[00:00] <musikgoat|main> hmw_: there you go :-)
[00:00] <syva> hey, for some reason mount.ntfs is running and eating up all my cpu, any ideas?
[00:00] <cheater_> Can someone please help me with my sound issue?
[00:00] <mattfletcher> temppy: yes i have
[00:00] <OzFalcon> EJ compile this http://www.sim.ul.pt/software/TclVI/downloads/TclVI-1.2-alpha2.tar.gz
[00:01] <musikgoat|main> cheater_: list what you've done so far
[00:01] <syva> i think it is azureus writing to my ntfs drive, but i havent seen mount.ntfs using this much cpu in the past
[00:01] <Dark_Wolf> temppy, http://pastebin.com/m5df69c54
[00:01] <OzFalcon> EJ, When i run make, States at the start that tcl.h can not be found.
[00:01] <kc8pxy> any ideas why find /boot/grub/stage1 returns (hd0,0), but setup (hd0,0) tells me that it's an "invalid device requested" ??
[00:02] <OzFalcon> EJ, I know it's on the system. Locate tcl.h indicates it's there.
[00:02] <temppy> Dark_Wolf: it looks like nm-applet is already running?
[00:02] <JohnnyPea> hello, can anybody advice me how can I install ubuntu/kubuntu on my Asus M51TR ?
[00:02] <mewshi_> hi ^-^
[00:02] <cheater_> musikgoat|main: I ran update manager and after the reboot no sound.
[00:02] <EJ> try this sudo apt-get install tcl8.3-dev
[00:02] <kc8pxy> JohnnyPea: are you having issues with the livecd?
[00:03] <EJ> OzFalcon: try this : sudo apt-get install tcl8.3-dev
[00:03] <JohnnyPea> kc8pxy actually I cannot boot livecd
[00:03] <Dark_Wolf> temppy, if it is, I can't get to it
[00:03] <kc8pxy> JohnnyPea:  how far does it get?
[00:03] <musikgoat|main> cheater_: does anything show MM in alsamixer?  run alsamixer -c 0
[00:03] <NoIdeaMan> need help
[00:03] <bushwacker> how do I get java for my firefox broswer?
[00:03] <temppy> Dark_Wolf: try killing it with pkill
[00:03] <Dark_Wolf> I have Network Configuration and Network Tools, but no network in the menu
[00:04] <bitmouse> Anybody know why a Ubuntu Command Line install isn't using my mouse once I install xorg and openbox, once I get a mouse to move around it doesn't work
[00:04] <JohnnyPea> kc8pxy I tried to switch off the ACPI and it didnt load the graphic interface
[00:04] <cheater_> musikgoat|main: I've just started reading up on alsa, havn't ran that. Will do now
[00:04] <OzFalcon> I have the dev packages of both 8.4 and 8.5. Would I really need to add 8.3 to the mix?
[00:04] <snuitje> bitmouse: sudo apt-get install gpm
[00:04] <OzFalcon> cant do any harm I spose
[00:04] <bitmouse> snuitje: roger
[00:05] <kc8pxy> JohnnyPea:  how far did it get before you tried acpi?
[00:05] <bitmouse> is there a difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[00:05] <EJ> OzFalcon : oh .... well when i did a basic install of tcl (eggdrop stuff :D) it made me install that dev in order to stop giving me a similar error
[00:05] <cheater_> musikgoat|main: Everything seems normal. What should I be looking for? everything is all turned up
[00:05] <JohnnyPea> kc8pxy only the livecd menu a after that when I select to load it shows "_" and freezed
[00:06] <mattfletcher> temppy: were you suggesting there was something relevant in the release notes? i can see stuff about different intel cards, but not mine
[00:06] <OzFalcon> EJ, Trying it for the sake of it
[00:06] <musikgoat|main> cheater_: sometimes PCM is muted, which would stop sound
[00:06] <kc8pxy> JohnnyPea:  tried the cd checker, or the memtest?
[00:06] <OzFalcon> hmm
[00:06] <cheater_> musikgoat|main: Yup, understand. Anything eles you can recommend?
[00:06] <EJ> OzFalcon: kk
[00:06] <temppy> mattfletcher: well, there is a new xorg in intrepid, and several graphics drivers don't work.  They were listed in the release notes
[00:07] <musikgoat|main> cheater_: i'd ask in #alsa, they helped me out in troubleshooting
[00:07] <JohnnyPea> kc8pxy I tried different CDs and distros and my PC is all right
[00:07] <JohnnyPea> kc8pxy it is always the same
[00:08]  * Mustinet hi all
[00:08] <kc8pxy> JohnnyPea:  did the livecd checker util pass the cd?
[00:08] <temppy> mattfletcher: other than that, I don't know
[00:08] <JohnnyPea> kc8pxy nope
[00:08] <kc8pxy> JohnnyPea:  because you didn't run it,  or the cd failed?
[00:09] <JohnnyPea> kc8pxy I didnt run it
[00:09] <OzFalcon> EJ, No difference. :-(
[00:09] <kc8pxy> JohnnyPea:  do that.. it could be a bad ubuntu cd burn.
[00:10] <EJ> OzFalcon:  :-(
[00:10] <MrCollins> Is there a good howto on doing ntfs file system repairs such as a linux 'chkdsk'?
[00:10] <JohnnyPea> kc8pxy I told you I used different CDs different versions, I think it is something with the ACPI issue
[00:10] <mattfletcher> temppy: i see, thanks. i can't see anything in the notes, so i assume that isn't my problem. is there something else i can run that will give a more meaningful error?
[00:10] <OzFalcon> EJ, It still says can not find tcl.h
[00:11] <snuitje> ozfalcon: add its directory to the include path
[00:11] <Gizmo77> join #ubuntu
[00:11] <kc8pxy> JohnnyPea: why do you think that?
[00:12] <Gizmo77> hello
[00:12] <OzFalcon> snuitje, That sounds like what I need to do.
[00:12] <Gizmo77> can anone help me?
[00:12] <snuitje> OzFalcon: like so: -I/usr/include/tcl8.3
[00:12] <Keroz> hola alguien que me pueda ayudar con amsn?
[00:12] <OzFalcon> snuitje, ?
[00:12] <snuitje> edit the makefile, you'll see
[00:12] <OzFalcon> -I
[00:12] <Gizmo77> i have a laptop and ubuntu 8.10 install on this
[00:12] <OzFalcon> ok
[00:12] <OzFalcon> ah ok
[00:12] <OzFalcon> editing
[00:13] <Gizmo77> the problem is whith gnome power manegament
[00:13] <MrCollins> in ubuntu how do I install ntfsprogs?
[00:13] <Gizmo77> always is 0,0%
[00:13] <MrCollins> apt-get ntfsprogs   ?
[00:13] <JohnnyPea> kc8pxy because when I switch the ACPI off I can get to command line
[00:14] <OzFalcon> snuitje, Great.
[00:14] <Gizmo77> detect wn conect and disconect but alwais batery capacity is 0,0%
[00:14] <JohnnyPea> kc8pxy and everybody is mentioning this one
[00:14] <kc8pxy> JohnnyPea:  ok,   8.10 or 8.04 ?
[00:14] <JohnnyPea> kc8pxy both
[00:14] <OzFalcon> snuitje, Now it asks usb.h   ......................... Edit again.
[00:14] <snuitje> it shouldn't ask for usb.h, it's in /usr/include
[00:14] <Gizmo77> in windows run ok
[00:14] <kc8pxy> JohnnyPea:  what do you mean you can't get to the graphical?
[00:15] <Gizmo77> the batery is not the problem
[00:15] <snuitje> you might be missing a package?
[00:15] <kc8pxy> JohnnyPea:  what happens if you startx when you get to the CLI?
[00:15] <OzFalcon> snuitje, error: tclvi_usb.h:24:17: error: usb.h: No such file or directory
[00:15] <OzFalcon> snuitje, My Gaff.
[00:16] <OzFalcon> snuitje, But still - It should find tclvi_usb.h
[00:16] <snuitje> it did
[00:16] <Gizmo77> can anyone help me?
[00:16] <OzFalcon> ok, Found tclvi_usb. But not usb.h
[00:16] <OzFalcon> But usb.h is in kernel headers...
[00:16] <JohnnyPea> kc8pxy cannot be loaded or something like that
[00:17] <snuitje> sudo apt-get install libusb-dev
[00:17] <perillux> what is the best email service to use in combination with evolution or thunderbird?  I use GMail right now, but it doesn't allow me to get the mail in my spam, so i have to still manually log in every once in a while.  Just wondering if yahoo, for example, or some other service will give 100% access to all mail to evolution or thunderbird.
[00:17] <kc8pxy> JohnnyPea:  that response is nottt very useful for diagnoztics.
[00:17] <Gizmo77> chanel ubuntu in spanish please?
[00:17] <snuitje> ./join #ubuntu-es (guessing)
[00:18] <kc8pxy> JohnnyPea:  what specific component does it say cannot be loaded?
[00:19] <OzFalcon> snuitje, Getting there.
[00:19] <JohnnyPea> kc8pxy I really dont know right know because I am newbie to *nix systems
[00:19] <MrCollins> perillux: why would you want the mail in your spam?
[00:19] <kc8pxy> JohnnyPea: understood.  it should spout you a reson it died.  i need the specific error to help further the diagnosis.
[00:19] <OzFalcon> snuitje, Thanks for your help. Got it going further. Now it complians about something else.
[00:20] <OzFalcon> snuitje, I have no time to continue now. Will have to do tomorrow.
[00:20] <snuitje> OzFalcon: yw, shoot
[00:20] <kc8pxy> JohnnyPea:  please duplicate the error, if neccessary.
[00:20] <OzFalcon> snuitje, Thanks again for your help.
[00:20] <perillux> MrCollins: I actually don't get much spam.  one time there was even something of importance to me in there, and considering I rarely get spam, it doesn't seem like an important feature to filter it.
[00:20] <Dark_Wolf> Anyone have any idea why the network option is missing from System > Administration?
[00:21] <OzFalcon> snuitje, Error for interest is: make: *** No rule to make target `parport.o', needed by `libtclvi.so'.  Stop.
[00:21] <ng0n> test
[00:22] <MrCollins> thats why they have the spam filter in there.... my suggestion would be to check your Spam folder daily and flag any messages you want 'Not Spam' that way the next time the filter sees a message like that it will bring it into Inbox
[00:22] <ng0n> testing portableaps
[00:22] <snuitje> OzFalcon: %-/ oh noes, well try later
[00:22] <ercomax> ciao
[00:22] <OzFalcon> snuitje, Thanks for your help
[00:23] <snuitje> np
[00:23] <JohnnyPea> kc8pxy OK thank you for your help anyway I will try to find out
[00:23] <smartguyz> hello
[00:23] <kc8pxy> gar.
[00:24] <kc8pxy> to fix the grub from a amd64 machine, i NEED tha amd64 livecd,  yes?
[00:25] <demonspork> Using Ubuntu 7.10 with compiz-fusion, while using TwinView for multiple displays, when I fullscreen VLC for a movie, it has a border, just 6 or 7 pixels wide, where the desktop background is visible. how do I get rid of this border
[00:26] <macjason0607> guys i have a question .. i just put a flash drive in and i opened gparted .. i don't know witch one it is
[00:26] <Dark_Wolf> Anyone have any idea why the network option is missing from System > Administration? I need it to enable my modem, but it's just not there. I'm in Intrepid.
[00:26] <Dark_Wolf> macjason0607, which is your hard drive?
[00:26] <snuitje> macjason0607: try dmesg|tail
[00:27] <cfedde> any hints on configuring fglx on a 1366x768 rgb tv?  the video is too wide.  Ideas?
[00:27] <macjason0607> snuitje, that shows only network setuff
[00:28] <MrCollins> how do i search for apt-get packages?
[00:28] <MrCollins> is it sudo apt-get search ntfs*
[00:28] <MrCollins> ?
[00:28] <musikgoat|main> MrCollins: apt-cache search or aptitude search
[00:28] <nvti> MrCollins: apt-cache search
[00:28] <ardchoille> MrCollins: don't need sudo for apt-cache search
[00:28] <ajhtwolf> Hey i am trying to dual boot xpand vista, I have xp installed on 0,5 and vista installed on 0,6 partitions, i set the grub boot options to be root (0,5) makeactive chanloader+1 but when i try and select it says invalid device
[00:29] <MrCollins> ok how do I install the package i want?
[00:29] <MrCollins> sudo apt-get -i *pkg*?
[00:29] <LLMP> does anyone know how i could change my resolution and use something else instead of 1024x768
[00:29] <snuitje> macjason0607: then run mount
[00:29] <macjason0607> /dev/sdc1 on /media/EXTRA ROOM type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077)
[00:29] <macjason0607> thats the one i want to format
[00:29] <snuitje> sdc it is
[00:30] <macjason0607> snewp, it dosen't show up in gparted
[00:30] <macjason0607> so i can't format it
[00:30] <snuitje> umount it first
[00:30] <macjason0607> then what ?
[00:30] <snuitje> then gparted should work
[00:31] <macjason0607> snuitje, it dosen't show in gparted
[00:31] <MrCollins> I do apt-get -y ntfstools and i keep getting invalid operation
[00:31] <MrCollins> what am I doing wrong?
[00:31] <macjason0607> /dev/sdc1
[00:31] <nintendork32> i have LILO or whatever that bootloader is installed on the same partition as ubuntu so i have to use the bootmenu to boot from the ubuntu drive. how can i uninstall LILO and install GRUB on the MBR?
[00:31] <tritium> MrCollins: forgetting to use "install"
[00:31] <MrCollins> oh
[00:31] <MrCollins> tritium:  :p
[00:31] <MrCollins> :)
[00:31] <clinthexa2> how do i acces a  NFS sever from ubuntu
[00:31] <tritium> MrCollins: also, the -y switch is rather dangerour.  Please don't use that.
[00:31] <tritium> dangerous, even
[00:31] <clinthexa2> the server is runinng a BSD 7.0
[00:31] <MrCollins> thanks.... gotcha on that tritium
[00:31] <macjason0607> snuitje, did you get that ? /dev/sdc1 dosen't show up
[00:31] <Dark_Wolf> Again, I repeat, because nobody looks up. :P Anyone have any idea why the network option is missing from System > Administration? I need it to enable my modem, but it's just not there. I'm in Intrepid.
[00:32] <tritium> !nfs | clinthexa2
[00:32] <clinthexa2> :I yes tritium
[00:32] <snuitje> macjason0607: try the selector in the upper right
[00:32] <macjason0607> nope
[00:32] <clinthexa2> tring to access BSD 7.0 , it as configures as a network files server
[00:32] <macjason0607> only shows my windows partition and my ubuntu partition snuitje
[00:32] <musikgoat|main> Dark_Wolf: system -> pref -> network config
[00:33] <snuitje> ic
[00:33] <MrCollins> how do i do a ubuntu version check in terminal
[00:33] <macjason0607> actually found it
[00:33] <tritium> MrCollins: lsb_release -a
[00:33] <MrCollins> ok
[00:33] <MrCollins> thanks you again tritium
[00:33] <tritium> Dark_Wolf: please verify that gnome-system-tools is installed (apt-cache policy gnome-system-tools)
[00:34] <Dark_Wolf> tritium, it's installed
[00:34] <tritium> Dark_Wolf: if it is, please check your menu settings in System -> Preferences -> Main Menu
[00:34] <musikgoat|main> tritium: network was moved from admin to pref
[00:34] <musikgoat|main> Dark_Wolf: ^^
[00:34] <tritium> musikgoat|main: indeed, thanks
[00:34] <Dark_Wolf> so what am I looking for?
[00:35] <Dark_Wolf> I see network configuration
[00:35] <tritium> musikgoat|main: which is what I have listed above
[00:35] <Dark_Wolf> but not network
[00:35] <nintendork32> i have LILO or whatever that bootloader is installed on the same partition as ubuntu so i have to use the bootmenu to boot from the ubuntu drive. how can i uninstall LILO and install GRUB on the MBR?
[00:35] <musikgoat|main> missed that
[00:35] <smartguyz> need help setting up wireshark in UBUNTU wifi mode???
[00:36] <wos> !copy
[00:36] <tritium> Dark_Wolf: that's what you'd be looking for.
[00:36] <wos> !copying
[00:36] <tritium> wos: please investigate the bot in private
[00:37] <Dark_Wolf> tritium,  Network Configuration is not what I need
[00:37] <wos> how do yo u copy a file from one directory to another, anyone?
[00:37] <jeebster> With 8.10, does the network manager app need "sudo" -like unlocking any more like in 8.04? As I see it kind of doesn't need unlocking any more.
[00:37] <Dark_Wolf> I need Network
[00:37] <zsquareplusc> wos: cp
[00:37] <Dark_Wolf> tritium, network configuration does not support modems
[00:37] <wos> cp what
[00:38] <Dark_Wolf> wos: cp oldfile newfile
[00:38] <Dark_Wolf> in the terminal
[00:38] <wos> thanks
[00:38] <zsquareplusc> wos: try "man cp" ;-)
[00:38] <wos> whats man cp?
[00:38] <zsquareplusc> try..
[00:38] <hmw_> i have problems with my voodoo banshee. added Section Device, Driver tdfx (tried vesa, too) - busid verified, the card has worked with my previous ubuntu setup, but i lost the xorg.conf. the card doesnt even initialize, and i got no error in xorg.log
[00:38] <wos> !man cp
[00:39] <Dark_Wolf> wos: man cp opens the manual for cp in the terminal
[00:39] <zsquareplusc> wos: the "man" command shows man pages. almost all commands you can start have a man page.. run it in the shell/terminal on your PC
[00:39] <ganet> Would someone mind reading this?  No one replied to my post...
[00:39] <ganet> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=991330
[00:40] <wos> isnt that awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:40] <ganet> Thanks
[00:40] <EJ> i messed up with my mythtv installation and changed the mysql database password upon trying to connect mythtv to the database ... how can i fix this ? Would simply reinstalling the mythtv-database in Synaptic resolve this ?
[00:40] <zsquareplusc> allways links.. could you also add a keyword/topic?
[00:40] <ganet> it's about partitioning
[00:40] <LLMP> does anyone know how i could change my resolution and use something else instead of 1024x768
[00:40] <Dark_Wolf> tritium?
[00:40] <tritium> Dark_Wolf: yes?
[00:41] <OzFalcon> EJ, May not get rid of it unless you select Complete removeal.
[00:41] <Dark_Wolf> LLMP, System > Preferences > Resolution
[00:41] <Guest25684> hi to everyone i have a problem i cant access to the internet because the system dont recognize aymore the ethernet and the wifi i dont know why
[00:41] <zsquareplusc> ganet: shrinking ubuntu for redhat? hm... should i help there ;-)
[00:41] <LLMP> i only have one option though
[00:41] <Dark_Wolf> LLMP, it's an X issue then
[00:41] <l3d> If I am using 8.10 is this where I would ask a question for help?
[00:41] <LLMP> and that is 1078x786
[00:41] <LLMP> meaning
[00:41] <Dark_Wolf> tritium, you have not responded. I can't use  Network Configuration
[00:41] <ganet> I know, I'm a traitor....
[00:41] <ganet> but I'm keeping ubuntu :)
[00:41] <tritium> Dark_Wolf: I have no other advice.  Sorry.
[00:42] <LLMP> Dark Wolf what is a X issue
[00:42] <EJ> OzFalcon: just for the mythtv-database thought correct ? or do i need to completley remove all the mythtv pkgs ?
[00:42] <Dark_Wolf> LLMP, you'll have to ask about reconfiguring X
[00:42] <Dark_Wolf> I don't have much experience there
[00:42] <LLMP> who know how to do reconfiguring X?
[00:42] <zsquareplusc> ganet: why not use gparted from the live cd? it would allow you to resize with a gui tool. and yes, the warning is irrelevant. we dont use lilo and grub can cope with it
[00:43] <snuitje> sudo apt-get install read-edid
[00:43] <snuitje> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[00:43] <ganet> ok, would that be on both the ubuntu live cd and the red hat live cd?
[00:43] <zsquareplusc> ganet: and you can share the swap partition. unless you plan to hibernate one system to run the other.
[00:43] <antono> hi there!
[00:43] <antono> is there any possibility to make 2 keyboard layouts as primmary and third as additional
[00:43] <antono> i have english + russian + esperanto
[00:43] <antono> i would like to have esperanto as additional layout and switch to it with alt key and only when primary layout is switched to english
[00:43] <FloodBot1> antono: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:44] <meoblast001> how do you get a Lexicon Omega usb device work with ALSA?... my dad needs that to work if he's ever going to consider booting his Ubuntu parition ever again
[00:44] <ganet> ﻿zsquareplusc: no, I don't plan on doing that
[00:45] <ganet> but sharing the swap partition: meaning I could resize it to make it larger, then put all my personal files there?  and then I could access them from both OSs?
[00:45] <nintendork32> i have LILO or whatever that bootloader is installed on the same partition as ubuntu so i have to use the bootmenu to boot from the ubuntu drive. how can i uninstall LILO and install GRUB on the MBR?
[00:46] <zsquareplusc> ganet: swap is for memory. your /home could be on a separate partition and shared. however some software could have troubles if you run different versions (like the configuration file format has changed)
[00:46] <pen> nintendork32: why did you install LILO at the first place?
[00:47] <nintendork32> pen: because gnome wouldnt install on the server disk
[00:47] <zsquareplusc> ?
[00:47] <ganet> ok
[00:47] <ganet> thanks
[00:47] <pen> nintendork32: what did you mean by that?
[00:47] <GodfatherofEire> Does anybody know of a myspell package for Latin?
[00:47] <pen> nintendork32: gnome can't be installed?
[00:47] <smartguyz> unable to configure capture interface
[00:47] <lamy> hi there
[00:48] <ganet> I'll use the live CD as you recommended, wish me luck
[00:48] <lamy> can we run asp code in ubuntu server?
[00:48] <snuitje> lamy: be specific please
[00:48] <smartguyz> please message me if you can help me...
[00:49] <nintendork32> pen: I have had experience with gnome not installing without the easy install from a live disk so it couldnt install
[00:49] <lamy> snuitje: it is a web application writen in asp with vb script
[00:49] <snuitje> asp or asp.net?
[00:49] <zsquareplusc> smartguyz: first add more detail. is your webcam not working? what application are you using and is the cam listed in the output of dmesg
[00:49] <temppy> smartguyz: wireshark?  run it as root
[00:49] <meoblast001> how do you get a Lexicon Omega usb device work with ALSA?... my dad needs that to work if he's ever going to consider booting his Ubuntu parition ever again
[00:49] <lamy> sn uitje:  i specifically mention asp NOT ASP.NET
[00:50] <pen> nintendork32: you mean your machine can't install with live cd? hm...
[00:50] <dj_segfault> Hey I just installed 8.10 this weekend on my Dell Latitude D820, replacing 8.0.4.  when I first installed it, sound worked fine.  But for some reason today, all sound comes out as little clicks and scratches.  I see that snd_hda_intel is loaded, which is the right driver.  Any clues or debugging techniques?  Thanks.
[00:50] <snuitje> then probably not
[00:50] <nintendork32> pen: no i installed server
[00:50] <lamy> snuitje: probably? what does that mean
[00:50] <nintendork32> pen: server doesnt have live cd because it doesnt come with a gui and why would someone want to play around with a shell?
[00:50] <smartguyz> I have it installed via add applications
[00:50] <hmw_> uhm... where is my Xorg log? i thought it should be in /var/log ?
[00:51] <nintendork32> pen: i know about the antivirus crap, thats not the problem
[00:51] <pen> nintendork32: nvm, I think I misunderstood your situation. I got it
[00:51] <Dark_Wolf> Anyone have any idea why the network option is missing from System > Administration? I need it to enable my modem, but it's just not there. I'm in Intrepid.
[00:51] <musikgoat|main> hmw_: it is
[00:51] <pen> nintendork32: so you install the server cd right?
[00:51] <dj_segfault> hmw_: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:51] <nintendork32> pen: correct but i have the desktop live cd
[00:51] <hmw_> i restart gdm, but this file doesnt get created
[00:52] <smartguyz> do I have to log in as administrator to run wireshark...
[00:52] <nintendork32> too
[00:52] <pen> nintendork32: but you installed the server cd
[00:52] <temppy> Dark_Wolf: are you trying to use network manager?  I don't have a network thing in admin either
[00:52] <dj_segfault> Dark_Wolf:Doesn't Network Manager manage modems?
[00:52] <aquelarre> join #costarica
[00:52] <Dark_Wolf> temppy, yes
[00:52] <musikgoat|main> smartguyz: run it with gksudo
[00:52] <pen> nintendork32: and why did you install LILO?
[00:52] <temppy> Dark_Wolf: network manager is under Preferences
[00:52] <aquelarre> =o/
[00:52] <Dark_Wolf> not for me
[00:52] <smartguyz> gksudo
[00:53] <nintendork32> pen; yes but i installed gnome on my server and added a fat32 partition with the desktop live cd
[00:53] <smartguyz> ??
[00:53] <Dark_Wolf> I only have "Network Configuration"
[00:53] <snuitje> lamy: maybe vbscript can be compiled under wine, but it'll be tricky
[00:53] <nintendork32> pen: because Grub wouldnt install
[00:53] <snuitje> there's no mod_vbscript afaik -_-
[00:53] <temppy> smartguyz: Applications > Internet > Wireshark (run as root)
[00:53] <nintendork32> pen: ive had problems with grub when not using the live cd
[00:53] <musikgoat|main> smartguyz: gksudo wireshark  will run the prog with privileges
[00:53] <temppy> Dark_Wolf: thats network manager
[00:54] <jac0b> has anyone found a solution for fglrx suspend & hibernation
[00:54] <pen> nintendork32: did you google? there are millions of guides telling you how to install grub using a terminal
[00:54] <Dark_Wolf> temppy, I can't use my modem through that, though
[00:54] <nintendork32> pen: i always got error 15 file not found
[00:54] <Dark_Wolf> temppy, and there is no connections tab or unlock button
[00:54] <mirza__> Is it possible to run a OSX application on Linux?
[00:54] <nintendork32> pen: i need to uninstall lilo first
[00:55] <pen> nintendork32: there must be ways to uninstall LILO
[00:55] <pen> nintendork32: then you can install grub
[00:55] <nintendork32> pen: just an fyi lilo isnt on MBR
[00:56] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32, pen, just install grub again. update-grub should work unless your root partition has a different name now
[00:56] <zero__> I have a compaq presario c301nr and i cant get the wireless to work
[00:57] <Stargazer> I need help installing ubuntu-eee to my Asus Eee PC 900a via Flash Drive.
[00:57] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, LILO isnt on the MBR
[00:57] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, it's on sdb
[00:58] <temppy> Dark_Wolf: sudo apt-get install gnome-network-admin
[00:58] <zsquareplusc> that's alo an MBR ;-)
[00:58] <p4_> sorry to be a pratt, but does anyone know how to get Transmission to dock up the top in ibex like it used to?
[00:58] <p4_> before ibex...
[00:58] <musikgoat|main> p4_: its in the settings, i had the same trouble
[00:58] <p4_> ahh thanks
[00:58] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: so you want to install grub on sdb. and where should the config file for grub be? on a partition on sdbX?
[00:58] <zero__> can anyone help me get my broadcom wireless to work?
[00:58] <l3d> If I am using 8.10 is this where I would ask a question for help?
[00:58] <p4_> i had a look couldn't see anything, i'll check again
[00:59] <p4_> you mean the Transmission settings?
[00:59] <zsquareplusc> l3d: yes
[00:59] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, no i want to remove LILO and install grub on the MBR
[00:59] <musikgoat|main> p4_: view -> check tray icon
[00:59] <musikgoat|main> p4_: sorry
[00:59] <Dark_Wolf> temppy, I can't use apt, since I have no internet connection
[00:59] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: there is no  "uninstall". just overwrite the boot block with the new loader
[00:59] <p4_> musikgoat, awesome thanks alot mate!!
[00:59] <musikgoat|main> p4_: yw
[01:00] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, NO i want to REMOVE LILO from sdb and put on grub on MBR, to different drives
[01:00] <pen> nintendork32: btw, did you have any bootloader in MBR?
[01:00] <pen> nintendork32: if not then overwrite LILO with grub
[01:00] <nintendork32> pen: yeah the windows one
[01:00] <snuitje> Dark_Wolf: you could use apt-zip
[01:00] <nintendork32> pen: i dont want grub on sdb
[01:00] <snuitje> synaptic supports it
[01:00] <nintendork32> i want no bootloader on sdb but have grub on the MBR
[01:01] <mirza__> Hey guys, whats a good FLV video viewer for Ubuntu?
[01:01] <pen> nintendork32: I remember there is a way to clear the thing
[01:01] <musikgoat|main> Dark_Wolf: I would check whats needed from the apt-get -d install application  command, then download those deb's from the repo on the machine you have internet with
[01:01] <nintendork32> pen: im not completely wiping sdb as thats where ubuntu is, i just want to remove LILO
[01:01] <snuitje> totem should work, vlc should work, maybe xine
[01:01] <musikgoat|main> Dark_Wolf: and drop the needed deb's in /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:02] <mirza__> snuitje: thanks!
[01:02] <l3d> ok well then here it goes I use some kde apps even tho I am using gnome and would like the theme for those apps to have a black bg   and green font. Now before the upgrade I would install kcontrol to set this and then remove the package and the settings would still stay intacted but for some odd reason kcontrol isnt listed in synaptic . So is there another way to do what I need to?
[01:02] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: why do you care about that boot loader? just dont boot from that drive. there is no real way to have no bootloader.
[01:02] <snuitje> musikgoat|main: thats apt-zip's job -_-
[01:02] <pen> nintendork32: I know what you want
[01:02] <pen> nintendork32: I am searching
[01:02] <Dark_Wolf> musikgoat|main, it says that package doesn't exist
[01:02] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc: i want to remove LILO from sdb and have GRUB on the MBR
[01:03] <musikgoat|main> Dark_Wolf: what were you suggested to install?
[01:03] <cpl> hello
[01:03] <musikgoat|main> Dark_Wolf: is this for dial-up?
[01:03] <Dark_Wolf> yeah
[01:03] <zsquareplusc> l3d: i have a qt settings in system -> prefs. isn't one there for you too?
[01:03] <Dark_Wolf> and it says that gnome-network-admin was not found
[01:03] <l3d> let me look
[01:04] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: i give up.
[01:04] <Failtacular> hello?
[01:04] <bayonet> hi
[01:05] <zetheroo> one of my clients upgraded from Gutsy to Hardy and lost his sound ... he has the 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) .... I need to help him fix the issue without having to reformat and start from scratch ... please help
[01:05] <Failtacular> Whenever I try to burn a disc, no matter what the program, it says it can't access the recorder. What does that mean, and how can I fix it?
[01:05] <pen> nintendork32: maybe use dd
[01:05] <pen> nintendork32: let me think
[01:05] <p4_> Well, i'm off dudes. Thanks for the help and good luck with your systems.
[01:05] <nintendork32> pen: dd?
[01:06] <dj_segfault>  zetheroo: Did he lose sound altogether, or are there clicks and pops?  That's happening to me.
[01:06] <pen> nintendork32: !dd
[01:06] <nintendork32> !dd
[01:06] <pen> !dd
[01:06] <zetheroo> dj_segfault: you using Hardy?
[01:06] <nintendork32> :(
[01:06] <pen> nintendork32: convert of copy a file
[01:06] <pen> nintendork32: I use man dd in my terminal
[01:06] <nintendork32> pen: what file?
[01:06] <panfist> could somebody please show me a usage example of the command "screen -X [cmd]" ...  i am trying to do "screen -X rtorrent" and I get no feedback from the command, and when i attach to the session it's like nothing happened.
[01:07] <dj_segfault>  zetheroo: Ibex, but I don't know whether it's release-specific or not
[01:07] <pen> nintendork32: maybe write 0s to the first 512 bytes of the partition?
[01:07] <zetheroo> dj_segfault: he gets this message:  The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured.
[01:07] <zetheroo> You can remove the volume control from the panel by right-clicking the speaker icon on the panel and selecting "Remove From Panel" from the menu.
[01:07] <pen> nintendork32: I don't know if it's a safe option
[01:07] <l3d> ok I do have it but it doesnt work on the apps they dont change color
[01:07] <Failtacular> Whenever I try to burn a disc, no matter what the program, it says it can't access the recorder. What does that mean, and how can I fix it?
[01:07] <nintendork32> pen: is that where LILO is and will it still boot?
[01:07] <zetheroo> dj_segfault: and he has no sound at all ...
[01:07] <Failtacular> Whenever I try to burn a disc, no matter what the program, it says it can't access the recorder. What does that mean, and how can I fix it?
[01:07] <nintendork32> pan: no i wont do that
[01:07] <dj_segfault> zetheroo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[01:07] <zetheroo> dj_segfault: could this be an issue with alsa ... and he just needs to reinstall it?
[01:07] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32, pen, now what. write zeros over the boot loader? just dont start at the wrong offset or your partition table is toast. but as i tried to explain earier. it pointless to remove a bootloder. just install the bootloader of your choice on the device taht the BIOS really boots
[01:08] <pen> nintendork32: it will boot the loader in MBR first definitely
[01:08] <astor> can someone help me to get the unscaled fonts first in the list printed by xlsfonts?
[01:08] <Failtacular> Whenever I try to burn a disc, no matter what the program, it says it can't access the recorder. What does that mean, and how can I fix it?
[01:08] <Failtacular> Whenever I try to burn a disc, no matter what the program, it says it can't access the recorder. What does that mean, and how can I fix it?
[01:09] <astor> alternatively, how do I check whether the X server uses xfs?
[01:09] <hmw_> it says "Softbooting the card via int10" in xorg.log, but the card doesnt boot (voodoo banshee). There is no error in the xorg log, the screen just stays black and i cant switch to console anymore (ssh in works). shouldnt the cards bios boot when the int10 signal comes??
[01:09] <Failtacular> hello?
[01:09] <travis_> hello i have installed apache and i get a permission denied error while accesing to an alias
[01:09] <zsquareplusc> Failtacular: no one there ;-)
[01:09] <dj_segfault> Failtacular: (1) Try running the program using sudo  (2) stop repeating your question every 10 seconds.
[01:09] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, then it will boot GRUB then if i choose linux it will boot LILO
[01:09] <kevin7> hi?
[01:09] <travis_> can anyone help
[01:09] <travis_> ?
[01:09] <zetheroo> dj_segfault: thanks for the link ... looking at it now ...
[01:09] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, i dont want that
[01:09] <kevin7> does any1 know how to install kdenlive? =w=
[01:09] <snuitje> astor: maybe with xfsinfo?
[01:10] <travis_> apache anyone?
[01:10] <Failtacular> dj_segfault: Well, no one responds, at least.
[01:10] <travis_> You don't have permission to access /canal/ on this server.
[01:10] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: then edit your grubs configuration to boot your linux directly instead of chainloading sdb's bootloader
[01:10] <Dark_Wolf> Anyone have any idea why the network option is missing from System > Administration? I need it to enable my modem, but it's just not there. I'm in Intrepid. I can't use the "Network Configuration" option, because it does not support dialup.
[01:10] <travis_> the alias is working
[01:10] <Failtacular> dj_segfault: I mean, a normal human being would expect a response.
[01:10] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, how would i do that?
[01:11] <travis_> but i cant access to files via browser
[01:11] <travis_> how do i change it?
[01:11] <kevin7> can some1 help? ._.
[01:11] <travis_> apache is 2.2.9 version
[01:11] <zsquareplusc> Dark_Wolf: why are you complaining about network manager not where it used to be, instead of asking how to set up a modem (whichs seems to be what you really want...)
[01:11] <Failtacular> dj_segfault: That's not too high an expectation, right?
[01:11] <dj_segfault> Failtacular: A normal human being would not expect rude/annoying behavior when asking for free help from volunteers.
[01:11] <astor> snuitje: thanks, that's a first step I guess...
[01:11] <carnage_> anyone know how to get the internal mic working on new thinkpads?
[01:12] <kevin7> can any1 help me?
[01:12] <mirza__> does anybody here use Songbird?
[01:12] <Failtacular> dj_segfault: You're right, I wouldn't.
[01:12] <nintendork32> kevin7, patience
[01:12] <Dekkard> i tried it.. to fat for my machine
[01:12] <Dark_Wolf> zsquareplusc, I'm following instructions on the website for connecting with a modem on Intrepid, but it doesn't work
[01:12] <snuitje> mirza__: what's the problem?
[01:12] <kevin7> how do i install kdenlive?? ._.
[01:13] <mirza__> There is no problem, its just that I want to use the new nightly build, (v1.00), but I get a tar.gz file when I download it. I tried to run the Songbird file, but it never opens. Is there something i need to do?
[01:13] <zsquareplusc> Dark_Wolf: are the instructions for intrepid. and maybe a package is missing. it may be that the network manger hides modem settings if ppp is not installed or the like
[01:13] <snuitje> kevin7: use adept
[01:14] <Dark_Wolf> zsquareplusc, it says to go to System > Administration > Network
[01:14] <Dark_Wolf> that is unavailable
[01:14] <snuitje> mirza__: lemme c...
[01:14] <mirza__> ok, thanks.
[01:14] <kevin7> whats abept? ._.
[01:14] <Dark_Wolf> and the other networking options do not have the interface described
[01:14] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, how would i configure GRUB to do that?
[01:14] <Dekkard> mirza__,  you need to extract the songbird file first, you doing that?
[01:14] <zsquareplusc> Dark_Wolf: so it looks the instructions are for hardy and pevious
[01:14] <Dekkard> files
[01:14] <Dark_Wolf> it was under intrepid
[01:14] <mirza__> yes, I am.
[01:14] <nintendork32> !adept | kevin7
[01:14] <Dekkard> ok
[01:15] <maraxush> hey
[01:15] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: there is a /boot/grub/menu.lst that is loaded from one of the paritions. edit that one
[01:15] <maraxush> i need some help
[01:15] <Dark_Wolf> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/internet/C/modem-connect.html
[01:15] <maraxush> :)
[01:15] <Dekkard> i cant remember which file it is.. gut one shell is a shell script in the extracted archive.. under nautilus it should have the option to excecute
[01:15] <maraxush> i have HDA audio in my laptop
[01:15] <meoblast001> why does my clipboard close when the program that something was copied from closes? very annoying
[01:15] <Dekkard> if that doesnt work try opening it from a console
[01:15] <Dark_Wolf> zsquareplusc, do you have any idea on how to do it now, then?
[01:15] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc: if its GRUB is on the MBR where would that file be?
[01:15] <mirza__> thanks Dekkard. Ill try that.
[01:16] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc: where would it be?
[01:17] <Thirtysixway> ;x
[01:17] <zsquareplusc> Dark_Wolf: looks like a documentation bug..
[01:17] <Dark_Wolf> then do you have any idea on how to set up the modem?
[01:17] <PowhatanBob> How do i add something to my path?  Trying to get django set up
[01:17] <sachael> how do I change the program that is used as the default file manager?
[01:18] <snuitje> mirza__: ooh yeah running latest songbird nightly build now ^_^
[01:18] <meoblast001> my dad's going to give up on Ubuntu if i cant get his Lexicon Omega to work or his Broadcom BCM 4306 to run at full speed.... please give me ideas... cant figure out how to make it work
[01:18] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: thats a good question :-) the partition with that file was goven to grub when installing. i guess the command line of grub could answer that. or you could look for a /boot folder on your primary disk
[01:18] <dj_segfault> PowhatanBob: put in your .profile.
[01:18] <mirza__> snuitje: hah, HOW?
[01:18] <snuitje> mirza__: just ran the songbird script and went through the setup wizard
[01:18] <Sk8rdude> anyone know how to force a resolution in X when there isn't a monitor connected to the computer?
[01:18] <kevin7> i use adept to install kdenlive? ._.
[01:19] <snuitje> mirza__: did you try running it in a terminal?
[01:19] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc: does it have to be on a ext3 partition?
[01:19] <kevin7> yea
[01:19] <tritium> meoblast001: have you tried ubuntu-studio?
[01:19] <ardchoille> kevin7: are you using Ubuntu 8.10?
[01:19] <zsquareplusc> meoblast001: try lsusb and use the usb id (like 1234:5678) to search google.
[01:19] <meoblast001> tritium: dont feel like downloading it... cant i just use specific parts from it
[01:19] <kevin7> hardy yea
[01:19] <snuitje> or maybe it's an extension problem, try mv .songbird2 .songbird3
[01:19] <mirza__> snuitje: theres a file in the songbird folder called 'songbird' without any extension. should I run that in terminal?
[01:20] <snuitje> yeah try it
[01:20] <tritium> meoblast001: you, you can.
[01:20] <meoblast001> zsquareplusc: tritium: it "works" but it wont work in ALSA so flash wont work with it nor any other common programs
[01:20] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: it is usually when grub was installed from a linux. but it can also be on other formated disks
[01:20] <ardchoille> kevin7: to install kdenlive: sudo apt-get install kdenlive
[01:20] <zsquareplusc> meoblast001: ok, so its running as secondary card and your application is taking the 1st all the time?
[01:21] <SherlawkDragon> anyone know how I can download a new Applet Plugin for FireFox?  the one I have doesn't seem to be working
[01:21] <SherlawkDragon> ...
[01:21] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc: what if its installed directly from the GRUB disk?
[01:21] <ardchoille> SherlawkDragon:  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/
[01:21] <meoblast001> zsquareplusc, no... none of his cards will work with ALSA or OSS... i did get the USB device to work with USB Audio and Jack but most common appliications cant use those 2.. i would prefer it work in ALSA
[01:21] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: hm. i don't know that one. but grub usualy reads its configuration from a file.
[01:22] <cheater_> can someone please point me to getting some good themes for ubuntu?
[01:22] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, what gruub should i use? GNU GRUB 2?
[01:22] <smartguyz> AWESOME  thank you for the HELP !!!
[01:22] <SherlawkDragon> thanks
[01:22] <ardchoille> !themes | cheater_
[01:22] <zsquareplusc> meoblast001: with latest ubuntu, applications should use pulse audio. pulse audio also provides an ALSA emulation. maybe you can set pulse audio to use it
[01:22] <woot> nintendork32 what's the problem?
[01:23] <Sk8rdude> anyone know how to force a resolution in X when there isn't a monitor connected to the computer?
[01:23] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: ubuntu uses the "legacy" version by default. i'd stick with that
[01:23] <meoblast001> zsquareplusc, he has 7.10 and next time i see him i'll probably update him to 8.04 or 8.10 but his card wont work with ALSA out of the box so thats the problem.... i need it to work with alsa but cant fingure out how
[01:23] <wcGary83> Hi! Does anybody else have a problem with totem killing the sound on their computer?
[01:23] <meoblast001> zsquareplusc, if it wont work with alsa, wont it not work with pulse
[01:24] <demonspork> Using Ubuntu 7.10 with compiz-fusion, while using TwinView for multiple displays, when I fullscreen VLC for a movie, it has a border, just 6 or 7 pixels wide, where the desktop background is visible. how do I get rid of this border
[01:24] <kevin7> where does the kdenlive go to sounds and video? ._.
[01:24] <macjason0607> help
[01:24] <mirza__> opening that file in terminal, and the terminal opens up, and disappears half a second later.
[01:24] <nintendork32> Is there a way to install GRUB from ubuntu itself w/ out the live cd?
[01:24] <snuitje> demon_spork: change your background to black
[01:24] <snuitje> -_-
[01:24] <Failtacular> Could somebody help me set up my microphone?
[01:25] <mirza__> im about to give up
[01:25] <macjason0607> i can't boot into windows .. it dosen't show up under grub
[01:25] <zsquareplusc> meoblast001: pulse audio can use jack.
[01:25] <Failtacular> Please?
[01:25] <macjason0607> anyone ?
[01:25] <macjason0607> i didn't format anything
[01:25] <snuitje> mirza__: worked with the terminal before?
[01:25] <Dark_Wolf> can anyone tell me how to connect with a modem in Intrepid?
[01:25] <macjason0607> gparted isn't reading my localdisk
[01:25] <woot> nintendork32 why do you want to install grub? don't you have one already?
[01:25] <Sk8rdude> macjason0607 did you install windows or ubuntu first?
[01:26] <nintendork32> woot: no i dont have it
[01:26] <macjason0607> windows first
[01:26] <macjason0607> ubuntu is on my external hd
[01:26] <Ohmu> Dark_Wolf, wvdial?
[01:26] <Dark_Wolf> :/
[01:26] <Dark_Wolf> I'd prefer something with a GUI
[01:26] <zsquareplusc> Failtacular: you will have more luck by writing your questions directly instead of asking for someone to answer
[01:26] <meoblast001> zsquareplusc, but can flash, totem, songbird, and rhythmbox use jack... no... so we cant use jack
[01:26] <macjason0607> fuck
[01:26] <woot> nintendork32 and why do you need it? do you have 2 operating systems?
[01:26] <Sk8rdude> booting from an external drive is a bad idea to start with
[01:26] <nintendork32> woot: yep
[01:26] <woot> nintendork32 you installed windows after ubuntu?
[01:26] <Sk8rdude> if you want to boot from windows just unplug the external drive
[01:27] <cheater_> can anyone help me enable emerald to handle my themes?
[01:27] <Ohmu> Dark_Wolf, gnome-ppp.  It's a GUI for wvdial
[01:27] <zsquareplusc> meoblast001: they use ASLA->pulse audios emulation -> jack  maybe even jack has a ALSA emulation directly?
[01:27] <mirza__> nope, didn't work before in terminal
[01:27] <nintendork32> woot: no but its a long story so just help me install grub
[01:27] <meoblast001> zsquareplusc, when i tried it on his system it didnt work..... and i've noticed on my own 8.04 system that when jack is running adobe flash wont work
[01:27] <mirza__> ah, screw it. Ill just wait for the official version to come out.
[01:27] <mirza__> Thanks though
[01:28] <woot> nintendork32 grub for itself won't be enough to boot both
[01:28] <nintendork32> Is there a way to install GRUB from ubuntu itself w/ out the live cd?
[01:28] <snuitje> mirza__: try #songbird maybe they have a bug on it
[01:28] <mirza__> ok
[01:28] <lbs> hi
[01:28] <nintendork32> woot: i know i just need to know how to install it in the MBR
[01:29] <woot> nintendork32 open a terminal and type grub
[01:29] <Dark_Wolf> Ohmu, where can I download gnome-ppp?
[01:29] <woot> nintendork32 maybe it's already installed
[01:29] <Sk8rdude> anyone know how to force a resolution in X when there isn't a monitor connected to the computer?
[01:29] <lbs> who knows how to search  the file quickly in nautilus?
[01:29] <Sk8rdude> lbs: use the search feature
[01:29] <nintendork32> woot: i know for a FACT its not installed
[01:29] <Artarian> My Pavilion has been totally destroyed by this new Ubuntu version nor NVIDIA or Wireless is working with this new SHITTY kernel
[01:29] <Artarian> can someone help me
[01:29] <snuitje> it should work since it's an RC, if it doesn't run then that's a fairly release-critical bug unless it's your own fault of course -_-
[01:29] <Ohmu> Dark_Wolf, have you looked in Sys->Admin->PackageManager?
[01:29] <woot> Sk8rdude maybe xrandr will do the work
[01:29] <woot> ok nintendork32
[01:30] <Sk8rdude> woot: already tried it
[01:30] <Dark_Wolf> ohmu?
[01:30] <woot> Sk8rdude xrandr -s 1024x768 ? for example
[01:30] <Sk8rdude> tried it
[01:30] <woot> Sk8rdude hmm
[01:30] <Sk8rdude> tried making a new mode
[01:30] <zsquareplusc> meoblast001: it's comples with multiple audio devices. and some drivers only allow one player at a time. that's why there is pulseaudio and/or jack. the bad thing is that some apps only use the 1st device they find
[01:30] <Sk8rdude> wasnt having any of it
[01:31] <Ohmu> Dark_Wolf, click 'System' ...
[01:31] <woot> Sk8rdude yeah
[01:31] <woot> Sk8rdude tricky
[01:31] <woot> Sk8rdude btw why do you need to do that?
[01:31] <Dark_Wolf> Ohmu, you can give me several directions at once
[01:31] <Dark_Wolf> I;m not new
[01:31] <meoblast001> zsquareplusc, well.. i want to roll out everything before i see him again so i can fix it right... he also has a sound blaster but all ALSA and OSS devices only have a recording option
[01:32] <Sk8rdude> woot: for some reason it's defaulted to 960x540 after a reboot
[01:32] <Sk8rdude> woot: and since i use it for vnc, it would be nice to have 1280x1024 back
[01:32] <Ohmu> Dark_Wolf, what more do you need?
[01:32] <woot> Sk8rdude yeah I see
[01:33] <Dark_Wolf> all you gave me was "Click System"
[01:33] <eidolon> hi folk s- i'm looking for a suggestion for what mp3 player / streaming audio player to use under gnome.  back in the day i used xmms... but that seems to be gone.  what's the current state of the art?  i looked at songbird, but i really detest itunes' interface, so that won't work :)
[01:33] <zsquareplusc> Sk8rdude: try vncserver, that runs a separate screen where you can easily set the resolution you want
[01:33] <Sk8rdude> eidolon: amarok has good support for streaming
[01:33] <snuitje> well totem works but it's not xmms
[01:34] <zsquareplusc> eidolon: audacious with the refugee skin :-)
[01:34] <Samuel-NotAFK> The Alternate ISOs don't want to work with Unetbootin, I get a "cannot find CD" error.
[01:34] <Ohmu> Dark_Wolf, also I gave you: have you looked in Sys->Admin->PackageManager?
[01:34] <snuitje> then theres banshee but it needs mono
[01:34] <eidolon> amarok's a KDE app though, yes?  most of the kde apps i run under gnome look awful.
[01:34] <Sk8rdude> its what i use and i'm happy with it
[01:34] <Dark_Wolf> Ohmu, I don't have Package Manager
[01:34] <woot> nintendork32 try sudo apt-get install grub
[01:34] <nintendork32> woot: tried
[01:35] <zsquareplusc> Dark_Wolf: he means synaptics
[01:35] <Dark_Wolf> oh right...
[01:35] <woot> nintendork32 and what was the error?
[01:35] <snuitje> eidolon: there still seems to be audacious
[01:35] <meoblast001> zsquareplusc, when i select output to alsa... it gives errors but i cant remember what they were at the moment... it said really weird words
[01:35] <lbs> Sk8rdude,Have you seen my question?
[01:35] <Trashlord> which file do I edit to automatically log me in and do startx on boot?
[01:35] <snuitje> but it's not maintained iirc
[01:35] <eidolon> i'll give audacious a try, thanks.
[01:35] <nintendork32> woot: none just didnt work
[01:35] <woot> nintendork32 ok
[01:35] <Sk8rdude> lbs: i answered your question a while back
[01:36] <lbs> Sk8rdude,thank you.
[01:36] <zsquareplusc> eidolon: you will like the refugee skin if you like xmms ;-)
[01:36] <Dark_Wolf> gnome-ppp is not listed
[01:36] <snuitje> "Quod Libet" and Exaile are gnome players
[01:36] <getoo> what is a cool app to search
[01:36] <Samuel-NotAFK> stupid Ubuntu alternate installer doesn't work ><
[01:36] <snuitje> deskbar-applet
[01:36] <getoo> i've seen one better then mac os x
[01:37] <getoo> for 8.10
[01:37] <eidolon> audacious looks good.  thanks!
[01:37] <Dark_Wolf> > Ohmu and zsquareplusc
[01:37] <snuitje> yeah, originally based on xmms
[01:37] <snuitje> it's buggy though
[01:37] <eidolon> oh?
[01:37] <Trashlord> what file do I need to edit to automatically log me in and do startx on boot?
[01:37] <snuitje> better save that playlist -_-
[01:38] <zsquareplusc> i have not yet experienced a bug in audacious
[01:38] <eidolon> bah, i don't build playlists for the most part.
[01:38] <eidolon> i listen to audio streams like crazy.  and now i have my own mpd / icecast server, so... :)
[01:38] <snuitje> well ok, i like to load up 2000+ songs, could be me...
[01:38] <woot> nintendork32 try this sudo grub
[01:39] <Ohmu> Dark_Wolf, hmm I have it.  Maybe it's in a repo you don't have.  alternatively mebe http://www.gnome-ppp.org/ ?
[01:40] <Dark_Wolf> gnome-ppp.org does not exist
[01:40] <Dark_Wolf> Ohmu, I don't have internet on the machine in question
[01:40] <Ohmu> This is annoying.  In package manager I cant see any way to find which repo a particular package is in.
[01:40] <Dark_Wolf> Ohmu, where chan I get the deb package?
[01:41] <meoblast001> zsquareplusc, sorry.. audition locked up my computer
[01:41] <Ohmu> Dark_Wolf, then try the webby.. I dunno... google ;)
[01:41] <meoblast001> did you want to tell me something?
[01:41] <zsquareplusc> Ohmu: it tells the section in the properties of a package
[01:41] <zsquareplusc> meoblast001: nah. i cant really help you :(
[01:42] <kuraku> help commands
[01:42] <meoblast001> =(
[01:42] <nintendork32> woot: ok what all am i to do?
[01:42] <meoblast001> can anyone help me... my dad was talking crap about ubuntu because it wasnt working and he likes things that work
[01:42] <Dark_Wolf> Ohmu, got it
[01:42] <nintendork32> woot: pm me the rest as i will be afk for a little bit
[01:42] <Samuel-NotAFK> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=978888 Does any-one know a solution to this problem?
[01:42] <meoblast001> if i cant get this working.. me and ubuntu will look like idiots
[01:43] <Samuel-NotAFK> meoblast001: Hardware not working or just general buggiiness?
[01:43] <meoblast001> hardware
[01:43] <Samuel-NotAFK> meoblast001: Using 8.10?
[01:43] <meoblast001> 7.10 but i plan to upgrade him to 8.04
[01:43] <meoblast001> the problem is a Lexicon Omega
[01:43] <meoblast001> wont run in ALSA
[01:43] <Ohmu> zsquareplusc, thx
[01:43] <goosh> anyone know why the titlebars of my windows like to disappear?
[01:43] <dlukes> uig2.wikidot.com
[01:43] <hsn> hey guys
[01:43] <meoblast001> it works in jack and USB audio but Flash, Totem, WINE, Songbird, and all the programs ppl use cant work with jack and USB audio
[01:44] <Samuel-NotAFK> meoblast001: 8.10 has the newest kernel and therefore best hardware support.
[01:44] <hsn> i recently updated my ubuntu and now i cant switch between themes
[01:44] <meoblast001> Samuel-NotAFK, any idea if it works with Lexicon Omega?
[01:44] <hsn> can soemone help me out?
[01:44] <zsquareplusc> Samuel-NotAFK: it identifies the disk by saerching for hidden files on the CD. if these are also present on the USB disk it should find it too
[01:44] <dlukes> http://uig2.wikidot.com/
[01:44] <Ohmu> Dark_Wolf, ok gl!
[01:44] <Samuel-NotAFK> meoblast001: no idea
[01:44] <Dark_Wolf> I intalled it...
[01:44] <dd_deargod> abcd
[01:45] <meoblast001> Samuel-NotAFK, why did the ubuntu hardware compatibility list in the wiki go down
[01:45] <hsn> whenever i switch between themes, most of the colours dont change
[01:45] <hsn> please help :(
[01:45] <Samuel-NotAFK> zsquareplusc: Well it doesn't.
[01:45] <meoblast001> Samuel-NotAFK, im sure that _had_ info on whether it would work... but now its gone
[01:45] <Samuel-NotAFK> meoblast001: wait until it's up then
[01:45] <meoblast001> Samuel-NotAFK, its not on google anymore... i think they removed it
[01:45] <hsn> anyone?
[01:46] <snuitje> hsn: isn't it supposed to be like that? since there's a seperate colour tab?
[01:46] <zsquareplusc> Samuel-NotAFK: is there a ".disk" folder?
[01:46] <hsn> uhm
[01:46] <hsn> no
[01:46] <macjason0607> so guys
[01:46] <macjason0607> can i boot into windows ? it isn't showing up in grub
[01:46] <schlachthauz> a lexicon omega is some kind of router for music instruments isnt it? So it has to interact with software that comes with the omega. So the question is does the software work, right? Have you tried something like Audacity with it?
[01:46] <zsquareplusc> !ask | hsn
[01:46] <hsn> the colours get all messed up snuitje.... the window borders dont change with the theme
[01:46] <snuitje> hsn: are all your applications using gtk2?
[01:47] <Samuel-NotAFK> zsquareplusc: Yes
[01:47] <hsn> snuitje: how do i check?
[01:47] <snuitje> hsn: try selecting another window decoration
[01:47] <limin100714> hello
[01:47] <hsn> snuitje: i did... all of them except the default theme have the same problem
[01:47] <limin100714> bye bye!
[01:47] <zsquareplusc> Samuel-NotAFK: hm. do you have suck a folder on a partition in the pc you want to install? maybe it identifies the wrong device as "live cd"..
[01:47] <dlukes> http://uig2.wikidot.com/
[01:47] <Samuel-NotAFK> zsquareplusc: And all the files are in that directory.
[01:48] <macjason0607> guys im looking in menu.lst and i don't see the windows in there
[01:48] <Samuel-NotAFK> zsquareplusc: No.
[01:48]  * Rockay test this command
[01:48] <Samuel-NotAFK> zsquareplusc: It doesn't detect any device.
[01:49] <ott0> hey, is there any way to interactively edit only the first X lines or bytes of a file?
[01:49] <snuitje> hsn: some borders might not support custom colours but instead provide their own
[01:49] <ott0> without loading the rest into memory
[01:49] <zsquareplusc> Samuel-NotAFK: well as it boots the live version it actually seems to find the disk. it's only the installer that fails later. i think i've read a bug about that some time ago
[01:49] <hsn> snuitje: they're the default themes
[01:50] <hsn> snuitje: all of them used to work... i remember
[01:50] <snuitje> hsn: then maybe gnome-settings-daemon died
[01:50] <Samuel-NotAFK> zsquareplusc: The live version works but I want to encrypt my laptop
[01:50] <netyire> ott0: you could run python on it, I suppose
[01:50] <meoblast001> i feel left in the cold here
[01:50] <meoblast001> i could just follow my new outlook on life
[01:50] <snuitje> maybe you can just run "gnome-settings-daemon" or relog
[01:50] <meoblast001> give up
[01:50] <netyire> meoblast001: ?
[01:51] <snuitje> if that fails it could be a compiz problem
[01:51] <hsn> snuitje: i remember there was a compiz update installed
[01:51] <zsquareplusc> Samuel-NotAFK: ah, if you want to install on encrypted partitons right away, i think you have to use the alternate-cd to install
[01:51] <meoblast001> netyire, ubuntu wont work on my dads computer so he started talking smack about it.... i cant find anything on google on how to get a Lexicon Omega to work with ALSA or how to get his Broadcom BCM 4306 to go fullspeed
[01:52] <Samuel-NotAFK> zsquareplusc: I do but it doesn't work.
[01:52] <Samuel-NotAFK> zsquareplusc: I don't have a CD drive.
[01:52] <nintendork32> Is there a way to install GRUB from ubuntu itself w/ out the live cd?
[01:52] <netyire> meoblast001: http://www.lexiconpro.com/Community/viewtopic.php?t=189
[01:52] <ott0> netyire: do you mean write a script to match the things i want to change and change them?
[01:52] <Samuel-NotAFK> nintendork32: apt-get install grub
[01:52] <nintendork32> if not whats an easy way to do it?
[01:52] <netyire> meoblast001: "I recently purchased a Lexicon Omega and it works flawlessly on Ubuntu Feisty Fawn. All I had to do was plug it into the USB port. ."
[01:52] <netyire> ott0: that would work :-)
[01:53] <nintendork32> Samuel-NotAFK, tred it before
[01:53] <nintendork32> tried*
[01:53] <netyire> ott0: though I'll admit it isn't a very elegant solution
[01:53] <Samuel-NotAFK> nintendork32: sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub?
[01:53] <ott0> netyire: think there's any possible way to interactive edit?
[01:53] <meoblast001> netyire: yeah right... wont work with Adobe flash because adobe flash only works with ALSA... wont work with any ALSA apps... like WINE for example.... thats because it uses USB Audio... how do i use ALSA
[01:53]  * netyire ponders
[01:53] <nintendork32> Samuel-NotAFK, ill try let me VNC to it
[01:53] <netyire> ott0: python is all I know of, I'm afraid
[01:53] <Samuel-NotAFK> nintendork32: k
[01:53] <ott0> netyire: sed was suggested to me also
[01:54]  * netyire notes down sed
[01:54] <netyire> thanks
[01:54] <schlachthauz> maybe try Elive instead of Ubuntu for multimedia  http://www.elivecd.org/
[01:54] <ott0> or i suppose i could write my own shell script that reads in x bytes and pipes it to an interative editor?
[01:54] <ott0> well no then the editor would have to pipe it back and the script would have to save it
[01:55] <ott0> sigh
[01:55] <snuitje> usb audio is a standard and a driver, alsa is an abstraction layer, an api for apps to use
[01:55] <bouma> how easy is zfs under fuse to setup.. ive got a 1TB and it looks like zfs is the best for a number of reasons.
[01:55] <bouma> including stability
[01:55] <Weez> what is the lspci command to identify your audio device?
[01:55] <nintendork32> what the hell i can just ssh it :P
[01:55] <zsquareplusc> Samuel-NotAFK: hm. there are other ways. for example there is also a harddisk image that you can copy to a partition and boot to run the installer. or network boot, but that more coplex to set up a server
[01:55] <balrog> anybody know how I can fix the colors used for the animation for changing sound animation?  screenshot: http://img20.imageshack.us/done.php?l=img20/1718/audiochangepdixk7.png
[01:55] <bouma> can i access zfs through xp ??
[01:55] <fprintf1> Does anyone know of a music player that lets a person slow down an MP3 besides Audacity?  I find that Audacity takes too long to load an MP3.
[01:56] <hsn> snuitje: i'm uploading a screenshot right now. i hope you can help me out
[01:56] <fprintf1> Or the ability to loop specific sections of a song would be also nice.
[01:56] <Sk8rdude> bouma: i have 2tb and no problem with ext
[01:56] <meoblast001> snuitje: yeah..... how do i get ALSA to work with this... intefaces were ALSA, OSS, ESD, USB Audio, and Auto Detect... autodetect and usb audio worked... but alsa, oss, and esd reported errors i cant remember right now... and im not at that computer
[01:56] <DavidCanarias> Hi does anyone use Brasero for burning CDs. I am having capacity problems and need some advice please?
[01:56] <Samuel-NotAFK> zsquareplusc: Those sound overly complicated and silly when I have a USB drive.
[01:56] <Samuel-NotAFK> zsquareplusc: The installer doesn't support my wireless card either.
[01:57] <zsquareplusc> Samuel-NotAFK: the harddisk image has chances to boot off the usb stick :-)
[01:57] <Samuel-NotAFK> zsquareplusc: hmmm yeah
[01:57] <meoblast001> snuitje, ahh.. it was this.. "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback. Device is being used by another application."
[01:57] <Samuel-NotAFK> zsquareplusc: I know what you mean now, I've done it before.
[01:57] <hsn> here it is http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1af4.jpg
[01:57] <Samuel-NotAFK> zsquareplusc: I'll do it tomorrow, I need sleep now.
[01:57] <nintendork32> Samuel-NotAFK, I did it then looked in /boot/ but no /boot/grub/ is there
[01:58] <hsn> see, even though i've changed the theme, the window border is still orange
[01:58] <meoblast001> snuitje, any idea what that error means?
[01:58] <snuitje> meoblast001: even after pkill esd and pkill artsd?
[01:58] <hsn> so is the taskbar
[01:58] <DavidCanarias> Any expert around using Brasero for CD burning. I keep being told I don't have enough capacity on the CD which is ridiculous?? Help please
[01:58] <snuitje> yes, it means there's an application running that doesn't want to play nice
[01:59] <vocal9> DavidCanarias: did u try diff cds
[01:59] <Dark_Wolf> well
[01:59] <meoblast001> snuitje, first of all... its not kde.. and second.. i dont have access to the computer or the device at the moment... i just need to roll out all possibilities and figure out how to get it to work so i can set it up in 2 weeks
[01:59] <Dark_Wolf> Ohmu, I got gnome-ppp to connect, but it wouldn't send or receive data
[01:59] <meoblast001> snuitje, but i can try on my system with my intel card and see what happens... since thats how i reproduced the error
[01:59] <Samuel-NotAFK> nintendork32: ' sudo update-grub'
[01:59] <hsn> anyone help please :(
[02:00] <DavidCanarias> voacl9: Hi.... Yes I have tried, but the same message comes up. I'm trying to burn 250mb of mp3 music to a CD with 700mb capacity, it tells me there isnt enough capacity
[02:00] <PassionFRUI7E> Does anyone know how to change themes for individual programs?
[02:00] <snuitje> if you log in with gdm and select failsafe xterm instead of gnome, you can run metacity and then the application that gave that error
[02:00] <zerodevice> hi everyone
[02:00] <PassionFRUI7E> I do a dark theme but it's annoying to see inverted buttons in firefox.  I know it's possible just uncommon..
[02:00] <vocal9> DavidCanarias: try a different burning app ?
[02:00] <meoblast001> snuitje, thanx... it worked.. now to roll out all possible errors
[02:00] <DavidCanarias> vocal9: Such as???
[02:00] <balrog> PassionFRUI7E: gimme a sec, theres a guide...lemme find it...
[02:00] <snuitje> that way nothing else should be running that could hold the device hostage
[02:00] <zerodevice> snuitje, can i ask you some questions regarding tasksel?
[02:00] <nintendork32> Samual: it said to do sudo update-grub
[02:01] <PassionFRUI7E> balrog: Thanks so much!
[02:01] <nintendork32> Samel*
[02:01] <hsn> http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7922/screenshot1af4.jpg <---- how do i fix the colours?
[02:01] <wolfwalker> #pidgin is dead.  Can I ask a Pidgin related question here?  It's running on Ubuntu 8.04.
[02:01] <nintendork32> Samuel*
[02:01] <PassionFRUI7E> Of course.
[02:01] <snuitje> just ask here, give everyone a chance to answer
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[02:01] <wolfwalker> Ne'mind, seems I was too impatient.
[02:01] <meoblast001> snuitje, what is all this http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-usb-audio
[02:02] <DavidCanarias> wolfwalker: whats your problem
[02:02] <Sk8rdude> good work
[02:02] <balrog> PassionFRUI7E: this one's the best guide: http://opencomputing.blogspot.com/2008/05/using-dark-theme-in-ubuntu.html  , here are others: http://ubuntusatanic.org/dark-themes.php  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=873486
[02:02] <PassionFRUI7E> Thanks mate.
[02:02] <Samuel-NotAFK> nintendork32: I need sleep now, best of luck
[02:02] <hsn> can anyone please help?
[02:02] <wolfwalker>  I'm running Ubuntu 8.04.  Pidgin will connect to my yahoo IM account sometimes, and sometimes it won't.  When I get on real Yahoo IM it will connect.  Pidgin will always refuse to connect if it has been shut down abruptly before, or if I signed in on another computer and interrupted it.
[02:02] <balrog> PassionFRUI7E: no prob, im having the same issue.  if you like dark themes, check out Blue-Joy
[02:02] <Sk8rdude> anyone know how to force a resolution in X when there isn't a monitor connected to the computer?
[02:02] <DavidCanarias> vocal9: I tried k3b and had to deinstall it with so many problems. Can you suggest any others I could try please?
[02:03] <rahduke> is it possible to mount linux partitions in Virtualbox running XP
[02:03] <wolfwalker> Kopete will not connect either, but real Yahoo IM will.  But real Yahoo IM is bloated and slow.
[02:03] <hammerJime> i installed ubuntu server, and then installed gnome desktop because I want to be able to remote in graphically, on occasion...I then disabled gdm thinking that I could login as a terminal and run startx if i needed to, but now i dont even get a prompt to login
[02:03] <hsn> .....
[02:03] <Sk8rdude> hammerJime: have you got ssh?
[02:03] <hammerJime> what can I do to get a prompt and then run gnome if i need it?
[02:03] <Hellow> what would be the equivalent of jpeg-6b-r8 in the Intrepid repos?
[02:03] <hammerJime> yes
[02:03] <hammerJime> ssh works
[02:03] <macjason0607> can somone pm me and help me ? windows is not booting
[02:03] <DavidCanarias> wolfwalker: seems Kopete has answered, but my personal experience of Pidgin isn't brilliant. Have you tried amsn which is better
[02:03] <Sk8rdude> hammerJime: so ssh in and start X
[02:04] <meoblast001> snuitje, second problem... his Broadcom BCM 4306 runs much slower in ubuntu.. he uses ndiswrapper
[02:04] <zerodevice> snuitje, thanks. i am starting a fresh installation of the ubuntu server edition, and i have just completed the installation, however becoz i preffer to have a GUI, thus i plan on installing a ubuntu-desktop by using "tasksel" in the sudo cmd.  ok, now my question is, i am trying to skip the long process of internet downloading of the "ubuntu-desktop" setup files and hope i can install it...
[02:04] <zerodevice> ...from a live CD since i have both desktop and server edition, and in the "tasksel", do i choose "ubuntu live cd" or "ubuntu-desktop"?
[02:04] <DIFH-iceroot> !grub | macjason0607
[02:04] <hammerJime> Sk8rdude: that doenst work right
[02:04] <bonhoffer> i am ssh on my web-server and i want a file locally, how can i get it -- sftp is there any way to let the connection know about my parent connection
[02:04] <snuitje> wolfwalker: had the same problem, has to do with the yahoo servers because when i log in to yahoo with firefox, any im client works again
[02:04] <sudobash> is there a fix for people who lost their wallpaper? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=957382
[02:04] <nintendork32> how would i install GRUB with  grub-install [OPTION] install_device. what should i make install_device? put MBR?
[02:04] <Sk8rdude> hammerJime: define 'not right'
[02:04] <hsn> http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7922/screenshot1af4.jpg <---- how do i fix this?
[02:05] <rahduke> is it possible to mount linux partitions in Virtualbox running XP
[02:05]  * firstIRC_No slaps a-atwood around a bit with a large trout
[02:05] <snuitje> zerodevice: if you can, insert a desktop CD and use apt-cdrom
[02:05] <sudobash> samba
[02:05] <hammerJime> Sk8rdude: it brings up the standard "X" style gray background and cross mouse pointer, but thats it, and it pings back no protocol specified to my SSH'd computer
[02:05] <hmw_> i cant get my Voodoo Banshee 3dfx video card running. xorg log shows no errors and ends with "initializing card by sending int10 signal" (or somehting alike)
[02:05] <snuitje> you could use usb sticks or other stuff too
[02:05] <snuitje> but not with apt-cdrom -_-
[02:06] <snuitje> meoblast001: about the alsa page, that's been taken care of by ubuntu / debian
[02:06] <hsn> snuitje: any clues on how do i fix it?
[02:06] <snuitje> no need to worry about compiling/installing alsa modules :)
[02:06] <Sk8rdude> hammerJime: have you turned off the DM etc as well?
[02:06] <snuitje> hsn: lemme c
[02:06] <hsn> snuitje:  here's the link once again http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7922/screenshot1af4.jpg
[02:06] <meoblast001> snuitje, ok.... any idea about the bcm 4306?
[02:07] <lovinglinux> hi. I'm experiencing issues running a script using cron. The script is for  recording TV. It works if launched manually, but doesn't work when scheduled.
[02:07] <bonhoffer> i am connected to my web-server (ubuntu) via ssh and i want a file locally (ubuntu 8.10), how can i get it -- i think sftp, but do i need to connect back to my parent ip -- no idea what that is . . . or if my isp allows external sftp connections . . .
[02:07] <rahduke> noone knows about VirtualBox
[02:07] <hammerJime> Sk8rdude: i'm not sure what exactly i shut off....when i disabled gdm, i did it graphically by going to System->Admin->Services and unchecked the gdm box
[02:07] <meoblast001> snuitje: would pkill alsa work if i want alsa to work?
[02:07] <Dark_Wolf> can anyone help me figure out why my modem won't send or receive data after connecting?
[02:08] <zerodevice> snuitje, if i install a desktop cd, will that overwrite the server edition i installed?
[02:08] <hammerJime> Sk8rdude: the screen then went black and reboots no longer bring up the graphical login or a promt
[02:08] <snuitje> hsn: same thing happens here
[02:08] <hmw_> bonhoffer you may try scp
[02:08] <Kudi> ubuntu suxxx archlinux is wayy better...
[02:08] <snuitje> meoblast001: alsa is an api, not a process, so no
[02:08] <Sk8rdude> hammerJime: have you tried other tty's?
[02:08] <caedmon> er
[02:08] <hsn> snuitje: but it used to work perfectly before :S could you tell me how do i fix it?
[02:08] <hammerJime> Sk8rdude: its just a blank screen with a nonblinking cursor, so i cant login to the computer itself, but i can ssh in
[02:08] <snuitje> meoblast001: the command wont do anything
[02:08] <bonhoffer> hmw_, thanks
[02:08] <meoblast001> snuitje, so how would i get that strange error to stop showing when i select alsa?
[02:08] <jrib> Kudi: do you have a question about ubuntu?  Discuss arch vs ubuntu somewhere else please
[02:09] <bonhoffer> good tutorial or quick lesson available?
[02:09] <Kudi> jrib: why does it suck so much
[02:09] <hammerJime> Sk8rdude: i dont know what that means
[02:09] <bonhoffer> hmw_, for my situation -- this is secure copy, right?
[02:09] <snuitje> meoblast001: you got it working after pkill esd?
[02:09] <DasEi> my firefox doesn 't start no more, I get a segmentation fault (cmd-line), syslog : http://paste.ubuntu.com/76206/  What to do ?
[02:09] <meoblast001> snuitje, well... pkill oss... cuz that was what the problem was with.. but yeah
[02:10] <hmw_> bonhoffer yes, it uses ssh. read the man page or find stuff on the web, its quite common. i usually use it to "push" a file to some other computer
[02:10] <Sk8rdude> hammerJime: do you have access to the box now?
[02:10] <meoblast001> snuitje, but that was with my system... not the system with the problem hardware
[02:10] <Dark_Wolf> DasEi, reinstall firefox
[02:10] <hsn> snuitje:  so how do i apply the theme
[02:10] <snuitje> meoblast001: try pgrep oss, it should show nothing
[02:10] <bonhoffer> hmw_, looks exactly what i need, thanks!
[02:10] <snuitje> oss is the old api
[02:10] <DasEi> ﻿ Dark_Wolf:trying ..
[02:10] <meoblast001> snuitje, but my card on this system wastn  compatible with OSS so i ran pkill oss and changed it to oss and it worked
[02:10] <hammerJime> Sk8rdude: yes, via ssh
[02:10] <hmw_> bonhoffer you might have to install the ssh server on your box
[02:10] <meoblast001> snuitje, i want ALSA to run on the other system though with the problem hardware... what would i run for that
[02:10] <zsquareplusc> DasEi: you tried -safe-mode?
[02:11] <meoblast001> and pgrep oss has nothing
[02:11] <Sk8rdude> hammerJime: physical access...
[02:11] <hsn> ?
[02:11] <DasEi> ﻿ zsquareplusc: ff - safemode ??
[02:11] <hammerJime> Sk8rdude: oh, yes, both computers are sitting side by side in my room
[02:11] <snuitje> meoblast001: "pkill oss" won't kill anything on a typical ubuntu desktop
[02:11] <snuitje> changing to oss alone should've worked
[02:11] <Sk8rdude> hammerJime: try ctrl + alt + f1
[02:11] <snuitje> try "ps ax" to see what's running
[02:11] <meoblast001> snuitje, well.. what would i do on my dads system with the problem hardware to make alsa work then?
[02:11] <hsn> snuitje:  how do i fix the themee?
[02:12] <zsquareplusc> DasEi: yes, with the addional dash as i wrote it above. it wont load all the plugins. in case one of them is crashing
[02:12] <DasEi> ﻿ zsquareplusc: 320064:~$ firefox -safe-mode
[02:12] <DasEi> Segmentation fault
[02:12] <wos> !ivtv
[02:12] <zsquareplusc> too bd :/
[02:12] <hsn> http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7922/screenshot1af4.jpg <---- how do i fix this?
[02:13] <snuitje> hsn: try it in a guest session
[02:13] <snuitje> hsn: if that fails, file a bug
[02:13] <bonhoffer> hmw_, from looking online this should work: scp my_errors_log john@kant:~/log . . . but i get ssh: kant: Name or service not known lost connection
[02:13] <hsn> k thanks
[02:14] <hammerJime> Sk8rdude: ok, i got the graphical backup by pressing cntrl alt f7
[02:14] <hmw_> bonhoffer kant must be a known host (you must be able to ping it, else use ip address) and it must be running the ssh server... is that so?
[02:14] <hammerJime> Sk8rdude: but how can i get it to boot up to the tty command prompt login
[02:14] <Sk8rdude> you can't
[02:14] <zsquareplusc> bonhoffer: "kant" can you ping this name? maybe your DNS /etc/resolf.conf isnt finding that mahcine
[02:14] <Sk8rdude> hammerJime: it automatically boots to tty7 which is the gui
[02:14] <meoblast001> snuitje, if i used ESD on the problem system, would it still work with major apps like WINE, Rhythmbox, Songbird, and Flash
[02:15] <zerodevice> snuitje, if i install desktop after server edition, will it overwrite the server eidtion that i have installed? or it will just add a gui on top?
[02:15] <bonhoffer> no -- perhaps i explained my situation all wrong, i am on kant, connected to 'sweat' with ssh so now i am at a bash prompt on sweat
[02:15] <snuitje> was the error device busy or file not found?
[02:15] <zsquareplusc> hammerJime: you dont want the gui? try adding "text" to the kernel parameters while booting
[02:15] <KatieKitty> zerodevice: mop
[02:15] <Farnaby> Anybody got a second for a chmod ?
[02:15] <bonhoffer> i can't ping kant at all . . .
[02:15] <AAAEMSU> Farnaby, ask
[02:15] <KatieKitty> zerodevice: nop, it wont
[02:15] <bonhoffer> (naturally -- kant is my local machine)
[02:15] <hsn> snuitje: when i try it in guest, i get a black screen and it freezes
[02:15] <AAAEMSU> System beep comes on again after I suspend my computer...
[02:15] <Farnaby> aaaemsu whats the default chmod for /home
[02:16] <AAAEMSU> Farnaby, I'd say 700, probably
[02:16] <Farnaby> not for /home/farnaby (644) but for /home itself
[02:16] <zerodevice> katiekitty, thanks, so right now after i've login to the ubuntu server, so i do "apt-cdrom -d"?
[02:16] <AAAEMSU> Oh
[02:16] <zsquareplusc> bonhoffer: you should be able to ping your local machine. maybe the name in /etc/hosts is wrong
[02:16] <bonhoffer> noob warning: it seems like i could use my current connection to send files back to the host (without going over the outside internet)
[02:16] <Farnaby> odd, when i tried that it bugged out I think
[02:16] <snuitje> zerodevice: if the package manager you're using needs to remove anything, it'll notify you
[02:16] <hammerJime> Sk8rdude: ok, well i got it back to where i can work with it easily, just for future reference, is this stuff more of linux login in general, or specific to gnome/gdm?
[02:16] <bonhoffer> no i can't ping my local machine from my webserver . . .
[02:16] <hsn> snuitje: when i try it in guest, i get a black screen and it freezes
[02:16] <hammerJime> Sk8rdude: so i can research some other time
[02:16] <snuitje> hsn: oh noes
[02:16] <nintendork32> how can i find out where MBR is?
[02:16] <KatieKitty> zerodevice: it will be safer if u just "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[02:16] <bonhoffer> (sweat is the webserver, kant is my local machine)
[02:16] <zerodevice> snuitje, thanks
[02:17] <snuitje> hsn: using desktop effects?
[02:17] <zsquareplusc> bonhoffer: just use the IP instead of the host name :p
[02:17] <hsn> snuitje: err.... i'm using compiz
[02:17] <DasEi> ﻿ Dark_Wolf:trying ..same as before
[02:17] <meoblast001> snuitje, how would i get his system to use ALSA if it reports that error? what do i pkill? ESD?
[02:17] <bonhoffer> i have xterm's on both sweat and kant -- i want to send a file from sweat to kant -- kant is not running an ssh server
[02:17] <snuitje> hsn: try disabling that first
[02:17] <Farnaby> aaaemsu, you think 700? Going once... going twice... I might just typoed something like 3 hours ago when it got all messed up in the first place
[02:17] <Sk8rdude> hammerJime: from what you have described it sounds like you just turned off your DM when you turned off X... it had nothing to do with login because you could still do that
[02:17] <AAAEMSU> Farnaby, let me check what mine is
[02:17] <zerodevice> katiekitty, i've tried the install ubuntu desktop path, its taking too long for me to download and install, so i was wondering if i could just install it from a desktop live cd.
[02:17] <Farnaby> thanks
[02:17] <pythetic> hi!
[02:17] <DasEi> ﻿ zsquareplusc: no change with a purged reinstall, too
[02:17] <pythetic> any vampires in here?
[02:17] <bonhoffer> kant's ip address comes from my router --
[02:18] <snuitje> meoblast001: what was the error?
[02:18] <wedgeoflemon> my sound isnt working properly
[02:18] <zsquareplusc> bonhoffer: then you have to run the command on the other box that has no ssh server but only a client. and connect to the server from there
[02:18] <pythetic> ?
[02:18] <hammerJime> Sk8rdude: anyways, thanks a lot
[02:18] <meoblast001> snuitje, let me scroll up... cant reproduce it right now
[02:18] <Sk8rdude> hammerJime: np
[02:18] <bonhoffer> zsquareplusc, o.k. makes sense
[02:18] <sudobash> is there a fix for people who lost their wallpaper? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=957382
[02:18] <bonhoffer> so no way to send info "back" via my ssh connection only
[02:18] <pythetic> which is better: ubuntu or ruby on rails?
[02:18] <meoblast001> snuitje, "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback. Device is being used by another application."
[02:18] <max_> lol
[02:19] <KatieKitty> zerodevice: yeah, u can do that too :)
[02:19] <DasEi> ﻿ wedgeoflemon: alsamixer installed ?
[02:19] <snuitje> ubuntu pwnz ror lol
[02:19] <zsquareplusc> DasEi: to bad. so it's probably crashing in some library not ff itself.
[02:19] <doctor> pythetic: windows NT.
[02:19] <trolldar> yay windows
[02:19] <wedgeoflemon> i have to use the sound controller to change my sound, when i use the button on my computer, it shows up the my sound is increasing and decreasing but it actually isnt
[02:19] <zsquareplusc> bonhoffer: using scp either source or target can be a remote machine. you can copy in both directions
[02:19] <meoblast001> snuitje, something at least very similar to that.... cant be sure cuz i dont have that hardware in front of me right now... but it looked like that so im assuming it's the same
[02:19] <jrib> trolldar, pythetic: stop now.  no more warnings
[02:19] <DasEi> ﻿ zsquareplusc: any idea how to find it ?
[02:19] <trolldar> jrib: uh, what did I do? I said "yay windows"
[02:19] <snuitje> so it's a busy error
[02:20] <AAAEMSU> Farnaby, if it helps, my /home is drwxr-xr-x
[02:20] <nintendork32> how can i find out where MBR is?
[02:20] <zerodevice> katiekitty, yes but i am stuck with the sudo command, im now logged in to the ubuntu server, waiting for my input. so what i do now is i put in the desktop live cd, then i type "apt-cdrom -d"?
[02:20] <pythetic> oh wait, i can install ubuntu on ror?
[02:20] <AAAEMSU> pythetic, yes Bella
[02:20] <zsquareplusc> DasEi: hm. gdb, strace. but i'd check with the #firefox people what the best option is
[02:20] <Farnaby> aaaemsu thanks I can figure it out from that... as soon as I stop drinking 10% beer ;)
[02:20] <DasEi> !who | wedgeoflemon
[02:20] <AAAEMSU> Sounds good
[02:20] <DasEi> ﻿ zsquareplusc: trying ..
[02:21] <saint`> so, any vampires in here?
[02:21] <snuitje> meoblast001: could this be related to bug 198453?
[02:21] <meoblast001> snuitje, wheres bug 198....
[02:21] <pythetic> saint`: what's a vampire?
[02:22] <KatieKitty> zerodevice: apt-cdrom -d /media/cdrom
[02:22] <zerodevice> katiekitty, thanks
[02:22] <snuitje> !bug 198453
[02:22] <snuitje> sheesh
[02:23] <snuitje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/198453
[02:23] <wedgeoflemon> my master volume thing isnt controlling my headphone volume level, how do i fix it?
[02:23] <wedgeoflemon> i use headphones most of the time.
[02:24] <Farnaby> aaaemsu if I am right thats 755 not 700. So good for me to know there. ;)
[02:24] <elemar> oi
[02:24] <kitche> wedgeoflemon: usually master does not control the volume sometimes it's PCM
[02:24] <Radar> wedgeoflemon: is there a headphone control instead?
[02:24] <AAAEMSU> Farnaby, sure :)
[02:24] <zsquareplusc> wedgeoflemon: using the properties of the volume control, you should be able to set the channel it controls
[02:24] <meoblast001> snuitje, no.. the problem system is running 7.10
[02:24] <wedgeoflemon> im trying to get it so that when i use the buttons on my keyboard the headphone volume will change aswell
[02:25] <snuitje> pcm is a different channel alltogether
[02:25] <zsquareplusc> wedgeoflemon: sounds like its controlling the wrong output. mine says "master" that works for all outputs on my machine
[02:25] <wedgeoflemon> whats pcm?
[02:25] <kc8pxy__> i'n trying to follow the howto on restoring grub, via livecd, and I'm getting grub errors.  find works, but setup doesn't.  anyone free to help me through this?
[02:25] <Radar> it's been great, see you later
[02:25] <snuitje> meoblast001: so it predates the move to pulseaudio
[02:25] <Farnaby> lifesaver aaaaemsu, promived this worked. Guess I will find out ;)
[02:25] <zsquareplusc> wedgeoflemon: pcm is the "wave" output, where all the digital sounds come out
[02:26] <DasEi> ﻿wedgeoflemon:try it with  the gnome- sound > switches > headphones
[02:26] <nintendork32> how can i find out where MBR is?
[02:26] <meoblast001> snuitje, yes
[02:26] <zerodevice> katiekitty, after i've mounted the cd, what do i type next?
[02:27] <zsquareplusc> wedgeoflemon: the keyboard should work yout of the box. if it isnt try mapping the keys using system->prefs->shortcuts
[02:27] <bonhoffer> o.k. i have scp working pretty well --- quick trival one here: if i type pwd i get the directory string that i can copy, say i want the full string to the file, i.e. /var/lib/mytest.txt is there a command to get this
[02:27] <zerodevice> katiekitty, sorry. im very new to ubuntu and linux
[02:27] <bonhoffer> i end up with two copy operations (pwd and then ls -l and copy the file name) think i can trim this to one copy operation
[02:27] <Arod22> can anyone tell me a good program for recording streaming audio going through my computers speakers?? and exporting it to mp3??
[02:27] <gusto5> im trying to make xsys-2.2.0 but run into errors. can be read here: http://www.pastebin.ca/1265522
[02:27] <Arod22> ?
[02:27] <wedgeoflemon> the keyboard shortcuts to the sound does work, its controlling master volume and showing up on my screen
[02:27] <zsquareplusc> bonhoffer: pwd >file.txt  ?
[02:27] <snuitje> meoblast001: try a failsafe xterm session
[02:27] <wedgeoflemon> it just wont work when i have headphones in
[02:27] <bonhoffer> zsquareplusc, let me try
[02:28] <snuitje> and run metacity in it
[02:28] <KatieKitty> zerodevice: make sure ur did not quoted out the cdrom at the /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:28] <wedgeoflemon> master should control everything right?
[02:28] <Anacranom> how do i enable other protocols on my network connection? i need to enable NwLink-IPX/Spx protocol
[02:28] <zsquareplusc> bonhoffer: ah, learn about the TAB key filename autocomplete :-)
[02:28] <emet> whats a common firewall for linux
[02:28] <meoblast001> snuitje, why?
[02:28] <KatieKitty> zerodevice: then, do a "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" thats all
[02:28] <Arod22> anyone?
[02:28] <DVA5912> Has anyone had success installing photoimpact v10 on ubuntu 8.04?
[02:28] <zsquareplusc> bonhoffer: and.. you can connect to scp servers with nautilius. use sftp:// URLs in the address bar
[02:28] <snuitje> meoblast001: that should make sure nothing else gets in the way
[02:28] <snuitje> and your app can use the alsa device it wants
[02:29] <bonhoffer> oops i just over wrote my file with your command
[02:29] <zerodevice> katiekitty, i only typed "apt-cdrom add /media/cdrom" to mount the cd, then it turns back to the normal input mode waiting for cmd, so i just do a normal apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[02:29] <snuitje> if that works, one of the processes listed in "ps x" is the culprit
[02:29] <gregthe1> Hi guys, when I run this:
[02:29] <gregthe1> $ sudo dpkg --set-selections package.selections && apt-get dselect-upgrade
[02:29] <gregthe1> It gives me this:
[02:29] <gregthe1> dpkg: --set-selections does not take any argument
[02:29] <snuitje> in a normal session that is
[02:29] <FloodBot1> gregthe1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:29] <bonhoffer> zsquareplusc, i'll try nautilus
[02:29] <meoblast001> snuitje, im not on the problem machine right now... its at my dads house.. i just want to figure out how to make it work... or do you want me to try to reproduce it on this machine?
[02:29] <gusto5> im trying to make xsys-2.2.0 but run into errors. can be read here: http://www.pastebin.ca/1265522
[02:29] <snuitje> you _could_ kill em off one by one though that could lead to "interesting" results
[02:29] <macjason0607> can somone pm me please and help me with my problem of not booting into windows ?
[02:29] <KatieKitty> zerodevice: yes
[02:29] <zsquareplusc> gregthe1: feed it from stdin using < or |
[02:30] <bonhoffer> still don't understand how to use tab completion here, start typing /var/lib/myfile.txt and let the tab complete it to get the full path as a text string
[02:30] <gregthe1> zsquareplusc, what do you mean?
[02:30] <snuitje> well if you can get audio at all, then it has to be a process in your gnome session
[02:30] <zsquareplusc> gregthe1: dpkg --set-selections < package.selections
[02:30] <snuitje> i'm even further away from the computer then you, so i can't nail it
[02:30] <zerodevice> katiekitty, thanks, but why do i see some progress or % that looks like its downloading from the net? will it do that or its jsut certain parts is a must to download from the net?
[02:31] <gregthe1> thanks zsquareplusc, I did this: sudo dpkg --set-selections < package.selections && apt-get dselect-upgrade
[02:31] <snuitje> just trying to narrow things down for you -_-
[02:31] <gregthe1> But it said: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[02:31] <gregthe1> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[02:31] <nintendork32> how can i find out where MBR is?
[02:31] <zsquareplusc> gregthe1: sudo only applies to the 1st command not the one after the &&
[02:32] <nintendork32> gregthe1: you may have a synaptic running
[02:32] <zsquareplusc> gregthe1: if you're fed up with typing sudo, try sudo -i (gives a root shell) ;-)
[02:32] <gregthe1> zsquareplusc, Yeah, the was the problem.
[02:32] <snuitje> gregthe1: running apt-get update again never hurts :)
[02:32] <snuitje> use sudo -s
[02:33] <wos> tv
[02:33] <gregthe1> what is apt-get update?
[02:33] <snuitje> fetches the package lists
[02:33] <AAAEMSU> gregthe1, updates your packages
[02:33] <DasEi> my firefox doesn 't start no more, I get a segmentation fault (cmd-line), syslog : http://paste.ubuntu.com/76206/  What to do ?
[02:33] <AAAEMSU> gregthe1, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:33] <snuitje> mv .mozilla .mozilla-b0rk
[02:33] <Dark_Wolf> how do I uninstall a package without using apt?
[02:34] <gregthe1> what is apt-get upgrade
[02:34] <nintendork32> Dark_Wolf: synaptic
[02:34] <AAAEMSU> !apt gregthe1
[02:34] <zsquareplusc> Dark_Wolf: dpkg
[02:34] <nintendork32> Dark_Wolf,  system->administration-> Synaptic Package Manager
[02:34] <Gnea> !apt | gregthe1
[02:35] <AAAEMSU> Ah
[02:35] <Gnea> :)
[02:35] <DasEi> ﻿Dark_Wolf:dpkg maybe (thin r, but see man dpkg)
[02:35] <zerodevice> katiekitty, (T_T) i think it's downloading the package from the net, its not installing from the live CD. how come?
[02:35] <Dark_Wolf> got it.
[02:36] <nintendork32> how can i find out what disk my MBR is?
[02:36] <snuitje> zerodevice: your cdrom should be spinning
[02:36] <nintendork32> in*
[02:36] <nintendork32> how can i find out what disk my MBR is in?
[02:36] <gregthe1> How do I turn off making my window title bars transparent?
[02:36] <snuitje> some packages may have been updated since the iso was built though
[02:36] <snuitje> so it'll download those
[02:36] <KatieKitty> zerodevice: sorry, i was away just now. by the way, is ur cd-rom spinning?
[02:36] <DasEi> ﻿ nintendork32:/boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:37] <gregthe1> When I type in gedit, the title bar has the controls go away
[02:37] <nintendork32> DasEi: i need to know where it is to install grub :\
[02:37] <nintendork32> DasEi, i dont have grub yet
[02:37] <gusto5> http://www.supernovatube.com/play.php?viewkey=c298ab50293adfecb7b1
[02:37] <snuitje> gregthe1: maybe if you disable desktop effects
[02:37] <DasEi> !grub | nintendork32
[02:37] <Ferrous> how do i kill aqualung? it's misbehaving.. but it's icon doesnt show up... but it wont let me run it so i asssume it's that it's already running?
[02:37] <meoblast001> snuitje, what sound systems does Adobe Flash, Rhythmbox, and Songbird support?
[02:37] <gregthe1> snuitje, I want other effects like transparent bash
[02:38] <DasEi> ﻿ nintendork32:follow first link, use find
[02:38] <nintendork32> DasEi, that wont help, i need to know where MBR is
[02:38] <kitche> meoblast001: pulseaudio, alsa,
[02:38] <DasEi> ﻿ nintendork32:look in bios, which is your first hd > mbr
[02:38] <osmosis> why is the Eclipse in ubuntu so freaking old ?
[02:38] <zerodevice> snuitje, and katiekitty, no, the cd-rom is not spinning, instead i saw some lines that looks like http:// archieve.ubuntu or something
[02:39] <kitche> osmosis: probably because it's stable
[02:39] <nintendork32> DasEi: is it always hd0?
[02:39] <DasEi> ﻿ nintendork32:or use a live cd and use gparted
[02:39] <Flannel> osmosis: It has to do with the eclipse version in debian, which has to do with a few other factors.  Jaunty is getting a new version though.
[02:39] <Ferrous> :[
[02:39] <snuitje> flash: iirc that uses osd, you could try gnash that should work well (at least with youtube and the occasional ad / game)
[02:39] <nintendork32> DasEi: that wont help
[02:39] <meoblast001> kitche: can you get a Lexicon Omega to work with alsa? i was told you cant pkill it... what should you pkill if selecting alsa is returning "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback. Device is being used by another application."
[02:39] <snuitje> rhythmbox is gstreamer based, uses esd on 7.10 and pulseaudio on 8.04
[02:40] <osmosis> kitche: its not even supported by the rest of the world.  The eclipse home page is two stable versions ahead.
[02:40] <kitche> meoblast001: no clue I don't even use alsa anymore I just use OSS
[02:40] <meoblast001> snuitje, well.. what am i gonna do to make it work with ALSA
[02:40] <DasEi> ﻿ nintendork32:if you want to boot from mbr, it's always the first disk declared in bios, so every way would show
[02:40] <meoblast001> snuitje, what should i pkill
[02:40] <snuitje> songbird uses gstreamer as well, i don't see any specific support for alsa or oss
[02:40] <meoblast001> if anything at all
[02:40] <nintendork32> DasEi: i'm trying to us grub-install [OPTION] install_device
[02:40] <KatieKitty> zerodevice: did u checked and see if ur /etc/apt/sources.list has listed ur cd-rom as 1 of the apt sources as i told u to check just now?
[02:40] <macjason0607> jrib, you there ?
[02:41] <meoblast001> snuitje, wine is compatible with all ftmp.. except pulse.. and kitche said flash is pulse and alsa only
[02:41] <macjason0607> snuitje, can i pm ?
[02:41] <nintendork32> DasEi: does that mean i should use grub-install hd0?
[02:41] <meoblast001> snuitje, looks like im stuck with alsa
[02:41] <snuitje> zerodevice: ^C will cancel downloading
[02:41] <snuitje> wine doesn't need to support pulseaudio
[02:41] <kitche> meoblast001: well I believe flash on ubuntu has pulseaudio support since you can compile flash with any sound support anymore with libflashsupport.so
[02:41] <snuitje> pulseaudio should work transparent
[02:41] <zerodevice> katiekitty, you mean i have to type "/etc/apt/source.list" ?
[02:42] <nintendork32> DasEi: the find /boot/grub/stage1 always gives me Error 15: file not found then i tried /grub/stage1
[02:42] <zerodevice> snuitje, erm.. i for restart the server and reinstall the server edition again, thought i'd make another fresh start
[02:42] <macjason0607> ok guys .. for some reason i can't boot into my linux .. i looked at menu.lst and it is tottally diffrent i made a menu.lst-backup before this happend and it shows my windows partition .. if i change the menu.lst to match the menu.lst-backup will that help me boot into windows ?
[02:42] <meoblast001> kitche, that was ironic..... the phrases "you can" and "compile flash" dont go together
[02:42] <macjason0607> i can't boot into my windows
[02:42] <netyire> macjason0607: that's great!
[02:42] <DasEi> ﻿ nintendork32:first hd declared in bios is hdo, so yes, unless you change it
[02:42] <tsrk> Why didn't eclipse on ubuntu let me choose my workspace?
[02:42] <macjason0607> netyire, will that help me ?
[02:42] <KatieKitty> zerodevice: "nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and check it
[02:42]  * netyire apologizes
[02:42] <gregthe1> Set the /apps/gwd/metacity_theme_opacity gconf key to 1 to make them fully opaque.
[02:42] <nintendork32> DasEi: i thought its sda
[02:42] <kitche> meoblast001: I never said compile flash I said you can compile libflashsupport.so which is open source
[02:42] <snuitje> macjason0607: please ask technical questions in the channel, pm is for private / confidential things =)
[02:43] <meoblast001> oh
[02:43] <macjason0607> snuitje, if i told my wife she would kill me .. i need some help like right now if you don't mind
[02:43] <meoblast001> well... the problem is... ALSA + Lexicon Omega.... and i still wasnt told what i have to pkill or what i have to do what to to get that error to go away
[02:43] <kitche> meoblast001: it's adobe's way to make everyone happy so they flash can be used with any sound system
[02:43] <DasEi> ﻿ nintendork32:hd is a expression of grub, sdXX is a device-identifier of fstab
[02:43] <zerodevice> katiekitty, thanks
[02:44] <DasEi> ﻿ nintendork32:have a live cd handy ?
[02:44] <osmosis> nothing else is stable in ubuntu...i dont see why they would start with eclipse
[02:44] <nintendork32> DasEi: yeah
[02:45] <netyire> macjason0607: is the problem grub related?
[02:45] <nintendork32> DasEi i could boot it and you walk me through it with irssi
[02:45] <DasEi> ﻿ nintendork32:can you boot it on the relevant machine and come back here; then do so
[02:45] <macjason0607> netyire, i can't see my windows partition in grub
[02:45] <nintendork32> ok brb
[02:45] <DasEi> ﻿ nintendork32:pidgin is onboard, I think
[02:45] <DasEi> *pidgin
[02:46] <ZeZu> shouldn't find . -name *.cpp -exec echo >> \;  add a newline to all .cpp files in current dir ?
[02:46] <bonhoffer> is there a way to see if my Plantronics DSP 500 headset is working in 8.10?
[02:46] <macjason0607> netyire, i have a menu.lst and a menu.lst-backup i made .. menu.lst-backup has my windows thing in there
[02:46] <bonhoffer> easy sound/device test
[02:46] <ZeZu> or  find . -name *.cpp -exec echo >> '{}' \; ?
[02:46] <snuitje> macjason0607: copy the lines from the backup starting from "title         windows blabla" to the actual menu.lst
[02:46] <meoblast001> kitche: does libflashsupport make a Lexicon Omega work with ALSA?
[02:46] <macjason0607> ok
[02:46] <macjason0607> snuitje, then reboot ?
[02:46] <snuitje> meoblast001: don't think so...
[02:47] <meoblast001> next package
[02:47] <meoblast001> i suggest we move to libc6
[02:47] <meoblast001> lol
[02:47] <snuitje> meoblast001: if you get a device in use error, it has to be another process holding it hostage
[02:47] <meoblast001> snuitje, how do i get that when i select ALSA
[02:47] <meoblast001> or... how do i fix that from happening when i select ALSA
[02:47] <snuitje> meoblast001: killing it off releases the handle so that's why apps can subsequently use it without error
[02:47] <zerodevice> katiekitty, what should i be looking inside the source.list?
