[01:27] <meoblast001> hi
[01:27] <meoblast001> how do you delete a branch
[01:28] <mwhudson> meoblast001: little red icon next to the heading on the branch page
[01:28] <meoblast001> thanx
[01:31] <meoblast001> something went wrong
[01:32] <meoblast001> someone needs to check the bzr server... it must be down
[01:35] <Ursinha> jml, ^
[01:37] <jml> meoblast001: what makes you say that?
[01:37] <meoblast001> it wont work
[01:37] <jml> meoblast001: I see.
[01:38] <spm> works for me... ?
[01:38] <meoblast001> sorry
[01:38] <meoblast001> im multitasking
[01:38] <jml> meoblast001: the bazaar server isn't down, so maybe you could give us more info on the error message?
[01:38] <meoblast001> i'll ask again later when im not doing something else important lol
[01:40]  * jml lunch
[01:44] <meoblast001> ssh: connect to host launchpad.net port 22: Connection timed out
[01:45] <beuno> meoblast001, I'm sure you mean:  sftp bazaar.launchpad.net
[01:45] <meoblast001> i always used bzr+ssh://
[01:45] <meoblast001> and it worked
[01:45] <beuno> sure, and it should still work now
[01:46] <meoblast001> bzr push bzr+ssh://meoblast@bazaar.launchpad.net/~mysticgalaxies/mpackguy/devel --use-existing-dir
[01:46] <meoblast001> and that failed
[01:46] <cjwatson> meoblast001: but the error message indicates you're using launchpad.net rather than bazaar.launchpad.net
[01:46] <meoblast001> now it says no new revisions t push
[01:47] <meoblast001> but the branch is empty
[01:48] <beuno> meoblast001, and you're sure it's not empty?
[01:48] <beuno> try locally:  bzr log
[01:48] <meoblast001> i typed bzr init
[01:48] <spm> meoblast001: can you debug if you have a working bzr+ssh connection. do a simple branch of .. well any small project?
[01:48] <meoblast001> and then i typed bzr ci and it said it was up to date
[01:48] <meoblast001> the log says nothing
[01:48] <beuno> meoblast001, you have to add files,  "bzr add"
[01:48] <beuno> right, so if the log says nothing, then the branch really is empty
[01:52] <meoblast001> ok
[01:52] <meoblast001> thanx
[02:17] <NCommander> beuno, can you increase space in a PPA?
[02:17] <spm> NCommander: I can if you use the magic word? :-P
[02:17] <NCommander> now?
[02:18]  * NCommander is gunned down
[02:18] <NCommander> Please :-)
[02:18] <spm> Got in in one! ;-)
[02:31] <cjwatson> mwhudson,rockstar: yay, openssh imported successfully. Thanks!
[02:31] <rockstar> cjwatson, huh.  I didn't know we had rolled it out already.
[02:32] <cjwatson> 19:44 <mwhudson> cjwatson: request away
[02:32] <cjwatson> (when I asked whether I was OK to re-request the import yet)
[02:35] <mwhudson> cjwatson: awesome
[03:09] <mrooney> Is it possible to change the project of a blueprint?
[03:36] <mrooney> Argh, I tried to create a new blueprint instead
[03:36] <mrooney> But now it won't be let set the spec URL because it "is already registered by another blueprint"
[04:45] <kenneth> I'm having a problem subscribing to bugs: They aren't showing up on my related bugs listing  ie https://bugs.launchpad.net/~kennethfinnegan2007 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/27323
[04:45] <kenneth> Does anyone know if there is a trick to it or should I just file a bug report
[04:48] <mwhudson> kenneth: it's because it's Fix Released i think
[04:48] <wgrant> kenneth: It's closed (Fix Released, Invalid and Won't Fix are the closed statuses), so won't appear in bug lists by default.
[04:48] <wgrant> kenneth: You can perform an advanced search and select all of the statuses to see it.
[04:49] <kenneth> look at that. Thanks, that makes a lot of sense
[04:49] <wgrant> Bug #5977
[04:51] <kenneth> that's it.  The advanced search is just what I wanted too. Makes sense when you have more than 5 bugs your interested in.  Thanks guys!
[06:03] <Hobbsee> mars: I got it killed previously, thanks anyway.
[06:03] <Hobbsee> mars: you can kill it again, and I can rescurrect it again ;)
[06:09] <NCommander> hey Hobbsee
[06:09] <Hobbsee> hey there NCommander!
[06:09] <NCommander> how goes it?
[06:11] <Hobbsee> OK.   done one exam
[06:12] <NCommander> How many left?
[06:15] <Hobbsee> 2
[06:22] <NCommander> Hobbsee, not bad
[06:22] <wgrant> Slacker!
