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| birnisson | hi, sorry to ask but are there kde 4.2 packages for intrepid? | 04:51 |
|---|---|---|
| ScottK | birnisson: They are planned, but not until release. We'll have beta packages for Jaunty. (This is all IIRC). | 05:13 |
| stdin | !neon | 05:13 |
| ubottu | The Neon Project provides daily Amarok and KDE 4 trunk builds as packages for Kubuntu | See http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon and http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon/KDE for more | 05:13 |
| stdin | there is ^ that if you really want the latest | 05:13 |
| birnisson | nice thanks | 05:15 |
| larsivi | hola | 11:04 |
| larsivi | I have intrepid installed on my laptop, but normally use a larger external lcd attached to it - with hardy, this was autodiscovered, and kdm/kde was started in the resolution of this external screen | 11:04 |
| larsivi | this doesn't happen anymore, but instead it auto-adjusts as I open the screen component in system settings ... what can I do, or where should I report the bug? | 11:05 |
| larsivi | gotta run - my son threw up in the kindergarten :( | 11:07 |
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| === gletelli__ is now known as gletelli | ||
| ryanakca | I'm merging kiosktool... could someone provide me with a bit of inspiration as to why we have automake1.9 in the build-dep when Debian never has? | 12:06 |
| ryanakca | please :) | 12:07 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: probably because debian has a buildprep patch, which we don't keep? | 12:07 |
| Hobbsee | or at least, don't usually keep | 12:07 |
| Hobbsee | we tend to rerun autohell for all the builds, rather than do it as part of updating it, and having a massive patch | 12:08 |
| apachelogger | ryanakca: kiosktool should be removed really | 12:31 |
| apachelogger | it's only useful for KDE 3 really, and a finished KDE 4 port is not in sight | 12:31 |
| === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde | ||
| larsivi | hmm - any ideas? | 13:01 |
| ScottK | larsivi: First, if it worked for you in Hardy, you are extraordinarily lucky. The Xinerama based dual screen solution we have in Hardy works for almost no one with a modern Xorg. | 13:28 |
| larsivi | ScottK: no, not dual screen - I was never able to get that to work (except back before the "new" range of intel drivers) | 13:28 |
| ScottK | Ah. I see. | 13:29 |
| larsivi | ScottK: it is just duplicate screens, but with the larger external as the default | 13:29 |
| ScottK | Right, even that is problematic. | 13:29 |
| larsivi | I set some bios setting at one point to make sure it is enabled at start up | 13:29 |
| ScottK | It's a known limitation of xrandr that it only supports rectangular surfaces. What this means is that both screens have to be at the same resolution. | 13:30 |
| larsivi | for dual screen, yes? | 13:30 |
| ScottK | I don't think dual/duplicate matters. | 13:30 |
| ScottK | I think it's both. | 13:31 |
| larsivi | no? it works just fine for me, but I have to open system settings, and open the screen option for it to click into place | 13:31 |
| larsivi | the monitor on the laptop shows the upper left corner of the full desktop | 13:31 |
| ScottK | OK. | 13:32 |
| ScottK | I'm not sure then where the bug would be. | 13:32 |
| larsivi | it also worked fine in gutsy before hardy, which I installed as a late alpha on the laptop back when the hardware was brander than brand new :) | 13:32 |
| larsivi | and whatever was before gutsy on my old laptop :P | 13:33 |
| larsivi | anyway, so this is almost the last annoyance left after the intrepid upgrade | 13:34 |
| ScottK | In Feisty/Gutsy it all worked pretty well with Xinerama and Xorg, but then Xorg started to change and KDE didn't keep up. | 13:34 |
| ScottK | So Hardy has a lot of known problems in this area and the tools for Intrepid are known to be incomplete. | 13:34 |
| larsivi | well, I didn't use xinerama back then either, and kde not keeping up wasn't a problem, because the resolution was correct when X started | 13:35 |
| larsivi | no, actually, there were some minor issues with feisty if I switched from no external to external, then kicker didn't move as it should (but could be moved manually), but otherwise it worked just fine :) | 13:36 |
| larsivi | what was interesting was trying to get dual screen working before xrandr 1.2 - then it actually depended on the make of the monitor :P | 13:36 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: kmix.post* are not supposed to be part of debian/ | 13:37 |
