[00:00] <ActionParsnip> chull: howdy
[00:01] <kabotage> ActionParsnip: dist-upgrade is now workin. il try autoremove after the upgrade.
[00:01] <fleetcommand> good evening
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> kabotage: cool
[00:01] <t1ty> slt tlm
[00:01] <kabotage> ActionParsnip: yea. thanks for your help :)
[00:01] <|TJ|> ActionParsnip: if i use sudo apt-get remote kde4-core will it restore my kde 3.x desktop
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> kabotage: np bro
[00:01] <LPotter> hzushuas
[00:01] <chull> ActionParsnip, he's restarting the box several times to get the sound working.
[00:01] <LPotter> _I_
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> |TJ|: not sure, did kde3 get removed when you upgraded
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> |TJ|: yuo could always compile kde3.5
[00:02] <|TJ|> ActionParsnip:  not sure is there away to find
[00:02] <t1ty> il y a quelqu'un de francais?
[00:02] <QuaxEros> non
[00:03] <QuaxEros> mais...tu voulais dire qua
[00:03] <t1ty> rien papoter :D
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> |TJ|: dpkg -l | less
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> !fr | t1ty
[00:05] <QuaxEros> Tu te carrement jeter!!
[00:05] <QuaxEros> fait
[00:05] <chull> ActionParsnip, he did the upgrade from 8.4 to 8.10 and the sound problem remained
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> chull: who?
[00:06] <chull> ActionParsnip, my husband
[00:06] <afeijo> what can I use to monitor cpu temp?
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> chalcedny: run lspci | grep -i audio
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> chalcedny: you will see what sound card you have
[00:06] <chalcedny> ActionParsnip, ok
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> chalcedny: you can then websearch from that
[00:11] <kabotage> ActionParsnip: it came back. E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. i wanna fix it but im really tired & sleepy so i gtg. ttyl.
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> peace out kabotage
[00:19] <kubuntuuser> I nned help, I cant conect to wiffi
[00:19] <kubuntuuser> any idea?
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> kubuntuuser: run lspci and you'll see your adapter
[00:20] <kubuntuuser> my adapter is atheros
[00:20] <kubuntuuser> conceptronic
[00:21] <kubuntuuser> ive changed knetworkmanager to wicd
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> kubuntuuser: which atheros?
[00:22] <R_Rios> Hi
[00:22] <kubuntuuser> m...
[00:23] <kubuntuuser> Atheros Communications Inc C54RU
[00:23] <R_Rios> I've installed Amarok RC on Intrepid
[00:23] <R_Rios> But it isn't running
[00:23] <R_Rios> When I run it on the terminal, I get this:
[00:24] <R_Rios> FAILURE (KCmdLineArgs):
[00:24] <R_Rios> Application requests for isSet("multipleinstances") but the "multipleinstances"option
[00:24] <R_Rios> has never been specified via addCmdLineOptions( ... )
[00:24] <R_Rios> ASSERT: "0" in file /build/buildd/kde4libs-4.1.3/kdecore/kernel/kcmdlineargs.cpp, line 1499
[00:24] <R_Rios> What is happening
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> kubuntuuser: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5025
[00:28] <innovate2000> anyone use intrepid and winbind?
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> innovate2000: i use intrepid
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> innovate2000: not winbind
[00:29] <innovate2000> ActionParsnip: saw you in #ubuntu - do you have suggestions as to which channel I should use to get help? I've been struggling with this for several days
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> !info winbind
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> innovate2000: no idea man, try channels that deal with linux / windows crossovers like #samba
[00:32] <innovate2000> thanks all - I am familiar with winbind - have successfully replaced 8 windows servers with (k)ubuntu 8.04 servers - but now am trying with (k)ubuntu 8.10 and am getting failures when I try "net ads join" (which went without a hitch in 8.04 - but fails for 8.10)
[00:32] <R_Rios> IS there anyone here using amarok RC?
[00:32] <innovate2000> Actionparsnip: thanks
[00:33] <blabla> Hello @ All
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> R_Rios: rc?
[00:33] <R_Rios> Yeah
[00:33] <R_Rios> Amarok 2 RC 1
[00:34] <szrhawaii> #compiz-fusion
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> R_Rios: i'm on 1.4
[00:34] <R_Rios> =/
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> R_Rios: how did yu get it
[00:36] <R_Rios> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2-rc-1
[00:37] <Sleepyzsx> hey all where can I Getg help with ubuntu 8.10
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> Sleepyzsx: here
[00:40] <Sleepyzsx> ah ok ty, Im having troublr getting my atheros wifi card ive searched around but cant seem to find any answers that will worke
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> Sleepyzsx: lspci will show you what you have, you can websearch from there
[00:52] <phoenixz> Hi there, Im trying to install openoffice3 with KDE integration on my kubuntu machine, but all it does is crash during start up.. Anybody here with the same problem?
[01:00] <afeijo> I installed ktemparature, but it isnt working.  What else can I use?
[01:03] <szrhawaii> how do i turn of the kdesktop from drawing
[01:03] <szrhawaii> instead of killing it
[01:05] <szrhawaii> anyone know how or where i should go so i can learn to make a bootsplash or usplash
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> !usplash
[01:11] <szrhawaii> thanks
[01:31] <livingdaylight> kubuntu people!
[01:31] <livingdaylight> is there a wubi installer for kubuntu?
[01:32] <Dragnslcr> I think you have to have a Kubuntu CD
[01:32] <Dragnslcr> Or maybe just the image
[01:32] <Dragnslcr> I can't remember exactly how I did it
[01:33] <livingdaylight> i want a .exe installer
[01:35] <kubuntuuser> livingdaylight: sry¿?
[01:36] <livingdaylight> kubuntuuser: sry?
[01:36] <Dragnslcr> I'm pretty sure Wubi asks you for an .iso image or a CD
[01:36] <kubuntuuser> :S try softonic -> wubi
[01:38] <livingdaylight> softonic?
[01:38] <livingdaylight> seems the only way is to install ubuntu with wubi installer and then install the kubuntu desktop
[01:44] <szrhawaii> # compiz-fusion
[01:45] <szrhawaii> #compiz-fusion
[01:58] <Out_Cold> what's a plasma desktop??
[01:59] <colton_> Hi. If I need to unzip a .tgz file, what can I use?
[02:00] <snyderios> you can use Ark
[02:01] <colton_> thx
[02:02] <Out_Cold> sorry... what is a plasma dashboard??
[02:02] <lovre> kinda new desktop i would say...
[02:04] <Out_Cold> i dunno.. when i select it from the task bar, it goes grey... then if i click anything i seem to exit out of it
[02:06] <Out_Cold> i've learned on gnome.. and am trying to broaden my scope with kde and a few other managers.. i keep wanting to lose the kde but keep hearing good things about it
[02:09] <XFire> Kubuntu is really a joke.
[02:16] <tuanpham> morning
[02:16] <tuanpham> any body use black berry 8700 here ?
[02:16] <tuanpham> i have got a problem with usb cable
[02:17] <tuanpham> i can not chage my phone battery
[02:17] <tuanpham> any solution then ?
[02:19] <tuanpham>       hello
[02:19] <tuanpham> anybody home ?
[02:24] <snyderios> yeah
[02:25] <snyderios> tuanpham: what's your problem?
[02:29] <tuanpham> ok
[02:29] <tuanpham> i reslove my seft
[02:29] <tuanpham> thank :)
[02:29] <tuanpham> but one more question then
[02:30] <tuanpham> does kubuntu 8.10 have drive for my black berry phone ?
[02:30] <tuanpham> series 8700
[02:31] <epimeth> ahoy!
[02:31] <epimeth> I've missed this channel...
[02:32] <epimeth> anybody know why the heck my screen is flickering?
[02:32] <epimeth> and is anybody else experiencing the same problem?
[02:32] <epimeth> I have a feeling it *might* be because of the 915 resolution?
[02:33] <epimeth> the package doesn't seem to exist anymore
[02:33] <kevin__> anyone figure out the Aim installs yet?
[02:34] <snyderios> tuanpham: i don't know, maybe google can help you?
[02:34] <tuanpham> :) thank i am searching
[02:35] <tuanpham> does anyone know the spell checker for 8.10 ?
[02:36] <tuanpham> when i use skype IM
[02:36] <tuanpham> i have no spell checker then
[02:37] <Musky> hi
[02:37] <ttttz> hola
[02:38] <Musky> thought id check in and stay awhile
[02:38] <Musky> maybe i can learn something
[02:38] <draik> I'm using ARK to unrar a file. There is an avi within the various rar files (.rar .r00 .r01 ... .r37). I open .rar and extract. Nothing is extracted. What am I doing wrong?
[02:41] <snyderios> splitted .rar files can't unpacked with Ark
[02:41] <tuanpham> draik: did you check to the all file check box ?
[02:41] <epimeth> draik: you can combine the rar parts into one
[02:41] <snyderios> you can use 'unrar' or 'unrar-free'
[02:41] <draik> tuanpham: It's only one file
[02:42] <draik> epimeth: How so?
[02:42] <epimeth> draik: try cat file.rar file.r00 file.r01 file.r02 .... file.r37 > new_file_name.rar
[02:42] <draik> snyderios: Ok. I could have sworn I've done it in the past, but who knows. Thanks for the tip.
[02:42] <epimeth> and then open new_file_name.rar in ark
[02:42] <epimeth> it should work then
[02:50] <Out_Cold> anyone know how to turn off the mouse touch pad taps?
[02:51] <epimeth> Out_Cold: If you find out, let me know :-)
[02:51] <Out_Cold> crap
[02:51] <Out_Cold> i can find it no problem in gnome....
[02:51] <epimeth> oh?
[02:52] <Out_Cold> yea.. it's fairly straight forward... but i've been trying to familiarize myself in the KDE
[02:52] <epimeth> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-910254.html
[02:52] <epimeth> try that?
[02:53] <draik> epimeth: I tried and it did not work. The file is not being extracted.
[02:53] <epimeth> file?
[02:54] <draik> Yes. The avi file I'm trying to extract
[02:54] <epimeth> oh
[02:54] <epimeth> lol
[02:54] <epimeth> sorry
[02:54] <epimeth> I thought you were the other guy
[02:54] <Out_Cold> yea.. got me too
[02:54] <draik> Thought so, too.
[02:54] <epimeth> draik: have you tried unrar?
[02:54] <draik> How do I use unrar?
[02:55] <epimeth> install the unrar program
[02:55] <tuanpham> apt get
[02:55] <epimeth> and to use it, follow the instructions in "man unrar"
[02:55] <draik> I'm sorry, I should ask, What's the syntax?
[02:55] <tuanpham> did you try 7zip ?
[02:55] <draik> Ok
[02:55] <epimeth> sudo apt-get install unrar
[02:55] <draik> I have in installed.
[02:56] <epimeth> now "man unrar"
[02:56] <epimeth> and follow the instructions :-)
[02:58] <epimeth> is there not going to be a katapult for kde4?
[02:58] <epimeth> or do I just have to wait
[02:58] <epimeth> I love katapult :-(
[02:58] <draik> I was missing the "e" WHOOPSIE!
[02:59] <epimeth> ???
[03:00] <Out_Cold> what is katapult?
[03:01] <kevin__> anyone know a good IM that I can send txt msg's with?
[03:01] <epimeth> katapult is only the best piece of software ever
[03:01] <Out_Cold> that explains it all epimeth
[03:01] <epimeth> in kde3, you hit "alt+space" and start typing in the program you want
[03:01] <epimeth> it autocompletes and shows the icon
[03:02] <Out_Cold> ok.. that sounds cool
[03:02] <epimeth> pretty much the same as "alt+f2" in kde4
[03:02] <epimeth> buuuuuuuuut.  I like the way katapult looks much more
[03:02] <Dragnslcr> I think katapult got retired by the regular run dialog
[03:02] <epimeth> and I prefer alt+space over alt+f2
[03:02] <epimeth> :-)
[03:02] <Dragnslcr> Heh, you can probably change the keyboard shortcut
[03:03] <Out_Cold> that would just be to easy though lol
[03:03] <Out_Cold> and it wouldn't be as cool
[03:03] <epimeth> exactly
[03:03] <epimeth> :-)
[03:04] <epimeth> Dragnslcr: how would you say I can change the shortcut?
[03:04] <epimeth> and this screen flickering business is driving me nuts!
[03:06] <tuanpham> how about spellchecker ?
[03:06] <epimeth> why is xorg.conf empty?
[03:06] <epimeth> tuanpham: dunno dude
[03:08] <epimeth> where the heck is everyone????
[03:09] <Dragnslcr> epimeth- System Settings -> Keyboard -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[03:10] <Out_Cold> epimeth, prolly the wrong xorg.conf file lol
[03:11] <epimeth> Out_Cold: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:11] <epimeth> everywhere it says that thats it
[03:11] <epimeth> but mine is empty...
[03:11] <epimeth> Dragnslcr: I don't see it there....
[03:12] <Dragnslcr> It's in the Run Command component
[03:12] <Out_Cold> that's no good.... you sure you have permissions to view it?
[03:13] <epimeth> kdesudo kate :-)
[03:14] <Out_Cold> weird.. mine is there... maybe you erased it... in which case... uh oh
[03:14] <epimeth> I didn't do anything!
[03:14] <epimeth> I'll reconfigure... that should bring it back
[03:16] <epimeth> nope... still empty!!!
[03:16] <epimeth> garrrrrr
[03:19] <epimeth> hmmm... it says here that with the new changes to xorg I can run with an empty xorg.conf
[03:19] <epimeth> so now I don't know how to add configurations
[03:19] <epimeth> heh
[03:20] <epimeth> I need to know what video drivers I'm using
[03:35] <soontak> epimeth: maybe u can try this command: displayconfig
[03:35] <newbie_ubuntu> HI, how do I change a hard-drive name?
[03:36] <epimeth> soontak: command not found
[03:36] <epimeth> newbie_ubuntu: hard drives dont have names
[03:36] <epimeth> newbie_ubuntu: could you be more specific?
[03:37] <epimeth> newbie_ubuntu: you want to change its mount point? (where it is located in the filesystem)
[03:37] <newbie_ubuntu> for example: i mount /dev/sdb4 to /media/games, but when I open dolphin, I see its name is DATA
[03:38] <newbie_ubuntu> so I want to change DATA to Games, is it possible?
[03:38] <epimeth> you see /media/DATA ?
[03:39] <newbie_ubuntu> yes(DATA in dolphin)
[03:40] <epimeth> newbie_ubuntu: open a konsole and type "cd /media"
[03:40] <epimeth> and then "ls"
[03:40] <epimeth> what do you see?
[03:41] <newbie_ubuntu> cdrom  cdrom0  floppy  floppy0  Games  Multimedia  win
[03:41] <epimeth> now "cd Games"
[03:41] <epimeth> and ls
[03:41] <epimeth> is that your drive?
[03:42] <epimeth> also, is this a windows mount?
[03:42] <newbie_ubuntu> but why in dolphin: games=> DATA
[03:42] <epimeth> newbie_ubuntu: exactly what I'm wondering.  are you sure you're seeing DATA in /media???
[03:42] <epimeth> because that doesn't seem right
[03:42] <newbie_ubuntu> yes,
[03:43] <newbie_ubuntu> but just in dolphin
[03:43] <newbie_ubuntu> in windows, its label is Games
[03:44] <epimeth> newbie_ubuntu: thats really strange... I don't know much about dolphin
[03:44] <epimeth> stick around... someone else might be able to help you
[03:44] <newbie_ubuntu> ok, thanks anyway
[03:45] <newbie_ubuntu> I'll try to find out
[03:45] <epimeth> soontak: you still here?  I don't have displayconfig
[03:46] <zennon_guerra> i need help me
[03:46] <zennon_guerra> i need hel
[03:47] <zennon_guerra> first, my english is terrible
[03:47] <zennon_guerra> but i will try
[03:47] <zennon_guerra> i am new with linux
[03:48] <epimeth> zennon_guerra: just ask
[03:48] <zennon_guerra> and i want to know how to use compiz
[03:48] <zennon_guerra> ?
[03:48] <soontak> epimeth: yeah, which kubuntu version are you using? have u try to reboot into recovery mode and select on 'Fix X server' ?
[03:48] <zennon_guerra> 8,1,0
[03:49] <zennon_guerra> and kde 4,1
[03:49] <epimeth> soontak: ibex.  recovery mode isn't just a root shell?
[03:49] <zennon_guerra> so, i do everything but nothing happen
[03:50] <soontak> epimeth: in kubuntu 8.04, there are options for u to choose
[03:51] <soontak> epimeth: fix X or root shell.... and .... cant remember all
[03:51] <birnisson> hi, are there kde 4.2 beta packages for intrepid?
[03:53] <soontak> epimeth: if u r using 7.10, maybe u can try this command on root: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:54] <epimeth> soontak: I tried that... it did literally nothing :-)
[03:54] <epimeth> soontak: but again, I'm using 8.10
[03:57] <soontak> epimeth: no idea then...
[03:57] <epimeth> heh
[04:00] <soontak> epimeth: boot into recovery mode then, maybe some surprise for u?
[04:01] <Jabrroa_BBL> lol
[04:01] <bdizzle> so I am going to be wiping one of the partitions of my desktop hard drive to install 8.10 soon.
[04:01] <bdizzle> any recommendations on which files (other than the home folder) to back up?
