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KrispyKreme_ActionParsnip: one more question. I already have support for atheros 802.11 wireless lan cards disabled. I should keep it that way right?00:00
tkstkaAdapt installer00:00
ActionParsnipnoaXess: any kde apps will be ripped out. its all the same, ktorrent (for example) is still called ktorrent in kde3 as well as kde4 , its all the same name so it applies to all kde's00:01
ActionParsnipKrispyKreme_: sure00:01
noaXessActionParsnip: ok..00:01
BluesKajtk00:01
BluesKajops00:02
noaXessActionParsnip: and if kde3 apps are ported to kde4 they get the same name and will be upgraded..00:02
ActionParsnipnoaXess: yep00:02
jontecmy monitor is being detected with a maximum resolution of 800x600 how can I increase the maximum? I've used xrandr, but I get an error "xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed" after adding the mode00:02
BluesKajtkstka, are you on 8.10 ?00:03
tkstka7.0400:03
szrhawaiianyone know how to use the advanced settings for kdesktop00:03
BluesKajtkstka, aha , ok that's duifferent00:03
tkstkaonly linux cd I had besided ubuntu.. but it didnt work for somereason00:03
noaXessActionParsnip: the good thing is, if now will a package removed that is used bye any app, i can reinstall it..00:04
tkstkaso how do I update this thing to 8.100:04
tkstkawhat do I need to know?00:04
jabrroaif i have installed kubuntu and    installed codecs and programs i want can i take the HDD files and burn an iso?00:04
tkstkais there new important updates I need to do?00:05
BluesKaj!upgrade 7.0400:05
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about upgrade 7.0400:05
ActionParsnipnoaXess: absolutely, just apt-get install it as normal00:06
jabrroaif i have installed kubuntu and    installed codecs and programs i want can i take the HDD files and burn an iso?00:06
ActionParsniptkstka: did you md5 the cd?00:06
noaXessActionParsnip: ;).. restarting.. an check if all is running ;)00:06
ActionParsnip!upgrade00:06
BluesKajtkstka, the best thing is to DL the 8.10 live cd and install from there . Back up your fav data first of course.00:06
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes00:06
tkstkash*t damn I wouldnt like to do that.. Isnt there a way to for me to download some upgrade back.. I dont have cd's or rw00:08
jabrroaif i have installed kubuntu and    installed codecs and programs i want can i take the HDD files and burn an iso?00:08
tkstkaBluesKaj I was reading this00:08
tkstkahttp://english.kalingasblog.com/2008/04/26/how-to-upgrade-kubuntu-710-to-kubuntu-804/00:08
szrhawaiidoes anyone know how to fill this out properly http://s27.photobucket.com/albums/c198/szrhawaii/?action=view&current=snapshot1-1.png00:08
tkstkabut I dont have the same menu in adp00:09
KrispyKremeActionParsnip: It didn't work00:09
ActionParsnipKrispyKreme: ndiswrapper for you00:10
tkstkaso is there a way to update this to 7.09 to 7.1000:10
tkstkaso I can update it to 8.**00:10
ActionParsnip!upgrade | tkstka00:10
ubottutkstka: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes00:10
KrispyKremeohhh. Now I have to get ndiswrapper right?00:10
tkstkais kubuntu basicly same as ubuntu00:10
armitagehey guys00:11
armitagei'00:11
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_gtt_i need some help00:11
tkstkaarmita was a good movie00:11
jontechow can I configure the screen resolution outside of KDE System Settings00:11
tkstkaI loved them00:11
tkstkaarmitage was a good movie00:12
tkstka:)00:12
_gtt_every time launch konqueror (kde4) hardy heron, i get a SIGSVdsfsfdasdf00:12
JontheEchidnajontec: krandrtray?00:12
_gtt_:(00:12
ActionParsnipKrispyKreme: yep, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper00:12
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ActionParsnipKrispyKreme: you need the win xp32 or win xp64 driver for the device00:13
aandersehey if anyone here presses ctrl+shift+w in konsole, does it make your kopete go to "away" status instead of closing you konsole tab?00:13
aanderseand when i say konsole, i think i mean any app which has tabs00:13
jontecJontheEchidna: okay, I'm assuming that this has something to do with xrandr and I've tried that... I get a xrandr: "Configure crtc 0 failed" when attempting to change my resolution from 800x600 (autodetect max) to the actual maxiumum, 1024x768 (I have already added the mode)00:14
_gtt_aanderse: dont hold down shift.00:14
aandersectrl+w does nothing00:14
aanderse(they shortcut says ctrl+shift+w)00:15
_gtt_oh yeah00:15
jontecJontheEchidna: I can select it from within the tray app, but it does nothing, so I'm assuming it's the same problem00:15
_gtt_doh, my bad00:15
ActionParsnipaanderse: i use yakuake instead00:15
JontheEchidnajontec: yeah, they both use xrandr00:15
aandersethe same behaviour occurs in dolphin00:15
ActionParsnipaanderse: you may be able to change the shortcut in keyboard settings00:15
aandersewell, i'm mostly asking if someone can replicate this00:15
aanderseif so, it's a bug00:16
jontecJontheEchidna: and since xorg.conf is no longer operable, are there any alternatives?00:16
_gtt_it closes my tabs properly00:16
aandersek, so it's possible this is a me bug :p00:16
aandersethanks00:16
JontheEchidnafile a bug about X not autodetecting your monitor's max res properly I guess00:16
JontheEchidnathat's what I did00:16
ActionParsnipaanderse: I wouldnt say it was, its a mixed settings in keyboard shortcuts probably00:16
jontecJontheEchidna: what # was your bug?00:16
jontecor, rather, do you have a link?00:16
JontheEchidnajontec: unless you have a Compaq 7500 monitor and nvidia geforce 4 mx 440 I think you'd better file a separate bug00:17
xp-killerim looking for a video converter for kubuntu00:17
ActionParsnipxp-killer: ffmpeg and mencoder are your friends00:17
* JontheEchidna had an old xorg.conf lying around which he is using atm00:17
jontecJontheEchidna: I was just curious about the solution00:18
xp-killerActionParsnip: lol tanks00:18
JontheEchidnajontec: it hasn't been fixed yet; I'm using an old xorg.conf file that has the resolutions defined00:18
SchuenemannHey, what kubuntu version should I choose for a core 2 duo? I selected 64bit AMD and Intel computers, but the ISO name is kubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso. Is this correct?00:18
tkstkaSo there is no way to update this 7.04 to any newer version... All the instructions I find talk about buttons to press in adept manager but there are no buttons there00:19
tkstkawith those names00:20
tkstkajust huge sums of different programs I can install00:20
xp-killertkstka: clic on fetch updates then clic on full upgrade00:24
tkstkaxp-killer there is no option like that in 7.04 as far as I can see00:24
tkstkaI hear everywhere I find that I need to get some new cd.. or something00:25
tkstkaI dont have cd or rw to burn new cd's00:25
xp-killerthen update it online from adept00:25
tkstkawell I said it dont have options like that.. It has a huge list of programs I can update but no full system update00:27
tkstka...00:27
xp-killertkstka: on top u dont see fetch updates?00:27
tkstkano00:28
tkstkaI've lookd everywhere00:28
tkstkaI can take a screenshot if you like00:28
szrhawaii_#compiz-fusion00:29
tkstkais there anyway to update by using commands?00:29
szrhawaii_anyone know how to turn of the drawing for kdesktop00:31
ActionParsniptkstka: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core00:32
ActionParsniptkstka: kdesudo kate /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades00:32
ActionParsniptkstka: change Prompt=LTS to Prompt=normal00:32
ActionParsniptkstka: save and exit00:32
ActionParsniptkstka: sudo do-release-upgrade00:33
ActionParsniptkstka: go watch tv or have a shower00:33
szrhawaii_anyone know how to make ccsm the main drawer for my background and be able to turn of the kdesktop00:35
tkstkaActionParsnip thx.. but that kdesudo seems to be wrong it doesnt work00:36
ActionParsniptkstka: sudo nano  /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades00:37
ActionParsniptkstka: edit the line, press ctrl+x, then y, then enter00:37
ActionParsniptkstka: you need to edit  /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades as sudo00:38
casefinanzaitciao00:39
xp-killeri need a p2p for kubunyu,somethin like limewire ,ares or edonkey00:39
LjjjL!it | casefinanzait00:39
ubottucasefinanzait: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)00:39
xp-killerkubuntu*00:39
ActionParsnip!gnutella | xp-killer00:40
ubottuxp-killer: Gnutella clients: GTK-Gnutella (GTK, stand-alone), gifTui, giFToxic (GTK, based on giFT), Apollon (KDE, based on giFT), mldonkey-gui (GTK, based on MLDonkey), KMLDonkey (KDE, based on MLDonkey), !Limewire, !Frostwire (Java, not in the !repositories) - See also !P2P00:40
LjjjL!p2p | xp-killer00:40
ubottuxp-killer: Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information00:40
casefinanzaitok thanks00:40
tkstkaso nothing happend00:48
tkstkaActionParsnip I did like you said I opened it with nano and there and typed change Prompt=LTS to Prompt=normal and saved and nothing happend00:49
tkstkaadpt didnt open first00:49
tkstkabut after I tried second time it did and it was all back to like it was before00:49
ActionParsniptkstka: you need to run the next command if you are now back to the prompt00:50
ActionParsniptkstka: sudo do-release-upgrade00:50
tkstkaActionParsnip thanks verymuch and all who helped me :)00:56
ActionParsniptkstka: is it doing its thing now?00:57
tkstkaActionParsnip yes00:58
tkstkadownloading 35 min00:58
ActionParsniptkstka: uber, you will want to keep the current conf files as it will offer stock blank ones when the upgrade is nearly done00:58
tkstkaok I will keep that in mind00:59
ActionParsniptkstka: its stuff like smb.conf which you will want to keep yuor own (for example)01:00
xp-killeri need a video streamer downloader01:01
ActionParsnipxp-killer: is it flash or is it an avi / mpeg?01:03
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xp-killerActionParsnip: flash like youtube videos01:13
ActionParsnipxp-killer: theres a plugin for firefox to help yuo download flash videos01:14
xp-killerActionParsnip: u know how i can install it?01:23
ActionParsnipxp-killer: http://javimoya.com/blog/youtube_en.php01:25
dr_willisTheres lots of  download helper extensions :)01:30
mrksbrddr_willis: u here01:50
dr_willisYep.. In and out all night01:52
dr_willis:) watching the grandkids01:52
mrksbrdlol....good luck01:52
mrksbrdjust a quick ?01:52
mrksbrdi know this isn't the right channel but here it is, ........trying to install the latest gimp version thru deb files01:53
mrksbrd& keep getting dependency errors01:53
mrksbrdI try to install what it says it is missing but still no luck01:53
mrksbrdany ideas01:53
dr_willisWhere are the packages comming from?01:55
mrksbrdhttp://www.getdeb.net/01:55
mrksbrddownloaded 3 files.....1 works01:56
mrksbrdother 2 giving me the errors01:56
arrrghhhanyone running projectM in kubuntu?01:58
mrksbrdarrrghhh: not I....... sorry01:59
arrrghhhi found instructions to use projectM with pulseaudio... but kde doesn't use pulse i would assume.01:59
mrksbrdsays pulse will run on linux02:02
arrrghhh...02:02
mrksbrdhttp://www.pulseaudio.org/02:02
mrksbrdjust have to compile it02:03
astromme_woah, no. You can still install pulse in kubuntu02:03
astromme_sudo apt-get install pulseaudio02:03
astromme_In 8.10 I have a choice of a gstreamer or xine backend for kde02:04
emmaI don't suggest you do, however, it gives people a lot of headaches.02:04
mrksbrdnever used it so I don't know how it will act02:04
astromme_So if projectM will work with either of those, I would suggest trying that first02:04
mrksbrddr_willis: any luck yet?02:05
arrrghhhprojectM has a QT implementation i think02:06
arrrghhhi just haven't found anything online on how to use it!02:06
arrrghhhthere's a thread for using it with pulse and hardy02:06
mrksbrddid anyone ever figure out how to remove kde 4 apps listings in kmenu when running under 3.502:09
geniiProbably similar02:09
mrksbrdhey genii.....long time no see02:09
geniimrksbrd: I would think to have a ~/.kde3 and a ~/.kde402:09
* genii hands mrksbrd a coffee02:09
mrksbrdme welcomes it with open arms02:10
* mrksbrd welcomes it with open arms02:10
arrrghhhlibvisual-projectm - anyone know about this package?  it's in the repo's.02:10
genii!info libvisual-projectm02:11
ubottulibvisual-projectm (source: libvisual-projectm): libvisual module for projectM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-1+nmu1 (intrepid), package size 18 kB, installed size 88 kB02:11
geniiHmm, could ubottu be more vague? ;)02:11
arrrghhhlol he could tell us something that's not even related to the package i guess.02:11
arrrghhhhave you heard of milkdrop?02:11
dr_willis  !find milkdrop02:12
dr_willisGrandkids drops lots of milk02:12
arrrghhhi have been missing hardly anything from winblows.  the only thing i really have been missing is a good visualzation... and projectM is "compatible with milkdrop's presets"02:12
mrksbrdgenii: any ideas why gimp deb files are giving me dependency errors?.......libgimp2.0 gives me errors that libgtk2.0-0 doesn't meet requirements, but that is latest I can find02:13
arrrghhhmilkdrop is hands down (imho obviously) the best for visualizations.02:13
mrksbrdlol @ dr.....oooooopppppssssssssss02:13
geniifrom http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/sound/libvisual-projectm       :projectM is an iterative music visualization library which uses OpenGL for hardware acceleration. It is compatible with Milkdrop presets. This package contains a module for libvisual enabling support for projectM.02:13
geniiAlthough what libvisual is, no idea02:13
arrrghhhi'd love to get this working with songbird02:14
Daisuke_Idogenii: amarok uses libvisual for its visualizations02:14
arrrghhhthe new rc3 is pretty solid, now just needs some good addons... ie visualizations02:14
geniiDaisuke_Ido: Ah, nice02:14
arrrghhhDaisuke_Ido, do you know anything about the qt implementation of projectM?02:14
oscc2007hia all, i need help on kubuntu software02:14
mrksbrdask away02:15
oscc2007r d developers around?02:15
Daisuke_Idoarrrghhh: no idea, but with libvisual-projectm installed, you should be able to use it with amarok no problem02:15
oscc2007the openoffice version on 8.10, is it from Sun or the one from Go-oo?02:15
arrrghhhoscc2007, sun has a hand in ooo...02:16
arrrghhhDaisuke_Ido, hrm... ok.  i was hopin to get it working with songbird, but i'm sure most people won't be interested in that project until it's 1.0 at least.02:16
jontecI am trying to figure out the problem with xrandr on 8.10... using the command "xrandr --output default --mode "1024x768_60.00"" I am returned "xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed"02:17
mrksbrdjontec: what card do u have?02:17
jonteckrandrtray keeps talking about crtc 113 on the command line, so I don't know which crtc is correct... it cannot find the monitor with --crtc 113, and my screen flickers with 11302:18
astromme_arrghhh: you probably can't use it with amarok2 though. only 1.402:18
oscc2007jontec: when you typr xrandr, do you see the currently used settings?02:18
jontecoscc2007: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade XPAi1 (rev 82) ?02:18
jontecoscc2007: yes02:18
jontecoscc2007: the output is default (this is a fresh install of 8.10, unfortunately)02:19
jontec"default", rather02:19
oscc2007arrrghhh: yes, but i am trying to track down if kubuntu is using the go-oo02:19
oscc2007jontec: type xrandr, the default should show something like02:19
oscc20071024x768       60.0*+   50.002:20
geniiI think the xrandr problem might be this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=614004902:20
jontecoscc2007: it does, but it has 800x600 selected, I had to manually add the 1024x768 mode and this is the mode I'm trying to get working02:21
jontecoscc2007: 800x600 leaves a huge border between the screen and the actual viewable area of the monitor02:22
juanantonio_I only get 800*600 in K 8.0402:22
oscc2007ohh...thats normal...we use that to put other progs out of the view area.02:23
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oscc2007so other screen can only see the viewable area.02:23
mrksbrdjuanantonio: have u run any updates yet?02:24
Guest17178test02:24
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genii!test | maxim_02:25
ubottumaxim_: sigh... again? I'm busy here, I already told you it failed.02:25
pm2Hello - I just install intrepid, and have KDE4 installed.  I'm noticing that every few seconds, it seems like a couple windows or something flash on the screen just for an instant.  Is there anyway to make that stop?02:25
juanantonio_Yes, I have tried everything to solve this, but no way02:25
oscc2007 can u see the 1024 resolution? even if it flickers02:26
jontecoscc2007: there is no "other" screen? This is a tablet PC (if that matters), and the monitor I'm referring to is the one physcially attached02:26
pm2or, failing that, just get back to kde302:26
pm2?02:26
oscc2007ic...02:26
jontecgenii, oscc2007: the solution of that article is to install nvidia drivers?02:27
mrksbrdjuanantonio: kmenu......system.....device manager......is your card listed & checked?02:27
geniijontec: If the issue is related to the nvidia driver in question02:27
geniijontec: There is also a launchpad bug report regarding radeon HD driver to same effect02:28
juanantonio_mrk, no problem, I have tried a lot of things and I am really discouraged about this problem having a real solution. My card i an on-board GeForce 710002:28
jontecgenii: I don't believe that this computer has an nvidia card02:28
mrksbrdpm2: 8.10 still has a few video bugs, you may be expieriencing one of them with your video card02:28
dr_willisYep - i agree mrksbrd02:29
dr_willisI belive the 7100 has had issues for a while now..02:29
jontecgenii: the thing is... all of the shells use to full area of the monitor, it's just X/KDE that doesn't02:29
pm2So it would be best to revert to KDE 3... is it easy to do that?02:29
jontecthe*02:29
dr_williskde3 unofficial repos for 8.10 are in the works i hear..02:30
pm2great... release buggy software, and don't make it reasonably easy to install non-buggy software02:32
juanantonio_What did you say about 7100 issues? Problems soultions?02:32
dr_willisTheres a few specific # nvidia cards that i recall seeing people   in here with problems.. 6500 and 7xxx spring to mind. I would check the forums for your exact card.02:33
geniijontec: I'm pretty sure the "x" part of xrandr means Xorg ;)02:33
dr_willisIts possible you need to use some specific version of the nvidia drivers02:33
mrksbrdpm2: have you tried installing the driver via "envy"02:33
dr_willis!envyng02:33
ubottuenvyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository (envyng-gtk OR envyng-qt) we suggest you use envyng if every other (official/supported) method fails! it can have various results from works, to fails!!!  if you want the very latest drivers from the manufacturer you use them at your own risk02:33
juanantonio_I will see about it, because it is some day ago that I cannot get solutions02:34
AshexI just wanted to announce that Noaton is the most useless player ever02:35
Ashexnoatun*02:35
AshexHas yet to play a video successfully for me02:35
mrksbrdvlc player02:36
tboxmyvlc02:36
dr_willis!info noatun02:36
ubottuPackage noatun does not exist in intrepid02:36
mrksbrdjuanantonio: try this....... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49500802:37
genii!info noatun hardy02:37
ubottunoatun (source: kdemultimedia): media player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.10-0ubuntu1~hardy1 (hardy), package size 2575 kB, installed size 6576 kB02:37
mrksbrdgenii: coffee is not working dude....lol02:38
tboxmyi havent met ubuntu ppl who actually depend on noatun02:38
tboxmyits always been vlc02:38
binMonkeyagggkkkk!  can anyone help me with port forwarding and vuze?  vuze says i'm behing a firewall when i've opend ports in ufw, forwarded ports on my dsl modem and my router.02:38
dr_willisvlc or mplayer here for my needs02:38
dr_williseven under windows..02:39
mrksbrdhere here.....except for the windows part....lol02:39
mrksbrdhow dare u02:39
geniibinMonkey: You need to find someone who knows about ufw02:40
dr_willisor perhaps vuze wants some specific ports you missed02:40
juanantonio_Thanks, mrk, I will try tomorrow and tell you, in Spain it's almost 4...really late!!02:40
mrksbrdnp02:41
Ashexonly reason i gripe about noatun is because it decided that it would be the default player for all my media02:41
geniibinMonkey: There seems a comprehensive tutorial on ufw here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Uncomplicated_Firewall_ufw02:41
tboxmyAshex: they need to review that decision02:41
tboxmywow, my parents will be there in spain this dec02:42
Ashextboxmy, just a tad02:42
mrksbrdbinmonkey: what router & dsl modem u using?02:42
binMonkeygenii: thanks.  i know ufw is ok.  i've spent about 2 hours going over that tutorial.  the problem is in my modem or router, i think.02:42
binMonkeymrksbrd: the router is a linksys wrt54gl and and actiontec modem.02:43
mrksbrdwhat isp?02:43
mrksbrdnm i see it02:44
binMonkeyqwest.  before i put in the router it worked like a charm.02:44
geniibinMonkey: The Vuze help page says that it is just a new version of Azureus, which is a bittorrent protocol. So you need to forward the torrent port ranges02:44
dr_willissee if you can set up a DMZ on the router.. so everything from that machine gets forwarded. as a test.. perhaps./02:44
geniibinMonkey: Which port ranges have you forwarded?02:44
KrispyKreme_http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-5007eg-with-madwifi-on-i386-platform-2.html. this only provides a README in the folder. where is the most current one?02:44
mrksbrdyou were sucessful in getting into the router config screen right?02:44
binMonkeydr_willis: i've seen the dmz setting.  but i really don't know what it is.  i'll try it.02:45
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binMonkeygenii: i forwarded 10001 - 10015.02:45
