[00:45] superm1: do you have any updates to ivtv available for 8.10 in your ppa, or are any of the older ones available that can be used (or do I even need them)? I am having the 'Unable to Initialize Video' problem with playback on a PVR-350, and haven't been able to find the changes (in your ppa) that are discussed in the fixes I have found online for older versions... [01:39] frozenskunk, i haven't touched and/or thought about that stuff for quite a while... [01:40] superm1: so it should still be available in your older ppa's? Or were those rolled in to newer versions, and I"m barking up the wrong tree on this problem? [01:41] frozenskunk, i've only got one PPA.. [01:41] frozenskunk, so whatever is there is there [01:41] i think the only time i pushed a fix was for one release [01:41] and then that should have been in the new release afterward [01:41] superm1: sorry, I meant from older revisions (8.04 etc.) or am I misunderstanding, and those wouldn't do anything for me anyhow. [01:42] frozenskunk, you dont want to use older xserver-xorg-video-ivtv packages with the new X stuff [01:42] it's possible it doesnt work with the new X stuff because of the new API for drivers too [01:42] ok, so the older how to's I'm reading that refer to the bugs in that don't appy to 8.10 any more [01:43] superm1: if I could just get all my hardware to work in one version, I would be set! ;-) [01:44] frozenskunk, well they likely dont apply to 8.10 anymore, but again i haven't looked at that stuff this release, so i dont know for a fact [01:44] frozenskunk, sorry i can't be more helpful :) [01:44] if you just start with a vanilla 8.10 install, what's happening with the basic howtos? [01:44] where you turn on xorg.conf options and install xserver-xorg-video-ivtv etc? [01:45] superm1: No problem, thanks for everything else you have done! At least you may have kept me from chasing a ghost for the next 3 weeks... [01:46] I haven't gotten the 'new' xorg.conf file to work yet, when I switch over to the one given in the latest how-to in the forums the machine will boot and then kick me out to a command line login, like x failed. [01:46] frozenskunk, according to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ivtvdev, we should have a sane version in intrepid that's functional [01:47] This is what I have been using: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Gutsy_hardware_pvr-350_TV-out [01:47] ah that's quite old [01:48] so i'll try to help if you promise to update the wiki page if you get it working :) [01:48] Yeah, but it was the most current that I could find. I can get just about everything going (cat a mpg2 file out, etc.) but I can't switch X over to the 350 yet. I have seen some others asking the same types of questionins in the forums, but no answers yet.. [01:48] okay [01:49] I will GLADLY rewrite the page if you can get this going!!! [01:49] so for starters, you dont want to have a files, module, or any input device sections [01:49] Heck, my fiance will probably do it for me if I can get this to work again!!! ;-) [01:49] also take out the DRI section [01:49] and the server layout section [01:49] so you'll just basically have a monitor, screen and device section [01:49] ok, in the xorg.conf file, make sure there are no file, module of input device section? [01:50] yup [01:51] ok, let me vnc over to that box and check === benoit_ is now known as Guest86689 === Guest86689 is now known as xtremxpert [01:54] Ok, the xorg.conf file I got from the previous link has all of those. Should I comment them out of that file, or start from scratch with a version written for 8.10? [01:54] well i'd say comment them out [01:54] in the end you'll have something that should be for 8.10 i think though [01:55] so i guess you'll achieve the same result either way [01:55] I have some issue with dvd playback in mythbuntu 8.10, with vlc it's fine, but with mythfrontend the playback is choppy [01:56] Ok, let me see what happens when I do that. [01:56] Like a dma issue [01:56] xtremxpert, what graphics driver? [01:56] catalist from amd [01:58] xtremxpert, okay so you probably dont have the video overlay turned on then [01:58] aticonfig has an option to enable a hardware overlay [02:00] you mean adding Option "VideoOverlay" "on" in xorg.conf [02:01] or Option "OpenGLOverlay" "on" [02:01] right [02:02] wich one [02:03] videooverlay [02:12] superm1: Ok, finally got the changes made (I think) and am rebooting now. I posted the file here so you can double check if this doesn't work: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m380641b9 [02:12] frozenskunk, i see a problem already [02:13] you didn't comment out that last endsection [02:13] it's not going to parse right [02:14] and of course I flip back to this wondow right after rebooting... ;-) I will edit and try agin. [02:14] Solution is : Option "TexturedVideo" "on" [02:15] xtremxpert, yeah it depends on if your video card supports one or the other [02:15] if you came back saying it still didn't work, i was going to recommend that [02:15] but now, I have two image one on top of the other [02:15] lol [02:15] xtremxpert, theres a fix for that too [02:15] xtremxpert, turn off bob detinterlacing [02:15] switch to something else [02:15] just for the menu, the movies play fine [02:16] oh hum [02:16] that's a bit odd... [02:17] gonna reboot and try again, may be it did not like my ctrl+alt+bs [02:25] superm1: Ok, that got X over to the TV! (Yeah, forward progress!) However, I still get the 'Unable to Initialize video when trying to play a recording or watch live TV. [02:26] frozenskunk, okay that's great to hear the first part [02:26] frozenskunk, so lets see /var/log/Xorg.0.log to make sure nothing is wrong on the X pieces [02:26] and that it's something with myth hating you [02:26] superm1: As a side note, and for the updated page; where would I have ever found to make sure not to include files, modules, etc in xorg.conf? I've been working on this for a few weeks and haven't seen the first mention of that... [02:26] frozenskunk, inside the mind of someone who knows more about the X config files than the average joe or jane? [02:26] :) [02:27] So that's why I'm writing the page, go it!!! ;-) [02:27] What changes between the old versions and the new to make that different? [02:28] the new version can go entirely without an xorg.conf [02:28] in a lot of cases [02:28] checking the log file now, give me a few minutes since I'm working between 2 boxes right now. [02:30] another small annoyance I'm having. Do you know off the top of your head how to make the wireless network connect on reboot? With afresh install of 8.10 it always asks for my keyring password before it will connect using the saved WPA password, which makes me go to the other room to type a password when I reboot... [02:31] frozenskunk, i might want to introduce you to the tool "pastebinit" [02:31] it's good for sending log files directly to pastebin [02:31] Sounds tempting! apt-get it? [02:31] frozenskunk, oh that thing is so annoying. it only happens with automatic logins [02:31] i dont know the solution though [02:31] yeah frozenskunk [02:32] so, either cancel the auto login and type that password, or type the wireless password? My choice? ;-) [02:33] Ok. also for this log file, do I want the -350 playback enabled or diabled in mythfront end (as /dev/video16) I've tried it both ways with the same result [02:33] frozenskunk, hopefully there is a better solution, but afaik that affects normal ubuntu too [02:33] that won't matter for the Xorg log [02:34] The login didn't do that in previous version (7.10 was the last I had working), but I can live with something small like that. [02:34] look around the forums for workarounds [02:34] hopefully someone knows of something there [02:34] not just the mythbuntu section [02:36] I will, haven't even begun to battle that windmill yet... [02:38] pastebinit -i /var/log/Xorg.0.log -b http://mybuntu.pastebin.org [02:38] Is that the correct usage? [02:39] you can use any pastebin, doesnt have to be mythbuntu.pastebin.org [02:40] Good, because mythbuntu didn't seem to work, here is the one that did: http://pastebin.com/f188ea3a [02:41] okay so based on that try /dev/video48 [02:41] in myth [02:46] Still get the "unable to Initialize Video' when I changed to /dev/video48 in mythfrontend setup... [02:46] I don't have to restart X or anything for that to work, do I?: [02:48] not afaik. [02:48] Also, based on my log file, what should the BusID and frame buffer be so I can make sure I got those correct. [02:48] /dev/fb0 looks right [02:48] I didn't think I had restarted for that in the past, just wanted to verify. [02:49] the busid i'm not sure [02:49] hmm "# [02:49] (II) IVTV(0): Enabling Xv support for PVR350" [02:49] Ok what about the 0:8:0 for the busid? [02:49] wonder if you just dont need to use the pvr-350 output magic anymore [02:50] Didn't even know I was using magic! What is it, and how would I have ended up using it? [02:50] the stuff in myth [02:51] but you said you tried it both ways [02:51] it's possible there is a bug in myth regarding it's handling too [02:51] Oh, let