[04:02] <Jabrroa_BBL> the whole thing
[04:02] <Jabrroa_BBL> and pick out whats you need later
[04:02] <bdizzle> that's kinda what I am doing
[04:02] <bdizzle> just copy paste onto another hard drive
[04:03] <Jabrroa_BBL> thats a good idea cuz if you forget something
[04:03] <Jabrroa_BBL> not good lol
[04:03] <bdizzle> true
[04:03] <jabrroa> yea thats the way i do it and it has always come in handy later
[04:04] <jabrroa> cuz you dont always remember everything :)
[04:05] <jabrroa> i dont recommend kubuntu though lol
[04:07] <jabrroa> big on system resources. not that i have trouble with 3 nvidia 9800 GTX's with 1 gb video ram each in SLI mode. with 32 GB of corsair dominator ram and a AMD phenom 9850 black edition quad core
[04:08] <jabrroa> :) this baby flys'
[04:08] <bdizzle> lol
[04:08] <bdizzle> its sad, I built my system a long time ago and I've forgotten what I put in it
[04:09] <bdizzle> I know it has 2 GB of mem, it does have a video card on it but it wasn't working on 8.04 so I temporarily took it out. Gigabyte single core (its what was available at the time)
[04:09] <jabrroa> its not really worth it lol two years later its crap anyways
[04:09] <epimeth> I have a crappy old lappy that barely runs XP, but kubuntu is just fine....
[04:10] <jabrroa> yea kubuntu is just to much like windows for me lol
[04:10] <jabrroa> i switched to debian
[04:10] <epimeth> debian was nice, but I find kubuntu easier to deal with
[04:11] <epimeth> better community, easier initial settings
[04:11] <jmichaelx> jabrroa: that is strange, because i use both debian and k/ubuntu, and for the life of me, you must be seeing a greater difference betweenthem than i am...
[04:11] <jabrroa> yea well lol
[04:11]  * DaSkreech hugs epimeth
[04:12] <jabrroa> maybe i just have to much graphical settings lol
[04:12]  * epimeth wags his tail
[04:12] <jabrroa> i liked ubuntu better even
[04:12] <bdizzle> okay, my kubuntu harddrive is 10 GB of data
[04:13] <Out_Cold> epimeth, i used that link for the shmconfig and that shut off my touch pad typing..
[04:13] <jabrroa> yea
[04:13] <bdizzle> this is going to take all night, which I don't really have. Any suggestions on which folders to copy
[04:13] <Out_Cold> *tapping
[04:13] <jmichaelx> the main thing in debian testing's favor for me right now, is having an up-to-date system that is still running KDE3
[04:13]  * jmichaelx hugs KDE3
[04:13] <epimeth> Out_Cold: good :-)
[04:13] <bdizzle> KDE3 is nice
[04:13]  * epimeth misses kde3
[04:13] <Out_Cold> now i just gotta start liking KDE before i throw it out
[04:14] <DaSkreech> bdizzle: what are you trying to do?
[04:14] <DaSkreech> epimeth: install it
[04:14] <epimeth> but I've been phasing myself into kde4 since they announced that ibex was going to be just 4, so i'm pretty used to it
[04:14] <jabrroa> i use backtrack3 and open suse occasionally
[04:14] <bdizzle> back up the hard drive so that in caes I need to go back to 8.04, I can copy back the user files and such
[04:14] <epimeth> DaSkreech: does it come with all the new stuff?  Network manager and the like?
[04:15] <jmichaelx> epimeth: i like KDE4, and it is definitely _going_ to be nice, but right now it just isn't mature enough to be considered a stable desktop
[04:15] <DaSkreech> bdizzle: Ah You need a /home partition
[04:15] <bdizzle> right now its saying about 30 minutes remaining
[04:15] <jabrroa> no definatly not lol
[04:15] <bdizzle> on my desktop, yeah, I do
[04:15] <jabrroa> lol
[04:15] <bdizzle> how large should I consider making it?
[04:15] <jabrroa> funny
[04:15] <epimeth> DaSkreech: btw, you wouldn't happen to know how to check which graphics driver I'm using?  my xorg.conf is empty
[04:15] <DaSkreech> epimeth: No I've given up on Xorg
[04:16] <epimeth> DaSkreech: lol... what are you using? :-)
[04:16] <DaSkreech> Y :)
[04:16] <jmichaelx> epimeth: i have been wondering the same thing... i just can't adjust to these changes!
[04:16] <bdizzle> or actually, I guess the better question is on a 100 GB dedicated space, how much should I allocate the root vs home partitions?
[04:16] <DaSkreech> root 20
[04:17] <bdizzle> and how do I set up the /home partition vs just install everything
[04:17] <epimeth> I've adjusted except for lack of katapult... and I can't figure out how to map alt+space to alt+f2
[04:17] <matiasdj87> HI!
[04:17] <DaSkreech> bdizzle: custom partition on install
[04:17] <DaSkreech> epimeth: That should be partly fixed in 4.2
[04:17] <DaSkreech> With quicksand
[04:17] <epimeth> ???
[04:17] <DaSkreech> !hi
[04:17] <Out_Cold> bdizzle, your root partition can be around 10-15 gb and be more than fine
[04:18] <DaSkreech> Seriously
[04:18] <DaSkreech>  my / is 7 GB and I've never filled it
[04:18] <Out_Cold> yea.. i use 8
[04:18] <jabrroa> i have a 50gb
[04:18] <bdizzle> okay
[04:18] <jabrroa> but i have 5TB of space...
[04:18] <bdizzle> so 20 GB on root, the other 80 GB for home
[04:18] <bdizzle> lol
[04:18] <jabrroa> i will NEVER run out lol
[04:18] <DaSkreech> jabrroa: you can install all of main and universe in that and still have space
[04:18] <bdizzle> I've got about 280 GB combined or so
[04:19] <jabrroa> i know :) and i got the sata's for free :)
[04:19] <Out_Cold> you'll never need more than 10 Gb
[04:19] <bdizzle> jabrroa: don't say that, Bill Gates will find a way to make the minimum install for windows 2015 to be 1 TB
[04:19] <epimeth> ahaha... I've heard *that* before
[04:19] <jabrroa> i do ALOT of downloading though
[04:19] <DaSkreech> Out_Cold: No You'll never need more than 640k
[04:19] <Out_Cold> haha
[04:19] <jabrroa> lol
[04:19] <jabrroa> i dont use windows :):):):):)
[04:19] <Out_Cold> ok well he shouldn't ever need more than 10
[04:20] <bdizzle> heh, lucky you.
[04:20] <bdizzle> I still have to dual boot whenever I come across something wine won't run
[04:20] <jabrroa> my uncle works for WD
[04:20] <jabrroa> use virtual boox
[04:20] <epimeth> bdizzle: why not install virtualbox?  it works great
[04:20] <jabrroa> :)
[04:20] <jabrroa> i win
[04:20] <jabrroa> i said it first
[04:20] <jabrroa> :)
[04:20] <epimeth> also, why didn't you download crossover? it was free for a day!
[04:21] <epimeth> I *know* I came in here and let everyone know
[04:21]  * DaSkreech gives jabrroa a box ... virtually
[04:21] <jabrroa> i did but not on free day
[04:21] <DaSkreech> You won!!
[04:21] <bdizzle> epimeth: I did
[04:21] <jabrroa> :)
[04:21] <jabrroa> :0
[04:21] <jabrroa> no
[04:21] <jabrroa> :(
[04:21] <bdizzle> but only on my laptop, haven't had a chance to install on desktop
[04:21] <jabrroa> do it :)
[04:22] <bdizzle> I need to figure out how to transfer about 10 GB of research data files to my desktop without a cable
[04:22] <epimeth> bdizzle: 3 dvds?
[04:22] <jabrroa> teamviewer and 50 years lol
[04:22] <bdizzle> lol
[04:22] <DaSkreech> pop out the hard drive?
[04:22] <bdizzle> I've got a 2 GB jump drive, but I was hoping to do it all in once
[04:22] <bdizzle> nea, not going that route
[04:23] <DaSkreech> booooring
[04:23] <bdizzle> I can't afford to lose either computer thanks
[04:27] <jabrroa> pull out the HDD
[04:27] <jabrroa> plug it into the other one
[04:27] <jabrroa> dump files
[04:27] <jabrroa> plug it back in to other one
[04:29] <bdizzle> one is a desktop, the other a laptop, doesn't work that way that I am aware of
[04:31] <epimeth> buy a case for the laptop hd.... 10 bucks on ebay
[04:31] <epimeth> thats what i did....
[04:31] <Daisuke_Ido> probably not.  you can set up nfs shares
[04:32] <Daisuke_Ido> just copy over the local network
[04:32] <epimeth> Daisuke_Ido: "no cables"
[04:33] <jabrroa> lol
[04:33] <Daisuke_Ido> carrier pigeon
[04:33] <Daisuke_Ido> or do it over the local wireless network :D
[04:36] <jabrroa> haha carrier pigeon..... :P
[04:36] <jabrroa> teamviewer and a whole 4 years to wait :)
[04:39] <frozty_sa> morning all. is there any known bug of firefox becoming incredibly shitty after an update or something since roundabout last friday?
[04:41] <jabrroa> how would one obtain compiz fusion for KDE4?
[04:42] <epimeth> jabrroa: its integrated
[04:42] <bdizzle> ... I thought it came with compiz fusion
[04:42] <epimeth> K -> settings -> desktop -> desktop effects
[04:42] <jabrroa> well how would i apply a theme i have in emerald?
[04:44] <jabrroa> ??
[05:19] <Relyc> hello
[05:19] <Relyc> >??test
[05:20] <Relyc> ok hehe  sry thnx
[05:23] <Relyc> i cant set up a network with another ubuntu machine it says permission denied in the main user on a non protected file
[05:36] <bdizzle> okay, this is a bit strange
[05:39] <bdizzle> hello?
[05:39] <rjune_> sup
[05:39] <bdizzle> hi
[05:40] <bdizzle> so for some reason, when trying to install 8.10 from the live CD, it claims I have no partitions ... or hard drives for that matter
[05:42] <Out_Cold> the hard drive needs to be mounted
[05:42] <bdizzle> wouldn't it do that though when it loads the live CD?
[05:42] <rjune_> Out_Cold: while technically that might be correct. it's also useless
[05:42] <Out_Cold> should have done it...
[05:42] <rjune_> bdizzle: boot the live cd, then open a terminal
[05:42] <Out_Cold> well it gives him a direction.
[05:42] <rjune_> run 'dmesg | less'
[05:42] <Out_Cold> i'm a noob too
[05:42] <rjune_> look for sda as that should be your hard drive
[05:43] <rjune_> I'm guessing for whatever reason your sata controller isn't being detected
[05:43] <rjune_> is it RAID?
[05:43] <bdizzle> k, hold on just a second
[05:43] <bdizzle> no, IDE
[05:43] <bdizzle> both physical drives are
[05:43] <rjune_> might be hda then. I don't remember
[05:43] <Deepthought> How can I get all disks (including the NTFS ones) to be accessible from the start, instead of having to give a password each time on first access ?
[05:43] <rjune_> still you should see it listed as detected
[05:43] <bdizzle> some of them are hda, some are sda
[05:43] <Out_Cold> hda is IDE
[05:43] <bdizzle> ugh, not sure anyore
[05:44] <bdizzle> Deepthought: not sure, I did it a long time ago and its kinda messed up my system since
[05:44] <rjune_> bdizzle: look for da, "/da"
[05:44] <bdizzle> hold on
[05:44] <bdizzle> restarting computer with 8.10 disk in it
[05:45] <Deepthought> bdizzle: what´s messed up yer system ?
[05:45] <bdizzle> um ... me, making a lot of changes I wasn't quite sure what I was doing of patching things together
[05:46] <Deepthought> bdizzle: in KDE3 there was a tab for disk-automount in systemsettings, now on 4 there´s no such thing
[05:46] <bdizzle> ah, okay
[05:46] <bdizzle> well, the structure has got to be the same, which means there has to be some way to set it via CLI
[05:46] <bdizzle> which is why with the latest Grub 25 error, I said screw it and decided just to back everything up. Now that I've got it working to boot and such, I'm just going to wipe and start over
[05:47] <rjune_> except that it's not finding your hard drive
[05:47] <rjune_> or rather, doesn't seem to be
[05:49] <bdizzle> okay, I have it loaded off the live CD
[05:49] <frozty_sa> does anyone know of a bug in which firefox became incredibly shitty after an update or something since roundabout last friday?
[05:49] <frozty_sa> the problem I'm having is that firefox is incredibly slow to respond on both my laptop and my PC
[05:49] <bdizzle> what am I running?
[05:54] <bdizzle> okay, this is going to be crazy with all the partitions, but it will at least help in future upgrades
[05:55] <bdizzle> how do I take an existing 100 GB partition of Kubuntu 8.04 and split it so that I have a 15 GB partition for root and an 85 GB partition for home?
[05:57] <Out_Cold> bdizzle, do a custom partition and make sure you format your sections to ext3 and mount the 15 GB partition as / and the 85GB as /home
[05:57] <bdizzle> okay
[05:57] <bdizzle> that's what I needed
[05:57] <bdizzle> 15000 MB = 15 GB, right?
[05:58] <Out_Cold> close enough
[05:58] <bdizzle> ok
[05:58] <Out_Cold> i think you can even do 15 GB
[05:58] <bdizzle> and that will be large enough for root, no matter how many programs I do?
[05:58] <Out_Cold> yea.
[05:58] <bdizzle> no, it wants partition size in MB still
[05:58] <bdizzle> should I go for 20 GB for future just to be safe?
[05:59] <bdizzle> or is 15 GB already too much?
[05:59] <Out_Cold> you can always mount more space after
[05:59] <Out_Cold> i have never used more than 10 myself
[05:59] <bdizzle> okay
[05:59] <Out_Cold> except on my server..
[05:59] <Out_Cold> but i just mounted another hard drive to accommodate
[06:00] <bdizzle> lol, okay
[06:00] <bdizzle> alright, so I have 15 GB as root, and about 94 GB as home, fun
[06:01] <bdizzle> ext3 is still the safest, right?
[06:01] <bdizzle> for general use
[06:01] <Out_Cold> what i have done with mine is set aside an extra few GB for a transfer partition... has worked well for safe guarding files
[06:01] <Out_Cold> yea
[06:01] <Out_Cold> it's safer than the others
[06:02] <bdizzle> yeah, I've already got another HD on here with 80 GB total (half of that used for windows XP), with two other partitions on this HD with another 200 GB or so
[06:02] <bdizzle> gah, pretty soon they are going to have to make these liveCDs a two CD set
[06:02] <Out_Cold> yea.. i use LVMs on my server and have about 8-9 partitions on there
[06:03] <bdizzle> its crazy
[06:03] <bdizzle> I'm glad I discovered partitions though, its easier to sort through files and back stuff up
[06:04] <Out_Cold> it'll pay when you tarball your data and learn to cat or ssh it to a backup..
[06:04] <bdizzle> lol
[06:05] <bdizzle> if only I could figure that out
[06:05] <bdizzle> or at least how to set up my own ssh
[06:05] <Out_Cold> not too difficult. ssh only needs openssh installed..
[06:05] <Out_Cold> * openssh_server maybe
[06:06] <Out_Cold> search for it in the package manager
[06:06] <Out_Cold> then you open port 22 in your firewall
[06:06] <Out_Cold> i learned it all in gnome.. not sure the exact programs for KDE
[06:08] <bdizzle> okay
[06:08] <Out_Cold> firestarter was the app i used for the firewall GUI
[06:08] <bdizzle> okay, so since 8.04 uses KDE3 and 8.10 uses KDE4, can I still copy over my old home folder and get it to load things back up?
[06:08] <bdizzle> yeah, I've used firestarter before. Nice program. Click  it and forget it
[06:08] <Out_Cold> that i dunno about
[06:09] <scribbles> bdizzle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto
[06:09] <bdizzle> thanks
[06:12] <PsiKloPx> hiya
[06:12] <bdizzle> hi
[06:13] <bdizzle> my apologizes for believing that #kde might kow
[06:13] <bdizzle> *know
[06:13] <PsiKloPx> hey, suppose one downloaded and installed the latest Kubuntu version, then wanted switch to Ubuntu.  Is this a pain or even possible?
[06:14] <Out_Cold> one way you'll find out bdizzle is trying it out
[06:14] <Out_Cold> PsiKloPx, it's easy
[06:15] <bdizzle> true
[06:15] <Out_Cold> you just need to install the default gnome packages... can't remember them all exactly atm
[06:15] <bdizzle> PsiKloPx: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop, I believe
[06:16] <PsiKloPx> bdizzie:then I would have the option to switch at start-up?
[06:17] <Out_Cold> yea it's in the choose session
[06:17] <Out_Cold> can load several managers and environments
[06:18] <Out_Cold> but be weary cuz each of the desktop environments load each of their own sets of apps to use
[06:18] <PsiKloPx> gnome-desktop isn't correct.
[06:19] <PsiKloPx> just tried gnome, that worked.
[06:19] <PsiKloPx> or it appears to be working at any rate.
[06:19] <Out_Cold> might need more though
[06:20] <Out_Cold> actually gnome should work..