mrksbrddmz will open all ports02:45
mrksbrdincoming & outgoing....it's like not having any firewall02:45
binMonkeymrksbrd: yikes.  i'll try it, just to see.02:45
mrksbrdtemp use iss ok but wouldn't suggest leaving it like that02:46
binMonkeyhold on, guys.  and thanks for the help.02:46
KrispyKreme_http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-5007eg-with-madwifi-on-i386-platform-2.html. this only provides a README in the folder. where is the most current one?02:46
setuid_w00tI'm having problems gettting my microphone to work under Kubuntu.  I have my headset plugged into the front of my computer.  I can hear audio, but I can't seem to record anything.  The microphone works correctly under Windows.02:46
geniibinMonkey: Bittorrent clients normally want instead 6881-688902:46
binMonkeygenii: i tried those when i first started torrents but they didn't work.  i don't know where i got that 10... range, but it worked.02:47
dr_willissome specific clients may want those for somthing.. but that  range does not sound familer to me...02:48
mrksbrdbinMonkey: vuse uses 30394....tcp & udp.....need to set each one in router02:48
courtjestergok i found it add the .pvl extensions that usually would open in windows and run from your browser. I downloaded wine and downloaded winetricks some i didn't install any downloaded the firefox in winetricks thinking i should them be able to play this game it ask me the same question where to run aand save even if i open it with the browser it just loops back to the save file link02:48
courtjestergi looked this up02:49
courtjesterghttp://www.sharpened.net/helpcenter/file_extension.php?pvl02:49
* dr_willis has no idea what a .plv even is02:49
courtjestergi guess i need this Windows:HPI Instalit02:49
courtjestergusually it opens or runs when click it on it02:50
geniibinMonkey: Your router probably uses NAT02:50
binMonkeymrksbrd: where did you find that?  i thought i'd been all over the vuze help pages.02:50
mrksbrdunder tools.....options02:50
courtjesterg.pvl02:50
mrksbrdu can change the port to what ever u need/would like02:50
binMonkeymrksbrd: :(  i'm an idiot.02:51
mrksbrdsimple error.....no ? is ever to silly02:51
juanantonio_Mrk, in this page says Ubuntu, do you think it is the same with Kubuntu?02:52
mrksbrdjust glad I can help....hehehe02:52
mrksbrdkubuntu is ubuntu02:52
mrksbrdubuntu is base system with KDE installed02:52
juanantonio_Ok, I know it...but I mean, are you sure it will work?02:53
mrksbrdyup02:53
juanantonio_Ok, I am tempted to try02:53
mrksbrdwhat do u have to loose....still having a shi**y resolution02:55
mrksbrdhehehe02:55
mrksbrdjuanantonio....you could also try installing it via "envy"02:56
binMonkeywhen i set port forwarding on the dsl modem should i set the ip address as the address from the router, 192.168.1.102, or the add from the modem, 192.168.0.3?02:57
mrksbrdrouter should set ip it needs to contact router by itself via dhcp....don't mess with that02:58
mrksbrdwe won't see u here anymore02:58
mrksbrdeverything will be done thru port forwarding02:58
mrksbrddon't adjust any other settings02:58
binMonkeymrksbrd: no i mean the add of the machine that i'm forwarding to.02:59
binMonkeymrksbrd: should that be the original 192.168.0.3 or the new 192.168.1.102?02:59
zer0ohi guys, does anyone use skype? while searching for ppl how do i avoid to get all this "sex-seller-contacts" ? is there a way?02:59
mrksbrdummmm03:00
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mrksbrdi believe the 102 address name server should take care of the rest03:01
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binMonkeyok.  i'm going to save and restart.  wish me luck.03:01
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juanantonio_I can't believe it, I type what appears in the link you gave me or I try to install through Adept and gives me "Broken packages"03:03
mrksbrdlol....dreaded broken packages error03:03
mrksbrdrun sudo apt-get update thru terminal03:04
juanantonio_What is that?03:04
juanantonio_Ok03:04
juanantonio_Console or run from KMenu?03:04
mrksbrdkonsole03:05
juanantonio_Ok03:05
mrksbrdclose adept first though03:05
juanantonio_I closed it, but I didn't know, hehehe03:06
juanantonio_It stopped in 23%03:07
juanantonio_No, sorr, just finished03:07
loganWHDanyone find a solution to the mic issues with 8.1003:08
juanantonio_Should I make another try?03:08
mrksbrddown by the time ....did a red triangle show up?03:08
loganWHDmrksbrd:  you asking me?03:09
juanantonio_No, it did not03:09
mrksbrdno juan....sorry03:09
BluesKajjuanantonio_, sometimes using the ''broken packages" option in Synaptic can repair the the broken dependencies03:10
BluesKajerr "fix broken packages"03:11
ellipsis_is there any way to align my widgets?03:11
juanantonio_Synaptic? What is that? I don't think I have this03:11
loganWHDanyone have thoughts with the sound thing?03:12
BluesKajSynaptic is a package manager like Adept , except it's more thorough , ...it's a gnome package manager but works well in kde too03:13
mrksbrdjuan get synaptic thru add/remove progs03:13
juanantonio_Ok03:13
BluesKajjuanantonio_, you can find the fix broken packages option in the 'edit ' option03:14
ellipsis_is there any way to align my widgets to a grid?03:14
mrksbrdBluesKaj: could u take over from here with him....he's trying to get his gforce 7100 card working, but now getting these other errors03:15
juanantonio_Blueskaj: In Synaptic?03:15
BluesKajjuanantonio_, yes , in synaptic03:15
juanantonio_It's still waiting for the headers03:16
BluesKajmrksbrd, I'll try ...gforce 700, that's nvidia , right ?03:16
mrksbrdyes03:16
BluesKajerr 710003:16
BluesKajok03:16
dreamhackeri am new to this ubuntu thing03:17
juanantonio_Yes, Nvidia GeForce 7100 on-board VGA, chipset 630i with Q660003:17
dreamhackeri need help in forcing an ntfs drive03:17
mrksbrdwas going to try envy with him03:17
BluesKaj!envy | juanantonio_03:17
ubottujuanantonio_: envyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository (envyng-gtk OR envyng-qt) we suggest you use envyng if every other (official/supported) method fails! it can have various results from works, to fails!!!  if you want the very latest drivers from the manufacturer you use them at your own risk03:17
juanantonio_I can't believe it, man03:17
mrksbrdi have to get up early tomorrow so I'm going to bed ......g-night all03:18
BluesKajnite mrksbrd03:18
juanantonio_Adept returned me an error of debugging03:18
BluesKajjuanantonio_, after trying to install synaptic ?03:19
juanantonio_One second03:20
juanantonio_Ok. I am in Synaptic03:21
juanantonio_What must I do? Search for EnvyNGQT and Fix broken packages?03:21
BluesKajjuanantonio_, click on edit03:21
BluesKajthen if the apply button is highlighted , click on it03:22
binMonkeyding dang.  dmz didn't work.  none of the port forwards work.  when i put in the router should i have changed any settings in the modem?03:23
BluesKajjuanantonio_, don't try envy quite yet , trying to use it may make things worse if you have dependency problems03:24
juanantonio_Ok, I am refreshing packages and then I try to Edit Envy and Apply03:26
loganWHDanyone find a solution to the mic issues with 8.1003:26
juanantonio_No, when I mark Edit, Apply is not highlighted03:27
BluesKajok03:27
juanantonio_Blue, what should I try?03:33
BluesKajjuanantonio_, search synaptic for nvidia and look for the driver that fits your card.03:34
tboxmymy laptop mic works fine.03:35
tboxmythough volume was mute initally.03:35
setuid_w00tloganWHD: which issues are you talking about?03:35
juanantonio_I have seen in Synaptic that Envy NG QT need KDE 403:35
loganWHDi can't get the mic to work at all in skype lets say03:35
jussi01loganWHD: you have selected the corredt mic in skypes options?03:36
dr_willis!skype03:37
ubottuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto03:37
dr_willisskype is rather odd.. in many ways.. :) i recall..03:37
loganWHDahhh03:37
loganWHDok03:37
juanantonio_Blue, so I search Nvidia in Synaptic?03:38
BluesKajjuanantonio_, which kubuntu version are you using03:38
loganWHDthanks03:39
jussi01loganWHD: is it working now?03:39
loganWHDwell i have to go try it03:39
loganWHDhehe03:39
juanantonio_Blue, 8.04 64 bits03:39
loganWHDbrb03:39
loganWHDE: Couldn't find package vsound03:42
loganWHDso the first line03:42
BluesKaj8.04 shouldn't present any probs for your graphics card , juanantonio_...just search the properties on the nvidia drivers listed and find the one that fits03:42
loganWHDnada03:42
BluesKajlisted in synaptic, that is03:42
dr_willis32bit may  have more compatability.. i never used 8.04 64bit.. so cant confirm if  its better/worse then 32bit03:44
juanantonio_But seemingly it is no problem, man. I have installed 1 week ago03:44
juanantonio_'nvidia-glx-new'03:44
loganWHDhrmmm03:44
ga11iusanyone know how to disable the touchpad on my laptop? (im using 8.04 and KDE3)03:45
loganWHDnah that is for an older version of kubuntu03:47
loganWHDlots not working03:47
juanantonio_Binary drivers and not development files, is that right?03:48
loganWHDsound worked in previous editions... i guess using a softphone in 8.10 isnt an option03:49
binMonkeygenii, dr willis, i got it working.  thanks for the help.03:50
dr_willisYea!03:54
BluesKajjuanantonio_, install the nvidia-glx-177 , it supports the GeForce 7100 GS03:55
dr_williserr.. got what working? :)03:55
juanantonio_Uhu. From Synaptic?03:55
loganWHDanyone have a tut to get mics working in 8.10?03:56
binMonkeydr_willis: my vuze and the port forwarding.03:56
dr_willisbinMonkey,  :)03:56
dr_willisOh that.. heh03:57
binMonkeynow.  i have to go back and close up everything that i opened.  0_003:57
loganWHDthat first line of code... has a few errors for 8.1003:57
loganWHDlike vox, sound, etc cant be found03:58
juanantonio_Blues, 177.82 from Nvidia?04:03
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juanantonio_I return tomorrow. Good night04:06
loganWHDshhez that was for how to record with skype04:07
teh_leetzorhow come my desktop cube wont work04:07
loganWHDnot get the mic working for normal conversations04:07
dr_willis!skype04:07
ubottuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto04:07
loganWHDi dont want to know how to record on skype04:07
loganWHDand i ave skype installed04:07
loganWHDthe mic doesnt work for normal convo's04:08
dr_willisthat first url may have troubleshooting tips/guides/links...04:08
setuid_w00tloganWHD: do you have capture enabled?04:08
setuid_w00tin the alsa device04:09
loganWHDhrm i am not sure setuid_w00t04:10
loganWHDtell me how to check please and i will04:10
setuid_w00tloganWHD: open a termina, run alsamixer, press F4 to select capture devices04:11
loganWHDALSA lib pulse.c:272:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection refused04:12
loganWHDalsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: Connection refused04:12
setuid_w00thmm04:12
loganWHDsi hmmm04:12
setuid_w00tI'm no expert, but I was solving my own microphone issues a few minutes ago.  I think you must have a different problem though04:13
loganWHDwell maybe another day i can beg for help to fix this04:13
setuid_w00tcat /proc/asound/devices04:13
setuid_w00tDoes that show some audio devices?04:14
loganWHD3 digital audio04:14
loganWHD2 playback04:14
loganWHD1 capture04:14
loganWHDcapture is set to 0- 004:14
setuid_w00tI have something similar  :-/04:15
loganWHDwell too tired tonight04:16
loganWHDso we will come back another day04:16
loganWHDthanks04:16
loganWHDfor trying04:17
setuid_w00tgood luck04:17
loganWHD8.10 has been a few headaches away from going back to an earlier version04:17
tboxmyafter changing my kmix...now no more sound04:24
tboxmyno more recording04:25
tboxmydie....going to reboot04:25
tboxmyseems that things just gotten bad on this laptop04:25
tboxmypray reboot helps.04:25
geniiHm04:26
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GillesMMhello how can I have xine with jackd support in kubuntu ?04:44
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MakuseruHow can i manually resize a programs window? When ever i run Ardour it is always to long to fit on the screen, but i can not grab the edge of it and compress it like i normally could with a program. Is there anything i can do to resize this?05:01
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Ashexwhen is KDE 4.2 going to be pushed into the repos?05:09
mr---t-!release05:12
ubottuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases05:12
jabrroaanyone here have solaris??05:15
GillesMMhow can I have the jack support on xine ? I need to recompile xine ?05:25
Ch1ppyDoes anyone know when we can expect to see kde 4.2 beta 1 packages?05:27
MakuseruWhen ever I open Ardour, the window is longer than my screen is, and when i grab the edge to resize it I can make it longer, but not shorter. Is there any way to force this to resize to a smaller width?05:40
n3glvhello, quick question05:43
n3glvI am trying 9.04alpha, and I can't remember how to enable commercial usa dvd movies05:44
n3glvplayback05:44
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geniiUsually libcss2 from medibuntu05:44
geniiAlthough I do not know if they will have yet a Jaunty repository05:45
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TeslaTonyI'm going to say it's the exact same process for 8.04 and 8.10, but change everything from hardy or gutsy over to jaunty05:45
TeslaTonyIf that doesn't work, ask around at #ubuntu+105:46
timboyi'm having an issue getting it on my second monitor. I get some meta mode error in nvidia-settings... Here is xorg.conf: http://dpaste.com/94031/ anything wrong with it?05:49
antonio_Algun chavo que me pueda ayudar en español?05:50
courtjestergit is to my understanding that kopete hasn't added the myspace protocal but pigen has is there a fix to add it to kopete or plugin or pissible to just take it out of pigen and use for kopete05:51
TeslaTonyes | antonio_05:51
courtjesterghttp://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/09/setup-myspace-im-with-pidgin.html05:51
TeslaTony!es | antonio_05:51
ubottuantonio_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.05:51
antonio_muchas gracias05:52
courtjestergsince kopete is source and good to develop wouldn't be hard to add myspace into it05:54
courtjesterg#kopete05:57
kevin__when i turn on my machine the display resets a few times and makes me start up in low graphics mode and gnome sessions are scrambled but kde is looks ok05:57
shovihow do i set firefox default browser?06:01
courtjestergshould be in edit pref06:01
stdinSystem Setting -> Default Applications06:01
shovithanks06:01
courtjestergi keep it uncheck asking me everytime it starts up usually this is default asking when ff starts06:02
MakuseruWhen ever I open Ardour, the window is longer than my screen is, and when i grab the edge to resize it I can make it longer, but not shorter. Is there any way to force this to resize to a smaller width?06:15
dwidmannMakuseru: right click on the titlebar of the window, go to configure window behavior (or similar) ... under window specific settings you should be able to force a smaller size06:16
courtjestergmy mind is ticking to add myspace protocal to kopete06:23
courtjestergshould be simple if i can get the code06:23
dwidmanncourtjesterg: good luck :)06:26
Makuserudwidmann: it didnt make the horizontal any smaller06:28
dwidmannMakuseru: might have to restart the app06:28
Makuserui did06:29
Makuserui told it to "maximize vertical and horizontal"06:29
Makuseruand the vertical maximized, but the horizontal is still to big06:29
dwidmannMakuseru: specify the geometry instead06:30
shoviwhere is kate located?06:30
shoviin the filesystem06:30
dwidmannshovi: /usr/bin/06:30
courtjestergsee i am looking at this page06:34
courtjesterghttp://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/09/setup-myspace-im-with-pidgin.html06:34
courtjestergwget http://msimprpl.darkthoughts.net/msimprpl-0.16.tar.gz06:34
courtjestergthats what i need to get06:34
courtjestergbut its dead06:35
courtjestergthat package has just the myspace protocal06:35
dwidmannhmmm, I wonder why I'm getting this: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/1929006:38
shovithankyou dwidmann06:39
courtjestergthink i have it06:39
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izzybI've just had kde melt down on me for no obviouse reason.  compiz keeps crashing and now my bar at the bottom has vanashed06:56
izzybI tried restarting the xserver, but that didn't fix it06:56
izzybI remember having this problem once before but don't recall how I fixed it :(06:56
shovican Kate have tabbed windows?07:00
shovior maybe i mean, whenever I open another document, i want it to open as a tab not a new window07:01
dwidmannshovi yes07:01
dwidmannshovi: run it as kate -u07:02
shovican i run it as kate -u every time?07:02
shoviwithout typing it07:03
dwidmannshovi: umm, yeah, just edit its entry in the kmenu I guess07:03
dwidmannshovi: or for console purposes just make an alias for kate="kate -u"07:04
shoviwell like I have php file on my desktop07:05
shoviand i have a kate -u open from terminal07:05
shovibut the php file opens in new window07:05
courtjestergodd reading help in kopete it says this07:10
courtjestergAs well as the protocols named above, Kopete has support for several other protocols. In most cases, this is not enabled by default or an additional plugin must be installed. Meanwhile, SMS, Skype and SILC07:10
courtjestergso the question where to enable or well i read but i don't think there is a plugin for skype on kopete07:11
courtjestergme wonders if this is what the test bed is for hmm07:13
ellipsis_I'm using Ubuntu 8.1 and I just installed the kubuntu package to try out kde07:17
ellipsis_for some reason all tabs are being displayed weirdly07:17
ellipsis_including firefox07:17
ellipsis_the test on all tabs except the currently selected one is lower than it should be07:18
ellipsis_low enough that letters like g, p and y are actually being drawn past the bottom line of the tab07:18
courtjestergwell skype already has a linux version availble wher eyou can have your myspace account added07:22
ellipsis_this is a screenshot of the tab problem07:24
ellipsis_http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/5862/weirdtabsscreenshothg7.png07:24
ellipsis_can anyone help?07:24
jsunioellipsis_: Is that ubuntu you are using or kubuntu07:32
ellipsis_I installed ubuntu but then downloaded the kubuntu package07:32
jsunioellipsis_: kubuntu or ubuntu with kde package?07:32
ellipsis_I went into synaptic07:33
ellipsis_and downloaded the kubuntu-desktop package07:33
jsunioIs that the standard way of morphing into kubuntu? Why not just install kubuntu?07:33
ellipsis_well07:34
ellipsis_I didn't know that I would hate the gnome desktop so much07:34
ellipsis_xD07:34
ellipsis_hm07:35
ellipsis_is there any way I can completely remove KDE and install again?07:35
ellipsis_I'd prefer not to do that07:35
ellipsis_but if that's the only way of fixing the problem...07:35
panicfreekanyone around?07:45
jsunioalmost07:56
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Guest87503am i online?08:11
wizkoderhy everybody08:13
wizkoderdid anybody try gimp 2.6 already? is there a deb package somewhere?08:14
Guest87503wizkoder: hello08:14
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simihi, i am in kubuntu 8.10 and i can't to connect to yahoo with kopete nor pidgin, and i have no ideea why(is not the account, the firewall, the connection,i have the same problem in arch linux) it could be kde?08:22
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Guest87503I've installed Martian drivers (i have winmodem) it works! i can, for example, download files via wget or open sites via elinks. But Konqueror doesn't work with this connection. Can smbd tell me why?08:26
Daisuke_Idoquick question - amarok 1.4.10, xine was unable to initialize any audio driver08:27
Daisuke_Idoit worked last night, and i haven't changed anything since then :\08:27
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Guest31881hey08:33
simihi, i am in kubuntu 8.10 and i can't to connect to yahoo with kopete nor pidgin, and i have no ideea why(is not the account, the firewall, the connection,i have the same problem in arch linux) it could be kde?08:33
simiplease an ideea to troubleshout, i tried other IM too08:33
DeizThe system tray's fairly bloated in a stock install, especially on my laptop's 1024x768 screen.08:34
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DeizIs it possible to hide things such as removable media / power / volume?08:34
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simiDeiz: you can remove what you do not want08:35
faileasDeiz: power, and removable media at least are widgets, so click on the squirly yin yang icon on the right and just adjust it to your liking08:35
DeizI'll give that a shot.08:36
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jsuniosimi: maybe router is blocking that port?08:48
DeizHrm.08:53
DeizUsing the proprietary drivers manager, I'm apparently unable to download and activate drivers for my USB wireless NIC.08:53
DeizHitting Activate will merely turn the entry grey.08:54
jsunioI had trouble with USB wireless with Puppy. But when I switch to kubuntu it worked right off.08:59
jsunioIt didnt need any drivers09:00
DeizAppears I was wrong.09:00
DeizIt's actually my PCMCIA NIC that needs drivers; Broadcom chipset.09:00
DeizThe USB NIC is fine, with a Ralink chipset.09:00
jsunioI have never had to download NIC drivers either. -- How do you know you need drivers for it. Did it tell you?09:02
chasehey i got a question for the kde desktop widgets: i installed the cpu frequency monitor and i need the "ruby-cpufreq" package. tried synaptic and sudo apt-get and no avail. any suggestions?09:03
Deizjsunio: Nah. It's just nonfunctional. Trying to activate it through the knetworkmanager GUI is useless09:04
Deiziwconfig outputs an error that traces back to not having the appropriate driver.09:04
jsunioIs the hardware working? Is the green light on in back when you plug in the RJ-45?09:04
