[00:01] uh, is there any browser that's more compatible than dillo but faster that midori? ._. [00:01] nycz: compatible to what? [00:01] TheSheep: web standards [00:01] dillo cant even show wikipedia in a nice way [00:01] nycz: dillo is very compatible to web standards [00:02] nycz: it just doesn't support css, which is perfectly valid according to the w3c [00:02] ah [00:02] well then [00:02] is there any browser that supports css but is faster than midori? [00:03] nycz, you start to be pushing your luck [00:04] knome: you gotta push until you find the borders :P [00:05] i want to try and squeeze out every drop of fast-ness of this computer [00:05] *speed o_O [00:09] nycz: well, I once wrote a browser that supports (some) css and uses gtkhtml2, which is faster than webkit (by virtue of not supporting javascript and more advanced css) [00:09] nycz: but it's not really usable [00:10] TheSheep: heh [00:10] hm [00:11] nycz: http://code.google.com/p/arora/ [00:11] nycz: that's another webkit-based browser [00:12] but shouldnt all webkitbrowsers be more or less equally fast? [00:13] there is some overhead of the gui, and some of them may seem faster by displaying the page before it's actually loaded and having more responsive interface [00:13] ok [00:20] Half the xfce packages are gnome-* [00:21] NotADJ: well, gnome has the habit of adopting good gtk-based applications [00:21] :P [00:22] NotADJ: that doesn't mean that once they are adopted in gnome, we can't use them anymore in xubuntu [00:22] any chance the xubuntu live cd has flash? [00:24] scooby2: as soon as Adobe opensources it [00:24] thats what i figured [00:25] gnash [00:26] NotADJ: I think it's installed by default, but won't run everything [00:27] Oh? [00:27] Cool [00:27] 9% [00:27] Yay [00:27] 61%* [00:30] Grub! [00:30] huh [00:30] That was 91% before. [00:30] The install is almost finishedQ [00:30] install of what? :P [00:30] Ubuntu [00:31] ah [00:35] Help [00:35] Im trying to ru my copmuter as server [00:36] and I need help setting up my ip that isint working right [00:38] It works! [00:38] Slow, but it works! [00:38] Conmiro: How do you mean? [00:41] Conmiro: your question is unclear, can you ask it differently? [00:45] ok.... [00:45] Im trying to host my xubuntu os as the host for my website [00:45] like I put files on it [00:45] make my IP public [00:45] set up domain for IP [00:45] and :D [00:46] well, you can't make your IP public, your provider must do it for you [00:47] isn't there better distros, specifically made for servers? [00:47] o/ -> [00:48] nycz: sure, hundreds [00:48] nycz: each one better than all others [00:48] :P [00:49] xubuntu just seemed like a little odd choice [00:50] nycz: it's easy to install and start learning [00:50] nycz: later you can change to something more sophisticated [00:51] i see [00:51] guess i just think of minimalistic textbased distros when i hear server [00:52] Ive done it before.... [00:52] On my own...... [00:52] Conmiro: then your ip must already be public [00:52] Yes ubuntu server doesint work for ,e. [00:52] me [00:52] Ok, but it hasint seemed to be working since I installed xubuntu.... [00:52] Conmiro: what exactly doesn't work? what do you do to test it? [00:55] I go to my IP [00:55] and it doesint load my website on XP [00:55] oh important info: I had it set up on xp [00:56] and was able to go to my ip [00:56] and it would show my website [00:56] and other people tried and it worked for them [00:56] But I wanted to configure it with Xubuntu [00:56] and now xp doesint work [00:56] only localhost and 127.0.0.1 work.... [00:56] wait, you installed xubuntu and your web site on windows xp stopped working? [00:57] yes [00:57] or did you install apache on xubuntu and it doesn't work? [00:57] I installed apache on Xubuntu [00:57] and it doesint work and now XP doesint work [00:58] mabey coincidence [00:58] Idk [00:58] side question: How do I add users? the add button seems to be grayed out in user and group manager. [00:59] Conmiro: you have to unlock it first [01:00] ok [01:00] may I ask how? [01:00] Conmiro: click on unlock and give your password [01:00] ok, apache on xubuntu by default only listens on localhost [01:00] to change it, edit /etc/apache2/ports.conf [01:00] as rood [01:00] ok [01:00] root [01:00] root? [01:00] OMG [01:01] is that why It says i dont have access to certain things? [01:01] I must be logged in as root? [01:01] no [01:01] you can use this command: gksu mousepad /etc/apache2/ports.conf [01:01] it will ask you for password and then run the editor as root [01:01] * NotADJ watches house [01:02] Conmiro: there is a detailed guide about apache, if it helps [01:02] !apache [01:02] LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+) [01:03] Conmiro: just use mousepad instead of gedit everywhere [01:03] ok [01:03] let me open terminal [01:03] Conmiro: after you have edited it, you have to reload apache: sudo /etc/init.d/apache reload [01:04] or was it apache2? :/ [01:04] yes, apache2 [01:04] ok. [01:04] so change listen 80 to