[06:20] <Out_Cold> although that wasn't a default install on my ubuntu install
[06:23] <bdizzle> I didn't really like GNOME to be honest. No offense to anyone, but it just seemed too clunky to me
[06:23] <bdizzle> yes, it got the job done, no questions asked about that
[06:24] <bdizzle> but it just didn't have the grace and elegance that KDE seems to have
[06:25] <andyman1> i had a quick grub question, if i remember correctly, i can make grub instantly auto-boot to the default partition, without showing anything, but also be able to hit ESC to abort that and choose manually, i need to boot default after 0 seconds, and enable hide boot menu
[06:25] <PsiKloPx> well, I'm a noob when it comes to linux.  I want to be able to play around with each and see which I like.
[06:25] <Out_Cold> yea.. well i can say the same type of things about kde.... lack of tidyness.. weird menu layouts lol
[06:25] <andyman1> trying out the kde grub editor in kubuntu,
[06:26] <Out_Cold> all preferences
[06:26] <noaXess> how can i search for installed package only in konsole?
[06:27] <bdizzle> point taken
[06:32] <Pyles17> How do I "reset" kubuntu? Trying to fix my wireless, I changed a lot of things, and don't remember what they all were
[06:33] <bdizzle> reinstall it?
[06:33] <Pyles17> any shorter way?
[06:35] <andyman1> my bad-idea guess is delete all the hidden kde files in your home directory, and kde will rebuild those will defaults when you relogin. note i said bad-idea, as it really is probably a bad idea
[06:35] <andyman1> i remember some programs working that way, dunno if it applies to kde as well
[06:35] <andyman1> again, probably a very bad idea =p
[06:35] <woodefec> hey
[06:36] <andyman1> no takers on my grub question?
[06:36] <noaXess> Pyles17: why reset? no wireless adapter?
[06:36] <woodefec> is that normal - the KDE theme in kubuntu 8.10 isn't held by the system, it always gets back to Oxygen
[06:37] <woodefec> and my user hasn't been in the group users
[06:37] <woodefec> and third thing: i don't know where's the Firefox menu position in kmenu
[06:37] <bdizzle> crap, I just remembered I need something because I'm connecting to the school network
[06:37] <bdizzle> I think it is Java (Sun's version of it) and Firefox
[06:37] <bdizzle> it won't accept Konqueror for some resaon
[06:37] <bdizzle> *reason
[06:38] <woodefec> andyman1: what the grub question?
[06:38] <woodefec> is someone having the kubuntu issues i mentioned?
[06:38] <woodefec> oh, one more, i start firefox and get just nothing
[06:38] <andyman1> i want grub to insta-auto-boot the default partition, with no prompts or obvious hints grub is there, i'd also like to hit a button to abort that, and manually choose
[06:39] <woodefec> only from time to time it starts
[06:39] <andyman1> i think hide grub menu, and boot default in 0 sec is what i want, but wanted to confirm before i accidentally get stuck that way
[06:39] <Pyles17> noaXess: I have the intel 3945 card, which is problematic anyways. It only connected sometimes. so in trying to fix it I tried a bunch of people's advice, changed a bunch of things, and now it doesn't even connect sometimes
[06:39] <woodefec> andyman1: kgrubeditor
[06:40] <noaXess> Pyles17: have you tried wicd?
[06:40] <andyman1> i've got the grub editor, just wanted to confirm those are the changes i need to do that properly
[06:40] <noaXess> Pyles17: what tool you use for connecting to a wlan?
[06:40] <Pyles17> noaXess: the one that comes installed with it?
[06:41] <Pyles17> with kubuntu*
[06:41] <woodefec> well, youshould increasethe decision time to 3 from what i understood
[06:42] <woodefec> oh, andyman1,  u  better be careful, leaving the time to 0 might prevent you from going runlevel 3 or failsafe stuff or memtest
[06:43] <andyman1> ah ok
[06:43] <woodefec> are you guys having this stuff: kde4 and qt settings go back to Oxygen theme, even if Ichoose another
[06:43] <bdizzle> alright, why does Kubuntu 8.10 take 30 seconds to log off?
[06:43] <andyman1> my goal here is *boot* "oh that's just windows, nothing to see here" *boot + keypress* "i can choose my boot option"
[06:44] <woodefec> i don't quote understand, andyman1
[06:44] <woodefec> *quote = quite
[06:44] <woodefec> aaaaaaaaa
[06:44] <woodefec> sorry, now i understand
[06:45] <andyman1> i want to turn on the computer, and have it appear to boot straight to windows, as if windows is the only thing there (to the untrained eye), and then have a way to abort that and choose linux when i want
[06:45] <andyman1> aka "these aren't the droids you're looking for"
[06:45] <woodefec> well, check internet  for advanced grub instructions and be careful. Always have a Knoppix Live or equivalent
[06:45] <noaXess> Pyles17: try wicd http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[06:46] <andyman1> k
[06:46] <bdizzle> wicd is nice
[06:46] <bdizzle> very clean interface, easy to set up
[06:46] <noaXess> bdizzle: jep ;)
[06:47] <Pyles17> noaXess: k, but i'm not sure if that will do it. the main problem is that it can't find the driver for the card most of the time. and then sometimes it finds it
[06:47] <noaXess> Pyles17: aha.. ok..thats another information.. hm...
[06:47] <noaXess> wait..
[06:48] <noaXess> Pyles17: just a simple google search: http://www.google.ch/search?hl=de&q=ubuntu+intel+3945&btnG=Google-Suche&meta=
[06:49] <noaXess> Pyles17: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/IntrepidReleaseNotes/de#Probleme%20bei%20Intel%203945/4965%20im%20Zusammenhang%20mit%20eingeschaltetem%20Killswitch
[06:49] <binMonkey> hi.  i just bought a linksys router, 192.168.1.1  my dsl modem, 192,168.0.1, plugs into it.  should i change the address on the dsl to match the router?
[06:49] <noaXess> german sorry..
[06:50] <Pyles17> noaXess: are you swiss, or do you just like to do your google searches in german?
[06:50] <noaXess> Pyles17: sorry.. jep sqitzerland ;)
[06:50] <Pyles17> noaXess: it's all good
[06:50] <noaXess> .. switzerland ^
[06:52] <noaXess> Pyles17: jsuta  info for your card.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsIntel
[06:53] <noaXess> Pyles17: what driver des the wlan card uses?
[06:55] <Pyles17> iwlwifi 3945
[06:56] <Pyles17> but i think i blacklisted that trying to use ipw3945 to see if that would work
[06:56] <bdizzle> meh, the one part of upgrading to a new OS is trying to copy over all your old files and getting back your old programs
[06:56] <bdizzle> a computer can only copy stuff so quickly before it just hates you
[07:00] <bdizzle> is there an icon for a "Home" folder of type?
[07:01] <bdizzle> last time I used the icon for kfm_home
[07:02] <bdizzle> or one for trash for that matter?
[07:02] <Pyles17> noaXess: i actually didn't blacklist iwlwifi 3945
[07:04] <noaXess> Pyles17: do you had this problem also on the fresh install of kubuntu? what abou booting from the kubuntu live cd and test the wlan? i should be loaded and usable from the live cd..
[07:04] <Pyles17> tried that, it didn't work
[07:05] <noaXess> ok
[07:05] <noaXess> Pyles17: have you any usb wlan stick to test?
[07:05] <Pyles17> I've pretty much come to the conclusion that the intel 3945 cards are not compatible with linux
[07:05] <Pyles17> noaXess: i forgot about that, just a minute
[07:05] <noaXess> Pyles17: it should.. but it can also be damaged..
[07:06] <noaXess> hardware problem.. or does it worked in any other way?
[07:07] <Pyles17> noaXess: windows xp works perfectly
[07:07] <noaXess> Pyles17: ok.. than it's a driver problem..
[07:08] <Pyles17> noaXess: yeah, i know. and a belkin sticks works right away
[07:08] <Pyles17> stick*
[07:09] <noaXess> Pyles17: thats a good information ;)
[07:09] <noaXess> hm.. just wait in this channel.. and ask again later.. you will find a solution.. i had it also with a intel wlan and fixed it..
[07:09] <Pyles17> yeah. eventually
[07:10] <noaXess> Pyles17: bye the way.. latest kernel installed?
[07:10] <Pyles17> noaXess: Well, i have 8.10, but i don't know if that means anything. I'm brand new to Linux
[07:12] <noaXess> Pyles17: just install all the updates and the system should be up to date..
[07:12] <noaXess> Pyles17: run konsole and input this command to se the kernel version: uname -a
[07:13] <Pyles17> 2.6.27-7-generic #1 SMP Tue Nov 4 19:33:20 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:13] <myth> hello everyone
[07:17] <noaXess> Pyles17: yhould be the latest available..
[07:17] <noaXess> now.. have a meeting.. nice day all.. bye
[07:17] <Pyles17> noaXess: bye
[07:17] <gl_> I just updated openoffce 3.0.4 and it stopped working. Does anybody have the same problem?
[07:19] <bdizzle> oh joy, first problem already
[07:19] <bdizzle> tried to enable desktop effects, I now have a black screen with a movable white cursor
[07:21] <bdizzle> ugh, fried the system already
[07:21] <bdizzle> sad part is that it was undergoing an update, and I'm afraid to ask what software it decided to hose
[07:34] <eagles0513875> woot im good
[07:39] <bdizzle> who broke Adept in 8.10?
[07:40] <eagles0513875> u did
[07:40] <eagles0513875> im having no issues
[07:40] <eagles0513875> i have a vm with 8.10 but then again i did take the ubuntu server version and add kde to it
[07:41] <bdizzle> for some reasoning the right panel that shows the names of programs and such keeps garbling up, as if the graphics aren't rendering properly
[07:44] <eagles0513875> i have no idea bdizzle
[07:46] <bdizzle> also, how do I turn down the sensitivity on my mouse. It seems to be skipping over and doing double and triple of what I ask it to
[07:58] <ubuntu> test
[07:59] <bdizzle> I hate my mouse
[07:59] <bdizzle> it won't cooperate on anything I do
[08:00] <mankeletor> so i hate my touchpad xD
[08:00] <bdizzle> lol
[08:01] <bdizzle> how do I move around things on the new kicker or whatever that new panel along the bottom of KDE4 is called
[08:01] <bdizzle> ugh
[08:02] <mankeletor> im still trying to config the screen here :P
[08:03] <kabotage> how do i fix this? everytime i login it wont let me log in and all i see is the login page and it justs repeat. im on a liveCD btw.
[08:03] <bdizzle> this is perhaps the most frustrating KDE version I've seen yet
[08:05] <mankeletor> KDE come back! plz!!
[08:05] <mankeletor> yay
[08:06] <kabotage> ummmm. anyone?
[08:06] <bdizzle> hi
[08:06] <bdizzle> how do I re-arrange widgets on the kicker panel in KDE4?
[08:15] <mankeletor> right click on kicker and then select configuration panel
[08:15] <mankeletor> for re-arrange the icons on KDE4
[08:19] <bdizzle> thanks
[08:30] <eagles05> what package do i need to install for a really stripped down version of kde
[08:31] <eagles0513875> what package do i need to install for a really stripped down version of kde
[08:32] <bdizzle> xubuntu I think you mean
[08:32] <eagles0513875> bdizzle ???
[08:33] <bdizzle> xubuntu, its not kde anymore though
[08:33] <eagles0513875> i want a stripped down pkg of kde
[08:33] <eagles0513875> not xubuntu
[08:35] <eagles0513875> bdizzle all u install is kde-core
[08:36] <bdizzle> oh, okay
[08:36] <bdizzle> grr, how do I get w32codecs from CLI? It keeps claiming that the package is not available, but is referred to by another package
[08:36] <eagles0513875> !w32codecs
[08:37] <eagles0513875> bdizzle run apt-cache search w32codecs
[08:37] <eagles0513875> and u need that repository enabled as well see link above
[08:37] <bdizzle> okay
[08:37] <faileas> bdizzle: got medibuntu installed?
[08:38] <faileas> er.. too slow ;p
[08:38] <bdizzle> yes
[08:39] <bdizzle> it claims it has no installation candidate
[08:39] <eagles0513875> what codecs u need outa there anyway
[08:40] <bdizzle> just libdvdcss2
[08:41] <eagles0513875> there is no open source alternative
[08:41] <eagles0513875> !multimedia
[08:41] <bdizzle> k, hold on, I need to figureo ut why medibuntu isn't registering
[08:44] <bdizzle> I think I got it, I was just missing the keyring
[08:57] <spidla> hi there, has anyone ubuntu package of kbfx compiled for kde4 ?
[09:31] <bdizzle> here is a crazy question
[09:31] <Daisuke_Ido> no, the universe will not implode if you take the do not remove tag off of your pillow
[09:31] <bdizzle> lol
[09:31] <zoggy> where do you add a directory plasmoid in intrepid please
[09:32] <bdizzle> under Login Manager, is it possible to have the Greeting field as "Good morning _____ " if it is before 12:00 PM and "Good afternoon ____ " if it is between 12:00 PM - 4:59 PM and "Good evening ____" if it is between 5 PM and midnight?
[09:32] <Daisuke_Ido> that's a good question, i don't think i've ever attempted that
[09:32] <Daisuke_Ido> mostly since this machine never logs out
[09:32] <bdizzle> lol
[09:35] <bdizzle> oh, you know what would be good. A computerized voice to say that greeting to you
[09:35] <zoggy> sorry how do i add a directory plasmoid?
[09:36] <vipava> hi
[09:38] <livingdaylight> hello!
[09:39] <livingdaylight> i iz in kubuntu 4.1 !
[09:40] <bdizzle> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/QuickAccess?content=84128
[09:40] <bdizzle> might help for that directory plasmoid
[09:40] <markus_> Guten Tag. wer kann mir mit folgendem problem weiterhelfen bitte: ubuntu 8.04 loading grub, please wait error 2. besten dank
[09:40] <zoggy> thanks so much bdizzle!
[09:41] <zoggy> i'll check it out
[09:41] <zoggy> i'm feeling pretty stupid in the new kde
[09:42] <bdizzle> zoggy: I just installed it a few hours ago and have already swore at it a few times
[09:43] <livingdaylight> kubuntu doesn't have an Intrepid Ibex on Destop :[
[09:43] <zoggy> bdizzle: haha!! it's going to be amazing once it's all smoothed out, but right now my productivity is rock-bottom. i really miss the quick browser and kate external tools. also the show desktop concept is making me want to hurt myself
[09:43] <bdizzle> yeah, the desktop is annoying
[09:44] <bdizzle> I through firefox back on there to make me feel better, and what is up with kate? they butchered it. That command line at the bottom of it was useful
[09:46] <zoggy> bdizzle: i'm busy downloading the firefox-qt - keen to see whether that integrates better
[09:47] <bdizzle> gotcha
[09:47] <bdizzle> hey zoggy, silly question
[09:47] <bdizzle> how much do you know about the login manager?
[09:47] <zoggy> bdizzle: i'm still getting the hang of the new kate. it's got some great stuff
[09:47] <zoggy> bdizzle: a little. not too much. why?
[09:48] <livingdaylight> hey kubuntu looks nice but its very blue and i would like to see an Ibex on my desktop. iz possible?
[09:49] <bdizzle> I'm trying to change around the Greeting
[09:49] <bdizzle> it'd be nice to at least have my computer say good morning to me through a sound byte, or good afternoon / evening depending on the time
[09:51] <afd____> hi! using latest ubuntu on a laptop (kde 4.1), I want to set the cpu speed policy (I don't want it to go up on load, it starts the fans and heats the laptop). How do I achieve this? Pretty please...
[09:51] <livingdaylight> bdizzle: its the least you can expect from your computer, i agree
[09:51] <zoggy> can login manager play sound bytes? i wasn't aware of that. perhaps the sound byte could be after login manager
[09:51] <bdizzle> I don't know if I can, I was wondering if anyone knew if it was possible
[09:51] <zoggy> afd____: right-click on the battery icon in the system tray
[09:53] <afd____> zoggy: thanks. I've put it on powersave, it locked my screen when I did that... now let's see what effect it has...
[09:53] <bdizzle> okay, this is going to sound crazy, but its about the closest example I can think of
[09:54] <zoggy> bdizzle: i'm really not sure hey. maybe that's you should ask it's developers as a start... i'd like to see the kwalletmanager integrated with login-manager, so you type your password once
[09:54] <bdizzle> remember in the movie Independence Day with Will Smith, when they are up flying around the crashed ship up to the mothership. David opens his laptop and it says "Good morning David"
[09:54] <bdizzle> I'd be interesting to see something like that before the desktop opens
[09:55] <zoggy> bdizzle: i do remember that
[09:56] <bdizzle> I know its crazy, but hell, why not
[09:58] <bdizzle> actually, shouldn't linux have voice recognition and such by now?
[10:00] <TinCeeK> is there anyone bored like me .?
[10:06] <newbie_ubuntu> help me: I've downloaded a theme (rpm file) from kubuntu-art, how can I install it?
[10:07] <bdizzle> use alien to convert to a .deb file? maybe?
[10:10] <newbie_ubuntu> ah, I figured it out
[10:18] <livingdaylight> is Konqueror better in some way than Firefox?
[10:18] <OxDeadC0de> just as a file browser, for web surfing I say firefox
[10:18] <livingdaylight> like in what case would i prefer firing up Konqueror than firefox?
[10:18] <livingdaylight> ic
[10:18] <livingdaylight> i thought Dolphin was for browsing files
[10:19] <livingdaylight> when i click on the 'K' button it shows Konqueror as the  default browser that is why i wondered
[10:20] <OxDeadC0de> it is but konqueror is a lot more mature than dolphin for it, dolphin is new
[10:21]  * gnomefreak loves dolphin 
[10:27] <ziad> salute
[10:27] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: i using kubuntu for first time
[10:27] <livingdaylight> its vrey diffrent to ubuntu
[10:28] <ziad__> oui
[10:28] <livingdaylight> is there a guide for kubuntu 4.1?
