[00:00] <ActionParsnip> test_: just use the system and websearch whaen you get lost
[00:00] <mrwes> How about the Linux Bible?
[00:00] <Paddy_EIRE> imachine, hehe
[00:00] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[00:00] <test_> how do I switch to '
[00:00] <LjL> !offtopic
[00:00] <KrispyKreme_> !bible
[00:00] <LoveGuru> nickrud_ :  grep -vP '^[ \t]*(#|$)' filename ?
[00:00] <LjL> i'm not typing !offtopic and friends again
[00:00] <getxsick> ok, huh...here is a short tutorial how to set hibernation to the file instead of swap partition. it works from from the command line, but doesn't work from the hibernate button (gnome). i can't find any logs from the operation...where they could to be?
[00:00] <test_> !offtopic
[00:00] <KrispyKreme_> !offtopic
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: is it 8Gb ipod?
[00:00] <LjL> !botabuse
[00:00] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, yup
[00:00] <test_> how do I switch to the off topic forum?
[00:00] <mezquitale> !ot| LjL
[00:00] <LjL> test_: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:00] <test_> thanks!
[00:01] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, also, if you could help me delete the partition on dev6, that'd be great too!
[00:01] <nickrud_> LoveGuru, yes
[00:01] <zeelot> >_<
[00:01] <snuitje> zeelot: hi!
[00:01] <zeelot> snuitje: something about init missing
[00:02] <snuitje> zeelot: which entries did you try? all of them?
[00:02] <mezquitale> mezquitale: /join #alsa
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: fdisk, cfdisk or gparted will help you do that
[00:02] <snuitje> zeelot: which one works? ubuntu or kubuntu?
[00:02] <zeelot> snuitje: the one that booted (I had to change hda to sda but it started and after a bit of loading it told me init was missing)
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: you may need to boot to livecd
[00:02] <Dante123> hi all, trying to run an app that I think was first developed for kde under gnome (in ubuntu) the program starts and i see a logo...but then never loads...i get the following error:  http://pastebin.ca/1268047
[00:02] <zeelot> snuitje: ubuntu still works but im in the live cd now
[00:02] <rrplay> Dante123: ..try ggogling your Qt build 86 or 64 info for ubuntu kde or gnome
[00:03] <cfedde> daily update club
[00:03] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, okay, but how about resetting the gconf value for the ipod?  Is there something I can do for that?
[00:03] <zeelot> snuitje: I really have to get back to work though I have projects due soon so I think ill just install kubuntu and let ubuntu break
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: if you make sure the ipod is in disk mode it may help
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> !ipod | toastedmilk
[00:03] <snuitje> zeelot: i see the problem
[00:03] <snuitje> you have root=/dev/sda1 in the kubuntu stanzas
[00:03] <zeelot> yes
[00:03] <snuitje> try replacing that with sda5
[00:04] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, thanks!
[00:04] <zeelot> ah ok 1 sec, oh and how can I get there from live cd?
[00:04] <snuitje> oh, sudo mkdir /mnt/sda5
[00:04] <snuitje> no wait
[00:04] <getxsick> how can i change Menu key into Control_R ?
[00:04] <snuitje> mount sda1 there's your menu.lst
[00:05] <snuitje> sudo mkdir /mnt/sda1;sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1;kedit /mnt/sda1/grub/menu.lst
[00:05] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, but my problem lies in the mount point.  I took off the mount point after trying to change the key value to '/mnt/ipod', obviously bringing up errors in newline, and /
[00:05] <snuitje> or try kate instead of kedit
[00:05] <snuitje> if the live cd has that
[00:05] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, so I'm just trying to reset the mount-point value in gconf-editor
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: i dont use gnome so im no help here
[00:05] <zeelot> ok so I change hda1 to sda5?
[00:05] <zeelot> snuitje:
[00:06] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, doh.
[00:06] <_cb> Will sudo dpkg –get-selections > /home/user/package.selections save things like my Evolution contacts or are those save in my home folder ? Trying to figure out how to do a clean install without loosing apps or settings.
[00:06] <snuitje> yes, you can do that from within grub btw
[00:06] <snuitje> just press 'e' to edit the menu entries
[00:06] <Myrtti> _cb: no it will not save them
[00:06] <LjjjL> _cb: those are in your home folder. you definitely need to backup your home folder for configurations to carry over
[00:06] <snuitje> then move over the kernel line, press 'e' again, make the change, press enter and press 'b' to boot it
[00:07] <Dante123> rrplay here is where i got the app and some notes  http://fcis.vdu.lt/VDU%20FC%20Naujienos/FAV1-0000D188/FOV1-0001D9CB/I030341EA
[00:07] <snuitje> that's for next time you're in grub and have an os that wont boot ;)
[00:07] <toastedmilk> Does anyone know how to reset the default value for an ipod mount in gconf-editor?
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: does the guide not say?
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: i thought mounts were handled in /etc/fstab
[00:07] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, not at all.
[00:07] <_cb> So for a clean install I only need to tar my home folder, do an sudo dpkg –get-selections > /home/user/package.selections do the clean install copy home folder back and sudo dpkg –set-selections /home/package.selections && apt-get dselect-upgrade
[00:08] <snuitje> what does gconf-editor has to do with mounting an ipod?
[00:08] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, yes, but I'm not familiar with terminal that well
[00:08] <snuitje> i thought gnome-volume-manager handles them, and hal
[00:08] <toastedmilk> snuitje, it holds the registry value
[00:08] <LjjjL> _cb: well, depends if you've also made changes to /etc
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: you can open it in gedit
[00:08] <snuitje> registry?
[00:08] <Brandano> _cb: just to see what you risk to lose, go to your home folder with nautilus and press CTRL+H to show hidden files
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: can i see your /etc/fstab please
[00:08] <_cb> What is /etc used for ?
[00:08] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, how do I open it
[00:08] <rrplay> Dante123: did you install the package or tarball with deps
[00:08] <innovate2000> Anyone solve the "failed to join domain: failed to get DC for domain BLAH.LOCAL" issue in Intrepid ("net ads join")?  "net ads lookup dc" and "net ads info" **work fine**. The same issue as: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6252005 (entry by DouglasK on pg 18) - I posted here:http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3099819.0
[00:09] <toastedmilk> snuitje, open gconf-editor.  the key mount-point value is in there.
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/fstab
[00:09] <Brandano> ActionParsnip: some mounts aren't handled by fstab, not directly
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: pastebinit is sweeet
[00:09] <snuitje> _cb: that was a test area for monkeys, they wrote a lot of random junk and the best of it ended up in /etc ^^
[00:09] <danand> !flash | danand
[00:09] <Brandano> ActionParsnip:  gnome automount deals with removable drives, for example
[00:09] <LjjjL> !filesystem | _cb
[00:10] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, it's working :D
[00:10] <rbd> can anyone recommend a terminal client like secureCRT in windows (e.g. can store profiles for several servers and save passwords)?
[00:10] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/f6af26dc3
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: nice app eh :)
[00:10] <MHz128> I would like to make conky "always on top" so that when I use "Show Desktop" conky isn't hidden/minimized... any ideas?
[00:10] <Brandano> rbd: not offhand, but I'd google for keyring applications
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: oh, is the ipod working?
[00:10] <lemsx1> !mp3
[00:11] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, no, just the pastebinit haha
[00:11] <Dante123> rrplay deb package is what i installed
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: yeah you can pipe text into that or use it to pastebin files from terminal
[00:11] <Zeelot> snuitje: im in!
[00:11] <snuitje> Zeelot: and?
[00:11] <snuitje> kewl!
[00:11] <dichtbijzee> welll, here again, one of the reasons for me to upgrade to 8.10 was the new network manager, but now i dont have a nm-applet  no errors when i start it through the command line, but it just doesn't show up in the notification area
[00:11] <Zeelot> snuitje: but I still get filesystem errors when booting up
[00:11] <snuitje> Zeelot: i did forget 1 thing though
[00:11] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, did you see the url?
[00:11] <snuitje> Zeelot: like what
[00:11] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, I don't think my ipod is listed
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: yeah i saw, ok its not in there
[00:11] <Zeelot> snuitje: I hit cntr-D and it keeps going
[00:12] <snuitje> Zeelot: ???
[00:12] <rrplay> Dante123: it is a beta on that page
[00:12] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, which is funny, because it's connected and charging
[00:12] <Zeelot> snuitje: says something like checking filesystem and it fails
[00:12] <snuitje> Zeelot: um, that's usually considered a Bad ThingTM
[00:12] <Zeelot> snuitje: how can I go back and see what it said?
[00:12] <Brandano> toastedmilk: not listed in lsusb?
[00:12] <Guest81358> I have an issue with newmode not working, anyone wanna help me out? i cant get my asus 900 to display 1024x600:(
[00:12] <snuitje> Zeelot: there's no bootlog by default
[00:13] <snuitje> Zeelot: you can boot in rescue mode and run fsck from there
[00:13] <Zeelot> snuitje: it said it logged something but duno where
[00:13] <toastedmilk> Brandano, yes, but I unmounted it in gconf-editor and now I need the default value for the key
[00:13] <vancomycin> i can't seem to play any video format on vlc player or mplayer (some alsa error keeps flashing) - only getting sound on vlc, video on mplayer but that flashing error keeps coming - any ideas? running 8.10
[00:13] <Dante123> rrplay same thing happens with the previous release 8.153 (i think that was the number)
[00:13] <snuitje> Zeelot: should be in /var/log then
[00:13] <toastedmilk> Brandano, I already tried clearing the value, and that doesn't work
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: thats because 5v will flow to it if the pc is turned on. It'd do it if you were configuring your bios
[00:13] <rrplay> Dante check out the previos client info on the page
[00:13] <jimbofoxman> my cdrom doesn't work in 8.10......recognizes it, but won't read it
[00:14] <snuitje> Zeelot: anyway, it still mounts /dev/sda1 under /boot, that's a no-no
[00:14] <vancomycin> and i have a nvidia card on my laptop
[00:14] <Brandano> unplugging and re-plugging doesn't show the USB ID?
[00:14] <Dante123> rrplay i thought maybe beta would fix prob....however I have same program on another computer and it works fine.
[00:14] <toastedmilk> Brandano, it's current value is 'disk', but that isn't working with Songbird
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: does it show up ni lsusb?
[00:14] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, yup
[00:14] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, Bus 001 Device 004: ID 05ac:1263 Apple Computer, Inc.
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: you could try a reboot with the ipod attached
[00:14] <rrplay> Dante123:    look hee on page in red  $ cp /opt/firstclass/fcapps ~/firstclass/
[00:14] <Brandano> toastedmilk: ptobably needs a different entry in the device list. Odd, though
[00:15]  * Brandano has a Zen Vision M
[00:15] <toastedmilk> I just need a value for gconf-editor I'm fairly sure
[00:15] <Zeelot> snuitje: so what do I do?
[00:15] <Brandano> works well enough with Gnomad, but all uploaded files end up in the video folder for some reason
[00:15] <toastedmilk> Brandano, Do you have an ipod?  What is it's mount value?
[00:15] <snuitje> Zeelot: sudo mkdir /usr/local/boot;gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[00:15] <Brandano> toastedmilk: not an ipod, different make
[00:16] <snuitje> Zeelot: change where it says /boot to /usr/local/boot
[00:16] <Brandano> but probably can be found online
[00:16] <snuitje> Zeelot: then gksudo /etc/rc.local
[00:16] <toastedmilk> Brandano, does it load into /media/disk ?
[00:16] <snuitje> Zeelot: i mean
[00:16] <snuitje> Zeelot: wait dont do that
[00:16] <Brandano> not the Nomad. It's an MTP device
[00:16] <snuitje> Zeelot: gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local
[00:16] <Dante123> rrplay i dont understand what you mean...do I type that in at terminal?
[00:16] <snuitje> Zeelot: better
[00:16] <rrplay> Dante123:    check out the  previous version you had  you may have to unistall the deb packages and build from tar
[00:17] <toastedmilk> Brandano, Will you open gconf-editor and tell me the mount_point value?
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: try manually mounting it, see if it works then (im not familiar with ipods as I find them repulsive)
[00:17] <Zeelot> snuitje: im not in live cd now you know that right?
[00:17] <snuitje> Zeelot: yes, i know that :)
[00:17] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, yes, I would, but I don't know THE VALUE OF THE MOUNT POINT
[00:17] <rrplay> Dante123: you should have that folder maybe   hidden in dir
[00:18] <snuitje> Zeelot: oh wait, gksudo on kubuntu lol
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: kill the CAPS
[00:18] <toastedmilk> Action, sudo mount <dev> <type> <dir>
[00:18] <snuitje> Zeelot: umm
[00:18] <snuitje> Zeelot: sudo kedit /etc/rc.local then
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: you can mount to *anywhere* in your system except in /proc
[00:18] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, sudo mount <dev> <type> <dir>
[00:18] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, I don't know <dev> or <type>
[00:18] <Zeelot> snuitje: what do I do in there?
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: you could mount to /goats/giraffes/angels/tattoosaresweet if you wanted
[00:19] <Brandano> toastedmilk: as I said, with the Creative players it doesn't work like that, it won't show them as a storage device
[00:19] <snuitje> Zeelot: change /boot into /usr/local/boot
[00:19] <snuitje> you made that dir right?
[00:19] <Zeelot> yea but
[00:19] <Zeelot> in rc.local?
[00:19] <Brandano> not unless I configure part of the drive as a storage drive, which I am not going to do...
[00:19] <Zeelot> what do I put in there
[00:19] <vancomycin> do i need to install medibuntu?
[00:19] <snuitje> haha no sorry silly me
[00:19] <Zeelot> snuitje: I changed it in fstab
[00:19] <snuitje> yes
[00:20] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, as I'm trying to say, I don't know the syntax for the mount command
[00:20] <snuitje> in rc.local you just add mount -o bind /usr/local/boot/boot /boot
[00:20] <snuitje> above exit 0
[00:20] <Zeelot> snuitje: ok got it is that it?
[00:20] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, I need a device name and a device type along with the directory, I know neither nor do I know how to find it.
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: looks like there is no partition on there, ipod is detected as /dev/sdf so /dev/sdf1 would be logical but ubuntu is not showing it
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: the directory is choosable by you. There is no "right" directory
[00:21] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, That's because I changed the value in gconf-editor
[00:21] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, I know the directory is chooseable by me
[00:21] <Brandano> toastedmilk: lsusb in my case returns "Bus 001 Device 011: ID 041e:413e Creative Technology, Ltd"  for the player
[00:21] <snuitje> Zeelot: yeah, that should take care of it, the only thing left to do is to make update-grub run that script i wrote
[00:21] <Zeelot> snuitje: ill reboot now and ill tell you the errors in more details
[00:21] <Crash_0verride> Hello, I'm having a bit of trouble.
[00:21] <snuitje> with proper modification of course
[00:21] <toastedmilk> Brandano, yes, but that tells me neither the device name or the device type
[00:21] <Brandano> the type of the device is defined by that 041e:413e
[00:21] <Crash_0verride> I'm running ubuntu on a whole bunch of oil tankers
[00:21] <Crash_0verride> and they've all just started sinking.
[00:22] <Brandano> it is unique for any USB device, and googling for it usually turns out what drivers are needed
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> (00:17:45) toastedmilk: ActionParsnip, yes, I would, but I don't know THE VALUE OF THE MOUNT POINT <- you said yu didnt
[00:22] <xbj_A21m> hi Mr.Mister
[00:22] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, 'value of the mount point' in gconf-editor
[00:22] <xbj_A21m> I enjoy your songs
[00:22] <soros> is there a ubuntu iso specifically for 64bit computers?
[00:22] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, not' directory of the mount point'
[00:23] <Crash_0verride> Are there any good firewalls that I could use to guard my garbage file?
[00:23] <Brandano> toastedmilk: can you connect to the ipod via one of the media players? Amarok for example?
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: in linux, the mountpoint is the folder you are mountnig to
[00:23] <Brandano> soros: the amd64 distro
[00:24] <jimbofoxman> can anyone help me with mounted cd not reading data?
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: ive had a look atthis gconf-editor and it loks like a gui for fstab amongst other stuf
[00:24] <Brandano> soros: not "a version" as such, it's just compiled for 64 bit architectures
[00:24] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, In Gnome, you can't use 'newline' or 'G_DIR_SEPARATOR(/)' in a registry key
[00:24] <Brandano> jimbofoxman: is it mounted?
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: linux doesnt have a registry
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: windows has a registry
[00:24] <Brandano> and, is it mounted with the correct filesystem?
[00:24] <DasEi1> how do I restart hal ?
[00:24] <unop> ActionParsnip, gconf is a registry :)
[00:25] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, gconf-editor, wtfever
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> then im glad i dont use gnome, registrys are silly
[00:25] <toastedmilk> Brandano, no, because in Amarok you have to have the ipod mounted at /mnt/ipod, which caused my initial problems to begin with
[00:25] <Brandano> toastedmilk: try escaping it? \/
[00:25] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, how convenient.
[00:25] <Schuenemann> hey, which version should I get for a core 2 duo? The ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso ?
[00:25] <lbbit> test
[00:25] <unop> ActionParsnip, ok, sysctl is a registry then :)
[00:25] <toastedmilk> Brandano, what?
[00:25] <snuitje> Q: in /etc/kernel-img.conf can you use multiple postinst and postrm hooks? or can that only be done with sh -c 'update-grub; other-hook' ?
[00:26] <DasEi1> Schuenemann: which graphics ?
[00:26] <jimbofoxman> brandano:  it's mounted according to the icon in vmware....if I put in an audio cd it opens up listen but does nothing
[00:26] <Llanowyn> I have an issue trying to install ubuntu, I try to format my partitions, and my system hangs at 33% 'Creating ext3 file system for / in partition #1 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda)...'    How can I troubleshoot and diagnose why I am unable to partition my hard drive?
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> toastedmilk: http://blog.christinaoutlay.com/2008/05/28/ipod-wont-mount-in-ubuntu-did-you-try-to-set-a-mount-point-and-instead-screwed-up-something-try-this-fix.aspx
[00:26] <Brandano> toastedmilk: bash takes as escape character the \ symbol
[00:26] <Schuenemann> DasEi1, what do you mean?
[00:26] <soros> thanks
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> unop: sysctl - configure kernel parameters at runtime
[00:26] <DasEi1> Llanowyn: verified installer cd ?
[00:26] <Brandano> jimbofoxman: oh, it's playing it
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> unop: just ran man sysctl
[00:26] <DasEi1> Schuenemann: which graphic-card
[00:26] <Brandano> jimbofoxman: the only problem is that it has no soundcard to play it with
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> unop: doesnt sound synonymous with a windows registry to me
[00:27] <Llanowyn> DasEi1:  Did not verify, will verify now.  Any other ideas if verification is successful?
[00:27] <unop> ActionParsnip, ok, but it's still a table of key and value pairs
[00:27] <Brandano> so probably it's only playing it through the audio out
[00:27] <toastedmilk> Brandano, http://pastebin.com/d5e2d4b2c
[00:27] <jimbofoxman> brandano:  but I can hear sound from youtube in FireFox
[00:27] <toastedmilk> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/d5e2d4b2c
[00:27] <Schuenemann> DasEi1, why is that important? There isn't a version for each graphic card, just for architectures
[00:27] <unop> ActionParsnip, which is what a 'registry' is really
[00:27] <Brandano> which might not be connected to the soundcard
[00:27] <DasEi1> Schuenemann: xorg 7.4, but for the rest your right
[00:27] <vancomycin> any ideas why i can't see video but hear audio only in vlc? i have w32codecs and libdvdcss2 installed (medibuntu) / some errors coming through mplayer too - i've tried all sorts of keywords on the forum but couldnt pintpoint an answer - thanks for your time and help!
[00:28] <Brandano> jimbofoxman: CD players have a connector for the audio out. Normally you have a cable running from it to an input on the soundcard
[00:28] <Schuenemann> DasEi1, my question is: what ubuntu should I download
[00:28] <marcelo__> is it normal for the monitor to show its on 60hz refresh rate and ubuntu (intrepid) showing it wrongly in the screen resolution? (50hz)
[00:28] <Brandano> some older ones have a jack on their front for earphones too
[00:28] <DasEi1> Llanowyn: try this , then cd failure >>most problems
[00:28] <jimbofoxman> works in windows xp though
[00:28] <Crash_0verride> Schuenemann: if you have less than 4gb of ram, use x86
[00:28] <DasEi1> !best | Schuenemann
[00:28] <Brandano> Because XP cheats
[00:29] <zack> hey where am I?
[00:29] <snuitje> Schuenemann: core 2 duo != amd64 so get the pc cd
[00:29] <central> hello, it is truth that aircrack dont work with ubuntu 8.10 ?
[00:29] <Brandano> jimbofoxman: XP reads the CD as data, samples it and then plays it out from the soundcard. Losing a lot of quality, btw
[00:29] <DasEi1> Llanowyn: (cd-rom failure, memtest)
[00:29] <Schuenemann> Crash_0verride, is there any special reason for that? It's a core 2 duo
[00:29] <zack> what's going on?
[00:29] <marcelo__> snuitje, wrong, for 64bit C2D you can use amd64 distro
[00:29] <zack> I'm scared guys. HELP!
[00:29] <Schuenemann> snuitje, but I got to that ISO clicking on 64bit version, not AMD
[00:29] <mrwes> !info beer
[00:29] <mrwes> heh
[00:29] <Crash_0verride> Schuenemann: you can't allocate more than 4gb of memory in a 32 bit os
[00:29] <Llanowyn> DasEi1:  I will try verifying my installer dvd.  If the dvd is a confirmed failure, should I try reburning the image or redownloading the image from a different mirror?
[00:30] <Crash_0verride> Schuenemann: and 64 bit linux has a ton of lib issues
[00:30] <mrwes> !info store
[00:30] <snuitje> marcelo__: ok
[00:30] <marcelo__> Nah, 64bit works fine
[00:30] <Schuenemann> Crash_0verride, ahh, libs are the problem...
[00:30] <Crash_0verride> Schuenemann: If you want things to "just work", take the easy way out.
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> marcelo__: works ok here too
[00:30] <Brandano> Crash_0verride: apart from some Win32 codecs, 64 bit Ubuntu has been rock solid for me
[00:30] <Schuenemann> Crash_0verride, Well, the notebook arrived with 1 GB but I was planning to put 4 GB
[00:30] <Crash_0verride> and in my experience, x86_64 actually benchmarks slower than x86 linux.
[00:30] <DasEi1> Llanowyn: why do you use a dvd (more data = more poss. faults ?) verify with the installers choice check media and see :
[00:30] <snuitje> does vlc use w32codecs?
[00:31] <Crash_0verride> Schuenemann: go the 64 bit route then
[00:31] <Schuenemann> Brandano, what's wrong with the codecs
[00:31] <Brandano> Yep, the idea that 64 bit is faster is a misconception
[00:31] <jimbofoxman> Brandano:  I can't even read files from the CD using WINE to install.........doesn't see any files
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> Crash_0verride: depends depends no the app
[00:31] <DasEi1> !md5 | Llanowyn
[00:31] <xbj_A21m> 64 bit is only faster for certain operations such as DVD transcoding
[00:31] <^Cheeky> can anyone help me , with my virtual box installing running windows xp, i need to obtain a file from the virtual box. please can anyone help me
[00:31] <Schuenemann> Crash_0verride, I would, but you just scared me with those library issues :-)
[00:31] <Schuenemann> Crash_0verride, does that happen with all distros?
[00:31] <Pelo> ^Cheeky, try asking in #vbox
[00:31] <Brandano> Schuenemann: some win32 codecs are only available as win32 binaries. Mplayer can use these, but only if you run the 32 bit version
[00:32] <^Cheeky> ok
[00:32] <Crash_0verride> Schuenemann: yeah pretty much. it just has to do with the state of gcc under 64 bit
[00:32] <OrcD3vil> anyone running WoW on Ubuntu that can give me a hand?
[00:32] <Schuenemann> hmm that sucks :-/
[00:32] <Llanowyn> DasEi1:  I used a dvd because the image I downloaded was over 1gb and would not fit on a cd-r.  I will try !md5 to test my .iso integrity.
[00:32] <Brandano> Schuenemann: there's workarounds, but they are not exactly trivial
[00:32] <Schuenemann> Brandano, I can imagine
[00:32] <Brandano> Mainly they are older stuff, though
[00:32] <djungelkraem> is there any info about how much faster jaunty will boot? (approx.)
[00:32] <Crash_0verride> 32 bit linux can allocate 4gb of ram
[00:33] <Crash_0verride> assuming you have no other devices that use memory.. such as video cards or w/e.. as long as that's shared with your ram, you're fine.
[00:33] <FFighter> Crash_0verride, but only if you don't have for example, more mem on a video card
[00:33] <rrplay> Schuenemann: maybe after you install  sudo gedit /etc/init.d/rc   look for CONCURRENCY=none  replace with CONCURRENCY=shell
[00:33] <Brandano> Crash_0verride: I am not sure about that
[00:33] <Brandano> But surely it can't allocate more
[00:33] <FFighter> If you have 4GB RAM, go for 64
[00:33] <FFighter> it works fine
[00:33] <henke> is there any good way to completely disable mouse acceleration? I normally use 'xset m 1 1', but there must be a better solution.
[00:33] <Llanowyn> DasEi1:  Thank you for all of your help. =)
[00:33] <DasEi1> Llanowyn: so we already got your prob
[00:33] <snuitje> djungelkraem: no idea but any help is greatly appreciated :)
[00:33] <DasEi1> Llanowyn: wait!
[00:34] <Crash_0verride> or you could compile PAE and 64-bit memory allocation into your 32-bit kernel, and be golden.
[00:34] <Llanowyn> DasEi1:  I'm not leaving just yet.
[00:34] <Schuenemann> sounds complicated
[00:34] <agroker> I have a problem with growing Load_Cycle_Count, can anybody point me to an official solution? I'm tired of typing hdparm -B 254 all the time
[00:34] <Crash_0verride> i've heard it can be unstable.. but I don't have a system with 4+gb of ram to test it on
[00:34] <djungelkraem> snuitje  i cant help, i cant code :P just wondering because i remember i read somewhere that they wanted to make it half the boot time of intrepid
[00:34] <DasEi1> Llanowyn: the installer image fits on a cd , or there is sth wrong (gotta finalize disk), but you CANNOT burn a cd image to DVD
[00:35] <snuitje> oh tas kewl
[00:35] <FFighter> is there any specific channel for X ?
[00:35] <snuitje> +h
[00:35] <LF|Irssi> !who
[00:35] <OrcD3vil> I have a fresh install of Ubuntu Ibex, I installed Wine/WoW WoTLK and my 3d Rendering is "Yes" but when I launch WoW it goes to a glitched out Screen I hear the sound but have to kill hte process
[00:35] <Static--> !tab
[00:35] <Llanowyn> DasEi1:  Right, I'm aware of that.  I'm 99% sure I downloaded a dvd image.
[00:35] <DasEi1> OrcD3vil: see:
[00:35] <DasEi1> !wine
[00:35] <innovate2000> Anyone solve the "failed to join domain: failed to get DC for domain BLAH.LOCAL" issue in Intrepid ("net ads join")?  "net ads lookup dc" and "net ads info" **work fine**. The same issue as: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6252005 (entry by DouglasK on pg 18) - I posted here: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3099819.0
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> OrcD3vil: did you install video drivers?
[00:36] <azfira_> WWW:DEPARTEMEN HUKUM DAN HAM
[00:36] <OrcD3vil> Yes I have the proprietary drivers running at 1.73
[00:36] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all; last night I ran aptitude full-upgrade and lost my sound .. I've checked alsamixer (and sudo alsamixer), my sound icon was muted and I unmuted it, then I made sure it just wast't a fluke and rebooted, tried a movie, music, and flash off the web .. even me boot up/login sounds aren't working .. Ideas where else to look? (Onboard Intel sound, 8.10)
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> OrcD3vil: then id lok at configuring wine a little better, check some guides out
[00:37] <OrcD3vil> ActionParsnip: I get a Error when I tried to load it I have to ALT-Tab to a terminal client to kill it
[00:37] <mapreduce> I am using an Asus EEE; clearly not Ubuntu, but related.  I used its wizards to set up a VPN connection so I can ssh to my work machine (which is Ubuntu, though that's irrelevant).  The VPN connection silently drops sometimes.  Is there anywhere I should look to see why it drops?
[00:37] <Brandano> NineTeen67Comet: in my case it was a single checkbox in "switches", but I have a different soundcard
[00:37] <Schuenemann> hey, about the alternate install cd, is its interface CLI or like those old DOS applications (Edit, scandisk, etc)?
[00:37] <DasEi1> Llanowyn: verify disk and iso file, run a memtest, or try medium on another dvd-drive (integrity check) to close out faulty drive, also if you re-burn, use cd and no full speed
[00:37] <LjjjL> mapreduce: err... the eee's default Linux operating system is just about the most unrelated thing to Ubuntu ever that's still Linux
[00:38] <NineTeen67Comet> Brandano: "switches" .. in Pref>Sound? ..
[00:38] <Brandano> NineTeen67Comet: at least you got X working first time, lucky b..
[00:38] <LjjjL> mapreduce: so please, ask in #eeepc or something (or install Ubuntu on your eee and then ask here)
[00:38] <Llanowyn> DasEi1:  Integrity check is at 95% right now.
[00:38] <Crash_0verride> mapreduce: ask in #networking
[00:38] <snuitje> NineTeen67Comet: you can also try running 2.6.27-8 from intrepid-proposed
[00:38] <NineTeen67Comet> Brandano: I've been happy with 8.10 for about a month now (all working awesome) .. just noticed the sound went away after I upgraded "stuff" last night ..
[00:38] <unop> Schuenemann, yes, the interface is built with curses/ncurses
[00:39] <Brandano> NineTeen67Comet: no, double click on the volume icon to bring up the full mixer, it has some tabs on it
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> OrcD3vil: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120615
[00:39] <Schuenemann> unop, so, it has those "buttons"
[00:39] <snuitje> NineTeen67Comet: or if you're on 2.6.27-8 now, try booting to -7
[00:39] <NineTeen67Comet> snuitje: I haven't tried to run proposed (although I do run bleeding edge in Gentoo) .. I'll have to google that one, I enable all my repositories ..
[00:40] <Brandano> NineTeen67Comet: in my case "playback", "recording" and "switches"
[00:40] <snuitje> NineTeen67Comet: kk
[00:40] <Brandano> digital out was checked, but I have analogue speakers
[00:40] <unop> Schuenemann, not sure what you mean - but 'buttons' in curses are usually just text with a different background - in respect to the alternate installer, you shift focus using the TAB key and select using the ENTER or SPACEBAR
[00:40] <Llanowyn> DasEi1:  "The cd-rom integrity test was successful. The cd-rom is valid."  I will try to verify the md5 of my .iso
[00:40] <node357> ActionParsnip, it took 40 minutes to scan the mirror but eventually worked
[00:41] <Brandano> NineTeen67Comet: however, the sound pipe is pretty long, could be broken in several places
[00:41] <woli> hi
[00:41] <NineTeen67Comet> Brandano: nope, all sliders are maxed, nothing muted .. hum .. Might be a good excuse to re-install .. grin .. I like doing that .. lol
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> node357: maybe its super busy
[00:41] <Brandano> why every time they try to simplify the sound system by adding more wrappers?
[00:41] <woli> is there a way that i could put icons in ~/.emblems and use them?
[00:41] <FFighter> is there any specific channel for X ?
[00:41] <node357> ActionParsnip, I think so, updates are taking forever
[00:41] <node357> the Canadian server
[00:42] <getxsick> i would like to remap Menu key into Control...i tried xmodmap -e "keycode 117 = Control_R" and under xev seems to work fine, but not affect in the system
[00:42] <fonzarelli> FFighter, #xorg
[00:42] <Brandano> woli: using "cp" from the terminal?
[00:42] <mapreduce> LjjjL: That's just untrue, sorry.  EEE's Linux is based on Xandros, which is based on Corel Linux, which is based on Debian.  It's a second-cousin of Ubuntu.  It comes with dpkg and synaptic.  Slackware, Fedora and Gentoo are all much further away.
[00:42] <FFighter> fonzarelli, thank you
[00:42] <snuitje> NineTeen67Comet: co http://paste.ubuntu.com/77262/
[00:42] <mapreduce> LjjjL: Thanks for your reasoned response.
[00:42] <NineTeen67Comet> snuitje: I'm running -7 right now .. Do you got a quick answer as to how to install the proposed kernel? -8 .. I've got my repo wide open .. it might already be installed and just need to pick it in grub ..
[00:42] <LjjjL> mapreduce: ok, it's still very much offtopic for this channel, though.
[00:42] <woli> Brandano, what I mean is, how do i get ubuntu to add emblems from a custom folder automatically?
[00:42] <Schuenemann> unop, yes, exacly. It "simulates" a GUI. I was wondering if I'd have to know the commands to install, but I don't. Thanks
[00:42] <VBoxUbuntuUser> just installed ubuntu through Vbox-How do I increase resolution?
[00:43] <mapreduce> LjjjL: Great.
[00:43] <NineTeen67Comet> snuitje: lol .. thanks ..
[00:43] <woli> nautilus does not use the emblems in ~/.emblems as far as i know... does it?
[00:43] <snuitje> NineTeen67Comet: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Testing/EnableProposed
[00:43] <unop> Schuenemann, no, the interface is 'graphical' in the way you don't type commands out
[00:43] <NineTeen67Comet> snuitje: thanks again .. setting it up now .. =)
[00:43] <Brandano> woli: are you trying to get the emblems to show for CVS and SVN?
[00:44] <woli> Brandano, just for my local folders
[00:44] <snuitje> NineTeen67Comet: after you've added the line in /etc/apt/sources.list, run apt-get -t intrepid-proposed install linux-image-2.6.27-8-generic to get the new kernel
[00:44] <peter_> hi there, random gnome question: I'm running multiple monitors as separate x displays, how do I start gnome on only one of them?
[00:44] <woli> Brandano, and no, just custom emblems
[00:44] <Brandano> woli: nautilus uses them if they are specified for the folders
[00:44] <woli> Brandano, how?
[00:44] <ExecutiveOrder> how do i have the permissions listed in an apache directory?
[00:44] <Brandano> woli: I know I have some SVN scripts that make use of them. Perhaps you could make a script for that?
[00:44] <vancomycin> i can't seem to play any video format on vlc player or mplayer (some alsa error keeps flashing) - only getting sound on vlc, video on mplayer but that flashing error keeps coming - any ideas? running 8.10  / i have the nvidia 177 drivers
[00:44] <ExecutiveOrder> so when people visit the page it will show the files
[00:44] <my_haz> LooieENG: actually, there is a problem with escape()
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> !plugins | vancomycin
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> !plugin | vancomycin
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> !codecs | vancomycin
[00:45] <NineTeen67Comet> snuitje: thanks, it's updating/installing now ..
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> yay
[00:45] <node357> why are file tranfers for a DVD only going at 4 MB per second?
[00:45] <Brandano> woli: right mouse button, properties, emblems, tick as appropriate, I believe. Never used them
[00:45] <node357> the last one was 12 MB per second
[00:45] <my_haz> LooieENG: http://cass-hacks.com/articles/discussion/js_url_encode_decode/
[00:45] <node357> maybe it's damaged :(
[00:46] <Brandano> woli: just tried it on a folder on my desktop, seems to work fine
[00:46] <woli> Brandano, i got lost after the emblems part
[00:46] <Brandano> woli: from nautilus, navigate to the parent of the folder where you want to assign the emblem
[00:46] <woli> i mean, the appropiate part
[00:47] <woli> ok
[00:47] <woli> i follow
[00:47] <benguin> hello there
[00:47] <woli> !hi
[00:47] <Brandano> woli: right click on the folder, and select properties
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> node357: you can tune it with hdparam for your hdd. i think theres one for optical drives too
[00:47] <benguin> i was wondering, is there a suite of benchmark tools to test the performance of my linux system>
[00:47] <woli> continue
[00:47] <Brandano> woli: one of the tabs is emblems
[00:47] <woli> yes
[00:47] <Brandano> woli: you can select them from there
[00:47] <snuitje> benguin: unreal tournament 2003, 2004, etc.
[00:47] <vancomycin> ubottu, thanks - everything was working fine in 8.04 and prior . i've never ran into so much graphics card related problems / should have stuck with 8.04 :( / getting that dual monitor support took forever , but that's working - searching the forums for this gave alot of mixed queries
[00:47] <tim__b> haha, frets on fire just crashed and now i can't move my mouse, is there any way to get it back working without rebooting or killing x?
[00:47] <woli> the emblems? i know... but i want my custom emblems!
[00:47] <benguin> i want to see how good my machine is number-crunching .. and if there is a bottleneck, how to go about  fixing it
[00:47] <VBoxUbuntuUser>  just installed ubuntu through Vbox-How do I increase resolution?
[00:48] <snuitje> benguin: doom3, quake4...
[00:48] <Brandano> woli: I imagine you want to add different, custom ones?
[00:48] <benguin> snuitje, are these benchmark tools freely available?
[00:48] <woli> Brandano, that is right
[00:48] <snuitje> benguin: welll you can get demos -_-'
 hi there, random gnome question: I'm running multiple monitors as separate x displays, how do I start gnome on only one of them?
[00:48] <justizin> hello, i failed to pair with my bluetooth mouse using bluez on ubuntu, only because i didnt know the passcode.  now, i can't try again, it just says, 'pairing with mouse failed'.  how can i make bluez forget my mouse and find it all over again?
[00:48] <benguin> snuitje, okay. never ran them as benchmarks though.
[00:49] <NineTeen67Comet> snuitje: Off to "reboot" and test out the new kernel .. thanks much .. I've got to run the kids to the BX (Store) after this so I won't be back today'ish .. thanks Brandano too, your time is much appriaicated ..
[00:49] <snuitje> oops
[00:49] <snuitje> benguin: quake can run recorded demos
[00:49] <snuitje> benguin: useful for testing =)
[00:49] <node357> thanks ActionParsnip
[00:49] <vancomycin> ubottu, i already tried sudo apt-get install ubuntu-unrestricted-extras  / still no video playback on vlc
[00:50] <snuitje> NineTeen67Comet: yw
[00:50] <woli> Brandano, so do you know how to accomplish that?
[00:50] <vancomycin> i already tried sudo apt-get install ubuntu-unrestricted-extras  / still no video playback on vlc
[00:50] <benguin> snuitje, okay. thanks. do these tools give quantitative results in any form? like, cpu and gpu performance, i/o bottlenecks etc etc?
[00:50] <standarshy> Hey room
[00:50] <peter_> hello
[00:50] <Brandano> woli: looking into it. Found an interesting bug report: http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg804177.html
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> vancomycin: try sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[00:50] <StephenF> what would be the best raid configuration for a webserver with 4 32GB drives?
[00:50] <snuitje> benguin: not at all, i didn't expect you to take me serious -_-''
[00:50] <alec868> can anyone help me with installing drivers and configuring gsynaptic, so i can get my touch pad to work properly?
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> vancomycin: read the link ubottu gave
[00:50] <Brandano> so there's at least two ways to do it, but one is broken :)
[00:50] <StephenF> I can just use a single RAID 5 config becuase it would be able to boot right?
[00:51] <standarshy> I recently messed somethign up and was hoping someone could help me fix it.
[00:51] <benguin> snuitje, there are unreal tournament benchmarks that i have seen published online
[00:51] <vancomycin> ActionParsnip, they are installed , i searched for mediubuntu earlier to check and they were installed
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> standarshy: what did you do?
[00:51] <snuitje> benguin: thats kewl
[00:51] <benguin> snuitje, so you did have a serious answer :)
[00:51] <standarshy> I messed up the mounthing setting on a partion
[00:51] <snuitje> benguin: hehe
[00:51] <StephenF> so should I create two RAID 1 setups, or 1 disk for boot, and the other three RAID 5?
[00:51] <benguin> snuitje, thanks for the info, though, these are not what im looking at
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> vancomycin: what is the file you are trying to play?
[00:51] <standarshy> ActionParsnip, when I try to mount the partition, I get "invalid mount option..."
[00:52] <snuitje> benguin: bonnie++ can test filesystem performance
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> standarshy: what command are you using to mount?
[00:52] <snuitje> benguin: yafray and povray can test your cpu
[00:52] <itai_michaelson> hi, i have oowriter in both english and chinese. now in english session, how do i ran chinese oowriter without switching session language (i remember there was a command, but i forgot the syntax)
[00:52] <benguin> snuitje, im looking more at CPU and memory performance
[00:52] <benguin> snuitje, ill look into those then
[00:52] <Brandano> woli: found it
[00:52] <snuitje> benguin: encrypting stuff with gpg can also be a benchmark
[00:52] <alec868> How do i change xorg.conf or XF86Config to use gsynaptics?
[00:53] <woli> Brandano, dragging doesn't work for me...
[00:53] <Brandano> woli: on the left bar, pull down the combo at the top
[00:53] <standarshy> ActionParsnip, I was trying to get the partition to mount automatically on startup to i tried setting the mount location
[00:53] <peter_> alec868: I think HAL should autodetect that now
[00:53] <Brandano> and choose the emblems bar
[00:53] <standarshy> now that I can't mount it, I don't know how to change the mounting options
[00:53] <woli> Brandano, which left bar?
[00:53] <alec868> peter: i dont understand
[00:53] <KrispyKreme> help me get my wifi set up please. I have 5007eg with ubuntu 8.10.
[00:53] <thiebaude> actionparsnip:i got a question about fluxbox
[00:54] <woli> Ahh....
[00:54] <benguin> snuitje, looking into povray benchmarking now
[00:54] <woli> sorry!
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> standarshy: then you need to look at fstab
[00:54] <woli> got it thanks!
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: sup?
[00:54] <standarshy> ActionParsnip, how do I do that?
[00:54] <VBoxUbuntuUser> anyone here using Ubuntu through VBox?
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> !fstab | standarshy
 hi there, random gnome question: I'm running multiple monitors as separate x displays, how do I start gnome on only one of them?
[00:54] <KrispyKreme> VBoxUbuntuUser: virtualbox?
[00:54] <Brandano> woli: I suspect you have to be root to add more symbols there. Could be not so....
[00:54] <innovate2000> Anyone solve the "failed to join domain: failed to get DC for domain BLAH.LOCAL" issue in Intrepid ("net ads join")?  "net ads lookup dc" and "net ads info" **work fine**. The same issue as: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6252005 (entry by DouglasK on pg 18) - I posted here: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3099819.0
[00:54] <thiebaude> how do i set my resolution so i dont have to keep using xrandr?
[00:54] <VBoxUbuntuUser> KrispyKreme: Yes
[00:54] <KrispyKreme> help me get my wifi set up please. I have 5007eg with ubuntu 8.10.
[00:54] <Brandano> depends on where Nautilus stores this stuff, I imagine
[00:55] <Brandano> woli: in case, just start an instance of nautilus with sudo from a terminal
[00:55] <vancomycin> ActionParsnip, / an xvid mpeg-4 file for example / these use to play in older builds, using 8.10 now with nvidia accelerated graphics driver 177 - activated / this same file plays in mplayer , but this ALSA error keeps flashing in the middle of the screen very fast
[00:55] <KrispyKreme> VBoxUbuntuUser: I don't think they have it on linux
[00:55] <KrispyKreme> let me cross check
[00:55] <snuitje> thiebaude: tried gnome-display-properties ?
[00:55] <KrispyKreme> someone help me get my wifi set up please. I have 5007eg with ubuntu 8.10.
[00:55] <StephenF> Ive got 4 drives in my web server, how should I configure RAID?
[00:55] <thiebaude> let me try, snuitje
[00:55] <VBoxUbuntuUser> KrispyKreme: I have it installed, need to know how to increase resolution
[00:55] <Brandano> woli: just remember that you can do more damage inadvertently with drag'n drop than from the command line
[00:55] <sacamano> heres a random question, when my computer is on battery, the keyboard stops working for some reason. doesnt work if i unplug it, only if i control-alt-backspace and log in again
[00:56] <alec868> what is HAL?
[00:56] <lbbit> Raid 0 for games Raid 5 for err thin else
[00:56] <snuitje> hardware abstraction layer
[00:56] <OrcD3vil> ActionParsnip: I'm trying to follow the guide that you showed me but getting hung. I downloaded all the files it says to and when I type patch -p1 < wine-wow-fixes.patch
[00:56] <Brandano> alec868: it's IBM in rot -1
[00:56] <snuitje> that too ^^
[00:56] <KrispyKreme> I want to listen music that is on a NTFS partition. how do i do that?
[00:56] <KrispyKreme> listen to*
[00:56] <OrcD3vil> ActionParsnip: it says: patch: No such file or directory Skip this patch? [y]
[00:56] <standarshy> ActionParsnip, thanks, I will take a look
[00:56] <woli> Brandano, yes
[00:56] <snuitje> hackers at large ^^
[00:56] <woli> Brandano, thank you very much
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> OrcD3vil: thats all i know, i dont play WoW
[00:57] <VBoxUbuntuUser> am I invisible?
[00:57] <OrcD3vil> kk
[00:57] <woli> Brandano, is there a way to reset icons?
[00:57] <Brandano> woli: you are welcome. and I learned something new too
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> OrcD3vil: try specifying the path to the patch maybe
[00:57] <KrispyKreme> someone help me get my wifi set up please. I have 5007eg with ubuntu 8.10.  ActionParsnip
[00:57] <Brandano> woli: no idea
[00:57] <Illuzionz> how can i mount a ntfs hdd to my linux?, i have this ntfs ntwrapper tool, it aint working
[00:57] <woli> Brandano, ah found it
[00:57] <roshank> !ubotu dvdplayback
[00:57] <OrcD3vil> ActionParsnip: all the files are in the same dir from what I understand
[00:57] <Brandano> what do you mean, the thumbnails?
[00:57] <Skyfury> can someone help me please getting my wireless connection up with wicd?
[00:57] <VBoxUbuntuUser> <--running around poking people with a pin to check
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> OrcD3vil: well make sure, use tab completion
[00:58] <alec868> peter: could downloading HAL via synaptic help my touch pad problems?
[00:58] <Brandano> roshank: I suggest you look up medibuntu on google
[00:58] <snuitje> !medibuntu
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> !ndiswrapper | KrispyKreme
[00:58] <roshank> has anyone been able to playback commercial dvd's? i tried installing libdvdread and libdvdcss3 or something but still no luck
[00:58] <n8tuser> Skyfury -> i dont use wicd, but what is the issue you are having?
[00:58] <KrispyKreme> ActionParsnip: I don't really get what they're saying
[00:58] <Brandano> roshank: works fine with VLC for me
[00:58] <ring0> does anyone know a tool to display the actual up- and downspeed in realtime in the console?
[00:58] <KrispyKreme> then can you help me with this ActionParsnip? I want to listen to music that is on a NTFS partition. how do i do that?
[00:59] <tieTYT2> i'm using the kubuntu live cd.  How can I format the HD to NTFS?
[00:59] <ac> can anyone help with configuring thinkpad function keys?
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs-3g | KrispyKreme
[00:59] <Skyfury> n8tuser: i dont really know, treid to connect via networkmanager / fail - now via wicd / fail also - but i can connect to the network?!
[00:59] <Brandano> tieTYT: the question, rather than how, is why?
[00:59] <standarshy> ActionParsnip, How do I change the permisssions so I can edit the fstab
[00:59] <Brandano> in any case you need ntfs-3g
[00:59] <roshank> Brandano: for me it plays fine for most, but the title1 (the movie itself) it hardly plays. when i play it in vlc there is no video output and after a few moments of playing like that from any spot, then there is video output which is jerky and looks scrambled
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: for screen res I always edit xorg.conf
[00:59] <OrcD3vil> ActionParsnip: hmm it won't even let me go past ./configure I try the make depend && make and it errors out
[00:59] <n8tuser> Skyfury -> you are connected now right and chatting?
[00:59] <tieTYT2> because i'm reading on forums that you can't install xp unless NTFS is on the primary partition
[00:59] <Skyfury> n8tuser: yes via cable
[01:00] <Brandano> roshank: that might be a problem with the hardware rather than the software
[01:00] <node357> what the heck, I get no sound in Firefox
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: or add a script to set it in ~/.fluxbox/startup
[01:00] <n8tuser> Skyfury -> so i dont know what you considered failure then if you are able to chat now..
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> OrcD3vil: do you have build-essential installed?
[01:00] <tieTYT2> so how do I do it?
[01:00] <Brandano> roshank: some DVD's copy protection relies on the reader blindly following seek instructions to skip bad sectors
[01:00] <snuitje> Brandano: if it gets "scrambled" after a while it's usually a corrupted stream
[01:00] <Skyfury> n8tuser: err i need my wireless connection, thats my only problem
[01:00] <OrcD3vil> ActionParsnip: guess not lol
[01:00] <seede> hi all, im looking for help with the find command, have read around a bit but cant find my answer
[01:01] <Brandano> roshank: unfortunately most computer drives try to read the file structure as first thing
[01:01] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip: what is the command to open xorg.conf? to edit it
[01:01] <roshank> Brandano: ok so there's no fix for this?
[01:01] <seede> i want to search my config files for a string which could be anywhere
[01:01] <justizin> so, again, anyone with an idea of how to get bluez to forget something which failed to pair?
[01:01] <snuitje> grep -R string /etc
[01:01] <Skyfury> n8tuser: shall i paste you some ifconfig / iwconfig or something?
[01:01] <seede> using the command find / -path /lib -prune -o -path /dev -prune -o -path /proc -prune -o -path /home -prune -o -exec grep -RH stringtofind {} \;
[01:01] <n8tuser> Skyfury -> dont try to have both wireless and ethernet active at same time unless you know how to figure out your route table
[01:01] <Brandano> roshank: if THAT is the issue, nothing short than a different reader bios
[01:01] <seede> but it searchs /lib nonetheless
[01:01] <OrcD3vil> thiebaude: try gedit xorg.conf when you in the dir
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_old; gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:01] <thiebaude> thanks
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: the first bit makes a backup copy so you can roll back ;)
[01:02] <roshank> Brandano: but I'm able to watch movies in windows
[01:02] <chad1> Does anyone know when the 177.82 nvidia driver will appear in the ubuntu repos? They lag so far behind some times on driver releases.  Should i just install it myself and skip waiting fort the repo?
[01:02] <Brandano> roshank: ok, that means my theory is wrong :)
[01:02] <Illuzionz> how can i turn everything slightly "outzoomed, so i can have more windows @ my desktop
[01:02] <Skyfury> n8tuser: yes i know i can deactivate it before i try to connect with my wireless - wicd also tells me "connected" but im not able to ping my router
[01:02] <n8tuser> Skyfury -> so 1st you must decide, ethernet or wireless (one at a time)
[01:02] <Brandano> roshank: which incidentally is lucky for you
[01:03] <Brandano> roshank: have you tried using VLC?
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: or if yuo add a script to run the xandr command
[01:03] <Skyfury> n8tuser: yeh i read a lot in the forums & google - but nothing worked for me to get this wlan0 working correctly
[01:03] <roshank> Brandano: yeah i guess. still need to find a solution. btw you wouldnt happen to know anything about alsa/pulse audio would you?
[01:03] <standarshy> ActionParsnip, how can I check what the UID is?  I'm not sure what do delete]\
[01:03] <itai_michaelson> can anyone help me run an application in another language?
[01:03] <n8tuser> Skyfury -> which chip does your wifi card have?
[01:03] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip: yea, i dont anything about scripts
[01:03] <Brandano> tieTYT: the simplest way is to install windows first
[01:04] <dmulholland> hey, does anyone in here know how to easily cut the border added to pdf output from programs like excel 07? sadly I dont have access to acrobat professional or illustrator
[01:04] <snuitje> itai_michaelson: #gettext
[01:04] <getxsick> what dim in power-managment is?
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: you need a file with: #!/bin/bash at the top
[01:04] <standarshy> ActionParsnip, can I message you?
[01:04] <thiebaude> everytime i log into fluxbox i have to xrandr -s 800x600 -r 85
[01:04] <snuitje> itai_michaelson: or just open language manager and install the language packages if thats what you want
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: then the xandr command you use underneath
[01:04] <Brandano> getxsick: I assume it dims the back lighting onj LCD panels
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> standarshy: sure
[01:05] <Skyfury> n8tuser: Belkin F5D6050 802.11b Adapter
[01:05] <getxsick> Brandano: ah, i didn't know that it's a verb ;) i thought that it's kind of shortcut ;)
[01:05] <KrispyKreme_> ActionParsnip: It still says it failed. what now?
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: then the script wil have that on the second line, save the file then chmod u+x it, yuo now have a script
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> KrispyKreme_: what failed?
[01:06] <Brandano> getxsick: can be an adjective too, though not a very flattering one :)
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> !uid
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> !uuid
[01:06] <KrispyKreme_> ActionParsnip: it still says I am not priviledged to mount this volume. do i need to be root?
[01:06] <snuitje> !ubuntu | dmulholland
[01:07] <Brandano> KrispyKreme_: either that, or you should be rich
[01:07] <Brandano> KrispyKreme_: probably root owns the mountpoint
[01:07] <PsiKloPx> I have the latest nvidea driver installed, apparently correctly according the Nvidia Settings, but I'm having some issues with my display. For one thing, buttons (minimize, maximize, close) just show up as gray boxes until I move my mouse over them.  And the animations seem a little jerky.  Video plays great. Any ideas?
[01:07] <Brandano> or it's in the fstab
[01:07] <getxsick> can anyone help me with remaping Menu key into Control? i tried xmodmap -e
[01:08] <tieTYT2> the kubuntu live cd keeps on restarted kde
[01:08] <Brandano> PsiKloPx: try disabling flipping
[01:08] <getxsick> xmodmap -e "keycode 117 = Control_R"
[01:08] <KrispyKreme_> how do you get out of root?
[01:08] <tieTYT2> while i'm using gparted
[01:08] <getxsick> under xev works, nothing else
[01:08] <Brandano> PsiKloPx: seems to fix most of these issues
[01:08] <Flannel> KrispyKreme_: How are you "in root"?
[01:08] <KrispyKreme_> sudo -s
[01:08] <dmulholland> snuitje, im trying to do it in ubuntu thanks!
[01:08] <Brandano> try "exit"
[01:08] <KrispyKreme_> :D
[01:09] <snuitje> dmulholland: you're running excel2007 under ubuntu?
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> KrispyKreme_: only root can mount
[01:09] <Brandano> ActionParsnip: not sure...
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> KrispyKreme_: press up cursor, home, then type sudo ;)
[01:09] <PsiKloPx> Brandano: thanx - one more thing.  I set up to have four desktops which works fine until reboot.  Then there are only two.
[01:10] <KrispyKreme_> I was root, and It didn't mount.. ActionParsnip
[01:10] <Brandano> PsiKloPx: Ah, don't know about that
[01:10] <dmulholland> snuitje, no, i made the pdf in excel 2007 on my windows machine but I want to cut the border off the pdf to use within a latex document made in ubuntu
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> KrispyKreme_: can you give me your mount command
[01:10] <Brandano> PsiKloPx: what kind of extended desktop are you using? I assume you are using compiz
[01:10] <snuitje> ohes
[01:11] <KrispyKreme_> ... ActionParsnip
[01:11] <KrispyKreme_> I just went to "places" then my media
[01:11] <onats> hello. is the issue on the nvidia card already resolved?
[01:11] <Llanowyn|backin5> DasEi1:  Are you still around?
[01:11] <PsiKloPx> Brandano: by flipping you mean the "Flip Switch" - the alt-tab swapper?
[01:11] <Brandano> PsiKloPx: in that case there's a package that allows you to fine-tune a lot of compiz settings, included the number of desktops
[01:12] <snuitje> dmulholland: i just open pdf files in openoffice.org 3.0, there are some pretty advanced postscript tools around, but i don't like the output of pdf2ps
[01:12] <Alex_Gaynor> I just had a kernel panic and i'm now at a root shell, what can I do to diagnose it?
[01:12] <Brandano> PsiKloPx: nope, System>Administration>Nvidia X Server Settings>OpenGL settings
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> KrispyKreme_: so you didnt use a terminal command?
[01:12] <ART> ls
[01:13] <KrispyKreme_> no i did not. ActionParsnip
[01:13] <Brandano> PsiKloPx: uncheck "allow flipping"
[01:13] <fer_factor> where i can finda the driver of this webcam Bus 003 Device 002: ID 054c:0107 Sony Corp. VCC-U01 Visual Communication Camera
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> KrispyKreme_: id give that a go instead, yuo 'll probably find its more successful
[01:13] <KrispyKreme_> ActionParsnip: this is my info for the partition though. /dev/sda2            9479       14593    41086237+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[01:13] <ExecutiveOrder> can i make a little table inside my index.html that looks like the apache directory listing so people know all the sites directories
[01:14] <KrispyKreme_> and i'm looking at the manual way. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G
[01:14] <ART> my minicom don't show message ,why?pls
[01:14] <dmulholland> snuitje, which openoffice prog?
[01:14] <snuitje> dmulholland: any, it'll open in draw though
[01:14] <Skyfury> n8tuser: still there?
[01:14] <zigovr3> hi all, any idea, why when with aptitude I mark some package to be "frozen", it still tries to update them ?
[01:14] <dmulholland> snuitje, thanks for that
[01:14] <Brandano> fer_ first google hit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=289836&highlight=vaio+sz+camera&page=6
[01:14] <kalamari> hello all, is there a way to rollback updates?
[01:14] <zigovr3> (with apt-get upgrade for example)
[01:14] <Brandano> fer_factor: not sure it's a solution, but looks like it
[01:14] <PsiKloPx> thanx!
[01:15] <Alex_Gaynor> Anyone on how to diagnose a kernel panic, I've been getting them a ton today for some reason, I don't think it's a hardwaer issue, since I'm fine under windows, they just started happening this afternoon, I haven't changed any settings that I can think of other than a few audio settings
[01:15] <Brandano> PsiKloPx: does it work?
[01:15] <justizin> kalamari: possibly with LVM snapshots, something you'd have to try up front.
[01:15] <ellomoto> does anyone know the ecact time this game will launch
[01:15] <Brandano> apparently yes
[01:15] <ellomoto> when will this game be public
[01:15] <justizin> Alex_Gaynor: Windows puts up with a lot of hardware inadequacy that Linux won't, Linux may be telling you that Windows problems are around the corner.  This sort of situation was very common when Linux first gained popularity.
[01:15] <kalamari> are lvm snapshots taken automatically?
[01:16] <justizin> kalamari: no, you have to set up your volumes to use LVM, and then take snapshots before you make major changes.
[01:16] <fer_factor> Brandano, well, i'm trying to fix a Sony PCG-TR1F but this lap don't have audio, i see that the audio driver is installed, and the webcam doesn't works}
[01:16] <justizin> you could always hire someone smart to handle the whole process for you ;)
[01:16] <ellomoto> DOES ANYONE KNOW WHEN THIS GAME WILL BE AVAIABLE
[01:16] <Alex_Gaynor> justizin: That being said, what can I do to daignose the issue(if it's a hardware one it's literally sprung up over night)
[01:16] <justizin> ellomoto: i'm not sure you are on topic, and you're assuming in what you yell that we've read your previous messages..
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> KrispyKreme_: sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[01:16] <Brandano> ellomoto: it will be available in a couple of weeks
[01:16] <kalamari> justizin: whoops oh well there goes my box
[01:16] <ellomoto> rlly....
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> !caps | ellomoto
[01:16] <KrispyKreme_> ActionParsnip: yeah, i did that
[01:16] <ellomoto> sorry....
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> KrispyKreme_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[01:17]  * Brandano has no idea what ellomoto is talking about, but doesn't want to delude him
[01:17] <justizin> Alex_Gaynor: well, it's not easy.  To be scientific, you'd spend a day or so using the computer with each of and only one component swapped at a time..  also it's expensive to have a spare of everything..
[01:17] <KrispyKreme_> ActionParsnip: this is that "error" i get. $LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)
[01:17] <KrispyKreme_> Failed to mount '/dev/sda2': Operation not supported
[01:17] <KrispyKreme_> Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action:
[01:17] <kalamari> justizin: i have an older image of the drive.. i guess i will restore from that image
[01:17] <KrispyKreme_> Choice 1: If you have Windows then disconnect the external devices by
[01:17] <KrispyKreme_>           clicking on the 'Safely Remove Hardware' icon in the Windows
[01:17] <FloodBot3> KrispyKreme_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:17] <KrispyKreme_>           taskbar then shutdown Windows cleanly.
[01:17] <justizin> what kind of kernel panic are you getting? any new software or recent upgrades?
[01:17] <ellomoto> im just very exited about the game......sorry i shouted...
[01:17] <ellomoto> brb
[01:17] <Alex_Gaynor> justizin: no changed, other than the enviroment I guess(just got home last night), I'm at the root shell on taht machine now, right aftera  panic
[01:17] <justizin> kalamari: yah if you use LVM snapshots you may be able to wrangle a downgrade by snapshotting just before upgrade.  also, if you have a provider or can run your own iSCSI..
[01:18] <Brandano> What game is he talking about?
[01:18] <vancomycin> ActionParsnip, / an xvid mpeg-4 file for example / these use to play in older builds, using 8.10 now with nvidia accelerated graphics driver 177 - activated / this same file plays in mplayer , but this ALSA error keeps flashing in the middle of the screen very fast, sorry i see your hands are FULL! :)
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> KrispyKreme_: you can use --force but if this is a usb drive and its been plugged into a windows pc, plug it back in and cleanly remove it (rather than just ragging it out of the system)
[01:18] <justizin> Brendano: i think he's talking about rochambeau
[01:19] <Brandano> Which brings me to the original "why use NTFS in the firs place?
[01:19] <Brandano> justin_: I think I know that one. I'll only play if I go first
[01:19] <kalamari> justizin: i think im going to restore a partition and start doing lvm snapshots before i update anything. thanks for the help
[01:19] <Brandano> oops
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> vancomycin: id check your sound option in mplayer
[01:19] <justizin> Brandano: same reason we don't like to install Windows on FAT, because it stinks? ;d
[01:19] <DasEi1> Llanowyn: yes, back
[01:19] <justizin> kalamari: yah we enjoy iSCSI, which I haven't been using enough to provide for rollbacks, but i also have a VM hosting provider that allows us to make snapshots.
[01:20] <Brandano> justizin: there's ext3 drivers for windows
[01:20] <Brandano> and they load in user space
[01:20] <justizin> Brandano: suppose it depends on what the goal of cross platform sharing is..
[01:20] <snuitje> ellomoto: sauerbraten has been out for some time now =)
[01:20] <BIG-D> hey can someone help me with ubuntu?
[01:20] <juancarlospaco> what happend big?
[01:20] <ssmy_> BIG-D: ask the question =)
[01:20] <justizin> i don't use ext* on my linux either, so i'd say NTFS makes as much sense as XFS, but if it were a PC with dual-boot, I might use FAT for a data partition full of mp3s and download files and whatnot..
[01:21] <snuitje> bleh
[01:21] <Brandano> or just use the network
[01:21] <led> I was wondering I have this slient sound issue when I try to make the defualt device to tune up the sound with the volume control. I am talking about change it from master to headphone it wont let me  its stuck on master. Is there a way to change this?
[01:21] <BIG-D> every time i download and burn it to a cd i check it to make sure there is no errors with the cd and everytime there is one
[01:21] <led> sorry for all the typos
[01:21] <vancomycin> ActionParsnip, okay, but that doesn't solve the video not showing up in vlc player - i even tried something from the forum suggestion tools >preferences > video > output > x11 video output / i checked if there were any broken installs in the package filters - nothing showed up, also installed the unrestricted-extras
[01:21] <snuitje> try the usb stick method
[01:22] <node357> how do I get sound with Flash in Firefox ?
[01:22] <Skyfury> trying to get wifi working / wicd shows up my network offered by my router / seems my usb wifi is working / after connect im not able to ping my router nor anything else besides me. any suggestions?
[01:22] <juancarlospaco> BIG-D, Burn it in SLOW apeed
[01:22] <BIG-D> i did it at x8
[01:22] <BIG-D> still errors
[01:22] <snuitje> are the cdr disks branded?
[01:22] <juancarlospaco> BIG-D, Download it in Ubuntu, not in Windoze
[01:22] <snuitje> lol
[01:22] <Brandano> BIG-D: how old is the burner? an dhow cheap the disks?
[01:22] <ssmy_> BIG-D: yeah, check the download to be sure it is correct first.
[01:23] <BIG-D> a few months old
[01:23] <snuitje> i always get tdk those never fail*
[01:23] <juancarlospaco> BIG-D, check the Filesize of the ISO
[01:23] <Brandano> unbranded CD's will shorten the life of your CD burner
[01:23] <node357> how do I get sound with Flash in Firefox ?
[01:23] <justizin> so, anyone familiar with bluez and bluetooth pairing? something failed to pair and now it won't try, as if it's stored an empty passcode.  can i delete a file or something?
[01:23] <snuitje> Brandano: ???
[01:23] <juancarlospaco> BIG-D, if its OK check the MD5Sum
[01:23] <Brandano> snuitje: I know it sounds odd, but it's true
[01:24] <BIG-D> i have no idea what that is
[01:24] <BIG-D> lol
[01:24] <Brandano> the media support tells the drive what power level to use on the laser
[01:24] <kalamari> justizin: question, i've used ddrescue to clone a drive, does it do single partitions also?
[01:24] <snuitje> Brandano: my hp burner still works :)
[01:24] <TuxSympathiser> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371025 this bug is still present, does anyone else not find this astonishing?
[01:24] <node357> !flash
[01:24] <juancarlospaco> BIG-D, me too, LOL, but instructions are in the Ubuntu website
[01:24] <snuitje> Brandano: scsi, 8x, old, but works and has had a lot of unbranded crap in it
[01:24] <BellinXFelon> i have a question
[01:24] <Skyfury> trying to get wifi working / wicd shows up my network offered by my router / seems my usb wifi is working / after connect im not able to ping my router nor anything else besides me. help would be awesome
[01:24] <Brandano> snuitje: because you probably found only good disks. However, most cheap disks , in order to burn reliably at higher speeds, tell the drive to use high power
[01:25] <led> I was wondering I have this slient sound issue when I try to make the defualt device to tune up the sound with the volume control. I am talking about change it from master to headphone it wont let me  its stuck on master. Is there a way to change this?
[01:25] <BIG-D> ahh... this is making me not want to switch..... its wierd it boots from the cd fine
[01:25] <Brandano> and with time the laser diodes just lose brightenss
[01:25] <node357> how do I get sound in Flash ?
[01:25] <n8tuser> Skyfury -> which chip does your wifi card have?
[01:25] <BellinXFelon> i have a canon mx310 series fax, scan, print, and i cant get it to print, im running hardy heron, it recognizes the printer but still wont print, im new to linux
[01:25] <juancarlospaco> BIG-D,  install it in a Virtualbox
[01:25] <Skyfury> n8tuser: i told you  - Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0d5c:a002 Belkin F5D6050 802.11b Adapter
[01:26] <Brandano> node357: changes pretty much with every version. Using Pulse?
[01:26] <juancarlospaco> BIG-D, maybe the burner write OK, fails to read
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> vancomycin: i'd websearch fro the error you are being shown
[01:26] <n8tuser> Skyfury -> missed it,
[01:26] <mezquitale> anyone here ever used ubuntu as a Primary Domain Controller to store logins and passwords?  I am trying to figure out what best way to do it but with using encryption, I am thinking about using LDAP, I am tryint to find out the steps required to do that, I can figure out the details
[01:26] <node357> Brandano, I have no idea if I'm using pulse or not
[01:26] <snuitje> Brandano: weird though, that some cd drives outlive newer units by *FAR* by that i mean *years*
[01:26] <BIG-D> ill try
[01:26] <Brandano> node357:  on 8.10 it worked fine for me straight out of the box
[01:27] <Brandano> snuitje: because they are slow, so they can use lower power
[01:27] <juancarlospaco> BIG-D, in a Virtualbox you can try to install from ISO and from Burned CD
[01:27] <n8tuser> Skyfury -> do you have the driver for that usb wifi loaded?
[01:27] <Brandano> slower speed means more time on the single disk pit
[01:27] <node357> thanks Brandano
[01:27] <snuitje> Brandano: allright, i also think nec has to do with it
[01:27] <Brandano> node357: magically started working?
[01:27] <Skyfury> n8tuser: no problem, this chip is supported since feitsy fawn
[01:28] <Skyfury> n8tuser: yes driver is loaded, otherewise i would not be able to scan the wifi nets
[01:28] <juancarlospaco> i leave, see yaa, chau
[01:28]  * Brandano hopes the guy that just joined isn't the Italian Prime Minister
[01:28] <node357> Brandano, I changed the sound preferences to ALSA
[01:28] <Brandano> in that case I apologize in advance
[01:29] <B0BBY2> Hello People.
[01:29] <node357> hah
[01:29] <node357> hi
[01:29] <roshank> has anyone been able to get their mic working in skype?
[01:29] <Llanowyn> DasEi1:  I figured out my problem, if you're still around.
[01:29] <Brandano> node357: and it works now?
[01:29] <B0BBY2> is there a method to upgrade a package without upgrade the entire system?
[01:29] <meestahp> Hello
[01:29] <DasEi1> Llanowyn: I am
[01:29] <snuitje> BOBBY2: apt-get install <package>
[01:29] <B0BBY2> when I do sudo apt-get upgrade brasero it starts upgrading everything.
[01:29] <n8tuser> Skyfury -> do you get an ip address assigned to that wlan0 ?
[01:29] <Brandano> node357: in that case it ought to work fine with the default pulse if you add sinks to pulse on the alsa config files
[01:29] <B0BBY2> snuitje: ok, cool reinstalling will just get the new package?
[01:30] <snuitje> installing will make sure you have the best "candidate"
[01:30] <Skyfury> n8tuser: yes the device is static configure
[01:30] <node357> ugh I have no idea how to do that
[01:30] <Skyfury> *configured
[01:30] <Llanowyn> DasEi1:  I ran the memtest86+ utility on my install dvd, and it's throwing a stream of errors at me.  I believe this means I have some bad ram.  Do you know of anything that I can do to fix the errors?
[01:30] <DasEi1> BOBBY2:just do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:30] <snuitje> it wont reinstall unless you specify --reinstall
[01:30] <B0BBY2> snuitje: cool. thanks. :)
[01:30] <B0BBY2> snuitje: ok.
[01:30] <n8tuser> Skyfury -> why did you use a static ip for your wifi? you dislike the dhcp address it gets?
[01:31] <DasEi1> Llanowyn: more then one stripe (ram)?
[01:31] <Brandano> didn't know wifi could use static ip's
[01:31] <Brandano> I assumed dhcp was the default on access points
[01:31] <Skyfury> n8tuser: yes cause of port forwarding on router
[01:31] <tensei> Where would I find the load audio files for ubuntu 8.04?
[01:31] <KrispyKreme> I still need help on intrepid. I have 5007eg Brandano
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> Brandano: any network interface can use static ip
[01:31] <Skyfury> n8tuser: anyway for dhcp its the same
[01:32] <TuxSympathiser> I am having difficulty setting permissions of files within a folder
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> Brandano: it is but if you set static then no dhcp discovery will take place
[01:32] <TuxSympathiser> when I click the button set permissions within folder it does nothing?
[01:32] <n8tuser> Skyfury -> what about the route -n  can you post this in pastebin, including /etc/network/interfaces file
[01:32] <Llanowyn> DasEi1:  I'm not sure how to tell?
[01:32] <Brandano> Well, I like to have DHCP on my net, so I jus reserve a few IP's on the router for specific mac addresses
[01:32] <Skyfury> n8tuser: sure i can gimme a sec
[01:32] <KrispyKreme> I still need help on intrepid. I have 5007eg
[01:33] <MaT-dg> is there a way to change the 'resolution' of the console-environtment (ctrl-alt-F1) ?
[01:33] <tensei> Does anyone know where the load audio files in 8.04 are?
[01:33] <Brandano> what is 5007egf?
[01:33] <KrispyKreme> I still need help with wifi on intrepid. I have 5007eg.
[01:33] <leoechevarria> hi there
[01:33] <KrispyKreme> sorry about that
[01:33] <KrispyKreme> I still need help with wifi on intrepid. I have 5007eg. Brandano
[01:33] <DasEi1> Llanowyn: lshw or -more advanced- sudo hwinfo
[01:33] <Brandano> that the name of the card?
[01:33] <roshank> Brandano: for my volume control function of ALSA i can see the front mic option and that seems to be able to be what caontrols my mic's input, however in skype when i'm trying to use my mic the options for sound in are HDA Intel (hw:intel,0), HDA Intel (hw:intel, 1), HDA Intel (hw:intel,2), HDA Intel (hw:intel,6) as well as HDA Intel (plughw:intel,0) for all of those, and pulse hdmi etc. neither of them seems to be working an
[01:33] <roshank> d when i test i cant hear
[01:33] <vancomycin> ActionParsnip, thats what i've been doing the last 3 some hours ;/ just frustrated - feel like going back to 8.04
[01:33] <noriyuki> Hi everyone, I modified the menu.lst (boot loader) and accidentally I erased the one that loads windows can anyone write it to me here so I can copy and paste into the boot loader list?
[01:33] <n8tuser> KrispyKreme -> what chip does your wifi have?
[01:34] <dr_willis> MaT-dg,  enable the framebuffer - and then you can set the default mode as a kernel menu.lst option or change it with fbset command.
[01:34] <kurap> hey peeps, what file holds all the packages installed on an ubuntu system? I have a backup from a system, and want to get the packages installed on this other PC
[01:34] <DasEi1> Llanowyn: there check for banks 0,1,2 and so on, or look at bootup or open case :D
[01:34] <snuitje> tensei: what do you mean?
[01:34] <KrispyKreme> it's the 5007eg
[01:34] <LjL> !cloning | kurap
[01:34] <leoechevarria> just a question: i made my usb stick booteable with intrepid, but it can't find the kernel image. I've looked at syslinux.cfg, and it has just 5 lines, is it common? how do you think i could solve this kind of problem? thanks
[01:34] <KrispyKreme> n8tuser:
[01:34] <Brandano> roshank: sorry, skype cares me, I won't touch that... brr
[01:34] <Brandano> *scares
[01:34] <KrispyKreme> I still need help with wifi on intrepid. I have atheros 5007eg. n8tuser
[01:34] <Llanowyn> DasEi1:  That won't really help me as I'm not able to get into an operating system to run commands.
[01:34] <n8tuser> KrispyKreme -> what chip does your wifi have?  5007eg by whome?
[01:34] <KrispyKreme> I still need help with wifi on intrepid. I have atheros 5007eg. Brandano
[01:34] <kurap> ljl: the system is down, i can't do that
[01:34] <KrispyKreme> there.
[01:34] <snuitje> tensei: try locate -r wav$
[01:35] <DasEi1> Llanowyn: live cd, or look in bios, 4th possibility
[01:35] <kurap> ljl: by down i mean, went up in flames.... i just have a backup of the file system
[01:35] <roshank> BrandanoL ok well can you help me with pulse audio? when i installed the pulse audio manager and i view the volume meter for the mic its the wrong source how would i change it?
[01:35] <tensei> snuitje: I want to change the .wav file it plays when I log in, how do I do that?
[01:35] <n8tuser> KrispyKreme -> you have the driver ath* loaded?
[01:35] <dr_willis>  leoechevarria  my lernel on the thumbdrive is in /casper/vmlinuz and i must have 2 dozen+ files on the thumbdrive
[01:35] <n8tuser> KrispyKreme -> what have you done to troubleshoot?
[01:35] <KrispyKreme> n8tuser: how do i check?
[01:35] <roshank> Brandano: and to what? It shows up as front mic in the volume control, under ALSA
[01:35] <led> ?
[01:35] <GodfatherofEire> Any ideas on why removing Pulseaudio in 8.10 causes me to be unable to log in?
[01:35] <snuitje> tensei: ohh system -> preferences -> sound
[01:35] <led> I was wondering I have this slient sound issue when I try to make the defualt device to tune up the sound with the volume control. I am talking about change it from master to headphone it wont let me  its stuck on master. Is there a way to change this?
[01:35] <n8tuser> !wifi | KrispyKreme
[01:35] <Brandano> KrispyKreme: this seems recent enough: http://atylmo.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/atheros-5007eg-on-ubuntu-using-ndiswrappe/
[01:35] <soylentpink> can someone tell me how to fix an HTML rendering problem in firefox?
[01:36] <KrispyKreme> n8tuser: I have already disabled the atheros card and I have been on that link
[01:36] <snuitje> tensei: then select the 'sounds' ta
[01:36] <snuitje> +b
[01:36] <DasEi1> Llanowyn: the idea is to remove the faulty one, but for a halfway convient installation you'll need 256 mb (less works, too, but it take time, then)
[01:36] <leoechevarria> dr_willis: i'm sorry but i don't find the relation between what you've just said and my problem
[01:36] <janu> do you have wireless driver for ubuntu?
[01:36] <kurap> LjL: any ideas?
[01:36] <n8tuser> KrispyKreme -> see Brandano's link
[01:36] <KrispyKreme> let me check it out n8tuser . thanks Brandano
[01:36] <tensei> snuitje: Thank you,
[01:36] <DasEi1> !wireless | janu
 just a question: i made my usb stick booteable with intrepid, but it can't find the kernel image.     - its on the thumbdrive in the casper directory here.
[01:36] <Brandano> roshank: I don't think skype goes through the alsa drivers
[01:36] <crimsun> GodfatherofEire: likely the lingering pulseaudio file in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/
[01:36] <Brandano> roshank: I think it tries to access the hardware directly
[01:37] <LjL> kurap: not sure. i know what file contains a list, but i wouldn't know how to parse it
[01:37] <crimsun> GodfatherofEire: make sure you remove it, too
[01:37] <crimsun> GodfatherofEire: (it's a known bug)
[01:37] <soylentpink> firfox is cutting off the right inch of my webpage, help???
[01:37] <kurap> LjL, what file? I'm good with sed/awk
[01:37] <GodfatherofEire> crimsun, thanks
[01:37] <roshank> Brandano: could you help me fix the pulse audio issue though? it's using wrong source for mic
[01:37] <LjL> kurap: /var/lib/dpkg/status
[01:37] <leoechevarria> dr_willis: it's not that I can't find the kernel image, that's the error message i get when i try to boot with my usb stick
[01:37] <Skyfury> n8tuser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77271/
[01:37] <soylentpink> ﻿firfox is cutting off the right inch of my webpage, help???
[01:37] <snuitje> roshank: gnome-sound-properties ?
[01:37] <Brandano> roshank: I really ought to get some sleep
[01:38] <roshank> Brandano: ok sorry. goodnigt
[01:38] <Brandano> it's 2:38 AM here
[01:38] <snuitje> Brandano: me2 :/
[01:38] <snuitje> same here
[01:38] <dr_willis> leoechevarria,  :) now  thats a bit more clear...   Ive had issues with some thumbdrives and some machines in the past.. due to how they handle the booting from thumbdrives.. got a few thumbdrives taht i jsut cant make bootable. :(
[01:38] <Brandano> goodnight everyone, and thanks
[01:38] <soylentpink> ﻿firfox is cutting off the right inch of my webpage, help???
[01:38] <snuitje> brandano, ljl, others, goodnight have fun buhbye ./
[01:38] <leoechevarria> dr_willis: i think it's not the first pendrive i try with, and i've also tried with parted magic
[01:38] <dr_willis> soylentpink,  try the page in Opera - it look ok?
[01:38] <leoechevarria> anyway, it may be my pc
[01:39] <andymd> soylentpink, It's a bug in some pages
[01:39] <soylentpink> ill have to download opera
[01:39] <dr_willis> leoechevarria,  yep.. it can be rather.. 'random' as to what pcs work and what ones dont.
[01:39] <leoechevarria> opera ain't free, try epiphany
[01:39] <leoechevarria> >.<
[01:39] <dr_willis> Opera is a free download.
[01:39] <kurap> LjL: thanks so much!
[01:40] <leoechevarria> dr_willis: i mean it's not free... free as in free speech, not free as in free beer
[01:40] <leoechevarria> dr_willis: how long is your syslinux.cfg in your usb?
[01:40] <dr_willis> leoechevarria,  but you were not clear. :)
[01:40] <recon61> since when has beer been free?
[01:40] <dr_willis> leoechevarria,  on windows.. so its ONE long line in notepad.exe.. i notice its including a lot of other files.. the whole boot menu layout is a bit overly complex..
[01:40] <leoechevarria> dr_willis: i'm argentinian, where free for 'free as in free speech' and free for 'free as in free beer' are different words
[01:40] <meestahp> I understood it... Just dont thinks newbs would
[01:41] <meestahp> Gratis / libre right?
[01:41] <leoechevarria> right right :D
[01:41] <crimsun> roshank: are you using 8.10 with intrepid-proposed and intrepid-updates components enabled?
[01:41] <leoechevarria> you should separate those concepts in english :p
[01:41] <dr_willis> Gratis = 'a favor'  a gift,
[01:42] <dr_willis> as in a tip being a gratuity
[01:42] <meestahp> Gratis essentially means the same in english
[01:42] <roshank> crimsun: what are the intrepid proposed? i do all updates i see
[01:42] <KrispyKreme> n8tuser: what is sudo ndisgtk
[01:42] <leoechevarria> dr_willis: not exactly, gratis is Free of cost
[01:42] <KrispyKreme> it's not a valid command n8tuser
[01:42] <leoechevarria> free of charge
[01:43] <node357> xchat crashed.
[01:43] <crimsun> roshank: System> Administration> Software Sources> Updates> Pre-released updates
[01:43] <meestahp> I'm pretty sure it can be used the same way in english
[01:43] <dr_willis> leoechevarria,  then the term for a tip being a gratuity makes no sence.. :) but its all from latin i imagine and subjet to years of language creep.
[01:43] <KrispyKreme> anyone know what ndisgtk is?
[01:43] <dr_willis> Latin 101 :)
[01:43] <leoechevarria> dr_willis: i've done the usb stick booteable again but this time from debian with unetbootin, and system.cfg seems to have the necessary information now :)
[01:43] <KrispyKreme> sudo ndisgth
[01:43] <KrispyKreme> *
[01:43] <crimsun> KrispyKreme: a GTK+ interface for ndiswrapper.
[01:44] <dr_willis> leoechevarria,  ive had some sticks.. once i GET them bootable.. the the other os's where able to install to them and be bootable afterwards.. not sure why that was.
[01:44] <KrispyKreme> crimsun: it's doesn't show up though
[01:44] <Heooo> When is "GNU screen" useful? Collaboration? Irssi? something else?
[01:44] <dr_willis> Heooo,  yes.. to all the above
[01:44] <dr_willis> Heooo,  you can run  apps and they stay running after you logout also.
[01:44] <crimsun> KrispyKreme: what doesn't show up?
[01:44] <roshank> crimsun: ok i've enabled it and see a whole bunch of updates to do. i'll do the updates
[01:44] <KrispyKreme> sudo: ndisgtk: command not found crimsun
[01:45] <Skyfury> n8tuser: recived my message?
[01:45] <KrispyKreme> i installed ndiswrapper
[01:45] <crimsun> KrispyKreme: gksu /usr/sbin/ndisgtk
[01:46] <Tyrath> hey people
[01:46] <jesusfreak> hey...can somebody help my with something
[01:46] <Tyrath> jesusfreak: just ask
[01:46] <dr_willis> jesusfreak,  be more concise and see. :)
[01:46] <n8tuser> Skyfury -> can you also post  iwconfig   results ?
[01:46] <Tyrath> dr_willis: lol
[01:46] <crimsun> KrispyKreme: remember that /usr/sbin/ndisgtk is in the separate ndisgtk package that is not installed by default.