[02:47] <bonhoffer> this is wierd, because my sound controller on my headset brings up a pop-up which shows some volume changing
[02:47] <meoblast001> snuitje, you said i cant kill ALSA
[02:47] <bonhoffer> so some of the drivers must be recognized . . .
[02:48] <macjason0607> snuitje, ok done do i reboot ?
[02:48] <bonhoffer> but a video on github gives no sound . . .
[02:48] <snuitje> macjason0607: well yeah if the menu.lst looks good then sure
[02:48] <macjason0607> ok
[02:48] <macjason0607> brb
[02:48] <bonhoffer> so basically, what is a way to ensure sound is being sent to my headset?
[02:49] <snuitje> you can only send signals to processes
[02:49] <snuitje> if there is no process named "alsa" (and there isn't on ubuntu) you cant signal it
[02:50] <meoblast001> snuitje, then what are we pkilling then?
[02:50] <snuitje> i suggested to kill esd
[02:50] <Xcerca> whats the powerpoint equivliant in open office ?
[02:50] <snuitje> last time i checked it uses oss
[02:50] <snuitje> and the oss emulation layer doesn't share (by default)
[02:51] <KatieKitty> zerodevice: check for this "# deb cdrom: " and delete the "#"
[02:51] <zsquareplusc> Xcerca: ooimpress
[02:51] <zerodevice> katiekitty, thanks
[02:51] <Dark_Wolf> I'm using gnome-ppp, but after I connect, none of my programs detect a working internet connection
[02:51] <snuitje> i think oss can be forced to go through a software mixer using a .asoundrc but you should google that to be sure
[02:51] <bonhoffer> so is there a better room to setting up hardware with ubuntu -- ubuntu-hardware or something, where folks might know about adding a headset
[02:52] <macjason0> guys it worked ... im in windows .. how does the menu.lst get messed up ?
[02:52] <zerodevice> katiekitty, so once i delete it then i reboot? or just type the apt-get install thing
[02:52] <KatieKitty> zerodevice: straight go on with "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[02:52] <Xcerca> ﻿zsquareplusc is that compatible with powerpoint, i have to give a speech in windows
[02:53] <zerodevice> kaitekitty, thanks.
[02:53] <snuitje> impress can export to pdf as well
[02:53] <snuitje> that should work on any OS
[02:53] <sudobash> is there a fix or a way to force a background to be displayed?
[02:53] <zsquareplusc> Xcerca: yes, too some extent. you could export the slides as PDS as a backup solution if the ppt fails
[02:53] <zsquareplusc> Xcerca: i mean PDF
[02:53] <Xcerca> cool , thanks
[02:54] <snuitje> and there's portable openoffice.org
[02:54] <snuitje> www.portableapps.com
[02:54] <cellofellow> I can't read my DVD drive. I put a disk in and it continually tries to read but I can't access or anything.
[02:54] <bonhoffer> i am not even sure if this is a hardware issue -- looks like i just need to os to send sound to my headset -- might be working perfectly for all i know . . .
[02:54] <meoblast001> snuitje, so no way to use ALSA?
[02:55] <bonhoffer> anyone use a usb headset with ubuntu 8.10
[02:55] <bonhoffer> any hope of this working -- i think i am so close . . .
[02:55] <Dark_Wolf> I'm using gnome-ppp, but after I connect, none of my programs detect a working internet connection
[02:55] <Dark_Wolf> anyone have a reason?
[02:56] <meoblast001> well.. i'll figure it out when i have the hardware in front of me.... but the broadcom bcm4306... any way to get that to run faster or as fast as it does on windows... goes very slwo
[02:56] <bonhoffer> i think there is hope in that clicking on my volume switch shows a volume change in my computer
[02:56] <musikgoat|main> Dark_Wolf: do you have an ip address?  check in ifconfig
[02:56] <snuitje> meoblast001: you sortof have to use alsa, unless you like to port oss to the ubuntu kernel
[02:56] <bonhoffer> anyone have a minute?
[02:56] <Dark_Wolf> musikgoat|main, I have an IP
[02:56] <Dark_Wolf> had an IP*
[02:56] <meoblast001> snuitje, theres no such thing as an ubuntu kernel... its called linux kernel =P
[02:56] <nintendork87> DasEi: hey im on thhe live disk
[02:56] <musikgoat|main> Dark_Wolf: can you ping out? like 64.233.167.99?
[02:56] <nintendork87> DasEi: may i PM you?
[02:57] <snuitje> the kernel in ubuntu is not the stock linux kernel
[02:57] <DasEi> ﻿ nintendork32:yes, please
[02:57] <meoblast001> oh
[02:57] <Dark_Wolf> I can ping myself
[02:57] <Dark_Wolf> nothing else
[02:57] <snuitje> but its otherwise just linux yes
[02:57] <sudobash> my friend has lost his wallpaper and was wondering if he could find it again... Ubuntu 8.10
[02:57] <meoblast001> snuitje, so i just have to toy around with the pkill when im on the problem system and see what happens?
[02:57] <bonhoffer> how do i get to device manager from the command prompt
[02:57] <musikgoat|main> Dark_Wolf: then i think your connection is not connected, imo... but i'm not a ppp expert
[02:58] <Dark_Wolf> it said it was connected
[02:58] <Dark_Wolf> made all the tones
[02:58] <snuitje> or run "ps x" and kill the processes off by number
[02:58] <Dark_Wolf> but then... nothing worked
[02:58] <Dark_Wolf> and I kept getting errors in the terminal
[02:58] <Dark_Wolf> GTK errors
[02:58] <tritium> !enter | Dark_Wolf
[02:58] <snuitje> you could see all sorts of funneh behaviour when you do that in a gnome session
[02:58] <musikgoat|main> Dark_Wolf: sometimes thats not a big deal
[02:58] <tritium> Dark_Wolf: does "ifconfig" show a valid IP address?  Does /etc/resolv.conf show DNS servers from your PPP service provider?
[02:58] <Dark_Wolf> They were critical errors
[02:59] <zsquareplusc> Dark_Wolf: write down some IP numbers so that you can try to ping by IP. sometimes its the DNS that is badly setup (DSN does name->IP translation)
[02:59] <Dark_Wolf> tritium, couldn't tell you right now...
[02:59] <meoblast001> snuitje, k thanx... i'll try that when im on my dads system.... but he aslo complained "do you call this faster than windows... webpages are loading slow"... in other words... his broadcom bcm 4306 using ndiswrapper is running much slower than it does in windows
[02:59] <meoblast001> snuitje, any native drivers?
[02:59] <tritium> Dark_Wolf: these are initial things you should check
[02:59] <Dark_Wolf> tritium, I'm not connected, obviously, since I'm on this system
[02:59] <snuitje> maybe, but you might need to use fwcutter to extract firmware from the installation cd
[02:59] <tritium> Dark_Wolf: obviously, but you need to check those out on that system when you can
[02:59] <Buster_Hymen> i'm getting an error message that a theme cannot be deleted?  Is there a workaround or is there really no way to remove this icon theme?
[03:00] <Dark_Wolf> mmkay
[03:00] <Dark_Wolf> I will now
[03:00] <musikgoat|main> Dark_Wolf: nothings obvious, we don't know your setup completely
[03:00] <meoblast001> snuitje, what is fwcutter?
[03:01] <tommitek> hi folks...I have a Toshiba laptop upgraded to Intrepid which fails to boot past "cs: IO port probe 0x3e0-0x4ff"  Appears to be a pcmcia bug
[03:01] <sudobash> my friend has lost his wallpaper and was wondering if he could find it again... Ubuntu 8.10
[03:01] <snuitje> it cuts the firmware right out of the windows installer (well sortof)
[03:01] <tommitek> any ideas?
[03:01] <snuitje> a nice fellow wrote an article on the wiki that explains things: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy
[03:02] <Jordan_U> I can't seem to resolve any domains at the moment, could someone please tell me the ip for openDNS?
[03:02] <snuitje> btw, at least on hardy there's midori which is based on webkit, which might render pages faster then gecko
[03:02] <snuitje> ymmv
[03:02] <musikgoat|main> Jordan_U: 208.67.222.222 and 220.220
[03:02] <meoblast001> snuitje, nice..... well i gotta get a shower.. thanx for the help... i'll try it out when i get on that system... and hopefully it works so my dad doesnt give up on ubuntu.. he's giving it another chance if i can set it up right
[03:02] <zerodevice> snuitje, just wondering, in the "nano", after i've edited the text, how do i save and exit? i only saw ^X which i dont think it happens by typing the char ^X
[03:03] <Jordan_U> musikgoat|main: Thanks
[03:03] <snuitje> ^ means press control
[03:03] <echinos> I get a lot of "device or resource busy" with my sound on ibex... I'm not sure what in particular is hanging it, lsof doesn't seem to show anything using /dev/dsp
[03:03] <echinos> unless I'm using it wrong...
[03:03] <snuitje> it's like ctrl+x
[03:03] <zerodevice> snuitje, thanks. so it save on exit?
[03:03] <tsrk> Why didn't eclipse on ubuntu let me choose my workspace?
[03:03] <snuitje> ctrl+o
[03:04] <zerodevice> snuitje, CTRL+O is save, CTRL+X is exit?
[03:04] <snuitje> yep
[03:04] <gopp> !openfreeway
[03:04] <bonhoffer> so, looking for an honest helper, why does my "how do i get my usb headset working" question suck so much?
[03:04] <zerodevice> snuitje, thanks
[03:04] <gopp> anyone gotten open freeway installed in ubuntu
[03:04] <gopp> or gdlib
[03:04] <gopp> bonhoffer which type, headset what company, who makes it
[03:05] <musikgoat|main> zerodevice: in nano, if you attempt to exit an edited document, it will also prompt you to save, if you wish
[03:05] <snuitje> going after the bastards who made the hardware? :)
[03:05] <tritium> snuitje: keep it family-friendly, please
[03:05] <bonhoffer> gopp, plantronics dsp 500
[03:05] <gopp> !gdlib
[03:05] <bonhoffer> running ubuntu 8.10
[03:05] <ZeZu> are there no packages for older versions of gcc anymore in ubuntu repos?  ie: 3.x versions ?
[03:06] <snuitje> what
[03:06] <gopp> bonhoffer so then you can ask has any one BLAH , on BAH ubujntu
[03:06] <tritium> gopp: you know you can /msg ubottu, right?  Better to investigate that way.
[03:06] <bonhoffer> it might be working -- no sound that i can hear, but i don't know how to direct sound to a device
[03:06] <hmw_> snuitje: good idea (didnt read, what you were relating to) - i wanna find some hardware designers, too
[03:06] <zsquareplusc> ZeZu: i see gcc-3.4 as package
[03:06] <ZeZu> hmm, apt-cache isn't finding it,,, weird
[03:06] <gopp> so bonhoffer "has anyone gotten plantronics dsp 500, on ubuntu 8.10?"
[03:07] <bonhoffer> o.k. thanks, still learning how to get help here . . . hitting the volume switch causes a pop-up on screen . . . so drivers must be doing something . . .
[03:07] <zsquareplusc> ZeZu: add universe repos
[03:07] <osmosis> how do I force a game (Quake Wars) to open on a single screen - not in the middle of my dual screens.
[03:08] <zerodevice> kaitekitty, erm.. something is wrong
[03:08] <snuitje> bonhoffer: run gstreamer-properties
[03:08] <bonhoffer> has anyone gotten plantronics dsp 500, on ubuntu 8.10? google has information on older versions that supposedly worked
[03:08] <zerodevice> katiekitty, i've del the # inside nano for all cdrom, but then i noticed some of them are ubuntu-server.
[03:08] <tritium> bonhoffer: you can stop repeating for a while, please
[03:09] <zerodevice> katiekitty, and should i add # on whatever that is with the "archieve"?
[03:09] <snuitje> zerodevice: no problem, if it cant find the cd in the drive, it'll ask you to insert the right disk
[03:09] <bonhoffer> snuitje, thanks -- now i am at least getting somewhere
[03:09] <KatieKitty> zerodevice: just leave it and try
[03:12] <bonhoffer> first i get lots of gstreamer-properties-Message: Skipping unavailable plugin 'artsdsink' errors then the test kind of works -- sound is coming from my pc, but i can control the volume with my headset controller
[03:13] <snuitje> you can safely ignore that message
[03:13] <bonhoffer> plugin options are cryptic (" ALSA, OSS, etc")
[03:13] <zerodevice> snuitje, katiekitty, well this is what i did. after i taken away all the # from the cdrom, and i save and exit, then i do the apt-get install thing, then it asked me to put in a server cd becoz i already put in the desktop cd. then it loads like normal progress then i shows the my.archieve thing agan
[03:13] <bonhoffer> snuitje, o.k. thanksa
[03:13] <zerodevice> i am worried that i might have made the wrong move
[03:13] <nvti> zerodevice: all you did was tell it to search the CD for packages instead of an online repository
[03:14] <snuitje> alsa==linux audio layer, good oss==old-skool audio layer, bad =)
[03:14] <snuitje> zerodevice: lol, it should ask the desktop cd too
[03:14] <bonhoffer> good -- so how do i abstract this to (headset versus pc speakers)
[03:14] <wos> can anyone help me with IVTV
[03:14] <julero> hi all
[03:15] <manlymat_83> I just installed 7.10 for the second time, and for some reason, booting was taking about 6-7 minutes.  I ended up having to edit the usplash.conf file and menu.1st with a few things (such as vga=7xx) to get it to boot quickly.  This bothers me though as my original installation of 7.10 worked fine and I had no problems.  Should I reinstall it again or do you guys think it was just a fluke?
[03:15] <julero> i have a question about apt-get
[03:15] <snuitje> zerodevice: maybe if you copy the deb files to a local directory and add it with apt-file /path/to/debs ./
[03:15] <wos> i cant get my card working with IVTV
[03:15] <nvti> julero: ask
[03:15] <snuitje> perhaps run dpkg-scandirectory . >Packages as well
[03:15] <fushorts> is there a reason i cant listen to music while playing games?  cant the sound mixer multitask?
[03:16] <snuitje> does the game use oss?
[03:16] <fushorts> teeworlds
[03:16] <julero> ok i think i screwed up while getting other repositories on my sources.list... i added new packages from a different server and now i have an error when starting the xserver
[03:16] <snuitje> never heard of
[03:16] <fushorts> hrmm
[03:16] <bonhoffer> snuitje, dpkg-scandirectory for me?
[03:16] <zerodevice> snuitje, erm.. copy?
[03:16] <julero> is there a way to roll back?
[03:17] <snuitje> bonhoffer: no that's for zerodevice
[03:17] <fushorts> it just lets me change sample rate and volume
[03:17] <fushorts> not sure what it uses
[03:17] <BusterHymen> is it possible to change the colors of a theme's window border?
[03:17] <snuitje> zerodevice: yes... like mkdir /var/tmp/debs
[03:17] <mitsos> hi ppl
[03:17] <fushorts> but i have this problem with all games so i doubt it is a game problem
[03:18] <snuitje> then cp /path/to/debs/on/the/cdrom/* /var/tmp/debs/
[03:18] <bonhoffer> got it
[03:18] <bonhoffer> snuitje, any thoughts on how i can send sound to my headset vs pc?
[03:18] <bonhoffer> snuitje, or vise-versa
[03:19] <snuitje> in gstreamer-properties, look for a box labelled "device" under "Default Output"
[03:19] <snuitje> that should allow you to select the default audio device
[03:19] <zerodevice> sighs.... i thought itd be easier with a live cd but it seems like its easier to wait 22h for the installing
[03:20] <julero> any ideas?
[03:20] <snuitje> or just install the live cd and then install server on it
[03:20] <snuitje> server has a lot less packages
[03:20] <bonhoffer> snuitje, thanks
[03:20] <snuitje> the only biggie is linux-server
[03:21] <bonhoffer> o.k. the device box is disabled with unsupported as the button text.
[03:21] <zerodevice> well, i initially wanted to just install server then install gui for the server. so i thought it'd be easier if i use the live cd. but i dont know where it went wrong. and what u thought me should be working. sighs
[03:22] <onats> !postgres
[03:22] <onats> !pg
[03:22] <zual> helloo
[03:23] <julero> so anything on the rollback after apt-get update?
[03:23] <snuitje> remove the extra repos from sources.list, then try apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg
[03:24] <julero> ok thanks
[03:24] <snuitje> or try removing the lot in aptitude
[03:24] <snuitje> then install ubuntu-desktop
[03:24] <julero> ok  i will
[03:24] <iamjay> Hi uhrm is there any console based translation tool????? :S
[03:24] <julero> thanks for the tip
[03:25] <zetheroo> anyone know how to backup a truecrypt volume?
[03:25] <snuitje> copy it
[03:25] <musikgoat|main> zetheroo: dd
[03:25] <DasEi> ﻿ zetheroo:parti crypted or container ?
[03:25] <DasEi> *parti
[03:25] <zetheroo> musikgoat|main: dd?
[03:25] <musikgoat|main> !dd
[03:26] <zerodevice> snuitje, u mean i had to reinstall the xserver-xorg?
[03:26] <zetheroo> DasEi: encrypted volume made in Ubuntu with Truecrypt (Easycrype GUI)
[03:26] <snuitje> if that's the broken package then yes
[03:26] <musikgoat|main> arg, zetheroo you can man dd,  its a bit for bit copying tool, if your truecrypt is a whole partition
[03:26] <zetheroo> musikgoat|main: no ... just a volume ....
[03:27] <DasEi> ﻿ zetheroo: see man dd then, could also tar the parti, then cp the zip/bz file
[03:27] <BusterHymen> is there a repository for songbird?
[03:27] <bonhoffer> snuitje, what would be next steps since my gstreamer device properties is disabled with unsupported as the button tex
[03:27] <zetheroo> DasEi: I am just unsure of what files and floders I need to copy...
[03:27] <DasEi> ﻿BusterHymen:apt-cache search songbird
[03:27] <zetheroo> folders
[03:27] <zetheroo> *
[03:27] <zerodevice> ok. but i was wondering, why didnt the cd spin and why did it ignore after the deb line for cdrom is right before the http://my.archieve ?
[03:28] <snuitje> julero: seems like you can apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop as well, don't know if that fixes it for ya
[03:28] <DasEi> ﻿ zetheroo:is it a whole drive or just a partition ?
[03:28] <BusterHymen> DasEi:  i just did aptitude search songbird and got nothing. is apt-cache different?
[03:28] <sudobash> where is the wallpaper plugin for Compiz Config Settings Manager
[03:28] <zerodevice> i thought after i mounted the cd and it should have know where to get the package to install
[03:28] <musikgoat|main> BusterHymen: no
[03:28] <zerodevice> or could it be that my desktop live cd does not have the packager needed?
[03:28] <DasEi> ﻿BusterHymen:no, its just the gui-way
[03:28] <zetheroo> DasEi: neither ... just a volume .. I don't think its an actual partition ...
[03:28] <BusterHymen> so that means it's not in the universe?
[03:29] <snuitje> BusterHymen: i think getdeb has some debs
[03:29] <DasEi> ﻿ zetheroo:so not a volume, but a container, so-a-called truecrypt volume > cp it
[03:29] <dethdol> ne1 know how to run virtual box?
[03:29] <BusterHymen> snuitje:  yeah i might have to do that... but debs aren't automatically updated are they?
[03:29] <ubuntu> i have a hard drive mounted but some files are locked, i know the user name and password. how would i unlock/gain access to these folders?
[03:29] <zetheroo> DasEi: yes ... container ... all I do is copy the one file?
[03:30] <zetheroo> DasEi: no config files?
[03:30] <DasEi> ﻿ zetheroo: yes
[03:30] <musikgoat|main> BusterHymen: check getdeb for a repo, then it will
[03:30] <n8tuser> zerodevice-> yes, unless you have the dvd (has more packages) than the livecd
[03:30] <snuitje> BusterHymen: nope
[03:30] <DasEi> ﻿ zetheroo: yes, just the file  whatfile.tc
[03:30] <BusterHymen> musikgoat|main:  i'm not following you.  Do you mean there's a getdeb repository?
[03:30] <snuitje> getdeb has a proper repo?
[03:30] <zerodevice> n8tuser, well if that's the case then it explains why no matter where i tell it to take the package from the cd it will not work.
[03:30] <zetheroo> DasEi: thanks
[03:31] <candive> Hi all, Is there an open source map to replace Garmin Maps?
[03:31] <DasEi> ﻿ zetheroo: np
[03:31] <snuitje> http://www.openstreetmap.org/
[03:31] <candive> snuitje, thanks
[03:31] <musikgoat|main> BusterHymen: if there is one, then you can update through there, but i'm not seeing one at first glance
[03:31] <BusterHymen> yeah neither am i
[03:32] <zsquareplusc> candive: that url from snuitje and mkgmap to convert the data
[03:32] <zerodevice> anyway, n8tuser, katiekitty, snuitje, thanks for the help, i've learned a lot, and i think i will be waiting for 22hrs for the installing.
[03:32] <n8tuser> zerodevice-> you have the base system installed?
[03:33] <|TJ|> what can i use to play a streaming audio
[03:33] <DasEi> ﻿ zetheroo: there are two things to have in mind : you can mostly (always) open container of older tc-versions with newer versions, stimes have to rebuild container for performance, also win-ones are read by both, win und ubu,  ubu's stimes block on win
[03:34] <snuitje> zerodevice: any packages you'd want to use on ubuntu-server work just the same on a desktop install
[03:34] <snuitje> there's no difference at all
[03:34] <zerodevice> nt8user, yes the based is installed.
[03:34] <zetheroo> DasEi: cool thanks man
[03:34] <snuitje> it's just the default package selection that's different
[03:35] <zerodevice> snuitje, hmm... i thought the desktop edition is less efficient compare to server edition?
[03:35] <snuitje> if all you want is a server somewhere that's used only over the network, then yes
[03:35] <zerodevice> im just not used to linux yet, but i am willing to adapt to linux. so i guess i need some time on this.
[03:36] <LinuxJunke> help with linksys usb wireless adapter WUSB54GSC
[03:36] <snuitje> still if you install linux-server you get a linux build optimised for server tasks and it'll perform well
[03:36] <zerodevice> snuitje, ah ok. but still thanks. im going to use the safe way to deal with this for now.
[03:36] <jcmcbeth> What would be a good channel to ask why my iptables based nat setup no longer works after I ran firestart even though it's turned off?
[03:37] <snuitje> tried echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward ?
[03:37] <onats> !tomcat
[03:37] <onats> where does tomcat get stored when isntalling from apt-get?
[03:37] <candive> zsquareplusc, sorry what do you mean
[03:37] <snuitje> dpkg -L tomcat
[03:38] <ubuntu> im on a live cd and have attached a hard drive with a pata to usb cable, it mounts but i cannot access some files(permissions), i know user name/pass, how would i gain access? i want my firefox bookmarks/etc
[03:38] <onats> there we go.. thanks snuitje!
[03:38] <zerodevice> exit
[03:38] <Peter_G> I'm having some problems watching movies on my Ubuntu laptop.  The disc in question is a home-burned one, so no CSS on it.  The drive is an external.  When I plug it into other machines, with USB 1.1 or 2.0, a 3G CPU or a 950Mhz CPU, Windows or Linux, I can watch the video fine.  But the laptop with Ubuntu, the picture rarely changes, audio runs, and it doesn't start at the menu.  Is there something in the settings, like for Totem, that will enable 
[03:38] <Peter_G> d GPU, if that makes any difference, with 600M of memory.)
[03:38] <musikgoat|main> jcmcbeth: there is an #iptables channel if you don't get your answers here
[03:39] <jcmcbeth> snuitje: well, even with sudo when I run that it says permission denied, but i've used sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
[03:39] <mon^rch> can someone point me to the faq on how to make wine apps look like winxp?
[03:39] <justin_> how do i install directx 9c with wine under ubuntu
[03:39] <DasEi> my firefox doesn 't start no more, I get a segmentation fault (cmd-line), syslog : http://paste.ubuntu.com/76206/  What to do ?
[03:40] <snuitje> jcmcbeth: allright -_-
[03:40] <snuitje> justin_: please don't
[03:40] <usser> justin_, you don't. wine emulates whatever it can from directx. no need to install anything
[03:40] <DasEi> justin_: haven't tried myself, but think d/l the *.exe and install with wine, also see :
[03:40] <DasEi> !wine
[03:41] <justin_> i thought i needed it for COD4
[03:41] <DasEi> justin_: I think for complicated apps should consider a vm
[03:41] <snuitje> check http://appdb.winehq.org/
[03:41] <musikgoat|main> DasEi: you can try moving .mozilla in your home dir to .mozilla-bak  and then re-trying firefox
[03:41] <sudobash> gconf does have a background set but it will not show up... compiz has one set but it wont show either... I click to disable the wallpaper when a Remote Desktop user connects and it disabled it all together
[03:42] <DasEi> ﻿musikgoat|main:did already, no success
[03:42] <DasEi> *did
[03:43] <sudobash> he says that it shows up when the desktop first comes on and then it goes away when the icons show up
[03:45] <mahdialsholi_> i
[03:45] <mahdialsholi_> hi all
[03:45] <bazhang> mahdialsholi_, hello
[03:45] <mahdialsholi_> hi
[03:46] <mahdialsholi_> hi bazhing
[03:46] <snuitje> sudobash: gconftool-2 -s /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop --type bool false
[03:47] <bouma> whats jaunty going to have for the xserver ??
[03:48] <Flannel> bouma: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty questions, thanks.
[03:48] <mahdialsholi_> hi
[03:48] <mahdialsholi_> all
[03:48] <bouma> is there any way to get 'frame-perfect' xwindows at the moment.. ?
[03:48] <Flannel> mahdialsholi_: Did you have a support question?
[03:48] <bouma> like does kde4 do it
[03:48] <bouma> can i do it with gnome ?
[03:48] <aegis> Has anyone managed to get network-manager-openvpn to work properly yet?  My setup will only get me lan access, and web browsing is broke...  I believe it is messing up the routing tables.  However, openvpn via cli works fine.. so it's a problem with the plugin.
[03:48] <bouma> is it possible with the separation of the wm and apps
[03:49] <ZeZu> err i found the 3.4 gcc but i really dont see a 3.x g++ version :|
[03:50] <Trevkor> I hate to interrupt, but I'm having some issues with 8.10 and my nVidia graphics card. I'm not sure if this is the place to ask, but I'd love it if someone could help me out.
[03:51] <snuitje> whats up
[03:51] <sudobash> gconftool-2 -s /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop --type bool false what did this do beside change a value?
[03:51] <helpplz> im on a live cd and have attached a hard drive with a pata to usb cable, it mounts but i cannot access some files(files like .mozzilla), i know the user/pass, how would i gain access? i want my firefox bookmarks/etc
[03:51] <sudobash> it didn't show up stil....
[03:51] <LinuxJunke> everyone is having problems with 8.10 trash it reinstall 8.04
[03:51] <LinuxJunke> 8.10 is very lame
[03:51] <bazhang> LinuxJunke, what do you mean
[03:52] <Trevkor> So, I was running 8.04, but just upgraded to 8.10 . Did a clean install, but now when it should go to the login screen, I heard the sound for it, but it stays black.
[03:52] <bazhang> LinuxJunke, if you have a support question, please ask
[03:52] <snuitje> 8.10 runs great on my eeepc
[03:52] <Trevkor> I've booted to recovery mode and downloaded all the 177 drivers, and nvidia-kernel-common, etc, but none of it really helps.
[03:52] <sudobash> running well over here but my friends wallpaper is gone
[03:52] <LinuxJunke> Having issues with getting a Linksys USB wireless card WUSB54GSC too work on 8.04 Anyone have any suggestions?
[03:52] <sudobash> didnt happen to me
[03:52] <Trevkor> Unless I go from the root terminal and init 5, I can't even get to a GUI, but when I do that, when I get the drivers and such, it doesn't actually use them when I reboot.
[03:53] <bazhang> LinuxJunke, what chipset
[03:53] <LinuxJunke> on the adapteR?
[03:53] <LinuxJunke> or the pc motherboard
[03:54] <snuitje> init 5? 2 is good enough -_-
[03:54] <bazhang> LinuxJunke, on the wireless device
[03:54] <LinuxJunke> not sure yet still trying to update the system will get back to you bazhang here in a few
[03:54] <Trevkor> Heh. Well, even that works in a low resolution mode, but when I get all the things I should need, when I reboot, it simply loads to a "black/blank" login screen.
[03:54] <snuitje> hm, try disabling usplash
[03:54] <LinuxJunke> are you gonna be on here for a bit yet?
[03:55] <snuitje> when you see press esc for menu 3..2..1.. press esc
[03:55] <Trevkor> Okay. That's what I did to get to the root terminal.
[03:55] <snuitje> then press 'e' to go to edit mode, then edit the line with linux initrd=bla root=bla quiet splash
[03:55] <snuitje> remove splash
[03:55] <snuitje> then press 'b' to boot
[03:55] <Trevkor> Alright.
[03:55] <Trevkor> I appreciate it. I'm gonna try that, I'll be right back snuitje.
[03:56] <sudobash> i need to force wallpaper back please someone
[03:56] <candive> 8.10 runs great on my toshiba p100ma2
[03:56] <snuitje> xsetroot -solid red
[03:57] <devin> hey guys
[03:57] <NiKofTime> Hello devin
[03:57] <devin> i dunno how to dbl space in lyx
[03:57] <snuitje> lemme check...
[03:57] <devin> like i got setspace.sty
[03:58] <devin> and i put it in a setspace folder like all the other .sty 's
[03:58] <devin> but it doesn't work
[03:58] <devin> and i've been trying to figure it out all night instead of doing my grant proposal
[03:58] <devin> so i'm kind of screwed
[03:58] <Jagged> Agreed!
[03:58] <Jagged> I enjoy the work so its all good. Once in a while I feel it important to spend a day at home doing some things with the family or at least being in the house with them. I usually just screw that up and Tracy ends up asking me when I'm going back to work.
[03:59] <bazhang> Jagged, wrong channel
[03:59] <devin> so anybody know how to fix lyx
[04:00] <antz-chillihack> test
[04:00] <brujo> hi
[04:00] <antz-chillihack> hi too
[04:01] <Trevkor> snuitje, there were no lines that had splash in them.  I've tried clean installing 8.10 two times over, and it's still doing this.   when I init 5 or init 2 my way into the GUI, I try to get the drivers and such, as I said. I tell it to activate the 177 driver, and it says to reboot. I reboot, and nothing happens, and it says that it's not activated
[04:01] <darksifer> hi everyone can someone help me install ubuntu on a umpc gigabyte u60. i have been trying since yesterday and i cant. plz help me out
[04:01] <snuitje> Trevkor: the lines may have been truncated
[04:01] <brujo> any method to set baurate in c++ to serial port?
[04:02] <hell_fire> Is there a quick way to make your own host IP? I notice some people manage to have their own custom names...
[04:02] <snuitje> and you're installing pretty fast btw
[04:02] <Trevkor> I mean I've reinstalled it twice before coming here.
[04:02] <brujo> how to set baud rate for serial port
[04:02] <snuitje> ohes
[04:02] <brujo> in C++
[04:02] <hell_fire> dmsuperman, you go to OSU?
[04:03] <Flannel> brujo: ##C++
[04:03] <Trevkor> And the only person I know that has any skill with Linux wants me to learn how to do it myself, which makes sense, but I'm really just stuck here.
[04:03] <dmsuperman> hell_fire: Eh, no...
[04:03] <kevin_> anyone know how i can hide the join/part messages in irssi?
[04:03] <dmsuperman> hell_fire: #ubuntu-offtopic for that sort of question though
[04:03] <hell_fire> k
[04:03] <hell_fire> dmsuperman, but my real question was about custom host IP names?
[04:04] <dmsuperman> hell_fire: See #freenode
[04:04] <hell_fire> cool
[04:04] <dmsuperman> !alias | hell_fire
[04:04] <ardchoille> kevin_: it's possible, but I forget how, try #irssi
[04:04] <dmsuperman> Gah
[04:04] <Flannel> kevin_: /ignore -channels #chan * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[04:04] <dmsuperman> hell_fire: You want to ask them about hostmask
[04:04] <Trevkor> snuitje: So, any idea besides just doing a clean install of 8.04?
[04:04] <snuitje> Trevkor: ok lets start from the beginnng
[04:04] <hell_fire> okay
[04:04] <snuitje> Trevkor: under X, in a terminal (xterm/gnome-terminal/whatever), run glxinfo|grep direct
[04:06] <Trevkor> snuitje: Quite a few "extension 'GLX' missing on display ':0.0' " messages, with an "Error: couldn't find RGB GLXX visual or fbconfig" message
[04:06] <Trevkor> * GLX
[04:07] <snuitje> hm, just to check if glx is explicitly disabled, try cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep glx
[04:07] <ott0> if [ -z "$NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS" ]; then         what does -z do?
[04:07] <Trevkor> snuitje:  Nothing happened.
[04:07] <snuitje> ok thats good
[04:08] <ott0> check for variable existence?
[04:08] <LinuxJunke> Ralink 2573 chipset
[04:08] <faryshta> someone has tried the beta of xfce 4.6?
[04:08] <snuitje> man test
[04:08] <HxC_> hello
[04:09] <LinuxJunke> -bazhang
[04:09] <HxC_> how yo using the lpr command line???
[04:09] <HxC_> its cannot work on terminal
[04:09] <Trevkor> snuitje: What of it? It brings up the man pages for the test command
[04:09] <LinuxJunke> -BAZHANG ITS Ralink 2573 chipseT
[04:09] <HxC_> any solutiom
[04:09] <snuitje> Trevkor: sorry, was meant for ott0
[04:10] <Trevkor> snuitje:  Ah, sorry. It's all good.
[04:10] <snuitje> Trevkor: dpkg --get-selections|grep nvidia
[04:10] <HxC_> Hxc NEEDED HELP
[04:10] <snuitje> install cupsys-bsd
[04:11] <n8tuser> HxC_-> man lpr
[04:12] <Trevkor> snuitje: nvidia-173-modaliases; nvidia-177-kernel-source; nvidia-177-modaliases; nvidia-71-modaliases; nvidia-96-modaliases; nvidia-common; nvidia-glx-177; nvidia-kernel-common; nvidia-settings
[04:12] <Trevkor>   All have Install beside them
[04:12] <hypyrbole> wyrd (calendar package) tells me to configure an editor in ~/.wyrdc. That file uses the $EDITOR variable. I have set that variable to nano, and echo $EDITOR returns nano. What am I doing wrong? Any help appreciated.
[04:12] <snuitje> where do those numbers come from?
[04:12] <Trevkor> snuitje: Are you talking to me?
[04:12] <corky`> Distro: Ubuntu 8.04; Problem: my nvidia drivers (nvidia-glx) are a bit ffed up, I can't play openGL games anymore, (doom3, quake4, armagetron advanced, etc.)... Output (of the games) all end in something like "BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
[04:13] <corky`> Sys_Error: Unable to initialize OpenGL" (without qoutes), So, Can anybody halp me?
[04:13] <corky`> Oh, Vid Card: NVidia GeForce Go 6100
[04:13] <sudobash> so anyone know how to force background to show?
[04:13] <snuitje> Trevkor: just thinking "out loud", are you running 8.10?
[04:13] <ott0> thanks snuitje
[04:13] <Trevkor> snuitje: Yeah. I used the init 2 to get to a low res GUI. I'm trying to get 8.10 to work. Worse case scenario I'll go back to 8.04, but I'd rather learn how to get this to work
[04:14] <snuitje> yw ott0, Trevkor: np, lemme unfold my eee
[04:15] <Trevkor> snuitje: I really appreciate it. I'm in the IT field, but I'm just getting started, so I'm trying to learn Linux as I go. I just had to get like 10 SunBlade150s running Solaris 10, and that was interesting, but this is a different type of problem.
[04:15] <snuitje> i have a box with a geforce 2 under my desk but it's running ubuntu-server atm -_-'
[04:15] <fired> hi
[04:15]  * fired comes storming home with the new lego pirates. the black ones.
[04:16] <corky`> brb X restart
[04:16] <SICK0> how can i configure unbuntu to use all network traffic through a proxy
[04:16] <corky`> SICK0, oh very simple
[04:16] <snuitje> heh yeah solaris ain't my cup of tea </offtopic>
[04:16] <corky`> System > Preferences > Network proxy?
[04:16] <fired> SICK0: you mean like a socks proxy ?
[04:16] <corky`> SICK0,
[04:16] <SICK0> like a transparent proxy
[04:16] <SICK0> tha will bounce every piece of network traffic
[04:17] <fired> what application provides a transparent proxy ?
[04:17] <SICK0> every application that requests internet will be bounced
[04:17] <SICK0> i dont know
[04:17] <fired> SICK0: oh you just want to travre through one you're behind.
[04:18] <SICK0> huh?
[04:18] <SICK0> i just want my entire connection to bounce thats it
[04:18] <SICK0> anonymity
[04:18]  * fired comes storming home with the new lego pirates. the black ones.
[04:18] <NiKofTime> mmmmm legos
[04:19] <snuitje> Trevkor: sudo apt-get install module-assistant
[04:19] <snuitje> Trevkor: then what does m-a install nvidia-177 say?
[04:20] <SICK0> umm >=| PROXY
[04:20] <snuitje> btw, m-a isn't needed anymore in 8.10, modules can be built automatically... come to think of it
[04:20] <havoque> SICK0, system > preferences > network proxy
[04:20] <SICK0> i tried that
[04:20] <snuitje> Trevkor: lsmod|grep nvidia
[04:20] <SICK0> but it only sets up my browser
[04:20] <Trevkor> snuitje:  Ok, hang on a sec
[04:21] <SICK0> i want programs like ftp and netcat
[04:21] <SICK0> everythin to bounce of it
[04:21] <jameso1> hey can i get some help it says one of my packages has unmet dependencies
[04:21] <Trevkor> snuitje:
[04:21] <Trevkor> nvidia               6900560  0
[04:21] <Trevkor> agpgart                42184  1 nvidia
[04:21] <Trevkor> i2c_core               31892  2 i2c_nforce2,nvidia
[04:21] <FloodBot1> Trevkor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:21] <havoque> this is a global system setting, not just for your browser
[04:21] <SICK0> i
[04:22] <snuitje> allright, that looks ok
[04:22] <SICK0> i'll try again
[04:22] <havoque> SICK0, try to restart networking, or just restart the pc
[04:23] <Trevkor> snuitje: Was that comment aimed at me?
[04:23] <jameso1> hey im selling this computer tomorrow and the package manager is throwin me an error ive never seen can i PLEASEget some help
[04:23] <snuitje> Trevkor: yes, no need to mess with modules for now
[04:23] <Trevkor> snuitje: Alright.
[04:24] <LinuxJunke> its a broadcom
[04:24] <havoque> jameso1, could you be more specific?
[04:24] <snuitje> Trevkor: i'm wondering if x.org autodetects the right device driver
[04:24] <snuitje> maybe you could pastebin your xorg log and config file?
[04:24] <SICK0> i just tried it
[04:24] <SICK0> i went to network proxy and put for http proxy
[04:24] <Trevkor> snuitje: Will do. Want me to just use the paste.ubuntu thing, yes?
[04:24] <SICK0> a server
[04:24] <snuitje>  /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:24] <SICK0> and it still shows my ip
[04:24] <snuitje> yep
[04:25] <SICK0> in firefox
[04:25] <FloodBot1> SICK0: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:25] <SICK0> i'm not flooding?
[04:25] <SICK0> paste what? thers nothing to paste it didnt work
[04:26] <grendal_prime> ok sooo i got this laptop, its an inspiron 1100 right, now i had debian etch runnign on it flawlessly,  It has an odd video card in it where it robs memory from the system memory.  I could not got it working with anything past 7.10
[04:26] <jameso1> havoque: when i try to update with the package manager it says an error occoured please run apt-get to see whats wrong the error message was 'error: brokencount>0 this usually means that your installed packages have unmet dependencies
[04:26] <c0re_> i need help with http://paste.ubuntu.com/76239/
[04:26] <SICK0> c0re
[04:26] <havoque> SICK0, firefox > edit > preferences > advanced tab > network > configure
[04:26] <Trevkor> snuitfe:  My log    http://paste.ubuntu.com/76238/
[04:26] <SICK0> dnt flood paste it in paste.ubuntu
[04:26] <SICK0> havoque i dont want to configure just the web browser to use a proxy
[04:26] <c0re_> SICK0, wtf? so you want me to flood here?
[04:26] <SICK0> i want my entire system to use it
[04:27] <grendal_prime> then all of the sudden even with 7.10 it decides..it just wants to boot into a black screen,  just...well for a couple of hours, then if i shut it off for some time...sometimes it comes up the way its supposed to.. so now the interesting part.  I installed ulite, (ubuntu lite) it works fine.
[04:27] <havoque> youl'll configure it to use the sysytem wide setting for proxy from there
[04:27] <Trevkor> snuitje: My conf file   http://paste.ubuntu.com/76240/
[04:27] <c0re_> SICK0, you are so dumb ass
[04:28] <grendal_prime> untell i put the compiz stuff on then it does the same thing.  I found a howto on fixing this on this particular laptop, and i get the screen back up but none of the compiz stuff works..i can make changes to it...but none of them have any effect.
[04:28] <grendal_prime> Any ideas?
[04:28] <snuitje> Trevkor: looks like it uses "nv" from x.org instead of "nvidia"
[04:28] <SICK0> c0re
[04:28] <SICK0> your mothers a dfumbass
[04:28] <SICK0> u didnt even understand what i told u dimwit
[04:28] <bazhang> SICK0, stop
[04:28] <SICK0> u disrespect me uw ill be disrespected
[04:29] <c0re_> SICK0, YOU ARE A SICKEST gay
[04:29] <Trevkor> snuitje: I had heard of that being an issue, but in the conf file, Im not sure how to actually change it since its all "generic" stuff
[04:29] <snuitje> Trevkor: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf under "Section "Device"", add a line
[04:29] <Trevkor> Guys, please, just calm down.
[04:29] <bazhang> c0re_, stop
[04:29] <Trevkor> snuitje: Alright.
[04:29] <snuitje>     Driver "nvidia"
[04:29] <c0re_> ok
[04:29] <Trevkor> snuitje: Okay.
[04:30] <c0re_> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/76239/
[04:30] <bdizzle> hi, I have a serious issue with my desktop for some unexplicable reason.
[04:30] <c0re_> can you help me with it
[04:30] <bdizzle> I keep getting back GRUB Error 25 when booting my computer
[04:30] <bazhang> c0re_, a brief synopsis here please
[04:30] <snuitje> then log out, kill X (Ctrl+alt+bs)
[04:30] <bdizzle> could someone help me get it back to a usable state so that I can work it
[04:30] <z0man> Curious is upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 fairly safe?
[04:30] <Trevkor> snuitje: Should I just log out, or restart?
[04:30] <LinuxJunke> ]nooooooooooooooooo
[04:30] <snuitje> no need to restart
[04:31] <snuitje> killing X should be enough -_-
[04:31] <Trevkor> snuitje:  Okay. I'll be right back then
[04:31] <c0re_> bazhang, wot?
[04:31] <LinuxJunke> need help with wusb54gsc linsys wireless
[04:31] <LinuxJunke> its a broadcom chipset
[04:31] <bazhang> c0re_, explain your problem to the channel in one line
[04:31] <bazhang> LinuxJunke, which version of ubuntu
[04:31] <HxC_> how to setup lpr on ubuntu???
[04:32] <LinuxJunke> 8.04
[04:32] <[a1]> hey folks i got problems trying tp play openarena in intrepid with a laptop w i945 driver, the display after 5 seconds come "bluiry", can anybody point me to the right direction?
[04:32] <bazhang> LinuxJunke, which driver did you try to install
[04:32] <c0re_> bazhang, i cant install pidgin-dev...
[04:32] <LinuxJunke> b43
[04:32] <jameso1> can i please get some help
[04:32] <snuitje> [a1]: disable gibs
[04:32] <jimdb> hey guys, i have an issue where my fstab is set up to allow me to mount some windows shares from various servers. as of 8.04 and now 8.10 i am not able to have those automatically mount.  I can remount them if I use the command sudo mount -a.  I am then prompted for a password for each.  REMEMBER, it worked prior and I have the appropriate info in the fstab.  does anyone have clues as to what they changed?  i've been very unhappy with the
[04:32] <z0man> U know what... I'm just gonna back up everything and then ugprade...Something tells me itsafe
[04:32] <bazhang> LinuxJunke, paste.ubuntu.com with the output of lsusb please (NOT here)
[04:33] <[a1]> snuitje: am new, how?
[04:33] <Flannel> jameso1: please pastebin the output of the following: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:33] <snuitje> [a1]: perhaps /set cg_drawgibs "0"... google it
[04:33] <Flannel> !paste | jameso1
[04:33] <jameso1> flannel; ok give me a sec
[04:33] <adrenergic> hi room
[04:33] <DasEi> how long remains a post on paste.ubuntu.com ?
[04:34] <adrenergic> i need help!
[04:34] <DasEi> ﻿adrenergic:me too, whats up ?
[04:34] <adrenergic> nothing came online to find info and help
[04:35] <adrenergic> how about you DasEi
[04:35] <bdizzle> hello?
[04:35] <DasEi> !ask | adrenergic
[04:35] <Flannel> !ask | adrenergic
[04:35] <bdizzle> could I get some help getting GRUB back working again so that I can attempt to get my computer running again?
[04:35] <adrenergic> hi bdizzle
[04:35] <bdizzle> I need to work on it for my research
[04:36] <xorlim> how dangerous was the "disk not found" I got once when booting this system initially? I run 8.10 and if the problem persists and doesn't go away I might downgrade to 8.04.
[04:36] <[a1]> snuitje: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS292&q=%2Fset+cg_drawgibs+%220&btnG=Search give me lots of options am lost :(
[04:37] <jameso1> flannel: here ya go and also to anyone else whocan help http://paste.ubuntu.com/76241/
[04:37] <snuitje> http://rocketland.planetquake.gamespy.com/haqsau/wickedq3.shtml
[04:37] <Flannel> jameso1: Alright, Please close whatever other package managers (synaptic, aptitude, etc) and then do it again
[04:38] <snuitje> you can put it on the commandline as well: ./ioquake3 +set cg_drawgibs 0 +map whatever
[04:38] <adrenergic> i have installed 8.04LTS... my graphics-card & monitor supports 1024x768x32bits... & it worked in 6.06LTS / 6.10 even 7.04 but i don't know how-to get back it's resolution... it has got 800x600
[04:38] <[a1]> snuitje: after 5 seconds my arrow became a big blury square and can see manu descriptions nomore only heard clicks of mouse
[04:38] <Vinceman> hi, how do you change your menu-links?
[04:38] <bdizzle> grr
[04:38] <bdizzle> too many people in here, is there an alternate room?
[04:39] <ardchoille> Vinceman: the gnome menu? right click the menu and choose "edit menus"
[04:39] <nvti> bdizzle: for what?
[04:39] <bouma> i wonder how good solaris is these days
[04:39] <bazhang> Vinceman, which ones?
[04:39] <bouma> should i switch from linux to solaris just for zfs ?
[04:39] <bdizzle> nvti: I need to figure out how to get my computer to recover from an Error 25 on GRUB
[04:39] <jameso1> flannel : ok   http://paste.ubuntu.com/76245/
[04:39] <snuitje> [a1]: does glxgears run allright?
[04:39] <Vinceman> hey, was it always that simple?
[04:39] <Trevkor> snuitje: Didnt work, and now even if I init2, it goes to the black login screen
[04:40] <ardchoille> Vinceman: yep :)
[04:40] <Trevkor> Sorry for the delay, had to get an irc client on my laptop
[04:40] <bdizzle> right now I'm reburning an .iso disk and trying to boot through command line
[04:40] <snuitje> hm
[04:40] <bdizzle> the only think I can think of is to boot into windows from there, then run /fixmbr, then reinstall grub somehow
[04:40] <adrenergic> bdizzle u have that disk-not-found problem?
[04:40] <snuitje> before you init 2, you can get a good xorg.conf again by running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:40] <adrenergic> where did you installed the grub...?
[04:40] <nvti> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=117271&highlight=grub+error+25
[04:40] <snuitje> try dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg for a bit more questions
[04:41] <Trevkor> snuitje: Alright. Ill do that now, since Im on the lappy as well
[04:41] <bdizzle> adrenergic: I'm not sure what GRUB Error 25 is to begin with
[04:41] <nvti> that's for bdizzle
[04:41] <DavidCraft> since xorg doesnt store teh possible screen rezzes any more, where are they stored?
[04:41] <Flannel> jameso1: Please pastebin the output of apt-cache policy sun-java6-jre
[04:41] <[a1]> snuitje: yes blue red green gears ok.
[04:41] <bdizzle> nvti: this will work?
[04:42] <nvti> bdizzle: it explains how to re-install GRUB
[04:42] <bdizzle> ok
[04:42] <Trevkor> snuitje: I used the dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[04:42] <snuitje> [a1]: try downloading ioquake3 from the icculus site
[04:43] <JoeTheMac> Hey all!
[04:43] <[a1]> snuitje: URIc?
[04:43] <[a1]> snuitje: **URI?
[04:43] <snuitje> Trevkor: and if you run X (just running "X" should work, useful for testing, kill it off with ctrl+alt+bs) does it "work"?
[04:43] <bonhoffer> is there a way to suspend from the command line?
[04:43] <snuitje> icculus.org
[04:43] <[a1]> snuitje: alright.
[04:44] <JoeTheMac> Got a problem here. Have ubuntu installed on my Mac Mini, trying to get it working with my widescreen HD tv, using DVI -> HDMI. Works fine with my old monitor, but is always out of range whenever I try to use it with my HD TV.
[04:44] <jameso1> flannel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/76249/
[04:44] <Trevkor> snuitje: What do you mean?
[04:44] <m_> How I can chat msn
[04:44] <bonhoffer> my log-out button won't let me suspend -- want to suspend the computer from the command line . . .
[04:44] <Trevkor> snuitje:  Any time I've used Ctrl+alt+bcksp, all it does it flicker a bit, and stay black.
[04:45] <snuitje> after you've overwritten xorg.conf, try running 'X' from the commandline to see if it gives you the old-skool mesh
[04:45] <snuitje> hm that's odd
[04:45] <Trevkor> snuitje: Indeed it does. Mesh background, x cursor.
[04:45] <snuitje> ah
[04:45] <Flannel> jameso1: Alright.  Got it.  Your issue is that you've somehow disabled hardy-updates, which is where this version comes from.  You'll want to re-enable them.
[04:45] <snuitje> then X works
[04:45] <Trevkor> Running just X
[04:45] <Trevkor> Yes.
[04:45] <snuitje> although it may not have glx enabled
[04:45] <Trevkor> Granted, nothings coming up but the mesh and the cursor
[04:45] <jameso1> flannel : how?
[04:46] <snuitje> yes, killing it now should bring you back to where you came from
[04:46] <Trevkor> snuitje: I hit Ctrl+alt+Bksp, and nothing happens
[04:46] <snuitje> try ctrl+alt+f1
[04:46] <Flannel> jameso1: Um, you can do it through software preferences, or we can do it by editing your sources.list file (/etc/apt/sources.list).  The latter is the easiest through IRC (pastebin that file, I'll modify it, and you can copy/paste it back).  But the GUI method is easy for you to do (just check a button)
[04:46] <PowhatanBob> I've got a web server running that I can access fine by 127.0.0.1 but when I try and access it using WAN address, no luck.  I have forwarded port 80.  Any ideas?
[04:47] <Trevkor> snuitje: Takes me to the terminal, with what looks like the log file open
[04:47] <snuitje> powertool08: sudo netstat -plant
[04:47] <macjason0607> anyone know why menu.lst changes ?
[04:47] <snuitje> that's X.org dumping its messages
[04:47] <Trevkor> snuitje: Gives the (EE) Failed to initialized GLX (compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[04:47] <JoeTheMac> Having problems with my HD TV. I have all the specifications for a resolution that I know works, but I'm not sure how to configure it. Ubuntu works fine with my old monitor, but always out of range with my HD widescreen.
[04:47] <nickrud> macjason0607, whenever a new kernel is installed, it automatically rebuilds menu.lst
[04:47] <jameso1> flannel : doesnt matter witchever you wanna do
[04:47] <snuitje> Trevkor: right, shows it's using nv
[04:48] <Trevkor> snuitje: Yeah, thats what I thought. Though Im unsure how to change it
[04:48] <snuitje> with ^C it'll die off (eventually)
[04:48] <nickrud> PowhatanBob, is your isp blocking 80?
[04:48] <Flannel> jameso1: If you open up software sources, you should see a checkbox for some sort of official "updates" repository
[04:48] <Trevkor> snuitje: Ok, Im back at the terminal
[04:48] <Trevkor> snuitje:  Well....at the prompt, you know.
[04:49] <snuitje> i know -_-
[04:49] <JoeTheMac> I've seen a few things about modifying the xorg.conf file, but, not sure where to start
[04:49] <Flannel> jameso1: if you can't find it, go ahead and pastebin your sources.list and we'll do it that way
[04:49] <bonhoffer> snuitje, any way to suspend from the terminal (command prompt)?
[04:49] <Trevkor> snuitje: I was just saying, sorry. ><
[04:49] <PowhatanBob> i wouldn't know how to check.  Initially I was running the server on port 8000 but that didn't work either so I tried 80.  How can I check if ISP is the problem?
[04:49] <snuitje> to be sure, run apt-cache show nvidia-glx-177|less and make sure your chipset is listed (run lspci to see)
[04:49] <snuitje> oh certainly
[04:49] <jameso1> flannel : i see it im checking them all  let me see what happens
[04:49] <macjason0607> nickrud if i have a backup of it will it over write teh backup or just the menu.lst
[04:49] <nickrud> PowhatanBob, you can use some really odd high number.
[04:50] <snuitje> just type "suspend"
[04:50] <Flannel> jameso1: you don't want -proposed, if that's in there.
[04:50] <bonhoffer> cool
[04:50] <nickrud> macjason0607, only the menu.lst. But the way menu.lst is written, you can have the automatic update include your preferences. What's getting overwritten?
[04:50] <bonhoffer>  suspend: cannot suspend a login shell
[04:50] <snuitje> uhm...
[04:50] <jameso1> flannel : when i checked em it said i had 2 broken packages and to use the broken package filter
[04:51] <bonhoffer> hold on
[04:51] <Trevkor> snuitje: It says it's supported
[04:51] <snuitje> pm-suspend
[04:51] <nickrud> PowhatanBob, it's really going to depend on your isp and how restrictive they are about incoming connections
[04:51] <DasEi> if I do a ps aux, the % memory given for an app are related to the systems (hardware) ram or the whole amount the syste uses atm ?
[04:51] <snuitje> failing that, sudo apt-get install pm-tools
[04:51] <snuitje> Trevkor: good
[04:51] <deat1> hey guys  how to install yahoo messenger in ubuntu wat shd i download
[04:51] <Trevkor> snuitje:  How exactly do I get out of the info? I know its a noob question, but yeah
[04:52] <snuitje> q
[04:52] <Trevkor> snuitje:  k. Now what?
[04:52] <koms> s corolina
[04:53] <jameso1> flannel : did you get what i said?
[04:53] <PowhatanBob> Hrm.  I didn't have any problems running a FTP server a couple months ago but haven't tried that recently.  That was under windows too.  I have comcast if that gives you any more info
[04:53] <adrenergic> how am i gonna solve my resolution problem....
[04:53] <koms> estate of s . corolina
[04:53] <MeRLinA>  :S 
[04:53] <MeRLinA> hi
[04:53] <Trevkor> snuitje:  So, what now?
[04:53] <MeRLinA> i need help
[04:53] <adrenergic> hi MeRLinA
[04:54] <nickrud> powertool08, nope. I have att, but don't run outside facing servers locally. I have a couple out there I put stuff on instead
[04:54] <snuitje> Trevkor: uhm... panic?
[04:54] <nickrud> PowhatanBob, the last was for you, sorry powertool08
[04:54] <Trevkor> snuitje: Haha. I already have been. I have class tomorrow (college), and when it went over my hard drive, I had 3 projects that I never actually printed
[04:55] <tilkster> hey guys i need help making a macro
[04:55] <tilkster> i have a program that times out after 2 hours
[04:55] <tilkster> and basically when it times out i want it to auto restart
[04:55] <tilkster> its in command line
[04:55] <tilkster> and the commadn to run the program is ./run1
[04:55] <snuitje> Trevkor: ???
[04:55] <tilkster> and basically the program runs fine
[04:55] <Trevkor> snuitje: When I installed 8.10, clean install, I forgot to print my papers
[04:56] <snuitje> ouch
[04:56] <tilkster> until 2 hours.. then it shuts off program and just sam@root:____
[04:56] <Trevkor> snuitje: I re did them, but yeah
[04:56] <JoeTheMac> Got a problem here. Have ubuntu installed on my Mac Mini, trying to get it working with my widescreen HD tv, using DVI -> HDMI. Works fine with my old monitor, but is always out of range whenever I try to use it with my HD TV.  I've seen a few things about modifying the xorg.conf file, but, not sure where to start
[04:57] <tilkster> basically i want the command
[04:57] <koms> help¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
[04:57] <tilkster> ./run
[04:57] <tilkster> to go
[04:57] <shadowwulf> i have an atheros card that was not detected by ubuntu ... how do i install it ?
[04:57] <koms> drivers for e-Geforce 6200 nvidia please
[04:58] <tilkster> automatically
[04:58] <entwine> amm
[04:58] <tilkster> how can i do that?
[04:58] <entwine> somebody use wifi connection? :$
[04:58] <adrenergic> i have installed 8.04LTS... my graphics-card & monitor supports 1024x768x32bits... & it worked in 6.06LTS / 6.10 even 7.04 but i don't know how-to get back it's resolution... it has got 800x600
[04:58] <DasEi> !wireless
[04:58] <entwine> yes
[04:58] <tilkster> anybody??
[04:58] <jameso1> flannel: sorry my plug got pulled  where were we???
[04:59] <adrenergic> !resolution
[04:59] <snuitje> trevkor: if you init 2 now and log in
[04:59] <snuitje> run gksudo nvidia-settings
[05:00] <adrenergic> me snuitje?
[05:00] <shadowwulf> i have an atheros card that was not detected by ubuntu ... how do i install it ?
[05:00] <zzznn> www.ubuntu.com.cn
[05:00] <tilkster> nyone for macro
[05:01] <zzznn> 中文
[05:01] <|TJ|> !ch
[05:01] <|TJ|> !chinese
[05:01] <entwine> omg
[05:01] <entwine> :(
[05:01] <entwine> i dont know what to do :-\
[05:01] <deat1> how to install yahoo messenger
[05:01] <zzznn> thanks very much
[05:01] <slinkeey> AS400
[05:02] <snuitje> oh trev left :/
[05:02] <shadowwulf> i have an atheros card that was not detected by ubuntu 8.10 ... how do i install it ?
[05:02] <slinkeey_> Wild Bill!
[05:03] <Flannel> jameso1: Go ahead and pastebin your sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list)
[05:03] <jameso1> flannel : ok give me a sec
[05:03] <snuitje> this is useful for anyone who has problems with nvidia drivers: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/common-problems-and-solutions-for-nvidia-restricted-drivers-after-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex-upgrade.html
[05:04] <kindofabuzz> i have a bunch of files that have .xml.html what's a command to delete the .html after all them?
[05:04] <kindofabuzz> commands*
[05:04] <tilkster> anyone??
[05:04] <Jordan_U> kindofabuzz: rename
[05:05] <ozzloy> can i buy a lenovo x300 without ms windows?
[05:05] <jameso1> flannel : it said bash sources denied
[05:05] <kindofabuzz> Jordan_U, ahh! lol
[05:05] <jameso1> flannel : http://paste.ubuntu.com/76258/
[05:06] <Flannel> jameso1: right, do this: alt-f2 then type: gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:06] <DasEi> ﻿kindofabuzz: cd to the dir , first copy : cp *.xml.htl    *.xml , look again, then rm *.xml.html
[05:06] <tilkster> can anyone help me make a simple command line macro
[05:06] <tilkster> i need something
[05:07] <tilkster> to run a program when it crashes
[05:07] <jameso1> flannel : pastebin that?
[05:07] <tilkster> this should be simple
[05:07] <kindofabuzz> DasEi, rename 's/\.html$//' *.html worked
[05:07] <FloodBot1> tilkster: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:07] <tilkster> but i need helpzzpzpzpz
[05:07] <Flannel> jameso1: pastebin the contents of the file that opens up
[05:07] <DasEi> ﻿kindofabuzz: even simpler, I#m up for now, nice
[05:07] <jameso1> flannel : http://paste.ubuntu.com/76259/
[05:08] <Flannel> jameso1: Alright, delete the last line there (has "hardy-proposed" in it), then save the file, close the editor, and pastebin the output of this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:09] <onats> i need to set some environment variables. what is the file that i should put them in? .profile?
[05:10] <tilkster> anyone? lol i mean it hsould be easy but idk how to do macros
[05:10] <grendal_prime> there is no way to install 8.10 in text mode unless i download the alternate cd right?
[05:10] <xorlim> tilkster: can you explain the problem again?
[05:11] <[a1]> snuitje: wget http://ioquake3.org/files/ioquake3-1.34-rc3.run && chmod +x ioquake3-1.34-rc3.run && sh ioquake3-1.34-rc3.run did not work
[05:11] <tilkster> ok basically i have a program that times out after 2 hours
[05:11] <Flannel> grendal_prime: the desktop CD can't do it, yes.
[05:11] <tilkster> and i want to have a macro that auto runs it
[05:11] <tilkster> its basically
[05:11] <grendal_prime> mthrfkr
[05:11] <tilkster> ./run1
[05:11] <tilkster> then it runs for 2 hours
[05:11] <tilkster> then its done
[05:11] <tilkster> then when it crashes
[05:11] <jameso1> flannel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/76260/
[05:11] <FloodBot1> tilkster: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:11] <xorlim> tilkster: let me think...
[05:11] <tilkster> i want ./run1
[05:11] <tilkster> to auto put int he command line and rerun..
[05:11] <Flannel> !enter | tilkster
[05:11] <jameso1> flannel: doesnt look like it helped
[05:11] <xorlim> tilkster: man at
[05:12] <grendal_prime> i got the inspiron 1100 that crashes on install but im pretty sure that it has something to do with compiz crashing the system.
[05:12] <xorlim> tilkster: man cron
[05:12] <Sniper606x> what does this mean... adduser: Only one or two names allowed.
[05:12] <tilkster> man cron?
[05:12] <Flannel> jameso1: It did.  Now run sudo apt-get -f install
[05:12] <tilkster> macro
[05:12] <grendal_prime> well crashing the x system anyway.  well i have a 7.10 alternate
[05:12] <grendal_prime> i could set it all up with that and upgrade.
[05:12] <xorlim> tilkster: cron would let you run programs at certain times on certain dates
[05:12] <grendal_prime> hmmm
[05:12] <xorlim> tilkster: at would do the same
[05:13] <Flannel> Sniper606x: it means your syntax is wrong, what command were you using, and what are you trying to accomplish?
[05:13] <xorlim> tilkster: you want to use command line commands probably
[05:13] <Sniper606x> i need to add another user account...
[05:13] <xorlim> tilkster: "macro" makes me think about the graphical environment
[05:13] <Sniper606x> how is the syntax wrong on every other system ive typed adduser and i get prompted for a name and so on
[05:13] <tilkster> yea
[05:13] <tilkster> only ocmmand line
[05:13] <[a1]> snuitje: you suggest earlyier <snuitje> [a1]: disable gibs how can i do that?
[05:14] <xorlim> tilkster: let me check "man at" and "man cron"
[05:14] <Flannel> Sniper606x: Try useradd instead.
[05:14] <tilkster> ok thanks
[05:14] <jameso1> falnnel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/76261/
[05:14] <xorlim> tilkster: do you know how to use the "man" manual page command?
[05:14] <tilkster> not really.
[05:15] <xorlim> tilkster: it reads a lot about at in "man at". I will try to give you an example.
[05:15] <jameso1> flannel: how can i send you a screenshot?? it came up in the terminal witha bluescreen
[05:16] <Flannel> jameso1: what does the blue screen say?
[05:16] <shadowwulf> i have an atheros card that was not detected by ubuntu 8.10 ... how do i install it ?
[05:16] <jameso1> falnnel: configuring sun java 6
[05:16] <Flannel> jameso1: yeah, answer whatever questions it has.
[05:16] <drakz> how do i see the users in the channel using xchat?
[05:16] <xorlim> tilkster: try using "batch ./run1"
[05:16] <jameso1> flannel: it has ok at the bottom but i can click
[05:16] <tilkster> ok?
[05:16] <Flannel> jameso1: use the keyboard to navigate
[05:17] <[a1]> hey folks i got problems trying tp play openarena in intrepid with a laptop w i945 driver, the display after 5 seconds come "bluiry", can anybody point me to the right direction?
[05:17] <jmk2> hi, trying to get list of zip files then untar each one (via a one-liner) ? how to?
[05:17] <[a1]> snuitje: after 5 seconds my arrow became a big blury square and can see manu descriptions nomore only heard clicks of mouse
[05:17] <xorlim> tilkster: "at 07:18"<enter>commands<enter><ctrl+d>
[05:18] <Skky> Hey all when I "sudo apt-get install vmware-player" it says I have the most recent version but when I type "vmplayer" or "vmware-player" it says unrecognized command - how can I start vmplayer?
[05:18] <jmk2> ls | grep *.zip | tar xvf -C data $FILE ?
[05:18] <jameso1> falnnel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/76263/
[05:18] <[a1]> ./vmplayer ??
[05:18] <drakz> why can i not see users in xchat in a channel on the right hand side
[05:18] <tilkster> says batch accepts no parameters
[05:18] <tilkster> when i do that command
[05:19] <tilkster> xorlim
[05:19] <Skky> [a1] that doesn't work either :(
[05:19] <xorlim> tilkster: it said the same to me...
[05:19] <[a1]> Skky:  whereis vmplayer
[05:19] <tilkster> kkz
[05:20] <jameso1> flannel: hah i think you fixed it !!!!!
[05:20] <jameso1> thanx
[05:20] <Skky> i don't know, how can I find out? it just says it is already installed
[05:20] <bdizzle> okay, the issue is worse than I Thought
[05:20] <xorlim> tilkster: so you have to press enter after just using the command "at" or "batch" and then you type in the commands separated by carriage returns (enter presses) and ctrl+d in the end
[05:20] <bdizzle> burned a rescue disk
[05:20] <[a1]> Skky:  type that on terminal whereis vmplayer
[05:20] <bdizzle> it will load the CD, but claims I/O error, error reading boot CD, with the only option as being Reboot
[05:21] <tilkster> example?
[05:21] <tilkster> so like batch
[05:21] <Skky> [a1] it says: "vmplayer: "
[05:21] <Skky> that's all
[05:21] <tilkster> enter
[05:21] <tilkster> type command then enter again>??
[05:21] <xorlim> tilkster: batch<enter>
[05:21] <xorlim> tilkster: command<enter again><ctrl+d>
[05:21] <[a1]> Skky:  then its not installed, i guess yet
[05:21] <bdizzle> um, serious help please?
[05:21] <tilkster> ok i did that
[05:21] <Skky> [a1] then how come sudo apt-get install vmware-player says it is the most recent version?
[05:22] <xorlim> tilkster: hmm...
[05:22] <xorlim> tilkster: once I had it send text to tty's... now it doesn't show output.
[05:22] <bdizzle> *sigh*
[05:22] <tilkster> kk
[05:22] <LoveGuru> Hi, Need Some help with squid/apache i m running website at my linux box now im trying to open my website but its working now gave me error in return can someoone help with " http://paste.ubuntu.com/76266/ " thanks.
[05:22] <bdizzle> who was helping me earlier, maybe they will know
[05:23] <Skky> how do I unpack a RPM?
[05:23] <bdizzle> Skky, use alien to convert it to .deb then go from there as usual
[05:23] <tilkster> okk
[05:23] <tilkster> i didnt run
[05:23] <drakz> Hello, can someone please help me out i can not see any users in xchat on the right hand side of my program.
[05:23] <bdizzle> I can't get into my system anymore. I booted it up as usual and it is giving me a GRUB Error 25. I tried to burn a Kubuntu 8.04 ISO and install it. The disk was loaded, then gave me an I/O error, saying it could not read the disk
[05:23] <Skky> sudo alien -i VM....rpm  ?
[05:24] <[a1]> Skky:  vmplayer ... try apt-cache search vmplayer ...????
[05:24] <xorlim> tilkster: hmm
[05:24] <Skky> [a1] no results
[05:24] <SkinnYPuPp_> bdizzle: google reinstalling grub
[05:25] <bdizzle> with what CD?
[05:25] <[a1]> Skky:  vmplayer there is no such package, yoyu mean mplayer?
[05:25] <bdizzle> SkinnYPuPp_: it won't run the Kubuntu CD
[05:26] <Skky> vmware-vmplayer
[05:26] <Skky> virtual machine
[05:26] <SkinnYPuPp_> ooh... you may need to burn a new cd then misunderstood
[05:26] <bdizzle> yeah, I tried
[05:26] <bdizzle> it won't read the CD, citing I/O errors
[05:26] <tilkster> yea not sure.
[05:27] <SkinnYPuPp_> i have noticed a few knock off cdrom drives do this trying to boot using linux but were fine with windows cd. Do you have another cdrom to try?
[05:28] <[a1]> Skky:  never heard off it
[05:29] <bdizzle> SkinnYPuPp_: yeah, I have a second CD drive, let me try that one
[05:30] <egosintrick> Skky if it is installed it should appear in your applications menu
[05:30] <bdizzle> its still giving me error of I/O error
[05:30] <egosintrick> Skyy try applications > System Tools
[05:31] <SkinnYPuPp_> Have you swapped any drives around? Reading a few threads on grub25 were from swapping drive from controller to controller or master slave backwards
[05:31] <jack|ass> Anyone have an issue in 64-bit Intrepid flash where full-screen video gets horrific tearing.  I'm using the nvidia driver.
[05:31] <bdizzle> hold on, something happened
[05:32] <bdizzle> I think I got it up, but I'm not sure how
[05:32] <bdizzle> something about eXpress recovery on the BIOS?
[05:32] <cached> how do i set it up so i can have sound from multiple sources at once?
[05:32] <bdizzle> alright, so how do i do a fix of GRUB and a full check of the system?
[05:33] <KNY> is there any easy way to rip out pulseaudio completely?
[05:33] <Jordan_U> jack|ass: Using compiz?
[05:34] <jack|ass> Jordan_U: I turned it off.  Didn't seem to make a difference.
[05:34] <SkinnYPuPp_> bdizzle: is it booting now?
[05:34] <bdizzle> I got it this one time somehow
[05:34] <jack|ass> Jordan_U: Some googling suggested that it might help, but... nope.
[05:34] <bdizzle> but I want to run a full check on GRUB and the system
[05:34] <bdizzle> any ideas on how?
[05:35] <bdizzle> I might use linux, but by no means know how to debug it
[05:35] <SkinnYPuPp_> if it boots grub is doing its job just fine
[05:35] <Vinceman> why is the standard browser of ubuntu firefox?
[05:35] <bdizzle> so why did I get the error 25 then?
[05:35] <n8tuser> Vinceman-> you can use w3m if you wish
[05:35] <Flannel> Vinceman: Its more popular than Epiphany
[05:35] <Vinceman> all apps have it as standard/default
[05:36] <SkinnYPuPp_> sounds like drie config was turned off or changed in you bios
[05:36] <SkinnYPuPp_> if you didn't swap any drive cables around
[05:36] <bdizzle> no, I didn't
[05:36] <bdizzle> I turned it off for the weekend, that's all
[05:37] <kaankanat> hello
[05:37] <bdizzle> is there a way to check to make sure GRUB is working properly so that I won't get that Error 25 again?
[05:37] <kaankanat> monkey
[05:37] <somethingclever> I am running ubuntu hardy on a compaq c301nr1 and i need help getting my wireless to work
[05:37]  * HackBuntu says Hi
[05:37] <HackBuntu> Ah... I've got a question
[05:38] <HackBuntu> How do I recreate the tmp directory, with the correct chmod?
[05:38] <HackBuntu> for 8.04
[05:38] <HackBuntu> on 8.10 it's 12 (or 380... I think 380)
[05:38] <Scunizi> Alright already! Trackerd has been taking 50% of my cpu for 3 solid days now.. what's up with that? any solutions?
[05:39] <somethingclever> It says that it is enabled, but not in use, how do I make the wireless be used? its a broadcom sta wifi
[05:39] <somethingclever> please help me
[05:39] <tux9778> hi where do u get the alternate cd for 8.10?
[05:39] <n8tuser> Scunizi-> you can turn of trackerd ?
[05:39] <somethingclever> tux9778, www.ubuntu.com
[05:39] <SkinnYPuPp_> bdizzle: no tellin but if it boots fine now its doing its job and the experess recovery in the bios is bios related and not grub related.
[05:39] <[a1]> HackBuntu: chmod -R 5777 /temp
[05:39] <tux9778> ok im there already looking
[05:39] <HackBuntu> What's the chmod command to change the tmp directory from 5-4096 to 16-380
[05:40] <Scunizi> n8tuser: using the right mouse click on the icon and telling it to stop does nothing.
[05:40] <bdizzle> ok
[05:40] <HackBuntu> Thanks al, I'll give it a go
[05:40] <SkinnYPuPp_> bdizzle: though it will cause grub problems if drive config gets altered in bios
[05:40] <bdizzle> joy
[05:40] <somethingclever> on the get page, check the check box for alternate disc, tux9778
[05:40] <HackBuntu> al: Am I right in thinking it's the same for the logs folder?
[05:40] <SkinnYPuPp_> bdizzle: yep pat yourself on the back you fixed it not me :o)
[05:40] <tux9778> ok thank you somethingclever
[05:41] <Scunizi> n8tuser: I have to kill it to make it stop
[05:41] <somethingclever> np
[05:41] <lydsylar> how
[05:41] <tux9778> is there a much differnce between 8.04 n 8.10 somethingclever?
[05:41] <somethingclever> can anyone help me with broadcom?
[05:41] <n8tuser> Scunizi-> correct
[05:41] <somethingclever> tux9778, just tabbed browsing in the file manager and a new theme is all i noticed, tux9778
[05:41] <lydsylar> how  to make chinese
[05:41] <HackBuntu> sex
[05:42] <somethingclever> heh
[05:42] <HackBuntu> with someone chinese
[05:42] <Jordan_U> somethingclever: Are you using 8.10 or 8.04 and if 8.10 did restricted manager offer to download firmware or was it simply enabling a driver?
[05:42] <HackBuntu> LOL
[05:42] <tux9778> ok the one i have somethingclever wont play videos in firefox
[05:42] <Scunizi> n8tuser: on reboot it starts up all over again.. is there a hidden directory/file in my ~ that might have been left from Hardy that would be interfearing?  I fresh installed but used my old ~ partition
[05:42] <[a1]> yes
[05:42] <HackBuntu> have you installed the proper codecs?
[05:42] <AndCat> im chinese
[05:42] <zesu> 晕死
[05:42] <AndCat> 呵呵
[05:42] <HackBuntu> nee how
[05:42] <HackBuntu> ma
[05:42] <somethingclever> Jordan_U, im using 8.04, got it to say it was enabled (FINALLY) but it says not in use, i want it to be in us
[05:43] <tux9778> i installed flashplayer 10 and nothing
[05:43] <zzznn> make love
[05:43] <Flannel> HackBuntu: Please keep it on topic and family friendly.
[05:43] <LoveGuru> im trying to install come programe and the programs want to know the location of " C header files that match your running kernel? i checked my "/usr/src/linux/include" for C header but didn't find anything there any suggestion ?
[05:43] <HackBuntu> lol, sorry
[05:43] <HackBuntu> couldn't help myself
[05:43] <somethingclever> and tux9778 try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted=extras
[05:43] <[a1]> HackBuntu: styke bit? yes
[05:43] <tux9778> ok ty bud
[05:43] <LoveGuru> *some
[05:43] <n8tuser> Scunizi-> it uses the config file at $HOME/.config/tracker/tracker.cfg
[05:43] <somethingclever> * tux9778 i mean sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:43] <HackBuntu> What's the chmod command to change the log directory to what it's meant to be?
[05:43] <tux9778> ty somethingclever
[05:44] <tux9778> ill try it when i switch back over
[05:44] <somethingclever> so Jordan_U any ideas?
[05:44] <jmk2> how do i unzip a file "file.zip" with tar ?
[05:44] <Scunizi> n8tuser: if I delete that will it auto recreate and maybe eliminate the problem
[05:44] <n8tuser> Scunizi-> you can save a copy and then delete to see how it goes?
[05:45] <HackBuntu> al: what does styke mean?
[05:45] <[a1]> HackBuntu: sticky byte
[05:45] <Scunizi> n8tuser: good idea..  weird that highlighting has stopped for me in xchat when you use my nick..
[05:45] <HackBuntu> al: ?
[05:45] <n8tuser> Scunizi-> and set EnableWatching=false
[05:45] <Jordan_U> somethingclever: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter, if it is already installed make sure that it has downloaded and extracted the firmware by doing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure b43-fwcutter"
[05:45] <Scunizi> n8tuser: k
[05:45] <jmk2> how do i unzip a file "file.zip" with tar ?
[05:46] <HackBuntu> al: what do you mean by sticky byte?
[05:46] <n8tuser> jmk2-> use  jar instead
[05:46] <LoveGuru> im trying to install ssome programe and the programs want to know the location of " C header files that match your running kernel? i checked my "/usr/src/linux/include" for C header but didn't find anything there any suggestion ?
[05:46] <HackBuntu> al: WOW THANKS A HEAP al! You just allowed me to boot into Ubuntu for the first time in (at least) 2 months!
[05:46] <n8tuser> jmk2-> jar xvf  file.zip  to extract
[05:46] <Jordan_U> somethingclever: You need to be connected to the internet for it to download the firmware ( it's not in the .deb file for legal reasons )
[05:47] <jmk2> n8tuser: problem is i'm using cygwin, no jar nor unzip in there.
[05:47] <[a1]> HackBuntu: stick byte means only the user of file can modify the 7xx ...soo 17xx its sticky byte
[05:47] <pinPoint> hey
[05:47] <pinPoint> Warning: the GD imaging library was not found on this server or it is an old version that does not support jpeg images
[05:47] <n8tuser> jmk2-> do you have java? thats a java tool
[05:47] <HackBuntu> al: WOW THANKS A HEAP al! You just allowed me to boot into Ubuntu for the first time in (at least) 2 months!
[05:47] <HackBuntu> al: WOW THANKS A HEAP al! You just allowed me to boot into Ubuntu for the first time in (at least) 2 months!
[05:47] <HackBuntu> al: WOW THANKS A HEAP al! You just allowed me to boot into Ubuntu for the first time in (at least) 2 months!
[05:47] <pinPoint> what does that mean? ^^
[05:47] <FloodBot1> HackBuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:47] <[a1]> lol
[05:48] <jmk2> n8tuser: java, yes sir.
[05:48] <LoveGuru> can someone Please help?
[05:48] <n8tuser> jmk2-> so try to use java's  jar tool
[05:48] <HackBuntu> What progam?
[05:48] <somethingclever> cool, Jordan_U i forgot to fetch and extract firmware during the install
[05:49] <Scunizi> Scunizi: highlight test
[05:49] <HackBuntu> LoveGuru: What program?
[05:49] <somethingclever> Jordan_U, TY!!!
[05:50] <Jordan_U> somethingclever: np :)
[05:50]  * HackBuntu has another question!
[05:51] <Flannel> !ask | HackBuntu
[05:51] <HackBuntu> To upgrade from Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10, is there any middle step
[05:51] <Flannel> !upgrade | HackBuntu
[05:51] <HackBuntu> by that, if I put in a custom ubuntu 8.10 DVD, will it install
[05:51] <Flannel> HackBuntu: that page will walk you through it, but no you upgrade straight from 8.04 to 810
[05:51] <HackBuntu> without any hassles?
[05:52] <drh___> how do i add the repositories required to install epic / bitchx?
[05:52] <[a1]> drh___:  dont fuck
[05:52] <HackBuntu> Where's gparted in the GNOME 'menubar' again?
[05:52] <Flannel> drh___: bitchX isn't in the repositories because of security concerns.  epic is in universe, which is likely already enabled.
[05:52] <Flannel> [a1]: Please watch your language
[05:52] <LinuxJunke> linksys WUSB54GSC running 8.04 have the driver which is a Broadcom 4320 working but encryption on the wirless will not connect any help for this?
[05:52] <ubuntu_> kljkl
[05:53] <[a1]> Flannel: k
[05:53] <drh___> Flannel ; i just installed Ubuntu like an hour again and under the Synaptic Package Manager when i quick searc for irc all i find is xchat and irsii ; when i type epic nothing comes in.
[05:53] <HackBuntu> xchat is pretty good
[05:53] <sacamano> hey, so i go to college and my IP address got blacklisted. how can i change IPs? even if i plug my laptop in a different port in my room it still pulls the same IP, even though my roommate has a different one
[05:53] <somethingclever> Jordan_U, it says Broadcom STA Wireless driver , enabled, but OT in use
[05:53] <HackBuntu> but try sudo apt-get update
[05:53] <Flannel> drh___: Push the "reload" button to connect to the internet and download package lists
[05:54] <Anza> on hotmail, people on windows have the option to attach: file or photo. So, it sends it as an attached file or as a photo that does part of the message, on ubuntu when I open my hotmail account and try to send a photo it only gives me the option to attach it as a file. Is there anyway to fix it?
[05:54] <HackBuntu> (type this into terminal) sudo apt-get update
[05:54] <drh___> Flannel ; i did.
[05:54] <drakz> where do downloads go to by default on a fresh install of ubuntu?
[05:54] <HackBuntu> (type this into terminal) sudo apt-get install irc
[05:54] <Flannel> drh___: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[05:54] <Bangers> I have set my PATH in ~/.bash_proflile - however, when I "ssh user@server commandX" - it says commandX isnt found
[05:54] <HackBuntu> wiat
[05:54] <HackBuntu> wait
[05:54] <Bangers> and isnt parsing my .bash_profile file
[05:54] <Jordan_U> somethingclever: Try running "sudo modprobe b43"
[05:54] <Anza> I have tried with opera and firefox
[05:54] <HackBuntu> somewhere... lol
[05:54] <[a1]> HackBuntu: soo you only play?
[05:54] <drh___> 8.10
[05:54] <Jordan_U> drakz: Desktop
[05:55] <n8tuser> Bangers-> at remote end, is that commandX in the $PATH ?
[05:55] <juncong> OK
[05:55] <drh___> ok i got it now
[05:55] <somethingclever> Jordan_U, that did nothing
[05:55] <drh___> sorry :>
[05:55] <drakz> jordan_u: i downloaded limewire and i do not see it on the desktop
[05:55] <Flannel> drh___: Alright, the package name is "epic4".  You need universe enabled, and it should already be, but we can double check.  Either go to system > admin > software sources, or view your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[05:55] <HackBuntu> al: Nope, I'm just starting to learn!
[05:55] <Flannel> drh___: Alright, good to hear.
[05:55] <Jordan_U> Bangers: Try in .profile rather than .bash_profile
[05:55] <Bangers> n8tuser: err, why else would I be updating the PATH if i wasnt include the correct PATH of commandX
[05:56] <Jordan_U> drakz: Try gtk-gnutella
[05:56] <somethingclever> ok
[05:56] <HackBuntu> Where's gparted in the GNOME 'menubar'?
[05:56] <somethingclever> now the wifi light is on Jordan_U
[05:56] <n8tuser> Bangers-> you never mentioned which end you were changing
[05:56] <[a1]> HackBuntu: i ngot 2 weeks in ubuntu so far :)
[05:56] <somethingclever> SWEET!, Jordan_U thank you so much it sworking now no problem!
[05:56] <drh___> Flannel but how do i make sure universe is enabled
[05:56] <somethingclever> you rock thank you so much Jordan_U
[05:56] <Flannel> drh___: If you can see epic4 in the repos (in synaptic) then you have universe enabled.
[05:57] <jimmacdonald> Who does management of the mailing lists?
[05:57] <HackBuntu> al: as of 3am this morning, I have a working distribution of my own built on ubuntu 8.10
[05:57] <Flannel> jimmacdonald: Depends on the mailing list.
[05:57] <drakz> jordan_u i am new to linux whats gtk-gnutella?
[05:57] <Bangers> n8tuser: have a guess which end you THINK I would want to change *if* I was SSH from a client to a dest then complaining the PATH wasnt available in the *destination* server?
[05:57] <Jordan_U> somethingclever: np, it will probably work without manually running modprobe from now on, if not then add "b43" to /etc/modules
[05:57] <n8tuser> Bangers-> its up to you, am not here to guess
[05:58] <Flannel> jimmacdonald: If you mean running the servers, etc.  That'd be canonical
[05:58] <somethingclever> Jordan_U, should i add it to be safe?
[05:58] <n8tuser> !attitude | Bangers
[05:58] <jimmacdonald> Flannel: I am looking for who manages the server. I need to reset my admin password
[05:58] <drh___> ok flannel. thank you
[05:58] <Jordan_U> somethingclever: I wouldn't
[05:58] <[a1]> HackBuntu: intrepid? i download that 3 weeks ego ...i got 8.10 Kernel linux here now :) rocks
[05:58] <HackBuntu> yeah, interpid ibex
[05:59] <entwine> hey
[05:59] <[a1]> HackBuntu: yoi hacker?
[05:59] <entwine> somebody know if this card is supported by ubuntu Dell Wireless 1370 LAN Mini-PCI Card
[05:59] <HackBuntu> al: Yes and no
[06:00] <[a1]> HackBuntu: how is that?
[06:00] <HackBuntu> lol
[06:00] <HackBuntu> al: Well, I have hacked successfully in the past
[06:00] <HackBuntu> al: but I still have a HELL OF A LOT TO LEARN
[06:00] <drakz> I'm new to linux i tried installing limewire, the install froze. 1. how do i close the frozen install, 2. I can't find where the file downloaded to on a fresh copy of ubuntu 8.10 please help
[06:01] <HackBuntu> ^go to the menubar (at the top) go System->System Monitor
[06:01] <r00tlinux> xkill from terminal
[06:01] <[a1]> how many webs you had?
[06:01] <r00tlinux> then click
[06:01] <r00tlinux> how do i shot web?
[06:01] <Jordan_U> drakz: gtk-gnutella is a client that uses the gnutella network, which is the network limewire uses
[06:01] <HackBuntu> I think that for someone new to linux, a GUI would be the best place to start when something fails
[06:01] <Jordan_U> drakz: It's available in the repositories
[06:02] <LinuxJunke> i need help with broadcom 4320 WPA Encryption
[06:02] <harveyd1> having a nightmare with locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[06:02] <entwine> :S
[06:02] <harveyd1> installed language-pack-en
[06:02] <r00tlinux> eh, it'll help them learn faster, the backgrounds of it....
 I think that for someone new to linux, a GUI would be the best place to start when something fails whats that mean?
[06:03] <r00tlinux> aimed at me saying for him to xkill from term.
[06:03] <HackBuntu> al, I was merely saying that my suggestion would be more helpful the r00tlinux
[06:03] <HackBuntu> 's
[06:03] <harveyd1> localconf doesnt seem to exist, dpkg-reconfigure files, export LC_ALL="en_GB" doesnt do anything
[06:03] <harveyd1> any ideas?
[06:03] <HackBuntu> al: for this particular user
[06:03] <Abe> hello all
[06:03] <HackBuntu> hi
[06:03] <Abe> i need help about this
[06:03] <Abe> Linux
[06:04] <Abe> could someone please help me out?
[06:04] <[a1]>  the r00tlinux
[06:04] <[a1]>  's?
[06:04] <HackBuntu> Abe
[06:04] <HackBuntu> What would you like to know?
[06:04] <Abe> like for example i downloaded the Ubuntu package
[06:04] <LinuxJunke> Hackbuntu can u help me out
[06:04] <HackBuntu> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[06:05] <Abe> or CD
[06:05] <[a1]> whatever am only 14
[06:05] <LinuxJunke> need help with broadcom 4320 wireless WPA encryption
[06:05] <Abe> and how do i installed it?
[06:05] <HackBuntu> al, what does age have to do with anything?
[06:05] <Abe> there's like two versions, one is Desktop and the other Server
[06:05] <[a1]> don'nt know
[06:05] <HackBuntu> lol, tut tut alex
[06:06] <HackBuntu> Abe: You will probably want the Desktop one
[06:06] <Jordan_U> Abe: You need to burn the .iso file to a CD, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[06:06] <Abe> wait can i use like Alcohol?
[06:07] <HackBuntu> Abe: What you need is
[06:07] <r00tlinux> yeah.
[06:07] <Abe> to mount the ISO img file?
[06:07] <HackBuntu> two things
[06:07] <HackBuntu> 1. ImgBurn
[06:07] <HackBuntu> 2. A CD Burner
[06:07] <HackBuntu> (make that 3)
[06:07] <Abe> oh ok
[06:07] <FloodBot1> HackBuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:07] <HackBuntu> 3. a CD
[06:07] <HackBuntu> so Abe, do you understand now?
[06:08] <Abe> i guess
[06:08] <HackBuntu> (By suggesting ImgBurn I am guessing that you're using Windows. If you're using another OS, tell me!)
[06:08] <Abe> and how do i install?
[06:08] <Abe> like making a partition?
[06:08] <HackBuntu> Once you've booted into the LiveCD
[06:08] <Abe> yes i am using Windows Vista
[06:08] <HackBuntu> (just don't click anything and wait for the timeout)
[06:08] <HackBuntu> Double click install
[06:08] <HackBuntu> (an icon on the Desktop
[06:08] <HackBuntu> )
[06:08] <Abe> oh so is it just like when you reformat the pc?
[06:08] <HackBuntu> yeah
[06:09] <l3d> ok My qt 4 settings are not changing my kde apps colors/themes for those apps and in version 8.10 I dont see kcontrol in synaptic so how would I go about makeing everything use one theme everything but the kde apps are using the one I have now.
[06:09] <HackBuntu> except, if you like (and have enough hard-disk space) you can have both Windows Vista and Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex
[06:09] <Jordan_U> Abe: You can either make a new partition or you can install to a file on your windows partition
[06:09] <Abe> oh ok, so it is that simple i guess, so i just insert the cd and wait and then click the icon and install, but how do i make a new partition?
[06:09] <Abe> sorry i'm still n00b
[06:09] <Static--> no need for a partition, you can install directly to a windows folder
[06:10] <Jordan_U> Abe: The installer will walk you through resizing your windows partition to make room for Ubuntu ( if you choose to repartition )
[06:10] <HackBuntu> wish me luck everyone, I'm going to attempt to upgrade Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 (Super Ubuntu, modified once more by me to make HackBuntu)
[06:10] <nemo> Why is it I'm unable to get ubuntu to poke me about upgrading my mom's computer? I've tried update-manager -p and update-manager -c
[06:10] <HackBuntu> Abe: Be very careful in this process
[06:10] <HackBuntu> try typing this into terminal
[06:10] <Abe> ?
[06:10] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | nemo
[06:11] <HackBuntu> sudo apt-get update
[06:11] <HackBuntu> sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:11] <BusterHymen> is concurrent booting enabled by default in 8.10?
[06:11] <Abe> wait i don't understand why you said to be careful HackBuntu
 i dont understand hacking
[06:11] <drakz> argh im having a hard time finding where my downloads are going into on a fresh install of 8.10
[06:11] <HackBuntu> al, talk about this on private chat
[06:11] <HackBuntu> or on this channel
[06:11] <HackBuntu> #hackbuntu
[06:12] <Jordan_U> drakz: What does firefox's download manager say?
[06:12] <HackBuntu> try install the DownThemAll addon for firefox
[06:12] <HackBuntu> should get at least 5x better speeds
[06:12] <nemo> ah. normal releases vs LTS. gotcha
[06:12] <drakz> im not sure, i didnt look sorry im new to linux all confusing to me atm
[06:12] <drakz> ok ill try that
[06:13] <Jordan_U> drakz: Firefox is pretty much the same on Linux as it is on windows
[06:13] <HackBuntu> k
[06:13] <nemo> something about Ibex - the upgrade tool prompted me to try the new fast-user-switch-applet - I turned it down at the time, is there a way to rerun that?
[06:13] <harveyd1> holy hell this is doing my head in
[06:13] <nemo> including creating the guest account and whatnot?
[06:13] <dcider> nemo: check your software sources and under updates / release upgrade choose the normal release
[06:13] <HackBuntu> yeah, linux will do that
[06:13] <Jordan_U> drakz: Tools > Downloads to see the download manager
[06:13] <nemo> dcider: yeah, I'm straight on the difference now
[06:13] <[a1]> HackBuntu: how can do you private?
[06:14] <Jordan_U> nemo: Yes, let me find the command
[06:14] <harveyd1>  locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[06:14] <nemo> Jordan_U: cool. thnx
[06:14] <harveyd1> installed ever -en package, done everthing ever google result has said
[06:14] <harveyd1> nothing
[06:14] <harveyd1> *every
[06:14] <nemo> harveyd1: my instinct on a "no such file or directory" is to run strace
[06:15] <Abe> hey anyone here programs in Java?
[06:15] <nemo> and see what file it didn't find :)
[06:15] <nemo> Abe: me
[06:15] <[a1]> HackBuntu ?
[06:15] <skenmon> hi
[06:15] <drakz> jordan_U what was the name of that addon u refered to me?
[06:15] <Abe> are you good at nemo?
[06:15] <guest_0> hey so i just did a clean install of intrepid... have a dual-head setup (1920x1200, and a 1600x1200). compiz fails to run, claiming that "comparing resolution 3520x1200 to maximum 3d texture size (2048) failed". if i force compiz on with SKIP_CHECKS, it starts, but all of the screen to the right of 1024 pixels is garbled. anything y'all can suggest?
[06:15] <nemo> Abe: lamenting the fact that debian/ubuntu seems to be the only distro out there that doesn't update eclipse?
[06:15] <Jordan_U> drakz: I didn't, I just suggested looking at firefox's built in download window
[06:15] <nemo> Abe: I 'spose. why?
[06:16] <Abe> no , it is just that i'm learning Java right now at school
[06:16] <Abe> ehhe,
[06:16] <acidicbase> why dont u just download eclispe
[06:16] <[a1]> HackBuntu ?
[06:16] <Abe> and i was curious
[06:16] <drakz> ok thought u said something about some type of addon to tell my downloads where to go manually
[06:16] <nemo> acidicbase: yes, and I could do that for every other piece of software on my system
[06:16] <nemo> acidicbase: but for some silly reason, I prefer to use package management to keep things organised
[06:17] <n8tuser> harveyd1-> what is the contents of your /etc/default/locale
[06:17] <acidicbase> the package manager doesn't use the newest
[06:17] <nemo> acidicbase: but, yeah, no choice now, I have to do that.  3.2 is so out of date it is becoming unusable
[06:17] <HackBuntu> al
[06:17] <nemo> acidicbase: no kidding?
[06:17] <HackBuntu> sorry, was helping entwine
[06:17] <HackBuntu> al, what IRC client are you using?
[06:17] <harveyd1> I dont have one
[06:17] <[a1]> HackBuntu: ok
[06:17] <Conexion> Hey there, I just did an 'update' on my nvidia card ... and now I seem to be stuck in 800x600... when I should be 1680 x 1050...  how might I go about fixing this?
[06:18] <Peddy1> Does anyone know of a dock that doesn't require a compositor or 3d graphics?
[06:18] <acidicbase> check your xorg file
[06:18] <[a1]> HackBuntu: xchat
[06:18] <HackBuntu> al: same
[06:18] <Jordan_U> nemo: "python /usr/share/gnome-panel/migrate-fusa-config.py"
[06:18] <drakz> jordan_U that gtk-gnutella prgram u suggested to me i found it the name of the file is  	gtk-gnutella-snapshot.tar.bz2 how do i install this exactly
[06:18] <nemo> Jordan_U: thanks again.
[06:18] <drakz> sry man im new to this
[06:18] <harveyd1> http://pastebin.me/492a4740780a6
[06:19] <drh___> gow do you add gpg key's to your keyring?
[06:19] <Jordan_U> Peddy1: There are composite managers that don't require 3D acceleration
[06:19] <drh___> s/gow/how/
[06:19] <HackBuntu> everyone go on #hackbuntu
[06:19] <Jordan_U> nemo: np
[06:19] <acp_> Conexion, you may want to look in to dpkg-reconfigure
[06:19] <Conexion> kk
[06:19] <[a1]> HackBuntu: xchat
[06:19] <HackBuntu> al: is it working?
[06:19] <Peddy1> Jordan_U: Does the built-in Metacity compositor require 3D acceleration?
[06:19] <brut-> so has there been a fix to the ubuntu 8.10 "network connection manager" not remembering a static ip address?
[06:19] <HackBuntu> I tried sending you a message
[06:19] <[a1]> HackBuntu: yes
[06:19] <brut-> I found it in the bugreports, but it didn't seem like there was a bugfix yet
[06:20] <harveyd1> ran that strace, theres quite a lot of files it didnt fine, most of them in /usr/lib/locale and /usr/share/locale-langpack
[06:20] <[a1]> HackBuntu: msg?
[06:20] <Jordan_U> drakz: Installing programs in Ubuntu is not like in windows, you don't generally google for a program's page and download it, there is a central repository that will download and install applications for you which you use by going to Applications > Add / Remove or System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[06:21] <Jordan_U> !software | drakz
[06:21] <srx2002> I have Ubuntu installed on my pc. is it possible to install windows XP as well?
[06:21] <acidicbase> yes
[06:21] <mjuad> Is there a good resource for information about compiling Ubuntu from source....everything from the ground up...kernel, userland tools, etc.
[06:21] <acidicbase> although its much easier the other way around
[06:21] <guest_0> hey so i just did a clean install of ubuntu intrepid... have a dual-head setup (1920x1200, and a 1600x1200). compiz fails to run, claiming that "comparing resolution 3520x1200 to maximum 3d texture size (2048) failed". if i force compiz on with SKIP_CHECKS, it starts, but all of the screen to the right of 1024 pixels is garbled. video card is ati mobility radeon 9000 64mb. anything y'all can suggest?
[06:21] <Peddy1> Jordan_U: It doesn't. Thanks for your help
[06:21] <srx2002> acidbase: was that for me
[06:22] <drh___> grr when i try to install epic 5 it says the following packages have unment dependencies epic5: depends : libperl5.8 ... but i have libperl 5.10 installed allready
[06:22] <drakz> Jordan_U thx, sry bout all the dumbas* questions
[06:22] <[a1]> HackBuntu: what you going to do with me?
[06:22] <HackBuntu> al: join #hackbuntu
[06:22] <srx2002> how would I go about installing XP ?
[06:22] <shad0w0fsin> srx2002: you can, but you'll need to reinstall grub after installing xp
[06:22] <[a1]> HackBuntu: dont hsckme plis
[06:23] <Jordan_U> drakz: np :)
[06:23] <dethdol> what is the best video card for gaming in ubuntu?
[06:23] <harveyd1> n8tuser: any idea how to fix? I have literally done everything found on google
[06:24] <HackBuntu> al: I have no reason to
[06:24] <HackBuntu> just go on this channel
[06:24] <arooni-mobile> i appreantly have a 200kb tif file that efax claims is multi-page....HOWEVER i've opened it with gpicview, evince, and the gimp and all of them claim that i don't have a multi page doc.  how can i know for sure?
[06:24] <HackBuntu> #hackbuntu
[06:25] <srx2002> certain programs I need for XP that will not run in ubuntu
[06:25] <HackBuntu> install wine
[06:25] <HackBuntu> type this into terminal
[06:25] <HackBuntu> sudo apt-get install wine
[06:25] <ikonia> HackBuntu: stop that now
[06:25] <ikonia> HackBuntu: stop advertising your channel here
[06:25] <HackBuntu> and you'll be able to run XP programs on ubuntu
[06:25] <ikonia> HackBuntu: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[06:25] <ikonia> HackBuntu: do you understand
[06:25] <srx2002> what is wine?
[06:26] <minime283> If I add a user to an nis server the changes aren't reflected in the client
[06:26] <HackBuntu> WINE: Wine Is Not an Emulator
[06:26] <acp_> !wine | srx2002
[06:26] <HackBuntu> links the windows API to the linux API (or something)
[06:26] <mjuad> Is there a good resource for information about compiling Ubuntu from source....everything from the ground up...kernel, userland tools, etc.
[06:26] <mjuad> it emulates the windows api
[06:26] <drakz> jordan_U: i tried using thesynaptic package manager and got this msg
[06:26] <drakz> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:26] <mjuad> it's just not an emulator in the traditional sense
[06:26] <drakz> E: _cache->open() failed, please report
[06:27] <HackBuntu> Which allows you to run windows programs on linux
[06:27] <Jordan_U> harveyd1: Have you tried making /etc/default/locale yourself? ( it's there by default on my 8.10 box btw )
[06:27] <mjuad> as in emulators which emulate the actual instructions of the architecture they're emulating
[06:27] <srx2002> I can try it, but my programs that I wanna run arn't very popular
[06:27] <[a1]> ese pemdejillo juanquer se la  creyo, ok a\pongamos esta madre en los logs ...quien se apunta ..quizas sean de debiab ,,,;)
[06:27] <HackBuntu> ikonia, what's the command to initiate a private chat?
