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R1cochetrshakin: did u dl the xubuntu-restricted pack?00:06
R1cochetsupplies all the plugins u need like flash..........00:06
rshakinyeah00:07
rshakini have it in the repo00:08
rshakinsorry driving00:08
R1cochetNo Problem man :)00:08
R1cochetbe carefull00:08
rshakinyeah something about drivng on the freeway at 75 and typing sounds like a bad idea00:10
rshakinshit gas is 199 here... very nice00:11
knome$?00:11
R1cochetwhere?00:11
rshakinso cal00:12
rshakinorange county00:12
R1cocheti think he means $1.9900:12
R1cochetLaughing My Ass Off im in long beach00:12
knomei beat you both00:12
knomei'm in finland00:12
R1cochetread in the paper other day place in pasadena sells gas at 1.7?00:13
R1cochetnice man love finish women, was in europe last year and met some really cool fins00:14
knomei also love a finnish woman ;)00:15
R1cochetrshakin: if u want to get ur screensaver to work u have to add "gnome-screensaver" to auto started apps :)00:16
djbushdioi use xscreensaver00:17
djbushdiooh yeah00:17
NikkeHey when i activate compiz in xubuntu my panel get this opacity? Can i disable that?00:17
R1cochetcheck compiz channel00:18
R1cochetweird i use compiz and dont have that problem00:19
hrabanhi, it's me again00:19
hrabanI reinstalled xubuntu, 8.04 this time00:19
NikkeR1cochet, really?00:19
hrabanbut I didn't manage to install grub00:19
hrabanit failed during installation :/ I installed it through another computer but I have no idea what commands I should give it to load the kernel properly00:19
R1cochetNikke: yea no issue at all. weird i used compiz on 8.04 and 8.10 and never that issue.00:20
NikkeR1cochet, when i put my mouse over the panel i get full opacity00:20
hrabanI got as far as loading the kernel properly but it panics, complaining the root= option is not good. iirc the installer said to give root=/dev/sda1 but that doesn't work >.<00:20
Nikkebut when i move the mouse away from the panel it gets a opacity00:20
R1cochetNikke: i dunno man, check #compiz-fusion00:20
NikkeR1cochet, okey, thanks anyway00:21
NikkeR1cochet, i found it now00:23
Nikkesome settings00:23
Nikkei havent seen in 8.0400:23
hrabanhow can I restore what would initially have been the menu.lst?00:23
NikkeR1cochet, can i remove ubuntu in xubuntu??00:27
Nikkei think i can but forgatt the link00:27
knome!purexfce | Nikke00:27
ubottuNikke: If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce »00:27
Nikkeknome, thaanks00:28
NotADJXubuntu install taking a long trime00:39
p42ggood eve,anyone have any probs lately with any new updates?00:39
p42gstarting this morn my system has been restarting itself00:40
knomeNotADJ, how much RAM do you have?00:40
NotADJ160 :P00:40
p42gim wondering if this is a update isue or pos my system is reading my cpu temp as high?00:40
knomep42g, sounds weird. can you try to run an older kernel and see if the problems disappear?00:40
NotADJAlternate00:40
knomep42g, cpu temp or memory errors are also possible.00:40
p42gim not sure what updates i put in yesterday00:40
NotADJI think it is the CD drive.00:41
NotADJSlow00:41
p42gmemory errors?00:41
knomeNotADJ, that's quite little. it might be the ram00:41
NotADJPossibly.00:41
knomep42g, yes... errors in the physical memory usually lead to random boots.00:41
NotADJ3% now!00:41
NotADJ:D00:41
p42gposisibly one of my sticks is having issues?00:41
knomeNotADJ, good luck. running it might be a little helll00:41
p42gok ill have to try and remove one at a time and see if it helps00:42
knomep42g, yes, possibly. you can run a memcheck from a live cd00:42
NotADJMaybe :D00:42
p42goh ok ill try that first and see what it comes up00:42
NotADJ4%00:42
knomep42g, it might take quite long, but is worth it, imho...00:42
p42gthanks for ur time00:42
knomenp.00:42
NotADJ4++00:43
NotADJ5++00:43
NotADJ:P00:43
knomeok you can stop flooding00:43
NotADJNo problem!00:43
NotADJ!flood > NotADJ00:43
ubottuNotADJ, please see my private message00:43
NotADJThat was stupid, /me stops.00:44
s1amson'lo00:44
knomehello.00:44
s1amsonhi knome00:44
s1amsonknow of anyone thats got xmms::remote to install?00:45
s1amsonor bundle::xmms00:45
knomenot really. do you have problems installing? can you find it in the repos?00:45
s1amsonnope and ive googled since last night00:45
s1amsonkeep getting this error (the skinny version) /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXxf86dga00:46
kaiI been trying to work around this problem, is there anyway to get files of 4gb on Xubuntu?00:47
s1amsonthen it goes on to tell me:   /usr/bin/make -- NOT OK00:47
s1amsonmake is installed propperly however or i wouldnt have got this far00:48
knomes1amson, are you sure it's not a problem with the perl lib?00:48
s1amsonknome, its possible but i have installed bundle::cpan00:49
s1amsonhavent had any other cpan errors00:49
knomekai, hmm? sure?00:49
kaiknome,  what do I need to do?00:50
s1amsonknome, think it may be the makefile.pl thats bad?00:50
knomekai, for me it works ootb00:50
knomes1amson, i have no idea :)00:50
s1amsonthx anyway.00:50
knomenp.00:50
s1amsonkai, what fs are you using?00:50
knomeat least i got the same error00:50
kaiext300:50
s1amsongoogle.com/linux ext3 4gb?00:50
s1amsonive had no problems with it either00:51
s1amsoni use reiserfs though00:51