[01:46] <crimsun> roshank: ok, after the updates are complete, please ping me, and we'll resume
[01:47] <roshank> crimsun: ok sure
[01:47] <Tyrath> Skyfury: by that I think he means pastebin ;)
[01:47] <KrispyKreme> crimsun: I just input gksu /usr/sbin/ndisgtk into terminal. nothing happened
[01:47] <jesusfreak> I can't figure out how to configure my proxy on Firefox...I've got the same browser on Windows on the other boot (Im dual booting) and it works fine
[01:47] <Skyfury> n8tuser: yeah i will, just a sec
[01:47] <Tyrath> jesusfreak: SET HTTP_PROXY
[01:47] <Tyrath> jesusfreak: - from shell
[01:47] <crimsun> KrispyKreme: any reason you're attempting to use that method?
[01:47] <jesusfreak> how do I do that?
[01:47] <KMandla> Buenos dias.
[01:48] <jesusfreak> Im a nube, sorry
[01:48] <LjL> !es | KMandla
[01:48] <KrispyKreme> crimsun: what?
[01:48] <Tyrath> jesusfreak: do you know how to open up a terminal?
[01:48] <KrispyKreme> I don't get that
[01:48] <jesusfreak> yeah
[01:48] <Heooo> dr_willis: I don't understand. Even if I turn off my computer, the application will stay on? So I can use for firefox, Mathematica and any other application? Is it like to have the same desktop all the time?
[01:48] <crimsun> KrispyKreme: does the known-working ndiswrapper (command-line) method not work directly?
[01:48] <Skyfury> n8tuser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77272/
[01:48] <vbs221> hey how's it going?
[01:48] <shirish> does anybody what utility/software we use for partitioning when we are partitioning through the ubuntu desktop CD?
[01:48] <KrispyKreme> no it does not crimsun
[01:48] <shirish> http://news.softpedia.com/images/extra/LINUX/small/ubuntu810installation-small_007.png
[01:48] <LjL> Tyrath: actually, i thought Firefox had its own proxy configuration independent of variable... (in Edit / Preferences / Advances / Settings)
[01:49] <crimsun> KrispyKreme: where does it fail?
[01:49] <Skyfury> Tyrath: i know what a paste bin is :o
[01:49] <Tyrath> LjL: he'd still need a universal proxy tho, no?
[01:49] <dr_willis> Heooo,  No... You can remote login to a machine via ssh for example.. and run screen.. and depening on how you set it up.. you can log out.. and later relogin back in and 'reattatch'  screen ane the apps will still be running all that time.. thats a MAJOR feature of screen
[01:49] <KrispyKreme> crimsun: there's just nothing there or command not found
[01:49] <LjL> Tyrath: well, given he asked about Firefox, and AFAIK Firefox won't respect the universal setting...
[01:49] <Tyrath> Skyfury: I wasn't doubting that, I just know that some people post in the channel and get booted for it :/
[01:49] <crimsun> KrispyKreme: (I'm referring to using ndiswrapper directly, not ndisgtk, BTW)
[01:49] <Tyrath> LjL: fair enough
[01:49] <Skyfury> Tyrath: just the non topic reading lamers :\
[01:50] <LjL> Tyrath: but if i'm wrong and it does respect it, then that's probably a better choice
[01:50] <dr_willis> Heooo,  screen has little  to do with X or the 'desktop' its a terminal program. :)
[01:50] <KrispyKreme> crimsun: I used this before on Hardy. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-5007eg-with-madwifi-on-i386-platform-2.html
[01:50] <KrispyKreme> I just need that tar
[01:50] <Tyrath> jesusfreak: i'll just open gnome-desktop then I'll help you out
[01:51] <n8tuser> Skyfury -> and if you do ifconfig -a   what ip address shows up for your wlan0 ?
[01:51] <crimsun> KrispyKreme: does ath5k not work for you?
[01:51] <katze> hola
[01:51] <Pelo> !es | katze
[01:51] <leoechevarria> i'll go to see if my usb stick works with ubuntu now :)
[01:51] <leoechevarria> bytes!
[01:52] <KrispyKreme> crimsun: I don't think so. I usually use that link to set up wifi and worked all the time
[01:52] <Skyfury> n8tuser: no ip4 / just ip6 :( wait i have to disable cable and check with wlan0 up
[01:52] <KrispyKreme> but now that I have ubuntu 8.10, it's different
[01:52] <Tyrath> jesusfreak: ok on the firefox menu go to Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Network -> Settings -> Use System Proxy Settings
[01:52] <meestahp> Hey i got a question about screen, I run Xming and connect to my ubuntu box over ssh, now when I open programs they will open up on my windows box, is there any way that I can rig it so they would open on the ubuntu box?
[01:52] <DasEi1> leoechevarria: see !usb in #ubuntu, worked fine for me
[01:52] <leoechevarria> !usb
[01:52] <Tyrath> jesusfreak: then click ok
[01:52] <leoechevarria> :p
[01:53] <jesusfreak> ok
[01:53] <KrispyKreme> I just need a new .tar in     wget -c http://snapshots.madwifi.org/special/madwifi-ng-r2756+ar5007.tar.gz
[01:53] <Pelo> meestahp, export=DISPLAY:=9 && command
[01:53] <jesusfreak> done
[01:53] <Pelo> meestahp, make that 9 a 0
[01:53] <Skyfury> n8tuser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77273/ <- with wlan0 up there is my ip address correctly as it should be :\
[01:53] <n8tuser> Skyfury -> again, you have to decide, wireless or ethernet, switching it back and forth without you adjusting the route table is a receipt for failure
[01:53] <meestahp> awesome thanks!
[01:54] <dr_willis> meestahp,  You could just ssh in, and set up the DISPLAY variable, and the 'xhost' command to allow it.. and they would display on the remote..
[01:54] <Pelo> meestahp, let me correct myself again  , export DISPLAY=:0  && command here
[01:54] <Tyrath> jesusfreak: now if you open up a console/terminal (aka shell) then type SET HTTP_PROXY=<proxy address>:port - it should get you in
[01:54] <meestahp> heheheh, thanks!
[01:54] <Skyfury> n8tuser: i know i cant reboot all the time / all this steps i tried with eth0 down and a fresh booten system
[01:54] <dr_willis> meestahp,  X has some security features taht you may have to 'work around' :)
[01:54] <]{53> "receipt for failure"
[01:54] <meestahp> Been trying for a few days
[01:54] <Tyrath> jesusfreak: is the proxy user and password protected?
[01:54] <crimsun> KrispyKreme: "a new tar"?
[01:54] <n8tuser> Skyfury -> stop, decide now, wifi or ethernet?
[01:54] <KrispyKreme> can anyone find a new .tar for intrepid in this link?? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-5007eg-with-madwifi-on-i386-platform-2.html
[01:54] <]{53> I didn't know you could buy failure......
[01:55] <KrispyKreme> crimsun: I don't know what to call it
[01:55] <jesusfreak> yeah
[01:55] <Pelo> meestahp, no warranties,  you migth need to try 0, 1 , 2, and 3
[01:55] <Skyfury> n8tuser: wifi
[01:55] <KrispyKreme> a new snapshot??
[01:55] <leoechevarria> so... if you use unetbootin to create the usb booteable with ubuntu... isn't it persistent? or is it just like a livecd? can't the ubuntu usb booteable maker make it peristen?
[01:55] <leoechevarria> *t
[01:55] <Tyrath> because if it is SET HTTP_PROXY <username>@<proxy address>:<port> ; SET HTTP_PROXY_pass=<password>
[01:55] <dr_willis> leoechevarria,  unetbooting setup is NOT persistant.
[01:55] <KMandla> Anyone know of a GTK1.2 IRC application? I'm looking for something that doesn't require much graphical power to handle, but still doesn't fall back to the terminal, like irssi.
[01:55] <Tyrath> jesusfreak: because if it is SET HTTP_PROXY <username>@<proxy address>:<port> ; SET HTTP_PROXY_pass=<password>
[01:55] <dr_willis> leoechevarria,  the Ubuntu Tool. does make a peristant setup
[01:56] <leoechevarria> dr_willis: so if you need it to be persistant... you got to do it by hand
[01:56] <n8tuser> Skyfury -> okay, then disable your eth0;  and down your wlan0 then bring it back up (wlan0)
[01:56] <leoechevarria> but it doesn't work :p
[01:56] <Skyfury> n8tuser: ifconfig eth0 down (thats correct)
[01:56] <Skyfury> ?
[01:56] <KrispyKreme> can anyone find a new snapshot for intrepid in this link?? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-5007eg-with-madwifi-on-i386-platform-2.html
[01:57] <Pelo> KMandla, if you think xchat is too heavy,  look in menu > applications > add /remove , and search for irc
[01:57] <Tyrath> is there any way to interface with a DLINK router through shell rather than through the Router's generated interface?
[01:57] <Pelo> KrispyKreme, sinT' this what you want wget -c http://snapshots.madwifi.org/special/madwifi-ng-r2756+ar5007.tar.gz
[01:57] <Tyrath> jesusfreak: tell me how you go
[01:57] <DVA5912> In VMWARE web interfece what is the default user and pass? I tried my account credentials but I don't have permision to access
[01:57] <B0BBY2> I'm using Intrepid with brasero 0.8.2. But on Hardy it only upgrades to brasero 0.7.1. Is there a way to upgrade the braser on Hardy to 0.8.2?
[01:57] <KMandla> Pelo Thanks, the obvious solution always seems to evade me. ...
[01:57] <KrispyKreme> pelo: is that the one i need?
[01:58] <LF|Irssi> DVA5912: user is admin pass is what you set when you installed vmware server
[01:58] <cyb3rassasin> hello
[01:58] <Pelo> bobslaede, you can probably dl the package from ubuntu.packages.com ( .org ?),  but not sure it will work
[01:58] <Tyrath> hi
[01:58] <Static--> whats madwifi?
[01:58] <Pelo> KrispyKreme, no idea,  it's the first link in the first command listed on the page,  I suggest you read that link you keep posting a little more carefully
[01:58] <KrispyKreme> wget: unable to resolve host address `snapshots.madwifi-project.orgspecial' Pelo
[01:59] <KrispyKreme> I linked the page... Pelo
[01:59] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, you around?
[01:59] <Pelo> KrispyKreme,the link  seems to be broken then
[01:59] <cyb3rassasin> I'm having some problems with installing pidgin, I recently installed dvd::rip which said it would uninstall pidgin, which was fine with me at the time. I have since removed dvd::rip and I now want to reinstall pidgin, but I can't because of a broken packager error.
[01:59] <KrispyKreme> you know where to get a new one? Pelo
[01:59] <Tyrath> LjL: when I take off quiet and splash in boot in order that I can see potential screwups in boots and where it lags, it strangely takes bold off in console. Any idea why this may be the case?
[01:59] <Pelo> KrispyKreme, no idea
[02:00] <Pelo> KrispyKreme, check the forum , www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:00] <Tyrath> !madwifi | Static--
[02:00] <linxeh> hey Comrade-Sergei , I am, but about to go to bed
[02:00] <crimsun> KrispyKreme: note that you're missing a slash '/' between org and special.
[02:00] <GodfatherofEire> Could I get some help setting up jack-rack, jackd, and jackeq?
[02:00] <MaT-dg> I don't know anymore who helped me with the 'resolution' of console-environment problem but your answer with framebuffer helped, thx!
[02:00] <Tyrath> anyone use DLINK here?
[02:00] <Pelo> cyb3rassasin, open synaptic,  check the buttons on the bottom left, and find the broken package,  purge it and then reinstall it
[02:00] <BIG-D> everything is fine with the ISO when i checked it..... i have  no idea wats wrong
[02:01] <cyb3rassasin> thanks Pelo I'll try that
[02:01] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, quick ive gotten it almost there but it says "Unknown command: "account"" when i try to execute the script
[02:01] <KrispyKreme> crimsun: that was the error
[02:01] <KrispyKreme>     wget -c http://snapshots.madwifi.org/special/madwifi-ng-r2756+ar5007.tar.gz
[02:01] <driva2009> morning all! Do you have a french language channel for Ubuntu please?
[02:01] <KrispyKreme> that no longer works
[02:01] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, which i assume is part of the mailrc file
[02:01] <Tyrath> driva2009: #ubuntu-fr
[02:01] <Pelo> driva2009, #ubuntu-fr
[02:01] <driva2009> I have a user in PM who has primary french language, and he is having trouble using Audacity cause his sound doesn't work when he runs it
[02:01] <Tyrath> driva2009: I speak french aswell if you want me to help you in a private message :D
[02:02] <jesusfreak> keeps saying no such file or directory
[02:02] <sunapi386> how do i setup a projector with ubuntu?
[02:02] <Tyrath> driva2009: though I'm not an expert on linux :/
[02:02] <nxxs> quick conky-related question:  sit. 1: hdd mounted: http://i37.tinypic.com/snhvkl.jpg , sit 2: hdd not mounted: sit2 http://i36.tinypic.com/fwk8iu.jpg how do i get rid of the empty space ?  conkyrc http://pastebin.com/d4af4b905
[02:02]  * Pelo wonders where in the french world it's morning right now 
[02:02] <ExecutiveOrder> can someone help me with a wireless problem , my device says im connected it shows an ip its receiving and sending packets but a very small amount and i cant get on the internet the light on my router is on the wep key is correct i have no idea whats going on
[02:02] <driva2009> i will send him to #ubuntu-fr
[02:02] <driva2009> thanks!
[02:02] <crimsun> KrispyKreme: http://snapshots.madwifi-project.org/special/madwifi-ng-r2756+ar5007.tar.gz works for me
[02:02] <MaT-dg> When I edit the message of the day (etc/motd) it is reset to default after a reboot. How can I make the changes permanent?
[02:02] <LaQuirrELL> HELLO ALL
[02:02] <roshank> crimsun: i did the update and restarted
[02:03] <arrrghhh> anyone use projectM in ubuntu?
[02:03] <sunapi386> -   how do i setup a projector with ubuntu?
[02:03] <arrrghhh> sunapi386, depends on your video card setup.
[02:03] <Pelo> sunapi386, like any other monitor I would guess
[02:03] <GodfatherofEire> Could somebody help me out with jack-rack, etc here?
[02:03] <ExecutiveOrder> http://pastebin.com/m6476d184
[02:03] <crimsun> roshank: ok, so what's the issue you're attempting to resolve?
[02:03] <spartan2276> I got a quick Q, I installed firestater firewall but my daughter can no longer see my shared music folder through rhythmbox, I allowed all connections from my internal network, but still not working, maybe my network address is wrong?
[02:03] <sunapi386> arrrghhh; ati x1400
[02:03] <arrrghhh> sunapi386, Pelo is correct, it is exactly like setting up a second monitor.
[02:03] <ExecutiveOrder> can someone help this has been going on for a couple weeks now and i cant find anything on the forums to fix it
[02:03] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: humm, can you paste the link ?
[02:04] <Tyrath> ok, no-one seems to know how to interface with a router without going through the router's interface....
[02:04] <sunapi386> arrrghhh; how do you set up a second monitor
[02:04] <Tyrath> surely there's a way...
[02:04] <spartan2276> sunapi386: what videocard do you have
[02:04] <Tyrath> the router interface is a nuisance and I hate it
[02:04] <arrrghhh> sunapi386, plug in the projector to your second monitor out...
[02:04] <Pelo> ExecutiveOrder, can you summarise the problem before posting links to pastebin
[02:04] <Tyrath> it would be so much better if I could just change router settings straight from a console...
 arrrghhh; ati x1400
[02:04] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, ill paste bin the script the mailrc and the msmrc
[02:05] <dmulholland> hey, im trying to upgrade to openoffice 3.0 in ubuntu intrepid (upgrade from hardy) and i've added the launchpad source but im not picking up the new packages... any ideas why?
[02:05] <KrispyKreme> crimsun: it works, how did you do it?
[02:05] <ExecutiveOrder> i did Pelo
[02:05] <sunapi386> sparkey; ati x1400
[02:05] <ExecutiveOrder> scroll up
[02:05] <Tyrath> dmulholland: do you go to melbourne university?
[02:05] <arrrghhh> dmulholland, do you see any failures when you hit refresh?
[02:05] <roshank> crimsun: well i was trying to get skype to use my mic. if you cant get that fixed, there is also an issue with pulse audio manager not having the source for mic being set correct. im not sure what it should be but it's not what it is now b/c the volume meter's dont respond when i tap on the mic. the mic is an option in the volume control under ALSA
[02:05] <crimsun> KrispyKreme: I navigated to the base URL you gave me and tried downloading the file from the new URL (hostname change)
[02:05] <spartan2276> sunapi386:  you have the proprietary drivers installed?
[02:05] <sunapi386> i do
[02:06] <KrispyKreme> can you give me the direct link to that site?
[02:06] <KrispyKreme> crimsun
[02:06] <Tyrath> dmulholland: also you have to remove ooffice-core and ooffice before installing the update
[02:06] <crimsun> KrispyKreme: I did above
[02:06] <Pelo> ExecutiveOrder, wifi stuff is out of my range,  just ask agin periodicaly
[02:06] <spartan2276> go to synaptic and search for ATI control panel
[02:06] <felipc> anyone knows what is the equivalent of BSD's (netstat -aw1) in Ubuntu?
[02:06] <Tyrath> dmulholland: as in sudo apt-get remove <files>
[02:06] <GodfatherofEire> Does anybody know how to set up jack-rack?
[02:06] <KrispyKreme> woops
[02:06] <KrispyKreme> I got logged out
[02:06] <crimsun> roshank: oh, right.  Did you configure Skype to use pcm.pulse for your audio device?
[02:06] <Pelo> GodfatherofEire, what is jack-rack ?
[02:06] <ExecutiveOrder> the light on the router for wireless is on
[02:06] <KrispyKreme> can't see it now crimsun
[02:06] <ExecutiveOrder> i put the right key in
[02:06] <dmulholland> Tyrath, nope dont go to melbourne university
[02:06] <ExecutiveOrder> but i cant connect wirelessly
[02:06] <linxeh> GodfatherofEire: maybe #lau #lad or #jack ?
[02:06] <crimsun> KrispyKreme: http://snapshots.madwifi-project.org/special/madwifi-ng-r2756+ar5007.tar.gz
[02:06] <ExecutiveOrder> http://pastebin.com/m6476d184
[02:06] <Pelo> !enter | ExecutiveOrder
[02:06] <roshank> crimsun: well pulse was an option foor sound in but it didnt do anything when i tried before the updates: i shall try it again
[02:06] <GodfatherofEire> Linxeh, thanks
[02:07] <dmulholland> arrrghhh, see no failures, it picks it up no problem
[02:07] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, http://pastebin.ca/1268118
[02:07] <ExecutiveOrder> im only getting a couple packets at a time , like bits not bytes per second
[02:07] <spartan2276> sunapi386: although you should be able to switch to dual monitor through system>preferences>screen resolution
[02:07] <Tyrath> dmulholland: no worries you just have the same name as someone that goes there. i know, fat chance it's going to be the same bloke hey but worth a try :)
[02:07] <sunapi386> dmulholland; sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda lol
[02:07] <GodfatherofEire> Pelo, basically it routes audio from certain programs to it, and can modify the output/input accordingly
[02:07] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: and which bit complains?
[02:07] <arrrghhh> sunapi386, don't you dare tell people that
[02:07] <jac0b> how can I tell what driver my videocard is using
[02:07] <arrrghhh> sunapi386, that gets you BANNED
[02:07] <dmulholland> sunapi386, oh so helpful
[02:07] <arrrghhh> dmulholland, don't do that
[02:07] <KrispyKreme> kudos to you Crimsun!!!!
[02:07] <dmulholland> arrrghhh, i know
[02:07] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh,  here       andrew@CARRIER-LINUX:~/Programming/Bash$ ./ipchecker
[02:07] <Comrade-Sergei> Unknown command: "account"
[02:08] <Pelo> GodfatherofEire, i'd look for a forum or a channel for it , this channel is more about stuff in the default ubuuntu install
[02:08] <Comrade-Sergei> sorry for the paste it was small
[02:08] <arrrghhh> good.  have you tried installing the new oo.o 3 packages?
[02:08] <dmulholland> arrrghhh, i do know my way around linux, just not quite sure why this wasnt installing when ive added the repo
[02:08] <Tyrath> dmulholland: you have have to remove openoffice.org files using the apt tool. fix this by doing a search: apt-cache search <openoffice.org or ooffice>
[02:08] <Tyrath> dmulholland: then try a debian install of openoffice.org3
[02:08] <linxeh> hmm
[02:08] <sunapi386> dmulholland; dont forget to updatedb
[02:08] <dmulholland> Tyrath, ill give it a shot
[02:08] <amikrop> How can I instantly disable Compiz-Fusion (and perhaps Emerald, as well, if needed), run something with Wine, and then re-enable Compiz-Fusion (and Emerald if I disabled it) with all the previous Compiz-Fusion (and maybe Emerald) settings and preferences that I had before?
[02:09] <roshank> crimsun: so when i set sound device to pulse for sound in, sount out and ringing, all of it seems to work except the mic.
[02:09] <Tyrath> dmulholland: try to avoid the source code if you can. I've run into many problems building from source code
[02:09] <roshank> crimsun: so it might have to do with pulse having the wrong source for capture
[02:09] <Pelo> amikrop, rightclick the desktop,  change wall paper,  last tab
[02:09] <felipc> anyone know a good command on the shell to watch in/out activity on my network interfaces?
[02:09] <Pelo> amikrop, you might also want to ask in #compiz if they know a way to setup a shortcut
[02:10] <crimsun> roshank: ok, check what pavucontrol shows for Capture devices
[02:10] <LF|Irssi> felipc: nmap
[02:10] <toastedmilk> Does anyone know how to get application screenlets that look like the mac OS desktop or where to find source code for this?
[02:10] <[a1]> tcpdump
[02:10] <sunapi386> any one do cat /dev/sda /dev/smb for alarm?
[02:10] <marcosroriz> is kernel.org down?
[02:10] <amikrop> Pelo: I think that loses my settings and prefs.
[02:10] <dmulholland> Tyrath, ill try to avoid it, although most things build from source have been working for me, almost finding source easier than the repos for some stuff
[02:10] <felipc> LF|Irssi: which parameters? I just want to see how many bytes are coming in/out (and possibly how many packets) every second
[02:10] <Pelo> toastedmilk, google ther are a buch of howto to turn your gnome desktop into a mac looking one
[02:11] <amikrop> Pelo: anyway, thanks :)
[02:11] <toastedmilk> Pelo, I just want the widget bubbles for the applications at the bottom of the page
[02:11] <scientes> how can i make ubuntu turn off sound before hibernating and restore it after resumne, it allways freezes and i have to remove and reinsert the kernel modules
[02:11] <zelrikriando> do you guys know where is the compiz channel?
[02:11] <[a1]> felipc: man tcpdump
[02:11] <Pelo> toastedmilk, look into cairo-dock or avant-window-navigator
[02:11] <roshank> crimsun: this is what it shows for source in pulse audio manager: name: alsa_input.pci_8086_284b_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_0   Description: ALSA PCM on front:0 (ALC882 Analog) via DMA
[02:11] <Volkodav> I installed the 64 bit alpha flash and now firefox crashes with bus error and opera has no plugin working neither
[02:12] <marcosroriz> is kernel.org down?
[02:12] <felipc> [a1]: thanks a1, I'll take a look at tcpdump.. I was searching for something at netstat, but didn't find what I needed.
[02:12] <Tyrath> dmulholland: the issue for me hasn't been the original source compile but the fact that the programs dependencies were build from apt/debian packages and consequently were in different directories to those expected for the source build
[02:12] <crimsun> marcosroriz: it's reachable for my route
[02:12] <jesusfreak> could someone help me with this proxy deal...I can't even download my wireless dtrivers from the Add/Remove lis
[02:12] <LaQuirrELL> in order to setup my linksys router with my two computers and a P2P program i went to the portforward site and read thru their material.  It said that i would be best if i set my computers to static ip's, but they [portforward] don't have any info on doing this on ubuntu/linux .  I got some useful information from a site called NIXCRAFT on doing this, but it isn't working.   Can someone help me please?
[02:12] <scientes> marcosroriz, kernel.org is up
[02:13] <marcosroriz> crimsaq, cant acess
[02:13] <dmulholland> Tyrath, yeah, ran into that with a few GTK styles i build, had to pass an arguement to ./configure to make it work correctly
[02:13] <marcosroriz> its up now!
[02:13] <shangqian> I from china
[02:13] <sunapi386> i from earth
[02:13] <Pelo> jesusfreak, add/remove is for appllications, not drivers,  you will want synaptic for that , in the admin menu
[02:13] <crimsun> roshank: in pavucontrol, under Input devices, is the speaker icon depressed (X) or not?
[02:13] <axisys> how do lit the wifi led ?
[02:13] <shangqian> how did you do
[02:13] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, looks good right?
[02:13] <LF|Irssi> ntop is really really nice too felipc but probably not what you're requesting, anyways its a detailed network anaylizer with a web based GUI :)  i think it's in the repos too.
[02:14] <noriyuki> Someone pls send me the information in the  menu.lst (boot loader) I accidentally erased windows information in it....... or i need a way to set the loader for windows rightt??!! I neeed heelppp!!
[02:14] <Tyrath> dmulholland: i think it's a lot more complicated. ubuntu is integrated with debian to make installs easier so I figure why not keep it simple stupid
[02:14] <cfedde> LaQuirrELL: it can be done from the network dialog or by editing the interfaces file in /etc/network
[02:14] <Pelo> LaQuirrELL, the port forward part you will do in the router,  the static ip you will set in menu>system> admin > network
[02:14] <linxeh> Comrade-Sergei: yeah, I guess you dont have nail installed though for whaever reason :/
[02:14] <shangqian> 有没有中国的？
[02:14] <ExecutiveOrder> http://pastebin.com/m6476d184
[02:14] <Pelo> !cn | shangqian
[02:14] <DVA5912> ok I got vmware in the web access. I powered on a machine I created isn't it supposed to popup a window or something to show its on? how else am I goping to use my machines?
[02:14] <Tyrath> dmulholland: i hate fiddling with configure files. overly time consuming when it isn't necessary
[02:15] <KrispyKreme> Crimsun: I get this error on step 6 of http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-5007eg-with-madwifi-on-i386-platform-2.html
[02:15] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, because i edited the instances of "nail" to mail
[02:15] <Pelo> g'night folks
[02:15] <felipc> LF|Irssi: thanks a lot for the suggestion... maybe a GUI generating summaries will be helpful too..
[02:15] <dmulholland> Tyrath, yeah i agree, will never go to gentoo
[02:15] <shangqian> thanks
[02:15] <crimsun> KrispyKreme: I can't test that procedure; I don't have that wifi hardware
[02:15] <Tyrath> anyone have any idea how to interface with a router through shell?
[02:15] <jac0b> how can I tell what ati driver is being used?
[02:15] <Tyrath> night Pelo
[02:15] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh,  because you cant get nail anymore it yells at me and tells me to get heirloom mailx
[02:15] <KrispyKreme> crimsun: josh
[02:15] <KrispyKreme> @lappy:~/madwifi-ng-r2756+ar5007$ sudo make install
[02:15] <LaQuirrELL> cfedde:  itried this but it says something like  dsl provider not found
[02:15] <KrispyKreme> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[02:15] <noriyuki> What is the kernel for windows vista??? (menu.lst bootloader)... it will probably different for everyone but I need to try something
[02:15] <crimsun> jac0b: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:15] <LF|Irssi> felipc: yeah i find it a pretty nice app :)
[02:16] <KrispyKreme> no rule to make install crimsun
[02:16] <freethinker4real> Hi all!
[02:16] <roshank> crimsun: i tried with the colume button depressed and without: and it doesnt seem to work
[02:16] <felipc> LF|Irssi: very cool... thx again.. gnight
[02:16] <dmulholland> Tyrath, i have the old 2.x packages removed but synaptic still isnt picking up the oo.o 3.0 packages from the launchpad source that when i do apt-get update is being hit successfully
[02:16] <crimsun> roshank: please pastebin the output from `amixer -c0'
[02:16] <LaQuirrELL> pelo: i have done the port forward part    the static part isn't working
[02:16] <sqrtof-1> how do you put a bcm43xx in ad-hoc mode?
[02:16] <KrispyKreme> make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. what does this mean???
[02:16] <LF|Irssi> felipc: anytime.
[02:16] <thor> When i try to update via synaptic i get a bunch of errors saying that my connection has been refused. If i try apt-get nothing happens just says what IS to be upgrade. i even try --allow-unauthenticated and nothing. Ive also noticed that i cant get firefox to connect but yet im allowed into irc chat???
[02:16] <Tyrath> dmulholland: you will have to install the debian off the site I think - at least that's what I did
[02:17] <crimsun> KrispyKreme: that means the Makefile has no install:
[02:17] <sqrtof-1> KrispyKreme: invalid makefile
[02:17] <freethinker4real> how i can improve firewall?
[02:17] <sqrtof-1> !make
[02:17]  * Cosmo gives sqrtof-1 :sqrtof-1!n=hacker@adsl-70-231-230-109.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #ubuntu :-!make,  and  - what can you make of them?
[02:17] <cfedde> LaQuirrELL: I'm confused.  you want to set a static IP address on one of your ubuntu hosts?
[02:17] <roshank> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/m66202c20
[02:17] <DasEi1> thor:restart network
[02:17] <dmulholland> Tyrath, dont understand it though because on a fresh intrepid install the launchpad source worked perfectly,
[02:17] <KrispyKreme> crimsun, sqrtof-1 : what can I do now?
[02:17] <LaQuirrELL> on both of my computers
[02:18] <thor> DasEi1: ive restarted the whole system a few times
[02:18] <LaQuirrELL> they r behind a linksys router
[02:18] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, ever have that problem?
[02:18] <sqrtof-1> where did you get the sources?
[02:18] <roshank> KrispyKreme: did you forst do make, and then sudo make install?
[02:18] <roshank> first*
[02:18] <DasEi1> thor: can you ping google ?
[02:18] <noriyuki> Who installed windows and then linux I NEED HELP PLZ.
[02:18] <sqrtof-1> KrispyKreme: Did you do ./configure?
[02:18] <Tyrath> dmulholland: I don't understand because I've always had to find the debian package on openoffice.org, and this is both of my original intrepid install and the reinstall
[02:18] <KrispyKreme> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-5007eg-with-madwifi-on-i386-platform-2.html
[02:18] <roshank> noriyuki: what happened?
[02:18] <thor> DasEi1: yes
[02:19] <KrispyKreme> I followed that guide exactly as is
[02:19] <toastedmilk> Pelo, I installed cairo-dock from the hardy repository, now where do I find it to run?
[02:19] <KrispyKreme> sqrtof-1, roshank
[02:19] <ExecutiveOrder> i put in the right wep key , the light is green on my router, and according to if/iwconfig it connected to the right network but im only getting a couple packets at a time and i cant connect to router http://pastebin.com/m6476d184   does anyone have any idea at all whats wrong this has been going on for a couple weeks and i need to get my wireless working
[02:19] <KrispyKreme> I followed that guide exactly as is
[02:19] <sqrtof-1> ok, let me see...
[02:19] <GodfatherofEire> Anybody know how to get jackd working?
[02:19] <noriyuki> roshank, I erased accidentally the windows loader in the boot loader (menu.lst) please tell me the kernel you have for windows pls
[02:19] <scientes> how can i make ubuntu turn off sound before hibernating and restore it after resumne, it allways freezes and i have to remove and reinsert the kernel modules
[02:19] <DasEi1> noriyuki:backup menu.lst , fixmbr with win-cd and see :
[02:19] <sqrtof-1> KrispyKreme:
[02:19] <DasEi1> !grub
[02:19] <LaQuirrELL> i have tried altering my /etc/network/interfaces file with the stuff i found on nixcraft website but it didn't work
[02:20] <crimsun> roshank: you likely want to increase the front mic boost, the mic boost, set capture to actually capture, and choose one of front mic and mic
[02:20] <toastedmilk> Pelo, whoop, found iyt.
[02:20] <sqrtof-1> they used bad html Run "make" before "sudo make install"
[02:20] <DasEi1> thor: what says ifconfig ?
[02:20] <freethinker4real> is someone that i can talk about security?
[02:20] <crimsun> roshank: i.e., it looks like a mixer control setting, not a problem with alsa or pulseaudio
[02:20] <KrispyKreme> sqrtof-1: so what can i do now and from which step?
[02:20] <KrispyKreme> wait, ok
[02:21] <scriptx> if a distribution upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 didn't go right, is there a way to re-install 8.10 from the commandline?
[02:21] <noriyuki> DasEi1, I ddint loose linux after installing linux omg.. I upgraded the menu.lst and it got erased
[02:21] <noriyuki> I just need the kernel path...
[02:21] <dmulholland> Tyrath, there are a load of how-tos on the net that give a launchpad deb source that you add and then it automatically update, this worked for me on a fresh intrepid install but isnt working on my hardy->intrepid upgrade install...
[02:21] <noriyuki> DasEi1, please tell me yours...
[02:21] <DasEi1> noriyuki: /boot/grub/
[02:21] <thor> DasEi1: everything looks normal, local ip, mac etc...
[02:22] <DasEi1> noriyuki: /boot/grub/  for menu.lst and /boot for kernel
[02:22] <n8tuser> Skyfury -> i was eating my meal..where you able to   sudo ifdown eth0;  sudo ifdown wlan0; sudo ifup wlan0 ?
[02:22] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, you there?
[02:22] <DasEi1> noriyuki: open a terminal..
[02:22] <noriyuki> DasEi1,  That daseil is the path for the menu.lst.... go into your menu.lst information and search the loader for windows and tell me its kernel
[02:22] <LaQuirrELL> can anyone tell me if it is even necessary to have static ip  when using a router? in ubuntu?
[02:22] <datta> how can i configure my audacity? the input of the sound?
[02:22] <n8tuser> LaQuirrELL -> nope, dont have to be static
[02:22] <DasEi1> noriyuki: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[02:23] <DasEi1> noriyuki: are you in ubuntu now ??
[02:23] <GodfatherofEire> Could I get some help with jackd?
[02:23] <noriyuki> DasEi1, I know how to get to the menu.lst I JUST dont know the kernel you have for windows
[02:23] <noriyuki> DasEi1, yes i am
[02:24] <LaQuirrELL> n8tuser:  so that static thingy they talk about at portforward.com is only for windows  users?
[02:24] <DasEi1> noriyuki: you're talking about windows, what was that-- ntldr .. see #windows
[02:24] <datta> can anyone please tell me why i can't record anything with my ubuntu audacity but can with windows
[02:25] <favadi> !list
[02:25] <noriyuki> DasEi1, If you do what I tell you to do would you? ( I am on linux and is about linux)
[02:25] <n8tuser> LaQuirrELL -> nope, you have to understand why you need such...you have to explain what is your requirements?
[02:25] <DasEi1> noriyuki: ?
[02:26] <fenerli7> can I play ut2004 on linux against someone playing on the windows version? (provided we have the same patch of course, 3369)
[02:26] <roshank> crimsun: i enabled capture 0,1,2 and set them all the way. i enabled front mic (which i can hear when enabled), microhpone and turned up front mic boost and microphone boost and everything, yet all i heards from the skype test call was increased static.
[02:26] <genii> fenerli7: Yes, the server doesn't care about which os the clients run
[02:26] <DasEi1> thor: any fw configured ? ufw/firestarter ?
[02:26] <Llanowyn> DasEi1:  I really really fixed my problem.  I ripped out the bad stick of ram and now I'm able to continue installing.  Thank you for all of your help earlier.  I appreciate it.
[02:26] <noriyuki> DasEi1, I need you to open your menu.lst (bootloader) and search for this :   title           Windows Vista/Longhorn (loader)
[02:27] <fenerli7> genii: cheers
[02:27] <DasEi1> Llanowyn: nice to hear
[02:27] <crimsun> roshank: but did you choose the front mic as the actual recording device?
[02:27] <noriyuki> DasEi1, then please tell me the other three lines beneath to it
[02:27] <DasEi1> noriyuki: k, open a terminal..
[02:27] <roshank> crimsun: how do i do that? i dont see it as an option for skype
[02:27] <thor> DasEi1: im not sure exactly what that is
[02:27] <noriyuki> o
[02:28] <noriyuki> ok
[02:28] <LaQuirrELL> n8tuser:  I have two computers that are behind linksys router  I use a P2P program called Winmx and a chat server called WCS  from which i run a chat room.  I need to be able to switch chat server and room from computer to computer and back again
[02:28] <DasEi1> noriyuki: my menu.lst ? it will differ from your's
[02:28] <crimsun> roshank: rerun amixer -c0, and pastebin it again
[02:28] <noriyuki> daseil, probably but please tell me
[02:28] <Tyrath> dmulholland: I would uninstall previous versions than install the deb package from the site. other than that I do not know. sorry :/
[02:28] <DasEi1> noriyuki: that makes no sense
[02:29] <DasEi1> thor: firewall not sure what it is ?
[02:29] <noriyuki> DasEi1, ok dont then... tell me how to reset menu.lst to normal//?
[02:29] <dmulholland> Tyrath, downloading the deb from the oo site now... hopefully it works ok
[02:29] <axisys> still wanted to find out how to lit the wifi led ?
[02:29] <datta> can anyone please tell me why i can't record anything with my ubuntu audacity but can with windows
[02:29] <LaQuirrELL> n8tuser: right now i can only get one machine to run this programs
[02:29] <thor> DasEi1: oh firewall....no thought you said something else
[02:29] <noriyuki> daseil, I need to boot on windows but since I erased that part of the menu.lst i cannot
[02:29] <DasEi1> noriyuki:3rd try open a terminal..
[02:29] <roshank> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/m31bd978a
[02:30] <DasEi1> noriyuki:sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[02:30] <dr_willis> noriyuki,  theres an example entry in the menu.lst thats commented out to show how to boot a windows isntall.. You would need to edit it to point to the right drives
[02:30] <DasEi1> noriyuki:sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[02:30] <n8tuser> LaQuirrELL -> typically, dhcp routers on linksys will dole out same ip to same mac address,
[02:30] <crimsun> roshank: look at your Input Sources
[02:30] <DasEi1> noriyuki: pastebinit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:30] <crimsun> roshank: they're all set to Mic instead of Front Mic
[02:30] <n8tuser> LaQuirrELL -> what is the ip address of your host behind the linksys?
[02:31] <DasEi1> noriyuki: give resulting urls here
[02:31] <crimsun> roshank: also, you likely want to set both Front Mic Boost and Mic Boost to 100%
[02:31] <DasEi1> thor: what do you get if you call google in browser ? error ? 404 ?
[02:32] <roshank> crimsun: when i increased the boost before it would start ringing loud like that sort of echo. also how would i change the input device from mic to front mic?
[02:32] <roshank> crimsun: and at the moment the boost is about 1/3 of the way up
[02:32] <crimsun> roshank: you can use any mixer (e.g., alsamixer -c0, amixer -c0, the mixer_applet in the notification tray)
[02:33] <noriyuki> alrgith
[02:33] <Guest6356> i want a logiciel to dowload music , i can find it
[02:34] <shangqian> hi ,everyone
[02:34] <viktorkAZ> hell one question.. is compiz the user interface
[02:34] <viktorkAZ> or
[02:34] <viktorkAZ> just a window manager
[02:34] <shangqian> good morning
[02:34] <viktorkAZ> i mean compiz can work with kde, gnome, etc?
[02:34] <noriyuki> noriyuki@noriyuki-laptop:~$ fdisk -l | pastebinit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:34] <noriyuki> Cannot open /dev/sda
[02:34] <noriyuki> Cannot open /dev/sdb
[02:34] <noriyuki> KeyboardInterrupt caught.
[02:34] <FloodBot3> noriyuki: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:34] <roshank> crimsun: yeah but i mean i have both microphone and front mic turned on. how do i change the input source as you said from mic to front mic? i dont see any option in the volume control
[02:35] <roshank> crimsun: im really sorry btw im relatively new to ubuntu
[02:35] <DasEi1> !who | noriyuki
[02:35] <thor> DasEi1: nothing happens
[02:35] <crimsun> roshank: if you use alsamixer -c0, press Tab to change the View to Capture
[02:36] <DasEi1> noriyuki: just a example, not valid for your sys : http://paste.ubuntu.com/77278/
[02:36] <noriyuki> my bad DasEi1  but it means youu saw it
[02:36] <DasEi1> noriyuki: 2 urls ?
[02:36] <noriyuki> DasEi1, is there a command to set back to initial ?
[02:37] <talirk81> Does anyone have experince running GFS2 or GFS2 in a  jeos or ubuntu server enviroment
[02:37] <talirk81> we are getting odd lock up and feezes from both.
[02:37] <balrog> does anybody know how to get gnome to scale the background image for the panel?  it works if i specify the background explicitly, but when i use the system theme (with a non-Human theme), it looks like crap...
[02:37] <DasEi1> noriyuki: what was that ? windows only ?
[02:38] <talirk81> GFS2 or OCFS2 i mean
[02:38] <[yop]> http://www.defectivebydesign.org/day01-macbook
[02:38] <[yop]> :)
[02:38] <[yop]> by
[02:38] <FloodBot3> [yop]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:38] <DasEi1> thor: tried another browser ?
[02:38] <roshank> crimsun: THANKS YES IT WORK!!!
[02:38] <GodfatherofEire> Does anybody have any suggestions for getting jackd to work?
[02:38] <elementz_> could somebody help me with the syntax of find? i am trying to find all files larger than 10mb within a folder. find -size 10M *.file does not work
[02:39] <DasEi1> noriyuki: what was / is initial ? what about the 2 urls pastebin should have given out ?
[02:39] <jthurman> -name *.file ?
[02:39] <crimsun> roshank: np
[02:40] <datta> can anyone please tell me why i can't record anything with my ubuntu audacity but can with windows
[02:40] <noriyuki> DasEi1, I will tell you now let me reboot
[02:40] <talirk81> -size +10000k
[02:40] <datta> come on someonep lease help
[02:40] <elementz_> jthurman: nah not working like that
[02:40] <talirk81> that should work  you had -size 10M not +10M
[02:40] <thor> DasEi1: hmm i can install epiphany thru apt-get but i still cant upgrade...hmm
[02:40] <dr_willis> !record
[02:41] <dr_willis> !recording
[02:41] <scientes> how can i fork off a thread in bash?
[02:41] <talirk81> so it was only matching exactly 10M not =>10
[02:41] <spaz926> I got kicked off! Why?
[02:41] <KrispyKreme_> where did sqrt-of1 go???
[02:41] <elementz_> talirk81: what about the search dir? is that correct? find . -name -size +10M *.file    to search for all files larger then 10MB within the current dir?
[02:42] <GodfatherofEire> Does anybody in here know how to set up jackd?
[02:42] <KrispyKreme_> anyone know where sqrt-of 1 went?
[02:42] <bk-bk> my webcam dosen't work with cheese and the others.. what i must do ? 8.10 ,hp pavillion webcam
[02:42] <elementz_> KrispyKreme_: guess hes not here...
[02:42] <KrispyKreme_> did he leave just now elementz
[02:42] <KrispyKreme_> did you see him leave?
[02:43] <CMD_L1N3> hi i'm having trouble with bluetooth in 8.10.
[02:43] <spaz926> can someone help me i went to ubuntu on a laptop and i cant seem to get wifi Atheros 802.11 working and my Nvidia graphic accelerater working anyone know how to fix?
[02:43] <elementz> KrispyKreme_: how would i know? no. didn't see him leave, sry. people come and go, maybe hes just afk
[02:43] <KrispyKreme_> i got same problem as spaz926
[02:43] <CMD_L1N3> I have a dell with built in bluetooth and it's not working. I dont think it is even recognized on boot.
[02:44] <DasEi1> thor: can you use paketmanager? if so search browser
[02:44] <scientes> why doesnt the shutdown script just call most of the rc script in parallel?
[02:44] <elementz> argh whats wrong with my syntax: find .  -name -size 10M  *.avi
[02:45] <KrispyKreme_> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-5007eg-with-madwifi-on-i386-platform-2.html. this only provides a README in the folder. where is the most current one?
[02:45] <meoblast001> what do i do if my gnome-panel randomly disappears?
[02:45] <spaz926> I enabled proprietary drivers, but still nothing!
[02:45] <HoNgOuRu> how do I start a kde4 session?
[02:45] <talirk81> elementz: find /mp3-collection -name 'Metallica*' -and -size +10000k
[02:45] <dr_willis> elementz,  well bash for starters will see the *.avi and expand it to be any files that match that pattern. in the current directory. You may need to single quote it.. or looka t the find docs.. to see the right way to set up patterns.
[02:45] <elementz> talirk81: thx
[02:45] <HoNgOuRu> I was using kde3 but I installed kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[02:46] <KrispyKreme_> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-5007eg-with-madwifi-on-i386-platform-2.html. this only provides a README in the folder. where is the most current one?
[02:46] <elementz> dr_willis: thx man, actually was reading up  on the man, but its vast ;)
[02:46] <svref> What's the difference between the dell-mini-archive apt sources that came on my laptop and the official 8.04 apt sources?
[02:46] <dr_willis> elementz,  i always google for examples. :)
[02:47] <Comrade-Sergei> linxeh, heh I got it it didnt matter that its erroring out its was still going through thanks anyways
[02:47] <talirk81> anyone have experince with gfs or ocfs2?
[02:47] <CMD_L1N3> I have a dell with built in bluetooth and it's not working. I dont think it is even recognized on boot.
[02:47] <meoblast001> how do you reset gnome-panel?
[02:47] <losetheshizzle> evening.. i have a few problems i've been working on .. the first is my display settings.. it sees the nVidia device, but will not successfully apply the drivers
[02:48] <thor> DasEi1: just tried epiphany also, same nonresults
[02:48] <losetheshizzle> i have a compaq f700
[02:48] <losetheshizzle> any help would be appreciated
[02:48] <CMD_L1N3> meoblast001: killall gnome-panel
[02:50] <DasEi1> thor:though you shouldn't run it so, start ff as root ?
[02:50] <cached> I just upgraded to II, and now my nvidia drivers don't work. The drivers don't appear in the System=>Administration=>Hardware Drivers list. What should I do from here?
[02:50] <iamthelordofhost> hello fellow linux users! i like u guys way more than the peeps on afternet, damn their assholes
[02:50] <thor> DasEi1: hmmm, that works
[02:50] <losetheshizzle> anyone interested in helping me out with my display settings problem?
[02:51] <mylogic> how long do bans in #ubuntu-offtopic last? -.-
[02:51] <heyokiedokie> is ubuntu going to pass up linux someday?
[02:52] <DasEi1> thor: so you got a permissive prob then (closee ff as root, harmfull possib.)
[02:52] <heyokiedokie> how do i get to the offtopic
[02:52] <GodfatherofEire> Would SOMEBODY help me out with this problem with jackd, because I havent found anything in the last hour.
[02:52] <mylogic> type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:52] <mylogic> when you go in there
[02:52] <cached> no help?
[02:52] <mylogic> ask how long the bans last for, lol
[02:52] <thor> DasEi1: so how uh, do i get around this then?
[02:52] <heyokiedokie> is sarcasm dominant in american culture?
[02:53] <jscinoz> Hi
[02:53] <heyokiedokie> i mean, the most prominant
[02:53] <mylogic> I could answer no, but that would just justify your argument ;p
[02:53] <heyokiedokie> wow
[02:53] <heyokiedokie> lol
[02:53] <heyokiedokie> ;P
[02:53] <jscinoz> I am trying to use kvm on my ubuntu server, and networking is set up like this: eth0 + eth1 --> bond0 >> which is then bridged in br0. but virt-manager shows no devices under "Shared Physical Device" for networking
[02:53] <losetheshizzle> cached: i'm having some similar issues.. with nvidia.. nothing i found in the forums have worked.. and i get no answers here either
[02:53] <heyokiedokie> who would ever make that face
[02:53] <heyokiedokie> tounge and wink
[02:53] <heyokiedokie> maybe in a porno
[02:54] <DasEi1> thor:maybe your regular user isn't allowed network/browsing as pidgin still working ?
[02:54] <Killer--Tux> how can i send a message to a computer by ip address
[02:54] <jscinoz> i need help ASAP because i only have access to this server for one more hour
[02:54] <genii> heyokiedokie: Do you have a question regarding ubuntu?
[02:54] <heyokiedokie> no i just need friends
[02:54] <mylogic> who actually analyzes virtual smilies? probably people in an internet porno...
[02:54] <heyokiedokie> well, idc, i'm rich
[02:54] <eleaf> Hey, what's a good network throughput test tool?  I have one installed but I forgot the command!
[02:54] <ladmin> irc.freenode.net
[02:54] <elementz> ok, and what am i missing now? find . -name '*.*' -and -size +80M -and -exec mplayer {}\;
[02:55] <heyokiedokie> who acually analyzes virtual pixel messages on an lcd screen
[02:55] <xplo> is there a tutorial to guide me in installing an eggdrop on ubuntu8.10??
[02:55] <mylogic> most people...'
[02:55] <heyokiedokie> ah! so i win
[02:55] <mylogic> not really
[02:55] <thor> DasEi1: hmm pidgin still works
[02:55] <heyokiedokie> i was being sarcastic
[02:55] <DasEi1> thor:check suedors
[02:55] <DasEi1> !suedors
[02:56] <mylogic> it's the whole a square is a rectangle but a rectangle is not always a square argument
[02:56] <mylogic> so you don't actually win
[02:56] <heyokiedokie> i bet u dont even use ubuntu mylogic
[02:56] <heyokiedokie> u just lurk on here to be a punk
[02:56] <xplo> !eggdrop
[02:56] <genii> xplo: I believe http://www.eggheads.org/ has pretty good help sections
[02:56] <xplo> !eggdrops
[02:56] <heyokiedokie> ur acually a windows me user
[02:56] <mylogic> hmm
[02:56] <mylogic> I would say you are wrong my friend
[02:56] <losetheshizzle> aiight... if you all don't like the nvidia driver problem, how about this one:  in order for my ethernet to work i have to manually run dhclient from the terminal after every restart
[02:56] <heyokiedokie> all ubuntu users are kind, gentle, and understanding
[02:57] <dctrotz> hi guys... new to ubuntu... not new to linux
[02:57] <mylogic> and not only do I run ubuntu on my workstation and laptops, but I also use it on my production servers!
[02:57] <dctrotz> I am stuck
[02:57] <jscinoz> anyone?
[02:57] <genii> DasEi1: Maybe on your own box to issue:    man sudoers
[02:57] <mylogic> well then it makes sense I come from the gentoo community originally :)
[02:57] <dctrotz> I have no g++ but I do have gcc ???!
[02:57] <heyokiedokie> ah! i win
[02:57] <dctrotz> fresh install of Ubuntu 8.10
[02:57] <mylogic> hence my ban in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:58] <heyokiedokie> gentoo, thats for coders, not for true ubuntuers
[02:58] <mylogic> some kid came in talking about programming virus' in bash, so I introduced him to a fork-bomb
[02:58] <jscinoz> I am trying to use kvm on my ubuntu server, and networking is set up like this: eth0 + eth1 --> bond0 >> which is then bridged in br0. but virt-manager shows no devices under "Shared Physical Device" for networking, how cani fix this? I need this fixed in the next hour as i only have physicall access to this server for that time.
[02:58] <DasEi1> genii: it's thor can't browse, though irc
[02:58] <heyokiedokie> whats a fork bomb logic
[02:58] <mylogic> heyokiedokie: that's a horribly vague and stereotypical comment
[02:58] <dctrotz> anyone?
[02:58] <mylogic> google it, I'll get banned if I paste it in here -.-
[02:58] <lubosz> hi
[02:59] <dctrotz> why no g++ if I have gcc
[02:59] <DasEi1> heyokiedokie: see:
[02:59] <heyokiedokie> whys that, just for informative purposes?
[02:59] <DasEi1> !forkbomb
[02:59] <DasEi1> !user | thor
[02:59] <losetheshizzle> thanks ubuntu community.
[02:59] <heyokiedokie> oo! yucky
[02:59] <lubosz> i don't have a /etc/init.d/update-motd, but its linked in /etc/rc2.d, is this bad?
[02:59] <heyokiedokie> u introduced someone to that, mylogic?
[02:59] <Al2O3> how can I get a bios .exe updater file burned to a CD that will boot onto another machine that has no OS installed and run the .exe updater on the target machine?
[02:59] <thor> DasEi1: i just opend up users and found my local, and see that "connect to wireless & ethernet networks" is disconected but everything greyed out
[02:59] <heyokiedokie> can .exe's infect wine?
[02:59] <genii> DasEi1: There is a builtin manual for sudoers in your ubuntu. No browsing of any kind is neccesary
[02:59] <Tyrath> dmulholland: how did you go?
[02:59] <DasEi1> thor : there are also groups for certain tasks, like network and so on
[02:59] <lubosz> but the binary seems to be there: /usr/sbin/update-motd
[02:59] <heyokiedokie> p.s. logic u know im jking about gentoo
[03:00] <mylogic> some nine year old kid came into the room talking about how he was going to send the room virus' or something
[03:00] <DasEi1> genii: yeah, tell that thor
[03:00] <heyokiedokie> why do people make virus? to mine info?
[03:00] <wasabi> So did Oracle ever get their db certfied for Ubuntu?
[03:00] <heyokiedokie> wheres the pleasure in anonymous destruction
[03:00] <heyokiedokie> i mean u dont even get to see the distruction
[03:00] <mylogic> uh, dunno -- but could you go into #ubuntu-offtopic and ask them how long the bans usually last for?
[03:00] <heyokiedokie> maybe rep
[03:00] <genii> heyokiedokie: Perhaps enquire in ##anarchy about that one
[03:01] <losetheshizzle> is there another channel i can go to to find some help getting my drivers working, or is this it?
[03:01] <heyokiedokie> u want me too?
[03:01] <error404notfound> I am reading: http://www.zaphu.com/2007/09/14/ubuntu-dns-server-guide-bind-master-server-setup/ , why is he putting hostname in numeric order in reverse zone file? and do we need to define every hostname in the forward and reverse zone file? say we have 100 hosts then?
[03:01] <Al2O3> a ban lasts as long as the bot/user/admin that bans wants it to last.
[03:01] <mylogic> yes
[03:01] <heyokiedokie> why do u want me to go to anarchy? sarcasm?
[03:01] <mylogic> Al2O3: cute retort, but usually there are rules they follow for ban lengths
[03:01] <genii> heyokiedokie: Somewhat, yes :)
[03:01] <dmulholland> Tyrath, yeah I got it installed from the .deb sadly it doesnt look as nice (the file dialogues and so forth anyway) but ill stick with it for the time being (next 5 months anyway :d)
[03:01] <thor> brb
[03:02] <dmulholland> Tyrath, dont need to use it that often, mainly use latex for my documents
[03:02] <xscottx3> hi all
[03:02] <heyokiedokie> ok i will logic, but can we be friends instead of sarcastic hostile
[03:02] <Al2O3> mylogic: was kinda cute :)  However it varies from butthole to butthole.
[03:02] <xscottx3> i have a quick question about using the terminal
[03:02] <mylogic> heyokiedokie: deal.
[03:02] <xscottx3> how would i go about opening a .pdf file using a command in the terminal>
[03:02] <xscottx3> ?
[03:02] <mylogic> Al2O3: let's hope I got a small one then! ;)
[03:02] <heyokiedokie> why is assaultcube so lame
[03:03] <tritium> xscottx3: evince <filename>
[03:03] <xscottx3> thanks tritium
[03:03] <heyokiedokie> no one in offtopic is responding
[03:03] <genii> heyokiedokie: The point being that many people are requiring asstance with their problems so that if you don't have a problem you require assistance with, and are not assisting others with a problem, then you likely should be in a different channel according to what it is you actually want to discuss
[03:04] <losetheshizzle> alright people.. good luck with  your wide-adoption problem.. jees.
[03:04] <heyokiedokie> ok fair enuf, ill shutup
[03:04] <dctrotz> so my question is irrelevant?
[03:04] <Tyrath> dmulholland: how does it look?
[03:05] <DasEi1>  heyokiedokie: who wanted to know ?
[03:05] <dmulholland> its not the default file browser that's opened with my programs
[03:05] <dmulholland> Tyrath, it just looks a bit old...
[03:06] <heyokiedokie> mylogic, banlasts until they want one says
[03:06]  * mylogic grumbles
[03:06] <wyvern84> Can someone help me get my touchpad working right?
[03:06] <mylogic> time to login to my bouncer I guess
[03:06] <eleaf> can I scp a directory that has a name with a space in it?  I tried using a \ but it doesn't work..
[03:06] <heyokiedokie> mylogic: join #ubuntu-ops to inquire
[03:06] <mylogic> I'll just login to my server and signon through that
[03:06] <eleaf> it says no such file/directory and cuts off anything after the space (scp)
[03:07] <DasEi1> eleaf:I used to rename it
[03:07] <glass> hello i need help, anyone can help me with installing linux on powermac?
[03:07] <mylogic> glass, you should install yellowdog on ppc machines
[03:08] <MHz128> whats yellowdog
[03:08] <DasEi1> mylocic: mind joining #ubuntu-ops
[03:08] <glass> mylogic i have specified the problem i think
[03:08] <Alyxander> hey guys whats a *.mgr file?
[03:08] <scientes> where are nautilus samba mounts mounted?
[03:08] <glass> this is the link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=48013bd7e37e4ca21a5475eb916c7617&t=980519&page=3
[03:08] <eleaf> DasEi1, cannot in this case, the directory is a directory on a windows ntfs mount
[03:09] <eleaf> DasEi1, can scp not handle filenames with spaces?
[03:09] <Heooo> Can someone explain the purpose of X? Do they produce protocols because they want to replace proprietary protocols with free protocols? So does everyone have to pay, for example, of watching a video because of some proprietary protocols?
[03:09] <Alyxander> hey guys whats a *.mgr file?
[03:09] <wyvern84> Can someone help me get my touchpad working right?
[03:09] <yuri> hello, I need help separating 103 files into 7 folders. Each file has a date on it and the 7 folders would be the days of the week sun-sat. how would i go about doing this?
[03:09] <kitche> Heooo: Well X is what gives you graphics
[03:09] <ExecutiveOrder> can someone help me i cant connect to my wireless network , i put the key in the bottom dot goes green and then it just spins and asks me for the key again , i know its the right key, i have the drivers for my card installed and iwconfig is showing its asscociated so theres no reason it shouldnt be connecting
[03:10] <DasEi1> eleaf: it's a general prob, if underlines ( _ ) are missing as are usual in win
[03:10] <NoIdeaMan> Hey, my wireless for some reason is not working.
[03:10] <kitche> Heooo: gnome/kde runs on top of X
[03:10] <derrich> Having some trouble using a USB <-> Serial adapter. lsusb sees the device, and according to dmesg it recognizes it as a generic converter, i'm loading the usbserial kernel module with the vendor and product arguments - but it never creates a node in /dev for me to use
[03:10] <Alyxander> ExecutiveOrder, try changing from ascii to hex or vise versa and that your specifying the right encryption method
[03:11] <losetheshizzle> hey all
[03:11] <eleaf> DasEi1, sounds like a bad bug
[03:11] <OrcD3vil> I'm having trouble receiving files from IRC, I went into Firestarter and port opened ports 1024-5000 and DMZ'ed my internal IP Address anyone care to help
[03:11] <ExecutiveOrder> the key isnt the problem Alyxander i've tried connecting to networks with no encrption and it does the same thing
[03:11] <losetheshizzle> anyone interested in helping me tackle a nVidia wifi driver problem?
[03:11] <Heooo> kitche: why is it now reborn? What are they doing? What is so meaningful?
[03:11] <kitche> eleaf: scp can handle spaces you just have to escape the spaces either with \ or just quote the file
[03:11] <NoIdeaMan> Hey, my wireless for some reason is not working. It works fine on Windows.
[03:11] <ExecutiveOrder> i've booted into dapper, edgy, gutsy , hardy , and they all do the same thing
[03:12] <eleaf> kitche, I tried both, and neither works
[03:12] <smaila> hey needsome help whit my backup disk its a wd 500 gb external hdd. output: 62.556331] EXT3-fs error (device sdc5): ext3_check_descriptors: Block bitmap for group 640 not in group (block 439256833)!
[03:12] <LF|Irssi> On windows the netstat command is "live" and in real time, is there a paramater for that in linux too?
[03:12] <Alyxander> ExecutiveOrder, try changing from ascii to hex or vise versa and that your specifying the right encryption method
[03:12] <Alyxander> hey guys whats a *.mgr file?
[03:12] <eleaf> kitche, scp prints two lines saying each file doesn't exist (seperated by the space)
[03:12] <kitche> Heooo: umm what X isn't reborn unless your thinking of XFree86 ewhich is different developers and everything then X.org
[03:12] <LF|Irssi> i just see like static results on netstat
[03:12] <wyvern84> Can someone help me get my touchpad working right?
[03:13] <ExecutiveOrder> thats not the problem Alyxander i've done that
[03:13] <Heooo> kitche: What is so meaningful with X? Is the bottom line to replace some old protocols or create totally new protocols or make some other standards?
[03:13] <VistaUser> hey
[03:14] <kitche> Heooo: it has nothing to do with protocols or standards really
[03:14] <losetheshizzle> maybe they need to update the wiki to include instructions on getting a response in this channel.. or does the number of people seeking help outweigh those providing it?
[03:14] <losetheshizzle> seriously.. i have been working on a number of problems for 6 days with no responses
[03:14] <kitche> Alyxander: couldn't you just look up what .gr file it but it seems like a bitmap
[03:14] <genii> losetheshizzle: Since it's basically volunteer driven, the answer is Yes
[03:15] <NoIdeaMan> Hey, my wireless for some reason is not working. It works fine on Windows. It did work before.
[03:15] <Alyxander> kitche, it *.mgr and ive looked I think its an email file but I have no clue
[03:15] <ffgyul> Hi
[03:15] <kitche> losetheshizzle well considering it's volunteering if someone knows your anwser they will anwser if not then they won't
[03:15] <kitche> Alyxander: like I said it seems to be a bitmap
[03:15] <tux9778> hi ffgyul
[03:15] <ExecutiveOrder> there Alyxander
[03:15] <losetheshizzle> genii: thanks for replying.. once i start to have some success with my issues based on help i get here, i'll start learning and will be able to provide my help.. but without it.. there we are
[03:16] <ExecutiveOrder> its not the key
[03:16] <kitche> Alyxander: or a really old Apple II file
[03:16] <wyvern84> Can someone please help me get my touchpad working right?
[03:16] <genii> losetheshizzle: When someone is present which knows the answer or approach to solving your issue, they speak up and assist when the problem is presented. If you get no takers, likely no one in the room currently knows the issue
[03:16] <Alyxander> ExecutiveOrder, you tried changing from ascill to hex?
[03:16] <ffgyul> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 8.10 on my Vostro 1500 laptop. Everything seems to be going smoothly until I get to the point where I need to partition the discs. I allocate the space for ubuntu (windows is already installed on my PC) and when I click Next, it gives me a "Error while partitionning the disc, cancelling"
[03:16] <ExecutiveOrder> yes
[03:16] <ExecutiveOrder> its not the key
[03:17] <ExecutiveOrder> i've tried connecting to networks with no key and it does the same thing
[03:17] <genii> losetheshizzle: The forums can also be a good resource of information when IRC is not fruitful
[03:17] <tux9778> ffygyul have u tried the alternate cd
[03:17] <losetheshizzle> genii: thanks.. i lguess i'll try a couple of the other issues out then.. (btw, I've scoured the forums and tried alot already.. no success)..
[03:17] <ffgyul> Alternate CD? (I am a noob, sorry)
[03:17] <tux9778> its on the ubuntu site
[03:18] <tux9778> its a text base installer
[03:18] <NoIdeaMan> Hey, my wireless for some reason is not working. It works fine on Windows. It did work before.
[03:18] <tux9778> thats what i had to do to install it on my laptop ffgyul
[03:18] <ffgyul> hmm
[03:18] <ffgyul> thanks
[03:18] <ffgyul> ill check that out
[03:18] <Heooo> kitche: I read that X was used for collaboration of students. Has it anything to do with "screen"-command?
[03:18] <tux9778> np ffgyul
[03:18] <losetheshizzle> okay -- how about this one:  when booting, I have to hold down keys on the keyboard to make it continue booting.. it seems like this problem starts when it is checking out devices, specifically when it looks at usb
[03:19] <tux9778> ffgyul u need the link?
[03:19] <ExecutiveOrder> ok i just turned off roaming mode and manually set it now when i click on nm-applet it doesnt show my network
[03:19] <ExecutiveOrder> wtf is wrong with wireless
[03:19] <ExecutiveOrder> every distro it gets worse and worse
[03:20] <wyvern84> Can someone please help me get my touchpad working right? I'm running 8.10 and editing xorg.conf doesn't help.
[03:20] <OrcD3vil> I'm having trouble receiving files from IRC, I went into Firestarter and port opened ports 1024-5000 and DMZ'ed my internal IP Address anyone care to help
[03:20] <losetheshizzle> or how about this one: my nvidia display drivers are activated, but i only get 800x600 resolution
[03:20] <tux9778> wyverne84 using the alternate cd?
[03:21] <wyvern84> No, just the normal one.
[03:21] <Heooo> If I want to collaborate, should I use X, screen or something else? Are they substitutes?
[03:21] <losetheshizzle> or this -- i have to manually start dhclient from the terminal to have network access after every reboot
[03:21] <tux9778> get the alternate cd wyvern84 no probs out of my touchpad
[03:21] <losetheshizzle> << ethernet network access that is
[03:21] <ExecutiveOrder> roaming mode doesnt work either
[03:21] <losetheshizzle> those are all my issues.. if anyone can help with any one of them that would be great
[03:22] <scriptx> does the knetwork manager in kubuntu 8.10 suck or is it just me??
[03:22] <wyvern84> tux9778: how is the alt cd different?
[03:22] <maxbaldwin> scriptx: just you.
[03:22] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: worse from distro to distro?  Which distro are you coming from?
[03:22] <tux9778> text base installer and no probs out of it for my laptop onlything i noticed with running the reg was wouldn't load up to install it
[03:22] <mickster04> im using an asus eee 900 with a widescreen and i cant get the correct resolution. newmode doesnt work..help?
[03:23] <ExecutiveOrder> i've been on ubuntu since breezy
[03:23] <ExecutiveOrder> actually hoary
[03:23] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: did you mean from release to release?
[03:23] <tux9778> cool executiveorder
[03:23] <ExecutiveOrder> each release wireless gets worse
[03:23] <wyvern84> Well the install was completely successful for me with no unfixable problem up until now.
[03:23] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: which wireless chipset do you have?
[03:23] <DasEi1> eleaf : : either escape spaces with \ or quote with '' , try that
[03:24] <ExecutiveOrder> ipw2100
[03:24] <seede> what causes the find command to get stuck? i set it running a few times to hunt for some files and it goes for hours and doesnt find anything / exit. it just hangs there
[03:24] <ExecutiveOrder> it doesnt matter
[03:24] <tux9778> yuckie exectiveorder
[03:24] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: works like a charm
[03:24] <ExecutiveOrder> i've had six wireless cards
[03:24] <scriptx> maxbaldwin: thanks
[03:24] <scriptx> :/
[03:24] <ExecutiveOrder> its not a card problem
[03:24] <tritium> !enter | ExecutiveOrder
[03:24] <scriptx> knetwork manager see's that i have a wireless interface, but lists nothing and will not connect to anything manually
[03:24] <dinsdale07> I'm looking for the command to "release" a dhcp leased IP. Equivalent to ipconfig /release
[03:24] <gavagai> What do I have to do to play FLAC audio?  I did sudo apt get install flac, and installed it.  no media players will play FLAC, though.
[03:25] <maxbaldwin> scriptx: Well, your supposed to enter it yourself... :\
[03:25] <losetheshizzle> dinsdale07: i think sudo dhclient will work
[03:25] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: wireless support is very good on several wireless cards.  There are a few card- or manufacturer-specific issues, but in general, it is outstanding.
[03:25] <losetheshizzle> dinsdale07: but that also renews it
[03:25] <scriptx> even when i enter it myself, nothing happens.. it won't connect to it
[03:25] <scriptx> i don't understand why
[03:25] <dinsdale07> losetheshizzle, that's what I don't want - renew it. I'm troubleshooting something where it matters.
[03:26] <wyvern84> Can someone please help me get my touchpad working right? I'm running 8.10 and editing xorg.conf doesn't help. I've heard something about editing HAL. What is that?
[03:26] <ExecutiveOrder> i put my card into roaming mode it shows up wont connect, nm-applet just spins and asks for the key again or if theres no key it just keeps spinning forever , if i turn roaming mode off it disappears from the list and iwlist scan shows no networks
[03:26] <ExecutiveOrder> what do i do???
[03:26] <tritium> gavagai: the players would depend on libflac8
[03:26] <gavagai> tritium, thanks
[03:27] <gavagai> tritium, i just tried to install that and it said i already have the newest one.  but neither vlc nor rhythymbox will play flac
[03:27] <losetheshizzle> dinsdale07: okay.. i know there's another command i do think it starts with dh as well
[03:27] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> what chips does your wifi nic have?
[03:27] <GodfatherofEire> How would one find out what process is using a specific device?
[03:27] <ExecutiveOrder> thats not the problem n8tuser i've switched out six cards the current one is ipw2100
[03:27] <tritium> !flac | gavagai
[03:27] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire -> man  lsof
[03:28] <GodfatherofEire> n8tuser, thanks
[03:28] <vancomycin> any ideas how i can see videos on VLC player i can hear the audio but no video / even changed video output in vlc to x11 video and default outputs / no luck / medibuntu(w32codecs+libdvdss2) are installed / also did "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" - NO LUCK! video/audio plays in wmplayer - but there is an error that keeps flashing fast : [AO_ALSA] Unable to find simple control 'PCM',0 ///  file plays NORMAL in "movie
[03:28] <vancomycin> player" /// this is an avi (xvid mpeg-4) file for example.
[03:28] <losetheshizzle> dinsdale07: it's dhclient -r
[03:28] <dinsdale07> losetheshizzle, I have dhcdbd ....
[03:28] <ExecutiveOrder> wtf is roaming mode btw , that really screwed things up
[03:28] <drevan> baileys is the shizzle
[03:29] <vancomycin> using 8.10 with activated nvidia 177 drivers
[03:29] <dinsdale07> losetheshizzle, yes it works -  you are a star :-)
[03:29] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> what is listed when you do   sudo iwlist wlan0 scan   ?
[03:29] <OrcD3vil> I'm having trouble receiving files from IRC, I went into Firestarter and port opened ports 1024-5000 and DMZ'ed my internal IP Address anyone care to help
[03:29] <mickster04> im using an asus eee 900 with a widescreen and i cant get the correct resolution. newmode doesnt work..help?
[03:29] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: please don't use vulgar acronyms.  Keep the channel family-friendly.
[03:29] <PastorBones> How do I change PulseAudio to 5.1?
[03:29] <drevan> im using 8.10 with the 177 drivers too
[03:29] <losetheshizzle> dinsdale07: sweet.. that means i learned sumthin in the past 6 days of no success on my problems!
[03:29] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: roaming mode allows you to use DHCP, as opposed to setting static IP addresses.  It doesn't mess anything up.
[03:30] <ExecutiveOrder> i dont use wlan0 n8tuser
[03:30] <drevan> so like sometimes when im playing zsnes the screen will go black
[03:30] <dinsdale07> losetheshizzle, welcome to the club :-) what's your problem though?
[03:30] <drevan> and i can't exit out of it
[03:30] <drevan> what should i do?
[03:30] <ExecutiveOrder> sudo iwlist eth1 scan shows my network
[03:30] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> what is it?  can you do  ifconfig -a  and post it? also include  route -n
[03:30] <scriptx> i don't think kubuntu likes my wireless card very much.
[03:31] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: your router needs to have the dhcp server enabled for roaming mode to work.
[03:31] <losetheshizzle> dinsdale07, i have like 6 different issues.. my most annoying is a display driver problem.. it's activated, but resolution is still at 800x600
[03:31] <scriptx> though there is a wlan0, if i try to bring it up i get a SICOSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
[03:31] <mustard> hey guys. is it normal for partition resizing to be at 0% for almost 15 minutes, or am i just impatient?
[03:31] <drevan> gnome is so much better than kde
[03:31] <vancomycin> drevan, i'm having such a pain in the butt trying to find out how to get video played on vlc , let alone resolve the mplayer issue - it took a while for me to even get my external monitor recognized with my laptop - should have stuck to 8.04
[03:31] <drevan> vancomycin me too
[03:31] <drevan> i wish i would have
[03:31] <GodfatherofEire> Ok, n8tuser, I cant make head or tail of that
[03:31] <vancomycin> drevan, can u see video files via vlc?
[03:32] <NoIdeaMan> Hey, my wireless for some reason is not working. It works fine on Windows. It did work before.
[03:32] <drevan> yea vlc is working for me but mplayer is giving me problems
[03:32] <vancomycin> what are u seeing in mplayer?
[03:32] <drevan> I use to be able to play real media .rmvb files but they won't play anymore
[03:32] <marco_> Hello, does anyone know a good html and text reader that reliably marks the position of the last page read?
[03:33] <Ahmuck> is there a replacement in ubuntu for yaquake?
[03:33] <marco_> I'm thinking maybe gedit but also for htmls, something that hopefully is light and loads fast
[03:33] <Comrade-Sergei> how can i make a script run in the backround every 5 minutes
[03:33] <n8tuser> GodfatherofEire -> well you can try to google for ubuntu+lsof
[03:34] <OrcD3vil> Comrade-Sergei: try cron
[03:34] <GodfatherofEire> n8tuser, Alright, I'll give that a shot
[03:34] <marco_> Comrade-Sergei, using cron */5 * * * * command
[03:34] <Comrade-Sergei> OrcD3vil, heh thats what i told my prof he said I should use at but i want to do it with cron to prove him wrong lol
[03:35] <OrcD3vil> I could be wrong but at is older then cron
[03:35] <n8tuser> scriptx -> what shows up when you cat /sys/class/net ?
[03:35] <Comrade-Sergei> marco_, elaborate...? i have no idea what yyour syntax is there
[03:35] <Comrade-Sergei> OrcD3vil, i belive cron is based on at isnt it?
[03:35] <OrcD3vil> Anyone care to give me a hand trying to figure out why I can't accept XDCC transfers in IRC?
[03:35] <ExecutiveOrder> n8tuser, http://rafb.net/p/ymR3gi39.html
[03:35] <marco_> sergei: on crontab, the first five fields normally are reserved to minute, hour, day...
[03:35] <OrcD3vil> I believe it is.. but new coding means it runs more efficient
[03:36] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> also whats listed when you do  ls  /sys/class/net
[03:36] <marco_> * serves for "all", but by putting the slash there, you can make it run every /x units of the field in question
[03:36] <n8tuser> scriptx -> what shows up when you ls -la  /sys/class/net ?
[03:37] <marco_> it's all explained in more detail in the man page really. It's one of the "better" man pages on most linuxes IMHO
[03:37] <amikrop> What is the repos? http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu intrepid partner
[03:37] <amikrop> * this repos
[03:37] <tritium> amikrop: 3rd party repo
[03:37] <amikrop> It is added by default as thrid-party, but disabled.
[03:37] <ExecutiveOrder> eth0  eth1  lo n8tuser
[03:37] <SuperGeek> Hallow
[03:37] <amikrop> tritium: Why is it there by defaul, why is it disabled, and what kind of software does it provide?
[03:38] <SuperGeek> Can anyone recommend a good vendor of embedded systems?
[03:38] <Comrade-Sergei> OrcD3vil, hey i try to play with cron and it says its locked so i tried with sudo and it said some other process is using it? wtf?
[03:38] <amikrop> * by default
[03:38] <DasEi1> !repos | amikrop
[03:38] <tritium> amikrop: for vendors to place ubuntu-packaged software
[03:39] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> are you trying to have both wifi and ethernet active at same time?
[03:39] <zerodevice> hi macro_, i had apache setup, and i saw the www folder, problem is i cannot put any php files into it. and it would seems like i need a root access, but i thought the moment i setup ubuntu with the current account is also admin or root previlage?
[03:39] <marco_> does anyone know of a good html/txt ebook reader? One that remembers the last position of a page reliably after closure?
[03:39] <amikrop> tritium: No, I am not asking about Third-Party software. I am asking about that specific repository URL.
[03:39] <ExecutiveOrder> n8tuser, it doesnt matter even when i unplug ethernet i still cant get on
[03:39] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: instead of stating that wireless doens't work, you should not that your ethernet is active, and taking precedence.
[03:39] <zerodevice> tritium, i had apache setup, and i saw the www folder, problem is i cannot put any php files into it. and it would seems like i need a root access, but i thought the moment i setup ubuntu with the current account is also admin or root previlage?
[03:39] <OrcD3vil> Comrade-Sergei: sorry I havent' done linux in a while just installed it after 4 years not having it.. I can't even disable a firewall anymore to receive a File transfer in IRC
[03:39] <BIG123> can i have voice
[03:39] <B0BBY2> tot upgrade the dist should people use apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:39] <tritium> amikrop: that repo is for 3rd part software.  You didn't read or understand my reply.
[03:40] <ExecutiveOrder> it doesnt matter tritium i didnt have any ethernet when it stopped working 4 weeks ago or up until just a couple days ago
[03:40] <seede> can anyone help me here, i really cant find information on the "find" command. it locks up long searches. maybe i should be excluding certain file types>?
[03:40] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> just unplugging it will not going to fix it, you have to disable eth0 and eth1 then activate just eth1
[03:40] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: it does matter.
[03:40] <ExecutiveOrder> i did that n8tuser
[03:40]  * tritium wonders what makes ExecutiveOrder think it doesn't matter
[03:40] <marco_> zerodevice: I'm not the best person to ask about apache's ins and outs, but ubuntu's default account doesn't have root access. root tasks are accomplished via "sudo"
[03:40] <ExecutiveOrder> i even blacklisted b44
[03:40] <chilliwack> I'm trying to install 8.10 from a live CD (actually USB...), and it's been about 20 minutes so far and I'm still at 0% progress resizing my partition. Anyone know if that's normal?
[03:41] <marco_> zerodevice: "man sudo" for more details. Or just use "sudo -i" to get a root prompt
[03:41] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> you have to be more specific on what you have done, i could not guess what transpired,
[03:41] <amikrop> tritium: what kind of vendors?
[03:41] <B0BBY2> 
[03:41] <B0BBY2> ;;''
[03:41] <amikrop> tritium: and what kind of software?
[03:41] <tritium> B0BBY2: please stop
[03:41] <mickster04> does anyone have an idea what to do about an asus eee resolution problem?
[03:41] <marco_> does anyone here read html ebooks regularly?
[03:41] <B0BBY2> tritium: sorry, was trying control keys with my irssi client.
[03:41] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> 1st thing right now, is, are you chatting from same host?
[03:42] <amikrop> tritium: I mean, what additional software will I have available if I enable that repos?
[03:42] <zerodevice> macro_, yes i understand that it would work on sudo, but im on gui and wanted to work directly or ftp files to apache.www but it doesnt work and its blocked by root usage.
[03:42] <ExecutiveOrder> n8tuser, i've done a clean install , booted to dapper, edgy , gutsy they all do the same thing
[03:42] <ExecutiveOrder> yes n8tuser
[03:42] <ExecutiveOrder> i cant get wireless so im forced to use ethernet
[03:42] <JeffPB> Evening all.  Question for the experts:  My firefox fonts look pretty bad.  I've tried the solutions from the forums (msfonts, changing preferences in FF, the liberation fonts).  The problem seems to be that the font settings for Ubuntu don't seem to apply within the FF window.  Anybody have any ideas?
[03:42] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> if you are already chatting now on same host, you are using ethernet correct and not wifi? eth0 ?
[03:42] <ExecutiveOrder> when it stopped working i wasnt doing anything , i hadnt installed anything and i wasnt browsing anything
[03:42] <orifice> I'm having trouble with fglrx - I'm having really slow performance (~60fps in glxgears) eventhough the fglrx driver is loaded correctly according to xorg.0.log
[03:43] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: disable  your ethernet completely if you want to use the wireless.  network-manager will use ethernet in preference to wireless
[03:43] <ExecutiveOrder> yes n8tuser correct
[03:43] <orifice> I've enabled composite extensions
[03:43] <orifice> removed compiz
[03:43] <amikrop> tritium: ?
[03:43] <tritium> amikrop: 3rd-party, from vendors, as I've stated
[03:43] <ExecutiveOrder> i've already tried that tritium
[03:43] <DasEi1> eleaf : did that work ?
[03:43] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: no you haven't.  I see it's still enabled from your pastebin.
[03:43] <amikrop> tristan: From what vendors, what software?
[03:43] <ExecutiveOrder> not right now
[03:43] <ExecutiveOrder> i've tried it before
[03:43] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> follow tritium advise, you have to disable eth0  completely, not just unplugging the cable, ie  sudo ifdown eth0 and same with eth1;   then sudo ifup eth1
[03:43] <marco_> zerodevice: you should seek the documentation for your ftp package then. Many ftp packages block root access by default for security reasons. On ubuntu, it wouldn't be possible to log in on ftp as root normally, and files created using "sudo" are owned by the root account
[03:43] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: ipw2100 is *very well* supported
[03:44] <amikrop> tritium: From what vendors, what software?
[03:44] <B0BBY2> clear
[03:44] <tritium> amikrop: various
[03:44] <ExecutiveOrder> n8tuser, ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
[03:44] <Comrade-Sergei> In crontab can i put two commands to execute at a certain time?
[03:44] <marco_> zerodevice: the solution, in my wholly ignorance of all things apache, would be to allow unprivileged access to the directories in question
[03:44] <B0BBY2> is it better to do a clean install or to upgrade from within.
[03:44] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> which nic interface name is your ethernet? isnt it eth0?
[03:44] <amikrop> tritium: Why isn't that in software in Multiverse, for example?
[03:45] <ExecutiveOrder> yes n8tuser
[03:45] <tritium> amikrop: because it's not open-source.
[03:45] <NYHippo> any evolution experts?
[03:45] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> type the exact command you used --
[03:45] <tritium> amikrop: e.g., Parallels, Zimbra Desktop, etc.
[03:45] <amikrop> tritium: Why isn't it in "restricted"?
[03:45] <ExecutiveOrder> sudo ifdown eth0
[03:45] <marco_> Comrade-Sergei: you can make two commands run at the same time using two entries
[03:45] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: please pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[03:46] <marco_> or you could use "&&" or ";" to make them run in sequence, although it's a bit ugly IMHO
[03:46] <ExecutiveOrder> auto lo
[03:46] <ExecutiveOrder> iface lo inet loopback
[03:46] <ExecutiveOrder>  tritium
[03:46] <Comrade-Sergei> marco_, well i want to get a wget download to download to the right place so i need to cd there first right?
[03:46] <LoveGuru> l00l
[03:46] <marco_> if you want to impress your teacher though, it would do good to go through a book of bash/korn/favorite shell basics
[03:46] <LoveGuru> ExecutiveOrder: there is no interface for eth0
[03:46] <ExecutiveOrder> i know that
[03:47] <ExecutiveOrder> even when i had one in it didnt work
[03:47] <amikrop> tritium: ?
[03:47] <marco_> Comrade-Sergei: if I'm not mistaken, you can specify the output file on wget. Refer to the man page
[03:47] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> something is not matching up to what you are telling us..
[03:47] <LoveGuru> n8tuser: correct.
[03:47] <Comrade-Sergei> marco_, i was just researching that
[03:47] <amikrop> tritium: ?
