[00:32] mythbuntu decided to get rid of my preferences [00:32] i set everything back up [00:32] now my damn tuner doesnt work anymore all of a sudden [00:32] AllareRegistered: Please watch your language. [00:32] what can cause this? [00:37] AllareRegistered, what kind of tuner? [00:37] foxbuntu, PVR-150 [00:37] foxbuntu, and i cannot seem to set it up again, yet cat /dev/video1 > bla.mpg works [00:38] AllareRegistered, did you set the tuner back up in the backend? [00:38] (/dev/video0 is another card) [00:38] ok [00:38] foxbuntu, offcourse, but it just disappeared :s [00:38] did you set the card up as a PVR-xxx card or Analog V4L device? [00:38] all i did was import new guide data from a xml, which is imported fine and was working earlyer [00:39] i set it up as PVR-x [00:39] it worked fine [00:39] but now the backend cannot find it if i set it [00:40] check the backend log to see what is going on, /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log [00:40] ok [00:41] foxbuntu, ERROR: no valid capture cards are defined in the database. [00:41] foxbuntu, thats the only thing that i think doesnt belong there [00:41] ok [00:41] so go into the backend setup, delete the tuners and set them back up [00:42] make sure to select the correct video card and device node [00:42] the tuner disappeared from there, and i tried to set it back up there [00:42] thats not working [00:42] and thats the reason im here [00:42] it cannot open the tuner [00:43] ok...so whats it doing when you setup the tuner in the backend? [00:43] it just cannot open it [00:43] so i can set it up all i want if it cant open it theres no video [00:43] !pastebin | AllareRegistered [00:43] AllareRegistered: when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel. Then please post the link in the channel. [00:43] i even rebooted to make sure [00:43] AllareRegistered, dmesg | grep ivitv [00:44] oops [00:44] AllareRegistered, dmesg | grep ivtv [00:45] foxbuntu, http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m4d088064 [00:45] foxbuntu, /dev/video1 is the one im using, the other one is a DC10+ that one does not have a tuner [00:46] I see that [00:46] AllareRegistered, did you change a username? [00:46] just trying to be clear, peopel got confused with it in the past [00:46] AllareRegistered, nope [00:48] when you did a: cat /dev/video1 > some.mpg did you use sudo? or just the normal user? [00:48] foxbuntu, sudo [00:48] there is your issue [00:48] its permissions [00:48] foxbuntu, aha :D [00:48] ok, let me find the proper group [00:48] foxbuntu, what would be the correct permissions? [00:48] ah thanx [00:49] weird that the permissions changed though :s [00:49] yeah...not sure what happened there [00:50] looking really forward to my new 1TB external drive ill get tomorrow :) [00:50] looool i know what can have happened [00:50] my mom allmost fell over my keyboard the other day [00:51] AllareRegistered, sudo nano /etc/group [00:52] foxbuntu, what am i looking for? [00:52] add your username to the video group [00:52] along with mythtv [00:52] foxbuntu, mythtv is allready in it :( [00:52] `sudo adduser $USER video` [00:52] video:x:44:mythtv,ubuntu [00:53] hads, that too [00:53] AllareRegistered, so add yours with a comma to that line [00:53] ok but should mythtv be enough? [00:53] video:x:44:mythtv,ubuntu,someuser [00:53] nope your local user needs to be in there too [00:53] done [00:53] Depends who's running the backend [00:54] hads, well if the backend cant open it then yes [00:54] well something with a user is been up for sure [00:54] but i have no clue what [00:54] AllareRegistered, reboot/restart x/log out, take your pick and it should be working again [00:55] yes but im logged in as the right user [00:55] it only has two users [00:55] my user and mythtv [00:56] pfff i still cannot open it [00:56] do i need to restart something? [00:56] try cat again [00:56] cat /dev/video1 > some.mpg [00:57] still denied [00:57] wth [00:57] `sudo adduser $USER video` [00:57] then reboot [00:57] try again [00:58] The user `bla' is already a member of `video'. [00:58] k [00:58] reboot anyway? [00:58] sure [00:58] cant hurt [00:58] its pretty fast anyway [00:59] also mythbuntu