[00:24] <jussi01> morning all
[00:29] <Myrtti> moin jussi01 
[00:30] <jussi01> Myrtti: !! what are you doing up still?
[00:30] <jussi01> its 2.30 am...
[00:30] <Myrtti> I had a nap from 1900 to 2200 by accident and I'm not sleepy
[00:30] <Myrtti> besides
[00:30] <Myrtti> it's only 1930 in Bogota
[00:31] <jussi01> lol
[00:32] <Myrtti> shutup.
[00:32] <Myrtti> also, see PM
[02:02] <genii> Hi all
[02:03]  * jussi01 waves and slides a large Finnish roast coffee towards genii
[02:03] <genii> jussi01: Yay!
[02:04] <genii> I didn't know the Finns had their own kind of coffee
[02:05] <jussi01> just roasted in a special way...
[02:05] <genii> Aaaah
[03:05] <genii> Sorry to anyone who's looking after #ubuntu , the guy was getting on my nerves
[03:06] <tritium> genii: what are you apologizing for?
[03:07] <mylogic> hello
[03:07] <mylogic> is anyone here?
[03:08] <genii> Yes
[03:08] <mylogic> Maybe I be forgiven of my sins?
[03:08] <mylogic> I have learned my lesson
[03:09] <genii> mylogic: The op which banned you must be the one to unban you, if they are here
[03:09] <mylogic> err may*
[03:09] <mylogic> hmm, I don't have logs on this machine of who it was
[03:09] <mylogic> can you tell me so I know?
[03:10] <genii> Let me look
[03:10] <genii> @btlogin
[03:11] <genii> mylogic: You have to talk to LjL
[03:12] <mylogic> ok
[03:12] <mylogic> thank you
[03:12] <genii> mylogic: For ban on #ubuntu-offtopic    ... there is a temp one from floodbot for flooding in #ubuntu
[03:13] <mylogic> wha?
[03:13] <genii> That one got removed already however
[03:13] <mylogic> hmm, dunno about that, ohs wells
[03:13] <mylogic> it seems as though I am the quite the deviant as of late
[03:13] <nalioth> mylogic: if you want to be sure, we can always reban you  :|
[03:13] <xplo> lol 
[03:13] <xplo> lame
[03:14] <xplo> notlogic should be your name
[03:15] <nalioth> xplo: can we help you?
[03:18] <mylogic> well, thank you for your help genii :)
[03:29]  * jussi01 walks back in...
[03:30] <jussi01> xplo: is there something you need?
[03:30] <nalioth> xplo: is there something we can help you with?
[03:30] <xplo> well 
[03:30] <xplo> i need $ 
[03:30] <xplo> lol 
[03:30] <jussi01> !idle | xplo
[03:30] <xplo> nah, i am just curious and new on feenode. 
[03:30] <xplo> ah, i didn't know. sorry 
[03:30] <xplo> c ya :) 
[03:31]  * jussi01 waves to nalioth
[03:31] <nalioth> no, it's only in the /topic
[03:31] <nalioth> hi jussi01 'sup?
[03:31] <tritium> Good evening.
[03:31] <nalioth> hola
[03:31] <jussi01> nalioth: not so much, Just chilling at my parents house
[03:32] <jussi01> heya tritium
[03:32] <nalioth> jussi01: planning a hearty thanksgiving?
[03:32] <PriceChild> jussi01: where are you this time? France?
[03:32] <jussi01> nalioth: err.... what is that?
[03:32] <jussi01> :P
[03:32] <nalioth> jussi01: US national holiday tomorrow
[03:32] <PriceChild> ooooh america?
[03:32] <jussi01> PriceChild: LOL... no still in australia
[03:32] <jussi01> /slap PriceChild
[03:32] <PriceChild> jussi01: why would you be planning thanksgiving in australia?
[03:33] <jussi01> PriceChild: read again...
[03:33] <tritium> jussi01: why not?  Are you ungrateful?  ;)
[03:33] <jussi01> tritium: I have thanksgiving everyday :D
[03:33] <tritium> heh :)
[03:34] <jussi01> I am going to my brothers place tonight though....
[03:34] <jussi01> :D
[04:01] <genii> I forgot Thanksgiving or such in the US was soon. We already had ours
[06:55] <Hobbsee> heads up on the mibbit idiot
[06:55] <Hobbsee> #ubuntu-meeting
[06:56] <Hobbsee> (in case he decides to start spamming anywhere else)
[06:58] <Hobbsee> new to IRC, my foot.