[06:27] <sauvin> I have just enabled virtual something or other in the BIOS on my laptop, but /proc/cpuinfo does not reflect that fact under hardy heron (flag I think I'm looking for is VT). What gives?
[06:28] <HackBuntu> srx2002, nothing to lose by trying
[06:28] <mjuad> it's /part <usertochatwith>
[06:28] <Jordan_U> drakz: run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" in a terminal ( the package manager was interrupted while installing / updating something, this will let it continue )
[06:28] <dethdol> y cant i install anything based on dotnet in wine/
[06:28] <HackBuntu> srx2002, basically the only windows programs that don't work well with WINE are games (which they're working on) and
[06:28] <HackBuntu> things that need drivers
[06:29] <HackBuntu> like wireless tools
[06:29] <mjuad> you have to install dotnet
[06:29] <mjuad> or check out mono
[06:29] <nighthawk08> how do I configure a network card in the system
[06:29] <mjuad> it's an OSS implementation of dotnet
[06:29] <nighthawk08> ?
[06:29] <srx2002> flashedit, cemu, n2 edit, jkeys....etc.....
[06:30] <drh___> grr when i try to install epic 5 it says the following packages have unment dependencies epic5: depends : libperl5.8 ... but i have libperl 5.10 installed allready
[06:30] <mavsman4457> I upgraded to 8.10 and it messed up my skype, i tried uninstalling pulse and reinstalling it and it wouldn't work, I also tried changing the sound devices on skype and it didn't do anything either, what can I do?
[06:30] <mjuad> reinstall skype?
[06:31] <drh___> Does ubuntu have a console font that draws proper ascii art? like for use with epic?
[06:31] <mjuad> did you try that yet?
[06:31] <darkbishop> hai all.i keep getting "unable to resolve host me-irs" everytime i issue a sudo.think i read it somewhere how to solve it before but cant find it back.any help
[06:31] <Jordan_U> drh___: If you are sure that it will run with a newer version try forcing ignoring dependency problems
[06:31] <mjuad> drh___, there is a font i don't know what it's called...the only thing i use those fonts for is .nfo files
[06:31] <mjuad> and there is a program called nfoviewer i use for that
[06:31] <drh___> Jordan_U:  how do i do that?
[06:31] <drh___> mjuad hmm , could you guess?
[06:31] <mjuad> well
[06:32] <mjuad> it's not a font really...it's an encoding
[06:32] <drh___> i just want ascii graphics to show up properly in console.,., like lice themes etc...
[06:32] <drh___> those broken lines are ugly :>
[06:32] <mjuad> yeah they are...
[06:32] <guest_0> drh___: so you basically need a fixed-width font?
[06:32] <mjuad> monospace has the proper characters in it
[06:32] <mjuad> you'd just need to change your encoding
[06:32] <HackBuntu> al are you still around
[06:32] <dethdol> ne1 know how to fix the font in wine when play wow?
[06:33] <drh___> i have no idea ; i remember years ago the font default8x16 worked with redhat..
[06:33] <srx2002> is there anyway I can get my ubuntu desktop to display more clear and crisp text??
[06:33] <harveyd1> I fixed it
[06:33] <mjuad> guest_0, no, he's talking about making the characters up in the 200+ ascii range show up as the little boxes
[06:33] <drh___> but it may be different by now
[06:33] <harveyd1> logged out then in :|
[06:33] <mjuad> instead of the broken lines
[06:33] <SpAc> I about to set up my server with LVM but wanted to know if I have to keep /boot outside the LVM partition?
[06:33] <mjuad> or accented characters
[06:33] <Flannel> SpAc: yeah.  Well, you don't have to.  But its not fun.  Definately keep boot off of LVM
[06:33] <drh___> wow mjuad you just made me feel stupid heh.,, i could have never frazed that question like that.
[06:34] <srx2002> my res is 1280 X 800....but text espcially are not very crisp
[06:34] <brut-> that nm-connection-editor glitch is fun tbh
[06:34] <SpAc> Flannel: is it because of GRUB?
[06:34] <brut-> can't save any network settings, good times
[06:34] <mjuad> i felt that it was phrased badly :P
[06:34] <Flannel> SpAc: Yeah.  And you can technically do the RAMDISK thing and stuff, but I don't see how itd be worth it
[06:34] <mjuad> just a little more technical
[06:34] <drh___> this is frustrating im gonna go grab a drink
[06:34] <drh___> brb.
[06:35] <mjuad> this channel moves so fast with so many people...
[06:35] <mjuad> Is there a good resource for information about compiling Ubuntu from source....everything from the ground up...kernel, userland tools, etc.
[06:35] <HackBuntu> for anyone that wants non ubuntu support, or custom distro of ubuntu support, please have a look at #hackbuntu
[06:35] <SpAc> Flannel: ok. I found info that said you should keep it separate, but nothing telling me why.
[06:35] <Flannel> mjuad: Why on earth would you want to do that?
[06:36] <mjuad> why not?
[06:36] <Flannel> HackBuntu: Please don't advertise non-officia channels here.
[06:36] <mjuad> performance optimization is one reason
[06:36] <mjuad> not having all of the crap that comes on the desktop installation but still having the support & compatibility that is implied when running ubuntu
[06:37] <SpAc> I installed the 64-bit version of Ubuntu a while back, but it wasn't was too much trouble at the time. Is it becoming more common place now?
[06:37] <guest_0> mjuad: ah i see ok.... in that case, i don't know of a good font. :)
[06:37] <drh___> back.
[06:37] <Flannel> mjuad: You won't see a big increase.  And by compiling it yourself, you wont get the support.  You should look for a distro that's designed to be compiled if you're interested in something like that.
[06:37] <root__> a
[06:37] <mjuad> i messed with gentoo today
[06:37] <mjuad> and considering that i write ajax/php web apps for a living
[06:37] <mjuad> only having support for firefox 2.0.0.18 doesn't cut it
[06:37] <Flannel> SpAc: flash is really the last holdout for non-64 (and perhaps some wine things), and adobe is working on that.
[06:37] <drh___> mjuad:  do you have any suggestions on how to google search for that font?
[06:38] <SpAc> flannel: thanks again :)
[06:38] <BillHarris> Does the `on` command come in some Ubuntu package (as in `on thatmachine command`)?
[06:38] <guest_0> mjuad: don't know about compiling ubuntu from scratch... but there is a general "linux from scratch" which is reputed to be a really good learning experience, if you are up for the time expenditure.
[06:38] <guest_0> mjuad: look that up on the web if you are curious.
[06:38] <mjuad> yes i did it already with ubuntu
[06:38] <mjuad> err
[06:38] <mjuad> gentoo
[06:38] <mjuad> and i've compiled many bsd systems from scratch
[06:39] <SpAc> finally, the minimal CD image is no better than the server CD when it comes to installing a 'bare essentials' server is it?
[06:39] <jasonbc> sure you have
[06:39] <Flannel> SpAc: minimal CD is an alternate/server CD with no packages on it.  It instead gets the packages from the internet.
[06:39] <SpAc> Flannel: will it still install with the server kernel?
[06:40] <mjuad> is there a problem, jasonbc ?
[06:40] <Flannel> SpAc: Depends on whether you choose server or not.  You can also always just switch later
[06:41] <jasonbc> what are you , some kind of unix genious..?
[06:41] <SpAc> Flannel: Would that be during bootup or in the installer. I had a quick look at the only boot option that seemed relevant was 'cli'. I didn't venture too far in to the installer
[06:41] <mjuad> no
[06:41] <mjuad> compiling kernels & tools isn't rocket science
[06:41] <mjuad> but having some sort of reference for the distribution in question is generally a good idea
[06:42] <RAdams> How can I exclude a particular app from the current GTK theme? I want it to use the defaults set in the program...
[06:42] <jasonbc> it's not everyday that you here tell of someone claiming to have compiled whole systems , thats all
[06:42] <Flannel> SpAc: itd be in ... mmm, I haven't looked at the minimal CD in a while.  I believe it'd be in the installer.  But again, if you can't find it, you cna always just install the server kernel later.
[06:42] <Slart> jasonbc: eh.. what's with the attitude?.. there's really no need for it
[06:42] <mjuad> jason
[06:42] <mjuad> it's compiling
[06:42] <mjuad> you edit a fucking makefile
[06:42] <FloodBot1> mjuad: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:42] <Flannel> mjuad: Please watch your language
[06:43] <jasonbc> nevermind then
[06:43] <mjuad> i didn't say i was writing a system from scratch or creating a distribution, compiling kernels & tools is a fairly common practice if you've ever used anything but desktop linux
[06:43] <Flannel> !offtopic | mjuad
[06:43] <SpAc> Flannel: ok. it would be handy because I'm installing remotely.
[06:43] <guest_0> mjuad: i never got the urge to compile a whole distro from scratch (at least not a strong enough urge to actually do it). but i have compiled quite a few things back in my day...
[06:44] <jasonbc> @mjuad "and i've compiled many bsd systems from scratch"
[06:44] <HackBuntu> fun?
[06:44] <HackBuntu> .clear
[06:44] <mjuad> COMPILED
[06:44] <Slart> mjuad: I haven't seen that kind of technical information for ubuntu.. I guess it should be somewhere.. at least at canonical.. but perhaps they haven't made it available in a nice wiki-like format
[06:45] <mjuad> you are dense
[06:45] <brut-> does anyone have any information regarding the "connection manager" static IP bug?
[06:45] <RAdams> !manners | mjuad
[06:45] <mjuad> wow
[06:45] <jasonbc> you said that up there dude
[06:45] <Flannel> Guys, please take it elsewhere.  This channel is for support.
[06:45] <brut-> my only solution is go work around the glitch with a static reservation in my dhcp server
[06:45] <mjuad> yes, i did...and?
[06:45] <mjuad> Flannel, i was asking for support
[06:46] <jasonbc> just pointing that out
[06:46] <mjuad> and mr. smart guy here decided to pick a fight
[06:46] <Slart> jasonbc: why does this seem strange to you? take a look at gentoo.. or "linux from scratch"... it's not like he's claiming to be able to fly or something
[06:46] <mjuad> Slart, thank you
[06:46] <jasonbc> uh huh
[06:46] <Flannel> mjuad: Don't compile Ubuntu from scratch.  There's better distros out there to accomplish what you're looking to do.
[06:47] <RAdams> How can I exclude a particular app from the current GTK theme? I want it to use the defaults set in the program...
[06:47] <mjuad> Can you point me in the direction of one which actually has support for recent versions of common software?
[06:47] <altay> Does anyone know how to get apmsleep to work in Ubuntu?
[06:47] <Flannel> mjuad: I believe arch is popular right now.
[06:47] <mjuad> I'll check it out
[06:47] <kddi> hi, how can i project my acer extensa 4620 laptop to projector?
[06:47] <mjuad> Gentoo was a disappointment
[06:47] <guest_0> mjuad: well, gentoo is pretty current. arch linux is also presumably very current.
[06:47] <brut-> I'm guessing not... >8(
[06:48] <Slart> mjuad: nah.. I would say gentoo.. but I haven't tried it myself.. and I don't know how to fix the firefox problem.. sorry
[06:48] <mjuad> well it's just masked
[06:48] <mjuad> you can unmask it and compile it just fine
[06:48] <mjuad> but the fact that it's masked is just unimpressive to me
[06:48] <jasonbc> ubuntu 8.10 is a disappointment
[06:48] <RAdams> mjuad: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[06:48] <mjuad> considering that it's probably the single most common piece of software that someone looking to use a linux machine as a workstation would install
[06:48] <RAdams> jasonbc: make it better then.
[06:48] <brut-> I'm thinking so as well, with such a horrid glitch with network connectivity
[06:48] <guest_0> mjuad: what's the firefox problem?
[06:49] <Slart> jasonbc: do you have some kind of ubuntu question? if not, there are better channels for rants.. #ubuntu-offtopic is one
[06:49] <Ohmu> How do I find out which version of Ubuntu I have?  For most applications it is easy to find this.  I suggest that Ubuntu provides this information in system -> about Ubuntu.   Or even create an entry System -> about my system, which would contain hardware details, Ubuntu & Linux kernel version numbers and network connectivities...
[06:49] <guest_0> jasonbc: in what sense: what doesn't work for you? it seems to work just fine for me... (though admittedly, i did just install it today... :) )
[06:49] <mjuad> RAdams, thank you
[06:49] <jasonbc> yes i do , why the h*ll do i have to keep on restarting this thing
[06:49] <Flannel> Ohmu: lsb_release -a
[06:50] <RAdams> !doesntwork | jasonbc
[06:50] <RAdams> mjuad: no problem
[06:50] <jasonbc> and why does my ram get all used up
[06:50] <SpAc> Flannel: Does the guided LVM install separate /boot outside of the LVM partition?
[06:50] <navetz> is there a good p2p client in the repos? I am looking to download soem songs.
[06:50] <RAdams> navetz: frostwire
[06:50] <Naddiseo> jasonbc, it's probably cached, not used.
[06:50] <kddi> hi, how can i project my acer extensa 4620 laptop screen to projector?
[06:50] <Slart> jasonbc: you seem to have things to unlearn.. linux is not windows
[06:50] <navetz> RAdams: its not in the repos anymore :( I use to use it
[06:50] <Flannel> SpAc: I believe it does.  But I haven't installed in forever, so it may have changed/my memory could be bad/etc
[06:51] <jasonbc> i know that smarty pants
[06:51] <Slart> jasonbc: unused memory is wasted memory.. linux uses all the memory it can find for buffers/cache
[06:51] <Andmat09> Is there anyone here that is familiar with setting up Dual Monitors (with Desktop effects) in Ubuntu 8.10.........WITH ATI CARD?
[06:51] <brut-_> thats cute, xchat takes you to #ubuntu on a fresh install... :)
[06:51] <RAdams> !twinview | andmat09
[06:51] <RAdams> bah, wrong name
[06:51] <RAdams> what's ati using?
[06:52] <RAdams> there's a good wiki article on it
[06:52] <guest_0> Andmat09: i am, as of today. :) though i have failed to set up the desktop effects, because my gfx card is not powerful enough to do compiz on my combined 3520x1200 resolution. tell me what you want to know.
[06:52] <jasonbc> Slart - so to the point that the system becomes so slow that it is un-useable...?
[06:52] <RAdams> let me go look, Andmat09
[06:52] <altay> Anyone here know how to get apmsleep to work in Ubuntu?
[06:52] <theplastikjesus> ok, i cant play.mp3s with a fresh install of linux?
[06:52] <Flannel> !dualhead | Andmat09, RAdams
[06:52] <mjuad> theplastikjesus, there are licensing issues with the mp3 format
[06:52] <srx2002> Is there a way I can do a complete backup of my system, I have everything just the way I like it and I'd like to make a " recovery dvd " or my entire system in the rare event that I get a system crash. All i would have to do is to insert that dvd/cd and push my system would be recovered to the state it's at right now?
[06:52] <guest_0> theplastikjesus: look up the medibuntu repository. you can get the codecs and stuff.
[06:52] <mjuad> you'll have to find the codec & install it
[06:52] <RAdams> yes, that's it
[06:53] <Slart> jasonbc: that's probably something else.. how much memory do you have?
[06:53] <Ohmu> How do I install a real-time kernel?  I'm using hardy.
[06:53] <RAdams> theplastikjesus: if you try to play one in rhythmbox, it ought to offer a codec for install
[06:53] <Flannel> Ohmu: why do you want to use the realtime kernel?
[06:53] <jasonbc> Slart - 512 mb's
[06:53] <kddi> hi, how can i project my acer extensa 4620 laptop screen onto the projector?
[06:53] <visof> hello
[06:53] <theplastikjesus> RAdams: yeh it did then nothing happened
[06:54] <RAdams> theplastikjesus: did the codec install successfully? did you restart rhythmbox afterwards?
[06:54] <visof> the sound is stopped suddenly and i don't know what should i do ?
[06:54] <Slart> jasonbc: shouldn't really be a problem as long as you don't run several big memory hungry apps at the same time..
[06:54] <guest_0> kddi: what version of ubuntu are you running? it should be pretty easy to do with intrepid, with the fancy gui screen setup panel.
[06:54] <srx2002> anyone?
[06:54] <kddi> hardy
[06:54] <theplastikjesus> radams: no ill try that
[06:54] <jasonbc> @ Slart - wich i don't
[06:54] <Slart> jasonbc: you might want to try out xubuntu just to see if it feels any snappier... it's supposed to be a little bit leaner
[06:55] <RAdams> How can I exclude a particular app from the current GTK theme? I want it to use the defaults set in the program...
[06:55] <kddi> guest_0: 8.04
[06:55] <Naddiseo> srx2002, I believe there are a few in the repos
[06:55] <Ohmu> Flannel, http://appdb.winehq.org/commentview.php?iAppId=2077&iVersionId=13563&iThreadId=42727
[06:55] <altay> Anyone know how to make apmsleep work in 8.10?
[06:55] <theplastikjesus> RAdams: did not work
[06:55] <jasonbc> @ Slart - i've tried xubuntu but couldn't get by with it , it just wouldn't boot again after being restarted
[06:55] <theplastikjesus> and im not finding anything on medibuntu
[06:55] <Flannel> Ohmu: Alright.  install linux-rt
[06:56] <visof> is there any help ?
[06:56] <theplastikjesus> is there some kind of mp3 codec i can install in theadd/remove deal under applications?
[06:56] <RAdams> theplastikjesus: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[06:56] <Slart> jasonbc: you can also try shutting off the file indexer.. shut down unneeded services.. ie don't run cups if you don't print etc
[06:56] <jasonbc> @ Slart - how do you shut off the file indexer...?
[06:57] <theplastikjesus> RAadams: I am new to linux, i need to do that in terminal?
[06:57] <guest_0> kddi: well, afaik, hardy also has the fancy gui screen setup panel. in system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[06:57] <Slart> jasonbc: that's about all the advice I have.. you'll have to ask the channel for further help since I have to run now
[06:57] <RAdams> theplastikjesus: that, or synaptic. you can search that package in synaptic, or sudo aptitude install package-name
[06:57] <jasonbc> thanks
[06:57] <RAdams> in terminal
[06:58] <theplastikjesus> RAdams ok ill give that a try
[06:58] <altay> Does anyone here know anything about apmsleep?
[06:59] <SpAc> Flannel: I take it the swap partition can be inside the LVM?
[06:59] <visof> altay %man apmsleep
[06:59] <RAdams> altay: is this your issue? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=227404
[06:59] <altay> I know what apmsleep does
[06:59] <Flannel> SpAc: It can be, yes
[06:59] <RAdams> visof: that's extremely unhelpful
[06:59] <altay> I just need to recompile my kernel with support for it
[07:00] <altay> and I don't know which options I need to enable
[07:00] <gbear14275> anyone around that knows how to reset apache?
[07:00] <SpAc> Flannel: is the rule still twice the ram size?
[07:01] <Flannel> SpAc: For some values of RAM size.  How much do you have?
[07:01] <visof> is there anyone can help me ?
[07:01] <theplastikjesus> RAdams: TY got it workin now
[07:01] <gbear14275> SpAc, more depends on your needs... I went time and a half because I had 4 gigs already
[07:01] <RAdams> theplastikjesus: good deal :)
[07:01] <dcider> jasonbc system/preferences/search and indexing/performance..throttling to slower/resource usage to minamize
[07:01] <theplastikjesus> =)
[07:01] <theplastikjesus> i like music lol
[07:01] <jeb1> is there a way to install the AIM client on Ubuntu 8.10?
[07:02] <SpAc> Flannel: ok, I have 4 gigs already too and I thought an 8 gig swap might be a bit excessive... although it is a server
[07:02] <RAdams> jeb1: pidgin
[07:02] <RAdams> jeb1: the official aim client does not support linux
[07:02] <ardchoille> jeb1: pidgin does aim nicely
[07:02] <jeb1> i saw one on the AIM website, older than all heck, but it's on there
[07:02] <Flannel> SpAc: Yeah.  That's excessive.  Unless you think you'll need the 8G.  Since you wont be hibernating, you could get by with less too.  (To hibernate, you need your RAM size in swap at least)
[07:02] <jeb1> and i can't figure out how to install it
[07:03] <ardchoille> jeb1: is there a reason you don't want to use pidgin?
[07:03] <siebo> I'm trying to install a dedicated python for my buildout on ubuntu 8.10, but I get the following error
[07:03] <siebo> checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[07:03] <siebo> I installed everything I could think dependency wise:
[07:04] <siebo> build-essentials, gcc, g++, python2.4-dev
[07:04] <jasonbc> thank you dcider
[07:04] <siebo> this is the output from my config.log http://pastie.org/322385
[07:04] <Flannel> siebo: it's build-essential,
[07:04] <RAdams> jeb1: AIM for linux is no longer maintained. Try Pidgin, you'll come to like it, I think
[07:04] <jasonbc> it's the same thing anyway
[07:05] <altay> RAdams: Yes, that's my issue, but that solution won't work. I never had a compatible kernel. I'd like to recompile my kernel with support for APM and /dev/rtc/ , and I've gotten to the point where I choose the kernel options, but I don't know where I can select APM and /dev/rtc support
[07:05] <jeb1> is there any way to do file transfers, etc. with AIM on Ubuntu?
[07:05] <RAdams> altay: hmm. This may actually be a good question for #linux
[07:05] <RAdams> jeb1: Pidgin. Pidgin Pidgin Pidgin
[07:05] <jeb1> you cannot do a file transfer on Pidgin
[07:05] <brut-> does anyone have any input at all regarding the ubuntu 8.10 network manager not remembering static settings...? I've seen the bug report, but that didn't contain any useful information for fixing it...
[07:06] <jeb1> AFAIK
[07:06] <altay> RAdams: I'm new to IRC. How do I got to #linux?
[07:06] <jasonbc> yes you can
[07:06] <jeb1> how?
[07:06] <RAdams> altay: /j #linux
[07:06] <siebo> why can't it can't see my g++ for example
[07:06] <srx2002> Is there a way I can do a complete backup of my system, I have everything just the way I like it and I'd like to make a " recovery dvd " or my entire system in the rare event that I get a system crash. All i would have to do is to insert that dvd/cd and push my system would be recovered to the state it's at right now?
[07:06] <altay> RAdams: thanks
[07:06] <jeb1> lol...nvm
[07:06] <jasonbc> long explanation
[07:06] <jeb1> stuff is buried in the menus :-P
[07:06] <RAdams> !backup | srx2002
[07:07] <RAdams> jeb1: create an aim account, start a chat with a buddy, Conversation menu --> Send File
[07:08] <jeb1> is there a way to start a group chat on Pidgin?
[07:08] <RAdams> jeb1: From the Buddy List, Buddies --> Join a Chat
[07:09] <jeb1> does the exchange matter?
[07:09] <gbear14275> my server is crawling on ssh
[07:09] <gbear14275> whats the best way to figure out whats eating up the cpu
[07:09] <werdnum> Hello :)
[07:10] <dcider> system monitor
[07:10] <gbear14275> how do i open that up in an ssh session... I'm a beginner by far :-/
[07:10] <guest_0> gbear14275: top
[07:10] <gbear14275> there it is... thank you guest_0
[07:11] <DrUnKnMuNkY> hey everyone. i can't connect to any encrypted wireless networks anymore in 8.10. Anyone else had this problem?
[07:11] <guest_0> gbear14275: enjoy. :) you might also like "htop" (it's in the repos). more features, just as console-friendly.
[07:11] <werdnum> My kate crashes every time I try to click 'open'. It appears to die with a SIGSEGV (segmentation fault). I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 (with GDM), and Kate from KDE 4.1.2.
[07:11] <RAdams> jeb1: yes, but leave it at default
[07:11] <jeb1> ok
[07:12] <RAdams> alright, sleeptime. jeb1, there's a pidgin support channel as well: #pidgin. Night all
[07:13] <jeb1> is there an applet like MMC in Ubuntu?
[07:14] <koshari> srx2002 use partimage
[07:14] <gbear14275> guest_0 thanks for the tip but this is production and my buddy who knows what he is doing would not like me messing around with new installs
[07:14] <gbear14275> top says nothing is running yet ssh is crawling
[07:14] <SeeWhy>  echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches >>> what does this conmmand do ?
[07:15] <gbear14275> anyone have any ideas on why that might happen
[07:18] <nillerz> Hello I have a problem with microphone audio
[07:19] <nillerz> I can't get audio to record, can someone help me out?
[07:22] <guest_0> gbear14275: how's your network connection?
[07:22] <entwine> :S
[07:24] <Kengine> I have some files in my Trash that I cant delete, it says "I dont have permission to modif parent folder" how do I delete the files
[07:24] <theplastikjesus> I just got up and running on ubuntu 8.10, Im new to linux all together and im trying to find some options on customizing my desktop out. Can someone point me to some documentation or programs that would be helpfull, please?
[07:25] <theplastikjesus> i want a hot lookin box!
[07:25] <theplastikjesus> lol
[07:25] <jameson> ok odd situation .... the turn off button just dissapeared all i have it switch user and the other ones but no turn off
[07:25] <ikonia> theplastikjesus: www.gnome-look.org
[07:26] <theplastikjesus> ikonia: ty
[07:26] <Guest22181> hey i need some help
[07:26] <ikonia> Guest22181: then ask th question
[07:26] <Guest22181> i am using ubuntu and im trying to connect to my internet using the wireless card now when i set things up it goes internet is disconnected
[07:27] <ikonia> Guest22181:  you can't have the wirless and wired lan on the same network at the same time
[07:27] <ikonia> (well not without a lot of hassle)
[07:28] <Guest22181> um but i wasnt using my cord
[07:28] <LoveGuru> Hi, Need Some help with squid/apache i m running website at my linux box now im trying to open my website but its *not working now gave me error in return can someoone help with " http://paste.ubuntu.com/76266/ " thanks.
[07:28] <Guest22181> i am now because i cant connect any other way
[07:28] <Guest22181> !wireless
[07:28] <gbear14275> guest_0 mine is great
[07:28] <Guest22181> dont worry....
[07:28] <ikonia> Guest22181: I'm not sure what your saying, when you enable your wirless card, the router has connection problems, or do you mean just the machine with the wirless card
[07:29] <gbear14275> guest_0, the other server we have with the same host seems ok too
[07:29] <gbear14275> but this one is really slow
[07:29] <mola_mola> hi all
[07:29] <paul68> how do I export the display from my server to my laptop?
[07:30] <Jordan_U> paul68: ssh -X
[07:30] <Andmat09> Okay here is my issue.......
[07:30] <Andmat09> I have dual monitors, both are identical, 1440x900. I can get 2880x900 resolution no prolbem but with that resolution i am unable to enable visual effects to Normal, If i go to enable it it askes to enable a "the ATI/AMD driver, which will Kill my dual monitors after a restart and they will be mirrored back to 1440x900, any ideas on how to get 2880x900 WITH Visual Effects enabled??
[07:30] <Andmat09> I can get the Desktop Visual Effects to work with a resolution of 1400x1800
[07:30] <Andmat09> (monitors stacked)
[07:31] <Andmat09> byt not 2880x900
[07:31] <Andmat09> any ideas?
[07:31] <ikonia> Andmat09: the dual headed config with the closed source ati drivers is limited
[07:31] <paul68> Jordan_U: ssh -X username@myip my port is that correct?
[07:31] <Boohbah> i got dual 12-year-old video cards
[07:31] <ikonia> Andmat09: I suggest you move to #ati and ask for the correct driver  / xorg options as I don't even beliebve the ati dual headed config will support compiz style effects
[07:32] <acidicbase> ssh -Y or -X will work
[07:32] <Jordan_U> Andmat09: Probably that the maximum texture size of your GPU is somewhere between 1800 and 2880
[07:32] <paul68> Jordan_U: does this also work while rebooting or is that to much to ask
[07:32] <paul68> Jordan_U: rebooting the server that is
[07:33] <Jordan_U> paul68: What do you mean "while rebooting", I think I may have misunderstood your question, I thought you were talking about the $DISPLAY environment variable
[07:33] <D3LTA> can someone give me some good hint or help installing Ffmpeg Ffmpeg Php Mplayer Mencoder Flv2tool Lame Mp3 Encoder
[07:33] <Andmat09> Ya, i think im screwed, I guess i just may have to upgrade to Nvida...
[07:33] <D3LTA> i can't get it to work
[07:33] <defrysk> D3LTA, get the medibuntu repo
[07:33] <D3LTA> so frustrating!
[07:33] <D3LTA> defrysk does is work out of the box ?
[07:34] <defrysk> D3LTA, likely yes
[07:34] <D3LTA> defrysk did you try it ?
[07:34] <paul68> Jordan_U: there is a way to export your display from the server towards the laptop right? the question is does this also goes when you reboot your server or does it close the connection in the progress
[07:34] <defrysk> ffmpeg did
[07:34] <D3LTA> lol :)
[07:34] <D3LTA> need all of it to work
[07:35] <D3LTA> for like PHPmotion or vidiscript or vshare
[07:35] <defrysk> D3LTA, not sure about those
[07:35] <cordor> I have problem with java plugins for firefox. do i need to renice it? i have an applet that redraw it's tables and buttons extremely slow.
[07:35] <D3LTA> thanks anyway i will try!
[07:36] <D3LTA> damm 4 days of trying 20 installation and still not working
[07:36] <cordor> actually, it doesn't redraw most of the component unless mouse over it.
[07:37] <gbear14275> what command will tell me my system specs... is there one?
[07:37] <someone> hi
[07:37] <ikonia> gbear14275: what item do you wnt to check ?
[07:37] <gbear14275> cpu
[07:38] <gbear14275> what kind
[07:38] <adantan_alex> i need help
[07:38] <adantan_alex> my wireless card wont find net works on ubuntu....
[07:38] <Jordan_U> gbear14275: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:39] <Jordan_U> adantan_alex: What chipset?
[07:39] <adantan_alex> 1 sec
[07:39] <mannytu> I had to load a driver...
[07:39] <maveas> Hi guys. What is the fastest way to remove old kernel version for a newb?
[07:39] <ikonia> maveas: why do you want to remove an old verison
[07:40] <adantan_alex> dell wireless 1350
[07:40] <ikonia> maveas: I asssume not the one your running
[07:40] <maveas> ikonia: yes, it's an old one.. why should I have it?
[07:41] <gbear14275> anyway other than ping to check connectivity?
[07:41] <ikonia>  maveas no problem then, just open synaptic, search for linux-kernel and remove the kernel you don't wwant
[07:41] <Boohbah> adantan_alex: lspci -v |grep Net
[07:41] <ikonia> gbear14275: connectivity to what ?
[07:41] <adantan_alex> im going to come back on ubuntu
[07:41] <cregy> Hi All just joined the channel
[07:41] <adantan_alex> could u plz pm me the command?
[07:42] <dcider> maveas: or you can use startup manager and set the number of kernels to save
[07:42] <ikonia> cregy: we saw
[07:42] <Boohbah> cregy: hi. i am here too
[07:42] <adantan_alex> boohbah: hey can u plz pm me when i get back? the command?
[07:42] <Boohbah> adantan_alex: ok
[07:42] <adantan_alex> thanks
[07:43] <cregy> Thanks sorry if that was a funny thing to do - never used an irc client or chat room before but have a few questions to ask
[07:43] <maveas> dcider: that sound difficult?
[07:43] <ikonia> cregy: don't worry, just ask away
[07:43] <Boohbah> cregy: you're doing a great job so far!
[07:43] <ikonia> maveas: just remove the kernel you don't want from synaptic - it's just a package
[07:44] <maveas> ikonia: I'll do that. Thanks :)
[07:44] <dcider> nottha_k, just install it from applications and pick a number of old kernels to keep
[07:45] <cregy> I need to set up a server and want to use ubuntu. I have a nas box and also a mac serving Sage. I want to use ubuntu to control the network and protect the network.
[07:45] <ikonia> cregy: seems reasonab,e and no problem
[07:45] <Andmat09> Since it seems impossible to have a Dual monitor set up with Desktop Effects, running an ATI X800 Pro, what would be reasonable to go with when upgrading video cards?
[07:46] <cregy> I am going to add three network cards. 1. To serve client. 2. to serve the nas and mac and 3. to handle wireless
[07:46] <theplastikjesus> How can i get a toolbar looking thing for ubuntu 8.10 like this theme has at the bottom of the picture here?   http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2&id=55440&file1=55440-1.jpg&file2=55440-2.jpg&file3=55440-3.jpg&name=Vortigo+++(+3D%2BVU%2BBeryl%2BDock+)
[07:46] <cregy> Does this sound sensible and am I in the right place to ask these questions please?
[07:47] <ikonia> cregy: seems over the top to put a client and nas card in , but it's your call
[07:48] <cregy> I am learning. You would just have two cards then?
[07:48] <Boohbah> ikonia: the disk can probably saturate the network
[07:48] <ikonia> Boohbah: which is why I said "it's his call" it depends on his network size
[07:48] <gbear14275> ikonia, i'm trying to diagnose a down server... and don't know how..., my pings were returning quite high it seemed and so wasn't sure the best way to check connectivity
[07:48] <ikonia> cregy: depends on the speed of the cards/network/switches
[07:48] <ikonia> cregy: and how many people your going to serve
[07:48] <Boohbah> gbear14275: traceroute, nmap,  nc
[07:49] <zeno> is there a gnome terminal like yakuake (drop down on button push, tabs)?  Its buggy in compiz
[07:49] <J2000_ca> Does anyone know why samba would seem to lag when applying permissions e.g. ~$ mkdir .wine; mkdir .wine/test mkdir: cannot create directory `.wine/test': Permission denied ~$ mkdir .wine/test
[07:49] <ikonia> gbear14275: traceroute is quite valid, you may want to try telneting to open ports on the network
[07:49] <cregy> I am running a network of 15 machines and 6 remote. Probably around 8/10 users at any one time but it could be the full 21! but rarely
[07:49] <cypherdelic> does anyone else have ubuntu that can confirm that (no libopenal.so.0)? it would really suck if old packages linked against libopenal.so.0 are blocked from being used with openal soft just because they can't be relinke
[07:49] <Boohbah> J2000_ca: probably an authentication timeout
[07:50] <ikonia> cregy: 1 nic and 1 wirless seems fine
[07:50] <J2000_ca> Boohbah: would it do it 100% of the time?
[07:50] <cregy> I have two switches - netgear 16 ports running a mixture of 100/1000 depending on the computers (which are xp)
[07:50] <Boohbah> J2000_ca: if you are querying some other server for samba authentication... not sure about your setup
[07:50] <gbear14275> trying traceroute now... just gotta google the commands
[07:50] <ikonia> gbear14275: the command is traceroute
[07:50] <Boohbah> traceroute 123.45.67.89
[07:51] <cregy> Yes the network will query the nas box and also the mac for samba
[07:51] <Boohbah> cregy: not a bad idea to have a dedicated nic for a nas box
[07:51] <J2000_ca> Boohbah: ubuntu libpam-mount, openbsd samba (I just created the smb account locally)
[07:51] <laszo> #help
[07:51] <someone1> my wireless card doesnt connect to the internet
[07:52] <someone1> and im using a dell wireless 1350
[07:52] <Boohbah> J2000_ca: check samba logs for clues?
[07:52] <Boohbah> someone1: lspci -v |grep Net
[07:52] <someone1> thanks
[07:52] <panas55s> on ubuntu 8.10, trying to make a logitech 9000 pro quickcam work does any body know how ? please..
[07:52] <cypherdelic> I have a problem installing FreeSpace2-Open via Tureys installer. I installed OpenAL via Synaptic but the installer keeps saying:Post-Installation Notes for FreeSpace Open 3.6.9 Linux Executables (64-bit) You'll need OpenAL to play the game. - Pleasse help me!.
[07:52] <Boohbah> someone1: to find out the actual chipset manufacturer... Dell doesn't make wireless chips
[07:53] <cregy> If I have dedicated cards for the clients and a dedicated card for the nas/mac will it be more secure/slow things down please? Will it help in terms of security when remote access?
[07:53] <someone1> its got the wireless card?
[07:53] <someone1> wireless card*
[07:53] <laszo> ##net
[07:53] <someone1> it sais my wireless card
[07:53] <ikonia> laszo: stop saying channel names
[07:54] <someone1> damn cya guys
[07:54] <ikonia> laszo: stop saying channel names
[07:54] <ikonia> laszo: do you want help
[07:54] <tsrk> Hey, I just felt like I should come in to thank the Ubuntu devs, cause I swear I got my homework done 10 times as fast as I would have on Windows (which would barely run the last time I tried it).  Apart from a few minor problems, Ubuntu 8.10 has been great!
[07:54] <jameson> hey i lost my shut down on my quit button any suggestions??
[07:55] <Slart> jameson: might be a permissions problem.. have you messed with groups or users lately?
[07:55] <Boohbah> jameson: sudo shutdown -h now
[07:55] <jameson> what will that do ?
[07:56] <Boohbah> jameson: exactly what it sounds like ;)
[07:56] <jameson> but i need to get the button bck
[07:56] <Boohbah> jameson: what did you do to lose the button?
[07:56] <jameson> i dont need to shut down... my prob is when i click my quit button  all the  log off.switch user... buttons are there but no shut down
[07:57] <zeno> where do you set the gnome mount options?
[07:57] <jameson> and i dont see any settings to put it back
[07:57] <DrUnKnMuNkY> hey everyone. i can't connect to any encrypted wireless networks anymore in 8.10. Anyone else had this problem?
[07:57] <ikonia> DrUnKnMuNkY: no
[07:57] <jameson> i think i lost it somehow when i assigned a new login page
[07:58] <jameson> but when i set it back its still not htere
[07:58] <zeno> DrUnKnMuNkY: its a new network monitor, its in top right
[07:59] <nomingzi> instead of using VMware Server 2.0 - what other way i can run Windows Vista as a Guest and Ubuntu 8.10 Desktop as host ?
[07:59] <jameson> understand ?
[07:59] <Boohbah> DrUnKnMuNkY: what's your wireless chipset? is the driver module loaded?
[07:59] <DrUnKnMuNkY> zeno: the problem's that i can connect to unencrypted wireless networks but i can't connect to anything encrypted (wep,wpa,wpa2). i've tried searching the forums and haven't found anything yet
[07:59] <Boohbah> nomingzi: virtualbox
[07:59] <DrUnKnMuNkY> Boohbah: it's the intel ipw2200 chipset.. the module's loaded (tried rmmod ipw2200 then modprobe 2200
[08:00] <zeno> DrUnKnMuNkY: hmmm im connected to encrypted, is the right key type and right key entered?
[08:00] <nomingzi> can virtualbox add wireless adapter as my virtual network connection ?
[08:00] <zeno> nomingzi: i think so but y
[08:00] <Boohbah> nomingzi: yes as long as your host OS supports it
[08:01] <zeno> is there a gnome terminal like yakuake (drop down on button push, tabs)?  Its buggy in compiz
[08:01] <DrUnKnMuNkY> zeno: the right key's entered.. i know that the network's working as it should. the strange thing though is that if i enter the key, when it pops up asking for it the second time it shows a different key. i'm pretty confused by this
[08:01] <nomingzi> VMware Server cannot add wireless connection as my virtual network connection :(
[08:01] <DrUnKnMuNkY> zeno: the gnome terminal has tabs (file -> new tab). you might also wanna check out terminator
[08:02] <Slart> zeno: have you tried yeahconsole?
[08:02] <arooni-mobile> i've got a samsung laserjet connected to BigArooni (192.168.0.101) on my network running ubuntu hardy.   i want to print from it from LilArooni (192.168.0.102), my laptop, also running hardy.  i went to admin => printers, added the printer, and could see the printer on my desktop.  when i go to print however print queue shows status as "Held" ... when i try to release it, it goes back to held...ideas?
[08:02] <zeno> DrUnKnMuNkY: try editing the network in the edit connections wireless then the one u want
[08:02] <maveas> What does rmmod do?
[08:02] <zeno> Slart: nope will thx
[08:02] <Boohbah> nomingzi: why don't you use a wired virtual connection in the guest? it can still be sent to your wired physical connection
[08:03] <Boohbah> err your wireless physical device...
[08:03] <krupa^> hello all! anyone have idea how i write a rewrite_rules for apache server inside sites-enabled dir instad of htaccess ? ... thanks!
[08:04] <DrUnKnMuNkY> zeno: i've tried doing that.. everytime i save the key and hit save.. when i open it up again there's a different key. same for all encrypted networks, not just the one i'm trying to use now
[08:04] <ikonia> krupa^: #apache would be the best palce to ask
[08:04] <ikonia> place even
[08:04] <nomingzi> Boohbah: VMware Server cannot recognize that my host PC has a wireless connection :(
[08:05] <Boohbah> DrUnKnMuNkY: have you checked launchpad for a bug?
[08:05] <J2000_ca> Boohbah: nothing shows up in the logs or dmesg. It's seems to be working just really slowly for some reason.
[08:05] <theplastikjesus> does 8.10 come with compiz installed?
[08:05] <DrUnKnMuNkY> Boohbah: i'm trying to find one now. haven't found one yet. found similar problems in the forums and the problems either weren't fixed or the solutions didn't work for me
[08:06] <Slart> theplastikjesus: yes
[08:06] <theplastikjesus> ok im not finding it on this installation
[08:06] <Slart> theplastikjesus: it's called "desktop effects" .. but it's compiz alright
[08:06] <Slart> theplastikjesus: system, preferences, appearance
[08:06] <cypherdelic> I have a problem installing FreeSpace2-Open via Tureys installer. I installed OpenAL via Synaptic but the installer keeps saying:Post-Installation Notes for FreeSpace Open 3.6.9 Linux Executables (64-bit) You'll need OpenAL to play the game. - Pleasse help me!.
[08:07] <Slart> theplastikjesus: the "visual effects" tab
[08:07] <theplastikjesus> slart: how do i get the 3d cube thing from compiz
[08:07] <Slart> !ccsm | theplastikjesus
[08:07] <Slart> !cube | theplastikjesus
[08:07] <zeno> Slart: hmm yeahconsole didnt appear to do anything
[08:07] <Slart> zeno: have you started it?
[08:07] <Boohbah> nomingzi: have you tried using a NAT interface instead of a bridged interface?
[08:07] <zeno> Slart: entered yeahconsole and .... nothing happens
[08:07] <DrUnKnMuNkY> Boohbah: i think i may have narrowed the problem down to wpa_supplicant. either that or the way the passwords are being stored. there's a lot going on for a wireless connection so it's hard to pin down
[08:07] <Slart> zeno: last time I used it it remained hidden until you pressed a button.. you might have to configure which button to use first
[08:08] <Slart> zeno: but you've read the man page.. haven't you? sure you have ;)
[08:09] <nomingzi> Boohbah: hmm... nope... I will try it later - i m currently not at the host PC - anyway many thanks
[08:09] <zeno> Slart: yes but i dont see which button to show it
[08:10] <Slart> zeno:  "key combo that toggles yeahconsole. Default is ControlAlt+y"
[08:10] <zeno> Slart: ah yeah a more thoughough reading got that right as u said thx
[08:10] <Ayabara> I want to use the Consolas font for emacs. How can I install that one on my system?
[08:11] <LinuxJunke> raedon 7000 having troubles getting the 3d too work etc
[08:11] <Slart> zeno: you're welcome
[08:11] <oxdot> hi guys ... is there a way to change HD driver on 8.10 at boot time ? i can not acces some partition with ubuntu (... special device not exist), but i can acces it on my ipcop box ??? (2.4)
[08:11] <gbear14275> what is an EOF?
[08:11] <Boohbah> gbear14275: end of file
[08:11] <gbear14275> I'm trying to write to a user on this machine and it says a messages is ended with an EOF
[08:12] <Boohbah> oxdot: what sort of partition is it?
[08:12] <gbear14275> that a specific string? or symbol?
[08:12] <zeno> gbear14275: end of file
[08:12] <Boohbah> gbear14275: usually ctrl-d
[08:12] <oxdot> Boohbah, ext3
[08:12] <maveas_> damm
[08:12] <Slart> oxdot: what kind of devices is it that you can't access?
[08:12] <Boohbah> oxdot: do you have an old hd controller?
[08:13] <oxdot> Boohbah, ide (WD 400GB)
[08:13] <maveas_> I've just installed some new drivers for my Ralink - but now I cannot connect to my AP :S
[08:13] <Viking667> hey there.
[08:13] <oxdot> Bobuido_, PCI ? ... no
[08:13] <Boohbah> oxdot: yeah what kind of ide controller do you have? lspci -v
[08:13] <Viking667> Any reason why a hardy->intrepid upgrade should stop the machine dead on libhal?
[08:13] <zeno> is there a way to open manpages with another program than less? openman yeahconsole gedit or w/e
[08:14] <Viking667> zeno: yeah. export PAGER=more
[08:14] <zeno> thx
[08:14] <maveas_> I did as written in this guide http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=rt61 but I cannot connect to my AP now.. wtf?
[08:14] <oxdot> Boohbah,  nforce2 ide rev a2
[08:14] <matthew_> Does anyone have any knoledge of Adding an Ubuntu Machine to A Windows Domain?
[08:14] <maveas_> I'm sure the card is using the new drivers..
[08:15] <ikonia> matthew_: it doesn't actually get "added" but participates
[08:15] <zeno> hmmm yeahconsole doesnt really work for me, i need tabs and bigger font
[08:15] <ikonia> matthew_: you need to use samba and winbind
[08:16] <uffo> i lost wifi connection from network manager after i installed and uninstalled ndiswrapper because i did not find matching driver, why i did it because default ubuntu wifi connection was so poor (sametime others on longer distance was maxed 95)
[08:16] <matthew_> Hmmm, more or less, im intrested in monitoring the ubuntu system via a program like Vision from the Windows admin system...
[08:16] <maveas_> Does anyone now if these drivers only support "monitor mode"?
[08:16] <uffo> is there gui option to restore wif
[08:16] <uffo> or i reinstall ubuntu
[08:17] <Boohbah> oxdot: is the amd74xx kernel module loaded?
[08:17] <damia> hi there
[08:17] <nvti> hi
[08:18] <zeno> anyone have konsole working in ubuntu 8.10? kde4 version. for me when the status of the text in konsole changes it doenst appear on screen, have to do another command for it to.
[08:18] <ikonia> matthew_: well I don't know you use programs like vision on ubuntu as I doubt it will work, however look into things like linux plugins for "mom" or nagios
[08:18] <oxdot> Boohbah, nope (lsmod | grep '*amd*')
[08:18] <zeno> uffo: just reinstall ndis and the driver
[08:20] <damia> quick question. im having trouble connecting to my vista ad-hoc wireless network in ubuntu 8.10 . the network shows up but it never accepts my password. it tries for a while then the password box comes up again but with the password in hex
[08:20] <uffo> zeno: ubuntu has driver itself but maybe it is bad driver but atleast there is something, no matching ndis driver so i want old back
[08:21] <zeno> uffo: where did you get the ndis one from in the first place? get it again
[08:21] <zeno> is there a way to revert to kde3 apps? kde4 ones are so buggy
[08:21] <damia> its really confusing everything seems correct
[08:21] <oxdot> Boohbah, the drive worked a while but it seems to 'die' :( ... anyway on the ipcop box i can copy around(/dev/_h_dx), but on ubuntu (nor even on sysrescue /dev/_s_dx) i can not acces it anymore
[08:22] <thanhson> I have a problem that I can't find a 'netop shool' such as Windows on Linux
[08:22] <uffo> zeno: from cd i got ndiswrapper, but i want restore ubuntu integrated driver but with GUI way not terminal
[08:23] <damia> quick question. im having trouble connecting to my vista ad-hoc wireless network in ubuntu 8.10 . the network shows up but it never accepts my password. it tries for a while then the password box comes up again but with the password in hex
[08:23] <Tyrath> if I were to set up /etc/network/interface to allow me to connect to the internet on wireless on boot how would this be done?
[08:24] <zeno> uffo: ndis isnt the ubuntu integrated driver.... and why h8 for the term?
[08:24] <Tyrath> - i can see tutes on the net but they don't help because obviously their settings are different
[08:24] <zeno> very efficient
[08:24] <matthew_> Anyone know any cool Programs for Music with a nice interface such as Winamp or something?
[08:24] <zeno> Tyrath: on top right right click on network dongle, edit connections wireless
[08:25] <niufox_> I can't load lgs8gl5.o module under ubuntu 8.10, I can't find it also.
[08:25] <Slart> thanhson: there might not be one.. I guess you could set something up using vnc and some related tools.. but it won't be as slick and polished
[08:25] <mtozses_> matthew_, audacious
[08:25] <damia> hmmm
[08:25] <zeno> matthew_: depends what u want.  xmms2 is similar to winamp, but rythmbox or amarok are better
[08:25] <uffo> zeno: i told that i have integrated driver too but i tried to test ndis but now i want ubuntu default wifi back, i uninstalled ndis already
[08:25] <Tyrath> zeno: looking at it now thanks
[08:25] <mtozses_> matthew_, get rhythmbox though
[08:26] <damia> hmmm
[08:26] <damia> quick question. im having trouble connecting to my vista ad-hoc wireless network in ubuntu 8.10 . the network shows up but it never accepts my password. it tries for a while then the password box comes up again but with the password in hex
[08:26] <zeno> uffo: read the ubuntu page on ndiswrapper
[08:26] <zeno> !ndiswrapper > uffo
[08:26] <matthew_> Is there any cool interfaces for rhythombox?
[08:26] <zeno> matthew_: what you mean? skins?
[08:26] <mtozses_> matthew_, it is a program, it has an interface
[08:26] <matthew_> yes, sorry
[08:27] <zeno> matthew_: i think amarok has skins
[08:27] <zeno> but honestly skinning is useless =p
[08:27] <ardchoille> !compiz > me
[08:27] <matthew_> Alrighty, thanks, gonna try now.
[08:28] <zeno> ardchoille: /msg ubottu !compiz
[08:28] <zetheroo> when i leave my machine alone for a long period of time and then move the mouse all I see is the wallpaper and the mouse pointer which I can move .... but everything else is gone and CTRL+ALT+Backspace does not work ... have to do a hard reset which I don't like doing .... please help ...
[08:28] <uffo> zeno: i readed that already but it wont let restore native wireless mode forget ndis because i uninstalled it and i want to use ubuntu default integrated kernel driver - looks like i just reinstall ubuntu that solves problem
[08:29] <damia> quick question. im having trouble connecting to my vista ad-hoc wireless network in ubuntu 8.10 . the network shows up but it never accepts my password. it tries for a while then the password box comes up again but with the password in hex
[08:29] <zeno> uffo: tried system admin hardware drivers, ahve it search?
[08:29] <arooni-mobile> i've got a samsung laserjet connected to BigArooni (192.168.0.101) on my network running ubuntu hardy.   i want to print from it from LilArooni (192.168.0.102), my laptop, also running hardy.  i went to admin => printers, added the printer, and could see the printer on my laptop.  when i go to print from my laptop however however print queue shows status as "Held" ... when i try to release it, it goes back to held...ideas?
[08:29] <ardchoille> zeno: same result ;)
[08:29] <thanhson> Slart : Thank you, I have used VNC for my Network, but it is not comfortable, It's no have many functions such as Netop
[08:30] <zeno> damia: edit the connection and make sure you ahve correct password type selectedc
[08:30] <Viking667> Right. Time I left.
[08:30] <zeno> ardchoille: sure but doesnt clutter chan! =p
[08:30] <Slart> thanhson: I have to agree on that one...
[08:30] <candykiller_> evening peeps
[08:30] <shajnin> hey
[08:31] <uffo> zeno: hardware drivers wont show anything, ubuntu had driver but poor quality wifi was so i tested ndis and did not find matching driver so now i want ubuntu default driver back
[08:31] <damia> i have tried both wep128bitpassphrase and 40/128 bit key
[08:31] <candykiller_> I was wondering how you added fonts, and how you would set them as your default?
[08:31] <damia> i ahve also tried making it unsecured and nothing happens
[08:31] <shajnin> hi I'm lookin' fo nvidia drivers fo ubuntu 8.04
[08:32] <panas55s> bbbye
[08:32] <damia> it acts as though it is connecting but stops after a minute
[08:32] <skenmon> hi
[08:32] <zeno> uffo: get the propper driver from the wireless network card makers site
[08:32] <candykiller_> shajnin: Have you went to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers?
[08:32] <zeno> uffo: windows version, xp 32 bit
[08:33] <zeno> damia: find out what the right one is then try.  maybe its wpa
[08:33] <uffo> zeno: i tried windows version driver but network manager do not show wifi
[08:33] <damia> i have tried the correct one
[08:34] <damia> i have also tried switching between wep and wpa
[08:34] <skenmon> hi
[08:34] <damia> (in vista)
[08:34] <zeno> uffo: when you have it installed and runnign what does dmesg and ifconfig say?
[08:34] <xicl> it's the ubuntu8.10 still has the bug to kill notebook disk?
[08:34] <damia> and connecting in ubuntu but same problem
[08:35] <candykiller_> anyone got any ideas on my fonts inquiry?
[08:35] <uffo> zeno: network manager do not have these options
[08:35] <theplastikjesus> how do i go about moving my Awn ?
[08:35] <Mechdave> candykiller_, can you re state your problem please
[08:35] <zetheroo> is there a way to test/benchmark the CPU in Ubuntu?
[08:36] <candykiller_> Mechdave: First I need to know what folder to drop new fonts in, then I'd like to set the new fonts to my default
[08:37] <damia> how do i check if a lan card is working in ubuntu i couldnt get that working either and the lights on it and the router don't come on
[08:38] <damia> inbuilt laN in an asus f3f laptop shouldnt it be working?
[08:38] <Ayabara> If I change the font rendering settings, should the effects be seen immediately, or do I have to restart the X-server?
[08:38] <linuxnoop> how du i juse the ./ to compile
[08:38] <Mechdave> candykiller_, the standard folder is /usr/share/fonts
[08:38] <zetheroo> anyone?
[08:38] <Slart> !compile | linuxnoop
[08:39] <Slart> zetheroo: there are several benchmarking applications in the repos.. search for benchmark
[08:39] <linuxnoop> thx
[08:39] <damia> how do i check if a lan card is working in ubuntu i couldnt get that working either and the lights on it and the router don't come on
[08:39] <Mechdave> zetheroo, A google search revealed this --> http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=benchmark+cpu+Ubuntu&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[08:39] <Mechdave> zetheroo, Google is your friend :)
[08:40] <candykiller_> Mechdave: Does it matter what folder in /usr/share/fonts I put it in? it's the Zekton font
[08:40] <zetheroo> Mechdave: I have been trying Google ... :) there was nothing very definite in my search ...
[08:40] <Mechdave> zetheroo, did you try the search page I did?
[08:41] <zetheroo> Mechdave: looking now ... thanks
[08:41] <dubi> can anyone tell me pls how i fix this: i have xubuntu 8.10 but before that i used gnome. now whenever i log in i have to run nautilus to mount my other hdb
[08:41] <zetheroo> Slart: looking
[08:41] <Mechdave> candykiller_, what kind of fonts are they?
[08:41] <damia> how do i check if a lan card is working in ubuntu i couldnt get that working either and the lights on it and the router don't come on
[08:41] <syslq> I want to change background color of evince is that possible?
[08:41] <candykiller_> Mechdave: it shows zekton_.ttf, zektonbi.ttf, etc...I'm guessing TTF is a type of font?
[08:42] <Slart> damia: lspci should have a line for your card if it's talking to the computer.. you might still need a driver though
[08:42] <Mechdave> candykiller_, probably stick them in truetype (are they windows fonts?)
[08:42] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  Does anyone have a gnome-do mpd plugin that can play the songs you search/browse for?  If so, where did you get it?
[08:42] <candykiller_> Mechdave: I'm not really sure, I found the download link through a desktop thread on ubuntuforums
[08:43] <Mechdave> candykiller_, Although I think the system should find the fonts in zekton directory
[08:43] <candykiller_> Mechdave: How do you set the font type as a default? and I'll see if it works
[08:43] <gamla_kossan> hi guys & dolls.. easy question I guess: how do I chcek what version of ubuntu I'm running?
[08:43] <Slart> gamla_kossan: lsb_release -a
[08:44] <gamla_kossan> thanks
[08:44] <Buntai> anyone help me..my movie player hang when i play movie..hang for 3 or 4 second then continue..why?anyone know?
[08:44] <Mechdave> candykiller_, You should be able to access them through Open Office with them in the /usr/share/fonts/zekton directory
[08:44] <gamla_kossan> Buntai: tried disabling composited desktop?
[08:44] <jonaskoelker> Buntai: which movie player are you using?
[08:45] <Buntai> gamla_kossan: what is composited desktop?
[08:45] <Buntai> any player got the same result jonaskoelker
[08:45] <candykiller_> Mechdave: Alright, sorry I'm a little new to this.  It's asking for admin rights to edit the folder, what do I need to type in the console to edit it?
[08:45] <damia> ok the ethernet controller is installed correctly it erhe a place it may be disabled?
[08:45] <Mechdave> zetheroo, How did you go?
[08:45] <Buntai> it will hang 3 or 4 second then continue
[08:45] <damia> ok the ethernet controller is installed correctly is there a place it may be disabled?
[08:46] <Mechdave> candykiller_, That is ok, type in your password you used when you set up Ubuntu
[08:46] <Buntai> anyone..
[08:46] <Buntai> help me
[08:46] <gamla_kossan> Buntai: desktop eye candy. if you go into System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual effects
[08:46] <jonaskoelker> Buntai: let me clarify.  I search for "jtbr", select "JT Bruce" [artist], "The Dreamer's Paradox" [album], "A skeptic's hypothesis" [title], then hit tab.  All I can do is Copy to clipboard and Assign alias.
[08:46] <candykiller_> Mechdave: Yeah, but how do I get to that point to type it in?  Like do I need to do a gedit? or something in the console
[08:46] <Buntai> i cant solve this problem by my own
[08:46] <jonaskoelker> Buntai: are you saying that all the other players are limited in the same way?
[08:46] <jonaskoelker> duh
[08:47] <jonaskoelker> Buntai: I has read fail
[08:47] <cypherdelic> I have a problem installing FreeSpace2-Open via Tureys installer. I installed OpenAL via Synaptic but the installer keeps saying:Post-Installation Notes for FreeSpace Open 3.6.9 Linux Executables (64-bit) You'll need OpenAL to play the game. - Pleasse help me!.
[08:47] <gamla_kossan> Buntai: and then select "None".
[08:47]  * Mechdave scratches his head
[08:47] <cypherdelic> cypher@HaeckFlaisch:~/FreeSpace$ ./fs2_open
[08:47] <cypherdelic> ERROR: " Web cursor bitmap not found.  This is most likely due to one of three reasons: 	1) You're running FreeSpace Open from somewhere other than your FreeSpace 2 folder; 	2) You've somehow corrupted your FreeSpace 2 installation; 	3) You haven" at graphics/2d.cpp:1526
[08:47] <cypherdelic> cypher@HaeckFlaisch:~/FreeSpace$
[08:47] <Buntai> none?
[08:47] <jonaskoelker> Buntai: I thought you were answering my question
[08:47] <Buntai> ok ok
[08:47] <damia> ok the ethernet controller is installed correctly is there a place it may be disabled?
[08:47] <gamla_kossan> Buntai: and then try running the movie again.
[08:47] <jonaskoelker> Buntai: which players have you tried?
[08:47] <uffo> what is wrong with ndiswrapper i installed driver but network manager still wont show wifi
[08:47] <Buntai> jonaskoelker: im using all the player type like vlx,mplayer,totem ..its all get the same reult..hang
[08:48] <Buntai> soryy not vlx..but vlc
[08:48] <candykiller_> Mechdave: And is there anyway to remove all the security when editing files?  I'm the only one that uses this account and I'm guessing there should be like an Administration account where you can bypass this?
[08:48] <jonaskoelker> Buntai: any others besides those three?
[08:48] <Buntai> thats only three i know
[08:48] <Slart> damia: check the file /etc/network/interfaces .. there should be a line or two there for the card.. for more info check "man interfaces"
[08:48] <chilli0> does anyone know what the Darter Ultra or the Pangolin Performance laptops are like from system76?
[08:49] <Mechdave> candykiller_, I would not recommend working in the root account as it can destroy your machine REALLY quickly :( I found out the hard way once...
[08:49] <candykiller_> Mechdave: Do you know what I need to type in the terminal then to access the folder?
[08:49] <jonaskoelker> Buntai: how if you disable visual effects?  Does it change anything?
[08:49] <dcider> Buntai: are the videos streamed or are they on your harddrive?
[08:49] <Mechdave> candykiller_, Ok the easiest way to copy some files that you need admin rights for use sudo
[08:50] <Buntai> inside my harddrive
[08:50] <uffo> hat is wrong with ndiswrapper i installed driver but network manager still wont show wifi. when i press configure button it shows could not find a network configuration tool
[08:50] <Buntai> i've disabled visual effect
[08:50] <Mechdave> eg: sudo cp /files/orig/location /destination
[08:50] <candykiller_> Mechdave: So it would be sudo gedit /etc/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts?
[08:50] <Buntai> its work
[08:50] <Buntai> thanks
[08:50] <Buntai> i not hang anymore
[08:50] <Mechdave> candykiller_, No use cp for copy
[08:50] <candykiller_> Mechdave: ?
[08:51] <jonaskoelker> Buntai: congrats
[08:51] <Mechdave> candykiller_, Ok you have never used cp before?
[08:51] <Buntai> if i want to watch movie..i must disabled it rite?
[08:51] <jonaskoelker> Buntai: if you like mplayer, try running it with a few different values of -vo
[08:51] <candykiller_> Mechdave: Can't say I have, been using linux for about 5 days...lol
[08:51] <jonaskoelker> Buntai: it appears so...
[08:51] <Buntai> jonaskoelker: how?
[08:51] <damia> Slart: there is no mention of it in /etc/network/interfaces only loopback (useless)
[08:52] <jonaskoelker> Buntai: open an xterm, type "mplayer -vo sdl /home/buntai/path/to/file.avi"
[08:52] <arooni-mobile> chasetoys is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported. ;;; how do i add that user to the sudoers
[08:52] <uffo> hat is wrong with ndiswrapper i installed driver but network manager still wont show wifi. when i press configure button it shows could not find a network configuration tool.
[08:52] <Buntai> owh
[08:52] <Buntai> ok ok
[08:52] <Buntai> got it
[08:52] <Mechdave> candykiller_, Ok I will show you a really good command to use as well as google... if you type man cp it will give you a manual page about cp
[08:52] <damia> i can find it with lspci but am unsure what to add to interfaces
[08:52] <Buntai> anyway thanks for helping
[08:52] <Buntai> :)
[08:52] <jonaskoelker> Buntai: next, replace sdl by x11, xv, gl, mga, 3dfx and a few others one at a time
[08:52] <Buntai> brb
[08:52] <Buntai> watch movie
[08:52] <Mechdave> candykiller_, in a terminal
[08:52] <FloodBot1> Buntai: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:53] <barry_> hello room
[08:53] <arooni-mobile> chasetoys is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported. ;;; how do i add that user to the sudoers
[08:53] <Mechdave> Hello barry_
[08:53] <arooni-mobile> oops sorry for repost
[08:53] <candykiller_> Mechdave: K
[08:53] <barry_> got a few questions for all...
[08:53] <uffo> hat is wrong with ndiswrapper i installed driver but network manager still wont show wifi. when i press configure button it shows could not find a network configuration tool
[08:54] <zeno> how do i add programs to the altf2 launcher? in bash i have PATH="$PATH:"~/src
[08:54] <Mechdave> candykiller_, Stand by I shall google you a good page on the commands of Ubuntu
[08:54] <hmw_> after the / partition was full, i couldnt log in anymore, and my applications menu seems to be empty now. can i restore it without installing the whole system again? *whines*
[08:54] <zeno> i want ~/src to work for other shells and in altf2
[08:54] <hmw_> i cant open the menu editor either. (i freed ~600MB)
[08:54] <candykiller_> Mechdave: Hmm, so I'll need to extract this to the desktop, then copy the contents using sudo cp <source> <destination> ? o.0
[08:55] <barry_> im currently running a mac, powerpc G5, and was wondering what version of ubuntu is right for me.  i am brand new to linux.   i tried downloading / burning to cd and booting a few different versions with little to no success...
[08:55] <ziroday> barry_: unfortunately ppc is no longer officially supported in ubuntu. However there is an unofficial port
[08:55] <Mechdave> candykiller_, That command page -->https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/basic-commands/C/  I recommend you bookmark this page and refer to it often
[08:56] <damia> quick question. im having trouble connecting to my vista ad-hoc wireless network in ubuntu 8.10 . the network shows up but it never accepts my password. it tries for a while then the password box comes up again but with the password in hex
[08:56] <Mechdave> candykiller_, You need to extract the file to your home directory
[08:56] <Mechdave> candykiller_, what kind of archive is it?
[08:57] <usuario> O.o
[08:57] <candykiller_> Mechdave .tar.gz from my firefox downloads window
[08:57] <barry_> would i be able to use an older version, say 6.06.1?  somehow i was led there
[08:57] <Mechdave> candykiller_, and it is on the Desktop?
[08:57] <theplastikjesus> does anyone use Awn ?
[08:57] <snowman> I have a problem with establishing a connection to an debian server with ssh public key auth. on windows it works without any trouble, but if i copy the private key to my ubuntu machine, the connection can't be established
[08:57] <panas55s> Please: any body recognise this??? system-tools-backends
[08:57] <panas55s> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:57] <ziroday> barry_: you could however it will probably be easier to use the unofficial community supported port.
[08:58] <candykiller_> Mechdave: No, but it can be there? where would the easiest place to extract and copy it be from?
[08:58] <usuario> fuck all
[08:58] <jonaskoelker> panas55s: yep, it means something went wrong :)
[08:58] <candykiller_> Mechdave: Maybe using the mv command would work better?
[08:58] <jonaskoelker> panas55s: try dpkg --reconfigure -a
[08:58] <damia> quick question. im having trouble connecting to my vista ad-hoc wireless network in ubuntu 8.10 . the network shows up but it never accepts my password. it tries for a while then the password box comes up again but with the password in hex
[08:58] <Mechdave> barry_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPC
[08:58] <ziroday> barry_: you might want to see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=427714
[08:58] <barry_> ty all :)
[08:59] <theplastikjesus> how do i add a icon for terminal in AWN?
[08:59] <panas55s> yes Jonas ,thank u .but what>
[08:59] <Mechdave> candykiller_, Ok first get the file into your home directory using mv if you wish
[08:59] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: as a launcher?
[08:59] <uffo> what is wrong with ndiswrapper i installed driver but network manager still wont show wifi. when i press configure button it shows could not find a network configuration tool
[08:59] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: yes as a launcher plz
[08:59] <Mechdave> no worries barry_
[08:59] <theplastikjesus> i dont know the command to add it i guess
[09:00] <snowman> how can i get support here?
[09:00] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: right click on a blank piece of the dock and select the "Preferences Option"
[09:00] <ziroday> snowman: ask your question
[09:00] <dcider> candykiller: have you tried nautilus as a root? sudo nautilus
[09:00] <jrgp> is this a good card for ubuntu x64 intrepid? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814135193
[09:00] <ziroday> jrgp: what do you mean by "good"
[09:01] <jonaskoelker> >
[09:01] <jrgp> as in works and can play high def mpg's
[09:01] <candykiller_> Mechdave: Alright, they're sitting in the Home folder
[09:01] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: im in the preferences > launcher
[09:01] <Ohmu> how to print my kernel version?
[09:01] <minium_> uname -r
[09:01] <Mechdave> candykiller_, Another more comprehensive list of commands id here --> http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/
[09:01] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: okay Click add, the command is "Terminal" the rest can be anything you like
[09:02] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: sorry the command is gnome-terminal
[09:02] <Mechdave> candykiller_, Just a minute mate gotta go to baby... sorry be right back
[09:02] <ziroday> jrgp: it should be able to, however no promises
[09:02] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: do i have to use the " with the name?
[09:02] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: no, without quotes
[09:02] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: ok ty
[09:03] <dcider> candykiller_ : have you tried nautilus as a root? sudo nautilus
[09:03] <snowman> ziroday: i have problems with public key authentication to a debian server from my ubuntu desktop. from windows vista it works fine (podrosa / openssh), but if i copy the private key to my ubuntu machine it doesn't work
[09:03] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: ok i did that is it supposed to put an icon in the awn itself?
[09:03] <hmw_> how can i extract Compiz settings via shell, i dont want to tweak it again after the reinstall, i am about to make
[09:04] <ziroday> snowman: have no idea about that sorry
[09:04] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: yes
[09:04] <candykiller_> hmm, let me try that
[09:04] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: the normal locations for them are /home/<username>/.icons and /usr/share/icons
[09:04] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: ok i did not get an icon on my awn at the bottom of my screen
[09:05] <hot_wheelz> hi
[09:05] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: you need to restart it
[09:06] <hot_wheelz> anyone running a Huawei · E960 in 8.10?
[09:06] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  Does anyone use gnome-do and mpd?
[09:06] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: restart Awn itself?
[09:06] <ziroday> jonaskoelker: the people in #gnome-do would
[09:06] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: yes
[09:06] <jonaskoelker> ziroday: no, not really
[09:06] <candykiller_> Mechdave:  mv zektonbo.ttf ~/etc/usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts
[09:06] <hmw_> where are the compiz settings stored?
[09:06] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: ok how do i go about that, im new to linux and awn sry
[09:07] <candykiller_> Mechdave: That's what I was typing in, is that correct?
[09:07] <candykiller_> Mechdave: While it was on my desktop
[09:07] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: just trying to get a cool lookin desktop set up here
[09:07] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: sure, you can open a terminal and type in killall avant window navigator and then do avant-window-navigator & disown. You can then close the terminal
[09:07] <ziroday> hmw_: you mean how to edit them?
[09:08] <panas55s> Jon.K  its too complex, maybe an idea of what i should debug?
[09:08] <hmw_> ziroday no, how to copy them away, format and reinstall, then reimport
[09:08] <Looop_> hey have a desktop with ubuntu, how do I set it up so the desk look a like MAC OS X
[09:08] <hmw_> ziroday my desktop is completely unusable now, main menu dead
[09:08] <ziroday> hmw_: you can use the CompizConfig Settings Manager to export the settings
[09:09] <ziroday> Looop: you mean completely like mac os x or just the dock?
[09:09] <hmw_> ziroday i am not sure, if my ubuntu is that usable anymore... it works only partly... i will try... never saw an export button...!?
[09:09] <ziroday> hmw_: it under preferences
[09:10] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: thx man got it working
[09:10] <uffo> what is wrong with ndiswrapper i installed driver but network manager still wont show wifi. when i press configure button it shows could not find a network configuration tool.
[09:10] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: great
[09:11] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: ok another question sry where do i go in there to change the icon for the terminal command i put in
[09:11] <damia> quick question. im having trouble connecting to my vista ad-hoc wireless network in ubuntu 8.10 . the network shows up but it never accepts my password. it tries for a while then the password box comes up again but with the password in hex
[09:11] <damia> quick question. im having trouble connecting to my vista ad-hoc wireless network in ubuntu 8.10 . the network shows up but it never accepts my password. it tries for a while then the password box comes up again but with the password in hex
[09:11] <Looop_> ziroday i mean the dock sorry I was not specific
[09:11] <hmw_> ziroday thanks. is it just me, or is 8.10 really that instable? i had many minor and some major issues, 7.10 seemed to be much more stable
[09:13] <pinkster> hello, ubuntu has misidentified my graphics card as the ati fire gl when it is in fact the ati hd 3200. How can I fix this (putting the correct drivers into use? Currently it is unable to set the correct resolution for the display and use 3d effects.
[09:13] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: nm i got it
[09:14] <mavsman4457> Ever since I upgraded to 8.10 my mic doesn't work
[09:14] <dcider> has ne1 else had problems with visual effects set to normal and google earth screwing up using a ati 9600 xt card and the fglrx driver???
[09:14] <Looop> ziroday i mean the dock sorry I was not specific
[09:15] <candykiller_> Mechdave: This shit is killing me, lol, all I want to do is add a @%^%#$^ font
[09:15] <ne2k__> on ubuntu desktop (gnome) , alt-tab works as expected; it brings up a series of miniature versions of the open windows and cycles through them. however, alt-shift-tab doesn't go backwards through the list. I do have alt-shift as my keyboard map switcher. this used to work on windows. can I make it work or do I need to choose another keyboard map switcher combination?
[09:16] <ziroday> hmw_: that depends on your system and what you do to it
[09:16] <B|ackPanther> After installing 8.10 i realise the fonts are now rough,is there a way i can smoothen them up ?
[09:16] <ziroday> Looop: if you compositiing enabled take a look at avant-window-navigator otherwise simdock
[09:17] <ziroday> B|ackPanther: you can try fiddle with the settings in System > Preferences > Appearance > Edit Theme > Font
[09:17] <Looop__> ok thanks just know that my friend has it and i'm normaly use a dock so thx
[09:17] <Looop__> bey
[09:18] <B|ackPanther> ziroday,i dont think its the font,am still using monospace 10 and they were much better in 8.04
[09:19] <ziroday> B|ackPanther: well try the settings in there. What resolution are you at?
[09:19] <B|ackPanther> My eyes go bad if i watch the screen for a while and i think it is something to do with 8.10
[09:20] <theplastikjesus> what is the best .mp3 player for ubuntu? I was looking at xmms but, was wanting some opinions
[09:21] <ziroday> !best | theplastikjesus
[09:21] <hmw_> ziroday: how seriously is a full file system "allowed" to damage the whole sys? i mean, it got unusable. is that to be expected?
[09:21] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: but take a look at banshee, amarok. rhythmbox and audacious
[09:21] <poplar> ~_~
[09:22] <ziroday> hmw_: um well a file file system can very very easily damage your system. Did you boot into the recovery option and run the clear space option?
[09:22] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: i got rhythmbox atm immm not sure i like it
[09:22] <theplastikjesus> i'm*
[09:22] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: well an idea of what you like? winamp or itunes like?
[09:23] <ajuonline> my ubuntu install shows/works for lesser time on battery than windows xp. XP wokrs for 6 hours. Ubuntu for 4.5 hours [all approx]
[09:23] <Joe1> Hi. I was wondering if anyone could help with an audio problem?
[09:23] <hmw_> ziroday no, i switched to the console, when i couldnt log into gnome anymore, and deleted about one gig, but the applications menu was empty and i couldnt mount the windows partitions properly (using the GUI)
[09:23] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: yeh like winamp
[09:23] <ziroday> theplastikjesus: take a look at vlc and audacious
[09:23] <theplastikjesus> ziroday: ok thx
[09:24] <Mo0oSaH> If I install a deb file because it is a newer version than  repos, will it get updates once repos catchup?
[09:24] <ziroday> hmw_: well try the recovery option. The livecd also has a "recover a broken system" option on it
[09:24] <fosco_> Mo0oSaH: yes
[09:24] <dcider> candykiller_ : did a google search and "http://crunchbang.org/archives/2007/10/14/installing-fonts-on-ubuntu/
[09:24] <ziroday> Mo0oSaH: however ubuntu is not rolling release, large updates aren't made
[09:25] <Joe1> I've been running kubuntu for years and upgraded ever 6 months. This time (cos of KDE 4) I upgraded and then installed ubuntu-desktop. I pulled out the kde packages. Now my audio is corrupted, which is a shame since it used to run fine! It's the realtek builtin audio on an nforce2 board. I tried pulling out pulse and just using alsa but that's still borked :-(
[09:25] <candykiller_> Mechdave: So I figured out the move thing, but I don't know the designator for my 'File System'
[09:26] <Mo0oSaH> ziroday, fosco_, thanks!
[09:26] <candykiller_> Mechdave: I put the font in Root and this is what I typed: sudo mv ~/zektonit.ttf /etc/usr/share/fonts/truetype
[09:26] <Joe1> I get "sound" but it's garbled, like a downmix is hosed. Sometimes bits of left and right at low volume sometimes just nothing.
[09:26] <Joe1> Can anyone help?
[09:26] <uffo> what is wrong with ndiswrapper i installed driver but network manager still wont show wifi. when i press configure button it shows could not find a network configuration tool
[09:29] <magic_ninja> anyone know where virtualbox under windows saves its disk image files
[09:30] <Joe1> So any audio geniuses here?
[09:30] <ikonia> magic_ninja: thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[09:31] <magic_ninja> !question | ikonia
[09:31] <ikonia> magic_ninja I didn't ask a quetion
[09:31] <c0mp13371331337> magic_ninja: Try searching for *.vdi'?
[09:31] <ikonia> magic_ninja: don't abuse the bot
[09:32] <oxdot> hi ... anyone knows how to blacklist libata and enable old ide on intrepid ... it's even possible ?
[09:32] <magic_ninja> c0mp13371331337, thanks bro that is the info i was looking for
[09:32] <ikonia> oxdot thats an odd request, for what reason
[09:32] <candykiller_> Mechdave: WOOT! IT WORKED
[09:32] <ikonia> oxdot: keep in mind that everything in ubuntu is setup to use the current libatar model
[09:32] <ikonia> libata even
[09:33] <oxdot> ikonia, ^^' ... cant read an old ide disk on intrepid, but can do it on my ipcop box (2.4) and wanted to ddrescue it ...
[09:33] <ikonia> oxdot well, thats a different kernel - that shouldn't be anything to do with libata
[09:33] <ikonia> oxdot: how are you trying to access the disk in 8.10
[09:34] <magic_ninja> what is it, sudo apt-get upgrade-dist
[09:34] <ikonia> magic_ninja: for what ?
[09:34] <Momentum> Hi guys. I've just installed drivers for my wireless netcard but now I cant connect to any APs..
[09:34] <magic_ninja> ikonia, why to upgrade distrobution of course
[09:35] <magic_ninja> i'm still on 8.02
[09:35] <ikonia> magic_ninja: 8.04 ?
[09:35] <Joe1> After upgrading from Kubuntu 8.04 to Ubuntu 8.10 my nforce2 audio has died - it sounds all corrupt - missing channels, mixing channels, weird levels etc. I tried removing pulse audio and going to plain alsa with no joy. Can anyone help?!
[09:35] <magic_ninja> whichever lol
[09:35] <ikonia> !upgrade > magic_ninja
[09:35] <oxdot> normal (mount) but even fdisk complain about non existent partition ... maybe you know some rescue distro that use an old lib (since nor ubuntu or sysrescue can access it)
[09:35] <nite_johnboy> Hi - Anyone know how to setup X-CD-Roast to discover and use a Sony SATA - DVD/CDR/CDRW  burner - Do I have to modify the " etc " file ? ? ?
[09:35] <ikonia> oxdot what device file are you running it against ?
[09:35] <magic_ninja> nite_johnboy, it should autoconfigure
[09:36] <jxander> hi there. I'm trying to connect my external LCD. i have an ati x1400 on a dell inspiron 6400 lappy. i tried both in 8.04.1 and 8.10, but ubuntu doesn't always detect the monitor, and when it detects, it doesn't give me the native resolution. The panel is a Samsung SyncMaster 2243nw 22inch. please help :-s
[09:36] <oxdot> device file ? ext3 ?
[09:36] <ikonia> oxdot /dev/$what
[09:36] <magic_ninja> nite_johnboy, can you, for instance, play a cd in the drive, does bios recognize it
[09:36] <uffo> WHAT is wrong with ndiswrapper, i  installed drivers but network manager do not show wifi
[09:36] <oxdot> ikonia, ubuntu/sysrecue /dev/sdx  ... ipcop /devhdx
[09:36] <magic_ninja> jxander, install ati tools and set your resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:37] <ikonia> oxdot: is the device removable or mounted in the chassis
[09:37] <magic_ninja> jxander, i use nvidia myself, so i'm not quite sure how to do it on ati
[09:37] <Momentum> !rmmod
[09:37] <Momentum> !rt61
[09:37] <Momentum> !rt61pci
[09:37] <nite_johnboy> majic_ninja: Yup - have no problems burnin g w/Brasero or watch DVD movies w/Xine or Terminal run " Ogle ".
[09:37] <oxdot> ikonia, internal (on an old nforce2 board)
[09:37] <ikonia> oxdot: is teh forcedeath drivers loaded ?
[09:38] <Momentum> dammit
[09:38] <mclure> anyone here familiar with openoffice drawing? need some help
[09:38] <nite_johnboy> magic_ninja:  Yup - have no problems burnin g w/Brasero or watch DVD movies w/Xine or Terminal run " Ogle ".
[09:38] <oxdot> ikonia, appears not (lsmod | grep '*force*') ... it is an WD400GB
[09:39] <ikonia> oxdot worth loading the forcedeath drivers
[09:39] <ikonia> oxdot: also check if dmesg/var/log/syslog shows up the disk at boot time
[09:39] <jxander> magic_ninja: thanks, but do you happen to know the name of the package?
[09:39] <magic_ninja> nite_johnboy, do you HAVE to use xcd roast, try k3b i find it a very good burner myself
[09:40] <Skry^> agreed
[09:40] <gab3> [01:36] <gab3> stupid question
[09:40] <Ademan> hey is anyone familiar with a "network clipboard" ?  for instance I could copy on my desktop, and paste on my laptop.
[09:40] <gab3> [01:37] <gab3> i need to write a simple shell script that performs the same operation on multiple files
[09:40] <gab3> [01:37] <gab3> java -jar jmac.jar d Track01.ape Track01.wav
[09:40] <gab3> [01:37] <gab3> all the way through 31
[09:40] <gab3> [01:37] <gab3> can anyone help? should be simple
[09:40] <FloodBot1> gab3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:40] <gab3> [01:37] <gab3> i'm not a programmer
[09:40] <uffo> WHAT is wrong with ndiswrapper, i  installed drivers but network manager do not show wifi choices
[09:40] <ikonia> gab3 ask in #bash
[09:40] <ikonia> gab3: that is a good cahnnel for scripting support in #bash
[09:41] <gab3> thank you
[09:41] <oxdot> ikonia, it does ... i can acces other partition on the drive (witch is 'diying') but the 1st and the last are not accessible. I cant test forcedeath right now (its mounted on ipcop, but i take a look ...)
[09:41] <magic_ninja> jxander, i believe its aticonfig but check this link it may be helpful... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=353665
[09:41] <gab3> just switched from winxp to kubuntu this weekend--mainly because NTFS is a fucking DOG
[09:41] <ikonia> gab3: stop the language
[09:41] <ikonia> gab3: thats not needed
[09:41] <gab3> ooh sorry.
[09:41] <magic_ninja> !language | gab3
[09:42] <nite_johnboy> magic_ninja: Will probably just un-install it and continue to Braseo - I run the Gnome desktop - I do have KDE installed as well - When can't burn good w/Brasero - Will just boot into KDE & use K3b - Thanks anyway....
[09:42] <magic_ninja> nite_johnboy, you can run k3b from gnome...i use gnome myself
[09:42] <ikonia> nite_johnboy it's an overkill to download kdelibs and kdebase for the sake of a ccd burner in my opinion
[09:42] <jxander> magic_ninja: thanks a lot... i'll try it.
[09:43] <oxdot> ikonia, any idea why i cant acces theses partitions on ubuntu, but can copy around on ipcop ?
[09:43] <Ademan> nite_johnboy: there's absolutely nothing keeping you from using KDE application in Gnome (other than kde applications will take a bit longer since they have to load an entirely different set of libraries from Gnome applications, and kde apps in Gnome look uglier than sin)
[09:43] <magic_ninja> jxander, sudo apt-get install k3b
[09:43] <Ademan> functionally they're usually exactly the same
[09:43] <Momentum> How do I blacklist an old wireless driver?
[09:43] <ikonia> oxdot I'd guess (and it is just a guess) that the older 2.4 driver doesn't do any sort of error checking, where as teh new one may do and won't allow you to mount a damaged disk
[09:43] <ikonia> !blacklist > Momentum
[09:44] <Administrator_> so whichone is better between gnome and kde?
[09:44] <jxander> :)
[09:44] <ikonia> Administrator_: personal opinon, try them both see which one you like
[09:44] <nite_johnboy> magic_ninja: I have had issues with it in the past - but recently added the KDE & Fluxbox - might give it a try again. Thanks
[09:44] <Mechdave> Administrator_, try both and use which one you like
[09:44] <magic_ninja> nite_johnboy, give me a moment, there was another good application, let me try to remember what it was
[09:45] <Joe1> Guess my problem is too tricky. Thanks anyway people. :-(
[09:45] <oxdot> ikonia, but it tell me that the device does not exist (special device does not exist ... ) even if fdisk -l list every thing ... ???
[09:45] <theplastikjesus> Is there a way to move the Avant Window Navigator other than the default location
[09:45] <Administrator_> but should i install ubuntu or kubuntu
[09:45] <nite_johnboy> magic_ninja: ok
[09:45] <ikonia> oxdot thats still driver access
[09:45] <Administrator_> i have to pick one of them? or anyone of them is fine for both?
[09:45] <ikonia> Administrator_ either, they are the same, both desktops work on both
[09:45] <magic_ninja> nite_johnboy, i don't know what its like now (it wasn't that great when i tried it), but there is nero burning rom for linux as well
[09:46] <Mechdave> Administrator_, I would install Ubuntu dvd which has both
[09:46] <oxdot> ikonia, well ... any way thks for the hint ;) gonna look further ...
[09:47] <ikonia> oxdot no poroblem, but I really don't think it has anything to do with libata (to save time wasting)
[09:47] <candykiller> How would I change the brown/orange - highlights/scrollbars/menus ?
[09:47] <uffo> WHAT is wrong with ndiswrapper, i  installed drivers but network manager do not show wifi choices
[09:47] <nite_johnboy> magic_ninja: I have that downloaded in my downloads folder - but hadn't tried it yet - Think I'll stick with the good ol standard K3b.
[09:47] <theplastikjesus> Can i move Avant Window Navigator around other than the default location it comes in?
[09:48] <nite_johnboy> magic_ninja: What do use for playing DVD movies ?
[09:48] <oxdot> ikonia, ok (thks for save me some time and maybe my conf ;) )... i just finished dl Acc-Knoppix, maybe it use the old one ...
[09:48] <Alexzzz> i need http packet analyzer for ubuntu, something like HTTP Analyzer for windows. Any ideas?
[09:49] <IdleOne> !players > nite_johnboy
[09:49] <D3LTA> someone here knows a distro iso or image with installed ffmpeg flv2tool etc. ?
[09:50] <uffo> WHAT is wrong with ndiswrapper, i  installed drivers but network manager do not show wifi http://paste.ubuntu.com/76328/
[09:50] <oxdot> cya ...
[09:50] <nite_johnboy> magic_ninja: I have been using Ogle - You have to run it from Terminal - but once you remember the commands - it works great - Plays really nice!
[09:51] <goosh> when i click off any title bar in gnome the color disappears and it displays incorrectly until i re-select it. is this a known bug, my fault, or something trivial that nobody but me cares about?
[09:52] <cfedde> it's part of the theme you're using?
[09:52] <goosh> just got the standard intrepid human theme
[09:52] <strygies> bonjour
[09:52] <ardchoille> unfocused titlebars are semi-transparent, how do I make them all solid?
[09:52] <timboy> I need to do a reinstall of intrepid but I want to keep my home dir and user preferences. what's the best way to do this?
[09:52] <goosh> nvidia gfx if that makes any difference
[09:55] <Alexzzz> can I find http sniffer for ubuntu, something like http analyzer for windows?
[09:55] <theplastikjesus> Can i move Avant Window Navigator to another location other than its default
[09:55] <c0mp13371331337> timboy: How big is /home ?
[09:55] <mon^rch> timboy: just reinstall and don't format your /home partition
[09:55] <nite_johnboy> IdleOne: How do you use " !players " in Synaptics in a Search window ?
[09:55] <D3LTA> someone here knows a distro iso or image with installed ffmpeg flv2tool etc. ? tried medibuntu
[09:55] <segosa> Alexzzz: wireshark?
[09:56] <IdleOne> nite_johnboy, in the search bar of Synaptic type dvd
[09:56] <timboy> mon^rch, that will work?
[09:56] <mon^rch> timboy: I do it all the time
[09:56] <segosa> Alexzzz: apt-cache search sniffer
[09:56] <ardchoille> timboy: is your /home on a separate partition?
[09:56] <Zvezdichko> Hello, is there a good video converter that can convert my own ustream .flv files to .avi files for example?
[09:56] <timboy> mon^rch, sweet thx!
[09:56] <segosa> Zvezdichko: avidemux
[09:56] <timboy> ardchoille, I'm pretty sure it is. i'm going to go check :)
[09:57] <nite_johnboy> IdleOne: Ok - What did you mean by your previous post of " !players " ?
[09:57] <mon^rch> timboy: make sure you have a seperat /home partition before trying that
[09:57] <timboy> ardchoille, let's say for argument sake it's not then just copy it off and copy it back?
[09:57] <IdleOne> nite_johnboy, do you have a tab named ubottu ? if so click on it and read the info
[09:57] <timboy> mon^rch, :) yeah for sure
[09:58] <mon^rch> timboy: good!
[09:58] <ardchoille> timboy: if your /home is not on a sep part, then you need to copy it somewhere or it will get overwritten by the partitioner
[09:58] <timboy> ardchoille, ok thx
[09:58] <timboy> thx all!
[09:59] <Skaag> is there some kind of webmin package in ubuntu?
[09:59] <Skaag> or something of the sort
[09:59] <ikonia> ebox
[09:59] <ardchoille> !info webmin
[09:59] <Zvezdichko> I downloaded avidemux... hope this works
[09:59] <ikonia> webmin is not supported on ubuntu
[10:00] <Skaag> good, I didn't like webmin too much
[10:00] <Maveas> How do I safe blacklist in etc/modprobe.d =
[10:00] <Maveas> ?
[10:00] <nite_johnboy> IdleOne: Ah - so when you did the line -" !players > nite_johnboy " then that give's a command to ubottu to give me info correct ?
[10:00] <mon^rch> ardchoille: http://www.webmin.com/download.html
[10:00] <Maveas> It says I don't have permission
[10:00] <IdleOne> nite_johnboy, correct
[10:01] <ardchoille> mon^rch: I don't use anything that isn't supported on Ubuntu
[10:01] <Skaag> I don't see an ebox apache module
[10:01] <mon^rch> ardchoille: just trying to help
[10:01] <theplastikjesus> what would be the command to add a launcer for audacious in avant window navigator?
[10:01] <theplastikjesus> launcher*
[10:01] <ardchoille> mon^rch: But, thank you :)
 Wireshark is very good sniffer but i need something different. Something like HTTP Analyzer which displays all http activity with good navigation, so you can easily view all headers POST requests etc. Hope you understand me, sorry for bad English.
[10:01] <cacho> ola
[10:01] <nite_johnboy> IdleOne: Ah ok - noob here sorry - I've seen this posted to other people and did not know what is was for - thanks.
[10:01] <aiai> hello where can i ask for help?
[10:02] <ardchoille> theplastikjesus: drag the audacious menu icon to avant window navigator
[10:02] <unix> anyone here can help me solving my problems on my a4tech webcam not working on kopete, but if i try to use ekiga... my webcam is working well. im using 8.10
[10:02] <cacho> alguna mujer q hable español
[10:02] <ardchoille> !es | cacho
[10:02] <segosa> he's asking if there's a spanish-speaking girl
[10:02] <Skaag> ebox has issues....   ebox-services: Depends: ebox (>= 0.11.99) but it is not going to be installed
[10:02] <Skaag>                  Depends: ebox (< 0.12) but it is not going to be installed
[10:02] <segosa> in a _linux_ channel
[10:03] <Maveas> :P
[10:03] <segosa> that's funny.
[10:03] <ardchoille> hehe
[10:03] <Skaag> yes true
[10:03] <Skaag> funnny indeed
[10:03] <Skaag> but at least he's trying
[10:03] <Skaag> I give him points for that
[10:03] <threequarks> does anyone know where the tab icons are gone in the latest Kate editor intrepid.  (kde 4.1.2)
[10:03] <Skaag> imagine if he succeeds
[10:03] <theplastikjesus> ardchoille: thx didn not no you could drag and drop into avant
[10:03] <IdleOne> nite_johnboy, no problem you can also query ubottu in that same window without the ! prefix. if the bot has info it will return it to you if not it will let you know
[10:04] <ardchoille> theplastikjesus: that's one of the nicest features :)
[10:04] <Maveas> Seriously, I don't what to do to get my wireless card to connect to my ap :/
[10:04] <skalka> hi guys, I have a problem with a intel 4965 wireless card
[10:04] <Skaag> ok so ebox is definitely broken in intrepid
[10:04] <theplastikjesus> ardchoille: is there a way to move avant other than the defualt location it comes in
[10:05] <pen> !ask
[10:05] <nite_johnboy> IdleOne: So could I use the a term for my own information - Like say I used my own login name as follows: " !dvd > nite_johnboy " and give results to myself ? ?
[10:05] <fogel> hi
[10:05] <fogel> where is .conkyrc file in ubuntu?
[10:05] <ardchoille> theplastikjesus: I've never looked into that
[10:05] <Savage-{> anybody able to get pulseaudio working with wine for OSS?
[10:05] <ikonia> fogel your home dir normally
[10:05] <threequarks> .conkyrc lives in your home directory. if it isnt there , just create it
[10:05] <IdleOne> nite_johnboy, yes but to avoid spamming to the channel you can just enter dvd in the ubottu chat window and get info
[10:06] <theplastikjesus> ardchoille: ok thx
[10:06] <fogel> ikonia: an if i doesn't have it where it is to cpoy it from?
[10:06] <Zvezdichko> hmmm.. obviously avidemux doesn't work. is there a .flv to .avi converter which works in console
[10:06]  * chip__ sends greetings
[10:06] <ikonia> fogel the man page tells you how to make one
[10:06] <fogel> ok
[10:07] <fogel> ok
[10:07] <skalka> my problem is that wireless speed connection on ubuntu is much slower than on win xp with a intel 4965 card and only with some router
[10:07] <theplastikjesus> ardchoille: do u know if it takes alot of memory to have a bunch of icons in avant?
[10:07] <theplastikjesus> launchers rather
[10:07] <Panarchy> I've got a massive problem, when I installed Ubuntu over 8.04 (8.10) it seemed to work perfectly... but I can't use apt
[10:07] <Panarchy> please help
[10:07] <fogel> and i cant find how to install gcc plugins to recompile my kernel
[10:07] <ikonia> Panarchy what is the problem/error
[10:07] <fogel> (looking on google)
[10:07] <ikonia> fogel gcc are not plugins, why do you need to recopile your kenrel ?
[10:07] <Panarchy> ikonia
[10:08] <ikonia> Panarchy: yes ?
[10:08] <Panarchy> what the paste box thing
[10:08] <Maveas> fogel, i've just used "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[10:08] <ikonia> !paste > Panarchy
[10:08] <ardchoille> theplastikjesus: it doesn't on my machine
[10:08] <nite_johnboy> IdleOne: Ok - I got it - Do not want to abuse the use of this forum... - Will see what I come up with in Synaptics as well - Thanks for your patience.
[10:08] <Panarchy> !past
[10:08] <Panarchy> !paste
[10:08] <theplastikjesus> ardchoille: ok cool thx
[10:09] <hmw_> often the volume control does a mean trick to me: i move the slider, and suddenly the link between the left/right channel is opened and the other slider drops to zero volume. i cant find out, why. i would like to "hard link" both channels, this is quite annoying. do you know this symptom?
[10:09] <Maveas> !blacklist
[10:09] <Panarchy> hang on a second
[10:09] <Savage-{> Is there a way to get OSS to work with Pulseaudio? I am having issues with WoW in wine
[10:09] <Panarchy> ikonia
[10:09] <Panarchy> seems to of fixed itself
[10:09] <Panarchy> though wireless still doesn't wrok
[10:09] <Panarchy> 2 questions
[10:09] <Maveas> How do I edit the blacklist file in etc/modprobe.d?
[10:09]  * Panarchy asks first question
[10:09] <IdleOne> nite_johnboy, you are welcome. anytime you need help please ask in here
[10:09] <ikonia> Panarchy still waiting for you to tell me in what way it doesn't work
[10:10] <ikonia> !blacklist > Maveas
[10:10] <Panarchy> how do I take out the power button (smaller) icon from the top menubar once Ubuntu 8.10 is installed?
[10:10] <cens0red> hmmmm. Groovy yacht http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Oberon-Class-Submarine-Ex-HMAS-Otama-Maritime-Museum_W0QQitemZ170280823913QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Boats?hash=item170280823913&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1307
[10:10] <Maveas> ikonia: yeah, read it, so I just make a new file named "my_blacklist"?
[10:10] <ikonia> Panarchy right click and hit remove
[10:10] <ikonia> Maveas if you want
[10:10] <Maveas> But cant I just edit the blacklist file?
[10:10] <ikonia> Maveas sure
[10:10] <Maveas> How do I get permission to i?
[10:11] <Maveas> it*
[10:11] <Panarchy> ikonia: Sorry, just did that
[10:11] <ikonia> Maveas use sudo
[10:11] <cacho> sexo
[10:11] <Maveas> I dont now how? :D
[10:11] <Panarchy> ikonia: was not what I wanted, I want it to tell me what user is logged in
[10:11] <ikonia> cens0red thats not needed in here - it's offtopic it
[10:11] <ikonia> Panarchy you want to remove the power button to tell you what user is logged in ???
[10:11] <Panarchy> ikonia: I just wanted to get rid of the icon, so I wouldn't have a big icon next to a small icon
[10:11] <ikonia> Panarchy: then move it
[10:12] <Panarchy> ikonia, I merely wanted to get rid of the ICON
[10:12] <ikonia> Panarchy: and thats what you did
[10:12] <mon^rch> Panarchy: can't you just r-click and remove from panel?
[10:12] <AUTOEXEC> i screwed up my apache. now i want to remove all files, and then reinstall them because apt-get install got it right. but after 'sudo apt-get remove apache2' i still find all the apache files in /etc/apache2 and /usr/sbin - how come??
[10:13] <Panarchy> no, I can't
[10:13] <Maveas> Grr, cant get permission to safe blacklist.. :S
[10:13] <mon^rch> crappy
[10:13] <Panarchy> well I've done that
[10:13] <ikonia> Panarchy why, what happens
[10:13] <Panarchy> but I want the second menu
[10:13] <ikonia> Maveas what command are you using
[10:13] <Savage-{> nm I got it
[10:13] <AUTOEXEC>  i screwed up my apache. now i want to remove all files, and then reinstall them because apt-get install got it right. but after 'sudo apt-get remove apache2' i still find all the apache files in /etc/apache2 and /usr/sbin - how come??
[10:14] <Panarchy> that you get when clicking the smaller 'shutdown' icon
[10:14] <AUTOEXEC> how can i remove ALL apache files?
[10:14] <Panarchy> purge
[10:14] <Maveas> I've opened the blacklist file in gedit
[10:14] <ikonia> Maveas did you use sudo
[10:14] <Maveas> sudo with what command? :S
[10:14] <ikonia> Maveas: sudo $editor $file
[10:14] <Panarchy> sudo apt-get remove apache2
[10:15] <ikonia> Maveas: I told you to use sudo - so if you've not - it's not going to allow you to edit the file
[10:15] <Panarchy> how do I remove the smaller 'shutdown' icon that appears next to my username?
[10:15] <ikonia> Panarchy right click on it ?
[10:16] <Panarchy> that removed the whole bar
[10:16] <ikonia> Panarchy it shouldn't
[10:16] <Panarchy> (BTW: How do I get the bar back?)
[10:16] <mon^rch> lool
[10:16] <transporter> guys unable to play .dat files
[10:16] <bazhang> !resetpanels
[10:16] <transporter> generally vcd files
[10:16] <Maveas> sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and then what? :S
[10:16] <Maveas> it wont opben
[10:16] <transporter> can somebody help me plz
[10:17] <ikonia> Maveas what does it sayu
[10:17] <ikonia> say
[10:17] <ikonia> transporter: ask a question
[10:17] <bazhang> transporter, using what app
[10:17] <Maveas> cannot open display
[10:17] <ikonia> Maveas gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[10:17] <Panarchy> Thanks, all is good again
[10:17] <Maveas> doesnt work
[10:17] <Maveas> :/
[10:17] <Panarchy> (forgot how many things I added to that bar)
[10:17] <Panarchy> Well found the problem
[10:18] <AUTOEXEC> can someone ssh my apache out of trouble? anyone got a minute for a newb?
[10:18] <Panarchy> still has the big shutdown button from 8.04
[10:18] <ikonia> AUTOEXEC what's the issue
[10:18] <hmw_> AUTOEXEC whats the problem?
[10:18] <Panarchy> I'll ssh your apache :P
[10:18] <ikonia> Maveas you need to start saying more than "doesn't work" start saying the error/problem
[10:18] <IdleOne> AUTOEXEC, don't allow people root access to your machine
[10:18] <Maveas> cannot open display
[10:18] <ikonia> AUTOEXEC do not allow untrusted people access to your machine
[10:18] <ikonia> Maveas type "id" in a terminal and show me the output please
[10:18] <AUTOEXEC> idleone: why not? nothing of value on my machine.
