| birnisson | hi, maybe a faq but are there going to be kde 4.2 beta packages? | 00:04 |
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| Arby | birnisson: yes, we're working on them now | 00:05 |
| birnisson | Arby: awesome, thanks! looking forward to them | 00:07 |
| a|wen | Arby: where are they going to be put; PPA or -backports ? | 00:07 |
| Arby | a|wen: ppa I think but not sure, and possibly jaunty only | 00:08 |
| Arby | JontheEchidna is coordinating | 00:08 |
| seele | ergh.. akregator is eating my rss | 00:08 |
| JontheEchidna | 4.2 beta2 packages are going in to Jaunty first | 00:09 |
| JontheEchidna | and then into the kubuntu-experimental PPA as time allows | 00:09 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: okay, thx ... did you sort out your libmsn problem? | 00:10 |
| JontheEchidna | that's not really a problem, just a piece of software that needs packaging | 00:10 |
| JontheEchidna | probably no way we're going to have it available by tomorrow so kopete'll go msn-less for a bit | 00:10 |
| JontheEchidna | I claim the "zomg it is teh alphaz" excuse :P | 00:11 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: if it's going into a PPA anyway, why not grab http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/l/libmsn/ ? | 00:12 |
| JontheEchidna | ooh | 00:12 |
| a|wen | it has been through a few iterations on the debian-mentors list and looks pretty sane | 00:12 |
| JontheEchidna | less work for me :D | 00:12 |
| JontheEchidna | debian++ | 00:13 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: not less work, just more time for kde packaging :P :) | 00:13 |
| JontheEchidna | ha, right you are | 00:13 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: and there is even a good chance it get's into unstable for us to sync at our pleasure when we'll need it "in the real archive" | 00:16 |
| JontheEchidna | lool: you will be glad to hear that kdesdk 4.1.80 builds fine :-) | 00:29 |
| JontheEchidna | hopefully we can upload tomorrow | 00:29 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: you wanted libmsn for jaunty, right? | 00:34 |
| JontheEchidna | ya | 00:34 |
| * a|wen just finetunes the one from debian mentors | 00:35 | |
| JontheEchidna | <3 | 00:35 |
| JontheEchidna | That way we only have to worry about syncing it/getting an MIR for it before the next alpha | 00:37 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: yeah ... one easy and one a bit harder | 00:39 |
| JontheEchidna | I've gotten a package MIR'd before. It was a small self-contained plasmoid though :P | 00:39 |
| a|wen | got one of my package that i maintain in debian MIR'd as well ... but don't know how it happened :) | 00:46 |
| * NCommander has written MIRs | 00:49 | |
| NCommander | They aren't hard | 00:49 |
| NCommander | dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: couldn't find library libiris_ksirk.so.2 needed by debian/ksirk/usr/games/ksirk (its RPATH is ''). | 00:49 |
| NCommander | ARGH | 00:49 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: for your pleasure http://awen.dk/packages/libmsn/ | 01:06 |
| JontheEchidna | cool, thanks | 01:09 |
| a|wen | my pleasure | 01:11 |
| * a|wen will hit bed now ... see you all tomorrow | 01:11 | |
| jjesse | anyone having problems installing jaunty alpha1? | 01:21 |
| * JontheEchidna didn't even try installing it | 01:23 | |
| DreadKnight | i have a huge problem | 03:06 |
| DreadKnight | when i am tring to open something in gimp it just dissappears / crashes | 03:06 |
| DreadKnight | http://pastebin.com/m26780397 | 03:08 |
| DreadKnight | that's my error log | 03:08 |
| metellius | is there a daily trunk kde snapshot repository available somewhere? I have things in ark that I need to align together with the rest of 4.2, but my poor little laptop doesn't like compiling for several hours. | 03:52 |
| ScottK-laptop | metellius: I think project Neon builds nightlys for KDE. | 03:58 |
| metellius | thanks, I'll check it out | 04:49 |
| yuriy | anybody else still on kde4 on hardy? | 05:17 |
| yuriy | i'm getting most of the config modules missing in konqueror | 05:17 |
| yuriy | apt-file gives me konqueror-kde4: /usr/lib/kde4/lib/kde4/kcm_css.so | 05:43 |