kaihold on lemme check00:51
NotADJStuck on 6%00:51
s1amsonspeaking of reiser... didnt his wife turn up dead some time ago?00:51
kaiits been a while since I had to do anything with it00:51
knomes1amson, #xubuntu-offtopic ;)00:52
NotADJs1amson: Why is Reiser >00:52
s1amsonsorry, it was a /. from a while back. just crossed my mind, i can google :]00:52
s1amsonNotADJ, im not sure that it is.00:53
dcolishyou guys dont read wired do you?00:53
s1amsonive just never had a problem with file size while using it00:53
s1amsondcolish, when ive read everything else at barnes & noble. which is a rare occasion. ours still gets 260000:54
kaiknome, when I use fdisk it just says linux00:59
kaiSo im not 100% sure00:59
NotADJknome: Would the install be faster if I were to connect it to a Network?00:59
knomeNotADJ, suppose not.01:00
dcolishs1amson: well there was an article about reiser in wired a year ago01:00
NotADJknome: If it is CD only, does it rely more on the CD?01:00
s1amsondcolish, i think knome would prefer we take that to query01:01
knomedcolish, s1amson: #xubuntu-offtopic is a fine place for that :)01:02
s1amsonknome, i got that covered, thx :P01:02
knomehehe01:02
knomeit's not query ;)01:02
s1amsonwhat client? /query knome works just fine in xchat01:02
s1amsonor was that an invite to join another channel01:03
knomes1amson, /join #xubuntu-offtopic01:04
s1amsonapparently so01:04
kaiknome, so you dint have this problem, this sucks. I can't d/l any blu-ray disk or anything01:04
s1amsonif 4gb limit you'd have a hard time downloading a linux dvd too.01:05
knomekai, i haven't heard it would be impossible. sorry.01:05
kaiits odd and frustrating at the same time, what command what I use to actually see the partition type of my devices01:06
kaiFdisk doesn't tell me01:06
s1amsonkai, you can always try to back up what you have (just incase) and use gparted to convert/reformat the partition01:06
kaiwhat what I reformat as then?01:06
s1amsonfdisk is a windows tool innit?01:06
kaino, its a linux tool01:06
s1amsoni wouldnt expect it to tell you much01:06
knomekai, 'mount' shows the fs types.01:07
kaiha, good idea01:07
s1amsonfdisk was in my old school dos01:07
kaiyea its ext301:07
s1amsonjust assumed it was a winders thing01:07
kaiSo I should user resier and I woudn't have this problem01:07
s1amsonkai, i cant promise that you wont, but i dont have that issue with reiser01:08
kaiwhats the diffrence between the 2?01:09
s1amsonim pretty sure that a buddy of mine used ext3 for his /home and hes never complained01:09
s1amsonkai, thats way above my head. i have no clue how a file system works01:09
s1amsonnor do i know anyone that does tbh01:09
knomeok, it's 3:18am here, so good night everybody01:18
s1amsonnight01:19
R1cochetnight knome01:23
kais1amson, its cool Thanx tho01:39
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Mooc1Hello I need some seeders for the 8.04 xubuntu torrent i38602:06
Mooc1can anyone seed the torrent please so I can upgrade?02:07
s1amsoni downloaded from the webby, took 15 minutes.02:08
R1cochetumm why dont u upgrade to 8.10?02:14
deus_vid02:14
deus_vidd02:14
deus_gah02:14
deus_the apic=off isnt working02:14
deus_its still crashing02:14
deus_gah02:15
NotADJInstall Failed02:18
NotADJ:(02:18
s1amsonNotADJ, define failed (sorry im catching up)02:19
s1amsonasking cause i have a sata 202:20
s1amsoni had to switch bios to legacy mode02:20
NotADJs1amson: Red Screen during configure and install software02:21
s1amsondidnt have that issue :\ sry i cant help02:21
NotADJSure :D02:22
NotADJDuring 6%02:22
* NotADJ looks for integrity problem.02:22
s1amsontry burning the disk slower...?02:22
* NotADJ will se if there is one in a minute02:24
NotADJ46% done with check, 0 errors :/02:26
hallyntesting the xubuntu livecd under kvm (xubuntu 8.10), it appears to hang on squashfs with 256M, while it boots fine with 512M02:29
scribawfneed some advice on how to locate/install & run minicom any help?02:33
NotADJIncognito <302:37
NotADJStill Slow :(03:08
The-Kernelhuh?03:08
NotADJ6% -- uuid-runtime03:09
NotADJFOUND IT!03:10
NotADJuuid-runtime - Corrupt, but integrity was fine....03:10
NotADJHmm03:12
NotADJWill have to try again tomorrow.03:12
NotADJmd5sum on iso is fine03:14
NotADJWill try tomorrow,03:14
MalderCan someone help me, I'm trying to figure out how to turn on file and print sharing03:19
likemindeadProbably best to go with Samba.03:22
likemindeadhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba03:22
Malderthanks03:23
likemindeadNo problem. The documentation is very thorough.03:23
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likemindeadReal quiet in here....03:41
R1cochetHELLO! likemindead03:43
likemindeadHow goes it?03:46
R1cochetnot bad, just looking for new emerald themes03:48
R1cochetin terminal how do i navigate to a directory with spaces in the name?04:12
R1cochetlike cd /home/myname/desktop themes04:12
Odd-rationaleR1cochet: cd ~/desktop\ themes04:16
Odd-rationaleor just use tab :P04:16
R1cochetOdd-rationale: thank you so much04:18
Odd-rationalenp04:18
R1cochetahhh tab completion i love it04:19
R1cochetu the man04:19
Odd-rationaleanother solution is "mv desktop\ themes desktop_themes"04:21
R1cocheti too many folders with spaces to start doing that :)04:22
R1cocheti have*04:23
Odd-rationale(yeah, me too... :P )04:23
