[00:00] <zsquareplusc> Fezzler1: and if there is a "format" checkbox, check it
[00:00] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> Done.  Under Filesystem it says "linus-swap
[00:00] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> So I have: ext3, extended and linux-swap
[00:00] <mcphail> sweet_dreams: acroread can add comments if they have been enabled in acrobat pro. There is no open-source program which can do this in a standardised fashion yet (that i am aware of).
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> tha_toadman: sudo mk2fs -J /dev/partition name>
[00:01] <Prafswithbest> I want to install Ubuntu from pen drive I got ISO file and extracted to pen drive but Installtion struck at CD _rom mount can any pne help me
[00:01] <zsquareplusc> Fezzler1: fine. so it should display the actions it will do in a window. like, delete hda2/hda5, resize hda1, create hda2/hda5, format hda5 to swap
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> !usb | Prafswithbest
[00:01] <mcphail> sweet_dreams: the gnupdf project will work on this
[00:01] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> Do I need to get the New Partition extended named /dev/hda2 again and swap named /dev/hda5?
[00:01] <doug_> who all is running ibex...and is it safe to do an upgrade vs a clean install
[00:01] <doug_> im about to move my home to a new partition
[00:01] <sweet_dreams> mcphail: You mean there is no way right now?
[00:02] <tha_toadman> ActionParsnip: ok...how to i gather what the drive is before i issue that command?
[00:02] <sweet_dreams> mcphail: Acrobat reader Pro runs on wine?
[00:02] <zsquareplusc> Fezzler1: yes, that would be best. so you dont need to change any other file. if names do not match we do need to edit something later
[00:02] <mezquitale> anybody knows if you can configure samba to be a primary domain controller for linux machines?
[00:02] <judgen> I was wondering the following: If you are using the EXT2/3 driver for windows, can it corrupt your ext drive if you are using journaled ext3? and if so, how do i turn off journaling for the drive?
[00:02] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> Yup. shows all that.
[00:02] <lvella> hey there, I am using some software from repository that have been updated on their official release. How can I get those updated in the repositories?
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> tha_toadman: sudo fdisk -l
[00:02] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> So hit Apply and we'll change names after?
[00:03] <mcphail> sweet_dreams: no. some pdf readers allow you to add comments, but they don't comply to any pdf standard
[00:03] <sudobash> is there any way to run a Windows Partition through VMWare? Do i just have to configure the VMDK and vmx a certain way?
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> tha_toadman: look at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?chap=4&part=1
[00:03] <lvella> And more, there is an free software library that I would like to see included in the repositories. How can I do that?
[00:03] <zsquareplusc> judgen: tune2fs controls flags such as journaling. but iirc it should work well using the ext3 as ext2 and it will automatically recover if you use it as ext3 again
[00:03] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> Moment of truth!?  Apply?
[00:03] <zsquareplusc> Fezzler1: yes. you still have the original drive as a backup if anything goes wrong. right?
[00:04] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> Yup.  :)
[00:04] <darkeyzs> how can i check my ubuntu to see if it is clean
[00:04] <darkeyzs> ?
[00:04] <tha_toadman> ActionParsnip: right on...yeah i'll check that out
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> darkeyzs: define clean
[00:04] <zsquareplusc> darkeyzs: clean from what?
[00:04] <sudobash> clamav
[00:04] <sudobash> sudo apt-get install clamav
[00:04] <doug_> thats kinda vauge darkeyzs
[00:04] <sweet_dreams> mcphail: I don
[00:04] <tha_toadman> ActionParsnip: if i have differing sizes of disks, will "dd" care about that or not...i know the drive isn't full
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> darkeyzs: sudo apt-get clean
[00:04] <doug_> LOL
[00:05] <darkeyzs> i opened one jpg file but it was a com file and i think ubuntu now is bit messed up
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> tha_toadman: nope, it'll go til it reaches the end of whatever you are dding
[00:05] <sweet_dreams> mcphail: I don't care if they are compatible! There is a program named Xournal out there. But it is not what I want. Do you know any program?
[00:05] <tha_toadman> ActionParsnip: awesome! thanks for your help! :)
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> tha_toadman: np man
[00:05] <tim167> hi, how do i list _only_ the filesize of a specific file ?
[00:05] <Semidios> anyone know how to get a sony handycam hooked up via firewire to work as a webcam for Skype?  It works instantly on my Mac, but I want it on my linux box.
[00:05] <mcphail> sweet_dreams: give me a minute to check
[00:06] <darkeyzs> ActionParsnip how can i see if ubuntu is messed up
[00:06] <zsquareplusc> tim167: ls -lh filename
[00:06] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> "An error occurred while applying the operations.  The following operation could not be applied to disk:  Resize /dev/hda1 from 5.69 GiB to 18.6 GiB
[00:06] <sweet_dreams> mcphail: Thanks!
[00:06] <tim167> zsquareplusc: thanks ill try it :)
[00:06] <zsquareplusc> Fezzler1: argh.. is it still mounted or something?
[00:06] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> "See details for more information."
[00:07] <tim167> zsquareplusc: that command lists other info too, i'd want only the filesize is that possible ?
[00:07] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> Nope - no lock/mount
[00:07] <doug_> how much space is needed for an ubuntu install
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> darkeyzs: well, what behaviour are you experiencing?
[00:07] <LjL> doug_: about 3 gig
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> doug_: minimal is about 2gb to be comfortable
[00:07] <Into_the_Pit> doug: for root 10 gb should be enough
[00:07] <jbeitler> doug_: it depends on which install you are doing
[00:08] <zsquareplusc> tim167: you could pipe (|) it to cut and extract what you need. or ds -h filename might work
[00:08] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> Message is "check filesystem on /dev/hda1 for errors and (if possible) fix them"
[00:08] <doug_> well basically im going to shrink my / partition...to leave room for a separate /home partition
[00:08] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> We did that and fsck reported clean
[00:08] <doug_> i have a 160 gb...so maybe i leave 15 gm
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> doug_: then run df -h and you will see what has been used so far
[00:08] <notyjoey> whats a good util for monitoring the CPU temps and all that information
[00:08] <LjL> doug_: sounds sane
[00:08] <notyjoey> with a GUI
[00:08] <darkeyzs> some error windows after using  nautilus
[00:08] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> Close gparted?
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> doug_: yeah 15gb is pleanty enough
[00:08] <goudkov> on ubuntu hardy, when i insert a blank cd-r, it assumes that it's a cd-rw. is there a way to fix it?
[00:08] <zsquareplusc> Fezzler1: hm. i dont know why... at least you know now the theory on how to do it ;-)
[00:08] <doug_> also ....not to be a bother...but what is the best way to image an hdd in linux...im tranfering my install to a 320 internal that i just bought
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> darkeyzs: whats the error say?
[00:09] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> Oh, the drill down says /dev/hda1 i mounted
[00:09] <Pretto> tim167, du -h filename
[00:09] <innovate2000> hello all - I have two questions - when adding new drives to a RAID5 array, should I partition and format the drives first before using mdadm to grow the array?
[00:09] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> I swear it mounted it as it was processing the partition change
[00:10] <tim167> Pretto: cool, close, it would be even better if i could get the filesize in bytes
[00:10] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> You're leaving me?
[00:10] <darkeyzs> 	
[00:10] <darkeyzs> Gconf error: Failed to contact server configuration; some possible causes are that you need to activate network services TCP / IP to orbit, or have exclusive NFS derived from a system crash. See http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/ for more information. (Details - 1: Error ping the server: IDL: omg.org / CORBA / COMM_FAILURE: 1.0)
[00:10] <FloodBot2> darkeyzs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:10] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> So is my partition hosed?
[00:10] <Pretto> tim167, remove  the -h
[00:10] <Pretto> tim167, du filename
[00:10] <uriahheep> umm, does anyone here know about pinning?
[00:10] <darkeyzs> An error occurred while reading or writing configuration information for Nautilus. Some of your configuration settings may not work correctly.
[00:10] <tim167> Pretto: perfect thanks!
[00:10] <darkeyzs> sorry for the flood
[00:11] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> Now what?
[00:11] <zsquareplusc> Fezzler1: nah. you will get this to work. im just not sure why it complains
[00:11] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> I htink so
[00:11] <innovate2000> Second question - I am using Intrepid Ibex - and although I can kinit and klist with success, when I do net ads join - the server tells me that it cannot find the DC for the domain (I can ping the GC successfully with short hostname as well as FQDN)
[00:12] <GreedyB> whats the most common place to mount drives to?
[00:12] <smoby> tim167, with du and the parameter -h you can know exactly the unit used for informed about the file. du -h file
[00:12] <drog>  /mnt?
[00:12] <drog> err /mnt/___/
[00:12] <jonaskoelker> on translations.launchpad.net, when translating text, how should strings inside tags be handled?
[00:13] <tim167> smoby, thanks, i just tried du -hb filename now
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> GreedyB: make a folder in /media and use that
[00:13] <darkeyzs> ActionParsnip?
[00:13] <GreedyB> ActionParsnip, thanks
[00:13] <zsquareplusc> Fezzler1: maybe re run fsck.ext3 -f  /dev/hda1  that should force a check
[00:13] <benoka> I have 2 active wireless cards running, how do I disable one of them or change the order (intrepid)
[00:13] <benoka> ű?
[00:13] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> Second time seems to be a charm - taking longer but seems to be working
[00:13] <smoby> tim167, df (disk free) is other util command
[00:14] <mluser-work> can someone please tell me what the 'rpm -qf <path to file>' equivalent in apt?
[00:14] <zsquareplusc> innovate2000: you let us guess that it is a kerberos problem? ;-)
[00:14] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> It is running check on its own
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> darkeyzs: no idea man, thats crazy. try web searching for a section of that error
[00:15] <darkeyzs> ActionParsnip how do i check ubuntu from the ground?
[00:16] <innovate2000> zsquareplusc: I am still somewhat of a noob - but from my understanding, if it were Kerberos, would kinit and klist work?
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> darkeyzs: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/gconf-error-failed-to-contact-configuration-server-193590/
[00:16] <tha_toadman> ActionParsnip: one more question, do i need to worry about declaring a block size when using "dd"? most examples on google have like bs=4k or bs=1024k
[00:16] <zsquareplusc> innovate2000: i remember these as commands for kerberos. used to attach to a windoze domain for example
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> darkeyzs: https://issues.foresightlinux.org/browse/FL-1774
[00:17] <tha_toadman> ActionParsnip: or would a command as simple as -- "dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb" be sufficient?
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> tha_toadman: yeah thats fine
[00:17] <zsquareplusc> tha_toadman: bs is not so relevant but bigger sizes ( some kb to mb) ususaly make it faster copying
[00:17] <mcphail> sweet_dreams: can't think what i used to use for this, but you could try running foxit reader under ubuntu...
[00:17] <aprilhare> my installation of ooo3 went ok - but i tried starting the word processor and I get a fatal error: the application cannot be started... help! fear fire foes awake!
[00:17] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> Here is what is happening. 1) It does resize /dev/hda1 from 5 to 18 GB; 2) It checks for errors - okay; 3) It resizes partition 4) It checks again but then comes back "/dev/hda1 is mounted" and aborts.
[00:18] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> It is mounting the drive automatically
[00:18] <sysdoc> Hey guys, I was looking for some material on moving an Ubuntu install from one partition to another. Just got vmware running and have XP in a vm and am looking to move some partition content around. Anyone have a howto or other documentation available?
[00:18] <chemmmy> anyone that can help me with ircd-hybrid, I keep getting connection refused when trying to connect
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> aprilhare: is there a ~/.OO.org folder?
[00:18] <tha_toadman> ActionParsnip: ok thanks again!
[00:18] <aprilhare> ActionParsnip, no
[00:18] <aprilhare> make it?
[00:18] <sweet_dreams> mcphail: I read in ubuntu forum that Foxit reader linux won't work on ubuntu
[00:18] <innovate2000> zsquareplusc: yes - I am trying to attach the server to Windows domain (have succesfully done this for *several* (like 8) servers - but they were 8.04 servers - now that 8.10 is out, I wanted to add an additional server - and upgrade the others)
[00:18] <habanto> holaa
[00:18] <sweet_dreams> mcphail: Did you try it yourself?
[00:19] <habanto> alguien q sepa españolll
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> aprilhare: or ~/.openoffice.org2
[00:19] <zsquareplusc> Fezzler1: no it should not. maybe.. it thinks its mounted because it was when you started parted. you may need to restart gparted and redo the resize :/
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> aprilhare: cd ~/; ls -a
[00:19] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> Goes on to grow filesystem to fill partition, checks again and aborts again because hda1 is mounted, Halts
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> aprilhare: try renaming the .openoffice folder and rerun
[00:19] <mcphail> sweet_dreams: no. I had something which could add comments in the past. Maybe it was a kde app. I have removed most of kde from my system.
[00:19] <darkeyzs> ActionParsnip format?
[00:20] <habanto> alguien q sepa español
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> darkeyzs: no, read the posts
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> !es | habanto
[00:20] <zsquareplusc> innovate2000: i just used it once, so i cant really help. but some domain controllers are set up to only accept connections from known hosts. or the host needs a certificate. also make sure that the clocks are synced
[00:20] <aprilhare> ActionParsnip, "mv .openoffice.org2 .OO.org" still cannot be started
[00:20] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> Ok.  So I have a /dev/hda1 mounted ext3 /media/MYUBUNTU 18.16 GB and 502 unallocated
[00:20] <innovate2000> that should have been 8 servers - but they were all 8.04
[00:20] <habanto> ok
[00:20] <habanto> gracias
[00:20] <mezquitale> how do I make it so that my hard drives are automatically activated and dont have to browse them before amarok can play my music stored on the HD?
[00:21] <sweet_dreams> mcphail: I'm downling foxit reader right now. In the site stated that the program is only being test on Suse or Fedora. Can be a program compatible with Fedora and not with Ubuntu?
[00:21] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> try to unmount and create extended only, then swap only, one at a time?
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> aprilhare: mv ~/.openoffice.org2 ~/.openoffice.org2_old
[00:21] <mcphail> sweet_dreams: just tried Foxit and it segfaulted
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> aprilhare: nm, i misread
[00:21] <sweet_dreams> mcphail: What does it mean segfaulted?
[00:21] <innovate2000> zsquareplusc: clock synced (server time offset = 0)
[00:22] <benoka> !info evolution
[00:22] <kkerwin> Hi. Looking for a program that will synchronize the contents (file by file) of my usb drive and my home directory. If file.usb is newer than file.home, file.usb is the file copied to both drives. And vice versa. More complex than simply copying a drive. Any ideas?
[00:22] <zsquareplusc> Fezzler1: all in one should as well work. i think the problem is that it was mounted at program start. gparted only checks the drives at startup or when refresh from the menu is selected
[00:22] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> So the extended creates the partition and linux-swap tells it to use that space as a swap file
[00:22] <mezquitale> kkerwin try unison, thats what i use
[00:22] <mcphail> sweet_dreams: generally means it will be a world of pain to get it working, in my experience
[00:22] <mezquitale> kkerwin:  try unison
[00:22] <kkerwin> mezquitale: Heh. Was not expecting that to come up on the first hit on google. Thanks!
[00:23] <benoka> !info wammu
[00:23] <aprilhare> ActionParsnip, where do i go from here?
[00:23] <zsquareplusc> Fezzler1: if you want to go into details... partition tables can only hold 4 entries. extended partitions are a hack to reference an other table with again 4 entries. so you can make more than just 4 partitons
[00:24] <innovate2000> anyone else use intrepid and winbind?
[00:24] <mumbles> anyone one use tomcat here?
[00:24] <mcphail> sweet_dreams: can't remember if you can add comments with pdfedit. Might be worth having a look. Quite an ugly program though
[00:24] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> I did them one at a time unmounting /dev/hda1 each time and it worked.  Also it renamed the extended /dev/hda2 and the swap /dev/hda5 just like we needed.
[00:24] <sweet_dreams> mcphail: Yeah I saw the error
[00:24] <EvilAIM> Hey guys, what's the best way to find out what ethernet card is in the tower? It's an onboard.
[00:24] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> Success?
[00:24] <sweet_dreams> mumbles: What is your problem?
[00:25] <mumbles> trying to get the admin interafce to work
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> aprilhare: try running from one of the open office suite from terminal
[00:25] <mumbles> and my google skills are week
[00:25] <sweet_dreams> mcphail: I will try it
[00:25] <zsquareplusc> Fezzler1: so everything applied now? and if you double check with fdisk -l ? :-)
[00:25] <sayers> My sound has ceased working, I went to sound options and set it as my speakers under media however flash sound does not work just native apps
[00:25] <mercutio22> I can' t boot into ubuntu any longer. I tried to reinstall grub but I keep getting error 15: file not found!
[00:25] <Pretto> tim167, du -hb  wget-log | cut  -f1
[00:25] <sweet_dreams> mcphail: Why Adobe does not releas Acrobat Pro for linux when they release Acrobat reader! Damn them
[00:25] <mercutio22> I can' t diagnose the problem, any ideas?
[00:26] <Pretto> tim167,  sorry  $ du -hb  filename | cut  -f1
[00:26] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> Did not double check with fdisk -l
[00:26] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> will do now
[00:26] <mumbles> i keep on getting the request resource /manager/html is not availible
[00:26] <pckchem> EvilAIM: One surefire way is to look though the output of lspci
[00:26] <sweet_dreams> mumbles: I used tomcat several years in development but I never used its admin feature!
[00:26] <feddozz> Hi, how to set the main password of the keyring?
[00:26] <mumbles> sweet_dreams:  ok
[00:26] <zsquareplusc> mercutio22: is it complaining about "stage".. is the menu showing?
[00:26] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> You da man!
[00:26] <tim167> Pretto: what does the | cut -f1 do?
[00:27] <mcphail> sweet_dreams: gnupdf may be released before adobe properly supports linux.
[00:27] <mumbles> is it any good sweet_dreams ?
[00:27] <aprilhare> ActionParsnip, no error message in terminal, same behaviour
[00:27] <zsquareplusc> Fezzler1: rebooting to the system is the true check ;-)
[00:27] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> You da man!
[00:27] <Pretto> tim167, get only the filesize withouth the name
[00:27] <mercutio22> zsquareplusc: the menu is showing. Its not complaining about anything else, just error 15: file not found
[00:27] <sweet_dreams> mcphail: That sounds wonderful
[00:27] <tim167> Pretto: super :)
[00:27] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> One last thing before I reboot
[00:28] <sweet_dreams> mcphail: Do you haveany idea when it might  be?
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> aprilhare: then check system logs
[00:28] <zsquareplusc> mercutio22: it seems to miss a file that is referenced in /boot/grub/menu.lst. did you change partitions/disks?
[00:28] <sweet_dreams> mumbles: Yeah It is perfect for development as long as you don't wanna develop EJBs
[00:28] <mcphail> sweet_dreams: i suspect it will prob be a year or 2. sorry
[00:28] <sweet_dreams> mcphail: :(
[00:28] <rdz> hi all. frequency scaling on my macbook pro (unibody) works only between 1.5 and 2.5GHz, i guess, it doesn't use the full range, that the hardware supports. what can i do?
[00:28] <sweet_dreams> mcphail: Someone must fund this projects!
[00:28] <rdz> i would like it to go lower than 1.5GHz
[00:29] <mumbles> sweet_dreams:  an i just want something that holds up
[00:29] <mumbles> goes to find where the /http files are
[00:29] <sweet_dreams> mumbles: As i migrated to Netbeans it comes with glassfish and I use it instead of tomcat
[00:29] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> You know that second /dev/hdb that is my nice 200gig I mount as /home?  Well when I upgraded from Gutsy to Hardy somehow it went from one big drive to two 90gig drives
[00:29] <mumbles> i will try that in a while
[00:29] <feddozz> Hi, how to set the main password of the keyring?
[00:29] <mumbles> just wanted something to pu t on the home server
[00:29] <zsquareplusc> rdz: yes there is some setting in /proc or /sys that sets min/max frequencies and when it has to change to the next step. don't remember the exact name though
[00:29] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> Since we are in gparted, can I get it to one big drive again?
[00:30] <sweet_dreams> mumbles: I think tomcat is very good for simple to medium tasks
[00:30] <zsquareplusc> Fezzler1: yes, that will be an easy one. but it'd test the resized one first
[00:30] <sweet_dreams> mumbles: You don't need to learn much configuration. Once we had a full version of Liferay portal running on tomcat
[00:30] <BlueEagle> That system information that pops up when one logs in to the server, is it possible to get that by using a command (ie not have to log out and back in?)
[00:30] <aprilhare> no messages in system log viewer
[00:30] <rdz> zsquareplusc, yeah, i know.. powernowd is scaling it. but why is the minimum value so high?
[00:30] <aprilhare> try reinstalling?
[00:30] <cdm10> feddozz: go to Applications>Accessories>Passwords and Encryption Keys, go to the Passwords tab, and go to Edit>Preferences. Look at the Password Keyrings tab
[00:30] <mumbles> sweet_dreams:  liferay ?
[00:31] <zsquareplusc> Fezzler1: or do you want to wipe the 200gb drive? i thought you meant mounting one of the partitions there
[00:31] <mercutio22> zsquareplusc: I didn't. I did have problems with my partition table weeks ago
[00:31] <BlueEagle> never mind. It updates. :)
[00:31] <sweet_dreams> mumbles: yeah
[00:31] <sweet_dreams> mumbles: I worked on it about 2 year!
[00:31] <mercutio22> zsquareplusc: my fstab file had wrong UUIDs
[00:31] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> I have /dev/hdb1 ext3 /media/disk 94gb../dev/hdb2 extended nd that has under it /dev/hdb5 ext3 /media/disk-1 and /dev/hdb6 linux-swap
[00:31] <rdz> zsquareplusc,  cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies
[00:31] <rdz> 2527000 2394000 2128000 1862000 1596000
[00:31] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> it is a mess
[00:31] <sweet_dreams> mumbles: It has performance issues
[00:31] <mercutio22> zsquareplusc: I suppose something may be wrong there
[00:32] <zsquareplusc> mercutio22: if you want to wipe it, yes, you can use gparted to create a ext3 that spans the entire disk
[00:32]  * mumbles gets lost
[00:32] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> No wipe the 200gig.  That is where all my data is as the 200 is /home is fstab
[00:32] <feddozz> >>cdm10<< tnx
[00:32] <chupy> i need help i cant open some aplications in ubuntu only with the terminal this is the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/76976/
[00:32] <mercutio22> zsquareplusc: no, I don' t want to loose my files. I just want to be able to boot into ubuntu again
[00:32] <zsquareplusc> mercutio22: ah so its not choosing the right "root". you may use /dev/sdaX too if you dont know the UUID. or use blkid to find out the UUID
[00:33] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> See, system on smaller 20gig hda and /home on hdb new 200gig safe with data
[00:33] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> I just want one big hdb again
[00:33] <zsquareplusc> rdz: looks like these are the available steps in Hz (not MHz)
[00:33] <sweet_dreams> mumbles: Liferay is one of available opensource java portals. check its website out
[00:33] <aprilhare> dam it reinstalling didn't work
[00:33] <mercutio22> zsquareplusc: wait up, I will paste some info for you
[00:34] <rdz> zsquareplusc, yeah, but how comes, that there are only 5? /proc/cpuinfo says, that there should be six steps
[00:34] <GeorgeAScott> hi all.  i'm trying to install libwnck.. it shows up in synaptic as libwnck18 but says it can't be installed.  i checked my repositories and reloaded and i get the same error (Package libwnck18 has no available version, but exists in the database.)
[00:34] <dmulholland> hey, is there any easier way to do wallpapers that change every 10mins in new gnome? (the links i finding are 3 years old)
[00:34] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> I don't know how my hdb2 extended in 92gig and of that 90 is another /media/disk and only 1.8gig is the swao
[00:35] <cdm10> chupy: try this: "sudo aptitude reinstall libgksu2-0 gksu"
[00:35] <chupy> ok
[00:35] <zsquareplusc> Fezzler1: you have backups of the data there? or nothing valuable.. then use gparted, you're an expert now ;-) then we need to edit /etc/fstab on hda1 so that it only gets /home form sdb
[00:35] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> can we clean this up?
[00:35] <rdz> zsquareplusc, and i am pretty sure, that os x runs lower values, when idling, otherwise battery usage couldn't be that slow... but i am not sure, since i couldn't find a cpu freq monitor for osx. however, i suspect, that ubuntu is doing something wrong here. is that possible?
[00:35] <mercutio22> zsquareplusc: whats wrong here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/76978/
[00:36] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> I don't have back-up
[00:36] <gavagai> What does the ubuntu add-on for firefox do?  it's installed by default
[00:36] <rdz> zsquareplusc, i can't run ubuntu for more than 1.5hours with one battery cycle, but i can run almost 5h on os x.
[00:36] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> Is this real risky
[00:36] <zsquareplusc> rdz: i have a lower limit of 1.6GHz here too. i think that's normal
[00:36] <rdz> zsquareplusc, ok.. surprising then... what's the point in scaling only so little?
[00:36] <chupy> do i restart?
[00:36] <zsquareplusc> Fezzler1: if you have data on the 200gb disk i'd leave it alone and just mount the partitions. only resize when you have back ups
[00:37] <cdm10> chupy: I don't think you'd have to...
[00:37] <cdm10> !who | chupy
[00:37] <rdz> zsquareplusc, but thanks very much for checking
[00:37] <zsquareplusc> rdz: dunno. proof of concept ;-)
[00:37] <pckchem> dmulholland: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=612498
[00:37] <chupy> cmd10: ok sorry
[00:37] <chemmmy> i need some help with ircd-hybrid, went through config scripts many time still connection refused
[00:37] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> shutting down and rebooting new drive
[00:37] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> see what happens
[00:37] <cdm10> chupy: cdm, not cmd... did the package reinstall fix it?
[00:38] <billysponch> hi all ...Anyone knows how to run a app on a different workspace with the command line ?
[00:38] <chupy> no
[00:38] <Prafswithbest> Hay people
[00:38] <Prafswithbest> I still have problem
[00:38] <PhoenixP3K> anyone got info on broken OpenOffice3?
[00:38] <pckchem> dmulholland: Also checkout webilder
[00:38] <aprilhare> i checked with synaptic and there are a number of packages still installed for oo2.4 should i remove?
[00:38] <pckchem> !info webilder
[00:38] <chupy> cdm10: no... sorry
[00:39] <aprilhare> PhoenixP3K, in that situation myself
[00:39] <dmulholland> thanks pckchem
[00:39] <billysponch> Anyone knows how to run a app on a different workspace with the command line ?
[00:39] <chupy> cdm10: it says me the same
[00:39] <PhoenixP3K> aprilhare, did the update tonight, now I can't run it. Do you think I can roll back to Oo2.4?
[00:39] <cdm10> chupy: do this: aptitude show python-gnome2-extras | grep State
[00:39] <histo> PhoenixP3K, my buddy had it break
[00:39] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> going thru some new hoops upon boot.  force check, new swap, setting clock, etc
[00:39] <aprilhare> PhoenixP3K, no idea
[00:40] <histo> PhoenixP3K, Mine is working fine. Try running sudo aptitude clean then reinstall the openoffice-core
[00:40] <aprilhare> PhoenixP3K, i'd prefer to get it working
[00:40] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> new drive is quiet - a bonus
[00:40] <mumbles> sweet_dreams:  ah will do
[00:40] <cdm10> chupy: and tell me what the output of the command is
[00:40] <Prafswithbest> I have ubuntu iso file with me and I want to make my pen drive installable as we do install from CD but I am getting confuse about it how to do it
[00:40] <mumbles> tring to work out where i upload stuff  to change the root of tomcat
[00:40] <billysponch> Anyone knows how to run a app on a different workspace with the command line ?
[00:40] <chupy> cdm10: dont show me anything
[00:40] <zsquareplusc> Prafswithbest: unetbootin would be an option
[00:40] <histo> aprilhare, try sudo aptitude clean then reinstall the openoffice-core package
[00:41] <PhoenixP3K> histo, gonna try that real quick.
[00:41] <cdm10> chupy: it means you mistyped... try just doing: aptitude show python-gnome2-extras
[00:41] <cdm10> chupy: and tell me what it says for "State". If you want to paste into the command line, use Ctrl-Shift-V
[00:41] <Prafswithbest> any one know how can I install ubuntu on my laptop using pen drive insted of CD rom
[00:41] <histo> !install | Prafswithbest
[00:42] <aprilhare> histo, waiting on download :) 30 secs left
[00:42] <billysponch> Anyone knows how to run a app on a different workspace with the command line ?
[00:42] <cdm10> !repeat | billysponch
[00:42] <magicmax> hi guys, im fairly new to linux, and ive installed Ubuntu on my new netbook (Acer Aspire One) is works great besides one problem. I cant seem to be able to conect to any wireless networks, including the one in my home, which i know is working...
[00:42] <aprilhare> 544 kB/s jeez ubuntu dists can be fast
[00:42] <histo> aprilhare, that is assuming that was the package you were having problems with if not you can reinstall all the oo packages.
[00:42] <aprilhare> repos even
[00:42] <aprilhare> histo, remove all old packages I can find?
[00:43] <aprilhare> hyphenation/spelling etc.?
[00:43] <PhoenixP3K> ok trying to completely uninstall Ooo3 then re-installing (just re-install failed to make it work)
[00:43] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> reboots after force check... nvidia splash... Start-up...Starting a bunch of stuff...login screen...all users there...logging in...seeing speed gain...looks coool
[00:43] <aprilhare> histo, still broken
[00:43] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> I think we did it!
[00:43] <chupy> cdm10: http://paste.ubuntu.com/76980/
[00:43] <Estagus_> I try to alter ubuntu install dvd. I preinstall ssh server. at setup of ssh it generates keys, so as I think this keys will be copied to resulting system whis is bad as I think
[00:43] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> Thanks!  Cloned a drive and repartitioned.  Didn't miss a beat
[00:43] <histo> aprilhare, reinstall the openoffice packages that are causing problems.  The aptitude clean command cleared out the old packages so you can download the new ones.
[00:44] <Estagus_> any workaround?
[00:44] <magicmax> if anyone has time to help me out with my wireless connection problem that would be great
[00:44] <cdm10> chupy: alright, run this: "sudo aptitude install python-gnome2-extras"
[00:44] <aprilhare> brb need to awaken numb limbs
[00:44] <lexvegas> !repeat
[00:45] <lexvegas> !install
[00:45] <histo> Who ever was looking for how to launch on different workspaces check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=483701
[00:45] <cdm10> lexvegas: can you leave the bot alone? it just fills the channel up with unnecessary traffic... if you want to use the bot yourself, you can just pm it (/msg ubottu whatever)
[00:45] <histo> !anyone | magic_ninja
[00:46] <histo> !botabuse > lexvegas
[00:46] <chupy> cdm10: thanks it works
[00:46] <cdm10> chupy: no problem
[00:46] <cdm10> chupy: it would have helped to tell me your system wasn't in English
[00:46] <lexvegas> lol sorry, i had never done that before, and i wasnt sure if it went to everyone or not
[00:46] <chupy> sorry
[00:47] <chupy> cdm10: the ubuntu-es people doesnt know to much
[00:48] <histo> cdm10, are the configs on foreign language machines in english?
[00:48] <sm0k3d> Is there some drivers i need to install to get an Epson Stylus cx7400 running on Ubuntu 8.10? My Scanner Utility program is not pickin up the scanner.
[00:48] <chupy> histo: no in your natal idiom :)
[00:48] <magicmax>  hi guys, im fairly new to linux, and ive installed Ubuntu on my new netbook (Acer Aspire One) it works great besides one problem. I cant seem to be able to connect to any wireless networks, including the one in my home, which i know is working...
[00:48] <Fezzler1> zsquareplusc>> Thanks dude
[00:48] <cdm10> chupy: idioma = language
[00:48] <cdm10> histo: well, I was looking for the word "State" in an output from aptitude, when it was Estado
[00:49] <computer> why cant i get this to work? deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe . it fails to make connection...
[00:49] <Fezzler1> So, I have to unmount a /dev/hdX before I can resize the partitons
[00:50] <PhoenixP3K> got Ooo3 working, but now it looks weird... like the theme doesn't match it anymore
[00:50] <chemmmy> any help with ircd config files ?
[00:50] <computer> i have added deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe to sources.list but dont work why?
[00:50] <Fezzler1> If I have a 200gig HD split in two Partitons A & B.  Can I move all files on B to A and then delete partiton B if I want one big drive?
[00:50] <sm0k3d> is there something in repositories i need to activate to get my scanner working? the device isnt being found at the moment
[00:51] <alexbobp> How can I get updates to a non-Internet-connected computer?
[00:51] <alexbobp> I have flash drives and CDs.
[00:51] <aprilhare> PhoenixP3K, how? :)
[00:51] <magicmax> is there a way to just select from a list of available wireless networks on the fly, and just select the one u want to connect to? or do i manually have to set up a wireless connection?
[00:51] <aprilhare> sorry got distracted
[00:51] <histo> !offline | alexbobp
[00:51] <cdm10> Fezzler1: yep, if the files are small enough to fit on A as it is now. Also, I'd back up first if I were you.
[00:51] <alexbobp> Thanks histo
[00:51] <aprilhare> don't care about what it looks like per se as long as it works thats for me
[00:52] <bytefield> #
[00:52] <ConstantineXVI_> magicmax: click the networkmanager icon, pick one
[00:52] <histo> aprilhare, well did it work?
[00:53] <sm0k3d> anyone got any ideas why my scanner isnt being picked up in 8.10?
[00:53] <ConstantineXVI_> magicmax: it's probably the one by the clock with two displays and a ! sign
[00:53] <magicmax> const, thanks, where is that icon? ive been through many network places
[00:53] <sm0k3d> its pickin the printer up but not the scanner, it is one of those all in one jobs
[00:53] <histo> Fezzler, yes depends on the files you are moving though?  Is there an operating system there or just storage?
[00:54] <aprilhare> histo: not working atm - what was your last suggestion? - uninstalling, cleaning the cache then reinstalling?
[00:54] <magicmax> k ya i goto the WLAN tab
[00:54] <magicmax> i right click, edit connections?
[00:54] <histo> aprilhare, purging the packages that are causing you problems then using aptitudes clean and installing the packages again.
[00:54] <phrostbite> Hello all, I was wondering what is the linux alternative to dreamweaver. You know for editing php and html sites and things of that nature?
[00:54] <magicmax> i see "wireless connection1"
[00:55] <LF|Irssi> phrostbite: maybe NVU or BlueFish editor
[00:55] <histo> aprilhare, ex: sudo aptitude clean && sudo aptitude purg openoffice-core && sudo aptitude install openoffice-core     Substitude openoffice-core for whatever packages you are having issues with from the update. As i've said I had no problems with the update earlier.
[00:55] <LF|Irssi> of course they're not as robust as Dreamweaver though
[00:55] <histo> phrostbite, there is nvu and some others. You are looking for a wsiwyg editor.
[00:55] <Fezzler> See my issue? http://paste.ubuntu.com/76984/
[00:56] <phrostbite> Ok thank you.
[00:56] <aprilhare> hang on purging stuff
[00:56] <histo> phrostbite, you could ofcourse use dreamweaver in wine though.
[00:56] <phrostbite> I don't know how to use wine :(
[00:56] <ConstantineXVI_> magicmax: no, just left-click it
[00:56] <phrostbite> Is it hard?
[00:56] <bytefield> any gtk+ hacker here?
[00:56] <Static--> or crossover
[00:56] <magicmax> im not seeing a list of available networks anywhere here.... is it possible to install a 3rd party wireless network manager?
[00:56] <LF|Irssi> i didnt think dreamweaver worked in wine
[00:57] <histo> phrostbite, quantaplus is another one. You should be able to find a few if you search the forums for dreamweaver www.ubuntuforums.org
[00:57] <magicmax> left click does nothing...
[00:57] <bytefield> i have to access some "private" functions from gtk which are not exposed in gtk headers, is there any way to access them?
[00:57] <histo> LF|Irssi, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=7694
[00:57] <aprilhare> installing stuff histo be with you in a minute :)
[00:58] <phrostbite> I will for sure take a look at the forums. Thank you for your suggestions
[00:58] <usser> bytefield, if u have to do that chances are you're doing something wrong.
[00:58] <sm0k3d> can someone help me out here im trying to get the scanner on the 8.10 working and it is not being picked up, my printer is however the scanner/printer is an all in one job?
[00:58] <usser> bytefield, there's no way other than editing the gtk+ library sources making the functions public
[00:58] <bytefield> i have to get an image which each state of a widget
[00:59] <mib_a6d7nb> huh
[00:59] <ablyss> sm0k3d, what type of scanner/printer ?
[01:00] <bytefield> usser, for example _gtk_button_paint, i want to use it to paint button on different surface rather than a window
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[01:01] <magicmax> how can i get to my wireless network manager? like what im used to
[01:01] <magicmax> is seeing a list of available networks
[01:01] <Fezzler> I need to move all the files from one hdb5 to hdb1 so I can delete hdb2, hdb5, hdb6 (swap)
[01:01] <magicmax> and just picking one from a list.
[01:01] <tiredbones> I have a second hard drive that i would like to get some files off. I tried to create a mount point and then mount it. when i looked in /dev for hdb1 icould not find any hd*.. can someone point me to some newer doc for this operation?
[01:01] <usser> bytefield, i wouldn't know, never used gtk. sorry.
[01:02] <pckchem> magicmax: Click on the network manager applet in the upper right hand corner
[01:02] <Fezzler> I don't need a linux-swap on a second harddrive that has nothing but data, do I?
[01:02] <sm0k3d> ablyss: it is an epson stylus cx7400
[01:02] <magicmax> is that not possible on Ubuntu? i dont mind installing a 3rd party program if i have to
[01:02] <magicmax> left clicking that icon does nothing
[01:02] <magicmax> for me...
[01:02] <chrisbangs> chrisbangs
[01:02] <pckchem> Are you sure network's are availible?
[01:02] <bytefield> usser thanks
[01:03] <chrisbangs> http://www.telephonation.com/
[01:03] <magicmax> yes, im conected to it on my other notebook as i speak
[01:03] <histo> mag_mor, rightclick
[01:03] <magicmax> its my home network
[01:03] <histo> magic_ninja, right click or double click it.
[01:03] <mag_mor> hm?
[01:03] <histo> mag_mor, wrong user sry
[01:03] <mag_mor> kk
[01:03] <chrisbangs> Microsoft Responce Point and VoIP support and news is at http://www.telephonation.com/
[01:03] <pckchem> magicmax: Right click on it and make sure enable wireless is checked
[01:04] <histo> magicmax, right click or double click it.
[01:04] <aprilhare> works - sweet pustule of goodness! thanking ye
[01:04] <histo> !offtopic > chrisbangs
[01:04] <magicmax> double click does nothing, right click gives me the option of editing my connections, and Networking is checked on
[01:04] <histo> aprilhare, np
[01:04] <ablyss> sm0k3d, i'm using 8.04.1 so not sure what bugs may exist but my scanner worked after I d/l the driver from the scanners website
[01:04] <aprilhare> i can see what you mean PhoenixP3K it looks very steely
[01:04] <histo> magicmax, what kind of wireless card do you have.
[01:04] <Fezzler> Can I move files from one /dev/hdbx to another via command line?
[01:05] <histo> Fezzler, is it an operating system that you are trying to move or not?
[01:05] <magicmax> all i know is it does a,b,g
[01:05] <zsquareplusc> Fezzler: cp -ax src dst  recursively copies, keeping dates/permissions
[01:05] <magicmax> and if was working before on the last OS i had on here
[01:05] <Fezzler> histo: No.  Just files.
[01:05] <magicmax> it*
[01:05] <pckchem> magicmax: do you know how to use the terminal?
[01:05] <histo> magicmax, perhaps the drivers for your wifi card arent' installed. opena  terminal and type in lspci
[01:05] <Fezzler> zsquareplusc: I don't want to bother you anymore
[01:05] <magicmax> yes
[01:05] <histo> Fezzler, use the cp command
[01:06] <magicmax> well, i know how to bring it up heh
[01:06] <pckchem> magicmax: type "lspci>>~/Desktop/lspci.txt"
[01:06] <Fezzler> histo: Do I need to confirm which dev/hdbx is indeed mapped to as /home
[01:06] <histo> ?
[01:06] <histo> Fezzler, what are you trying to do what sort of data are you trying to copy? from where to where.
[01:06] <magicmax> its alt+F2 right?
[01:07] <pckchem> magicmax: It should create a text file on your desktop called lspci.txt
[01:07] <fiXXXerMet> My keypad doesn't work in gnome (it won't input numbers), though when logged into KDE, it works fine.  Any ideas?
[01:07] <magicmax> Could not open location 'file:///home/rigo/lspci%3E%3E~/Desktop/lspci.txt'
[01:07] <Fezzler> histo: I have a 200g hd that is partitioned into two 90+gig /media/disk.  I want one big drive
[01:08] <histo> Fezzler, okay do both 90gig partitions have data on them?
[01:08] <aprilhare> ok it works :) now all i need is a decent australian english dictionary - the one i downloaded can't handle place names like woolloomooloo or parramatta :)
[01:08] <pckchem> magicmax: Sorry should have put spaces. The command is "lspci >> ~/Desktop/lspci.txt"
[01:08] <Fezzler> histo: One of the /dev/hdbx (presumably hdb1) is mapped to my /home.  So I want to move the 6g of files on the hdb5 to hdb1 and then repartiton hdb1 to one large drive
[01:08] <Rentun> hey
[01:09] <Rentun> I'm kind of a noob
[01:09] <magicmax> ok it worked, files is up
[01:09] <Rentun> and having trouble mounting my extra hard drives
[01:09] <Fezzler> histo: Yes, both have a little data on them
[01:09] <Rentun> they don't show up in /dev
[01:09] <Rentun> but they show up in places
[01:09] <magicmax>  Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
[01:09] <Fezzler> histo: I think
[01:09] <DVA5912> ok why am I having such a hard time making a simple oval in gimp?
[01:09] <DVA5912> is there a tutorial on gimp
[01:09] <histo> Fezzler, well you wouldn't repartition just expand hdb1 which is yoru /home
[01:10] <histo> Fezzler, right.
[01:10] <magicmax> Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 02)
[01:10] <magicmax> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[01:10] <unsigned> ?
[01:10] <Fezzler> histo: You mean after I copy the data?
[01:10] <histo> Fezzler, yeah
[01:10] <pckchem> magicmax: One sec, let me see if those are supported
[01:10] <leirgulen> anyone know how to set up hotmail account in thunderbird? im using gOS 3.0...
[01:10] <histo> magicmax, its the atheros card
[01:11] <PhoenixP3K> aprilhare, well the basic function is there. Can't seem to adjust the theme though. I'll keep experimenting
[01:11] <pckchem> nm
[01:11] <magicmax> something wrong with atheros?
[01:11] <histo> magicmax, type in ifconfig or iwconfig and see if both cards are showing up.
[01:11] <Fezzler> histo: here is what I'm looking at http://paste.ubuntu.com/76984/
[01:11] <chrisbangs> I am testing my mapping sytem, please visit http://www.telephonation.com/
[01:11] <Fezzler> What do I use, "cat" to see in etc/fstab that /dev/hdb1 is indeed mapped to /home?
[01:12] <Comrade-Sergei> how do i send an email via command prompt
[01:12] <bazhang> http://madberry.org/2008/11/how-to-get-atheros-ar242x-to-work-on-810-intrepid-ibex/ magicmax
[01:12] <Fezzler> sudo cat /etc/fstab ???
[01:12] <magicmax> run that where histo?
[01:12] <histo> Fezzler, well create a folding on the /dev/sdb1 drive for the files
[01:12] <chrisbangs> I am testing my mapping sytem, please visit http://www.telephonation.com/ becuse it logs geo area.
[01:12] <histo> magicmax, in a terminal you should see two network cards and a loopback
[01:13] <histo> Fezzler, sorry folder not folding
[01:13] <magicmax> thx for link baz
[01:13] <sayers> My sound has ceased working, I went to sound options and set it as my speakers under media however flash sound does not work just native apps
[01:13] <dmulholland> hey, does anyone know how to change the colours of what gnome-terminal shows at the prompt? (i.e. how to colour what it shows for username@host:location$)
[01:13] <Fezzler> histo: I'm having trouble in nautilus even figuring which one is sdb1, sdb5
[01:13] <magicmax> srry im not getting anything with either command in terminal histo
[01:13] <histo> Fezzler, paste the results of sudo fdisk -l   and df -h
[01:14] <yell0w> erhh guys is there a way to read .prc files on the desktop ?
[01:14] <histo> magicmax, ifconfig      or iwconfig
[01:14] <sambagirl> is it better to keep the lid on the 1u server or keep it off?
[01:14] <pckchem> dmulholland: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Customize-the-Shell-Prompt-40033.shtml
[01:14] <histo> magicmax, either command should display something if not try putting  sudo infront.
[01:14] <histo> !wifi > magicmax
[01:15] <dmulholland> thanks again pckchem
[01:15] <musikgoat|main> sambagirl: do you have temp issues?  you'll need to keep the server clean if you plan to leave its lid off
[01:15] <pckchem> If you want to easily theme terminal, it is under the edit>profiles>edit>colors menues
[01:15] <arquebus> when I type sh in the console, is that the bourne shell or bash?
[01:16] <magicmax> hmm ok gimme a monent this guide looks good heh
[01:16] <Comrade-Sergei> how do i send an email via command prompt
[01:16] <sambagirl> musikgoat|main not that i am aware of. i will keep the top on then. thanks
[01:16] <Decepticon_> what is a good popular ncurses ftp client that can show download progress/speed?
[01:16] <fde> arquebus: uhh, neither... its the sh shell....
[01:16] <musikgoat|main> sambagirl: yes, for the better, i'm sure
[01:17] <usser> arquebus, its linked to dash on my machine
[01:17] <Fezzler> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/76988/
[01:17] <musikgoat|main> fde: sh is a symlink, most likely to the dash shell
[01:17] <usser> arquebus, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Almquist_shell
[01:17] <arquebus> fde- I think you must be mistaken, sh has to stand for something, there is no sh shell
[01:17] <Decepticon_> what is a good popular ncurses ftp client that can show download progress/speed?
[01:17] <innovate2000> any Intrepid AND Winbind gurus here?
[01:18] <tiredbones> how come there is no hda in /dev?
[01:18] <Itardis> test from craclberry... Anyone out there runnin ubuntu on a linksys nas 200?
[01:18] <histo> Fezzler, okay /dev/sdb1 is your /home /dev/sdb5 is /media/disk.  So from what I understand we want to backup /dev/sdb5 to your /home/somefolder  then remove the /dev/sdb5 partition and expand /dev/sdb1
[01:18] <fde> tiredbones: it moved to sda
[01:18] <aprilhare> bye
[01:18] <arquebus> usser: thats interesting, sh is dash
[01:18] <Decepticon_> what is a good popular ncurses ftp client that can show download progress/speed?
[01:18] <zsquareplusc> tiredbones: its sda. newer ubuntus map ata drives to sd too
[01:18] <a-stray-cat> hello, where'd the option to change the computer name go in 8.10?
[01:18] <usser> Decepticon, whats wrong with wget?
[01:18] <pckchem> Comrade-Sergei: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/sending-mail-with-attachment.html
[01:18] <Fezzler> histo: Yes!
[01:18] <a-stray-cat> it used to be in the network settings, but now i cant seem to find it :/
[01:19] <Fezzler> histo: exactly
[01:19] <Decepticon_> usser im on a cellphone with no abilitiy to paste urls into
[01:19] <histo> Fezzler, try rsync -av /media/disk /home/fezzler/somefolder
[01:19] <a-stray-cat> i tried using the hostname command and changing it in /etc/hosts, but it defaults back to what i had it set to originally :/
[01:19] <tiredbones> thks
[01:19] <Comrade-Sergei> pckchem, heh i was playing with that in the lab today
[01:19] <Comrade-Sergei> pckchem, i was just tinkering with postfix
[01:19] <histo> Fezzler, you have to chanage the command accordingly I don't know if your username is fezzler or if somefolder exists
[01:20] <Comrade-Sergei> pckchem, i was just hoping for something with a rd file to input server username etc.. and go
[01:20] <Decepticon_> usser: im on a cellphone... cant copy paste long urls... need to login with ftp and grab files with vlear visual cues
[01:20] <magicmax> when people say "run blah blah blah" do they mean in the ALT+F2 window place? just wanna make sure
[01:20] <a-stray-cat> no one D:
[01:20] <Fezzler> histo: underway
[01:20] <aurel42> Howdy
[01:20] <Decepticon_> usser: any ideas?
[01:20] <Fezzler> histo: "building list file...."
[01:21] <zsquareplusc> magicmax: most of the time they mean a terminal window. but it runs the same as alt-f2
[01:21] <Fezzler> histo: done...lots o erros
[01:21] <pckchem> a-stray-cat: http://www.funnestra.org/ubuntu/intrepid/#rename-computer
[01:21] <Fezzler> errors
[01:21] <froosch> a-stray-cat: try /etc/hostname??
[01:21] <a-stray-cat> ah
[01:21] <usser> Decepticon_, try ncftp
[01:21] <histo> Fezzler, what sort of errors?
[01:21] <a-stray-cat> thanks
[01:21] <zsquareplusc> magicmax: but alt-f2 runs and often closes the window. so it hard to see error messages.
[01:21] <Decepticon_> usser: ill try
[01:21] <Comrade-Sergei> pckchem,  how does it know what the smtp server i need to send through is?
[01:21] <tiredbones> if the ubuntu release took sda1, sda2 and sda5, what can i use to mount a extra hard drive?
[01:21] <innovate2000> any Intrepid AND Winbind gurus here?
[01:22] <Knysliux001> I'm trying to configure Sony Ericsson Z550i with wammu over bluetooth. What device should I use? /dev/mobile does not exist.
[01:22] <kitche> tiredbones: well sdaX is one drive
[01:22] <Fezzler> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/76989/
[01:22] <zsquareplusc> !terminal > magicmax
[01:22] <aurel42> When I use the vlc plugin to play media in Firefox, I cannot put my notebook in hibernate or standby anymore, it always complains that VLC is playing media, even when VLC is long finished. It think this started with 8.10, it also happens with Ubuntustudio. Anybody got a workaround or fix?
[01:22] <histo> Fezzler, whats your username on the computer?
[01:22] <pckchem> Comrade-Sergei: I haven't used it much myself, honestly. I'd imaging "man mutt" would give you some more information about configuration. Is there a reason you cannot use an X based application?
[01:23] <tiredbones> kitche,  these are tho only sda dev in /dev.
[01:23] <linxeh> mutt ftw
[01:23] <Coldhak> how do i tell how much ram i have from the shell?
[01:23] <Comrade-Sergei> pckchem, its a project im working on to email me when my desktops IP changes so i can still VPN in
[01:23] <linxeh> Coldhak: free -m
[01:23] <kitche> tiredbones: well if it's a 2nd hard drive it will most likely not be sda it would be sdb
[01:23] <JyZyXEL> how do you debug a problem that when there is a CD inside the CD drive my system won't boot
[01:23] <dewente> linux or unix ?
[01:23] <Coldhak> thanks, that's a helpful command :)
[01:23] <zsquareplusc> aurel42: hm. maybe the plugin inst unloaded properly. but vlc might have an option in the properties to prevent suspend/screensaver which you could switch off
[01:23] <JyZyXEL> it just hangs there
[01:23] <Havsalt> is ubuntulite 8.04 or 8.10?
[01:23] <pckchem> linxeh: If you know how to use mutt well can you help out Comrade-Sergei? I'm too hooked to gmail to know much about other mail clients.
[01:24] <Comrade-Sergei> pckchem, yea man mutt was good except there is no ~.muttrc like it says
[01:24] <linxeh> pckchem: I'd use gmail if it could store all my mail
[01:24] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: create one then :)
[01:24] <Comrade-Sergei> pckchem, im going to link it to my gmail account
[01:24] <pckchem> linxeh: Ouch!
[01:24] <oracleofmist> hey, I have ubuntu alternate installed on an sd card via unetbootin, how would I use that as repository in apt?
[01:24] <aurel42> zsquareplusc: good idea, lemme check
[01:24] <linxeh> pckchem: I'm a hoarder. I have (and refer back to quite often) every mail since 1997 :/
[01:24] <tiredbones> kitche,  I have no sdb or any other type in /dev.
[01:24] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, i do i need it to go through that smtp server though
[01:25] <innovate2000> any Intrepid AND Winbind gurus here?
[01:25] <oracleofmist> the default line for the cdrom is deb cdrom:[ubuntu 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_ - Release amd64 (20081029.1)]/ intrepid main restricted
[01:25] <oracleofmist> so do i just change cdrom to /dev/sdb1 or where it is mounted /media/sd  ?
[01:26] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: you cant make mutt use a specific mail server afaik, it relies on you running an MTA yourself and configuring that appropriately (ie as a smarthost). If you install exim from apt, and choose smarthost in the install wizard it should ask you for which smtp server to use
[01:26] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: but i might be wrong. I've not used it in some time
[01:26] <nintendork32> if ubuntu server is on sdb1 what would the grub configuration be for it? i have ubuntu server hardy
[01:26] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, INSTALL WIZARD?!?
[01:26] <oracleofmist> ?
[01:27] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: yes. it guides you through the installation of the package...
[01:27] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: like, a wizard ?
[01:27] <sambagirl> musikgoat|main  i put the lid back on
[01:27] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, heh mine never did it just flew right by
[01:27] <sambagirl> but i turned it off too.
[01:27] <aurel42> zsquareplusc: there's an option "suspend power management daemon" (I'm translating from German here)... I'll try to disable that, thanks.
[01:27] <sambagirl> it has 11 fans.
[01:27] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: what, installing exim?
[01:27] <thegeek> darn i got banned on offtopic
[01:27] <eighthour> where do i go for compiz help....???....
[01:27] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: or installing mutt ?
[01:27] <odoyle> Does anyone know a way to sync the iPod touch with linux?
[01:27] <Decepticon_> thanks usser ncftp works great for my phone
[01:27] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, then i tried sendmail which is exim but souped up and it was just as bad
[01:27] <musikgoat|main> sambagirl: ok, i didn't catch anything before you asked whether to have the lid on or off, was there more to the situation?
[01:28] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: sendmail most definitely is not "exim but souped up"
[01:28] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, mutt have me a little gui but nothing useful
[01:28] <thegeek> how do i get back on
[01:28] <sambagirl> no i was just wondering if there was any disadvantage or advantage one way or the other basicallly.
[01:28] <LjL> thegeek: this is NOT the channel to discuss that. ask in #ubuntu-ops
[01:28] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, w/e
[01:28] <bazhang> thegeek, /join #ubuntu-ops
[01:28] <linxeh> :)
[01:28] <oracleofmist> anyone?\
[01:29] <odoyle> @oracleofmist what was your question
[01:29] <oracleofmist> hey, I have ubuntu alternate installed on an sd card via unetbootin, how would I use that as repository in apt?
[01:29] <computer> some1 help http://pastebin.com/m534e24e3
[01:29] <bazhang> check aptoncd oracleofmist
[01:29] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh,  install with synaptic or apt-get in a terminal?
[01:29] <bazhang> !aptoncd | oracleofmist
[01:29] <oracleofmist> odoyle, looking in /usr/lib/apt/methods does not list an sd card
[01:29] <Havsalt> does anyone know if ubuntulite is based on 8.04 or 8.10?
[01:30] <bazhang> Havsalt, that is not supported here; ask their forums
[01:30] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: I only ever use the terminal, but if you've already installed it you'll need to purge the system of all configuration files I guess first
[01:30] <oracleofmist> ubottu, odoyle  and I am iin terminal I can't get the gui to come up because the initial kernel does not have my drivers
[01:30] <nintendork32> if ubuntu server is on sdb1 what would the grub configuration be for it?
[01:30] <Havsalt> bazhang, someone in here might know. mind if i ask?
[01:30] <bazhang> Havsalt, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:30] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, of course!
[01:31] <innovate2000> any Intrepid AND Winbind gurus here?
[01:31] <usser> !ask | innovate2000
[01:31] <sambagirl> haha you tell him ubottou
[01:31] <arquebus> I putting this line in the .pinerc file to set up pine to work with gmail inbox-path={imap.gmail.com/ssl/novalidate-cert/user=igpf@gmail.com}INBOX  would I replace user with my user name?
[01:32] <oracleofmist> anyone know how to use an sd card that has ubuntu installed on it via UnetBootin as a repo?
[01:33] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: ok, try dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config
[01:33] <tiredbones> how do i create sdb in /dev
[01:33] <salman> salman
[01:33] <DVA5912> Anyone know how to play Ultrastar?
[01:33] <Gnea> tiredbones: it should already be created when it's plugged in
[01:33] <Pretto> oracleofmist, you should try apt-cdrom command, I am just guessing
[01:34] <livingdaylight> ubunteros
[01:34] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, ah der why didnt i think of that!
[01:34] <livingdaylight> is there a wubi installer for kubuntu?
[01:34] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, what do i put for system mail name?
[01:34] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, the gmail login?
[01:34] <Gnea> livingdaylight: you can sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:34] <linxeh> did you select smarthost ?
[01:35] <livingdaylight> Comrade-Sergei : komrade how are you?
[01:35] <Gnea> livingdaylight: AFAIK, it's default gnome
[01:35] <histo> livingdaylight, try in #kubuntu
[01:35] <livingdaylight> Gnea yes default is gnome or Ubuntu; i'd like to try kubuntu though
[01:35] <Comrade-Sergei> livingdaylight, Fine you?
[01:35] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: read what the wizard says - it explains about what that option means...
[01:35] <Gnea> livingdaylight: just do the kubuntu-desktop thing, it's the same thing :)
[01:35] <livingdaylight> Comrade-Sergei: viva la muerte!
[01:35] <histo> !offline > oracleofmist
[01:36] <magicmax> "Go into the directory: cd compat*" im stuck as this part of the guide, how do i do that... when i enter "cd compat*" in terminal it says not such directory
[01:36] <Comrade-Sergei> livingdaylight, russian not hispanic bud
[01:36] <Decepticon_> is there some alternative to cp that shows a progress bar for cping large files
[01:36] <snarf> does ubuntu come with software that can stream music and movies to my ps3?
[01:37] <livingdaylight> Comrade-Sergei : Cuba and Russia we are sympatico in the great cause
[01:37] <tiredbones> Gnea, i have an old hard drive that I'm trying to mount and it does not get recognized when it's plugged in.
[01:37] <Decepticon_> snarf i did that before with mediatomb
[01:37] <Gnea> tiredbones: usb?
[01:37] <zsquareplusc> Decepticon_ must it be comman line? id say nautlius otherwise ;-)
[01:37] <bazhang> !offtopic | livingdaylight
[01:37] <Decepticon_> worked great
[01:37] <tiredbones> Gnea, no
[01:37] <Comrade-Sergei> heh, you enjoy living in cuba?
[01:37] <Decepticon_> zsquareplusc: sorry.. must be cli
[01:37] <linxeh> Decepticon_: there is, but I cant remember what it is :o
[01:37] <Gnea> tiredbones: are you sure it's spinning up then?
[01:38] <Gnea> tiredbones: and is your bios set to auto-find it?
[01:38] <snarf> Decepticon_ cool i'll check it out thanks
[01:38] <zsquareplusc> Decepticon_: cp -v or rsync with verbose option
[01:38] <Decepticon_> hm ok
[01:38] <Decepticon_> thanks
[01:38] <linxeh> Decepticon_: try pv file > newfile
[01:38] <oracleofmist> hmm apt-cdrom does not seem to do it
[01:38] <Gnea> tiredbones: i realize these may be somewhat silly questions, but i'd rather err on the side of rational, not irrational :)
[01:39] <tiredbones> Gnea, how do you check to see if it is spinning up?
[01:39] <Decepticon_> what is pv?
[01:39] <Decepticon_> man pv
[01:39] <linxeh> Decepticon_: like cat but it gives a progress bar on stderr
[01:39] <innovate2000> Thanks that was helpful. Intrepid error when trying "net ads join" - "failed to join domain: failed to find DC for domain". I have successfully joined several Hardy servers (eight) to Windows domain. Am now trying to add an additional server and am using Intrepid on a fresh install before I upgrade my other servers from Hardy to Intrepid. The commands "kinit", "klist" and "net ads info" as...
[01:39] <Decepticon_> oh nice
[01:39] <innovate2000> ...well as pinging the GC(PDC) all are successful. When I try to join the box to the AD network ("net ads join") the server returns "failed to join domain: failed to find DC for domain [MYDOMAIN]" - I have been trying to resolve this for several days and could use some help.
[01:39] <Decepticon_> thanks all
[01:39] <tiredbones> Gnea, do i have to boot up to look at the bios?
[01:39] <Gnea> tiredbones: when you turn the computer on without it, listen for all of the things that are turning on: the PSU, the CPU fan, any system fans, any other hard drives - then listen for the spin of THAT hard drive - does it have a little green light on it, perhaps?
[01:40] <Gnea> tiredbones: yah, during POST just press DEL or F2
[01:40] <tiredbones> Gnea, well let me reboot then.
[01:40] <Gnea> tiredbones: ok
[01:41] <sancho21> There is still problem with usb-creator in interpid. Is there usb-creator for hardy?
[01:41] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, this is way more of a pain in the ass than i thought it would be
[01:41] <zsquareplusc> sancho21: unetbootin
[01:41] <sancho21> !unetbootin
[01:41] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: but once you've set it up you'll forget about it. and anything that needs to send emails on your system will be able to.
[01:42] <sancho21> What is unetbootin?
[01:42] <livingdaylight> bazhang: are there any marxists in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[01:42] <Skky> What is the easiet way to configure Ubuntu/PHP to be able to use mail() on localhost?  Can I just use gmail as external smtp server?  Or do I have to install postfix?
[01:42] <sancho21> Is not official?
[01:42] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, im a CNT major and i dont even know what half this stuff is
[01:42] <sancho21> it's not an official package?
[01:42] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: mutt is like this because of the way email was supposed to work. mutt is a user agent - it isnt meant to send email, it is supposed to use an MTA to do that.
[01:42] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: what is CNT ?
[01:43] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, computer network technician
[01:43] <fiXXXerMet> My keypad doesn't work in gnome (it won't input numbers), though when logged into KDE, it works fine.  Any ideas?
[01:43] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: ouch
[01:43] <Comrade-Sergei> fiXXXerMet, num lock lulz
[01:43] <fiXXXerMet> yar yarz
[01:43] <zsquareplusc> fiXXXerMet: shift+ctrl+numlock ;-)
[01:43] <fiXXXerMet> Num lock is on.
[01:43] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: I read computer science and we were expected to know this stuff. 10+ years ago
[01:43] <bazhang> livingdaylight, please stop.
[01:43] <greghere> Do I have to have a swap file?
[01:44] <fiXXXerMet> sdfasdf
[01:44] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, ive been thinking of jumping ship to a programming degree
[01:44] <fiXXXerMet> enter key works
[01:44] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: you might have more luck with pine perhaps - it is what we all used at uni
[01:44] <fiXXXerMet> that is it
[01:44] <zsquareplusc> greghere: no. but it is usefule for hibernate and low ram machines
[01:44] <computer> some1 help http://pastebin.com/m534e24e3
[01:44] <sancho21> Will unetbootin persist my configurations?
[01:44] <Coldhak> is there a decent shell-based torrent client?
[01:44] <sancho21> or my files
[01:44] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: try apt-get install alpine
[01:44] <zsquareplusc> fiXXXerMet: shift+ctrl+numlock ;-) it probably the keyboard mouse that it is active
[01:44] <n8tuser> !install | sancho21
[01:45] <Fezzler1> histo>> hey
[01:45] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, yea i was gonna say pine says its obsolete
[01:45] <fiXXXerMet> zsquareplusc: That worked!
[01:45] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: alpine is the new one
[01:45] <greghere> I have four partitions on a 200 gb HDD so I cant make a swap file but I have 3 gb of ram.
[01:45] <sancho21> !automate
[01:45] <fiXXXerMet> What exactly what the problem though, zsquareplusc?
[01:45] <Fezzler1> histo>> still copying
[01:45] <bazhang> Coldhak, rtorrent
[01:45] <histo> Fezzler, k
[01:45] <histo> Fezzler1, k
[01:45] <Fezzler1> histo>> on second pc so we can communicate when I reboot
[01:45] <zsquareplusc> fiXXXerMet: press the keys again and press the keypad 4 for a longer time and watch the mouse pointer
[01:45] <n8tuser> greghere -> its easy to make a swap file, it is just a file and can co-exist with what you already have now
[01:46] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, will it send?
[01:46] <ubuntu> hi
[01:46] <fiXXXerMet> zsquareplusc: OH, got it.  Thanks!
[01:46] <Coldhak> bazhang, thanks
[01:46] <clinX> #ubuntu-es
[01:46] <greghere> I tried to make a swap file with what i have but it comes up as "unusable
[01:46] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: yep - and it has a menu system for setting up your mail servers etc.
[01:46] <greghere> "
[01:46] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: I'm seriously thinking of moving from thunderbird back to alpine actually
[01:46] <Comrade-Sergei> nice
[01:46] <GoSox> so what do you guys think of Ubuntu as the full time OS for a young person's first computer
[01:47] <linxeh> GoSox: several people at work have done that with their toddlers
[01:47] <GoSox> hahah
[01:47] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, how can you stand a separate email client online gmail rocks
[01:47] <linxeh> GoSox: edubuntu gets lots of praise
[01:47] <greghere> I cannot make the partition useable at all!
[01:47] <GoSox> ok not that young i'm thinking more like a middleschooler who just got a laptop but it has nothing but problems
[01:47] <n8tuser> greghere -> how did you create the file?
[01:47] <GoSox> linxeh: are you from #macosx?
[01:47] <linxeh> GoSox: yeah
[01:47] <GoSox> haha
[01:47] <linxeh> :)
[01:47] <GoSox> i'm banned
[01:47] <GoSox> yet again
[01:47] <linxeh> oops :/
[01:47] <GoSox> they ban me at night while i'm sleeping
[01:48] <linxeh> why ? :o
[01:48] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, ha im a certified mac tech!
[01:48] <GoSox> so i wake up and am banned
[01:48] <bazhang> !offtopic
[01:48] <greghere> n8tuser, useing the partition editor in Ubuntu "hardy"
[01:48] <GoSox> i can think of no MORE amusing way to get banned
[01:48] <LjL> !offtopic | gosox
[01:48] <GoSox> oops
[01:48] <magicmax> im having problems following this guide http://madberry.org/2008/11/how-to-get-atheros-ar242x-to-work-on-810-intrepid-ibex/ the link to download the driver seems to be broken
[01:48] <bazhang> take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:48] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: again, ouch :) I'm a research scientist. I'm expected to know / learn whatever I need to do my research :p
[01:48] <magicmax> the link in the command
[01:48] <n8tuser> greghere -> i said how you created a file? not a partition..
[01:49] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh,  honestly how often do oyu ever have to get into the terminal on a mac?
[01:49] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: but re:gmail - it's ok, but I dont like my mail being on their servers, and I dont like it being online. I use local mail, I spend large portions of the day offline etc.
[01:49] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, its almost always hardware
[01:49] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: I'm in it now
[01:49] <innovate2000> I have successfully joined several Hardy servers (eight) to Windows domain. Am now trying to add an additional server and am using Intrepid on a fresh install before I upgrade my other servers from Hardy to Intrepid. The commands "kinit", "klist" and "net ads info" as well as pinging the GC(PDC) all are successful. When I try to join the box to the AD network ("net ads join") the server...
[01:49] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: at work I dont have internet access on my computer, only the intranet, so gmail is useless there too.
[01:49] <innovate2000> ...returns "failed to join domain: failed to find DC for domain [MYDOMAIN]" - I have been trying to resolve this for several days and could use some help.
[01:49] <greghere> n8tuser, err... I used the partition editor to create the swap file? :)
[01:49] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, im quite the oposite my entire second "data" drive is shared
[01:49] <GoSox> do you guys know if VMWare has "VMware tools" for linux? or are they only for windows?
[01:50] <usser> GoSox, sure they do
[01:50] <Comrade-Sergei> and my wifi is open with a 22 dBi antenna on it
[01:50] <histo> !vmware > GoSox
[01:50] <n8tuser> greghere -> i though you said you didnt have room for it?
[01:50] <linxeh> GoSox: it has them for linux too afair
[01:50] <|MUSE|> I just installed ubuntu-server. What would I need to install to get a graphical application to run over ssh, like: ssh -X 10.10.10.10 psp.
[01:50] <GoSox> fyi i'm running Ubuntu IN VMware not running VMware in Ubuntu
[01:50] <linxeh> innovate2000: dns, hosts etc all configured correctly ?
[01:51] <linxeh> innovate2000: and /etc/nsswitch.conf and /etc/resolv.conf are consistent on all machines ?
[01:51] <greghere> I have 4 partitions already but i was still able to create a 1gb swap file. But it reported as "unuseable"
[01:51] <usser> |MUSE|, just openssh-server
[01:51] <zsquareplusc> |MUSE|: yes as you wrote.. what's the question? ;-)
[01:51] <fiXXXerMet> |MUSE|: If you have an x-application on the server (without X), you can ssh to the machine with the -x (or is it -X?) switch, and then just run the program on the command line
[01:51] <innovate2000> side note to GoSox - I use VirtualBox and a large client of mine uses VMWare - my servers run with far less issues than theirs
[01:51] <n8tuser> greghere -> post in pastebin your results of   sudo fdisk -l
[01:52] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, so dpkg-reconfigure alpine doesnt work
[01:52] <linxeh> GoSox: yeah - they definitely do vmware tools, but you need the "pay for" version to get them. or download a vm with ubuntu in that has them already
[01:52] <davi1> supposedly the hard drive cycle count issue was fixed with Intrepid .. but I can vouch that it is not fixed! :(
[01:52] <Skky> once I install postfix how do I reconfigure it?
[01:52] <usser> linxeh, what are u talking about???
[01:52] <GoSox> i'm just playing around though, and already have VMware on my mac for running Winsux
[01:52] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: apt-get install alpine. then run alpine and configure it with the menus
[01:52] <Skky> i dont see it in my applications menu
[01:52] <bobJR> ive got a question i just installed xubuntu and when i installed crossover games its not showing up in menu can anyone please tell me how to fix this please
[01:52] <usser> linxeh, vmware-server which is free has it
[01:52] <|MUSE|> ﻿fiXXXerMet: this application does not have a command-line. :/
[01:52] <linxeh> usser: probably out of my arse.
[01:53] <fiXXXerMet> |MUSE|: I mean, the command that is used to launch it.
[01:53] <n8tuser> |MUSE| -> your psp has to have an Xserver also
[01:53] <greghere> n8tuser, To do that i would need to have the O/S installed and the point of my asking about swap files was that i am in the process of installing :)
[01:53] <|MUSE|> ah, ok thanks ﻿usser|zsquareplusc﻿|fiXXXerMet!
[01:53] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, Ah MUCH better
[01:54] <n8tuser> greghere -> perhaps i should have asked before..what are you trying to do?
[01:54] <|MUSE|> ﻿n8tuser: heh, no it's the name of program.
[01:54] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, will it resolve dns? so i can put in a FQDN and it will take it?
[01:54] <linxeh> usser: it has been some time since I used vmware on linux. my apologies ofor getting that wrong
[01:54] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: if your machine is setup for dns correctly, sure
[01:54] <|MUSE|> personal system psomething :)
[01:54] <n8tuser> |MUSE| -> provide a better information
[01:55] <|MUSE|> ok, sorry
[01:55] <greghere> Install Ubuntu 8.04 on a hdd with windoze Xp on a seperate partition
[01:55] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, cool!
[01:55] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: http://www.washington.edu/alpine/tech-notes/config-notes.html
[01:55] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, so a research scientist doind what?
[01:55] <innovate2000> linxeh: thanks but yes - aside from using the same instructions that I used to set up teh Hardy servers I have referred to the config files of the other servers as I set this box up - like I said, I can "kinit" and "klist" fine. "net ads info" returns info expected (FYI server time offset=0) - but when I try to "net ads join" the error shows up.
[01:56] <Out_Cold> is there a kde channel?
[01:56] <histo> Out_Cold, #kubuntu
[01:56] <histo> Out_Cold, and #kde
[01:56] <Out_Cold> ty
[01:57] <innovate2000> linxeh: one thing I noticed though - when I try to ping domain.local - this fails (but box.domain.local pings fine) I've checked resolv.conf and hosts and all appears to be in order
[01:57] <magicmax> im having trouble getting my "Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)" to work on Ubuntu, been through that guide with no avail
[01:57] <greghere> n8tuser, 200GB Hdd divided into 4 partitions, 1 x NTFS for Windblows, 1 x Ext3 For Ubuntu "root" 1 x Ext 3 for /home, and 1 x NTFS for storage/backup :)
[01:57] <fevel> guys
[01:57] <fevel> I need to get my system going
[01:57] <n8tuser> greghere -> okay, now do you have the livecd to start the installation?
[01:58] <fevel> it gives segmentation fault error every time I try to open firefox
[01:58] <fevel> I tried installing epiphany but same thing
[01:58] <greghere> n8tuser, yes.
[01:58] <innovate2000> fevel: prob obvious q - tried reinstalling firefox?
[01:58] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, it worked in proof of theory!
[01:58] <meoblast001> hi
[01:58] <n8tuser> greghere -> boot from the livecd and start installing
[01:58] <meoblast001> ubuntus about to give me an alcer
[01:59] <greghere> n8tuser, Ok
[01:59] <meoblast001> whenever sdl or opengl goes fullscreen my cursor wont disapear
[01:59] <meoblast001> on any app
[01:59] <magicmax> whats with the different styles of Ubuntu like "hardy" and stuff? how are they diff? and how do i know which im on?
[01:59] <fevel> innovate2000: how? since when I try removing it  the system doesnt let me
[01:59] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, now can i use it like i originally wanted as part of a bash script?
[01:59] <meoblast001> it just gets stuck in the middle of the screen
[01:59] <Koganei> my login prompt shows Kubuntu, but I use Gnome. So now I can't shutdown directly from my account.
[01:59] <Koganei> How do I change it back?
[01:59] <zsquareplusc> !version | magicmax
[01:59] <greghere> n8tuser, At partitioning stage
[01:59] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: I missed that part. what on earth do you want to use it as part of a bash script for ?
[01:59] <innovate2000> fevel: sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox
[01:59] <fiXXXerMet> Koganei: You can select which session (gnome, kde, etc) at the login screen.
[02:00] <Koganei> fiXXXerMet: yeah, I can get into gnome fine. But, I can't shutdown directly. I have to logout and then shutdown
[02:00] <n8tuser> greghere -> what about?
[02:00] <fiXXXerMet> Koganei: Oh - heh, don't know.  Sorry.
[02:00] <fevel> innovate2000: DIDNT WORK FRIEND
[02:00] <Koganei> hehe okay, no worries
[02:00] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, im making a bash program to email me when ever my external ip changes so i can update my VPN program
[02:00] <Koganei> thanks for trying~
[02:00] <innovate2000> fevel: what error?
[02:01] <zsquareplusc> Koganei: in 8.10 its new. you use the fast user switch applet to shut down
[02:01] <meoblast001> any help?
[02:01] <fevel> innovate2000: Segmentation fault
[02:01] <magicmax> whats the diff between grity, feisty, hardy... what is it
[02:02] <zsquareplusc> magicmax: newer software
[02:02] <viator> whats the name of the network mangr app
[02:02] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: oh, lol. you dont want mutt or pine then. you should either set up exim properly, or look at something like this http://forums.macosxhints.com/archive/index.php/t-31807.html, or use soemthing like nail or blat
[02:02] <Code_Bleu> I just did a "chmod o-rx  -R /etc" and then realized that maybe i shouldnt have...i then ran "chmod o+rx -R /etc" and now i get "Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer"  What have i done? and what do i do to fix it?
[02:02] <viator> that shows how you are connected and allows you to change etc
[02:03] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, jeez that had such a good config though!!!
[02:03] <Comrade-Sergei> damn
[02:03] <Koganei> zsquareplusc: it's new? I used to be able to shutdown from the logout menu...
[02:03] <viator> !networkmanager
[02:03] <AllareRegistered> how can i get the output from a commadn in another language (english in my case) ?
[02:03] <zsquareplusc> Koganei: its in the release notes :-)
[02:03] <viator> is there anything better than network manager?
[02:04] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: maybe you can mke it do what you want, but its not the right solution. it should be trivial to write something in perl though using Net::SMTP or similar (as detailed on that link)
[02:04] <zsquareplusc> AllareRegistered: "LANG=C ls" "LANG=de ls"
[02:04] <Koganei> zsquareplusc: if I click on the Ubuntu menu and click quit, I have 'logout, switch user' etc. but no shutdown. I already have the fast user switch applet
[02:04] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, i CAN program perl though
[02:05] <magicmax> im trying to run this to fix my problem "sudo vi /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[02:05] <magicmax> and append,
[02:05] <magicmax> blacklist ath_pci
[02:05] <magicmax> blacklist ath_hal"
[02:05] <FloodBot2> magicmax: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:05] <Code_Bleu> I just did a "chmod o-rx  -R /etc" and then realized that maybe i shouldnt have...i then ran "chmod o+rx -R /etc" and now i get "Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer"  What have i done? and what do i do to fix it?
[02:05] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, but id rather not, i will give its ALOT better than awk but still
[02:05] <viator> usually when you ask about applications tons of ppl chime in hmmm
[02:05] <innovate2000> fevel: I just did a quick look with google and it seems that some are having seg fault issues - I don't know what to say except to possible reinstall ubuntu
[02:05] <zsquareplusc> Koganei: i have a system->shutdown menu point and the fast user witch applet shows all from logout to shutdown
[02:05] <magicmax> but i get this error sudo vi /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[02:05] <magicmax> and append,
[02:05] <magicmax> blacklist ath_pci
[02:05] <magicmax> blacklist ath_hal
[02:05] <FloodBot2> magicmax: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:05] <viator> so no one uses anything other than network manager??
[02:05] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: there is an example program on that page. nail looks quite nice though :)
[02:06] <n8tuser> viator -> command line
[02:06] <magicmax> srry
[02:06] <AllareRegistered> zsquareplusc, thanx
[02:06] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: (nail is replaced with heirloom-mailx apparently, but it does the same)
[02:06] <Koganei> zsquareplusc: I don't have system -> shutdown. I have the fast user switch applet, but it doesn't show Shutdown either
[02:06] <sancho21> Is it possible to install live cd into usb-connected harddrive?
[02:06] <viator> iptables
[02:07] <viator> etc ntetwrk
[02:07] <zsquareplusc> Koganei: are you not admin or are other users logged in graphically?
[02:07] <magicmax> is there a way to paste into terminal
[02:07] <Koganei> only user, I'm admin
[02:07] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, and im back to where i started if i start with mailx again
[02:07] <zsquareplusc> magicmax: midle mouse button
[02:07] <Koganei> I have shutdown under KDE
[02:07] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, thats what was suggested in this lab but i couldnt get it to work
[02:08] <magicmax> i dont think i have a middle mouse button
[02:08] <wos> can anyone tell me if when you allocate memory to a virtual box, it cannot be used by your computer when the box is on?
[02:08] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: I didnt say mailx. I said heirloom-mailx
[02:09] <Decepticon_> is there any reaosn a cp operation to a flashdrive is working slow?
[02:09] <pckchem> !terminal
[02:09] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: it can use smtp smarthosts, ie your gmail smtp server
[02:09] <xorlim> is ubuntu 8.10 as good as 8.04? I already upgraded, and I see minor changes but sometimes I have some problems of programs crashing (SIGSEGV/segf), but that happens only VERY rarely on only certain programs using libsdl (like supertux2 crashes always).
[02:09] <Decepticon_> maybe its using usb 1x speed?
[02:09] <Koganei> zsquareplusc: I'll just uninstall kde-desktop I guess
[02:09] <Decepticon_> any ideas
[02:09] <scribawf> !puff
[02:09] <wos> can anyone tell me if when you allocate memory to a virtual box, it cannot be used by your computer when the box is on?
[02:10] <wos> !can anyone tell me if when you allocate memory to a virtual box, it cannot be used by your computer when the box is on?
[02:10] <wos> thought the bot might know about that
[02:10] <viator> ok how about this one
[02:10] <xorlim> wos: try it. I haven't used virtual boxes ever.
[02:10] <zsquareplusc> wos: there is a FAQ / docs on virtualbox.org that cover that topic
[02:10] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, well it wants me to install sendmail again when i try to install just mail
[02:11] <viator> how do i add a network-manager icon/applet whatever to the panel
[02:11] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, better yet just walk me through sendmail configuration
[02:11] <nintendork32> how can i update grub to 2.0 from ubuntu?
[02:11] <innovate2000> linxeh: any idea why ping to domain.local would fail if resolve.conf has "search domain.local" and "nameserver 123.123.123.123" (not real IP) exist? I CAN ping box.domain.local fine (FYI - I've disabled Avahi - so the .local tld should not be an issue)
[02:12] <solid_liq> innovate2000: what happens when you type:   host domain.local      ?
[02:12] <unop> innovate2000, what is the machine's hostname?
[02:12] <zsquareplusc> innovate2000: the .local domain is handles by mDNS. and that is related to avahi
[02:13] <a-stray-cat> hullo, im having trouble compiling things, i installed build-essential, is there something else i need? (specifically, i'm getting memset not declared in this scope)
[02:13] <[TiZ]> Hi there. I made a script that does a few things and then rsyncs some folders to my iPod. It copied every single file. Will it take this long from now on? Is there any way I can cut down the process?
[02:13] <innovate2000> all, I have disabled Avahi so the .local tld (as well as mDNS) should not be impacting anything
[02:14] <unop> [TiZ], rsync only updates files in the destination if the source has changed
[02:14] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, exim errored out on uninstall and wont allow sendmail to install now
[02:14] <unop> [TiZ], meaning, the next time you run rsync - it will only copy over files that were changed (note, files includes directories too)
[02:15] <[TiZ]> unop: So next time, rsync will know? Excellent.
[02:15] <musikgoat|main> nintendork32: did you have a specific reason to update to grub 2?
[02:15] <CyberCod> what is the terminal command to bring up the network manager?
[02:15] <CyberCod> I cant find it in the menu anymore
[02:15] <unop> [TiZ], rsync doesn't 'know' - it finds out by comparing both directories and examining differences
[02:15] <a-stray-cat> anyone?
[02:16] <Decepticon_> is there any reaosn a cp operation to a flashdrive is working slow? maybe its restricted to usb 1x speeds? it is a old pc...
[02:16] <pckchem> CyberCod, nm-applet
[02:16] <dabud> hello to all
[02:16] <CyberCod> is that the applet by the clock?
[02:16] <koshari> ﻿i are trying to install drivers for a dvb-t card based on these instructions and get these errors ,  http://www.pastebin.com/m78e727bc
[02:16] <pckchem> CyberCod: Yes
[02:16] <nintendork32> muskigoat: yeah, to test it for bugs :D
[02:16] <[TiZ]> unop: The first time I ran rsync, most of my music was already there. Are you saying it takes 1h30m to compare about 7000 files and folders?
[02:17] <CyberCod> I'm talking someone through this, its not in front of me, how do I tell them to bring up the network config window?
[02:17] <nintendork32> musikgoat*
[02:17] <innovate2000> my nsswitch.conf line for "hosts"  just has "files dns" (like my other Hardy boxes)
[02:17] <musikgoat|main> nintendork32: if you have bugs in your bootloader, have fun troubleshooting it :-P  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=811948  seems to say its getting stable, but why mess with what works?  I'd just wait till its the default
[02:18] <unop> [TiZ], i'm not sure exactly what happened - but no, it should take no more than a couple of seconds to scan that many files
[02:18] <nintendork32> musikgoat|main, i have a backup plan: i have LILO on another hard drvie
[02:18] <pckchem> CyberCod, is there a reason they cannot use the mouse? Or see the applet?
[02:18] <nintendork32> so if it breaks, boot into linux anyway :D
[02:18] <innovate2000> solid_liq: when I enter "host domain.local" nothing happens
[02:18] <CyberCod> they can see it, they don't know what to click and I don't have ibex
[02:19] <unop> [TiZ], if you are copying to an ipod - you have to remember that music on the ipod is stored with a different file naming scheme - so it's possible your ipod has two copies of music now
[02:19] <pckchem> Tell them to right click and select "edit connections:
[02:19] <CyberCod> so if someone could kindly spell it out
[02:19] <CyberCod> it would be of immense help
[02:19] <[TiZ]> unop: First, thanks for your help. Second, I use rockbox. ;) Third, here's my rsync line, maybe one of the options is the culprit. rsync -t -v -r --progress --delete --modify-window=1 /media/Zangetsu/Music/ /media/TiZPod/Music/
[02:20] <nintendork32> musikgoat|main, how do i install the update?
[02:20] <unop> [TiZ], I don't remember the rsync options at the top of my head - there are just too many
[02:20] <pckchem> CyberCod, they can then see the config window for ethernet/wireless/vpn connections
[02:20] <CyberCod> pckchem: they can see all of that on an applet icon? gee they must have really high resolution
[02:21] <CyberCod> nevermind
[02:21] <CyberCod> google would be better than this
[02:21] <[TiZ]> unop: That's understandable. And in case you don't know what rockbox is, it's an alternative firmware for the iPod that allows me to browse the filesystem.
[02:21] <musikgoat|main> !file grub2
[02:21] <nintendork32> how can i update grub to 2.0 from ubuntu?
[02:21] <stopsineman> Hey everyone.
[02:21] <musikgoat|main> nintendork32: sudo apt-get install grub2
[02:22] <unop> [TiZ], i know what rockbox is - i tried to get it on my new ipod but apparently the firmware is locked on them
[02:22] <pckchem> CyberCod, I don't need the sarcasm
[02:22] <[TiZ]> unop: Ah, one of the 6th gens... or a newer nano. Sorry, man. :(
[02:22] <nintendork32> musikgoat|main, should i sudo apt-get remove grub first?
[02:22] <musikgoat|main> nintendork32: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubTwo
[02:23] <stopsineman> Why would I be getting `Cannot open display "(null)"` when attempting to access X11 apps via ssh over my LAN on my headless ubuntu server?
[02:23] <musikgoat|main> nintendork32: i'm checking around, i don't know
[02:23] <a-stray-cat> for the qt4 package, where do i set the default makespec?
[02:23] <unop> [TiZ], it's all good - i can't complain too much - I have all my music on my ipod and hardly ever update it, gtkpod is fine - it does a few things similar to rsync in terms of syncing stuff.
[02:23] <Irimi_Nage> hi, I've just installed vmware server and am trying to set a root password (unfortunately I believe you need to - at least the guides said I did) - the "sudo passwd root" command says it completed successfully but did not prompt for a new password
[02:23] <linxeh> innovate2000: anything in /etc/hosts that shouldnt be?
[02:24] <Irimi_Nage> does anyone know how to get this to work (or even better, set a different vmware user)
[02:24] <musikgoat|main> !info grub2
[02:24] <greenleaf> This may be a n00b question, but can anyone explain to me why an nfs share with read/write permissions that is mounted read/write only has read permissions?
[02:24] <unop> !root | Irimi_Nage,
[02:24] <[TiZ]> unop: That's cool. I'd be in the same boat as you, but I need the Album Artist tag for my esoteric music sorting scheme. :)
[02:25] <unop> [TiZ], i just press play :)
[02:25] <pckchem> greenleaf, are you saying you don't have write permissions?
[02:25] <[TiZ]> Hehe, whatever works, man! :D
[02:25] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, how do i tell mailx what smtp server to use?
[02:25] <Irimi_Nage> bot: that's nice, but not the point - I need either a way to set a passwd or a way to set a different vmware user
[02:25] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: which mailx ?
[02:25] <greenleaf> pckchem: looking again, it looks like I do in the root of the share, but not in other directories I've tried.  I couldn't even write files using sudo
[02:25] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, theres more than 1?
[02:26] <Comrade-Sergei> i just went sudo apt-get install mailx
[02:26] <unop> Irimi_Nage, the bot is telling you that you don't ever need to set a root password as sudo allows you to run commands as the superuser
[02:26] <lavacano201014> linxeh-\ Am I right in thinking a "mailx -v" will say which one?
[02:26] <unop> Irimi_Nage, meaning - a command prefixed with sudo effectively runs as root.
[02:26] <pckchem> greenleaf, I
[02:26] <Frijolie> any idea how to resize a window whose bottom is way beyond the bottom of your desktop window? sorry, stupid question
[02:27] <pckchem> greenleaf, (Sorry typo) Was the drive a windows drive?
[02:27] <Frijolie> minimizing doesn't work...
[02:27] <Frijolie> neither does hiding the taskbar at the bottom, it goes below that
[02:27] <unop> Frijolie, what button tho?
[02:27] <pckchem> Frijole, use alt+drag to move the window until you can see the corner
[02:27] <nintendork32> for updating to grub2 do i need to sudo apt-get remove grub first?
[02:27] <Frijolie> unop: huh?
[02:28] <greenleaf> pckchem: no, it's a Linux ext3 drive
[02:28] <mrbrdo> hi, i'm using colinux, updated to Intrepid now.. my prob. is, when it starts my apps are un-themed until i run 'xfce-setting-show', that app does something and after that my apps become themed.. anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[02:28] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, ?
[02:28] <unop> nintendork32, not necessary
[02:28] <Irimi_Nage> unop: that's not my problem. I understand sudo et al, the problem is getting either: a different vmware user - or a password on root
[02:28] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: how many more times. I told you to install heirloom-mailx. Yes. there are dozens of implementations of mailx
[02:28] <nintendork32> unop: what is the grub2 install command? grub2-install?
[02:29] <zsquareplusc> Frijolie: drag the window with alt-click until you have a had at the border or alternatively use the system menu (left top menu in the icon) and select resize
[02:29] <lavacano201014> Irimi_Nage-\ If you need a root password that badly, you can do "sudo passwd" - keep in mind that the Ubuntu sudo may not work anymore
[02:29] <pluto__> channel
[02:29] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: with heirloom you set the server in the mailrc file, or with the MAILRC variable - it comes with docs..
[02:29] <lavacano201014> Or work as before, anyway
[02:29] <unop> nintendork32, errm, you could just do -  sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub2  (and that should run the right script)
[02:29] <pckchem> greenleaf, ahh for some reason I thought you said ntfs. Sorry I don't know how to help you.
[02:29] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, sorry
[02:29] <mrbrdo> apps unthemed, after http://pastebin.ca/1267170 themed. problem?
[02:29] <Irimi_Nage> lavacano201014: tried that, "sudo passwd root" or "sudo passwd" under a root prompt doesn't actually work
[02:29] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: :)
[02:29] <nintendork32> unop, do i need to install grub2 first? or just run just that?
[02:30] <unop> nintendork32, but to answer your question - i think it might be   /usr/sbin/update-grub2
[02:30] <lavacano201014> Irimi_Nage-\ Under a root prompt, you don't need sudo
[02:30] <Frijolie> zsquareplusc: yeah I've tried the resize window from the file menu, that also doesnt work. it changes the mouse cursor but you cant resize the window unless you have access to the bottom right corner of the window you want to resize
[02:30] <greenleaf> pckchem: that's okay.  Easy to get the two confused in a busy chatroom
[02:30] <lavacano201014> Under a standard user account, sudo is needed
[02:30] <unop> nintendork32, yea, you need to install the grub2 package for it to work
[02:30] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: try this for osme docs - http://blog.fupps.com/2007/05/08/replace-mail-by-nail-heirloom-mailx/
[02:30] <Frijolie> zsquareplusc: i'll try alt+click, never heard of that one
[02:30] <Irimi_Nage> lavacano201014: sorry, "passwd" didn't work under a root prompt
[02:30] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, where did you get it
[02:30] <hvgotcodes> hey firefox has started operating really slow -- meaning it takes a long time for pages to load.  how do i fix this?
[02:30] <mrbrdo> apps unthemed, after http://pastebin.ca/1267170 themed. problem?
[02:30] <mrbrdo> anyone please
[02:30] <unop> Irimi_Nage, what are you aiming to do to vmware (or its user) via root ??
[02:30] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, its not in the repos
[02:30] <Irimi_Nage> unop: log in
[02:30] <lavacano201014> Irimi_Nage-\ Maybe I'm thinking of another command...
[02:31] <lavacano201014> I thought it was "passwd"
[02:31] <unop> Irimi_Nage, log in what, vmware?
[02:31] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/heirloom-mailx
[02:31] <Irimi_Nage> unop: yeah, to vmware
[02:31] <Irimi_Nage> I'll try a reinstall
[02:31] <Irimi_Nage> maybe I buggered something else up
[02:31] <pckchem> greenleaf, If I were to hazard a guess, I would check the permissions on the host computer to make sure you have access. Sometimes I screw up with shares and don't properly assign permissions.
[02:31] <led> ok I seem to be having issue with my install of ubuntu with enlightenment also known as opengeu is there a way to up grade to normal ubuntu?
[02:32] <unop> Irimi_Nage, I still don't understand why you need to be root to do that
[02:32] <yesitsme> hello. Is there a way to run and use SKype on 8.10?
[02:32] <zsquareplusc> led: apt-get install gnome-desktop
[02:32] <Frijolie> zsquareplusc: thanks that did the trick, it allowed me to move the window up far enough where I could get to the "Apply" button but still didn't allow me to resize the window to entirely fit on my desktop..
[02:32] <yesitsme> !skype
[02:32] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, ah im still running hardy
[02:32] <zsquareplusc> Frijolie: netbook user? ;-)
[02:32] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: what about "nail" ?
[02:33] <LoRdRapTuReZ> hi all
[02:33] <LoRdRapTuReZ> i need a help about ubuntu
[02:33] <led> couldnt find the package
[02:33] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, one thing at a time
[02:33] <pckchem> !question
[02:33] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, connection refused wtf? trying different server
[02:33] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: if not, you can install msmtp as per this page, and send mail with the normal mailx - http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?p=6014887
[02:34] <Frijolie> zsquareplusc: yeah, I'm on a laptop. Is this an Ubuntu, a Compiz, or a Virtualbox (it's on a window on a guest OS) issue?
[02:34] <mib_gr93s9> Ok well I want to connect to a remote server and via ssh and copy/sync their backup folder to mine. I can access the server via ssh on port 2222. The syntax I have been trying is rsync -avz -e ssh -p 2222 user@server.com:/remotedir /localdir
[02:34] <LoRdRapTuReZ> ! i having a display while installing unbuntu 8.04 server ? How to solve it
[02:34] <Frijolie> zsquareplusc: I've also had it happen on my Host (Intrepid) OS
[02:34] <zurn> i am having a problem with wifi after the updatemanager updates i did yesterday
[02:34] <mib_gr93s9> any clue what I need to do differently?
[02:34] <LoRdRapTuReZ> i having a display while installing unbuntu 8.04 server ? How to solve it
[02:34] <Scunizi> LoRdRapTuReZ: you mean a GUI?
[02:35] <zurn> is there a way to undo those updates?
[02:35] <zsquareplusc> Frijolie: you probably just have the wrong screen resolution. seems to happen with some driver/gfx card ocmbinations that the autodetetction fails
[02:35] <lavacano201014> Irimi_Nage-\ Ping
[02:35] <zurn> my network is timing out rather than working, im also having a 20% packet loss on ping tests...
[02:36] <Frijolie> zsquareplusc: yeah, as a matter of fact I do have the wrong screen resolution within my VMs. My video card isn't detected so I'm stuck on 800x600 on any guest OS
[02:36] <zsquareplusc> led: sorry, it is apt-get install ununtu-desktop
[02:36] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, there is no ~.mail.rc file again, even after running it
[02:36] <innovate2000> linxeh: /etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1 localhost      127.0.1.1 box.domain.local box             and below that is IPv6 stuff
[02:36] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: make one...
[02:36] <Frijolie> zsquareplusc: so it's a VirtualBox issue then..my host's resolution is set correctly 1280x800
[02:36] <viator> ok in network interfaces if i want to change from dhcp to static
[02:36] <lavacano201014> Comrade-Sergei-\ ~/.mailrc
[02:36] <linxeh> innovate2000: hm :/
[02:36] <hvgotcodes> when i use route it takes a long time to find the default destination -- is this related to firefox taking ridiculously long to load pages?
[02:37] <fresco20> hi, i've just installed the atomatical updates of OO3 and now it doesn't start anymore, has anyone experienced the same problem?
[02:37] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?p=6014887 has step by step instructions I think
[02:37] <viator> what should it be iface eth0 inet youriphere
[02:37] <linxeh> "
[02:37] <linxeh> USING MAIL + MSMTP TO SEND EMAILS FROM A TERMINAL PROMPT OR FROM A SCRIPT:"
[02:37] <lavacano201014> Say your username on your computer was "sergei", and you have default home folder stuff (you probably do). It's /home/sergei/.mailrc
[02:37] <viator> pr should it be static then ip
[02:37] <Irimi_Nage> unop: because that's how vmware works by default - I'm trying a reinstall to see if I can change the default behaviour
[02:37] <viator> or what
[02:37] <zurn> Frijolie: if you have a driver problem with virtualbox - then google generic video driver (id look it up for you but im having a problem w/ my browser)
[02:38] <lavacano201014> The . at the beginning makes it hidden, so you have to check a box in Nautilus to see it
[02:38] <Luke___> how do I enable my USB headset?
[02:38] <LoRdRapTuReZ> i was assemble a pc and its working fine on winxp, so i wanna install the unbuntu 8.04 server LTS, so when i reboot the pc its ask to install the ubuntu server, after i click it, few it goes to another page in blue but the i cant read it coz its all blur.... any solution for this???
[02:38] <innovate2000> linxeh: pinging domain.local results in "unknown host domain.local" - I think (my gut) that this is the root cause of my issue
[02:38] <pckchem> fresco20, I just tried it. Me too.
[02:38] <lavacano201014> Irimi_Nage-\ I dunno what to tell you, the command is "passwd"
[02:38] <linxeh> innovate2000: well, you know that AD domains arent DNS right ?
[02:38] <Cluber> I have an annoying bug. I can't see my taskbar (top or bottom) when I have firefox open. Whats up?
[02:38] <Luke___> !usb headset
[02:38] <linxeh> innovate2000: two completely different concepts with confusingly similar terminology
[02:38] <innovate2000> linxeh: I can however ping box.domain.local with positive results
[02:38] <lavacano201014> !headset
[02:38] <lavacano201014> Hmm, Batman
[02:38] <Tuari> how come shutdown now -r -f is not restarting my server?