| apachelogger | NCommander: Updated to reflect documentation removal (possibly bug ...) <= either it is a bug or it is not, noting that it might be one doesn't make it any more or less one | 13:38 |
| nixternal | ho ho ho, merry nixmas! | 14:34 |
| nixternal | oh wait, wrong month | 14:35 |
| nixternal | is 4.2 beta getting into intrepid somehow? I have quite a few people asking for it | 14:37 |
| JontheEchidna | nixternal: once it gets into Jaunty | 14:40 |
| ScottK | nixternal: My recollection is that the plan was for intrepid-backports after release and the Kubuntu experimental PPA before. | 14:40 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: ^^ Is that right? | 14:40 |
| nixternal | nice | 14:40 |
| * nixternal wants to hack on Kubuntu today, but I have to finish other work first | 14:41 | |
| JontheEchidna | Correct, 4.2.0 goes in intrepid-backports, beta/prelease in general in kubuntu-experimental | 14:41 |
| nixternal | you would think someone would have created an application that will profile your system's apps and then have a way to check them against a) the main distro and b) upstream | 14:41 |
| jjesse | nixternal: would love to work on kubuntu stuyff today but will be driving to in laws today | 14:42 |
| nixternal | they are up north? | 14:42 |
| txwikinger | How far north :D | 14:43 |
| nixternal | nowhere near the border :) | 14:44 |
| nixternal | I thought one time he said traverse city, but I can't remember who the heck that was | 14:45 |
| jjesse | nixternal: in laws in detroit | 14:45 |
| jjesse | livonia | 14:45 |
| jjesse | but staying with my brother and sister in law in yspilanti | 14:45 |
| txwikinger | Detroit *is* near the border :p | 14:45 |
| nixternal | jjesse: ahh, that's right..I remembered sort of from last year :) | 14:46 |
| nixternal | jjesse: you should meet up with the michigan loco guys...they are all right in that area | 14:46 |
| nixternal | greg-g is one dude you seriously have to meet and hang out with... that jcastro dude, foo him :p | 14:46 |
| txwikinger | that reminds me.. I have to e-mail this jcastro dude | 14:47 |
| jjesse | yeah i should | 14:47 |
| jjesse | but my wife and her family plans all kinds of things to do | 14:47 |
| * txwikinger almost went to the Detroit intrepid release party | 14:47 | |
| jjesse | family football day on thursday morning then turkey time, then friday more things to do | 14:50 |
| txwikinger | who are the Lions loosing against on Thursday? | 14:50 |
| txwikinger | losing | 14:51 |
| txwikinger | All this moving makes me lose focus on the important stuff :) | 14:52 |
| jjesse | titans | 14:54 |
| jjesse | and it is not blacked out | 14:54 |
| jjesse | they sold out just before the deadline | 14:54 |
| nixternal | I will pick Detroit to win against the Titans... 37 - 13 | 14:56 |
| larsivi | what sport is that anyway, handball? :P | 14:57 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 14:57 |
| nixternal | futbol americana | 14:57 |
| larsivi | ah, chicken football | 14:57 |
| nixternal | rugby with pads | 14:57 |
| larsivi | *rugby, not football | 14:57 |
| nixternal | americans talk a big game, but they are really wimps...they have to wear pads | 14:57 |
| larsivi | yeah, even the huge players | 14:58 |
| larsivi | I actually have a friend here who's coaching the local team | 14:58 |
| larsivi | they're fairly good in norway :P | 14:58 |
| nixternal | i remember playing football when I was a kid w/o pads...everyone broke something | 14:59 |
| nixternal | mostly collar bones | 14:59 |
| nixternal | I think a broken collar bone is without a doubt the most painful bone break one could go through | 14:59 |
| larsivi | ah debian packager I know of had to do major surgery on his shoulder after playing real rugby on some higher french level | 15:00 |
| txwikinger | well. rugby is a contact sport... football is a collision sport | 15:01 |
| txwikinger | How will the Lions get 37 points? No running game and a QB that throws all kinds of INTs | 15:04 |
| larsivi | football is clearly not a collision sport unless you're very bad it - american football is a different matter though | 15:04 |
| txwikinger | I talk about american football the other one is called soccer around here :p | 15:05 |
| larsivi | txwikinger: yeah, I know you are crazy over there :) | 15:06 |
| stdin | txwikinger: don't you think it's strange to call it "football" when one hardy ever uses one's foot? ;) | 15:07 |