R1cochetße ßack £ater04:44
Morphohi all, need help ...11:06
Morphosomeone willing ?11:06
Morphothe point is, i cant get GDM starting.11:06
Morphotoc toc11:07
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jxanderhi there... i just installed xfce and pulse audio doesn't start automatically. in gnome, after i login, padevchooser is connected. In xfce i always have to type pulseaudio -D for it to work. any ideas?14:41
ablomenjxander, settings => settings manager => autostarted apps :)14:47
killerbytehello everybody15:01
jxanderablomen, doesn't pulseaudio need some more sophisticated startup? :P15:02
jxanderwell... thanks ablomen :)15:04
killerbytei had this problem before but i cant remember how to fix it15:06
killerbyteyou guys helped me before15:06
killerbytemy xfce4 panel wont stay put15:06
killerbytei have to enter xfce4-panel in terminal for it to appear15:06
killerbyteand i have to keep terminal running15:07
killerbytecan you please tell me how to get it to stay with terminal closed?15:07
killerbytethanks very much15:07
jarnoskillerbyte: Alt-F215:07
killerbytevery good15:08
killerbytejarnos, i hope that stays after next reboot15:09
killerbytethanks though15:09
jarnoskillerbyte: You are welcome. Do you often loose xfce4-panel? Which release are you using?15:11
killerbyteintrepid15:11
killerbytejust happened once before15:11
jarnoskillerbyte: It happened to me too today as I installed Intrepid.15:11
killerbyteunlucky15:12
jarnoskillerbyte: my short report about it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/30199515:13
killerbytejarnos, interesting15:29
killerbytei g2g15:29
killerbytebye15:29
jarnosWhat are the keybindings to use in xfce4-terminal to copy-paste text?15:37
jarnosI made a package list named pl in file and then applied "cat pl | xargs sudo apt-get --assume-yes --force-yes install".15:45
dcolishjarnos: how'd that work out for you?15:46
jarnosProblem is that there was sun-java6-bin included in the list and the execution is paused in license screen.15:46
sorenMind you, there are some gotchas there. If any of the packages in "pl" asks for anything, it gets its response from the same filedescriptor.15:47
jarnosI hope I don't have to download the packages again since it took long time.15:47
sorenjarnos: You won't. That packages will still be there, if you didn't "apt-get clean".15:47
jarnosHow should I quit the paused command?15:49
sorenctrl-c.15:50
jarnossoren: Is there a better way to install packages from a list in a file so that it is more interactive?15:50
sorenjarnos: Yes.15:50
sorenwhile read pkg15:50
sorendo15:50
sorenecho $pkg install15:50
sorendone < pl | sudo dpkg --set-selections15:50
sorensudo dselect install15:50
jarnossoren: I lost cursor by ctrl-c15:52
sorenI'm sure you'll manage without it.15:53
jarnossoren: No. I start a new terminal window/tab15:55
sorenHeh. Ok.15:55
jarnossoren: Shame dselect is not included in default installation, if it is the way to do the job.16:00
jarnossoren: I can't even install it.16:01
jarnosE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)16:01
jarnosE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?16:01
sorenjarnos: Your old apt-get is still running.16:02
sorenKill it.16:02
jarnossoren: I tried by gnome-system-monitor, but it seem gnome-system-monitor killed itself instead :(16:05
sorenI'm kind of busy right now. I'm sure someone else can explain how to kill a process.16:05
jarnossoren: kill -9?16:06
sorenDon't ever kill -9 anything before you've at least tried kill -15 and kill -2 first.16:06
jarnossoren: Thanks for the advice.16:07
jarnosI have apt-get, dpkg, frontend, preinst, whiptail running. I guess they are all there for the original command.16:08
jarnosI hope I don't mess up package management bad time if I kill all those.16:10
sorenIf you don't kill -9 anything, it should all handle it somewhat gracefully.16:14
jarnossoren: The other kills don't work for "apt-get": "bash: kill: (8035) - Operation not permitted"; I did not try to kill the other processes.16:16
sorenYou need to "sudo kill"16:19
sorenapt-get runs as root.16:19
soren(so does dpkg, whiptail, etc. etc., by the way)16:19
jarnossoren: Thanks. Killing apt-get killed the others at once.16:21
sorenIndeed16:22
jarnossoren: I have to run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"16:24
sorenThat would be a good start.16:25
sorenInstead of dselect, you could also:16:25
sorensudo apt-get install `cat pl`16:25
jarnossoren: great, but does pl has to be a single row list?16:28
sorenNo.16:29
jarnossoren: First time I use `- character.16:30
jarnossoren: I suppose it has different meaning thant ' or "16:31
sorenYes.16:32
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jarnossoren: thanks, it worked fine with the apt-get command. (I used it to "reinstall" some packages after upgrade to 8.10.)18:34
jarnosMy xorg.conf is empty after 8.10 installation.19:37
vinnljarnos, it's supposed to be empty :)19:37
ConmiroI need help19:38
jarnosvinnl: So can you change "Virtual" setting elsewhere to enable extended desktop?19:38
vinnljarnos, extended desktop? You mean with multiple desktops?19:39
vinnlConmiro, with what?19:39
Conmirook19:39
ConmiroI am trying to set up my os as a server19:39
ConmiroIve done it with my windows xp using xampp19:39