[06:58] <PriceChild> Hobbsee: I've got to run soon, but will stay on a few mins to see if he continues elsewhere.
[06:58] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: OK
[07:00] <PriceChild> Doesn't look like he's moving.
[07:00] <Hobbsee> not so far, at least
[07:00] <Hobbsee> either a very poor troll, or.....someone without much of a brain?
[07:01] <PriceChild> They've quit.
[07:03] <PriceChild> right, i'm off
[07:03] <PriceChild> have fun
[07:04] <Hobbsee> will do.  you too!
[07:24] <Myrtti> EXCITING!
[08:09] <Myrtti> [10:06] ~~~mars72 [gabrielesi@moz-D0D2D6F8.libero.it] has joined #firefox
[08:09] <Myrtti> [10:06] < mars72> ciao
[08:09] <Myrtti> [10:06] < mars72> !list
[08:09] <Myrtti> [10:06] ~~~mars72 was kicked from #firefox by firebot [You Suck. Go away.]
[08:09] <Myrtti> hmmm
[08:10] <Hobbsee> hah
[08:10] <Hobbsee> firebot's on the ball
[08:38] <PriceChild> Hobbsee: no sign of them since?
[08:38] <Hobbsee> [19:38] [Whois] mib_ydg6fb2d is online via irc.freenode.net (http://freenode.net/).
[08:39] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: they reconnected, but i've not seen anything in the channels i'm in
[08:39]  * Myrtti refreshes her inbox neurotically
[08:40] <PriceChild> Hobbsee: okies. I'm off to bed but will leave a note.
[08:41] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: OK.
[11:34] <Myrtti> !logs
[11:37] <Myrtti> I'm having an odd feeling something is going on at -ru again
[11:37] <bazhang> nah
[11:37] <Myrtti> *** ChanServ sets mode: +v polatov
 KukMan, ен линкс щас с графой врубит)
[11:37] <Myrtti> *** ChanServ sets mode: +v KukMan
[11:38] <Myrtti> that is a bit worrying
[11:39] <bazhang> if they try anything they'll be gone; KukMan knows this.
[11:47] <bazhang> taken care of
[11:47] <elkbuntu> * Engelus[work] (n=angel@engelus.datasvit.km.ua) has joined #ubuntu-women
 Добрый день
 Hello
[11:47] <bazhang> none are +v anymore
[11:47] <Myrtti> elkbuntu: that's exactly why I checked the logs
[11:47] <elkbuntu> that was about 15 mins ago
[11:48] <elkbuntu> ah
[11:48] <bazhang> they say that engelus is a woman
[11:48] <Myrtti> bazhang: I reserve the right to doubt
[11:49] <elkbuntu> yeah, i'll decide that when and if *she* asks for sex.
[11:49] <bazhang> turns out it is really pavel (a man)
[11:49] <Hobbsee> no reasons why lesbians can't ask for sex...
[11:49] <elkbuntu> i am trying to engage *her*

[11:49] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, except  lesbians dont act like teenage boys, in my experience.
[11:50] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: oh, sure.  :)
[11:50] <Tm_T> indeed
[11:50]  * elkbuntu baits a bit.
[11:50] <Tm_T> haha
[11:51] <jussi01> now now.... ops trolling?
[11:51] <elkbuntu> not doing so is only delaying the inevitable.
[11:51] <Tm_T> jussi01: no
[11:52] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: and IMO that isn't even trolling, just asking
[11:52] <elkbuntu> jussi01, not quite.
[11:52] <Hobbsee> it's looking a little suss though, tbh.
[11:52] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, take a moment to define trolling.
[11:52] <Myrtti> bazhang: the realname is quite nice ;-)
[11:53] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: oh, but it's flexible defination! (;)
[11:53] <bazhang> Myrtti, he has been kb'd
[11:53] <Myrtti> at -ru?
[11:53] <elkbuntu> bazhang, who has been?
[11:53] <bazhang> engelus
[11:54] <elkbuntu> for what?
[11:54] <bazhang> they have no reason to be in there.
[11:54] <Myrtti> http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/2008/11/27/%23ubuntu-ru.html
[11:54] <bazhang> especially after the troubles of late.
[11:57] <Myrtti> er
[11:57] <Myrtti> right.
[11:57] <elkbuntu> * Received a CTCP VERSION from Engelus[work]
[11:57] <elkbuntu> hook, line....