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jsunioDeiz: Or you are using it for wireless or wired?09:05
VistaUserhey09:05
DeizBoth the PCMCIA and USB NICs are wireless, the former I bought with the laptop back in '03, the latter was salvaged from a friend.09:05
DeizThe PCMCIA NIC has WLAN and power LEDs, the latter is lit.09:06
VistaUserYou do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.  what does this mean?09:06
DeizSo at least it gets power, but I'm not sure if that has anything to do with software.09:06
DeizCould just be that having PCMCIA support results in PCMCIA devices receiving power.09:06
jsuniodeiz: using kubuntu?09:07
DeizYeah.09:07
serenityaloh09:07
serenitya09:07
VistaUserserenity u from hawaii09:07
serenityVistaUser: not really, but that is my standard "Hallo"  since a few years09:08
DeizFWIW the graying-out of the restricted driver happens in both [K]ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10.09:08
vr083263Hello09:08
VistaUserlol i am from hawaii09:08
jsuniodeiz: is there a free driver you can use that is similar?09:09
DeizI'm doubting it.09:09
jsunioYuck09:09
jsunioIf I were you, I would pick another distro, a recent one, and see if it works there.09:09
DeizI refuse to delve into nspluginwrapper. Ultimately I can live with a USB NIC, but it's 1 less USB port and 1 more item to carry around.09:09
DeizOh, it does.09:09
basyhi, all I have 2-monitor-twinview working OK (works with nvidia-settings), but often [play games :o)] i need only single monitor... Where to ask for support how to write single scripts that disable/enable my 2-monitor-twinview?09:10
VistaUserbasy can u help me09:11
jsunioVistaUser: what situation did that error message come up?09:11
DeizTried a variety of LiveCDs, and it seems to work in most of them. I like DIY distros on my main machines. Gentoo and Arch, mainly.09:11
jsunioYou saying it works on them but not on Kubuntu?09:11
DeizHowever, I like pre-configured distros on the laptop, and I'd like to try KDE4.09:11
Deizjsunio: I am.09:11
jsunioDid you try Kubuntu live-CD?09:11
DeizI did.09:11
DeizNo dice there, either.09:11
jsunioInteresting....09:12
VistaUseri need help setting up my external monitor09:12
DeizThere are.. 3 distros that use KDE4 out of the box. openSUSE, Fedora, Kubuntu.09:12
DeizI dislike RPM so that leaves me with one choice.09:12
VistaUsermy main to my laptop is broken09:12
guglielmociao09:12
jsunioDeiz: You'd think you could just copy the driver over....09:12
DeizIf I knew where it was looking, I could copy a binary over, yes.09:12
DeizBut I just get a cryptic file-not-found error.09:12
jsunioDiez: Does the version of kubuntu affect whether it works?09:13
jsunioHow old is the card?09:14
jsunioVistaUser: have you set up xorg.conf file before?09:14
VistaUseri just did09:14
Deizjsunio: I'm unsure of how old it is. I'd say perhaps 2002.09:14
VistaUseridk if i did right09:14
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DeizThe proprietary driver enabling issue is present in 8.04 and 8.10.09:15
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AdolaHey, I have a question!09:15
jsunioDeiz: Does it work on previous versions?09:15
serenityalready a ppa for 4.2b1 available?09:15
Deizjsunio: Unsure. I never had anything earlier than 8.04 on the laptop.09:16
VistaUserjsunio how do u know if u set up xorg.conf right if i reboot i am scared i can get back on09:16
AdolaI have an old computer.  And I want to use it for back up...Should I make it a server?09:16
jsunioVistaUser: My xorg.conf has broken before, I end up having to fix it using command line09:16
DeizVistaUser: If you make a copy of your xorg.conf, say xorg.conf.bak, and mess up xorg.conf09:16
AdolaI meant to say, I have MY computer, and an old one.09:16
jsunioVistaUser: so I keep a copy called xorg.conf_bak09:17
VistaUseryah but i dont know that much09:17
DeizYou can simply mv the old copy to the normal spot.09:17
jsuniosudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf_bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:17
jsuniowill restore it09:17
VistaUserok09:17
chase could anyone walk me through installing a widget? i keep getting a cmake error and cannot figure it out09:18
simijsunio: about my connection to yahoo messenger, it takes more then 1 hour for pidgin or kopete to connect, sometimes if i restart it connects faster, but from windows yahoo messenger and pidgin for windows connects imediatly09:18
AdolaHello?09:18
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DeizAdola: What do you mean by "server"?09:19
DeizIn simplest terms, a backup machine can simply be a desktop running an rsync daemon.09:19
jsuniosimi: that's weird.. sounds like a problem with the network?09:20
AdolaOk, thank you!  I mean.. I have basically nothing more than an old harddrive. sitting in a box with crap connected to it...And I want to use it as backup for my current system09:20
courtjestergok this is what i got the pidin im source code and the kopete source code i wonder is it just as simple to just stick the myspace protocal fffrom the pidgen source code into the the other protocal folder for kopete09:21
AdolaOk...Well....What connections would I need??? (I'm on dial-up..)09:21
courtjestergsry pidgin09:21
courtjestergand then recompile09:21
AdolaSo, I have no router or antyhing09:21
jsunioVistaUser: another thing you could do is fix it using a live CD09:21
simijsunio: in windows it works pidgin, in linux is not working(nor kopete) the firewall is disabled and i have no more ideea09:22
lokaium, I have 3 PDFs open with KPDF. They were downloaded to /tmp. Now I want to save them to another directory, but it says that kpdf cannot save them. What's going on?09:22
jsunioIt takes 1 hr to connect, but it always succeeds?09:22
jsuniosimi: It takes 1 hr to connect, but it always succeeds?09:23
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DeizAdola: If the old machine is bootable and you can install a distro on it, then you just need to connect it to your current machine with a crossover cable.09:24
DeizIf it's not, and the hard drive is the only salvageable part, you'd need to either get an external enclosure for it, or put it into your current system.09:24
AdolaAhhH!  Thank you!  Yes, I plan on putting something on it.  Would Xubuntu be a good choice for this?09:24
DeizWhat are the specs on the machine?09:24
lokaium, I have 3 PDFs open with KPDF. They were downloaded to /tmp. Now I want to save them to another directory, but it says that kpdf cannot save them. What's going on?09:25
DeizIf it's really ancient, you might want to go commandline-only.09:25
simijsunio: no, it is still connecting, and it is more then 2 hours since i started pidgin09:25
AdolaHrm...I don't know.  It's not SUPER old.  But...It's bad.  I mean...Ehh....I know for a fact it CAME with XP on it...So, it SHOULD be able to run Xubuntu....Yes?09:26
Deizlokai: Do you have write access to the folder where you're trying to save them?09:26
lokaiyes09:26
DeizAdola: Yes, it can certainly run Xubuntu then.09:26
AdolaExcellent.  So, A crossover cable will be all I need?09:27
=== jacob_ is now known as VistaUser
VistaUserI DID IT09:27
AdolaAnd to just set Xubuntu up on that empty shell of a computer?09:27
VistaUseri did the nvidia thing it work09:27
lokaiI mean -- its in memory even if the temp file was already deleted09:27
VistaUseri am so happy ty everyone09:27
lokaiBecause I can see the freakin PDF09:27
lokaiSo why can't I save it?09:27
Adola(I'm trying to get to newegg to find prices on a "Crossover wire" but, I keep getting timeout errors....)09:27
DeizAdola: Yep. It depends how you want to do backups, though. If you want rsync (Which can handle incremental backups. Such as a full sync weekly, and just the changes daily.) there are plenty of tutorials for setting it up.09:28
DeizAlso, I'd not buy a crossover from Newegg.09:28
DeizYou'll pay far more in shipping than for the actual cable.09:28
VistaUsercan someone help me how i get wineHQ or w/e to run windows progs?09:28
Deizlokai: That's.. odd.09:29
lokaitell me about it.09:29
AdolaVistaUser: Congratz :DDD I had god awful problems wtih ATi09:29
VistaUserty09:29
VistaUsernvidia is a pain to09:29
DeizI'm unsure of how kpdf works. It could be that it's trying to source the files from where they used to be, as opposed to saving from what's in RAM.09:29
VistaUserAdola: u know how to get the programs to run window programs?09:29
lokaiBut that would be STUPID09:29
DeizIt would be.09:30
AdolaOh, Well...Would like...Walmart or Staples have it?09:30
DeizAt some point I had a program that couldn't read/write from tmp09:30
lokaiFile could not be saved in 'file:///home/<USERNAME>/Desktop/0706.0898v1'. Try to save it to another location09:30
Deizlokai: Try saving it back to /tmp09:30
AdolaVistaUser: I'm not prolific.  But, I've used Wine09:30
lokaidoesnt work either, Deiz09:31
VistaUserwere i get that?09:31
courtjestergjust noticed a txt file in protocal folder for kopete source code it has enable and disable switches09:31
DeizAdola: Perhaps. I'd phone first. Most stores have ethernet cables, less have crossovers.09:31
courtjesterg# option(WITH_irc "Enable Kopete IRC protocol" OFF)09:31
jsuniosimi: any relevant error messages in "dmesg"?09:31
courtjestergthey have the irc protocal off in kopete09:31
simijsunio: no just Connecting....09:32
Deizlokai: I'd tell you to copy the contents to a new instance of kpdf, but that's not exactly possible.09:32
VistaUserjsunio: how i get WineHQ?09:32
DeizSeems like it'd be easiest to re-download the PDFs, if you can.09:32
AdolaThank you Diez.  Ilooked at walmart for FIrewire cables...Is that the same thing?09:32
VistaUseris there a command for termanel?09:32
jsunioVistaUser: never heard of it, try google09:32
VistaUserok09:32
jsuniosimi: have most recent version?09:32
lokaiDeiz: Yeah I guess. Does this not count as a bug? I mean, is that really intended behavior?09:32
DeizAdola: Nope. Essentially, the pins on a crossover cable are inverted on one end, so it's the same as an ethernet cable, but backwards.09:33
DeizThey're necessary when you don't have a router or switch and want to connect two machines09:33
jsunioYou can make your own crossover cable from a regular cable09:33
simijsunio: yes, i  tried same pidgin version of pidgin in windows and it works09:33
AdolaVustaUser: Use Wine.  And just follow the lil' wizard that starts up.  You have to browse to your Windows partition.09:33
Deizlokai: Yeah, I'd file a bug.09:33
AdolaYou can?  A regular Ethernet?  I can get hold of an Ethernet pretty easy.09:34
jsuniosimi: I would try it using a different distro--maybe live CD--it could be something else goofy installed.09:34
jsunio(sorry sleep)09:35
Deizlokai: So what'd you do? Load PDF from your browser into kpdf, then eventually the PDFs in /tmp were overwritten and now you can't save them?09:36
maxim__I've installed Martian drivers (i have winmodem). It works! i can, for example, download files via wget or open sites via elinks. But Konqueror doesn't work with this connection. Can smbd tell me why?09:36
VistaUseranyone know How to Install Beryl with latest nvidia drivers in Ubuntu Feisty Fawn09:36
AdolaYou should just be able to use Adept.09:37
AdolaOr Synaptic.09:37
AdolaAnd.  It's called Emerald now.09:37
VistaUseroo ok09:37
AdolaVistaUser: It's called Emerald.  I think...:/  But, use it.  It's great.09:37
lokaiDeiz: Yes exactly.09:37
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VistaUseryah it looks neat09:37
AdolaVistaUser: And your probabbly looking for the goodness of Compiz Fusion.  SO..Get, Compiz as well.09:38
Deizlokai: Giving it a shot to see if I can reproduce it.09:38
VistaUserok09:38
lokaiusing KDE 3, fyi09:38
AdolaVistaUser: It's what I use to inpress my friends to Ubuntu09:38
VistaUserlol09:39
VistaUseri love ubuntu with nvidia graphics09:39
VistaUserit looks pleasing09:39
AdolanVidia graphics?  Graphics are graphics.09:39
VistaUserlol09:39
VistaUsertrue09:39
AdolaOh, and don't be such a nVidia slave...ATi has better hardware...nVidia is just supported better IMHO.09:39
VistaUserlol09:40
VistaUserjealous arent we lol09:40
VistaUserj/k09:40
AdolaOh...And why are you in a Kubuntu  IRC with a name like "VistaUser"?  Just wondering?09:40
VistaUseranything else i should get to enhance ubuntu09:40
VistaUser>>??09:40
Deizlokai: Wasn't kpdf replaced with okular?09:40
AdolaThat's kinda like going into an all-black chat room with the name "KKK"09:40
VistaUseridk lol i just havent found another name09:41
lokaiDeiz: Using KDE309:41
AdolaWell....To enhance further.  Compiz, Emerald,09:41
DeizI see.09:41
VistaUserAdola: anything else to enhance ubuntu?>09:41
lokai(can't stand KDE4...so buggy)09:41
VistaUseroo ok09:41
AdolaVistaUser: AmaroK09:41
VistaUserwhats that?09:41
AdolaVistaUser: It's the best multimedia player IMO.09:42
VistaUseroo ok09:42
AdolaGoogle it.  They are FINALLY coming out with AmaroK 2..Even though it's in Release candidate form righ tnow.09:42
AdolaAlso.  Firefox...It's JUST as good on here as on windows.09:42
VistaUserbrb09:42
AdolaOh, and do you IM?09:42
AdolaOk.09:42
lokaiThanks for talking, Deiz09:43
knusperfroschhi!09:44
knusperfroschanyone running knetworkmanager 0.2 (=hardy) insted of 0.7 on intrepid?09:44
AdolaNo, sorry.09:45
knusperfroschfrom the point of usability: knetworkmanager 0.7 just sucks...09:45
AdolaI'm sorry I can't help you.09:46
VistaUserback09:46
Deizknusperfrosch: I have yet to find a graphical networking tool that I can tolerate.09:46
VistaUserok what was that about IM?09:46
VistaUserAdola: what was that about IM09:47
AdolaDo you?  Do you Instant Message?09:47
VistaUseryah09:47
VistaUserMSN09:48
knusperfroschDeiz: well kneworkmanager 0.2 did it quite well, only screwed up if you travel around and pass hundreds of wlans, makes the UI quite a mess, but at home or somewere else it did it's job quite well09:48
AdolaOk.   I'm sorry Ubuntu/Kubuntu...MSN Plus CANNOT BE BEAT...It IS the BEST IM program...BUT, If your looking for a nice program like that for Ubuntu...Then Pidgin...09:48
AdolaIt's the standard for IM.  There are otherones that are supposed to be like MSN...But, they suck...They really do...The only good one is Pidgin.  It comes with alot of plugins.09:49
VistaUserso what i download lol09:49
AdolaDo this.09:49
* faileas uses kopete, which is ok ;p09:49
faileasoh, and is default in KDE ;)09:49
AdolaClick what would be the "Start" button..Click Add/remove programs.  And search "Pidgin"09:49
Adolayeah, but VistaUser is uing Ubuntu...09:50
DeizBut that's tedious09:50
Deizsudo apt-get install pidgin09:50
VistaUseri want to use KDE but someone said to hard to setup LOL09:50
AdolaAnd...Pidgin is better than Kopete in my opinion....BUTTTTT, I'm using kopete now.09:50
faileaslol09:50
Adola(That's why I said the easy way.  I don't think our friend here is prolific enough to use Kommand)09:50
AdolaSpeaking of which my addy is atiradeonman@hotmail.com if anyone want's to add me ;D09:51
VistaUseryah09:51
VistaUseri am new at it09:51
faileasAdola: its something he REALLY needs to learn. very first thing too...09:51
* faileas can't remember what the gnome terminal emulator is called09:51
AdolaYeah, your right....I knowww....09:51
AdolaTerminal.09:51
faileasof course, if he was using kubuntu i'd suggest installing yakuake09:52
AdolaThat's it.09:52
Adola:D Very creative :D09:52
knusperfroschanyone running kde 4.2beta1?09:52
VistaUserso what i do LOL09:52
faileas(there's a gnome equivilent but i can unabashedly say, its aweful compared to yakuake)09:52
AdolaWhat's Yakuake?  I'm using Kubuntu?  (I couldn't stand that damn foot anymore...)09:52
faileasAdola: its a drop down quake style terminal emulator09:52
Adolaknusperfroshshshsh: No, not yet.  But. I'm considering it.09:52
Deizknusperfrosch: Briefly. Crash-city, which is saying something because I find 4.1 to be fairly unstable in itself.09:52
AdolaAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH09:53
faileasAdola: its a HUGE time saver if you use the terminal a fair bit09:53
VistaUserhow i get faileas09:53
Adolai've yet to hit a snag with 4.1...I think I've had maybe.....2?09:53
AdolaHow you get what?09:53
VistaUserthat Yakuake09:54
knusperfroschDeiz: jupp, but i thaught it couldn't get any worse09:54
knusperfroschDeiz: just looking for the kde4 networkmanager09:54
AdolaOh...yeah, I don't understand what you mean by Drop Down Quake style...Do you mean...Like...In games you press "Tab" and a lil box pops down from the top. with one of theses?  ">" and you go on from there?09:55
VistaUseris there like something like task manager??09:55
faileasVistaUser: if you're on the gnome desktop, i suggest asking help on #ubuntu as opposed to #kubuntu. In either case find terminal (or gnome) or konsole (on KDE)09:55
VistaUserctrl + alt+ delete09:55
faileashmm09:56
* faileas generally uses the command 'top' from cli for that.09:56
Adola~Blushes~  Actually...I too have wondered taht.09:56
faileasthere's also system monitor09:56
Deizfaileas: Ever try htop?09:56
DeizI prefer it greatly.09:56
AdolaI use to be a Windows user as well...And (when 8.10 came out, it was a 6 month anniversary with Linux for me) I still don't know if there is one....09:57
faileas... gah, a little OT, but is there a repartitioner for systems with VERY low memory?09:57
faileasDeiz: stuff like that is why i hang around here. no, and i shall take a poke at it09:57
DeizYou could just use fdisk09:57
DeizIt's not exactly user friendly compared to gparted/qtparted09:57
faileasDeiz: it resizes?09:57
VistaUserwhats difference between kubuntu and ubuntu i thought the same09:58
faileasya, got a box with 128 mb of ram i need to resize the hard drive on. its currently running win98 ;p09:58
faileasVistaUser: the desktop manager09:58
AdolaOk, I need help.09:58
faileasand what software is on by default09:58
DeizI don't recall if it can resize.09:58
VistaUserwhich u prefer faileas?09:59
AdolaUbuntu runs of Gnome.  Kubuntu runs off KDE....I know, it's hard....Google it.09:59
Adola.....Kubuntu...09:59
AdolaNotice the room.09:59
faileasVistaUser: Kubuntu, *but* i recommend trying out a few varients till you find one you like09:59
VistaUserlol09:59
VistaUseroo ok09:59
faileasi'm thinking of getting a lxde box up actually ;p09:59
AdolaThere is Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu.  Lots of them :D10:00
VistaUseri guess i need to get used to commands and what not before taking a step up10:00
faileasVistaUser: it will make your life a lot easier10:00
VistaUserlol10:00
AdolaYeah.  And if you run programs from terminals..You can see outputs easier..And find wehre problems are!10:00
Deizfaileas: Why not take it a step further and use a WM?10:00
AdolaOk.  Can someone please help me now?!?!?10:00
faileasyou can also pastebin outputs, and copy and paste commands ;p10:00
VistaUseris there a button so terminal automatically pops up?10:01
faileasDeiz: well its a system thats gonna be used by people other than me ;p10:01
DeizAww.10:01
DeizMy main system boots to runlevel 3.10:01
AdolaYeah, It's under....."Start">System>Terminal.10:01
VistaUserkk10:02
AdolaOk...I've JUST started using IRC.  And...I ONLY have Kubuntu and Kubuntu-offtopic...How do I add rooms?10:02
faileasDeiz: its a little annoying since its old, and it dosen't have ethernet10:02
Adolahttp://searchirc.com/irc-Final%20Fantasy-110:02
faileasAdola: /join roomname10:02
faileasoh yay, got parted magic working <310:02
AdolaHow do I add one of these rooms?  I promise it's not porn or something dnagerous.10:02
AdolaI just like final fantasy a WHOLE lot...And found theses rooms...How do I...Add them?10:03
VistaUseri can find download link for WineHq10:03
faileasAdola: like, you want to autoconnect to them?10:03
AdolaUmmmm No?  I guess just connect when I want to.10:03
AdolaI doon't even know how to connect to these rooms.10:03
faileasVistaUser: IIRC winehq has its own apt repository, and instructions10:03
faileasAdola: /join #roomname ;p10:04
VistaUseroo cool10:04
VistaUseri like ubuntu its a challenge10:05
faileasVistaUser: i'd also suggest adding medibuntu - it has a load of useful stuff10:05
Adolairc:// #final-fantasy10:05
faileasAdola: /join #final-fantasy10:05
VistaUsermedibuntu is that in Synaptic package thing?10:05
simijsunio:  i tried pidgin from ubuntu 8.04 live cd and kopete from 8.10 kubuntu live cd and it have the same problems, do not connect10:06
faileasVistaUser: no, its an additional 'repository' of software they can't or won't have in the default distribution10:06
VistaUseroo got to find in google10:06
AdolaMedibuntu is very usefull.  I recommend.  Besides..Who doesn't love Google earth?10:06
VistaUserlol10:07
AdolaOk, I'm having problems...On the website..It says there are liked 2-6 current users...When I type /join and the rooom..I'm the only one in there.10:07
VistaUseri miss google chrome10:07
DeizErr, what website?10:07
Adolawww.searchirc.com10:08
faileasAdola: ... wait... what server is it supposed to be on?10:08
DeizThere's your problem.10:08
DeizSites that track IRC member counts often only poll every X minutes, so the data is often old.10:09
DeizAlso, faileas likely has a point.10:09
AdolaOhhh!   Oke!10:09
AdolaI don't know what server.10:10
AdolaThat's what I was asking.10:10
VistaUserhow do u change theme and what not of the OS??10:10
AdolaHow do I join...Anything?10:10
DeizAdola: If it's on the same server, /j #channel will open a new tab for that channel10:11
DeizIf it's on a different server, you need to connect to that server to be able to use that channel.10:11
AdolaOhhh...Well, how do I know what server it is?  (I know how to add them searching the interface here on Konverstaion)10:12
VistaUseroo yah i need to get my wireless up and running10:12
DeizAdola: What channel are you looking for?10:13
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VistaUsergot to reboot to make changes right?10:14
Adolahttp://searchirc.com/irc-Final%20Fantasy-110:14
AdolaAny of these.10:14
AdolaWhat "Server" are these on?10:14
DeizServer == Network10:15
DeizSo GameSurge, IRC-Hispano, EsperNet etc.10:15
maggo79hi. Are there kde 4.2 beta 1 packages available for intrepid?10:15