me double check that I did. [02:51] (I did make a mistake once before... ;-) [02:55] superm1: That did the trick! I must not have done it before like I thought... THANK YOU!!! [02:55] which? [02:55] Now, where and how should I go about posting this for everyone else? [02:55] start a new wiki page [02:55] based from that old one [02:56] hello [02:56] Deselected the -350 option in the mythfrontend tv playback settings. [02:56] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Intrepid_hardware_pvr-350_TV-out [02:56] frozenskunk, sweet :) [02:56] should tell upstream to take that out too then i think.. [02:56] i just installed newest version of mythbuntu and cannot get imod pad remote working with imon usb reciever [02:56] im not sure what it is im doing wrong [02:57] Ok, will do. I will let you know when i get a first version up so you can check if you don't mind. [02:57] dmesg seems to pick up the usb reciever [02:57] sure [02:57] try to take out as much cruft as you can [02:57] simple pages are better :) [02:58] Is there a reference I should use for what I removed from the xorg.conf file? [02:58] Yeah, I think I bashed my head against 14 walls that didn't matter based on the old files... [02:58] well just post your working one (with all the commented lines taken out) [02:58] and you should be good with that === Timrit_away is now known as Timrit [03:02] Ok, I will start working on that now. What should I name the new page, or should I make it an edit to the old one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Gutsy_hardware_pvr-350_TV-out ? [03:03] frozenskunk, new page i say [03:03] that old one contains too much old information [03:03] Ok, never created a new page, how do I do that? [03:03] that link i gave you - go to it [03:04] and you should be able to create a new page with it [03:04] What link [03:04] ? [03:04] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Intrepid_hardware_pvr-350_TV-out [03:05] Oh, I see where you sent it now, that's what I get for being in the other room, marveling at the video playing back on my TV.... ;-) [03:06] Is there a preferred template to use for the new page? [03:07] you can copy the source of the gutsy page for a starter i suppose [03:07] and take out what's not applicable [03:08] otherwise, i dont know of a good template [03:09] I mean from the link you provided, should I create a blank page, or use one of the templates (i.e. CategoryTemplte, HelpTemplate, etc.) [03:09] blank [03:20] Ok, working on that now. Will let you know when I have something for you to check. Thanks again for your help!!! I have been working on this for a couple weeks now after a 6 month ordeal with commandir and have been incredibly frustrated with the non-working mythtv box in the living room... [03:21] I will try to have the basics up on the page tonight, no need for someone else to struggle more than needed... [04:05] hey guys... wanting to go NAS for my new setup and was wondering your thoughts on a unit.... Currently have my thoughts on the Thecus N2100BM... Any thoughts as to which direction I should go? [04:06] So, Thecus N2100BM or is there another unit I should look into === Timrit is now known as Timrit_away === Timrit_away is now known as Timrit_zZz [05:30] I'm trying to set up my other computer to use MythBuntu and I need help understanding all the options of the installer. Will you duys help? [05:30] I'm useing the latest stable version [05:36] I know I want it setup as a Backend w/ Frontend [05:36] all the plugins [05:37] well everything [05:38] what are the VNC-service, SSH Service, Samba Service, NFS Service, and MythTV Service? [05:41] and the Mythweb Access Password, MySQL Server Root Password, [05:43] superm1: the first version is up, please make changes or let me know what I need to change. I will work on finishing it out when i have some more time. THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR HELP!!! [05:46] What do I set for a remote control? I have a Pinnacle TV tunner and the remote for that but that is the only remote I have. Also there are three Pinnacle remotes which do I chose? [05:51] There are several options for Additional Driv ers "Frontend Drivers" Modify video Driver & Settings I cacn select several drivers. I have a single Nvidia 7900 GS [05:51] any help would be appreciated [06:06] I have to go now If you have an inclanation email me at Chaorain (at) Gmail (dot) com [08:10] morning [09:20] what the hell does "Could not open "to probe its i)" mean? [09:20] me: Please watch your language. [09:27] That's one sensitive