[02:38] <pckchem> fresco20, hopefully they will update the ppa soon with a fix, I'll go investigate on the forums
[02:39] <Frijolie> zurn: yeah I know how to google, I have. All that's been suggested was to install Guest Additions (which I have done)
[02:39] <LoRdRapTuReZ> can anyone help me
[02:39] <Luke___> how do I enable my USB headset please?
[02:39] <crunchbang> im jesus christ
[02:39] <linxeh> Tuari: what did it say ?
[02:39] <fresco20> pckchem, thanks, so i'm not the only one :( using google docs now
[02:39] <crunchbang> i love linux
[02:39] <crunchbang> and i'm the christian god
[02:39] <pckchem> !patience LoRdRapTuReZ
[02:40] <Tuari> The system is going down for reboot NOW! but it never restarts
[02:40] <LoRdRapTuReZ> ok
[02:40] <crunchbang> is anyone getting my ims?
[02:40] <crunchbang> i can't tell cause i've never used xCHAT
[02:40] <linxeh> Tuari: what is in the logs
[02:40] <fresco20> crunchbang, sure, we can hear you
[02:40] <innovate2000> linxeh: I understand - but if the "net ads join" cannot see the domain (it throws "failed to join domain: failed to find DC for domain DOMAIN.LOCAL")
[02:40] <Frijolie> zurn: I do have the generic VESA driver installed but I'd like to get a better resolution
[02:40] <linxeh> crunchbang: yes
[02:40] <crunchbang> thank you, fresco
[02:40] <nintendork87> how do i upgrade from grub2?
[02:41] <nintendork87> i apt-got it
[02:41] <crunchbang> so is this mostly a support chat
[02:41] <linxeh> crunchbang: yes - and #ubuntu-offtopic is for other dicussions
[02:41] <lavacano201014> crunchbang-\ Yeah
[02:41] <crunchbang> is this an irc client? xChat?
[02:41] <lavacano201014> Tuari-\ I've always used "sudo telinit 6" for reboots
[02:41] <Tuari> ok dumb question which log would i ned to look into?
[02:41] <lavacano201014> crunchbang-\ Yep
[02:41] <Scunizi> Is there any experience out there with the nvidia 180 beta driver?
[02:41] <Luke___> how do I enable my USB headset please?
[02:41] <lavacano201014> crunchbang-\ More about IRC can be found here: http://www.irchelp.org
[02:42] <crunchbang> figureing out irc is SO hard
[02:42] <crunchbang> i've tried off and on for a coupel years
[02:42] <lavacano201014> Luke___-\ Check the Wiki and search the forums while you wait, maybe your answer is in there
[02:42] <crunchbang> know what i mean?
[02:42] <crunchbang> its the only way to chat, i know that, yahoo sucks blah blah blah
[02:42] <innovate2000> Luke: that is a fairly generic question - I might suggest looking at the permissions for USB and ensuring that you have access to it
[02:43] <Scunizi> crunchbang: not that hard.. it's easier with the right program.. forget pidgon and use xchat.. then every channel is associated with a server
[02:43] <Luke___> innovate2000, what?
[02:43] <Pretto> is ubuntu able to mount a ext4 partition as rw?
[02:43] <Luke___> how do I enable my Logitech USB headset please? It says when I choose it its unable to play
[02:43] <naught101> anyone know when kde4.2beta1 will be in the repos?
[02:44] <innovate2000> Luke: do you have access permission for USB devices?
[02:44] <naught101> sorry, that should be for #ubuntu+1
[02:44] <wos> will plug&play work on a windows guest on virtualbox anyone? i cant find it in the FAQ
[02:44] <Luke___> innovate2000, how I check access permission for USB devices?
[02:44] <innovate2000> Luke: do a google for it
[02:44] <nintendork87> how do i upgrade to grub2?
[02:44]  * LoRdRapTuReZ still waiting
[02:44] <Luke___> innovate2000, stop trolling pls and wasting my time
[02:45] <innovate2000> Luke: I'm not trying to be coy, I just don't remember the exact command(s) and I found it on google
[02:45] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, does that password field have to be in brackets?
[02:45] <Luke___> !troll innovate2000
[02:45] <Scunizi> wos: plug & play as in plugging in a usb device?
[02:45] <Luke___> innovate2000, ok thanks
[02:45] <lavacano201014> !troll | lavacano201014
[02:45] <innovate2000> Luke: I don't think that attitude is helpful
[02:45] <wos> yes Scunizi exactly
[02:45] <lavacano201014> It dunno about !troll...
[02:45] <nintendork87> !troll is Stop trolling please.
[02:45] <Luke___> innovate2000, ditto
[02:45] <innovate2000> Luke: oh - nevermind
[02:45] <lavacano201014> Actually no, let's do this...
[02:46] <nintendork87> !troll innovate2000
[02:46] <jamesish_> Ah, trolls. The colour of the online world.
[02:46] <nintendork87> !troll | innovate2000
[02:46] <nintendork87> !troll is <reply>Stop trolling please.
[02:46] <nintendork87> !troll | innovate2000
[02:46] <nintendork87> bah
[02:46] <lavacano201014> !troll is Trolling, or purposely attempting to make another user angry for a stupid reason, is frowned upon.
[02:46] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: man msmtp suggests not
[02:46] <wos> !american spelling | jamesish_
[02:46] <gumpwea> =/ I suddenly can't play audio files but I can hear audio from flash content in firefox
[02:46] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, thanks
[02:46] <jamesish_> Thank you, wos.
[02:46] <lavacano201014> There, now we have to wait for the Ubuntu ops to set it up
[02:46] <Scunizi> wos: the answer is yes and no.. vbox has support for usb devices only if you download their free/non-free version and follow posted instructions on how to enable usb.. the version in the repos doesn't have usb support. There are several things to do to activate usb but that's best left for the online posts or #vbox.
[02:47] <nintendork87> bah
[02:47] <nintendork87> how do i upgrade to grub2?
[02:47] <lavacano201014> gumpwea-\ Maybe Firefox is hogging the sound card
[02:47] <gumpwea> hmmm
[02:47] <lavacano201014> nintendork32-\ "sudo apt-get install grub2" oughta do it
[02:47] <dabud> whaat is the protocol for being answered ?
[02:47] <linxeh> dabud: asking a smart question
[02:47] <jamesish_> dabud: ask a question that someone knows the answer to.
[02:47] <histo> dabud, what do you mean?
[02:47] <nintendork87> lavacano201014: that installs the package. ;) what do i do after that
[02:47] <lavacano201014> dabud-\ Ask your question, be patient, and don't be an idiot
[02:48] <gumpwea> lavacano201014:  that was it - never experienced THAT before. Thanks
[02:48] <wos> thanks a bunch Scunizi
[02:48] <Scunizi> wos: also once enabled it's.. "plug in usb device.. then choose to turn on that usb device in the vm"
[02:48] <dabud> what is the protocol for being answered
[02:48] <Fezzler1> histo>> Thanks.  We'll see
[02:48] <histo> lavacano201014, I don't think anyone attempts to be an idiot
[02:48] <grizlo42> how do you show the available wireless networks with network manager in intrepid?
[02:48] <Scunizi> wos: np
[02:48] <linxeh> dabud: dont repeat.
[02:48] <lavacano201014> gumpwea-\ Some sound architectures do that
[02:48] <riddlebox> has anyone used wvdial to tether a cellphone? my sprint service  does not use a username or password but wvdial wont work without it?
[02:48] <innovate2000> what are you guys talking about? This is supposed to be a support forum - and fairly often it is suggested that this be used after searching the 'Net. So I was saying that the answer is easy as I found it on google - but it seems that I am supposed to do the googling for you?!?
[02:48] <gumpwea> =/
[02:48] <lavacano201014> histo-\ Some people do. Just throwing that in there
[02:48] <dabud> sorry
[02:48] <innovate2000> and so I shall:
[02:48] <zurn> grizlo42: if ubuntu can see it - it will show up
[02:48]  * LoRdRapTuReZ still waiting
[02:48] <iShock> How do I update gfx driver in Xubuntu
[02:48] <linxeh> dabud: so ask a smart question :P
[02:48] <grizlo42> well i know there is a network
[02:49] <sudobash> wow i actually managed to boot Ubuntu VM in Ubuntu from the same Partition... So it is running both from the same location
[02:49] <grizlo42> and it used to show up
[02:49] <LoRdRapTuReZ> can anyone guide me ???
[02:49] <grizlo42> but i switched channels
[02:49] <lavacano201014> nintendork32-\ I think it's "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub2"
[02:49] <grizlo42> and it appeared at first
[02:49] <grizlo42> but then i restarted
[02:49] <grizlo42> and i don't see any
[02:49] <zsquareplusc> sudobash: sounds like you're shredding your file system ;-)
[02:49] <Scunizi> LoRdRapTuReZ: the server install has a text based installer.. there is no GUI.  if you got a blue screen then you might have a bad burn on the server cd.
[02:49] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, exim wont uninstall which is Fubaring some of this mailx stuff is it possible to force uninstall?
[02:49] <grizlo42> and there used to be others in the area, but they don't appear either
[02:49] <musikgoat|main> nintendork32: have you "man grub2" yet?
[02:49] <kattollikisd> somebody here is using Medibuntu for 8.04 on 8.04 ?
[02:49]  * Panarchy says hi
[02:50] <zarkk> how do i install .tar.gz program files after it's unzipped?
[02:50] <sudobash> i was trying to run the XP partition
[02:50] <LoRdRapTuReZ> huh
[02:50] <linxeh> LoRdRapTuReZ: ask a smart question.
[02:50]  * lavacano201014 waves uncontrollably at Panarchy 
[02:50] <musikgoat|main> nintendork32: thats the best place to start
[02:50] <LoRdRapTuReZ> ok
[02:50] <innovate2000> here is the solution I found (and used) for USB permissions : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=387644
[02:50] <zurn> zarkk did you read teh readme?
[02:50] <sudobash> yeah that could be harmful couldnt it?
[02:50] <zurn> the*
[02:50]  * gumpwea protests excessive emoting
[02:50] <zsquareplusc> sudobash: or do you mean not at the same time?
[02:50]  * Panarchy waves uncotrollables at lavacano201014
[02:50] <Fezzler1> histo>> One last?
[02:50] <dabud> how do i check to see if i am behind a firewall?
[02:50] <zarkk> where is that located?
[02:50] <linxeh> LoRdRapTuReZ: your question made no sense. read this http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[02:50] <sudobash> at the same time it booted up
[02:50] <histo> !ask | Fezzler1
[02:50]  * Panarchy waves uncotrollably at lavacano201014
[02:50]  * lavacano201014 knows what Panarchy is trying to do
[02:50] <sudobash> and got as far as safe graphics mode before i turned it off
[02:50] <Fezzler1> How do I delete that folder we created that looked like it had an old system in it?
[02:50] <musikgoat|main> dabud: do you have a router?
[02:51] <dabud> yes
[02:51] <Fezzler1> seems locked?
[02:51] <lavacano201014> Panarchy-\ Anywho, whatcha need?
[02:51]  * Panarchy lavacano201014 so do I!
[02:51] <musikgoat|main> dabud: then you are behind a firewall
[02:51] <Panarchy> lavacano
[02:51] <musikgoat|main> dabud: a router is a firewall to the internet
[02:51] <Pretto> any clue  about mount  ext4 as rw?
[02:51] <linxeh> musikgoat|main: I'm behind a router. I am not behind a firewall.
[02:51] <Panarchy> I thought that before editing the GNOME source code that I would first get some help
[02:51] <dabud> well yes  i know about that one
[02:51] <Panarchy> with saving my settings to my liveCD
[02:51] <musikgoat|main> linxeh: are you running nat?
[02:51] <dabud> i am talking about inside my ubuntu
[02:51] <linxeh> musikgoat|main: nope.
[02:51] <lavacano201014> Panarchy-\ You can't save them directly TO the LiveCD, but if you have a spare drive, you can save a settings IMAGE onto that
[02:52] <Rooty> Hi, I have a newly formatted hard drive (ext3). How do I mount it?
[02:52] <Panarchy> What I wish to do, is save my Firefox extensions, my WINE programs & What I added (and removed) from the panel
[02:52] <musikgoat|main> linxeh ok
[02:52] <Fezzler1> ls
[02:52] <Panarchy> Rooty, GUI or Command Line?
[02:52] <musikgoat|main> linxeh: i should clarify my question to a "home router running nat" but then that gets confusing :p
[02:52] <iShock> How do I update gfx driver in Xubuntu
[02:52] <linxeh> musikgoat|main: :P :)
[02:52] <nintendork87> how can i replace grub with grub2 in the MBR as i did not chainlink it from grub
[02:52] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, exim wont uninstall which is Fubaring some of this mailx stuff is it possible to force uninstall?
[02:53] <Rooty> Panarchy: either please
[02:53] <Panarchy> I thought that before editing the GNOME source code that I would first get some help with saving my settings (and cutomisations) to the liveCD
[02:53] <Panarchy> What I wish to do, is save my Firefox extensions, my WINE programs & What I added (and removed) from the panel
[02:53] <Panarchy> Rooty, well I remember that you can do it via gparted
[02:53] <Panarchy> (correct me if I'm wrong)
[02:53] <kattollikisd> somebody here is using Medibuntu for 8.04 on 8.04 ?
[02:53] <Rooty> Panarchy: Let me try!
[02:53] <Panarchy> Rooty, are you in linux now?
[02:53] <linxeh> musikgoat|main: I just hate how clear terminology gets completely bastardised by marketing people, and is then completely and utterly useless. engineers and scientists have terminology for a reason :/
[02:53] <Fezzler1> How do I remove a directory and all its content from the sudo command line?
[02:53] <lavacano201014> Rooty-\ Usually "sudo mount /dev/hdb /path/to/empty/folder" (assuming this is a second hard drive) does it
[02:53] <NotADJ> What package can I find the ndiswrapper kernel module in?
[02:53] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: what are you typing to uninstall ?
[02:53] <Panarchy> kattollikisd
[02:54] <Panarchy> sudo apt-get install medibuntu
[02:54] <Panarchy> (I think)
[02:54] <Rooty> lavacano201014: sorry, I don't know the hard drive /dev/location
[02:54] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, exim
[02:54] <lavacano201014> Rooty-\ How many hard drives do you have?
[02:54] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, sudo apt-get remove exim
[02:54] <Panarchy> Rooty: Are you using linux now?
[02:54] <lavacano201014> (Include CD ROM drives in this)
[02:54] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: try apt-get -f install
[02:54] <Rooty> lavacano201014: found it w/ gparted: /dev/sdb1
[02:54] <iShock> How do I update gfx driver in Xubuntu? Intel drivers, anyone?
[02:54] <aprilhare> hello: i installed openarena from getdeb.net and it doesn't seem to have any maps installed?
[02:54] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: then try removing it
[02:54] <Rooty> Panarchy: on Gutsy
[02:55] <dabud> i am trying figure out why my machines were running just fine with router and i reinstalled  ubuntu on one machine and now everything is crap.   Had good speeds on both computers b4  and now i can only connect one to router  cos the second one is too slow
[02:55] <aprilhare> wanted 0.8.1
[02:55] <lavacano201014> Oh, right, it's sdb# now
[02:55] <lavacano201014> Gotta get used to that
[02:55] <kattollikisd> Panarchy, jajaja... "you think" ? :P is not like that... And I didn't ask about that :P thanks
[02:55] <sudobash> hey yeah it looks like that might have caused some problems...
[02:55] <sudobash> everything is read only now
[02:55] <Rooty> lavacano201014: sudo mount /media/sdb1
[02:55] <Rooty> mount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/47BB-8118 does not exist
[02:55] <linxeh> I really need to get to bed. its 3am :(
[02:55] <NotADJ> What package can I find the ndiswrapper kernel module in?
[02:55] <chupy> i had a problem with opne synaptic but installing python-gnome2-extras and i also install yuuguu but dont open what can i do?
[02:55] <sudobash> EVERYTHING IS READ ONLY oh snap!
[02:56] <iShock> How do I update gfx driver in Xubuntu? Intel drivers, anyone?
[02:56] <iShock> How do I update gfx driver in Xubuntu? Intel drivers, anyone?
[02:56] <lavacano201014> Rooty-\ You need the /dev/sdb1 THEN the /media/sdb1
[02:56] <Panarchy> What I wish to do, is save my Firefox extensions, my WINE programs & What I added (and removed) from the panel, and I need to save these settings (and cutomisations) onto a custom LiveCD.
[02:56] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, thanks ill remember that, thats the first time thats ever happened to me in 5 years of linux
[02:56] <lavacano201014> But make the /media/sdb1 folder first
[02:56] <Panarchy> How would I go about doing it?
[02:56] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: did that fix it ?
[02:56] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, yea
[02:56] <linxeh> cool
[02:56] <NotADJ> !repeat > iShock
[02:56] <lavacano201014> Panarchy-\ Don't think it's possible
[02:56] <Panarchy> Really?
[02:56] <lavacano201014> But like I said, you can save a settings FILE on another hard drive that you aren't using
[02:56] <Fezzler1> Would sudo rmdir <directory> delete a directory and all its contents?
[02:56] <Rooty> lavacano201014: I have to add it to fstab then: mount: can't find /dev/sdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:56] <Panarchy> Like I was able to fix my desktop icons that way
[02:56] <Panarchy> and my wallpaper
[02:57] <zsquareplusc> Panarchy: you could back up your /home/... folder with all the hidden files. its all there (except apt-getted packages and system wide settings)
[02:57] <iShock> TDJACR, don't do that to me, ever.
[02:57] <sudobash> Read-only file system
[02:57] <sudobash> everything
[02:57] <sudobash> help
[02:57] <dabud> musicgoat|main   i understand that a router is a firewall to the internet and i have ports forwarded that i need
[02:57] <Panarchy> zsquareplusc
[02:57] <Panarchy> how would I
[02:57] <iShock> Fezzler1: sudo rm -rf dir
[02:57] <NotADJ> iShock: rawr :P
[02:57] <lavacano201014> Rooty-\ If you add BOTH the /dev/sdb1 AND the /media/sdb1 (in that order) it will work
[02:57] <Panarchy> then reincorporate it into the ISO?
[02:57] <zsquareplusc> !enter | Panarchy
[02:57] <Rooty> lavacano201014: Am trying now with line: /dev/sda2       /media/media     ext3    defaults        0       2
[02:57] <dabud> i am asking if anyone knows how to setup a static ip in ubuntu
[02:58] <lavacano201014> Rooty-\ In the command? Or in the /etc/fstab?
[02:58] <musikgoat|main> dabud: i was just answering that specific question,  are you looking for a software firewall for ubuntu
[02:58] <innovate2000> linxeh: Sorry I got wrapped up in trying to put out the flames (although I found it interesting that no one flamed lavacano and he/she said essentially what I did) - ANYWAY - regarding why winbind cannot see my GC - the command "net ads join" cannot see the domain (it throws "failed to join domain: failed to find DC for domain DOMAIN.LOCAL") - so that's why I thought understanding why...
[02:58] <musikgoat|main> ?
[02:58] <innovate2000> ...pinging domain.local did not work but pinging box.domain.local did work would help
[02:58] <musikgoat|main> dabud: oh
[02:58] <Rooty> lavacano201014: in fstab
[02:58] <iShock> TDJACR, I think I'll take my chances with Update Manager
[02:58] <me_> i blew my gdm on another system. Got graphics to start via startx how do i exit so I can try re-installing gdm?
[02:58] <zsquareplusc> Panarchy: with nautlius? just drag the folder to some place where you can store it. like a USB disk (ext3 formated). to activate the settings, copy the folder back
[02:58] <grizlo42> it isn't showing the available wireless networks
[02:58] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, oh wait no its still there
[02:58]  * Comrade-Sergei sighs
[02:58] <grizlo42> 5 pop up in windows
[02:58] <NotADJ> Sure
[02:58] <grizlo42> 0 in ubuntu
[02:58] <histo> Fezzler1, sudo rm -rf /home/<yourusername>/<somefolder>
[02:59] <AAAEMSU> http://pastie.org/324170 < --- I get this error
[02:59] <grizlo42> the driver is for sure available
[02:59] <zurn> grizlo42: have you rebooted?
[02:59] <grizlo42> cause ifconfig shows ath0
[02:59] <grizlo42> yes
[02:59] <dabud> no i am asking if there is a builtin software firewall that comes with ubuntu
[02:59] <lavacano201014> Rooty-\ Well, if the new HD is /dev/sdb, then you want the fstab to have a line that says "/dev/sdb1      /media/sdb1    ext3     defaults     0     2"
[02:59] <histo> Fezzler1, be carefull deleting stuff like that make sure you are deleting the right folder
[02:59] <Pretto> dabud, /etc/network/interfaces
[02:59] <Panarchy> zsquareplusc: I need it saved on the DVD. So when people put it into there comps, and boot up, they will get the same settings I have
[02:59] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: ok, try now reinstalling exim, and then removing. you might also be able to use the dpkg utils to fix it
[02:59] <Panarchy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=991857
[02:59] <grizlo42> zurn: thats what caused the problem, it was fine b4 hand
[02:59] <lavacano201014> Rooty-\ But in the /etc/fstab you can replace the /media/sdb1 with wherever you want it to automount
[02:59] <lavacano201014> OH
[02:59] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: try a google for the error message, I cant remember the exact command sorry :/
[02:59] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, option 1 is no good ,....trid it
[03:00] <lavacano201014> Rooty-\ Make the defaults bit "defaults,rw"
[03:00] <Pretto> dabud, google could point you to here http://codesnippets.joyent.com/posts/show/319
[03:00] <lavacano201014> Then you can write to it
[03:00] <linxeh> innovate2000: its been some time since I tried to do that. presumably you created a new entry in the active directory for the server ?
[03:00] <musikgoat|main> dabud: you are asking two questions
[03:00] <musikgoat|main> dabud: for the static IP http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963680
[03:00] <zsquareplusc> Panarchy: ow, thats a different topic. keywords are remaster, chroot.. i guess there are some guides around. maybe in the ubuntu wiki
[03:00] <nintendork45> how do i install grub2 ON the MBR?
[03:00] <Comrade-Sergei> !pastebin
[03:01] <chupy> i had a problem with opne synaptic but installing python-gnome2-extras and i also install yuuguu but dont open what can i do?
[03:01] <musikgoat|main> dabud: and for the firewall, there is an unconfigured open firewall installed called iptables
[03:01] <dabud> musikgoat  yes i have many  and they all seem to be related
[03:01] <AAAEMSU> http://pastie.org/324170 < --- I get this error
[03:01] <AAAEMSU> Any ideas?
[03:01] <musikgoat|main> !iptables | dabud
[03:01] <Rooty> lavacano201014 k, am doing so now
[03:01] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/77003/ thats what i get when i install according to that turorial
[03:01] <musikgoat|main> dabud: check out firestarter for the gui setup
[03:02] <twas> I'm about to do my first Ubuntu install
[03:02] <twas> It's for my girlfriend
[03:02] <paul__> toad3030
[03:02] <twas> Anyway, I don't have any blank CDs to burn the installation medium
[03:02] <nintendork45> how do i install grub2 ON the MBR?
[03:02] <twas> Is it possible for me to boot knoppix and install from there? If so, how?
[03:02] <FloodBot2> twas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:02] <dabud> ok   ty  musikgoat  pretto  and ubottu
[03:02] <musikgoat|main> dabud: yw
[03:02] <zurn> grizlo42: what does iwlist *interface* scanning
[03:02] <n8tuser> nintendork32 -> do you ever take the time to google for your questions?
[03:02] <paul__> sf
[03:02] <zurn> grizlo42: where *interface* is your wifi card,
[03:02] <nintendork45> dabud: ubottu is a bot :P
[03:02] <Panarchy> zsquareplus: I haven't found any
[03:03] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: have you run apt-get update recently ?
[03:03] <iShock> How do I update gfx driver in Xubuntu? Intel drivers, anyone?
[03:03] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: and dist-upgrade ?
[03:03] <Comrade-Sergei> no
[03:03] <Rooty> lavacano201014 Ubuntu has recognized it but I can't browse it with nautilus, it says unable to mount.
[03:03] <nintendork45> dabud: ubottu is a bot :P
[03:03] <nintendork45> how do i install grub2 ON the MBR?
[03:03] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, again im still running hardy
[03:03] <zurn> iShock: did you run restricted drivers thing ?
[03:03] <dabud> nintedo   yes i know  but he prolly likes to be ty'd now and then
[03:03] <lavacano201014> Rooty-\ That's kinda odd
[03:03] <iShock> zurn, haven't gotten one I don't think.
[03:03] <Panarchy> Oh, also I would like to save my GMT settings
[03:03] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: sure, but dist-upgrade just gets the latest packages for your release
[03:03] <AAAEMSU> http://pastie.org/324170 < --- I get this error, any ideas?
[03:03] <Rooty> lavacano201014 My system is: let me reboot
[03:03] <lavacano201014> Rooty-\ Do a "mount /dev/hdb1" and pastebin the results
[03:04] <Rooty> lavacano201014 ok
[03:04] <grizlo42> zurn: nothing was found :(
[03:04] <zurn> iShock: system / administration / hardware drivers
[03:04] <innovate2000> yes - the server entry exists on the GC (I did it to eliminate the question - usually never have to pre-enter as Win servers add auto if done by auth user) - i've replaced 8 win servers with Kubuntu (Hardy 8.04) and all went without a hitch - 8.10 introduces these issues
[03:04] <toad3030> does anybody use cedega or wine??
[03:04] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, cant till i fix exim it wont let me
[03:04] <iShock> zurn, *X*ubuntu
[03:04] <nintendork45> lavacano201014: try mount -t /dev/hdb1 <mount point>
[03:04] <zurn> grizlo42: then your card isnt seeing any networks, thats why network manager isnt showing any
[03:04] <nintendork45> how do i install grub2 ON the MBR?
[03:04] <lavacano201014> nintendork32-\ He's already got the device in his fstab, but Nautilus is saying something about "Unable to Mount"
[03:05] <innovate2000> linxeh: yes - the server entry exists on the GC (I did it to eliminate the question - usually never have to pre-enter as Win servers add auto if done by auth user) - i've replaced 8 win servers with Kubuntu (Hardy 8.04) and all went without a hitch - 8.10 introduces these issues
[03:05] <grizlo42> but in windows it found 5
[03:05] <Rooty> lavacano201014 [mntent]: line 22 in /etc/fstab is bad
[03:05] <NotADJ> What package can I find the ndiswrapper kernel module in?
[03:05] <nintendork45> how do i install grub2 ON the MBR?
[03:05] <zurn> grizlo42: i understand that
[03:05] <musikgoat|main> nintendork45: sudo update-grub?
[03:05] <grizlo42> zurn: then what is the possible cause of this
[03:06] <zurn> grizlo42: i am saying that there is a problem w/ your wireless causing it NOT to see any wireless
[03:06] <lavacano201014> Rooty-\ "nopaste /etc/fstab" and give me the result
[03:06] <lavacano201014> I think
[03:06] <lavacano201014> Hang on
[03:06] <zurn> grizlo42:  did you do a updatemanager yesterday?
[03:06] <musikgoat|main> nintendork45: you said grub2 was already installed right?
[03:06] <iShock> NotADJ: You're not allowed!
[03:06] <nintendork45> musikgoat|main: ok i skipped it from chainloading grub2. how can i rechainload it?
[03:06] <grizlo42> zurn: a few days ago
[03:06] <lavacano201014> Rooty-\ No, it's not nopaste...
[03:06] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: ok, what if you do apt-get remove exim4?
[03:06] <musikgoat|main> nintendork45: during the install of grub2?
[03:06] <dabud> ok this is getting to overwhelming.      i have a linksys befsx41  router and in the settings i can do a ping test  and it always says Sent 1 pkt  Rec'd packets 0.     Linksys does not support linux  and when i asked about the ping  they saaaid i should turn my firewall off
[03:06] <zurn> grizlo42: i wonder if you updated something that broke it...
[03:06] <nintendork45> musikgoat|main: yeah :'(
[03:06] <Rooty> lavacano201014 I found it, I had copied your quotation marks (dumb me). It is mounted
[03:06] <dabongo> Hey! Just installed linux like 2 hours ago....for the first time...and im looking for some basic tips for updates I need to do....and Im wondering how to run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' in a terminal. Not able to install ccsm...
[03:06] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, it errors out
[03:07] <nintendork45> musikgoat|main: tried removing and reinstalling to
[03:07] <nintendork45> :'(
[03:07] <musikgoat|main> sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub2
[03:07] <lavacano201014> Rooty-\ Heh, that happens sometimes
[03:07] <nintendork45> musikgoat|main: tried it
[03:07] <zurn> grizlo42: im having similar problems, i can get on my wifi network, but its laggy, like i try to load a webpage and it sits there for 5 minutes before it loads.
[03:07] <Rooty> lavacano201014 I have read/write now on this drive right?
[03:07] <lavacano201014> Rooty-\ I usually do dumb things like that on Monday mornings :-P
[03:07] <lavacano201014> Rooty-\ Did you put it in as "defaults,rw"?
[03:07] <grizlo42> zurn: actually apparently it has been a few weeks, apparently all its shown has been wine since then (this isn't my comp, its my sister's)
[03:07] <dabongo> Anyone here who can help a new linux user with some basic questions?
[03:07] <Rooty> lavacano201014 So, when compared to you, I have extended dumbness:P
[03:07] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: or apt-get remove mail-transport-agent
[03:08] <Rooty> lavacano201014 Yes I did:)D Thanks for your help!
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !find compizconfig-settings manager
[03:08] <Rooty> Panarchy Thanks for your help!
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !find compiz
[03:08] <lavacano201014> !find compizconfig-settings-manager | Jack_Sparrow
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> ty
[03:08] <lavacano201014> Heh, pipe doesn't work that way
[03:08] <boggdy> Hello guys. If anyone worked with LAMP, can you tell me where am I supposed to save the php files?
[03:09] <musikgoat|main> boggdy: /var/www  usually
[03:09] <linxeh> boggdy: wherever you tell apache to look for them
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Info compizconfig-setings-manager
[03:09] <iShock> How do I close Update Manager, it won't let me X it out while it's updating
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !Info compizconfig-setings-manager
[03:09] <boggdy> musikgoat|main: i don't have this folder
[03:09] <linxeh> boggdy: typically you reconfigure apache to look somewhere sensible for the files other than /var/www
[03:09] <lavacano201014> !find compizconfig-settings
[03:09] <grizlo42> iShock: why do you want to close it while it is updating?
[03:09] <boggdy> linxeh: how do i do that?
[03:10] <dabongo> how do I run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' in a terminal? Anyone who can asnwer me why I can't install ccsm?
[03:10] <iShock> grizlo42: So I can do it via CLI
[03:10] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, not installed
[03:10] <lavacano201014> Jack_Sparrow-\ You forgot a t :-P
[03:10] <nintendork45> musikgoat|main: any other ideas?
[03:10] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, this is REALLY irratating
[03:10] <iShock> !ino compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:10] <musikgoat|main> nintendork45: nope
[03:10] <iShock> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> lavacano201014 Which repo is it in?  that is all that guy needs..
[03:10] <endo602> someone know how to get spdif working for an xfi card on ibex?
[03:10] <musikgoat|main> nintendork45: sorry
[03:10] <grizlo42> iShock: its not recommended to do that
[03:10] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, it wont remove the "heavy" daemon
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> dabongo Enable the right source..
[03:11] <linxeh> boggdy: http://httpd.apache.org
[03:11] <lavacano201014> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:11] <dabongo> how?
[03:11] <Doctor-Steve> using ubuntu server here, want to know how to forward all traffic from my internal interface (eth0) to my internet interface (eth1) ?
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !sources
[03:11] <lavacano201014> Jack_Sparrow-\ Universe component
[03:11] <grizlo42> iShock: but if you must there is an applet called system monitor that allows you to end a certain process
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> lavacano201014 dabongo needs help with that
[03:11] <musikgoat|main> dabongo: open a terminal (apps->accessories) and put whats inside the quotes (sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:11] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: hmm, ok - what about if you try removing all of the packages it complains about on the same command ?
[03:12] <lavacano201014> dabongo-\ Turn on your "Universe" component and install it
[03:12] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, didnt know you could how does one go about doing tha?
[03:12] <lavacano201014> If you haven't touched the component settings, it should be on
[03:12] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: apt-get remove package package package package
[03:12] <Doctor-Steve> using ubuntu server here, want to know how to forward all traffic from my internal interface (eth0) to my internet interface (eth1) ?
[03:13] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, lol
[03:13] <Rooty> lavacano201014 I have no write permission on the drive. Any suggestions?
[03:13] <Panarchy> Rooty: You're welcome!
[03:13] <lavacano201014> Rooty-\ Hmm...
[03:14] <lavacano201014> Rooty-\ Unmount it, and try a "sudo chmod /dev/hdb 777" on it
[03:14] <lavacano201014> (777 IS read/write/execute for all, right?)
[03:14] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: you may also need to purge and update, upgrade, then install -f or something. sorry I cant remember, I thought someone else woudl have chipped in by now!
[03:15] <Rooty> lavacano201014 ok
[03:15] <zeno> my computer takes 5 minutes to get past the BIOS screen, 2 to load grub, and things still seem sluggish.  also fsck said there were errors in the root partition but i have no idea what to do in maitnence shell.  help!
[03:15] <lavacano201014> Rooty-\ Now try writing to it
[03:15] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, heres the error    http://pastebin.ca/1267186
[03:17] <Panarchy> What I wish to do, is save my Firefox extensions, my WINE programs & What I added (and removed) from the panel, and I need to save these settings (and cutomisations) onto a custom LiveCD?
[03:18] <Panarchy> What I wish to do, is save my Firefox extensions, my WINE programs & What I added (and removed) from the panel. I need to save these settings (and cutomisations) onto a custom LiveCD. How would I go about doing this?
[03:18] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: dpkg -r exim4-daemon-heavy ?
[03:18] <Rooty> lavacano201014 sudo chmod 777 /dev/sdb1  Still don't have permissions
[03:19] <lavacano201014> Hmm, I got nothin'.
[03:19] <Rooty> lavacano201014 wait.....
[03:19] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, they keep returning error status "3"
[03:19] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: ooh, this looks like there are bugs agsinst it :0
[03:20] <psusi> does anyone else have a problem with firefox changing font size every time you load a new page on ubuntuforums.org? the text gets bigger, then smaller every bloody time I load a new page
[03:21] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: this is mad, but it looks like you might have to reconfigure exim to get it running. once it is running you can remove / install other things :/
[03:21] <mykel_easterncom> anybody knows about vtiger
[03:21] <Rooty> lavacano201014 Still not working
[03:21] <lavacano201014> I still got nothin'.
[03:21] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: https://launchpad.net/bugs/274012 and others
[03:21] <kc8pxy> i have some jar's in need to make a webstart app work. where am i supposed to put them?
[03:21] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, lazy programmers....
[03:21] <lavacano201014> kc8pxy-\ Where does the webstart app look for them?
[03:22] <lavacano201014> Usually in the same directory as the app, methinks
[03:22] <lavacano201014> Or like in ./lib or ./jars or something]
[03:22] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: well, its not lazy programmers so much as not understanding how to fix it I think. consider the number of packages in the ubuntu repos too... :)
[03:22] <mavsman4457> I recently uninstalled pulseaudio and installed esound in order to get my mic working and then i had to adjust the mic settings in alsamixer and now my volume key doesn't control the volume, it only controls the mic playback level
[03:23] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, ugh pisses me off since exim has been nothing but a can of works
[03:23] <Comrade-Sergei> *worms
[03:24] <tritium> Comrade-Sergei: you're free to join the programmer ranks, and not be lazy
[03:24] <kc8pxy> lavacano201014: most of them seem to be in the jre directory(it was designed narrowly to work best on windows or MacOs) for some reason it fails to verify some jars when i simply run the webstart file on any linux distro i've found,  but TRIES really hard and mostly succeeds on wine.   but if i can wine it, i SHOULD be able to make the native vm run it.
[03:24] <Randall1> i think i messed up my xorg file, is there any way to repair it without an install CD
[03:24] <Panarchy> What I wish to do, is save my Firefox extensions, my WINE programs & What I added (and removed) from the panel. I need to save these settings (and cutomisations) onto a custom LiveCD. How would I go about doing this?
[03:24] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: indeed. but it isnt an exim probably probably, but a package maintainers fault :o
[03:25] <kc8pxy> lavacano201014:  there is A LOT of display corruption when i run it as a webstart undure a wine'd jre.
[03:25] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, jeez its screwing up this lab
[03:25] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: lab ?
[03:25] <grizlo42> iwlist scan doesn't find anything for my ath0 atheros 5xxx card
[03:25] <lavacano201014> kc8pxy-\ Possibly in the /usr/lib or /usr/share? I dunno
[03:25] <grizlo42> while windows does
[03:26] <grizlo42> what might be a possible cause
[03:26] <kc8pxy> lavacano201014:  how do i as apt/dpkg where the files for the jre got put?
[03:26] <linxeh> kc8pxy: /usr/lib (or lib64)/java or something
[03:27] <lavacano201014> kc8pxy-\ You know how in Windows all the program files are usually stored in C:\Program Files\___?
[03:27] <linxeh> kc8pxy: or /usr/lib/jvm/blah - something like that
[03:27] <lavacano201014> Well, Linux is a little more complicated, it uses two folders
[03:28] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, this is a project im doing for a customer, in a lab , we just call projects labs i guess by slang
[03:28] <lavacano201014> /usr/bin/____ is the command name, and /usr/share/____ holds most of the files for it
[03:28] <linxeh> lavacano201014: for java it uses far more than that "two" folders. just like windows uses more than 1 location
[03:28] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, reminisint of college
[03:28] <lavacano201014> In a couple of cases you'd find stuff /usr/lib/____
[03:29] <mike22> hi
[03:29] <lavacano201014> linxeh-\ I was about to cover /usr/lib, I don't think /usr/local gets used much (if at all) in Ubuntu, and I doubt it's in /dev or /boot
[03:29] <lavacano201014> :-P
[03:29] <lavacano201014> Wait...
[03:29]  * lavacano201014 facepalms
[03:29] <lavacano201014> I forgot about /etc
[03:29] <FloodBot2> lavacano201014: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:29] <me_> How do I restore gdm? sudo apt-get install gdm ubuntu-desktop gives me a "package gdm is not available"
[03:30] <linxeh> lavacano201014: /opt and /usr/local get used as much as third party software / custom builds are used :p
[03:30] <grizlo42> well
[03:30] <grizlo42> i guess no one is going to help me
[03:30] <lavacano201014> me_-\ Did you remove it completely or did you just switch to kdm/xdm?
[03:30] <cxo> How do i get a faster mirror for my updates?
[03:30] <Thirtysixway> grizlo42:  perhaps there aren't drivers for it?
[03:31] <grizlo42> atheros 5xxx?
[03:31] <grizlo42> supposedly there are
[03:31] <me_> I was trying to fix sound following web page instructions. Looks like removing alsa removed gdm
[03:31] <lavacano201014> me_-\ If all you did was switch it out, then change a config file to read /usr/sbin/gdm (I think)
[03:31] <lavacano201014> me_-\ Well, THAT'S not supposed to happen!
[03:31] <slestak> i have a bad intrepid iso im trying to repair with rsync.  the googled rsynccdimage hits im seeing around the community focus on beta testing.  does anyone know of an rsync server I can hit for intrepid i386 desktop iso?
[03:31] <Thirtysixway> cxo:  system > administration > software sources    go to Download From and select Other... and then click select best server
[03:32] <Panarchy> What I wish to do, is save my Firefox extensions, my WINE programs & What I added (and removed) from the panel. I need to save these settings (and cutomisations) onto a custom LiveCD. How would I go about doing this?
[03:32] <Randall1> so i think i messed up my xorg file and was wondering if there was a way to restore it (without an installation CD if possible)
[03:32] <lavacano201014> I've been seeing a lot of weird support requests lately, wide range of em too
[03:32] <jmazaredo> what application use port 28117?
[03:32] <cxo> Thirtysixway, thanks
[03:32] <me_> agree author of that page must be a ms agent in disguise
[03:32] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, so nothing i can do?
[03:33] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: I would get exim running with the dpkg-reconfigure thing from earlier I think, then remove
[03:33] <linxeh> based on that bug report
[03:34] <chetnick> hi, i am setting up my new tablet-pc with ubuntu, i have to edit xorg.conf, and i am suppose to have this section Section "ServerLayout" but i dont. Does that mean that xorg server is not installed?
[03:34] <linxeh> or see if anyone else here knows what thehell is going on
[03:34] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, oy
[03:34] <aprilhare> anyone play openarena? - I'm trying to install openarena 0.8.1 from getdeb (0.7.7 is in the repositories however is rather outdated) and the getdeb packages leave the game without any maps! Does anyone know how to fix openarena?
[03:34] <linxeh> oy ? :o
[03:34] <slestak> i have a bad intrepid iso im trying to repair with rsync.  the googled rsynccdimage hits im seeing around the community focus on beta testing.  does anyone know of an rsync server I can hit for intrepid i386 desktop iso?
[03:35] <cxo> ubuntu rocks!
[03:35] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, hah when i try it says it cant because its broken
[03:35] <linxeh> :o
[03:35] <aprilhare> cxo, does that mean it's good or its back in the dark ages still banging rocks together? :)
[03:35] <temppy> slestak: you could use torrent maybe
[03:35] <mavsman4457> my volume button stops controlling the master volume
[03:36] <ubuntu-810> I recently installed Ubuntu 8.10 (I had been using a previous version), and now my screen shakes whenever gnome starts up or I open "Screen Resolution".  Does anyone have a solution?
[03:36] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: what about apt-get -f remove x y z ?
[03:36] <lavacano201014> ubuntu-810-\ "shakes"?
[03:36] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, maybe let me try
[03:37] <lavacano201014> ubuntu-810-\ It's probably a side affect of GNOME checking out your monitor specs
[03:37] <ubuntu-810> @lavacano201014, yes, it's difficult to describe.  The display rapidly moves the image back and forth
[03:37] <lavacano201014> ubuntu-810-\ Are they little shakes, or do you get motion sickness off them?
[03:37] <dabud> where in ubuntu file system would i find (if any) information about my router
[03:37] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: and now I'm going to bed. it's 3:40am here, and I've got an 8:30 meeting. ugh.
[03:37] <cxo> aprilhare, its uncomfortably too easy to use :)
[03:37] <temppy> slestak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RsyncCdImage
[03:37] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: good luck :)
[03:37] <me_> this is the page that caused me too loose gdm http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1191847&postcount=1
[03:37] <aprilhare> cxo, dam straight.
[03:38] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, sorry its 2237 here
[03:38] <ubuntu-810> @lavacano201014, The entire bottom half of the screen becomes unusable for a couple seconds
[03:38] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, thanks anywaus
[03:38] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: damn ESTers
[03:38] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, heh
[03:38] <me_> Does ubuntu have something like a repair. Don't want to re-install from scratch
[03:38] <Hammi> hey oh
[03:39] <scunizi> me_, what do you want to "repair"
[03:39] <lavacano201014> ubuntu-810-\ Could be worse. I don't know about you, like maybe this might trigger epilepsy or something, but if it happened to me, I might do it on purpose just to watch it
[03:39] <me_> following some instruction to fix sound I lost GDM
[03:39] <Hammi> IS THERE A WAY WHERE I COULD INSTALL WOW ON UBUNTU?
[03:39] <ardchoille> me_: it's a little late now, but you might consider using something like PArtImage to clone your partitions, you can easily restore them later.
[03:39] <tritium> !caps | Hammi
[03:39] <lavacano201014> ubuntu-810-\ But I think it's a side affect of GNOME checking your monitor specs
[03:39] <scunizi> me_, so  you're left at the command prompt? with no gui?
[03:39] <pschulz01> Greetings.. anyone familiar with udev? I'm trying to attach a scsi (fiber) tape device and 8.10 is not going to same thing that 7.10 used to.
[03:39] <lavacano201014> Hammi-\ Yeah, all caps == shout, and Wine runs WoW
[03:40] <me_> scunizi yes. I can start gui with startx
[03:40] <aprilhare> ooooo what is WoW anyway?
[03:40] <HyperFireRush_> how about i uninstalled ubuntu with a dual boot with windows....and it crashed my whole system
[03:40] <ubuntu-810> @lavacano201014, Several times after that happened my screen froze up.  The mouse would move, but I could not click anything.  I thought it might be related, but it sounds like it would not be
[03:40] <JanekMZ21> symbolic link help: How can I create a shortcut on a desktop to an OpenOffice file?
[03:40] <lavacano201014> aprilhare-\ World of Warcraft
[03:40]  * aprilhare has recently emerged from a rock
[03:40] <aprilhare> aaahhh ic
[03:40] <dabud> i guess the ? was aanother dumb one
[03:40] <scunizi> me_, and when you reboot the gui doesn't automatically start?
[03:40] <lavacano201014> ubuntu-810-\ OK, maybe it's not a side affect of hardware checking...
[03:41] <Hammi> HELP
[03:41] <me_> scunizi, correct. I think I need to reinstall gdm but don't know how
[03:41] <lavacano201014> But if it's only doing this on login / Screen Resolution window opening...
[03:41] <Hammi> how can i install world of warcraft on ubuntu?
[03:41] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, i think i just got it
[03:41] <lavacano201014> Hammi-\ I just said Wine could run it...
[03:41] <Comrade-Sergei> lunz
[03:41] <ubuntu-810> @lavacano201014, Nut that was also after the computer came back up from a blank screen
[03:41] <ubuntu-810> @lavacano201014, *But
[03:41] <Hammi> where do i get wine?
[03:41] <lavacano201014> Hammi-\ sudo apt-get install wine
[03:41] <lavacano201014> In console
[03:41] <Hammi> thanks
[03:42] <lavacano201014> Th+3
[03:42] <lavacano201014> Stupid thing fell on my keyboard...
[03:42] <lavacano201014> Hammi-\ Then do "wine /media/cdrom/Install.exe" (or whatever WoW's setup executable's called)
[03:42] <scunizi> me_, the easiest way is "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" but more than likely you haven't really removed the gui.. it's just not starting on it's own since it works with startx.. I'll ask a more refined question to the channel for you .. sorry I don't have the answer myself.
[03:43] <UnknownUSSR> ﻿Still can't load grub ( error 17 which in this doesn't seem to mount because apparently the root is not valid )even after restoring and editing some files which had apparently been erased while booting to Windows .. maybe it's the config file that should be edited instead of the menus.lst but  I'm at a miss .. here's fdisk-l&&part of menu.lst that may be of help ,http://paste.ubuntu.com/76888/ ,please give a suggestion to resolve this issue
[03:43] <JanekMZ21> if any can help me with a symbolic link/shortcut you can joint #shortcut room
[03:43] <me_> Thanks scunizi I tried sudo apt-get... but tells me package not available.
[03:43] <scunizi> Can anyone help me_ reestablish automatic loading of the gui on boot.. currently he's dumped to a command prompt but it will start with "startx"
[03:43] <zytrate> Hey hey.  Hopefully simple question... I have files on an external networked drive that were owned by a user from a previous system.  Root can't chmod or chown them, and they show as being owned by "500" - how do I recover them?
[03:44] <JanekMZ21> i want to create a shortcut to a file, that will open in OpenOffice
[03:44] <amen> WoW very slow gaming for wow sorry i bad speak for english
[03:44] <Flyzoola> Yo guys, I'm having a problem with setting my resolution. When I start my PC it says I'm on low graphics mode and that I need to configure my monitor/card (since I just got a new one). I do it (as best I can) on that app, but when ubuntu loads, I can only get two resolutions... 800x600 being the largest on the GUI. How can I fix this so that I can get bigger resolutions?
[03:44] <amen> sorry wine
[03:44] <pckchem> !recoveringgrub UnknownUSSR
[03:44] <Steve[cug]> Lets say I have a user thats in multiple groups specified by the limits.conf file, is the last limit applied? smallest?
[03:44] <pckchem> !recoveringgrub
[03:44] <scunizi> me_, how's that for a question?  enough to the point?
[03:45] <chetnick> part of which package is xorgconfig ?
[03:45] <temppy> me_: you can install ubuntu-desktop?
[03:45] <temppy> me_: *cant?
[03:45] <UnknownUSSR> ﻿pckchem:Can't boot from a liveCD,only from a USB ( currently on slackware ),so can't sudo grub/grub
[03:45] <Flyzoola> what?
[03:45] <scunizi> temppy, me_ has desktop installed and works with startx .. it just doesn't start automatically from boot.
[03:45] <me_> temppy how? sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop tells me package not available
[03:46] <pckchem> UnknownUSSR: No CD Drive? Or LiveCD not working?
[03:46] <temppy> me_: how did this happen?  is this a fresh install?
[03:46] <zytrate> me_: Is GDM in the default runlevel?
[03:46] <zytrate> Or KDM, or whatever
[03:46] <Panarchy> Best channel on earth: #HackBuntu
[03:46] <me_> following instructions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1191847&postcount=1
[03:47] <Panarchy> What I wish to do, is save my Firefox extensions, my WINE programs & What I added (and removed) from the panel. I need to save these settings (and cutomisations) onto a custom LiveCD. How would I go about doing this?
[03:47] <me_> I think the sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils did it.
[03:47] <UnknownUSSR> ﻿pckchem:LiveCD isn't working,even the XP installations disk/Ubuntu liveCD etc.,I'm confused as to what I should do ...
[03:47] <Flyzoola> I'm having a problem with setting my resolution. When I start my PC it says I'm on low graphics mode and that I need to configure my monitor/card (since I just got a new one). I do it (as best I can) on that app, but when ubuntu loads, I can only get two resolutions... 800x600 being the largest on the GUI. How can I fix this so that I can get bigger resolutions?
[03:47] <pckchem> Unknown: Do you know how to edit your BIOS?
[03:47] <pckchem> UnknownUSSR: Do you know how to edit your BIOS?
[03:47] <chetnick> xorgconfig anybody? no?
[03:47] <pckchem> !patience
[03:48] <scunizi> me_, don't forget to address people with their nicks so your responses don't get lost in the noise.
[03:48] <me_> temppy I think the sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils did it.
[03:48] <temppy> me_: can you sudo apt-get update?
[03:48] <pckchem> UnknownUSSR: Better question. Describe to me what happens when you try to boot from a live CD
[03:49] <zytrate> So, any ideas on recovering ownership of these files?
[03:49] <me_> temppy sudo apt-get update seemed to run ok
[03:49]  * Panarchy says Hi
[03:49] <temppy> me_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit   ?
[03:49] <DavidCanarias> Hi
[03:50] <UnknownUSSR> ﻿pckchem:Oh I know how to set it to boot from a CD first ,it's not working ,when putting the Ubuntu live cd it just skips the cd and goes on to booting from the hd ( I had wubi setup the boot for the live CD )
[03:50] <Panarchy> What I wish to do, is save my Firefox extensions, my WINE programs & What I added (and removed) from the panel. I need to save these settings (and cutomisations) for my custom LiveCD. How would I go about doing this?
[03:50] <UnknownUSSR> best bet was chroot but sudo-install always returns some kind of error
[03:51] <me_> temppy sudo apt-get install pastebinit seemed to run ok
[03:51] <DavidCanarias> Is there any way I can memorize texts using keyboard? For example if I used a lot "this combination of text" very regularly instead of having to write it every time I could memorize it? Hope Ive explained clearly. Thks
[03:51] <akio> is there a trick to get permission to edit network connections in the NetworkManager/gnome-control-center applet?
[03:51] <temppy> me_: apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop | pastebinit
[03:52] <akio> mine doesn't have an unlock button....
[03:52] <UnknownUSSR> ﻿ akio:Go super-user ( root ) sudo -i
[03:52] <akio> but then the connection doesn't show up as normal user
[03:52] <lavacano201014> akio-\ gksu "systemsettings" should do it
[03:53] <DavidCanarias> Is there any way of memorizing a combination of words on one key please?
[03:53] <pckchem> UnknownUSSR: I have to ask, are you sure that the live CD works? Sometimes there are errors in the burning process
[03:54] <Panarchy> What I wish to do, is save my Firefox extensions, my WINE programs & What I added (and removed) from the panel. I need to save these settings (and cutomisations) for my custom LiveCD. How would I go about doing this?
[03:54] <ahtmly2k> hi all! is there a vm that can run osx leopard on ubuntu?
[03:54] <tritium> DavidCanarias: memorization is a mental task
[03:54] <cuog> ahtmly2k: try vmware?
[03:54] <Trinithis> What program woudl I use to record into a wav/mp3 the current sound my computer produces?
[03:54] <Thirtysixway> ahtmly2k, You'll be hardpressed to find even a PC that will run osx
[03:54] <cuog> audacity
[03:54] <cuog> Thirtysixway:
[03:54] <cuog> er sorry wrong person
[03:55] <Trinithis> k
[03:55] <UnknownUSSR> ﻿pckchem:yep,tried 3 different ones ,not only ubuntu live CDs,but Windows XP disks aswell,I'm currently chrooted on my ubuntu installation disk and trying to recover grub ,but sudo-install /dev/hda2 '/dev/hda2: Not found or not a block device.'
[03:55] <Frictor> I'm having trouble with Open Office in Ubuntu.  The menu bar and the menus that drop down from there show only dashes or underscores, rather than text.  Is there an easy fix for this?
[03:55] <me_> temppy sudo apt-cache fails complaining about parameters for paste. If I run apt-cache policy.. without the pipe I get 3 lines Installed[none] Candidate[none] version table:
[03:55] <cuog> Trinithis: in audacity theres an option along the lines of what you hear, choose that
[03:55] <akio> lavacano201014, UnknownUSSR: doesn't show up in nm-applet
[03:55] <Trinithis> ok ill give it a shot
[03:55] <Flyzoola> I'm having a problem with setting my resolution. When I start my PC it says I'm on low graphics mode and that I need to configure my monitor/card (since I just got a new one). I do it (as best I can) on that app, but when ubuntu loads, I can only get two resolutions... 800x600 being the largest on the GUI. How can I fix this so that I can get bigger resolutions?
[03:55] <trainpic> hey can anyone help with a lost partition table?
[03:55] <Panarchy> Flyzoola
[03:56] <wos> is there any particular reason why ubuntu thinks some kind of package manager is running when there are none visable?
[03:56] <Panarchy> install your correect driver
[03:56] <wos> visible
[03:56] <trainpic> I have ext3 and luks partitions
[03:56] <Panarchy> wos, is it sleeping?
[03:56] <lavacano201014> Panarchy-\ You've been asking that for an hour or more now, don't think it can be done...
[03:56] <lavacano201014> Panarchy-\ Sorry
[03:56] <cuog> Does anyone know how to enable remote desktop without using the GUI?
[03:56] <Panarchy> lavacano
[03:56] <Panarchy> nothing to lose by trying!
[03:56] <scunizi> wos, something is running.. synaptic? aptitude? apt-get?
[03:56] <Panarchy> and just posted it on another forum
[03:56] <lavacano201014> wos-\ /var/dpkg/lock
[03:56] <Flyzoola> Panarchy, how do I install the drivers? is there a site where I can get ubuntu drivers or what?
[03:56] <Panarchy> http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1512828
[03:56] <Panarchy> Flyzoola
[03:56] <temppy> me_: cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[03:56] <Panarchy> what graphics card do you have?
[03:57] <Panarchy> Oops, wrong link
[03:57] <Panarchy> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/135373-how-do-i-customise-live-session-user-account-pre-livecd-creation.html
[03:57] <lavacano201014> wos-\ Package managers make that file when they're running. Seems a package manager forgot to kill it
[03:57] <Panarchy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=991857
[03:57] <wos> neither aptitude nor apt-get are running
[03:57] <trainpic> anyone?
[03:57] <Flyzoola> Panarchy, ATI All-In-Wonder VE
[03:57] <lavacano201014> wos-\ "sudo rm -f /var/dpkg/lock"
[03:57] <Panarchy> sure
[03:57] <lavacano201014> Then you should be good
[03:57] <Panarchy> trainpic: sudo apt-get install testdisk
[03:57] <hmw_> trainpic what has happened?
[03:57] <me_> temppy that worked.
[03:57] <temppy> me_: can you post the link?
[03:58] <trainpic> the setup cmd in grub overwrote my partition table...
[03:58] <Panarchy> Flyzoola: Type that into google, but end it with 'deb' or 'ubuntu' (and if neither bring up anything) 'linux'
[03:58] <trainpic> what does testdisk do?
[03:58] <kc8pxy> lavacano201014:  mind helping me troubleshoot this?
[03:58] <psusi> trainpic: what do you mean?
[03:58] <tspike> for anyone familiar with telnetting into SMTP servers, how do you abort sending a message after issuing the DATA command and before '.' ?
[03:58] <me_> tempy http://pastebin.com/f1f757ce4 that is soo cool
[03:58] <hmw_> trainpic the partition TABLE or the mbr boot loader?
[03:58] <pckchem> unknownUSSR: That is very strange. Are you *SURE* your bios is configured correctly? I've never encountered a situation where a valid liveCD won't startup that wasn't the result of some sort of BIOS funniness.
[03:58] <lavacano201014> kc8pxy-\ Troubleshoot what now?
[03:58] <trainpic> partition table
[03:58] <kc8pxy> netx: Initialization Error: Could not initialize applet. (net.sourceforge.jnlp.LaunchException Fatal: Initialization Error: A fatal error occurred while trying to verify jars.)
[03:58] <Panarchy> trainpic, use a liveCD and type this into terminal: sudo apt-get install testdisk
[03:58] <trainpic> my partitions are no longer visible
[03:58] <trainpic> k
[03:58] <Panarchy> the run sudo testdisk
[03:58] <Panarchy> *then
[03:59] <kc8pxy> lavacano201014:  that :-(
[03:59] <hmw_> trainpic so youre not seeing any partitions on the drive anymore, also not in linux?
[03:59] <psusi> trainpic: fdisk -l says what?
[03:59] <wos> is there any particular reason why ubuntu thinks some kind of package manager is running when there are none visible?
[03:59] <trainpic> hmw_ exactly
[03:59] <UnknownUSSR> No takers ?
[03:59] <Panarchy> wos: Yes
[03:59] <lavacano201014> kc8pxy-\ What, exactly, though? I missed it
[03:59] <Panarchy> wos: Yes, if they are sleeping
[03:59] <trainpic> fdisk -l reports no partitions either
[03:59] <lavacano201014> wos-\ Because the file /var/dpkg/lock exists
[03:59] <wos> neither aptitude nor apt-get are running
[04:00] <temppy> !sources | me_
[04:00] <lavacano201014> wos-\ Delete that file, and Ubuntu won't complain about running package managers anymore
[04:00] <kc8pxy> lavacano201014: just after you asked what  just now, i posted it..
[04:00] <kc8pxy> lavacano201014: netx: Initialization Error: Could not initialize applet. (net.sourceforge.jnlp.LaunchException Fatal: Initialization Error: A fatal error occurred while trying to verify jars.)
[04:00] <temppy> me_: the last link
[04:00] <lavacano201014> kc8pxy-\ Hmm
[04:00] <DasEi> wos:it takes a minute till apt realizes/the sub-procs from another app are closed, watch with top
[04:00] <Skky> Can someone help me with disallowing certain FTP connections from specific IPs?
[04:00] <wos> lavacano201014, DELETE WHAT
[04:00] <hmw_> trainpic i am currently trying to revive my windows, too, so i cant go to look for a software for you. Try to find something like "Easy Recovery" (demo version is ok) and let it search for any partitions on the drive, then let it restore the table. i wish you luck!
[04:00] <lavacano201014> kc8pxy-\ The jars are screwy
[04:00] <Skky> I have this in my hosts.deny : "vsftpd : 192.168.10.120"
[04:00] <lavacano201014> wos-\ /var/dpkg/lock
[04:00] <lavacano201014> It's a file
[04:01] <lavacano201014> Delete it
[04:01] <Panarchy> trainpic: Have you installed TestDisk yet?
[04:01] <Panarchy> (free + open-source)
[04:01] <trainpic> yes
[04:01] <trainpic> im running it now
[04:01] <wos> thanks
[04:01] <lavacano201014> wos-\ No prob...
[04:01] <Panarchy> trainpic
[04:01] <trainpic> yes
[04:01] <Panarchy> when it's finished
[04:01] <trainpic> mhm
[04:01] <Fezzler1> Just installed a wireless card and can't figure out where to get started to get it going
[04:02] <Panarchy> and if the partition table looks right
[04:02] <Panarchy> press write to MBR
[04:02] <trainpic> k
[04:02] <lavacano201014> kc8pxy-\ So, like I was saying, the jar files are screwy it seems...
[04:02] <Fezzler1> D-Link AirPlus DWL-G510
[04:02] <DasEi> !wireless | Fezzler1
[04:02] <trainpic> will it be able to find luks partitions?
[04:02] <kc8pxy> lavacano201014:  how do i unscrew them? it works "fine" on the jre in wine.
[04:02] <lavacano201014> kc8pxy-\ Possibly they're using Windows termination codes.
[04:03] <vn> hi, mount.cifs is usually supposed to be in smbclient package right?  I don't have it even tho' smbclient is installer, how do I get it back?
[04:03] <lavacano201014> kc8pxy-\ If they run fine under Wine, I think we found your problem
[04:03] <me_> tempy have to study that to get my GDM back?
[04:03] <UnknownUSSR> pchkem:the disks are valid ,and the bios is set to boot from cd first/the booting order is set to cd first .The problem is when trying the boot to Windows XP ,GRUB hung at 'GRUB Loading stage2',so after 30 minutes I rebooted the machine ,and error 17 was being shown .Tryingto reinstall grub but can't because this usb I'm booting from is slackware and very limited ( doesn't have grub ) so I chrooted into the ubuntu mount but can't get sudo grub-i
[04:03] <UnknownUSSR> ..brb rebooting router
[04:03] <temppy> me_: um, yes, your sources are messed up
[04:03] <lavacano201014> kc8pxy-\ So, what we wanna do is find a program that will fix that
[04:03] <gluonman> I just got a new external hard drive from my friend (it's used). There's a folder on it that has two corrupted .doc files in it. I can't delete it because it gives me an input/ouput error. The files located inside the directory aren't visible in nautilus. How can I remove this directory and the files inside of it?
[04:04] <lavacano201014> !info tofrodos
[04:04] <lavacano201014> No, that's for text files...
[04:04] <Comrade-Sergei> anyone know what sendmail error 78 is?
[04:04] <lavacano201014> Jars are binary, I think
[04:04] <me_> temppy nothing that will set them right from install cd (Sorry, new at ubuntu)
[04:04] <scunizi> gluonman, sounds like you should start fresh anyway.. reformat it.
[04:05] <kc8pxy> lavacano201014:  IIRC, not..   they might have binary's in them, but they are zips, IIRC.
[04:05] <temppy> me_: sorry, are you using the livecd?
[04:05] <gluonman> scunizi, I just thought of that right before you mentioned it.
[04:05] <lavacano201014> kc8pxy-\ Zips are binary...
[04:05] <hmw_> i installed 7.10 and the grub menu contained the wrong command hd(1,x) - it is hd(0,x). I'd like to know, why grub got confused? it also made windows unbootable (already fixed)
[04:05] <hmw_> i am using one IDE and one SATA drive
[04:05] <me_> no, installed from an ISo image from ubunto site.
[04:05] <lavacano201014> They're also less compressed than .tar.bz2, but that's not the point...
[04:06] <Thirtysixway> are there any ubuntu cons?
[04:06] <me_> temppy no, installed from an ISo image from ubunto site.
[04:06] <temppy> me_: what are you running right now?
[04:06] <scunizi> hmw_, that happens with a mix of sata and ide drives .. didn't happen to me on ibex though..
[04:06] <kc8pxy> lavacano201014: i guess we have a different perspective of the definition "binary.   but ok.  i think of a binary as a machine-code executable :)
[04:06] <lavacano201014> Point is, even if archives (zips and jars in this case) contain only text files, they are binary files
[04:06] <DasEi> ﻿hmw_: could you paste your menu.lst and out from : sudo fdisk -l  ?
[04:07] <lavacano201014> kc8pxy-\ Binary is anything that isn't a plaintext document (HTML documents, .txt's, etc)
[04:07] <me_> temppy I have 2 Ubuntu installations both hardy heron. Running xchat on one and trying suggestions on the other
[04:07] <hmw_> !paste
[04:07] <lavacano201014> kc8pxy-\ Basically, anything you can open in less without getting a crapload of random gibberish is plaintext, and if you get a ton of random gibberish like ^[7BBag@, then it's binary
[04:07] <kc8pxy> lavacano201014:  let's agree to have different definitions(and understand the difference) and work past it.
[04:07] <scunizi> me_ why hardy and not ibex?  Ibex seemed to fix a lot of the sound issues.
[04:07] <UnknownUSSR> Sorry,if anyone had a suggestion to my problem please repeat
[04:08] <temppy> me_: so you cant run the software sources program?  you need to add main to your sources.list
[04:08] <lavacano201014> kc8pxy-\ Well, that's how FTP handles plaintext vs. binary, so my vote is to use that...
[04:08] <me_> I thought Ibex was betta while Hardy was stable
[04:08] <kc8pxy> lavacano201014:  either way, how do we fix the jar?
[04:08] <lavacano201014> Because most other programs do it that way too (less even warns me about reading binary files with it)
[04:09] <me_> tempy I thought Ibex was betta while Hardy was stable
[04:09] <me_> temppy I thought Ibex was betta while Hardy was stable
[04:09] <scunizi> me_ no.. hardy is LTS (long term support 3 yrs) Ibex is the latest stable release supported for 18 mths.
[04:09] <lavacano201014> kc8pxy-\ Find a program somewhere that will convert binary files (FTP definition) from Windows to Unix
[04:09] <Panarchy> trainpic: How did it go?
[04:09] <trainpic> still running
[04:09] <Skky> anyone know how to deny ftp from a certain ip address?
[04:09] <scottz> technically Ibex isn't a stable version.  8.10 is  =)
[04:09] <temppy> me_: you still need to add main to your repos
[04:09] <lavacano201014> kc8pxy-\ For that, we'll have to ask an old buddy of mine, Google...
[04:09] <trainpic> will it find luks partitions?
[04:09]  * lavacano201014 opens a browser on the other machine
[04:10] <scottz> I wish people would stop using the code name and start using the version for stable releases
[04:10] <Panarchy> trainpic: I forget how it works
[04:10] <hmw_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/77008/
[04:10] <Panarchy> But I think part of it doesn't care what partition scheme it's in
[04:10] <kc8pxy> lavacano201014: ......   this is a jnlp we're running.  most of the jar's are remote.
[04:10] <Panarchy> But it supports almost all filesystems
[04:10] <trainpic> no no
[04:10] <Panarchy> if I remember correctly
[04:10] <scunizi> scottz, :( My mother use to say.. if wishes were horses, beggers would ride :)
[04:10] <trainpic> k
[04:10] <Panarchy> the only one it doesn't support is zfs
[04:10] <hmw_> scunizi DasEi http://paste.ubuntu.com/77008/
[04:10] <Panarchy> (I think)
[04:10] <trainpic> luks is encrypted lvm
[04:11] <Panarchy> just keep the scan running
[04:11] <trainpic> wondering if the encryption might throw it off...
[04:11] <Panarchy> then paste the results
[04:11] <me_> temppy thanks! I will need to study repositories tomorrow. Imaing upgrading to ibex would not solve the problem?
[04:11] <trainpic> k
[04:11] <trainpic> 75% now
[04:11] <temppy> me_: can you open your sources.list?
[04:11] <Panarchy> k
[04:11] <hmw_> scunizi DasEi it didnt happen, when i installed 8.10, so i am a little bit confused about the reasons behind the mixup
[04:11] <lavacano201014> kc8pxy-\ Well, then I have no idea whatsoever
[04:11] <lavacano201014> Because I can't put it clearly enough to Google...
[04:11] <kc8pxy> lavacano201014:  thx for helping.
[04:12] <temppy> me_: can you just fix your sources first?  you may need to do that anyway
[04:12] <me_> temppy what text editor do I invoke from the command line?
[04:12] <Fezzler1> I've read the help files on wireless set up and the are over my head.  I have the PCI card install, I have driver from D-Link and RALINK
[04:12] <Fezzler1> I'm lost
[04:12] <Panarchy> What I wish to do, is save my Firefox extensions, my WINE programs & What I added (and removed) from the panel. I need to save these settings (and cutomisations) for my custom LiveCD. How would I go about doing this?
[04:12] <vn> hi, mount.cifs is usually supposed to be in smbclient package right?  I don't have it even tho' smbclient is installer, how do I get it back?
[04:12] <temppy> me_: gedit or nano
[04:12] <scunizi> hmw_, not really sure but in 8.10 and 8.04 the method of identifying HD's changed.. everything became referenced as sdX and used uuid's for identification.
[04:13] <temppy> me_: or, you could use the software sources program I originally suggested
[04:13] <WillyWonka389> hey my internal microphone does not work, any ideas?
[04:13] <WillyWonka389> 9> i tried using pulseaudio and made sure everything was unmuted
[04:13] <hmw_> scunizi DasE1 how would the command hd() in menu.lst look like, if you use these references? i supsect another entry for assigning the drive to the numbers?
[04:14] <me_> temppy  what software sources program? May have missed it
[04:14] <temppy> !sources | me_
[04:14] <DasE1> ﻿hmw_: could you paste your menu.lst and out from : sudo fdisk -l  ?  my crystal ball's batterys are empty
[04:14] <hmw_> DasE1 - http://paste.ubuntu.com/77008/
[04:15] <chetnick> why i dont have xorgconfig, which package should i install to use that?
[04:15] <temppy> me_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[04:15] <trainpic> Panarchy:
[04:15] <trainpic> it doesn;t look like my table at all, but here is what i have
[04:15] <trainpic>  1 * Linux                 6271   0  1  6271 254 63      16065
[04:15] <trainpic>  2 P Linux                 6756   0  1  6756 254 63      16065
[04:15] <scunizi> hmw_, grub is the only place hd is used as far as I know.  hd0 is sda, hd1 is sdb,  hd(0,1) is sda2, hd(1,0) is sdb1
[04:16] <me_> temppy that is an easy to follow link. WIll try it. Thanks !
[04:16] <dev_> Hi, I want to add command "metacity --replace" while booting. How can I do that?
[04:16] <dev_> I tried to add in rc.local buut no use  ;(
[04:16] <Panarchy> trainpic: Go deeper search
[04:16] <trainpic> doing that now
[04:16] <hmw_> scunizi hd0 is hda, if youre using only IDE, too. i know, the numbers are not an exact match for sure.
[04:16] <Panarchy> ok
[04:16] <Al2O3> where can I find the Ubuntu alternative CD for install
[04:16] <Panarchy> should take a while
[04:16] <trainpic> apparently it can find luks partitions tho
[04:16] <Panarchy> .clear
[04:16] <trainpic> at least from what it sead
[04:16] <Panarchy> great
[04:16] <trainpic> *said
[04:17] <scunizi> hmw_, except on 8.10.. hda isn't used as a reference
[04:17] <Fezzler1> I am running Hardy, just installed a D-Link G510 PCI wireless network card.  Downloaded drivers from D-Link.  Lost from here?
[04:17] <DasE1> ﻿hmw_: hd(0,2) for ubuntu
[04:17] <trainpic> btw thx for ur help
[04:17] <matiasdj87> Hi
[04:17] <WillyWonka389> hi
[04:17] <WillyWonka389> hows life
[04:18] <matiasdj87> i need help to the sound card
[04:18] <ahtmly2k> sorry i was away... but there are people able to install leopard on pc's especially intel-based, not to mention genuine tiger also came out for intel pc's wouldnt totally possible to run osx on vm in ubuntu? i got virtual box ose and virtual machine manager; which one's better? i find virtual box easier to use since the interface is really friendly, but still haven't tried to actually use it to install anything. however i'm totally blind on virtual mac
[04:18] <DasE1> ﻿hmw_: bte what is the first drive in your bios , the sata I guess ?
[04:18] <ahtmly2k> hine manager... any suggestions. i wanna run adobe cs4 without having to use it on windows...
[04:18] <hmw_> DasE1 this question is about finding out, what happened, i repaired my sys already. i would like to find out, why the 7.10 installer made the mixup
[04:18] <porter1> Are there any programs for ubuntu that can manage ti calculators?
[04:18] <trainpic> matias: what snd card is it?
[04:18] <matiasdj87> mi notebook is Compaq Presario F756la
[04:18] <crashsystems> anyone know what scim-launcher does?
[04:18] <trainpic> hm...
[04:18] <hmw_> DasE1 yes, i think so (not 100% sure) but i saw two boot partitions (one on each drive) so i assume it must be the sata
[04:18] <matiasdj87> mi problem is a microphone internal
[04:19] <trainpic> k
[04:19] <matiasdj87> Ubuntu 8.10
[04:19] <pckchem> ahtmly2k that is probably best for #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:19] <DasE1> ﻿hmw_:in the end of menu.lst you find a mapping, which is prbly done because you are not booting from the first(bios) disk in your pc
[04:19] <trainpic> what is wrong with the mic?
[04:19] <crashsystems> !scim-launcher
[04:19] <urthmover> I have connected an external USB drive hfsplus but it is insisting on being read-only how can I make it writable?
[04:19] <WillyWonka389> matiasdj,  i have the same problem
[04:19] <ahtmly2k> ok
[04:19] <hmw_> DasE1 sounds reasonable
[04:19] <hmw_> DasE1 i added the ide driver after xp was installe
[04:19] <urthmover> /dev/sdb1 /media/ExternalHD hfsplus ro,nosuid,nodev,noexec,umask=22,uid=0,gid=0,nls=utf8 0 0
[04:19] <hmw_> DasE1 "drive"
[04:20] <urthmover> that is my cat /proc/mounts
[04:20] <matiasdj87> know how to fix it?
[04:20] <Panarchy> What I wish to do, is save my Firefox extensions, my WINE programs & What I added (and removed) from the panel. I need to save these settings (and cutomisations) for my custom LiveCD. How would I go about doing this?
[04:20] <WillyWonka389> So does anyone know anything about sound cards or internal microphones.
[04:20] <WillyWonka389> Myself an Matiasdj89 seem to have a similar problem
[04:20] <Panarchy> I think mic's need drivers
[04:20] <DasE1> ﻿hmw_:so you got your answer, most prbly bios changed it to first disk (could have checked and correct it there at buil-in-time)
[04:20] <Panarchy> though not 100% sure
[04:20] <matiasdj87> I am from argentina..
[04:20] <Fezzler1> I'm pretty good with figuring stuff out but this wireless PCI from scratch has me lost.  Any one get me pointed on where to dtart?
[04:21] <DasE1> matiasdj87: !br
[04:21] <WillyWonka389> panrchy:internal mic's too?
[04:21] <DasE1> !br
[04:21] <me_> temppy set source to cd rom and did a reload. What next?
[04:21] <trainpic> try starting the mixer
[04:21] <temppy> me_: you need to add main
[04:21] <trainpic> see if there is a source setting.
[04:21] <scunizi> !wireless | Fezzler1 if it helps
[04:21] <Panarchy> WillWonker, dunno
[04:21] <WillyWonka389> trainpic: whats that like pulseAudio?
[04:21] <trainpic> nonono
[04:22] <Al2O3> can anyone point me to the alternative CD image, the main one I grabbed from ubuntu.org is not installing on a Toshiba A105 S2141
[04:22] <trainpic> volume control
[04:22] <Panarchy> Al203
[04:22] <DasE1> matiasdj87: sry, ar :
[04:22] <Panarchy> Try SuperUbuntu
[04:22] <DasE1> !ar
[04:22] <matiasdj87> I have tried many methods
[04:22] <hmw_> DasE1 didnt know, that bios can see such things... well... uhm... i still dont understand it fully, so i will go and ask google for detailed background info on bios boot stuff *sigh* or i just forget about it. thanks for your time, DasE1 scunizi!
[04:22] <dd_deargod> #nick name cwo_bat_country
[04:22] <Al2O3> thank yo, will do
[04:22] <scunizi> Al2O3, you want an alternate to the alternate?
[04:22] <Al2O3> just want an alternative to the main one.
[04:22] <DasE1> hmw_: it's easy to understand, pm me if you want
[04:22] <me_> temppy when I do a search for main there are several packages on the right. Add them all?
[04:23] <Relyc> when i try to set up my network between another ubuntu machine the os says permission denied
[04:23] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> Sorry, those pages are too confusing for me.  I have my wirless working with my laptop, so I just need to get the card in my Ubuntu box going
[04:23] <matiasdj87> Go to Ubuntu Argentina... Thanks! many thanks
[04:23] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> D-Link AirPlus G DWL-G510
[04:23] <temppy> me_: no, you need to add the main repository
[04:23] <WillyWonka389> matiasdj89: what exactly is the problem
[04:24] <matiasdj87> microphone internal not work
[04:24] <scunizi> Al2O3, on the main ubuntu page if you click the download button (big one) the next page has a link for the alternate.. in text on the right column
[04:24] <WillyWonka389> ok we have the same issue, other sounds are fine right
[04:24] <me_> temppy ok.
[04:24] <Relyc> when i try to set up my network between another ubuntu machine the os says permission denied from the main user
[04:25] <WillyWonka389> Now if only we knew someone who could help us
[04:25] <scunizi> Fezzler1, have you tried installing the ubuntu restricted extras package?  of course that would be tough without a connection unless you also have a hardwire available..
[04:25] <temppy> me_: System > Administration > Software Sources    check off the (main) repo
[04:25] <WillyWonka389> matiasdj89:  this is mypost on the forums linked are many walkthroughs:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6253297#post6253297
[04:26] <chetnick> whats up with xorg.conf in 8.10? its empty, not empty but like generic or something. Just few lines?
[04:26] <matiasdj87> oki
[04:26] <trainpic> chetnick
[04:26] <fitri> HY,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
[04:26] <me_> temppy main added. What next?
[04:26] <chetnick> yes
[04:26] <trainpic> the new X server doesn't use xorg.conf by defual
[04:26] <trainpic> *default
[04:27] <scunizi> Fezzler1, I have a dwl- card too in one of my machines.. not sure which version but the g510 looks familure.. after installing the restricted extras package it worked.. also look in System>admin>hardware drivers to see if it's listed either before or after install of the restricted extras pkg.
[04:27] <matiasdj87> 	 	
[04:27] <matiasdj87> I look at it there, where are you?
[04:27] <WillyWonka389> i am th OP
[04:27] <matiasdj87> :O
[04:27] <chetnick> trainpic: here is the deal i need to setup my tablet-pc (n-tring) i found good guide with some wacom patch. but i need to edit my xorg.conf and add some stuff. How do i do that in 8.10?
[04:27] <WillyWonka389> it isnt really helpful but....
[04:27] <matiasdj87> How long do you use ubuntu?
[04:28] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> Is the restricted from Synaptic or the D-Link site driver?
[04:28] <WillyWonka389> the more attention the better
[04:28] <scunizi> Fezzler1, synaptic
[04:28] <wos> can anyone tell me why ubuntu thinks there is some kind of package manager running when in fact none are??
[04:28] <WillyWonka389> 8 months
[04:28] <temppy> me_: finally!  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^                   don't forget the ^  and good luck
[04:28] <trainpic> not exactly sure
[04:28] <trainpic> what does it tell u to edit?
[04:28] <WillyWonka389> i have hardy
[04:28] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> Search D-Link or Atheros?
[04:29] <matiasdj87> ah.. i have Intrepid
[04:29] <scunizi> Fezzler1, search restricted
[04:29] <chetnick> trainpic: to add few lines in Section "server layout", i dont have that section in xorg.conf
[04:29] <WillyWonka389> is that when it started?
[04:29] <trainpic> hm...
[04:30] <matiasdj87> mmm
[04:30] <wedgeoflemon> what kind of files do skydomes have to be for compiz?
[04:30] <matiasdj87> 2 year
[04:30] <WillyWonka389> matiasdj89: i have been thinking of upgrading, apparently the sound configuration is done better
[04:30] <trainpic> i'm not sure what do do in that case
[04:30] <scunizi> Fezzler1, is called linux-restricted-modules<kernel version>
[04:30] <trainpic> im not an expert on X
[04:30] <me_> temppy install in progress. Thanks for your help. If I want to familiarize myself with Linux am I better off with Ibex or Hardy?
[04:30] <DasE1> matiasdj87: could also search: !sound
[04:30] <DasE1> !sound
[04:30] <trainpic> a patch
[04:30] <wos> can anyone tell me why ubuntu thinks there is some kind of package manager running when in fact none are??
[04:31] <WillyWonka389> ubottu: what aboutinternal mic's?
[04:31] <matiasdj87> I thought the same thing, but it was not so
[04:31] <trainpic> like something that you have to recompile Xorg for?
[04:31] <Flannel> wos: Do you have update-manager running?
[04:31] <wos> no
[04:31] <trainpic> Panarchy
[04:31] <Flannel> wos: (also, if you just rebooted, it might be running automatically)
[04:31] <trainpic> its not done yet
[04:31] <trainpic> but its still only finding those 2 partitions
[04:31] <wos> flannel is that so?
[04:31] <skenmon> hi
[04:32] <hmw_> wos: maybe some program you dont identify as package manager is really running . i think it comes in three fahions: the "add software", "synaptic" and "update manager". ther might be some apt-get or aptitude running in a shell, too.
[04:32] <LF|Irssi> is ^ like a wild card or something? and does that work in other commands besides apt?
[04:32] <Flannel> wos: If you are absolutely sure you don't have anything running (and have checked ps aux), you can delete the lock file manually.
[04:32] <scunizi> Fezzler1, ubuntu-restricted-extras is actually for mp3 and other codecs.. linux-restricted-modules has the atheros driver.
[04:32] <Flannel> wos: Yeah, and then the icon in the top right tells you if it found updates, etc.
[04:32] <ddgoose> Fezzler1, can you please do -> sudo lspci -v
[04:32] <ddgoose> Then put results for network cards on pastebin
[04:32] <cuog> hey does anyone know how to enable remote desktop without using the GUI?
[04:32] <matiasdj87> in Suse the microphone works good
[04:32] <wos> flannel, yes but the update manager itself cant start
[04:33] <Fezzler1> ddgoose>> yes
[04:33] <Flannel> wos: alright, what does the following give you: sudo apt-get update
[04:33] <WillyWonka389> thats another dist?
[04:33] <urthmover> Would someone help me connect an hfsplus external drive to Intrepid and make is writable?
[04:33] <Flannel> wos: Pastebin that, and also pastebin `ps aux`
[04:33] <Flannel> !paste | wos
[04:34] <urthmover> at this point its indetified and mounted  but its READ-ONLY
[04:34] <urthmover> I'd like to be able to write
[04:34] <WillyWonka389> dude?
[04:34] <RyanPrior> How do I find out what version of xorg I'm using?
[04:34] <n8tuser2> urthmover--> you have a filesystem on it?
[04:34] <candive> ! medibuntu
[04:34] <urthmover> n8tuser2: yes I do
[04:35] <n8tuser2> RyanPrior--> xdpyinfo
[04:35] <n8tuser2> urthmover--> what FS is on it?
[04:35] <wos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/77010/
[04:35] <RyanPrior> n8tuser2: That gave me a ton of info. Any tips on filtering?
[04:35] <urthmover> pm n8tuser2
[04:35] <RyanPrior> !pm | urthmover
[04:36] <n8tuser2> RyanPrior--> come on, can you at least read it,
[04:36] <DasE1> urthmover: create a dir, mount it, own the dir to normal user
[04:36] <Fezzler1> ddgoose>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/77011/
[04:36] <RyanPrior> n8tuser2: significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
[04:36] <n8tuser2> RyanPrior--> man less   or man more
[04:37] <urthmover> DasE1: mkdir: cannot create directory `1': Read-only file system
[04:37] <aprilhare> hello: I have a question: my Philips VOIP080 usb corded phone currently works as a headset. however I found in the Xorg.0.log log file that it is recognised: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77012/ my question is how could i go about using the keypad properly with skype??
[04:37] <urthmover> n8tuser2: mkdir: cannot create directory `1': Read-only file system
[04:37] <Fezzler1> ddgoose>> I also downloaded a driver from D-Link and RaLink - but not sure what to do.
[04:37] <wos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/77013/
[04:37] <n8tuser2> urthmover--> what FS is on it?
[04:37] <wos> flannel http://paste.ubuntu.com/77013/
[04:37] <urthmover> n8tuser2: hfsplus
[04:37] <DasE1> urthmover: mind if I pm you ?
[04:37] <urthmover> hfsplus is a filesystem right?
[04:37] <urthmover> yes please DasE1
[04:38] <wos> flannel http://paste.ubuntu.com/77010/
[04:38] <Flannel> wos: Line 89, you have an aptitude running.
[04:38] <LoveGuru> !vsftpd
[04:38] <aprilhare> hfs+ is a filesystem under macos
[04:38] <scunizi> Fezzler1, that card has atheros chipset.. install the linux-restricted-modules package for your kernel version
[04:38] <n8tuser2> urthmover--> i have no idea what hfsplus is, but if you can google for it, to get me some explanations?
[04:38] <urthmover> aprilhare: right
[04:38] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> downloading it now
[04:38] <urthmover> thx anyway n8tuser2
[04:38] <Flannel> LoveGuru: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[04:38] <Luke___> all of a sudden ubuntu 8.10 doesnt play DVD's.  any advice please?
[04:39] <LoveGuru> Flannel: tx.
[04:39] <RyanPrior> Luke___: use the force.
[04:39] <Luke___> RyanPrior, what?
[04:39] <Luke___> RyanPrior, force?
[04:39] <aprilhare> Luke___, someone hasn't seen star wars.
[04:39] <Luke___> !force
[04:39] <Luke___> !using force to play DVD
[04:39] <wos> flannel, where would it be listed under my system monitor
[04:39] <Flannel> Guys, please keep offtopic humor out of this channel.  Thanks.
[04:40] <RyanPrior> I am ROFL.
[04:40] <Luke___> aprilhare, dont do that
[04:40] <Luke___> all of a sudden ubuntu 8.10 doesnt play DVD's.  any advice please?
[04:40] <Flannel> wos: Um, No idea.  I don't think I've ever used system monitor.  But it'd be listed as aptitude ;)  Just wait until that process ends.
[04:40] <Luke___> !playing DVD
[04:40] <wos> flannel its not there
[04:40] <Frictor> I've seen worse abuses of rpgserv
[04:40] <Flannel> !dvd | Luke___
[04:40] <Luke___> Flannel, it was playing DVD. I followed that link already
[04:40] <wos> flannel ive been waiting an hour
[04:41] <Flannel> wos: Oh, system monitor probably doesn't show you processes that aren't owned by you.
[04:41] <Luke___> Flannel, all of a sudden it doesnt read the DVD in the drive! any ideas?
[04:41] <ddgoose> Fezzler1, it looks like its being recognized ok
[04:41] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> Download now what?
[04:41] <Fezzler1> ddgoose>> now what?
[04:41] <Flannel> Luke___: No idea, sorry.
[04:42] <roshan>  /window
[04:42] <wedgeoflemon> can someone please help me, my skybox for the deskcube wont work
[04:42] <Luke___> it was playing DVD, but all of a sudden ubuntu 8.10 doesnt recognise a DVD in my drive.  any advice please?
[04:42] <wos> flannel, so where would i find it
[04:42] <scunizi> Fezzler1, sudo /etc/init.d/network restart     (if your irc connection is on this machine you'll lose it)
[04:42] <Flannel> wos: It's in ps aux.  I don't know what you mean by "find it"  aptitude is a terminal application.
[04:43] <phzx> Hello, guys :) I would like to know how to run a program from terminal (like $ firefox) and then deatach it from the terminal? Sorry, but I'm newbie :-)
[04:43] <ddgoose> also pastebin the output of -> iwconfig
[04:43] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> IRC on separate PC.  Should I disconnect my wired cable to the Ubuntu PC at this point?
[04:43] <wos> there is no terminal and there was no terminal running prior to the ps aux
[04:43] <scunizi> Fezzler1, no
[04:43] <scunizi> Fezzler1, see ddgoose post above
[04:43] <Frictor> I've got a problem with Open Office in 8.10.  When I load the program, the menus in it show up as either dashes or underscores.  Is there a way to fix this from the user end, or do I need to report it for the devs to fix?
[04:43] <Flannel> wos: Do you have ssh enabled on this box?  Have you checked your ttys? (ctrl-alt-f1 through ctrl-alt-f6, ctrl-alt-f7 gets you back to the GUI)
[04:44] <trainpic> Panarchy
[04:44] <trainpic> its done
[04:44] <Panarchy> yay
[04:44] <phzx> I must be invisible :/
[04:44] <trainpic> and it still only shows the 2 luks partitions :(
[04:44] <Panarchy> How does it look?
[04:44] <LF|Irssi> phzx: firefox &
[04:44] <Panarchy> well select one of them
[04:44] <Panarchy> press p
[04:44] <Luke___> it was playing DVD, but all of a sudden ubuntu 8.10 doesnt recognise a DVD in my drive.  any advice please?
[04:44] <scottz> phzx: explain what you mean by detach?
[04:44] <phzx> ty Irssi :))
[04:44] <trainpic> k
[04:44] <LF|Irssi> :)
[04:45] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> command not found
[04:45] <scottz> phzx: Do you want the display to go away or go to another computer?  What is the purpose of detaching?
[04:45] <phzx> scotz, like i ran it from Applications -> Internet -> Firefox
[04:45] <scunizi> Fezzler1, k.. reboot it.
[04:45] <trainpic> k i selected one
[04:45] <Flannel> wos: pastebin the output of this, it'll give us more information about that process: ps auxw | grep aptitude
[04:45] <Fezzler1> iwconfig:  lo no wireless extensions    eth0 no wireless extensions
[04:45] <Panarchy> good!
[04:45] <trainpic> this def. isnt right tho
[04:45] <ddgoose> Fezzler1, reboot
[04:46] <scottz> phzx: explain what you mean by detach?
[04:46] <Fezzler1> rebooting
[04:46] <Flannel> wos: It'll give you one line (well, two with the grep)
[04:46] <Frictor> he did.
[04:46] <Panarchy> trainpic, how so?
[04:46] <ddgoose> Then same command
[04:46] <trainpic> they are both 16065 in length
[04:46] <trainpic> and i know one was way bigger than the other
[04:46] <trainpic> also there should be 2 ext3 partitions as well...
[04:46] <LF|Irssi> phzx: screen might work too for what you're wanting 'screen firefox'
[04:46] <LF|Irssi> !screen | phzx
[04:46] <Panarchy> trainpic
[04:46] <Panarchy> have you tried listing the files
[04:46] <wos> root     19255  0.0  1.9  55308 39656 ?        Sl   22:17   0:02 aptitude install virtualbox-2.0
[04:46] <wos> me       25147  0.0  0.0   3240   816 pts/0    S+   23:46   0:00 grep aptitude
[04:46] <Panarchy> I think it was p
[04:47] <Panarchy> or l
[04:47] <trainpic> no
[04:47] <trainpic> that sets it primary
[04:47] <phzx> thanks
[04:47] <Panarchy> well try one
[04:47] <LF|Irssi> yw
[04:47] <phzx> firefox & worked just the way I want it
[04:47] <Flannel> phzx: That's silly.  Overkill for what you're trying to do.  Whats wrong with starting firefox in the run dialog? (Alt-f2)
[04:47] <Panarchy> which ever 1 charecter lists the files
[04:47] <LF|Irssi> ok :)
[04:47] <Fezzler1> rebooted
[04:47] <questnn> How do I make network manager remember the ip adds I put in?
[04:47] <scottz> phzx: ok, you just wanted the process to run in the background...
[04:47] <Panarchy> automatic?
[04:47] <Flannel> wos: alright, so, you're apparently trying to install virtualbox-2.0, do you remember trying to do that?
[04:48] <trainpic> im looking for that
[04:48] <trainpic> hang on
[04:48] <wos> yes
[04:48] <scunizi> Fezzler1, now the network icon link up by the date/clock.. check that for options
[04:48] <Flannel> wos: When?
[04:48] <wos> just an hour ago
[04:48] <Flannel> wos: Alright, and that terminal is where?
[04:48] <phzx> I have another question, why in firefox I can't middle click to scroll easier?
[04:48] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> yes, now shows both Netwroking and Wirless Enable checked
[04:48] <wos> its gone, ive logged in and out since then
[04:48] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> and connection info
[04:49] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> disconnect my wired yet?
[04:49] <scunizi> Fezzler1, cool.. now you just have to tell it to connect thte wireless.. disconnect the wired.. yes
[04:49] <phreck> Hey guys anyone have a good thread or site for getting the Dell Studio 15 up and running completely?
[04:49] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> dumb question - pull the wire or uncheck the Enabled good enough
[04:50] <scunizi> Fezzler1, pull the wire.. just for good measure.
[04:50] <Flannel> wos: well, that's where your problem started.  We could kill it, and then fix whatever issues are caused by it if you'd like.
[04:50] <fibraoptica> hay alguien que hable español en esta sala
[04:50] <Flannel> !es | fibraoptica
[04:50] <phzx> why in firefox I can't middle click to scroll easier?
[04:50] <wos> ok that'd be great
[04:50] <trainpic> panarchy
[04:50] <Fezzler1> ok
[04:50] <trainpic> it doesnt have a key to list files
[04:50] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> I see green lights flashing
[04:51] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> on the wireless card
[04:51] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> now what?
[04:51] <scunizi> Fezzler1, YEA!
[04:51] <Panarchy> yes
[04:51] <scunizi> Fezzler1, try connecting to a site
[04:51] <Panarchy> (make it quick)
[04:51] <trainpic> there isnt a key to list files
[04:51] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> no go
[04:51] <trainpic> however
[04:52] <trainpic> i tried running the scan again
[04:52] <Panarchy> yes there is
[04:52] <Panarchy> p
[04:52] <Flannel> wos: alright, so, from that line, we know the PID is 19255, so `sudo kill 19255`  then run `ps aux | grep aptitude` and see if it returns the aptitude command
[04:52] <trainpic> well
[04:52] <Panarchy> yes, trainpic, what happened?
[04:52] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> wait, let me select my SSID
[04:52] <trainpic> i said yes to the vista partitions q
[04:52] <trainpic> and i think its finding my other partitions now
[04:52] <Panarchy> ah
[04:52] <Panarchy> great
[04:52] <trainpic> we'll see
[04:52] <Panarchy> good luck
[04:52] <Panarchy> gtg
[04:52] <trainpic> k
[04:52] <FloodBot2> Panarchy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:52] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> bingo
[04:52] <trainpic> thx for your help
[04:52] <urthmover> Well I'm still struggling getting an external USB hard drive to be read/write.  Does anyone here have experience with mounting drives in fstab and such?
[04:53] <scunizi> Fezzler1, working?
[04:53] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> any tweaks for speed or security? Yup - working
[04:53] <wos> me       25445  0.0  0.0   3236   808 pts/0    S+   23:53   0:00 grep aptitude
[04:53] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> email and all
[04:53] <DasE1> urthmover: everythings fine, exept the fact you gotta be root to write to it
[04:54] <fitri> HYMMMMMMMMMMMM
[04:54] <Flannel> wos: good.  You've killed it.  Now do this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, and see if it works
[04:54] <scunizi> Fezzler1, security..  wpa but it's not always the easiest to get working.. wicd seems to work better then network-manager from what I understand but if you use it you have to uninstall network-manager
[04:55] <greghere> Why wont Ubuntu install pick up network card?
[04:55] <_cb> temppy this is me_ with the desktop back. Thanks a lot !!!!!!!!
[04:55] <wos> yes it worked for the most part
[04:56] <LF|Irssi> is there a way to exclude a folder from the locate command? i dont want /media/disk to be included
[04:56] <Flannel> wos: It might give you a command to finish reconfiguring virtualbox or whatnot, go ahead and do that if it says to.
[04:57] <adrenergic> hi room
[04:57] <adrenergic> i need help regarding OIDENTD.conf
[04:57] <_cb> If I want to familiarize myself with Ubuntu am I better off with Hardy or with Ibex? (Currently using Hardy)
[04:57] <k_low> for the locate command check the file /etc/updatedb.conf
[04:57] <somethingclever> what is the line you have to add it /etc/modules to enable some broadcom wifi cards?
[04:58] <k_low> and then "man updatedb.conf"
[04:58] <adrenergic> how can i put multiple replies on one line..... allow reply ... can anyone tell me the syntax should it  be separated by commas or quotes or space or anything else
[04:58] <k_low> _cb i would say it depends on what you want to try out ubuntu to do
[04:58] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> Security is set in wireless router via MAC filter, right?
[04:59] <k_low> latest and greatest whistles and bells or stable production environment
[04:59] <k_low> desktop or server?
[04:59] <scunizi> Fezzler1, that is one way.. that's what I use at home..
[04:59] <renj2b> ubuntu
[04:59] <scunizi> Fezzler1, also I turn off broadcasting
[04:59] <eugenesum1> hey
[04:59] <keith1569> anyguys can anyone here help me with getting mt-daapd working
[04:59] <somethingclever> what is the line you have to add it /etc/modules to enable some broadcom wifi cards? has somethign to do with b43 or something?
[04:59] <renj2b> Hello, everybode here ?
[05:00] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> I have a wired router and chained to it via the DMZ for VPN pass thru is my wireless router
[05:00] <_cb> k_low am trying to evaluate ubuntu as a successor to XP and an alternative to Vista/Windows 7
[05:00] <scunizi> Fezzler1, more complicated than my setup but it works!
[05:00] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> Works, but I turn wireless on and off because I don't understand MAC filter and it seems to throw off my CISCO VPN
[05:00] <pckchem> _cb, i'd day 8.10 due to better hardware support and a little bit slicker user interface.
[05:01] <pckchem> _cb, *say*
[05:01] <k_low> _cb go with ibex and if your machine has the resources go with ubuntu-studio edition
[05:01] <renj2b> @_cd u can install ubuntu by disk setup, choose line2 ,install as a program of win
[05:01] <keith1569> anyone use itunes server?
[05:01] <renj2b> no :(
[05:01] <keith1569> damn lol
[05:01] <k_low> then make sure you get all the partner and unsupported repositories
[05:01] <renj2b> ? Why u say that ?
[05:02] <_cb> ok since I am in Hardy is it better to upgrade or do a clean install? If it was windows I would do a clean install.
[05:02] <renj2b> keith1569 is impolite
[05:02] <keith1569> why am i impolite..im just playin
[05:02] <amen> hi
[05:02] <k_low> depends
[05:02] <scunizi> Fezzler1, use the routers mapping of dhcp to figure out what your machine's mac address is.. then under the mac filter section enter the address and "allow only" that one.