[07:05] <wgrant> cprov: I like the sound of r7329. Does this mean PPA signing is actually going to happen this release?
[07:15] <NCommander> hey lamont
[07:22] <pro-rsoft> hi guys, what does "Triaged" mean?
[07:25] <wgrant> pro-rsoft: https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/Statuses
[07:25] <pro-rsoft> thanks! never seen that page before
[07:39]  * wgrant hasn't seen absoludity around these parts before.
[07:39] <absoludity> Hi wgrant... yes, I'm pretty new around here (4 weeks) :)
[07:40] <wgrant> Yep.
[11:02] <sodoku> can anybody please confirm, that the openoffice3 packages for intrepid have been removed from the ppa?
[11:03] <bigjools> why don't you look yourself?
[11:04] <sodoku> bigjools: there are not there, i would like to have an official statement
[11:04] <bigjools> about what?
[11:05] <sodoku> bigjools: why there are not there. being reuplaoded? removed on intent, or do i do something wrong
[11:06] <bigjools> sodoku: I need some context.  What PPA?
[11:07] <sodoku> bigjools: sorry, this ppa https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive
[11:08] <bigjools> sodoku: well I suggest you contact the PPA owner
[11:10] <Hobbsee> greetings, bigjools
[11:10] <sodoku> bigjools: thanks, i will, i thought maybe someone here would know
[11:11] <bigjools> sodoku: sorry I can't help more
[11:11] <bigjools> Hobbsee: hello
[11:11] <sodoku> bigjools: no problem, thanks though
[12:08] <fballem> hello
[12:10] <fballem> good bye for now
[12:10] <Ursinha> então tá
[12:11] <lamont> hey NCommander
[12:50] <cyhawk> hi! i've committed a few html files in my branch (documentation). browsing the source code on launchpad the html can be seen, but not rendered as a web page, but as its source. is there a way to see it online as a web page? i would like to link to it
[12:51] <noodles_20> Hi cyhawk, AFAIK, launchpad only supports browsing the source code, not rendering it.
[12:52] <noodles_20> Hi cyhawk, AFAIK, launchpad only supports browsing the source code, not rendering it.
[12:53] <cyhawk> too bad, it would be great to be able to see the latest documentation online
[12:53] <cyhawk> thanks anyway!
[16:39] <fballem_> hello
[16:39] <noodles_20> hi fballem_ :)
[16:39] <fballem_> oh good, I finally got this working!
[16:40] <fballem_> am I in the Launchpad chat?
[16:40] <noodles_20> Well done!
[16:40] <noodles_20> You are indeed... btw: it was me who answered your email :)
[16:40] <fballem_> excellent, thank you
[16:41] <noodles_20> You're welcome.
[16:41] <noodles_20> Have you had a chance to check out the video tutorials? Or is that next on your list...
[16:41] <fballem_> I've started on the videos. Just one suggestion, there should be a website with either a transcript or at least the commands that he is entering. He goes really fast
[16:41] <noodles_20> fballem_, Yes, I used the pause button a lot when watching them...
[16:41] <noodles_20> fballem_, also note: you can watch the high-resolution version...
[16:41] <noodles_20> it's a lot easier to read.
[16:42] <fballem_> and how do I do that
[16:42] <noodles_20> There's a link just below the video in YouTube...
[16:42] <fballem_> I'll check that out later.
[16:42] <noodles_20> Something like "watch this video in high resolution".
[16:43] <fballem_> If I understood the rest of your reply, you're suggesting that I should probably just keep the source on my local drive and publish the packages in Launchpad. Have I got that right?
[16:43] <noodles_20> Yes, if the only changes you are doing at the moment are:
[16:43] <noodles_20> 1) changing the icon
[16:43] <noodles_20> 2) creating a debian package from the source
[16:44] <noodles_20> Then yes. It might be a good way to start...
[16:44] <fballem_> Those are the only changes that I'm doing. I gather from other posters on a thread that there are some issues with the icons not matching up with gnome/ubuntu standards. Others may want to join in the project to solve that problem.
[16:45] <noodles_20> That's great that they want to join in and help!
[16:45] <fballem_> another question - is it possible to use Pigin for IRC?
[16:45] <noodles_20> Yes it is.
[16:46] <noodles_20> The main reason I recommended XChat was that I could find a good tutorial for setting it up...
[16:46] <noodles_20> But I couldn't find anything similar for using Pidgin with IRC.
[16:46] <fballem_> didn't need the tutorial.
[16:46] <noodles_20> Great!
[16:47] <noodles_20> Basically, XChat is a lot better if you start joining multiple channels etc., or want to use advanced options like being notified when a certain word is mentioned...