| txwikinger | stdin: Well.. you don't know the reason? | 15:08 |
| stdin | nope | 15:09 |
| txwikinger | The posh people play with the foot.. the not so posh take the dirty ball in the hand | 15:09 |
| larsivi | eh, so the kicker is posh? and the rest are not? | 15:10 |
| txwikinger | well.. the kickers are always outsiders... the can't even properly tackle | 15:10 |
| larsivi | heh, I even hear one of the best superbowl kickers ever was norwegian :P | 15:11 |
| txwikinger | Danish I believe... Mortensen, right? | 15:11 |
| larsivi | no, not him | 15:11 |
| txwikinger | He is the Kicker with the most career points | 15:12 |
| larsivi | it is some years ago, but his record, whatever it was, lasted for a long time | 15:12 |
| txwikinger | The most fun one was a kicker who came from Australian Rules Football | 15:12 |
| txwikinger | He was one of the rare ones who could tackle | 15:13 |
| larsivi | txwikinger: Jan Stenerud | 15:13 |
| txwikinger | larsivi: That must have been long time ago | 15:13 |
| larsivi | I said so :) | 15:13 |
| txwikinger | 60s? | 15:13 |
| larsivi | 60s-80s | 15:14 |
| larsivi | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Stenerud | 15:14 |
| txwikinger | Ah .. with the Chiefs | 15:18 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: btw, is sound working yet? | 16:48 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: nope :( | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | no sense this does make | 17:14 |
| Nightrose | indeed | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | ha! | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | hu! | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | he | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | muhahahahahahahahaha | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: do you belive in batman? | 17:20 |
| Nightrose | definitely | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: perfect | 17:24 |
| * apachelogger calls bruce and tells him to fix that package | 17:24 | |
| Nightrose | \o/ | 17:24 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: your .dev channel got a lot more weird | 17:26 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: how so? | 17:26 |
| apachelogger | well, check it out | 17:26 |
| * Nightrose wasn't around since last evening | 17:26 | |
| Nightrose | k | 17:26 |
| Nightrose | argh... | 17:27 |
| Nightrose | yea | 17:27 |
| * Nightrose gets some food | 17:27 | |
| apachelogger | is it fooding time again? | 17:27 |
| Nightrose | jep | 17:27 |
| Nightrose | ;-) | 17:27 |
| apachelogger | cool | 17:27 |
| nixternal | mmm food | 17:31 |
| Nightrose | hmmm nixternal: got a minute? or are you busy? | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | nixternal: btw, are you back in development yet? | 17:34 |
| nixternal | Nightrose: yes | 17:35 |
| nixternal | apachelogger: yes | 17:35 |
| nixternal | world: yes | 17:35 |
| nixternal | !yes | 17:35 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about yes | 17:35 |
| Nightrose | nixternal: haha ok - then let's talk in kde-docs | 17:36 |
| * nixternal goes there | 17:36 | |
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| * nixternal creates halitosis, the sys iso hal plugin | 17:44 | |
| JontheEchidna | haha | 17:44 |
| Nightrose | Oo | 17:52 |
| mib_gnq6ky | hey | 18:46 |
| mib_gnq6ky | so are you going to release packages of kde 4.2 beta1 for intrepid? | 18:46 |
| mib_gnq6ky | anyone knows there are going to be packages of kde 4.2 beta1 for intrepid? | 18:59 |
| mib_gnq6ky | Xand3r: do you know if there are going to be packages of kde 4.2 beta1 for intrepid? | 19:04 |
| Nightrose | mib_gnq6ky: there are going to be packages but due to the team being short on packagers currently it will take some time | 19:06 |
| Nightrose | and no need to ask 3 times ;-) | 19:06 |
| Arby | too late :) | 19:07 |
| JontheEchidna | yay! | 19:07 |
| Nightrose | meh | 19:07 |
| Xand3r | hi Nightrose | 19:07 |
| Nightrose | hi Xand3r | 19:07 |
| Xand3r | how do you do? | 19:07 |
| Nightrose | i love those people... | 19:07 |
| Nightrose | pretty good - only downside is hat my openid provider is so slow that i can't log in anywhere | 19:08 |
| Nightrose | which is a pita | 19:08 |
| bobesponja | you should use a delegate on your own server | 19:08 |
| Nightrose | jep - doesn't help me though with the services that have that login already ;-) | 19:09 |
| bobesponja | services generally offer to modify your openid | 19:09 |