[05:02] <ddgoose> _cb, open terminal -> sudo update-manager -d
[05:02] <somethingclever> can anyone help me get my broadcom wifi card working? it says enabled and in use but it isnt working
[05:02] <k_low> the upgrade is clean
[05:02] <scunizi> Fezzler1, do that in the wireless router.
[05:02] <k_low> but a clean install is always a nice fresh start
[05:03] <renj2b> How can i find driver for ubuntu T_T ?
[05:03] <k_low> how backed up is your box and comfy you are restoring it
[05:03] <DasE1> somethingclever: seen:
[05:03] <adrenergic> i'm using hardy-heron.... ie 8.04LTS... my graphic card & monitor supports 1024x768x32 but linux isn't getting it... now i'm on 800x600... it was working in 6.06LTS & 7.04... how am i gonna change it to that!
[05:03] <DasE1> !braodcom
[05:03] <DasE1> !broadcom
[05:03] <gluonman> Desktop effects keep automatically turning off sometimes in Intrepid for some reason. Compiz doesn't work when that happens.
[05:03] <renj2b> How can i find driver for ubuntu T_T ?
[05:03] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> okay, I see the dhcp in the wireless.  what do I do with that?
[05:04] <_cb> guess I can do a clean install on one machine and an upgrade on another. sudo update-manager -d does the upgrade?
[05:04] <RyanPrior> How do I find what version of X11 I'm using?
[05:04] <Flannel> !upgrade | _cb
[05:04] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> It says DHCP Address Range followed by and IP then ~ and a number
[05:04] <scunizi> Fezzler1, highlight and copy (ctrl+c), then go to the mac filter section of the same router and ener it.
[05:04] <k_low> i agree ubottu :)
[05:04] <renj2b> @_cb I think just sudo apt-get update
[05:04] <scunizi> Fezzler1, sounds like you might be in the wrong section
[05:05] <scunizi> Fezzler1, what kind of router..?
[05:05] <td1231> omg, hibernate and suspend work on 8.10 finally!!! thank you
[05:05] <RyanPrior> td1231: woohoo
[05:05] <somethingclever> There was some command i entered in terminal to get wifi working (2 days ago) and i entered that same commmand into my /etc/modules, does anyone know what the command is?
[05:05] <somethingclever> Please Help me
[05:05] <k_low> _cb it would be "sudo aptitude upgrade" or "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[05:05] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> Belkin
[05:06] <k_low> if you were to use command line
[05:06] <unstable> How can I found out what my sound device is?
[05:06] <Flannel> k_low: That's not really true.
[05:06] <td1231> somethingclever: in a terminal, press the up arrow key to see your history, hopefully you can find it
[05:06] <scunizi> Fezzler1, back in a few.. look around.. check manual.. my kids need me for a few minutes.
[05:06] <k_low> but synaptic will happily do it for you if you are a pointy clicky type user
[05:06] <ddgoose> somethingclever, see if you can find the command in your shell, type -> history
[05:06] <somethingclever> td1231, ddgoose i had to reinstall since then
[05:06] <k_low> Flannel - no why not?
[05:07] <Flannel> k_low: Because he wants to switch from one version to another.  That command will merely make him up to date with his current version.
[05:07] <unstable> How do I found out what file name, /dev/dsp or whatever, I need to do for some sound application?
[05:07] <k_low> the dist-upgrade
[05:07] <Flannel> k_low: yep
[05:07] <k_low> but you should do the upgrade first
[05:07] <somethingclever> how do i install broadcom drivers via terminal?
[05:07] <k_low> in order to normalize the system
[05:08] <scunizi> Fezzler1, check pm
[05:08] <Flannel> k_low: no.  dist-upgrade by itself won't upgrade from version to version, only up-to-date with current version
[05:08] <k_low> jumping multiple versions during a dist-upgrade asks for trouble
[05:08] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> PM?
[05:08] <qcjn> hi, i'm trying to connect with ssh, and after the password it tell's me "permission denied" ?
[05:08] <k_low> corrected i am
[05:08] <k_low> thanks
[05:08] <k_low> :D
[05:08] <ddgoose> somethingclever, check pm
[05:08] <Fezzler1> I still don't understand
[05:08] <crashsystems> does anyone know where a users trash is contained?
[05:08] <Flannel> !trash  | crashsystems
[05:09] <phreck> anyone here have a Dell studio?
[05:09] <scunizi> Fezzler1, there is a section in the router that allows for mac filtering..usually under Wireless and Wireless Mac Filter
[05:10] <shlomic> I have an NTFS disc with  stuff on it, i want to phsically connect it to my ubuntu and share it via samba with windows clients. does it matter that its NTFS, should i format it to FAT, is there a difference in performance?
[05:10] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> There's a Filter IP Address Range section; a Filter Port Range; Filter MAC Adress; Edit MAC Filter Settings
[05:10] <scunizi> Fezzler1, Edit might be the place to start then filter mac address
[05:10] <terr_> where can I get some detailed video driver support information for Xfree86 on Ubuntu?  I'm looking for multi head info on a savage4 (8a22) chipset living on a VIA/S3 Predator LT4 card
[05:11] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> every teenager in the neighnorhood probably uses my wireless when I forget to disconnect it
[05:11] <pckchem> shlomic - not really. Actually ntfs tends to be a little better than FAT in my experience. Besides, if you format to FAT you loose your stuff. If you're going to format it to anything just do it to ext3
[05:11] <scunizi> Fezzler1, that's a good reason for mac filtering.
[05:11] <DasE1> !sudo | urthmover
[05:11] <DasE1> !sudo > urthmover
[05:11] <scunizi> Fezzler1, AND turning off "broadcasting" of the ssid
[05:12] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> In Edit, there is a drop down - Filter MAC Address - and then ten field mac 1 through 10
[05:12] <scunizi> Fezzler1, that's where you'd enter your mac address
[05:12] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> Drop down goes 1~10, 11~20, etc.
[05:13] <shlomic> pckchem, thanks, do i need to install anything for NTFS support?
[05:13] <scunizi> Fezzler1, each numeric value probably represents a different mac address.. just enter your's into position #1
[05:13] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> where do I get my MAC Address?
[05:14] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> you mean the DHCP we discussed?
[05:14] <ruiner189> Hi everyone. I'm new to all of this so I need a little bit of help. I'm trying to install the dependency dri2proto in order to run a mesa opengl driver, but, lol, I'm not really sure how to type in the path in the terminal for the location of the file. I'm very used to xp, if not obvious. Anyone like to help? : D
[05:14] <gluonman> My visual effects are automatically shutting off for some reason. I'm using Intrepid. How can I diagnose and fix this problem?
[05:14] <Flannel> Fezzler1: ifconfig, it's your HWaddr
[05:15] <andy_> hello, I'm trying to get some help setting up my postfix mail server on hardy...is this the appropriate channel?
[05:15] <scunizi> Fezzler1, go up to the wireless connection icon up by the date/clock and right mouse click. choose connection info and look at the last item in the list
[05:15] <terr_> andy #postfix
[05:15] <soier> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem, what's it
[05:15] <andy_> thank you terr_
[05:16] <terr_> andy_: I run postfix on Debian and on the OpenBSD servers
[05:16] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> Hardware Address?
[05:16] <scunizi> Fezzler1, yes
[05:16] <terr_> andy_ but not at the ISP style emails which I need
[05:16] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> Enter that in the first Filtered Mac Address field mac 1
[05:17] <shlomic> do i need to install anything for NTFS support?
[05:17] <scunizi> Fezzler1, yes.. cap and lower case make a difference as well as the ":" 's
[05:17] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> ?
[05:17] <DasE1> ﻿ shlomic: which ubu-version ?
[05:18] <shlomic> DasE1, its ibex , but server + thunar + xorg+ firefox+ xfce4
[05:18] <IdleOne> shlomic, no
[05:18] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> It has more characters than the mac 1 field accepts
[05:19] <DasE1> ﻿ shlomic: should be there by default, might try : sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[05:19] <shlomic> DasE1, i will thanks
[05:19] <sancho21> I failed installing ubuntu with persistent configuration and home using unetbooting, usb-creator or xubuntu8.10 specific usb creator. My files keep missing after restart. So do with configurations
[05:19] <ddgoose> Fezzler1, are you putting the :'s in also?
[05:19] <scunizi> Fezzler1, should be 12 numbers in pairs seperated by colons
[05:19] <ahtmly2k> any1 got experience in installing a sonyericsson dcu-11 cable on ubuntu?
[05:19] <luciddream> hi, my main computer got fried today.  I just stuck one of my harddrives (IDE) into my server box and want to mount it.  It's got separate ext3, fat32, and swp partitions if I remember.  How can I discover the volume labels so I can mount it?  I want to mount the fat32 but am having trouble.
[05:19] <Fezzler1> ddgoose>> yes
[05:19] <ddgoose> drop the :'s
[05:20] <scunizi> Fezzler1, just use the colons. :)
[05:20]  * Mustinet gm all o/
[05:20] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> Yes, it is six pairs of characters separated by colons
[05:20] <scunizi> Good call ddgoose ! :)
[05:20] <ddgoose> mine just takes the straight hex with no :'s
[05:21] <somethingclever> ddgoose, im back
[05:21] <n8tuser2> luciddream--> fdisk -l
[05:21] <scunizi> Fezzler1, so they are entered?  don't forget to hit the save button if there is one.
[05:21] <DasE1> is there a great risk to run fsck.hfsplus on a hfs external ?
[05:21] <hmw_> luciddrea start fdisk and enter "p" (print partitions) to find which parition is fat32
[05:22] <hmw_> luciddrea fdisk -l even better
[05:22] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> It does not accept them all
[05:22] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> I do use the colons, rigth
[05:22] <scunizi> Fezzler1, then drop the colons
[05:22] <DasE1> is there a great risk to run fsck.hfsplus on a hfs external ?   using the force - option ? ubu comlains about journaling fs without f
[05:22] <neuratix> hi, i would like to file a bug or something, but anyway: the last update killed open office!
[05:23] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> setting successful
[05:23] <luciddream> thanks n8tuser2 and hmw_ I'll try it
[05:23] <urthmover> what does force checking do if I run fsck.hfsplus -f  ?
[05:23] <DasE1> luciddream: sudo fdisk -l  or look into gparted
[05:23] <neuratix> suddenly i was looking at the desktop with nothing else than the update manager running as i was writing my ex.phil-paper
[05:23] <mmcji> howdee
[05:23] <urthmover> would that possibly help my ability to write to that mounted drive?
[05:24] <scunizi> Fezzler1, good.. look in the other menu's about mac filtering and set it so the one you entered is the only one used..
[05:25] <relisys> Someone please help me. I cannot start my DVD in linux
[05:25] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> Filter IP Address Range section offers a Start and End range?
[05:25] <mmcji> i am looking for software to make screen captures for tutorials.  What are people using on ubuntu for this?  I have tried, recordmydesktop, istanbul, and xvidcap.  I have also tried wink but it is not gpl.
[05:25] <urthmover> DasE1: I'm inclined to do the -f  cause I'm feeling impatient  what do you think?
[05:25] <relisys> Its a perfectly working DVD and no matter whati try it does not work
[05:25] <relisys> in i windows it plays with no prob
[05:26] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> Filter Port Range offers a Protocol Drop Down and a Start and End rnage
[05:26] <somethingclever> relisys, do you have restricted formats enabled?
[05:26] <cvd-pr> Can someOne explain me Hwy Text-Editor(gedit) takes 10 second to OPen?
[05:26] <luciddream> fdisk -l is a godsend.  worked like a charm!
[05:26] <scunizi> Fezzler1, no.. one of the other ones you mentioned previously dealing specifically with MAC
[05:26] <relisys> something: i dont know what that is
[05:26] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> Then there is a section on Block WAN requests
[05:26] <cvd-pr> ?
[05:27] <DasE1> urthmover: I think if the drive does easily mount on your apple, better use a checking tool from there - I'm no apple user, there is always a slight chance to mess a drive with fsck
[05:27] <Relyc> i cant set up a network with another ubuntu machine it says permission denied in the main user on a non protected file
[05:27] <somethingclever> relisys, in a terminal type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-resticted-extras" without the quoste
[05:27] <mmcji> cvd-pr: what version of ubuntu are you on? did you install gedit from synaptic? did you install the extra's?
[05:27] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> There is a MAC Address Cloning in Setup tab?
[05:28] <urthmover> DasE1: ok I'll wait then and connect up the drive to OSX in the morning
[05:28] <n8tuser2> Relyc--> what have you done?
[05:28] <urthmover> thanks for your help DasE1
[05:28] <cvd-pr> mmcji, 8.10,no,no
[05:28] <relisys> somethingclever: installing
[05:28] <urthmover> will you be around tomorrow if I have other questions?
[05:28] <DasE1> urthmover: sorry for not getting further
[05:28] <somethingclever> relisys after that you should be able to watch a DVD
[05:28]  * Mustinet bye bye
[05:28] <somethingclever> relisys, its basically like installling codecs
[05:29] <mmcji> what did you install it? apt-get, aptitude? from source?
[05:29] <DasE1> urthmover: eerm, some people are here sometimes :)
[05:29] <scunizi> Fezzler1, no .. don't use that... sorry. but my battery is running out.. I suggest you go to belkins site and download the manual for that router.. It will have info on how to do it correctlly.. sorry I can't continue.. left the charger elsewhere..
[05:29] <Fezzler1> scunizi>> ?
[05:29] <cvd-pr> mmc1,  even OpenOffice Word open more faster than gedit  :-S
[05:29] <azfira> #bandung
[05:30] <Fezzler1> Flannel>> You know how to set up my MAC Filtering so every teenager on the block isn't using my wireless connection?
[05:31] <relisys> somethingclever: yeah its installing for a while...  but if it works its worth it
[05:31] <somethingclever> relisys, totally is
[05:31] <Fezzler1> Flannel>> There's a Filter IP Address Range section; a Filter Port Range; Filter MAC Adress; Edit MAC Filter Settings
[05:31] <Flannel> Fezzler1: then yeah, filter by mac address, enter your address, etc.
[05:31] <cvd-pr> :-(
[05:32] <mmcji> will if you install with apt-get i would do apt-get --purge remove gedit and then reinstall, for me it opens right away so you certaily have an issue.  I would also check your system logs for issues...ie /var/log/messages etc...
[05:32] <Flannel> Fezzler1: And just consult the manual if you have issues.  It's entirely dependant (and arbitrary) on your router
[05:32] <lagann_> Fezzler1, why won't you enable a wep or wpa or put your SSID invisible?
[05:32] <n8tuser2> Fezzler1--> not to be rude, but have you done any kind of googling to find these info?
[05:33] <mmcji> cvd-pr: I know that is not really much help, but that is what I would start with.
[05:33] <wandana> Can anyone help me with xvidcap?
[05:33] <Fezzler1> Flannel>> I have the manual and find this issue confusing.  (And that from a guy that cloned his HD with ddrescue today and re-partitioned two drivees)
[05:33] <wandana> First xvidcap chrashes, but after installing libavcodec-unstripped-51 it works
[05:33] <Fezzler1> n8tuser I understand
[05:34] <wandana> Well to the point where I stop the recording
[05:34] <cvd-pr> mmc1, done, disable the File Browser plugin
[05:34] <cvd-pr> mmcji, done, disable the File Browser plugin
[05:34] <wandana> From there on it seems to stop and generates a mpeg-file of size 0
[05:34] <subdolus> is it possible to chmod a file so even root cant modify or delete it?
[05:34] <cvd-pr> mmcji, is a Bug
[05:34] <subdolus> but only the user who created it>
[05:34] <terr_> subdolus: I doubt it
[05:35] <terr_> subdolus: you can cypher it
[05:35] <Fezzler1> n8tuser no offense taken - I just done understand all the security settings: MAC fiter; WEP; WPA; VPN; DMZ?
[05:35] <n8tuser2> Fezzler1--> i hope you dont expect to learn all that stuff in one sitting or even in two days...it takes time..so you hve to do lots more reading
[05:35] <mmcji> cvd-pr: I just use it to edit config files like bind where i want to compare it to other records that I have.  My use is prob more simplistic that what you may be using it for.
[05:35] <Fezzler1> You don't know how many days I was on work tech support until I understood concept that router had one port that was DMZ and allowed VPN pass through
[05:35] <subdolus> terr_: then would i still be able to actually run it?
[05:36] <subdolus> its a bash file
[05:36] <subdolus> i want everyone to be able to run it, but no one to edit or delete it
[05:36] <terr_> subdolus: inly if you decrypt it
[05:36] <Fezzler1> n8tuser I hear ya
[05:36] <skenmon> hi
[05:36] <subdolus> dang
[05:36] <ohnoes> subdolus: root can do anything
[05:36] <n8tuser2> Fezzler1--> i think a good tutorial on networking would help you a lot
[05:36] <cvd-pr> mmcji, jus openin a blank gedit takes 10 seconds
[05:36] <ohnoes> always
[05:36] <subdolus> yeah i thought that was the idea
[05:36] <Fezzler1> n8tuser I chalk it to poor technical writing
[05:36] <subdolus> but i recall trying to rm something as root once and it didnt delete
[05:37] <Fezzler1> sorry all - I'll drop off
[05:37] <ohnoes> Maybe something in proc?
[05:37] <bdizzle> hi, I realize this is a question for the #kubuntu room, but it seems no one is answering in there
[05:37] <mmcji> yikes, it takes me well under a second
[05:37] <bdizzle> I'm trying to install 8.10 and after backing up files and such
[05:37] <mepholic> http://i33.tinypic.com/mcx345.jpg
[05:37] <terr_> subdolus: if two programs have the file open the rm will not remove it
[05:37] <bdizzle> I go to install it and it is not showing any partitions and such
[05:38] <bdizzle> which is bad, considering I have 2 physical drives and 5 total logical drives
[05:38] <bdizzle> plus swap etc
[05:38] <mmcji> but I also have a T7300 cpu with 4 gig of ram and a 7200rpm hard disk with 16mb of cache too, so im sure that helps allot.
[05:39] <ohnoes> T7300 = mobile?
[05:39] <mmcji> yes sir
[05:39] <terr_> mmcji: why such a slow HDD?
[05:39] <ohnoes> lol
[05:39] <Gnea> terr_: the cache makes up for it ;)
[05:39] <bdizzle> could someone help me try to get this working?
[05:39] <mmcji> lol, im poor
[05:39] <terr_> LOL
[05:39] <kelvin911> hi which ubuntu is LTS?
[05:39] <relisys> somethingclever:  still no :(
[05:39] <gopp> !vhosting
[05:40] <kelvin911> 6.06 and which version?
[05:40] <gopp> is it simple to do vhosting in apache for ubuntu
[05:40] <terr_> mmcji: intel has a new solid state drive out... something like 230 mb/sec
[05:40] <computer> why wont it let me drag and drop a shortcut to /home/computer_user ?
[05:40] <Gnea> bdizzle: are you sure it's only showing the disks and not the partitions themselves until another step?
[05:40] <somethingclever> relisys, try sudo apt-get install w32-codecs
[05:40] <mmcji> terr_:cool
[05:40] <bdizzle> no, its not showing anything
[05:40] <mepholic> * Now talking on #obama
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[05:40] <FloodBot2> mepholic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:41] <skenmon> hi
[05:41] <n8tuser2> gopp--> its easy, if you want more tweaking of apache, kindly visit #apache  channel
[05:41] <Gnea> !pm | Fezzler1
[05:41] <bdizzle> which is strange, considered i Just moved all of the home files to another drive and got that running for backup
[05:41] <larson9999> nv17 have 3d back in intrepid?
[05:41] <subdolus> !paste
[05:41] <bdizzle> basically, I've got a 100 GB hard drive partition that I can deditcate for Kubuntu, I might as well make it useful
[05:42] <Gnea> bdizzle: can you open a terminal and see what dmesg has to say about the drives?
[05:42] <computer> please i am trying to place a shortcut inside a user's desktop. HELP ME. says i dont have permission, but i am logged in as admin
[05:42] <bdizzle> yeah, hold on. I just rebooted into my normal kubuntu, about to switch back to the CD
[05:42] <terr_> cna Ububtu (or any version of Linux) support two kbboards adn two mice and at least two monitors on one machine?  If so how?
[05:42] <computer> i created a user, but cant seem to add files to his desktop folder
[05:43] <ardchoille> Does Brasero on Intrepid have known issues? I'm getting bad burns about every 3 or 4 burns. The Nautilus burning app seems to be better.
[05:43] <terr_> computer: cehck your securities.  (chmod)
[05:43] <lagann_> bdizzle, did you try restarting your computer and loading the install cd again?
[05:43] <MHz128> How do I automate the keyring unlocking at startup?
[05:43] <n8tuser2> computer--> are you logged on as that user or as root?
[05:43] <bdizzle> yeah, doing that now
[05:43] <Gnea> computer: your best bet, in this channel, is to *never* say anything like "HELP ME." or "please help me" since it's obvious that you're asking for help in a... help channel.   what is the result of the id command?
[05:43] <relisys> somethingclever:  i cannot seem to find w32-codecs in my synaptic
[05:43] <ardchoille> I'd file a bug report but don't really have any info to contribute
[05:43] <zohreh> how can install Russian font in ubuntu
[05:43] <Gnea> !ru | zohreh
[05:44] <Gnea> zohreh: the #ubuntu-ru people will know better :)
[05:44] <computer> i created a user, but cant seem to add files to his desktop folder in /home/limited_user. says dont have permission
[05:44] <n8tuser2> ardchoille--> i myself would attribute that to laser perhaps getting too hot, so let it cool off for a few, in-btween burns
[05:44] <n8tuser2> computer--> are you logged on as that user or as root?
[05:45] <mmcji> relisys: i think you have to add multiverse repository to apt-get sources file.
[05:45] <computer> as root
[05:45] <n8tuser2> !who
[05:45] <mmcji> then do apt-get update
[05:45] <n8tuser2> computer--> please respond with my nick as prefix
[05:45] <mmcji> might also have to have universe, let me check mine
[05:45] <ardchoille> n8tuser: ah, good advice. but these burns have been over a period of a few weeks.
[05:45] <computer> !who n8tuser2
[05:46] <Gnea> computer: are you trying to copy or symbolically link the files?
[05:46] <n8tuser2> ardchoille--> am not saying there are no known bugs, am just saying i'd put a cooling off time..thats all
[05:47] <mmcji> yeah i have multiverse and universe repositories added to my sources.list
[05:47] <ardchoille> n8tuser2: Ok, will try that, thanks :)
[05:47] <computer> i used crossover to install internet explore 6, then created a user, now i just need to add shortcut to user's desktop so he can use internet explore
[05:48] <computer> how do i even create a simple folder inside a user's desktop logged in as root
[05:48] <sudobash> I am trying to boot my Windows Partition in Linux with VMPlayer and I have gotten as far as being able to see the grub menu but my keys won't control it... how do I get past this point and to my windows partition?
[05:49] <Gnea> computer: did you install ie6 as a regular user or as root?
[05:49] <computer> as root
[05:49] <mmcji> computer: mkdir "newdirectory name"
[05:49] <n8tuser2> computer--> easy, you cd to the /home/ofthatuser  and mkdir  folder  but dont forget to change the ownership tothatuser
[05:49] <cdac> hi
[05:49] <mmcji> yeah what n8tuser2 said
[05:49] <SuperDefenderX_> yeah...
[05:50]  * Panarchy says Hi
[05:50] <computer> n8 how change ownership then change back to normal?
[05:50] <mmcji> but perhaps an easier way for you to do it and not have to worry about resetting the permissions would be to do
[05:50] <mmcji> sudo su - users
[05:50] <SuperDefenderX_> How come my machine leaves little patterns of thread in the hems of my pants when I step on the pedal? Additionally, it's making this rapid ticking sound...
[05:50] <cdac> I am getting the following error "X Error of failed request: Badvalue(integer parameter out of range for operation) while running keyjnote. How to solve this?
[05:50] <mmcji> users being the user you are going to create a new folder in
[05:50] <computer> chmod 777 /home/limited_user/desktop?
[05:51] <somethingclever> how do you install broadcom drivers via terminal?
[05:51] <mmcji> sudo will ask you for your pwd
[05:51] <computer> then change back to chmod 755?
[05:51] <n8tuser2> computer chown  -R username:username /path/to/foldername
[05:51] <mmcji> then when you create the new directory, it will be as that user and your permissions will be set correctly
[05:51] <hai> I am getting the following error "X Error of failed request: Badvalue(integer parameter out of range for operation) while running keyjnote. How to solve this?
[05:51] <sudobash> anyone know about running a partition in VM
[05:51] <wandana> Can someone explain me why xvidcap is not recoding. It does not crash, but when I stop recording a file of size 0 is generated.
[05:51] <wandana> Do I need to install certain packages?
[05:51] <SuperDefenderX_> !Ubuntu
[05:51] <Panarchy> I was wondering if anyone knew how I could save my settings (and customisations) for when I create a LiveCD? So far, I have been able to save a custom wallpaper, custom applications and custom desktop icons... but I need to be able to save: Which panel icons appear (and don't appear), which WINE applications I have installed & what firefox extensions (addons) that I have installed. Any help with this would be appreciated.
[05:52] <Panarchy> Thanks in advance
[05:52] <Panarchy> Panarchy
[05:52] <SuperDefenderX_> !Foo
[05:52] <n8tuser2> computer--> follow mmcji suggestion
[05:52] <SuperDefenderX_> !lol
[05:52] <hai> I am getting the following error "X Error of failed request: Badvalue(integer parameter out of range for operation) while running keyjnote. How to solve this?
[05:52] <xorlim> is 2.6.27-10-generic a good linux kernel version?
[05:52] <wandana> I installed libavcodec-unstripped-51 already
[05:53] <e-frame> how to enable javascript in elinks ?
[05:54] <n8tuser2> e-frame--> i dont know, try and see if you can use w3m
[05:54] <mmcji> e-frame, i may be incorrect, and I know this is not what you asked, but I thought links2 already has javascript support.
[05:54] <kelvin911> what is the different between LTS and not LTS?
[05:54] <zerodevice> hi everyone
[05:54] <vancomycin> hi, i just upgraded to 8.04 LTS , in the process as we speak upgrading to 8.10 via online upgrade - I have an external DVD writer plextor PX-712UF connected via a firewire cable to a firewire pcmcia cardbus adapter - I don't see the external drive (and possibly the cardbus) adapter being shown/recognized in "places > computer" how should i go about to enable/find these two pieces of hardware?
[05:54] <e-frame> mmcji i'm using elinks not links
[05:54] <kelvin911> is LTS better version?
[05:55] <zerodevice> i was just trying to install my scanner, microtek, and i dont have linux driver, so i kinda found out from SANE, but after i downloaded the tar files, it does not have any .sh in it. so what do i do?
[05:55] <TecnicoDPC> Hello Everybody
[05:55] <roshank> is anyone here good with webcam drivers?
[05:55] <ardchoille> kelvin911: LTS = Long Term Support (3 years on the desktop, 5 years on the server)
[05:55] <mmcji> e-frame: i know, i was just trying to give an alternative.  n8tuser2 made another suggestion as well..  Sorry I do not know the answer to your question.
[05:55] <Panarchy> I was wondering if anyone knew how I could save my settings (and customisations) for when I create a LiveCD? So far, I have been able to save a custom wallpaper, custom applications and custom desktop icons... but I need to be able to save: Which panel icons appear (and don't appear), which WINE applications I have installed & what firefox extensions (addons) that I have installed. Any help with this would be appreciated.
[05:56] <Panarchy> Thanks in advance
[05:56] <Panarchy> Panarchy
[05:56] <kelvin911> what kinda support?  autoupdate?
[05:56] <kelvin911> what about without LTS?
[05:56] <e-frame> mmcji: n8tuser2 ok now i'm installing links2 i'll find out
[05:56] <ardchoille> kelvin911: bug fixes and security updates. without LTS i think support is 18 months, but I could be wrong
[05:56] <hai> I am getting the following error "X Errorof failed request: Bad value" while ruuning an application in projector. but the same works fine in normal monitor.How to solve this.......
[05:56] <bdizzle> hi, need some quick help on partitioning properly with my ever so complex partitions
[05:56] <kelvin911> so i should stick with 8.04 for now?
[05:57] <roshank> Panarchy: try this http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/10/15/ubuntu-810-persistent-flash-drive-install-from-live-cd/
[05:57] <bdizzle> I just deleted out the now former Kubuntu 8.04 partition, need to know how to create two partitions out of the old partition: one for root, one for home
[05:57] <ardchoille> kelvin911: it's up to you. I usually just upgrade every 18 months to the new release
[05:57] <Panarchy> roshank, ok, I'll give it a try
[05:57] <kelvin911> did u upgrade it thru the autoupdate?
[05:57] <kelvin911> or fresh install?
[05:57] <n8tuser> vancomycin -> try to use   hal-device-manager
[05:57] <roshank> is anyone here good with webcam drivers?
[05:57] <ardchoille> kelvin911: no, install from cd
[05:58] <n8tuser> e-frame -> i said w3m
[05:58] <kelvin911> do i need to back up /home?
[05:58] <vancomycin> n8tuser, hey thanks is that via the terminal?
[05:58] <n8tuser> vancomycin -> yes
[05:59] <e-frame> yes n8tuser2 i'm giving a try to what mmcji said. then i'll try w3m too
[05:59] <mmcji> kelvin911: I use 8.04 server and am very happy with it.  I had some issues with rails on 8.10 server that I have not had time to work out yet.  I also use 8.04 on my laptop and am very ahppy with it as well.
[05:59] <ardchoille> kelvin911: backing up personal data is recommended regardless of operating system ;)
[05:59] <Panarchy> roshank: had a look at that guide, all it's telling me is how to install Ubuntu on a USB
[05:59] <Panarchy> which is now included by default in 8.10
[05:59] <Panarchy> !!!
[05:59] <kelvin911> is there flash version?
[05:59] <ardchoille> !flash | kelvin911
[05:59] <kelvin911> i dont wanna buy blank cd
[05:59] <vancomycin> n8tuser, alright i'm going to try that in a few minutes, my 8.10 upgrade is almost complete...it's just installing - what should i expect when running hal-device-manager?
[05:59] <mmcji> e-frame, please let me know of w3m works too.  Thank you
[06:00] <ardchoille> kelvin911: oh, sorry, misunderstood your question
[06:00] <e-frame> mmcji: ok
[06:00] <n8tuser> vancomycin -> bunch of goodies
[06:00] <vancomycin> n8tuser, :)
[06:00] <kelvin911> is there a flash version of liveCD?
[06:00] <ardchoille> kelvin911: Ship It will send you a free cd
[06:00] <scottz> kelvin911: pm me your address I will mail you one
[06:00] <roshank> Panarchy: sorry i wasnt sure. i tihnk what you'r trying to do is get a persistent install or something like that although i dont remember the name very well. i remember reading about how to do it on lifehacker a while back
[06:00] <ardchoille> !shipit | kelvin911
[06:01] <Panarchy> I was wondering if anyone knew how I could save my settings (and customisations) for when I create a LiveCD? So far, I have been able to save a custom wallpaper, custom applications and custom desktop icons... but I need to be able to save: Which panel icons appear (and don't appear), which WINE applications I have installed & what firefox extensions (addons) that I have installed. Any help with this would be appreciated.
[06:01] <kelvin911> but i miss the 8.04 version
[06:01] <kelvin911> they ship me 8.10
[06:01] <Panarchy> roshank: just to repeat the question
[06:01] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> you are re-mastering the liveCD ?
[06:01] <Panarchy> kelvin911, I think you might still be able to get it delivered
[06:01] <Panarchy> n8tuser: Yes
[06:01] <kelvin911> how to order 8.04 versiin?
[06:01] <scottz> cd adaptec
[06:01] <e-frame> mmcji: does links2 support milti tab ?
[06:01] <Panarchy> n8tuser, I installed it via VMWare, then used remastersys to create a custom liveCD
[06:02] <Panarchy> but as you see in my previous post
[06:02] <Panarchy> some setting/customisation weren't saved to the LiveCD
[06:02] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> follow their tutorial, am sure it have verbage onhow to copy those setings
[06:02] <Panarchy> 3 things: Firefox Addons, WINE applications & panel icons
[06:02] <Panarchy> n8tuser: Which tutorial?
[06:03] <n8tuser> !remaster | Panarchy
[06:03] <mmcji> I do not know.  I do know that I used links2 to successfully login to my links ap which required javascript.  it was not pretty, but it worked.  I have not fiddled with it since replacing the linksys firmware with dd-wrt a few years ago.
[06:03] <Panarchy> Thanks n8tuser, I'll have a look through those guides
[06:03] <roshank> Panarchy: I think this is what you're talking about. http://lifehacker.com/software/linux-tip/make-an-ubuntu-backup-live-cddvd-with-remastersys-330181.php
[06:04] <roshank> is anyone here good with webcam drivers?
[06:05] <Panarchy> n8tuser: The dell guide you posted, does that also help with non-dell comps?
[06:05] <mmcji> Panarchy: I have remastered several versions of ubuntu, but I never used remastersys.  I do not think the normal ubuntu docs cover specifically what you are trying to do.
[06:06] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> i have not used it myself, i assume it applies to non-dell pc's
[06:06] <mmcji> so looking at the remastersys docs is a good idea
[06:07] <Panarchy> n8tuser: ok
[06:07] <Panarchy> mmcji: Have you been able to acheive what I am trying to acheive?
[06:07] <mmcji> no
[06:08] <mmcji> but i just right click on the desktop with xfce4 installed and have my apps that way
[06:09] <mmcji> and i was really just looking for terminal, vnc and nano
[06:09] <Panarchy> mmcji: That's exactly the feature I don't want
[06:09] <Panarchy> (about right-clicking to see list of programs)
[06:10] <mmcji> sure, if you figure it out, i would love to know how you did it.
[06:10] <Panarchy> of course!
[06:10] <Panarchy> I've only posted it on 2 forums so far though
[06:11] <Panarchy> do you recommend any other I should post it on?
[06:11] <Panarchy> so far done ubuntuforums & linuxquestions
[06:12] <wandana> Someone knows how to work with xvidcap
[06:12] <mmcji> those are good, for livecd stuff the slax folks are good sources if into too, and i always check gentoo docs as well
[06:12] <hai> I am getting the following error "X Errorof failed request: Bad value" while ruuning an application in projector. but the same works fine in normal monitor.How to solve this.......
[06:13] <questnn> exit
[06:14] <mmcji> it's my bedtime all, nite nite
[06:14] <loke> When dubble clicking the top frame of a window in ubuntu, the window colapses, though I want it to change states between maximized/minimized just like windooze, how?
[06:16] <rodolfo> guys, I'm looking for an app that can extract audio from a DVD file, does anyone know some?
[06:16] <Flannel> loke: If you go to system > preferences > windows, you can choose between behaviors
[06:17] <loke> flannel, no changes there
[06:17] <loke> I do got emerald and compiz fuzion if that has anything to do with it
[06:17] <wit_273> How can I configure the guest account defaults?  I would like to setup a few options like web browser start page when the temporary guest account is logged into
[06:18] <DavyZ> hello
[06:19] <DavyZ> when i watch streaming videos online and when i fullscrean the video it unmaximizes itself
[06:19] <nedwell> With Ubuntu 8.10 and AMD64 I occasionally run into packages that alert "Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'".  I've seen various posts, but can someone advise the recommended way to be able to run i386 programs on an AMD64?
[06:19] <DavyZ> can anyone tell me the problem I have here
[06:20] <Panarchy> nedwell
[06:20] <Panarchy> you have downloaded the wrong CD
[06:20] <Panarchy> download the 64-bit version
[06:20] <kelvin911> loke change to compiz if u want
[06:21] <nedwell> I have installed AMD64 version of Ubuntu 8.10.  The problem is that I occasionally run into software that doesn't offer an x64 .deb file.
[06:21] <Rave1_> Is my total loss of open office after the recent update wide spread or is it just me.
[06:21] <tux9778> hello what else do i need for wine in 8.10?
[06:22] <wit_273> Davy, I have the same issue when I change the volume while watching a fullscreen video.  I have to use the volume control built into the video player.  If should only revert from fullscreen if you hit escape.  Not sure why volume would do this.  Not sure if that helps at all either.
[06:23] <Panarchy> nedwell
[06:23] <Panarchy> which software?
[06:23] <wit_273> Is there away in XChat to hide joined/left messages?  It is really annoying trying to follow a conversation with all the join/parts/
[06:23] <lagann_> DavyZ, that's because you have the screensaver enabled
[06:24] <nedwell> Gnaural2, for one (gnaural.souceforge.net)
[06:25] <Acedio> Has anyone ever had a problem with not being able to use Ctrl-Tab in rxvt? I can't seem to get it too work...
[06:25] <nedwell> I've run into issues with Flash, but found and installed a fix (although sometimes it doesn't load and I have to refresh the web page to get flash to load up)
[06:26] <Panarchy> nedwell
[06:26] <Panarchy> what does that program do?
[06:26] <nedwell> It is a brainwave entrainment device
[06:26] <Panarchy> ok
[06:26] <tux9778> nedwell have u installed the restriced codecs
[06:26] <Panarchy> well sorry, can't help you there
[06:27] <nedwell> thanks anyways
[06:27] <sancho21> I hate flashplugin-nonfree for amd64. It eats my memory tooooo much. Any other alternatives?
[06:27] <DarkKnight> hey how do i get a password lock for a particular file
[06:28] <lagann_> sancho21, if you're running on 8.4 or newer, I suggest you get the flash player from tis official site.
[06:28] <lagann_> tis = its
[06:28] <wit_273> Does anyone know how I can configure the guest account in 8.10?
[06:30] <khmer42> Which is the correct directory to store folders needed by an application? /usr/lib?
[06:30] <scientes> i cant get a lvm partitoin mounted in ubuntu 8.10
[06:30] <scientes> i tried loading all the dm_ mods i could and still unrecognized file system type
[06:31] <aravindubuntu> hi..  i am using hardy in my XPS1530 laptop, but fans are not coming up automatically
[06:31] <aravindubuntu> please help
[06:31] <scientes> try turning off acpi ?
[06:31] <scientes> and then try google?
[06:32] <loke> Im using compiz fuzion, so when I do system/preferences/windows and change the double click titlebar option, no changes are made. How do I get this in windooze style? (Who uses this fold-up thingie on double click anyways?)
[06:33] <mantispa1m> Hi guys. I can't get past low resolution on Ibis with an nvidia card and it's attendant driver. In nvidia-settings, there are only two resolution options, and the hightest is 640x480.
[06:34] <mantispa1m> Anyone know how to get higher res with an nvidia card?
[06:35] <kornejo> hi can some one help me pls im trying to play a dvd on ubuntu 10 i already have the codecs installed but when i try to play it i got a message that says "Could not read from source"
[06:35] <ddgoose> aravindubuntu, try -> i8kctl fan 2 2
[06:35] <lagann_> kornejo, what codecs did you install?
[06:35] <aravindubuntu> hi ddgoose
[06:35] <aravindubuntu> thank u
[06:36] <aravindubuntu> i wil try
[06:36] <scientes> i tried loading all the dm_ mods i could and still unrecognized file system type
[06:36] <scientes> i cant get a lvm partitoin mounted in ubuntu 8.10
[06:36] <kornejo> the ones that mplayer said
[06:36] <lagann_> !dvd | kornejo
[06:37] <trickydick> hallo, I'm getting a grub error 17 on my dual boot computer. Can someone help?
[06:37] <scientes> i friggen made this lvm2 encrypted with ubuntu and it wont mount on ubuntu what is wrong with this
[06:38] <aravindubuntu> ddgoose i dont have i8kctl installed
[06:39] <sudobash> earlier I accidentally booted my Ubuntu partition in VMPlayer and it sent everything into Read Only mode... I ran FSCK from recovery and it fixed most of it... but I am getting read only on network config so I can change it... I had to ipconfig and sudo route add default gw 10.10.10.1 just to get online...
[06:40] <ddgoose> aravindubuntu, install i8kutils
[06:40] <aravindubuntu> ok thanks
[06:40] <sudobash> Updating connection failed: nm-ifupdown-connection.c.82 - connection update not supported (read-only)..
[06:40] <foss> salam
[06:40] <foss> hi
[06:42] <sancho21> lagann_ I'm afraid the adobe-official flash plugin doesn't run on ubuntu hardy amd64
[06:42] <sancho21> I've see the package info
[06:42] <paul68> hi is there in this iptables script a reason why my port 53 is blocked? http://paste.ubuntu.com/76904/   and what do I have to do solve it?
[06:43] <trickydick> is there a way to install grub only via the live cd? I appear to have accidentally removed my grub from my MBR
[06:43] <IdleOne> !fixgrub
[06:43] <rdw200169> what up paul68
[06:44] <qlpzxx> hi
[06:44] <scientes> mount: unknown filesystem type 'crypto_LUKS'
[06:44] <scientes> mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[06:45] <scientes> i made these in ubuntu
[06:45] <sudobash> this is so cool once i got it though.... Im booting my windows partition in VMPlayer
[06:45] <scientes> with tha alternate installer
[06:45] <scientes> nothing custom
[06:45] <sudobash> Updating connection failed: nm-ifupdown-connection.c.82 - connection update not supported (read-only)..
[06:45] <sudobash> anyone know how to fix that?
[06:45] <trickydick> thanks IdleOne
[06:45] <ddgoose> paul68, are you able to ssh with that script?
[06:45] <justizin1> sorry, my wifi encountered interference or something.  in case someone answered me, or otherwise, my question was: hello, i installed ubuntu ibex into a xen vm, and i'm having trouble accessing the virtual cd/dvd drive, it sounds like i should have used a template which enabled paravirtualized hardware, but i wonder if there is any known solution to what i'm facing now which doesn't require a reinstall or some configuration change on
[06:47] <wit_273> Is there a way to customize the guest account in 8.10?
[06:47] <justizin1> if a user can login, it should have a profile wit_273
[06:47] <justizin1> login as guest, open a shell, type 'whoami', and 'pwd' and work from there.  it may be setup to discard settings on logout if it's super guest-y, i dont know the specifics..
[06:47] <justizin1> where there's a will, there's a way..
[06:48] <lagann_> sancho21, "Adobe is working on Flash Player support for 64-bit platforms as part of our ongoing commitment to the cross-platform compatibility of Flash Player. We expect to provide native support for 64-bit platforms in an upcoming release of Flash Player following Flash Player 10." That's what they say.
[06:48] <scientes> 64-bti is released
[06:49] <scientes> sancho21, http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/11/17/168212&from=rss
[06:49] <wit_273> In 8.10 there is a guest account that can be access through user switcher--it creates a new account each time a deletes all settings once the account logs out.  I am wanting to configure the account, but I do not know where it pulls the defaults from--does anyone know this?
[06:49] <scientes> wit_273, edit /etc/skel
[06:49] <aravindubuntu> hi ddgoose , when i tried i8kctl fan 2 2 , i got this output "can't open /proc/i8k: No such file or directory
[06:49] <aravindubuntu> "
[06:49] <sudobash> anyone know how to fix this?
[06:49] <sudobash> Updating connection failed: nm-ifupdown-connection.c.82 - connection update not supported (read-only)..
[06:49] <scientes> all user directories come from there wit_273
[06:50] <karllenz87> hey i need some help im running mint...i need to get 2 monitors running off of 2 different cards
[06:50] <karllenz87> anyone know what i could do?
[06:50] <_mak> how can i send all internet requests from my local network (eth0) to the internet interface (eth1), with the exception of the requests to the 10.0.0.0 network, which must be sent to the vpn connection (tun0)?
[06:50] <chetnick> is there any way to boot in textual mode live cd to restore grub. Live cd wont boot in GUI on my tablet pc. I had to use alternate cd to install.
[06:50] <Flannel> chetnick: try letting it boot, then hitting ctrl-alt-f1
[06:51] <binMonkey> hi.  i just bought a linksys router, 192.168.1.1  my dsl modem, 192,168.0.1, plugs into it.  should i change the address on the dsl to match the router?
[06:51] <trickydick> find /boot/grub/stage=1 and find /grub/stage1 is giving me Error 15: File not found IdleOne :(
[06:51] <wit_273> Where would it pull the defualt firefox settings from?  .mozilla is not in the /etc/skel directory.  It could be that I just need to edit the defaults for firefox that when a user first opens firefox.  Where would I find those settings?
[06:52] <chetnick> hahhahah trickydick also restoring grub :)
[06:52] <sudobash> anyone?
[06:52] <trickydick> chetnick, yeah :( I think I'm not sure what to do at this point lol
[06:52] <Flannel> wit_273: firefox creates them when it first starts, probably /usr/share/ something.  Might have to ask #firefox on irc.mozilla.org
[06:52] <trickydick> chetnick, I can't loose my windows install, I've not backed it up :(
[06:52] <scientes> mount: unknown filesystem type 'crypto_LUKS'
[06:52] <chetnick> trickydick: i wish i am where you are. i cant boot in gui live cd, and there is not text option.
[06:52] <scientes> mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[06:53] <scientes> i cant get a lvm partitoin mounted in ubuntu 8.10
[06:53] <trickydick> chetnick, yeah, I'm in ibex live cd right now and my display is soooo huge I can't see anything nearly.
[06:53] <chetnick> trickydick: are you in grub menu ?
[06:53] <trickydick> chetnick, I don't think grub is on here anymore :(
[06:54] <chetnick> trickydick: hold up i will help you restore grub... but if you are trying to save windows
[06:54] <wit_273> I just want to use a custom home page for the guest account.  Thanks for your help.  I will go digging further and then check with #firefox.  I figured it might be something with Ubuntu since its defualt is the Ubuntu's custom google search.
[06:54] <frapzzt> hi when i try to push the defaultgateway via openvpn and i am connectod with a ppp0 device to the internet openvpn cant push the default route only the following error ist displayed  NOTE: unable to redirect default gateway -- Cannot read current default gateway from system
[06:54] <trickydick> chetnick, I keep getting "File not found" when following the forums guides
[06:54] <chetnick> trickydick: is it vista or xp?
[06:54] <trickydick> chetnick, XP
[06:55] <chetnick> trickydick: and you want to be able to boot back in xp?
[06:55] <trickydick> chetnick, yes heh :)
[06:55] <chetnick> trickydick: if that dont work, there is another option, do you have xp install disk?
[06:55] <trickydick> chetnick, yes :)
[06:56] <chetnick> ok, boot it up and when windows setup load, go to recovery console
[06:56] <NsOmNiAc> anyone know if a bug report was filed on Intrepid install not seeing Samba shared and Windows shared drives ?
[06:56] <phreck> Sup everyone
[06:56] <phreck> nope, no idea on samba
[06:56] <chetnick> trickydick: it is going to ask you for admin password. once you are in, just type fixboot and fixmbr, and than exit and reboot. that will give you back XP :)
[06:58] <trickydick> chetnick, heh ok, is there a way to get into recovery?
[06:58] <trickydick> chetnick, I'm booting with xp cd now just not sure how to enable recovery mode :S
[06:58] <paul68> ddgoose: not able to do ssh
[06:59] <chetnick> trickydick: it should be few options, install windows, recover windows or something like that.
[06:59] <suigeneris> trickydick, f2
[06:59] <trickydick> chetnick, ah ok :)
[06:59] <chetnick> trickydick: recovery is what you need
[07:00] <chetnick> trickydick: you dont need new install .... i dont remember exactly how the menu looks, but you will see somewhere recover
[07:00] <ddgoose> paul68, where did you get that script?
[07:01] <trickydick> chetnick, I think it's "R" :) I'm checking now, just waiting for it to load.
[07:01] <paul68> ddgoose: I made it with a little help
[07:01] <joshux> !acpi
[07:01] <chetnick> trickydick: yes that should be it.
[07:01] <ddgoose> paul68, so INT_NET and EXT_NET are set proper?
[07:01] <paul68> ddgoose: yes they are
[07:02] <_mak> how can i route all local network(eth0 - 192.168.0.0)  requests to the 10.0.0.0 network into to the tun0 (vpn) interface?
[07:02] <ddgoose> paul68, This box is a nat router?
[07:03] <chetnick> anybody know how to boot livecd in text mode?
[07:03] <paul68> ddgoose: yes it is my lan is behind eth1 and my wan is at eth0
[07:04] <trickydick> chetnick, heh thanks, I atleast have my Mac install coming up which should get me going to backup my Windows partition :)
[07:05] <chetnick> trickydick: you are installing mac on PC?
[07:05] <kc8pxy> how do i get java webstart to be a normal sun 1.6 ?
[07:05] <trickydick> chetnick, yeah, I work for Apple. I had Ubuntu and XP installed previously and dropped my ubuntu partition to use for my Mac install but lost grub.
[07:06] <chetnick> trickydick: is Mac OS X any good on PC?
[07:07] <flourish> hello, need help. Is there a book or a guide about chroot. I found just little manuals about chroot on the web
[07:07] <trickydick> chetnick, yeah, it's stable as any Mac install. It's not linux themed like Mac or anything, it's actually Mac :)
[07:07] <kc8pxy> flourish:  what bits do you need to know?
[07:07] <chetnick> trickydick: cool will try that :)
[07:08] <cube> !eyeos
[07:08] <trickydick> chetnick, I have OS 10.5.5 running fully with a Dell Optiplex 755 :D
[07:08] <flourish> kc8pxy: mostly things about chroot:-)
[07:08] <kc8pxy> flourish:  what are you missing?
[07:08] <LoveGuru> trickydick: well MAC just for apple machine right ?
[07:08] <trickydick> LoveGuru, no, I support the Intel Mac division at Apple.
[07:09] <flourish> kc8pxy: I just found howto use chroot to recure system with livecd
[07:09] <vladtsepesh1984> hi guy....i have a problem...i have a terratec 7.1 pci audio card...and i use the spdif (optical) in winzoz.....i wuold like to use the spdif optical also in ubuntu....what i have to do?
[07:09] <dnyy> I guess this is an extremely general question, but is there any reason ubuntu 8.10 would be running so slow/freezing on my Compaq Presario v5000
[07:09] <konglingyun> #ubuntu-cn
[07:09] <flourish> kc8pxy: and ssh with chroot but with patch
[07:10] <ntndo> uh, how can I make a link to a root folder?
[07:10] <ntndo> I've got a linked folder made, but I can't drag it to the desktop
[07:10] <kc8pxy> flourish:  .... what are you tryiung to use chroot for?
[07:10] <phreck> i have a bigger problem , i have a dell.
[07:10] <phreck> wtf drivers do i use for my webcam and biometrics
[07:10] <ddgoose> paul68, it looks right, I would have to setup a vmware lab to to test it though.
[07:11] <vladtsepesh1984> hi guy....i have a problem...i have a terratec 7.1 pci audio card...and i use the spdif (optical) in winzoz.....i wuold like to use the spdif optical also in ubuntu....what i have to do?
[07:11] <Mstnt> 你不是两个合一起用了吧
[07:11] <flourish> kc8pxy: this time: heh, i want to learn howto compile some server apps  and configure them  ...
[07:12] <sexcopter> hi, i'm running intrepid, and on another continent my parents have an xp machine (home, not pro). it'd be really handy if i could tap in and retrieve my music collection, and i'm wondering, is this what ssh is for? Heard of it, never used it...
[07:12] <kc8pxy> flourish:  why would compiling server apps in chroot be different than in a regular root?
[07:13] <vladtsepesh1984> hi guy....i have a problem...i have a terratec 7.1 pci audio card...and i use the spdif (optical) in winzoz.....i wuold like to use the spdif optical also in ubuntu....what i have to do?
[07:13] <ddgoose> !cn | Mstnt
[07:13] <relisys> Hello. No matter what i try my ubuntu will not play my DVD.   my system already froze4 times while trying. What can be the problem?
[07:13] <paul68> ddgoose: I thought so to but its complaining about the ssh and the dns
[07:14] <relisys> Any assitance please?
[07:14] <vladtsepesh1984> hi guy....i have a problem...i have a terratec 7.1 pci audio card...and i use the spdif (optical) in winzoz.....i wuold like to use the spdif optical also in ubuntu....what i have to do?
[07:14] <flourish> kc8pxy: A good question! Why i don't like to use a regular root? I don't know, :-)
[07:14] <relisys> Hello. No matter what i try my ubuntu will not play my DVD.   my system already froze4 times while trying. What can be the problem?
[07:15] <flourish> kc8pxy: maybe i think chroot is a useful technique and i want to master it
[07:15] <flourish> kc8pxy: can you help me
[07:15] <terr_> can linux support two or more KB's on the same machine?
[07:15] <kc8pxy> flourish:  go do a manual install of gentoo, if you want first-hand experience getting good at using chroot.
[07:16] <flourish> kc8pxy: I have installed gentoo for many time manually :-)
[07:16] <ddgoose> !Repeat | vladtsepesh1984
[07:16] <flourish> kc8pxy: I just knew howto chroot in a new enviroment
[07:17] <flourish> kc8pxy: by installing gentoo
[07:17] <kc8pxy> flourish: what the heck more do you need to know about chroot then? (spidey sense tingling)
[07:19] <flourish> kc8pxy: run server with chroot
[07:19] <kc8pxy> n a jail?
[07:21] <DavyZ> is there a way to make a irc shell?
[07:21] <phreck> uhh
[07:22] <ddgoose> DavyZ, what do you mean?
[07:23] <lagann_> does DavyZ mean how to make and her own IRC server?
[07:23] <stee> could anyone tell me how toe tell if my computer recognizes my Hauppauge USB TV Tuner?
[07:24] <ddgoose> stee, which card is it?
[07:24] <stee> Hauppauge WinTV HVR 950Q
[07:24] <chetnick> does anybody know how to boot live cd in text mode?
[07:26] <lagann_> chetnick, did you get the alternative livecd?
[07:26] <stee> !alternative live cd
[07:26] <stee> !alternative livecd
[07:26] <chetnick> lagann_: i did, but i dont want to install, i need to restore grub, because it wont boot in gui.
[07:27] <stee> ddgoose do you think you can help me?
[07:27] <chetnick> i need something that will give me an option to boot live cd in text mode
[07:27] <chetnick> i am sure you can pass a boot option for text mode, but i cant figure it out what is it.
[07:27] <laobing> #ubuntu-cn
[07:28] <bdizzle> hey, question for the developers
[07:28] <kc8pxy> how do i install the 32-bit sun javaws on a 64-bit system?
[07:28] <somethingclever> anyone know how to install wifi drivers via terminal?
[07:28] <stee> could anyone tell me how toe tell if my computer recognizes my Hauppauge USB TV Tuner?
[07:29] <paul68> ddgoose: could dns be the reason that also my ssh isn't working? in my opinion it should not interfear however I am not that familliar with linux security
[07:29] <somethingclever> ddgoose, still nothing, DAMN
[07:29] <chetnick> ddgoose: if you are ssh user@domain.name it probably wont work if your dns is no good.
[07:30] <chetnick> ddgoose: try ssh  user@ip.addres if it works, than you know that is dns
[07:30] <co-basket> co_Basket
[07:30] <ddgoose> chetnick, huh?
[07:30] <chetnick> ddgoose: heheh:)... maybe i didnt uderstand your problem :)
[07:31] <ddgoose> chetnick, oh @ paul68. He is the one with the dns/ssh issue :)
[07:31] <chetnick> :)
[07:31] <ddgoose> somethingclever, still nothing?
[07:31] <j42o> hai
[07:31] <paul68> chetnick: you have not addressed the right person and sorry to say the ssh is in through the iptables that is causing problems
[07:32] <chetnick> ddgoose: i see now, i typed wrong nick :)
[07:32] <j42o> does anyone have an ati hd 2600 series???
[07:32] <ddgoose> stee, check -> http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=965968
[07:33] <ramon> hello i am trying to upgrade hardy but it says authentication failed and i cant change the software source cause is stock to a loop...what should i do?
[07:33] <relisys> Hello. No matter what i try my ubuntu will not play my DVD.   my system already froze4 times while trying. What can be the problem?
[07:33] <relisys> someone please help me resolve this
[07:33] <paul68> !patience relisys
[07:34] <paul68> !patience |relisys
[07:34] <ddgoose> paul68, what is the dns server ip you are using?
[07:34] <relisys> iam asking the same question 4 times in past 40 minutes
[07:34] <relisys> iam being very patient
[07:34] <ramon> paul68 hello i am trying to upgrade hardy but it says authentication failed and i cant change the software source cause is stock to a loop...what should i do?
[07:34] <relisys> just need help
[07:34] <paul68> ddgoose: is on the same box
[07:35] <paul68> ramon:  ask the chanel and be patient
[07:35] <paul68> relisys: we all do need help or assistance however its not wise impose
[07:36] <partition> So...I have kind of a strange problem.  I was trying to mount my ipod to /mnt/ipod instead of /media/disk, and, after learning that you can't put /'s in the string-only key value.  So I opened the registry editor, unmounted my ipod, and accidentally unmounted my harddrive.  I am now running another copy of ubuntu on a 50-50 partition on my harddrive.  How do I remount the first half of my hdd?
[07:36] <ddgoose> paul68, do you really need a nat rule for dns then if you are pointing your internal boxes to that internal interface and not traversing the nat?
[07:36] <relisys> ok ill just wait i guess   :(
[07:38] <paul68> ddgoose yes I do need a nat rule otherwhise it wont pass through towards the internal network and for that reason I can't get out on the internet either
[07:39] <Popescu> how can i start ssh please on port 22 ?
[07:39] <partition> So...I have kind of a strange problem.  I was trying to mount my ipod to /mnt/ipod instead of /media/disk, and, after learning that you can't put /'s in the string-only key value.  So I opened the registry editor, unmounted my ipod, and accidentally unmounted my harddrive.  I am now running another copy of ubuntu on a 50-50 partition on my harddrive.  How do I remount the first half of my hdd?
[07:40] <nillerz> Hello! Does anyone know how to change the default file manager? I want to use Dolphin
[07:40] <Liqunantoru> lly
[07:40] <Popescu> how can i start ssh please on port 22 ?
[07:40] <ravn> hey ppl, I have a problem with my new ubuntu install: After suspension the sound does not work. Rythmbox hangs. Anyone has any idea of where to start. It does not crash or anything, it just does not play any music... Seems there is something strange with the soundcard or something...
[07:40] <paul68> Popescu: ssh username@yourip  should be sufficient
[07:40] <nillerz> ravn: does Pidgin work while this happens/
[07:41] <paul68> Popescu: when you are on an internal network
[07:41] <Popescu> paul68 i have ubuntu linux and i want to openssh
[07:41] <paul68> Popescu: see previous remark
[07:41] <Popescu> paul68 no you don`t understand me
[07:41] <macpo31> I get several messages "Unknown media type in type 'blah/blah'" every time I run an apt-get install ort upgrade, 'blah/blah' seems to be each of the following: 'all/all', 'all/allfiles', 'uri/mms', 'uri/mmst', 'uri/mmsu', 'uri/pnm', 'uri/rtspt', 'uri/rtspu', 'fonts/package', 'interface/x-winamp-skin'. Any ideas?
[07:41] <Popescu> paul68 i want to start ssh22
[07:42] <paul68> Popescu: ssh is standard on port 22
[07:42] <ravn> nillerz: well, pidgin is running, but also pidgin is a bit problematic after suspension since I can not connect to stuff (like here) it taked some 10 minutes before pidgin works also, but it is running...
[07:42] <Popescu> paul68 I want to connect to Ubuntu by PuTTY from another computer but now says connection refused
[07:43] <ikonia> Popescu: install the package openssh-server
[07:43] <macpo31> is ssh daemon started
[07:43] <paul68> Popescu: what are you typing in putty
[07:43] <Popescu> Ip port 22 ssh and i click open
[07:43] <Popescu> and type Connection refused
[07:43] <ikonia> Popescu: install the package openssh-server
[07:43] <partition> What's the terminal command to show mount points?
[07:43] <Popescu> ikonia tank you...
[07:43] <ikonia> Popescu: mount
[07:44] <ikonia> Popescu: sorry mount wasn't for you
[07:44] <ikonia> partition: mount
[07:44] <paul68> Popescu: can it be that port 22 is blocked by your ISP once you are outside your network?
[07:44] <hischild> Popescu, make sure you also select SSH in putty. Putty doesn't always default to SSH.
[07:44] <partition> ikonia, I accidentally unmounted my harddrive.
[07:44] <partition> ikonia, I partitioned a new version of ubuntu
[07:45] <Popescu> This was, I had openssh-server, but no one besides ikonia did not know I say, that's the problem
[07:45] <ikonia> partition: sudo mount -a will remount everything in the fstab
[07:45] <ddgoose> paul68, did you mean to mix tcp and udp in your rules?
[07:45] <partition> ikonia, fstab?
[07:45] <ddgoose> paul68, you need both tcp and udp port 53 for the dns rules
[07:45] <hischild> partition, everything that is mounted at boot time is written in fstab. That command will mount it all again.
[07:45] <ikonia> Popescu: sudo /etc/initd/ssh start
[07:46] <ddgoose> paul68, one has tcp other has udp
[07:46] <ramon> hello i am trying to upgrade hardy but it says authentication failed and i cant change the software source cause is stock to a loop...what should i do?
[07:46] <ikonia> partition: that is where you mount points are defined
[07:46] <ddgoose> paul68, that may be the issue
[07:46] <hischild> ikonia, isn't that /etc/init.d/ssh ? (the dot)
[07:46] <ikonia> ramon thats not how you upgrade
[07:46] <paul68> ddgoose: I thought dns had only udp and not tcp
[07:46] <partition> hischild, now how do I select the old portion of my harddrive to boot?
[07:46] <ikonia> hischild: correct, lag dropped the dot
[07:46] <Popescu> ikonia don`t need sudo, i have user root
[07:46] <paul68> ddgoose: will look into it
[07:46] <hischild> Popescu, don't use the root account.
[07:46] <ddgoose> paul68, it listens on both, but still you have those 2 rules and one has udp the other has tcp
[07:46] <ikonia> Popescu: thats not wise
[07:46] <ikonia> p	but your call
[07:47] <ramon> ikonia i do have two issues...but you can tell me...anyways the system is stock in a loop
[07:47] <partition> ikonia, now how do I select the old portion of my harddrive to boot?
[07:47] <hischild> partition, i'm sorry, i haven't followed the entire discussion. I explained what Ikonia was saying.
[07:47] <Popescu> hischild why ?
[07:47] <ikonia> ramon what loop ?
[07:47] <paul68> ddgoose: ok understood
[07:47] <ikonia> Popescu: you do that with grub
[07:47] <hischild> !root | Popescu
[07:47] <ramon> ikonia failed to connect to the source
[07:48] <partition> hischild, I just remounted the now partition of my harddrive.  I want the computer to boot with that partition, the one I'm not using now which has all my stuff on it.
[07:48] <ikonia> ramon as I said that not how you upgrade
[07:48] <ikonia> RoosterJuice: control + c will cancel any terminal command
[07:48] <ikonia> ramon: control + c will cancel any terminal command
[07:48] <ddgoose> lol RoosterJuice
[07:48] <Popescu> I am not interested if I bulesc something you install again and ready, using the Ubuntu wmware workstation and save important data in it
[07:49] <Barnabas> Romans: Chapter 10 verse 9-10-13 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be Saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto Salvation. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be Saved....
[07:49] <ramon> ikonia when you upgrade any of the tools go to this previous job pending
[07:49] <Flannel> Barnabas: Please stop that
[07:49] <hischild> partition, was there another person on the channel helping you before? There is more to tell. Why do you want to boot from this hard disk? You can still access all your data from Ubuntu.
[07:49] <Popescu> who will be here knows how to make ircd and gnuworld?
[07:49] <ikonia> ramon: you need to put your sources back to default and follow the proper upgrade path
[07:49] <Popescu> who will be here knows how to make ircd and gnuworld on ubuntu ?
[07:50] <hischild> Popescu, why not ask the question and find out.
[07:50] <partition> hischild, in this partition I don't have access to any of my music, my saved settings, programs, or anything.  Also, I just want to go back to my old account and delete this partition that I'm on
[07:50] <Popescu> hischild 	
[07:50] <Popescu> I did not understand what you wanted to say
[07:50] <ramon> ikonia i when i try to change it goes to the same previous check for packages and then give me a error
[07:51] <ikonia> ramon sounds like your've started a upgrade in a bad way, and it's gone too far to back out so has to finish
[07:51] <partition> hischild, I accidentally unmounted my harddrive trying to unmount my syntax-errored ipod mount point
[07:51] <theCzar> hey, i'm trying to make a flash drive version of ubuntu, i've tried a few ways, most recently using the builtin function in 8.10.  but i can't get it to boot at all.  I've changed my settings in the BIOS, but nothing happens.  I even dissabled everything but that, and it still refuses to boot.  Any ideas?
[07:51] <hischild> partition, what is on that other partition then?
[07:51] <partition> hischild, created a 50-50 partition on my hdd with another version of ubuntu
[07:51] <ramon> ikonia is there any way to kill the process?
[07:51] <partition> hischild, my other ubuntu account, with all my stuff
[07:51] <hischild> Popescu, well what seems to be the problem with ircd and gnuworld? why won't you ask that question instead.
[07:52] <ikonia> ramon it depends what has been done to your machine, it's not a case of "killing" the process, it sounds like the upgrade may have started and gone beyond the point of no return which is why it wants to finish
[07:52] <Xtyn> theCzar: try unetbootin
[07:52] <hischild> partition, during installation it should have been recognized. Either you can copy all the things over by hand, or you can reboot and select the proper line in grub .
[07:53] <partition> k, ty!
[07:53] <hischild> theCzar, unetbootin has also my vote.
[07:53] <tim167> hi how can i get 'extend desktop to second monitor' ? thanks
[07:54] <ddgoose> +1 for unetbootin
[07:54] <hischild> ikonia, do you remember that i asked yesterday if you mind if i ask you for some more help with figuring out a script?
[07:54] <canthony> does anyone have experience with chroot/local sockets
[07:54] <theCzar> xtyn, hischild: ok i'll give it a whirl, thanks a bunch
[07:54] <ikonia> hischild something to do with cut ?
[07:55] <tat2thinbear> has anyone every installed a Palm Vx using a serial port on UBUNTU?
[07:55] <ikonia> tat2thinbear: the gnupilot tools may help
[07:55] <tat2thinbear> nope
[07:55] <tat2thinbear> won't sync per inst
[07:56] <sancho21> Anybody managed to install alpha native 64bit flash plugin in Ubuntu?
[07:56] <ikonia> tat2thinbear: gnupilot works with only certain models, check your model is supported
[07:56] <hischild> ikonia, yeah. I want to cut a line on the space before the word that ends with a : and i can't seem to find a way to do it. --> status: playing self: Anagantios artist: Eluveitie album: Slania length: 3:25 position: %54 [1:50]
[07:56] <Batsmasher> Hey, I'm having trouble with .deb packages because of Synpatic Package Manager, it say dpkg was interupted so I must manually run dpkg --configure -a to correct the problem, I'm unsure what I have to do...
[07:56] <tat2thinbear> good point
[07:56] <ikonia> hischild: stick it in a pastebin and pm me the link, I'm on a train so can't work with it now, however I 'll look when I get in the office
[07:56] <tat2thinbear> Vx should be suported
[07:56] <Xtyn> Batsmasher: in the terminal
[07:56] <ikonia> tat2thinbear: check it is supported - not should be
[07:57] <hischild> Batsmasher, go to applications, assecoires and open up terminal. Copy paste the line it gives you --> dpkg --configure -a <--- in there and hit enter.
[07:57] <hischild> Batsmasher, oh and precede it with sudo :-)
[07:57] <hischild> ikonia, will do.
[07:57] <canthony> i probly need to ask this in a more specific channel, but...  im trying to setup a chroot environment for all my services on a hosting server.  i want each user to have a vrtual directory with httpd/sshd/etc in there chroot enviroment.  i want apache/sshd/etc to run as the USER and not root (sshd mostly).  can i make the user daemons monitor a local unix socket in the chroot environment, and the real server monitor the TCP socke
[07:57] <canthony> ts?  an intelligent program would pass the connection to the apropriate users local socket for processing by the chrooted daemon?  is this possible?
[07:58] <ikonia> canthony: thats a massive bit of work
[07:58] <dnyy> Anyone know why Ubuntu 8.10 would be lagging so hard and freezing so often?  :/
[07:58] <rpop> faryshta, AidenXi
[07:58] <ikonia> canthony: user daemons interacting with virtual sockets linked to physical devices with different permissions, is not a quick task
[07:58] <Batsmasher> done, thanks hischild
[07:58] <ikonia> dnyy: probably due to graphics drivers, that is common
[07:58] <canthony> ikonia, does the concept seem sound at least?
[07:58] <ikonia> canthony: no
[07:58] <rpop> faryshta, AidenXi - i've solved my installer problem from yesterday
[07:59] <dnyy> ah, can I get drivers for on-board ATI? I tried on the last ubuntu and it'd never work. :/
[07:59] <Xtyn> dnyy: check in hardware drivers
[07:59] <toastedmilk> hischild, thanks!
[07:59] <dnyy> doesn't show up there :/
[07:59] <canthony> ikonia, do you have any other suggestions by chance.  i want all daemons/apps in the chrrot to be rootless
[07:59] <hischild> toastedmilk, hmm?
[07:59] <rpop> faryshta, AidenXi - it was a hardware configuration on IDE 0
[07:59] <ikonia> canthony: why do you need ssh running in a chroot ?
[08:00] <toastedmilk> hischild, toastedmilk=partition
[08:00] <hischild> toastedmilk, ah ok. NP
[08:00] <putra_k> perawat_co_sby
[08:00] <putra_k> dddd
[08:00] <putra_k> dd
[08:01] <hmw_> how can i get the amdcccle program, that comes with 8.10, when i have in 8.04?
[08:01] <danny_> hey looking for help>>> need to find sound drivers for a sony viao  pcgtr3a and web cam drivers for linux can anyone help?
[08:01] <danny_> cant find it on the web
[08:01] <danny_> need help
[08:01] <ikonia> dnyy: ubuntu should come with that already configured
[08:01] <canthony> ikonia, to force users to be chrooted to there respective folders.  i am runing a gento server and i know the latest ssh can handle chrooting but i want the daemon to also run as the user
[08:01] <ikonia> danny_: ubuntu should come with that already configured
[08:02] <danny_> it isnt
[08:02] <ikonia> canthony: you let the system ssh manage ssh, and just specify a chrooted shell, but as your running gentoo I suggest you ask in #gentoo
[08:02] <danny_> thats the probloem i dunno if its a hardware error then
[08:02] <dnyy> ikonia: was the to me and him, or just him?
[08:02] <ikonia> dnyy: him, sory
[08:02] <ikonia> sorry
[08:02] <danny_> yea i dunno either
[08:02] <danny_> all the updates r for xp or viwsta
[08:03] <danny_> ikonia: thanks anways
[08:03] <thyko> hi ppl
[08:03] <thyko> how can i change the default audio cd player?
[08:04] <Popescu> !root | thyko
[08:04] <hmw_> thyko in "preferred applications"
[08:04] <Popescu> !audio | thyko
[08:04] <Popescu> !player | thyko
[08:04] <bdizzle> KDE4 is utterly frustratingly annoying
[08:04] <Popescu> !ssh-server
[08:05] <Popescu> !openssh-server
[08:05] <hischild> Popescu, please don't do that.
[08:05] <ikonia> Popescu: what do want to know
[08:05] <thyko> Popescu: err ... audio player man, + sudo bash gives me a root shell
[08:05] <canthony> ikonia, yeah i am in both channels, more activity here.  im not sure of another channel to ask in
[08:06] <LoRdRapTuReZ> anyone
[08:06] <ikonia> canthony: not here really
[08:06] <LoRdRapTuReZ> here
[08:06] <Popescu> ikonia 	
[08:06] <Popescu> I want to know if you can install IRCD and GNUworld Ubuntu Desktop?
[08:06] <LoRdRapTuReZ> i need a help ????
[08:06] <hischild> !ask LoRdRapTuReZ
[08:06] <hischild> !ask | LoRdRapTuReZ
[08:06] <ikonia> Popescu: open synatpic package manager and search for them, see iif there are packages
[08:06] <LoRdRapTuReZ> ok i just install the ubuntu LTS
[08:06] <thyko> hmw_: i have tried, but it wont let me select amarok
[08:06] <LoRdRapTuReZ> 8.04
[08:06] <hischild> !enter | LoRdRapTuReZ
[08:06] <Popescu> ikonia synatpic package ? whre is this ?
[08:07] <Flannel> !synaptic | Popescu
[08:07] <ikonia> Popescu: synaptic paackage manager from the systems -> adminstration menu
[08:08] <LoRdRapTuReZ> !how to upgrade  from unbuntu8.04 Desktop to Unbuntu Server Edition 8.04 LTS | LoRdRapTuReZ
[08:08] <hischild> !upgrade | LoRdRapTuReZ
[08:08] <ikonia> LoRdRapTuReZ: you dn't do that
[08:08] <ikonia> LoRdRapTuReZ: what do you want out o the server edition that you don't have i n the desktop version
[08:08] <acp_> thyko, open a Home Folder -> Edit -> preference ->Media tab
[08:09] <PrePro_> hi everyone where is debian's updatedb database file location?
[08:09] <PrePro_> err, ubuntu
[08:10] <bdizzle> remind me again how to check all running processes from CLI?
[08:10] <ikonia> bdizzle: ps -ef
[08:10] <LoRdRapTuReZ> i have just finish install unbuntu .04
[08:10] <ikonia> LoRdRapTuReZ: yes you've said
[08:11] <LoRdRapTuReZ> i have just finish install unbuntu 8.04 and i found it was for desktop edition
[08:11] <ews> ews
[08:11] <sleepy_cat> which one is better 8.10 or 8.04
[08:11] <bdizzle> 8.04 for now
[08:11] <co-basket> cew_cute
[08:11] <ja660k> i still have 8.04
[08:11] <ikonia> LoRdRapTuReZ: the desktop edition is fine for servers
[08:11] <bdizzle> I just installed 8.10 and its a paint
[08:11] <bdizzle> *pain
[08:11] <sleepy_cat> y
[08:11] <ikonia> sleepy_cat: neither, depends on your needs and wants
[08:11] <ja660k> really?... how come?
[08:11] <bdizzle> the interface is pretty, but I can't get a damn thing to work
[08:11] <LoRdRapTuReZ> the what is the diifrent between desktop edition and server edition
[08:11] <bdizzle> internet works, thankfully, so thats a major headache avoided
[08:12] <hischild> bdizzle, please be more precise. we might be able to give you a hand?
[08:12] <Popescu> !gnuworld
[08:12] <ikonia> LoRdRapTuReZ: one is designed for enterprise class hardware, the opther is for home user hardware
[08:12] <bdizzle> I'm using Kubuntu 8.10, so it may not apply
[08:12] <sleepy_cat> ubuntu kubuntu xubuntu
[08:12] <LoRdRapTuReZ> hmm .... ok
[08:12] <sleepy_cat> which is better n y?
[08:13] <ikonia> sleepy_cat: none - it depends on YOUR personal preference
[08:13] <dnyy> Are there any guides online for making ubuntu run smoother?  Only ones I can find are for older versions. :/
[08:13] <bdizzle> I can't get adept to work properly, the lists of programs doesn't load and when it does, it often exhibits a "streaking" effect (think of wiping a window with wet print on it, it smears
[08:13] <ikonia> sleepy_cat: try them see what YOU like
[08:13] <bdizzle> so I've had to try to install everything from apt-get (annoying if I don't know the specific package names)
[08:13] <ikonia> bdizzle: most probably graphics driver issues
[08:14] <bdizzle> probably, the mouse isn't quite working either where its either nonresponsive or over-responsive
[08:14] <ikonia> bdizzle: probably due to graphic lag
[08:14] <ikonia> bdizzle: which is gaphics card driver
[08:14] <karllenz87> hey i need some help i just added to hdd's from my osx machine to my linux box and its tellimg me that im not the owner there for i cant open them?
[08:14] <ivan_> hi any idea why my music can't drag and drop in rhythmbox?
[08:14] <_mak> in my local network clients i have the gateway 192.168.0.1 configured, in the gateway i have: eth0 = 1291.68.0.1; eth1 = internet; tun0 = 10.0.0.* (vpn), what should i do in the gateway so the local clients when requesting a 10.*.*.* site can access it?
[08:14] <ivan_> sorry i mean with the ipod connected
[08:15] <bdizzle> I don't remember to be honest, what is the CLI again for it since I don't trust the mouse or system settings (already had to learn how to disable desktop effects from CLI in pre-boot
[08:17] <trooper2008> hello i have to install this file flashcam-1.2.tgz from my desktop how i do it?
[08:18] <hischild> If i login to a machine via remote, is it possible and if so, how is it possible when i use for example zenity to make the screen pop up on the remote PC?
[08:18] <toastedmilk> where the bonk do I go to change the number of workspaces?
[08:18] <trooper2008> how do i install this file flashcam-1.2.tgz from my desktop ?
[08:19] <hischild> read remote as in SSH
[08:19] <trooper2008> any helpers here?
[08:20] <trooper2008> !it
[08:21] <trooper2008> is help avaible?
[08:21] <LurkersA> trooper2008: Have you tried opening the file?
[08:21] <trooper2008> how i do that?
[08:22] <LurkersA> double click on it to open the archive manager
[08:22] <trooper2008> thanx
[08:22] <trooper2008> they helping me on italian chan if i fail ill come back thanx
[08:24] <eitri> Hi. I'm having troubles getting disconnected at my university. I believe it's supposed to be a wpa2 enterprise peap v2 and MSCHAPv2 wireless network. My problem is (I believe) that there is no PEAP v2 in ubuntu8.10. Does anyone know of a solution to this?
[08:27] <cew_cute> alow
[08:30] <eitri__> Sorry guys, I got disconnected. Did anyone tell me anything?
[08:31] <rdz> eitri, no answer so far
[08:31] <eitri__> ok, thanks
[08:31] <\slash> hey guys im trying to solve this problem.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/301756 .. i havent got a reply yet i was hoping someone could help me here?
[08:32] <bdizzle> what was it I needed to install to get DVDs to run from medibuntu?
[08:33] <ziroday> !dvd | bdizzle
[08:33] <ddgoose> toastedmilk, right click desktop switcher and choose properties
[08:33] <bdizzle> thanks
[08:35] <rdz> \slash, try once with mplayer. try different video outputs, such as '-vo gl' , '-vo xv' or '-vo x11'. probably you can use some of those as well with vlc. then you might know, whether it is a problem with a 3d frame buffer, or video overlay or whatsoever
[08:36] <ziroday> \slash: are you using compiz/3d effects?
[08:36] <\slash> no
[08:36] <\slash> i'll try rdz idea
[08:36] <ziroday> \slash: which driver?
[08:36] <\slash> err i forgot the command for that
[08:37] <ziroday> \slash: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:38] <\slash> something wrong with pastebin
[08:38] <\slash> lol
[08:38] <\slash> just my luck
[08:39] <ziroday> \slash: there are other sites, tried pastebin.com?
[08:39] <\slash> thats where i usually pastebin lol
[08:39] <ziroday> \slash: rafb.net
[08:40] <\slash> http://rafb.net/p/rDlpHi17.html
[08:40] <ddgoose> !paste | \slash
[08:41] <ziroday> \slash: you are using the propriatory amd/ati driver (fglrx)
[08:42] <\slash> yeah..
[08:42] <\slash> shouldnt that be the one?
[08:42] <ziroday> \slash: thats fine, and you are certain you are not running compiz?
[08:43] <\slash> ziroday to be honest i dont know what compiz is
[08:43] <\slash> im really new to this
[08:43] <\slash> so i doubt im running anything compiz lol
[08:43] <ziroday> \slash: okay. pastebin the output of ps ax | grep compiz please
[08:43] <Popescu> florin@florin-desktop:~/ircu2.10.12.12$ make install
[08:43] <Popescu> cd . && autoconf
[08:43] <Popescu> /bin/sh: autoconf: not found
[08:43] <Popescu> make: *** [configure] Error 127
[08:43] <chazco> Hi.. i have an Intel wifi card, using the iwl3945 driver. If I disable it using the hardware switch it becomes impossible to turn it back on with rmmod + modprobe'ing the driver. Any ideas? (Bluetooth is on the same switch, so it gets used quite a bit)
[08:43] <FloodBot2> Popescu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:43] <rdz> \slash, you can make sure to disable all desktop effects, by going to the start menu > system > preferences > appearnace
[08:44] <Vinceman> is it easy to change your ubuntu language?
[08:44] <\slash> http://rafb.net/p/1m0pxw54.html
[08:44] <\slash> looks like i have some compiz running
[08:44] <ziroday> Vinceman: yes
[08:44] <rdz> \slash, then go to the tab 'visual effects' and select 'none'
[08:44] <ddgoose> !compile | Popescu
[08:45] <ziroday> \slash: see if the issue is still there after disabling compiz please :)
[08:45] <\slash> err where is that exactly
[08:45] <\slash> im really new sorry
[08:46] <ddgoose> \slash, System->Preferences->Appearance
[08:46] <ziroday> \slash: sure, go to System > Preferences > Appearances. Go the the Visual Effects tab and click "None"
[08:46] <Popescu> i installed ircd-ircu but don`t know who is ircd.conf to edit please help me !
[08:47] <\slash> aight done
[08:47] <\slash> letme try
[08:47] <corgrath> Hey guys, got a quick question. Did 'Initiate Window Picker' get change with 8.10?
[08:47] <ziroday> Popescu: package name?
[08:47] <\slash> haha omg
[08:47] <Popescu> ziroday ircd-ircu
[08:47] <\slash> your a genius
[08:47] <\slash> it worked!!
[08:47] <\slash> thank you ziroday
[08:47] <\slash> thanks rdz
[08:48] <\slash> and goose
[08:48] <corgrath> changed*
[08:48] <ziroday> \slash: great, however you can't run compiz and videos together. there is a (possible) workaround and there is an easier way to switch between compiz and metacity. Want me to go through any of those with you?
[08:49] <\slash> yes please
[08:49] <\slash> if u dont mind
[08:49] <jbu311> does anyone else love ubuntu but hate the logo?
[08:49] <ziroday> \slash: sure, gimme a sec
[08:49] <ziroday> Popescu: its in /etc/ircd/ircd.conf
[08:49] <\slash> np
[08:49] <ddgoose> Popescu, try -> http://azio.org/2007/05/01/howto-configure-yourself-a-nice-private-ircd-irc-server/
[08:49] <magnetron> jbu311→ this the support channel. we give support, not rate logos.
[08:49] <\slash> ziro might u be able to help me with my sound problem as well?
[08:49] <Vinceman> ziroday? how easy?
[08:50] <ziroday> \slash: okay install the package compizconfig-settings-manager
[08:50] <\slash> when i have my speakers plugged in the sound works fine but when i unplug them.. laptop speakers dont work
[08:50] <Popescu> tank you ziroday
[08:50] <ziroday> Vinceman: its in System > Administration > Language Support
[08:50] <hischild> how can i redirect a website to a local page without interfering with the DNS?
[08:50] <ziroday> \slash: and fusion icon
[08:50] <ziroday> \slash: sorry fusion-icon
[08:51] <kkady32> Ubuntu 8.10 64 Z-STAR zc0303 webcam not work
[08:51] <\slash> installing..
[08:51] <\slash> 1 sec
[08:51] <ziroday> \slash: take your time :)
[08:51] <jbu311> magnetron, where do I rate logos?
[08:51] <ziroday> jbu311: you can vote for a change on brainstorm.ubuntu.com if you really feel its an important thing
[08:52] <jbu311> thanks
[08:52] <magnetron> jbu311→ join #ubuntu-offtopic and suggest new logos
[08:52] <\slash> ziro donee
[08:53] <ziroday> \slash: okay, now run ccsm and a window will popup
[08:53] <jbu311> magnetron, thanks
[08:53] <\slash> done
[08:53] <ziroday> \slash: and go down to Video Playback and make sure its enabled
[08:54] <loller> program with GTK support wich shows the TCP and UDP connections ?
[08:55] <\slash> its enabled
[08:56] <ziroday> \slash: okay, well thats the workaround and it didn't appear to work. The people in #compiz-fusion might know something else. Meanwhile there is a program called fusion-icon which puts a little icon in the notification area and it allows you to easily switch between compiz and metacity
[08:56] <darrend> I appear to have lost my update notification icon in the systray.  If I attempt to start it with 'update-notifier &' I get "Failed to initialise HAL".  This is only affecting my user account - any ideas?
[08:57] <ddgoose> my help-juice is depleted.. cya tomorrow o/
[08:57] <\slash> is it suppose to be disabled?
[08:57] <dnyy> Grr, my laptop will not quit freezing. :(
[08:57] <\slash> i just checked if it was enabled
[08:57] <\slash> where is the icon suppose to show
[08:58] <\slash> or what were we tryin to achieve
[08:58] <MrMist> I need some advanced tips... I want to "customize" one of the compile flags for a already-existing ubuntu program.. How do I approach this? I know of apt-get source and compilation in general, but I'm no apt expert. Anyone care to lead me in the right direction ?
[08:58] <hischild> !compile | MrMist
[08:59] <Ratchet--> I need to uninstall ubuntu for something, how can i go about this
[08:59] <rdz> Ratchet--, get a cd and boot from it
[08:59] <corgrath> Hey guys, got a quick question. Did 'Initiate Window Picker' get change with 8.10?
[08:59] <Ratchet--> not install, uninstall
[08:59] <rdz> Ratchet--, you don't even need to install it in order to test it
[09:00] <rdz> Ratchet--, sorry
[09:00] <MrMist> hischild: I know how to compile from tar.gz and general sources. I was more thinking about using "apt-get source" to acquire the source. Would you rather recommend fetching the .tar file ?
[09:00] <Ratchet--> np :P
[09:00] <Arnas> hello, how can I 'emulate' windows app and run in it Ubuntu 8.10 like through VNC or smth. - I have install VirtualBox, and WindowsXP on it, can I have a window for one application only ? I do not want to run everything in one window (virtualbox windowsxp) ?
[09:00] <rdz> Ratchet--, start from cd anyway and erase the partition
[09:00] <Arnas> *installed
[09:00] <Ratchet--> rdz:  thanks, i'll try that
[09:01] <DJones> Arnas: You could check out wine and see if the application can run under its compatibility layer - www.winehq.org that may let you run it under ubuntu
[09:01] <rdz> Ratchet--, you could do, what is often used as a joke: 'sudo rm -rf /'
[09:02] <rdz> this would erase all files from the filesystem
[09:02] <Flannel> !danger
[09:02] <Ratchet--> what command?
[09:02] <Flannel> Ratchet--: You don't need to "uninstall" you just need to repartition
[09:02] <DJones> Ratchet--: have you got another operating system on that computer?
[09:02] <Flannel> Ratchet--: What are you going to use the disk for besides Ubuntu?
[09:02] <rdz> Flannel, i know.... Ratchet-- asked me how to get rid of ubunut
[09:02] <Ratchet--> Windows
[09:02] <Flannel> rdz: Yes, and that command isn't useful.
[09:03] <calav3ra_> hi
[09:03] <Arnas> DJones: yeah tried under wine, but ran into some issues with .NET and IE compatability with that program, so BASICALLY I want to run that program emulating whole windows XP through VNC or some other method just for one program
[09:03] <Flannel> Ratchet--: Get a partitioner, and repartition your Ubuntu partition to be NTFS (or expand your windows partition, etc).  You'll also need a windows CD, to restore the windows bootloader to your MBR
[09:03] <Ratchet--> I have a virus on windows, and to initiate the recovery I have to bypass the choose OS during startup.
[09:03] <rdz> Flannel, sorry.. i alread proposed a more serious way by booting from cd
[09:04] <bdizzle> wasn't 8.10 supposed to come with OpenOffice 3?
[09:04] <Ratchet--> I do not *WANT* to uninstall ubuntu, but it must be done to remove my virus.
[09:04] <Ratchet--> I have a virus on windows, and to initiate the recovery I have to bypass the choose OS during startup.
[09:04] <Flannel> bdizzle: Yes, but OOo3's release was pushed back twice
[09:04] <Flannel> Ratchet--: That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
[09:05] <Flannel> Ratchet--: You're talking about choosing the "recovery" option in windows, right?
[09:05] <Ratchet--> I am talking about holding F11
[09:05] <Ratchet--> and initiating recovery mode
[09:05] <theCzar> hey, so I'm trying to make a bootable flashdrive for ubuntu 8.10.  I've tried a few methods, everything from the built in tool to Unetbootin and syslinux.  I can't get it to work at all.  I change my BIOS settings but still nothing.  any ideas?  My friend is having a similar problem too
[09:05] <Arnas> DJones: I think I read somewhere about a method virtualization of windows xp and running/connecting to program through VNC protocol
[09:05] <calav3ra_> got a short question: a windows-notebook of a friend crashed and i tried to boot it with a ubuntu 7 live-cd. now i want to make network-shared folders available so i can quickly backup folder from notebook to another pc. whats the keyboard-shortcut for opening a terminal and which commands would fully install samba and share the whole c:\ folder ? thanks in advance
[09:05] <Flannel> Ratchet--: What that does is boots to your second harddrive (D usually), so if you just boot to that via GRUB, you should be ok.
[09:05] <Ratchet--> On the normal circumstances you do it when the compaw screen shows, but there is not enough time with the option choosing
[09:05] <bdizzle> ah, okay
[09:06] <Ratchet--> Flannel: i don't quite understand how i would get to it through grub
[09:07] <Flannel> Ratchet--: You'd change from booting to your primary Windows partition to your recovery windows partition.  Unfortunately, most of that recovery stuff is MFC specific, and non-standard.  So you might want to consult google for details (see if anyone else has already done it, wrote about it, etc)
[09:08] <Popescu> !firewall
[09:08] <DJones> Ratchet--: From memory, I think there's an option on the Windows XP install cd that lets you recover your MBR, that would stop grub being loaded, you could then use windows to reformat/repartition the ubuntu partitions, but it would completely remove Ubuntu
[09:08] <akhil_> I am using Ubuntu 8.10 on a Dell Inspiron 6400. I can't shutdown my laptop other than manually pressing the power button. The turnoff button just brings a black screen where it gets stuck
[09:09] <Flannel> Ratchet--: Or you can just use the windows CD to repair the windows MBR, do your recovery stuff, then reinstall GRUB afterwards
[09:09] <Arnas> DJones: did you hear about that kind of method or something like that ?
[09:09] <kkady32> !gspca driver
[09:09] <theCzar> hey, so I'm trying to make a bootable flashdrive for ubuntu 8.10.  I've tried a few methods, everything from the built in tool to Unetbootin and syslinux.  I can't get it to work at all.  I change my BIOS settings but still nothing.  any ideas?  My friend is having a similar problem too
[09:09] <kkady32> !webcam
[09:09] <ferronica> my microsoft wreless laser keyboard 6000 v2.0 multimedia keys not working :( after installing ubuntu 8.10 gnome ??
[09:09] <Ratchet--> okay let me go find my CD.
[09:10] <livingdaylight> hallo Ubunteros
[09:10] <DJones> Arnas: The only methods I'm aware of would be to either run windows in a VM, or to try and use wine or crossover office (which you have to pay for)
[09:10] <akhil_> I am using Ubuntu 8.10 on a Dell Inspiron 6400. I can't shutdown my laptop other than manually pressing the power button. poweroff command doesn't seem to shut down, it just brings it onto a black screen with the power still switched on..
[09:10] <livingdaylight> kann mir jemand sagen ob aptitude install kubuntu-desktop kde3.5 oder 4.1 installiert?
[09:11] <Flannel> !de | livingdaylight
[09:11] <livingdaylight> sorry, in english
[09:11] <Flannel> livingdaylight: 4.X on 8.10, on 8.04 kubuntu-desktop will install 3.5, kubuntu-kde4-desktop will install kde4
[09:11] <livingdaylight> can one tell me if aptitude install kubuntu-desktop install kde 3.5 or 4.1??
[09:11] <sd32> man..i have never been so rudely  handled in a help chat then mandriva help
[09:11] <Arnas> DJones: so the method is running windows in VM (in background I think) and then connecting to that program windows through VNC protocol
[09:12] <akhil_> I am using Ubuntu 8.10 on a Dell Inspiron 6400. I can't shutdown my laptop other than manually pressing the power button. poweroff command doesn't seem to shut down, it just brings it onto a black screen with the power still switched on. I did not have this problem with Ubuntu 8.04.. What should i do?
[09:12] <DJones> Arnas: I don't know, I don't use a VM so I'm not sure whether that would work, somebody else here might know the answer though, maybe address your question to everyone generally
[09:13] <Flannel> !repeat | akhil_
[09:13] <canthony> Arnas, wat app are you trying to run
[09:13] <Arnas> thx, kinda hard  to get your answer through this flood ;-)
[09:13] <akhil_> There is always a change..
[09:13] <akhil_> :)
[09:13] <calav3ra_> lots of talking going on in here :)
[09:13] <Arnas> anyone know a method of running windows in VM (in background I think) and then connecting to that program windows through VNC protocol ???
[09:14] <livingdaylight> calav3ra_: i hope it is all ontopic
[09:14] <calav3ra_> so much questions, my question being flooded away
[09:14] <canthony> Arnas, wat are you really trying o accomplish
[09:14] <theCzar> hey, so I'm trying to make a bootable flashdrive for ubuntu 8.10.  I've tried a few methods, everything from the built in tool to Unetbootin and syslinux.  I can't get it to work at all.  I change my BIOS settings but still nothing.  any ideas?  My friend is having a similar problem too
[09:14] <livingdaylight> calav3ra_: i knows dis feeling ... remember everyone is volunteer
[09:14] <Flannel> !samba | calav3ra_
[09:15] <calav3ra_> ok, thx
[09:15] <Flannel> calav3ra_: opening a terminal has a keyboard shortcut, but I can never remember it.  I always just alt-f2 then gnome-terminal
[09:15] <DJones> !usb | theCzar, if you've not looked at this, the section on a persistent usb install may help
[09:15] <jakkels> Hello everyone
[09:15] <Arnas> canthony: running Windows XP in VM and connecting to a program window through VNC protocol. I want this because I need Windows XP environement .NET IE and so on
[09:16] <livingdaylight> why i try to join ubuntu-de and not joining; also kubuntu not joining?
[09:16] <sd32> Im getting rid of mandriva and never going back!
[09:16] <Flannel> sd32: this is a place for Ubuntu support.  did you have a support question?
[09:17] <Guest31443> yep!
[09:17] <calav3ra_> Flannel, alt+f2 ? what does this? the problem is, this live-cd somehow has problems with gnome-settings on this notebook (old), so nothing except wallpaer+icons show up, thats why i need to ask
[09:17] <sd32> Flannel, no, ubuntu is a great distro, sorry for offtopic
[09:18] <calav3ra_> but thx for the hint with the command "gnome-terminal"
[09:18] <Flannel> calav3ra_: ah, you can ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a pure terminal if the GUi isn't working properly
[09:18] <Guest31443> hi room - anyone here a media/dvd specialist?
[09:18] <canthony> Arnas, not sure of VM environments i guess.  at my office my whole team develops on linux machines, we use a windows xp machine with a hacked terminal services to allow all of use to login simultaneously via domain users for testing.  works very well
[09:18] <calav3ra_> i even thought about using a commandline cd, maybe i coudl use aa server - because gnome does really suck up the resources on this notebook, it has a mere of 256mb ram - god :)
[09:19] <theCzar> ubottu | DJones: I have read it and all it really tells me is that i'm out of luck... as computer geek... I refuse to believe this
[09:19] <Arnas> canthony: domain users ? hacked terminal service - you mean more than 2 simultaneous connections to server ? explain, advise
[09:20] <livingdaylight> why i'z not joining #kubuntu when i /j kubuntu?
[09:20] <little_devil> hi there
[09:20] <little_devil> foss.in is cool
[09:20] <Guest31443> looking for the equivalent of "www.dvdflick.net" DvD flick which converts 'any' video file into a DVDR
[09:20] <DJones> theCzar: right, other than the factoid, my machines are too old to have a bootable usb as an option so i've never been able to try it
[09:20] <sd32> is there a off topic channel?
[09:20] <Guest31443> I am not sure which program in the ubuntu library is appropriate ??
[09:21] <Flannel> livingdaylight: Its because you're using mibbit, and apparently the bots aren't giving exceptions for kubuntu at the moment
[09:21] <Flannel> sd32: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:21] <sd32> thanks
[09:22] <canthony> Arnas, i combined about 4 tutorials i found to allow unlimited (albeit it BSODs at about 20 users (-: ) terminal services (remote desktop) users, AND found a way to let simultaneous domain users on alongside the real local user.  i wrote a quicky tutorial, i will paste it here...
[09:22] <Guest31443> am i off-topic?
[09:23] <_mak> i have two machines, gateways, one is able to share the vpn connection the other is not...i've looked in 'route -n', 'iptables -L', 'iptables -t nat', they are equal, there is another places where can i search for diferences?
[09:23] <livingdaylight> Flannel: yes, i am using mibbit. How did you know?! it is web irc based on ajax . Looks nice... why the prejudice against mebbit?
[09:23] <a_ok> i used a wildcard in PRUNEPATHS in /etc/updatedb.conf however slocate still indexes it
[09:23] <Flannel> livingdaylight: I believe theres an explanation in #ubuntu-proxy-users, and actually, the topic there might explain how you can join #kubuntu as well
[09:23] <Arnas> canthony: share the link when you can, I read and try to suite my needs if I can
[09:24] <Arnas> ;0
[09:24] <theCzar> Djones: dang it... there's GOT to be a way to make this work...
[09:24] <Guest31443> can someone help me with a media/dvd question?
[09:24] <ardchoille> Guest31443: not until you ask
[09:25] <bdizzle> what is the suspend to RAM option when shutting down in KDE4?
[09:25] <Guest31443> Asking: Can someone help me with a media /dvd question?
[09:26] <ardchoille> !ask | Guest31443
[09:26] <VnCnT> just wanted to let EVERYONE know that sun released netbeans 6.5 with PHP :)
[09:26] <Flannel> VnCnT: #ubuntu-offtopic, not here, thanks.
[09:26] <VnCnT> oops
[09:27] <VnCnT> sorry for the offtopic announcement
[09:27] <Guest31443> fuck you
[09:27] <ardchoille> Man, I'm loving Intrepid, this just keeps getting better and better. Nautilus has a handy tabbed ui now :)
[09:27] <jxander> i'm using pyNeighborhood under XFCE and it gives me a Failed to mount error. what should i do?
[09:28] <ziroday> !ohmy | Guest57561
[09:28] <VnCnT> I love Intrepid as well... even though I can't get my 'motion eye' working
[09:28] <eitri__> Does anyone know how to set up nm with PEAP v2?
[09:28] <ziroday> Guest57561: and what is your exact issue?