AdolaThose are the servers?10:15
DeizYep10:16
Adola[05:16] [Info] Server found, connecting...10:17
Adola[05:16] [Error] Connection to Server GameSurge lost: connection actively refused.10:17
Adola[05:16] [Info] Trying to reconnect to GameSurge in 10 seconds.10:17
DeizMost clients don't alias the server names to their full domains10:17
DeizThus, try irc.gamesurge.net10:18
AdolaAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!THANKSYOU!10:18
VistaUserwhich Binary packages of medibuntu do i need?10:20
VistaUser?10:23
DeizVistaUser: That's up to you.10:23
VistaUserooo is it any importance??10:24
DeizMedibuntu is an extra repository that contains packages that may be useful to you, but they can't be distributed in the normal repositories due to legal issues, generally speaking.10:24
VistaUseroo kk10:24
DeizAdobe Acrobat, Google Earth, mplayer, Skype to name a few.10:25
VistaUserkk10:25
VistaUseranything else recommened?10:25
VistaUseri going to restart computer soon thats y10:25
DeizNot really. Medibuntu's a small repository with a few oft-requested packages.10:26
VistaUseroo kk10:26
dddfhreei have a wintv usb tv-card, but i cant get it work. lsusb recognizes it, but tvtime says no signal. any idea10:31
Deizdddfhree: Which model, specifically? There are 13000 Google results for "tvtime wintv"10:34
VistaUserbrb10:35
dddfhreeDeiz: wintv usb10:35
Deizdddfhree: From what I'm reading, you need to copy firmware.10:39
=== jacob_ is now known as VistaUser
VistaUserback10:39
Deizdddfhree: In tvtime, you're seeing a blue screen with No Signal on it?10:40
dddfhreeyeah10:41
webashello..i need very help.. im on kde 4.0 and i got very annoying problem...  ||| all icons of programs dissapeared in kmenu bottom line.. http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4874/nu2922sa7.jpg10:41
dddfhreeDeiz: yes, and it says no tv signal10:42
dddfhreei did modprobe usbvision then installed tvtime10:42
dddfhreeDeiz: lsusb says Bus 005 Device 003: ID 0573:4d21 Zoran Co. Personal Media Division (Nogatech) Hauppauge WinTV-USB II (PAL)10:43
VistaUserhow i use emerald?10:43
webasanybody? :|10:43
dddfhreeDeiz: tvtime says Cannot open capture device /dev/video010:45
Deizdddfhree: The solution I see links to firmware, but the link's dead. :/10:45
VistaUserHow do i use wine?10:50
[360]mattzke[h]Can some one pm me i need help with Kbuntu :D10:50
DeizVistaUser: Wine creates a fake drive C:\ at ~/.wine/drive_c/10:50
VistaUsery cant i download any windows stuff?10:51
DeizVistaUser: You can download any Windows executable.10:51
[360]mattzke[h]Deiz10:51
[360]mattzke[h]can u respond10:51
VistaUserkk10:51
[360]mattzke[h]to my10:51
[360]mattzke[h]. pm10:51
DeizI don't receive queries10:52
[360]mattzke[h]Is there a possible way to run kubuntu without deleting windows?10:52
DeizYes.10:52
[360]mattzke[h]cause im runing windows atm10:52
[360]mattzke[h]Can u tell me?10:52
[360]mattzke[h]How?10:52
gordon125hi10:53
DeizBy default, most distributions will detect your Windows partition and resize it to a fraction of the drive.10:53
gordon125are there kde 4.2 beta 1 packages for intrepid?10:53
[360]mattzke[h]OK10:53
[360]mattzke[h]so10:53
[360]mattzke[h]if i put my kubuntu disc in10:54
[360]mattzke[h]what will happen?10:54
[360]mattzke[h]I'm a n00b :D10:54
DeizYou'll want to boot into the live environment, and hit Install Kubuntu.10:54
[360]mattzke[h]When i install it10:54
[360]mattzke[h]will it overwrite10:54
DeizYes.10:54
[360]mattzke[h]my10:54
DeizNo, it won't.10:54
[360]mattzke[h]Local Disk C:?10:55
DeizAre you wanting to use Kubuntu 8.04 or 8.10?10:55
[360]mattzke[h]8.1010:55
[360]mattzke[h]is wat im d/ling10:55
DeizOkay.10:56
[360]mattzke[h]So it will work?10:56
DeizI'm booting the LiveCD now to check that my memory of the installer is correct10:56
[360]mattzke[h]ok10:56
[360]mattzke[h]do u have multiple comps?10:56
DeizYes, but I'm loading the LiveCD in a virtual machine.10:56
gordon125[360]mattzke[h]: boot up from cd, hit install kubuntu, system is asking for country, name, password and then it ask where to install on. There you have to choose on witch partition to install on.10:57
[360]mattzke[h]Whats the differnece between Live CD and the normal one?10:57
gordon125the live cd is the normal one10:57
[360]mattzke[h]Partition?10:57
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[360]mattzke[h]as i said10:57
[360]mattzke[h]just take it easy with me :D10:57
DeizThe Live CD loads a fully-functional environment that you can fiddle around with before installing.10:57
DeizThe alternate install CD is just a text-installer.10:58
serenityand with the live cd you can play with AND install kubuntu10:58
DeizEssentially, your current hard drive is one large partition, which contains Windows and all of your files.10:58
[360]mattzke[h]Yep10:58
[360]mattzke[h]True10:58
DeizThe Kubuntu installer will want to resize that partition and create a second one.10:58
DeizTrouble is, it's greedy. It'll make your Windows partition as small as it needs to be, which is a problem if you intend to use more disk space on your Windows partition in future.10:59
[360]mattzke[h]So what it will like cut my ahrd drive down and make a new 1?10:59
[360]mattzke[h]Yea well10:59
DeizSomething like that.10:59
[360]mattzke[h]thats what i want to do lol10:59
[360]mattzke[h]:S10:59
[360]mattzke[h]Is there anyway to stop that>?11:00
DeizYes.11:01
[360]mattzke[h]How :D11:01
DeizYou can manually make your Windows partition as large or small as you want it to be.11:01
[360]mattzke[h]How does that work?11:01
DeizIt's quite user friendly, the installer presents you with a graphical bar representing your hard drive.11:01
[360]mattzke[h]Yep11:01
DeizYou can drag it over so that Windows takes up 75% of your hard drive, etcetera.11:01
[360]mattzke[h]Yep11:01
[360]mattzke[h]So if windows takes up 100%11:02
[360]mattzke[h]I wouldnt be able to install kubuntu?11:02
DeizYes, if 100% of the disk was full, you would need to delete some things to be able to resize.11:03
[360]mattzke[h]Ok hang on11:03
[360]mattzke[h]ill check what mine is11:03
[360]mattzke[h]:D11:03
DeizIdeally, you want at least 3-4GB for a Kubuntu install.11:03
serenityif there is free space left you can resize the space windows needs and kubuntu will install on the rest11:04
[360]mattzke[h]i have11:04
[360]mattzke[h]183 gb free11:04
[360]mattzke[h]:S11:04
serenityshould be quite enough ;)11:04
[360]mattzke[h]So what will i have to do11:04
[360]mattzke[h]?11:04
serenityresize windows, so that kubuntu has 20gb or such11:04
[360]mattzke[h]I mean11:05
[360]mattzke[h]when i run the installation11:05
DeizJust follow the installer, it's very intuitive.11:05
DeizOther than prompting you for your name, location, and partitioning, it's entirely hands-off.11:05
[360]mattzke[h]Uhh11:06
[360]mattzke[h]i jsut downloaded it11:06
[360]mattzke[h]its11:06
[360]mattzke[h]a zip file but it has .iso11:06
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DeizExtract the ISO out of it, then burn the ISO to a CD with your burning software.11:07
[360]mattzke[h]Where would the iso be11:07
[360]mattzke[h]cant seem to find it11:07
serenity[360]mattzke[h]: how is the file called you downloaded?11:07
[360]mattzke[h]kubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso11:08
[360]mattzke[h]its coming up as a zip though11:08
[360]mattzke[h]?11:08
serenitytake this iso and burn it to disk11:08
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mattzkeI cant find the iso though11:09
mattzke:S11:09
serenitykubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso is the iso11:09
mattzkeYea11:09
mattzkebut on my comp11:09
mattzkeits coming up as a zip file11:09
mattzke?11:09
mattzkeand cant burn it11:09
mattzkeOk11:10
mattzkenever mind11:10
mattzkeWhat shuld i burn it to11:10
mattzkea DVD11:10
serenitycd11:10
mattzkeor CD?11:10
mattzkeok thanks11:10
serenityshould be around 700mb, so a cd is ok11:11
serenityhere a video tutorial for installation:http://www.linux.com/var/uploads/Media/flash/Kubuntu-install-to-hard-drive.swf11:11
mattzkeyea its 69911:11
mattzkeOk thanks aloty11:11
mattzkeWhen i turn the comp off11:12
VistaUserhow do i change the theme of ubuntu?11:12
mattzkewill11:12
mattzkeit11:12
mattzkeboot from cd?11:12
VistaUseranyone??11:13
DeizVistaUser: Under GNOME, System -> Preferences -> Appearance or something.11:13
Deizmattzke: That depends on your system.11:13
mattzkeahh k11:13
VistaUseroo i mean were can i get the themes11:13
DeizBy default, most systems do.11:13
mattzkeyea11:13
mattzkehavent changed anything11:13
mattzkeso yea11:13
VistaUseri went to a site with themes but idk how to make the thing recognize them and allow me to use11:13
DeizIn the event it doesn't try hitting F12 while at the BIOS screen, which will likely bring up a boot menu letting you choose from CD / Hard Drive / Floppy etc.11:13
DeizVistaUser: IIRC it's drag-and-drop.11:14
VistaUseroooo11:14
serenityor on some systems f211:14
mattzkeok ta11:14
Deizserenity: I wish that were standardized.11:14
serenityDeiz: me too, but why should they? Is written on startup ;)11:14
DeizNot in the BIOS of my P133 laptop. :)11:15
DeizTakes 10s to finish boot checks. I have yet to dedicate time to finding out how to enter the BIOS.11:15
karanhow do you increase the half ions in kubuntuopen connect11:15
faileasDeiz: i just hit random buttons till it works ;p11:16
karanhow do you increase the half open connections in kubuntu11:16
mattzkeDeiz11:17
mattzkeso11:17
mattzkewhen i install11:17
Deizfaileas: Heh. It's prone to odd errors, after which it loads a GUI strikingly similar to twm.11:17
mattzkeand it comes up to the partition screen11:17
serenityDeiz: rebooting and trying11:17
mattzkeDo i11:17
mattzkeDo it manual11:17
mattzkeso i can choose how much disk space its going to take up?11:18
DeizYou're fine to do it with "Guided: Resize existing partitions", which is the default11:18
DeizIt'll give you a percentage of the disk as well as actual space usage.11:18
mattzkeI don't want it to take up all the 183 gb on my harddrive11:18
karanhow do you increase the half open connections in kubuntu11:18
DeizIt'll have something like [Windows NTFS          ]|[      Kubuntu 8.10], and you can drag the divider to change the space usage.11:19
serenitykaran: what do you mean with half open?11:19
* serenity wants to have kde4.2 packages :(11:19
mattzkeSO it won't take my windows off?11:20
DeizIt won't.11:20
mattzkeOk11:20
mattzkehere11:20
mattzkegoes11:20
mattzkethe INSTALLATION11:20
Deizserenity: I want a laptop that isn't a heat-producing mongrel.11:20
mattzkeTHE INSTALLATION*11:20
mattzkelol11:20
mattzkeill11:20
mattzkebbs11:20
mattzke:D11:20
serenityDeiz: but packages for beta1 are more realistic ;)11:20
DeizThe P133 laptop is perpetually cool, the P4 2.53GHz laptop is perpetually 50+ C, with a freshly cleaned heatsink.11:20
DeizPrior to my knowing that it had a block of dust half an inch thick on the heatsink, it'd idle at 65c and overheat with everything except window managers. :D11:21
faileasDeiz: PIV laptops had SERIOUS heating issues.11:21
DeizIndeed. And mine's one of the worst, an Inspiron 5100.11:22
* faileas can actually keep his c2d on his lap with no issues ;p11:22
DeizEh, you might fry your nuts eventually.11:22
serenityfaileas: for how long ;)11:22
faileasi'm trying to work on a PIII 733, but its being a pain11:22
faileasserenity: ~4-5 hours at a stretch ;p11:22
webasis there any way to reset 4.0 kde interface? :\11:22
elwoodhi guys11:23
Deizwebas: Doubtlessly, but I'm not sure which configuration files you'd be removing to achieve that.11:23
elwoodi want to try kde-nightly ....i have to remove my default kde version?11:23
webasDeiz - http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4874/nu2922sa7.jpg this is my problem.. no icons showing on bottom line11:24
Deizelwood: I would assume so. You can't have concurrent KDE3.5 and KDE4, I'd assume the same is true for KDE4 / KDE4dev11:24
elwoodDeiz: well so it wil bve a long day :)11:24
elwoodDeiz: thanks11:25
Deizwebas: Is your right menu/clock/systray normally on the right?11:25
webasyes its oldschool kmenu on right i prefer to use that.. sometimes i use new kmenu...but all programs firefox dolphin any..wont show icons normally..so from right all stuff went to left.. :|11:26
webasi changed users - and another user has no problems..11:26
Deizwebas: I think, since your panel is otherwise working normally, your window list has been deleted/removed.11:26
webasye ye maybe..hm strange how..but ..well how to enable ?11:26
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DeizGo to Add Widgets, and put in a Task Manager.11:27
webaswow big big thanks..11:27
VistaUseri am going to go cya tomorrow11:27
webasalso..how to modify that kbottom line..because now my clock is on the left + all auto loading programs.. :\11:28
Deizwebas: See the half yin-yan on the right?11:28
DeizClick it.11:28
DeizYou can then click and drag your widgets around.11:28
DeizAlso, when you're done, right click the panel and lock the panels11:28
DeizTo avoid this happening again11:29
Deiz*lock the widgets11:29
webasmm what jing jang? :) okay i will try to lock widgets next time..big thanks11:29
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no1peacedragonIn synaptic package manager can i clear out Not Installed (residual config)? I had upgraded from Hardy to Intrepid11:33
Deizno1peacedragon: Yes. That merely means that the configuration files for removed packages still exist. By removing them you'll save a few kilobytes per package, probably.11:35
DeizTo remove them, you need to do a Complete Uninstall.11:35
no1peacedragonDeiz ok thx just wanted to make sure before I pushed buttons that shouldn't be pushed11:36
no1peacedragonI figure in another 10 years I will be good at this11:36
karanhow do you increase the half open connections in kubuntu to increase torrentz speeds11:37
Deizkaran: I'm not aware of a limit.11:39
faileasno1peacedragon: 5 ;p11:39
nikolas_guys can someone hepl me with synchronizing kontact with the horde contacts?11:40
faileasand there will be a certain point of time when your skills improve a LOT ;p11:40
Deizfaileas: And then he can start with CLI11:40
no1peacedragonCLI?11:41
faileasDeiz: lol. actually thats when you improve11:41
Deizcommand-line interface11:41
faileascommand line interface, AKA the one true way of the *nix hacker ;p11:41
no1peacedragonoh lol Heck i just barely know how to update11:42
no1peacedragon;P11:42
faileasno1peacedragon: my first linux experience ended when i realised i didn't know how to install things ;p11:42
DeizMy first *nix experience ended when I had installed FreeBSD but had no idea how to get a graphical environment going. :/11:43
faileaslol11:43
faileasi started with mandriva, then the person who was supposed to have helped me out dumped me. ;p11:44
nikolas_guys can someone hepl me with synchronizing kontact with the horde contacts?11:44
faileasthen suse, then ubuntu11:44
DeizI went from FreeBSD to Debian to SUSE, Fedora, Ubuntu, Gentoo, Fedora again, Ubuntu again, then Arch.11:44
DeizBeen happily using Arch on my desktop for some six months.11:45
Deiznikolas_: What's the Horde?11:45
no1peacedragonfaileas my first experince ended with red hat linux about 10 years ago i got it installed but didn't know how to make it do anything11:45
nikolas_this is the webmail client we use for our corporate email11:45
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DeizI'm unsure11:47
DeizCertainly anything that you can log in to can be synced with Kontact11:48
DeizI just have no idea on how to go about it11:48
mattzkeHey guys how do i download apps?12:00
mattzkeI got Kubuntu working12:00
Deizmattzke: Through Adept12:00
mattzkeWhats that>12:00
mattzkeCan u guide me12:00
mattzke?12:00
mattzkeplease12:00
DeizGo through the menu, Look under Applications -> System12:01
mattzkeThen?12:01
DeizPick either Adept or Synaptic, and search for the program you want12:01
mattzkeI haven't installed adept yet12:02
mattzke:D12:02
DeizAre you using Ubuntu or Kubuntu?12:02
mattzkeKubuntu12:02
DeizOdd.12:02
DeizAFAIK a default Kubuntu install includes both Adept and Synaptic12:02
mattzkeNo wait12:02
mattzkeit says12:02
mattzkeubuntu12:02
mattzke:S12:03
mattzkeBut12:03
mattzkeu downloaded kubuntu12:03
mattzkeand everything12:03
mattzkebut it installed ubuntu?12:03
DeizWhere does it say Ubuntu?12:03
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mattzkeUser mattzke on ubuntu12:04
DeizThat may just be the default hostname12:04
DeizThe menu icon12:04
DeizIs it a K with a gear around it?12:04
mattzkeYea12:04
DeizThen you're running Kubuntu12:04
mattzkeI wanna download a prgram12:08
mattzkebut12:08
mattzkei click12:08
mattzkedownload12:09
mattzkebut under progrees12:09
mattzkeprogress12:09
mattzkenothing comes us12:09
mattzkeup*12:09
DeizUsing Synaptic?12:09
mattzkeAdept12:09
mattzkeBut there in preview12:10
mattzkeAny Ideas?12:11
DeizAdept -> Apply Changes12:12
mattzkeOk thanks12:14
mattzkethat worked :D12:15
mattzkeAiight12:15
mattzkeim going to head off12:15
mattzkethanks for everything12:15
mattzke:D12:15
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=== jacob_ is now known as VistaUser
VistaUserhey13:05
VistaUseranyone there13:05
zer0ohi guys what was the right command to copy a folder? sudo cp - something?13:13
zer0owhat was it?13:13
silvester01sudo cp "source" "target"13:13
elwoodhi13:14
silvester01hi13:14
elwoodagain :)13:14
elwoodwhere is stored the kde menu file?13:14
silvester01maybe in your personal folder13:14
elwoodyes but in .kde?13:15
silvester01maybe13:15
silvester01.kde/share/config/kickerrc13:16
matissehi13:18
silvester01hi13:18
matisseIf I want to change file type handling for .qti files but not for simple text files which my .qti is recognized as, what should I do ?13:19
matisse(Or is this sentence so wrong, that nobody understands it ?)13:20
silvester01a little bit13:20
silvester01you want handel your .qti files but not your text files13:20
matisseyes13:20
matisseI have a .qti file, which is recognized as "Simple text". What happens if I change "Always open with QTIplot" ?13:21
silvester01all qti files will open wit13:21
silvester01sorry13:21
matisseand not the simple text files too ?13:22
silvester01all files with ending .qti will open with QTIplot13:22
silvester01only files with .qti13:22
matissek13:22
matissethx13:22
silvester01pls13:22
matissedidn't want to mess up my system, thats why I asked :)13:22
silvester01ok,13:23
matissewell, you're wrong :/13:24
elwoodsilvester01: thanks, i update ti nightly and get no menu13:25
elwoodsilvester01: but now i have  chance :)13:25
silvester01the file type handling is only for file endings13:25
silvester01ok13:26
matissewhen using windoze, yes13:26
matissebut .txt is also opened with qtiplot13:26
matissebut I know where I could change the settings correctly13:28
silvester01you can handle the problem with a startskript13:29
silvester01wait a second13:29
matissechanged it in konqueror settings13:30
matisseor wait13:30
matissedo you thought I have dolphin ?13:30
matissedid you think13:30
matissewhats with that file ?13:32
silvester01this, must be the correct start skript, you must change the txt file programm and the name13:33
matisseas you see it doesnt work13:34
matissedu musst angemeldet sein bei Freenode13:34
yohanesheloo13:37
silvester01#!/bin/sh13:43
silvester01case "$1" in13:43
silvester01    *.qti|*.QTI)13:43
silvester01        QTIplot "$1" ;;13:43
silvester01    *)13:43
silvester01        kate "$1" ;;13:43
silvester01esac13:43
kopertonhi how could i disable this ? http://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=konquerorasksenddt1.jpg13:43
koperton:'(13:47
kopertonnobodu has ideas to disable this http://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=konquerorasksenddt1.jpg13:47
koperton*nobody13:48
matissesilvester01: wb :)13:51
matisseso, but where should I "put" it ?13:51
maxbaldwinkoperton: Konqueror --> Preferences --> Browse through the download section.13:52
matissesilvester01: sending files on freenode only works if you're registered13:52
kopertonmaxbaldwin: download section? mm i have not i have java javscript cache13:53
kopertonand that stuff13:53
kopertonmaxbaldwin: i am blind where is preferences i have only configure konquerror13:56
maxbaldwinkoperton: well after some looking around, I didn't find a download section either.13:57
maxbaldwinSo I dunno. :\13:58
kopertonsigh13:58
maxbaldwinbut it's just a click of _one_ button, so it's not that much in the way.13:58
kopertonmaxbaldwin: mm well it's not this the point because i get error from server14:02
maxbaldwinoh... no idea then. :\14:03
acemo!kde4.214:03
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kde4.214:03
acemo!kde 4.214:04
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kde 4.214:04
kopertoninstead with firefox you have nto to answer to that question i think it's this cuz firefox can upload and konqueror not14:05
VistaUserwhat is default display manager??? gdm or kdm14:06
JontheEchidnait doesn't really matter14:07
JontheEchidnaexcept that one uses the kubuntu theme and the other uses ubuntu's theme14:07
VistaUserso kdm is kubuntu theme?14:07
knusperfroschkdm theme? take a look at solar mania14:10
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SkEmOHAPPY THANKSGIVING!! :D14:13
acemoabout how soon should i expect kde 4.2 beta 1 packages for kubuntu?14:14
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ActionParsnipyo yo yo14:17
koperton[15:01] <koperton> maxbaldwin: mm well it's not this the point because i get error from server14:17
koperton[15:02] <koperton> instead with firefox you have nto to answer to that question i think it's this cuz firefox can upload and konqueror not14:17
CugelHello people.14:25
gghello :)14:25
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ActionParsniphi Cugel14:25
CugelI'm running Kubuntu Intrepid. Was wondering how I can 'upgrade' to the KDE 4.2 beta. Any repos?14:26
bentob0xlol, I was about to ask the same14:26
tkstkawhat was the command for checking your systems upgrade number?14:26