[03:48] <tritium> amikrop: CALM DOWN
[03:48] <LoveGuru> ExecutiveOrder: try ifconfig and paste it to pastebin
[03:48] <ExecutiveOrder> what else do you need n8tuser
[03:48] <amikrop> tritium: :)
[03:48] <marco_> May I recommend "learning the korn shell", it's a bit dense, but it has done me much good and it's not so hard to get into
[03:48] <ExecutiveOrder> LoveGuru, http://rafb.net/p/jVKmOY22.html
[03:48] <uda> when using mkdosfs on a blank memory stick (assume sdf), would it be best to run it on sdf, or create a partition, and run it on sdf1?
[03:49] <marco_> it's also easily available, albeit illegally... :(
[03:49] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: as you can see, your ethernet *is* active
[03:49] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> that shows you have eth0 but when you tried to bring it down, it tells you no eth0 exist?
[03:49] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: please pastebin (not paste in the channel) your /etc/network/interfaces
[03:49] <LoveGuru> ExecutiveOrder: u have to add eth0 in the interfaces
[03:49] <dr_willis> uda,  as far as i know you MUST use sdf1.    thats how disks work.. :) sdf would be the whole device.. and  you dont normally format those.
[03:49] <LoveGuru> n8tuser: bec0z eth0 is not present in interfaces.
[03:49] <Comrade-Sergei> marco_, so like wget -o www.whatever.com/filetoget /home/myname/thisisthefileineed    ?
[03:50] <marco_> what do you people use to read html ebooks?
[03:50] <LoveGuru> When the System load the Interfaces there is no eth0 there which services goes UP
[03:50] <ExecutiveOrder> yes n8tuser
[03:50] <amikrop> tritium: I just wonder why this software isn't in the "restricted" repos...
[03:50] <ExecutiveOrder> why tritium its what i just pasted in the channel
[03:50] <n8tuser> LoveGuru -> he just pasted the results of ifconfig and it shows eth0
[03:50] <uda> dr_willis, im fairly certain i formatted a raw device (sd card) before and it worked. :S
[03:50] <marco_> Comrade-Sergei: not sure, but I think the output file should be right next to the "-o" option, let me just be sure...
[03:51] <ExecutiveOrder> LoveGuru, i tried that a while ago it didnt do anything
[03:51] <tritium> amikrop: likely because the drivers in restricted are ubuntu-packaged, whereas the software in the partner repo would be packaged for ubuntu by the third-party vendor
[03:51] <LoveGuru> n8tuser: i m talking about interfaces. when *nix starts its looking in interfaces. which one is there or not.
[03:51] <dr_willis> uda,  i would be very suprised if it did.  go for it..  who knows what else may get confused by it. :)
[03:51] <ExecutiveOrder> i was looking on the forums for a fix and it said to do that but it didnt help
[03:51] <schwinn434> hi
[03:51] <LoveGuru> ExecutiveOrder: if u dont mind would u try it again.
[03:51] <amikrop> tritium: Aha. Why Skype is not there?
[03:51] <marco_> Comrade-Sergei: "-o" seems to be the logfile output option... not sure if that's what you want to do :-)
[03:51] <amikrop> tritium: Also, why Frostwire in nowhere?
[03:51] <dr_willis> !frostwire
[03:52] <schwinn434> new user to ubuntu
[03:52] <tritium> amikrop: I can't answer for them
[03:52] <ExecutiveOrder> do i just need eth0 right now LoveGuru or eth1 too?
[03:52] <uda> dr_willis, that sd card worked on a gamecube, but i never tested it on anything else. i guess ill create a partition to play it safe this time
[03:52] <schwinn434> having problems with my sound
[03:52] <schwinn434> can anyone help
[03:52] <maxbaldwin> This channel is pretty much never quiet, huh?
[03:52] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> did you paste your  /etc/network/interfaces file?   and also  ls -la /sys/class/net
[03:52] <ExecutiveOrder> http://rafb.net/p/8EQMhw10.html
[03:52] <shiv_j> I am unable to move panel. When I right click on it, it gives me 2 choices help and about panel. Plz help
[03:52] <Ahmuck> how do i turn off composting/visual effects ?
[03:52] <Comrade-Sergei> marco_, what are you reading the same man entry as i am?
[03:53] <ExecutiveOrder> http://rafb.net/p/1VWLWC54.html
[03:53] <ExecutiveOrder> n8tuser*
[03:53] <amikrop> tritium: OK. Thank you very much, and excuse me for asking many questions. :-)
[03:53] <Comrade-Sergei> marco_, ah yea you were right
[03:53] <marco_> Sergei: I'm reading "man wget"
[03:53] <Comrade-Sergei> marco_, damn
[03:53] <mickster04> does anyone have an idea what to do about an asus eee 900 resolution problem?
[03:53] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: your ethernet is plugged in at the moment?
[03:54] <zerodevice> does anyone knows why is apache under a root access level? i cant place any files into www with the user account i created while installing ubuntu
[03:54] <LoveGuru> tritium: i think so becoz it shows in "ifconfig"
[03:54] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> suggest you add an entry for your eth0 on your /etc/network/interfaces file
[03:54] <tritium> LoveGuru: right
[03:54] <dr_willis> zerodevice,  security? :)  why should a user be able to do that.. why just one user..
[03:54] <LoveGuru> n8tuser: thats what i m saying add that entry
[03:54] <LoveGuru> it should be work then
[03:55] <tritium> n8tuser, LoveGuru, ExecutiveOrder: agreed.
[03:55] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> btw, that result of  ls -la /sys/class/net  is really odd, it should have shown as  eth0  lo and eth1
[03:55] <Fiyawerx> will I run into any problems using the ubuntu-8.10-beta-desktop-i386.iso image to install then upgrading?
[03:55] <shiv_j> I am unable to move panel. When I right click on it, it gives me 2 choices help and about panel. Plz help
[03:55] <LoveGuru> n8tuser: he is gone.
[03:55] <schwinn434> I have a HP dv6000 laptop
[03:55] <marco_> Comrade-Sergei: If your downloading just one file, the "-O" options seems suitable
[03:55] <schwinn434> initial install went well
[03:55] <tritium> Unbelievable.  How unappreciative.
[03:55] <n8tuser> the sudo ifdown eth0  must have worked...hehehe
[03:55] <dr_willis> Fiyawerx,  proberly not.. but its lible to download several 100mb of upgrades  right off the start.. so it may be better do download a newer iso.
[03:55] <ExecutiveOrder> LoveGuru,
[03:55] <schwinn434> ubuntu working great
[03:55] <zerodevice> dr_willis, i m trying to make my server a apache server, and it works with the html displayed, but i cannot place any of my files in there to setup a proper website. and i noticed its under "root" and i've change my user group to "rtto" but still no luck.
[03:55] <Comrade-Sergei> marco_, ive missed that one what does it do , andd yes i am downloading just one file
[03:55] <LoveGuru> ExecutiveOrder: yes
[03:56] <ExecutiveOrder> i edited my /etc/network/interface file with what you said
[03:56] <schwinn434> then sound went out using firefox
[03:56] <ExecutiveOrder> and as soon as i did i couldnt get a connection
[03:56] <LoveGuru> hmm
[03:56] <schwinn434> not about to here any sound through Firefox
[03:56] <ExecutiveOrder> i pinged out and couldnt open any new pages in firefox
[03:56] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> paste the results now of your /etc/network/interfaces with whatever addition you made
[03:56] <LoveGuru> Yes
[03:56] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: you need to restart network-manager any time you edit /etc/network/interfaces
[03:56] <dr_willis> zerodevice,  you could copy the files over as root. or perhaps  set up where that user has the proper permissiopns to do so.. Ive never done that  myself.
[03:56] <marco_> Comrade-Sergei: search for "-O" on the man page. To search a man page, type "/" then the query
[03:56] <ExecutiveOrder> i put auto eth0  ,   iface eth0 inet dhcp
[03:56] <ExecutiveOrder> as soon as i did i lost my connection
[03:57] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> btw, that result of  ls -la /sys/class/net  is really odd, it should have shown as  eth0  lo and eth1 not a symlink
[03:57] <ExecutiveOrder> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart tritium ?
[03:57] <marco_> Comrade-Sergei: "man man" and quite a bit of patience may do you some good ;-)
[03:57] <vahnx> anyone know how to disable the kde effects? its not using compiz fusion, just default effects
[03:57] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: that's because network-manager doesn't manage interfaces manually configured in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:57] <LoveGuru> ExecutiveOrder: Did u restart ur connect ? as tristan said
[03:57] <Comrade-Sergei> marco_, lol I was using -o instead of -O
[03:57] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: no, /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager restart
[03:57] <zerodevice> dr_willis, yes i was thinking that i could copy as a root, but my problem is i cant login as root, i changed the password and it works if im on sudo, but it doesnt when i am on gui login.
[03:57] <losetheshizzle> well issue down 5 to go
[03:57] <ExecutiveOrder> i'll edit it and try again
[03:57] <ExecutiveOrder> brb
[03:58] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: please read /usr/share/doc/network-manager/README.Debian
[03:58] <vahnx> you have to enable root in some settings i think be u can log in from the login window
[03:58] <Comrade-Sergei> marco_, thanks that worked great!
[03:58] <marco_> Comrade-Sergei: Welcome to the unix shell ;-)
[03:58] <losetheshizzle> anyone know why my network doesn't start on  it's own?  have to manually make it find dhcp settings with dhclient
[03:58] <dr_willis> zerodevice,   Not sure what you broke there..  if you set a root password then 'su' may work.
[03:58] <marco_> Comrade-Sergei: it was no problem really :-)
[03:58] <LoveGuru> n8tuser: if he add that eth0 entry in interfaces, then restart the services it should be work
[03:58] <n8tuser> LoveGuru -> agreed
[03:59] <Comrade-Sergei> marco_, always fun, Ive been working on this project for two nights now
[03:59] <dr_willis> zerodevice,  you DONT login to X as root..  learn to use the terminal commands to do 'root' type tasks.. direct logging to X as root is disabled in the GDM config.. and could be considered very dangerous. :)
[03:59] <vahnx> zerodevice go to the login window and i think theres a checkbox to allow root to login
[03:59] <zerodevice> dr_willis, i know the su may work in a terminal, but after i login to the terminal that doesnt seems to affact anything at al. i am still not a root user when i browse the folder.
[03:59] <n8tuser> LoveGuru -> also you noticed the result of his  ls -la /sys/class/net  its a symlink,   usually those are not symlinks
[03:59] <ndf> how can i get my desktop to stop showing mounts?
[03:59] <zerodevice> wahnx, ok i'll try. thanks
[03:59] <LoveGuru> n8tuser: ya its looklike so odd.
[03:59] <vahnx> zerodevice np, dont worry root is not as dangerous as people say
[03:59] <n9ne> ndf, gconf-editor
[03:59] <dr_willis> zerodevice,  i always use 'mc' in a terminal to do file manageing as root.. i NEVER run  the gnome file manager as root.. it can cause issues.
[03:59] <dmulholland> hey, i just ran a command that decided to use up all my RAM (while I had a simulation paused...) is there any command to flush swap back into RAM?
[03:59] <n9ne> !gconf | ndf
[04:00] <n9ne> er you should ;)
[04:00] <LoveGuru> lol
[04:00] <NoIdeaMan> Hey, my wireless for some reason is not working. It works fine on Windows. It did work before.
[04:00] <emendo> Why is ubuntu (in my opinion and I'm sure yours too) the easiest distribution?
[04:00] <Comrade-Sergei> marco_, hey whats the first # for in crontab?
[04:00] <vahnx> NoIdeaMan go to i think preferences and see if it shows up in restricted driver manager
[04:00] <dr_willis> zerodevice,  if you logged in as root in a terminal. Like with sudo -s  . any apps you run in that term.. will be geting ran as root.
[04:00] <ndf> !gconf-editor
[04:00] <Comrade-Sergei> marco_, seconds?
[04:00] <kusanagi_> an easy one: how do i acess remotely one ubuntu box from another one?
[04:00] <vahnx> i mean driver manager
[04:00] <ndf> lol
[04:00] <ndf> but yes
[04:00] <ndf> i know what you mean
[04:00] <FloodBot3> ndf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:00] <marco_> MINUTES
[04:00] <ndf> where is the setting?
[04:00] <LoveGuru> !wireless NoIdeaMan
[04:00] <NoIdeaMan> I work just the other day
[04:00] <AllareRegistered> how do i restart vnc from a terminal?
[04:00] <Fiyawerx> emendo: because that is what they aim to be
[04:01] <n9ne> ndf, search for desktop or nautilus
[04:01] <n9ne> its in there
[04:01] <dr_willis> AllareRegistered,  how dod you start it?
[04:01] <ndf> k
[04:01] <marco_> unless you mean a literal "#", then we call that a comment
[04:01] <ExecutiveOrder> LoveGuru, n8tuser tritium
[04:01] <ExecutiveOrder> same problem
[04:01] <n9ne> ndf, i don't have gconf-editor installed right now
[04:01] <AllareRegistered> dr_willis, i didnt, i chose to start it in mythbuntu control center
[04:01] <ExecutiveOrder> http://rafb.net/p/RtC4UW32.html
[04:01] <marco_>  
[04:01] <losetheshizzle> anyone know how to have me atheros wifi card recognized properly?
[04:02] <schwinn434> newbie here and need some guidance with a sound problem in firefox
[04:02]  * quagga pokes ubottu.  /me thinks the bot needs cpr
[04:02] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> are you running your linux in a  virtualbox or vmware?
[04:02] <emendo> Fiyawerx: Specifically, what have they done differently? Why do not others follow?
[04:02] <dr_willis> AllareRegistered,  if its a service it may be 'sudo /etc/init.d/PROPERNAMEHERE  restart' - you may need to look in that dir. to find its proper name.. or the #mythbuntu guys may know
[04:02] <Comrade-Sergei> marco_, didnt there used to be a gui to crontab?
[04:02] <marco_> Does anyone know a good html/txt ebook reader?
[04:02] <ExecutiveOrder> no n8tuser
[04:02] <Comrade-Sergei> marco_, something like sessions?
[04:02] <mickster04> does anyone have an idea what to do about an asus eee 900 resolution problem? #
[04:03] <mickster04> still
[04:03] <quagga> mickster04: what problem?
[04:03] <AllareRegistered> dr_willis, nope its not in there i allready checked
[04:03] <sum-it> hi all i need an offline dictionary in ubuntu how to do that?
[04:03] <dmulholland> anyone know how to flush anything pushed out to swap back into RAM?
[04:03] <ExecutiveOrder> you have any idea whats wrong n8tuser ?
[04:03] <mickster04> well imy resolution wont go abve 8000x600#
[04:03] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> and result of your ifconfig -a  again?
[04:03] <AllareRegistered> dr_willis, #ubuntu-mythtv is kindof dead at this hour
[04:03] <marco_> Comrade-Sergei: if there was one, I never heard about it, sorry
[04:03] <mickster04> 8800 600
[04:03] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> i dont see anything wrong with what you jsut pasted..
[04:03] <quagga> mickster04: do you have an external monitor?
[04:03] <mickster04> nope
[04:03] <ExecutiveOrder> the interfaces n8tuser ?
[04:03] <LoveGuru> ExecutiveOrder: try "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:04] <Conexion> mickster04: Have you tried looking at installing eeebuntu?
[04:04] <ExecutiveOrder> i did LoveGuru
[04:04] <dr_willis> AllareRegistered,   Not messed with mythbuntu in ages.. so cant tell ya any more. could check  out put of ps ax | less and see if it shows the vnc server. and how it got ran.
[04:04] <LoveGuru> ExecutiveOrder: the interfaces right now
[04:04] <ExecutiveOrder> i lost my connection as soon as i put what you told me into interfaces
[04:04] <mickster04> well i kinda hoped i could keep intrepid
[04:04] <mickster04> uni wireless is a bit fussy
[04:04] <ExecutiveOrder> its back to my original LoveGuru
[04:04] <ExecutiveOrder> i took what you told me out
[04:04] <quagga> mickster04: my wind does 1024x800 out of the box with intrepid so i'm sure the eee can be coaxed into working
[04:04] <Conexion> mickster04: You may just need to edit your xorg file and add your resolution
[04:04] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> just the ifconfig -a  results
[04:04] <ExecutiveOrder> as soon as i put what you told me in i lose my connection
[04:05] <LoveGuru> ExecutiveOrder: try "sudo ifdown eth0" then "sudo ifup eth0"
[04:05] <ExecutiveOrder> http://rafb.net/p/Xwt9m152.html
[04:05] <mickster04> well i tried that but it says the mode doesnt excist
[04:05] <mickster04> and newmode fails
[04:05] <Conexion> mickster04: It has a bizarre resolution to begin with. I installed Feisty on my Eee without any resolution issue
[04:05] <ExecutiveOrder> johnny@netlink:~$ sudo ifdown eth0
[04:05] <ExecutiveOrder> ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
[04:05] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: did you configure it in /etc/network/interfaces?
[04:05] <LoveGuru> try to ifup
[04:05] <mickster04> 1024x600?
[04:05] <Conexion> hmmm
[04:05] <Conexion> Yup
[04:05] <ExecutiveOrder> yes tritium and i lost my connection
[04:06] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: which is normal, as I said
[04:06] <ExecutiveOrder> LoveGuru, Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.
[04:06] <LoveGuru> ExecutiveOrder: then u remove it again? to get connection again ?
[04:06] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: I told you to read /usr/share/doc/network-manager/README.Debian
[04:06] <wyvern84> Can someone please help me get my touchpad working right? I'm running 8.10 and editing xorg.conf doesn't help. I've heard something about editing HAL. What is that?
[04:06] <quagga> mickster04: you're telling it to use the intel driver correct?
[04:06] <ExecutiveOrder> yes LoveGuru
[04:06] <losetheshizzle> mickster04: your adapter is a Intel Mobile 945 GME Integrated Craphics controllor.. do you see the proper driver in System > Administration > Hardware Drivers?
[04:06] <marco_> I have this thing called an "ebook", it has some letters in the name... "html" it seems... I can open it in firefox but it doesn't save the page I'm on... is there a better way to read this thingie?
[04:06] <mickster04> i dont
[04:06] <node357> Xchat keeps closing itself!
[04:06] <ndf> found it
[04:06] <mickster04> i only see wlan drivers
[04:06] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: network-manager _ignores_ devices manually configured on /etc/network/interfaces.  If you want it to ignore the ethernet, and use the wireless, you need to do this.
[04:06] <ndf> thanks
[04:07] <overlordpuppy> The input on my wired mic isn't working and the input on my bluetooth headset isn't working. Why?
[04:07] <mickster04> :/
[04:07] <n9ne> yup
[04:07] <marco_> oh, I'm also a bit naive in all this computer things, if it's easy to install, all the better
[04:07] <quagga> mickster04: you won't see video drivers in there
[04:07] <quagga> mickster04: since intel uses open source drivers, they aren't restricted
[04:07] <dr_willis> marco_,  sounds like its just a html file thats calling itself an electronic book.  no fancy ebook features..  there maybe some firefox extensions that might help you  keep track of where you are at on the pages
[04:07] <LoveGuru> ExecutiveOrder: i think thats the problem edit interfaces again after that. do "sudo /etc/init.d/networking start" then "sudo ifdown eth0" then "sudo ifup eth0"
[04:07] <mickster04> so how do i now if i have ;em
[04:07] <mickster04> them*
[04:08] <tritium> LoveGuru: he needs to restart network-manager, as I told him after editing that file.
[04:08] <LoveGuru> ExecutiveOrder: u edit that line then u didn't get connection, then u edit it again and remove those lines.. thats the problem the eht0 interface won't up.
[04:08] <LoveGuru> ExecutiveOrder: do that what tritum said thats fine.
[04:08] <marco_> dr_willis: I was looking maybe for a more lightweight program than firefox though... Seems like I'm bit out of luck then, eh?
[04:08] <wyvern84> Can someone please help me get my touchpad working right? I'm running 8.10 and editing xorg.conf doesn't help. I've heard something about editing HAL. What is that?
[04:08] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> do not use the   /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager to restart your network..follow what LoveGuru advise
[04:08] <losetheshizzle> mickster04: i donk't think you have the right drivers
[04:08] <marco_> dr_willis: which is quite strange seeing how popular html ebooks are
[04:08] <LoveGuru> ExecutiveOrder: looklike working now ;S
[04:08] <mickster04> well anychance you could tell me how to?
[04:08] <quagga> marco_: dillo perhaps if there is no javascript?
[04:09] <losetheshizzle> mickster04: check out this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=545821
[04:09] <LoveGuru> :>
[04:09] <mickster04> linux beginner i apologise
[04:09] <marco_> quagga: hmmm, dillo is quite light... does it remember the last page? I'll go and take a look...
[04:09] <ExecutiveOrder> tritium,
[04:09] <ExecutiveOrder> i did what you said
[04:09] <quagga> marco_: that i'm not sure of
[04:09] <ExecutiveOrder> now it shows im connected
[04:09] <LoveGuru> l0ol
[04:09] <quagga> mickster04: i can give you the xorg.conf i use on the Wind.  i'm not sure how that'll go on an eee
[04:09] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: via wireless?
[04:09] <LoveGuru> thats cool :)
[04:09] <ExecutiveOrder> but as soon as i unplug my ethernet i lose my connection
[04:09] <ExecutiveOrder> no
[04:09] <dr_willis> marco_,  the term html-ebook. means very little i imagine..     Ive never seen a browser that could 'bookmark' the exact line you were on - when reading a long single page.
[04:10] <ExecutiveOrder> nm-applet shows im connected using wireless
[04:10] <ExecutiveOrder> i have full bars
[04:10] <ExecutiveOrder> but as soon as i unplug ethernet i lose my connection
[04:10] <mepholic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKpClS00X68&fmt=18
[04:10] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: did you read /usr/share/doc/network-manager/README.Debian yet?
[04:10] <mickster04> kk
[04:10] <LoveGuru> n8tuser: well im not familiar with kde/gnome :S familiar with cmd prompt :S
[04:10] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> paste your  route -n results
[04:10] <tritium> mepholic: stop that
[04:10] <mepholic> llololol
[04:11]  * tritium warns mepholic to stay on topic
[04:11] <marco_> dr_willis: yeah, I'm almost converting this to PDF just to read it the way I like... My definition of ebook is quite broad though. If it's a book and if I can read on a computer I call it an ebook
[04:11] <ExecutiveOrder> http://rafb.net/p/xFguSH54.html n8tuser
[04:11] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: did you read that yet?  You need to understand how NM works.
[04:11] <dr_willis> marco_,  define 'book' :)
[04:11] <xscottx3> :)
[04:12] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> that looks okay,..and follow advise of tritium to get understanding of nm
[04:12] <dr_willis> marco_,  i do belive there a specific (well several) ebook formats . that are not just html. or ascii.   Not that ive ever messed with them.
[04:12] <ExecutiveOrder> i read it
[04:13] <kdogg> my laptop wont boot now i get a error" (initramfs) [ 34.404.030] ata2: srst failed (errno=-16)
[04:13] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: so, you understand that 1) your ethernet needs to be configured manually so NM will ignore it, and that 2) you need to restart NM after you edit /etc/network/interfaces, right?
[04:13] <marco_> dr_willis, for me, anything that spans more than 50 pages, save for children's books... not a very sophisticated definition, but, well, works for me :-)
[04:13] <DasEi1> overlordpuppy: alsamixer installed ?
[04:13] <ExecutiveOrder> right now nm-applet is showing me connected to wireless tritium
[04:13] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: so, please pastebin your newly-edited /etc/network/interfaces, showing the eth0 configuration
[04:13] <dr_willis> marco_,  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=ebook&cat=all    some of those may do what you need
[04:13] <losetheshizzle> mickster04 -- you're going to need to do this: http://absolutebeginner.wordpress.com/2006/08/20/absolute-beginner-guide-915resolution/
[04:14] <ExecutiveOrder> http://rafb.net/p/wMkgf539.html
[04:14] <tritium> losetheshizzle: 915resolution is old, and not needed anymore
[04:14] <dr_willis> marco_,  eReader 0.4 seems to have what you asked for
[04:14] <mickster04> KK
[04:14] <quagga> losetheshizzle: the intel driver now does modesetting.  i don't use 915resolution and it works fine
[04:14] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: you configured it for "auto".  That will automatically bring eth0 up, which you don't want.
[04:15] <overlordpuppy> DasEi1: Yes.
[04:15] <losetheshizzle> oh..  i'm trying to google the solutions here.. :)
[04:15] <ExecutiveOrder> thats what LoveGuru asked me to put in
[04:15] <DasEi1> overlordpuppy:soundcard shows up correctly in gui ?
[04:15] <losetheshizzle> my brother is looking to do the same thing so if something works for mickster04, it will work for him
[04:15] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: you want wireless, not ethernet, so you *don't* want "auto eth0"
[04:16] <mickster04> i ant find anything with 945 in the spm
[04:16] <marco_> dr_willis: hmm! Looks interesting, will take a look at that. Thanks!
[04:16] <LoveGuru> ExecutiveOrder: ahh sorry i didn't know that u won't need its auto.
[04:16] <ExecutiveOrder> what should i set?
[04:16] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: delete line 4
[04:17] <ExecutiveOrder> and then restart nm tritium
[04:17] <quagga> mickster04: have you tried creating an xorg.conf yet?
[04:17] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: now, when you "sudo ifdown eth0", it will bring down that interface (and you'll be disconnected).  Then, restart NM as I told you before.  Then, it should bring up the wireless.
[04:18] <mickster04> yeah, it didnt work cos the mode didnt exist
[04:18] <kdogg> anyone know what Driver 'sd' needs updating- please use bus type methods means?
[04:18] <hotte-> i have a big problem.... my wlan0 isnt here anymore. what can i do? sudo ifconfig says no device :( but yesterday i got a wlan0
[04:19] <e-frame> horray, my intrepid cd has come just now >:D<
[04:20] <nintendork32> is there any irc bouncer that can be installed via synaptic or apt-get/aptidude?
[04:20] <n8tuser> hotte- -> is it listed if you do   ls -la /sys/class/net  ?
[04:20] <nintendork32> aptitude*
[04:20] <sum-it> i need help in installing offline dictionary in ubuntu 8.04
[04:20] <quagga> mickster04: have you read the article on eeeuser on ubuntu?  since it specifies an answer
[04:20] <tritium> nintendork32: znc (found via "apt-cache search irc | grep bounce")
[04:20] <mickster04> it didnt help
[04:21] <mickster04> i didnt find owt
[04:21] <hotte-> n8tuser, no :(
[04:21] <n8tuser> hotte- -> then you need to reboot and see if dmesg will detect it and again verify with that ls -la /sys/class/net
[04:21] <quagga> mickster04: you have to set the driver to "intel" in xorg.conf.  if you installed in safe mode it defaults to the vesa driver
[04:22] <quagga> mickster04: the vesa driver will not do mode setting and thus, you will remain in 800x600 mode
[04:22] <tritium> hotte-: hold on the reboot.  Was yesterday the first day you got it working?  Did you have to load a module?  What type of wireless card?
[04:22] <mickster04> ooooh
[04:22] <mickster04> i have left it at vesa
[04:22] <hotte-> i rebooted 2 times... :( i tried windows xp too and there it works fine
[04:22] <tritium> hotte-: hotte- see my questions
[04:23] <hotte-> how to hold on?
[04:23] <ExecutiveOrder> that didnt work tritium
[04:23] <grendal_prime> !hardware
[04:23] <tritium> hotte-: I meant not to reboot
[04:23] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: in what way?
[04:23] <ExecutiveOrder> http://rafb.net/p/KyI6aE67.html
[04:23] <ExecutiveOrder> in the same way
[04:23] <hotte-> ahh tritium
[04:23] <ExecutiveOrder> did the exact same thing
[04:23] <ExecutiveOrder> only this time i lost the connection even when i had the ethernet plugged in
[04:23] <hotte-> ok, no the last half year it works fine for me
[04:24] <ShawnR> does anyone know if there is an iSCSI target that I can run (free) that has a webmin interface to it?  makes it much easier to manage when i'm not at home
[04:24] <ExecutiveOrder> it showd i was connected via wireless , i had full bars , but it wouldnt let me connect
[04:24] <qcjn> hi, how can i review my alias
[04:24] <MarZau> any one here using intrepid?
[04:24] <allen_> here
[04:24] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> i have not looked at /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager, but can you try to use  /etc/init.d/networking restart instead?
[04:25] <ssmy_> MarZau: I wish. putting it on my laptop tomorrow.
[04:25] <mickster04> ill be bac l8r then:D reboot time
[04:25] <elgreek84> anyone know how to enable auto-rejoin on pidgin IRC?
[04:25] <hotte-> tritium, n8tuser i got a dell notebook vostro with an intel network card pci
[04:25] <ExecutiveOrder> i did n8tuser
[04:25] <ExecutiveOrder> same thing
[04:25] <grendal_prime> Anyone running 8.10 with an ati radeon 9200 vid card
[04:25] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: you're saying NM won't connect?  Are you using security?  Does it ask for your key?  Please be specific.  Where is it "not working"?
[04:25] <tritium> hotte-: please lsmod | grep ipw
[04:26] <MarZau> thanks: im trying to find out where allow root login has gone, my ati xorg.conf is going badly and i need to clean the file up
[04:26] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> jsut for kicks, can you lpaste the contents of   lshw -C network
[04:27] <ExecutiveOrder> http://rafb.net/p/p8IEGo35.html
[04:27] <ExecutiveOrder> is this a bug n8tuser ?
[04:27] <hotte-> tritium, nothing :(
[04:27] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: not likely
[04:27] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> dont know if its a bug
[04:27] <LoveGuru> eth1
[04:27] <Ohmu> I am thinking of upgrading hardy to intrepid.  Is it a lot of work?  Am I going to have to reinstall everything?
[04:27] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: please see my questions above.
[04:27] <hotte-> n8tuser, tritium this i got for less /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[04:28] <LoveGuru> for wireless interface :/
[04:28] <elgreek84> anyone know how to enable auto-rejoin on pidgin IRC?
[04:28] <ExecutiveOrder> tritium, nm-applet shows the little blue bars , i have wireless checked i put in my key it says im connected but im not connected
[04:28] <PsiKloPx> Noob question - does Nvidia Settings replace compiz?
[04:29] <hotte-> PsiKloPx, no
[04:29] <ExecutiveOrder> no PsiKloPx
[04:29] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> no you are not associated look at what you pasted   last line  "wireless=unassociated"
[04:29] <allen_> bye
[04:29] <tritium> hotte-: if it's an Intel, you'd need one of the ipw modules loaded.  Which is it?  ipw2100?  2200?
[04:30] <mickster04> thanks for that guys!!
[04:30] <ExecutiveOrder> n8tuser, i checked the network in nm-applets menu the light on my router turned green for wireless
[04:30] <dialmeupscotty> hi guys
[04:30] <mickster04> i didnt realuse that vesa was the basic default
[04:30] <mickster04> seet
[04:30] <mickster04> sweet*
[04:30] <PsiKloPx> having a few display glitches (minimize, maximize, close buttons grayed out until I hover over with th mouse) Someone told me to disable flip.  Did that, and rebooted, No joy.
[04:30] <timboy> hey just made a fresh install of ubuntu and installed 177 nvidia drivers after reboot I get a lovely black tty screen. How can i fix my drivers?
[04:30] <dialmeupscotty> i'm trying to set up dialup networking under ibex, any tips?
[04:31] <hotte-> hmm you mean which card? Network:Intel (R) Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN, Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection Driver
[04:31] <MarZau> auto rejoin: buddies > join a chat > Room list > +add chat > enter name and auto rejoin check box
[04:31] <ExecutiveOrder> should i try again n8tuser and use iwconfig ?
[04:31] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> let me clarify, once when you said your  wifi is connected, then you can paste the   lshw -C network,  not when just the ethernet is connected
[04:31] <timboy> ibex that is
[04:31] <temporarytao> dialmeupscotty, have you tried it yet? what's the problem?
[04:31] <PsiKloPx> tried to go to System>Preferences>Windows and got this error: "Window manager "compiz" has not registered a configuration tool"
[04:31] <macjason0607> guys
[04:32] <PsiKloPx> running 8.10
[04:32] <ExecutiveOrder> n8tuser, when i say connected i meant nm-applet is showing im connected
[04:32] <macjason0607> there a program out there better then k9copy
[04:32] <dialmeupscotty> temporarytao: can't find a dialoue to do it with
[04:32] <ExecutiveOrder> i get full bars
[04:32] <temporarytao> it's with the network dialog
[04:32] <ExecutiveOrder> but as soon as i unplugg the ethernet i lose my connection
[04:32] <hotte-> tritium, which module i have to load?
[04:32] <dialmeupscotty> temporarytao: whereabouts?
[04:32] <Conexion> I was wondering, where are programs installed by default on Ubuntu? (Such as Open Office, etc)
[04:32] <Ninina> Hey all, I was wondering if anyone knew some resources on how to make heavily restricted guest accounts.  I want to give some people access to my box but I only want them to be able to run a few programs
[04:33] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> thats what i meant, when you think you have it as "connected"  get the results of  lshw -C network
[04:33] <hotte-> tritium, i got ndiswrapper and installed the drivers
[04:33] <temporarytao> dialmeupscotty, right click the network icon on your upper panel
[04:33] <tritium> hotte-: which release?
[04:33] <ExecutiveOrder> alright
[04:33] <tritium> hotte-: you don't need ndiswrapper
[04:33] <hotte-> tritium, hmm?
[04:33] <dialmeupscotty> temporarytao: now what?
[04:33] <tritium> hotte-: which release are you running?
[04:34] <hotte-> tritium, u mean ubuntu? intrepid
[04:34] <temporarytao> dialmeupscotty, "edit connections"
[04:34] <dialmeupscotty> i see wired, wireless, mobile broadband, vpn, dsl
[04:34] <dialmeupscotty> temporarytao:
[04:34] <mickster04> thanks alot for your help, im sure i'll be back! but its time i went to bed...
[04:34] <n8tuser> hotte- -> does  ip*  or iw*  listed in  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ubuntu/wireless  ?
[04:34] <tritium> hotte-: intrepid is release, yes.
[04:35] <tritium> hotte-: the module you need is iwl3945
[04:35] <dialmeupscotty> temporarytao: which of those does dialup?
[04:35] <Ninina> Also I'm using Hardy Heron but I didn't put home in it's own folder, is there a compelling reason to format and install intrepid?
[04:35] <temporarytao> dialmeupscotty, ...uhmmm it's not there anymore
[04:35] <dialmeupscotty> temporarytao: indeed
[04:35] <temporarytao> dialmeupscotty, sorry about that. I thought it would be there like hardy.
[04:35] <hotte-> tritium, how to load a module?
[04:35] <dialmeupscotty> temporarytao: they
[04:36] <tritium> hotte-: sudo modprobe iwl3945
[04:36] <ExecutiveOrder> n8tuser, can you paste directions in pm
[04:36] <dialmeupscotty> temporarytao: they completely buggered it up for ibex, new feature
[04:36] <hotte-> tritium, does i have to remove ndiswrapper?
[04:36] <temporarytao> dialmeupscotty, haven't used dial up in a while. i guess ibex proved to be too "automatic" for me...hehehe
[04:36] <ExecutiveOrder> i've gotten so many its hard to keep track
[04:36] <timboy> hey just made a fresh install of intrepid and installed 177 nvidia drivers after reboot I get a lovely black tty screen. How can i fix my drivers? I tried envyng -t afterward and I get a python error. This is my second attempt broke both times.
[04:36] <dialmeupscotty> temporarytao: you don
[04:36] <n8tuser> hotte- -> is iwl*  listed in  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ubuntu/wireless  ?
[04:36] <dialmeupscotty> toops
[04:36] <tritium> hotte-: to make it auto-load on boot, append it to /etc/modules
[04:36] <temporarytao> dialmeupscotty, i think there's a dialer in the repos
[04:36] <dialmeupscotty> temporarytao: you don
[04:36] <dialmeupscotty> sod it
[04:36] <tritium> hotte-: you don't need to use ndiswrapper at all
[04:36] <dialmeupscotty> eeepc keyboard
[04:37] <qcjn> my ssh connection doesnT work anymore ??
[04:37] <n8tuser> qcjn -> to a remote server?
[04:37] <dialmeupscotty> temporarytao: you don't happen to know how to enable/disable a connection in the ibex GUI?
[04:37]  * temporarytao checking add/remove right now
[04:37] <qcjn> from my computer to another computer in local network
[04:38] <rebel_kid> how can i check the ubuntu version of a machine
[04:38] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> are you getting my pm ?
[04:38] <tritium> rebel_kid: lsb_release -a
[04:38] <dialmeupscotty> it was all nice and obvious in hardy but i see no checkboxes or active/deactivate buttonsnow
[04:38] <ExecutiveOrder> yes n8tuser
[04:38] <ExecutiveOrder> did you not see my reply?
[04:38] <ellipsis1> okay I had installed the kde desktop and wasn't too happy with it
[04:38] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> nope
[04:38] <ellipsis1> so I tried uninstalling it
[04:38] <dialmeupscotty> it feels compregensively b0rked
[04:38] <qcjn> n8tuser: from my computer to another computer in local network
[04:38] <ellipsis1> partway through the removal it asked me to close kdm daemon
[04:38] <PsiKloPx> anyone know anything about "Window manager compiz has not registered a configuration tool"
[04:38] <ExecutiveOrder> now n8tuser ?
[04:38] <ellipsis1> so I did
[04:39] <temporarytao> dialmeupscotty, well, there's gnome-ppp in the repos
[04:39] <ExecutiveOrder> i just replied
[04:39] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> nope still
[04:39] <temporarytao> maybe that works.
[04:39] <ellipsis1> and now my installation is borked.
[04:39] <ellipsis1> @_@
[04:39] <rebel_kid> tritium, ty
[04:39] <dialmeupscotty> temporarytao: guess it
[04:39] <ellipsis1> is there any way to repair an installation from cd?
[04:39] <ExecutiveOrder> wtf n8tuser
[04:39] <dialmeupscotty> will have to
[04:39] <n8tuser> qcjn -> does the other host have sshd running?
[04:39] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: is your nick registered? Also, I've asked you not to use foul acronyms.  Keep the channel family-friendly.
[04:39] <temporarytao> dialmeupscotty, maybe they removed it cuz its not so popular anymore.
[04:39] <qcjn> no it s ssh running
[04:39] <ExecutiveOrder> what the foul?
[04:40] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> dont use wtf
[04:40] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: you know exactly what.  I don't need to repeta it.
[04:40] <temporarytao> dialmeupscotty, hopefully, it works for you. sorry i wasn't very helpful there...hehe
[04:40] <psygnisfive_> i feel it necessary to come in her and tell you dear ubuntu people that ive installed ubuntu on my grandparents pc, they've been using it for 5 months now, and they have no trouble using it at all. <3
[04:40] <ExecutiveOrder> did that go through n8tuser ?
[04:40] <n8tuser> !who | qcjn
[04:40] <tritium> psygnisfive_: very nice.  :)
[04:40] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> nope still
[04:40] <tritium> ExecutiveOrder: I asked you if your nick is registered.
[04:40] <dialmeupscotty> temporarytao: i wouldn't mind if that were the reason, unfortuately it looks like they broke the network manager interface completely, i still can't work out how to disable or enable connections
[04:40] <ExecutiveOrder> i registered
[04:40] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> just paste it in pastebin
[04:41] <psygnisfive_> that is all.
[04:41] <cmdrsmith> hello does anyone know of a yahoo client that supports video?
[04:41] <qcjn> n8tuser: no it s ssh running
[04:41] <ExecutiveOrder> n8tuser, i just need the directions in there order again
[04:41] <ExecutiveOrder> i got them all buggered up
[04:41] <dialmeupscotty> i might be able to use the new mobile broadband option but i can't see how i'd enable it once configured
[04:41] <tritium> Good night.
[04:42] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> lshw -C network
[04:42] <ExecutiveOrder> n8tuser,  i meant sudo ifup ifdown /etc/network/interfaces restart etc
[04:42] <scriptx> kubuntu 8.10 -- kwin does not have a cube effect?
[04:42] <n8tuser> qcjn -> the other host is running an ssh server so you can ssh into it?
[04:42] <temporarytao> dialmeupscotty, doesn't simply unchecking the "enable network..." work for you?
[04:42] <hotte-> n8tuser, how to check this?
[04:42] <hotte-> tritium, /etc/modules is empty
[04:42] <timboy> hey just made a fresh install of intrepid and installed 177 nvidia drivers after reboot I get a lovely black tty screen. How can i fix my drivers? I tried envyng -t afterward and I get a python error. This is my second attempt broke both times.
[04:43] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> only when you think you have the wifi connected, id like to compare the one you pasted earlier
[04:43] <xorlim> do I lose my irssi if I click on "enable network" to disable it?
[04:43] <dialmeupscotty> temporarytao: from the right click menu?
[04:43] <temporarytao> yeag
[04:43] <temporarytao> yeah
[04:43] <n8tuser> hotte- -> ls -la  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ubuntu/wireless  ?
[04:43] <temporarytao> not there?
[04:44] <dialmeupscotty> no option for mobile broadband there
[04:44] <qcjn> n8tuser: i do a "roger@192.168.0.110  password : ...and when i put my password it doesn t work
[04:44] <dude``> humm, i have a quick question about FUSE...anyone takers?
[04:44] <temporarytao> dialmeupscotty, gotta ask you. did you upgrade or is that a clean install?
[04:44] <dialmeupscotty> temporarytao: clean
[04:45] <qcjn> n8tuser: it used to work, but it doesn T anymore
[04:45] <temporarytao> what's ur hardware?
[04:45] <gnutron> qcjn: try ssh -l username xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[04:46] <dialmeupscotty> temporarytao: me? eeepc 701
[04:46] <qcjn> gnutron: with no @ or with the @
[04:46] <dialmeupscotty> installing gnome-ppp
[04:46] <n8tuser> qcjn -> one way to learn it, is try them with or without
[04:46] <gnutron> qcjn: correct, the target username
[04:47] <hotte-> sry didnt recognized that i disconnected
[04:47] <gnutron> qcjn: no '@'
[04:47] <snypzz> seeking UBUNTU MOBILE is it out yet...
[04:47] <pc-04> ubuntu 8.10 repository??
[04:47] <wos> how do you open a .bundle file?
[04:47] <temporarytao> dialmeupscotty, isn't there a special ubuntu distro for netbooks?
[04:48] <hotte-> tritium, so wlan0 is here now ;)
[04:48] <pc-04> where i can download it
[04:48] <cmdrsmith> hello does anyone know of a yahoo client that supports video?
[04:48] <timboy> wos, chmod +x file
[04:48] <timboy> then run it with ./file
[04:48] <wos> thanks timboy
[04:48] <n8tuser> hotte- -> he said good night earlier... so it works now?
[04:48] <hotte-> tritium, thank you very much!
[04:48] <\slash> how can i search for wireless networks?
[04:48] <hotte-> n8tuser, yeah it was the missing module
[04:48] <dialmeupscotty> temporarytao sort of, though it's not ready for 8.10 yet, it doesnt do anything i haven't already messed with by hand though
[04:48] <schleyfox> hi, I'm using kubuntu 8.04 and I just began experiencing full system lockups that occur anywhere from a few minutes after boot to a few hours.  It occurs most commonly while opening new tabs in firefox, but not exclusively.  I'm using wireless, and this problem appears on 2.6.24-21 and 2.6.24-19
[04:48] <n8tuser> hotte- -> okay,
[04:49] <hotte-> n8tuser, one more question does i need ndiswrapper anymore?
[04:49] <\slash> i want to connect to my wireless router but i cant figure out how to connect
[04:49] <hotte-> do
[04:49] <n8tuser> hotte- -> nope no need for ndiswrapper for that chip
[04:49] <qcjn> gnutron: with no @...it gave me all kinks of command. And with the @..it dont work..like if my passwor wasn't good
[04:49] <n8tuser> !wifi | \slash
[04:49] <hotte-> oki thank you very much too
[04:49] <n8tuser> hotte- -> yw
[04:49] <\slash> thank u
[04:49] <ClintHexa> any smaller version of ubuntu for laptop = 192 MB processor speed 700 ATA 9GB any recommendation
[04:50] <dialmeupscotty> ClintHexa: xubuntu?
[04:50] <temporarytao> dialmeupscotty, i'm thinking there's probably a lot of customization you have to do for an eeePC cuz of the slightly "exotic?" hardware setup. :)
[04:50] <ClintHexa> xubuntu :) thank you
[04:50] <temporarytao> how's that dialup thing going?
[04:50] <ExecutiveOrder> n8tuser, http://rafb.net/p/6i9mGe25.html
[04:50] <ClintHexa> wait my old laptop displysucks it is 800 x 600 24 bits only
[04:50] <n8tuser> ClintHexa -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[04:51] <dialmeupscotty> temporarytao: there's a bit but it's not too bad, the hardware isn't that exotic
[04:51] <timboy> hey just made a fresh install of intrepid and installed 177 nvidia drivers after reboot I get a lovely black tty screen. How can i fix my drivers? I tried envyng -t afterward and I get a python error. This is my second attempt broke both times.
[04:51] <gnutron> qcjn: does it give you ssh commands? like a ssh --help stuff?
[04:51] <dialmeupscotty> ClintHexa: that's not bad
[04:51] <ClintHexa> ty dial
[04:51] <ClintHexa> ty dial
[04:51] <ClintHexa> at the moment im running fbsd 7.0
[04:52] <ExecutiveOrder> does that tell you anything new n8tuser
[04:52] <dialmeupscotty> ClintHexa: why did you specify the maximum bitdepth, would you hope for higher?
[04:53] <ClintHexa> i was hoping for higherso iwouldn't have probs with display when running ubuntu
[04:53] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> yes, the AP is not dolling out an ip adddress to you, can you try it without using encryption?
[04:53] <qcjn> gnutron: yes
[04:53] <ExecutiveOrder> n8tuser, i've tried connecting to networks with no encryption it does the same thing
[04:53] <dialmeupscotty> ClintHexa: 24bit is as high as you need/can go
[04:53] <ClintHexa> ty
[04:54] <dialmeupscotty> 800x600 makes certain dialogues in gnome very awkward but it's better than 800x480
[04:54] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> actually you need to type  dhclient eth1  and not just iwconfig (which does not really associate)
[04:54] <gnutron> qcjn: it's 'ssh -l username ip   -thats a lower case 'L' Not a one [1]
[04:54] <ClintHexa> yes thats very true dial
[04:55] <ExecutiveOrder> so i need to redo everything
[04:55] <gnutron> qcjn: and the username is the target machine account name, not your local login name.
[04:56] <qcjn> gnutron: thats what i did
[04:56] <gnutron> qcjn: thats way weird, hardy works perfectly using that syntax
[04:57] <droopsta915> can I change my terminal background color, I want it to be black and the text to be white.
[04:57] <tritium> hotte-: good!
[04:57] <gnutron> qcjn: are you sure you are using the correct ip address?
[04:58] <qcjn> gnutron: yes i'm sure..and i find it weird to
[04:58] <gnutron> droopsta915: just edit the default profile in the terminal menu
[04:59] <qcjn> i've made myself an alias, and it used to work..so i verified my alias and it is ok
[04:59] <Anacranom> gnutron, is he trying local or over the net? did he forward port 22?, is he using dhcp and if so does he have same ip port is forwarded to? sorry, came in late...
[04:59] <Makuseru> How can i manually resize a programs window? When ever i run Ardour it is always to long to fit on the screen, but i can not grab the edge of it and compress it like i normally could with a program. Is there anything i can do to resize this?
[04:59] <qcjn> gnutron: i've made myself an alias, and it used to work..so i verified my alias and it is ok
[04:59] <ExecutiveOrder> n8tuser,  tritium LoveGuru thank you so much
[04:59] <ExecutiveOrder> finally got it working
[05:00] <ExecutiveOrder> dhclient worked n8tuser
[05:00] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> yes..cool
[05:00] <ExecutiveOrder> thank you very much
[05:00] <ExecutiveOrder> i could kiss you
[05:00] <droopsta915> gnutron: thanks, I wasnt paying attention and just realized the terminal has a menu bar. lol
[05:00] <timboy> just made a fresh install of intrepid and installed 177 nvidia drivers after reboot I get a lovely black tty screen. How can i fix my drivers?
[05:00] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> you have to fight with my wife and kids..hehehe
[05:00] <gnutron> qcjn: are you ssh'ing from the same subnet/lan connection, otherwise you need port forwarding from wan to the lan subnet.
[05:01] <ExecutiveOrder> lol n8tuser
[05:01] <gnutron> Anacranom: thanks
[05:01] <ExecutiveOrder> seriously thanks a bunch i was going out of my mind
[05:01] <PsiKloPx> anyone know why my theme changes keep changing back after reboot.
[05:01] <ExecutiveOrder> words cant describe
[05:01] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> hopefully you learned, iwconfig is just to configure, and not to really associate and get an ip address
[05:02] <ExecutiveOrder> one can only hope
[05:02] <qcjn> gnutron: i m from in the network, and the portforwarding is made to for extern...and that worked to..i don t know if it works now, since i m inside the network
[05:02] <difeta> hey all. How can I find out what module my wireless card is presently using?
[05:02] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> you could have both ethernet and wifi active at same time, but you have to be clever to fiddle with your route table, and it aint that easy..
[05:02] <kpausche> Hello, anyone know how to fix the mount nfs : internal error ?
[05:03] <ExecutiveOrder> n8tuser, do you know how to get that unlock button removed from networkmanager?
[05:03] <ExecutiveOrder> my window manager doesnt allow me to click it
[05:03] <ExecutiveOrder> http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6704/81515309vr3.jpg
[05:03] <gnutron> qcjn: as for the alias, not sure if that would work. the target username should be a actual user account.
[05:04] <ExecutiveOrder> or is there a way i can get whatever gnome process uses it to run in my window manager without taking over?
[05:04] <kpausche> Hello, anyone know how to fix the mount nfs : internal error ?
[05:04] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> the unlock button gives you that sudo or root priviledge
[05:04] <cdecarlo> I think my daughter accidentally removed my top panel, the one with Applications/Places/etc how do I get the default one back? is there some sort of dpkg reconfigure?
[05:04] <ExecutiveOrder> yea but i cant use it in my window manager n8tuser
[05:05] <qcjn> gnutron: it did work, from inside the network...i've used it a couple of time...Since i made an update of the computers..it doesn't work anymore
[05:05] <ExecutiveOrder> i hate gnome
[05:05] <db> hi. I got a problem regarding the loading of modules at startup. I need to load the pcnet32 module (which doesn't load automatically for whatever reason), so I tried to add it to /etc/modules - that didn't help. update-modules is said to be obsolete in the manpage.. so what is the intended way of loading a module on startup?
[05:05] <tave> how do I iable the gnome startup screen process during startup?
[05:05] <tave> *disable
[05:05] <n8tuser> ExecutiveOrder -> i myself just uses the command line
[05:05] <gnutron> qcjn: can you 'scp file username@ip:file'
[05:06] <cdecarlo> db: it's in the session options, at least start up programs are that is
[05:06] <Anacranom> gnutron, i have 8 boxes in this house, i access them locally and remote from work,,, works like sliced bread, gotta be something simple overlooked
[05:06] <ExecutiveOrder> alright n8tuser i guess i'll have to get use to that then
[05:06] <ExecutiveOrder> thanks again
[05:06] <kpausche> anyone have info about the mount nfs:internal error bug in hardy?
[05:06] <ssmy_> kpausche: yep. ignore it =)
[05:06] <db> cdecarlo, i guess you mean the gnome session options.. no, the module should be loaded on bootup (way before the GUI starts)
[05:06] <kpausche> ssmy_: there is no fix?  just use fstab?
[05:06] <ssmy_> kpausche: it goes away after a while, no idea why. working perfectly now.
[05:07] <cdecarlo> db: then what about the rc files?
[05:07] <qcjn> gnutron: i haven t tried that since i can t even connect
[05:07] <kpausche> ssmy_: hehe really?  has it been fixed in intrepid, do you know?
[05:07] <ssmy_> kpausche: i'll tell when i install intrepid...
[05:07] <gnutron> qcjn: can you ping that lan address
[05:07] <kpausche> ssmy_: argh its so annoying I can't even mount nfs.. such a basic thing
[05:07] <db> cdecarlo, yes, well, I could hack it in there somehow, but there ought to be an "intended" way of loading modules, like /etc/modules, or update-modules, but these don't work
[05:07] <ssmy_> kpausche: as of now I hav enfs working perfectly between hardy <=> hardy and hardy <=> gutsy
[05:08] <gnutron> qcjn: try nmap ip, see if 22 tcp is listening.
[05:08] <ssmy_> kpausche: actually, it said it didn't mount, but actually did. try it.
[05:08] <cdecarlo> db: sorry I can't help you with your problem
[05:08] <kpausche> ssmy_: i have an intrepid server but i only export from it
[05:08] <kpausche> ssmy_: oh ok, thanks.. i just thought there was a quick fix.. i didnt find much on the web.
[05:08] <cmdrsmith> hello does anyone know of a yahoo messenger client that supports video?
[05:08] <db> cdecarlo, thanks for trying anyway ;-)
[05:09] <temporarytao> hey guys, how safe is it to open port 80 in ubuntu hardy?
[05:09] <tritium> n8tuser: what did he finally have to do?
[05:09] <cdecarlo> cmdrsmith, the only thing I know that supports video is skpe
[05:09] <cdecarlo> skype
[05:09] <qcjn> gnutron: ping works ! but whats nmap ?
[05:09] <temporarytao> i'm playing around with an old computer, using it as a web server
[05:09] <ssmy_> kpausche: good luck.
[05:09] <cdecarlo> I think my daughter accidentally removed my top panel, the one with Applications/Places/etc how do I get the default one back? is there some sort of dpkg reconfigure?
[05:09] <kpausche> ssmy_: thx =]
[05:09] <LordKagar> Cdcarlo is a noob
[05:09] <LordKagar> lol
[05:10] <ssmy_> cdecarlo: right-click the bottom panel, add panel. add the appropriate things to it.
[05:10] <gnutron> qcjn: nmap will scan for open ports on any target ip or ip block. nmap is network mapping tool
[05:10] <db> LordKagar, and you can't even read and write his nick.. so what's the point?
[05:10] <qcjn> gnutron: it seems to me ! here : 22/tcp   open  ssh
[05:10] <cdecarlo> LordKagar, are you talking about me sweetheart?
[05:10] <dialmeupscotty> and LordKagar is singularly unhelpful
[05:10] <gnutron> qcjn: totally odd.
[05:10] <LordKagar> pfttttttt
[05:10] <LordKagar> only cause im a genius
[05:11] <temporarytao> cdecarlo, run gconf-editor
[05:11] <LordKagar> why wood i help
[05:11] <dialmeupscotty> LordKagar: please leave
[05:11] <temporarytao> cdecarlo, navigate to apps>panel
[05:11] <LordKagar> i no everything
[05:11] <cdecarlo> LordKagar, you might wanna try trolling in other chats ...
[05:11] <temporarytao> there should be some options there you can use
[05:11] <gnutron> qcjn: what error do you get using ssh -l user 192.168.0.110
[05:11] <LordKagar> cdecarlo, can u suggest 1
[05:11] <ssmy_> temporarytao: I think apps > panel is hidden by default, no?
[05:12] <dialmeupscotty> LordKagar: your grasp of english is truly exceptional
[05:12] <temporarytao> ssmy_, ?
[05:12] <gnutron> qcjn: user being an existimng account on that machine, it must exist
[05:12] <temporarytao> i don't understand
[05:12] <cdecarlo> LordKagar, #mensa
[05:12] <LordKagar> bant
[05:12] <qcjn> gnutron: Permission denied, please try again.
[05:12] <LordKagar> from the effnet one anyways
[05:12] <gnutron> qcjn: the login username must not exist
[05:13] <obtel> lordkagar.... you know everything?  guess how many fingers I'am showing...
[05:13] <Anacranom> gnutron, restart sshd?
[05:13] <LordKagar> obtel: 3
[05:13] <LordKagar> oh 1
[05:13] <gnutron> Anacranom: qcjn is having this problem.
[05:14] <Makuseru> How can i manually resize a programs window? When ever i run Ardour it is always to long to fit on the screen, but i can not grab the edge of it and compress it like i normally could with a program. Is there anything i can do to resize this?
[05:14] <LordKagar> Makuserur, reboot the server
[05:14] <LordKagar> obviously
[05:14] <qcjn> gnutron: that can't be..Cause when i connect with the vnc terminal client i use the same username and it connects
[05:14] <Makuseru> LordKagar: what server?
[05:14] <db> Makuseru, you can alt-click the window and shift it until you can grab the edge
[05:14] <Anacranom> gnutron, sorry, had a suggestion on what you're trying to help with
[05:14] <LordKagar> windows erver2000
[05:15] <Makuseru> LordKagar: what the hell are you talking about
[05:15] <db> Makuseru, LordKagar tries to be funny
[05:15] <temporarytao> Makuseru, ignore him. he's trolling
[05:15] <LordKagar> unless youre on windows bob or something
[05:15] <temporarytao> Makuseru, press alt+spacebar, then m
[05:15] <gnutron> qcjn: try scp anyfile thatuser@192.168.0.110:  hit enter
[05:15] <temporarytao> then user your arrow keys to move your window to
[05:15] <aaaantoine> Good morning/evening everyone
[05:16] <qcjn> ok
[05:16] <db> thanks & cu
[05:17] <LordKagar> there goes my boyfriend
[05:17] <abcdefg> 8.04 often crashed. not sure where is wrong. do you sugguest just re-install. and try 8.10 ? :D
[05:17] <ClintHexa>  
[05:17] <dialmeupscotty> so, can i drag windows offscreen with compiz enabled?
[05:18] <dialmeupscotty> i can use alt+drag with metacity but windows get stuck on the top panel with compiz
[05:18] <aaaantoine> I've been using Ubuntu 8.10 since launch, and since I upgraded from 8.04 I notice that when there's any consistent amount of !nice CPU load the system will temporarily freeze
[05:18] <abcdefg> i installed 8.10 last week, and it crashed several times. mostly: windows automatically minized, our some strange window popup, and some text in gedit automatically highlighted etc...
[05:19] <scunizi> dialmeupscotty, I think with compiz enabled you can drag a window onto the next desktop.. it auto rotates.
[05:19] <temporarytao> dialmeupscotty, i usually get that with wobbly windows effects
[05:19] <dialmeupscotty> scunizi: i don't want to do that, i want to drag it so that the titlebarmoves above the top of the screen
[05:19] <aaaantoine> I was wondering if someone could help me diagnose the problem since I've never had to dig into system logs to this point
[05:20] <scunizi> dialmeupscotty, temporarytao might have the answer.. turn off wobbly windows..
[05:20] <abcdefg> sounds like been hecked ?
[05:21] <dialmeupscotty> scunizi: if i had wobbly windows enabled i'd try that
[05:21] <dialmeupscotty> scunizi: if i had wobbly windows enabled i'd try that
[05:21] <dialmeupscotty> oopz
[05:21] <qcjn> gnutron: /home/qcjnserv: No such file or directory
[05:21] <scunizi> dialmeupscotty, no answer here.. just a suggestion.. obviously not the right one.
[05:22] <timboy> just made a fresh install of intrepid and installed 177 nvidia drivers after reboot I get a lovely black tty screen. How can i fix my drivers?
[05:22] <gnutron> qcjn: then it must be a accoount name issue. it doesnt recognize that account name
[05:22] <dialmeupscotty> oh well, i'll have to create some dialer scripts, i was hoping to make this thing nice and graphical, meh
[05:22] <\slash> omg thats so lame i booted up on windows and used shortcut key to enable and disable wireless/bluetooth and i left it on and rebooted windows and started ubuntu and the wireless connections worked
[05:23] <\slash> is there a shortcut to enable and disable wireless/bluetooth
[05:23] <qcjn> gnutron: i don t understand...cause it worked with that same name..and that name is there
[05:23] <gnutron> qcjn: atleast it's responding
[05:23] <forcumang> what proggy can i use to play avi's?
[05:23] <qcjn> gnutron: that right
[05:23] <tritium> timboy: you used the ubuntu-packaged nvidia drivers?
[05:23] <BusterHymen> my indexing options have mysteriously disappeared from my System menu... what's the name of the service?  I want to try to call it from alt + F2 to check if it's completely missing or only missing from the menu
[05:24] <temporarytao> forcumang, vlc
[05:24] <dialmeupscotty> \slash: checkboxes when you right click the wireless networks icon
[05:24] <BusterHymen> forcumang:  vlc for the win
[05:24] <timboy> tritium, yes through jocky-gtk
[05:24] <scunizi> BusterHymen, trackerd or tracker
[05:24] <dialmeupscotty> as for bluetooth, try hciconfig hci0 down
[05:24] <BusterHymen> scunizi:  i'll try that, thank you!
[05:24] <kevin__> every time i turn on my computer it requires a keyring password to connect and probably unlock other things, is there anything i can type to make it remember my password? this is my private computer
[05:24] <forcumang> k
[05:24] <gnutron> qcjn: try to ssh localhost see if thatworks
[05:24] <tritium> timboy: huh?  You used ubuntu .debs?
[05:24] <scriptx> does anyone know the repository which has the mediabuntu files on it? things needed to play back mp3s and avis?
[05:24] <\slash> it wasnt clickable until i rebooted with settings on via windows
[05:25] <tritium> !nvidia | timboy
[05:25] <timboy> tritium, broke two consecutive fresh installs in a row. you know the app that pops down and says restricted drivers available. that's jocky-gtk
[05:25] <LordKagar> wow theres like
[05:25] <scunizi> scriptx, for mp3 install ubuntu-restricted-extras..
[05:25] <LordKagar> 2000 people here
[05:25] <BusterHymen> odd... I'm getting "could not open location 'file:///home/louis/tracker'"  apparently there's no such file or directory
[05:25] <LordKagar> Like a City
[05:25] <kevin__> !debian
[05:25] <BusterHymen> can i apt-get install taht?
[05:25] <tritium> timboy: no, I don't think so
[05:25] <scunizi> !medibuntu | scriptx
[05:25] <qcjn> gnutron: you mean from the computer where is the openssh server ? cause i did that and it don t works..same result
[05:25] <bbyever> hello. i upgraded to intrepid, however i do not see a new theme, like New Human or something... is that normal? or where can i download it?
[05:26] <scriptx> ty scunizi
[05:26] <timboy> tritium, I do
[05:26] <BusterHymen> trackerd is running in the background but i can't find the options for it
[05:26] <gnutron> qcjn: no, i mean ssh to yourself, it's just a wild guess type 'ssh localhost'  thats ssh'ing to yourself
[05:27] <scunizi> scriptx, np
[05:27] <tritium> timboy: indeed, I see that now
[05:27] <temporarytao> bbyever, where did you look for the new themes?
[05:27] <kevin__> anyone know how to make my computer automatically put in a keyring password? it asks whenever i turn on the computer for some reason
[05:28] <scunizi> BusterHymen, system>preferences>search & indexing if it's there.
[05:28] <BusterHymen> scunizi:  that's just it... it's not there
[05:28] <BusterHymen> lol
[05:28] <bbyever> temporarytao: i was looking in the wiki for something about the new theme (i dont even know if there is any, but i suppose there is) but all it says is that should should follow the malling list...
[05:28] <DrUnKnMuNkY> i can't connect to any encrypted wireless networks. can anyone help?
[05:28] <kevin__> thats a hi larious nickname btw
[05:28] <sekyourbox> Can someone here tell me a good program for ubuntu, kind-of similar to remote assistance?
[05:28] <scunizi> BusterHymen, do you have an icon up by the clock?
[05:28] <BusterHymen> scunizi:  i don't see it. what does it look like?
[05:28] <KableKiB> !language
[05:28] <dialmeupscotty> bbyever: if there's a new human theme it'll be called human, you're probably using it
[05:29] <BusterHymen> I have xchat, pidgin, battery, gnome-do, wifi, and volume... that's it
[05:29] <Khisanth> sekyourbox: I use vnc for that
[05:29] <scunizi> BusterHymen, sort of like a magnifying glass
[05:29] <qcjn> gnutron: i typed "ssh localhost" connection refused...i typed "ssh thecomputeri'mon@ipcomputerimon"
[05:29] <vancomycin> any ideas how i can see videos on VLC player i can hear the audio but no video / even changed video output in vlc to x11 video and default outputs / no luck / medibuntu(w32codecs+libdvdss2) are installed / also did "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" - NO LUCK! video/audio plays in wmplayer - but there is an error that keeps flashing fast : [AO_ALSA] Unable to find simple control 'PCM',0 ///  file plays NORMAL in "movie
[05:29] <vancomycin> player" /// this is an avi (xvid mpeg-4) file for example.
[05:29] <timboy> just made a fresh install of intrepid and installed 177 nvidia drivers after reboot I get a lovely black tty screen. How can i fix my drivers? Here is output of xorg.0.log: http://dpaste.com/94027/
[05:29] <BusterHymen> scunizi:  yeah it's not there
[05:29] <vancomycin> using 8.10 with activated nvidia 177 drivers
[05:30] <jazzyb5394> check this out i wrote it :) http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Barney_Frank
[05:30] <scunizi> BusterHymen, have you tried rebooting to see what happens?
[05:30] <sekyourbox> khisanth, I want something easy for the "user" to use
[05:30] <bbyever> dialmeupscotty: uhh, i tried the human theme but it looked the same (and i've never been a great fan of it...)
[05:30] <gnutron> qcjn: i think you need sshd running on your local box also
[05:30] <temporarytao> bbyever, AFAIK the only new theme that came with ibex is Dark Room
[05:30] <BusterHymen> scunizi:  yeah several times
[05:30] <heffay> what could cause grub error 18 after reboot from server 8.10 install?
[05:30] <n8tuser> tritium -> sorry, i stepped out.. all he had to do was   dhclient eth1
[05:30] <bbyever> temporarytao: ah ok, thanks
[05:30] <dialmeupscotty> bbyever: then stop worrying about new themes or go and find some you do like from gnomw-look
[05:30] <Khisanth> sekyourbox: pasting "x11vnc -display :0" and pressing enter is relatively easy :)
[05:30] <temporarytao> bbyever, if you're wanting a new theme, u should try gnome-look.org
[05:30] <scunizi> BusterHymen, or reinstall tracker?  mine went nuts.. taking 50%+ of my cpu for days on end.. I ended up just turning it off.
[05:31] <temporarytao> they have good themes there and plenty of instructions as well/
[05:31] <qcjn> i tried, earlier sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start...and it doesn t exist
[05:31] <bbyever> dialmeupscotty: i already have, and i already use a new theme, i was just looking forward for a new theme that came with intrepid...
[05:31] <qcjn> gnutron:  i tried, earlier sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start...and it doesn t exist
[05:31] <BusterHymen> scunizi:  maybe i'll do that. i'm trying to configure it for battery life
[05:31] <BusterHymen> scunizi:  package is named tracker right?
[05:31] <n8tuser> qcjn -> i ask you that earlier, is the ssh server install at remote end?
[05:31] <bbyever>  temporarytao: yeah, thanks
[05:31] <BusterHymen> sorry trackerd?
[05:31] <scunizi> BusterHymen, yep
[05:32] <tritium> n8tuser: that's still odd.  NM should take care of that.
[05:32] <BusterHymen> sounds like a plan lol
[05:32] <gnutron> qcjn: install open-ssh or whatever intrepids package is called.
[05:32] <tritium> openssh-server
[05:32] <dialmeupscotty> timboy: what is your video card?
[05:32] <n8tuser> tritium -> or the ifup eth1 would have called the dhclient too..yeah it is odd
[05:32] <BusterHymen> scunizi:  aah libdeskbar-tracker is missing
[05:32] <qcjn> gnutron: in fact it says command not found
[05:33] <gnutron> qcjn: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[05:33] <qcjn> gnutron: it is installed
[05:33] <gnutron> tritium: thank you
[05:33] <tritium> gnutron: :)
[05:33] <arquebus> I want to try a command line mail client like alpine or malix, but the docs only give instructions on how to use the client, not how to set it up to a mail server. Can anyone refer me to info on how to set these clients up?
[05:33] <gnutron> qcjn: it's installed and running on both machines?
[05:33] <dialmeupscotty> timboy: maybe you could tell us what lspci says about your gpu
[05:34] <n8tuser> qcjn -> at the remote end where you're attempting to log on?
[05:34] <timboy> dialmeupscotty, 04:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8800 GT (rev a2)
[05:36] <sekyourbox> khisanth, I want to connect to a windows computer from my computer.. So actually I'm looking for something that will work on window too...
[05:36] <gnutron> qcjn: sudo /usr/sbin/sshd   try that
[05:36] <BusterHymen> is there any way to get advanced power management?  I've already right clciked my battery icon and gone to "preferences"
[05:36] <arquebus> !mail
[05:36] <dialmeupscotty> timboy: hmm, it's not as though it might be the wrong batch of drivers, i guess 8800 is supported in the plain old nvidi driver set
[05:36] <kevin__> does anyone know why my computer asks for keyring when i turn it on and how to make it just do it for me
[05:37] <Khisanth> sekyourbox: Start->TightVNC->Launch TightVNC Server is pretty easy as well :)
[05:37] <gnutron> qcjn: open a terminal, netstat -tunap   it should show port 22 listening on both boxes
[05:37] <Anacranom> sekyourbox, tightvnc- in the repos and has a windows client on their websight
[05:37] <mantispa1m> Hi guys. I'm having problems with X. Im' using an nvidia card on ibis, but my resolution won't go past 800x640
[05:37] <timboy> dialmeupscotty, I've got it in sli but was working before I did a re-install...
[05:38] <sekyourbox> khisanth, Thanks. Thats what im looking for :)
[05:38] <cellofellow> I can't read DVDs. I put a dvd in my drive, and try to play in any player (mplayer, vlc, totem) and it doesn't detect the disk. lsdvd says it "Can't open disc".
[05:38] <gnutron> qcjn: id you're running a local firewall, be sure you have port 22 opened also. the remote is open we know that for sure.
[05:39] <arquebus> can anyone refer me to information on how to set up evolution to work with gmail or an isp server?
[05:39]  * Mustinet gunaydın herkese
[05:39] <Khisanth> sekyourbox: but if you are just looking to connect to remote desktop there are various programs you can use such as rdesktop
[05:39] <mantispa1m> Does anyone know how to increase the resolution, where an nvidia card is involved ?
[05:39] <qcjn> gnutron: tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN
[05:40] <dialmeupscotty> cellofellow: does that happen with all dvds, can you view the files?
[05:40] <sekyourbox> khisanth, indeed. I know about those...
[05:40] <DrUnKnMuNkY> i can't connect to any encrypted wireless networks. can anyone help?
[05:40] <temporarytao> mantispa1m, isn't there an nvidia utility in "add/remove"?
[05:40] <gnutron> qcjn: thats too weird.
[05:40] <temporarytao> you should check that out
[05:40] <mantispa1m> temporarytao: you mean in synaptic ?
[05:41] <scunizi> mantispa1m, install nvidia-settings
[05:41] <kevin__> ok last time and ill go does anyone know about storing the keyring password so that it doesnt keep asking me for it for some reason when i want to  go online
[05:41] <temporarytao> mantispa1m, that too
[05:41] <temporarytao> mantispa1m: what scunizi said
[05:41] <kevin__> well when i turn on the computer really
[05:41] <dialmeupscotty> kevin__: tried asking it to remember your passwords
[05:41] <Makuseru> Whenever I open Ardour, the window is longer than my screen is, and when i grab the edge to resize it I can make it longer, but not shorter. Is there any way to force this to resize to a smaller width?
[05:41] <ytoox> how can i install TAO for MONO on ubuntu?
[05:41] <mantispa1m> scunizi: when I run nvidia-settings, the resolution options don't go higher than 640x480
[05:42] <scunizi> mantispa1m, which card do you have?
[05:42] <temporarytao> mantispa1m, do you have restricted drivers enabled?
[05:42] <cellofellow> dialman: I've tried several DVDs and it doesn't work. I can't mount it either.
[05:42] <gnutron> qcjn: did you need to install and start it, if so, try ssh again. or vnc to the remote and adduser an account name for testing purposes.
[05:42] <MHz128> mantispa1m, what card???
[05:43] <mantispa1m> temporarytao: yes, I have restricted drivers enabled.
[05:43] <mantispa1m> MHz128: finding out...
[05:43] <kevin_> How would I go about installing the flash plugin for system wise use? Does Ubuntu use the flash plugin, or swfdec for this?
[05:43] <qcjn> gnutron: i think it s enough for tonight,,i goota go to sleep
[05:43] <jscinoz> Hehe
[05:43] <jscinoz> i found a bug
[05:43] <jscinoz> and i wrote a patch for it :D
[05:43] <qcjn> no not tonight
[05:43]  * jscinoz goes and writes up on launchpad
[05:43] <gnutron> qcjn: sorry man, you're close
[05:43] <mantispa1m> MHz128: GFX800XT
[05:44] <kevin__> dialmeupscotty got do i make it remember the password? does it ask me if i want to am i dumb
[05:44] <kevin__> how*
[05:44] <mantispa1m> I believe I'm actually nvidia-177 now.
[05:44] <scunizi> kevin_, search synaptic for flash and you'll see a package for flash non-free.. make sure that you don't have other flash programs/drivers enabled.. like gnash
[05:44] <temporarytao> kevin_, install ubuntu restricted packages from add/remove
[05:45] <qcjn> gnutron: yeah, but you know sometime computer close, can mean an hour or so :)
[05:45] <inkspilled> hot to download themes for ubuntu 8.10.4?
[05:45] <sekyourbox> sudo apt-get mysql doesn't work :(
[05:45] <kevin_> scunizi & temporarytao: I'm doing a manual install of flash 10. Do you know where the .deb of the file would store it?
[05:45] <Cpudan80> sekyourbox: sudo apt-get install mysql
[05:45] <Makuseru> Whenever I open Ardour, the window is longer than my screen is, and when i grab the edge to resize it I can make it longer, but not shorter. Is there any way to force this to resize to a smaller width?
[05:45] <scunizi> kevin_, no
[05:45] <mantispa1m> I actually had it working a few days ago. But one day X fell over and died. After I got it working again, teh nvidia driver was not being used
[05:46] <sekyourbox> cpudan80, wow im a dumbass
[05:46] <gnutron> qcjn: aside from a typo, theres no reason for it not to work.
[05:46] <mantispa1m> When I put it back into use, the resolution problem arose
[05:46] <tritium> sekyourbox: there is no "mysql" package.  You need to specify mysql-client, or mysql-server, etc.
[05:46] <Cpudan80> sekyourbox: I'd type the tab key after mysql --- it might not be the right package name
[05:46] <dialmeupscotty> kevin_: are you doing in manually for any particular reason?
[05:46] <tritium> sekyourbox: "apt-cache search mysql" to find the mysql packages
[05:46] <cellofellow> my dvd drive has always been a bit problematic. How do I tell what's wrong with it?
[05:46] <lucas> ello
[05:46] <sekyourbox> k, thanks
[05:47] <qcjn> gnutron: i'll look at it tomorrow..Maybe uninstall and reinstall...i don't know
[05:47] <lucas> hello
[05:47] <kevin_> dialmeupscotty: Yes. To get the latest flash.
[05:47] <timboy> I fixed xorg.conf for sli. Now i'm having an issue getting it on my second monitor. I get some meta mode error... Here is xorg.conf: http://dpaste.com/94031/ anything wrong with it?
[05:47] <daudi> i have just ins
[05:47] <cellofellow> With a DVD in it (not CD or whatever) it won't mount, I can't use lsdvd, I can't even image with dd.
[05:47] <gnutron> qcjn: good luck dude, sorry i couldnt help
[05:48] <dialmeupscotty> kevin_: just install from the repository and it'll get updated automatically
[05:48] <cellofellow> cat: /dev/dvd: No medium found
[05:48] <ytoox> how can i install TAO for MONO on ubuntu?
[05:48] <Nexuiz2> 谁知道openbsd pppoe 连接怎么搞啊
[05:48] <Popescu> any oane can help-me please ?
[05:48] <Popescu> checking for cl... no
[05:48] <Popescu> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[05:48] <Popescu> See `config.log' for more details.
[05:48] <kevin_> dialmeupscotty: I understand, but I want to know also for reference where you would install flash if you did it manually.
[05:48] <FloodBot3> Popescu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:49] <Nexuiz2> 我按照网上的给折腾来折腾去就是不能上
[05:49] <qcjn> gnutron: thanks a lot for your help, cause anyway it learns me things, like nmap
[05:49] <Nexuiz2> 提示是 no route
[05:49] <dialmeupscotty> kevin_: you'd follow instructions on the adobe website
[05:49] <scunizi> !cn | Nexuiz2
[05:49] <sekyourbox> nmap is pretty good
[05:49] <gnutron> qcjn: you're quite welome.
[05:49] <Nexuiz2> 我是进的ubuntu-cn
[05:49] <mantispa1m> scunizi: the card I have is a GFX800XT
[05:49] <macjason0607> guys .. help i have a printer shared and my wife is trying to print to it but nothing is happening
[05:49] <macjason0607> any ideas ?
[05:49] <qcjn> ok anyway...good night and see you :)
[05:50] <gnutron> my typing tonight is deplorable. night qcjn
[05:50] <qcjn> gnutron: ok anyway...good night and see you :)
[05:50] <qcjn> bye
[05:50] <kevin_> dialmeupscotty: I did. For my own user account I put it in the home folder, and I know how to install it for an application in /usr/lib. I want it to be system wide accessible though for any application.
[05:50] <scunizi> mantispa1m, and which restricted driver did you install.. were there two choices?  you should be using 177 and not 173
[05:50] <mantispa1m> I am using the 177 driver
[05:51] <Popescu> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[05:51] <Popescu> See `config.log' for more details.
[05:51] <scunizi> mantispa1m, have you looked at /etc/xorg.conf and run the reconfigure line that is mentioned in the first paragraph?  you might try that.
[05:51] <Popescu> please help-me
[05:51] <fonzarelli> Popescu: what are you trying to install
[05:52] <scunizi> Popescu, have you installed "build-essential" ?
[05:52] <mantispa1m> scunizi: I have tried it, but I can't remember what happened. I'll give it another shot now, and let you know what's happening...
[05:52] <Popescu> scunizi builsd-essential? no i don`t know what is this
[05:52] <Popescu> fonzarelli i try to install ircu2.10.12.12
[05:52] <scunizi> Popescu, sudo apt-get install build-essential to install an environment for compiling..
[05:54] <timboy> I fixed xorg.conf for sli. Now i'm having an issue getting it on my second monitor. I get some meta mode error... Here is xorg.conf: http://dpaste.com/94031/ anything wrong with it?
[05:54] <fonzarelli> Popescu: i believe that is in the Ubuntu repositories.  you can install it with this command:   sudo apt-get install ircd-ircu
[05:54] <gnutron> Personal note, I've used ubuntu under x86 and 64 bit since it came out, upgrades all went well, but i won't touch intrepid until it's 'matured' a bit.
[05:55] <Popescu> fonzarelli yes but it`s old version
[05:55] <kevin__> hey how do i make it remember my keyring password it asks me for it for some reason
[05:55] <fonzarelli> Popescu: ahh, ok
[05:55] <mantispa1m> scunizi: I ran that command and restarted X. The resolution is still very low
[05:56] <TokenBad> I am trying to install ubuntu onto a drive and have gparted partition the drive and set 1 partition format to ext3..but everytime tries to format to ext3 it errors out..any help?
[05:56] <BusterHymen> somewhat retarded question:  compiz fusion = power whore, correct?
[05:56] <BusterHymen> i'm trying to diagnose why my laptop battery is draining so fast
[05:56] <gnutron> BusterHymen: no doubt about it, yes.
[05:56] <temporarytao> BusterHymen, how old is your laptop?
[05:56] <BusterHymen> gnutron:  i declare the problem diagnosed
[05:56] <scunizi> mantispa1m, sorry I'm out of ideas
[05:56] <mylogic> because lithium ion battery are the suck
[05:56] <BusterHymen> temporarytao:  a few months old
[05:57] <BusterHymen> mylogic:  yes, i've heard they don't have much of a lifespan
[05:57] <mylogic> I think the better question would be, what kind of laptop is your battery powering?
[05:57] <temporarytao> BusterHymen, what's the model? how many hours does it last?
[05:57] <mantispa1m> scunizi: thats cool. Thanks for helping. X is incredibly complex. I hate it when it fails.
[05:57] <BusterHymen> temporarytao:  it's a system76 serval.  it lasts about 3 hours. but i could squeeze almost four out of vista...
[05:57] <Popescu> scunizi help me again ->>root@florin:~/ircu2.10.12.12# make
[05:57] <Popescu> cd . && autoconf
[05:57] <Popescu> /bin/sh: autoconf: not found
[05:57] <Popescu> make: *** [configure] Error 127
[05:57] <FloodBot3> Popescu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:58] <mylogic> They are looking into using silicon in lithium ion batteries, will be able to offer something like 10x the battery life and takes next to no time to charge
[05:58]  * temporarytao envies BusterHymen 
[05:58] <BusterHymen> temporarytao:  but i'm guessing the graphics card is largely responsible.  it's a nvidia 8800gt or something like that
[05:58] <BusterHymen> temporarytao:  yeah it's a nice piece.  i highly recommend it
[05:58] <kevin__> when i turn on my machine the display resets a few times and makes me start up in low graphics mode and gnome sessions are scrambled but kde is looks ok
[05:58] <BusterHymen> temporarytao:  is there some advanced power management tool i can use?
[05:58] <Popescu> scunizi ?
[05:59] <temporarytao> BusterHymen, i suggest you remove compiz effects you don't actually use
[05:59] <BusterHymen> yeah that's probably a good start
[05:59] <Popescu> who can help me ? i have problem with "make"
[05:59] <BusterHymen> i mean 3 hours isn't bad... but you know. MOAR = BETTAR
[05:59] <scunizi> Popescu, sorry I don't know how to fix what you're doing.. just had a suggestion on build essential
[06:00] <temporarytao> BusterHymen, i don't really know. I've searched into this before and i think you need to be careful with that.
[06:00] <BusterHymen> Popescu:  i know next to nothing about "make" but 9 out of 10 problems i've had were because i forgot to install build-essential
[06:00] <BusterHymen> temporarytao:  with power options?
[06:00] <fonzarelli> Popescu: sudo apt-get install autoconf
[06:00] <scientes> !ebox
[06:00] <Popescu> BusterHymen i installed build-essential
[06:00] <sekyourbox> syntax error
[06:01] <central> madwifi-ng airodump-ng airmon-ng are not compatible with ubuntu8.10 ??? is that truth ???
[06:01] <fonzarelli> Popescu: you will probably get a few "not founds" if you're not installing dependencies first.    you can search the repos for each dependany like this:   apt-cache search autoconf
[06:01] <BusterHymen> Popescu:  haha good =)  I'm afraid a sanity check is the only help I have to offer
[06:01] <sekyourbox> sorry wrong window
[06:01] <gnutron> BusterHymen: ubuntu compiles using /bin/dash  instead of /bin/bash  this has been known to cause compiliation problems
[06:01] <central> madwifi-ng airodump-ng airmon-ng are not compatible with ubuntu8.10 ??? is that truth ???
[06:01] <temporarytao> BusterHymen, i think it had something to do about a power setting that would continuosly park/unpark the harddrive head....i don't know if this is still a problem now
[06:01] <Popescu> tanks
[06:01] <MHz128> central,  google airmon-ng\
[06:02] <central> i did
[06:02] <BusterHymen> temporarytao:  yeah i just tweaked that recently
[06:02] <BusterHymen> i remember some mention about it busting up harddrives, but i think it's been largely fixed... afaik anyway
[06:02] <gnutron> Popescu: ubuntu compiles using /bin/dash  instead of /bin/bash  this has been known to cause compilation from source problems. just a thought.