[10:28] <livingdaylight> ziad__: ca va?
[10:28] <ziad__> ca va bien
[10:29] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: yeah the GUI is a bit differeant but KDE has QT versions of just about all Ubuntu packages and some are stricktly for kubuntu
[10:31] <livingdaylight> gnomefreak: yea, it s particularly re-orienting myslef to kde gui that i'm talking about
[10:33] <v6lur> can i get nvidia-glx-177 version 177.78 from anywhere? intrepid repos seem to have only 177.80 now
[10:33] <v6lur> the new version has "corruption" bug again :/
[10:34] <v6lur> (running hardy, with nvidia drivers from intrepid)
[10:42] <larsivi> hi - X doesn't start with the correct resolution (1680x1080 since I have external screen attached) but when I go to System Settings->Screen, it autoadjusts to correct size
[10:42] <larsivi> this suggests that X/KDE knows the correct resolution, it just doesn't apply it when it should
[10:42] <Oveer> Hello ?
[10:48] <v6lur> anyone?
[10:50] <livingdaylight> i'm having sound issues with skype... is this a well known problem with a well known solution?
[10:50] <livingdaylight> when i make test call i hear voice but don't get playback on my recorded voice
[10:50] <livingdaylight> tried options
[10:51] <livingdaylight> all other options are worse
[10:51] <livingdaylight> do i need to kill pulseaudio?
[10:53] <larsivi> livingdaylight: hmm, it is a config problem .. let me see if I remember how I fixed it
[10:53] <delicowa> for how long does the synaptic package information stay recent before needing to update it
[10:53] <larsivi> livingdaylight: yes, open a terminal and run alsamixer
[10:54] <larsivi> livingdaylight: navigate almost to the right, where it probably says analog (input), and press up arrow to change it to digital
[10:54] <larsivi> and exit and voila
[10:56] <livingdaylight> larsivi: hrmm... i have Master PCM Cd Mic Mic Boos IEC958 IEC958 D and IEC958 P which one on the right
[10:56] <larsivi> livingdaylight: ah, sorry, the one that is "Digital input source"
[10:56] <livingdaylight> larsivi: mic was right down, so maybe that was the problem
[10:57] <larsivi> livingdaylight: at least I know it is a typical problem (and was to me) that the digital source was set to analog
[10:58] <livingdaylight> ziad__: ca va?
[10:58] <livingdaylight> larsivi: where do you see "Digital input source" ?
[10:58] <larsivi> livingdaylight: in the upper left corner, behind Item:
[11:02] <Disturbed> Hi all
[11:03] <Disturbed> ÏÈÄÀÐÀÑÛ
[11:04] <delicowa> man you look really disturbed <DISTURBED>
[11:05] <Disturbed> no
[11:05] <Disturbed> but you?
[11:10] <mtux> hi, I was lost my eth0 controller!
[11:11] <mtux> i mean when i ask for sudo dhclient eth0
[11:11] <mtux> it get me: eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:11] <mtux> how can i reconfigure network controllers?
[11:12] <mtux> in Output of ifconfig, there isn't any eth0, too.
[11:13] <SlimeyPete> mtux: does networkmanager not work for you?
[11:13] <marco_> hello
[11:13] <mtux> SlimeyPete: no! it doesn't work
[11:15] <mtux> :-(
[11:16] <SlimeyPete> mtux: well the old-fashioned way of configuring network interfaces was to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[11:17] <mtux> SlimeyPete: so, there isn't any other way?
[11:17] <mtux> :-/
[11:17] <SlimeyPete> mtux: just those two ways, really.
[11:17] <SlimeyPete> did this happen after an upgrade, or something? Maybe you have a driver problem of some kind
[11:17] <mtux> SlimeyPete: oh, yes!
[11:18] <mtux> SlimeyPete: after i upgrade to 8.10
[11:18] <mtux> SlimeyPete: i got some problems on my wireless connection
[11:18] <mtux> SlimeyPete: someone told me to remove interfaces file
[11:18] <mtux> SlimeyPete: and after all, i restore it!
[11:18] <QuaxEros> mtux editing /etc/networks/interfaces is very simple for standard config... i'll give you a link
[11:19] <mtux> SlimeyPete: but my eth0 get lost :(
[11:19] <mtux> QuaxEros: thanks
[11:19] <SlimeyPete> networkmanager can conflict with the interfaces file, which is probably why they told you to remove it
[11:21] <QuaxEros> mtux  chapter ethernet should do. https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html
[11:22] <mtux> QuaxEros: thanks, i will try
[11:23] <QuaxEros> mtux copy interfaces to something like interfaces.ori(ginal) or something before you edit to be able to restore (always handy)!
[11:23] <mtux> QuaxEros: of course ;)
[11:23] <QuaxEros> mtux for wifi entry should be wlan0
[11:24] <zoggy> quick question: in a lot of screenshots, i see a folder view on people's plasma bars, but cannot find how to do that. is that the folder view? i've tried adding the folder view to my plasma bar, but it doesn't respond to clicking. i'm basically looking for the plasma equivalent to the quickbrowswer. any any ideas please? thanks
[11:25] <QuaxEros> mtux for your dns-server (often router address) edit /etc/resolv.conf
[11:26] <mtux> ok
[11:27] <mtux> QuaxEros: after editing interfaces file, i have to reboot system?
[11:27] <mtux> QuaxEros: or any service?
[11:27] <QuaxEros> mtux That's basicly all the steps you have to take. make sure you add "auto" to the first line for interface to come up automaticly to
[11:28] <mtux> ok, ty
[11:29] <QuaxEros> mtux do: ifdown eth0 (wlan0)  then: ifup eth0  or reboot to check if it comes up automaticly
[11:30] <QuaxEros> mtux do: sudo ifdown --- sudo ifup
[11:30] <bcs_> Hi!
[11:31] <mtux> QuaxEros: http://paste.gnudownload.org/show/2958
[11:31] <mtux> QuaxEros: :-/
[11:31] <marco__> hello
[11:31] <mtux> QuaxEros: ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
[11:33] <QuaxEros> mtux so it is not up ...continue sudo ifup eth0
[11:34] <mtux> QuaxEros: ifup give this result: http://paste.gnudownload.org/show/2958 :-/
[11:35] <ichat> question -   i seam to fail in finding more details about the  kubuntu   BT problem,  is it fixed yet?
[11:35] <QuaxEros> mtux ok OS does not see the card. is not configuration of options.
[11:36] <mtux> QuaxEros: so, what can i do now? :-/
[11:36] <bcs_> Q. My kubuntu desktop is refreshing periodically. Prewiously I had the Ubuntu/Gnome desktop, and there was no such problem... I use 8.10 and have a Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller
[11:37] <QuaxEros> mtux Look on ubuntu forums for installation of the card. Forums did help me a lot! Quite a newbie myself...
[11:37] <mtux> QuaxEros: ok
[11:37] <mtux> QuaxEros: thanks
[11:37] <QuaxEros> mtux ....what card you have? i'll research a bit.
[11:37] <MMinerva> Hello
[11:38] <mtux> QuaxEros: :-/ i doesn't no exactlly, i has an Inspiron 6400 Dell laptop
[11:38] <MMinerva> Qualcuno parla Italiao?
[11:40] <QuaxEros> mtux on site Dell type your servicetag (of laptop). In drivers list will be one or two possibilities.
[11:40] <ichat> mtux, -   lspci  should be able to tel you???
[11:41] <mtux> ichat: i was check it, there isn't any related record on its output
[11:42] <QuaxEros> mtux If it is pci device...yes. but if OS doesn't see it will not be in list....but try...can't harm to get to know linux and your system :-)
[11:43] <ichat> strange,
[11:44] <ichat> do  you know any about your chipset?
[11:45] <mtux> ichat: no
[11:45] <QuaxEros> mtux did you edit the interfaces file? You should always edit these files in sudo mode!!! From console-window type "sudo kate" otherwise your file will not overwrite the original one
[11:46] <mtux> QuaxEros: yes, i was edit it!
[11:47] <ichat> hmmmz its supposed to have the intel  gma950 ...   or an aditionall  ati or nvidia   upgrade
[11:50] <QuaxEros> mtux type: "eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device" in searchbar of your browser. I got a lot of answers. These simple error messages are very good for searching on internet!
[11:50] <mtux> QuaxEros: oh! thanks
[11:50] <mtux> QuaxEros: i forgot this way :)
[11:51] <QuaxEros> mtux :-)
[12:01] <mtux> oh, i think it's "BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX" and i was wrong on lspci output :-/
[12:02] <mtux> it is output of "lshw -C network" http://paste.gnudownload.org/show/2967
[12:06] <mtux> ichat: hey, i'm wrong about my ethernet card!
[12:06] <mtux> ichat: it's: "03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)"
[12:06] <mtux> :-/
[12:07] <mtux> does anyone know what is the kernel module for this card? ^
[12:09] <robin0800> mtux: think you might need ndiswrapper for this card
[12:09] <mtux> robin0800: so, this is a wireless card? :D
[12:11] <robin0800> mtux: suspect there are only windows drivers google is your friend
[12:11] <mtux> robin0800: no, i think it's my ethernet card!
[12:11] <mtux> robin0800: as google says ;)
[12:12] <robin0800> mtux: does google find linux drivers ?
[12:13] <mtux> robin0800: when i searched for this name, all of result pages talk about an ethernet card! of it
[12:14] <robin0800> mtux: earthnet still needs drivers
[12:14] <mtux> robin0800: of course
[12:14] <mtux> robin0800: but it's driver is in kernel :-/ i think
[12:15] <robin0800> mtux: and for linux you need a linux driver
[12:15] <mtux> robin0800: yes
[12:15] <robin0800> mtux: not sure broadcom is supported
[12:16] <mtux> robin0800: http://mdek.net/contents/e1505/
[12:17] <mtux> robin0800: and on other distros i tested, it works ;)
[12:18] <mtux> I think it's kernel backport modules fault: https://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-backports-modules-2.6.27/+bug/287450
[12:22] <robin0800> mtux2: IF Its the b44 driver read this http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.laptop/browse_thread/thread/06a49a38fbe6e7a6
[12:23] <mtux2> robin0800: ok
[12:28] <mtux2> robin0800: i removed kernel backport modules pkg and after reboot, it's know the card :)
[12:40] <snikker> how can i remoce "phonon-backend-xine" without delete all related packages?
[12:40] <snikker> *remove
[12:42] <snikker> when i try to remove "phonon-backend-xine" it want remove also "kubuntu-destop"
[12:43] <snikker> no one?
[12:45] <stdin> snikker: kubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package, it doesn't actually contain any files
[12:45] <snikker> stdin: so i can remove it without any problem?
[12:45] <stdin> yes
[12:46] <snikker> stdin: ok, thanks
[12:47] <chfwiggum> !KLocalePrivate
[12:49] <chfwiggum> !kgreet
[12:49] <chfwiggum> !kdmgreet
[12:50] <chfwiggum> !nuthn
[12:59] <chfwiggum> hello all!
[13:00] <chfwiggum> is there a solution out there to this prob already?  kdmgreet(3174) KLocalePrivate::initEncoding: Cannot resolve system encoding, defaulting to ISO 8859-1.   tia
[13:01] <lappy> kfghsdfjg
[13:27] <giu_> hi
[13:27] <kilessan> hi
[13:27] <giu_> i need a driver, for 9200 radeon
[13:27] <giu_> but the drivers from the amd-page dont work
[13:27] <giu_> he says xserver not found
[13:28] <kilessan> hmm. am using nvidia myself... fglrx knowledge just a 'bit' rusty
[13:29] <fleetcommand> good afternoon :)
[13:29] <kilessan> hi :)
[13:29] <giu_> hows the name for the fglrx channel?
[13:29] <bentob0x> why is the console displaying some colors in bold?
[13:30] <bentob0x> like white for instance
[13:31] <giu_> !ati
[13:31] <kilessan> giu_: the drivers on the amd page are insanely old... 2006 i read there
[13:31] <sierran> Hello
[13:32] <giu_> i need old ones for my
[13:32] <sierran> I have a problem ... Big problem
[13:32] <giu_> because, for my card there are no new ones
[13:32] <giu_> i have a readeon 9200
[13:33] <sierran> Where i can reaport BUG ?
[13:33] <sierran> critical bug ..
[13:33] <giu_> kilessan: hows the name for the driver channel?
[13:33] <giu_> on this server
[13:34] <fleetcommand> sierran: in what component?
[13:34] <sierran> Nvidia drivers dont work on gforce 9600..
[13:34] <giu_> kilessan:  how the name for the driver channels?
[13:34] <sierran> And some orther
[13:35] <sierran> Driver's from ubuntu don't work and from nvidia too
[13:35] <kilessan> giu_: no idea, sorry. but for me it looks like binary drivers for 9200 are very old, so will only work with old x servers... newer card or open source drivers are your options, i am afraid
[13:35] <sierran> glxinfo say's direct rendering : Yes..
[13:36] <kilessan> ...and the open source drivers do not support 3d and other fancy things
[13:36] <giu_> kilessan how the channel on this server?
[13:37] <fleetcommand> for me, it also seems that pre-9500 cards need the RadeonDriver
[13:37] <fleetcommand> instead of fglrx
[13:37] <giu_> !ati channel
[13:37] <kilessan> me neither, sorry
[13:37] <giu_> !radeon
[13:37] <giu_> !help
[13:37] <fleetcommand> it states: If you have an ATI Radeon 9500 or newer [..], then you can use the restricted fglrx drivers
[13:37] <giu_> i have 9200
[13:37] <fleetcommand> also that "If you are using an ATI Radeon card that is older than above, you need the open source drivers: RadeonDriver (NOT fglrx). "
[13:37] <giu_> ok
[13:38] <giu_> how i get radeon?
[13:38] <giu_> opensource
[13:38] <fleetcommand> just follow the link here? :)
[13:38] <fleetcommand> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[13:38] <giu_> thankws
[13:38] <fleetcommand> i hope this helps
[13:38] <fleetcommand> !girls
[13:38] <fleetcommand> hehe
[13:39] <sierran> hmm..
[13:39] <fleetcommand> i was excepted "I know nothing about girls" :(
[13:39] <fleetcommand> *expected
[13:39] <sierran> somebody wanna help me ?
[13:39] <kilessan> I don't think I can... nvidia drivers are a real bitch sometimes
[13:40] <sierran> :(
[13:40] <sierran> All versions dsen't work
[13:41] <sierran> don't work
[13:41] <giu_> fleetcommand: there is not explained how to
[13:41] <giu_> instsall
[13:41] <giu_> ..
[13:42] <kilessan> my hardy also has nvidia problems... sometimes it does not init the graphics card. never found out why. like i said, nvidia drivers are problematic
[13:43] <fleetcommand> giu_: i guess the radeon driver is included, isn't it?
[13:43] <giu_> where?
[13:44] <fleetcommand> i'm pretty sure it's included with x since i was able to use my x without enabling fglrx
[13:44] <giu_> there is written, how to remove fglrx and config the x.org
[13:44] <giu_> how can i test it?
[13:44] <fleetcommand> so i think that removing fglrx and reinstalling those mesa libs should do the job
[13:44] <giu_> you mean the driver is already installed?
[13:45] <giu_> the opensource one?
[13:45] <fleetcommand> i guess so, since most ppl has install nothing to get it work
[13:45] <fleetcommand> btw, what distribution are you using?
[13:45] <giu_> kubuntu 8.10
[13:45] <giu_> i installed it yesterday
[13:47] <giu_> fleetcommand:  my xorg is empty
[13:48] <fleetcommand> you have no /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[13:48] <emma> Intrepid has gone to a new X I think, and it is not configured the same anymore.
[13:48] <fleetcommand> ahm
[13:48] <giu_> fleetcommand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77105/
[13:48] <emma> But I don't know how to configure it really. It has become more obscure.
[13:49] <emma> Does anyone else find that to be the case?
[14:21] <natschil> hello
[14:21] <natschil> I installed kde-nightly, but now, for some reason it uses the kde-trunk oxygen widgets instead of the "normal" oxygen ones
[14:22] <natschil> can anyone tell me from where I can get the "normal widgets", as i can't really find them on svn
[14:30] <Bauldrick> the latest kernel is 27.7??
[14:30] <Farmer> ohay, is there a way to disable the horizontal autoscrolling in dolphin's treeview?
[14:30] <Farmer> it's quite annoying
[14:40] <BluesKaj> howdy
[14:48] <KiDFlaSh> need help to configure my xorg.conf, can someone help me?
[14:48] <BluesKaj> which graphics card , KiDFlaSh ?
[14:48] <Rayn> Hey folks, I just upgraded to ubuntu 8.10 (with KDE 4.1) and I've found KDE to be extremely unstable. Where should I look for crash logs? It takes down the entire X server when it crashes.
[14:48] <KiDFlaSh> radeon 9200
[14:49] <BluesKaj> !ATI | KiDFlaSh
[14:49] <KiDFlaSh> no drivers
[14:49] <KiDFlaSh> x.org.conf config
[14:51] <BluesKaj> KiDFlaSh, hang on lemme check something
[14:55] <BluesKaj> KiDFlaSh, did you see an option to install and enable the "restricted drivers" ?