bentob0xCAN'T WAIT FOR KDE4.2!!!14:26
vbgunzthe icons in my system tray sometimes lose there transparency... the background turns white... on a black task bar... I see this all the time. anyone know whats happening?14:26
ActionParsnipCugel: i doubt it, i think you will have to compile14:26
Cugeltray = buggy14:26
bentob0xis it hard ActionParsnip?14:26
ActionParsnipvbgunz: mine do that too, i'm over it14:26
acemoCugel: as long as there isn't any post on kubuntu.org about 4.2 then u wont be able to get em from repos.14:27
ActionParsnipbentob0x: as long as you have the dependancies its flawless14:27
Cugelhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/24739314:27
ActionParsnip!compile | bentob0x14:27
bentob0xnice14:27
ubottubentob0x: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)14:27
Cugelanyone running the beta?14:27
ActionParsnipCugel: im sitting on 4.1 for now14:28
BluesKajHiyas14:29
tkstkawhat command I get to know what versio number my Kubuntu is?14:30
acemoecho 'uname -a'?14:30
vbgunz"CTRL+ALT+F1" + "CTRL+ALT+F7"  ... heh, works but is an insane workaround... thanks Cugel14:31
tkstkawhat is a good torrent program for kubuntu?14:33
vbgunztkstka: I do not believe there is any command that will tell you -> Hardy, Inteprid or Jaunty, etc... nor 8.04, 8.10, 9.04... its something you just have to know14:33
bentob0xtkstka: ktorrent14:33
bentob0x!ktorrent | tkstka14:33
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent14:33
bentob0x^^14:33
vbgunzanother way is to go to system help and check about kubuntu14:34
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Dragonathhow come 'sh /home/user/nwn/nwn' works in a terminal window but doesnt work once I paste the command into the k menu editor?14:34
vbgunzDragonath: most likely the space14:34
vbgunzmake the nwn file executable and then link to it directly without sh14:35
tkstkaI once saw one of my friends who had some other linux. He had cool transperacy can I get one in kubuntu?14:35
Dragonathvbgunz: ls -la shows its permissions as -rwxrwxr-x14:35
tkstkaand he had some cool quick button that made the desktops in to a 3d cube14:36
tkstkacan those be done in kubuntu?14:36
maxbaldwinwhat's the right way to install kde4 over gnome?14:36
maxbaldwinwhat packages?14:36
Cugelkubuntu-desktop?14:36
maxbaldwinfor kde4?14:36
vbgunzDragonath: put it in your menu without the sh prefix14:36
maxbaldwinand that's it?14:36
Cugeltkstka: cube is in 4.2...14:36
Cugel4.1 has excellent effects, I have to admit.14:37
tkstkaI have kde 414:37
Dragonathvbgunz: it doesn't start, it just keeps hanging14:37
tkstkaso I need to upgrade14:37
tkstkahow do I do that?14:37
tkstkaI'm probably annoying as hell.. asking so noob questions all the time :P14:38
knusperfroschtkstka: build the sourcepackages or wait for .debs14:38
vbgunzDragonath: is it that the script nwn only makes sense in terminal or something? no gui?14:38
acemotkstka: u wait for the announcement on kubuntu.org about kde 4.2 and when its there, follow the instructions that it gives you. at the moment, u can't upgrade to kde 4.2 yet without compiling yourself14:38
Dragonathvbgunz: it starts neverwinter nights14:38
tkstkaso the kde 4.2 hasnt arrived yet for kubuntu?14:38
tkstka:O14:38
tkstkawhen will it come?14:39
Dragonathvbgunz: it might want to throw error messages into the terminal14:39
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vbgunzDragonath: not sure what the issue is exactly :/ usually if it is executable and doesn't need a terminal you can leave off the sh prefix...14:39
acemotkstka: i don't know when it will come, havent talked to anyone thats working on making the packages about it yet.14:40
tkstkaok thanks14:40
Dragonathvbgunz: yeah it's weird, but it's not like I desperately need it in the menu, just wanted it to be easily accessible, no worries14:40
acemotkstka: i'm guessing it should be in a few days.14:41
knusperfroscherm, what's that knetworkmanager package for? seems to be empty14:41
vbgunzDragonath: you can try setting the working directory14:42
vbgunzcheck advanced settings in new entry14:42
jewel_internal error, disk drive cannot be mounted14:42
jewel_What does it mean?14:42
jewel_I'm using ubuntu8.1014:43
knusperfroschjewel_: have a look at dmesg | tail14:43
Dragonathvbgunz: tried that already, also the run in terminal and run as different user things (I am on kde3.5)14:43
vbgunzI envy you :)14:43
DragonathI'm finding it hard not to envy myself too :P14:44
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jewel_Ifound14:45
jewel_[ 9201.032039] eth0: auto-negotiating...14:45
jewel_[ 9211.056083] eth0: auto-negotiating...14:45
jewel_[ 9221.080051] eth0: auto-negotiating...14:45
jewel_[ 9231.104100] eth0: auto-negotiating...14:45
jewel_[ 9241.128049] eth0: auto-negotiating...14:46
jewel_[ 9251.152026] eth0: auto-negotiating...14:46
jewel_[ 9261.176045] eth0: auto-negotiating...14:46
jewel_[ 9271.200058] eth0: auto-negotiating...14:46
Dragonathnoo14:46
jewel_[ 9281.224049] eth0: auto-negotiating...14:46
jewel_[ 9291.248041] eth0: auto-negotiating...14:46
jewel_but didn't understand anything14:46
knusperfroschJontheEchidna: jewel_ use nopaste!14:46
knusperfroschJontheEchidna: sry14:46
acemojewel_: please use a paste site so you don't spam the chat, http://paste.ubuntu.com14:47
Dragonathturns out that setting the command to 'sh /home/user/nwn/nwn' and work path to '/home/user/nwn/' results in the game starting but the screen flickering with something awful14:47
JontheEchidnaknusperfrosch: no problem :)14:47
knusperfroschjewel_: and your networking has nothing to do with trying to mount some disk.14:48
knusperfroschjewel_: what are you trying to mount, what do you use to mount it etc.. be a bit more verbose ;)14:48
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francesco_ciao15:01
francesco_come mai kubunto non trova i pacchetti di skype?15:01
maxbaldwin!spanish | francesco_15:02
ubottufrancesco_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.15:02
francesco_sorry15:02
maxbaldwinI have no idea what he's saying. :(15:02
maxbaldwinoh, maybe wait. that's okay.15:02
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francesco_i dont know how I can install spype on my kubuntu15:03
maxbaldwinokay, now it makes sense! :D15:03
francesco_sorry but my englisch is teriibol15:03
acemofrancesco_: http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/linux/ you can download it here15:04
maxbaldwinor if that doesn't work, try here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92521115:05
francesco_thank you15:07
acemofrancesco_: your welcome, have fun skyping ^^15:08
francesco_ahh sorry but I must clic on (Ubuntu 7:04?15:11
acemofrancesco_: yup15:12
maxbaldwinfrancesco_:  yes15:12
maxbaldwinwhat acemo said15:12
acemofrancesco_: the ubuntu package is for all ubuntu versions.15:12
francesco_sorry but I m not so expert15:14
acemofrancesco_: no problem, glad to be of service15:16
* genii puts on a pot of Tim Horton's coffee for the channel15:17
alebocohi guys, i'm currently unable to load the bluetack lists into ktorrent... can any one help me sort it out?15:18
elwoodahi all15:19
elwoodanyone using kde-nightly on intrepid?15:19
Tm_Telwood: what about it?15:20
Tm_Taka "don't ask to ask, just ask" (:)15:20
elwoodempty menu, either kickoff and lancelot.15:21
elwoodit's a "bug"?15:21
Tm_Telwood: and your ~/.menu/ doesn't contain anything which doesn't belong to there?15:22
elwoodTm_T: i have both, kde4.1 from "normal" ibex and kde-neon. same /home different .kde .kde-neon but only in the 1st i have menu full.15:22
elwoodi suppose because neon's stuff is in /opt. maybe a link problem :)15:23
Tm_Telwood: perhaps15:23
elwoodthere is a command to regenerate menu?15:23
tkstkaSo added new harddrives.. linux seems to see them but I cant open15:24
tkstkait just gives blank15:24
Shaan7I have "Intel Corporation 82573L Gigabit Ethernet Controller" network card on my laptop, runs fine on ubuntu 8.10 but in kubuntu 8.10 it says "eth0 down" before i connect a wire, and "eth0 disconnected" after connecting the wire. I have a manual IP config, have configured it using KNetworkManager. Any idea whats wrong?15:25
Tm_Ttkstka: you need to format/partition them?15:25
Tm_Telwood: kbuildsycoca4 --noincrement ?15:25
tkstkaTm_T no I dont want to there are stuff there15:26
Tm_Ttkstka: and they have what filesystem?15:26
tkstkathere are movies and music and other usefull stuff there15:26
elwoodTm_T: i found a workaround on launchpad, thanks :)15:26
Tm_Telwood: ah, good15:26
tkstkantfs15:27
tkstkaTm_T:15:27
Tm_Ttkstka: hmmm, and you get them mounted properly?15:27
manishBy mistake i lost my open office suite and now i am not able to install it back. this haapend when i installed local language pack (HIndi) from system settings. Please tell me how do i get it back. When i try to install it again using synaptic it says unresolvable dependencies. please help15:28
elwoodTm_T: but your command is useful! adding to my memo15:28
tkstkawell I havent done anything to the hard drives yet15:28
tkstkaI'm so noob15:28
manishGenii: By mistake i lost my open office suite and now i am not able to install it back. this haapend when i installed local language pack (HIndi) from system settings. Please tell me how do i get it back. When i try to install it again using synaptic it says unresolvable dependencies. please help15:28
Tm_T!mount | tkstka15:28
ubottutkstka: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter15:28
manish!openoffice15:29
ubottua free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org15:29
geniimanish: Perhaps it is still installed but lacking understanding of Hindi if it was originally installed in another language15:30
manishGenii: SO how do i get it back.15:30
geniimanish: Have you tried install of Hindi openoffice language pack? eg:   sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-l10n-hi-in15:31
manishgenii:15:33
manishopenoffice.org-l10n-hi-in is already the newest version.15:33
manishopenoffice.org-l10n-hi-in set to manually installed.15:33
manishso what does this mean...15:33
tkstka!GParted15:33
ubottugparted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php15:33
manishGenii: Can you see what the o/p says when i try to install the way you just asked me to....15:34
geniimanish: Does result of: apt-cache policy openoffice.org                report?15:35
manishsorrt to say: can you explain in simple terms, what you mean by that....15:36
geniimanish: Also, my nickname does not have uppercase G, so it does not flag to me to look here if you spell it that way :)15:36
manishok i will take care of that15:36
geniimanish: In Konsole, to issue: apt-cache policy openoffice.org               ..this will tell what version of openoffice you have available and which is installed if any (has *** next to)15:37
geniimanish: Don't paste entire results of command to here15:37
manishgenii: it says : Installed none15:38
manishgenii: do you want to see the complete o/p15:38
manishcan i pm you the results of commands. coz the net connection is real slow out here and its really very long if i use the pastebin15:39
manishgenii: now what do i do. please let me know15:40
manishGenii:  I just switched back my system language and other language to english so should i log off and log back in and see if something happens15:41
geniimanish: Just report line which has in it the *** if there is one15:41
manishgenii: no line with 3 stars (***)15:42
manishdoes that mean that i will have to download complete openoffice all over again....?   :(15:43
geniimanish: So then to try:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openoffice.org15:43
geniimanish: The file you downloaded earlier of it should still be on the computer, which it will want to use first15:43
manishgenii: so how do i tell the comp to use the downloaded file first15:44
geniimanish: It will wan to do that on it's own15:44
genii*want15:44
geniimanish: The file will be in /var/cache/apt/archives15:45
geniimanish: This is if you used before apt-get or Synaptic or Adept to install it, and not some odd way like downloading the source of it or such15:46
manishgenii: again the same results. It got updated and then after that gave the result as "unresolvable dependies15:48
tkstkaso I formated I used ext2 this was first in the option15:48
snyderiosi've got a questen too15:48
tkstkadid I do right?15:48
manishthere are only 2 files by the name open office. one is by the name help-hi-... and other is -l10n-hi-in....15:48
manishgenii:15:49
snyderiosnow i use kubuntu 8.04 with kde3 and i'm thinking about an upgrade to 8.10 with kde4.. now my question: is there konqueror also in kde4 oder just Dolphin?15:49
geniimanish: I  know for you pastebin is slow. But please pastebin the entire result of that command15:49
manishok15:49
andybleadensnyderios: I think there is konqueror for kde 415:50
acemosnyderios: there is also konqueror in kde415:50
faileassnyderios: conqui is still there as a browser. dolphin as a file manager15:50
faileas*konquiror15:50
snyderioshmm as a browser i use firefox3 but now under kde3 the dolhpin isn't great.. i missed the file-tree so i still use the conqueror15:51
liquidI got question, what named programs should i install, so i can watch youtube videos?15:51
liquidSorry, im new whit kubuntu.15:51
acemoliquid flashplugin-nonfree15:51
snyderiosliquid: you need the flashplugin for your browser15:51
liquidIm using adept manager15:52
liquidthanks15:52
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manishgenii: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/77407/15:53
snyderiosliquid than search in the adept manager for "flashplugin-nonfree" and install it15:54
manishgenii: i want to install the latest version abailable in net of openoffice even if thats beta. So please tell accordingly15:55
tkstkaI need help.. I made sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/sdc1 /media/Waret2 -o defaults,umask=0 and it gives me a complaint about superblock?15:55
tkstkawhat do I do15:55
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Tm_Ttkstka: /dev/sdc1 isn't ext2 ?15:56
tkstkashould be15:56
tkstka:o15:56
manishgenii: can you see the pastebin please let me know as i am not sure when my computer gets disconnected15:57
user6hi guy15:58
user6s15:58
user6i got a trouble15:58
geniimanish: To give you instructions on to install the latest version available of openoffice would be long and complicated, and as well only the versions which come in the repositories which are with (k)ubuntu are the supported versions15:59
user6I'm try to install kubuntu in Fujtsu Siemens Amilo A, but it stop during formatting partition....16:00
geniimanish: The openoffice website has instructions if you are actually wanting to go that path however16:00
tkstkacan I make cryption to my hard drives now? or do I need to format? and start all over again?16:00
tkstka::D16:00
user6... on HD there was a Xubuntu16:00
manishgenii: ok then can you just help me solve this dependency prob. Then i will log on to the website and install the latest version16:01
rmitchelluser6: did it give you any errors?16:01
geniimanish: Remove or comment out for the time being the intrepid-propsed repositories. Then issue again the command of:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openoffice.org16:04
user6rmitchell: no it stuck and remain in some point16:05
user6rmitchell: each time different....16:05
rmitchelluser6: can you still boot into the Xubuntu?16:05
user6rmitchell: ahhh.... right, in a case it say "failed to create partition"16:05
user6rmitchell: i don't know.... i had to try16:06
geniitkstka: After install you cannot easily encrypt the root / only subsequent partitions or so. You want to do this part during install normally16:06
rmitchelluser6: any reason you want a fresh Kubuntu install? You could install the kubuntu-desktop package on top of xubuntu16:07
rmitchellsave you the trouble of an install16:07
liquidthat was good to know16:08
manishgenii: i cant see any of the proposed repositories in Ubuntu sofware tab of Manage repositories16:08
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user6rmitchell: if xubuntu still runs...16:08
manishgenii: sorry i got it16:08
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manishdo u want me to remove the interepid pack-ports also16:09
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rmitchelluser6, did it fail before formatting?16:09
user6rmitchell: but it's better to format all and reinstall....16:09
user6rmitchell: yes xubuntu fail...16:10
liquidor reburn perhaps?16:10
user6rmitchell: because HD was take from another laptop16:10
rmitchellah16:10
manishgenii: same results16:10
user6rmitchell: i think that i haad to format HD manually16:10
rmitchelluser6, will it allow you to remove all of the partitions from the disk?16:10
user6rmitchell: yes16:11
user6rmitchell: no data to save16:11
rmitchellare you in a livecd?16:11
user6rmitchell: is now entering16:12
tkstkaI tried to make torrent work... but it didnt it said cannot symlink /media/...16:12
manishgenii: what now???16:13
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rmitchelluser6, I assume you're managing partitions through the installer, it may work better to gparted16:15
geniimanish: Try:  sudo apt-get install -f openoffice.org16:15
manishgenii: what does this do16:16
jessie_morrisso I have a Sony SDT-10000 SCSI tape drive. It shows up on my SCSI controller card, but I cannot find it once I boot up the Debian Box. I'm running Etch with all updates. I already asked in Debain, but nobody answered, so I figured this would be the second best place16:16
geniimanish: It attempts to fix the dependencies of a package16:16
manishthe same result16:16
manishgenii:16:16
manishnow do i have got any other oprion16:17
maxbaldwinforces it to install, manish16:17
maxbaldwinnevermind16:17
manishcan you guess why is this happening16:17
maxbaldwindownload it from the site, compile it yourself?16:17
manishthanks maxbaldwin16:17
* maxbaldwin shrugs16:17
maxbaldwinyou can try it16:18
Alex-83Bonjour, quelqu'un parle francais ?16:18
manishi am rightnow trying to download it from the site (the deb version) will i still face this problem16:18
manishor will ti install16:18
tkstkacan someone help? when I use ktorrent it doesnt let me use the partition I selected.. Says "cannot symlink"16:18
maxbaldwin!french | Alex-8316:18
ubottuAlex-83: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr16:18
geniimanish: Please pastebin result of this command: apt-cache policy openoffice.org-writer openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-impress openoffice.org-draw openoffice.org-math openoffice.org-base openoffice.org-report-builder-bin16:18
manishmaxbaldwin: please check this out V16:18
simon__can i get help with installing the kdenetwork update?16:18
user6rmitchell: i've looked for gparted but i haven't found it16:19
manishthis is not for you genii. for you i am pating the output just hold on16:19
maxbaldwindo what genii wants first16:19
geniimanish: I am suspecting it cannot install those other items becasue you previously manually did it not from package manager16:20
user6rmitchell: I had to download it for repositories .... in live CD?16:20
manishhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/77416/16:20
manishi am sorry but i dont remember16:21
manishplease tell me what do i do now16:21
manishgenii16:21
maxbaldwinmanish: Please pastebin result of this command: apt-cache policy openoffice.org-writer openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-impress openoffice.org-draw openoffice.org-math openoffice.org-base openoffice.org-report-builder-bin16:21
manishhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/77416/16:22
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manishmaxbaldwin:16:22
manishi have done so16:22
manishplease check that out16:22
rmitchelluser6: go ahead and install it from the repo16:22
geniimanish: Paste seems to indicate there are mixed versions of 3.0 and 2.4 in the repositories you are using, which is odd. However. Try install one by one.16:23
manishgenii: maxbaldwin: can you take the effort to explain to me what the op means coz i am not able to understand a single line there16:24
manishhow genii:16:24
geniimanish: eg: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-writer openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-impress openoffice.org-draw openoffice.org-math openoffice.org-base openoffice.org-report-builder-bin16:24
manishshould i type this command in the terminal16:25
manishgenii:16:25
geniimanish: In Konsole.16:25
geniimanish:  Just copy from here, you don't need to retype it all16:25
manishya done so16:25
manish but same result16:25
user6rmitchell: done ... Now i had to parting it but I don't know how.... there's some totorial to guide me?16:25
manishgenii16:25
manishhow do i remove every trace of openoffice from my computer and then may be i could install fresh 3.0. will that work16:26
manishgenii:16:26
geniimanish: I doubt same result since it listed previously all those as "not going to be installed". The error is probably different than before but to you looks same. Please pastebin error message16:26
manishinitially too it was the same : Not going to be installed16:27
rmitchelluser6: does it list any partitions?16:27
manishstill i will paste bin the error16:27
geniimanish: No. 1 minute16:27
user6rmitchell: i describe to you my situation.... gparted report hda1 EXT3 26,75 GB , hd2 extended 1,2GB , hd5 linux-swap 1,19Gb16:28
manishk16:28
manishhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/77418/16:28
Nece228does kubuntu 8.10 in my amd athlon 64 3000+ 2ghz 1.5 gb ram ati radeon 9600 fly?16:28
Nece228i mean does kde 4.1 will work fast16:29
geniimanish: Try just: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-writer=2.4.1-11ubuntu2.116:29
manishgenii: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/77418/16:29
manishare you sure you want me to install the previous version16:29
rmitchelluser6: you can click on them in the list, then the delete icon, delete hda1 and hda216:30