[11:57] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: you have same answer I do?
[12:03] <bazhang> rustam, #ubuntu-irc
[12:13] <elkbuntu> bazhang, right, so this is the definition of 'not trying anything'?
[12:14] <bazhang> elkbuntu, what?
[12:14] <bazhang> I am trying to resolve things right now.
[12:14] <elkbuntu> yeah, i know you are. i also know that they're trying to be annoying, and succeeding.
[12:15] <bazhang> well apart from k-lining all of -ru seems that some communication needs to be made with them.
[12:16] <bazhang> those that dont/refuse to get it know what happens (eg zloy)
[12:16] <ikonia> ubuntu-irc in #ubuntu, all -ru address too
[12:16] <ikonia> seems to be a few -ru joins in the last minute
[12:27] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[12:27] <Ursinha> hi Myrtti 
[12:27] <Myrtti> Tm_T: thank you
[12:27] <Ursinha> how are you?
[12:28] <Myrtti> hello Ursinha 
[12:28] <Tm_T> Myrtti: my pleasure
[12:28] <Myrtti> trying to work, IRC just is too big distraction...
[12:28] <Tm_T> Myrtti: then hide your irc screens for a moment then (;)
[12:28] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, leave it to others then :)
[12:28] <Myrtti> Tm_T: was just about to
[12:28]  * Tm_T hugggles Myrtti 
[12:29] <Myrtti> I just realized I have no intelligent input left at -women
[12:29] <Myrtti> so I might as well take few steps back and leave it to those with better ideas
[12:29] <Tm_T> Myrtti: oh, please don't
[12:29] <Myrtti> Tm_T: I mean with dmay
[12:30] <Tm_T> I know, but don't leave it with me alone (;)
[12:30] <Tm_T> for all day atleast
[12:32] <elkbuntu> bazhang, where does dmay fit into things?
[12:32] <bazhang> elkbuntu, which channel is he is now
[12:32] <bazhang> is he in
[12:32] <Tm_T> -w
[12:32] <elkbuntu> -women
[12:33] <elkbuntu> trying to maintain he's there to be interesting and say smart things
[12:33] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: if he says smart enough, he will have a reward (:
[12:33] <elkbuntu> (he actually meant interested)
[12:33] <bazhang> you wish me to join that channel too?
[12:33]  * jussi01 waves to ikonia
[12:34] <elkbuntu> bazhang, no, they might react
[12:34] <ikonia> jussi01: hey
[12:34] <Tm_T> jussi01: hi, where are you going now?
[12:34] <jussi01> Tm_T: going? or am i?
[12:34]  * Myrtti cuts the chase
[12:34] <elkbuntu> jussi01, you the other side of the rock now?
[12:34] <Tm_T> jussi01: both (:)
[12:35] <bazhang> elkbuntu, has he misbehaved yet? or just lurking
[12:35]  * elkbuntu grins at Myrtti
[12:35]  * Myrtti chuckles
[12:35] <jussi01> elkbuntu: still in geelong
[12:35] <elkbuntu> bazhang, just lurking. it's hard to be comfortable with that, given everything
[12:35] <Myrtti> bazhang: I just stopped acting nice and went straight to the point
[12:35] <Myrtti> [14:34] < Myrtti> dmay: so how's the issue of female participation in open source,  linux and ubuntu in russia?
[12:35] <Myrtti> [14:34] < Myrtti> seeing the behaviour of the russian IRCers I'm not happy at all
[12:36] <Myrtti> :-D
[12:36] <Tm_T> good, good ];=
[12:36] <Seeker`> lo
[12:36] <Myrtti> next one will be "so what have you been doing to promote female participation?"
[12:37] <Myrtti> and the one after that "have you got any thoughts about what you could do?"
[12:37] <Myrtti> fairly evil, I know.
[12:37] <bazhang> not really
[12:38] <bazhang> doubt he can understand some of that though.
[12:38] <ikonia> why mess around with this ?
[12:38] <Myrtti> me too
[12:38] <ikonia> just get a russian speaker to explain the behaviour is not acceptable
[12:38] <bazhang> indeed
[12:38] <ikonia> then ban if they carry on
[12:38] <ikonia> stop disscussing it and make it clear in native language
[12:38] <bazhang> I have explained
[12:38] <Myrtti> ikonia: then how would I explain PriceChild or others there
[12:38] <Myrtti> we do allow men on the channel
[12:38] <ikonia> there is nothing to exaplin ?