just starts, it doesnt ask for a username, etc, but i seem to be logged in as my user [00:59] terminals start in my home folder so [01:00] foxbuntu, lol wth, after a reboot its working [01:01] i mean cat [01:01] nice :) [01:01] AllareRegistered, good, prob just needed to reload the module with the new perms applied [01:01] backend setup seems to find it too [01:01] yes i think so too :) [01:02] * foxbuntu waits for hads to chime in that a reboot wasnt required [01:02] You shouldn't need to reboot there ;) [01:02] i know lol [01:02] but we didnt know that before :p [01:03] i mean didnt realise :) [01:03] AllareRegistered, I did, I just was being lazy [01:03] did want to explain two commands [01:03] niiiiice :) [01:03] reboots are good :) [01:04] and what do i see when starting watch TV [01:04] the video with the douchebags that treathen belgium lol [01:05] btw i can recommend mc2xml if you have no grabber for your country [01:06] the grabber for belgium doesnt work for a while now and mc2xml seems a very good replacement [01:06] AllareRegistered, yes, but thats the MS MCE grabber right? [01:06] only needs a little script to rename station IDs in the xml file [01:06] foxbuntu, correct [01:07] AllareRegistered, yeah, we dont support that or mention it though around these parts due to it violating the ToS of the MS site [01:07] ah ok i didnt know that sorry [01:07] np [01:07] just being clear [01:08] well got to do something if theres no working grabber :) and the site where the grabber used to go to isnt ok with it either [01:08] we wouldnt want to lose our support or status in the community over something silly like that [01:08] offcourse not [01:09] what is the correct way to export to xvid btw? [01:09] correct / best [01:09] mythexport [01:09] i read about nuvexport but it didnt seem to work so far [01:10] aha, but i cannot choose xvid with mythexport? [01:10] or i missed something [01:10] perhaps I am wrong there [01:10] i googled it a couple of times but i didnt find anything but nuvexport stuff [01:10] rhpot1991_laptop, xvid on mythexport or no? [01:11] im asking because i got a small drive and a xbox360 (which wont open mpeg2 because MS seems to be stupid and doesnt make sodecs for its own device) [01:11] for xvid i even had to install a update :s [01:12] at first it was only wmv / wma [01:12] yeah thats common [01:12] it works nice if you use a supported format though [01:12] got to give them that [01:12] ya mythexport can do xvid [01:13] might check out the the MythTV + Xbox projects to find out more [01:13] rhpot1991_laptop, how please? [01:13] foxbuntu, its a 360, fairly unhackable [01:13] AllareRegistered: export_codec=xvid [01:13] AllareRegistered, yeaa [01:13] no [01:13] would prob want to use ipod as the device unless another one fits better [01:14] foxbuntu, i think you mean the old xbox, which was easy to get linux on [01:14] and just blow up the res [01:14] foxbuntu: I'm gonna order that camera tonight [01:14] rhpot1991_laptop, sorry where can i find it again? im still not used to the settings menus [01:14] rhpot1991_laptop, I will have mine in the morning [01:15] oh wait its in the backend right [01:15] AllareRegistered: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythExport [01:15] rhpot1991_laptop, speaking of ipods, did I mention I bought an 8G touch with that order? [01:15] i was looking in the frontend [01:15] ya foxbuntu [01:16] rhpot1991_laptop, than [01:16] im excited [01:16] x [01:18] rhpot1991_laptop, so i should only use it from a terminal :s [01:18] rhpot1991_laptop, I called and chewed them out today over them being morons about my shipping [01:18] rhpot1991_laptop, aaah never mind i see it now [01:18] AllareRegistered, no you put those into the user jobs in the backend [01:18] AllareRegistered: the best way to do it is as a userjob [01:19] thats how i tried to do it with nuvexport aswell [01:19] then it will automatically run on recordings that you tell it to [01:20] i only saw the options mpeg4 etc in the menus i never knew i needed to do this for xvid [01:20] nice docs [01:23] save the wiki, save the world [01:23] AllareRegistered: make sure you get it from the testing ppa and not from