Conmirobut when I try to go to my IP with ummmm Xubuntu, It won't load19:39
Conmirolocalhost works fine though19:40
vinnlConmiro, are you using XAMPP or the official Apache, PHP and MySQL packages?19:40
Conmiroi downloaded xampp19:40
Conmiroit came with all that19:40
ConmiroIm on xp os right now19:40
vinnlI'd recommend using the official installation (which is also easy to install)19:40
jarnosvinnl: I mean e.g. "xrandr --output VGA --above LVDS"19:40
Conmirowhere is that19:40
vinnlAlso, there's a special server edition of Ubuntu19:40
Conmirooh19:41
ConmiroI need that instead?19:41
ConmiroWell, ive tried server edition and I got installed, But when Booting, I got pae error19:41
Conmirosaid my cpu does not have pae19:41
ConmiroAnyway around this?19:41
vinnlConmiro, if you open Synaptic Package Manager, you can select "Mark Packages by Task" in the Edit menu, from where you can select "LAMP Server" that will install all the required stuff19:41
Conmirouhh19:42
Conmiroin xubuntu?19:42
vinnljarnos, sorry, doesn't mean anything to me :(19:42
ConmiroSHould I get on xubuntu?19:42
vinnlConmiro, yep19:42
Conmirook19:42
Conmirowait ehre k?19:42
vinnlSure19:42
vinnlThough,19:42
jarnosvinnl: I mean a desktop that continues from one display to another.19:45
jarnosvinnl: Currently the command gives (provided both outputs are on): xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1360x1360 (desired size 1280x1568)19:46
vinnljarnos, I'm only using one screen myself... All I know is that it's normal that xorg.conf is empty with the new version and that most stuff is supposed to be autoconfigured now19:46
dcolishjarnos: you need to set your screen size in your xorg19:47
jarnosdcolish: ok.19:48
jarnosI read somewhere that "InputDevice" sections are omitted. But I had a hack there for 8.04 for keyboard: "Option          "XkbOptions"    "nbsp:none"  # Makes all space-like normal whitespace"19:51
jarnosHow do you do it in 8.10?19:51
dcolishjarnos: same way you'd do it in 8.04. you have screen section that you have to define the max size you want19:52
jarnosdcolish: I mean the keyboard thing.19:53
dcolishjarnos: you'll need to look at fdi files in the ubuntu wiki19:54
jarnosdcolish: fdi?19:55
dcolishjust google it19:55
ConmiroEnter text here...sorry20:02
ConmiroI installed all 4 suggestions cause I didint think it was working20:02
ConmiroI didint know had to restart browser20:03
Conmirovinnl?20:03
vinnlConmiro, ?20:03
Conmiroyes20:03
ConmiroIm on xubuntu now20:03
vinnlWhich 4 suggestions?20:03
Conmiroplugins20:03
Conmiroto install20:03
Conmirohad to install java20:03
dfgrsdrsghey, anyone here using an external RAID 1 harddisk? can this raid(controller?) run ext3?20:04
ConmiroAm I the only one that sees the watermake on the chat screen?????20:04
Conmirotry looking at the screen from a angle20:04
vinnlConmiro, which application are you using?20:04
Conmirofirefox20:05
vinnlFor chat?20:05
Conmirofifrefox20:05
Conmirooh20:05
Conmirojava 620:05
vinnlJava is not a chat application20:05
Conmiroidk20:05
Conmiro:(20:05
Conmirogogloom.com irc20:05
Conmirois that what u mean?20:05
vinnlProbably20:05
vinnlThen that site is to blame20:05
jxanderhow do i browse the local network in xfce?20:06
Conmirolol20:06
Conmirolocalhost20:06
Conmiroenter that in browser20:06
Conmiroif you want other people to be able to access it, stick with me and vinnl20:06
Conmirooh20:06
Conmirovinnl20:06
vinnljxander, you mean with Samba? I have no experience with that, but Google helps, or so I've heard20:06
Conmirois there a way to get more than 2 workspaces?20:06
jxanderyeah... samba20:06
jarnosNow I can't even quit xubuntu: "Quitting the session requires that Xfce's session manager (xfce4-session) is running, but it was not detected.  Please quit Xfce via another means." xfce4-session is running anyway. BTW: This happened earlier today so I had to start xfce4-panel again by Alt-F2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/30199520:06
Conmiroo.o20:07
Conmirotry system montiro to manually shut down20:07
vinnlConmiro, try "Workspaces and margins" from the Settings Manager20:07
Conmirokk20:07
Conmirothanks20:07
Conmiroomg freakin awesome20:08
Conmiroglad I made my swap space 4gb!!!!20:08
Conmirook20:08
Conmironow20:08
Conmirofor my earlier question20:08
ConmiroHow I make localhost public20:08
jarnosConmiro: How do you shut down by System Monitor?20:09
Conmiroi opened synpaptic packagemanager20:09
Conmirolook for it and press terminate20:09
Conmiroor kill process20:09
vinnljarnos, System Monitor is not for shutting down20:10
Conmirooh I think hes talking about shutting down a program20:10
vinnl^.^20:10
ConmiroThats what i though20:10
Conmirot20:10
Conmirovinnl20:10
Conmirowhat package I install?20:10
vinnlConmiro, in the edit menu, select "Mark Packages by Task"20:11
vinnlThen select "LAMP Server"20:11
Conmirook20:11
dfgrsdrsganyone having experiences using ntfs-3g ? if so, good or bad?20:11
Conmirook20:11
Conmiroinstalling20:11
vinnldfgrsdrsg, I've heard good things about it :P20:11
dfgrsdrsgoh thanks :)20:12
Conmirook20:12
Conmiroi think i installed20:12
Conmironow what20:13
Conmirowwait20:13
Conmiro19 packages?20:13
Conmiroi only selected one20:13
Conmirowhats going on20:13
vinnlConmiro, those are Apache, PHP, etc20:13
Conmirooh ok20:13
