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tjaaltonbryce: the versions_current list is party outdated.. for instance libpciaccess is already synced but it shows the old version08:18
bryceok08:22
brycehmm, the updated chroot definitely shows 0.10.3-1 as the right version08:28
tjaaltonstrange08:28
bryceis this just out of sync with the archive?08:28
bryceI did an apt-get update, and then:08:29
bryce(mychroot)root@blackwold:/# apt-cache madison libpciaccess08:29
brycelibpciaccess |   0.10.3-1 | http://se.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Sources08:29
brycelibpciaccess |   0.10.3-1 | http://se.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Sources08:29
brycelibpciaccess |   0.10.3-1 | http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main Sources08:29
brycelibpciaccess |   0.10.5-1 | http://ftp.us.debian.org experimental/main Sources08:29
tjaaltonhttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpciaccess08:29
bryceare you using se.?08:29
tjaaltonno, it's just that lp shows the new version as published08:30
bryceI'll change mirrors08:30
tjaaltonyeah, for some reason se. doesn't have that08:30
bryceok, with it set to archive.ubuntu.com:08:31
bryce(mychroot)root@blackwold:/# apt-cache madison libpciaccess08:31
brycelibpciaccess |   0.10.3-1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Sources08:31
brycelibpciaccess |   0.10.5-1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Sources08:31
brycelibpciaccess |   0.10.3-1 | http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main Sources08:31
brycelibpciaccess |   0.10.5-1 | http://ftp.us.debian.org experimental/main Sources08:31
tjaaltonyep08:31
bryceok, rerunning  cron.  Should be updated in a few minutes.08:32
tjaaltoncool, thanks08:32
brycehttp://www2.bryceharrington.org:8080/X/PkgList/versions_current.html updated08:35
tjaaltonlooks good08:35
bryceyep08:36
brycehey, would you be willing to make notes on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/PackageNotes about the packages to be merged?08:37
bryceI don't know if I'm going to have very much time to assist with merges, but if I do I'll follow directions on that page if they're there08:38
tjaaltonsure, what was the syntax again?08:39
brycehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/PackageNotes?action=recall&rev=34 shows an example08:39
tjaaltonah, ok08:39
brycebasically bullet, package-name, and comments08:39
brycetjaalton: oh btw, I've been putting some stuff into https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/xorg-server/xorg-pkg-tools lately08:42
bryceI put several xorg related scripts in there that might be useful08:43
brycethere are README.xx files for each script explaining what they do08:43
tjaaltonok, I'll have a look08:44
brycetormod's given me some good feedback08:45
brycetjaalton: dunno if I mentioned this already, but I spent last week visiting the OEM team, who are the guys that take care of making Ubuntu run on hardware that's shipped with Ubuntu pre-installed on it08:49
bryceit's rather stunning how many projects are under way with pre-installs.  Dell is of course the biggie, but there's a number of other companies too08:49
tjaaltonthat's nice to hear :)08:50
bryceyep.  It was nice to see that most of the Xorg issues they see are just weird corner cases, like issues relating to the Poulsbo driver, or multi-touch support, or similar unusualities.08:52
bryceit's interesting that almost all of these systems are based on Hardy08:53
* wgrant was able to discover some details about several nice private OEM projects on LP a couple of weeks ago.08:55
wgrantI too was surprised at how many there were, though I can't have found all of them.08:55
tjaaltonwgrant: an example?08:55
wgrantOne of them (the chelsea project) is a derivative for some FIC netbook, AFAICT.08:57
tjaaltonhum, havoc pennington working on it08:58
tjaaltonmeeting ->09:03
brycewgrant: wow, and that's one I hadn't heard about09:22
bryceobviously I can't say much on specifics, but the Ubuntu people there were extraordinarily overtaxed by the number of projects.  I'm a little worried that my time's going to be even more sucked up by that than previously 09:24
wgrantHopefully we'll be pleasantly surprised in the next year or so..09:31
brycejames_w: btw I've a question I wonder if you might know the answer to...19:51
james_whi bryce19:51
james_whow are you>?19:51
james_whow was Lex?19:52
brycejames_w: I'm doing good!  glad for the short week :-)19:52
bryceLex was better than I had expected it was going to be19:52
brycebut those guys have a huge workload.  Phear19:52
bryceanyway, I noticed there is a +maintained-packages page for teams, which looks pretty sweet19:52
james_wyeah, I was there the previous week.19:52