| yuriy | but I don't have that file | 05:43 |
| yuriy | as an example of the above | 05:43 |
| yuriy | but apt-file can't pull info from ppa | 05:54 |
| Nightrose | yuriy: my eeepc is on hardy still - want me to check something? | 10:09 |
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| apachelogger | neversfelde: official backport should arrive in intrepid-backports soon | 12:31 |
| lool | JontheEchidna: thanks for the note! | 14:19 |
| TekkieFreak | bbl | 15:09 |
| nixternal | rgreening: I see you are my roommate :) | 16:07 |
| rgreening | nixternal: \o/ | 16:19 |
| rgreening | :P | 16:19 |
| yuriy | Nightrose: yeah could you see if all the settings in konqueror are there? | 17:07 |
| yuriy | if you're on 4.1 | 17:07 |
| rgreening | yuiry: remember a while back, we talked about KlamAv and porting to KDE4? | 17:07 |
| yuriy | vaguely | 17:08 |
| rgreening | yuriy: I was wondering if it instead made sense to write a python front-end instead? | 17:08 |
| yuriy | dunno, I don't recall saying I'd do it, maybe I said I'd help a little if someone else was working on it? | 17:08 |
| rgreening | yuriy: that was to help me :) | 17:09 |
| yuriy | ah | 17:09 |
| Nightrose | yuriy: 4.1.3 should be on the eeepc - let me boot it | 17:09 |
| cbr | will we see the 4.2 beta soon? | 17:10 |
| Nightrose | yuriy: looks ok here | 17:13 |
| ScottK | cbr: Yes (for Jaunty first). | 17:15 |
| cbr | when? | 17:15 |
| cbr | i'm just anxious :) | 17:15 |
| ScottK | When it's done, which should be soonish. | 17:15 |
| ScottK | rgreening: Fundamentally klamav needs porting and upstream doesn't seem to have a lot of time for klamav. It'd be cool if someone here got interested, but I don't think something pythonish would solve the problem. | 17:19 |
| yuriy | oh why not? | 17:20 |
| ScottK | I guess if you want to re-implement the whole thing in Python, it would. | 17:21 |
| yuriy | Nightrose: actually, I only have 4.1.2 here.. is 4.1.3 not in the same repo? | 17:25 |
| yuriy | and apt-cache and aptitude show me different versions @_@ | 17:26 |
| rgreening | ScottK: that's what I was thinking, a new app in python that could superceed KlamAv... Not sure which would be easier for me to implement at this time. | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | ~np | 17:33 |
| kubotu | apachelogger is listening to "The Stars (AC Slater remix)" by Moby | 17:33 |
| ScottK | rgreening: It'd be pretty complex as klamav supports on-access file scanning using the dazuko kernel modules. I've got that patched out of the Debian/Ubuntu packages as getting those modules into one of our kernels is 'non-trivial'. | 17:35 |
| ScottK | If it was going to be a true replacement, it'd have to do that. | 17:35 |
| ScottK | Currently klamav is pretty widely packaged and distros pass clamav integration patches around a lot. | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: shouldn't that kernel stuff be a lot easier with dkms? | 17:36 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Probably for someone who understood anything about the kernel. | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | :) | 17:37 |
| rgreening | lol | 17:37 |
| rgreening | porting is not trivial to someone who doesn't a) understand the app inside and out and 2) who is not familiar with all the nuances/differences between 3.x and 4.x. That sort of why I though a ground up approach might actually be easier for me. However, I may take another stab at what it would take to port. I had started the work on porting and got stuck... haven't had a chance to veer back to it. | 17:39 |
| apachelogger | there is tons of documentation on KDE 3 => KDE 4 and Qt 3 => Qt 4 | 17:40 |
| ScottK | OK. Maybe if you can get to a certain point, then we can ask questions upstream. | 17:40 |
| apachelogger | also using git it should be fairly easly to not break everything at once ;-) | 17:40 |
| ScottK | We keep the KDE CDBS stuff in kde4libs, right? | 18:09 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: kde4.mk is in cdbs itself | 18:10 |
| ScottK | Oh. | 18:11 |
| ScottK | OK. | 18:11 |
| manchicken | bobesponja: Nice handle :) | 18:14 |
| bobesponja | manchicken: thanks | 18:16 |
