[00:06] rshakin: did u dl the xubuntu-restricted pack? [00:06] supplies all the plugins u need like flash.......... [00:07] yeah [00:08] i have it in the repo [00:08] sorry driving [00:08] No Problem man :) [00:08] be carefull [00:10] yeah something about drivng on the freeway at 75 and typing sounds like a bad idea [00:11] shit gas is 199 here... very nice [00:11] $? [00:11] where? [00:12] so cal [00:12] orange county [00:12] i think he means $1.99 [00:12] Laughing My Ass Off im in long beach [00:12] i beat you both [00:12] i'm in finland [00:13] read in the paper other day place in pasadena sells gas at 1.7? [00:14] nice man love finish women, was in europe last year and met some really cool fins [00:15] i also love a finnish woman ;) [00:16] rshakin: if u want to get ur screensaver to work u have to add "gnome-screensaver" to auto started apps :) [00:17] i use xscreensaver [00:17] oh yeah [00:17] Hey when i activate compiz in xubuntu my panel get this opacity? Can i disable that? [00:18] check compiz channel [00:19] weird i use compiz and dont have that problem [00:19] hi, it's me again [00:19] I reinstalled xubuntu, 8.04 this time [00:19] R1cochet, really? [00:19] but I didn't manage to install grub [00:19] it failed during installation :/ I installed it through another computer but I have no idea what commands I should give it to load the kernel properly [00:20] Nikke: yea no issue at all. weird i used compiz on 8.04 and 8.10 and never that issue. [00:20] R1cochet, when i put my mouse over the panel i get full opacity [00:20] I got as far as loading the kernel properly but it panics, complaining the root= option is not good. iirc the installer said to give root=/dev/sda1 but that doesn't work >.< [00:20] but when i move the mouse away from the panel it gets a opacity [00:20] Nikke: i dunno man, check #compiz-fusion [00:21] R1cochet, okey, thanks anyway [00:23] R1cochet, i found it now [00:23] some settings [00:23] i havent seen in 8.04 [00:23] how can I restore what would initially have been the menu.lst? [00:27] R1cochet, can i remove ubuntu in xubuntu?? [00:27] i think i can but forgatt the link [00:27] !purexfce | Nikke [00:27] Nikke: If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » [00:28] knome, thaanks [00:39] Xubuntu install taking a long trime [00:39] good eve,anyone have any probs lately with any new updates? [00:40] starting this morn my system has been restarting itself [00:40] NotADJ, how much RAM do you have? [00:40] 160 :P [00:40] im wondering if this is a update isue or pos my system is reading my cpu temp as high? [00:40] p42g, sounds weird. can you try to run an older kernel and see if the problems disappear? [00:40] Alternate [00:40] p42g, cpu temp or memory errors are also possible. [00:40] im not sure what updates i put in yesterday [00:41] I think it is the CD drive. [00:41] Slow [00:41] memory errors? [00:41] NotADJ, that's quite little. it might be the ram [00:41] Possibly. [00:41] p42g, yes... errors in the physical memory usually lead to random boots. [00:41] 3% now! [00:41] :D [00:41] posisibly one of my sticks is having issues? [00:41] NotADJ, good luck. running it might be a little helll [00:42] ok ill have to try and remove one at a time and see if it helps [00:42] p42g, yes, possibly. you can run a memcheck from a live cd [00:42] Maybe :D [00:42] oh ok ill try that first and see what it comes up [00:42] 4% [00:42] p42g, it might take quite long, but is worth it, imho... [00:42] thanks for ur time [00:42] np. [00:43] 4++ [00:43] 5++ [00:43] :P [00:43] ok you can stop flooding [00:43] No problem! [00:43] !flood > NotADJ [00:43] NotADJ, please see my private message [00:44] That was stupid, /me stops. [00:44] 'lo [00:44] hello. [00:44] hi knome [00:45] know of anyone thats got xmms::remote to install? [00:45] or bundle::xmms [00:45] not really. do you have problems installing? can you find it in the repos? [00:45] nope and ive googled since last night [00:46] keep getting this error (the skinny version) /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXxf86dga [00:47] I been trying to work around this problem, is there anyway to get files of 4gb on Xubuntu? [00:47] then it goes on to tell me: /usr/bin/make -- NOT OK [00:48] make is installed propperly however or i wouldnt have got this far [00:48] s1amson, are you sure it's not a problem with the perl lib? [00:49] knome, its possible but i have installed bundle::cpan [00:49] havent had any other cpan errors [00:49] kai, hmm? sure? [00:50] knome, what do I need to do? [00:50] knome, think it may be the makefile.pl thats bad? [00:50] kai, for me it works ootb [00:50] s1amson, i have no idea :) [00:50] thx anyway. [00:50] np. [00:50] kai, what fs are you using? [00:50] at least i got the same error [00:50] ext3 [00:50] google.com/linux ext3 4gb? [00:51] ive had no problems with it either [00:51] i use reiserfs though [00:51] hold on lemme check [00:51] Stuck on 6% [00:51] speaking of reiser... didnt his wife turn up dead some time ago? [00:51] its been a while since I had to do anything with it [00:52] s1amson, #xubuntu-offtopic ;) [00:52] s1amson: Why is Reiser > [00:52] sorry, it was a /. from a while back. just crossed my mind, i can google :] [00:53] NotADJ, im not sure that it is. [00:53] you guys dont read wired do you? [00:53] ive just never had a problem with file size while using it [00:54] dcolish, when ive read everything else at barnes & noble. which is a rare occasion. ours still gets 2600 [00:59] knome, when I use fdisk it just says linux [00:59] So im not 100% sure [00:59] knome: Would the install be faster if I were to connect it to a Network? [01:00] NotADJ, suppose not. [01:00] s1amson: well there was an article about reiser in wired a year ago [01:00] knome: If it is CD only, does it rely more on the CD? [01:01] dcolish, i think knome would prefer we take that to query [01:02] dcolish, s1amson: #xubuntu-offtopic is a fine place for that :) [01:02] knome, i got that covered, thx :P [01:02] hehe [01:02] it's not query ;) [01:02] what client? /query knome works just fine in xchat [01:03] or was that an invite to join another channel [01:04] s1amson, /join #xubuntu-offtopic [01:04] apparently so [01:04] knome, so you dint have this problem, this sucks. I can't d/l any blu-ray disk or anything [01:05] if 4gb limit you'd have a hard time downloading a linux dvd too. [01:05] kai, i haven't heard it would be impossible. sorry. [01:06] its odd and frustrating at the same time, what command what I use to actually see the partition type of my devices [01:06] Fdisk doesn't tell me [01:06] kai, you can always try to back up what you have (just incase) and use gparted to convert/reformat the partition [01:06] what what I reformat as then? [01:06] fdisk is a windows tool innit? [01:06] no, its a linux tool [01:06] i wouldnt expect it to tell you much [01:07] kai, 'mount' shows the fs types. [01:07] ha, good idea [01:07] fdisk was in my old school dos [01:07] yea its ext3 [01:07] just assumed it was a winders thing [01:07] So I should user resier and I woudn't have this problem [01:08] kai, i cant promise that you wont, but i dont have that issue with reiser [01:09] whats the diffrence between the 2? [01:09] im pretty sure that a buddy of mine used ext3 for his /home and hes never complained [01:09] kai, thats way above my head. i have no clue how a file system works [01:09] nor do i know anyone that does tbh [01:18] ok, it's 3:18am here, so good night everybody [01:19] night [01:23] night knome [01:39] s1amson, its cool Thanx tho === hraban is now known as b4|hraban === b4|hraban is now known as hraban === hraban is now known as b4|hraban [02:06] Hello I need some seeders for the 8.04 xubuntu torrent i386 [02:07] can anyone seed the torrent please so I can upgrade? [02:08] i downloaded from the webby, took 15 minutes. [02:14] umm why dont u upgrade to 8.10? [02:14] vid [02:14] vidd [02:14] gah [02:14] the apic=off isnt working [02:14] its still crashing [02:15] gah [02:18] Install Failed [02:18] :( [02:19] NotADJ, define failed (sorry im catching up) [02:20] asking cause i have a sata 2 [02:20] i had to switch bios to legacy mode [02:21] s1amson: Red Screen during configure and install software [02:21] didnt have that issue :\ sry i cant help [02:22] Sure :D [02:22] During 6% [02:22] * NotADJ looks for integrity problem. [02:22] try burning the disk slower...? [02:24] * NotADJ will se if there is one in a minute [02:26] 46% done with check, 0 errors :/ [02:29] testing the xubuntu livecd under kvm (xubuntu 8.10), it appears to hang on squashfs with 256M, while it boots fine with 512M [02:33] need some advice on how to locate/install & run minicom any help? [02:37] Incognito <3 [03:08] Still Slow :( [03:08] huh? [03:09] 6% -- uuid-runtime [03:10] FOUND IT! [03:10] uuid-runtime - Corrupt, but integrity was fine.... [03:12] Hmm [03:12] Will have to try again tomorrow. [03:14] md5sum on iso is fine [03:14] Will try tomorrow, [03:19] Can someone help me, I'm trying to figure out how to turn on file and print sharing [03:22] Probably best to go with Samba. [03:22] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba [03:23] thanks [03:23] No problem. The documentation is very thorough. === anom01y is now known as Loren [03:41] Real quiet in here.... [03:43] HELLO! likemindead [03:46] How goes it? [03:48] not bad, just looking for new emerald themes [04:12] in terminal how do i navigate to a directory with spaces in the name? [04:12] like cd /home/myname/desktop themes [04:16] R1cochet: cd ~/desktop\ themes [04:16] or just use tab :P [04:18] Odd-rationale: thank you so much [04:18] np [04:19] ahhh tab completion i love it [04:19] u the man [04:21] another solution is "mv desktop\ themes desktop_themes" [04:22] i too many folders