bot... [09:31] dacisc hi [09:31] davisc hi [09:31] Morning [09:32] davisc could you help me [09:32] Where did you get the rror? [09:33] mythfilldata base wont fkn run [09:33] That's the extent of the error? [09:33] no error [09:33] it just wont run [09:33] it just runs then stops [09:35] also my card says something about cant find to probe [09:36] davisc [09:36] Has the database being created? [09:36] been * [09:37] i dont knwo [09:37] know [09:37] Do you know the name of the database? (mine is mythconverg) [09:38] oh yes thats the name of it, but why does that matter? [09:39] Are there any files in /var/lib/mysql/mythconverg? [09:40] no [09:41] actually [09:41] it just says, "the folder contents could not be displayed" [09:42] There is some config file in ~mythtv (think it's an xml file) with all the MySQL info in it [09:43] where? [09:45] (I don't have access to my media centre at the mo so I can't check specifics) [09:45] this is really pi$$ing me off [09:47] the daviscbase is allready setup, davisc [12:10] I want to install Mythbuntu on my current Ubuntu 8.10 (64 bit) installation according to this instructions ---> http://www.mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu . The problem is that I have a website and I already have an SQL server (from the XAMPP package). Does this installation includes an SQL server? [12:24] * NicEXE is away: I'm busy [12:43] NicEXE, just install all the mythtv packages on your ubuntu system. [12:44] and to answer your quesstion, yes [12:48] < [12:48] oops === Timrit_zZz is now known as Timrit [15:34] * NicEXE is back (gone 03:09:36) [15:43] oh great... I have just installed mythbuntu as darthanubis instructed me and I now have an extra SQL server that makes my website not work! How can I uninstall that SQL server and use mythbuntu with my old SQL server? [15:43] NicEXE: What sql server does your box already have? [15:44] I had a MySQL server (from the XAMPP package) [15:46] why not just backup your data from the old mysql and port it to the new one? [15:46] run them both off the one maintained by apt [15:48] because I had a huge amount of data set on my old MySQL server and many places that uses that MySQL server (address, users, databases) [15:50] is there any way to uninstall the SQL package that mythbuntu installed on my system? [15:51] sure, but I think you'd be better porting to the one maintained by apt, otherwise you will lose a lot of the mythbuntu abilities unless you start modifying everything to look at your other mysql install [15:52] fireup synaptic and remove the installed mysql-server, you will need to get yourself a mythconverg db and setup your permissions by hand for mythtv then [15:53] I have just to change the MySQL username, password, and database name... [15:58] < NicEXE> I had a MySQL server (from the XAMPP package) [15:58] WHY?! [15:59] NicEXE: You really are giving yourself a headache using that [16:00] XAMPP is fine for windows.. but really not a good idea for a packages distribution like ubuntu [16:01] because if I keep my old server I will only have to change mythbuntu settings... If I keep the new server I will have to change all that code, users, address on many files [16:01] * and databases [16:02] no, you don't [16:02] ok the address remains the same [16:02] you just need to dump the old database into an SQL file, and import into a new one [16:06] if I uninstall the new SQL server I am forced to remove some mythbuntu components too. How do I disable the new SQL server? [16:06] sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop [16:07] command not found [16:10] eh? [16:10] This is Ubuntu, right? [16:14] right [16:15] ubuntu 8.10 (64 bit) [16:15] Daviey it might not be started since he has one running already? [16:16] jphillip: Then it wouldn't be causing problems with his exisiting mysql stufff [16:17] Hi folks. Have some problems with the initial configuration of an PVR-250. Lokks like hardy heron (added mythbuntu metapackage) is recognizing my card. Channels are found. Mythfilldatabase is ok too. BUt I cannot switch channels. It stays always stays on the startup channel. [16:17] since the installation was done visitors (and me on localhost) are getting mysql database errors [16:19] NicEXE: just uninstall mysql .. do a dump from XMPP [16:19] install mythtv again [16:20] nevermind... I will find a way out... thanx for the help in anyway [16:20] ... [16:22] NicEXE: I did not follow your discussion, but I had some mysql problems too, when I installed mythtv yesterday. In fact I never had acces from mythtv to the mysql database (no upnp...). Had to reset the mythtv user-password manully mith mysql-admin... [16:27] minimec I'd double check your broadcast frequency (I think thats what its called), make sure its the right thing [16:28] jphillip: broadcast frequency ?!? I will check google for it ;) THX [16:33] jphillip: Do you mean the 'channel frequency table'? [16:34] I think I might [16:35] I've had problems where if I left it on us-broadcast instead of us-cable I only got a few channels instead of them all [16:39] broadcast would give you about 14 channels. Cable will scan for more. There is a general frequency table and a tuner specific one [16:40] jphillip: Well... I get all the channels... But I cannot switch between them and I have no finetuning on them... Image and sound is good on one of them by the way... [16:48] did you attach the channel source to the card? [16:54] jphillip: Sorry. I was working on the problem INdeed it looks like I had to chance TV Standard from PAL to PAL-BG and freq.. to europe-west. Hope it works now... Thank you. [16:55] np minimec [16:57] !help [16:57] !help Use ! followed by a topic to get help on the topic (if it exists) example: !logs. Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number]. For a complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi [16:59] recommend remote to control mythbutnu [17:01] !MCEUSB2 | yo [17:01] yo: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MCE_Remote [17:01] !MCEUSB2 | yotux [17:01] yotux: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MCE_Remote [17:01] thankz [17:05] so from my understanding you are recommending that I the remote for windows vista [17:05] or XP [17:06] I have the third one from the left. Very nice [17:06] I got a remote with my notebook for vista [17:07] yotux, maybe it will work then [17:07] I have the same one as tgm4883_laptop, works nicely [17:08] IIRC, most of the devs have that remote [17:09] any idea where to get them from [17:09] tgm4883_laptop I think its hard to find now [17:09] ebay [17:09] but it's even hard on there [17:09] only thing I have seen recently is a 3 pack from buy.com === Timrit is now known as Timrit_away [17:12] yotux, I own www.foxmediasystems.com and I have an MCE remote, however I have not listed any products on my website for public purchase yet [17:12] yotux, if you need one PM me and we can work it out [17:13] jphillip: Still fighting... ;) But You are definitly right with your idea, as now I am working with both tuners I have (PVR-250 + an old bttv-card) Both card cannot switch channels using the same 'Source' on mythtv. [17:16] foxbuntu: dont know how to pm sorry [17:16] yotux, right click my name and "open dialog" [17:16] or /msg foxbuntu [18:15] Anybody know where I can find details on how to get a Hauppauge PVR 150 working with Mythbuntu 8.10? I'm getting "failed to get data for code 0, key 525" when doing an irsend, which, according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lirc/+bug/275549, seems to imply a problem with the codes being sent. Trying to use the blushingpenguin.com lircd.conf gives me a segfault when starting lirc. [18:17] hey people - i've just been through the process of creating a DVD ISO image from some MP4 files in my video library, and now i'm at the log screen, supposedly waiting for it to create the ISO image, but nothing is happening [18:17] any ideas? [18:44] fishsponge_, is nothing in the log or is it just sitting there with a few items in the log? [18:45] there is nothing in the log, and nothing happening when i look at 'top' [18:45] fishsponge_, do you have ffmepg and such installed? [18:45] indeed [18:45] done lots of transcoding manually, so definitely have ffmpeg installed [18:45] and mkisofs [18:45] and growisofs [18:45] k [18:46] video files are currently libx264 video and libfaac audio in a .mp4 file [18:46] and i want to burn them to a DVD to play at a friends house, basically! [18:46] have you looked in the backend log to see what is going on yet? [18:46] nope... don't know where it is! [18:46] /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log [18:47] backend log has nothing in it [18:47] well, nothing related to this! [18:48] i'm running 'tail -f' on it, and since i started the burning process again, nothing has been displayed [18:50] i'm transcoding the videos as follows now, manually: [18:50] ffmpeg -i video.mp4 -sameq video.dvd [18:50] maybe they'll burn bettter? [18:51] better than what? [18:51] better than currently, where nothing seems to work [18:52] and even if mythtv refuses to play ball, i think i can use