[14:57] <BluesKaj> KiDFlaSh, anyway here's a tutorial that might workfor you.  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide
[15:04] <KiDFlaSh> why my xorg.conf is so short???
[15:04] <KiDFlaSh> BluesKaj:  http://rafb.net/p/KdbUIt35.html
[15:05] <BluesKaj> KiDFlaSh, that's cuz X has more generic HAL dependencies than previous releases , ...read above that site should help you
[15:09] <KiDFlaSh> kaj there is no help
[15:09] <KiDFlaSh> in the link
[15:09] <KiDFlaSh> the only thing i want
[15:09] <KiDFlaSh> is to change the, resolution
[15:10] <KiDFlaSh> because "system settings" freez if i click display settings
[15:13] <glaz> Hi, I am trying to create a connection in kvpnc and I get this error:
[15:13] <glaz> debug: [pppd] MPPE required, but MS-CHAP[v2] auth not performed.
[15:16] <glaz> anyone?
[15:16] <BluesKaj> KiDFlaSh, maybe my xorg.conf will help. My card is ax200g elcheapo and it works with DRI and 3D and my monitors native reolution 1680x1050. http://www.pastebin.ca/1267641
[15:17] <KiDFlaSh> kaj the new xorg sucks
[15:17] <KiDFlaSh> no glxinfo
[15:17] <KiDFlaSh> Oo
[15:20] <KiDFlaSh> BluesKaj: and how can i choose the resolustion?
[15:21] <BluesKaj> the KiDFlaSh , follow the instructions in this tutorial , it edits make your xorg.conf to make things work
[15:21] <BluesKaj> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide
[15:24] <KiDFlaSh> there is no options for opensource
[15:24] <KiDFlaSh> ,,,
[15:32] <Barackuse> \j
[15:32] <Barackuse> How do you change channels?
[15:32] <stdin> /join #channel_name
[15:33] <Barackuse> thank you
[15:42] <fyl0n> everytime I reboot my 8.10 machine the plasmoid widgets are all on top of each other.
[15:42] <fyl0n> Is it possible to lock the widgets so that when rebooted it will stay on it;s original position?
[15:42] <fyl0n> (lock widgets is on)
[15:53] <linux_> buenas tardes
[15:56] <KiVIrc> йолки
[15:56] <KiVIrc> есть русские?
[16:05] <lasos> Дарова линуксоиды!
[16:06] <KiVIrc> привет!
[16:06] <lasos> Мля, хули я тут делаю?
[16:06] <fabrizio> ciao
[16:06] <KiVIrc> тебя надо спросить. тем более надо спросить что ты курил если с тобой твой собственный комп болтает
[16:06] <fabrizio> ! list
[16:07] <moi> lasos: linuksoid lol
[16:07] <moi> :D
[16:07] <fabrizio> si
[16:07] <lasos> вротмненоги!
[16:08] <KiVIrc> вот-вот. а кто кулер забыл почистить? а на клаве кто ел?
[16:08] <moi> govori angliski lasos
[16:08] <lasos> Ну до кулера пломбы не дают добраться, хотя на выходных полезу, а на клаве я не ем.
[16:08] <KiVIrc> не отнекивайся ))ъ
[16:11] <KiVIrc> народ, помогите с play on linux ))
[16:12] <lasos> play on linux, эт под Wine?
[16:12] <KiVIrc> ну вроде да
[16:12] <KiVIrc> она совместима с ней
[16:12] <lasos> На Kubuntu.ru вроде видел статью
[16:13] <KiVIrc> просто поставил на нее Far Cry 2, а она не запускается, никакой реакции на нажатие кнопки запуска
[16:17] <RurouniJones> !ru
[16:19] <TheMG1> is it possible to extract the cd iso into a folder and install using wubi via that?
[16:22] <TheMG1> anyone?
[16:23] <ubuntoil> TheMG1: why that ??
[16:24] <TheMG1> well i dont want to burn it to cd (i have none)
[16:24] <ubuntoil> TheMG1: what about a bootable usb drive
[16:25] <TheMG1> i dont have any spare usb's
[16:25] <Pici> !install
[16:26] <TheMG1> and i dont think my bios can boot from a usb
[16:28] <Rupert> some bady can help me
[16:28] <TheMG1> i think that assumes i am going to install it normally, i want to use wubi
[16:29] <Rupert> my kubuntu 8.10 stay on login screen
[16:30] <Rupert> canT i in to my destop
[16:31] <DarthOrthac> aqui me parece que no habla nadie
[16:32] <JontheEchidna> !es | DarthOrthac
[16:33] <thomas__> hi
[16:33] <thomas__> was ist
[16:51] <byteme_> I have an external hard drive I am trying to force mount
[16:51] <byteme_> but  the command to mount isnt working for me
[16:52] <byteme_> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g/dev/sdh1/media/disk-o force
[16:52] <byteme_> what am doing wrong?
[17:03] <byteme_> hello?
[17:06] <mr_clark> Hi. Switched to Kubuntu from open OpenSUSE on the weekend. Last night I noticed my /home partition was full. I thought it was just because of some of the crap I had so I cleaned up about 15GB of stuff. This morning the partition was full again. I discovered that I had a ~/.xsessions-errors file which was 21GB in size.
[17:06] <Wind67> you can delete this no probleme
[17:06] <mr_clark> Any idea why this file would be filling up like that? I'm not at the PC so I can't really look at the log at this point.
[17:06] <mr_clark> Wind67, But the file keeps growing.
[17:08] <malharhak> Bonjour
[17:09] <Wind67> bonjour monsieur
[17:09] <amerigo> goodnight
[17:09] <Wind67> ici c'est pour les naglais
[17:09] <Wind67> anglais*
[17:09] <amerigo> !kubuntu.fr
[17:09] <malharhak> oops, hello
[17:22] <DarkSmoke> hey guys
[17:22] <DarkSmoke> i opened up #kubuntu-mt
[17:22] <DarkSmoke> is there a way to make people see it?
[17:23] <DarkSmoke> i want to help any maltese people that join
[17:24] <Pici> DarkSmoke: Please join #ubuntu-irc to discuss this.
[17:25] <DarkSmoke> ok i will
[17:26] <bobesponja> are there gonna gave packages for kde 4.2 beta packages?
[17:28] <bernd__> Hallo
[17:29] <bernd__> Ich habe eine Frage zur Taskleiste
[17:29] <tictric> !de
[17:37] <TheMG> how do i tell whether i have the 64 bit version, while inside kubuntu?
[17:39] <jabrroa> go k>applications>utilitys>sysinfo
[17:40] <TheMG> i cant find system info
[17:41] <jabrroa> oh well install it from adept
[17:42] <jabrroa> search "sysinfo"
[17:42] <TheMG> okay
[17:42] <TheMG> thanks
[17:43] <Pici> TheMG: If   uname -m   says x86_64 then you're running the 64 bit version, no need to install anything.
[17:43] <RoccoLord> TheMG:  uname -m in a konsole
[17:43] <TheMG> yeah im 64
[17:43] <TheMG> which is INCREDIBLY annoying
[17:44] <eagles0513875> !alsa
[17:44] <TheMG> since ive spent the last hour downloading the 32 bit version because i had the 64 bit where few programs worked
[17:44] <eagles0513875> TheMG i have no issues on 64bit
[17:44] <TheMG> how do you get flash working
[17:45] <OxDeadC0de> hardinfo is a little nicer than sysinfo imo
[17:45] <jabrroa> download the 64 bit version from adobe
[17:46] <jabrroa> never tried it i will right now :)
[17:46] <TheMG> i couldnt find one yesterday, and another program definately has no 64 bit version (i asked the developers)
[17:46] <RoccoLord> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[17:46] <TheMG> but how come i have the 64 bit version when i specifically downloaded it to get the 32 bit one
[17:47] <jabrroa> where would "hardinfo" be ? just installed it?
[17:47] <TheMG> "What type of computer do you i386 Standard personal computer (x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM, AthlonTM, SempronTM)amd64 64bit AMD and Intel computers"
[17:48] <TheMG> on that, i selected the first
[17:48] <OxDeadC0de> I don't know, I launch it from the terminal via hardinfo
[17:48] <TheMG> so how can i have ended up with the 64 bit version
[17:48] <jabrroa> ok :)
[17:48] <boernie> #
[17:48] <jabrroa> very nice app :)
[17:49] <OxDeadC0de> the generated html pages with the benchmarks are the best part ^^
[17:49] <jabrroa> wow very well layed out and in-depth
[17:50] <jabrroa> hehe my computerrr is insane
[17:50] <OxDeadC0de> Better than a celeron? No way :P
[17:52] <jabrroa> i have 3 nvidia 9800 GTX pro 1gb each in SLI mode, 32 GB of corsair dominator ram, and a AMD 9850 quad core black edition :) all for gaming with 5 TB of HDD
[17:52] <jabrroa> AMD rocks
[17:53] <OxDeadC0de> stop bragging :P U make me jealous
[17:53] <jabrroa> dont be.... its cost  me way to much to run at 2700 watts
[17:54] <jabrroa> and it'll be nothing in two years anyways
[17:54] <jabrroa> lol
[17:54] <jabrroa> i seriously need a powerplant just for my coolong
[17:54] <OxDeadC0de> if you can afford that now though... how can you care much about the power bill...?
[17:54] <jabrroa> *cooling
[17:55] <jabrroa> dude its alot of money lol i run a nitrogen cooling system apart from my comp
[17:56] <giuseppe_> can you help me about automount?
[17:56] <jabrroa> wow i like this program
[17:56] <jabrroa> whats automount?
[17:56] <OxDeadC0de> automount what giuseppe_?
[17:56] <jabrroa> i use gmountiso
[17:56] <jabrroa> if thats what it is your doing...
[17:57] <giuseppe_> I mean. when I inseert a usb pen drive it is mounted automatically but no for cd or dvd
[17:58] <giuseppe_> jabrroa: do you mean gnome-mount?
[17:58] <OxDeadC0de> so I just finished writing the entire gui for my mass access to mysql convertor, now I need to write a script to drop the tables in access then create odbc links to the new mysql tables, a script to backup the existing access db's, then a script to deploy the modified access db's on top of the original ones after the backups have been made... then my job is finally done! first paycheck in 5-6 years
[17:58] <OxDeadC0de> I know you all care right? :P
[17:59] <giuseppe_> jabrroa: any help?
[18:00] <giuseppe_> OxDeadC0de: automount cdrom for example
[18:00] <OxDeadC0de> !autofs
[18:00] <OxDeadC0de> !info autofs
[18:01] <giuseppe_> OxDeadC0de: can you help me?
[18:02] <OxDeadC0de> giuseppe_ sudo nano /etc/auto.misc - make sure you have cd              -fstype=iso9660,ro,nosuid,nodev :/dev/cdrom
[18:03] <giuseppe_> OxDeadC0de: sorry can you explain it to me  better?  Sorry
[18:03] <eagles0513875> !audio
[18:03] <eagles0513875> interesting
[18:03] <eagles0513875> !realtek
[18:04] <giuseppe_> OxDeadC0de: can you tell me what I have to do?
[18:06] <OxDeadC0de> I already told you what to do, in a terminal open up the file with root privileges and make sure it contains the line that automounts your cd-rom drive
[18:08] <giuseppe_> OxDeadC0de: ok, I create the file and added "-fstype=iso9660,ro,nosuid,nodev :/dev/cdrom"
[18:08] <OxDeadC0de> giuseppe "cd              -fstype=iso9660,ro,nosuid,nodev :/dev/cdrom" in /etc/auto.misc
[18:09] <giuseppe_> OxDeadC0de: I try now or have I to restart the OS?
[18:10] <pierre__> does anyone has problems with firefox3, where tabs aren't themed correctly ?
[18:12] <OxDeadC0de> giuseppe worth a try, did /etc/auto.misc not exist before?
[18:12] <OxDeadC0de> giuseppe if it didn't you should make sure you have the autofs package installed.. should be installed by default
[18:16] <Dragonath> if I install a bunch of backports packages, is there a way to downgrade to the proven stable versions quickly (like disabling the backports repository)?
[18:16] <dek> since I installed KDE4 i can no longer do the @ with Alt Gr + Q (latin american keyboard) in many programs, any idea how to fix this?
[18:17] <Dragonath> dek: a solution might be to find your old xorg.conf file and look up what it says about your keyboard, then copy that bit to the new xorg.conf and restart the X server
[18:17] <Dragonath> dek: you can do the @ in some programs though?
[18:19] <dek> Dragonath: yeah, thats the strange part, in some (few) programs it does work
[18:19] <dek> Dragonath: I think its on the ones that natively use KDE4
[18:20] <Dragonath> hmm then messing with xorg.conf probably won't work
[18:21] <dek> is there something I can configure about programs that are still using KDE3?
[18:21] <Dragonath> have you tried changing settings in the system settings module (keyboard and etc)?
[18:21] <dek> yes
[18:22] <Dragonath> dek: then I don't know what's wrong.. I recently downgraded from kde4 myself, so I can't look in menus and search for something that might help
[18:23] <dek> Dragonath: ok, thanks anyway
[18:27] <Nasj> !virusscan
[18:27] <Nasj> !anti-virus
[18:27] <Nasj> !virus
[18:28] <Nasj> !firewall
[18:30] <thomas____> hi
[18:30] <thomas____> was ist
[18:30] <Dragonath> !at
[18:30] <Dragonath> !ge
[18:30] <Dragonath> argh
[18:31] <P__> KDE seems to be very slow to display the different windows element, do you have any tip to speed it up ? enabling/disabling the desktop effects doesn't do much here
[18:31] <Dragonath> !de
[18:31] <thomas____> ja
[18:31] <OxDeadC0de> P__ Do you have an nvidia video card?
[18:31] <P__> yes
[18:31] <P__> OxDeadC0de, a Geforce 8700M GT
[18:32] <OxDeadC0de> KDE4 doesn't seem to work well with the repo's drivers, you will get better performance with the beta drivers from nvidia - that is for kwin, if you use compiz things should be alright
[18:32] <P__> OxDeadC0de, compiz ?
[18:33] <P__> i have the version 177, is that from the repo ?
[18:33] <OxDeadC0de> P__ compiz is a compositing window manager, it replaces kwin
[18:34] <P__> OxDeadC0de, any pro/cons ?
[18:34] <OxDeadC0de> P__ most likely, unless you went to nvidia.com, got the drivers, manually installed them
[18:34] <P__> make sense, i can try it
[18:35] <OxDeadC0de> compiz-fusion is mature, and fast on nvidia and .. everything.. kwin with compositing seems pretty new, I won't use it until 4.2 at least - if they fix the speed issues
[18:35] <milian> anyone else not being able to install librdf-dev & libsvn-dev together due to dependancy-problems?
[18:36] <P__> OxDeadC0de, ok I ll give it a go, thanks for the pointer
[18:36] <OxDeadC0de> and compiz-fusion has more plugins.. you get the desktop wall and cube, you can have different wallpapers on each virtual desktop.. Cons would be: scroll wheel on desktop rotates cube with that plugin enabled instead of scrolling the plasmoids
[18:37] <OxDeadC0de> not quite sure if it scrolls the plasmoids even with cube rotate off, havn't tried
[18:38] <JasonCO> having some issues with compiz -- specifically it seems to start the windows come up but no decorations on them and i cant seem to get a a windowdecorator to work (i use emerald)
[18:38] <OxDeadC0de> jasonco try installing fusion-icon and running it, switch the window decorator from there?
[18:38] <JasonCO> tired it - -no success
[18:39] <P__> where do you switch between kwin and compiz ?
[18:39] <JasonCO> fusion icon
[18:39] <OxDeadC0de> and what's the output from emerald --replace in the console ?
[18:39] <JasonCO> humm - -hang on lemme try
[18:40] <JasonCO> so far nothing -- its just sitting there looking at me
[18:40] <OxDeadC0de> and you already selected a theme with the emerald theme selector right?
[18:40] <JasonCO> ya -- i think so
[18:40] <JasonCO> lemme try that again
[18:41] <JasonCO> why is there no ok button on emerald?
[18:41] <Barackuse> is it true that compiz will not work on ubuntu in virtualbox?
[18:42] <ErikSw> aloha, i got a problem getting into kubuntu running from a live CD.. I get to a command line ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ and at that point i just can't seem to get it to start.. any ideas?
[18:42] <OxDeadC0de> oh open ccsm make sure window decorations are enabled
[18:42] <JasonCO> ok
[18:42] <OxDeadC0de> it changes the decorations as soon as you click on one to live preview them basically
[18:43] <JasonCO> windows decorations are enabled
[18:43] <JasonCO> but nothing changes
[18:43] <cuznt> did you restart 1st?
[18:43] <JasonCO> restart kubuntu?
[18:44] <ErikSw> help :)
[18:45] <Barackuse> I need an easy LAMP instalation for ubuntu 8.10  - anyone have a handy link?
[18:46] <cuznt> !lamo
[18:46] <cuznt> !lamp
[18:50] <JasonCO> any ideas on my troublesome compiz?
[18:50] <JasonCO> do i need a reboot?
[18:52] <fale> hi
[18:52] <fale> someone is working on the 4.2b1 packages?
[18:56] <pulaski> Hello, this could be the wrong place to ask this question but I can find nothing on the web.  I have efax running on my kubuntu 8.04 desktop and I seem to recall using the cli to create a fax cover page.  Can anyone here recall that command or suggest how else I could find it out.
[19:00] <ErikSw> I can't start kubuntu from a live CD, I get to a command line interface were startx does not work.. any ideas ?