[16:47] <fballem_> I did try Pigin, but I couldn't get it to work. It kept nattering about needing to do /msg .....
[16:47] <noodles_20> Aha.
[16:47] <fballem_> that sounds encouraging ... like you know what the problem was and how to fix it.
[16:48] <noodles_20> ? the problem with Pidgin? no, I don't know what the problem was...
[16:48] <noodles_20> Usually /msg is used for sending a private message in IRC... but you shouldn't have needed it to chat on a channel publicly with Pidgen...
[16:48] <fballem_> rats. Oh well, this is working, it ain't broke, I ain't going to fix it.
[16:48] <noodles_20> Yep.
[16:49] <fballem_> do you troll this site looking for newbies?
[16:49] <noodles_20> No, I'm on "Community Help Rotation" today:
[16:50] <noodles_20> fballem_, https://help.launchpad.net/HelpRotation
[16:50] <fballem_> That must be fun. Can you do this on your day job? I'm working from home to-day, so I do get a chance to use my personal PC once in a while
[16:52] <fballem_> should I be able to do something by clicking on the link?
[16:52] <noodles_20> fballem_, :), yeah, I know what you mean...
[16:52] <noodles_20> fballem_, if you right-click, it should give you an option...
[16:54] <fballem_> that was easy.
[16:54] <fballem_> Do I need to do anything else to make sure that I can easily return to here
[16:54] <fballem_> and how do I get rid of the underscore after my name?
[16:55] <noodles_20> one tic
[16:55] <noodles_20> The reason the underscore is there is because apparently someone else is also on freenode with the nick fballem
[16:55] <noodles_20> That said, that could actually be you from Pidgin?
[16:56] <fballem_> probably an earlier attempt on my part
[16:56] <noodles_20> You can change your nick by typing /nick new-nick
[16:56] <fballem_> it's thinking about it
[16:57] <fballem_> as in /nick fballem
[16:57] <noodles_20> The tutorial I mentioned has instructions about how to setup XChat so you will automatically join this channel next time you run it.
[16:57] <noodles_20> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto
[16:57] <noodles_20> Yes that's correct, but /msg needs to be the first thing on the line...
[16:58] <fballem_> so /msg /nick fballem
[16:58] <noodles_20> Sorry... no /msg, my fault...
[16:58] <noodles_20> Just: /nick fballem
[16:59] <noodles_20> It will probably tell you that someone else is already using that name...
[16:59] <fballem_> Ah well, I'll read the tutorial. In the meantime, I'm going to grab some lunch. Nice chatting with you and thanks again for the care in the e-mail.
[16:59] <noodles_20> No probs. Hope you get your package up!
[16:59] <fballem_> ciau
[17:04] <soren> I'm curious: Why do the PPA buildd's bother to remove the installed packages again? Aren't the entire chroot (or domU or whatever) blown away immediately afterwards?
[17:06] <bigjools> soren: I guess nobody thought about it before
[17:07] <bigjools> soren: can you file a bug!
[17:14] <soren> bigjools: I'll do that in a bit.
[17:32] <splodge> Has anyone come across the following error on branching: "Supplied history does not follow left-hand parents" and know how to fix it?
[17:33] <splodge> This is on using "bzr branch".
[17:33] <noodles_20> splodge, might be worth asking on #bzr? I've not seen it before myself...
[17:34] <splodge> Ok, yeh you're probably right actually. For some reason
[17:34] <splodge> I thought to come here first because there are some inconsistencies on the branch's page on lp.
[17:35] <splodge> The Recent Revisions list shows an incorrect recent revision (and links incorrectly). The most recent revision is 16, but it shows 6.
[17:36] <noodles_20> splodge, just found this: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/287286
[17:37] <noodles_20> Talks about the "Screwed up history bug"... sounds like a possibility..
[17:37] <splodge> I think that's it. I've come across a few of these but no solution yet.
[17:38] <splodge> And I ideally don't want to lose the history (short as it is atm), but merging into a new branch doesn't work.
[17:38] <noodles_20> Nor how to avoid it in the future...
[17:39] <splodge> Hm anyway, thanks. I'll go ask in #bzr, see if I can turn anything up.
[17:40] <splodge> While I'm here tho, can some lp admin here delete a branch for me?
[17:40] <noodles_20> I just asked in bzr... (I'm interested my self :) ).
[17:40] <noodles_20> One tic..
[17:40] <splodge> While trying to fix it with merging I created and pushed a branch but it refuses to be deleted now -- dying with an "Oops" page.
[17:40] <noodles_20> ew.
