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| pckchem | quiet tonight | 00:57 |
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| Elbrus | Question of yesterday, didn't get an answer: where should comments/questions about wiki pages go? (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates) | 01:11 |
| bdmurray | Elbrus: it depends on the question | 01:11 |
| Elbrus | 1: I would assume that licensing issues are also a reason for SRU: if yes, that should be added | 01:12 |
| nhandler | Elbrus: I would suggest asking in #ubuntu-motu about SRU stuff | 01:12 |
| Elbrus | 2: what is the recommended naming convention for SRU packages | 01:12 |
| Elbrus | ? | 01:12 |
| maco | i dont think there's a naming convention | 01:13 |
| Elbrus | Ok, than my first question stands in general, shouldn't wiki's have a e-mail/irc channel/web-page for questions and comments (like on the wikipedia for instance?) | 01:13 |
| maco | just update it and change the version number in the debian/changelog, and when you make the source package, it'll append the version from debian/changelog | 01:14 |
| bdmurray | maco: you don't want the version number for the release being updated to be greater than the next release though | 01:14 |
| Elbrus | maco: I have seen some packages with the release in the name, and you might want to diffentiate between releases... | 01:15 |
| maco | bdmurray: oh i meant the -0ubuntuX changing the X part | 01:15 |
| nhandler | I know for backports, you append !release# to the end (i.e. ~hardy1) | 01:15 |
| maco | Elbrus: usually for libraries | 01:15 |
| * nhandler can't remember the process for SRUs | 01:15 | |
| Elbrus | aha, thats for backports... | 01:15 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 06:28 |
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| Pfiffer | Hola. | 07:05 |
| thekorn | good morning | 07:44 |
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| BUGabundo_work | guud morning | 08:07 |
| BUGabundo_work | hello asac Hobbsee ikonia ogra wgrant | 08:09 |
| Hobbsee | hey BUGabundo_work | 08:09 |
| BUGabundo_work | hi girl | 08:10 |
| BUGabundo_work | any one as a spare bed? /me is sleepyyyyyyyyy | 08:10 |
| * Hobbsee is no one's bed, sorry.. | 08:10 | |
| * Hobbsee points at some space in the corner, though | 08:10 | |
| BUGabundo_work | LOL | 08:10 |
| BUGabundo_work | didn't meant like that Hobbsee | 08:10 |
| Hobbsee | haha, right :) | 08:11 |
| * BUGabundo_work checks Hobbsee blog so look at the so mention corner | 08:13 | |
| * BUGabundo_work feels that looks outdated | 08:13 | |
| Hobbsee | yes, rather... | 08:14 |
| Hobbsee | I hate blogging. | 08:14 |
| Hobbsee | only slightly more than hating writing on mailing lists, which is why I tend to avoid them too | 08:14 |
| BUGabundo_work | I don't like to blog either | 08:14 |
| BUGabundo_work | but I love micro-blogging | 08:14 |
| BUGabundo_work | you should give it a try | 08:14 |
| BUGabundo_work | identi.ca is FOSS | 08:15 |
| BUGabundo_work | there's jaiku, plurk... and so on | 08:15 |
| BUGabundo_work | lets not talk about the big white whale (twitter) | 08:15 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm | 08:15 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 08:15 |
| BUGabundo_work | there's lots of us on identica | 08:16 |
| BUGabundo_work | I already mention to jorge that canonical should setup their own Laconica install | 08:17 |
| wgrant | BUGabundo_work: Evening. | 08:25 |
| wgrant | Hobbsee: Don't blog! | 08:25 |
| Hobbsee | wgrant: why? | 08:25 |
| wgrant | Resist the temptation. | 08:26 |
| BUGabundo_work | eheh | 08:26 |
| BUGabundo_work | how is the trip going wgrant? | 08:26 |
| wgrant | BUGabundo_work: Which trip? | 08:28 |
| wgrant | Are you mixing me up with somebody else again, like in #+1 a couple of days ago? | 08:28 |
| BUGabundo_work | maybe | 08:29 |
| BUGabundo_work | still up for 1 hour | 08:29 |
| BUGabundo_work | I keep messing up nicks | 08:29 |
| BUGabundo_work | you remember that fish in Nemo? | 08:29 |
| BUGabundo_work | that's me... no more than 3 sec memory | 08:29 |
| MAINERROR | you have to dump some files in your brain space :P | 08:30 |
| BUGabundo_work | I wish it was that easy MAINERROR | 08:32 |
| BUGabundo_work | what was that fish name? any one remembers? | 08:32 |
| BUGabundo_work | no google or IMDB, no cheatign | 08:32 |
| * wgrant never saw the movie all the way through. | 08:34 | |
| * Hobbsee thought the fish's name was 'nemo' | 08:35 | |
| BUGabundo_work | it was Hobbsee | 08:36 |
| MAINERROR | nah it wasn't nemo | 08:36 |
| BUGabundo_work | but the other fish | 08:36 |
| BUGabundo_work | the forgetful one | 08:36 |
| MAINERROR | I know the name BUGabundo | 08:36 |
| MAINERROR | :P | 08:36 |
| BUGabundo_work | no you don't | 08:37 |
| BUGabundo_work | other wise you would have said it | 08:37 |