[12:38] <ikonia> it's not a women only channel
[12:38] <bazhang> they know english, and I have used russian as well with the op in -ru
[12:39] <ikonia> bazhang: right, so it's sorted, they mess around, remove them, end of discussion
[12:39] <ikonia> they have been clearly warned ?
[12:39] <bazhang> ikonia, yep
[12:39] <ikonia> done deal
[12:39] <Tm_T> ikonia: and do they mess around this time?
[12:39] <Myrtti> ikonia: sure there is, if it's not women only channel, how do I explain why we are being hostile towards him
[12:39] <bazhang> already one today
[12:39] <ikonia> Myrtti: his behaviour ?
[12:39] <Tm_T> Myrtti: indeed, too early acting might hurt
[12:40] <Myrtti> ikonia: so far he hasn't behaved badly
[12:40] <ikonia> so ignore him, if he's not done anything wrong, whats the issue with him being in the channe l?
[12:40] <Tm_T> ikonia: "the zoo" effect
[12:40] <Myrtti> because he freaks me out
[12:40] <ikonia> in what way does he freak you out ?
[12:41] <ikonia> has he done something ?
[12:41] <elkbuntu> ikonia, the fact that every other -ru has asked for sex or excused asking for sex
[12:41] <Tm_T> ikonia: he came to "observe"
[12:41] <Myrtti> every male on that channel without a clear purpose or known reason to be there freaks me out
[12:41] <Tm_T> Myrtti: men, I know
[12:41] <bazhang> then kick him out
[12:41] <ikonia> elkbuntu: that point I take, so as soon as that happens they are gone
[12:41] <ikonia> but while they are not asking for sex or anything like that - I don't see the issue, 
[12:42] <Tm_T> ikonia: no harm done asking their meanings, roight?
[12:42] <ikonia> there are going to be valid russian users with intent, not syaing he's one
[12:42] <ikonia> Tm_T: asking their meanings ?
[12:42] <ikonia> who's meanings
[12:42] <ikonia> (apologies I'm only picking up the tail end)
[12:42] <bazhang> they have no reason to be there.
[12:42] <Tm_T> ikonia: the ones that makes some of us uncomfortable
[12:43] <Tm_T> bazhang: we need to find out
[12:43] <bazhang> I disagree
[12:43] <Tm_T> bazhang: we cannot say that rightaway, it's prejustice
[12:43] <Myrtti> ikonia: there has been females on the channel that feel timidated by presence of men who don't have clear purpose to be there. If he is there for a valid reason, then I don't have anything against him being there
[12:43] <bazhang> 100% so far have been with bad intent
[12:43] <Myrtti> I'd just like to know his valid reason soon
[12:43] <ikonia> Myrtti: define valid reason
[12:43] <elkbuntu> ikonia, the real one, not the one he says.
[12:43] <ikonia> watchign the channel, seeing how women find open source projects, see what women are involved in open source projects ?/?
[12:43] <ikonia> where do you draw the line
[12:44] <ikonia> but you can't act until he shows the real one
[12:44] <ikonia> just has to be a case of sit it out
[12:45] <ikonia> I'm sure if normal channel activities carry on ignoring him, a real purpose will appear if there is one
[12:45] <Myrtti> ikonia: all I want is some kind of active participation on the channel topics, without ctcping or pm'ing people without their permission, without making "funny" sexist jokes
[12:45] <ikonia> Myrtti: if he does any of the above remove him
[12:45] <ikonia> if he has pervious form, ask him to leave ?
[12:46] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, we'd like that to happen while one of us is around, not one of the more fragile girls
[12:46] <Myrtti> I wish there was a way to switch the sides on meld
[12:46] <ikonia> if he has neither just carry on ignoring him, and I'm sure he'll show his intent
[12:46] <Myrtti> elkbuntu: exactly
[12:46] <Myrtti> I've done a police enquiry about a harasser just to get rid of him.
[12:47] <Myrtti> I have no problems with doing that
[12:47] <ikonia> whoaaaa
[12:47] <Myrtti> I've had my share of dimwits and idiots, and I know how to handle them
[12:47] <ikonia> this guy hasn't done anything wrong yet
[12:47] <bazhang> he has no reason to be there.
[12:47] <Tm_T> ikonia: we know (:)
[12:47] <elkbuntu> ikonia, one of the girls there was quite upset by slamFIST's presence, purely based on the name as it made her scared.