[17:41] <noodles_20> ok, jam just came in with something he thinks should fix it...
[17:42] <noodles_20> Pasting his response: noodles_20: 'bzr reconcile' fixes it (albeit it also tries to fix a bunch of other stuff at the same time). I think you can also "bzr push --overwrite ." to have the local branch clean itself up. Though it also sounds like it is an older format branch, so "bzr upgrade" may be recommended.
[17:47] <splodge> ok, done the reconcile and looks promising: "Fixing last revision info 9 => 16" (which is expected as lp currently displays 9 instead of 16 as the most recent revision (tho All Revisions shows all correctly).
[17:47] <noodles_20> Great!
[17:47] <splodge> Can't push to lp atm however, is it currently down?
[17:48] <noodles_20> Yes... well, not exactly...
[17:48] <splodge> For the record, upgrade wasn't necessary: "bzr: ERROR: The branch format Bazaar-NG meta directory, format 1 is already at the most recent format."
[17:48] <noodles_20> but any page that is anything to do with PPAs currently seems to be timing out... so best to wait.
[17:48] <splodge> I will do. Thanks for the help, we'll see how it goes from here :)
[17:48] <noodles_20> Yep. No probs.
[17:49] <bigjools> noodles_20: not all PPAs, just one :)
[17:50] <noodles_20> ah... my mistake :)
[17:58] <splodge> Ok, just for fyi, I've just been through the motions (pushing, branching etc and checking the details for the branch on lp) and everything looks ok now; no problems.
[17:59] <splodge> Thanks again.
[17:59] <noodles_20> splodge, Glad to hear it :)
[19:38] <emorris> hi, how do you add an extra affected package in a bug report?
[19:40] <bigjools> emorris: click on "also affects distribution"
[19:41] <emorris> bigjools: fair enough. i thought that would have just allowed you to choose a different distribution, but hey.
[19:41] <bigjools> the link text is a bit short, you're right
[20:45] <b231> hi, I have a bzr repository on launchpad and want to give another launchpad user access to this branch. How to i do that?
[20:46] <mwhudson> b231: create a team, make yourself and the other user members of it, assign the branch to the team
[20:46] <b231> mwhudson: ah ! thanks
[20:51] <b231> mwhudson: sry i didn't find. where can I create a team?
[20:51] <beuno> b231, https://launchpad.dev/people/+newteam
[20:52] <beuno> b231, I'm curious. Where did you look for it?
[20:52] <mthaddon> beuno, s/dev/net/
[20:52] <beuno> uhm
[20:52] <Ursinha> b231, on the startpage, you should see "People and teams"
[20:52] <beuno> yes :)
[20:52] <beuno> b231, https://launchpad.net/people/+newteam
[20:52] <beuno> thanks mthaddon
[20:52] <Ursinha> b231, clicking on it, you'll see "Register new team" on your right side
[20:52]  * beuno doesn't even know where he is anymore
[20:53] <b231> ok :)
[20:53] <mwhudson> beuno: that's because you're at "home", i can see why this might be confusing
[20:53] <Ursinha> lol
[20:54] <b231> when i go on my profile site i didn't have a link to create a new team
[20:55] <beuno> mwhudson, not only that, I have launchpad developers here. That just made the confusion even worst
[20:58] <b231> for my logic a link should be on the profile site but anyway thanks :)
[21:15] <NCommander> spm, around?
[21:16] <spm> NCommander: yup - but about to do some funky server side stuff - so a tad busy :-)
[21:16] <NCommander> ah
[21:16] <spm> wassup?
[23:27] <Robb_M> Am i supposed to be able to see another users OpenID link in their profile?
[23:32] <Ursinha> Robb_M, don't think so
[23:32]  * Robb_M just thinks its a bit "silly" to show a link that wouldnt be usable to someone other than the intended user....almost like saying "neener neener heres a key to my car..." and holding the key 5 ft above a users head..then pulling it up when they try to jump.
[23:33] <Ursinha> Robb_M, why? can you see others openid urls?
[23:33] <Robb_M> yes Ursinha
[23:34] <Ursinha> Robb_M, what's your username in LP?
[23:34] <Robb_M> my username on LP is r.munson
[23:40] <Ursinha> Robb_M, well, now that the openid url is the same as your lp homepage, I think that's no big deal having it there
[23:40] <Ursinha> but it's kinda pointless somehow
[23:40] <Robb_M> Ursinha:yeah...i thought about that.
[23:40] <Ursinha> beuno, your little two cents, please? :)
[23:41] <Robb_M> Ursinha:im not saying its not a bad thought....just...i dont think it was well thought out is all...not that i can do much help.
[23:57] <Robb_M> bbiaf..maybe.