[09:28] <Flannel> ziroday: Wrong guest, by the way.
[09:28] <kupo> can anyone tell me what the REAL story is with removing totem-plugin?
[09:28] <ziroday> Flannel: thanks :). keep forgetting about that
[09:28] <kupo> does it destroy gnome or not?
[09:29] <Arnas> canthony: also can you highlight me when you will share the link
[09:29] <ardchoille> Sorry, but we can't answer a question until we know what the question is
[09:29] <ziroday> Flannel: oh and he's left. My bad.
[09:29] <VnCnT> is it possible to get the motion eye working on a Sony Vaio VGN-CR19VN
[09:31] <canthony> Arnas, http://riccardo.raneri.it/blog/eng/index.php/2006/04/24/windows-xp-multiuser-remote-desktop/#comment-87246   ....the REG file i wrote to auto-add all the keys is not online right now, and i dont have the file on hand, you'll have to refer to the links i gave and do it manually
[09:32] <Arnas> ok thx
[09:32] <kupo> anyone please? has anyone actually managed to remove totem-plugin from firefox/ubuntu ?
[09:33] <canthony> i always remove totem
[09:33] <kupo> VnCnT: http://www.jbcobb.net/sonycr190_debian_howto.html
[09:33] <canthony> totem-*
[09:33] <ardchoille> kupo: that's one of the first things I do; remove totem
[09:33] <canthony> if it says its removing gnome its only removing meta packages
[09:33] <kupo> canthony: what method do you use
[09:33]  * HackBuntu goes, to eat dinner
[09:33] <kupo> oh....
[09:33] <kupo> you're sure?
[09:34] <HackBuntu> yes
[09:34] <kupo> it looked damn convincing
[09:34] <c0nfl|ct>  bom dia
[09:34] <kupo> alright I'll give it a shot
[09:34] <liusha> hello
[09:34] <canthony> well im pretty sure it like the first thing i do
[09:34] <ardchoille> kupo: I removed these with no ill effects:  totem totem-common totem-gstreamer totem-mozilla totem-plugins
[09:34] <kupo> ok
[09:34] <kupo> I'm just interested in removing the plugin
[09:35] <geenome> this is quite an odd question but here goes, If I took the source code for a 64 bit app for Linux in a Windows XP X64 enviornment what are the chances it will work I want foss in 64bit mode when I cant use Ubuntu
[09:35] <ikonia> Popescu why are you sending me version requests ?
[09:35] <ardchoille> then it's probably totem-mozilla you want to remove
[09:35] <kc8pxy> exit
[09:35] <kc8pxy> gar
[09:35] <Oprtz> how to install open office 3.0 in ubuntu 8.10, wat is the terminal command?
[09:36] <canthony> geenome, are you talking about building it for windows?
[09:36] <overdub> I set up my net work manually at the command prompt, yet the little icon at the top of my screen shows the network as diabled
[09:36] <canthony> Oprtz, you need to add the openoffice PPA
[09:36] <geenome> yes
[09:36] <geenome> windows 64
[09:36] <overdub> and when I start firefox, it starts in offline mode
[09:36] <henri> henri
[09:36] <geenome> http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[09:36] <Oprtz> canthony: how ?
[09:36] <ziroday> geenome: you have already been answered. It will not work.
[09:37] <loller> some other program for bluetooth handling except bluez ?
[09:37] <overdub> how can I integrate the desktop to the fact that my network is up and running fine?
[09:37] <loller> can somebody to tell me?
[09:37] <overdub> how can i get the little icon to get with the fact that I set up my network manually?
[09:37] <geenome> and saying it will not work is ignorant
[09:38] <magnetron> loller→ there are plenty of programs for handling bluetooth, most of them use bluez as their bluetooth framework/driver
[09:38] <ziroday> Oprtz: however currentely the repo that geenome gave you is not working
[09:38] <canthony> Oprtz, add....   deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main   to your sources.list
[09:38] <geenome> oh man it worked for me
[09:38] <canthony> did someone say that i got kicked out
[09:38] <geenome> sorry Oprtz
[09:38] <overdub> even though i set my network up at the command promtp with ifconfig, the network icon at the top of the screen still shows me offline
[09:38] <Oprtz> canthony:  okie
[09:38] <Oprtz> its okie geenome, no problem
[09:39] <morningwalker> looking for assistance to get ubuntu 8.04 upgraded to ubuntu 8.10 using the cd delivered to me by Ubuntu.
[09:39] <loller> magnetron ok sorry for the wrong question tell me one in this case
[09:39] <geenome> backup and reformat is the best option
[09:39] <canthony> geenome, i dont think you can just build the app for windows.  it depends on linux specific libraries and whatnot...  hence the reason for porting effforts
[09:39] <magnetron> morningwalker→ ok, you need the alternate CD. do you have the alternate cd?
[09:39] <geenome> right
[09:39] <diex> hello
[09:39] <geenome> ok ty
[09:40] <geenome> but to upgrade http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[09:40] <Popescu> ikonia out of curiosity
[09:40] <overdub> jelm66909n
[09:41] <morningwalker> magnetron, yes
[09:41] <geenome> If you boot from the CD doesnt it give you the option to upgrade
[09:41] <geenome> woohoo the new fedora
[09:41] <magnetron> morningwalker→ most people will see the "upgrade" option if they just insert the alternate CD while ubuntu is running
[09:41] <Pav5088> Hi...  If I want to clone a bootable ntfs partition onto a new drive is there a way to do this with OSS?
[09:42] <loller>  i`ve got problem with bluetooth , when i start the wirzard to add my phone to the devices it says " pairing with <phone name> failed "
[09:42] <canthony> Pav5088, you can use partimage to clone a partition
[09:42] <geenome> Pav5088 no but there are free apps to do it in Windows
[09:42] <morningwalker> magnetron' i did see the pop up window
[09:42] <loller> some body to help me?
[09:42] <magnetron> morningwalker→ use that window.
[09:42] <morningwalker> magnetron, i did
[09:42] <Pav5088> canthony: I've looked at partimage, and it seems to want to save an intermediate image file somewhere.
[09:43] <geenome> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/freeware/partition/clone
[09:43] <magnetron> morningwalker→ ok, great. so everything's fine then?
[09:43] <Pav5088> geenome: Thanks....  will check it out.
[09:43] <geenome> another bet is to simply copy your stuff over
[09:43] <geenome> I never worry about cloning
[09:43] <canthony> Pav5088, yes it does want that, i actually spent a lot of time trying to get around that but i could not.  it does however support accesing a server
[09:43] <morningwalker> magnetron, the window said A volume of software package has been detected." and 2 Options were available "start package Manager, and Cancel...
[09:43] <wers> i used synclient to change my touch pad's settings but whenever I restart, the settings are reset.how do I make synclient settings permanent? :)
[09:43] <_mak> i have two machines, gateways, one is able to share the vpn connection the other is not...i've looked in 'route -n', 'iptables -L', 'iptables -t nat', they are equal, there is another places where can i search for diferences?
[09:44] <morningwalker> Package Manager Opened.... after that no idea about what to do!!
[09:44] <magnetron> morningwalker→ so start the package manager.
[09:44] <canthony> Pav5088, it also skips empty bloacks and compresses using gzip
[09:44] <alfatau> hello! i accidentally deleted from panel (in one-shot) 3 applets: wifi manager, hp toolbox and upgrades notifier one. i can't re-place them using "add to panel" because they're not in the list. what can i do?
[09:44] <geenome> Pav5088 what are you trying to accomplish?
[09:44] <morningwalker> magnetron; i did open the package manager... but there seems to be no options like, upgrade from cd or something...
[09:44] <morningwalker> is there something i must look for?
[09:45] <canthony> Pav5088, i just used a usb HD as the intermediary since i could mount it from a livecd
[09:45] <geenome> I always have more than one HD laying around with stuff on it so I dont have to worry about cloning as it is slower than copying the information over
[09:45] <canthony> alfatau, you removed your system-tray, although im not sure how to restore it
[09:45] <rinovan> how to undelete file in reiserfs
[09:46] <magnetron> morningwalker→ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades#Upgrading Using the Alternate CD/DVD
[09:46] <geenome> reiserfs undelete http://antrix.net/journal/techtalk/reiserfs_data_recovery_howto.comments
[09:46] <kupo> ardchoille: ok you were right thanks
[09:46] <geenome> rinovan welcome to our side reiserfs ftw
[09:46] <Arenlor> Does anyone have any experience in getting mobile phones to work as modems?
[09:46] <xSONICx> hi
[09:46] <kupo> whats the difference between totem-mozilla and totem-plugin
[09:46] <kupo> s
[09:47] <geenome> totem-mozilla is a front end for web browsers and pligins are well plugins for totem
[09:47] <xSONICx> oiii
[09:47] <Oprtz> canthony: it works for me thanks dude~! :)
[09:47] <canthony> np
[09:47] <Arenlor> !ask | xSONICx
[09:47] <benoka1> 2 wireless cards are running, one built-in on the laptop and a USB one (4x faster!), how do i go to disable the built-in one at boot by keeping the possibility to re-enable (if USB one would fail)?
[09:47] <ardchoille> kupo: yw
[09:47] <morningwalker> magnetron, ive tried what they have mentioned on the site u gave me, but there still doesnt work the command on Alt = F2 " gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" " doesnt work
[09:48] <Oprtz> canthony: i hope ubuntu will beat windowsXP/Vista in 1 or 2 years
[09:48] <geenome> benoka1 is it a minipci?
[09:48] <morningwalker> magnetron; alt + f2
[09:48] <geenome> I would simply take the plate off the botom of the laptop and take it out
[09:49] <canthony> Oprtz, just keep spreading the free/open goodness/mindset
[09:49] <magnetron> morningwalker→ are you absolutely sure you have the Alternate CD? not the regular Desktop CD?
[09:49] <geenome> if the laptop is older than 2000 and it has a wifi a card in it than it might be more of a headache
[09:49] <alfatau> canthony: found: applet's name is "notification area"
[09:49] <alfatau> thanks
[09:49] <Arenlor> benokal: Do you know the module name?
[09:49] <Oprtz> canthony:  i am and i will
[09:50] <geenome> http://thoughtsbyclayg.blogspot.com/2008/01/ubuntu-disable-hardware.html disabling hardware
[09:50] <geenome> benoka1 http://thoughtsbyclayg.blogspot.com/2008/01/ubuntu-disable-hardware.html
[09:50] <Oprtz> canthony:  i love ubuntu and they way it works for me
[09:50] <morningwalker> magnetron; Yup the alternative cd is what i have... downloaded it on the site
[09:50] <morningwalker> i also have the desktopcd which i recieved today
[09:51] <morningwalker> magnetron;  i also have the desktopcd which i recieved today
[09:51] <rinovan> geenome, ?
[09:52] <geenome> I was answering a question on disabling a wifi card benoka1 asked
[09:52] <azfira_> harul
[09:52] <geenome> wow Fedora 10's kernel is schweet
[09:52] <geenome> everything is so smooth I cannot wait til Ubuntu 9.04
[09:53] <morningwalker> any way of upgrading using the desktop cd??
[09:53] <geenome> put it in the cd drive while Ubuntu is running
[09:53] <geenome> a window will popup asking if you want to upgrade
[09:54] <geenome> personally I keep my /home in another partition and format my OS partition when upgrading or trying out any Linux distro
[09:54] <geenome> so when I "upgrade" I simply format my OS partition and have a clean slate with no issues
[09:55] <Ademan> anyone know of video editors outside of kino, cinelerra, blender (yes, it does that too), avidemux (i think that was the name), pitivi ?
[09:55] <geenome> is there a way to compile kernel 2.26.9 for Ubuntu 8.10 ^_^
[09:56] <Juanolo> Hi ALl
[09:56] <geenome> Ademan sadly no
[09:56] <geenome> video editing is a mac and windows thing for now
[09:56] <Ademan> :-/
[09:56] <geenome> it makes me sad too
[09:56] <Juanolo> I am trying to start a service, /etc/init.d/pbxnsip restart, everyhitng goes ok, no error messages on screen, hoewver no process is loaded, ...I wonder wich file can I take a look to to se service startup errors on Ubuntu server, thanks
[09:56] <Ademan> kino does what (my friend) needs, it's just been a little...crash happy...
[09:57] <Ademan> and well, we all know about cinelerra (although I haven't personally used it, it's got quite a reputation)
[09:57] <canthony> Juanolo, is it a network service?
[09:57] <geenome> Ademan I use Sony Vegas Pro tools in Wine with wine tricks enabled
[09:57] <geenome> !wine
[09:58] <Ademan> wow!
[09:58] <magnetron> Ademan→ pitivi
[09:58] <Ademan> does it actually work well?
[09:58] <Ademan> my experience with wine is kinda mixed
[09:58] <geenome> pitivi is really limited
[09:58] <Ademan> i love it because the idea is great, but it often falls flat on its face
[09:58] <geenome> with wine you need patience and lots of it
[09:58] <Juanolo> canthony, yes, it is a PBX server
[09:58] <magnetron> Ademan→ use PITIVI
[09:58] <geenome> everything can be gotten to work but not without some hassles
[09:58] <magnetron> !info pitivi | Ademan
[09:59] <canthony> well its qute a feat to convert the native system calls of one os into calls to another, id say theve done a good job
[09:59] <canthony> Wine Is Not an Emulator
[09:59] <Juanolo> I just want to know which files are storing the service startup messages and errors
[09:59] <Ademan> oh certainly, especially with little/no documentation available
[09:59] <geenome> pitivi is ok it is along the same lines as Windows Movie Maker which is not a bad thing but for anything professional it doesnt pass the test
[09:59] <magnetron> Ademan→ you hear me?
[09:59] <Ademan> magnetron: i'll check it out, lol
[09:59] <neeto> My sound is crackling a little bit. Does anyone think this could be something besides hardware?
[10:00] <pogztimz> can some1 pls show me a link on how to install and configure a squid proxy server on a ubuntu server?
[10:00] <geenome> neeto is it a sblive card?
[10:00] <neeto> neeto: I can't remember exactly what it is, let me lshw real quick
[10:00] <neeto> geenome: : I can't remember exactly what it is, let me lshw real quick
[10:01] <geenome> my creative card does the same thing
[10:01] <neeto> It didn't used to do it :/
[10:01] <neeto> It's creative for sure, I don't know what type
[10:01] <canthony> Juanolo, i would try running to command manually and see what it says, instead of from init.d
[10:01] <geenome> yes creative and Linux are a shaky shady business
[10:02] <Juanolo> canthony, well runing the command manualy doesn't say anyhthing, it just executes and that's all
[10:02] <geenome> I have an XFI card that doesnt work at all
[10:02] <geenome> all it does is crackel and fizz
[10:02] <geenome> but with Windows it sounds amazing
[10:02] <K10> !german
[10:02] <neeto> geenome: I see :/ it's weird because it didn't used to crackle at all
[10:02] <Juanolo> canthony, it is supossed to be a process that has to stick to the service list, however even i execute it it doesn't appear on ps -A
[10:02] <neeto> but all the sudden it's started being really annoying
[10:02] <canthony> Juanolo, so the command completes and returns you to the terminal?
[10:02] <geenome> do you dualboot?
[10:03] <Juanolo> canthony, yes, it completes and returns me to the terminal without any error message
[10:03] <geenome> I suggest trying it in Windows and if it does the same thing get a new card
[10:03] <canthony> you could try an strace <command>
[10:03] <geenome> are you running Ubuntu 8.10 neeto?
[10:03] <neeto> geenome: it's an SB Audigy LS speficially...
[10:04] <geenome> yeah it is the xfi chip
[10:04] <neeto> geenome: I haven't upgraded yet, still 8.04
[10:04] <geenome> ahh
[10:04] <geenome> upgrade
[10:04] <neeto> geenome: that's work, nan
[10:04] <neeto> man(
[10:04] <geenome> the soundsystem of 8.04 is crappy but fixed in 8.10
[10:04] <Juanolo> canthony, strace?
[10:05] <neeto> geenome: ah, good to know... once I get around to a place where I can upgrade without the danger of losing my data, then I will... I gotta offload about 4TB of crap first though
[10:05] <geenome> I cant believe your audigy card works
[10:05] <canthony> Juanolo, strace will watch all the system cals made by the binary command.  it will tell you what the binary tries to open/etc.  there is another debugging tool that starts with a g but i cant think of it right now
[10:05] <neeto> geenome: it's worked absolutely perfectly since 7.04 when I got this machine
[10:05] <hischild> canthony, you mean gdm?
[10:05] <geenome> neeto I suggest partitioning up your hd
[10:05] <neeto> It's just now that it's turned to crap, it's weird
[10:05] <Juanolo> canthony, I don't have "strace"
[10:06] <canthony> Juanolo, is the app a binary or a script
[10:06] <hischild> canthony, no wait ... gdb sorry
[10:06] <geenome> leaving like a 30 gig OS only partition
[10:06] <canthony> hischild, yeah i think thats it
[10:06] <Juanolo> canthony, the app is a binary
[10:06] <neeto> geenome, yeah I am gonna do a whole bunch of stuff when I upgrade... get more storage and raid6 it all for redundancy and speed
[10:06] <canthony> hischild, i havent really used gdb but johnny from mapi-evolution had me do it once when i was getting the mapi plugin working
[10:06] <Gorlist> good morning, quick question for 8.10 - since upgrading ive got a new "Universal Access Preferences" icon on the task bar which I can't seem to remove (nothing appears if I right click) - any suggestions?
[10:06] <geenome> raid is good
[10:07] <Gorlist> my other ubuntu which also was upgraded hasn't got this.
[10:07] <hischild> canthony, it can be really useful at times.
[10:07] <neeto> geenome: I like it, I didn't do anything with it on this install because this machine is a modular experiment of sorts, so it's been being added onto for a year or so
[10:07] <Juanolo> canthony, I have done strace and this is the result: http://pastebin.com/m3afea990
[10:08] <geenome> right thats how my Linux machine is
[10:08] <neeto> geenome: a huge experiment?
[10:08] <geenome> I usually use Ubuntu Studio but atm I am using Fedora 10 and I love it
[10:08] <geenome> the kernel 2.6.29 is amazing
[10:09] <Juanolo> canthony, so I don't understand anything about the information generated by strace
[10:09] <canthony> Juanolo, i see alot of No such file or directory, seems like you have missing libraries
[10:09] <neeto> geenome: as soon as I get the time I'll upgrade for sure
[10:09] <knut_> which file format do i have to choose when i want to embedd fonts and images into "one file"?? (INKSCAPE)
[10:09] <geenome> it almost puts XP to shame in terms of speed and smoothness is unparraled
[10:09] <neeto> geenome: My machine already puts XP to shame several times over. I love this beast
[10:09] <geenome> a little late for kernel video processing but better late than never to have a gdi
[10:10] <zohreh> is there any one programmer with xlib ?
[10:10] <Juanolo> canthony, access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)      = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) , which library ?
[10:10] <geenome> its about time GDI kernel mode was introduced
[10:10] <neeto> geenome: oh shit they have a gdi mode now
[10:10] <paul68> geenome: do you know if creative labs is supported by fedora 10?
[10:10] <neeto> err pardon the french there
[10:10] <Juanolo> canthony, it is always asking for : ld.so.nohwcap
[10:10] <Juanolo> canthony, what's that?
[10:10] <maxb> Juanolo: that one's harmless
[10:11] <arquebus> anyone know where I can find info on how to configure command line mail clients like alpine to work with gmail?
[10:11] <geenome> Ubuntu 9.04 will have that kernel
[10:11] <geenome> or better
[10:11] <canthony> Juanolo, i admit im not that savvy with the debug tools or their output
[10:11] <Juanolo> maxb, what do yo mean?
[10:11] <maxb> Juanolo: It's not a problem that it's missing
[10:12] <arquebus> !alpine
[10:12] <neeto> geenome: cool. For now I think I am gonna make ALSA use my intel audio card, that'll probably fix the problem, at least for the immediate future
[10:12] <canthony> Juanolo, strace/gdb are usually last resorts after sifting through documentation on the program and forums/web resources.  i would think the program would have some sort of logging functionality
[10:12] <Juanolo> maxb, ok so what's wrong on strace information? I can't still manage to stick this process on
[10:12] <geenome> thats what I did neeto
[10:13] <maxb> Juanolo: I don't think there's any useful information in that strace
[10:13] <Juanolo> canthony, nothing, the information and documentations is very simple, and it si supossed to be as simple as start the process: http://wiki.pbxnsip.com/index.php/Installing_in_Linux
[10:13] <zohreh> any person programmer xlib?
[10:13] <paul68> geenome: do you know if creative labs is supported by fedora 10? and especially for the xfi cards?
[10:13] <geenome> with GDI kernel processing Xorg is now 10 times more stable
[10:13] <neeto> geenome: cool, should work, although I am more confused about why my creative card decided to get crappy all the sudden more than the fact that it's hard to listen to music with
[10:13] <geenome> idk I put my xfi card in my gaming system
[10:13] <Juanolo> The funy thing is that this was working on Ubuntu 8.04
[10:13] <geenome> its alsa probably an upgrade
[10:14] <neeto> geenome: I hate when they upgrade working things into non-working things :/
[10:14] <geenome> have you done upgrades recently
[10:14] <neeto> geenome: I do them every chance I get
[10:14] <geenome> wait a few days it might get fixed
[10:14] <maxb> Juanolo: I think that strace just shows the initial process forking off the one which will continue to run in the background, and then exiting. So, working as designed
[10:14] <neeto> geenome: I'll cross my fingers... I'm peacin' out for now though
[10:15] <geenome> later
[10:15] <neeto> later all
[10:15] <Juanolo> maxb, is there any other log where can I see error messages comming from services that want to restart?
[10:17] <geenome> the new kernel makes me smile it added like 10-15 fps for my games
[10:17] <ikonia> I doubt that
[10:17] <maxb> Juanolo: it really is up to each individual service, you'd have to see what logging options pbxnsip has
[10:17] <canthony> Juanolo, is there a specific reason you need to move to 8.10?
[10:17] <geenome> ikonia is that toward me?
[10:17] <ikonia> yes, and it's also offtopic
[10:18] <geenome> I have been helping people all night sorry I am a bit tired I got a little carried away
[10:18] <cl> i got one question: in ubuntu 8.10 the keyboard repeat function does not work for my left and down arrow key (for up and right it works) when i have synergy running. Is this problem known?
[10:18] <geenome> time to goto bed
[10:20] <akhil_> I am using Ubuntu 8.10 on a Dell Inspiron 6400. I can't shutdown my laptop other than manually pressing the power button. poweroff command doesn't seem to shut down, it just brings it onto a black screen with the power still switched on. I did not have this problem with Ubuntu 8.04.. What should i do?
[10:20] <magnetron> cl→ i'm not sure, all the bugs are tracked at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[10:20] <hischild> ikonia, good afternoon. Have you received my pm?
[10:20] <ikonia> hischild: just about to open it
[10:20] <ikonia> just logged in
[10:20] <cl> ok, i will take a look there
[10:20] <hischild> ikonia, no need to rush it. I've got time.
[10:23] <forcumang> is there a different between ubuntu's nvidia proprietary drivers and installing them manually?
[10:23] <forcumang> difference*
[10:23] <negge> could someone tell me how to get the difference between two text files without any other info (the default diff file1 file2 puts a > or < in front of  each line, I don't want that)?
[10:24] <negge> forcumang: the ubuntu drivers might not always be the newest version
[10:24] <forcumang> that's not a problem
[10:24] <canthony> negge you probly have some whitesapce in there, there is a flag in diff to ignore that
[10:24] <forcumang> i'm just trying to find out if they function the same
[10:25] <negge> canthony: I'll check
[10:25] <milligan_> forcumang, using the repo drivers is probably going to make lifer easier for you .. but not bleeding edge.
[10:25] <oneng> ...........
[10:25] <negge> canthony: that didn't work (diff -w)
[10:25] <forcumang> milligan_ => so there is a difference between 173 proprietary and 173 manual install?
[10:25] <forcumang> (173 = driver ver)
[10:26] <milligan_> forcumang, as long as the driver version is the same, I wouldn't think there is a difference, no.
[10:26] <forcumang> alright, that's great
[10:26] <forcumang> thanks for the information
[10:26] <canthony> negge try -y
[10:26] <hischild> ikonia, i've got to help a few folks here. take your time, i'll be back in like half an hour. ok?
[10:26] <canthony> for side by side
[10:27] <negge> canthony: thatmade it a bit better but it produces a lot of whitespace at the beginning of the line
[10:27] <forcumang> Jeez, this channel has a lot of users compared to efnet..
[10:27] <forcumang> o.o
[10:27] <milligan_> forcumang, don't take my word for it though .. I'm just assuming and using what seems logical to me :)
[10:27] <negge> forcumang: that's because this is the official channel
[10:27] <forcumang> milligan_ => i assumed the same, just wanted a second opinion, and you've delivered
[10:27] <forcumang> ;)
[10:27] <forcumang> negge => ah ic
[10:28] <milligan_> Don't s'pose anyone here has experience with the amanda backup solution ?
[10:28] <forcumang> No sir, not here. :x
[10:28] <forcumang> i'd like a program that made a full backup into an iso
[10:28] <forcumang> :x
[10:29] <forcumang> is there a limit to .tar.gz size?
[10:29] <canthony> forcumang, backup of what
[10:29] <forcumang> of the whole system
[10:29] <negge> canthony: any other ideas? the -y switch just outputs the diff in two different columns
[10:29] <forcumang> all files
[10:29] <canthony> forcumang, limits are imposed by the filesystem/processor/ram or all
[10:30] <forcumang> yes, but
[10:30] <canthony> you can make tar autosplit at certain sizes
[10:30] <forcumang> for example: if i had a super duper computer with 999TB of HDD space
[10:30] <forcumang> ah ok
[10:30] <canthony> negge, there is also a minimal switch, not sure will need to just play with it i guess
[10:30] <forcumang> hmm
[10:30] <forcumang> has anyone here installed photoshop on wine?
[10:31] <Tr4sK> Hi all
[10:31] <negge> canthony: I tried a lot of different switches but none seems to be it
[10:31] <canthony> forcumang, is it a whole partition you need backed up
[10:31] <ddgoose> forcumang, take a look into using dump/restore
[10:31] <canthony> forcumang, yeah i was oing to just suggest partimage again
[10:31] <forcumang> canthony => yes
[10:31] <forcumang> ddgoose => i will
[10:32] <canthony> forcumang, i just used partimage an hour ago to clone my gentoo setup to an identical server
[10:32] <rdz> hi all. when 'aptitude safe-upgrade'ing, it hangs always at 'setting up man-db' 'Updating database of manual pages ...'. synaptic package manager also doesn't work. assumingly because of the same reason
[10:32] <canthony> rdz, wat do you consider "hang"....
[10:33] <forcumang> oh wow dump / restore is a program right in the repository
[10:33] <forcumang> looks like it's exactly what i need
[10:33] <forcumang> thanks for the reference fellas
[10:33] <canthony> negge, you could try looking at the file a piece at a time
[10:33] <benoka1> geenome, you pasted a link about sound devices, but I'm talking about a wireless network card
[10:33] <forcumang> haha
[10:34] <benoka1> Arenlor, you mean ubuntu version? 8.10, intrepid
[10:34] <forcumang> oh whats the terminal cmd to check my ubuntu ver
[10:34] <rdz> canthony, it stays there and uses 100% cpu. i let it running for over half an hour, but it still stays there
[10:34] <bimberi> !version | forcumang
[10:35] <canthony> rdz, hmm that is suspicious, im out on this one
[10:35] <rdz> canthony, probably it's useful to know, that i am running ubuntu intrepid as a guest os in virtualbox on mac osx host
[10:35] <forcumang> !shell
[10:36] <canthony> rdz, yuck.  either way i do clean install to aboid phantom issies with upgrading
[10:36] <rdz> canthony, what do oyu mean with 'clean install'?
[10:36] <ddgoose> forcumang, amanda will work also, it uses dump or tar for its backups, and has a file driver to write to a file instead of tape
[10:36] <benoka> 2 wireless cards are running, one built-in on the laptop and a USB one (4x faster!), how do i go to disable the built-in one at boot by keeping the possibility to re-enable (if USB one would fail)? ubuntu 8.10 intrepid
[10:37] <rdz> canthony, this _is_ a clean and fresh install
[10:37] <canthony> rdz, well ive never worked with a VM solution, but i always have a dedicated /home partition so when i upgrade i just have to wipe the partition my "OS" is one and reinstall without losing my stuff
[10:37] <chazco> Hi... the upgrade to 8.10 has damaged wireless. I'm told that upgrading to the proposed kernel can fix this issue. Are there any major risks in doing this and can it be un-done?
[10:38] <canthony> rdz whats a "safe-upgrade" i havent used aptitude
[10:38] <forcumang> oh wow
[10:38] <forcumang> im under intrepid too
[10:38] <ddgoose> benoka, check your computers bios for a switch to turn off the built in wireless, some laptops/computers also have a switch on the case to do same
[10:38] <forcumang> i thought i was under hardy the whole time
[10:38] <forcumang> .
[10:38] <ikonia> chazco it can be undone by booting from the old kernel, however using the proposed repo is a risk of other packages being problems
[10:38] <rdz> canthony, it's basically the same as 'apt-get upgrade'
[10:38] <rdz> canthony, or pressing the 'update' button in synpatic
[10:38] <canthony> rdz from what i understand the advantages to using aptitude got merged into apt-get a long time ago
[10:38] <ikonia> chazco: I would only suggest this if you are %101 confident with what your doing
[10:38] <chazco> ikonia - Ah... so would you say the "safer" bet would be to downgrade to 8.04?
[10:38] <wamng> under intrepid
[10:39] <rdz> canthony, you think, i should use apt-get instead?
[10:39] <canthony> rdz i dont know might be worth a try but it seems like you might have a different issue
[10:39] <rdz> canthony, same result with apt-get as well
[10:39] <ikonia> chazco: no, wait for a fix
[10:39] <ikonia> chazco:  you can't downgrade
[10:39] <chazco> ikonia - I need the wifi :( I mean uninstall 8.10 and reinstall 8.04
[10:40] <rdz> canthony, i would need to find out, what mandb is doing when it hangs.. the process using 100%cpu is called 'mandb'
[10:40] <ikonia> chazco: your acll what to do then
[10:41] <chazco> ikonia - Ok, thanks for the advice :)
[10:41] <canthony> rdz, yeah im just not skilled enough in the debugging arts to help any further.  i know there are ways to "flag" a process and record the systems calls/etc it makes when its ran
[10:42] <rdz> canthony, ok.. me neither.. but thanks so far
[10:42] <theunixgeek> Where can I get the theme used in this screenshot? http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/lifehacker/2008/11/screenshot1.gif
[10:43] <ddgoose> theunixgeek, looks like human-clearlooks to me
[10:43] <theunixgeek> ddgoose: the window border?
[10:43] <AllareRegistered> my computername changed for some sick reason
[10:44] <AllareRegistered> to localhost.localdomain
[10:44] <AllareRegistered> how can i give it the name of my choice again please?
[10:44] <shams> i have a 13" laptop. i install ubuntu and ubuntu detect my VGA and set my lcd to 1280x800 px. can i maximize my resolution bigger that 1280x800?
[10:45] <shams> i have a 13" laptop. i install ubuntu and ubuntu detect my VGA and set my lcd to 1280x800 px. can i maximize my resolution bigger than 1280x800?
[10:45] <scientes> can i do a windows install data import over samba or otherwise from a vm?
[10:46] <scientes> without doing dual bot? cause bual boot really is stupid
[10:46] <AllareRegistered> :s
[10:46] <ddgoose> theunixgeek, what specifically do you mean about the border?
[10:46] <AllareRegistered> what makes dual boot stupid, scientes
[10:46] <scientes> time comsuming
[10:46] <theunixgeek> ddgoose: what's the name of the window border theme?
[10:47] <scientes> the only thing that would make it usualble is if either system could boot the other as a vm
[10:47] <theunixgeek> I'm not sure that it's human-clearlooks
[10:47] <AllareRegistered> scientes, ah then virtualbox or vmware could indeed by a good solution, sorry but i didnt understand the rest of the question
[10:47] <rdz> shams, do you want to have a resolution that is higher than the native resolution of your notebook'
[10:47] <rdz> ?
[10:47] <YAA1> IS IT POSSIBLE to make "passwd" NOT asking for the old password first, when trying to change the users password as a simple user (not as root) ????
[10:48] <AllareRegistered> windows install data import = ?
[10:48] <scientes> vmware doesnt allow it, you cant instal vmware tools on a comp with vmware server/ws etc
[10:48] <rdz> shams, from what i know, ubuntu tries to detect the native resolution of your built-in screen and uses that
[10:48] <ddgoose> theunixgeek, looks like human or human-clearlooks
[10:48] <theunixgeek> ddgoose: ok
[10:48] <v6lur> hi
[10:48] <v6lur> can i get nvidia-glx-177 version 177.78 from anywhere? intrepid repos seem to have only 177.80 now
[10:49] <v6lur> the new version has "corruption" bug again :/
[10:49] <v6lur> (running hardy, with nvidia drivers from intrepid)
[10:49] <v6lur> that combination worked fine ~month ago, but i'v since upgraded to intrepid, disappointed, and fresh-installed hardy again
[10:49] <v6lur> and now i can't find 177.78 drivers any more
[10:50] <shams> rdz: if i maximize my resolution, bigger than native resolution, my notebook lcd will damaged?
[10:50] <AllareRegistered> scientes, i only installed vmware-tools in VMs :s
[10:51] <ddgoose> theunixgeek, what distro are you on, should be included or on by default for 8.10 or 8.04
[10:51] <ddgoose> doh
[10:51] <scientes> it woud be a vm, vmware tools is ssmart and wont load if it doesnt see the drivers of the server
[10:51] <AllareRegistered> huh
[10:51] <scientes> called dual boot, where each can load each other
[10:51] <AllareRegistered> vmware-tools just allways worked here
[10:52] <AllareRegistered> in a VM
[10:52] <scientes> vmware prevents it from diallowing vmware tools and server on same computer
[10:52] <AllareRegistered> im still not sure what you mean lol
[10:52] <scientes> boot a physical partition
[10:52] <scientes> works great except for additions
[10:52] <scientes> and some issues with nvidia driver
[10:52] <YAA1> IS IT POSSIBLE to make "passwd" NOT asking for the old password first, when trying to change the users password as a simple user (not as root) ????
[10:53] <scientes> but vmware-tools easily overrides that and hook directly to X
[10:53] <scientes> YAA1, run it as root
[10:53] <AllareRegistered> scientes, so you have a VM that uses a physical partition?
[10:53] <YAA1> scientes: no other way to configure it for not asking users anymore ??
[10:53] <scientes> yeah, they work well
[10:54] <scientes> YAA1, you have to be root to reset pasword, if ycannot become root at all you need to reboot into rescue mode
[10:54] <scientes> YAA1, (as root or sudo) passwd <username>
[10:55] <AllareRegistered> scientes, its still a VM right? so it should still be possible to install vmware-tools right?
[10:55] <scientes> YAA1, man sudo, RTFMP
[10:55] <Finnish> How do I reinstall grub?
[10:55] <YAA1> scientes: you missed the point. im not about to reset passwords. im asking if there is a way to comfigure the "passwd" programm (or sub-programms/components) so that a simple user will not be asked for his old password first if he wants to change his password to a new one.
[10:55] <AllareRegistered> scientes, i never tried that so i wouldnt know but it seemd interesting hope you dont mind me asking stuff about it :)
[10:55] <scientes> AllareRegistered, im saying the vmware-tools install checks for vmware/workstation and refuses to install
[10:56] <AllareRegistered> scientes, so it cannot find the host?
[10:56] <carnage_> hey, how do i check kernel config parameters on my currently running kernel?
[10:56] <mfilipe> how do I do to disable my eth0 in startup?
[10:56] <scientes> but i havnt tried to do it cross VM platforms like Virtualbox for linux to windows, and vmware for linux in windows
[10:56] <scientes> mfilipe, if you find out tell me
[10:56] <YAA1> scientes: sudo or anything where user gets id 0 is no valid solution.
[10:57] <scientes> YAA1, ? to change ids you have to change the passwd file
[10:57] <mfilipe> scientes: I can add "ifconfig eth0 down" in /etc/rc.local, but I want disable the module too
[10:57] <scientes> YAA1, READ THE FUCKING MAN PAGE, man passwd
[10:57] <scientes> mfilipe, add it to /etc/modules/blacklist
[10:58] <YAA1> scientes: I did already read the "man passwd" page.. I found no lead for any configuration way. but this does not always mean there is no solution.
[10:58] <kevin-go> hi, how do I make eth0:1 permanent but eth0 dynamic (reason is I want to put eth0 on any one of a series of networks and I want it to have a static ip for connecting to a vpn with the eth0:1 alias
[10:58] <mfilipe> scientes: but I don't know which is the module
[10:58] <bazhang> scientes, no cursing.
[10:58] <scientes> mfilipe, im in the same boat
[10:58] <scientes> i have a eth that is broken and keeps turning on and breaking things
[10:59] <scientes> sryy bazhang but he was repeatedly not saying anything/repeating himself on a simple question
[10:59] <bazhang> scientes, does not matter; cursing is right out here
[10:59] <scientes> YAA1, passwd run as root can change any users asswd
[10:59] <elkbuntu> scientes, please dont ever shout that at people again. it's really rude.
[10:59] <AllareRegistered> censorship is also rude imho
[11:00] <elkbuntu> AllareRegistered, that is not censorship. censorship would be if i removed you now.
[11:00] <YAA1> it seems scientes did not listen well.
[11:01] <aldin> hi, i've googled for a free fat partition "undelete" software, cause i accidentially deleted files,  is there some linux/ubuntu solution for restore deleted files from fat32 partitioons?
[11:01] <bazhang> aldin, have you overwritten them?
[11:01] <aldin> no
[11:01] <AllareRegistered> elkbuntu, censorship would be muting someone for swearing, but i didnt mean anything bad by my remark, its just that i see complaining about bad language like every 5 minutes these days
[11:01] <aldin> bazhang: no
[11:02] <ddgoose> aldin, take a look at testdisk
[11:02] <bazhang> aldin, from fat32? not that I know of; there is for ext3 though that is far from 100%
[11:02] <YAA1> DOES ANYBODY KNOWS A WAY to make "PASSWD" NOT ASKING FOR OLD PASSWORD FIRST when run as a normal user (not root, no sudo! just simple user doing a passwd) ???
[11:02] <bazhang> !undelete
[11:02] <bazhang> YAA1, dont use caps
[11:02] <elkbuntu> AllareRegistered, this channel has standards. if we dont maintain them, then they lapse and we turn into a pit of screaming obscenities at people. meanwhile, i wasnt debating the F word so much as the RTFM attitude that is far more abhorrable.
[11:02] <baschtwork> Hey. Can someone tell me if the Seek_Error_Rate on Seagate Harddisks is usually a bit higher?
[11:03] <AllareRegistered> elkbuntu, by typing rt*m you violate the rules yourself :s
[11:03] <bazhang> baschtwork, you should check in ##hardware
[11:03] <elkbuntu> YAA1, what's the point of passwords if it's that easy to circumvent?
[11:04] <baschtwork> bazhang: I'm facing this problem only under Ubuntu Server - it spits out "ata3" kernel-errors - but the disks are fine...
[11:04] <elkbuntu> AllareRegistered, only because you pushed the issue. it'd be nice to not have to break the rules to enforce them, but some people just love to argue.
[11:04] <AllareRegistered> elkbuntu, but i understand where youŕe going (and you wont see me swear here)
[11:05] <aldin> bazhang: it is fat32 (an usb stick)
[11:05] <ddgoose> YAA1, why would you need to bypass the old passwd prompt?
[11:06] <AllareRegistered> elkbuntu, i didnt mean it to start arguing, i just meant its remarkable how fast people react when they see a bad word, and how slow they react to questions, and sometimes it bothers me because people can actually defend themselves (but again i understand there need to be rules and you will not see me swear here)
[11:06] <YAA1> elkbuntu: circumvent ?! im just looking for a solution to PREVENT PASSWD from asking for the OLD PASSWORD first. Its NOTHING about circumventing. I just want to get RID of that anoying question for experimental reasons (IN LAB work)
[11:06] <bazhang> baschtwork, you could check launchpad or ubuntuforums to see if it is a software issue; though that does sound like hardware imo
[11:06] <du> hello
[11:07] <elkbuntu> YAA1, right, so if i could change someone's password without knowing that, what's the point of the password in the first place if anyone can just change it to something they know?
[11:07] <YAA1> elkbuntu: this is supposed to make engineering less anoying while experimenting with passwords, complexity, ldap and all that. it just SUCKS if you want to change my users password and it asks you every minute for the old password.
[11:08] <AllareRegistered> lol someone tell him about bad language :p
[11:08] <AllareRegistered> i dont see anything now :p
[11:08] <jxander> how do i set the first day of the week to monday in gnome?
[11:08] <elkbuntu> YAA1, this is completely the wrong place to be asking for that sort of assistance. you're better off asking a more general linux channel.
[11:09] <YAA1> elkbuntu: I know WHY this "feature" is implemented there. but that is not the point. I am ROOT! so I don't need to ask users to change password if you like to. but I am testing around and this "old password question" is anoying if you do passwd about every minute while complexity is >8chars , special chars and all!!! got it ?
[11:09] <AllareRegistered> YAA1, #linux for example :p
[11:09] <AllareRegistered> YAA1, please be aware that nobody owes you help
[11:09] <ddgoose> YAA1, you could get source for password and recompile
[11:09] <kevin-go> YAA1, if you have root you type passwd johnny and then put in johnny's passwd
[11:10] <ddgoose> er passwd even
[11:10] <elkbuntu> YAA1, it's *not* a feature that ubuntu implemented. it's part of basic linux.
[11:10] <kevin-go> YAA1, otherwise you can't get there from here#
[11:10] <vlt> Hello. Is there a MUA that can connect to an IMAP server in readonly mode?
[11:10] <YAA1> kevin-go: you missed the point
[11:11] <kevin-go> YAA1, I did not, I saw exactly what you said, and uttered, you can't get there from here
[11:11] <bazhang> YAA1, this is not the right channel for that.
[11:11] <ddgoose> YAA1, just recompile passwd, end of problem
[11:11]  * AllareRegistered looks at #linux
[11:11] <ddgoose> after changing the old password routine of course
[11:11] <YAA1> ddgoose: so there is no official way to configure passwd so it won't ask the old password ? hacking the code is the only way left?
[11:12] <kevin-go> YAA1, correct
[11:12] <bazhang> !repeat | YAA1
[11:12] <ddgoose> YAA1, if you get the source and look at the configure script it may have an override in there, I am not sure without looking
[11:13] <kevin-go> hi, how do I make eth0:1 permanent but eth0 dynamic (reason is I want to put eth0 on any one of a series of networks and I want it to have a static ip for connecting to a vpn with the eth0:1 alias)
[11:13] <YAA1> ddgoose: Now.. THAT is a Answer to the point. thanks for help!
[11:13] <elkbuntu> YAA1, it's completely outside the scope of this channel
[11:13] <AllareRegistered> YAA1, i asked for you in #linux... <koala_man> AllareRegistered: run it as root
[11:14] <elkbuntu> AllareRegistered, dont worry, he'll be back when he cant figure how to recompile or something.
[11:14] <ddgoose> fireman goose to the rescue
[11:14] <AllareRegistered> elkbuntu, ah he left lol
[11:14] <AllareRegistered> elkbuntu,  didnt notice that
[11:14] <Kelen> why there are two kind of kernel different so much on their size like 2.6.27 and 2.6.27.*?
[11:15] <AllareRegistered> i got a answer in #linux in about 30 seconds
[11:15] <AllareRegistered> lol
[11:15] <ikonia> Kelen what ?
[11:15] <kevin-go> hi, how do I make eth0:1 permanent but eth0 dynamic (reason is I want to put eth0 on any one of a series of networks and I want it to have a static ip for connecting to a vpn with the eth0:1 alias)
[11:16] <elkbuntu> AllareRegistered, this channel tends to get abused for 'general gnu utils' and 'basic linux' help.
[11:16] <ikonia> kevin-go define it in the interfaces file
[11:17] <AllareRegistered> elkbuntu, well its hard to judge where to ask sometimes but this one was indeed pretty obvious for #linux
[11:18] <AllareRegistered> my computername changed to localhost.localdomain for some sick reason, how should i change it back?
[11:18] <AllareRegistered> (i run mythbuntu 8.10 should that mather)
[11:18] <Insti> Hi, My mouse scrollwheel has stopped working since I did a bunch of updates. I've not changed my xorg.conf. The mouse works fine in another computer. Anyone have any clues?
[11:18] <elkbuntu> AllareRegistered, /etc/hosts file?
[11:19] <kevin-go> ikonia, so where I have auto eth0 auto where it does the dhcp atm would I be right with auto eth0:1 for a second stanza
[11:19] <ddgoose> AllareRegistered, /etc/hostname , /etc/hosts
[11:19] <AllareRegistered> elkbuntu, ddgoose nice thanx
[11:19] <kevin-go> ikonia, I'll try it anyway ;-)
[11:19] <dee_> join #ubuntu-zh
[11:19] <ikonia> kevin-go auto eth0:1 just means "auto configure" so yes
[11:19] <AllareRegistered> never had to do it before
[11:20] <ddgoose> AllareRegistered, you will need to reboot for it to take effect
[11:20] <AllareRegistered> ddgoose, thanx i will
[11:21] <Alexzzz> \join #php
[11:21] <Alexzzz> oops )
[11:21] <AllareRegistered> loool
[11:22] <AllareRegistered> (/ just in case you dont know)
[11:23] <atax> Hi, when entering a manual ip-address in Ubutnu 8.10 using the nm-connection-editor, the ip-adresse remains a dhcp-addresse, even though I did a /etc/networking restart! How can I do so the manual address  get s accepted?
[11:23] <Shoopuf> anyone here able to get the imagick PHP extension to work in Ubuntu?
[11:24] <kevin-go> ikonia, does this look ok? http://paste.ubuntu.com/77083/
[11:24] <mfilipe> what is the command to see all daemons that are running?
[11:25] <ikonia> kevin-go seems a reasonable shot
[11:25] <AllareRegistered> ddgoose, elkbuntu after reboot xfce complains it cannot find localhost.localdomain
[11:25] <ikonia> mfilipe: ps -ef |
[11:25] <ikonia> mfilipe: ps -ef
[11:25] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[11:25] <ikonia> AllareRegistered do you have an entry in /etc/hosts for it
[11:25] <kevin-go> ikonia, thanks ~I will restart networking now :-)
[11:25] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, nope, i just removed it (well commented it out)
[11:26] <ikonia> AllareRegistered thats the problem then
[11:26] <ddgoose> Shoopuf, whats the issue?
[11:26] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, but then my system had the retarded name again :s
[11:26] <elkbuntu> AllareRegistered, you dont overwrite it, you add extra names next to it
[11:26] <ikonia> AllareRegistered your hostname is not set that way
[11:26] <kevin-go> ikonia, na it does not like me ;-) it remembers some other network I was on (ohh well time for some hard work)
[11:27] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, my hostname was correct :( yet my machine shows up as localdomain.localhost
[11:27] <ikonia> AllareRegistered where does your machine show up as localdomain ?
[11:27] <gabx> so is xmms2 now just a command line tool? or can i get it to work as it has done in the past?
[11:27] <sliverchair1> gnome suddenly disappear, only wallpaper after being inactive for a while, doesn't respond to CTRL+ALT+BCKSPCE aslo
[11:27] <bazhang> gabx try audacious instead
[11:27] <ikonia> gabx it's very different, it's an audio server now
[11:28] <gabx> bazhang: easy on the computer, memory wise?
[11:28] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, over upnp on my xbox360 (im running mythbntu 8.10)
[11:28] <matthias_> hi I want to add custom wallpapers to /usr/share/backgrounds --> but the one added do not show up in the dialog to change the wallpaper
[11:28] <gabx> ikonia: yeah i've noticed :\
[11:28] <bazhang> gabx, very
[11:28] <ikonia> AllareRegistered thats what myth is broadcasting then
[11:28] <mfilipe> ikonia: thanks
[11:28] <gabx> bazhang: ok thanks :)
[11:28] <sliverchair1> using intrepid, any help?
[11:28] <Havsalt> how do i connect to a windows machine and download some shared folders?
[11:29] <sliverchair1> Havsalt: Places->Network
[11:29] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, aha, i didnt find that name anywhere in mythtv menus, so i thought it was just the hostname
[11:29] <v6lur> can i get nvidia-glx-177 version 177.78 from anywhere? intrepid repos seem to have only 177.80 now
[11:29] <v6lur> the new version has "corruption" bug again :/
[11:29] <v6lur> (running hardy, with nvidia drivers from intrepid)
[11:29] <v6lur> that combination worked fine ~month ago, but i'v since upgraded to intrepid, disappointed, and fresh-installed hardy again
[11:29] <v6lur> and now i can't find 177.78 drivers any more
[11:29] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, do you have any idea where to set that in mythtv? (ill go ask in mythtv-users but just in case)
[11:30]  * Panarchy says Hi
[11:30] <ikonia> AllareRegistered it depends on a few things
[11:30] <Panarchy> I was wondering if anyone knew how I could save my settings (and customisations) for when I create a LiveCD? So far, I have been able to save a custom wallpaper, custom applications and custom desktop icons... but I need to be able to save: Which panel icons appear (and don't appear), which WINE applications I have installed & what firefox extensions (addons) that I have installed. Any help with this would be appreciated.
[11:30] <ikonia> Panarchy then say "hi" don't do /me says hi
[11:30] <Havsalt> sliverchair1, i don't got "places" :/
[11:30] <Shoopuf> ddgoose: i sudo aptituded imagemagick and php5-imagick but when I run my PHP code it says "Fatal error:  Call to undefined function NewMagickWand() in /var/www/1111/script_1.php on line 3"
[11:30] <Oli``> how can I find out which version of the X11 server I'm using?
[11:31] <gabx> hehe, finally got my damn ATI drivers to work correctly with widescreen (not dual head yet though) ubuntu 8.10.. everything is running smooth, fluxbox configured as i like it.. time to work :)
[11:32] <tatters> forgot my user pass on ubuntu so trying to reset it, I am stumped on the random question "1 + 1 = " if I answer 2 or two they both wrong, also it ask what "color is an orange" if I answer orange it says incorrect?
[11:32] <Havsalt> how do i connect to a windows machine and download some shared folders?
[11:32] <ikonia> tatters where are you being asked for a random question
[11:32] <wesolek> hello, I've just installed compiz and cairo-dock on my new xubuntu, but I can't find it anywhere to actually activate it. Did I do something wrong? Can anybody help?
[11:32] <ikonia> !samba > Havsalt
[11:32] <tatters> it the ubuntu forum so it resends my password
[11:32] <wesolek> hello ikonia :) good to see you
[11:33] <ikonia> wesolek: compiz-fusion should have been already installed
[11:33] <bazhang> #ubuntuforums tatters
[11:33] <ikonia> wesolek: hello
[11:33] <Panarchy> ikonia... any ideas for my comment?
[11:33] <ikonia> Panarchy: I didn't even read yours, sorry
[11:33] <Panarchy> I think I have found a working guide on getting WINE to work for cross session
[11:33] <Panarchy> I was wondering if anyone knew how I could save my settings (and customisations) for when I create a LiveCD? So far, I have been able to save a custom wallpaper, custom applications and custom desktop icons... but I need to be able to save: Which panel icons appear (and don't appear), which WINE applications I have installed & what firefox extensions (addons) that I have installed. Any help with this would be appreciated.
[11:33] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, do you have any idea where to set that in mythtv?
[11:33] <v6lur> anyone?
[11:34] <ikonia> AllareRegistered: as I said, it depends where the xbox is picking that machine name up
[11:34] <Panarchy> v6lur: What model number is your card?
[11:34] <ikonia> Panarchy: I'm sure they aer just g-conf or .session files settings
[11:34] <tatters> dont seem to be a ﻿#ubuntuforums
[11:34] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, huh? where? in my home network i guess?
[11:34] <Panarchy> ikonia: Really? Any idea where they would be located?
[11:34] <v6lur> geforce 8400m g
[11:34] <ikonia> Panarchy not without looking
[11:35] <wesolek> ikonia, I don't think it was. and I installed normal compiz, not the fusion one
[11:35] <Panarchy> v6lur: Is that for laptop?
[11:35] <ikonia> AllareRegistered I mean how is the xbox asking for a hostname is more likey
[11:35] <v6lur> Panarchy: yes
[11:35] <Panarchy> ikonia: Can you please do me a massive favour and look for it for me?
[11:35] <ikonia> wesolek "normal compiz"? ?? there is only one. "Compis-fusion"
[11:35] <ikonia> Panarchy: sorry no, not got time to go digging through .sessions files
[11:35] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, well it used to be the same as my hostname, but my machine just automatically screwed itself up, and this is one of the things that aere screwed up all of a sudden
[11:36] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, i fixed all the rest, this is the last issue i found
[11:36] <ikonia> AllareRegistered machines don't jsut screw themsevles up - what really happened
[11:36] <Panarchy> v6lur: What linux are you using?
[11:36] <Panarchy> 32-bit or 64-bit
[11:36] <Panarchy> ikonia: Any idea where I should start looking?
[11:36] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, i have no clue it happened while i didnt do anything
[11:36] <v6lur> Panarchy: 32
[11:36] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, it worked fine and a bit later it was screwed up
[11:36] <AllareRegistered> that simple, no idea what happened
[11:36] <v6lur> Panarchy: and kubuntu flavour
[11:36] <Shoopuf> how do i remove something that i downloaded with aptitude...
[11:36] <Panarchy> v6lur, Install this driver: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_177.82.html
[11:37] <ikonia> Panarchy whoaaaa why are you telling him to do that /
[11:37] <wesolek> ikonia, in my synaptic, when I typed compiz to find a package, there was compiz and compiz-fusion-bcop. Well anyway, I've got them both installed, but nothing happens
[11:37] <Panarchy> ikonia: Thought it might help?
[11:37] <ikonia> Panarchy why ?
[11:37] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, only thing that could have happened is a unsafe shutdown, by power failure (or annoying mom)
[11:37] <Panarchy> ikonia: Would you rather I give him an open-source driver?
[11:37] <ikonia> Panarchy: is that card not supported by the 3 versions in the ubuntu repo ?
[11:37] <Panarchy> ikonia: Would you rather I give him an open-source driver?
[11:37] <ikonia> Panarchy no, there are 3 versions of the nvidia driver in the ubuntu reop
[11:38] <Panarchy> ikonia: He said he couldn't get it to work
[11:38] <ikonia> AllareRegistered if you open a terminal and type "hostname"
[11:38] <v6lur> Panarchy: i'd rather avoid those .run-s, bad experiences :(
[11:38] <Panarchy> ikonia: This way seems the simplest work around
[11:38] <Panarchy> v6lur... ok
[11:38] <ikonia> Panarchy do you think breaking kernel module dependeny for the ubuntu kernels is a "simple fix"
[11:38] <ikonia> Panarchy: those drivers should be installed as a last resort
[11:38] <Panarchy> ikonia: Can you please tell me where I should go to find the .session files that I need?
[11:38] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, $ hostname
[11:38] <AllareRegistered> localhost.localdomain
[11:38] <ikonia> Panarchy: just because he can't get them to work doesn't mean they don't work
[11:39] <Panarchy> ikonia: Not really that used to driver troubles on linux
[11:39] <Panarchy> ikonia: Had enough other troubles... lol
[11:39] <Panarchy> ikonia: Can you please tell me where I should go to find the .session files that I need?
[11:39] <ikonia> Panarchy no
[11:39] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, content of /etc/hostname = ward-mediacenter
[11:39] <ikonia> AllareRegistered do you have ward-mediacenter in /etc/hosts
[11:39] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, yes
[11:40] <ikonia> AllareRegistered one moment, let me see if I can access an ubuntu box
[11:40] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, ill pastebin my /etc/hosts so you can check it if you want, im not sure if it looks as it should
[11:40] <Panarchy> ikonia: To which question did you answer?
[11:40] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, i never had to alter it before so
[11:40] <[c0re]> where is .bashrc of root?
[11:40] <ikonia> Panarchy "no I can't help you find your .session info"
[11:40] <ikonia> [c0re] root's home dir ?
[11:40] <Panarchy> !!!
[11:41] <Panarchy> Any idea who I should contact who has the time to go through them?
[11:41] <[c0re]> ikonia, and where is root's home dir? /root?
[11:41] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/77084/ my /etc/hosts
[11:41] <Panarchy> c0re: Yep
[11:41] <[c0re]> ok thanks
[11:41] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, and i never altered that by hand
[11:41] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, that localhost.localdomain crap started together with all the other trouble
[11:41] <ikonia> AllareRegistered don't worry, and now /etc/hostname says ward-mediacenter ?
[11:42] <AllareRegistered> i managed to solve the rest though
[11:42] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, correct
[11:42] <ikonia> AllareRegistered have you rebooted since you set /etc/hostname AND /etc/hosts ?
[11:42] <Panarchy> AllareRegistered, would it be any help with to you if I gave you my etc/hosts
[11:42] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, this is how they were, i didnt set anything
[11:42] <nicku> how can i put AD usergroups to fuse group. i need them to be able to use fuse
[11:43] <ikonia> nicku you need to make your machine part of the domain
[11:43] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, well i did try to change them but i had to change back, rebooted and didnt change anything after the reboot
[11:43] <nicku> ikonia: it is in domain
[11:43] <AllareRegistered> Panarchy, not at this point i think
[11:43] <ikonia> AllareRegistered ahh so you've not actually changed them your self
[11:43] <Panarchy> AllareRegistered ok
[11:43] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, no, automagical crpa changed it lol
[11:43] <wesolek> ikonia, is it my graphics drivers that causes the problem?
[11:43] <tatters> I set up a box as a ubuntu server with cups, I can print from all my remote boxes but I cannot print from the server directly itself using lp or lpr, does the server require any extra software to actually be able to print itself?
[11:44] <ikonia> nicku then use the nsswitch.conf to set the auth order and just include the group names in the group you want to add
[11:44] <Shoopuf> anyone here ever successfully install php5-imagick and gotten it to work on their apache server in Ubuntu?
[11:44] <AllareRegistered> Panarchy, thanx anyway, should i need a example ill let you know
[11:44] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, need to go eat, be right back
[11:44] <Mohammad[B]> hi all
[11:45] <Panarchy> Alarre: ok!!
[11:45] <Panarchy> I was wondering if anyone knew how I could save my settings (and customisations) for when I create a LiveCD? So far, I have been able to save a custom wallpaper, custom applications and custom desktop icons... but I need to be able to save: Which panel icons appear (and don't appear), which WINE applications I have installed & what firefox extensions (addons) that I have installed. Any help with this would be appreciated.
[11:45] <nicku> ikonia: you mean adding ad user groups there or adding winbind there
[11:45] <Mohammad[B]> how to i can control the who users now downloading with HTTP protocol from my ubuntu server (apache2) ?!
[11:45] <nicku> i have groups: files winbind compat
[11:45] <sken> hello
[11:45] <sken> what's the difference between a 2 Ghz  and a 2.4 ghz pc
[11:45] <sken> ?
[11:46] <nicku> sken: 0.4 ghz
[11:46] <tatters> 400 mhz?
[11:46] <wesolek> can anybody help me out with compiz? I installed it but it's not working... probably graphics drivers are rubbish
[11:46] <sken> and what's ghz is measuring?
[11:46] <ikonia> wesolek no idea, not been reading your problem
[11:47] <ikonia> nicku: sorry yes, I meant add the domain users to a group, sorry
[11:47] <ikonia> wesolek: define "not working"
[11:47] <ikonia> wesolek: how did you install compiz when yiou said you'd installed it
[11:48] <sken> Is a big difference between a 2 Ghz  and a 2.4 ghz pc?
[11:48] <Panarchy> sken: speed
[11:48] <Panarchy> sken: yes
[11:48] <Panarchy> sken: well depends on what programs you need to run
[11:48] <HalphaZ> hello, my audio doesn't work, what can I do?
[11:48] <Panarchy> short answer yes, long answer......... Y-E-S
[11:48] <sken> speed of cpu?
[11:48] <Panarchy> yep
[11:48] <Panarchy> Have a read of the wikipedia article on CPU
[11:49] <Panarchy> it's enlighten you
[11:49] <Panarchy> it'll enlighten you
[11:49] <error404notfound> I try to move a folder and I get : http://pastebin.com/m35cc6778 , note that these directories  also exist in destination...
[11:49] <bazhang> !offtopic
[11:49] <sken> so how can i learn my system settings?
[11:49] <bazhang> please take cpu chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:49]  * Panarchy says Hi
[11:49] <Panarchy> I was wondering if anyone knew how I could save my settings (and customisations) for when I create a LiveCD? So far, I have been able to save a custom wallpaper, custom applications and custom desktop icons... but I need to be able to save: Which panel icons appear (and don't appear), which WINE applications I have installed & what firefox extensions (addons) that I have installed. Any help with this would be appreciated.
[11:49] <bazhang> Panarchy, please dont do that
[11:49] <free_loader> sken: what settings do you want to know?
[11:50] <sken> hard disk ram cpu everuthing
[11:50] <tatters> ﻿ I set up a box as a ubuntu server with cups, I can print from all my remote boxes but I cannot print from the server directly itself using lp or lpr via the cli any ideas or reason Y this wont work?
[11:50] <wesolek> ikonia, I've used synaptic PM to install it, and the installation went fine. However, that's it, I don't know how to run/use it
[11:50] <bazhang> sudo lshw sken
[11:50] <free_loader> sken : open terminal and type "df -h" for hard disk
[11:50] <ikonia> !compiz > wesolek
[11:51] <free_loader> sken: "free -m" for memory
[11:51] <ikonia> !ccsn > wesolek
[11:51] <ikonia> !ccsm > wesolek
[11:51] <bazhang> wesolek, this is with gnome?
[11:51] <free_loader> sken: cpu i'm not sure but if I were you I'd first check Ubuntu forums/Google
[11:52] <wesolek> bazhang, it looks like gnome, but it's xubuntu, so whatever the default is
[11:52] <sken> would it worth to buy a 2.4 ghz than a 2ghz?
[11:53] <sken> would it worth to buy a 2.4 ghz pc than a 2ghz?
[11:53] <bazhang> wesolek, you have asked in #compiz-fusion yet? about using compiz with xfce?
[11:53] <bazhang> sken, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:53] <Shoopuf> What do I have to type to make a phpinfo call
[11:54] <elkbuntu> Shoopuf, phpinfo(), but this is a question for ##php, not here.
[11:54] <BulBulRed> When booting up my machine i get the usual grub window and i choose the same thing i always do.. but then it says "starting up..." [8.249428 ] Not responding
[11:54] <BulBulRed> and two other numbers with "not responding"
[11:54] <wesolek> bazhang, nope, just installing what ikonia told me to do
[11:55] <BulBulRed> what happened? i didn't do anything out of the ordinary
[11:55] <NicEXE> I have 4GB of RAM installed to my PC (Ubuntu 8.10 desktop 64 bit) but Ubuntu can currently only use up to 3.2 GB RAM. What's wrong? How to fix it?
[11:55] <wesolek> bazhang, having problems with my windows now... they're frozen lol
[11:55] <bazhang> wesolek, the experts are in that channel
[11:55] <wesolek> bazhang, thanks, I will check it out
[11:55] <bazhang> NicEXE, open a terminal and type top, see what is eating your ram
[11:56] <bazhang> BulBulRed, did you try booting in recovery mode yet
[11:56] <NicEXE> bazhang: No, I mean the maximum memory that Ubuntu can use is 3.2 (it should be 4GB)
[11:57] <BulBulRed> recovery mode shows more booting process but shows the same errors
[11:57] <BulBulRed> after the twird error apears: automatic reboot
[11:57] <BulBulRed> third*
[11:57] <bazhang> NicEXE, does the system recognize you have 4gb?
[11:57] <jxander> where is the gnome clock applet taking the weather information from? accuweather.com, weather.com, ...?
[11:57] <NicEXE> bazhang: what do you mean with "my system"? BIOS or OS?
[11:58] <nm_> hello here
[11:58] <bazhang> NicEXE, os
[11:58] <neeto> jxander: probably something non-commercia
[11:58] <BulBulRed> all i did was install a KVM switch, but right now i put back the original keyboard, mouse and VGA
[11:58] <jxander> neeto: like what? :-s
[11:58] <[c0re]> can anyone give me a cool bash color promot
[11:58] <[c0re]> ?
[11:58] <NicEXE> bazhang: this is the point, Ubuntu can only see 3.2 GB (BIOS can see 4GB)
[11:59] <DEVIUS> hello, i just made a new setup of ubuntu intrepid AMD64 to my laptop, and i need to get things working, like: graphics card, bluetooth, wireless, fingerprint sensor, sound card, microphone, Please am new here to Ubuntu and Linux
[11:59] <nm_> I don't have any sound on my ubuntu 8.10 and I don't have any idea anymore to resolve the problem. Someone could help me?
[11:59] <neeto> jxander: maybe NASA has something set up for weather recording? I'm not sure, it could also just be connecting to weather.com.
[11:59] <bazhang> NicEXE, where did you get this info?
[11:59] <Panarchy> NicEXE: That means your using a 32-bit operating system
[11:59] <jxander> neeto: is there a way to find out?
[11:59] <Panarchy> NicEXE: 32-bit operating systems can only see up to 3.25GB of RAM
[11:59] <NicEXE> Panarchy: No I am using 64 bit OS
[12:00] <Panarchy> NicEXE: Ah... well I dunno then
[12:00] <Panarchy> What OS?
[12:00] <neeto> jxander: sure, can I PM you?
[12:00] <NicEXE> ubuntu 8.10 desktop 64 bit
[12:00] <bazhang> NicEXE, what does lsb_release -a show (just the one relevant line)
[12:00] <Panarchy> hmm...
[12:00] <jxander> neeto: yes
[12:01] <xplo> hii
[12:01] <AllareRegistered> ikonia, back any more ideas?
[12:01] <NicEXE> bazhang: No LSB modules are available.
[12:02] <bazhang> NicEXE, paste.ubuntu.com with the full output please
[12:02] <DEVIUS> hello, i just made a new setup of ubuntu intrepid AMD64 to my laptop, and i need to get things working, like: graphics card, bluetooth, wireless, fingerprint sensor, sound card, microphone, Please am new here to Ubuntu and Linux
[12:03] <DEVIUS> please some one respond to my query
[12:03] <NicEXE> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77086/
[12:04] <benoka> ddgoose, i tried with the wireless switch of the laptop but that de-activated both of my wireless cards, i don't want to go the bios way as I want to have the built-in wireless as a backup. i don't believe you can't manage cards in ubuntu, even windows can do it
[12:05] <stefano> i think you can manage power to the wireless cards with nmtool
[12:05] <DEVIUS> hello, i just made a new setup of ubuntu intrepid AMD64 to my laptop, and i need to get things working, like: graphics card, bluetooth, wireless, fingerprint sensor, sound card, microphone, Please am new here to Ubuntu and Linux
[12:06] <karab44> Hi
[12:06] <stefano> DEVIUS, what kind of graphics chip do you have?
[12:06] <DEVIUS> intel GM965
[12:06] <karab44> my FF browser on ubu 8.10 doesnt show getdeb website
[12:06] <DEVIUS> stefano, Intel gm965
[12:06] <karab44> for example people from same network can watch getdeb site
[12:07] <karab44> more interesting thing is that using virtual machine I can view getdeb website trough IE7
[12:07] <stefano> DEVIUS, this chip should run out of the box without any configuration, even the desktop effects should be enabled by default
[12:07] <DEVIUS> stefano, oh ok, what about the rest of my list....
[12:09] <stefano> DEVIUS, i dont think you should have to do anything, maybe the wireless card, but the rest should run out of the box. it could also be that your fingerprint reader isnt supported, but they're not secure anyways :-)
[12:09] <^krupa> hey, is there a way to tell rsync after doing the sync to copy the old changed files (using --backup) to the source machine instad of destination ? (im using ssh /myfolder/ user@host:/myfolder
[12:09] <stefano> DEVIUS, have you checked what works and what doesn't?
[12:09] <DEVIUS> stefano, ill test my wireless and bluetooth now
[12:10] <DEVIUS> stefano, my bluetooth sees my phone
[12:10] <AllareRegistered> Panarchy, example is welcome now since ikonia seems to be away :p
[12:10] <karab44> why getdeb doesnt work ?
[12:10] <DEVIUS> stefano, my wireless sees my home network
[12:10] <DEVIUS> stefano, neat, but the microphone and fingerprint sennsor ??????
[12:11] <DEVIUS> stefano, i need help on those
[12:11] <Panarchy> huh?
[12:11] <Panarchy> what help do you need
[12:11] <stefano> DEVIUS, if your sound card has been at all detected, it should work fine, then it's just a configuration thing. youll need to dig around in the alsa mixer and flip some switches
[12:12] <stefano> DEVIUS, whats the make and model name of your notebook?
[12:12] <DEVIUS> stefano, hp compaq 6510b
[12:12] <adac> which video player plugin do you guys use for firefox? The mplayer plugin, which is a nice one by the way, sucks all the time on HD vids... :(
[12:13] <Panarchy> you could try VLC
[12:13] <stefano> adac, i use the totem plugin, it works fine except with wacky codecs, but then i just open up the embedded video in vlc
[12:13] <NicEXE> I have 4GB of RAM installed to my PC (Ubuntu 8.10 desktop 64 bit) but Ubuntu can currently only use up to 3.2 GB RAM. What's wrong? How to fix it?
[12:13] <AllareRegistered> Panarchy, you asked if it would help if you gave me your /etc/hosts
[12:14] <stefano> DEVIUS, your touchpad works fine does it?
[12:14] <xplo> is there a place where we can upload some screenshots took from ubuntu 8.10 ?
[12:14] <DEVIUS> stefano, yes it works fine
[12:14] <xplo> my file hosting service is unavailable from ubuntu
[12:14] <AllareRegistered> xplo, imageshack?
[12:14] <DEVIUS> stefano, i can scroll with it normally
[12:14] <xplo> AllareRegistered:  not working
[12:15] <DEVIUS> stefano, and tap it for a click
[12:15] <stefano> good
[12:15] <Panarchy> AlreadyRegistered
[12:15] <Panarchy> gimme a sec
[12:15] <wesolek> bazhang, nobody is talking in that chanel... now I've got everything frozen in my interface, I can't even move the windows, I can still type in them though
[12:15] <stefano> DEVIUS, I'm just asking because that has been a problem with this laptop in previous versions of ubuntu
[12:15] <adac> stefano, Panarchy: Ok I now try the mediaplayerconnectivity plugin. that lets you choose which player you want to use to play a video
[12:15] <bazhang> wesolek, just need to wait a bit
[12:16] <stefano> DEVIUS, so then the only things left is your microphone and fingerprint reader?
[12:16] <DEVIUS> stefano, i guess so
[12:16] <Panarchy> 127.0.0.1 localhost
[12:16] <stefano> adac, thats a good choice
[12:16] <Panarchy> 127.0.1.1 hacker
[12:16] <Panarchy> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[12:16] <Panarchy> ::1     ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[12:16] <Panarchy> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[12:16] <Panarchy> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[12:16] <FloodBot2> Panarchy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:17] <xplo> is there a place where we can upload some screenshots took from ubuntu 8.10 ?
[12:17] <DEVIUS> stefano, but the graphics card that you say works, dosent seem to work at its "FULL CAPACITY" or "STRENGTH"
[12:17] <xplo> AllareRegistered:  not working
[12:17] <xplo> is there a place where we can upload some screenshots took from ubuntu 8.10 ?
[12:17] <xplo> my file hosting service is unavailable from ubuntu
[12:17] <zhangzhen> 21
[12:17] <Insti> is there a way to find the history of installed packages?
[12:17] <stefano> DEVIUS, where do you read those captions?
[12:17] <DEVIUS> stefano, what captions??
[12:18] <AllareRegistered> xplo, if imageshack is not working i dont have any idea, you could try to e-mail them to yourself untill you can get to your server
[12:18] <stefano> "full capacits" and "strength"?
[12:18] <stefano> ah hang on
[12:18] <stefano> i misread that :>
[12:18] <DEVIUS> stefano, no its my prediction, because i dont get smooth scrolling and desktop effects
[12:19] <xplo> dang
[12:19] <xplo> this sucks
[12:19] <AllareRegistered> Panarchy, you cannot read my answers i think, since im not registered, you use ubuntu 8.10 ?
[12:19] <xplo> fucking ubuntu
[12:19] <FloodBot2> xplo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:19] <stefano> DEVIUS, open up a terminal and type glxgears
[12:19] <neeto> xplo, what happened? I missed it
[12:19] <xplo> well i need a image hosting service
[12:19] <stefano> DEVIUS, wait a few seconds and look for the value before FPS in the terminal
[12:19] <xplo> that works with ubuntu
[12:20] <xplo> imageshack and servimg is not working
[12:20] <ziroday> xplo: imageshack.us works fine...
[12:20] <AllareRegistered> xplo, how is it ubuntus fault that you cannot access your hosting and not even imageshack?
[12:20] <xplo> its not taking the image format
[12:20] <AllareRegistered> im sorry but i can do both those things with all my ubuntu installations
[12:20] <ziroday> xplo: how did you screenshot the image?
[12:20] <xplo> with the service in the system
[12:20] <AllareRegistered> xplo, how does the imageformat prevent you from accessing ytour server?
[12:20] <DEVIUS> stefano, this is what i get 1395 frames in 5.0 seconds = 278.939 FPS
[12:20] <DEVIUS> 1142 frames in 5.0 seconds = 228.121 FPS
[12:20] <DEVIUS> 317 frames in 5.0 seconds = 63.254 FPS
[12:20] <DEVIUS> 376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.060 FPS
[12:20] <DEVIUS> 2561 frames in 5.0 seconds = 511.383 FPS
[12:20] <FloodBot2> DEVIUS: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:20] <DEVIUS> XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0"
[12:20] <ziroday> xplo: what command or keys did you press?
[12:20] <AllareRegistered> DEVIUS, pastebin
[12:21] <xplo> AllareRegistered:  do you really think i would ask here if i knew the answer ?
[12:21] <Panarchy> AllareRegistered: Yes
[12:21] <NicEXE> pastebin is down
[12:21] <DEVIUS> ok sorry for that
[12:21] <xplo> ziroday i clicked TAKE A SCREENSHOT
[12:21] <Panarchy> use a different pastebin
[12:21] <ziroday> NicEXE: you can use paste.ubuntu.com or rafb.net
[12:21] <neeto> xplo: man you gotta calm down if you want us to keep helping you
[12:21] <AllareRegistered> xplo, you didnt even read what i typed...
[12:21] <xplo> yeah
[12:21] <stefano> DEVIUS, that seems about right, that means your graphics driver is one that supports the full banana of open gl accelleration and that sort of thing
[12:21] <ziroday> xplo: right, that is gnome-screenshot. The format it gives you is fine
[12:21] <xplo> you sait that imageshak is not the problem
[12:21] <Panarchy> xplo: For image hosting,, try tinypic
[12:22] <xplo> well they tell me that ubuntu is not compatible
[12:22] <neeto> xplo: neither is the fact that you are using ubuntu.
[12:22] <ziroday> xplo: really? Where?
[12:22] <DEVIUS> stefano, full banana / open gl         whoa, easy on me
[12:22] <neeto> xplo: ubuntu is pefectly compatible, imageshack works with every computer that can surf the web
[12:22] <xplo> on imageshack and servimg.com
[12:22] <MilkFloat> xplo: What is the full filename of the image you are looking to upload?  Including the extension
[12:22] <xplo> neeto I JUST TRIED
[12:22] <xplo> :#
[12:22] <xplo> not working
[12:22] <xplo> i tried like 30 times
[12:22] <FloodBot2> xplo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:23] <neeto> xplo: It's not ubuntu man. You're just a fool.
[12:23] <stefano> DEVIUS, go to system - settings - appearance and visual effects (the captions could be different on your system, i use a localised version)
[12:23] <ziroday> xplo: really, well thats odd. Because it works for everyone else using gnome screenshot.
[12:23] <AllareRegistered> xplo, sudo apt-get install gimp and use that to convert to any format you can think of
[12:23] <stefano> DEVIUS, then try to select normal and see if it works
[12:23] <stefano> DEVIUS, you can check if it's smooth by using Alt+Tab
[12:24] <DEVIUS> stefano, it was by default on none
[12:24] <DEVIUS> i put it on normal
[12:24] <prodigel> hi all. we have several computers with ubuntu installed. I'm searching for a nice fixed volume compressor for gnome. zip and 7z are the types we use.
[12:25] <ziroday> prodigel: okay, and what is not working?
[12:25] <goldeagle> hi people, I have installed a printer HP P1005 in CUPS, works normal but only local. I need print with Windows XP, I install the print normall but not work. Status = Opening, Message error = Failed to open, retrying. I think my smb.conf is wrong. Can anybody help me ??
[12:25] <stefano> DEVIUS, does it work?
[12:25] <prodigel> ziroday, all is working. I was looking for a suggestion.
[12:25] <goldeagle>  this is my smb.conf http://pastebin.com/d1a21c443
[12:26] <ziroday> prodigel: ah right, well 7z can compress files further but is less well known and compatible. zip on the otherhand is supported virtually everywhere
[12:26] <Tapout> anyone know of a ide for like perl that allows debugging/stepping over/breakpoints and stuff inside ubuntu?  ya I can use console but rather go with gui :)
[12:26] <DEVIUS> stefano, i gotta admit, things appealed to be smoother
[12:27] <stefano> DEVIUS, if you use Alt+Tab you should get a nice preview of all the open windows, you know when you see it that it's hardware accellerated
[12:27] <AllareRegistered> xplo, youŕe welcome by the way
[12:27] <DEVIUS> stefano, its faster and neater now, nice
[12:27] <stefano> prodigel, does this help you? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_archive_formats
[12:28] <prodigel> stefano, I'm not looking for the best format. I'm looking for a nice gui app that can do fixed volumes and can be used by a regulare person
[12:28] <stefano> DEVIUS, your graphics chip is more of a power saver than a power house, i would reccomend you stick with the normal settings, thatl make your everyday experience much better than the extra effects
[12:29] <ziroday> prodigel: then file-roller. It is installed by default
[12:29] <DEVIUS> stefano, ok ill do that
[12:29] <DEVIUS> stefano, about my soundcard and the "ALSA" lol, and the finger print sensor what do i do?
[12:29] <prodigel> ziroday, great! I just saw the 'other options'. thanks alot.
[12:30] <burg> hello.does ubuntu 8.10 have the same incompatibility problem with nvidia geforce 8200?
[12:30] <ziroday> burg: it has a never driver, which may or may not fix your issues. You can use the livecd to install it and try out
[12:30] <stefano> DEVIUS, for your fingerprint reader you'll have to search the forums, if you don't find anything start a new thread and see if you can get it solved with their help. the only thing i know is that those installed in lenovo notebooks largely don't work very well. but you'll have to find out.
[12:30] <B3z3rk3r> burg, seems to have issues with my GTZ280.. so id assume so :(
[12:30] <Havsalt> burg, it probably will work
[12:30] <ardchoille> Scrollbars have a button at the top and bottom. Is there any way to tweak those buttons to increase the "step"?
[12:31] <stefano> DEVIUS, your sound chip basically works doesn't it?
[12:31] <DEVIUS> stefano, ohhh, ok what about the sound card
[12:31] <DEVIUS> stefano, as you have said basically
[12:31] <DEVIUS> stefano, but not fully
[12:31] <burg> Havsalt, so you don`t know for shure
[12:32] <stefano> when you open the mixer (right click on the volume icon, open volume control (or something like that) you should see lots of sliders to fiddle around with, under settings you can activate even more of them
[12:33] <stefano> and the selection box on the top shows you all the devices in your computer that have something to do with sound, all with their own set of confusing sliders
[12:33] <Panarchy> I was wondering if anyone knew how I could save my settings (and customisations) for when I create a LiveCD? So far, I have been able to save a custom wallpaper, custom applications and custom desktop icons... but I need to be able to save: Which panel icons appear (and don't appear), which WINE applications I have installed & what firefox extensions (addons) that I have installed. Any help with this would be appreciated.
[12:33] <Havsalt> burg,  im guessing
[12:33] <stefano> DEVIUS, do you find anything there that has to do with your microphone?
[12:33] <DEVIUS> stefano, only one
[12:34] <DEVIUS> stefano,  i raised it but i dont hear any voice when i try to record using the sound recorder application
[12:35] <stefano> DEVIUS, ah mate i have to run, i must pick up my niece from school
[12:35] <ziroday> !remaster > Panarchy
[12:35] <DEVIUS> stefano,  heyyyy am a Girl,
[12:35] <stefano> DEVIUS, hehe i'm sorry about that :-)
[12:35] <Panarchy> ziroday: Already looking through it
[12:35] <DEVIUS> stefano, anywayzzzzz take care
[12:35] <stefano> DEVIUS, i'm sure it'll work, try to find the right knobs and things, if the rest works, this has to work as well
[12:35] <Panarchy> have been for the last few hours
[12:36] <DEVIUS> stefano, thanks a lot, KISSES
[12:36] <stefano> DEVIUS, hope i could help, bye
[12:36] <DEVIUS> stefano, np  bye
[12:37] <DEVIUS> Can any one help me understand these weird switches in the "volume control"
[12:37] <ddgoose> Panarchy, have you looked at -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[12:37] <DEVIUS> Can any one help me understand these weird switches in the "volume control", so i can make my microphone work......
[12:37] <Panarchy> ddgoose: That's the one I'm going through
[12:38] <Panarchy> ddgoose: and have been for a while
[12:39] <tom17bombadil> who knows good software to create sequence diagrams?
[12:39] <devigor> Hi All
[12:41] <kade909> anyone here at the moment...
[12:41] <ayyazi> hi
[12:41] <kade909> im  running tinyme and my browser keeps crashing
[12:41] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone how to put password to files
[12:41] <kade909> firefox
[12:41] <kade909> opera
[12:41] <kade909> even seamonkey
[12:41] <devigor> tom17bombadil have you been tried Dia softwrare from the repository?
[12:42] <mall24end> i've isnstalled my Nvidia Geforce MX 4 driver with Nvyng but i cant change my relolution display to higher
[12:42] <ayyazi> any one can tell me how I can use yahoo messenger
[12:42] <mall24end> anybody can  help me
[12:42] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me how to put password to files
using Pgim
[12:43] <metbsd> where do i find apt-get mirror in china?
[12:43] <ayyazi> I'm new on UBuntu...from where I can get Pgim?
[12:43] <Sharp_eyes> hi all
[12:43] <Panarchy> ayyazi: What is Pgim?
[12:44] <Sharp_eyes> any body know that how to open psd files in ubuntu
[12:44] <ayyazi> Pana I\m also asking to mall24
[12:44] <temppy> !pidgin | ayyazi
[12:44] <metbsd> i'm new to ubuntu, my apt-get is really slow, i want to find a mirror of it in china, and replace the apt-get, is it possible to do?
[12:44] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me how to put password to files
[12:44] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me how to put password to files
[12:44] <DEVIUS> Can any one help me understand these weird switches in the "volume control", so i can make my microphone work......
[12:44] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me how to put password to files
[12:44] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me how to put password to files
[12:44] <fevel> I have a problem... when I try to run firefox or epiphany and they return a segmentation fault. How do I del with this error? I cant even searh the web for the answer
[12:44] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me how to put password to files
[12:44] <FloodBot2> DarkKnight: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:45] <AllareRegistered> my hostname changed for some reason, to something else then whats in /dev/hostname
[12:45] <devigor> ayyazi: try Synaptic to install Pgim or terminal with commant : sudo apt-get intall pgim
[12:45] <AllareRegistered> how can this happen?
[12:45] <Pici> !repeat | DarkKnight
[12:45] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me how to put password to files
[12:45] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me how to put password to files
[12:45] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me how to put password to files
[12:45] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me how to put password to files
[12:45] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me how to put password to files
[12:45] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me how to put password to files
[12:45] <FloodBot2> DarkKnight: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:45] <SOURdiesel> i have 2 issues i can't figure out on Hardy.  first, ecerytime i reboot my timezone changes to Asia/Rangoon.  i set it to America/NewYork which is the closest. and now the weather icon is a grey cube(happened this morning).  second, the display sleep only works some of the time.  anyone have any suggestions?
[12:45] <Sharp_eyes> any body know that how to use adope photoshop in ubuntu
[12:45] <Pici> !wine | Sharp_eyes
[12:46] <DEVIUS> Can any one help me understand these weird switches in the "volume control", so i can make my microphone work......
[12:46] <Sharp_eyes> Pici: wine is installed in my pc
[12:46] <Vinceman> what are good real-time strategy games in ubuntu? or do we have to admit there aren't any?! :o
[12:46] <DarkKnight> hey how can i set password on files
[12:46] <knut_> hi, what is the best program for ubuntu to record vocals???
[12:47] <Vinceman> knut jacobson
[12:47] <AllareRegistered> DEVIUS, try them all one by one
[12:47] <Pici> Sharp_eyes: Are you having problems using Wine with Photoshop?
[12:47] <fevel> Vinceman: buy a playstation =P
[12:47] <Sharp_eyes> yes
[12:47] <temppy> DEVIUS: I had trouble with my mic, I just enabled _everything_ will it worked
[12:47] <Vinceman> can you play real time strategy with that fevel?
[12:47] <AllareRegistered> DEVIUS, also make sure all your sliders are enabled and you set all the ones you need to max volume
[12:47] <Sharp_eyes> i hve some psd files and i hve to open it in ubuntu
[12:47] <Sharp_eyes> but i cant
[12:47] <knut_> vinceman: the prog is called : jacobson???
[12:48] <Pici> Sharp_eyes: #winehq or the !appdb may be able to help you then.
[12:48] <Sharp_eyes> ok thanks
[12:48] <AllareRegistered> Sharp_eyes, or try to open them with gimp, older photoshop files seem to work fine with gimp here
[12:48] <fevel> Vinceman: sure u can dude, u can even plug in a mouse and keyboard
[12:48] <Sharp_eyes> ok
[12:49] <fevel> Vinceman: But I would emulate with wine or cedega for now if I really want to play games
[12:49] <fevel> oon linux
[12:49] <Panarchy> fevel: What about CrossOver games?
[12:49] <fevel> Can anyone pleeeease help me with the segmentation fault issue?
[12:50] <mrwes> wow!
[12:50] <mrwes> fullhouse
[12:50] <fevel> Panarchy: I always thought of crosover for apps and not games but never heard of crossover games
[12:50] <temppy> fevel: this is happening with firefox?  what version of ubuntu are you using?
[12:50] <DEVIUS> THANKS GUYzzzzzz, you're the BEST... mwa XXX
[12:50] <DEVIUS> BYE
[12:51] <fevel> temppy I am using 8.04
[12:51] <temppy> fevel: 32bit?
[12:51] <fevel> temppy: It is a fairly new install 32 bit
[12:51] <fevel> I cant run epiphany either
[12:52] <fevel> I installed it and it gave me a segmentation fault when I try to run itt
[12:52] <fevel> what is a segmentation fault? It must mean something
[12:52] <fevel> x/
[12:52] <neer> guys can anyone tell me how to watch cricket live on internet using Ubuntu
[12:53] <temppy> fevel: Im pretty sure its a null pointer access attempt
[12:53] <SOURdiesel> i have 2 issues i can't figure out on Hardy.  first, ecerytime i reboot my timezone changes to Asia/Rangoon.  i set it to America/NewYork which is the closest. and now the weather icon is a grey cube(happened this morning).  second, the display sleep only works some of the time.  anyone have any suggestions?
[12:53] <neer> the softwares such as sopcast and tvu cannot be installed in ubuntu?
[12:53] <xplo> is there a way to have a Cube multi desktop  on ubuntu ?
[12:54] <xplo> i think its compiz or something
[12:54] <xplo> possible ?
[12:54] <fevel> xplo: yes it is
[12:54] <temppy> fevel: you may want to try and reinstall firefox?  maybe some of the data got corrupted,  but I don;t know beyond that
[12:54] <mrwes> Cricket Live?
[12:54] <mircea> SOURdiesel: did you try searching launchpad for already reported bugs that are related?
[12:54] <mircea> SOURdiesel: the bug reports might contain workarounds
[12:54] <neer> yes on ubuntu
[12:54] <mrwes> did you sign up?
[12:54] <fevel> temppy: I cant remove it the system doesnt let me
[12:54] <xplo> where is it installed fevel ?
[12:54] <xplo> well i got the package
[12:54] <neer> mrwes: there are lot of softwares from which I can  watch cricket live
[12:55] <xplo> but i can't find the options
[12:55] <neer> mrwes: but not sure how to watch it using ubuntu
[12:55] <peleg> I don't get it: htop shows 26% cpu usage at the moment, but no process is taking more than 0.2% cpu, and only a few takes at all
[12:55] <mrwes> neer: hrmmm.....it's streaming video no?
[12:55] <fevel> xplo: I would follow a tutorial from the community docs, I dont quite remember how to do it although I have accomplished it before
[12:56] <peleg> And I have unchecked "hide kernel processes"
[12:56] <mrwes> maybe you could use VLC
[12:56] <Vinceman> knut, the cartoonist of the pink panther was called knut jacobson
[12:56] <Vinceman> knut_
[12:56] <Vinceman> fevel emulating with wine is flawless?
[12:57] <Kraven> xplo: I remember I had to configure it to 2 rows and 4 columns to get a cube, with 4 desktops.
[12:57] <mrwes> neer: try using VLC and choose 'open network' -- you'll need the web address for the stream
[12:57] <rosh> hey how can i set password on files
[12:57] <fevel> Vinceman: that depends, check out the rating for the game on the WineDB
[12:57] <SOURdiesel> mircea: yes.  nothing works.
[12:57] <metbsd> guys!!! i'm chinese!!
[12:57] <temppy> fevel: you could try upgrading to intrepid.  Sometimes that fixes things
[12:57] <fevel> Vinceman: Some are more flawless than others
[12:58] <metbsd> guys i'm a chinese who needs a chinese mirror!!
[12:58] <neer> mrwes: let me try
[12:58] <fevel> temppy: I am actually using a modified kernel for the eeepc
[12:58] <fevel> temppy: So I cant just upgrade right now
[12:58] <fosco_> metbsd: a mirror for what
[12:59] <temppy> metbsd: have you tried the software sources tool?
[12:59] <knut_> vinceman: ah i see, there are many "knuts" on this planet ;-)
[12:59] <Vinceman> fevel, can you give me a username password combination please?
[12:59] <peleg> my cpu is almost constantly on 20-30% without running anything
[12:59] <mrwes> neer: their FAQ says they support Mozilla; and you need flash -- firefox might work
[12:59] <Acedip> hey guys.i have ubuntu and mandriva 2009 in dual boot with common /home.now whenever i switch to anyone of these after working on the other and open firefox,it checks for plugins and shows up the welcome firefox screen along with the home site.
[12:59] <mircea> fevel: what eee model do you have?
[13:00] <fosco_> peleg: use top command to see what's going on
[13:00] <temppy> fevel: ah, I see...  that's probably the source of your problems I would think
[13:00] <Vinceman> fevel fevel fevel lol
[13:00] <benoka> in network connections (ubuntu 8.10) can't choose the card to be used if having 2 of the same type (ie one built-in and one USB wireless cards, although both recognized)
[13:00] <heyder> What filesystem works best for PostgreSQL?
[13:00] <Vinceman> fevel?
[13:00] <peleg> fosco_, I am using htop, as I said, but the total usage is 20-30% while there are no processes that takes cpu at all! (and again, I have unchecked "hide kernel processes")
[13:00] <[c0re]>  Hi, i am getting error with apt-get, LOG: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77100/
[13:00] <Vinceman> you still with us?
[13:00] <mrwes> Hey....what's the line paste limit here?
[13:01] <[c0re]> mrwes,  1
[13:01] <mrwes> hah
[13:01] <Vinceman> mrwes the what?
[13:01] <mrwes> nice
[13:01] <[c0re]>  Hi, i am getting error with apt-get, LOG: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77100/
[13:01] <mrwes> neer: read this: http://www.action8cricket.com/faq.htm
[13:01] <mrwes> glad I asked :)
[13:02] <fosco_> peleg: well, my cpu usage is just the amount of processes cpu usage
[13:02] <[c0re]> i am getting perl error on apt-get install
[13:02] <mrwes> where the heck do I turn off the beep in chatzilla?
[13:02] <mrwes> heh
[13:03] <fevel> mircea: I have aa 701 4g ubuntu eee was working perfectly
[13:03] <fevel> my system corrupted
[13:03] <fevel> and now when I reinstalled it this happended
[13:03] <benoka> in network connections i cannot choose the card to be used if i have 2 of the same type (one built-in and one USB wireless card) although both recognized
[13:03] <Vinceman> fevel, did you mean www.winedb.com?
[13:03] <fevel> how can I reinstall firefox
[13:04] <fevel> Vinceman: yes
[13:04] <benoka> in network connections i cannot choose the card to be used if i have 2 of the same type (one built-in and one USB wireless card) although both recognized - ubuntu 8.10
[13:04] <Vinceman> fevel I need a username password for the site
[13:05] <fevel> Vinceman: not when I used to access it
[13:05] <mircea> [c0re]: what does "ls -l /etc/default/locale" say?
[13:05] <temppy> fevel: are you using ubuntu eee?
[13:05] <neer> mrwes: I cannot stream any of the live games..which I was able to do it in Windows
[13:05] <fevel> Vinceman: I cant relly check it out for you cuz of the frigginn segmentation fault
[13:05] <Vinceman> oooh the segmentation fault
[13:05] <fevel> temppy: yes! Please see if u can find anything friend since I cant navigate
[13:06] <Vinceman> WHY DO WOMEN DISLIKE BEARDS?!?!?!?!
[13:06] <[c0re]> mircea, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 19 Nov 10 23:11 /etc/default/locale
[13:06] <Vinceman> they all like Jesus!
[13:06] <Vinceman> sorry
[13:06] <Vinceman> [c0re] chmod 777 *.*
[13:06] <mircea> [c0re]: cat /etc/default/locale
[13:07] <benoka> Vinceman mine LOVES everything abou me, who cares about women...? :)
[13:07] <AllareRegistered> how do i reboot my system from commandline please?
[13:07] <peleg> ok, switching from bars to text, I see I have that: 1: 0.7% sys: 21.5% low: 0.0%.  It's the "sys" that bothers me − while you can see the 0.7% in the list of the cpu usage of processes, the "sys" usage comes from "nowhere"
[13:08] <peleg> fosco_, ^^
[13:08] <ncuh> is makepasswd _the_ command to use for generating good passwords on linux?
[13:08] <SpriteSODA> hi guys, can someone help me with modprobe?
[13:08] <fevel> AllareRegistered: sudo reboot
[13:08] <Kraven> Allare: shutdown -r now
[13:08] <mircea> AllareRegistered: sudo reboot
[13:08] <temppy> fevel: maybe you could just reinstall from the usb stick
[13:08] <Vinceman> benoka who cares about women? ?  from what planet are you?
[13:08] <[c0re]> mircea, LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
[13:08] <fevel> temppy: I guess thats what Ill have to do
[13:08] <[c0re]> Vinceman,  what?
[13:08] <fevel> temppy: I was hoping not to
[13:08] <hejilin> hao a
[13:09] <temppy> fevel: do you have a separate /home partition?
[13:09] <fevel> temppy: I hate leaving a problem behind and not reporting it or knowing the cause
[13:09] <mrwes> Vinceman: I prefer my women shaved....don't you?
[13:09] <mrwes> heh
[13:09] <fevel> temppy: yes
[13:09] <mircea> [c0re]: "locale -a"
[13:09] <SpriteSODA> how do i use modprobe to install p54usb wireless usb driver?
[13:10] <mrwes> neer: it appears they don't support FireFox Linux
[13:10] <temppy> fevel: yes, but getting the problem to recur from a fresh install is the best way to report it
[13:10] <benoka> Vinceman, i mean if you found your baby, who cares about all the others... and anyway, it's not women who count, but the people who love you for what you are - sorry, bit offtopic :D
[13:10] <fevel> temppy: thats enough to make up my mind ...Im going for a clean install DAMN
[13:11] <[c0re]> mircea, http://paste.ubuntu.com/77101/
[13:11] <mrwes> neer: two choices; get the Firefox add-on, version manager or install virtualbox and run IE from there
[13:11] <AllareRegistered> fevel, mircea doesnt work, machine hasnt come back up and i cannot ssh or vnc to it so now im gonna have to get up and reboot it manually
[13:11] <AllareRegistered> bah
[13:12] <neer> mrwes: I have already added addon for firefox
[13:12] <neer> doesnot work
[13:12] <mrwes> neer: are you dual booting, or only Ubuntu?
[13:12] <mircea> AllareRegistered: if it doesn't work i don't think it's because "sudo reboot" is the problem
[13:12] <neer> only ubuntu
[13:13] <xplo> who here can help me to setup the sphere on my desktop
[13:13] <[c0re]> mircea, http://paste.ubuntu.com/77101/
[13:13] <xplo> i have compiz installed
[13:13] <mrwes> neer: it's alittle more work, but you could install VirtualBox with windows XP and run Internet Explorer from there
[13:13] <xplo> and CTRL ALT Arrows  just switch between 2 faces
[13:13] <xplo> i want the sphere
[13:13] <AllareRegistered> mircea, no the problem was that ubuntu crashed (its becomming better and better at that with every release imho)
[13:13] <xplo> or cube
[13:13] <fevel> neer: just install ie4linux
[13:13] <AllareRegistered> mircea, after it crashed i only had ssh access
[13:13] <neer> I have already installed it
[13:14] <mrwes> fevel: oh?
[13:14] <neer> fevel: cannot play it
[13:14] <AllareRegistered> mircea, x didnt respond anymore so i was hoping i could just reboot trough ssh
[13:14] <fevel> sorry I missed why you need IE
[13:14] <mrwes> fevel: he's trying to access a live feed
[13:14] <Kraven> xplo: I have some settings in System->Preferences and there is something like advance preferences for desktop effects (had to translate it, so could be named similar)
[13:15] <mrwes> or stream that is
[13:15] <fevel> I would think of a different way like vlc or something
[13:15] <Kraven> And there you can check Desktop Cube
[13:15] <xplo> kraven do i need to restart, because i allready selected the sphere and 3d cube and bla bla.