with spaces to start doing that :) [04:23] i have* [04:23] (yeah, me too... :P ) [04:44] ße ßack £ater [11:06] hi all, need help ... [11:06] someone willing ? [11:06] the point is, i cant get GDM starting. [11:07] toc toc === leche_y_galletas is now known as leche === wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla [14:41] hi there... i just installed xfce and pulse audio doesn't start automatically. in gnome, after i login, padevchooser is connected. In xfce i always have to type pulseaudio -D for it to work. any ideas? [14:47] jxander, settings => settings manager => autostarted apps :) [15:01] hello everybody [15:02] ablomen, doesn't pulseaudio need some more sophisticated startup? :P [15:04] well... thanks ablomen :) [15:06] i had this problem before but i cant remember how to fix it [15:06] you guys helped me before [15:06] my xfce4 panel wont stay put [15:06] i have to enter xfce4-panel in terminal for it to appear [15:07] and i have to keep terminal running [15:07] can you please tell me how to get it to stay with terminal closed? [15:07] thanks very much [15:07] killerbyte: Alt-F2 [15:08] very good [15:09] jarnos, i hope that stays after next reboot [15:09] thanks though [15:11] killerbyte: You are welcome. Do you often loose xfce4-panel? Which release are you using? [15:11] intrepid [15:11] just happened once before [15:11] killerbyte: It happened to me too today as I installed Intrepid. [15:12] unlucky [15:13] killerbyte: my short report about it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/301995 [15:29] jarnos, interesting [15:29] i g2g [15:29] bye [15:37] What are the keybindings to use in xfce4-terminal to copy-paste text? [15:45] I made a package list named pl in file and then applied "cat pl | xargs sudo apt-get --assume-yes --force-yes install". [15:46] jarnos: how'd that work out for you? [15:46] Problem is that there was sun-java6-bin included in the list and the execution is paused in license screen. [15:47] Mind you, there are some gotchas there. If any of the packages in "pl" asks for anything, it gets its response from the same filedescriptor. [15:47] I hope I don't have to download the packages again since it took long time. [15:47] jarnos: You won't. That packages will still be there, if you didn't "apt-get clean". [15:49] How should I quit the paused command? [15:50] ctrl-c. [15:50] soren: Is there a better way to install packages from a list in a file so that it is more interactive? [15:50] jarnos: Yes. [15:50] while read pkg [15:50] do [15:50] echo $pkg install [15:50] done < pl | sudo dpkg --set-selections [15:50] sudo dselect install [15:52] soren: I lost cursor by ctrl-c [15:53] I'm sure you'll manage without it. [15:55] soren: No. I start a new terminal window/tab [15:55] Heh. Ok. [16:00] soren: Shame dselect is not included in default installation, if it is the way to do the job. [16:01] soren: I can't even install it. [16:01] E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) [16:01] E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? [16:02] jarnos: Your old apt-get is still running. [16:02] Kill it. [16:05] soren: I tried by gnome-system-monitor, but it seem gnome-system-monitor killed itself instead :( [16:05] I'm kind of busy right now. I'm sure someone else can explain how to kill a process. [16:06] soren: kill -9? [16:06] Don't ever kill -9 anything before you've at least tried kill -15 and kill -2 first. [16:07] soren: Thanks for the advice. [16:08] I have apt-get, dpkg, frontend, preinst, whiptail running. I guess they are all there for the original command. [16:10] I hope I don't mess up package management bad time if I kill all those. [16:14] If you don't kill -9 anything, it should all handle it somewhat gracefully. [16:16] soren: The other kills don't work for "apt-get": "bash: kill: (8035) - Operation not permitted"; I did not try to kill the other processes. [16:19] You need to "sudo kill" [16:19] apt-get runs as root. [16:19] (so does dpkg, whiptail, etc. etc., by the way) [16:21] soren: Thanks. Killing apt-get killed the others at once. [16:22] Indeed [16:24] soren: I have to run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" [16:25] That would be a good start. [16:25] Instead of dselect, you could also: [16:25] sudo apt-get install `cat pl` [16:28] soren: great, but does pl has to be a single row list? [16:29] No. [16:30] soren: First time I use `- character. [16:31] soren: I suppose it has different meaning thant ' or " [16:32] Yes. === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [18:34] soren: thanks, it worked fine with the apt-get command. (I used it to "reinstall" some packages after upgrade to 8.10.) [19:37] My xorg.conf is empty after 8.10 installation. [19:37] jarnos, it's supposed to be empty :) [19:38] I need help [19:38] vinnl: So can you change "Virtual" setting elsewhere to enable extended desktop? [19:39] jarnos, extended