[06:03] <temporarytao> hopefully so
[06:03] <BusterHymen> On a different note, does anybody know how i might squeeze a bit more performance out of wine?  it's a bit sluggish
[06:03] <raevol> question: why is the widget interface for google earth on my ubuntu so ugly? i feel like i'm missing some part of X that makes the interface look better?
[06:04] <Popescu> locate: can not open `/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db': No such file or directory
[06:04] <BusterHymen> raevol:  the $WIN variable is probably set to false ;-)
[06:04] <raevol> BusterHymen, how would i check that?
[06:04] <jimmio> anyone know of a utility that guesses the extra pixels in a small picture to make it bigger?
[06:04] <BusterHymen> raevol:  just a joke lol
[06:05] <BusterHymen> raevol:  i should have clarified
[06:05] <raevol> BusterHymen, mmk
[06:05] <BusterHymen> raevol:  sorry =)
[06:05] <exEVil> re all
[06:05] <paul68> when I use ssh -X does it mean that the screen of my server stays open even when I am rebooting the server?
[06:05] <cellofellow> Ok, my DVD+RW/CD+RW drive has decided to stop being a DVD drive.
[06:05] <temporarytao> cellofellow, lol
[06:06] <temporarytao> good 1
[06:06] <fonzarelli> Popescu: http://www.compwrite.com/index.php/2008/04/13/locate-can-not-open-varlibmlocatemlocatedb/
[06:06] <exEVil> re all
[06:06] <n8tuser> paul68 -> nope
[06:07] <Popescu> I installed ircu2.10.12.12 the root user and I do not know where to look for configuration ircd.conf
[06:07] <paul68> n8tuser: ok thanks
[06:07] <exEVil> tell me pls name of room ubuntu-ru
[06:07] <Flannel> !ru | exEVil
[06:08] <Khisanth> paul68: if you installed ircd-ircu that would be in /etc/ircd/ircd.conf
[06:08] <n8tuser> paul68 -> best way is to test it
[06:08] <exEVil> can't connect ubuntu-ru
[06:08] <node357> exEVil, /j #ubuntu-ru
[06:08] <Khisanth> oops wrong person
[06:08] <paul68> ok thanks
[06:08] <gnutron> exEVil: /join #ubuntu-ru
[06:09] <arquebus> !pico
[06:10] <Flannel> pico is PIne COmposer, a non-free curses text editor, nano is its free equivalent
[06:10] <kevin__> how do i enter my password to get elevated permissions
[06:10] <scunizi> kevin_, use sudo before the command
[06:11] <kevin__> well i want to edit a file
[06:11] <scunizi> kevin_, what file
[06:11] <raevol> question: why is the widget interface for google earth on my ubuntu so ugly? i feel like i'm missing some part of X that makes the interface look better?
[06:11] <kevin__> etc/pam.d/gdm
[06:11] <kevin__> @include common-pamkeyring
[06:11] <losetheshizzle> there is a god in norway!  my wireless problems were finally solved after following the norwegian steps from this site: http://simplyeko.com/acer/mengaktifkan-atheros-wifi-ar242x-di-laptop-acer-aspire-3684/
[06:12] <scunizi> kevin_, sudo gedit /etc/pam.d/gdm .... or .. sudo nano /etc/pam.d/gdm
[06:12] <kevin__> whats the diff?
[06:12] <scunizi> kevin_, gedit is for the gui and nano work in terminal
[06:13] <kevin__> thanks
[06:13] <dialledin> when i run pon as a normal user i get the error "only members of the 'dip' group can use this command." unfortunately this still happens after adding he current user to that group
[06:13] <scunizi> kevin_, nice to know both.. np
[06:13] <fonzarelli> dialledin: has that user logged out and back in
[06:13] <dialledin> i may have re-created the group by accident
[06:13] <dialledin> fonzarelli: yep
[06:13] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hi guys
[06:14] <dialledin> fonzarelli: is adding a group of the same name likely to overwrite the existing one and cause this kind of problem?
[06:15] <scunizi> dialledin, not sure what pon is but if it's a service you might have to restart it.
[06:15] <Makuseru> Whenever I open Ardour, the window is longer than my screen is, and when i grab the edge to resize it I can make it longer, but not shorter. Is there any way to force this to resize to a smaller width?
[06:15] <fonzarelli> dialledin: not sure.  you can view groups by looking at the /etc/group file.   is dip in there twice?
[06:16] <mathijs> Does anyone know when the 64-bit flash plugin will be available in ubuntu? Jaunty? Or will it be a backport/ppa?
[06:16] <kingfishr> mathijs, you can use it already
[06:17] <mathijs> kingfishr: I know, doing that :)  just want to know when it's in some repository, I don't like non-managed software.
[06:17] <BusterHymen> what is Remote Desktop exactly?  Is that a VNC client/server?
[06:18] <jimmio> Why can't I set an env variable named PROJECTS to /home/jimmio/Twisted Steel Studios/Projects? I can set it, but then when used the \ never shows up before the spaces so it doesn't work =/
[06:18] <scunizi> BusterHymen, yep pretty much
[06:18] <kingfishr> mathijs, surely not for a while, seeing as it's classified as 'alpha' atm (although I find it to be much more stable than the previous solution)
[06:18] <BusterHymen> scunizi:  it's listed as a startup program in my Sessions Preferences?  Does that mean I have a vnc server running in the background?
[06:18] <PsiKloPx> just updated adobe flash, now videos don't play (Hulu.com)
[06:19] <PsiKloPx> through synaptic
[06:19] <scunizi> BusterHymen, probably.. check System>preferences>remote desktop for the right switches.
[06:20] <BusterHymen> scunizi:  is it easy to remove the app altogeather or should I just remove it from my startup programs if I don't want to use it?
[06:20] <mathijs> kingfishr: yeah me too, that's why I would expect it to be backported to intrepid and even hardy, since on those systems, flash still crashes many times and make you close your browser or killall npviewer.bin. If ubuntu values alpha/beta labels better than actual stability, that's disappointing
[06:21] <scunizi> BusterHymen, remove it from the startup programs or disable it in the link I gave you before.
[06:21] <kingfishr> mathijs, isn't it nice not having to deal with the 32-bit emulation crap anymore?
[06:21] <BusterHymen> scunizi:  seems to already be disabled
[06:21] <jeeves_Moss> is there a way to d-load all of the plugins for Nessus for personal use?
[06:21] <\slash> geez im in my car and the internet is still connected
[06:22] <\slash> hoooray for netgear
[06:22] <scunizi> BusterHymen, then remove it from the startup programs.. that should do it.
[06:23] <BusterHymen> sweeet
[06:23] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hi guys
[06:23] <ohletmeinnowgodd> i have a question concerning transmission
[06:23] <Velqz> who helps me with it to create a script to delete a file and then you can recover
[06:23] <mathijs> kingfishr: I think flash is my last bit of 32bit software, except for wine, but that's M$'s problem more than ours
[06:23] <ohletmeinnowgodd> and their chat room is all but empty
[06:23] <gluonman> Can I reformat an external HDD using Ubuntu?
[06:23] <ohletmeinnowgodd> you should be able to
[06:24] <tech0007> gluonman: yup
[06:24] <kindofabuzz> you can do anything with linux
[06:24] <ohletmeinnowgodd> using the partition tool
[06:24] <mathijs> kingfishr: ah found one other.... googleearth is 32 too, but it doesn't have the compatibility problems that are introduced by using a 32 bit plugin inside a 64bit app
[06:24] <Omar87> When I tried playing an .rm video using VLC, it gave me this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77312/
[06:24] <ohletmeinnowgodd> anyone here knows how to add a list of trackers into a running torrent?
[06:24] <ohletmeinnowgodd> into transmission that is
[06:25] <tech0007> Omar87: you're playing over the internet?
[06:26] <ohletmeinnowgodd> How do  I add a list of new trackers into a running torrent in transmission? Anyone?
[06:26] <Omar87> tech0007: I don't thing so. I've downloaded it to my computer.
[06:26] <relisys> hi
[06:26] <mathijs> ohletmeinnowgodd: just use azureus :)
[06:26] <xingjiu> my english  is so poor that I can't understand your meanings
[06:27] <relisys> is there an alternitive in gnome to Nautilus explorer?
[06:27] <jeeves_Moss> anyone?  Nessus plugin download
[06:27] <ohletmeinnowgodd> mathijs is azureus as much of a memory hog in nix world as it is in wondows?
[06:27] <Khisanth> Omar87: that looks like you downloaded a file that points to the actual file :)
[06:27] <Khisanth> Omar87: what is the size of the file you downloaded?
[06:27] <TurboBee> mathijs, azureus is HORRIBLE
[06:27] <TurboBee> :D
[06:27] <relisys> is there an alternitive in gnome to Nautilus explorer?   anyone?
[06:27] <ohletmeinnowgodd> mathijs: is azureus as much of a memory hog in nix world as it is in wondows?
[06:28] <TurboBee> ohletmeinnowgodd, use rtorrent or ktorrent... preferrably rtorrent
[06:28] <ohletmeinnowgodd> ok that answered my question :)
[06:28] <mathijs> ohletmeinnowgodd: a bit more, it doesn't leak or anything, just uses a bit more, but my 8gb mem won't mind... it's at least full-featured
[06:28] <BusterHymen> ohletmegonowgodd:  yes
[06:28] <Omar87> Khisanth: Oh my God, it's only 341 bytes!
[06:28] <TurboBee> but if you can't stand cli use ktorrent
[06:28] <BusterHymen> ohletmeinnowgodd:yes
[06:28] <fonzarelli> relisys: you could install something else, like pcmanfm or thunar
[06:29] <ohletmeinnowgodd> ok well for now though i already have a torrent running, and i wanna complete it before i go client splunking, can i add a list at once?
[06:29] <relisys> are they any good?
[06:29] <we1> hey guyz..can anyone help how can i install the gnomenu that i downloaded?
[06:29] <fonzarelli> relisys: they are fast, all depends on what you want to acomplish
[06:29] <mathijs> TurboBee: If I compare downloading speed in rtorrent / azureus, it seems azureus completes everything way faster.
[06:29] <maxxist_> hey folks I am looking for ways to lighten a default xubuntu install as much as possible.  I have already removed programs in the apps menu i will not use.  I would like to also stop stop services i dont need.  also any hiden files anywhere i might be able to ditch to save some space would be awesome....
[06:30] <Driv3r912> Anyone here know where I can obtain the "Volume Monitor" application. Can I download it through apt-get or what? I haven't been able to find a solution.
[06:31] <TurboBee> mathijs, I've had nothing but slow downloads and problems with azureus... rtorrent was always ridiculously fast. I would literally cap out a 100mbit line with rtorrent if there was enough bandwidth needed or available
[06:32] <TurboBee> mathijs, but if azureus works good for you stick with what works :)
[06:32] <n8tuser> maxxist -> you should have used debootstrap method to install, you just then add packages you needed
[06:32] <tech0007> TurboBee: try deluge
[06:32] <ohletmeinnowgodd> will utorrent be ported to nix?
[06:32] <TurboBee> I've never heard of deluge I'll give it a try
[06:32] <TurboBee> is it gui or cli?
[06:32] <Velqz> I need help creating a script to delete a file and then you can recover again
[06:32] <tech0007> TurboBee: gui...kinda like utorrent
[06:33] <TurboBee> is it better than ktorrent?
[06:33] <TurboBee> in your opinion?
[06:33] <tech0007> TurboBee: i find deluge lighter (no java) and faster i use it all the time
[06:33] <TurboBee> it looks pretty nifty
[06:34] <TurboBee> I'll have to give that a try sometime over this long weekend
[06:34] <mathijs> TurboBee: well, I would like to switch, since I hate java. But like I said, I tried many clients but none of them had all features I wanted (dht, encryption), or they would just download stuff slower.
[06:34] <ohletmeinnowgodd> anyways, so i cant manually add a tracker list to running transmission torrents?
[06:34] <tech0007> TurboBee: i stick to gnome, so no i havent tried ktorrent
[06:34] <TurboBee> mathijs, have you tried deluge?
[06:34] <TurboBee> oh I installed ktorrent on a gnome desktop XD
[06:34] <TurboBee> I guess that was against the rules ;)
[06:35] <tech0007> TurboBee: nope, you're free to customize whatever you like it
[06:35] <TurboBee> heh
[06:35] <kernando> i ahve 8.04 installed on my computer how do i know if i should install 8.10?
[06:35] <TurboBee> oh neat, deluge has a web ui too?
[06:35] <PsiKloPx> how do i uninstall/remove flash?  Firefox says version 9 but Adobe says version 10.
[06:35] <tech0007> TurboBee: yup, thru plugins
[06:35] <TurboBee> nice
[06:35] <TurboBee> I'm DEFINITELY gonna give tha try
[06:35] <PsiKloPx> try to upgrade and it says later version installed.
[06:35] <mathijs> TurboBee: nope, never heard of, I'll have a look, although it's gtk/glade, and I prefer KDE.
[06:35] <TurboBee> there was another client that had a web interface but the torrent downloads were super slow
[06:36] <TurboBee> it was called transission I think
[06:36] <TurboBee> transmission
[06:36] <ohletmeinnowgodd> anyways, so i cant manually add a tracker list to running transmission torrents?
[06:36] <TurboBee> yeah transmissionbt
[06:36] <TurboBee> I really liked it for it's web interface :/
[06:36] <tech0007> PsiKloPx: try reinstalling flashplugin-nonfree
[06:36] <mathijs> TurboBee: also, being written in python won't be an advantage for a torrent client I think, might be resource hungry
[06:36] <mabus> TurboBee: honestly, my favorite linux torrent client with a gui is utorrent + wine
[06:37] <ohletmeinnowgodd> yeah but thats not a nix client
[06:37] <ohletmeinnowgodd> turbo
[06:37] <TurboBee> mabus I have emotional problems with that
[06:37] <TurboBee> haha
[06:37] <nintendork32> what version of gnome does ubuntu intrepid ibex use?
[06:37] <TurboBee> I run utorrent on my vista computers, but anything linux needs native stuff imo
[06:37] <ohletmeinnowgodd> thats emulation... do the dev's of utorrent not wanna work on nix?
[06:37] <tech0007> transmission is too simple
[06:37] <mabus> TurboBee: rtorrent is better though, if you dont need a gui. it has a watch directory which is pretty cool.
[06:38] <ohletmeinnowgodd> turbo:agree tech:thats why i like it so far...but thi swhole "no adding of tracker list" kinda sucks
[06:38] <tech0007> ohletmeinnowgodd: just like i said
[06:38] <TurboBee> well I use rtorrent for me (not lately though), but my room mates all have linux phobia so they can only use gui applications
[06:38] <BusterHymen> <ultimate n00b question> is it possible to run OSX software on linux since OSX is *nix-based?  </ultimate n00b question>
[06:38] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hey heres a noob question
[06:38] <ohletmeinnowgodd> umm
[06:39] <vancomycin> (8.10+nvidia 177 activated drivers) any ideas how i can see VIDEO on VLC player i can hear the audio but NO video / even tried changing video output in vlc to x11 video and default outputs / no luck / medibuntu(w32codecs+libdvdss2) are installed / also did "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" - NO LUCK! video/audio plays in wmplayer - but there is an error that keeps flashing fast : [AO_ALSA] Unable to find simple control
[06:39] <vancomycin>  'PCM',0 ///  file plays NORMAL in "movie player" //this is an avi (xvid mpeg-4) file for example.
[06:39] <ohletmeinnowgodd> if i install something using apt get
[06:39] <rww> BusterHymen: not generally, no. Most OS X applications use Apple
[06:39] <ohletmeinnowgodd> will it be updated in synaptics package manager>?
[06:39] <BusterHymen> ohletmeinnowgodd:  yes
[06:39] <nintendork32> what version of gnome does ubuntu intrepid ibex use?
[06:39] <rww> 's proprietary itnerfaces for GUI, so it's complicated to port to linux
[06:39] <TurboBee> BusterHymen, but there is usually a good chance that the application you want to run on linux has a linux version as well.
[06:39] <mathijs> BusterHymen: non-gui apps yes, everything cocoa/aqua won't work since apple keeps its gui closed-source
[06:40] <BusterHymen> TurboBee:  yeah it was more of a theoretical question
[06:40] <BusterHymen> rww:  what is apple, exactly?
[06:40] <TurboBee> a fruit
[06:40] <TurboBee> XD
[06:40] <andresmh> i am trying to display my google calendar appointments on the gnome clock by doing: /usr/lib/evolution-webcal/evolution-webcal http://www.google.com/calendar/blah/basic.ics
[06:40] <rww> BusterHymen: I hit [Enter] by mistake. See the rest of the message a few lines down >.>
[06:40] <BusterHymen> mathijs:  cocoa/aqua is the mac equivalent of xorg or gtk or something?
[06:40] <tech0007> vancomycin: did you check this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683
[06:40] <BusterHymen> rww:  aah it all makes sense =)
[06:40] <rww> still getting used to my eeepc keyboard >.>
[06:41] <rww> BusterHymen: Yes, it is.
[06:41] <andresmh> but it doesn't show it, is there a way to show/hide appointments?
[06:41] <rww> BusterHymen: GTK, specifically
[06:41] <andresmh> on the gnome clock
[06:41] <mathijs> BusterHymen: like that yes, but mac also has X11 and most libs (gtk, qt) work well on mac, even without x11. Just not the other way around
[06:41] <tech0007> andresmh: i use evolution to import the .ics file, then it shows up on my clock
[06:42] <kornejo> hi can some one helps me plz im having problems with skype every time y click on test cam displays a green screen n then skype crash
[06:42] <BusterHymen> mathijs:  gotcha. because the kernel is pretty similar to linux, right?
[06:42] <vancomycin> hey tech0007 - no i didn't see this thread, i hope there's an answer in there that i haven't already done in my original question post here - :)
[06:42] <mib_dqdh1d> hey
[06:42] <andresmh> tech0007, yeah, that's what i want. and i got it to work before (on anothe rcomputer) but not even an appointments section shows up on the click
[06:42] <andresmh> clock
[06:42] <rww> BusterHymen: The OS X and Linux kernels are very different.
[06:42] <mib_dqdh1d> i want to mount the windows partition in my newly installed ubuntu
[06:42] <mib_dqdh1d> ??
[06:42] <BusterHymen> rww:  i thought they shared some similarity?  aren't mac fanboys always touting the unix-like features of OSX?
[06:42] <mathijs> BusterHymen: more to freebsd, but it's posix-compliant, which is some kind of specification that most *nixes comply to.
[06:42] <gabrielcz> Hello all there....
[06:43] <gabrielcz> I need some help changing collation of a mysql server...
[06:43] <gabrielcz> default uses: latin1_swedish_ci
[06:43] <gabrielcz> I want to change that to other collation....
[06:43] <RAdams> gabrielcz: #mysql
[06:43] <BusterHymen> mathijs:  yeah what exactly is posix, anyway?  That seems to come up a lot in the history of linux...
[06:43] <gabrielcz> Im there...
[06:43] <tech0007> andresmh: try File->import in evolution and see if it works...you need to download the .ics first
[06:43] <gabrielcz> no one alive ;P
[06:43] <mib_dqdh1d> i want to mount the windows partition in my newly installed ubuntu
[06:43] <mathijs> BusterHymen: the thing about posix is that you can do kernels in _very_ different ways, but still have some api that most apps can work with.
[06:43] <rww> BusterHymen: Yeah, Linux and OS X share some common interfaces. For example, their command-line stuff is similar (due to POSIX), so lots of command line stuff can be ported.
[06:44] <RAdams> BusterHymen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX
[06:44] <mib_dqdh1d> but my OS is not detecting the MS partition
[06:44] <rww> BusterHymen: And there are GTK interfaces for most common operating systems, including Windows and OS X. Same with QT. So GNOME and KDE apps can be ported to those OSes, with varying degrees of success.
[06:44] <tech0007> mib_dqdh1d: try 'sudo fdisk -l'
[06:44] <BusterHymen> Oh okay, so POSIX is a standard more than an actual structure/architecture
[06:45] <rww> BusterHymen: correct
[06:45] <RAdams> Yes
[06:45] <mib_dqdh1d> yes den tech0007
[06:45] <mathijs> BusterHymen: it's just some standards that most unixes have agreed on, it's the api/interface that a kernel gives to applications to get stuff done. The way they implement it below that layer is their choice, as long as the applications don't have to worry about it.
[06:45] <RAdams> does anyone have screenlets working in 8.10?
[06:46] <tech0007> mib_dqdh1d: do you see HPFS/NTFS?
[06:46] <RAdams> Mine never remember settings, but the configs populate in the home folder
[06:46] <BusterHymen> mathijs:  i think I get it.  So really, you can have a layer to translate posix-compliant commands into a completely different syntax/language and still have the system be posix-compliant, despite the low-level structure ... if i even expressed that clearly
[06:46] <rww> BusterHymen: yeah
[06:47] <mathijs> BusterHymen: yup
[06:47] <BusterHymen> okay thanks guys!  Happy thanksgiving to all... i'm g oing to bed!
[06:47] <mib_dqdh1d> i seen the NTFS one tech0007
[06:47] <BusterHymen> with all my new knowledge
[06:47] <BusterHymen> lol
[06:47] <tech0007> mib_dqdh1d: that's your windoze partition
[06:48] <GFree> think you mean windows, not windoze. Easy mistake to make. :)
[06:48] <vancomycin> tech0007, thanks for that link - looks really helpful -
[06:48] <RAdams> no, tech0007 is right.
[06:48] <tech0007> GFree: nope, im not mistaking :p
[06:49] <mib_dqdh1d> tech0007 den mount command
[06:49] <vancomycin> tech0007, i'm going to follow that thread step by step - i was about to give up hope again and revert or re-install 8.04
[06:49] <mib_dqdh1d> am i right
[06:49] <tech0007> vancomycin: good luck
[06:49] <tech0007> mib_dqdh1d: do you see it in nautilus ?
[06:50] <andresmh> tech0007, i do see the calendar listed/working on Evolution itself but for some reason the appointments section is not showing up on the Gnome Clock. Any way I can enable it?
[06:50] <xscottx3> hi all
[06:50] <onats> vancomycin, hi. are you able to get correct resolutions and 3d?
[06:50] <rww> !hi | xscottx3
[06:50] <mib_dqdh1d> not the mount command says unable to mount partition
[06:50] <PsiKloPx> tried to upgrade openoffice to 3.0 - added source in "Software Sources", hit reload, no openoffice upgrade - nothing but an adobe flash upgrade.  Hit apply and now flash video doesn't work (Hulu.com).
[06:50] <xscottx3> i have a question concerning using a terminal...is there a command to show all the files in the specific location you are in?
[06:51] <ghang> hi
[06:51] <ghang> I have a question
[06:51] <fonzarelli> xscottx3: ls
[06:51] <xscottx3> fonzarelli: thank you
[06:51] <rww> xscottx3: ls to show all non-hidden files, ls -a to show all files, including hidden, ls -la to show additional information
[06:51] <andresmh> in short, my clock applet doesn't display appointments. how can i enable it?
[06:51] <ghang> I have install the flashplugin-nonfree, but still cannot open my swf , mplay say there is library missing , I don't know what library I still need to upgrade with apt-get
[06:51] <rww> xscottx3: the mneumonic for ls is LiSt
[06:51] <fonzarelli> xscottx3: files/directories whose names start with a period are hidden.  you can see everything with:  ls -a
[06:52] <mib_dqdh1d> not the mount command says unable to mount partition tech0007
[06:52] <rww> PsiKloPx: what exactly did you add in software sources?
[06:53] <andresmh> ah i figured it out
[06:53] <xscottx3> thanks everyone.
[06:53] <tech0007> mib_dqdh1d: check if you have ntfs-3g installed
[06:53] <andresmh> is there a way to have a message pop up 1 hr before an appointment?
[06:53] <Rug> Howdy all
[06:54] <PsiKloPx> rww: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main
[06:54] <mib_dqdh1d> how do i installed ntfs-3g tech0007
[06:54] <paul68> what can be the reason that I can't use ssh  when activation this iptable script
[06:54] <Daisuke_Ido> andresmh: set another appointment 1 hour before the actual appointment?
[06:54] <tech0007> mib_dqdh1d: 'sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g'
[06:54] <paul68> n8tuser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77316/
[06:55] <paul68> n8tuser: you can ignore that one :-)
[06:55] <rww> PsiKloPx: open up a terminal and issue "sudo apt-get update", then try again. Software Sources doesn't reload properly sometimes for me, and doing it manually tends to help
[06:55] <paul68> this is the script http://paste.ubuntu.com/77316/
[06:55] <andresmh> well, my question is more about how to trigger an alarm given that i already have my calendar set up to be displayed on the Gnome Clock
[06:55] <Rug> Interesting problem; I have been able to watch DVD's for a long time.  I just installed VMWare server and now I cannot play any DVD's.  Any suggestions?
[06:55] <ohletmeinnowgodd> is there anyway to look at my wireless adapters settings and maybe perform some tweaks(O/P power , Rx Sens etc)?
[06:56] <Popescu> any one can help me ?
[06:56] <Popescu> yacc -d ./ircd_parser.y
[06:56] <Popescu> make[1]: yacc: Command not found
[06:56] <Popescu> make[1]: *** [y.tab.h] Error 127
[06:56] <FloodBot3> Popescu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:56] <ohletmeinnowgodd> is there anyway to look at my wireless adapter's settings and maybe perform some tweaks(O/P power , Rx Sens etc)?
[06:57] <DavyZ> is there a way to install ares on ubuntu?
[06:57] <rww> Popescu: issue sudo apt-get install yacc build-essential from the Terminal.
[06:57] <Rug> ohletmeinnowgodd: i don't think so
[06:57] <xscottx3> davyz; through wine i would think
[06:57] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hmm
[06:58] <rww> Popescu: yacc is in the universe repository; if you've disabled that repository (you'll get an error message when doing apt-get if you have), go to Software Sources and reenable it
[06:58] <xscottx3> davyz: i know limewire can be installed on ubuntu i think
[06:58] <ohletmeinnowgodd> anyone else can validate rug?
[06:58] <DavyZ> is it.. let me check
[06:58] <Popescu> rww E: Could not find package yacc
[06:58] <ohletmeinnowgodd> is there anyway to look at my wireless adapters settings and maybe perform some tweaks(O/P power , Rx Sens etc)?
[06:59] <PsiKloPx> rww: two problems: openoffice isn't calling for an update as I expected it too, and now because of the flash update firefox can't play flash videos.  Just a giant play button that just disappears when you click on it.
[06:59] <xscottx3> dayvz: just checked for you, limewire has linux support.
[06:59] <paul68> what can be the reason that I can't use ssh  when activation this iptable script  http://paste.ubuntu.com/77316/
[06:59] <rww> Popescu: sorry, i
[07:00] <rww> Popescu: sorry, i'm too tired... replace yacc with bison
[07:00] <ohletmeinnowgodd> is there anyway to look at my wireless adapters settings and maybe perform some tweaks(O/P power , Rx Sens etc)?
[07:00] <rww> PsiKloPx: I don't use flash, so I can't help you there. The oo.org problem I'd expect to get fixed with an sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:01] <rww> assuming that file got added to your /etc/apt/sources.lst file right
[07:02] <Rug> Interesting problem; I have been able to watch DVD's for a long time.  I just installed VMWare server and now I cannot play any DVD's.  Any suggestions?
[07:02] <vans_me> anyone know how to get pigdin chat arcive in ubuntu, where pidgin save chat archive file?
[07:02] <ohletmeinnowgodd> MAN IWCONFIG
[07:02] <ohletmeinnowgodd> allows manual tinkering of wireless drivers
[07:03] <rww> vans_me: subfolder of /home/username/.pidgin/, if i remember correctly
[07:03] <Rug> vans_me: have you looked in the options/preferences screen?
[07:03] <ropetin> Hmmm, I'm having a weird issue, that hopefully won't mean I need to reinstall.  I just set up two new Hardy servers remotely.  Everything seemed fine.  When I try and log in locally, rather than typing the letters of my username, the screen shows little 'diamond' symbols
[07:03] <ropetin> Any ideas what might be up?
[07:05] <vans_me> ﻿Rug:Yes, but i can't find place to save archive?
[07:05] <Rug> vans_me: ahh sorry
[07:05] <vans_me> ﻿Rug:in logging, i checked Log all instant message
[07:06] <kija> vans_me: chat logs are in /home/.purple/logs
[07:07] <clay_> irc challenged ...how do i register i am having a ton of issues
[07:07] <rww> !register | clay_
[07:07] <toastedmilk> How do I delete a partition and allocate the rest of the space to the other?
[07:07] <prodigel> hi all. I'm trying to create multiple volume archives with file-roller and the options is disabled when selecting zip. Is there another package that must be installed in order for this to work?
[07:07] <rww> !gparted | toastedmilk
[07:07] <Rug> toastedmilk: try gparted
[07:08] <huwenfeng> HI all,  i get a problem ,  in my ubuntu 8.04 system, i am the user 'david', my user's uid is 1000. when i run ps aux , i found the first column is 1000, not my user name 'david', how can i change the 1000 to my user name 'david'?????
[07:08] <paul68> what can be the reason that I can't use ssh  when activation this iptable script  http://paste.ubuntu.com/77316/
[07:08] <asuseeepc4g> toastedmilk: be careful, you can delete all your data if you're not careful with gparted. backup your data
[07:09] <toastedmilk> asuseeepc4g, sweet.
[07:09] <toastedmilk> it says I have gparted but I can't find it, and should I run it from the partition I'm on that I want to keep?
[07:09] <huwenfeng> ﻿HI all,  i get a problem ,  in my ubuntu 8.04 system, i am the user 'david', my user's uid is 1000. when i run ps aux , i found the first column is 1000, not my user name 'david', how can i change the 1000 to my user name 'david'?????
[07:09] <huwenfeng> Can anybody help me?
[07:10] <asuseeepc4g> toastedmilk: gparted should be under System -> Administration, IRC
[07:10] <Rug> huwenfeng: You just asked that question, don't spam the channel please
[07:10] <asuseeepc4g> toastedmilk: you have to "unmount" a partition before you can resize it.
[07:10] <rww> toastedmilk: it probably will refuse to resize a partition you're using. Boot from a live CD, then do System > Administration > Partition Editor or something like that
[07:11] <panicfreek> yeah i'm registered now...LOL
[07:11] <rww> toastedmilk: or download the gparted live cd and use it
[07:11] <GodfatherofEire> Quick question: what portion of the gtkrc file would I modify in order to change the color of the buttons?
[07:12] <macjason0607> guys is there anything out there better then k9copy ?
[07:12] <panicfreek> i am having an issue with seeing the menu bars fonts...i have tried to change to dif profiles but that has not helped
[07:12] <DavyZ> how to make a irc shell?
[07:13] <panicfreek> there is just a "_" where "FILE" etc should be
[07:13] <john_> have a quick question.  I compiled from source the latest madwifi drivers but when I do a restart I have to sudo modprobe ath_pci every time I login
[07:13] <Rug> huwenfeng: try this:    ps aux -u david
[07:13] <john_> does a way exist to tell it to auto load this driver?
[07:13] <Rug> john_: insmod
[07:14] <huwenfeng> yes ,i run it , but just the same , all the user name that should be 'david' is still '1000'.
[07:15] <huwenfeng> or should i change some configure files ?
[07:15] <hmw_> when i ssh into my ubuntu, it takes several seconds, before the password prompt appears. the system has a low load. is this normal with ubuntu?
[07:15] <Rug> huwenfeng: at the command prompt type: whoami
[07:15] <john_> thanks RUG... looking into it now...
[07:15] <Rug> hmw_: no, not if your ssh keys are already loaded
[07:16] <jubuntu> I am not seeing my wireless icon in ubuntu studio after the installation any ideas?
[07:16] <hmw_lfs> hmm
[07:16] <huwenfeng> david
[07:17] <Rug> Interesting problem; I have been able to watch DVD's for a long time.  I just installed VMWare server and now I cannot play any DVD's.  Any suggestions?
[07:17] <huwenfeng> Rug: Yes, i am sure i am the user david, but the cmd ps shows all user name 'david' to my uid '1000',
[07:18] <noah> I don't understand how the new version of xserver (in 8.10) keeps track of what resolution the screen should be at
[07:18] <huwenfeng> Rug: the vmware may block your cdrom
[07:18] <Rug> huwenfeng: add a new user, launch a program, and check with ps aux -u NEWGUY
[07:18] <noah> I've been trying like mad to get things working but every time i restart the screen resolution is lower than the last time!
[07:19] <huwenfeng> Rug: you may just disconnect you CDROM from you vmware guest machine
[07:19] <noah> I'm at 320x240 by now and I'm scared to see what's next. I can barely even use chatzilla.
[07:19] <Rug> huwenfeng: I have stopped all vmware services and it still doesn't work
[07:20] <noah> so my question is: wtf is up with screen resolutions in ubuntu 8.10?
[07:20] <rww> !resolution | noah
[07:20] <paul68> what can be the reason that I can't use ssh  when activation this iptable script  http://paste.ubuntu.com/77316/  can it be because it aint mentioned in the forwarding rules?
[07:20] <friedtofu> anyone have experience with input out put errors on a usb drive?
[07:20] <Rug> friedtofu: try us
[07:21] <hmw_pidgin> paul68: repeat the link pls
[07:21] <paul68> what can be the reason that I can't use ssh  when activation this iptable script  http://paste.ubuntu.com/77316/  can it be because it aint mentioned in the forwarding rules?
[07:22] <noobuntu> hi guys i need some help. im currently at work and rebooted my Ubuntu 8.04 installation, since this i get Grub Error: 17. How can i quickly fix this?
[07:22] <nme> ubottu: ;) to restart X press ctrl+alt+backspace ;P
[07:22] <friedtofu> Rug: so basically, i can still read from this 8 gig usb drive. but when i write to it it has errors - i try to repartiton it and i still get errors. i try it in windwos and it doesnt work iether
[07:22] <hmw_pidgin> paul68: yes of course, youre dropping everything, except you tell it not to do so
[07:22] <panicfreek> can someone lend me a hand when they get a sec
[07:22] <hmw_pidgin> you need an input rule for icmp
[07:22] <Rug> friedtofu: what kind of errors?
[07:23] <rww> !ask | panicfreek
[07:23] <hmw_pidgin> panicfreek: i doubt, that anyone will take off their hand and send it to you. ask a question
[07:23] <friedtofu> Rug: when i make a file, copy a file, or do anything on that space an error message will pop up "Input/output error."
[07:23] <panicfreek> well i did and no  one answered
[07:24] <paul68> hmw_pidgin: so if I add the forward rule I should be ok? probably before the limited section right?
[07:24] <Rug> friedtofu: try fsck then formatting it
[07:24] <huwenfeng> friedtofu: you may not have permission on that dir , or that disk does not have enough space
[07:24] <hmw_pidgin> forwarding would only allow to forward a ping
[07:24] <fenerli7> when you play UT2004 in Linux, how do you switch back to desktop? (alt-tab doesn't work)
[07:24] <hmw_pidgin> if you want your machine to be pingable, you need an input rule
[07:25] <friedtofu> Rug: its fat32 - and i think its screwed up
[07:25] <panicfreek> all I see is " - " when i try to click where "File" should be I have changed the controls several times with no luck
[07:25] <Rug> so try to fix it with fsck
[07:25] <paul68> hmw_pidgin: what rule do I need to make it work then?
[07:25] <panicfreek> having the problem with k3B and several others
[07:26] <john_> I looked up insmod but I don't think it's what I want.  Does someplace exist, similar to "sessionli
[07:26] <john_> excuse my typing... meant to say "sessions"
[07:26] <paul68> hmw_pidgin: cause I have one in the input and output
[07:26] <Rug> john_: sessions?  never heard of them
[07:27] <hmw_pidgin> paul68: do you speak german? this is quite good: http://www.64-bit.de/dokumentationen/netzwerk/e/002/DE-IPTABLES-HOWTO-3.html --- it also shows a graph, how iptables work, so its useful for non german speakers as well. rule is coming...
[07:27] <friedtofu> Rug: i use fsck, and it tries to correct it, but it still doesnt write to it
[07:28] <GodfatherofEire> Could somebody tell me where I might modify the button colors in the gtkrc file?
[07:28] <hmw_pidgin> paul68: i didnt see, hmm... i'll take a look
[07:28] <paul68> hmw_pidgin: I understand german
[07:28] <AussieGuy> can bash spawn a new process without waiting for it to finish, like fork() in c?
[07:28] <john_> I don't want to have to type "sudo modprobe ath_pci" each time I reboot or wake my machine from hibernation
[07:28] <Rug> friedtofu: sounds like a permission issue.  Does it work in a different computer?
[07:29] <friedtofu> well. it wasnt working on my sister's computer so she gave it to me to try. and it doesnt seem to work on mine's either
[07:29] <Rug> john_: you don't have to, there is a list you add that to that loads every time you boot
[07:29] <Rug> friedtofu: odds are it might be dead
[07:29] <john_> thats what I'm looking for
[07:29] <mtinman> john_: There's a fix in the Release notes, Hold on, I'll find that link for ya...
[07:29] <hmw_pidgin> paul68: i am not sure but "! lo" seems wrong (the white space) - try !lo
[07:30] <paul68> hmw_pidgin: ok
[07:30] <panicfreek> rug any ideas on my "_" where File etc should be?
[07:30] <Rug> john_: ack I am sorry but I don't remember the name of the file.   But it does exist.
[07:30] <john_> thanks.  I was proud of myself for compiling from source my madwifi driver :-)
[07:31] <book> So, I'm trying to use a webcam in VMware (windows xp vm, unbuntu linux native) the cam is an ms nx-3000 and is not detected in the vm, any thoughts?
[07:31] <ellipsis_> http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/5862/weirdtabsscreenshothg7.png
[07:31] <Rug> panicfreek: you are having _what_ problems with k3b?
[07:31] <ellipsis_> anyone know what causes that when you install kubuntu on a GNOME ubuntu install?
[07:31] <john_> ok so I should be able to grep for some other driver that is mentioned in this file which would uncover it yes?
[07:31] <paul68> hmw_pidgin: can I message you in private?
[07:31] <panicfreek> i can see any of the options
[07:31] <panicfreek>  having the same issue on several programs
[07:31] <Rug> john, yes if you type:   lsmod that will ist all modules currently loaded
[07:32] <noah> the x resolutions wiki link is no help!
[07:32] <panicfreek> just d'ld ultimate 2.0 and this is my first exp with linux
[07:32] <noah> xrandr doesn't do a darn thing
[07:32] <Linx> hi
[07:32] <Rug> panicfreek: start over for me, I scrolled back and still don't see what you are talking about
[07:32] <|GaiJin|> guys... i have reformated /dev/sda2 partition in ext3, i want to mount it so that it will be working as my home directory. i know that the mountpoint would be /home and that... but what options will i be using??
[07:33] <panicfreek> i have a few programs where i cant see the file view etc options on a prgram
[07:33] <ay^> |GaiJin|: mine has defaults as option
[07:33] <panicfreek> all I see is "_" where the word "file should be
[07:33] <Linx> I am trying to pair a bluetooth GPS device but ubuntu used 1234 for the key.. then the devices manual says to use 0000... any ideas on how to fix this? I am using ubuntu 8.10
[07:34] <panicfreek> have tried to change dif profiles but none have helped
[07:34] <Rug> panicfreek: try hitting CTRL + M to unhide menubar
[07:35] <panicfreek> got that...now i cant see what's below each one
[07:35] <Rug> panicfreek: try hitting it again
[07:35] <ubuntu_> running ubuntu from live cd.  what's the terminal command to unmount a drive at /dev/sda6 ?
[07:35] <MrEgg964> Hi all :) In Intrepid, my cifs and nfs mounts no longer get automatically mounted at boot time. I connect to my local network thru wifi. Any suggestion?
[07:36] <samiko> hi, anybody knows how to start an application in a different language from the session?
[07:36] <panicfreek> rug: no good..i know new project should be there but all I see is "_"
[07:36] <Rug> ubuntu_: umount /dev/sda6
[07:36] <panicfreek> samething is happening on several programs
[07:36] <Rug> panicfreek: sorry
[07:37] <ubuntu_> Rug: gParted is still saying this: Please unmount any logical partitions having a number higher than 6.
[07:37] <noah> Anybody out there know the xserver well on Intrepid
[07:37] <panicfreek> i have tried to change profile but the words never come up
[07:37] <c0l2e> can anyone help http://pastie.org/325157
[07:38] <Rug> ubuntu_: type:  mount   to see a list of all mounted filesystems
[07:38] <panicfreek> unistalled several of them and re-installed and that didnt work
[07:38] <ubuntu_> Rug: it's not in the mount list
[07:38] <ohletmeinnowgod1> why is it that my ntfs partition doesnt automatically get "recognized" after startup (ie in rythmbox, desktop shortcuts ) untill i manually "access" it ?
[07:38] <phuzion> Anyone here know much about getting PHP talking with Active Directory?
[07:38] <panicfreek> had the same issue with openoffice, found answer in forum and fixed it
[07:38] <ubuntu_> Rug: should I take it out of the ext3 format?
[07:39] <Rug> ext3 is a fine fs
[07:39] <ubuntu_> Rug: so what's going on here?
[07:39] <Rug> Ububegin: solar flares
[07:39] <Ububegin> Rug: huh
[07:39] <Rug> =)
[07:39] <Rug> never mind
[07:40] <noah> I used to be able to get the xorg.conf into a usable configuration back in the good ole days of 6.06/6.10 but this new-fangled version in Intrepid doesn't seem to care about xorg.conf much
[07:40] <Rug> ubuntu_: so iif you type mount, there are no filesystems mounted?
[07:40] <Ububegin> Rug: you got the wrong guy, dude..
[07:41] <Rug> noah: that could be a good thing
[07:41] <noah> Rug: except that I don't know any other way to tell it that my monitor supports better than a 480x320 resolution
[07:42] <ubuntu_> Rug: finding a pastebin
[07:42] <Linx> I am trying to pair a bluetooth GPS device but ubuntu does not let me use 0000 for the key... how can I get the device paired? I am using ubuntu 8.10
[07:42] <noah> Rug: it was working before, but something broke it and ever since the resolution has gotten bigger each time the machine reboots
[07:42] <Linx> Does not give me the option to enter a key
[07:42] <Rug> sorry I don't run 8.10
[07:43] <Linx> it just picks one and then fails
[07:43] <heffay> can someone help me get my video working?
[07:43] <ohletmeinnowgod1> hey guys
[07:43] <GodfatherofEire1> Anybody know where in the gtkrc file I might find the button/check box xolor?
[07:44] <ohletmeinnowgod1> what happens if you have a program running, then when you click on its system tray icon, the gui pops up but its all "blank"
[07:44] <ohletmeinnowgod1> it shows up in "top"
[07:44] <ubuntu_> Run: http://pastebin.ca/1268370
[07:45] <prodigel> is there a way to create fixed size volumes using file-roller? I have the option but once I choose the archive type it disables itself.
[07:46] <ohletmeinnowgod1> what happens if you have a program running, then when you click on its system tray icon, the gui pops up but its all "blank"; it shows up now and then in "top"
[07:46] <PsiKloPx> I
[07:46] <ubuntu_> http://pastebin.ca/1268370, and gParted still says I have to unmount /dev/sda6.  Can someone help?
[07:46] <Linx> anyone able to help with 8.10 bluetooth pairing problem?
[07:47] <dhaka> ubuntu_: have you tried sudo umount /dev/sda6 froma  terminal?
[07:47] <ubuntu_> dhaka: check the pastebin
[07:47] <PsiKloPx> I've received the message 'use sudo apt-get autoremove' several times in the terminal while upgrading or installing.  Is this something I should run?  What is it going to do?
[07:47] <Rug> PsiKloPx: try running sudo apt-get autoremove
[07:48] <ubuntu_> dhaka: and if you mean specifically did I use 'sudo', then yes, to the same effect
[07:48] <heffay> when i startx all my montor says is "out of range"
[07:48] <Linx> removes packages that are no longer required
[07:48] <ubuntu_> dhaka: umount: /dev/sda6: not mounted
[07:48] <Rug> ubuntu_: try sudo umount /dev/sda6 -l
[07:48] <johndoe> how do i update to 8.10?
[07:48] <dhaka> ubuntu_: Ok, ok, sorry, I didnt see the pastebin before, my mistake.
[07:49] <Linx> usually packages that are installed as a dependency but the package that caused them to be installed was removed
[07:49] <PsiKloPx> Rug: when I google it I see that some people have had problems after running autoremove.  Just wanted to double-check.
[07:49] <Linx> so its suggested that you remove X packages also as they are not needed
[07:49] <Rug> PsiKloPx: just depends on what is getting removed
[07:49] <dhaka> ubuntu_: could you describe all the partitions in your disk? (/dev/sda)?
[07:49] <gluonman> How can I create a png in Ubuntu?
[07:50] <Rug> gluonman: gimp should be able to
[07:50] <mehul_yadav> HI
[07:50] <gluonman> Rug, would you know how to do it in Gimp?
[07:50] <Rug> low
[07:50] <PsiKloPx> Rug: that's not exactly comforting.
[07:50] <Rug> gluonman: file -> Save As
[07:50] <mehul_yadav> how to install NWC
[07:50] <mehul_yadav> ?
[07:50] <Rug> PsiKloPx: sorry
[07:51] <Rug> PsiKloPx: every system is different, read what needs to be removed, if it looks to scary for you, then don't do.
[07:51] <gluonman> Rug, what I mean is how can I take a .jpg and crop it into the shape of the image inside to make a png icon?
[07:51] <dhaka> ubuntu_: you know, the beginning of logical partitions, there is one partition which is not used. could it be /dev/sda6 on your disk?
[07:51] <ubuntu_> dhaka: /dev/sda1 = ext3, /dev/sda2 - extended, /dev/sda5 - linux-swap, /dev/sda6 - ext3, /dev/sda7 - linux-swap
[07:51] <Rug> PsiKloPx: This is how you learn.  By making mistakes
[07:52] <jscinoz> gah >_<
[07:52] <Rug> gluonman: I don't know, I odn't use gimp
[07:52] <gluonman> Rug, alright.
[07:52] <ohletmeinnowgod1> what happens if you have a program running, then when you click on its system tray icon, the gui pops up but its all "blank"
[07:52] <Rug> ohletmeinnowgod1: that is odd
[07:52] <Rug> ohletmeinnowgod1: kinda cool eh!
[07:52] <prodigel> j
[07:52] <Linx> new feature?
[07:53] <johndoe> when i try to enable desktop effects the scree goes whit, can anyone help me?
[07:53] <noah> gluonman: In GIMP open the jpg
[07:53] <johndoe> screen goes whit*
[07:53] <johndoe> e
[07:53] <{o_0}> How do I change my sound to 5.1? I've tried every forum post to no avail....
[07:53] <ohletmeinnowgod1> rug: yeah cool, if i was on windows!
[07:53] <noah> gluonman: I trust you can manage that much?
[07:53] <jscinoz> I am trying to install ubuntu in an encrypted LVM on my usb flash drive, because im doing some other hackery with this set up (two root lvms, one squashfs, one ext3, unioned with aufs, both inside dm-crypt) i couldnt use the automated encrypted root setup in the alternate installer. I have installed cryptsetup when chrooted into this installl, and run update-initramfs, cryptsetup, and all the modules are included, but conf/conf.d/crypt
[07:53] <jscinoz> root is not, and thus it doesnt ask for my password on boots, and drops to busybox because there is no root, any ideas what im doing wrong?
[07:54] <gluonman> noah, of course. I'm not a noob in many respects. Just in creating icons.
[07:54] <noobuntu> johndoe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=528427 maybe that helps
[07:54] <c0l2e> cannot connect to openvpn via network manager.. help!
[07:54] <noah> gluonman: OK, use the crop tool to select what you want, press enter to crop it
[07:54] <Rug> jscinoz: very cool I must admit
[07:54] <heffay> anyone?
[07:54] <gluonman> noah, I'll try that.
[07:55] <johndoe> noobuntu: thanks
[07:55] <noah> gluonman: then, in the image window, you can do File > Save As...
[07:55] <{o_0}> I'm using pulseaudio, conf files are set to 6 channels, but still only 2 channels in my soundmixer thingy...how do I get it to play 5.1?
[07:55] <heffay> when i run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it only handles my keyboard
[07:55] <jscinoz> Rug, yeah it mostly works, all i have to do is luksOpen the encrypted volume, and vgscan in busybox, then it continues booting
[07:55] <jscinoz> and it all works :P
[07:55] <noah> gluonman: select a PNG format (or just give the file name a .png) and it will give you conversion options
[07:55] <jscinoz> but im trying to get it to work automagically >_<
[07:55] <jscinoz> no idea why conf/conf.d/cryptroot isnt being created
[07:55] <noah> gluonman: any options it gives you should be fine as defaults
[07:56] <gluonman> noah, thank you.
[07:57] <Rug> jscinoz: try asking in #debian  those folks are a lot smarter then most of us.
[07:57] <jscinoz> will do thanks
[07:59] <theunixgeek> I would like to recommend this reading for any newcomers to Linux: http://theunixgeek.blogspot.com/2008/11/understanding-linux-filesystem.html
[07:59] <nick108> morning
[07:59] <ohletmeinnowgod1> what happens if you have a program running, then when you click on its system tray icon, the gui pops up but its all "blank" ?
[07:59] <ohletmeinnowgod1> what going on if you have a program running, then when you click on its system tray icon, the gui pops up but its all "blank"
[08:00] <nick108> I'm experiencing a weird mouse behaviour on Ubuntu Hardy Heron both under KDE and Gnome
[08:00] <gluonman> noah, the crop tool can only give me the shape of a square. I need to crop the image to conform to the edges of an irregular shape in the .jpg. How can I do that?
[08:00] <nick108> when I write text the cursor always jumps to the current mouse position
[08:01] <nick108> which makes it almost impossible to write more than a couple of words without repositioning the curor
[08:01] <noah> gluonman: You could use the lasso tool to meticulously select the shape you want
[08:01] <gluonman> noah, okay. I'll try to find that tool. I don't see it yet.
[08:02] <mtinman> nick108: Are your mouse and keyboard both USB?
[08:02] <Luxor> hm
[08:02] <noah> gluonman: or if it's a nice easy shape you could try the magic wand to see if it can auto select it for you
[08:02] <nick108> mtinman: I have a laptop with USB mouse attached, but have the same behaviour if I unplug the USB mouse
[08:02] <Linx> anyone know a good place to look for how to get a bluetooth device to pair.... ubuntu is using 1234 but my device wants 0000....
[08:03] <noah> gluonman: keep in mind, all icons are squares, though
[08:03] <gluonman> noah, alright.
[08:03] <mtinman> nick108: Hmm, have to think on that one, do you have a synaptic touchpad, or is it a thinkpad?
[08:04] <nick108> mtinman: synaptic I guess (HP)
[08:04] <gluonman> noah, some are circles.
[08:04] <EMPulse> hey guys
[08:04] <EMPulse> Whats the best RSS reader on Ubuntu?
[08:05] <Rug> EMPulse: I like akregator
[08:05] <noah> gluonman: those are squares too, they just happen to be transparent around the edges
[08:05] <gluonman> noah, oh. Maybe that's what I need. Transparency. Do you know how I can do that>
[08:05] <gluonman> ?
[08:05] <VistaUser> hey
[08:05] <VistaUser> can someone help me
[08:05] <EMPulse> Rug, cool thanks
[08:05] <noah> gluonman: Yes, the same thing you were doing before, for the most part
[08:05] <HRshovinstuff> Ubuntu is teh greatest
[08:05] <Rug> VistaUser: just ask
[08:06] <n-iCe> question
[08:06] <Rug> EMPulse: np
[08:06] <gluonman> noah, but how do I make the image transparent around the image?
[08:06] <n-iCe> define is, comment or uncomment
[08:06] <n-iCe> sorry, but I am not an english native speaker
[08:06] <noah> gluonman: you can use your method of choice to select the part that should be transparent
[08:06] <VistaUser> ok so i am trying to install my nvidia graphics but mymain monitor is broke so i use external and it wont show up after i go into restricted drivers and enable and reboot
[08:07] <Oni> Anyone spare a minute to help a new Ubuntu scrub?
[08:07] <Oni> Just divided laptop HDD into two partitions, put XP on the first and Ubuntu on the 2nd - however after spending some time playing games on XP , when i restart to go to Ubuntu it now gets stuck with error "kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot" and then just sits in terminal mode
[08:07] <noah> gluonman: or if it would be easier, select the part that should become the icon and then invert your selection (Select > Invert)
[08:07] <mtinman> nick108: Check here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-mouse/+bug/135062, it's a start, I have to go, the wifey is calling me to bed...
[08:07] <sigterm> doh
[08:07] <gluonman> noah, alright.
[08:08] <nick108> thx mtinman, greatly appreciated
[08:08] <VistaUser> anyone have a solution to my problem???
[08:08] <mtinman> nick108: np, have a good night, and good luck.
[08:08] <HRshovinstuff> VistaUser: your question doesn't make sense
[08:09] <co-basket> hi
[08:09] <gluonman> noah, so I use the lasso thing to trace the crop I want, then select transparent to fill it, then select invert for the whole image?
[08:09] <VistaUser> ok let me rephrase
[08:09] <sigterm> external monitor eh? unless you have a laptop that makes no sense
[08:09] <samiko> i have xfce but i want gnome-like clock on my panle -which package should i install?
[08:09] <co-basket> hii
[08:10] <theunixgeek> For any newcomers and powerusers alike: be careful not to confuse the terms "usr" and "user," as "usr" stands for "Unix System Resources," a naming legacy from System V.
[08:10] <HRshovinstuff> samiko:  gnomepanel ??
[08:10] <mehul_yadav> How To Install Cairo?
[08:10] <samiko> HRshovinstuff, so its a part of the gnome panel then....
[08:10] <noah> gluonman: Step one is get the part that needs to be transparent inside the selection (inside the flashing rope)
[08:10] <ubuntu_> I'm trying to delete a partition on which I was storing another version of linux, it's location is /dev/sda6.  However, it is under the /dev/sda2 tree along with /dev/sda7 and /dev/sda5, which are linux-swap keys.  How do I move the swap keys to be under /dev/sda1 so I can wipe out /dev/sda2?
[08:10] <jimmio> Hello all, not sure if this is a C++ question or if it falls under Ubuntu, but anyways, I'm trying to clear the terminal my app is running in... what do I dO?
[08:10] <VistaUser> ok so i have a laptop and the main monitor is broken so i have to use an external monitor. So when i tried to go into restricted drivers and use that as a platform to download and install the nvidia driver i need to reboot afterwards. so i do so. when it is booting up the external monitor says no signal after the loading bar
[08:10] <mehul_yadav> Cairo Dock?
[08:11] <gluonman> noah, alright.
[08:11] <c3nt0s> damn i keep getting bad sectors
[08:11] <sigterm> VistaUser, you have a screen switch function key?
[08:11] <HRshovinstuff> samiko: yah m0n
[08:11] <noah> gluonman: you can either select those parts by hand, or select the part that SHOULDN'T be transparent and then invert your active selection (Select > Invert)
[08:11] <samiko> HRshovinstuff, very sad.....
[08:11] <c3nt0s> it seems even fsck won't fix it
[08:11] <samiko> thanks anyway
[08:11] <c3nt0s> what are my options
[08:11] <ubuntu_> I'm trying to delete a partition on which I was storing another version of linux, it's location is /dev/sda6.  However, it is under the /dev/sda2 tree along with /dev/sda7 and /dev/sda5, which are linux-swap keys.  How do I move the swap keys to be under /dev/sda1 so I can wipe out /dev/sda2?
[08:11] <KDE4000|Away> VistaUser: hey
[08:11] <noah> gluonman: from that point there are only two simple steps
[08:11] <gabrielcz> question: I need to reboot a server when a script finish, Its ok to add this line "/sbin/reboot" ?
[08:11] <VistaUser> sigterm: what is that? and how do i use it to switch back to main
[08:12] <mehul_yadav> Can Anyone Help Installing Cairo-Dock?
[08:12] <gabrielcz> at the end of the script?
[08:12] <sigterm> erm its usually one of the F keys
[08:12] <gabrielcz> that will restart my server?
[08:12] <theunixgeek> jimmio: what do you mean?
[08:12] <sigterm> VistaUser, what kind of laptop?
[08:12] <theunixgeek> jimmio: to clear the terminal, type clear
[08:12] <theunixgeek> and press return
[08:12] <VistaUser> HP pavilion dv6000
[08:12] <Oni> Anyone able to tell me solution to "kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot..." and just being left in a DOS like terminal?
[08:12] <ubuntu_> mehul_yadav: you have to install it from the repositories.  There is documentation from the ubuntu community.
[08:12] <gluonman> noah, but when I selected the part that shouldn't be transparent, clicking invert didn't visibly do anything.
[08:12] <jimmio> theunixgeek: I mean, how do I clear it from within a C++ application?
[08:12] <ubuntu_> mehul_yadav: you have to install it from the repositories.  There is documentation from the ubuntu community.
[08:13] <ubuntu_> I'm trying to delete a partition on which I was storing another version of linux, it's location is /dev/sda6.  However, it is under the /dev/sda2 tree along with /dev/sda7 and /dev/sda5, which are linux-swap keys.  How do I move the swap keys to be under /dev/sda1 so I can wipe out /dev/sda2?
[08:13] <VistaUser> KDE4000|away: hey
[08:13] <sigterm> VistaUser, lower left corner, usually is the function key, then i believe uhm F4/5/6 one of those should have a monitor looking icon on it
[08:13] <mehul_yadav> How will i find the Documentation?
[08:13] <theunixgeek> jimmio: oh, #include <cstdlib>
[08:13] <c3nt0s> why is ubuntu so shitty when it comes to file corruptions
[08:13] <theunixgeek> jimmio: and then use system("clear");
[08:13] <ubuntu_> mehul_yadav: www.ubuntu.com
[08:13] <VistaUser> f4 is
[08:13] <ubuntu_> I'm trying to delete a partition on which I was storing another version of linux, it's location is /dev/sda6.  However, it is under the /dev/sda2 tree along with /dev/sda7 and /dev/sda5, which are linux-swap keys.  How do I move the swap keys to be under /dev/sda1 so I can wipe out /dev/sda2?
[08:13] <sigterm> so functionkey+F4 , see if that switches it over for you
[08:13] <theunixgeek> jimmio: if you want to port your app to DOS, make it system("cls");
[08:14] <mehul_yadav> How do i Format a Pen Drive?
[08:14] <VistaUser> sigterm: so if i use the f4 button it will switch back to the external monitor??
[08:14] <noah> gluonman: it's subtle: before you should have your flashing circle around your selection, after you have the same flashing circle as well as the outer edge flashing
[08:14] <sigterm> does on all 4 laptops here *shrug*
[08:14] <sigterm> mix of dell and lenovo's
[08:14] <VistaUser> sigterm: what is a function key???
[08:14] <kernando> how can i install windows xp on ubuntu so i can open it up like an application like ive seen in youtube vids??
[08:14] <sigterm> VistaUser, usuall it has "FN" on it
[08:14] <sigterm> VistaUser, in the lowerleft side of the keyboard
[08:14] <VistaUser> ooo ok
[08:14] <VistaUser> ill try brb
[08:14] <ubuntu_> I'm trying to delete a partition on which I was storing another version of linux, it's location is /dev/sda6.  However, it is under the /dev/sda2 tree along with /dev/sda7 and /dev/sda5, which are linux-swap keys.  How do I move the swap keys to be under /dev/sda1 so I can wipe out /dev/sda2?
[08:14] <Oni> Anyone able to tell me solution to "kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot..." during startup, and just being left in a DOS like terminal?
[08:14] <sigterm> good luck
[08:15] <gluonman> noah, there was no flashing outer edge.
[08:15] <HRshovinstuff> sigterm: you are sending him on a goose chase lawl
[08:15] <theunixgeek> mehul_yadav: http://www.google.com/search?q=format+pen+drive+ubuntu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[08:15] <theunixgeek> !google | mehul_yadav
[08:15] <HRshovinstuff> VistaUser: check your personal messages
[08:15] <sigterm> HRshovinstuff, nope i do it all the time for presentations off my laptops
[08:15] <mehul_yadav> Thank You
[08:16] <VistaUser> how?
[08:16] <noah> gluonman: you could find out real easy which part is selected: press delete (you can always undo with Ctrl + z)
[08:16] <HRshovinstuff> vistauser: click on the tab?
[08:16] <VistaUser> ok
[08:16] <Oni> I googled for over an hour , and although i saw my problem a few times i didnt see any answers besides "It's not actually an issue" , the person just didnt say how to get back to the GUI screen from Terminal
[08:16]  * sigterm burps
[08:16] <noah> gluonman: if it got rid of the middle instead of the edges, undo the delete, invert the selection, then delete again and see the difference
[08:16] <sigterm> course that might be a few beers talkin =D
[08:17] <sigterm> but honestly tho, i use that function all the time, works for me *shrug*
[08:17] <gluonman> noah, where is the delete option?
[08:17] <noah> gluonman: it should just be the delete key on your keyboard
[08:17] <Oni> Anyone able to tell me solution to "kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot..." during startup, and just being left in a DOS like terminal?
[08:18] <gluonman> noah, hm. Okay.
[08:18] <Oni> I want to get back into GUI ubuntu but it wont let me >.>
[08:18] <ay^> Oni: does startx work?
[08:19] <Oni> ill just try that
[08:19] <gluonman> noah, it isn't the Backspace key.
[08:19] <ay^> gluonman: how about delete?
[08:20] <Oni> ay^  , no it just says something about Ubuntu being free , then returns to the same terminal
[08:20] <gluonman> ay^, well, duh. Where is the delete command in gimp?
[08:20] <ay^> gluonman: deletet-key?
[08:20] <ay^> *delete
[08:20] <ay^> Oni: it doesn't say anything about what went wrong?
[08:20] <gluonman> ay^, it doens't do anything.
[08:21] <ay^> gluonman: thats wierd, I'm pretty sure it's delete on my gimp
[08:21] <theunixgeek> jimmio: did that work?
[08:21] <noah> gluonman: Not backspace, Delete (hopefully a key on your keyboard near insert/home/end)
[08:21] <gluonman> ay^, unless the Free Select Tool is what doesn't work with the delete key.
[08:21] <gluonman> noah, ay^ I realize I was confusing backspace with delete. Sorry.
[08:22] <ay^> gluonman: does delete work then?
[08:22] <jimmio> theunixgeek: Perfect. Just those in C++ barked for not using a path along with it... /usr/bin/clear it is. =P
[08:22] <noah> gluonman: try this: select (Layer > Transparancy > Add Alpha Channel)
[08:22] <Oni> ay^ I tried startx several times , now its sitting saying something about Backtrace? and then a number of Numbers and statements
[08:22] <gluonman> noah, delete works.
[08:22] <ay^> gluonman: great :)
[08:23] <noah> gluonman: after adding the alpha channel when you delete it will leave behind transparency instead of a solid color
[08:23] <gluonman> noah, at first I pressed delete and it deleted the desired object in the picture. Then I inverted it and clicked delete, and it didn't delete the image.
[08:23] <kelvin911> is there a golf game for ubuntu?
[08:23] <gluonman> noah, thank you so much. It finally worked.
[08:24] <noah> gluonman: you could also use the eraser tool to clean it up as necessary
[08:24] <paranoid_ndroid> kelvin911, kgolf and neverputt
[08:24] <reqqit> I have gimp 2.6 installed
[08:24] <ay^> Oni: I would probably have to read what the error is in order to be able to help you, so if you could copy/paste it, that might help
[08:24] <reqqit> Is that the gimp that is in the ubuntu repo?
[08:24] <ay^> Oni: if not in a pastebin in a pm
[08:24] <reqqit> the gimp 2.6.3 is out - is that in the updates?
[08:24] <gluonman> noah, thank you for your help.
[08:24] <reqqit> I don't see an update forit.
[08:25] <noah> gluonman: Glad to help. Once you have it to your liking the (File > Save As...) should have you fixed up nicely.
[08:25] <kelvin911> kolf?
[08:25] <ay^> reqqit: usually it takes a while for updated apps to be able in the repos (for instance eclipse is superold in the repos..)
[08:25] <kelvin911> and neverputt?
[08:25] <reqqit> Do I have to uninstall gimp and stop using package manager to manage the install and just install it myself?
[08:25] <Oni> ay^  - I'll just restart laptop so i get the error up again, just a second
[08:25] <gluonman> noah, yes, it's nice. Now off to do some cooking. Later.
[08:25] <reqqit> ay^, why?
[08:25] <kelvin911> is there something better than those 2?
[08:25] <ay^> renato_: I'm not quite sure, but I suppose it needs to be compiled and tested before presented as "good to go"
[08:25] <reqqit> Why can't gimp package their crap? It is bad enough that I have to use the gimp, when the fix for something I want to do is in 2.6.1, and I have 2.6.0.. forget it, uninstall reinstall
[08:25] <kelvin911> the golf game in my cell phone is better than those 2
[08:26]  * Panarchy says hi
[08:27] <Panarchy> Does anyone here know what channel to go to to get help with subnetting?
[08:27] <Panarchy> Does anyone here know what channel to go to to get help with subnetting?
[08:27] <macjason0607> guys is there a terminal command that can make me copy something faster to another directory ?
[08:27] <Panarchy> cp
[08:27] <macjason0607> other than cp
[08:27] <Oni> ay^ ok error occurs during startup, "Starting up.... Loading, please wait.....19+0 records in, 19+0 records out, kinit: name_to_dev_t(code stuff)   , kinit: trying to resume from /dev/disk/bu-uuid/etc   , kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot..."  and then it just sits with the command line terminal , thats it
[08:28] <Panarchy> have you tried booting into recovery mode?
[08:28] <Oni> Yeah , that didnt do anything either =S
[08:28] <Oni> tried running the tests etc
[08:28] <Panarchy> Boot into recovery mode
[08:28] <Panarchy> drop down the root shell
[08:28] <Panarchy> drop down to the root shell
[08:28] <Panarchy> type in fsck
[08:28] <Oni> Panarchy  ok, shall try that
[08:28] <Panarchy> Oni: Ok, tell us how it goes
[08:29] <Panarchy> Does anyone here know what channel to go for help with subnetting?
[08:29] <Oni> will do, half a second. Thank god for two computers
[08:29] <Panarchy> lol
[08:30] <Oni> Panarchy - "Warning!!! Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause severe filesystem damage. Do you want to continue?"
[08:30] <Oni> Hit yes? xD
[08:31] <Oni> Panarchy gonna hit yes anyway, all info is backed up
[08:32] <ay^> Oni: you could boot into liveCd and run it
[08:32] <ay^> Oni: but if you feel you can bare the risk, go for it
[08:32] <Oni> ay^ What would i do then though?
[08:32] <ay^> Oni: run fsck
[08:32] <Oni> ay^ oh right , its ok i hit yes here and it said.....
[08:33] <Oni> ay^ /dev/sda5:recovering journal  , fsck.ext3: Bad Magic number in super-block while trying to re-open /dev/sda5e2fsck: io manager magic bad!"
[08:33] <Panarchy> Oni
[08:33] <Panarchy> Is it continuing
[08:33] <Oni> Nope
[08:34] <Oni> Said that , then sits at Root terminal command again
[08:34] <Oni> waiting for me to type in something else
[08:34] <Panarchy> awww...
[08:34] <Panarchy> wait
[08:34] <Oni> hehe
[08:34] <Panarchy> you said all your info is backed up
[08:34] <Oni> yes
[08:35] <Panarchy> then just reinstall ubuntu (format first)
[08:35] <Panarchy> lol
[08:35] <Oni> I had this problem last night , i reformatted the entire computer , reinstalled XP and Ubuntu to fix it
[08:35] <Panarchy> ah...
[08:35] <Oni> and now its just back doing the same thing again
[08:35] <Panarchy> Sata?
[08:35] <ay^> bad disk?
[08:35] <Oni> Sata? its a little Dell Laptop
[08:35] <Panarchy> What model number
[08:36] <Panarchy> Does anyone here know what channel to go for help with subnetting?
[08:36] <Oni> inspiron 8600
[08:36] <Panarchy> woh
[08:36] <Panarchy> much newer then mine
[08:36] <Panarchy> 700m
[08:36] <Panarchy> lol
[08:36] <os1ris25> hello. I have a quick question. I have the ubuntu 8.10 installed on my laptop. Whenever i unplug the power cable the OS shuts down imidatly. Anyone know why this would happen and the fix for such an issue.. Thanks!
[08:36] <FloodBot3> Panarchy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:36] <Panarchy> oslris25 what model/brand?
[08:36] <Oni> Panarchy ^.^
[08:36] <os1ris25> i have a dell studio 17 laptop
[08:36] <Panarchy> Oni: :(
[08:36] <Panarchy> lol
[08:36] <ay^> mine is 1525N :)
[08:36] <Panarchy> awesome
[08:36] <Panarchy> what color
[08:36] <ay^> er.. not N
[08:36] <Panarchy> oslris25: what color?
[08:36] <os1ris25> blue
[08:37] <Panarchy> AWW
[08:37] <Panarchy> should've picked orange ;)
[08:37] <os1ris25> midnight blue :)) im a boy i picked blue heheheh
[08:37] <Panarchy> anyways, I'll try and help both of you guys out
[08:37] <Panarchy> so, I'm a boy, and orange is da best
[08:37] <b3aUty_9irL> ml;km
[08:37] <os1ris25> oh i just said it since i had no real awnser for it..
[08:37] <b3aUty_9irL> askum?
[08:38] <btb996> does ununtu support jdk6?
[08:38] <os1ris25> Well here is the weird thing. It was fine but all of the suden it will just shutdown as soon as i pull the power cable
[08:38] <johannix> hello, i'm trying to develop a web app, while offline and keep getting a "firefox in offline mode" error, anyone have any ideas how to fix this. I've tried googling this and my searching leads to another error related to work offline...
[08:38] <ay^> os1ris25: did you check power saving settings?
[08:38] <Panarchy> http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/ubuntu?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&dgc=IR&cid=11973&lid=471885
[08:38] <os1ris25> well that might be obvious. hah checking now..l
[08:39] <hot_wheelz> Does of any devices like this that work OTB in ubuntu 8.10
[08:39] <hot_wheelz> http://www.anyware.com.au/Browse/7030c139771a4c5d91ab623eaebf0de2001ItemDetail.aspx
[08:39] <Panarchy> oslris25: I've got an idea... this will stop the problem occuring GUARNTEED
[08:39] <Panarchy> don't unplug your laptop
[08:39] <Oni> Oh well ima try and reinstall again , thanks for trying anyway guys!
[08:39] <Panarchy> LOL LOL LOL
[08:39] <Panarchy> Oni: Do a chkdsk of drive first
[08:39] <os1ris25> well ok so i just checked its fine on the settings there
[08:39] <Oni> btw - Os1ris25  , are you sure your battery isnt dead?
[08:39] <Oni> like past it , had it
[08:40] <os1ris25> i mean i unplug it aND IT SAYS ITS CRITICLY LOW AND .. BOOM
[08:40] <b3aUty_9irL> ngumung opo?
[08:40] <os1ris25> sorry about the caps
[08:40] <Oni> Sounds like a screwed battery Imo
[08:40] <ay^> !cz | b3aUty_9irL
[08:40] <MHz128> hello!
[08:40] <Popescu> any one know to install GNUworld?
[08:41] <os1ris25> nah batter is fine .. i can load vista just fine for hours
[08:41] <os1ris25> on battery power
[08:41] <MHz128> How can I change my wifi card's Mac address, while using Network Manager for connections...?
[08:41] <hot_wheelz> Sorry I mean: Does anyone know of any devices like this that work OTB in ubuntu 8.10
[08:41] <ay^> hot_wheelz: like what?
[08:41] <cypressx3> haloe
[08:42] <Popescu> any one know to install GNUworld?
[08:42] <cypressx3> could some1 help me a second?
[08:42] <btb996> where can i download java for ununtu?
[08:42] <ay^> Popescu: No
[08:42] <ay^> btb996: the repos
[08:42] <os1ris25> cypress. Just ask awayt ;)\
[08:42] <Myrtti> !java | btb996
[08:42] <ay^> !ask cypressx3
[08:42] <ay^> !ask | cypressx3
[08:42] <hot_wheelz> http://www.anyware.com.au/Browse/7030c139771a4c5d91ab623eaebf0de2001ItemDetail.aspx
[08:42] <btb996> thanks, let me see.
[08:43] <cypressx3> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krjVnc0xsE0
[08:43] <cypressx3> whats the song in the background
[08:43] <cypressx3> or
[08:43] <os1ris25> so anyone got any ideas on that battery issue ?
[08:43] <os1ris25> i really would like NOT to reinstall heh
[08:43] <Myrtti> cypressx3: a bit offtopic for this channel, don't you think?
[08:43] <macjason0607> guys i want to stream a mpg from my desktop to my latptop wirelessly .. is this possible ?
[08:43] <cypressx3> can you recognize any part of the songtextß
[08:43] <ay^> os1ris25: I'm afraid not :/
[08:44] <cypressx3> yes it is.
[08:44] <os1ris25> macjason0607 yes
[08:44] <macjason0607> os1ris25, how ?
[08:44] <os1ris25> I will check back tomorrow its late
[08:44] <Myrtti> !offtopic | cypressx3
[08:44] <btb996> but there is now download link
[08:44] <trojatra> My windows only raise when I click on the title bar, not in the window itself. How can I fix this?
[08:44] <os1ris25> well there is going to be a bunch of programs
[08:44] <os1ris25> your trying to do a mdeia center type deal
[08:44] <os1ris25> or just streem a movie to another pc
[08:44] <ay^> btb996: what java-stuff do you want?
[08:45] <btb996> JDK
[08:45] <b3aUty_9irL> hey?
[08:45] <Myrtti> btb996: then install sun-java6-jdk
[08:45] <ay^> btb996: try sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[08:45] <kija> I have a problem with my brightness keys when i use them ubuntu 8.10 hangs and i have to do a hard boot.8.04 was fine.Its a Dell Inspiron 510m.Is there a way to fix this?Please help.
[08:45] <btb996> hmm, thanks a lot
[08:46] <Myrtti> b3aUty_9irL: yes?
[08:46] <os1ris25> here you got for streeming
[08:46] <os1ris25> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=661833
[08:46] <ay^> Myrtti: I think b3aUty_9irL is a bot
[08:46] <os1ris25> check it out
[08:46] <os1ris25> im out.. goodnight all
[08:46] <Myrtti> ay^: might, might not
[08:46] <ay^> Myrtti: either that or high as hell
[08:46] <EMPulse> hey
[08:47] <EMPulse> does anyone know if thunderbird works with windows live mail?
[08:47] <gluonman> I have an external hard drive that I just reformatted to ext3 using gparted. But I can't create folders in it or write information to it. What should I do?
[08:47] <ay^> gluonman: sounds like its mounted read-only for your user
[08:47] <Popescu> make[1]: *** [pgsqlDB.lo] Error 1
[08:47] <Popescu> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/gnuworld/gnuworld/db'
[08:47] <Popescu> make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
[08:47] <trojatra> My windows only raise when I click on the title bar, not in the window itself. How can I fix this?
[08:48] <gluonman> ay^, I went into nautilus as root and checked the permission on /media/disk and it said root - create and delete folders.
[08:48] <ay^> trojatra: turn off compiz and see if it works
[08:48] <ardchoille> trojatra: which window manager are you using?
[08:48] <ay^> gluonman: so can you create stuff with root?
[08:49] <trojatra> ay^, not using compiz.
[08:49] <gluonman> ay^, my other ntfs external automounts with the same permissions and I can easily read and write from/to it.
[08:49] <trojatra> ardantus, metacity.
[08:49] <EMPulse> does anyone know if thunderbird works with windows live mail?
[08:49] <ay^> gluonman: are the mount-lines exactly the same?
[08:49] <gluonman> ay^, yes.
[08:50] <cypressx3>  	 irc://irc.euirc.net/german-bash.org
[08:50] <ardchoille> EMPulse: afaik, you need to pay for a subscription for pop3 access to Windows live mail
[08:50] <ay^> gluonman: if so, the only thing I would imagine to cause this is if there is a problem with it, and you have the errors=remount-ro option set
[08:50] <gluonman> ay^, but for some reason, I can read/write from/to the external when in root, but not when the regular user.
[08:50] <cypressx3> oh sry
[08:50] <EMPulse> ardchoille, that sucks, damn microsoft
[08:51] <gluonman> ay^, maybe it's just the difference between an ntfs external and an ext3 one. Permissions set the same, but with the ntfs I can read/write without being in root.
[08:51] <ardchoille> EMPulse: fwiw, gmail works great with thunderbird :)
[08:51] <ay^> gluonman: shouldn't be
[08:51] <kija> Brightness keys hang 8.10 and i have to do a hard boot.8.04 was fine.Its a Dell Inspiron 510m.Is there a way to fix this?Please help.Any1?
[08:52] <EMPulse> ardchoille, gah, but I have my main emails as the windows live one
[08:52] <ardchoille> EMPulse: ok
[08:52] <HRshovinstuff> err can someone remind me of a website where i can post long code to link in chat
[08:52] <gluonman> ay^, well, I don't understand it, but that's how it is. I'll just reset the permissions to allow the regular user. That should work.
[08:52] <ardchoille> !paste | HRshovinstuff
[08:52] <ay^> gluonman: I still think its some mounting option gone wrong
[08:53] <gluonman> ay^, how would I fix that
[08:53] <gluonman> ?
[08:53] <ay^> gluonman: what does "mount" say about the options?
[08:53] <gluonman> ay^, what do you mean?
[08:54] <ay^> gluonman: the command mount i terminal
[08:54] <ay^> it displays all your mounted stuff
[08:54] <gluonman> ay^, alright.
[08:54] <Tyrath> when I run iwconfig it tells me signal level is -25 dBm, is this faster or slower than -28dBm ?
[08:55] <Tyrath> ie, does the - count or not?
[08:55] <trojatra> My windows only raise when I click on the title bar, not in the window itself. How can I fix this? (Using GNOME/metacity)
[08:55] <gluonman> ay^, the last line relates to the ext3 external, but I don't see any errors.
[08:55] <ay^> gluonman: what does it say?
[08:55] <Popescu> configure: error: file 'tclConfig.sh' is required for Tcl please help me
[08:55] <gluonman> ay^,  hold on. Let me type it out.
[08:56] <gluonman> ay^, /dev/sdb1 on /media/disk type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
[08:56] <byonix> hi, how do i speed up my torrents download with transmission?
[08:56] <Popescu> !tcl
[08:56] <wangchun> how can i set a manually installed package as automatically installed package?
[08:57] <Myrtti> !id | b3aUty_9irL
[08:57] <Popescu> configure: error: file 'tclConfig.sh' is required for Tcl please help me
[08:57] <wangchun> i was trying to apt-get install <package>, but it was installed before, apt-get says it has been marked as manually installed.
[08:57] <wangchun> i wanna undo this operation
[08:58] <Popescu> configure: error: file 'tclConfig.sh' is required for Tcl. please help me
[08:59] <stodan> i have working wifi connection, and also wired connection with static ip, how can i get it working with i.e. ping -I eth7 ? there is no gateway set, and if i route add, it does not change existing route but add new...
[08:59] <ay^> gluonman: I'm sorry but I have run out of ideas.. the only thing I could imagine would be to remount it with less options and see if any of those cause the error,
[08:59] <gluonman> ay^, alright. Thanks.
[08:59] <kija> wangchun: apt-get autoremove <package> then reinstall it.
[08:59] <gluonman> TokenBad, what's up?
[09:00] <TokenBad> I did upgrade from ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 and now get this msg when it loads: no resume image dong normal boot..and just loads to terminal..any idea how to fix this?
[09:00] <TokenBad> I have tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and also tried without the -phigh
[09:01] <MHz256> how do I change my hostname, temp and permanently ?
[09:04] <Popescu> configure: error: file 'tclConfig.sh' is required for Tcl. please help me
[09:05] <groken> can ubuntu be made to boot off of softraid 5 or striped? some sources say yes, some no, but no one that claims yes tells you how to make the system boot. the installer has no problem installing to md0 mounted on /
[09:07] <prc6615> test
[09:08] <prc6615> test
[09:08] <groken> tset
[09:08] <groken> seod
[09:08] <Conexion> I was wondering, how would I go about manually installing a compiler that isn't in the SPM?
[09:08] <groken> ?krow siht seod
[09:12] <whl> ?
[09:13] <pan> firefox32-3 flash no sound
[09:14] <DeviN> Need alil help!! My system has two sata harddrives, one with ubuntu other with windows, now xp took a crap on me so i had to reformat, now the problem is, grub is gone and im getting NTLDR is missing and this is on my linux drive, the windows drive is unplugged? how can i fix this
[09:14] <saint_> Hmmm
[09:15] <piroko> Anyone in here have success in getting backlight control working for the newest macbook pros?
[09:19] <groken> DeviN: booting from the ubuntu install cd will allow you to reinstall grub. anyone: but wouldn't the ntldr error only show up if he was using the wrong hard drive?
[09:19] <basy> hi, how to write scripts that enable/disable 2-monitor twinview... i'm doing this now with sudo nvidia-settings, i like to learn how to write scrips like this....
[09:23] <DeviN> groken when i was trying to fix windows and i was in recovery mode doing FIXMBR/FIXBOOT it messed grub up
[09:24] <DeviN> im guessing thats what happen
[09:24] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hey guys
[09:24] <ohletmeinnowgodd> i having some issues with firefox
[09:24] <groken> DeviN: oh, just put in the ubuntu install cd/dvd and rescue the system
[09:24] <ohletmeinnowgodd> i cant add bookmarks, when i hit ctrl + d or the pulldown menu, nothing happens
[09:24] <groken> DeviN: windows has never played nice as a boot loader
[09:25] <ExecutiveOrder> can someone help me get mozilla-mplayer working
[09:25] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hi guys, need some help with firefox,  i cant add bookmarks, when i hit ctrl + d or the pulldown menu, nothing happens
[09:26] <Jtbap> nothing mozplugger is in control of works
[09:26] <Jtbap> i cant open pdf's or save them to my hard drive
[09:26] <DeviN> groken, you aren't lying there, i was hoping there was a shortcut, now im i gotta use my last blank cd to burn this iso
[09:26] <TokenBad> ok I give up..I have tried to fix this ubuntu upgrade from 8.04 with info found on the net..but just hasn't work..
[09:27] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hi guys, need some help with firefox,  i cant add bookmarks, when i hit ctrl + d or the pulldown menu, nothing happens,anyone?
[09:27] <groken> enough ohletmeinnowgodd
[09:27] <ohletmeinnowgodd> well
[09:28] <ohletmeinnowgodd> i didnt know if anyone saw it
[09:28] <ohletmeinnowgodd> any suggestions>
[09:28] <ohletmeinnowgodd> this happens every once in a while?
[09:28] <TokenBad> there now idented
[09:28] <halycon> Guys this is really dumb but I somehow managed to get archive roller associated with .exe files and I cannot figure out how to reassociate .exe files with wine. I have tried doing some of the stuff I found on google but it seems it isnt able to remember that .exe files should open with wine
[09:28] <quibbler__> ohletmeinnowgodd-try this http://kb.mozillazine.org/Bookmarks_not_saved
[09:29] <toastedmilk> So, even after checking linuxselfhelp.com, linuxmint.com's wiki, and ubuntu's grubhowto, I'm still having grub issues with Error 22 and command-line grub issues with Error 27! Help!!
[09:29] <Jtbap> mplayer plugin just tries to connect and stops, what do i need to configure to get it to work?
[09:29] <TokenBad> anyone after doing upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 get this: no resume image doing normal boot..and it just drops to terminal asking for logon and pass?
[09:30] <ay^> halycon: I think you can change that in the settings for a file
[09:30] <EMPulse>  Hey guys, what database program would you recommended in Ubuntu?