[12:47] <Myrtti> ikonia: yes, we know
[12:47] <ikonia> elkbuntu: thats something she'll have to deal with
[12:47] <ikonia> elkbuntu: sorry to be harsh on that
[12:48] <ikonia> elkbuntu: there are bands in the charts with worst nicks
[12:48] <ikonia> names I mean
[12:48] <elkbuntu> ikonia, he then acted an idiot so got removed.
[12:48] <ikonia> thats fair enough
[12:48] <elkbuntu> ikonia, an intimidating name however, is not conducive to the environment u-w is there to provide.
[12:49] <Myrtti> I'd rather know sooner than later and preferably myself than by proxy that someone is harassing people there
[12:49] <Myrtti> and get rid of them
[12:49] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, i have to go to bed. i dont think he's going to do anything stupid right away.
[12:49] <ikonia> Myrtti: but it sounds like your baiting him
[12:50] <Myrtti> elkbuntu: right
[12:50] <elkbuntu> ikonia, no, we're being outright direct.
[12:50] <Myrtti> ikonia: if it was a bait, it was fair and direct question, justified by recent events.
[12:50] <ikonia> I jsut can't see the problem other than a -ru address
[12:50] <Myrtti> right now we're jumping on EVERY new person.
[12:50] <ikonia> why ?
[12:50] <ikonia> close the channel to invite only
[12:51] <ikonia> if thats an issue
[12:51] <Tm_T> ikonia: that's not good either (:)
[12:51] <Myrtti> that wouldn't serve the purpose either, would it
[12:51] <ikonia> Tm_T: I know, but this sounds silly
[12:51] <elkbuntu> right, so girls can go there to get introduced to ubuntu by already being involved in ubuntu and being able to ask?
[12:51] <elkbuntu> riiiiight.
[12:51] <Tm_T> ikonia: if we do this "jumping on" well, all newcomers could be recruited for good purpose
[12:51] <Myrtti> and it's not totally new, this behaviour
[12:52] <ikonia> maybe I am missunderstanding the phrase "jumping on"
[12:52] <Myrtti> new faces are usually greeted in some way
[12:52] <Myrtti> right now we're just a bit more cautious
[12:52] <ikonia> about what ?
[12:52] <Myrtti> about their purposes.
[12:52] <ikonia> what have they said their purpose is ?
[12:53] <ikonia> or "his" purpose is
[12:54] <Myrtti> currently, to observe and learn. which I can accept for now.
[12:54] <ikonia> great
[12:54] <elkbuntu> ikonia, the reason these .ru are joining -women is because trolls in -ru have been joining the channel to be counterproductive... all because a year ago i joined -ru to ask them to stop trolling ##windows and they /whois'd me and decided it would be great fun to go there and ask inappropriate things. when zloy posted goatse in -ot last week, this flared up again.
[12:54] <bazhang> am chatting with dmay now
[12:55] <Myrtti> hopefully he proves to be someone worthy of trust
[12:55] <bazhang> that was actually in #ubuntu (the gross picture)
[12:55] <elkbuntu> i am yet to ever see a -ru in -women who hasnt been there to be a dick, or defend dicks.
[12:55] <ikonia> elkbuntu: yes, that part I'm aware of and understand caution
[12:56] <ikonia> elkbuntu: and I can understand caution
[12:56] <elkbuntu> bazhang, it was in both iirc
[12:56]  * Myrtti backs and goes back to work
[12:57] <elkbuntu> ikonia, it seems we can give him the benefit of doubt for now, so i'm going to bed
[12:59] <ikonia> elkbuntu: I agree it will probably turn out to be a problem user, I've seen the behaviour of the -ru based guys recently, hence why I called it out in #ubuntu while you where talking about this
[12:59] <ikonia> elkbuntu: that said, grilling him just gives them attention and they will never tell the truth about their intention
[13:00] <ikonia> rarley will someone respond to "why are you here" with "to troll the sexy ladies for their phone numbers"
[13:00] <elkbuntu> ikonia, actually, that's how they *have* been responding
[13:00] <ikonia> oh really
[13:00] <elkbuntu> seriously.
[13:00] <ikonia> dead easy then +b as response comes in
[13:00] <ikonia> I'm shocked that is their response
[13:00] <elkbuntu> yes. that's why we asked, then gauged opinion.