[19:04] <JasonCO> ok -- i tried a reboot - and no luck
[19:04] <JasonCO> compiz will start but the decorator doesnt kick in
[19:05] <besitzer> hi
[19:05] <OxDeadC0de> jasonco and in the windows decorations plugin the Command is "emerald --replace" right?
[19:05] <besitzer> hey welche aus der nähe von ahlen hier unterwegs???
[19:05] <JasonCO> OxDeadC0de: where do i find that?
[19:06] <OxDeadC0de> and Decoration Windows is set to all?
[19:06] <OxDeadC0de> in ccsm
[19:06] <OxDeadC0de> in window decorations plugin config, last 3 should be "emerald --replace" then "all" and "all"
[19:06] <JasonCO> lemme check
[19:07] <JasonCO> ok - it was set to kde4-window-decorator --replace
[19:08] <OxDeadC0de> what kind of video card do you have too ? (try setting to emerald --replace then disable and reenable window decorations)
[19:10] <JasonCO> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller(rev 02)
[19:12] <Nasj> Who knows a place where i can test my firewall settings ?
[19:13] <pulaski> kubuntu has an office app called the HPLIP Fax Utility.  How can I tell it my usrobotics external modem is /dev/tty0?
[19:13] <ErikSw> post your ip at hack this site ;)
[19:13] <Nasj> xD
[19:13] <ErikSw> :P hehe
[19:14] <eagles0513875> dwidmann got some questions for ya
[19:18] <thomas__> hi
[19:19] <pulaski> Nevermind, I don't own any HP peripherals.  I do run efax and I can send faxes with it.  I can print using my canon i550 printer.  But I would appreciate any help configuring a fax printer in cups using efax.
[19:20] <thomas__> wie geht
[19:20] <OxDeadC0de> JasonCO: if you do killall compiz-decorator does it affect anything?
[19:20] <cuznt> !gr
[19:20] <JasonCO> ummm -- lemme try
[19:21] <cuznt> !ge
[19:21] <JasonCO> no process killed
[19:23] <JontheEchidna> !de
[19:23] <Barackuse> I need an easy LAMP instalation for ubuntu 8.10  - anyone have a handy link?
[19:23] <JasonCO> OxDeadC0de: no process killed
[19:24] <Barackuse> ubottu: Wha...?
[19:24] <OxDeadC0de> jasonco and if you do "compiz --replace &" from the console does it help? :|
[19:25] <JasonCO> http://www.pastebin.ca/1267826
[19:25] <JasonCO> theres the output
[19:26] <TheMG> ive been trying to install some programs and it keeps giving me errors about something called kpkg
[19:27] <TheMG> it told me to run kpkg --configure -a
[19:27] <TheMG> and it said there were dependancy problems so it didnt configuer
[19:27] <TheMG> what does that mean?
[19:29] <JasonCO> OxDeadC0de: http://www.pastebin.ca/1267826
[19:29] <xenol> how can i install OO.o3 packages please? i added the repos did apt-get update several times, did apt-get upgrade and it doesnt display updates for OO.o 2.4
[19:29] <woden> In Amarok, when I run the Script Manager nothing happens.  How do I run the Script Manager?
[19:34] <BluesKaj> xenol, have you tried to install OO using adept ?
[19:35] <xenol> BluesKaj: it doesnt show in adept either
[19:36] <BluesKaj> xenol, do you have the third party repos enabled in adept ?
[19:37] <xenol> BluesKaj: i think it's ticked, sec i check
[19:37] <OxDeadC0de> JasonCO: wget http://blogage.de/files/4359/download -O compiz-check; chmod +x compiz-check; ./compiz-check
[19:37] <P__> compiz is great
[19:38] <P__> much faster, i like it
[19:38] <xenol> BluesKaj: yes it is
[19:38] <OxDeadC0de> yeah I won't try kwin till 4.2 ^^
[19:39] <P__> OxDeadC0de, now i have the feeling i got a usable system
[19:46] <woden> I turned off desktop effects...
[19:50] <JasonCO> OxDeadC0de: back -- sorry -- lemme try that
[19:51] <woden> Why is Amarok still based on KDE 3.x?
[19:51] <JasonCO> OxDeadC0de: it skipped 2 tests and said no rendering method in use
[19:52] <ubuntoil> Hi, what do I ve to do for power manager not to start at start up ??
[19:52] <JasonCO> Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[19:52] <ubuntoil> I use kpowersave instead...
[19:54] <OxDeadC0de> JasonCO: Try adding Option "AIGLX" "on" to the serverflags section in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf - if the serverflags section doesn't exist make it and add that, then restart xorg
[19:54] <OxDeadC0de> JasonCO: and make sure in the device section it has: driver "intel"
[19:54] <JasonCO> ok -- lemme look at it
[19:56] <JasonCO> http://www.pastebin.ca/1267852
[19:56] <JasonCO> theres my xorg.conf
[19:59] <OxDeadC0de> jasonCO http://www.pastebin.ca/1267855
[19:59] <JasonCO> cool
[20:00] <OxDeadC0de> hey JasonCO: sorry it should be "intel" not Intel - change that before saving
[20:00] <JasonCO> ok - no worries
[20:00] <OxDeadC0de> lowercae i ^^
[20:01] <woden> Why is it that when I click on a link in Konversation it opens an "Open With..." dialog box instead of a new tab on Konqueror?
[20:02] <OxDeadC0de> woden: I use: firefox '%u' in configure conversation/behavior/general
[20:02] <woden> OxDeadC0de: I do not want to use firefox
[20:03] <sevenseeker> howdy all, using Pidgin, I would like to set that as my preferred IM tool in KDE, is that possible?  (its not in the pull down for the preferences area of system settings)
[20:03] <OxDeadC0de> woden then set it to konqueror
[20:03] <woden> OxDeadC0de: Just curious as to why it is not already set that way?
[20:03] <OxDeadC0de> woden: ask a dev or konqueror dev? :P
[20:04] <woden> OxDeadC0de:  What is %u?
[20:04] <OxDeadC0de> woden: fills in the url
[20:05] <JasonCO> OxDeadC0de: rebooting -- brb
[20:08] <noaXess> wow...
[20:08] <noaXess> my keabord won't work.. don't know why, needed to logout and login again.. any idea?
[20:11] <edi_99> Hi guys, how do I save something in Kate, but I have to do it in sudo mode?
[20:12] <noaXess> any idea which service control's keyboard input?... have tried kvkbd but won't work also
[20:12] <JontheEchidna> edi_99: launch kate with kdesudo
[20:12] <edi_99> JontheEchidna: how do I do that?
[20:12] <JontheEchidna> from alt+f2 or konsole type, kdesudo kate
[20:12] <edi_99> JontheEchidna thanks
[20:13] <JontheEchidna> yw
[20:13] <Jason_CO> OxDeadC0de: im back -- still the same problem and still the same output from compiz-check - except it says intel driver is in use
[20:14] <OxDeadC0de> Jason_CO What's the output from compiz-check?
[20:14] <Jason_CO> skipped 2 checks and no rendering method in use
[20:14] <OxDeadC0de> pastebin
[20:14] <Jason_CO> one moment
[20:15] <Jason_CO> OxDeadC0de: http://www.pastebin.ca/1267874
[20:16] <binarycortex> hello
[20:17] <binarycortex> first let me say i love wubi
[20:17] <woden> wubi?
[20:17] <woden> The Army poncho liner?
[20:17] <binarycortex> no
[20:17] <Lupus-SLE> Hey people, I'm trying to run Quake Wars on my Kubuntu 8.10 setup and the game works fine, but I'm having an issue with the widescreen resolutions (16:10 in my case). When I select a non 4:3 resolution, the game doesn't fill the screen properly and gives me a letterbox effect. The only resolution this works for is my desktop resolution of 1440x900. Why does xorg hate me?
[20:18] <binarycortex> http://wubi-installer.org/
[20:18] <woden> LOL.  Wubi is the Army poncho liner...
[20:18] <Lupus-SLE> I'm considering that I may need to add the resolutions I want to use to xorg.conf but I'm not certain and I'm no stranger to completely screwing that file up... yes/no/maybe?
[20:18] <binarycortex> ahh lol
[20:19] <woden> unfortunately, xorg.conf is history
[20:19] <Jason_CO> OxDeadC0de: did you see my pastebin?
[20:19] <Lupus-SLE> woden: I'm behind on the times man!
[20:19] <fabrizio> salve come va?
[20:19] <binarycortex> i only have an 8.04 cd so i installed using that, after the first update it asked if i wanted to upgrade to 8.10 but i didnt have time
[20:19] <binarycortex> it has not asked since then
[20:19] <fabrizio> !list
[20:19] <binarycortex> do i need to manually point to the newer distro?
[20:20] <Lupus-SLE> !widescreen
[20:20] <Lupus-SLE> Right... well with no xorg.conf I don't know what to do ¬_¬
[20:21] <jabrroa> !not being gay
[20:21] <jabrroa> haha....
[20:21] <Jason_CO> brb
[20:21] <LjL> !botabuse | jabrroa, not very funny really
[20:22] <jabrroa> oh shut up
[20:24] <binarycortex> anyone know how to initiate a distro upgrade?
[20:24] <woden> ?
[20:24] <woden> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:25] <Lupus-SLE> !xorg.cong
[20:25] <Lupus-SLE> !xorg.conf
[20:26] <Jason_CO> OxDeadC0de: back - no joy
[20:27] <Jason_CO> OxDeadC0de: same result as the compiz-check showed
[20:27] <woden> How do I set the time out to be longer?  It's too short I guess because I keep getting timeout errors.
[20:29] <binarycortex> woden: it says "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[20:29] <binarycortex> it appears that my list is specifically set for hardy
[20:30] <metal> Mr holbrook
[20:30] <metal> :O
[20:30] <woden> binarycotex:  Then it is up-to-date....did you want something more than that?
[20:30] <metal> Anyone know how to make kubuntu work with a broadcam wireless card?
[20:31] <woden> binarycortex: ^
[20:31] <claydoh> metal: install the package b43-fwcutter if the hardware drivers manager does not work
[20:31] <claydoh> most broadcom need firmware
[20:32] <binarycortex> yes, i wanted 8.10
[20:32] <edi_99> Hi, what does this command do: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-generic?
[20:33] <edi_99> and how it is connected with my sound?
[20:34] <noaXess> what service controls my keyboard? cause on time it stoppe working..
[20:34] <noaXess> i had to relogin to reactivate it..
[20:35] <binarycortex> woden: do i need to do a global replace in my sources.list?
[20:35] <claydoh> binarycortex: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu
[20:36] <Lupus-SLE> So with this new xorg.conf thingy... how can I add modes?
[20:36] <Lupus-SLE> Oooo... say 1280x800 ?
[20:37] <woden> binarycortex:  I am not sure what a global replace is.  But you should check to make sure that your /etc/apt/sources.list contains the correct information.
[20:38] <woden> binarycortex:  Here is my sources.list.
[20:38] <woden> #deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_ - Release i386 (20081029.5)]/ intrepid main restricted
[20:38] <woden> # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
[20:38] <woden> # newer versions of the distribution.
[20:38] <woden> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted
[20:38] <woden> deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted
[20:38] <woden> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[20:38] <woden> ## distribution.
[20:38] <woden> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates main restricted
[20:38] <woden> deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates main restricted
[20:38] <woden> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[20:38] <woden> ## team. Also, please note that software in universe WILL NOT receive any
[20:38] <woden> ## review or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
[20:38] <woden> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid universe
[20:38] <woden> deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid universe
[20:38] <woden> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates universe
[20:38] <woden> deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates universe
[20:38] <woden> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[20:39] <woden> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[20:39] <woden> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[20:39] <woden> ## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
[20:39] <woden> ## security team.
[20:39] <woden> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid multiverse
[20:39] <woden> deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid multiverse
[20:39] <woden> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates multiverse
[20:39] <woden> deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates multiverse
[20:39] <woden> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
[20:39] <woden> ## repository.
[20:39] <woden> ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
[20:39] <woden> ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
[20:39] <JontheEchidna> !pastebin | woden
[20:39] <woden> ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
[20:39] <jabrroa> wtf are you doing
[20:39] <woden> ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
[20:39] <woden> ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
[20:39] <woden> # deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[20:39] <woden> # deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[20:39] <woden> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's
[20:39] <woden> ## 'partner' repository. This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is
[20:39] <woden> ## offered by Canonical and the respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu
[20:39] <jabrroa> wtf are you doing
[20:39] <woden> ## users.
[20:39] <woden> # deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu intrepid partner
[20:39] <jabrroa> wtf are you doing
[20:39] <jabrroa> wtf are you doing
[20:39] <woden> # deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu intrepid partner
[20:39] <woden> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-security main restricted
[20:39] <woden> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-security main restricted
[20:39] <e-liquid> haha
[20:39] <woden> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-security universe
[20:39] <woden> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-security universe
[20:39] <jabrroa> wtf are you doing
[20:40] <woden> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-security multiverse
[20:40] <woden> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-security multiverse
[20:40] <woden> darn it
[20:40] <woden> http://paste.debian.net/22318/
[20:40] <jabrroa> OMFG!!
[20:40] <woden> sorry
[20:40] <woden> jabrroa:  I mis-clicked I am sorry.
[20:40] <jabrroa> wtf are you doing
[20:40] <woden> JontheEchidna:  I mis-clicked I am sorry.
[20:40] <jabrroa> lol
[20:40] <e-liquid> haha
[20:40] <JontheEchidna> hehe
[20:40] <claydoh> binarycortex: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu
[20:40] <jabrroa> thats funny
[20:40] <claydoh> easiest way to upgrade
[20:40] <woden> I'm surprised I didn't get auto-kicked
[20:40] <jabrroa> lol
[20:41] <JontheEchidna> woden: your irc client probably slowed it down so you wouldn't
[20:41] <claydoh> binarycortex: no files to edit
[20:41] <woden> I meant to paste the URL to the pastebin but I pasted the content on accidnt.
[20:41] <JontheEchidna> ya, no biggie. Accidents happen
[20:41] <woden> thanks
[20:42] <JontheEchidna> I just blame klipper when that sort of thing happens to me ;-)
[20:42] <jabrroa> i blame mexico
[20:43] <jabrroa> or canada
[20:43] <jabrroa> either one :)
[20:43] <woden> Jon: I actually used to work with the original developer of Klipper.
[20:43] <woden> Jon:  He is the one who turned me on to linux.
[20:43] <binarycortex> claydoh: beauty, thats exactly what i was looking for
[20:43] <JontheEchidna> Cool
[20:43] <claydoh> binarycortex:  :)
[20:44] <binarycortex> thanks
[20:44] <woden> I haven't used KDE in about 7 years though.  I've been using GNOME the entire time.  I'm kind of in shock mode right now trying to figure out this KDE thing.
[20:46] <e-liquid> this is my first day using kubuntu :P
[20:47] <hexagown> Welcome to the best world. (In the word) :D
[20:47] <e-liquid> yeh well windows start to piss me off
[20:48] <serenity> hi there
[20:48] <serenity> are there any plans for a ppa with kde4.2b1?
[20:49] <JontheEchidna> plans yes, packages not yet
[20:49] <Zeelot3k> hey guys, I'm using 64bit 8.10 ubuntu right now and I know I have kubuntu 8.03 32bit on another partition, how can I add this to grub? duno if the 32/64 bit difference is an issue with the kernel or whatever but I'm lost
[20:50] <Zeelot3k> I mean I have kubuntu 8.10 32bit
[20:50] <Zeelot3k> on a different partition but I don't know how to addit to grub
[20:50] <hexagown> The 64-bit version itsen't the best chose, becous its not manny programms compitable with it
[20:50] <hexagown> ah, well nvm :D
[20:50] <Zeelot3k> thats why I want to dual boot into kubuntu 32bit
[20:51] <serenity> JontheEchidna: sounds fine, thanks
[20:52] <JontheEchidna> Thanksgiving seems to be slowing progress :P
[20:53] <serenity> JontheEchidna: but that's tomorrow
[20:53] <JontheEchidna> yeah, but people travel
[20:53] <serenity> sure
[20:53] <Zeelot3k> can anyone give me advice? is it possible to dual boot 32bit and 64bit ubuntu/kubuntus?
[20:57] <binarycortex> !wubi
[20:58] <Zeelot3k> =(
[21:01] <zbyszek_> hi can you tell me why i cannot access keyboard settings in kde4?
[21:01] <zbyszek_> only the cursor changed after i clicked it
[21:01] <zbyszek_> \...
[21:02] <zbyszek_> can i open keyboard shortcut configuration in other way?
[21:12] <XVampireX> hey people, KDE 4.2 beta is out :D
[21:12] <XVampireX> any chance we could get it some time soon?
[21:13] <woden> XVampireX: You can get it
[21:13] <XVampireX> no, I'm not going to compile it
[21:14] <harolddong> are you talking about the beta?
[21:15] <XVampireX> harolddong: yeah
[21:15] <loganWHD> hello
[21:15] <loganWHD> anyone know how to get 8.10 to print to pdf?
[21:16] <XVampireX> print to pdf...
[21:16] <XVampireX> sounds weird
[21:16] <loganWHD> it does?