[09:31] <ay^> halycon: right click a .exe and chose properties, then go to tab Open with and choose wine
[09:31] <toastedmilk> I need help with repairing grub.  I'm receiving Error 22 and in the command line on a live cd I'm receiving Error 27. Can someone help?
[09:31] <simi> hi,  i am very  disperate, from 2 weeks i can't use my yahoo messenger account in linux,  more info here  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6261209#post6261209   Please help, any ideea is apreciated
[09:31] <unop> EMPulse, what sort of database?
[09:32] <EMPulse> unop, I dunno, one sorta like wikipedia, articles with information
[09:32] <quibbler__> halycon-right click on a exe file choose properties - open with - and delete everthing not wine -if wine is not there add it.
[09:32] <toastedmilk> I need help with repairing grub.  I'm receiving Error 22 and in the command line on a live cd I'm receiving Error 27. Can someone help?
[09:32] <unop> EMPulse, that's not a 'database' - it's a wiki - there are quite a few around, mediawiki, blooki, twiki, wikiwiki, etc
[09:33] <aksci> anyway we can get voice conversation on yaho
[09:34] <hmw_pidgin> toastedmilk: maybe the command for selecting the root partition is wrong. when the boot loader comes up, select your ubuntu and press "e" (edit)... tell me, what the line similar to hd(1,0) says
[09:34] <EMPulse> EMPulse, yeah, but I want a database implementation of it, because the data can be more easily extracted that way.
[09:35] <ohletmeinnowgodd> lol i cant add bookmarks
[09:35] <toastedmilk> hmw_pidgin: the boot loader on the live cd?
[09:35] <ohletmeinnowgodd> and i found a really bookmark-worthy site
[09:35] <ohletmeinnowgodd> lol
[09:35] <EMPulse> unop, yeah, but I want a database implementation of it, because the data can be more easily extracted that way.
[09:35] <izmaelis> hy, guise
[09:35] <unop> EMPulse, mediawiki uses mysql (if i remember right)
[09:35] <hmw_pidgin> toastedmilk: wait a sec. your live cd wont boot either?
[09:36] <dirtyhawk> unop: correct
[09:36] <toastedmilk> hmw_pidgin: no, I'm booted on it
[09:36] <toastedmilk> hmw_pidgin: just making sure that's what you were asking
[09:36] <EMPulse> unop, oh cool, thanks, can I install mediawiki on a USB or do I need apache server for that?
[09:36] <hmw_pidgin> toastedmilk: how does the error 27 come up?
[09:36] <toastedmilk> hmw_pidgin: setup (hd0)
[09:36] <Guillem> I'm facing problems with the last update of Evolution (did it come from backports perhaps?): from time to time spends a lot of time "saving folder"
[09:36] <hmw_pidgin> toastedmilk: your drive might just not be hd0
[09:37] <toastedmilk> hmw_pidgin: I'm gonna check my BIOS
[09:37] <dirtyhawk> EMPulse: you need a webserver (e.g. Apache2) and a MySQL-Server of course
[09:37] <toastedmilk> well find /boot/grub/stage1 returns (hd0, 0)
[09:37] <hmw_pidgin> toastedmilk: the numbering might change, especially if you change your hardware or the bios boot order
[09:37] <izmaelis> anyone has exp with redirecting IPTV multicast IGMP from WAN to LAN on ubuntu router with shorewall?
[09:37] <toastedmilk> hmw_pidgin: I just deleted a partition
[09:37] <aksci> anyway we can get voice conversation on yaho
[09:38] <hmw_pidgin> toastedmilk: thats not the case, i meant. shouldnt matter. of course, only if you didnt delete your ubuntu
[09:38] <toastedmilk> hmw_pidgin: An extra partition of ubuntu that I used to re-mount my hdd
[09:38] <toastedmilk> hmw_pidgin: nope.  I'm restarting now. cross your fingers
[09:38] <korogiannos> ﻿toastedmilk: I've just joined, what was your problem? I think I had something similar with a dual boot when I changed my boot order.  is tha the problem?
[09:38] <toastedmilk> korogiannos: uh.
[09:39] <hmw_pidgin> toastedmilk: as i understood, you cant put grub to your hard drive anymore. boot from hd and try hd(0,...) instead of hd(1,...) or vice versa (error 22)
[09:40] <toastedmilk> korogiannos: It's like this-I deleted /dev/sda2(containing /dev/sda6-my second linux partition, /dev/sda5-a linux-swap, and /dev/sda7-also a linux swap. I unmounted /dev/sda2, made sure /dev/sda1 had the 'boot' flag, and restarted. I got Grub Error 22.
[09:43] <korogiannos> ﻿toastedmilk: If I'm not mistaken it's a matter of changing /boot/grub/menu.lst  to use another (hd0,1)  I played with the numbers and got everything to work fine.
[09:44] <hmw_pidgin> korogiannos: thats what i was trying to make him try
[09:45] <korogiannos> ﻿hmw_pidgin: Sorry, I joined halfway through : )
[09:45] <hmw_pidgin> korogiannos: this was not a flame *g*
[09:45] <notfreeBSD> hello, i installed nessusd, nessus and nessus-plugins, now when i try to run nessus from the command line, I'm getting gtk warning cannot open display, how do I use it form the CLI?
[09:46] <hmw_pidgin> korogiannos: i installed 7.10 and it configured my menu.lst with my drives swapped for no apparent reason.
[09:46] <SlimeyPete> you using SATA + PATA?
[09:46] <hmw_pidgin> notfreeBSD: looks like you will have to run it from a terminal within X or to pass it extra parameters to not use the GUI
[09:47] <error404notfound> with this configuration: http://pastebin.ca/1268469 I can ping all internet domains, but not anyone on my lan for which this dns server is master. any idea why?
[09:47] <lianimator> how do I share files on a local network with an XP computer from Ibex?
[09:47] <notfreeBSD> hmw_pidgin, I'm reading man but it doesnt have any params for CLI only?
[09:47] <tparcina> debmirror - should I use -m (--md5sums) or not?
[09:47] <transporter> guys did u hear about the bombay bombings
[09:47] <hmw_pidgin> notfreeBSD: i only saw a windows version once. are you sure, it is capable of running without graphics?
[09:47] <SlimeyPete> there was (is?) a bug in the grub setup script which caused it to swap the drive IDs when using SATA and PATA in the same system. I suffered from it for two or three iterations of Ubuntu IIRC.
[09:48] <tparcina> in debmirror man page they say it's paranoid and slow, but I allways check MD5 sum, so why not to do it on local mirror?
[09:48] <notfreeBSD> hmw_pidgin, absolutely, I have it set up by somebody else on another machine
[09:48] <hmw_pidgin> SlimeyPete: was that a question?
[09:48] <SlimeyPete> hmw_pidgin: it was more a comment on "i installed 7.10 and it configured my menu.lst with my drives swapped for no apparent reason.
[09:48] <SlimeyPete> "
[09:48] <hmw_pidgin> notfreeBSD: did it work before? does it need to be compiled with certain switches? sorry, thats all i can tell you for now.
[09:49] <hmw_pidgin> SlimeyPete: ah - thanks
[09:49] <C0p3rn1c> am I the only one who is having problems with firefox 3? My tabs somtimes don't work well
[09:50] <tparcina> debmirror - is anyone using this program?
[09:50] <hmw_pidgin> C0p3rn1c: change your nick to something easier to type, if you want a beep, when someone answers you *g*. My firefox 3 is working properly. did you install addons?
[09:51] <Gumby> Hi all.  Ive just updated to 8.10 from 8.04 and I am trying to install mythtv-common but am getting an error of dpkg: error processing mythtv-common (--configure):  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[09:51] <Gumby> anyone know how to fix this?  Its not a package conflict
[09:51] <pc05> spenza_or@yahoo.co.id
[09:52] <C0p3rn1c> hmw_pidgin: No I did not, I did however start to use compiz-fusion again, but compiz-benchmark says I have 184 fps, so that shouldn't be a problem in the performance part
[09:52] <hmw_pidgin> ﻿C0p3rn1c: describe the problem with a little more detail, pls
[09:53] <notfreeBSD> hmw_pidgin, this is new installation, but I have what I want on another machine
[09:53] <robf> I mounted an ntfs share earlier,   and now trying to access the mount point results in this "ls: cannot open directory .: Transport endpoint is not connected"
[09:53] <hmw_pidgin> Gumby: maybe complete de- and reinstall might do it
[09:53] <robf> how can I rectify this as I cannot umount it nor remount it
[09:53] <C0p3rn1c> hmw_pidgin: well when I'm surfing the web, I switch between tabs regualary but now when I click on an other tab, it just doesnt switch untill I click a second time
[09:54] <tech0007> robf: even as root?
[09:54] <robf> tech0007: yep
[09:54] <Gumby> hmw_pidgin: already done.  I think I might have found something in launchpad
[09:54] <hmw_pidgin> robf: there is some "force" switch to mount. RTFM. or reboot
[09:54] <robf> hmw_pidgin: remounting it with --force does not work
[09:54] <robf> tried already
[09:54] <error404notfound> with this configuration: http://pastebin.ca/1268469 I can ping all internet domains, but not anyone on my lan for which this dns server is master. any idea why?
[09:54] <hmw_pidgin> robf: unmounting also?
[09:55] <robf> yep
[09:55] <Copernic> hmw_pidgin: I renamed my nick, but normally you can just type C0<tab> to get my nick you know :)
[09:55] <hmw_pidgin> Copernic: thanks. it was just, that i had to try different combos, until i found your name with tab
[09:55] <Gumby> hmw_pidgin: it wouldnt install because the mythtv user already existed.  Now thats a pretty poorly written install script if you ask me
[09:55] <tech0007> robf: is that local or over the netwrk?
[09:55] <hmw_pidgin> Gumby: might be. sorry.
[09:55] <robf> hmw_pidgin:  though oddly when using -f ,   the resulting error instead of two umount: /home/robf/mnt: device is busy errors,  one has umount2 in place...which is just strange but
[09:55] <robf> tech0007: local
[09:56] <hmw_pidgin> Copernic: i am puzzled. did you google for the symptoms already?
[09:56] <tech0007> robf: maybe its being used by a process
[09:56] <robf> hrm
[09:56] <jamil_13579> I can't run the apt-get Command. Terminal Says no such Command
[09:56] <robf> but I don't know how.   as i can't even use it
[09:56] <Copernic> hmw_pidgin: not yet, good idea, I will do it now
[09:57] <VistaUser> hey
[09:57] <VistaUser> anyone there
[09:57] <hmw_pidgin> robf: i dont know umount2?  - maybe some shell is in this dir or a window showing its (deprecated) contents or there is really a
[09:57] <tech0007> robf: logout / login or reboot
[09:57] <primoz> hello there
[09:57] <robf> well yeah,  I didn't really want to do that.   While that will of course fix the issue,   the problem and its cause still is there which is more of my concern
[09:57] <primoz> i am having problems with sound with my capture tv card
[09:57] <hmw_pidgin> robf: file opened, or a lock is left over by accident. a reboot should fix it, but thats not a pretty solution. i had a similar problem once
[09:57] <primoz> video works just fine, but there is no sound
[09:58] <primoz> could someone help me please
[09:58] <robf> hmw_pidgin: exactly,  I don't like messy solutions
[09:58] <robf> isn't there a command to show current flocks?
[09:58] <hmw_pidgin> robf: find out, how you can look which process is locking the dir. or kill what looks like it might be accessing
[09:58] <jamil_13579> any help ?
[09:59] <maco> how do i make the text bigger in midori?
[09:59] <hmw_pidgin> jamil_13579: tell me the output of "which apt-get"
[10:00] <robf> hmw_pidgin:  it looks to be something wonky with fuse though
[10:00] <sug1> whats the command for sleep?  as in wait?  EX: echo fun time && wait 260 && echo end
[10:00] <robf> hmw_pidgin: is there a list of the most recently updated files
[10:00] <jamil_13579>  sudo apt-get install blender
[10:00] <jamil_13579> sudo: apt-get: command not found
[10:00] <maco> sug1: um, it's sleep
[10:00] <robf> cos thinking back I had it mounted and then later update notifier had a ton of things to update
[10:00] <Copernic> hmw_pidgin: now that I think about it, I think it's a compiz-fusion problem, because it looks more like a redrawing issue(I also experience this sometimes in the file explorer)
[10:00] <hmw_pidgin> sug1: sleep.
[10:01] <robf> and I'm wondering if it updated something that wasn't directly in use thus in memory but is called when I try to access it,  so it may have gotten versions all jacked up
[10:01] <sug1> hmw_pidgin:  maco: it's measured in seconds right?
[10:01] <tech0007> jamil_13579: try 'sudo /usr/bin/apt-get'
[10:01] <hmw_pidgin> Copernic: verify it by turning off compiz. install "fusion-icon" for convenient switching
[10:01] <Copernic> hmw_pidgin: or it's just my new nvidia beta drivers
[10:01] <ziroday> maco: AFAIK you can't. The people in #midori are likely to know though :)
[10:01] <robf> so whatever is currently running is trying to call something no longer there.
[10:01] <jamil_13579> jamil@jamil-desktop:~$ sudo /usr/bin/apt-get
[10:01] <jamil_13579> sudo: /usr/bin/apt-get: command not found
[10:01] <hmw_pidgin> sug1: yes. afair you may define floating point values, too
[10:01] <robf> jamil_13579: what did you do O.o
[10:02] <Copernic> hmw_pidgin: I'm using the beta drivers because I can't the stable ones to work anymore :(
[10:02] <robf> can you not just run it sans the path there?
[10:02] <tech0007> jamil_13579: whats the output of 'which apt-get'?
[10:02] <sug1> hmw_pidgin: i am sorry, but i don't undesrstand what you mean.
[10:02] <robf> jamil_13579: locate apt-get
[10:02] <hmw_pidgin> sug1: you might give it a half second with: sleep 0.5
[10:02] <pan> anyone that can help me get sound to work for firefox32 64 bit?
[10:03] <pan> for flash?
[10:03] <jamil_13579> jamil@jamil-desktop:~$ which apt-get
[10:03] <jamil_13579> jamil@jamil-desktop:~$
[10:03] <tech0007> jamil_13579: 'locate apt-get'
[10:03] <jamil_13579> jamil@jamil-desktop:~$ locate apt-get
[10:03] <jamil_13579> jamil@jamil-desktop:~$
[10:03] <dvd^bitbucket> jamil.. how gay is that. :D
[10:03] <robf> hmw_pidgin:  here's something crazy
[10:04] <sug1> hmw_pidgin: nice. so if wanted to wait 2 mins and 30 secs. i could just do 2.30??
[10:04] <hmw_pidgin> tech0007: jamil_13579: which apt-get told us, that it seems not to be there
[10:04] <robf> ls of the directory where that mnt point is
[10:04] <robf> d????????? ? ?    ?       ?                ? mnt
[10:04] <maco> ziroday: ok thanks
[10:04] <robf> O.o wtf is this
[10:04] <jamil_13579> I think the same
[10:04] <HalphaZ> hello
[10:04] <tech0007> hmw_pidgin: which is impossible in a standard ubuntu install
[10:04] <ziroday> jamil_13579: apt-get just doesn't remove itself. You must have run or done something to do that yourself. The easiest way is to reinstall
[10:04] <HalphaZ> I need help, please
[10:04] <ziroday> maco: sorry couldn't help you out more
[10:04] <jamil_13579> How can I reinstall
[10:04] <hmw_pidgin> sug1: that would be 20 1/3 seconds. you have to use 20*60+30=sleep 1230
[10:04] <maco> ziroday: i didnt know there was a channel
[10:04] <HalphaZ> My audio doesn't work
[10:05] <robf> HalphaZ: why not?
[10:05] <tech0007> !install | jamil_13579
[10:05] <robf> HalphaZ: what're you using
[10:05] <ziroday> maco: by the way if its greyed out it means that it still has to be implemented (or thats what they told me last time)
[10:05] <hmw_pidgin> tech0007: jamil_13579 techs' question is interesting. did you reboot your machine already, jamil?
[10:05] <robf> tech0007:  having to reinstall the system is a bit overkill ja?
[10:05] <HalphaZ> It worked till I disinstalled a packet: alsa-drivcer-linuxant
[10:05] <jamil_13579> not yet
[10:05] <HalphaZ> I used it in hardy to make the 56k modem work
[10:05] <hmw_pidgin> jamil_13579: try now.
[10:05] <robf> hmw_pidgin: did ya see the ls -l of mnt?
[10:06] <HalphaZ> but with intrepid the modem doesn't work and I disinstalled the packet
[10:06] <HalphaZ> now audio doesn0t work and the packet doesn't install
[10:06] <ziroday> maco: but the default ubuntu version is likely to be out of date, you might end up having to compile a newer or svn version
[10:06] <hmw_pidgin> robf: no?
[10:06] <robf> d????????? ? ?    ?       ?                ? mnt
[10:06] <robf> thats what it looks like
[10:06] <HalphaZ> :,(
[10:06] <robf> I've NEVER seen something like that
[10:06] <hmw_pidgin> robf: i see only question marks
[10:06] <robf> HalphaZ: package not packet
[10:06] <robf> hmw_pidgin: exactly
[10:06] <robf> thats how itl ooks
[10:06] <FloodBot3> robf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:06] <hmw_pidgin> robf: wow
[10:06] <HalphaZ> *package (sorry for my poor english :,()
[10:07] <robf> HalphaZ: no worries may just make for confusion in an answer
[10:07] <HalphaZ> ok :-)
[10:07] <hmw_pidgin> robf: either something in the filesystem broken or another glitch. i would reboot now. still not the most pretty solution
[10:07] <robf> hmw_pidgin: yeh :(
[10:08] <hmw_pidgin> robf: remember not to flood - lol
[10:08] <nikin> hy .. how can i get the plain old allcontaining xorg.conf back? i want to make some resolution settings
[10:08] <robf> hmw_pidgin:  I know... heh
[10:08] <hmw_pidgin> floodbot a bit cranky today, eh?
[10:08] <sug1> hmw_pidgin: is there a way to type something on my computer.  EX: I want my command to sleep for 5 seconds and type in the word hi.  not in the command , btu as  if i was sitting there typing it in.
[10:08] <HalphaZ> probably I need install a package... but I don't know what package
[10:08] <robf> hmw_pidgin: nah I just hit enter a bit too often ....
[10:09] <ziroday> sug1: which program would you want it typed in?
[10:09] <robf> HalphaZ: lspci  and check what model of sound card you use,  then google for the drivers it uses,  then search for that package
[10:09] <ReXio> hi, guys, I need help with a modem router, gateway, I need to make it work on ubuntu with usb; any idea where to get a working driver?
[10:09] <Copernic> Ubuntu tweak: performance management: why are the peformance settings default on 85% and not 100% when I'm not using my battery?
[10:09] <hmw_pidgin> sug1: you want the word "hi" output after 5 secs delay?
[10:09] <sug1> ziroday: lol, my video game/wine
[10:09] <robf> Copernic: to be more green!
[10:09] <robf> rebooting...
[10:10] <sug1> hmw_pidgin: yes within wine application
[10:10] <HalphaZ> ok... I'm trying
[10:10] <sug1> ziroday: hmw_pidgin: i am using a bash/script file
[10:10] <Copernic> robf: damn tree huggers ! :p
[10:10] <hmw_pidgin> sug1: "sleep 5 && echo "hi"
[10:10] <hmw_pidgin> sug1: without the first "
[10:11] <nikin> how can i get the plain old xorg,conf and the reconfigure back?
[10:11] <daipv> chiakhoa_729@yahoo.com
[10:11] <daipv> hi,every body
[10:11] <hmw_pidgin> sug1: in a script file you just write sleep 1 (NEW LINE) echo "hi"
[10:12] <Mischiefbec> Hi there... anyone got any idea about using wine?
[10:12] <dirtyhawk> ^/quit
[10:12] <sug1> hmw_pidgin: it didn't worked. it didn't input it into my wine.  but it still came up in the terminal
[10:12] <hmw_pidgin> !ask | Mischiefbec
[10:12] <hmw_pidgin> sug1: ah, you want a text virtually entered as if the user typed it?
[10:13] <sug1> hmw_pidgin: yes.  oops, sorry i thought i made that clear o.0
[10:13] <Mischiefbec> Right... I'm trying to install microsoft office on wine and when it nears the end of installation each time it comes back with an error... all the progams are listed but non will open
[10:13] <nikin> Mischiefbec: put it in to a pan.. heat it up add some spices orange and lemon peal.. and thats tasty :D for anything else winehq contains per program descriptions
[10:13] <hmw_pidgin> sug1: i cant tell you how this is done. sry.
[10:13] <sug1> hmw_pidgin: oh darn.  hahahh thansk for the help though. :D
[10:13] <core7_> chea....
[10:13] <HalphaZ> lspci | grep -i audio
[10:13] <HalphaZ> 00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[10:13] <hmw_pidgin> Mischiefbec: which wine version, which ubuntu?
[10:14] <HalphaZ> what package should I install?
[10:14] <sug1> hmw_pidgin: do you know how I may research somethign like this though?
[10:14] <Mischiefbec> wine 1.1.9 and ubuntu 8.10
[10:16] <hmw_pidgin> sug1: not really... maybe (some or all of the) keywords: redirect input from file to wine appliction, send message to wine, signal to wine, etc
[10:16] <Neaai> I was wondering is there overhead for the ethernet interface when it works in promiscuous mode when compared to normal mode?
[10:16] <VistaUser> how i get wine?
[10:17] <hmw_pidgin> VistaUser: sudo apt-get install wine
[10:17] <VistaUser> ty
[10:17] <sug1> hmw_pidgin: thanks :D
[10:18] <Mischiefbec> wine 1.1.9 and ubuntu 8.10
[10:20] <helloworld> anyone know if the the php gtk package is available on intrepid?
[10:20] <mgolisch> helloworld: packages.ubuntu.com ?
[10:20] <jeancalvin> how can i tell whether my iPod connected to my ubuntu box is FAT or NFS format?
[10:21] <mgolisch> it cant have nfs format
[10:21] <mgolisch> nfs is a networkfilesystem
[10:21] <helloworld> its not there mgolisch.   bit surprising really.. php gtk has been around for ages.
[10:21] <jeancalvin> mgolisch: i see. does this mean my ipod is FAT?
[10:22] <jeancalvin> mgolisch: is there a way to confirm?
[10:22] <jeancalvin> mgolisch:  I check in Nautilus, and it says that the iPod is of "msdos" Filesystem type.
[10:22] <korogiannos> ﻿mgolisch: did you format it with windows or mac when you 1st got it?
[10:22] <jeancalvin> korogiannos: you talking to me?
[10:22] <Demios1> I'm new to ubuntu, right now I have a problem getting a sound blaster to work, I can get sound off the on-board sound card but not the PCI one, they both seem to be installed but also under the system->administration->sound I can get test sounds only from the on-board
[10:23] <jeancalvin> korogiannos: if so, my ipod has not touched a mac.
[10:23] <korogiannos> FAT then
[10:23] <jeancalvin> korogiannos: is there a way to check via ubuntu/terminal?
[10:23] <ziroday> Neaai: how can a ethernet interface have a promiscuous mode? It just connects the the network its plugged into
[10:23] <jeancalvin> korogiannos: and if an ipod has touched a mac, then it's NFS? but mgolisch says no iPod can be NFS.
[10:24] <ziroday> jeancalvin: pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[10:24] <korogiannos> ﻿jeancalvin: not NFS, but... sec, let me google
[10:24] <tech0007> jeancalvin: try 'sudo fdisk -l'
[10:24] <Neaai> ziroday: It is put into promiscuous mode when I run software like iptraf and etherape
[10:24] <korogiannos> ﻿jeancalvin:HFS
[10:24] <ziroday> Neaai: ah right, sorry was being thick. I imagine that the overhead would be very small
[10:25] <jeancalvin> tech0007: ziroday http://pastebin.com/m792b6a5d
[10:25] <ziroday> jeancalvin: I presume your ipod is 30 GB?
[10:25] <jeancalvin> the reason why i'm trying to figure out my iPod's format is because  my iPod is SO SO slow when I use a / any program to access it.
[10:25] <jeancalvin> ziroday: yes my ipod is 30 GB.
[10:25] <ziroday> jeancalvin: then that is fat32
[10:25] <korogiannos> ﻿jeancalvin: it's FAT
[10:25] <tech0007> jeancalvin: its FAT32
[10:26] <korogiannos> FAT32* ; p
[10:26] <ardchoille> How do folks make flash movies of their desktop like I see on youtube?
[10:26] <jeancalvin> korogiannos: tech ziroday thank you. Thank yOu, and thank yoU.
[10:26] <Neaai> ziroday: so I guess that overhead is neglectable and won't matter for the interface's performance.
[10:26] <jeancalvin> is there a way to find out why my iPod is slow when I try to do anything with it with a program such as gtkpod?
[10:26] <ziroday> Neaai: that would be my opinion
[10:27] <jeancalvin> any little click i do in gtkpod makes my CPU go 100% usage.
[10:27] <ziroday> ardchoille: you can use recordmydesktop and upload it to youtube.
[10:27] <ziroday> !screencast > ardchoille
[10:27] <ardchoille> ziroday: Ah, thank you :)
[10:28] <ArgSTOPRefUpdate> Could I get a redirect to the proper location to get an answer to this problem?  OpenOffice 2.4.1 calc: I have formulas that I -always- want to point at a specific cell, REGUARDLESS of cutting/pasting involving said cell.  Even with $C$R it STILL tracks the origional cell so the formulas do not function as desired.
[10:28] <dddfhree> i have a wintv usb tv-card, but i cant get it work. lsusb recognizes it, but tvtime says no signal. any idea
[10:30] <LoveGuru> I Just want to start my "grub" i boot with ubuntu-server.iso im at the prompt now. there is Just 5 options " Install Ubuntu Server " Check Cd For defects" Test memory " boot from first harddisk " rescue a broken system" what do i doo
[10:31] <ziroday> LoveGuru: start or reinstall grub?
[10:31] <robf_> hmw_pidgin: well I'm still wondering wtf happened
[10:31] <ArgSTOPRefUpdate> dddfhree: Basic start http://www.google.com/search?q=wintv+usb+linux+troubleshooting  No idea where to go as I've -never- gotten a USB tuner to work period.
[10:32] <LoveGuru> ziroday: sorry for my bad.. i want to start "gparted" i want to resize my partition
[10:32] <robf_> hmw_pidgin: do you thnk it may be that I had ntfs partition mounted,   then updated,  and perhaps something normally called by ntfs_3g or fuse was changed to a conflicting version that was not preloaded in memory by it's callers?
[10:32] <ArgSTOPRefUpdate> LoveGuru: Are you trying to install Ubuntu for the first time?  If you already went through the installer...  OK wait; can you describe what's on the hard drive right now, and what you want to do to it?
[10:33] <robf_> I see this as a possible happening as the other googled reasons behind it seem to be something crashing,  and me updating a load of stuff was the only difference today than other times and never befor has it crashed
[10:33] <hmw_pidgin> robf: tbh, i have no clue, but that sounds reasonable. it looks like someone forgot to delete a lock file.
[10:33] <robf_> hmw_pidgin:  yeah except a lock doesn't account for the enpoint error
[10:33] <LoveGuru> ArgSTOPRefUpdate: well i do have ubuntu-server in that partition.. so how i made partition small.. now i want to resize that partition just.
[10:33] <busfahrer> My sound in Ubuntu 8.10 (on a ThinkPad R61) mysteriously stopped working. Another distribution I have installed in parallel still has sound, I'm thinking that pulse might be the problem since the other distribution doesn't use it. Any ideas?
[10:34] <hmw_pidgin> robf_: some stuff restarted with another context?
[10:34] <robf_> I can see it there occurring had it simply been that I couldnt umount it,  but that wasn't the only problem
[10:34] <robf_> yeh
[10:34] <robf_> maybe on update some of the parts restarted and lost there place
[10:34] <robf_> and then everything was just junked up from then on
[10:35] <jamil_13579> Is there a way of restoring ubuntu to some point back in time ? as in windows
[10:36] <a1len> Would anyone happen to know a good place to get psx iso's for Ubuntu?
[10:36] <Demios1> I'm new to ubuntu, right now I have a problem getting a sound blaster to work, I can get sound off the on-board sound card but not the PCI one, they both seem to be installed but also under the system->administration->sound I can get test sounds only from the on-board.. why isn't the sound blaster giving off sound?
[10:37] <EMPulse> hey
[10:37] <EMPulse> Does anyone know if there's a good tutoring on the internet that tells you how to install TOR?
[10:38] <LoveGuru> what is that?
[10:38] <Neaai> a1len: a psx iso remains a psx iso be it for ubuntu or anything else. I'd expect them to work regardless of platform. But getting those iso's is most probably illegal
[10:38] <SmokeyD> hey people. Is there an applet for gnome which allows me to quickly set an alarm on my desktop? Just to remember me "Don't forget lunch!" and stuff like that
[10:38] <TecR0c> hello, i have having troubles pinging my vista laptop from my linux desktop ?
[10:38] <SmokeyD> not a full featured calendar thingy, just a quick alarm
[10:38] <Jerusalem420>  how can I determine my  installation path of Mozilla
[10:39] <Jerusalem420> mozilla firefox
[10:39] <thefawk> your default calendar has that option smokeyd
[10:39] <SmokeyD> TecR0c: do you have windows firewall enabled?
[10:39] <Jerusalem420> i'm upgrading my flash plater
[10:39] <ArgSTOPRefUpdate> LoveGuru: I can't quite figure out what you were trying to say in your answer.
[10:39] <SmokeyD> Jerusalem420: all packages are installed in /usr
[10:39] <thefawk> jerusalem download firefox, and install it wherever you want it
[10:39] <SmokeyD> libraries in /usr/lib binaries in /usr/bin
[10:39] <Jerusalem420>  how can I determine my  installation path of Mozilla firefox? can i assume /usr/lib/mozilla
[10:39] <LoveGuru> ArgSTOPRefUpdate: i do have ubuntu server in that partition i just want to resize that partition . that its.
[10:40] <TecR0c> SmokeyD: yes i do
[10:40] <thefawk> firefox comes installed at /usr/lib/firefox/
[10:40] <TecR0c> but other devices on my network can also ping my vista box
[10:40] <TecR0c> part from linux
[10:40] <rofrol> hello
[10:40] <Neaai> LoveGuru: you could boot with the ubuntu CD in live mode and use gparted from there.
[10:40] <huwenfeng> how can i stop firefox automatically load images?
[10:41] <rofrol> my usb mouse works after replug
[10:41] <icqnumber> Jerusalem420, type in gnome-terminal 'which firefox'
[10:41] <rofrol> how to start it automatically
[10:41] <rofrol> ?
[10:41] <SmokeyD> TecR0c: that could be the problem. Windows firewall could block the pings
[10:41] <LoveGuru> Neaai: how do i do?i didn't see any option there.. i just have 5 options.
[10:41] <thefawk> enable the usb support on your motherboard bios rofrol
[10:41] <huwenfeng> yes ,i hate the images , i just want to watch news, but there are too many images!
[10:41] <TecR0c> SmokeyD: Ok, give me one sec and will test it again.
[10:41] <SmokeyD> Jerusalem420: but with the command "dpkg -L firefox" or "dpkg -L firefox-3.0" you can see all installed files for that package
[10:41] <LoveGuru> Neaai: " Install Ubuntu Server " Check Cd For defects" Test memory " boot from first harddisk " rescue a broken system"  its Live Ubuntu-server iso
[10:41] <huwenfeng> i'd like to block all of them!
[10:42] <thefawk> use links huwenfeng, text-only browser
[10:42] <rofrol> thefawk, i have legacy peripherials > usb controller on
[10:42] <rofrol> but usb emulation off
[10:42] <Jerusalem420> thanks guys
[10:42] <e-frame> huwenfeng: adblock and flashblock
[10:42] <Neaai> LoveGuru: You basically grab the ubuntu cd and boot the machine with it. Ah server... not sure about that. But, you can save some time by getting the gparted livecd and do what you require with it. hold on...
[10:42] <DeviN> ok new problem, im trying to boot into ubuntu and im getting this. 'Gave up waiting for root device. commoc problems:  -boot args(cat /procs/cmdline) - check rootdelay -check root=  missing modules im in this busybox terminal and im pretty lost
[10:43] <SmokeyD> thefawk: yeah I can set appointments in the calendar. But that would require opening evolution and settings appointments in it
[10:43] <e-frame> glad to have my ubuntu cds delivered today
[10:43] <karbo> Hi, anyone know of a working SVN integration for Nautilus? I would love to have something like what's demonsrated in this YT video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vVGbYB9pb0
[10:43] <SmokeyD> I just want an applet that I can say "display a popup with some text in an hour" or something
[10:43] <VistaUser> how i use emerald?
[10:43] <SmokeyD> not use the whole calendar with appointments and stuff
[10:44] <Neaai> LoveGuru: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115843&package_id=271779
[10:44] <VistaUser> anyone?
[10:44] <Neaai> LoveGuru: that's a 98M .iso
[10:44] <huwenfeng> OK, thank you , the image's gone , but i the flash's still there, i did not found a option i can select to block flashes,  how can i do that then?
[10:45] <Neaai> LoveGuru: it will allow you to boot with it and use gparted for what you want to resize or any other partition manipulation.
[10:45] <webas> hello..anyone can help me in this channel? although i have question about kubuntu :( and in that channel there are no active people
[10:45] <webas> im on kde 4.0 and i got very annoying problem...  ||| all icons of programs dissapeared in kmenu bottom line.. http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4874/nu2922sa7.jpg
[10:45] <shbika123_> huwenfeng: try NoScript
[10:45] <thefawk> sure webas
[10:46] <TecR0c> SmokeyD: Ok, eveything seems to be fine now Thanks.
[10:46] <SmokeyD> no problem
[10:46] <gubuntu> hi 2 all can anybody help me how to create meetings appointments events and tasks using UBuntu????
[10:46] <Neaai> webas: does that happen as well when you login as another user ?
[10:46] <SmokeyD> the thing is, enable windows firewall and try to test the settings untill you can reach it from your ubuntu machine
[10:47] <SmokeyD> having the firewall enabled in windows is a good idea
[10:47] <Skaag> I've just upgraded my Ubuntu Server from Gutsy to Intrepid, and I have a problem with Locales
[10:47] <webas> yesterday i closed firefox from bottom..and all program icons dissapeared..
[10:47] <webas> there are no other users here to log in
[10:47] <VistaUser> how do i use wine??
[10:47] <Skaag> whenever I try to dpkg-reconfigure locales, it gets stuck. A ps shows that there's a defunct gzip operation hanging.
[10:47] <bullgard4> What does 'uf_show' stand for in /usr/local/src/gajim-011.4/src/common/helpers.py's line "uf_show = _('Free for Chat')"?
[10:47] <Neaai> webas: can't you add another right away and try ?
[10:48] <webas> im not sure i know how to create one :D
[10:48] <Garcon_> Hello. I need to add a range of IPs on a ubuntu server. On centos this was easy (http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/RangeOfIpsOnEthx), but how do i do it on ubuntu?
[10:49] <Neaai> webas: <ctrl>+<alt>+<f1> will give you a text login. Login as your normal user, then issue:  sudo adduser anotherusernamehere     Then logout from that text login and return to graphical again with <alt>+<f7> and try with the new user.
[10:50] <VistaUser> how do i use wine?
[10:50] <Garcon_> put it in a glass, drink it ^^
[10:51] <huwenfeng> shbika123_: OK, really thank you
[10:51] <ArgSTOPRefUpdate> LoveGuru: Very afk at the moment; So, you want to just resize a partition that has ubuntu server on it?  Do you know what filesystem it uses?  Do you know if you used GRUB or LILO for your boot loader?
[10:52] <shbika123_> huwenfeng : ur welcome
[10:52] <huwenfeng> i block the flash , and the images ,  now it's much better,  and my cpu usage is lower now
[10:52] <huwenfeng> IRC is really very good
[10:52] <webas> where to create new user ? :( :)
[10:52] <dns53> VistaUser first install it, then open a terminal and type wine application.exe, you may want to get wine doors or other gui wrapper if you are having problems
[10:53] <VistaUser> which do u recommend
[10:53] <busfahrer> My sound in Ubuntu 8.10 (on a ThinkPad R61) mysteriously stopped working. Another distribution I have installed in parallel still has sound, I'm thinking that pulse might be the problem since the other distribution doesn't use it. Any ideas?
[10:53] <SmokeyD> webas: System->Administration->Users and groups
[10:54] <VistaUser> dns53 which do u recommend
[10:54] <dns53> VistaUser http://www.wine-doors.org/wordpress/
[10:54] <Neaai> webas: or issue in the command line:   sudo adduser newusername
[10:54] <VistaUser> ok
[10:54] <saftsack> hi, my network card stops working after some network traffic passed (intrepedid) server version. hardware is ok, tried different network cards.
[10:55] <arquebus> is there a way to get emacs to run inside the console like vim does?
[10:55] <saftsack> no error in syslog or dmesg
[10:55] <VistaUser> dns53 so wine is broken
[10:55] <dns53> arquebus i believe bash and other shells have an emacs hot key mode
[10:56] <arquebus> dns53: I dont understand how emacs hotkeys would function in an interpreter, emacs is an editor
[10:56] <dns53> VistaUser wine works great depending on the application you are running have a look at http://appdb.winehq.org/
[10:57] <VistaUser> ok
[10:57] <dns53> arquebus the terminal is capturing keyboard input
[10:57] <arquebus> dns53: interesting, never heard of that
[10:58] <arquebus> emacs does run quite nice when I go into an f4-f6 console mode
[10:58] <dns53> arquebus bash -o emacs (or vi )
[10:59] <VistaUser> how do i change my theme and stuff
[10:59] <VistaUser> its getting really boring
[10:59] <dns53> VistaUser system > prefferences > apperance
[11:00] <VistaUser> ty
[11:00] <arquebus> dns53: doesnt work
[11:00] <Garcon_> VistaUser, learn to use your brain
[11:00] <dns53> Garcon_ please play nice, there is no stupid question
[11:00] <VistaUser> lol
[11:00] <fenerli7> how can i switch windows (in gnome) when I am in an OpenGL game window (unreal tournament 2004 in this case) - alt-tab and ctrl-alt-d do not work
[11:01] <VistaUser> if u havent notice my name and the huge hint it gives
[11:01] <Garcon_> dns53, i'd argue.. some of the questions seem really retarded.. but then again
[11:01] <busfahrer> Excuse me, my sound in Ubuntu 8.10 (on a ThinkPad R61) mysteriously stopped working. Another distribution I have installed in parallel still has sound, I'm thinking that pulse might be the problem since the other distribution doesn't use it. Any ideas?
[11:01] <arquebus> VistaUser-download some gnome themes, there are really good ones out there if you search on the internet
[11:02] <gubuntu> yahoomail.com
[11:02] <shbika123_> VistaUser: www.gnome-look.org
[11:02] <VistaUser> ty
[11:02] <[Sarai]> I have a question about booting from a cd
[11:02] <ardchoille> !themes
[11:02] <[Sarai]> Do I just ask my question?
[11:02] <dns53> art.gnome.org is also good
[11:02] <dns53> !ask
[11:02] <Myrtti> [Sarai]: you just did
[11:02] <VistaUser> omh
[11:02] <sug1> ﻿i want the script file to pretend like it's typing.  i hope, if this works. I can have the script file wait for a short period and then i alt tab to my wine application (where i want the keys to be input into) and then have the script file type out "hi" or somethign and then I will see it within wine.
[11:02] <[Sarai]> Funny
[11:03] <Demios1> I'm new to ubuntu, right now I have a problem getting a sound blaster to work, I can get sound off the on-board sound card but not the PCI one, they both seem to be installed but also under the system->administration->sound I can get test sounds only from the on-board.. why isn't the sound blaster giving off sound?
[11:04] <[Sarai]> Okay, so I am trying out ubuntu. I want to boot it from the cd for a while to see if I like it. However, I assume the boot disk doesn't include much in the way of software. Can I download software and use it (i.e. openoffice) even though the os isn't installed on my harddrive?
[11:04] <dns53> sug1 look for windows applications that do that and see if they work, winedoors uses one of them during installing windows apps
[11:05] <david> hola
[11:05] <Guest31514> ques esto??
[11:05] <dns53> [Sarai] yes, you can install it to memory, it is wiped when you restart your computer without touching anything
[11:05] <Guest31514> nick david
[11:05] <[Sarai]> so I could isntall programs but I'd have to install them every time I restart my computer?
[11:05] <Guest31514> como cambio mi nick
[11:06] <huwenfeng> i got one more question,  is there any good application that i can listen to online radios in ubuntu?
[11:06] <Mutu> Hi, i have trouble with Hibernate/Suspend features on ubuntu on my IBM laptop. Can anyone help?Everything freezes when i try to resume
[11:06] <susquin7> yes there are. I listen with Tunapie or Streamtuner
[11:06] <dns53> [Sarai] yes if you are using the live cd, it is not touching the hard drive, instead it is creating a ram drive
[11:06] <Guest31514> ??
[11:06] <ardchoille> !es | Guest31514
[11:06] <sug1> dns53: i have not use winedoors before. what application does it use?  But really, my main goal for this is to use a script that would input it to the keyboard. so no matter what was up at the time it would type it int here. (IE: pidgin or openoffice.)
[11:06] <huwenfeng> susquin7: Tunapie and Streamtuner
[11:06] <huwenfeng> OK, i will try them
[11:07] <[Sarai]> And I would just install them like normal?
[11:07] <reefpolice> Video artifacts, 8.10 on older Dell Dimension 2100 with Intel 810 chipset?
[11:07] <dns53> sug1 i can't remember now, it is not installed on my current computer
[11:07] <dns53> [Sarai] yes, it is really useful sometimes
[11:08] <webas> is there a guy who remembers my problem? then i changed user..there icons in kmenu bottom line appears and its fine..only then im on my default user its all messed up..how to fix it?
[11:08] <VistaUser> what do i use to open these themes
[11:08] <[Sarai]> yes, it would be but I could also see why it could be somewhat frustrating. Well, hopefully i'll know right away if i like it enough to dual boot
[11:08] <huwenfeng> now i encounter a big problem, i delete all file in /var/cache/apt/archives,  then when i run aptitude update, it says like this: E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing.
[11:08] <huwenfeng> what can i do now?
[11:08] <ardchoille> !changethemes | VistaUser
[11:09] <harvey> Hi, Can anyone help or point me in the right direction. I recently upgraded to 8.10 and now VLC and movie player doesnt work. When I play movies it clicks every 3 or 4 secs, what can I do, it also wont play dvd.....?
[11:09] <dns53> webas your settings are in the hidden directories (they start with a . ) you could delete these hidden directories and files
[11:09] <Bog> what does this mean? * Reconfiguring network interfaces...SIOCDELRT: No such process
[11:09] <VistaUser> ty
[11:09] <ArgSTOPRefUpdate> Neaai: Nice link.  You might as well have linked the systemrecoverycd but... yeah
[11:09] <sug1> dns53: have you used any microsoft window's application that did those functions?
[11:09] <narendra_> I want to use vlock for gnome terminal. I open 2/3 terminal at a time and vlock -a from any one terminal.
[11:09] <narendra_> But it gives error "vlock: this terminal is not a virtual console".Can anyone please help me on this
[11:09] <webas> how to enable a view to see such folders..or to delete? only via terminal?
[11:09] <ardchoille> huwenfeng: you deleted something you shouldn't have, next time use:  sudo apt-get clean
[11:10] <huwenfeng> oh, i am sorry to hear that , so what can i do not?
[11:10] <huwenfeng> what can i do now?
[11:10] <huwenfeng> it seems aptitude does not work anymore.
[11:10] <[Sarai]> well, thanks
[11:11] <dns53> sug1 not for years, there are some applications around, look for software testing applications, they can be scripted with things like move mouse to x,y, wait x seconds, press button etc
[11:11] <ardchoille> huwenfeng: sudo mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
[11:11] <shbika123_> huwenfeng : sudo mkdir -p /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
[11:11] <frucki> hey, iam running ubuntu 8.10 but wanna get rid of all the garbage that come with the release (games, office etc.)
[11:11] <dns53> webas ls -la, nautilus has a show hidden files option. i would not delete them but move them somewhere
[11:12] <frucki> can i deselect packages while in installing or can i choose the minimal server edition even its a desktop system?
[11:12] <jerknextdoor> frucki:  applications>add/remove
[11:12] <Mutu> Hi, i have trouble with Hibernate/Suspend features on ubuntu on my IBM laptop. Can anyone help?Everything freezes when i try to resume
[11:12] <sug1> dns53: darn, i was hoping for an actual fix, not a work around.  but thank you.
[11:12] <huwenfeng> OK, what does that dir do? partical? did i loose all my dependency data?
[11:12] <webas> there is only audacity audacious and adobe starting from .a letter..nothing else :\
[11:13] <dns53> frucki if you don't want everthing installed you should use the server install
[11:13] <ardchoille> huwenfeng: that dir on my machine is empty and my system works fine
[11:13] <jerknextdoor> frucki: or an alternate install that you can be more specific with
[11:13] <huwenfeng> ok, i am really a newbie in ubuntu
[11:13] <ardchoille> huwenfeng: it wouldn't hurt to do:  sudo apt-get update
[11:13] <frucki> i just wondered if the minimal server edition is suitable for desktop systems
[11:13] <frucki> saw smth like it uses some "server" kernel
[11:14] <ziroday> frucki: the server version has the server kernel, optimised for server environments.
[11:14] <ardchoille> frucki: server edition has no desktop environment, but you can install one
[11:14] <huwenfeng> ardchoille: there's some people saying  that we should use aptitude instead of apt-get? is that right?
[11:14] <ardchoille> huwenfeng: that's up to you I suppose
[11:15] <dns53> frucki you can install the server kernel, the normal desktop kernel and a real time kernel
[11:15] <frucki> doable for beginners?
[11:15] <frucki> does minimal server edition do network card configuration like the desktop edition does?
[11:16] <frucki> iam directly connected to the cable modem - in case server edition automatically detects network card with dhcp i would install windows manager n stuff later
[11:16] <dns53> frucki it's a ncurses menu system, it asks the same kind of questions but allows more options, give it a try
[11:16] <frucki> the server install you mean right, dns53?
[11:16] <ziroday> frucki: if you are a beginner then you should use the desktop edition. Why exactly do you want the server version?
[11:17] <dns53> frucki yes server and live cd, it will detect dhcp or you can set things manually
[11:17] <frucki> ah, fine then.
[11:17] <jerknextdoor> frucki: unless you have a reason to only install a few apps (then why are you using ubuntu and not damn small or a live cd?) then install it all and then uninstall what you don't want unless you can use a text based installer and only get what you want efficiently.
[11:18] <webas> there is only audacity audacious and adobe starting from .a letter..nothing else :\ dns53
[11:18] <frucki> after using desktop ubuntu from 8.04 i found that i only need a few programs
[11:18] <frucki> uninstalling all the programs is time consuming and annoying
[11:19] <dns53> webas hmm that is strange, there should be something there, you in the right account?
[11:19] <frucki> but right, i could even try the desktop edition with the text based installer
[11:19] <a1len> Is there a way to open .rar archives?
[11:19] <ziroday> !rar | a1len
[11:19] <webas> yes im in the right account.. in that one with problem... well if its easy i could try to downgrade this to 3.5final kde :) it would be also okay..
[11:20] <dns53> frucki dpkg --get-selections, and dpkg --set-selections is useful if you know what you want installed
[11:20] <a1len> Thanks ziroday
[11:20] <frucki> will have a look at it, thanks dns53
[11:20] <ziroday> a1len: have fun
[11:22] <huwenfeng> the tunapie just show the radio station , but when i choose one , and click the play button ,  it did not start
[11:23] <huwenfeng> the streamtuner , just say there is not "xmms" , no such file or directory,  failed to start child process
[11:23] <huwenfeng> but i can not install xmms
[11:23] <dns53> huwenfeng install xmm2
[11:24] <bazhang> !xmms
[11:24] <TecR0c> i cannot install irssi.. i have download it and typed ./configure then it says i require GLIB. so i downloaded GLIB 2.9 and gettext and when back to install irssi and it still says that it requires GLIB ?
[11:24] <bazhang> huwenfeng, consider audacious instead
[11:25] <lodder> Is there any idea on when dom0 will be available on intrid ibex ?
[11:26] <dns53> TecR0c that is available in apt, why are you compiling it?    run apt-get buld-dep package to get the dependencies required for compiling it
[11:26] <dns53> lodder i've not played around with xen, what is required for dom0?
[11:27] <lodder> well i've read on the forum that there isn't kernel support for xen dom0 so 8.10 is a xen server
[11:27] <VistaUser> cya
[11:28] <shbika123_> huwenfeng: http://www.getdeb.net/app/Songbird   it's like Winamp
[11:28] <TecR0c> dns53: E: Invalid operation buld-dep
[11:29] <TecR0c> oh i forgot the package one sec
[11:29] <TecR0c> hrm no lluck
[11:29] <Demios1> I'm new to ubuntu, right now I have a problem getting a sound blaster to work, I can get sound off the on-board sound card but not the PCI one, they both seem to be installed but also under the system->administration->sound I can get test sounds only from the on-board.. why isn't the sound blaster giving off sound?
[11:30] <TecR0c> dns53: that command does not work for me
[11:30] <dns53> TecR0c it's build-dep and you will need to add the deb-src for all your apt sources, so copy the deb line and make it start with deb-src
[11:31] <huwenfeng> OK, it start to work,
[11:31] <TecR0c> dns53: where would i found the deb line ? would that be on their website ?
[11:31] <huwenfeng> tunapie still does not work
[11:32] <huwenfeng> just purge it , use streamtuner is enough
[11:34] <evhy> hai
[11:34] <dns53> TecR0c open up your /etc/apt/sources.list and for each line that starts with deb url copy it and make it deb-src url, you could also go system > administration > sources and click the source code box
[11:34] <arquebus> dns53: just found out, run emacs in a console with: emacs -nw
[11:35] <dns53> arquebus thanks, i just prefer the normal bash mappings and i use vim
[11:35] <Sharp_eyes> hi all
[11:35] <TecR0c> dns53: okay i got it to work, i was able to type apt-get build-deps irssi
[11:36] <Sharp_eyes> any body know that how to open rar files in ubuntu
[11:36] <dns53> !rar
[11:36] <jerknextdoor> sharp_eyes: rar!
[11:36] <Sharp_eyes> winrar
[11:36] <lodder> !7zip
[11:36] <lodder> !7z
[11:37] <Sharp_eyes> i hve to install this pakage name 7zip
[11:38] <erUSUL> Sharp_eyes: no you have to install rar or unrar
[11:38] <Sharp_eyes> how can'
[11:39] <amerj> pass123
[11:39] <Sharp_eyes> ??
[11:39] <imminentwill> sudo apt-get install unrar
[11:40] <jerknextdoor> sharp_eyes:  sudo apt-get install unrar
[11:43] <bonhoffer> i had the netbook remix and i uninstalled the launcher -- every window still maximizes -- anyone know how i can remove this feature and restore windows
[11:43] <Gto286> gee been awhile since i been here
[11:44] <huwenfeng> hi all , ubuntu get only two windows , can i add myself?
[11:44] <VSpike> How can I quickly find out what release I am running on a server?
[11:44] <dellubuntu> i have a shared drive that auto mounts on my other computers the entry in fstab is //computer/shareddrive	/media/shareddrive	cifs	user,uid=####,iocharset=utf#,codepage=unicode,unicode why isnt it mounting? what am i missing
[11:44] <huwenfeng> VSpike: uname -r
[11:44] <erUSUL> !software | Sharp_eyes
[11:45] <Sharp_eyes> erUSUL: thanks
[11:45] <Sharp_eyes> i hve done it from this link http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/unrar/download
[11:46] <erUSUL> Sharp_eyes: there is no need to do that... check the link ubotuu gave you
[11:46] <dellubuntu> !automount
[11:46] <frankaa> 18:30:25 2008
 hi, is there somehow i can do a complete reinstallation with default settings of the printer section in ubuntu 8.10?
 think i have messed it up
 got some problems when i tried to remove a network printer
[11:46] <FloodBot3> frankaa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
 it keep connecting to it even when it was deleted which caused freezes
[11:46] <dellubuntu> !mount
[11:46] <huwenfeng> you guys know that debian got four windows by default,  but ubuntu only get two , can i config this?
[11:47] <bonhoffer> VSpike, cat /etc/lsb-release
[11:47] <erUSUL> huwenfeng: 4 workspaces ? right click on the wrokspace changer and choose Preferences
[11:47] <huwenfeng> yes ,workspace
[11:48] <huwenfeng> Oh, it's really easy, thank you
[11:48] <VSpike> bonhoffer, huwenfeng : thanks
[11:49] <Gto286> i just got apache installed. but i don't have the user permissions to wrote/change anything in var/ or var/www
[11:50] <bonhoffer> does anyone know what maximus does -- how is it related to the netbook remix?
[11:50] <erUSUL> huwenfeng: no problem
[11:50] <dns53> Gto286 and it's a good idea, sudo -s and do the work you need to under sudo instead of granting yourselves too many permissions
[11:51] <erUSUL> !rootshell
[11:51] <dns53> bonhoffer it gives you a full screen window, with the remix you turn off title bars and have a gnome applet to switch windows
[11:51] <VSpike> Ahh.. was just trying to figure out why two 8.04 servers had different version of unison installed, but it's because one has backports enabled
[11:52] <bonhoffer> dns53, thanks so netbook remix is a ume control-panel/launcher and maximus takes away my titlebars and maximizes my windows?
[11:52] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[11:52] <dns53> bonhoffer yes, have a look at the screenshots
[11:53] <datta> how do i make my medias in firefox ubuntu to be loaded with real player nothing else?
[11:53] <huwenfeng> erUSUL: OK, there's another problem , can i change workspace without using my mouse?
[11:53] <lontara_dheash> newbie....
[11:53] <juro> this is getting really bothering. why is Ubuntu not detecting my Dell 2407WFP correctly (connected to a NVIDIA geforce 7)?
[11:53] <datta> i hate the movie player which doesn't work well in a lot of sites
[11:53] <doktoreas> I have read that old releases of wubi, used the alternate disk instead of the Desktop one..
[11:53] <lontara_dheash> instal.... vga via chrome9 hg igp ???
[11:53] <doktoreas> anyone know since wich version?
[11:53] <bonhoffer> dns53, i have it installed -- i am going to disable maximus though
[11:53] <erUSUL> huwenfeng: i use compiz and there is several keybindings for that in plain metacity i'm sure there are keybindings too
[11:53] <jerknextdoor> huwenfeng: ctrl+alt+arrow
[11:53] <VSpike> huwenfeng: ctrl-alt-cursor right?
[11:54] <huwenfeng> YES,OK
[11:54] <primoz> hello, I can not hear sound from my TV card. If i list pmc devices I can see audi capture device, but dont know why is not working. Any Idea ?
[11:54] <huwenfeng> it works
[11:54] <arquebus> look at # of users, ubuntu is leet
[11:54] <datta> how do i make my medias in firefox ubuntu to be loaded with real player nothing else? i tried to change it through the preference but can
[11:54] <dns53> bonhoffer i use compiz myself as you can have a window over multiple virtual desktops
[11:54] <datta> can
[11:54] <arquebus> whoops, too late
[11:54] <datta> can't find the exe file
[11:54] <bonhoffer> dns53, interestsing, installed by default?
[11:55] <bonhoffer> looks like i have it
[11:55] <jerknextdoor> huwenfeng: you can also just mouse scroll on your desktop to switch.
[11:55] <erUSUL> huwenfeng: crtl + alt + →
[11:55] <dns53> bonhoffer it should be there, you will need to select the right plugin with the compiz settings manager (not installed by default)
[11:55] <huwenfeng> YES,it all works
[11:56] <bonhoffer> dns53, o.k. makes sense
[11:56] <huwenfeng> jerknextdoor: erUSUL: yes all works ,
[11:56] <bonhoffer> now i just unchecked maximus under preferences --> sessions -- when does it go away (anything short of reboot?)
[11:56] <dns53> bonhoffer logout/login is enough
[11:57] <bonhoffer> o.k.
[11:58] <datta> come on can anyone help me to solve the problem with media because i think that ubuntu is not good for media at all
[11:59] <jerknextdoor> datta:  what's the problem?
[12:00] <datta> when i want to listen to news in bbcbengali it doesn't play
[12:01] <dns53> datta can you play a mp3? do you have the codec's? does sound work in the rest of the system?
[12:01] <datta> i have realplayer installed but i can't make it so that my firefox loads with the realplayer, it always starts with the totem movie player
[12:01] <datta> yeah it does for some but not for some
[12:01] <jerknextdoor> datta: i have never tired to listen to bbcbengali before so i can't help you.  i'd try but my internet is too slow tonight to be able to do it (borrowing from the neighbors til the bill gets paid).  have you tried vlc or totem?  they both play bbc.
[12:02] <Liqunantoru> need MOC
[12:02] <datta> how do i make vlc play anything
[12:02] <datta> it doesn't play anything of streaming
[12:03] <jamesbrink> is it possible to specify a from address when sending email with mail command from bash script?
[12:03] <jerknextdoor> datta: vlc:  media > network
[12:04] <mrwes> Wow bluetooth in 8.10 works OTB
[12:04] <datta> mine is version 0.8 and it doesn't have anything for that like that
[12:04] <mrwes> is impressed
[12:05] <datta> with the media and then network. is it the wizard for network?
[12:05] <jerknextdoor> datta:  it's there, but i cant remember exactly how to do it.  i have a different version than you.  maybe try VLC support?
[12:05] <generalsnus> i have 2 xubuntu boxeswich authenticate users against ldap/ad.   And 1 box with a NFS share: the directory "homeshare" is exported...   and the 2 xubuntu's have the NFS share mounted with fstab: 10.10.10.10:/homeshare  /home/homeshare nfs...etc etc     works great, however when i login with a freshly created user for xubuntu box 1.  the home folder /home/homeshare/username  is made.  but if o log on from the other xubu
[12:05] <inad922> hello
[12:06] <bassliner> is there a reason why there is no mkinitrd command and no apt-get'table package in ubuntu 8.10?
[12:06] <inad922> I try to yank with C-y in emacs and instead of yanking it stops the process. Anyone else had this problem?
[12:07] <dns53> bassliner i think they changed the module build system a little, it will link the nvidia drivers on the fly when installing a new kernel
[12:08] <speakman> Hi folks!
[12:08] <dns53> hey
[12:08] <speakman> My /dev/ttyS0 keep getting this permissions: crw------- 1 root root
[12:09] <generalsnus> i have 2 xubuntu boxeswich authenticate users against ldap/ad.   And 1 box with a NFS share: the directory "homeshare" is exported...   and the 2 xubuntu's have the NFS share mounted with fstab: 10.10.10.10:/homeshare  /home/homeshare nfs...etc etc     works great, however when i login with a freshly created user for xubuntu box 1.  the home folder /home/homeshare/username  is made.  but if o log on from the other xubu
[12:09] <speakman> Changing it with chmod/chown won't stay after next reboot,.
[12:09] <jerknextdoor> speakman | no need to repeat.  just say the problem and if someone knows the answer they will answer.
[12:10] <speakman> ?!
[12:10] <dns53> speakman what device is generating this? these dev nodes are generated on the fly with udev so you will need to track down where in the scripts it is generated and change it there
[12:10] <jerknextdoor> speakman: i appologize that wasn't meant for you.  i hit the wrong thing
[12:11] <speakman> jerknextdoor: k :D
[12:11] <speakman> dns53: it's a "Fit-PC Slim", which might have it's own serial driver. How can I check which one's causing /dev/ttyS0 ?
[12:14] <dns53> speakman well i've failed to configure udev over the years, it's something in /etc/udev/rules.d
[12:14] <ionicz> hi
[12:14] <ionicz> i have a question
[12:15] <dns53> !ask |ionicz
[12:15] <speakman> dns53: will take a look...
[12:15] <ionicz> ok
[12:15] <Demios1> I'm new to ubuntu, right now I have a problem getting a sound blaster to work, I can get sound off the on-board sound card but not the PCI one, they both seem to be installed but also under the system->administration->sound I can get test sounds only from the on-board.. why isn't the sound blaster giving off sound?
[12:17] <dns53> Demios1  i have heard the recent sound blaster cards have some bad drivers(now open source) i have no idea if this is the problem or not
[12:17] <ionicz> when virtualboxing windows xp is it possible to use the dvd burner and burn cdz when in virt?
[12:17] <ikonia> ionicz: direct hardware access to the host hardware is going to be limited
[12:17] <bassliner> ionicz: it's a common question and the answer is yes.
[12:17] <ikonia> ionicz: the possability will depend on your virtualization technology and it's hardware support
[12:17] <bassliner> ionicz: surprisingly
[12:18] <ionicz> ok how?
[12:18] <bassliner> ionicz: i've read ppl managed to let that work
[12:18] <inad922> is there any way to disable gnome-terminal`s Control-z command to send the process to the background?
[12:18] <jerknextdoor> dns53:  i can't answer your question.  my only advice is to check their forums.  i know i've read about that problem before.  i'm sure someone here has the answer.
[12:18] <ikonia> ionicz: virtual box support is in #vbox
[12:18] <bassliner> ionicz: no, because it has nothing to do with the terminal.
[12:18] <ionicz> ok
[12:18] <ionicz> thanks
[12:18] <bassliner> ionicz: it's a feature of the shell.
[12:18] <ikonia> bassliner: it was inad922 asking
[12:19] <bassliner> ewpz
[12:19] <bassliner> ty
[12:19] <Demios1> dns53: I'm running an old sound blaster... from maybe 10 years ago
[12:19] <dns53> ionicz you can configure bash (or other shell) not to do this, not sure how
[12:19] <inad922> bassliner, but is there no way to disable that stuff
[12:20] <bassliner> inad922: it doesn't really make sense to disable it
[12:20] <inad922> I dont need it and it always sends emacs to bg when I try to yank
[12:20] <bassliner> inad922: you can re-attach those processes back to the foreground
[12:20] <inad922> well as you see it does have
[12:20] <bassliner> inad922: then get it back to foreground.
[12:20] <ionicz> then what programs will work in seperating a complete track into multiple tracks then burning them together with no silence so theres a complete set or individual tracks option
[12:20] <inad922> wow every time I yank I have to make it come back?
[12:20] <dns53> fg to send it to the foreground
[12:20]  * Panarchy says Hi
[12:20] <inad922> well thats not too good of a solution
[12:20] <bassliner> inad922: it's just one key stroke.
[12:20] <Panarchy> Oi guys, just noticed something really weird
[12:21] <Panarchy> Up the top right hand corner of the screen
[12:21] <Panarchy> where it usually has the red power icon and 'Live session user'
[12:21] <Panarchy> it now, instead of the red power icon, has a green circle
[12:21] <Panarchy> What's with that?
[12:21] <Zyndrof> I'm thinkin' of updating my BIOS. The update is only for XP though. Will it work if I install it through WINE?
[12:21]  * Panarchy says Hi
[12:21] <Panarchy> Oi guys, just noticed something really weird
[12:21] <Panarchy> Up the top right hand corner of the screen
[12:21] <Panarchy> where it usually has the red power icon and 'Live session user'
[12:22] <FloodBot3> Panarchy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:22] <Panarchy> it now, instead of the red power icon, has a green circle
[12:22] <Panarchy> What's with that?
[12:22] <dns53> Panarchy they changed it in intrepid, you can have your gaim preferences there, you can change to the old style applet if you want
[12:22] <mrbulle> i have some problems with my network in ubuntu
[12:22] <ikonia> Panarchy: it's a different icon
[12:22] <Panarchy> dns53: Ahhhhh....
[12:22] <Panarchy> dns53: First time I had opened Pidgin
[12:22] <Panarchy> dns53: So that must be it
[12:22] <Panarchy> Thanks
[12:22] <Myrtti> Panarchy: you'll break the enter key of your keyboard soon.
[12:23] <Panarchy> Then I'll have to buy a new keyboard :P
[12:23] <Panarchy> lol
[12:23] <mrbulle> I can´t find my networkcard
[12:23]  * Panarchy goes back to his studying
[12:24] <speakman> dns53: grep root * in /etc/udev/rules.d won't show anything binding any tty devices to root ownership :/
[12:24] <jerknextdoor> what's the channel for ibex?
[12:24] <ikonia> jerknextdoor: your in it
[12:25] <tripitakit> uit
[12:25] <jerknextdoor> ikonia:  sorry, i didn't mean ibex.  i meant for jaunty
[12:25] <ikonia> jerknextdoor: #ubuntu+1
[12:25] <jerknextdoor> ikonia: ty
[12:26] <jerknextdoor> has anyone else had a problem with the fast user switcher applet in ibex?
[12:26] <dfgas> alright, i can not get more than one program to use sound at a time. is this because i am using onboard sound or should i slap in my sound blaster live auidgy 2?
[12:27] <jerknextdoor> FUSA wont work on my system.
[12:28] <bassliner> inad922: well you actually could disable that ctrl-z thing from the shell, but i really don't see a point in it...
[12:28] <Andrew``> hey all
[12:29] <ikonia> jerknextdoor: do you mean Fuse ?
[12:29] <Andrew``> am currently a suse 11.0 user and am getting more pissed off as I go on.... have been suggested trying ubuntu. Can anyone tell me why I should change to it?
[12:29] <jerknextdoor> ikonia: the fast user switcher applet is what im referring to.
[12:30] <ikonia> jerknextdoor: in what way doesn't work ?
[12:30] <vallhalla81> Andrew``:  it is very stable with a large user grp meaning you can get help easy if you need it it supports loads of hard ware
[12:30] <speakman> Andrew``: dpkg
[12:30] <speakman> !dpkg
[12:31] <Chilliwack> Hi. I've heard that GParted can be a bit wonky. Is there a better recommended partition resizer out there?
[12:31] <jerknextdoor> ikonia: well, i just tried to add it my panel and it didnt load and it didnt give the error it normally does.  so i cant tell you the normal error but it something along the lines of 'fusa crashed upon loading.  reload?'
[12:31] <ikonia> Chilliwack: resizing partitions has risks - no matter the tool. Gparted is as good as any
[12:31] <Demios1> I'm new to ubuntu, right now I have a problem getting a sound blaster to work, I can get sound off the on-board sound card but not the PCI one, they both seem to be installed but also under the system->administration->sound I can get test sounds only from the on-board.. why isn't the sound blaster giving off sound?
[12:32] <ikonia> jerknextdoor: it's already on your panel by default
[12:32] <Andrew``> vallhalla81, ok... does ubuntu use any different size memory to suse?
[12:32] <Cybertinus> hi
[12:32] <mrbulle> my problem is that I cant´t find my wireless network
[12:33] <speakman> Andrew``: it's basically using the same user interface, gnome or kde. No big differences in memory usage. What's your problem with SuSE?
[12:33] <vallhalla81> Andrew``: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/desktopedition should help you
[12:33] <jerknextdoor> ikonia: sorry i got disconnected for a second if you tried to reply
[12:33] <ikonia> jerknextdoor: it's already on your panel by default
[12:34] <Cybertinus> During the install of Ubuntu, can I choose to create a GPT partition table, instead of the default partition table?
[12:34] <ikonia> Cybertinus: why would you want that ?
[12:34] <Cybertinus> ikonia: because my disk is 4,5 TB ;)
[12:34] <jerknextdoor> ikonia: it should be but when i installed and it asked me if i wanted it i hit the wrong button.  now it wont load.  i've reinstalled with synaptic a couple times and it's the same thing
[12:34] <bassliner> inad922: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/175204?page=last
[12:34] <ikonia> Cybertinus: I'm not aware of a 4.5TB disk in existance
[12:34] <bassliner> inad922: that does exactly what you want
[12:35] <ikonia> jerknextdoor: you shouldn't have needed to install it, it was already there by default
[12:35] <Cybertinus> ikonia: well, a 4,5 TB RAID6 set then :)
[12:35] <ikonia> Cybertinus: is it hardware or software raid ?
[12:35] <Cybertinus> ikonia: hardware
[12:35] <vallhalla81> quick question is there a way to make a live cd of my system?
[12:35] <jerknextdoor> ikonia: but it's not.  my panel doesn't have it.  i can assure you that.  if i trie to add it it crashes.
[12:36] <Cybertinus> ikonia: so the OS thinks it has a 4,5 TB SCSI disk, but in reality it is a 8x 750 GB RAID6 set
[12:36] <ikonia> Cybertinus: I'd suggest using the alternative CD to install and see if that option is there
[12:36] <inad922> wow
[12:36] <ikonia> jerknextdoor: log a bug
[12:36] <inad922> thanks bassliner
[12:36] <bassliner> inad922: yw :)
[12:36] <Cybertinus> ok, thnx ikonia, will download the alternate CD then
[12:36] <saftsack> my network does not replay after a couple of traffic (8.10-server, via_rhine, hardware is ok, x86)
[12:37] <ikonia> Cybertinus: no promise it's in there, but thats a reaslistic option
[12:37] <jerknextdoor> ikonia: thanks man.  i will log a bug.  but this the first thing in 4 releases that ive experienced that no one else has.
[12:37] <ikonia> jerknextdoor: possible it doesn't work with your hardware ?
[12:37] <speakman> Cybertinus: use MBR style, create LVM-partitions and use LVM2.
[12:38] <ganesh> how to install topaz bainstorm?
[12:38] <saftsack> does anybody has an idea?
[12:38] <jerknextdoor> ikonia: i thought that but i have a pretty generic thinkpad so it shouldn't be that.  plus it works with the jaunty alpha
[12:39] <lodder> xen server in 9.04 ?
[12:39] <danielm_mc> how do you find out what is loading the iptables + netfilter modules?
[12:39] <yagga> hola mi amigos feliz dia del gracias
[12:39] <rww> lodder: jaunty discussion in #ubuntu+1
[12:39] <rww> !e
[12:39] <rww> !es
[12:40] <yagga> que?
[12:40] <mrbulle> my network dosen´t work in ubuntu
[12:41] <yagga> !samba
[12:41] <Cybertinus> speakman: is it possible to move a current GPT partition without LVM to a partition with LVM without formating?
[12:41] <snuitje> i don't use windows but i still have samba
[12:42] <yagga> !nfs
[12:42] <ganesh> how to install topaz bainstorm?
[12:42] <snuitje> i like samba over nfs =)
[12:42] <ardchoille> !rss
[12:42] <ccg-> how to manage extensions in mozilla ?
[12:43] <hasan> gfghuhnininini
[12:43] <Andrew``> brb
[12:43] <udan> how to install ubuntu if i run freespire ?
[12:43] <ardchoille> I have a friend who needs an rss feed reader for Ubuntu 8.10 but she dislikes liferea and doesn't want to use firefox.
[12:44] <rww> !install | udan: same way most people install it
[12:45] <hasan> jfg
[12:45] <snuitje> udan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[12:45] <davy> hello people.i have just restarted my computer for the first time since insatllation.in the login menu their is a user i have never created called 'sabyon user'.is this normal?thanx 4 your help
[12:46] <speakman> Cybertinus: Never used GPT, but moving to LVM probably requires some formating.
[12:47] <generalsnus> I have my /home folder on a nfs share..  and i have 2 xubuntu boxes .. the users have same uid etc..  but when i login  form the 2 computers, the one cretaes a home folder like /home/USERNAME  and the other makes /home /username   1 uses capital letters and the other dont...  how can i make both computers use the same /home/username folder?
[12:47] <Cybertinus> speakman: ah, ok. Then is LVM not an option :). I can't format my current GPT partition. I don't have the diskspace to temporary move 4,5 TB to another place ;)
[12:49] <pronoy> can anyone please tell me how to install beryl themes on ubuntu ?
[12:49] <speakman> Cybertinus: is it completely filled with 4,5TB? else it could be done in steps..
[12:50] <Cybertinus> speakman: it is 1 partition of 4,5 TB
[12:50] <d-k]> hi, just quick question, does ubuntu have apt-get?
[12:50] <Cybertinus> so, I can't see how to do it in steps :)
[12:50] <speakman> Cybertinus: is it filled with data?
[12:50] <speakman> what's the filesystem type?
[12:50] <Cybertinus> speakman: yeah, mostly
[12:50] <snuitje> yes, ubuntu has it
[12:50] <d-k]> thx
[12:50] <Cybertinus> speakman: ext3
[12:51] <speakman> it could be resized
[12:51] <phoenix3051> d-k], yes it does.
[12:51] <speakman> if you've got a 1,5TB USB/FW disk (it's pretty cheap these days) it won't take long
[12:52] <Cybertinus> speakman: I don't have a 1,5 TB USB disk. I do have 3 500 GB USB/eSATA disks :)
[12:52] <Cybertinus> speakman:  but those are also used with data
[12:53]  * rww thinks Cybertinus has too much data :P
[12:53] <pronoy> can anyone please tell me how to install beryl themes on ubuntu ?
[12:53] <speakman> Cybertinus: i'm talking about *free* space for temporary storage.
[12:53] <yagga> generalsnus: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[12:53] <Cybertinus> speakman: Like I said: I don't have any ;)
[12:54] <Cybertinus> rww: heh :). Well, those 500 GB external disk only are backups of my /home partition ;), so that makes it a bit less data ;)
[12:54] <d-k]> is there a keycombo for ubuntu to get a terminal on kde? I just try to help someone out but I don't have a clue of ubuntu but debian :(
[12:54] <speakman> then there's nothing to do, easy as that
[12:54] <rww> !beryl | pronoy
[12:55] <Kolopmpa> Hozsanna testverek
[12:55] <phoenix3051> d-k], <alt-f2> and type konsole
[12:55] <d-k]> thanks phoenix3051
[12:55] <rww> !hu | Kolopmpa
[12:55] <pronoy> rww: but i guess the beryl emerald themes do work.....right ?? how do i use them ?
[12:56] <rww> pronoy: not sure on either question. The folks in #compiz-fusion should know.
[12:57] <generalsnus> yagga: cant do, users authenticate against active directory
[12:57] <speakman> Cybertinus: why did you even ask if you could create GPT partitions if you weren't going to format it anyway?
[12:58] <pronoy> rww: thanks..i'll check that out
[13:00] <stilllooking> Entrez le texte ici...
[13:00] <stilllooking> bon jour totomond
[13:00] <rww> !fr | stilllooking
[13:00] <Andrew``> will AMSN run under ubuntu?
[13:00] <stilllooking> hello
[13:01] <stilllooking> hello
[13:01] <stilllooking> hello
[13:01] <stilllooking> hello
[13:01] <FloodBot3> stilllooking: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:01] <Bog> nice protection
[13:02] <Bog> i ubottu a bot?
[13:02] <Bog> is *
[13:02] <taurusivy> i wanna use oracle in ubuntu, which version should i install? crs, ccd, or xe?? thanks!!
[13:02] <rww> Bog: yes
[13:02] <cs_student> firefox won't start when I click the launcher for some reason.  I've tried restarting, but that didn't help either.
[13:02] <speakman> !ubottu
[13:02] <Bog> ùìåí, àðé ìà îãáø àðâìéú
[13:02] <Bog> can it recognize this?
[13:02] <speakman> !sv
[13:03] <Bog> no
[13:03] <Bog> !he
[13:03] <FloodBot3> ubottu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:03] <Bog> i got it
[13:03] <Bog> nice
[13:03] <Bog> lol
[13:04] <Bog> i'm sorry, one last thing
[13:04] <Bog> !he
[13:04] <Bog> !sv
[13:04] <FloodBot3> ubottu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:04] <rww> cs_student: load up a terminal and type firefox into it, and see if that works. if not, pastebin the errors
[13:04] <Bog> owned...
[13:04] <rww> !fishing | Bog
[13:04] <yagga> !pest
[13:05] <maxbaldwin> ok, the bot thing is old now guys. We can stop now.
[13:05] <speakman> !se
[13:05] <Bog> hey i'm not a fisher
[13:05] <D7> is this ubuntu netbook remix image a good idea for an acer aspire one?
[13:07] <stilllooking> is there any girl here
[13:07] <yagga> !troll
[13:07] <rww> !offtopic | stilllooking
[13:08] <stilllooking> hihoooooooooooooo
[13:08] <stilllooking> hhihooooooooooooooooooo
[13:08]  * rww sighs
[13:08] <stilllooking> hi  girls
[13:08] <stilllooking> no girls
[13:08] <Anish> yea , girls No such nick/channel
[13:08] <stilllooking> hihoooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[13:09] <yagga> nah only guys
[13:09] <stilllooking> realy
[13:09] <D7> thats not the way to go about talking to them, there bud
[13:09] <potwak> linux are you here?
[13:09] <stilllooking> realy
[13:09] <VistaUser> hey
[13:09] <VistaUser> anyone there
[13:09] <VistaUser> how do i get itunes on Ubuntu?
[13:09] <rww> stilllooking: take off-topic discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic. take immaturity off-server :)
[13:10] <stilllooking> how can i do that
[13:10] <rww> !itunes | VistaUser
[13:10] <Acedip> what does "uuid" mean in the menu.lst file http://pastebin.com/m3920a668
[13:10] <VistaUser> can i still manage my ipod with it?
[13:10] <VSpike> !uuid | Acedip
[13:11] <stilllooking> hihooooooooooooooooooo
[13:11] <potwak> any filipino here?
[13:11] <bazhang> stilllooking, stop
[13:11] <stilllooking> what
[13:11] <rww> !ipod | VistaUser
[13:11] <bazhang> this is not a chat channel stilllooking
[13:11] <lorenzosu> How to set default application for a file type?
[13:11] <VistaUser> ty rww
[13:11] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic for that stilllooking
[13:11] <VSpike> Acedip: more reliable way of identifying a disk & partition than /dev/sdb1 or whatever, which can change easily
[13:11] <D7> rww, is there a channel for netboot-remix?
[13:12] <neoDite> !rockbox
[13:12] <stilllooking> it's shame on you
[13:12] <johan_> Hi, I want to be able to see Windows fonts correctly. What package shall I download?
[13:12] <bazhang> stilllooking, this is ubuntu support
[13:12] <rww> D7: no idea
[13:12] <bazhang> stilllooking, do you have a support question
[13:13] <lesshaste> what's the webpage where you can upload screenshots again?
[13:13] <stilllooking> ok bay every body
[13:13] <rww> D7: all I know about it is that it's still very much under development. I chose to go with Xubuntu instead on my Eee PC
[13:13] <stilllooking> i'm sorry
[13:13] <zer0o> hi guys what was the right command to copy a folder? sudo cp - something?
[13:13] <zer0o> what was that?
[13:13] <Acedip> ubottu: is it okk to comment it out ??
[13:13] <rww> zer0o: cp -R
[13:13] <yagga> -R
[13:13] <d-k]> thanks, it worked, bye
[13:13] <VistaUser> anyone know some good packages????????
[13:13] <stilllooking> i said i'm soory
[13:13] <D7> rww, yeah... regular ubuntu is probably good enough on this aspire one. but some things are just a bit sketchy...
[13:13] <potwak> !ubuntu
[13:14] <stilllooking> i'm soory
[13:14] <stilllooking> i'm soory
[13:14] <stilllooking> i'm soory
[13:14] <FloodBot3> stilllooking: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:14] <zleap> cool
[13:14] <lorenzosu> How to set default application for a file type (i.e. when double clicked in nautilus)?
[13:14] <zleap> ubottu can i copy that to my sig please
[13:14] <rww> !good | VistaUser
[13:15] <Snifff> hello people
[13:15] <stilllooking> pleas i wanna break my PC how can i do that
[13:15] <stilllooking> pleas i wanna break my PC how can i do that
[13:15] <Acedip> VSpike: is it ok to comment it out
[13:15] <potwak> how can i restore my grub?
[13:15] <rww> !default | lorenzosu
[13:15] <Andrew``> ok guys, I have a 64bit architecture and was wondering if it really helps to d/l the 64bit CD?
[13:15] <Acedip> VSpike: the uuid line
[13:15] <rww> !grub | potwak
[13:16] <VistaUser> is rww a bot?
[13:16] <rww> potwak: (see first link)
[13:16] <lorenzosu> rww, Ohh I see thanks... thought that was a one time setting
[13:16] <potwak> rww: thanks.
[13:16] <ZeroA4> lorenzosu, click on any file of that type with the other mouse button, choose propreties - open with
[13:16] <ardchoille> Is there a quick keyboard shortcut that brings all screenlets to the from?
[13:16] <rww> VistaUser: no, I just know the ubottu database and am too lazy to copy/paste it :)
[13:16] <Cybertinus> speakman: because the 4,5 TB disk is already GPT. Well, actually, at the moment the disk is only 3 TB (it already is RAID6). It is a 6x 750 GB disk now. Next to it I've got 2 36 GB disks in RAID0. That RAID0 set is my OS RAID set. I'm thinking about trowing out the RAID0 and running only on the RAID6. Then I also expand my RAID6 set with another 2 750 GB disk, which gets me to the mentioned 8x 750 GB RAID6 set which has a storage of 4,5 TB.
[13:16] <Cybertinus>  But I must move my OSses away from the RAID0 set. I've got 2 OSses atm: Gentoo and Windows XP x64 edition. Now I'm testing if Linux and Windows both can boot from a GPT partition. But installing Gentoo in a virtual machine takes to much time, so I'm installing Ubuntu into it instead. If Ubuntu can boot from GPT, so can Gentoo. But when I install Ubuntu in my virtual machine, it must create a GPT partition, otherwise my test will be
[13:16] <Cybertinus> useless (sry for the very long line on IRC ;) )
[13:16] <lorenzosu> ZeroA4, thanks.
[13:16] <VistaUser> lol
[13:16] <VistaUser> ok
[13:17] <VistaUser> rww can i ask u a serious question new command or bots or w/e what is ur top 2 linux thingys
[13:17] <VistaUser> no*
[13:17] <ikonia> VistaUser: what do you want to know ?
[13:17] <vallhalla81> !uck
[13:17] <lorenzosu> but it doesn't work :(
[13:18] <rww> VistaUser: my favorite two packages? I mainly only use firefox and pidgin, so probably those :/
[13:18] <VistaUser> which os of linux u think is the best i want to get on my other computer
[13:18] <VistaUser> ubuntu xbuntu fedro KDE etc
[13:18] <lorenzosu> I try to change wav files from the default movie player to vlc... but when I double click on one it still opens in movie player
[13:18] <ardchoille> VistaUser: Ubuntu of course :)
[13:18] <VistaUser> lol
[13:18] <ikonia> VistaUser: thats personal preference and something that only ou can answer
[13:18] <tripitakit> VistaUser, depends on you taste and hardware..
[13:19] <ikonia> VistaUser: try them, and see what you like
[13:19] <Skry^> VistaUser, ubuntu, fedora, archlinux
[13:19] <Snifff> i have a noise on the level of the hard drive pricipal doubtless
[13:19] <VistaUser> ty skry^
[13:19] <Snifff> why?
[13:19] <Snifff> plz help
[13:19] <Snifff> alert
[13:19] <Snifff> i have an new HD hp 4hitachi
[13:19] <rww> VistaUser: Oh, I see what you mean. For most people, Ubuntu is great. As ikonia said, though, it's a personal preference thing. I love Ubuntu, Debian, Arch, and Fedora, in roughly that order.
[13:19] <ikonia> Snifff: could you try to explain that again please.
[13:19] <lorenzosu> I try to change wav files from the default movie player to vlc using "open with"... works for one particular file but when I double click on another it still opens in movie player
[13:19] <Snifff> i have a noise on the level of the hard drive pricipal doubtless
[13:19] <VistaUser> is thre a program that allows me to create a virtual place were i can load up other OS of linux without going over this one
[13:20] <ikonia> Snifff: I'm sorry that doesn't make sense
[13:20] <generalsnus> what config file decide how and where a /home folder is created?