desktop? You mean with multiple desktops? [19:39] Conmiro, with what? [19:39] ok [19:39] I am trying to set up my os as a server [19:39] Ive done it with my windows xp using xampp [19:39] but when I try to go to my IP with ummmm Xubuntu, It won't load [19:40] localhost works fine though [19:40] Conmiro, are you using XAMPP or the official Apache, PHP and MySQL packages? [19:40] i downloaded xampp [19:40] it came with all that [19:40] Im on xp os right now [19:40] I'd recommend using the official installation (which is also easy to install) [19:40] vinnl: I mean e.g. "xrandr --output VGA --above LVDS" [19:40] where is that [19:40] Also, there's a special server edition of Ubuntu [19:41] oh [19:41] I need that instead? [19:41] Well, ive tried server edition and I got installed, But when Booting, I got pae error [19:41] said my cpu does not have pae [19:41] Anyway around this? [19:41] Conmiro, if you open Synaptic Package Manager, you can select "Mark Packages by Task" in the Edit menu, from where you can select "LAMP Server" that will install all the required stuff [19:42] uhh [19:42] in xubuntu? [19:42] jarnos, sorry, doesn't mean anything to me :( [19:42] SHould I get on xubuntu? [19:42] Conmiro, yep [19:42] ok [19:42] wait ehre k? [19:42] Sure [19:42] Though, [19:45] vinnl: I mean a desktop that continues from one display to another. [19:46] vinnl: Currently the command gives (provided both outputs are on): xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1360x1360 (desired size 1280x1568) [19:46] jarnos, I'm only using one screen myself... All I know is that it's normal that xorg.conf is empty with the new version and that most stuff is supposed to be autoconfigured now [19:47] jarnos: you need to set your screen size in your xorg [19:48] dcolish: ok. [19:51] I read somewhere that "InputDevice" sections are omitted. But I had a hack there for 8.04 for keyboard: "Option "XkbOptions" "nbsp:none" # Makes all space-like normal whitespace" [19:51] How do you do it in 8.10? [19:52] jarnos: same way you'd do it in 8.04. you have screen section that you have to define the max size you want [19:53] dcolish: I mean the keyboard thing. [19:54] jarnos: you'll need to look at fdi files in the ubuntu wiki [19:55] dcolish: fdi? [19:55] just google it [20:02] Enter text here...sorry [20:02] I installed all 4 suggestions cause I didint think it was working [20:03] I didint know had to restart browser [20:03] vinnl? [20:03] Conmiro, ? [20:03] yes [20:03] Im on xubuntu now [20:03] Which 4 suggestions? [20:03] plugins [20:03] to install [20:03] had to install java [20:04] hey, anyone here using an external RAID 1 harddisk? can this raid(controller?) run ext3? [20:04] Am I the only one that sees the watermake on the chat screen????? [20:04] try looking at the screen from a angle [20:04] Conmiro, which application are you using? [20:05] firefox [20:05] For chat? [20:05] fifrefox [20:05] oh [20:05] java 6 [20:05] Java is not a chat application [20:05] idk [20:05] :( [20:05] gogloom.com irc [20:05] is that what u mean? [20:05] Probably [20:05] Then that site is to blame [20:06] how do i browse the local network in xfce? [20:06] lol [20:06] localhost [20:06] enter that in browser [20:06] if you want other people to be able to access it, stick with me and vinnl [20:06] oh [20:06] vinnl [20:06] jxander, you mean with Samba? I have no experience with that, but Google helps, or so I've heard [20:06] is there a way to get more than 2 workspaces? [20:06] yeah... samba [20:06] Now I can't even quit xubuntu: "Quitting the session requires that Xfce's session manager (xfce4-session) is running, but it was not detected. Please quit Xfce via another means." xfce4-session is running anyway. BTW: This happened earlier today so I had to start xfce4-panel again by Alt-F2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/301995 [20:07] o.o [20:07] try system montiro to manually shut down [20:07] Conmiro, try "Workspaces and margins" from the Settings Manager [20:07] kk [20:07] thanks [20:08] omg freakin awesome [20:08] glad I made my swap space 4gb!!!! [20:08] ok [20:08] now [20:08] for my earlier question [20:08] How I make localhost public [20:09] Conmiro: How do you shut down by System Monitor? [20:09] i opened synpaptic packagemanager [20:09] look for it and press terminate [20:09] or kill process [20:10] jarnos, System Monitor is not for shutting down [20:10] oh I think hes talking about shutting down a program [20:10] ^.