[13:01] <Myrtti> "Hawt chix pls msn me"
[13:01] <ikonia> elkbuntu: now I have an understanding
[13:01] <bazhang> its worse actually
[13:01] <bazhang> then they come in here and laugh about it (as well as in -ru)
[13:01] <Myrtti> I don't want to know how they refer to -women in -ru
[13:02] <Myrtti> I'd probably want to burn the whole channel in flames
[13:02] <ikonia> Myrtti: well bazhang is watching -ru and seems to be making headway
[13:02] <elkbuntu> you dont already?
[13:02] <elkbuntu> and we are forever grateful
[13:03] <Myrtti> elkbuntu: I'm trying not to give my prejudices take over
[13:03] <ikonia> getting a grip on -ru is a key thing, and it's something I believe is long due
[13:03] <bazhang> they are not all bad.
[13:03] <bazhang> some really care about ubuntu
[13:03] <ikonia> bazhang: exactly, 
[13:04] <ikonia> one of the reasons I intially wasn't getting/comfortable with what I was reading as grilling, but now understand what is meant
[13:04] <bazhang> there are about 5/6 that are ill-intentioned, from what I have been able to decipher
[13:04] <elkbuntu> unfortunately, ill-intentions are contagious
[13:09] <bazhang> dmay says that those in -women have no trouble with him being there
[13:09] <bazhang> is that so?
[13:10] <elkbuntu> providing he behaves. he took the time to read our wiki.
[13:14] <bazhang> k
[13:15] <elkbuntu> he earned the benefit of the doubt, he now has to live up to it ;)
[13:56] <LjL> christel, ping. #freenode
[13:58] <christel> thank you lj
[13:58] <christel> ljl*
[13:58] <bazhang> three times in the last five minutes or so (zloy)
[13:58] <LjL> he could at least change his nick or something...
[14:04] <LjL> !kompozer
[14:04] <LjL> !info kompozer intrepid
[14:05] <LjL> !no kompozer is a WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project. It is available in !Universe on !Gutsy and later releases.
[14:06] <LjL> edgy is eol, feisty is eol, if dapper is still pending, it'll probably pend forever
[14:13] <Ursinha> I didn't know nvu is dead
[14:13] <Ursinha> was
[14:18] <Myrtti> uh-oh.
[14:18] <Myrtti> I did a nerd test.
[14:18] <Myrtti> I scored 99%
[14:23] <Ursinha> no way
[14:23] <Ursinha> congrats :)
[14:28] <genii> @login
[14:30] <LjL> wow.
[14:30] <bazhang> truly prescient ikonia 
[14:31] <bazhang> 'that panarchy looks like trouble'
[14:31] <LjL> that wasn't hard to tell, it's the first person to have been auto-marked by the floodbots...
[14:31] <LjL> still, wow.
[14:31] <bazhang> ouch
[14:32] <bazhang> * Panarchy has quit (K-lined)
[14:32] <LjL> yeah that's what my wow is about
[14:32] <bazhang> just wanted to be sure ikonia saw that
[14:32] <LjL> he didn't look abusive, just clueless. but the k-line shows he probably was feigning well.
[14:32] <LjL> well, cluelessly abusive
[14:33] <bazhang> hehe
[14:33] <bazhang> and on about ten latte
[14:33] <Myrtti> eh.
[14:33] <Myrtti> http://myrtti.fi/temp/nerd01.png
[14:33] <Myrtti> right.
[14:34] <LjL> although i'm wondering whether the ####'s triggered the k-line...
[14:34]  * Myrtti feels like an overachiever
[14:38] <bazhang> cybertinus
[14:39] <bazhang> * [Cybertinus] #archlinux #ubuntu #msiwind #berkano #gentoo-nl 
[14:40] <Myrtti> uh-oh
[14:41] <bazhang> now in -ot
[15:08] <LjL> administrator and macbrain in #ubuntu
[15:52] <Tm_T> micro: hi, how can we help you?
[15:52] <micro> i am Russia
[15:53] <LjL> wow, i'd love to be a country too
[15:56] <micro> I ban on the channel ubuntu-ru , Who can unban ?
[15:57] <LjL> the #ubuntu-ru operators
[15:57] <LjL>  /cs access #ubuntu-ru list
[16:02] <bazhang> micro, #ubuntu-irc
[16:03] <micro> ok
[16:03] <bazhang> micro, please part here
[16:17] <bazhang> micro, 	Пожалуйста, оставьте этот канал
[16:17] <micro> ok
[16:26]  * erUSUL sorry for the first bogus edit request :|
[16:37] <ikonia> bazhang: what was it you wanted me to see ?