[13:20] <ikonia> !virtualization
[13:20] <bazhang> VistaUser, vbox
[13:20] <ikonia> Snifff: do you mean your harddisk is noisey ?
[13:20] <VistaUser> ok ty
[13:20] <potwak> where is a good place to start developing linux?
[13:20] <Snifff> i have a noise in the hardeware
[13:20] <Snifff> in my hard disk hiitachi
[13:20] <ikonia> potwak: pick a problem
[13:20] <bazhang> VistaUser, sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[13:20] <Snifff> in your opinion <hy?
[13:20] <Snifff> why!
[13:20] <maxbaldwin> VistaUser: I guess arch is pretty good. ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots
[13:20] <rww> Snifff: contact your hardware manufacturer. This is a support channel for the Ubuntu OS, not your hardware.
[13:21] <potwak> ikonia: what do ya mean?
[13:21] <VistaUser> ok
[13:21] <ikonia> potwak: pick an open source project and start
[13:21] <lesshaste> anyone got voip working (ignoring skype)?
[13:21] <Snifff> okey
[13:21] <barried> Hi all,
[13:21] <Snifff> do you have an channel support hardware!
[13:21] <VistaUser> i am up late tonight i want to test this OS
[13:21] <barried> where might I be able to ask questions about apache and subversion?
[13:21] <Snifff> HP
[13:21] <bazhang> ##hardware
[13:21] <ikonia> VistaUser: you have been given options
[13:21] <VistaUser> i know
[13:21] <Snifff> thnks people
[13:21] <potwak> ikonia: thanks, but i think i can also get some money for a living.
[13:22] <ikonia> potwak: that is nothing to do with #ubuntu
[13:22] <potwak> iknoia: ok. thanks
[13:23] <rww> barried: #svn for subversion. #apache for apache, I think, but I appear to be banned for that channel for some reason so I can't check
[13:23] <lorenzosu> I try to change wav files from the default movie player to vlc using "open with"... works for one particular file but when I double click on another it still opens in movie player
[13:23] <VistaUser> limewire works lool
[13:23] <bazhang> !frostwire | VistaUser
[13:24] <VistaUser> frostwire is better?
[13:25] <rww> VistaUser: it's free/open source software, and from what I've heard is somewhat quicker and less buggy than the Linux version of Limewire
[13:26] <VistaUser> oo kk
[13:26] <VistaUser> ty guys for all the help
[13:26] <wydd> Tried a lot of fixes suggested in launchpad but still no sound after resume from suspend in 8.10... what I am missing? Any know fix other than (shame) restart ?
[13:26] <Andrew``> ok.. also, suse will not play MP3s or videos out-of-the-box, will ubuntu?
[13:27] <rww> !mp3 | Andrew``
[13:27] <bazhang> Andrew``, install the codecs
[13:28] <lat_> Anything special need to be done to get a second LAN card to work on Ubuntu?
[13:28] <potwak> anyone knows a channel for perl?
[13:29] <rww> potwak: #perl
[13:29] <potwak> rww: thanks
[13:30] <Ongavezir> Sziasztok testverek
[13:30] <rww> Andrew``: To be a little more verbose, Ubuntu doesn't include mp3 codecs when first installed. If you try to play an mp3, it'll ask you if you want it to install them for you.
[13:30] <potwak> rww: nobody responds in #perl
[13:30] <hmw_lfs> does anyone know the symtom of a radeon 9600 in clone mode, where the second screen is yellowish?
[13:31] <rww> !hu | Ongavezir
[13:32] <rww> potwak: Be patient. There's over 500 people in there, so it's not like the channel is dead or anything ;-)
[13:32] <Andrew``> rww: wow thats cool
[13:32] <sken> hello
[13:32] <sken> how can i install fedora without modifying the partitions?
[13:32] <lorenzosu> I try to change wav files from the default movie player to vlc using "open with"... works for one particular file but when I double click on another it still opens in movie player
[13:33] <wydd> No sound after resume in 8.10. Tried several suggested workarounds but nothing works but restarting :-o
[13:33] <lat_> Is anyone else having trouble getting a mic to work with Ubuntu. I can hear sound but can't record.
[13:33] <rww> Andrew``: If you'd like a set of commonly-used non-free software, including mp3, flash, etc., you might also want to install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:33] <Ongavezir> Hozsanna testverek
[13:34] <mercutio22> hi. Where's the thrash folder in intrepid Ibex?
[13:34] <bazhang> !trash
[13:34] <bazhang> Ongavezir, english here
[13:34] <Ongavezir> okay
[13:35] <Ongavezir> please visit our new site: http://frugalware.tk
[13:35] <sken> how can i install fedora without modifying the partitions?
[13:36] <mercutio22> bazhang, thanks
[13:36] <potwak> rww: i think most people are busy on that channel. :=
[13:36] <bazhang> sken, ask in #fedora
[13:36] <potwak> =)
[13:36] <bazhang> Ongavezir, dont paste that here
[13:37] <Velocity219e> anyone give me some advice about motherboards and compatibility before I take the plunge and install ubuntu?
[13:38] <lorenzosu> how to switch directly to # desktop with compiz-fusion?
[13:38] <bastid_raZor> Velocity219e; try the LiveCD first. that will let you know how well your hardware will work.
[13:38] <bazhang> Velocity219e, check hcl
[13:38] <bazhang> !hcl
[13:38] <Velocity219e> I checked the supported hardware its not listed
[13:38] <Velocity219e> livecd, will do :)
[13:38] <bazhang> then the live cd too Velocity219e
[13:38] <Velocity219e> !hcl
[13:39] <generalsnus> .. i have one xubuntu computer that creates all users /home in capitals: /home/USERNAME  .. and another identical xubuntu computer that makes the home in small letters /home/username .... how can i make it so both creates /home dirs in small letters??
[13:39] <arun_> how to install matlab on ubuntu
[13:40] <potwak> run matlab.exe
[13:40] <potwak> just joking.. :)
[13:40] <arun_> does that run on wine
[13:40] <tripitakit> potwak, du you own a linux matlab version
[13:40] <tripitakit> ?
[13:40] <arun_> i'm talking about linux version of matlab
[13:40] <arun_> yes i have
[13:40] <potwak> no.
[13:40] <arun_>  the 3cd images are all what i have
[13:41] <Ongavezir> I am da TUXKILLAH!
[13:41] <bazhang> Ongavezir, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[13:41] <Ongavezir> http://freenode.tk
[13:41] <tripitakit> potwak, so u'd try under wine (dunno if it will work) or install a virtualbox xp and run it inside, seamleslly
[13:41] <Ongavezir> bazhang pofanbaszlak
[13:42] <wydd> No sound at all after resume... need some help, please.
[13:42] <potwak> arun: may be this would help, http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/linuxemu-matlab.html
[13:42] <arun_> let me look into that
[13:42] <Ongavezir> Where is the holy shit muterfucker fat ubuntu linux-penguin now?
[13:42] <bazhang> Ongavezir, please stop
[13:42] <potwak> tripitakit: i'm just kidding right there. :p
[13:42] <tripitakit> potwak, or try freemat, scilab, or octave
[13:42] <lorenzosu> how to switch directly to # desktop with compiz-fusion?
[13:43] <tripitakit> potwak, :) confuesd user sorry
[13:43] <potwak> hehe
[13:43] <tripitakit> arun_, u'd try freemat or scilab or octave too
[13:44] <tripitakit> lorenzosu, try alt-#
[13:44] <tripitakit> lorenzosu, anyway it is customizable in compiz sttings
[13:45] <arun_> thanks for information,i'll try and be back with queries if any
[13:45] <arun_> thanks to all of u
[13:45] <sken> any good themes for ubuntu?
[13:45] <arun_> You people r really very friendly n helpful
[13:45] <potwak> thank god there is a place like this. =)
[13:45] <tripitakit> arun_, this is ubuntu :)
[13:45] <lorenzosu> tripitakit, no not working... but can't find where to configure it I have the Desktop Wall plug in enabled..
[13:46] <tripitakit> lorenzosu, sorry i'm not using compiz since alot, cnat remember where is the setting
[13:46] <Velocity219e> so next Q since I may as well check while I'm here, its Linux Ext2 for bootable drives right?
[13:46] <arun_> ya,i'm e(xp)eriencing difference that xp can't provide
[13:46] <bastid_raZor> lorenzosu; #compiz-fusion may be of better help.
[13:46] <tripitakit> lorenzosu, mo lo cerco
[13:46] <tripitakit> ops
[13:47] <lorenzosu> bastid_raZor, Sure, tanks
[13:48] <potwak> bye all. thanks
[13:48] <tripitakit> lorenzosu, in Desktop, work area selection (selettore area di lavoro here)
[13:48] <lorenzosu> tripitakit, I have the English version ;)
[13:49] <Velocity219e> right wish me luck ^^
[13:49] <tripitakit> lorenzosu, ok, uìll find it in Desktop section of settings
[13:50] <tripitakit> lorenzosu, here is the last setting control of that section
[13:50] <tripitakit> lorenzosu, u'll find a "select area by number" tab (or similar name with same meaning)
[13:51] <lorenzosu> tripitakit, Ok got it... grande ;)
[13:51] <tripitakit> lorenzosu, di nulla
[13:51] <gasbag> i removed ruby with apt-get and later decided to reinstall it.  now there is no /usr/bin/ruby1.8 but there is a symlink installed.  any ideas?
[13:52] <wydd> Fellows, no sound at all after resume... lot's of posts in ubuntu foruns but nothing has worked... What am I missing?
[13:52] <tripitakit> gasbag, whre the symlink is point to?
[13:52] <tripitakit> *pointing
[13:52] <led> I am looking for the smallest footprint mp3 player for ubuntu
[13:52] <LjL> gasbag: what does "apt-cache policy ruby1.8" say
[13:53] <gasbag> tripitakit: it's pointing to ruby1.8 which isn't there
[13:53] <LjL> !xmms2 | led, this is probably small
[13:53] <LjL> led: (i meant xmms2 anyway)
[13:53] <tripitakit> led, audacity is small too
[13:53] <LjL> led: you could always get a rough idea by doing "apt-cache show <every mp3 player you can come up with> | grep Size"
[13:53] <LjL> !players > led    (led, see the private message from ubottu)
[13:54] <led> ty
[13:54] <gasbag> LjL: it claims that it is installed   Installed: 1.8.7.72-1ubuntu0.1
[13:55] <LjL> gasbag: well, /usr/bin/ruby1.8 definitely belongs to that package (at least on Hardy)... i don't know what could have gone wrong, but try "sudo apt-get --reinstall install ruby1.8"
[13:55] <fermuch> hi!
[13:55] <gasbag> LjL:  ok tnx i'll give it a try
[13:56] <lorenzosu> I try to change wavand mp3 filesin nautilus from the default movie player to vlc using "open with"... works for one particular file but when I double click on another it still opens in movie player
[13:56] <sken> with what programm can i make an iso file?
[13:56] <fermuch> alguien de argentina?
[13:56] <sken> i want to write an iso file to a cd
[13:56] <gasbag> LjL:  ah much better.  tnx!
[13:56] <fermuch> use brasero!
[13:56] <bastid_raZor> sken; k3b or brasero
[13:56] <lianimator> How can I make a windows XP computer see my Ubuntu shares?
[13:57] <tripitakit> lorenzosu, change the defautl multimedia app in preferred apps under system/prefernces
[13:57] <Andrew``> rww: can I run amarok in gnome?
[13:57] <tripitakit> lianimator, install anc configure samba
[13:58] <tripitakit> !samba | lianimator
[13:58] <tripitakit> Andrew``, yes, but u'd like exaile too! that is gtk and not qt
[13:58] <lorenzosu> tripitakit, No luck :/
[13:59] <lorenzosu> tripitakit, Maybe I have to restart gnome?
[13:59] <harlekin> !eee
[13:59] <tripitakit> lorenzosu, try restarting the session
[13:59] <lorenzosu> tripitakit, i.e. log out/re log in?
[14:00] <tripitakit> lorenzosu, yes or hit control-alt-backspace
[14:01] <lianimator> tripitakit: I think I have samba by default. using Ibex.
[14:01] <tripitakit> lorenzosu, do you know #ubuntu-it, dont you? ;)
[14:01] <central> gusty hardy intrepid ?   ubuntu8.10 is intrepid yes or not ?
[14:01] <afancy> Hi, is there any IE browser for Ubuntu? thanks
[14:01] <tripitakit> central, intrepid it is
[14:01] <central> ok
[14:01] <central> yhx
[14:01] <LjL> central: Gutsy Gibbon is 7.10, Hardy Heron is 8.04, Intrepid Ibex is 8.10
[14:01] <lianimator> afancy: there is no "IE" for ubuntu. but maybe try ies4linux
[14:02] <LjL> afancy, there are a lot of browsers for Ubuntu, why do you need IE specifically?
[14:02] <Andrew``> ok. will Firefox and Thunderbird work? also, what can I use to RIp and encode CD's/MP3s?
[14:02] <Pirate_Hunter> what is the equivalent of expression web in linux?
[14:02] <Tyrath> anyone got any tips on how to make wireless connect faster on boot?
[14:02] <jitu3485> hi I installed windows xp in sun vm machine which is over ubnutu 8.10, Now it is giving ReadError after grub stage1.5. what to do?
[14:02] <afancy> LjL: The netbank requirement IE
[14:03] <central> it look like many stuff dont work with intrepid ...//
[14:03] <hmw_lfs> !dns
[14:03] <arun_> suggest video editors like virtualdub for ubuntu intrepid
[14:03] <arun_> i have avidemux
[14:03] <LjL> afancy: that's unacceptable. you're paying for their net banking services, their limiting you to a single operating system and a single web browser is an insult, in my opinion. i'd complain.
[14:04] <LjL> !kompozer | Pirate_Hunter
[14:04] <central> stuff like vidalia or aircrack-ng.....
[14:04] <Andrew``> !nvidia
[14:04] <Pirate_Hunter> LjL, will look at it
[14:04] <shrini> is there any way for yahoo voice chat in ubuntu?
[14:04] <arun_> how to overclock nvidia geforce fx5500
[14:06] <arun_> hello shrini use wine and run the exe in linux
[14:06] <afancy> LjL: You can see here https://mybank.icbc.com.cn/icbc/enperbank/index.jsp
[14:06] <VistaUser> what is default display manager??? gdm or kdm
[14:06] <lianimator> shrini: change and use skype?
[14:07] <shrini> arun: does wine supports voice too?
[14:07] <Skry^> VistaUser, for gnome it's gdm, for kde it's kdm
[14:07] <LjL> afancy: i believe you. i am just saying that you should *complain to them* because of this absurd restriction.
[14:07] <arun_> for vista?? just joking,both gdm and kde
[14:07] <VistaUser> oo kk
[14:07] <LjL> !ies4linux > afancy    (afancy, see the private message from ubottu) in the meanwhile...
[14:07] <afancy> LjL: it is no way
[14:07] <arun_> voice, i'm not sure about it but wine supports media playback and recording
[14:08] <central> did the gusty distribution work with intrepid ??????
[14:08] <arun_> someone plz tell how 2 overclock nvidia cards on linux
[14:08] <bazhang> arun_, ask in a hardware channel
[14:08] <shrini> lianimator : is openwengo works well?
[14:08] <LjL> central: what does that question mean?
[14:09] <bazhang> arun ##hardware
[14:09] <lianimator> shrini: I don't know. I don't use IE anymore.
[14:09] <LjL> !info nvclock-gtk | arun_
[14:09] <central> i mean i need to install vivalia
[14:09] <LjL> arun_: use at your own risk. may destroy your card.
[14:09] <arun_> bazhang how 2 get in h.w channel
[14:09] <central> if i google it it come to gusty
[14:09] <peterloorke> hi!
[14:10] <arun_> just for expermin=entation,i won't put pressure on my card
[14:10] <johs-> is there any way to give users rights to apt-get apps (or possible auto apt-get them) without giving them sudo rights?
[14:10] <LjL> central: what is vivalia? got a URL?
[14:10] <arun_> Bye  I'll be back soon
[14:10] <LjL> johs-: no
[14:10] <LjL> johs-: you could do two things, however
[14:10] <central> http://www.vidalia-project.net/
[14:10] <peterloorke> blinking screen problem in intrepid is a general bug right? I mean I am not the only one (:
[14:11] <LjL> johs-: first you could *give* them sudo access, but restricted to the apt-get command (still, does that make sense? if they're able to install and remove apps, they can break the whole system at will)
[14:11] <LjL> johs-: or, you could create a cronjob that installs anything listed in, say, /home/USER/install-requests
[14:11] <central> well it work on hardy on gusty but don't work on intrepid
[14:12] <LjL> johs-: even in that case, it's clearly a security risk, mind!
[14:12] <LjL> central: ah, vidalia, not vivalia
[14:12] <central> yes sorry
[14:12] <johs-> LjL: I like the second idea
[14:13] <johs-> LjL: yes, it's a security risk, but it is not extremly hard to reason about. a lot easier than creating an app to do the same at least
[14:13] <johs-> thanks
[14:13] <LjL> johs-: yes, it would also allow you to use a cron script with some "smarts", for instance you could make it give up immediately in case the required actions would result in *removal* of packages or other nasties
[14:14] <central> so do you have a source for vidalia for intrepid ?
[14:14] <central> i find one but it don't work
[14:15] <LjL> johs-: consider using the "--trivial-only" option of apt-get, specifically
[14:15] <LjL> johs-: and "--no-remove", which is listed after that in the manpage
[14:15] <tarvo> Hi, does any one here have Creative Labs SB X-Fi audio controller?
[14:15] <tarvo> and got it working
[14:16] <johs-> LjL: will do. thanks
[14:16] <LjL> central: i'm not sure, but are you sure you need vidalia that badly? tor+privoxy can be installed rather easily in Ubuntu, even without a GUI
[14:16] <central> yes but i can not select the country
[14:16] <LjL> central: what do you mean?
[14:17] <central> so i need a tools like vidalia and i dont want to use tork
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[14:17] <Nybob> does anyone have an hp photomart 7960 and are able to get it to work on 8.10?
[14:17] <central> i have tor and privoxy well configured
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> Nybob: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PhotoSmart_7960
[14:18] <central> i can use it like that but i like to use vidalia
[14:18] <obank> oiiiiiiiiiii
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> obank: sup?
[14:19] <LjL> central: https://launchpad.net/~e-stealth/+archive/+files/vidalia_0.1.8-0ubuntu1~ppa2_i386.deb (COMPLETELY unguaranteed package)
[14:19] <Nybob> I went through all that with the latest drivers etc still did not work
[14:19] <central> or i got an other problem with aircrack-ng
[14:19] <Nybob> was on that page
[14:19] <Nybob> prints half way then quits
[14:19] <strygies> re
[14:20] <hedin> hi, is there a ubuntu edition of http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ ?
[14:20] <alexi5> for a Ubuntu system that will be used to virtualise two operation systems (Solaris 10 and windows xp) on linux does the number of cores in the CPU significantly affect the performance of the virtual machines ?
[14:20] <LjL> !offtopic | hedin
[14:21] <joaopinto> alexi5, if you will be performing CPU intenseive tasks on the VMs, yes
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Nybob: https://answers.launchpad.net/hplip/+question/38332
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Nybob: scroll to the bottom few posts
[14:21] <Nybob> heh was there as well and left a question
[14:21] <obank> ooooooooooooo
[14:21] <joaopinto> alexi5, just the same way it would affect on real systems
[14:21] <Nybob> which has gone unanswered to date :)
[14:21] <hedin> LjL, is it OT to ask about (hopefully) a ubuntu feature here??
[14:22]  * Panarchy says Hi
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Nybob: are you a member of the lp group?
[14:22] <Panarchy> Does anyone here know anything about router command line?
[14:22] <Nybob> yes
[14:22] <alexi5> ok
[14:22] <Nybob> as i believe so
[14:22] <lianimator> when I right click on a folder and click sharing options, is it the same as samba.
[14:22] <Panarchy> Nybob: Sorry, were you answering my question?
[14:22] <Panarchy> Does anyone here know anything about router command line?
[14:22] <Nybob> no sorry
[14:22] <Panarchy> ok
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Nylwell the post says to add yourself, hence me giving you the link
[14:23] <Nybob> I am a novice at best :)
[14:23] <Panarchy> Well... does anyone here know anything about router command line?
[14:23] <Cybertinus> Panarchy: which router?
[14:23] <Panarchy> just general commands
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Nybob: as long as you can read you are pro
[14:24] <Panarchy> I am trying to work out the router equivalent of the clear (or for windows users cls) command
[14:24] <Panarchy> (or for Perl users system clear)
[14:24] <Nybob> heheheh well i love my ubuntu  linux so i am persistant :)
[14:24] <obank> 0000000000000
[14:24] <obank> [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[
[14:24] <FloodBot3> obank: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:24] <LjL> hedin: on-topic for this channel are Ubuntu technical support questions and answer, everything else is not
[14:24] <obank> uuuuuuuuuuu]
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Nybob: hp.com recommends this site: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/gethplip.html
[14:25] <LjL> obank: stop
[14:25] <Panarchy> CyberTinus: Can you help me out?
[14:25] <alexi5> one other thing i am building a system for which i will be doing some development work  which Ubuntu as my host OS.I don't plan on upgrading this system for at least 6 years. Solaris and Windows XP virtualized, at this current time which CPU would be best to get a quad core intel (q6600) or a AMD Quad core (phenom 9950)?
[14:25] <Nybob> i am going to go back and check that lp again and that site
[14:26] <hedin> LjL, okay, bye
[14:26] <Cybertinus> Panarchy: well, every router is different, so if I don't know on which router you are working on, I don't know if I can help you :) (or I must completly misunderstand you)
[14:26] <Panarchy> I am trying to work out the router equivalent of the clear (or for windows users cls) command, for Perl users the: system clear command, for IRC user the /clear command. What I wish to learn is whatever the command is to clear the screen on router command-line.
[14:26] <Nybob> that last site is where i got the latest drivers :) still i am missing something
[14:26] <Nybob> so i am going to check that lp thing
[14:26] <Nybob> i must be missing something there
[14:27] <Nybob> it should work
[14:27] <n8tuser> Panarchy -> cls is only clearing your display window, that does not mean it cleans out your router rules or configs
[14:27] <Panarchy> I am trying to work out the router equivalent of the clear command (Linux/Unix), for windows users the cls command, for Perl users the: system clear command, for IRC user the /clear command. What I wish to learn is whatever the command is to clear the screen on router command-line.
[14:27] <Panarchy> n8tuser: I am not trying to clear out any rules, configs or logs
[14:28] <Panarchy> n8tuser: I am just trying to clear what is viewable on the screen
[14:28] <Panarchy> To clear up my screen
[14:28] <Panarchy> getting rid of past command history (that is viewable)
[14:28] <Panarchy> and
[14:28] <Panarchy> things like
[14:28] <Panarchy> What's the command to clear the screen?
[14:28] <n8tuser> tput clear
[14:28] <FloodBot3> Panarchy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:28] <Panarchy> sorry
[14:28] <Panarchy> things like
[14:29] <Panarchy> Self decompressing the image :
[14:29] <Panarchy> ########################################################################## [OK]
[14:29] <latouche> hi, is there already someone packaging navit for ubuntu ?
[14:29] <latouche> I found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/276309
[14:29] <latouche> if their is no one, i could be interested
[14:29] <latouche> *there
[14:30] <Nybob> i have lpadmin in my users file under my account
[14:30] <latouche> (i am the one behind http://navit.latouche.info/ubuntu/)
[14:30] <Nybob> that should cover the lp?
[14:32] <chairman_> anyone knows how to cnfigure evolution or claws w/Gmail
[14:33] <central> thx LjL you are the best... :)
[14:33] <Nybob> under users lpadmin should give you access to the printers functions?
[14:33] <latouche> chairman_: gmail works with pops
[14:33] <Xang> chairman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[14:34] <chairman_> what about Claws?..the reason i asked because i can't get none of my mail
[14:35] <zeber> I need some help with printing to a Windows Network with samba
[14:37] <corv> @zebra: Could you give some more detail?
[14:37] <Cybertinus> *jeej*
[14:37] <novato_br> is this on the videoclipe a free software ? ==> http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?swf=http%3A//s.ytimg.com/yt/swf/cps-vfl66122.swf&video_id=CR3tQmxrPo8&rel=1&showsearch=1&eurl=&iurl=http%3A//i4.ytimg.com/vi/CR3tQmxrPo8/hqdefault.jpg&sk=GmGKpWvSkbFN0DiAHXJKGF29aRxjc8xPC&use_get_video_info=1&load_modules=1&fs=1&hl=en
[14:37] <Cybertinus> I installed Ubuntu on a GPT partition table :D
[14:37] <tarvo> Hi, I have a problem to get my onboard soundcard to work correctly, I have  Abit IX38 QuadGT motherboard with ATI Technologies Inc HD48x0 audio (from lspci) audio device. from where I should start to look for drivers to get such card working in my system?
[14:38] <Cybertinus> it even boots from it :D
[14:39] <corv>  @zeber: Could you give some more detail?
[14:39] <bazhang> Cybertinus, do you have a support question?
[14:39] <zeber> corv srry..just trying now to find the printer
[14:39] <Cybertinus> bazhang: no, actually I don't :). I'm just happy I pulled it off :)
[14:39] <zeber> corv: I have a big Windows Network with a Print Server and a PC iwht Ubuntu
[14:40] <bazhang> Cybertinus, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[14:40] <zeber> corv: I put the Domain name/server:port number/Printer in Samba but cannot connect
[14:40] <Cybertinus> bazhang: ah, sry. Will go there then :)
[14:41] <pip> 2.I need to organise all my .out files , .c files at seperate places
[14:41] <pip> i.e i need to send all .out files at one dir and .c at other dir during the compiling and running on terminal.
[14:41] <central> it is not easy to crack wifi ... :)
[14:41] <pip> i.e i need to send all .out files at one dir and .c at other dir during the compiling and running on terminal.
[14:41] <DIFH-iceroot> central: if it is not WEP, yes
[14:41] <bazhang> central, /j #aircrack
[14:42] <Ohmu> pip, during or after?
[14:42] <pip> during
[14:42] <central> do you have any goot howto ?
[14:42] <DIFH-iceroot> central: google
[14:42] <bazhang> central, no, not here
[14:42] <Piepschuim> [15:11] <LjL> johs-: or, you could create a cronjob that installs anything listed in, say, /home/USER/install-requests
[14:42] <Piepschuim> [15:11] <central> well it work on hardy on gusty but don't work on intrepid
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[14:42] <Piepschuim> [15:11] <LjL> johs-: even in that case, it's clearly a security risk, mind!
[14:42] <pip> ohmu,during
[14:42] <FloodBot3> Piepschuim: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:42] <Piepschuim> [15:12] <LjL> central: ah, vidalia, not vivalia
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[14:43] <corv> Ok. Give me a moment...
[14:43] <pip> i.e i need to send all .out files at one dir and .c at other dir during the compiling and running on terminal.
[14:43] <zeber> corv: ok..thank you I'll wait
[14:43] <n8tuser> pip -> look into using Makefile to organize such
[14:44] <dude``> hello, i have a question regarding FUSE, can anyone help
[14:44] <corv> Zeber, did you try putting smb:// in front of the print server's ip?
[14:44] <central> i want to crack a wap ... any good howto ?
[14:44] <pip> n8tuser..i m sorry but ididnt got u
[14:44] <bazhang> central, not here
[14:44] <bazhang> central, that is offtopic here please stop
[14:44] <joaopinto> !ot | central
[14:44] <n8tuser> pip -> google for this   makefile+cofigure+automake
[14:44] <zeber> corv: I tried through System --> Administration --> Printing
[14:45] <zeber> corv: I choosed New Printer --> then add through smb://
[14:46] <lianimator> how do I make conky NOT hide when I show desktop?
[14:46] <corv> I see. Does it show up when you click browse?
[14:46] <zeber> corv: On the print server I have at least 400 Printers all of them with a dedicated IP address
[14:46] <zeber> corv: No it doesn't show up when I browse them
[14:47] <Skaag> is there a kill more powerful than -9?
[14:47] <zeber> corv: The Print server have Authentification but I have Admin rights on the print server
[14:47] <Skaag> I have zombie processes without parents that I can't kill
[14:47] <]{53> Skaag: reboot?
[14:47] <Skaag> what about without a reboot...? :)
[14:48] <\slash> hey guys im having a problem with my laptop where when i unplug jack speakers i dont hear laptop speakers but today for some reason the laptop speakers worked on startup then it doesnt work  now its back to the way it was.. no sound unless jack speakers are plugged in
[14:48] <\slash> how can i solve this problem
[14:48] <LjL> Skaag: no, there isn't. when a process is hung on I/O, it can't be killed easily
[14:48] <Skaag> hmm :(
[14:48] <Skaag> now I have to travel to my server farm
[14:48] <corv> Hmm.. On the first screen of the Printer config applet, there is a set of check boxes. is "Show printers shared by other systems" checked?
[14:48] <Skaag> what about severing a pipe it's using?
[14:49] <LjL> Skaag, the good news is that a zombie process won't really use any resources...
[14:49] <Skaag> I see using lsof that it's using a pipe
[14:49] <LjL> Skaag: that might work
[14:49] <corv> zeber: Hmm.. On the first screen of the Printer config applet, there is a set of check boxes. is "Show printers shared by other systems" checked?
[14:49] <zeber> corv: Yes on Settings that is tick
[14:49] <Skaag> how do I kill a certain pipe?
[14:49] <LjL> Skaag: well, you can kill the process on the other side of the pipe, if any...
[14:50] <n8tuser> LjL if a zombie were using inodes, file descriptors and such, i dont think it gets released, so they still maybe using those resources
[14:50] <corv> zeber: What version of windows server is the print server running?
[14:50] <zeber> corv: Windows Server 2003
[14:50] <LjL> n8tuser: that is true, i was mostly thinking about hardware resources - namely CPU
[14:51] <paranoid_ndroid> I have no midi playback in Ibex
[14:51] <LjL> !midi | paranoid_ndroid
[14:51] <n8tuser> LjL i agree, no more cpu access so it cant use that resource
[14:51] <zeber> corv: When I put up the Printer Coniguration box it says down: Connected to localhost
[14:51] <zeber> corv: Is that right or wrong to be connected to localhost?
[14:52] <corv> zeber: Does the applet actually create the printer in your list, or does it throw out some kind of error?
[14:52] <Jimmymaniac> Hi. Quick question: What's the process to manually (meaning, not with "apt-get source") to download and recompile a package? i mean, you get 3 files, a .dsc, a .diff and a .tar.gz. apt gets them all for you and patches it so you can do the ./debian/rules thing. What's the manual process for that?
[14:52] <zeber> corv : If I add the printer it creates the applet but it cannot connect to the printer
[14:53] <zeber> corv: it says in the first place: Idle and then Error: cannot connect
[14:53] <Jimmymaniac> i wanna get a package from jaunty and recompile it in intrepid, but dunno what's the manual process
[14:53] <LjL> Jimmymaniac, uh, you merely download those three files manually, with wget or something...
[14:53] <jamey-uk> I upgraded my VPS from hardy to intrepid, everything went fine except it now hangs on "Starting kernel log daemon..." How can I fix this?
[14:53] <corv> zeber are you chatting from the ubuntu system, or on another machine.
[14:53] <LjL> Jimmymaniac: why would you have to do that manually?
[14:53] <zeber> I'm chatting from a Windows machine
[14:54] <nAhIaN> Hei Guys I'm Home !!!
[14:54] <LjL> Jimmymaniac: i've often recompiled packages for the next version of ubuntu, never had a reason to do it manually
[14:55] <corv> zeber: Please don't be insulted, but does the ubuntu box have connectivity?
[14:55] <Jimmymaniac> LjL: So, what's the process then? I know how to do it with the current version ("apt-get source whatever" -> "cd whatever" -> ":/debian/rules binary") but dunno with the next version
[14:55] <zeber> corv: Yes I can connect to Internet...everything looks fine...If I connect a printer manually through USB it's fine It's detecting...
[14:56] <\slash> hey guys im having a problem with my laptop where when i unplug jack speakers i dont hear laptop speakers but today for some reason the laptop speakers worked on startup then it doesnt work  now its back to the way it was.. no sound unless jack speakers are plugged in
[14:56] <\slash> i heard the  ubuntu login and startup sounds
[14:56] <\slash> but music/video nothing
[14:57] <LjL> Jimmymaniac: just add the source line of Jaunty *temporarily* to /etc/apt/sources.list, then "sudo apt-get update". also, you don't really need to call "rules" manually. if you don't need to modify anything, this is all that's needed: * add the jaunty source repository to /etc/apt/sources.list * sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install build-essential * sudo apt-get build-dep <packagename> * sudo apt-get --build source <packagename>
[14:57] <LjL> Jimmymaniac: then you can install the resulting binary .deb, and remove the line from sources.loist
[14:57] <Jimmymaniac> LjL: Great! let's try it then :)
[14:58] <corv> zeber: It's sounds like a samba issue. (which is not my strong suit). can you set up a direct connection to the printer via JetDirect/IP as a temporary workaround?
[14:58] <LjL> Jimmymaniac: note, do NOT add any binary Jaunty repository to sources.list, ONLY add the deb-src (source) line
[14:59] <MaximLevitsky> Can I connect to L2TP network with network manger?
[14:59] <MaximLevitsky> If yes how?
[14:59] <MaximLevitsky> I only have a password
[14:59] <zeber> corv: do you mean through AppSocket/Hp Direct?
[15:00] <corv> zeber: yep
[15:01] <zeber> corv: I tried but with no success... After I read many papers about this some people rekon that the only thing to do in this case is to try via Samba
[15:02] <zeber> corv: do you know any tutoials txt. or video of someone who succed to connect via Samba to a Print server?
[15:03] <morningwalker> internet connection with static ip sounds impossible in ubuntu 8.10
[15:03] <morningwalker> how bad could this get?
[15:03] <corv> zeber: Really?! with the IP of the printer itself?
[15:03] <corv> zeber: I'm looking
[15:04] <Don_Rad> hi all
[15:04] <morningwalker> can someone send me a TUT with pictures which could evidently help me out with getting a internet connection on ubuntu 8.10 for a static ip address
[15:04] <zeber> corv: Yes I put the Reserved IP address of the Printer, Port Number, Correct Driver
[15:04] <morningwalker> !static ip
[15:04] <Jimmymaniac> LjL: Perfect! :)
[15:05] <Trooper2008> hi all
[15:05] <Trooper2008> !it
[15:05] <Jimmymaniac> LjL: Thanks :)
[15:05] <morningwalker> !internet connection
[15:05] <Trooper2008> i have a problem who is the actual helper?
[15:05] <LjL> !fishing | morningwalker
[15:05] <Don_Rad> !es
[15:05] <LjL> !ask | Trooper2008
[15:05] <MaximLevitsky> How can I connect to L2TP?
[15:05] <losetheshizzle> happy turkey day ubuntu peeps
[15:05] <maxbaldwin> you too losetheshizzle
[15:06] <lsolesen> i just put a pcmcia card in my computer with firewire, and connected a sony handycam to it.
[15:06] <morningwalker> !internet
[15:06] <lsolesen> when doing lspci it seems it has recognised the card.
[15:06] <morningwalker> !Internet
[15:06] <st3ph> lol
[15:06] <jamey-uk> I upgraded my VPS from hardy to intrepid, everything went fine except it now hangs on "Starting kernel log daemon..." How can I fix this?
[15:06] <losetheshizzle> thanks maxbaldwin
[15:06] <corv> Hey can anyone help zeber? He's trying to connect to a printer managed through Windows server 2003. I've tried to help, but not having much success. He also cannot seem to connect directly to the printer via AppSocket/JetDirect.
[15:06] <macbrain> eaeeee
[15:07] <Trooper2008> thanx ok problem n1 my wifi works perfect my usb key on 8.10 but from 6 mb i go down to 4 3 mb so much slower vs xp that was from 8 mb to 6 2 problem where does it tell me the installed usb device so when i remove it i don't risk to burn the usb wifi key LjL?
[15:07] <zeber> corv: It's adding the printer with the IP trying to connect to the printer but has the message that the printer cannot connect. I'm assuming it's happening because in this case I didn't put credentials
[15:07] <Administrator> h
[15:07] <maxbaldwin> is google chrome on Ubuntu?
[15:07] <maxbaldwin> or is it windows?
[15:07] <LjL> Trooper2008: the lack of punctuation is making my head spin.
[15:07] <lsolesen> however, i am not able to access /dev/raw1394, and I suspect it is because it is not accessed there, as it is through the pcmcia card
[15:07] <losetheshizzle> so last night, i was able to fix a bunch of the problems i have.. i only have one left maybe someone knows about:  when booting, i have to hold down the space bar while it's loading in order to make it go forward.. when starting in recovery mode, i see that it is looking at the hardware when this happens.. any ideas?
[15:07] <LjL> maxbaldwin: Windows only, for now.
[15:07] <corv> zeber: Sorry, friend. I'm stumped and out of time.
[15:07] <maxbaldwin> ok LjL.
[15:07] <macbrain> humm
[15:07]  * Administrator changes mode to +J
[15:08] <Trooper2008> sorry LjL im not good with punctuation and comas but improoving can you able to solve my 2 problems?
[15:08]  * Administrator banned +macbrain
[15:08] <macbrain> oxi
[15:08] <morningwalker> !internet
[15:08] <TheBlasphemer> I have a file that's mounted as ext2, is there any way I can enlarge this file to allow me to put more data on it ?
[15:08] <zeber> corv: Thx... I try to get away from Windows but I need to stick with it because this Printer problem it's creating problems
[15:08] <LjL> Administrator: what exactly do you think you're doing...?
[15:08] <maxbaldwin> morningwalker  :|
[15:08]  * Mustinet selam
[15:08] <macbrain> q porra e essa? quer me ban
[15:08] <Administrator> any hacker channels in Ubuntu server irc?
[15:08] <LjL> !br | macbrain
[15:08] <macbrain> humm blz
[15:09] <LjL> Administrator: we're not a directory service, ask #freenode
[15:09] <morningwalker> maxbaldwin; hey dude, i need help with configuring my internet connection for ubuntu 8.10
[15:09] <Trooper2008> my problem n1 is that from 8 mb i go down to 4 ,3 mb wifi speed , xp where from 8 mb i went down to about 7 , 2 problem nothing tells me that my wifi usb key is installed like it did on xp why so ? couse i need to know LjL to not burn my key when i remove it from usb hole .
[15:10] <maxbaldwin> well don't play with the bot, morningwalker, just ask the question.
[15:10] <Trooper2008> vs xp *
[15:10] <Trooper2008> is it clear now LjL?
[15:10] <maxbaldwin> morningwalker: The bot only knows 1's and 0's, we know a little more. ask us.
[15:10] <Trooper2008> i don't know if the speed has to do with lockit plus my modem router firewall as i set lockit to tight security
[15:11] <morningwalker> maxbaldwin; get to the point now, i need a internet connection for ubuntu 8.10 WIRED, STATIC IP
[15:11] <Trooper2008> you still here LjL?
[15:11] <LjL> Trooper2008, i'm not very familiar with WiFi. however, a WiFi USB key will suffer no harm if you remove it. that's only a problem with *memory* keys.
[15:12] <Trooper2008> so why does xp has the option to safe unplug so you don't burn stuff when you remove it LjL btw isen't it strange 8.10 dosen't tell you what device is pluged usb vs all other linux distros ?
[15:12] <paranoid_ndroid> now I can play mid files but can't get tuxguitar to make a sound
[15:12] <Trooper2008> i mean i would like it to reconise my usb devises and give me the safe unplug option as it did on older versions or other distros so how can i fix?
[15:13] <]{53> Trooper2008: The equivalent would be to unmount the device.
[15:13] <LjL> Trooper2008, i don't have 8.10, but my 8.04 definitely *does* tell me that a USB device is plugged, *if* it's a memory card. if it's not a memory card, it does not matter.
[15:14] <Trooper2008> yes so you advise me LjL to downgrade to 8.04 as 8.10 seems much buggy?
[15:14] <LjL> Trooper2008: ... no
[15:14] <Trooper2008> couse i can't have a distro that dosen't tell of usb devices lol
[15:14] <LjL> Trooper2008: you've still only talked about your WiFi key
[15:14] <LjL> Trooper2008: have you tried with a *memory* key?
[15:15] <Trooper2008> you know how to fix this as even the most crappy linuxbsd distros tell you usb devices and have safe unplug
[15:15] <n8tuser> Trooper2008 -> what made you decide to go to 8.10 upgrade anways?
[15:15] <Trooper2008> not yet as i dont' have one yet
[15:15] <LjL> Trooper2008: then i'm saying that THERE IS NO REASON to have any safe unplug function
[15:15] <Trooper2008> n8tuser:  i fought it was stable so what you advise n8tuser?
[15:15] <LjL> that is ONLY NEEDED FOR MEMORY DEVICES
[15:15] <n8tuser> Trooper2008 -> it probably have those features to, you just have to do your own homework of searching via google, instead of whining here
[15:16] <Trooper2008> im not wineing i fought it was help support room but thanx
[15:16] <n8tuser> Trooper2008 -> yes you are whining, go ahead and use google to search for the info you need
[15:16] <LjL> !google
[15:16] <Trooper2008> LjL well ill soon get apple mp3 and smarthphone so if it dosen't reconise the devices i will downgrade to 8.04 then
[15:17] <Trooper2008> is 8.04 more stable btw LjL?
[15:17] <Acedip> is this a correct menu.lst file, i have added the ubuntu entry .. http://pastebin.com/m47c7e8c2
[15:17] <LjL> Trooper2008: good, until then, don't assume things randomly. try, and *then* see.
[15:17] <LjL> Trooper2008: probably, since it's been around for longer.
[15:17] <Trooper2008> ok but wich is the actual more stable ubuntu now?
[15:18] <LjL> Trooper2008: hard to tell.
[15:18] <LjL> Trooper2008: 8.04 is long term supported.
[15:18] <sebastian> hello can anyone help me? -.-*
[15:18] <LjL> !ask
[15:18] <genii> Trooper2008: LTS releases are generally more stable than interim releases. So 8.04
[15:18] <Trooper2008> you advise a downgrade genii?
[15:19] <n8tuser> Trooper2008 -> you have to learn confidence on yourself, decide for yourself :P
[15:19] <genii> Trooper2008: If your 8.04 ran well but 8.10 does not, then perhaps. But if only minor annoyances and not major issues with 8.10 then keep it
[15:19] <sebastian> when i install my graphiccard i can't change to 800x600
[15:19] <devil> Hello! Does anyone knows how to compile or cross compile openoffice?
[15:20] <drevan_> man i got so drunk last night
[15:21] <Trooper2008> have any of you found the solution to the site mebeam that allows any webcam and os to create a video audio pvt room click and go ? couse i did try anything with it flashcam 1.2 my camera that works fine on ubuntu drivers etc etc but when i go to the site i see my cam all red does anyone of you have 8.10 with cam and can tell me if they able to get cam working on mebeam?
[15:21] <sebastian> Iirgendeiner deutsch hier?
[15:21] <genii> !de | sebastian
[15:21] <Trooper2008> the question goes to LjL n8tuser  too
[15:22] <n8tuser> Trooper2008 -> i dont have a webcam
[15:22] <Trooper2008> anyone familiar with mebeam?
[15:22] <ne2k__> can anyone recommend a mid-priced SATA hardware RAID card that is known to work well with Ubuntu 8.04? including userland tools for reporting on the status of the array, rebuilding disks, etc.
[15:22] <antiq> Всем привет. Доброго времени суток!
[15:22] <Trooper2008> n8tuser:  what does 8.10 have more then 8.04 ? couse for now it's usefull that everything is auto even when i miss a driver codec etc etc does 8.04 have same automatism?
[15:23] <LjL> Trooper2008: i don't do much video conferencing, but if i did, i'd probably tend to use open protocols like SIP (with Ekiga, for instance) rather than some site on the web
[15:23] <LjL> !ru | antiq
[15:23] <Trooper2008> cam Ekiga run yahoo msn ,icq and aim LjL ?
[15:23] <Trooper2008> as i don't know how it works
[15:23] <n8tuser> Trooper2008 -> am on gutsy still, no need for me to upgrade to 8.10
[15:23] <Trooper2008> but my cam works fine there
[15:23] <LjL> Trooper2008: no. it's a SIP client, it runs with SIP servers.
[15:24] <LjL> Trooper2008: for yahoo, MSN and ICQ, you can use Pidgin for instance.
[15:24] <Trooper2008> yes but has no audio video for all 4 so this is why mebeam is the best couse has plugin to invite user to a private room audio video but dosen't seem to work with linux well
[15:25] <Trooper2008> sadely we don't have still a program that has mic and video for msn and yahoo icq aim apart kopete that has just video for msn and yahoo LjL the sad limitations of linux
[15:25] <Trooper2008> apart this btw it has everything for my home use
[15:25] <ralph> can anyone suggest a googly alternative to ms accses?
[15:26] <ralph> access rather?
[15:26] <NotADJ> OO.O db?
[15:26] <LjL> Trooper2008: those are neither sad nor limitation. they only are so for people who insist on using proprietary (and sometimes secret) protocols.
[15:26] <heinrich> !ro
[15:26] <ralph> NotADJ, online?
[15:26] <sebastian> i need some help
[15:26] <Trooper2008> well people like to be social im not a purisit and now days everyone needs mic and cam on msn yahoo they are the most used so it's a bit limitation
[15:26] <Trooper2008> big*
[15:27] <sebastian> -.-
[15:27] <Trooper2008> i must get this mebeam to work couse if they make linux plugin we solved our problems
[15:27] <Trooper2008> remeber purist are the death fo linuxbsd
[15:27] <LjL> good luck. i'm happy with SIP, myself.
[15:27] <Trooper2008> couse they see just their needs
[15:27] <sebastian> when i install my graphiccard i can't change to 800x600
[15:27] <Trooper2008> and don't want to keep step with windows
[15:28] <LjL> Trooper2008, stay on topic please
[15:28] <PatrickMello> Hello Masters!
[15:28] <PatrickMello> have any small java package to install on Ubuntu like as MSJVM ??? thanks for any help!
[15:28] <Trooper2008> ok
[15:28] <newb101> hey room. anyone possibly know why I have no sound? alsa .. snd-intel8x0?
[15:28] <drevan_> how is xgnome any better than xchat
[15:28] <LjL> !java | PatrickMello
[15:28] <drevan_> this looks exactly the smae
[15:28] <LjL> drevan_: "xgnome"?
[15:28] <drevan_> back in the 6.06 days i used to have alsa problems all the time
[15:29] <drevan_> the frontend for xchat
[15:29] <LjL> drevan_: you mean xchat-gnome then?
[15:29] <LjL> drevan_: and who said it was "better"?
[15:29] <Trooper2008> btw LjL does 8.04 have same automatism for codecs etc etc then 8.10 ? as here it auto installs if im missing some driver codec update etc etc
[15:29] <drevan_> yes, sorry
[15:29] <erUSUL> drevan_: xchat gnome has a simplified interace so some people find it easier
[15:29] <LjL> Trooper2008: 8.10 might have more of them, but 8.04 also has a few
[15:29] <drevan_> no one, i just assumed
[15:29] <Trooper2008> !it
[15:29] <Trooper2008> ok
[15:29] <sebastian> biste deutsch?
[15:29] <drevan_> i mean, why make a frontend if it isnt better
[15:29] <LjL> !de | sebastian
[15:29] <drevan_> and easier to use
[15:30] <PatrickMello> thanks ubottu... I'll try...
[15:30] <Trooper2008> btw thanx for help can you explain what this ekiga does then is there anyway to chat with msn yahoo icq or aim users using different sip servers they use i mean emulate ?
[15:30] <LjL> drevan_: xchat-gnome is more adherent to the GNOME interface guidelines, and is consistent with other GNOME programs. that's its advantage
[15:30] <drevan_> oh i see
[15:30] <LjL> Trooper2008: i don't know of any SIP "gateways" to network like ICQ or MSN, but i can't exclude they exist.
[15:30] <newb101> anyone? not having voice in this thing sucks, seems to see the module, i can modprobe it etc, just no sound? is it worth trying oss4?
[15:30] <drevan_> it looks like it is
[15:31] <Trooper2008> so who you chat with when you use it LjL is it like skype more or less?
[15:31] <Jimmymaniac> Hi. Quick question: i upgraded to intrepid, and since then there's something weird happening to the titlebars. They look like they're unfocused until i alt-tab to something else and back, or i pass the mouse close to the maximize/close buttons. It's not damaging, but it's a bit annoying. Ideas?
[15:31] <LjL> Trooper2008: however, Ekiga doesn't really support *text* messaging, i fear
[15:31] <Jimmymaniac> I suspect it has something to do with compiz, but dunno
[15:31] <sebastian> -.-* keiner deutsch? o.O
[15:31] <LjL> Trooper2008: it's similar to Skype, but it's not tied to a *single* server (although Ekiga does offer its own server)
[15:32] <Trooper2008> i see so to use it another person must have it it's limitated to linuxbsd users more or less i understand
[15:32] <LjL> Trooper2008: no
[15:32] <Jimmymaniac> google only comes up with that old bug where titlebars disappeared, but that's not the case now.
[15:33] <LjL> Trooper2008: there are *many* (very many) SIP clients for Windows
[15:33] <Trooper2008> so how you invite people who don't have it to use it?
[15:33] <Trooper2008> a
[15:33] <dekkard> any reason why brasero wont let me burn a vcd on intrepid?
[15:33] <nb1> While trying to get software working with wine 1.1.9, my sound quit working in all applications. Rebooting hasn't solved anything, and when I try "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" I don't even get static. I know my speakers still work, and they are hooked up correctly. I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 32-bit. Can anyone suggest what I should do or look for?
[15:33] <riaal> I want to add my own path like $HOME, any suggestions?
[15:33] <joaopinto> riaal, edit your ~/.bashrc
[15:33] <Trooper2008> btw i will register to mebeam forums now and keep pushing the makers for a linux plugin
[15:33] <Trooper2008> so we finaly solve our msn yahoo icq aim problems
[15:33] <riaal> joaopinto:  tried, doesn't work like I want to
[15:33] <Trooper2008> they might do it they say
[15:33] <LjL> Trooper2008: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SIP_software
[15:34] <riaal> third part programs can't access it
[15:34] <joaopinto> riaal, what are you tring to achieve ? .bashrc will work for everything that is user related
[15:34] <Jimmymaniac> Trooper2008: a quick look whows that ekiga works on windows too
[15:34] <Jimmymaniac> *shows
[15:34] <maxbaldwin> nb1: "sudo apt-get remove wine && sudo apt-get autoremove" then see if your sound works
[15:34] <riaal> joakim`: joaopinto, not so sure, think its shell related?
[15:34] <joaopinto> riaal, are you using bash ? echo $SHELL ?
[15:35] <riaal> joaopinto: yes, I am
[15:35] <joaopinto> riaal, so it must work :)
[15:35] <riaal> :)
[15:36] <nb1> maxbaldwin: I already removed wine some time ago. I recently did an autoremove, and it removed "libfltk1.1 libglademm-2.4-1c2a ttf-liberation virtualbox-ose-source
[15:36] <joaopinto> riaal, you will need to relogin to check the changes
[15:36] <nb1>   visualboyadvance winbind wine-gecko." Do I need to reboot again after autoremove?
[15:36] <lorenzo> scusate quale programma posso usare per estrarre cd audio in mp3? grazie
[15:36] <Vinceman> hi.., how do you save a window in linux?
[15:36] <riaal> joaopinto:  or use source..
[15:36] <joaopinto> nb1, you are out of sound after installing virtualbox ?
[15:36] <lorenzo> ops, sorry thought it was the italian chan
[15:36] <Reiven> hey guys
[15:36] <joaopinto> riaal, right ;)
[15:36] <maxbaldwin> nb1:usually not,,, but since you are dealing with sound related problems, you better reboot.
[15:37] <Reiven> i need some help whit this file libdb3.so.3... i need this file
[15:37] <Reiven> anyone can help me?
[15:37] <Trooper2008> ok  they tell me from our italian channel that on ubuntu you don't get advise on usb wifi key couse they are part of unplug they are seen as part of the hd this is why
[15:37] <Trooper2008> so you must do everything from unmount
[15:37] <joaopinto> Reiven, apt-cache search libdb3
[15:37] <nb1> joaopinto: I've had the non-OSE edition of virtualbox for some time without issue, I think wine started my problem... I'll reboot, back in a few.
[15:37] <Reiven> valeu joao pinto
[15:37] <nb1> maxbaldwin: OK
[15:37] <dekkard> any reason why brasero wont let me burn a vcd on intrepid?
[15:38] <joaopinto> nb1, please check your PCM mixer level, there are know problems with pulseaudio setting the PCM level to 0
[15:38] <B|ackPanther> How can i force locate to find recent files in ubuntu,trying locate -u does not work
[15:38] <joaopinto> nb1, install the gnome mixer and check the PCM level
[15:38] <joaopinto> B|ackPanther, sudo updatedb (to for the db update)
[15:38] <joaopinto> B|ackPanther, you need to be root/sudo to update the db
[15:38] <jeoz> dell inspiron 8200; 2 black-screen mysteries; using generic dexconf after install, on awakening from sleep.... black screen; then tried installing nvidia-glx-96 as 'recommended', then 'enabled' (replaces xorg-conf), reboot goes black-screen also.  help.., (with the rescue mode, it is recoverable, of course, but no 3-D)
[15:39] <B|ackPanther> joaopinto,thanks .
[15:39] <Reiven> thancks for help joaopinto
[15:39] <Reiven> cya
[15:40] <LjL> B|ackPanther: use slocate
[15:40] <B|ackPanther> LjL,so locate will never locate them.I want to update the db sort of so that i can use locate later on.
[15:40] <hypa7ia> anyone have a good reference on reverting to packaged perl when you've installed it to /usr/local ?
[15:40] <PCessna> bbl
[15:41] <B|ackPanther> works like a charm :D
[15:41] <joaopinto> hypa7ia, reinstall it with checkinstall, and remove the package ?
[15:41] <joaopinto> B|ackPanther, you could use find, which is much slower :P
[15:41] <newb101> Hi room, can anyone tell me why I have no voice in 8.10? lspci/dmesg etc shows the kernel module snd-intel8x0 and i can modprobe it though just have no sound at all?
[15:42] <joaopinto> newb101, did you check the mixer level ?
[15:42] <LjL> B|ackPanther: run updatedb
[15:42] <nb1> Hey guys, I just rebooted but my sound is still dead.  To clarify, sound was working after I initially installed wine, it only quit after a few attempts at running a windows game on it.
[15:42] <B|ackPanther> LjL,did run it,took a while though on my poor lapie.
[15:42] <newb101> alsamixer? yeah i turned that right up
[15:43] <LjL> B|ackPanther: updating the database takes a long time, yes, there is no way around that.
[15:43] <B|ackPanther> what database is used is there ?
[15:44] <LjL> B|ackPanther: oh, it's not really a standard database. it's just a "compressed" text file listing files on your system sorted alphabetically.
[15:44] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[15:44] <Tetracomm> How do I convert a PDF to CHM?
[15:44] <karname> in 8.10 when a program using my sound card , another program can not use it, what should i do ?
[15:44] <joaopinto> B|ackPanther, I believe it's a libdb db
[15:44] <hypa7ia> joaopinto: i'll look into that, many thanks!
[15:44] <LjL> Tetracomm: you can convert CHM to PDF, but given that PDF is mostly a display format, i doubt that you can easily do the opposite
[15:45] <B|ackPanther> oh,not something obvious.
[15:45] <hypa7ia> converting pdf to anything is such a pain :s
[15:45] <nb1> maxbaldwin: That reboot didn't fix it. Do you have any other suggestions?
[15:45] <LjL> B|ackPanther: it's in /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db, you can have a look.
[15:46] <LjL> B|ackPanther: there's also "man mlocate.db" documenting it
[15:46] <maxbaldwin> nb1: no, I don't. Someone else may be able to help you, or you can post on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ and ask.
[15:46] <B|ackPanther> LJL,it says its a binary file.
[15:47] <LjL> B|ackPanther: it is in fact, but it contains a lot of plainly readable text
[15:47] <nb1> maxbaldwin: OK, thank you for trying! :)
[15:47] <hypa7ia> joaopinto: do you know of any gotchas for checkinstalling perl, given how much of apt-get is written in perl?
[15:48] <joaopinto> hypa7ia, I don't think apt-get uses perl at all
[15:48] <LjL> hypa7ia: ugh, that looks like a pretty sure path to utter system breakage.
[15:48] <joaopinto> LjL, he needs to restore the packaged perl :P
[15:48] <hypa7ia> LjL: i know, it was an accident :(
[15:48] <hypa7ia> joaopinto: she :p
[15:48] <joaopinto> hybridiZed_, you could --reinstall but you will still keep garbage from the manual install
[15:48] <joaopinto> ops, was for hypa7ia
[15:49] <joaopinto> hypa7ia, and, if you have a livecd near, you are safe to fix
[15:49] <Acedip> what is the min size of partition to install 8.10 on ???????
[15:49] <LjL> hypa7ia: reinstall it, then run "debsums -s" and see if there's many broken files
[15:49] <hypa7ia> joaopinto: i do, and backups of the whole system (except one vmware image i don't have space for, which is the only reason to not just nuke-and-pave)
[15:49] <joaopinto> LjL, you are not expected to have broken files after a --reinstall ;)
[15:50] <cracksonj> hello to all
[15:50] <ionicz> how do i get ubuntu to recognize my usb jump drive???
[15:50] <hypa7ia> joaopinto: good point about the livecd
[15:50]  * hypa7ia burns a fresh one
[15:50] <joaopinto> hypa7ia, if you break apt-get, you will be able to fix it from a live cd, you just need to chroot to your live system
[15:50] <LjL> joaopinto: yet i somewhat don't feel i can exclude the possibility
[15:50] <cracksonj> anyone know what is the command to find out the installation date of ubuntu?
[15:50] <frold> Does anyone know a good web based alternativ for system administration like Webmin - It have to be open Source
[15:50]  * hypa7ia is vaguely scared of chroot, but ok :)
[15:50] <ComradeHaz> Hi chaps. Anyone here know much about the memory stick install malarchy? Specifically I'm after a persistant install with a FAT32 or NTFS partition that can both be read by windows box or by the installon the stick if booted. Also, I used the new tool in 8.1 and whilst I've not properly tested it, was disapointed to find it booted like the cd does. ie with the install screen and language selection
[15:50] <LjL> joaopinto: especially if the checkinstall-installed package went to touch files that normally belong to other packages
[15:51] <LjL> !ebox | frold, broken in Intrepid unfortunately
[15:51] <ComradeHaz> Is there a way to get a more installed type setp and less of a hyped up copy of the live cd?
[15:51] <ionicz> how do i get ubuntu to recognize my usb jump drive???
[15:51] <genii> Comrade-Sergei: For some fat32 system or so, use syslinux
[15:51] <joaopinto> LjL, he is going to reinstall after checkinstalll, reinstall should replace every file, except for config files
[15:51] <genii> ComradeHaz: That message was you, rather
[15:51] <joaopinto> I mean, checkinstall/remove
[15:51] <hypa7ia> ComradeHaz: why don't you install to the usb drive?
[15:52] <hypa7ia> joaopinto: SHE :p
[15:52] <joaopinto> ops :D
[15:52] <LjL> ComradeHaz: if you want a FAT32/NTFS filesystem, then you'll have to live with nonstandard ways of putting the Ubuntu filesystem on it. that either means using "live"+"persistence", or doing things very much manually.
[15:52] <joaopinto> hypa7ia, and take a note, do not manually install core software :P
[15:53] <hypa7ia> joaopinto: as i said, i didn't mean to... it was a real bonehead error due to lack of CPAN experience
[15:53] <ionicz> how do I get Ubuntu to recognize my USB JUmp Drive???
[15:53] <ComradeHaz> [15:44:39] <genii> Comrade-Sergei: For some fat32 system or so, use syslinux <-- happy for most of the part's to be ext or whatever, was just saying I want one that's not. (Although I'm pretty sure I''l be ok with that on my own tbh) It's the latter question I guess is more an immediate concern
[15:53] <joaopinto> hypa7ia, ok :)
[15:53] <hypa7ia> joaopinto: it went something like "oh no it didn't just do what i think it did, did it?"
[15:53] <hypa7ia> :)
[15:54] <ComradeHaz> [15:45:08] <hypa7ia> ComradeHaz: why don't you install to the usb drive? <--- I tried that, but struggled with boot part'. It obviously detected my other OS's on the other HDD and tried to install a boot loader.. Obviously I'd ideally unplug the other hdd but doing this on a laptop so that's not trivil..
[15:54] <Acedip> what is the min size of partition to install 8.10 on ???????
[15:54] <erUSUL> !specs
[15:54] <Acedip> what is the min size of partition to install 8.10 on ???????
[15:54] <Trooper2008> hello helpers new question my wifi from 8mb goes slower to 4 mb on 8.10 is it couse i diden't install the linux drivers for it or couse i have lockit and all ready a firewall in my modem router that i slow down so much?
[15:55] <LjL> !requirements | Acedip
[15:55] <ComradeHaz> [15:46:24] <ionicz> how do I get Ubuntu to recognize my USB JUmp Drive???  <---- plug it in?!!
[15:55] <hypa7ia> ComradeHaz: gotcha, that sucks - sounds like a tricky problem
[15:56] <ComradeHaz> Do you think if I did just do an install on a machine with no other HDD's it'd work?
[15:56] <hypa7ia> ComradeHaz: that's what i was just about to suggest :)
[15:56] <ComradeHaz> hmm
[15:56] <hypa7ia> ComradeHaz: i run backtrack on a flash drive on fat32 and it seems to work fine
[15:56] <ComradeHaz> trouble is
[15:56] <hypa7ia> but i haven't set up ubu on one before :/
[15:56] <ComradeHaz> my other machine is
[15:56] <ComradeHaz> tom@Apollo:~$ uptime
[15:57] <ComradeHaz>  15:54:21 up 83 days,  8:48,  1 user,  load average: 2.00, 2.01, 2.00
[15:57] <ComradeHaz> a bit busy :D
[15:57] <hypa7ia> so it appears
[15:57] <hypa7ia> hmm
[15:57] <genii> ComradeHaz: If you are using a method which involves only copying the Casper (squashfs image on the CD or so) then it will behave as the CD dows. In this case you need a volume to save settings and make it "persistent". The volume name must be casper-cow , this is a special name the image recognises. It can be  ext2 or vfat
[15:57] <Stalker72> how do I install this: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_180.06.html ?
[15:58] <hypa7ia> ComradeHaz: do you need the system partition to be fat32 or do you just want a shared fat32 partition?
[15:58] <ComradeHaz> ahh, I see genii.
[15:58] <ComradeHaz> and the latter hypa7ia
[15:58] <ComradeHaz> so pretty trivial probably
[15:58] <hypa7ia> should be, in theory :)
[15:58] <ComradeHaz> especially if I do an install instead
[15:58] <ComradeHaz> I'll just make /home ntfs or fat
[15:59] <LjL> Stalker72: please, don't, unless you know very well that you need to... use the Nvidia drivers packaged by Ubuntu, instead
[15:59] <LjL> !nvidia
[15:59] <ComradeHaz> that was why I asked... remember the problem now...
[15:59] <ComradeHaz> I wanted to do that, but was given no option my teh creator
[15:59] <Beloc> hi all
[15:59] <peterloorke> hi all I can't change my usplash screen whatever I choose except default ubuntu-splash it doesn't work any ideas?
[15:59] <ComradeHaz> but it makes sense why now given what genii said
[15:59] <zeno> apparently windows doesnt like characters like ? and : in filenames, is there a script to convert files to NTFS friendly?  Its a NAS and i cant put linux on it.
[15:59] <hypa7ia> ComradeHaz: the stuff my googling has turned up looks like you may not be able to install to fat32 anymore in ubu?
[16:00] <ComradeHaz> uh
[16:00] <Stalker72> LjL: ok
[16:00] <ComradeHaz> [15:53:01] <hypa7ia> ComradeHaz: the stuff my googling has turned up looks like you may not be able to install to fat32 anymore in ubu?  <--- i said the latter
[16:00] <ComradeHaz> Ie a seperate partition
[16:00] <hypa7ia> right
[16:00] <ComradeHaz> so not a prob
[16:00] <hypa7ia> duh, sorry :)
[16:00] <hypa7ia> i misread you there
[16:00] <ComradeHaz> thanks for looking though :)
[16:01] <ComradeHaz> [15:52:50] <zeno> apparently windows doesnt like characters like ? and : in filenames, is there a script to convert files to NTFS friendly?  Its a NAS and i cant put linux on it. <--- you don;t need to convert, just configure correctly
[16:01] <v4vijayakumar> hi, some days back I installed skype, mithubuntu and related non-standard packages. now, I would like to remove everything non-standard from my ubuntu installation. how to do it..? is there any esay way to do this..?
[16:01] <King> hey ubuntu world
[16:01] <hypa7ia> v4vijayakumar: that's the trouble with non-standard things, they make things like uninstalling tricky
[16:01] <hypa7ia> sadly :/
[16:01] <zeno> ComradeHaz: hmm? thanks but what do you mean config correctly?
[16:01] <joaopinto> v4vijayakumar, it would be safer to reinstall :P
[16:02] <ne2k__> any good resources recommended for up-to-date RAID card support on Linux? I need to get one that proper hardware RAID 1 on SATA disks and has good userland tools for reporting on the status of disks, rebuilding mirror, etc.
[16:02] <zeno> ComradeHaz: its a NAS so i cant edit windows registry or whatever and rsync or cp just chokes on files /dirs with ?
[16:02] <erUSUL> zeno: http://detox.sourceforge.net/
[16:02] <hypa7ia> erUSUL: that looks like a great tool, thanks!
[16:02] <ComradeHaz> hmm, actually, maybe ? marks wil throw you. I didn't read carefully enough perhaps. But in theory if mounted correctly with the correct locales and in UTF-8, most non standard character s should escape unharmed
[16:03] <erUSUL> ne2k__: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
[16:03] <King> i have a game controller that works but i cant figure out who to use it with cube
[16:03] <zeno> erUSUL: thanks
[16:04] <zeno> i dont want to replace spaces tho, hopefully thats configurable
[16:04] <ne2k__> erUSUL: looks like a good resource. thank you!
[16:04] <Demios1> I'm really new to ubuntu and linux (first time I installed it) and I can't get my Sound Blaster Live! to work as the sound card... the on board intel card does work though.
[16:04] <erUSUL> ne2k__: zeno no problem
[16:04] <hypa7ia> this channel is so much more usable with joins and parts disabled :D
[16:04] <zeno> Demios1: system admin drivers, may find it
[16:05] <juro> hi, I have finally managed to get my NVidia geforce 7600 and Dell 2407WPF to display 1920x1200@60. Now I cannot activate the "Visual Effects" - how can I check why?
[16:05] <joaopinto> Jurkki, are you using the 3d hw capable driver ?
[16:05] <D7> is the ubuntu netbook remix image supposed to boot into a desktop environment like regular ubuntu? I seem to be hanging on a "will mount root from /dev/sdb
[16:06] <Demios1> zeno: I forgot to mention that is System->Administration->Sound the SBL! appears but when I run the sound test I don't get sound from it, again, only off the on board.
[16:06] <ComradeHaz> mmmeh
[16:06]  * ComradeHaz takes hdd out of laptop :D
[16:07] <zeno> Demios1: ah ok, do a search for linux driver yourcard in google, or maybe just use integrated unless you really need hardware accel for some reason
[16:07] <MindSpark> hi, does anyone know if ncftp supports sftp ?
[16:07] <zeno> ComradeHaz: gl
[16:07] <ComradeHaz> :D
[16:07] <ComradeHaz> ta
[16:07] <ComradeHaz> Who do I address the invoice to if I break somthing? :PP
[16:08] <ComradeHaz> or probably more accurately, when
[16:08] <afallenhope> anyone know if you can recover stuff that was deleted from the trash?
[16:09] <zeno> ComradeHaz: my friend spilled a pot of coffee on his laptop and took apart, cleaned up corrosion, put back together, let dry and worked! so maybe not all is lost
[16:10] <afallenhope> anyone?
[16:10] <zeno> afallenhope: you mean after you did empty trash? or before? if after its tough but maybe possible
[16:10] <zeno> is it in the trash now? if so just click and drag to new location
[16:11] <Acedip> ubottu: the link says for a min space for 8gb but ubuntu used onyl 4gb after installation..i guess why was the extra space requried
[16:11] <macjason0607> guys .. i want to share a folder that has a movie in it with my windows computer so i can watch it .. how do i do th
[16:11] <Ursinha> this ubottu is awesome
[16:11] <neoDite> Does anyone use the mobile internet dongels? I currently use the one on "three" and want to install ubuntu on my laptop too, but this is the only thing thats got me worried
[16:12] <lee_> how can I make the system reload the /etc/event.d stuff? I've updated settings for ttyS0 and I need to restart getty with the new baud rate, rebooting isnt an option because other things are being done on the system
[16:12] <afallenhope> zeno, well what happened was I was organizing stuff and then somehow a folder got deleted. and then when I did a find on it I couldn't find it.. and I emptied the trash.. so yeah.. it's no longer in the trash and this was like.. not even 2 mins ago
[16:12] <amdorintel> hello, need some support regarding which version to download [ stuck because of file name ]
[16:13] <khaime> hello to all
[16:13] <ComradeHaz> hmm
[16:13] <hypa7ia> D7: it should - did you install it from the ppa?
[16:13] <Neostar2119> Greetings
[16:13] <n8tuser> afallenhope -> no way to recover
[16:13] <khaime> happy thanksgiving for those that celebrate it
[16:13] <ComradeHaz> anyone know how to get the HDD out of a new Dell vostro 1400? :D
[16:13] <khaime> i need help with samba....i am using ubuntu 8.04
[16:13] <D7> hypa7ia, ppa?
[16:13] <zeno> afallenhope: have you done much to the filesystem since then?
[16:13] <hypa7ia> D7: never mind :)  what netbook are you running it on
[16:13] <khaime> i have already done the necessary changes to the smb.conf file
[16:13] <bazhang> ComradeHaz, ask in a hardware channel
[16:13] <n8tuser> ComradeHaz -> special tools required?
[16:13] <bazhang> ComradeHaz, ##hardware
[16:13] <D7> hypa7ia, aspire one
[16:14] <zeno> afallenhope: how important is it? what filesystem
[16:14] <khaime> but for some reason my windwows box sees the share...but i can't access it
[16:14] <hypa7ia> D7: with a hard drive or ssd?
[16:14] <afallenhope> zeno, I haven't deleted anything since then..and ext3
[16:14] <khaime> i have a user on the windows and the linux box with the same name and password
[16:14] <D7> hypa7ia, 160gb hard drive, 1gb ram, windows xp key stickered to the bottom
[16:14] <amdorintel> i have intel mobo with intel quad core processor [ not amd ] .. but the 64 bit version says desktop-amd64.iso .. so does it also work on intel based system ?
[16:14] <ComradeHaz> lol, I wasn't expecting a response :D
[16:14] <ComradeHaz> but thanks :D
[16:14] <h37a_paris> ./list
[16:15] <bazhang> ComradeHaz, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat please
[16:15] <Beloc> he
[16:15] <h37a_paris> Hi everybody !
[16:15] <amdorintel> anyone ?
[16:15] <Datz1> Hi, I have two disks, one with ubuntu installed and the other used to have XP installed on it.  I just installed vista on the one that had xp before, but now I don't get a startup screen with OS boot options, what can I do to bring it back?
[16:15] <h37a_paris> i have a question
[16:16] <h37a_paris> i would like tu buy a webcam but which one ? any idea ?
[16:16] <zeno> afallenhope: some programs regurally write to the drive, so unless its an external or something you may be sol.  also ext3 is harder to recover.  there are utils to try though if its REALLY important
[16:16] <Beloc> hi , can ubuntu use debian's source list?
[16:16] <ayu> hai............. ^,^
[16:16] <nb1> My sound quit working in Ubuntu 8.10 while trying to set up a game with wine. I've removed wine and did an autoremove, have rebooted, but still don't have sound. I can't even get static with cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp. Sound works in Windows, so it has to be an Ubuntu issue. Does anyone have an idea?
[16:16] <amdorintel> zeno, could u please help me regarding the download ?
[16:17] <afallenhope> zeno, it is.. zeno I deleted it from my .TRASH
[16:17] <enovativ> can anyone help me with samba ?
[16:17] <amdorintel> mikebeecham hi
[16:17] <afallenhope> Beloc, if you put debian source in ubuntu's ousrce it works
[16:17] <afallenhope> Beloc, Hardy is based off of Etch
[16:17] <afallenhope> from what I know of
[16:17] <mikebeecham> amdorintel: ?
[16:18] <amdorintel> desktop-amd64.iso -->  file name of 64 bit version .. does it work on intel processor motherboard too ?
[16:18] <amdorintel> or i am downloading wrong image ?
[16:19] <joaopinto> amdorintel, yes it also works on intel
[16:19] <nb1> It works on Intel64 too
[16:19] <j^> what package do i have to install to get java applets working on 64bit intrepid?
[16:19] <ComradeHaz> OK, chaps, is there anything you think I should bear in mind installing ubuntu to a momory stick? Note this is install to, not create a bootable stick with the new utility.
[16:19] <amdorintel> ok, but just out of curiosity why does it say amd in the end ?
[16:19] <joaopinto> j^, gcjwebplugin
[16:19] <sluimers> Hello, I've got a problem with creating a Derby client JDBC Driver in eclipse. I'm trying to connect to one, but get a connection refused error very similar to http://dev.eclipse.org/newslists/news.eclipse.dtp/msg01222.html
[16:20] <joaopinto> sluimers, your question is offtopic ;)
[16:20] <joaopinto> sluimers, try ##java ?
[16:20] <zeno> afallenhope: just google deleted file recovery linux
[16:20] <zeno> afallenhope: and ext3 in there too
[16:21] <afallenhope> lol nice support
[16:21] <bazhang> !undelete
[16:21] <afallenhope> "google your question"
[16:21] <nb1> ComradeHaz: I've heard that running an OS on a flash stick can lower the lifespan of the flash memory, I think because flash memory can only last so many cycles of writes before it wears out?
[16:21] <joaopinto> afallenhope, this is for ubuntu support, not for eclipse :)
[16:21] <joaopinto> afallenhope, ops, please ignore me, wrong nick :P
[16:22] <joaopinto> afallenhope, you can use testdisk for file recovery, but it only allows to recover specific file types
[16:22] <ComradeHaz> [16:21:56] <nb1> ComradeHaz: I've heard that running an OS on a flash stick can lower the lifespan of the flash memory, I think because flash memory can only last so many cycles of writes before it wears out?  «----- lol. Well my 8gig stick cost me £4 so dilligaff tbh?! :P
[16:22] <joaopinto> afallenhope, and you should just stop using your disk, and mounting it readonly somewhere else for the recovery
[16:22] <bazhang> ComradeHaz, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:22] <joaopinto> any write to your HD may overwrite the deleted file
[16:22] <jayemef> how do you disable background scanning with 8.10/network manager?
[16:22] <bazhang> ComradeHaz, this is ubuntu support
[16:23] <afancy> hi, why my ubuntu no wireless ?
[16:23] <quagga> nb1: my router runs off of a compactflash card.  provided you're not using it for swap and you buffer your log writes, i don't see a problem
[16:23] <afallenhope> well it was a folder with a bunch of .mp4 files
[16:23] <amdorintel> there is no iso image which has i686 .. i am not sure if i want to download the one that says desktop-amd64.iso .. it looks like its specific for AMD based system .. i have intel quadcore and intel motherboard
[16:23] <steel_lady> ok guys i put things up more or less on my new laptop but I have one last question: i think it does not reognize my graphic card well. how can I check it and repair it?
[16:23] <sluimers> joaopinto, I tried #eclipse, but they don't seem to answer, I was hoping I would getone answer, but thanks for answering..
[16:23] <ComradeHaz> [16:23:38] <bazhang> ComradeHaz, this is ubuntu support «--- and I'm after support, aren't I?
[16:23] <ComradeHaz> I asked a question, someone responded, I responded to that
[16:23] <bazhang> ComradeHaz, then ask a support question please
[16:23] <ComradeHaz> that's generally how conversation go.
[16:24] <joaopinto> ComradeHaz, your question is more flash memory related, better ask on ##hardware
[16:24] <amdorintel> bazhang can i please pm you ?
[16:24] <ComradeHaz> huh?!
[16:24] <ComradeHaz> [16:20:13] <ComradeHaz> OK, chaps, is there anything you think I should bear in mind installing ubuntu to a momory stick? Note this is install to, not create a bootable stick with the new utility.
[16:24] <bazhang> amdorintel, the intel64 works fine with that
[16:25] <bazhang> ComradeHaz, it works fine; nothing special to take note of
[16:25] <ComradeHaz> No it's not. I'm wondering if there are any particular packages I  should install or avoid, if there's any potential bugs that are known I may run in to.
[16:25] <ComradeHaz> that kind of thing.
[16:25] <amdorintel> thank you
[16:25] <ComradeHaz> OK, thankyou
[16:25] <mcxx> hi, I'm having problems with two monitors in Kubuntu 8.04 - I didn't success with configuring them in xorg.conf so I tried xrandr. That works OK as long as I have the second (external) monitor normally, but when I rotate it 90 degrees with xrandr, the refreshing of the display is really slow (cca 3s), any idea how to fix this?
[16:25] <bazhang> np
[16:25] <Odd-rationale> ComradeHaz: how big is the usb stick?
[16:25] <e-head_> Hey
[16:25] <ComradeHaz> 8gb
[16:25] <e-head_> From my apt.sources file it looks like I'm running Dapper.
[16:26] <e-head_> Just how out of date is that?
[16:26] <joaopinto> e-head_, run: lsb_release -a
[16:26] <joaopinto> on the terminal
[16:26] <Odd-rationale> ComradeHaz: k. one thing to just keep in mind is 1) do not use a swap partition on a usb stick. and 2) make sure you install grub on the correct device.
[16:26] <Odd-rationale> s/one/two
[16:26] <e-head_> Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[16:26] <e-head_> Is that pretty old?
[16:26] <ComradeHaz> oooh?
[16:26] <ComradeHaz> No SWAP?
[16:26] <altrouser> join #ubuntu.it
[16:26] <ComradeHaz> will it be ok with that?
[16:27] <Odd-rationale> ComradeHaz: on a usbstick... generally it is not adviseable...
[16:27] <Neostar2119> Greetings guys, I git a question concerning a laptop touchpad, which I believe is a Synaptics touchpad. When I reformatted my Windows machine and installed Ubuntu, the touchpad worked out of the box, but it's acting, for lack of a better term, a little nuts. The sensitivity seems a bit off (takes some fairly good pressure in the middle to start moving but the lightest touch of my middle finger on the touchpad edge sends the cursor every
[16:27] <Neostar2119> Is there a way to dial up the accelleration and fix the sensitivity issue or am i just going to have to get used to it?
[16:27] <e-head_> Old or no?  Ubuntu 6.06
[16:27] <ComradeHaz> Old.
[16:27] <Odd-rationale> e-head_: yes... old
[16:28] <e-head_> Can I just change the sources and run an "apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[16:28] <Odd-rationale> !upgrade | e-head_
[16:28] <e-head_> Or are those days over?
[16:28] <e-head_> alright. thanks.
[16:28] <ComradeHaz> can you not do the same as debian and set them to rsting or unstable or somesuch?
[16:28] <bazhang> e-head_, you can do a one step to hardy
[16:28] <Odd-rationale> e-head_: you should  be able to upgrade to 8.04 LTS
[16:28] <ComradeHaz> *testing
[16:28] <larry> happy thanksgiving everyone
[16:28] <e-head_> hey... does anyone know if the mod_mono package runs smoothly on apache2 at this point?
[16:29] <e-head_> I think before you had to download apache2 and compile it with some extra switches.
[16:29] <e-head_> It was sort of a pain.
[16:29] <e-head_> Wondering if that's gotten all smooth and easy at this point?
[16:30] <ionicz> How do i open a .bin file in ubuntu 8.10 ???
[16:30] <n8tuser> open a .bin file? what do you want to do?
[16:31] <ionicz> install a game
[16:31] <IdleOne> ionicz, you run a bin you don't open it
[16:31] <ionicz> well that's what i meant
[16:31] <ionicz> how do i open a bin file in ubuntu
[16:32] <macjason0607> guys i just installed samba and smbfs .. i can see the ubuntu share .. when i connect to it it keeps asking me for a username and password .. i put everything correct and still nothing
[16:32] <silvex> hi all, is there any way to file browse a usb2serial device?
[16:32] <ionicz> i have a coupla questions though
[16:32] <Demios1> zeno: I'm following a tutorial on the ubuntu forum, so I installed PulseAudio and now that doesn't recognize the SBL!....
[16:33] <n8tuser> ionicz -> chmod u+x *.bin  to make it executable
[16:33] <naf> On Ubuntu 8.10, with input-hotplug, how do you set the mouse protocol?
[16:34] <nb1> If I don't receive an answer to a question in this channel, how long  would it be appropriate to wait before asking again?
[16:34] <n8tuser> 15 mins
[16:34] <ne2k__> nb1: you should definitely wait at least four seconds before asking again
[16:34] <steel_lady> please can somebody tell me how can i check my graphic card?
[16:35] <nb1> ne2k_: four seconds? lol
[16:35] <n8tuser> steel_lady -> you eyeball it?
[16:35] <DIFH-iceroot> steel_lady: checking for what?
[16:35] <ionicz> the chmod command issn't working
[16:35] <zeno> Demios1: try uninstallling pulse unless you need network transparency or something
[16:35] <nb1> well I've given it 20, so I'll take another shot
[16:35] <naf> On Ubuntu 8.10, with input-hotplug, how do you set the mouse protocol?
[16:36] <nb1> My sound quit working in Ubuntu 8.10 while trying to set up a game with wine. I've removed wine and did an autoremove, have rebooted, but still don't have sound. I can't even get static with cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp. Sound works in Windows, so it has to be an Ubuntu issue. Does anyone have an idea?
[16:36] <ionicz> is there a program out there that will open bin files for ubuntu???
[16:36] <n8tuser> ionicz -> thats just to make it executable, then you have to run it,   /path/to/that.bin
[16:36] <erUSUL> steel_lady: you want to know the model?? → lspci | grep -vga
[16:37] <steel_lady> for eg. i tried to test it on second life game. in vista it works perfectly while on ubuntu says my graphic card does not meet basic criteria ne dte performance is lousy. there was some hardware check and I did not see color bars displayed they were mentioning
[16:37] <Armada> I'm having problems with my multimedia keys, Stop is being detected as Lower Volume
[16:37] <ComradeHaz> Can anyone give a recomended size I allocate to everything other then /home when installing ubuntu on a memory stick?
[16:38] <ComradeHaz> it's an 8gb stick..
[16:38] <steel_lady> erUSUL it says invalid command
[16:38] <Armada> I'm having problems with my multimedia keys on my G15 keyboard, Stop is being detected as Lower Volume
[16:38] <n8tuser> ComradeHaz -> 100meg is more than enuff for /boot
[16:38] <saxofone1> hey everyone, I need help bad, I'm trying to recover grub after a windows install.  find /boot/grub/stage1 returns nothing
[16:38] <erUSUL> steel_lady: lspci | grep -i vga
[16:38] <ComradeHaz> ok,
[16:38] <j^> joaopinto, is there a more recent version somewhere, 0.96 does not work on many sites i.e. https://www.elsteronline.de/eportal/
[16:39] <ionicz> Is there a program that will open the BIN file in Ubuntu?
[16:39] <saxofone1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows I'm trying to follow this, but step 4 isn't working
[16:39] <ComradeHaz> hmm you know what, I've never done an install where I don;t have a seperate partition for everything.