Conmiroshould i delete my existing xampp files?20:14
Conmiroits not giving me the option too.....20:14
Conmiro:(20:14
Conmirohmmmmmmmmmmm20:14
vinnlConmiro, well, it shouldn't be running, I suppose20:15
Conmirowhats sudo command to delete?20:15
vinnlConmiro, this is probably also useful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP20:15
vinnlI don't know, you installed it20:15
Conmiro:(20:15
Conmiroits fine20:15
vinnlDid you even need to install XAMPP? I didn't think so20:16
Conmiroil just continue with installation20:16
Conmiroidk20:16
Conmirodownloading package files and then installing :d20:16
Conmirois xubuntu a good os to be running as a server?20:16
Conmirois it fast and effecient?20:17
Conmirovinnl can you help me with remote desktop feature?20:17
vinnlConmiro, sorry :(20:18
Conmirook20:18
Conmirofor what20:18
vinnlThe remote desktop20:18
Conmirook20:18
ConmiroHow I increase download speed? its only at 100kbps I usually get around 500kbps... And im supposed to get 11mbps....20:19
Conmironow its at 80kbps20:19
Conmirolol my friend said swap space is good for hiding stuff from parents20:19
Conmirolol20:19
Conmirovinnl?20:20
ConmiroHow I fix montitor display?20:20
ConmiroI have a extended montior I use as a primary connected to my latop20:20
Conmiroand it cuts off the recycle bin at left bottom20:20
vinnlPerhaps you need to adjust your monitor settings with the buttons on it?20:21
Conmiroyea20:21
Conmiroit cant zoom out20:21
vinnlNo but perhaps it's under your monitor's edge or something, so you could pan or scale it20:22
Conmirofound it20:22
vinnlOh good20:22
Conmirodisplay manager20:22
Conmiro:D20:22
vinnl\o/20:22
Conmiro?20:23
Conmiroweve got a problem20:23
Conmiromy taskbar is gone20:23
vinnlPress Alt+F2, then run "xfce4-panel"20:23
Conmiroback20:30
ConmiroNEVER EDIT MONTIOR SETTINGS20:30
Conmirolol it screwed up20:31
Conmirook20:31
Conmiroi finished installing stuff20:31
Conmironow what20:31
vinnl:P20:31
vinnlNow you should be able to browse localhost and see "It works!" (you might have to restart first)20:31
vinnlOh wait, "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start" should work as well if it's not started yet20:31
Conmiroive always been able to browse localhost.....20:31
vinnlConmiro, yes, but now you can do it using properly installed software20:32
ConmiroI need other people to be able to access it20:32
Conmirook.20:32
Conmiroscreen popped up saying "IT works!"20:32
Conmirowhere is home dir at20:32
vinnlConmiro, you mean where you place a website's files? In /var/www/20:33
Conmirook20:33
Conmirohow can other people access it20:33
vinnlI'd check the link above for that20:33
vinnlhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP20:33
Conmirowill u stay here incase?20:33
vinnlYeah but I don't actually have experience making this public20:34
vinnlBut someone else here probably has :)20:34
Conmirook20:36
Conmirobind-address           = 192.168.1.220:36
Conmirosome command20:36
Conmirohelp20:39
ConmiroHELP20:40
Conmiroit says I dont have access to certain files20:40
ConmiroIM A ADMIN!!!20:40
knomeplease calm down20:40
Conmirook20:41
Conmirocan u help me?20:41
sorenYou haven't asked a question.20:41
sorenWe can't help people without questions.20:41
Conmiroyes20:41
vinnlConmiro, by the way, why do you want other people to access it?20:41
ConmiroHow do I get access to ALL files?20:41
Conmiroyes20:42
Conmiroim running a website20:42
Conmirooff of my computer20:42
vinnlI'm not sure if that's wise20:42
Conmiroit is20:42
ConmiroIve done is using windows xp20:42
Conmiroit works great20:42
Conmirotrust me20:42
vinnlYeah it works, but is it safe?20:42
dcolishConmiro: get a virtual slice20:42
ConmiroWhat u mean20:42
Conmiroit is safe20:42
vinnlWell, you *are* giving other people access to your machine, and if you don't know exactly how it works...20:43
Conmirono20:43
Conmirothey only have access to that directory20:43
=== danopia_ is now known as danpoia
=== danpoia is now known as danopia
Conmirowell?20:44
Conmiroguys?20:45
Conmirovirtual slice?20:45
Conmirojust now saw that20:46
ConmiroEnter text herwhats e...20:47
Conmirowhats virtual slice20:47
Conmiro?20:48
dcolishlinode.net, slicehost.com, etc, etc20:48
dcolishits a vm instance that you own.20:48
Conmirovirtual machine?20:49
Conmirois it easy?20:49
Conmirowill it work on xubuntu?20:49
dcolishConmiro: either way you should read up on firewalls if you're hosting your own public apache server20:49
Conmiroive got a few20:49
Conmiromy router cost $100, its very good20:49
Conmirowireless n with extreme firewall20:49
dcolishhehe :)20:49
Conmiro?20:49
Conmirocompatible speeds of up to 350mbps wireless20:50
knomemy router cost >100¤ and it sucks20:50
Conmiro1000mbps wired20:50
Conmirook.20:50
ConmiroMabey ur network card doesint support its full power.....20:50
knomeit does and the router is good and works as needed20:50
knomebut still it sucks20:50
Conmirook.....20:50
Conmiroantway20:50
Conmirodcolish20:50
dcolishthis has almost nothing to do with the topic so i'll be brief. you should not host a production site out of your house unless you can support 4-5 9's20:50
knomeand your 100 buck router isn't any better if you don't know how to use it properly20:50
ConmiroI do20:51
ConmiroIm smart20:51
Conmiroset on mutli channel20:51