| BUGabundo_work | and no cheatign | 08:37 |
| MAINERROR | nah the name was BUGabundo hehe | 08:37 |
| * BUGabundo_work wonders why he keeps messing ing with ign | 08:37 | |
| BUGabundo_work | DUH | 08:37 |
| BUGabundo_work | Hobbsee identica invite is on the mail | 08:49 |
| * Hobbsee glances at mail | 08:49 | |
| BUGabundo_work | anybody else interested in an identica account? | 08:50 |
| danage | today's security update: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org-core_1%3a2.4.1-11ubuntu2.1_i386.deb: short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/openoffice/program/libspa680li.so') | 08:53 |
| BUGabundo_work | danage: haven't hit that one yet | 08:55 |
| danage | it also tells me i have 8 broken packages | 08:55 |
| BUGabundo_work | jaunty or ibex? | 08:56 |
| danage | ibex | 08:56 |
| BUGabundo_work | I'm on jaunty | 08:56 |
| BUGabundo_work | maybe that's why I didn't notice it | 08:56 |
| danage | so off to launchpad, i guess? | 08:57 |
| BUGabundo_work | sure | 08:57 |
| danage | :) | 08:57 |
| BUGabundo_work | but that OOo update came out two days ago | 08:57 |
| BUGabundo_work | it should already be there, if more people were affected | 08:58 |
| james_w | danage: do you have a full hard disk? | 08:58 |
| BUGabundo_work | remember to use bug-buddy or apport to collect more data | 08:58 |
| danage | i doubt it | 08:58 |
| BUGabundo_work | df -h / | 08:58 |
| danage | 87 gig available | 08:58 |
| james_w | danage: that error indicates something wrong on your system, rather than something wrong with the update | 08:58 |
| danage | mehness | 08:59 |
| danage | well it was a distro upgrade from hardy | 08:59 |
| jibel | danage: is it something like bug 302333 or bug 302100 ? | 09:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 302333 in openoffice.org "Automatic update Openoffice 26nov08 failed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/302333 | 09:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 302100 in openoffice.org "openoffice.org-core 1:2.4.1-11ubuntu2.1 update fails to install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/302100 | 09:00 |
| danage | yeah | 09:00 |
| danage | exactly that | 09:01 |
| jibel | The error is "lzma: Decoder error" . which mirror are you using ? | 09:05 |
| jibel | mvo: Hi. I wanted to request an SRU in Intrepid for bug 294134 . Could you tell me why postgresql was added to the removal blacklist in hardy and if there is an impact to remove it in Intrepid ? | 10:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 294134 in update-manager "upgrade 8.10 tool failes because it cannot calculate upgrade" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/294134 | 10:31 |
| mvo | jibel: let me have a look | 10:35 |
| mvo | jibel: I think it was added because some packages from postgres moved from main to universe, but I think this is not a very good reason | 10:57 |
| jibel | mvo: ok, I'll try to commit the change against the intreprid branch this evening. Thanks | 11:17 |
| mvo | jibel: cool, thanks. ping when its ready, then I will sponsor the upload | 11:29 |
| mvo | jibel: (or if you need help with the commit or anything else :) | 11:39 |
| nhandler | What did we end up doing about the spam bug reports? I just found about half a dozen more of them. | 12:15 |
| Hobbsee | nhandler: well, I don't think they've actually fixed the bug yet, so the guy can reopen his account | 12:16 |
| nhandler | Hobbsee: But what are we doing about the actual bugs? Just marking them as invalid? | 12:16 |
| Hobbsee | nhandler: I presume that there will be a mass-tool to revert his actions. | 12:17 |
| nhandler | Hobbsee: I wouldn't be so sure about that. This is Launchpad we are talking about | 12:17 |
| Hobbsee | nhandler: tha'ts true. But even launchpad.... | 12:17 |
| Hobbsee | well, there's still stuff like py-lp-bugs | 12:18 |
| nhandler | Do you think I should leave the spam as private? | 12:19 |
| Hobbsee | nhandler: I wonder about emailing lp-users and asking what the launchpad guys plan to do about it. | 12:20 |
| Hobbsee | they should surely have a plan, as it's not the first time a spammer has come in | 12:21 |
| Hobbsee | or a malicious person | 12:21 |
| BUGabundo_work | and they keep coming | 12:22 |
| BUGabundo_work | last I heard/read the idea was to open an Answer with the link | 12:23 |
| BUGabundo_work | but that's just more mail... | 12:23 |
| BUGabundo_work | uff | 12:23 |
| Hobbsee | BUGabundo_work: well, it will keep coming, until launchpad manages to fix the reactivation bug. | 12:23 |
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| bddebian | Boo | 15:06 |
| BUGabundo_work | foo bddebian | 15:10 |
| bddebian | :) | 15:11 |
| BUGabundo_work | did anyone else notice the use of ENTER in Firefox today?? | 17:08 |