[16:39] <macjason0607> New SMB password:
[16:39] <macjason0607> Retype new SMB password:
[16:39] <macjason0607> Failed to modify password entry for user shared
[16:39] <ComradeHaz> How do I do it?
[16:39] <macjason0607> any ideas ?
[16:39] <FloodBot3> macjason0607: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:39] <erUSUL> ionicz: it is a cd image or what?
[16:39] <ComradeHaz> do I just define those I want to be seperate and it sorts out the rest?
[16:39] <n8tuser> !install | ComradeHaz
[16:39] <ionicz> yes
[16:39] <macjason0607> so how do i fix this ?
[16:39] <ionicz> but theres no cue
[16:40] <ionicz> its only a bin file
[16:40] <medc>  i started my SAMBA server but the guys from XP cannot access my files, windows request them a user and a password
[16:40] <ionicz> i downloaded planeshift
[16:40] <Armada> I'm having problems with my multimedia keys on my G15 keyboard, Stop is being detected as Lower Volume
[16:40] <jxander> how do i change aspell language?
[16:41] <bazhang> !info planeshift
[16:41] <Demios1> zeno: why remove pulse? and would you say reinstalling ALSA might do the trick
[16:41] <netdur> gedit takes too long to launch
[16:41] <Demios1> ?
[16:41] <archangelpetro> anyone ever had a problem like this, when trying to compile c with #include <stdio.h> ? -> bleh.c:1:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
[16:41] <tim> hey, is there a file beside xorg.conf that holds monitor resolution settings?
[16:41] <archangelpetro> the file ia pewawnr
[16:41] <archangelpetro> is present*
[16:41] <zeno> Demios1: alsa works for me sometimes when pulse doenst
[16:41] <n8tuser> tim not that i know of
[16:41] <croddy> i am looking for a tool that will allow me to toggle my webcam on and off. the best i can come up with is writing scripts to insert and remove the module, but unfortunately the little light stays on. anyone else have a bright idea?
[16:42] <ionicz> and another question
[16:42] <tim> n8tuser, so how the hell can it be that after i rebooting i got 1024x768 set if the only value under monitor in xorg.conf has set 1280x1024
[16:43] <ionicz> why dont ubuntu recognize my usb jump drive???
[16:43] <Demios1> zeno: how do I re-install alsa then?
[16:43] <steel_lady> erUSUL, it gave me the name of my card. do you have some explanation that it has much worse performance in ubuntu than in vista?
[16:43] <n8tuser> tim do you have to mention hell?
[16:43] <tim> n8tuser, what do you mean?
[16:43] <erUSUL> steel_lady: maybe you are not using the correct drivers... which graphic card it is?
[16:43] <n8tuser> tim learn mannerism
[16:43] <croddy> n8tuser, if you think that's bad you should have heard what i was saying to /etc/init.d/mysqld at work yesterday as it ignored my configuration
[16:43] <zeno> Demios1: install it with apt, then select is in system pref sound for everything
[16:44] <n8tuser> croddy -> i dont want to know :)
[16:44] <maxbaldwin> !ohmy | tim
[16:44] <tim> n8tuser, well then...sorry for the bad language ;>
[16:44] <tim> yaya, didnt understand in first instance
[16:45] <steel_lady> erUSUL, it is 256 MB ATI Mobility RADEON HD 3450 S
[16:45] <n8tuser> tim -> it also takes the default settings from bios
[16:45] <Armada> I'm having problems with my multimedia keys on my G15 keyboard, Stop is being detected as Lower Volume
[16:45] <erUSUL> steel_lady: have you used system>Administration>Hardware Drivers to install ati's propietary driver?
[16:45] <chamunks> I keep trying to purge my pulse audio and reinstalling it via apt but it seems to want to retain its horrible configuration that wont work.
[16:45] <Demios1> zeno: sorry for the newbiness, but what's apt?
[16:46] <n8tuser> tim you can find out what settings are available if you type  xdpyinfo
[16:46] <croddy> Armada, have you set up all the shortcuts in gnome-keybinding-properties
[16:46] <leetsweden> ...
[16:46] <erUSUL> chamunks: maybe you need to remove ~/.pulse/ too??
[16:46] <IdleOne> can a DVD iso be used to make a USB boot disk?
[16:46] <leetsweden> do /script load nm.pl
[16:46] <chamunks> erUSUL, hmm checking into it.
[16:46] <Armada> croddy: That's the problem, I can't set them up, Stop is being detected as Lower Volume
[16:47] <zeno> Demios1: use synaptic, apt is a command line way of adding and removing packages
[16:47] <croddy> Armada, try clearing out all the affected keys in the keyboard shortcuts setup and then reassigning them
[16:47] <steel_lady> erUSUL, that section suggests me to install drivers for my card and it tries and stays at 0% forever
[16:48] <Armada> croddy: You don't understand, Stop is being dtected as Lower Volume when I'm trying to assign them
[16:48] <Demios1> zeno: so what would be the command line?
[16:48] <chamunks> erUSUL, I just realised theres a pulse-backup folder containing directories called /pulse/ and .pulse/  where could i try putting these to see if its a working backup?
[16:48] <naf> Anyone? On Ubuntu 8.10, with input-hotplug, how do you set the mouse protocol?
[16:48] <erUSUL> steel_lady: :| network connection problems?
[16:48] <monadwr> what packages do i require for mp3 support?
[16:48] <z3ek> right, i have just installed Ubuntu on a shitty Acer Aspire t180
[16:48] <croddy> Armada, I think I do understand. I've had the same problem, try clearing out the shortcut for "lower volume" and "stop" by pressing backspace
[16:48] <erUSUL> chamunks: ~/.pulse/ is in your home dir
[16:48] <z3ek> and having a problems with the nvidia graphics drivers
[16:48] <z3ek> anyone help me out
[16:49] <erUSUL> !ati | steel_lady
[16:49] <steel_lady> erUSUL i don t know i will try to reboot
[16:49] <chamunks> erUSUL, than theres one other called regular un hidden pulse with client.conf, daemon.conf, and default.pa
[16:49] <VSpike> !uuid
[16:50] <z3ek> anyone ?
[16:50] <chamunks> erUSUL, also one more file called asound.conf thats sitting in the pulse-backup/ directory  (root ofthe backup directory)
[16:50] <Armada> croddy: They already are, when I try to reassign them XF86AudioStop is being detected as XF86AudioLowerVolume
[16:50] <croddy> ugh
[16:50] <erUSUL> chamunks: well asaund.conf is for alsa not for pulse
[16:50] <tim234> resolution problem solved - changed via nvidia-settings, had to confirm in build in gnome resolution manager
[16:51] <gnuskool> aloha!
[16:51] <monadwr> what packages do i require for mp3 support?
[16:51] <chamunks> erUSUL, ok so its what tells alsa where to go than.  So where should this conf file reside?
[16:51] <tim234> btw, linux is unable to play sounds in 2 different applications at the same time?
[16:51] <monadwr> !mp3
[16:51] <IdleOne> !mp3 | monadwr
[16:51] <Armada> croddy: It was working just fine on hardy, I think it may be a regression
[16:51] <Slart> tim234: not if you use pulseaudio
[16:51] <gnuskool> tim234: negative
[16:51] <Slart> tim234: not sure about alsa
[16:52] <VSpike> alsa can do it too
[16:52] <chamunks> IdleOne, wow isnt ubottu polite
[16:52] <tim234> hm whats the default output in ubuntu?
[16:52] <tim234> pulse or alsa?
[16:52] <Slart> VSpike: with the dmix thingy?
[16:52] <Slart> tim234: I think it's pulseaudio
[16:52] <erUSUL> chamunks: on your home dir?
[16:52] <Slart> tim234: you can set it in system, preference, sound
[16:54] <eighthour> can i get a hand with a ontouch 7300 scanner in intrepid....???....
[16:54] <chamunks> erUSUL, asound.conf should sit in my home directory?  I read a tutorial saying something about this file in /etc/
[16:54] <tim234> its set to automatically choose
[16:54] <Slart> tim234:  then I think it will use pulseaudio
[16:54] <tim234> problem mainly appears when listening to music (audacious) and playing world of warcraft through wine
[16:54] <Slart> tim234: I'm not sure if wine uses pulseaudio or goes straight to alsa
[16:55] <VSpike> tim234: There seems to be an issue somewhere - I've had adobe flash prevent pulse from accessing the sound device
[16:55] <uga> guys, anybody using ubuntu as a server here?
[16:55] <snuitje> yes
[16:55] <VSpike> tim234: there may be a problem when you have a mixture of oss, alsa and pulse apps but not sure what exactly
[16:55] <VSpike> uga: yep
[16:56] <tim234> as my audio settings are "auto detect" - how to know what was chosen?
[16:56] <tim234> i know i changed some audio settings in wine to prevent audio-stutter in games
[16:56] <uga> snuitje: VSpike: I need some users to be able to access this one remotely, and I don't want them to learn linux at all... so how to let them change the linux password through the web or something similar? (from windows boxes)
[16:56] <compengi> !info kernel
[16:56] <VSpike> snuitje: when you say access remotely, by what means?
[16:57] <VSpike> snuitje: talking about file sharing?
[16:57] <compengi> !package kernel
[16:57] <Slart> tim234: why not try setting them to something.. so you can test things out
[16:57] <Slart> compengi: what are you looking for?
[16:57] <Slart> compengi: the kernels are called linux-image-blablabla
[16:57] <uga> snuitje: VSpike: I wanted to add the box to their windows network domain, but unfortunately sysadmins are clueless and I don't know the domain admin password. So I cannot use the domain authentication
[16:57] <snuitje> uga: usermin or eBox can do that i think
[16:57] <uga> snuitje: great, thanks
[16:58] <Dominik1> so this is like the 8th time that ubuntu crashed, loosing my work, wtf?
[16:58] <tim234> Slart, got it in audio settings, so i know should try to have use wine the same driver?
[16:58] <compengi> Slart, i'm looking for the kernel version currently in intrepid and that is in hardy
[16:58] <chamunks> erUSUL, would a quick ctrl+alt+backspace work for restarting PA?
[16:58] <Armada> croddy: Fixed it, if I turn off num lock they're working again
[16:58] <erUSUL> chamunks: log out and log in again
[16:59] <pheco> net
[16:59] <nb1> My sound quit working in Ubuntu 8.10 while trying to set up a game with wine. I've removed wine and did an autoremove, have rebooted, but still don't have sound. I can't even get static with cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp. Sound works in Windows, so it has to be an Ubuntu issue. Does anyone have an idea?
[16:59] <compengi> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ seems to be having some issues
[16:59] <chamunks> erUSUL, ok here goes nothing.
[16:59] <tim234> btw more common problem of mine: i have wine installed but accidently deleted the start menu entries, how can i now know what to type to reach its config?
[16:59] <Slart> tim234: see if you can make wine use pulseaudio.. if you can't, make it use alsa
[16:59] <eighthour> i have a onetouch 7300 scanner....the sane pages lists it as "good" but i can't find info on how to get it working....anyone help....???....
[16:59] <Slart> compengi: I think it's called linux-image-generic
[16:59] <Slart> !info linux-image-generic
[16:59] <Slart> yay
[17:00] <sebastian> i have a problem -.-* i cant change to 800x600
[17:00] <compengi> Slart, hmm.. that can't be checked for hardy?
[17:01] <Slart> compengi: oh.. sorry.. hardy.. no, that's right.. don't remember which one is available for hardy
[17:01] <compengi> Slart, packages.ubuntu.com load very slow
[17:01] <Slart> compengi: if you have a hardy install you can check yourself.. apt-cache search linux-image
[17:01] <compengi> i'm still waiting for the page to load
[17:02] <[TiZ]> Hi there. Evolution's default notifications are really, really lame... e.g, "1 new message in Inbox." I'd like it to say the sender and subject of new messages. Can I get it to do this?
[17:02] <compengi> Slart, nope.. i'm running something else. but i'm hunting some a kernel bug. that's why i want to make sure what hardy had in which i didn't have that issue
[17:03] <Slart> [TiZ]: well.. there is small task tray app called.. mail-notification or similar that does that.. not sure if you can make it check your evolution mailbox though
[17:04] <[TiZ]> mail-notification? I'll give it a look-see. Thank you, Slart.
[17:04] <Slart> compengi: ah.. my server is still running hardy.. just a sec and I'll check
[17:04] <chamunks> erUSUL, I think pulse is having issues with my spdif out (IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA)
[17:04] <mars__> use english??
[17:04] <Slart> [TiZ]: you're welcome
[17:05] <mars__> hi everyone
[17:05] <testyy> Hello can Ubuntu get a virus or spyware ?
[17:05] <Manarion> hello
[17:05] <compengi> testyy, but "get" you mean scan?
[17:05] <Slart> !info linux-image-2.6.24-22-generic | compengi
[17:05] <compengi> testyy, or get infected?
[17:06] <Slart> bah.. well.. that's what the package is called in hardy, compengi
[17:06] <testyy> get infected
[17:06] <compengi> Slart, cool.. what's the install date?
[17:06] <forcumang> i've been getting updates everyday for the past 3 days, are you guys getting the same?
[17:06] <mars__> yes
[17:06] <forcumang> k
[17:06] <compengi> !antivirus | testyy
[17:06] <Slart> testyy: viruses for linux are rare.. but there are malware out there.. trojans, rootkits etc.. but those are usually manually planter
[17:07] <testyy> with all the problems Windows gets..........
[17:07] <mars__> wine is hard to use
[17:07] <ifireball> !resolution
[17:07] <forcumang> wine is lame
[17:07] <testyy> ah ok thanks, is there a virus/malware scanner ?
[17:07] <forcumang> testyy => rkhunter
[17:07] <forcumang> for rootkit hunting
[17:08] <mars__> where do everybody come from
[17:08] <BlueBird> Uk
[17:08] <forcumang> usa
[17:08] <rww> !offtopic
[17:08] <Slart> mars__: this isn't a general chat channel.. try #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:08] <maxbaldwin> mars__ the stork, but let's not get offtopic
[17:08] <testyy> Thank you. I'll have a look at rkhunter
[17:08] <Ubunoob> I just downloaded Ubuntu 8.10, burned it to a CD using Disk Utility, and booted from the CD by holding C. I got the menu to choose to install Ubuntu, Check the CD for defects, run the live CD, etc. but when I choose to run the live CD, after loading for what seems like a few minutes, the screen goes black after the loading bar is complete, and remains that way for well over half an hour. I tried 4 times unsuccessfully to boot up
[17:09] <Ubunoob> Oh, I'm on am iMac btw
[17:09] <mars__> i know
[17:09] <Manarion> I've been trying to run WoW in wine. After following the guide in the ubuntu wiki, everything works nice, except one fatal flaw: There's no sound!
[17:09] <mars__> i just .....
[17:09] <Slart> compengi: the creation date for my kernel file is 2008-10-22
[17:09] <forcumang> Manarion => you should install your computer sound drivers in ubuntu
[17:09] <igors> hi all...i'm running ubuntu on a macbook...the mac's builtin mic works well...but when i plug and external mic..the internal keeps working...anybody knows how could i swapt between them?
[17:10] <Manarion> hmm, ok.. but the sound seems to work nicely in ubuntu
[17:10] <ne2k__> igors: you need a mixer application probably.
[17:10] <rmitchell> igors: double click your volume icon in your tray, opening the mixor
[17:10] <igors> ne2k__, alsamixer is not enought?
[17:10] <forcumang> Manarion => oh
[17:11] <ne2k__> igors: dunno, sorry
[17:11] <forcumang> maybe you should try installing your sounds win32 drivers under wine "win32_driver.exe"
[17:11] <igors> rmitchell, i'm on it...trying all kind of combinations...i've enabled everything i could i preferences
[17:11] <forcumang> WoW is being emulated under wine
[17:11] <igors> rmitchell, and i've choosed "line" for "input source"
[17:11] <mars__> well ,i have installed acm ,a game ,but where to use it
[17:11] <rmitchell> igors: under the options, you should be able to change the input sources
[17:11] <Manarion> i just did :(
[17:12] <forcumang> ah
[17:12] <Slart> *ahemulated*... wine.. abbreviation..
[17:12] <rmitchell> thats how my mac records from the jack
[17:12] <red_eyes> hello i wanted to ask something
[17:12] <igors> rmitchell, i dunno why...but i have 3 input sources...i've just choosed "line" on them...
[17:12] <Slart> red_eyes: go ahead
[17:12] <red_eyes> ok
[17:12] <arun_> successfully installed matlab on linux
[17:12] <red_eyes> so
[17:12] <compengi> Slart, seems to be newer than the one i had, but those are only patches. thanks a lot
[17:12] <red_eyes> i have a dell inspiron 8500
[17:12] <red_eyes> and i want to install ubuntu
[17:12] <forcumang> wine is sad man
[17:12] <Slart> compengi: good luck finding that kernel bug.. we don't need those =)
[17:12] <rmitchell> igors: you might want to make sure the switch 'line in as output' is unchecked, as well as 'mic as output'
[17:13] <red_eyes> i went to the dell site to download drivers first
[17:13] <BlueBird> Anyone have any ideas as to why Ubuntu is stuck in a Dos like mode? I have just been trying to install compliz. Got as far as installing some via drivers. But now i'm stuck in dos.
[17:13] <red_eyes> but there are no drivers for ubuntu
[17:13] <Slart> forcumang: it's wonderful considering what they've achieved..
[17:13] <red_eyes> does that mean i cant install ubuntu on this laptop?
[17:13] <rootsnatch> red_eyes: Dell I don't think provides drivers for linux/ubuntu
[17:13] <alsadi> I'm on ubuntu 8.04 I have mounted a remote sftp with nautilus, how to 'cd' there
[17:13] <forcumang> Slart => sorry, let me rephrase, wine is sad imo
[17:13] <mars__> help me please
[17:13] <rootsnatch> red_eyes: I am pretty sure you will be able to install ubuntu and everything should be fine
[17:13] <red_eyes> rootsnatch: so i cant install ubuntu here?
[17:13] <rww> Manarion: open winecfg, go to the Audio tab, and adjust the settings until you find something that works for you. You don't need to get win32 sound drivers or any of that...
[17:13] <Slart> red_eyes: usually linux either comes with drivers included or there are none =/
[17:14] <udzguru> hi there
[17:14] <Slart> red_eyes: have you tried just install it?
[17:14] <igors> rmitchell, i can't find nothing about "output"...is it the same as "capture" ?
[17:14] <alsadi> I guess I found it thanks
[17:14] <red_eyes> i have tried it and it installs perfectly
[17:14] <compengi> Slart, the bug is there and i know where it is. i'm going to recompile the kernel and see. but knowing under which i had no problems is also good info to know and to trace the bug
[17:14] <red_eyes> but my question is if it will need driver
[17:14] <red_eyes> s
[17:14] <rmitchell> igors: what do you have in the 'switches' tab
[17:14] <alsadi> in ~/.gvfs
[17:14] <rootsnatch> red_eyes: well it probably wont
[17:14] <buur> hey.
[17:15] <rww> red_eyes: Ubuntu comes with support for lots of hardware built-in. There's a good chance that you won't need to manually get any drivers at all.
[17:15] <red_eyes> so it will connect to my adsl just fine without needing any drivers
[17:15] <Slart> red_eyes: I don't know the dell model numbers by heart.. but try the live cd first.. then you can see how things work.. check wifi, graphics, networking.. and anything else you can think of..
[17:15] <King> how do i execute a .bat file
[17:15] <igors> rmitchell, IEC958 (unchecked), IEC958 Capture (unchecked) and Speaker (checked)
[17:15] <udzguru> i got a problem. yesterday i installed my brand new 24" screen and now i wanted to set the resolution to the native 1900*1200 but the largest option i get is 1600*1200. how can i change the resolution? :(
[17:15] <Manarion> rww: i've tried everything; ALSA, OSS, emulation not emulation, etc
[17:15] <forcumang> red_eyes => without WLAN, it should recognize eth0 fine
[17:15] <forcumang> ethX*
[17:15] <Slart> King: install windows.. then double click it
[17:15] <rmitchell> igors: what mac, what version of ubuntu?
[17:15] <karname> how can stop pulse audio
[17:15] <arun_> go to administration screen resolution
[17:15] <King> it only work on windows
[17:15] <Slart> King: if you want to run it using wine I think there's a command line wine executable..
[17:16] <red_eyes> another thing: how can i add my adsl connection?
[17:16] <red_eyes> in ubuntu i mean
[17:16] <Slart> King: something like wineconsole or something
[17:16] <King> if is for the game cube
[17:16] <amikrop> How can I choose, that when I have a CD inserted, nothing appears on the desktop?
[17:16] <forcumang> Manarion => there are some things in windows programs that aren't compatible with linux, it's possible WoW's sound segment has some windows-independant needs
[17:16] <udzguru> arun_ : i did that already. there is no option for a 1900*1200 resolution
[17:17] <Slart> red_eyes: I have no idea how your adsl connection works.. my internet connection worked out of the box.. but it's plain ethernet
[17:17] <forcumang> Manarion => but i'm just taking a guess here.
[17:17] <amikrop> How can I choose, that when I have a CD inserted, nothing appears on the desktop?
[17:17] <SliMM> hello
[17:17] <z3ek>   ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[17:17] <z3ek>          installing.  For further details, please see the section INSTALLING
[17:17] <z3ek>          THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver
[17:17] <z3ek>          download page at www.nvidia.com.
[17:17] <FloodBot3> z3ek: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:17] <z3ek> anyone ?
[17:17] <Slart> amikrop: do you still want the hard drives to appear on the desktop?
[17:17] <mars__> i just want to ask one question
[17:17] <forcumang> z3ek => read what it says..
[17:17] <Slart> z3ek: have you read the README file?
[17:17] <amikrop> Slart: They already don't.
[17:17] <forcumang> 'exit X before installing'
[17:17] <igors> rmitchell, the latest LTS ubuntu version...6.06? and intel macbook, the white one
[17:17] <Manarion> hmm, ok.. after reading several forums, it's seems people are able to run WoW in linux
[17:17] <SliMM> I have created a new keyboard layout, but I can't pick it in the layout preferences
[17:17] <Slart> amikrop: ok.. open a terminal, run "gconf-editor"
[17:18] <red_eyes> Slart: in windows i have to add a broadband connection, is it the same in ubuntu or it works just by connectin the cable to the ethernet?
[17:18] <z3ek> how do i get to the readme
[17:18] <z3ek> it only gave me a .run
[17:18] <amikrop> Slart: yes...
[17:18] <Slart> amikrop: then go to apps, nautilus and look around in there.. in desktop there are some settings for the desktop
[17:18] <LjjjL> igors: the latest LTS is 8.04 (Hardy)
[17:18] <SliMM> Manarion: people do run WoW on Linux
[17:18] <King> trying to make game controller work with cube
[17:18] <rmitchell> igors: you can see your ubuntu version by system - administration - system monitor
[17:18] <amikrop> Slart: ok, thanks :)
[17:18] <Slart> red_eyes: it should be installed automatically for you
[17:19] <igors> yeah...sorry..(always forget these numbers)
[17:19] <zamba> what method can i use to figure out what encoding a text file has been written in?
[17:19] <red_eyes> ok Slart thank you
[17:19] <z3ek> it only gave me a .run
[17:19] <z3ek> how do i get to the readme
[17:19] <z3ek> ;S
[17:19] <red_eyes> and what irc client should i use in ubuntu?
[17:19] <LjjjL> zamba: "file filename" is probably smart enough to determine it in most cases
[17:19] <Slart> zamba: I think there are some small apps that can make a guess for you.. but usually there isn't a method that always works
[17:19] <LjjjL> red_eyes: the one you prefer
[17:19] <forcumang> z3ek => google on how to install <your brand> drivers on ubuntu 8.10
[17:19] <BlueBird> Anyone got any ideas...
[17:19] <Slart> z3ek: where did you get the .run file from? perhaps there are instructions there?
[17:19] <BlueBird> Anyone have any ideas as to why Ubuntu is stuck in a Dos like mode? I have just been trying to install compliz. Got as far as installing some via drivers. But now i'm stuck in dos.
[17:19] <SliMM> red_eyes: pidgin is installed by default
[17:19] <red_eyes> i only know mirc so please tell me another
[17:20] <forcumang> z3ek => if you're using nvidia, the nvidia site has instructions
[17:20] <Slart> red_eyes: xchat or xchat-gnome are easy to use and nice
[17:20] <rmitchell> BlueBird: what do you see on your screen?
[17:20] <mon^rch> red_eyes: try konversation
[17:20] <z3ek> ive been looking forcumang
[17:20] <chamunks> red_eyes, if your looking for an irc check out xchat.
[17:20] <igors> rmitchell, are you on a macbook to? do you need more info? :/
[17:20] <LjjjL> BlueBird: that can happen if one tries to install something as core as video drivers in unorthodox ways.
[17:20] <Slart> red_eyes: and pretty similar to mirc
[17:20] <forcumang> red_eyes => IRSSI ;)
[17:20] <red_eyes> ok thank you
[17:20] <z3ek> but it seems to be harder than it looks to get it working pal
[17:20] <SliMM> red_eyes: no, not konversation :P
[17:20] <BlueBird> rmitchell, Simply a dos screen.
[17:20] <rmitchell> igors: i'm on the mid 2007 blackbook, ubuntu 8.10
[17:21] <red_eyes> i think i will use irssi, i like its name lol
[17:21] <Slart> z3ek: btw.. what's wrong with the restricted drivers drivers?
[17:21] <chamunks> Slart, hah you beat me to it.
[17:21] <forcumang> red_eyes => it's full terminal though
[17:21] <Slart> red_eyes: it's terminal only.. =)
[17:21] <forcumang> not any 'mirc' like gui
[17:21] <forcumang> just fyi
[17:21] <LjjjL> BlueBird: that's a terminal, nothing to do with DOS
[17:21] <red_eyes> owh
[17:21] <Slart> red_eyes: but still nice.. I use it myself..
[17:21] <red_eyes> ah well
[17:21] <red_eyes> we will see
[17:21] <forcumang> red_eyes => if you want gui, use xchat
[17:21] <red_eyes> when i install it
[17:21] <igors> rmitchell, any problem with mic or other hardware? actually i still didn't try the camera...
[17:21] <red_eyes> thanks for everything
[17:21] <BlueBird> What's the command to close it?
[17:21] <red_eyes> good bye
[17:21] <mars__> my question is i found that many soft was installed but where to use .i mean a game or bogofilter
[17:21] <FloodBot3> red_eyes: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:21] <rmitchell> igors: i've got all hardware working perfectly
[17:21] <zamba> LjjjL: it interprets it as 8859, but when trying to view the file the special characters haven't been converted correctly
[17:22] <zamba> it works in emacs, though
[17:22] <nibsa1242b> I need help diagnosing CD burning issues. The drive is reconigized, the disk is reconigized, if I use an RW disk, I can burn to the same disk on another computer running Ubuntu. The burn process fails with error: WRITE@LBA=4290h failed with SK=7h/ASC=00h/ACQ=01h]: Input/output error.
[17:22] <Cluber> alsadi: what do you mean
[17:22] <zamba> tried with LESSCHARSET=iso8859
[17:22] <fdude> anyone have any idea why firefox keeps jumping into "fullscreen"? it's not actual fullscreen though, it's just that it covers the upper and lower panels in gnome and hides the top "bar" on firefox so that the minimize, maximize and close buttons disappear..
[17:22] <LjjjL> BlueBird: there isn't one. the problem, most likely. is that X (which is the program that normally provides your graphical interface) isn't starting, because it can't get the video card drivers to work, so you only see the text-mode terminal (which is always there, just hidden behind X)
[17:22] <nibsa1242b> How do I find out which CD drive I have
[17:22] <LjjjL> BlueBird: if X *is* running, then Ctrl+Alt+F7 will bring it up
[17:22] <ne2k__> nibsa1242b: read the label on it?
[17:22] <forcumang> fdude => you have to resize your firefox window
[17:23] <igors> rmitchell, cool...i really need to fix this issue with my mic...the builtin is not perfect for skype...
[17:23] <fdude> i have to click f11 to get it into true fullscreen so that i can "unmaximize"
[17:23] <fdude> o
[17:23] <LjjjL> BlueBird: otherwise, "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start", see what it does, and check the X logs to find out what the problem is (in /var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[17:23] <rmitchell> igors: google 'macbook ubuntu' and the first result is a great tutorial
[17:23] <BlueBird> Ctrl+Alt+F7 simply gives me a blank screen, The last thing I did was install the Via drivers (I've a Webbook running a Via graphics card).
[17:23] <BlueBird> Seems it hasn't loaded properly then. :/
[17:23] <Cluber> i gives me a boner
[17:23] <fdude> thanks forcumang
[17:23] <LjjjL> BlueBird: *how* did you install those?
[17:23] <forcumang> fdude => then take away your top toolbar for a second, move firefox down, and maximize it
[17:23] <forcumang> np
[17:23] <rmitchell> bluebird: you may have to rebuild your xorg.conf
[17:24] <igors> rmitchell, I see this "Mux" in all tutorials...but i don't have in my options..
[17:24] <racquad> hi guys! how can I change the keyboard layout system wide?
[17:24] <nb1> Oh, I finally figured out how to fix my sound! Thanks anyone who tried to help. :)
[17:24] <Slart> fdude: if you're using compiz I think you can hold alt and use leftclick and drag anywhere on a window to move it
[17:24] <BlueBird> These are what i used after DL'ing them to the Desktop.
[17:24] <BlueBird> cd Desktop
[17:24] <BlueBird> ls
[17:24] <BlueBird> tar -zxvf elonexviadrivers.tar.gz
[17:24] <BlueBird> cd ElonexViaDrivers
[17:24] <BlueBird> sudo ./vinstall
[17:24] <SliMM> rmitchell: there's xfix for rebuilding xorg.conf
[17:24] <FloodBot3> BlueBird: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:24] <forcumang> racquad => should be somewhere in 'preferences', or 'administration'
[17:24] <Slart> fdude: very handy if you can't reach the top bar
[17:25] <rmitchell> slimm: ?
 that would be for my user only... I want to change for the system wide
[17:25] <forcumang> ah
[17:25] <forcumang> sorry
[17:25] <SliMM> rmitchell: he doesn't have to do it manually
[17:25] <perlsyntax_> How do i put python 2.6 in my /usr/local?
[17:25] <fdude> Slart, thanks, that worked too
[17:25] <forcumang> hrm, i only know of doing it from install
[17:25] <fdude> i'll remember that for some other time, hopefully i fixed my prob with that other tip
 me too. there must be an apt-get somewhat to configure it
[17:26] <rmitchell> i have always just 'dpkg-reconfigre xserver-xorg'
[17:26] <LjjjL> BlueBird: my condolescences then, you've probably messed up your Ubuntu system quite badly by installing drivers that way :(
[17:26] <LjjjL> BlueBird: but see if "sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg-video-via" might fix it
[17:26] <Meophist> Hello? I've been having problems with Ubuntu and...
[17:26] <Neaai> BlueBird: you might want to see how to uninstall those drivers, then do a reinstall of xorg
[17:27] <Meophist> I've just started trying to install it last night but...
[17:27] <SliMM> so, no one knows what may cause the xkb problem?
[17:27] <BlueBird> k
[17:27] <nibsa1242b> is there a command like lspic or lsdvd that will allow me to know the make and model of a dvd drive?
[17:27] <Cluber> lspci
[17:27] <m031> has anyone had any luck with wireless n and ubuntu 8.10?
[17:27] <n8tuser> m031-> plenty have
[17:27] <LjjjL> nibsa1242b: hdparm -i /dev/whatever
[17:28] <Dominik1> ok so everynow and then randomly my system will go awall and every key I press triggers a screen shot... this will result in a crash (200 plus screen shots)
[17:28] <nibsa1242b> LjjjL: tnx
[17:28] <Meophist> What is a proper way of uninstalling Unbuntu?
[17:28] <Dominik1> then if I unplugg the keyboard and plug it back in the system crashes
[17:28] <Cluber> Meophist: smashing up your hard drive
[17:28] <Meophist> ...
[17:28] <SliMM> Meophist: or perhaps just formatting it
[17:28] <nibsa1242b> Meophist: just format your hard drive.
[17:28] <fdude> p
[17:28] <Meophist> I don't quite want to do that.
[17:29] <chamunks> This is terrible i really want my audio to work again blah.  Why did 8.04 work but not 8.10  this makes no sense.
[17:29] <Dominik1> soo ?  is ubuntu just failing misarbly with my hard ware and I should go back to XP? (aside from poor performance of the open office)
[17:29] <m031> n8tuser, im using the iwlagn driver but all i get i wireless G performance
[17:29] <LjjjL> nibsa1242b: or "sudo lshw -C disk"
[17:29] <SliMM> Meophist: ok, only the partition you installed Ubuntu on
[17:29] <bastid_raZor> Meophist; install something overtop it. which will require you to format the partition
[17:29] <Meophist> Ubuntu installed itself on a hard drive that actually have information I want to keep
[17:29] <Meophist> Instead of the hard drive with crap on it
[17:29] <chamunks> This is so terribly upsetting.
[17:29] <Meophist> Would it be safe to do that?
[17:29] <n8tuser> m031-> come again?
[17:29] <fdude> Meophist, backup that information
[17:29] <fdude> Meophist, then format
[17:30] <bastid_raZor> Meophist; that would be your fault for not putting it on the correct partition
[17:30] <Dominik1> Meophist: I suggest not messing with it untill you have backed up your data, im sorry
[17:30] <Cluber> "sudo lshw -C disk" works a treat.
[17:30] <symons> Meophist: throw your data on another hdd and then format
[17:30] <SliMM> Meophist: yes, it would be safer to backup the information first, but bad things happen all the time, it's a matter of luck
[17:30] <Meophist> Ubuntu seems to be on its own partition but...
[17:30] <Meophist> I didn't know Ubuntu would install on that hard disk.
[17:30] <BlueBird> Hmm.
[17:30] <forcumang> is there a way to 'find' on a full filesystem?
[17:30] <fdude> Meophist, seems like you're done. if you installed ubuntu on a partition with files you wanted to keep, they're gone now
[17:30] <BlueBird> Seems this is a massive mess.
[17:31] <Dominik1> I don't know if you would get rid of the boot loader..
[17:31] <Meophist> No, Ubuntu installed itself in a new partition
[17:31] <BIG-D> hey i have a question
[17:31] <LjjjL> fdude: unless he chose the default options of shrinking the existing partition and making a new one without losing data.
[17:31] <SliMM> Meophist: so format that partition
[17:31] <m031> n8tuser, all i get is 54 Mb/s to my wireless n router it should support about 130 Mb/s
[17:31] <Dominik1> fdude: hes got a hard drive with a windows partition I suppose that has data he wants to keep and then the ubuntu partition
[17:31] <mtinman> Hey everybody, happy Thanksgiving!
[17:31] <Dominik1> sliMM: will that get rid of the boot loader?
[17:31] <BlueBird> Hmm
[17:32] <BlueBird> Seems i Dlk'd a new kernal and the drivers are outdated.
[17:32] <BlueBird> FFs
[17:32] <maxbaldwin> Meophist: do you have another os to put on that conputer?
[17:32] <n8tuser> m031-> do you really honestly expect that rate on the internet?
[17:32] <Dominik1> my thanksgiving isn't too happy, UBUNTU just crashed causing me to loose my work
[17:32] <BIG-D> is there a way to use my wirless card if the card doesent have linux drivers?
[17:32] <forcumang> Dominik1 => if you want to get rid of the boot loader, you need to override it with a new MBR (master boot record)
[17:32] <Meophist> Dominik1: No, The hard drive with the windows partition was the one I wanted to install Ubuntu on but it installed on the other hard drive
[17:32] <rmitchell> big-d: what card do you have?
[17:32] <Meophist> It didn't give me an option of which hard drive to install it on
[17:32] <m031> n8tuser, no but in my local network at least
[17:32] <forcumang> Meophist => yes it does
[17:32] <BIG-D> its some noname brand
[17:32] <LjjjL> !ndiswrapper | BIG-D
[17:33] <igors> anybody know what's "Mux" in preferences of Volume Manager preferences? i should have it but i dont't...
[17:33] <n8tuser> m031-> and what have you accomplish in such?
[17:33] <forcumang> Meophist => it let's you choose 'largest continuous free space' or 'manual', both of those options let you select what you need
[17:33] <BrightLibra> Mux means multiplex
[17:33] <forcumang> the other two may override
[17:33] <Meophist> I chose Manual but it didn't give me multiple hard drives to chose from
[17:33] <tim234> i accidently deleted the start menu entry of wine - how can i now know how to start the wine config?
[17:33] <rmitchell> igors: is it avaliable in volume control preferences?
[17:33] <LjjjL> tim234: "wineconfig"
[17:33] <m031> n8tuser, faster transfers between my workstation and file server
[17:33] <Dominik1> alright guys, no body seems to be of any help with my ubuntu crashing problems is it that my case is isolated and nobody else has problems with it or is it so common that the ubuntu community trys to keep it from us?
[17:33] <tim234> LjjjL, thanks
[17:34] <igors> rmitchell, no it's not...but every tutorial say to check it...but i just don't have it :/
[17:34] <m031> n8tuser, i have 100 Mb/s from my isp so it would be nice to get at least that.
[17:34] <forcumang> Meophist => are you saying you have multiple HDDs and tried to select another HDD?
[17:34] <BrightLibra> PDF file DRM - - Trying to open a protected file under Ubuntu with Adobe says there is a missing Javascript.
[17:34] <forcumang> Meophist => but it wasn't there?
[17:34] <n8tuser> m031-> good luck with that.
[17:34] <rmitchell> igors, in volume control, what device is it?
[17:34] <Meophist> forcumang: Correct
[17:34] <forcumang> Meophist => i see
[17:34] <rmitchell> igors: mine is HDA Intel (alsa mixer)
[17:34] <Meophist> I managed to install it onto the right hard drive by disconnecting the other hard drive though.
[17:34] <forcumang> Meophist => do you have a mix of IDE and SATA or just one?
[17:35] <Manarion> how do i terminate a nonresponding application?
[17:35] <Meophist> forcumang: I'm not really sure.
[17:35] <Slart> Manarion: xkill and click on it..
[17:35] <forcumang> Meophist => do all your HDD's have little thin cables or really wide flat thin cables
[17:35] <Slart> Manarion: or use kill in a terminal.. or the system monitor .. or htop.. or pkill..
[17:35] <forcumang> ?
[17:35] <Meophist> One seems to be thin and the other really wide
[17:35] <BrightLibra> Kill is nice...
[17:35] <neoDite> Does anyone use the mobile internet dongels? I currently use the one on "three" and want to install ubuntu on my laptop too, but this is the only thing thats got me worried
[17:35] <forcumang> Meophist => you may have IDE + SATA
[17:36] <BrightLibra> The thin ones are SATA
[17:36] <Meophist> Is that a bad thing?
[17:36] <karname>   when i change my volume in gnome-volume control or change with keyboard hot key my left channel and right channel doesn't change syncly , how can fix it?
[17:36] <forcumang> Meophist => well it's not particularly good to mix them up in my opinion
[17:36] <King> i need help getting controller working with cube
[17:36] <forcumang> but
[17:36] <Meophist> :(
[17:36] <kitply> Hi everyone, i have recently done a fedora 10 installation on my previous Win XP C:. I would now require to update my /boot/grub/menu.lst file in my Ubuntu 8.10. my disk partition details are http://paste.ubuntu.com/77437/. Can anyone guie me as to what lines i need to add for booting the fedora 10.
[17:36] <Manarion> do i have xkill installed?
[17:36] <forcumang> you should be able to get to the other sata, i'm not sure,
[17:36] <igors> rmitchell, ALSA Mixer too
[17:36] <forcumang> when i had an ide and sata, it was screwing up
[17:36] <tim234> LjjjL, i have wine and wine-dev installed, but theres no "wineconfig"
[17:36] <tim234> how can that be?
[17:36] <forcumang> i took out the IDE, everything went perfect
[17:36] <Slart> Manarion: nor sure.. you might have to install it
[17:36] <Slart> Manarion: sudo apt-get install xkill in a terminal
[17:37] <kitply> *guide
[17:37] <rmitchell> igors: are you sure skype just isn't set to use that input?
[17:37] <SeanTater> Is it possible to connect a Linux computer as a "usb mass storage device" to another computer?
[17:37] <Meophist> Well, I got it on the right hdd now because I disconnected the other one, but now I have two installs
[17:37] <BlueBird> Anyone know the command i can type in to find out what kernal i'm running fron the bash screen?
[17:37] <Slart> Manarion: have you tried just typing "xkill" in a terminal?
[17:37] <BrightLibra> How about my PDF thingie...no Javascript when trying to use a password for getting in...?
[17:37] <m031> uname .-a
[17:37] <Slart> BlueBird: uname -a
[17:37] <chrome_> what is better: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Mobile QL-62 or the Intel Core duo ?
[17:37] <BlueBird> Ty
[17:37] <BrightLibra> Sure SeanTater
[17:37] <forcumang> Meophist => could format both and start fresh
[17:37] <SeanTater> BrightLibra: Something I can read on that?
[17:38] <Slart> !best | chrome_
[17:38] <[c0re]> hi. i need help with pluseaudio http://paste.ubuntu.com/77439/
[17:38] <Meophist> If I delete the Ubuntu install I don't want, would it mess up my computer?
[17:38] <BrightLibra> Sure...google it Sean...seriously. Done all the time.
[17:38] <forcumang> Meophist => no.
[17:38] <igors> rmitchell, i just can't hear with when i speak to the external mic...just with the internal
[17:38] <forcumang> Meophist => depends, actually.
[17:38] <rmitchell> igors, do you have some other recording app?
[17:38] <Manarion> Slart: just did. it worked. :)
[17:38] <King> does anyone play sauerbraten
[17:38] <forcumang> Meophist => if the install you don't want is the one that created the MBR, you need to format both.
[17:39] <igors> rmitchell, gnome-sound-recorder...
[17:39] <forcumang> or the MBR will boot into nothing
[17:39] <igors> same thing
[17:39] <forcumang> aka. grub
[17:39] <rmitchell> igors: does that record from the internal mic?
[17:39] <Meophist> MBR is the boot screen thing?
[17:39] <tim234> LjjjL, its "winecfg" ;-)
[17:39] <igors> rmitchell, yes...always...
[17:39] <forcumang> MBR = Master Boot Record
[17:39] <kitply> Hi everyone, i have recently done a fedora 10 installation on my previous Win XP C:. I would now require to update my /boot/grub/menu.lst file in my Ubuntu 8.10. my disk partition details are http://paste.ubuntu.com/77437/. Can anyone guie me as to what lines i need to add for booting the fedora 10.
[17:39] <forcumang> grub = an MBR used by ubuntu
[17:40] <forcumang> grub is the selection screen you get at boot
[17:40] <BrightLibra> Grub is the boot screen thing
[17:40] <LjjjL> tim234: ah sorry, i remembered wrong
[17:40] <Meophist> Ok, well that would be on my main hard drive then, right?
[17:40] <BrightLibra> Sad PDF....sigh.
[17:40] <forcumang> depends, it's on the last ubuntu you installed
[17:40] <Slart> kitply: I think you might get better answers to thing in a fedora channel
[17:40] <private_meta> hi. I'd need help with putting apache into autostart. it seemed to have worked before i made the upgrade to intrepid, but afterwards it didn't work anymore... can someone give me a hint there?
[17:40] <Slart> thing/this
[17:40] <forcumang> so whichever one you installed last, has the mbr active
[17:40] <King> i need help getting controller working with cube
[17:40] <rmitchell> igors: what options are in the input source in volume control?
[17:40] <Meophist> Then, it should be fine, because the good install came afterwords... I think.
[17:41] <Meophist> Well, I'll just try deleting the old install and see if my computer messes up then.
[17:41] <rmitchell> igors: i only have 'line' and 'mic'
[17:41] <igors> rmitchell, there are 3 input sources here...i've choosen "Line"
[17:41] <neoDite> !vnc
[17:41] <rmitchell> igors: what are the other options?
[17:41] <igors> rmitchell, the options are "line", "mic", "front mic" and "CD"
[17:42] <rmitchell> igors: have you tried all of them?
[17:42] <forcumang> Meophist => i wish you good luck
[17:42] <Meophist> Done...
[17:42] <igors> rmitchell, yes :(
[17:42] <Meophist> ...I think
[17:42] <_cb> What is a good ftp client for ubuntu?
[17:42] <m031> filezilla
[17:42] <LjjjL> !ftp | _cb
[17:42] <Meophist> I also have other questions...
[17:42] <forcumang> filezilla ftw
[17:42] <forcumang> Meophist => did you boot up good?
[17:42] <neoDite> !newsgroup
[17:43] <Meophist> I still haven't rebooted yet.
[17:43] <forcumang> oh okay.
[17:43] <forcumang> 09:42  Meophist> I also have other questions...
[17:43] <forcumang> shoot
[17:43] <forcumang> to kill
[17:43] <BrightLibra> What Javascript is Adobe looking for to do the DRM screen for a protected PDF file?
[17:43] <CC0> anyone tried setting up a cs 1.6 server on ubuntu?
[17:43] <Meophist> In any case, I'm still running Windows because Ubuntu's not working with my Internet connection yet.
[17:43] <forcumang> CC0 => no, but i imagine it's sexy
[17:44] <forcumang> Meophist => wireless, or wired?
[17:44] <BrightLibra> Meo => or both?
[17:44] <Meophist> My wireless card has its own driver, and when I checked Ubuntu's help, it said I needed a certain program.
[17:44] <Meophist> wireless...
[17:44] <forcumang> Meophist => a lot of wireless cards don't even work on linux, make sure yours is compatible
[17:44] <m031> Meophist, ndiswrapper ?
[17:45] <Meophist> m031: yes.
[17:45] <sebastian> -.-* Ohh man -.-*
[17:45] <forcumang> Man, I need to get a wireless router...
[17:45] <forcumang> i'm living in the stone age
[17:45] <Meophist> I couldn't find the program where it asked me to look to install so...
[17:45] <igors> rmitchell, i have line in and line boost in in playback options...line in is max volume, and when i put line boost on max too...i get a big noise...and when i speak in mic i can hear some strange noise too...:S
[17:46] <BrightLibra> For - you do....wireless is fun to fiddle with.
[17:46] <Meophist> I looked for it myself and did a whole bunch of weird stuff in the process...
[17:46] <mtinman> forcumang: You ain't missing that much...
[17:46] <m031> Meophist, download the windows driver for your wireless card
[17:46] <forcumang> meh, the wires aren't even put up anywhere
[17:46] <ComradeHaz> !timer 20min: foodz
[17:46] <forcumang> i just have them strewn across the floor
[17:46] <rmitchell> igors: you must have a different model than i do, we have completely different options
[17:46] <forcumang> heh
[17:46] <ComradeHaz> uh, crap, sorry :D
[17:46] <Meophist> My wireless card's driver is on a disc.
[17:47] <forcumang> Meophist => are you sure that's for linux?
[17:47] <m031> Meophist, xp driver?
[17:47] <forcumang> that disc?
[17:47] <atari> hi
[17:47] <Meophist> m031: Yes.
[17:47] <BrightLibra> Hey Atari.
[17:47] <mtinman> atari: hey.
[17:47] <forcumang> Meophist => xp driver isn't gonna install on ubuntu
[17:47] <forcumang> ubuntu is linux.
[17:47] <BlueBird> whats kinit?
[17:47] <atari> is it possible to add a shell script to the network manager to execute instead of a device or so?
[17:47] <atari> hi BrightLibra, mtinman
[17:47] <Meophist> I thought that was what ndiswrapper was for?
[17:47] <BrightLibra> So no thoughts on my Javascript thingie for Adobe PDF readin'?
[17:47] <rmitchell> forcumang: you need the windows driver for ndiswrapper
[17:47] <ComradeHaz> [17:48:10] <forcumang> Meophist => xp driver isn't gonna install on ubuntu «--- ndiswrapper?
[17:47] <m031> forcumang, with ndiswrapper it just might
[17:48] <forcumang> don't listen to me: i don't even have wireless
[17:48] <forcumang> sorry
[17:48] <forcumang> lmao
[17:48] <mtinman> atari: Happy Turkey day :)
[17:48] <gnutron> BrightLibra: try another pdf reader, see if that works.
[17:48] <Guillem> atari, you can mark a connection not to start by default
[17:48] <Slart> BrightLibra: nope.. never seen a "protected" pdf
[17:48] <Meophist> But I'm having trouble installing ndiswrapper.
[17:48] <ComradeHaz> whatty day?
[17:48] <rmitchell> forcumang, go buy a wireless router on black friday
[17:48] <BrightLibra> Did...it's the silly DRM issues.
[17:48] <forcumang> black friday?
[17:48] <atari> mtinman: we dont care about that here ;)
[17:48] <m031> Meophist, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[17:48] <BrightLibra> University of Phoenix text books, come that way
[17:48] <forcumang> i've never heard of any black friday. o.o
[17:48] <Bokkie> I need coffee
[17:48] <rmitchell> day after thanksgiving... massive sales
[17:48] <forcumang> me too.
[17:48] <forcumang> ah.
[17:49] <forcumang> ic.
[17:49] <atari> Guillem: i have a script for VPN. now i'd like to use them
[17:49] <BrightLibra> Friday when all the retailers go into the black out of the red
[17:49] <Guillem> atari, you can setup the VPN in the network manager as well
[17:49] <johnny5> Anyone know why my download speed when installing packages via apt-get is stuck at 10k?
[17:49] <Bokkie> I need a script for the coffee machine here
[17:49] <Guillem> atari, it is easier since you do not have to sudo each time you need the VPN
[17:49] <Meophist> ...I thought Ubuntu was supposed to be simple...
[17:49] <Slart> johnny5: you're using the big original server instead of a mirror?
[17:49] <forcumang> Bokkie => ain't that the truth
[17:49] <BrightLibra> Uh-oh....is this a Johnny joke?
[17:50] <bakarat> i'm trying to get 1080i, but it is a bit flaky, there is a bit over overscan and although the desktop background is nice & crisp, the stuff on it is a bit...less crisp
[17:50] <atari> Guillem: can youu tell me how? i have a working config for openvpn but i cant add it to the network manager
[17:50] <johnny5> could be, i didn't change anything
[17:50] <Slart> Meophist: who told you those lies? ;)
[17:50] <Bokkie> Always
[17:50] <Dark_Wolf> hi. I'm back again. Anyway, ubuntu is telling me it can't reach the repositories and I'm clearly connected to the internet. Anyone have a reason?
[17:50] <Bokkie> firewall
[17:50] <Guillem> atari, I'm sorry, I thought it was cisco's vpnc
[17:50] <yagga> where can i learn how to compile kernel and or how to make a bootable cd with similar gui to PING (Parted Is Not Ghost)
[17:50] <BrightLibra> Dark - you got the right repositories selected?
[17:50] <johnny5> Slart - how can i change it to something a little fatser?
[17:50] <Meophist> Start: Don't quite remember anymore. Think I'm going to kill the person once I do.
[17:50] <Slart> Meophist: Ubuntu (as most other things) are really simple when it works..  when it doesn't things get scary fast =)
[17:50] <Dark_Wolf> BrightLibra: defaults
[17:50] <atari> Guillem: nope :/
[17:51] <BrightLibra> Dark - uh...pick something else! (lol)
[17:51] <atari> is the network manager part of the gnome project?
[17:51] <Slart> johnny5: in system, administration, software sources you can select mirrors to download from, select something closer to you
[17:51] <Guillem> atari, search if there is a package for network-manager and openvpn
[17:51] <NotADJ> How long until OO.o 3 is in the repos
[17:51] <NotADJ> ?
[17:51] <johnny5> sorry, ubuntu server
[17:51] <[c0re]> i need help. pluseaudio usage 100% cpu
[17:51] <atari> Guillem: yes there is
[17:51] <Meophist> Start: Yeah, well, it's taken many tries for it to "work" for me, and it's still not quite.
[17:51] <forcumang> Meophist => after you learn the first time, you know forever, be patient my friend.
[17:51] <atari> Guillem: but i cant add the existing config
[17:51] <Slart> NotADJ: If I understood the ubuntu people right.. until the ooo-people make a good version of it
[17:52] <m031> Meophist, lspci |grep -i wireless
[17:52] <Meophist> forcumang: The installer CD crashed on me many times....
[17:52] <Slart> johnny5: ah.. you can change it manually in /etc/apt/sources.list.. there might be some apps to do it for you too
[17:52] <Guillem> atari,  :( no option at right-mouse on network-manager -> VPN->new?
[17:52] <Meophist> m031: what?
[17:52] <Sierradump> Can I get someones opinion on a 32bit or 64bit install on a HP Pavillion Laptop??????
[17:52] <Guillem> atari, sorry: left mouse btn
[17:52] <BrightLibra> O.k.... Happy T-Day to all and coffee all 'round!  Aloha!
[17:52] <Slart> Sierradump: how much memory?
[17:52] <atari> Guillem: sure. i can add it. but the plugin doesnt accept the config...
[17:52] <Sierradump> Just wondering if 64bit is still a NO-No....
[17:53] <ComradeHaz> [17:53:26] <Sierradump> Can I get someones opinion on a 32bit or 64bit install on a HP Pavillion Laptop?????? «---- what processor?
[17:53] <bullgard4> What is meant by 'uf_show' in /usr/local/src/gajim-0.11.4/src/common/helpers.py's line "uf_show = _('Free for Chat')"?
[17:53] <m031> Meophist, run that command so i can determine what chip you have
[17:53] <vvv> ﻿a disk partition is shown as vfat in /etc/fstab  and as linux xfs  in cfdisk
[17:53] <ComradeHaz> [17:53:39] <Sierradump> Just wondering if 64bit is still a NO-No.... «--- certainly not
[17:53] <Slart> Sierradump: nah.. 64 bit is alright.. I've run it the last two years
[17:53] <vvv> plz help
[17:53] <Dark_Wolf> BrightLibra: it still can't find any repos on any server
[17:53] <atari> Guillem: i dont know where the debug mode is to find out whats going wrong
[17:53] <Guillem> atari, and you cannot fillin the data?
[17:53] <Sierradump> I have the AMD Turion 64 X2 (2.0Ghz)   Model # TL-60
[17:53] <NotADJ> :O
[17:53] <rmitchell> sierradump: 64 bit makes flash and some other things a pain, but you can't just have half your bits slacking off :)
[17:53] <forcumang> Dark_Wolf => have you tried rebooting?
[17:53] <Meophist> m031: Alright, I guess that means I'll need to restart into Ubuntu then.
[17:53] <atari> Guillem: thats not that easy...
[17:53] <Slart> rmitchell, Sierradump, flash actually works ok these days..
[17:53] <ComradeHaz> [17:54:03] <Sierradump> I have the AMD Turion 64 X2 (2.0Ghz)   Model # TL-60 «--- I'd install 64 bit
[17:53] <Guillem> atari, I don't know, it was soo easy to setup vpnc through nm....
[17:53] <atari> Guillem: i need more options than these in the form. thats why i'd like to use the existing config
[17:54] <m031> Meophist, oh, check in device manager then
[17:54] <vvv> ﻿a disk partition is shown as vfat in /etc/fstab  and as linux xfs  in cfdisk
[17:54] <Sierradump> Will 64bit significantly decrease my battery life?
[17:54] <[c0re]> i need help. pluseaudio usage 100% cpu
[17:54] <Dark_Wolf> forcumang: I just booted
[17:54] <ComradeHaz> Up to you though Sierradump. But not much that's a problem these days
[17:54] <rmitchell> slart: i have it working alright on my 64, but it takes some work, not out of the box
[17:54] <Slart> Sierradump: I don't think so, no
[17:54] <vvv> plz help
[17:54] <Sierradump> What about SKYPE - I read previously (a few months ago) skype wouldn't work in 64bit...
[17:54] <Dark_Wolf> and rebooting would require disconnecting from here
[17:54] <vvv> plz help
[17:54] <ComradeHaz> [17:54:49] <Sierradump> Will 64bit significantly decrease my battery life? «---- don;t see why it should at all
[17:54] <rmitchell> sierradump, skype works fine
[17:54] <forcumang> Dark_Wolf => not if you had another computer, anyways
[17:54] <Slart> rmitchell: oh? never had any problems with it on my machine.. I must be lucky
[17:54] <vvv> plz help
[17:54] <forcumang> Dark_Wolf => obviously it's not your net, so your repos have to be misconfigured
[17:55] <vvv> plz help
[17:55] <Dark_Wolf> :/
[17:55] <Guillem> atari, OH, bad news I guess then. This happened to me with the previous network-manager... with this new one, I can setup all the things I need for my vpnc case.
[17:55] <Dark_Wolf> any ideas?
[17:55] <Slart> vvv: just ask your question.. if noone answers just repeat the question every 5 minutes or so.. don't just say "anyone?" or "plz help"
[17:55] <Sierradump> I am still sort of new to Linux/Ubuntu... I usually get all of my software through package manager - is there good support for 64bit applications now?
[17:55] <forcumang> Dark_Wolf => unless you have <128KBs net
[17:55] <forcumang> that would explain the 10KB/s
[17:55] <m031> Meophist, ndiswrapper isnt that difficult
[17:55] <vvv> ok boss
[17:55] <ComradeHaz> vvv change fstab then?
[17:55] <Meophist> In device manager? I think it's this "802.11g/b Wireless LAN Client Adapter"
[17:56] <ComradeHaz> not really sure what you're saying
[17:56] <Slart> vvv: use the time to google and search the ubuntu forums.. also try improving your question.. make sure all the info is in there.. make it easy for people to answer without interrogating you
[17:56] <rmitchell> sierradump, support is good, pacakges from the package manager are 64 bit, or use the 32 bit libraries, so no worries there
[17:56] <Guillem> atari, have to go... good luck....
[17:56] <vvv> also how can i format the disk?
[17:56] <Meophist> m031: I'm having trouble finding the darn thing.
[17:56] <ComradeHaz> [17:56:49] <vvv> also how can i format the disk? «--- gparted
[17:56] <m031> Meophist, manufacturer?
[17:56] <rmitchell> sierradump, you can even chose 64 bit on getdeb.net
[17:56] <Meophist> Let me look at the box
[17:56] <mker> I set up sftp on ubuntu 8.10 according to http://passthejager.org/blog/?p=102 and started with "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start" but I can't connect to the server. Tried gftp but that didn't work, I'm not sure if it's because I set it up wrong or because I just don't know how to connect to it. Can someone help me out?
[17:57] <Dark_Wolf> forcumang: I'm on 31.1 Kbps
[17:57] <Slart> Sierradump: the only thing I've found that doesn't work is the security software for my bank.. they only offer that as a 32-bit plugin for firefox..
[17:57] <naf> Anyone? On Ubuntu 8.10, with input-hotplug, how do you set the mouse protocol?
[17:57] <forcumang> Dark_Wolf => that explains the 10KB/s connection...
[17:57]  * Meophist has somehow found the box for another wireless pci card...
[17:57] <forcumang> what is the problem...
[17:58] <Meophist> Found it, it's the Cyber Station Wireless PCI Adapter NW-5411
[17:58] <forcumang> Dark_Wolf => the reason your install is not going past 10KB/s, is your net connection, nothing else.
[17:58] <Dark_Wolf> yes... what IS the problem?
[17:58] <naf> Anyone? On Ubuntu 8.10, with input-hotplug, how do you set the mouse protocol?
[17:58] <forcumang> Dark_Wolf => your connection is
[17:58] <ufa> hiiii
[17:58] <Sierradump> rmitchell - when you say use the 32bit libraries - does that mean I can run 32bit applications on my 64bit OS?
[17:58] <ufa> Everytime I reboot, ubuntu changes my MAC address
[17:58] <Dark_Wolf> forcumang: I don't care about speed. it's the fact that nothing connects that bothers me
[17:58] <ufa> why?
[17:59] <Slart> naf: one repeat every 5 minutes is enough.. if someone knows they will answer.. if they don't repeating it every minute won't help
[17:59] <Dark_Wolf> I can't get into the synaptic
[17:59] <Dark_Wolf> or get restricted drivers
[17:59] <rmitchell> sierradump, generally, yes.
[17:59] <forcumang> Dark_Wolf => seeing as irc takes less than 1KBs to use, it could just be the fact that your connection line doesn't reach the repos
[17:59] <Sierradump> Cool so I will go 64bit !   Now the question is do I go 8.10 or 8.04?  Is 8.10 stable yet?
[17:59] <m031> Meophist, looks like a realtek card
[18:00] <ufa> i cannot see a reason to linux change my ip without explicit command to do so
[18:00] <rmitchell> sierradump, i use 8.10, no problems
[18:00] <Slart> Sierradump: try the live cd before you decide.. but I'd go with 8.10
[18:00] <private_meta> hi. I'd need help with putting apache into autostart. it seemed to have worked before i made the upgrade to intrepid, but afterwards it didn't work anymore... can someone give me a hint there?
[18:00] <Sierradump> I am going to be travelling and don't want to run into any issues once abroa
[18:00] <LjjjL> ufa: the *IP*, or the *MAC address*? those are two entirely different things
[18:00] <ufa> the MAC address
[18:00] <Dark_Wolf> forcumang: I've always had access to repos at this speed
[18:00] <rmitchell> sierradump, if you have any interst in mulitple monitor stuff, 8.10 has the best support i've seen
[18:00] <ufa> LjjjL >> Everytime i reboot, my ISP kdo not connect me
[18:00] <detrate> did ubuntu 8.10 change their default sans serif font for web?
[18:01] <Slart> detrate: not that I've noticed..
[18:01] <Sierradump> Do you all use Gnome?  I kind of like KDE -> I know Gnome is the default for Ubuntu... Any opinions on this? Is it just preference?
[18:01] <Slart> Sierradump: try kubuntu
[18:01] <detrate> well then... something weird has happened
[18:01] <LjjjL> ufa: perhaps you have a network card that doesn't really have a fixed MAC, but rather chooses one at random? there should be commands to enforce a given MAC address available in Ubuntu
[18:01] <Sierradump> (rmitchell -> this is a laptop so not sure if I will ever get around to multiple monitors!)
[18:01] <rmitchell> sierradump, i've used both, i prefer gnome, you can install both if you want. install ubuntu first, then install kubuntu-desktop
[18:01] <ufa> LjjjL >> A wasnt aware that exist a nic with "changing MAC"
[18:02] <LjjjL> ufa: i think there are some, not entirely sure though
[18:02] <maxbaldwin> Sierradump: KDE is default in Kubuntu, which I use. Yeah, preference mostly.
[18:02] <rmitchell> kubuntu-desktop is a package, incase that wasn't clear
[18:02] <m031> Meophist, and ubuntu doesnt recognize the card at all?
[18:02] <LjjjL> !info macchanger | ufa, in any case, here's a possibility (i think there are others possily better ones)
[18:02] <_cb> Any good HTML editors for Ubuntu? (I do much of my HTML coding by hand. Didn't like the restrictions of front page.)
[18:02] <forcumang> Dark_Wolf => the only advice i can give on that, is reboot, sorry i couldn't help
[18:02] <Sierradump> Great!  Hey I really appreciate the info guys!  Gonna go d/l 8.10 64bit and give it a shot.  I have about 7 days before I leave so I will play with it to make sure I like it!
[18:02] <rmitchell> _cb, check out nvu
[18:03] <Slart> _cb: try.. hmm.. what's it called.. blue something.. bluefish
[18:03] <Sierradump> So I can get Kubuntu-Desktop (the package) and switch back/forth between gnome and kde?
[18:03] <Meophist> m031: I don't know if it doesn't recognize it or not, but it doesn't look like it could use it.
[18:03] <Slart> !info bluefish
[18:03] <Sierradump> What about applications?  Aren't applications dependent on the GUI?
[18:03] <Slart> Sierradump: sure
[18:03] <Meophist> I tried entering my information for it but it would connect
[18:03] <Slart> Sierradump: they work in both
[18:03] <Meophist> wouln't*
[18:03] <Meophist> wouldn't*
[18:03] <Sierradump> SWEEET!
[18:03] <rmitchell> sierradump, apps just use the libraries, i use amarok on gnome with no problems
[18:03] <Sierradump> Alright I am going to start this install now.
[18:03] <Sierradump> OOOOHHHH 1 more question.
[18:04] <m031> Meophist, http://rtl8180-sa2400.sourceforge.net/ might work with your card
[18:04] <Slart> Sierradump: good luck.. we'll be here if you have more questions
[18:04] <Sierradump> Right now I only have the MK-36 processor in my laptop (single core 64bit 2.0ghz) I ordered the TL-60 and it should be here Saturday or Monday...
[18:04] <Sierradump> TL-60 is dual core, 64bit...
[18:04] <_cb> Is there a way I can see what there is info on? Couple of times people have type info... and I have gottenr really good info.
[18:04] <LjjjL> ufa: see if you have errors logged like in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-526878.html
[18:04] <Sierradump> If I install with the Single core MK-36  processor do I have to REINSTALL when I get the dual core, or can I just pop it in and go?
[18:04] <Slart> _cb: !info works for all packages in intrepid.. same as in synaptic
[18:05] <m031> Meophist, the support for many other chipsets are excellent, try that driver or ndiswrapper with your xp drivers
[18:05] <Slart> Sierradump: I think it will work for both...  as long as both cpu's are 64-bit..
[18:05] <vvv> ﻿Sierradump: GUI? it is not related with processor
[18:05] <forcumang> Sierradump => it really depends, if you want to utilize all of your 64bit processor, you should reinstall with x64 ubuntu
[18:05] <_cb> What I mean is that when someone type !info blue fish | _cb they are directing the bot to give info on blue fish. How can I see what other topics does the bot have information on?
[18:06] <forcumang> if you don't care much about maxing out your 64bit, stay with 32
[18:06] <vvv> ﻿Sierradump:GUI? it has nothin to do with processor
[18:06] <Meophist> I would like to try ndiswrapper, but the help that was included in the OS didn't quite pan out.
[18:06] <rmitchell> sierradump, when you install, put you're /home/ in a seperate partition, that way if you have to reinstall, you don't lose your data
[18:06] <kitche> _cb: by looking at the brain of the bot hang on a sec
[18:06] <Slart> _cb: !info just fetches information on packages.. there are lots of other factoids.. try !help or !bot
[18:06] <rmitchell> i recommend doing that with any install, saved my data countless times
[18:06] <vvv> ﻿Sierradump:
[18:06] <_cb> !help
[18:06] <kitche> !ubottu > _cb
[18:07] <ufa> LjjjL >> Thx, I will check it out
[18:07] <vvv> ﻿Sierradump:GUI has nothing to do with processor
[18:07] <bakarat> i have nvidia 8600 GTS and a screen capable of 1080i, but i can't get it to work perfectly, there is overscan when i activate it and although the background is crisp, the icons on it etc are a bit shaky, how can i fix this?
[18:07] <_cb> I just love this channel ;) thanks!
[18:08] <vvv> i mean- changing ur processor wont affetct
[18:08] <Sierradump> Yes, right now I have single core 64bit processor but am getting a DUAL core 64bit processor in a day or 2... Just wondering if I can install now and then put new processor in, or if I have to REINSTALL after a processor upgrade?
[18:08] <forcumang> Sierradump => no.
[18:08] <Meophist> m031: I downloaded it, how would I use it once I get into ubuntu?
[18:08] <forcumang> Sierradump => you should not have to reinstall
[18:08] <rmitchell> sierradump, after you throw in the new processor, just check system monitor and see if its showing both of your cores, if so, you're set
[18:08] <Slart> Sierradump: if you moved from 32-bit to 64bit you'd have to reinstall.. but just changing single core to dual core is alright afaik
[18:09] <vvv> if u r upgrading-> it always works
[18:09] <Dark_Wolf> anyone have any clue why my computer doesn't find repos?
[18:09] <jgb> I tried playing a rmvb file in Mplayer by setting the codecs to Realvideo in Mplayer's settings.  Now _every_ player, mplayer, vlc and kmplayer(with xine/totem whatever) plays ALL video in a washed-out pastel colour.  Any ideas what is causing this? (I have changed the setting back)
[18:09] <vvv> ya..slart is right!
[18:09] <igors> anybody else using ubuntu in macbook? and could help me with mic...?
[18:10] <Sierradump> Great!  I am super stoked... Thanks alot guys - I am sure I will be back here to pick your brain on software packages! In the meantime I am off to install!
[18:10] <Sierradump> Thanks again!
[18:10] <forcumang> Sierradump => have fun.
[18:10] <Slart> jgb: try checking the gstreamer-properties.. afaik they all use those
[18:10] <vvv> ﻿Sierradump: bi
[18:10] <rmitchell> jgb: i had that problem a while ago, can't remember how i fixed it, i think i went into totem (movieplayer)'s settings
[18:10] <forcumang> Slart => i've never found this out, what does afaik mean?
[18:11] <Slart> forcumang: as far as I know
[18:11] <forcumang> ah.
[18:11] <rmitchell> jgb: in totem's settings, you can adjust the saturation, brightness, etc, i think this could be your problem, there is a 'reset to defaults' button
[18:12] <Meophist> ...I just noticed that m031 disconnected :(
[18:12] <Slart> forcumang: here are a lot of them =) http://www.acronymfinder.com
[18:12] <Meophist> So now I don't know what to do orz
[18:13] <wib> hi. vlc/totem/mplayer quit without an error message when trying to play back any video file. ubuntu 8.10, ati x1300, radeon driver, compiz on(, fglrx is not an option ;))
[18:13] <bombshelter13> If i have the packages I use installed on one machine and want to duplicate the same package selection to another machine with a fresh install, what's the easiest way to do this?
[18:13] <Slart> !clone
[18:13] <Dark_Wolf> never mind
[18:13] <Dark_Wolf> found them
[18:14] <jgb> Slart: no luck, will try rmitchell's idea
[18:14] <deaddog> hello
[18:14] <Juak> hi there
[18:14] <bombshelter13> ubottu: Thanks!
[18:14] <bombshelter13> Slart: thanks :P
[18:14] <Meophist> nyak! This stinks...
[18:15] <IceMax> Hey there, i just did a bunch of updates for ubuntu 8.04 64 bit, and now it hangs when i try to restart
[18:15] <Juak> help! anyone knows what could this mean: "stdin: not a tty" ???
[18:15] <rmitchell> juak: what produces that error?
[18:16] <maxbaldwin> juak: what command did you run to do that?
[18:16] <jgb> rmitchell: nope, it must be deeper than that...
[18:16] <gnutron> Juak: literally = standard terminal display IN is not a teletype, or aka terminal.
[18:16] <superkiw2> hello, i'm using ubuntu desktop version as a server - how do I disable the gdmgreeter? I don't want it start at boot.
[18:17] <Meophist> Can somebody else help me get my wireless card working?
[18:17] <rmitchell> meophist, where are you stuck at?
[18:17] <maxbaldwin> superkiw2: why not use Ubuntu Server 8.10 / 8.04?
[18:18] <shovi> Hey does WINE work with Adobe Fireworks 4???
[18:18] <Juak> rmitchell, maxbaldwin: dsh (dancer's shell) with a group of remote hosts
[18:18] <shovi> CS4
[18:18] <Meophist> m031 told me to download the thing at http://rtl8180-sa2400.sourceforge.net/ and I don't know what to do next
[18:18] <forcumang> Meophist => Is your card in this list? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[18:18] <IceMax> ﻿Hey there, i just did a bunch of updates for ubuntu 8.04 64 bit, and now it hangs when i try to restart. any ideas?
[18:19] <rmitchell> jauk: ctrl+alt+F1 will get you into a tty (teletype) terminal, log in and run it from there, see what it does
[18:19] <unop> superkiw2, disable the gdm service
[18:19] <Meophist> forcumang: I don't think so.
[18:19] <Juak> gnutron:  i understand it semantically too but i don't know what could be possibly causing it
[18:19] <unop> !boot | superkiw2
[18:19] <maxbaldwin> Juak:  you probably need to assign it to a different tty, like  tty1  instead of stdin. and then Ctrl+Alt+F1 to switch to tty1
[18:19] <forcumang> Meophist => that list is the supported wireless cards of ubuntu
[18:19] <forcumang> if your card is not there, you can not use it
[18:19] <Meophist> ...
[18:19] <dfgas> anyone have a repo for ubuntu for compiz 0.7.9? i had one but the mainainer is not maintaining it for now  or one that has more plugins for compiz
[18:19] <bombshelter13> Slart: Do you know if that command just installs the packages from the original on the new one? Or will it also uninstall packages on the new machine not present on the old one?
[18:19] <forcumang> Meophist => same thing with my old wireless usb'er
[18:19] <superkiw2> maxbaldwin: The installed version works like a charm: when I installed it I tried with server version first, but it didn't work well with my other computer, but the default one does.
[18:19] <genii> IceMax: Maybe ctrl-alt-f8  and see what it's trying to work on
[18:19] <rmitchell> meophist, what card do you have?
[18:19] <Slart> bombshelter13: oh.. I have no idea.. never used it
[18:20] <Meophist> Cyber Station NW-5411 Wireless PCI Adapter
[18:20] <gnutron> Juak: i undestand, the input command is looking for a terminal to use for output, and isn't finding one. very interesting, what did you type?
[18:20] <nb1> superkiw2: I think if you disable S30gdm in the appropriate /etc/rc#.d directory it will not startup
[18:20] <Slart> bombshelter13: the first command just makes a text file of the packages installed on a machine
[18:20] <superkiw2> thanks, i'l try that.
[18:20] <Meophist> forcumang: Ubuntu's help said I might be able to use the windows driver for it using ndiswrapper...
[18:20] <Slart> bombshelter13: the second installs all those packages on the second machine
[18:20] <Jhon> I need to create a scritp who is treasures for the script????
[18:21] <rmitchell> meophist: do you have the windows driver?
[18:21] <Slart> bombshelter13: so it won't sync the packages installed
[18:21] <Meophist> rmitchell: Yes, right in front of me on a CD.
[18:21] <bombshelter13> Slart: Hmm, okay :/ May still use it if I can't find something better.
[18:21] <Meophist> I tried the help with Ubuntu but I think I couldn't complete step 2.
[18:21] <forcumang> ndiswrapper didn't even work for my wireless usb thing
[18:21] <gnutron> Juak: read your /var/log/messages or syslog for clues possibly... as root
[18:21] <forcumang> it was so cheap, heh
[18:21] <superkiw2> oh and another thing: I use trickle to control download/upload speed of a program. But the trickle program uses 100% of the cpu. I use cpulimit on trickle to make it not use 100% but, it shouldn't use 100% cpu. WHat's wrong?
[18:22] <rmitchell> meophist, copy if from the cd to your hard drive, you should copy the .INF file
[18:22] <bombshelter13> Slart: Maybe I could make a modified version of that command to create a list of the packages that are not installed on the first machine, instead of the ones that are installed... and then use that file to uninstall the same packages on the second machine
[18:22] <Meophist> I've tried that, but simply copying the inf file didn't make my wireless card work.
[18:22] <nb1> superkiw2: maybe this would do it: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm , or use one of ubuntu's configuration programs to disable it
[18:22] <jgb> rmitchell: I fixed it by resetting the hue in gmplayer's equaliser.  no idea where it is stored for all the apps that use it
[18:22] <basso> Hello, I simply cannot get Catalyst Control Center to start, i double click and nothing happens
[18:22] <genii> rmitchell: You need also any .sys files or so on as well.
[18:22] <mroc> hi all.  how do i change my login screen resolution?  it went way high after a recent update.  there doesn't seem to be an obvious way.
[18:22] <rmitchell> meophist: right, next step
[18:23] <Juak> gnutron: thanks. i'm trying also in ubuntu-server to fix this. the command i'm using is "dsh"
[18:23] <rmitchell> meophist: sudo ndiswrapper -i /your/driver.inf   thats case sensitive
[18:24] <Meophist> Wouldn't I have to install ndiswrapper first?
[18:24] <rmitchell> jgb: gld you figured it out
[18:24] <rmitchell> meophist: i belive its installed by default. sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper, if its not
[18:24] <forcumang> kinda hard to do, if he has no internet.
[18:24] <forcumang> :P
[18:24] <Slart> bombshelter13: sure.. it's just text files so it just takes some work.. and text-file-mangling voodoo
[18:25] <Meophist> Ok, I guess I'll try that.
[18:25] <cappiz> i i have a ssh server on a network 10.0.0.0 ith IP (NAT internal) i can connect to it externaly. And i want to ssh into it and do a ssh tunnel so i can connect to 10.0.0.138 (another machine on the NAT'ed network)
[18:25] <rmitchell> meophist: you have a wired connection?
[18:25] <Meophist> rmitchell: No.
[18:25] <cappiz> im sitting on the outside of the network
[18:25] <cappiz> how would i make the tunnel?
[18:25] <bombshelter13> Slart: well I'm probably gonna try it out later tonight, I'll see if I can figure out the right syntax
[18:25] <Slart> bombshelter13: good luck =)
[18:26] <Sierradump> Can anyone tell me what application Chuck is using at 33 seconds in on this video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE0_Vc3BfXs&feature=channel   --- The application in question is the one that shows the CPU usage, ram/cache/etc.. memory usage, network usage etc... --->  It is all seamlessly integrated into the desktop background.  They aren't widgets (can't click/drag them around)...
[18:26] <forcumang> Meophist => you could always download the package in windows, and transfer it over, if you don't have it installed by default.
[18:26] <rmitchell> meophist:just type ndiswrapper into a terminal, see if it can find it
[18:26] <Slart> Sierradump: sounds like conky
[18:26] <Meophist> I'll try...
[18:27] <Meophist> In the help, it said to install the program using this other thing but I couldn't find it in the other thing.
[18:27] <forcumang> ill see for you right now
[18:27] <forcumang> i havent installed it
[18:27] <Sierradump> Chuck put out a live DVD of some software he had been working on and I really liked that utility! but I couldn't find it anywhere...
[18:27] <forcumang> sec
[18:27] <Sierradump> Not sure if it matters but he is using Debian?
[18:27] <forcumang> no
[18:27] <forcumang> ndiswrapper is not default with ubuntu 8.10 intrepid
[18:27] <forcumang> btw
[18:27] <FloodBot3> forcumang: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:27] <Dreamglider> is amarok the best audio player for linux?
[18:27] <rmitchell> dreamglider: yes
[18:27] <Dreamglider> or what would be the best to use*
[18:28] <Slart> !best | Dreamglider
[18:28] <Slart> Dreamglider: no
[18:28] <Meophist> Although with the old install I really fooled around some stuff and...
[18:28] <Maveas> !youtube
[18:28] <LF|Irssi> Sierradump: naaa, conky pretty much works in all distros not just debian
[18:28] <bastid_raZor> Sierradump; i use conky much in the same way. it works very well.
[18:28] <Slart> Dreamglider: I like mpd.. but it all depends on what you want
[18:28] <Meophist> Found ndiswrapper on the CD and installed it but...
[18:28] <private_meta> damn... i wondered why noone wrote here... my session timed out XD
[18:28] <rmitchell> dreamglider, there are several options, depends on what you like, i like amarok, and it'll work with gnome just fine
[18:28] <maxbaldwin> Maveas: Please don't play with the bot.
[18:28] <Dreamglider> i just want a good audio player that does not take ages to load my music colletion
[18:28] <planttt> hey all. I have some WLAN oriented questions; how is it possible that iwconfig says I am connected with 11MBits/s, but I don't get more than 900kBits/s in copying data over the net
[18:28] <Maveas> Huh? Play with the bot?
[18:28] <Slart> Sierradump: it might be some kind of desklet too.. those are pretty polished and blingy
[18:29] <Dreamglider> like amarok takes for ever to load
[18:29] <Meophist> The next step in the help didn't told me to do something with something that didn't exist.
[18:29] <ph8> what's the imap server of choice these days? dovecot?
[18:29] <Sierradump> is Conky "clunky" as in obtrusive to the desktop?  Whatever chuck used in that video is sweet - you can put icons ontop of the graphs etc... The monitors/meters/graphs etc... integrate into the background image...
[18:29] <n8tuser> planttt-> no guarantees of how much traffic your ISP or the far end server doles out eh?
[18:29] <planttt> ph8: yes, it is simple and it just works
[18:29] <bastid_raZor> Dreamglider; try rhythmbox
[18:29] <fosco_> Dreamglider, try banshee, listen, elisa, audacious...
[18:29] <Maveas> I've got no sound when I'm watching videos on YouTube. How can that be? :S
[18:29] <planttt> n8tuser: it's all local, no provider in the mix
[18:30] <ph8> planttt:  Suitable for a mass shared hosting situation?
[18:30] <linny> hi this might be a really silly question but is it possible to change file permissions recursively , atm i only know how to change one file at a time ?
[18:30] <bastid_raZor> Sierradump; clunky, no.. you can put conky on the widget layer.
[18:30] <Slart> linny: there is a -R switch
[18:30] <gnutron> linny: chmod -R
[18:30] <planttt> ph8: we use it at work, I still use courier for my hosting company
[18:30] <rmitchell> meophist, all you need to do is install the ndiswrapper-common package, but if you don't have net access, that could prove difficult
[18:30] <Slart> linny: man chmod will show you the way to enlightenment =)
[18:30] <nb1> linny: chmod has a -R option for recursive use
[18:30] <Meophist> I think I managed that somehow.
[18:30] <planttt> ph8: mostly because it was setup a few years ago
[18:30] <n8tuser> planttt-> what devices you have in between ?
[18:30] <linny> i was using small r :) thanks guys
[18:30] <rmitchell> meophist, so you have it installed?
[18:30] <nb1> linny: also, chmod accepts wildcard characters
[18:30] <Jaza> hi I am new to linex and i am trying to use my cam
[18:31] <Meophist> On my old install, which I deleted.
[18:31] <forcumang> happy thanksgiving everyone
[18:31] <Jaza> happy thanksgiving
[18:31] <forcumang> let's celebrate us eating with the people we killed soon after
[18:31] <forcumang> hurray!
[18:31] <planttt> n8tuser: i have a laptop connected by wire to a linksys wrt54, and then a wlan link to a laptop upstairs, running on a conceptronic (atheros, madwifi drivers)
[18:31] <Meophist> I searched the Ubuntu CD with the keywords in the help...
[18:31] <linny> ﻿nb1: i did sus the wildcards but thats no good for deep dir trees thanks again all
[18:31] <LF|Irssi> lol
[18:31] <Jaza> CAN ANYONE HELP ME WITH MY CAM STITUATION?
[18:31] <Meophist> But I'm not too sure if I installed it correctly.
[18:31] <planttt> n8tuser: then, copying a 10MB file with netcat gives me 900kBits/s in iptrad
[18:31] <Slart> Jaza: not if you keep yelling like that
[18:31] <planttt> s/iptrad/iptraf/
[18:32] <ph8> planttt:  I have courier now, but i've got a user with a 3GB mailbox (or entire account if you prefer) and courier keeps telling him he's exceeded his quota, i've tried setting quotas in all sorts of different ways and can't shake it
[18:32] <Jaza> Soryy
[18:32] <r3r3> Jaza, try writing bigger
[18:32] <rmitchell> jaza, what kind of camera?
[18:32] <Jaza> its a logitech
[18:32] <planttt> ph8: tell him to clear his mailbox, 3G is WAAAY too much
[18:32] <mroc> hi all.  how do i change my login screen resolution?  it went way high after a recent update.  there doesn't seem to be an obvious way.
[18:32] <Jaza> its working and we didn't download the disc
[18:32] <Meophist> I know next to nothing about actually using *nix systems so...
[18:32] <Jaza> so we put it on the and its very dark
[18:33] <planttt> ph8: anyway, at work we use dovecot, one employee uses a lot of mail (as in many bytes in too many mails), dovecot never complained
[18:33] <Meophist> I was really just doing stuff blind hoping it would work.