| bobesponja | if not, shame on them :) | 19:09 |
| Nightrose | doesn't look like i can do that | 19:10 |
| bobesponja | if you tell them you forgot your password | 19:12 |
| JontheEchidna | !info indy jaunty | 19:16 |
| ubottu | Package indy does not exist in jaunty | 19:16 |
| JontheEchidna | !info indi jaunty | 19:16 |
| ubottu | indi (source: indi): INDI, instrument neutral distributed interface. In component main, is optional. Version 5:0.5-0ubuntu6 (jaunty), package size 625 kB, installed size 1600 kB | 19:16 |
| danimo | heya | 20:03 |
| danimo | anyone looking for 4.2b1 deb testers? | 20:04 |
| danimo | :) | 20:04 |
| danimo | Riddell: ping? | 20:07 |
| Nightrose | danimo: apachelogger and JontheEchidna probably at one point | 20:13 |
| Nightrose | though i doubt the packages are ready yet | 20:13 |
| JontheEchidna | not ready! don't look! :p | 20:13 |
| Nightrose | hihi | 20:13 |
| JontheEchidna | things are going a bit slow probably due to Thanksgiving | 20:13 |
| Nightrose | JontheEchidna: any estimation we can give people who ask? | 20:14 |
| JontheEchidna | that's the thing... | 20:14 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm | 20:14 |
| JontheEchidna | some modules might not be updated, but hopefully we can upload most of the stuff by tomorrow | 20:15 |
| JontheEchidna | could happen today but I wouldn't make plans around that happening | 20:15 |
| ryanakca | apachelogger: ok, so how do I ask to get it removed? | 20:48 |
| ryanakca | apachelogger: file a bug on LP and then subscribe the mirror admins or <insert LP team> ? | 20:49 |
| glade88 | http://mjg59.livejournal.com/101706.html :( | 20:56 |
| apachelogger | danimo: still gotta take quite some time, we are doing doubled reviewing for this release, so things take a lot longer | 21:08 |
| apachelogger | !info kiosktool jaunty | 21:09 |
| ubottu | kiosktool (source: kiosktool): tool to configure the KDE kiosk framework. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-2ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 256 kB, installed size 1732 kB | 21:09 |
| apachelogger | ryanakca: file a bug report (content is somewhere described in a wiki page) and a get a MOTU to ack it | 21:09 |
| apachelogger | the MOTU will then subscribe the archive admins | 21:10 |
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| ryanakca | seele: What would be a good max-width for the wiki theme? | 22:49 |
| seele | probably ~1000 pixels i think? maybe 1050 max? | 22:59 |
| seele | otherwise the text is too hard to read | 22:59 |
| jussi01 | Who was it that was working on the system settings fglrx bug? | 23:06 |
| james_w | hey, would somebody teach me a little about cmake so that I can debug something? | 23:44 |
| james_w | tellico fails to build in jaunty as it uses -lkhtml, but that complains about a bunch of missing symbols, all the KJS ones | 23:44 |
| manchicken | What do you want to know? | 23:44 |
| james_w | tellico doesn't use any KJS ones, so it's not missing a direct link | 23:45 |
| james_w | but something should be telling it to -lkjs when doing -lkhtml shouldn't it? | 23:45 |
| manchicken | Well I guess then you need to know what's trying to hit up lkjs. | 23:46 |
| james_w | libkhtml is | 23:47 |
| james_w | bug 298269 | 23:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 298269 in tellico "Please merge tellico 1.3.3-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/298269 | 23:47 |
| * Hobbsee mutters abotu tellico | 23:49 | |
| * Hobbsee put that change in svn,but no one ever uploaded it | 23:49 | |
| manchicken | You're pulling in khtml... that's what's complaining. | 23:51 |
| manchicken | Hobbsee! | 23:51 |
| manchicken | Howdy. | 23:51 |
| Hobbsee | hey manchicken! | 23:51 |
| * Hobbsee thought you'd left! | 23:51 | |
| manchicken | I did for a while. | 23:52 |
| manchicken | Kids take a little while to get used to. | 23:52 |
| manchicken | And then of course I've all but gone completely mac these days. | 23:53 |
| manchicken | Tonio_ told me that I should come around here again and say hi. | 23:53 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 23:53 |
| Hobbsee | still using gnome, then? | 23:53 |
| manchicken | I've been ramping up on my French lately since my wife and I want our kid to be bilingual, so I've been fooling myself into thinking that I could maybe help with some translations or something. Dunno. | 23:54 |
| manchicken | Naw, I haven't run Ubuntu for almost 3 months. | 23:54 |
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