[10:19] <mon^rch> Panarchy: try creating a new user for yourself, and then copy over all your settings?
[10:19] <neao> 很好用啊。
[10:19] <IdleOne> AUTOEXEC, ask for help be patient and do it yourself
[10:19] <bazhang> neao, english here
[10:19] <mavsman4457> Why doesn't my mic work now that I upgraded to ibex?
[10:19] <hmw_> AUTOEXEC people could place backdoors
[10:19] <IdleOne> AUTOEXEC, root access gives people the ability to add things not just take
[10:19] <fogel> ikonia: to optimize my system
[10:19] <bazhang> for chinese /join #ubuntu-cn neao
[10:19] <neao> ok.
[10:19] <ikonia> fogel in what way ?
[10:19] <AUTOEXEC> yeah i'm aware of that.
[10:19] <Panarchy> okay, autoexec, contact me via 'private chat' and tell me the server location and password
[10:19] <fogel> to make it faster?
[10:19] <ikonia> fogel: how do you think re-compiling the kernel will optimise your sytem, what do you plan to chance
[10:19] <ikonia> change
[10:19] <AUTOEXEC> well then, i screwed my apache, how can i remove all the files so i can get it again with apt-get install? cause then it worked.
[10:19] <Panarchy> ah
[10:19] <AUTOEXEC>  sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2
[10:19] <AUTOEXEC> [sudo] password for tgf:
[10:19] <AUTOEXEC> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:19] <AUTOEXEC> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:20] <fogel> include only these drivers i need for example
[10:20] <FloodBot1> AUTOEXEC: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:20] <Panarchy> well find the apache directory
[10:20] <IdleOne> AUTOEXEC, don't come back to us when stuff hits the fan. you were warned
[10:20] <Panarchy> and type in
[10:20] <AUTOEXEC> floodbot: relax am just fast.
[10:20] <Panarchy> sudo rm -r
[10:20] <piksi> AUTOEXEC: close the other program using dpkg?
[10:20] <ikonia> fogel the kernel is modular, so they are not in use anyway unless you load them
[10:20] <AUTOEXEC> piksi: like?
[10:20] <bazhang> AUTOEXEC, close add/remove or other apt front ends
[10:20] <ikonia> fogel so that won't make a difference
[10:20] <fogel> so you see, i prefer drivers compiled in kernel, not as modules :)
[10:20] <ikonia> fogel why ?
[10:21] <bazhang> AUTOEXEC, and next time paste.ubuntu.com (NOT here)
[10:21] <ikonia> fogel: your going to lose ubuntu support for no reason
[10:21] <fogel> ikonia: but i'll still have the original kernel, don't worry
[10:21] <Panarchy> sorry, changed to GUI IRC client
[10:22] <ikonia> fogel yes but you lose support
[10:22] <Maveas> ikonia: I don't need to edit blacklist anyway - the driver I'm using is only for monitor mode
[10:22] <AUTOEXEC> it says ubuntu is not installed anymore so nothing was removed, if thats true how come i still get the very same result with 'whereis apache2'?
[10:22] <fogel> ok, so i will
[10:22] <Maveas> So there is no problem
[10:22] <Maveas> hihi xD
[10:22] <ikonia> fogel ok then,
[10:22] <ikonia> fogel I again suggest you don't as you don't seem confident with what your doing (asking how to isntall gcc) but it's your call
[10:23] <baruch> how to connect with xchat to a server not on the list?
[10:23] <ikonia> fogel: you will get no performance boost
[10:23] <mavsman4457> My microphone doesn't work anymore
[10:23] <fogel> yes i know your opinion
[10:23] <Maveas> Is it possible to use rt61pci for wlan0 and at the same time use rt61 for wlan1?
[10:23] <skalka> my problem is that wireless speed connection on ubuntu is much slower than on win xp with a intel 4965 card and only with some router
[10:24] <ikonia> skalka: it is possible the drivers are not as good
[10:24] <fogel> why everyone has to make problems if i want to do anything with my os and asking how to do it...?
[10:24] <bazhang> Maveas, load balancing?
[10:24] <ikonia> fogel: do it then
[10:24] <Maveas> bazhang: yeah? how does that work?
[10:24] <bazhang> fogel, its not supported here
[10:24] <baruch> how to connect with xchat to a server not on the list?
[10:24] <ikonia> fogel: re-compiling the kernel is not supported - hence why your not getting support
[10:24] <Maveas> add the new one?
[10:24] <bazhang> Maveas, not that simple
[10:24] <IdleOne> baruch, /server irc.server-name.com
[10:25] <Maveas> ups
[10:25] <baruch> thx, IdleOne :)
[10:25] <fogel> ok, so what else is not supported? just in case if i'd like to ask about it...
[10:25] <Maveas> !google
[10:25] <Maveas> !google load balancing ubuntu
[10:25] <bazhang> fogel, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:25] <AUTOEXEC> if apache is not installed, how come all these config files are still here??
[10:25] <IdleOne> Maveas, you do not have the fu yet it seems
[10:26] <skalka> ikonia: I've tried with compat-wireless as suggested somewhere... but the wireless stops workink at all
[10:26] <ikonia> skalka I've no idea what your orginal question was,
[10:26] <fogel> but anyway... thx for help ;)
[10:26] <fogel> but anyway... thx for help ;)
[10:26] <piksi> AUTOEXEC: because apt-get remove doesn't necessarely remove config files removing with purge does
[10:27] <puff> Anyody know if it's feasible to use a zune as a USB drive from ubuntu?
[10:27] <Maveas> bazhang: I'm not sure that it's "load balancing" I need? :S
[10:27] <piksi> that's why it's called purging
[10:27] <AUTOEXEC> piksi: i closed synaptic package manager but still gettin an error.
[10:27] <skalka> ikonia: with some routers my wireless speed is much slower than on windows xp
[10:27] <piksi> AUTOEXEC: see with ps aux if there are some undead instances of update managers or apt running, like ps aux|grep apt or grep update
[10:28] <piksi> then kill the processes
[10:28] <ikonia> skalka: as I've said the drivers may just not be as good
[10:28] <Maveas> I'm trying to learn to use aircrack-ng and I want wlan0 to connect to my AP, so I can use wlan1 to monitor the connection between my ap and wlan0
[10:29] <Maveas> So I need two specific drivers loaded at once - rt61pci for wlan0 and rt61 for wlan1
[10:29] <skalka> ikonia: which kind of drivers i've to use? with compat-wireless the card doesn't work at all, I've backport-modules installed and I heve this problem since gutsy
[10:29] <Maveas> Can't that be done in a "simple" way? :)
[10:29] <AUTOEXEC> piksi: after installing with apt-get, apache2 should by default start automatically right?
[10:29] <mlesniak> Hi, how can I mix the list of directories and files while using ls? By default, directories are listed on top of the list
[10:29] <bazhang> Maveas, you have two wireless cards?
[10:29] <ikonia> skalka if the drivers arn't as good (they mey/maynot be) that may be your limitation
[10:29] <Maveas> Yeah
[10:30] <bazhang> Maveas, that does not sound possible
[10:30] <Maveas> :S
[10:30] <piksi> AUTOEXEC: i don't remember if it does. you can trigger it with /etc/init.d/apache restart iirc
[10:30] <Maveas> Hmm, I've read somewhere that a guy used two cards - one for AP connection and the other for aircrack-ng (at the same time)
[10:30] <Maveas> Hihi
[10:30] <skalka> ikonia: ok, but how can i find the right driver? this card is quite common
[10:31] <Maveas> iwpriv
[10:31] <Maveas> Ups, forget that ^
[10:31] <bazhang> Maveas, /join #aircrack
[10:31] <mclure> what ubuntu software would you recommend to draw simple 2D graphs. I need units on the y and x units. can't fint that in oo-draw
[10:31] <Maveas> I've did, but they don't now anything about it
[10:31] <Maveas> know*
[10:32] <cheeps> Is it possible to recompile current kernel modules? My lirc is complaining that "lirc kernel modules" aint working
[10:32] <hmw_> i exported the compiz settings, but now there is no effect, when i try to reimport
[10:32] <vallhalla81> mclure: blender
[10:32] <bazhang> Maveas, that is your best bet, or a search of ubuntuforums
[10:32] <ikonia> cheeps not advised
[10:32] <cheeps> I dont want to compile a new kernel
[10:32] <Maveas> I'll do then
[10:32] <ikonia> cheeps: better to find out why lirc things tehre is a problem
[10:32] <cheeps> ikonia: ive reported a problem, but noone seems to answer in launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lirc/+bug/301115
[10:32] <ikonia> cheeps: for example I've used lirc with 8.04 and 8.10 and suspect it maybe a config error over something fatal
[10:32] <vallhalla81> mclure:  or gimp for somthing a little less complex
[10:33] <cheeps> ikonia: no, its not a config error because it works okay with older kernel, ive done fresh install of 8.04 and updated to 8.10 and lirc still gives me the same error
[10:33] <Panarchy> LAST QUESTION
[10:33] <Panarchy> okay guys
[10:34] <ikonia> cheeps log a bug for it (which I see you have done) and get teh developers to push  fix down
[10:34] <Maveas> Hmm
[10:34] <mclure> vallhalla81: yeah. I could use matlab, but its a bit unneccessary. just need the correct scale on the axis. ie starting from 0 to 250 with steps of 50. strange, thought that would be included in openoffice
[10:34] <Panarchy> I've noticed on my laptop, with 8.04 (now 8.10) that when I click something on the panel, eg Firefox, it gives me a 'splash' of the icon a little below itself
[10:34] <renoork> hello
[10:34] <Maveas> I stop a module with rmmod, right?
[10:34] <renoork> french here ?
[10:34] <Panarchy> how do I get that feature in 8.10?
[10:35] <Maveas> "rmmod rt61" says "Module rt61 is in use"
[10:35] <bazhang> #ubuntu-fr renoork
[10:35] <Panarchy> june ce pa
[10:35] <ikonia> !fe > renoork
[10:35] <cheeps> ikonia: no dev seems to take interest in my problem, at least not yet..
[10:35] <renoork> ok thznks
[10:35] <Maveas> !rmmod
[10:35] <Maveas> !info rmmod
[10:35] <ikonia> !fr > renoork
[10:35] <renoork> ok
[10:35] <ikonia> cheeps how long ago did you log it
[10:35] <kg87> maveas - sudo modprobe -r rt61
[10:35] <ikonia> cheeps:  you may also consider contacting the lirc package maintainer so he can talk with the correct kernel maintainer
[10:36] <cheeps> ikonia: 2008-11-22
[10:36] <Maveas> What does rmmod do then?
[10:36] <renoork> how join french channel please ?
[10:36] <bazhang> renoork, /join #channel
[10:36] <ikonia> cheeps 2 days, give them a chance
[10:36] <kg87> Hi everyone, I've managed to kill my fonts... firefox is only showing images and text appears as "white
[10:36] <renoork> thanks bazhang
[10:36] <ron2nix> is there any way to change my local ip on ubuntu? like it's 192.168.220.131, and i'm looking more for like 192.168.2.4
[10:36] <Maveas> sudo modprobe -r rt61 says the same "FATAL: Module rt61 is in use"
[10:36] <kg87> ron2nix, manually configure your IP
[10:37] <kg87> hmm sorry maveas
[10:37] <mavsman4457> What are the default settings for alsamixer?
[10:37] <ron2nix> just nos sure where to start on linux heh
[10:37] <cheeps> ikonia: I guess its not so long...
[10:37]  * Mustinet yb
[10:37] <kg87> ron2nix 1 sec...
[10:37] <ron2nix> k
[10:37] <ikonia> cheeps still wouldn't hurt to contact the maintainer, introduce yourself and outline the bug you've logged
[10:38] <Misterjos> hey, does anyone has this problem: i have trouble with selecting text in ubuntu, because it seems to regularily double click even if i just hold left mouse button, its a very annoying problem. All help is welcome!
[10:38] <oxr> yo
[10:38] <ron2nix> I wonder if vmware doesn't muck up the local ip like that or something
[10:38] <ron2nix> it's linux and not vmware right?
[10:38] <cheeps> ikonia: synaptic tells me that the maintainer is "Ubuntu Core Developers"
[10:38] <mavsman4457> Can someone just quickly go to the terminal and type "alsamixer" and tell me what your settings are?
[10:39] <ikonia> cheeps if you look on launchad you'll find the lirc package maintainer, or #ubuntu-bugs may know him (he may even be idling in therE)
[10:39] <ron2nix> mavs: no
[10:39] <AUTOEXEC> i used purge to remove apache2, and manually deleted all config files, then i used apt-get install to reinstall, but now whereis apache2 won't show anything?
[10:40] <ron2nix> I was trying to forward ports to linux and noticed my router is lame and only lets you forward within the 192.168.2.* block and linux is using a different one
[10:40] <ron2nix> haha
[10:40] <kg87> is there anyway of rebuilding the fonts in buntu?
[10:40] <AUTOEXEC> when i try to start apache2 it says: no apache MPM package installed?
[10:41] <kieko> can someone help me with adding a jar file to applications menu?
[10:41] <ikonia> kieko: you don't add jar files, they are just java archives
[10:41] <kieko> i specify the path + java -jar GoGrinder.jar but application doesn't launch
[10:41] <ron2nix> I do of course blame the router for being lame, and not the user for buying it, but only in this case i guess
[10:42] <ikonia> kieko: does it need a terminal to launch
[10:42] <kieko> ikonia, when i navigate to file and do java -jar GoGrinder.jar in terminal it launches; i want to add a gui launcher to applications menu though/preferably
[10:42] <ikonia> kieko: then you need to launch a terminal that launches that command, not that command
[10:43] <ron2nix> I hate it when you accidentally forget you "sudo su'd" and make install and then have to go back and change all the permissions
[10:43] <kieko> ikonia, so in app menu i edit and in the dialog window there is a drop down menu i selct terminal?
[10:43] <ikonia> kieko: no, that will just launch a terminal, you need a custom
[10:44] <kieko> ikonia, ok, in that case i don't follow now
[10:44] <ron2nix> and then after that you realize "oops, i make install'd" too
[10:44] <kg87> I have font issues!!!!!
[10:44] <Panarchy> I've noticed on my laptop, with 8.04 (now 8.10) that when I click something on the panel, eg Firefox, it gives me a 'splash' of the icon a little below itself
[10:44] <ikonia> kieko you need a custom command that launches a terminal, with the command to lauch the java application
[10:44] <Panarchy> how do I get that feature in 8.10?
[10:44] <kieko> ikonia, 1st off is it possible to do what i want?
[10:44] <ikonia> kieko should be
[10:45] <kieko> ikonia, do you know how?
[10:45] <ikonia> kieko I've just told you
[10:45] <kieko> ikonia, ok, but i don't know how to make a custom command
[10:45] <ikonia> kieko there is an option to make a custom launcher
[10:45] <kieko> ikonia, specifically?
[10:45] <ikonia> 10:45 < kieko> ikonia, specifically?
[10:46] <Ximal> how do i look up an isbn number ?
[10:46] <ikonia> oops
[10:46] <ikonia> kieko yes
[10:46] <ikonia> Ximal use a website, nothing to do with ubuntu
[10:46] <lars_bauer> hey there, is there a goggle earth interface for my Hardy Heron ?
[10:46] <ron2nix> wait this IP issue is probably a vmware issue, not an ubuntu issue
[10:46] <ron2nix> vmware's putting it in 192.168.220.*
[10:46] <bazhang> lars_bauer, get it from medibuntu.org
[10:47] <ikonia> ron2nix: your bridging is not setup correctly
[10:47] <lars_bauer> bazhang: thx, ill try that :-)
[10:47] <ron2nix> yeah
[10:47] <Boohbah> Ximal: i hear loc.gov is nice
[10:47] <ron2nix> I'll have to work on that tomorrow. I'm off to bed fairly soon. just winding down
[10:47] <kieko> ikonia, that is what i have been trying to do; create a custom launcher in App Menu... i don't know what to enter in the command dialog though
[10:47] <Ximal> thank's boohbah
[10:47] <Panarchy> I've noticed on my laptop, with 8.04 (now 8.10) that when I click something on the panel, eg Firefox, it gives me a 'splash' of the icon a little below itself. I really like this feature. How do I get it back for Ubuntu 8.10?
[10:48] <ikonia> Ximal please keep offtopic questions out of #ubuntu
[10:48] <Ximal> ikonia ... please stop that..
[10:48] <ikonia> Ximal: stop what ?
[10:48] <bazhang> Ximal, what
[10:48] <Ximal> i ask a MILLION support questions in here and NOONE EVER ANSWERS.. yet if I ask 1 question about another subject suddenly you are all over me..
[10:49] <bazhang> Ximal, it is offtopic.
[10:49] <Ximal> I find it disrespectful and untasteful and very very hard for us..
[10:49] <ikonia> Ximal: that doesn't matter, please control yourselt and not ask offtopic question
[10:49] <kieko> ikonia, iin ~/apps i have an application which launches in terminal when i type java -jar GoGrinder.jar Can you tell me how i can make that run from custum launcher?
[10:49] <bazhang> Ximal, there is a chat channel for that --->#ubuntu-offtopic
[10:49] <ikonia> kieko I've explained wha tyou need to do
[10:49] <ikonia> kieko: I don't have a gui in front of me to look up the options for you
[10:49] <Boohbah> kieko: just make a new launcher with that line in it
[10:49] <Ximal> I've asked 1 off topic in here since i've been warned in over 3 or 4 months... go warn someone else ikonia
[10:50] <bazhang> Ximal, please stop.
[10:50] <kieko> Boohbah, that is what i did, but it doesn't work
[10:50] <kieko> Boohbah, | ikonia that iw why i came here to ask where i am going wrong
[10:51] <zhaozhou> Boohbah, where did you get that nick? O.o
[10:51] <Boohbah> zhaozhou: i picked it out myself, thanks! http://boohbah.tv
[10:52] <Maveas> :D
[10:52] <zhaozhou> Boohbah, xD goobah.org
[10:52] <Maveas> goobah.org - what is that?
[10:52] <zhaozhou> My unfinished site
[10:53] <Maveas> About what?
[10:53] <zhaozhou> Maveas, It's going to be a javashell, but i havent got around to finish it
[10:53] <zhaozhou> Maveas, javascriptshell, rather
[10:53] <Boohbah> zhaozhou: nice css.. hope you mean js and not java ;)
[10:53] <kieko> tells me it failed to execute child process that ther is no such file or directory ???
[10:54] <Boohbah> kieko: maybe your java binary is not in your PATH
[10:54] <kieko> ikonia, you told me what to do but not specifically how. What you told me to do i had already done but its not working
[10:54] <zhaozhou> Boohbah, Heh, yup, I did.
[10:54] <ikonia> kieko: you had not done what I todl you to do
[10:54] <kieko> Boohbah, it must be because when ido it in a terminal it works
[10:54] <ikonia> kieko: typing that command won't work
[10:55] <kieko> ikonia, well, tell me again then please. It seems i misunderstood you then
[10:55] <ikonia> kieko: you need to launch a termina, that invokes the command you want to use, so it runs within that terminal
[10:55] <kieko> ikonia, and i don't know how to do that
[10:55] <ikonia> kieko: and I explained I didn't have a gui available to walk you through it
[10:55] <ikonia> kieko: that doesn't mean what you need to do has changed, so asking and asking won't change it
[10:56] <Boohbah> kieko: i got kde4 in front of me but i think there is an option in gnome to right click and create a new terminal launcher
[10:56] <ikonia> Boohbah: there is, I just don't have the gui in front of me to point exactly where to him, you are correct rhoguh
[10:56] <ikonia> though
[10:56] <kieko> Boohbah, i'm in the App Menu but don't know what either of you are asking me to do exactly
[10:57] <bazhang> there is Boohbah right click create launcher as you say, and you can specify application, app in terminal, etc
[10:57] <msetim> hello guys
[10:58] <Boohbah> kieko: right click on the blank desktop to create a new terminal app launcher
[10:58] <SpAc> can I choose which kernel to download and install during installation - on the alternate / minimal CD image perhaps?
[10:58] <bazhang> SpAc, what do you mean
[10:58] <ikonia> SpAc no
[10:58] <ikonia> SpAc: it installs teh default kernel
[10:58] <msetim> I'm using beagle in hardy and I would like to update it to version 0.38. How can I do this?
[10:58] <bazhang> like the rt kernel SpAc ?
[10:58] <Boohbah> SpAc: you can always install a custom kernel when the default install finishes before you reboot
[10:58] <bazhang> msetim, why do you need the latest beagle
[10:59] <B|ackPanther> Is there a cheaper way i can get ubuntu training ? something like just buying the material and studying on my own and then going for exams instead of being trained ?
[10:59] <SpAc> Boohbah, ikonia, bazhang: thanks. I want to install the server kernel instead of the generic one. So before reboot would be the best option?
[10:59] <kieko> Boohbah, yes, that is the same dialog that i get in Apps Menu and i don't kknow what else to do with it.. in the top there is s drop down for either Application or Terminal and what i've put in the 'command' section is the path + command that would otherwise launch it in a terminal which ikonia says is not gonna work. what is the correct command
[11:00] <Andy80> hi all, my Firefox looks like "broken": Back, Forward, Reload buttons are always gray, Bookmarks are gone, lot of websites don't work anymore (for example I cannot click on Login button on www.ustream.tv). I've tried to re-install ff3 packages but it didn't help. How can I fix it?
[11:00] <kieko> ikonia, you don't need to walk me through the gui... i just need the right command
[11:00] <msetim> bazhang: to avoid some kind of bug because my beagled-helper is using 100% CPU.
[11:00] <ikonia> kieko I've told you the right command
[11:00] <ryan__> segwaystar
[11:00] <ikonia> kieko: if you can't find where to put it, I do need to walk you through
[11:00] <bazhang> B|ackPanther, training? please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:00] <Boohbah> Andy80: rm -rf ~/.mozilla ro remove all firefox settings, bookmarks, etc.
[11:01] <kieko> ikonia, what is it then? All i hear is that i need a command which will launch a terminal with the command in it. BUt i repeat i don't know how to do that
[11:01] <kieko> ikonia, i know where to put it... i just don't know the command
[11:01] <bazhang> kieko, pay attention then
[11:01] <SpAc> Boohbah: cool, cause I'm using the minimal CD image to run up a server remotely.
[11:01] <bazhang> kieko, right click create launcher
[11:01] <kieko> bazhang, i am. He simply hasn't told me the exact command.
[11:01] <kieko> bazhang, yes
[11:02] <bazhang> kieko, then choose the appropriate launcher and add the command
[11:02] <kieko> i got that part down to a tee
[11:02] <ikonia> kieko: for example "xterm -e" - try it in a terminal
[11:02] <AUTOEXEC> guys, please HELP: i removed apache2 in order to reinstall and just did successfully reinstalled with apt-get install but whereis apache won't show the directories it used to?
[11:02] <kieko> bazhang, you say 'add the command' What command?
[11:02] <bazhang> kieko, to do what
[11:02] <kieko> bazhang, lol, and you're telling me to pay attention?
[11:02] <Oli``> Andy80: I'd NOT remove .mozilla -- move it instead
[11:02] <Boohbah> kieko: add your java command ...
[11:03] <kieko> Boohbah, i repeat - i have - AND it doesn't work, sorry
[11:03] <bazhang> kieko, I have not been following what you are trying to do.
[11:03] <ikonia> kieko xterm -e $command
[11:03] <bazhang> kieko, we are volunteers here.
[11:03] <Andy80> Oli``: too late -.-
[11:03] <kieko> bazhang, me too
[11:03] <Oli``> Andy80: Hope you didn't lose anything too important =\
[11:04] <SpAc> then again, I will probably just use the Server CD to install. If I don't select any extra packages that should be the same as the minimal CD right?
[11:04] <bazhang> kieko, do you need us to guess the command? what precisely do you want to do?
[11:04] <kieko> bazhang, sorry, i was just trying to do what ikonai just gave me
[11:04] <bazhang> SpAc, not so; the minimal is only 9mb
[11:04] <Andy80> Oli``: my bookmarks are synced with Foxmarks, and I only used two extensions: AdBlock and Foxmarks... I'll reinstall them
[11:04] <ikonia> SpAc: no
[11:04] <Oli``> Boohbah: Please be cautious when telling somebody to delete things. I'd be thoroughly annoyed with you if you had just told me to remove my ~/.mozilla dir
[11:04] <ikonia> SpAc: the server setup is aimed at enterprise class ahrdware
[11:05] <SpAc> bazhang: but that is because it downloads the other packages from repo
[11:05] <ikonia> SpAc: it is not the same as the desktop/minimal
[11:05] <kieko> bazhang, i have an applicaiton in ~/apps which i launch in a terminal with java -jar GoGrinder.jar and all i want to do is add it in my Apps Menu
[11:05] <unix> anyone here can help me solving my problems on my a4tech webcam not working on kopete, but if i try to use ekiga... my webcam is working well. im using linux 8.10 entripid
[11:05] <ikonia> SpAc: use the desktop cd and remove what you don't want, or use the minimal cd aqnd build up what you want
[11:05] <Oli``> Andy80: Phew =) Just losing my cookies and saved passwords would kill me.
[11:05] <bazhang> SpAc, easiest would be to install server imo
[11:05] <SpAc> ikonia: ok... so for servers... use the server cd?
[11:05] <SpAc> makes sense :P
[11:06] <zhaozhou> kieko, be sure to add the 'cd ~/apps' though, but you probably know this already
[11:06] <Andy80> Oli``: doh! didn't remember those :(
[11:06] <Boohbah> Oli``: i also told him it would remove all firefox settings, bookmarks, etc. which was the desired effect for fixing a borkked install... i assume he would know to backup if he wanted to keep anything from being deleted
[11:06] <zhaozhou> kieko, 'cd ~/apps && java -jar GoGrinder.jar' (:
[11:06] <ikonia> SpAc: you cracked the code, well done ;)
[11:06] <kieko> zhaozhou, thx
[11:07] <SpAc> thanks
[11:07] <Maveas> Man, I'm in love with linux now :P
[11:08] <kieko> zhaozhou, unfortunately that doesn't work either
[11:08] <Maveas> It's beautiful
[11:08] <ikonia> kieko: what part have I not explained  ?
[11:09] <kieko> ikonia, i need the full command. I tried applying your thing with xterm -e but alli get is a a window that pops up and noapplication
[11:09] <ikonia> kieko so do an xterm -e ls
[11:09] <ikonia> kieko: build up, don't try to do it from attempt one
[11:09] <andy_> hi
[11:10] <Saga> Hmm -- I think I installed Moblock / Mobloquer -- How do I run the GUI?
[11:10] <kieko> ikonia, xterm -e ls ~/apps  java -jar GoGrinder.jar  <--- like that?
[11:10] <Boohbah> kieko: xterm -e your_command_here
[11:11] <kieko> Boohbah,  xterm -e ls ~/apps  java -jar GoGrinder.jar  <--- like that?
[11:11] <ikonia> kieko no
[11:11] <Boohbah> kieko: xterm -e 'java -jar GoGrinder.jar'
[11:11] <ikonia> kieko: just "xterm -e ls" see if your new xterm does ls for you
[11:11] <dmarkey_> does 8.10 have official xen dom0 support?
[11:12] <AUTOEXEC> how is it possible that right after sudo apt-get install apache2 'whereis apache2' wont list anything? (i previously used remove purge to remove apache2 and manually delted config files)
[11:12] <ikonia> dmarkey_: should do, I did work on the beta versions dom0 for testing and there was a few issues, but it did work
[11:12] <kieko> Boohbah, xterm -e 'java -jar GoGrinder.jar that is what i did earlier at ikonia's prompting and which i said didn't work
[11:13] <frith> this idiot here has forgotten his keyring password
[11:13] <ikonia> kieko start at the basics
[11:13] <ikonia> kieko: xterm -e ls
[11:13] <yarborea> AUTOEXEC don't you have to run updatedb before expecting brand new items to be listed?
[11:13] <ikonia> yarborea: nah, it's in /usr/sbin so thats covered
[11:14] <kieko> ikonia, nothing happens when i do that
[11:14] <ikonia> kieko: nothing at all
[11:14] <AUTOEXEC> yarborea: might very well be. how do i do that?
[11:14] <t3mper> hello room, i need help with making my local hosted wordpress blog available online.
[11:15] <yarborea> AUTOEXEC ikonia is probably right but if you want to try anyway just type - sudo updatedb and hit return
[11:15] <kieko> ikonia, apparently not
[11:15] <Maveas> Lol, "Linux has no concept of a "file extension" like legacy operating systems", I didn't know that xD You get smarter everyday, hihi
[11:15] <Maveas> LOVE
[11:15] <deoks> t3mper: Read up on howto install and configure Apache.
[11:15] <gord_> I lol @ file extensions
[11:15] <ikonia> kieko lets try something that doesn't go away, xterm -e xclock
[11:16] <Maveas> gord_: yeah :)
[11:16] <ikonia> kieko: or xterm -e /usr/bin/xclock
[11:16] <AUTOEXEC> how do i manually run updatedb?
[11:17] <kieko> xterm -e xclock launches a clock alrite ikonia
[11:17] <yarborea> AUTOEXEC trouble is I've never had to install Apache and I was only speaking generally.
[11:17] <Chaotic_Descent> I've been trying to learn SQL (and it's web integration) off and on over the years, but never got very far... any recommendations on which LAMP package to go with? Should I switch up PHP for Perl or Python? ... oh. I see XAMPP does both PHP and Perl...
[11:17] <ikonia> kieko ok, so that means xterm -e ls launches ls then exists witht he terminal
[11:17] <skenmon> hi
[11:17] <ikonia> kieko: so you need to do "xterm -e $path/to/java -$options $/path/to/jars"
[11:18] <t3mper> deoks, i already got LAMP up. I have a website up as well but i can't link to my wordpress blog
[11:18] <t3mper> any ideas?
[11:19] <Chaotic_Descent> I'm easily discouraged, so I don't want to get off on the wrong path...
[11:19] <kieko> ikonia, viz. xterm -e ~/apps java -jar GoGrinder.jar ?
[11:19] <deoks> t3mper: What do you mean by "link"?
[11:19] <ikonia> kieko: no
[11:19] <kieko> ikonia, :[
[11:19] <Saga> Hi -- I logged out and signed in -- I installed Moblock / Mobloquer -- How do I run the GUI? ;o
[11:19] <t3mper> better that i show you my site. is it okay to post a url here?
[11:20] <t3mper> or do i get kicked if i do that?
[11:20] <ikonia> kieko: is ~/apps anything to do with the path to java ?
[11:20] <kieko> ikonia, i don't get your last line $/path/to/jars ?
[11:20] <bazhang> t3mper, in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:20] <Chaotic_Descent> Maybe I should try a... LAMP IRC channel?
[11:20] <Chaotic_Descent> man... searching for "AMP" on IRC is going to be painful.
[11:20] <kieko> ikonia, its where the application is. In a terminal i would navigat there and to the java -jar ... to launch
[11:20] <ikonia> kieko: xterm -e $path/to/java (where java is) -$java_options (the options for java) $-path_to_jar (path to where the jarfiles are)
[11:21] <ikonia> kieko you need to use absoloute paths
[11:22] <kieko> where the hell is java :/
[11:22] <ikonia> kieko: normally /usr/bin
[11:22] <kieko> k, thx
[11:22] <Chaotic_Descent> ... huh... no AMP channels... how odd.
[11:22] <Saga> Does anybody here know how to start GUI for Mobloquer?
[11:23] <t3mper> bazhang, why there?
[11:23] <bazhang> t3mper, that is for offtopic things; blog posts are offtopic here.
[11:23] <t3mper> ah, ok
[11:23] <kieko> ikonia, so: xterm -e /usr/bin/java /home/livingdaylight/apps java -jar GoGrinder.jar <---- ???
[11:24] <damia> quick question. im having trouble connecting to my vista ad-hoc wireless network in ubuntu 8.10 . the network shows up but it never accepts my password. it tries for a while then the password box comes up again but with the password in hex
[11:24] <ikonia> kieko NO
[11:24] <t3mper> bazhang, but it concerns my LAMP connection (or at least i think it does)
[11:24] <ikonia> kieko: I can't spell this out any clearer
[11:24] <bazhang> t3mper, then ask a question
[11:24] <damia> quick question. im having trouble connecting to my vista ad-hoc wireless network in ubuntu 8.10 . the network shows up but it never accepts my password. it tries for a while then the password box comes up again but with the password in hex
[11:25] <ikonia> kieko: /home/livingdaylight/apps where in my example did I say put that, why put java -jar when you've already put /usr/bin/java where is the path to where the GoGrinder.jar is located
[11:25] <kieko> ikonia, the path where go grinder is located is /home/livingdaylight/apps
[11:25] <ikonia> kieko: xterm -e /usr/bin/java -gar /home/livingdaylight/apps/GoGrinder.jar
[11:25] <Nimbus_2008> can anybody here help me get an edge modem working in intrepid ?
[11:25] <ikonia> kieko where in the example did I say put that path
[11:25] <ikonia> kieko: 1.) path to java
[11:26] <ikonia> kieko: 2.) java options (in your example -jar)
[11:26] <ikonia> kieko: 3.) path to application
[11:26] <t3mper> okay. I have a LAMP server. I have setup Wordpress as well. I've linked my server to be available to the net (briananthony.serveblog.net). I placed a link there to my wordpress blog. for some reason, it does not work. help?
[11:26] <kieko> ikonia, welli got the first part i.e. xterm -e path to jave (/usr/bin/java)
[11:26] <ikonia> kieko and did totally random things
[11:26] <mclure> getting the annoying message "folder contents could not be displayed" when trying to save a document in open office. how do I solve this?
[11:27] <c0re__> hi, i need a init.d script for pppd
[11:27] <t3mper> mclure, the last folder you saved to was moved or deleted. saving to another folder usually solves that.
[11:27] <mac123> hi!
[11:27] <kieko> ikonia, sorry, i followed your template as best as i could - honestly
[11:27] <mclure> t3mper: it's the first time I'm saving a document. reinstalled ubuntu yesterday
[11:28] <kieko> ikonia, now: xterm -e /usr/bin/java -gar /home/livingdaylight/apps/GoGrinder.jar is this supposed to be the correct solution i should have arrived at?
[11:28] <mac123> is it pssible to dd backup the ubuntu partition from inside itself?
[11:28] <t3mper> what's the default folder?
[11:28] <ikonia> kieko it's -jar !!!!!!!
[11:28] <kieko> ikonia, not -gar?
[11:28] <t3mper> maybe you imported your last settings and OO used those settings
[11:28] <squeakybot> Is it possible to save terminal sessions i.e. save command history, tab name etc.?
[11:28] <ikonia> kieko no
[11:28] <t3mper> bazhang,  okay. I have a LAMP server. I have setup Wordpress as well. I've linked my server to be available to the net (briananthony.serveblog.net). I placed a link there to my wordpress blog. for some reason, it does not work. help?
[11:29] <mclure> t3mper: it tries to access a folder that does not exist. perhaps I should try to reinstall openoffice with purge?
[11:29] <bazhang> t3mper, placed in which folder
[11:29] <t3mper> /var/www/wordpress
[11:29] <kieko> ikonia, i really am trying my best. Are you sure you are making this as easy as you can for  me?
[11:29] <SteveHill> Is this the correct channel to ask about start-up items in Ubuntu?
[11:29] <ikonia> kieko right - your on your own now after that comment
[11:29] <t3mper> mclure, what folder does it try to open?
[11:30] <Maveas> How is the procedure for installing a normal app? Like flashplayer for ex.?
[11:30] <Maveas> What do I do when I've downloaded install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz?
[11:30] <kieko> ikonia, didn't mean to offend. Just curious
[11:30] <Nimbus_2008> extract it
[11:30] <Maveas> Unpak it and then what? And how do I know where it is placed in the filesystem?
[11:31] <t3mper> Maveas, if you're looking for flashplayer, you're better off installing the ubuntu restricted package
[11:31] <kieko> didn't know adding a .jar file to apps menu could be this challenging
[11:31] <t3mper> bazhang, /var/www/wordpress
[11:31] <unix> anyone here can help me solving my problems on my a4tech webcam not working on kopete, but if i try to use ekiga... my webcam is working well. im using linux 8.10 entripid
[11:31] <Maveas> t3mper: which contains?
[11:31] <mclure> t3mper: getting 'error stating file: '/home/ubuntu/Documents' it clearly does not exist
[11:32] <SteveHill> I have two; one is how do I stop mythbunto (or any application) from starting automatically, and ttwo, I have both eth0 and eth1 coming up at boot,  How do I only get eth1 to ufconfig up automatically?
[11:32] <onats> hi, i have a nvidia 7600GS video card. i am not able to get correct resolutions and am unable to activate 3d... anyone know how to fix this?
[11:33] <kieko> ikonia, i was just curious whether you were trying to teach me by showing me templates i had to follow and then beating me up for not following your instructions properly; even though i did as best as i could; when knowing all the components to my question you could have just given me the command line(solution) to begin with; at least that is what i was wondering; hence i asked
[11:33] <Nimbus_2008> what ?
[11:33] <Nimbus_2008> you don't know where u have downloaded it ?
[11:33] <t3mper> mclure, try saving something, browsing to an existing folder. close oo, open it again and see if the problem still there.
[11:33] <t3mper> mclure, also, you're username is 'ubuntu'?
[11:33] <t3mper> Maveas, the package contains a lot of extras such as flash plugin etc. etc.
[11:34] <t3mper> you can find it from 'Add/Remove'
[11:34] <mclure> t3mper: when I try to save it anyway it says it needs openoffice.org-java-common. really neccessary? nope. that's not my username. but I
[11:34] <t3mper> mclure, that's weird. what's your username?
[11:35] <mclure> t3mper: I'm using eeebuntu on a eeepc 901. perhaps something wrong with that system. can be solved if I reinstall openoffice with purge?
[11:35] <t3mper> mclure, probably. is it a fresh install?
[11:35] <t3mper> like totally fresh, you did not have a separate partition for your home files?
[11:36] <mclure> t3mper: yep. btw. installing openoffice.org-java-common didn
[11:36] <mclure> t3mper: didn't change anything
[11:37] <Dusk_> i'm using ubuntu and installed xfce desktop..i want to change to slim from gdm..how can i do this? i couldn't find anything on google
[11:37] <t3mper> mclure, don't really know about an eee-pc setup. what version of ubuntu are you using?
[11:38] <mclure> t3mper: eeeubuntu. no problems at all on my other HP laptop running ubuntu
[11:38] <Mechdave> Dusk_, http://slim.berlios.de/
[11:38] <t3mper> it's been my experience that removing OO is difficult, btw.
[11:38] <eye_pee> hello overly enormous channel of people.
[11:39] <Maveas> How do I unpack a zip file with tar?
[11:40] <mclure> t3mper: thanks for the helpp anyway
[11:40] <Mechdave> Maveas, you can't
[11:40] <bullgard4> How to edit the items in the panel menubar?
[11:40] <eye_pee> use unzip for zip files
[11:40] <Mechdave> Maveas, you need to install zip
[11:40] <erUSUL> Mechdave: you use unzip not tar
[11:40] <Mechdave> erUSUL, Yep you sure do
[11:40] <erUSUL> bullgard4: rightclick on the menu bar choose edit
[11:41] <t3mper> mclure, np. sori wasn't so helpful
[11:41] <Mechdave> Maveas, you need to install unzip rather
[11:41] <Maveas> via apt-get?
[11:41] <Maveas> :)
[11:41] <Mechdave> Maveas, Yep sure do
[11:42] <Mechdave> Maveas, you also need to use sudo with apt-get if you are using the terminal
[11:42] <erUSUL> Mechdave: once unzip is installed you can right click the file and choose Extract... or Extract here
[11:43] <Maveas> Thanks guys..
[11:43] <bullgard4> erUSUL: It is 'Edit Menus'.  --  Thank you very much for your help.
[11:43] <Mechdave> Maveas, No worries mate, check back if you still have trouble :)
[11:43] <t3mper> Maveas, what'r you installing, by the way?
[11:43] <erUSUL> bullgard4: my desktop is in spanish so i try to say it in the more general way... ;P no problem
[11:44] <bullgard4> erUSUL: Gracias!
[11:44] <Maveas> Trying to install AlienArena 2008 :)
[11:44] <t3mper> ah.
[11:44] <erUSUL> bullgard4: no hay de que :)
[11:44]  * eye_pee realizes that after spending enough time in this channel, you feel a certain zen when in the openbsd channel....ponders...
[11:45] <erUSUL> Maveas: openarena is aviable as deb from repositories and from getdeb.net
[11:45] <erUSUL> !info openarena
[11:45] <Maveas> What is deb?
[11:45] <erUSUL> !deb
[11:45] <mib_mvsvci> Anyone knows any way to force an unmount?
[11:45] <Maveas> Sweet
[11:46] <t3mper> remove the usb directly :)
[11:46] <erUSUL> Maveas: the point is just install it from aplications>Add/Remove
[11:46] <mib_mvsvci> Its not a usb
[11:46] <Mechdave> Maveas, you use apt-get to install the debs
[11:46] <Maveas> But I want to learn how to use the terminal and commands :D
[11:47] <Mechdave> Maveas, That is ok, give me a sec to get some reference material for you
[11:47] <erUSUL> !software | Maveas
[11:47] <Maveas> I dont understand how linux just install everything by it self ..
[11:47] <t3mper> Maveas, to install open arena, type in a terminal >> sudo apt-get install openarena
[11:47] <Maveas> And where it goes..
[11:47] <Mechdave> Maveas,  That command page -->https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/basic-commands/C/  I recommend you bookmark this page and refer to it often
[11:47] <Maveas> Thanks for the link
[11:48] <Mechdave> Maveas,  Another more comprehensive list of commands id here --> http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/
[11:48] <Panarchy> I've noticed on my laptop, with 8.04 (now 8.10) that when I click something on the panel, eg Firefox, it gives me a 'splash' of the icon a little below itself. I really like this feature. How do I get it back for Ubuntu 8.10?
[11:48] <c0re__> Hello. i am looking for a script to connect to internet via ppp on boot. can anyone help me with it please?
[11:48] <eye_pee> maveas> it's magic. let's just leave it at that.
[11:48] <ikonia> c0re__ you can use network manager
[11:48] <erUSUL> c0re__: i think you can automate that via interfaces file... "man interfaces"
[11:49] <Mechdave> Maveas, That will get you started and along the way, please remember that  it takes time as well, I have been playing with Linux for 10 years and I still am learning every day
[11:49] <Maveas> Thank you so much :-)
[11:49] <Administrator_> linux lacks of standard that's why you are learning everyday
[11:50] <eye_pee> lol
[11:50] <Chaotic_Descent> Hey, I'm trying to install XAMPP under Ubuntu
[11:50] <Mechdave> Maveas, No problem, always happy to help
[11:50] <Administrator_> you dont learn new things, you just learn different ways to do same things
[11:50] <Mechdave> Administrator_, why do you say that?
[11:50] <erUSUL> c0re__: something like iface ppp0 inet ppp
[11:50] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: why not just install mysql/apache/php ?
[11:50] <Chaotic_Descent> and the instructions say to type the command "su". ... it doesn't like any of my passwords. normally I use my own password for stuff like "sudo".
[11:50] <erUSUL> c0re__: provider myprovider
[11:50] <Administrator_> i say what i think, that's why
[11:51] <erUSUL> c0re__: something like iface ppp0 inet ppp <newline> provider myprovider in the file /etc/network/interfaces
[11:51] <Panarchy> Hello! I've got a question about fixing a functionality: as II've noticed that on my laptop, with 8.04 (now 8.10) that when I click something on the panel, eg Firefox, it gives me a 'splash' of the icon a little below itself. I really like this feature. How do I get it back for Ubuntu 8.10?
[11:51] <erUSUL> c0re__: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html
[11:51] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: I don't know... I can't handle really complicated things... it took me many attempts over the years to even get an AMP package up and running...
[11:51] <erUSUL> Chaotic_Descent: use sudo instead of su
[11:52] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: install the package php5, apache2, and mysql-server your done
[11:52] <Chaotic_Descent> erUSUL: ... oh. thanks.
[11:52] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: much eaier than anything else
[11:52] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: it will take you 30 seconds to install those 3 packages
[11:52] <Mechdave> Administrator_, I recommend you read this -->http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/LSB
[11:52] <erUSUL> Chaotic_Descent: do what ikonia says if a lamp server is what you are setting up
[11:52] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: oh... easier than trying to install XAMPP? I mean... I'm also worried about setting them up after they're installed.
[11:52] <erUSUL> !lamp
[11:53] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent MUCH easlier
[11:53] <Panarchy> double Ps
[11:53] <Panarchy> LAPP
[11:53] <Panarchy> LAMPP
[11:53] <Panarchy> now known as XAMPP for Linux
[11:53] <ikonia> Panarchy: no
[11:53] <ikonia> Panarchy: LAMP
[11:53] <ikonia> Panarchy: no
[11:54] <ikonia> Panarchy: they are different products, check the URL that erUSUL posted
[11:54] <Panarchy> yes: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html
[11:54] <Panarchy> oh, different products?
[11:54] <Yuretsz> How can I add a string to the beginning of file? Just like echo 'string' >> file.txt , but to the beginning
[11:54] <Panarchy> ok then
[11:54] <ikonia> Panarchy different techniques
[11:54] <Panarchy> Hello! I've got a question about fixing a functionality: as II've noticed that on my laptop, with 8.04 (now 8.10) that when I click something on the panel, eg Firefox, it gives me a 'splash' of the icon a little below itself. I really like this feature. How do I get it back for Ubuntu 8.10?
[11:55] <Chaotic_Descent> It's going to take me a lot longer than 30 seconds.
[11:55] <fde> Panarchy: you need to turn the desktop effects back on as its a default feature of that
[11:55] <Maveas> i cant find dep with apt-get install
[11:55] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server php5
[11:55] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: done
[11:55] <Maveas> What is the module/app called?
[11:56] <Mechdave> Maveas, you won't
[11:56] <Maveas> Ah, Ubuntu got it from start? :P
[11:56] <Chaotic_Descent> Sorry, I'm just not very proficient.
[11:56] <fde> Panarchy: right click desktop > change desktop wallpaper > visual effects tab... set to at least "normal"
[11:56] <Nimbus_2008> hello, any modem expert here ? :)
[11:56] <Panarchy> fde:
[11:56] <Panarchy> Thanks
[11:57] <Chaotic_Descent> crap. I think my primary partition is getting too small.
[11:57] <Panarchy> How do I boot into (before creating the iso) the liveCD user?
[11:57] <Maveas> Hmm, I've searched "OpenArena" but isn't that the old version? There is a AlienArena 2008 today?
[11:57] <ikonia> Panarchy you can't you need to boot a livecd to use the livecd user
[11:58] <Mechdave> Maveas, a deb is what the format of the package is called.. eg a program called xyz packaged in deb format would be called xyz.deb
[11:58] <Panarchy> then how do I customise the settings I need before making an ISO (making a custom build of Ubuntu)
[11:58] <fde> Maveas: alien and open arena are two very different projects... alien arena doesn't release the code for the maps etc, open arena does
[11:58] <eye_pee> Yuretsz> maybe "echo 'string'>file2.txt ; cat file.txt>>file2.txt ; mv file2.txt file.txt"   totally butchered way to do it, but it'd work.
[11:58] <Panarchy> Maveas: deb stands for Debian, which is built on linux and is what ubuntu is built on
[11:59] <Maveas> Ok. Is OpenArena as good and up2date as AlienArena?
[11:59] <fde> Maveas: sure
[11:59] <erUSUL> Maveas: AlienArena is not the same game as OpenArena
[11:59] <Finnish> How do I find out what dvd-player is in my laptop?
[12:00] <eye_pee> read the label. :-p
[12:00] <Panarchy> How do I customise the settings of the Live Session User, before creation of ISO?
[12:00] <erUSUL> Finnish: by default totem but you can install vlc; xine-ui mplayer etc
[12:00] <Mechdave> Finnish, lspci in a terminal will sometimes tell you
[12:00] <Yuretsz> eye_pee: I think. I'll use your way but. That's totally mess :) So simple operation
[12:00] <Panarchy> The most I've been able to do so far is the wallpaper and the desktop icons
[12:00] <Finnish> lspci doesn't tell me that
[12:00] <Mechdave> Finnish, Do you mean hardware or the software
[12:01] <Finnish> hardware
[12:01] <Mechdave> Finnish, lspci in a terminal will sometimes tell you
[12:01] <erUSUL> Finnish: dmesg | grep -i dvd
[12:01] <eye_pee> Yuretsz> yeah, it's a horrible solution, but short of writing a script to do it, I can't think of a bash way to accomplish that. :-p
[12:01] <Panarchy> How do I customise the settings of the Live Session User, before creation of ISO?
[12:01] <Panarchy> The most I've been able to do so far is the wallpaper and the desktop icons
[12:01] <Mechdave> Finnish, or lspci -v for more info
[12:01] <Finnish> erUSUL: Thanks
[12:02] <Panarchy> What I need to do is customise what icons are on the panel, and add some (just 2) programs to WINE
[12:02] <Panarchy> How do I customise the settings of the Live Session User, before creation of ISO?
[12:02] <Panarchy> The most I've been able to do so far is the wallpaper and the desktop icons
[12:02] <Panarchy> What I need to do is customise what icons are on the panel, and add some (just 2) programs to WINE
[12:02] <fde> Panarchy: stop repeating yourself! can't you just do that stuff after install?
[12:02] <erUSUL> Mechdave: lspci will not tell you the dvd drive is not attached to the pci bus is attached to the PATA, SATA, USB or SCSI  buses
[12:02] <Panarchy> fde: No, sorry, it has to be done before creation of ISO
[12:02] <fde> Panarchy: why?
[12:03] <Panarchy> you see, I'm creating my own distribution built on linux
[12:03] <Panarchy> and I want it to be customised and streamlined perfectly for it's need
[12:03] <fde> Panarchy: other distros have better tools for that end
[12:04] <scopecreep> is there any reason i should use ext2? it seems a good bit faster to me
[12:05] <eye_pee> so, I wrote an abstract story/poem about operating systems. mostly related to linux/openbsd. the bsd guys don't want to read it. :-p anyone in here interested?
[12:05] <scopecreep> *shouldnt
[12:05] <Panarchy> don't use ext2
[12:05] <Chaotic_Descent> what command shows you free space? dh or something?
[12:05] <SlimeyPete> Chaotic_Descent: df -h
[12:05] <Panarchy> sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:05] <erUSUL> Yuretsz: echo "String" | cat - file.txt
[12:05] <Mechdave> !off-topic > eye_pee
[12:05] <Maveas> Anyways, I'm trying both OpenArena and AlienArena. How do I install AlienArena? Is there a script which does it all for me?
[12:06] <Mechdave> Oops that didn't work LOL
[12:06] <Chaotic_Descent> thanks. I gotta write it down this time.
[12:06] <Mechdave> Oo it did...
[12:06] <erUSUL> Yuretsz: once you verified autput save it → echo "String" | cat - file.txt > newfile.txt
[12:07] <Panarchy> How do I customise the settings of the Live Session User, before creation of ISO? The most I've been able to do so far is the wallpaper and the desktop icons. What I need to do is customise what icons are on the panel, and add some (just 2) programs to WINE
[12:07] <erUSUL> scopecreep: ext3 is journaled → more resilient to power outages and the like
[12:07] <nillerz> Hello
[12:07] <Bear-Lt> Hello!
[12:07] <nillerz> Can anyone help me get my mic working?
[12:07] <erUSUL> !repeat | Panarchy
[12:08] <scopecreep> erUSUL, i have a ups though, im not worried about that at all
[12:08] <nillerz> I have trouble since it won't record at all. It's as though it doesn't exist
[12:08] <Bear-Lt> Could someone help me about the network issue I have on Ubuntu 8.04?
[12:08] <fde> Panarchy: here http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-linux-mint-livecd-with-remastersys  but note its not part of Ubuntu, so don't ask here for assistance with it.
[12:08] <lorenzosu> How can I do an exact search with the default find function in Firefox 3.0 (i.e. when I press CTRL+F)?
[12:08] <Chaotic_Descent> ... uhm... is there any GUI for installing PHP, MySQL, and Apache? I don't see anything listed under my Applications pulldown menu...
[12:08] <Mechdave> Bear-Lt, Just ask dude
[12:08] <nillerz> Chaotic_Descent: LAMP
[12:08] <Chaotic_Descent> isn't there a GUI for XAMPP?
[12:08] <Panarchy> sorry, last paste, hope someone can help me out
[12:09] <Wargasm> does photoshop work in WINE?
[12:09] <Panarchy> How do I customise the settings of the Live Session User, before creation of ISO?
[12:09] <nillerz> or XAMPP
[12:09] <Panarchy> The most I've been able to do so far is change the wallpaper and the desktop icons.
[12:09] <Panarchy> What I need to do is customise which icons appear on the panel, and add some (just 2) programs to WINE.
[12:09] <scopecreep> is journaling the only difference though?
[12:09] <FloodBot1> Panarchy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:09] <Panarchy> Wargasm
[12:09] <uffo> with last wifi problem with ndiswrapper test i just reinstalled ubuntu, for me it is alot easyer. Now i want know what is wrong with integrated driver that my wifi has poor quality, do not blame router because others has signal quality good even from other floor.?
[12:09] <Panarchy> yeah, pretty sure so
[12:09] <Chaotic_Descent> ... but they told me it was easier to install the parts separately instead of installing XAMPP.
[12:09] <fde> Panarchy: STOP repeating yourself...
[12:09] <Panarchy> also GIMP is the alternative to photoshop
[12:10] <Wargasm> I've been using GIMP, but I like photoshop
[12:10] <scopecreep> Wargasm, check out crossover, it runs photoshop
[12:10]  * Chaotic_Descent gets a sick feeling in his stomach.
[12:10] <Wargasm> ah, thanks for the tip scopecreep
[12:10] <Yuretsz> erUSUL: Yeah, thats looks simpler
[12:10] <scopecreep> i dont have the newest version though
[12:10] <scopecreep> im poor ;]
[12:10] <fde> Wargasm: yes, photoshop works in wine... google invested quite a lot to ensure that
[12:11] <Wargasm> thanks for the info fde
[12:11] <fde> Wargasm: should be no reason to have crossover
[12:11] <nillerz> Anyone have any idea on the whole microphone not working?
[12:11] <nillerz> Is there a quick fix?
[12:11] <lorenzosu> How can I do an exact search with the default find function in Firefox 3.0 (i.e. when I press CTRL+F)?
[12:11] <Wargasm> i'll use WINE if possible, fde.
[12:11] <nillerz> A simple line in the command prompt that makes it work?
[12:12] <Bear-Lt> I have an Acer Aspire One (A110L) laptop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne says, that my wired network should work out of the box, but it doesn't. I have to use static IP adress. When I enter the parameters I can't ping the main PC (I get Destination Host Unreachable), which shares the network. Parameters are correct. Used GUI version of configuration, and via terminal. Always the same. Any suggestions?
[12:13] <Chaotic_Descent> why was I told it would be not only easier to install but to set up Apache, MySQL, and PHP separately, rather than through XAMPP? Is this universally easier, or just easier for certain people who can get around without GUIs?
[12:13] <Bear-Lt> (using same parameters, same cable another PC works with network just great)
[12:13] <uffo> how to install multiple packages at one click? i like offline installing but every time i reinstall ubuntu i must install packages click by click
[12:13] <lorenzosu> Bear-Lt, This may be silly question.. but have you already tested that IP with another machine?
[12:14] <Bear-Lt> I have tested that IP with anoter machine
[12:14] <lorenzosu> Bear-Lt, Sorry was typing as you were giving that info...
[12:14] <lorenzosu> Bear-Lt, Not suer.. Here at work I use dynamic IP and proxy on cabled and works fine.
[12:14] <Bear-Lt> :) that's not a problem.
[12:15] <Bear-Lt> I can't use dynamic IP
[12:15] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: ?
[12:15] <Bear-Lt> on the main PC there are strict firewall parameters. I can't modify them, I'm not root.
[12:15] <huff3r> Brined and smoked... for turkey day
[12:15] <lorenzosu> Bear-Lt, I know what you mean... I have to use a fixed IP on the machine I'm typing from now. But it's a Windows box
[12:16] <uffo> dynamic ip do not help multiple package install
[12:16] <Chaotic_Descent> .... T_T
[12:17] <Chaotic_Descent> how do you find out what to do with apps after they
[12:17] <Chaotic_Descent> how do you find out what to do with apps after they're installed? I tried "man php5" and it doesn't exist so... like... ... I'm totally lost.
[12:17] <Bear-Lt> any other suggestions about my network issue?
[12:18] <|Osiris> hi
[12:19] <Panarchy> Hello
[12:19] <Panarchy> How do I customise the settings of the Live Session User, before creation of ISO? (using remastersys)
[12:19] <Panarchy> The most I've been able to do so far is change the wallpaper, programs installed & desktop icons.
[12:19] <Panarchy> What I need to do is customise which icons appear on the panel, and add some (just 2) programs to WINE.
[12:19] <Panarchy> Please tell me how to do these two things.
[12:19] <FloodBot1> Panarchy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:19] <Panarchy> Thanks in advance,
[12:19] <egberto> hi
[12:19] <Chaotic_Descent> I... try. but... there was nothing in any Linux beginner tutorials about where to find info on applications you've installed.
[12:20] <Panarchy> http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=391932
[12:20] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, can you be a little more specific?
[12:20] <lorenzosu> Bear-Lt, I know what you mean... I have to use a fixed IP on the machine I'm typing from now. But it's a Windows box
[12:20] <|Osiris> can someone help me with cronjobs?
[12:20] <Chaotic_Descent> Mechdave: PHP5, MySQL, Apache. I was told to install it instead of XAMPP. I have no GUI. I have no idea how to set them up.
[12:20] <|Osiris> I have some custom scripts in the /etc/cron.daily but they are nog executed
[12:20] <lorenzosu> How can I do an exact match with the default find function in Firefox 3.0 (i.e. when I press CTRL+F)?
[12:21] <Chaotic_Descent> Mechdave: I was told it would be easier to set up than XAMPP. not just easier to install.
[12:21] <Panarchy> Chaotic_Descent
[12:21] <Panarchy> XAMPP will be one of the most easy things to install on ubuntu
[12:22] <Panarchy> there are only two things that are easier to install than XAMPP on Ubuntu
[12:22] <Panarchy> that is;
[12:22] <Panarchy> apt-get
[12:22] <Panarchy> and
[12:22] <FloodBot1> Panarchy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:22] <Panarchy> .deb files
[12:22] <Chaotic_Descent> great. I guess they were playing a trick on me then. :(
[12:22] <jrib> !lamp > Chaotic_Descent
[12:22] <Chaotic_Descent> never even heard of .deb files.
[12:22] <jrib> Chaotic_Descent: they are setup after you install, nothing else to be done.  see ubottu
[12:23] <Panarchy> deb stands for debian
[12:23] <Panarchy> it's the default installer thing for ubuntu
[12:23] <Panarchy> it's like the exe or msi from windows, but for ubuntu
[12:23] <fde> Panarchy: stop with the misinformation
[12:23] <Panarchy> apt uses them, I think
[12:23] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, wow, ok you need to go to apache.org and read up on the apache server especially with php5 then you need to read up on mysql http://www.mysql.com
[12:23] <Panarchy> fde, I know it was an over-simplification
[12:24] <Chaotic_Descent> should I uninstall PHP, MySQL, and Apache before I install XAMPP, or it's all the same?
[12:24] <uffo> how to install multiple packages at one click? i like offline installing but every time i reinstall ubuntu i must install packages click by click.
[12:24] <fde> !clone > uffo
[12:24] <jrib> Chaotic_Descent: it's recommended that you install LAMP from the repositories
[12:24] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, I have set up a LAMP server before, it takes a lot of reading and a lot of time to understand it and make it reasonably secure
[12:24] <Panarchy> I think you can put them on many lines
[12:24] <Chaotic_Descent> Mechdave: what? wouldn't that be kind of disjointed reading about those things independently?
[12:25] <fde> uffo: keep the resulting file on google docs or something  :)
[12:25] <Panarchy> by that I mean
[12:25] <Panarchy> sudo apt-get install irss sudo apt-get install xchat
[12:25] <mikethk> hi there. Im want to use chatzilla instead of xchat for irc. can someone gives me the information i need to use? I tried what i can find out
[12:25] <uffo> fde: please simple GUI way
[12:25] <Chaotic_Descent> I searched for AMP in the synaptic package manager and found nothing.
[12:25] <fde> Panarchy: no... just sudo apt-get install this that and something else
[12:25] <Panarchy> yeah, what fde said
[12:25] <Panarchy> lol
[12:25] <fde> uffo: there is no simple gui method...
[12:25] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, No not really, you will tie it all together once you start running your applications on your server, eg. like wordpress for example
[12:26] <fde> uffo: its two commands, even if there was a gui method, it'd be more difficult
[12:26] <Panarchy> anyways, if anyone has any ideas on how I can fix my distro, please don't hesitate to post
[12:26] <Panarchy> http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=391932
[12:26] <Panarchy> (oops wrong link)
[12:26] <Panarchy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6241304
[12:26] <Panarchy> Thanks in advance,
[12:26] <Panarchy> Panarchy
[12:27]  * Panarchy thinks it's time for bed
[12:27] <uffo> fde: i hope later it will be fixed in 9.04, ubuntu must be same simple as windows or maybe later ReactOS is more simple
[12:27] <Panarchy> uffo
[12:27] <Panarchy> do you understand the versioning schema of ubuntu?
[12:27] <fde> uffo: huh? Windows doesn't let you remember additional software either  :/
[12:27] <ikonia> Panarchy: are you sure you posted teh right forum url?
[12:28] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, Also PHP5 and Apache are sort of tied together, the documentation for both is on http://www.apache.org
[12:28] <Chaotic_Descent> Mechdave: well ... I tried to read about SQL... many times over the years... and it was hard to put into practice... because it didn't really do anything. ... ... I don't know. maybe people in depression can't learn to make databases.
[12:28] <mikethk> can someone give me this URL for this channel?
[12:28] <ikonia> mikethk there isn't one
[12:28] <ikonia> mikethk: it's an irc channel
[12:28] <Wargasm> how do i run programs in WINE?
[12:28] <ikonia> !wine > Wargasm
[12:28] <Panarchy> ikonia: yes
[12:28] <fde> Wargasm: wine whatever.exe
[12:29] <lorenzosu> How can I do an exact match with the default find function in Firefox 3.0 (i.e. when I press CTRL+F)?
[12:29] <Wargasm> thank you, fde
[12:29] <ikonia> Panarchy thats posted by a guy in brazil and your in austrailia
[12:29] <ikonia> Panarchy: the thread about learning python ?
[12:29] <adac> Hmm somehow my borders of the windows have dissapeared... I cannot make a window bigger or smaller anymor and I cannort close it. Any ideas what is wrong?
[12:29] <uffo> fde: is that works if i try to make mplayer portable with extracting deb files and keeping file structure, maybe there is some launcher script to link dependencies from other locations?
[12:29] <mikethk> ikonia, I want to use chatzilla instead of xchat how to connect to this channel?
[12:29] <Panarchy> what
[12:29] <ikonia> Panarchy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=624130
[12:29] <ikonia> Panarchy: did I copy it wrong
[12:29] <Panarchy> thread about learning python?
[12:29] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, I went to university to learn about SQL and it still doesn't make too much sense, although if you have a large database you can get information out of it really well if you know how to write SQl queries
[12:29] <Panarchy> no, this
[12:29] <Panarchy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6241304
[12:29] <ikonia> mikethk /server irc.freenode.net channel #ubuntu
[12:29] <fde> uffo: that's what I just told you how to do  :/
[12:29] <Panarchy> ah
[12:29] <ikonia> Panarchy: missed off the 4 - sorry
[12:30] <Panarchy> 4 must've got deleted somehow
[12:30] <Panarchy> lol
[12:30] <Chaotic_Descent> there's no LAMP in Synaptic Package Manager... so rather than try and drive myself crazy looking for it, I'm just going to download and install XAMPP... I can't handle all these complications with people telling me to use stuff without giving me a reason why I should all of a sudden change what I was doing before.
[12:30] <sinuc> which variable is that thats perl checking for its .pm files there?
[12:30] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent php5/apache2/mysql-server thats just the packages you need
[12:30] <fde> uffo: well, if I am understanding that ramble well enough
[12:30] <Panarchy> #perl
[12:30] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, What were you doing before?
[12:30]  * Panarchy says Good Night (before midnight!)
[12:30] <Tazsta-LN> gday all just woundering if anyone can help me get a realtek RTL-8185 wireless card working
[12:30] <Chaotic_Descent> Mechdave: XAMPP
[12:30] <nachi_> hey. i got a user cook1 and i want to put a bash script into /bin so the user can execute it from anywhere on the shell, i know its unsafe, so how can i restrict the script to run only for that user?
[12:30]  * Panarchy leaves
[12:30] <Panarchy> exit
[12:31] <uffo> fde: but is there some deb package editor to merge all deb packages in one giant .deb
[12:31] <Chaotic_Descent> Neither XAMPP or LAMP are in the package manger.
[12:31] <nachi_> put it on /user/sbin?
[12:31] <Chaotic_Descent> manager. god damn.
[12:31] <dr_willis> nachi_,  why not make a bin directory in cook1's home dir..
[12:31] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent php5/apache2/mysql-server - install those 3 packages
[12:31] <dr_willis> nachi_,  thats the normal way to add a script to a users path/
[12:31] <fde> uffo: no... look up how to create a meta-package though... or just do what I said  :/
[12:31] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: I even gave you the exact command line to do uit
[12:31] <jrib> Chaotic_Descent: you are lost because you didn't read the link I had ubottu give you
[12:31] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: I did.
[12:31] <mikethk_> ikonia: im using it now writing to you :D thx.
[12:31] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, If that is what you know and you are under time pressures, by all means stick with it :)
[12:31] <fde> uffo: creating the .deb would be more difficult than what I suggested to you
[12:31] <nachi_> .. /bin/userpath ?
[12:31] <ikonia> mikethk_: no problem
[12:31] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: and what's the problem ?
[12:31] <nachi_> anyone can execute it no?
[12:32] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: I don't know what to do after installing them. I can't find where they went or how to set them up.
[12:32] <dr_willis> nachi_,  bash basics and PATHbasics..  the directory /home/USERNAME/bin if seen is added to the users default PATH.
[12:32] <adac> Can somebody tell me how to restor the window decoration? Smaller, greater and close...those window decorations have dissapeared here
[12:32] <adac> *restore
[12:32] <dr_willis> nachi_,  that will do exactly what you are wanting.. keep your own commands in  the users  own 'bin' directory
[12:32]  * fde wonders why n00bs argue with experienced users like they know better?
[12:32] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, http://lamphowto.com/
[12:33] <dr_willis> fde,  ive noticed  the less people know on a topic the more they inssist their oponion matters.. :) in more then just pc's
[12:33] <Chaotic_Descent> Mechdave: it's not time pressure. it's stress pressure. trying to make sense out of too many things. switching gears constantly.
[12:33] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_debian_lamp_server
[12:33] <Rekreativc> how do I find out what charecter table Im using in emacs?
[12:33] <uffo> fde: but i might accept that harder way if i can merge all deb files in one because i must often reinstall ubuntu and if i install it to other then it would be simple to install with one deb pack
[12:33] <nachi_> yeah so other users cannot execute it
[12:33] <fde> dr_willis: heh... true... only been using Debian based for about 12 years... what do I know?  :S
[12:34] <dr_willis> nachi_,  my own user, has proberly 400+ scripts in their bin directory. :)
[12:34] <sunrise987> what is a 802.11 header?
[12:34] <fde> uffo: you can't, you'd just make a .deb that depends everything else... and you'd still need to use half of my method to get the list of packages you want added
[12:34] <Tyrath> sunrise987: 802.11 sounds like WiFi
[12:34] <nachi_> so just put it on /bin ?
[12:34] <tomahowk_> goodafternoon
[12:34] <dr_willis> nachi_,  NO.. as i said  /home/USERNAME/bin
[12:34] <Chaotic_Descent> I've only been told XAMPP is easy. is LAMP as easy?
[12:34] <dr_willis> nachi_,  each user can have their own bin directory
[12:35] <tomahowk_> i have problems sharing files from my Xubuntu pc, to my windows Vista
[12:35] <nachi_> how ? i got to my user i dont see there
[12:35] <B|ackPanther> How can i obtain the installation path of firefox ?
[12:35] <dr_willis> nachi_,  or you could put it in some other directory and alter the .bashrc or .bashprofile to set the proper PATH variable.
[12:35] <uffo> fde: ok i just install them with my easyest way like i always do with installing one by one until mplayer has all dependencies ok
[12:35] <dr_willis> nachi_, ... err... make the directory? :) logical eh?
[12:35] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, Everything is hard at first, it just gets easier with knowledge ;)
[12:35] <AUTOEXEC> after installing apache2, mysql and php _separately_, i screwed my apache2 and when nothing helped installed xampp. however now xampp will not startup neither proftpd nor mysql (saying correctly that both are already running). i'm a newbie: should i rather a) implement mysql & proftpd to xampp b) remove proftpd & mysql & reinstall xampp or even c) reinstall ubuntu and manually install apache2, mysql and php? i found this to be easy as lo
[12:35] <AUTOEXEC> ig.
[12:35] <fde> Chaotic_Descent: XAMPP sounds like its X-based LAMP... there is an apache configuration tool that would make it easier, but just dive in if you know what you're doing
[12:36] <fde> !clone > uffo
[12:36] <Chaotic_Descent> XAMPP is multiplatform.
[12:36] <fde> uffo: or just use the easy method  :/
[12:36] <AUTOEXEC> how do i start this xampp config tool=
[12:36] <AUTOEXEC> ?
[12:36] <fde> uffo: selecting everything individually in synaptic or wherever is NOT the easiest way... but a LONG shot
[12:36] <c0re__> anyone know BASH scripting here?
[12:36] <Tyrath> I have a problem with wireless. I've configured wireless to start on boot so I don't have to fire up the GUI in order to use wireless but as a result I can't connect to the internet wired and when I remove the cable I can't connect to wireless unless I reboot. could someone give me a fix to this?
[12:36] <c0re__> !bash
[12:36] <tomahowk_> join #Xubuntu
[12:36] <tomahowk_> owh...
[12:36] <dr_willis> !abs | c0re_
[12:37] <fde> s/but/by/
[12:37] <enzotib> c0re__, what is your problem?
[12:37] <c0re__> dr_willis,  i already create an init.d script...
[12:37] <AUTOEXEC>  MySQL is accessible by the network - what does this exactly mean?
[12:37] <c0re__> enzotib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/76374/
[12:38] <Tyrath> anyone?
[12:38] <B|ackPanther> Is there a better command of locating a file other than "locate" .I want to find the installation path of mozilla .
[12:38] <dr_willis> B|ackPanther,  try 'which mozilla' ? perhaps
[12:38] <fde> B|ackPanther: you can just dpkg -L <package> to see where its files went
[12:38] <Tyrath> AUTOEXEC: that you can access your database via MySQL?
[12:38] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, There is a web based tool for LAMP too... called myphpadmin -->http://www.phpmyadmin.net/
[12:39] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: did you install the 3 packages I suggested ?
[12:39] <uffo> fde: i do not even understand this way what you offer, i only can use GUI ways. i have folder mplayer where is all debs and i click then i install and install by clicking debs, i use wheather synaptic only for uninstall
[12:39] <Tyrath> dr_willis: would you know how to fix my wireless problem?
[12:39] <c0re__> enzotib, you there? can i pm you?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:39] <mohsin_> Nvidia dual head with ubuntu 8.10: http://pastebin.com/mc7161a1
[12:39] <dr_willis> Tyrath,  not a clue. i rarely use wireless
[12:39] <Chaotic_Descent> I think maybe... I just can't handle this right now. I don't know if that's... for the foreseeable future or just because I need to go to bed...
[12:39] <Tyrath> dr_willis: do you use wired?
[12:40] <C0p3rn1c> hi ActionParsnip,wb :)
[12:40] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, for the database side of things, you still need to get the PHP and Apache going tho
[12:40] <Tyrath> dr_willis: actually don't answer that
[12:40] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: did you install the 3 packages I suggested ?
[12:40] <dr_willis> Tyrath,  :) if im not using wireless... what else is there.. :P
[12:40] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: jesus christ I told you I did!
[12:40] <enzotib> c0re__, ok, but i don't know if i can help you
[12:40] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: I missed that,
[12:40] <dr_willis> Tyrath,  8.10 for the first time actually has wireless working for me on my 2 laptops
[12:40] <Tyrath> dr_willis: i tried to sneak in a don't answer that, not sure if you got it :P i realised my mistake
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> wifi out of the box here :D
[12:40] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: ok, so if you have installed the 3 packages, you should now have "lamp" working, what exactly is the issue ?
[12:40] <Tyrath> dr_willis: that's awesome
[12:40] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, I understand you are getting frustrated, but please mind your language
[12:40] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: I have no idea where anything is.
[12:41] <fde> uffo: dpkg --get-selections fetches a list of packages currently installed, this is then redirected at a file.... it then uses dpkg --set-selections ... and takes the file as an argument ... the last part then applies these selections
[12:41] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent such as, ? what are you expecting ?
[12:41] <Tyrath> dr_willis: what does your /etc/network/interface file read?
[12:41] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: I'm expecting something at least as easy as XAMPP. -_-;
[12:41] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent what are you looking for ?
[12:41] <fde> !cloning > uffo
[12:41] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: what don't you know where "it" is  ?
[12:41] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, Did you have a look at the sites I suggested?
[12:41] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: a button. a starting point. anything.
[12:41] <fde> uffo: same result, but maybe that makes more sense?
[12:41] <Tyrath> dr_willis: i'm trying to work out why if i'm happily running on wireless, if i attach a wire, i loose connection
[12:42] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent a button ???? you have not wrote an application yet
[12:42] <Tyrath> dr_willis: then if I detach from the wire i don't get my wireless connection back :/
[12:42] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: lamp is "apache/mysql/php" running together, you have that, you now need to install/write a website
[12:42] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: right then. this was a trick then. it's not easier to set up than XAMPP.
[12:42] <uffo> fde: how do i use that thing you sent
[12:42] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent of course it is, 30 seconds to setup
[12:42] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: and it's running now
[12:42] <dr_willis> Tyrath,   just 2 lines..   auto lo
[12:42] <dr_willis>                  iface lo inet loopback
[12:42] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: and it's on a platform we can support
[12:43] <Tyrath> dr_willis: gah. i was afraid you'd say that. thanks anyhow
[12:43] <fde> uffo: you just type in in Applications > Accessories > Terminal ...
[12:43] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, what is your eventual aim to do with a LAMP server?
[12:43] <dr_willis> Tyrath,  thats because its the network manager tool/sustem, that handles it.. you are bypassing network manager totally it seems
[12:43] <Tyrath> dr_willis: i'm trying but failing :/
[12:43] <KingOfDos> is there some general known problem with the nl.archive.ubuntu.com repository?
[12:43] <uffo> fde: i pasted all that text in terminal but nothing
[12:43] <Tyrath> dr_willis: i'm trying to loose my dependency on the GUI
[12:43] <KingOfDos> I'd get a 403 Forbidden while doing a do-release-update
[12:43] <fde> uffo: not all of it... ugh
[12:44] <fde> uffo: did you actually read what the factoid said?
[12:44] <Chaotic_Descent> Mechdave: I wanted to learn databases... although my biggest goal seems to have been tackled by someone else already. I guess I can only do other small projects or maybe learn to contribute to his... it's a Transformers (those robot toys) database.
[12:44] <Tyrath> dr_willis: i still will need the GUI for most graphical things, just shouldn't need it for basic things like wireless
[12:44] <KingOfDos> When i'd dig the nl.archive.ubuntu.com it seems that it's resolving to ubuntuarchive.bit.nl, and there i'd get the error.
[12:44] <uffo> fde: i am GUI user of windows and reactos so i can only know GUI
[12:44] <Tyrath> does anyone run straight off console mode and use wireless?
[12:44] <fde> uffo: its not rocket science, you just refuse to do things the quick way
[12:44] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent you can learn databases, you have an emtpry database instance up and running, ready to go
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: I can,
[12:45] <Chaotic_Descent> Mechdave: I'm sure there were other projects I wanted to do... I just don't remember... I think I wanted to learn how to format the database data into really nice output.
[12:45] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: so when you boot does your comp automatically connect through wireless? or do you need to fire up te GUI?
[12:45] <uffo> fde: then make me text that i can just paste to terminal
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: I manually edit /etc/network/interfaces so it is configured automatically
[12:45] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: you've got a great environment %100 ready to go for that
[12:45] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: I did the same thing, but as a result I can't use wired internet
[12:45] <fde> uffo: just read the factoid... it says exactly what to copy and paste
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: so all i have to do is sudo ifup ath0 and i have connectivity
[12:46] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: you've got a lamp install ready and waiting for you to install and learn php/mysql based applications
[12:46] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: doesn't there need to be user accounts set up and stuff? which isn't ... I mean... where do I plug stuff in?
[12:46] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: it's a great tool sat ready to go
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: do you have lines in the file for the wired connection as well?
[12:46] <uffo> fde: you mean that aptitude --disable-columns --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages
[12:46] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent already done
[12:46] <syslogd> Hi
[12:46] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: web root is /var/www
[12:46] <syslogd> How do I install ntfsck on Ubuntu?
[12:46] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: really? where do I put my MySQL commands?
[12:46] <syslogd> ntfsprogs is already installed.
[12:46] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: I do, and it works, only when I detach a wire the comp doesn't reconnect through wireless
[12:46] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: type mysql and your in the client shell
[12:46] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, Ok then you need to learn some programming in PHP so you can format the output nicely and you need to use myphpAdmin to put the data into the database. This means yo need some tutorials on writing PHP and tutorials on MySQL
[12:47] <KingOfDos> Ah, it seems that the be.archive.ubuntu.com is working nice. Is here someone that manages the repositorys?
[12:47] <ikonia> !lamp > Chaotic_Descent
[12:47] <fde> uffo: that goes on the first machine... yes... then you need to get the resulting my-packages file to the other machine, or the new install ... I suggest via docs.google.com
[12:47] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: read the docu ubottu's just sent you for an overview
[12:47] <fde> uffo: then you can copy and paste the latter part on the new Ubuntu install
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: do you restart networking when you attatc the cable
[12:47] <KingOfDos> And that one that manages the repository, please call BIT that there host is down
[12:47] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: ie, off boot i get wireless. if i connect a cable i loose wireless, if i disconnect the cable i stil don't have wireless
[12:47] <Chaotic_Descent> Yes I KNOW what LAMP is! *groan*
[12:47] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: no-one said you didn't
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: ty running it from terminal, you will get intelligent outputs
[12:47] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: how do I do that?
[12:47] <syslogd> Is there a .deb for ntfsck?
[12:47] <Chaotic_Descent> I mean at least what the letters stand for.
[12:47] <uffo> fde: synaptic should include open .deb and esolve all dependencies
[12:47] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: those documents show you how to use it, which you don't know
[12:47] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: ifconfig?
[12:47] <frith> hello, I am thinking about dual booting, ubuntu 64 and 32 with a shared /home
[12:47] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: actually read the documents
[12:48] <dr_willis> !find ntfsck
[12:48] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, The reason I point you to phpMyAdmin is because it will run on your lamp server and it is reasonably simple to put a database together with
[12:48] <fde> uffo: it does... but that's not what you're trying to do... you want to have the same package sets across distros...
[12:48] <ikonia> frith: pointless unless you have a need for 2 seperate distros, but go for it
[12:48] <Chaotic_Descent> I was trying to figure out if they were the right documents for me to read.
[12:48] <fde> uffo: or rather, across installs
[12:48] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: they are
[12:48] <Tyrath> !find xrandr
[12:48] <kingriver> 有没有会说中国话的？
[12:48] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, Hang on about those documents... I shall give you a start
[12:48] <frith> ikonia, not pointless if you are comparing the two
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:48] <ikonia> frith as I said unless you have a specific reason to run the two
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: you will see messages
[12:49] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: why LAMP instead of XAMPP though?
[12:49] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: I'll try it now. If i can't reconnect after disconnect you'll know why :P
[12:49] <frith> i was more interested in if people had found issues with sharing fs's between 32/64,
[12:49] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent because xampp makes it's own internal "platform" to run which conflicts with the ubuntu packages, (or any other distro)
[12:49] <frith> some years ago i mounted an ext3 from a 32bit distro to a 64bit and it smashed the fs
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> !xampp
[12:49] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, http://www.php.net/tut.php http://devzone.zend.com/node/view/id/627 <-- for PHP
[12:49] <fde> uffo: you really shouldn't be scared of terminals though, it makes everything about a million times easier and quicker when you learn it... most GUI tools just use the command line for you...
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> !info xampp
[12:49] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: there is no need for that when the 3 packages are made by ubuntu and ready to go
[12:49] <uffo> fde: i just want install faster but my ubuntu 8.10 synaptic do not have option "open .deb file"
[12:50] <fde> uffo: gdebi does that... but for one package at a time... and it doesn't do deps
[12:50] <frith> can you make encrypted partitions from the gui installer now?
[12:51] <st3ph> ActionParsnip, my 8.10 works fine now without errors
[12:51] <ikonia> frith from the alternative cd, sure
[12:51] <fde> uffo: if you want to remember everything you've installed manually every time you install Ubuntu, that's fine... I'm telling you a quick way to get things back the way you want
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> st3ph: sweet
[12:51] <frith> or should i grab the alternative
[12:51] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, http://dev.mysql.com/tech-resources/articles/mysql_intro.html <-- to get started with MySQL
[12:51] <frith> ah
[12:51] <sunrise987> what is eth0?
[12:51] <Chaotic_Descent> Mechdave: ok... so I got half a dozen website bookmarks.
[12:51] <fde> sunrise987: the first NIC
[12:51] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: the fact that I'm here means what you said works
[12:51] <sunrise987> why there is many NICs?
[12:52] <Acedip> guys kindly look here and tell me what does the ubuntu entry mean http://pastebin.com/m49eb017e
[12:52] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: the only thing is that wired internet still doesn't work
[12:52] <uffo> fde: i mainly use gdebi for one by one install but it should load other packs too what is in same folder. i try to make feature request to synaptics to include deb open possibility
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> sunrise987: eth0 is usually an alias for your first ethernet port
[12:52] <fde> sunrise987: many network setups require multiple NICs... your router likely doesn't have just one port, does it?
[12:52] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, Cool, start reading my friend :) you will need time and patience... It took me ages to do a small blog website
[12:52] <mohsin_> i bootup i get "﻿(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!" in my Xorg.0.log, how can i fix it? where is nvidia module so i can do a mod probe
[12:52] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: additionally I was wondering if there was an aliased version of /etc/init.d/networks or will I have to alias it manually - b/c remembering that location is tough :P
[12:52] <zeno> did sudo rsync -P -v -r -t -h --ignore-existing "$1" "$2", computer crashed in mid, then redid and now the result uses double the space, why? nautilus reports correct ammount but du -hs reports double
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: ok now check logs / dmesg to see whats what. Tyrath can i see you interfaces file? you can obsure any security keys etc
[12:53] <Vinceman> how long before all the MS-applications cloned in linux are finetuned so that the MS-user won't notice the difference?
[12:53] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: over pm?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: pastebin
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> !paste | Tyrath
[12:53] <Chaotic_Descent> Mechdave: I'm sure I'll be thoroughly confused for too long to make any progress... like always.
[12:53] <Tyrath> ahhh ubuntu has a pastebin cool
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/networking /usr/bin/netwoking
[12:53] <fde> sunrise987: some high end router companies like Cisco use Linux on their routers...
[12:53] <sunrise987> fde: yes, it has two, but why do I need two?
[12:54] <fde> sunrise987: two boxes connecting to it?
[12:54] <Chaotic_Descent> I really hate tutorials that leave you absolutely clueless and confused for too long... I just can't endure.
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: any irc people can use any pastebin, its not exactly specifically for ubuntu
[12:54] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: as opposed to a simple alias? for example I aliased swkotor2 because typing in wine <file path> was a nuisance
[12:54] <fde> sunrise987: kinda hard to plug 10 or 100 network cables into one NIC
[12:54] <mohsin_> When i boot my machine, i get "﻿(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!" can anyone tell me how can i fix it? how can i locate the nvidia module and load it?
[12:55] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: I know. I usually use pastebin.ca. what i meant was i didn't realise the ubuntu site had its own pastebin
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: the symlink will put a copy in your path, makes it easier to run
[12:55] <dr_willis> mohsin_,  reinstall the nvidia drivers - would be what i would try
[12:55] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: did you symlink it?
[12:55] <sunrise987> fde: no, when I say: "iwconfig -a" I find two NICs eth0, and eth1
[12:55] <mohsin_> dr_willis: how?
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: use whatever you feel like, i use the pastebinit command to create pastebins from command line
[12:55] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, I get that way as well... It is best to take it easy and small steps, remember that you first have to learn a new language (PHP) and then learn SQL and then learn how to tie the two together, it is not a five minute job, take it easy and usually joining a forum or two often helps too.
[12:55] <dr_willis> !nvidia | mohsin_
[12:55] <fde> sunrise987: one is wired, one is wireless, probably
[12:55] <fde> sunrise987: eth1 will be the wireless
[12:56] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: now I would really like to know what you aliased that to
[12:56] <gigabytes> hello
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces
[12:56] <gigabytes> can the live cd of ubuntu 8.04 write on HFS+ partitions?
[12:57] <ikonia> gigabytes I think so
[12:57] <ikonia> gigabytes: I think hfs write support is enabled
[12:57] <gigabytes> ikonia: reliably?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> gigabytes: as long as the kernel has the module, yes
[12:57] <fde> gigabytes: apt-cache search hfs-plus
[12:57] <ikonia> well, thats a different matter
[12:57] <Chaotic_Descent> Mechdave: I just wish the tutorials were different... I just know there's a better way for me... but no one writes like that. no one gives you overviews. I don't know why that's too much to ask for. To see progress while you're learning instead of stumbling around blind smashing things together... it's just not my style.
[12:57] <mohsin_> dr_willis: i don't even have the menu called Hardware Drivers.
[12:57] <gigabytes> fde: I'm talking about the live-cd.. I don't think I can install packages on the livecd...
[12:57] <fde> gigabytes: sorry, without the -
[12:58] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent we can't help you with that, I hope you've got enough information now
[12:58] <gonzalo_> hello, maybe its a silly question, but how can i "downgrade" my kernel version.. i need to install the same kernel "kind" i have, but a different version. (i have 2.6.26 and i need 2.6.22 or 2.6.20)
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: you can also pipe text into the pastebinit app to give you a link
[12:58] <ikonia> gigabytes: you can install stuff on the livecd
[12:58] <fde> gigabytes: you can, they just won't stick around if you aren't using a USB stick
[12:58] <ikonia> gigabytes: why do you want to do that
[12:58] <ikonia> gigabytes: sorry - not you
[12:58] <fde> gigabytes: they won't be there after you reboot livecd session is all
[12:58] <gonzalo_> i want to do that the "ubuntu" way
[12:58] <ikonia> gonzalo_: why do you want to do that
[12:58] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, problem is that with these languages an overview does get rather involved due to the complexities of the language
[12:59] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: do you know how to pipe out of vim?
[12:59] <gonzalo_> ikonia, becouse i want to compile a cisco vpn client, and it doesn't work with kernel > 2.6.22
[12:59] <ikonia> gonzalo_: ubuntu packages it's kernels against the versions of the products it uses, why do you want to change that to an unsupported version
[12:59] <dr_willis> mohsin_,  could try getting to X in one of the failsafe modes, and running the  jockey-gtk
[12:59] <dr_willis>   command..  or figure out what nvidia package you need and 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'  or whatever oneis appropoate for your video card
[12:59] <ikonia> gonzalo_: areyou %100 it won't work, or it just doesn't currently work
[12:59] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: I'm in console mode and having difficulty trying to figure out how to Copy Paste, even when I execute elinks from within vim
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> gonzalo_: sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.22 (press tab here a few times)
[12:59] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, what I do is google around until I can find the simplest tutorial I can understand and then I work up from there
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: use ctrl+c to copy
[13:00] <fde> gonzalo_: I really don't recommend that, there are other VPN clients... those kernels had some exploits
[13:00] <mohsin_> dr_willis: jockey-gtk command not found
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: i dont use vim
[13:00] <fde> mohsin_: using Kubuntu?
[13:00] <dr_willis> mohsin_,  you got some erious issues then.. or you typed it wrong.
[13:00] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: that doesn't seem to work in console mode :/
[13:00] <dr_willis> or you are using kubuntu. :)
[13:00] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, remember you are learning to use PHP so if you can write Hello World to a web page using PHP I would call that a good advance for lesson one :)
[13:00] <gigabytes> fde: ok however I won't have an internet connection available, can you tell me if it is supported?
[13:00] <mohsin_> fde: dr_willis: ubuntu 8.10
[13:01] <fde> mohsin_: then ensure you typed it correctly
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: what doesnt?
[13:01] <gonzalo_> ActionParsnip, mm it doesn't do anything... maybe i doesn't have in my "packages list"
[13:01] <dr_willis> jockey-gtk  jockey-kde
[13:01] <fde> gigabytes: have you tried via NetworkManager? It handles VPN
[13:01] <gonzalo_> fde, ok, i will patch the version i have, but i need the 2.6.22 branch
[13:01] <mohsin_> fde: dr_willis: no use..
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> gonzalo_: what command did you run?
[13:01] <gigabytes> fde: what?
[13:01] <gigabytes> :P
[13:01] <fde> gonzalo_: ^^
[13:01] <Chaotic_Descent> Mechdave: well simple is one end of the extreme, but it's not actually easier for me. I get bored with simple things and want to do more. hearing how to do hello world is like reading an essay on how to use a spoon to put food in your mouth. it puts me to sleep.
[13:02] <jxander> hi there! i managed to set my laptop and external LCD to work together through aticonfig, but i want one big desktop make of a 1280x800 laptop lcd and 1680x1050 external lcd, where i can move things from one to another. is there a way? should i use mode2 instead of pairmode?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> gonzalo_: you can type a partial package name and tab complete just like in here
[13:02] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent well, you should be setup to learn in your own time now
[13:02]  * fde needs to pay more attn when using tab completion via last spoken order
[13:02] <gonzalo_> ActionParsnip, apt-get install linux-image-2.6.2 (tab tab)
[13:02] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: sure.
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> gonzalo_: did any packages appear
[13:02] <gonzalo_> ActionParsnip, no..
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> gonzalo_: try: apt-cache search 2.6.20
[13:03] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, ROFL... good one yes me too, so you need a challenge, but not too much of one...
[13:03] <mohsin_> dr_willis: fde: i copied jocket-kde and it says no restricted drivers rae in use on this system
[13:03] <fde> mohsin_: System > Administration > Hardware Drivers not there? It is part of default Ubuntu install  :/
[13:03] <cached> is there any way to detect which application is hogging up access to sound?
[13:03] <fde> mohsin_: jockey not jocket
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> gonzalo_: you can then install any of those packages useing sudo apt-get install
[13:04] <gonzalo_> ActionParsnip, there's only two packages ( linux-patch-xenomai  and iotop )
[13:04] <dr_willis> mohsin_,  you need to check the check box's and enable them then.. that will isntall them
[13:04] <mohsin_> fde: nope, its not... yup jokey...
[13:04] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, Ok well then if you can understand how to format a basic php script then it is time to move to the next chapter
[13:04] <fde> mohsin_: jockey
[13:04] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/f647b9762 - that's if I piped it into pastebinit correctly :/
[13:04] <gonzalo_> ActionParsnip, i need to add some package source to my apt sources.list ? becouse i dont have other kernels..
[13:04] <hischild> Hello. When i watch a video, every few minutes the video will stutter or just freeze.
[13:04] <mohsin_> dr_willis: jockey-kde says no restricted drivers are in use...
[13:04] <ikonia> Mechdave: can we please move this conversation on, as it's just going around and around and it's not really anything to do with ubuntu support.
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: well the wired connection isnt configured to yurn on at boot
[13:05] <Mechdave> ikonia, sure
[13:05] <fde> Mechdave: #php
[13:05] <ikonia> thanks
[13:05] <neeto> How do I figure out what programs are responsible for which TCP connections?
[13:05] <jxander> is there a way to move applications between screens, not workspaces?
[13:05] <mohsin_> dr_willis: fde: also installed jockey-gtk, it also says that no restricted driver are in use..
[13:05] <fde> neeto: netstat -plaut
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: if you uncomment auto eth0 and iface eth0 inet dhcp it will work
[13:05] <Mechdave> Chaotic_Descent, as fde suggested you could try #php
[13:05] <dr_willis> mohsin_,  thats because you use those tools to install the drivers normally.
[13:05] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: I don't understand. wireless does connect on boot
[13:06] <dr_willis> mohsin_,  you should be ale to click the 'use/install' check box.. andit should install them.. you then reboot.
[13:06] <neeto> how do I see which programs are using bandwidth at the moment?
[13:06] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: I don't have to start up the GUI to have wireless connect
[13:06] <mohsin_> dr_willis: i don't see any checkboxes...
[13:06] <fde> neeto: I just told you...
[13:06] <dr_willis> mohsin_,  perhaps run the tools as the root user with whatever sudo type command you want
[13:06] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: but I'll try what you say anyhow
[13:06] <neeto> fde: sorry, not being observant :/
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: yes, but the wird connection is not enabled at boot, you must sudo ifup eth0
[13:06] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: in the file?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: that will bring it up but only for this boot
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: no, at terminal
[13:07] <Frogging101> I am dual booting with Windows, I can access my files on
[13:07] <Frogging101> Whoops
[13:07] <hischild> Hello. When i watch a video, every few minutes the video will stutter or just freeze. I do have correct codecs.
[13:07] <Decepticon_> what cli app can i use to convert xvid avi files to something smaller and playable on a cellphone?
[13:07] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: so is there no way to configure the interfaces file to just automatically detect a condition (ie, using if statements or something if necessary) and execute?
[13:07] <mohsin_> dr_willis: no use, even ran sudo jockey-gtk, still says that no restricted drivers are in use on this system
[13:07] <NishaKitty> does anyone know why the package managers in 8.10 hide packages I have to keep using apt-get what gives?
[13:07] <Chaotic_Descent> Mechdave: ok. I'll add that to the pile. I think... after I sleep. I'm still not sure whether to press on right now or cut my losses. maybe just a little bit more so I don't end on a low note.
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: if you want it to come up every time, uncomment those 2 lines and it will come up at boot
[13:08] <Frogging101> I am dual booting with Windows XP, I can access my files on Windows just fine with Ubuntu. But, is there any way I can access my Ubuntu files with Windows XP?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: and get dhcp
[13:08] <gonzalo_> ActionParsnip, could you tell me how can i add more "packages" to my packages list?
[13:08] <sipior> hischild: have any heavy i/o going on when the thing stutters?
[13:08] <zamba> i want to set up a vpn tunnel to a windows vpn server.. what package supports this?
[13:08] <gonzalo_> ActionParsnip, becouse i dont have that packages when i use apt
[13:08] <zamba> windows uses ipsec, no?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> gonzalo_: the kernels are in the standard repos, if the repos ave removed the old ones you will need to find other repos which still have them
[13:08] <Decepticon_> what cli app can i use to convert xvid avi files to something smaller and playable on a cellphone?
[13:08] <fde> Frogging101: http://www.fs-driver.org/   that isn't an Ubuntu question though, try ##windows
[13:08] <Pici> !ext3 | Frogging101
[13:08] <hischild> sipior, no. I'm only watching a video, (divx, xvid, any type) and doing nothing else.
[13:09] <Frogging101> fde: Oh, whoops
[13:09] <Frogging101> fde:Thanks
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: depends what the phone can play, please be more exact
[13:09] <mohsin_> anyone :(
[13:09] <cached> is there any way to detect which application is hogging up access to sound?
[13:09] <sipior> hischild: you might not be, but have you verified that your system is not doing anything in the background?
[13:09] <mohsin_> cached: lsof | grep pcm
[13:10] <Skyfury> anyone in with compiling probs in opencv and libtools 2.2 on intrepid?
[13:10] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: I just want to add that I put those two commented lines there in the first place
[13:10] <gamla_kossan> hi guys.. I've screwed up. I edited the xorg.conf without backing it up first, and now it's lost. and when I generate a new one now, it seems I only get some generic driver for my gfx card, since I cannot turn on visual fx for my desktop. anyone have a clue how I can generate a new xorg.conf that will autodetect my stuff?
[13:10] <hischild> sipior, yes i have checked. cpu usage at the times of stuttering seems to drop rather then increase due to something. No more then 20% on each core.
[13:10] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: now i've changed the file do I run that /etc/init.d/networking restart command?
[13:11] <fde> mohsin_: that just hangs
[13:11] <Tyrath> ActionParsnip: or do I reboot?
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: the networking restart command is fine
[13:11] <mohsin_> fde: what? lsof | grep pcm? no it shouldn't
[13:11] <Frogging101> fde: um, I use ext3
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> if those lines relating to eth0 are uncommented
[13:11] <sipior> hischild: probably waiting on i/o.
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath: then eth0 will come up
[13:11] <Chaotic_Descent> What does this translate to? http://ip.address/test.php or http://domain/test.php
[13:11] <Frogging101> Is there a channel for fs-driver?
[13:11] <fde> mohsin_: it does...... perhaps you mean something like lsof /dev/snd/* ?
[13:11] <sipior> hischild: this happen for every movie, or just a few?
[13:11] <mohsin_> cached: you can also do killall pulseaudio to release it...
[13:12] <Frogging101> OR does this count for this channel?
[13:12] <fde> mohsin_: ahh, it just takes forever
[13:12] <mohsin_> fde: works fine on my system...
[13:12] <cached> mohsin_: no process killed?
[13:12] <mohsin_> cached: hmmm, which ubuntu?
[13:12] <Chaotic_Descent> I can't figure out what my own ip or domain is supposed to be... is it... 192.168.0.1 or... oh crap... what's the local IP...
[13:12] <fde> Frogging101: ext3 is ext2 + journal .... you don't need the journal on Windows
[13:12] <cached> mohsin_: the second to latest one i think
[13:12] <gonzalo_> ActionParsnip, yes you are right i must add an old "repo version" to my sources.list, then update the package list, install the old kernel image, and then remove the old repo from my list and do an update again
[13:12] <Decepticon_> what cli app can i use to convert xvid avi files to something smaller and playable on a cellphone?
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> gonzalo_: sound like a plan
[13:13] <Frogging101> fde: but it says it's an ext2 file system access program
[13:13] <mohsin_> cached: hmm.... then i am really really sure that lsof | grep pcm should work... coz thats what i am checking it on..
[13:13] <Skyfury> anyone in with compiling probs in opencv and libtools 2.2 on intrepid? (conflicts with ACLOCAL_AMFLAGS=-I)
[13:13] <sipior> Decepticon: i'm fairly certain mencoder will manage that
[13:13] <dr_willis> Decepticon_,  mencoder, or ffmpeg.. if you know what format to convert to...
[13:13] <Decepticon_> sipior: thanks
[13:13] <fde> Frogging101: yes... what part of me telling you they're the same thing didn't you understand?
[13:13] <hischild> sipior, doubtfully. Every movie so far, even those that i stream of a network pc. However, when i use SSH to run vlc remotely and stream it on a local network, i get the same problem, though when i run the same video on that pc there's no problem. It's not only the video that stutters then, it's the entire screen that starts to stutter.
[13:13] <cached> mohsin_: ok... it's a bit slow. let me wait for it to finish
[13:14] <Frogging101> fde: Oh, maybe I didn't see you tell me they are the same thing, or didn't understand.
[13:14] <dmarkey__> can anyone tell me the configure falgs for openldap on ubuntu
[13:14] <fde> Frogging101: from their FAQ http://www.fs-driver.org/faq.html#acc_ext3
[13:14] <cached> mohsin_: I get something like 9 lines
[13:14] <e-frame> ﻿any help to make a simple script / command to filter out tcpick output in realtime ? "cut" doesn't work
[13:14] <mohsin_> cached: yes, those are the programs using your sound device...
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> e-frame: grep and exec
[13:15] <fde> Frogging101: basically says exactly what I told you, but maybe it'll make more sense
[13:15] <Frogging101> fde: thank you much
[13:15] <Chaotic_Descent> Ok, I'm stuck. what is Apache's ip address or domain? I mean for the files... in the .... /var/www/
[13:15] <mohsin_> so anyone to help me over my nvidia, ubuntu 8.10 and dual head setup?
[13:15] <e-frame> ActionParsnip: so, how the mixed syntax of those ?
[13:15] <e-frame> :D
[13:16] <sipior> hischild: well sure, depending on your network, streaming movies may simply not be possible. but have you checked (with top, for example) to see if your cpu is in heavy wait when the stuttering occurs?
