[07:41] <ara> morning all :-)
[12:42]  * ara -> lunch
[14:35]  * ara -> reboots
[15:57] <ara> cr3: morning :-)
[15:57] <cr3> ara: hiya!
[15:57] <ara> cr3: how are you doing?
[15:58] <cr3> ara: all good, working on some exciting stuff
[15:59] <cr3> ara: and you, how's desktop testing coming along?
[16:00] <ara> cr3: all good, we will need to discuss at uds about hte gnome participation, but so far so good
[16:00] <ara> about that, how did you start ldtp + at-spi-registry to be more reliable?
[16:00] <ara> I cannot remember
[16:00] <ara> cr3 ^
[16:01] <cr3> ara: do you have all tests closing windows now? and can the test suite be run multiple times in a row, there was a problem with some applications which have forms to complete when first opened
[16:01] <cr3> ara: are you having reliability issues when running it as yourself? the concern I worked on was mostly when running it as root on behalf of another user
[16:02] <ara> cr3: yes, sometimes ldtp server just fails. good news is that nagappan is moving ldtp core from C to Python. wohoo!
[16:03] <cr3> ara: might it be too late to start such a migration from C to Python considering Strongwind is starting to get noticed by Gnome
[16:04] <ara> cr3: well, strongwind is in a very early stage. Maybe they could join both projects
[16:05] <cr3> ara: that would sound like a win, instead of scattering resources. it's not as if they seem that different anyways, it's just a layer over at-spi
[16:06] <ara> cr3: yes, definitely
[21:38] <nagappan> hi cr3
[21:51] <cr3> nagappan: hi there!
[21:51] <cr3> nagappan: ara tells me you're thinking of rewriting the C parts of ldtp to Python
[21:54] <nagappan> cr3, I have already done the recording part, currently doing the execution engine
[21:54] <nagappan> cr3, have sent email
[21:54] <nagappan> cr3, to you and other GNOME guys
[21:54] <nagappan> cr3, requesting your inputs
[21:55] <cr3> nagappan: nice! how do you feel about strongwind in respect to ldtp?
[21:57] <nagappan> cr3, StrongWind, doesn't have many ready made API as LDTP, just my opinion :) LDTP is easy for QA engineers and StrongWind will be easy for developers to extend the framework
[21:58] <cr3> nagappan: my concern is that it seems like a duplication of effort and, if ldtp has many ready many API, that could be useful for developers as well
[21:59] <cr3> nagappan: is strongwind a project that was initiated by gnome or someone else?
[22:00] <nagappan> cr3, by Medsphere
[22:02] <cr3> nagappan: sounds corporate, so I still don't quite understand the motivation for choosing strongwind over ldtp :(
[22:03] <nagappan> cr3, :)
[22:03] <nagappan> cr3, currently LDTP being used by VMware, Palm Source, ofcourse Ubuntu, Evolution project, soon there will be announcement from European Union
[22:04] <nagappan> cr3, http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/ldtp-dev/2008-June/000625.html
[22:04] <nagappan> cr3, some work is going on, which I can't share now much
[22:04] <cr3> nagappan: and it's been used by Novell for a long time
[22:04] <nagappan> cr3, yes
[22:04] <cr3> nagappan: the list goes on, which begs the question even more why to choose something else :(
[22:05] <nagappan> cr3, I don't know from where StrongWind suddenly came, I don't see much activity, apart from some one speaking
[22:06] <nagappan> cr3, anyways I don't want to speak much on public channel about other tools
[22:07] <nagappan> cr3, I can share a doc, which my manager created before moving from Dogtail to LDTP for VMware Workstation testing
[22:07] <cr3> nagappan: I understand, but this should also be of public concern how we're suddenly scattering resources which breaks my heart :(
[22:08] <nagappan> cr3, I can give data from my side, about LDTP
[22:12] <cr3> nagappan: might you happen to know if there's any form of compatibility between ldtp and strongwind so that tests can potentially be shared between the two projects?
[22:12] <nagappan> cr3, as of now there is no, probably we can look into it
[22:12] <cr3> nagappan: will you be at fosscamp and/or uds?
[22:13] <nagappan> cr3, I will attend the Ubuntu conf in Mountain View, this year end
[22:13] <nagappan> cr3, ara has invited me :)
[22:13] <cr3> nagappan: she rocks!
[22:14] <nagappan> cr3, BTW did you got the other email from me ?
[22:15] <nagappan> cr3, 2 emails
[22:19] <cr3> nagappan: the one about enlarging my manhood? seriously, I received both of 'em :)
[22:22] <nagappan> cr3, cool
[22:22] <nagappan> cr3, need your valuable inputs
[22:23] <cr3> nagappan: I'm not sure I understand:  Let us work on the application level common things together. Could you please provide us info on how to go about ?
[22:23] <nagappan> cr3, I mean, the applications are common for all the distribution