| devilsadvocate | Intrepid Ibex is amazing. Really, Kubuntu and Xubuntu. I admit I was a bit worried after Hardy, but trying out Intrepid made my day. Thank you all for the great work. | 18:33 |
| ScottK | devilsadvocate: Thanks. Glad to hear it. | 18:44 |
| devilsadvocate | considering how whenever i say something here its to bitch about something, i felt i should come over and say that | 18:45 |
| manchicken | Heh, that's funny. | 18:47 |
| manchicken | Does the latest NM support openvpn? | 18:55 |
| ^seelenn^ | nixternal: ping | 19:46 |
| ^seelenn^ | jjesse: ping | 19:46 |
| jjesse | ^seelenn^ pong | 19:46 |
| ^seelenn^ | I've put up a mock up of help:/kubuntu/index.html - go to http://www.testsite.webmonkeydesigns.co.uk | 19:46 |
| ^seelenn^ | Obviously open it up in Konqueror and let me know what you think | 19:46 |
| ^seelenn^ | None of the links work by the way | 19:46 |
| jjesse | will do, looks good in firefox | 19:46 |
| jjesse | ^seelenn^: in konquror on my dell mini (1000*600) it runs together | 19:48 |
| jjesse | but looks decent | 19:48 |
| jjesse | don't have a bigger screen right now | 19:48 |
| jjesse | in firefox on my vista laptop it looks great | 19:48 |
| ^seelenn^ | I could fix making it more suitable for smaller screens | 19:49 |
| jjesse | that shouldn't be the primary use case though | 19:49 |
| ^seelenn^ | true | 19:49 |
| ScottK | So if all Launchpad translations have to be BSD licensed, how do we pull in upstream translations from GPL projects? | 19:50 |
| jjesse | i don't think we do? | 19:50 |
| JontheEchidna | ^seelenn^: the KDE logo looks very KDE3 | 19:54 |
| JontheEchidna | other than that it looks great | 19:54 |
| ^seelenn^ | Hi JontheEchidna, thanks for letting me know, know where I can find a good looking one more up to date? | 19:55 |
| ^seelenn^ | I took the images off the current help:/kubuntu so it's got a few out of date images | 19:56 |
| JontheEchidna | ^seelenn^: http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/images/4/4b/Kde-128.png | 19:56 |
| ^seelenn^ | thank you muchly | 19:57 |
| jjesse | ^seelenn^: thinking more on the help.kubuntu.org and i really enjoy the look and feel of it. looks a lot like the help documentation that is installed on the system | 19:58 |
| ScottK | jjesse: We don't use the upstream translations at all? | 20:05 |
| NCommander | JontheEchidna, invite to bunker please | 20:20 |
| NCommander | er | 20:20 |
| NCommander | crap | 20:20 |
| jjesse | ScottK: i hvae no idea how to respond, but i don't understand the license thing one bit | 20:28 |
| jjesse | my comment was mostly sarcastic | 20:28 |
| apachelogger | jjesse: the icons make my eyes bleed | 20:51 |
| jjesse | apachelogger: on the help site? | 20:52 |
| apachelogger | yes | 20:53 |
| apachelogger | jjesse: http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/index/ | 20:53 |
| apachelogger | jjesse: also the theme should be mostly identical with the one ryanakca is coming up for the wiki IMHO | 20:53 |
| jjesse | refer to ^seelenn^ | 20:54 |
| jjesse | apachelogger: i agree i know ^seelenn^ did a mockup only | 20:54 |
| apachelogger | the KDE logo really needs to become a kubuntu logo | 20:54 |
| apachelogger | but | 20:54 |
| apachelogger | what is really disturbing me is the icon size | 20:54 |
| apachelogger | the current one is far too small | 20:54 |
| * ^seelenn^ takes some notes | 20:55 | |
| ^seelenn^ | thanks for the feedback apachelogger, I'll work on a version 2 | 20:55 |
| apachelogger | I like the concept, much better organized than the current one | 20:55 |
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| ^seelenn^ | apachelogger: mind if I take the icons on the link you posted? | 20:56 |
| ^seelenn^ | and I'll make them bigger to avoid bleeding :) | 20:56 |
| jjesse | i like it when apachelogger's eye bleed :) | 20:57 |
| apachelogger | ^seelenn^: you might want to run apt-get source kdebase-runtime, somewhere within that source tree you will find the oxygen icon set | 20:57 |
| apachelogger | special versions for small sizes and SVGs and stuff | 20:58 |
| ^seelenn^ | thanks | 21:00 |
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