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> e-frame: use pipes
[13:16] <C0p3rn1c> mohsin_: try nvidia-settings
[13:16] <n8tuser> Chaotic_Descent-> localhost but and what ever ip is assigned, but it can listen on specific interface
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> e-frame: eg. ps -ef | grep fire -exec echo {} > ~/fireapps.txt \;
[13:17] <mohsin_> C0p3rn1c: no use...
[13:17] <fde> Chaotic_Descent: should be localhost:80
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> e-frame: the pipe shoves the output to another app
[13:17] <Slart> e-frame: what have you tried? and what are you trying to filter out?
[13:17] <hischild> sipior, it's a 1gb network. I can stream video's just fine when i use windows, so the network isn't the problem.
[13:17] <cached> mohsin_: got it to work. thanks :)
[13:17] <e-frame> ActionParsnip: i use pipes like : tcpick -i wlan0 "port <port>" -yP | cut -d ' ' -f 2
[13:18] <mohsin_> cached: no problem :D
[13:18] <e-frame> ActionParsnip: but it doesn't work
[13:18] <Chaotic_Descent> boy... this tutorial doesn't work at all.
[13:18] <C0p3rn1c> mohsin_: sudo nvidia-settings
[13:18] <e-frame> ActionParsnip: but when i try to cut the output of other command, it works
[13:18] <mohsin_> C0p3rn1c: have already tried such varients
[13:18] <Chaotic_Descent> so now that you've told me to use localhost... it asks me what to do with the .php file instead of doing what the tutorial says it does which is display stuff.
[13:18] <sinbox> anyone here has used liveice with icecast2 server?
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> e-frame: i'm not a massive script gy but im sure there are guides out there, someone in here may be able to assist. or try later
[13:18] <C0p3rn1c> mohsin_:  else it doesnt have write access to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:18] <sipior> hischild: then i don't know what to tell you. have you checked to see how the cpu is spending its time when the movie begins to stutter?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> e-frame: you may also want to check out awk
[13:19] <e-frame> ActionParsnip: this is worked here: sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog | cut -d ' ' -f 4,5
[13:19] <fde> ActionParsnip: what is a PPID as apposed to PID?
[13:19] <gonzalo_> ActionParsnip, thanks!
[13:19] <gonzalo_> thanks!
[13:19] <gonzalo_> bye
[13:19] <e-frame> ActionParsnip: then i just change the first command to tcpick commands, it doesn't work
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> fde: no idea man
[13:19] <e-frame> ActionParsnip: only for this tcpick
[13:20] <fograven> how do I get video on to my Ipod nano 3g?
[13:20] <C0p3rn1c> mohsin_: you can always try and edit xorg.conf yourself, but I would recommend using the nvidia-settings frontend
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> fde: PID is the process ID
[13:20] <Chaotic_Descent> uhg... where are my applications again? I wish Ubuntu would list applications like windows instead of require previous knowledge of where to find them. -_-;
[13:20] <n8tuser> e-frame-> what should be the output of  tcpick -i wlan0 "port <port>" -yP
[13:20] <e-frame> ActionParsnip: in simple words, i cannot pipe out tcpick output :D
[13:20] <hischild> sipior, The cpu isn't in wait when the stuttering is there. I have noticed a slight increase in CPU usage, but nothing that's really high usage.
[13:20] <fograven> any Ipod help on videos?
[13:20] <gonzalo_> fde, its the parent pid
[13:20] <mohsin_> C0p3rn1c: that i will do... first thing first, jockey-gtk says that i am not using an restricted drivers...
[13:20] <fde> ActionParsnip: Oh, because other than the full path the process executable... its the only thing that really differes from -e alone
[13:20] <fograven> I just want to put them on there
[13:20] <e-frame> ActionParsnip: tcpick - TCP stream sniffer and connection tracker
[13:20] <fde> gonzalo_: hmm, would make sense
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> e-frame: ok well start basic with grep
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> e-frame: tcpick | grep http
[13:21] <sipior> hischild: you don't have any compiz effects turned on? also, do shorter videos exhibit the same behaviour? and does this occur after a fixed amount of time in every case?
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> Chaotic_Descent: if you wanna see what you have installed run: dpkg -l | less
[13:22] <e-frame> ActionParsnip: grep doesn't work there :p
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> e-frame: very stange
[13:22] <Chaotic_Descent> ah. stumbled upon it by accident. /usr/bin
[13:22] <e-frame> ActionParsnip: that's why i asked :D
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> e-frame: ive not used tcpick, maybe theres a way for it to output once and stop, like top
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> e-frame: man tcpick
[13:22] <NishaKitty> does anyone know why atp-get can install packages that synaptic can't even find?
[13:22] <hischild> sipior, I have compiz effects turned on, but turning those off or switching to metacity has made no difference. Switching video players hasn't had any success either. Shorter video's also exhibit the same behavior, but there's no fixed time after which it occurs.
[13:22] <Chaotic_Descent> ActionParsnip: the question was where, not what. /usr/bin/ .
[13:22] <e-frame> ActionParsnip: wait, i'll paste the outputs
[13:23] <Slart> e-frame: I think the problem is the delimiter
[13:23] <SOURdiesel> under system>administration>system monitor>file systems, what is gvfs-fuse-daemon?
[13:23] <soreau> hischild: Like what?
[13:23] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: when I simlinked it to /usr/bin it didn't work :/
[13:23] <Slart> e-frame: all the other ways of cutting works
[13:23] <hischild> soreau, i'm sorry?
[13:23] <C0p3rn1c> mohsin_: sudo nvidia-settings will take care of that also after you save the settings(make sure you are using the nvidia driver in the xorg.conf file)
[13:23] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: actually when you symlink it, can you access it via just typing networking?
[13:23] <e-frame> Slart: the problem is i cannot pipe out the output of tcpick in any way
[13:23] <e-frame> strange
[13:23] <mohsin_> C0p3rn1c: thats what i did...
[13:23] <C0p3rn1c> mohsin_: you did enable the propertary hardware drivers right?
[13:23] <OpenBSDRulzs> SOURdiesel: it's a FUSE daemon with GNOME support
[13:24] <soreau> hischild: Bah, this channel is too busy to work in, I was trying to talk to someone else
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath_: what command did you use?
[13:24] <Chaotic_Descent> well... even loading the file in a text editor shows it's not working. I guess my Apache server... uh... well I guess it's running since it loaded the file from localhost... but it's not processing PHP for some reason... :P SOME REASON. *tosses it over his shoulder*
[13:24] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: also sorry I took so long. it took me forever to realise i'd changed the password to ##########
[13:24] <sipior> hischild: hmm. i assume ram isn't an issue, so i must confess i'm a little baffled by your problem. you might try on another machine, see if it exhibits the same problem.
[13:24] <hischild> soreau, np.
[13:24] <n8tuser> e-frame-> where is the output of tcpick normally go?
[13:24] <Guest46523> anyone know how to get an Atheros 5212 mini-pci card to work in Intrepid?
[13:24] <mohsin_> C0p3rn1c: i don't even see them in Hard Drivers...
[13:24] <e-frame> n8tuser: wait, i'm pasting it on pastebin
[13:24] <soreau> I think this channel should be the frontend for several others, like #ubuntu-wifi. #ubuntu-audio, #ubuntu-etc
[13:24] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: ls -s /etc/init.d/networking /usr/bin/networking
[13:24] <Slart> e-frame: it works for me.. try running "tcpick | cut -c 5-15" you'll get characters 5 to 15 only
[13:24] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: do I need to be root to do that?
[13:25] <Slart> e-frame: perhaps put a sudo in front of that
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath_: looks fine, you can now type: networking restart from antywhere
[13:25] <e-frame> Slart: have u try grep the output?
[13:25] <hischild> sipior, that's the really odd thing. I have 3gb ram, so that's not an issue indeed. I have a normal pc next to the laptop that has this issue, which doesn't give my any problems. The 2 laptops i have had also haven't shown the same problems.
[13:25] <Slart> e-frame: yes.. that works too
[13:25] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: so I don't have to be root?
[13:25] <C0p3rn1c> mohsin_: ok you can also install them manually, just download them from nvidia.com
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath_: yes as only root has write access to the folder
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath_: and restarting networking is an admin task too
[13:25] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: I'll see if I can sudo !! it
[13:25] <mohsin_> C0p3rn1c: did...
[13:25] <OpenBSDRulzs> !fuse
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath_: you never have to be root, use sudo
[13:26] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: still no luck
[13:26] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: when I say root I mean using sudo
[13:26] <C0p3rn1c> mohsin, can you run glxgears ?
[13:26] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: I think of sudo as admin/root
[13:27] <Guest46523> noone has any ideas?
[13:27] <_Hypnos> Is there a bug currently that prevents opengl apps from closing?  (except using kill -9)
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath_: good metality
[13:27] <hischild> _Hypnos, not as far as i know.
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath_: so with those lines uncommented does eth0 connect ok?
[13:28]  * Chaotic_Descent groans
[13:28] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: I don't know why buy the symlink isn't working
[13:28] <Chaotic_Descent> nothing ever works the way it's supposed to.
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath_: very strange
[13:28] <Chaotic_Descent> why can't my text editor unlock files instead of me having to type in a command to give myself root access temporarily each time?
[13:29] <linux_user400354> im getting this error when trying to run amarok in a fresh install of ubuntu 8.10 "Amarok could not find any sound-engine plugins. Amarok is now updating the KDE configuration database. Please wait a couple of minutes, then restart Amarok." i tried reinstalling amarok, and i still get the same thing.
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath_: whats the output of: file /usr/bin/networking
[13:29] <ubutom> Hi, I have two harddrives in my PC, On the first one I had Ubuntu running, which I'm currently on, on the second hd I have installed a new Windows XP. How do I update Grub now for recognizing the XP on 2nd HD?
[13:29] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: the message I get is: ls: cannot access /usr/bin/networking: No such file or directory
[13:29] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: the message I get is: ls: cannot access /usr/bin/networking: No such file or directory
[13:29] <Jimmey> My computer just shut itself down while I was writing a .iso file to /dev/sdb1. Now when I restart /dev/sdb1 won't mount at all, and I can't even run FSCK. What should I do?
[13:30] <magnetron> !info playonlinux
[13:30] <C0p3rn1c> I have 2 external hdd's, I tried sharing them both via samba, only 1 works, the one failing is mounted to /media/My Book , could that space give any problems ?
[13:30] <Slart> e-frame: oh... it also seems that if you use space as a delimiter you get one field for each space-character.. haven't found a way to make it ignore repeated delimiters
[13:30] <n8tuser> ubutom-> look at the comments of that  /boot/grub/menu.lst to see how it is done.
[13:30] <white-weezel> hy, need some help: what do i have to enter in the terminal to install the nvidia drivers??
[13:30] <white-weezel> THX
[13:30] <e-frame> Slart: ActionParsnip n8tuser i run this command as root, " tcpick -i wlan0 "port mmcc" -yP" the output shows about y!messenger packets. but when i pipe it out, there is no output.
[13:30] <magnetron> NishaKitty: are yu sure you installed  playonlinux using apt-get?
[13:30] <Maveas> Somebody familiar with Wireshark? I don't know how to add a device to the app?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath_: try this instead: cd /usr/bin; sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart .
[13:31] <C0p3rn1c> !nvidia | white-weezel
[13:31] <sipior> Chaotic_Descent: because it's considered unwise to allow editors to do such things. most editors can spawn shells and the like, so careful management of permissions is cheap insurance.
[13:31] <ubutom> thx n8tuser, checking
[13:31] <Slart> e-frame: can you show us the whole command you use?
[13:31] <NishaKitty> magnetron: I used the deb installer that happens when you double click
[13:31] <NishaKitty> and then I used apt-get to remove it
[13:31] <magnetron> NishaKitty: that's no the same as installing via apt-get
[13:31] <white-weezel> thx, gont 2 look @,,
[13:31] <NishaKitty> apt-get knew how to uninstall it though
[13:31] <magnetron> NishaKitty:pso does synaptic
[13:32] <NishaKitty> it never showed up there
[13:32] <LjjjL> NishaKitty: yes, of course it does. but apt-get only knows how to *install* packages that are in the *repositories*
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> NishaKitty: i only use apt, just easier imho
[13:32] <magnetron> NishaKitty: it will, after you install it
[13:32] <NishaKitty> I'm saying it didn't
[13:32] <cutterjohn> hello, has any definitive cause been found for the vagaries of flashplayer-nonfree operation under 8.10?  (running under a brand new 32b 8.10 x86 install, and just about every flash embedded item will play except for youtube via their site)
[13:32] <magnetron> NishaKitty: look, install it and see for yourself
[13:32] <e-frame> Slart: even this command doesn't give any output :  # tcpick -i wlan0 "port mmcc" -yP | grep YMSG
[13:32] <NishaKitty> k I'll take a screen of it ~~
[13:32] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: now I've done that do I symlink or just try networking restart in terminal?
[13:32] <Guest46523> no one has any idea how to get an Atheros card working?
[13:33] <magnetron> NishaKitty: is playonlinux *installed* now?
[13:33] <LjjjL> cutterjohn: you might try using the Flash package that's in Canonical's partner repositories instead (but make sure you uninstall flashplugin-nonfree first)
[13:33] <Chaotic_Descent> sipior: is there something I'm doing wrong that I can't edit my Apache config file, or is that all part of the admin restrictions that should be in place all the time? like would I not have to use "sudo" to change them if I changed some setting? maybe I don't have ownership of the files or something? (I think I heard that said somewhere, but I have no idea if it's valid.)
[13:33] <Rockj> Anyone here uses luks-encrypted volumes? I have issues with ubuntu not automounting my device after I've unlocked it...
[13:33] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: btw thanks heaps for showing me that pastebinit prog - its awesome :D
[13:33] <magnetron> Guest46523: well, maybe if you ask the channel about it
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath_: o yeah its awesome
[13:33] <e-frame> Slart: while "YMSG" is always on the first place of every line.
[13:33] <hischild> Guest35047, which atheros card do you have?
[13:33] <Slart> e-frame: can you pastebin some example output just from the tcpick command?
[13:33] <cutterjohn> LjjjL: Thanks, hadn't even looked in there but will try that as I've tried both through the repo and manual installs with the same results...  off to test
[13:33] <Guest46523> magnetron: and how would I go about that?  I have asked several times and got no response
[13:34] <n8tuser> Chaotic_Descent-> are you just winging these things?  try to follow an apache tutorial on how to install it
[13:34] <hischild> Chaotic_Descent, the files you change when you edit settings for apache can affect your entire system. That's the reason you can't just normally edit it with your user. If i remember correctly the www-data user owns it.
[13:34] <Chaotic_Descent> n8tuser: I'm following a tutorial. >:P
[13:34] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: still can't symlink it
[13:34] <ackbahr> Hi folks! I've got meetings to planwith individual people, and I asked them when they were available. Do you know of an "anti-doodle" that could help me compute all this (make a schedule as grouped as possible)?
[13:34] <magnetron> Guest46523: try elaborating on the detail, as in which atheros card and chipset you have and what steps you went through in trying to solve it
[13:34] <milligan_> How can I check what program is using my sound device? Suddenly, firefox isn't playing any sound anymore.
[13:34] <n8tuser> Chaotic_Descent-> and what is it telling you to do?
[13:34] <Guest46523> Ok
[13:34] <e-frame> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu.com/76387/
[13:34] <milligan_> nvm
[13:34] <milligan_> found it
[13:34] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: when I check the files in the /usr/bin directory there's no networking file either...
[13:35] <Guest46523> I have an Atheros 5212 in a Lenovo Thinkpad T61
[13:35] <Chaotic_Descent> n8tuser: it's telling me to type in commands that don't include "sudo", but not telling me why they don't work exactly the way they have it.
[13:35] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: ie, ls network* returns nothing
[13:35] <Guest46523> I have installed the backport drivers (Ath5k) and for about 3 weeks had no issues
[13:35] <sipior> Chaotic_Descent: they may simply assume that you're already logged in as root?
[13:35] <n8tuser> Chaotic_Descent-> well configuring apache config files may require sudo priviledges
[13:35] <Guest46523> then it started not connecting to any accesspoints and giving the message "Can't reset hardware"
[13:36] <Guest46523> if I uninstall/reinstall the backport drivers, sometimes it works
[13:36] <Tyrath_> clear
[13:36] <Guest46523> on Ubunto 8.10
[13:36] <Guest46523> anyone have any ideas?
[13:36] <Tyrath_> Guest46523: what's up?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath_: did you run the command I gave you?
[13:36] <Chaotic_Descent> sipior: logged in as root means "sudo" or something else? I dunno... *mumble incoherently*
[13:36] <e-frame> Slart: i'm capturing ym traffic in my lan :p
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath_: cd /usr/bin; sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart .
[13:37] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: I did that one yes
[13:37] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: didn't seem to work
[13:37] <Maveas> e-frame: ym traffic? :) and with what app?
[13:37] <Slart> e-frame: perhaps the package contents isn't written to the usual stdout.. I can't grep package contents neither
[13:37] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: I'll try it again
[13:37] <Guest46523> Tyrath_: basically, I can't get the ath5k driver to work
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath_: puts you in the folder then creates the link in that place
[13:37] <guddd> i've got the same problem as this guy http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/122202-mysql-removal-installation-problems.html
[13:37] <Slart> e-frame: but I can grep the regular output from tcpick.. without the -yP switch
[13:38] <e-frame> without -yP ? how?
[13:38] <sipior> Chaotic_Descent: well, you generally need root permission to go mucking about with configuration files. either you get that from using sudo or logging in directly as root. i don't know what tutorial you are using, and so thought that maybe they had assumed the latter.
[13:38] <guddd> is there any way to sort it out, except reinstalling?
[13:38] <e-frame> Slart: without -yP ? how?
[13:38] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: ah cool. see I thought ; was like && but its not so cool :D
[13:38] <e-frame> Maveas: tcpick
[13:38] <cutterjohn> LjjjL: nope same thing again... Youtube sites complains about lack of javascript (enabled for domain in noscript) OR old version of flashplayer
[13:38] <Tyrath_> Guest46523: I have no idea srry :/
[13:38] <Chaotic_Descent> hm.
[13:38] <LjjjL> cutterjohn: have you restarted firefox after doing the reinstalling?
[13:39] <Tyrath_> Guest46523: I'd suggest googling it
[13:39] <Slart> e-frame: hmm.. this is weird. I just reran the command.. and now it works..
[13:39] <cutterjohn> LjjjL: yes, quit ff uninstalled the nonfree version, installed the adobe-flashplugin restarted ff
[13:39] <e-frame> Slart: which command ?
[13:39] <Guest46523> Tyrath_: Tried that, and short of compiling my own module, there isn't really any help
[13:39] <Guest46523> I don't want to do that
[13:40] <SOURdiesel> do i need to uninstall flash 9 and then install flash 10?
[13:40] <NishaKitty> magnetron: http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/2154/screenshotqj8.png
[13:40] <Slart> e-frame: I just rain "sudo tcpick "port imap" -yP | grep -i fetch" to try and capture some email-traffic
[13:40] <scopecreep> is there an easy way to get the new adobe flash 64 bit beta
[13:40] <Slart> e-frame: the first time I ran it I got nothing.. second time it worked
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath_: && means 'only do it if the previos command succeeds' ; means 'do this next'
[13:40] <e-frame> Slart: yes i got the same thing with "cut" as the second command after pipe
[13:40] <cutterjohn> LjjjL:  other sites with flash still work, not sure if other sites with embedded youtube links work though as I haven't found one to test fromt hat aspect yet
[13:40] <Chaotic_Descent> so I'm wondering if I'm reading the wrong tutorial... and I think I skipped a part at the beginning. and I can't make sense of it. the paragraph that starts talking about PuTTy, is that dependant on this "dedicated server or VPN" thing, or regardless of that? I can't even figure out of "dedicated server or VPN" is required. I sure as hell am not going to buy server space just to tinker with PHP and MySQL. Retarded.
[13:40] <Maveas> Does somebody know how to allow Wireshark to use wlan1?
[13:41] <Chaotic_Descent> oops, forgot the URL. http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_debian_lamp_server
[13:41] <linux_user400354> where did kcontrol go in ubuntu 7.10?
[13:41] <linux_user400354> where did kcontrol go in ubuntu 8.10?
[13:41] <Chaotic_Descent> great... who's going to read that and see both parts...
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> linux_user400354: if you arent using kde you wont have it
[13:42] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: no luck
[13:42] <linux_user400354> ActionParsnip, how can i install it?
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> linux_user400354: try running systemsettings in a launcher if you do :D
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> linux_user400354: if you want to use kde instead of gnome you will need to run: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[13:42] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: are you sure I shouldn't be aliasing it?
[13:43] <NishaKitty> magnetron: found the problem the search is screwed up in synaptic if I go down the list it shows up back the tpying the package name in search doesn nothing
[13:43] <NishaKitty> *shrugs* weird thing
[13:43] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: I could simply alias it to the command
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath_: alias it if you wwish, I use symlinks personally, alias is another way to acieve the same thinf
[13:43] <linux_user400354> ActionParsnip, i had it in 8.04 without installing the entire kubuntu-desktop. i have a few kde apps running in gnome.
[13:43] <cutterjohn> Anyone else have any ideas about flash and 8.10 with youtube.com?  other sites that I've gone to as tests work fine, but youtube complains about lack of javascript or "old" version of flash
[13:43] <linux_user400354> ActionParsnip, are you running kubuntu?
[13:43] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: I personally don't get symlinks... don't they require two files?
[13:44] <cutterjohn> (fresh 32b 8.10 install w/psyke83's pulseaudio suggested changes)
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> linux_user400354: ubuntu uses gnome + metacity so kcontrolsettings wouldnt achieve much, systemsettings is the kde config application
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath_: its like a shortcut in windows, it can also be used for folders and you can cd through the folder and the file system will transfer but if you cd .. you will go back to the folder the symlink is contained in
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> linux_user400354: inded
[13:45] <linux_user400354> ActionParsnip, i just installed systemsettings. it doesnt include kcontrol. could you tell me what this gives you? dpkg -S `which kcontrol`
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath_: the symlink is made to a file or folder and you must have write access to where you are creating the symlink
[13:46] <cutterjohn> while I'm here, has anyone had any luck with the 64b version of 8.10 an the MSI MS-1651 (GX620) PM45/ICH9M?
[13:46] <Slart> e-frame: hmm.. from what I see on my box here I can grep the output from tcpick -yP just fine.. I don't know why it didn't work before
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> linux_user400354: andy@fileserver:~$ dpkg -S `which kcontrol`
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> dpkg-query: --search needs at least one file name pattern argument
[13:47] <Chaotic_Descent> uhg... why isn't this website indexed or at least labeled properly so you can tell the optional "install from source file" crap they TELL YOU is optional but then don't properly label and force you to read god knows how much irrelevant instructions? >:P http://lamphowto.com/
[13:47] <e-frame> Slart: with the same command ?
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> linux_user400354: the name of the app to run is systemsettings.
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> linux_user400354: andy@fileserver:~$ system
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> system-config-printer-kde  systemsettings
[13:47] <linux_user400354> ActionParsnip, systemsettings is for kde4 and im looking for kcontrol for kde3 apps like amarok
[13:47] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: even writing an alias isn't letting me use it
[13:47] <linux_user400354> ActionParsnip, it looks like you dont have kcontrol
[13:47] <e-frame> Slart: can u show me the command u ran ?
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath_: you will need to sudo the command
[13:47] <Slart> e-frame: I just ran "sudo tcpick -yP | grep -i slart".. and then I see my irc-conversations from this channel
[13:47] <Chaotic_Descent> I'll blame it on the fact that it was written in the ancient year of 2006, when no one know how to write for a damn. oh wait! they don't know how to write NOW.
[13:48] <Rockj> Anyone who could help me with an luks nautilius mount issue? The issue first appeared in 2006 (at least I found a forum post from then) - http://forum.soft32.com/linux/nautilus-mount-removable-LUKS-volumes-ftopict460839.html  - how do I get it to actually mount the volume in nautilius after luks volume is open?
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> linux_user400354: try asking in #kde
[13:48]  * Chaotic_Descent shuts up
[13:48] <e-frame> well, id doesn't work here :(
[13:48] <e-frame> it#
[13:48] <gnext> any ip and port scanner?
[13:49] <Slart> e-frame: with that command you tried before?
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> gnext: nmap
[13:49] <e-frame> Slart: it doesn't work if i pipe it out
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath_: anyhoo, is your eth0 up now?
[13:49] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: alias isn't working with sudo eiher
[13:49] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: I'll test it now
[13:50] <e-frame> Slart: i did this: tcpick -i wlan0 -yP | grep -i frame
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath_: add one in ~/.bashrc
[13:50] <Chaotic_Descent> so... can anyone tell me if this step is for people installing stuff from source code or for people installing from packages? : "Then we want to set the proper ownership for the MySQL directories and data files, so that only MySQL (and root) can do anything with them."
[13:50] <e-frame> Slart: as root
[13:50] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: that's what I did
[13:50] <Slart> e-frame: and you don't get anything?
[13:50] <pen> anyone know how to make hsetroot start on startup?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath_: did you run: source ~/.bahrc
[13:50] <e-frame> Slart: yep
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath_: to reread the file?
[13:50] <Chaotic_Descent> Does installing from packages automatically do that? (I have no idea if "installing from packages" is a real term. I'm totally BSing my way through Linux terminology.)
[13:50] <e-frame> Slart: wait, it gave me a line
[13:50] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: nope, i'll do that now
[13:50] <r3dux> Chaotic_Descent, - sounds like src - I've got mysql up and running without changing any dir permissions
[13:51] <Slart> e-frame: your nickname is only in the package if someone else says it
[13:51] <pen> anyone know how to make hsetroot start on startup?
[13:51] <Chaotic_Descent> r3dux: ok, thanks. sounds like this whole LAMP setup tutorial is redundant... :(
[13:51] <slayton> can someone help me to get my volume keys working?  When I press the buttons it says the volume goes up and down but the actual volume isn't affected
[13:51] <e-frame> it's strange, now it works.
[13:51] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: actually that won't work cause I keep my aliases in a separate file
[13:51] <n8tuser> e-frame-> what about   tcpick  -i wlan0 -yp > file.txt  and then grep the file.txt ?
[13:51] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: my aliases are in .bash_aliases
[13:51] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: which is read by .bashrc
[13:51] <e-frame> Slart: i'll paste it
[13:52] <fosco_> pen: which desktop environment?
[13:52] <Tyrath_> ok I'm still here
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Tyrath_: then rereading .bashrc will reread both
[13:52] <pen> fosco_: xmonad
[13:52] <r3dux> slayton - from your sound mixer, change the default channel to one that actually changes volume - sometimes the one that works isn't the default
[13:52] <e-frame> Slart: n8tuser here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/76392/
[13:52] <slayton> r3dux, is there anyway to tell which mixer it should be?
[13:52] <mrak> hello there
[13:52] <fosco_> pen: try ~/.Xsessions or something similar
[13:53] <mrak> can u tewll me where dmesg logging
[13:53] <beigebox> hm.. anybody knows wheater pygtk is installed by default on ubuntu?
[13:53] <Welshman> Hi, thanks for Ibex
[13:53] <e-frame> Slart: n8tuser looks like it has sooooo long delay
[13:53] <Tyrath_> this is good
[13:53] <slayton> beigebox, /usr/local/
[13:53] <r3dux> slayton - Trial & error as far as I'm concerned - slide 'em up and down until you find one that changes volume - that's ya boy
[13:53] <oskar-> mrak:  dmesg outputs the content of a kernel-internal ring buffer
[13:53] <Slart> e-frame: that looks like the output I'm getting
[13:53] <beigebox> slayton: so it *is* installed by default right?
[13:53] <oskar-> mrak:  the contents are simply overwritten at wrap-around
[13:54] <e-frame> n8tuser: i don't want to dump it as atext file. although it works
[13:54] <mrak> oskar-: yes, but where is log for it
[13:54] <slayton> beigebox, oh I thought you ask WHERE it was installed. NO it is not installed by default
[13:54] <n8tuser> e-frame-> sometimes we have to do whatever it takes to get the results we need
[13:54] <Chaotic_Descent> ok... this place doesn't exist. why? /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf
[13:54] <r3dux> e-frame, you can dump it to tail to follow it, if that's what you're after
[13:54] <beigebox> slayton: oh, thanks
[13:55] <pen> fosco_: I don't think I have .Xsessions but .Xsessions-error
[13:55] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent thats not wher ubuntu puts it's config file
[13:55] <Slart> e-frame: so.. grep works.. lets try if cut works too
[13:55] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: what docutument ar eyou following
[13:55] <e-frame> Slart: ok, i'll give it a try
[13:55] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: fabulous. http://lamphowto.com/
[13:55] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: no luck
[13:55] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent you don't need that document, you've got lamp installed
[13:55] <fosco_> pen: try /etc/X11/Xsession
[13:55] <Tyrath_> ActionParsnip: that's with eth0 atleast
[13:55] <cutterjohn> <--- continuing to poke through the forums for a flash fix...
[13:55] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: that install is not for an ubuntu install
[13:55] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: I do? I only installed Apache, MySQL, and PHP.
[13:56] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent that is LAMP
[13:56] <e-frame> r3dux: i don't want to involve any file. i just want to watch the stream
[13:56] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: thats it
[13:56] <slayton> r3dux, thanks I fixed it!
[13:56] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: oh...
[13:56] <babo> i've recorded an flv on linux camstudio that works fine on linux. but when i play it on windows, the sound comes out all messed up ...
[13:56] <pen> fosco_: ok
[13:56] <r3dux> y/w slayton :)
[13:56] <oskar-> mrak:  i do not know, if it is logged to a file by default. maybe the sysklogd can do it, then it might get to a file in /var/log/
[13:57] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[13:57] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: well, I noticed it wasn't interpreting my PHP files properly so I was ... I was told to read these web pages...
[13:57] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: yeah that one too.
[13:57] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent thats the key one
[13:58]  * e-frame ok now wait for the packet being sniffed :D
[13:58] <E90|trucker> :).
[13:58] <mrak> oskar-: i like for thx :)
[13:58] <Slart> e-frame: there is a test-channel where you can get some test-messages sent to you.. including a nice ascii cow =)
[13:58] <Slart> e-frame: #test
[13:59] <logansan01> !fr
[13:59] <e-frame> Slart: thx dude!
[13:59] <Tyrath_> logansan01: when you do that try to sent it to the user you desire ie, !fr | <username>
[14:00] <Tyrath_> logansan01: actually !fr > <username> would be even better :D
[14:00] <Chaotic_Descent> it doesn't say what do change my PHP memory_limit to... it just says to increase it.
[14:00] <r3dux> Anyone know why compiz will sometimes start and when you kick off the benchmark it's low (say 12fps under load) but other times you'll get a "good" start and it'll run 120fps under load?
[14:00] <Mudf1apMike> It appears cake issues an exit() after a cached view is rendered, is there any way to prevent this?
[14:00] <deever> anyone brought XDMCP over NAT to work?
[14:00] <Chaotic_Descent> no nevermind... it just says I may need to... @_@
[14:01]  * e-frame ok now i know that there are some delay on this stuff, but it actually works. don't hope it be so realtime
[14:01] <r3dux> guess not, nn!
[14:01] <ikonia> e-frame can you stop with the /me commands please
[14:01] <e-frame> Slart: n8tuser r3dux and all thanx@lot
[14:01] <e-frame> ok ikonia :D
[14:01] <ikonia> thanks
[14:01] <Slart> you're welcome e-frame
[14:01] <JonathanEllis> Hi, Anyone managed to get twin screens working by adding a second graphics card or is the N-Vidia twin output card the only way?
[14:01] <e-frame> case closed :p
[14:02] <ikonia> JonathanEllis done it with xinerma you can't use twinview though
[14:02] <gnext> any one have used freegate???????????
[14:02] <JonathanEllis> ikonia: thanks. Will google that
[14:02] <ikonia> JonathanEllis keep in mind twinview is for one card only
[14:03] <Slart> !ask | gnext
[14:04] <Jimmey> My computer just shut itself down while I was writing a .iso file to /dev/sdb1. Now when I restart /dev/sdb1 won't mount at all, and I can't even run FSCK. What should I do?
[14:04] <Chaotic_Descent> What is my user and group?
[14:05] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent for what ?
[14:05] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: "Search both the strings starting by "User" and "Group", and change the names by the current username and groupname you are using."
[14:05] <Slart> Jimmey: what is /dev/sdb1? hard drive? cd-rom? something else?
[14:05] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent which document
[14:06] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent found it
[14:06] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: the one you sent me to. hmm... I found a "users and groups" thing... I think I found it.
[14:06] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent your user id is the id you login as
[14:06] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: if you type "id" you'll see your user id and primary group (ignore the other gruops)
[14:06] <Chaotic_Descent> My group seems to be the same as my user.
[14:06] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent operfect
[14:06] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: perfect sorry
[14:06] <Jimmey> Slart, it's a 250GB IDE HDD
[14:07] <Chaotic_Descent> Is there a way to change my Ubuntu username?
[14:07] <Slart> Jimmey: oh.. so you were saving an iso-file to the hard drive.. computer shut down.. and now you can't run fsck on it? do you get some kind of error from fsck?
[14:07] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent not without a reasonable ammount effort, your username really doesn't matter
[14:08] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent it's only an identifier, no-one will see it
[14:08] <ubee> hello ubuntu, can you help me, i have an app which requires libapr0, but i cannot install it :(
[14:08] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: it does if it's made public when I go on the internet and it happens to be my real name.
[14:08] <pen> ubee: ? why can't?
[14:08] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent it's not made public
[14:08] <Jimmey> Slart, The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
[14:08] <Jimmey> is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:  e2fsck -b 8193 <device&gt;
[14:08] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: it's not? ...
[14:08] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent no
[14:08] <ubee> i am assuming its old pen
[14:09] <oskar-> Chaotic_Descent:  you can try "sudo vipw" and "sudo vipw -s", but on your own responsibility, and take care!
[14:09] <Slart> Jimmey: what command generated that output?
[14:09] <cutterjohn> LjjjL: oh hell, I decided to disable noscript, and now youtube works... seems like noscript extension for ff is a little on the borked side
[14:09] <pen> ubee: what do you mean? old?
[14:09] <Jimmey> Slart, fsck
[14:09] <Slart> Jimmey: just "fsck" from a command line?
[14:09] <ubee> i had a look in synaptic i found libapr1
[14:09] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: I see my username when I do /whois to myself.
[14:09] <Jimmey> Slart, it was sudo fsck /dev/sdb1
[14:10] <oskar-> Chaotic_Descent:  better make backup copys of the affected files and read the man pages before
[14:10] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent that's irc
[14:10] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: nothing to do with lamp
[14:10] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: and thats an ident - not your username
[14:10] <ubee> pen: i thjink it is because the app is a dapper install
[14:10] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: why can't I stop irc from using my Ubuntu username on the internet?
[14:10] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent you can' you've just not set your client up
[14:10] <pen> ubee: what app is it?
[14:10] <ubee> lintouch, pen
[14:10] <oskar-> Chaotic_Descent:  fill in other user names and perhaps you also have to disable an ident service
[14:11] <Tyrath_> !tes
[14:11] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: uhhh... I'm not sure that Xchat lets me change those settings... client...
[14:11] <C0p3rn1c> I have two USB HDD's , but only one of them works when I try to share them trough samba, any idea why?
[14:11] <ubee> pen, my intention is to prove to my boss that a ubuntu box can communicate with his plc devices via modbustcp
[14:11] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent it's in your settings somewhere
[14:11] <Slart> Jimmey: and it's just a regular hard drive.. no raid or other weird things.. and the drive is still called /dev/sdb1 ? do you see it in gparted?
[14:11] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: ident settings are what your looking for
[14:12] <Jimmey> Slart, yeah, normal IDE Slave. I can see it in Gparted, but mounting/checking through that program returns the same errors
[14:12] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: Xchat seems to be a son of a @#$%& then. There's no ident settings.
[14:12] <pen> ubee: so that's why you try to install lintouch?
[14:12] <ubee> pen yes
[14:12] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent it's in there, I suggest you look or read the guides to find it
[14:12] <C0p3rn1c> ﻿ but only one of them is shareable trough samba*
[14:13] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu Open Week] Where is the log of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/openweekintrepid > Thu Nov 6th, 2008 22.00 UTC 'Ubuntu and your Money'?
[14:13] <ras_> join  ##jabber
[14:13] <ikonia> bullgard4 come on - you know the topic - support
[14:13] <pen> ubee: have you looked into aptitude or synaptics? see what packages you get if you search for that keyword?
[14:13]  * Chaotic_Descent grinds his teeth. Xchat you son of a @#$%&. I'm so glad your website won't load.
[14:14] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent don't need to se stared out language, just don't use it
[14:14] <pen> Chaotic_Descent: use irssi!! :D
[14:14] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: I won't use it when I'm not angry.
[14:14] <pen> Chaotic_Descent: or I don't know
[14:14] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent no - don't use it at all
[14:14] <ubee> pen: yes i just looked, lintouch is there but depends on libapr0
[14:15] <Slart> Chaotic_Descent: it's a bit unintuitive.. Xchat, network list.. there you have default nickname
[14:15] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: can I use [expletive]?
[14:15] <pen> ubee: howabout libapr0?
[14:15] <pen> ubee: search for it
[14:15] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent just don't, there is no need for it
[14:15] <pen> ubee: see if you can install it from synaptics
[14:15] <cutterjohn> plus for x-chat you can set per network usernames tooo
[14:15] <ikonia> cutterjohn perfect info, thank you
[14:15] <ubee> ok pen
[14:15] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: there's no need for emotion? I disagree.
[14:16] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent there is no need for anything with fould language, or suggests foul language, lets stop discussing this, and just accept it
[14:16] <pen> Chaotic_Descent: I remember in mac you have some client which can display emo
[14:16] <cutterjohn> just click on the properties or info or whatever it is for the network then unclick use default names and fill in the boxes...
[14:16] <timri> any here has a ralink rt2500pci that has a working resume? Modprobe-ing wont work here
[14:16] <cutterjohn> there MAY be a bug in which if you do NOT open up the info box for a network it may NOT use your customized settings
[14:16] <ubee> pen: i attempted to install via synaptic but... Depends: libapr0 (>=2.0.54) but it is not installable
[14:16] <droopsta915> does ubuntu have anything similar to notepad, or is open office the only thing I can use to take notes?
[14:17] <ikonia> droopsta915 any text editor of your choice
[14:17] <timri> droopsta915: I use MousePad
[14:17] <Slart> droopsta915: there is  text editor ... or gedit
[14:17] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[14:17] <cutterjohn> as IIRC it will NOT try to connect to the selected irc server unless you do so, so this may affect all optional custmized settings...  for the server it just connects to the top one in the list unless you open up the settings first
[14:17] <oskar-> timri:  i have a rt2561 working here
[14:17] <droopsta915> thanks
[14:17] <Tetracomm> Why doesn't the terminal echo anything when I am typing my password in?
[14:18] <ikonia> Tetracomm so people can't see it
[14:18] <ubee> pen: although the synaptic items are suffixed with breezy
[14:18] <oskar-> timri:  ah, you mean resume after standby and such modes?
[14:18] <timri> oskar-: Does it come out of resume correctly when you resume the second time?
[14:18] <pen> ubee: sounds outdated
[14:18] <timri> oskar-: Hibernate actually
[14:18] <Chaotic_Descent> I'm sorry, but I don't think this is the place to enforce professional workplace behavior on people who aren't employed. I'm not expressing anger at people (ok, I expressed it at you at one point when you were getting on my nerves. I may not have perfect judgement of when it's warranted but I do think it's appropriate to express emotion.)
[14:18] <Tetracomm> ikonia: Why doesn't it just echo asterisks then?
[14:18] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent please join the channel #ubuntu-ops#
[14:18] <lianimator> does anyone know how to fix the "invalid mount option" error with flash drives? when I mount manually, I have no write access to the flash drive.
[14:19] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent please join the channel #ubuntu-op
[14:19] <ikonia> Tetracomm: it's fine as it is
[14:19] <oskar-> timri:  no, it does not, i think the tx power is set to 0. but the kernel also get exceptions in that case here
[14:19] <Slart> Tetracomm: then you know how many characters someone has written..
[14:19] <starenka> lianimator: you gotta mount as rw not ro
[14:19] <cutterjohn> Chaotic_Descent:  in general it
[14:19] <ikonia> Tetracomm: you can re-write it if you want
[14:19] <Tetracomm> Slart: Thank you.
[14:19] <Chaotic_Descent> Slart: I have nothing like "Xchat, network list" on mine.
[14:19] <pen> ubee: did you try google their homepage? maybe they have updated projects
[14:19] <cutterjohn> Chaotic_Descent:  in general it's a good idea to NOT bitch at people giving you free help...
[14:19] <lianimator> starenka: sudo mount -oh rw /dev/sdb1 /media/disk .. like that?
[14:19] <timri> oskar-: Here it's worse. The kernel event system starts hugging CPU like crazy events/0 wants 100% CPU
[14:19] <Slart> Chaotic_Descent: the leftmost menu is called XChat.. right?
[14:19] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent please join the channel #ubuntu-ops
[14:19] <ogzy> i was trying to install qt4.4 form intrepid repo at my hardy system, so i added the intrepid repo and run apt-get update, the thing is before that i also download the deb files from launchpad and tried to install them but they aren't installed now because they are not installed or broken i am not able to install them, i am not able to remove them also, when i remove the line that added for intrepid after updating the index it says that apt will remove nearly
[14:19] <ogzy> he whole system, so how can i fix it :)
[14:20] <cutterjohn> under the X-chat menu, server list CTRL-S
[14:20] <lianimator> I meant dash 'o' .. text replacement.
[14:20] <ikonia> ogzy: don't mix the repos
[14:20] <starenka> lianimator: what's -oh?
[14:20] <ikonia> ogzy: hardy for hardy
[14:20] <ogzy> ikonia, yes but i was just planning to install python-qt4 from that repo
[14:20] <ubee> pen: yeah i looked, there is an xp version there but that negates my efforts to bring linux into the office
[14:20] <Chaotic_Descent> Slart: nope. IRC, edit, network, discussion, go, help. XChat-gnome 0.19
[14:20] <Chaotic_Descent> er, 0.18
[14:20] <xxploit> hes using gnome-xchat
[14:20] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent. Please join the channel #ubuntu-ops
[14:20] <timri> Weird thing is sudo modprobe -r rt2500pci && sudo modprobe rt2500pci WORKS but only after the 1st resume
[14:20] <cutterjohn> Chaotic_Descent: under the X-chat menu, server list CTRL-S
[14:20] <pen> ubee: how about alternatives?
[14:20] <Slart> Chaotic_Descent: ah.. but then you're not using xchat.. you're using xchat-gnome.. different ui
[14:21] <starenka> lianimator: u sure u have write permissions to dir u mount the flash to?
[14:21] <ubee> pen: yes i am v-open to alternatives.
[14:21] <lianimator> starenka: dash oh for option? how do I mount with rw?
[14:21] <xxploit> Chaotic_Descent: Edit then prefs
[14:21] <timri> subsequent resumes just make the kernel gobble CPU
[14:21] <ogzy> what was the command for regenerating the index file enfing with -a
[14:22] <pen> ubee: hm
[14:22] <cutterjohn> Chaotic_Descent: never mind the menus are different for the GNOME build...  I use the other user-supported one myself
[14:22] <Slart> Chaotic_Descent: edit, preferences, IRC preferences.. there are the nicks
[14:22] <Static--> so anyone have a quick fix for my sound, worked for months, all the sudden just turned off today, no icon or anything
[14:23] <ubee> pen: is a toughee, i believe its possible to modbustcp from a linux box but i have to prove it
[14:23] <starenka> lianimator: dunno, never mount manually (flashes) - here's my mount /dev/sdc1 on /media/disk type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,uhelper=hal,flush,uid=1000,utf8,shortname=lower) ... (you sure u have permission to write into the dir you mount into?)
[14:23] <oskar-> Static--:  "cat /proc/asound/cards", is your card listed? is the driver loaded?
[14:23] <aaa666> hi
[14:23] <aaa666> plz help me
[14:24] <Static--> oskar : cat /proc/asound/cards
[14:24] <Static-->  0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[14:24] <Static-->                       HDA Intel at 0xee400000 irq 17
[14:24] <Static--> its there
[14:24] <FloodBot1> Static--: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:24] <starenka> lianimator: or maybe better: /dev/sdc1 /media/disk vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,uhelper=hal,flush,uid=1000,utf8,shortname=lower 0 0
[14:24] <aaa666> i have usb edge modem
[14:24] <lianimator> starenka: it seems root:root owns it. because I mkdir with sudo. I'm trying to change it to me.
[14:24] <ubee> pen: in my mind its working LOL, i have a python script running banging data into mysql, and a web client showing data
[14:24] <timri> Static--: You're part of the audio group?
[14:24] <Static--> yeah
[14:24] <cutterjohn> LjjjL: er oops, no a noscript problem, but a operator error problem... forgot to give permissions to ytimg.com ... :D
[14:24] <aaa666> under network tools its show my service provider name apn name
[14:24] <negge> I have an Ubuntu server and I need a way to send e-mails to myself from the command-line. I read abit about it on various sites but there are way too many ways to do it. What is the simpliest method (I'd like to be able to send mail from PHP too)?
[14:24] <aaa666> so how can i connect it?
[14:24] <starenka> lianimator: chown root:yourname /where && chmod 777 /what
[14:24] <lianimator> starenka: am I supposed to put that into /etc/fstab?
[14:25] <pen> ubee: hm, how tough is your boss?
[14:25] <starenka> lianimator: no, i just wanted to show the options used
[14:25] <Chaotic_Descent> Slart: I see one nick, one real name. Neither of which is ident settings or the same as my Ubuntu login. I can't find a setting to avoid it using my Ubuntu login name for ident.
[14:25] <aaa666> help meeeeeeeeeee
[14:25] <starenka> lianimator: sorry run the chmod and chown with sudo
[14:25] <starenka> lianimator: ;)
[14:26] <ubee> pen: easy really!
[14:26] <aaa666> any1 plz help me
[14:26] <aaa666> i have USB edge modem
[14:26] <Slart> Chaotic_Descent: ahh.. sorry.. I misunderstood.. ident is a service that runs on the machine.. it just reports which user is logged in and using a certain port number..
[14:26] <pen> ubee: then just make sure it works then you are more than half way through :D
[14:26] <ubee> pen: aye
[14:26] <ikonia> aaa666: stop, you'll get better support if you talk in clear english "anyone, not any1" and if you just ask your question clearly and don't keep repeating with heeeelllpp
[14:26] <lianimator> starenka: /where is supposed to be /media? or /media/disk?
[14:26] <starenka> lianimator: mountpoint
[14:26] <aaa666> okk
[14:27] <aaa666> sorry i am not good in english
[14:27] <aaa666> sorry for that
[14:27] <Jimmey> Jimmey: My computer just shut itself down while I was writing a .iso file to /dev/sdb1. Now when I restart /dev/sdb1 HDD won't mount at all, and I can't even run FSCK. What should I do?
[14:27] <ikonia> aaa666: don't worry,
[14:27] <Wolfie_> Afternoon all
[14:27] <Slart> Chaotic_Descent: are you sure you have an ident service running?
[14:27] <aaa666> i have USB Edge modem
[14:27] <Chaotic_Descent> Slart: all I know is I want to avoid my Ubuntu user name being put on the internet. I wonder if anything other than IRC uses it... like my web browser. :(
[14:27] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: I've told you your username is not used
[14:27] <lianimator> starenka: oh, must be /dev/sdb1 then?
[14:27] <Wolfie_> I've just installed PHPMyAdmin on Ubuntu Server 8.10 and it gave me some options when it installed
[14:28] <aaa666> under network tools its shows my APN name Service provider name and country
[14:28] <Wolfie_> I set the wrong options and need to go back and do it again, but it won't give me the options again
[14:28] <Wolfie_> Any ideas?
[14:28] <aaa666> so how can i connect it now?
[14:28] <oskar-> negge:  "<command> | mail -s 'A subject' recipient@box"  will mail the standard output of "command" as content of the mail. the needed package is named "mailx", i think
[14:28] <timri> aaa666: http://polishlinux.org/linux/ubuntu/three-uk-3g-modem-in-ubuntu-linux/
[14:28] <Chaotic_Descent> ikonia: where else is it getting my real name? is the result of /whois spitting out my real name only doing it for me and not anyone else?
[14:28] <E90|trucker> :)
[14:28] <cutterjohn> There used to be a bogus ident service available where you could have it always return the same username or list of usernames(random) contained in a flat text file... forgot what it was called offhand though
[14:28] <starenka> lianimator: not neccesarily.... change the ownership/group and permissions and try mount as you tried before...
[14:28] <millertime_018> hey can anyone help me with qemu?
[14:28] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent it's getting it from your machine as you don't have an ident setup
[14:28] <ikonia> Chaotic_Descent: no other applicatiosn will broadcast your username
[14:28] <starenka> lianimator: or you even dont have to mount again it should work by then
[14:29] <immortal> hey
[14:29] <timri> millertime_018: Just ask your question
[14:29] <Static--> so whats the gnome panel icon  for sound named, and how do i re-launch it
[14:29] <Slart> Chaotic_Descent: I don't think your username will be broadcasted by anything else.. I think what you're seeing is just the default nickname in xchat.. it uses the logged on user as default
[14:30] <hmw_> why do some apps show on every workspace, although i set showing only apps of the current? (gedit, skype, file browser)
[14:30] <millertime_018> timri: ok i have vista and ubuntu set up on my computer as a dual boot; can i boot from the first partition, or do i have to make an image? and if i have to make an image, how do i do that?
[14:30] <cutterjohn> Slart:  yes, I noticed on my brand new clean install that X-Chat was defaulting IRC name to user login name
[14:31] <lianimator> starenka: what does root:myname mean? can I do myname:myname instead?
[14:31] <maxbaldwin> #!/usr/bin/python
[14:31] <maxbaldwin> # Let's the user input 2 integers, x and y, and multiplies them together.
[14:31] <maxbaldwin> ###
[14:31] <E90|trucker> Heeelp heeeelp i got a computer
[14:31] <somethingclever> everytime i want to use wireless, i have to type 'sudo modprobe b43' is there any way to make this happen automatically to turn on my wireless on boot?
[14:31] <maxbaldwin> import re
[14:31] <unix> ei guys, how can i make my backup partition auto mount at starts up
[14:31] <maxbaldwin> operation = [M, D, A, S]
[14:31] <FloodBot1> maxbaldwin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:31] <maxbaldwin> x = 'a'
[14:31] <oskar-> Static--:  maybe it is part/show up normally in gnome-panel
[14:31] <Wolfie_> Any ideas how I can reconfigure options when I re-install a package with apt-get?
[14:31] <deever> anyone brought XDMCP over NAT to work?
[14:31] <somethingclever> E90|trucker, be more specific?
[14:32] <erUSUL> Wolfie_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure packagename
[14:32] <timri> millertime_018: Sure, you could do: qemu -hda /dev/partitionofvista
[14:32] <Static--> oskar : it is no longer listed in the panel, and last boot it was defaulted mute
[14:32] <starenka> lianimator: well it menas owner:group  depends what permissions you also have.... try this one to clarify things https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions  3} and 6}
[14:32] <timri> millertime_018: wont work if hibernated though
[14:32] <unix> ei guys, how can i make my backup partition auto mount at starts up?
[14:33] <somethingclever> is there a way for my system to run 'sudo modprobe b43' on boot to start my wireless automatically
[14:33] <millertime_018> timri: will it mess up my vista install?
[14:33] <Jafet> Where does nm-connection-editor write its configuration?
[14:33] <Wolfie_> Thanks erUSUL!
[14:33] <lianimator> starenka: I still get the permission denied message.
[14:33] <Jafet> unix, you can put it into /etc/fstab if you're sure it's always there
[14:33] <erUSUL> Wolfie_: no problem
[14:33] <E90|trucker> No because the connection closed no stinky sockets
[14:34] <timri> millertime_018: No that i am aware of. Of course you can easily use dd to make a copy (image, if you will) of the partition and use that instead
[14:34] <Wolfie_> Worked a treat
[14:34] <unix> Jafet: how can i do that?
[14:34] <starenka> lianimator: read pm
[14:34] <lianimator> starenka: do I have to chown and chmod while it is mounted?
[14:34] <unix> <--- n00b
[14:34] <millertime_018> timri: how do i use dd?
[14:34] <unix> first time to use linux
[14:34] <UnknownUser56> After installing ubuntu ( 8.10 ) from the live CD grub is not loading ,but it is installed under /boot .I used the live cd with the help of wubi setting up the booting process ,now whenever I remove the the installation,the boot menu to chose from which OS to boot does not appear ( because Windows is only detected ) .Anywho my question is how do I make it so that I am dropped to a grub console first ?
[14:34] <oskar-> somethingclever:  yes, fill "b43" in a line into /etc/modules
[14:34] <Slart> ok, here's something weird I can't figure out.. if I run "sudo tcpick -yP | grep -i 'ubuntu'" in a terminal I get a line every time someone says something in the channel.. but if I run "sudo tcpick | grep -i 'ubuntu' | grep -i 'bun' " I get nothing.. shouldn't the 'bun' in ubuntu give me a match?
[14:35] <Jafet> UnknownUser56, tried reinstalling grub manually using grub-install?
[14:35] <Jafet> UnknownUser56, it would seem that the MBR still has the Windows bootloader in it.
[14:35] <timri> millertime_018: sudo dd if=/dev/partitiontovista of=mycopyofvista.img
[14:36] <Wolfie_> Using Ubuntu Server, is there a way of running an application and then being returned to the command-line without having to wait for it to finish?
[14:36] <Slart> Wolfie_: put a & at the end
[14:36] <Jafet> unix, [ls /etc]; then [sudo cp fstab fstab.backup] just in case, and then [sudo <your-favorite-text-editor> fstab]
[14:36] <millertime_018> timri: well i tried the hda/dev/1 and hda/dev/0 on my qemu launcher and it didn't work
[14:36] <Wolfie_> Cheers Slart
[14:36] <hmw_> Slart is the missing -yP in the second call just a typo in this channel, or did you issue it like that?
[14:36] <somethingclever> oskar-, TY sir
[14:36] <timri> Wolfie_: End the command with an ampersand (&)
[14:37] <oskar-> Slart:  another difference is the missing "-yP", but i don't know if thats relevant ;)
[14:37] <kharloss> hi . i want to host 5 websites , i need a GPL solution doing this. sites, mail, myaql, webmail quota ...  any solution ?
[14:37] <timri> millertime_018: those unlikely to be valid paths to devices
[14:37] <Slart> hmw_: ah.. my bad... it's the same command.. but with the added pipe to grep
[14:37] <UnknownUser56> Jafet:How do I replace the MBR ? ( I already did sudo grub ,find etc,root,setup ,with no evail)
[14:37] <Slart> oskar-: my bad.. it's the same command except for the second grep thingy
[14:37] <millertime_018> timri: well i've done it before but the window would just die while vista was loading
[14:38] <hmw_> Slart it should give you a result, because bun is within ubuntu. strange...
[14:38] <Jafet> UnknownUser56, I imagine you would use grub-install to actually put grub in the MBR.
[14:38] <oskar-> kharloss:  "sudo apt-get install apache postfix mysql squirrelmail" ... ;-)
[14:38] <timri> millertime_018: You gave it enough memory?
[14:38] <millertime_018> timri: yes
[14:38] <Slart> hmw_: yes.. that seems to be the way it works if I use for example the output from ls.. but not when I use the output from tcpick
[14:39] <timri> millertime_018: I mean with -m 1024 or something?
[14:39] <erUSUL> UnknownUser56: what do you want to replace and what do you want to replace it with ?
[14:39] <Slart> hmw_: I'm not sure if it's because tcpick doesn't finish.. don't know what it's called
[14:40] <timri> millertime_018: If nothing else works you could of course create an empty image and install Vista into it
[14:40] <oskar-> Slart:  try: sudo tcpick -yP 2>&1 | grep -i "Ubuntu" | grep -i "bun"
[14:41] <millertime_018> timri: adam@AcerLaptop:~$ sudo dd if=/dev/1of=Vistaimage.img
[14:41] <millertime_018> [sudo] password for adam:
[14:41] <millertime_018> dd: opening `/dev/1of=Vistaimage.img': No such file or directory
[14:41] <scopecreep> Im trying to mount a windows share, but when I do i cant read any of the files. any ideas?
[14:41] <millertime_018> timri: my vista partition is simply the first partition. it's named ACER
[14:41] <UnknownUser56> scopecreep:Get the ntfs-3g drivers
[14:41] <oskar-> Slart:  maybe tcpick is giving the output on stderr and not through grep? oh, but, hm, it then should although be the same result...
[14:41] <timri> millertime_018: WHAT? you dont dd INTO a dev file JEBUS
[14:42] <scopecreep> its actually on a nslu2 samba share, i can see the files but not open them
[14:42] <timri> millertime_018: Oh I misread You're missing a space there :)
[14:42] <millertime_018> timri: whats jebus?
[14:42] <UnknownUser56> erUSUL:I want to load grub first as the Windows bootloader is apparently still on the MBR
[14:42] <webas> hello..how to install newest open office?
[14:42] <visof> the sound is stopped suddenly , i don't know what is the  problem and what should i do ?
[14:42] <millertime_018> timri: ok... if you will type the exact command
[14:42] <jensp> hey there, does the installer support having crypted root and dual booting with windows?
[14:42] <timri> millertime_018: Forget that remark. You'are missing a space I think
[14:42] <erUSUL> UnknownUser56: the instructions to restore grub after installing windows did not work??
[14:42] <millertime_018> does it work with "dev/1"
[14:43] <Slart> oskar-: ah.. I think I may have found something.. I ran this command instead "cat /dev/urandom | hex | grep -i '01 23' | grep -i '01 '" .. and the output seems to be coming in bursts.. not line by line.. I think the second grep is waiting for the first grep to output a number of lines before it starts processing it
[14:43] <UnknownUser56> erUSUL:Well .. I haven't taken a look because I installed Ubuntu later .. hmm let me check
[14:43] <UnknownUser56> !grub
[14:43] <subflux> Hi, when installing mysql-server via apt-get install, on my fresh install of the latest ubuntu server, apt installs (5.0.67-0ubuntu6) by default. How can I tell it to install the previous version of mysql server?
[14:43] <timri> millertime_018: Doubtful. it should be called /dev/sda1 or something
[14:43] <Jafet> webas, sudo apt-get install openoffice.org ?
[14:44] <TitoN-> hey anyone know when the nvidia 96.43.09 driver will leave the beta stage?
[14:44] <oskar-> Slart:  i remember some option of tcpdump, that switches between something like buffered and unbuffered output, which was needed with piping to awk
[14:44] <visof> what should i do please ?
[14:44] <oskar-> Slart:  it might be similar to that
[14:44] <Slart> oskar-: that sounds right.. I'm looking through the grep manual now.. see if there are any switches for it
[14:44] <webas> jafet - it installs same 2.4version not 3.0
[14:45] <RenzoreK> I am having trouble hibernating and suspending my PC in Intrepid Ibex. I have searched google but haven't found many solutions, anyone able to fix their suspend/hibernate?
[14:45] <millertime_018> timri: dude what do i type into the hard disk 0 place in qemu launcher
[14:45] <tonyyarusso> webas: add "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main"
[14:46] <astra-xwork> What was that online storage solution that had a linux client that was pretty popular on digg and /. ?
[14:46] <webas> im on hardy
[14:46] <Slart> oskar-: ah.. there is a switch for grep, --line-buffered, that reads every line for itself.. that made it work
[14:46] <JonathanEllis> ikonia: I am trying to get the two screens thing working but I am a bit confused. I will be very grateful for your help, please. I am following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773624. I have followed sub-steps 4.1 thru 4.3 as I have two separate graphics adapters. The output of sub-step 4.1 and my xorg.conf are at http://pastebin.com/d79dfb69b. My first question: lspci returns plain numbers without the PCI: prefix so I have just put the pl
[14:46] <timri> millertime_018: Ermmm... I do not know how your partitions are laid out. Try /dev/sda1
[14:46] <oskar-> Slart:  ok, very good
[14:46] <visof> isn't there anyone read my problem ?
[14:47] <ikonia> JonathanEllis: can you give me, 5 - 10 minutes
[14:47] <Slart> oskar-: thanks for the help
[14:47] <tonyyarusso> webas: then just change it to hardy
[14:47] <JonathanEllis> ikonia: Certainly!
[14:47] <oskar-> Slart:  no problem...
[14:47] <Jafet> !sound
[14:47] <tonyyarusso> webas: actually, wait
[14:47] <tonyyarusso> webas: Nope, can't get it on Hardy that way.
[14:47] <ogzy> what was the command that apt says when the installation of a package is interrupted at a stage, it was ending with -a
[14:48] <webas> lol slart im noob.. and all i can do is to install something automatically..not download sources or compile it.. im noob.. remember ;)
[14:48] <millertime_018> timri: adam@AcerLaptop:~$ sudo dd if=/dev/sda1 of=Vistaimage.img
[14:48] <webas> i downloaded full 140mb from openoffice.org :) as tar.gz extracted but still.. :|
[14:48] <millertime_018> timri: and now its working a whole lot...
[14:48] <SuperNick> where do i set ll='ln -s' on ubuntu ?
[14:48] <rdz> hi all. i am on new macbook pro and i encountered, that cpu frequency scaling isn't working correctly.. the smallest available frequency is 1596MHz. i am sure it is lower on Mac OS X and i also think, that is one of the reasons, why ubuntu is using much more power than OS X
[14:48] <tonyyarusso> webas: That's pretty much the answer.  Why do you need 3.0.0 ?
[14:48] <Slart> webas: hmm.. was that meant for me?
[14:48] <SOURdiesel> can i install flash 10 without uninstalling flash 9?
[14:48] <timri> millertime_018: That will take a while (copy of your vista partition)
[14:48] <lorenzo> hi, whenever I open FIrefox, the window opens without the title bar. If I hit F11 it goes to fullscreen, if I hit F11 again the title bar appears. It doesnt happen with other windows. Can anyone help me please? It is very annoying. Thanks.
[14:49] <TitoN-> hey anyone know when the nvidia 96.43.09 driver will leave the beta stage?
[14:49] <Slart> SOURdiesel: I don't think so
[14:49] <oskar-> ogzy:  and something with dpkg, i think, maybe dpkg-reconfigure...
[14:49] <r3zurector> Yo
[14:49] <scopecreep> im mounting a cifs share and i see the files, but i cant read them. what do my permissions need to be
[14:49] <millertime_018> timri: well where will it be copied to?
[14:49] <webas> well its a bit difference i suppose from 2.4 to 3.0 is a big gap..
[14:49] <r3zurector> Anyone have any idea why if I add 4 workspaces and desktop cube I only get 2 spaces?
[14:49] <ogzy> oskar-, yes it was reconfigrung something but what
[14:49] <r3zurector> If I turn desktop cube off I can get 4 workspaces.
[14:49] <ogzy> oskar-, yes it was reconfigring something but what
[14:49] <timri> millertime_018: to the image called Vistaimage.img
[14:49] <SOURdiesel> Slart: thanks.  going to google how to uninstall flash 9
[14:49] <webas> and if they are the same there would be no need to name it as 3.0 ..so i think its new and better :) thats why its 3.0 :)
[14:49] <Slart> scopecreep: check regular permissions and permissions in samba.. they all have to be right for you to be able to read the file
[14:49] <timri> gtg
[14:50] <oskar-> ogzy:  perhaps "dpkg-reconfigure -a"? read the man page to find out, what it does. i can't atm, because i run gentoo ;)
[14:50] <scopecreep> its not the samba permissions, ive  already established that
[14:50] <tonyyarusso> webas: If there isn't a particular feature or bug fix that you need, why waste your time trying to get it?  Just "oooooh shiny new version" lust?
[14:50] <Slart> SOURdiesel: if you installed it from the repos it's just "sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree" or "sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nongree"
[14:50] <Slart> webas: oh.. you'll get burned very badly if you keep believing that one =)
[14:50] <UnknownUser56> Just a quick question -- grub > boot(hdX) <- let's say has ubuntu installed ,is it the right command to boot ?
[14:50] <millertime_018> timri: where will the copy be placed?
[14:50] <Wolfie_> My server is set up on my home network as 'mainserver', but none of the other computers can connect to the web server by connecting to http://mainserver/ . I instead have to use http://192.168.1.100. Can anyone think of an easy way of allowing me to use the server name?
[14:50] <Slart> !best
[14:51] <r3zurector> Anyone have any idea?
[14:51] <SOURdiesel> Slart: i installed flash 9 by sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[14:51] <tonyyarusso> Wolfie_: add it to /etc/hosts
[14:51] <millertime_018> oh, in my home folder lol
[14:51] <Slart> SOURdiesel: then you can just change "install" to "remove"
[14:51] <tat-> Wolfie_: install samba
[14:51] <SOURdiesel> Slart: sweet.  thanks.
[14:51] <tonyyarusso> lol overkill tat-
[14:51] <webas> if they decided to name it as 3.0 and not 2.5 or 2.6..then there must be worth to get that new version.. sure i can keep going with 2.4 :)
[14:51] <tat-> tonyyarusso: true
[14:52] <Slart> SOURdiesel: or "purge" if you want to remove all configuration files that came with it too.. might not be useful for this package but perhaps some other time
[14:52] <erUSUL> Wolfie_: add it to the /etc/hosts file in every computer
[14:52] <Wolfie_> erUSUL, is there no way of having the other computers pick up on this without adding it to every hosts file?
[14:53] <erUSUL> Wolfie_: yep setting up a name server but that's not "easy"
[14:53] <tonyyarusso> Wolfie_: you could add it to the router also
[14:53] <hf> hi, i'm using ubuntu 8.10. i have a sound related problem. i can't play sound at all.
[14:53] <tat-> Wolfie_: are the other computers windows or linux?
[14:53] <tonyyarusso> Wolfie_: depending on how smart your router is
[14:53] <Wolfie_> tonyyarusso, I was looking for an option to add it to the router but couldn't find one
[14:53] <Wolfie_> It's a piece o' ---- Netgear router! :P
[14:53] <erUSUL> Wolfie_: maybe your router (if you have one) can act as nameserver easily
[14:54] <tat-> if they are ubuntu-machines they should pick up the hostname using avahi
[14:54] <hf> in the sound preferences tab, i've tried everything possible. nothing works.
[14:55] <linux_user400354> whats the difference between the vim-gnome and the vim-gtk packages in ubuntu 8.10?
[14:55] <amikrop> Hello. I booted an Ubuntu 8.10 CD but it runs veeeery veeery slow. I wonder if the fault is on the fact that I burned the ISO with 10x speed.
[14:56] <subflux> can anyone give a quick link that'll show me how to install an older version of MySQL server than is included with the current Ubuntu Server release?
[14:56] <amikrop> And not with 52x speed, that is written on the CD.
[14:56] <subflux> the previous version to (5.0.67-0ubuntu6) would be excellent
[14:56] <tonyyarusso> amikrop: What are the specs of the machine you're running on?  (burn speed has nothing to do with run speed)
[14:56] <C0p3rn1c> how do I change my automount settings ?
[14:57] <C0p3rn1c> my usb hdd isnt recieving the right params
[14:57] <amikrop> tonyyarusso: <N>x (e.g. 52x) means *burn* speed?
[14:57] <oskar-> linux_user400354:  the dependency to gnome/gtk and only gtk on the other side, i think. maybe also the "look&feel"
[14:57] <C0p3rn1c> rights*
[14:57] <tonyyarusso> amikrop: yup - just tells you how long it will take to create the CD, nothing more.
[14:57] <Maveas> How do I reload wlan drivers in terminal?
[14:58] <Maveas> It's modprobe rt61 right?
[14:58] <millertime_018> timri: ok i got it figured out, it placed it in my home folder
[14:58] <amikrop> tonyyarusso: OK. My specs are quite fine. I have ran Ubuntu 8.10 here, before, succesfully.
[14:58] <Maveas> Do I have to logout and then login before it works?
[14:58] <millertime_018> timri: thanx a lot man
[14:58] <Maveas> I dont get it
[14:58] <erUSUL> Maveas: well if you want to reload them you have to unload them first
[14:58] <Maveas> Which I did with rmmod rt61pci
[14:58] <Stalker72> I get sound everywhere but in Flash movies. What do I do? (Speakers: Bose Companion 5... Connected by USB... "Bose Corporation Bose USB Audio USB Audio (OSS)" under Sound playback... ALSA under Sound capture... "Bose USB Audio (Alsa mixer) under Device...) Please help!
[14:58] <erUSUL> Maveas: ok then the command is ok
[14:58] <sambagirl> what is the project name for the screen savers for ubuntu?
[14:59] <amikrop> tonyyarusso: 1GB RAM, 2GHz speed
[14:59] <oskar-> Maveas:  "sudo modprobe -r ..." and then loading again "sudo modprobe ..."
[14:59] <Maveas> Hmm
[14:59] <sambagirl> i wanted to get involved in that.
[14:59] <erUSUL> xscreensaver
[14:59] <tonyyarusso> amikrop: Hmm, that should be okay - will always be slower than installed, but certainly bearable.
[14:59] <Maveas> oskar-: yeah, just did, now it's working just fine.. weird :S thanks :)
[14:59] <sambagirl> ahh thanks arusul
[14:59] <webas> so there is no easy way to install open office 3.0 ? thats not nice
[15:00] <Stalker72> I get sound everywhere but in Flash movies. What do I do? (Speakers: Bose Companion 5... Connected by USB... "Bose Corporation Bose USB Audio USB Audio (OSS)" under Sound playback... ALSA under Sound capture... "Bose USB Audio (Alsa mixer) under Device...) Please help!
[15:00] <oskar-> Stalker72:  try to switch to alsa instead of pulseaudio
[15:00] <amikrop> tonyyarusso: The time from the start of the CD, to the main menu (install, try, memtest, help, etc...) was about 4 minutes.
[15:00] <visof> how can i reconfigure the sound card ?
[15:00] <erUSUL> webas: there is some ppa with oo.org 3.0 if you want to try
[15:00] <erUSUL> !ppa | webas
[15:00] <visof> or reinstall it ?
[15:00] <tonyyarusso> webas: There is the easy and proper way, and there is the "OMGZ I have to have the latest" way.  They are not the same.
[15:00] <Stalker72> oskar-: How?
[15:00] <amikrop> tonyyarusso: And the main menu dod not appear at once, first, the Ubuntu logo, then, after 30 seconds, the menu options, slowly.
[15:00] <tonyyarusso> erUSUL: he wants it for Hardy
[15:01] <erUSUL> tonyyarusso: ooops i see
[15:01] <amikrop> tonyyarusso: How can I test if the CD has been burned correctly?
[15:01] <webas> easy and proper way is equal to newest not beta open office version.. :)
[15:01] <tonyyarusso> amikrop: That's just weird...
[15:01] <tonyyarusso> !verifyiso
[15:01] <Dedi> i cant create a 64bit chroot under a 32bit system right?
[15:01] <tonyyarusso> !iso
[15:01] <amikrop> !burning
[15:01] <tonyyarusso> well that wasn't all that helpful
[15:01] <oskar-> !sound > Stalker72
[15:02] <tonyyarusso> although the BurningIsoHowto *might* include verification instructions
[15:02] <oskar-> Stalker72:  maybe that helps (?)
[15:02] <amikrop> tonyyarusso: I have tested the MD5 of the ISO and it was OK.
[15:02] <visof> why the all ignoring me ?
[15:02] <tonyyarusso> amikrop: try running the self-test option of the CD from that main menu
[15:02] <RenzoreK> I am having trouble hibernating and suspending my PC in Intrepid Ibex. I have searched google but haven't found many solutions, anyone able to fix their suspend/hibernate?
[15:02] <windowsgavemeara> what application do i use for prniting photos? also will this auto resize photos to my paper size?
[15:03] <amikrop> tonyyarusso: Well, now, when I eject and re-insert the CD, it says it is blank!
[15:03] <oskar-> visof:  please repeat the question..
[15:03] <Stalker72> oskar-: Can I listen to music in Songbird while listening to something else in Firefox, at the same time?
[15:04] <amikrop> tonyyarusso: Very weird!
[15:04] <oskar-> Stalker72:  should be possible with the default alsa setting, i think...
[15:04] <binarymutant> whats the gnome app called that shows volume on the panel?
[15:04] <visof> oskar- the sound of the system is stopped suddenly and i don't know what is the problem and i don;t know what should i do ?
[15:05] <Stalker72> oskar-: Still no sound...
[15:05] <Wolfie__> Bumchickawahwah!
[15:05] <erUSUL> binarymutant: gnome-volume-control
[15:05] <oskar-> visof, Static-- had the same problem, i think. maybe you can help each other?
[15:06] <visof> oskar- can't you help me ?
[15:06] <binarymutant> erUSUL, thanks, do you know what package provides that?
[15:06] <oskar-> visof:  i don't know much about sound, especially not about pulseaudio, and i am glad that my setup works here ;)
[15:07] <erUSUL> binarymutant: we can find out easily... « dpkg -S $(which gnome-volume-control) »
[15:08] <windowsgavemeara>  what application do i use for prniting photos? also will this auto resize photos to my paper size?.
[15:08] <erUSUL> windowsgavemeara: gimp ?
[15:08] <gnext> any lan scanner software
[15:09] <Jafet> visof, have you read the sound factoid by ubotu? Perhaps switch to a different software system...
[15:09] <visof> i have read it
[15:09] <sambagirl> is this the same ubuntu channel that is on freenode?
[15:09] <visof> hi RenzoreK
[15:10] <oskar-> windowsgavemeara:  "gimp" or simply "eog"
[15:10] <binarymutant> sambagirl, yes
[15:10] <erUSUL> sambagirl: we are on freenode right now
[15:10] <sambagirl> ahh
[15:10] <RenzoreK> Hi visof
[15:10] <RenzoreK> What help do you need
[15:10] <sambagirl> that wubi is very cool.
[15:10] <Static--> is there a way to make the GDM into your lock screen, currently the lock theme isnt even close to whats enabled
[15:11] <Wolfie__> Is there any way of finding out where files have been installed to from a package?
[15:11] <visof> RenzoreK THE SOUND OF MY SYSTEM IS STOPPED SUDDENLY, WHAT SHOULD I DO ?
[15:11] <ikonia> not use caps lock
[15:11] <visof> oh sorry
[15:11] <oskar-> Wolfie__:  dpkq-query -L packagename
[15:11] <sambagirl> i discovered something about the hibernation issue with lenovo/thinkpads you should suppend and not go into hibernation because that function really is a misnomer in alot of way. but suppend works brilliantly.
[15:11] <Wolfie__> Cheers
[15:11] <sambagirl> only on a mac does sleep/hibernation really work.
[15:11] <visof> RenzoreK can you help ?
[15:11] <sambagirl> and an amiga ofcourse.
[15:12] <marco__> nabbend
[15:12] <visof> i did this http://rafb.net/p/qYZMRJ10.html
[15:12] <mircea> !nvidia
[15:12] <marco__> does any speak german ?
[15:12] <RenzoreK> visof: It was working before? But no longer?
[15:12] <erUSUL> !de | marco__
[15:13] <CrocoJet> visof, pulseaudio always went one big problem for me .. also
[15:13] <oskar-> marco__:  yes, but it is the english channel ;)
[15:13] <marco__> ok thx
[15:13] <visof> RenzoreK what should i do now ?
[15:13] <windowsgavemeara> erUSUL:  gimp will print well onto photopaper?
[15:13] <mircea> hi, are there nvidia packages for version 180.08 available?
[15:13] <visof> RenzoreK yeah
[15:13] <binarymutant> whats the app in gnome that displays volume in the panel?
[15:13] <Dedi> is there an advantage with pulseaudio? i see only disadvantages...
[15:13] <msk_> Scrolling is not smooth !! whats the problem ????
[15:13] <visof> it was working before
[15:13] <RenzoreK> visof: Have you done any system changes? Updates?
[15:13] <erUSUL> windowsgavemeara: i do not have experience on the matter i guess that it depends on the printer drivers quality
[15:13] <sambagirl> in doucment viewer the pdf thingy, they dont have the little hand. is there some reason they dont have the little hand to move up and down the pdf?
[15:14] <erUSUL> sambagirl: it is easier to hit Page Up ?
[15:14] <visof> RenzoreK i did the normal updates before, and it was working too
[15:14] <erUSUL> sambagirl: :)
[15:14] <mircea> sambagirl: you might need to click and drag
[15:14] <Dedi> mircea: yes
[15:14] <sambagirl> ok let me try mircea
[15:14] <mircea> Dedi: could you please point me in the right direction?
[15:14] <oskar-> sambagirl:  use the middle mouse button
[15:15] <sambagirl> i saw a little fist for a second
[15:15] <sambagirl> yep that did it. if you dont have the roll you rout of luck i suspect oskar
[15:15] <sambagirl> ubuntu has really grown up :D
[15:15] <msk_> oskar:hi,Scrolling is not smooth !! whats the problem ????
[15:16] <sambagirl> first time i used it was like version 5
[15:16] <sambagirl> hoary something.
[15:16] <millertime_018> timri: ok, how do i install to an empty image with a cd?
[15:17] <Arenlor> hello does anyone know how to make b43 work with 802.11b?
[15:17] <Dedi> mircea: sorry seems i get messed up with the numbers :) just remembered the 80
[15:17] <mircea> Dedi: thanks, my heart started beating faster :)
[15:17] <Maveas> Good, anyone who is familiar with aircrack and injection test?
[15:17] <Maveas> God*
[15:18] <Jafet> millertime_018, mount it as a partition. What kind of image is this?
[15:18] <RenzoreK> visof: Is this for what version ubuntu?
[15:18] <mynyml> anyone else getting the compiz application-switcher bug?
[15:19] <mynyml> it's been reported here, but there's no update to the ticket so far: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/291060
[15:21] <visof> RenzoreK 8.10
[15:22] <metbsd> ubuntu doesn't work
[15:22] <mircea> mynyml: do you have an nvidia card?
[15:22] <UnknownUser56> !ask | metbsd
[15:22] <metbsd> it won't install properly, i've tested with wubi and normal boot disk
[15:23] <metbsd> it's too much graphic
[15:23] <mynyml> mircea: intel, onboard
[15:24] <oskar-> metbsd:  in fact it works in most cases... do you have a special problem?
[15:24] <techouse> is there a special chan. devoted to the ubuntu eee project?
[15:24] <metbsd> no,i burn cd and boot pc, it halts at "scanning mirror"
[15:24] <Pici> techouse: #ubuntu-eeepc
[15:25] <techouse> tnx ;)
[15:25] <Seveaz> metbsd, wait for it to finish scanning, that does take a few minutes
[15:25] <t3mper> metbsd, ...or maybe you did a bad burn
[15:25] <metbsd> i've burned it at least 10 times, got rid of a pile of cd
[15:25] <t3mper> metbsd, sometimes it's better to burn at lower speeds to ensure the burn works right
[15:25] <Saint1993> How comes watching youtube movies is really laggy?
[15:25] <Stooge> lol
[15:26] <Saint1993> the music on the youtube video stop's and start's. And the video glitches
[15:26] <Static--> try a different browser
[15:27] <Jafet> Saint1993, using totem plugin?
[15:27] <Saint1993> im not sure what plugin
[15:27] <binarymutant> what's the gnome volume applet called?
[15:27] <Arenlor> Anyone have any familiarity with b43?
[15:27] <Saint1993> Yes i am using totem
[15:27] <Saint1993> just done terminal.
[15:27] <millertime_018> jafet: do you know what i'm talking about?
[15:28] <Jafet> millertime_018, no, not really. Care to repeat?
[15:28] <millertime_018> jafet: i'm wanting to make a qemu image that i can run from linux from a win xp install cd
[15:28] <Jafet> binarymutant, try gnome-volume-[tab][tab]
[15:29] <darkblue_B> my gutsy machine is at load 1, but I dont see any processes in top doing anything... ???
[15:29] <Arenlor> binarymutant I think it's gnome-volume-manager not sure though
[15:29] <binarymutant> its not :(
[15:29] <binarymutant> it's not gnome-volume anything :(
[15:29] <KatieKitty> darkblue_B: how much ram u have?
[15:29] <Saint1993> So how do i stop the laggy video?
[15:29] <Pici> binarymutant: gnome-volume-control iirc
[15:29] <darkblue_B> KatieKitty: 4gb
[15:29] <oskar-> binarydigit:  perhaps gnome-panel
[15:30] <oskar-> binarymutant:  perhaps gnome-panel
[15:30] <KatieKitty> darkblue_B:  the load is how high?
[15:30] <oskar-> binarydigit:  sorry ;)
[15:30] <JonathanEllis> ikonia: I will be away for a few minutes, just in case you try to contact me while I am away
[15:30] <darkblue_B> KatieKitty: it dropped now, but was doing something.. it was at 1.0 I could  hear the fans, thats why I wrote
[15:30] <Jafet> Saint1993, I've had problems with totem as well with Firefox... you could try vlc plugin, but I just youtube-dl these days.
[15:30] <darkblue_B> dual cpu 64bit amd
[15:30] <lorenzosu> What is the feature in nautilus called for which if I start typing a name files will be highlighted as I type: e.g. if I start typing M-Y-F-I-L-E myfile will eventually be highlighted.
[15:31] <KatieKitty> darkblue_B: as long as it is not more than 3.0 then it will still consider ok
[15:31] <binarymutant> is it gnome-panel only? the volume manager applet thing
[15:31] <KatieKitty> darkblue_B: 1.0+ is quite normal
[15:31] <darkblue_B> KatieKitty: sure, but what was it doing? nothing in top that I could find
[15:31] <Saint1993> youtube-dl?
[15:31] <Saint1993> Download off youtube? If so, How?
[15:31] <Xintruder> hey guys
[15:31] <KatieKitty> darkblue_B: it might be indexing the files....
[15:31] <Jafet> binarymutant, what exactly are you looking for?
[15:32] <Xintruder> which type of ubuntu spanned the most of 2000-209?
[15:32] <Xintruder> was it gutsy ?
[15:32] <darkblue_B> KatieKitty: ok, mystery remains.. thx
[15:32] <^hellfire^> helo
[15:32] <scunizi> how do I share a partition on the lan without requiring any authentication to use it?
[15:32] <Jafet> binarymutant, I don't think you can or should use panel applets from anywhere else than the panel.
[15:32] <Jafet> Saint1993, search for youtube-dl, it's a python script
[15:32] <Python1320> omg python script
[15:33] <oskar-> scunizi:  with what technique?
[15:33] <genii> Xintruder: Probably 6.06
[15:33] <Xintruder> does it have name?
[15:33] <Xintruder> is it gutsy ?
[15:33] <genii> Xintruder: Dapper
[15:33] <scunizi> oskar-, I'd like to use an extra partition I have as a common storage area for the lan.. backup.. files etc.
[15:33] <Arenlor> anyone know anything about b43 or wireless or 802.11b?
[15:33] <Xintruder> Is dapper VERY VERY different than gutsy, genii ?
[15:34] <Arenlor> Xintruder: simply, yes
[15:34] <genii> Xintruder: What Arenlor said :)
[15:34] <binarymutant> Jafet, I'm using awesome and I need something like the gnome's volume applet
[15:34] <scunizi> Xintruder, dapper and hardy are both LTS releases.. miles apart.
[15:34] <oskar-> scunizi:  you can use nfs (3) for it, it has no user authentication features, only weak machine auth.  but you can also use a an ftps like for example vsftpd, or samba for windows shares
[15:34] <Xintruder> ok thanks guys.
[15:35] <oskar-> scunizi: ftpd, i meant
[15:35] <deever> anyone brought XDMCP over NAT to work?
[15:35] <Xintruder> Would u guys know if the latest ubuntu will be able to detect all my hardware and accessories on my vx3 lamborghini laptop? like cam, bluetooth, w/lan, camera etc..... ?
[15:35] <sinuc> just out of the blue, what does apt do if it doesnt find the option "Installed-Size" in the control file?
[15:36] <lorenzosu> What is the feature in nautilus called for which if I start typing a name files will be highlighted as I type: e.g. if I start typing M-Y-F-I-L-E myfile will eventually be highlighted.
[15:36] <lorenzosu> incremental search?
[15:36] <Arenlor> Xintruder, it most likely will but most likely no-one can guarantee you it will
[15:36] <scunizi> oskar-, I thought of ftpd but it needs to be seemless for the other users that are on winxp  .. so would you think a smb mount or the nfs mount would be better.. also if I use nfs what would I put in fstab?
[15:36] <genii> Xintruder: Maybe check Hardware Compatability List. There is also Laptop Testing PAge
[15:37] <KatieKitty> scunizi: i think this may help
[15:37] <KatieKitty> http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/samba.htm
[15:37] <oskar-> scunizi:  for windows users windows shares are fitting best, -> samba
[15:37] <KingOfDos> how can i connect to a wireless network with knetworkmanager?
[15:37] <KingOfDos> it's just NOT working
[15:37] <Arenlor> Xintruder I have two of the WORST pieces of hardware for Linux and it works fine enough with them, so I doubt you'll have much trouble
[15:37] <KingOfDos> and since nm-applet is not available anymore, i can't connect to any wireless at this moment
[15:38] <scunizi> KatieKitty, oskar- k.. thanks for the input.. I'll look at the link.
[15:38] <KatieKitty> scunizi:  theres a tut to make a samba shared folder to be use without login
[15:38] <Arenlor> KingOfDos isn't it located as network-manager-kde or something close to that?
[15:39] <Xintruder> I have installed lots of software on my laptop to make it a development workstation for uni, recently my fan became so noise and is always (spinning) or on if you know what I mean. I am hoping its because of the software I installed! Im planning to install ubuntu at the end of the semester when i dont need the data anymore. Do you guys think if I install ubuntu the fan problem will be resolved?
[15:39] <alice_> f
[15:39] <alice_> a.ayguel@hotmail.de
[15:39] <alice_> ehmmm
[15:39] <alice_> hi
[15:39] <Arenlor> Xintruder what's your CPU levels at?
[15:39] <alice_> wer ist da?
[15:39] <genii> Xintruder: Noisy fans are usually hardware probs and not software
[15:39] <Arenlor> alice_ #ubuntu-de
[15:39] <alice_> kann ma jemand was schreiben?
[15:40] <genii> !de | alice_
[15:40] <alice_> jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[15:40] <Xintruder> core 1 6%, core 2 25%,, not much higher than that Arenlor
[15:40] <alice_> was ist das
[15:40] <oskar-> scunizi:  with samba and free access to shares use in global: security = SHARE, for each share: guest ok = yes, writable = yes, and don't forget to look for the permissions in the file system
[15:40] <KingOfDos> Arenlor: on kubuntu 8.04 i'd used nm-applet all the time because the knetworkmanager (and/or network-manager-kde pkg) is not working
[15:40] <alice_> yes yes
[15:40] <KatieKitty> Xintruder: hard to say, if it is ur CPU problem, the problem will still be there, unless u r using windows when ur fan spin like hell, lol , then it is possible to solve the problem, lol
[15:40] <Xintruder> I know laptops fan, they go on and off from time to time, mine is always on which seems wierd.
[15:41] <alice_> yeah
[15:41] <Arenlor> Xintruder does it turn on in the BIOS?
[15:41] <KingOfDos> since 8.10 there is no nm-applet anymore, so i must use knetworkmanager. after adding my wireless using the "new connection" it's not connecting to it
[15:41] <alice_> oh my god how do you write?
[15:41] <scunizi> oskar-, thanks.. the partition should operate like a nas to some extent..
[15:41] <Clownmite> I have a question: my brother has ubuntu dual booted from XP, and I need to get back into xp - which button do I press while the computer is restarting to get into the menu to choose xp as the operating system?
[15:41] <alice_> it's a streber
[15:41] <mfakhruddin> Are there any Indonesian here?
[15:41] <Xintruder> Arenlor, I will definitly try that. That would help me find out of it is the O/S or the software shouldn't it?\
[15:41] <alice_> yesss
[15:41] <alice_> im here
[15:41] <alice_> and i hate how some peoples are writing here
[15:41] <oskar-> scunizi:  that should be possible with samba and the mentioned options (they were for the smb.conf)
[15:42] <Xintruder> Arenlor, my answer: I dont know. I will try that.
[15:42] <Arenlor> KingOfDos I know in Gnome there is still nmapplet
[15:42] <alice_> aaaaaaaaaaaaa silence
[15:42] <alice_> !
[15:42] <alice_> i kill youuu
[15:42] <DJones> !ops | alice_
[15:42] <clesueur> clown, are you using grub for your bootloader?
[15:42] <Clownmite> I have no idea
[15:42] <mfakhruddin> to All Indonesian: Selamat Malam
[15:42] <Arenlor> Clownmite: esc
[15:42] <scunizi> oskar-, k.. I got lots of reading to do.. thanks for the help.
[15:42] <clesueur> do you get a countdown when the machine boots or does it load linux right away?
[15:42] <KingOfDos> Arenlor: with kde the nmapplet is gone. to bad, because now i've got no working network
[15:42] <Clownmite> ok, ao if I just keep hitting esc while the computer is rebooting, it will bring me to the menu?
[15:43] <Clownmite> loads linux right away
[15:43] <Myrtti> !id | mfakhruddin
[15:43] <Arenlor> KingOfDos have you tried asking in #kubuntu yet?
[15:43] <clesueur> you should get a prompt to hit esc
[15:43] <KingOfDos> Arenlor: 3 times for the past 24 hour or something
[15:43] <KingOfDos> just no response
[15:43] <mfakhruddin> oke ubottu, I will try
[15:43] <Arenlor> Clownmite: it should
[15:43] <sinuc> !channelguidelines
[15:43] <Clownmite> ok
[15:43] <alice_> okay why do you think i shold go
[15:43] <Clownmite> I will try that, if not I will be back here
[15:44] <Clownmite> thank you
[15:44] <Xintruder> Arenlor, am I correct?
[15:44] <alice_> no
[15:44] <Arenlor> KingOfDos: I'm not an expert so I don't know, but have you tried 8.10?
[15:44] <sinuc> !ops | doesthatnowhighlightyouall?
[15:44] <KingOfDos> oh wait, once i'd got a responce. with another repository somewhere on ubuntu.com, but the nm-applet was also gone there
[15:44] <anto924> ciao
[15:44] <anto924> !lis
[15:44] <Myrtti> sinuc: please, do NOT abuse that trigger
[15:44] <anto924> !list
[15:44] <sinuc> omg, is that for having the "admins" being notified when trollwars begins or is this a feature for trollwarss?
[15:45] <sinuc> Myrtti: i wont in future. im jusst curious.
[15:45]  * DBO glares at sinuc 
[15:45] <Arenlor> Xintruder it should let you know if it's hardware or OS yes
[15:45] <KingOfDos> Arenlor: on my work laptop i'd updated from 8.04 to 8.10. so there i've got nm-applet working. but on a fresh install of 8.10 at another laptop, the nm-applet is gone.
[15:45] <Xintruder> Arenlor, thanks man, I will do that.
[15:45] <Arenlor> KingOfDos that's unusual, don't know what to say
[15:46] <Xintruder> Thank you guys, for answering my questions and helping me out. Good luck with all the troubleshooting and good work you do. Keep it up. Bye!
[15:46]  * sinuc reaches DBO his <insert_favorite_drug_here>
[15:46] <KingOfDos> and i tried and tried. but the networkmanager is not working. so i can't connect to the wireless ;)
[15:46] <alice_> i love youu
[15:46] <maxbaldwin> sinuc, quit with the spam. Support channel, not a playground.
[15:46] <KingOfDos> in the beginning it sees my wireless, sometimes. when i say that it must connect nothing will happen
[15:46] <alice_> maxcccaldwin i love you
[15:46] <nickrud> alice_, ease up on the extraneous stuff, or you may get a complete ban
[15:46] <Myrtti> alice_: please behave or I'll have to remove you from the channel
[15:47] <Arenlor> KingOfDos, what card?
[15:47] <maxbaldwin> alice_, yeah, what they said.
[15:47] <alice_> i'am so sexy?
[15:47] <hmw_> ping?
[15:47] <sambagirl> pong
[15:48] <KingOfDos> Arenlor: intel pro/wireless 2200BG
[15:48] <KingOfDos> at least, on my work laptop with both managers (nm-applet and knetworkmanager)
[15:48] <Arenlor> I've not heard any problems myself about that
[15:49] <KingOfDos> the card is not the problem, knetworkmanager is :)
[15:49] <Arenlor> KingOfDos have you considered installing 8.04 and upgrading to 8.10 to get this?
[15:49] <mfakhruddin> Anyone can help me?
[15:50] <sinuc> mfakhruddin: probably not, its a support channel.
[15:50] <Arenlor> !ask mfakhruddin
[15:50] <sinuc> have a good evening you all :)
[15:50] <Arenlor> !ask | mfakhruddin
[15:50] <KingOfDos> Arenlor: to much work. the "fresh" install laptop is of a friend, and he is not here at this moment. so i only can help him by phone
[15:51] <Clownmite> OK, I tried hitting esc when rebooting and that only brought me to a menu where I could choose different types of ubuntu. How do I get into windows xp from ubuntu?
[15:51] <mfakhruddin> I cant hear any sound while playing game
[15:51] <Arenlor> KingOfDos ah ok
[15:51] <corky`> Ok, I can't get X.org to work with my nvidia-glx drivers, And should I rather get nvidia-glx-new ?
[15:51] <corky`> 2.6.24-21-rt
[15:51] <lorenzosu> I can't connect to a windows samba share, I was told by the IT people it's on a blade server.
[15:51] <corky`> ^^^^^ kernel
[15:52] <ikonia> ahh got it
[15:52] <corky`> (Vid card: GeForce Go 6100)
[15:52] <Clownmite> Can anyone help me get into windows xp from ubuntu? What key do I hit when it's rebooting to bring up the menu to choose the operating system? esc only gives me the option for 3 types of ubuntu
[15:52] <Arenlor> Clownmite try this: Applications > Accessories > Terminal when it comes up type in (without quotes) "sudo update-grub" enter your password and then try going through and hitting esc again, it brings up the GRUB boot menu, one of the options should be XP
[15:53] <unavailable> ok, here's my setup, i start my pc. Grub asks me what to choose (ubuntu or vista(loader))  vista loader loads another grub, for special purposes, then prompts to select a windows installation (vista or windows 7)  i want to move the windows 7 entry from the vista loader to the grub.
[15:53] <unavailable> the first grub
[15:53] <Clownmite> I don't have the password
[15:53] <Clownmite> my brother installed linux
[15:53] <SlimeyPete> Clownmite: it's just your normal user password
[15:53] <Clownmite> any way I can do without password?
[15:53] <Arenlor> Clownmite the password to get into linux
[15:53] <biagidp> Hey all, what's the best way to find the owner of a file or directory on the command line?
[15:53] <Clownmite> there is none
[15:53] <Clownmite> it just loads automatically
[15:54] <adeluna> Clownmite, hope your brother doesn't delete the xp partition :)
[15:54] <Arenlor> unavailable, then do so
[15:54] <unavailable> how
[15:54] <SlimeyPete> urgh. Tell your brother to fix the problem then, if he's intent on preventing you from administering your own PC.
[15:54] <corky`> biagidp, ls -al [filename]
[15:54] <erUSUL> biagidp: ls -l file
[15:54] <Arenlor> biagidp try ls -la
[15:54] <Zongo_home> re
[15:54] <Clownmite> he's at school right now
[15:54] <unavailable> windows 7 complains of "bootmgr misssing"
[15:54] <biagidp> thanks all
[15:54] <corky`> erUSUL, Arenlor f1rst!
[15:54] <erUSUL> corky`: XD
[15:55] <SlimeyPete> Clownmite: you won't be able to fix this problem without the password (unless you do complicated things via a liveCD but I don't recommend trying that if you are new to Linux)
[15:55] <lorenzosu> I can't connect to a windows samba share, I was told by the IT people it's on a blade server.
[15:55] <Arenlor> Clownmite what do you need to do on XP?
[15:55] <unavailable> so the real question.  how do i install a boot mgr onto d without modifying c?
[15:56] <unavailable> for vista
[15:56] <Arenlor> unavailable, do you have the vista install/reinstall disc?
[15:56] <Garnol> how can i modify the compiz effects on ubuntu? I cant see any settings manager coming with ubuntu. But i see the effects !
[15:56] <erUSUL> unavailable: ask in ##windows
[15:56] <unavailable> i am
[15:56] <erUSUL> !ccsm | Garnol
[15:56] <unavailable> but thanks
[15:56] <oskar-> unavailable:  that are windows questions, the windows boot mechanism is (sorry) crap
[15:57] <corky`> Damn, I'll ask again, Recently i've been messing around with nvidia-settings and a second monitor, Yet I can't seem to get play doom 3 anymore (OpenGL not found), Yet if I start X without config file, Everything works fine (YET no hardware acc. And no 3d support), I've ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (as root) and I still get the "Ubuntu couldn't find proper drivers" bullsh---, Now, I just want to play doom 3 and what is the easiest way to do that?!
[15:57] <corky`>  :X
[15:57] <unavailable> i know
[15:57] <UnknownUser56> !grub
[15:57] <Garnol> thansk erUSUL
[15:57] <corky`> kernel:
[15:57] <corky`> 2.6.24-21-rt
[15:57] <unavailable> wish it was as easy to configure as grub
[15:57] <erUSUL> corky`: do you have the nvidia kernel odule installed for your kernel ?
[15:58] <joaopinto> corky`, did you checked the hardware drivers application ? Do you have the restricted drivers enabled ?
[15:58] <oskar-> unavailable:  yes, and at least as transparent for debugging (even grub is a bit complicated in that way)
[15:58] <corky`> joaopinto, that app is empty!
[15:58] <corky`> erUSUL, yes
[15:58] <unavailable> lol
[15:59] <corky`> erUSUL, joaopinto brb, X restart
[15:59] <SEMED> #ubuntu-br
[15:59] <joaopinto> corky`, you will need to reboot for the kernel drivers to be loaded
[16:00] <SEMED> #ubuntu-br
[16:00] <krupa^> hello all! hey, is there a some service / utility that can mirror & sync between 2 mysql databases servers in real time? ... thanks!
[16:01] <aantn> !bluetooth
[16:01] <cottima> Hello, I am having trouble with my Toshiba M35X-S329.  It will turn off within two minutes unless I append " acpi=off" to the grub menu.  I think apmd is a possible reason for it.  I also cannot read my battery in " acpi=off", and when I do not append, it tells me the wrong remaining percent.
[16:01] <peepsalot> i used to be able to paste into a terminal with ctrl-shift-v, but it seems this doesn't work anymore.  i recently upgraded, is this something specific to intrepid?
[16:02] <oskar-> krupa^:  i gues you mean replication (i do not know anything of it)
[16:02] <unavailable> your still using 8.10?
[16:03] <sudobash> what should you use if not 8.10 8.04?
[16:03] <corky`> yay, X working at full resolution, But without nvidia-glx drivers... I got nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-kernel-source and nvidia-settings installed
[16:03] <sudobash> 8.10 is working for me... but my friend lost his wallpaper and cant get it back
[16:04] <joaopinto> corky`, you need the nvidia-glx for 3d hw accc
[16:04] <corky`> Or atleast without OpenGL support >_>
[16:04] <corky`> joaopinto, do you by accident know what module to load (in xorg.conf ?))
[16:04] <unavailable> 10.4?
[16:05] <peepsalot> does nano default to wrap lines?  this is asinine
[16:05] <unavailable> sudo update-manager -d lastnight gave me 10.4
[16:06] <GNuBoi> guys how to make font rendering in ubuntu make cooler
[16:06] <lorenzosu> I can't connect to a windows samba share, I was told by the IT people it's on a blade server.
[16:06] <GNuBoi> i mean smooth
[16:06] <corky`> Gnea, "cooler?"
[16:06] <corky`> You mean smoother? System > Preferences > Appearance
[16:07] <genii> lorenzosu: You're going to need more info than that, unfortunately
[16:07] <timri> anyone has ralink rt2500 working after hibernate?
[16:07] <corky`> and then tab to Fonts GNuBoi
[16:07] <lorenzosu> brb
[16:07] <corky`> And you can select rendering there! GNuBoi
[16:07] <GNuBoi> i didn;t get u corky'
[16:08] <corky`> GNuBoi, What do you mean with "cooler?"
[16:08] <GNuBoi> i mean smoother
[16:08] <erUSUL> timri: me
[16:08] <GNuBoi> corky, it is not as smooth as in vista
[16:08] <erUSUL> timri: not that i suspend often but once i tried and it worked
[16:09] <corky`> GNuBoi, yeah, System > Preferences > Appearance and then tab to "Fonts" and look at "Rendering"...
[16:09] <corky`> How precise do you want it?
[16:09] <timri> erUSUL: Ah, thanks. For me it _always_ hangs when I resume the second time.
[16:09] <corky`> timri, "Hangs"? You mean halt :P
[16:10] <timri> corky`: No: Hangs as in events/0 eats all CPU
[16:10] <aiai> hello cab i ask for help?
