[00:00] now to see if it "holds" on re-login.... [00:00] brb [00:01] did it work? [00:01] no [00:01] :( [00:02] did not save on exit [00:02] but...it will do in a pinch [00:02] hehe ok [00:03] knome maybe u know of a way to manually triger that dialog which asks to enter password to unlock keyring? [00:04] anorexic, not really anything other than using the keyring :) [00:04] anorexic, you want it to prompt you? or NOT to prompt you? [00:04] to promt [00:04] anybody know what a laptop mousepad would be working in a Command Line Install, once Xorg and Openbox get loaded? [00:04] I did "not promting" but I need of a way to trigger it, so that keyring would be unlocked [00:05] bitmouse, is your stuff NOT working in the gui? [00:06] vidd: if you want to call openbox a gui [00:06] also is is there a difference between apt-get and aptitude? [00:06] yes there is [00:06] what is the difference? [00:06] bitmouse, you need hal installed for the keyboard and mouse to work with xorg since II [00:06] bitmouse, aptitude is a text-based frontend for apt-get [00:07] vidd: cool, apt-get hal be enough, somebody else recommended gpm I think [00:07] bitmouse, for your mouse and keyboard to work: sudo apt-get install hal [00:08] roger, surprised that the installer didn't install that one on the system, i think it did it auto on this one [00:08] bitmouse, did you install cli-only and add openbox and xorg manually? [00:10] vidd: yeah, on both [00:11] bitmouse, is one 8.10 and one an older version? [00:11] (possibly older then upgraded to 8.10) [00:13] hmm, I think I just put 8.10 on both, though to be honest, I'm not sure, though i think I used the same install CD, by the way, is HAL minimal? cause I want to keep this thing crisp [00:13] vidd: and why not gpm? [00:14] bitmouse, because i have no idea what gpm is, and i know that hal fixed that for me [00:14] =] [00:14] lol, cool [00:14] yay it worked [00:14] : ) [00:17] Long Distance Hug!!!;-) [00:22] bitmouse, =] [00:27] hey....anyone want to start seeding the 8.04 iso's? [00:28] isn't they seeded anywhere? [00:28] *aren't [00:28] apparently not [00:29] you must be joking? [00:29] http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/hardy/release/desktop/ ? [00:29] a-ha, permission problems [00:29] a-ha, not [00:30] * vidd is not the one trying to get it [00:30] let me see [00:30] looks like those torrents work [00:30] knome, Mooc1 is the one who needs it [00:30] vidd didn't mean to freak you out [00:30] Mooc1, http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/hardy/release/desktop/ [00:30] Mooc1, no problem [00:31] Mooc1, which version you need? [00:31] * vidd will throw the iso up on his torrentflux server [00:32] well this is my problem which really is not a problem I have a pctel modem and I just need to find a version that will work with the updated driver [00:32] Mooc1, newer is usualle better with hardware support.. [00:32] *e=y [00:32] Mooc1, which version you have now? [00:33] 6.06 dapper drake [00:33] Mooc1, ! [00:33] xubuntu [00:34] Mooc1, that's over 2 years old [00:34] Mooc1, have you tried to upgrade via update manager? [00:34] yeah U know I have like 329 updates [00:34] * vidd recommends that you do so via tty with the server upgrade method [00:34] vidd, that's also quite harsh :> [00:34] why the sever upgrade [00:35] I do need to upgrade though [00:35] there is a fundamental issue with the update manager somewhere between DD and HH [00:35] really [00:36] what does it do crash or not download? [00:36] so if you use the server update method, you *shouldnt* end up with a broken system [00:37] Well how do I do the server method [00:37] but...b4 you try any upgrade method, you need to max out your sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade first [00:38] !upgrade [00:38] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes [00:38] Mooc1, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes#From%207.10%20or%206.06%20LTS%20to%208.04%20LTS [00:39] brb [00:42] so I need to upgrade to what version? [00:42] 8.04 is the only "supported" upgrade method [00:42] ok [00:42] once there, you can then upgrade to 8.10 [00:43] btw....is your system set up with a seperate partition for /home? [00:44] no I'm running xubuntu on my dino box [00:44] (i probably asked this last time too...but dont remember the answer [00:44] brb vidd phone call [00:46] * vidd always sets up a seperate /home (and seperate /var) partition so that a "fresh" install can be done from any version to any version without worrying about "upgrade issues" [00:46] =] [00:49] meh [00:49] =\ [00:49] this kvm installation is taking ages [00:49] there can't be everything right in there [00:50] something wrong with planning ahead for disaster recovery? [00:50] even if i followed the howtos [00:50] oh...different subject =] [00:50] doesn't really matter even if the installation failed [00:53] who had the question about the gnomekeyring? [00:53] vidd, anorexic [00:54] anorexic, you there? [00:54] * vidd finds the answer and anorexic is nowhere to be found =\ [00:55] wb djbushdio [00:55] vidd, we don't know why it hurts [00:57] back to criticize your punctuation... [00:58] wait...are you the one i black-listed on my work machine? =] [00:58] ok so vidd upgrade to 8.04 [00:58] oh, thats mean... [00:58] djbushdio, "that's" [00:58] ouch [00:58] * vidd imports his work settings.... [00:58] where'd he go? [00:58] lol [00:59] jk djbushdio [00:59] * vidd raely blacklists anyone [00:59] *rarely [01:00] (and rarely hits all the keys he wants) [01:00] ... [01:00] vidd so I need to upgrade to 8.04 then what [01:00] djbushdio is soon going to be djobamadio? [01:00] its these fingers (and half-pot of coffee in the keyboard) [01:00] i like obama... [01:01] Mooc1, that is the best method [01:01] * vidd is SHOCKED djbushdio [01:01] darn conservatives... I'm and extreme moderate. Oh yeah [01:01] *an [01:02] moderate WHAT? [01:02] you heard me [01:02] even moderate socialists are evil! [01:02] ... not what i meant... [01:02] =] [01:02] djbushdio, i didn't, i read the words you typed (apparently) [01:03] * vidd needs to go down to Walmart and buy a clue [01:03] okay, so everybody here has issues grammatically, now lets stop acting like kids and see if anybody actually needs help [01:03] *let's [01:04] * knome achoos loudly and wakes up all the elderlies in the building [01:04] * vidd is shocked TheSheep doesnt point out that is probably close to the "offtopic" channel! [01:04] i was actually waiting for the same comment :] [01:05] (maybe he(?) dont know what Walmart is) [01:05] same, which is why i TYPED that we need to shut up [01:05] why do we need to shut up? we're just typing and not making any noise [01:05] djbushdio, why not just join us there? [01:06] (off topic...not walmart) [01:06] =] [01:06] what is the channel name? [01:06] specifically [01:06] #xubuntu-offtopic [01:12] do not mention walmart I work there :-[ [01:12] i have never visited a walmart store. [01:12] Your not missing anything [01:14] knomw and vidd all I have to do is download 8.04 iso right to upgrade [01:14] Mooc1, you don't need to D/L the iso if you upgrade [01:14] !upgrade [01:14] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes [01:14] Mooc1, just go to terminal and typoe "update-manager" [01:15] ah ok let me bookmakr the link [01:15] ok let me do that hold on [01:15] elvis has left the building, sry knome [01:15] ;]] [01:16] anorexic, http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/06/clearing-or-resetting-the-gnome-keyring/ [01:16] anorexic, uhhuh? :) [01:16] knome u vere trieng to wake the elders in the building [01:16] so they al left together with elvis [01:16] nah [01:16] vidd thanks [01:16] elvis has died already [01:17] twice if you believe the rumors [01:17] no he went home [01:17] if you believe men in black [01:17] ;]] [01:17] i don't [01:17] i