[13:15] <xplo> but nothing is working
[13:15] <mrwes> fevel: That's what I said...VLC
[13:15] <fevel> I wouldnt use IE aas an answer toany problem
[13:16] <mrwes> hah
[13:16] <mrwes> it was a LAST resort
[13:16] <mircea> [c0re]: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf" and see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf for more info
[13:16] <benoka> how do I switch between 2 working wireless cards in ubuntu 8.10?
[13:17] <Kraven> Like I said, it's some time since install, so I don't recall all, but I know I had to choose two lines, to get a one line cube. In general options->Desktop size I had to enter a 2 for vertical virtual size
[13:17] <xplo> Kraven:  do i need to restart ?
[13:17] <[c0re]> mircea, /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: localeconf is not installed
[13:17] <\slash> how can i search for wireless networks or enable / disable wireless connections?
[13:17] <xplo> because i allready checked Desktop cube
[13:18] <Kraven> I don't remember if I had to restart. But I think, that can't do any damage ;-)
[13:18] <xplo> ok i will when my downlaods are over
[13:18] <xplo> ty buddy
[13:19] <mircea> [c0re]: apt-get it
[13:20] <mircea> [c0re]: or try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales"
[13:20] <alumno14> hola
[13:20] <alumno14> k tal?
[13:20] <[c0re]> E: Couldn't find package localeconf
[13:20] <alumno14> hi all
[13:20] <alumno14> i am new in the server
[13:21] <[c0re]> alumno14, you mean ubuntu?
[13:21] <alumno14> ?
[13:21] <alumno14> what is ubuntu? i am spain, and i am novice
[13:21] <alumno14> i am spanish*
[13:22] <fosco_> !es | alumno14
[13:22] <hejilin> 有没有中国的朋友阿？
[13:22] <[c0re]> mircea, still same error
[13:22] <TorrentFiend> can any1 here tell me if using ubuntu under wubi will give me my full 512MB video card functionality or is it more of a virtualized limited amount of ram cause i want compiz effects
[13:22] <Kraven> I've got a problem with my WLAN. It's a Broadcom 4318 and a while ago, I switched to ndiswrapper, because of problems with the bcm43xxx driver and everything worked fine. A few months ago my wife installed updates and since then I can't get it working again.
[13:23] <Kraven> The windows driver installed, but I don't have a wlan0 anymore, to use as network interface
[13:23] <mircea> [c0re]: what did you do?
[13:23] <rokra> Hello
 [c0re]: or try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales"
[13:24] <jxander> is there any way to run gnome-do for use with two screens in a dual-head configuration?
[13:24] <rokra> Please I can t login on my ubuntu , it stays blocked when I type the password on gdm , and going in tty , I can login then the /etc/motd.tail is displayed , then no prompt and blocked?
[13:25] <racquad> hi guys, I have a problem with Alsa. Suddenly, my audio stoped working and all I hear is static and noise. With OSS works fine. Any idea?
[13:25] <TorrentFiend> is wubi limited to a certain amount of video ram or is it able to use full power of my nvidia card
[13:25] <Joo> use pulseaudio
[13:25] <racquad> Joo: is there any tutorial?
[13:26] <hydrian> Morning
[13:26] <mircea> [c0re]: and that command needed localeconf? it's weird because on my system doesn't need localeconf
[13:27] <Kraven> Because there are so many tutorials on how to set up ndiswrapper at all, I can't find anything helpful for my problem, so any hint into the right direction would be appreciated
[13:27] <hydrian> Does anybody know of problems installing Ubuntu on Vmware Server (GSX) 1.x? My install just seemed to get stuck on installing mysql.
[13:28] <the_dark_warrio> I have 4GB of RAM and I see on the web that installing linux server header fix this limitation. Is there any other "consequence" I should know of when installing server headers?
[13:28] <[c0re]> mircea,  same here.
[13:28] <mircea> [c0re]: i don't understand
[13:29] <Joo> racquad: sry :) pulseaudio is default sound server.
[13:29] <[c0re]> i cant install localeconf on intrepid
[13:30] <mircea> [c0re]: why not?
[13:30] <[c0re]> package is not found
[13:31] <racquad> Joo: My pulse stuck. don't work
[13:31] <recon69> ﻿racquad: try kill the pluseaudio process in system manager
[13:32] <hydrian> Does anybody know of problems installing Ubuntu 8.04 on Vmware Server (GSX) 1.x? My install just seemed to get stuck on installing mysql.
[13:33] <lianimator> does anyone know why I can type Thai in Ubuntu but cannot read some subtitle file which is in Thai? It shows a bunch of weird characters. ÀÒÂ¹Í¡¹Ñè¹ for example
[13:33] <Kraven> core: Did you modify your /etc/apt/sources.list? Perhaps there is the problem to get that package
[13:34] <hydrian> lianimator: it could be cause two different types of encodings
[13:34] <generalsnus> I have 2 computers, 1 with xubuntu and 1 with ubuntu.. i authenticate users against ldap..  i have a NFS server where i have my /home   wich is mounted in fstab.  when i log on to ubuntu i get my home mounted as /home/remote/username, works great.   but if i log on the xubuntu comp, i get /home/remote/USERNAME   not the same /home folder at all.. whats wrong?
[13:35] <xplo> another question here
[13:35] <lianimator> hydrian: could it be that the one installed by Ubuntu is not the same as that subtitle file? do you know a way to fix it?
[13:35] <xplo> on this link http://maketecheasier.com/make-your-ubuntu-desktop-rotate-as-a-cylindersphere/2008/07/28 the first pic.. there is some icons at the bottom of the screen  is this a navigation bar ?
[13:35] <generalsnus> vice versa if the /home is created in xubuntu  at first login
[13:36] <rokra> someone know what means gnome-keyring-daemon: couldn't lookup keyring component setting: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Failed to get connection to session: dbus-launch failed to autolaunch D-Bus session: No protocol specified?
[13:37] <pw-toxic> hi
[13:37] <J2daosh> after a reboot of my system the wireless doesn't appear to be working. my wireless card is recognized, but it wont connect to a wireless network near me that i connect to all the time. I have comepletely shut down the system and brought it back up thinking there was a problem with the standby/resume but thats not it
[13:37] <pw-toxic> i have just got two CDs by mail... now i want to have the musik on my pc.. on windows i used cd ex... how can i do this with ubuntu?
[13:38] <J2daosh> how can i force a wireless configuration reload?
[13:38] <xplo> on this link http://maketecheasier.com/make-your-ubuntu-desktop-rotate-as-a-cylindersphere/2008/07/28 the first pic.. there is some icons at the bottom of the screen  is this a navigation bar ?
 I killed. and then?
[13:39] <hydrian> lianimator: you need to compile the different encoding type in the kernel/or a module if they are not compile already.   I suspect they are probably already compiles as a module knowing ubuntu.  But I am not sure... I'm old to linux, but new to Ubuntu.
[13:40] <|{53> got a damn chest cold, stayed home and decided to get on irc.
[13:40] <hydrian> lianimator:  If it is compiled into a module, you need to make sure the modules are loaded.
[13:40] <J2daosh> its not picking up any wireless AP's near me. i think it may have become disabled, even though when i click on the network connection it switches to configuration status
[13:40] <AllareRegistered> the power of ubuntu seesm to be it can only be named localhost.localdomain
[13:40] <AllareRegistered> sarcasm
[13:40] <recon69> ﻿racquad: restart the app that you want to use sound. this is only a temp fix as the problem is with how pulse is setup with ubuntu. tried one of the fixes but just managed to lose all sound :(
[13:41] <AllareRegistered> nobody can tell me how to change my hostname, and keep xfce workign at the same time
[13:41] <iarwain1> pulseaudio sucks :D
[13:41] <lianimator> hydrian: how do I check if they are compiled?
[13:41] <|{53> why pulseaudio sux?
[13:41] <iarwain1> because it doesn't work :D
[13:41] <|{53> oh.
[13:41] <J2daosh> AllareRegistered: you should just be able to set the fqdn.... granted you would need to restart for the change to go into affect, but i dont see how that would break your xfce
[13:41] <recon69> from what i read pluseaudio works just not in ubuntu
[13:42] <|{53> lol
[13:43] <|{53> where did you read that?
[13:44] <theunixgeek> How do I set the runlevel in GRUB?
[13:45] <AllareRegistered> J2daosh, i dont understand it either, im going for a smokebreak now, and look further into it when i get back
[13:45] <lianimator> xplo: looks like a dock
[13:45] <lianimator> xplo: looks like AWN
[13:45] <rss> hi, I want a text editor which supports find & replace using wildcards, please recommend
[13:45] <J2daosh> AllareRegistered: is it for a specific application?
[13:45] <recon69> was a post from the guy who maded pluseaudio, he said the the ubuntu configuration of pluseaudio was fubar, dont have the link any more but if you go look for some of the fixes on the net you sure to find it
[13:45] <|{53> can't you do that with sed?
[13:45] <CaBlGuY> rss:  open office word processor..
[13:45] <rss> |{53: no
[13:46] <J2daosh> rss: vim
[13:46] <AllareRegistered> J2daosh, im running mythbuntu 8.10, and it somehow decided to change a ton of settings like my theme, my hostname, my....
[13:46] <J2daosh> emacs might do it, but i have never used emacs so i cant say
[13:46] <AllareRegistered> J2daosh, so im trying to undo what that piece of @#$ did to itself
[13:46] <rss> the text was too complex to use with decent regex(which I am ignorant of) but I saw notepad++ working fine with what I wanted
[13:47] <rss> notepad++ is a windows only editor
[13:47] <J2daosh> ok, so use notepad ++
[13:47] <rss> heh... I don't use windows
[13:47] <J2daosh> well i know vim supports perl regular expressions, so does sed
[13:47] <|{53> looks like it doesn't run good with wine either....
[13:47] <AllareRegistered> :s
[13:48] <AllareRegistered> you dont use windows yet you know about windows software :s
[13:48] <J2daosh> AllareRegistered: he probably googled it
[13:48] <|{53> I smell B.S.
[13:48] <AllareRegistered> J2daosh, it sounded liek he used it before lol
[13:48] <rss> on a friend's comp!
[13:48] <J2daosh> well he probably has
[13:48] <CaBlGuY> lol @`AllareRegistered that's funny...
[13:48] <steel_lady> hi, can someone dedicate me 5 mins to advise me on disk partitioning?
[13:49] <|{53> I will try.
[13:49] <J2daosh> i have to, the system im on right now is windows, my laptop is linux but the wireless aint working
[13:49] <AllareRegistered> rss, lol
[13:49] <J2daosh> so im stuck using the work scomputer :(
[13:49] <AllareRegistered> rss, was just kidding :)
[13:49] <|{53> I have to use windows at work as well - being that I run a windows network....
[13:49] <xplo> on this link http://maketecheasier.com/make-your-ubuntu-desktop-rotate-as-a-cylindersphere/2008/07/28 the first pic.. there is some icons at the bottom of the screen  is this a navigation bar ?
[13:49] <AllareRegistered> i even use it at home sometimes :)
[13:50] <|{53> I gotta doo....brb.
[13:50] <AllareRegistered> mostly to game or if im getting too frustrated with linux
[13:50] <recon69> ﻿steel_lady: just ask, partitioning should be easy
[13:51] <rss> oowriter/html editor is too bloated to use
[13:51] <J2daosh> AllareRegistered: to change your hostname
[13:51] <J2daosh> vim /etc/hostname
[13:51] <CaBlGuY> only thing I ever use windowz 4 any more is gaming..  and maybe some DVD ripping stuff..  but, I can do that in Linux so...  gaming mostly...
[13:51] <AllareRegistered> J2daosh, i know that, but the text in there is not my hostname, it seems to ignore the text in there
[13:51] <J2daosh> whatever you want your hostname to be, plug it in their, then /etc/init.d/hostname.sh
[13:52] <steel_lady> recon69, I bought a new laptop with win installed, entered in gparted through ubuntu live and I am about to organize new partitions. I am just a bit confused about type of partitions
[13:52] <CaBlGuY> but, I very rarely game any more..  so, mostly using Linux for the most part these days..
[13:52] <AllareRegistered> J2daosh, aha so after that i need to alter /etc/init.d/hostname.sh aswell?
[13:52] <steel_lady> recon69, I have to se between physical, logical and such
[13:52] <J2daosh> nope, u just need to run the hostname.sh
[13:52] <J2daosh> that sets the systems hostname to whatever /etc/hostname has listed
[13:53] <recon69> ﻿steel_lady: you resizing and keeping windows?
[13:54] <SOSOLEBOSSEDU69> houria
[13:54] <AllareRegistered> steel_lady, for general info on partitioning (what is an extended partition, a logical, a primary, ...) : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning
[13:55] <steel_lady> recon69, yes,  I have first some original recovery and driver s partitions, than win and now I want to put ubuntu system, ubunto work and FAT32 storage
[13:55] <Neaai> steel_lady: there can only be 4 primary partitions in a disk. One of these can be an extended partition which serves as the 'container' of the logical partitions. So instead of "4"  you can go 3(primary)+1(extended). You could do any combination within these limits.
[13:55] <AllareRegistered> steel_lady, also: you might have a recovery partition on your harddisk you may want to keep
[13:55] <ayaz> hi..How I can run *.ra, *.dat file on UBuntu
[13:56] <steel_lady> my question is how to create the extended partition in gparted
[13:56] <heyuxiang> hi man
[13:56] <unop> ayaz, all media players can play them as long as you have the codecs installed
[13:56] <Neaai> steel_lady: logical partitions inside the extended, you can create as many as you wish, or so I'm told.
[13:57] <Neaai> steel_lady: you will need free unpartitioned space first
[13:57] <steel_lady> I defragmented the disk, resized the win partition and now I don t se the option how to make the logical partition
[13:57] <|{53> whad I miss?
[13:58] <|{53> Ekk!
[13:58] <Neaai> steel_lady: you have one single partition in the disk ?
[13:58] <ayaz> from where I can install codec
[13:58] <steel_lady> yes i do
[13:58] <Neaai> steel_lady: probably ntfs (type).
[13:58] <steel_lady> yes
[13:59] <Neaai> steel_lady: you'll have to resize that and shrink it to create free space in the disk.
[13:59] <recon69> ﻿steel_lady: you should create a  Extended partition , then you can add logical partitions afterwards as far as i know
[13:59] <steel_lady> yes I did shrink
[13:59] <steel_lady> recon69 how to create extended partition
[14:00] <remoteCTR1> ikonia: are you there buddy?
[14:00] <Neaai> steel_lady: when selecting the free space area, there should be an option for creating new partitions.
[14:01] <Ratchet--> guyz
[14:01] <Ratchet--> i needa kno how to uninstall ubuntu
[14:01] <AllareRegistered> steel_lady, Neaai iirc you can rightclick the unallocated space and youll get a menu
[14:01] <Ratchet--> since it wont run with the select os screen
[14:02] <AllareRegistered> Ratchet--, you tried instlaling multiboot but it only starts ubuntu?
[14:02] <IndyGunFreak> If you use the alternate install CD, you can also just select to install to the unallocated partition, and it will automatically setup swap, /, and install
[14:02] <SOURdiesel> ok, so i reinstalled 8.10. fresh install.  same problem with resolution.  it doesn't go beyond 1280 x 1024.  how do i fix this?
[14:02] <Ratchet--> no no
[14:02] <Ratchet--> it does the multi boot however
[14:03] <steel_lady> ok I resized win, I created extended partition, I created other logical partition for Ubuntu, I created other logical for swap, other ext3 for working and other fat32 for storage. is it the right order?
[14:03] <Ratchet--> when it starts i am supposed to hold F11
[14:03] <IndyGunFreak> reinstalling is a bit extreme to solve a resolution problem, whats your graphics device
[14:03] <Ratchet--> the multiboot limits and stops it AllareRegistered
[14:03] <AllareRegistered> fat32 :o
[14:03] <recon69> ﻿steel_lady: you boot loader goes on the primary partition ( would be windows partition on duel boot system) , then create a extended partition in the free space( you dont have to use all the free space), then you can create logical partitions in any remaining free space.
[14:03] <AllareRegistered> Ratchet--, sorry im not sure what you mean
[14:04] <SOURdiesel> IndyGunFreak: ATI
[14:04] <Neaai> AllareRegistered: yes, but I gon't have gparted handy right now so can't remember exactly.
[14:04] <IndyGunFreak> SOURdiesel: ugh..
[14:04] <Neaai> s/gon't/don't
[14:04] <IndyGunFreak> !res | SOURdiesel  try reading through here..
[14:04] <Ratchet--> alla When I start my computer, to restore is hold F11. I press F11 but the choose Windows or Grub  stops it, making it impossible to restore my computer. I need to rid of ubuntu so it doesn't pause the recovery option
[14:05] <steel_lady> recon69 I already did all that. Recon if i have 4G of RAM how much swap should I put?
[14:05] <AllareRegistered> Neaai, me neither but im fairly sure rightclick was possible
[14:05] <Neaai> steel_lady: with 1G you'll be fine
[14:07] <|{53> I wonder why Ubuntu doesn't do PAE like openSUSE....
[14:07] <steel_lady> 1G with 4G of RAM? how can that work? it I have 4RAM full in the future, where would the image of those 4 will be stored?
[14:08] <Ratchet--> AllareRegistered:  When I start my computer, to restore is hold F11. I press F11 but the choose Windows or Grub  stops it, making it impossible to restore my computer. I need to rid of ubuntu so it doesn't pause the recovery option
[14:08] <|{53> :o
[14:09] <|{53> Ratchet - maybe I can help. What are you trying to do?
[14:09] <AllareRegistered> Ratchet--, aaaaaah you have a recovery partition and want to recover, but grub is preventing that?
[14:09] <steel_lady> what does ext2 type of partition sirve for?
[14:09] <ayaz> hi...from where I can download codecs for UBuntu
[14:09] <bazhang> !codecs
[14:09] <Ratchet--> AllareRegistered: indeed
[14:10] <AllareRegistered> Ratchet--, sorry no experience with recovery partitions, but im sure there are peopel that can help you out now the question is clearer :)
[14:10] <recon69> ﻿steel_lady: 4gig of ram is a lot , large swap spaces are not necessarily good, 2 gig should be plenty for swap. ext2 is like ext3 without logging, use ext3 (its better)
[14:11] <AllareRegistered> recon69, you mean without journaling :)
[14:11] <Neaai> steel_lady: swap doesn't have to be the size of physical ram. Used to obey that rule but not with the recent kernels. ext3 is ext2 with journaling, you'll want ext3, you want journaling.
[14:11] <recon69> ﻿AllareRegistered: yep , could not spell ﻿journaling :)
[14:12] <Ratchet--> !help recovery partitions
[14:12] <Ratchet--> er
[14:12] <AllareRegistered> recon69, just saying because logging could have sounded confusing for newbs
[14:12] <Ratchet--> !Help
[14:12] <Ratchet--> Help with Recovery Partitions is needed.
[14:13] <steel_lady> ok, so I asigned all the formats, do I have to asign names to partitions in gparted or do I do that later? how important is the order of partitions inside that extended partition?
[14:13] <|{53> what kind of Pc do you have Ratchet?
[14:13] <Ratchet--> Windows XP 2000 with ubuntu installed.
[14:13] <|{53> Brandname?
[14:13] <Ratchet--> compaq
[14:13] <|{53> XP or 2000?
[14:13] <Ratchet--> xp
[14:13] <questnn> :)
[14:14] <|{53> On bootup I think there is an option to enter recovery partition, have you tried that?
[14:14] <|{53> Like F8 maybe?
[14:14] <Ratchet--> It's F11
[14:14] <steel_lady> I have 320G of hard disk and I plan to do numerical modelling. will I do harm if I put 4G for swap?
[14:14] <Ratchet--> But grib doesn't allow enough time.
[14:14] <Neaai> steel_lady: what's the order like now? How does your partion table look like?
[14:14] <Ratchet--> Grub*
[14:14] <Ratchet--> it cuts off the cycle
[14:14] <metbsd> hi, is there a way to export all ubuntu screensaver ? so i can use it in windows?
[14:14] <questnn> steel_lady: RAM? rest of config?
[14:14] <|{53> You need to press it b4 it hits GRUB.
[14:15] <goldeagle> hi people, I have a HP P1009 works in CUPS, but local only. I need print with windows remote, I configure in windows, I print, create of the queue, but no works. Can anybody help me ???
[14:15] <kitply> hi everyone. i m disgusted with my WIN Xp. and i am now planning to uninstall it and install another linux distribution ( ideally fedora 10) .I am  currently having ubuntu 8.10 in one of my 15 gb partition. I have win xp in my C: (15gb,ntfs) and D:( 8GB, fat32). Would it be safe to merge these partitions and install fedora on the combined partion? and how can i protect my existing Ubuntu GRUb from getting overwritten by Fedora?
[14:15] <Ratchet--> When the computer starts, I press F11 immediately, still not enough time.
[14:15] <Vinceman> what could be the reason that print jobs seem to sort of hang a long time?
[14:15] <|{53> Ratchet: It sounds like the recovery partition is no longer there....
[14:16] <|{53> Can you confirm that the partition is still there?
[14:16] <questnn> kitply: You do not need to protect ubuntu's grub it takes a min to restore it. Google for 'restore grub ubuntu'
[14:16] <Ratchet--> |{53: It's there,ye
[14:16] <temppy> kitply: you should think about creating a separate /home too
[14:16] <kitply> questnn: Is it safe to install fedora on the merged partitions i have mentioned?
[14:16] <questnn> kitply: If the c and d partitions lie one after another, then they it is absolutely safe to merge them as the data is anyways going to be formatted what have you got to loose?
[14:17] <Ratchet--> i shall go try doing it as early as possible to make sure it's not something im doing wrong, |{53
[14:17] <Ratchet--> Brb.
[14:17] <|{53> Ratchet: If it were to boot to the recovery partition, it should never hit GRUB. what is your main goal here?
[14:17] <kitply> questnn: yes they come one after another
[14:17] <|{53> erm, nvrmd
[14:18] <questnn> kitply: Then after you delete both of them, you are going to have one large unpartitioned space, and you will be creating a new partition for fedora. Not merging them.
[14:18] <kitply> questnn: yes
[14:18] <steel_lady> 1)fat16drivers   2)ntfs Recovery   3)4Mb of unallocated space (came like this from the factory)    4) ntfs Win   5)  extended with a)ext3 for Ubuntu  b) swap   c) ext3 for work    d)  FAT32 storage      is it okay?
[14:19] <questnn> kitply: therefore there is no question of it being tricky to install fedora on it, just note its number by looking at your partitions in gparted so that you choose the right one as mount point '/' for fedora.
[14:20] <recon69> ﻿steel_lady: if you plan to use a app that uses lots of ram you might want to read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[14:20] <asfjio> hello, i enabled the root password with sudo passwd, and now i don't know how to disabled it like it is default in ubuntu. can someone help me?
[14:21] <steel_lady> that s why I bought so much ram on the laptop. did you see my partition distribution recon69?
[14:21] <|{53> asfjio: sudo passwd -l root
[14:22] <kitply> qeustnn: do i have to make any manual entries in the menu.lst file of ubuntu for the fedora 10?
[14:24] <kapipi> Hi, does anyone have an external thinkpad "usb keyboard with ultranav" working fully in ubuntu? What are the steps to take?
[14:24] <recon69> ﻿steel_lady: think ntfs would be better than fat32
[14:24] <asfjio> |{53: thank you
[14:24] <|{53> asfjio: np
[14:24] <steel_lady> recon69, ntfs for linux multimedia partition for sharing?
[14:24] <kapipi> What Im looking for is how to make the extended features of the ultranav work. For instance, page scrolling, right click etc.
[14:25] <recon69> ﻿steel_lady: ntfs for multimedia/shared drivers , ext3 for all linux partitions
[14:26] <steel_lady> recon69 I even had permission problems with linux on fat32 partition in the pastm what would it be with ntfs?
[14:26] <iarwain1> ext2/3 is also possible with windows
[14:26] <volkerbradley> No kappi, I don't have the USB keyboard
[14:26] <recon69> ﻿steel_lady: ntfs works fine now with linux
[14:26] <|{53> iarwain1: r/w?
[14:26] <Vhozard> yup, works fine also
[14:26] <iarwain1> |{53: ofcourse :D Just no rights etc
[14:27] <kitply> questnn: do I have to include fedora 10 in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file?
[14:27] <kapipi> volkerbradley: ok
[14:27] <steel_lady> recon69 first few partitions, including win came fron the factory, I am not changing it. the last FAT32 partition is for sharing between linux and win. is the order within the extended partition okay?
[14:27] <|{53> iarwain1: did not know that...
[14:27] <scribawf> was using kgrubedit with ubuntu Hardy but with Intrepid doesn't work any suggestions or alternative GUI for grub editor?
[14:27] <iarwain1> |{53: now you do =D
[14:28] <nutzer> hallo
[14:28] <nomingzi> >	I have installed Vmware Server 2.0 onto ubuntu 8.10, how to i add the normal user account into VMware Server administrator, because I cannot find this group in the "Group list"
[14:28] <recon69> ﻿steel_lady: really would not know what effects order of partitions would have sorry
[14:29] <Vhozard> why dont use gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[14:29] <Vhozard> its almost as easy
[14:29] <steel_lady> recon69 what happens on ntfs when I try to create the file as administrator only?
[14:29] <|{53> steel_lady: I don't think order matters...
[14:29] <scribawf> Vhozard;  OK will give that a try is that in term mode?
[14:31] <|{53> steel_lady: except on larger disks with older PCs. then boot partitions should be first.
[14:31] <OB1FoShoB> i'm having some trouble with cpu usage in 8.10, i'm not sure if it's my compiz or what, is there a good way/app to use that will give me more clues to look at?
[14:31] <iarwain1> top/htop
[14:32] <|{53> OB1FoShoB: or go to System -> Administration -> System Monitor
[14:32] <OB1FoShoB> seems like it is jumping from 20-60% usage all the time
[14:32] <scampbell> Whats a good run-level editor for Ubuntu Hardy.  For example, I loaded nis to test some client systems but now it tries to load a boot up.  I could edit the /etc/rc?.d files myself but I'm sure there is a good utility for this that I'm just missing.
[14:32] <scientes> can i turn off al update notification
[14:32] <|{53> OB1FoShoB: do you have indexing on?
[14:32] <scientes> ie get rid of the tray icon
[14:32] <toTOW> OB1FoShoB look at the process list, and find ou what process use your CPU
[14:32] <OB1FoShoB> i turned it all the way down, but it is on
[14:32] <Vhozard> scientes yes you can
[14:33] <OB1FoShoB> npviewer.bin seems to always be up there
[14:33] <OB1FoShoB> and of course the system monitor itself when i have it open
[14:33] <Vhozard> scientes go to start - system - preferences - services
[14:33] <johnlock> hi all
[14:33] <OB1FoShoB> when i scroll thru the sysmon list, it will freeze every so often
[14:33] <|{53> scientes: System -> Preferences -> Sessions. Uncheck update notifier.
[14:33] <Vhozard> scientes and then diable Update Notifier
[14:34] <Vhozard> ^^
[14:34] <Vhozard> yes
[14:34] <scientes> thx
[14:34] <Vhozard> sessions it is
[14:34] <|{53> Vhozard: "p
[14:34] <scientes> i have security on auto, but otherwise i wil update when i see a need
[14:35] <|{53> scientes: You can still run them manually.
[14:35] <scientes> exactaly
[14:35] <johnlock> In other distributions I could drag objects from the desktop with the right button of the mouse
[14:35] <patrik> Hi, I just booted up my Ubuntu 8.10 system and realized that 2.9GB of my mem (4GB total) is used as cache. This sounds to me like something is wrong. The only thing I can think of is that the system did a disk check when booting. Could it be that the disk check made the system to cache bits of of the hard disk until the memory was full?
[14:35] <johnlock> why with ubuntu doesn't?
[14:35] <scientes> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade easy
[14:35] <|{53> patrik: this is normal.
[14:35] <recon69> ﻿steel_lady: ntfs advantage over fat32 is fat32 has file size limit of 4gig , the ntfs file permissions can be changed easily , but the 4gig limit of fat32 cannot.
[14:36] <usser> patrik, this is normal
[14:36] <scientes> patrik, normal, look at memory stuff fintuned with htop, or if you dont want to install top
[14:36] <OB1FoShoB> according to google, the npviewer.bin is flash, which i have v10 installed in firefox
[14:36] <johnlock> no one ?
[14:37] <steel_lady> recon69, so if I change permission with chmod to the file on ntfs, you guarantee it will not cause problems?
[14:37] <|{53> johnlock: you can't just use the left button?
[14:37] <johnlock> no
[14:37] <johnlock> I usually,
[14:37] <|{53> steel_lady: In this world no one can guarantee anything. ;)
[14:38] <patrik> scientes, the memory is cached so it's not assigned to any process
[14:38] <|{53> johnlock: why?
[14:38] <DavidCanarias> Hi everyone. Can anyone help me on a simple question plse? Simple when one knows how! I want to store certain text that I often repeat onto one of the keys on the keyboard. This will save me having to type everything over and over again. Help please on how to do this?
[14:38] <napster> hi
[14:38] <johnlock> why it's better
[14:38] <johnlock> with
[14:38] <steel_lady> don t give me that please, my primary concern are permissions, not the size so you have to tell me from permission aspect, what do you advice?
[14:38] <Gullstad> Hello. I'm running Ubuntu 8.10 on my acer travelmate 5510 laptop, and want to add an extra screen that can extend the keyboard. I'
[14:39] <johnlock> you can make links quicker etc
[14:39] <recon69> ﻿steel_lady: if you more comfortable with fat32 use fat32. cant give you absolutes, if you have admin access in win and linux you should be able to access any file in either system.
[14:39] <wiehan> hallo?
[14:39] <johnlock> it's not normal that it is not possible on ubuntu
[14:39] <usser> patrik, that means that there's enough memory for all thhe processes. So to not let memory go to waste ubuntu caches most used data from disk essentially. whenever there's a shortage of memory the cache will swapped out again to make room for processes.
[14:39] <OB1FoShoB> looking a little more at the cpu usage prob, i think it has something to do with xorg, any thoughts?
[14:40] <patrik> scientes, But I get your point. Just wierd that the system is fully cached upon boot.
[14:40] <napster> I've just lost my all data during installing 8.10
[14:40] <scientes> patrik, windows does the same
[14:40] <|{53> napster: Ekk, sounds bad.
[14:40] <Gullstad> Hello. I'm running Ubuntu 8.10 on my acer travelmate 5510 laptop, and want to add an extra screen that can extend the keyboard. I'v inserted the screen, and restarted. Now I got two screen showing the same image in the same resolution. I want two screens in diffrent resolution, and one extending the desktop. Can ubuntu 8.10 do that? (Sorry for dubble post, didnt mean to press enter the first time)
[14:40] <scientes> patrik, its just caching everything that loads while boting, but hsouldnt we 4 GB
[14:40] <scientes> (in vista it is though cause its so bloated :P0
[14:40] <patrik> scientes, But caching stuff when doing the disk check is not a good thing. Especially if that cached data ends up on the swap.
[14:40] <steel_lady> recon69, my dubt is not accessing files but modifying it. I am not more comfortable with anything, I am just the blond who seeks the best option
[14:41] <scientes> patrik, cache never even goes to swap
[14:41] <|{53> napster: what did you loose?
[14:41] <scientes> patrik, cache can be droped at any moment
[14:41] <cwillu> Gullstad, yes it can, although it's somewhat dependant on the video card if you're using compiz (which you probably are)
[14:41] <napster> yep, but is it possible that now during using single partition, create one new for home, root and swap?
[14:41] <scientes> patrik, cache is never allocated, its automatic and not expected, it just makes use of empty ram u got sitting there using power etc
[14:42] <patrik> scientes, Yeah, vista does a really poor job. Ok, if it doesn't end up on the swap I guess there's no problem. I was just curios. Thanks for answering.
[14:42] <|{53> napster: You can do that after installing, but as long as you have a new install, it might be better just to reinstall and do it then.
[14:42] <Ratchet--> |53 Nope
[14:42] <Gullstad> cwillu: Not using compiz. Find it quite annoying. How can i figure out what gfx card I got?
[14:42] <Ratchet--> |{53: nope
[14:42] <napster> yes thanks for the advice
[14:42] <cwillu> patrik, it'll often swap apps out to make more cache, and this is generally a good thing
[14:42] <Ratchet--> |{ I had trouble getting it to start back up, it's getting buggy.
[14:42] <napster> i think i must reinstall
[14:42] <scientes> patrik, vista actually is upose to be really good at caching, quite agressive, but i was just attacking the size of the system that vista loads while loading
[14:42] <cwillu> Gullstad, you've specifically disabled it?
[14:43] <|{53> Ratchet--: what happened?
[14:43] <notkoosh> good morning
[14:43] <scientes> but anyways linux pwns windows
[14:43] <|{53> morning
[14:43] <Gullstad> cwillu: Never installed it. You thinking the desktop candy thing, right?
[14:43] <scientes> napster, why?
[14:43] <notkoosh> help?
[14:43] <Ratchet--> |{53: it keeps making a beeping noize if i try too early
[14:43] <johnlock> no one?
[14:43] <cwillu> Gullstad, it's running by default, with very subtle effects
[14:43] <lli> hi :) i used ndis wrapper to compile my wireless driver on my acer laptop (using ubuntu) but it doesn't save my wep key AND i have to manually enter my network name every time i want to connect to wireless. could someone help me fix this please
[14:43] <|{53> scientes: he wants seperate partitions for home, etc.
[14:43] <RandomCake> Hi, I was just watching a flash video in Firefox (BBC iPlayer), the buffer ran out and the video stopped and now I've got a really irritating sound (so I've muted sound for now...), how can I restart all sound processes (I'm guessing that's what I need to do, short of a system restart)?
[14:43] <bashca> hi there
[14:43] <napster> I've single partition
[14:43] <Gullstad> cwillu: Oki. I'm pretty much running it out-of-the box.
[14:43] <cwillu> Gullstad, it's generally a performance win actually, but ya
[14:44] <notkoosh> so i dl and install  a x64 bit OS and run a x32
[14:44] <napster> thats why need to reinstall
[14:44] <scientes> napster, just boot into the live cd and go into gparted, resize your home, then copy stuff from home over, and then edit your fstab
[14:44] <lavacano201014> OK, I'd ask in #kde, but that AND #kubuntu are silent, so here goes:
[14:44] <cwillu> Gullstad, preferences | apperances | desktop effects
[14:44] <scientes> napster, quite easy
[14:44] <recon69> ﻿steel_lady: well, go with fat32 if you more comfortable with it. if you hit the 4gig limit you can upgrade the partitions to ntfs
[14:44] <napster> ohh
[14:44] <lavacano201014> Some of my songs are showing up as gray in Amarok, but the files play perfectly
[14:44] <napster> thats sounds good
[14:44] <notkoosh> i was excited/distracted
[14:44] <lavacano201014> What's the gray supposed to mean?
[14:44] <Gullstad> cwillu: Turn them all off?
[14:44] <Gullstad> cwillu: To "none"?
[14:44] <cwillu> Gullstad, you can make extended desktop work with them on, but it's a bit finicky (most video cards have fairly small limits on the max texture size, and the desktop is one big window)
[14:44] <patrik> scientes, Vista is totally useless on my Vaio TX5, because the HD is so slow. So when the 1GB memory gets full the swap starts to fill out and you could easily wait 2 mins for an app to load.
[14:45] <Shoopuf> Can anyone tell me which of these 4 chmod's is correct? I want to let the .PHP files on my website write to a JPG image... But www-data user does not have write access to the directory... http://pastebin.com/d4fd78a69
[14:45] <cwillu> Gullstad, yep.  Under metacity, it should work.  You _may_ still need an xorg tweak first though
[14:45] <bashca> i have  error  pppd demond has died exit code 2  ?? any help
[14:45] <scientes> napster, resize your root, make a home, copy files to new home and then edit fstab so it mounts on boot
[14:45] <scientes> napster, make sure to use cp -a to keep all permissions
[14:45] <napster> I'm running 2 hard disks at the time with windows vista and ubuntu
[14:45] <isaax> Hi I am trying to use a serial mouse in Ubuntu 8.10 inputting this into the command line...inputattach --mousesystems /dev/ttyS0 and here is the output....inputattach: can's set line dicipline....What is this error and what can I do about it?
[14:45] <Gullstad> cwillu: Oki. It's off.
[14:45] <patrik> scientes, Do you know if I can tune the cache through /proc or something?
[14:45] <cwillu> Gullstad, (metacity being the alternative to compiz, i.e., 'none')
[14:45] <napster> I really love ubuntu
[14:46] <lli> hi :) i used ndis wrapper to compile my wireless driver on my acer laptop (using ubuntu) but it doesn't save my wep key AND i have to manually enter my network name every time i want to connect to wireless. could someone help me fix this please
[14:46] <scientes> patrik, cache never slows anything down, dont worry about it, try allocating alot of ram or something
[14:46] <|{53> geez - too fast, too many ppl.
[14:46] <scientes> |{53, thats what this channel is like
[14:46] <scientes> :P
[14:46] <|{53> scientes: I see, I am just trying to help ppl to give back to the oss community.
[14:47] <scientes> i just do it cause its easy and i have trouble getting my own questions answered
[14:47] <OB1FoShoB> omg, i just figured out that cpu monitor in google gadgets was eating up my 30-60% of my cpu
[14:47] <cwillu> patrik, swap is tunable, yes, but the defaults are almost certainly what you want
[14:47] <scientes> im quite a noob but already can help a bazillion ppl
[14:48] <lavacano201014> lli-\ I might be able to help with the manual entry of wireless network name.
[14:48] <|{53> OB1FoShoB: conky is a lightweight system monitor.
[14:48] <lavacano201014> lli-\ Is your router set to broadcast SSID?
[14:48] <OB1FoShoB> they should have called it "cpu muncher" instead of monitor haha
[14:48] <cwillu> patrik, cache is reclaimed at effectively no cost if the system needs more memory for apps to allocate
[14:48] <scientes> OB1FoShoB, yeah use htop for that, vastly superior
[14:48] <OB1FoShoB> yea i haven't got conky all configured the way i want yet
[14:49] <djamel> |{53 Free Software is better than just Open Source,  and Free Software has a Community, meanwhile Open Source just has users and developers :)
[14:49] <OB1FoShoB> will check out htop also
[14:49] <Juak> hello, in hardy server i have setup a samba server athenticating users against active directory, but the way most howtos describe leaves shell access too (in fact they give access to most services AFAIK). How can i have ONLY samba authenticating against AD?
[14:49] <scientes> to everybody also, nautilus sucks, pcmanfm is way better for a slower machine, and more functional than thunar
[14:49] <|{53> djamel: thanks for the tip. ;)
[14:49] <scientes> and faster too than thunar
[14:49] <OB1FoShoB> thanks for all the help :-)
[14:49] <patrik> Cwiiis, yeah, I've looked into that. I was just more curios about tuning the cache. Because if my cache i filled with stuff from the disk check then other programs might not get cached properly.
[14:49] <Gullstad> cwillu: You kinda lost me. I need to install metacity, or what you called it, or I just need to switch it to "None"?
[14:49] <cwillu> djakl, well, no, not really.  Freesoftware is only better than oss if your name is richard, or one of his disciples :p
[14:50] <isaax> Hi I am trying to use a serial mouse in Ubuntu 8.10 inputting this into the command line...inputattach --mousesystems /dev/ttyS0 and here is the output....inputattach: can's set line dicipline....What is this error and what can I do about it?
[14:50] <cwillu> Gullstad, switch it to none (which tells the system to use metacity instead of compiz)
[14:50] <|{53> patrik: just think of the cache space as not being used.
[14:50] <cwillu> Gullstad, metacity is the 'old' window manager that doesn't use any 3d acceleration
[14:51] <cwillu> patrik, 'cwillu', not 'Cwiiis'  (one of these days, I'm gonna add his name to my highlight list because of the confusion :(
[14:51] <|{53> isaax: serial mouse? That is so ten years ago. :p
[14:51] <cwillu> patrik, um
[14:51] <cwillu> doesn't quite work like that
[14:51] <patrik> |{53, Yeah yeah, I know how cache works and everything, but the problem was that the cache was full after a reboot and I thought perhaps that would affect caching performance on normal apps.
[14:51] <Gullstad> cwillu: Oki, but how does this help me? I'm still on square one. My desktops are pretty much the same. I appreciate you effort, but I must be slow or something :P
[14:52] <patrik> cwillu, heh, sorry about that :)
[14:52] <cwillu> PatrickMello, no, it won't affect anything.  It's 'full' after boot because the system just finished reading all that stuff, but it's reclaimable at negligable cost
[14:52] <cwillu> patrik, rather
[14:52] <UnknownUser56> ﻿Alright,so I was finally able to install Windows XP again and pass the problem with GRUB ,but now I can't see my second partition ( not even with slackware ) on Windows ,because I may have accidentally done a sudo grub-install on that partition ..but I don't think so because I only did so on my root .. any suggestions as to why this might be happening ?
[14:52] <cwillu> patrik, and at boot, there's nothing to displace yet anyway
[14:53] <cwillu> Gullstad, was it at none or at normal before?
[14:53] <Cwiiis> cwillu: I'm thinking of moving to Mandriva or Fedora soon, I might not be here for too much longer :)
[14:53] <Gullstad> cwillu: Normal, and the I switched it to "None"
[14:53] <cwillu> Cwiiis, hurry up :p
[14:53] <Cwiiis> hehe...
[14:53]  * cwillu wants his first three letters back :p
[14:54] <notkoosh> i upgraded to 8.10 in a hurry and installed an x64 bit OS.  my computer is not x64. i suspect that this has been the reason my video has been flickering and sound cuts out.
[14:54] <cwillu> Gullstad, and then under prefs | screen resolution, what does it show?
[14:54] <notkoosh> work around for switching to x32?
[14:54] <|{53> patrik: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2005-05/2373.html
[14:54] <UnknownUser56> The partition was not detected by ubuntu/slackware/windows ( the partition had NTFS and ALL my data (it was the backup partition ironically ) )
[14:54] <cwillu> notkoosh, you must have a 64bit cpu if it works at all
[14:54] <scientes> notkoosh, if your computer is not 64-bit a b64 bit OS will refuse to run at all
[14:54] <notkoosh> ..
[14:54] <patrik> |{53, Cool, thanks
[14:54] <cwillu> notkoosh, open a terminal (apps | accessories | terminal) and type uname -a
[14:55] <scientes> notkoosh, and then type cat /proc/cpuinfo
[14:55] <Gullstad> cwillu: Hehe: "Must be connected to a terminal." - I'm running a therminal.
[14:55] <cwillu> Gullstad, I'm sorry?
[14:55] <|{53> therminal! :o
[14:56] <rmz100> I am writing a web app behind apache which needs to edit some files under /etc directory, and requires root permissions, how can I pass on root permissions to
[14:56] <Gullstad> cwillu: It only says: Must be connected to a terminal.
[14:56] <rmz100> www-data?
[14:56] <cwillu> Gullstad, you have monitor resolution settings open?
[14:56] <cwillu> and it says that?
[14:56] <|{53> rmz100: this is dangerous.
[14:56] <notkoosh> clflush size	: 64
[14:57] <notkoosh> :D
[14:57] <cwillu> rmz100, you would need to change the owner/permissions on the appropriate files in etc, and/or run your app under an account with the right privileges
[14:57] <|{53> rmz100: is your web app visible to the Internet?
[14:57] <cwillu> rmz100, this is dangerous ground, very easy to make subtle errors
[14:57] <kowey> hi everybody... I get the impression that openntpd only synchronises my clock if I do not let it daemonise (i.e. if I run it as with openntpd -d)... any debugging tips?
[14:58] <recon69> ﻿UnknownUser56: you could try create a gparted boot cd and use that to check, but it's not sounding good for your backup partition.
[14:58] <cwillu> |{53, not good enough, his webapp needs to be secure against xss attacks even if it only listens on localhost, if the machine ever runs even a browser
[14:58] <rmz100> cwillu , |{53 I agree
[14:58] <Gullstad> cwillu: One unknows scree with the resulution 1280:800... In the monito resolution windows.
[14:58] <notkoosh> i will continue to google for the flickering video/ in and out sound.
[14:58] <scientes> rmz100, never change file in etc from root, thats stupid
[14:58] <notkoosh> thank you.
[14:58] <UnknownUser56> ﻿recon69: That's what I'm afraid of .. even more than passing the upcoming uni exams :(
[14:58] <cwillu> rmz100, how familiar are you with cross-site-scripting?
[14:59] <rmz100> I am familiar with cross site scripting
[14:59] <Slart> kowey: try making it output some kind of log.. there should be some kind of debug switch
[14:59] <|{53> cwillu: True. Maybe it is a good idea to run it inside of Drupal or something similar....
[14:59] <cwillu> rmz100, and you're defending against them appropriately?
[14:59] <rmz100> cwillu:99%
[14:59] <UnknownUser56> ﻿recon69:I remember reading somewhere that sudo grub-install erases all the data ,but not quite sure tho
[14:59] <cwillu> rmz100, or are you screwed if I put an image on my site that points to a sensitive address on your localhost?
[14:59] <UnknownUser56> gpart it is then
[14:59] <kowey> Slart: ok, I will figure out if there are switches I can put into /etc/defaults/openntpd so that it outputs to a log, thanks
[15:00] <DM_> salut
[15:00] <rmz100> The app is something which needs to run like webmin
[15:00] <Slart> kowey: it might already be logging to the syslog
[15:00] <kowey> (currently the situation is that I have clock skew, but no openntpd output in my syslog)
[15:00] <rmz100> cwillu:how does webmin run?
[15:00] <kowey> but if I run it by hand without daemonising, it starts telling me that it's synchronising
[15:00] <cwillu> rmz100, very insecurely
[15:00] <cwillu> !webmin
[15:00] <bennet> something german here?
[15:00] <Slart> !de
[15:00] <kowey> (when I say I have clock skew, I mean that when I try to run make, it complains about clock skew)
[15:00] <patrik> |{53, cwillu, I just realized you can drop the cache through /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches, perhaps that should be done automatically after an automated disk check.
[15:00] <cwillu> rmz100, at a minimum, it _needs_ to be running over https
[15:01] <bennet> #strawhat
[15:01] <cwillu> patrik, why?  you don't have anything running yet, clearing the cache doesn't help you
[15:01] <cwillu> patrik, cache is already reclaimed just as fast as completely unallocated memory
[15:02] <kowey> Slart: oops! looking at man ntpd does not indicate any flags related to log files
[15:02] <patrik> cwillu, It depends on how the cache is handled. If my cache is full and I start a new app. Will the new app get cached or will it keep the other data I already have in cache?
[15:02] <cwillu> patrik, drop_caches is used to allow performance testing without requiring a reboot to account to cache effects, not to improve performance
[15:02] <cwillu> patrik, you're not understanding what cache doesa
[15:02] <Slart> kowey: hmm.. let me see what I can find
[15:02] <thiebaude> !cache
[15:02] <cwillu> you open a new app, it allocates memory.  As it uses that memory, the kernel will reclaim cache as necessary
[15:02] <cwillu> but the app memory isn't _cached_
[15:02] <|{53> check out my screenshot: http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4896/screenshotae4.png
[15:03] <cwillu> patrik, we're not talking about cpu caches, nor application caches
[15:03] <kapipi> I wonder, is there support for an usb keyboard with an ultranav (similar to synaptics touchpad i think) in intrepid? And will the support be set up correctly if I add the keyboard after the installation procedure is over?
[15:04] <Slart> |{53: nice background.. home made? screenshot from some game? and is it conky on the right side?
[15:04] <thiebaude> sweet desktop
[15:04] <patrik> cwillu, Yes I am. But the question is: When I load app1 it will get cached but when I load app2 (and the RAM is full) will it throw out the cache for app1 and replace it with app2?
[15:05] <cwillu> patrik, what cache for app1?
[15:05] <cwillu> the binary?
[15:05] <patrik> no data
[15:05] <cwillu> that's not cache
[15:05] <cwillu> that's app memory
[15:05] <patrik> the binary is already in mem
[15:05] <|{53> patrik - you are confusing app RAM with disk cache.
[15:05] <sammyF> hey there. Anybody know who should be sent to gitmo for thinking about including Pulseaudio?
[15:05] <cwillu> if app1 has something in memory, it _may_ get swapped out if the system can use the memory better for other purposes
[15:06] <thiebaude> !topic
[15:06] <Slart> kowey: the switch -v seems to produce some kind of debug output to syslog
[15:06] <|{53> patrik: if the RAM is lost for your app - it don't run.
[15:06] <cwillu> patrik, can you be more specific which apps/use-cases you're worried about?
[15:06] <Slart> kowey: you can also send ntpd the SIGINFO signal to make it log some status info to the syslog
[15:06] <spunk_> hello all! I'm running 8.04. Today I received some question about approving nexus.passport.com for pidgin. Is it ok to accept that certificate? It said the root certificate was unknown...
[15:07] <sanguisdex1> so I was just dragging an item into my trash and the desktop froze.  how can I shut down that process with out restarting x?
[15:07] <cwillu> sanguisdex1, killall nautilus
[15:07] <Slart> spunk_: hmm. I haven't seen any such requests from pidgin.. I use msn and icq
[15:07] <cwillu> sanguisdex1, killall -KILL nautilus if the first doesn't work
[15:07] <kowey> Slart: thanks!
[15:07] <cwillu> spunk_, best bet would be to ask in #pidgin
[15:07] <netyire> spunk_: when in doubt, click 'no'
[15:07] <sammyF> can I safely remove pulseaudio?
[15:07]  * kowey tries the SIGINFO trick
[15:07] <patrik> cwillu, |{53, Sorry if I'm not clear enough, but what I'm wondering about is, when will cache data be thrown out for better cache data?
[15:07] <cwillu> sammyF, why would you want to do a silly thing like that? :p
[15:07] <spunk_> Ok. It might have been some temporary network fluke. I'll start Pidgin again and test it.
[15:07] <netyire> sammyF: just switch to alsa instead
[15:08] <Slart> sammyF: it shouldn't destroy your machine.. so in that sense it's safe
[15:08] <cwillu> patrik, yes, but that's not what you want to ask I don't think, judging from what you've said
[15:08] <netyire> sammyF: you don't have to completely remove pulseaudio if you don't want to use it
[15:08] <spunk_> cwillu: Ok, ill try that if it persist.
[15:08] <Slart> sammyF: sound might not work the same though
[15:08] <cwillu> patrik, cache has nothing to do with individual processes
[15:08] <sammyF> cwillu: let's see .. oh yeah : so that I get consistent sound output, like, pygames suddenly not finding the mixer and such?
[15:08] <sanguisdex1> cwillu: from where, any terminal?
[15:08] <indra> have anybody using snownews
[15:08] <|{53> patrik: Interesting question. Something I would like to know myself.
[15:08] <indra> ?
[15:08] <spunk_> netyire: Yes, you are right, I declined the request.
[15:08] <cwillu> patrik, a program has no cache assigned to it
[15:08] <pecginfor> join /#ubuntu-br
[15:08] <netyire> spunk_: :-)
[15:08] <|{53> snownews, is that code for cocaine?
[15:08] <cwillu> sanguisdex1, any terminal
[15:08] <sanguisdex1> ok will try
[15:08] <indra> no for rss consolo reader
[15:09] <|{53> I read something about people selling drugs on craigslist.
[15:09] <sanguisdex1> had to log on to here via finch
[15:09] <vallhalla811> !vm
[15:09] <indra> for rss console reader
[15:09] <vallhalla811> !vmware
[15:09] <vallhalla811> !qemu
[15:09] <patrik> cwillu, Perhaps not but what gets cached depends on the apps. Without apps not much would get cached.
[15:09] <erUSUL> !fishing | vallhalla811
[15:09] <cwillu> vallhalla811, use /msg ubottu please
[15:10] <|{53> vallhalla811: what do you need vm for?
[15:10] <vallhalla811> sorry all
[15:10] <sammyF> Slart: netyire: cwillu: basicallu, I ~upgraded~ to 8.10 from 8/04  yesterday, had to do a fresh install after that cause thje python2.5 pygtk module was completely screwed (along with other stuff), and now, on a fresh install, it's hit and miss with Pulseaudio. some things work, some things work sometimes, some don't at all
[15:10] <cwillu> patrik, no, what gets cached is completely determined by what is read from disk
[15:10] <cwillu> sammyF, pulseaudio was in hardy
[15:10] <Finnish> Can someone help me with installing grub?
[15:10] <vallhalla811> |{53: to test other distros and difernt setups for ubuntu
[15:10] <patrik> cwillu, Yes, what gets read from the disk is often determined by the apps.
[15:10] <netyire> sammyF: oh, I see. I had problems with pulse when I upgraded too. Was terrible enough that I moved back to alsa :-(
[15:10] <Finnish> I have dualboot (xp and ubuntu), and I lost ubuntu on latest xp-install
[15:10] <Slart> !grub | Finnish, here's some info.. that's all the help I can give you
[15:11] <sanguisdex1> whats the key stroke for opening a new command line with out having to relog in?
[15:11] <|{53> vallhalla811: have you tried virtualbox?
[15:11] <patrik> cwillu, But I apologies if my question wasn't very clear. It's all about terminology.
[15:11] <sammyF> cwillu: yeah ... but it was a 7.04 install originally, so I disabled pulseaudio when I upgraded to 8.04 ... due to the same problems I have now
[15:11] <kowey> Slart: err... how do I send the SIGINFO signal? I tried kill -s SIGINFO pid
[15:11] <ART> wlb
[15:12] <ART> hello
[15:12] <cwillu> patrik, check your pm's
[15:12] <vallhalla811> |{53: yes but it dosent seem to load usb very well, also i am using 64 bit distro now and it seems to strugle with that
[15:12] <patrik> cwillu, |{53 So I guess I have to dig in the kernel to find my answer.
[15:12] <netyire> sammyF: try alsa if pulse is buggy, if you want to allow more than two applications to use the soundcard at the same time, install alsa-oss and run apps with aoss <appname>, you can change the shortcuts of common programs in the menu like firefox.
[15:12] <sammyF> netyire: thanks. I'll try that
[15:12] <netyire> :-)
[15:12] <|{53> patrik: It seems like a 'deep' question that maybe devs would only know the answer to.
[15:12] <ART> haha
[15:13] <isaax> Sorry my machine got powered off ... I am trying to attach a serial mouse I am using the command inputattach --mousesystems /dev/ttyS0 the out put is inputattach: can't set line discipline... What does this message mean and what can I do about it?
[15:13] <Slart> kowey: hmm.. interesting question.. I would have used kill myself..
[15:13] <eraz> when in konqueror the icons in the left panel are not threre and when i click on print or bluetooth or anyother service i get "protocol not supported"
[15:13] <kowey> Slart: also, openntpd claims that it doesn't understand the -v flag when I put it in the DAEMON_OPTS variable in /etc/default/openntpd
[15:14] <histo> Can yo install server off of the mini iso?
[15:14] <|{53> isaax: are u sure the mouse is /dev/ttyS0?
[15:14] <isaax> Yes I get a power on for just a second...it lights up athen goes off
[15:14] <theDoc> Anyone might have a good wireless manager for a replacement? The gnome-network manager doesn't play nice on my x61s
[15:15] <eraz> theDoc: works nice with my x61t
[15:15] <Slart> kowey: kill -29 <pid> doesn't work?
[15:15] <theDoc> eraz: Damn thing doesn't even connect.
[15:15] <eraz> ?
[15:15] <eraz> why
[15:15] <|{53> Ok, since I have spent an hour helping others, maybe someone can answer a questions for me.
[15:15] <theDoc> I have no idea.
[15:15] <scientes> |{53, what are your question?
[15:15] <theDoc> It sees the networks and stuff but just sits there and waits.
[15:15] <scientes> s?
[15:15] <Slart> |{53: go ahead
[15:16] <kowey> Slart: hmm, that seems to have killed it :-D
[15:16] <|{53> I am running 8.10 - I cannot get network manager to set my static IP.
[15:16] <eraz> wifi-radar is one you could try, and kwlassistant
[15:16] <eraz> but seriosuly try gett it workin in a terminal first
[15:16] <Slart> kowey: hmm.. did it send signal 2, then 9 ? =)
[15:16] <eraz> terminals are better at telling you whats up
[15:16] <theDoc> eraz: Get what working?
[15:16] <theDoc> eraz: I just chucked gnome for fluxbox
[15:16] <eraz> your network connection
[15:16] <kowey> :-)
[15:16] <cwillu> |{53, i.e., from setting it from networkmanager or /etc/network?
[15:17] <Slart> |{53: you've set the static ip in /etc/network/interfaces?
[15:17] <bw\> hmm, is there a way to burn an iso while using the live version of ubuntu with having just one cd-drive?
[15:17]  * kowey resigns himself to puzzling over clock skew problems on a rainy day
[15:17] <kowey> thanks, Slart!
[15:17] <ncuh> is there a way to add "always on top" button to titlebar?
[15:17] <ncuh> in XFCE
[15:17] <erUSUL> bw\: no
[15:17] <|{53> cwillu, Slart : no, in network manager. Is networkmanager broken?
[15:17] <isaax> can anyone help with a serial mouse installation?
[15:17] <bw\> erUSUL: okay, thats a clear answer, thanks :)
[15:17] <cwillu> |{53, works for me
[15:17] <|{53> cwillu: strange
[15:18] <sanguisdex> cwillu: thanks worked great
[15:18] <SpriteSODA> guys please take a look http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=993919
[15:18] <sanguisdex> and it was an adventure
[15:18] <Slart> |{53: not that I know of
[15:18] <erUSUL> bw\: tere are some livecd0s (systemrescuecd comes to mind) that can load all required stuff in RAM but the ubuntu livecd can not (SRCD is way lighter than ubuntu) so it needs the cd in the drive
[15:18] <Slart> |{53: so you set a static ip in the network manager, click ok and it's instantly forgotten?
[15:18] <|{53> cwillu: I am going to try it again, maybe a recent update fixed it.
[15:19] <|{53> Slart: I am going to try again.
[15:19] <histo> Is there a server kernel? If so how is it different thant th eregular kernel?
[15:19] <steel_lady> geeeez, how many days this partitioning will last?!
[15:19] <Slart> histo: for one thing it supports PAE
[15:19] <netyire> steel_lady: the eta lies
[15:20] <erUSUL> histo: yes there is; it uses different configuration
[15:20] <histo> Hrm...
[15:20] <bw\> erUSUL: okay, since i only got a default live cd in may hands but i needed the alternate installer cd
[15:20] <Slart> histo: then I guess there are some settings.. making it less focused on latency and more focused on throughput.. but I'm just guessing now
[15:20] <innovate2000> trying to disable avahi in Intrepid (local LAN domain TLD = .local and cannot join Intrepid box to Win network)
[15:20] <histo> I'm trying to avoid downloading the server iso just to install on this old celery
[15:20] <steel_lady> netyire???
[15:20] <erUSUL> bw\: you do not have a system installed on hard disk from what to burn the iso file
[15:20] <Static--> how can i remove applications that have dependencies with gnome, lets say like whn i try to remove cheese webcam.. say it will remove gnome and gnome-desktop-enviroment..
[15:21] <Slart> histo: I think you can install the server kernel from synaptic.. not sure though
[15:21] <bw\> erUSUL: or is the default live version now capable of installing full-encrypted-lvm now?
[15:21] <recon69> bw\: think the default live CD can do the alt install these days.
[15:21] <|{53> cwillu: Acually my OK button is now greyed out, can't even save it at all.
[15:21] <erUSUL> bw\: dunno
[15:21] <netyire> steel_lady: usually the program sets the estimated time taken to complete tasks higher than is to be expected :-/
[15:21] <bw\> recon69: oh, that would be great
[15:21] <Slart> Static--: it says it will remove gnome and gnome-desktop-enviroment? not just ubuntu-desktop?
[15:21] <Static--> yep
[15:21] <n8tuser> histo -> you have a linux running already? thenyou can try the debootstrap method of installation
[15:21] <innovate2000> I've been looking online for a solution, but everything seems to be geared toward Hardy (8.04) - anyone know how to permanently disable avahi in Intrepid Ibex?
[15:21] <|{53> cwillu: i have all fields filled out...
[15:21] <bw\> erUSUL: nope, brand new thinkpad w/o OS :)
[15:21] <cwillu> innovate2000, same way
[15:22] <Static--> slart : yeah thats what it says
[15:22] <netyire> bw\: the default live cd can't do the alt install, you'll have to download the alt install cd to perform specific tasks like uprgrade to 8.10 from disc, oem install, text based install, etc
[15:22] <theDoc> Odd, very odd.
[15:22] <Slart> Static--: are you on 8.10? I just tried uninstalling cheese and it just removed it.. nothing else
[15:22] <histo> Slart, n8tuser I have the mini.iso just didn't want to download 700mb of garbage for the server iso cd.
[15:22] <steel_lady> netyire, it does not tell me any estimation but after the considerable amount of time, it turns out that only 10G of 320G is done
[15:22] <theDoc> wifi0: Unknown hardware address?
[15:22] <|{53> cwillu: wait, it is asking for a mac address - I wonder why this would be blank....
[15:22] <theDoc> Am I right to say that the OS doesn't have the drivers for it?
[15:22] <Static--> slart: yeah im on 8.10, and synapic says it will remove em
[15:22] <netyire> steel_lady: that must be the formating
[15:22] <cwillu> |{53, eh?
[15:22] <bw\> netyire: hmm, okay, so i have to find another way to get my alternate installer disk
[15:23] <netyire> steel_lady: could take some time for 320 GB :-(
[15:23] <digitalvaldosta> :)hello. I have a question about 8.10. I was trying to install a lock dialog theme like I had done in 8.04 (same theme file) and it's not working properly. I have installed it several times to make sure that I was running the commands right. I suppose that there is a difference in how it works in 8.04 from 8.10. Any thoughts?
[15:23] <recon69> ﻿bw\: i'll have to check but i'm sure i saw it last time i did an install, forget what i was pressing though, and the version of you live cd will matter
[15:23] <hejilin> 有没有中国的？
[15:23] <innovate2000> cwillu: with Hardy, I just went to Settings | Networks and there was a checkbox - but this version does not have that (using KDM/Kubuntu)
[15:23] <steel_lady> netyire, it is just resizing win!
[15:23] <erUSUL> !cn | hejilin
[15:23] <netyire> bw\: canonical doesn't shippit for free, you'll have to download or purchase it :-(
[15:23] <Slart> Static--: ah.. "gnome" is just a meta package.. it isn't the gnome DM
[15:23] <Slart> !info gnome
[15:23] <theDoc> wifi0: Unknown hardware address?, Am I right to say that the OS doesn't have the drivers for it?
[15:23] <Slart> Static--: see that size.. 44kb is a bit small.. =)
[15:24] <netyire> steel_lady: gosh and you're installing it now?
[15:24] <|{53> omg
[15:24] <Static--> slart: so im ok to remove em both???
[15:24] <cwillu> innovate2000, sorry, I know pretty much nothing about kubuntu
[15:24] <SpriteSODA> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=993919 =\
[15:24] <cwillu> innovate2000, if there's any terminal approaches, they'll still work
[15:24] <cwillu> innovate2000, by the way, why do you want to disable it anyway?
[15:24] <bw\> netyire: yeay ;( or i installed default ubuntu to download and burn the alternate version, just to reinstall again with crypted lvm -.-
[15:24] <Slart> Static--: what was the name of the other package?
[15:24] <digitalvaldosta> theDoc, click system >> administrator >> hardware drivers. You may have to select the check box for your device
[15:24] <netyire> steel_lady: oh, it might take some time to do that. it runs error checkers and stimulates the resize before doing anything. also, it runs an error check after resizing. it's parnoid... and slow :-(
[15:25] <netyire> steel_lady: just give it a couple hours :-)
[15:25] <innovate2000> cwillu: plus I could go into the /etc/default/avahi-daemon file and set the startup param to 0 - this is no longer available in Intrepid
[15:25] <|{53> cwillu - nvrmd, networkmanager is acting really strange. I will just set it manually...
[15:25] <Static--> slart: ill SS it, one sec
[15:25] <netyire> bw\: try downloading the iso from a mirror near you with axel
[15:25] <VSpike> Does anyone know at what level CRC checking is done in disk access? It is at the FS level, or the disk level? IOTW, if ddrescue says it got a block, am I guaranteed that block was read correctly?   Similarly, if there a block in the middle of a file on an ext3 fs is wiped to zero or FF, will the FS notice? Would fsck pick it up? would a normal read operation fail?
[15:26] <bw\> netyire: i already got the iso, the problem is to burn it -.-
[15:26] <Vinceman> how can you copy stuff into the Character Map?
[15:26] <theDoc> digitalvaldosta: Before I knocked gnome off this box, yes, that was already checked.
[15:26] <bw\> netyire: oh wait, can't i just dd the iso to an usb-thumup drive and boot from it?
[15:26] <theDoc> If anyone has to know, lspci shows it as - Atheros Communications Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev01)
[15:26] <|{53> Why doesn't Ubuntu support PAE?
[15:26] <cwillu> innovate2000, the standard way to disable it is to remove it from the runlevel afaik, kde should have a tool to do that
[15:26] <innovate2000> I need to disable it because the network tld = .local - and that is used for avahi. For Hardy, I disabled it and the server integrated with ease (to Windows network/GC/PDC). Everything I've read online suggests that avahi be disabled
[15:27] <cwillu> |{53, there's an overhead to it
[15:27] <Slart> |{53: the server version does.. but the desktop doesn't.. I think it's because it slows stuff down
[15:27] <cwillu> |{53, it's enabled on the server kernel (and the restricted modules are available for -server)
[15:27] <digitalvaldosta> theDoc, is it safe to say you are running only the command line
[15:27] <org-kiani> I bought ubuntu dedicated server on iweb,what is the best solution for install package such as mc and unzip on my ubuntu server ?
[15:27] <netyire> bw\: I'm not familiar with booting from usb drives, that might work, but it might wreck formatting the usb in the future. hmm, I'll have to refer this question to someone more knowledgeable :-)
[15:27] <|{53> Slart: so if I install server version I can get all of my RAM?
[15:27] <MadChopr> okay i need some help guys, i got ubuntu 8.04 (i need 8.04 because there are no pre-made drivers for 8.10 for elo touch screen) and i have an epson thermal receipt printer tm-t88II (older one) that i need to get working. there are no drivers for linux (CUPS) or anything that i can find; the 'generic - text-only' driver doesn't work and neither does the 'generic - raw' driver.   i've read that some people who use linux, just don't even 
[15:27] <bashca> i have  error  pppd demond has died exit code 2  ?? any help
[15:27] <cwillu> innovate2000, .local is reserved afaik
[15:27] <Slart> |{53: yes
[15:27] <Slart> |{53: but try the 64-bit version also
[15:28] <|{53> Slart: Sweet. Is it an overhead on CPU?
[15:28] <theDoc> digitalvaldosta: Pretty much
[15:28] <Slart> |{53: if you have more than 4GB of memory
[15:28] <theDoc> I'm running a fluxbox WM atm though
[15:28] <innovate2000> cwillu: yes it is, by avahi/zeroconf
[15:28] <theDoc> However, no funky GUI stuff.
[15:28] <Slart> |{53: I don't really know.. I've just heard that it just isn't worth using on a desktop
[15:28] <|{53> Slart: 64bit has issues still. Mainly flash....
[15:28] <histo> msg ubottu install
[15:28] <bw\> netyire: hehe okay, thanks for help anyway :)
[15:28] <cwillu> |{53 flash64bit is coming :)
[15:29] <netyire> bw\: gd luck :-)
[15:29] <cwillu> |{53, there's a prerelease available right now
[15:29] <bw\> netyire: thanks!
[15:29] <Slart> |{53: bah.. flash schmash.. it actually is ok with this version
[15:29] <erika14212> morning all
[15:29] <netyire> morning erika14212 :-)
[15:29] <|{53> cwillu , Slart : Cool. I might give 64bit another whirrl.
[15:29] <digitalvaldosta> theDoc, >:o brave, very brave, yet cool. Not sure what to say from here. I am only a novice at the cli. Even though I had two classes that are supposed to make me an admin. Good luck
[15:29] <Muthu_> hi guys
[15:29] <Static--> slart : http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ssrb0.jpg
[15:30] <erika14212> im surprised ambientb gui not been ported to ubuntu
[15:30] <erika14212> nice gui
[15:30] <digitalvaldosta> :)hello. I have a question about 8.10. I was trying to install a lock dialog theme like I had done in 8.04 (same theme file) and it's not working properly. I have installed it several times to make sure that I was running the commands right. I suppose that there is a difference in how it works in 8.04 from 8.10. Any thoughts?
[15:30] <innovate2000> cwillu: the network here has several servers based upon a Windows network where the LAN tld = .local - I've replaced all of the Windows servers with (k)ubuntu boxes - (Hardy) and now the last one I am trying to do I've updated the CD to Intrepid - but the old methods do not work with Intrepid to integrate with Active Directory
[15:30] <erika14212> anyone running gos
[15:30] <theDoc> digitalvaldosta: I have a couple of gentoo machines lying about, I don't have a problem with them
[15:30] <theDoc> Just ubuntu and it's wireless.
[15:30] <theDoc> Driving me nuts
[15:30] <Slart> !info gnome-desktop-enviroment | Static--
[15:31] <Slart> !info gnome-desktop-environment | Static--
[15:31] <justizin> bw\: you should be able to dd a (non-iso) image to a usb drive directly.. otherwise, you want unetbootin or the ubuntu 'liveusb' tool, which isn't in the standard package repo, but can be found by google i'm sure..
[15:31] <erika14212> I saw it at walmart
[15:31] <cwillu> innovate2000, whoever set the tld to .local should be harrassed, but anyways, the proper way to disable the avahi-daemon is by disabling it in the runlevel, which kde should have a tool to do.
[15:31] <Slart> Static--: same thing there.. installed size 44kB.. it's just a meta package.. you can delete them both
[15:31] <innovate2000> cwillu: thanks
[15:31] <justizin> bw\: what are you trying to do?
[15:31] <Muthu_> im new to linux i need help to set the screen resolution in terminal window ,
[15:32] <SpriteSODA> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=993919
[15:32] <erika14212> it better though to build yur pc
[15:32] <Static--> slart: eeek i hope so. seems risky
[15:32] <digitalvaldosta> theDoc, drivers should be in the repos. uno momento, while I look up what the package is called. also atheros is what you have
[15:32] <digitalvaldosta> ?
[15:32] <Oclet> ?
[15:32] <cwillu> innovate2000, I can't remember the terminal method right now, something like renaming /etc/rc.2/S*-avahi to K*-avahi
[15:32] <recon69> bw\: not sure what you trying but this migh help http://news.softpedia.com/news/Alternative-Installation-Methods-for-Hardy-86977.shtml
[15:32] <erika14212> than buy a dell or hp
[15:32] <theDoc> Interesting.
[15:32] <bw\> justizin: i have a notebook w/o OS, and just a ubuntu live cd .. but a want to install ubuntu only with crypted-lvm, thats why i need the alternate installer
[15:32] <Slart> Static--: ask the channel first then.. always good to get a second oppinion
[15:32] <theDoc> I pass my key as a string, it gives me invalid argument
[15:32] <theDoc> Why the heck do I have to use numbers only?
[15:33] <org-kiani> ﻿I bought ubuntu dedicated server on iweb,what is the best solution for install package such as mc and unzip on my ubuntu server ?
[15:33] <norbert79> good day
[15:33] <bw\> justizin: but i can't burn the alternate iso, since i got only one drive -.-
[15:33] <Appiah> org-kiani apt-get install <package>
[15:33] <Static--> slart : its just when i look in synapic what the gnome pkg is.. says its the whole damn thing
[15:33] <Slart> org-kiani: unzip should be available out of the box, I think.. mc is available from the repos
[15:33] <cwillu> org-kiani, apt-get install mc probably
[15:33] <cwillu> !info mc
[15:33] <|{53> LAST QUESTION: I can't get ubuntu to set my refresh rate properly. I have an Acer AL1916W monitor and a Nvidia GeForce 8800GT. Any ideas? The default refresh rate for my monitor is 75Hz and Ubuntu sets it to 59Hz.
[15:34] <cwillu> |{53, nvidia-settings
[15:34] <Slart> Static--: it probably says it DEPENDS on the whole thing.. it's just an easy way to install everything in one go.. instead of selecting all the separate packages
[15:34] <theDoc> digitalvaldosta: Give me a sec, fixing my wireless key to something numeric
[15:34] <Static--> slart : good point, im going to give it a go
[15:35] <org-kiani> Appiah: when I typed apt-get install <package> , there is no available for me
[15:35] <|{53> cwillu: the only option it gives my is 60Hz.
[15:35] <justizin> bw\: ah-ha, you may have the liveusb tool on the live cd, look under system in the application menu and see if there is 'install to usb drive' or 'usb installer'
[15:36] <justizin> if it goes really slow, you need to edit the python of the tool itself and change a mount command to not use "-o sync"
[15:36] <bw\> justizin: ahh, sound perfect, i'll give it a shot
[15:36] <Static--> Slart : well im still here, thanks for the help
[15:36] <Appiah> org-kiani: try apt-cache search
[15:36] <[c0re]> hi am getting locale errors....
[15:36] <org-kiani> Slart: this is not available in my source list in the package list !!!
[15:36] <Appiah> org-kiani: or http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[15:36] <|{53> cwillu - maybe there is a better channel for xserver issues?
[15:37] <thiebaude> |{53:in a terminal what does xrandr show
[15:37] <cwillu> |{53, #nvidia is probably your best bet (it's not an x issue, we can't do much with the nvidia driver)
[15:37] <justizin> bw\: if it doesn't make significant progress in 5-10min, at least more than a few notches on the progress bar, you've got the sync mount issue
[15:37] <Slart> org-kiani: which package
[15:37] <bw\> justizin: okay, i'll have this in mind
[15:37] <Slart> Static--: you're welcome
[15:37] <theDoc> Ok, I'm seriously stumped by this. Anyone knows what's with Ubuntu not taking any wireless keys (WPA-PSK) which contains letters and being less than 9 characters?
[15:37] <xplo> hmm
[15:37] <xplo> mirc635.exe
[15:37] <digitalvaldosta> theDoc, I found three packages, atl2-source madwifi-tools & hostapd. They are packages for the atheros wifi devices. hope this helps
[15:37] <ChrisBookwood> How do I get ubuntu to make connection with my bluetooth mouth on startup, so I don't have to pair the two every time i startup my computer?
[15:38] <Slart> xplo: nope.. wrong
[15:38] <theDoc> digitalvaldosta: ty for help
[15:38] <xplo> xplorer@ubuntu:~$ wine mirc635.exe
[15:38] <xplo> err:reg:SCSI_getprocentry bus id line scan count error (fscanf returns 0, expected 4)
[15:38] <xplo> wine: could not load L"C:\\windows\\system32\\mirc635.exe": Module not found
[15:38] <xplo> xplorer@ubuntu:~$
[15:38] <FloodBot2> xplo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:38] <xplo> its not starting mirc
[15:38] <xplo> :#
[15:38] <|{53> thiebaude - http://paste.ubuntu.com/77123/
[15:38] <digitalvaldosta> theDoc, yw
[15:38] <theDoc> I have to find out why they refuse to use any keys which are lesser than 9 numbers and containing a character.
[15:38] <xplo> sorry
[15:38] <theDoc> It's odd.
[15:38] <xplo> !pastebin
[15:39] <cwillu> xplo, #wine may be more useful
[15:39] <[c0re]> hello i am getting locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[15:39] <cwillu> xplo, or consider using pidgin
[15:39] <recon69> gtg , bye
[15:39] <[c0re]> errrrrrrrrrrrrorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[15:39] <Appiah> or use irssi ;)
[15:39] <[c0re]> or xchat
[15:39] <xplo> its an invite only channel
[15:39] <cwillu> (NOT xchat-gnome)
[15:39] <cwillu> wine?
[15:39] <cwillu> register your nick
[15:39] <xplo> pidgin ?
[15:40] <Appiah> xplo: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=12568
[15:40] <xplo> i want to run mirc on ubuntu
[15:40] <MenZa> irssi <3
[15:40] <Appiah> well it works xplo
[15:40] <cwillu> xplo, #winehq, rather
[15:40] <Appiah> read the link
[15:40] <MenZa> xplo: Why? Just... why?
[15:40] <Appiah> that I gave you
[15:40] <Appiah> MenZa: give him some time
[15:40]  * cwillu pokes Appiah with a stick
[15:40] <Appiah> He will soon go over to a native irc client
[15:40]  * cwillu pokes Appiah with a nativ stick
[15:41]  * Appiah pokes cwillu with two nativ sticks
[15:41] <Slart> theDoc: I'm not sure about this but can't WPA-PSK  use a passphrase instead of a key?
[15:41] <MenZa> Appiah: I see no reason why we shouldn't advocate using native applications over win32 software in Wine.
[15:41] <theDoc_> Slart: Sure it can.
[15:41] <MenZa> xplo: What parts of mIRC makes you want to use that over, say, XChat?
[15:41] <theDoc_> That's why I'm stumped to as to why this install of Ubuntu refuses to take anything other than a key which has more than 9 numbers
[15:41] <Slart> theDoc_: did you use regular 7bit ascii?
[15:41] <theDoc_> Slart: I'd have to check my config
[15:41] <theDoc_> Give me a sec
[15:41] <[c0re]> HI i am getting locale error. can anyone help me with it
[15:41] <cwillu> MenZa, granted that I ran ultraedit through wine for a month or two before I switched editors
[15:42] <cwillu> many years ago
[15:42] <Appiah> MenZa I see one .. for people that are new... it will just take a week and they will be asking for recommended irc clients for linux
[15:42] <Crusher> hey what sud i do in order to play  a .wmv file?
[15:42] <NoiseEee> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu Server successfully on an SATA drive, but i'd like to access the IDE internal drive from the system.  I don't see it mounted in /media.
[15:42] <Slart> theDoc_: wikipedia claims that wpa-psk can use a passphrase of 8-63 printable ascii characters.. or 64 hexadecimal digits
[15:42] <cwillu> Crusher, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:42] <netyire> Crusher: install the w32codecs
[15:42] <theDoc_> Slart: That's right.
[15:42] <netyire> Crusher: from medibuntu
[15:42] <Slart> Crusher: use vlc? there might be some codecs to install too
[15:42] <SirGlacious> Crusher, http://medibuntu.org
[15:43] <[c0re]> locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
[15:43] <theDoc_> According to my router config, it's just says a passphrase, 8 - 63 characters
[15:43] <Slart> theDoc_: and ubuntu wants 9 or more?
[15:43] <netyire> Crusher: Slart is right! install vlc from the repos and you should be able to play it
[15:43] <Decco> is it any software who let u create custom desklets ?
[15:43] <netyire> Crusher: that's probably the easiest way
[15:44] <theDoc_> Slart: Yes.
[15:44] <osxdude|laptop> Crusher, Slart: I believe VLC depends on the codecs.
[15:44] <org-kiani> Slart: mc and unzip
[15:44] <osxdude|laptop> In the repos, that is
[15:44] <netyire> osxdude|laptop: it does?
[15:44] <Slart> theDoc_: well.. why not give it 10 characters then.. should work on both
[15:44] <Crusher> Slart:netyire: yeah but my VLC does not play the movie with .wmv format
[15:44] <osxdude|laptop> I think.
[15:44] <netyire> osxdude|laptop: it does!
[15:44] <osxdude|laptop> cool.
[15:44] <Crusher> Slart: i can't see a screen
[15:44] <Slart> Crusher: never founda  wmv that vlc didn't play.. check the messages in vlc.. see if it tells you why it won't work
[15:45] <theDoc_> Anything other than that, it just tells me either Invalid Arguement
[15:45] <Muthu_> hi how to change the screen resolution , the default is 1280x1024 ,,
[15:45] <netyire> Crusher: looks like osxdude|laptop is right. you'll have to install w32codecs from the medibuntu repos then
[15:45] <Slart> !res | Muthu_
[15:45] <Lia> hello
[15:45] <osxdude|laptop> yay!
[15:45] <osxdude|laptop> :P
[15:45] <theDoc_> Slart: I travel alot, I cannot go overseas and demand whom ever is hosting me to reset their wireless key because ubuntu is broken?
[15:45] <cwillu> Muthu_, prefs | screen resolution
[15:45] <theDoc_> It just doesn't make sense in that manner
[15:45] <Crusher> netyire: ok thanks
[15:45] <Slart> theDoc_: ahh.. thought it was your own router.. hang on.. let me boot up my laptop... see what it says
[15:45] <alex__> hi
[15:46] <theDoc_> Sure thing, thank you
[15:46] <|{53> what is a good general chat room?/
[15:46] <LjL> |{53: #defocus
[15:47] <theDoc_> Slart: I'm going for a quick reboot on the notebook
[15:47] <theDoc_> I just installed some other stuff
[15:47] <theDoc_> This might help
[15:47] <alex__> what's up?
[15:48] <NoiseEee> hi, any help?
[15:48] <NoiseEee> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu Server successfully on an SATA drive, but i'd like to access the IDE internal drive from the system.  I don't see it mounted in /media.
[15:48] <osxdude|laptop> ok theDoc_ what's going down.
[15:48] <LjL> alex__: the sky. and Ubuntu support questions.
[15:48] <cwillu> theDoc, you're connecting by clicking the network, or by 'connect to hidden...'?
[15:48] <|{53> alex_ : u tell me.
[15:48] <osxdude|laptop> he just left.
[15:48] <osxdude|laptop> theDoc is gonna reboot his lappy.
[15:48] <Nasten> Hello everyone! I need some help with Compiz Place-windows plugin. Anyone willing to help?
[15:49] <rrplay> Crusher ; check this out http://guide.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=986781
[15:49] <osxdude|laptop> !compizplace
[15:49] <Crusher> rrplay: okay
[15:49] <osxdude|laptop> :/
[15:49] <Nasten> thanx ubottu. Anyone else? :-D
[15:49] <rrplay> Crusher : very recent and working
[15:50] <osxdude|laptop> lol
[15:51] <theDoc_> Slack: How is it?
[15:51] <cwillu> theDoc_, are you highlighting theDoc as well?  if not, could you change nicks to something unique
[15:51] <cwillu> theDoc_, you're connecting by clicking the network, or by 'connect to hidden...'?
[15:52] <NoiseEee> any help here please... i'd like to mount my 2nd internal hard-drive and access files from it at the command line.  i see it in /dev/disk/by-id/*** my disk name... how can i mount and access the files??
[15:52] <Crusher> hey guys i got this when i tried to convert the format using ffmpeg... http://pastebin.com/d1380b965
[15:52] <cwillu> NoiseEee, places menu probably already has it
[15:52] <osxdude|laptop> theDoc_, I would like to help, what is the problem.
[15:52] <emocow> Sorry, ;)
[15:52] <NicEXE> pos boro me ena launcher na tre3o 2 entoles?
[15:52] <osxdude|laptop> Nice.
[15:52] <emocow> I'm on a notebook here.
[15:52] <NoiseEee> cwillu: command line only, ubuntu server
[15:53] <emocow> osxdude|laptop: For some reason, Ubuntu refuses to take a WPA-PSK key which is lesser than 9 numbers or containing any letters
[15:53] <berhane_zion> Hi everyone, im gonna ask some utterly noobish question, if you feel its to stupid, don't bother answering :)
[15:53] <cwillu> NoiseEee, mount /path/to/device /folder/you/want/it/in -t file-system-type (or leave it off to try to autodetect)
[15:53]  * osxdude|laptop looks at bugs
[15:53] <osxdude|laptop> berhane_zion, ask away.
[15:53] <berhane_zion> how to i get to show the filepath as a visible column when searching for files
[15:53] <cwillu> !fstab | NoiseEee,
[15:54] <emocow> At this time, I'm also unable to have ubuntu pull the drivers out for this card, even after repeated websites saying that ubuntu supports this card already
[15:54] <[c0re]> !locale
[15:54] <emocow> tbh, I'm quite stumped
[15:54] <luis08> hey, how can I execute a command at startup? I know there's a file I can edit, but I can't remember it... thanks in advance
[15:54] <berhane_zion> in the option visible columns, there are only like name, size, type and other stuff i dont understand
[15:54] <ikonia> luis08: /etc/rc.local
[15:54] <berhane_zion> but no filepath
[15:54] <Slart> !boot | luis08
[15:54] <NoiseEee> cwillu thanks
[15:54] <rrplay> Crusher: look here and check you dvd apps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683
[15:55] <osxdude|laptop> What laptop do you have, emocow?
[15:55] <emocow> osxdude|laptop: x61s
[15:55] <emocow> lenovo
[15:55] <Crusher> rrplay: ok
[15:55] <Zemri96> h t t p : / /p x y B N C . t k h t t p : / /p x y B N C . t k h t t p : / /p x y B N C . t k h t t p : / /p x y B N C . t k h t t p : / /p x y B N C . t k h t t p : / /p x y B N C . t k h t t p : / /p x y B N C . t k h t t p : / /p x y B N C
[15:55] <GUL1> h t t p : / /p x y B N C . t k h t t p : / /p x y B N C . t k h t t p : / /p x y B N C . t k h t t p : / /p x y B N C . t k h t t p : / /p x y B N C . t k h t t p : / /p x y B N C . t k h t t p : / /p x y B N C . t k h t t p : / /p x y B N C
[15:55] <cwillu> berhane_zion, folder?
[15:55] <luis08> ikonia, is there another file that executes a command only for a specific user? I mean, executed at login
[15:56] <emocow> ergh, is there a need for this?
[15:56] <cwillu> berhane_zion, the folder column is the path
[15:56]  * osxdude|laptop breaths in
[15:56] <osxdude|laptop> emocow, yes. lol
[15:57] <LjL> RichiH: do we need +m?
[15:57] <RichiH> not any more
[15:57] <berhane_zion> folder is not on the list, only name, size, type, date modified, date accessed, group, MIME type, octal permissions, owner, permissions and SELinux context
[15:57] <emocow> Anyway, back to the topic. Any chance you could help me out on this please?
[15:57] <osxdude|laptop> whoops, I am getting msg flodded
[15:57] <NicEXE> how can I run 2 commands using a launcher?
[15:57] <NicEXE> *or more
[15:57] <osxdude|laptop> that was really quick...
[15:58] <emocow> Isn't there a command to ignore all msg's if they're not authenticated against nickserv?
[15:58] <rrplay> Crusher: also check post #4 here to troubleshoot if nec http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=864720&highlight=dvd
[15:58] <berhane_zion> when i try putting the name of someone in front of my msg, i get "Cannot send to channel"
[15:58] <LjL> NOTICE - if you couldn't speak during the past minutes, please try again now
[15:58] <remoteCTR1> NicEXE: write && between the two commands
[15:58] <rww> berhane_zion: channel was moderated. should work now
[15:59] <berhane_zion> oh
[15:59] <cwillu> berhane_zion, just had a spammer come through
[15:59] <berhane_zion> cwillu: folder is not on the list, only name, size, type, date modified, date accessed, group, MIME type, octal permissions, owner, permissions and SELinux context
[15:59] <cwillu> berhane_zion, where/how are you searching?
[15:59] <NicEXE> can anyone ban proxy and weg? they are spamming people privately
[15:59] <berhane_zion> with the normal filebrowser
[15:59] <emocow> btw, osxdude|laptop, is it possible for you to point me to which kernel module might use this wireless card?
[15:59] <LjL> NicEXE: they're not in this channel
[15:59] <berhane_zion> nautilus i believe its called
[16:00] <emocow> google isn't turning up anything for me at the moment
[16:00] <cwillu> berhane_zion, the location is shown above, everything there is in the current folder
[16:00] <osxdude|laptop> emocow, there is. right click on the card in your notification bar and click "Connecetion Information"
[16:00] <osxdude|laptop> emocow, it will say it under driver
[16:00] <cwillu> berhane_zion, click the pencil/paper icon to change it to a text field instead of path buttons
[16:00] <sinbox> if my panels are messed up do I do restart gnome-panel?
[16:01] <emocow> osxdude|laptop: No interface here, only fluxbox
[16:01] <cwillu> sinbox, define messed up
[16:01] <emocow> I threw gnome out
[16:01] <osxdude|laptop> Oh, nice.
[16:01] <emocow> Silly WM was lagging the entire desktop ;)
[16:01] <scientes> sinbox, yes, killall gnome-panel
[16:01] <berhane_zion> cwillu: i searched the whole filesystem, so all results are in root ? i expected it to search subfolders too, doesn't it do that ?
[16:01] <osxdude|laptop> Uh....maybe ifconfig might hel.
[16:01] <osxdude|laptop> *help
[16:01] <sinbox> bottom ones keep reappearing and disappearing, it's usually when I use qjackctl
[16:01] <cwillu> berhane_zion, how did you get to that search?
[16:01] <sinbox> that was to scientes
[16:01] <emocow> osxdude|laptop: What do you want to see in ifconfig?
[16:01] <emocow> or what are you looking out for?
[16:02] <osxdude|laptop> I don't know  :P
[16:02] <emocow> >_>
[16:02] <berhane_zion> cwillu: i opened the filebrowser, and in the toolbar on the top there is a button 'search'
[16:02] <osxdude|laptop> oh, lshw might have it somewhere, emocow.
[16:03] <osxdude|laptop> let me check
[16:03] <cwillu> berhane_zion, my bad.  Places | search has a folders field, I'll poke at nautilus a bit and see if I can find something else
[16:03] <kapipi> Anyone here who has the IBM usb keyboard with ultranav working with scroll on the touchpad?
[16:03] <sammyF> any opinion on whether it's worse trying a Creative Labs X-Fi card with 8.10? It wasn't without the latest OSS package on 8.04
[16:03] <osxdude|laptop> yes!
[16:04] <pcooper> i can't find gcc in the Adept list - is there a different source for stuff like that?
[16:04] <osxdude|laptop> emocow, run sudo lshw | less --chop
[16:04] <berhane_zion> cwillu: oh, i see, i could just use the places | search for files-function
[16:04] <feddozz> hello, How can i set up evolution to get it send/receive automatically?
[16:04] <emocow> osxdude|laptop: Yeah, well, I see it
[16:04] <emocow> So what do you need from that output? ;)
[16:04] <emocow> It's logical interface would be wifi0
[16:04] <sammyF> pcooper: try "sudo apt-get install linux-essential" in a shell
[16:04] <pcooper> sammyF: thanks
[16:04] <Slart> !wifi
[16:04] <cwillu> berhane_zion, yep.  The nautilus missing the folder name is probably a bug of some description;
[16:04] <osxdude|laptop> Oh, find your network card and tell me what is under "configuration" for the card, emocow
[16:04] <rww> pcooper, sammyF: shouldn't that be "build-essential"?
[16:05] <sammyF> rww: I stand corrected. Sorry :)
[16:05] <sammyF> pcooper: what rww said ;)
[16:05] <emocow> broadcast=yes driver=ath_pci latency=0 module=ath_pci multicast=yes wireless=802.11G
[16:05] <berhane_zion> cwillu: ok, thx, don't sweat it about nautilus, i will just use that search function for now
[16:05] <racquad> hi guys, I lost my connections. I'm having problems with my alsa settings.
[16:05] <berhane_zion> cwillu: i only started using ubuntu yesterday, so this will do for now
[16:05] <scunizi> pcooper: sudo apt-cache search gcc turns up lots of refrences.. sudo apt-get install build-essential will install an environment for compiling pkgs and other things.
[16:05] <cwillu> pcooper, there is a gcc package though, not sure why adept doesn't show it
[16:06] <cwillu> !info gcc
[16:06] <emocow> as far as I can see, it looks ok on that.
[16:06] <osxdude|laptop> emocow, the driver being used is ath_pci. Which means you have a atheros card.
[16:06] <emocow> Yep.
[16:06] <pcooper> scunizi: yeah the problem was adept wasnt shwing any of it - not sure why, apt-get found it just fine
[16:06]  * Mustinet yemek :P
[16:06] <Made_of_Iron> woo
[16:06] <Made_of_Iron> hi every one
[16:07] <emocow> osxdude|laptop: : That still doesn't answer the issue of ubuntu rejecting keys because they're lesser than 9 characters
[16:07] <emocow> or containing letters
[16:07] <osxdude|laptop> I know, emocow, just a sec
[16:07] <emocow> Aye.
[16:07] <|{53> Made_of_Iron: oy
[16:07] <berhane_zion> i got a couple of queries with the same link, but with spaces in between every sign
[16:07] <berhane_zion> was that any of you guys, or is that spam ?
[16:08] <feddozz> hello everyone, How can I set up evolution to get it send/receive automatically? I can't find the option
[16:08] <LjL> berhane_zion: it was spammers, it has been dealt with
[16:08] <cwillu> berhane_zion, that was the spammer I mentioned before
[16:08] <berhane_zion> kk, thx
[16:08] <Made_of_Iron> any chinese/
[16:08] <Made_of_Iron> any chinese?
[16:08] <LjL> !cn | Made_of_Iron
[16:08] <berhane_zion> can i get msg's with my nickname in front to be highlighted somehow, im using pidgin
[16:08] <osxdude|laptop> ok, emocow. apperently you have to use the madwifi driver.
[16:09] <emocow> ah
[16:09] <sammyF> any opinion  on my chances of complete nervous breakdown in trying a Creative Labs X-Fi with 8.10 ?
[16:09] <emocow> Now, how would I go about doing that?
[16:09] <alex__> helo
[16:09] <emocow> I've never done that before, tbh
[16:09] <n8tuser> feddozz -> something has to trigger it to send yes? receiving is basically put in the buffer..
[16:09] <LjL> berhane_zion: i thought that happened by default...?
[16:09] <osxdude|laptop> That's a great question. I haven't done it before :P
[16:09] <sudobash> Updating connection failed: nm-ifupdown-connection.c.82 - connection update not supported (read-only)..
[16:09] <sudobash> any one how to fix that?
[16:09] <emocow> osxdude|laptop: Oh, that's awesome.
[16:09] <keNzi> Is it possible to install Ubuntu (base system) within another distro or from livecd?
[16:10] <berhane_zion> LjL: i see now the nickname of the sender gets brown, didn't realize that before
[16:10] <cwillu> berhane_zion, seems reasonable :p
[16:10] <LjL> keNzi: from the live CD, for sure. that's actually the main supported way to install it.
[16:10] <edju> Trying to install a program - propietary, not free - I need the gtk library.  What must i install to get that?
[16:10] <emocow> Well, now.
[16:10] <feddozz> n8user> I just want it to check for new email automatically
[16:10] <berhane_zion> cwillu: what seams reasonable ?
[16:10] <n8tuser> keNzi -> yes, you can have fedora and use debootstrap to install ubuntu
[16:10] <sammyF> edju: you're not using Gnome, right?
[16:10] <LjL> edju, the GTK library is already installed, because it's needed by GNOME (and most programs) in Ubuntu
[16:10] <cwillu> edju, probably a combination of libgtk-*-dev
[16:10] <edju> sammyF, No, not gnome.
[16:11] <cwillu> LjL, he'll need the dev libs
[16:11] <cwillu> to compile against
[16:11] <LjL> cwillu: if it's a proprietary program as he says, it certainly won't be in source code form...
[16:11] <cwillu> maybe, dunno, guess it's not source, eh
[16:11] <n8tuser> feddozz -> then you monitor the directory where the mail is queued, but if its a pop you have to use a cron like mechanism to log on to yahoo lets say and download the mail
[16:11] <telaviv> is there any way to disable the whitelist system from firefox?
[16:11] <emocow> osxdude|laptop: Is there a link around or something?
[16:11] <osxdude|laptop> !driver
[16:11] <cwillu> telaviv, which?
[16:11] <osxdude|laptop> thanks.
[16:11] <LjL> edju: try the package libgtk2.0-0
[16:11] <trooper2008> !it
[16:11] <telaviv> cwillu the java applet whitelisting
[16:12] <cwillu> that'd be a java thing rather than firefox I'd expect
[16:12] <feddozz> n8user>>not a pop up
[16:12] <n8tuser> telaviv -> what is a whitelisting?
[16:12] <osxdude|laptop> !wifi | emocow
[16:12] <sammyF> edju: if libgtk2.0-0 that LjL talked about doesn't help, I think your best bet is to install gnome, even if you don't use it. THe needed libs should be in there
[16:12] <cwillu> telaviv, particular site you're having trouble with?
[16:12] <sudobash> Updating connection failed: nm-ifupdown-connection.c.82 - connection update not supported (read-only)..
[16:12] <n8tuser> feddozz -> POP mail or IMAP ?  not a pop up window
[16:13] <telaviv> cwillu, nope i just get this popup every time i see a java applet that asks me if i want to add the applet to a whitelist
[16:13] <feddozz> actually it is an exchange server
[16:13] <telaviv> cwillu i have no idea how to stop it, and its super annoying
[16:13] <n8tuser> !who  feddozz
[16:13] <axisys> what variable should I set to 1 in /etc/modules so that when I press the wifi button on my hp laptop it lits ?
[16:14] <n8tuser> !who | feddozz
[16:14] <edju> LjL, I already have libgtk2.0-0
[16:14] <Schneider> :)
[16:14] <cwillu> telaviv, ya, that'd be something with the java applet, #java might be of more assitance
[16:14] <LjL> edju, then you have GTK, and you're really looking for something else... what error does the program give exactly?
[16:14] <cwillu> telaviv, on the other hand, it's honestly been months since I ran into a java applet
[16:14] <feddozz> n8user>> sorry! I wat talking to you
[16:14] <|{53> !tab
[16:14] <rww> sudobash: have you tried googling that error message? looks like there's several informative pages there
[16:14] <trooper2008> hello can i ask a favour from who has 8.10 and cam ?
[16:15] <Oclet> no
[16:15] <telaviv> cwillu, hmmm weird, it seems like something everyone would see on the regular, but i'll ask there, thanks!
[16:15] <trooper2008> i need an urgent favour from who has 8.10 and cam can you go to mebeam site and see if you are able to see your self in cam?
[16:15] <sudobash> I booted Ubuntu partition in VMPlayer at the same time as Ubuntu was booted on accident while trying to boot the Windows Partition in VMplayer... It made my whole filesystem Read-Only and I have to run fsck to fix it, which it fixed a large majority of it but I am wondering what happened>
[16:15] <|{53> on the subjec of irc, how do I register my nick?
[16:15] <edju> LjL, It checks shared libraries, and says the gtk, gdk, and gmodule libraries are not found.
[16:15] <LjL> !register > |{53    (|{53, see the private message from ubottu)
[16:15] <cwillu> telaviv, I can't remember ever seeing a java whitelist popup
[16:16] <trooper2008> anyone can do me this favour to go to mebeam site and see if your cam works there with 8.10 ?