[16:10] <hwilde> my ipod doesn't work anymore :(   it used to work real good.   dmesg sees it, but gtkpod does not.  please help me i need music
[16:10] <timri> corky`: The moment I modprobe the device it goes 'wonko'
[16:10] <corky`> timri, I had that sometimes with pidgin, over 1.8 gig of memory in use?! :O
[16:11] <lorenzosu> genii, What other info woul be useful?
[16:11] <sudobash> has anyone ever seen the wallpaper not come back in 8.10 after setting do not show wallpaper for Remote Desktop Users... And it wont come back for the local user?
[16:11] <timri> corky`: No, no mem problems just eating gobs and gobs of CPU (and I have no wireless)
[16:12] <corky`> strange, I don't know an explaination though, Not my area :P
[16:12] <timri> corky`: Ah, ok, thx
[16:12] <Garnol> When updating i get an error: it says: "Could not get lock /var/cahe/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)... What can i do?
[16:12] <_cb> I used to have sound now I don't. Other users on the system do. Checked system-->preferences->Sound and they same to be the same for me and other users.
[16:12] <unavailable> close everything but terminal and try it again
[16:13] <SlimeyPete> Garnol: close all apt front-ends e.g. synaptic, add/remove
[16:13] <corky`> timri, no thanks, I didn't help you :X
[16:13] <Garnol> SlimeyPete i dont think that i hvae more than 1 opened. May I restart my system?
[16:13] <SlimeyPete> there's an occasional lock issue in dpkg... I think the bot has a factoid
[16:13] <SlimeyPete> !dpkg
[16:13] <SlimeyPete> hrm
[16:14] <SlimeyPete> !lock
[16:14] <FloodBot1> SlimeyPete: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:14] <rainbowinfinity> hi there, i just upgraded to the new version of ubuntu, and now every time my computer hibernates, it disconnects me from the internet and i have to restart the system to get a new connection...any ideas??
[16:14] <jason_> s
[16:14] <timri> rainbowinfinity: Same problem here (ralinkg rt2500)
[16:14] <timri> *ralink*
[16:15] <pyrak> on ubuntu: is there a quick and easy way to concatenate pdf's?
[16:15] <UnknownUser561> Can anyone tell me if ubuntu is on the boot list ? I can't seem to see it --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/76446/  ( menu.lst )
[16:15] <SlimeyPete> Garnol: try "sudo rm /var/cahe/apt/archives/lock" if you're sure there are no apt frontends open
[16:15] <SlimeyPete> I mean "sudo /var/cache/apt/archives/lock"
[16:15] <rainbowinfinity> timri: i've tried  changing all the network settings and the power management settings, and nothing helps
[16:16] <Flannel> UnknownUser561: It's there, yes.  The first and default entry.
[16:16] <lorenzosu> I can't connect to a windows samba share, I was told by the IT people it's on a blade server.
[16:17] <timri> rainbowinfinity: On my system I can get it to connect if I modprobe the card. But weirdly this only works after 1 resume; the second resume hangs the system
[16:17] <genii> lorenzosu: It would be useful to know: workgroup name      server name which hosts the share     if it uses NTLM version 2 or version 3
[16:17] <UnknownUser561> Flannel:thanks ,I took it as something else .. let me boot to my new OS ;)
[16:17] <rainbowinfinity> timri: same here....
[16:18] <Maveas> Which cmd can I use to see which hardware my computer have?
[16:18] <Maveas> I need drivers for my soundcard
[16:18] <rainbowinfinity> i think that the only solution i have right now is to set my puter to never hibernate, but then the energy consumption goes way up, so....
[16:18] <lorenzosu> genii, oww.. it's a company share
[16:19] <batrizo> hello all
[16:19] <hwilde> my ipod doesn't work anymore :(   it used to work real good.   dmesg sees it, but gtkpod does not.  please help me i need music
[16:19] <erUSUL> Maveas: lspci | grep -i audio
[16:19] <Maveas> Thanks
[16:19] <genii> lorenzosu: Thats not enlightening information :/
[16:19] <Ayabara> In my /etc/fstab I have put "/dev/sda6 /mnt/storage", but it seems to have mounted /dev/sda3 there instead. how can this be?
[16:20] <lorenzosu> genii, In windows I usually access it with \\domain\server\share\folde
[16:20] <genii> lorenzosu: You can try:   smb://username@domain/server/share/whatever
[16:21] <genii> lorenzosu: In Nautilus
[16:21] <quentusrex> Why does Ubuntu insist that I close any application that might be using sound? If I listen to youtube video in Firefox, then Last.fm player get's the 'Alsa sound system is either busy or not there'. Or if I was listening to Last.fm player and I want to watch a video in VLC then I have to make sure all firefox windows are closed and so is Last.fm. Why is that???
[16:21] <JonathanEllis> ikonia: I'm back. Did you manage to make head or tail of my questions?
[16:22] <hwilde> !ipod
[16:22] <lorenzosu> genii, in nautilus it looks like smb:///domain/server/share/folder ... I get a login window but then just an empty window
[16:22] <JonathanEllis> !windows
[16:22] <erUSUL> quentusrex: configure Lst.fm player to use pulseaudio or sed if possible
[16:22] <hwilde> can someone update the bot this link is very helpful for ipod:   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103071
[16:22] <master_alvaro> hello
[16:22] <crushy> hello everyone, i am facing some strange problem, my firefox is opening automatically with a black page, and when i came back many intances are opened already in pc, am not able to get whats going on?
[16:22] <Garnol> SlimeyPete ok after restarting the system the update is working
[16:22] <genii> lorenzosu: Give it a minute or so to populate the list there
[16:22] <hwilde> the only part I needed was the mount options in /etc/fstab      /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod vfat user,noauto,umask=000 0 0
[16:23] <crushy> ﻿hello everyone, i am facing some strange problem, my firefox is opening automatically with a black page, and when i came back many intances are opened already in pc, am not able to get whats going on?
[16:23] <genii> lorenzosu: Also the username@    part is important if the linux username you have is different than the name they want you to logon with to the share
[16:24] <auroojkhan> hi
[16:24] <linuxboy> PAM in hardy is much slower then before
[16:24] <lorenzosu> genii, nothing just blank window
[16:24] <master_alvaro> where i can find "search engine" for ubuntu packages (like packages.debian.org)?
[16:24] <master_alvaro> packages.ubuntu.com doesn't work :-/
[16:25] <Crewsr3> I'm doing a full computer rebuild today from scratch and I want to backup everything to a large external hard drive.  Is there a good program that will make a bit for bit copy of my hard drive and put it on the expteranl without compression.  I want to be able to reinstall and then pull over files and folders with presition not just one big dump
[16:25] <genii> lorenzosu: Were there any contents in the share before?
[16:25] <quentusrex> erUSUL: why does alsa break like that though?
[16:25] <lorenzosu> sure.
[16:25] <linuxboy> master_alvaro: apt-cache search ?
[16:25] <crushy> ﻿hello everyone, i am facing some strange problem, my firefox is opening automatically with a black page, and when i came back many intances are opened already in pc, am not able to get whats going on?
[16:25] <Pici> master_alvaro: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu  if packages.ubuntu.com is down
[16:25] <Flannel> master_alvaro: er, what's wrong with packages.ubuntu.com?
[16:25] <quentusrex> erUSUL: and since alsa breaks, why is it set to be the standard?
[16:25] <hwilde> !sound
[16:26] <lorenzosu> genii, yes I am also using a Windows machine.
[16:26] <DJones> master_alvaro: Looks like the packages site is down at the moment, probably be fixed later in teh day
[16:26] <erUSUL> quentusrex: alsa does not support sound card sharing by default you can use dmix or something like pulseaudio (seems the future)
[16:26] <Static--> is there a way to make the GDM into your lock screen, currently the lock theme isnt even close to whats enabled
[16:26] <genii> lorenzosu: Try f5 to refresh the window
[16:26] <master_alvaro> linuxboy: fail, i have debian, but i must comapre debian unstable and ubuntu packages
[16:26] <master_alvaro> Flannel: "Safari could not open the page “http://packages.ubuntu.com/” because the server is not responding."
[16:27] <cinnamon> part
[16:27] <Ordovician> Where can I get audio drivers to ubuntu?
[16:27] <lorenzosu> genii, no luck
[16:27] <master_alvaro> Pici: thx
[16:27] <erUSUL> master_alvaro: the server has problems wait until is resolved
[16:27] <lorenzosu> Ordovician, You mean for a specific sound card?
[16:27] <Ordovician> Yes.
[16:27] <crushy> hello everyone, i am facing some strange problem, my firefox is opening automatically with a black page, and when i came back many intances are opened already in pc, am not able to get whats going on?
[16:28] <quentusrex> erUSUL: what about alsa-oss?
[16:28] <Crewsr3> I'm doing a full computer rebuild today from scratch and I want to backup everything to a large external hard drive.  Is there a good program that will make a bit for bit copy of my hard drive and put it on the external drive without compression.  I want to be able to reinstall and then pull over files and folders with precision not just one big dump.  The reason behind that is I want to pick and chose what settings I restore
[16:28] <hmw_> i got GTA3 in wine running, but i cant turn around (mouse seems to be moving like on a desktop, not endlessly, as it out to do, like in ubuntu 7.10)
[16:28] <Dedi> i cloned a partition, and now both have the same UUID, how can i fix that? (generating a new one)
[16:28] <rainbowinfinity> when i upgraded to the new version of ubuntu, my puter began disconnecting my network connection  every time it hibernated, and the only way I can reestablish the connection is by restarting my puter....anyone help me???
[16:28] <hmw_> how do i enable "normal" mouse handling for games in wine?
[16:29] <crushy> ﻿hello everyone, i am facing some strange problem, my firefox is opening automatically with a black page, and when i came back many intances are opened already in pc, am not able to get whats going on?
[16:29] <linuxboy> master_alvaro: packages.debian.org?
[16:29] <noriyuki> is there a good graphing calc for ubuntu?
[16:29] <erUSUL> quentusrex: oss is an ancient api that is having a very slow death... lasa porvides oss emulation for old aps
[16:29] <master_alvaro> linuxboy: yes, i know it, i have to compare debian and ubuntu packages
[16:29] <erUSUL> noriyuki: define "good"
[16:30] <master_alvaro> i try use distrowatch, but they lie ;p
[16:30] <linuxboy> master_alvaro: I fail to understand your problem
[16:30] <noriyuki> erUSUL, good = it works!
[16:30] <noriyuki> erUSUL, lol
[16:31] <unavailable> well they didnt like me mentioning windows 7 over there in ##windows.  they think im using pirated software or something.
[16:31] <unavailable> which is illegal
[16:31] <UnknownUser56> Followed the grub installation instructions ,it's the Windows boot loader that's active and it only detects the liveCD boot ( with the help of wubi ) ..do I HAVE to overwrite the Windows Bootlaoder ?
[16:31] <Maveas> What does this mean: [  604.318295] device wlan0 entered promiscuous mode
[16:31] <Maveas> ?
[16:31] <unavailable> it likes to be slutty?
[16:32] <Maveas> ok then
[16:32] <unavailable> !ohmy unavailable
[16:32] <unavailable> !ohmy | unavailable
[16:32] <master_alvaro> linuxboy: i have to do "comparison" (like comparisons on wikipedia), for example: debian have openoffice 2.4 and 3 in experimental, ubuntu have 2.4 by default; ubuntu have cinepaint, debian haven't
[16:32] <noriyuki> erUSUL, do you know any graphing calc?
[16:33] <Guest58830> in Ubuntu, on my laptop, I can't crank up the sound like in Windows, maximum volume is still quiet, HELP!
[16:33] <linuxboy> master_alvaro: ok?
[16:33] <linuxboy> master_alvaro: what about distrowatch ?
[16:33] <linuxboy> master_alvaro: you can do that manually, or write a program to do it for you
[16:33] <Ordovician> How can I see my computers specifications and components?
[16:33] <Crewsr3> I'm doing a full computer rebuild today from scratch and I want to backup everything to a large external hard drive.  Is there a good program that will make a bit for bit copy of my hard drive and put it on the external drive without compression.  I want to be able to reinstall and then pull over files and folders with precision not just one big dump.  The reason behind that is I want to pick and chose what settings I restore
[16:33] <juxo> Hello i'm french, i don't have possibility to get low my sound in ubuntu, but i have sound. When i load music with vlc ans i get slowly sound with vlc then the sound get low. But with ubuntu (thinks alsa ?), the sound don't moove ? help me ?
[16:33] <quentusrex> how can I configure Last.fm and vlc, and firefox(flash) to use pulseaudio???
[16:34] <dta> does anybody knows if i can install ubuntu without a cd ?
[16:34] <Ordovician> Yes.
[16:34] <master_alvaro> linuxboy: they "lie", not all information are true
[16:34] <erUSUL> !info genius |  noriyuki
[16:34] <master_alvaro> linuxboy: for example gcc package in gentoo
[16:34] <Guest58830>  in Ubuntu, on my laptop, I can't crank up the sound like in
[16:34] <Guest58830>                     Windows, maximum volume is still quiet, HELP!
[16:34] <noriyuki> erUSUL, Thanks!
[16:34] <[a1]> SOO WHO IN THAFUCK GIVES A FUCK YOU ARE french ????
[16:34] <linuxboy> master_alvaro: then you must do it manually
[16:35] <slestak> is there an ubuntu channel for netbooks?
[16:35] <perlsyntax> is there away to get python 2.6 on unbuntu 8.10?
[16:35] <erUSUL> [a1]: that was totally uncalled for...
[16:35] <erUSUL> !caps | [a1]
[16:35] <master_alvaro> linuxboy: yes, so i am looking for site like packages.debian.org, but for ubuntu
[16:35] <erUSUL> !language | [a1]
[16:35] <wookienz> Maveas: prmisuous mode is basically searching all channels instead of just sticking on one.
[16:35] <[a1]> lol
[16:35] <linuxboy> master_alvaro: packages.ubuntu.com
[16:35] <UnknownUser56> [r]Followed the grub installation instructions ,it's the Windows boot loader that's active and it only detects the liveCD boot ( with the help of wubi ) ..do I HAVE to overwrite the Windows Bootlaoder ?
[16:35] <master_alvaro> linuxboy: i found packages.ubunutu.com, but it doesn't work
[16:36] <linuxboy> master_alvaro: i does work
[16:36] <linuxboy> master_alvaro: it does work
[16:36] <Vimes> Hello! I just found out about the "alias" command, and I live it. But it says something about me having to edit some bash file to make it permenant (source: Ubuntu forums), really, I love the alias stuff but how to I access/edit the bash kinda thingy and how do I edit it? ( .bash_profile)
[16:36] <master_alvaro> linuxboy: "Safari could not open the page “http://packages.ubuntu.com/” because the server is not responding."
[16:36] <erUSUL> Vimes: put them on ~/.bashrc
[16:36] <master_alvaro> i will try for 5 minutes
[16:37] <linuxboy> master_alvaro: works for me
[16:37] <erUSUL> master_alvaro: we already told you that the server is down and Pici gave you an alternative site. what else do you want us to do??
[16:37] <Vimes> Thanks for the respons, but I'm new :/ ..how do I put them on ~/.bashrc? (please excuse my stupidity)
[16:37] <Guest58830> Can anyone help me with increasing the maximum sound loudness on ubuntu ?
[16:37] <linuxboy> Vimes: open a "Terminal" then type "gedit .bashrc
[16:37] <linuxboy> Vimes: open a "Terminal" then type "gedit .bashrc"
[16:38] <master_alvaro> erUSUL: nothing, but linuxboy asking me about my problem, so i try to explain him, what is my problem
[16:38] <Vimes> THANKS!
[16:38] <erUSUL> Vimes: with a text editor as linuxboy said
[16:39] <Vimes> hmmm.. So I should write the alias'es in the text editor, just randomly and they will work? it says "You may want to put all your additions into a separate file like
[16:39] <Vimes> # ~/.bash_aliases, instead of adding them here directly.
[16:39] <Vimes> # See /usr/share/doc/bash-doc/examples in the bash-doc package."
[16:39] <UnknownUser56> The Windows boot loader is the one active and it only detects the liveCD boot ( with the help of wubi )  apart from Windows ofcourse..do I HAVE to overwrite the Windows Boot loader so that I may boot to Ubuntu  ?
[16:39] <slestak> is it worth using lpia arch for netbooks?  or for deb compatibility go ahead and use i386?
[16:40] <hmw_> UnknownUser56 if you install grub as boot loader, the windows boot loader will be still available, when you select the boot option for windows
[16:41] <unavailable> ok I installed two instances of windows vista home premium that came preinstalled on my pc.  But, I also have ubuntu and grub.  I do not want 2 os choice menus, and I want to use grub to manage my boots.  How can i remove the second instance of vista from the vista boot-manager, and add it to the grub correctly without it complaining about "bootmgr missing"?
[16:41] <UnknownUser56> hmw_:but why isn't the new ubuntu installation being detected to boot from ?
[16:41] <daedalus__> Hi
[16:42] <dcider> just started using xchat, can i turn off joins and qiuts???
[16:42] <hmw_> UnknownUser56 i dont know wubi, so i am not sure. Windows boot loader is not made to start anything but windows. maybe it is just not capable of booting ubuntu
[16:43] <erUSUL> slestak: lpia is for Ibntel Atom cpu so if your netbook has one of those you can use lpia
[16:43] <DJones> dcider: you should be able to right click on the channel name and there's an option to hide joins & parts in xchat
[16:43] <dcider> thx
[16:43] <erUSUL> dcider: right click on the channel "button"
[16:43] <dcider> excellent
[16:44] <unavailable> if its an xp boot loader
[16:44] <unavailable> you can boot to ubuntu with some help
[16:44] <unavailable> let me try and find the tool needed.
[16:45] <Pizarro> Hi all
[16:45] <xai> How do I blank a dvd-rw  that has been damaged? Do I need to re-format it?
[16:45] <unavailable> while in windows
[16:45] <unavailable> http://www.winimage.com/bootpart.htm
[16:45] <Pizarro> I am trying to execute a program but I always get the same error (the file exists and I am in its location):bash: ./pbxctrl-debian4.0-3.0.1.3023: No such file or directory  -- Can anyone help me please?
[16:45] <unavailable> use that.
[16:45] <FloodBot1> unavailable: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:46] <_cb> Used to have sound now I don't. Other users in the system do. Sound preferences and Graphical sound control look the same for me and other users. Any ideas?
[16:46] <Pizarro> The file has executable rights:
[16:46] <Pizarro> -rwxrwxrwx 1 cmrabet cmrabet 8016988 2008-11-24 17:26 pbxctrl-debian4.0-3.0.1.3023
[16:46] <Pizarro> Any ideas?
[16:47] <alx88> ciao a tutti
[16:47] <genii> Pizarro: the version designation looks like it should have a different extension than .3023   ...like .deb or .tar.gz
[16:47] <slestak> anyome using ubuntu on a netbook?  you keeping the lpia arch or going to i386?
[16:47] <unavailable> UnknownUser56: use that pro i posted a link to ^^ up there... then follow the last three steps on this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=327781
[16:47] <unavailable> if its xp
[16:48] <alx88> ragazzi dove si va per la versione italiana?:)
[16:48] <Pizarro> genii, I don't understand, it doesn't have any extension
[16:48] <oskar-> Pizarro:  what happens, if you just enter "bash"?
[16:48] <unavailable> UnknownUser56: or rather the last 5 steps
[16:48] <hmw_> Pizarro if you are in the same dir, you cant start files by just typing their names. you maybe need to type ./PROGRAMNAME to be able to call it from the working dir
[16:49] <genii> Pizarro: Where did the file come from?
[16:49] <Pizarro> oskar-,if I write bash nothing, just another propmt appears on screen
[16:49] <Pizarro> genii,http://pbxnsip.com/software
[16:49] <oskar-> Pizarro:  ok, it was not a good test. look for a command in the file, where bash called with a file as parameter, where the file does not exist
[16:49] <Pizarro> hmw_, I know, I type this: ./pbxctrl-debian4.0-3.0.1.3023
[16:50] <unavailable> UnknownUser56: if all goes correctly, bootpart will save the boot info from the ubuntu partition, to a file on the c drive, then create an entry in boot.ini  (you must have grub installed on the ubuntu partition NOT THE MBR) FOR THAT TO WORK CORRECTLY
[16:50] <hmw_> Pizarro it might be a tar.gz
[16:50] <Pizarro> hmw_, I changed the extenssion to tar.gz but when I try to decompress it I get a file type error
[16:50] <Pizarro> I am pretty sure it is an executable
[16:51] <genii> Pizarro: http://pbxnsip.com/cs410/update-3.0.1.3023.tgz       indicates .tar.gz
[16:51] <erUSUL> Pizarro: «file pbxctrl-debian4.0-3.0.1.3023 » should tell you what type of file it is
[16:51] <UnknownUser56> unavailable : interesting .. I will be trying it out I heard of Bootpart but never bothered ,now I will thanks :) ,but the partitions are not visible ,the ones that are ext2 are ,but partitions with ext3 filesystems aren't visible even with the necessary drivers .. guess I'll be overwriting the MBR ,sadly
[16:51] <NicEXE> is there any tool to write on a video the desktop activity?
[16:51] <SlimeyPete> NicEXE: google for screencasting tools
[16:51] <unavailable> bootpart will see them
[16:51] <Pizarro> genii, well, changing the extendion still getting error while trying to decompress it
[16:51] <genii> Pizarro: http://pbxnsip.com/cs410/update-3.0.1.3023.tgz       You should have run something like    tar -xvzf filename.tgz                       on it
[16:52] <erUSUL> NicEXE: recordmydesktop; xvidcap ??
[16:52] <Pizarro> erUSUL, what you mean?
[16:52] <erUSUL> Pizarro: that command identifies the type of file
[16:52] <mpolo> :-0
[16:52] <unavailable> UnknownUser56: just make sure you have the grub loader installed on the UBUNTU PARTITION before running bootpart
[16:52] <hmw_> erUSUL i couldnt read the chars around the file name... encoding problem...
[16:52] <hmw_> erUSUL what command did you mean?
[16:53] <erUSUL> hmw_: file
[16:53] <Pizarro> genii, error whil decompressing, not tar format
[16:53] <Pizarro> erUSUL, pbxctrl-debian4.0-3.0.1.3023: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[16:54] <Ordovician> I need driver for "nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio".
[16:54] <DVA5912> Am I to infer that ubuntu supports user icons? In the login screen there is a user type thing to the left of usernames. Could that be transformed to show the users icon?
[16:54] <erUSUL> Pizarro: so it is an executable...
[16:54] <Pizarro> erUSUL, it is an executable as FILE command says, however I cant execute it ¿? while typing : ./appname
[16:54] <hmw_> Pizarro are you sure, that bash is telling you, that it cant find that file? maybe the program runs, but itself isnt able to find/access another file
[16:54] <Pizarro> hmw_, let me try that
[16:54] <Shanix> anyone is using UK keyboard and have to press the single quote twice for it to appear??
[16:54] <hololight> This is going to be a VERY broad question... I recently dist-upgraded to 8.10 from 8.04 (The first ubuntu to fully support all of the features of my hp tx1000), I did this against all my better judgment (so i have no one to blame but myself). Now my laptop is running painfully slow. Gnome startup is slow. programs like gedit (of all things) will actually cause the system to become unresponive for upwards of 30 seconds..... any thoughts?
[16:55] <oskar-> Pizarro: for me it look like the file wants to execute shell commands in a bash, but reference the bash executable with a false path
[16:55] <erUSUL> Pizarro: try with bash completion... write ./pbx<hit tab> maybe there is some weird character that needs to be scaped
[16:55] <unavailable> hololight: clean install out of the question?
[16:55] <Pizarro> erUSUL, root@ITE-Server:/home/cmrabet# ./pbxctrl-debian4.0-3.0.1.3023
[16:55] <Pizarro> bash: ./pbxctrl-debian4.0-3.0.1.3023: No such file or directory
[16:56] <hololight> unavailable: for the msot part... i could, but this has been a 'production' machine since 8.04 was in beta....
[16:56] <erUSUL> Pizarro: o.0!!!
[16:56] <erUSUL> Pizarro: nver seen such an error
[16:56] <nomic> i have a dell brand inspiron 1525 with ubuntu pre-installed how do i get a 'live' or an installation disk that is the ubuntu which is on the laptop ... please anyone any ideas i want the same configuration i am putting ubuntu onto another inspiron 1525 (now has vista on it)
[16:56] <oskar-> Pizarro:  try this: "strace ./pbxctrl-debian4.0-3.0.1.3023 2>&1 | grep bash"
[16:57] <unavailable> hololight, you have a seperate /home?
[16:57] <Pizarro> oskar-, thanks, I will try
[16:57] <jeancalvin>  hi, what's a lighter login manager than Gnome manager?  i'm using LXDE as my DE.
[16:57] <hololight> unavailable: nope, the other reason that a reinstall would be quite painful
[16:57] <bscott> is anyone experiencing hangs when running multiple rdp sessions?
[16:57] <unavailable> aah
[16:57] <unavailable> i see.
[16:57] <erUSUL> jeancalvin: xdm ?
[16:57] <Pizarro> oskar-, nothing on screen after that:
[16:57] <Pizarro> root@ITE-Server:/home/cmrabet# strace ./pbxctrl-debian4.0-3.0.1.3023 2>&1 | grep bash
[16:57] <lmartin92> how well does a HD 4650 work with this distribution (as good as a Geforce 8500?)
[16:57] <Pizarro> root@ITE-Server:/home/cmrabet#
[16:57] <unavailable> I shall then defer to someone else...
[16:58] <oskar-> Pizarro:  nothing? hm...
[16:58] <nomic> im wondering how to get a 'live' or installation disk of the ubuntu copy which is on the machine
[16:58] <Pizarro> oskar-, yes nothing
[16:58] <hololight> unavailable: again it is my own fault... even as i gave advise to another to refrain from upgrading.... i did it anyway....
[16:58] <unavailable> lol
[16:58] <nomic> its probably not possible
[16:58] <hmw_> Pizarro maybe try downloading the same prog from another source
[16:58] <unavailable> try  sudo update-manager -d again..   lastnight it gave me 10.4
[16:58] <Pizarro> hmw_, I will download the other version and see what happens
[16:58] <jeancalvin> erUSUL: thakns. what about slim?
[16:59] <oskar-> ok
[16:59] <nomic> in other words what  i want to do really is 'clone' a machine
[16:59] <erUSUL> jeancalvin: never used it
[16:59] <hololight> Does anyone else have a direction for me to seach in? I'm not the kind to ask for an exact solution... just a direction...
[17:00] <sendark> macs can connect to another computer just with a CAT5 cable, without the need of a crossover. Does anyone know how to connect two linux with just a regular cable?
[17:00] <nomic> whats the problem holodeck
[17:00] <hololight> sendark: it all depends on the hardware
[17:00] <erUSUL> sendark: with a hub/switch
[17:00] <hmw_> nomic: to clone, you can simply use cp -a, while the file system is not "alive" (meaning boot from livecd to make the copy)
[17:00] <Pizarro> I GOT the same result, I think something is wrong with me
[17:00] <Pizarro> bash: ./pbxctrl-debian4.0-2.1.14.2498: No such file or directory
[17:00] <erUSUL> nomic: use clonezilla
[17:00] <nomic> ah ok
[17:01] <torgrim> anyone else having a problem with audacious beeing horrible unstable?
[17:01] <nomic> does clonezilla make an installation cd erusul?
[17:01] <hololight> sendark: if the hardware nick supports auto swaping between cross and straight... then you could, otherwise you will need something such as a hub, switch, router
[17:01] <torgrim> segfaults and wierd behavior all the time
[17:01] <oskar-> Pizarro:  type "sh" and then try running it
[17:01] <sendark> hololight, RTL-8139 10/100 card
[17:01] <erUSUL> nomic: dunno really look up the docs
[17:01] <UnknownUser56> available:it does detect the ext3 file system partitions :)
[17:01] <UnknownUser56> *unavailable
[17:01] <oskar-> Pizarro:  does it say "sh: ..." this time?
[17:01] <unavailable> yep
[17:02] <Pizarro> oskar-, sh: pbxctrl-debian4.0-3.0.1.3023: not found
[17:02] <oskar-> Pizarro:  ok, what if you try it with the full path? /home/.... and so on?
[17:03] <deever> anyone who brought XDMCP over NAT to work?
[17:03] <nomic> ty erusul
[17:03] <hololight> sendark: I can't find the datasheets for it.... it may, it may not... work, that is
[17:03] <erUSUL> sendark: " macs can connect to another computer just with a CAT5 cable, without the need of a crossover. " << i really doubt it as the need for a crossover cable is at such a low level hardware level that it is the same no matter which OS
[17:03] <Pizarro> oskar-, the same:
[17:03] <Pizarro> root@ITE-Server:/home/cmrabet# ./home/cmrabet/pbxctrl-debian4.0-3.0.1.3023
[17:03] <Pizarro> bash: ./home/cmrabet/pbxctrl-debian4.0-3.0.1.3023: No such file or directory
[17:03] <oskar-> deever:  it gives many google results, have you checked them?
[17:03] <torgrim> tips for a nonbloated mp3 player that is stable? ;)
[17:04] <erUSUL> Pizarro: if you use the absolute path do not put the . in front of it
[17:04] <oskar-> Pizarro:  remove the . before the /home
[17:04] <hololight> erUSUL: again, it depends on the feature set of the card.... same as some switches/ hubs can auto switch
[17:04] <erUSUL> torgrim: audacious ?
[17:04] <Pizarro> Ok, the samething guys:
[17:04] <Pizarro> root@ITE-Server:/home/cmrabet# /home/cmrabet/pbxctrl-debian4.0-3.0.1.3023
[17:04] <Pizarro> bash: /home/cmrabet/pbxctrl-debian4.0-3.0.1.3023: No such file or directory
[17:04] <deever> oskar-: yeah, but only crap, afais...
[17:04] <hmw_> is it normal, that i cant seek on a DVD with totem?
[17:05] <torgrim> erUSUL: its unstable
[17:05] <erUSUL> torgrim: bmpx
[17:05] <hololight> Pizarro: I'm walking into this halfway through so forgive me..... did you check permissions?
[17:05] <sendark> erUSUL, a crossover cable has the recieve and send pins flipped in order to connect them correctly. But some cards (or some software process) could notice this and just emulate a crossover
[17:05] <Pizarro> hololight, -rwxrwxrwx 1 cmrabet cmrabet 8016988 2008-11-24 17:26 pbxctrl-debian4.0-3.0.1.3023
[17:06] <candive> Hi all, is Limewire Linux? GNU?
[17:06] <hololight> Pizarro: well, that was all I had at the moment... srry
[17:06] <candive> my search was i nconclusive
[17:06] <oskar-> Pizarro:  can you copy the file? "cp -p /home/cmrabet/pbxctrl-debian4.0-3.0.1.3023 /home/cmrabet/pbx-backup"
[17:06] <Claw6> candive: think so
[17:06] <candive> Claw6 thanks
[17:07] <genii> Pizarro: If the object of this entire exercise is to have a pbx type setup, maybe look at FreePBX or so
[17:07] <Claw6> candive, you join gnutella with lime
[17:07] <oskar-> hehe
[17:07] <candive> Claw6: ok thanks
[17:07] <hmw_> Pizarro genii sure, it might be a solution to try another software. but i am curious, what this strange bug is really
[17:07] <Pizarro> genii, this was bought already, so I have to deal with it
[17:08] <candive> I,m gone, thanks again Claw6
[17:08] <hmw_> Pizarro bought? didnt you download from a different source earlier?
[17:08] <unavailable> ok is it possible to use grub to locate a specific file to boot from?  like if its booting from (hd0,1) can i make it search for \windows\system32\winload.exe?
[17:08] <Pizarro> oskar-, I can: -rwxrwxrwx 1 cmrabet cmrabet 8016988 2008-11-24 17:26 pbxbackup
[17:09] <oskar-> Pizarro:  can you now try to execute that file?
[17:09] <genii> hmw_: It is odd
[17:09] <Pizarro> hmw_, we bought the pbxnsip license to work with the pbx,
[17:09] <Pizarro> yeah, it is really weird, this is Ubuntu Server 8.10
[17:09] <hmw_> Pizarro my idea is, that the file might be just damaged
[17:09] <oskar-> hmw_:  he can copy it...
[17:10] <hmw_> Pizarro or not compatible with the kernel?
[17:10] <Pizarro> hmw_, well , I downloaded it from the oficial website
[17:10] <Pizarro> hwm, is Ubuntu 8.10 Server compatible with Debian 4.0?
[17:10] <hmw_> oskar- that wouldnt contradict the broken-file-theory (corrupded elf header)
[17:10] <oskar-> ok
[17:10] <hmw_> Pizarro the kernel your prog is made for is 2.4, current ubuntu has 2.6 i think
[17:10] <Pizarro> Guys, Can you try doing the same in your computers?
[17:11] <hmw_> Pizarro but that shouldnt result in a file not found message
[17:11] <oskar-> Pizarro:  yes, give us the link
[17:11] <Pizarro> oskar-http://pbxnsip.com/software, look for the Debian version
[17:12] <Guest54023> WHAT is a good MUSIC player in ubuntu? like Winamp in Windows?
[17:12] <Pizarro> oskar- PBX  	3.0.1.3023  	2008/10/03  	Linux (Debian 4.0)  	Executable
[17:12] <Pizarro> oskar-, click on "PBX"
[17:12] <Ashfire908> Hi, I'm having trouble enabling my wireless card. I installed the driver, but the wireless button doesn't work (hardware button).
[17:13] <oskar-> Pizarro:  i'll try it
[17:13] <blackpearl> Can i delete the contets of /var folder ????
[17:13] <wesolek> Hello, can anybody help? I have a problem with forwarding windows from another linux/unix machine to my screen. so when I ssh -XC it works fine, but when I try to open a window it says: Cannot open connection to window server: :0 (Server package)
[17:13] <Pizarro> oskar-, Thanks!
[17:13] <cillo> #join so
[17:15] <nikolam> HI.
[17:15] <nikolam> packages.ubuntu.com is down?
[17:17] <hmw_> i can start the executable from my desktop via shell Pizarro
[17:17] <nikolam> Could anyone confirm that packages.ubuntu.com is down?
[17:17] <erUSUL> nikolam: yes it is
[17:17] <nikolam> OK, Now it is working
[17:17] <Pizarro> hmw_, so why can't I do the same?
[17:17] <hmw_> nikola i can ping it
[17:18] <hmw_> Pizarro good question. mybe permissions of the dir??
[17:18] <Pizarro> hmw_, I am root
[17:18] <hmw_> what filesystem
[17:18] <nikolam> But packages.ubuntu.com is Very slow
[17:18] <Guest54023>  WHAT is a good MUSIC player in ubuntu? like Winamp in Windows?
[17:18] <erUSUL> !player
[17:18] <fde> Guest54023: try audacious
[17:18] <hmw_> moon phase? temperature of your fingernail? sry. this is really weird
[17:18] <erUSUL> Guest54023: audacious
[17:19] <hmw_> nikolan you can try a traceroute to see, where the bottleneck is
[17:19] <nikolam> Guest54023, Audacity, ...
[17:19] <Pizarro> it just doesen't find the file, I really don't understant why
[17:19] <matt__> I rememeber reading about a distro designed for fixing windows, anyone know the name? I'm being paid to fix a (severly) screwed up windows pc.
[17:19] <nikolam> Guest54023, Audacious, sorry
[17:20] <fde> nikolam: audacity is an editor, not a player
[17:20] <nikolam> fde, I corrected myself, 10x, I have both :)
[17:20] <Pizarro> -rwxrwxrwx 1 cmrabet cmrabet 8016988 2008-11-24 17:26 pbxnsip
[17:20] <Pizarro> cmrabet@ITE-Server:~$ ./pbxnsip
[17:20] <Pizarro> -bash: ./pbxnsip: No such file or directory
[17:20] <fde> matt__: ask ##linux or ##windows... not here
[17:21] <Pizarro> The file is owned by "cmrabet", and I execute it as "cmrabet" so what the hell is going on here?
[17:21] <fde> Pizarro: are you in the directory where that file is located?
[17:21] <Pizarro> fde, yes: cmrabet@ITE-Server:~$ pwd
[17:22] <hmw_> pwd???
[17:22] <Pizarro> >    /home/cmrabet
[17:22] <oskar-> Pizarro:  do you have a file /proc/net/dev?
[17:22] <fde> present working directory
[17:22] <pfungstadt> has anyone had problems watching certain java based videos on 8.10?  Sites such as cnn, and nfl.com use them.  Their videos are extremely choppy
[17:22] <hmw_> Pizarro if youre root, then youre not in the home of the user, but ~ would be /root
[17:23] <Pizarro> oskar-, yes I do
[17:23] <fde> hmw_: not helpful
[17:23] <Pizarro> hmw_, I can be root and move under /home/cmrabet
[17:23] <hmw_> fde if he tries to start ./file it goes to /root/file
[17:23] <wesolek> Hello, can anybody help? I have a problem with forwarding windows from another linux/unix machine to my screen. so when I ssh -XC it works fine, but when I try to open a window it says: Cannot open connection to window server: :0 (Server package)
[17:23] <hmw_> Pizarro but your prompt tells me, that you didnt
[17:23] <Pizarro> hmw_, ok, so now I will try as "cmrabet"
[17:23] <fde> Pizarro: what is in the file? is it executable?
[17:23] <|unjustice|> Hey anyoe know how to automount a micro SD card? Ubuntu hardy heron is not doing it
[17:23] <Pizarro> fde, yes it is
[17:23] <hmw_> Pizarro just cd or check that youre not in root's home[D
[17:24] <Pizarro> "cmrabet@ITE-Server:~$ pwd
[17:24] <Pizarro> cmrabet@ITE-Server:~$ ./pbxnsip
[17:24] <Pizarro> -bash: ./pbxnsip: No such file or directory
[17:24] <Pizarro> cmrabet@ITE-Server:~$
[17:24] <Pizarro> "
[17:24] <FloodBot1> Pizarro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:24] <oskar-> Pizarro:  i tried it. here it unpacks a lot of directories and files into the current directory
[17:24] <mgolisch> is the file maybe a symlink pointing to nowhere?
[17:24] <Pizarro> I am going to use pastebin guys
[17:24] <mgolisch> or to an invalid / non existant path?
[17:25] <oskar-> Pizarro:  with strace i also cannot find it trying to reference files, that would lead to a "file not found" message of the program
[17:25] <Pizarro> http://pastebin.com/m4e19de09
[17:25] <NicEXE> how can I temporarily disable compiz?
[17:25] <pfungstadt> has anyone had problems watching certain java based videos on 8.10?  Sites such as cnn, and nfl.com use them.  Their videos are extremely choppy.  I have a Dell Mini 9 and installed ubuntu 8.10 on it but the video is horrible...
[17:25] <hmw_> NicEXE install fusion-icon
[17:25] <Pizarro> oskar-, that's what it supossed to do, unpack, but I cant do it
[17:25] <mgolisch> Pizarro: but the file realy exists?
[17:25] <fde> NicEXE: sure... System > Preferences > Appearance ... Visual Effects tab... "None"
[17:25] <erUSUL> Pizarro: haz an "ls -l" to the sequence
[17:25] <fde> hmw_: no
[17:25] <Pizarro> mgolisch, yes it is there
[17:26] <hmw_> fde this would delete his settings
[17:26] <mgolisch> and its realy not symlink?
[17:26] <NicEXE> fde: I will lose my current settings
[17:26] <hmw_> fde he wanted temporary disabling
[17:26] <fde> NicEXE: why would you? they should be under custom?
[17:26] <lorty> French channel?
[17:26] <mgolisch> NicEXE: just replace the window manager
[17:26] <Pizarro> erUSUL, http://pastebin.com/m52f4e7c7
[17:26] <fde> mgolisch: that's what setting it to 'none' would do
[17:26] <oskar-> Pizarro:  you could type "ldd <executable>", maybe some libraries are missing and it has a uncommon way to say it to the user?
[17:27] <Pizarro> oskar-, I will try
[17:27] <mgolisch> NicEXE: like metacity --replace & then disown to disown the process so it doesnt die when closing the terminal
[17:27] <Pizarro> oskar-, cmrabet@ITE-Server:~$ ldd pbxnsip
[17:27] <Pizarro>         not a dynamic executable
[17:27] <erUSUL> Pizarro: i'm officially puzzled
[17:27] <oskar-> ok...
[17:27] <Pizarro> erUSUL, well imagine how I am...I installed this same file months ago in Ubuntu 8.04
[17:27] <mpi> is it possible to know or vote/elect a package to be backported to hardy?
[17:28] <hmw_> Pizarro i am, too
[17:28] <|unjustice|> I have the dmesg | tail -30 output of the microSD card, and it says that it is not write protected, and it is in the locked position...
[17:28] <Pizarro> Guys, How can I know that something is wrong with my BASH etc..?=?=?=
[17:28] <|unjustice|> not sure
[17:28] <piranijus> Hello, i just installed 8.10 Server Edition, and my internet connection is so slow
[17:28] <oskar-> Pizarro:  have you already tried to download it a second time? ;-)
[17:28] <piranijus> What i should do?
[17:28] <jim_p> how can i change my kde apps icons in gnome?
[17:28] <maxb_> mpi: You can suggest, but whether it actually happens depends on how much of the testing legwork you are willing to do
[17:28] <oskar-> Pizarro:  wget http://pbxnsip.com/download/pbxctrl-debian4.0-3.0.1.3023
[17:28] <Pizarro> oskar-. I'll try again
[17:29] <|unjustice|> ubottu: microSD
[17:29] <|unjustice|> ubottu: mount
[17:29] <oskar-> Pizarro:  we can compare also md5sums: d7a305abdc2f4d07d7d701a9b9de4a3b  pbxctrl-debian4.0-3.0.1.3023
[17:29] <maxb_> mpi
[17:29] <erUSUL> Pizarro: maybe try a different shell ... run "dash"
[17:29] <maxb_> mpi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[17:30] <hmw_> Pizarro i'll ask somwhere else, maybe i get a new idea... stay here, brb
[17:30] <Guest54023> nokolam, erUSUL, fde thanks !
[17:30] <jim_p> |unjustice|, you want to mount a wierdly formated sd card?
[17:30] <Pizarro> I downloaded the file again, the same thing
[17:31] <Pizarro> erUSUL, cmrabet@ITE-Server:~$ dash pbxctrl-debian4.0-3.0.1.3023
[17:31] <Pizarro> pbxctrl-debian4.0-3.0.1.3023: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[17:31] <erUSUL> Pizarro: no; run dash then using that shell try ./pbx...
[17:31] <|unjustice|> jim_p: aye
[17:31] <fde> erUSUL: how would that differ from dash cmd ?
[17:32] <Pizarro> erUSUL, cmrabet@ITE-Server:~$ dash
[17:32] <Pizarro> $ ./pbxctrl-debian4.0-3.0.1.3023
[17:32] <Pizarro> dash: ./pbxctrl-debian4.0-3.0.1.3023: not found
[17:32] <Pizarro> $
[17:32] <fde> (hint, it wouldn't)
[17:32] <FloodBot1> Pizarro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:32] <|unjustice|> jim_p: formatted by a phone, I did it automatically before...but I geuss I need a command or something
[17:32] <Pizarro> It just simply doesn't find the FILE¿?¿?¿??
[17:32] <erUSUL> fde: well can a shell accept a binary (note that it is not sh script) from command line as parameter to launch it?
[17:32] <fde> Pizarro: please throw the contents of the file up on paste.ubuntu.com
[17:32] <NicEXE> I just realized that every time I launch some (32 bit) 3d games with compiz enabled the textures get really scrambled. Is there any way to fix that problem without disabling compiz?
[17:33] <fde> erUSUL: based on the original error, I'd suggest its not a binary
[17:33] <Pizarro> fde, http://pastebin.com/m67cc6392
[17:33] <fde> erUSUL: else where would be unexpected syntax come from?
[17:33] <erUSUL> fde: it is an elf static binary according to "file"
[17:33] <endo602> has anyone successfully set up audio with spdif out?
[17:33] <oskar-> Pizarro:  are the md5sums identical? try "md5sum <file>". if yes, try simply "strace <executable>", maybe this gives a hint...
[17:34] <fde> Pizarro: thats not what I asked for... cat pbxctrl-debian4.0-3.0.1.3023 | pastebinit (I think you installed that earlier)
[17:34] <erUSUL> fde: 17:53 < Pizarro> erUSUL, pbxctrl-debian4.0-3.0.1.3023: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for  GNU/Linux 2.4.1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[17:34] <fde> Pizarro: ahh, then nm
[17:34] <jim_p> |unjustice|, give me a sec
[17:34] <jim_p> i am a bit busy :(
[17:34] <Pizarro> cat to 8M?
[17:35] <erUSUL> Pizarro: are you on 64 bit ubuntu???
[17:35] <jim_p> |unjustice|, pm me if you want
[17:35] <NicEXE> I just realized that every time I launch some (32 bit) 3d games with compiz enabled the textures get really scrambled. Is there any way to fix that problem without disabling compiz?
[17:35] <hmw_> Pizarro re... no new ideas so far
[17:35] <CPUFreak91> Evolution keeps giving me a "Cannot write to ~/.evolution/mail/Drafts: Permission Denied" error.  I've tried several solutions on the forums, such as changing the permissions (are writeable) but I still get the error
[17:35] <erUSUL> Pizarro: do you have ia32-lib installed ??
[17:35] <fde> NicEXE: no
[17:35] <Pizarro> erUSUL, I don't know what's that?
[17:35] <erUSUL> Pizarro: it only makes sense if you are on 64 bit ubuntu... do "uname -m"
[17:36] <mpi> maxb_, thanks!
[17:36] <hmw_> Pizarro ldd ./filename
[17:36] <Pizarro> erU
[17:36] <fde> erUSUL: wouldn't that result in a lib error, not a command not found or etc
[17:36] <Pizarro> erUSUL, cmrabet@ITE-Server:~$ uname -m
[17:36] <Pizarro> x86_64
[17:36] <fde> hmw_: he already did that
[17:36] <erUSUL> Pizarro: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[17:36] <fde> hmw_: not a dynamic lib
[17:36] <jeancalvin> ihow can i search my hard drive for a foo.conf file?
[17:37] <jeancalvin> how can i search my hard drive for a foo.conf file?
[17:37] <fde> jeancalvin: locate foo.conf
[17:37] <CPUFreak91> jeancalvin: locate foo.conf
[17:37] <jeancalvin> sorry for dbl post
[17:37] <Pizarro> erUSUL, installing ... 128MB!
[17:37] <fde> !repeat > jeancalvin
[17:37] <jeancalvin> fde: too late
[17:37] <jeancalvin> 8-)
[17:37] <Pizarro> Whating for headers
[17:37] <fde> !enter
[17:37] <Pizarro> now installing
[17:37] <egoleo> hello
[17:37] <erUSUL> !info ia32-libs | Pizarro
[17:38] <erUSUL> !?
[17:38] <Pizarro> ubottu, well I am installing them right now
[17:38] <fde> !search ia32
[17:38]  * erUSUL only 32 bit packages on ubottu ?
[17:38] <deever> anyone who brought XDMCP over NAT to work?
[17:38] <Pizarro> well it is still installing now
[17:39] <erUSUL> Pizarro: launch the binary after installing it
[17:39] <Pizarro> so, the issue is that I am under 64 bits, right?
[17:39] <fde> hmm, packages.ubuntu.com seems to be down?
[17:39] <JonathanEllis> ikonia: Hi. Did you manage to have a look at my problem?
[17:39] <fde> Pizarro: depends if installing ia32-libs fixes the issue
[17:39] <erUSUL> Pizarro: it is a dinamically linked 32bit executable it surely needs the libs
[17:39] <Pizarro> NOW IT WORKED!!!!!!
[17:39] <seven^> when  downloading something, what does OEM mean?
[17:39] <Pizarro> I got all the folders there
[17:40]  * fde still doesn't think that a lib issue would return 'no such file or directory"
[17:40] <fde> Makes no sense at all
[17:40] <CPUFreak91> How can I get Evolution to stop complaining about not being able to create lock files? This is in several email folders, and the address book
[17:40] <erUSUL> fde: maybe the mssing files are the libs ?? but yes a really weird error msg
[17:40] <hmw_> Pizarro has the computer had some hardware issues? power failure or alike?
[17:40] <Pizarro> fde, now it worked : http://pastebin.com/m713536d4
[17:41] <Pizarro> hmw, ist has been on since last November 4Th
[17:41] <fde> What is this pbxctrl thing anyways?
[17:41] <hmw_> Pizarro maybe take a quick look to the logs...
[17:41] <Pizarro> fde,  a PBX software
[17:41]  * fde guessed that much
[17:41] <erUSUL> hmw_: the problem was the shared libs... the binary was 32 bit the system 64 bit . ia32-libs was missing
[17:42] <fde> Still not terribly enlightening
[17:42] <hmw_> erUSUL that results in a "file not found"??
[17:42] <fde> hmw_: apparently
[17:42] <hmw_> erUSUL the header probably fde
[17:42] <Pizarro> fde, it is a software that enables a phone recepcionist in your server, giving you the possibility to have SIP phone communication, PSTN comm, etc..
[17:42] <erUSUL> hmw_: i do not understand it either but it was worth trying; wasn't it ??
[17:43] <DVA5912> Why does it take wine so long to tstart programs?
[17:43] <Pizarro> What I really don't understand is how a hardware error can produce this...also my server has been on since November 4 without any problem
[17:43] <fde> DVA5912: lots of stuff to load
[17:43] <CPUFreak91> DVA5912: They're either bloated, or it's because WINE has to interpret non-Unix code ;)
[17:43] <egoleo> is there an alarm scheduler for gnome?
[17:44] <erUSUL> Pizarro: it wasn't a hardware error after all
[17:44] <fde> Pizarro: it didn't... you didn't have 32bit libs, and that software is 32bit...
[17:44] <hmw_> Pizarro the idea was that the hard drive might be confused or soemthing nevermind
[17:44] <hmw_> fde erUSUL Pizarro did you manage to start it now?
[17:44] <DVA5912> I would think it wouldn't take as long as two minutes
[17:44] <fde> hmw_: yes, his issue is fixed
[17:44] <erUSUL> hmw_: yes after installing the 32 bit libs
[17:44] <fde> DVA5912: what are you trying to load?
[17:44] <DVA5912> photochop CS$, but it does it to every program
[17:45] <Pizarro> Guys, yes now it is working properly
[17:45] <JonathanEllis> Hi. ﻿I am trying to get two screens working but I am a bit confused. I will be very grateful for any help, please. I am following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773624. I have followed sub-steps 4.1 thru 4.3 as I have two separate graphics adapters. The output of sub-step 4.1 and my xorg.conf are at http://pastebin.com/d79dfb69b. My first question: lspci returns plain numbers without the PCI: prefix so I have just put the plain numbers 
[17:45] <Pizarro> After isntalling the 32 libs everything worked out
[17:45] <fde> DVA5912: doesn't here
[17:45] <DVA5912> fde, really? almoswt instantaneous?
[17:45] <fde> DVA5912: yes... but I only use it for PokerStars.NET ...
[17:45]  * DVA5912 thinks it may be something with the settings
[17:45] <Pizarro> But it was a really weard issue, I couldn't figure out that something was wrong with the libs just reading that "file or directory not found" message
[17:45] <genii> Pizarro: If you guys are paying for that app, bug the hell out of them for a 64 bit version
[17:45] <bakarat> ok, slightly annoying...i'm trying to setup a new system with encrypted partitions, but it won't let me go any further cause it's detecting an unecrypted swap from another drive...
[17:46] <bakarat> any ideas?
[17:46] <bakarat> (it's dual boot linux atm, one encrypted, one not)
[17:46] <Pizarro> genii, I will,
[17:46] <Pizarro> genii, definietly
[17:46] <fabouney> hi
[17:46] <blackpearl> Can i delete the contets of /var folder ????
[17:47] <NicEXE> how do I launch compiz-icon
[17:47] <fde> blackpearl: depends what you want to delete... most things in there shouldn't be though
[17:47] <genii> blackpearl: Um, you could but you probably will not want to, there are some important things in there
[17:47] <hmw_> NicEXE should be an icon in Application/System TOols
[17:47] <fabouney> i look for a software wich allow me to cut a part of a movie (such as virtualdub)
[17:47] <Pizarro> guys, thanks a lot
[17:47] <damijit> Hi, I'm using Intrepid, but I would like to use the "Alternate wallpaper" from Hardy (the leathery-looking one). Does anyone know where I can find it? (I've already googled around a bit)
[17:47] <NicEXE> hmw_: its not
[17:47] <blackpearl> fde : thnx for the reply
[17:47] <hmw_> Pizarro yw. i learned a new deatail, and that is good.
[17:47] <piranijus> lol my server downloading 28mb half hour and still not downloaded whete is the problem?
[17:48] <NicEXE> hmw_: ok I fixed it
[17:48] <hmw_> NicEXE try starting from terminal: fusion-icon
[17:48] <blackpearl> genii : like there are cache folder etc  etc. which one  can safely delete
[17:48] <eth01> might be an idea to give it a reboot @ pir**
[17:48] <Pizarro> see you later guys, bye
[17:48] <fde> fabouney: there are a few... kino and pitivi are simple... cinelerra is more advanced, and not in the repos currently....
[17:49] <kwtm> Hi!  Got a question about Abiword here:
[17:49] <fabouney> thanks fde
[17:50] <kwtm> How does one define a key macro in Abiword?  Say I want to insert the date with Ctrl-D (or whatever) without having to press Alt-I, then select date, then deal with the dialog box.  There's some GNOME way to do it but I'm used to KDE. Any help?
[17:50] <blackpearl> I wish to add .torrent files which are stored on my physical disk in transmission....how to do it ? Transmission ADD button is not opening my physical disk ????
[17:51] <yomomma> i got news for you, ubuntu devs can't even get the basic network setting to work properly half the time
[17:51] <blackpearl> {transmission in ubuntu0
[17:53] <fde> yomomma: neither can Windows, its up to the manufacturers and OEM's to install that stuff usually, Linux has a much higher success rate though
[17:53] <piranijus> reebooted system, i get 2kb when downloading file when my xp get 1mb, what is wrong with ubuntu???
[17:53] <fde> yomomma: No OS supports more hardware out of the box than Linux.
[17:53] <eth01> how do you mean piranijus?
[17:54] <eth01> whats your connection speed..?
[17:54] <piranijus> when it was 7.10 i was having 10mb/s
[17:54] <piranijus> today i installed 8.10 and i have slow internet
[17:54] <blackpearl> how can i check IF i am "Root" in Ubuntu ???
[17:54] <yomomma> i'm not gonna argue with that , i'm sure it does
[17:54] <eth01> which mirror are you using?
[17:54] <piranijus> and slow intranet too
[17:54] <eth01> how ABOUT you change to another :-)
[17:55] <hmw_> fde: seriously? i mean "out of the box" rly? not with ubuntu offline
[17:55] <fde> blackpearl: whoami  ... but you should never be root
[17:55] <fde> hmw_: yes... it is fact
[17:55] <DVA5912> Anyone had success installing Dreamweaver 8?
[17:55] <piranijus> i tired download same file in windows and ubuntu
[17:55] <Zzeiss> blackpearl: well, make that "almost never".  If you have to be root, something is already not quite right.
[17:55] <fde> DVA5912: bother #winehq
[17:55] <DVA5912> :O
[17:55] <DVA5912> it runs
[17:56] <fde> hmw_: Windows has comparatively few drivers out of the box
[17:56] <Cobra-the-joker> hey there every one
[17:56] <Cobra-the-joker> i am here having fedora linux
[17:56] <fde> hmw_: OS X is second
[17:56] <hmw_> fde hmm... if you say so... its just my currend bad expirience
[17:56] <GeorgeAScott> how long before petabyte disks are available
[17:57] <fde> GeorgeAScott: I think there are some, but they're in the multiple thousands currently
[17:57] <Cobra-the-joker> but i heard that ubu is recommended by my laptop firm here
[17:57] <hmw_> fde i dont get my video banshee up since i upgraded
[17:57] <Cobra-the-joker> so i wanted to know some stuff before involving into ubu ...pls help
[17:57] <GeorgeAScott> fde: would the current ubuntu support them without hassle?
[17:57] <fde> hmw_: ok, that is one card that one driver supports...
[17:58] <fde> GeorgeAScott: sure... it currently supports up to 16 terrabytes in ext3
[17:58] <hmw_> fde this shouldnt become an argument, but more a request for help *g*
[17:58] <Cobra-the-joker> is it more powerfull than fedora ..or same ...or least ....and what about wireless broadcom configuration
[17:58] <GeorgeAScott> fde: now who really needs 16tb?
[17:58] <fde> hmw_: Nvidia Banshee right? Or am I mistaken?
[17:59] <hmw_> fde the card doenst even initialize anymore... buntu hangs if i try to use tdfx
[17:59] <toehio> what does this mean and what should i do? "The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libpar-packer-perl: Depends: libpar-perl (>= 0.977) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages
[17:59] <blackpearl> is anybody using "Transmission" for .torrent files ????
[17:59] <hmw_> fde it worked in 7.10
[17:59] <fde> GeorgeAScott: Large companies need much more than that... imagine google or yahoo having less than 10x that
[17:59] <genii> GeorgeAScott: You'd be surprised how fast terabytes can get chewed up
[17:59] <fde> hmw_: great, that isn't relevant
[17:59] <GeorgeAScott> blackpearl: i've used transmission before.
[18:00] <piranijus> RX packets:991 errors:88 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:88
[18:00] <piranijus> TX packets:894 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[18:00] <piranijus> There is wired connection why there is so many errors?
[18:00] <fde> GeorgeAScott: (for what its worth, both Yahoo and Google do indeed use Linux extensively, so its not just an example I pulled out of the air)
[18:00] <hmw_> fde why? i think, it had worked, so it should still do... or do i have to wait, until the work in tdfx goes on until it will work again some day?
[18:00] <GeorgeAScott> blackpearl; with success.. would still be using it but im "tethered" and my provider will supposedly rip me a new one if im caught using data that way.
[18:00] <fde> hmw_: is it ati or nvidia?
[18:00] <fde> hmw_: a lot has changed in the world of xorg since then... so its not relevant.
[18:01] <hmw_> fde 3dfx Interactive Voodoo Banshee
[18:01] <blackpearl> GeorgeAScott : in transmission (in Ubuntu) it is saying permission denied for .torrent files BUT in Windows it is woking fine (with uTorrent)
[18:01] <dcider> blackpearl: i use ktorrent
[18:01] <hmw_> fde i will have to install 7.10 again, if i cant fix it, because i need that extra screen
[18:02] <mgolisch> blackpearl: it says that when doing what exactly?
[18:02] <dcider> didnt like transmission
[18:02] <dcider> limited settings
[18:02] <GeorgeAScott> blackpearl:  i installed utorrent thru wine.
[18:03] <pen> is there a tutorial on xsession?
[18:03] <pen> I don't know how to make it work
[18:03] <blackpearl> mgolisch : when i add .torrent file in transmssion and click start (after few seconds it says so)
[18:03] <pen> !xsession
[18:03] <mgolisch> blackpearl: maybe it tries to save it somewhere you dont have write access to?
[18:04] <blackpearl> GeorgeAScott : i dont know how to install uTorrent thru wine, BUt i wnt to use Transmission
[18:04] <beast> Deluge is a good bittorrent client
[18:04] <mgolisch> yeah deluge is great
[18:04] <mgolisch> thats what i use too
[18:04] <pen> is there a xsession tutorial?
[18:04] <mgolisch> pen: xsession?
[18:04] <mgolisch> whats that?
[18:05] <xjk1> i ran apt-get install ethereal, and i got a ethtool or something, where is the gui ethereal ? running ethereal in console doesnt work
[18:05] <hmw_> fde irrelevant, because the card is old and xorg modern, and there is nobody to fix such an old driver? or did you mean something else?
[18:05] <blackpearl> mgolisch : may be you are right...how can i check if a folder i am saving to have read-write permission AND if i dont have permission how can i change the permission
[18:05] <pen> mgolisch: xsession is used to start programs I think
[18:06] <b^j> i just upgraded to ubuntu 8.10 from 8.04 and now when i do something that generates a lot of network traffic (e.g. nmap 10.0.0.0/8) i get the following error "no buffer space available" and dmesg gives me a bunch of messages stating "Neighbour table overflow".   has anyone encountered this or knows how to fix it?
[18:06] <hmw_> xjk1 ethereal is now wireshark, maybe this is helpful
[18:06] <blackpearl> mgolisch : i think you are right it seems i dont have permission to write to particular folder...how can i change the permisson for writing/saving ?
[18:06] <xjk1> hmw_: whats wireshark
[18:06] <hmw_> xjk1 the new name of ethereal
[18:06] <fde> hmw_: lspci | grep -i voodoo  ... stop rambling and show me the output of this file, note I have no vested interest in your continued Ubuntu use, or whether you downgrade, so threats don't bother me
[18:07] <mgolisch> blackpearl: maybe you should find out where it tries to save the stuff first
[18:08] <hmw_> fde 00:08.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo Banshee (rev 03)
[18:08] <xjk1> hmw_: wireshark cant see my interface :o
[18:08] <fde> hmw_: according to what I've found, it can't be that, but I guess I'll keep looking  :S
[18:08] <blackpearl> mgolisch : actually i define the path i.e, it is saving to /mnt/shared.
[18:09] <mgolisch> blackpearl: what is /mnt/shared?
[18:09] <hmw_> fde sorry, i dont mean to threaten or anything... i have been working on this for nearly 20 hrs now and i am just a little frustrated. sry, srsly!
[18:09] <marshall> what is the terminal command to see what groups a user is part of?
[18:10] <b^j> marshall, groups
[18:10] <mgolisch> marshall: id should tell you if running as the user or groups
[18:10] <deever> anyone who brought XDMCP over NAT to work?
[18:10] <Linuturk> how do I tell evolution to move a message to a certain folder when deleted?
[18:10] <fde> hmw_: I don't care how frustrated you are, such statements don't make me very willing to assist you  :/
[18:10] <mgolisch> deever: why would you want that?
[18:10] <fde> hmw_: I buy hardware that I know works on Ubuntu so I don't encounter issues, so I really have no sympathy
[18:10] <blackpearl> mgolisch : /mnt/shared is created by me - when the last time i was logged into ubuntu (i am using ubuntu on vbox wtih wINxp as my host OS)
[18:10] <LF|Irssi> wireshark isnt the only sniffer out there, just search for 'sniffer' in terminal, 'aptitude search sniffer'  ,  Snort is pretty cool in my opinion , maybe try that :)
[18:10] <marshall> how do i add myself to a group?
[18:10] <Izinucs> Linuturk: you mean to a location other than trash?
[18:11] <ikonia> hmw_: be aware certain old drivers are becoming less and less supporyted in the new versions of xorg, more so with compiz
[18:11] <deever> mgolisch: do you know that XDMCP is?
[18:11] <fde> hmw_: anyway, do you have libglide3 installed?
[18:11] <b^j> blackpearl, can you type "mount" and tell me what the output is?
[18:11] <mgolisch> blackpearl: so /mnt/shares is some filesystem exported via vbox?
[18:11] <blackpearl> How to chnage permission of folder to make it writable  ?????
[18:11] <mgolisch> deever: its used to remotly query a desktop manager greeter isnt it?
[18:11] <ikonia> blackpearl: chmod,
[18:11] <b^j> blackpearl, chmod
[18:11] <Static--> is there a way to make the GDM into your lock screen, currently the lock theme isnt even close to whats enabled
[18:11] <Izinucs> blackpearl: but what folder do you need to change?
[18:11] <hmw_> fde i have tried that with the setup i wiped today
[18:12] <Lynx_> Hi! would anyone by chance be able to help me with the driver for microdia webcams?
[18:12] <fde> hmw_: that doesn't answer my question
[18:12] <ferry1997> ciao
[18:12] <blackpearl> ikonia : chmod wtith what parameters /
[18:12] <ferry1997> !list
[18:12] <hmw_> fde wiped today... so: not anymore.
[18:12] <ikonia> blackpearl: depends what you want with owner/group/world
[18:12] <deever> mgolisch: so it is! :)
[18:12] <fde> hmw_: ok... then install it... its required
[18:12] <marshall> b^j, mgolisch: how do i add myself to a group?
[18:13] <maxbaldwin> marshall: adduser <you> <group>
[18:13] <der|kunstler> anybody knows PyGtk here ?
[18:13] <mgolisch> deever: sounds like a bad idea to do that over the internet, iam sure its awefuly slow
[18:13] <maxbaldwin> marshall: but don't quote me on it
[18:13] <mgolisch> marshall: sudo gpasswd -a user group or so
[18:13] <pen> hi
[18:13] <pen> xsession doesn't work
[18:13] <b^j> marshalll usermod -a -G <group> <user> i think
[18:13] <UnknownUser56> Tried bootpart with all available partitions .. none of them booted ,going to overwrite the MBR :/
[18:14] <mgolisch> pen: what do you mean?
[18:14] <UnknownUser56> !grub
[18:14] <pen> mgolisch: do you know what xsession do?
[18:14] <Anarka> heys :)can anyone give a hand with this error msg .ibtoolize: AC_CONFIG_MACRO_DIR([m4]) conflicts with ACLOCAL_AMFLAGS=-I m4      autoreconf: libtoolize failed with exit status: 1
[18:14] <marshall> maxbaldwin, that looks like it was the right command, but i accidentally added www-data to group jeff, how do i undo what i did -_-
[18:14] <der|kunstler> anybody knows PyGtk here ?
[18:14] <fde> hmw_: after you have that, it should just work from what I'm reading... using the tdfx driver....
[18:14] <deever> mgolisch: no internet, only nat! ;)
[18:15] <hmw_> fde yes
[18:15] <britishseapower> My sister runs a language school, they currently have 3 PCs available for student browsing. They're a PITA, windows of course, always getting viruses etc. My idea is to put ubuntu on them, either in it's native state or some sort of "kiosk" mode? any tips?
[18:15] <deever> but this is detail...
[18:15] <maxbaldwin> marshall: deluser <you> <group> , but don't quote me on that either. man deluser might be better.
[18:15] <blackpearl> ikonia : i simply want to make my folder (/mnt/shared) writable so that "transmission" torrent client is able to save the files to folder
[18:15] <b^j> marshall, you could just delete it www-data from that line in your /etc/group file
[18:15] <fde> hmw_: ensure that xserver-xorg-video-tdfx is also installed... then just restart X
[18:15] <eth01> b^j: no.
[18:15] <eth01> that will cock things up.
[18:15] <mgolisch> deever: maybe lookup the ports involved and forward that to the box you want to query the greeter of?
[18:16] <GeorgeAScott> fde: i'd love to work for google.
[18:16] <fde> hmw_: that should be it
[18:16] <Izinucs> britishseapower: the first user created always has admin privilidges with sudo.. just create another account called guest w/ a password of guest and limit what can be done.
[18:16] <fde> GeorgeAScott: me too... that's not a support question though
[18:16] <blackpearl> i simply want to make my folder (/mnt/shared - created by ME) writable so that "transmission" torrent client is able to save the files to folder
[18:16] <maxbaldwin> eth01: does my command work? or will that cock things up also
[18:16] <ikonia> blackpearl: you need to make it writeable to the user that transmissions run as as 7 is read/write executable so chmod 755 would be writeable by owner, read/exe group, read/exe world
[18:16] <b^j> blackpearl, please give us the output of mount
[18:16] <ikonia> blackpearl: man chmod will give more info
[18:16] <adub> where are my irc conversations logged to
[18:16] <adub> i use xchat
[18:16] <maxbaldwin> adub: what client?
[18:16] <maxbaldwin> erm, nevermind.
[18:16] <hmw_> fde xorg log says the driver has been loaded, no error message, no graphic card initializing, and most of the time lockup. verified card still works in win, and (sorry for mentioning) had worked in 7.10
[18:16] <blackpearl> b^j :wait i 'll give you the out just now
[18:17] <fde> adub: it doesn't log by default... settings > Preferences > logging
[18:17] <hmw_> fde but let me try once again
[18:17] <GeorgeAScott> fde: sorry it was a reply to an earlier statement you made.  i'm actually looking for support with gnome_voice_control... still
[18:17] <ikonia> blackpearl: use a pasteinb, dont flood this channel
[18:17] <britishseapower> Izinucs: ok ta... What about some sort of LIVECD, like remove the HArd disks or soemthing
[18:17] <Izinucs> adub: logging in xchat isn't on by default.. location is probably ~/.xchat
[18:17] <britishseapower> or automatically reimage each day ?
[18:17] <maxbaldwin> did it work, marshall/
[18:17] <britishseapower> am wondering if there is a linux distribution specificially for this job (internet kiosk)
[18:17] <adub> thanksa guys
[18:17] <Izinucs> britishseapower: the livecd would work but slow.. you could put the live cd on a usb stick and it would be quicker but still not as fast as HD
[18:18] <MFen> what's up with pidgin today?
[18:18] <blackpearl> b^j : here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/76503/
[18:18] <britishseapower> k, just thinking things through
[18:18] <Izinucs> MFen: mine works fine.
[18:18] <mgolisch> no idea never used it
[18:18] <marshall> maxbaldwin, i went into /etc/group and removed the line that appeared to have jeff as a group
[18:18] <britishseapower> at this stage...windows is a pain at the mo
[18:18] <MFen> Izinucs: yours doesn't push out certificate warnings?
[18:18] <Izinucs> britishseapower: "at the moment?"  you mean "most always"
[18:19] <Izinucs> MFen: nope
[18:19] <britishseapower> lol
[18:19] <fde> hmw_: let me say again, xrandr has broken binary compat from the old version of xorg, so all drivers had to be rewritten to work with it. Nothing that applied to Xorg in 7.10 is applicable to 8.10
[18:19] <MFen> i'm getting all these certificate warnings from pidgin. it asks you to verify each certificate but doesn't show you anything but the damn fingerprint! how is that useful?
[18:19] <britishseapower> true
[18:19] <blackpearl> ikonia : i will use man command when i am Not able to access this Channel
[18:19] <ferri> ciao
[18:19] <Izinucs> MFen: are you using it to log into aim or yahoo accounts?
[18:19] <ferri> !list
[18:19] <Administrator> maybe you aren't certified to use pidgin
[18:19] <fde> hmw_: also, the fact that it works with Windows is even less meaningful
[18:19] <ikonia> blackpearl: you'll learn a lot more
[18:19] <hmw_> fde aaah! finally i get to know, what happened... that is an explanation, i can live with... thanks... still reconfiguring the conf... maybe i am somehow licky
[18:19] <Lynx_> Where would I most likely change settings for my webcam driver?
[18:19] <ikonia> blackpearl: rather than us giving you blind numbers, better to learn how to use chmod, it's very handy
[18:19] <hmw_> fde: just checked to verify that the hardware still is ok
[18:20] <ikonia> blackpearl: I've already given you a very high level overview
[18:20] <MFen> Izinucs: jabber (gtalk), msn, and irc are all ssl-ized and all showing warnings
[18:20] <b^j> blackpearl, i don't see /mnt/shared in there, is it mounted currently?
[18:20] <fde> hmw_: just leave it without an xorg.conf ... it should autoconfigure
[18:20] <blackpearl> ikonia : i promise i will
[18:20] <mgolisch> b^j: acording to mount its not :)
[18:20] <ikonia> blackpearl: ok, good luck with it
[18:20] <mgolisch> maybe its some vbox exported shit, no idea how that works
[18:20] <ikonia> mgolisch: that language is not needed
[18:20] <mgolisch> never used that feature
[18:20] <Izinucs> MFen: ok.. sorry I can't help with that but it might be something with the ssl connection.. I don't know how to diagnose that though.
[18:21] <MFen> Izinucs: i'm asking in #pidgin. i suspect a very recent security update enabledit
[18:21] <blackpearl> b^j : that is what i am asking how to mount my /mnt/shared folder Or how to make it writable
[18:21] <fde> hmw_: you can mess with setting later once we know it at least works...
[18:21] <dt84> hi. I can't open some original DVD disks in 8.10. they all open with no problem in my DVD player and in XP. I guess I need to install some packages, but which?
[18:21] <ikonia> blackpearl: chmod will make it writeabl as I've toldyou
[18:21] <ikonia> blackpearl: it should auto mount when you plug the disk in
[18:22] <fde> hmw_: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf* ~/   for now so it doesn't load one, you can move them back later
[18:22] <fde> hmw_: sudo that
[18:23] <noodlesgc> !dvd | dt84
[18:23] <b^j> blackpearl, ok, i thought it was already mounted for some reason, i wanted to make sure it wasn't something silly like the fs was mounted read only
[18:23] <dcider> ive got a msi 9600xt card using the ati FGLRX driver, if i set visual effects to anything but off google earth flickers so bad i cant use it, any ideas???
[18:23] <fde> !dvdcss > dt84
[18:23] <fde> !libdvdcss > dt84
[18:23] <blackpearl> mgolisch : <blackpearl: so /mnt/shared is some filesystem exported via vbox?> no i created that folder in /mnt dir
[18:23] <mgolisch> dcider: yeah dont use compiz
[18:23] <mgolisch> :)
[18:23] <hmw_> fde lockup again, only ssh works now. i think it is not possible at the time
[18:24] <kevin__> i just went to kubuntu i guess? either way the only way I can get to the login screen is allowing the comp to use low graphics mode and then run the session under kde.  When i use gnome low graphics its scrambled
[18:24] <fde> hmw_: then I guess you're going back to 7.10
[18:24] <Xhriss> how i can change the port of a IRC network(Ubuntu 8.10; >>>XChat<<<)
[18:24] <dcider> mgolisch: thx....
[18:24] <blackpearl> b^j : so can i have the solution to mount /mnt/shared folder ???
[18:24] <Izinucs> blackpearl: if you're trying to share between a vm in vbox and your main install, if you catch them at the right time they are very helpful in #vbox.. the issue is vbox setup I believe.
[18:24] <ikonia> blackpearl: it should auto mount when you plug it in
[18:24] <hmw_> fde i will be happy with the old version, too, it was quite cool already. maybe i find new hardware or they update stuff. thanks for your help
[18:25] <Xhriss> how i can change the port of a IRC network(Ubuntu 8.10; >>>XChat<<<)???
[18:25] <Xhriss> please help
[18:25] <b^j> blackpearl, what does ls -l /mnt give you
[18:25] <blackpearl> Izinucs : seems you are lost on what i am asking..sorry
[18:25] <fde> Xhriss: XChat > Network List ... edit the server ... at the top
[18:25] <Xhriss> k thx
[18:25] <dt84> fde, noodlesgc: thanks
[18:25] <Izinucs> blackpearl: me too.. sorry 'bout that.
[18:25] <fw1> where does network manager store vpn connections?
[18:26] <kevin__> anyone know about my issue, only being able to use kde and only in low grapgics mode?
[18:26] <pen> how do I make xsession work?
[18:26] <pen> xsession is not working
[18:26] <Izinucs> Xhriss: open the server list and "edit".. on the line listing the irc address add :<port_number> to it.. like for freenode.. I have chat.freenode.net:8001
[18:27] <fde> fw1: no idea... maybe dpkg -L network-manager-vpnc will be englightening
[18:27] <blackpearl> b^j : please see this ..for ls -l /mnt output
[18:27] <fw1> fde: not really, it writes it config per user
[18:27] <ikonia> blackpearl: is this an external disk
[18:28] <pen> xsession is not working even i follow the guide
[18:28] <pen> how do I make it work
[18:28] <mgolisch> pen: what guide? and what is xsession?
[18:28] <fde> fw1: well, uhh, no it doesn't... /etc/NetworkManager stuff is system wide
[18:28] <b^j> blackpearl, i think you forgot the link
[18:28] <fw1> fde: well i can't see the two configs i wrote for myself
[18:28] <fde> fw1: its probably actually network-manager-pptp that you want though... vpnc is for cisco stuff
[18:28] <icqnumber> kevin__, tell more about your problem, that everyone can follow you
[18:29] <fde> fw1: because those aren't part of the package  :/
[18:29] <pen> mgolisch: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession
[18:29] <blackpearl> b^j : please see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/76505/ ..for ls -l /mnt output
[18:29] <Zerb_Riss> has anyone used GNUMP3D with Intrepid?
[18:29] <ikonia> blackpearl: is this an external disk
[18:29] <fde> fw1: thought you wanted to know where the configs go though, not where yours are?
[18:29] <fw1> fde: well the configs it writes
[18:29] <ugeman92> hello
[18:29] <ugeman92> sorry for my bad englihs
[18:30] <demontager> Is it possible to run Taken 5 on  PCSX2 ?
[18:30] <b^j> blackpearl, you could try "sudo chown -R <your username> /mnt/shared
[18:30] <hmw_> ugeman92 no worries... ask your question
[18:30] <mgolisch> pen: what exactly are you trying to do, and what part of that doesnt work?
[18:30] <fw1> grep -r is your friend
[18:30] <ugeman92> i need extractor for flac and log & cue
[18:30] <b^j> blackpearl, as long as this is only for storing files that are yours that shouldn't mess anything up
[18:30] <guja_nebeska> Which is the best blog solution?
[18:30] <sambagirl> anyone know a free alternative to cpanel?
[18:31] <ph8> has anyone come across a way of starting two videos at exactly the same time? k
[18:31] <ph8> i'm wanting to play two copies of the same video - one on each screen for some multi-angle viewing
[18:31] <maxbaldwin> ugeman92: Is there a language your're better in?
[18:31] <maxbaldwin> ugeman92: more fluent?
[18:31] <Pretto_away> I have a situation here, trying to run 8.10 livecd but it hangs on X, but 7.10 doesn't hang the system,  any clue?
[18:32] <ugeman92> sorry iḿ spanish
[18:32] <lobsterfestation> what's a good usb tv tuner card?  cheap pls?
[18:32] <Izinucs> !poll | lobsterfestation
[18:32] <maxbaldwin> Pretto_away: burn a new livecd?
[18:32] <maxbaldwin> !es | ugeman92
[18:32] <b^j> lobsterfestation, i have had very good lock with the hauppage wintv 150s
[18:32] <Pretto_away> maxbaldwin, tried 4 livecds
[18:32] <ugeman92> not speak english
[18:32] <pen> mgolisch: I try to use xsession to start some programs but it doesn't work
[18:32] <lobsterfestation> I wasn't taking a poll.  I was just asking a question.
[18:32] <pen> mgolisch: I followed the guide
[18:32] <Pretto_away> maxbaldwin, all tested and working
[18:33] <lobsterfestation> ty b^j
[18:33] <maxbaldwin> Pretto_away: um... 5'th time's a charm? sorry, no Idea.
[18:33] <ugeman92> ok..ok  thaks
[18:33] <Pretto_away> nobody?   maybe a boot option
[18:33] <fde> sambagirl: ebox is popular
[18:33] <jasuus> how do I figure out if what i have is a bug?  everytime my computer goes to sleep, the network connection disconnects and when it wakes, it cannot reconnect.   I have to reboot the system to reconnect.
[18:33] <ugeman92> very thaks...
[18:33] <maxbaldwin> Pretto_away: alternate install cd/ text installer?
[18:33] <Izinucs> lobsterfestation: "what the best..." is a poll.. one person may like one thing and another something else..
[18:33] <mgolisch> pen: but whats the goal of that?
[18:33] <mgolisch> pen: what do you want to do? and what doesnt work?
[18:33] <maxbaldwin> ugeman92: your welcome
[18:34] <pen> mgolisch: I already told you I want to start some program when X starts and it doesn't work
[18:34] <ryankrizan> For some odd reason, my BCM 4306 just stopped working. Is there a way to test the hardware to see if it has gone bad?
[18:34] <Pretto_away> maxbaldwin, but if it is a driver problem i will get stuck on first boot after installation
[18:34] <Sorkvild> Hello, I was hoping I might get some help with the no sound issue on Intel iMacs on 8.10
[18:34] <lobsterfestation> Izinucs you want  me to not ask any qustions?  w/e
[18:34] <mgolisch> jasuus: mostlikely reloading the kernelmodules is sufficient
[18:34] <Aperculum> say I want to move my system to another drive, how would I do it?
[18:34] <maxbaldwin> Pretto_away: I'm not sure if it would be a driver problem if it worked before...?
[18:35] <Aperculum> replace system drive that is
[18:35] <kharloss> hi there. i have a dhcp connection . how can i find my DNS adress
[18:35] <maxbaldwin> Pretto_away: but someone else might know better than I.
[18:35] <mgolisch> jasuus: you can also edit the config files of the pm scripts so those do that on their own when coming back from suspend
[18:35] <kharloss> ?
[18:35] <noodlesgc> Aperculum dd
[18:35] <ikonia> Aperculum: copy a all the data across, updates the fstab and menu.lst with new block id's
[18:35] <Pretto_away> maxbaldwin, yes.. but not in   this single machine... but if i boot with 7.10  all  works  good
[18:35] <mgolisch> pen: why dont you just use your desktops applikation autostart feature?
[18:35] <ikonia> Aperculum: I don't recommend dd untless the disks are identical
[18:35] <kevin__> i just went to kubuntu i guess? either way the only way I can get to the login screen is allowing the comp to use low graphics mode and then run the session under kde.  When i use gnome low graphics its scrambled
[18:35] <Aperculum> yeah
[18:35] <zer0o> hi guys how do i modify in kopete the "received files destination folder" from "home" to another one?
[18:36] <maxbaldwin> Pretto_away: hmm. No idea. :\
[18:36] <jasuus> mgolisch, thanks for your help. you are kinda speaking above my head here...whats a google term to search?
[18:36] <Pretto_away> maxbaldwin, thank you  for your attention anyway
[18:36] <hmw_> kharloss cat /etc/resolv.conf
[18:36] <maxbaldwin> Pretto_away: sure, you may have better luck on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[18:36] <corky`> updating from 8.04 to 8.10 takes AGES! >_<
[18:37] <mgolisch> jasuus: the problem is the networking device isnt properly reinitialized on wakeup thats why you need to reload its drivers, so these initialize the device again so its in a state you can use it
[18:37] <corky`> Man, First the downloading, The installing... Man.. takes me over 2 hours
[18:37] <noodlesgc> corky yes I can take some time
[18:37] <lobsterfestation> puppy linux loads fast.  try it
[18:37] <noodlesgc> *it
[18:37] <Pretto_away> maxbaldwin,  I am  thinking about installing 7.10  and make an  upgrade using 8.10 cd
[18:37] <corky`> Always better then a certain operating system about we do not speak noodlesgc
[18:37] <ikonia> lobsterfestation: who are you talking to ?
[18:38] <jasuus> mgolisch, how do i reload the kernel?
[18:38] <DrX> How can you ensure that all users can write files to a specific partition without exception regardless of OS (right now getting Insufficient Priviledge errors)?
[18:38] <corky`> DrX is it mounted as rw ?
[18:38] <ikonia> DrX: you can only set that on the current OS
[18:38] <corky`> and are the permissions correct?
[18:38] <Saint1993> is there any programs on linux like itunes?
[18:38] <DrX> ikonia: huh?
[18:38] <ikonia> DrX: chmod -R 777 will make it world writeable
[18:38] <lobsterfestation> oops.  I'll write that over.  corky: try puppy linux over ubuntu
[18:38] <Saint1993> I need to put songs on my iphone :)
[18:38] <maxbaldwin> Pretto_away: sure, that may work
[18:39] <scizzo-> Saint1993: rhythmbox?
[18:39] <mgolisch> jasuus: you need to findout how the kernelmodule/s(drivers) for your networking device are named then you can reload them using the command sudo modprobe -r modulename_here;sudo modprobe modulename_here
[18:39] <ejer> !ath9k
[18:39] <maxbaldwin> !iphone | Saint1993
[18:39] <kharloss> i try install a GNUPanel and a question in setup is " write the ip for the host that can use your DNS "  my IP is public , so what i have to fill in  ?
[18:39] <maxbaldwin> !itunes | Saint1993
[18:39] <DrX> ikonia: oh, so if I want to do that for directory subdir1 it would be chmod -R 777 /subdir1
[18:39] <mgolisch> jasuus: but the suspend scripts ubuntu uses have a builtin facility to do that, you just need to supply the names of the kernelmodules in its config file
[18:39] <hmw_> DrX FAT32 is fully open to pretty anthing (depending on how you mounted it). ntfs can be read from windows and xp, ext3 is also readible from within windows, but you need extra software
[18:39] <ikonia> DrX:yu
[18:40] <jasuus> mgolisch, ah ok
[18:40] <Zzeiss> Saint1993: and to talk to your ipod, use gtkpod.
[18:40] <ikonia> yup
[18:40] <hmw_> DrX "windows and linux" of course
[18:40] <corky`> ubottu, Saint1993 try Amarok, I have it in ubuntu, Doesn't look state of the art, Yet has some eye candy and functions that are nice, And ofcourse a music library!
[18:40] <mgolisch> jasuus: so the first step would be identifing your networkhardware to find out what the drivers are
[18:40] <pen> mgolisch: because I'm using xmonad
[18:40] <pen> mgolisch: it is a tiling windows manager
[18:40] <corky`> jasuus, lspci
[18:40] <pen> mgolisch: I don't use gnome applications in xmonad
[18:41] <DrX> ikonia: what if i want to later change it so subdir1 can only be written to by root but all subdirectories of /subdir1 can be written to by WORLD but not /subdir1 iteself?
[18:41] <mgolisch> pen: i use awesome :)
[18:41] <Cobra-the-joker> pls ....is a PC with 512 MB ram capable of running ubuntu smoothly
[18:41] <ikonia> DrX: chmod 700 subdir1
[18:41] <luis> Hello. I am trying to use the pfmon application but it complains that I don't have the perfmon kernel module. What's the most straightforward way to install this module?
[18:41] <noodlesgc> cobra 512 should be fine. But if it is too slow, try Xubuntu
[18:41] <corky`> luis, what distro are you on?
[18:42] <chris__> jemand deutsch?
[18:42] <DrX> does the chmod -R 777 handle subdirectories?
[18:42] <luis> corky`: Ubuntu 8.10
[18:42] <corky`> chris__, no, Yet I am dutch
[18:42] <Cobra-the-joker> i have a dual core 1.73 processor
[18:42] <corky`> luis, hmm oh wait, I thought I was in #linux... Well open synaptic
[18:42] <chris__> =/
[18:42] <b^j> since upgrading to ubuntu 8.10 i have been getting error messages when i generate a lot of network traffic (e.g. nmap 10.0.0.0/8). i get "no buffer space available" at the console and "neighbour table overflow" in dmesg.  Anyone seen this or know how to fix it?
[18:42] <jasuus> corky`, ok, what am i looking for here?
[18:42] <Cobra-the-joker> not very crappy ....iguess ....i have fedora 9 working here well too
[18:42] <noodlesgc> cobra-the-joker it should work fine, but if it doesn't try xubuntu
[18:42] <hmw_> Cobra-the-joker i've got a 800MHz/512MB machine with compiz running, its a little slow, but usable. without compiz it can play any video/dvd very well
[18:43] <mgolisch> pen: do you need to start additional binarys than your windowmanager? like does it have builtin keybingdings and stuff to open a terminal? the easiest way to create a new xsession is by placing a .desktop file into /usr/share/xsessions/ maybe have a look at the existing files there to get an idea
[18:43] <pen> mgolisch: then how are you using gnome session?
[18:43] <corky`> jasuus, well, look for something like your network card there
[18:43] <Cobra-the-joker> hmw ....comforting
[18:43] <mgolisch> pen: iam not, i just asumed you are using gnome
[18:43] <luis> corky`: apt-cache search perfmon doesn't yield anything I don't have already installed.
[18:43] <kitche> b^j: means stop doing that since in essence your overflowing your network
[18:43] <DrX> ikonia: how do i specify i want the chmod -R 777 /subdir1 to apply to subdirectories but the chmod 700 subdir1 to restrict writing to root for subdir1 but NOT subdirectories?
[18:43] <Zzeiss> Is there any way to tell the networking system to use 802.11B _only_?  Mine's trying to go to a 'g' that is too far away for consistent connectivity.
[18:43] <pen> mgolisch: I choose xmonad session from gdm
[18:43] <ikonia> DrX: perfect
[18:43] <sambagirl> there are 2 xchats
[18:43] <kitche> b^j: the svn version I know actually works fine with a lot of network traffic
[18:43] <pen> mgolisch: in /usr/share/xsessions/? but that requires sudo or something
[18:43] <lobsterfestation> UBUNTU SUKS.  (Good thing I said that in the right chat room.)
[18:44] <sambagirl> one is xchate gnome
[18:44] <b^j> kitche, the svn version of what?
[18:44] <mgolisch> pen: if you have a session for that allready, forget what i said
[18:44] <kitche> b^j: of nmap
[18:44] <corky`> luis, libpfm3-3.2-dev too?
[18:44] <sambagirl> now it wont work after a command i entered
[18:44] <mgolisch> pen: so you are just looking into starting aditional programs on startup ? yes?
[18:44] <DrX> ikonia: thanks!!!
[18:44] <b^j> kitche, its not an nmap issue, anything that generates a lot of traffic does it
[18:44] <luis> corky`: yes.
[18:44] <jasuus> corky mgolisch http://paste.ubuntu.com/76510/
[18:44] <blackpearl> b^j : can you tell me the command again i got disconnect from net and my computer booted.
[18:45] <ikonia> DrX: no problem
[18:45] <pen> mgolisch: yes, that's why I mentioned xsession
[18:45] <corky`> ikonia, nice hammer
[18:45] <corky`> :)
[18:45] <corky`> luis, your out of luck with me buddy. :(
[18:45] <b^j> blackpearl, sudo chown -R <your user name> /mnt/shared
[18:45] <luis> corky`: thanks anyway!
[18:45] <kitche> b^j: here http://www.mail-archive.com/nutch-user@lucene.apache.org/msg08707.html like I said you reached the maxium number of connections
[18:46]  * corky` pulls up his belt to brag about "Just doin' ma' job luis"
[18:46] <kharloss> i try install a GNUPanel and a question in setup is " write the ip for the host that can use your DNS "  my IP is public , so what i have to fill in  ?
[18:46] <ikonia> kharloss: I suggest you use your internal ip
[18:46] <ikonia> kharloss: don't want to open that up to the public
[18:46] <b^j> kitche, i figured that, i am not finding solutions to this though
[18:47] <UnknownUSSR> I have followed this guide [ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub ],and on step 6 everything is find until ls /mnt/root/boot which is empty although I setup GRUB on what it return (dh0,5) ,any suggestions ?
[18:47] <corky`> ikonia, look at his mask
[18:47] <kitche> b^j: have to recompile your kernel with a different stack
[18:47] <anger_> Hi!
[18:47] <jerbear> any way to make X forwarding over ssh a little more responsive?
[18:47] <UnknownUSSR> I mount the device and see that /boot is literally empty
[18:47] <anger_> How are you supposed to save iptables configuration in ubuntu?
[18:47] <UnknownUSSR> on that partition ,there is another that has grub installed on it
[18:48] <WormDrink> hi
[18:48] <ikonia> corky`: am I missing something ?
[18:48] <WormDrink> Can i boot of a extended partition ?
[18:48] <anger_> fedora had /etc/sysconfig/iptables, is there something similar in ubuntu?
[18:48] <blackpearl> b^j : what took you so long to understand to tell me this command sudo chown -R <your username> /mnt/shared...VOILA it worked :)..thanx
[18:48] <ejer> !ufw | anger_
[18:48] <Cobra-the-joker> is there is a gui application for network managment ?
[18:49] <corky`> "<ikonia> kharloss: I suggest you use your internal ip, kharloss: don't want to open that up to the public", If you looked at his mask, It was just an IP to me! ;-)
[18:49] <r00tinthebox> yeah!
[18:49] <pen> mgolisch: brb
[18:49] <r00tinthebox> ack\
[18:49] <b^j> blackpearl, i wanted to know if there were other issues, like the fs was mounted ro
[18:49] <corky`> And ikonia, So what if they have your IP?, If you have a good secured PC, Your safe.
[18:49] <w0ls0n> hello all. How can I increase my screen res? It only goes up to 800x600? I can't find the place to change what type of monitor I have.
[18:49] <ejer> !firewall | anger_
[18:49] <blackpearl> b^j : wht is fs command ?
[18:49] <corky`> w0ls0n, what vid card? nvidia or ati?
[18:49] <w0ls0n> neither, it's onboard
[18:50] <hmw_> UnknownUSSR but the /boot directory is there?
[18:50] <b^j> blackpearl, sorry, i wanted to make sure there wasn't another issue like the file system was mounted readonly
[18:50] <corky`> ehm, I know of manual configs, Sorry :X
[18:50] <corky`> brb reboot!
[18:51] <UnknownUSSR> hmw_:yes ...
[18:51] <Pretto_away> maxbaldwin, solved starting  with safe graphics
[18:51] <DrX> ikonia: it didn't work... i'm still getting "Insufficient priviledge" errors
[18:51] <ikonia> DrX: please show me ls -la /subdir1 in a pastebin please
[18:52] <UnknownUSSR> hmm ... sudo grub-install gave an error ,let me pastebin it
[18:52] <UnknownUSSR> !paste
[18:52] <ejer> anybody know a fix for ath9k instability?
[18:52] <anger_> ejer, hehe thanks, didn't really have experience with these gui configurators
[18:53] <ejer> anger_: iptables can also be manipulated directly
[18:53] <mgolisch> pen: you have to select Xclients-Session in gdm it then executes whatever is in your ~/.xsession file, for me atleast
[18:53] <pochi_> can some one help me with touchscreen and libsvga?
[18:53] <pen> mgolisch: hm
[18:53] <anger_> ejer, I know, I just didn't find out how I'm supposed to save the configuration
[18:53] <pen> mgolisch: I see
[18:53] <pen> mgolisch: I will try now
[18:54] <saml> what's burnp6 utility?
[18:54] <maxbaldwin> Pretto_away: cool!
[18:54] <ejer> anger_: this is a good method http://www.faqs.org/docs/iptables/iptables-save.html
[18:54] <UnknownUSSR> Pasted sudo grub-install output -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/76512/
[18:54] <sambagirl> if i change the speed of my processor does that actually happen or is that just eye candy?
[18:55] <saml> is there a command that maxes out CPU?
[18:55] <sambagirl> i see the option at the top of my taskbar
[18:55] <sambagirl> saml something to do with power management i suspect
[18:56] <anger_> ejer, yeah, I just still would have to modify the init scripts with that one?
[18:56] <saml> sambagirl: thanks. it seems cpuburn package has it
[18:56] <ejer> UnknownUSSR: you are trying to fix grub by reinstalling it? If so, you should be using setup (hd0) to install to MBR unless you have something else going on
[18:56] <sambagirl> ahh ok saml
[18:56] <hmw_pidgin> UnknownUSSR: since you want grub to be the boot loader, these two commands wont do much harm
[18:57] <pen> mgolisch: btw, I only see xclient script
[18:57] <saml> i have a web server.. and i want to do load testing
[18:57] <pen> mgolisch: is that the one you talked about?
[18:57] <hmw_pidgin> UnknownUSSR: ah listen to ejer
[18:57] <sambagirl> ahh i see saml
[18:57] <saml> should I use :(){ :|:&}:   of sort?
[18:57] <pen> mgolisch: it is already selecting script
[18:57] <pen> mgolisch: weitd
[18:57] <saml> i know there was a load testing tool... ab?
[18:57] <sambagirl> i dont know saml.
[18:57] <anger_> anyway, this guarddog seems to be just what I was searching for
[18:58] <ejer> anger_: some people load and save in rc.local - personally I use firehol to do iptables stuff
[18:58] <UnknownUSSR> hmw_pidgin && ejer ,that's what I've done .Note that hd0 is an old 80gb hdd ,but the Windows boot loader is on C:\ which is on hd1 ,does it matter ?
[18:58] <ejer> anger_: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/firewall.html
[18:58] <mgolisch> pen: yeah thats it
[18:59] <ejer> UnknownUSSR: in your paste you had setup (hd0,1)
[18:59] <w0ls0n> where do I configure my monitor settings in gnome?
[18:59] <pen> mgolisch: but I have my .Xsession file
[18:59] <pen> mgolisch: it doesn't get executed
[18:59] <mgolisch> pen: its name has to be .xsession
[18:59] <mgolisch> nit .Xsession
[18:59] <UnknownUSSR> ejer:That's what find /grub/stage1 spat out
[18:59] <lianimator2> my vbox with XP installed occasionally becomes filled with green lines and becomes non-responsive... anyone have this problem?
[18:59] <DrX> ikonia: www.pastebin.ca/1265991 (dir & filenames changed for security reasons)
[18:59] <Cobra-the-joker>  what is the application that manages the network devices ?
[19:00] <hmw_pidgin> UnknownUSSR: depends on your bios. on very old pcs there must not be more than one "active" (boot flag in partition table) partition in the whole system
[19:00] <UnknownUSSR> ( in the grub console )
[19:00] <ejer> UnknownUSSR: ok, and that is your correct root entry, but not setup
[19:00] <inflamez> irc.gnome.org
[19:00] <Cobra-the-joker> is there is a gui application for network managment ?
[19:00] <pen> mgolisch: but I tried .xsession first but it doesn't work
[19:00] <pen> mgolisch: I did make it executable like chmod +x
[19:00] <pen> mgolisch: do I need to?
[19:00] <DasEi> Cobra-the-joker: network-manager
[19:00] <OceanX> How do I configure Thunderbird to share account settings with Windows installation?
[19:01] <ikonia> OceanX: you need to configure them both in windows and linux
[19:01] <ikonia> DrX: that pastebin is taking a long time to load
[19:01] <Cobra-the-joker> just typing network-manager ?
[19:01] <pen> mgolisch: any ideas?
[19:01] <mgolisch> pen: does it have a shebang?
[19:01] <ejer> UnknownUSSR: I think what you need to do is 1. grub-install /dev/sda 2. boot into ubuntu, then do update-grub (with sudo of course in front of these commands). This should 1. reinstall grub to your MBR and 2. update grub to see windows
[19:01] <pen> mgolisch: what is shebang?
[19:01] <mgolisch> pen: like does the first line look like: #!/bin/bash or so?
[19:02] <OceanX> #
[19:02] <pen> mgolisch: ah, nope...is that really the reason?
[19:02] <DrX> ikonia: really, it's a tiny file?
[19:02] <ikonia> DrX: still loading
[19:02] <mgolisch> pen: maybe, and have a look at ~/.xsession-errors maybe it tells whats wrong
[19:02] <ryankrizan> My BCM4306 wireless mysteriously stopped working today. It seems to be working, but won't locate any wireless networks. Can anyone help me with this?
[19:02] <chao1> I was wondering, has anyone had issues with 8.10 when you login? I was having a problem with the screen only turning black and showing the mouse cursor after I logged in. I fixed it by going to my tty and doing sudo aptitude upgrade
[19:02] <DrX> ikonia: do you have another URL you prefer?
[19:03] <manloza> Hello guys, I 'm trying to use my External HD and back some stuff up on it usnig Ubuntu Live CD. It automounts the external hd but doesnt let me read/write etc to it.. How do i own the drive
[19:03] <ikonia> !pastebin
[19:03] <Cobra-the-joker> any one here uses USB ADsl modems ?
[19:03] <w0ls0n> where do I configure my monitor settings in gnome?
[19:03] <chao1> but now my loggin out is slow.
[19:03] <ikonia> DrX: it's just timed out
[19:03] <xiroV> Hi everyone. I just lost some text i was using, kinda important.. Does anyone know if i can find any Logfiles from clipboard, or something like that?? Please help
[19:03] <DasEi> manloza: find out where it's mounted and chown it or become root and copy then
[19:04] <alexei> I have difficulties with login to launchpad, get this: "__init__() takes exactly 2 arguments (3 given)" What is wrong?
[19:04] <pen> mgolisch: hm... I don't see anything related to .xsession
[19:04] <manloza> DasEi can i get teh chown command? ROOT is read only but i need write.
[19:04] <DrX> ikonia: try it again... i just loaded it in 1 sec
[19:04] <manloza> DasEi it is mounted as sda
[19:04] <ikonia> it is loading now
[19:04] <pen> mgolisch: only /etc/gdm/Xsession
[19:04] <ikonia> going nowhere fast
[19:04] <dangit> how do i play rmvb in totem under ubuntu 8.10 64 bit?
[19:05] <dangit> i was able to play them with wincodecs32 package under 7.10 32 bit, but not anymore... :|
[19:05] <xiroV> Hi everyone. I just lost some text i was using, kinda important.. Does anyone know if i can find any Logfiles from clipboard, or something like that?? Please help
[19:05] <chao1> >:o:-/I was wondering, has anyone had issues with 8.10 when you login? I was having a problem with the screen only turning black and showing the mouse cursor after I logged in. I fixed it by going to my tty and doing sudo aptitude upgrade
[19:05] <mgolisch> pen: anyways i think the file needs a shebang so x11 knows what interpreter to use to execute it
[19:05] <DasEi> manloza: sdaX is mounted smwhere, prbly /media/sth, type : mount               in terminal to ind out where
[19:05] <DasEi> *find
[19:05] <xiroV> does anyone know where i can find logfiles about errors and such too?
[19:05] <dangit> xiroV, /var/log
[19:05] <xiroV> dangit, thanks
[19:06] <manloza> DasEi can you provide me with chown comand and the comand u type after it so i can get full access to it?