^ [20:10] Thats what i though [20:10] t [20:10] vinnl [20:10] what package I install? [20:11] Conmiro, in the edit menu, select "Mark Packages by Task" [20:11] Then select "LAMP Server" [20:11] ok [20:11] anyone having experiences using ntfs-3g ? if so, good or bad? [20:11] ok [20:11] installing [20:11] dfgrsdrsg, I've heard good things about it :P [20:12] oh thanks :) [20:12] ok [20:12] i think i installed [20:13] now what [20:13] wwait [20:13] 19 packages? [20:13] i only selected one [20:13] whats going on [20:13] Conmiro, those are Apache, PHP, etc [20:13] oh ok [20:14] should i delete my existing xampp files? [20:14] its not giving me the option too..... [20:14] :( [20:14] hmmmmmmmmmmm [20:15] Conmiro, well, it shouldn't be running, I suppose [20:15] whats sudo command to delete? [20:15] Conmiro, this is probably also useful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP [20:15] I don't know, you installed it [20:15] :( [20:15] its fine [20:16] Did you even need to install XAMPP? I didn't think so [20:16] il just continue with installation [20:16] idk [20:16] downloading package files and then installing :d [20:16] is xubuntu a good os to be running as a server? [20:17] is it fast and effecient? [20:17] vinnl can you help me with remote desktop feature? [20:18] Conmiro, sorry :( [20:18] ok [20:18] for what [20:18] The remote desktop [20:18] ok [20:19] How I increase download speed? its only at 100kbps I usually get around 500kbps... And im supposed to get 11mbps.... [20:19] now its at 80kbps [20:19] lol my friend said swap space is good for hiding stuff from parents [20:19] lol [20:20] vinnl? [20:20] How I fix montitor display? [20:20] I have a extended montior I use as a primary connected to my latop [20:20] and it cuts off the recycle bin at left bottom [20:21] Perhaps you need to adjust your monitor settings with the buttons on it? [20:21] yea [20:21] it cant zoom out [20:22] No but perhaps it's under your monitor's edge or something, so you could pan or scale it [20:22] found it [20:22] Oh good [20:22] display manager [20:22] :D [20:22] \o/ [20:23] ? [20:23] weve got a problem [20:23] my taskbar is gone [20:23] Press Alt+F2, then run "xfce4-panel" [20:30] back [20:30] NEVER EDIT MONTIOR SETTINGS [20:31] lol it screwed up [20:31] ok [20:31] i finished installing stuff [20:31] now what [20:31] :P [20:31] Now you should be able to browse localhost and see "It works!" (you might have to restart first) [20:31] Oh wait, "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start" should work as well if it's not started yet [20:31] ive always been able to browse localhost..... [20:32] Conmiro, yes, but now you can do it using properly installed software [20:32] I need other people to be able to access it [20:32] ok. [20:32] screen popped up saying "IT works!" [20:32] where is home dir at [20:33] Conmiro, you mean where you place a website's files? In /var/www/ [20:33] ok [20:33] how can other people access it [20:33] I'd check the link above for that [20:33] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP [20:33] will u stay here incase? [20:34] Yeah but I don't actually have experience making this public [20:34] But someone else here probably has :) [20:36] ok [20:36] bind-address = 192.168.1.2 [20:36] some command [20:39] help [20:40] HELP [20:40] it says I dont have access to certain files [20:40] IM A ADMIN!!! [20:40] please calm down [20:41] ok [20:41] can u help me? [20:41] You haven't asked a question. [20:41] We can't help people without questions. [20:41] yes [20:41] Conmiro, by the way, why do you want other people to access it? [20:41] How do I get access to ALL files? [20:42] yes [20:42] im running a website [20:42] off of my computer [20:42] I'm not sure if that's wise [20:42] it is [20:42] Ive done is using windows xp [20:42] it works great [20:42] trust me [20:42] Yeah it works, but is it safe? [20:42] Conmiro: get a virtual slice [20:42] What u mean [20:42] it is safe [20:43] Well, you *are* giving other people access to your machine, and if you don't know exactly how it works... [20:43] no [20:43] they only have access to that directory === danopia_ is now known as danpoia === danpoia is now known as danopia [20:44] well? [20:45] guys? [20:45] virtual slice? [20:46] just now saw that [20:47] Enter text herwhats e... [20:47] whats virtual slice [20:48] ? [20:48] linode.net, slicehost.com, etc, etc [20:48] its a vm instance that you own. [20:49] virtual machine? [20:49] is it easy? [20:49] will it work on xubuntu? [20:49] Conmiro: either way you should read up on firewalls if you're hosting your own public apache server [20:49] ive got a few [20:49] my router cost $100, its very good [20:49] wireless n with extreme firewall [20:49] hehe :) [20:49] ? [20:50] compatible speeds of up to 350mbps wireless [20:50] my router cost >100¤ and it sucks [20:50] 1000mbps wired [20:50] ok. [20:50] Mabey ur network card doesint support its full power..... [20:50] it does and the router is good and works as needed [20:50] but still it sucks [20:50] ok..... [20:50] antway [20:50] dcolish [20:50] this has almost nothing to do with the topic so i'll be brief. you should not host a production site out of your house unless you can support 4-5 9's [20:50] and your 100 buck router isn't any better if you