[16:16] <|{53> !register > |{53
[16:16] <sudobash> -
[16:16] <LjL> edju, then perhaps it's looking for another version?
[16:16] <telaviv> cwillu, what server is #java on?
[16:16] <cwillu> telaviv, no idea :p
[16:16] <cwillu> shot in the dark
[16:17] <Pici> telaviv: ##java is on this network
[16:17] <sudobash> did i shred my filesystem? everything looks intact...
[16:17] <lor> hi
[16:17] <Saint1993> Anyone know DVD burning software?
[16:18] <lor> do you know how to disable msttcorefonts and all those ugly microsoft fonts from firefox?
[16:18] <Pici> !burning | Saint1993
[16:18] <NicEXE> how can I run 2 commands using a launcher? (also with time delay)
[16:18] <lor> they came with "wine" but I don't want to use them in every app
[16:18] <Saint1993> so k3b mate?
[16:19] <cwillu> NicEXE, sh -c "foo-to-run-now & foo-to-also-run-now & sleep 5s; foo-to-run-later; foo-to-run-after-later;"
[16:20] <telaviv> Pici, hmmm i don't see it anywhere on the list
[16:20] <edju> LjL, Yes, I see, buried in the installation script, libgtk1.2.  So, off to install it.
[16:20] <sudobash> Sain1993 NeroLinux 3
[16:20] <rww> cwillu: shouldn't those be double-ampersands? i don't think single ones will work there...
[16:20] <cwillu> rww, && is logical: run this, and then run that iif this didn't fail
[16:21] <cwillu> rww, he probably just wants ;'s
[16:23] <sudobash> does anyone know the consequences of Opening the Filesystem twice?
[16:23] <Omar87> What do I need in order to play .rm videos in Ubuntu?
[16:23] <droopsta915> would the desktop effects enabled slow down my computer?
[16:23] <]{53> Omar87 : vlc will play .rm videos
[16:23] <n8tuser> sudobash -> what do you mean?
[16:23] <]{53> droopsta915: there is an overhead, so yes.
[16:24] <Nido6> Enter text here...whts up
[16:24] <Nido6> nido
[16:24] <droopsta915> thanks
[16:24] <Omar87> Thanks.
[16:24] <Nido6> help
[16:24] <sudobash> I booted my Ubuntu partition in VMPlayer at the SAME TIME as Ubuntu was ON on accident while trying to boot the Windows Partition in VMplayer... It made my whole filesystem Read-Only and I have to run fsck to fix it, which it fixed a large majority of it but I am wondering what happened>
[16:24] <occy> hey guys, I have a DWL-AG132 USB wireless card I can't seem to get working.  Any suggestions?  Is there a howto for something like this?  (I couldn't find one)
[16:24] <seiei> Hello
[16:24] <Nido6> use your magic
[16:25] <Nido6> what is this
[16:25] <Nido6> s
[16:25] <Nido6> helo
[16:25] <Nido6> any bidy home
[16:25] <Pici> Nido6: This is the Official Ubuntu Support channel.
[16:25] <sudobash> I did run fsck from recovery mode and it fixed it I believe but I am curious is there any damage that could have come from this?
[16:25] <sudobash> I managed to boot my windows partition finally
[16:25] <n8tuser> sudobash -> i doubt it
[16:25] <sudobash> boot i didnt mean to boot the ubuntu in ubuntu
[16:26] <n8tuser> sudobash -> what do you mean boot the ubuntu in ubuntu?
[16:26] <sudobash> well i am having the Updating connection failed: nm-ifupdown-connection.c.82 - connection update not supported (read-only)..
[16:26] <innovate2000> Intrepid still cannot join domain ("net ads join") - error: "failed to join domain: failed to find DC for domain DOMAIN.LOCAL". I've done this several times with Hardy - even have a cheat sheet to make it easier - but it does not work the same way with Intrepid (I've been thorough). Has anyone else had this problem with Intrepid? I found this posting which is pretty much an exact representation of
[16:26] <innovate2000>  my problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6252005 - see page 18 and the post by DouglasK (I've even emailed him - with no joy) - his problem seems to be exactly my problem.
[16:26] <sudobash> Ubuntu Partition VM in Ubuntu... its was booting itself in vmplayer
[16:26] <sudobash> someone last night was like sounds like your shredding your filesystem
[16:27] <sudobash> and my whole FS was READ ONLY
[16:27] <n8tuser> sudobash -> then you can attempt to remount it rw
[16:27] <sudobash> well i ran fsck from recovery and fixed tons or errors
[16:28] <pmj> Is there a way to eject the CD when running from a live CD? I need to burn a CD with a later version of Ubuntu.
[16:28] <droopsta915> why does my computer take for ever to open anything online? Yesterday it was running fairly fast.
[16:28] <Neaai> pmj: probably not
[16:28] <OldFarter> I'm trying to change the usplash theme, make X 1024x768x24 all the way, make it boot straight into X session without GDM, and change the menu button....
[16:28] <sudobash> and seemed to worked fine after reboot but now I cant edit network settings except manually ifconfig and sudo route add default gateway 10.10.10.1
[16:29] <cwillu> pmj, not really, it's possible in theory, but difficult in practice:  the kernel is expecting to be able to load binary data from the cd at its leisure
[16:29] <sudobash> which I shouldnt have to do... also my /etc/resolv.conf is empty after each reboot
[16:29] <tscolin> when i use compiz-fusion, my screen only used a quarter of my monitor
[16:29] <pmj> Any better ideas that that? I have no usable computer to burn a CD from. The only way I can boot is via the live CD.
[16:29] <tscolin> and i cuts everything off?
[16:29] <tscolin> any idea of how to fix this?
[16:29] <n8tuser> sudobash -> then you can attempt to remount the FS to make it rw
[16:29] <sudobash> yeah it is rw now
[16:29] <sudobash> i believe
[16:29] <svvvs> hi,why i can't use my keyboard and mouse at the same time?
[16:29] <cwillu> droopsta915, kill any torrents that are active on your network?  That's my first suspicion
[16:30] <sudobash> i mean i can read and write files in home and /etc
[16:30] <OldFarter> How can i make X only run 1024x768x24?
[16:30] <n8tuser> !who | sudobash
[16:30] <svvvs> ﻿ hi,why i can't use my keyboard and mouse at the same time in ubuntu 8.10?
[16:30] <droopsta915> cwillu: let me check it out, thanks
[16:30] <berhane_zion> !tab
[16:30] <sudobash> OldFarter Either use the Desktop Resolution Tool or change your settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:31] <axisys> ever since I upgraded to 8.10 .. when I doc my laptop I need to restart for the external display to work.. is that a bug I am hitting?
[16:31] <sudobash> n8tuser... I was speaking to whoever can help me
[16:31] <svvvs> hi everybody,i want ask ﻿why i can't use my keyboard and mouse at the same time in ubuntu 8.10?
[16:31] <OldFarter> what resolution and depth is the one that i need to use to make the usplash theme thing work?
[16:31] <Neaai> pmj: you will need a drive for the burner. While the livecd is running, the drive is locked for it's where the livecd has mounted (compressed even) all what you see and use while you use it. It's like having a filesystem in readonly.
[16:32] <n8tuser> sudobash -> can you edit your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[16:32] <Samuel-NotAFK> Does any-one know of an IRC client that automatically updates the Peerguardian IP list into the IP blocklist?
[16:32] <sudobash> yes
[16:32] <sudobash> i have already
[16:32] <darth10> Samuel-NotAFK, i think u can make a script to do dat
[16:32] <sudobash> but it doesnt when i do sudo ifconfig eth0 down / up it doesnt pull anything from the iface eth0
[16:32] <n8tuser> sudobash -> you refuse my request, im going to miss your responses
[16:33] <droopsta915> my system monitor shows nothing is running, but when I'm online the computer is slow.
[16:33] <sanguisdex> can any one help, the alt-tab fuction keeps on randomly stoping working until I log off
[16:33] <pmj> Neaai: I was hoping for an alternative solution, if one exists. I guess I could install the old version of Ubuntu, download and burn the new one and then reinstall, but I thought perhaps there was a better and faster way.
[16:33] <svvvs> Does any-one know ﻿why i can't use my keyboard and mouse at the same time in ubuntu 8.10?
[16:33] <NicEXE> "metacity --replace; sleep 3s; neverball" metacity neverball will be executed only if metacity terminates... Is there a way to run execute neberball while metacity is still running?
[16:34] <darth10> svvs, mayb u havent configured it
[16:34] <]{53> svvvs: what type of connection is your keyboard and mouse using?
[16:34] <rrplay> OldFarter: -> do you have Package: usplash-theme-ubuntu  installes ?
[16:34] <sudobash> n8tuser: yes i can edit my /etc/network/interfaces but when i do sudo ifconfig eth0 down / up it doesnt pull anything from the iface eth0
[16:34] <svvvs> my connection are usb
[16:34] <gregseth> hi there, does anyone know how to set the time before the screen enters power saving mode, on the gdm login window
[16:34] <sudobash> iface eth0 inet 10.10.10.2 255.0.0.0 10.10.10.1
[16:34] <]{53> svvvs: is it through a usb hub?
[16:34] <sudobash> n8tuser: iface eth0 inet 10.10.10.2 255.0.0.0 10.10.10.1
[16:34] <svvvs> no
[16:34] <n8tuser> sudobash -> try  sudo  ifdown eth0;  sudo ifup eth0
[16:34] <svvvs> connected direct to my computer
[16:34] <vladtsepesh1984> what i have to do to use spdif optical out of my terratec audio card????
[16:35] <UnknownUser56> usb hubs have problems with ubuntu,if not ,both keyboard and mouse are connected through usb ports here
[16:35] <Neaai> pmj: I'm thinking you can try to install with that livecd in an usb disk, then use that usb to boot, this time with a usable cd drive, and burn what you need.
[16:35] <]{53> svvvs: so when u type on your keyboard the mouse doesn't work?
[16:35] <oakmac> I have an external USB sound card.  Sometimes it will reset itself (known hardware problem).  When this happens and it comes back online Ubuntu sound does not work.  How can I tell Ubuntu to reload this device?
[16:35] <darth10> svvs, hah!...dats not a software fault....the usb is multiplexed...poor design
[16:35] <svvvs> oh,my god,yes, my keyboard and my mouse are connected to a usb hub
[16:36] <darth10> svvs, lol
[16:36] <sudobash> n8tuser: well like i said i had to do the sudo ifconfig 10.10.10.2 and then sudo route default gateway 10.10.10.1 to get online so let me disable all that and then try the ifdown and ifup...
[16:36] <pmj> Neaai: I don't have a USB disk. I'll just do it the time consuming way. Thanks for the help.
[16:36] <svvvs> there are so many line in my table,sorry, didn't see it,:)
[16:36] <trooper2008> hello i have a folder that im not able to delete from desktop even with permissions what i do?
[16:36] <svvvs> thanks darth10
[16:36] <]{53> svvvs: try to take it out and plug it direct. also try a different port.
[16:36] <rrplay> vladtsepesh1984: -> check out your kernel config  you may need to either rebuild with the module for your card
[16:36] <darth10> i dont get Y ubuntu has probs with hubs... there isnt even any firmware on them
[16:37] <trooper2008> i need to delete a folder from desktop that won't delete even with permissions can you tell me how?
[16:37] <]{53> darth10: it may be the hub and not ubuntu
[16:37] <svvvs> no, now they are connected to my computer directly but the problem exist
[16:37] <n8tuser> darth10 -> try  sudo  lshal  and see if those usb devices are on the list..
[16:37] <darth10> trooper2008, do a gksudo nautilus ... n then delete whatever u want ( be careful though )
[16:37] <]{53> svvvs: so you cannot use your mouse right now?
[16:37] <svvvs> i can use my mouse when i don't touche my keyboard
[16:38] <Neaai> pmj: there could be ways but probably are not trivial and will requre the creation of a ramdisk, then transfering the live-cd image in the ramdisk, then remount the root filesystem from that ramdisk... all these if I remember correctly what I've seen being discussed.
[16:38] <trooper2008> you have to guide me darth10  as im new
[16:38] <trooper2008> can you copy paste me commands ?
[16:38] <darth10> n8tuser, i think an lsusb will be more apropos
[16:38] <svvvs> ]}53, i found sth
[16:38] <n8tuser> darth10 -> if you say so, to each his own
[16:38] <darth10> trooper2008, ok..
[16:38] <toldyoutoo> a bit forcey, who's up?
[16:38] <darth10> n8tuser, touche :)
[16:39] <samll> how do I search for packages?  apt-get search ?
[16:39] <vladtsepesh1984> can you be more specific?? i'm very newwbbb
[16:39] <trooper2008> as this file has a lock near it even with permissions on my desktop and won't delete the folder is flashcam-1.1
[16:39] <vladtsepesh1984> :D
[16:39] <trooper2008> thanx
[16:39] <samll> !apt
[16:39] <darth10> trooper2008, do a "gksudo nautilus"
[16:39] <LjL> !package > samll    (samll, see the private message from ubottu)
[16:39] <axisys> where do I set led=1 on ubuntu 8.10 for the wifi led switch to lit?
[16:39] <LjL> !packages > samll    (samll, see the private message from ubottu)
[16:39] <trooper2008> darth10,  you are on 8.10 and have webcam??
[16:39] <innovate2000> anyone have problems with Intrepid and net ads join?
[16:39] <]{53> svvvs: what?
[16:39] <trooper2008> as i need a favour afther
[16:39] <toldyoutoo> pseudo install, ie apt-get install _searchterm_+* will list all knowns.
[16:39] <oakmac> How do I tell Ubuntu to reload a USB device?
[16:39] <axisys> aparently /etc/modprobe.d is obsolete now
[16:39] <darth10> trooper2008, yes but im at work :P...i cant be seen goofin off :D
[16:40] <svvvs> ]}53, the first time i connect to another port, there are not conflict between them, about 30 secs after, they can't work together
[16:40] <]{53> svvvs: try this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=545244
[16:40] <n8tuser> axisys -> since when?
[16:40] <Shay26m> !ftp
[16:40] <darth10> ubottu, wats wrong wit "ftp" ????
[16:40] <svvvs> ]}53 ,i ll  try it,thanks
[16:40] <Shay26m> Hello , can someone recommend me on good ftp server for Ubuntu ?
[16:40] <]{53> Shay26m: I think filezila is the best. ;)
[16:40] <darth10> lol
[16:40] <rrplay> vladtsepesh1984: .. query your card info in kernel add kernel or mudule to it
[16:40] <LjL> !ftpd | Shay26m
[16:41] <]{53> Shay26m: sorry Filezilla.
[16:41] <LargePrime> Greetings I have an old laptop that I want to UbunU.
[16:41] <toldyoutoo> shaylo, secure or non-?
[16:41] <LargePrime> 1) Can someone link the "old computers" build?
[16:41] <LargePrime> 2) I have no Floppy or CD.  Can I install the OS to the HD Directly (Via USB connector) then install the HD in the lap top, and boot from it.
[16:41] <LargePrime> 3) any other wise advice
[16:41] <trooper2008> can i pm you darth10  as its a very fast thing that might help all ubuntu and linux bsd users if it will work ok?
[16:41] <FloodBot2> LargePrime: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:41] <trooper2008> and thanx for help
[16:41] <]{53> LargePrime: UbunU?!
[16:41] <axisys> n8tuser: man update-modules
[16:41] <]{53> LargePrime: LOL
[16:41] <Shay26m> where i can find guides for installation of ftp server ?
[16:41] <toldyoutoo> fuse on the downlo, apache-lite with features.
[16:41] <rrplay> vladtsepesh1984: i mean google your card info with kernel module
[16:41] <n8tuser> axisys -> it still work for me, am on gutsy
[16:41] <cobra_> #join ubuntu.it
[16:42] <darth10> Shay26m, try ProFTP..it comes wit a installation n config guide...
[16:42] <]{53> Shay26m: Sorry, thought you were looking for a client.
[16:42] <axisys> n8tuser: i am on 8.10
[16:42] <LargePrime> I have some sor(t) of lisp that causes the dropping of (t's)
[16:42] <toldyoutoo> largeprime, use netinst and install via internet or anothersystem with networking.
[16:42] <]{53> LargePrime: Did you download the ISO?
[16:42] <LjL> cobra_: better luck with /join #ubuntu-it
[16:42] <rrplay> vladtsepesh1984: .. then check /boot/config    your kernel config to see if any info about your optic card whatever is there
[16:43] <zeber> Hi, if someone could give me a hand with printing from Ubuntu on Printers from Windows Network.
[16:43] <oakmac> How do I reload a USB device?
[16:44] <scunizi> oakmac: sudo mount -a
[16:44] <Randall1> so when i use the propriertary nvidia driver for my Geforce4: MX 420 it says "failed to initialize kernal upon startup" etc what can i do to fix this
[16:44] <n8tuser> axisys -> so on your 8.10  you dont have /etc/modprobe.d/  ?
[16:44] <Omar87> How do I install a .bin package?
[16:44] <LjL> Omar87: what is it?
[16:44] <oakmac> scunizi: that didn't work; my device isn't a hard drive, it's a sound card
[16:45] <oakmac> does that make a difference?
[16:45] <amikrop> $ sudo mount -o loop Icewind/IcewindDaleCD1.bin cd/
[16:45] <scunizi> Omar87: sudo ./<filename>
[16:45] <amikrop> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[16:45] <svvvs> ]}53 thank u very much, it works
[16:45] <amikrop> Is that logical?
[16:45] <Omar87> Real Player for Linux
[16:45] <gregseth> does anyone know how to set the time before the screen enters power saving mode, on the gdm login window
[16:45] <amikrop> To ask me a filesystem type?
[16:45] <LjL> amikrop: is that .bin file an ISO?
[16:45] <amikrop> LjL: I don't know
[16:45] <amikrop> LjL: It should be
[16:45] <LjL> amikrop: then do "file filename.bin", it will tell you.
[16:45] <dury> hi there all :)
[16:45] <zeber> Hi, if someone could give me a hand with printing from Ubuntu on Printers from Windows Network.
[16:46] <LjL> amikrop: (it probably isn't)
[16:46] <kapipi> Can anyone remember an easy way to look at how ones current kernel is configured?
[16:46] <]{53> dury: hey
[16:46] <amikrop> LjL: $ file Icewind/IcewindDaleCD1.bin
[16:46] <amikrop> Icewind/IcewindDaleCD1.bin: data
[16:46] <rrplay> kapipi: .. /boot/config
[16:46] <amikrop> LjL: I also have a .cue file
[16:46] <kapipi> rrplay: aah yeah that was it, thank you
[16:46] <dury> ]{53: how do you doing there?
[16:46] <LjL> amikrop: then it's definitely not an ISO, you can't mount it
[16:46] <dcider> software sources-download from  whats the best site, the canadian site are too slow...
[16:46] <Omar87> scunizi: Nope, didn't work.
[16:46] <LjL> !info bchunk | amikrop
[16:46] <amikrop> LjL: How can I get its contents?
[16:46] <]{53> dury: home with a cold, u? Do you need help with Ubuntu?
[16:47] <scunizi> Omar87: sudo sh <filename.bin>
[16:47] <scunizi> Omar87: sudo sh ./<filename>
[16:47] <NicEXE> only the first command is executed. how to fix it? --> metacity --replace & neverball
[16:47] <LjL> scunizi: what a terrible thing to say, without having a clue what's in the file...
[16:47] <LjL> scunizi: with sudo, even
[16:47] <amikrop> LjL: ok, thanks
[16:47] <scunizi> LjL: didn't he say Real Player
[16:48] <dury> ]{53: well... just want to know how do I convert a .vob file to flash... that's swf I guess which application I need?
[16:48] <LjL> scunizi: so he did, then why didn't you point it to ways to use the Real format by means of official packages?
[16:48] <LjL> Omar87, why do you need Real Player?
[16:48] <Omar87> LjL: Why would I not need it? :D
[16:48] <dury> ]{53: what do you suggest or recommend me
[16:49] <dVs--> how do i set up dual display ?
[16:49] <telaviv> i can't find the ##java channel. It's not on the channel list and when i try to to force the joining it does nothing
[16:49] <Omar87> LjL: I need to watch .rm vidz.
[16:49] <scunizi> LjL: maybe I don't know .. why haven't you?..
[16:49] <Randall1> how do u update xorg conf file from online?
[16:49] <LjL> Omar87: uhm... because it's a proprietary program that has no Ubuntu package, and the video/audio files it opens can be played with other tools. for example.
[16:49] <dVs--> when i goto resolution settings it only shows one monitor
[16:49] <]{53> dury: first step is to get it to a avi. Then upload to youtube?
[16:50] <LjL> scunizi: i'm doing it just now. that doesn't mean bad advice suddenly becomes good
[16:50] <]{53> dury: would that work?
[16:50] <NicEXE> only the first command is executed. how to fix it? --> metacity --replace & neverball
[16:50] <]{53> dury: for you I mean?
[16:50] <Al2O3> is there a tool (live cd maybe) that can be used to boot from that will then wipe out the entire PC/Windows HD, and then I can install Ubuntu.  I have burned 3 CDs trying to install Ubuntu on a Toshiba A105 S2141 without success.  Tried the alternative CD even, and have gone down to 4x burning to ensure it is not the burn speed.  Locks up during the boot install.  I have verified media, as well as memory.  All is fine.  Any thoughts on ma
[16:50] <Omar87> LjL: Actually that's true. VLC can do everything. :)
[16:50] <Omar87> Thanks
[16:50] <rrplay> Omar87: a multimedia guide here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683
[16:51] <emet> how do I keep apt-get from installing recommended packages automatically
[16:51] <]{53> Al2O3: http://www.dban.org/
[16:51] <dury> ]{53: I don't want to publish it in youtube in my site
[16:51] <Defrysk> emet, I believe its explained in the releasenotes
[16:51] <LjL> Omar87: yes, VLC is an option. another is installing the appropriate codecs for gstreamer
[16:51] <LjL> !restricted > Omar87    (Omar87, see the private message from ubottu)
[16:51] <droopsta915> i downloaded a folder called powertweak-0.99.5, how can I run the files in it?
[16:52] <LjL> Omar87: start by installing the "ubuntu-restricted-extras" package, and see if that makes Totem or whatever play them.
[16:52] <NicEXE> only the first command is executed. how to fix it? --> metacity --replace & neverball
[16:52] <]{53> dury: I use acidrip to get the files from vob to avi. works well.
[16:52] <LjL> Omar87: if not, look for the "non-free-codecs" package in Medibuntu
[16:52] <DRebellion> NicEXE, you need two '&' symbols: &&
[16:52] <LjL> emet: are you sure it's a good idea to always do that? you can use aptitude with the "--without-recommends" option to do it on a case-by-case basis
[16:53] <dury> ]{53: how do I convert it in avi... through acidrip as u said?
[16:53] <dVs--> or just try to play an mp3 and it will prompt you to install the restricted codecs
[16:53] <dVs--> at least it did for me
[16:53] <emet> LjL, wine is pulling winbind, I don't want winbind
[16:53] <LjL> emet: then install it with "sudo aptitude --without-recommends install wine"
[16:53] <Al2O3> ]{53: that is a great tool, yet I need it on a bootable CD image to burn, then boot from it on my portable and wipe the HD before I try again to install the OS.
[16:53] <NicEXE> DRebelion: I use only one of '&' symbol else the second command will only run after the first is terminated
[16:54] <]{53> Yeah. You need to install acidrip: sudo apt-get install acidrip
[16:54] <Al2O3> I'm trying to eliminate potential probelms, and thinking (maybe flawed) that the drive is causing things to lock up.
[16:54] <dury> ]{53: so.... sudo apt-gat install acidrip  ?
[16:54] <DRebellion> NicEXE, oh i see. you want to run both at the same time? command1 --args &; command2 --args
[16:54] <Al2O3> during the install of ubuntu (ya, I'm reaching here, but reaching nevertheless for solutions)
[16:54] <multiverse> hello world
[16:54] <dury> ]{53: sorry apt-get
[16:54] <mrrcp> soo is kubuntu any good?
[16:55] <]{53> Al2O3: Actually I think I misunderstood you. Just choose to format on your next install.
[16:55] <DRebellion> NicEXE, perhaps that won't work =/
[16:55] <LjL> !offtopic | mrrcp
[16:55] <]{53> dury: Yes.
[16:55] <Crusher> hey when i try to unzip n ./configure a tar.bz2 file i get "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory"
[16:55] <mrrcp> !offtopic LjL
[16:55] <sudobash> well i got the network working without having to sudo route anything... but I still cant use the Network Configuration Manager oh well as long as it stays like this... I am also running my Windows Partition in VMPlayer for testing
[16:55] <NicEXE> DRebellion: it does not work
[16:55] <]{53> dury: Then it will be in Applications -> Sound and Video -> AcidRip.
[16:55] <LjL> mrrcp: excuse me?
[16:55] <ikonia> Crusher: is the conigure file in the directory
[16:55] <mrrcp> :)
[16:56] <DRebellion> NicEXE, i know. i'm not sure how to do it.
[16:56] <Crusher> ikonia: nop
[16:56] <LjL> Crusher: what package is that?
[16:56] <ikonia> Crusher: I suggest you look at a README or INSTALL file which is normally in the same directory
[16:56] <ikonia> Crusher: don't just blindly type "configure" for packages it can do more damage then good
[16:56] <n8tuser> sudobash -> did that work? sudo ifup eth0 ?
[16:56] <Crusher> ikonia: oh
[16:56] <Al2O3> where can I find the format drive, I have pushed F4 for options modes, F6?
[16:56] <ikonia> Crusher: what do you want to install ?
[16:56] <Crusher> ikonia: hey how can i upgrade my firefox?
[16:56] <ikonia> Crusher: wait for ubuntu to release an update package
[16:56] <sudobash> n8tuser: yes after I configured /etc/network/interfaces correctly
[16:57] <Crusher> ikonia: i just downloaded the whole stuff
[16:57] <LjL> Crusher: upgrade to what?
[16:57] <ikonia> Crusher: what version do you want to go to
[16:57] <linux_user400354> how can perl be used with gimp
[16:57] <ikonia> Crusher: that is VERY unwise
[16:57] <dury> ]{53: right.. I appreciate your help and support :)
[16:57] <suspect43> hi, i'm having trouble with firefox. it runs REALLY slow, and misses keystrokes, and occasionally ignores certain keys. these keys work in other apps, just not in firefox (so, for example, if i type ubuntu in the address bar, the 'b' makes focus switch to a textarea or something, and i'm unable to type that letter there.)
[16:57] <trooper2008> hello anyone able to make mebeam work with 8.10??
[16:57] <sudobash> n8tuser: Thank You
[16:57] <Crusher> ikonia: i want to upgrade it to firefox3
[16:57] <n8tuser> sudobash -> now take a note in regards to difference between ifconfig command and the script  ifup
[16:57] <Al2O3> oh, I mean where can I specify in the alternative CD boot/install process to format the HD?
[16:57] <ikonia> Crusher: what version of ubuntu are you running ?
[16:57] <n8tuser> sudobash -> you're welcome
[16:57] <LjL> Crusher: what Ubuntu version are you using? Firefox 3 is default in current versions.
[16:57] <]{53> dury: You are welcome! Getting it to flash is a bit more complicated - but I think your first step is getting away from DVD format.
[16:58] <Crusher> ikonia: ubuntu ultimate.
[16:58] <LjL> !ultimate | Crusher
[16:58] <ikonia> Crusher: ubuntu ultimate is nothing to do with ubuntu, nor is it supported here
[16:58] <zeber> Hi, if someone could give me a hand with printing from Ubuntu on Printers from Windows Network.
[16:58] <NicEXE> DRebellion: it does not work
[16:58] <dury> ]{53: right :)
[16:58] <LjL> ikonia, Crusher: it's not even called Ubuntu Ultimate, it's called Ultimate Edition
[16:58] <ikonia> LjL: of crouse
[16:58] <ikonia> course
[16:58] <DRebellion> NicEXE, i told you. I know that command does not work. I do not know how to make it work.
[16:59] <Crusher> ikonia: i mean it is one of the modifications in hardy, isn't it?
[16:59] <DRebellion> NicEXE, perhaps ask the channel again for help?
[16:59] <NicEXE> only the first command is executed. how to fix it? --> metacity --replace & neverball
[16:59] <ikonia> Crusher no it's not
[16:59] <ikonia> Crusher: it's not an ubuntu release
[16:59] <Crusher> ikonia: oh i c
[17:00] <bassliner> ez
[17:00] <ubuntu> my mozilla doesn't want to open pages!
[17:00] <]{53> ubuntu: what is the error?
[17:00] <Al2O3> sadly either installing or booting (trying without installing) the alternative and normal Ubuntu CDs don't work.  I have replaced the 512Meg stick with 2x1 gig just in case (bought last night), and the system haults at the same point during that install/boot.  I'm not sure why, as the progress bar is in the way of any textual information that may be useuful in standard out.
[17:01] <Randall1> so i have a problem with the nvidia kernal being loaded and i'm not sure what is wrong
[17:01] <ubuntu> ]{53, Firefox is currently in offline mode and can't browse the Web.
[17:01] <Crusher> ikonia: how can i upgrade firefox from cmd prompt?
[17:01] <ikonia> Randall1: what is the description or symptoms of the errorr
[17:01] <Al2O3> I'd like to know where in the boot process this is locking up.  Is there a way to boot with standard out showing, or some way to toggle standout so I can see where things are halting.
[17:01] <LjL> ubuntu: go to the File menu and uncheck Offline Mode then
[17:01] <Crusher> ikonia: is it apt-get upgrade firefox?
[17:01] <ikonia> Crusher: you've just been told a.) that is VERY unwise b.) not supported here
[17:01] <]{53> ubuntu: is this the same PC you are on now?
[17:01] <LjL> Crusher, Ultimate Edition is not Ubuntu. either install Ubuntu and seek help here, or go to Ultimate Edition's support venues. here, we don't know how Ultimate Edition might work, and we can't help.
[17:01] <ikonia> Crusher: was it not clear that your distro is not supported here
[17:01] <Crusher> ikonia: oh sory
[17:02] <Al2O3> <-- seriously (and sadly) thinking of reinstalling Windows XP SP2 since this is not working.
[17:02] <Crusher> ikonia: i presume no
[17:02] <ikonia> Al2O3: please do,
[17:02] <Omar87> Guys, don't you think that Ubuntu should come with mono-based applications such as Tomboy notes and Rhythmbox pre-installed?
[17:02] <sofiankrt> I'm having trouble with zenity. Whenever I run zenity, it launches in the background, behind all the other windows
[17:02] <n8tuser> NicEXE -> && will only execute if the command previous finishes without error
[17:02] <NicEXE> only the first command is executed. how to fix it? --> metacity --replace & neverball
[17:02] <Randall1> ikonia: it just says upon boot up after enabling hardware drivers that the Nvidia kernal failed to initialize
[17:02] <Al2O3> ikonia: ok, thanks anyway for your help.
[17:02] <Omar87> Guys, don't you think that Ubuntu should NOT come with mono-based applications such as Tomboy notes and Rhythmbox pre-installed?
[17:02] <Flannel> Omar87: This is a support channel, that discussion belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[17:02] <n8tuser> NicEXE -> what is your goal? execute the 1st command and no matter execute the 2nd ?
[17:02] <ikonia> Randall1: what video card do you have ?
[17:02] <Al2O3> <-- returns the crappy world of Windows, Bill gets my money yet again, and time :(
[17:02] <NicEXE> n8user: I want the second command to be executed even if the first is still running
[17:03] <Randall1> ikonia: A geforce4: MX 420
[17:03] <ubuntu> thanks :) LjL
[17:03] <n8tuser> NicEXE -> just use ;  to separate the commands
[17:03] <ikonia> Al2O3: then go instead of telling us abou tit
[17:03] <trooper2008> hello i need to remove some files from terminal who can help me do it with pastebin?
[17:03] <Al2O3> ikonia: will do, thanks again.
[17:03] <ikonia> Randall1: some of the support for the older cards was dropped form the later nvidia drivers, have you checked if that is supported ?
[17:04] <Al2O3> ikonia: you rock and rule!
[17:04] <sofiankrt> it used to work all right on Hardy, so I guess it might be a bug
[17:04] <trooper2008> !pastebin
[17:04] <sofiankrt> any ideas? I need zenity to work in the foreground
[17:04] <TuxMan1> is it possible to forward the ouput of : ls -l | grep ^-           somehow to cp?
[17:04] <Randall1> ikonia: i don't think it is actually? so will it just not work at all. What would you recommend as a new card
[17:04] <TuxMan1> I would like to copy all the files that are listed from that to a specific dir
[17:04] <trooper2008> i have pastebin of the files i need to autoremove from terminal who can help me do it?
[17:04] <ikonia> TuxMan1: cp 1ls -la | grep`
[17:04] <telaviv> how do i identify myself?
[17:04] <ikonia> TuxMan1: sorry, cp `ls la | grep `
[17:05] <trooper2008> can you help ikonia
[17:05] <trooper2008> ?
[17:05] <ikonia> trooper2008: auto rmeove?
[17:05] <telaviv> or register myself with nickserve
[17:05] <TuxMan1> so the expression is is ' '?
[17:05] <trooper2008> http://paste.ubuntu.com/77146/ this ikonia
[17:05] <TuxMan1> ooops ` `
[17:05] <Pici> !register | telaviv
[17:05] <ikonia> telaviv: ask in freeenode
[17:05] <Turl> hi, what's the package name for gtkbuilder?
[17:05] <ag3r> spanish?
[17:05] <LjL> !es | ag3r
[17:05] <NicEXE> n8user: only the first command is executed even with ';'
[17:05] <trooper2008> but im not familiar with terminal commands ikonia
[17:06] <ikonia> trooper2008: sudo apt-get autoremove
[17:06] <droopsta915> my computer is running super slow when I surf the net. I'm downloading ubuntu twaek, can I use this to improve speed?
[17:06] <Dillizar> !mk
[17:06] <LargePrime> toldyoutoo Can I have a moment
[17:06] <Dillizar> !mkd
[17:06] <Turl> !gtkbuilder
[17:06] <Pici> NicEXE: If you want to execute more than  one command in a launcher you need to make a shell script and use that instead.
[17:06] <LjL> !fishing
[17:07] <trooper2008> !pastebin
[17:07] <TuxMan1> I tried this , but it doesnt work : cp `ls -l | grep ^-` Stuff/
[17:07] <TuxMan1> copy to Stuff dir
[17:07] <NicEXE> Pici: how to create a shell script?
[17:07] <Dillizar> !xubuntu
[17:07] <trooper2008> http://paste.ubuntu.com/77147/ thanx ikonia  are they gone?
[17:07] <ikonia> droopsta915: I would advise against ubuntu tweak
[17:07] <Pici> NicEXE: create a text file and put your commands in and then chmod +x it
[17:07] <dury> ]{53: are you available?
[17:08] <ikonia> trooper2008: yes
[17:08] <sofiankrt> how would you launch a graphical app in the foreground?
[17:08] <]{53> dury: sure.
[17:08] <justizin1> sofiankrt: some-gui-app 2>&1 >/dev/null &
[17:09] <Turl> noone knows the gtkbuilder's package name?
[17:09] <droopsta915> ikonia: what can I do to improve speed? I don't know why its so slow, it was fine yesterday.
[17:09] <olivier73> hola desde barcelona
[17:09] <LargePrime> How can I format a HardDrive with UbuntU in one computer, so that I may put it in my old pentium laptop and have it be UbuntU ified?
[17:09] <TuxMan1> any idea why this isnt working (I want to copy the ouput of the commands in ` ` to Stuff dir) : cp `ls -l | grep ^-` Stuff/
[17:09] <droopsta915> hola desde colorado
[17:10] <Turl> TuxMan1, try find instead of ls
[17:10] <dury> ]{53: this acidrip can do the video smaller?
[17:10] <sofiankrt> justizin1's command doesn't work
[17:10] <sofiankrt> I'm trying to run zenity in the foreground
[17:10] <olivier73> hola
[17:10] <olivier73> alguien habla español
[17:10] <]{53> dury: as in resolution or as in size on disk?
[17:10] <Turl> !es
[17:10] <ikonia> droopsta915: look at whats changed, the most obvious would be your ISP
[17:10] <trooper2008> now i need to install this drivers for my webcam ikonia  http://www.rastageeks.org/ov51x-jpeg/index.php/Ov51xJpegHackedInstall can you help?
[17:11] <droopsta915> i have the same isp
[17:11] <dury> ]{53: I mean as in size... cause to publish in a site
[17:11] <ikonia> droopsta915: yes but they may be performing bad
[17:11] <ikonia> droopsta915: have a problem, be busy, etc etc
[17:11] <gumuz> i cant seem to find out how to disable 'dead keys', any ideas?
[17:11] <Shay26m> Hello , i installed vsftpd server on my ubuntu , but i dont understand how i can set up users & passwords ?
[17:11] <Pretto> is there a way to create a keyboard shortcut  to start an application?
[17:11] <Turl> gumuz, go to the keyboard setup and choose a "no dead keys" layout
[17:11] <dury> ]{53: as in size for website
[17:11] <JmCourir> what is the bot that says what is the best software ?
[17:12] <ikonia> !vsftpd | Shay26m
[17:12] <trooper2008> are you able to follow me with the install ikonia ?
[17:12] <Turl>  Shay26m: create new users on the system
[17:12] <ikonia> Shay26m: there is documents on it
[17:12] <ikonia> trooper2008: what install ?
[17:12] <droopsta915> ikonia: you're saying it might get better on its own if it is the isp?
[17:12] <LjL> JmCourir: BestBot in #ubuntu-bots
[17:12] <ikonia> droopsta915: thats a good possability
[17:12] <trooper2008> i need a favour you have 8.10 and webcam couse i can't get my cam to work on mebeam
[17:12] <trooper2008> can you see if it works?
[17:12] <JmCourir> thanks
[17:12] <ikonia> droopsta915: if nothing else has changed and it's going slow - that is an obvious strong candidate
[17:12] <trooper2008> mebeam site
[17:12] <bhasu_> configuration file for vsftp ll be /etc/vsftpd.conf
[17:12] <Crusher> LjL:why u guys don't support ultimate??? any site expressing such feelings???
[17:12] <yggwork> can somone help me, im trying to start x11vnc from a remote ssh connection on my computer but i keep getting a mit bad cookie problem, works fine when im at the computer and run it from a terminal.
[17:12] <ikonia> trooper2008: I ave no idea
[17:13] <]{53> dury: yes, it will size it down for you.
[17:13] <trooper2008> http://www.rastageeks.org/ov51x-jpeg/index.php/Ov51xJpegHackedInstall this are the drivers i need for my cam ikonia
[17:13] <ikonia> Crusher: you'v ejust been told it's not support
[17:13] <trooper2008> can you help me install them?
[17:13] <bhasu_> but user ll be wat ever present in the server system ..
[17:13] <LjL> Crusher: err, why would we? this channel is called #ubuntu. we support Ubuntu.
[17:13] <ikonia> Crusher: it is nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:13] <Shay26m> ikonia: where i can find the documents ?
[17:13] <droopsta915> ikonia: does ubuntu have any backup software that is good?
[17:13] <NoiseEee> is there any reason not to use Ubuntu Server Edition in production, ie: instead of RedHat?
[17:13] <LjL> Crusher: also, that is offtopic for here. ask in #ubuntu-ops if you have to
[17:13] <ikonia> Shay26m: /usr/share/docs
[17:13] <ikonia> NoiseEee: personal choice
[17:13] <ikonia> Shay26m: there are also guides on https://help.ubuntu.com
[17:13] <dury> ]{53: if I make smaller... I mean quite smaller it will be greal
[17:14] <]{53> dury: greal?
[17:14] <dury> ]{53: sorry great
[17:14] <gumuz> TurboBee: thanx, i tried that before, but it seems the test-input-box in the dialog doesnt function, because my other app work now
[17:14] <MarZau> is there an ATI Ubuntu chat? I've got a problem with black flickering on a radeon HD 2600 intrepid ?
[17:14] <droopsta915> sorry, I'll ask everyone. What's a good backup software for ubuntu?
[17:15] <]{53> dury : the more you size it down the less quality it will be.
[17:15] <gumuz> Turl: thanx, i tried that before, but it seems the test-input-box in the dialog doesnt function, because my other app work now
[17:15] <LargePrime> ]{53 have you a suggestion as to who I should ask about my install?
[17:16] <dury> ]{53: I know... never mind it's to publish in a website
[17:16] <hmw_> i would like to install the compiz of intrepid in my hardy. how can i do this?
[17:16] <]{53> LargePrime: Try asking again here.
[17:16] <android6011> im using 9.04 and it detects my sound card but there is no sound from speakers. how can i check whats wrong
[17:16] <LargePrime> ok, thanks
[17:16] <Mousse> Hello all
[17:16] <gorski> how to apply streamtuner-0.99.99-live365.diff patch to streamreaper, help, appreciated!
[17:16] <Flannel> android6011: you sure you're using 9.04?
[17:16] <android6011> Flannel yes
[17:16] <]{53> dury: how big are the vob files?
[17:16] <android6011> of mythbuntu
[17:16] <LargePrime> How can I format a HardDrive with UbuntU in one computer, so that I may put it in my old pentium laptop and have it be UbuntU ified?
[17:17] <Flannel> android6011: Then support is in #ubuntu+1
[17:17] <osxdude|laptop> gorski, use the patch command.
[17:17] <TuxMan1> how do I tell cp to copy only files , and not directories/
[17:17] <TuxMan1> ?
[17:17] <hmw_> LargePrime you could just install it and hope, that you dont run into some specific problem. there is a good chance, that it will work
[17:17] <eighty4> I've managed to install transmission from source or something (cant actually remember how) and now I cant get it uninstalled. Any ideas?
[17:17] <DRebellion> TuxMan1, it won't copy directories unless you specify the --recursive option
[17:17] <mrrcp> how do i make the icons on my gnome desktop smaller?
[17:18] <gorski>  osxdude|laptop: i used patch -p1 < streamtuner-0.99.99-live365.diff but i do not know to wich file
[17:18] <DRebellion> eighty4, download the same source tarball again. if you're lucky, you can run `sudo make uninstall'. if not, you will have to go through the `Makefile' looking for the files it installed, and manually remove them.
[17:18] <osxdude|laptop> oh.
[17:18] <TuxMan1> DRebellion : I did : cp *.* Dest/    and it also copied the contents of a directory which has GGG.GGG
[17:18] <osxdude|laptop> gorski, how did you install it?
[17:18] <berhane_zion> how do i set permissions for a file ? it says im not the owner, cause im logged in as user
[17:18] <gorski> synaptic
[17:19] <LargePrime> hmw_ the problem is that the install writes to the current computers Boot drive, not the drive I want to move into the new computer
[17:19] <hmw_> mrrcp: try the settings of your nautilus (file browser) - there are settings for zoom levels, it applies also to the desktop
[17:19] <LjL> berhane_zion: is that file in your home directory?
[17:19] <ikonia> berhane_zion: use sudo
[17:19] <DRebellion> TuxMan1, hmm... i'm not sure what happened there
[17:19] <mrrcp> wheres that
[17:19] <berhane_zion> i can login as root with the sudo su command, but then when i open filebrowser it still says im not the owner
[17:19] <hmw_> LargePrime you will need to run grub manually and install the boot loader to the correct disk
[17:19] <berhane_zion> so i figure i have to use commands to change permissions as root
[17:19] <berhane_zion> but how ?
[17:19] <ikonia> berhane_zion: gksudo to use graphical applications
[17:19] <osxdude|laptop> gorski, you should just be able to upgrade it.
[17:19] <DRebellion> berhane_zion, look up the `chown' command
[17:20] <LjL> berhane_zion: "sudo su" (and, by the way, you really should use "sudo -i" instead) only makes you root in *that* terminal that you're using
[17:20] <hmw_> LargePrime you might also have to adjust /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:20] <berhane_zion> oh
[17:20] <LjL> berhane_zion: but i'll ask again - why do you want to change a file's permissions? is that file in your home directory?
[17:20] <gorski>  osxdude|laptop: synaptic
[17:20] <eighty4> DRebellion: thanks :) I've been trying to uninstall it for an hour or so. Trying from a different tarball. But 3 secs after I asked my question I found the old tarball and could remove it. I always get it to work 3 secs after i ask
[17:20] <LargePrime> hmw_ great.  is there a manual or something?
[17:20] <neozen> hey all... having trouble getting a usb2serial adapter to show up on intrepid when I'm pretty sure it worked on hardy.
[17:20] <yggwork> can somone help me, im trying to start x11vnc from a remote ssh connection on my computer but i keep getting a mit bad cookie problem, works fine when im at the computer and run it from a terminal.
[17:20] <osxdude|laptop> gorski, you should just be able to upgrade it in synaptic
[17:20] <neozen> I believe its pl2303 based
[17:20] <hmw_> LargePrime (you can change the boot settings manually in the boot screen, ifthe drive settings dont fit)
[17:20] <hmw_> LargePrime: i am sure there is.
[17:21] <zohreh> hello, is there any one who familier with xlib programming?
[17:21] <berhane_zion> ljl, no it's not in my home folder, it's in /www/var/ i want a friend to be able to upload a file there via ftp
[17:21] <LjL> !offtopic | zohreh
[17:21] <gorski> i reinstalled, but still nothing
[17:21] <DRebellion> eighty4, yeah, putting your thoughts into words helps you think about them; )
[17:21] <gorski> nevermind
[17:21] <LargePrime> I go ask google, see what I find, and (probably) come back
[17:21] <hmw_> LargePrime its not a very easy task. be prepared for quite a journey.
[17:21] <LjL> berhane_zion: sudo chmod a+rw /www/var/subdirectoryname will give everyone read and write permission on that subdirectory
[17:22] <LjL> berhane_zion: it's not necessarily a very good idea.
[17:22] <eighty4> DRebellion: so true. Thanks again :P
[17:22] <LargePrime> I have a lunch in backpack, and a compass
[17:22] <berhane_zion> LjL, "sudo -i" will make me root not only in the terminal im using, but in all other windows as well ?
[17:22] <dury> ]{53: great, great, great.... my friend...
[17:22] <occy> Hey again, sorry I think I disconnected when I asked last time...
[17:22] <Flannel> berhane_zion: a better way to do it is to add them to the www-data group, then give the www-data group write permissions
[17:22] <LjL> berhane_zion: no. it will make you only in the terminal you're using. it would be absurd and dangerous to be root everywhere.
[17:22] <MarZau> is ubuntu like windows? in that if you install it on another pc then move the drive to a new pc it wont automatically detect the changed hardware?
[17:22] <LjL> !root > berhane_zion    (berhane_zion, see the private message from ubottu)
[17:22] <occy> I have a DWL-AG132 USB wireless card...  any way to get this working with Ubuntu?
[17:22] <LjL> MarZau: no, it will mostly detect it
[17:22] <]{53> dury: they are really big?
[17:23] <berhane_zion> !root
[17:23] <dury> ]{53: is doing it pretty good
[17:23] <]{53> dury: do wha?
[17:23] <LargePrime> hmw_ are there any UbuntU specific settings I should know about (to give GRUB)?
[17:23] <dury> ]{53: the thing now is how to make smaller
[17:24] <dury> ]{53: acidrip
[17:24] <occy> or are USB wireless adapters not usable under Linux?
[17:24] <]{53> dury: what is the duration of the video?
[17:24] <ravennium> iiris01
[17:24] <hmw_> LargePrime none ubuntu specific. you might have to adjust the kernel parameter root=...
[17:24] <gobbo> buona sera+
[17:24] <ravennium> shit, wrong channel :D
[17:24] <temppy> occy: there is always ndiswrapper
[17:24] <dury> ]{53: hang on
[17:24] <dury> ]{53: wait, please
[17:24] <MarZau> WG111T, a few USBs but you can use NDISwrapper to get around
[17:25] <occy> temppy: hmm is there a howto on that?  not sure what that is or how to use it.
[17:25] <LjL> !it | gobbo
[17:25] <neozen> hi all... me again.... still waiting for a reply on the pl2303 driver problem
[17:25] <occy> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 2001:3a01 D-Link Corp. [hex] DWL-AG132 (no firmware)
[17:25] <occy> that's what lsusb shows
[17:25] <neozen> could post a relevant section from kern.log
[17:26] <temppy> !wireless > occy I think there are directions in this factoid for ndiswrapper
[17:26] <MarZau> any one here got an ATI HD series with overlay problems? blanking?
[17:26] <hmw_> LargePrime this root=... will not be neccesary, if the parameter is an UUID numner, only if it refers to /dev/hdsomething
[17:26] <dury> ]{53: the duration of the video is 16:04
[17:26] <LargePrime> hmw_ Can I assume since I am installing to an old pentuim I should use GRUB legacy
[17:26] <hmw_> LargePrime no idea
[17:27] <berhane_zion> LjL, thx for that link, i'll go read and come back later
[17:27] <]{53> dury: that will fit on youtube just fine. You can then embed the video on your site.
[17:28] <berhane_zion> flannel, how do i add them to group ?
[17:28] <]{53> dury: you need to check on youtube to see what fomats it supports. Another good one is vimeo.
[17:28] <LargePrime> hmw_ Ha there is a GRUB channel here
[17:29] <Miki2> a night its am or pm:D?û
[17:29] <dury> ]{53: the new .avi file size now is 340.8 MB before was 945.5 MB
[17:30] <]{53> dury: that will take a looooooooooong time to upload. Try compressing it further.
[17:31] <dury> ]{53: from the original size or from the .avi file?
[17:32] <benoka> !info Camorama
[17:32] <osxdude|laptop> !info camorama
[17:32] <osxdude|laptop> case sensitive, benoka
[17:32] <TuxMan1> how to catch with grep files which ends with txt or com? , tried : ls -l | grep *.txt | com
[17:32] <TuxMan1> not working
[17:32] <Ttech> how do I get Lorex PCI Card and Security Cameras working on Linux + ZoneMinder? Anyone have any luck or advise to get them to work?
[17:32] <andymd> now
[17:33] <]{53> dury: it will be easier to do it from the avi file.
[17:33] <dantepolo> ciao
[17:33] <ikonia> TuxMan1: grep .txt
[17:33] <TuxMan1> this is only txxt
[17:33] <TuxMan1> txt
[17:33] <ikonia> TuxMan1: grep .txt
[17:33] <dury> ]{53: ok... right!
[17:34] <andymd> how to setup my password?
[17:34] <ikonia> andymd: you set it up at install time
[17:34] <Ubuntu__> hello.
[17:35] <andymd> you mean,I have had my password now?
[17:35] <ikonia> andymd: did you set on eup at install time
[17:35] <benoka> osxdude|laptop, thank you!
[17:36] <osxdude|laptop> You are welcome, benoka
[17:36] <andymd> yes,
[17:36] <ikonia> andymd: so you know your password then
[17:36] <andymd> thx.
[17:36] <Windows_> Well Ubuntu we meet again!
[17:36] <ikonia> Windows_: please keep in mind this is a support channel
[17:36] <tieTYT> i'm trying to install linux on my thinkpad sl500 but I'm having problems.  One of them is related to this but I don't understand what the article is saying.  Could someone help me out? http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/pipermail/linux-thinkpad/2008-October/044992.html
[17:36] <AzizLight> hi everybody
[17:36] <benoka> osxdude|laptop, i installed cheese, but still cannot see image on my webcam although it recognizes it as a device, works well on win
[17:36] <andymd> how could I join #ubuntu-cn?
[17:37] <AzizLight> is there a way to enable auto-com[
[17:37] <cobra_> #ubuntu.it
[17:37] <snuitje> if windows wants to run ubuntu thats fine right?
[17:37] <]{53> Hey AzizLight
[17:37] <ikonia> andymd: "/join #ubuntu-cn"
[17:37] <ikonia> snuitje: of course
[17:37] <osxdude|laptop> benoka, you using gscpa?
[17:37] <andymd> thank you very much
[17:37] <MarZau> ahh no one can take a joke ;)
[17:37] <]{53> snuitje: What are you trying to do?
[17:37] <benoka> osxdude|laptop, what is gscpa?
[17:37] <snuitje> ]{53: nuffin'
[17:37] <osxdude|laptop> benoka, it's a webcam driver for Linux.
[17:37] <osxdude|laptop> !gscpa
[17:38] <benoka> osxdude|laptop, i don't know, how can I check?
[17:38] <dury> ]{53: which are the parameters to compress it more?
[17:38] <osxdude|laptop> I might have the letter order wrong, hold on
[17:38] <benoka> osxdude|laptop :)
[17:38] <dury> ]{53: geeeezzz I'm doing my best.... :)
[17:39] <AzizLight> is there a way to enable auto-completion for the sudo apt (apt-cache search and apt-get install mainly) commands?
[17:39] <osxdude|laptop> !gspca
[17:39] <osxdude|laptop> !info gspca
[17:39] <osxdude|laptop> no!
[17:39] <]{53> dury: we need another proggie for that. I am looking now...
[17:39] <Pici> !fishing | osxdude|laptop
[17:39] <thegeek> i have a shell script that is always saying what it shout twice
[17:39] <LargePrime> Is there a UbuntU ISO for older machines?
[17:39] <osxdude|laptop> Sorry, Pici.
[17:39] <ikonia> LargePrime: not really, you can use lower spec dekstops like xfce on xubuntu
[17:39] <dury> ]{53: right I see
[17:39] <snuitje> there's also ubuntu lite
[17:40] <osxdude|laptop> benoka: http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html'
[17:40] <snuitje> which is more suitable for old pc's then xubuntu imho
[17:40] <snuitje> or do a commandline install
[17:40] <LargePrime> ikonia it is for a pentium (1)
[17:40] <]{53> dury: Try Avidemux.
[17:40] <ikonia> LargePrime: your going to struggle to do that
[17:40] <ikonia> LargePrime: that cpu is too slow for a 2.6 kernel in reality
[17:40] <dury> ]{53: right
[17:40] <snuitje> linux will run fine
[17:40] <cxo> How do i get openoffice-3 on 8.04?
[17:41] <snuitje> you just need a really tiny userland
[17:41] <ikonia> snuitje: no it won't
[17:41] <ikonia> LargePrime: how much ram do you have
[17:41] <osxdude|laptop> cxo, get it from openoffice.org
[17:41] <snuitje> linux kernel has gotten faster, not slower over time
[17:41] <cxo> ok
[17:41] <ikonia> snuitje: the minimum requirements have increased for the 2.6 kernel
[17:41] <benoka> osxdude|laptop, ERREUR 404 - Document non trouvé :(
[17:41] <dury> ]{53: so sudo apt-get install that avidemix or whatever.... right?
[17:41] <LargePrime> not much.  give me second to check, i think 128 megs?
[17:41] <snuitje> like, from 386 to 486 you mean?
[17:41] <osxdude|laptop> benoka http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html sorry, I added a mark at the end on accident :P
[17:41] <ikonia> LargePrime: your actually ok on ram you could get away with the ram, but your cpu will let you down
[17:42] <innovate2000> "failed to join domain: failed to get DC for domain BLAH.LOCAL" issue in Intrepid - anyone else solve this?  "net ads lookup dc" and "net ads info" work fine. see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6252005 (entry by DouglasK on pg 18)
[17:42] <thegeek> the script is a menu script that launches games but when i exit the script the script echos the menu again how can i fix this
[17:42] <graabein> how do i reconfigure x so i get higher resolution?
[17:42] <LargePrime> it might only be 64 or 32.  Should i check
[17:42] <ikonia> snuitje: no, the minimum kit (ram mostaly) to run a 2.6 kernel has increased, also needs a faster cpu to run effectivly
[17:42] <ikonia> LargePrime: to be honest, your not going to be able to use that machines a a usable desktop
[17:43] <]{53> dury: "sudo apt-get install avidemux"
[17:43] <snuitje> linux runs fine on a lot of embedded devices, they just don't have to do a lot, like, they dont have to run gnome or even plain X
[17:43] <dury> ]{53: I did that install success :)
[17:43] <benoka> osxdude|laptop: mine is - Trust 228 0x06d6 0x0031 610 LCD Powerc@m Zoom   spca533a   Yes Jpeg spca5xx/LE ***
[17:43] <ikonia> snuitje they ar different arch
[17:43] <thegeek> please help
[17:43] <]{53> dury: it should be right next to AcidRip now.
[17:44] <ikonia> thegeek: what do you need
[17:44] <benoka> osxdude|laptop: what do I need to install and how?
[17:44] <thegeek> check my last post
[17:44] <snuitje> yes but most of the time pretty slow compared to an average pc
[17:44] <ikonia> thegeek: I'm asking you what you need
[17:44] <benoka> osxdude|laptop: i should look for the driver name in synaptic?
[17:44] <dury> ]{53: ok .... let's see
[17:44] <osxdude|laptop> benoka, I don't know if the driver is there, but I would look.
[17:44] <thegeek> to get a shell script not to say something twice
[17:44] <ikonia> thegeek: this is not a shell scripting support channel
[17:45] <benoka> osxdude|laptop: how do I know which driver is already installed?
[17:45] <thegeek> can you tell me one
[17:45] <ikonia> thegeek: there are many on freenode depending on what shell you want to use
[17:45] <dury> ]{53: listed as Avidemux (GTK +) ... is that right?
[17:45] <osxdude|laptop> benoka, if it shows in synaptic.
[17:45] <LargePrime> I just want it to run.  It was a 98 machine
[17:45] <thegeek> i use bash
[17:45] <ikonia> LargePrime: it won't be a usable desktop
[17:45] <ikonia> thegeek: #bash
[17:45] <]{53> dury: dunno - that sounds right - I don't have it installed currently.
[17:45] <thegeek> and by the way can i make my own channel on freenode
[17:46] <ikonia> thegeek: that is nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:46] <LargePrime> 128 meg  It wont run a browser?
[17:46] <ikonia> thegeek: please search the web or ask in a more appropriate cannel
[17:46] <brett_h> does anyone know why a bunch of packages I installed with build-deps are marked for autoremove immediately after I installed them?  seems like I told the system I wanted them?
[17:46] <thegeek> where can i ask that
[17:46] <ikonia> LargePrime: your cpu is slow to process a desktop and your lacking ram
[17:46] <]{53> dury: it has been longer than 5 mins. :p
[17:46] <ikonia> thegeek: #ubuntu is not a direcotry service for you, please visit the freenode website
[17:46] <thegeek> witch is
[17:46] <ikonia> thegeek: we are not a directory service.
[17:47] <LargePrime> It was running IE5.  worked ok.  linux wont do that?
[17:47] <thegeek> ok
[17:47] <dury> ]{53: I see... never mind... you doing it pretty good... I mean supporting me :)
[17:47] <Scunizi> !trash
[17:47] <ikonia> LargePrime:  it will not be a usable desktop with such a slow machine
[17:47] <dury> ]{53: really appreciate it :)
[17:47] <]{53> dury: I am joking. Did you get it to run?
[17:47] <dury> ]{53: yeah
[17:48] <LargePrime> ikonia I understand.  but will it run a browser.  That is all I want
[17:48] <benoka> osxdude|laptop: seems I have gspca-source in synaptic, let me try
[17:48] <ikonia> LargePrime: what part am I not making clear
[17:48] <ikonia> LargePrime: if will "boot" but it will not be usable
[17:48] <osxdude|laptop> benoka, install that
[17:48] <]{53> dury: you might have to play with the settings, because I am no expert myself!
[17:48] <snuitje> LargePrime: you'd be better off using it as a thin client for like, vnc
[17:48] <benoka> osxdude|laptop: on its way...
[17:48] <ikonia> snuitje: how can he do that if it's not enough grunt to run a desktop
[17:48] <InfectedWithDrew> I'm having trouble compiling wesnoth-1.4.6 from source.  Can anyone help me?  I'm reading instructions off of http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/WesnothBinariesLinux#Compiling_2
[17:49] <osxdude|laptop> I'm gotta go...
[17:49] <snuitje> ikonia: you dont need a full blown desktop to run a vnc client
[17:49] <osxdude|laptop> so...yea.
[17:49] <snuitje> vnc clients can even be run in framebuffer mode
[17:49] <isploit> 
[17:49] <droopsta915> Im using APTonCD, how can I get the ubuntu restricted extras file
[17:49] <LargePrime> it worked when it was a windows machine?
[17:49] <ikonia> LargePrime: use windows then
[17:49] <isploit> setting up port knocking with knockd and iptables, if iptables blocks 'all' incoming, knockd only notices the first 'knock'(trigger) package,but without firewall restrictions it receives all. only the first package being noticed indicates that it should work with all packages dropped, but is does not, any ideas?
[17:49] <LargePrime> linux is heavier?
[17:49] <ikonia> LargePrime: you don't seem to be listening
[17:49] <egoflux> anyone know of a tag editor that can change the title of songs from CAPS to non-CAPS?
[17:49] <TheMG> on the ubuntu website, i specifically chose the 32 bit version, and yet it still tells me im on the 64
[17:49] <ikonia> LargePrime: your using a modern distro - and comparing it against a very old windows Os
[17:49] <ikonia> TheMG: show me unam e-a
[17:50] <ikonia> TheMG: uname -a sorry
[17:50] <NoiseEee> is there any reason not to use Ubuntu Server Edition in production, ie: instead of RedHat?
[17:50] <LargePrime> ikonia I am listening.  you will notice I am responding to your statements with questions.
[17:50] <tieTYT> why aren't there ideapad drivers for linux?
[17:50] <tieTYT> yet there are thinkpad ones
[17:50] <LargePrime> ok that makes sense
[17:50] <ikonia> LargePrime: but how much more can I say "your machien is too old to run a modern distro in a usable manner"
[17:50] <snuitje> NoiseEee: unless you have a contrect with rh, there isn't
[17:50] <LargePrime> is there a lighter distro?
[17:50] <TheMG> Linux ubuntu 2.6.27-7-generic #1 SMP Fri Oct 24 06:40:41 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:50] <ikonia> TheMG: yup 64bit
[17:50] <InfectedWithDrew> LargePrime, try Arch Linux.
[17:50] <TheMG> ikonia: i specifically chose 32!
[17:50] <ikonia> LargePrime: you may want to ask that in ##linux
[17:51] <ikonia> TheMG: must have made a mistake
[17:51] <TheMG> me?
[17:51] <LargePrime> thanks I will ask there
[17:51] <NoiseEee> snuitje: thanks... everything has gone really smooth
[17:51] <snuitje> LargePrime: lnx-bbc is pretty light, also slackware might work
[17:52] <LargePrime> snuitje I got nothing so give me your best guess
[17:52] <TheMG> ikonia: is there a way i can check whether the ubuntu cd i just created is the 64 bit?
[17:52] <ikonia> LargePrime: please take it ##linux
[17:52] <snuitje> LargePrime: depends on how much time you have
[17:52] <giuseppe_> Hi, my ubuntu 8.04 is not able to mount automatically the cdrom
[17:52] <ikonia> TheMG: it is - your running 64bit, so it must be a 64bit cd
[17:52] <giuseppe_> can you help me?
[17:52] <demon_> !compiz
[17:52] <erUSUL> !ask | giuseppe_
[17:52] <shoot^> hey guys, having real issues with ubuntu server. It arbitrarily disconnects from the wireless, but doesn't reconnect. Uses Static IP over DHCP. Runs headless, without a GUI. Anyone able to help?
[17:52] <TheMG> ikonia: i also had a 64 bit cd, and 64 bit version installed before today
[17:53] <InfectedWithDrew> Repeating my problem.  Having trouble compiling wesnoth-1.4.6 from source, getting errors when I try to configure it to install over 1.4.5.  Getting instructions from here: http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/WesnothBinariesLinux#Compiling_2
[17:53] <giuseppe_> ubottu: you are right... but can you help me?
[17:53] <ikonia> TheMG: ok ?
[17:53] <giuseppe_> Hi, my ubuntu 8.04 is not able to mount automatically the cdrom. Can you help me?
[17:54] <ikonia> InfectedWithDrew: there is support information on that wiki page
[17:54] <TheMG> ikonia: i may have installed from that by mistake, or somehow not uninstalled the previous version
[17:54] <erUSUL> InfectedWithDrew: http://www.getdeb.net/app/The+Battle+for+Wesnoth
[17:54] <TheMG> ikonia: is there a way i can check for definite which version is on the cd
[17:54] <benoka> osxdude|laptop: it's working, man, thank you very much!!!
[17:54] <ikonia> InfectedWithDrew: have you contacted the software maintainers ?
[17:54] <ikonia> TheMG: what is the name of the iso - or boot it and type "uanme -a" in a aterminal
[17:54] <ikonia> TheMG: uname -a sorry agiain
[17:54] <InfectedWithDrew> Thank you erUSUL.
[17:54] <InfectedWithDrew> Thank you ikonia for your effort.
[17:55] <osxdude|laptop> benoka really? cool!
[17:55] <TheMG> ikonia: ill try that, but ill need to boot into windows first
[17:55] <giuseppe_> can you help me about automount?
[17:55] <benoka> osxdude|laptop: do you happen to have knowledge about network card management in 8.10 (ubuntu intrepid)?
[17:55] <osxdude|laptop> benoka, in what ways?
[17:56] <InfectedWithDrew> erUSUL, the download page has multiple .debs for different packages, do I have to download them all separately?
[17:56] <jderrick> giuseppe_: dbad
[17:56] <erUSUL> InfectedWithDrew: yes afaics
[17:56] <InfectedWithDrew> erUSUL, ok.  Thank you.
[17:56] <giuseppe_> jderrick: sorry?
[17:56] <Resonator> Hi all
[17:56] <jderrick> giuseppe_: dbad = don't be a douchebag
[17:57] <InfectedWithDrew> erUSUL, there are no mirrors for it.
[17:57] <rsmith16384> can i get someone to test my port forwarding and pasv settings?
[17:57] <dury> ]{53: I'm lost with this Avidemux I don't know how to make it smaller
[17:57] <benoka> osxdude|laptop: i use an older laptop with older built-in wireless card (trust travelmate 800) and got a faster USB one from my provider, i got to install the USB one on ubuntu, it recognizes it now but cannot switch to it
[17:57] <ikonia> rsmith16384: try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:57] <benoka> osxdude|laptop: it keeps using the built-in one that is much slower
[17:58] <monadwr> Is there a workaround for sleep/suspend/hibernation ?
[17:58] <erUSUL> InfectedWithDrew: There are no mirrors availabe for this file at this time, *please* *try* *again* *later*
[17:58] <osxdude|laptop> benoka, usually in the laptop's BIOS you can completley disable the card. heck, you might be able to just open a panel on the bottom of your laptop and take the card out altogether.
[17:59] <InfectedWithDrew> erUSUL, fine.
[17:59] <gammy> What exactly is the correct way of restarting pulseaudio? Once it's down I cannot for the life of me get it back up. Restarting/reloading/anything from /etc/init.d/pulseaudio does not help getting the audio back.
[17:59] <snuitje> gammy: so you get no sound?
[17:59] <snuitje> gammy: did you get any error saying it's pulseaudio's fault?
[18:00] <jopp3> Hello , I running Ubuntu with Wubi . and i wonder if i can view my movies in my Xp Folders
[18:00] <kamg> anyone here able to help me with a vbox installation problem?
[18:00] <benoka> osxdude|laptop: i have a button to enable or disable wireless, but that then takes away the whole connection (greys out my USB one too)
[18:01] <gammy> snuitje: Right. I get no error messages or warnings of any kind from any log. I just switched back from plain ALSA to pulseaudio use since a scraping noise in the left speakers came back after the switch(after upgrading to intrepid)
[18:01] <benoka> osxdude|laptop: the reason i didn't want to do it via bios is because I may need the built-in one
[18:01] <gammy> snuitje: Switching to pulseaido from the gnome sound selector killed the sound. So I restarted pulseadio manually and now it won't come back.
[18:01] <benoka> osxdude|laptop: for the case the USB stick would go down (it's a netgear wpn111, heard it can only stay online for 3 hours)
[18:01] <gammy> snuitje: pulseaudio even.
[18:02] <benoka> osxdude|laptop: plus sometimes i'm logging on to windows too where I may need the card - isn't there a way to enable/disable cards separately?
[18:02] <Sinnerman> how do i go about troubleshooting the reason why when i use ssh -X from my laptop the gtk themes don't apply properly, and when i do it from my desktop they do, when running gtk2 apps? im using the same theme on the desktop and laptop.
[18:03] <MarZau> I just did a clean install of intrepid and the alsa (realtek ALC268) problem disappeared, problem with crackling for me was SDLmixer
[18:04] <snuitje> gammy: wait a minute, im not getting any audio either atm -_-'''
[18:04] <ziggles> hey guys... anyone here noticed a bug when you close ur laptop and put it to sleep... upon waking it up SOMETIMES it does not require a login?
[18:05] <sudobash> Sinnerman what are you trying to do the -X?
[18:05] <gammy> snuitje: I just read in /etc/default/pulseaudio that the init script is not used. It instead uses per-session handling via GNOME.
[18:05] <gammy> snuitje: that explains why the script was acting so oddly I suppose.
[18:05] <Sinnerman> sudobash: using ssh -X to forward X, to run, say, xchat or pidgin on my laptop from the desktop into which im ssh-ing to.
[18:05] <Hargo> I have a question about cloning a drive from a smaller harddrive to a larger one - I'm moving from the 40gB drive I'm booting from, to a 120gB drive I'd -like- to boot from, and retain all of my settings, etc.
[18:05] <sudobash>      -x      Disables X11 forwarding
[18:05] <Neaai> Under gnome terminal what keystroke breaks you out of a cisco traceroute ? cisco is accessed via telnet from the terminal session.
[18:05] <Hargo> I've read about the dd command, and something about rsync, but...
[18:06] <Hargo> So far all I've been left with is confusion
[18:06] <sudobash> did you make sure it is -X
[18:06] <IdleOne> ziggles, report it to launchpad ad describe the symptoms and steps to reproduce. also make sure you give laptop info ( brand, model...)
[18:06] <joaopinto> Hargo, you can do a tar -czvf of your current system, then manually create the fs, and extract the archive
[18:06] <snuitje> gammy: are you running 8.10 or jaunty?
[18:06] <Sinnerman> sudobash: i need the X forwarding. what im wondering is why when i do it from the desktop, the gtk theme displays properly, and when i do it from the laptop, it does not.
[18:06] <gammy> snuitje: 8.10
[18:06] <Hargo> Joaopinto: Wha?
[18:06] <Sinnerman> sudobash: i did make sure.
[18:06] <gammy> snuitje: (Sorry but I don't know what jaunty is?)
[18:07] <chrisfromgreece3> hi
[18:07] <snuitje> gammy: the next version, to be released april next year
[18:07] <joaopinto> Hargo, you can create a tar archive of your current system, or use rsync (noted now that you mentioned it)
[18:07] <sahak> how can I mount an iso file without root privileges?
[18:07] <sudobash> check compression
[18:07] <Hargo> Alright. How do I do that, joaopinto? The rsync.
[18:07] <joaopinto> Hargo, just insert your new disk, create a filesystem on it, mount it, and rsync to it
[18:07] <gammy> snuitje: Ah. No. No no no no. Intrepid is so damn buggy I'm almost considering going back to CP/M. :D
[18:07] <Hargo> Right. I'm new at this. How?
[18:07] <gammy> snuitje: Are you on the same configuration?
[18:08] <Sinnerman> sudobash: what's compression got to do with my gtk themes not displaying properly?
[18:08] <chrisfromgreece3> Sorry , i want to ask you about the well known ATI RADEON HD-2400 BUG. (overlays on 3d applications)
[18:08] <joaopinto> Hargo, first connect your new disk, and create the partition using the partition editor
[18:08] <snuitje> gammy: i have 8.10 on my laptop
[18:08] <Hargo> Joaopinto: Got it, done. Formatted as ext3.
[18:08] <snuitje> gammy: pulseaudio seems to be working neatly
[18:08] <benoka> osxdude|laptop: maybe I'm asking something impossible, but i indeed miss nic enabling/disabling GUI option in intrepid
[18:08] <joaopinto> Hargo, anyway, this kind of cloning requires some linux skills, you will need to reinstall/change your boot config
[18:08] <MarZau> I just fixed my ATI Radeon HD problem by turning off compiz and all effects
[18:09] <MarZau> ive got HD 2600
[18:09] <Hargo> Joaopinto: Alright, how do I do that?
[18:09] <gammy> snuitje: I'll see if mplayer will use pulseaudio if I force the audio output driver
[18:09] <joaopinto> Hargo, right now you should read "man rsync" :P
[18:09] <ziggles> IdleOne:  that's the thing... i dont know how to reproduce it so i was trying to see if anyone else had the same issue
[18:09] <gammy> snuitje: It fails.
[18:09] <joaopinto> you will need to --exclude sobre dirs from copy, like /proc and /sys
[18:09] <Hargo> Sobre?
[18:09] <IdleOne> ziggles, this has happened to you more then once?
[18:10] <snuitje> gammy: afaik, all applications that use alsa (at least when they try to use "default:") are sent through pulseaudio
[18:10] <joaopinto> Hargo, let me try to find an url with instructions
[18:10] <Sinnerman> sudobash: yes?
[18:10] <Hargo> Joaopinto: Thank you.
[18:10] <ziggles> IdleOne: i just noticed it yesterday so at this point i would say just once
[18:10] <bullgard4> I can select one of 7 states of my program Gajim at the bottom of the roster: Available, Free for Chat, Away, Not Available, Busy, Invisible, Abgemeldet. How are these 7 states defined?
[18:10] <snuitje> gammy: also, if i kill off pulseaudio it seems to restart itself when i open up rhythmbox and play some music
[18:10] <gammy> snuitje: That's not quite true. "default" just means hw:0 which is just dmix, alsa's mixer. It doesn't necessarily "go through" a sound daemon.
[18:10] <Hargo> Joaopinto: This is the one I've been looking at primarily. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/learn-the-dd-command-362506/
[18:10] <snuitje> gammy: that's not true either
[18:10] <monadwr> Is there a workaround to sleep/hibernation?
[18:11] <sudobash> what exactly is not working about your theme?
[18:11] <joaopinto> Hargo, dd is not recommended for disks with differente size
[18:11] <snuitje> gammy: on ubuntu default: should be a software mixing device
[18:11] <Hargo> I got that. :) That's why I was looking at the rsync command that was mentioned.
[18:12] <MarZau> monadwr try system > preferences > power management
[18:12] <allan> anyone successfully installed a jabber server on ubuntu 8 via aptitude? I tried jabberd2 but the dist. seems to be broken
[18:12] <gammy> snuitje: Uh, heh, ok. Try coding with libao or fmod or dumb or something and you'll notice that you will manually have to select how to handle output. It doesn't magically go from one to the other :)
[18:12] <Hammi_> Hey everyone. My computer isn't giving me any sound why is that?
[18:12] <]{53> allan: have you looked at openfire?
[18:12] <Hammi_> dont think so
[18:12] <Hammi_> what's openfire
[18:12] <gammy> snuitje: dmix IS a software mixer. It's alsa's mixer. pulseaudio can use it. What I'm doing right now though is forcing mplayer to use pulse. And it's failing.
[18:12] <joaopinto> Hargo, http://ithacafreesoftware.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=53 (however it uses a different method, you need to boot from a live cd for this approach)
[18:13] <gammy> snuitje: Something else that's interesting - I cannot run alsamixer, "ALSA lib pulse.c:272:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Access denied"
[18:13] <]{53> Hammi_: I was talking to allan.
[18:13] <snuitje> gammy: aha
[18:13] <Hargo> Joaopinto: Got a liveCD, so that's not a problem. Reading now, will get back to you.
[18:13] <snuitje> gammy: try ls -l /dev/mixer
[18:13] <Hammi_> where on a terminal?
[18:13] <monadwr> MarZau: And then
[18:13] <roshank>  i was having trouble with setting my mic on skype. in the volume control it is front mic, but in skype all i see are other options such as intel0, pulse and so on. i've been trying all the different options and not much luck yet. same goes for audacity. i also installed the pulse audio manager to see if i can do anything from there.  what i did find is that the capture device it is set to is wrong but i dont know how to chan
[18:13] <roshank> ge it.
[18:13] <joaopinto> Hargo, also http://majen.net/docs/linux-clone-howto.txt :)
[18:13] <gammy> snuitje: It looks fine, root:audio, nothing unusual
[18:14] <monadwr> MarZau: I don't think my gui frontend for power management configuration is the issue here, but resuming from suspended states.
[18:14] <snuitje> gammy: and you're in the audio group, right?
[18:14] <Hammi_> audio group
[18:14] <gammy> snuitje: Yes. I had audio working ten minutes ago before changing my pulseaudio settings :).
[18:14] <snuitje> gammy: yes, right :)
[18:14] <Hammi_> how do you change your audio settings?
[18:14] <Hammi_> my sounds kinda doesnt work out of nowhere
[18:14] <gammy> snuitje: Er I just noticed I have alsa support
[18:14] <snuitje> Hammi_: run gnome-sound-properties
[18:14] <allan> ]{53: nope, I’ll try that, thanks (I assume you are indirectly saying the apt-get package should be ok)
[18:15] <gammy> snuitje: (Using alsa as the audio driver works)
[18:15] <snuitje> gammy: well everything has to go through alsa eventually
[18:15] <Hammi_> ok thanx
[18:15] <chrisfromgreece3> Sorry , i want to ask you about the well known ATI RADEON HD-2400 BUG. (overlays on 3d applications)
[18:15] <gammy> snuitje: Indeed.
[18:15] <snuitje> gammy: hm ok, and it won't work with autodetect?
[18:15] <snuitje> gammy: that could be a bug
[18:15] <MarZau> monadwr, well I was just going to say you can turn off hibernation completely, but it could be a few causes, drivers, hardware, bios setting.
[18:15] <gammy> snuitje: Sure it will, mplayer defaults to it :)
[18:15] <]{53> allan: I don't think there is an apt-get package for that, I just know that it is a really good jabber server.
[18:15] <gammy> snuitje: That doesn't help me much with getting pulseaudio working though :)
[18:15] <snuitje> gammy: i mean autodetect in the pulseaudio settings
[18:16] <monadwr> MarZau: Did I say I wanted to disable hibernation?
[18:16] <snuitje> gammy: ah you mean mplayer -ao alsa
[18:16] <snuitje> gammy: i do that all the time
[18:16] <archa> hi everyone!
[18:16] <snuitje> gammy: do you have a .asoundrc?
[18:16] <kamg> I installed virtualbox-ose version 1.5.6-dfsg-6ubunut1, but when I run it and go to Help=>About, it says version 1.6.2.  Is this to be expected?
[18:16] <gammy> snuitje: No.
[18:16] <snuitje> gammy: is there anything else running that uses audio?
[18:17] <gammy> snuitje: No. rhythmbox crashed when pulseaudio died.
[18:17] <snuitje> gammy: lol
[18:17] <archa> how use 5.1 chanels on CMedia? everybody know?
[18:17] <Sinnerman> sudobash: thanks for the help. thing got fixed.
[18:17] <gammy> snuitje: Man this blows. How pathetic. Do I really have to bloody reboot to get my sound back?
[18:17] <Hargo> Joaopinto: How big should my swap partition be?
[18:18] <dvoid> in gnome, in keyboard shortcuts there are only "Switch to workspace 1" and "Switch to workspace 2" how do i add buttos to switch to workspace 3 and 4 etc?
[18:18] <archa> how use 5.1 chanels on CMedia? everybody know?
[18:18] <Hargo> Gammy: Rebooting isn't a biddeal.
[18:18] <gammy> snuitje: Or, rather, do I have to reboot to start pulseaudio? Haha
[18:18] <gammy> Hargo: Actually it is a *huge* deal because this machine is being used by more than one person at the same time.
[18:18] <joaopinto> Hargo, I usually do it 2xram
[18:18] <Hargo> Gammy: Right, I concede the point. *Tips his hat.*
[18:18] <Hargo> Joaopinto: Thanks.
[18:19] <gammy> Hargo: Hmmm what kind of hat.
[18:19] <kamg> anyone here know about ubuntu packaging?
[18:19] <snuitje> gammy: if you log out and then log in a virtual console, kill off any remaining processes in ps x, that could work
[18:20] <gammy> snuitje: Yeah that's true. How bloody stupid is that though.
[18:20]  * Mustinet ping me
[18:20] <Hargo> Gammy: Technically, not a hat that's tippable, but I got in the habit back when I was wearing a fedora regularly.
[18:20] <gammy> snuitje: Man stuff like this is so crappy :(
[18:20] <archa> hey
[18:20] <gammy> Hargo: :D
[18:20] <archa> why nobody answer on my question?(
[18:20] <joaopinto> kamg, for ubuntu packaging better ask on #ubuntu-motu
[18:21] <kamg> thanks
[18:21] <snuitje> gammy: if you run pulse-session manually
[18:21] <Vinceman> how do you set an icon for something in the menu?
[18:21] <snuitje> gammy: what does it say?
[18:21] <allan> ]{53: you’re right, no apt-get for openfire :(
[18:21] <gammy> snuitje: Oh hey look
[18:21] <gammy> snuitje: :D
[18:21] <phpstar> i upgraded my system to 8.10 and now no more sound in flash ??
[18:21] <gammy> snuitje: It started my session and it works ^____^
[18:22] <Hargo> New question. In gParted, is there any particular reason I'm seeing the Swap partition for my currently in-use boot drive "inside" an "extended" partition?
[18:22] <snuitje> gammy: kewl
[18:22] <]{53> allan: http://www.igniterealtime.org/downloads/index.jsp
[18:22] <gammy> snuitje: Awesome.
[18:22] <]{53> allan: they have a deb.
[18:22] <gammy> snuitje: Thank you very much. I must take a look at what it does!
[18:22] <snuitje> gammy: if only i thought of that before :D
[18:23] <innovate2000> "failed to join domain: failed to get DC for domain BLAH.LOCAL" issue in Intrepid - anyone else solve this?  "net ads lookup dc" and "net ads info" work fine. see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6252005 (entry by DouglasK on pg 18)
[18:23] <Hargo> /dev/sda1 is ext3, flagged as boot... /dev/sda2 is extended, and 1.41 gigs... /dev/sda5 (which appears as a subpartition of /dev/sda2) is linux-swap and also 1.41 gigs.
[18:23] <gammy> snuitje: Oh my that was basic.
[18:24] <LjL> Hargo: the reason is simply... that your partitions *are* set up that way.
[18:24] <MiceAreNiceVac> hello. i am installing ubuntu on my flash drive (bootable), and i was wondering if there is a way to have it also run natively in windows. i have seen tutorial for making a bootable usb or running ubuntu in windows, but not both. is this even possible?
[18:24] <gammy> snuitje: it just daemonizes the process. Huh. Odd that starting it in the foreground didn't work properlt?
[18:24] <gammy> snuitje: properly even.
[18:24] <gammy> snuitje: Well, thanks again for the help. Excellent. Brilliant. Fantastic :D
[18:24] <Hargo> LjL: Right. Now, since I'm trying to clone this drive to another (larger) drive, how do I set up the second drive so that I can do that?
[18:24] <snuitje> gammy: yw ^^
[18:24] <LjL> MiceAreNiceVac: err, isn't running Ubuntu *natively* but *in Windows* a contradiction in terms?
[18:25] <CaBlGuY> howdy..   anyone be able to help me fix a error 5 in Grub?  I just did a dual boot (Ubuntu and Mint) and that's what's coming up...  any help at all would be great!
[18:25] <LjL> Hargo: if you want to keep that setup, you create a primary partition (hda1), then an extended (hda2), and put only a logical swap partition (hda5) in the extended
[18:25] <MiceAreNiceVac> LjL, yeahe. i want to be able to boot from it sometimes, and also be able to run it as a program in windows at other times.
[18:25] <phpstar> i upgraded my system to 8.10 and now no more sound in flash ??
[18:25] <Hargo> LjL: How can I do that?
[18:26] <LjL> MiceAreNiceVac: the only way to run it "as a program in windows" is to use a virtual machine, such as VirtualBox or VMWare
[18:27] <bakarat> how do i make sure a certain device does not get auto-mounted?
[18:27] <MiceAreNiceVac> LjL: what about KQemu?
[18:27] <cwillu> LjL, qemu is a vm, yes
[18:27] <cwillu> MiceAreNiceVac, rather
[18:27] <snuitje> MiceAreNiceVac: you might be able to get away with adding your physical hard drive as a device in vmware, then run your ubuntu installation in the vm
[18:28] <LjL> MiceAreNiceVac: KQemu is just a launcher for Qemu... but yes (although it will be slower)
[18:28] <snuitje> MiceAreNiceVac: all sorts of weird things can happen though
[18:28] <LjL> Hargo, i can't try it in GParted on my system (or i'd have to delete a few partition to try), but it should be pretty intuitive...
[18:28] <Hargo> LjL: Alright. I'll try figuring it out. :)
[18:28] <MiceAreNiceVac> LjL: hmm, does windows need to have vmplayer/vmware running?
[18:28] <snuitje> LjL: kqemu is the kernel module for qemu right? makes vms faster by running the vm natively on the cpu
[18:29] <snuitje> ljl: at least parts of it
[18:29] <LjL> snuitje: there's two things called KQemu, one is the kernel module, yes, the other is merely a launcher
[18:29] <andyor23> hola
[18:29] <snuitje> ljl: allright =)
[18:29] <LjL> MiceAreNiceVac: yes, of course it does, how else would one run another system inside it?
[18:29] <andyor23> como se soluciona el problema de las rayitas
[18:30] <LjL> !es | andyor23
[18:30] <lesshaste> my usb wireless works in 2.6.24-16-generic but not 2.6.24-21-generic.  Any idea how I can tackle this?
[18:30] <Hargo> LjL: Wow, that was intuitive.
[18:30] <]{53> no spanish please, it gives me eptileptic seizures.
[18:30] <andyor23> ok
[18:30] <otuks> got a few faq's (i suppose) :)
[18:31] <MiceAreNiceVac> LjL: ok, can i put vm on the USB? kemu.exe can run from windows and be on th usb. the problem is that this is not bootable...
[18:31] <otuks> is there a way to get amarok to work with the jaunty jackalope, i tried to do a search query for this but didn't find any information
[18:31] <otuks> and sorry again for asking this
[18:31] <snuitje> MiceAreNiceVac: there's also a project called andlinux that lets you run a linux distro on windows with a special kernel that windows can run, but it's buggy
[18:31] <chemmmy> snuitje virtual box is also for windows but bbuggy
[18:32] <SSS495> hello all
[18:32] <MiceAreNiceVac> snuitje: buggy or not, i'm desperate for solutions
[18:32] <snuitje> hehe yeah virtualbox isn't great
[18:32] <chemmmy> works great in linux
[18:32] <marshall> has anybody else noticed that installing projectm from the interpid repos does absolutely nothing and doesnt work at all?
[18:32] <SSS495> anyone see me?
[18:32] <otuks> i'm using a weird irc client so i can't read the topic well and so on
[18:32] <slestak> nope
[18:32] <Odd-rationale> MiceAreNiceVac: you might also want to look into QEMU-puppy... a puppy linux distro that can boot from windows, linux, or native usb: http://www.erikveen.dds.nl/qemupuppy/
[18:32] <snuitje> MiceAreNiceVac: well you could give it a try, it can't hurt :)
[18:33] <snuitje> MiceAreNiceVac: www.andlinux.org, but if you want to discuss that, try #andlinux or so, this isn't the channel for it
[18:33] <OB1FoShoB> having a prob with gstreamer/totem audio/mp3s, it stutters in and out, in and out, in and out, vlc works fine of course, any ideas?
[18:33] <snuitje> Odd-rationale: kewl :)
[18:33] <azharcs> Hi, Can anyone tell me a good virtualization software for Ubuntu 8.04, I am currently thinking of installing VirtualBox, Can someone tell me, should i go with Xen or VMware or VirtualBox is good enough.
[18:33] <yao_ziyuan1> sometimes i play a game (warzone2100) in the middle and the computer is dead and i have to cold reboot.
[18:33] <Tylrdrdn> all - having problems with a for loop.  this works on another system I have...     for i in `/root/list-of-folders-in-current-dir.txt` ; do cp -avu $i "/mnt/external/081125BACKUP/" ; done.  I get error messages "/root/list-of-folders-in-current-dir.txt: line 1: ./folder1: is a directory"
[18:33] <snuitje> azharcs: what do you want to accomplish with the vm?
[18:34] <iam> sdf
[18:34] <yao_ziyuan1> i wonder if my ext3 file system runs into errors during the manual shutdown and no filesystem checks are performed,
[18:34] <MiceAreNiceVac> Odd-rationale: alright, i've got three new projects this thanks giving! thank you Ljl, Odd-rational, and snuitje and all else (bad short tem memory...)
[18:34] <LjL> MiceAreNiceVac: well, you could for instance make two partitions on the USB key, one with Ubuntu (bootable), and another FAT one with the Windows utilities
[18:34] <otuks> ok ok i'll do another search right now. /me is happy to notice this chan has an autojoin on some client so my flooding won't be that bad of a problem
[18:34] <azharcs> snuitje Just cross platform testing as well need to install softwares like Autocad and Photoshop CS3
[18:34] <iratiku> (Running dapper) - After having a development server for a long time, often I try things that don't work out ... I installed an LDAP server on my dapper box months ago... I look in the syslog and there is all this LDAP stuff... I also installed something called otrs  ...  There is also nfs and sambad that i do not use ... Is there are reference of what packages are commonly associated with general functions so i can remove them?
[18:34] <iratiku> I don't know all the packages that have to do with LDAP
[18:34] <yao_ziyuan1> would the system automatically fix filesystem errors when it encounters them?
[18:34] <CaBlGuY> anyone be able to help me? Grub error 5 ...
[18:35] <chemmmy> yao you can run fcsk yourself
[18:35] <MiceAreNiceVac> LjL: that sounds like a good solution. gotta run. thanks
[18:35] <snuitje> azharcs: those are very demanding apps, i can recommend using either qemu with kvm support of you have the right cpu, or vmware
[18:35] <ozzloy> my sound is not working.  how do i troubleshoot this?
[18:35] <chemmmy> fsck *
[18:35] <ozzloy> normally it works.  right now i can't play sound in amarok
[18:35] <snuitje> azharcs: xen _could_ work as well with kvm, it has been used to boot windows, but i guess qemu and vmware are easier :)
[18:36] <CaBlGuY> !error 5
[18:36] <ozzloy> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Failed to connect: Connection refused
[18:36] <otuks> ozzloy: what about other programs, tried them?
[18:36] <CaBlGuY> Hmmm
[18:36] <cwillu> yao_ziyuan1, anything less than a physical problem generally won't require a manual check.  Logging filesystems pretty much guarantee that the filesystem will remain consistent
[18:36] <azharcs> snuitje : Do you recommend not to install VirtualBox.
[18:36] <Tominator> Hi!
[18:37] <ozzloy> otuks: i just tried "System -> Preferences -> Sound"
[18:37] <ozzloy> otuks: and i got: audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Failed to connect: Connection refused
[18:37] <chemmmy> azharcs virtulbox works fine in linux, heard not so good in windows
[18:37] <snuitje> azharcs: well i don't really like virtualbox that much, vmware has more features and performs well
[18:37] <otuks> ozzloy: i here am having a problem with jaunty and amarok, am doesn't start at all but no problems with sound. i had a problem earlier with jaunty so that it got muted with the start up of the os
[18:37] <Scunizi> azharcs: I've used vmware server and vbox.. both are good.. both have their pluses and minuses.. vbox gets usb support only if you download it from their site and set it up correctly..
[18:37] <Tominator> I've got a problem with my IBM T23... It has got a S3 supersavage in it and I'm trying to get my VGA port working, but the gnometool for it doesn't see the monitor atteched to it...
[18:37] <cwillu> yao_ziyuan1, basically, there's a very brief check that occurs when the filesystem is mounted, consisting of checking every action that was logged but not completed.  It's a straightforward matter to undo those actions so that the filesystem remains consistent
[18:37] <CaBlGuY> ozzloy: do you have a little red X by your speaker on the task bar?
[18:38] <azharcs> chemmy I am planning to install VirtualBox on my Ubuntu 8.04
[18:38] <ozzloy> CaBlGuY: heh, no
[18:38] <Static--> << likes virtualbox
[18:38] <azharcs> snuitje : Isn't vmware a paid software.
[18:38] <Static--> works just fine
[18:38] <LogicalDash> My new old Logitech keyboard has some buttons on the left that are for image viewing--zoom in, zoom out, rotate... How do I get Ubuntu to map those to the corresponding shortcuts? Right now it doesn't seem to recognize those keys at all, at least not in The GIMP.
[18:38] <snuitje> azharcs: vmware-server, vmware-esx and vmware-player aren't
[18:38] <CaBlGuY> ozzloy: ok, just checkin..  it's good to be sure b4 ya start suggestin stuff.  ;)
[18:38] <chemmmy> i used it on 8.04, worked okay
[18:38] <otuks> ozzloy: ok, seems your problem may be worse than a muted master volume, .. :) i'm a beginner with ubuntu but had the problem i explained earlier
[18:38] <snuitje> azharcs: vmware-workstation and vmware-virtualcenter can be renewed every 30 days by requesting a new trial key ^^
[18:39] <Scunizi> azharcs: vmware server and I think it's called emx or something like that are non-free and unpaid. free to download..
[18:39] <azharcs> Scunizi : Will check out Virtualbox, have to read the documentation first.
[18:39] <Scunizi> azharcs: if you get stuck #vbox at times is a good resource
[18:39] <snuitje> azharcs: http://www.easyvmx.com/ this can get you a vm for vmware player
[18:39] <ozzloy> no, this is definitely deeper than a sound slider being all the way down.  i'm getting error messages
[18:40] <snuitje> azharcs: lsilogic scsi performs best, but for winxp you'll need a driver disk, it's all in the guest os install guide, google it you'll find lots of info ;)
[18:40] <droopsta915> is creating an archive the same as compressing a file?
[18:40] <Static--> ^yes
[18:40] <thedoc^> is there a dvd burning application that i can use for 8.10 that allows me to set booktype/bitsetting ?
[18:40] <CaBlGuY> ozzloy:  sounds like you may be havin some driver issues..  you may want to go do a search on your computers audio hardware for Ubuntu
[18:40] <CaBlGuY> or, try the wiki..
[18:40] <CaBlGuY> !wiki
[18:41] <azharcs> Scumizi : Thanks, will go with VMware then
[18:41] <slestak> droopsta915: not exactly, an archive can contain one or more files/directories
[18:41] <Scunizi> thedoc^: not sure what that is.. but have you looked at k3b.. lots of advanced settings in that one that can be changed
[18:41] <azharcs> snuitje : Thanks, will read all the info, hope it is easy. Does it work in AMD_64 as well
[18:41] <snuitje> azharcs: yes, and you can get a 64 bit vm, with smp too iirc
[18:41] <CaBlGuY> ok, anyone have any experience with error 5?  I need to find a fix..
[18:42] <LogicalDash> !ask | CaBlGuY
[18:42] <droopsta915> my computer is running slow, im backing everything up and reinstalling, any recommendations?
[18:42] <thedoc^> Scunizi - yeah i was looking through brasero / didnt find the option, bitsetting is basically the ability to change DVD+R formats to more readable DVD-ROM formats for example
[18:42] <Scunizi> azharcs: either way you go you'll have to install build-essential
[18:42] <cwillu> droopsta915  You can compress a file without packaging multiple files together, and you can archive files together without compressing them.  In windows terms, zip files usually do both, but the 'store' compression method just does the archiving without compressing
[18:42] <snuitje> snuitjeL vmware has a forum tho, this is the ubuntu channel, so good luck ^^
[18:42] <ozzloy> CaBlGuY: these speakers worked yesterday
[18:42] <thedoc^> provided if your burner allows bitsetting/booktyping
[18:42] <Scunizi> thedoc^: k3b might be the answer then
[18:42] <CaBlGuY> LogicalDash:  done asked some time ago..  no one has given any sggestions yet...  sorry..
[18:43] <CaBlGuY> ozzloy:  Hmmmm   maybe some loose cables then..  I dunno..
[18:43] <CaBlGuY> *shrugs*
[18:43] <LogicalDash> CaBlGuY: The forums are better for especially involved troubleshooting, or if the problem is really obscure
[18:43] <azharcs> Thanks everyone for the help. Appreciated.
[18:43] <CaBlGuY> LogicalDash:  k...   thanks I'll have a look later then..
[18:44] <Hargo> Question.
[18:44] <snuitje> shoot
[18:44] <Hargo> Why, when I try the following command: "rsync -avxP /mnt/hda1 /mnt/hdb1", would I get a Permission Denied on many of the files that are listed?
[18:44] <thedoc^> my last question is , i've upgraded to 8.10, was there a workaroud for nvidia laptop GPU cards? / i upgraded last night to 8.10 from 8.04 LTS / and my external CRT monitor connected to my laptop wouldn't turn on nor become recognized in the resolutions
[18:44] <Hargo> Particularly if I run as root.
[18:44] <ozzloy> CaBlGuY: no, i'm getting error messages.  this is a conflicting sound server problem.  the error message from "System -> Preferences -> Sound" is `audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Failed to connect: Connection refused`
[18:45] <snuitje> azharcs: btw i meant to tell you about vmware forum, scheize
[18:45] <thedoc^> Scunizi - yeah i'll check out k3b for the burning app
[18:45] <ozzloy> how do i kill the gnome sound server?
[18:45] <azharcs> snuitje : you mean vmwareforum.org
[18:47] <vili> hi
[18:48] <vili> i am in a great need of support, could someone help me?
[18:48] <LogicalDash> ozzloy: Do you know the name of the process? If so, you can use killall <name>
[18:48] <LogicalDash> !ask | vili
[18:49] <snuitje> azharcs: you could try that, or vmtn, which you can find here http://communities.vmware.com/home.jspa
[18:49] <Hargo> How do I force-unmount a busy device?
[18:50] <LogicalDash> Hargo: sudo umount -f <mountpoint>
[18:50] <vili> i lost my WLAN connection when i deleted a connection from network-manager. device wont find anything with scan now, how can i get my WLAN up and working?
[18:50] <azharcs> snuitje: Thanks will check it out
[18:51] <Hargo> LogicalDash: It's still returning "device is busy"
[18:51] <LogicalDash> vili: You say you deleted a connection from network manager. Do you mean that you deleted a device, such as eth1, or a network, such as 2WIRE101?
[18:51] <chandru_in> Hi.  I'm using Ubuntu 8.10.  Whenever, I play Torcs, the sound gets stuck at random times and Torcs crashes.  It once happened when I opened a presentation containing sound effects in open office too.  But playing music with Rhythmbox for several hours works fine.  Is there any setting I can change to fix thie?