manishno worries see the output: Version '2.4.1-11ubuntu2.1' for 'openoffice.org-writer' was not found16:30
manishgenii:16:31
rmitchelluser6: this will destroy all data on those two partitions16:31
geniimanish: The problem seems that you have manually installed ony parts of version 3, since dpkg has records of this version but cannot attribute it's origin to any known repository. this is what comes of manually messing with different versions and bypassing the package manager.16:32
mcxxhi, I'm having problems with two monitors in Kubuntu 8.04 - I didn't success with configuring them in xorg.conf so I tried xrandr. That works OK as long as I have the second (external) monitor normally, but when I rotate it 90 degrees with xrandr, the refreshing of the display is really slow (cca 3s), any idea how to fix this?16:32
user6rmitchell:  i have deleted hd116:32
user6rmitchell: selected hd2 .... but no operation is allowed16:32
manishso what do i do now. as it is the only thing i use in my pc so i would like to have it any ways16:33
manishgenii16:33
rmitchelluser6: is it mounted?16:33
manishplease help me resolve the issue16:33
user6i see on hd2 a lock16:33
rmitchelluser6: right click it, select unmount16:34
user6rmitchell: i don't know if it mounted16:34
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user6rmitchell: not allowed16:34
geniimanish: You obviously previously downloaded a deb or so of version 3 earlier. Where did you put that deb file?16:34
Nece228does kubuntu 8.10 fly in my amd athlon 64 3000+ 2ghz 1.5 gb ram ati radeon 9600?16:34
rmitchelluser6: open Konsole, type mount16:35
manishi  have lost it probably as i downloaded it using a friends pc16:35
rmitchellsee if its listed16:35
manishso do i need to get that deb now.16:35
manishand will it solve the present issue of package manager not recognising it and will i be able to update that using package manager later on16:35
geniimanish: Get the deb. Put it on your desktop. Then in Konsole to issue something to effect of:    sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/thatfilename.deb                 But put of course the actual filename there16:36
manishi cal also click on that deb so that it installs automatically right>>16:36
manishor will that make matters worse16:36
user6rmitchell: hd2 is not listed .... but i have a list of 10 dev16:37
geniimanish: The output from running it in terminal will be more useful if it fails16:37
user6rmitchell: many of them are tmpfs16:37
manishk16:37
linuxmcehi, im having some major problems with linuxmce16:38
manishso is there any other way of doing it16:38
geniimanish: You will NOT be able to update it from package manager later if you install it manually from deb file16:38
manishbecause my friend is out of station and wont be returing home for a week or so genii:16:38
user6rmitchell: now i can delete hd516:38
geniimanish: Because the deb file will not be associated as having originated in some repository that Kubuntu knows about16:38
manishok16:38
user6rmitchell: for hd2 i can only resize16:38
genii!mce | linuxmce16:39
ubottulinuxmce: The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mintsupport), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate16:39
manishso if i type using konsole then it will associate???16:39
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manishgenii:16:39
geniimanish: No16:39
linuxmcei have a couple questions on mce, if you can help me16:40
acemolinuxmce: try #linuxmce16:40
manishgenii: as i said is there any other way of doing this as it will take real long for him to return (atleast a week)16:40
geniimanish: If you install some deb file at all, whether from using dpkg in Konsole or from the graphical deb install, it will not be able ever to update it. Because the deb file is a static thing you downloaded, frozen in time, and there is no repository for the package manager to go look at to see if a newer one exists16:40
linuxmcei'm banned from the cahnnel?16:41
manishok so how do i download it from a repository when the repository does not allow me to do so16:41
geniilinuxmce: You're banned from channel of #linuxmce ?16:41
user6rmitchell: i have clear all the hard disk... it is a 1 piece of 27.95 gb unallocated16:41
acemolinuxmce: why did they ban you?16:41
geniilinuxmce: Perhaps because your name is reserved on that channel16:42
manishcan you suggest me someway to completely remove open office and then reinstall it using repository16:42
linuxmceim not sure? this is a fresh install and i have never tried to get into that before16:42
linuxmcei see16:42
manishand will that solve the problem16:42
manishgenii:16:42
linuxmcehmm16:42
linuxmcehow do i change my name? im sorry but im really new to linux16:43
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manishhey genii: o got something in this path see whether it is of some assistance: /home/manish/.openoffice.org/3/user16:44
geniimanish: Your package lists are in a mess because some came from repositories and others did not, and likely some packages are reported as being only partially installed or so. Try cleaning it up a bit with: sudo dpkg --configure -a16:44
manishthere are many folders in this directory16:44
wodenHow do I search for packages using Adept?16:44
manishgenii: do i run that now???16:44
manishgenii: nothing happened16:45
geniimanish: The contents of that directory are currently not relevant16:45
manishk16:45
ugaguys, I'm doing some fun sysadmin work, so lets see if anybody here can help me... is there  a way to a) let a user change  the linux password through the web safely? I've seen some php script, but I'm worried that this script would be run as root..... b) share folders through the web?16:45
wodenFor example I want to search for sdl or libsdl, but Adept just shows programs like SDLjump or SDL Slash'EM.  I want to search all packages with sdl in the name or description, not just programs.  How do I do that besides using the terminal?16:45
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manishi issued that command in the konsol but it seems nothing happened16:45
manishgenii16:45
ugaI want to setup this thing so that the users don't need to know anything about this box being linux16:46
ugaI've setup saned and others so that they can scan and print remotely, but samba is an annoyance there (domain based network with clueless sysadmins)16:46
ugaso I'd prefer sharing through webdav or similar16:47
wodenOk fine, another question.  How do I add application launchers to my KDE panel?  Like for example, Konqueror, Konsole, or any custom application I might want?16:47
geniimanish: sudo dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq openoffice.org-writer openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-impress openoffice.org-draw openoffice.org-math openoffice.org-base openoffice.org-report-builder-bin16:48
ugawoden: in what KDE version/panel?16:48
wodenuga:  I'm using kubuntu 8.1016:48
ugawoden: uhm... not sure if it worked in that version, but try drag and dropping the menu entry to the panel16:48
user6rmitchell: thank you ... byddy i have done....16:48
ugawoden: it works on kde 4.216:48
user6rmitchell:16:48
ugais there a #kubuntu-freaksysadmins maybe? =)16:49
wodenuga: I tried that it doesn't work there is a red circle with a red slash through it when I try to drag it onto the panel.16:49
ugashame16:49
user6rmitchell: now i had to install from live cd or is better to istall it directly16:49
user6?16:49
ugawoden: that should work on the most recent kdes... sorry, I run svn trunk here16:49
manishgenii: this is the message that is comming for all the packages i am gving you just the first line of it:16:50
manishdpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove openoffice.org-writer, only the config16:50
manish files of which are on the system.  Use --purge to remove them too.16:50
ugawoden: right click, add widget.... application launcher16:50
wodenThat's a pretty basic thing don't you think?  How could THAT not work in a release version of KDE?16:50
ugawoden: try that16:50
ugawoden: no, it's just made more simple in the last version (dnd)16:50
ugathere should be a way in your version too16:50
wodenuga: I tried that it just adds the K menu.....I don't want that.  I want an actual application launcher.16:50
manishgenii: now what16:50
ugawoden: and sorry, but even if 4.0 was a release version, I'd not recommend anybody to run it16:50
ugawoden: just like I believe it was a silly idea to release kubuntu with kde 4.116:50
ugawhich was still half useable16:51
* phunyguy is listening to Everyday by Dave Matthews Band on Everyday [Amarok]16:51
karanhow do you format your pen drive16:51
wodenuga: So what should I do to fix my system?  Can I upgrade?16:51
ugawoden: I told you... right click and add widget... you sould have that option16:51
ugaeven on 4.116:51
ugaand htere's a widget for application runner16:51
neverendingowoden: what about right-clicking a menu entry and "add to panel"?16:51
geniimanish: You should clean up now your sources.list file so it does not complain about all the duplicate entries.16:51
wodenuga:  Yea, I don't see any widgets that do what I am talking about16:51
wodenuga:  There is the Application Launcher but that is just the K menu....I don't want the K menu.16:52
ugaah16:52
geniimanish: Then after that to try again:  sudo apt-get update                    then: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org                   once more16:52
neverendingowoden: open k-menu, select your app and right-click, select "add to panel". should work since 4.116:52
karanhow do you format your pen drive16:53
ugawoden: dragging to the desktop works?16:53
wodenneverendingo: yea that works thanks16:53
ugawoden: also, when dragging to the panel, make sure you drag it to an empty space16:53
manishgenii; how do i clean the sources list file16:53
uganot on top of the taskbar or similar16:53
manishi am not sure of which entries i need to remoce16:54
manishremove16:54
manishor deselect from the prefrences section16:54
rmitchelluser6: installing from livecd is fine, if you have your partitions in order, it shouldn't be a problem16:54
user6rmitchell: i got a problem ... installing from live CD detect a strange formatting situation16:55
geniimanish: OK, pastebin result of:  cat /etc/apt/sources.list                Then I will recommend what changes to make it workable16:56
user6rmitchell: now i have removed all16:56
user6no formatting16:56
user6and try to install from live CD16:56
rmitchelluser6: you should be able to create new partitions from the free space16:58
user6rmitchell: its strange .... because during installation hda1 was seen like hda16:58
user6rmitchell:16:58
user6i have done16:58
manishhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/77426/16:58
manishgenii:16:58
rmitchellhda refers to the entire drive, hda1 is a partition16:59
user6ext3 , extended and linux-swap16:59
user6extended and linux -flat from 1,5gb16:59
user6the rest for ext316:59
user6but during installation ...ext3 =hda1 was seen like hda17:00
user6hda2 like hd117:00
user6hda5 good17:00
user6so i have prefered to clear all17:00
user6no partition17:00
user6and now live CD seem to work17:00
user6seems17:01
rmitchellthe installer must read things a little differently from gparted.. strange17:01
rmitchelluser6: how's it coming/17:04
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manish_genii: did you see the paste cin17:05
manish_bin17:05
user6rm17:06
user6rmitchell: quite well17:06
vikram_hi17:06
rmitchelluser6: what step is it on/17:06
user6Files Coping17:07
rmitchellah, you should be all set then17:07
rmitchelluser6: enjoy your shiny new kubuntu17:08
manish_genii: did you get the URL for the paste bin17:09
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geniimanish: Work required me for a time. Back now and looking at pastebin17:10
user6i hope it runs17:11
user6on this aptop ... i got much problem to connect17:11
user6now i have remount two laptop in one17:11
user6piece by piece17:12
user6take together with schotch17:12
user6if it run17:12
user6then i'll add the screws17:12
user6:-)17:13
manishgenii: do did you find any thing that needs to be removed17:13
wodenHow do I change the settings for my touchpad?17:14
geniimanish:  Comment out for now with a # lines 55 through 6217:17
manishand how do i do that ... I dont know the command line tool for that17:17
manishgenii:17:17
geniimanish: So from Konsole:    sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list                     then put a # in front of each of those lines. When done, use ctrl-x to exit, choosing Yes to save the file and Enter to select same nae to save as17:18
geniimanish: Please do not keep putting only my name on one line by itself, it is annoying and unneccesary17:19
geniimanish: When you are finished with the edit and back to command line:  sudo apt-get update17:21
manishgenii: what next17:26
geniimanish: Did it finish the update without groaning now ?17:26
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manishit was updating without groaning earlier also17:27
manishthe only problem was it was not installing the ooo17:27
geniiYour paste earlier shows it complaining about problemmatic duplicate entries and that some lists could not be retrieved, etc. So it was NOT updating without groaning17:28
geniimanish: At any rate, try now the: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org17:28
manishnot working17:28
manishstill the same results17:28
manishunmet dependencies17:29
manishso any more arrows in your quiver17:29
geniimanish: Yes, one minute17:29
eagles0513875genii :) can i pm ya17:30
geniimanish: Please tell what line saying "Candidate" says from: apt-cache policy openoffice.org17:33
manishgenii:Candidate: 1:2.4.1-11ubuntu2.117:34
wodenSo how do I add a custom launcher to the panel?17:36
wodenIs kubuntu using the latest KDE 4.1.3?17:37
webaswhere to disable that little box that appears when i mouse over program on icons..in kmenu bottom line17:37
BluesKajwoden, yes , if you've been updating regularly , check konqueror/help/about kde17:41
webas:\17:41
wodenBluesKaj:  Is there any way to update kubunt to the beta 4.2?  is that even advisable?17:42
geniimanish: What says: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org | grep 2.4.1-1117:42
manishgenii: No such file or directory17:43
BluesKajwoden, i'd wait , 4.1.3 is still not 100% stable17:43
damian_hey hi hello :)17:44
|DS|hai17:44
BluesKajwoden, so 4.2 would be even less so17:44
damian_I'm from Poland :)17:44
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dymianlinux is good17:46
BluesKajyes it is dymian17:47
webaswhere to disable that little box that appears when i mouse over program on icons..in kmenu bottom line17:47
geniimanish: Try: sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade openoffice.org17:49
manishgenii: it is asking me to download the following packages samba-common smbclient winbind. What should i do?17:50
ThomasDwebas: right mouse click on panes > configure panel > apearance > tick off "enable icon mouseover effects"17:50
ThomasDpanel*17:51
mid5Hi, anyone knows a link or documentation about configuration tv card-usb preal-angel 400u on kubuntu17:51
mid5or some tv program that I can use17:51
geniimanish: That should be fine. It is trying to make the list of packages and the condition they are currently in on your box actually reflect their real conditions17:51
dymianwho are from poland?17:52
manishgenii: sorry i dont understand you17:52
dymianwho are from poland?17:53
geniimanish: Your computer has a list for itself of installed things. In the list is also whether the thing is installed, not installed, half-installed, sort-of-installed, and so on. Since it was made messy it does not now show true state of things. We are making it so that the list afterwards will be true17:54
manishok so how to do that17:55
geniimanish: I just gave you it17:55
dymianhow looked how many mb are downoad and upload?17:55
manishas of now i have allowed it to installed what ever it said17:55
manishok17:55
geniimanish: Try: sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade openoffice.org17:55
manishya i did that17:56
geniimanish: That was the one which should help clean it up17:56
manishk17:56
manishso what next17:56
manishafter installation of those 2 files is over17:56
alex_i cant install the restricted extras, i tried the sudo code for it and i tried in package manager but it wont work17:56
geniimanish: OK. So now please pastebin result:  apt-cache policy openoffice.org17:56
geniiWork requires me. Back in a few minutes17:57
gkffjcs_hey guys I need x11 help, I have an intel 82852/855GM integrated graphics card on my laptop, when i boot the computer all the graphic output goes to the external vga port, and completely misses the laptop display, I've tried configuring it using the kde settings thing, and I have looked on google, for this problem, the only report of this problem was on ubuntu 5.04 an supposedly this issue was cleared up when ubuntu switched to the17:57
gkffjcs_"intel" driver, but I'm having this problem anyway.17:57
manishthe download will require some time as i mentioned the connection is slow hence i wll paste bin it as soon as it is completed17:58
manishwill that be fine with you genii:17:58
dymianwhere is in network manager table how many MD wsa download and upload??17:59
dymian*MB17:59
daghenninghello. now my nfs-user-server doesn't work. I think some configuration files are missing. /etc/exports is missing. How to reinstall the config files?18:01
geniimanish: Thats fine, however long it takes. I am online tody for another 4 hours yet18:02
wodenwill kubuntu update to kde 1.4.3?18:03
JontheEchidnawoden: KDE 4.1.3 has been available since release day18:03
manishok18:03
manishthanks for all the support you are giving to me18:03
JontheEchidna(KDE 4.1.3's release day)18:03
manishgenii: thanks18:03
wodenJontheEchidna: Why does my kubuntu say 1.4.2?18:04
JontheEchidnahttp://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.318:04
woden4.1.2 I mean18:04
JontheEchidnabecause you haven't upgraded yet ;-)18:04
wodenHow do I upgrade?18:04
JontheEchidnasee the link18:04
wodenyea I'm doing it now thanks for the linky18:05
wodenIs it a big improvement?18:05
JontheEchidnaa few crash fixes here and there18:05
wodenBecause honestly, I really want to like KDE but at the moment I am finding difficulty using it18:06
JontheEchidna4.2.0 will be where the big improvements come in18:06
wodenBut I want to give it an honest chance to grow on me18:06
manishgenii: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/77462/18:11
geniimanish: Reading18:12
daghenninghello. now my nfs-user-server doesn't work. I think some configuration files are missing. /etc/exports is missing. How to reinstall the config files?18:13
geniimanish: OK, so again, the tired:  sudo apt-get install openoffice.org18:14
manishsame unmet dependiceis18:15
manishgenii: did you get my responce. The same old problem.. What do you say now18:17
geniimanish: Try specifying now exact version, with the -f for try to fix dependencies:   sudo apt-get install -f openoffice.org=2.4.1-11ubuntu2.118:18
manishgenii: E: Version '2.4.1-11ubuntu2.1' for 'openoffice.org' was not found18:19
geniiHm18:20
genii!info openoffice.org intrepid18:20
ubottuopenoffice.org (source: openoffice.org): OpenOffice.org Office suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.4.1-11ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 4 kB, installed size 44 kB18:20
geniimanish: sudo apt-get install -f openoffice.org=2.4.1-11ubuntu218:21
geniimanish: Is it progressing?18:28
krugerhi people , just onje question , i have isntalled ubuntu , and instaled non free drivers for my nvidia graphical card , and if i want to corect rightness or contrast or saturation is not working , what shood i do?18:29
manishgenii: E: Version '2.4.1-11ubuntu2.1' for 'openoffice.org' was not found18:30
krugeris not workning with envy, i tried allready , and nothing18:30
geniimanish: Remove the ".1" from the end as my last message shows18:30
manishgenii: now what18:30
geniimanish: eg: sudo apt-get install -f openoffice.org=2.4.1-11ubuntu2           <-- note no .1 as previous18:31
manishE: Version '2.4.1-11ubuntu2' for 'openoffice.org' was not found18:31
user6!windws18:31
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about windws18:31
user6!windows18:31
ubottuFor discussion on Microsoft Windows, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents18:32
manishgenii: did you see the op18:32
geniimanish: Yes.18:32
squid0hi. when I try to add widgets from the internet, it just shows 4 widgets, which are very useless to me.18:33
squid0(to the plasma desktop)18:33
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manishgenii: so now again the same old question "what next"18:33
manishgenii: I think this problem is the first of its kind you are facing and it is giving you a different learning experience ... Am i wrong18:34
geniimanish: I have dealt previously with problems of this sort. But yours seems to be giving more grief than normal18:35
manish:)18:35
wodensquid0: I saw the same thing18:36
manishgenii: so ne idea of what needs to be done next18:40
manishgenii: u thr???18:45
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geniimanish: I would suggest to download from http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/openoffice.org the version for your machine (32bit (i386) or 64bit (amd64)) and put it on your desktop. then:  sudo dpkg -i --force-breaks --force-depends ~/Desktop/filename.deb18:48
geniimanish: Yes, I am here. I am at work also researching. So not always snapping back with immediate replies.18:48
manishk sorry for disturbing you again and again next time i will bve more patient18:49
geniimanish: It's Ok. Just that unless you hear otherwise I am around and still working on the problem18:50
courtjesterg!kopete18:52
ubottuInstant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, YIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and, in KDE 3, IRC. See also !Pidgin18:52
courtjesterg!myspace18:52