| chrisccoulson | ping kees - do you know if bug 302209 is actually a bug or a design decision (ie, that we all download security updates from the official ubuntu repository instead of local mirrors)? | 19:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 302209 in synaptic "the repository in /etc/apt/source.list is not coherent with the server choice" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/302209 | 19:04 |
| kees | chrisccoulson: the order of repos in /etc/apt/source.list matters. if a security update is found in local mirror, it should be fetched from there. | 19:05 |
| kees | chrisccoulson: however, the reason to leave security.ubuntu.com in the sources.list is so you know if there are very new updates that haven't mirrored to the other locations yet | 19:05 |
| kees | chrisccoulson: so, I think, based on your bug, that's a "feature" | 19:06 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks. so, if a user enables security updates in software-properties, the URL that gets added to the sources.list should be a http://security.ubuntu.com one instead of the local mirror? Is that correct? If it is, then i'll close the bug and give the reporter some feedback | 19:07 |
| kees | chrisccoulson: I *think* so, but you should probably check with mvo first, since he wrote it. :) | 19:08 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks:) | 19:08 |
| mvo | chrisccoulson: ideally it should do both I guess | 19:13 |
| mvo | chrisccoulson: what kees said, we want to be sure that people get seucurity updates even if there (local or other) mirror is out-of-date (not unheard off ;) | 19:13 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks mvo. so, you think it probably is a bug then, in the sense that it should add both central and local mirror? | 19:14 |
| mvo | chrisccoulson: i haven't touched that code in a while, if it does not add both, I guess the bug should be re-titled | 19:14 |
| mvo | chrisccoulson: yeah | 19:14 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks, i'll do that:) | 19:14 |
| mvo | chrisccoulson: I guess it could be argued that it should not add security.u.c in some cases (e.g. when the user is behind a firefox that does not allow him to connect to the outside etc) - but I think that is special enough to just edit sources.list manually | 19:15 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i agree | 19:15 |
| chrisccoulson | i think the use case for that scenario wouldn't happen that often though | 19:16 |
| hacktick | hey, 302571 and 302606 are spam. | 20:56 |
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| hacktick | someone should set them to 'private' isnt it? | 20:57 |
| chrisccoulson | bug 302571 | 21:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 302571 in ubuntu "t2embed.dll" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/302571 | 21:04 |
| chrisccoulson | bug 302606 | 21:04 |
| ubottu | Bug 302606 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/302606 is private | 21:04 |
| chrisccoulson | someone already dealt with them it seems hacktick | 21:05 |
| chrisccoulson | i wonder why this user isn't banned? all they do is submit spam | 21:05 |
| chrisccoulson | he's submitted loads of private bugs in the last hour or so it seems | 21:06 |
| chrisccoulson | according to lp answers, he's already been banned, but he's back with a different user name | 21:09 |
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| hacktick | chrisccoulson: I just hope he is one real person and not a bot... | 21:20 |
| chrisccoulson | i just spoke with mthaddon in #launchpad. they're currently looking at ways around it but unfortunately lp has no spam management and the user keeps re-registering | 21:22 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't know if its a real person or a bot. if it's a real person then they really should get a life | 21:23 |
| hacktick | he uses msn and hotmail-accounts :) | 21:44 |
| hacktick | maybe its bill gates :) | 21:44 |
| rbanffy | Hi folks. Is this the appropriate channel to beg for attention? | 22:08 |
| nhandler | rbanffy: It depends on the type of attention you want | 22:09 |
| rbanffy | I have an unbearably disfunctional desktop right now ;-) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/302227 | 22:09 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 302227 in ubuntu "Cursor movement, screenshot clipping and redraw problems on dual-headed, Intel 945GME desktop after 20081125 compiz/X update" [Undecided,New] | 22:09 |
| rbanffy | nhandler: It is really bad | 22:09 |
| rbanffy | nhandler: Any idea on what could it be or any info I could collect to help? | 22:21 |
| rbanffy | nhandler: The machine works. It's just a pain to use | 22:22 |
| nhandler | rbanffy: I'm not sure what the cause of the bug is right now. I'll take a closer look at it later. | 22:25 |
| rbanffy | nhandler: Thanks | 22:27 |
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