[19:06] <DasEi> xiroV: /var/log/syslog  , for geneall kernel issuses
[19:06] <ikonia> DrX: cant get to that site
[19:06] <dangit> xiroV, np
[19:06] <w0ls0n> http://my.opera.com/sjosul/blog/ubuntu-8-04-dual-monitor-setup << That screenshot at the bottom, I don't have that in 8.10!! How do I get it??
[19:06] <ikonia> DrX: just timing out
[19:06] <pen> mgolisch: what is a shehang/
[19:06] <dangit> anyone on the rmvb files on 8.10 64 bit?
[19:06] <ikonia> pen: your having a lot of problems, what is wrong with using the session manager in your ubuntu install ?
[19:06] <phishie> for logs you could try System-> Administration -> System log
[19:06] <ikonia> pen: awhy are you pushing .xessions ?
[19:06] <dp> menu items within amarok and openoffice seem to disappear after a very short amount of time (100ms or so). if I hover over them quickly, I can temporarily see them, but they disappear again.  this is for menu items as well as right click context items.  anyone else having this problem?
[19:06] <DrX> ikonia: do you know a better pastebin?
[19:07] <mgolisch> pen: its a line starting with #!/some/executable here, which tell what program to use to execute that textfile
[19:07] <pen> mgolisch: I see
[19:07] <pen> ikonia: i'm using xmonad
[19:07] <pen> ikonia: from gdm
[19:07] <TbotNik> All, getting errors from php oop class reloading.  Need sample of test code to check to see if already loaded, to avoid the errors.  Inherited this crappy code, so no choices here, unless i want to re-write it all.
[19:08] <manloza> DasEi can you provide me with chown comand and the comand u type after it so i can get full access to it?
[19:08] <UnknownUSSR> thanks ejer &hmw_pidgin ,I restarted from 0,fdisk -l & grub/-install use output  is here ,http://paste.ubuntu.com/76517/ ,hopefully I can resolve this issue today .. It's day 2
[19:08] <chao1> later
[19:08] <ejer> pen: I have seen issues where if the shebang is #!/bin/sh this does not work, change to #!/bin/bash
[19:08] <DasEi> manloza: sudo chown <UrUsername>  /path/to/mount  or chmod u-r-x  /path to ...
[19:08] <manloza> then cmd after it?
[19:08] <pen> ejer: maybe that's why
[19:08] <vale> I made a stupid mistake... I removed the line for root-rights in visudo befor setting a root password.. is there a way to set a root password now?
[19:09] <ikonia> DrX: apologies my connection dropped
[19:09] <ejer> UnknownUSSR: so what is issue now?
[19:09] <ikonia> !pastebin | DrX
[19:09] <pen> ralpho_: passwd?
[19:09] <pen> gpasswd
[19:09] <pen> I forgot
[19:09] <ejer> vale: you can boot to single user mode
[19:09] <pen> mgolisch: whatever, let me try this time
[19:09] <vale> ejer: how?
[19:09] <xiroV> DasEi, Thanks.. can you tell me what -- MARK -- Means? in the logfile?
[19:09] <w0ls0n> What happened to screen and graphics in 8.10!!!
[19:10] <DrX> !pastebin
[19:10] <OpenBSDRulzs> !root | vale'
[19:10] <DasEi> xiroV: not really, maybe if I see the paste
[19:10] <ralpho_> pen still logged in wont let go.
[19:10] <hylje> network fails to use nameservers, /etc/resolv.conf has correct entries but network apps timeout on name resolving
[19:10] <ejer> vale: choose recovery mode at grub stage
[19:10] <UnknownUSSR> ejer:same ,sudo grub-install doesn't work properly and gives "xfs_freeze: specified file ["/mnt/root/boot/grub"] is not on an XFS filesystem
[19:10] <DasEi> !paste | xiroV
[19:10] <UnknownUSSR> Installing GRUB to /dev/sda as (hd0).."
[19:10] <UnknownUSSR> Should I take its suggestion >
[19:10] <ejer> UnknownUSSR: read the error much more carefully :)
[19:10] <UnknownUSSR> *?
[19:10] <hylje> this issue persists on different network configurations which work for other devices fine
[19:10] <UnknownUSSR> hmm ...
[19:11] <vale> ejer: ok thanks
[19:11] <JonathanEllis> My pc wont start ubuntu when my ide peripherals change. My boot disk is on the primary IDE channel and that hasn't changed but there is a CD drive and another hard disk on the secondary channel. I have been into the BIOS and got it to reconfigure the hard disks. The wierd thing is Grub boots and I get the OS menu but when I select Ubuntu it says starting up and then hangs. When I press Ctl Alt 1 to see the terminal it says Loading, please wait and t
[19:11] <DasEi> manloza: you get by ?
[19:11] <ejer> UnknownUSSR: This error is harmless and can be ignored. (unless you are using XFS for your root filesystem)
[19:11] <zasek> szlag
[19:11] <dp> anyone?
[19:11] <zasek> dp what
[19:11] <ejer> UnknownUSSR: Installation finished. No error reported. - ie: reboot and see
[19:12] <OpenBSDRulzs> UnknownUSSR: is your /boot on a non-XFS partition? What is your boot partition?
[19:12] <dp> zasek: menu items within amarok and openoffice seem to disappear after a very short amount of time (100ms or so). if I hover over them quickly, I can temporarily see them, but they disappear again.  this is for menu items as well as right click context items.  anyone else having this problem?
[19:12] <xiroV> DasEi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/76520/
[19:12] <OpenBSDRulzs> UnknownUSSR: never mind.
[19:12] <ejer> UnknownUSSR: your partitioning is strange tho... you have extended as 1, then a primary as 2
[19:12] <phishie> b!tchX is no longer in the repos?
[19:12] <pen> mgolisch: ejer doesn't work
[19:12] <ikonia> phishie: correct
[19:13] <pen> mgolisch: ejer still doesn't execute
[19:13] <zasek> hmm
[19:13] <phishie> thanks ikonia
[19:13] <DasEi> JonathanEllis: use a live cd to check menu.lst > right boot given and also check /boot for correct content
[19:13] <UnknownUSSR> ejer:Ah ,it's been resolved for now ,it's about 1am .. yes I have set '/' as primary can't remember why though
[19:13] <w0ls0n> What happened to screen and graphics in 8.10??
[19:13] <xiroV> ubottu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/76520/
[19:14] <UnknownUSSR> hah grub is installed <3 ejer
[19:14] <paule> ive got a prob with mounting, cant mount sda6, i always get no such file or direcotry, someone aids?
[19:14] <ikonia> paule: show us the command your using
[19:14] <ejer> UnknownUSSR: ;) now do update-grub in ubuntu if windows did not show on grub menu
[19:14] <DrX> ikonia: paste.ubuntu.com/76522/
[19:14] <ikonia> DrX: ta
[19:14] <OpenBSDRulzs> w0ls0n: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:14] <IAmError> I have been banned from ubuntuforums  ...Is it possible to get my account reinstated?
[19:15] <OpenBSDRulzs> w0ls0n: report back
[19:15] <DasEi>  xiroV: looks like placeholder to me , as no errors reported, tried googel it already ?
[19:15] <ikonia> DrX: interesting you have have setgid on that directory
[19:15] <xiroV> DasEi, You know?? .. a error happend.. so i thought i might be in the logfile?? it was about 19:55 - 20:05
[19:15] <w0ls0n> doing it now
[19:15] <ikonia> DrX: that changes things a little
[19:15] <Seveas> IAmError, #ubuntuforums is the place to go for you
[19:15] <paule> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda6 /media/HaHa
[19:15] <IAmError> Thank you Seveas
[19:15] <ejer> pen: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58415
[19:15] <sambagirl> when i run system monitor on my server i see 4 cpus listed with activity for all 4. however the server i thought only had 2 xeon 2.8ghz cpu's? why is there 4 showing?
[19:15] <ikonia> paule: ls -la /dev/sda6
[19:15] <UnknownUSSR> ejer:done ,let me reboot ;)
[19:15] <DrX> ikonia: how so?
[19:15] <xiroV> DasEi, ah okay.. no i didn't
[19:15] <paule> k try it
[19:15] <Seveas> sambagirl, they are dual core
[19:15] <mgolisch> pen: what exactly do you have in that file?
[19:16] <Seveas> sambagirl, 2 cpu's x 2 cores = 4 cpu like thingies in system monitor
[19:16] <ikonia> DrX: you basiclly looking it to the group creation mask
[19:16] <sambagirl> ahh seveas
[19:16] <ikonia> DrX: why do you have it setgid
[19:16] <w0ls0n> OpenBSDRulzs, Rerstarting the box now
[19:16] <JonathanEllis> DasEi: I have worked on menu.lst within the last week and its all as it should be: it hasnt changed. Also /boot is ok because that hasnt changed. The only thing that has changed is the drives on the secondary IDE channel. I just pressed Ctrl Alt Del while in terminal 1 to try to shut down. Oddly enough, instead of shutting down it has now given me the log in screen. Bizarre!
[19:16] <DrX> ikonia: maybe for SAMBA
[19:16] <ikonia> DrX: you don't need it for samba
[19:16] <DasEi>  xiroV: the error you had was X (graphical system), also check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:16] <xiroV> DasEi, I lost some important text because of the error.. can i find any logs over stuff which has been in the clipboard or something like that?
[19:16] <ikonia> DrX: what is the userid your using to try and write
[19:16] <DrX> ikonia: admin
[19:16] <ejer> xiroV: probably not... what were you writing in?
[19:16] <sambagirl> you were right seveas i moved up to intrepid on my thinkpad and the server. i have hardy on my macbook in vmware.
[19:16] <paule> paule@Demon12:~$ ls -la /dev/sda6
[19:16] <paule> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 6 2008-11-24 20:27 /dev/sda6
[19:16] <paule> paule@Demon12:~$  sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda6 /media/HaHa
[19:16] <paule> [sudo] password for paule:
[19:16] <paule> fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/HaHa: No such file or directory
[19:16] <FloodBot1> paule: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:17] <ikonia> DrX: can you show me id admin
[19:17] <DrX> ikonia: administrator
[19:17] <paule> k
[19:17] <DrX> ikonia: there isn't one
[19:17] <dp> anyone?
[19:17] <xiroV> ejer, i was writing on something for my blog.. a blogpart.. soo.. i don't really want to write it over
[19:17] <ejer> paule: the path you are trying to mount to does not exist, do 'sudo mkdir /media/HaHa' first
[19:17] <ikonia> DrX: then you can't be doing it as the user admin
[19:17] <JonathanEllis> ikonia: Did you have a chance to look at my questions?
[19:17] <IdleOne> is there a howto on how to setup a NAS server with ubuntu?
[19:17] <dp> this has been an ongoing problem since the upgrade to 8.10
[19:17] <DrX> ikonia: it's a Windows XP user
[19:17] <ikonia> JonathanEllis: can do now
[19:17] <ikonia> DrX: thats the problem then
[19:17] <DrX> ikonia: can't guests write to the OS?
[19:17] <ikonia> DrX: you don't have a unix user mapped to it
[19:17] <ejer> xiroV: so in firefox, you probably lost it
[19:17] <unavailable> allright, i figured it out...  if anyone is dealing with a triple boot system, with vista, win7 and ubuntu and want grub as the only boot loader displayed, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6243439&postcount=2
[19:17] <Seveas> IdleOne, apt-get install nfs-kernel-server; man exports
[19:17] <JonathanEllis> Thanks. Do you want me to resubmit the questions
[19:18] <sambagirl> i dont understand why the cpu % is at like almost 100% and stuff like that?
[19:18] <xiroV> ejer, d*mn..
[19:18] <ikonia> DrX: also you need to look at your smb.conf and see what the share settings are
[19:18] <DrX> ikonia: i thought 777 meant WORLD as in EVERYONE
[19:18] <ikonia> DrX: yes, but he share settings can overwride that
[19:18] <DieHenne> dp whats your problem?
[19:18] <xiroV> ejer, Thanks anyway
[19:18] <IdleOne> Seveas, thanks :) and Hi long time no see
[19:18] <paule> thanks worked just fine
[19:18] <DasEi> JonathanEllis: so if you can log in, do so and check via fdisk -l if any descriptors changed, consider using uuids to avoid such a thing, also : hdparm -z rereads the parti table
[19:18] <paule> thanks to ejer
[19:18] <sambagirl> does top show the samething as processes in system monitor?
[19:19] <Seeb> what's up with packages.ubuntu.com?
[19:19] <n8tuser> sambagirl-> compare the pid, they should be the same eh?
[19:19] <DrX> ikonia: read only = No
[19:19] <w0ls0n> OpenBSDRulzs, Same resolutions
[19:19] <JonathanEllis> DasEi: I am using volume labels instead of uuids (prefer human readable things so less chance of making a mistake)
[19:19] <IdleOne> ubottu, ping
[19:19] <sambagirl> ahh ok n8tuser
[19:19] <DrX> ikonia: force user = case
[19:19] <mFacenet> does anybody have office 2007 running in wine on 8.10?
[19:19] <DasEi> sambagirl: same, but more advanced
[19:20] <dp> DieHenne: menu items within amarok and openoffice seem to disappear after a very short amount of time (100ms or so). if I hover over them quickly, I can temporarily see them, but they disappear again.  this is for menu items as well as right click context items.  anyone else having this problem?
[19:20] <JonathanEllis> DasEi: Now it cant find my home partition so something is odd. I will reboot again and see if it picks it up this time
[19:20] <DrX> ikonia: force group = users
[19:20] <unavailable> ubottu triple boot
[19:20] <unavailable> figures
[19:20] <OpenBSDRulzs> w0ls0n: in xorg.conf, what is are resolutions? What are supported by your monitor?
[19:20] <DieHenne> dp: hmm... no idea. only in those apps?
[19:20] <w0ls0n> my monitor supports 1280 x 1024
[19:20] <DrX> ikonia: actually, it turns out I'm logged in as user case
[19:20] <ejer> DrX: if you are forcing user, those files need to be owned by that user, if not the entire root share dir needs to be 777, it is much better to chown as user case - maybe check http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-do-i-set-permissions-to-samba-shares.html
[19:21] <w0ls0n> xorg is the basic stuff. Want me to paste?
[19:21] <OpenBSDRulzs> !dualboot | unavailable
[19:21] <sambagirl> i guess it is called cpu buster that i have on the thinkpad i probably should not mess about with changing cpu frequencies on the server right?
[19:21] <AMDfanboy> quicky, i wrote a shell script, thats just a long list of boring commands, nothing smart in there.  and its dying.  i want to see where it dies.  so i can see if the server just sucks or if theres a problem with something in the script.
[19:21] <endo602> can someone help me with my xfi spdif out?
[19:21] <endo602> Its killing me
[19:21] <sambagirl> cpu burner i meant
[19:21] <ejer> AMDfanboy: try running it with sh -xv yourscript.sh
[19:21] <AMDfanboy> is there a way i can make it echo each line it runs as it runs it?
[19:21] <dp> DieHenne: yes.  I've tried others (Gimp, Text Editor, Tomboy, Pidgin), none of them seem to be affected
[19:21] <AMDfanboy> ejer: thats what it does?
[19:21] <n8tuser> AMDfanboy-> you can add -X option at the top
[19:22] <sambagirl> endo682 say what your problem is
[19:22] <OpenBSDRulzs> AMDfanboy: sh -X yourscript.sh
[19:22] <ejer> AMDfanboy: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/debugging-shell-script.html
[19:22] <eugman> What's the best way to restore grub after installing windows xp on a partition?
[19:22] <w0ls0n> OpenBSDRulzs, http://pastebin.ca/1266021
[19:22] <AMDfanboy> thanks guys!
[19:22] <ejer> !grub | eugman
[19:22] <eugman> thanks
[19:22] <IdleOne> !info nfs-kernel-server > IdleOne
[19:23] <DrX> ejer, y we cannot make the root shre 777, only subdiretories of the samba share can be 777 ultimately
[19:23] <OpenBSDRulzs> w0lson: hold on...
[19:23] <ejer> DrX: then they should be owned by user who has write access
[19:24] <DrX> ejer: what if i make the owner root?
[19:24] <lianimator2> how do I get the font sizes in OpenOffice Presentation to be the same across all slides?
[19:25] <w0ls0n> OpenBSDRulzs, np
[19:25] <jxander> is there a way to switch between screens using the keyboard when having a dual-head configuration?
[19:25] <ejer> DrX: why? if you are specifying a user... you do not want to use root for anything unless necessary
[19:25] <millertime_018> hey i need help making a virtual machine
[19:25] <w0ls0n> millertime_018, google vmware
[19:25] <unavailable> !tripleboot > unavailable
[19:25] <JonathanEllis> ikonia: I wrote my original question on the machine I was working on and now I have had to reboot it. Now I am on a different machine because the other wont boot so I dont have my list of questions or the pastebin reference. Doh!
[19:25] <Slart> millertime_018: or use virtualbox
[19:25] <DieHenne> jxander:  alt-tab doesnt do it?
[19:25] <w0ls0n> VMWare server 2.0 works fine on ubuntu
[19:25] <millertime_018> w0lson: i've already got qemu
[19:25] <ejer> !virtualization | millertime_018
[19:25] <unavailable> well you should ubottu
[19:25] <DasEi> ﻿millertime_018:if it's not too special, pm me
[19:25] <ejer> I recommend virtualbox millertime_018
[19:26] <OpenBSDRulzs> Revisit on my wireless and sound problem: I have yet to build a 2.6.26.1 kernel yet. w0ls0n, I'm having a problem to solve now. Hold on longer.
[19:26] <w0ls0n> OpenBSDRulzs, np, im here for 2 more hours. Take your time.
[19:26] <unavailable> millertime_018: only it doesnt support direct3d
[19:26] <mib_qckbp2> !offtopic
[19:26] <unavailable> millertime_018: I really dont think any of the free virtual  junks do
[19:26] <DrX> ejer: because the other users will not have write access to the root nor the samba share, only subdirectories of the samba sahre
[19:26] <millertime_018> ejer: i tried to install that through the add/remove but virtual box wouldn't go on
[19:27] <millertime_018> unavailable: what is direct 3d?
[19:27] <ejer> DrX: yes they will because you are forcing a user in samba
[19:27] <unavailable> millertime_018: http://www.virtualbox.org
[19:27] <jxander> DieHenne, nope... i can switch between apps, but it doesn't go to the other screen. any idea?
[19:27] <unavailable> millertime_018: directx capable graphics
[19:27] <ejer> DrX: as long as the dirs and files are chown case, all users who log on will have write and read access, as if they WERE user case
[19:28] <DrX> ejer: oh, so forcing the user in SAMBA will override the chmod 700 on the samba share directory?
[19:28] <JonathanEllis> jonathanellis: is testing whether the sound works as I keep missing when people speak to me. Please ignore
[19:28] <unavailable> millertime_018: basically, you wont be able to see any of vista's prettiness, linux's cool compiz or any 3d games in virtualbox..  for those, you will have to use their native os directly installed on the computer.
[19:29] <ejer> DrX: this is 2 different things, chown and chmod. The files should be chmod 644, the dirs 755 as normal...
[19:29] <MeiSPuNJaBI> oi hoiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[19:29] <MeiSPuNJaBI> satsriakal every1
[19:30] <MeiSPuNJaBI> 8.10 has been crap for me so far, mainly coz it doesn't support my gfx card, stuck in tty
[19:30] <DrX> ejer: well, that's not going to work because we can't have users creating directories nor files in the root of the samba share, only in subdirectories
[19:30] <MeiSPuNJaBI> anyone know why my gfx card doesn't work
[19:30] <hylje> network fails to use nameservers, /etc/resolv.conf has correct entries but network apps timeout on name resolving. the same networks work for other boxes.
[19:31] <amaranth> hi, all! people, help me to save my komputer of sniffers.
[19:31] <ejer> DrX: what you want is very easy, but you will need to learn the basics of file permissions, I did send you a link earlier... basically you should not be forcing a user, and each user shopuld have their own dirs, and they can read/write those but not others
[19:31] <doem> after installing the new ubuntu and reinstalling truecrypt I get this message after trying to mount an encrypted file and entering the password: "device-mapper: reload ioctl failed: Invalid argument device-mapper: remove ioctl failed: Device or resource busy Failed to revert device creation. Command failed" has anyone got an idea what to do for this?
[19:31] <Pizarro2> hi
[19:31] <s000501> UFW firewall denies all my server's traffic except several port which makes access to Windows network shares possible.
[19:31] <s000501> Although NetBIOS broadcasts are still blocked, does anyone know where I can find documentation how to enable hostname queries (using UFW)?
[19:31] <DrX> ejer: but all directories must be shared by all users
[19:31] <Pizarro2> Is there anyhting else appart from xchat??? It has a few option to customize!!!
[19:32] <DrX> ejer: they just can't create directories and files in the top level of the samba share
[19:33] <DefunctProcess> I just randomly got a "authentication failed" error when logging into AIM with pidgin, my username and password are correct but it still says it failed any idea why?
[19:33] <DrX> ikonia: i created a root user on the XP box and tried to put files onto the Linux box from the XP box but it restored 0 files and gave no error message.
[19:33] <Bear-Lt> Hello! I'm having a networking issue with my Asus Aspire One (A110L) and Ubuntu 8.04 installed on it: I can't ping the gateway. I'm using correct parameters for my NIC, everything seems to set up as it belong. Still, on pinging I get the "Destinantion Host Unreachable" message...
[19:33] <Bear-Lt> What should I do?
[19:34] <benovic> when i am in a remote shell, how can i see what commands are allowed?
[19:34] <ejer> DrX: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/AccessControls.html
[19:34] <benovic> or programs installed..
[19:34] <Bear-Lt> Before Ubuntu I had Linpus Linux and with those parameters I could ping the gateway
[19:34] <Finn_> Anyone know if there is a general way to "convert" a xxxxx.bin -installer to .deb?  (like they used make-jpkg for Java back in the days)?
[19:35] <DasEi> !compile > millertime_018
[19:35] <Bear-Lt> Anyone?
[19:35] <yomomma> Bear-Lt: doesnt it "just work" for you?
[19:36] <OpenBSDRulzs> w0ls0n: here you go - modify please: http://pastebin.ca/1266034 (I used your pastebin file)
[19:36] <DefunctProcess> I just randomly got a "authentication failed" error when logging into AIM with pidgin, my username and password are correct but it still says it failed any idea why?
[19:36] <w0ls0n> OpenBSDRulzs, tyty I will try it and let you know
[19:36] <LFSrulz2> Bear-Lt: post the output of ifconfig and route to the pastebin pls
[19:36] <elwaywitvac> Bear-LT: are you wired or wireless?
[19:36] <OpenBSDRulzs> w0ls0n: Thanks, it define 640x480 by the way
[19:37] <Bear-Lt> I'm wired
[19:37] <JonathanEllis> ikonia: Will you be online in for a while? This thing is frustrating me big time right now and I think I need some time away from it to cool down. Can I ask you about twin screens later?
[19:37] <elwaywitvac> Bear-Lt: no idea then, I've hear of asus laptops having issues with wireless but wired is new to me
[19:37] <yomomma> Bear-Lt: how do u know u r connected?
[19:37] <JonathanEllis> ikonia:  I cant even start ubuntu properly on one screen now.
[19:38] <doem> truecrypt returns "(..) create ioctl failed: Device or resource busy (..)" after entering the right password.. anyone an idea?
[19:38] <ahab> anyone have (successful) experience with monit on a recent release?
[19:39] <JonathanEllis> jonathanellis: testing sound - please ignore
[19:39] <ahab> cant browser to localhost:2812.  conf is good
[19:39] <JonathanEllis> jonathanellis: testing - please ignore
[19:39] <DrX> ejer: the link you sent says that samba permissions cannot override kernel permissions, so shouldn't the chmod -R 777 /sambashare followed by chmod 700 /sambashare do the trick?
[19:40] <JonathanEllis> ! Help @ JonathanEllis
[19:40] <s000501> Can't resolve Windows hostnames since UFW firewall is enabled (application profile Samba is enabled), any ideas?
[19:40] <JonathanEllis> !windows @jonathanellis
[19:40] <JonathanEllis> !windows
[19:40] <JonathanEllis> !windows >JonathanEllis
[19:41] <LFSrulz2> s000501: in a very small lan you might put the host names into /etc/hosts
[19:41] <ejer> DrX: as long as you precreate the dirs for everyone, no one will be able to create a dir in root dir... this is something that will need testing too
[19:41] <s000501> LDSrulz2: the host names are dynamic, also notebooks
[19:41] <Finn_> Anyone know if there exists a good clean way to convert .bin -installers to .deb? I don't wanna pollute my system...
[19:41] <LFSrulz2> s000501: server running smb? let it act as wins
[19:42] <s000501> without UFW everyting works fine (nmblookup «hostname» or "wins" in /etc/nsswitch.conf and ping)
[19:42] <lianimator2> does anyone know how to fix the green video in skype? webcam: zc0301
[19:42] <lianimator2> works fine in cheese!
[19:42] <ahab> anyone wise about getting monit running?  can't browse to localhost:2812
[19:42] <s000501> LFSrulz2: enabling as wins? in /etc/samba/smb.conf and then... for the Windows pc's?
[19:43] <Bear-Lt> My ifconfig and route outputs: http://pastebin.com/d3c2633bb
[19:43] <Bear-Lt> I'm writing through the gateway PC. The Acer Aspire One laptop is connected directly into this one. When I connect the same cable with the same parameters to another PC network works just great.
[19:43] <the_dark_warrio> My laptop has a sound volume controler but it is controlling another sound, not the Master sound. How do I make the volume control the Master volume?
[19:43] <hylje> network fails to use nameservers, /etc/resolv.conf has correct entries but network apps timeout on name resolving. the same networks work for other boxes.
[19:43] <ejer> lianimator2: if they have option to use v4l2 use that
[19:43] <daf_> Anyone using Mac4lin v1.0
[19:43] <daf_> I'm missing the suspend icon. Anyone know what it is called?
[19:44] <Pizarro2> Isn't there anything more customizable than xchat?
[19:44] <lianimator2> ejer: there's only one option in skype.
[19:44] <Petengy> hi to all
[19:44] <LFSrulz2> s000501: this is rtfm to me, too. i think its related to master browser election.
[19:45] <s000501> LFSrulz2: okay; no way to open the (variable) ports to receive bcast queries
[19:46] <LFSrulz2> s000501: if this was a question, then i am clueless. sry
[19:46] <s000501> LFSrulz2: no prblm, tnx!
[19:47] <NicEXE> I recently installed 4GB of RAM on my system. I am on Ubuntu 8.10 64 bit but It can only see up to 3.2 GB of RAM (my mobo supports up to 16 GB of RAM)
[19:47] <Petengy> someone could suggest me a very very simple way to remote control an Ubuntu desktop on internet behind a dynamic IP address ???
[19:48] <elwaywitvac> Petengy: dynamic as in dhcp or your isp assigns a random one?
[19:48] <ejer> Petengy: you will need to forward a port in your router, or you could try with http://hamachi.cc - but short answer is there is no easy easy way
[19:48] <andersonx> sudo rm -f /
[19:48] <LFSrulz2> Petengy: port forward on your router? to "find" your ip from outside, you could use a dyndns service
[19:48] <andersonx> sudo rm -f /
[19:49] <the_dark_warrio> My laptop's volume button is changing the volume of something which is not the Master volume... How do I change it to control the master volume???
[19:49] <ejer> buzz off andersonx
[19:49] <DrX> ejer: y, i created the root directory as user root so that should be ok.  but, when i try to restore files from an XP system I'm either getting no files and no errors (when user root) or I'm getting about 1/3 of the files and file permission error unable to write file as the force = user
[19:49] <Petengy> elwaywitvac: I suppose my isp assings random IP, it changes every second
[19:49] <NicEXE> I recently installed 4GB of RAM on my system. I am on Ubuntu 8.10 64 bit but It can only see up to 3.2 GB of RAM (my mobo supports up to 16 GB of RAM)
[19:49] <DrX> ejer: (when I'm the force user)
[19:49] <ejer> DrX: check the perms on files that error
[19:49] <n8tuser> Petengy-> no it does not change every second
[19:50] <XLV> NicEXE, check the bios for any option about >4GB mem remapping
[19:50] <XLV> NicEXE, also make sure you installed 64bit ubuntu
[19:50] <the_dark_warrio> It was working until I right clicked the volume icon > Preferences and selected Beep to low the beep sound. After that I changed to the Master again and it's not working...
[19:50] <ejer> Petengy: i doubt very much your IP changes that often
[19:50] <elwaywitvac> Petengy: every second seems extreme, but most of the other comments are right.  DynDNS is a good/free way to give a URL to your connection
[19:51] <brandon__> ok look i reallyreally really need help with my acer aspire 6920 imusing oss sound drivers but they suck so i need some way of using alsa if thats possible cuz i heard it was please help me please!!!!!!!!! pst me if you can get alsa working on my laptop please
[19:51] <DrX> ejer: how?  the files aren't making on to the Linux system
[19:51] <Bear-Lt> Hello! I'm having a networking issue with my Asus Aspire One (A110L) and Ubuntu 8.04 installed on it: I can't ping the gateway. I'm using correct parameters for my NIC, everything seems to set up as it belong. Still, on pinging I get the "Destinantion Host Unreachable" message... Before Ubuntu I had Linpus Linux and with those parameters I could ping the gateway. I'm wired. My ifconfig and route outputs: http://pastebin.com/d3c2633bb
[19:51] <Bear-Lt> I'm writing through the gateway PC. The Acer Aspire One laptop is connected directly into this one. When I connect the same cable with the same parameters to another PC network works just great.
[19:51] <ejer> the_dark_warrio: you can change this in system>prefs>sound
[19:51] <Petengy> elwaywitvac: Tnx a lot :)
[19:51] <andersonx> sudo rm -f /
[19:51] <andersonx> :D
[19:51] <ejer> someone kick andersonx please?
[19:51] <n8tuser> Bear-Lt-> connected directly with a null cable? or via a hub?
[19:51] <IdleOne> andersonx, dont!
[19:52] <cdeszaq1> How can I make apache ignore the case of a URL?
[19:52] <brandon__> ok look i reallyreally really need help with my acer aspire 6920 imusing oss sound drivers but they suck so i need some way of using alsa if thats possible cuz i heard it was please help me please!!!!!!!!! pst me if you can get alsa working on my laptop please
[19:52] <andersonx> thanks
[19:52] <dt84> need help: VLC took over my "Places" shortcuts! opening any of the folders from the "places" menu opens VLC for some reason. this happened since I've upgraded to 8.10
[19:52] <Bear-Lt> Connected directly via Null cable.
[19:52] <andersonx> i'm exit from this IRC Network
[19:52] <the_dark_warrio> ejer: Where? I tried changing somethings with no success
[19:52] <n8tuser> Bear-Lt-> did you manipulate your route table yourself? where did this bebebe  came from?
[19:52] <brandon__> ok look i reallyreally really need help with my acer aspire 6920 imusing oss sound drivers but they suck so i need some way of using alsa if thats possible cuz i heard it was please help me please!!!!!!!!! pst me if you can get alsa working on my laptop please
[19:52] <n8tuser> !who | Bear-Lt
[19:53] <thiebaude> !patience
[19:53] <ejer> first page the_dark_warrio "slect the device and tracks to control with keyboard":
[19:53] <dangit> o...k i just updated pidgin and i'm getting messages from complete strangers...how do i turn this off? :|
[19:53] <Bear-Lt> Yes. I've added "bebebe".
[19:53] <dangit> (over msn protocol)
[19:53] <the_dark_warrio> ejer: oh... I must be blind... thanks
[19:53] <elwaywitvac> dangit: I'm pretty sure that has nothing to do with pidgin unless there is some MSN feature in other clients to block unknowns
[19:53] <Bear-Lt> !n8user any ideas?
[19:53] <IdleOne> mneptok, that ban should be set network wide
[19:54] <n8tuser> Bear-Lt-> prefix your responses with my nick or i will not respond to you
[19:54] <mneptok> IdleOne: i have no o: line
[19:54] <dangit> elwaywitvac, well...i have been using pidgin for ages, never had this before, i used vista for 2 days in september and the msn client there had it....now i'm having it in the new pidgin as well
[19:54] <brandon__> ok look i reallyreally really need help with my acer aspire 6920 imusing oss sound drivers but they suck so i need some way of using alsa if thats possible cuz i heard it was please help me please!!!!!!!!! pst me if you can get alsa working on my laptop please
[19:54] <IdleOne> mneptok, you know people who do :)
[19:54] <enquest> how doe "_get_next_or_previous_in_order" work?
[19:54] <ejer> Bear-Lt: you are referencing 2 dif network devices, eth0 and eth1 in your routing table
[19:55] <Jagged> dangit: I've noticed the same thing as well. :shrug:
[19:55] <ejer> Bear-Lt: if you use dhcp, you do not need to do anything extra usually
[19:55] <elwaywitvac> dangit: right, but it sounds like when my mom upgrading her phone and got more spam text messaging.  I don't know, I never use MSN
[19:55] <dangit> Jagged, it is...very...annoying :|
[19:55] <IdleOne> !sound > brandon__
[19:55] <LFSrulz2> Bear-Lt: you can ping your own ip?
[19:55] <dangit> elwaywitvac, i only used it once in like 3 years
[19:55] <DrX> ejer: I think I found something that works, want to know?
[19:55] <userathei> afternoon all
[19:56] <elwaywitvac> dangit: check under tools/privacy
[19:56] <ejer> DrX: if you want :)
[19:56] <elwaywitvac> dangit: there may be an option to block everyone you don't know for MSN like there is for AIM
[19:56] <DrX> ejer: i made the force user an administrator on the XP box and the file permissions errors went away.  I
[19:56] <DrX> ejer: I'll just undo that after the restore...
[19:57] <Jagged> elwaywitvac: You are correct
[19:57] <Jagged> dangit: follow elwaywitvac's suggestions Tools->Privacy
[19:57] <Bear-Lt> I'm not using DHCP. I can ping my own adress.
[19:57] <poliverd> pierdolcie sie huje
[19:57] <poliverd> :d
[19:57] <DrX> ejer: there's just 1 error remaining:  "Warning:  unable to set the short 8.3 name for (path to file)".  Is there a workaround and will it matter?
[19:57] <poliverd> ubuntu the best!!!!!!!!!
[19:57] <poliverd> :D
[19:57] <dangit> Jagged, hmm, can't seem to find that?
[19:57] <dangit> Jagged, o wait hehe
[19:58] <dangit> Jagged, elwaywitvac thanks guys, that did it i think :>
[19:58] <bmunger> what is the best way to setup a local repo for i386 and x86_64 for selected versions of ubuntu/kubuntu..etc
[19:58] <ejer> Bear-Lt: you have 192.168.0.0 with eth1 as the NIC, rest are eth0, this cannot work
[19:58] <sudobash> I would really like to know what my friends background is not showing up
[19:58] <sudobash> it will only show solid colors
[19:59] <wolvbite> Hey all,  I installed ubuntu / on a software raid 1.  I'm having problems now with samba shares on directories created under root.  how should I tell fstab to mount / on the raid1
[19:59] <Bear-Lt> !Ejer: I've made a mistake rewriting.
[19:59] <dangit> hmm, where can i find "flash" for ubuntu 64 bit?
[19:59] <dangit> i can't seem to find it in repo?
[19:59] <bimberi> !info falcon | bmunger
[19:59] <LFSrulz2> Bear-Lt: whats the ip of bebebe?
[19:59] <ikonia> wolvbite: is this fffakeraid or linux software raid
[19:59] <Slart> dangit: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[19:59] <sudobash> i have looked all over gconf
[19:59] <Bear-Lt> 192.168.0.1
[19:59] <wolvbite> Ikonia: software raid 1
[19:59] <sudobash> and none of the setting I change seem to do anything
[19:59] <jolynn> I'm having trouble getting my sound to work. I just installed ubuntu yesterday. Can anyone help me? Feel free to PM me if that would be easier.
[19:59] <ikonia> wolvbite: linux software raid
[19:59] <dangit> Slart, thanks, having a look
[19:59] <Slart> dangit: if you want the real 64-bit flash you'll have to download it from adobe yourself, it isn't packaged yet and still i beta
[20:00] <ikonia> wolvbite: as in mdadm ?
[20:00] <dios_mio> this room has 1500 people but #cod.wars on Quakenet has 1900 people!
[20:00] <wolvbite> Ikonia yes
[20:00] <dangit> Slart, o
[20:00] <dios_mio> #cod4.wars I mean
[20:00] <LFSrulz2> Bear-Lt: this really doesnt sound good... you use the same subnet on two interfaces
[20:00] <ikonia> wolvbite: what happens when you mount it ?
[20:00] <Pelo> sudobash, what kind of background is it , I just came in I didn't see the beginning
[20:00] <dangit> is gnash 64 bit and up to the task these days?
[20:00] <ikonia> dios_mio: advertise elsewhere
[20:00] <ikonia> dios_mio: this is a support channel
[20:00] <Slart> dangit: don't know and no
[20:00] <dios_mio> ikonia, I am not advertising
[20:00] <Bear-Lt> !	LFSrulz2 yes
[20:00] <dios_mio> ikonia, it is a fun fact
[20:00] <jolynn> Can anyone help me with my sound problem??
[20:00] <DasEi> ﻿jolynn: what says lspci about audio ?
[20:00] <LFSrulz2> Bear-Lt: bring down eth1: ifconfig eth1 down
[20:01] <ikonia> dios_mio: it's offtopic here
[20:01] <sudobash> just a normal jpg... Right now all it will display is black or solid colors... but he says it will show it at startup and then goes away real quick
[20:01] <Pelo> Bear-Lt, stop putting exclamation marks at the start of your sentences,  they trigger the bot needlessly
[20:01] <Slart> dios_mio: so far, that's all you've done.. or was there an ubuntu support question hidden somewhere in that?
[20:01] <dios_mio> ikonia ok whatever
[20:01] <Jagged> Bear-Lt: there is no need for the ! preceeding names
[20:01] <dios_mio> slart, ok ok
[20:01] <jolynn> What dasei?
[20:01] <wolvbite> everything mounts fine.  its just when I create a directory to share for samba the users have permission problems when creating subdirectories and files
[20:01] <Bodsda> LFSrulz2, i though it was   sudo ifdown eth1 ??
[20:01] <DasEi> ﻿jolynn: pm me
[20:01] <bimberi> bmunger: Note that falcon is for your own packages.  Otherwise there's things like apt-cacher-ng
[20:01] <sudobash> its 8.10 and I clicked disable desktop background during Remote Desktop Viewing in System-Pref-Remote Desktop
[20:01] <ikonia> wolvbite: are your clients windows ?
[20:01] <LFSrulz2> Bodsda: Bear-Lt: it is probably sudo ifconfig, sry
[20:01] <Pelo> sudobash, if you just want a solid colour desktop that is easy enough
[20:01] <dek> since I upgraded to KDE4 and I want to use KNode, I get "502 Permission denied" error. Any fix?
[20:01] <sudobash> no
[20:02] <sudobash> it will only show solid colors
[20:02] <wolvbite> nope 1 mac client on linux client
[20:02] <sudobash> it will not show any images
[20:02] <sudobash> at all
[20:02] <sudobash> wallpaper
[20:02] <Pelo> sudobash, can you put up the image on imageshack so I can have a look at it , see what might be the problem
[20:02] <bmunger> bimberi: i was looking for a apt mirror for local computers.. i was looking into apt-mirror but i dont know if that will work
[20:02] <ikonia> wolvbite: wrotten timing, I have to pop out. Check your clients usersnames map to a unix level useracccount, look at your smb.conf at the share premissions
[20:02] <macjason0> wow 8.10 rocks
[20:02] <macjason0> wirless everything
[20:02] <sudobash> not even the Ubuntu Wallpaper will show up
[20:02] <Bodsda> LFSrulz2, sudo ifconfig?
[20:02] <sudobash> the new 8.10 wallpaper wont even come up
[20:03] <Pelo> sudobash, do you have compiz enabled by anychance ? there is a wallpaper thingy in there that might be overrissind the regular wallpaper applet in gnome
[20:03] <Havsalt> Anyone using openbox w/ubuntu?
[20:03] <LFSrulz2> Bodsda: you confuse me now *g* what??
[20:03] <wolvbite> ok.   i did change them to 777 and was able to write a directory but then it disappears
[20:03] <Bear-Lt> I've made it. Bring the eth0 down (there are no eth1, I've made a mistake while rewriting output)
[20:03] <bimberi> bmunger: there's apt-cacher-ng, apt-cacher and apt-proxy which all do similar things.
[20:03] <brandon__> ok look i reallyreally really need help with my acer aspire 6920 imusing oss sound drivers but they suck so i need some way of using alsa if thats possible cuz i heard it was please help me please!!!!!!!!! pst me if you can get alsa working on my laptop please
[20:03] <sudobash> yes i have compiz enabled and I have set the wallpaper in that plugin also.. your saying it might have oversized or something?
[20:03] <LFSrulz2> Bear-Lt: congrats!
[20:03] <Bodsda> LFSrulz2, im pretty sure the command for taking a device offline from cli is       sudo ifdown eth1          eth1/device name
[20:04] <Pelo> wolvbite, files and dirs with names starting with a dot are hidden,  if you are not in the view hidden file mode they will disapear
[20:04] <Bear-Lt> LFSrulz2: about what?
[20:04] <sudobash> it was working fine until i disabled for remote desktop
[20:04] <wolvbite> bye all
[20:05] <LFSrulz2> Bodsda: that might be possible too... but ifconfig ethX down does work, also
[20:05] <Pelo> sudobash, override the regular gnome wallpaper changer,  disable the wall paper stuff in compiz , seewhat happens,  actualy turn off compiz completely to test , that will be easier ,  you can ask more about this after in #compiz
[20:05] <Bodsda> LFSrulz2, ok, sorry, my mistake
[20:05] <LFSrulz2> Bear-Lt: the congrats? i thought you solved your problem? uhmm...?
[20:05] <sudobash> how do i override the regular gnome wallpaper change?
[20:05] <sudobash> r
[20:06] <Bear-Lt> LFSrulz2: I'm using one NIC on my laptop. It's integrated RTL8101E ethernet card.
[20:06] <Pelo> sudobash, you don't , compiz will take over if the wallpaper pluggin is enabled in there
[20:06] <sudobash> i turned appearance options to none
[20:07] <sudobash> still no wallpaper
[20:07] <Pelo> sudobash, ask in #compiz, see if they know
[20:09] <Bear-Lt> LFSrulz2: I've bring bring down and bring up eth0 with the parameters and still got nothing. I still get "Destination host unreachable" (the gateway) message.
[20:09] <brandon__> ok look i reallyreally really need help with my acer aspire 6920 imusing oss sound drivers but they suck so i need some way of using alsa if thats possible cuz i heard it was please help me please!!!!!!!!! pst me if you can get alsa working on my laptop please
[20:09] <the_real_player1> hi
[20:10] <Pelo> brandon__, go to menu > system  > prefs > sound ( might be in admin ) , second tab , you can select which driver to use
[20:10] <n8tuser> Bear-Lt-> post on pastebin your interfaces file and route -n  results, plus /etc/resolv.conf
[20:11] <Entied> Why does ubuntu install by default all kind of remote desktop things?
[20:11] <Bear-Lt> n8tuser: http://pastebin.com/d4b9883f2
[20:11] <the_real_player1> Ubuntu 8.04 hardy: sound control : I cant seem to turn off mix option on sound control, and its giving me a loud insopurtable feedback noise, any ideas?
[20:11] <hardwired> 'llo. I am trying to get a startup script to work that is started only after a specific other startup script (from init.d). I matched the Required-Start: line from my script with the Provides: line from the dependency, but that doesn't seem to have an effect?
[20:11] <Bear-Lt> n8tuser: resolv.conf incoming.
[20:11] <n8tuser> Bear-Lt-> post on pastebin your interfaces file  ?
[20:12] <hardwired> oooh, I think I forgot the $
[20:12] <hardwired> checking
[20:13] <the_real_player1> by the way, I'm using soundblaster 5.1 alsa mixer
[20:13] <dt84> anyone? that's a serious VLC problem in ubuntu 8.10 :-/
[20:13] <Bear-Lt> n8tuser: where should I get iterfaces file?
[20:13] <n8tuser> Bear-Lt-> /etc/network/interfaces
[20:14] <sudobash> wait why would it be a Compiz thing if I disabled compiz and it still is not showing wallpaper?
[20:14] <zsquareplusc> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ is offline? the search form is displayed but the search itself times out
[20:14] <the_real_player1> and another thing, I've been installing ubuntu in a lot of computers latelly and I have trouble accessing repositories, hash mismatch
[20:15] <sudobash> i will even remove compiz and reinstall it
[20:15] <Stooge> do  u love bass?
[20:15] <ay^> no
[20:16] <Stooge> how old are u ay^?
[20:16] <Bear-Lt> n8tuser: http://pastebin.com/d5e563423
[20:16] <thiebaude> !topic
[20:16] <ay^> Stooge: old enough to not love bass
[20:16] <Stooge> i guessed that :)
[20:16] <retro_> Is realtime kernel aviable for 8.10 yet ?
[20:17] <Dark_Fire> Hello. How do I find out what architeture my processor is? Currently running Ubuntu 8.04 and want to download 8.10, but not sure if its a 64 or a 32 bit processor?
[20:17] <zsquareplusc> Dark_Fire: uname -a and cat /proc/cpuinfo
[20:17] <the_real_player1> and yet another thing, I had a lot of trouble last week over a part of my network with a connection comming from the HP printer to the web server, next thing I know, microsofr is on the phone asking how many computers do we have and if they were all licenced...
[20:18] <n8tuser> Bear-Lt-> you dont have a gateway per the results of  route -n
[20:18] <sudobash> so do settings that get changed in gconf-editor go into effect immediately or right after it closes?
[20:18] <Bear-Lt> n8tuser: so what should I do?
[20:18] <Dark_Fire> zsquareplusc, thanks so much! Sec, gonne try it :)
[20:19] <the_real_player1> I answered we used mostly linux, and the girl said: and do you have the licences? to wich i answered: its GPL, and she hung up
[20:19] <Bear-Lt> n8tuser: route (without -n atrribute I get the gateway)
[20:19] <n8tuser> Bear-Lt-> how is this connected to the router?
[20:19] <n8tuser> Bear-Lt-> better yet, can you re-explain your network layout?
[20:19] <LFSrulz2> Bear-Lt: you dont have a default route in your routing table according to your paste. try "sudo route add default gw <ip-of-gateway>"
[20:19] <erUSUL> Dark_Fire: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep --color ' lm '
[20:20] <Bear-Lt> n8tuser: no, I don't get it. It's connected not to the router. It's connected to the main PC, which is connecten to ISP's hub.
[20:20] <LFSrulz2> Bear-Lt: n8tuser: so this is as first step about to get the two pcs connected
[20:21] <wos> i just connected a tv tuner. can anyone tell me how to test if ubuntu recognizes it?
[20:21] <n8tuser> Bear-Lt-> this is the pc connected to your gateway(anotherpc) ?
[20:21] <zsquareplusc> wos: dmesg is your friend
[20:21] <zsquareplusc> wos: analog or dvb?
[20:21] <wos> dvb
[20:21] <n8tuser> Bear-Lt-> you can elaboarte on your network layout, the name of the hosts?
[20:21] <Bear-Lt> n8tuser: yes. The laptop with Ubuntu and no network working is connected to the main PC I'm writing from.
[20:21] <Edward123> hey
[20:22] <wos> zsquareplusc, dvb
[20:22] <Edward123> anybody know of a tool to impose hard subs on a .avi file based on an SRT file?
[20:22] <zx80user> I am having some serious diff with adding a second NIC: Ethernet controller: National Semiconductor Corporation DP83815 (MacPhyter) Ethernet Controller which seems to bomb out with  eth1: DSPCFG accepted after 0 usec followed by ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready - is this my config or the hardware? (I am on up to date Intrepid)
[20:22] <sudobash> so do settings that get changed in gconf-editor go into effect immediately or right after it closes?
[20:22] <platius> wos lshw -C multimedia
[20:22] <nintendork32> I'm wanting to install grub on another installation of ubuntu. should i copy the /boot/ folder from this PC and do the recovery with the find /boot/grub/stage1 stuff?
[20:22] <n8tuser> Bear-Lt-> which nic card on the gateway is this ubuntu connected to? what is its ip address?
[20:22] <Bear-Lt> n8tuser: I don't understand what you're asking but as I guess you'd like to know: Zilitonas (the laptop) -> Bebebe (the main PC) -> ISP.
[20:23] <sexcopter> With the network-manager applet, I have a static ip set up, but it still defaults to "Auto eth0". Can i make the new config the default without deleting "Auto eth0"?
[20:23] <n8tuser> Bear-Lt-> what is the ip address of bebebe towards zilitonas?  eth0?
[20:23] <zsquareplusc> wos: check out me-tv (package)
[20:23] <Bear-Lt> n8tuser: It's connected to the second (eth1). It's IP adress is 192.168.0.1
[20:23] <khirr> Hello, i have not found inittab in ubuntu, what can i do   to start in 3 mode?
[20:23] <mod_cure> i use to be able to get on the internet :(  i have static local ip 192.168.1.102. when i do ifconfig it now also shows peth0 along woth etho, hmm
[20:24] <Bear-Lt> n8tuser: Zilitonas IP adress is 192.168.0.2
[20:24] <LFSrulz2> Bear-Lt: n8tuser: we want to see something like this: http://pastebin.com/m541b661a
[20:24] <Bear-Lt> n8tuser: Gateway (Bebebe) eth1 IP adress is 192.168.0.1
[20:24] <wos> zsquareplusc, i did, all its doing is a channel scan, does that mean it recognizes the tv adapter?
[20:24] <n8tuser> Bear-Lt-> but zilitonas does not have a gateway, so you need to add the 192.168.0.1 as its gateway
[20:24] <LFSrulz2> Bear-Lt: heheh... i probably guessed the setup
[20:25] <LFSrulz2> n8tuser: zili cannot even ping bebebe
[20:25] <zsquareplusc> wos: i think so. i've only set up once, a long time ago
[20:25] <Bear-Lt> LFSrulz2: n8tuser: yes. LFSrulz2 guessed it.
[20:25] <wos> its taking forever to scan for channels and cant find any
[20:25] <n8tuser> LFSrulz2-> you know why it can not ping correct?  because it aint got a gateway so it will not find a way to get to bebebe
[20:26] <n8tuser> Bear-Lt-> im not guessin, i know what you need done
[20:26] <jolynn> Can someone help me with my sound? I've taken a few steps to fix it, but they didn't work. PM if needed.
[20:26] <LFSrulz2> n8tuser: what about the route to 192.168.x.x? (i am not sure, if this shouldnt be enough, its the wanted subnet)
[20:26] <sudobash> does anyone have a fix to force desktop background?
[20:26] <nintendork32> I'm wanting to install grub on another installation of ubuntu. should i copy the /boot/ folder from this PC and do the recovery with the find /boot/grub/stage1 stuff?
[20:26] <Bear-Lt> n8tuser: what should I do?
[20:26] <DB42> how do i extract HTTP data from a tcpdump ?
[20:26] <zx80user> jolynn what is the issue?
[20:26] <n8tuser> Bear-Lt-> but zilitonas does not have a gateway, so you need to add the 192.168.0.1 as its gateway
[20:27] <zsquareplusc> DB42: load the file in wireshark?
[20:27] <Bear-Lt> n8tuser: I've added it.
[20:27] <jolynn> I don't have any sound whatsoever. The alsa thing is all updated, and i've done the reboot, but nothing.
[20:27] <DB42> zsquareplusc: in console
[20:27] <Dark_Fire> zsquareplusc, erUSUL, Thanks so much. I got i686 from uname and "clflush size : 64" from the other one. does this mean its a 64bit?
[20:27] <LFSrulz2> Bear-Lt: sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.1
[20:27] <Bear-Lt> n8tuser: still no difference
[20:27] <tspike> how do I look at the documentation contained in a doc package (e.g. libasio-doc) ?
[20:27] <n8tuser> Bear-Lt-> if you have added it,  paste the results of route -n   again for  zilitonas
[20:27] <Bear-Lt> LFSrulz2: Done it. Still no difference.
[20:27] <virus5> HELLO!
[20:27] <zx80user> jolynn, what is your setup, what does lspci say? And have you had sound with this machine before?
[20:27] <erUSUL> Dark_Fire: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep --color ' lm ' does that command returns a red lm in a list of cpu flags ??
[20:27] <nintendork32> I'm wanting to install grub on another installation of ubuntu. should i copy the /boot/ folder from this PC and do the recovery with the find /boot/grub/stage1 stuff?
[20:27] <dcider> Bear-Lt: have a look at http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html
[20:28] <jolynn> yes, i've sound before. is it ok if i PM you with my setup?
[20:28] <n8tuser> Bear-Lt-> to confirm what you told us, paste your  ifconfig  of your gateway so we can compare it
[20:28] <erUSUL> Dark_Fire: if that's the sase then the cpu supports lm == long mode == 64 bits
[20:28] <zsquareplusc> Dark_Fire: uname tells you what you are running no. so its a 32 bit system. the cpuinfo part tells youif its 64 bit compatible (depending on CPU name/type)
[20:28] <zx80user> jolynn go ahead
[20:28] <barlavento>  do you know how to remove the mix check mark from gnome sound pannel?
[20:28] <Casperov> any1 know y my computer always starts up with the sound muted?
[20:29] <Bear-Lt> LFSrulz2: n8tuser: http://pastebin.com/d20bef404
[20:29] <tspike> anyone?
[20:29] <wos> i just connected a tv tuner. can anyone tell me how to test if ubuntu recognizes it?
[20:29] <Dark_Fire> erUSUL, does that command returns a red lm in a list of cpu flags ?? Yes it does
[20:30] <mod_cure> i use to be able to get on the internet :(  i have static local ip 192.168.1.102. when i do ifconfig it now also shows peth0 along woth etho, hmm :(
[20:30] <tux91> What's default archiver called in ubuntu?
[20:30] <erUSUL> Dark_Fire: then the cpu supports 64 bits (amd64)
[20:30] <erUSUL> tux91: file-roller
[20:30] <tux91> erUSUL: thx
[20:30] <DasEi> ﻿wos:lspci && lshw          or install tvtime
[20:30] <Dark_Fire> its a intel processor, not a amd
[20:30] <platius> wos sudo lshw -C multimedia
[20:30] <nintendork32> I'm wanting to install grub on another installation of ubuntu. should i copy the /boot/ folder from this PC and do the recovery with the find /boot/grub/stage1 stuff?
[20:30] <erUSUL> Dark_Fire: well linux kernel developers choosed the name for the architecture not me ;P
[20:31] <n8tuser> Bear-Lt-> you said you were using a null cable between your  zilitonas and bebebe?  also you need to paste bebebe  ifconfig -a  results
[20:31] <DB42> how do i extract HTTP data from a tcpdump ?
[20:31] <erUSUL> Dark_Fire: if the lm flag is there then you can choose the 64 bit version of ubuntu if ypu want to
[20:31] <Static--> is there a way to make the GDM into your lock screen, currently the lock theme isnt even close to whats enabled
[20:31] <Dark_Fire> o ok, hehe. So I can download the 64 bit one. awesome. Thanks so much!
[20:31] <MaT-dg> how can I do advanced filesharing? (Folder A for everyone, Folder B with pass 'xxx', folder C with pass 'yyy',...etc)
[20:31] <n8tuser> Bear-Lt-> and bebebe's   route -n results too,, label them when you paste so its easier to compare
[20:32] <forcumang> with wine, does MSN Messenger or 3d directx games run?
[20:32] <zx80user> I am having some serious diff with adding a second NIC: Ethernet controller: National Semiconductor Corporation DP83815 (MacPhyter) Ethernet Controller which seems to bomb out with  eth1: DSPCFG accepted after 0 usec followed by ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready - is this my config or the hardware? (I am on up to date Intrepid)
[20:32] <forcumang> of course my gfx card is fine
[20:32] <Bear-Lt> n8tuser: LFSrulz2: http://pastebin.com/dcb833df
[20:32] <jae686> how can i install a .deb from the command line ? dpkg does not appear to handle dependecines
[20:32] <khirr> how can i restart in console mode in ubuntu?
[20:32] <LFSrulz2> n8tuser: i know of situations, where the routing looks correct, but it still wont work. didnt find a pattern to this yet. Bear might have the same problem, that i sometimes have and solve by playing around, until it works out. Any idea, what else can fail, besides broken hardware/drivers?
[20:33] <forcumang> broken hardware doesn't make a happy man
[20:33] <forcumang> unless you're rich and it doesn't matter.
[20:33] <Bear-Lt> n8tuser: LFSrulz2: http://pastebin.com/dafbd3a8
[20:33] <n8tuser> Bear-Lt-> have you confirmed your null cable is good? perhaps you can use a hub and just straight cables in between them?
[20:34] <mod_cure> i cant ping anything on my box now. not sure why i cant connect to the net. anybody help?
[20:34] <LFSrulz2> n8tuser: so you think, too that this all looks good?
[20:34] <Bear-Lt> n8tuser: yes, it's good. Anoter PC works fine with same cable.
[20:34] <nintendork32> I'm wanting to install grub on another installation of ubuntu. should i copy the /boot/ folder from this PC and do the recovery with the find /boot/grub/stage1 stuff?
[20:35] <Bear-Lt> n8tuser: LFSrulz2: tried to update drivers. Still no network.
[20:35] <n8tuser> LFSrulz2-> im still checking
[20:35] <LFSrulz2> Bear-Lt: just to be sure: did you reboot already?
[20:35] <Bear-Lt> LFSrulz2: yes. About 20 times.
[20:35] <jokkaa> !wine
[20:35] <MaT-dg> forcumang: depends on the game, some work fine (I can play HL2) others work but have small bugs or need some advanced tweaking and some don't work at all
[20:35] <forcumang> way less gfx than hl2
[20:35] <Bear-Lt> LFSrulz2: tried even to boot LiveUSB of Ubuntu 8.10
[20:35] <forcumang> and i have a 512mb nvidia
[20:35] <forcumang> so hopefully it works good
[20:36] <Bear-Lt> LFSrulz2: still no difference
[20:36] <LFSrulz2> Bear-Lt: i see. *meditates about bad networks*
[20:36] <forcumang> funny, other people say that about freenode
[20:36] <forcumang> it only depends where you are ;)
[20:36] <LFSrulz2> n8tuser: isnt it right that the tx values show us, that there is in fact traffic going on?
[20:37] <MaT-dg> forcumang: it still depends on the game, HL2 works and some mini-games don't, it's not only the graphics that determine wether the game will run or not
[20:37] <forcumang> MaT-dg: what other factors?
[20:37] <tallyn> Hey everyone, can someone help me to find an older version of some software??
[20:37] <DiningInHell> Hello everyone, I just got my Ubuntu CD, and I'm trying it as a live boot
[20:37] <forcumang> DiningInHell: i'd just go direct install, live cd takes longer to load up :D
[20:38] <n8tuser> LFSrulz2-> traffic that can be directed to anywhere?
[20:38] <DiningInHell> forcumang: hence why I said 'trying'
[20:38] <forcumang> ah
[20:38] <seon> why i see some lines in EVINCE for a "DJVU" document
[20:38] <Bear-Lt> LFSrulz2: n8tuser: thank you both for the help. I'm going to sleep. See you next time! :)
[20:38] <Bear-Lt> n8tuser: LFSrulz2: Thanks again!
[20:39] <forcumang> jeez
[20:39] <forcumang> 1508
[20:39] <n8tuser> Bear-Lt-> id try and change  your netmask on ubuntu with  255.255.255.0
[20:39] <forcumang> big chan
[20:39] <LFSrulz2> n8tuser: eth1 of bebebe shows 270MB, thats a little strange for a crossover cable
[20:39] <MaT-dg> forcumang: I'm not a programmer so I can't really tell but if wine doesn't know how to handle something required by the game/program it will not work that's all
[20:39] <bin1010> how do you get a firewire 400 external hdd to work in ubuntu?  Do I have to install something?
[20:39] <forcumang> MaT-dg: oh ok
[20:39] <forcumang> MaT-dg: thank you for the rundown
[20:39] <tallyn> Hello all, Can someone help me with bluez-utils?
[20:39] <n8tuser> LFSrulz2-> they could also be incompatible speeds..
[20:39] <LFSrulz2> Bear-Lt: keep up the work... you will manage and understand some day *g*
[20:39] <forcumang> lol
[20:39] <n8tuser> Bear-Lt-> okay..laters
[20:39] <DiningInHell> My hard-drive is already partitioned into 2 parts, how would I go about setting up dual-booting if I installed Ubuntu onto the partition that is currently empty?
[20:40] <Bear-Lt> LFSrulz2: huge traffic on eth1 is because I disconnected the cable from laptop, connected to other PC and downloaded 700MB Ubuntu 8.10 ISO file and connected it back.
[20:41] <Entied> What does snmp do?
[20:41] <MaT-dg> forcumang: about msn/live messenger, I doubt it will work with wine
[20:41] <DiningInHell> If i install Ubuntu onto a spare partition I have, how would I set up dual-booting?
[20:42] <LFSrulz2> DiningInHell: its quite automaitc. the installer of ubuntu will install grub into the MBR of your hard disk, thus replacing the MBR boot program of windows and adding a boot entry for your previous os.
[20:42] <cisco80211> hello all....anyone dual booting XP and Ubuntu? if so, would I be able to reinstall a fresh ubuntu over the ubuntu already installed?
[20:42] <MaT-dg> appdb status -> garbage for all versions
[20:42] <MaT-dg> forcumang: appdb status -> garbage for all versions
[20:43] <n8tuser> cisco80211-> yes you may overwrite the existing one
[20:43] <n8tuser> cisco80211-> requires reformatting though
[20:43] <DiningInHell> LFSrulz2: I just don't want to end up with all of my documents and programs gone, you see. so thanks
[20:43] <LFSrulz2> DiningInHell: its always a good idea to make backup before tweaking your system.
[20:43] <forcumang> MaT-dg: hm?
[20:43] <forcumang> all versions of what?
[20:43] <Static--> is there a way to make the GDM into your lock screen, currently the lock theme isnt even close to whats enabled
[20:44] <bin1010> anyone using drobo with ubuntu out there?
[20:44] <cisco80211> n8tuser-> do a manual partitioning..? and delete all Linux partitions?
[20:44] <MaT-dg> forcumang: all versions of msn/live messenger
[20:44] <forcumang> oh, ok
[20:44] <DiningInHell> LFSrulz2: one more quick one, if I wanted to install Ubuntu onto a second partition, should I start the install from within Windows, or at start-up?
[20:44] <LFSrulz2> DiningInHell: but normally, it wont break your system only under rare cicumstances.
[20:44] <forcumang> wine is really cool
[20:44] <n8tuser> cisco80211-> no need to delete it, just select it and you have to select format the partition
[20:44] <MaT-dg> forcumang: there are alternatives for msn/live messenger though
[20:44] <LFSrulz2> DiningInHell: i suggest you boot ubuntu and install
[20:45] <forcumang> MaT-dg: yes, i use pidgin, i was just wondering if its possible to install it
[20:45] <forcumang> since msn messenger is really windows based
[20:45] <Static--> wine sucks use crossover
[20:45] <DiningInHell> LFSrulz2: I'm already in Ubuntu, so I just use the shortcut on the desktop? Thanks much, mate
[20:45] <LFSrulz2> DiningInHell: have fun with your new toy
[20:45] <forcumang> Static--: reason that wine sucks?
[20:45] <DiningInHell> Bye everyone, time to install properly :)
[20:45] <MaT-dg> forcumang: that's the problem, it is TO windows based to work with wine :P
[20:45] <Static--> compared to crossover it does
[20:45] <forcumang> MaT-dg: yeah thats what i was thinking
[20:45] <forcumang> Static--
[20:46] <forcumang> i asked the reason it sucks
[20:46] <sudobash> im about to use windowmaker's wmsetbg to force a background image
[20:46] <FloodBot1> forcumang: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:46] <forcumang> not a comparison
[20:46] <djungelkraem> ipod touch video encoding
[20:46] <djungelkraem> + 8.10 intrepid ibex
[20:46] <tallyn> Hello all, Can someone help me with bluez-utils?
[20:46] <forcumang> Static--: do you have any real reason that wine sucks?
[20:46] <LFSrulz2> DiningInHell: nevertheless, make BACKUP first *g* always make backup. There is two kinds of persons: those who never, and those who already lost data. the latter kind does backup regurarily, the first kind does never *g*
[20:46] <MaT-dg> forcumang: crossover is specialized for gaming
[20:46] <Static--> yeah
[20:46] <forcumang> i see i see
[20:46] <MaT-dg> forcumang: it's not free however
[20:47] <Static--> crossover does a much better job
[20:47] <forcumang> i see.
[20:47] <forcumang> oh well
[20:47] <Static--> thats why i think wine sucks
[20:47] <forcumang> you get what you pay for.
[20:47] <forcumang> ^^
[20:47] <FloodBot1> forcumang: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:47] <Static--> well
[20:47] <forcumang> alright floodbot, relax.
[20:47] <Static--> codeweavers gave it out for free
[20:47] <Static--> i have the pkg right here
[20:47] <forcumang> :o
[20:47] <LFSrulz2> !offtopic
[20:47] <jortiz> hello, i need some help at abuntu 64 bits  about
[20:47] <MaT-dg> Static--: I know someone who can run a game with wine but not with crossover so it doesn't always suck ;)
[20:48] <Static--> maybe not always
[20:48] <Static--> but it runs 99% of things much smoother
[20:48] <_cb> I used to have sound. Now I don't. Other users do. My system->preferences->Sound and volume control are as that of other users. Any ideas?
[20:48] <Netcowboy> hello here ,my dell laptop was workn jus fine minues ago I they screan jus go black and I get error message like it couldn't detect your grafic card or somthing  and we gona use low resoultion or somthing i'ts look strange now what may probably cause that ?
[20:48] <forcumang> Static--: is there still a dlink for that free ver from codeweavers?
[20:48] <forcumang> pkg?
[20:48] <Netcowboy> minutes *
[20:48] <tallyn> Hello all, Can someone help me with bluez-utils?
[20:48] <Static--> its a .sh
[20:48] <forcumang> ic
[20:48] <jortiz> can I intall ubuntu  8.10 AMG 64 bit version on Intel core 2 Duo 64 bits?
[20:48] <Static--> but no it was free for 1 day
[20:49] <forcumang> gah
[20:49] <LFSrulz2> Netcowboy: what was the last thing you remember you did, before that happened?
[20:49] <jortiz> AMD 64 bits version sorry
[20:49] <Static--> i may upload it for you
[20:49] <zsquareplusc> jortiz: yes
[20:49] <mod_cure> can somebody help me get on the internet. so odd, it use to work. now i cant ping out of the local network
[20:49] <forcumang> that would be great
[20:49] <forcumang> thanks a lot.
[20:49] <Netcowboy> LFSrulz2,  iwas  readn some articles on net ( firefox )
[20:49] <MaT-dg> Static--: do u know if crossover works with 64bit ubuntu?
[20:49] <n8tuser> mod_cure-> describe your network layout
[20:49] <MaT-dg> forcumang: I've got a copy of that free .sh ;)
[20:49] <Static--> not 100% sure, check the website
[20:49] <forcumang> MaT-dg: static is uploading it, np
[20:49] <forcumang> thanks though :)
[20:50] <MaT-dg> forcumang: okay yw
[20:50] <mod_cure> n8tuser, http://pastebin.com/m32a3303
[20:50] <wesolek> hello, can anybody help me? I don't know where to set up general proxy settings :(
[20:50] <tallyn> Hello all, Can someone help me with bluez-utils?
[20:50]  * forcumang gets ready to make three backups
[20:50] <forcumang> ;p
[20:50] <ulifer> anyone know how to fix my audio setup, it detects the card in alsaconf but it doesn't seem to work
[20:50] <thiebaude> !ask
[20:50] <ulifer> lspci shows 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[20:50] <mod_cure> n8tuser, ip is 192.168.1.102... i dont remember seeing the epth0 interface there before, hmm
[20:50] <forcumang> i hear games play a lot smoother on linux too
[20:50] <n8tuser> mod_cure-> describe your network layout..what you pasted does not describe how you are connected
[20:50] <forcumang> gfx wise
[20:50] <Arenlor> I'm having trouble accessing 802.11b with my Broadcom 4311 rev1 card using 8.10 and b43
[20:51] <LFSrulz2> Netcowboy: did you restart gnome or the computer already? (i have no clue, what happened, but sometimes its possible, that the x server can have a hickup on certain graphic cards)
[20:51] <mod_cure> n8tuser, the box it plugged into router. i have a static ip to box 192.168.1.102
[20:51] <Static--> if i can find a place to host it....
[20:51] <forcumang> static
[20:51] <forcumang> i have a server, ill make u an ftp
[20:51] <forcumang> k?
[20:51] <subone> The usb boot drive I made won't boot for some reason. What is the syntax to input in grub to load the kernel from the usb device? I tried kernel=/sdb1/casper/vmlinuz but that didn't work.
[20:51] <Netcowboy> LFSrulz2,  Nope , how to restart gnome?
[20:52] <n8tuser> mod_cure-> what is the ip of the router?
[20:52] <tallyn> Hello all, I am trying to follow a patching tutorial for Bluez-utils, but I it is using version 3.19, and the latest is 4.12.
[20:52] <LFSrulz2> Netcowboy: try hitting CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE
[20:52] <forcumang> Static--: sec, going to cpanel and making your ftp acct
[20:52] <dr_willis> subone,  you  most likely need to use the grub style naming for the hard drives..  and the root (hd#) command befor that..
[20:52] <LFSrulz2> uhm...
[20:52] <mod_cure> n8tuser, 192.168.1.1
[20:52] <subone> or rather /dev/sdb1/...
[20:53] <subone> when I tried hd1 it said some error
[20:53] <n8tuser> mod_cure-> can you ping that 192.168.1.1 ?
[20:53] <subone> idk what the grub style means
[20:53] <mod_cure> n8tuser, yes
[20:53] <Dominik1> ubuntu crashed 4 times now because of my keyboard..
[20:53] <n8tuser> mod_cure-> results of  your   route -n  ?
[20:53] <yomomma> mod_cure: ubuntu networking = fail
[20:54] <iHateWindows> Hello
[20:54] <iHateWindows> I desperately need help with an Ubuntu 8.10 installation
[20:54] <dr_willis> subone,  check the grub homepage/manual.. grub does not use the /dev/sda1 type nameing scheme internally.
[20:54] <wesolek> hello :) I can't update my new xubuntu, can anybody help?
[20:54] <Netcowboy> LFSrulz2,  did it . then I go to appearance preference but I got there "desktop efects couldn't be enabled "
[20:54] <mod_cure> n8tuser, http://pastebin.com/m4499dde8
[20:55] <subone> dr_willis I don't suppose you can link me I'm on my phone :P
[20:55] <iHateWindows> I boot Ubuntu from the CD, select "Install Ubuntu" and then it just shows a black screen
[20:55] <Arenlor> !ask | wesolek
[20:55] <iHateWindows> Arenlor, who me?
[20:55] <n8tuser> mod_cure-> disable your peth0 interface;  then also sudo  /etc/init.d/networking restart
[20:55] <dr_willis> subone,    icky. :)      http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/
[20:55] <LFSrulz2> Netcowboy: it sounds, like your desktop is quite ok, except for the effects now? maybe your system updated the drivers for the graphics card. did you set updates to automatically install new stuff without asking?
[20:56] <mod_cure> n8tuser, not sure how or what peth0 interface is... not sure how it got there. how do i disable it ?
[20:56] <Jambon> Hi, I am running 8.10 live and trying to get data off a few partitions that died and cannot be booted into. I am unable to mount my previous ubuntu installation. It doesn't give me any specifics, just "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on dev/sda3...." Any ideas?
[20:56] <Arenlor> iHateWindows, no, but try this, hit F6 and remove splash from the line that appears and see if anything comes up
[20:56] <thiebaude> iHateWindows: try safe graphics mode
[20:56] <wesolek> Arenlor, but I did say the problem, i can't update, and I asked earlier if anybody can help me with the general proxy settings for my new ubuntu
[20:56] <Netcowboy> LFSrulz2, it's ask me to download it , no update recntly
[20:56] <n8tuser> mod_cure-> sudo ifdown peth0
[20:56] <Arenlor> wesolek, is it giving you an error, how are you unable to update?
[20:57] <wesolek> arenlor, it'll just say connection error
[20:57] <delmar> hey everyone. I have a strange issue with my DVD burner. since upgrading the motherboard (gigabyte ep35 thing) and installing ubuntu x64 (hardy) I can read/write CD's fine, but whenever I even try to read a DVD I get Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block XXXX etc.  I have tried 2 other DVD drives and have the same problem. anyone have any thoughts ?
[20:57] <Arenlor> wesolek, can you pastebin it?
[20:57] <LFSrulz2> Netcowboy: the only situation, i had such symptoms was, when i updated to "better" drivers (compiz was working before). Probably the log in /var/log/Xorg.0.log will give you a hint. If you dont understand any of it, post it to the pastebin.
[20:57] <zsquareplusc> Jambon: what does file -s /dev/sda3 say?
[20:58] <wesolek> arenlor, it gives me the list of updates, but it won't download them, the progress bar stays on 0% and then after a while there is an error
[20:58] <Netcowboy> LFSrulz2,  ok I'll post it
[20:58] <mod_cure> n8tuser, ifdown peth0
[20:58] <mod_cure> ifdown: interface peth0 not configured
[20:58] <Arenlor> !paste wesolek
[20:58] <djungelkraem> sudo apt-get build-dep ffmpeg - i ran this command - how do i get it undone?
[20:58] <Arenlor> !paste | wesolek
[20:58] <n8tuser> mod_cure-> sudo ifdown peth0         <-- sudo ?
[20:58] <mod_cure> im root
[20:58] <_cb> How can I watch UBUNTU when I log on? Sound not working for me but working for other users. If I can see what Ubuntu is doing I may be able to figure it out.
[20:58] <Jambon> zsquareplusc: /dev/sda3: writable, no read permission
[20:59] <Arenlor> wesolek if you paste everything from the command on I'll see what I can find out
[20:59] <n8tuser> mod_cure-> /etc/init.d/networking restart
[20:59] <iHateWindows> Arenlor, how do I remove the splash screen exactly?
[20:59] <Pici> _cb: Before you do that, are you sure that your user is in the audio group?
[20:59] <Netcowboy> LFSrulz2,  all of it ?
[20:59] <wesolek> Arenlor, update manager isn't connecting, terminal works fine
[20:59] <LFSrulz2> Netcowboy: yes, please
[21:00] <zsquareplusc> Jambon: the file -s command should print the filesystem type. i was asking this becuase sda3 might be an other partition like swap
[21:00] <Arenlor> iHateWindows: when you get to the options to install etc, press F6 then a command line will appear, just use the arrow keys to move to the word splash and then delete it
[21:00] <Arenlor> wesolek, what about synaptic?
[21:00] <thiebaude> bbl
[21:01] <mod_cure> n8tuser, petho is still there. uurggg where did it come from , so odd
[21:01] <wesolek> arenlor, sorry, the terminal isn't working either, after typing sudo apt-get update, I'm still waiting for the error to come up
[21:01] <iHateWindows> Arenlor, how do I send you yellow messages like that - I'll try the splash thing, thanks
[21:01] <n8tuser> mod_cure-> paste your  /etc/network/interfaces  file
[21:01] <Pici> iHateWindows: Your client highlights it because we mentioned your nick.
[21:02] <_cb> Don't see an audio group but will scroll down the groups and see if there is a diff between users.
[21:02] <iHateWindows> Pici: is this message underlined?
[21:02] <iHateWindows> Any Mac users here?
[21:02] <Pici> iHateWindows: Its hilighted on my client.
[21:02] <iHateWindows> Or are we all terminal players?
[21:03] <Netcowboy> LFSrulz2,  http://pastebin.com/m18e094d1 :) thanks
[21:03] <Arenlor> wesolek after it gives you the error paste it to pastebin and post it here
[21:03] <wesolek> ok
[21:03] <paul68> n8tuser: are you here my friend?
[21:03] <n8tuser> paul68-> yes..
[21:03] <iHateWindows> Eny women here?
[21:04] <iHateWindows> any*
[21:04] <paul68> n8tuser: doing happy dance reconfigured network in 2 subnets and now trying to adapt the iptable config :)) doing happy dance here :-)
[21:04] <Jambon> zsquareplusc: so it didn't give that info for that command. what does that mean?
[21:04] <Pici> iHateWindows: This is a support channel, and thats not very appropriate here.
[21:04] <iHateWindows> I'm turned on with my IT tech being a super hot bird
[21:04] <wesolek> arenlor, I was just checking synaptic, and the same, won't download anything, it's a proxy problem
[21:04] <n8tuser> paul68-> okay cool
[21:04] <iHateWindows> Ah, sorry
[21:05] <iHateWindows> (zips his jeans back on)
[21:05] <wesolek> Unable to connect to security.ubuntu.com http:
[21:05] <wesolek> Err http://security.ubuntu.com intrepid-security/restricted Translation-en_GB; arenlor
[21:05] <rafal> damianek
[21:05] <paul68> n8tuser: mostly I have you to thank for and ofcourse my stuborn attitute lol
[21:05] <zsquareplusc> Jambon: nothing special. the same reason mount complains about :p  but file -s would detect swap for example, what mount isnt
[21:05] <Pici> !offtopic > iHateWindows
[21:05] <Arenlor> wesolek can you ping security.ubuntu.com?
[21:05] <n8tuser> paul68-> yep your persistence paid off, pat yourself in the back
[21:06] <paul68> n8tuser: :-)
[21:06] <wesolek> arenlor, nope
[21:06] <paul68> n8tuser: now the iptables and I'm homefree
[21:06] <rafal> if you wona be a good people you mast drink a lot of milk
[21:06] <mod_cure> n8tuser, http://pastebin.com/m3b527379
[21:07] <wesolek> I did export http_proxy="...."
[21:07] <cubuntu> hi help plz how is change ubuntu pc?
[21:07] <paul68> n8tuser: is there by your knowledge a log kept of all the output generated by the terminal?
[21:07] <LFSrulz2> Netcowboy: i didnt find anything in there really. you can try to disable the advanced drivers in System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers, restart Gnome, and reactivate them.
[21:07] <Arenlor> wesolek if you can't ping it then it's likely dns related
[21:07] <wesolek> arenlor, I did export http_proxy="...."
[21:07] <Jambon> zsquareplusc: would you have an idea as to how I could make the partition readable again? I'd just like to get some data off of it before I reinstall ubuntu.
[21:07] <quentusrex> Any recommendations for ways to create an image gallery? I'm looking for something that my wife(who only knows how to use facebook) can create image galleries on our family site.
[21:07] <iHateWindows> One more question Pici and Arenlor, if I disable the splash screen and it still doesn't work what should I try?
[21:07] <n8tuser> mod_cure-> you seem to be running an app that makes your eth0  in promiscous mode?
[21:07] <Netcowboy> LFSrulz2,  there's no driver there :/
[21:08] <LFSrulz2> Netcowboy: better use "logout" than killing the server with the keys
[21:08] <Arenlor> iHateWindows: it should tell you where it's stopping
[21:08] <wesolek> arenlor, but I managed to install openssh from the terminal
[21:08] <rideick2> hey guys... do you know if there is any connection limit in Linux?
[21:08] <LFSrulz2> Netcowboy: but the advanced effects were active before?
[21:08] <n8tuser> paul68-> none, i have to retrai myself over and over so i dont forget
[21:08] <Netcowboy> LFSrulz2,  sure  till minutes ago
[21:08] <iHateWindows> Arenlor: tell me where what's stopping?
[21:08] <zsquareplusc> !recover > Jambon
[21:09] <n8tuser> retrain*
[21:09] <Netcowboy> LFSrulz2,  lemme try to restart I'll be back :)
[21:09] <nintendork32> I'm wanting to install grub on another installation of ubuntu. should i copy the /boot/ folder from this PC and do the recovery with the find /boot/grub/stage1 stuff?
[21:09] <LFSrulz2> Netcowboy: hmm. -- ok
[21:09] <Arenlor> wesolek, that's unusual, have you tried flushing your dns to see if it helps?
[21:09] <rafal> co robita
[21:09] <Arenlor> iHateWindows it'll tell you where the installation boot is stopping
[21:09] <wesolek> arenlor, no idea how to flush it :)
[21:10] <Arenlor> wesolek: http://www.tech-faq.com/flush-dns.shtml
[21:10] <mod_cure> n8tuser, see anything wrong with the interface file ?
[21:11] <n8tuser> mod_cure-> tell me what interfaces shows up in   /sys/class/net
[21:11] <T2008> hi everyone i just installed 8.10 i and updated can you tell me now how to updated the repository ?
[21:11] <NoIdeaMan> Hello
[21:11] <T2008> how do we update the repository?
[21:11] <n8tuser> mod_cure-> nothing i can see glaringly  wrong
[21:11] <rafal> elo
[21:12] <NoIdeaMan> Can anyone help me figure out how to get my Buffalo Wireless-G USB 2 Keychain Adapter to work
[21:12] <Arenlor> T2008 I'm not sure quite what you mean
[21:12] <mod_cure> n8tuser, eth0  lo  peth0  veth0  veth1  veth2  veth3  vif0.0  vif0.1  vif0.2  vif0.3
[21:12] <Jambon> zsquareplusc: so I'm taking my partition is a gonner? Would it be something wrong with the physical drive itself (windows just stopped booting, claiming an unmountable boot volume) or just that partition?
[21:12] <rideick2> hey guys... do you know if there is any connection limit in Linux?
[21:12] <n8tuser> mod_cure-> what are you running on your host? virtualbox? vmwre? you have all those virtual interfaces
[21:12] <NoIdeaMan> Can anyone help me figure out how to get my Buffalo Wireless-G USB 2 Keychain Adapter to work?
[21:12] <Arenlor> rideick2: by connection limit what do you mean?
[21:12] <wesolek> arenlor, No such file or directory
[21:13] <T2008> hi Arenlor i mean do i have to change anything in the repository i just installed 8.10 and updated what i do now?
[21:13] <T2008> question n1
[21:13] <rafal> tell my why
[21:13] <mod_cure> n8tuser, no vmware.  i installed xen vm on system. maybe that did it
[21:13] <Arenlor> T2008 you shouldn't need to do anything
[21:13] <ambro951> Hi, I've tried Kubuntu's default kernel config in Gentoo, and I've noticed that changing the "Processor Type" from the default (586/...) to Core 2 Duo (which I use) (still with "Generic x86 support") will get gtkperf (and Firefox) to run more than twice as fast
[21:13] <Arenlor> wesolek: hmm hold on
[21:13] <zsquareplusc> Jambon: i dont know. i have not lost many disks. mine started to have unreadable sectors.
[21:13] <IdleOne> Jambon, use a live cd and mount the partition, save data ( to cd or something ) and then reinstall. if this is a fresh install of ubuntu you may just need to !fixgrub
[21:14] <mod_cure> n8tuser, i bet when i installed the xen package thats what did it. i installed xen because i want to copy vm guest image from my red hat to this box
[21:14] <n8tuser> mod_cure-> well disable those, as its shows it is conflicting..
[21:14] <NoIdeaMan> Can anyone help me figure out how to get my Buffalo Wireless-G USB 2 Keychain Adapter to work?
[21:14] <T2008> question n2 as i enabled the non free video drivers are we are security risk using them and can you tell me if i need to install any driver for my nvidia 7900 gs?
[21:14] <rideick2> Arenlor: I mean limit number of connection I would like to know if exists any limit for that
[21:14] <rafal> my mother is very  angry to me becouse i eat all sweets:D
[21:14] <mod_cure> n8tuser, how to disable ?
[21:15] <rideick2> Arenlor: like 1000 connection at once
[21:15] <IdleOne> !ot > rafal
[21:15] <Static--> anyone else want crossover pro?
[21:15] <T2008> or they are safe Arenlor?
[21:15] <n8tuser> mod_cure-> you run your regular kernel and disable the xen related network stuff
[21:15] <rideick2> does it exist? or there is no limit in linux?
[21:15] <Arenlor> rideick2 what type of connections are you talking about?
[21:15] <IdleOne> !warez > Static--
[21:15] <Netcowboy> LFSrulz2,  wired after restart I could change my visual efect to "normal" it work just fine
[21:15] <Arenlor> T2008 they are safe
[21:15] <Static--> its not warez, listed as a free open source
[21:15] <hardwired> how can I allow an ordinary user to shutdown, powerdown, reboot and suspend a machine?
[21:15] <Arenlor> wesolek, do you have a router?
[21:16] <LFSrulz2> Netcowboy: yes, its weird. i have had similar thoughts some hours ago myself. have fun!
[21:16] <edju> If I login from kdm, kde is funky - the windows lack grab bars and borders, typing in konsole yields white squares, and more.  If I log in from the cli w/ startx, kde is fine.  Some config file?  If so, can't find which.  Why the difference?
[21:16] <IdleOne> Static--, the join #ubuntu-offtopic as it is not support related
[21:16] <T2008> ok what i need for my nvidia 7900gs Arenlor?
[21:16] <iHateWindows> Arenlor, I've got the laptop in front of me, I booted the Ubuntu 8.10 CD
[21:16] <Netcowboy> LFSrulz2, thank for time :)
[21:16] <NoIdeaMan> Can anyone help me figure out how to get my Buffalo Wireless-G USB 2 Keychain Adapter to work?
[21:16] <Netcowboy> Thanks *
[21:16] <T2008> have to install any video driver?
[21:16] <iHateWindows> Arenlor, what exactly shall I do
[21:16] <wesolek> arenlor, no, I'm on campus and they use proxy, but I have my own external IP
[21:17] <Slart> could someone try printing one page from a pdf for me... I can't figure out if the pdf is faulty or if it's my system that keeps messing up
[21:17] <rideick2> Arenlor: ?
[21:17] <Arenlor> T2008 look in System > Administration > Hardware Drivers and see if there is anything to turn on
[21:17] <iHateWindows> Arenlor, sorry I'm a Mac user, never seen a boot screen before
[21:17] <Jambon> IdleOne: grub seems to work. it's just both my windows and linux partitions won't boot. I can read the windows one from the live cd i'm on now, but not the linux one.
[21:17] <T2008> no everything works fine
[21:17] <Arenlor> wesolek it may be your campus blocking it
[21:17] <iHateWindows> Arenlor, to disable the boot screen
[21:17] <rideick2> hey guys... do you know if there is any connection limit in Linux?
[21:17] <Slart> rideick2: nothing artificial like in windows
[21:17] <Slart> rideick2: afaik at least
[21:17] <Arenlor> rideick2 what type of connections?
[21:18] <T2008> question n3 Arenlor how do i turn on firestarter at long in as when i reboot it dosen't auto start and how do i show you rkhunter 3 warkings log to see if im ok?
[21:18] <n8tuser> NoIdeaMan-> have you tried any tutorials yet?  or google for how to troubleshoot such?
[21:18] <T2008> log*
[21:18] <NoIdeaMan> looking atm
[21:18] <IdleOne> Jambon, what do you mean by cant read? is it not mounting or is the partition emtpy? ???
[21:18] <Arenlor> iHateWindows after you choose english press F6 then press left on the cursor keys and backspace over the word splash
[21:18] <T2008> warnings+
[21:19] <wesolek> it was fine on suse, and then on xubuntu, so I don't think this is the problem... beside half of the computers are linx-based, arenlor
[21:19] <iHateWindows> I don't see the word splash
[21:19] <Arenlor> T2008 I'm not an expert in those fields
[21:19] <iHateWindows> file=/cdrom/proseed/ubuntu.seed...
[21:19] <T2008> who can help me Arenlor?
[21:19] <Arenlor> wesolek, I'm not sure then
[21:19] <T2008> btw i think how to make firestarter autostar where i go?
[21:19] <iHateWindows> Arenlor, I don't see the word splash
[21:19] <rideick2> Arenlor: Any type.. like tcp/ip or samba or something else...
[21:19] <Arenlor> iHateWindows it should be at the very right of all that
[21:19] <iHateWindows> Arenlor, s	file=/cdrom/proseed/ubuntu.seed...
[21:20] <iHateWindows> No, nothing
[21:20] <Arenlor> rideick2 each of those has their own limits you are able to set individually
[21:20] <Tailsfan> Hi There, I'm trying to install 8.10 via Wubi, but when I restart to start the next phase of installation, it goes into a text prompt showing with the name "initramfs", what do I do now?
[21:20] <alesan> hey I have my mom at the phone. she didn't do a clena shutdown last time and now she's a prompt asking for password for maintenance, or ctrl-d to continue. what should she do?
[21:20] <T2008> where is the autostart programs settings Arenlor so i can turn firestarter to auto start at log in ?
[21:20] <nintendork32> I'm wanting to install grub on another installation of ubuntu. should i copy the /boot/ folder from this PC and do the recovery with the find /boot/grub/stage1 stuff?
[21:20] <rideick2> Arenlor: so how can I see it?
[21:21] <rideick2> Arenlor: do you know?
[21:21] <Slart> !boot | T2008
[21:21] <Arenlor> T2008 different programs get autostarted different ways, you can try System > Preferences > Sessions though
[21:21] <IdleOne> T2008, add firestarter to Sessions in System>Sessions
[21:21] <Slart> alesan: is this a linux system?
[21:21] <ferrouswheel> is there any way to find out what repository is providing a package. already tried "dpkg -s", "aptitude show -v -v"
[21:21] <cheater_> Anyone eles have problems with the murrine theme engine? Whenever I goto enable it, it works for two seconds and then goes all messed up
[21:21] <alesan> Slart, aren't we in #ubuntu?
[21:21] <iHateWindows> Arenlor, found it
[21:22] <T2008> you know who can check my warnings log Arenlor of rkhunter?
[21:22] <iHateWindows> Arenlor, I had the alternative CD in
[21:22] <alesan> Slart, or are you saying moms do not normally use ubuntu :)
[21:22] <IdleOne> alesan, you would be surprised at the support questions asked about other OS'es in here
[21:22] <T2008> couse i need to shwo the log fine but don't know how
[21:22] <Slart> alesan: of course.. I just couldn't remember if that was a window message or a linux message =)
[21:22] <Arenlor> rideick2: can you be specific?
[21:22] <RediXe> I plugged in a usb display .. how do I send text to it? .. 2 lines 25 character display. Trying to figure out the /dev/ttys i assume but not sure how
[21:22] <Antonio2> ciao
[21:22] <Tailsfan> anyone else getting my Wubi Problem
[21:22] <Antonio2> !list
[21:22] <T2008> or you know Slart?
[21:22] <alesan> well, which password should she give for the FS check and - why isn't this automatic.
[21:22] <vladtsepes> hi guys i have a big problem
[21:23] <iHateWindows> Arenlor, I deleted the word "splash" and selected install, let's see...
[21:23] <IdleOne> !it | Antonio2
[21:23] <Slart> alesan: it asks for the root password I suppose.. and ubuntu doesn't have one of those by default.. I guess it's ctrl+d then
[21:23] <iHateWindows> Arenlor "Loading, please wait..."
[21:23] <Slart> T2008: huh? about what?
[21:23] <vladtsepes> i have installed ubuntu but when turn on grub doesn't load and start directly windows vista
[21:23] <vladtsepes> wath can i do?
[21:23] <dadx> Acer-wmi tries to load on boot even thought I have a desktop. How shall I disable it?
[21:23] <klync> vladtsepes: boot from cd and fix your mbr
[21:24] <iHateWindows> Arenlor, still "Loading, please wait" has it frozen?
[21:24] <Arenlor> iHateWindows: not likely
[21:24] <vladtsepes> i have to boot ubuntu from cd....and how can i fix mbr in ubuntu?
[21:24] <Slart> alesan: I would suggest starting from the live cd and running a fsck from there
[21:24] <T2008> well i got 3 warnings to show from log of rkhunter Slart but don't know how can you help and are able to check em?
[21:24] <Arenlor> iHateWindows: it would give you a lot of garbage if it crashed
[21:24] <Slart> T2008: sure, pastebin them
[21:24] <Slart> !pastebin | T2008
[21:24] <Jambon> IdleOne: it cannot be read. it gives me a message saying it won't mount. the ubuntu partition is unreadable
[21:24] <alesan> Slart, she does not have that
[21:24] <T2008> yes but how i copy paste the log?
[21:24] <iHateWindows> Arenlor, Ah, I see
[21:25] <T2008> im new to linux not able to  terminal much
[21:25] <vladtsepes> how can i fix mbr from ubuntu to start grub?
[21:25] <Slart> T2008: ok.. sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:25] <iHateWindows> Arenlor, needless to say that you're awfully kind in helping me
[21:25] <klync> vladtsepes: depends on how your disks are set up and how you want it set up - you might want to google for "dual boot howto"
[21:25] <klync> +grub
[21:25] <Slart> T2008: then you run rkhunter -c | pastebinit
[21:26] <Arenlor> iHateWindows: what are you specs, that may be why it seems slow
[21:26] <Slart> T2008: you'll get a web-address when it's done
[21:26] <Slart> T2008: that is the address to the pasted text from the rkhunter command
[21:26] <IdleOne> !fixmbr > vladtsepes
[21:26] <iHateWindows> Arenlor, Pentium D 1.8GhZ, 2GB RAM, VIA 672 IGP GPU Laptop
[21:27] <T2008> ok
[21:27] <IdleOne> Jambon, you can try to force the mount see "man mount" without quotes from terminal
[21:27] <RediXe> I plugged in a usb display, I see it with lsusb Bus 002 Device 006: ID 0fa8:a090 Logic Controls, Inc.   .. how can I send text to it with echo?  echo -e "" >> /dev/bus/usb/002/006 doesn't work. So I was thinking the ttys* but no idea which ttys it is
[21:27] <T2008> installed so now  i rescan slart?
[21:27] <IdleOne> Jambon, gotta run good luck
[21:27] <Arenlor> iHateWindows: hmm that should be decent, it hasn't changed from please wait?
[21:27] <Slart> alesan: here's a thread describing your problem.. I didn't see a clear solution http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-164581.html
[21:27] <iHateWindows> I restarted
[21:27] <Slart> T2008: run the command I gave you.. "rkhunter -c | pastebinit"
[21:27] <nothing12345> Hi, why do I have two Terminals in the gnome menu?
[21:28] <Slart> T2008: I'm not sure if rkhunter wants to be run as root.. if it does you just use "sudo rkhunter -c | pastebinit" instead
[21:28] <Arenlor> iHateWindows: try checking the disc's integrity
[21:28] <T2008> ok it gives me opstions Slart what i chosoe default b?
[21:28] <iHateWindows> Arenlor, the strange thing is, I tried Mandriva and OpenSUSE and they froze in the loading bar when I boot the CD
[21:29] <wesolek> it worked!!! thanks
[21:29] <T2008> Required arguments:
[21:29] <T2008> 	-i <filename> (or pipe the text)
[21:29] <T2008> Optional arguments:
[21:29] <T2008> 	-b <pastebin url:default is 'http://pastebin.com'>
[21:29] <T2008> 	-a <author:default is 'root'>
[21:29] <FloodBot1> T2008: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:29] <wesolek> gotta run now
[21:29] <T2008> 	-f <format of paste:default is 'text'>
[21:29] <NoIdeaMan> how i find out my routers sid or w/e
[21:29] <Slart> T2008: never paste into the channel
[21:29] <disappearedng> hi everyone how do I enable universe repository?
[21:29] <Slart> T2008: what did you run, exactly?
[21:29] <T2008> ok sorry
[21:29] <Slart> !repos | disappearedng
[21:29] <T2008> your command Slart
[21:29] <iHateWindows> Arenlor, the only Linux I've managed to install was OpenSolaris, but the WiFi didn't work there
[21:30] <Slart> T2008: I don't think you did... you wouldn't get a question if you did =)
[21:30] <Static--> is there a way to make the GDM into your lock screen, currently the lock theme isnt even close to whats enabled
[21:30] <NoIdeaMan> how i find out my routers sid or w/e
[21:30] <T2008> rkhunter -c | pastebinit
[21:30] <Arenlor> iHateWindows can you run a liveCD?
[21:30] <T2008> that i run
[21:30] <T2008> i will try again
[21:30] <Slart> T2008: ah.. nevermind..  my bad
[21:30] <T2008> what happend?
[21:30] <iHateWindows> Arenlor, no, I get the same black screen with the LiveCD function
[21:31] <disappearedng> how do I convert flac to mp3 then
[21:31] <Joker_-_> is there a way to have ubuntu boot a user but automatically lock it so that you still have to type in your password to login?
[21:31] <T2008> i pasted you what i got Slart that list of options so what i select?
[21:31] <Slart> T2008: let me check what could be wrong.. I get the same thing..
[21:31] <iHateWindows> Arenlor, still loading...
[21:31] <Slart> T2008: it's not supposed to need any options..
[21:31] <ziggles> hi guys... this is a stupid question but what do i need to do so i can create an alias for a command?  for example, i have to SSH to my home computer a LOT and id like to just type "sshhome" or something like that.
[21:31] <T2008> shall i selct -b?
[21:32] <Daisuke_Ido> ziggles: just write a quick shell script for it
[21:32] <Arenlor> iHateWindows: is it a mac you're trying to run it on?
[21:32] <ziggles> where do i put the shell script though?
[21:32] <Daisuke_Ido> /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin
[21:32] <T2008> or afther scan is done it tells me where log is stored if you know how to recover it i can pastebint it afther
[21:32] <Joker_-_> ziggles: put it in /usr/bin/ or something in your path
[21:32] <Daisuke_Ido> make sure it's in the path
[21:32] <T2008> Slart
[21:32] <iHateWindows> Arenlor, no, I'm on my Mac right now, I'm installing it on a £300 laptop I got with Vista
[21:32] <Slart> T2008: nope.. just take a deep breath.. think of puppies, kittens, green grass or something =)
[21:32] <Arenlor> ziggles: edit .bash_rc and uncomment the lines about .bash_aliases, create that file, and add it there
[21:32] <Slart> T2008: and just wait until I've figured out why it doesn't work =)
[21:32] <iHateWindows> Arenlor, after having formatted Vista 5 times in 3 months I had enough of it
[21:32] <node357> .bash_profile: alias sshome='ssh user@1.2.3.4'
[21:33] <T2008> ok thanx
[21:33] <iHateWindows> Arenlor, still loading...
[21:33] <T2008> are this 3 warkings i get from unhide normal you get em too Slart?
[21:33] <T2008> warnings*
[21:34] <NinjaElf> Hello everyone.  I was wondering if its posible to change my mouse pointer to a crosshair extending the length and breadth of the window?
[21:34] <iHateWindows> Arenlor, If I don't manage to install Ubuntu, do you know how to get WiFi to work on OpenSolaris, which I managed to install?
[21:34] <Slart> T2008: I usually get one or two warnings
[21:34] <ziggles> node357: Arenlor: thank you both.
[21:35] <ziggles> does .bash_profile go in the home dir?
[21:35] <T2008> i hope in you to see if im bonet pc Slart as i suspect that from xp
[21:35] <Arenlor> iHateWindows, no, but you can try joining #opensolaris for that
[21:35] <iHateWindows> okay, thanks
[21:35] <T2008> tell me when you find out what's wrong with your command now so i can show you the log
[21:35] <dario> hola
[21:35] <Slart> T2008: it doesn't matter if your xp-machine is infected.. ubuntu will still be clean
[21:36] <dario> alguien conectado
[21:36] <T2008> so we are immune to botnets here slart?
[21:36] <T2008> and xp is gone
[21:36] <T2008> or linux can still be drone botnet hacked?
[21:36] <Slart> T2008: well.. no.. but if you get a virus in xp you'll still be clean in ubuntu.. or the other way around..
[21:37] <T2008> while you check what's wrong can you tell me how to enable firestarter at log in couse when i reboot it closes
[21:37] <Slart> T2008: ok.. you can try another command now.. first run "sudo rkhunter -c".. and when it's finished you run "sudo pastebinit /var/log/rkhunter.log"
[21:38] <ziggles> after i edit the .bash_profile do i need to reload it somehow?
[21:38] <T2008> ok i try
[21:38] <jmarpu33> hola, dario
[21:38] <Arenlor> ziggles: just reload bash
[21:38] <T2008> then we can sort out how to auto start firestarter at log in
[21:38] <ziggles> Arenlor: how do i do this?
[21:39] <iHateWindows> Arenlor, It's still showing Loading Please wait", any alternative way you know of?
[21:39] <Arenlor> ziggles: are you at a command line only, or do you have x (graphical interface)?
[21:39] <ziggles> Arenlor: i was @ the command prompt, but i just remembered about source .bash_profile
[21:40] <T2008> it's  scanning slart i have to install ubuntu on my other pc it's acer extensa 5220 are you familiar with that notebook slart i mean will work fine on ati ubuntu 8.10?
[21:40] <ziggles> which worked.
