| twb | cjwatson: ping? | 01:06 |
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| twb | So I am netbooting the 8.04 and 8.04.1 desktop i386 images, basically unmodified. And while the former works, the latter completely explodes and dies -- gdm doesn't start, and the tty1-6 upstart events are disabled because they restart too frequently. | 01:06 |
| twb | I get "user not known to underlying authentication system" or similar -- presumably in reference to the "ubuntu" user that casper tries to create on boot. | 01:06 |
| cjwatson | twb: it's 1am and I'm about to go to bed - I don't think I should attempt to dive into this now | 01:07 |
| twb | OK, no worries. | 01:07 |
| cjwatson | twb: try to extract /var/log/casper.log if you can | 01:07 |
| twb | cjwatson: when do you next expect to be pester-able? | 01:07 |
| cjwatson | twb: may have to play about a bit to boot into something where you can get hold of that - maybe try booting with 'single' on the command line? | 01:08 |
| cjwatson | that should get you into an environment where you can check if the user actually exists, too | 01:08 |
| twb | Yeah, I'm about to seriously attack this. | 01:08 |
| cjwatson | twb: for various personal reasons I can't give you a reliable time at the moment | 01:08 |
| twb | No problem. | 01:08 |
| cjwatson | asynchronous methods are best - feel free to send me / ubuntu-installer@lists mail | 01:09 |
| twb | OK.. | 01:09 |
| twb | OK, I just realized there are TWO casper.logs -- after unionfsization, there's a second one in /var/log | 01:33 |
| twb | It says "sudo: no passwd entry for ubuntu!" | 01:33 |
| twb | groupdel: group ubuntu does not exist | 01:34 |
| twb | adduser: `groupdel ubuntu' returned error code 6. Exiting. | 01:34 |
| CIA-2 | debian-installer: cjwatson * r1001 ubuntu/ (build/Makefile debian/changelog): Apply Ubuntu branding to version.info. | 02:34 |
| twb | Problem solved. Some jackass had set umask 077 in /etc/profile on the server, so the netboot dir was being created readable and executable by root, but not by anyone else. | 02:55 |
| CarlFK | twb: does 8.10 netboot for you? | 06:12 |
| twb | I've no idea. | 06:20 |
| twb | Since these systems are deployed to secure facilities, we generally stick to LTS. | 06:20 |
| evand | davmor2: re USB> Yes, that would be a big help. | 08:50 |
| evand | I just need to confirm that Wubi from a usb-creator generated USB disk works | 08:50 |
| evand | need someone* (I don't have a Windows VM) | 08:51 |
| davmor2 | No Probs I'll hit it in a bit then need to take the mother-in-law to the docs first :) | 08:51 |
| evand | sure thing. Thanks! | 08:52 |
| twb | davmor2: to the docks? | 08:52 |
| twb | davmor2: are you gonna make her sleep with the fishies? | 08:52 |
| cjwatson | davmor2: pretty sure I fixed your grub installation problem of the other day, by the way, once I figured out how to trigger it myself | 09:02 |
| soren | win 4 | 09:02 |
| soren | gah.. | 09:02 |
| evand | ah, I take back what I said yesterday. It was a broken version of partman-auto sitting in my local archive causing trouble. | 10:35 |
| CIA-2 | ubiquity: evand * r2952 ubiquity/debian/ (changelog ubiquity.install-any): Install check-missing-firmware as part of hw-detect. | 11:03 |
| evand | hrm, jaunty grub is segfaulting | 12:12 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: evand: Right back :) | 12:21 |
| davmor2 | evand: Are you wanting the usb testing on hardy.2 or intrepid? | 12:28 |
| evand | intrepid please | 12:29 |
| evand | hrm, it happens with intrepid's grub in a jaunty live CD as well | 12:35 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: Was the issue that grub was writing to boot but not to mbr? | 12:36 |
| davmor2 | evand right firing up windows fingers crosseed | 12:43 |
| * evand crosses his fingers | 12:43 | |
| davmor2 | installing | 12:44 |
| davmor2 | evand: bugger it's downloading the files | 12:46 |
| davmor2 | but wubi and umenu work okay | 12:46 |
| evand | downloading the files? It doesn't detect the USB disk as a source then? | 12:47 |
| davmor2 | That's what I'm assuming yes | 12:47 |
| evand | if you start wubi and click on the desktop environment drop down list, is there more than just Ubuntu in there? | 12:48 |
| davmor2 | I'll let it complete anyway | 12:48 |
| davmor2 | hang on | 12:48 |
| davmor2 | Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Mythbuntu are listed | 12:49 |
| evand | yup, doesn't see it as a source | 12:50 |
| evand | err | 12:50 |
| evand | right, doesn't see the USB disk as a source | 12:50 |
| evand | I'll file a bug | 12:51 |
| evand | thanks for your help | 12:51 |
| davmor2 | evand: Np's | 12:52 |
| cjwatson | davmor2: yeah, it was a side-effect of it misdetecting the system as using SATA RAID | 16:02 |
| cjwatson | davmor2: which was due to a change in dmraid's output format | 16:02 |
| CIA-2 | console-setup: cjwatson * r84 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog console-setup.templates): | 16:36 |
| CIA-2 | console-setup: Default console-setup/ask_detect to false, since it's hard to back up | 16:36 |
| CIA-2 | console-setup: out of the detection widget once you've entered it. | 16:36 |