[16:38] <bazhang> panarchy was k-lined ikonia 
[16:38] <ikonia> oh, ha ha
[16:38] <ikonia> didn't expect that
[16:38] <bazhang> you called it
[16:38] <ikonia> still, not surprised
[16:38] <ikonia> bazhang: when ?
[16:38] <bazhang> 'I expect that panarchy will be trouble'
[16:38] <bazhang> or words to that effect
[16:38] <ikonia> ah
[16:38] <ikonia> I don't remember
[16:39] <ikonia> your clearly more alert than me at the moment
[16:39] <ikonia> I note you've been really ontop of the -ru house keeping
[16:39] <ikonia> (just starting to read what's been going on today)
[16:41] <bazhang> IRSeekBot has quit (K-lined)
[16:41] <ikonia> really.....
[16:41] <ikonia> thats interesting
[16:42] <ikonia> I wonder what they did to cause that
[16:47] <ikonia> z10y ?
[16:47] <ikonia> in  #ubuntu
[16:47] <ikonia> same guy
[16:48] <bazhang> nice catch
[16:48] <bazhang> he was just in #freenode
[16:48]  * genii sips
[16:49]  * Daviey IAX2's
[16:50] <ikonia> Daviey:  ?
[16:58] <genii> ikonia: It's Asterisk Interchage protocol, as SIP is a protocol... obscure joke :)
[17:09] <ikonia> genii: went over my head
[17:10] <genii> ikonia: Basically two VOIP systems :)
[17:43] <LjjjL> !ftp
[17:43] <LjjjL> !no ftp is <reply> Nautilus, gFTP,  FileZilla (for !GNOME) - Konqueror, Kasablanca, KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[17:51] <bazhang> @bansearch notadj
[18:12] <eagles0513875> hey guys i would like to talk bout getting un banned
[18:13] <eagles0513875> in motu and devel
[18:14] <PriceChild> eagles0513875: i'll leave a message with an op there to get in touch with you.
[18:15] <eagles0513875> ok PriceChild
[18:15] <eagles0513875> ty
[18:16] <PriceChild> eagles0513875: they'll get back to you asap, anything else we can help with?
[18:16] <eagles0513875> nope thats it 
[18:16] <eagles0513875> i shall leave
[19:04] <LjL> ikonia: see, here's an example of someone who's apparently banned in a couple of our channels, yet is founder of a loco channel...
[19:04] <Tm_T> interesting
[19:04] <ikonia> who ?
[19:05] <LjL> ikonia: the fellow above
[19:05] <ikonia> eagles ?
[19:05] <LjL> yes
[19:05] <ikonia> that unacceptable
[19:05] <ikonia> he's a known problem, in the same way the guy yeserday was
[19:06] <ikonia> what loco is he the "owner" of
[19:06] <LjL> ikonia: well, he's a member of the Maltese team, and it would seem that the team leader is ok with his being channel founder. what does one do?
[19:06] <LjL> he's not the owner of the loco, just of the channel
[19:07] <LjL> there was actually another fellow yesterday who had created #*k*ubuntu-mt
[19:07] <LjL> like one maltese channel isn't enough
[19:07] <LjL> and i told them to use #ubuntu-mt instead
[19:07] <ikonia> my personal opinon would be to expalin to the found that he is not representing ubuntu well and it's not appropriate for him to guide users when he can't interace himself
[19:07] <ikonia> but thats just me
[19:13] <Flannel> ubottu: tell Trooper2008 about coc
[19:22] <Flannel> ubottu: tell nintendork|afk about afk
[19:27] <Flannel> mneptok: Before he came to #u, he was causing a lot of ruckus in my LoCo channel.  racism, etc
[19:27] <mneptok> does anyone know where i could get a ski mask, shotgun, and a guide to Girl Scout camps? BTW, i'm not creepy.
[19:32] <Flannel> Hmmm.  Now he's messaging me:  he "hate usa uk" but he'll be nice.  Also "racism might be ok for usa"
[19:32] <ikonia> Flannel: remove him
[19:33] <ikonia> there is no need to informyou he hates the usa / uk
[19:33] <Flannel> heh
[19:33] <Myrtti> who where
[19:35] <Flannel> Myrtti: Trooper2008 in #u
[19:35] <Flannel> well, in a query
[19:50] <genii> Someone for #u  :   [14:47:52] <phantomcircuit> WHY DOES INDIA SUCK SO MUCH COCK?