the regular ubuntu sources, the one in intrepid is busted [01:23] ;) [01:24] rhpot1991_laptop, ok [01:27] mythexport exportdir=/var/lib/mythtv/videos/RecordingsArchive starttime=%STARTTIME% chanid=%CHANID% size=768x576 aspect=4:3 audio_bitrate=192kb video_bitrate=5000kb export_device=ipod export_codec=xvid [01:27] rhpot1991_laptop, how does that one look? if you dont mind checking [01:28] might want to toss a video_bitrate in as well, or it will default to a lower one [01:28] oh wait, I can't read :) [01:28] lol [01:29] what does device=ipod ? [01:29] i mean what does it do [01:30] sorry for my bad english [01:30] it uses the device to try and choose a good ffmpeg line, ipod will be the most generic, through feel fry to switch to the others and try them out [01:31] well its mainly for a xbox [01:31] xbox360 [01:32] it will work there pretty well if you can get the codec/res good [01:33] nice [01:33] AllareRegistered: you can actually do export_device=xbox360 [01:34] lol just in time :p [01:35] its undocumented cause it wasn't really tested much and really is the same thing as the ipod currently [01:35] nice to know for updates then [01:35] i set it to xbox360 anyway [01:36] let me find you the 360 specs [01:36] rhpot1991_laptop, i got a transcoding error [01:37] but offcourse i cannot see which one [01:37] where can i check the exact errors of transcoding please? [01:38] /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log [01:39] thanx again [01:39] AllareRegistered: http://www.xbox.com/en-AU/support/xbox360/digitalmedia/videoplaybackfaq.htm [01:40] tells you specs in there that the 360 can handle, sadly the max res is for wmv container [01:41] yes and xvid is not even there [01:41] and it supports xvid just fine [01:41] their docs just suck bigtime [01:41] xvid is mpeg4 [01:41] is all mpeg4 xvid? [01:41] because i tried transcoding to mpeg4 [01:42] the xbox didnt like it [01:42] xvid however is perfectly fine [01:44] the error is just that it didnt find mythexport [01:44] mpeg4 is a container, they are different [01:44] I think I have that right [01:44] so i did [01:44] whereis mythexport [01:44] mythexport: [01:44] no location :s [01:45] did you install it? [01:45] apperantly not :s [01:45] heh [01:45] i assumed it was there lol [01:45] since i installed mythbuntu [01:45] add the testing ppa and then sudo apt-get install mythexport [01:45] ya its not installed by default [01:45] !%Test% [01:45] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases/MythbuntuDesktop [01:45] bah thats not it [01:45] lol its funny though [01:45] that that was the problem all the way [01:46] !%testing [01:46] to enable the mythbuntu-testing PPA, please go to http://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu-testing/+archive and add the sources.list entries for your distro version (gutsy, hardy, intrepid) to /etc/apt/sources.list [01:46] rhpot1991_laptop, it asks my mysql admin account [01:47] rhpot1991_laptop, lol its in the regular repo aswell? [01:47] i can just apt-get it with the regular repo [01:47] but im not sure how to configure it [01:47] it is, but that one is busted [01:48] :o [01:48] ffs [01:48] I'm in the process of getting a SRU, so get the one from testing [01:48] i misunderstood that earlyer [01:48] i allready installed it [01:48] just uninstalling fixes it? [01:48] enable the testing repo and do: sudo apt-get update [01:48] thenL sudo apt-get upgrade [01:48] nooooooo way [01:48] it should upgrade it then [01:48] last time i did that my system went byebye [01:49] heh, should be safe, but just go ahead and remove and then install it then [01:49] can i not get the deb manually? [01:49] or you can use synaptic to only upgrade a single package [01:49] nono i mean updating with the tresting repo [01:49] thats not something i want to do with a non testing box :p [01:49] yes but can i then remove the repo again afterwards? [01:50] else i cannot update regular packages anymore [01:50] because it will update from the testingrepo instead of the regular one [01:50] well there isn't much in there thats dangerous [01:50] it killed my system before so [01:50] i was hoping i could just get the deb i need and isntalll only that