| cjwatson | Haegin: you're running into bug 18225. The simple workaround is to set mirror/country to "manual" rather than to "IE" | 16:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 18225 in choose-mirror "Allow preseeding $CC.archive.ubuntu.com-style setup" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18225 | 16:38 |
| Haegin | cjwatson: ah, thanks, if i set it to manual will i have to select the country manually? i am aiming for a completely automated install | 16:40 |
| cjwatson | no, when preseeding "manual" effectively just means that you can set it using mirror/http/hostname and mirror/http/directory as you're trying to do | 16:40 |
| cjwatson | if you select "manual" in an interactive installation, that causes it to ask the hostname and directory questions - but preseeding them skips that | 16:40 |
| Haegin | awesome, that seems to have worked | 16:45 |
| Haegin | now i am getting the keyboard choice dialog coming up again but i blame that on me changing the netboot install thing i am using to the correct set of files for intrepid | 16:46 |
| CIA-2 | console-setup: cjwatson * r85 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.28ubuntu2 | 16:50 |
| cjwatson | Haegin: you're using Debian-style keyboard preseeding rather than Ubuntu-style (I guess you're reading the wrong documentation) and furthermore you need to set keyboard preseeding on the kernel command line rather than in a preseed file (unless you're using initrd preseeding) | 16:50 |
| CIA-2 | usb-creator: evand * r66 usb-creator/usbcreator/gtk_frontend.py: Fix a grammatical typo in the GTK frontend. | 16:51 |
| Haegin | cjwatson: ah yes, got it now thanks. do you know how i can get rid of the encrypted home dir dialog and the auto update dialog? | 16:54 |
| cjwatson | https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html already documents the second (search for "Policy for applying updates" | 17:03 |
| cjwatson | ) | 17:03 |
| cjwatson | I forgot to document the first in time for 8.10 (it's in the jaunty guide): 'd-i user-setup/encrypted-private boolean false' | 17:04 |
| Haegin | thanks again | 17:12 |
| CIA-2 | usb-creator: evand * r67 usb-creator/debian/changelog: Correct grammatical typo in the GTK frontend (LP: #297569). | 17:25 |
| Haegin | just out of interest is it possible to automatically run an oem install from netboot? | 17:29 |
| cjwatson | well, the first stage yes, obviously not counting the end-user configuration step | 17:30 |
| cjwatson | oem-config/enable=true on the kernel command line, plus 'd-i oem-config-udeb/instructions seen true' | 17:31 |
| Haegin | thanks cjwatson | 17:33 |
| Haegin | cjwatson: sorry to keep asking questions but is it possible for the installer to turn the pc off after the end of the install rather than reboot? | 17:37 |
| Haegin | is the debian-installer/exit/poweroff boolean true option still valid in ubuntu? | 17:45 |
| cjwatson | Haegin: "still"? it's a very recent option and only exists in jaunty | 17:48 |
| cjwatson | added by me in response to another user's question in this channel | 17:49 |
| cjwatson | so not in <=8.10, I'm afraid | 17:49 |
| Haegin | cjwatson: ah ok, i figured it was a debian option. thanks | 17:50 |
| * Haegin ponders how stable jaunty is then decides that selling jaunty machines isn't a good idea | 17:51 | |
| cjwatson | I wouldn't recommend it :) | 18:04 |
| * evand tries to get the upper hand on Haegin by selling Jaunty+1 machines. | 18:10 | |
| evand | cjwatson: Isn't bug 92014 really a bug in libata? As far as I can tell, there's really no way to discern a SCSI block device from a SATA one. | 18:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 92014 in partman-base "/dev/sd* shouldn't be described as SCSI any more" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92014 | 18:35 |
| evand | Even HAL sees the storage.bus (somewhat rightly) as scsi. I suspect this is something that need to be fixed further up the chain. | 18:36 |
| evand | Though I also suspect this has been discussed before, and am really just looking for a better understanding of the problem :) | 18:37 |
| cjwatson | evand: the bug is in the description used by partman-base; /dev/sd* realistically should no longer be described as exclusively SCSI | 18:43 |
| cjwatson | I don't think we can expect libata to change | 18:45 |
| evand | Any idea if the kernel could expose an extra bit in /sys/block to allow userspace to discern between SCSI and SATA? | 18:47 |
| cjwatson | sounds feasible but I don't know ... | 18:47 |
| evand | ok, thanks for explanation. I'll ask in -kernel whether it's feasible and if someone with familiarity in that subsystem has the time and willingness to try to get it upstream. | 18:49 |
| cjwatson | I think it'd be useful to say, but if we can't, then it would be better to be less specific rather than being more specific but possibly wrong :-) | 19:04 |
| cjwatson | "SCSI/SATA" wouldn't be that bad I guess | 19:04 |
| cjwatson | if you do change it, send it to debian-boot@ so we can get translations updated in sync if possible | 19:05 |
| evand | noted, thanks | 19:05 |
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