[19:50] <genii> Damn netsplit
[19:51] <ikonia> genii: done
[20:17] <LjL> #ubuntu-bots really shows how stupid people can be
[20:17] <Myrtti> I'm feeling kinda acidic... perhaps I should have something sweet
[20:18]  * LjL covers Myrtti's keyboard with honey
[20:18] <LjL> don't thank me
[20:18] <LjL> want the DVD drive done too?
[20:20] <Myrtti> no thanks
 you know that c**b-ubuntu  has a built in translator: just @translate spanish to english phrase to translate <-- because the topic was about spanish. i wonder if i should mention what topic of discussion i witnessed there the other day...
[21:07] <LjL> elkbuntu: ¿que has visto? ¡me gustaria muchisimo saberlo!
[21:09] <LjL> also, next time "forcumang" doesn't know how to (not) use Enter, teach him the hard way... floodbot has marked him twice
[21:10] <ikonia> #ubuntu has a translator, it's called ljl and jpds
[21:10] <ikonia> actually there are a few really good language guys
[21:35] <Myrtti> I feel so strained
[21:36]  * Tm_T huggles Myrtti 
[21:36] <mneptok> i feel julienned and sauteed.
[21:36] <Myrtti> that would be lovely
[21:37] <Myrtti> I just feel super anxious for no obvious reason
[21:43] <mneptok> Myrtti: i just landed in Helsinki. i'll be at your place in 30 minutes.
[21:43] <Myrtti> a-ha
[21:43] <Myrtti> speedy man
[22:08] <Tm_T> indeed
[22:09] <Tm_T> Myrtti: 2345.05 -!- thiago_home is now known as thiago_tampere
[22:09] <Myrtti> mh
[22:11] <mneptok> maildir
[22:13] <Tm_T> mneptok: ok
[22:13] <Tm_T> Myrtti: you know who thiago is, roight?
[22:14] <Myrtti> no?
[22:14] <Myrtti> should I?
[22:14] <Tm_T> mmm, Nokia/Trolltech/KDE guy
[22:15] <Myrtti> oh, ok.
[22:15] <Tm_T> not "have to" but "won't hurt to" know I think (:)
[22:15] <Myrtti> mmm
[22:27]  * jussi01 waves to the channel
[22:29]  * Myrtti grumbles
[22:30]  * jussi01 grumbles also
[22:30] <jussi01> brb
[23:03]  * Myrtti pokes the interhwebs
[23:15] <Hobbsee> Re:  eagles ban in -motu and -devel, no, it will not get undone.  It was originally going to be re-evaluated after the intrepid release, but he ban evaded (changing nicks, etc), and while doing so, showed he still couldn't follow the rules about staying on topic.  Thus, he is banned there until further notice.
[23:15] <Hobbsee> Thanks :)
[23:21] <Myrtti> [01:20] < gnutron> Myrtti: yeah, to use irssi to chat, you need to connect to a server  running a ircd process.
[23:21] <Myrtti> [01:21] < Myrtti> gnutron: you didn't need to connect to a server running a ircd  process when you came here?
[23:21] <Myrtti> I can't wait for the answer
[23:24] <Myrtti> [01:22] < Myrtti> gnutron: no, I'm asking you if *other* clients wouldn't need ircd ;-)
[23:24] <Myrtti> [01:22] < Myrtti> gnutron: irssi is no exception to other IRC clients
[23:24] <Myrtti> [01:24] < gnutron> Myrtti: no, clients need no ircd
[23:26] <Myrtti> 01:25] < gnutron> Myrtti: i was a global oper on undernet, i'm pretty certain of this.
[23:26] <Myrtti> rrrrright
[23:28] <PriceChild> Myrtti: i assume you submitted to his vast knowledge?
[23:29] <Myrtti> PriceChild: I could start to explain him the basics of DCC and the irc network...
[23:29] <Myrtti> but I suspect it would be a tad too much for him
[23:29] <Myrtti> after all, he has been a global oper on undernet... *rolleyes*
[23:30] <Myrtti> but is it just me or does his logic fail?
[23:30] <Myrtti> irssi is an irc client, irc clients don't need ircds, but no wait.
[23:31] <Myrtti> IRSSI NEEDS IRCD SERVER
[23:31] <Myrtti> huh?
[23:32] <PriceChild> Myrtti: "how can you be a client, if you're not a client to something?"