Conmiroand set to wireless g mode, cause my computer doesint support N sadly....20:51
Conmirogetting N card soon20:51
ConmiroAnyway back on topic20:52
Conmiro4-5 9s?20:52
Conmiroexcuse me?20:52
ConmiroJust let me do what im doing and please help me20:52
ConmiroI accept the dangers and w/e stuff....20:53
ConmiroIv'e aready done it on my windows xp os20:53
Conmirobut i wana use xubuntu because It's faster.20:53
dcolishConmiro: you want me to tell that you're planning something smart, I wont. Besides for apache hosting xubuntu is not the ideal distro20:54
Conmiro.....20:55
ConmiroYou know what?20:55
ConmiroAre you saying its better to run it off of windows xp as I was?20:55
Conmirodcolish how old do you think I am?20:55
ConmiroHi Ahmuck20:56
dcolishConmiro: certainly not, but why not use something without an xserver?20:56
Conmirolike what?20:56
dcolishubuntu server20:56
Conmiromy computer won't boot that20:56
Conmirosaid I don't have pae on my cpu20:56
ConmiroI've aready tried to install it, but fails at boot20:56
ConmiroSo I deleted..20:56
Conmirodoes xubuntu have a partion cp?20:57
ConmiroI need to shrink my xubuntu install partition if I'm gonna re-attempt ubuntu server if you have a way to fix the pae error.20:58
ConmiroYou got a way to fix the error?20:58
Conmirohi anubis20:59
anubisHi20:59
anubisCan someone help me with a sound driver issue with winamp ?20:59
Conmirowinamp?20:59
ConmiroSorry, I can't20:59
vinnlanubis, Winamp on Xubuntu? Does that run?21:00
knomeanubis, do you mean xmms?21:00
ConmiroI didin't think it did....21:00
knomehi vinnl o/21:00
Conmirovinnl21:00
vinnlHey knome  :)21:00
Conmiropls help me21:00
Conmirodcolish left I think21:01
vinnlConmiro, sorry, I've said all I know :(21:01
Conmirook21:01
Conmirohow u pming people?21:01
Conmiroive attempted the private command but its not working21:01
anubisWinamp does run well on Xubuntu21:01
jxanderi've got a dual-head setup with my laptop lcd and an external lcd. i really love how xubuntu handles the two screens, except i don't know how to change from one screen to the other from the keyboard without using the mouse. how could i do this? also, where do i set keyboard shortcuts to multimedia keys on my laptop to be able to control the media player?21:01
knomeConmiro, pinging isn't really polite21:01
vinnlConmiro, type /msg <nick>21:01
Conmiropinging??21:01
ConmiroI havent pinged one person today21:01
knomeaha pming...21:02
knomek21:02
knomesorry for my misreading21:02
anubisI can't get any sound out of it.21:02
Conmirohmmm21:02
knomejxander, for the multimedia keys go to settings manager -> keyboard -> tab shortcuts21:02
Conmirowhy isint pinging polite?21:02
Conmirojust wondering...21:02
jxanderknome, thanks... any ideas for the screen switching?21:03
knomejxander, not really. i needed that myself but haven't had time to look out for the answer.21:03
knomejxander, give me a few minutes and i'll try to google21:03
ConmiroCan anyone help me with "Ubuntu Server" Install?21:04
knomeConmiro, try #ubuntu21:04
vinnlOr #ubuntu-server21:04
Conmirook21:04
Conmirojoin21:04
Conmirooops21:04
jxanderknome, hope you'll have greater luck21:04
Conmirois there live cd for ubuntu server?21:05
knomejxander, http://www.ishiboo.com/~nirva/Projects/xwarppointer/21:13
Conmirook21:13
Conmiromy server seems to be down.....21:13
jxanderknome, so... command to move the cursor from one to another, right?21:14
jxandercool21:14
jxanderthanks21:14
knomejxander, you can move the cursor with that app, yes21:14
knomejxander, but it needs a bit tweaking21:14
ConmiroI cant load my server21:14
Conmirothats wierd21:14
jxanderknome, do you happen to know what handles the multimedia shortcuts in gnome and if there is an alternative for xfce... i see that i need to give a command for the associated play, pause shortcuts. is dbus the answer?21:18
knomegnome? not really.21:19
jxanderi mean, could i do that with dbus?21:20
knomei don't know. sorry21:20
jxandernp21:20
jxander:D21:20
vinnlI believe something like that recently came up in some mailnglist or another21:20
jxanderis there a samba browser? i've installed the sharing part i think, but i don't know what package i need to be able to browse others... :-s21:23
vinnlOK never minder that, that was something else21:23
vinnlOff the top of my head, I've read about PyNeighbourhood21:24
vinnl(Or PyNeighborhood, I don't know)21:24
jxandersounds sambaish... thanks :)21:24
jarnosFonts are odd-sized now in 8.10, Volume control is gone.21:33
jxandervolume control? what do you mean?21:41
jarnosjxander: a panel item.21:44
knomejxander, did you get the xwarppointer working?21:44
jxanderstill battling with samba :(... xwarppointer is coming up next...21:45
jxanderjarnos, btw, is there something like subpixel smoothing like in gnome for xfce?21:47
jarnosjxander: not that I know.21:48
jarnosBut can somebody explain why font size so big in my panel but small in xfce-setting-show21:50
jarnosjxander: Try checking "User interface" in xfce-setting-show21:52
jxanderjarnos, did that... but still, not the same look as in gnome... :(... do you use fglrx? i had the font problem after installed the restricted drivers :P... had to increase some sizes... don't know if it's a coincidence or what though :P21:53
jarnoshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=625086521:54
jxanderyou still can't logout? or is it working?21:56
jarnosjxander: I can logout.22:01
jxanderjarnos, sweet :P22:01
jxandercool feature, right? :))22:01
Adamagichello?22:07
Adamagiccan someone help me with Ubuntu?22:07
jarnosAdamagic: Preferably Xubuntu here ;)22:08
knome!persistentusb22:08
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about persistentusb22:08
knome!persistent22:08
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about persistent22:08
Adamagicuh...yeah.. I dont even know the difference22:08
Adamagicwhich chatroom should I go to?22:09
knomeAdamagic, #ubuntu is for all Ubuntu distros22:10
Adamagicthanks22:11
jarnosjxander: Yes, I like using it occasionally.22:17
jxander:)22:17
* NotADJ 's install is slow as hell...22:26
NotADJ2%22:28
NotADJPlease wait...22:28
NotADJ3%22:31
knomeNotADJ, ok you can stop flooding again.22:31
NotADJknome: It is stuck on 6%, once again, different CD!22:37
NotADJ:P22:37
NotADJUrgh22:39
NotADJknome: What shall I do?>22:40
knomebuy more ram.22:40
NotADJ:P22:40
NotADJknome: Old computer, not worth it.22:40
knomebuy a new one.22:40
NotADJ9_922:41
knomewe can't promise working environment with that little ram.22:41
knomeyou can use the minimal installation if you want22:41
knome!minimal22:41
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD22:41
knomebut still i don't promise you a working X environment22:42
jxanderNotADJ: how much ram do you have?22:42
NotADJjxander: 160 MB22:43
NotADJknome: Command Line Gentoo workded :P22:43
tomaustinhi. i have installed cli version of ubuntu 8.10 ppc alternate onto an ibook g3. i then isntalled xubuntu-desktop and gdm22:43
knomeNotADJ, yes, command line ubuntu *will* work22:43
NotADJtomaustin: Cool, nd?22:43
tomaustinonce im logged in and open an application, the app tries to load.. then just doesnt open!22:43
tomaustinany ideas?22:43
NotADJknome: I know.22:43
knomeNotADJ, just use the minimal installation.22:43
tomaustinand open an application*22:44
NotADJknome: xfce??22:44
tomaustinanyone have any idea why apps will try to load and then just disapear?22:46
NotADJtomaustin: xserver misconfiguration?22:46
knomeNotADJ, xfce is not command line.22:46
tomaustinnotadj, how do i check that?22:46
jarnosNotADJ: Try Ubuntulite http://u-lite.org/?q=node/12522:47
NotADJknome: Does minimal use xfce?22:47
knometomaustin, try to run an app from terminal and see what output it gives22:47
NotADJtomaustin: I forget :P22:47
NotADJknome: Will terminal open?22:47
NotADJ:P22:47
NotADJknome: I know22:47
knomeNotADJ, not by default. and as i said, even with minimal i can't guarantee xfce would work. it is *the same os* with no extra packages installed22:48
jarnosknome: What are those extra packages?22:48
knomexorg, gui apps, ...22:49
knomejarnos, there's nothing but the basic CLI22:49
NotADJCool22:50
tomaustin<NotADJ> ill give it a go22:51
Odd-rationalei got ubuntu+lxde on a friend's machine that has 128mb of ram...22:51
Odd-rationaleit can do basic stuff like tuxpaint, gcompris, wormux, etc...22:52
knomeOdd-rationale, must be freaking slow? ;)22:52
Odd-rationalepII or something...22:52
Odd-rationaleor was it a pIII.... i don't remember...22:53
nyczi want to install dillo 2.0 on xubuntu 8.04, which one of these debs should i use? http://misc.andi.de1.cc/dillo/23:02
Odd-rationale!info dillo23:03
ubottudillo (source: dillo): Small and fast web browser. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.6-3 (intrepid), package size 408 kB, installed size 1140 kB23:03
nyczOdd-rationale: yes i know, 0.8.6 is in the repos, but i want version 2 :/23:05
Odd-rationaleyeah, just checkin...23:06
Odd-rationalei would just get the same one as your architect... i don't think it will really matter if you get lenny or etch...23:06
nyczok, thanks23:07
tomaustinhi. whenever i try to open any application in ubuntu 8.10 running xfce on ibook g3.. it thinks about it and then just doesnt do anything! any ideas?23:07
Odd-rationaletomaustin: try running the command from a terminal? and checking the output?23:08
tomaustini cant get terminal.. i could get one from the failsafe session tho23:08
tomaustinodd-rationale i get segmentation fault on thunar23:09
Odd-rationaleare you running ppc version?23:10
tomaustin<Odd-rationale> yes23:11
tomaustinthe ppc 8.10 alternate cli install23:11
tomaustinthen instlled xubuntu-desktop and gdm23:11
Odd-rationaletomaustin: have you tried #ubuntu-ppc ?23:11
Odd-rationale!ppc23:12
tomaustinthanks23:12
ubottuPowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ23:12
Odd-rationaleit is not *officially* supported...23:12
Odd-rationalesorry, #ubuntu-powerpc23:12
Odd-rationaletomaustin: ^23:13
tomaustin:)23:13
MoochAre there enough seeders seeding Xubuntu 8.04 iso i386 altern.23:16
Moochknome any seeders U know of?23:18
knomenope.23:18
Odd-rationaleMooch: i'll start seeding for a bit...23:18
Moochyeah please I gotta get this pc upgraded23:19
knomeMooch, how much do you have left?23:19
Odd-rationaleoh wait... i only have 8.10...23:19
Odd-rationalesorry...23:19
MoochI am at barely 10%23:19
knomeah23:19
MoochI downloaded all last night23:20
knomeMooch, did you ask for help at the mailing list?23:20
Moochbut with dial up23:20
Moochnot yet23:20
knomeor was it somebody else23:20