[21:16] <claydoh> with thanksgiving upon us in the US and other people away it may take a bit  extra to get the 4.2 beta out the door
[21:16] <claydoh> compared to normal
[21:17] <JontheEchidna> Plus we're doing an extra round of internal review work on the packages since the jump from 4.1.x -> 4.2 beta isn't small
[21:17] <OxDeadC0de> Jason_CO if you're still here, try this: http://www.pastebin.ca/1267935
[21:17] <[GuS]> guys... Hi! Beta1 will be not in PPA ?
[21:17] <XVampireX> claydoh: Canonical and Ubuntu are not american companies/products/whatever
[21:19] <JontheEchidna> XVampireX: with volunteers from around the world
[21:19] <fale> claydoh: I guess tomorrow 4.2 will be packaged ;)
[21:19] <etfb> Quick dumb question: I'm writing software that sends HTTP GET and POST requests.  I want a utility that will monitor the traffic and let me see it, headers and all.  Any suggestions?
[21:19] <XVampireX> JontheEchidna: Well Sherlock, figure that out
[21:19] <OxDeadC0de> I have a PDF printer installed from the printer manager tool (settings/printing) cups/pdf make and model generic PDF file generator
[21:20] <XVampireX> AFAIK, PDF is a file format
[21:20] <claydoh> XVampireX: the main dev, for example is on holiday
[21:20] <OxDeadC0de> etfb wireshark is decent
[21:20] <Neremor> hello!
[21:20] <Neremor> is there a way to find out my pc architecture?
[21:20] <Neremor> i386 or i686?
[21:21] <etfb> OxDeadC0de: Thanks - I'll look it up.
[21:21] <XVampireX> I saw that the new systray fixes the silly icon problems
[21:21] <Neremor> if i try uname -i i only get the error "unknown"
[21:21] <XVampireX> or maybe not
[21:21] <claydoh> XVampireX: and others are preparing for thanksgiving, so it may not be relaeased as quickly as usual
[21:21] <loganWHD> XVampireX:  yes of course and you can print to it
[21:21] <XVampireX> print TO it?
[21:21] <XVampireX> how's that possible?
[21:22] <XVampireX> Maybe you can print it....
[21:22] <XVampireX> but I don't know what printing to it means
[21:22] <JontheEchidna> a virtual printer than converts it to pdf
[21:22] <etfb> Neremor: kinfocenter is the KDE UI program for the job, perhaps.
[21:22] <Neremor> ok thanks
[21:22] <Neremor> found out i had to use uname -a
[21:22] <Neremor> it says i686
[21:22] <Neremor> what bit type is it?
[21:23] <Neremor> 32 or 64?
[21:23] <hexagown> 32
[21:23] <XVampireX> Neremor: If it doesn't say x86_64 then it's 32
[21:23] <hexagown> The 64-bit version itsen't the best chose, becous its not manny programms compitable with it
[21:23] <XVampireX> 64bit is good enough
[21:23] <hexagown> Truth
[21:23] <Neremor> ok
[21:23] <fale> hexagown: you have problems only on the close source programs ;)
[21:23] <Neremor> thanks
[21:23] <gl_> has anybody had any problems with an openoffice 3 update yesterday?
[21:23] <loganWHD> sheez talk about symantics
[21:23] <loganWHD> what a putz
[21:24] <fale> gl_: nope
[21:24] <Neremor> because i wasn't sure for months right now and used the 32 bit apps of all software right now
[21:24] <gl_> fale: hi so, are you running 3.0.4?
[21:24] <hexagown> I'v really never understand why they diden't put an OpenOffice version in the new Kubuntu (8.10)
[21:24] <hexagown> Thats really wierd
[21:24] <Neremor> just to make sure i got it right: that means i have to use the package "i386"?
[21:25] <fale> gl_: 3.0.0-4
[21:25] <gl_> fale: ah, yes, are you?
[21:25] <fale> yep
[21:25] <gl_> in kubuntu 8.10?
[21:26] <fale> hexagown: I guess for a space reason ;)
[21:26] <fale> gl_: yep
[21:26] <hexagown> Ye guess so...
[21:26] <gl_> Hm... I had the previous version running, but stopped after the update...
[21:26] <fale> hexagown: the problem is that 700mb are not a lot...
[21:27] <gl_> running from the console would complain Qt, about painting an object
[21:27] <fale> gl_: I dunno... to me it works well
[21:27] <gl_> OK thanks
[21:27] <sigp239> I'm using Ubuntu but I removed GNOME and installed KDE
[21:27] <fale> gl_: yw
[21:28] <pm2> Hello - I'm experiencing very slow performance on my laptop, which I suspect is due to harddrive performance.  I looked at the output of hdparm, and it shows that DMA is not enabled.  When I try to enable it, it says "HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted" -- any thoughts on how to fix this?  I'm using Kernel 2.6.24 on Kubuntu
[21:29] <fale> pm2: are you tring as normal user, or as root?
[21:29] <pm2> fale, root
[21:29] <pm2> using sudo
[21:29] <hexagown> Are you speaking about that CDs only are 700mb? Becous I think it wont... Well it will be abit more expensive, but a DVD dont cost taht mutch, and if you got an "good" DVD its "overriteable" So if you download Kubuntu you can yust overwrite when you want to do it.
[21:29] <hexagown> And when you allready got Kubuntu 8.04 you yust download some kind of update, and that has no space limit.
[21:30] <fale> hexagown: I guess in a few releases kubuntu will be dvd only... in any case, right now, there is a DVD version ;)
[21:30] <Toph> i have just installed Kubuntu 8.10,,, i can't find the Storage Media,,, can you please help?
[21:30] <fale> Toph: you mean the external HD?
[21:31] <hexagown> Ah okay, well im pritty new with all teh Linux stuffs, so I dont know all about there things, yust try to sort out my won mind right now ^^
[21:31] <Toph> fale: i don't see any of my drives, as i used to under Storage media on the earlier versions
[21:32] <fale> Toph: you will find theme in Dolphin, in the left bar
[21:32] <Toph> Dolphin doesn't show the storage media
[21:32] <ghrocks> hi everyone, im having problems starting kdenlive, ir apparently starts but the it closes itself
[21:32] <fale> ghrocks: it returns an error?
[21:33] <sigma> is it possible for me to send my amarok audio stream to my headphones and the audio stream from my videos to the pc speakers? (i have the headphones plugged into front audio ports and the speakers plugged into the ports at the back of the motherboard - main ports)?
[21:33] <Toph> fale: ,, i only have Home,Network,Root,Trash, Volume.
[21:33] <OxDeadC0de> sigma - with pulseaudio it might be possible with some complex setup
[21:33] <OxDeadC0de> sigma - might not even be all that complex anymore
[21:33] <fale> Toph: Volume ;)
[21:33] <ghrocks> it sayas kdenlive crashing...kcrash cannot reach kdeinit launching directly
[21:34] <fale> ghrocks: I guess is a packaging bug
[21:34] <ghrocks> soi gues i should uninstall it and reinstall it right???
[21:34] <sigma> OxDeadC0de: won't that stuff up phonon though? if not how do i install it?
[21:34] <fale> sigma: how many audio cards has your pc?
[21:34] <Toph> fale: Volume basically gives me Root plus a couple other directories
[21:35] <sigma> fale: one onboard hd nvidia
[21:37] <fale> sigma: than I guess only one stream as output
[21:37] <sigma> fale: but can't pulse split it?
[21:37] <fale> sigma: maybe
[21:37] <ghrocks> i received the folloewing error while reinstalling kdenlive the application adept crashed and caused the signal 11 (sigsegv)
[21:38] <sigma> fale: in kmix I have 2 "front" sliders, one for the headphones and one for the pc speakers so def looks like its two independent streams
[21:38] <ghrocks> any idea??
[21:39] <fale> sigma: than surely you can ;)
[21:39] <Toph> fale: ok,, i think i'm figuring it out, but how do i find the size and unused portions of my HD,, i have 2 internal HDDS
[21:39] <harolddong> does anybody know I can't change icons of folders on my fat32 drives?  Also the drives themselves dont show a drive icon but a folder icon instead which also can't be changed.  the permissions seems to be fine I can read and write to the drive I just can't change icons.
[21:39] <OxDeadC0de> sigma I have no idea what phonon will and won't do, but sudo apt-get install pulseaudio pulseaudio-utils paprefs paman pavucontrol pavumeter padevchooser paman (If you use vlc vlc-plugin-pulse)
[21:40] <fale> Toph: with the right click ;)
[21:40] <epimeth> hi guys...
[21:40] <epimeth> ummm
[21:40] <epimeth> I've got a wireless problem
[21:41] <Toph> fale:  ok,, thanks
[21:41] <fale> Toph: yw
[21:41] <epimeth> iwlist scanning shows my the network I want to connect to.... however, going to network manager and selecting
[21:41] <epimeth> "new connection" does not
[21:42] <ghrocks> lol, fale i know u r really busy, but ehmm do u have any idea regarding that error message about the error message im receiving after trying to reinstall kdenlive???
[21:42] <fale> ghrocks: nope, you should signal it on launchpad
[21:43] <ghrocks> thnx
[21:43] <epimeth> in fact, iwconfig scanning gives me lots of networks that "new connection" doesn't, "new connection" gives me a ton of ones that iwconfig doesn't!
[21:46] <epimeth> noooobody?
[21:48] <jabrroa> whats up?meth
[21:49] <demon_> does ubuntu and kbuntu have the same kernel
[21:49] <OxDeadC0de> is it just me or is elisa stripped down a bit in ubuntu?
[21:50] <jabrroa> yes it does
[21:52] <Lupus-SLE> Hey people, I'm trying to run Quake Wars on my Kubuntu 8.10 setup and the game works fine, but I'm having an issue with the widescreen resolutions (16:10 in my case). When I select a non 4:3 resolution, the game doesn't fill the screen properly and gives me a letterbox effect. The only resolution this works for is my desktop resolution of 1440x900. Why does xorg hate me?
[21:52] <Lupus-SLE> I'm considering that I may need to add the resolutions I want to use to xorg.conf but I'm not certain and I'm no stranger to completely screwing that file up... yes/no/maybe? Also the fact xorg.conf isn't what it used to be now doesn't help... :(
[21:53] <epimeth> jabrroa: you with me?
[21:54] <epimeth> Lupus-SLE: I'm having issues with xorg myself... in my case xorg.conf isn't just "not what it used to be".  its just plain empty!
[21:55] <Lupus-SLE> epimeth: We gotta stick together man!
[21:55] <Lupus-SLE> I WILL get quake wars in 1280x800! I simply must!
[21:56] <epimeth> yea
[21:56] <epimeth> !
[21:56] <epimeth> if you do find anything about it, let me know, eh?
[21:56] <epimeth> although... my lappy is at 1280x800
[21:57] <jabrroa> same
[21:57] <epimeth> are you sure that its not the *game* that doesn't support 1280x800?
[21:57] <epimeth> it might not be an xorg issue
[21:57] <demon_> what kernel does Kubuntu 8.10 use? .27
[21:58] <JontheEchidna> demon_: .27
[21:59] <Lupus-SLE> epimeth: No it's definatly an xorg issue
[21:59] <Lupus-SLE> epimeth: Well...
[21:59] <Lupus-SLE> epimeth: It's not a game issue
[21:59] <Lupus-SLE> I don't think splash damage did THAT bad a coding job.
[21:59] <DrLurve> why does kubuntu not allow me permissions to create or modify content in the /root/ folder? o_O
[22:00] <Lupus-SLE> DrLurve: Because you're not root are you?
[22:02] <Lupus-SLE> epimeth: My theory is that my game is trying to set resolutions which xorg doesn't think it can support, and is thus snapping it to the nearest resolution
[22:03] <Lupus-SLE> I think I get a fullscreen 1440x900 resolution with a 1280x800 resolution box in the middle with my game in
[22:03] <DrLurve> Lupus-SLE: k now I'm confused.
[22:05] <Lupus-SLE> Me: Can I have 1280x800 please? Xorg: We don't serve 1280x800, though 1440x900 is SIMILAR, would you like that instead? Me: Oh go on then. ETQW: Even with the screen resolution of 1440x900, I'm setting it to 1280x800 because you asked me to, so it will appear like it was in a window.
[22:05] <Lupus-SLE> Followed by this | Me: RRAAAAGGGEEEEEE!!!!!
[22:07] <epimeth> lol
[22:07] <epimeth> sorry buuuudy
[22:07] <epimeth> demon: check out rname
[22:08] <epimeth> DrLurve: you aren't root
[22:08] <epimeth> DrLurve: and you shouldn't create things in /
[22:08] <Lupus-SLE> Or /root/ for that matter
[22:08] <epimeth> DrLurve: but if you absolutely need it, sudo
[22:08] <Lupus-SLE> DrLurve: What do you need to do that requires access to /root/ ?
[22:09] <sigp239> GNOME > KDE
[22:09] <epimeth> yea, if by ">" you mean "is more bad"
[22:09] <epimeth> :-)
[22:10] <harolddong> gnome is for grandmas
[22:19] <Zeelot> ok im on the live cd
[22:20] <epimeth> so anybody a network manager pro?
[22:20] <Lupus-SLE> IT DIDN'T WORK!
[22:20]  * dr_willis wonders what dident work.
[22:21] <Dragnslcr> Obviously the caps lock key
[22:21] <Lupus-SLE> I've added my additional resolutions to xorg.conf and it never did a damn thing!
[22:23] <epimeth> Lupus-SLE: yea, the new automatic driver locator thingy is a pain in the butt
[22:23] <Lupus-SLE> I don't have a driver issue
[22:23] <epimeth> Dragnslcr: you wouldn't happen to be a network manager wiz/
[22:23] <dr_willis> You are not using a KVM switch are you? Using a DVI LCD monitor? ANalog CRT? ANalog LCD?
[22:23] <epimeth> I know, I'm just saying that it loads stuff so I don't know what / when you can override
[22:23] <Lupus-SLE> I have a "it won't use the resolution for my game that I want it to" problem
[22:24] <Dragnslcr> epimeth- don't think so, sorry
[22:24] <dr_willis> So the desktop is the proper res then? its jUst a single game thatw wrong? What game?
[22:25] <epimeth> dr_willis: iwlist shows me a bunch of wireless networks that "new connection" in network manager doesn't!  same going the other way.  I need to connect to a iwlist connection... how do I get network manager to display those networks as well???
[22:25] <Lupus-SLE> dr_willis: Not a single game... it's Enemy Territory Quake Wars
[22:26] <Lupus-SLE> It seems to know what resolution I want, for instance I want the game to run in 1280x800
[22:26] <Lupus-SLE> My desktop doesn't support that resolution
[22:26] <Lupus-SLE> At least xorg doesn't think so
[22:27] <Lupus-SLE> So it makes the display 1440x900 and sticks it in a little 1280x800 screen so there's a black border all the way around
[22:27] <Lupus-SLE> it works if I set it to 1440x900 but I'm wanting a lower res for a higher frame rate
[22:28] <BluesKaj> Lupus-SLE, first of all what graphics card ?
[22:28] <ghrocks> hi everyone, im still having issues with kdenlive, now i have an error that says could not find drkonqi executable, any idea of what may be???
[22:29] <Lupus-SLE> BluesKaj: ATI Radeon x1950XT
[22:29] <jabrroa> i have 3 nvidia 9800 pro GTX 1gb's in sli mode :) wors nice
[22:30] <jabrroa> two moniters
[22:30] <Lupus-SLE> jabrroa: How good for you
[22:30] <BluesKaj> Lupus-SLE, ok , if you haven't checked this out it may help your problem   http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide
[22:31] <jabrroa> yes i know :)
[22:31] <jabrroa> although at first it was a hassle
[22:32] <Lupus-SLE> BluesKaj: What do you expect me to do with this?
[22:32] <Lupus-SLE> BluesKaj: I'm not trying to install the fglrx driver, I have that, it works fine.
[22:32] <chfwiggum> !glib
[22:32] <chfwiggum> !glib-2.0
[22:33] <Lupus-SLE> BluesKaj: If my theory is correct and it is just snapping to the nearest resolution, then I just need it to support 1280x800... but I don't know how to ADD support for that resolution because xorg.conf is all different and from what I can see the documentation is practicly non-existant!
[22:36] <epimeth> anybody know about network manager "new connection" wireless search showing different results than the ones listed in iwlist ?
[22:36] <epimeth> because network manager isn't finding my network, but iwlist is
[22:37] <epimeth> and at home, all I did was put in the ssid manually, and that worked.  at work I do the same  and it does try to connect to the network (and finds it), the network doesn't have dhcp.  so when I go and give it a manual configuration it *doesn't* find the network anymore!
[22:39] <jabrroa> !nickserv
[22:41] <reagleBRKLN> "Project Neon presents: KDE-Nightly" This isn't really nightly though, is it?
[22:41] <reagleBRKLN> i think those debs are from the summer?
[22:42] <rocme> I have a problem with kopete since I updated to Kubuntu 8.10:
[22:42] <jabrroa> how would one register with nickserv
[22:43] <rocme> if someone writes me a message, there is a msgbox which says that knotify crashed
[22:43] <reagleBRKLN> also, anyone have a pointer to kde4.2b1 debs?
[22:43] <ghrocks> anyone know something about kdenlive?
[22:44] <ghrocks> im having a problem strting it, it crashes and says that couldn't find drkonqi
[22:44] <epimeth> jabrroa: in the "status" window, type in /nickserv help
[22:45] <rocme> here is a screenshot of the error msg:
[22:45] <rocme> http://rocme.wgchaos.info/knotify.crashed.jpeg
[22:46] <rocme> the message appears when so writes me a msg with icq, jabber, ...