[21:40] <Slart> T2008: ati can be a bit tricky.. try the live cd first
[21:40] <Static--> try the gfx safe boot
[21:40] <Arenlor> iHateWindows: may I suggest you see if you have imcompatible hardware maybe: http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/
[21:40] <Static--> uses generic drivers
[21:40] <ziggles> Arenlor: thanks for helping out a noob.  this is gonna make my life so much easier :)  was grepping history EVERY time to get the full ssh command :)
[21:41] <Arenlor> ziggles: just remember to keep a backup of .bash_profile on you, especially if you use multiple machines
[21:42] <ziggles> thats a great idea.... do you just carry it around on like a usb drive or something?
[21:42] <T2008> ok i did your commands and gave me this slart http://pastebin.com/f38f5479f so it worked :)
[21:42] <Arenlor> ziggles: yep
[21:42] <hololight> ok, i'm going to try again.... I just dist-upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10; my 8.04 was running wonderfully... now my entire system is painfully slow.... gnome takes forever to start.... simple apps will cause the system to become unresponsive for upwards of 45 seconds.... heck, virtualbox caused me to have to restart gnome.... advice??
[21:43] <ziggles> super cool.  thx again... have a good day guys.
[21:43] <T2008> so ill wait your results slart thanx
[21:43] <Slart> T2008: your computer looks fine.. I wouldn't worry about it
[21:43] <T2008> ok
[21:44] <T2008> can you tell me how to enable firestarter at log in as when i reboot it closes
[21:44] <Slart> T2008: mine is much worse =) http://pastebin.com/f3a6de5b2
[21:45] <T2008> maby they are fake allarms slart
[21:45] <T2008> but i hope you are expert to know if we got rootkits or not
[21:45] <T2008> as im a bit security paranoic
[21:45] <Slart> T2008: yup, I think so
[21:45] <zx80user> I am having some serious diff with adding a second NIC: Ethernet controller: National Semiconductor Corporation DP83815 (MacPhyter) Ethernet Controller which seems to bomb out with  eth1: DSPCFG accepted after 0 usec followed by ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready - is this my config or the hardware? (I am on up to date Intrepid)
[21:45] <T2008> is there a way to make firestarter auto start so dosen't close at reboots slart?
[21:46] <Slart> T2008: I'm not really sure.. there ought to be.. I've never used firestarter myself so I don't really know
[21:46] <hololight> nothing from anyone?
[21:47] <T2008> and last question is i remeber we had to change stuff in the repository with previous versions of ubuntu with 8.10 once done update are we good to go or need to touch the repository log?
[21:48] <Slart> T2008: hmm.. I never had to touch the repository log.. so I can't really say if it will work for you now
[21:48] <T2008> i mean i don't have to change nothing in the repository with 8.10 like old versions needed to enable stuff?
[21:49] <T2008> all that reverse multi reverse etc etc
[21:49] <T2008> i mean
[21:49] <saurabh> hello
[21:49] <DasEI1> !alsa > jolynn
[21:50] <nikin> hy .. i have a small problem.. i have TV tuner with a security cam on the Composite Input.. and i want to use it as a webcam.. but the the default input is the tuner itself.. how can i make /dev/video0 directly point to the right input?
[21:50] <Slart> T2008: you mean multiverse, universe etc?
[21:50] <T2008> yes
[21:50] <T2008> on 8.10 we need to set that ?
[21:50] <Slart> T2008: depends on what software you want.. you can enable them if you want to
[21:50] <Slart> !repos | T2008
[21:50] <LFSrulz2> nikin: look into udev
[21:51] <nikin> LFSrulz2: i should change something in the udev rules?
[21:51] <DiningInHell> Hey all, I just finished installing Ubuntu proper
[21:51] <T2008> you know why system update dosen't tell you when you first install updates avaible but you have to manualy check should it be all ways on display?
[21:51] <LFSrulz2> nikin: i am not 100% firm on it, but i think it is done so, yes.
[21:52] <DiningInHell> thanks for the help earlier, LFSrulz2
[21:52] <Onyx> holy shit i forgot where i was.
[21:52] <LFSrulz2> heheh.... yw
[21:53] <T2008> why system update isen't auto here all ways showing near the clock so can tell you if you need updates ?
[21:53] <nikin> expertnoob: thanx for the tip.. but i dont know how to set the udev for this... but i will look around
[21:54] <DasEI1> on ibex, is there a known issue with recompiling alsa (ma-a a-I alsa )?
[21:56] <T2008> btw thanx for help slart can you tell me before i go why the update is manual dosen't notify at first install new updates?
[21:56] <MaT-dg> how can I change mountpoints?
[21:57] <cobra-the-joker> hey there every one
[21:58] <cobra-the-joker> i just installed ubuntu right now
[21:58] <zsquareplusc> good moce
[21:58] <zsquareplusc> *move
[21:58] <cobra-the-joker> and i have a massive problem here
[21:58] <nintendork32> I'm wanting to install grub on another installation of ubuntu. should i copy the /boot/ folder from this PC and do the recovery with the find /boot/grub/stage1 stuff?
[21:58] <cobra-the-joker> i have usb adsl modem ..speed touch
[21:58] <fograven> I just got my Ibex disc today and I was wondering were  screens and graphics went and if there is a good guide online that someone knows about to get me started
[21:59] <cobra-the-joker> but i cant connect to internet with it
[21:59] <MetaMorfoziS> Hi all, sorry, offtopic question, but msg me if you are realted. Have anybody a rotary hoe? I need a specific photo from it.
[21:59] <Slart> T2008: I have no idea
[21:59] <Slart> T2008: sorry
[21:59] <T2008> np
[21:59] <cobra-the-joker> i have dont every thing the site told me about ....but still ...no connection
[21:59] <NicEXE> I want to install mythbuntu on my current Ubuntu installation. I already have a mysql server. Will that package install an sql server?
[21:59] <DasEI1> I become tired helping jolynn who hasn't sound , it's a fresh ibex install with a standard intel-snd, but more patience is needed : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2ad2c9cb
[21:59] <somethingclever> whats a good lightweight window manager that can access windows shares?
[21:59] <cobra-the-joker> but i got the firmware working ...i just dont know hot to establish a connection using tis device
[22:00] <nintendork32> hey NicEXE: ^sk8rboy^ here
[22:00] <T2008> btw i hope for the security of us all we are auto notify when we got ubuntu updates and not have to manualy check from time to time you get auto notify when you got an update or have to check manualy slart?
[22:00] <Slart> somethingclever: window managers doesn't access windows shares.. but try xfce (xubuntu)
[22:00] <cobra-the-joker> is there a command or something i can wwrite to make a connection in my ubu ?
[22:00] <Slart> T2008: I get updates automatically
[22:01] <cobra-the-joker> pls ....any body help
[22:01] <somethingclever> Slart, xfce doesnt let me access my windows shares like gnome does, is there a way to get xfce to access my windows shares?
[22:01] <T2008> ok
[22:01] <cobra-the-joker> HELP
[22:01] <T2008> diden't work for me at install so i hope it will in future as the deamon is in autostart for updates so
[22:02] <cobra-the-joker> Guys ....i need help here
[22:02] <Slart> somethingclever: well... you could mount the windows shares in fstab and access them as any other folder on your hard drive
[22:02] <cobra-the-joker> DONT IGNORE
[22:02] <r00tintheb0x> cobra-the-joker, we need your specifics here.
[22:02] <r00tintheb0x> Or what.
[22:02] <breguard> Here is a strange one for you guys. I installed Ubuntu on an old intel celeron box and it went fine. But now when I try to boot, it will go through the loader, splash, and then only show a brown screen. Anyone have any idea what is going on?
[22:02] <r00tintheb0x> You're going to e-hit us?
[22:02] <r00tintheb0x> breguard, probably graphix card issues.
[22:02] <solexious> !ask | cobra-the-joker
[22:02] <r00tintheb0x> Do you hear the drums?
[22:03] <breguard> Machiene doesn't have any speakers to it.
[22:03] <cobra-the-joker> r00tinthebox , i have speedtoucch 330 Ver 4
[22:03] <Slart> cobra-the-joker: if you don't get answers perhaps you're not asking your question clearly.. try rephrasing it.. find more info.. etc
[22:03] <T2008> ok thanx for help
[22:03] <NicEXE> I want to install mythbuntu on my current Ubuntu installation. I already have a mysql server. Will that package install an sql server?
[22:03] <Slart> cobra-the-joker: sometimes answers just aren't available.. no matter how much you want them
[22:03] <cobra-the-joker> Slart .....i already told my prblm
[22:03] <cobra-the-joker> but there wasnt any body liseting
[22:03] <T2008> anyone has acer extensa 5220 running 8.10 does it work fine?
[22:04] <cobra-the-joker> Ok ...i will tell you again
[22:04] <NoIdeaMan> How do I get wireless to work?
[22:04] <corky`> since my update to ubu 8.10, My vid drivers finally work! YAY!, Yet my wifi receiver doesn't work! D': ... (It did in 8.04) (Filtered lspci output: http://pastebin.ca/1266150 )
[22:04] <cobra-the-joker> i have speedtouch 330 ver4 usb adsl modem
[22:04] <cobra-the-joker> and i went to ubuntu site
[22:04] <cobra-the-joker> downloaded some info and the firmware of IT
[22:04] <Slart> cobra-the-joker: some advice..try to put it all on one line.. don't use enter as punctuation
[22:05] <NoIdeaMan> How do I get wireless to work?
[22:05] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[22:05] <Slart> !wifi | NoIdeaMan
[22:05] <NoIdeaMan> How do I get wireless to work? I have a router to supply wireless, but can't find out how to set it up.
[22:05] <r00tintheb0x> cobra-the-joker, why dont you just use CAT-5 like everyone else.
[22:06] <cobra-the-joker> and had the firmware working (checked as www.ubuntu.com said ) ...but the problem is ..i cant establish a connection there
[22:06] <Jambon> would anyone know what to do about an unreadable partition? I'm pretty sure it's ext3. I just want to get some data off of it before I reinstall
[22:06] <cobra-the-joker> Dont know why
[22:06] <Slart> Jambon: you can try testdisk for some recovery
[22:06] <NicEXE> I want to install mythbuntu on my current Ubuntu installation. I already have a mysql server. Will that package install an sql server?
[22:07] <cobra-the-joker> you know any thing about that ?
[22:07] <somethingclever> slart how do i mount them in fstab?
[22:07] <Slart> somethingclever: hmm..hang on.. let me see if I can find it
[22:08] <sabrewulf> hi, someone knows how to add audio ac3 with avidemux
[22:08] <cobra-the-joker> Slart ...can you help me with that issue ?
[22:08] <wedgeoflemon> when the next version of ubuntu comes out, how do you get it?
[22:08] <NoIdeaMan> How do I find out my routers Network Name, Key Type, and WEP Key?
[22:08] <wedgeoflemon> do you have to reformat?
[22:09] <jimdandy> Hi People! Is there a startup file that gets executed for every X session? I thought ~/.xsession was it, but I'm scratchin' my head :-)
[22:09] <zsquareplusc> wedgeoflemon: no, you can update
[22:09] <zsquareplusc> !update
[22:09] <Slart> cobra-the-joker: nope, no idea
[22:09] <NoIdeaMan> How do I find out my routers Network Name, Key Type, and WEP Key?
[22:10] <NicEXE> I want to install mythbuntu on my current Ubuntu installation. I already have a mysql server. Will that package install an sql server?
[22:10] <S_SubZero> How's Ubuntu 8.10's AHCI support?  Gonna throw it on a Intel 965LT system
[22:10] <cobra-the-joker> you dont have any suggestions where i can find some help ?
[22:10] <dr_willis> NicEXE,  mythbuntu uses mysql - if its allready installed it will use it. :) of course.
[22:10] <erUSUL> S_SubZero: very good
[22:10] <Slart> somethingclever: here's some info https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[22:10] <sabrewulf> 	someone knows how to add audio ac3 with avidemux
[22:10] <S_SubZero> cool I'll give it a shot
[22:10] <NoIdeaMan> How do I find out my routers Network Name, Key Type, and WEP Key?
[22:10] <Murrlin> has 8.04 and its repos gone away from using libglx? xorg can't find libglx.so , what do I do?
[22:11] <somethingclever> thanks Slart
[22:11] <cobra-the-joker> Slart , you dont have any suggestions where i can find some help ?
[22:11] <Slart> Murrlin: I think it might be in the nvidia-glx package
[22:11] <Slart> Murrlin: or the corresponding ati-package..
[22:12] <jimdandy> I am trying to load my X keyboard config via a "xmodmap ~/.xmodmap" command in ~/.xsession, but it seems .xsession isn't getting executed
[22:12] <Murrlin> so nvidia-new doesn't have glx support?
[22:12] <Slart> Murrlin: oh.. it should have.. afaik
[22:12] <NicEXE> dr_willis: I have e special version installed (changed some spots on the source and compile it myself)
[22:12] <wedgeoflemon> how do i get it so that when i press my volume keys on my keyboard, they will also controll headphone volume?
[22:12] <jimdandy> Is there an universal X startup file ubuntu will execute?
[22:12] <zsquareplusc> jimdandy: an .Xmodmap should be detected automatically and a requester pops up asking if you want to use it
[22:12] <ekontsevoy> My machine is configured to use DHCP, and nslookup returns a proper IP address for about a minute, then it starts reporting 'unknown name'. Seems like DHCP server for some reason quickly "forgets" the machine's name ("can't find 'name' NXDOMAIN"). Where do I begin to debug it? I do have send host-name in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[22:12] <maxbaldwin> So my brother came home with a game from his teachers, and it's a windows game. How is the proper way to run it with wine? just pop in the CD and doubleclick the .exe with wine?
[22:13] <NoIdeaMan> How do I find out my routers Network Name, Key Type, and WEP Key?
[22:13] <cobra-the-joker> This room is a total asshole
[22:13] <jimdandy> zsquareplusc: that is only in gnome, though, correct?
[22:13] <zsquareplusc> jimdandy: yes i think so
[22:13] <breguard> I installed Ubuntu on an old intel celeron box and it went fine. When I try to boot, it will go through the GRUB, ubunutu splash loader, and then only show a brown screen with a mouse cursor and stop loading anything. Anyone have any idea what is going on?
[22:13] <racquad> hi guys, i'm trying to install mysql-server but apt returns an error of hash fails...
[22:13] <jimdandy> I am trying a new keyboard config specifically for wmii
[22:14] <Slart> Murrlin: my libglx.so is in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[22:14] <nintendork32> hey NicEXE: ^sk8rboy^ here
[22:14] <NoIdeaMan> wow
[22:14] <nintendork32> I'm wanting to install grub on another installation of ubuntu. should i copy the /boot/ folder from this PC and do the recovery with the find /boot/grub/stage1 stuff?
[22:14] <Slart> Murrlin: if that helps you in any way
[22:14] <someone2005> am I going to have to change to kdm because I only have a 2d graphics card in 8.10 ?
[22:14] <zsquareplusc> NoIdeaMan: i dont think we can find that out. the wep key is supposed to be secret. the one that set up the router should know it. it may have a web interface, your router where you can get the infos
[22:14] <nintendork32> NicEXE: sorry
[22:14] <racquad> anyone has been thru this?
[22:14] <Russ> ..wep keys aren't secret
[22:14] <Russ> you funny man
[22:15] <bmm> I just tried to install the ttf-mathematica4.1 fonts and I got a pop-up box telling me that these fonts are "non-free". But I don't have the non-free repository enabled. Shouldn't anything that helps install non-free stuff be in the non-free repo??
[22:15] <Murrlin> (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so
[22:15] <breguard> I installed Ubuntu on an old intel celeron box and it went fine. When I try to boot, it will go through the GRUB, ubunutu splash loader, and then only show a brown screen with a mouse cursor and stop loading anything. Anyone have any idea what is going on?
[22:15] <Murrlin> that's the error I get from xorg.0.log
[22:16] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: usually you don't copy /boot you usually run grub-install that writes the bootblock and the stages. then you only need to add your own menu.lst
[22:16] <Murrlin> and mine is just where it supposed to be
[22:16] <Casperov> any1 else having trouble getting their computer to shut down using intrepid?
[22:16] <Murrlin> why the double // in the load line?
[22:16] <imachine> hello
[22:16] <imachine> security.ubuntu.com down ?
[22:16] <imachine> or is it me
[22:17] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, how do i know which drive i should install it in?
[22:17] <racquad> any idea, please?
[22:17] <wedgeoflemon> is WINE compatible with Intrepid?
[22:17] <imachine> yeah
[22:17] <imachine> works fine
[22:17] <wedgeoflemon> how do i get it?
[22:17] <dr_willis> wedgeoflemon,  wine works here.
[22:17] <dr_willis> !wine | wedgeoflemon
[22:17] <nintendork32> wedgeoflemon, sudo apt-get install wine
[22:17] <dr_willis> wedgeoflemon,  its int he package manager. or use the winehhq repos for the latest version
[22:17] <comradekingu> Very compatible with ubuntu, less so with windows
[22:17] <wedgeoflemon> i heard that it wasnt good for the last 2 versions of ubuntu
[22:18] <imachine> comradekingu, no problems here.
[22:18] <dr_willis> wedgeoflemon,  i think you have heard wrong.
[22:18] <imachine> just NET 2.0
[22:18] <wedgeoflemon> it was on the ubuntu website though
[22:18] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: the boot device is probably /dev/sda and the folder you need to pass it is a mounted partition on the same disk. the place where your /boot is
[22:18] <imachine> but I'm sure I could make it work with a bit of otss.
[22:18] <dr_willis> wedgeoflemon,  it works here.. try it and see.. thats the bottom line.
[22:18] <carpii> wasnt good, in what respect ?
[22:18] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, i thought it was hd0
[22:18] <comradekingu> If wine was uncompatible with ubuntu you would hear about it everywhere
[22:18] <carpii> theres always some apps that have probs with wine, but its not usually related to the ubuntu release
[22:19] <Murrlin> Slart, which file does all this module loading, for X ?
[22:19] <imachine> nintendork32, that's in grub nomenclature.
[22:19] <imachine> nintendork32, but the kernel takes standard kernel nomenclature devices.
[22:19] <imachine> as in, UUID or /dev/
[22:19] <Slart> Murrlin: I'm not really sure any more.. a year ago I would have said xorg.conf.. but that file is mostly empty these days..
[22:19] <breguard> I installed Ubuntu on an old intel celeron box and it went fine. When I try to boot, it will go through the GRUB, ubunutu splash loader, and then only show a brown screen with a mouse cursor and stop loading anything. Anyone have any idea what is going on? (Everything works fine from LiveCD)
[22:19] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, windows is on sda, dont C:\boot
[22:19] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: depends if you're specifiying the names on the command line or at the grub prompt (hd0 is grubs way to name /dev/sda).
[22:19] <someone2005> am I going to have to change to kdm because I only have a 2d graphics card in 8.10 ?
[22:20] <Murrlin> slart: hm. I mean, what file *runs* when X starts
[22:20] <imachine> someone2005, why on earth?
[22:20] <Murrlin> or files
[22:20] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, i dont want C:\boot\*
[22:20] <imachine> someone2005, 8.10 gdm still supports 2D cards afaik.
[22:20] <imachine> it's just X.org
[22:20] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: i bet that windows is not on sda (without number) its on a partition such as sda1
[22:20] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc: how would i edit menu.lst then?
[22:20] <NoIdeaMan> How do I find my Network Name, Key Type, and WEP Key for wireless on Ubuntu?
[22:20] <imachine> nintendork32, vim
[22:21] <someone2005> Didn't work properly upgrading to 8.04.
[22:21] <p4_> anyone else having trouble reaching the updates ?
[22:21] <NoIdeaMan> How do I find my Network Name, Key Type, and WEP Key for wireless on Ubuntu?
[22:21] <Slart> Murrlin: oh.. I have no idea really.. there is one file called Xorg I think.. check using top or system monitor
[22:21] <imachine> p4_, a bit, but it works after few secs.
[22:21] <zsquareplusc> imachine: i don't think the editor is his problem ;-)
[22:21] <umer> i am thinking to buy AGP card can you recommend me for the cheap card which support on ubuntu with pixel shader and other things
[22:21] <td123> what does atd and anacron do in the services? is it used by default or can I safely disable those
[22:21] <p4_> imagine, ahh thanks
[22:21] <NoIdeaMan> How do I find my Network Name, Key Type, and WEP Key for wireless on Ubuntu?
[22:21] <imachine> zsquareplusc, oops :-)
[22:21] <imachine> someone2005, dunno mate.
[22:21] <Slart> NoIdeaMan: in your wireless routers settings
[22:21] <imachine> someone2005, works over here (ATI Rage IIc)
[22:21] <imachine> someone2005, 8MB
[22:21] <breguard> I installed Ubuntu on an old intel celeron box and it went fine. When I try to boot, it will go through the GRUB, ubunutu splash loader, and then only show a brown screen with a mouse cursor and stop loading anything. Anyone have any idea what is going on? (Everything works fine from LiveCD)
[22:22] <NoIdeaMan> Slart: Where are thoose?
[22:22] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, cant i just make /boot on /dev/sdb1/ and have grub installed on /dev/sda
[22:22] <imachine> someone2005, I think X might not be your problem. how does it come to ?
[22:22] <Slart> NoIdeaMan: I would guess the network manager in ubuntu
[22:22] <p4_> imagine, ahh yes there we go. cheers mate.
[22:22] <p4_> imachine
[22:22] <p4_> sorry
[22:22] <NoIdeaMan> I'm not on Ubuntu
[22:22] <r00tintheb0x> lol
[22:22] <imachine> p4_, np
[22:22] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: that really depends on why your actual layout is. you need to find out what partition is used for what purpose using fdisk -l for example
[22:22] <NoIdeaMan> Trying to find out how to get wireless for Ubuntu
[22:22] <chairman> what's good uBUNTU fAM
[22:22] <imachine> p4_, I think an update was in progress.
[22:22] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: yes you can do that too
[22:22] <r00tintheb0x> chairman, proper typing is good.
[22:22] <Slart> NoIdeaMan: do you have a wireless network up and running?
[22:23] <r00tintheb0x> Or semi-proper.
[22:23] <p4_> imachine, ah yep that makes sense! nice one
[22:23] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, what would be the command for that?
[22:23] <NoIdeaMan> Yes Slart
[22:23] <imachine> p4_, :-) safe
[22:23] <NoIdeaMan> Buffalo brand
[22:23] <Slart> NoIdeaMan: then you should already have all the info from whatever is running that network
[22:23] <imachine> NoIdeaMan, and just key it into the networ kmanager applet.
[22:23] <Slart> NoIdeaMan: in ubuntu you'll have to use the network manager.. that's the little network icon in the task tray
[22:24] <breguard> I installed Ubuntu on an old intel celeron box and it went fine. When I try to boot, it will go through the GRUB, ubunutu splash loader, and then only show a brown screen with a mouse cursor and stop loading anything. Anyone have any idea what is going on? (Everything works fine from LiveCD)
[22:24] <NoIdeaMan> Won't auto connect or anything on Ubuntu
[22:24] <NoIdeaMan> I know that
[22:24] <imachine> which you either set up into roaming mode or into manual mode.
[22:24] <NoIdeaMan> I don't know the things needed t connect
[22:24] <Slart> NoIdeaMan: then I can't really help you.. wireless on linux isn't one of my strong areas
[22:24] <p4_> :)
[22:24] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: hm.  grub-install --root-directory=/media/<theParitionWithBoot> /dev/sda   somwhat like that
[22:24] <imachine> NoIdeaMan, should work no probs. do you see the network itself?
[22:24] <imachine> NoIdeaMan, if you click the icon, it ought to show a list of available networks it could pick up.
[22:25] <Slart> NoIdeaMan: what kind of stuff do you have running on wireless now? some kind of wireless router?
[22:25] <imachine> NoIdeaMan, unless you have no wireless... is it a fresh install?
[22:25] <NoIdeaMan> I see one network ( no idea if mine) but needs SSID or SID or something like that
[22:25] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc: so i can have grub-install --root-directory=/ /dev/sd
[22:25] <NoIdeaMan> Don't know that
[22:25] <imachine> nintendork32, problems with grub? try 'sudo update-grub'
[22:25] <nintendork32> squareplusc: wait do i want to run this on the live cd?
[22:26] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: the root is probably wrong. or are you actually running the system now?
[22:26] <nintendork32> imachine, its not installed
[22:26] <imachine> nintendork32, dunno
[22:26] <imachine> nintendork32, install it then, silly
[22:26] <imachine> :)
[22:26] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc: i am, can i install this from live cd though?
[22:26] <imachine> you'd have to chroot.
[22:26] <imachine> NoIdeaMan, if it worked before, then something went wrong.
[22:26] <nintendork32> imachine: i can just sudo it
[22:26] <imachine> NoIdeaMan, if it's a fresh install, try searching.
[22:27] <imachine> nintendork32, err, what can you sudo now?
[22:27] <nintendork32> imachine, nvm
[22:27] <NoIdeaMan> Never have had it working on Ubuntu works fine on Windows
[22:27] <imachine> nintendork32, chroot != sudo
[22:27] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: i though you were on a live cd. if you already run the linux you want, you may edit /boot/grub/menu.lst comments for the options and run update-grub
[22:27] <imachine> or su, for that matter.
[22:27] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc: can i install grub from live cd though?
[22:27] <imachine> NoIdeaMan, maybe you need another wifi driver.
[22:27] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: update-grub reads its options form the comments of that file
[22:27] <NoIdeaMan> Software supplied with the wireless USB says Windows
[22:28] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, i CAN run it but i dont have grub and is a pain in the ass to run
[22:28] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, ubuntu that is
[22:28] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: if you have installed ubuntu, you have grub.
[22:28] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, no i dont, i know for a fact i dont
[22:28] <NoIdeaMan> I might brb
[22:28] <NoIdeaMan> trying something
[22:29] <imachine> NoIdeaMan, there could be something in the ....
[22:29] <imachine> chers
[22:29] <arve> This isn't excactly Ubuntu related, but can anyone help me set up QoS on my Thompson ST585?
[22:29] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: so you want that the ubuntu folks fixes your non ubuntu install?.. great.. are we friendly... :-)
[22:29] <imachine> arve, I'm pretty sure google might.
[22:29] <imachine> arve, also, you need to know how you want to play qos out.
[22:29] <bquadra> hello :d
[22:29] <imachine> arve, unless there's some preconfigured options, you're better off paying someone to do it ,, or reading about the baiscs.
[22:29] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc: i have LILO and have to go through the bios bootloader to bootload the LILO bootlader
[22:29] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: in that case, yes, use the live cd with the grub-install command
[22:30] <arve> imachine: google could pretty much link me to the user manual PDF which didn't tell me a whole lot due to my inexperience with QoS
[22:30] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, ok, thanks for the help
[22:30] <imachine> arve, otherwise both you and your users will be having troubles.
[22:30] <nunocruz> hi good people , i have installed ubuntu 8.10 , upgrading from 8.10 , canonical CD
[22:30] <imachine> arve, so you need to read up on qos.
[22:30] <arve> it's that complex, eh? Allright. Time to study :)
[22:30] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: but if oyu had installed ubuntu you 'd have grub. to re install it you'd run update-grub and that's it.
[22:30] <arve> thanks
[22:31] <imachine> arve, it's not the concept of the qos itself, it's the concept of packet flow in Linux you should understand, and what there is to actually mark as particular traffic.
[22:31] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, i used the server install which contained LILO
[22:31] <imachine> arve, so tcp/udp basics are nice to know :)
[22:31] <nunocruz> unfortunally i also got this problem but ths solution don work for me
[22:31] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, i have desktop cd though
[22:31] <nunocruz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6116408
[22:31] <imachine> arve, I said Linux since that's probably what your thompson has under the hood.
[22:31] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: the ubuntu server also uses grub afik
[22:31] <imachine> it could well be something else, but the general concepts are usually the same, or very similar among different platforms.
[22:32] <nunocruz> I just upgraded to 8.10 from 8.04. After flollowing the whole process it arrived up to a point that it needed to reboot, which I did. Aftewr that i recieved a message that says
[22:32] <nunocruz> "fence tool waiting to cman to start" and
[22:32] <nunocruz> CCS [4353[ unable to conect to cluster infraestracture.
[22:32] <nunocruz> I am not able to pass that point.
[22:32] <nunocruz> what should I do?
[22:32] <FloodBot1> nunocruz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:32] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, but the idiot i am didnt install it :P
[22:32] <nunocruz> sorru
[22:32] <nunocruz> sorry
[22:32] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: apt-get install grub. as easy as this ;-)
[22:32] <nintendork32> ugh bots
[22:33] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, nope, tried it ;)
[22:33] <imachine> nintendork32, they keep order.
[22:33] <imachine> it's a busy channel
[22:33] <nintendork32> imachine, yeah but annoying too
[22:33] <nunocruz> 1226 users
[22:33] <nunocruz> 1447
[22:33] <imachine> well you can always turn off notices like those in irssi
[22:33] <imachine> I think I'll do taht now.
[22:33] <nunocruz> thats powerfull
[22:33] <imachine> too many joins flooding my terminal :-)
[22:33] <nintendork32> i have xchat
[22:34] <imachine> nintendork32, dunno.
[22:34] <nintendork32> well brb
[22:34] <imachine> by irssi I meant whatever you use ;]
[22:34] <Static--> is there a way to make the GDM into your lock screen, currently the lock theme isnt even close to whats enabled
[22:34] <imachine> Static--, huh>
[22:35] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc: grub-install --root-directory=/media/disk/boot/ hd0 correct?
[22:35] <nunocruz> some one use 8.10 ubuntu now
[22:35] <nunocruz> help me please
[22:35] <jemark> nunocruz:  yes, i do
[22:35] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: w/o /boot/. just up to ../disk/
[22:35] <nintendork32> !patience | nunocruz
[22:35] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: and its /dev/sda
[22:35] <imachine> nunocruz, fixing mine right now.
[22:36] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, i heard that would work too
[22:36] <Murrlin> slart, I think I found the trouble. a mismatched symlink
[22:37] <pen> ubuntu!!
[22:37] <pen> !ubuntu
[22:37] <pen> !ubottu
[22:37] <LjL> !msg the bot
[22:38] <imachine> nunocruz, I have an issue different from yours.
[22:38] <imachine> nunocruz, also it's good practice not to /pm strangers.
[22:38] <nunocruz> sorry
[22:38] <imachine> np
[22:39] <nunocruz> i know iknow sorry could be avoid doesn it
[22:39] <imachine> ofcourse
[22:39] <imachine> :-)
[22:39] <arve> thanks, imachine; i'll go read up then.
[22:39] <imachine> anyway, my issue is a bit different. I had an upgrade from 8.04 gotten interrupted.
[22:39] <Static--> irc_conf_mode 1
[22:39] <faryshta> Someone knows how to install Frostwire using OpenJDK?
[22:39] <nonewmsgs> I installed 8.10 on an acer aspire but it crashes during startup
[22:39] <imachine> so it doesn't find root fs with new kernels, panics, otherwise the X is not configured with mouse and kbd
[22:40] <imachine> and that's about it.
[22:40] <imachine> nonewmsgs, congrats on getting an acer
[22:40] <imachine> :)
[22:40] <nonewmsgs> acer aspire 4530
[22:40] <nonewmsgs> it seems like a kernal panic
[22:40] <imachine> seriously tho, some messages or so would be nice.
[22:40] <imachine> maybe the acer has messed up acpi.
[22:40] <imachine> or so.
[22:40] <imachine> try the "safe mode" option from grub yeah ?
[22:40] <zsquareplusc> imachine: couln't you run the live cd, then use chroot to go to your install and do the apt-get update, upgrade/disk-upgrade
[22:40] <imachine> if the bootcd worked fine, so should the newly installed box.
[22:41] <nonewmsgs> safe mode is the same problem
[22:41] <imachine> zsquareplusc, I could so, but that's plan b/
[22:41] <nonewmsgs> i installed using the alternate cd
[22:41] <imachine> zsquareplusc, I chose the old kernel, which boots fine, and currently am running aptitude dist-upgrade from the console.
[22:41] <zsquareplusc> ah ok
[22:41] <imachine> zsquareplusc, no biggie.
[22:42] <nonewmsgs> i tried google but i couldnt find anything on it.  is there anything else i should try like fixing the acpi thing
[22:42] <imachine> zsquareplusc, dpkg --configure -a spews errors about dbus
[22:43] <imachine> zsquareplusc, but I think aptitude will handle it wiser
[22:43] <imachine> no, damn.
[22:43] <imachine> it doesn't work too :]
[22:44] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc: what would the command be?
[22:44] <zsquareplusc> imachine: so the dbus package fails to configure? is there a hint on what it needs but is not ready?
[22:44] <jokkaa> is there any terminal command that will show all open windows...?
[22:45] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: hm? what command? if you say hd0 works, try it i dont know
[22:45] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, if i want to have /boot/ on sdb1 (which is mounted on /media/disk) and install grub on sda
[22:45] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, your full way
[22:45] <someone2005> Thanks...
[22:46] <imachine> zsquareplusc, yeah, there is no /var/run/dbus folder it says
[22:46] <imachine> and there's an issue with existing user messagebus.
[22:46] <zsquareplusc> imachine: create one ;-)
[22:46] <imachine> but I don't know where it 0's :)
[22:46] <imachine> zsquareplusc, dunno about perms etc.
[22:46] <imachine> are you on 8.10 ?
[22:46] <aunvoh> could anyone spare a second? i've got 2 questions, first is, i just installed ubuntu on my 2nd HDD, and now i can't boot into vista anymore, the 2nd question is why can't i delete files from other hard drives?
[22:46] <imachine> can you ls -al /var/run |grep dbus for me ?
[22:46] <someone2005> 8.10 looks interesting...
[22:47] <zsquareplusc> imachine: create one as messagebus.messagebus
[22:47] <imachine> 750 ?
[22:47] <nintendork32> aunvoh: ubuntu doesnt like ntfs partitions and you need to set grub up to chainload vista
[22:47] <zsquareplusc> imachine: drwxr-xr-x
[22:47] <imachine> cxheers
[22:48] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, if i want to have /boot/ on sdb1 (which is mounted on /media/disk) and install grub on sda what would the command be? your /dev/sda way
[22:48] <faryshta> Someone knows how to install Frostwire using OpenJDK?
[22:48] <imachine> zsquareplusc, ta!
[22:48] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32 it would be easier if you write what you think what it should be ;-)
[22:48] <TrueSongMedia> hey folks
[22:49] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, can you give me your way anyway?
[22:49] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc: grub-install --root-directory=/media/disk/ /dev/sda correct?
[22:49] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32 i think so, yes
[22:49] <imachine> zsquareplusc, that's what you get to go thru with when shutting down the machine while upgrading.
[22:50] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc ok thanks
[22:50] <imachine> ;]
[22:50] <timri> Why does blacklisting via-rhine not work?
[22:50] <click170> How can I take a LiveCD and put it on a USB stick?  Not to 'run' from, but just to use as a LiveCD, to boot and then install Ubuntu onto the machine's local HD?
[22:50] <_mmmkkky> hi, any reason why mplayer equilizer settings change on quitting mplayer (gui.conf) but are not applied on clicking on vid file
[22:50] <imachine> click170, 8.10 has some magic tool for that
[22:50] <zsquareplusc> !usb ¦ click170
[22:50] <ByteJuggler> Does anyone know how what the process associated to blueprints and additions to Ubuntu is?
[22:50] <zsquareplusc> !usb | click170
[22:51] <Mindpoke> Does anyone here have any experience with installing Ubuntu on an Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo Pro Xa 2528 laptop?
[22:51] <StevenX> What command can I use to add Open Office Writer to AWN's launcher?
[22:51] <zsquareplusc> click170: and there is also unetbootin
[22:51] <Kl4m> Hi, I virtualized a Ubuntu 7.10 server into vmware server and I need it to configure the pcnet32 card (or should  it be vmxnet?). Can anyone help with with this?
[22:51] <myles7897> anyone have some doc on uninstall Windows from a dual boot with Ubuntu?
[22:51] <dr_willis> StevenX,  the cli command to launch OOwriter i think is ooowrite  or oowrite
[22:51] <imachine> Kl4m, should work with networkmanager.
[22:51] <veryangryman> hello! i just upgraded from 8.04 (all accents working GOOD) to 8.10 (my tilde stoped working) how can i fix this? i have an spanish keyboard, and i need: ã and my keyboard does: ~a . i use fluxbox so i cant use the "key combine" from gnome
[22:51] <Dusk_> i have a problem..when i'm using ubuntu in power manager it shows remaining battery status and time for 10-15minutes..after that it shows as if it's plugged in and %0...what's this problem about??
[22:52] <StevenX> dr_willis: thanks.
[22:52] <AzMoo> Is this a kernel panic? Heaps of lines like: [ 1130.650856]  [<c0109f02>] sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x2f
[22:52] <tofu> anyone have a Dell mini 9 running ubuntu
[22:52] <imachine> veryangryman, you probably need to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[22:52] <imachine> or something like that
[22:52] <Kl4m> imachine: it was physical, now it's virtual. I need it to configure the "new" pcnet32 card
[22:52] <nintendork87> zsquareplusc: mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/disk//boot': No such file or directory
[22:52] <ByteJuggler> tofu: yes
[22:52] <veryangryman> imachine: ok
[22:53] <ByteJuggler> (dell's version at the minute, friend at work with netbook remix)
[22:53] <zsquareplusc> myles7897: wipe the partition and reformat it for a new use :-) or resize your /home to fill the free space. backup your data you dont want to loose 1st. you want to wipe taht windows install, don't you?
[22:53] <tofu> ByteJuggler, how do you like it
[22:53] <tofu> ByteJuggler, I am running windows xp on a dell mini 9
[22:53] <faryshta> Someone knows how to install Frostwire or Limewire using OpenJDK?
[22:53] <ByteJuggler> tofu: pretty snappy, better than winxp at least
[22:53] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32 leave the / at the end of the path away. and /media/disk is mounted?
[22:53] <ByteJuggler> tofu: we did a boot test
[22:53] <Dusk_> i have a problem..when i'm using ubuntu in power manager it shows remaining battery status and time for 10-15minutes..after that it shows as if it's plugged in and %0...what's this problem about??
[22:53] <nintendork87> zsquareplusc: ok worked
[22:53] <myles7897> zsquareplusc, yes I backed up the data. can I make the swap bigger too? recommend a partitioner?
[22:53] <ByteJuggler> tofu: the initial booting time is very nearly a dead heat
[22:53] <tofu> ByteJuggler, do you have a webcam with ubuntu linux dell mini 9
[22:54] <ByteJuggler> tofu: yes
[22:54] <nintendork87> zsquareplusc: what should i make menu.lst?
[22:54] <veryangryman> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[22:54] <Dusk_> i have a problem..when i'm using ubuntu in power manager it shows remaining battery status and time for 10-15minutes..after that it shows as if it's plugged in and %0...what's this problem about??
[22:54] <ByteJuggler> tofu: in the UK we get 2 hw versions, the XP version has slightly better webcam and bigger ssd
[22:54] <tofu> ByteJuggler, does dell include a program to run your webcam on ubuntu
[22:54] <ByteJuggler> tofu: yes
[22:54] <nintendork87> zsquareplusc: to have auto boot aperating system off and have it possible to chainload ubuntu and XP
[22:54] <Tyrath> clear
[22:54] <imachine> AzMoo, a kernel panic is when a kernel panics. i.e. blinking keyboard lights, no response. what you get is prolly a kernel bug.
[22:54] <imachine> or an application causing a kernel bug, which generally means a kernel bug :)
[22:54] <nintendork87> zsquareplusc: operating system*
[22:54] <Tyrath> ubuntu hangs on boot. when the usplash progress bar is half way it hangs. any ideas?
[22:54] <_cb> I don't have sound but if I log in as another user that other user does. How can I see what is Ubuntu doing differently?
[22:55] <tofu> ByteJuggler, what about sound can you record sound from the webcam
[22:55] <ByteJuggler> tofu: haven't tried
[22:55] <zsquareplusc> myles7897: too much swap is useless, you dont want your computer using slow harddisk as memory ;-) but for hibernation, swap>=RAM is a good idea. gparted is a partitioner. it should be in system->admin in ubuntu
[22:55] <nintendork87> tyrath: maybe fstab? i had a similar error
[22:55] <ByteJuggler> tofu: I'll try hang on
[22:55] <click170> zsquareplusc, imachine: thnx
[22:55] <ByteJuggler> I'll go get it
[22:55] <faryshta> tofu, ByteJuggler what gpu, processor and wireless have dell 9?
[22:55] <faryshta> I wanna buy one
[22:55] <billyboy> Could anyone help me get my internal microphone to work?
[22:55] <Tyrath> nintendork87: I configured wireless to start on boot so I wouldn't have to start up the GUI. coud it be that?
[22:55] <tofu> faryshta, an intel Atom processor
[22:56] <tofu> faryshta, it uses 9 watts of power
[22:56] <nintendork87> Tyrath: i dunno, i always use GUI
[22:56] <faryshta> graphic card and wireless? thanks for the other info.
[22:56] <nintendork87> Tyrath: even on my server
[22:56] <tofu> faryshta, its 1.6 mghz
[22:56] <ByteJuggler> faryshta: gpu is intel, but enough for compiz
[22:56] <chairman> can anybody help me plz. i need to get macro flash player and the latest one not working
[22:56] <Tyrath> nintendork87: I changed the permission of /dev/fb0 to me. - that's the last fstab related change I remember
[22:56] <chairman> they tell me to go to synaptics package
[22:56] <ByteJuggler> faryshta:  wireless - will have to check what chipset
[22:56] <nintendork87> Tyrath: maybe xubuntu might be what you want, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[22:57] <ByteJuggler> broadcom i think
[22:57] <nintendork87> Tyrath: lot less ram
[22:57] <Dusk_> i have a problem..when i'm using ubuntu in power manager it shows remaining battery status and time for 10-15minutes..after that it shows as if it's plugged in and %0...what's this problem about??
[22:57] <Tyrath> nintendork87: nope I need the GUI for playing games :P
[22:57] <faryshta> ByteJuggler, to enable the gpu you installed any privative driver?
[22:57] <tofu> faryshta, I recommend you get a Dell mini 9 before they are extinct
[22:57] <ByteJuggler> no
[22:57] <ByteJuggler> it all worked out of the box
[22:57] <nintendork87> Tyrath: use xubuntu anyway, less ram
[22:57] <ByteJuggler> the dell distro has anything enabled
[22:57] <faryshta> and to get the wireless just do: lspci | grep Wireless
[22:57] <nintendork87> Tyrath: it is a GUI
[22:57] <IDWMaster> My updates are installing very slowly. Does anyone know why?
[22:57] <ByteJuggler> (except, they removed the settings dialog)
[22:57] <faryshta> Tyrath, yeah xubuntu is the best option.
[22:58] <nintendork87> zsquareplusc: to have auto boot operating system off and have it possible to chainload ubuntu and XP
[22:58] <Tyrath> nintendork87: besides most of the web doesn't work effectively without GUI graphic browsers. the webs too advanced for text browsers
[22:58] <nintendork87> Tyrath: it is a GUI, xubuntu is
[22:58] <tofu> ByteJuggler, Have you used a MSI Wind netbook ?
[22:58] <IDWMaster> Has anyone had trouble installing updates on Ubuntu?
[22:58] <tofu> Netbooks are the best solution nowadays
[22:58] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32, something along that lines: http://paste.ubuntu.com/76604/
[22:58] <IDWMaster> The updates seem to be going very slowly today.
[22:58] <Tyrath> nintendork87: when I mean games I mean heavy graphic card resource intenstive games ( on high graphic mode ). would that work effectively on xubuntu?
[22:58] <ByteJuggler> tofu: no, have been tempted to get that though
[22:59] <tofu> Mini 9s are under $400.00
[22:59] <ByteJuggler> looks nice specs
[22:59] <faryshta> if the price of one of those dell 9 is less of 3 weeks of my work, then I will buy it. Thanks tofu and ByteJuggler.
[22:59] <lcman12> can anyone help me configure some Intel drivers graphics drivers?
[22:59] <joeb3_> IDWMaster, don't know why. The security updates are going at 23kps
[22:59] <nintendork87> Tyrath, yeah just different window manage, similar to gnome
[22:59] <myles7897> zsquareplusc, I have 58gib extra now, do you recommend I add some to my 3.65gib swap or all to /home?
[22:59] <ByteJuggler> but the mini 9 is v.nice so far
[22:59] <Tyrath> nintendork87: I have to already set the nice level to -20 to make the games play well
[22:59] <Tyrath> nintendork87: ah k
[22:59] <tofu> faryshta, Mini 9s are under $400.00 us
[22:59] <billyboy> my mic doesnt work would anyone be able to help?
[22:59] <IDWMaster> Does anyone know why updates are installing slowly today?
[22:59] <Tyrath> nintendork87: is it possible to roll across or would I have to reinstall?
[23:00] <zsquareplusc> myles7897: sounds like swap is large enough. i'd put that space to /home. or keep it as separate  data partition if you want
[23:00] <methodmarvel> question: 32bit vs 64bit and ram - is it true you can only utilise more than 3GB of ram with a 64bit system?
[23:00] <p4_> yeh its a bit slow eh
[23:00] <faryshta> tofu, yeah but I am from mexico, the price of dollar explode this last month.
[23:00] <p4_> longest update i think i've ever seen
[23:00] <tofu> faryshta, lmao
[23:00] <billyboy> @methodmarvel, yes it is
[23:00] <dr_willis> methodmarvel,  I think the limit is right at 4gb...
[23:00] <Tyrath> nintendork87: because I've installed a lot of progs which I really don't want to have to reinstall, and bound things I like, aliased things I like
[23:00] <zsquareplusc> methodmarvel: yes. the limit for 32 bits is around 3.5GB
[23:00] <Jambon> I would like to know if anyone knows any ways of retreiving data off a partition that has no read permission?
[23:00] <IDWMaster> The server appears to be only allowing a certain number of connections right now.
[23:00] <Tyrath> nintendork87: changed settings I like...
[23:00] <faryshta> tofu, I earn 6 miniums salaries, I have the will to pay 3 or 4 minium salaries, not more.
[23:00] <methodmarvel> well that's a shame
[23:00] <nintendork87> Tyrath: its FINE dont worry!
[23:00] <dr_willis> methodmarvel,  if you have exactly 4gb.. and 32bit.. some of the ram will not be seen/used.. depending on the system
[23:00] <billyboy> i had to upgrade to 64 bit to utilize my 4 gb
[23:01] <Tyrath> nintendork87: like I mean boot stuff, permissions stuff, resolution stuff, networking configurations...
[23:01] <cappiz> someone here using dante proxy?
[23:01] <tofu> faryshta, I am really not sure about the pay skill in Mexico I  assume its less than America
[23:01] <ByteJuggler> faryshta: well i can confirm it's possible to record video and sound from the webcam
[23:01] <nintendork87> zsquareplusc: will that MAKE you have to choose what operating system and boot XP too?
[23:01] <djdarkman> hi, isn't /etc/rc.local working anymore?
[23:01] <ByteJuggler> (well, the webcam + mic, lol)
[23:01] <ByteJuggler> using the "cheese" application
[23:01] <myles7897> zsquareplusc, ok, thanks. also I have 19.8gb of music, would that be good on a separate partition, or would that just be pointless?
[23:01] <methodmarvel> I want a 13.3" system and I found a Samsung Q310 but it only works in 32bit mode at the moment - 64bit version crashes
[23:01] <faryshta> ByteJuggler, tofu but what is the wireless?
[23:01] <ByteJuggler> it's a bit like the apple thing
[23:01] <Tyrath> nintendork87: and the boot issue, would xub fix that?
[23:01] <ByteJuggler> ok hang on
[23:01] <djdarkman> if not, what alternatives are to rc.local?
[23:01] <tofu> ByteJuggler, Whats the output file for the recorded video unbuntu linux on the Dell mini 9
[23:02] <faryshta> lspci | grep Wireless
[23:02] <IDWMaster> Is everyone downloading updates at the same time? The update server isn't responding right now.
[23:02] <nintendork87> Tyrath: no but less ram
[23:02] <ByteJuggler> driver is "wl"...
[23:02] <LjL> methodmarvel: and you can use more than 3gb of ram?
[23:02] <ByteJuggler> for what thats worth
[23:02] <Dusk_> i have a problem..when i'm using ubuntu in power manager it shows remaining battery status and time for 10-15minutes..after that it shows as if it's plugged in and %0...what's this problem about??
[23:02] <Tyrath> nintendork87: ah k :/. ill solve on problem at a time then
[23:02] <Tyrath> nintendork87: thanks for the tip tho
[23:02] <Bangers> Hi, I'm running "ssh user@server foobar" however I'm getting command not found.  Where do I set my PATH on the Destination user@server ?  The user is running bash
[23:03] <LjL> Bangers, you aren't running it with the quotation marks, are you...?
[23:03] <zsquareplusc> myles7897: separate partition means the free space you have is always on the wrong disk (by muprhy's law). but having /home or your data separate always makes life easier if you ever going to reinstall ubuntu or something else
[23:03] <ByteJuggler> looks like broadcom bcm4130
[23:03] <tofu> ByteJuggler, yes its a broadcom
[23:03]  * Tyrath is hoping that when he plugs in the ethernet cable it doesn't stop the internet for about the 200th time
[23:03] <nintendork87> zsquareplusc: will that MAKE you have to choose what operating system and boot XP too? That will chainload ubuntu too right? I dont want to boot GRUB then LILO
[23:03] <Bangers> LjL - no ..
[23:03] <LjL> Bangers: one never knows.
[23:03] <tofu> I hate broadcoms
[23:03] <Kl4m> ssh user@host "command"
[23:03] <sudobash> i forgot where how i was starting up tightvncserver at startup
[23:03] <ByteJuggler> ala lspci
[23:03] <Tyrath> hmm I seem to still be here
[23:04] <sudobash> my local settings got overwritten
[23:04] <Tyrath> wow. this is progress
[23:04] <faryshta> thanks ByteJuggler I will find if they use opensource drivers because I want to install XUbuntu and Fedora (fedora only uses free software)
[23:04] <myles7897> zsquareplusc, ok, I'm just going to add most to /home, but how? the resize button is greyed out on gparted. I started it with sudo too.
[23:04] <ByteJuggler> sudobash: System->Remote desktop
[23:04] <Bangers> Kl4m: thats how I'm doing it .. I was just quoting the full command i was running for IRC
[23:04] <veryangryman> hey guys im back
[23:04] <tofu> ByteJuggler, Do you have a built in microphone on the Dell mini 9
[23:04] <erUSUL> myles7897: mounted partitions can not be edited
[23:04] <ByteJuggler> well I believe it is oss
[23:04] <Tyrath> now what's the bet that when I remove the ethernet cable i loose my connection...
[23:04] <myles7897> erUSUL, So I have to....?
[23:04] <Tyrath> hmm
[23:04] <ByteJuggler> I'm lying
[23:05] <erUSUL> myles7897: do the operations from a liveCD
[23:05] <Tyrath> this is awesome!
[23:05] <disappearedng> how do I split cue flac files to mp3?
[23:05] <Tyrath> i'm still here!
[23:05] <ByteJuggler> the wl driver in use is proprietary
[23:05] <nintendork87> Trath: nope use, youll get a ghost, use /quit
[23:05] <ByteJuggler> hmmm
[23:05] <faryshta> ByteJuggler, can I ask you a last favor? Go system->Hardware drivers and tell me please, please if it has any option marked.
[23:05] <ByteJuggler> tofu: yes you have mic
[23:05] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32 it should load ubuntu right away. as well as windoze. you may want to remove the hiddenmenu if you want to get asked each time (otherwise ouy have to press ESC). and i see the /hd0,0) in the 1st linux section is wrong. it should be hd1,0 (sdb1)
[23:05] <veryangryman> my problem is: all my accents works, except the tilde (~) ... so i can type: áéíóúàèìòùâêôûêñç but, i cant type ~a ... the tilde doesnt works :( how do i fix this? i use fluxbox....
[23:05] <myles7897> erUSUL, can I created USB start disk, using System > Admin and use that?
[23:05] <ByteJuggler> faryshta: yes, as I just said, driver in use for wireless "wl" is in there
[23:05] <ByteJuggler> :S
[23:05] <tofu> ByteJuggler, Do you have a bluetooth installed
[23:05] <sudobash> ok but I am ssh in right now to get vnc server up what do i type in: tightvncserver?
[23:05] <veryangryman> imachine: it did not work...
[23:05] <ByteJuggler> tofu: yes
[23:05] <erUSUL> disappearedng: shntool split -f cdimage.cue -o mp3 cdimage.flac
[23:06] <ByteJuggler> tofu: bluetooth was a doddle
[23:06] <faryshta> ByteJuggler, thanks.
[23:06] <ByteJuggler> instantly picked up my phone etc
[23:06] <Dusk_> i have a problem..when i'm using ubuntu in power manager it shows remaining battery status and time for 10-15minutes..after that it shows as if it's plugged in and %0...what's this problem about??
[23:06] <erUSUL> myles7897: never tried but any live system that does not need to mount the partitions invloved should work
[23:06] <ByteJuggler> faryshta:  my colleague is running Ubuntu netbook remix
[23:06] <aunvoh> I was just talking to someone, and i got disconnected are you still here?
[23:06] <erUSUL> disappearedng: no need to pm for a thanks... but no problem
[23:06] <Tyrath> ok, I'd like to advise someone about the /networks/interfaces file. if you're having the same problem as me when it came to connecting/disconnecting a cable, learn that this will no longer be an issue if you do the auto eth0 stuff before you do the auto wlan0 stuff in your interfaces file. ie, make wired run before wireless
[23:06] <ByteJuggler> his wireless still works, I can find out if he's using oss driver if you want
[23:06] <tofu> ByteJuggler, Did you order the mini 9 with bluetooth or was it already included
[23:07] <donnie__> Hi, I was just wondering if there's a known app or way to check a hard drive for bad sectors? I don't care CLI or GUI... it needs to be able to check NTFS
[23:07] <ByteJuggler> all included
[23:07] <vbman11> hey guys, how would I boot in to the hp recovery partition on a none ubuntu computer, I'm asking here because everything I've found so far doesn't work
[23:07] <tofu> ByteJuggler, How can i tell if I have bluetooth in my mini 9
[23:07] <myles7897> erUSUL, zsquareplusc thanks for your help. :D
[23:07] <WillyWonka389> I have a problem with my internal microphone not respobding to any application, any ideas?
[23:07] <LjL> disappearedng: or you could use a better, free format such as Ogg Vorbis to begin with ;)
[23:07] <erUSUL> myles7897: no problem
[23:07] <ByteJuggler> tofu: you have bluetooth icon in system tray area
[23:07] <sudobash> vnc server isnt letting me in
[23:07] <nintendork87> i always forget the window manager command
[23:07] <ByteJuggler> whatever that's called in gnome
[23:07] <nintendork87>  what is it?
[23:07] <tofu> ByteJuggler, nope i dont
[23:08] <tofu> ByteJuggler, I probably dont have it
[23:08] <myles7897> you guys do good work. :)
[23:08] <ByteJuggler> tofu: hmm
[23:08] <ByteJuggler> tofu: what version exactly did you buy?
[23:08] <ByteJuggler> tofu: and where?
[23:08] <Tyrath> does anyone here use an HP printer?
[23:08] <sudobash> how do i properly start vncserver from command prompt?
[23:08] <tofu> ByteJuggler, The Xp version direct from Dell
[23:08] <Flare183> I
[23:08] <Flare183> oops
[23:08] <ByteJuggler> tofu: in uk?
[23:08] <Cailus> hi everyone
[23:08] <MaT-dg1> how can I 'undo' the fact that I mountet my entire data-partition in my home folder in this step of installing intrepid? http://www.shivaranjan.com/shivaupload/windowslivewriter/UbuntuLinuxInt.10InstallationWalkThrough_10AB/ubuntu_linux_installation_7_thumb.png
[23:08] <nintendork87> Hey Flare
[23:09] <tofu> ByteJuggler, no usa
[23:09] <ByteJuggler> tofu: hmm interesting
[23:09] <erUSUL> disappearedng: my bad p3 is not supported... you will have to split to wav and compress with other tool
[23:09] <ByteJuggler> tofu: mines xp uk version
[23:09] <zsquareplusc> sudobash: just vncserver or if you want add -geom 1280x1024 -depth 32
[23:09] <tofu> ByteJuggler, Are you in the U.K
[23:09] <ByteJuggler> tofu: yes
[23:09] <disappearedng> so
[23:09] <erUSUL> disappearedng: wav ot flac ...
[23:09] <nibbler> MaT-dg1: umount it?
[23:09] <erUSUL> or*
[23:09] <disappearedng> k
[23:09] <disappearedng> which is easier?
[23:09] <zsquareplusc> sudobash: it will sk you for a password the very 1st time and store it for later sessions
[23:09] <Tyrath> tofu: if it's an xp version you may need wine to launch it
[23:09] <sudobash> i tried that and it wont let me connect when i was just connecting
[23:09] <sudobash> i know ports are fine
[23:10] <erUSUL> disappearedng: maybe flac becouse hopefully it will keep the metadata (id3 tags)
[23:10] <ByteJuggler> tofu: I presume you also used the dell ubuntu cd to replace xp?
[23:10] <ByteJuggler> (just to check)
[23:10] <WillyWonka389> anyone know how to configure a internal microphone?
[23:10] <tofu> ByteJuggler, well I dont think Dell included the Bluetooth module for free in the mini 9 i might have to buy the module for $20.00 USA
[23:10] <zsquareplusc> sudobash: when starting vncserver it prints the address to connect to
[23:10] <The_ManU_212> hi
[23:10] <Tyrath> so no-one uses an HP printer? cause I just wanted to know how to get the icon off my menu at startup...
[23:10] <MaT-dg1> nibbler: I want to permanently unmount it and when I do 'umount /dev/sda2/ in terminal it says "device is busy"
[23:10] <lcman12> I have a question regarding an intel graphics card
[23:10] <ByteJuggler> tofu: i see, in the UK we get 2 fixed spec machines.  the xp version is the better one, and obv. here includes bluetooth
[23:10] <WillyWonka389> Tyrath, i used to
[23:10] <sudobash> joseph    7183  0.0  0.2   8340  5784 pts/2    S    15:07   0:00 Xtightvnc :1 -desktop X -auth /home/joseph/.Xauthority -geometry 1024x768 -depth 24 -rfbwait 120000 -rfbauth /ho
[23:11] <WillyWonka389> i always just exxed it out
[23:11] <ByteJuggler> tofu: so I got the xp spec and wiped off xp without even running it once (lol)
[23:11] <tofu> ByteJuggler, lol
[23:11] <Tyrath> WillyWonka389: did you have a stupid icon on your GUI menu that you constantly had to right click on and close?
[23:11] <The_ManU_212> i use hardy heron i install my updates with the adept kde tool, but sometimes i use apt-get is adept built on apt-get or a freontend, i heard you shouldnt mix aptitude or apt-get but what abut apt-get AND adept?
[23:11] <WillyWonka389> yeah
[23:11] <WillyWonka389> nothing i could do
[23:11] <Tyrath> WillyWonka389: gah :/
[23:11] <WillyWonka389> HP manger right?
[23:11] <Tyrath> WillyWonka389: yes
[23:11] <Kl4m> (How) Can I force Ubuntu to reconfigure all the network cards?
[23:11] <carpii> The_Manu it should be fine i think
[23:11] <nintendork87> what is the command for the File Browser? nasulia?
[23:11] <erUSUL> nintendork87: nautilus
[23:11] <carpii> synaptic is just a gui wrapper for apt-get
[23:12] <zsquareplusc> nintendork87: nautlius
[23:12] <Cailus> hi everybody
[23:12] <tofu> I would stay away from HP Computers especially the laptops they suck
[23:12] <Tyrath> K14m: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[23:12] <sudobash> New 'X' desktop is joseph-laptop:1
[23:12] <tofu> For Open Source OS go with dell
[23:12] <sudobash> that mean 5900 right?
[23:12] <tofu> usually all items are supported
[23:12] <Cailus> does someone speak french here ?
[23:12] <cliffbreaker> hi everyone. Cannot update Ubuntu - fails to connect to security.ubuntu.com. What's the matter? the server is down?? Who can help?
[23:12] <gangsterlicious> i actually have good experience with compaq/hp more so than sony.
[23:12] <WillyWonka389> Soo.... any ideas on the microphone.  i think its realted to pulseaudio
[23:13] <zsquareplusc> sudobash: yes and no. it runs the server on tcp port 5901. but for a vnc client it is just :1
[23:13] <tofu> blah ! HP
[23:13] <urthmover> I am trying to mount an HFSplus drive read/write on ubuntu server and I get an error     mount: unknown filesystem type 'users'
[23:13] <erUSUL> !fr | Cailus
[23:13] <urthmover> how do I resolve it?
[23:13] <erUSUL> urthmover: what command line are you using?
[23:13] <carpii> urthmoveer, sounds like youre missing a param
[23:13] <Tyrath> clear
[23:13] <_cb> no sound for me sound for other user on the same system. Think it is pulse audio server. Works for other user not for me.
[23:13] <ByteJuggler> so who can tell me about launchpad and blueprints and things?
[23:13] <Tyrath> gah I keep typing clear sorry
[23:13] <urthmover> sudo mount -a
[23:13] <faryshta> cliffbreaker, check if you are behind a proxy.
[23:13] <tofu> I want to try out an MSI Wind so bad
[23:13] <carpii> check /etc/fstab
[23:13] <Tyrath> ByteJuggler: launchpad.net
[23:13] <WillyWonka389> _Cb: i have the same proble
[23:14] <WillyWonka389> i got my sound working using the walkthrough in the forums
[23:14] <urthmover> yes I agree that its a problem in /etc/fstab/  I'm just not sure how to fix it
[23:14] <faryshta> Someone knows how to install Frostwire or Limewire using OpenJDK?
[23:14] <ByteJuggler> tyrath: yes I want to know about the process that a blueprint goes through to implementation
[23:14] <erUSUL> urthmover: paste your /etc/fstab ina pastebin please
[23:14] <urthmover> ok
[23:14] <erUSUL> !paste | urthmover
[23:14] <carpii> well nor are we, until you paste what line youre using
[23:14] <cliffbreaker> faryshta: no I'm not. Packages from updates, main, multiverse and universe are just obtained pretty well
[23:14] <kevin_> Hi Guys, can someone help me with the 'keyring' feature of my wireless network ?:o)
[23:14] <Tyrath> urthmover: apt-get install pastebinit :D will simplify pastebinning :D
[23:14] <aunvoh> can someone remind me how to launch gparted? i just did sudo apt-get install gparted and now i can't remember how to start it
[23:14] <ByteJuggler> tyrath: can one just pick up any old blueprint and start implementing it or what?
[23:15] <Tyrath> ByteJuggler: I have no idea what that means sorry. I'm no linux expert :/
[23:15] <StuckMojo> what's up with security?
[23:15] <faryshta> cliffbreaker, I am updating now and have your same issue, then is not user-side, is server-side
[23:15] <Tyrath> ByteJuggler: I help when I can
[23:15] <_cb> WillyWonka389 I had sound. Lost it. Other users on the system still have it. You have the same problem?
[23:15] <faryshta> in other words cliffbreaker the server is slow now.
[23:15] <urthmover> ok  http://pastebin.com/m1ffe46a0
[23:15] <faryshta> try in a few seconds.
[23:15] <WillyWonka389> close
[23:15] <StuckMojo> security.ubuntu.com that is
[23:15] <comradekingu> Bytejuggler: "Sudo gparted" in terminal
[23:15] <sudobash> now it is showing just a terminal like when i first installed... It will connect with KRDC but it just shows a grey background and a single terminal... last time I connected 15 minutes ago before reboot and settings were changed I actually saw the users desktop... I think the vncserver is creating a new desktop on 1
[23:15] <ByteJuggler> tyrath: ah sorry I thought when you said launchpad.net it was asking if that was what I was asking about
[23:15] <sudobash> New 'X' desktop is joseph-laptop:1
[23:15] <erUSUL> aunvoh: Alt + f2 "gksudo gparted "
[23:15] <WillyWonka389> the upgrade to hardy screwed up my sound
[23:15] <Flare183> Is is possible to copy files via a parallel cable?
[23:15] <tofu> Windows Vista is a real wanker of an operating system
[23:15] <faryshta> also tried to open the url security.ubuntu.com and take ages to load a single folder.
[23:15] <StuckMojo> is there a status page somewhere?
[23:15] <urthmover> erUSUL: http://pastebin.com/m1ffe46a0
[23:16] <cliffbreaker> faryshta. Ok, thank you. Then I'll wait
[23:16] <erUSUL> Flare183: o.0
[23:16] <Tyrath> ByteJuggler: I thought you wanted to know the address of launchpad lol. sorry
[23:16] <WillyWonka389> i used the comprehensive in the forums to get it back, but my microphone still doesnt work
[23:16] <basedbox> dont sudo ur box .. It might voodoo u
[23:16] <faryshta> tofu, don't insult vista please, thanks to vista my friends use linux :-P
[23:16] <carpii> urthmover: filesystem is space delimited, not comma
[23:16] <_cb> WillyWonka389: Do you have only one user on your system or multiple users?
[23:16] <WillyWonka389> i had to configur pulseaduio
[23:16] <StuckMojo> faryshta: doesn't answer for me at all
[23:16] <WillyWonka389> one
[23:16] <ByteJuggler> tyrath: lol no worries
[23:16] <WillyWonka389> are you on hardy or intrepid?
[23:16] <tofu> faryshta, lol
[23:16] <urthmover> ok carpii  lemme see how to change that
[23:16] <Flare183> erUSUL: Yeah I know it sounds weird but I don't think I have any other means of copying files right now.
[23:16] <_cb> Ahh... so your problem may or may not be same as mine
[23:16] <sudobash> how to i connect to the users desktop and not to the new X server that was created?
[23:16]  * Tyrath is so confused about gnome-desktop
[23:16] <Flare183> !who
[23:16] <faryshta> StuckMojo, sorry what? I didn't saw your comment.
[23:16] <kevin_> Anyone know how i can get the keyring password prompt to stop appearing when i login to my laptop ?
[23:16] <Cailus> hola que tal ?
[23:17] <zsquareplusc> sudobash: yes thats the default. you can configure what it runs in a file in the .vnc folder. you can for example launch gnome-session (you can also type that in that terminal)
[23:17] <zsquareplusc> !who | sudobash
[23:17] <Cailus> habla espanol ?
[23:17] <StuckMojo> faryshta: security
[23:17] <Tyrath> Flare183: please point the !who to someone
[23:17] <test34> Anyone know if the Ekiga 3.0.1 (for Ubuntu 8.10) packages at http://ppa.launchpad.net/tlbdk/ubuntu/pool/main/e/ekiga/ are safe?
[23:17] <ByteJuggler> sudobash: System->Remote desktop, create password, connect to machine:5900 from vnc client
[23:17] <sudobash> thanks
[23:17] <erUSUL> Flare183: i do not know if that still works we are on 21 century XD http://tldp.org/HOWTO/PLIP.html
[23:17] <tofu> I say Hola que tal amiga to all the spanish girls I meet in the USA
[23:17] <urthmover> carpii: so you are saying remove the commas  between the switches  in fstab?
[23:17] <zsquareplusc> sudobash: if you want to have your primary screen shared, there is a setting in system->prefs
[23:17] <Tyrath> Flare183: !who > <user> is more desirable that !who | <user>
[23:17] <faryshta> StuckMojo, well try to open the url in firefox. http://security.ubuntu.com/
[23:17] <sudobash> ByteJuggler i am doing this from remote 3000 miles away
[23:17] <Flare183> Tyrath: ...
[23:17] <Cailus> i'm a spanish girl
[23:17] <ByteJuggler> sudobash: aaaah....
[23:17] <sudobash> through ssh
[23:18] <carpii> well from what i can see, its sdb1 thats failing, because youre not specifying a filesystem then a space, then comme delimited options
[23:18] <Flare183> erUSUL: ok
[23:18] <p4_> there's something up with this update...i hope its all ok
[23:18] <basedbox> Hahahhahaha
[23:18] <tofu> Cailus, lol
[23:18] <StuckMojo> faryshta: yeah i just said it doesn't answer for me at all. that's why i'm here. looking for a status update
[23:18] <StuckMojo> anyone know anything?
[23:18] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, i changed the line for ubuntu but it says error 15 ile not found when i restarted
[23:18] <nintendork32> file*
[23:18] <WillyWonka389> would anyone be able to help with microphone/sound problem?
[23:18] <erUSUL> urthmover: http://pastebin.com/m2d436c1e there is an space between the file system type hfsplus and the options
[23:18] <tofu> Cailus, you are the first spanish girl I have met in a Linux chatroom
[23:18] <basedbox> crazy
[23:18] <WillyWonka389> ha
[23:18] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc: must be a line wrong
[23:18] <erUSUL> urthmover: you forgot it
[23:18] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: different kernel version? you need to check the filenames with what's available in /boot
[23:18] <Cailus> tofu, hummm interested ?
[23:18] <faryshta> StuckMojo, well all I can recommend is to wait.
[23:19] <Tyrath> Flare183: just makes it easier for people to realise when they're making the mistakes that's all :)
[23:19] <ByteJuggler> lol
[23:19] <Cailus> no I joke
[23:19] <urthmover> carpii: so the line should read    /dev/sdb1       /media/ExternalHD       hfsplus rw,exec,auto,users      0       0
[23:19] <erUSUL> urthmover: i suspect that the udf entry is wrong too? did you hand edited it ?
[23:19] <Flare183> Tyrath: I know
[23:19] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, ok
[23:19] <Tyrath> !hangonboot
[23:19] <cliffbreaker> StuckMojo: well just hope that server maintainers are aware of it
[23:19] <Flare183> !lol | ByteJuggler
[23:19] <tofu> Cailus, Si Claro
[23:19] <carpii> i dont know. there should be a space after hfsplus     i know that much
[23:19] <urthmover> yes erUSUL
[23:19] <StuckMojo> that's one thing debian was better about. if there were problems like that, someone updated the channel topic with info about it
[23:19] <methodmarvel> question: best graphics card manufacturer for ubuntu is nvidia pretty much right?
[23:19] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: and that U in root=U is mistyped in case you copied that too :/
[23:19] <urthmover> ok carpii I've done that
[23:19] <erUSUL> Flare183: if you succeed tell me XD
[23:19] <tofu> Cailus, I love Spanish woman
[23:19] <carpii> sudo mount -a
[23:19] <urthmover> and erUSUL what do you think about the udf one?
[23:19] <erUSUL> urthmover: well put an space there too
[23:19] <Flare183> erUSUL: fail
[23:19] <Tyrath> wow I didn't know that lol rule was a rule in hear :/ that's strict
[23:19] <urthmover> thats for a cdrom  right?
[23:20] <Cailus> I'm french
[23:20] <toastedmilk> How do I mount an ipod to a specific location?
[23:20] <Flare183> erUSUL: I'm not doing that
[23:20] <basedbox> Cailus how much?
[23:20] <erUSUL> Flare183: why?
[23:20] <Cailus> 50$ for a spank
[23:20] <comradekingu> !mount | toastedmilk
[23:20] <basedbox> Show me ur initialising string....
[23:20] <faryshta> Someone knows how to install Frostwire or Limewire using OpenJDK?
[23:20] <faryshta> Cailus, sold.
[23:20] <basedbox> Hahaha
[23:20] <Cailus> ok lol
[23:20] <tofu> Spanish girls rock my world
[23:20] <faryshta> Where do I receive my money?
[23:21] <Cailus> 100$ per hours for more
[23:21] <tofu> in pay pal account
[23:21] <faryshta> then I will gladly spank you.
[23:21] <zsquareplusc> !ot
[23:21] <Cailus> payement with paypal :p lol
[23:21] <tofu> Cailus, lol
[23:21] <cairnzi> what do you think is the best ubuntu channel? apart from this one?
[23:21] <ByteJuggler> ok well cheerios, I'll go ask my question about Launchpad, on Launchpad... :P
[23:21] <basedbox> I hate girls and boys
[23:21] <basedbox> I like animals
[23:21] <tofu> ByteJuggler, Okay bloke
[23:22] <Tyrath> basedbox: so what do you like then?
[23:22] <faryshta> Cailus, great idea, also you can buy some action to a nigerian fortune there.
[23:22] <Cailus> may be
[23:22] <jojo_> hey everybody
[23:22] <Cailus> but I prefer to play some special games
[23:22] <carpii> rey replacing 'udf,iso9660' with 'auto'
[23:22] <faryshta> Cailus, ya, hay que comportarnos que nos corren. ;-)
[23:22] <jojo_> can anybody help me
[23:22] <jojo_> ^^
[23:22]  * Tyrath excuses himself for going offtopic
[23:22] <david_elcampello>  /server irc.esred.org 7777
[23:22] <Cailus> domination / submition
[23:22] <tofu> ByteJuggler, Say Hello to Lily Allen for me I love her music
[23:22] <Cailus> master and slave
[23:22] <S_SubZero> I want to update the nvidia driver, but it won't let me do it with X running.  How do I get out of X?
[23:23] <jojo_> my acer hotkey doesnt work ... gotta aspire 9420
[23:23] <Cailus> and some others special stuffs
[23:23] <Flare183> erUSUL: Because I rather not mess with my kernel
[23:23] <Pici> Cailus: This is not on topic nor appropriate for this channel.
[23:23] <faryshta> Cailus, jajaja I have some ropes and helmets waiting.
[23:23] <basedbox> oK...
[23:23] <tofu> Dig those Crazy Rythmns
[23:23] <Tyrath> basedbox: !offtopic > basedbox
[23:23] <Tyrath> !offtopic > basedbox
[23:23] <faryshta> Cailus, you rocks but yeah we need to moderate.
[23:23] <erUSUL> Flare183: the plip module is already built in ubuntu...
[23:23] <Cailus> Pici, it's just a joke
[23:23] <Cailus> i'm not serious
[23:23] <Cailus> don worry
[23:23] <erUSUL> Flare183: /lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic/kernel/drivers/net/plip.ko
[23:23] <tofu> okay geeks dont fret
[23:23] <Tundrayeti311> !enter Cailus
[23:23] <zsquareplusc> S_SubZero: ctrl+alt+F1 give you a text console, F7 is back to gui. you can run /etc/init.d/gdm stop  to close the gui
[23:23] <Tyrath> !fstab > Tyrath
[23:23] <Tundrayeti311> !enter | Calius
[23:24] <sudobash> is there a proper way to start the vino server
[23:24] <sudobash> ?
[23:24] <Flare183> erUSUL: Yeah, well I'm not going to try it that way, I am going to try to use my flash/jump drive to copy the files
[23:24] <sudobash> instead of xtightvncserver
[23:24] <nintendork87> zsquareplusc: I have the server kernel what would that be?
[23:24] <erUSUL> Flare183: i thought that you do not have the apropiate cable.... that woulb be hard to find these days
[23:24] <Cailus> ok stop rubbishes
[23:24]  * Tyrath wonders why he just gave ubottu a command to msg him when he could have simply messaged ubottu :/
[23:24] <zsquareplusc> sudobash: yes, use the system->preferences and enable screen sharing there
[23:24] <basedbox> baah ...
[23:24] <urthmover> erUSUL: well I don't get an error now when I sudo mount -a  but the filesystem is still read only when I attempt to create a file on it with vi
[23:24] <sudobash> remote desktop... will it start up each time after restart?
[23:24] <urthmover> erUSUL: thoughts?
[23:24] <faryshta> A women in Linux, this is the year of linux on the desktop.
[23:25] <S_SubZero> zsquareplusc: I did the gdm stop thing, but I did not get the expected result.  The screen went black, and I have a flashing cursor, but I can't type.
[23:25] <anders_> hahaha
[23:25] <Flare183> erUSUL: I have the cable, I just rather not do it that way
[23:25] <erUSUL> urthmover: paste the output of "cat /proc/mounts"
[23:25] <basedbox> :)
[23:25] <erUSUL> Flare183: ok; fair enough
[23:25] <zsquareplusc> nintendork87: sorry? you need to insert a kernel and initrd filename into menu..lst that actually exists in your /boot folder. i dont know what you have there
[23:25] <nintendork87> zsquareplusc: nvm, what version of the kernel should i use? the newest?
[23:25] <basedbox> Scheisse mit den drecks nutten duuuu
[23:25] <urthmover> erUSUL: ok  *pasting*
[23:25] <erUSUL> !de
[23:25] <basedbox> Ja hahahahhaha
[23:25] <nintendork87> zsquareplusc: or newest i have?
[23:26] <zsquareplusc> nintendork87: yes, lates. you can also make multiple entries in case you want to load one of the older (in case of troubles)
[23:26] <basedbox> i have a chicken under my sofa...
[23:26] <faryshta> !openjdk
[23:26] <basedbox> its gaggin
[23:26] <zsquareplusc> S_SubZero: with ctrl+alt+f1 (in text consoles only alt+f1) doesnt gove you a text screen where you can log in?
[23:27] <urthmover> erUSUL: http://pastebin.com/m4d2d44aa   (pasted cat /proc/mounts)
[23:27] <MiraiWarren0_0> Hey, did you know that if you removed all main menues from the gnome toolbars when you use your open menu shortcut it opens at your cursor?
[23:27] <nintendork87> ok thanks brb
[23:27] <basedbox> im a bot i can spell ur name
[23:27] <basedbox> B
[23:27] <basedbox> I
[23:27] <basedbox> T
[23:27] <FloodBot1> basedbox: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:27] <S_SubZero> hmm let me see
[23:27] <basedbox> C
[23:27] <basedbox> H
[23:27] <p4_> Well if open office goes rabbid we'll know why
[23:27] <erUSUL> urthmover: it got mounted read only dunno why /dev/sdb1 /media/ExternalHD hfsplus ro,nosuid,nodev,noexec,umask=22,uid=0,gid=0,nls=utf8 0 0
[23:28] <faryshta> !ot | basedbox
[23:28] <erUSUL> urthmover: note the ro
[23:28] <veryangryman> someone help me with the tilde problem
[23:28] <veryangryman> famous
[23:28] <S_SubZero> ah there it goes
[23:28] <urthmover> erUSUL: so do I have this configured correctly    it is just not working as expected?
[23:29] <urthmover> erUSUL: please continue this with Guiri he also has access to this system
[23:29] <Guiri> erUSUL: I believe this is the proc/mounts line you want right? dev/sdb1 /media/ExternalHD hfsplus ro,nosuid,nodev,noexec,umask=22,uid=0,gid=0,nls=utf8 0 0
[23:30] <Guiri> erUSUL: http://pastebin.com/m4d2d44aa
[23:30] <p4_> restart brb
[23:30] <erUSUL> Guiri: try sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdb1
[23:31] <Guiri> erUSUL: still read only when I tried to mv a file
[23:32] <Guiri> could it be a bug in the hfsplus driver? I had it working with an Ubuntu PPC machine a few months ago
[23:32] <erUSUL> Guiri: maybe... does "dmesg | tail" give any hints on what may be failing?
[23:33] <Guiri> it's all firewall inputs from awhile ago. Hmm..
[23:33] <JmCourir> is there a good media player like Windows Media player on Ubuntu ?
[23:34] <erUSUL> so nothing new :(
[23:34] <LjL> JmCourir: you want a terrible media player? i think there are a few :>
[23:34] <LjL> !players | JmCourir
[23:34] <LjL> !goot > JmCourir    (JmCourir, see the private message from ubottu)
[23:34] <Guiri> Yeah I'm trying to think urth and I have double checked the fstab syntax too.
[23:34] <erUSUL> Guiri: i dunno why it is not possible to mount it rw ...
[23:35] <JmCourir> LjL: wich mp3 player is the fastest one to search for a title ?
[23:35] <Joker_-_> My hard drive led is constantly flashing in Intrepid Ibex, anyone experienced this and knows why?
[23:35] <Guiri> erUSUL: currently no open bugs either.
[23:36] <LjL> JmCourir, eh, i haven't benchmarked them... but these days, they mostly all come with a search box, and they use a database so they're fast
[23:36] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, it still doesnt work, i think its the wrong hard drive number. can i change the hd1,0 to /dev/sdb1?
[23:36] <JmCourir> Ljl: thanks
[23:36] <Guiri> other than fdisk -l what other commands will give me disk info erUSUL
[23:36] <erUSUL> Guiri: try mounting it from command line...→ sudo umount /dev/sdb1 && sudo mount -t hfsplus -o rw,exec,auto,users /dev/sdb1 /media/ExternalHD
[23:36] <LjL> JmCourir: see #ubuntu-bots for the most popular ones
[23:36] <jabagawee> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ when i boot from that, what will i get on screen? an alternative install? i a livecd environment?
[23:36] <erUSUL> Guiri: what type of info? disk layout?
[23:36] <Guiri> yeah
[23:37] <Beererde> hi. i upgraded my ubuntu to 8.10 but now nothing works, e.g. gdm and x. i get lots of error messages like "could not write xxx, read only fs". and my other hdds seem to be mounted but the mountpoint is empty..
[23:37] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: no, in that file it needs to be the hd numbering. but there is a command that lists the sd->hhd name map
[23:37] <evilGUI> g
[23:37] <mrkris> setup a debian server, installed apache/mysql and mailx, unfortunately, mailx won't deliver outbound -- how do i enable that?
[23:37] <mrkris> err, setup an ubuntu server
[23:37] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, any ideas to fix it?
[23:38] <erUSUL> Guiri: well you can use other partition editors like parted or cfdisk (both interactive)
[23:38] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: if you are at the grub menu you can type "c" to get a command line
[23:38] <NinjaElf> anyone know how to create a mouse theme?
[23:38] <Guiri> erUSUL: I'm tempted to just put the contents on another disk so I can reformat it as ext3
[23:38] <mrkris> I only want to send mail from the system, google hosts my main mail
[23:38] <Guiri> erUSUL: would it make a difference if the mount point was under /mnt? it shouldn't right?
[23:38] <JmCourir> ljl: ok nice .. thanks a lot.. very nice tool the ubuntu-bots
[23:38] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc: i can still boot from LILO but know why i get Error 15: File not found?
[23:39] <NoIdeaMan> How delete Ubuntu?
[23:39] <erUSUL> Guiri: no; no difference at all
[23:39] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: there you could explore which disks are there and try to "cat (hd1,0)/boot/menu/lst" and try different disks. TAB complete should work
[23:39] <NoIdeaMan> Can't get internet to work so no use.
[23:39] <erUSUL> Guiri: sudo parted /dev/sdb print
[23:39] <NoIdeaMan> How delete Ubuntu?
[23:39] <NoIdeaMan> Can't get internet to work so no use.
[23:39] <daxroc1> Evening all
[23:39] <carpii> just reformat
[23:39] <LjL> NoIdeaMan: just format the partition.
[23:39] <Guiri> erUSUL: output seems fine. I'll pastebin.
[23:39] <nintendork32> NiIdeaMan: just repartition it
[23:40] <NoIdeaMan> how?
[23:40] <erUSUL> NoIdeaMan: just reformat the partition you used and restore thwe windows boot manager
[23:40] <daxroc1> Does any one know where nm-applet sets the device node for mobile-internet devices ?
[23:40] <carpii> whatever operating system youre planning to install next will take care of it usually
[23:40] <Beererde> hi. i upgraded my ubuntu to 8.10 but now nothing works, e.g. gdm and x. i get lots of error messages like "could not write xxx, read only fs". and my other hdds seem to be mounted but the mountpoint is empty..
[23:40] <LjL> NoIdeaMan: with any partitioning tool. then if you're using GRUB to boot, you'll have to restore the Windows MBR - can be done with a Windows CD
[23:40] <Guiri> erUSUL: http://pastebin.com/d3a92dafd
[23:40] <LjL> NoIdeaMan: but for details on that, better luck asking in ##windows
[23:40] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc: i can still boot from LILO but know why i get Error 15: File not found?
[23:40] <Guiri> should the partition table be msdos if it's an hfs system?
[23:40] <NoIdeaMan> ah...
[23:40] <LjL> !gparted > NoIdeaMan    (NoIdeaMan, see the private message from ubottu) this is such a partitioning tool
[23:41] <LjL> meh.
[23:41] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: why can you still boot from lilo? i thought it loads grub now?
[23:41] <NoIdeaMan> didnt get it
[23:41] <jabagawee> anyone have any idea how pxe works?
[23:41] <mrkris> Whats the proper way to setup outgoing mail in 8.10 ?
[23:41] <jabagawee> !gparted > NoIdeaMan
[23:41] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, i use the BIOs boot manager to boot sdb
[23:41] <erUSUL> LjL: what wil ubottu remember? XD
[23:41] <JRock201> whats up all
[23:41] <LjL> erUSUL: everything before "is", i'm afraid. will be a nuisance to delete, too.
[23:42] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: ah ok. that's fine then :-)
[23:42] <Soma_> guys I'm trying to delete a series of files with a specific string in their name
[23:42] <AzMoo> imachine: cool, thanks.
[23:42] <erUSUL> Guiri: yes output is ok... rwally dunno why it does not mount rw
[23:42] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, how can i use GRUB to boot it though?
[23:42] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: so still the wrong file name. as you pointed out it could be the hd1,0 spec that is wrong
[23:42] <LjL> Soma_: "man rename"
[23:42] <erland> Hi all, have tried asking this in #kubuntu with no response. Trying to install KDE in Ubuntu 8.10 & getting a conflict with displayconfig-gtk and guidance-backends - I don't want to lose those packages, so what can I do? Have tried in the forums too, with no success: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=985562
[23:42] <erUSUL> LjL: and the factoid will be everything before the is XXDD
[23:42] <daxroc1> Has any one tried using a bluetooth rfcomm bound device with the mobile internet feature on intrepid ?
[23:42] <LjL> Soma_: uh, what did i just say.. i'm becoming a machine. no.
[23:42] <dr_willis> Soma_,  use of the 'find' command may also be helpfull..
[23:42] <NoIdeaMan> wow
[23:42] <Guiri> erUSUL: I'll be back in 10. Thanks for the help. Hopefully we can pickup and troubleshoot then.
[23:42] <Soma_> how do I delete a series of files with a string in their name, as locate "string" | rm -i
[23:42] <LjL> Soma_: what are the files named like?
[23:42] <Soma_> that command doesn't work
[23:43] <erUSUL> Guiri: ok; good luck
[23:43] <NoIdeaMan> ill just try to get wireless working lol
[23:43] <jabagawee> Soma_, use 'find'
[23:43] <Beererde> hi. i upgraded my ubuntu to 8.10 but now nothing works, e.g. gdm and x. i get lots of error messages like "could not write xxx, read only fs". and my other hdds seem to be mounted but the mountpoint is empty..
[23:43] <LjL> Soma_: well if they're all in the same directory, of course just rm with wildcards will work - but i guess they aren't?
[23:43] <snikker> when i try to make a .deb package, i've got this warning: "dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${shlibs:Depends}" and in "${misc:Depends}", can you help me?
[23:43] <nintendork32> zsquareplusc, what else could it be except hd1,0?
[23:43] <erUSUL> snikker: #ubuntu-motu may be a better place to ask about it
[23:43] <kevin_> hi?
[23:43] <jabagawee> Soma_, basically, "find -iname "search regex" -del", i believe
[23:43] <jabagawee> Soma_, lemme check
[23:44] <Soma_> LjL rm tells me there is a missing operand
[23:44] <Adam24> how do I force quit a running program in Intrepid Ibex?
[23:44] <kevin_> can some1 help me?
[23:44] <LjL> jabagawee: "-delete" is the option (maybe "-del" will work as a shortcut, but i don't know)
[23:44] <snikker> erUSUL: ok thanks
[23:44] <LjL> Soma_: of course, because you can't pipe stuff like that...
[23:44] <Beererde> does anyone know why it always says "read only fs"?
[23:44] <FreshPrince> #europa l
[23:44] <LjL> Soma_: but if they're in the same directory, you can just do   rm *string*
[23:44] <zsquareplusc> nintendork32: hm. well i'd try the grub console at boot. you can explore your disks and hds there
[23:44] <Soma_> why not LjL
[23:44] <LjL> (careful!)
[23:44] <NoIdeaMan> Anyone have BUFFALO Wireless-G USB 2.0 Keychain Adapter with Auto Installation?
[23:44] <daxroc1> Adam killall app name
[23:44] <kevin_> does any1 know how to get kdenlive?
[23:44] <ghindo> Hi, I'm getting some weird error on boot.  It says "Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 0"  Does anybody know what's happening here?
[23:44] <jabagawee> Beererde, cuz its a read only filesystem?
[23:44] <erUSUL> Beererde: becouse the file system is indeed mounted read only ??
[23:44] <Adam24> daxroc1: Thanks!
[23:44] <Beererde> erUSUL: and why? i upgraded to 8.10
[23:45] <Soma_> LjL the file names are returned in full
[23:45] <JRock201> Adam24 install a tool called htop it's cli.. but very useful for killing processes
[23:45] <NoIdeaMan> Anyone have BUFFALO Wireless-G USB 2.0 Keychain Adapter with Auto Installation?.
[23:45] <jin> is there any performance difference when you install Ubuntu on the third partition instead of the first partition?
[23:45] <LjL> Soma_: because a pipe ("|") links the *standard output* of the first command with the *standard input* of the second command. it doesn't link it with the *arguments* of the commands. and "rm" takes no standard input.
[23:45] <erUSUL> Beererde: it is the whole ubuntu partition??
[23:45] <dr_willis> jin,  shouldent be..
[23:45] <daxroc1> or use top
[23:45] <Beererde> it for ex. says "/etc/mtab: read only fs"
[23:45] <kevin_> any1?
[23:45] <FreshPrince> sry
[23:45] <NoIdeaMan> Anyone have BUFFALO Wireless-G USB 2.0 Keychain Adapter with Auto Installation?.
[23:45] <dr_willis> jin,  other then that different parts of the hd may have slightly different read/write speeds due to the spinning speeds.. but thats not much.
[23:45] <Beererde> did theyy change something in fstab?
[23:45] <jin> dr_willis, what fs is faster than ext3/2?
[23:45] <kevin_> any1 know how to get kdenlive?
[23:45] <norty> hello i just installed and upgraded to ubuntu 7.04 and im trying to upgrade to 7.10 but when i go to update manager the button to upgrade to 7.10 isn't there even after i click the "check" button, how do I upgrade to 7.10 now?
[23:45] <Soma_> jin jfs I hear
[23:46] <jin> Soma_, is jfs in Intrepid?
[23:46] <LjL> !info kdenlive | kevin_
[23:46] <LjL> !software > kevin_    (kevin_, see the private message from ubottu)
[23:46] <Beererde> erUSUL: yes, / is mounted as read only since the update
[23:46] <jin> or supported?
[23:46] <erUSUL> Beererde: well linux (ubuntu too) mounts the root partiton read only if it encounters serious errors on the filesystem
[23:46] <mrNITRO> preved medved
[23:46] <dr_willis> jin,  no idea.. I dont worry about  what would be most likely minimal speed differances for my ussage pattern
[23:46] <erland> no one wants to touch this do they! Can anyone help?
[23:46] <Beererde> erUSUL: where can i check for that? /var/log/XX? i did not see such a message i believe
[23:46] <erUSUL> Beererde: so... boot into a liveCD and check the filesystem with fsck (gparted can be used for that)
[23:46] <erland> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=985562
[23:46] <Soma_> jin most likely, it's just a pain in the ass to configure, I know people who have done it but they're more the gentoo type
[23:46] <mrNITRO> my radeon HD3200 doesn't work with ati/amd driver
[23:47] <mrNITRO> äàëáà¸áû
[23:47] <erUSUL> Beererde: yeah check the logs for any clue
[23:47] <imachine> okay, gotta run. cheers.
[23:47] <erUSUL> Beererde: /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog
[23:47] <Beererde> erUSUL: ok
[23:47] <mrNITRO> äàëáà¸áû äàéòå ìíå ðåàëüí äðîâà!!!11
[23:47] <jabagawee> mrNITRO, more explanation, please?
[23:47] <jabagawee> !spam | mrNITRO
[23:47] <Beererde> erUSUL: it just says "mounted XFS fs" and nothing more
[23:47] <LjL> !ru | mrNITRO
[23:48] <LjL> jabagawee: that was kind of...
[23:48] <Beererde> erUSUL: are there special boot options to the new kernel? i did not auto upgrade menu.lst
[23:48] <jabagawee> LjL, whoops, i only saw random text
[23:48] <erUSUL> Beererde: no that i know of
[23:48] <erland> please help! Can I install KDE in 8.10 without losing display-config? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=985562
[23:48] <jabagawee> LjL, like only vowels with markings
[23:48] <NinjaElf> anyone know how to create a mouse theme?
[23:48] <norty> hello i just installed and upgraded to ubuntu 7.04 and im trying to upgrade to 7.10 but when i go to update manager the button to upgrade to 7.10 isn't there even after i click the "check" button, how do I upgrade to 7.10 now?
[23:48] <erUSUL> !upgrade | norty
[23:48] <LjL> jabagawee: it's russian encoded with the KOI-8 encoding. you'll see that if you're using UTF-8
[23:48] <NoIdeaMan> Anyone have BUFFALO Wireless-G USB 2.0 Keychain Adapter with Auto Installation?.
[23:49] <dr_willis> erland,  if it removes it.. just reinstall it.. i had no issues installing kde4 on my ubuntu machines..  when in doubt update/upgrade/try isntalling it again
[23:49] <ghindo> !flood | dr_willis
[23:49] <LjL> ghindo: ?
[23:49] <Beererde> norty: don't do it.. breaks everything ...
[23:49] <norty> ?
[23:49] <NoIdeaMan> Anyone have BUFFALO Wireless-G USB 2.0 Keychain Adapter with Auto Installation?.
[23:49] <ghindo> LjL:  Sorry, that wasn't what I was trying to do.  What's the message that says stop repeating your question?
[23:49] <kornejo> can some 1 help me plz
[23:49] <LjL> ghindo: !repeat
[23:49] <kevin_> i installed kdenlive and i couldnt find it anywhere can some1 help me? =w=
[23:50] <erland> dr_willis - but if it conflicts won't something die if I re-install it?
[23:50] <LjL> ghindo: but i don't think dr_willis is overly repeating any question...
[23:50] <ghindo> LjL:  And I directed it at the wrong person, too.  :/  Thanks.
[23:50] <AnythingJe> What folder is the list of programs you can install kept?  I'm trying to figure out all of the programs that have scummvm as a dependency
[23:50] <kornejo> i got ccsm but i cant change fire effect on windows cose i just dont c it
[23:50] <LjL> kevin_: if it's not in the Applications menu, it will probably be at the next reboot. meanwhile, you can just try hitting Alt+F2 and typing "kdenlive"
[23:51] <NoIdeaMan> Anyone have BUFFALO Wireless-G USB 2.0 Keychain Adapter with Auto Installation?.
[23:51] <LjL> AnythingJe: it's not a folder, it's a custom database
[23:51] <LjL> AnythingJe: but you can do that by doing "apt-cache rdepends scummvm"
[23:51] <toastedmilk> I changed the path of where my ipod will mount and now nautilis can't mount the ipod.  I have the 4G nano and I need to finish this command: mount -t (type)? (device)? /media/disk/
[23:51] <erUSUL> NoIdeaMan: it is pci or usb? what chip does it uuses?
[23:51] <fosco_> AnythingJe: there is no "available programs" folder, it is in the internal apt-get database
[23:51] <NoIdeaMan> USB
[23:51] <kevin_> didnt work
[23:51] <pooger> hello
[23:52] <LjL> kevin_: then try opening a terminal and typing: dpkg -L kdenlive | grep bin
[23:52] <AnythingJe> ooo, nice, thanks LjL.  Showed a few from Universe, so that was what I was looking for
[23:52] <kornejo> can some one help me plz
[23:52] <toastedmilk> I changed the path of where my ipod will mount and now nautilis can't mount the ipod.  I have the 4G nano and I need to finish this command: mount -t (type)? (device)? /media/disk/
[23:52] <kevin_> /usr/bin
[23:52] <kevin_> /usr/bin/kdenlive
[23:52] <kevin_> /usr/bin/kdenlive_renderer
[23:52] <cfs> Anyone had any luck installing ATI's catalyst 8.11 drivers on Intrepid?
[23:52] <kornejo> i need help on compiz config
[23:52] <kevin_> thats what it says
[23:52] <LjL> kevin_: then now try typing "kdenlive" in the same terminal.
[23:53] <ghindo> Hi, I'm getting some weird error on boot.  It says "Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 0"  Does anybody know what's happening here?
[23:53] <cfs> getting 'symbol miZeroLineScreenIndex not found in dev_fglrx.so' messages from xorg
[23:53] <pooger> cfs: how do you tell what version drivers you have?
[23:53] <erUSUL> NoIdeaMan: please paste the output of "sudo lsusb" on a pastebin
[23:53] <fosco_> toastedmilk: -t vfat and you can see the devide with sudo -l once ipod is attached
[23:53] <cfs> pooger, because I downloaded 8.11 drivers
[23:53] <Adam24> JRock201:  It worked!
[23:53] <kevin_> thanls LjL
[23:53] <dr_willis> erland,  i imagine its just a misstake/confusion in the packages..  i installed kde4 and had no such conflicts
[23:53] <kevin_> oh never mind
[23:53] <kevin_> it crashed
[23:53] <NoIdeaMan> erUSUL what is that and how do i find it?
[23:54] <kevin_> ._.
[23:54] <erUSUL> !paste | NoIdeaMan
[23:54] <pooger> anyone know why when I try and swith users I get a blank screen and it hangs?
[23:54] <NoIdeaMan> I mean what is sudo lsusb
[23:54] <erUSUL> NoIdeaMan: lsusb is a command to enter in terminal
[23:55] <erUSUL> !terminal | NoIdeaMan
[23:55] <erland> dr_willis: was that with 8.10? I'll give it a go, thanks.
[23:55] <joeb3_> pooger, hit the spacebar on that black screen
[23:55] <toastedmilk> fosco_, that's not mounting the drive in the folder I want to
[23:55] <pooger> the spacebar? ok, ill give it a go
[23:55] <toastedmilk> and the ipod is already connected
[23:55] <NoIdeaMan> idk on windows atm as no iternet on Ubuntu
[23:55] <fosco_> toastedmilk: nope, fdisk -l will show the device, mount -t... will mount it
[23:56] <edvard> hello?
[23:56] <toastedmilk> fosco_,  mount -t (type)? (device)? /media/disk/
[23:56] <toastedmilk> fosco_, I don't know the type or device name for my ipod
[23:56] <fosco_> toastedmilk: i've told you what to do
[23:56] <dr_willis> toastedmilk,  sudo fdisk -l will show it.
[23:56] <fosco_> toastedmilk: -t vfat and you can see the devide with sudo -l once ipod is attached
[23:56] <edvard> I have a problem with Office 2007 under Crossover Office that I cant seems to get sorted out (been spending weeks trying to fix it).. anyone able to help me out a bit?
[23:57] <edvard> seem*
[23:57] <toastedmilk> fosco_, Disk /dev/sda: 320.0 GB, 320072933376 bytes
[23:57] <toastedmilk> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
[23:57] <toastedmilk> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[23:57] <toastedmilk> Disk identifier: 0x000d3cf4
[23:57] <toastedmilk>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[23:57] <toastedmilk> /dev/sda1   *           1       38161   306528201   83  Linux
[23:57] <FloodBot1> toastedmilk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:57] <fosco_> do not paste here
[23:57] <edvard> anyone?
[23:57] <kevin_> any1 know how to fix crashes?
[23:58] <edvard> Having some troubles with performance with Crossover when using the Nvidia hardware drivers that come with Ubuntu 8.10. I have tried using both versions, but same result.
[23:58] <toastedmilk> fosco_, That doesn't tell me anything
[23:58] <edvard> When running Office 2007, the interface is really laggy when the hardware drivers are installed, and just wondering if anyone have any ideas?
[23:58] <ekontsevoy> I added 2nd network card to a Ubuntu server, but I don't see eth1 anywhere... How do I "rescan" networking hardware from the command line?
[23:58] <dr_willis> edvard,  i would say check the crossover office forums, and the #wine channel/forums
[23:58] <ekontsevoy> I do see 2nd card in lspci, but I don't have eth1
[23:59] <edvard> yeah, I have searched everywhere.. cant find any answers
[23:59] <NoIdeaMan> Anyone have BUFFALO Wireless-G USB 2.0 Keychain Adapter with Auto Installation?
[23:59] <edvard> I even posted on the Crossover Forums, but didnt get a reply
[23:59] <fosco_> toastedmilk: so, that's a problem :) what don't you understand?
[23:59] <norty> hello i just installed and upgraded to ubuntu 7.04 and im trying to upgrade to 7.10 but when i go to update manager the button to upgrade to 7.10 isn't there even after i click the "check" button, how do I upgrade to 7.10 now?
[23:59] <MrCollins> trying to install ubuntu here, and I can not get my ntfs partition re-sized in the installer, this is from Ubuntu 8.10 that I just recieved in the mail. How can I re-size the partition in order for: A: XP will still have a few gigs of free space B: I can have some space for Ubuntu
[23:59] <imachine> hey
[23:59] <imachine> in 8.10
[23:59] <ghindo> !upgrade | norty
[23:59] <mon^rch> I cant access my usb devices in virtualbox... any ideas?
[23:59] <imachine> is it possible to have the new quit/change user menu to not modify itself whenever I launch pidgin?