james_wthey were excited about you coming :-)19:52
brycehowever in looking at the -intel driver, it's maintained by ubuntu-dev, which seems to maintain most everything in ubuntu.  ;-)  And that page has too many packages to be of use19:53
brycejames_w: I was wondering if you knew how it is set which team maintains a given package, and if that can be changed?19:54
superm1bryce, isn't that set by debian/control?19:54
brycesuperm1: well that's what I'm wondering19:54
brycejames_w: heh, yeah they were enthusiastic on the day I arrived.  Took me by surprise...  yeah I've been putting a lot of time towards helping them on issues in recent months19:55
brycehttps://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/+maintained-packages   <-- I'd like this info to be available filtered to just X here --> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+maintained-packages19:56
james_wI think it is debian/control, but I can't say for sure19:57
james_wdo you just use the usual Maintainer: lines in debian/control for X packages?19:58
superm1bryce, even if that's not the way that controls what shows up on the page (debian/control), it would be worthwhile setting it's maintainer in debian/control to ubuntu-x-swat anyway i think. 19:58
brycejames_w: yep19:58
james_wyeah, as superm1 you may want to consider marking ubuntu-x-swat as the maintainer19:59
bryceok, maybe something to experiment with19:59
brycethanks guys19:59
brycepossibly I could reproduce that for X.org with some script.  Hmm.20:02
brycewow, this is cool:  http://package-import.canonical.com/loggerhead/x/xserver-xorg-video-intel/jaunty/changes20:09
tjaaltonI think I've already uploaded some package with ubuntu-x@ as the Maintainer20:47
tjaaltonhmm no, but xorg/xorg-server have it in git21:03
tjaaltonbesides, ubuntu-x != ubuntu-x-swat, so they probably won't show on the list21:03
superm1wgrant, when you uploaded gsd, it looks like the exact same version ended up in intrepid-proposed and jaunty release.  how did you do that?  two separate uploads, or ask an archive admin to pocket copy?22:25
superm1i ask because i was just going to upload the final resolution for that eject bug, and got confused on how you did that22:26
brycetjaalton: yeah ubuntu-x appears to be some random guy22:35
brycesuperm1: btw I've sent off another 5 bugs to AMD.  fglrx-installer is pretty thoroughly triaged now22:36
superm1bryce, great. so now just a matter of waiting for them to start fixing them :)22:36
brycesuperm1: indeed22:37
brycesuperm1: you might want to look into bug 291672, which seems to be a packaging issue22:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 291672 in fglrx-installer ""Proprietary Drivers" shows incorrect version if installed fglrx manually" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29167222:38
brycesuperm1: I almost wontfix'd it, but figured if there's a way to detect a non-stock install, it could be worth including.  Maybe tseliot could take a crack at it.22:39
bryceotherwise, if you think it's not worth doing, please go ahead and wontfix22:40
superm1that bug is unbelievably hard to comprehend22:40
bryceyep22:40
brycewhat I'm interpreting is that he downloaded fglrx off of AMD's site and installed it, and now finds that Jockey is not displaying the correct installed version22:41
superm1jockey doesn't show versions though...22:41
superm1i think that's right though.  the thing is the one on AMD's website didn't support intrepid anyway22:42
bryceok, I may have misinterpreted his explanation22:43
superm1yeah i think marking that won't fix is sane22:43
wgrantsuperm1: The archive admins can copy things between suites.23:05
superm1wgrant, yeah i just had a quick chat with cjwatson about it.  it was just because the archive wasn't properly opened yet23:06
superm1normal SRU rules apply now23:06
wgrantyep.23:07
wgrantsuperm1: Is this about your g-s-d patch that got committed overnight?23:24
superm1yeah23:24
superm1i've just gotten it tested and backported to 2.2423:24
superm1wgrant, ^23:28
wgrantsuperm1: I see they're about to release 2.24.1. I wonder if there's anything else we might want.23:31
superm1wgrant, you mean for an SRU?23:32
superm1is there a schedule posted for 2.24.1?, does it basically reflect trunk, or is 2.26 work already in trunk?23:33
wgrantsuperm1: It was branched ages ago and had some stuff (like my patch) backported.23:36
* wgrant checks logs for other interesting stuff.23:36
superm1wgrant, so i'm guessing my patch is only in trunk then.. should ask upstream to put it in 2.24.1?23:37
wgrantOh.23:37
wgrant2.24.1 was tagged literally 3 minutes ago.23:37
wgrantSo you're too late.23:37
superm1oh well23:38

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