[22:46] <rocme> what can I do to fix this?
[22:46] <ahmos> hi ,amarok only play mp3s when i open it as a root,so can anybody help me please?!
[22:46] <jabrroa> got it :) thank you
[22:48] <gsc> knode has a terrible word wrap bug in 8.10 (version 0.99.01 kde 4.1.3). I tried to change to a older version of kde 4.1.2 in the hopes it would be solved, but the about states that it is still te same version
[22:48] <rocme> ahmos: what does amarok do as normal user?
[22:48] <gsc> what to do, to get an older version of knode?
[22:48] <alejandro> buenas noches, alguien sabe como instalar juegos de windows en kubuntu?
[22:49] <ahmos> it says mp3 is not supported click to download
[22:49] <rocme> and what happens if you click?
[22:50] <ahmos> nothing
[22:50] <alejandro> alguien sabe como instalo juegos de windows en kubuntu?
[22:50] <rocme> hm...
[22:51] <rocme> running amarok as root, everything works correctly?
[22:51] <ahmos> yes
[22:53] <rocme> did you try "another" normal user?
[22:53] <ahmos> no
[22:54] <epimeth> !es | alejandro
[22:54] <ahmos> i have only one user
[22:54] <tekstacy> !apt-fix
[22:55] <rocme> hm... try to backup your ~.kde/share/config/amarokrc and remove it...
[22:55] <ahmos> tried but nothing
[22:55] <ahmos> :(
[22:55] <rocme> interesting ;(
[22:56] <gsc> @ ahmos: what does the command 'groups' say?
[22:56] <ahmos> ahmos adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin admin
[22:56] <Bends> anyone here a preseed matster? I'm haivng trouble with an 8.10 server preseed, can't find the "no automatic updates" option...
[22:58] <ahmos> ;(
[22:59] <ahmos> rcome gsc any help
[23:00] <edi_99> Hi guys what's the easiest way to set up php?
[23:00] <gsc> @ ahmos: it must be a rights problem. I would go to synaptic, look at all the rights of the files and corresponding directories the package which contains the codec's provides
[23:01] <ahmos> can i do that with adept
[23:01] <epimeth> edi_99: tasksel install lamp
[23:01] <epimeth> this installs php, apache, mysql
[23:02] <edi_99> epimeth: I just put that into shell?
[23:02] <ambro779> how can I switch from the malfunctioning Qt4 GTK theme to the Ubuntu default ("Human") ?
[23:03] <mazetas> hi all
[23:03] <gsc> @ahmos: ah yes Kubuntu. I guess you can.
[23:03] <mazetas> may i ask about a webcam problem?
[23:03] <epimeth> edi_99: yup.  that is, if you want all three :-)
[23:04] <epimeth> edi_99: don't forget the sudo!
[23:04] <epimeth> !ask | mazetas
[23:05] <edi_99> epimeth: nothing really happens, is that OK? It's still for a sec and then drops into the new line
[23:05] <epimeth> edi_99: really?
[23:05] <mazetas> i have a trust webcam. it was working with previous kernel in Ubuntu just, not in Kubuntu. now it doesn't work in neither. can the drivers have been removed?
[23:05] <epimeth> edi_99: try sudo tasksel
[23:05] <ahmos> ok thank you all
[23:06] <edi_99> epimeth: seems like tasksel works
[23:06] <SteBo> Hi! Will there be KDE 4.2 Beta1 packages für Kubuntu 8.10?
[23:06] <SteBo> Or are they already available even?
[23:07] <edi_99> epimeth: is it possible that the installation occurs without any notification?
[23:07] <epimeth> edi_99: I *seriously* doubt it, but yes.  is "LAMP" selected in tasksel?
[23:09] <JontheEchidna> SteBo: probably within a few days they will be ready
[23:10] <SteBo> JontheEchidna: So someone is working on them currently?
[23:10] <edi_99> epimeth: nah, the only thing that is marked [*] is a Print server
[23:10] <epimeth> edi_99: so go ahead and select lamp :-)
[23:10] <JontheEchidna> SteBo: have been for the past week or so, but progress has been slow because of the upcoming Thanksgiving holiday and because the jump from 4.1.x to 4.2.x is somewhat large and needs to be properly tested
[23:12] <Lupus-SLE> Wait... there's a kde 4.2 already?
[23:12] <SteBo> JontheEchidna: ok, thank you for this work. :-) Sure take your time and have fun in the holyday. :-)
[23:12] <HappySmileMan> Lupus-SLE: Just beta for it so far
[23:12] <HappySmileMan> Another 2 months I think before full release
[23:13] <Lupus-SLE> HappySmileMan: Pics?
[23:13] <JontheEchidna> SteBo: be sure to thank apachelogger, ncommander, arby and vorian if you get the chance
[23:13] <JontheEchidna> :)
[23:13] <NCommander> JontheEchidna, we released it?
[23:13] <BluesKaj> lupus ..I was away having dinner ..this is my xorg.conf file..my ati is an onboard and my scrn res is 1680x1050 with no probs, http://www.pastebin.ca/1267641
[23:13] <JontheEchidna> NCommander: nope
[23:14] <HappySmileMan> Not using it right now, there's a few pics on kde.org and http://introducingkde.blogspot.com has recent builds reviewed
[23:14] <HappySmileMan> Sorry, http://introducingkde4.blogspot.com
[23:14] <JontheEchidna> NCommander: kdeplasma-addons and kdenetwork still need to be done, and the rest needs final reviewing
[23:14] <SteBo> JontheEchidna: Sure, I will. So thank you for giving me something to look forward the next days. Bye! :-)
[23:14] <JontheEchidna> then we backport to intrepid
[23:15] <Lupus-SLE> BluesKaj: You're not getting my problem. Let me explain it better. I have a 16:10 monitor that supports a maxiumum resolution of 1440x900. This works fine! On my desktop that's not an issue.
[23:15] <NCommander> JontheEchidna, and i10n
[23:15] <Lupus-SLE> BluesKaj: But for some reason, xrandr doesn't think I can have any other 16:10 resolutions, and I'd like it to support 1280x800
[23:16] <JontheEchidna> NCommander: we have a script that does that, and historically we have release before even if l10n isn't finished
[23:16] <NCommander> I'm almost done with kdegraphics, but I'm stuck in a dialup wonderland
[23:16] <Lupus-SLE> BluesKaj: I believe that if I can set 1280x800, then I can play my game in fullscreen without any borders from it not being able to set the correct resolution
[23:17] <JontheEchidna> I thought kdegraphics was already done?
[23:17] <BluesKaj> OK Lupus-SLE , my res is stuck at my scrns native 168x1050 , so i see your prob. I'm not able to change mine either
[23:17] <BluesKaj> 1680 x 1050
[23:17] <NCommander> JontheEchidna, still FTBFSing in main online
[23:18] <JontheEchidna> mmm
[23:20] <jason_> hey guys
[23:21] <BluesKaj> Lupus-SLE, do you have any options in /system settings/dispaly/size/drop down list ?
[23:22] <Lupus-SLE> I don't have a /size/ drop down list
[23:22] <jason_> have you installed your latest nividia drivers?
[23:22] <Lupus-SLE> Yes I do!
[23:22] <Lupus-SLE> It didn't see it there
[23:22] <BluesKaj> no size orientation / size / dropdown?
[23:22] <Lupus-SLE> And they're the same sizes I get from xrandr
[23:23] <Lupus-SLE> And as far as I can see, all 4:3 except for mine
[23:23] <Lupus-SLE> or 16:9
[23:23] <gsc> @ ahmos: which engine have you selected in amarok?
[23:23] <Lupus-SLE> 1280x768
[23:23] <Lupus-SLE> I have 1280x720
[23:25] <BluesKaj> Lupus-SLE, what monitor ?
[23:26] <Lupus-SLE> BluesKaj: Samsung SyncMaster 931BW
[23:26] <Ahmuck> wow, kubuntu 8.10 is garbage from what i can see.  it's buggy.  i think i'm going to regress to 3.x
[23:26] <Ahmuck> 8.04.1
[23:27] <Lupus-SLE> Ahmuck: What you got issues with?
[23:27] <BluesKaj> heh Lupus-SLE ,I'm running a Syncmaster 2253LW, so the resolution chosen in system settings should work
[23:27] <Ahmuck> i tried to change resolution and the copmuter locked up
[23:28] <Lupus-SLE> BluesKaj: They do, the problem is that the resolution I want ISN'T THERE!!!!
[23:28] <Ahmuck> artifacts when the menu system pulls down
[23:28] <Lupus-SLE> Ahmuck: Hmm...
[23:28] <Ahmuck> had to reboot and lost my launcher icon for some wierd reason
[23:28] <Ahmuck> all kind of things
[23:28] <Ahmuck> and i've only been using it for about 10 min
[23:28] <Lupus-SLE> Ahmuck: Often it's a better idea to wait until the major bugs are found before upgrading
[23:28] <BluesKaj> I just checked mine and the upgrades for different resolutions are now available , too bad yours isn't , Bummer ! :(
[23:28] <Ahmuck> ya, i did a new install, but it's baaaad.
[23:29] <Lupus-SLE> BluesKaj: I have other resolutions available, they're just not the ones I want!!
[23:29] <Lupus-SLE> Ahmuck: Sorry to hear that.
[23:29]  * BluesKaj is happy not to be a gamer on linux
[23:29] <Ahmuck> it looks promising but kubuntu should have waited before using this as a release imho.  or at least called it the guinea pig release
[23:29] <Lupus-SLE> Well... it works for me
[23:30] <Lupus-SLE> And KDE 4.1 is a sexy beast
[23:30] <Ahmuck> well, it's pretty, but it's also pretty bad
[23:30] <Lupus-SLE> I disagree
[23:30] <Ahmuck> anyhow, where does one do a hardware check and report now
[23:31] <BluesKaj> Ahmuck, right click on the desktop and choose add widgets, the kicker will be available there
[23:31] <Lupus-SLE> Ahmuck: i'm still trying to get to grips with what they did to xorg.conf though
[23:31] <Ahmuck> Lupus-SLE: interestingly enough, they are going to regress xorg.conf in the next release
[23:31] <jontec> speaking of xorg.conf my xrandr only shows the screens for my monitor, not the device and I need to add a higher resolution
[23:32] <jontec> (which requires the output name)
[23:32] <Lupus-SLE> Ahmuck: I can see why
[23:32] <Lupus-SLE> Ahmuck: They seem to of royally cocked it up.
[23:32] <Lupus-SLE> I CAN HAZ 1280X800 NAOW PLZ K THX?
[23:32] <BluesKaj> too much dependency on the HAL in Intrepid ..it's caused alot of grief for ppl who like to edit xorg.conf to make things work for their setups
[23:33] <Lupus-SLE> Or for people WHO WANT 1280X800!!!
[23:33] <jontec> BluesKaj: si.
[23:33] <Lupus-SLE> If they do this again they could just call it hal-9000 or have I missed that particular boat of irony?
[23:34] <BluesKaj> hehe, no kidding
[23:35] <Ahmuck> Lupus-SLE: that's exactly the resolution i wanted
[23:35] <Lupus-SLE> Ahmuck: I want it too!
[23:35] <Lupus-SLE> But kubuntu won't give me it
[23:35] <Ray2> hi, im testing kubuntu 8.10 on a macbook of a friend of mine
[23:35] <Lupus-SLE> !why I should keep living
[23:36] <Ray2> its a livecd and id would like to enable the right mouse button
[23:36] <Lupus-SLE> Ray2: Get one with a right mouse button?
[23:36] <Ahmuck> is the resolution thingy a 8.10 thing?
[23:36] <Ahmuck> or a kubuntu thing
[23:37] <BluesKaj> it's an 8.10 oversight
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> Ray2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=364844
[23:38] <Lupus-SLE> Well I've only thought of the solution to my problem of shite widescreen resolutions since I've been using 8.10
[23:38] <BluesKaj> trying to appeal too much to windows users , who need to be mollycoddled at every turn...big mistake IMO.
[23:38] <Ray2> ActionParsnip: thx
[23:38] <noaXess> is there any way to remove xfce and all dependencies if i installed xubuntu-desktop?
[23:38] <tkstka> Hi need help..
[23:39] <BluesKaj> !ask | tkstka
[23:39] <Lupus-SLE> BluesKaj: It's tried to give me a handjob... and it's wondering why I don't get any satisfaction out of having my arm rubbed :(
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> !purekde | noaXess
[23:39] <noaXess> hey ActionParsnip thanks :) and how are the live?
[23:40] <BluesKaj> bah, purists !
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: not bad dude, you alreet?
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: best way to be :D
[23:40] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: alreet? whats that?
[23:40] <BluesKaj> if a gtk works ok , I'll use it
[23:40] <KrispyKreme_> anyone know how to get wifi for atheros 5007eg on intrepid ibex?
[23:41] <KrispyKreme_> ubuntu members don't want to help
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: alreet == alright
[23:41] <noaXess> aha
[23:41] <noaXess> yes all is good
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: then thats entirely a user choice
[23:41] <BluesKaj> !wireless
[23:41] <Ahmuck> ah, i was going to do a complete re-install, but i just rememberd i can sudo aptitude ubuntu
[23:41] <tkstka> I'm quite new to linux expecially to Kubuntu.. So First task is to get my flashplayers work in my browser... hmm I have firefox installed and kubuntus own konqueror.. Now what do I type? sudo apt-get install ****?
[23:42] <tkstka> is there some own flashplayer for konqueror?
[23:42] <noaXess> ActionParsnip:  i think.. i need a fresh install on my notebook.. ;).. have testing a lot in kde3 on 8.04 and no upgraded to 8.10, testing around. and tested also xubuntu.. and now a lot of not needed packages are on the system.
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: then run dpkg -l | less and remove whats not needed
[23:43] <BluesKaj> tkstka, open adept and enable third party sources, the n lookmfor flashplugin-nonfree
[23:43] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: lot of work ;)
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: id weigh it up against a clean install
[23:44] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: i see that the instructions for PureKDE ist just for 8.04.. is it also for 8.10?
[23:44] <KrispyKreme_> BluesKaj: may I pm you?
[23:45] <BluesKaj> KrispyKreme_, I'm not a wireles user so my knowledge is extremely limited in that area
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: same deal, the app names are the same, just newer versions
[23:45] <KrispyKreme_> BluesKaj: well, it says to And add to the bottom of the file the following lines:
[23:45] <KrispyKreme_> blacklist ath_hal
[23:45] <KrispyKreme_> blacklist ath_pci
[23:45] <KrispyKreme_> do you need the # before it or just copy and paste?
[23:46] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: ok.. just test and see
[23:46] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper | KrispyKreme_
[23:47] <KrispyKreme_> I did go to that... BluesKaj
[23:47] <jontec> okay, I found the device name in xrandr, it actually was "default", but creating a mode 1024x768 with refresh rate 60Hz and adding it to the device, I get the following message: "xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed"
[23:47] <BluesKaj> sorry KrispyKreme_ I thought that would be a more extensive tutorial
[23:48] <KrispyKreme_> how do you install .deb files?
[23:48] <KrispyKreme_> just double click on them?
[23:48] <ubuntu> hi, can anyone help me with my soundcard? lspci prints out Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP79 High Definition Audio (rev b1)
[23:49] <BluesKaj> KrispyKreme_, right click on the app and choose the deb installer
[23:49] <KrispyKreme_> sorry for asking such an easy question. I'm probably the dumbest here
[23:50] <BluesKaj> choose open with /GDEBi package installer
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> KrispyKreme_: you can do it that way or: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
[23:51] <KrispyKreme_> ActionParsnip: have you gotten your wifi to work in intrepid?
[23:51] <BluesKaj> yeah ActionParsnip , time enuff for the cli in the future :)
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> KrispyKreme_: yep, works out of the box
[23:51] <KrispyKreme_> ActionParsnip: I need help finding the atheros 5007eg
[23:51] <KrispyKreme_> mine doesn't work for some reason
[23:52] <tkstka> BluesKaj how do I make the changes I'm in the adapt installer
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> KrispyKreme_: i think madwifi-tools sorts it out
[23:53] <BluesKaj> KrispyKreme_, did you see my suggestion about choosing "open with" then , GDebi package installer?
[23:54] <KrispyKreme_> BluesKaj: yeah, I got it installed
[23:54] <KrispyKreme_> ActionParsnip: what does that mean?
[23:54] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: kde-printer-applet.. why will this be removed?
[23:54] <BluesKaj> tkstka, choose the "sources " icon in adept
[23:55] <szrhawaii> oes anyone know how to cancel the kdesktop draing feature
[23:56] <szrhawaii> theres a feature that says to use another program as the drawing feature but im not sure how to make it so my ccsm does the drawing instead  of the kdesktop
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> KrispyKreme_: sudo apt-get install madwifi-tools
[23:56] <szrhawaii> #compiz
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: what did you do to make it want to uninstall?
[23:57] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: PureKDE
[23:57] <KrispyKreme_> ActionParsnip: okay, it finished getting the package
[23:58] <BluesKaj> tkstka, once you've enabled third party sources , then close the sources dialog box and type flash in the search box , install flashplugin-nonfree
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> KrispyKreme_: reboot, it should be ok. If not, its ndiswrapper for you afaict
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: well kde-printer-applet is part of kde
[23:59] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: kde4 also?
[23:59] <tkstka> BluesKaj I'm probably doing something wrong but I cant seem to find source icon anywhere :c