knomeok, so where do you live?23:20
MoochMississippi23:20
knomeok, you might send a mail to the xubuntu-users mailing list and ask whether somebody could send you a cd there23:21
knomebecause that's just happened, it will probably be quicker that way23:21
Moochyeah I saw some websites offering to sell for like $1.9523:21
knomei suppose you can get one for free if you ask nicely on the ML23:22
Moochwhat's the website for the mailing list23:22
knomehttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users23:23
Moochlet me bookmark and I'll send them an email23:23
knomeyeah, and good luck.23:23
MoochI am gonna need it23:24
Moochif you know of any seeders please ask them if they could to seed the 8.04 altern. i38623:25
Moochthanks knome I appreciate it23:25
NotADJknome: Minimal CD stuck on same 6%!23:25
NotADJWhat the hell.23:25
knomeyou're welcome. if it looks like you're not getting a cd i can seed for you.23:26
NotADJ!language | NotADJ23:26
ubottuNotADJ, please see my private message23:26
NotADJ:P23:26
Moochgreat knome I'll let you know thanks bud23:26
NotADJStupid Ubuntu23:26
sinboxI can sell you a shrinkwrap copy of windows Me if you want NotADJ it should work23:28
NotADJsinbox: I'd prefer to use Gentoo CLI, actually :P23:29
sinboxnot surprised I must say23:29
NotADJ:D23:29
NotADJMy NIC is flashing, so I'll wait a bigt23:30
NotADJUntil it fails23:30
knomeNotADJ, so tell me, *why don't you* ?23:30
NotADJknome: Don't what?23:31
knomeuse gentoo cli, if you prefer that?23:31
NotADJknome: I'd like a desktop.23:31
sinboxhow low powered is your machine?23:32
knomego into a furniture store then23:32
knomeNotADJ, how do you suppose ubuntu is any lighter than gentoo?23:32
sinboxyou could go with fluxbox or something similar instead of a "proper" desktop NotADJ23:33
NotADJknome: Gentoo was what *was* on this computer, I have a Debian Server, and a Ubuntu Desktop (And a Fedora VM)23:33
NotADJIs there a way to make the installer verbose?23:34
knomeNotADJ, yes? i still don't see why you want to change away from something you prefer.23:34
NotADJknome: I'd prefer xubuntu over CLI only...23:35
knomeNotADJ, then you might have to buy some more ram. ok?23:35
nyczanyone here who knows a good lightweight filebrowser?23:36
knomenycz, isn't thunar lightweight enough?23:36
sinboxfor free RAM check your local freecycle or similar group23:36
NotADJ9_923:36
NotADJIT MOVED!23:36
NotADJLol23:36
nyczknome: faster is much better :/ i feel like im running with full ram and swap all the time23:37
NotADJnycz: Kernel Buffers do that23:37
Odd-rationalenycz: i use mc23:37
knomenycz, you can check with top if it's thunar what is eating it23:37
nyczNotADJ: kernel buffers?23:37
nyczOdd-rationale: midnight commander?23:37
Odd-rationalenycz: yeah23:37
NotADJYeah23:38
nyczknome: hm23:38
NotADJhttp://phpsysinfo.sourceforge.net/phpsysinfo-dev/?template=classic23:38
knomeyou don't need phpsysinfo to look at what is going on23:39
knomeit will just eat the resources more23:39
nyczwell then while we're at it, anyone knows a lightweight web browser?23:39
NotADJknome: Kernel Buffers o_o23:39
knomenycz, epiphany / midori (@ testing stage)23:40
Odd-rationalenycz: elinks?23:40
nyczOdd-rationale: isnt that only textbased?23:40
NotADJnetcat/telnet :D23:40
nyczknome: will check out23:40
TheSheepnycz: there is a plugin that displays images23:40
Odd-rationalenycz: yup!23:40
TheSheepw3m has such a plugin too23:40
knomeTheSheep, images of sheep?23:40
NotADJtelnet google.com 8023:40
Odd-rationalei hear that dillo is pretty fast as well...23:40
NotADJGET http://....23:40
TheSheepknome: mainly, yes23:40
knomea-ha ok23:41
knomethanks for information23:41
TheSheepNotADJ: that's a malformed request already23:41
NotADJTheSheep: Argh!23:41
NotADJ:P23:41
nyczwould you people happen to know if midori is faster than firefox?23:41
TheSheep!info w3m-img23:42
ubottuw3m-img (source: w3m): inline image extension support utilities for w3m. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.2-2build1 (intrepid), package size 94 kB, installed size 164 kB23:42
NotADJWow.23:42
NotADJI forgot that there is no soundcard in this PC23:42
NotADJOld23:42
nyczNotADJ: welcome to the club (almost)23:42
NotADJ:D23:42
nyczNotADJ: i have three possible soundcards for this comp... only one works, and thats partially23:43
NotADJ:P23:43
nyczwell, sitting on a quite old computer really redefines the word "fast" ._.23:44
knomenycz, it is.23:44
nyczknome: very nice :D no more bloatfox23:45
knomenycz, even epiphany is23:45
nyczhm23:45
nyczhow do i see memory usage?23:45
nyczi tried gnome's system monitor but it filled half my ram :S23:46
TheSheepnycz: system->system monitor23:46
nyczohhhhnonono23:46
TheSheepterminal -> free23:46
nyczah23:46
nycz:)23:46
TheSheepalso top23:46
nyczouch23:47
nyczvlc takes 12% of my cpu23:47
nyczand firefox takes 40% of my memory :(23:47
TheSheepsounds about right23:49
nyczhm23:50
nyczwhy is something i xkilled still active in top?23:51
NotADJnycz: killall -K KILL <process>23:51
nyczoh ok23:51
NotADJOh my..23:53
nyczthat didn't work :S23:53
nyczNotADJ: ?23:53
NotADJIt seems as if my install has paused.23:53
nycz:S23:54
knomenycz, kill -s kill [pid]23:54
NotADJIr started again!23:55
NotADJW00t23:55
nyczhm23:59

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