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about myspace18:52
tkstkaAgain I need help in mounting my harddrive.. I dont seem to get it right.. "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdc1 /media/Waret2 -o defaults,umask=0" says wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error what do I do?18:55
tkstkaneed help18:55
kaminixHow do I get the GTK skinning menus back in kcontrol? I can't re-skin my GTK applications for some reason. :s18:56
mrksbrdtkstka: external hdd? is it formatted as ntfs or ext3?18:57
tkstkaext318:57
tkstkaI used gparter18:57
mrksbrdmain system hdd?18:58
tkstkano.. other one18:58
tkstkaI'm using it for download18:58
mrksbrddoes system see it @ all18:59
mrksbrdbrb18:59
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tkstkamrksbrd: well I see it.. yes19:01
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tkstkabut I cant use it19:01
TJanyone know a way to set the clock19:03
TJmy computer always changes time19:03
mrksbrdtkstka: what version of Kubuntu? 8.04 or 8.10?19:07
tkstka8.1019:07
huker8.10 is the best19:08
wodenTJ: Yea it's like HWCLOCK or something19:08
TJi like personally 8.0419:08
snowhogbye19:08
snowhogquit19:08
TJbecause I like KDE3.x better than 4 although im using 8.1019:08
hukerwhy u doht like it kde419:09
TJkde just isnt for me, i like the way 3.x is set up and stuff19:09
hukerok i see19:09
TJits a personal thing i like the K menu in 3 10 times better than 419:10
TJbrb19:10
hukerbrb19:10
tkstkaso can someone help me with the mount problem?19:11
manishgenii: the way you gave me failed. Would you like to see the op19:12
geniimanish: Sure19:12
manishgenii: so what do i do19:13
mrksbrdwhat is the error that u are getting19:13
tkstkamrksbrd: the error is19:13
tkstkawrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc1,19:13
tkstka       missing codepage or helper program, or other error19:13
tkstkathis is the problem when I try to mount19:13
tkstkasudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdc1 /media/Waret2 -o defaults,umask=019:14
geniitkstka: What does sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc      report as partition type for sdc1 ?19:14
alebocohi guys, i'm currently unable to load the bluetack lists into ktorrent... can any one help me sort it out?19:14
mrksbrdgenii: any ideas why he would be that error when trying to mount internal with ext3?19:14
manishgenii: give one more brillant idea so that i can proceed and work on it19:14
geniimanish: I'm currently out of ideas for your issue, short of reinstall19:15
manishreinstall what... i dont think you mean complete ubuntu... right???19:15
geniimrksbrd: First thing comes to mind is the sdc1 is not actually ext319:15
geniimailablenish: Yes. However, you said you had some install file on a machine that is not there right now. Maybe try that later when it is ava19:17
geniibah19:17
geniimanish: Yes. However, you said you had some install file on a machine that is not there right now. Maybe try that later when it is available19:17
manishk19:17
manishne wys thanks for such immence patience ... have a nice day or night where ever you are...19:18
anger_hi!19:18
anger_how is this guarddog supposed to work?19:18
anger_i tested it once, found that it's not very nice19:19
anger_and removed it19:19
geniimanish: Perhaps in future try to keep installations from package manager only, this will completely eliminate this sort of problem19:19
anger_but the problem is that it still keeps blockin all connections19:19
anger_any idea how to remove it completely?19:20
manishgenii: k will keep that in mind19:20
manishgenii: want to tell you something. I am installing openoffice.org core right now, it is getting installed. Is this and openoffice.org same19:21
geniimanish: openoffice.org is only what is called a "metapackage" . So it is not in itself something to install. Instead it says to computer that a bunch of other packages should be installed...the ones we listed before19:22
geniimanish:  openoffice.org-writer openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-impress openoffice.org-draw openoffice.org-math openoffice.org-base openoffice.org-report-builder-bin19:23
manishso then what is openoffice;org core19:23
genii!info openoffice.org-core19:24
ubottuopenoffice.org-core (source: openoffice.org): OpenOffice.org office suite architecture dependent files. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.4.1-11ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 25531 kB, installed size 105596 kB19:24
mrksbrdanger_: firestarter is alot easier19:24
anger_mrksbrd, yep, seems so19:24
geniimanish: Looks like it is one of the components told by openoffice.org package to install, along with the ones I just listed19:25
manishgenii: does that mean after in install oo,o core i would be able to install oo19:25
anger_but I must say that setting up a firewall in kubuntu is not very well planned at the moment imho19:25
geniimanish: You could try but I doubt it will progress, due to it's not wanting to install the components i just earlier listed again19:25
manishdont know, the system itself asked me to install it when i run the command sudo apt-get install -f19:26
anger_and do I have to configure something to make the firestarter firewall setting to be loaded during the bootup?19:27
manishthe download is like 16 percent complete and still progressing19:27
manishwill wait and see if it is done19:27
manishwhat say?19:27
geniimanish: The -f part tries to make the computer resolve and dependency issues, so it may yet go further than before19:27
anger_at least at the moment with removed guarddog still haunting in my pc I have to manually reload the configuration on every bootup19:27
manishok19:28
manishthanks for that info19:28
geniianger_:  Thats because underneath, the iptables configs got changed by guarddog19:28
anger_genii, personally I wouldnt have any problems configuring iptables manually, just don't know how I should do that without messing up the bootup scripts19:29
manishgenii: one last question. like abiword, is there any gnome app for making presentations and spreadsheets19:29
manishand how is abiword when compared with oo19:30
geniimanish: I do not use abiword so can give no comparison. But I find the openoffice Presentation works to my needs in this way19:31
manish!GTK19:32
ubottuGTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI19:32
geniianger_: You could flush the old rules or so and start again with them19:34
geniianger_: iptables-restore                  or so19:34
anger_genii, yes I flushed the rules but they appear back on every boot19:34
anger_/sbin/iptables -F19:35
wodenHow do you make it so that links open up in a new konq tab instead of a new konq window?19:36
alebocowhois aleboco19:39
geniianger_: After flushing, use: iptables-save19:39
alebocosorry19:39
anger_genii, does that save the settings over bootups?19:40
geniianger_: Yes19:40
geniianger_: There is a nice tutorial on iptables here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo19:41
geniitkstka: You previously formatted the sdc1 partition with ext3 filesystem?19:44
yodazis there a way to force small icon in every apps with kde4 ?19:45
tkstkagenii can you help me?19:46
tkstkaI have a seprate hard drive for 300g19:47
tkstkaand I cant get it to work19:47
geniitkstka: Possibly, or someone else may be able to, if you say here the exact problem.19:47
tkstkaI've formated it and now it's ext319:47
tkstkabut I cant seem to mount it19:47
geniitkstka: So you had dome something like: sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdc1        ?19:47
wodenHow do I turn off the startup and shutdown sounds?19:48
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tkstkagenii now it's doing something19:48
tkstkawriting inobe tables19:49
tkstkaor something like that19:49
tkstkadont know what that is19:49
mrksbrdhow did that pop up?19:51
sigp239How do I turn off the startup and shutdown sounds?19:51
tkstkagenii now that I did what you told me19:52
tkstkawhat next19:52
tkstkaI tried to mount it again19:52
tkstkabut the same problem19:52
mrksbrdyou didn't format it w/ext2 did u?19:55
tkstkaI did first19:55
tkstkabut then I formated it again19:55
tkstkadid I screw something up?19:55
tkstka:o19:55
mrksbrdnot as long as u redid in ext319:56
tkstkaok19:56
maikHow can i connect with bluetooth stick to my home cinema? home cinema is listed if i write hcitool scan but how to go on?19:56
tkstkawell now it should be19:56
tkstkait read19:56
tkstkas19:56
tkstkait is19:56
mrksbrdcan u save to it now?19:56
tkstkaI couldnt even open the harddrive19:57
tkstkaI dont even see it in storage media19:58
tkstkanow19:58
mrksbrddid u try to do a force mount with -f19:58
tkstkaI did20:00
mrksbrdtkstka: do sudo fdisk -l20:00
mrksbrdthen poste it in pastebin20:01
cojackhello20:01
cojacksome know where'll be kde 4.1.3 in repo?20:02
cojack4.1.2 have a lot of bugs ;/20:02
tkstkamrksbrd: http://pastebin.com/m6c5396c220:03
mrksbrdcojack: just run sudo apt-get install kde4.....should reload it20:03
cojackmrksbrd: thanks, but I got anwser from kde develop team about bugs in konqueror and kopete20:03
cojackthe say to upgrade it to 4.1.320:04
VistaUserHEY20:04
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Tm_Tcojack: enable "proposed" repository if you are in Intrepid (8.10)20:05
cojackI'll look20:06
joe_speaking of bugs, has anyone else had this problem with Kubuntu Intrepid? The default monitor refresh rate that kubuntu picks for my monitor is 75Hz, but it looks better at 85Hz. When I go to the display settings and change it to 85Hz, and then restart the computer, it is using 75Hz again. But as soon as I open the display settings panel, it automatically changes to 85Hz again. It says its using 85Hz, but it always starts at the default20:06
joe_setting of 75Hz. How do I get Kubuntu to always start up with the refresh rate that I've set in the display settings? That includes using the same settings for the KDM login screen.20:06
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cojackTm_T: you meen about "partners" and "backports" repo to unhash?20:08
Tm_Tcojack: no, proposed20:08
Tm_Tcojack: but backports will do too20:08
Tm_TIIRC20:08
mrksbrdtype fdisk /dev/sdc20:08
cojackI don't have any proposed in sources.list20:08
dwidmannhrm, anyone here know how I can tell cmake to look for libraries in someplace first? It's not finding the version of something that I want it to :\20:09
mrksbrdtkstka: still here20:11
cojackTm_T: can you give me some sources about you talk on pastebin?20:11
serenityis anyone packaging 4.2b1?20:12
tkstkayep20:12
tkstkawaiting for info20:12
serenitytkstka: who?20:12
Tm_Tcojack: nah, just enable backports, proposed is more for "testing" I believe20:12
tkstkamrksbrd:20:12
mrksbrdfdisk /dev/sdc20:12
cojackoke I'll do it!20:13
tkstkadid you get the link?20:13
mrksbrdyea20:13
tkstkait says now unable to opne20:13
cojackomg20:13
tkstkaopen20:13
VistaUserwhat games run on KDE4?20:13
cojack91 packages to update :D20:13
cojacknice one ;)20:14
geniitkstka: It shows you have an sdc but it does not show any partitions there20:14
cojackTm_T: thanks a lot!20:14
tkstkaya20:14
Tm_TVistaUser: all games that runs on Linux, I'd say (:)20:14
tkstkaso what do I do?20:15
cojackit's great! ;)20:15
VistaUserlol can u use a prog to run windpws games?20:15
Tm_T!wine | VistaUser20:15
ubottuVistaUser: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help20:15
Tm_T!games > VistaUser20:15
ubottuVistaUser, please see my private message20:15
mrksbrdk now once in that hdd run fdisk -n20:15
VistaUserhow i got to pm20:16
HappySmileManVistaUser: What IRC client you use, PMs usually open in a new tab20:16
VistaUseroo i got it:P20:16
antoranzHi, Guys!20:16
tkstkamrksbrd: -n doesnt work20:16
maple1fuck my probation officer20:16
HappySmileManYeah but keep in mind Wine isn't perfect, some games won't run at all, some will run badly, some will run fine :P20:16
antoranzIs there any reason why kate closes up randomlpy when I open files?20:16
tkstkait says there arent a command named -n20:17
antoranzmost of the times, I have no problem... they open correctly, but once in a while, It just crashes20:17
geniitkstka: I would recommend:    sudo fdisk /dev/sdc                         then now you are in the commandline to fdisk, So then N for a new partition. Choose primary type. Number of 1 is good here. After it makes the partition, choose T for type. Put there 83 as the type for it. Then W will exit with writing the new info. From here you can format it with: sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdc120:17
antoranzit's the third time just today20:17
antoranzoh... and when it happens, I kills KDE completely20:18
antoranzI get to the kdm login page20:18
mrksbrdhttp://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.3-Manual/ref-guide/s1-filesystem-ext3-create.html20:18
sigp239How do I disable my touchpad or change the setting for my touchpad?20:18
mrksbrdread that the steps r there20:18
tkstkagenii it gives me 2 choises extended or primary partition20:18
tkstkawhat do I chose20:18
geniitkstka: Primary20:19
mrksbrdty genii20:19
tkstkait asked me 1-4 and I gave it 1 now it says first cylinder 1-38913 default 120:20
tkstkawhat do I do next?20:20
geniitkstka: Hit enter20:20
tkstkaand now?20:20
* genii hands mrksbrd a coffee20:20
tkstkaCommand (m for help)20:20
geniitkstka: If it asks now where the end should be just hit enter again for the max size.20:21
tkstkaI did hit enters twise20:21
geniitkstka: OK so this is where you just made it. So look at what I Wrote20:21
mrksbrd"m" allows you to set partion size20:21
geniitkstka: EG:I would recommend:    sudo fdisk /dev/sdc                         then now you are in the commandline to fdisk, So then N for a new partition. Choose primary type. Number of 1 is good here. After it makes the partition, choose T for type. Put there 83 as the type for it. Then W will exit with writing the new info. From here you can format it with: sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdc120:21
geniitkstka: So we are at part of telling it what type20:21
tkstkaok20:22
geniimrksbrd: No, M is fdisk help20:22
geniitkstka: Did you set the type to 83 with success?20:23
tkstka:SAD I dont know where I am now :D:D20:23
DeizHrm.20:24
DeizAny power managers that give you time remaining instead of a percentage?20:24
tkstkaI typed 8320:24
tkstkait had loads of other options20:24
tkstkaso what now?20:24
geniitkstka: OK, now put W to exit with changes written20:25
mrksbrdsorry I can't read today....   :P20:26
tkstka:)20:27
tkstkathx20:27
tkstkaguys20:27
tkstkanow it seems to wor20:27
tkstkak20:27
geniitkstka: Back into $ now?20:27
tkstkaNow I need to get my ktorrent to work20:27
mrksbrdwhen in doubt....go the manual route.....   :p20:27
geniitkstka: Did you do the part of formatting it already now?20:28
noaXessgood evening..20:28
tkstkaI did20:28
geniitkstka:  OK, good20:28
geniitkstka:  It should be able to see and mount it auto now20:28
noaXessis there a simple way to uninstall packages with a special name.. egg. if i want uninstall all packages for openoffice.org?20:28
tkstkak20:28
tkstkathis is little ufo for me20:28
tkstka:D20:29
tkstkathis is second time I touched linux20:29
sigp239How do I disable my touchpad or change the setting for my touchpad?20:29
noaXesssigp239: what kubuntu version?20:29
sigp239noaXess: 8.1020:30
tkstkagenii one question there is some "lost+found" in my hard drive20:30
tkstka:o20:30
noaXessin the actual version there is a problem to disable the touchpad over keyboard.. you need to rmmod psmouse and modprobe it, if you need it20:30
tkstkait should be formated20:30
tkstkaand I cant seem to write anything20:30
sigp239noaXess:  It was working in Ubuntu with GNOME...20:31
noaXesssigp239: jep.... kde4 is the prob.. and there is no GUI for configuration the touchpad..20:31
geniitkstka: lost+found is stuff it found on the drive if it did a filecheck for instance and found stray files or data20:31
noaXesshave same prob.. but can live with it ;)20:31
dwidmannsigp239: a combination of xorg.conf options and touchfreeze is one way to do it.20:32
noaXesswait until kde4.2 in january, there will be a lot of changes20:32
geniitkstka: You need to make a folder on the drive which belongs to the user which will write there20:32
noaXesshey dwidmann.. was up?20:32
tkstkahmm I have problems to access my root20:32
tkstkaor at least su doesnt work20:32
noaXesssudo tkstka20:32
noaXess!sudo | tkstka20:32
ubottutkstka: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome), or !kdesudo (KDE)20:32
dwidmannnot too much noaXess ... just working on compiling myself a kde4.2b1 .... plenty of roadblocks in my way20:33
geniitkstka: su is discouraged, use sudo -i     instead20:33
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* R2-AFK2 is away: Gone away for now20:33
noaXessdwidmann: wow..20:33
noaXesshey. how can i remove all packages for OO.org? they are installed on a server.. and i don't need them.. :)20:33
noaXessthere20:33
tkstkawell why dont I have any right to make a forder in my new harddrive?20:34
noaXesstkstka: is it mounted as your user name or with sudo mount...?20:34
dwidmannnoaXess: sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org*20:35
tkstkasudo mount I guess20:35
noaXessdwidmann: some notes.. : Note, selecting openoffice.org-l10n-ku for regex 'openoffice.org*' and at the end E: Couldn't find package openoffice.org*20:35
noaXessstrange20:35
noaXesshave testet it also20:35
dwidmannnoaXess: bummer, that should have worked20:36
noaXessdwidmann: jep.. in 8.04 ;).. in 8.10 some features are GONE.. :( uaaa20:36
tkstkait says acces denied20:36
DeviNcan't figure how to fix this error. anyone have time to look at this pastebin? http://pastebin.com/m158cc92520:37
noaXessalso on notebook's.. sleep, standby mode, touchpad things, nvidia problem...20:37
tkstkawhen I try to make a forlder or make a file20:37
noaXessDeviN: we have time.. if not, we are not here :)20:37
DeviN=)20:37
dwidmannnoaXess: sudo apt-get remove$(dpkg --list | grep openoffice | cut -d ' ' -f 3 | tr '\n' ' ')20:37
noaXesstkstka: if you mount it with sudo.. then you need to mkdir with sudo: sudo mkdir folder20:37
noaXessDeviN: hm.. bad, wrong grub entry?20:38
tkstkawait.. So is that why Ktorrent doesnt work?20:39
noaXessdwidmann: good thing, but won't work ;(20:39
dwidmannnoaXess: why not?20:39
DeviNwell grub went awol after formatting my windows drive so i threw in a livecd to reinstall it and revived it but now im unable to boot into windows or linux20:39
noaXessdwidmann: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77495/20:39
noaXessDeviN: can you pastebin your grub config? :).... will not be simple20:40
dwidmannnoaXess: do "dpkg --list | grep opennoffice" ... are they all "rc" or "ii"?20:41
tequilhi guys, I need some help ....20:42
tequilI have just install postgres but I dont know the default password...20:42
tequilwhat is it?20:42
dwidmanntequil: I doubt there is one20:43
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tequilme too.... :S20:43
* serenity goes on strike for packages20:43
noaXessdwidmann: uno momento ;)20:44
noaXessdwidmann: rc20:44
noaXessha need just 8 seconds20:44
* tequil DOES ANYONE HAD TRIED TO INSTALL OPENEHR ?????????????????20:44
noaXessthats uno momento20:44
dwidmanntequil: I forget, but you might need to create a new user ... postgres ... look for a tutorial or something ... there are some good ones out there :)20:44
* noaXess thinks that tequil had too much tiquilla ;)20:44
tequilnoaXess: do you know?20:45
noaXesstequil: tiquilla? :)20:45
tequilno ... EHR20:46
noaXessopenehr.. no20:46
noaXesswhats that?20:46
tequilElectronic Health Record.....20:46
noaXesstequil: WOW.. ha.. for about two day.. i visited a customer.. and his wife had a program like this on windows.. a veryexpensive one..20:47
noaXesstequil: have you any link? information? wiki..20:48
noaXessdwidmann: now.. to my removing all oo.org packages.. dpkg --list | grep openoffice.. all ar rc's20:48
noaXesswhat that mean?20:48
tequilnoaXess: it 's open source20:48
tequilopenehr.net20:48
tequilI want to install it ... I follow the tutorial but it is too hard.............20:49
noaXesscan't get the site..20:49
dwidmannnoaXess: remove complete20:49
DeviNnoaXess meaning menu.list configuration?20:50
noaXessDeviN: just a momento20:50
noaXessjep20:51
tkstkagenii:20:51
tkstkasudo mkdir /media/Waret2/torrents/tor0/file_map/20:51
tkstkamkdir: cannot create directory `/media/Waret2/torrents/tor0/file_map/': No such file or directory20:51
federico_alguna uruguaya por ak20:51
tkstkaI cant make a directory20:51
tkstka:o20:52
noaXessdwidmann: should this command not show only installed packages? sudo apt-cache --names-only --installed search openoffice20:52
dwidmannnoaXess: if you want it to show installed only, run "dpkg --list | grep ^ii.*"20:52
noaXessaa20:53
noaXessaha20:53
Coggzwhy doesn't xsane open my device? it has the correct usb address 004:003,and the right driver, gt68xx20:53
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tkstkawell what is a good program for unzipping files?20:55
dwidmanntkstka: how about the program "unzip"20:56
Coggzwhy doesn't xsane open my device? it has the correct usb address 004:003,and the right driver, gt68xx20:57
crimsunsane permissions?20:58
eagles0513875what do i need to do in regards to wifi to authenticate against a radius server20:59
Coggzsays invalid argument20:59
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* rickus is back.21:03
unfhello21:08
unfim having problems installing amarok-kde4 (amarok 2)21:08
unfapt says its a problem with kdelibs521:09
dwidmannunf: pastebin the error21:09
eagles0513875dwidmann what would i need to authenticate wifi with radius server21:09
dwidmanneagles0513875: dunno, I'm wired.21:10
unfhttp://rafb.net/p/3T54rX64.html21:10
unfthe errors are in spanish21:10
unfbut i think you'll understand21:10
dwidmannunf: looks like it depends on kde 4.1.3, and you only have kde 4.1.2 installed21:11
unfive followed this instructions: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2-rc-121:11