deb [01:51] prob shoulda asked this before, intrepid? [01:51] yes 8.10 [01:51] thats inrepid right? i allways forget the names [01:51] amd64/i386/ [01:51] ? [01:51] yep [01:52] i386 [01:52] its running on my old AthlonXP 2800+ :) [01:52] Anybody know where I can find details on how to get a Hauppauge PVR 150 working with Mythbuntu 8.10? I'm getting "failed to get data for code 0, key 525" when doing an irsend, which, according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lirc/+bug/275549, seems to imply a problem with the codes being sent. Trying to use the blushingpenguin.com lircd.conf gives me a segfault when starting lirc. [01:53] https://launchpad.net/%7Emythbuntu-testing/+archive/+files/mythexport_1.0.5-0ubuntu1~ppa1_i386.deb [01:53] lol wow my tv card has a IR transceiver??? [01:53] AllareRegistered: ^ [01:53] i didnt know that lol [01:53] rhpot1991_laptop, thanx again [01:54] ya the 150 can ir blast and receive [01:54] :S [01:54] If you can get it working. :) [01:54] so i hooked up my serial receiver for nothing? [01:54] lol ah ok [01:54] AllareRegistered: I dunno how installing that deb is gonna work with the dependencies though [01:55] so ill stick with the serial receiver then :) [01:55] rhpot1991_laptop, it wants to remove 6 packages and install 17 so im not gonna try it [01:56] rhpot1991_laptop, so ill look further into nuvexport, and wait untill mythexport is working [01:56] AllareRegistered: that sounds right, pastebin it and I'll check [01:56] The receiver actually works without problems. Getting the transmitter working seems to be a bear. I had problems when I installed MythTV on fedora 18 months ago and I'm having problems now. [01:56] in the regular repo [01:56] !pastebin [01:56] when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel. Then please post the link in the channel. [01:56] it removes the stripped codecs and installs the unstripped ones so you can do aac/mp3/etc [01:56] rhpot1991_laptop, i dont think i want to take the risk since nuvexport seemed a good alternative [01:57] rhpot1991_laptop, well if its possible to know beforehand if my system will remain working i would take the risk [01:57] pastebin what it wants to remove/install and I'll verify [01:58] cannot pastebin [01:58] stupid package installer doesnt render it as text [01:58] So nobody has the PVR-150 IR blaster working with 8.10? :( [01:58] TJ1, let me know if you get it working please :) [01:59] For as popular as the card is, I'm surprised at how many difficulties I've had with it. [02:00] rhpot1991_laptop, is there a way to check trough the commandline? [02:00] rhpot1991_laptop, else i need to type over by hand all the packages lol [02:00] sudo dpkg -i [02:00] aaah thanx need to remember that one [02:01] rhpot1991_laptop, and to get output in english? its dutch now so you probably cant read it [02:02] yikes, I dunno [02:02] translate.google.com? [02:03] rhpot1991, jsut a sec ill ask in another channel [02:05] rhpot1991_laptop, LC_ALL=C command [02:06] :) [02:07] rhpot1991, http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m43fea1c1 [02:08] AllareRegistered: one second [02:08] rhpot1991_laptop, ok [02:09] AllareRegistered: those are all fine, those are the codecs, but that doesn't mention what it wants to remove, what were those? [02:10] rhpot1991_laptop, wtf just a sec, broken dependencies i get now... [02:11] rhpot1991_laptop, im just not gonna risk this, my gut says ill end up with a broken system [02:11] AllareRegistered: this is why you use apt and don't install packages by hand :) [02:11] nah this should be safe, doesn't touch anything system related [02:11] just some perl modules and ffmpeg [02:11] rhpot1991_laptop, this is why you only use the repo or compile stuff :p [02:11] i wont risk it lol [02:12] broken repos are from dpkg [02:12] I bets [02:12] sudo apt-get -f install should fix them [02:13] rhpot1991_laptop, i know im doing that now [02:13] i didnt even try to install it and i allready got a broken apt lol [02:13] * AllareRegistered deleted forsakened .deb [02:14] dpkg will do that when it fails [02:14] cause the deb is half installed [02:14] why is it half installed :s [02:14] broken dependencies, dpkg