dvdauthor and mkisofs to make a proper DVD with those files anyway, right? [18:52] have you tried something other than those mp4 files? just to make sure your setup is working? [18:52] fishsponge_, correct, but there is no reason it shouldnt work [18:53] well that's all i have, hence the transcoding :-) [18:54] it's odd to have nothing logged though, it's almost as if it's not even trying [18:55] i think i'm going to give up onn this for tonight... i'm transcoding to dvd, and i shall try dvdauthor and mkisofs tomorrow, once they've transcoded! [18:56] only wanted a simple DVD to be burned, and while i appreciate this software is free etc... and i do want to contribute to making it better, tonight is a night when i don't have the energy, if you know what i mean! [18:56] i appreciate the help as well though... [18:56] and if you can convince me, i may stay on for a short while more... [18:56] but falling asleep slowly! lol [18:56] lol [18:56] go get some sleep, revisit us tomorrow [18:59] lol, will do! [18:59] thanks for yor help though === protonchris_ is now known as protonchris [20:16] has anyone had issues with 9.04 alpha.. I have downloaded the iso(2 differnt comptuers), checksum'ed the image and have burnt now 4 CD's. when i boat off the cds I first run the option to check the CD, and this seems to lock the computer(2 of them). I have also tried to just load the software with out checking the image and it also locks the computer. in ehter case, sometimes it comes back and says the errors in r [20:21] MythbuntuGuest59: please report a bug [21:50] Oh hello [21:50] I wanted some advice [21:51] I'll lay down the story, here, I've got 2 PCs for free, 256 ram, ok processors for Windows 98 computers I guess, basically run of the mill 10 year old office workstations [21:51] I sorta broke MythBuntu by unchecking the wrong service before, I'm about to go reinstall it but I was wondering [21:51] I have 2 of these boxes [21:52] would it be more efficent if one ran the frontend and one ran the backend, with the backend being connected to the external media drive? [21:52] They do sound quite low power [21:52] very low power. [21:53] Myth does need a bit [21:53] on a side note I'm not very familiar with Linux, I just got a replacement new terabyte hard drive I am going to partition off, will MythBuntu deal with NFTS fine or should I use that linux file system [21:57] I'll just keep throwing out various questions while I'm here [22:00] You should use a Linux filesystem [22:00] ..well I guess that is it actually, how do I manage an external drive with mythbuntu, is it automatic or what? And is there a way to create new shared folders without disrupting existing ones? I used shares-admin last time and it suddenly made the various folders I could see shared on the network with my windows computers disappear [22:00] I can't help with Windows. [22:01] What about the idea of using 2 computers, one for a backend and one for a frontend [22:01] is it practical at all or would it be more practical to just use the one [22:01] It may help, I'd say that it's going to be too underpowered for a frontend either way though, [22:02] It worked before really, a touch of lag but nothing that bad.. I can dedicate the entire hard drive for the OS, there are only 10 gigs [22:28] hi..Q: how do i enable logging on mythfrontend 8.04? Thanks. === Timrit_away is now known as Timrit [22:48] since i upgraded to 8.10 it looks like myth has swapped fields on me. I even set live tv to 320 x 240 and I still get interlacing, which i shouldn't get with half frame resolution [22:48] i don't know if it's a myth issue or something related to bttv/v4l [22:48] my tvtuner is a zoltrix tv genie based on the bt 878 chipset [22:48] it has been fine in all previous versions [22:49] and i know it's not a playback issue because old recordings prior to the upgrade playback fine [22:49] anyone else see something similar? [22:49] or is there a way to force field swap? [23:02] (Asking again :) Anybody know where I can find details on how to get a Hauppauge PVR 150 working with Mythbuntu 8.10? I'm getting "failed to get data for code 0, key 525" when doing an irsend, which, according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lirc/+bug/275549, seems to imply a problem with the codes being sent. Trying to use the blushingpenguin.com lircd.conf gives me a segfault when starting lirc. [23:25] laga: i have already reported the bug on bug.launchpad for the 9.04 [23:25] laga: not trying to be short, thanks for your help. === Timrit is now known as Timrit_Dinner