don't know how to use it properly [20:51] I do [20:51] Im smart [20:51] set on mutli channel [20:51] and set to wireless g mode, cause my computer doesint support N sadly.... [20:51] getting N card soon [20:52] Anyway back on topic [20:52] 4-5 9s? [20:52] excuse me? [20:52] Just let me do what im doing and please help me [20:53] I accept the dangers and w/e stuff.... [20:53] Iv'e aready done it on my windows xp os [20:53] but i wana use xubuntu because It's faster. [20:54] Conmiro: you want me to tell that you're planning something smart, I wont. Besides for apache hosting xubuntu is not the ideal distro [20:55] ..... [20:55] You know what? [20:55] Are you saying its better to run it off of windows xp as I was? [20:55] dcolish how old do you think I am? [20:56] Hi Ahmuck [20:56] Conmiro: certainly not, but why not use something without an xserver? [20:56] like what? [20:56] ubuntu server [20:56] my computer won't boot that [20:56] said I don't have pae on my cpu [20:56] I've aready tried to install it, but fails at boot [20:56] So I deleted.. [20:57] does xubuntu have a partion cp? [20:58] I need to shrink my xubuntu install partition if I'm gonna re-attempt ubuntu server if you have a way to fix the pae error. [20:58] You got a way to fix the error? [20:59] hi anubis [20:59] Hi [20:59] Can someone help me with a sound driver issue with winamp ? [20:59] winamp? [20:59] Sorry, I can't [21:00] anubis, Winamp on Xubuntu? Does that run? [21:00] anubis, do you mean xmms? [21:00] I didin't think it did.... [21:00] hi vinnl o/ [21:00] vinnl [21:00] Hey knome :) [21:00] pls help me [21:01] dcolish left I think [21:01] Conmiro, sorry, I've said all I know :( [21:01] ok [21:01] how u pming people? [21:01] ive attempted the private command but its not working [21:01] Winamp does run well on Xubuntu [21:01] i've got a dual-head setup with my laptop lcd and an external lcd. i really love how xubuntu handles the two screens, except i don't know how to change from one screen to the other from the keyboard without using the mouse. how could i do this? also, where do i set keyboard shortcuts to multimedia keys on my laptop to be able to control the media player? [21:01] Conmiro, pinging isn't really polite [21:01] Conmiro, type /msg [21:01] pinging?? [21:01] I havent pinged one person today [21:02] aha pming... [21:02] k [21:02] sorry for my misreading [21:02] I can't get any sound out of it. [21:02] hmmm [21:02] jxander, for the multimedia keys go to settings manager -> keyboard -> tab shortcuts [21:02] why isint pinging polite? [21:02] just wondering... [21:03] knome, thanks... any ideas for the screen switching? [21:03] jxander, not really. i needed that myself but haven't had time to look out for the answer. [21:03] jxander, give me a few minutes and i'll try to google [21:04] Can anyone help me with "Ubuntu Server" Install? [21:04] Conmiro, try #ubuntu [21:04] Or #ubuntu-server [21:04] ok [21:04] join [21:04] oops [21:04] knome, hope you'll have greater luck [21:05] is there live cd for ubuntu server? [21:13] jxander, http://www.ishiboo.com/~nirva/Projects/xwarppointer/ [21:13] ok [21:13] my server seems to be down..... [21:14] knome, so... command to move the cursor from one to another, right? [21:14] cool [21:14] thanks [21:14] jxander, you can move the cursor with that app, yes [21:14] jxander, but it needs a bit tweaking [21:14] I cant load my server [21:14] thats wierd [21:18] knome, do you happen to know what handles the multimedia shortcuts in gnome and if there is an alternative for xfce... i see that i need to give a command for the associated play, pause shortcuts. is dbus the answer? [21:19] gnome? not really. [21:20] i mean, could i do that with dbus? [21:20] i don't know. sorry [21:20] np [21:20] :D [21:20] I believe something like that recently came up in some mailnglist or another [21:23] is there a samba browser? i've installed the sharing part i think, but i don't know what package i need to be able to browse others... :-s [21:23] OK never minder that, that was something else [21:24] Off the top of my head, I've read about PyNeighbourhood [21:24] (Or PyNeighborhood, I don't know) [21:24] sounds sambaish... thanks :) [21:33] Fonts are odd-sized now in 8.10, Volume control is gone. [21:41] volume control? what do you mean? [21:44] jxander: a panel item. [21:44] jxander, did you get the xwarppointer working? [21:45] still battling with samba :(... xwarppointer is coming up next... [21:47] jarnos, btw, is there something like subpixel smoothing like in gnome for xfce? [21:48] jxander: not that I know. [21:50] But can somebody explain why font size so big in my panel but small in xfce-setting-show [21:52] jxander: Try checking "User interface" in xfce-setting-show [21:53] jarnos, did that... but still, not the same look as in gnome... :(... do you use fglrx? i had the font problem after installed the restricted