list myip? [01:05] Conmiro: just add one more line [01:05] with your ip [01:05] oh [01:05] ok [01:05] or with * instead of ip [01:05] if you want it to listen on all [01:05] do I need to add listen? [01:05] yes [01:06] or just hav following: Listen 80 (anotherline) ip [01:06] Listen *:80 [01:06] somehting like that [01:07] hmm, wait [01:07] ok.. [01:07] it was Listen 80 ? [01:07] and only that? [01:07] listten 80 [01:07] not Listen 127.0.0.1:80 ? [01:07] NameVirtualHost *:80 Listen 80 [01:07] thats two lines... [01:07] argh, then it was ok [01:07] no changing needed? [01:08] it should work [01:08] yeah [01:08] ok [01:08] so now what [01:08] did you add any firewall rules? [01:08] no [01:08] but it doesint work still [01:08] * TheSheep scratches his head [01:08] 66.182.206.18 is not loading [01:08] and localhost is? [01:09] works [01:09] yes [01:09] remote desktop? [01:10] no [01:10] it wouldent help u? [01:11] hmm, when I try to connect to port 80, it's being filtered by a firewall [01:11] it is? [01:11] Ok [01:11] that seems good [01:12] that means it is public, just firewalled? [01:12] on 66.182.213.6 [01:12] yes [01:12] thats my IP? [01:12] is 66.182.213.6 your gateway? [01:12] idk [01:12] Ive got two ips [01:12] no, that's the last host that I can see with tcptraceroute [01:12] ..... [01:12] oh [01:13] well [01:13] what does it say when you type 'route' in the terminal? [01:13] my normal gateway for router [01:13] g'nite [01:13] terminal? [01:13] or firefox? [01:13] terminal [01:13] there should be a line that says 'default' [01:13] gateway= * [01:13] and an ip address [01:13] 192.168.2.0 [01:13] but u cant access that [01:13] I know [01:14] ok [01:14] so you have two internet connections there? [01:15] I guess...... [01:15] Ive got two ips [01:15] when I go to myip it tells me my ip is 66.182.206.18 [01:15] you are behind a NAT [01:16] in a private network, that only has one public ip, but many private ips [01:16] ok [01:16] so what I do [01:16] TheSheep you seem really smart... [01:16] you need to ask your admin to configure the router so that all requests to port 80 are forwarded to your computer [01:16] Im the admin [01:17] shall i configure router? [01:17] then you have to read the router's manual to see how to do it [01:17] i think I know how [01:17] im in router menu [01:17] it should be called 'port forwarding' [01:17] ok [01:17] no tabs with that name === wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla [01:18] under firewall possibly? [01:18] might be [01:19] cant find [01:19] and I have no manual [01:19] remote desktop? [01:19] lol, sorry im upsessed.... [01:20] maybe google for 'port forwarding' and your router's name... [01:20] oh theres a help documentation [01:20] il search it [01:21] oh [01:21] i need to setup as static? [01:21] one second [01:21] 9_9 [01:21] NotADJ: sleepy? [01:21] help me [01:22] where i find subnet mask [01:22] Conmiro: of which subnet? [01:22] is that 255255255255? [01:22] idk [01:22] Conmiro: internal or external? [01:22] im setting up static [01:22] idk :( [01:22] 255.255.255.0 probably [01:23] oh that seems familiar [01:23] if that's your internal network, that is 192.168.x.x [01:23] whats gateway address [01:23] same as ip? [01:23] if it's external network, then you should have received the mask from your isp, or just got it via dhcp [01:23] No [01:24] ok............. [01:24] gateway is the ip address of your ISP's computer [01:24] wow [01:24] how i find that out [01:24] without calling them [01:24] for intrnal network, just set it to whatever ip comes to your mind [01:25] 192.168.0.1 is popular [01:25] ohhhhh [01:25] do i setup virtual servers?? [01:25] http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Belkin/F5D7632-4/default.htm [01:25] scroll down [01:25] no, you are setting NAT, a translation between private and public network [01:26] ok [01:26] Conmiro: yes, that's it [01:26] wait what? [01:26] why do they have to invent their own names :/ [01:26] you are setting up a virtual server :) [01:26] so i dont need static? just click virtual servers? [01:26] ok [01:26] what type [01:27] tcp [01:27] kk [01:27] and both ports 80 [01:27] k [01:27] what description [01:27] whatever comes to your mind [01:27] oh [01:27] just don't swear too much [01:27] Dude [01:27] there is [01:27] aready one there [01:27] Web Server (http) [01:27] is it enabled? [01:27] its disabled [01:27] then enable it :) [01:28] what private ip adress? [01:28] and make sure it's for the ip that you have [01:28] ok [01:28] ifconfig will show it [01:28] at the terminal [01:28] 2.0? [01:28] ok [01:28] invalid [01:28] when i pressed submit [01:28] cant be 2.0 [01:29] 2.4? [01:29] 192.168.2.0 [01:29] cant be that [01:29] can't be, it's a broadcast address [01:29] ok [01:29] then what [01:29] unicast, sorry [01:29] anyways, can't be used :) [01:29] what then [01:29] use the address that appears next to 'inet addr:' in ifconfig [01:29] err wheres that [01:30] ifconfig? [01:30] type 'ifconfig' in terminal on your linux box [01:30] oh [01:30] i see [01:30] :D [01:30] 127.0.0.1? [01:30] wait [01:30] no [01:30] thats local [01:30] there should be several interfaces [01:30] theres another one [01:30] eth0? [01:30] yes [01:30] or eth1 [01:31] only eth1 has inet addr [01:31] 192.168.2.2!!! [01:31] applied! [01:32] I can see your web page [01:32] now, it would be wise to make sure that this computer always gets this ip address [01:33] so either configure it as 'static' on the computer, or configure your router to always give it the same address [01:33] the first is simpler to do [01:33] but less foolproof [01:34] the second requires you to set that ip for the MAC address of your computer [01:34] you can see the mac next to 'HWaddr' in ifconfig [01:38] ok [01:38] now what [01:38] it works!!! [01:38] 66.182.206.18 works!! [01:38] u try [01:38] wanna bet he'll be back in 2 days when he gets a different ip from his dhcp? [01:41] o_o [01:54] can someone help me i just installed crossover games on xubuntu intrepid and its not showing up in menu does anyone know how to make it show [01:58] bobJR: settings->menu editor [02:01] thats what i thought but the only thing its showing on menu editor is settings [02:02] and all the hiddens are unchecked [02:04] =[ im a kde person everything always shows up on the menu when i install something but it seems xfce dont [02:05] just add an entry [02:05] ok [02:05] you can create a submenu if you want that entry in a submenu [02:05] oh [02:05] the system menu witll be merged with what you create [02:05] brb [02:08] ok i see now thanks [02:19] ok another question i got it to show but weres the default applications at ? [02:19] like the ones that are on the applications menu by defaults [02:20] bobJR: they are all define in /usr/share/applications [02:20] one file per entry [02:20] ok thanks [02:20] if you want to modify them, copy corresponding file to ~/.local/share/applications and edit there [02:22] is there a command i can put to put them back in default because alot of stuff is gone lol [02:22] in terminal that is [02:23] I don't understand [02:24] like were it says network and multimedia all that is gone somehow it dont say multimedia or network theres only 2 items on the menu and they are crossover games and settings [02:25] crossover games i put there in menu editor [02:25] but the rest of the stuff that was on there is gone now [02:26] bobJR: aah, xfce4-menueditor [02:26] thanks [02:26] and add that include at the end [02:27] Where can I find the NDiswrapper .deb? [02:27] NotADJ: packages.ubuntu.com [02:28] Hmm [02:28] No good. [02:28] bobJR: you can also delete ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml and relog, then you will get the default [02:29] TheSheep: Doesn't seem as if it has the kernel module is there too. [02:29] thank you TheSheep [02:29] you have been alot of help [02:31] !ndiswrapper [02:31] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [02:32] NotADJ: I suppose it's in -restricted modules [02:47] TheSheep: I downloaded # [02:47] http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/misc/ndiswrapper-common [02:47] # [02:47] http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/misc/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 [02:47] But there are no kernel modules [02:48] How do I update my graphics driver? [02:48] iShock: Umm... Sypnbatic? [02:48] Sypnatic? [02:48] TDJACR! [02:49] iShock: Um, hi? [02:50] * iShock aka: Lee [02:50] iShock: Oh! [02:50] :P [02:50] Exactly what in Synaptic am I looking for? :< [02:50] iShock: Is it a proprietary driver? [02:50] Not sure [02:51] Define proprietary :< [02:51] Well if it is go to hardware drivers if not, IDK [02:51] :P [02:51] IDK what proprietary is :< [02:52] Closed-Source? [02:52] Oh, it's Intel :P [02:53] :/ [02:53] idk [02:53] Useless creature :< [02:53] What'd you do to get banned from Cluenet? [02:54] iShock: Lamia hates me, I don't know why/ [02:54] Whatever [02:54] I thought she hated me [02:54] Guess I was wrong :o [03:06] I am doing a fresh install what type of partions should I setup [03:17] NotADJ: [03:20] Hello People. [03:21] so what is the googleearth-package doing? [03:21] there's google earth for ubuntu? [05:17] hello! [05:18] After initial start up, I am asked to unlock the default keyring to allow nm-applet to connect. How can this be automated on bootup? [05:20] hello again! [05:20] After initial start up, I am asked to unlock the default keyring to allow nm-applet to connect. How can this be automated on bootup? [05:27] Hello People. [05:28] clear [05:42] clear [05:42] How do I automate the keyring unlocking at startup? [07:34] Could someone tell me how to move a file as root ? I know it's a stupid question, but I am new to this. [07:35] I want to move an xorg.conf file to /etc/X11/ [07:36] anubis: mv xorg.conf /etc/X11 [07:38] The file I want to move is on the desktop and I want to move it to /etc/X11 [07:39] oh. mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf.old && mv ~anubis/old/Desktop/xorg.conf /etc/X11 [07:39]