believe in completely different things [01:17] u r doomed then [01:17] how do I change to be root [01:17] use sudo [01:18] sudo refresh my memory [01:18] its like sam says [01:18] gotcha [01:18] sudo what [01:19] sudo command [01:19] "super user do" [01:19] liko sudo rm - rf /* [01:19] confused what else do I type sudo then what [01:20] what do you want to do with root? [01:20] Mooc1, sudo [the command you want to run as root] [01:20] so what sudo root [01:20] Mooc1, no.... [01:21] if you log in as root u will type "bitchx" and you will start program as root [01:21] for that you would "sudo su" (but it is STRONGLY recommended AGAINST [01:21] if you are an user, and type "bitchx" you will start program as user [01:21] if you are and user and type "sudo bitchx" you will start program as root [01:21] ok [01:22] so I type sudo bitchx [01:23] Mooc1, have you tried windows? :) [01:23] I dont think u are ready for linux [01:23] even for ubuntu [01:23] no I just don't remember the command [01:24] I'm trying the command vidd gave me [01:25] Mooc1, the command was "update-manager" and its run as a user [01:25] otherwise i would say "sudo[command]" [01:25] I typed it and ask me to be root [01:26] strange.... then type "gksu update-manager" [01:26] hang on getting something let me cut and paste [01:27] does anybody have a good media manager for an mp3 player? [01:28] I'm trying to use amarok, but it isn't detecting some of my songs === djbushdio is now known as djbushido [01:28] usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/apt/__init__.py:17: FutureWarning: apt API not stable yet [01:28] Mooc1, ah...ok [01:28] test [01:29] ok [01:29] djbushido, ask #amarok [01:29] what does that mean vidd [01:30] Mooc1, probably nothing you should be worried of :) [01:30] Mooc1, "sudo apt-get install update-manager-core" [01:30] ok hang on [01:32] ok done [01:33] Mooc1, now "gksu update-manager" [01:35] not it displayed the update manager [01:36] usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/apt/__init__.py:17: FutureWarning: apt API not stable yet [01:36] .... [01:36] http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading-8.04 [01:38] what about xubuntu or does that matter [01:38] dont matter [01:39] *don't (hehe) [01:39] ok so now its a matter of uprading [01:39] dunt [01:40] :-P [01:41] vidd so just upgrade and I'm done then the server method [01:43] vidd u there [01:43] Mooc1, just upgrade [01:43] does anybody have a recommendation for a media manager? Amarok seems broken, rhythmbox can't manage external devices... [01:44] djbushido, ask #amarok... [01:44] did, nobody is responding... [01:44] ok gotcha sorry my comp was doing something funny [01:44] djbushido, wait for a while or a couple whiles. P [01:44] :P [01:44] let me bookmark this link [01:46] I probably asked like a billion questions didn't mean just trying to get this dust box to act right [01:46] oh, just had to reload amarok... wow i feel stupid [01:46] and don't feel like you are asking a lot of questions, trust me, i have you beat... [01:47] really well I still feel like a house fly at times [01:48] its ok, i feel like that posting in ubuntu forums... [01:48] * knome slaps Mooc1 with a flyswatter [01:48] thats mean... [01:48] ouch [01:48] by the way, how do you say that with your name on the right? [01:48] huh [01:49] djbushido, /me does things [01:49] "*|knome slaps Mooc1 with a flyswatter" not "knome|slaps Mooc1 with a flyswatter" [01:49] * djbushido feels stupid [01:49] oh [01:49] hehehe [01:50] see, you aren't the housefly... [01:50] i got you beat by a long shot... [01:50] night everybody. [01:50] knome keep those seeds up so I can get ubuntu 8.04 or xubuntu 8.04 [01:50] i will probably be back tomorrow. [01:50] get 8.10 - thats what i use [01:50] me too gotta go [01:51] Mooc1, i haven't seeded them, but i'm sure somebody will [01:51] I plan to [01:51] oh ok [01:51] -> [01:51] one day somebody will [01:51] :-P [01:51] knome, you missed my summarry of what is to come! [01:52] i missed it too... wait, what did i miss? [01:52] djbushido, you never came to my channel [01:54] well I better go got too much stuff to do tomorrow [01:55] hope someone will seed the xubuntu 8.04 or ubuntu [01:55] i might have my old 8.04 alternate cd lying around, see me later [01:56] oh ok cool I need it please help me out [01:56] got to leave in like 5 minutes, i should have time tomorrow though [01:57] thats cool for me see you then [01:58] later knome vidd djbushido [01:58] Hello [01:58] whaddup [01:59] Need to know the minimum requirements for Xubuntu 8.10 [02:00] recommended ram=198 [02:00] or something like that, plus 1GB install space [02:00] Uhu [02:00] VGA? [02:00] well that disqualifies [02:00] me [02:00] Around 32 Mb maybe? [02:00] uh... [02:01] pretty sure the install cd needs ~92 mb [02:01] I have less than that [02:01] 92 Mb RAM or VGA? [02:01] not sure [02:02] check www.xubuntu.org [02:02] I cannot fin it inside, my friend [02:02] where did vidd go did he leave [02:02] got to go, bye [02:02] So, tell me about your machine [02:02] Ok, bye [02:03] Mooc1, no...im still around [02:03] oh ok I though you left thanks for the support and the links this helps me a lot [02:04] * vidd was talking world politics in his private channel [02:04] oh don't get me started in that subject [02:06] Bye, go to sleep [03:13] dude what happen to vidd [03:15] knome did vidd split [03:15] its me mooc1 [03:21] knome [03:22] the kernel where did vidd go [03:23] if anybody will ask why airodump does not capture any packets if I'm not connected to any wireless network with atheros chipset. just tell them to dusable wireless (rmb on the network icon) and then airmon will enable monitor mode correctly [03:23] god damn 2 days of research for simple shit [03:23] hate linux :( [03:24] anorexic: yes, it can be trying 4 sure [03:28] knome [03:40] im on a live cd and have attached a hard drive with a pata to usb cable, it mounts but i cannot access some files(permissions), i know user name/pass, how would i gain access? i want my firefox bookmarks/etc [03:51] im on a live cd and have attached a hard drive with a pata to usb cable, it mounts but i cannot access some files(files like .mozzilla), i know the user/pass, how would i gain access? i want my firefox bookmarks/etc [03:54] helpplz: can you access any files? [03:55] most, just a couple have x's on them, permission issue i geuss. [03:55] and you're accessing these via the livecd? [03:56] ya im on a laptop with livecd [03:56] what is the mount point of the hard drive that has the files? [03:57] /dev/sdb [03:57] its connected via usb [03:58] err its /media/disk/ [03:58] i wanna transfer those files to another usb hd [03:58] helpplz: eff'n take root [03:58] ok. thanks. so what is the full path to the files you want? [03:59] livecd isnt root? [03:59] you don't know? [04:00] i thought it was [04:01] it will say in the prompt from a terminal, can you open a terminal [04:01] do you have any system besides the live cd to perform the transfer with? [04:01] nope its geust i geuss i says ubuntu [04:01] it* [04:02] ill transfer to another usb pen drive [04:02] ok nm i did sudo thunar ty [04:03] from the terminal, can you just type sudo cp /path/to/original/files /path/to/new/location [04:04] unless they're directories [04:07] helpplz: do you have an alt cd? [04:08] nope xubuntu 8.10 386 [04:09] get one, this task would be trivial in a recovery shell. its single user mode [04:09] actually, the netboot cd should work too. Its a lighter dl as well [04:11] i was thinking some extra security was added to ubuntu lol so it wouldnt be so easy to read personal files [04:11] if you have physical access to a box, all bets are off [04:12] lvm i guess does that [04:12] Hi there, has someone tried the beta of XFCE? [04:12] no encryption would [04:17] Where do I find minicom? [04:20] !minicom [04:20] Sorry, I don't know anything about minicom [04:20] someone here have tried fuzzy of hooper? [04:20] ubottu: you suck [04:20] Sorry, I don't know anything about you suck [04:20] its in apt [04:20] scribawf: minicom is in apt [04:21] faryshta: i haven't really tried them yet, no [04:22] faryshta: do you have a question about the xfce 4.6 betas? [04:23] j1mc, yeah, I wanna know if it is safe to upgrade. [04:23] faryshta: no, it's not safe to upgrade to 4.6 yet [04:23] and i'm not just saying that to say that - it's really just not ready yet [04:24] Well I understand the difference among beta and official release. I just want to know if it is stable enough to be used. I know about bug reports and that. [04:26] faryshta: ok . . . i have only used it briefly in a virtual machine . . . it had rough edges, and wasn't production ready, but if that's ok w/ you . . . then i suppose you could try. bug reports would be welcome, i'm sure. [04:27] i gotta hit the sack. :) have a good night all. [04:27] Well I will wait the dev channel of xubuntu catch the 4.5.92 version (beta 2) and upgrade. [04:49] hi [04:49] My menu bars dissapeared after applying the updates today... [04:49] How can I ge these back [04:49] The bars that have the application menu, logout icon, firefox icon by default.... [04:51] sorry disconnected [04:52] my top and bottom bar are missing after updating xubuntu [04:54] I should really say panels [04:55] slinkeey, on terminal go xfce-settings-show [04:57] I got it back [04:57] I went to uset/bin and clicked on xfsc4-panel [04:58] great. [04:58] wierd [04:58] thanks [04:59] so far I like xubuntu better then ubuntu.... seams like less going on... Nice and simple [05:00] I like stuff simple [05:00] Do most users end up installing openoffice or is abiword and etc pretty decent [05:02] sorry I am in here twice I just killed my other session [05:02] me to. [05:03] slinkeey_, actually abiword has better support for xlsx and docx files. [05:09] <|TJ|> is xubuntu built on debian or mandrake? [05:11] tj debian [05:17] mandrake has his own flavor with xfce. [05:32] join #tool [06:49] Hi, how can i project my screen to projector? im using acer extensa 4620 laptop [07:05] kddi: connect the projector and in terminal type 'xrandr --auto' [07:13] how does one run a python program? [07:13] in xubuntu [07:13] i assume that's what it is, as it ends in .py [07:17] Ahmuck: either set the rights to execute it and just click on it, or open terminal and type 'python programname.py' [07:18] ok, it's not working and giving an error so i did do the right thing [07:18] hi TheSheep [07:18] what error did it give? [07:28] TheSheep: do u do artrage? [07:28] http://pastebin.com/m266f1ed [07:29] Ahmuck: install python-xml [07:29] anyone having lock up issues with xubuntu 8.10 on a Lenovo T61? [07:31] TheSheep: same error. i was trying to get gogh to install [07:31] thought i might see if it was similar to artrage [07:32] hi [07:38] how do i set opera to be the system wide preferred browser? [07:38] update-alternatives --config x-www-browser is already set to opera [07:39] still the deskbar search applet (for example) opens links in firefox [07:40] yasvc: settings->setting manager->preferred applications [07:41] TheSheep: that's the first place i set opera to default [07:42] yasvc: it should work for all xubuntu's default applications [07:43] i wwonder why it doesn't work for me [07:44] maybe i should just uninstall FF? [07:44] i might need it sometimes though [07:52] yasvc: wait, isn't deskbar a gnome application? [07:52] yasvc: try setting the default browser in gnome settings [08:04] i can't find any gnome settings, i basically have xubuntu with a few gnome packets but nothing else [08:07] you have a .gconf directory? [08:08] yes [08:09] hrm, can't find that setting [08:10] thunar opens html files in opera.. [08:12] pidgin opens links in firefox [08:13] pidgin uses gconf for its config... [08:14]