[18:52] <truthslave> just got ubuntu
[18:52] <LogicalDash> Hargo: you might try the -l and -r options, read the manpage
[18:52] <vili> LogicalDash: i just deleted a created "Auto KotiWLAN" connection because it was connection with a wrong password all the time ( i use WPA)
[18:52] <starenka> hi, im a KDE guy... i wonder is there a way how to manipulate clipboard content in commandline in gnome? in kde it's a cakewalk with dcop...
[18:52] <Hargo> LogicalDash: What I'm really trying to do is stop an in-progress rsync.
[18:52] <LogicalDash> Hargo: Have you killed the process? You probably should.
[18:53] <Hargo> LogicalDash: Which process should I kill?
[18:53] <LogicalDash> Hargo: Whichever one's doing the sync, I dunno ;-)
[18:53] <Lakota> how do I get a Pharos GPS-500 sirf III to work in virtualbox guest XP, I tried the alt+inset to add but nothing shows up
[18:53] <Hargo> LogicalDash: I started rsync through the terminal.
[18:53] <_2> does anyone know how to setup /etc/network/interfaces to get eth? set as PROMISC ?              inet6 addr: fe80::240:f4ff:fe28:3e97/64 Scope:Link
[18:53] <_2>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[18:53] <ozzloy> LogicalDash, CaBlGuY otuks: turns out restarting pulseaudio fixed it!
[18:53] <LogicalDash> Hargo: Well, if you go to that terminal and hit Ctrl+C it'll kill the process
[18:54] <ozzloy> LogicalDash, CaBlGuY otuks: thanks for your time
[18:54] <CaBlGuY> ozzloy:  good for you..  :)
[18:54] <racquad> hi guys, what's a good app to check the cpu temp?
[18:54] <snuitje> starenka: #gnome, irc.gimp.org try them =)
[18:54] <Emphastala> just installed 8.10 .. downloaded the 64bit flash plugin but no matter what directory I place it in, firefox will not load the plugin.
[18:54] <osxdude|laptop> racquad, there is a gnome panel applet that can show you.
[18:54] <Hargo> LogicalDash: And if I already closed the window?
[18:55] <LogicalDash> vili: OK, so when you click on the network manager applet, you don't get a list of wireless networks like you're supposed to?
[18:55] <osxdude|laptop> !info sensors-applet
[18:55] <slmnhq> hi, i'm trying to run two virtual machines (kvm, qemu) but i am having trouble with the networking part.
[18:55] <racquad> osxdude|laptop> which?
[18:55] <LogicalDash> Hargo: It's possible the process is hung, try using the system monitor to track it down
[18:55] <starenka> snuitje: thx
[18:55] <Professor_K> it's so weird, I can't access google.com...google.fr works, google.de works, all other sites work, but google all of a sudden stopped working. I cleared firefox's cache but that didnt resolve the problem. And I can access google.com on my mac but not on my ubuntu box...
[18:55] <Hargo> LogicalDash: What would it be called?
[18:55] <osxdude|laptop> racquad, sensors-applet.
[18:55] <izzle> Can anybody help with Rythmbox?
[18:55] <slmnhq> the host is hardy heron, the guests are both centos
[18:55] <vili> LogicalDash: yeah, then i switched to wicd as someone in the forum suggested, i have tried restarting drivers. wicd doesn't find a connection either
[18:56] <allan> ]{53: I took the deb, but it depends on “sun-java5-jre | sun-java6-jre” — via aptitude I only have openjdk-6-jre — I have never installed directly via dpkg before, is this where I just drop it, or can I “force” it (or similar) to use openjdk-6-jre?
[18:56] <_2> racquad http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/19251
[18:56] <LogicalDash> vili: It might be a bad idea to run both Network Manager and wicd at the same time.
[18:56] <chandru_in> Sorry I got  disconnected
[18:56] <chandru_in> any solution for me?
[18:56] <snuitje> !ask | izzle
[18:56] <Scunizi> vili: LogicalDash is right.. one or the other.. not both
[18:56] <vili> LogicalDash: the install deleted network-manager at the same time it installs
[18:56] <rtark> hey I think I got this to work
[18:56] <izzle> yes snuitje
[18:56] <vili> i have only wicd now
[18:57] <slmnhq> is there anybody here who is familiar with kvm networking options. the ubuntu doc on the www is not helping me.
[18:57] <truthslave> whats the big difff in ....ubuntu and linux
[18:57] <LogicalDash> vili: You could try purging network-manager (thus deleting its config files) and installing it again
[18:57] <rtark> can someone verify that they can see me
[18:57] <LogicalDash> vili: Unless you don't want to use network-manager?
[18:57] <slmnhq> rtark, yes
[18:57] <truthslave> hey rtark i see ya
[18:57] <rtark> thanks, this was my first time
[18:57] <vili> LogicalDash: i will use itif it works, only tried wicd as a fix
[18:58] <izzle> Can somebody please tell me how to prevent duplicate entries in RYTHMBOX and when transfering to my iPOD?
[18:58] <]{53> allan - you might search google for instructions for your specific ubuntu version, I am sure they are out there.
[18:58] <rtark> just installed Ubuntu 8.10 a few days ago
[18:58] <vili> LogicalDash: i will try to remove wicd, purge network-manager and then reinstall it
[18:58] <snuitje> truthslave: ubuntu gets you a linux system real easy, does that answer your question?
[18:58] <Gabri> ciao
[18:58] <LogicalDash> vili: Well, this does sound like your config files got messed up, so I would suggest running "sudo apt-get purge network-manager", then "sudo apt-get install network-manager"
[18:58] <Lakota> do you have to install a driver for the pharos GPS-500 in ubuntu before it will work in the virtualbox guest XP?
[18:58] <slmnhq> can somebody tell me how to setup kvm so my guest OSes and host OS can ping each other?
[18:59] <vili> LogicalDash: yeah, on it. btw i am running acer aspire one laptop, as a sidenote
[18:59] <truthslave> thanks snitje
[18:59] <racquad> osxdude|laptop> i have just installed, but it has enabled only the hdd temp
[18:59] <LogicalDash> vili: As I recall, that means you have an Atheros wireless chipset?
[18:59] <osxdude|laptop> racquad, you may have to adjust the prefrences.
[19:00] <vili> LogicalDash, thats right. i got it to work but when i booted up after some installing and that remove thing, it would not work
[19:00] <izzle> Can somebody please tell me how to prevent duplicate entries in RYTHMBOX and when transfering to my iPOD?
[19:00] <izzle> Can somebody please tell me how to prevent duplicate entries in RYTHMBOX and when transfering to my iPOD?
[19:00] <racquad> osxdude|laptop> on its preferences, there is only the hdd temp to be configured.
[19:00] <vertx> can someone tell me where i can find dhcp server? in hich package? i tried sudo apt-get install dhcpd but aptitude says it could not find such package :(
[19:00] <otuks> whoaa! there's amarok release candidate 2.0. i'm gonna try if it works better. sorry for the stupid questions & keep it real :)
[19:00] <osxdude|laptop> really?
[19:00] <osxdude|laptop> click the Sensors tab, racquad
[19:00] <Scunizi> vertx: not sure but sudo apt-cache search dhcp
[19:00] <racquad> osxdude|laptop> i'm on it
[19:01] <LogicalDash> vili: Well, FWIW the Atheros drivers are mostly proprietary right now, they've been known to be a little wonky
[19:01] <izzle> Can somebody please tell me how to prevent duplicate entries in RYTHMBOX and when transfering to my iPOD?
[19:01] <osxdude|laptop> open some of the dropdowns there
[19:01] <vertx> Scunizi: thanks, i'll try that
[19:01] <Scunizi> vertx: np :)
[19:01] <Lakota> do you have to install a driver for the pharos GPS-500 in ubuntu before it will work in the virtualbox guest XP?
[19:01] <vili> LogicalDash: i am installing network-manager again now
[19:01] <Scunizi> Lakota: is that a usb device?
[19:01] <droopsta915> is it possible to create an iso of my flashdrive?
[19:01] <Lakota> yes
[19:01] <racquad> osxdude|laptop> all I can see is the hddtemp
[19:01] <Scunizi> Lakota: did you install vbox from the repos?
[19:02] <izzle> Can somebody please tell me how to prevent duplicate entries in RYTHMBOX and when transfering to my iPOD?
[19:02] <LogicalDash> !spam | izzle
[19:02] <Lakota> no got latest version with add ons 2.0.6
[19:02] <snuitje> vertx: dhcp3-server iirc
[19:02] <osxdude|laptop> racquad, interesting. well, your computer might not have sensors. Or, ubuntu doesn't see the sensors.
[19:02] <Scunizi> Lakota: does the device show up in the usb icon at the bottom bar of the vbox vm window?
[19:02] <vili> LogicalDash: i will now restart, hopefully its just the configs as i am not a very experienced linux user
[19:03] <vertx> snuitje: thanks :) i'll look into it
[19:03] <Lakota> no it dose not
[19:03] <racquad> i'm using the acer aspire one, the netbook
[19:03] <Lakota> I have delorme and ms streets and trips on guest XP
[19:03] <snuitje> izzle: irc.gimp.org #rhythmbox, and wait a while before asking again please
[19:03] <snuitje> good luck
[19:04] <Lakota> guest XP has all drivers installed
[19:04] <Scunizi> Lakota.. have you edited your fstab for usb inclusion for vbox?
[19:04] <droopsta915> im backing up all the files I need in my flash drive to reinstall ubunut, how can i create an iso of all those files?
[19:04] <Lakota> yes both boxes are checke for the usb in settings
[19:04] <LogicalDash> droopsta915: It would probably be easier to create a .tar file
[19:04] <snuitje> droopsta915: open up the cd/dvd workshop
[19:04] <snuitje> droopsta915: then drag the files into it and press burn
[19:05] <droopsta915> thanks
[19:05] <Lakota> oh wait not fstab.... what is fstab?
[19:05] <Scunizi> Lakota: no .. i mean fstab.. I'll paste the line you need. hang on.
[19:05] <Lakota> :)
[19:06] <racquad> osxdude|laptop> i'm using the acer aspire one, the netbook
[19:06] <vili> LogicalDash: it didn't work, when i click the networkmanaget, wired connection shows auto eth0 and there is just bold Wireless networks with nothing below it
[19:07] <Scunizi> Lakota: add the very bottom line to /etc/fstab (sudo gedit /etc/fstab) exactly.. cut and paste if needed ... then save.. now sudo mount -a
[19:07] <zleap> ello
[19:07] <LogicalDash> vili: OK, could you do an lspci -vv and find your wireless card in there? Paste what it says about Atheros
[19:07] <Scunizi> Lakota: that may still not finish it... you might have to restart vbox.
[19:07] <emboss> I've changed from xubuntu to ubuntu by install ubuntu-desktop is it possible to go back to get the default ubuntu gdm theme also?
[19:08] <|ntegra|> could you please help me rearrange permissions for my hdd partitions? (I've added another user who has no access to the other partitions of my drive)
[19:08] <osxdude|laptop> racquad, I think it doesn't have sensors ubuntu would be able detect
[19:08] <snuitje> emboss: system > administration > login window
[19:08] <vili> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[19:08] <vili> 	Subsystem: Foxconn International, Inc. Device e008
[19:08] <vili> 	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
[19:08] <vili> 	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
[19:08] <vili> 	Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 128 bytes
[19:08] <FloodBot2> vili: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:08] <vili> 	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 18
[19:08] <racquad> osxdude|laptop> thanks anyway
[19:09] <Lakota> ok ill try this
[19:09] <Lakota> thanks
[19:09] <Berri> No flashes are working on my PC no mater how many times I restart firefox.
[19:09] <LogicalDash> vili: sorry, I should've told you about pastebinning
[19:09] <chamunks> Is anyone able to help me fix my audio?  I've got a pulse audio issue that i never had with ubuntu hardy's ubuntu studio edition.
[19:09] <GodfatherofEire> Anybody now when/if the refresh rate/ indirect rendering problem is gonna be fixed under compiz?
[19:10] <vili> LogicalDash:http://paste.ubuntu.com/77177/ no problem, just forgot it
[19:10] <emboss> snuitje: cheers
[19:10] <Berri> Can anyone help me?
[19:10] <snuitje> !ask | Berri
[19:10] <vili> LogicalDash, it says something about access denied
[19:11] <benoka1> i have no sound, although not muted!!
[19:11] <Berri> NO flash objects are working on my browser no matter how many time I restart it. Anyone know what I should do or why it's not working?
[19:11] <snuitje> Berri: adobe flash or gnash?
[19:11]  * benoka1 nickserv
[19:11] <quiet> Berri: have you installed flashplayer?
[19:11] <LogicalDash> vili: That just means you're not allowed that information
[19:12] <droopsta915> whats a good software to create iso images?
[19:12] <vili> LogicalDash: ah, my mistake
[19:12] <chamunks> please please I really want my sound back
[19:12] <LogicalDash> vili: You could get it with sudo but I don't think it'll be very useful
[19:12] <Berri> Um let me check hang on.
[19:12] <chamunks> Ok Need my sound back.
[19:12] <nivektrio> hi whats the best mode to use AHCPI or SATA? in laptops..
[19:12] <snuitje> droopsta915: nautilus, why?
[19:12] <quiet> Berri: check in firefox url  "about:plugins"
[19:12] <LjL> droopsta915: virtually any CD burning package will also allow creating ISO images
[19:13] <LogicalDash> vili: Anyway, what interests me about that output is that there's a kernel driver and two different modules associated with this hardware, and a failure in any one of those, or in communication between any two of those, could mess it up. So at this point I admit the end of my expertise and I'd just as soon start googling for the drivers and modules.
[19:13] <vili> LogicalDash: yeah, you are right
[19:13] <quiet> droopsta915: i prefer dd for creating iso's from cd images.
[19:13] <snuitje> quiet: orly
[19:13] <quiet> snuitje: ya rly
[19:13] <vertx> guys, i already installed ubuntu-server, and would like some X capability. i have xfce in mind as its window manager. what is the best way to go about it? can you point me to a site (tutorial and such)?
[19:13] <urthmover> Firewall issue: when I run... 'sudo ufw allow 53'  I get a Rule Updated  but when I run sudo nmap on my host it does not show port 53 to be open. Do I need to somehow restart the UFW app when Rules are updated?  Anyone have any suggestions on how to successfully open a port?
[19:13] <root______> quiet create iso from image with dd ???
[19:13] <droopsta915> Ljl: do i create a data cd? How do I create the image?
[19:14] <quiet> root______: yes?  mount the cd and then   dd if=/dev/sdc of=/home/mine/whatever.iso
[19:14] <Otacon22> How can i know the UUID of a partition?
[19:14] <Aperculum> What encryption does my ~/Private use in 8.10?
[19:14] <root______> quiet that's not from image,  that's rom device.
[19:14] <LjL> dropbear_: that depends on the software, but there's often a "create iso" menu or button next to the "burn cd" one
[19:14] <Berri> Shockwave Flash apprently
[19:15] <root______> quiet and you don't need ot mount it first
[19:15] <LogicalDash> droopsta915: when you go to burn a CD it offers you the option to burn to image
[19:15] <LjL> !blkid | Otacon22
[19:15] <vili> LogicalDash: yeah, the thing with this one is that i just deleted the connection and didn't modify the drivers, so the bug is unknown, anyway, ill try to reboot my modem and google -> thanks for your time Dash!
[19:15] <LogicalDash> vili: good luck!
[19:15] <GodfatherofEire> Anybody know if/when Compiz Fusion is gonna be fixed up for the rendering problems?
[19:15] <droopsta915> LogicalDash: does K3b do this?
[19:15] <gwennn> hello! I have a strange issue...I have a small vista partition(just in case...)I can only login in vista ONLY with the same keyboard. It don't recognise no other one  :(
[19:16] <LogicalDash> droopsta915: I think so
[19:16] <Flapperbol> Hi there
[19:16] <mohbana> do i need to clear my temp files every so often?
[19:16] <quiet> gwennn: this sounds like a vista problem, not a ubuntu problem?
[19:16] <LjL> mohbana: they're cleared at each reboot
[19:16] <snuitje> droopsta915: sure k3b can do that, but a standard ubuntu installation already has the neccesary tools
[19:16] <LogicalDash> droopsta915: If all you want to do is backup a bunch of files to a flash drive, why not use the archive manager to create a .tar file, or a .zip or something?
[19:16] <mohbana> my system is getting quite slow, i don't know why
[19:16] <gwennn> yes
[19:17] <Flapperbol> quick question: Is it possible to receive wireless on Ubuntu, and forward it to LAN?
[19:17] <Berri> quiet and snuitje, I have shockwave flash. Don't seem to have Gnash or Adobe
[19:17] <LjL> mohbana: "df" will tell you if the drive is full
[19:17] <LogicalDash> mohbana: you can go into the system monitor and see what application is taking up the most CPU
[19:17] <root______> mohbana clearing /tmp while inside of xorg can crash applications.
[19:17] <LjL> !inetsharing | Flapperbol
[19:17] <snuitje> berri: shockwave flash is from adobe
[19:17] <snuitje> berri: used to be from macromedia
[19:18] <Berri> Okies >_<
[19:18] <gwennn> quiet;but I have no issues in ubuntu...
[19:19] <quiet> gwennn: that's not surprising. You shouldn't. You really hsouldn't in Vista either. The keyboard is the most basic, standard input device for a computer. Is it a USB keyboard or PS/2?
[19:19] <quiet> josh
[19:19] <gwennn> usb
[19:20] <quiet> gwennn: and you plugged in another usb keyboard and it didn't work in vista, but works in ubuntu?
[19:20] <innovate2000> "failed to join domain: failed to get DC for domain BLAH.LOCAL" issue in Intrepid - anyone else solve this?  "net ads lookup dc" and "net ads info" work fine. see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6252005 (entry by DouglasK on pg 18)
[19:20] <root______> speaking of keyboards, i have one of those 134 key  keyboards  is there any way to configure it at the xorg level ?
[19:20] <Scunizi> vertx: sudo apt-get install xfce4 or sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[19:21] <hamoude> salu
[19:22] <vertx> Scunizi: thanks (again) for your help :)
[19:22] <gwennn> quiet:yes
[19:22] <urthmover> Firewall issue: when I run... 'sudo ufw allow 53'  I get a Rule  Updated  but when I run sudo nmap on my host it does not show port 53  to be open. Do I need to somehow restart the UFW app when Rules are  updated?  Anyone have any suggestions on how to successfully open a  port?
[19:22] <[a1]> what program can i use to make a regular dvd outoff some avi files, so i can see them on my home thearer system?
[19:22] <hamoude> ses apropos de beryl
[19:22] <Scunizi> vertx: :-)  not sure if xfce4 by itself will do it.. but the other will. it will also pull in a lot of standard packages
[19:22] <snuitje> urthmover: 53 udp or tcp?
[19:23] <pgreg> #ubuntu-it
[19:23] <urthmover> tcp I believe
[19:23] <gwennn> quiet; it works but it does't recognise the password
[19:23] <hamoude> sil vous plait comment installer beryl sur ubuntu hardy???
[19:23] <GodfatherofEire> Anybody know about what's gonna happen with Compiz? Are the same framerate/buffer issues gonna be there?
[19:23] <urthmover> snuitje: tcp I believe
[19:23] <snuitje> urthmover: try netstat -plant
[19:23] <jgoguen> !fr | hamoude
[19:23] <urthmover> snuitje: ok *trying*
[19:24] <snuitje> urthmover: if something is listening on that port, then something odd is going on, if not, oh well
[19:24] <kesi> I notice that when I boot, grub gives me multiple options for Ubuntu that all look the same.. Is it safe to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and get rid of the redundant ones?
[19:25] <fosco_> kesi, you'd better let the system do that
[19:25] <vertx> Scunizi: yeah, i might add x-window-system-core before xfce4. hopefully it will be lighter that the whole xubuntu-desktop package.
[19:25] <snuitje> kesi: remove your old kernels in the package manager
[19:25] <kesi> snuitje, ok, in synaptic?
[19:25] <rabinho> anyone know any channel with active debate arounf free and open source software ?
[19:25] <root______> kesi version numbering
[19:25] <urthmover> snuitje: hmm I'm a bit confused about what I'm looking for when I run netstat -plant
[19:26] <kesi> root______, they all say the same thing:Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.24-21-generic
[19:26] <snuitje> kesi: yes, the package linux-generic depends on the latest kernel, so you better keep that
[19:26] <root______> kesi then yes it's safe
[19:26] <RenzoreK> Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex will not save my user session. Is this a bug??
[19:26] <urthmover> snuitje: I was just using sudo ufw allow 53 as an example to see if that command was working
[19:26] <kesi> snuitje, ok, I'm in synaptic, where do I look for this?
[19:27] <urthmover> I'm really trying to open something in the 49200 range for torrents
[19:27] <flo90> hello i've a problem: i have a cable input (from an microphone) and an cable output to my boxes. but i can't hear anything. how can i connect input and output. this problem appears only with 8.10 inpedix, not with hardy
[19:27] <snuitje> urthmover: allowing a port doesn't mean the port is then "open", it has to be used by a program to be in the "open" state
[19:27] <urthmover> snuitje: AH  ok that is helpful
[19:28] <urthmover> snuitje: I'll make sure torrentflux  is configured to use that port   thanks
[19:28] <karllenz87> hey goes my window borders went missing (like the minimize/maximize/esc button at the top right corner of my windows) how do i get them back?
[19:28] <kesi> root______, oh wait, one says /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-21-generic and one says Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-7-generic
[19:29] <snuitje> kesi: i always search for e.g. 2.6.24 if thats the kernel version i want to remove
[19:29] <karllenz87> anyone?
[19:30] <flo90> hello i've a problem: i have a cable input (from an microphone) and an cable output to my boxes. but i can't hear anything. how can i connect input and output. this problem appears only with 8.10 inpedix, not with hardy
[19:30] <snuitje> karllenz87: using desktop effects?
[19:30] <karllenz87> yes
[19:31] <|ntegra|> !sudo
[19:31] <snuitje> karllenz87: alt+f1 should get you a menu so you can get into appearance and disable effects for a bit
[19:31] <ans> how are you
[19:31] <root______> well i've done my last update on the dapper release.   no way will i continue to try to dl updates this large   Need to get 113MB of archives
[19:31] <snuitje> !ontopic | ans
[19:31] <karllenz87> snu yes with desktop effects
[19:31] <ans> i am new in the chat
[19:32] <flo90> hello i've a problem: i have a cable input (from an microphone) and an cable output to my boxes. but i can't hear anything. how can i connect input and output. this problem appears only with 8.10 inpedix, not with hardy
[19:33] <pim_> Hello, how could I tell Ubuntu 8.10 to save my sound settings? It seems the music volume is set to full, every time I reboot my system?
[19:34] <NotADJ> Where are kernel modules stored?
[19:34] <snuitje> flo90: sure the mic is enabled in the mixer panel?
[19:34] <mysteryskater73> skater73
[19:34] <mysteryskater73> what is this?
[19:34] <anubis> Could someone help with installing an ATI driver?
[19:34] <flo90> wheres the mixer panel?
[19:34] <mysteryskater73> oh this is pretty cool
[19:34] <mysteryskater73> you can have people help you with your problems
[19:35] <mysteryskater73> hey does anyone know how to make dvds play in Ubuntu Studio?
[19:35] <LogicalDash> mysteryskater73: you need to install libdvdcss, it's available in an unofficial repository called Medibuntu
[19:35] <kibibyte> hi
[19:35] <LogicalDash> !hi
[19:35] <kibibyte> why i cannot dowload maven
[19:36] <mysteryskater73> where do i get that?
[19:36] <anubis> Could someone help with installing an ATI driver?
[19:36] <LogicalDash> !medibuntu | mysteryskater73
[19:36] <kibibyte> sudo aptitude install maven
[19:36] <kibibyte> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "maven"
[19:36] <kibibyte> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "maven"
[19:36] <kibibyte> ?
[19:36] <FloodBot2> kibibyte: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:36] <tux9778> anubis hi did u check ur hardware drivers?
[19:36] <kibibyte> can you dowload maven with aptitude?
[19:37] <snuitje> flo90: do you see a speaker in the upper right corner?
[19:37] <samll> how can I rename a directory of a remote server? i can only execute scp,sftp,or rsync
[19:37] <kibibyte> help
[19:37] <LogicalDash> !repeat | kibibyte
[19:38] <RenzoreK> Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex will not save my user session. Is this a bug??
[19:38] <erUSUL> !find maven2 | kibibyte
[19:38] <erUSUL> !find intrepid maven2 | kibibyte
[19:38] <erUSUL> :|
[19:39] <erUSUL> kibibyte: the package is maven2
[19:39] <kibibyte> erUSUL, does it mean there is no package for ubuntu?
[19:39] <erUSUL> kibibyte: no it means the bot is re***ed ;P
[19:39] <erUSUL> !info maven2 | kibibyte
[19:39] <NotADJ> Where are kernel modules stored?
[19:39] <kibibyte> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "maven2"
[19:39] <kibibyte> :(
[19:39] <mysteryskater73> steryskater73
[19:39] <mysteryskater73> how do you enable desktop Effects in Studio?
[19:40] <snuitje> !universe | kibibyte
[19:40] <erUSUL> kibibyte: you ar ein intrepid right?
[19:40] <kibibyte> ewhat?
[19:40] <leoechevarria> hi there
[19:40] <erUSUL> kibibyte: you are using 8.10 intrepid; right?
[19:40] <LogicalDash> mysteryskater73: System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[19:40] <kibibyte> 8.04
[19:40] <nande12> hello all.  I have a question hopefully someone can help me with
[19:40] <kibibyte> hardy
[19:41] <leoechevarria> have anyone of you ever had a problem with making ubuntu into a usb stick? i try to do it and when i boot with it i see the message : "could not find kernel image: linux"
[19:41] <leoechevarria> any idea?
[19:41] <snuitje> maven2 is in 8.04 as well
[19:41] <nande12> I recently installed ubuntu 8.10 on my usb stick using usb-creator
[19:41] <nande12> can I make the usb drive writable?
[19:41] <snuitje> nande12: me too, that was awesome =D
[19:41] <nande12> yeah it went slick
[19:42] <erUSUL> kibibyte: you have to enable universe repo... System>Admin>Software Soureces on the first tab
[19:42] <leoechevarria> but i can't boot with it :S it can't find the kernel image
[19:42] <cw-will> hi
[19:42] <kibibyte> erUSUL, i have it enabled
[19:42] <nande12> snuitje: have you been able to write to the usb stick as ubuntu user?
[19:42] <erUSUL> kibibyte: well then maven2 is there...
[19:43] <RenzoreK> Is anyone able to have their gnome session saved?
[19:43] <erUSUL> kibibyte: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/maven2
[19:43] <snuitje> nande12: i couldn't access the usb drive in itself, didn't investigate much though
[19:43] <nande12> it gets mounted as /cdrom
[19:43] <nande12> on my box
[19:43] <snuitje> ah ok
[19:43] <Lakota> hi, I have ubuntu i386 8.10 and the newest vbox 2.0.6 with guest XP and all addons and the usb is enabled in setting of vbox, but I cant get my Pharos GPS-500 to show up in vbox usb filter to share it with guest XP
[19:44] <snuitje> i just needed something that installs ubuntu without a cd :) it worked :) :)
[19:44] <slmnhq> can somebody tell me how to setup kvm so my guest OSes and host OS can ping each other?
[19:44] <nande12> snuitje I have tried chmod but it hasn't worked.  root has read/write and everyone elsee has read only
[19:44] <snuitje> nande12: ic, try -o remount,uid=1000,gid=1000
[19:46] <kibibyte> erUSUL, my aptituude stop working
[19:46] <kibibyte> :(
[19:46] <nande12> snuitje: huh?
[19:46] <snuitje> nande12: as in mount -o remount,uid=1000,gid=1000 /cdrom
[19:47] <Scunizi> Lakota: sorry.. been working.. are you looking in the "filter" section of vbox for your device?
[19:48] <woli> what do i need to install to develop C gtk interfaces?
[19:48] <typhon> helo room i would like to ask something
[19:48] <gregd> hi guys, I'd like to switch my kernel to jaunty kernel, how to do it?
[19:48] <snuitje> woli: easiest thing i always do is apt-get build-dep <favourite gtk app>
[19:48] <captainc> i installed a program from source and it installed libraries to /usr/local/lib. When I try to use the library, I am getting complaints that the system cannot find the lib*.so.0 file. it exists in /usr/local/lib. Why can the system not find it?
[19:48] <typhon> where can i find some useful tools for linux?
[19:49] <Pici> typhon: What kind of tools?
[19:49] <captainc> typhon: getdeb.net
[19:49] <woli> anybody with a more accurate instruction?
[19:49] <Lakota> no looking for my device in the filter area
[19:49] <typhon> i would like to get some tools like ping tools netzwerk tools and some ftp and dir tools
[19:49] <typhon> kinda those tools like i had in windows
[19:50] <applesauce> typhon, nmap is good for network analysis
[19:50] <typhon> i m new in ubuntu i know just lil about ubuntu thats why i m asking u here guys
[19:50] <nande12> snuitje: no luck
[19:50] <typhon> i have nmap already :) thanks applesauce
[19:50] <applesauce> typhon, ping and ftp are built in, you can get a good ftp gui if you want: sudo apt-get install gftp
[19:50] <Pici> typhon: Look in your favorite package manager, there are many networking tools in the software repositories
[19:50] <typhon> oo really pici ? thats cool i will do it
[19:50] <applesauce> yeah check out applications -> add / remove
[19:50] <typhon> but what about tools like john the ripper and kinda things
[19:50] <typhon> ?
[19:51]  * paranoid_ndroid http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7749932.stm
[19:51] <Lakota> can create a filter but no device shows up for the filter to add
[19:51] <Pici> typhon: in the repos.
[19:51]  * paranoid_ndroid In the play, the robot complains that it has been forced into boring and demeaning jobs and enters into a discussion with the humans about its role in their lives. 
[19:51] <nande12> command excutes but still no write access
[19:51] <Pici> paranoid_ndroid: This doesn't have anything to do with Ubuntu. Please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere.
[19:52] <Scunizi> Lakota, don't look there.. sometimes you need to disable the usb2.0 support to make it work.. but you should find your device in the vm by going to the top of the box and clicking Devices/Usb..check that out.
[19:52] <applesauce> typhon, for particular software packages search at packages.ubuntu.com or try getdeb.net
[19:52] <typhon> thanks i m doing already applesauce
[19:52] <RenzoreK> Is anyone able to have their gnome session saved?
[19:52] <Lakota> ok will try that thanks again :)
[19:52] <snuitje> woli: install the packages libgtk2.0-dev and glade-3
[19:52] <Scunizi> Lakota: that is.. start your VM of windows then look where I mentioned above.
[19:52] <Scunizi> Lakota: are you also a member of the vbox group?
[19:53] <nathan42100> yeah....I just updated last night, it messed some things up. #1, firefox won't start. Terminal gives the error: "Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.0.1 and 1.9.0.*." #2 Themes got messed up. Human no longer has orange, etc
[19:53] <nathan42100> any ideas?
[19:53] <woli> snuitje, thanks
[19:53] <kibibyte> pls help
[19:53] <kibibyte> Ign http://ubuntu.task.gda.pl hardy-security/main Translation-en_US
[19:53] <ubuntu> jlb
[19:53] <kibibyte> why ignored?
[19:53] <snuitje> nande12: how are the permissions?
[19:53] <Lakota> yeah I had to register when I got it
[19:54] <nande12> drwxr-xr-x  10 root root  4096 Jan  1  1970 cdrom
[19:54] <snuitje> nande12: scheize, it didn't work :'(
[19:54] <anubis> Could someone help me with the installation of an ATI Driver?  I am getting this error when installing it...
[19:54] <Scunizi> Lakota: I didn't mean registering with the vbox site.. but becoming a member of the vbox "group" on your machine
[19:54] <VSpike> Hm. Watching DVD on my laptop I get a lot of tear and flicker with a horizontal panning shot.  Is that expected with this kind of hardware? 1.7GHz Pentium, 1.5GB RAM, Intel 915 graphics
[19:54] <anubis> Detected configuration:
[19:54] <nande12> snuitje: nope
[19:54] <anubis> Architecture: i686 (32-bit)
[19:55] <anubis> X Server: unable to detect
[19:55] <anubis> Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install
[19:55] <FloodBot2> anubis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:55] <VSpike> Using mplayer, compiz disabled, tried xv and gl output
[19:55] <lucax> whats the difference between i386 and i686?
[19:56] <Scunizi> lucax: 200
[19:56] <Scunizi> lucax: oops.. 300
[19:56] <atomekk> Hello does somebody had problems with weird gl artefacts sometimes on screen in kde ?
[19:56] <lucax> Scunizi, u cant even count!
[19:56] <VSpike> Scunizi: probably i300 to be precise :)
[19:56] <snuitje> nande12: maybe a bind mount, mount -o bind,uid=1000,gid=1000 /cdrom /mnt/foo
[19:56] <nande12> snuitje: does it matter that I am running ubuntu off of it?
[19:56] <RenzoreK> Does anyone know if Intrepid Ibex can save a session or not? If this is a bug its a major one, a worthless upgrade
[19:56] <RenzoreK> Might need to go back to Hardy
[19:56] <RenzoreK> :(
[19:56] <snuitje> nande12: it shouldn't
[19:56] <typhon> hey guys can someone tell me for what is this software names SWAT ?
[19:56] <Scunizi> lucax: been running a spreadsheet all morning and numbers are swimming in my head.
[19:56] <VSpike> lucax: i366 is a 386 compatible cpu.. i686 is pentium 2 IIRC
[19:57] <nathan42100> no one can help me?
[19:57] <kibibyte> kibibyte> why aptitude add Translation-en_US to every repository path when im performing update?
 it doesnt work then
[19:57] <VSpike> lucax: it refers to how the software has been compiled.  i686 compiled software will not run on 386, 486 or early pentium, but will run faster on newer CPU's cos it uses newer features of them.
[19:57] <lucax> VSpike, intel centrino duo which one of those it would be?
[19:58] <typhon> hey guys can someone tell me for what is this software names SWAT ?
[19:58] <cwillu> nathan42100, have you rebooted yet?
[19:58] <snuitje> typhon: Samba Web Administration Tool
[19:58] <VSpike> lucax: pretty much anything you have unless you are seriously into old hardware would be 686 compat
[19:58] <Lakota> hmm no luck finding it in the devices with guest XP running
[19:58] <typhon> snuitje and what is samba :) ( im sorry i m new in linux )
[19:58] <Lakota> I even disabled 2.0 support and tried
[19:58] <VSpike> lucax: so if you have a choice, probably i686 is the answer.  but it might depend on the exact question :)
[19:58] <ubuntu> greetings everyone! I am having a slight problem with installation; whether I'm trying to install off of the official discs(ubuntu or kubuntu) or my own I get this error message: The installer encountered an error copying files to the hard disk:
[19:58] <ubuntu> [Errno 5] Input/output error
[19:58] <ubuntu> This is often due to a faulty CD/DVD disk or drive, or a faulty hard disk. It may help to clean the CD/DVD, to burn the CD/DVD at a lower speed, to clean the CD/DVD drive lens (cleaning kits are often available from electronics suppliers), to check whether the hard disk is old and in need of replacement, or to move the system to a cooler
[19:58] <snuitje> !google | typhon
[19:59] <typhon> thanks
[19:59] <typhon> i will do it
[19:59] <snuitje> good luck :)
[19:59] <rtark> hello, can anyone tell me if the CompTIA Linux+ cert is worth the effort?
[19:59] <edi_99> Hi guys, can you please tell me what does this do: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-generic
[19:59] <ubuntu> I don't know what else to do..I was previously using Kubuntu 8.04
[19:59] <typhon> i was lazy lil to google :)
[20:00] <snuitje> rtark: if linux+ is like aries then no ^^
[20:00] <Scunizi> Lakota: ok.. you might need to restart to get vbox right after the fstab changes. but before you do that go to System>Admin>Users/groups and unlock. Click Manage Groups, then vboxusers, then properties and make sure your user name has a check mark next to it.
[20:00] <snuitje> rtark: can recommand LPI 101, which you can upgrade to Ubuntu Certified Professional
[20:00] <rtark> what is aries?
[20:00] <nande12> snuitje: drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 4096 Jan  1  1970 foo
[20:00] <graft> so, the fonts in mozilla are really screwed up - the letters are all different heights, but i can't figure out why
[20:01] <RenzoreK> /quit Selfish ignoring people. Help answer questions to noobs
[20:01] <snuitje> graft: try installing msttcorefonts
[20:01] <graft> snuitje: why?
[20:01] <nathan42100> cwillu yeah, I can do it again though
[20:01] <ubuntu> I'm currently on the xubuntu live disc but I received the same error message
[20:01] <snuitje> graft: gets you commonly used fonts on the web
[20:01] <graft> snuitje: that won't help the current fonts render properly, will it?
[20:02] <snuitje> i don't like the package because it's "encumbered" but it helps for proper fonts on webpages
[20:02] <snuitje> graft: ?
[20:02] <nathan42100> ugh
[20:02] <nathan42100> plain gnome is ugly
[20:02] <graft> snuitje: i have a problem with a font not rendering correctly... how will installing a different font help?
[20:03] <snuitje> !pm | rtark
[20:03] <snuitje> graft: ohh
[20:03] <snuitje> graft: what kind of font is it? ot? postscript? tt?
[20:03] <rtark> sorry everyone
[20:03] <snuitje> no worries
[20:04] <nathan42100> after running a few updates last night (and restarting at least once today), gnome is in it's default theme. I tried changing it to the ubuntu themes but it has no effect. Any ideas on fixing?
[20:04] <graft> snuitje: i'm not sure.. whatever the default serif font is
[20:04] <agoole> how do I find out what kind of video card i have ?
[20:04] <snuitje> graft: that's dejavu iirc
[20:04] <soros> I have an ide hard drive in my case but I don't know the name assigned to it in /dev/  .. the bootup log in dmesg is gone... how would I figure out its assigned name?
[20:05] <Besogon> agoole: lspci
[20:05] <snuitje> graft: what's the problem, kerning, rasterisation or something else?
[20:05] <]{53> soros: is it the only ide drive in your system?
[20:05] <soros> ]{53: i have a sata drive but ubuntu is installed on it
[20:06] <snuitje> nande12: other thing you could try is remounting with umask=000
[20:06] <]{53> soros: you didn't answer my question.
[20:06] <]{53> soros: if it is it should be /dev/hda
[20:07] <soros> ]{53: well., its the only ide hard drive, there is a oh... okay, I know how to find it
[20:07] <graft> snuitje: something else... just some of the letters are strange sizes... the 'o' is much taller than the loop of the 'd', etc.
[20:07] <snuitje> graft: hmm weird
[20:08] <snuitje> graft: i dont see that in abiword
[20:09] <GodfatherofEire> Could somebody help me out with a problem with GDM?
[20:09] <snuitje> graft: might be gecko-specific
[20:10] <snuitje> graft: is it on all webpages? it might be a css bug
[20:10] <snuitje> !ask | GodfatherofEire
[20:10] <GodfatherofEire> Ok, somehow I just booted myself out of GDM and shut down X11 completely by incorrectly modifying the xorg.conf file with a line of code that was supposed to work
[20:10] <snuitje> sounds more like an x.org problem then
[20:11] <GodfatherofEire> Well, I cant log in, so I need a bit of help here
[20:11] <graft> snuitje: it's not a css bug. might be gecko-specific
[20:11] <graft> snuitje: if i set firefox to use 'dejavu serif' for serif fonts, it works
[20:11] <GodfatherofEire> For that matter, I can only access my comp from the restoration mode
[20:11] <graft> snuitje: if i set firefox to use 'serif' for serif fonts, it gets messed up
[20:11] <snuitje> graft: ah, so it could've used bitstream serif
[20:12] <captainc> anyone notice a difference between DejaVu and Bistream fonts?
[20:12] <GodfatherofEire> I REALLY need some help with this one
[20:12] <mobile> hi
[20:12] <captainc> cause I dont
[20:12] <]{53> GodfatherofEire: You didn't back up the original?
[20:12] <mobile> Why wont my gparted  format my external disk ntfs?      There is an otpions for it but its greyed out
[20:13] <lagann_> GodfatherofEire, are you using ATI video card?
[20:13] <GodfatherofEire> Lagann_ yep
[20:13] <snuitje> graft: i still dont see it on any of the serif fonts i have installed
[20:13] <]{53> GodfatherofEire: Check to make sure there isn't a backup in the directory. There should be if you edited with gedit.
[20:13] <graft> snuitje: nein, if i set it to bitstream vera serif it works fine
[20:13] <Vinceman> are all the icons used in ubuntu svg's?? if so, totally amazing man that so much info can be saved in such a format
[20:13] <snuitje> captainc: iirc bitstream is more suitable for print, dejavu more for screen reading
[20:13] <lagann_> GodfatherofEire, you could log in before, right?
[20:13] <graft> snuitje: what does 'serif' point to?
[20:13] <GodfatherofEire> ]{53, I did, and where would this backup be
[20:13] <GodfatherofEire> lagann_ yes
[20:14] <]{53> GodfatherofEire: in the same dir with a ~
[20:14] <nande12> snuijte: umask=000 didn't work either.  Do you think that if i ran usb-creator with a non-empty usb stick the existing dirs would be writable?
[20:14] <lagann_> what happened? did you change anything in the xorg.conf?
[20:14] <lagann_> GodfatherofEire*
[20:14] <captainc> snuitje: oh ok, thank you for the clarification on that.
[20:14] <GodfatherofEire> lagann_ yes I did, Well, tried to
[20:14] <GodfatherofEire> Ok, ]{53, I'll try that
[20:14] <nande12> I am going to try that.
[20:15] <GodfatherofEire> ]{53, how would I re-name that file though?
[20:16] <NoiseEee> exit
[20:16] <typhon> hey people i wanna ask you a question i wanna know how to control my other pc from an other pc ?
[20:16] <NoiseEee> heh
[20:16] <]{53> GodfatherofEire: cp old.file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:16] <GodfatherofEire> lagann_ I modified it with a line of code from launchpad, that was supposed to enable hardware accel
[20:16] <]{53> typhon: do you need GUI or shell access?
[20:16] <Vinceman> what is the upper limit of installed programs in ubuntu? is it much higher than that of windows?
[20:16] <typhon> shell access
[20:17] <GodfatherofEire> ]{53, didnt work
[20:17] <kibibyte> anyone tell me why fuking aptituude after i run update it, does not showwing me maven2 package. (i have universe repository in sources list)
[20:17] <SamuraiSW> does anyone know if kontact or korganizer has the ability to send an appointment reminer via e-mail
[20:17] <snuitje> graft: i found out how to check that
[20:17] <mobile> Why wont my gparted  format my external disk ntfs?      There is an otpions for it but its greyed out
[20:17] <]{53> GodfatherofEire: was there a backup? Did you take the offending line out of the file?
[20:17] <snuitje> graft: xfd -fa serif
[20:18] <GodfatherofEire> ]{53, Both
[20:18] <snuitje> graft: on my system it's DejaVu Serif
[20:18] <snuitje> graft: but firefox may have it's own idea about that
[20:18] <GodfatherofEire> ]{53, There's xorg.conf~ and xorg.conf, which I remodded without the line
[20:18] <]{53> GodfatherofEire: Try 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[20:18] <mobile> anyone?
[20:19] <lagann_> typhon, using what server or client?
[20:19] <kenot> i can' use my webcam on my ubuntu. does anyone can help me. i have acer aspire 4520
[20:19] <steel_lady> ]{53 I finally finished resizing the disk, now I have to assign partitions but this installation program for ubuntu is so confusing, I need help asigning
[20:19] <lagann_> GodfatherofEire, I got another computer that uses the ATI video card
[20:19] <typhon> lagann server
[20:19] <graft> snuitje: yeah firefox is doing something weird and messed up
[20:19] <kindofabuzz> Intrepid Network Manager. when setting a static IP and setting netmask to 255.255.255.0 it always reverts to 24. what's up with that. doesn't sem like it breaks it, just in NM it says 24 instead of 255.255.255.0
[20:20] <snuitje> mobile: if you can format it fat32, convert.exe on windows will make it ntfs
[20:20] <]{53> steel_lady: what are your linux patitions again?
[20:20] <GodfatherofEire> Bloody hell
[20:20] <graft> snuitje: i think it might be confusing itself...
[20:20] <mobile> no i have no windows
[20:20] <GodfatherofEire> ]{53, couldn't start the X Server due to internal system error
[20:20] <]{53> typhon: u need SSH: # sudo apt-get install openssh-server openssh-client
[20:20] <kibibyte> anyone tell me why fuking aptituude after i run update it, does not showwing me maven2 package. (i have universe repository in sources list)
[20:20] <steel_lady> I did one for linux system, then working partition and storage
[20:20] <]{53> GodfatherofEire: u already ran the reconfigure?
[20:21] <typhon> but my other computer has just windows xp
[20:21] <typhon> is does work anyway?
[20:21] <Lunar_Lamp> How do I enable Tracker to scan thunderbird emails?
[20:21] <GodfatherofEire> ]{53, yes
[20:21] <]{53> typhon: it is ok, you can access it with PuTTy.
[20:21] <typhon> with putty ???
[20:22] <typhon> what is a putty?
[20:22] <kibibyte> HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPpp
[20:22] <LjL> !caps | kibibyte
[20:22] <]{53> typhon: google it.
[20:22] <kibibyte> so dont ignore me
[20:22] <pim_> kibibyte you must wait patiently until someone helps you
[20:22] <]{53> kibibyte: ppl are volunteering here, don't get so pushy.
[20:22] <LjL> !attitude | kibibyte
[20:22] <mtinman> typhon: The application for ssh.
[20:23] <typhon> o ok
[20:23] <mtinman> typhon: in Windoze.
[20:23] <Neaai> kibibyte: you could see what does:  dpkg -l *maven*
[20:23] <]{53> Anyone else have a suggestion for GodfatherofEire? He has borked his xorg.conf file.
[20:23] <steel_lady> ]{53, now I am at the step Prepare Partitions and I have to assign partitions I already have. can you tell me what should I do there?
[20:23] <LjL> Neaai: actually, that won't work...
[20:23] <GodfatherofEire> ]{53, I think thats an understatement
[20:23] <kibibyte> Neaai, No packages found matching *maven*.
[20:23] <kindofabuzz> kibibyte, do you mean you cannot search for it? it's a known bug, do a sudo update-apt-xapian-index, then restart synaptic
[20:23] <LjL> kibibyte: does "apt-cache show maven2" show it?
[20:24] <]{53> steel_lady: u need to mount the main partition as /
[20:24] <kibibyte> LjL, no
[20:24] <]{53> steel_lady: all the system files will go there
[20:24] <SamuraiSW> does anyone know of a program that will e-mail you appointment reminders
[20:24] <SamuraiSW> ?
[20:24] <SamuraiSW> does gmail do that?
[20:24] <kibibyte> update-apt-xapian-index: command not found
[20:24] <Neaai> LjL: it works for me when I want to see what's say,  sql related.  So I do:  dpkg -l *sql*
[20:24] <steel_lady> the ubuntu partition, no? and the working partition I put /home, <]{53>
[20:24] <Finn_> SamuraiSW: GMail does that for me every day
[20:25] <kibibyte> kindofabuzz, what you mean
[20:25] <]{53> steel_lady: what do you mean - 'working partition'?
[20:25] <kibibyte> kindofabuzz, maven2 appears not to be in repository but its there!
[20:25] <kindofabuzz> kibibyte, when you search in synaptic do you get results?
[20:25] <kibibyte> kindofabuzz, no results for maven
[20:25] <kibibyte> in synaptic
[20:25] <]{53> steel_lady: you have to have one partition mount as "/"
[20:25] <kindofabuzz> kibibyte, do a sudo update-apt-xapian-index
[20:25] <LjL> kibibyte: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:25] <LjL> kindofabuzz: what is update-apt-xapian-index?
[20:26] <nothing12345> Hi, does anybody knows, why all programms do not react in ubuntu?
[20:26] <nothing12345> *know
[20:26] <SamuraiSW> Finn_: thanx, i was looking for a program that would do that, but i think its allot better to store the info online as apposed to a hard drive
[20:26] <]{53> steel_lady: I would recommend the storage one for '/home/'
[20:26] <kindofabuzz> LjL, rebuilds the synaptic database? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/288797
 I need partition where the programs will record their result of work (I am running some astro packages)
[20:26] <Finn_> SamuraiSW: local e-mail is yesterday =) calendar too
[20:26] <snuitje> nothing12345: they aren't chemicals? did your session freeze?
[20:26] <ces> Hi... I'm opening a port with iptables... but I have to do it, every time I reboot. Could someone please tell me how to automate this?
[20:26] <LjL> kindofabuzz: and what's the Synaptic database? what does it have to do with the database that aptitude uses?
[20:27] <kindofabuzz> LjL, i've had to do it several times, do a search for a basic package, no results, run that command and then it's there
[20:27] <]{53> steel_lady: I guess what I am saying is that you have to have one partition mounted as "/" and the rest are entirely up to you...
[20:27] <kindofabuzz> LjL, tdoesn't synaptic use aptitude?
[20:27] <snuitje> ces: you can place it in /etc/rc.local
[20:27] <LjL> kindofabuzz: absolutely not
[20:27] <]{53> steel_lady: I would recommend the one that has the important data to be /home.
[20:27] <snuitje> ces: gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local
[20:27] <GodfatherofEire> ]{53, this might help: It says that there's no screens found
[20:27] <LjL> kindofabuzz: this update-apt-xapian-index command doesn't even exist, on Hardy
[20:27] <jimmygoon> How can I override the current DNS server? It seems... more confusing wit hthe new network manager
 and how do I tell it that on ntfs partition I have win?
[20:28] <kibibyte> LjL, http://pastebin.com/m64fc1cc5
[20:28] <kibibyte> kindofabuzz, http://pastebin.com/m64fc1cc5
[20:28] <GodfatherofEire> ]{53, how would I edit the xorg from the terminal
[20:28] <kindofabuzz> LjL, well they probably both use https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/288797
[20:28] <kindofabuzz> oops
[20:28] <]{53> steel_lady: It should auto detect that.
[20:28] <kindofabuzz> they probably both use xapian
[20:28] <nothing12345> snuitje: I don't know, everyday, after 2h uptime, many program will not react... then I restart X, but gnome will not load after login. it does not react.  I restart again X, start XFCE, and its running well. But now, Other programs do not react :'(
[20:28] <]{53> GodfatherofEire: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:28] <LjL> kindofabuzz: hardly... anyway, his sources.list shows he's on Hardy, so he won't have that command to begin with
 it did not
[20:29] <]{53> steel_lady: It will when it goes to setup the GRUB.
[20:29] <LjL> kibibyte: what is this "web" component that your sources mention?
[20:29] <kibibyte> LjL, no idea:(
[20:29] <GodfatherofEire> ]{53, how would I save the file?
[20:29] <kibibyte> i tried to switch surces
[20:29] <LjL> kibibyte, remove it. every instance of it.
[20:30] <nothing12345> Should I kill all gnome processes?
[20:30] <kibibyte> to usa servers or other mirros
[20:30] <]{53> GodfatherofEire: Ctrl+X then y
[20:30] <snuitje> nothing12345: you could try ps x and kill all of those except your shell -_-'
[20:30] <kibibyte> LjL, ok hold on
[20:30] <lagann_> nothing12345, killall gdm on terminal if that's what you're looking for
[20:31] <mobile> Why wont my gparted  format my external disk ntfs?      There is an otpions for it but its greyed out
[20:31] <snuitje> nothing12345: i'm wondering why it would happen in the first place rather then how to remedy the results
[20:31] <snuitje> nothing12345: do you have a screensaver enabled?
[20:32] <nothing12345> How could I kill rythmbox? It does not react :(
[20:32] <snuitje> nothing12345: power management?
[20:32] <nothing12345> killall rythmbox does not work
[20:32] <noriyuki> does anybody know about a calculator for ubuntu that can do calculus operations?!
[20:32] <GodfatherofEire> Ok, thanks ]{53, now it works
[20:32] <LjL> nothing12345: killall -9 rhythmbox then
[20:32] <melol2> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6257737
[20:32] <Static--> can you turn the gnome GDK into your lock screen ?
[20:32] <LjL> nothing12345: or just use xkill
[20:32] <melol2> can anyone help with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6257737
[20:32] <]{53> GodfatherofEire: You got the GUI to run
[20:32] <LjL> !info qualculate-gtk | noriyuki
[20:32] <GodfatherofEire> Apparently the option didnt save properly when I /thought/ I fixed it
[20:32] <GodfatherofEire> Yep
[20:32] <LjL> !info qalculate-gtk | noriyuki
[20:32] <snuitje> Static--: ???
[20:33] <kibibyte> LjL, it works!!!!!!
[20:33] <]{53> GodfatherofEire: Yea!
[20:33] <kibibyte> LjL, why there was web word
[20:33] <noriyuki> LjL, lets see. thanks !
[20:33] <nothing12345> snuitje: gnome screensaver is enabled, but I have never seen it
[20:33] <GodfatherofEire> ]{53, thanks for the help
[20:33] <Static--> snuitje : the login screen, into a lock screen
[20:33] <snuitje> mobile: did you unmount the partition?
[20:33] <LjL> kibibyte: how would i know... you put there, most likely
[20:33] <LjL> put it* there
[20:33] <nothing12345> w8, pls i have to kill all gnome processes
[20:33] <]{53> GodfatherofEire: I'll put it on your tab. ;)
[20:33] <snuitje> Static--: run gdmflexiserver
[20:34] <kibibyte> LjL, no i think synaptic added it
[20:34] <mobile> snuitic: i deleted the partion  its all clean now
[20:34] <mobile> just need to create ntfs
[20:34] <jimmygoon> !dns | jimmygoon
[20:34] <melol2> I have  window placement error that has been going on for the past year or so. And it is progressing to be more and more annoying
[20:34] <typhon> hey people in this nice room i have a question i m using right now linux ubuntu but i have also windows xp but i wanna use it on ubuntu at the same time in other window is it possible ?
[20:34] <kibibyte> LjL, in synaptic you have option HTTP when choosing server
[20:34] <GodfatherofEire> ]{53, Before I go though, you know of any way to fix up compiz that /doesn't/ mod the xorg? (thats what got me in this mess)
[20:34] <Static--> snuitje : perfect thanks
[20:34] <typhon> hey people in this nice room i have a question i m using right now linux ubuntu but i have also windows xp but i wanna use it on ubuntu at the same time in other window is it possible ?
[20:34] <]{53> GodfatherofEire: I never had to modify xorg.conf to get compiz running....did you?
[20:34] <lagann_> !VM typhon
[20:35] <LjL> typhon: not without using a virtual machine, which is unsafe to use on a real partition generally speaking
[20:35] <lagann_> oops
[20:35] <lagann_> !VM | typhon
[20:35] <GodfatherofEire> ]{53, I was trying to get the refresh rate problem fixed with OpenGL programs
[20:35] <flip> hey --- i just installed a new ubuntu box here at my desk... and connected it to my kvm... anyone have any experience w/ a usb kvm and ubuntu?
[20:35] <jimmygoon> *Sigh* that was a useless factoid, anyone got any tips on overriding the DNS settings in the new network manager?
[20:35] <typhon> thanks people you guys help a lot
[20:35] <flip> if i boot the machine w/ the kvm on the ub. box it works perfectly
[20:35] <flip> if i switch to my windows box
[20:35] <flip> it works
[20:35] <flip> then switch back
[20:35] <flip> and its dead
[20:35] <]{53> GodfatherofEire: I also have a refresh rate issue. I have 60Hz when it is suppose to be 75Hz. :*(
[20:35] <FloodBot2> flip: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:35] <flip> :F
[20:35] <LjL> jimmygoon: "tips"? depends, the way i did it was by removing both network-manager and resolvconf ;)
[20:36] <melol2> I have  window placement problem that has been going on for the past year or so. And it is progressing to be more and more annoying. can anyone help?
[20:36] <typhon> i have a question is it simple to hack a web site with a linux ubuntu or is it simple with windows xp ?
[20:36] <truthslave> i need to run windows apps what do i do?
[20:36] <|ntegra|> (in /etc/fstab) how can I make one partition usable for users?
[20:36] <kibibyte> LjL, ths web word was added when i performed system update
[20:36] <snuitje> !ontopic | typhon
[20:36] <kibibyte> i didnt do it
[20:36] <GodfatherofEire> ]{53, not like that though, like it'll flicker every second or two, and moving the window causes a false image to remain on the screen
[20:36] <bastid_raZor> !wine | truthslave
[20:36] <nothing12345> Damn I could not killem all
[20:36] <]{53> GodfatherofEire: Only when you have compiz enabled?
[20:37] <cwillu> typhon, did you want us to report you to the authorities now or after you've learned how to haxor?
[20:37] <jimmygoon> LjL, heh, not feeling that uh... adventurous today
[20:37] <nothing12345> LOL
[20:37] <nothing12345> I killed screensaver and powermanager, the programms are working now!
[20:37] <GodfatherofEire> ]{53, yep, that or metacity with effects.
[20:37] <jimmygoon> just need to get around the opendns crap my dad put on my network at home :/
[20:37] <brspy> alguem pode me informar como eu vejo se o drive de video do meu notebook foi instalado?
[20:37] <le00> i have a problem with firestarter. it keeps saying: External network device eth0 is not ready. Aborting..
[20:37] <nothing12345> But firefox will not start
[20:37] <truthslave> thanks for the link
[20:37] <]{53> GodfatherofEire: What kind of graphics card do you have?
[20:37] <cheater_> can someone tell me how to get murrine working?
[20:37] <typhon> cwillu it was a simple question
[20:37] <franz_> hallo
[20:37] <GodfatherofEire> ]{53, ATi X200M
[20:37] <LjL> jimmygoon, i don't know about intrepid, but in previous versions i think the package responsible for the resolv.conf overwriting was "resolvconf", not "network-manager", and one way you could force specific DNS server was to edit them in, uhm... the DHCP configuration file, possibly. or something.
[20:37] <|ntegra|> !/etc/fstab
[20:38] <kibibyte> LjL, so if anyone will have problems with aptitude its word  web
[20:38] <LjL> !br | brspy
[20:38] <|ntegra|> bummer
[20:38] <snuitje> !english | brspy
[20:38] <melol2> I have  window placement problem that has been going on for the past year or so. And it is progressing to be more and more annoying. can anyone help? It is putting a window continually in the very bottom right hand corner so I have to switch desktops to move it into view. Not every program, just that specific one
[20:38] <LjL> kibibyte: that's a bit of a sweeping statement... certainly, having that word in sources.list will result in a broken sources.list, that's for sure
[20:38] <GodfatherofEire> ]{53, forgot to mention that I'm runnin on a notebook
[20:38] <agampher> question: whats the best version of ubuntu to run as a thin client (will be using terminal server client)?
[20:38] <melol2> each time i run it it gets further and further into the corner
[20:38] <nothing12345> What is "gnome-screensaver" and "gnome-power-manager" ?
[20:38] <demon_> i have just installed ubuntu 8.10 and it cant find my camera!!
[20:38] <]{53> GodfatherofEire: Do you know what ATI driver you have enabled?
[20:38] <jimmygoon> LjL, well, before you had to use the network-admin rtaher than the new nm-applet... but it has all been combined now into one application
[20:38] <kibibyte> LjL, but it wa added by ubuntu i didn do it
[20:38] <GodfatherofEire> ]{53, fglrx I think
[20:39] <melol2> I have  window placement problem that has been going on for the past year or so. And it is progressing to be more and more annoying. can anyone help? It is putting a window continually in the very bottom right hand corner so I have to switch desktops to move it into view. Not every program, just that specific one
[20:39] <thedoc^> is there a workaround for 8.10 and nvidia geforce cards (laptop) ? I tried updating the restricted drivers - not sure if it's done correctly / i had an external crt monitor connected to the lappy - but now the crt display isn't being shown/nor is it being displayed
[20:39] <LjL> kibibyte: ok, i don't know why that could be - i'm just saying that does mean that *any* problem people will have with aptitude is due to that...
[20:39] <|ntegra|> demon_: ouch, its usually pretty good with hardware
[20:39] <]{53> GodfatherofEire: Sorry, I don't know much about ATI cards...
[20:39] <GodfatherofEire> ]{53, no problem. Thanks for helpin me out though
[20:40] <kibibyte> LjL, but it was hard to find couse aptitude didnt mention any error with dowloading sources
[20:40] <]{53> GodfatherofEire: You're welcome.
[20:40] <melol2> I have  window placement problem that has been going on for the past year or so. And it is progressing to be more and more annoying. can anyone help? It is putting a window continually in the very bottom right hand corner so I have to switch desktops to move it into view. Not every program, just that specific one. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6257737
[20:40] <LjL> kibibyte: that's strange
[20:40] <]{53> steel_lady: did you sort your partitions out?
[20:40] <nothing12345> WWhat number should I use to kill processes with top?
[20:40] <LjL> kibibyte: how do you know it was added when you did system update, anyway?
[20:40] <demon_> |ntegra|, so i should install 8.04 or i can fix it
 what should I do qith fat16 drivers partition that comes from factory? should I mark it as fat16 and put /drivers or should I leave 'do not use'?
[20:40] <LjL> nothing12345: the PID
[20:40] <eszetka> #bash
[20:40] <demon_> and why does my ubuntu makes sounds when i type
[20:40] <nothing12345> No
[20:40] <]{53> nothing12345: try ps aux | grep programname
[20:41] <nothing12345> With wich killnumber
[20:41] <nothing12345> top
[20:41] <melol2> I have  window placement problem that has been going on for the past year or so. And it is progressing to be more and more annoying. can anyone help? It is putting a window continually in the very bottom right hand corner so I have to switch desktops to move it into view. Not every program, just that specific one. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6257737
[20:41] <nothing12345> then k
[20:41] <]{53> and it willl be the second number.
[20:41] <nothing12345> and it ask: with wich number I wanna kill the process
[20:41] <LjL> nothing12345: still the PID.
[20:41] <|ntegra|> demon_: sorry I don't know
[20:41] <bri-h> melol2:  Have you tried turning desktop effects off to see if compiz is the problem?
[20:41] <kibibyte> LjL, couse aptitude stopped woring after i click update system icon in systray
[20:41] <kibibyte> or soemthing
[20:42] <melol2> bri-h, yeah ive tried turning everything off. hasn't helped
[20:42] <]{53> nothing12345: Yes, it is the first number in top.
[20:42] <nothing12345> No,  I mean:  I type top.  I push "k" .  it says: PID to kill, I typed in the PID. Now it says:Kill PID 19864 with signal:
[20:42] <melol2> bri-h, for some reason, it only has this problem with the program BlueJ
[20:42] <bri-h> melol2:  If it's only with that program, it sounds like a bug in that program.
[20:42] <LjL> nothing12345: 9, if you want to force quit it
[20:42] <]{53> steel_lady: I would not use that partition.
[20:42] <nothing12345> ty
[20:42] <melol2> bri-h, it didnt used to do it before
[20:42] <flip> i dont know what to do here.. i mean its like somethings wrong w/ hotplug? if i boot the ubutnu box w/ the kvm selected on it... its fine.. i switch to xp.. fine... i switch back to linux and i have no kbd and no mouse connectivity
[20:43] <flip> anyone ever have this happen?
[20:43] <LjL> nothing12345, "man kill" will list signals, their number, and their meanings.
[20:43] <xenith_> Is anyone here good with openoffice calc or know the best place to talk with someone about formulas?
[20:43] <lagann_> melol2, the compiz could be doing that
[20:43] <]{53> flip: u using usb or ps2?
[20:43] <Matt^> :o
[20:43] <flip> ]{53: all usb
 if i leave it unassigned, wouldn t it mean i would not be able to access it?
[20:43] <bri-h> melol2: well if bluej updated to a new version, it could be a new bug.  Sorry I'm not familiar with bluej
[20:43] <flip> ]{53: no ps2 at all.
[20:43] <melol2> i've even tried overriding it with compiz Window Placement. It has no effect
[20:43] <]{53> steel_lady: that is right
[20:44] <]{53> flip: what kind of KVM? make and model?
[20:44] <bakarat> i'm having some problems in ubuntu 8.10 with nvidia for my HDMI connected monitor, the background looks nice, but everything on it is...well...shaky
[20:44] <LjL> xenith_: how about #openoffice.org
[20:44] <melol2> bri-h, haven't updated it
[20:44] <melol2> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6257737 has pictures
[20:44] <flip> ]{53: Raritan SW4-USB-PEINC
[20:44] <]{53> bakarat: sounds like you don't have the driver enabled.
[20:44] <melol2> anyone with similar problems?
[20:44] <bakarat> ]{53, i do
[20:44] <bakarat> ]{53, and i'm using nvidia-settings to configure the screen
[20:45] <]{53> bakarat: it sounds like the refresh rate is off.
[20:45] <bakarat> ]{53, note that the HDMI is in fact the second monitor, not the main
[20:45] <bakarat> ]{53, it is set at 50 hz
[20:45] <lagann_> melol2, I had the same problem until I re-enabled the advanced desktop effects in appearance
[20:45] <]{53> bakarat: and what is the monitors native refresh rate?
[20:45] <demon_> why does my ubuntu makes sounds when i type !!!
[20:45] <nothing12345> Hmm  I killed gnome -helpe now it says in ps aux :  [gnome-pty-helpe] <defunct>
[20:45] <]{53> flip: I am still looking
[20:45] <bakarat> ]{53, not a clue (monitor works great through RGB btw)
[20:46] <flip>  ]{53 thank you :)
[20:46] <snuitje> demon_: bleeps?
[20:46] <flip> <-- googling to
[20:46] <xenith_> thanks, i was on the openoffice channel without the .org and there were 4 people :-/
[20:46] <]{53> bakarat: u need to look on manufacturers site.
[20:46] <demon_> yes snuitje
[20:47] <bakarat> ]{53, well, the nvidia-settings thing only gives me two options: 50 hz & 60 hz, they both end up looking the same
[20:47] <nothing12345> how could I deactivate "gnome-screensaver" ?
[20:47] <snuitje> demon_: check your ctrl and alt buttons, they might be stuck, try pressing all the buttons on the keyboard, failing that, try opening a text editor see if it happens there and if you can type correctly, failing that, try logging out and press ctrl+alt+bs to force X to restart
[20:47] <LjL> xenith_: the ".org" is part of the openoffice program name, for some reason
[20:47] <]{53> flip: did you try a different kvm?/
[20:48] <snuitje> snuitje: usually it has to do with stuck keys
[20:48] <snuitje> i mean
[20:48] <snuitje> demon_: usuallu its stuck keys
[20:48] <flip> ]{53: its the only one i have.. i have 10 of them :)
[20:48] <melol2> lagann_, had no effect
[20:48] <demon_> snuitje, what is BS
[20:48] <neivamar> ola
[20:48] <neivamar> ablais espanish?
[20:48] <snuitje> demon_: backspace
[20:48] <LjL> !es | neivamar
[20:48] <neivamar> ke deis?
[20:48] <neivamar> kiu parlot?
[20:48] <nothing12345> Im going to start gnome again :D
[20:48] <LjL> neivamar: /join #ubuntu-es
[20:49] <demon_> snuitje,  nope its just in Xchat
[20:49] <snuitje> weird
[20:50] <]{53> flip: that is not the correct model name
[20:50] <kibibyte> http://www.thacker.ca/linuxgirl.jpg
[20:50] <snuitje> maybe if you open another xchat? or does it happen straight from the start?
[20:50] <[a1]> !en
[20:50] <flip> ]{53: i read it right off the box
[20:50] <melol2> I have  window placement problem that has been going on for the past year or so. And it is progressing to be more and more annoying. can anyone help? It is putting a window continually in the very bottom right hand corner so I have to switch desktops to move it into view. Not every program, just that specific one. pics: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6257737
[20:50] <melol2> this is very annoying because I am in a java class and it constantly is slowing me down
[20:50] <flip> ]{53: let me check raritan's site
[20:50] <Myrtti> LjL: thank you
[20:51] <\slash> how can i search for wireless networks?
[20:51] <]{53> flip: I found it.
[20:51] <bw\> hmm, where does ubuntu save the config file for sambashares done with nautilus? (not /etc/samba/smb.conf)
[20:51] <le00> melol2: seems nobody knows... search with google
[20:51] <sturdy1171> I have an HP Pavilion zv6130us laptop that I just loaded ubuntu on and I'm unable to get the wireless working.  Can anyone help?  Thanks!
[20:51] <agampher> question: whats the best version of ubuntu to run as a thin client (will be using terminal server client)?
[20:52] <flip> ]{53: ok.
[20:52] <snuitje> agampher: any LTS version, so you have to upgrade less often
[20:52] <nothing12345> Heeelp me, I tryed to start gnome, but it doesnt react, I started again sfce, but know cpu usage is 100%,  top says:
[20:53] <nothing12345>  5277 root      20   0  7764 2420 1664 S 96.5  0.2   3:26.59 console-kit-dae
[20:53] <nothing12345> I can't kill that process
[20:53] <agampher> snuitje: well yeah, i meant that has the fewest items running by default
[20:53] <snuitje> agampher: JeOS, but maybe that's not what you're looking for
[20:54] <nothing12345> How could I kill "﻿console-kit-dae "
[20:54] <]{53> flip: Sorry, I am drawing a 404.
[20:54] <noriyuki> LjL,  Okay this is wonderful but how can I set this program to display: sin x/cos x as 'tan x'
[20:54] <flip> ]{53: :\
[20:54] <le00> where does ubuntu save the config file for sambashares done with nautilus? (not /etc/samba/smb.conf)
[20:55] <agampher> snuitje: something like that with the desktop version would be nice, perhaps one that can run rdesktop without needing the ubuntu gui
[20:55] <lagann_> yes, le00, if you put it to remember the user name and password
[20:56] <le00> ok
[20:56] <snuitje> agampher: you could install xdm, xserver-xorg and rdesktop on jeos, then write a .xsession that runs rdesktop
[20:56] <agampher> snuitje: thanks, ill give that a shot
[20:57] <bw\> lagann_: ?
[20:57] <bw\> lagann_: there must be a configfile somewhere which gets read by samba
[20:57] <mobile> mobile
[20:57] <LjL> noriyuki: you can't i'm afraid. algebra program normally normalize (put not intended) tan into sin/cos. in fact, if you type "tan(x)" it'll output "sin(x)/cos(x)"
[20:57] <lagann_> bw\, don't know where it is, sorry
[20:57] <noriyuki> LjL, like if I enter diff (tan x) which is "find the derivative of tan x" the answer is 1 + ((sin x )^2/ (cos x)^2) instead of 1 + (tan x)^2 or just '(sec x) ^2'
[20:58] <snuitje> grep <name-of-share> .* ?
[20:58] <enl810d> how do I remove ubuntu-desktop and gdm so that when I start it goes straight into the tty?
[20:58] <noriyuki> LjL, jummm okay mmmmm gotcha thanks man
[20:58] <snuitje> maybe with -R if it's in a subdir
[20:58] <enl810d> anyone?
[20:58] <noriyuki> LjL, or woman jejej
[20:58] <hlfshell> so does anyone know why firefox freezes up whenever i load a .pdf file?
[20:58] <]{53> enl810d: you might consider just changing the default runlevel.
[20:58] <snuitje> enl810d: try update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[20:59] <sturdy1171> question: I have an HP Pavilion zv6130us laptop that I just loaded ubuntu on and I'm unable to get the wireless working.  Can anyone help?  Thanks!
[20:59] <le00> when i try to mount a hard disk, it says that only root can mount the disk. However, sometimes it works!
[20:59] <enl810d> ]{53: I want to remove ubuntu-desktop as i have wmii for my wm so I dont need it or gdm but I want to start my computer into tty
[20:59] <snuitje> external?
[20:59] <cwhiteii> i need some help trying to decompress a file inside of linux
[20:59] <lagann_> only root account can mount the disk(s)
[20:59] <enl810d> snuitje: just a sec lemme try that out
[21:00] <]{53> enl810d: gotacha, take snuitje's advice.
[21:00] <enl810d> ]{53: update-rc -f gdm removed it from startup. thanks. thats what I was looking for.
[21:00] <enl810d> thanks snuitje :D
[21:00] <snuitje> yw
[21:01] <Zeelot3k> hey guys, I'm using 64bit 8.10 ubuntu right now and I know I have kubuntu 8.10 32bit on another partition, how can I add this to grub? duno if the 32/64 bit difference is an issue with the kernel or whatever but I'm lost
[21:01] <le00> lagann_: but it's mounted on fstab!!!
[21:01] <filipe> ola pessoal
[21:01] <snuitje> !es | filipe
[21:01] <lagann_> yeah, the fstab gotta get the permission from root to get that device mounted
[21:01] <filipe> entao ta td bem???
[21:01] <le00> !br | filipe
[21:01] <LjL> !pt | filipe
[21:02] <filipe> what???
[21:02] <snuitje> a brute force approach hehe
[21:02] <LjL> filipe: escribe /join #ubuntu-br
[21:02] <snuitje> enscribe /part #ubuntu ^^
[21:02] <[a1]> lol
[21:02] <Baversjo> Hello, is there anything scponly-users can do with my server after a fresh install of scponly? What I found myself is that they cannot use SCP, no shell and they can use Tunneling. Is there anything more that they can/cannot do?
[21:03] <Zeelot3k> anyone? please
[21:03] <riddley> Hi I'm using 8.10 64bit on a desktop. If I reboot, I get a /etc/resolv.conf that's empty except for the line "# Generated by NetworkManager" I'm using DHCP that worked with Debian etc and is properly handing out nameserver info... I tried to use the NM gnome applet to set some nameservers, but it gives a "read only" error... tips?
[21:03] <snuitje> gee, have you tried mounting it to see if there's a menu.lst on it?
[21:04] <Ubuntunewb> hello everyone
[21:04] <]{53> hey Ubuntunewb
[21:04] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: me? /boot is a diff partition
[21:04] <]{53> Ubuntunewb: u need help?
[21:04] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: is /boot shared for both installs?
[21:04] <gerek> Hello there :)
[21:05] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: but ubuntu formatted it with it's own use
[21:05] <gerek> How can I get my options for compi ?
[21:05] <gerek> I'd like to set my 3d cube, what package do I have to install for do that ?
[21:05] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: did you reuse the /boot partition?
[21:05] <]{53> gerek: compiz?
[21:05] <Ubuntunewb> hey im trying to install the newest version of ubuntu on a machine and was wondering if someone might be able to answer some questions
[21:05] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: yes, ubuntu 64bit formatted it and used it
[21:05] <gerek> ]{53: well effects...
[21:05] <enl810d> I've done 'update-rc -f gdm remove' now I need to get rid of the 'ubuntu loading' screen while booting up and replace that with actual information on what is going on. How could I do that?
[21:06] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: nasty :D the initramfs probably isn't aware of that but you might get away with it anyway
[21:06] <lagann_> gerek, on terminal: try typing sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:06] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: try copying the ubuntu stanzas in menu.lst and change the root= value
[21:06] <]{53> gerek: compiz-settings-manager
[21:06] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: there is no root value just uuid stuff
[21:06] <]{53> woops
[21:06] <Ubuntunewb> yes 53 im getting tons of erros while installing ubuntu
[21:07] <]{53> gerek: lagann_ is right.
[21:07] <gerek> ]{53: thanx :) I'd also like to install drivers for my nvidia graphic card. How can I do that ?
[21:07] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: is there any way to fix this? can /boot be shared or do I need another partition for kubuntu's /boot
[21:07] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: hm, maybe with sudo fdisk -l you can see the numbers
[21:07] <]{53> Ubuntunewb: what errors?
[21:07] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: if I reinstall kubuntu, should I reuse /boot without formatting it? or is that just as bad?
[21:07] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: best thing is to copy your files from the other partition (in your /home/username/ ) and install kubuntu-desktop
[21:07] <]{53> gerek: what model nvidie card?
[21:07] <lagann_> gerek, then go to System > Preferences > Advanced Desktop Effects Settings
[21:08] <lagann_> after you have that packaged installed
[21:08] <Ubuntunewb> SQUASH FS error:sb_bread failed reading block 0x9d567
[21:08] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: best would be to use 1 partition and install both kubuntu and ubuntu in it, using the package manager so you dont let one wipe the other
[21:08] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: they can co-exist in a single install, it's just a matter of installing the package
[21:08] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: but I want a 32bit kubuntu and 64bit ubuntu
[21:08] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: ohh
[21:08] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: so I need to dual boot
[21:09] <gerek> ]{53: geforce go 7300
[21:09] <noriyuki> Is there a program that tells you hows your bluetooth mouse battery or Does Ubuntu notifies you by itself (automatically - no need of programs or drivers to do so)?
[21:09] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: you _could_ use debootstrap i guess but that's not funny either
[21:09] <gerek> lagann_: thanx :)
[21:09] <]{53> gerek: System - > Administration -> Hardware drivers
[21:10] <]{53> does it list an option there?
[21:10] <x-kent> I have problems setting up gforce 8600gt on ubuntu 8.10, when I try to install restricted driver it just pops up an empty error report. any ideas ?
[21:10] <Ubuntunewb> im getting tons of those plus SQUASHFS error:unable to read page, block 275500a0
[21:10] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: no idea what that is
[21:11] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: forget it -_-'
[21:11] <n8tuser> Ubuntunewb -> sounds like a bad cd burn,
[21:11] <Ubuntunewb> and then it just locks up and sits there
[21:11] <lagann_> Zeelot3k, the 64 ubuntu would give you a new list of partitions for you to boot from
[21:11] <Ubuntunewb> thats what i was thinking but i tested the media and its good
[21:11] <Ubuntunewb> it passed
[21:11] <noriyuki> Is there a program that tells you hows your bluetooth mouse battery or Does Ubuntu notifies you by itself (automatically - no need of programs or drivers to do so)?
[21:11] <symptom> how does one download all the packages available from ubuntu repositories
[21:11] <symptom> I basically want to make my own repository
[21:11] <gerek> ]{53: thank you :)
[21:11] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: maybe if you pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst and sudo fdisk -l i can have a look and write a stanza for kubuntu
[21:11] <Zeelot3k> lagann_: what?
[21:12] <paul68> rdw200169: are you here?
[21:12] <noriyuki> symptom, I dont get it xactly
[21:12] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: ok one second
[21:12] <n8tuser> Ububegin -> this is a new install or you have another linux running?
[21:12] <gerek> ]{53: what about repositories... where can I change repositories in command line, what's the path ?
[21:12] <]{53> Ubuntunewb: Did you check the integrity of your CD on the boot screen?
[21:12] <noriyuki> symptom, I mean, you want to download all the packages??? all of them?
[21:12] <symptom> I want to add my own hard drive to my sources.list... and have all the packages ubuntu offers on there....
[21:12] <altini> hello what is the command to install gcc on ubuntu please
[21:12] <symptom> yes
[21:12] <symptom> all of them
[21:12] <Ubuntunewb> yes
[21:12] <symptom> how big is that?
[21:12] <Dougal> I want to read from a Windows-formatted floppy disk. Are there a few simple commands i can try to mount the drive? (Pretty new to linux here)
[21:12] <FloodBot2> symptom: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:12] <snuitje> altini: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[21:13] <n8tuser> Dougal -> yes, they are calle the "m" commands,,  mdir is one
[21:13] <|ntegra|> how can I change the sudo-ing timeout?
[21:13] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: http://pastebin.ca/1267929
[21:13] <snuitje> mdir a: mformat a: etc
[21:13] <n8tuser> Dougal -> you can google for such "m" commands
[21:14] <Dougal> n8tuser: thanks
[21:14] <noriyuki> symptom, alright... I got a solution for you... but I dont know how many hours it will take you to download all of them... do the following: goto synaptics and select all the packages then install all of them (I dont know if this answers your question)
[21:14] <Ubuntunewb> you mean the check cd for errors?
[21:14] <symptom> no i dont want to install them... I just want the packages themselves
[21:14] <Ubuntunewb> i didnt see and integrity check
[21:14] <]{53> gerek: nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:14] <x-kent> anyone succeeded setting up gforce 8600 on ubuntu 8.10 ?
[21:14] <n8tuser> Ubuntunewb -> yes, cd rom check
[21:14] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: ok kewl...
[21:14] <]{53> Ubuntunewb: yes
[21:14] <snuitje> !pastebin | Zeelot3k
[21:15] <Ubuntunewb> yes i ran that
[21:15] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: can you paste the line in /etc/fstab of the root?
[21:15] <Ubuntunewb> im running it again just to be safe
[21:15] <]{53> Ubuntunewb: Was it clean?
[21:15] <noriyuki> symptom, oohh .... I dont know why would you want to do that but yes there is a way.... I think that using synaptics there is an option if you right click or something that says "only download package"
[21:15] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: ok 1 second
[21:15] <noriyuki> symptom, let me see give me a sec
[21:16] <getxsick> hi!
[21:16] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: in /etc/fstab it says the device in a comment above
[21:16] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: easy to tell that way which device belongs to that uuid
[21:16] <Zeelot3k> yea
[21:17] <Zeelot3k> but I dont know what to write in grubs config
[21:17] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77211/
[21:17] <n8tuser> !grub | Zeelot3k
[21:17] <noriyuki> symptom, okay I cant find it but I am sure there is a command on the terminal that does it... Which I dont know.. lol keep asking sorry!
[21:17] <snuitje> allright, so sda5 is kubuntu then
[21:17] <snuitje> the only one left to choose from -_-
[21:18] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: yes it is
[21:18] <getxsick> are there available themes for netbook remix?
[21:18] <Zeelot3k> in ubuntu it's mounted as /brother
[21:20] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: add this http://paste.ubuntu.com/77212/
[21:20] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: see if that gets kubuntu running
[21:20] <Ubuntunewb> holy cow it ran forever then rebooted i couldnt see what the result of the integrity check was
[21:20] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: thanks ill be back soon ^_^
[21:20] <le00> i have a fstab line to mount a hard disk. It doesnt works. so i try to mount it manually by going go Places-->HardDisk and sometimes this works. From time to time it says: Only root can mount /dev/sda1 on /media/harddisk-name .  Anyone knows how to solve this????
[21:21] <Al2O3> anyone know of a CD iso image that's sole purpose is to be used to clean wipe a hard drive?
[21:21] <symptom> im thinking there is just a place to download it from
[21:21] <]{53> Al203 dban
[21:21] <Al2O3> I want to boot into a CD burned image and clean format my hard drive.
[21:21] <pm2> Hello - I'm experiencing very slow performance on my laptop, which I suspect is due to harddrive performance.  I looked at the output of hdparm, and it shows that DMA is not enabled.  When I try to enable it, it says "HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted" -- any thoughts on how to fix this?
[21:21] <lagann_> le00, next time try sudo umount -a /dev/sda1 /media/harddisk-name
[21:21] <snuitje> getxsick: seems nbr has a theme of its own, human-netbook
[21:22] <]{53> Al2O3: dban.org
[21:22] <Ubuntunewb> 53 i it supposed to be so quick you cant see it at the end
 everything installed, looks okay. how can I check quickly if all hardware is supported? will it support my built in camera?
[21:22] <le00> lagann_: What does that do?
[21:22] <lagann_> oops umount
[21:22] <lagann_> my bad
[21:23] <lagann_> le00, next time try sudo mount -a /dev/sda1 /media/harddisk-name
[21:23] <]{53> steel_lady: I don't know what kind of camera you have. Is your PC a laptop?
[21:23] <le00> lagann-: But what do i put on fstab to solve this permanently???
[21:23] <le00> ops
[21:23] <]{53> Ubuntunewb: what was that?
[21:23] <snuitje> pm2: you don't need hdparm anymore since the kernel has libata, it was introduced with 7.04 iirc
[21:24] <le00> lagann_: But what do i put on fstab to solve this permanently?
[21:24] <pm2> snuitje, so do I need to do something different to enable dma?
[21:24] <snuitje> pm2: basically, if dma is supported and linux doesn't use it for no reason, it's a bug
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[21:24] <lagann_> le00, is that a ntfs partition?
[21:24] <Ubuntunewb> i ran the integrity chesk and it siad completed at the end but it rebooted so quick i couldnt see the results
[21:24] <LeD|away> hi all
[21:24] <pm2> snuitje, how can I tell if its being used?
[21:24] <Demios1> I installed ubuntu, everything seemed fine, after my first reboot it asked for a booting disk, even after I set the bios properly
[21:25] <lagann_> if it is, just add /dev/sdb3       /media/disk     ntfs in the fstab
[21:25] <lagann_> oops
[21:25] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: unrecognized device string error
[21:25] <LeD_> qualcuno italiano??
[21:25] <lagann_> if it is, just add /dev/sdb3       /media/harddisk-name    ntfs in the fstab
[21:25] <]{53> steel_lady: I don't have much experience with webcams and linux, sorry.
[21:25] <snuitje> pm2: maybe ask ##linux -_-' i never bother with those settings
[21:25] <getxsick> snuitje: i saw a lot of screenshoots...in some different coloursset
[21:25] <pm2> snuitje, ok, thanks
[21:25] <le00> lagann_: Its an ntfs disk. Im going to put: /dev/sdb3       /media/harddisk-name    ntfs
[21:26] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: oh noes
[21:26] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: what's that mean o_o
[21:26] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: either it's grub telling it doesn't know about hd(0,4) or it's linux telling it doesn't know /dev/sda5
[21:26] <le00> lagann_: its sda1
[21:27] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: i guess it's grub? did linux load anything at all?
[21:27] <Ubuntunewb> did you see my response 53
[21:27] <lagann_> le00, I know huh but I just copied whatever is from my fstab
[21:27] <lagann_> sorry about that
[21:27] <PatrickBic> hi
[21:27] <lagann_> :-(
[21:27] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: no
[21:27] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: error right away
[21:27] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: if you edit away 'quiet' (and 'splash') you can see what linux is up to
[21:27] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: must be grub then
[21:28] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: anything I can do?
[21:28] <denis_> прива всем) как рыбок в кубе запустить? подскажите плиз... ubuntu 8.10
[21:28] <PatrickBic> am i allowed the ubuntu logo in my own software logo (= gpl software)?
[21:28] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: ic, grub error 11
[21:28] <demon_> Some gspca Webcams not detected in ubuntu 8.10 and Kernel 2.6.27 anymore (for which in 8.04 an alternative driver had to be blacklisted) ?? what should i do
[21:29] <|ntegra|> as user I'm locked out of my partition, how can I get to use it?
[21:29] <ChosenOne> hey i lost my window manager after I installed (and removed) compiz on Xubuntu. any idea how its autostart would be spefcified? (running xfwm4 manually is not the answer, eh?) :)
[21:29] <ompaul> PatrickBic, you need to talk with canonical.com they own the trademark and gpl does not cover trademarks even gnu is a trademark
[21:29] <PatrickBic> ompaul, email'ing them with a description+logo-idea is enough?
[21:30] <paul68> I have a question I work with my laptop at home and I also use it at work is there a way to instruct thunderbird that when I'm at home he uses the smtp server from my isp and when I'm at work it uses the one from work?
[21:30] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: hmm?
[21:30] <ompaul> PatrickBic, not qualified for discussion on this subject, please talk to them
[21:30] <demon_> Some gspca Webcams not detected in ubuntu 8.10 and Kernel 2.6.27 anymore (for which in 8.04 an alternative driver had to be blacklisted) ?? what should i do
[21:30] <oaxacamatt> hi all
[21:30] <panagiotis> hello everyone, i need some help.. i just discovered that i can not play blue ray disc with my VLC (ubuntu 8.10) what should i do?? thank you in advance
[21:30] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: oic, my bad
[21:31] <le00> lagann_: So what i do now. Do i have to reboot???
[21:31] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: according to docs, it's (hd0,4) not hd(0,4)
[21:31] <|ntegra|> demon_: I'd go back to 8.04+security updates >>for sure
[21:31] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: ok ill change and try again thanks
[21:31] <lagann_> le00, yes... and see what happens
 I dl skype trying to install it and it says: Error: dependency is not satisfyable: libqt4-core. would it help enabling some repositories?
[21:31] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: this explains it: http://www.novell.com/documentation/suse91/suselinux-adminguide/html/ch07s04.html
[21:31] <|ntegra|> (being the noob that I am)
[21:31] <sammyF> hey there again.
[21:31] <le00> ok
[21:31] <le00> im leaving
[21:31] <panagiotis> anybody?
[21:31] <le00> bye
[21:31] <sammyF> how can I set the network to use a fix ip address systemwide?
[21:31] <RomD> hi, I've got a problem regarding the nvidia drivers and Ubuntu 8.10 x64. I actived v177.80 drivers and restarted. Now I can't get into the GUI anymore. "startx" returns "no screens found". I already re-installed and activated again, but same result. I'm using two nvidia cards and three monitors.
[21:32] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: root       (hd0,4) correct?
[21:32] <oaxacamatt> bueller...
[21:32] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: i think so yes -_-
[21:32] <oaxacamatt> bueller...
[21:32] <snuitje> "(hd0,4)   first logical partition
[21:32] <snuitje> "
[21:32] <snuitje> oops sorry for the extra \n
[21:32] <oaxacamatt> bueller...
[21:33] <RomD> even deleting xorg.conf didn't help
[21:33] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: ill be right back ^_^
[21:33] <demon_> |ntegra|, ?? what remove 8.10?
[21:33] <snuitje> romd: do the cards have the same chipset?
[21:33] <lagann_> RomD, deleting xorg.conf wouldn't help anyone who has a card like you
[21:33] <Demios1> can some who can help /msg me please?
[21:33] <lagann_> what kind of video do you use, RomD?
[21:33] <RomD> it's a 8800 gtx and a 8400 gs
[21:34] <lagann_> nvidia
[21:34] <paul68> I have a question I work with my laptop at home and I also use it at work is there a way to instruct thunderbird that when I'm at home he uses the smtp server from my isp and when I'm at work it uses the one from work?
[21:34] <]{53> steel_lady: http://technical-itch.co.uk/2007/09/18/how-to-install-skype-on-ubuntu/
[21:34] <oaxacamatt> Q. Has anyone tried installing Ubuntu server and then adding Gnome, a sort of ab initio approach?  I am in the midst of doing it now and would like to get some feedback, alternate experiences, etc.
[21:34] <lagann_> these guys probably have the solution for you, RomD
[21:35] <snuitje> oaxacamatt: not exactly ubuntu server but i've installed it from a clean debootstrapped system, as well as a commandline install
[21:35] <maverick340> i had a question about monodevelop. i am using VisualC# Express in the lab PC and monodevelop on the home PC. When  i code a simple hello world console application the output comes in a dis prompt in VC#
[21:35] <RomD> who legann_?
[21:35] <RomD> *lagann_
[21:35] <]{53> RomD: What steps did you take to enable the driver?
[21:35] <guntbert> Demios1:   ask your question in the channel, if somebody knows the answer you will get it
[21:35] <maverick340> how do i do the same on monodevelop ?
[21:35] <lagann_> romgo, these guys in this channel
[21:35] <oaxacamatt> Snuitje: What do you mean by de-bootstrap system?
[21:36] <le00> lagann_: Still the same error
[21:36] <RomD> I opened the restricted drivers menu and selected the 177.80 and clicked "activate"
[21:36] <RomD> it told me to restart
[21:36] <snuitje> no, debootstrap, it's a tool to bootstrap debian, or ubuntu :)
[21:36] <Ubuntunewb> is there a dvd iso of ubuntu available
[21:36] <]{53> Ubuntunewb: why do you need a dvd iso?
[21:36] <snuitje> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#dvd
[21:36] <lagann_> le00, did you sudo mkdir /media/harddisk-name?
[21:36] <snuitje> more languages :)
[21:36] <enl810d> hmmm...my aliases only work when I have screen running. Anyone know how I could fix this?
[21:36] <oaxacamatt> Snuitle: can you point me toward a website for this software or approach.
[21:36] <j42o> ino blank cds?
[21:36] <j42o> lol
[21:36] <PatrickBic> ompaul, mailed them ;).. thanks again :)
[21:37] <RomD> I assume it has to do with the fact that I use two cards
[21:37] <maverick340> any help on the monodevelop problem ..
[21:37] <Al2O3> got dban to go, thank you.  Next question ,is there a bootable iso that will do a 'low level' verification and block deallocation of blocks/sectors of the HD?
[21:37] <snuitje> oaxacamatt: google it :)
[21:38] <lagann_> RomD, I love sli
[21:38] <Ubuntunewb> lol cause im out of cds so was thinking of burning to dvd lol
[21:38] <lagann_> lol
[21:38] <snuitje> oaxacamatt: top results are from the package archive, ignore those
[21:38] <guntbert> maverick340: this channel is for ubuntu-support, not for monodevelop, but if you want you can pm me
[21:38] <RomD> that's not sli
[21:38] <le00> lagann_: no, but im sure it's right
[21:38] <]{53> Ubuntunewb: just burn it to a DVD, it doesn't have to be a DVD image.
[21:38] <wos> could anyone PLEASE help me know if my tv tuner card is identified by my box
[21:38] <Demios1> I installed ubuntu it ran everything was good, then when I rebooted (cd out, bios set) the computer asked for a system disk rather than give me a boot option for ubuntu or windows. Right now I'm on the live CD because of that. How do I boot into the installed ubuntu?
[21:38] <lagann_> so you don't sli, RomD?
[21:39] <RomD> is there a way to get rid of the nvidia drivers and use the default ones?
[21:39] <Ubuntunewb> ok
[21:39] <RomD> you can't sli different cards ;)
[21:39] <lagann_> le00,, you gotta mkdir /media/harddisk-name first
[21:39] <demon_> Some gspca Webcams not detected in ubuntu 8.10 and Kernel 2.6.27 anymore (for which in 8.04 an alternative driver had to be blacklisted) can any body tell me how to do that pls
[21:39] <]{53> Demios1: make sure you have the correct disk selected in the BIOS.
[21:39] <lagann_> RomD, oh right you got me right there
[21:39] <lagann_> lol
[21:39] <Dmole> how can I get .jp to display on the CLI?
[21:39] <]{53> Demios1: do you have more than one hard drive?
[21:39] <snuitje> Demios1: did you change anything in the cmos setup prior to installing?
[21:40] <j42o> do any of u guys use ati HD 2600 series video card
[21:40] <snuitje> Dmole: echo .jp ???
[21:40] <wos> could anyone PLEASE help me know if my tv tuner card is detected by my box
[21:40] <]{53> lol snuitje!
[21:40] <le00> lagann_: I did it. sudo mkdir the-hdd
[21:40] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: partition size exceeds limit for bios or something like that
[21:40] <]{53> wos: run lspci
[21:41] <le00> lagann_: do i reboot again???
[21:41] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: error 18 I believe
[21:41] <]{53> wos: and see if it lists it.
[21:41] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: ahh scheiz...
[21:41] <Demios1> I have one physical drive, but it's split now into 3 partitions, one containing windows, one ubuntu and one as a swap partition. The order in the bios is correct and for some reason it's asking for a system disc and won't boot for a local disc
[21:41] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: use root (hd0,0), that's the /boot partition right? /dev/sda1
[21:41] <wos> ]{53, would it list it under brand name?
[21:41] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: grub needs to know where the kernel is
[21:41] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: its in /boot no?
[21:41] <Dmole> snuitje: and by .jp I meant  Japanese
[21:42] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: yeah
[21:42] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: so root is the location of kernel
[21:42] <]{53> wos: do you know the brand and model of the tuner card??
[21:42] <racquad> hi guys! i'm in trouble with alsa!
[21:42] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: that's why it says /vmlinuz and not /boot/vmlinuz...
[21:42] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: and the other one I lieve as 5?
[21:42] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: for grub yes, for linux, no
[21:42] <wos> ]{53, yes
[21:42] <racquad> all I hear is static and noise!
[21:42] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: yes! :)
[21:42] <]{53> wos: what is it?
[21:42] <[T]ank> i am trying to get fan control working on my ubuntu install on my lenovo T61.
[21:42] <[T]ank> it keeps overheating.
[21:42] <[T]ank> everything i see on google is getting me no where.
[21:42] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: thanks brb
[21:42] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: sorry for the trouble :-/
 I am adding medibuntu to install skype. is there some other package like this that I might like to add for extra supported programs?
[21:43] <wos> Hauppauge WinTV HVR 950q
[21:43] <[T]ank> anyone know how to get this dang fan to work on a T61?
[21:43] <mphill> how do you add more virtual terminals with ubuntu?  I think the upstart changed the way i used to do it.
[21:43] <]{53> steel_lady: I would take it on a per need basis.
[21:43] <snuitje> mphill: yes take a look in /etc/event.d
[21:44] <mphill> snuitje: can i just copy tty6 to tty9, modify the file and let that be it?
[21:44] <snuitje> mphill: iirc, dpkg-reconfigure -plow console-setup gets you the question on the number of consoles to set up (it'll set the font and xkb settings for you)
 many times I searched for something through synaptics and I didn t find it because I did not know whick repositories to add. sometimes you dont know the name of the program just look for keywords so it is the other ting then you know you want to install skype for eg.
[21:45] <lagann_> le00, yes, only you mkdir /media/harddisk-name already
[21:45] <snuitje> mphill: hm, tty9 won't be set up by consolesetup but it could work i guess
[21:45] <racquad> any idea anyone?
[21:45] <wos> ]{53
[21:45] <lagann_> if*
[21:45] <snuitje> mphill: never tried it, if it works, i'd like a logtail or something similar running on tty9
[21:45] <Demios1> ]{53 I have one physical drive, but it's split now into 3 partitions, one containing windows, one ubuntu and one as a swap partition. The order in the bios is correct and for some reason it's asking for a system disc and won't boot for a local disc
[21:46] <snuitje> mphill: a console to quickly check on syslog, like under old suse :)
[21:46] <le00> lagann_: yes. Rebooting now
[21:46] <nameless`> hi
[21:46] <wos> could anyone PLEASE help me know if my tv tuner card is identified by my box
[21:46] <]{53> steel_lady: google is your friend ;)
[21:46] <mphill> snuitje: thanks
[21:46] <nameless`> my friendssend me a crypted zipped file which give me an .pae file
[21:46] <]{53> wos: yes?
[21:46] <nameless`> how can i open it ?
[21:46] <nameless`> (i got the pass)
[21:46] <wos> ]{53 Hauppauge WinTV HVR 950q
[21:46] <]{53> Demios1: Did you try reinstalling GRUB?
[21:47] <Swian> anyone use a Sansa Fuze on ubuntu?
[21:47] <cpro> hi
[21:47] <snuitje> mp3 player?
[21:47] <Swian> yeah
[21:47] <wos> someone please help!
[21:47] <snuitje> what's wrong with it?