tequilwhat means21:11
tequil"What is the httpd user"21:11
unfdo i need to add any other repo?21:12
eagles0513875!radius21:12
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about radius21:12
eagles0513875!info radius21:12
ubottuPackage radius does not exist in intrepid21:12
dwidmannunf: maybe ubuntu-backports21:12
eagles0513875any wifi users in here21:12
Coggzwhy i cant mount a drive(internal) because: "mount point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)21:12
dwidmannunf: erm, meant to say intrepid-backports21:12
Coggzwhat does it mean21:12
unfdwidmann, you're right... i thought i had added backports repositories but i didnt21:13
unfthanks a lot...21:13
dwidmannunf: you're welcome21:14
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dwidmannCoggz: sounds like it doesn't like the mountpoint you're trying to mount it on21:14
eagles0513875!wifi21:15
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs21:15
thiago_anybody there?21:18
dwidmann!anybody21:19
ubottuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?21:19
thiago_what is this used for? some sort of Ubuntu help live chat?21:19
Tm_Tthiago_: yes, Kubuntu21:19
thiago_interesting21:20
thiago_does anybody know how to net send a message from my Kubuntu desktop to a WinXP desktop on the same net as mine21:21
dwidmannthiago_: I'm pretty sure it can be done, but I forget how21:24
dwidmannIf I could remember what that type of message was called i could probably remember21:24
thiago_I tried it using sbmclient -M but it does not work as it states the winXP host name I provide cannot be resolved even though I can access the winXP host remotely thru dolphin21:25
dwidmannthiago_: try using the ip address instead that21:26
dwidmann**then21:26
bellaUh. Alright.21:26
bellaI'm having a problem with one of my seperate log in names21:26
bellawhen logging in on the other username, keyboard stops working correctly21:28
bellaIt takes one second for the keys to respond.21:28
* uga reads #ubuntu... one user cannot reach backlog due to length, another is lost due to fast scrolling, the channel is a mess with users not mentioning foo: target person, and 20 different tech topics going on at once =)21:28
dwidmannbella: go to system settings -> keyboard and change it ... it probably isn't right21:28
bellaAlright.21:29
bellaOn this username or the other?21:29
dwidmannbella: the other21:29
bellaAlright.21:29
bellaI'll see if that works.21:29
dwidmannuga: sounds like paradise21:30
ugadwidmann: if you love writing data parsers, sure21:31
avarecan speak Turkish?21:32
uga!tk |avare21:33
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about tk21:33
ugaurgh21:33
Tm_T!tr21:33
ubottuTurk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.21:33
dwidmannuga: I've written a simple, picky one, and I had fun with it, does that count?21:33
ugaah, tr, heh21:33
edi_99Hi guys, I have a slight problem. I tried to install php on my comp, and one suggested to install LAMP through tasksel. I did that and now I'm without my GUI. How to get back to my original settings?21:33
avarethank unottu21:34
ugadwidmann: sure. I had to write parsers a couple of times already (simple ones at least in theory) and both drove me nuts21:34
dwidmannedi_99: I guess that would depend just why the gui is gone. What happens when you type startxs21:34
edi_99nothing, it says that some files are missing21:35
dwidmannuga: I went in very, very, very test heavy ... so I didn't run into many problems :)21:35
jeff__previously asked for help with keyboard on other username21:35
ugashit, bella == jeff?21:36
edi_99dwidmann: nothing, it says that some files are missing21:36
jeff__yes21:36
Tm_Tuga: now now...21:36
ugajeff_: dang, we all thought it was a lady in trouble. Now nobody will help you out =)21:36
jeff__this is hell to type21:36
Tm_Tuga: no, not funny21:36
uga?21:37
Tm_Tjeff__: and no cursing either (;)21:37
eagles0513875any wifi experts in here21:37
Tm_Teagles0513875: don't ask to ask, just ask21:37
jeff__Alright21:37
ugaTm_T: lack sense of humour?21:37
Tm_Tuga: if you say so21:37
jeff__need clarification on previous comment21:38
edi_99dwidmann: I think I should just type tasksel and install Kubuntu desktop ?21:38
avarehow do i install opera on kubuntu 8.10 x6421:39
edi_99Hi guys, I have a slight problem. I tried to install php on my comp, and one suggested to install LAMP through tasksel. I did that and now I'm without my GUI. How to get back to my original settings?21:40
davy_ciao21:41
davy_avrei un problema di driver wifi chi mi puo aiutare?21:41
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eagles0513875!it | davy_21:42
Tm_T!it | davy_21:42
ubottudavy_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)21:42
eagles0513875Tm_T i win21:42
davy_!it21:42
eagles0513875Tm_T question what pkg would i need for wifi to authenticate against a radius server21:42
Tm_Teagles0513875: I have no idea (:)21:42
eagles0513875sob21:42
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eagles0513875night21:43
dwidmannedi_99: try "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"21:50
jeff__Hey douchebags21:52
jeff__I asked a question21:53
dwidmann!attitude | jeff__21:54
ubottujeff__: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines21:54
noaXesswhat service is broken, when my keyboard won't work? sometime it stops working and then i need to restart the kdm21:57
edi_99dwidmann: the only problem is that there is no internet connection on my comp... is there any good site that describes how to create a connection through terminal?21:57
dwidmannedi_99: wait, that confuses me, does it have an internet connection or not?21:58
noaXessby the way.. when my keyboard stops to work.. my mouse works normal.21:58
noaXessany idea?21:58
edi_99dwidmann: nope it does not have anything except the terminal line... i'm writing this form a different computer21:59
dwidmannedi_99: that wouldn't necessarily rule out it having an internet connection or not ...22:00
noaXessneed sleep..22:00
noaXessif someone has a hint for my question, please msg me private....22:00
edi_99dwidmann: well... it's connected (wired) to a working router but ie apt-update does not work22:00
noaXessbye and good night..22:01
dwidmannedi_99: try running "dhclient eth0"22:01
dwidmannnoaXess: try switching keyboard drivers22:02
dwidmannnoaXess: ie: if you're using kbd, try switching to evdev, or vice versa22:02
mschiffI guess its *the* FAQ of today: Are there KDE4.2beta1 packages for intrepid somewhere?22:02
edi_99dwidmann: that works thanks a bunch22:03
dwidmannmschiff: the neon kde-nightly packages are up-to-date as far as I've heard22:03
mschiffdwidmann: thx for the info... will try them in my test installation...22:04
edi_99dwidmann: now I'll try to install Kubuntu desktop through tasksel22:04
edi_99dwidmann: would that do any good?22:04
dwidmannedi_99: probably makes more sense to install it through apt22:05
edi_99dwidmann: too late :)but if this does not work i'll try through apt. Anyway, what's this tasksel all about?22:06
dwidmannedi_99: dunno, I've never used tasksel22:07
davide_ciao22:07
edi_99dwidmann: I'm looking through the documentation, it's kind of a GUI for apt-get... in a way22:08
edi_99how big is the kubuntu desktop if you want to dwnload it?22:10
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dwidmannedi_99: hard to say, depends how many dependencies you're missing22:13
dwidmannedi_99: could be a lot22:13
blip-hi all, what happens if i reinstall KDE from the package manager on kubunut 8.04 ?22:13
blip-i mean what happens to the settings do they get reset ?22:14
edi_99dwidmann: yeah, the installation mark is at 0% for about 10 min now...22:14
edi_99dwidmann: with 1mbps connection22:14
dwidmannedi_99: well, it fits on a cd. So in the worst case scenario it could be upwards of 700MB22:14
edi_99dwidmann: oh man.... :)22:15
e-head_Hey, are the Kubuntu repositories any different from the Ubuntu ones?22:18
Tm_Tnope22:19
e-head_Is there any significant difference between an Ubuntu installation with KDE installed and a Kubuntu installation?22:19
edi_99dwidmann: another question; do I have to delete LAMP or do I just enter sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?22:19
jussi01e-head_: apart from the fact you have gnome installed?22:19
Tm_Te-head_: no, if you install kubuntu-desktop metapackage, except you have GNOME there too22:19
e-head_gotcha.22:19
e-head_So, it's basically a matter of which desktop environment you like best, and think you want to use.22:20
Tm_Te-head_: aye22:20
e-head_I've been using rat poinson for the last 4 years, but I think I'm ready to install/upgrade to a new distro.22:20
e-head_I remember liking KDE best, so I suppose I'll go with Kubuntu.22:20
e-head_Of course, I'm sure they are pretty different after 4 years.22:21
P__anyone using yakuake with compiz ? i got some refresh problems22:21
dwidmannedi_99: just install22:21
edi_99dwidmann: apt works great... 9min left..22:22
enzo_5hi22:22
dwidmannI'll be back in a few, gonna try something22:22
enzo_5i have a problem, my cat has sleept on my keyboard, and now the keypad doesn't work (even if i activate the num lock), instead 4 moves mouse to the left, 6 to the right, etc.. how can i configure the normal way ?22:23
P__what is the benefit of using emerald with compiz ?22:23
administratormi e' permesso lanciare un help? sono nuovo di ubuntu e mi servirebbe assistenza per wifi..22:23
SlimeyPeteis that... italian?22:24
P__is it possible to disable the plasmoid stuff ? it seems to eat the resources22:24
SlimeyPete!italian22:24
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)22:24
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edi_99dwidmann: what's the version in the repos for kub desktop, .04 or 10?22:25
faikhi guys22:27
edi_99enzo_5: the cat should not sleep on a keyboard ;)22:27
enzo_5yes I know that now edi_99....22:27
enzo_5but she was so cute on my keyboard...22:27
SlimeyPetemight be worth taking your numlock key off and seeing if it's repairable22:28
dwidmannNope, still no dual head support in kde 4.2b1 ... guess I shall continue waiting :(22:29
enzo_5waouhhh, i've found ! gosh it was set in the settings, my cat must have typed a shortcut to configure such a stupid thing...22:29
enzo_5if you wish to know this shortcut, just ask my cat...22:29
enzo_5bye !22:30
faiki have nvidia 7600 graphic card when i activate it my screen resolution cant exceeds 800x600 when i disebling the card then i can set the screen resolution 1024x76822:31
faikwhat can i do? any solution?22:31
dwidmannfaik: try running "nvidia-xconfig"22:31
faikwhere is that application?22:32
edi_99Hey guys another question; when my comp is in screensaver mode,I cannot "wake" it up... how come?22:32
umanOFFTOPIC, sorry, just a quick question. Does basically everyone in the US have vacation today and tomorrow? or just today or what? Thanks22:33
dwidmannfaik: /usr/bin, if it's installed, and if it's not, install it.22:33
faikok22:33
dwidmannuman: well, most people had today off ... wouldn't really count on tomorrow though ... depends on the employers really?22:34
umanoh, i see. thanks ;)22:35
faiki found the file nvidia-xconfig i doubleclicked on it but dont runs im newbee22:36
dwidmannfaik: you need to run it in a shell, as root, sooooooo, open Konsole, then type in the command "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and see what happens22:37
faiktake a look please22:38
faikUsing X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".22:38
faikVALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.22:38
faik                  Device section "Configured Video Device" must have a Driver22:38
faik                  line.22:38
faikBacked up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'22:38
faikNew X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'22:38
dwidmannfaik: yeah, ignore that, it's fine22:38
dwidmannfaik: now save and close anything you're working on and restart x, and we'll see how things are working22:39
dwidmann(to restart x, hit ctrl+alt+bksp022:39
dwidmann)22:39
faikthen?22:39
dwidmannWe'll see when we get there, either it will be working fine after that or it won't be.22:40
dwidmannI'll be back in a minute22:41
faiknothing22:43
edi_99dwidmann: even after the installation .. first the comp boots into the terminal... and after startx it says there is no screens found and is giving up... any advice?22:44
dwidmannfaik: run nvidia-settings and see what it says22:44
faikthen i select the geforce 7 series but shows that nvidia riva tnt and screen resolution dont goes 1024x76822:44
dwidmannedi_99: xorg.conf problem maybe?22:44
dwidmannfaik: eh? There shouldn't be any selecting involved in this22:45
dwidmannfaik: which version of the nvidia driver do you have installed?22:45
faiki dont know22:46
faikwhre i can find the latest or stable version driver?22:46
dwidmannfaik: nvidia settings will tell you which version is installed, among other things22:47
dwidmannfaik: among other things that I'd like to know :022:47
faikhow ş can run this nvidia-settings?22:47
dwidmannfaik: easiest way would be to hit "alt + f2" then type it in, I guess22:48
edi_99dwidmann: the sys doesnt even find xorg22:49
dwidmannedi_99: eh? it doesn't?22:49
faikthe location or file could not be found22:49
dwidmannedi_99: if you installed kubuntu-desktop, then you definitely installed Xorg.22:49
faiki think i havent install it22:49
dwidmannfaik: then install it, the package name is "nvidia-settings"22:50
edi_99dwidmann: yes yes I've used find commands instead of locate.. i've got an Xorg.0.log and Xorg.0.old log22:51
faiknvidia x server settings ???22:51
faikis this right?22:51
dwidmannfaik: yeah, is that what it says in your menu? that's definitely it22:52
faikok i installed it22:53
dwidmannedi_99: find'll work if you use it right :)22:53
dwidmannfaik: okay, now run it and we'll start figuring some more things out22:54
edi_99dwidmann: so what should I do, I've got a new Xorg, old Xorg and two corresponding failsafe logs..22:55
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faik"you do not appear to be using the nvidia x driver. Please edit your x configuration file just run nvidia xconfig and restart the x server."22:56
dwidmannedi_99: less the /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and then search for error lines --- type in /\(EE\)22:56
DivineSpectrumkde 4.1 is sooo cool22:56
dwidmannfaik: well, that certainly explains some things.22:56
DivineSpectrumwow22:57
dwidmannfaik: open up konsole, and in it type "lscpi | grep VGA"22:57
dwidmannfaik; then copy the output here23:00
faikcommand not found23:00
dwidmanneh? try copying and pasting it ... you might have made a typo?23:00
faikbash: lscpi | grep VGA: command not found23:01
dwidmannfaik: I find it *EXTREMELY* odd that lspci isn't installed23:01
dwidmannfaik: install the package pciutils23:02
TheFuzzballdwidmann: it is, you spelt it wrong :p23:02
TheFuzzballlspci | grep VGA23:02
dwidmannTheFuzzball: ah, so I made the typo ...23:02
dwidmannmy hands hate me :(23:03
TheFuzzballhappens to the best of us :)23:03
faiki dont find this package23:03
dwidmannfaik: see above ... that is, [18:02] <TheFuzzball> lspci | grep VGA23:04
dwidmannfaik: I typod it23:04
faikok i got it23:04
faik01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G73 [GeForce 7600 GS] (rev a2)23:05
edi_99dwidmann so this is what it says: markers -- probed ... something is not implemented, then failed to load module fglrx and finally no drivers available  and fatal server error: no screens found23:05
dwidmannfaik: okay, and now this command in konsole: "dpkg --list | grep ^ii.*nvidia-glx-.*23:06
dwidmann(without the quote...)23:06
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faikthis? dpkg --list | grep ^ii.*nvidia-glx-.*23:06
dwidmannedi_99: try mv'ing your xorg.conf file so it can attempt to autodetect it23:07
dwidmannfaik: yes23:07
faikii  nvidia-glx-new                             169.12+2.6.24.14-21.51            NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver23:07
dwidmannfaik: hrm, which version of (k)ubuntu are you running?23:08
edi_99dwidmann: where to exactly?23:08
dwidmannedi_99: anywhere you please23:08
faik8.0423:08
dwidmannfaik: mmkay ... mind pastebinning the contents of the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log23:09
dwidmann!paste23:09
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)23:09
faikall of the contents?23:09
dwidmannfaik: yes please23:10
edi_99dwidmann: should I try to reboot?23:10
dwidmannedi_99: shouldn't be necessary, just startx after you move it23:10
faikok23:10
edi_99dwidmann: nope, still the same, failed to load module fglrx (module does not exist), no drivers available23:11
dwidmannedi_99: that's most frustrating, try removing xserver-xorg-video-fglrx23:12
faikThis is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org Foundation.23:12
faikIt is not supported in any way.23:12
faikBugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/.23:12
dwidmann!paste | faik23:13
ubottufaik: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)23:13
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faikhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/77550/23:15
faiksorry very much23:15
faiki didnt knew23:15
edi_99dwidmann: seems there is no such file23:16
dwidmannfaik: seems this is where it ran into trouble, now we need to find out why ... "(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)"23:17
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TJmy clock will not stay set... i did  a sudo hwclock --debug and  these are the results........23:17
dwidmannfaik: try running "sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-new && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx", then restarting X23:17
dwidmannedi_99: it's a package23:17
TJhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/77553/23:18
edi_99dwidmann: oh...my bad... should it be located in /var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver...?23:18
dwidmannedi_99: really, it's a package, when I said remove it I meant with apt :P23:19
TJanyone know?23:19
edi_99dwidmann: :) oh man... I'm sorry23:20
faiknothing is the same again23:20
dwidmannTJ: what does it get unset to?23:21
dwidmannTJ: and how often?23:21
TJdwidmann: every time i set it, its currently 6:26 pm and my clock has 1:2023:21
TJpm23:21
dwidmannfaik: run nvidia-settings and see if it still won't23:21
dwidmannTJ: strange ... you could set a cron job to fix the time when it does it maybe?23:22
dwidmannTJ: (not a fix but a nice bandaid, if that'll work)23:22
TJdwidmann:  how do i do that23:22
faikyou do not appear to be using the nvidia driver....23:22
edi_99dwidmann: couldn't find package23:22
dwidmannfaik: that's really strange seeing as you have it installed, and after running nvidia-xconfig it should be enabled.23:23
dwidmannTJ: well, type in sudo -s; export EDITOR=kate; crontab -e23:24
TJdwidmann: i just set it up in the settings to set time automatically.. imma see if this works23:25
dwidmannTJ: then you'll need a cron line for it ... the command will be something like "ntpdate north-america.pool.ntp.org"23:25
dwidmannTJ: you might want to use a different time server, I don't know23:26
edi_99dwidmann: should I try to autoremove xserver-xorg-video?23:26
dwidmannedi_99: umm, doesn't matter, that's just a metapackage23:27
edi_99dwidmann: and then?23:27
dwidmannedi_99: try to startx again23:28
dwidmannfaik: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?23:28
faikok23:28
edi_99dwidmann: everything is exactly the same...23:29
dwidmannedi_99: huh? how's that ... it can't possibly be trying to use fglrx after it having been completely removed23:29
faikdwidman: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77555/23:30
edi_99dwidmann: the output after the startx is exactly the same ...23:30
dwidmannedi_99: do a dpkg --list xserver-xorg-video-fglrx23:30
edi_99dwidmann: you know what..let's call it a night.. I'm so frustrated I cant't stand being behind a comp anymore..23:32
edi_99dwidmann: thanks for all your help23:32
dwidmannkay edi_99, night23:32
edi_99dwidmann: thanks again, night23:33
dwidmannfaik: well, now we have a pretty good idea of why you're getting the low res23:34
faikrealy?23:35
dwidmannfaik: hit alt+f2 and run "kdesudo kate"23:35
dwidmannfaik: then open /etc/X11/xorg.conf23:36
faiki didnt have install this23:36
dwidmannfaik: replace the contents with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/http://paste.ubuntu.com/77557/23:36
dwidmannfaik: eh? don't have what?23:37
faikkdesudo kate23:37
dwidmannfaik: you should. They're both installed by default.23:38
faiknope23:38
dwidmann... that's just plain weird.23:39
dwidmannfaik: open up Konsole, and type in "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"23:39
faikwhy installink kubuntu desktop? i have gnome and this desktop dind help us to solve my problem?23:42
dwidmannfaik: well, that explains some things ... we make certain assumptions when you're in #kubuntu you see23:43
dwidmannfaik: now that I know that ... run gksudo gedit instead23:44
faikok23:45
faikdwidmann: do you pastebin again xorg.conf?23:47
dwidmannfaik: and like I was saying earlier,  open the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and replace it's contents with http://paste.ubuntu.com/http://paste.ubuntu.com/77557/23:47
faikUbuntu Pastebin23:47
faikThe Paste you are looking for does not currently exist.23:47
faikdwidmann: do you pastebin again xorg.conf?23:47
dwidmannIt should exist ...23:48
dwidmannhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/1935823:49
dwidmannoh, wait, I see what was done now ... though I'm not quite sure how I did it a minute ago ....23:50
dwidmannthat url was all #$!@#$ up.23:50
faiki have paste and save it23:50
dwidmannfaik: okay, restart x again and we'll see how it looks23:51
dwidmannfaik:23:52
dwidmannfaik: erm, better yet, do a full reboot23:52
faikok23:53
tihomirhello, can anybody help me with getting dual-head with fglrx to work?23:57

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