drivers :P... had to increase some sizes... don't know if it's a coincidence or what though :P [21:54] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6250865 [21:56] you still can't logout? or is it working? [22:01] jxander: I can logout. [22:01] jarnos, sweet :P [22:01] cool feature, right? :)) [22:07] hello? [22:07] can someone help me with Ubuntu? [22:08] Adamagic: Preferably Xubuntu here ;) [22:08] !persistentusb [22:08] Sorry, I don't know anything about persistentusb [22:08] !persistent [22:08] Sorry, I don't know anything about persistent [22:08] uh...yeah.. I dont even know the difference [22:09] which chatroom should I go to? [22:10] Adamagic, #ubuntu is for all Ubuntu distros [22:11] thanks [22:17] jxander: Yes, I like using it occasionally. [22:17] :) [22:26] * NotADJ 's install is slow as hell... [22:28] 2% [22:28] Please wait... [22:31] 3% [22:31] NotADJ, ok you can stop flooding again. [22:37] knome: It is stuck on 6%, once again, different CD! [22:37] :P [22:39] Urgh [22:40] knome: What shall I do?> [22:40] buy more ram. [22:40] :P [22:40] knome: Old computer, not worth it. [22:40] buy a new one. [22:41] 9_9 [22:41] we can't promise working environment with that little ram. [22:41] you can use the minimal installation if you want [22:41] !minimal [22:41] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [22:42] but still i don't promise you a working X environment [22:42] NotADJ: how much ram do you have? [22:43] jxander: 160 MB [22:43] knome: Command Line Gentoo workded :P [22:43] hi. i have installed cli version of ubuntu 8.10 ppc alternate onto an ibook g3. i then isntalled xubuntu-desktop and gdm [22:43] NotADJ, yes, command line ubuntu *will* work [22:43] tomaustin: Cool, nd? [22:43] once im logged in and open an application, the app tries to load.. then just doesnt open! [22:43] any ideas? [22:43] knome: I know. [22:43] NotADJ, just use the minimal installation. [22:44] and open an application* [22:44] knome: xfce?? [22:46] anyone have any idea why apps will try to load and then just disapear? [22:46] tomaustin: xserver misconfiguration? [22:46] NotADJ, xfce is not command line. [22:46] notadj, how do i check that? [22:47] NotADJ: Try Ubuntulite http://u-lite.org/?q=node/125 [22:47] knome: Does minimal use xfce? [22:47] tomaustin, try to run an app from terminal and see what output it gives [22:47] tomaustin: I forget :P [22:47] knome: Will terminal open? [22:47] :P [22:47] knome: I know [22:48] NotADJ, not by default. and as i said, even with minimal i can't guarantee xfce would work. it is *the same os* with no extra packages installed [22:48] knome: What are those extra packages? [22:49] xorg, gui apps, ... [22:49] jarnos, there's nothing but the basic CLI [22:50] Cool [22:51] ill give it a go [22:51] i got ubuntu+lxde on a friend's machine that has 128mb of ram... [22:52] it can do basic stuff like tuxpaint, gcompris, wormux, etc... [22:52] Odd-rationale, must be freaking slow? ;) [22:52] pII or something... [22:53] or was it a pIII.... i don't remember... [23:02] i want to install dillo 2.0 on xubuntu 8.04, which one of these debs should i use? http://misc.andi.de1.cc/dillo/ [23:03] !info dillo [23:03] dillo (source: dillo): Small and fast web browser. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.6-3 (intrepid), package size 408 kB, installed size 1140 kB [23:05] Odd-rationale: yes i know, 0.8.6 is in the repos, but i want version 2 :/ [23:06] yeah, just checkin... [23:06] i would just get the same one as your architect... i don't think it will really matter if you get lenny or etch... [23:07] ok, thanks [23:07] hi. whenever i try to open any application in ubuntu 8.10 running xfce on ibook g3.. it thinks about it and then just doesnt do anything! any ideas? [23:08] tomaustin: try running the command from a terminal? and checking the output? [23:08] i cant get terminal.. i could get one from the failsafe session tho [23:09] odd-rationale i get segmentation fault on thunar [23:10] are you running ppc version? [23:11] yes [23:11] the ppc 8.10 alternate cli install [23:11] then instlled xubuntu-desktop and gdm [23:11] tomaustin: have you tried #ubuntu-ppc ? [23:12] !ppc [23:12] thanks [23:12] PowerPC. Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ [23:12] it is not *officially* supported... [23:12] sorry, #ubuntu-powerpc [23:13] tomaustin: ^ [23:13] :) [23:16] Are there enough seeders seeding Xubuntu 8.04 iso i386 altern. [23:18] knome any seeders U know of? [23:18] nope. [23:18] Mooch: i'll start seeding for a bit... [23:19] yeah please I gotta get this pc upgraded [23:19] Mooch, how much do you have left? [23:19] oh wait... i only have 8.10... [23:19] sorry... [23:19] I am at barely 10% [23:19] ah [23:20] I downloaded all last night [23:20] Mooch, did you ask for help at the mailing list? [23:20] but with dial up [23:20] not yet [23:20] or was it somebody else [23:20] ok, so where do you live? [23:20] Mississippi [23:21] ok, you might send a mail to the xubuntu-users mailing list and ask whether somebody could send you a cd there [23:21] because that's just happened, it will probably be quicker that way [23:21] yeah I saw some websites offering to sell for like $1.95 [23:22] i suppose you can get one for free if you ask nicely on the ML [23:22] what's the website for the mailing list [23:23] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users [23:23] let me bookmark and I'll send them an email [23:23] yeah, and good luck. [23:24] I am gonna need it [23:25] if you know of any seeders please ask them if they could to seed the 8.04 altern. i386 [23:25] thanks knome I appreciate it [23:25] knome: Minimal CD stuck on same 6%! [23:25] What the hell. [23:26] you're welcome. if it looks like you're not getting a cd i can seed for you. [23:26] !language | NotADJ [23:26] NotADJ, please see my private message [23:26] :P [23:26] great knome I'll let you know thanks bud [23:26] Stupid Ubuntu [23:28] I can sell you a shrinkwrap copy of windows Me if you want NotADJ it should work [23:29] sinbox: I'd prefer to use Gentoo CLI, actually :P [23:29] not surprised I must say [23:29] :D [23:30] My NIC is flashing, so I'll wait a bigt [23:30] Until it fails [23:30] NotADJ, so tell me, *why don't you* ? [23:31] knome: Don't what? [23:31] use gentoo cli, if you prefer that? [23:31] knome: I'd like a desktop. [23:32] how low powered is your machine? [23:32] go into a furniture store then [23:32] NotADJ, how do you suppose ubuntu is any lighter than gentoo? [23:33] you could go with fluxbox or something similar instead of a "proper" desktop NotADJ [23:33] knome: Gentoo was what *was* on this computer, I have a Debian Server, and a Ubuntu Desktop (And a Fedora VM) [23:34] Is there a way to make the installer verbose? [23:34] NotADJ, yes? i still don't see why you want to change away from something you prefer. [23:35] knome: I'd prefer xubuntu over CLI only... [23:35] NotADJ, then you might have to buy some more ram. ok? [23:36] anyone here who knows a good lightweight filebrowser? [23:36] nycz, isn't thunar lightweight enough? [23:36] for free RAM check your local freecycle or similar group [23:36] 9_9 [23:36] IT MOVED! [23:36] Lol [23:37] knome: faster is much better :/ i feel like im running with full ram and swap all the time [23:37] nycz: Kernel Buffers do that [23:37] nycz: i use mc [23:37] nycz, you can check with top if it's thunar what is eating it [23:37] NotADJ: kernel buffers? [23:37] Odd-rationale: midnight commander? [23:37] nycz: yeah [23:38] Yeah [23:38] knome: hm [23:38] http://phpsysinfo.sourceforge.net/phpsysinfo-dev/?template=classic [23:39] you don't need phpsysinfo to look at what is going on [23:39] it will just eat the resources more [23:39] well then while we're at it, anyone knows a lightweight web browser? [23:39] knome: Kernel Buffers o_o [23:40] nycz, epiphany / midori (@ testing stage) [23:40] nycz: elinks? [23:40] Odd-rationale: isnt that only textbased? [23:40] netcat/telnet :D [23:40] knome: will check out [23:40] nycz: there is a plugin that displays images [23:40] nycz: yup! [23:40] w3m has such a plugin too [23:40] TheSheep, images of sheep? [23:40] telnet google.com 80 [23:40] i hear that dillo is pretty fast as well... [23:40] GET http://.... [23:40] knome: mainly, yes [23:41] a-ha ok [23:41] thanks for information [23:41] NotADJ: that's a malformed request already [23:41] TheSheep: Argh! [23:41] :P [23:41] would you people happen to know if midori is faster than firefox? [23:42] !info w3m-img [23:42] w3m-img (source: w3m): inline image extension support utilities for w3m. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.2-2build1 (intrepid), package size 94 kB, installed size 164 kB [23:42] Wow. [23:42] I forgot that there is no soundcard in this PC [23:42] Old [23:42] NotADJ: welcome to the club (almost) [23:42] :D [23:43] NotADJ: i have three possible soundcards for this comp... only one works, and thats partially [23:43] :P [23:44] well, sitting on a quite old computer really redefines the word "fast" ._. [23:44] nycz, it is. [23:45] knome: very nice :D no more bloatfox [23:45] nycz, even epiphany is [23:45] hm [23:45] how do i see memory usage? [23:46] i tried gnome's system monitor but it filled half my ram :S [23:46] nycz: system->system monitor [23:46] ohhhhnonono [23:46] terminal -> free [23:46] ah [23:46] :) [23:46] also top [23:47] ouch [23:47] vlc takes 12% of my cpu [23:47] and firefox takes 40% of my memory :( [23:49] sounds about right [23:50] hm [23:51] why is something i xkilled still active in top? [23:51] nycz: killall -K KILL [23:51] oh ok [23:53] Oh my.. [23:53] that didn't work :S [23:53] NotADJ: ? [23:53] It seems as if my install has paused. [23:54] :S [23:54] nycz, kill -s kill [pid] [23:55] Ir started again! [23:55] W00t [23:59] hm