[21:47] <Swian> nothing
[21:47] <Swian> just got one
[21:47] <lagann_> Swian, don't know what that is, but I would love to try it out
[21:47] <Demios1> ]{53 no I did not, thank you.
[21:47] <cpro> i am not able to change my network from my home network to anyother network as i dont have network-admin
[21:47] <Swian> according to the ubuntu forums you can use it
[21:47] <droopsta915> if my computer is ever running slow, should i backup the system and reinstall ubuntu. What does everyone think?
[21:48] <cpro> i have a wireless connection
[21:48] <lagann_> cpro, same here
[21:48] <snuitje> wos: try installing mplayer and running mplayer tv:// see if that works
[21:48] <lagann_> I had to do it manually
[21:48] <snuitje> hi did it work?
[21:48] <gnu2it2> adding a removable usb attached disk grive to be used as nfs share for a SCO nightly backup, what filesystem should i setup as?
[21:48] <cpro> lagann how did u do it
[21:48] <cxo> Is there a yum groupinstall "Development Tools" for ubuntu?
[21:48] <bj> hey guys, i recently upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and now my trash can and time from the right side has sifted about 1/4 the screen, any ideas
[21:49] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: it boots but its broken...prolly because its using ubuntus kernel?
[21:49] <DasEi> gnu2it2: ext 3
[21:49] <]{53> wos: please calm down I am looking.
[21:49] <gnu2it2> thanks
[21:49] <LF|Irssi> nameless`: that is opened with a windows program called PowerArchiver, im not sure if linux has a port of powerarchiver or not...
[21:49] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: the ubuntu splash screen comes, a bunch of filesystem errors, then I get the kubuntu login but keyboard and mouse dont work
[21:49] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: well, you shouldn't mix linux x86_64 and linux i386 kernel...
[21:49] <DasEi> gnu2it2: or nfs itself (own fs)
[21:49] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: might be related to the modules it can't load
[21:50] <]{53> wos: those cards are suppose to work well with linux. Have you loaded a program to watch the video with?
[21:50] <chairman> i'm having a problem with my Evolution mail client to configur e it w/Gmail
[21:50] <DasEi> gnu2it2: you want it to use with windows, too ?
[21:50] <Zeelot3k> is there a way to install a new kernel for kubuntu? or reinstall kubuntu 32bit without breaking ubuntu 64bit?
[21:50] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: those modules would be x86_64
[21:50] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: they don't load into a plain i386 kernel ;)
[21:50] <lagann_> I went to network-admin, entered my ssid, my wep key, and put it as DHCP... but first, I had the network-manager uninstalled before rebooting
[21:50] <wos> ]{53,  yes ive tried a lot
[21:50] <lagann_> cpro*
[21:50] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: is there a way to install a new kernel for kubuntu? or reinstall kubuntu 32bit without breaking ubuntu 64bit?
[21:50] <gnu2it2> no need for ntfs or windows of any kind :)
[21:50] <cpro> lagann can u tell me how to do it
[21:50] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: given the userland would be 64bit too, it's amazing anything works at all :P
[21:51] <]{53> wos: sorry, I don't have much experience with tuner cards and linux.
[21:51] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: i think so yeah...
[21:51] <lagann_> cpro, I already did
[21:51] <irpapabear> hello all
[21:51] <le00> lagann_: STILL the SAME ERROR
[21:51] <DasEi> gnu2it2: (!who) so ext3, best to recover errors
[21:51] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: basically the reformatting of /boot is what breaks the old OS because thats where the kernel is right?
[21:51] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: yep
[21:52] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: can I install kubuntu without formatting /boot?
[21:52] <aegis> freakin terrorists in india
[21:52] <cpro> lagann please tell me how to do it
[21:52] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: sure but i'm puzzling with how you'd get around the grub limitation
[21:52] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: or do I have to pick a different partition for the kubuntu install to use as /boot
[21:52] <lagann_> I went to network-admin, entered my ssid, my wep key, and put it as DHCP... but first, I had the network-manager uninstalled before rebooting
[21:52] <Ubuntunewb> hey 53
[21:52] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: you'd need the kernel in a place where grub can find it]
[21:53] <lagann_> le00, can you pastebin your ls /media
[21:53] <wos> snuitje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77220/
[21:53] <Zeelot3k> right, cant that be on sda5 with the os?
[21:53] <Ubuntunewb> the integrity check finished it says errors found i  1 files
[21:53] <lagann_> and your fstab
[21:53] <]{53> Ubuntunewb: yes...
[21:53] <irpapabear> rats  i was gonna say that...i don't type as fast
[21:53] <snuitje> wos: looks broken :/
[21:53] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: right, cant that be on sda5 with the os?
[21:54] <cpro> lagann thanks i got it
[21:54] <Ubuntunewb> the integrity check finished it says errors found i  1 files
[21:54] <]{53> Ubuntunewb: what are you using to burn the cd?
[21:54] <wos> snuitje, could you explain please
[21:54] <Ubuntunewb> dvd burner drive on my xp 64 bit box
[21:54] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: for ubuntu, yes would be no problem but the thing is, grub doesn't seem to like going that far
[21:54] <]{53> Ubuntunewb: try a slower speed.
[21:54] <Ubuntunewb> all that over one file sheesh lol
[21:55] <Zeelot3k> snuitje:  ah yes my motherboard limitation
[21:55] <snuitje> wos: try dmesg | grep -i video
[21:55] <DasEi> Ubuntunewb: which burning app do you use ? nero ?
[21:55] <guntbert> Ubuntunewb: did you verify your iso-image before burning it?
[21:55] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: the kernel needs to be at beginning of disk
[21:55] <cxo> Is there a yum groupinstall "Development Tools" for ubuntu? I just want a complete C dev environment, debuggers, compilers the works
[21:55] <]{53> my conky keeps crashing. :(
[21:55] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: so if we can get around that, then it'll work
[21:56] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: maybe we could create a /boot inside your /boot
[21:56] <Ubuntunewb> 53 should i re download the image to be on the safe side or yuo think itll be ok
[21:56] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: o_o
[21:56] <wos> snuitje, http://paste.ubuntu.com/77222/
[21:56] <]{53> Ubuntunewb: you need to check the image.
[21:56] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: basically, kubuntu would mount /boot somewhere else, like /usr/local/boot, then bind mount /usr/local/boot/kubuntu on /boot
[21:56] <guntbert> cxo: you will at least need build-essential
[21:56] <Ubuntunewb> ok how do i do that?
[21:57] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: so that way kernel upgrades can go on as usual
[21:57] <guntbert> !,d5 | Ubuntunewb
[21:57] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: is that complicated to do?
[21:57] <cxo> guntbert, yeah thats not much help, its only got the compiler and patch
[21:57] <DasEi> !md5 | ubuntunewb
[21:57] <guntbert> !md5 | Ubuntunewb
[21:57] <FloodBot2> ubottu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:57] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: it's hackish but i think it's doable :)
[21:57] <Ubuntunewb> i just downloaded it from ubuntu.com and didnt realize there was a way to check it
[21:57] <]{53> LOL the bots were talking to each other,....
[21:58] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: do you have your kubuntu 64 livecd?
[21:58] <Zeelot3k> kubuntu is 32bit
[21:58] <Zeelot3k> yes I do
[21:58] <almostautomated> Hello :)   I'm using Hardy as my linux development platform and am finding that I need some more recent packages than are available via the default repositories (ie new subversion, git, etc...) instead of manually updating each of these I was wondering if there is something along the line of a testing repo, or like EPEL?
[21:58] <snuitje> oh right, which did you install last?
[21:58] <le00> lagann_:Here it is it:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/77224/
[21:58] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: ubuntu 64bit last which is what broke kubuntu 32bit
[21:59] <wos> snuitje, http://paste.ubuntu.com/77222/
[21:59] <thanasis> thanasis
[21:59] <DasEi>  almostautomated:check your sources.list > backports
[21:59] <irpapabear> checl ya back ports
[21:59] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: right, boot your kubuntu cd, then mount the kubuntu root fs, chroot in there and fix the lot
[21:59] <almostautomated> DasEi: thank you, I was just looking at that one :)
[22:00] <DasEi> !backports > almostautomated
[22:00] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: then add some static kernels to menu.lst, from thereon that'll require some intervention to keep up-to-date unless we add a script so it'll be done for you
[22:00] <Ubuntunewb> 53 any response?
[22:00] <wos> snuitje, http://paste.ubuntu.com/77222/
[22:01] <Zeelot3k> hmmph
[22:01] <Zeelot3k> ok ill give it a try thanks
[22:01] <Zeelot3k> question
[22:01] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: if I install ubuntu and kubuntu BOTH 32bit, no issues would arise?
[22:01] <wos> no issues
[22:02] <wos> could anyone PLEASE help me know if my tv tuner card is identified by my box
[22:02] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: no, you can perfectly run them together by just installing one and adding the other
[22:02] <DasEi> wos:lshw or lspci in terminal
[22:02] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: thanks so this dual boot issue is only because kernal issues from 32 to 64bit
[22:03] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: i can help with the chrooting and fixing thing
[22:03] <__Markus__> join #asterisk
[22:03] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: well yeah, you're mixing up 2 different architectures
[22:03] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: yea I have no idea how to do half the stuff you said though lol
[22:03] <n8tuser> wos -> see if its on the list..   hal-device-manager
[22:03] <rbanffy> Hi folks. Anyone experiencing weird stuff with dual-monitors after yesterdays update?
[22:03] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: hehe, well it's not /that/ hard
[22:03] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: think I should do the hard way? I dont want to get rid of ubuntu 64bit but its just too buggy right now
[22:04] <hexbase> !es | flaco
[22:04] <wos> n8tuser, where is that
[22:04] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: your current ubuntu 64 system is buggy? oh noes
[22:04] <n8tuser> wos -> type that on the command line.. hal-device-manager
[22:04] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: anything in particular?
[22:04] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: most of the apps I use have issues on 64bit and I just need a stable 32bit system to work
[22:05] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: well, if you have no more then 4GB ram anyway, (3GB if you use nvidia drivers) then i recommend running a 32bit os
[22:05] <wos> me@me-laptop:~$ apt-get  hal-device-manager
[22:05] <wos> E: Invalid operation hal-device-manager
[22:05] <wos> me@me-laptop:~$  hal-device-manager
[22:05] <wos> bash: hal-device-manager: command not found
[22:05] <FloodBot2> wos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:05] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: I love having 6gigs of memory on hand, feels great and nothing slows me down but there are just too many tiny little bugs in all the apps that I cant work efficiently
[22:06] <oaxacamatt> Is it possible to 'turn off' the feature that shows wether or not people come or go into and out of the chat room on Pidgin?
[22:06] <node357> Zeelot3k, I feel the same way about Windows programs :P
[22:06] <Zeelot3k> node357: lol yea dropped that long ago
[22:06] <senorgomez> what is the verdict with trying to use all 4 gigs with ubuntu? I have 4 installed and only am using 3...
[22:06] <node357> :)
[22:06] <agampher> oaxacamatt: /j #pidgin
[22:06] <DasEi>  oaxacamatt:yes, plugins
[22:07] <rbanffy> Weird as in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/302227
[22:07] <oaxacamatt> DasEi: I am sorry where do I input that?
[22:07] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: linux can support like 32, maybe even 64GB on 32bit, but i've never tried it ^^
[22:07] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: is there any way to talk to you when I boot into the kubuntu live cd so you can help me a little more? messenger or something a little less chaotic?
[22:07] <agampher> oaxacamatt: tools -> plugins
[22:08] <wos> n8tuser, ?
[22:08] <n8tuser> wos ->  lshal
[22:08] <DasEi>  oaxacamatt:buddy liste >tools > plugins > hide join/leave
[22:08] <]{53> wos: apt-get install hal-device-manager
[22:08] <]{53> woops sorry n8tuser
[22:09] <snuitje> Zeelot3k: kubuntu comes with kopete right?
[22:09] <Zeelot3k> snuitje: I think so, should have something on the live cd
[22:09] <DasEi> snuitje:very hackisch , 32bit adresses max 4 gb including graphics, 64bit more thaen enough (TB's)
[22:09] <almostautomated> DasEi: thanks; that looks right along the lines of what I was thinking.  Are there other, even more cutting edge public repos that you know of?
[22:09] <oaxacamatt> Kool, thanks Desei
[22:10] <wos> ok n8tuser what next?
[22:10] <dewente> i want to do a netboot sharing my cdrom in the LAN
[22:10] <snuitje> dasei: yeah well linux has support for more GB which was meant for running rly rly large databases, it's probably not very practical for desktop use
[22:10] <n8tuser> wos -> i said look for it on the list..
[22:11] <DasEi> almostautomated: mhuh, not a good idea to install packets too faraway from the repos, you'll risk instabilty ( as apt won't realize foreign stuff)
[22:11] <dewente> i want to do a netboot sharing my cdrom in the LAN
[22:11] <snuitje> dewente: the cdrom drive will not like you :)
[22:12] <Abe> hey could i get help on how to install Ubuntu on my laptop on the partitions part?
[22:12] <dewente> snuitje, lol
[22:12] <DasEi> snuitje:it is possible to have more then 4 g on a 32 bit sys, but it's not very handdy, by native neither win nor ubu can handle more then 4gig in 32 bit
[22:12] <dewente> i want to do a netboot sharing my cdrom in the LAN
[22:12] <Abe> i was trying to install and it suddenly stopped, i think it was because of the partitions,
[22:13] <nixbox> how do i update my ubuntu hardy server to intrepid from CLI? I dont have the GUI
[22:13] <nixbox> s/update/upgrade
[22:13] <snuitje> dewente: dont keep asking like that, rest a while, peace :)
[22:14] <tim1> ﻿DasEi:  4 Gb only on 64 bit budy
[22:14] <irpapabear> might wan tto add sudo
[22:14] <n8tuser> nixbox -> you may want to reconsider that, what is in the upgrade you are after? hang around and see how many people complaints due to upgrading
[22:14] <zsquareplusc> DasEi: firefox crash fixed?
[22:14] <irpapabear> nixbox suggest you do a clean install
[22:15] <nixbox> n8tuser, the server is for research purposes, i dont care if it crashes, i am after the newer kernel actually
[22:15] <DasEi> zsquareplusc: nope, but its not the only sys araound, for luck, filed a bug report yesterday
[22:15] <LoveGuru> !xinetd
[22:15] <mud> Hey all I have an Xorg issue with a Sharp PC-MM10 using xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion, anyone willing to give me a hand =)  I been at this since 8.10 was released.  Thanks!
[22:15] <cliffbreaker> hi everyone. Have a problem. Need to set correct resolution for Ubuntu splash screen. How can I do it?
[22:16] <n8tuser> nixbox -> have at it, you have been informed :)
[22:16] <outoftime> hey, has anybody running ubuntu on a mactel figured out how to disable the silly caps-lock delay?
[22:16] <jimmygoon> What the heck does the "System Setting" checkbox mean in the nm-applet app?
[22:16] <snuitje> i upgraded an 8.04 box to 8.10 box and it went fine
[22:16] <zsquareplusc> DasEi: yeah, someone else had a similar problem yesterday
[22:16] <snuitje> is that a bug? :D
[22:16] <snuitje> nixbox: from cli, do-release-upgrade
[22:16] <dewente> i want to do a netboot sharing my cdrom in the LAN
[22:17] <zsquareplusc> dewente: i net boot the livecd :-)
[22:17] <wos> n8tuser, its not there
[22:17] <dewente> ?
[22:17] <melol2> I have  window placement problem that has been going on for the past year or so. And it is progressing to be more and more annoying. can anyone help? It is putting a window continually in the very bottom right hand corner so I have to switch desktops to move it into view. Not every program, just that specific one. pics: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6257737
[22:17] <melol2> this is very annoying because I am in a java class and it constantly is slowing me down
[22:17] <n8tuser> wos -> then that answers you original question if its recognized
[22:17] <DasEi> zsquareplusc:segmentation fault turns out >100 posts on mozilla org, but sth similar I couldn't find in the last 20 posts, so gonna look again from time to time
[22:17] <cliffbreaker> hi everyone. Have a problem. Need to set correct resolution for Ubuntu splash screen. How can I do it?
[22:17] <amikrop> Hello. How can I create an iso image?
[22:18] <mud> amikrop: mkisofs
[22:18] <osxdude|laptop> Uh, any ideas on what applications is using my audio device?
[22:18] <snuitje> cliffbreaker: i use vga=x in /boot/grub/menu.lst under kopt
[22:18] <cliffbreaker> amikrop: iso image from what?
[22:18] <amikrop> mud: ok, thanks :)
[22:18] <nixbox> snuitje, it says no new release found :P
[22:18] <DasEi> amukrop: mkisofs or graphical with  k3b
[22:18] <dewente> i want to do a netboot sharing my cdrom in the LAN
[22:18] <amikrop> cliffbreaker: from some files
[22:18] <Slart> melol2: that's the way the "big desktop" works
[22:18] <snuitje> cliffbreaker: where x is the right numer for the res
[22:18] <melol2> I have  window placement problem that has been going on for the past year or so. And it is progressing to be more and more annoying. can anyone help? It is putting a window continually in the very bottom right hand corner so I have to switch desktops to move it into view. Not every program, just that specific one. pics: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6257737
[22:18] <LF|Irssi> osxdude|laptop: hey there :P
[22:18] <mugen> is there an Audio Player that can be attached to a panel in Gnome?
[22:18] <melol2> Slart,
[22:18] <melol2> ?
[22:18] <Slart> melol2: at least in compiz..
[22:18] <amikrop> cliffbreaker: let's say I mount an iso with -o loop
[22:18] <snuitje> nixbox: try -d for development release
[22:19] <amikrop> cliffbreaker: so, I get the files
[22:19] <melol2> Slart, i use compiz. How do i fix this?
[22:19] <osxdude|laptop> OMG
[22:19] <amikrop> cliffbreaker: I modify one file, and I want to create the iso again (with the modified file)
[22:19] <osxdude|laptop> LF|Irssi lives!
[22:19] <LF|Irssi> :)
[22:19] <melol2> Slack, and all my programs start mid-screen except that one.
[22:19] <Slart> melol2: the way compiz handles different desktops is to create one big desktop and let you watch separate parts of it
[22:19] <StevenX> Hello guys. Any easy way to rip a DVD movie into divx format on ubuntu?
[22:19] <nixbox> snuitje, ok, looks like its working, thanks
 well I use the correct number but resolution is not correct. Can you help me please?
[22:19] <melol2> Slart, all my programs start mid-screen. but that one starts bottom right corner
[22:20] <Slart> melol2:have you tried switching the two desktops? so you use the right one to put the window in the corner.. and then go to the left one
[22:20] <osxdude|laptop> Uh, any ideas on what applications is using my audio device? It says there is an app using it. It seems to have done this after either running an app in Wine (i've already killed all wine instances) or Timidity (which is removed).
[22:20] <aegis> has anyone noticed the bug in islam that causes radicalized zombie processes?  If not, turn on the news and look at what is happening in India right now...
[22:20] <Slart> !ot | aegis
[22:20] <cliffbreaker> amicrop: try to use k3b. It allows to create an iso
[22:20] <Zeelot> ok im on the live cd
[22:20] <melol2> Slart, then it starts at the very bottom so only the top bar is showing
[22:20] <Slart> melol2: ah.. sorry.. you don't want that window down there?
[22:21] <herooo> hello can some one help me to install this program http://jehaisjulie.fr.cr/?id=4072#6dzz5z54fsdq7ez78z8d
[22:21] <Slart> melol2: I misunderstood... hang on.. I think there's a setting for it
[22:21] <melol2> Slart, no i want it to cascade/appear in the center
[22:21] <nixbox> yayy just 3 minutes of download for 322 MB of upgrade packages
[22:21] <Zeelot> who was I talking to a minute ago? o_o
[22:21] <mud> Hey all I have an Xorg issue with a Sharp PC-MM10 using siliconmotion it just black and "AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0" in my xorg.log,  anyone willing to give me a hand =)  I been at this since 8.10 was released.  Thanks!
[22:21] <snuitje> upgrading ubuntu server 8.04 to 8.10: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades#Network Upgrade for Ubuntu Servers (Recommended)
[22:22] <snuitje> Zeelot: me?
[22:22] <Zeelot> snuitje: !! heh lol
[22:22] <Zeelot> snuitje: you have a weird name sry =P
[22:22] <oaxacamatt> Herooo where os the program on the webiste you sent out?
[22:22] <Slart> melol2: have you tried the "Place Windows" settings in ccsm?
[22:22] <Zeelot> snuitje: so how do I mount sda5 now to access it?
[22:22] <Slart> !ccsm | melol2
[22:22] <snuitje> Zeelot: it's dutch, zee means sea here btw :)
[22:22] <oaxacamatt> Is it in .deb format? That would make it real simple...
[22:22] <Zeelot> snuitje: cool good to know
[22:23] <Slart> melol2: I think you can set some kind of default behaviour and even force certain winodows to act in special ways
[22:23] <snuitje> Zeelot: got konsole?
[22:23] <Zeelot> snuitje: yes
[22:23] <Santolina> sudo apt-get gdal
[22:23] <Santolina> E: Invalid operation gdal    <-- what does this mean?
[22:23] <snuitje> Zeelot: sudo -s
[22:23] <snuitje> Zeelot: mkdir /mnt/sda5
[22:23] <fsufitch> hey guys, i got an issue with my sound on ubuntu 8.10. Whenever I use external speakers, there is always background noise (a static hiss)  thaht is audible. This doesn't go away no matter how i mess with the volume or w/e. Anyone else having this problem?
[22:23] <melol2> Slart, yeah i've tried. but it seems to have no effect
[22:23] <snuitje> Zeelot: mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5
[22:23] <Slart> Santolina: sudo apt-get install gda1?
[22:24] <dsdeiz> hi, i just finished installing php apache and mysql in ubuntu. although i'm not able to create files in the folder /var/www/. any ideas? :(
[22:24] <CelticLord> sur ce .... bonsoir
[22:24] <Zeelot> snuitje: done, now what do I need to do?
[22:24] <Slart> melol2: perhaps the application creating the window is doing something wrong?
[22:24] <snuitje> Zeelot: chroot /mnt/sda5
[22:24] <snuitje> Zeelot: mount /proc
[22:25] <DasEi> Hello CelticSoul, see :
[22:25] <DasEi> !fr
[22:25] <snuitje> Zeelot: /proc should work, if it doesn't, you get trouble :P
[22:25] <Zeelot> snuitje: it mounted fine
[22:25] <StevenX> where can i get and download ultamatix
[22:25] <Brandano> Good evening, what's the channel temperature tonight?
[22:25] <dsdeiz> anyone? :)
[22:26] <DasEi> !ask|dsdeiz
[22:26] <snuitje> Zeelot: but it should also chroot fine and mount /proc, you could bind /proc to /mnt/sda5/proc prior to chrooting, that'll do the trick too
[22:26] <melol2> Slart, is it possible that BlueJ bypasses compiz placement?
[22:26] <Zeelot> snuitje: I did everything you told me and got no errors so far
[22:26] <snuitje> Zeelot: wow, my head is working properly again :)
[22:26] <ssmy_> fsufitch: Look in the volume control. Start disabling devices (mute them). When the hiss goes away, you fixed it.
[22:26] <melol2> It's a java program
[22:26] <delroth> hi guys, I've a friend who has a lenovo laptop, and since he updated two days ago its Ubuntu Hardy, the laptop's fan does not start anymore. Moreover, the CPU sensor seems to be unavailable and can't read any temperature. Does someone have a clue about how I could solve this problem ?
[22:26] <Zeelot> snuitje: chroot /mnt/sda5 then mount /proc worked fine
[22:26] <Brandano> is there any "proper" way to install Mplayer32 on an amd64 machine without having to use a chroot?
[22:26] <dsdeiz> hi, i just finished installing php apache and mysql in ubuntu. although i'm not able to create files in the folder /var/www/. any ideas? <- my question again.. hehehe
[22:26] <Slart> melol2: if that's the only program doing this then it might be a possibility
[22:27] <Brandano> there used to be a package that did just that, but it was messy, and I doubt it has been kept updated
[22:27] <Slart> Brandano: I think there's a mplayer32 package you can install.. at least I have had one of those installed before
[22:27] <Slart> !info mplayer32
[22:27] <snuitje> Zeelot: is this channel too messy btw? i dont know if anyone else wants to follow all of this
[22:27] <DrK> Can anyone recommend some good auido/mp3 players for linux (Im new to linux looking for something similar to winamp)
[22:27] <ssmy_> delroth: restarted maybe? my gateway does that sometimes for no reason. a restart usually fixes.
[22:27] <Slart> hmm
[22:27] <DasEi> Brandano: what happens if you : sudo-apt-get install mplayer ?
[22:27] <Zeelot> snuitje: if you can do this in a PM it would be better lol
[22:27] <delroth> ssmy_: it was restarted several times
[22:27] <snuitje> Zeelot: it tends to get crowded in here ^^
[22:27] <Slart> DrK: try audacious.. it's pretty similar to winamp
[22:27] <melol2> Slart, is there any way to fix this that you know of? and is there anything I have to enable by default for "Place Window" to work?
[22:27] <fsufitch> ssmy_, not even muting Master gets rid of it... that's my problem: i can't get rid of it!
[22:27] <delroth> did not solve anything
[22:27] <snuitje> Zeelot: fine with me
[22:27] <Brandano> Slack: DasEi it grabs the 64 bit version, as you'd expect
[22:27] <TopBunny88>  fSongbird
[22:28] <GreedyB> how do I remove packages that I installed as dependencies for something?
[22:28] <DasEi> Brandano: why do you need the 32 ?
[22:28] <Ubuntunewb> ok now i finished burning a new copy and am going to run th i8ntegrity check
[22:28] <Slart> melol2: hmm.. I don't know of any existing fixes.. actually I've never had this problem so I haven't looked into it
[22:28] <Brandano> AFAIK the only way to "trick" the 64 bit os into grabbing the 32 bit version is to do it via a chroot... but seems overkill for such a small thing
[22:28] <ssmy_> GreedyB: After removing the pakage, sudo apt-get autoremove.
[22:28] <Brandano> and plays merry hell with the filesystem usage tool :)
[22:28] <vladtsepesh1984> hi everibody...i have a terratec 7.1 pci audio card, i have disabled the on board audio card from bios but i still can't use the spdif optical audio out on ubuntu...i'm new on ubuntu....can anibody help me????
[22:29] <DasEi> GreedyB: man apt, autoremove
[22:29] <gda> hi.  i'm having trouble correctly setting up an ftp (vsftpd) user for polycom ip telephones.  i've tried before with proftpd and discovered that i can't use their default username, "PlcmSpIp", so i have a unprivileged user, "poly", setup, but can't move files to its home directory.  i'm pretty new to this, but i'll do my best to keep up if someone can help me.
[22:29] <LF|Irssi> If you tell your irc client to not show people joining / parting /quitting you'd be surprised at just how slow it is in here
[22:29] <wos> can anyone tell me how to run two operating systems at the same time?
[22:29] <Slart> wos: you mean in a vm?
[22:29] <Brandano> DasEi: several win32 codecs are 32 bit only
[22:29] <erUSUL> !virtualizers | wos
[22:29] <wos> can anyone tell me how to run two operating systems at the same time? NOT WITHIN EACH OTHER
[22:29] <Brandano> indeo video from most webcam capture tools, for example
[22:29] <DasEi> wos: parallel or same time ?
[22:29] <wos> parallel
[22:29] <erUSUL> wos: imposible
[22:29] <ssmy_> LF|Irssi: how do I tell irssi to do that? I tried...
[22:29] <Slart> wos: I don't think you can do that without special hardware.. no matter what you might have seen on youtube
[22:29] <TuxSympathiser> when I try to set the permissions for all files and subdirectories within a folder in nautilus it doesn't work!
[22:30] <TuxSympathiser> I found a bug report on launchpad over a year old though?
[22:30] <]{53> I think he means dual boot?
[22:30] <erUSUL> ssmy_: /help ignore
[22:30] <LF|Irssi> one sec ssmy_
[22:30] <TuxSympathiser> why hasn't this been fixed though?
[22:30] <DasEi> !dualboot | wos
[22:30] <LF|Irssi> erUSUL: beat me to it
[22:30] <gnutron> ssmy_: type /ignore #ubuntu joins parts quits
[22:31] <wos> DasEi, thats for booting one os at a time. i want to be able to switch from one os to the other
[22:31] <DasEi> wos: so same time, virtual machine > vmware f.e.
[22:31] <ssmy_> thanks guys.
[22:31] <Agrajag_> wos: what you're asking for is virtualization, but you seem to have ruled that out
[22:32] <Slart> wos: where did you come up with this idea?
[22:32] <Agrajag_> The closest thing to what you want would be xen
[22:32] <ssmy_> fsufitch: is the plug all the way in?
[22:32] <Update_Manager> Please help... I was just working on OO Writer and my screen *turned off* or something.... I forced shutdown... I turned laptop back on, and the screen woudlnt come on... I unplugged battery and unplugged from power, and let it sit... then screen come on when i turn it on.  but now   my mouse  has weird black dots on a  1 inch by 1 inch square next to the mouse cursor)  ..... the nvidia driver isnt loading (i think)
[22:32] <DasEi> !virtual | wos
[22:32] <Brandano> you can run several OS'e within a single OS
[22:32] <fsufitch> ssmy_, yes
[22:32] <wos> well i dont want virtualization because i want to be able to watch tv on it
[22:32] <]{53> Update_Manager: Do you see the POST screen?
[22:32] <fsufitch> ssmy_, i used the same plug/speaker with my mp3 player, and there is no static there
[22:32] <jimmygoon> Does anyone have a good VM that won't constantly bog down my system even when I'm not using it
[22:32] <DasEi> wos : get a second pc!
[22:32] <wos> ive got 2 pcs
[22:33] <jimmygoon> or that won't install a bunch of network devices
[22:33] <infested999> you mean ubuntu has something kinda like virtual server 2007?
[22:33] <Brandano> wos: you could get a TV. I mean, I have a TV tuner, but sometimes using the purpose made tool just works better
[22:33] <wos> ive got a tv too
[22:33] <Slart> jimmygoon: depends on what you want to do with it.. virtualbox doesn't use any resources when it's idling
[22:33] <Agrajag> wos: you could watch TV on the non-virtualized system
[22:33] <ssmy_> fsufitch: have you tried muting all of them? seperately? also got to preferences in volume control to make sure you can see all of the tracks.
[22:33] <Update_Manager> ]{53,  the screen is loading fine now, im logged on from the laptop. but i don't think the graphic card is being recognized as "nvidia" anymore ^^;
[22:34] <DasEi> Brandano: tried vlc / amarok on the 32/64 codec problem ?
[22:34] <fsufitch> ssmy_, yeah, ive done that. nothing helps. however i did notice that when i change volume there is also a crackling along with the static
[22:34] <]{53> Did you check System -> Administration -> Hardware drivers Update_Manager?
[22:34] <wos> well i want to be able to record stuff and upload it as torrents for ppl
[22:34] <Brandano> DasEi: VLC works fine on most things, but not Indeo
[22:34] <]{53> lol @ wos.
[22:34] <Brandano> AFAIK only using the original Win32 codecs with mplayer32 really works for this task
[22:34] <wos> while laying on my bed and not having to get up to work on my desktop
[22:35]  * Mustinet cya!
[22:35] <freakout> what was the command to install flash for mozilla
[22:35] <Brandano> wos: I'd really love to have a few gorgeous personal slaves too. While we are wishing we may as well go the whole hog :)
[22:35] <Slart> freakout: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree?
[22:36] <]{53> wos: It seems you are wanting an elaborate setup and it is something you may need to work hard to get.
[22:36] <Update_Manager> ]{53,  theres version 173, 96 177 , clicking  the first 2 say: not in use, clicking 177 says: another version of this driver is in use
[22:36] <DasEi>  freakout:ibex or hardy ?
[22:36] <Slart> wos: why not buy a mini-itx system to do the recording.. shouldn't be to hard with a good tv card
[22:36] <TeraX> which scripting language is mostly use by linux and unix system administrators nowadays perl or python ?
[22:36] <freakout> Slart, yes i want the new flash the flash made just for linux the G something
[22:36] <wos> that would involve more money
[22:36] <Slart> freakout: the 64bit one?
[22:36] <ssmy_> fsufitch: try turning the volume to ~75% on everything. if not, then good luck. g2g
[22:36] <Brandano> I think the main issue is that most recording hardware doesn't have linux drivers
[22:37] <]{53> Update_Manager: can you deactivate/activate it?
[22:37] <chfwiggum> !libglib
[22:37] <chfwiggum> !glib
[22:37] <DasEi> TeraX:c++ I think
[22:37] <Update_Manager> ]{53,  yes, all of them say "activate", the green button
[22:37] <fsufitch> ssmy_, no good, but thanks anyway:)
[22:37] <ert34783> DasEi: scripting language..
[22:37] <]{53> Update_Manager: what model card do you have?
[22:37] <Slart> wos: oh.. you want it for free?.. well.. I think we're back at wishing then.. I don't think you'll be able to do this
[22:37] <freakout> Slack, NO it was a new "thing" that works like a flash
[22:37] <Agrajag> freakout: gnash?
[22:37] <freakout> YES
[22:37] <freakout> :D
[22:37] <Update_Manager> ]{53,  GeForce Go 7300   it's worked fine until this dumb problem ;p
[22:38] <]{53> Update_Manager: Version 177 works for me.
[22:38] <Slart> wow.. never seen anyone happy for finding Gnash =)
[22:38] <wos> this is ubuntu everythings free
[22:38] <freakout> Slack, what is the command :)
[22:38] <Slart> wos: eh.. free as in speech.. not beer
[22:38] <TeraX> DaEI:i would like to meet an admin who use C++ for system administrative tasks
[22:38] <Brandano> I guess I'll reinstall another chroot. I have updated from hardy, and my 32 bit chroot was left with the old release
[22:38] <Update_Manager> ]{53,  it was working (not sure what version), its not a driver problem, because ive been using nvidia propreitary driver for years in UBuntu, but the screen hasn't shutdown like that before... it was like.. i had to "reset" the motherboard before it would work again
[22:39] <DasEi> TeraX:#bash might be a better place
[22:39] <chfwiggum> does anyone know where i find glib-need it for building swfdec. tia
[22:39] <]{53> Update_Manager: Strange maybe it is a hardware thing and not a software thing....
[22:39] <Slart> chfwiggum: isn't there a dev-package available?
[22:39] <TeraX> ok
[22:39] <Alef-0> Hello everybody
[22:40] <xpl0> i have a problem, when i started ubuntu from my pc, in the startup menu i pressed ESC and i opened it from a dos window, but now, its starting as a "shell server" i don,t have the graphical interface anymore.. what should i do?
[22:40] <freakout> !gnash
[22:40] <chfwiggum> Slart: am pretty sure there is-but which one? :)
[22:40] <Brandano> !glib-dev
[22:40] <Update_Manager> ]{53,  I'm going to try sudo nvidia-xconfig  and see what it tells me, see if i can reconfigure it like that. yeah, i just put sysinfo and it still detects the card just fine Wheee!!. The screen is working just fine, but the driver wont work now. Oh well, maybe another reboot! hehe! thank you *nods*
[22:40] <xpl0> i have a problem, when i started ubuntu from my pc, in the startup menu i pressed ESC and i opened it from a dos window, but now, its starting as a "shell server" i don,t have the graphical interface anymore.. what should i do?
[22:40] <Brandano> !libglib
[22:40] <]{53> Update_Manager: No problem, I thought you said it wasn't a driver issue. :p
[22:40] <gda> hi.  i'm having trouble correctly setting up an ftp (vsftpd) user for polycom ip telephones.  i've tried before with proftpd and discovered that i can't use their default username, "PlcmSpIp", so i have a unprivileged user, "poly", setup, but can't move files to its home directory.  i'm pretty new to this, but i'll do my best to keep up if someone can help me.
[22:40] <Brandano> arght!
[22:41] <Slart> !info libglib2.0-dev | chfwiggum, tried this one?
[22:41] <Brandano> ok, last try...
[22:41]  * xpl0 ((((((((((( chalcedony )))))))))))))
[22:41] <Brandano> Ah good find Slart
[22:41] <TopBunny88>  Update_Manager That sounds to me like you might need yto purchase a New system the Dell Scratch nd den store has great deals on used and off lease dell notebooks, Servers and Desktops.
[22:41] <xpl0> i have a problem, when i started ubuntu from my pc, in the startup menu i pressed ESC and i opened it from a dos window, but now, its starting as a "shell server" i don,t have the graphical interface anymore.. what should i do?
[22:41] <Update_Manager> ]{53,  nvidia-xconfig just told me : VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.                       Device section "Configured Video Device" must have a Driver line.
[22:41] <Update_Manager> TopBunny88,  no thanks
[22:41] <Update_Manager> ;p
[22:41] <]{53> Update
[22:41] <dewente> i want to do a netboot sharing my cdrom in the LAN
[22:42] <Slart> xpl0: you've got more problems than that.. you seem to using macros and stuff.. perhaps there is medication for it =)
[22:42] <DasEi>  xpl0: busybox ?
[22:42] <TuxSympathiser> for some reason when I press "apply permissions to enclosed files" in nautilus nothing happens?
[22:42] <getxsick> hi, i would like to add `vbetool vbemode set 3` to be called during back from hibernate...where should i do this? /etc/acpi/resume.d/.....
[22:42] <Update_Manager> TopBunny88,  no thanks, laptop is less than a year old, brand new. not buying new s***
[22:42] <chfwiggum> Slart: thx a lot, my aptitude wouldnt find it for some reason. ! info rocks
[22:42] <]{53> Update_Manager: did you try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[22:42] <xpl0> well on my lappy i have vista and ubuntu, and when i reboot i have the choice between ubuntu and vista
[22:42] <Slart> chfwiggum: you're welcome
[22:42] <Update_Manager> ]{53,  hm, that doesn
[22:42] <xpl0> but when i select ubuntu, its starting as a shell server
[22:42] <Alef-0> Anyone care to share some knowledge? It's not really a "support thing" : I would like to enable my laptop bluetooth while the machine is in "sleep mode", could someone point me the right path so that i can implement this feature?
[22:42] <xpl0> :/
[22:42] <TopBunny88> Update_Manager: Just a suggestion
[22:42] <getxsick> there is 17-video-restore.sh with some related stuff but i'm not really sure with that
[22:43] <Update_Manager> ]{53,  hm, that doesn (oops) doenst work in ibex anymore, does it? i htought it was depreciated
[22:43] <Brandano> You mean" X fails to start"
[22:43] <Update_Manager> TopBunny88, that doesnt solve my issue though ;p
[22:43] <DasEi> !who | xpl0
[22:43] <Slart> Alef-0: I'm not sure your computer can do a lot while sleeping.. I think that's the whole idea
[22:43] <]{53> Update_Manager: Now you are schooling me. :p
[22:43] <xpl0> DasEi ok, can you help me then?
[22:44] <DasEi>  xpl0: what is the cmd-line you get ?
[22:44] <Brandano> xpl0: did it work before?
[22:44] <]{53> Did you look to see if there was a xorg.conf backup file Update_Manager?
[22:44] <xpl0> DasEi Brandano, it was working ok, i even used the compiz kit "sphere"
[22:44] <freakout> wait how do you remove the other workspace
[22:44] <xpl0> DasEi, i have no idea.
[22:44] <Alef-0> Slart: I've a Eepc PC wich is way to portable for me :P and I would like to pair it with my mobile and make the machine "beep" as soon as it looses touch with the mobile phone
[22:44] <wos> does anybody here know anything about the status of the usb bug in intrepid in Qemu?
[22:45] <WebGuest> hey guys
[22:45] <DasEi>  xpl0: ermm, what is sayn above or left to the prompt you boot to ? just a blank screen ?
[22:45] <Update_Manager> ]{53,  I told it to use 177, I'm going to reboot and see what it does. I did click "fix x server" from recovery, and thats how I even got gnome to load.  I clicked "back up xorg " when the gnome / X error msg came up. Somehow it iddnt fully work. Anyway I' m going to reboot and see how it goes... cross fingers, people! thanks for the tips, ]{53   :)
[22:45] <]{53> wos: did you check launchpad?
[22:45] <WebGuest> where are most of the program files located?
[22:45] <WebGuest> var or opt?
[22:45] <zzl> anyone know where Indygun freak is?
[22:45] <xpl0> DasEi no, there is a lot of stuff, too bad i can't start it while beeing here :/
[22:45] <mcphail> WebGuest: /usr/bin
[22:46] <WebGuest> i need to install ubuntu eee onto a 2 gig flash drive but it is 2.2 gigs in size... i have an extra 2 gig to use for the program directory
[22:46] <WebGuest> mcphail: thanks
[22:46] <SherlawkDragon> hey, anyone know where I can get a Shockwave Flash plugin for FireFox??
[22:46] <WebGuest> so /usr would be best
[22:46] <zzl> I need help finding the right driver for wifi on ubuntu 8.10. who can help me?
[22:46] <Ubuntunewb> good news 53
[22:46] <Brandano> xpl0: does it ask you to log in?
[22:46] <Slart> Alef-0: I can't in any way call myself a laptop-expert .. but I think once your eeepc is sleeping it's doing just that.. not running..ie no bluetooth.. you can keep it running but with some kind of powersaving mode (screen turned off, hard drives off etc).. but I doubt you'll be able to run it all day long
[22:46] <Ubuntunewb> that worked its installing now
[22:46] <SherlawkDragon> zzl> what is your card?
[22:46] <BleSS> when I install OpenLdap (slapd ldap-utils) it isn't being installed the config file '/etc/ldap/slapd.conf' by default, is it ok?
[22:46] <Ubuntunewb> it passed the integrity check
[22:46] <xpl0> Brandano no.
[22:46] <zzl> atheros 5007eg
[22:46] <zzl> SherlawkDragon:
[22:46] <]{53> Ubuntunewb: try to install now.
[22:47] <xpl0> Brandano it says something like, shell server... for help type 'help'
[22:47] <DasEi>  xpl0:then reboot and figure out, wherever it freezes, drops you to a cmd-line or to a busy-box and give the last few lines from screen in here
[22:47] <SherlawkDragon> tried searching google for that?
[22:47] <Ubuntunewb> yea i am installing the os now i justwent throught the 7 steps
[22:47] <Brandano> xpl0:  Hmm, that's not nice. Even if X fails to start the rest of the OS should work fine. Looks like the problem is even before completing the boot
[22:47] <xpl0> DasEi ok.
[22:47] <SherlawkDragon> (just a suggestion, I found my Linksys one that way)
[22:47] <zzl> yeah, nothing comes up except for 8.04 SherlawkDragon
[22:47] <xpl0> Brandano DasEi ty, i will restart now.
[22:47] <chfwiggum> !info gobject
[22:48] <chfwiggum> !info gobject-2.0
[22:48] <Ubuntunewb> it didnt give me the option to chose packages is there a way to tell which ones it will install automatically?
[22:48] <zzl> so yeah, anyone get their wifi working under ubuntu 8.10? I have an atheros 5007eg card. Help appreciated
[22:48] <Alef-0> Slart: Battery life time isn't really an issue, the bi problem is I usually carry it on to the university and it has to spend alot of time "Stored within the sleeve" and I guess that rising temperature could be a problem (Don't know if I'm expressing properly)
[22:49] <]{53> Ubuntunewb: There isn't a way to control that as far as I know.
[22:49] <]{53> Ubuntunewb: You can install/uninstall after first boot. ;)
[22:49] <Brandano> Ubuntunewb: well, if it installs too many you can always uninstall what you don't need. You are installing from a disk anyway, so it shouldn't be much of a bother
[22:49] <Brandano> if it was a netinstall it might be different
[22:50] <Slart> Alef-0: I don't think you'll have to worry about heat... btw I think there is a channel especially for the eee-pc..
[22:50] <Slart> !eee
[22:50] <zzl> anyone?
[22:50] <locke> hmm
[22:50] <zzl> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-5007eg-with-madwifi-on-i386-platform.html
[22:50] <]{53> ubottu knows everything....
[22:50] <zzl> this is all I'm seeing. Am I missing something here?
[22:50] <Brandano> !info ia32
[22:50] <]{53> almost like google.
[22:51] <Brandano> !everything
[22:51] <Brandano> see?
[22:51] <Ubuntunewb> no thats cool i was just wanting specific packages so i was curious if it installs them automatically
[22:51] <Ubuntunewb> like samba and the bar that makes it kinda look like macos
[22:52] <Ubuntunewb> mac os
[22:52] <zzl> is this link the right one for 8.10? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-5007eg-with-madwifi-on-i386-platform.html
[22:52] <Ubuntunewb> not sure if you know what im talking about
[22:52] <Brandano> I think samba is default. Compiz too, but i am not sure about wdgets
[22:52] <Alef-0> Slart: I don't belive that It is really an "Eeepc dependent" cuestion, but I will look around, (one last question where should I look in order to find the "sleep script" if there is such thing )many thanks for your time.
[22:52] <]{53> Ubuntunewb: Not sure.
[22:52] <Ubuntunewb> whats compiz
[22:52] <DasEi>  !compiz
[22:52] <SherlawkDragon> hey, anyone know where I can get a Shockwave Flash plugin for FireFox??
[22:52] <]{53> Ubuntunewb: It does all the snazzy desktop effects.
[22:53] <Ubuntunewb> oh ok
[22:53] <mabus> !eee
[22:53] <Ubuntunewb> whats wdgets?
[22:53] <DasEi> SherlawkDragon: see !flash
[22:53] <DasEi> !flash
[22:53] <Brandano> widgets...
[22:53] <]{53> Ubuntunewb: Google?
[22:53] <SherlawkDragon> thanks
[22:53] <Slart> Alef-0: I'm not really sure.. I've never messed with this in linux.. try asking in here or searching the forums
[22:53] <zzl> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-5007eg-with-madwifi-on-i386-platform.html. does this still work?
[22:53] <Brandano> sorry, sometimes I skip a key
[22:53] <erUSUL> SherlawkDragon: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[22:53] <Ubuntunewb> sorry trying to make myself as familiar as i can
[22:53] <chfwiggum> SherlawkDragon: try gnash or maybe swfdec
[22:53] <TopBunny88>  Ubuntunewb J=For fle aring between OS X and Ubuntu just use Net Work File System.
[22:53] <zzl> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-5007eg-with-madwifi-on-i386-platform.html. does this still work?
[22:54] <Brandano> Widgets are things that look nice and don't do very much. Kinda like windows
[22:54] <Alef-0> Slart: I will do that, once again, many thanks
[22:54] <Brandano> mainly they waste resources
[22:54] <]{53> Ubuntunewb: Sometimes you might not have anyone to ask. lol @ Brandano
[22:54] <Slart> Alef-0: you're welcome
[22:54] <Ubuntunewb> oh widgest ok it was misspelled so i didnt pick up on it
[22:54] <TopBunny88> Ubuntunewb: nfskernrl-server nfs-common
[22:54] <zzl> Slart: help me please
[22:54] <Ubuntunewb> nice brandano lol
[22:55] <gopp> !hard link
[22:55] <zzl> !soft link
[22:55] <Slart> zzl: huh? what?
[22:55] <zzl> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-5007eg-with-madwifi-on-i386-platform.html
[22:55] <Ubuntunewb> is compixz the app that does the mac os bar
[22:55] <gopp> I forget what the differentce between a hardlink and a softlink
[22:55] <]{53> !ln
[22:55] <Ubuntunewb> *compiz
[22:55] <zzl> is that the current one for 8.10 Slart ?
[22:55] <Brandano> stop asking ubottu for porn links! :)
[22:55] <Slart> Ubuntunewb: nope. I think it's called.. AWN dock or something like that
[22:55] <Ubuntunewb> yeah yeah yeah thats it
[22:56] <]{53> Ubuntunewb: it is short for avant window navigator
[22:56] <Ubuntunewb> rock on thanks a bu8nch
[22:56] <Ubuntunewb> yes thats it i remember now you guys rock
[22:56] <Slart> zzl: since it was written in january 2008 and 8.10 was released in october 2008 my answer would be.. probably not
[22:56] <]{53> Ubuntunewb: thanks....
[22:57] <Brandano> Btw, what ubottu doesn't know, probably man does
[22:57] <wjdenny> im having trouble with getting hindi characters to show up on flash programs.. (i'm trying to use LiveMocha.com) ..  how would i start looking.. i dont know if this is an adobe issue or an ubuntu issue.
[22:57] <xplo> Brandano, ty for your help but its ok now. :)
[22:57] <Wicked> anyone here a preseed master? I'm haivng trouble with an 8.10 server preseed, can't find the "no automatic updates" option...
[22:58] <Brandano> zzl: but usually you just try "ln -s" with all the various combinations until it works the way you wanted :)
[22:58] <gnutron> gopp: a hardlink is the actual file, a softlink is simply a pointer to the file.
[22:58] <Wicked> !preseed
[22:58] <Brandano> xplo: what do you mean it's ok now?
[22:58] <Brandano> Only one thing is more worrying than when a computer doesn't work. It's when it works and you don't know why it does
[22:59] <gnutron> gopp: a hardlink is a copy of the actual file, to be more accurate.
[22:59] <sharperguy> How do I check all the files in a folder (and subfolders) to find out the total lines of code?
[22:59] <mcphail> gnutron: a hardlink is not a copy of a file
[22:59] <Brandano> gnutron: just to understand this better, it's a mirrored copy?
[23:00] <facefaceface> why is network broken?
[23:00] <gnutron> mcphail: I stand corrected then, can you elaborate?
[23:00] <maxbaldwin> it's not, facefaceface...
[23:00] <]{53> facefaceface: Mine works.
[23:00] <Brandano> facefaceface: are you connecting telephatically?
[23:00] <]{53> facefaceface: Looks like urs does too.
[23:00] <Alex_Gaynor> How would I go about diagnosing a kernel panic, it started happenning this afternoon, and since my system seems to consistantly crash within minutes of booting up?
[23:00] <mcphail> gnutron: the file exists in one place. A hardlink is a reference to that place. A softlink is a reference to the filename
[23:01] <facefaceface> maxbaldwin, when I log in, its not connected, and I see a strange interface, I have to sudo ifdown / up to get it going
[23:01] <]{53> Alex_Gaynor: Have u tested ur memory?
[23:01] <gnutron> mcphail: ok, thankyou for that, sorry about that gopp.
[23:01] <Egon_> Oi pessoal, boa noite
[23:01] <Dante123> program that I believe was first made for KDE gives me this error :  fcc: tpp.c:63: __pthread_tpp_change_priority: Assertion `new_prio == -1 || (new_prio >= __sched_fifo_min_prio && new_prio <= __sched_fifo_max_prio)' failed.
[23:01] <imachine> hi
[23:01] <Alex_Gaynor> ]{53: This system has been fine for months, I guess I can go run the included memtest
[23:01] <facefaceface> also, I miss the taskbar 'network manager' - how can I get it back?
[23:01] <Egon_> Gostaria de saber o que se pode e o que nao se pode dizer aqui
[23:01] <Dante123> however, runs fine on another ubuntu computer
[23:02] <Egon_> alguem poe me responder???
[23:02] <imachine> could someone direct me to a link whre I could sort out the autologin + gnome network manager wpa issue ?
[23:02] <]{53> I would unless you have made any other major changes Alex_Gaynor
[23:02] <shanepardue> I've had dvd playback on soo many machines, but for some reason my laptop isn't playing..I have medibuntu's libdvdcss2 and everything
[23:02] <Egon_> Hi everyone
[23:02] <]{53> Hey Egon_
[23:02] <sharperguy> When would you exactly want a hardlink?
[23:02] <imachine> I don't want to be asked for the keyring password, if I'd already passed the password on login
[23:02] <Egon_> somebody fron brazil here?
[23:02] <imachine> 8.10
[23:02] <Brandano> facefaceface: right mouse button, add to panel...
[23:02] <facefaceface> when I log in, the network is somehow misconfigured - how should I fix that?
[23:02] <mcphail> gnutron: the beuty of hardlinks is that they don't use any more diskspace. For example, check out the incremental backups with rsnapshot
[23:02] <Dante123>  Egon_ que quieres decir?
[23:02] <EvilDaemon> how can I kill a 'zombie process'?
[23:02] <facefaceface> Brandano, ok, then what?
[23:02] <Brandano> EvilDaemon: killing the parent
[23:02] <Egon_> Can i talk about sex here??
[23:02] <]{53> EvilDaemon: kill -9 pid
[23:02] <Egon_> alguem do brasil
[23:03] <Dante123> no, this is computers.....
[23:03] <SherlawkDragon> thanks...
[23:03] <Brandano> Egon_: I don't know that package. What does it do?
[23:03] <facefaceface> Brandano, my point being, I only see Network Monitor, NOT Network Manager
[23:03] <Alex_Gaynor> ]{53: Flashing caps and scroll lock keys are an indicator of a kernel panic correct?
[23:03] <Dante123> Egon_ aqui hablamos computadoras  no el sexo
[23:03] <Brandano> ]{53: won't work with zombies
[23:03] <Egon_> ok,, Sorry !
[23:03] <facefaceface> Brandano, any clue?
[23:03] <]{53> Thanks Brandano sorry EvilDaemon
[23:03] <Dante123> program that I believe was first made for KDE gives me this error :  fcc: tpp.c:63: __pthread_tpp_change_priority: Assertion `new_prio == -1 || (new_prio >= __sched_fifo_min_prio && new_prio <= __sched_fifo_max_prio)' failed.
[23:03] <shoot^> guys, currently running ubuntu server LTS (Hardy). Any convincing reasons to upgrade the server to Ibex (STS), or convincing reasons not to? At the moment I'm tempted because I've got nothing better to do!
[23:03] <]{53> Alex_Gaynor: Idk about that....
[23:04] <Egon_> Good bye all
[23:04] <shanepardue> Why don't have I DVD playback with libdvdcss2 installed?
[23:04] <neo__> hi all
[23:04] <Brandano> zombies are zombies because they can't be killed
[23:04] <facefaceface> when I log in, the network is somehow mis-configured - how should I fix that?
[23:04] <panax> i just started installing ubuntu on this 10 year old computer and i think it crashed in the middle of the installer ><
[23:04] <EvilDaemon> Brandano and ]{53, how can I find out the process? ps aux && kill <pid>? will ps aus list it?
[23:04] <panax> i guess i have to reboot?
[23:04] <Brandano> EvilDaemon: most likely it's a child of X. But you can just safely ignore it
[23:04] <facefaceface> panax, what makes you think it crashed?
[23:04] <]{53> Alex_Gaynor: it seems it is...
[23:04] <panax> its not doing anything
[23:04] <wjdenny> i'm having issues getting hindi text to display on flash pages, and im using ubuntu ibex.. not sure if its an ubuntu issue or an adobe issue.. but it only shows empty blocks instead of characters, yet in other programs I can read and type hindi fine
[23:04] <Brandano> if it's a zombie it won't use resources
[23:04] <neo__> do we have a replacement for adobe flash CS in ubuntu ?
[23:04] <facefaceface> OK, so 3 people ready to mock, but no one to help...
[23:05] <]{53> Alex_Gaynor: No major changes to the system?
[23:05] <EvilDaemon> Brandano: ok, sounds like a deal. thanks.
[23:05] <panax> hard disk isnt being read nor is the cdrom drive doing anything
[23:05] <dichtbijzee> hey, when I start nm-applet on my just upgraded machine from 8.04.1 > 8.10. the icons in bomy Notification Area shift like a millimeter, but no icon pops up. what can i do about that. --verbose doesn't do anything
[23:05] <facefaceface> panax, what does caps lock do?
[23:05] <panax> nothing
[23:05] <facefaceface> (got  a caps loc indicator)
[23:05] <panax> xD
[23:05] <facefaceface> then its prolly crashed
[23:05] <facefaceface> num lock?
[23:05] <panax> nope
[23:05] <]{53> EvilDaemon: ps aux | grep name
[23:05] <panax> keyboard non responsive
[23:05] <Brandano> EvilDaemon: or you can just restart X with CTRL+SHIFT+BackSpace. Will kill everything you have in your GUI though
[23:05] <panax> nothing responds
[23:06] <Dante123> program that I believe was first made for KDE gives me this error :  fcc: tpp.c:63: __pthread_tpp_change_priority: Assertion `new_prio == -1 || (new_prio >= __sched_fifo_min_prio && new_prio <= __sched_fifo_max_prio)' failed.
[23:06] <Alex_Gaynor> ]{53: Are there any logs I can check?
[23:06] <facefaceface> panax, if caps lock fails its usually borked
[23:06] <panax> is it a better idea to partition wiht knoppix live cd before using the installer than letting the ubuntu installer partition?
[23:06] <Thorsten11> exit
[23:06] <Brandano> I use numlock, but the principle is the same
[23:06] <Slart> panax: unless you like the knoppix partitioner better I don't see a reason
[23:06] <facefaceface> panax, use ubuntu, but then select manual partition
[23:07] <]{53> Alex_Gaynor: /var/log/dmesg
[23:07] <]{53> Alex_Gaynor: /var/log/syslog
[23:07] <dichtbijzee> panax, gparted is on the live-cd
[23:07] <DasEi> panax:if your familiar with it, maybe format whole drive to ext3 once, but then use installers tools
[23:07] <robert__> how do i run windows apps in ubunta
[23:07] <Slart> !wine | robert__
[23:07] <panax> no im trying to dual boot
[23:07] <]{53> Alex_Gaynor: /var/log/messages
[23:07] <Dante123> program starts...and I get the startup logo....but then it never starts.....error is fcc: tpp.c:63: __pthread_tpp_change_priority: Assertion `new_prio == -1 || (new_prio >= __sched_fifo_min_prio && new_prio <= __sched_fifo_max_prio)' failed.
[23:07] <DasEi> !virtual | robert__
[23:07] <dichtbijzee> hey, when I start nm-applet on my just upgraded machine from 8.04.1 > 8.10. the icons in my Notification Area shift like a millimeter, but no icon pops up. what can i do about that. --verbose doesn't do anything
[23:07] <facefaceface> panax, got a free partition ?
[23:08] <panax> not yet
[23:08] <xplo> When i am on a file and i move my mouse over the text too fast, its scrolling up... how can i disable that :/
[23:08] <Alef-0> Does anyone know if it is possible to activate a service like bluetooth while the machine is in sleep mode?
[23:08] <facefaceface> dichtbijzee, me got nm problems too
[23:08] <lakrus> Great instrucution for getting wine up and running here: http://winehq.org/site/download-deb
[23:08] <facefaceface> no one here seems to care unless they can mock you
[23:08] <panax> ok looks like it didnt overwrite windows :D
[23:08] <Dante123> I think it has something to do with running KDE app under Gnome?  Any suggestions?
[23:08] <shanepardue> What do I need other than libdvdcss2 to play dvd's? I'm having issues on a laptop..desktop works fine
[23:08] <Brandano> facefaceface: I am looking into it
[23:09] <facefaceface> Brandano, :DDDD
[23:09] <Dante123> Again the error is:  fcc: tpp.c:63: __pthread_tpp_change_priority: Assertion `new_prio == -1 || (new_prio >= __sched_fifo_min_prio && new_prio <= __sched_fifo_max_prio)' failed.
[23:09] <Brandano> facefaceface: but my etwork is set up in DHCP, so I don't usually have to do much on the client side
[23:09] <facefaceface> panax, resizing partitions is not my specialty
[23:09] <DasEi> !dvd | shanepardue:
[23:09] <dichtbijzee> Brandano, tia
[23:09] <DasEi>  shanepardue: install vlc player
[23:09] <xplo> Brandano When i am on a file and i move my mouse over the text too fast, its scrolling up... how can i disable that :/
[23:09] <facefaceface> Brandano, I'd be happy if it just worked when i logged in
[23:09] <Slart> shanepardue: afaik that's all you need.. apart from some kind of software to play it
[23:10] <shanepardue> DasEi: I am using VLC..getting errors
[23:10] <DasEi>  shanepardue: so its sth else, as vlc brings all needed codecs
[23:10] <shanepardue> ubottu: I got all the codecs..it's weird
[23:10] <facefaceface> am I back in the room?
[23:11] <xplo> DasEi When i am on a file and i move my mouse over the text too fast, its scrolling up... how can i disable that :/
[23:11] <facefaceface> lemmy try logging out and back in again
[23:11] <Brandano> facefaceface: you say you have no "Network Configuration" in System>Preferences?
[23:11] <xplo> DasEi, or its changind the desktop to another one.
[23:11] <facefaceface> Brandano, I do have that
[23:11] <dichtbijzee> Brandano, i dont
[23:11] <DasEi> xpl0:mouse gestures ? never had this
[23:11] <dichtbijzee> brandano whait i do
[23:11] <facefaceface> Brandano, but its under System>admin
[23:11] <shanepardue> http://paste2.org/p/107454
[23:12] <Alef-0> Anyone care to help? (need to know If I can enable the bluetooth service whille in sleep mode)
[23:12] <Brandano> facefaceface: probably I still have the hardy menu's?
[23:12] <facefaceface> System>admin>network
[23:12] <shanepardue> These are my errors I get in VLC playing dvd http://paste2.org/p/107454
[23:12] <facefaceface> 8.04 here...
[23:13] <facefaceface> anyway, I'm gonna try logging out and in... ty for help Brandano
[23:13] <Brandano> or you have the hardy menu and I have the 8.10 ones::: same thing really
[23:13] <Dante123> how to set priority for an app?
[23:14] <rick_astley> where to get a program for ubuntu that lets me tell my computer what to do
[23:14] <dichtbijzee> Brandano, i do have the 8.10 network connections before me now. but no unlock button. or wifi scanning
[23:14] <rick_astley> for example i want to say "back up my files and have it bak up my files
[23:14] <hexbase> hi ppl
[23:14] <wjdenny> i'm having issues getting hindi text to display on flash pages, and im using ubuntu ibex.. not sure if its an ubuntu issue or an adobe issue.. but it only shows empty blocks instead of characters, yet in other programs I can read and type hindi/devanagari  fine
[23:14] <imachine> so, anyone ?
[23:15] <imachine> can you guys help me sort this key madness out ?
[23:15] <rick_astley> imachine, where to get a program for ubuntu that lets me tell my computer what to do?
[23:15] <DasEi>  shanepardue:I have no certain idea, but I remember a case we had here where some machines / standalone players did the vid, but pc didn't, might have sth to do with the drive
[23:15] <Brandano> rick_astley: thanks, I thought I'd never get to use the /ignore feature...
[23:15] <shanepardue> DasEi: Interesting. Thanks for the tip..that sucks though
[23:15] <]{53> rick_astley: have some respect.
[23:16] <rick_astley> any idea Brandano ?
[23:16]  * Brandano gives rick_astley the benefit of doubt for voice commands...
[23:16] <imachine> I got this issue where my unprivileged account "just works" when I add a new WPA wireless key to gnome-network-manager, but on my admin account, I have a problem having key manager asking me for a default password to the key database.
[23:16] <imachine> I don't want that nor need taht.
[23:16] <rick_astley> it has the feature in windows i forget what they call it
[23:16] <imachine> how can I disable it? I'm on 8.10
[23:16] <imachine> rick_astley, write one up.
[23:16] <Brandano> dichtbijzee: I have never fought with wifi cards on linux
[23:16] <Alef-0> Does anyone know if it is possible to activate bluetooth while in sleep mode?
[23:17] <rick_astley> like voice access or something
[23:17] <DasEi>  shanepardue:you could try to transfer the file (iso) from another machine , mount it and so check again on laptop
[23:17] <Yggdrasil> hello can somone help me , my old install of ubuntu that has been upgraded a billion times. the tray is broken, so like if i minimize say ktorrent or pidgen its supposed to go to a tray it just disapears.
[23:17] <imachine> rick_astley, there's orca if you want something similar, but that works the other way about, it's an onscreen reader.
[23:17] <hexbase> i cant mount a hard disk using fstab. It says only root can mount the disk
[23:17] <rick_astley> hmm orca i will give taht a try
[23:17] <Brandano> dichtbijzee: I think you just don't have the wifi drivers installed. I think usually wifi support is via ndiswrapper
[23:17] <imachine> rick_astley, and teh software you refer to from windows, it's been introduced into the vista OS, and it sucks afaik :-)
[23:17] <DasEi>  shanepardue:just to see if it's the drive or the media format
[23:17] <]{53> Yggdrasil: Might be best to do a fresh install.....
[23:17] <Yggdrasil> yar
[23:17] <imachine> rick_astley, there's a fun video on youtube about it.
[23:17] <imachine> ;]
[23:17] <rick_astley> it can take notes as you talk imachine  :D
[23:17] <shanepardue> DasEi: I was able to get the dvd working on another machine so it makes sense..I was just hoping it was software related
[23:17] <imachine> rick_astley, honestly tho, for voice commands, I'd be suggesting python and something fun.
[23:18] <rick_astley> i wrote a paper using voice command
[23:18] <rick_astley> in vista
[23:18] <Yggdrasil> i wonder whats that thing called ?
[23:18] <nextstate> I want to use Blue-Ray for backing up data. How supported is Blue-Ray in Ubuntu/Linux?
[23:18] <imachine> rick_astley, and just write something up yourself.
[23:18] <dichtbijzee> Brandano, oh, my wifi works for sure, its an intel! but no scanning. i can do some scanning on the command line. but the nm-applet has the fancy airport like dropdown menu
[23:18] <imachine> rick_astley, I wonder if it'd recognize me accent well
[23:18] <imachine> :]
[23:18] <imachine> it'd prolly go haywire
[23:18] <rick_astley> well i want the program in ubuntu to save me some writing and typing
[23:18] <rick_astley> hehe probably imachine lol
[23:18] <DasEi>  shanepardue:do you have a external usb or a network between these machines to transfer 5-9 GB ?
[23:18] <DasEi> *do
[23:18] <imachine> rick_astley, yeah I dig. check out the accessability programs then.
[23:19] <Brandano> so far the bet way to input text in a computer is typing
[23:19] <imachine> rick_astley, mebb someone's had a similar track of thought as you
[23:19] <imachine> :]
[23:19] <Brandano> it's not that hard when you get used to it
[23:19] <rick_astley> cool thx much imachine
[23:19] <Alef-0> Does anyone know if it is possible to activate bluetooth while in sleep mode?
[23:19] <imachine> Brandano, nonetheless, speech is faster.
[23:19] <imachine> rick_astley, nay bother
[23:19] <imachine> rick_astley, cheers
[23:19] <danand> !info bitchx | danand
[23:19] <Brandano> depends
[23:19] <shanepardue> DasEi: Oh yeah, I got ways..thanks
[23:19] <danand> great
[23:19] <hexbase> i cant mount a hard disk using fstab. It says only root can mount the disk
[23:19] <hexbase> i cant mount a hard disk using fstab. It says only root can mount the disk
[23:19] <hexbase> i cant mount a hard disk using fstab. It says only root can mount the disk
[23:19] <hexbase> i cant mount a hard disk using fstab. It says only root can mount the disk
[23:19] <imachine> whoosh
[23:19] <Brandano> stenography would be even faster
[23:19] <LF|Irssi> enough
[23:19] <imachine> /smack hexbase
[23:20] <rick_astley> voice command is pretty bitchin if you get used to it but its kinda weird if another people is in the room
[23:20] <]{53> hexbase: watch the spamming.
[23:20] <imachine> Brandano, reading straight out the brain ?
[23:20] <LF|Irssi>  /ignore hexbase
[23:20] <rick_astley> and your like "open documents" and their like 'whut?'
[23:20] <Alef-0> hexbase: ?sudo?
[23:20] <imachine> Brandano, they've tried commanding jet planes in the us air force.
[23:20] <Brandano> imachine: nope, using a keyboard with less than 10 keys
[23:20] <dichtbijzee> Brandano, thanks at least for the network properties.
[23:20] <^Cheeky> can anyone shed some light. please, trying to connect to my virtual box using the connect to, under places ; but ... it does not connect, when i tried to ping my ip, of the virtual machine , it does connect either, can anyone give me a suggestion?
[23:20] <]{53> !sudo | hexbase
[23:20] <imachine> Brandano, with some devices like a helmet... reading the brainwaves.
[23:21] <hexbase> thats not the problem
[23:21] <DasEi> !fstab | hexbase
[23:21] <Brandano> since the stenographer must be quicker than the person doing the speaking, he can type faster
[23:21] <imachine> Brandano, it's spot on really, but needs the aircraft pilot to be quite concentrated.
[23:21] <rick_astley> if it could read my brain wave that would be super
[23:21] <imachine> rick_astley, well it was simple 'left right up down' stuff
[23:21] <Brandano> imachine: I know, you have to think in russian
[23:21] <imachine> "simple"
[23:21] <]{53> lol @ imachine
[23:21] <imachine> Brandano, not a problem ;]
[23:21] <rick_astley> hmm i only know english then
[23:21] <Alef-0> Does anyone know if it is possible to activate bluetooth while in sleep mode?
[23:22]  * Brandano watches as that movie erference flies by...
[23:22] <rick_astley> we need an american version of this brain wave things ;)
[23:22] <johan_> Hi, I'm running the following command to unrar all *.r00 files: 'find . | grep .r00 | xargs unrar e', but that dosn't work - do anyone have a better solution?
[23:22] <imachine> ]{53, why lol mate, the idea's good.
[23:22] <imachine> ]{53, it's the pebkac that causes failure.
[23:22] <imachine> pilot's got a bad day thinks I'd nail that fucker
[23:22] <imachine> bang
[23:22] <]{53> johan_:  do you have unrar installed?
[23:22] <rick_astley> seems dangerous
[23:22] <imachine> a rocket gets launched
[23:22] <imachine> tsk tsk
[23:22] <imachine> ;]
[23:22] <johan_> ]{53: yepp, I get:
[23:22] <rick_astley> did they test this thing
[23:22] <Lloyd> sigh
[23:23] <johan_> Extracting from ./South.Park.S03.DVDRip.XviD-BABAR/South.Park.S03E17.iNTERNAL.DVDRip.XviD-BABAR/south.park.s03e17.internal.dvdrip.xvid-babar.r08
[23:23] <johan_> No files to extract
[23:23] <Brandano> imachine: easier to give the pilot a control device. A joystick with a lot of buttons seems to work fine. It's vaguely allusive too, and military types seem to like that
[23:23] <imachine> ahh, right, this is a family friendly channel.
[23:23] <johan_> that's the first filename
[23:23] <imachine> sorry families.
[23:23] <imachine> ;]
[23:23] <innovate2000> "failed to join domain: failed to get DC for domain BLAH.LOCAL" issue in Intrepid - anyone else solve this?  "net ads lookup dc" and "net ads info" work fine. see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6252005 (entry by DouglasK on pg 18)
[23:23] <imachine> Brandano, meh.
[23:23] <imachine> Brandano, dunno. never flew a plane.
[23:23] <]{53> johan_: I am not sure of the command, but there should be a main .rar file that you can extract from in the GUI.
[23:23] <Alef-0> ]{53: Got a spare minute?
[23:23] <imachine> Brandano, I've heard about gliders tho, those seem to be cool.
[23:23] <rick_astley> i got a joystick for my PC
[23:23] <Brandano> the EF2000 has voice commands, but only for non-critical tasks
[23:23] <]{53> Alef-0: sure pm me.
[23:23] <rick_astley> i would rather have voice command for the XPlane Game though
[23:23] <imachine> Brandano, it appears that you can glide for quite some time.
[23:24] <]{53> rick_astley: get a life..
[23:24] <imachine> Brandano, there's these warm air ducts naturally existing over earth.
[23:24] <Brandano> imachine: given the right conditions, you can glide forever
[23:24] <johan_> ]{53: the command is 'unrar e <file>', and it works fine if I do it manually, but as soon as I want to do with each .r00 file, I get that error.
[23:24] <benoka> my sound doesn't work. i recently installed gspca and "played" with pc speaker (tht is back now)
[23:24] <led> where is the login window theme located in the file sys
[23:24] <imachine> Brandano, and if you find them, they wind you up for free :)
[23:24] <Brandano> you can slope soar on mountain ranges
[23:24] <rick_astley> uh thx J{53
[23:24]  * Brandano is an aviation geek
[23:24] <rick_astley> any other useful comment today
[23:24] <imachine> Brandano, in effect, you can go on about 400-500 kilometers.
[23:24] <imachine> it's spot on really.
[23:24] <imachine> Brandano, I never realized.
[23:25] <Brandano> can tell apart most of the planes that fly locally from the sound they make
[23:25] <imachine> Brandano, earth is amazing.
[23:25] <MatBoy> ah Ubuntu has issues with php and error logging :S
[23:25] <rick_astley> is this where we all hold hands and sing the cure the world song
[23:25] <imachine> here we are at our computers, drinking our heads silly, I wonder how much cool stuff we're unaware of.
[23:25] <]{53> johan_: u need to unrar the rar file, not the .r00 files.
[23:25] <Brandano> incidentally, anyone knows of a viable way to program an Hotas Cougar on Linux?
[23:26] <imachine> rick_astley, nah just getting thoughtful :}
[23:26] <led> where is the login window theme located in the file sys?
[23:26] <Brandano> I do have an aplet to upload calibration data and axis assignment profile
[23:26] <imachine> I'll prolly finish of my heineken and pisso f to bed.
[23:26] <rick_astley> haha;)
[23:26] <imachine> breaking something on my server before that.
[23:26] <Brandano> I suppose the same code base could be used to upload compiled programs on the device
[23:26] <led> where is the login window theme located in the file sys?  /usr/share something?
[23:26] <johan_> ]{53: That does not matter, as it gives me the same error - and you can do 'unrar e <file>.r00', which works.
[23:26] <imachine> Brandano, what's a Hotas Cougar ?
[23:27] <Brandano> led: there's a login window manager in the user preferences
[23:27] <johan_> But now I got alot of paths via "list", and proceed them via xargs which does not work
[23:27] <imachine> sounds like a crappy MILF p0rn star nickname.
[23:27] <Brandano> imachine: big, expensive joystick
[23:27] <]{53> johan_: is it password protected? It also maybe corrupt.
[23:27] <rick_astley> do you guys use bitmap or truetype font in your gnome terminal
[23:27] <imachine> close enough :)
[23:27] <led> I know that but in the filesystem where is the folder
[23:27] <imachine> rick_astley, trutype all the way bro
[23:27] <imachine> rick_astley, whateve'rs default
[23:27] <rick_astley> hmm
[23:28] <Brandano> imachine:  it's an exact size replica of an F16 stick and throttle
[23:28] <imachine> rick_astley, if I need my dose of oldskool, I got a nokia phone with ssh on it.
[23:28] <imachine> it serves me right with tiny crap fonts.
[23:28] <rick_astley> thats pretty kickass Brandano how much did it cost
[23:28] <Brandano> but the original is molded in resin, while the cougar is cast out of metal
[23:28] <imachine> or I can always press ^+f1
[23:28] <imachine> ;]
[23:28] <imachine> Brandano, okay
[23:28] <Brandano> when I bought it about 200 euro's
[23:28] <imachine> Brandano, resin being lighter ?
[23:28] <rick_astley> lol that nokia with the whole keyboard?
[23:28] <rick_astley> that folds out
[23:28] <imachine> rick_astley, nah, e66
[23:29] <imachine> slider phone.
[23:29] <rick_astley> awwwh
[23:29] <imachine> it's phony
[23:29] <Brandano> imachine: lighter, easier to work with...
[23:29] <imachine> Brandano, aright.
[23:29] <imachine> well
[23:29] <imachine> I like two wheels
[23:29] <johan_> ]{53: Nope, as I can do it one by one, but as soon as I want to do all of them - it does not work
[23:29] <Brandano> imachine: the cougar is the only replica that is more original than the original :)
[23:29] <imachine> but maybe that will grow into two wings at some time.
[23:29] <imachine> maybe I'll get a 1987 Honda CB450S
[23:29] <]{53> johan_: and u tried it in the GUI?
[23:29] <imachine> and restore it.
[23:30] <imachine> really nice bike.
[23:30] <Brandano> imachine: there's less things to slam into when flying, but they are bigger and you can slam into them faster
[23:30] <bahadunn> anyone got a BADSIG signing key today when doing updates?
[23:30] <johan_> ]{53: Yepp, but now it seems to be working, without using the xargs - using another way :)
[23:30] <imachine> Brandano, yeah, big as the earth.
[23:30] <johan_> thanks anyway
[23:30] <DasEi> bahadunn: : nope
[23:30] <]{53> johan_: please enlighten me.
[23:30] <imachine> Brandano, plus, when driving, you feel the ground below you
[23:30] <Dante123> anyone in here help me fix app that runs fine on some ubuntu pc's but wont start on others?  I believe it is because app was first developed for KDE and has trouble starting on gnome
[23:30] <imachine> tho that depends on the speeds you take actually
[23:30] <imachine> if you got a massive sports bike
[23:30] <Brandano> you feel the ground below you when you fly as well
[23:31] <imachine> the speeds are so that you prolly don't feel much, more like gliding.
[23:31] <Brandano> usually with a sense of rejection...
[23:31]  * ]{53 notices a lot of off topic chat.......
[23:31] <MatBoy> more people issues with php error logging and ubuntu ?
[23:31] <imachine> ]{53, sure so!
[23:31] <imachine> ]{53, nobody's answering my ontopic questions.
[23:31] <LjL> !offtopic | imachine
[23:31] <amikrop> Hi. I tried to burn an ISO image with Brasero, but I got the following errors: http://pastebin.com/m25222cab
[23:31] <Brandano> ]{53: I agree, sorry for that
[23:31] <imachine> so I stick to offtopic.
[23:31] <johan_> ]{53: for i in `find . | grep .r00`; do unrar e "$i"; done
[23:31] <LjL> imachine: not a good enough excuse, please stay ontopic anyway...
[23:31] <Dante123> or is there another forum better for my question on why app doesnt work under gnome/ubuntu
[23:31] <Kmachine> hello.. is this a help channel?
[23:32] <johan_> ]{53: now it's unpacking all my episodes (.r00) into root folder :)
[23:32] <LjL> Kmachine: yes
[23:32] <Kmachine> I have a problem
[23:32] <]{53> try #ubuntu-offtopic we have a blast in thee. Thanks for the info johan_!
[23:32] <]{53> *there
[23:32] <imachine> LjL, okay, could you tell me then, how I can make ubuntu 8.10 not ask me for a password to a key database, whenever logging on and logging onto a wpa-enabled wireless network ?
[23:32] <LF|Irssi> !ask | Kmachine
[23:32] <johan_> ]{53: yw
[23:32] <imachine> LjL, it works fine on another account on this box.
[23:32] <Kmachine> When I start GRUB and select the Recovery Mod, I get the message "Error:32"
[23:32] <imachine> dunno why it doesn't work on this one.
[23:33] <LjL> imachine: are you asked for a login password?
[23:33] <Kmachine> no
[23:33] <johan_> ]{53: or was that sarcasam? :D
[23:33] <imachine> LjL, no, for a password to the key database.
[23:33] <Kmachine> That's the problem
[23:33] <]{53> johan_: no it was not. I am def. not a know it all. ;)
[23:33] <LooCypher> evning
[23:33] <LjL> imachine: if you have set your Ubuntu *not* to ask a login password, then you *will* be asked the keyring password.
[23:33] <johan_> okay :)
[23:33] <amikrop> I tried to burn an ISO image with Brasero, but I got the following errors: http://pastebin.com/m25222cab Any help, please?
[23:34] <imachine> LjL, don't remember; maybe in haste. how can I make it ask for the login pass?
[23:34] <KrispyKreme> anyone have atheros 5007 Intrepid Ibex drivers?
[23:34] <Kmachine> I don't get asked anything
[23:34] <JmCourir> Hi ! I try to remove the vmware-server-distrib because I have a bug with it. what is the command to remove this ? I have install that with sudo ./vmware-install.pl ..is there any way to uninstall ?
[23:34] <Kmachine> I've modified the menu.lst
[23:35] <Kmachine> I modified to have a password for the Recovery mode, and since then I have the error 32
[23:35] <mcphail> KrispyKreme: i don't have that card, but have you looked at the 8.10 release notes?
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[23:35] <rrplay> Kmachine: >>do you still have the original menu.1st in /boot/grub ??
[23:36] <Kmachine> no... I haven't made a backuo
[23:36] <LjL> imachine: of course you can. System / Administration / Login window / Security / Enable automatic login
[23:36] <nickrud_> JmCourir, there's no specific ubuntu way to remove it; your best bet is the vmware site
[23:36] <imachine> LjL, er, that's not what I mean.
[23:36] <imachine> LjL, I want it to ask for a password during login.
[23:36] <LjL> imachine: yes, unselect the checkbox that i just mentioned above, and it will ask it.
[23:36] <imachine> LjL, just, I want pam to use that particular password for authorizing onto wifi later on.
[23:36] <Kmachine> Ok
[23:37] <imachine> LjL, it's unchecked; I never turned it on :)
[23:37] <mezquitale> !upgrade
[23:37] <amikrop> I tried to burn an ISO image with Brasero, but I got the following errors: http://pastebin.com/m25222cab Any help, please?
[23:37] <LjL> imachine: err... that's exactly the reason why i asked if you *were* asked for a login password to begin with.
[23:37] <imachine> it asks me for the password on login in gdm ofcourse; it just asks me once more for the password to the key database once I log in.
[23:37] <LjL> imachine: anyway... see if "libpam-gnome-keyring" is installed
[23:37] <imachine> LjL, it works on my other account on this box.
[23:37] <talaor> Out of a sudden compiz stops to work, I only got two desktops (instead of the desktop cube) and no effects until I restart. What could have caused this and how can I restart compiz without logging out?
[23:37] <imachine> so it's not system-wide; rather my local users configuration,
[23:38] <nickrud_> amikrop, I'm no brasero master, or wodim: but line 217 there mentions a segfault. I'm pretty sure that's where things fail for you
[23:38] <imachine> talaor, system,. preferences, looks.
[23:38] <Kmachine> Thanks!
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> talaor: you need to make the desktop 4 desktops wide
[23:38] <imachine> talaor, then set it up so desktop effects are enabled.
[23:38] <vancomycin> i was trying to update restricted drivers - was searching through the forums, couldn't get video to show up in vlc / now i have a brokencount package manager error - / installed packages have unmet dependencies / tried sudo apt-get clean in terminal, error : unable to lock download directory / also when trying to get package manager : unable to get exclusive lock - oops, what did i do ? and how can i get it fixed
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> talaor: you have what is known as a flippy
[23:38] <amikrop> nickrud: I may have a problematic CD drive (writer). I use a laptop.
[23:38] <nickrud_> amikrop, or so I interpret that, segmentation fault 11 is famouse
[23:38] <imachine> it (ubuntu) prolly disabled it for some errorous reason.
[23:38] <talaor> imachine: there's no "looks" option in my preferences menu
[23:39] <LjL> imachine: then i'm not sure, but if you go to Preferences / Passwords and Encryption, does it say "automatically unlocked when user logs in" for "login"?
[23:39] <imachine> talaor, sory, I was translating
[23:39] <nickrud_> amikrop, try a different burning program: gnomebaker, or nautilus
[23:39] <^Cheeky> cany anyone please help me with connecting to my virtual box, when iam in ubuntu 8.04. i tried connecting to it through places connect to server windows share but gives me an error about not able to mount windows share, can anyone help me ?
[23:40] <imachine> LjL, duno
[23:40] <imachine> there's "default key"
[23:40] <imachine> and pgp passwords.
[23:40] <Brandano> talaor: appearance
[23:40] <imachine> LjL, is taht the correct place?
[23:40] <LjL> imachine: in the first tab, "password keyrings"
[23:40] <KrispyKreme_> anyone know how to get wifi for atheros 5007eg on intrepid ibex?
[23:40] <imachine> I have two tabs; PGP Passwords and Encryption.
[23:41] <LjL> imachine: then you're missing quite a few tabs...
[23:41] <LjL> imachine: unless that's a change in intrepid, since i'm on hardy
[23:41] <imachine> LjL, hang on let me log on as another user
[23:41] <imachine> LjL, probably!
[23:41] <imachine> LjL, since I updated to intrepid just a day ago ;[
[23:41] <imachine> hang on a sec please
[23:42] <kilian_> kilian
[23:42] <amikrop> nickrud: ok
[23:43] <wjdenny> i'm having issues getting hindi text to display on flash pages, and im using ubuntu ibex.. not sure if its an ubuntu issue or an adobe issue.. but it only shows empty blocks instead of characters, yet in other programs I can read and type hindi/devanagari  fine
[23:43] <nickrud_> LjL, where are you checking these passwords at, for later reference?
[23:43] <Myrtti> wjdenny: you're missing a font
[23:43] <xplo> how can i stop the scrolling with the mouse, i mean, when i go over a channel window with my mouse cursor, its scrolling auto ... nd this sucks.. if someone knows where to go it would be neat.
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> xplo: what program?
[23:44] <wjdenny> Myrtti: im not sure what i would be missing.. i have ttf-indic-fonts and tff-devanagari-fonts installed.. any suggestions?
[23:44] <LjL> nickrud_, i have "Encryption and Keyrings" in Preferences and it's got a "Password Keyrings" tab, where the only entry is "login - Automatically unlocked when user logs in"
[23:44] <imachine> LjL, it's exact the same on the other user.
[23:44] <xplo> ActionParsnip a textfile or mirc
[23:44] <xplo> anything with text more then one page
[23:44] <Myrtti> wjdenny: if those fonts aren't used by the author of the flash, then they wouldn't show.
[23:45] <xplo> ActionParsnip, its something like auto scroll
[23:45] <imachine> let me log out ehh
[23:45] <xplo> ActionParsnip, nevermind i found it
[23:45] <nickrud_> LjL, ok, on mine I have two tabs, Encryption and PGP Passphrases, with the only option 'None. Prompt for a passphrase' on the Encryption tab.
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> xplo: id ask in ##windows, its a windows app
[23:45] <]{53> xplo: I think he meant what chat client...
[23:45] <wjdenny> Myrtti: i see.. so just install everything i can find and hope i get one right then.
[23:46] <nickrud_> LjL, intrepid of course
[23:46] <Myrtti> wjdenny: that would be an option, but in general, the problem is with Adobe/the flash author
[23:46] <LjL> nickrud_: well then it's clearly been changed since hardy
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> xplo: why dont you use one of the million irc clients that run native to linux rather than nagware mirc?
[23:46] <wjdenny> Myrtti: thanks
[23:46] <test_> hi
[23:47] <]{53> hey test_
[23:47] <nickrud_> LjL, yeah, caught by the flow of releases again :) . I've lost track myself of how the desktop keyring is handled since somewhere near gutsy
[23:47] <]{53> test_, do you need help?
[23:47] <LjL> nickrud_: sometimes, i'd so love if they'd make something good and solid, and stuck to it </rant>
[23:48] <test_> Hi, I'm actually running this in virtualbox, trying to learn about ubuntu
[23:48] <ionicz> where do i get beryl ??
[23:48] <LjL> !beryl | ionicz
[23:48] <nickrud_> LjL, the itch will never cease.
[23:48] <]{53> test_: do you have a question?
[23:48]  * Alef-0 Over And Out
[23:48] <chacha> where can i buy and sell???
[23:48] <chacha> where can i buy and sell???
[23:48] <LjL> chacha: .....?
[23:48] <ron2> this is sort of a weird question, but is there a command that tells what shell is currently running?
[23:48] <chacha> where can i buy and sell???
[23:48] <xplo> ActionParsnip, because i am a kinda good mirc coder, and i just jumped on ubuntu, i need to learn xchat pearl coding
[23:48] <ionicz> where do i get compiz?
[23:48] <chacha> yah
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> xplo: bitchx allows scripting
[23:48] <KrispyKreme_> sudo apt-get install compiz
[23:48] <LjL> ionicz: it's installed by default.
[23:49] <ron2> xplo, mirc is scripting.
[23:49] <mrwes> b00m!
[23:49] <test_> How much software does wine support?
[23:49] <ionicz> ohh
[23:49] <LjL> !compiz | ionicz
[23:49] <Myrtti> ActionParsnip: bitchx isn't supported anymore
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> test_: theres a db of wine compatible apps at winehq
[23:49] <mrwes> why not run ircii :)
[23:49] <Myrtti> ActionParsnip: not in ubuntu atleast
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> Myrtti: wow, i feel old now
[23:49] <ron2> ircii is awesome
[23:49] <ron2> i started out on that
[23:49] <]{53> iocicz - go to System -> Preferences  -> Appearance. Then go to the Visual Effects tab.
[23:49] <Myrtti> I've used irssi since 2002
[23:49] <test_> thanks, how is the performance in 3D?
[23:49] <ron2> i'd use irssi if i knew a bit of perl
[23:50] <rockyrock> i have problem but i don't know what causes the problem! My problem is that sometimes when i open a website, firefox gets so slow and something looks eating my processor! I dunno if that problem from my Graphics card. What do suggest guys?
[23:50] <]{53> test_: good if you have a 3D card, but bad in a VM.
[23:50] <mrwes> ircii and lynx :) both rox
[23:50] <mrwes> heh
[23:50] <chacha> ljl
[23:50] <chacha> ljl
[23:50] <chacha> where can i buy and sell???
[23:50] <FloodBot3> chacha: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:50] <node357> my 8.10 install has been stuck on "scanning the mirror" for about 30 minutes :(
[23:50] <ron2> nobody knows if there's a command that tells what the current shell running is?
[23:50] <Myrtti> chacha: buy and sell *WHAT*
[23:50] <test_> I know, I try enabling the 'special effects', but it never works..
[23:50] <]{53> chacha - you are going to have to explain further......
[23:50] <mrwes> kb00m!
[23:51] <]{53> test_: This might not work in a VM.
[23:51] <node357> ron2, try ps
[23:51] <mrwes> kb that ass will ya
[23:51] <ron2> what??? ps? you've gotta be kidding me
[23:51] <toastedmilk> what's the default gconf-editor value for an ipod mount?
[23:51] <LjL> ron2: in bash, "echo $SHELL" works, not sure if it's very universal though
[23:51] <LjL> mrwes: that's completely unwarranted.
[23:51] <test_> Yes, even with guest additions installed.
[23:51] <ron2> yeah env. vars aren't always gauranteed standard
[23:51] <ron2> I need something fairly standard
[23:51] <test_> maybe if I give it more RAM/GRAM
[23:51] <toastedmilk> what's the default gconf-editor value for an ipod mount?
[23:52] <ron2> ok, neither is any other linux program i suppose.
[23:52] <LoveGuru> Hi, There is one Conf file I just want to Get All uncomment lines from that file? can i?
[23:52] <]{53> test_: you need a 3d card to run compiz. the vm cards are not 3d.
[23:52] <ron2> yeah vmware like emulates graphics, you dont get hardware acceleration as far as i can tell
[23:52] <p1mps> any1 got to work aircrack & bcm4312 chipset?
[23:52] <imachine> LjL, magic
[23:52] <ron2> dunno about other vms
[23:52] <test_> So what's the best distro to learn unix?
[23:52] <imachine> LjL, I feel like I'm on windows :-P
[23:52] <p1mps> ubuntu :P
[23:53] <snuitje> freebsd :P
[23:53] <LoveGuru> test_: Ubuntu
[23:53] <]{53> test_: Ubuntu of course.
[23:53] <toastedmilk> what's the default gconf-editor value for an ipod mount?
[23:53] <ron2> yeah, i'd say ubuntu
[23:53] <LoveGuru> guD start/practice
[23:53] <node357> my 8.10 install has been stuck on "scanning the mirror" for about 30 minutes :(
[23:53] <toastedmilk> test_, ubuntu's pretty solid for learning unix
[23:53] <imachine> LjL, I went Programs/Accessories/Passwords and encryption keys
[23:53] <snuitje> mac os x is a certified unix
[23:53] <toastedmilk> what's the default gconf-editor value for an ipod mount?
[23:53] <Brandano> test_: try asking in #gentoo ... :)
[23:53] <imachine> LjL, in there, edit/preferences
[23:53] <]{53> test_: next step is install it on a reall hd so you can force yourself to 'get used to it'.
[23:53] <mezquitale> test_ try ubuntu, its one of the best, ubuntu or SuSE, i started out with SuSE and moved to ubuntu, ubuntu is much faster and more stable
[23:53] <ron2> Not saying ubuntu because this is #ubuntu either.
[23:53] <imachine> LjL, removed the key base named 'login'
[23:54] <node357> my 8.10 install has been stuck on "scanning the mirror" for about 30 minutes :(
[23:54] <imachine> LjL, it got recreated on next login.
[23:54] <imachine> LjL, now all works fine :)
[23:54] <test_> but those come with gnome/kde, whereas most of unix stuff is done via command line/terminal
[23:54] <]{53> test_: everyone uses ubuntu. ;)
[23:54]  * Brandano bets the #gentoo people won't say gentoo
[23:54] <ron2> node357: try again?
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> test_: to learn unix, i'd say gentoo
[23:54] <imachine> LjL, I could file a bug.
[23:54] <toastedmilk> what's the default gconf-editor value for an ipod mount?
[23:54]  * ]{53 slaps ActionParsnip
[23:54] <mrwes> I remember trying to get X working in slack like 10 years ago...now that was fun!
[23:54] <LoveGuru> Hi, There is one Conf file there is alot commented/uncommented lines on it. I just want to Get All uncommented lines from that file? can i?
[23:54] <Brandano> ActionParsnip: it's also really good to learn how to properly rip your hair out, though
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> ]{53: what, its a good distro
[23:54] <ron2> I've used everything under the sun at some point practically
[23:54] <rockyrock> has anybody understood my problem???
[23:54] <test_> I tried gentoo in vm too
[23:55] <imachine> LjL, do you know tho what in the system got changed through that gui app? So that I'd know what to file a bug agains?
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> Brandano: teaches you a lot
[23:55] <ron2> even things made by sun!
[23:55] <]{53> I agree to REALLY learn you need to start with Linux From Scratch. LOL
[23:55] <Brandano> on the plus side, it's the most optimized among the "high feature" distros
[23:55] <mrwes> gotta compile a couple of kernels to really get into it
[23:55] <]{53> Or Gentoo.
[23:55] <mrwes> heh
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> ]{53: start from stage3 and you have half the battle completed
[23:55] <snuitje> http://funroll-loops.info/
[23:55] <node357> my 8.10 install has been stuck on "scanning the mirror" for about 30 minutes :(
[23:55] <imachine> to learn UNIX, I'd recommend Digital UNIX
[23:55] <ron2> I haven't used gentoo though, so I can't comment on that
[23:55] <imachine> or NetBSD.
[23:55] <imachine> w00t
[23:55] <imachine> gentoo is too new
[23:55] <imachine> ;)
[23:55] <FloodBot3> imachine: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:56] <snuitje> hehe try a unix pdp-11 :)
[23:56] <]{53> gentoo is the new slackware.
[23:56] <ron2> gentoo is just something i haven't used
[23:56] <imachine> ]{53, lol I should hang you for that
[23:56] <snuitje> some guy in australia still has one
[23:56] <test_> they say AIX is the most powerful for enterprise, ubuntu for desktop and suse for business, what do you guys think?
[23:56] <imachine> tho I admit, I went slackware -> fbsd -> gento
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> node357: i'd restart the install and unplug the network from your system
[23:56] <]{53> imachine: LOL!
[23:56] <ron2> suse is okay too actually, i guess
[23:56] <toastedmilk> I'm trying to use my ipod with songbird, and I get error message 'Cannot Mount Volume : The volume uses the / file system which is not supported by your system.'  What does this mean?
[23:56] <ron2> or used to be
[23:56] <ron2> I used that for a little while
[23:56] <node357> okay ActionParsnip thanks
[23:56] <node357> wish me luck
[23:56] <mrwes> imachine, yah I remember running Walnut Creek
[23:56] <imachine> I support ubuntu where I can.
[23:56] <Dante123> hi all, trying to run an app that I think was first developed for kde under gnome (in ubuntu) the program starts and i see a logo...but then never loads...i get the following error:  http://pastebin.ca/1268047
[23:57] <LjL> !offtopic | imachine mrwes
[23:57] <imachine> on servers, with uSERS, I recommend debian.
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> imachine: me too, im fairly regular in here :D
[23:57] <LjL> imachine: honestly no and i didn't find anything in gconf either
[23:57] <toastedmilk> I'm trying to use my ipod with songbird, and I get error message 'Cannot Mount Volume : The volume uses the / file system which is not supported by your system.'  What does this mean?
[23:57] <nickrud_> LoveGuru, grep -vP '^[ \t]*(#|$)' should do it I think
[23:57] <imachine> LjL, hey, I said I *suport* ubuntu! :-P
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> imachine: on servers I'd use smoe cli based distro
[23:57] <imachine> double p
[23:58] <imachine> ActionParsnip, on servers with Users I'd use FreeBSD or NetBSD.
[23:58] <Brandano> ubottu: !info chroot
[23:58] <imachine> :-P
[23:58] <imachine> but enough ofg that !
[23:58] <Brandano> yay!
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: is it in disk mode? does it show up in sudo fdisk -l ?
[23:58] <imachine> before they kill me for offtopic ;]
[23:58] <Dante123> hi all, trying to run an app that I think was first developed for kde under gnome (in ubuntu) the program starts and i see a logo...but then never loads...i get the following error:  http://pastebin.ca/1268047
[23:58] <Brandano> ubottu: !info dchroot
[23:58] <mrwes> !info kernel
[23:58] <Brandano> ubottu knows everything, but has no links to howto's
[23:58] <imachine> lols :)
[23:58] <mrwes> heh
[23:58] <mezquitale> if you install 8.10, can you still choose to use 8.04 kernel when you boot up??
[23:58] <imachine> intrepid don't run on kernel
[23:58] <imachine> ;]
[23:58] <test_> Do you have any suggestions for books on unix?
[23:58] <LjL> !info linux
[23:59] <LjL> !fishing
[23:59] <imachine> ok anyway
[23:59] <LoveGuru> Hi, There is one Conf file there is alot commented/uncommented lines on it. I just want to Get All uncommented lines from that file? can i?
[23:59] <imachine> I'm off to my warm home.
[23:59] <imachine> this machine works fine.
[23:59] <imachine> lates!
[23:59] <nickrud_> LoveGuru, grep -vP '^[ \t]*(#|$)' should do it I think
[23:59] <mrwes> l8r
[23:59] <imachine> and thanks for teh support.
[23:59] <gnutron> test_: Think Unix, by Jon Lasser is a good book.
[23:59] <mcphail> test_: these questions would be better asked in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:59] <snuitje> test_: can you read ebdic on paper tape?
[23:59] <Brandano> thanks LjL
[23:59] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/d2f5376af
[23:59] <LoveGuru> nickrud_ thanks let me try
[23:59] <Paddy_EIRE> imachine, that'll be $250