can't fix those on its own, which is why you use apt or something else [02:16] yes but it seems just so much more safe to use nuvexport [02:16] btw if you use -s with apt it will do a test run and not actually install them [02:16] aha [02:16] ok i suppose i can do that [02:16] AllareRegistered: I can verify if the 6 packages to remove are safe or not, or you can just try nuvexport, your call [02:17] too bad it didnt make it in the regular repo in time though :( [02:17] ill look at the packages first [02:17] I'm pushing it to intrepid-proposed tonight [02:17] should work its way back in [02:17] nice [02:17] thanx for you work on it [02:17] I didn't know medibuntu wasn't going to have a ffmpeg this time [02:17] till it was too late [02:19] aaaaaah the 6 packages were because i allready broke my system while half installing the one in the repo [02:19] now it only says requires installation of one package [02:19] and thats apache2 :s [02:20] ok mythtv is still working :s [02:20] i mean mythweb [02:20] * AllareRegistered is confused [02:20] why does mythexport need apache2 ? and i thought mythweb used it aswell [02:21] rss feed [02:21] so thats safe to install? [02:21] since i run mythweb aswell [02:21] ya [02:22] ok [02:22] ah now i get a GUI for configuration :) [02:22] with the one from the repo i got a terminal [02:23] prob just depends how you install, both should give you the same results [02:23] rhpot1991_laptop, mysql admin user and password, they are in some txt file right? [02:23] AllareRegistered: normally when you setup mysql it asks you if you want to set a root password [02:24] rhpot1991_laptop, yes correct i started from terminal before [02:24] use that [02:24] so root and then your password on the next [02:24] rhpot1991_laptop, no clue what it is then [02:24] the mythtv one should work too, but thats tucked away [02:24] rhpot1991_laptop, my regular root and its password? [02:24] no, thats different [02:24] damn [02:24] AllareRegistered: Please watch your language. [02:24] the mysql one is seperate [02:24] then i have no clue lol [02:25] you should be able to use the mythtv one, let me get you the location of the file [02:25] /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt [02:25] seemes a bit more secure aswell [02:25] all it needs is a user who can make a table in the mythconverg db [02:27] rhpot1991_laptop, server location can remain localhost right? im asking because i need to change it to my internal ip in the general settings when i installed mythtv [02:27] rhpot1991_laptop, then its probably better to use the mythtv user [02:27] ya localhost is fine, as long as mysql runs locally [02:27] since root would have way too much rights for what it needs [02:28] rhpot1991_laptop, ok thanx [02:28] well it just makes the table and thats it, dosen't use that ever again [02:28] oh perfect :) [02:30] rhpot1991_laptop, i created a new transcoding job to xvid, waiting for it to start nw [02:30] rhpot1991_laptop, can i somehow make it start immediately? [02:30] rhpot1991_laptop, never mind same error only it says its done now [02:31] so now i have the same sh*t as with nuvexport [02:31] i think i need a smokebreak [02:31] AllareRegistered: pastebin your backend log [02:31] the end of it at least [02:32] also you can start jobs via mythweb [02:32] if you go to recordings then choose one, it will give you buttons to queue the jobs up [02:32] rhpot1991_laptop, i allready found one problem myself [02:33] rhpot1991_laptop, ill just pastebin it because i have no clue how to solve all this [02:33] AllareRegistered: ok [02:33] or how to explain it lol [02:34] http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m7a680451 [02:35] wow i didnt see this line before [02:35] Unknown encoder 'xvid' [02:35] AllareRegistered: did you change the file name at some point? [02:35] ah wait, nevermind [02:35] rhpot1991_laptop, not that i know, i might have transcoded it before though [02:36] hrmmmpf [02:36] no i didnt [02:36] im sure i didnt :) [02:36] I think I need to push a new version to the ppa [02:36] how do you mean? [02:37] i dont understand that [02:37] ppa? [02:37] ah its an old deb lol? [02:37] that would be funny :) [02:39]