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aramorning all :-)07:41
* ara -> lunch12:42
* ara -> reboots14:35
aracr3: morning :-)15:57
cr3ara: hiya!15:57
aracr3: how are you doing?15:57
cr3ara: all good, working on some exciting stuff15:58
cr3ara: and you, how's desktop testing coming along?15:59
aracr3: all good, we will need to discuss at uds about hte gnome participation, but so far so good16:00
araabout that, how did you start ldtp + at-spi-registry to be more reliable?16:00
araI cannot remember16:00
aracr3 ^16:00
cr3ara: do you have all tests closing windows now? and can the test suite be run multiple times in a row, there was a problem with some applications which have forms to complete when first opened16:01
cr3ara: are you having reliability issues when running it as yourself? the concern I worked on was mostly when running it as root on behalf of another user16:01
aracr3: yes, sometimes ldtp server just fails. good news is that nagappan is moving ldtp core from C to Python. wohoo!16:02
cr3ara: might it be too late to start such a migration from C to Python considering Strongwind is starting to get noticed by Gnome16:03
aracr3: well, strongwind is in a very early stage. Maybe they could join both projects16:04
cr3ara: that would sound like a win, instead of scattering resources. it's not as if they seem that different anyways, it's just a layer over at-spi16:05
aracr3: yes, definitely16:06
nagappanhi cr321:38
cr3nagappan: hi there!21:51
cr3nagappan: ara tells me you're thinking of rewriting the C parts of ldtp to Python21:51
nagappancr3, I have already done the recording part, currently doing the execution engine21:54
nagappancr3, have sent email21:54
nagappancr3, to you and other GNOME guys21:54
nagappancr3, requesting your inputs21:54
cr3nagappan: nice! how do you feel about strongwind in respect to ldtp?21:55
nagappancr3, StrongWind, doesn't have many ready made API as LDTP, just my opinion :) LDTP is easy for QA engineers and StrongWind will be easy for developers to extend the framework21:57
cr3nagappan: my concern is that it seems like a duplication of effort and, if ldtp has many ready many API, that could be useful for developers as well21:58
cr3nagappan: is strongwind a project that was initiated by gnome or someone else?21:59
nagappancr3, by Medsphere22:00
cr3nagappan: sounds corporate, so I still don't quite understand the motivation for choosing strongwind over ldtp :(22:02
nagappancr3, :)22:03
nagappancr3, currently LDTP being used by VMware, Palm Source, ofcourse Ubuntu, Evolution project, soon there will be announcement from European Union22:03
nagappancr3, http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/ldtp-dev/2008-June/000625.html22:04
nagappancr3, some work is going on, which I can't share now much22:04
cr3nagappan: and it's been used by Novell for a long time22:04
nagappancr3, yes22:04
cr3nagappan: the list goes on, which begs the question even more why to choose something else :(22:04
nagappancr3, I don't know from where StrongWind suddenly came, I don't see much activity, apart from some one speaking22:05
nagappancr3, anyways I don't want to speak much on public channel about other tools22:06
nagappancr3, I can share a doc, which my manager created before moving from Dogtail to LDTP for VMware Workstation testing22:07
cr3nagappan: I understand, but this should also be of public concern how we're suddenly scattering resources which breaks my heart :(22:07
nagappancr3, I can give data from my side, about LDTP22:08
cr3nagappan: might you happen to know if there's any form of compatibility between ldtp and strongwind so that tests can potentially be shared between the two projects?22:12
nagappancr3, as of now there is no, probably we can look into it22:12
cr3nagappan: will you be at fosscamp and/or uds?22:12
nagappancr3, I will attend the Ubuntu conf in Mountain View, this year end22:13
nagappancr3, ara has invited me :)22:13
cr3nagappan: she rocks!22:13
nagappancr3, BTW did you got the other email from me ?22:14
nagappancr3, 2 emails22:15
cr3nagappan: the one about enlarging my manhood? seriously, I received both of 'em :)22:19
nagappancr3, cool22:22
nagappancr3, need your valuable inputs22:22
cr3nagappan: I'm not sure I understand:  Let us work on the application level common things together. Could you please provide us info on how to go about ?22:23
nagappancr3, I mean, the applications are common for all the distribution22:23

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