[18:33] <n8tuser> planttt-> there are no guarantees of speed with wifi, lots of overhead too
[18:33] <Jaza> It's working, but the cam is dark and  you can see the images
[18:33] <planttt> n8tuser: i was afraid of that, i just felt 90% overhead was a little much
[18:33] <serkan_> e-kolay.net
[18:33] <rmitchell> meophist, you need ndiswrapper, but there are two packages i think: ndiswrapper-common and ndiswrapper-utils
[18:33] <Meophist> I still don't know how installations or file structures work in *nix systems.
[18:33] <planttt> n8tuser: i'm on my way to buy one of these ethernet-over-power-cable things
[18:34] <Meophist> rmitchell: do you have the Ubuntu CD right now?
[18:34] <gnutron> Jaza: adjust the video settings in the viewer you use maybe.
[18:35] <kiamo> yo
[18:35] <gnutron> Jaza: e.g. brightness, contrast, et cetera.
[18:35] <rmitchell> meophist, i do not. i think i've found a website with the packages on it though, if you can download them from the machine your using irc on, and get them to the machine with no wireless
[18:35] <Meophist> rmitchell: It's the same machine...
[18:35] <IceMax> would anybody like to help me? i just installed a bunch of updates for ubuntu 8.04 64-bit, and now its hanging when i try and boot it. it seems to get stuck loading kernel modules and/or loading manual drivers
[18:35] <rmitchell> meophist, how are you on irc with no wireless?
[18:35]  * Meophist is on Windows right now.
[18:36] <newb101> hi room, would anyone be able to help me getting my sound working within 8.10?
[18:36] <Meophist> Windows drivers work quite well with Windows, even without ndiswrapper.
[18:36] <alexi5> for virtualizting solaris 10 and windows xp (not to put in a production environment) on a Ubuntu 8.10 host is a athlon x2 5400 CPU good enough or have i enetered the realm where a quad core is needed ?
[18:36] <planttt> Meophist: not always
[18:36] <cappiz> i i have a ssh server on a network 10.0.0.0 ith IP (NAT internal) i can connect to it externaly. And i want to ssh into it and do a ssh tunnel so i can connect to 10.0.0.138 (another machine on the NAT'ed network)
[18:36] <cappiz> im sitting on the outside of the network
[18:36] <cappiz> how would i make the tunnel?
[18:36] <Slart> alexi5: I'd say it depends on what you'll be doing with the "guests"
[18:36] <lorenzo> hi, how can i transfer the phonebook on my cellphone to ubuntu via bluetooth for a backup?
[18:37] <Slart> alexi5: just running the systems on idle won't use much power
[18:37] <basso> in #club-ubuntu
[18:37] <rmitchell> meophist, thats fine too, just download them, and put them on a usb stick or whatnot, copy them to the linux... but it'll be hard to talk you through it if you can't be on irc while you're working on it
[18:37] <Meophist> planttt: Well, I'm talking about right now for me. This driver caused me alot of trouble even in windows, but it's working for me in windows right now.
[18:37] <gnutron> IceMax: the machine was probably busy when you re-booted and now it's confused, try  a safe boot and let it run awhile. linux runs better the longer it runs.
[18:37] <basso> hey thx man!
[18:37] <Meophist> rmitchell: Which is why I want to know everything before I... wait a second.
[18:37] <basso> now i got 3840x1080!
[18:37] <basso> you are awsome!
[18:37] <nb1> alexi: I often run multiple virtualized guest systems and I have an old single-core FX53 cpu, which does fine. the only downside is that I can't virtualize 64-bit guests
[18:37] <Slart> alexi5: you'll be using some memory though..
[18:37]  * Meophist has another computer....
[18:37] <Meophist> just a sec.
[18:38] <Driv3r912> I have Ubuntu 8.10 installed on my machine. I was just wondering where I can obtain the volume monitor program again? I tend to use it when working with audio and some video applications.
[18:38] <Driv3r912> Can I do an apt-get install or do I need to do something else?
[18:38] <rmitchell> meophist: heres the website, http://www.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper
[18:38]  * Meophist Meophist|justasec
[18:38] <nb1> alexi: I have 2GB of ram and a lot of disk space however... I would recommend that at least
[18:38] <Slart> Driv3r912: you mean for pulseuadio? or is it some kind of special volume app?
[18:38] <forcumang> is there a terminal cmd that checks my ram usage?
[18:38] <Slart> forcumang: free
[18:38] <alexi5> Slart:compiling  c programs on both and  test network applications on both with them networked together ?
[18:38] <IceMax> gnutron: it seems to get stuck at the same spot in safe mode, should i jsut let it sit there?
[18:38] <forcumang> k
[18:39] <Slart> forcumang: also, htop has a memory thingy
[18:39] <forcumang> aw lame
[18:39] <Meophist> ok, so rmitchell: What do I download there?
[18:39] <Slart> alexi5: no worries then.. go ahead
[18:39] <alexi5> Slart: i have already decided to get 8GB of ram
[18:39] <forcumang> linux 32bit still does the same as windows 32bit with the ram
[18:39] <forcumang> i guess ill be installing x64 soon
[18:39] <alexi5> ok
[18:39] <forcumang> bleh
[18:39] <gnutron> IceMax: that 'might' work. something might be really borked though
[18:39] <Slart> alexi5: I've run 4 vms on my 4GB machine without any problems
[18:39] <alexi5> ok  i should have no problems then
[18:39] <alexi5> thanks
[18:39] <Driv3r912> It was the volume monitor you can access via the Edit Menus in Ubuntu.
[18:40] <Slart> forcumang: yes.. you can use PAE on the server kernel.. but not on the desktop kernel
[18:40] <Driv3r912> It was titled gvfs-hal-volume-monitor
[18:40] <xscottx3> what would the benefits of x64 ubuntu over x32?
[18:40] <nb1> alexi5: I've run Server 2003+Vista+XP side by side on a 2GB machine with my FX53 cpu :p You'll be ok
[18:40] <forcumang> xscottx3 => for example
[18:40] <Slart> xscottx3: amount of memory, mainly
[18:40] <forcumang> i have 8GB ram
[18:40] <forcumang> but with 32bit
[18:40] <forcumang> i have 3.3
[18:40] <FloodBot3> forcumang: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:40] <steel_lady> erUSUL are you still here?
[18:40] <Slart> !PAE
[18:40] <rmitchell> meophist: download ndiswrapper-common_1.53-2ubuntu1.deb   and  ndiswrapper-utils-1.9_1.53-2ubuntu1.deb
[18:40] <Slart> bah
[18:40] <Driv3r912> nbl, x64 would allow to detect more RAM I believe over 2GB.
[18:40] <rmitchell> are you 64 bit or 32 bit?
[18:41] <xscottx3> i know the memory thing, anything besides the increased memory availabilty?
[18:41] <bakarat> k guys, my 1080i monitor is really shaky, i've been lead to believe it could be the refresh rate, how do i alter this?
[18:41] <forcumang> rmitchell => 64, that's why, i need to reinstall
[18:41] <forcumang> but idc for now
[18:41] <forcumang> its thanksgiving
[18:41] <Meophist> I think it's 32 at the moment
[18:41] <forcumang> oh@him
[18:41] <forcumang> afk
[18:41] <IceMax> gnutron: is there a way to reinstall ubuntu without destroying everything on the disk?
[18:41] <rmitchell> meophist: then on the second pacakge, chose the one with everything i said, and then i386 on the end
[18:42] <steel_lady> who can help me fixing audio on skype please?
[18:42] <nb1> Driv3r912: I know I have a 64bit cpu but I use 32bit ubuntu, and I'm doing OK with 2GB :) I know x64 can use memory past 4GB.
[18:42] <forcumang> nb1 => past 3.3gb*
[18:42] <Meophist> rmitchell: Done
[18:43] <forcumang> wtf
[18:43] <rmitchell> meophist: you in ubuntu on the machine?
[18:43] <gnutron> IceMax: not that i know of, i'm afraid. you might try a long wait, or possibly boot with parameters to avoid the bug. i'm not the expert you need.
[18:43] <forcumang> my ubuntu is using 1.2gb of ram?
[18:43] <forcumang> uhh
[18:43] <nb1> forcumang: well I know Windows reserves the upper 1GB or so for I/O mapping, I don't know where the line is in Linux
[18:43] <forcumang> thats not cool lol
[18:43] <Meophist> rmitchell: what?
[18:43] <Driv3r912> nbl: If you have a 64bit cpu, then it would be your best bet to get the 64 bit version of Ubuntu. That way, you have full advantage of your system. There isn't much difference between 32 and 64 bit, except 64 bit supports systems that have 64-bit processors and more memory allocation.
[18:43] <nb1> I'm not the one having a problem though, I was answering to alexi5!
[18:43] <IceMax> ok, i'll try waiting it out
[18:44] <n8tuser> IceMax-> what is the issue?
[18:44] <rmitchell> meophist: you have two machines now, right? boot into ubuntu on the one with no wireless, and copy those two files over there
[18:44] <Slart> forcumang: unused memory is wasted memory
[18:44] <rmitchell> icemax: you can move your /home/ directory to a seperate partition, thus saving most of your data
[18:44] <Slart> forcumang: windows and linux see it differently
[18:44] <Meophist> Yeah, wait just a sec.
[18:44] <nb1> Driv3r912: I am testing Ubuntu 64 on another partition, I just have not yet switched to it entirely
[18:44] <gnutron> IceMax: good luck, i would probably re-install, but i posess no patience :)
[18:44] <IceMax> rmitchell: ﻿i just installed a bunch of updates for ubuntu 8.04 64-bit, and now its hanging when i try and boot it. it seems to get stuck loading kernel modules and/or loading manual drivers
[18:44] <steel_lady> please, if ubuntu does not install well my specific sound card and is not offered in hardware drivers, what can I do?
[18:44] <forcumang> Slart => used: 1233224
[18:45] <forcumang> but all i have up is irssi in a term
[18:45] <forcumang> and codeblocks
[18:45] <TokenBad> ok..I installed ubuntu 8.10 and then tried to install the nvidia drivers..everytime I try to install the drivers..and reboot..it errors out with a no resume image doing normal boot
[18:45] <forcumang> lol
[18:45] <FloodBot3> forcumang: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:45] <rmitchell> icemax: what manual drivers do you have?
[18:45] <Slart> forcumang: Mem:       4054840    4027604      27236, I'm just running irssi and gnome..
[18:45] <Meophist|other> Finally here...
[18:45] <TokenBad> I have tried to do the sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg with no luck
[18:45] <forcumang> i see.
[18:45] <TokenBad> so if anyone can help would love to get it
[18:45] <Meophist|other> Ok, restarting now.
[18:45] <CarlFK> what is good for video web cam chat?
[18:45] <Slart> forcumang: it uses a lot of the memory for caching and such
[18:46] <nb1> Driv3r912: I was a little annoyed that ZSNES was not packaged for Ubuntu 64 though, then again, the i386 package does not work out of the box either so I suppose its no matter :p
[18:46] <forcumang> ah i see.
[18:46] <Slart> forcumang: it will give the memory back if an application wants it
[18:46] <IceMax> rmitchell: i have no idea
[18:46] <Slart> forcumang: I run my server on 512 MB.. it's barely using 90MB of those.. so it can be lean if it has to
[18:46] <rmitchell> icemax: hannging on boot, reboot, or shutdown?
[18:46] <IceMax> i did try installing the new creative x-fi linux drivers before it started hanging
[18:47] <IceMax> rmitchell: hanging on booting
[18:47] <Driv3r912> nbl: You can run ZSNES in Ubuntu x64. You just need to build it from source.
[18:47] <rmitchell> icemax: when you boot in safe mode, can you see what step its hanging on?
[18:47] <Dillizar> !skype
[18:48] <rmitchell> meophist: you back?
[18:48] <Meophist> I'm here on the other computer
[18:48] <Meophist> The Ubuntu computer just finished booting
[18:48] <nb1> Driv3r912: Yeah, I know, I just have not bothered with it yet. I still boot to 32-bit Ubuntu for most tasks because I already have all the software I use on it
[18:48] <steel_lady> hello! on my old laptop I could call with skype but now I have the sound problem. please help!
[18:48] <IceMax> rmtichell: the last 3 things is says are setting the system clock, loading kernel modules..., and then loading manual drivers
[18:49] <rmitchell> meophist, copy those files to the ubuntu computer, click and install
[18:49] <Driv3r912> nbl: Sounds good. That's the differences between the two versions of Ubuntu however. x64 supports systems with 64-bit processors and memory allocations above 2GB (I think for Ubuntu).
[18:49] <rmitchell> icemax: how long does it hang for, eternity?
[18:50] <nb1> Driv3r912: I read an article with Ubuntu 32 and 64-bit benchmarks, and about the only thing 64-bit did faster was compiling, encoding, etc.... most other tasks/applications ran no faster on it
[18:50] <IceMax> rmtichell: seems like it, longest i let it sit was abotu 5 mins
[18:50] <Meophist> Installed. Next?
[18:51] <Driv3r912> nbl: True. It's the same thing. The kernel will just support the 64-bit processors. It's not going to be any faster or better than the 32-bit. Same thing, different computer equipment support.
[18:51] <rmitchell> meophist, is your .INF file saved on the ubuntu computer?
[18:51] <Meophist> rmitchell: Yes.
[18:51] <TokenBad> does ubuntu support sli video cards?
[18:52] <rmitchell> meophist: sudo ndiswrapper -i /your/driver.inf
[18:52] <Meophist> In Terminal, right?
[18:52] <rmitchell> meophist, maybe use the driver from the disk, in case it needs to pull .sys files too
[18:53] <rmitchell> meophist, yeah, in terminal
[18:53] <sdlwof> sudo won't run, can't resolve hostname....but...need sudo to edit hosts file....
[18:53] <rmitchell> icemax: sounds like a kernal update broke some modules, in the grub menu, can you chose to boot into an older kernal?
[18:54] <maxbaldwin> sdlwof: reboot, and boot into recovery mode and fix it
[18:54] <Meophist> rmitchell: How do I access my cd from terminal?
[18:54] <sdlwof> aw man, the pc is like 3 hrs away!
[18:54] <Dillizar> i have problem with audio on skype on 8.10
[18:54] <IceMax> rmitchell: no, it jsut shows the 1 i had, sicne i removed everything else from hte lsit cept for hte lastest kernal at the time the safe boot mem test and widnwos Xp
[18:54] <TJ> What can I use to view available wireless networks in range ?
[18:54] <atarinox> Has anyone had issues with sound failing on Intrepid after the computer sleeps?
[18:55] <Trooper2008> !it
[18:55] <atarinox> Sometimes I have to reboot to get my sound drivers working
[18:55] <gnutron> neoDite: mount cdrom ; cd /media/cdrom should work.
[18:55] <rmitchell> icemax: i'm not sure what to do to get it to boot, sorry
[18:55] <rmitchell> meophist: how'd that go?
[18:55] <TJ> What can I use to view available wireless networks in range ?
[18:55] <gnutron> Meophist: mount cdrom ; cd /media/cdrom should work.
[18:56] <IceMax> rmitchell: thats ok, know how i can reinstall without wiping everyting?
[18:56] <Meophist> gnutron: Thanks
[18:56] <GiantTalkingCow> This may be a tad offtopic, but can anyone recommend a decent Linux netbook?
[18:56] <rmitchell> gianttalkingcow: macbook
[18:56] <Meophist> "Can't find cdrom in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[18:57] <GiantTalkingCow> A Macbook's not quite a netbook... larger, wrong price range, etc.
[18:57] <rmitchell> ^my bad, thought you said notebook
[18:57] <gnutron> Meophist: hrm, try lspci and see if the device is listed. it may be cdrom0
[18:57] <GiantTalkingCow> No worries. Thanks anyhow.
[18:58] <rmitchell> meophist: it didn't recognize the cd drive?
[18:58] <TJ> my computer will not keep my freakin time
[18:58] <ikonia> last curtis
[18:58] <ikonia> oops
[18:58] <Meophist> Wait, I just tried the first part.
[18:58] <Meophist> When I did both it seems to have worked.
[18:58] <Meophist> (same error appeared but whatever)
[18:58] <rmitchell> meophist: did the cd mount?
[18:59] <mgolisch> mount cdrom is wrong isnt it?
[18:59] <mgolisch> it should either be a mountpoint or devicenode
[18:59] <forcumang> can i ask a question
[18:59] <steel_lady> please how can I know if the problem are sound card drivers or the microphone?
[18:59] <mgolisch> so /dev/cdrom or /media/cdrom or something
[18:59] <Meophist> I think I mounted the cd outside of terminal and it was find.
[18:59] <Meophist> fine*
[18:59] <forcumang> when you guys try to get customer service these days, is it really as horrible as i get it?
[19:00] <gnutron> mgolisch: I think ubuntu has a symlink for the cdrom, but you are correct.
[19:00] <Meophist> but now I can't go into its directories.
[19:00] <rmitchell> meophist: in terminal, the cd is most likely '/media/cdrom' or '/media/cdrom0'
[19:00] <rmitchell> meophist: type 'cd /media/'  without quotes
[19:00] <Meophist> no, I mean I'm in the cd right now. The mount failed(probably because it was already mounted) but I got in with the second command
[19:01] <n8tuser> forcumang-> common yes
[19:01] <Meophist> but I can't go into the cd's directories now :(
[19:01] <rmitchell> meophist: then 'ls'
[19:01] <rohan> how do i clean out all the old kernel images and stale kernel related packages? it is taking up a lot of disk space
[19:01] <forcumang> n8tuser => it's so pathetic, heh.
[19:01] <bastid_raZor> rohan; uninstall them through synaptic, they will be removed.
[19:01] <Meophist> I'm trying to go into the folder "V1.01 driver and utility install(PCI&CARDBUS)" but...
[19:01] <rmitchell> meophist: to clarify, the 'cd' in that command was 'change directory' not compact disc
[19:01] <rohan> bastid_raZor: i can't find the correct one to remove
[19:01] <gnutron> rohan: use synaptic and search for the image, it will remove them safely and update grub.
[19:01] <forcumang> i call for a taxi, and the guy asks where i live then hangs up the phone
[19:02] <forcumang> some arabian guy
[19:02] <Meophist> rmitchell: Yeah, the same as DOS.
[19:02] <forcumang> how the fuck am i suppose to know if someones coming or not
[19:02] <forcumang> and no apt number?
[19:02] <sdlwof> rohan, sudo rm -Rv /usr/
[19:02] <forcumang> didnt even ask for a phone #..
[19:02] <forcumang> nothing
[19:02] <FloodBot3> forcumang: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:02] <tsabi> üdv
[19:02] <rohan> sdlwof: funny, isn't it?
[19:02] <forcumang> yeah okay FloodBot3, as if I am.
[19:02] <sdlwof> hey, i've mixed rm with mv....
[19:02] <hypa7ia> forcumang: call them back?
[19:02] <tsabi> van aki magyar?
[19:02] <hypa7ia> seems like an easy solution :)
[19:02] <Slart> !ot
[19:02] <forcumang> hypa7ia => done, four times
[19:02] <rmitchell> meophist: what was the output of ls?
[19:02] <Slart> !mg
[19:02] <Meophist> There's a syntax error and I can't go into the folder.
[19:03] <gnutron> rohan: do not do the rm -rf stuff.
[19:03] <Slart> !hungary
[19:03] <rohan> gnutron, bastid_raZor : also, when are new packages installed, versus kernel packages being upgraded?
[19:03] <forcumang> this is the yellow cab co. too...
[19:03] <forcumang> so pathetic that they have people working like that these days
[19:03] <rohan> gnutron: yes thanks, it's sdlwof who is the n00b here, by trying to bait people
[19:03] <n8tuser> forcumang-> which city are you at?
[19:03] <forcumang> oakland, ca
[19:03] <rmitchell> meophist: open the file manager, and go to the /media/ folder
[19:03] <sdlwof> naw man, i've mad the mistake myself....
[19:03] <Slart> forcumang: try telling the people in #ubuntu-offtopic.. they are less likey to kick you
[19:03] <n8tuser> forcumang-> the death capital of the west..lol
[19:03] <gnutron> rohan: i dunno, it happens.
[19:03] <forcumang> :P
[19:03] <forcumang> meh
[19:04] <gnutron> rohan: not sure what you mean
[19:04] <forcumang> if someone wants to kick/ban me for saying a few off-topic works
[19:04] <n8tuser> forcumang-> take bart or ac transit
[19:04] <forcumang> they are welcome too. :/
[19:04] <rohan> sdlwof: no, because mv -Rv /usr/ would give a syntax error
[19:04] <bastid_raZor> rohan; when you do an update you should pay attention to what packages are being updated. that is how you know.
[19:04] <Meophist> output of ls is the directory of the cd, autoruns, docs and folders where the drivers are
[19:04] <atarinox> Has anybody had any luck installing Windows for dual boot on a box that already has Ubuntu installed?
[19:04] <Meophist> File manager?
[19:04] <rohan> bastid_raZor: that seems to much to take care of, why can't the package manager do it for itself
[19:04] <Slart> atarinox: yes
[19:04] <hypa7ia> atarinox: it's reasonably easy to do, you'll just need to reinstall grub afterwards
[19:04] <sdlwof> naw, i was doing alot of rm stuff, and when i want to do mv, i typed rm /filename
[19:04] <forcumang> n8tuser => i am now :P
[19:04] <sdlwof> without options
[19:04] <Slart> atarinox: you have to restore the mbr after you're done.. but that's about it
[19:04] <Meophist> Is File manager the Windows Explorer?
[19:05] <rohan> bastid_raZor: i am basically confused with 2.6.24-22 and 2.6.24-22.12 what causes an upgrade in-place and what installs a new package
[19:05] <bastid_raZor> rohan; it is wise to have at least one other kernel to boot in to.
[19:05] <rmitchell> meophist: in windows, yes, in gnome, its called nautilus
[19:05] <rmitchell> meophist: same concept
[19:05] <Trooper2008> hello is there anyone expert here with firestarter preferences ?
[19:05] <rohan> bastid_raZor: but a kernel + related packages take up 200mb of disk space!
[19:05] <Meophist> Ok, I'm in media
[19:05] <Trooper2008> i need someone to help me with firestarter
[19:06] <rmitchell> meophist, what folders are in there?
[19:06] <gnuskool> Trooper2008: say the problem
[19:06] <Slart> Trooper2008: just ask your question.. on one line.. if someone knows they will answer
[19:06] <iEngage> s
[19:06] <Meophist> cdrom cdrom0 disk New Volume
[19:06] <bastid_raZor> rohan; in synaptic, you can determine the difference between the kernels?
[19:06] <Meophist> 4 folders
[19:06] <rmitchell> meophist: open the cd ones and see which one is your driver cd
[19:06] <Meophist> cdrom is it
[19:06] <rohan> bastid_raZor: no, there so so so many linux-image packages that it confuses me
[19:06] <Trooper2008> ok gnuskool thanx
[19:07] <Meophist> (both work actually)
[19:07] <gnutron> rohan: new packages are installed only when you request them or if an update requires them.
[19:07] <sdlwof> muaha, another wi-jacked!
[19:07] <rmitchell> meophist then in terminal, your command is "sudo ndiswrapper -i /media/cdrom/path/to/driver.inf
[19:07] <rmitchell> meophist, without the opening quote
[19:08] <Meophist> the problem is the that path includes a folder called "V1.01 driver and utility install(PCI&CARDBUS)"
[19:08] <bastid_raZor> rohan; linux-image-2.6.24-21 should be the one you're using (if you're still using 8.04) click complete removal of the ones you don't want. it will remove the associated packages.
[19:08] <rohan> bastid_raZor: ok, thanks. yes i am still using 8.04
[19:08] <bigmb> How can I install the C and c++ libraries, been a while since I last had to
[19:08] <rohan> bigmb: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[19:09] <rmitchell> meophist: put backslashes (\) on the word before the space, like: V1.01\ driver\ and\ utility\ install(etc)
[19:09] <gnutron> rohan: you're no beginner :)
[19:09] <Trooper2008> well there are 4 options i don't understar 1 under events skip redunat entry that is enabled by defualt what to do 2 under advanced options if block brodcasts from external and internal networks 3 if block traffic from reserved adresses on pubblic interference gnuskool you know ?
[19:09] <sandy_> can any on tell me how to connect to wifi from terminal with WPA
[19:09] <Trooper2008> this is firestarter preferences i need to understand better gnuskool
[19:09] <n8tuser> sandy_-> try  dhclient wlan0
[19:09] <lavacano201014> You know that Ubuntu logo next to the applications menu? What do I do if I want to use something else?
[19:09] <basso> Ey! you guys know when you open a new window, it opens at the center of the screen?.. can i choose where it will pop up?
[19:10] <rohan> gnutron: hehe :)
[19:10] <bigmb> rohan: does this also install what I need for ruby?
[19:10] <rohan> bigmb: no, sudo aptitude install ruby
[19:10] <Meophist> rmitchell: "syntax error near unexpected token '('"
[19:10] <rohan> bigmb: and irb, if you need it
[19:10] <bigmb> rohan: thanks, you rock :)
[19:10] <Meophist> rmitchell: "syntax error near unexpected token `('"
[19:10] <Trooper2008> are you able to solve my quest gnuskool?
[19:10] <rohan> bigmb: you're welcome
[19:10] <rmitchell> meophist: give me the full path to your driver
[19:10] <Meophist> It was the second one.
[19:11] <bakarat> damn, i can't get the 1080i to work :( i tried a crapload of modelines i found online, at 50 hz it was shaking like crazy, at 53, it was much more stable, and at 59 hz quite unstable again... :|
[19:11] <gnuskool> Trooper2008: nah, mate sorry, but someone in the channel might be able to help
[19:11] <lavacano201014> Meophist-\ There's a ( that shouldn't be there, it seems
[19:11] <bakarat> how can i fix this? :(
[19:11] <Meophist> media/cdrom/V1.01 driver and utility install(PCI&CARDBUs)/Inf/WinXP_2K/netmw125.inf
[19:11] <Trooper2008> who is expert with firestarter here ?
[19:12] <Meophist> The s in PCI&CARDBUS is capital*
[19:12] <sandy_> n8tuser, i need to write a shell program which auto connect to wifi in my Home (security WPA_) and office (security wep: HEX) i need to know how to connect to wifi with different security modes
[19:12] <Trooper2008> gnuskool:  you know if weechat is a gui program?
[19:12] <rmitchell> meophist: heres your command:    sudo ndiswrapper -i /media/cdrom/V1.01\ driver\ and
[19:12] <Meophist> That's without the backslash escapes
[19:12] <rmitchell> wait... returned too soon...
[19:12] <rohan> why not just use tab completion?
[19:12] <bastid_raZor> rohan; the -16 kernel just shows 15.8MB of space taken up for me.
[19:13] <rohan> bastid_raZor: right, but there are corresponding modules packages
[19:13] <sandy_>  i need to write a shell program which auto connect to wifi in my Home (security WPA_) and office (security wep: HEX) i need to know how to connect to wifi with different security modes
[19:13] <rohan> bastid_raZor: e.g. i am doing a upgrade right now, and -- Need to get 52.0MB of archives. After unpacking 196MB will be used.
[19:13] <tim234> hey, is it possible to have sound through OSS in 2 applications @ same time?
[19:14] <rmitchell> meophist: heres your command:    sudo ndiswrapper -i /media/cdrom/V1.01\ driver\ and\ utility\ install(PCI&CARDBUS)/Inf/WinXP_2K/netmw125.inf
[19:14] <bastid_raZor> rohan; right, the fun of upgrading. you're going to 8.10?
[19:14] <gnuskool> Trooper2008: nah, i dont think so, it may have a gui frontend. what u using now?
[19:14] <PriceChild> sandy_: 'different security modes'? Why can't you just use the standard network manager?
[19:14] <rohan> bastid_raZor: nope, i am sticking to 8.04 because of kde3
[19:14] <Meophist> rmitchell: That's exactly what I tried, but I don't think Terminal likes brackets in folder names.
[19:15] <sandy_> PriceChild, i cant do that because many system are connect to it some
[19:15] <n8tuser> sandy_-> you have to do a little more thinking, how you know which AP is accessable,
[19:15] <bastid_raZor> rohan; kde4 is lacking, i still use kde3 apps almost as much as native gnome
[19:15] <rmitchell> meophist: you could copy the entire directory to your hard drive and go from there
[19:16] <rohan> bastid_raZor: yes, it's lacking. because kde is my main DE, i am sticking to 8.04
[19:16] <gnuskool> Trooper2008: actually, looking on their website the gui is still coming, so no, its not a gui prog, xchat might be worthh a look, if a gui is what you want
[19:16] <Meophist> rmitchell: Yeah, I'll try that.
[19:16] <rmitchell> meophist, i have to go, after you do that, and run the ndiswrapper command, run ndiswrapper -l to see if it applied it
[19:17] <Trooper2008> thanx gnuskool  2 question the best free vpn to mask ip for linux is as tor sucks on chat get's blacklisted too much
[19:17] <lavacano201014> You know that Ubuntu logo next to the applications menu? What do I do if I want to use something else?
[19:17] <sandy_> n8tuser, if i am at home it should auto connect to wifi because ssid will be different
[19:17]  * Meophist thinks it worked.
[19:18] <n8tuser> sandy_-> how will you detect such?
[19:18] <lolaulz> HI ^____^;;;
[19:18] <sandy_> n8tuser, iwconfig wlan0 essid "xxxx"  key "xxx"
[19:18] <sandy_> n8tuser, by scannig
[19:18] <Dreamglider> i cleaned and installed ubuntu on a laptop of a friend a couple of days ago, now just a few minutes ago he asked me why the app, places and system dropdown menus on the top bar wont 'drop down', it seems that after he leaves fullscreen when watching movies the menus stop working, he has 8.10 fully uptodate on a dell inspiron 6000.
[19:19] <TheCollect> Hey everybody
[19:19] <gnuskool> Trooper2008: dont know about that , soz
[19:19] <n8tuser> sandy_-> then put that in your script a function to scan and a function to connect dependent on scan results
[19:19] <TheCollect> I have a quick question
[19:19] <Trooper2008> does anyone know any good free vpn service to mask ip for linux as tor dosen't work well on irc as it get's blacklisted too much on servers?
[19:19] <Trooper2008> np gnuskool
[19:19] <Flannel> Trooper2008: What are you trying to accomplish?  Why do you need one?
[19:20] <l337h4l> Does anyone know if conky has an IRC server?  Or is anyone good with using grep to ignore characters pulled from a text file
[19:20] <bastid_raZor> l337h4l; #conky
[19:20] <Trooper2008> i just do
[19:20] <Trooper2008> you able to help Flannel?
[19:20] <TheCollective> Is there a version of ubuntu (or any other linux) that would run faster on an IBM laptop with a Pentium 4 processor and 512 megs of ram?  8.10 is running like Molasses  -_-
[19:20] <yowshi4> how do i stop the icon in my top panel from moving around every bloody reboot
[19:21] <kitche> TheCollective install xubuntu 8.10
[19:21] <Flannel> Trooper2008: If you'd tell us why, we may be able to help you, yes.
[19:21] <MilkFloat> thecollective: Try xubuntu
[19:21] <TheCollective> xubuntu?  Nice  :)
[19:21] <TheCollective> Is that on the ubuntu website too?
[19:21] <gnutron> yowshi4: right click the icon and lock position may work.
[19:21] <TheCollective> meh I'll just google it lol
[19:21] <thiebaude> TheCollective: fluxbox
[19:21] <sandy_> n8tuser, i need to know how to give WPA
[19:21] <sandy_> n8tuser, can you help me
[19:21] <forcumang> TheCollective => google
[19:21] <n8tuser> sandy_-> its on the interfaces file
[19:22] <yowshi4> gnutron: no they were locked by default i unlocked them because they kept moving around when i rebooted and i had to put them back manually
[19:22] <MilkFloat> thecollective: aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[19:22] <Dreamglider> TheCollective: xubuntu.org
[19:22] <Dreamglider> :))
[19:22] <l337h4l> thanks bastid_raZor
[19:22] <Trooper2008> becouse i like to not go on web with my ip Flannel ok?
[19:22] <Trooper2008> expecialy on irc
[19:22] <Trooper2008> any socks proxy or better if free vpn would be loved
[19:22] <bastid_raZor> l337h4l; they tend to take ages to answer, when they do though. they are very informative.
[19:22] <TokenBad> ok..someone help please..installed 8.10..before doing anything else I install the nvidia drivers though the driver program.  reboot and get msg no resume image doing normal boot.  here is my xorg log:  http://pastebin.com/f5791081e
[19:22] <Trooper2008> as tor sucks on irc for it's too much banning of ip's Flannel
[19:23] <Trooper2008> and don't worry im not a lamer :)
[19:23] <Flannel> !cloak | Trooper2008
[19:23] <l337h4l> bastid_raZor,  well Ill idle for a bit but Ill be going out for the holiday
[19:23] <Flannel> Trooper2008: and actually, I know for a fact that you are a trouble maker.  So, don't try and use that for ban evasion, since ban evasion isn't cool.
[19:23] <gnuskool> Dreamglider: typing in gnome-panel in reminal brings it back...
[19:23] <gnutron> yowshi4: you could try add to panel option, add it again, remove the other one and hope it will stick
[19:23] <Miesco> Theres a kernel update and an update on the restricted modules...  I had to install backports-restricted-modules because my computer kept freezing, did they fix this issue in this update?
[19:24] <Trooper2008> Flannel:  how can you know me if it's one of the first times i come here ?
[19:24] <Trooper2008> and i have no bans?
[19:24] <sandy_> n8tuser, i know how to connect to wifi ( iwconfig wlan0 essid "xxxxx" key ) , here i need to know how to give WPA key what are the prefix for the key etc
[19:24] <Trooper2008> maby you got wrong person
[19:24] <mneptok> Trooper2008: that wouldn't happen with a Freenode cloak
[19:24] <Dreamglider> gnuskool: they all stop responding, so i cannt open a terminal windoow
[19:24] <Dreamglider> window
[19:24] <n8tuser> sandy_-> that will not even connect you, iwconfig is not to connect..its to configure
[19:24] <yowshi4> gnutron: i j have like 2 dozen icons up there several of them custom made
[19:25] <emilien> need help new bought keyboard not detected
[19:25] <yowshi4> gnutron: and they didnt stick whne i firtsmade them i would rather have asolution other thren hgoping
[19:25] <Trooper2008> i see mneptok
[19:25] <Trooper2008> btw flannel you got wrong person
[19:25] <Trooper2008> it's not nice to accuse people when you don't know em
[19:25] <gnuskool> Dreamglider: even pressing alt+f2 dosent bring up the run command?
[19:26] <mneptok> Trooper2008: if you don't want to be mistaken for other people, don't use their IPs.
[19:26] <Flannel> Trooper2008: This is offtopic.  Please stop.  Just follow the code of conduct and the IRC guidelines, and you'll be fine.
[19:26] <emilien> need help new usb keyboard not detected
[19:26] <Trooper2008> well i never mneptok ok
[19:26] <Meophist> Is there a device manager for ubuntu?
[19:27] <gnutron> yowshi4: I have no answer for that, ubuntu just needs to tweak itself or just keep trying.
[19:27] <yowshi4> gnutron: tweak itself?
[19:27] <gnutron> yowshi4: i've had the same problem, and eventually it behaves.
[19:27] <Dreamglider> gnuskool: it does not respond
[19:27] <truthslave> looking for a good streaming tv player....i already run vlc and miro
[19:28] <Ubunoob> I just downloaded Ubuntu 8.10, burned it to a CD using Disk Utility, and booted from the CD by holding C. I got the menu to choose to install Ubuntu, Check the CD for defects, run the live CD, etc. but when I choose to run the live CD, after loading for what seems like a few minutes, the screen goes black after the loading bar is complete, and remains that way for well over half an hour. I tried 4 times unsuccessfully to boot up
[19:28] <yowshi4> gnutron: yeah but not when the icons are in the order i want them
[19:28] <gnutron> yowshi4: well, tweak itself with your help...
[19:28] <Dreamglider> gnuskool: the menus do highlight but they dont drop down
[19:28] <_LoneCrow> anyone run awstats?  I've set it up with the PL and the config etc,  but how do you actually view it in a web browser?
[19:28] <getxsick> http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?pid=448779#p448779 -- anyone can help me? :)
[19:29] <lavacano201014> Ubunoob-\ Have you done the Check for Defects option yet?
[19:29] <truthslave> any good tv players?
[19:29] <gnutron> yowshi4: they should stay put, ubuntu isn't perfect i dunno
[19:29] <Ubunoob> Yes i have and it says the CD is OK
[19:29] <XB23> hey guys
[19:29] <XB23> Virtual memory 1.43 GB total, 1.43 GB used
[19:30] <XB23> is that bad?
[19:30] <Meophist> Ubunoob: I've had something similar happen to me. Going into the modes and selecting, I think the second option worked for me.
[19:30] <ikonia> XB23: not at all
[19:30] <Meophist> It had something to do with graphics.
[19:30] <XB23> what problems can it cause ikonia?
[19:30] <Ubunoob> I'm on an intel imac
[19:31] <Meophist> I mean, from the main menu of the boot CD.
[19:31] <meyou_> what's a quick way to 'collapse' a directory? i have a folder that contains tons of folders, and i want to move all the files from subfolders into the parent dir
[19:31] <Meophist> I think it was F4 for something.
[19:31] <gnuskool> Dreamglider: that sounds very strange, maybe someone else here can help
[19:31] <_cb> In windows  I can type ALt  + numeric asc code to get letters line the n with the tilda. Anything along those lines for ubuntu?
[19:32] <Ubunoob> oh, what do i do after trying F4 to access one of the other settings?
[19:32] <TuniX12> where can i find ubuntu bot channel?
[19:32] <forcumang> ubuntu bot?
[19:32] <Meophist> There was something for alternate graphics something. I'm still a noob for ubuntu too so...
[19:32] <ikonia> XB23: none
[19:32] <ikonia> XB23: it's fine
[19:32] <Ubunoob> oh i see haha, well thanks for that help, i shall give it a try
[19:32] <Dreamglider> gnuskool: it is strange indeed, the volume controll works, and the clock/calender allso
[19:32] <Meophist> After selecting it, the CD booted up normally for me.
[19:33] <Ubunoob> to u remember what exactly i should be selecting? =p
[19:33] <TuniX12> forcumang: yes for factoid commands
[19:33] <ikonia> !away > Katie-Offline
[19:33] <Meophist> Does anybody know of a device manager for ubuntu?
[19:33] <TuniX12> !commands
[19:33] <Meophist> Ubunoob: I think it was the second option under "Modes", but I'm not %100 sure.
[19:33] <TuniX12> !bot
[19:34] <Ubunoob> ok, i'll restart and give it a try. wish me luck!
[19:34] <Trooper2008> i get now why i recived the ubuntu comunity rules from you Flannel
[19:34] <maxbaldwin> TuniX12: #ubuntu-bots
[19:34] <Trooper2008> now :)
[19:34]  * DIL say why
[19:34] <Meophist> Anybody?
[19:35] <DIFH-iceroot> !anyone | Meophist
[19:35] <_cb> Ok found it. Pressing Ctrl + shift + u, typing hex code and then releasing. Wish they had easier keys. CTRl SHIFT and U are not close together ;(
[19:35] <meyou_> DIFH-iceroot: doesn't really apply. he already asked his question :p
[19:36] <Meophist> huh?
[19:36] <meyou_> what's a quick way to 'collapse' a directory? i have a folder that contains tons of folders, and i want to move all the files from subfolders into the parent dir
[19:36] <raul_> Hello there, anyone using ubuntu studio?
[19:36] <akorpija> Does openoffice.org have it's own irc server
[19:36] <akorpija> or can anybody help me insert page numbers because i think my openoffice is glitching in some ridiculous way
[19:36] <DIFH-iceroot> meyou_: i am using a small display so i dont scroll als the lines up to search his question
[19:37] <meyou_> ah
[19:37] <meyou_> well you know how to collapse a dir like a was asking above?
[19:37] <Meophist> I'm wondering if there's a device manager-like program in Ubuntu.
[19:37] <meyou_> i'm thinking i could do it with some kinda mv `find blah` command
[19:37] <ikonia> Meophist: devices aren't delt with in the same way as window so there is no need for a device manager
[19:38] <Meophist> So there's no way of checking if my driver is doing anything?
[19:38] <DIL> Meophist: there is you may have to install it
[19:38] <ikonia> Meophist: you don't need to, as I said it works different
[19:38] <maxxik_dude> what are you talking about guys?
[19:39] <Meophist> I installed a driver and want to know if it's doing anything.
[19:39] <conal> newbie question: is there a command-line way to move files & directories to the gnome trash?
[19:39] <conal> convert like 'rm', but safer.
[19:39] <conal> i mean convenient like rm but safer.
[19:39] <aycko> hi
[19:39] <Slart> conal: there's a package called trash-cli.. not sure if it has something to do that
[19:39] <erUSUL> conal: gvfs-rm
[19:39] <conal> (emacs abbrev typo)
[19:39] <ikonia> Meophist: what driver did you instal ?
[19:40] <ikonia> install even
[19:40] <conal> thanks!
[19:40] <loquitus_of_bor1> Hi.  How can I backup an entire Linux server from the command line, so that I could potentially restore that backup onto another system in case the original goes up in smoke? I am talking about everything including the OS, and not just the data... I might want to even be able to stick this backup into a VM that I could boot with virtual box or vmware. Is there a way to do this?
[19:40] <Meophist> one for my wireless card.
[19:40] <ikonia> Meophist: what wireless card ?
[19:40] <aycko> is there some site which analyses different password/serial storage software?
[19:40]  * conal loves ubuntu!
[19:40] <ikonia> loquitus_of_bor1: you can use tar or dd depending on your needs and setup and target system
[19:41] <Meophist> A Cyber Station wireless PCI adapter
[19:41] <ikonia> loquitus_of_bor1: it is however not wise to do it on a running system, better to boot from a livecd and do it while the disk is not in use
[19:41] <meyou_> what's a quick way to 'collapse' a directory? i have a folder that contains tons of folders, and i want to move all the files from subfolders into the parent dir
[19:41] <loquitus_of_bor1> ikonia: can you elaborate?
[19:41] <Meophist> NW-5411
[19:41] <aycko> i need something that lets me lookup passwords from different places and different os
[19:41] <GodfatherofEire> Any ideas why the config editor resets with every restart
[19:41] <loquitus_of_bor1> ikonia: I do not have physical access to this machine.
[19:41] <ikonia> meyou_: depends on what file manager your using
[19:41] <ikonia> loquitus_of_bor1: then I wouldn't advise it to be used as a potential image restore ?
[19:41] <meyou_> ikonia: i can use whichever you suggest :p
[19:41] <meyou_> i was thinking from commandline, but gui is fine
[19:41] <aycko> at home/work on linux/windows. and it should have a moderate safety
[19:42] <ikonia> meyou_: well if you using a command line what are you talking about collapsing a tree ??
[19:42] <meyou_> i want to move the files
[19:42] <meyou_> from subfolders
[19:42] <meyou_> to parent folder
[19:42] <loquitus_of_bor1> ikonia: is the risk here at all to the original machine? as in, is doing this in anyway a risk to the integrity of the source, are is it simply a matter that the copy I am creating might not be very reliable?
[19:42] <meyou_> not collapsing the visual representation
[19:42] <karbo_> Hi, I need help bad :-/ I managed to hibernate my computer instead of rebooting it, it failed, I did a hard restart and now grub is telling me error 17: cannot mount selected partition when I try to start up again. Any chance of saving me?
[19:42] <ikonia> meyou_: just use the "mv" command
[19:42] <bastid_raZor> meyou_; mv file ../
[19:42] <meyou_> and how to make it move them all?
[19:42] <ikonia> loquitus_of_bor1: more a risk that the backup will be worthless
[19:43] <ikonia> meyou_: mv $directory $new-palce
[19:43] <ikonia> place
[19:43] <meyou_> so i'm sitting in a folder, with 1000 subfolders, all of which contain 1 file, and i want to move all files to one folder
[19:43] <oliver_g_> hello
[19:43] <meyou_> mv -R *filemaskhere* .
[19:43] <meyou_> ?
[19:43] <loquitus_of_bor1> ikonia: is this because the drive being copied is being modified at the same time?
[19:43] <aycko> karbo: first of all you need a grub cd
[19:44] <oliver_g_> I've got some questions about booting Ubuntu from USB...
[19:44] <aycko> karbo: just google for it. its always good to have one. its an img you burn on a cd
[19:44] <GodfatherofEire1> Well, the configuration manager seems to reset, but it doesnt actually reset, so the key bindings are still set up
[19:44] <ikonia> loquitus_of_bor1: thats part of the reason yes
[19:44] <oliver_g_> first, is it possible to use an external hard disk as well (instead of USB stick)?
[19:44] <aycko> karbo: then you need to reinstall grub ;)
[19:45] <Meophist> ...
[19:45] <karbo_> aycko: thanks, I will try that
[19:46] <aycko> karbo: you can try this instead http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[19:46] <Meophist> So... uh... how would I figure out if my drivers are working or not?
[19:46] <aycko> the second post should work
[19:47] <sigma`> Hello
[19:47] <sigma`> somebody already use Vsftpd?
[19:47] <phantomcircuit> WHY DOES INDIA SUCK SO MUCH COCK?
[19:48] <The_Blade> !help
[19:48] <GodfatherofEire1> Could I get some help with the config editor?
[19:48]  * DIL dont let me catch you in my 7-11
[19:48] <forcumang> sigma` => i have.
[19:48] <ikonia> DIL: stop with the /me commands
[19:49] <Meophist> ...
[19:49] <sigma`> forcumang, ok good. I've one problem with virtual user
[19:49] <bastid_raZor> !netsplit
[19:49] <forcumang> sigma` => i've experienced vsftpd with local users, haven't done virtual
[19:49] <forcumang> sorry.
[19:50] <DIL> ikonia: priorites sb people phantomcircuit no?
[19:50] <sigma`> mmmh
[19:50] <sigma`> how do you do with local users?
[19:50] <ikonia> DIL: what ?
[19:50] <private_meta> wow... being disturbed because of one /me-command XD
[19:50] <sigma`> you use session password and login?
[19:50] <forcumang> sigma` => yes
[19:50] <karbo_> aycko: my grub menu.lst lists "root (hd1,0)" for my ubuntu disk, which I think is correct as I have winxp installed on the first disk and ubuntu on the second, will the first step using the "grub" command help any, or should I just jump straight to the partitioner guide in that second post?
[19:50] <phantomcircuit> DIL, misuse of amsg
[19:50] <The_Blade> !ufw
[19:50] <forcumang> sigma` => local_enabled = YES
[19:51] <DIL> ikonia, phantomcircuit your language sir
[19:51] <ikonia> DIL: me language ?
[19:51] <forcumang> or it might be local_enable
[19:51] <forcumang> then set local_root = /root/to/ftp
[19:51] <sigma`> yes but when i try to connect to the ftp with 127.0.0.1 on the defaut port with my root login/pass
[19:51] <GodfatherofEire1> Does anybody have any clue as to why the config editor says it resets, when it actually doesnt
[19:51] <private_meta> Is there a program or script that automatically bans IPs for a certain time from connecting to your machine if it had a certain number of failed tries?
[19:51] <sigma`> it doesn't run
[19:51] <DIL> ikonia, never mind your focused i understand
[19:51] <paul68> rdw200169: are you here my friend?
[19:52] <bastid_raZor> DIL; you're
[19:52] <DIL> yes
[19:52] <karbo_> aycko: did you get that, or were you dc'ed as well? =)
[19:52] <sigma`> forcumang, what is the difference between local user and virtual user?
[19:52] <sigma`> if i can forget virtual user, i will do it :)
[19:53] <forcumang> local user is based off your local users
[19:53] <forcumang> and virtual users are virtualized
[19:53] <forcumang> :p
[19:53] <bimberi> !info denyhosts | private_meta
[19:53] <Skyfury> !apparmor
[19:54] <justizin> i'm having trouble pairing my bluetooth mouse with bluez, it timed out while i was looking up the password, and now it won't try to pair again.  how can i make it forget? is there a file i can delete or something i can purge from gconf?
[19:54] <gnuskool> can a separate instance of mysql be installed such as bitnami or wamp etc??
[19:54] <sigma`> ok forcumang ty ;)
[19:54] <gnuskool> alongside a normal install, that is?
[19:54] <private_meta> wow... i hate all those disconnects
[19:54] <forcumang> sigma` => np
[19:54] <private_meta> thanks bimberi
[19:54] <alec868> i need to give a file execute pwermissions. the files on my desktop, i have the command i just dont know how to use it. help?
[19:55] <Meophist> mleeeeyok... :(
[19:55] <Neaai> alec868: chmod u+x filename     This will make the file exectutable for owner.
[19:56] <tim> hi, i addet wine hq repos and updated to a new version, is there a way i can reconfigure that package?
[19:56] <tim> soe that it uses default config files?
[19:56] <huiBuh> alec868, right click on it. And edit the rights ( 3rd tab )
[19:56] <oliver_g_> private_meta: maybe have a look at fail2ban
[19:57] <private_meta> oliver_g_: thanks, I'll do it in case denyhosts fails to do the trick
[19:57] <justizin> tim dpkg --reconfigure, apt-get install --reinstall are both options.
[19:59] <tim> so sudo apt-get install --reinstall package and sudo dpkg --reconfigure package?
[20:00] <ik0> #prologin
[20:00] <bimberi> tim: For wine - removing the .wine directory in your home directory will essentially reset it.  Be sure that you don't want anything in it though - just rename it if you're not sure.
[20:00] <tim> ya ok
[20:01] <tim> but i would then have to copy over the new config files
[20:01] <tim> cuz i got plenty games in the .wine dir
[20:01] <alec868> huiBuh: then how do i run the script?
[20:02] <huiBuh> alec868, after that -- doubleclick ?
[20:02] <vkrolow> hi, I'm trying put the ubuntu to work with dualhead extended with a nvidia, how it's possible do this?
[20:02] <glow> easy..
[20:02] <bimberi> tim: ah ok, then that method won't work.  There's also the 'winecfg' command
[20:03] <alec868> huiBuh: it asks if i want to open in archive manager
[20:03] <tim> ya i used apt-get install --reinstall
[20:03] <tim> but lemme state my main problem: iam listening through music with audacious and wanna play world of warcraft through wine
[20:03] <vkrolow> hi, I'm trying put the ubuntu to work with dualhead extended with a nvidia, how it's possible do this?
[20:03] <tim> in wine, ALSA gives no sound
[20:04] <huiBuh> alec868, that suggests, it's not an executeable thingy. Try open it with the archive manager.
[20:04] <glow> did ya configure it?
[20:04] <glow> @tim
[20:04] <tim> when turning wine to OSS, it reverses the audia adater so i cannt listen to the music playing through audacious
[20:04] <VistaUser> HEY
[20:04] <tim> the only way to get non stuttering sound in wine is to set to OSS
[20:04] <glow> are ya using gnome or KDE?
[20:04] <tim> gnome
[20:04] <glow> whats the errormessage with also?
[20:05] <tim> oh i didnt start from console yet, second
[20:05] <alec868> huiBuh: yeah, i think its supposed to be. the tutorial online said to do it in terminal, but i dont know how
[20:07] <tim> there is no real output regarding alsa
[20:07] <tim> should i mention that i connect my device through a didital cable?
[20:07] <alec868> huiBuh: i have the file open, should the readme tell me how to run it?
[20:07] <LoveGuru> *Happy Thanksgiving to awl*
[20:08] <BSG75> after installing 8.10 my laptop randomly freezes up.  My capslock light blinks and I have to hard boot .. any ideas?
[20:08] <huiBuh> alec868, yes - it SHOULD.
[20:08] <n8tuser> BSG75-> you have the wifi active?
[20:08] <BSG75> yup
[20:09] <alec868> huiBuh: if i cut and paste, can you tell me what you think im supposed to do?
[20:09] <n8tuser> BSG75-> many AP in your hood?
[20:09] <huiBuh> alec868, give me a link to the "programm" instead - that does not flood the irc :)
[20:09] <BSG75> n8tuser: AP as in?
[20:09] <n8tuser> BSG75-> accesspoint
[20:10] <alec868> huiBuh: ok, this is the link to the tutorial.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=870663&highlight=eee+pc+overclocking
[20:10] <BSG75> n8tuser: I just logon to my wireless router ..
[20:11] <n8tuser> BSG75-> any particular AP or whatever is available you connect?
[20:11] <BSG75> n8tuser: it's just using WPA2 personal
[20:12] <MHz128> how do I verify a file using an SHA1SUM?
[20:12] <n8tuser> BSG75-> i dont know then..
[20:12] <BSG75> n8tuser: me either
[20:12] <BSG75> 8.04 worked flawlessly.. the beta of 8.10 had problem with my wireless device
[20:12] <n8tuser> MHz128-> man sha1sum
[20:13] <BSG75> and my laptop has  Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)
[20:13] <BSG75> one of the most common wireless nics
[20:14] <VistaUser> hello
[20:14] <VistaUser> what games run on KDE4?
[20:14] <BSG75> LOL
[20:14] <harlekin> only a test
[20:14] <BSG75> sorry...
[20:14] <huiBuh> alec868, after reading the forum i think you only have trouble with 2. ?
[20:15] <huiBuh> alec868, do you know where the programm "terminal" is ?
[20:15] <alec868> yes
[20:15] <grobda24> MHz128, either provide file and sum on the command line to the program sha1 or it can auto compare file with file containing the sum.
[20:15] <huiBuh> alec868, the phrase "navigate to the downloaded file" is in your case :
[20:15] <huiBuh> enter "cd Desktop" + hit enter
[20:16] <garyb> hello
[20:16] <huiBuh> ( in the "terminal"
[20:16] <huiBuh> )
[20:16] <huiBuh> than copy+paste the code from the "Code" section.
[20:16] <alec868> huiBuh: i have tried this, i get, no such file or directory
[20:16] <alec868> huiBuh: oh i had desktop not Desktop
[20:16] <alec868> there now
[20:17] <DeviN_> Can someone look at this pastebin and tell me whats going on. i never encountered this problem before and im alil lost! http://pastebin.com/m158cc925
[20:17] <bigmb> Is there an IRC I can go for help with sockets programming in C/C++?
[20:17] <huiBuh> alec868,  the files ( and directories ) under linux are case-sensitive :)
[20:18] <grobda24> DeviN_, did you disconnect / move a disk ?
[20:19] <huiBuh> alec868, in Terminal you can enter "cd D" and than hit the tab-key - it will show/complete all possible directories starting with D.
[20:19] <huiBuh> if nothing shows up - check your shiftKey ;)
[20:20] <alec868> huiBuh: ls brings up the files on desktop.
[20:20] <DeviN_> grobda24, well earlier yesterday my windows drive needed formated then after formatting grub messed up so i had to throw in a live cd and rescue it now when i try to boot into either of them i get nothin! Note: I have to sata drives one for linux other for windows
[20:20] <alec868> huiBuh: so i see all the files now.
[20:20] <huiBuh> the desktop is only a directory on your harddisk ...
[20:21] <alec868> huiBuh: i think it would be easier to PM. is that ok>?
[20:21] <bigmb> Ok, nobody in programming channel so I'll try here
[20:21] <bigmb> I get this error cannot convert sockaddr_in* to const sockaddr* for argument 2 in int connect(int, const sockaddr*, socklen_t)
[20:21] <grobda24> DeviN_, The uuid of the drive has probably changed for some reason. I think there's a page on the Ubuntu wiki about resetting it.
[20:21] <Trooper2008> !it
[20:22] <mker> Hi, I just set up sftp on Ubuntu 8.10 following this guide http://passthejager.org/blog/?p=102 but I noticed I can log in as my regular user with the ssh command. How can I make i so only sftp works, not ssh?
[20:22] <Trooper2008> #ubuntu-it
[20:22] <bigmb> When I insert (struct *....), I get a lot of undefined references. Any idea why?
[20:22] <romildo_> Hi.
[20:23] <garyb> can someone help me with duel screen
[20:23] <LoveGuru> howmuch MB in 59.53gb ?
[20:24] <genii> 59,530
[20:24] <forcumang> 59,530 / 1024
[20:24] <forcumang> er
[20:24] <forcumang> theres like
[20:24] <romildo> Instalei o Ubuntu e preciso compilar programas que usam a biblioteca do X11. Que pacote deve ser instalado? (Obs.: estou usando Ubuntu temporariamente; usualmente uso o Gentoo).
[20:24] <forcumang> a diff amt though in mb
[20:24] <garyb> hello
[20:24] <flakeparadigm> LoveGuru 60958.72 MB
[20:24] <forcumang> sec
[20:24] <FloodBot2> forcumang: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:24] <forcumang> yea
[20:24] <erUSUL> !br | romildo
[20:24] <forcumang> its flakeparadigm's.
[20:25] <maxxik_dude> why linux sucks?
[20:25] <genii> LoveGuru: The rule of thumb is divide by a thousand.
[20:25] <flakeparadigm> LoveGuru: 1GB = 1024MB
[20:25] <LoveGuru> flakeparadigm: ty
[20:25] <damashka> life sux.
[20:25] <genii> maxxik_dude: It's a misunderstood love-child.
[20:25] <romildo> I have installed Ubuntu and I need to compile some programs that uses the library X11. Which packages should be installed for that? (Note: I am using Ubuntu temporarily. My main system is Gentoo)
[20:26] <losetheshizzle> hey all, any idea why the ServerLayout section isn't in my xorg.conf file? .. or what the best way to generate it would be so I stop wrecking my GDE?
[20:26] <flakeparadigm> I need to set up and configure an ftp server on my computer. I'm guessing I install ftpd, and then what?
[20:26] <erUSUL> !ftpd
[20:26] <CyberSpike> Hello all - Anyone ever encounter a sound issue where when 2 programs are running with, 1 locks the sound until both programs are restarted? IE If firefox is running VLC has no sound and vice versa?
[20:26] <SoKal-EC> howdy fellow ubuntuers
[20:26] <ciaran9376> sorry to interrupt are the update servers working?
[20:27] <erUSUL> romildo: libx11-dev maybe
[20:27] <SoKal-EC> ciaran9376: yupp
[20:27] <mker> flakeparadigm, can't really help you but I just set up openssh-server to share files with sftp (instead of regular old insecure ftp) and it was a piece of cake. So unless you absolutely need ftp that might be worth checking out.
[20:27] <eth01> evening.
[20:27] <losetheshizzle> what should a normal ServerLayout section look like in xorg.conf?
[20:28] <flakeparadigm> mker thanks
[20:28] <nixbox> how can i remotely loginto my ubuntu machine and use the GUI, i only have SSH access right now, how do i enable the GUI access via ssh?
[20:29] <erUSUL> flakeparadigm: to be precise (pedantic) 1 GB == 1000 MB and 1 GiB == 1024 MiB
[20:29] <fbc> is there something similiar to OpenEMM(openemm.org) for ubuntu?
[20:29] <CyberSpike> nixbox : run a VNC program through an ssh tunnel
[20:29] <mker> flakeparadigm, I used this guide http://passthejager.org/blog/?p=102 and changed the details to fit me.
[20:29] <flakeparadigm> erUSUL: ok, I'll remember that
[20:29] <flakeparadigm> mker: thnaks
[20:29] <flakeparadigm> thanks**
[20:30] <nixbox> CyberSpike, i want to access an already running gui program, is that also possible?
[20:30] <IcyPolecat> hiya, I have a server with 6.06 pre installed and want to do a clean reinstall of 8.04. Trouble is, the 8.04 install doesn't detect the disk controller and I have no idea what make it is. Anyway to find this out from the 6.06 install?
[20:31] <CyberSpike> nixbox: a vnc program will give you access to the desktop as if you were sitting to the machine
[20:31] <tim> after plugin usb logitech headset, do i have to reboot linux to be able to use it?
[20:31] <erUSUL> IcyPolecat: lspci
[20:31] <IcyPolecat> erUSUL: ran that - nothing too helpful in there
[20:32] <erUSUL> IcyPolecat: paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[20:32] <CyberSpike> Help on a sound issue - Anyone ever encounter a sound issue where when 2 programs are running with, 1 locks the sound until both programs are restarted? IE If firefox is running VLC has no sound and vice versa?
[20:32] <d0wn_> connect
[20:32] <IcyPolecat> erUSUL: very sorry - would help if I actually read it properly - it's an Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controllers cc=IDE
[20:33] <Pavlz> hello
[20:33] <Pavlz> how to install madwifi from source ?
[20:33] <erUSUL> IcyPolecat: should work out of the box in ubuntu... make sure the controller is in ahci mode (on the motherboard bios)
[20:33] <erUSUL> !madwifi
[20:33] <IcyPolecat> erUSUL: not sure I have the option - 2 ticks
[20:34] <delta214> Can anyone help getting ubuntu installed on my iBook G4. What should i use to parition it without losing files/ reinstalling osx
[20:34] <erUSUL> !dualboot
[20:34] <erUSUL> delta214: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[20:34] <genii> IcyPolecat: Ubuntu will also see raid1 drives made on ICH controllers and be able to install to them, but not raid5.
[20:35] <delta214> cheers guys. im quite blind apparently
[20:35] <IcyPolecat> genii: thanks but I don't have any RAID config options either - in fact the BIOS is pretty sparse
[20:36] <Ryoushi> Is anyone else having trouble with v4l?
[20:36] <genii> IcyPolecat: Is this a board with the marvell ide controller plus the regular ICH sata controller?
[20:36] <IcyPolecat> genii: I wish I could tell you - it's in a DC about 400 miles away :-)
[20:37] <Ryoushi> genii and IcyPolecat - it sounds like your talking about comics.  not really important, just a funny observation.
[20:37] <erUSUL> IcyPolecat: if there is a marvll ide controller it should appear on lspci output too
[20:37] <zulu34s1> hello, can anyone tell me how to suspend or hibernate after a time i can change?
[20:37] <sam555> how does one partition in ubuntu?
[20:38] <IcyPolecat> erUSUL: genii lspci output > http://paste.ubuntu.com/77494/
[20:38] <sawyer_> hello everyone
[20:38] <Ryoushi> sam555 - Gtkparted is the name of the program.
[20:38] <sam555> Ryoushi: thanks!
[20:38] <Ryoushi> zulu34s1 - it might be available in preferences - power management.
[20:39] <sawyer_> i want to configure a VPN connection, but i don't have that option in the network manager. also, in preferences i don't have a "network configuration" entry, this is an eeepc that had the previous version but i upgraded to ibex
[20:39] <zulu34s1> I don't mean suspend by time that i'm not at the computer
[20:39] <Ryoushi> zulu34s1 - do you mean just suspend the pc at will?
[20:39] <erUSUL> sawyer_: launch nm-connection-editor
[20:39] <zulu34s1> I mean something like shutdown -h -P +tt
[20:40] <Ryoushi> zulu34s1 - you could make a quick launch icon for it.
[20:40] <zulu34s1> k
[20:40] <zulu34s1> how?
[20:40] <IcyPolecat> erUSUL: genii: any ideas?
[20:40] <Ryoushi> zulu34s1 - go into the menu bar, right click, and hit "edit menus"
[20:40] <sawyer_> erUSUL, i don't have it installed.
[20:40] <sawyer_> weird that it didn't install it during the upgrade
[20:40] <justizin> Ryoushi, sam555: I think what you want is gparted
[20:41] <sawyer_> should i just install it?
[20:41] <erUSUL> sawyer_: well not surprise about it not being on preferences...
[20:41] <zulu34s1> and then?
[20:41] <sam555> justizin, Ryoushi I found it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[20:41] <Ryoushi> zulu34s1 - then pick the directory, and hit "new item"
[20:41] <sawyer_> erUSUL, true that :)
[20:41] <erUSUL> sawyer_: make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed
[20:41] <nixbox> can i check what emails have been received by evolution mail client if i cannot access its GUI?
[20:41] <erUSUL> sawyer_: seems like networkmanager is not installed
[20:41] <Ryoushi> sam555 -good, sorry, easy to confuse gparted and gtkparted, what with all this gtk stuff.
[20:41] <nixbox> is there a CLI command to check the emails for evolution?
[20:42] <sawyer_> erUSUL, that's a good point, because this is an eeepc
[20:42] <sam555> Ryoushi: np!
[20:42] <sawyer_> and since the previous version it comes with notebook remix interface
[20:42] <zulu34s1> and then???
[20:42] <erUSUL> IcyPolecat: well my recomendation about checking bios settings for the controller or else use the all-generic-ide boot parameter when booting the install
[20:42] <Ryoushi> zulu34s1 - after you've hit new item, just type the desired name, and then enter the desired command, and from now on every time you hit that in the menu, it'll execute that command.
[20:42] <erUSUL> sawyer_: well then just make sure network manager is installed
[20:42] <Ninina> I have a question, does upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 without reinstalling aka with the package manager leave alot of junk behind?
[20:43] <zulu34s1> i now but what is the desired command???
[20:43] <Ryoushi> zulu34s1 - shutdown -h -P +tt
[20:43] <zulu34s1> no
[20:43] <IcyPolecat> erUSUL: sorry, not being deliberately obtuse. I really don't have anything in the BIOS for ATA controllers apart from enabling / disabling and SMART. Ok I can add that to the option list right?
[20:43] <zulu34s1> i dont want to shutdown after a given time
[20:43] <ionicz> how do i install usb support for ubuntu 8.10 ???
[20:43] <ionicz> it's not recognizing
[20:43] <zulu34s1> i want to SUSPEND or HIBERNATE
[20:43] <Ryoushi> zulu34s1, sorry, it interprets the same way as terminal commands, if that helps.
[20:44] <erUSUL> IcyPolecat: yep. that's the only things i can think of
[20:44] <mker> ionicz, what isn't it recognizing?
[20:44] <IcyPolecat> erUSUL: rebooting now - will give it a go
[20:44] <sawyer_> erUSUL, i'm gonna check the repositories for the package name and make sure it's installed
[20:44] <zulu34s1> i need a command to hibernate after e.g. 100 minutes
[20:44] <feddozz> hullo!! I can't get compiz working. I tried to uninstall it and reinstall. but nothing done. can anyone help\ me?
[20:44] <ionicz> my usb flash drive
[20:44] <ionicz> or jump drive
[20:45] <sawyer_> erUSUL, network-manager is installed
[20:45] <Ryoushi> zulu34s1 I'm not sure I'm 100% understanding what it is you want to do.
[20:45]  * stove_pipe wishes everyone a Happy Thanksgiving
[20:45] <sawyer_> network-manager-openvpn not instaled
[20:45] <mker> ionicz, could it be that Ubuntu doesn't recognize the file system on it?
[20:45] <justizin> zulu34s1: try at
[20:45] <erUSUL> sawyer_: but you do not have nm-applet neither nm-connection-manager ??
[20:45] <zulu34s1> at?
[20:45] <ionicz> maybe
[20:45] <justizin> if the shutdown command can initiate suspend, you can use shutdown -t
[20:45] <Ryoushi> zulu34s1 - listen to justizin.  I'm pretty sure that's more what you want.
[20:45] <quantumkenny> All:  I have a Dell Inspiron 1505, Ubuntu 8.10, Compiz and intel graphics.   How do I move to 1280x1024 resolution , it's not listed as an option
[20:45] <justizin> man at, man shutdown
[20:46] <ionicz> it does recognize in winblows but not in ubuntu for some reason it might be the file system on the drive
[20:46] <sawyer_> erUSUL, i'm installing network-manager-openvps. i'll check in a minute and tell you. thanks for the patience.
[20:46] <justizin> wait, it's not shutdown -t, but anyway, shutdown typically wants a time to shutdown, so e.g. 'halt' is the equivalent of 'shutdown -h now'
[20:46] <brazuca> configure 915resolution
[20:46] <alexi5> winblows ? whats that?
[20:46] <quantumkenny> brazuca: thank you, I will try that
[20:46] <ionicz> how would i format the drive?
[20:46] <erUSUL> sawyer_: no problem
[20:47] <justizin> somehow or other you can tell it "100 minutes from now", either by having a mode in at or shutdown or something, or just by doing a little math compared to the output of $(date)
[20:47] <sawyer_> alexi5, the project name for the latest microsoft OS
[20:47] <alec868> huibuh: didnt work
[20:47] <feddozz> hullo!! I can't get compiz working. I tried to uninstall it and reinstall. but nothing done. can anyone help\ me?
[20:47] <mker> ionicz, here's an artickle in the wiki about usb drives. hope it helps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[20:47] <justizin> feddozz: what kind of gear are you on?  what version of ubuntu?
[20:47] <zulu34s1> how can i do that? (sry for beeing noob)
[20:48] <feddozz> justizin, 8.10. it worked
[20:48] <huiBuh> alec868, it's a hack. ....
[20:48] <brazuca> quantum:type 915resolution
[20:48] <justizin> zulu34s1: read the manpages, try to find some examples of usage..  there is not a suspend-in-n-minutes command, but you could dip into the bash scripting guide and write one for yourself.
[20:48] <feddozz> justizin, then I uninstalled awn and compiz stopped working
[20:48] <justizin> feddozz: when, and under what circumstances did it work?
[20:48] <sawyer_> erUSUL, okay installing the network-manager-openvpn did it. i can now configure vpn. thank you so much for the patience and help.
[20:49] <erUSUL> sawyer_: no problem
[20:49] <alec868>  huiBuh: yeah i know. its probably there somewhere, just no desktop icon
[20:49] <zulu34s1> shutdown can't suspend
[20:49] <justizin> really? i hate to give up on finding the root cause, but have you considered leaving awn installed and not using it? (i find it slow)
[20:49] <Ninina> I'm thinking of upgrading my desktop from 8.04 to 8.10, how is the stablity and will the upgrade process leave me with alot of junk from 8.04 just sitting on my HDD and/or broken programs?
[20:49] <justizin> zulu34s1: find a command that does and run it with 'at'
[20:49] <justizin> shutdown was a long shot but might have been more proper..
[20:49] <feddozz> justizin>>I was using normal effects like cube application switcher and so on it was fine
[20:50] <zulu34s1> how can i find that?
[20:50] <justizin> feddozz: see above
[20:50] <losetheshizzle> anyone know why my gsynaptics program gives me this error: You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics
[20:50] <justizin> zulu: http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+suspend+command
[20:50] <nothing12345> hi
[20:50] <justizin> zulu34s1: what's the larger problem you're trying to solve?
[20:50] <feddozz> justizin>> I'm not following you, what do you want to know?
[20:50] <huiBuh> alec868, have you downloaded the latest script ? ( Size 1,4 KB ) ?
[20:51] <justizin> if you leave awn installed, does it start working again?
[20:51] <brazuca> lose: try gedit xorg.conf
[20:51] <delta214> where can i get bootcamp for osx tiger?
[20:51] <alec868> huiBuh: not unless i did it without knowing
[20:51] <huiBuh> alec868, http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=85784&d=1221836845
[20:51] <brazuca> and change the parameter above
[20:51] <nothing12345> Does anyone use PuppyLinux ?
[20:51] <losetheshizzle> brazuca >> i have.. the problem is it that line is already there
[20:51] <alec868> huiBuh: PM?
[20:51] <mker> nothing12345, in the puppylinux channel perhaps? :)
[20:51] <justizin> this is basic problem solving, you changed a variable, observed a result, i can't speak for what *should* be, but it seems worth considering that you might change that variable.
[20:51] <quantumkenny> brazuca:  the package is not available
[20:52] <nothing12345> Im not using it xD
[20:52] <nothing12345> just wanted to know^^
[20:52] <justizin> if reinstalling awn doesn't fix it, then maybe something was tickled in the process of removing it, it's not an answer, but it might be a step toward one.
[20:52] <brazuca> so apt-get install 915resolution
[20:52] <justizin> btw, does anyone know how to make bluez forget something, say, a mouse, which it failed to pair with once, and now refuses to attempt pairing again..
[20:53] <Coggz> why doesn't xsane open my device? it has the correct usb address 004:003,and the right driver, gt68xx
[20:53] <losetheshizzle> brazuca > everything i read says I need to have a line in the ServerInput section.. but I have no ServerInput section .. when I try to add it, it hoses GDE / xserver
[20:53] <feddozz> justizin>> no. now awn and compiz don't work. Itried to reinstall them many times but nothing. something strange it doesn't pick up the dependencies. if I uninstall let's say compiz-core it just removes that one leaving all the packages related. it seems strange to me but i'm not that expert
[20:53] <jabagawee> does anyone know how to get ibex to play friendly with the intel 3945abg card? i connect and supply the wifi password (wep), but it just pretends to connect and gives me the password dialog again
[20:53] <justizin> feddozz: try removing something juicy that all of the related packages may depend on, like libcompiz0whatever
[20:54] <feddozz> justizin>>i'll do it now
[20:54] <justizin> also, try a dpkg --reconfigure or apt-get install --reinstall of the compiz code
[20:54] <brazuca> lose:im searching the bug i web
[20:54] <IcyPolecat> erUSUL: nope no dice. Am I correct in assuming that if one of the drivers listed by in the installed would work it would have been used?
[20:54] <justizin> consider dpkg --purge
[20:54] <SpriteSODA> hi guys
[20:54] <Coggz> why doesn't xsane open my device? it has the correct usb address 004:003,and the right driver, gt68xx
[20:55] <jabagawee> put in another way, i can see networks, but never connect
[20:55] <feddozz> justizin>> dpkg --purge is it that for me?
[20:55] <losetheshizzle> brazuca >> thanks for the help.. i can't seem to find much that works and I keep havign to boot to shell to fix it
[20:55] <justizin> if / when none of that works, try to think about something which may have changed around the time you removed awn.
[20:55] <SpriteSODA> how do i make my hdd drives appear on my desktop (mounted) when i log in?
[20:55] <SpriteSODA> as it is right now i need to click them first at "Places"
[20:55] <delta214> anyone know where i can get bootcamp for osx tiger?
[20:56] <justizin> feddoz: dpkg --purge somepackagename will remove things like config files and other bits which aren't technically owned by the package, but, say, in a directory created by the package.  i forget the exact criterion for purging data, but it tries to get rid of stuff that isn't removed on uninstall and prevents a reinstall from fixing anything..
[20:56] <jabagawee> SpriteSODA, look into ubuntu tweak, there's an option in it that lets you mess with that
[20:56] <Coggz> why doesn't xsane open my device? it has the correct usb address 004:003,and the right driver, gt68xx
[20:57] <SpriteSODA> isnt there a terminal command for that?
[20:57] <SpriteSODA> :P
[20:57] <feddozz> justizin>>understood
[20:58] <en1gm4> hi all
[20:59] <en1gm4> i'm trying to install the non ose virtualbox , i added the repository as they say on their site, but it lacks of some dependecy.... :
[20:59] <en1gm4> virtualbox-2.0: Depends: libqt4-network (>= 4.4.3) but it is not installable
[20:59] <en1gm4>                   Depends: libqtcore4 (>= 4.4.3) but it is not installable
[20:59] <en1gm4>                   Depends: libqtgui4 (>= 4.4.3) but it is not installable
[20:59] <justizin> jabagawee: quick google for your model number + "linux" and a couple of clicks gets you to: http://intellinuxwireless.org/
[20:59] <tauntaun12> i installed libqtcore4 and libqtgui4 recently
[20:59] <tauntaun12> worked fine
[21:00] <en1gm4> can you send me your repo?
[21:00] <en1gm4> :\
[21:00] <tauntaun12> just from universe
[21:00] <tauntaun12> i looked it up on packages.ubuntu.com, too
[21:00] <kitty_> hola
[21:00] <justizin> jabagawee: looks like you have to build from source, but it shouldn't be too painful.  ten bucks says it's less trouble than my atheros ;)
[21:01] <tauntaun12> http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/libqtcore4
[21:01] <kitty_> i'm looking for help on what ubuntu alternate install cd did to my first partition that i can no longer boot from it, anyone want specifics?
[21:02] <en1gm4> i had still hardy repo -_-"
[21:02] <ircleuser> hello
[21:02] <tauntaun12> ah
[21:02] <tauntaun12> you should upgrade
[21:02] <ircleuser> does anyone know anything about puppy?
[21:03] <ircleuser> the puppy chat is dead
[21:03] <SpriteSODA> guys, anyone knows how to make rhythmbox display hebrew?
[21:03] <en1gm4> i did it :O
[21:03] <en1gm4> don't know why repo are still old
[21:03] <en1gm4> :D
[21:03] <en1gm4> :P
[21:03] <justizin> kitty_: please provide details.
[21:03] <tauntaun12> that's weird
[21:03] <en1gm4> anyway it's working now ;)
[21:03] <en1gm4> thank you
[21:03] <tauntaun12> cool
[21:03] <tauntaun12> np
[21:04] <kitty_> i had to use the alternate install cd for 8.04 lts, i told it not to install grub since i already had it installed, it changed my menu.lst which was cool and all
[21:05] <kitty_> but then when i tried to boot my first partition it was totally defunct
[21:05] <kitty_> i tried to restore the boot sector with the ms-sys package and ntldr files from the ntldr-missing help files
[21:06] <kitty_> it worked when i made a different partition bootable and installed the ntldr files but it won't work with my first partition
[21:06] <unf> hello
[21:07] <unf> im having problems installing amarok 2... ive followed http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2-rc-1 this instructions
[21:07] <Coggz> hey guys, i cant mount a drive(internal) because: "mount point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)
[21:07] <unf> the problem is with kdelibs5 version... is it normal?
[21:07] <justizin> has anyone experienced behaviour where clicking a link in pidgin opens a new firefox tab, hangs all of firefox, except that ^Q brings up a quit confirm dialog, and the link is opened when ff restarts?
[21:07] <quagmire> hi, i have ubuntu 8.04 lts and a dell d520. it boots to busybox, and dmesg cannot find significant errors
[21:07] <osotogari> i have some files in my trash can which i cant seem to delete, i get a permissions error message when I try to delete the files. Can anyone help?
[21:08] <private_meta> yo... i got a small problem, maybe you can help: I don't know what program/service is responsible for the "repeat keys" functionality of the keyboard, but my os has the problem that this functionality, since about a year ago, fails roughly 30-60 minutes after booting
[21:08] <gigel2006> my network connection icon Does't show near the clock I tried restart still doesn't works it worked last night HELP
[21:08] <kitty_> quagmire, you're not telling it the proper location of your kernel's / partition
[21:08] <private_meta> can anyone tell me what might be the problem there? i asked that question already some time ago, noone could tell me
[21:08] <Coggz> hey guys, i cant mount a drive(internal) because: "mount point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)
[21:08] <quagmire> kitty_ , i just try to boot the installer
[21:08] <quagmire> and it fails
[21:08] <kitty_> ???
[21:08] <alex_mayorga> what should I install on a Celeron 300 Mhz 192 MB old PC?
[21:09] <private_meta> alex_mayorga: MSDOS
[21:09] <justizin> alex_mayorga: any gnu/linux system should work relatively well on that machine, you can disable things that suck memory which you don't need, etc..
[21:09] <alex_mayorga> private_meta: I was looking for something more linux based :)
[21:09] <kitty_> which one, grub?
[21:09] <private_meta> alex_mayorga: i know, i know ;)
[21:09] <justizin> a lot can be learned by working with limitations..
[21:09] <Coggz> alex_mayorga: I have the same question at the moment... DSl is ok, but I quite like Puppy Linux although you have to set it up without ram preloading...
[21:10] <quagmire> hi, i want to install ubuntu 8.04 lts and a dell d520. it boots to busybox
[21:10] <kitty_> quagmire: is this a different computer that you can manipulate while being on line as well?
[21:10] <private_meta> alex_mayorga: you can save a lot if you're willing to work without an x-server
[21:10] <quagmire> kitty_ yes
[21:10] <kitty_> quagmire can you pastebin your /boot/menu.lst and the output from mount and fdisk -l ?
[21:10] <alex_mayorga> I'm currently downloading xubuntu alternate and see if that runs, ubuntu live cd refuses to do so
[21:10] <Coggz> hey guys, i cant mount a drive(internal) because: "mount point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)
[21:11] <Jack_Sparrow> quagmire Make sure you burn the disk at slowest speed even if the tests fine Dells have issues with it when they are burned fast
[21:11] <quagmire> kitty_ i want to do a fresh installation on a laptop, i dont have nothing yet
[21:11] <alex_mayorga> private_meta, this is for the janitor kids so we need a GUI
[21:11] <ubuntu-nathan> hello
[21:11] <kitty_> ok so you're booting from the install cd ?
[21:11] <quagmire> Jack_Sparrow , the cd boots in another laptop fine
[21:11] <Coggz> alex_mayorga: DSl is only 50mb
[21:11] <eth01> you mean cable
[21:11] <Jack_Sparrow> quagmire Please read what I said..
[21:11] <private_meta> alex_mayorga: oh... k, but that might be another problem... if you're installing any current ubuntu system, any games those kids might want to play is rather out
[21:11] <quagmire> Jack_Sparrow, burn slowest speed
[21:11] <private_meta> alex_mayorga: that computer can't even run supertux >_>
[21:11] <justizin> alex_mayorga: try the alternate installer, you may have to do a bit of work to get graphics working post-install.
[21:11] <quagmire> sry :)
[21:11] <Coggz> alex_mayorga: puppy is around 92~ i think. Feather Linux is also good
[21:12] <quagmire> i will try that
[21:12] <Jack_Sparrow> quagmire and there are cmd line mods like noapic and noacpi
[21:12] <ubuntu-nathan> i'am only testing my Xchat
[21:12] <ubuntu-nathan> but i will be back
[21:12] <ubuntu-nathan> Ubuntu is my Life
[21:12] <kitty_> justizin, so you have any suggestions with my boot issue?
[21:12] <quagmire> Jack_Sparrow, i tried both those
[21:12] <justizin> alex_mayorga: can you set these up on a fast network to a reasonably spec-ed server?  you can XDM/GDM/KDM session these kids from low-end machines..
[21:13] <justizin> kitty_: sorry, let me scroll up, i must have missed, am on a small screen.
[21:13] <wigren> Hello all. I'm having trouble forwarding X over ssh. I've read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto#Running%20GUI%20Programs but when I try to launch a program it says "X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication"
[21:13] <private_meta> shouldn't it be possible to install the system on a better pc and just transfer the hard drive later?
[21:13] <Coggz> why cant i mount a drive(internal) it says because: "mount point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)
[21:13] <Jack_Sparrow> quagmire burn one at 4x and try again
[21:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Coggz WHat is the command you are giving
[21:13] <quagmire> Jack_Sparrow , yes. i will burn it with again !
[21:13] <alex_mayorga> justizin, we're talking of just and old pc, they don't even have internet or a server
[21:13] <alec868> huibuh
[21:14] <alec868> huiBuh: i think it worked
[21:14] <kitty_> alex_mayorga, how much ram and hd space does this computer have?
[21:14] <alex_mayorga> Coggz, what would you recommend for a "desktop"
[21:14] <alex_mayorga> kitty_: 192 MB ram
[21:14] <Coggz> alex_mayorga: , what of that speed? Maybe puppy
[21:14] <private_meta> Coggz: 300mhz
[21:14] <quantumkenny> FYI: for anyone interested, I was able to get an Intel 945 graphics running at 1280x1024 with compiz enabled :)
[21:15] <Coggz> Jack_Sparrow: just clicking it in gnome...
[21:15] <alex_mayorga> kitty_: 4GB HD, Celeron 300Mhz
[21:15] <WrEtCh> :>
[21:15] <justizin> kitty_: did you try using microsoft's tools to fix it?  keep an NT rescue floppy or whatever, maybe it does USB now, should boot you into windows and then you can go into the start menu or use microsoft's fdisk /sys or whatever it is.. SO happy i don't remember that, but sorry i can't help with more detail, not familiar with ms-sys package.. sounds like something that works with undocumented microsoft code.
[21:15] <rgr> when I install fail2ban, does it "just work" or do I need to cron it?
[21:16] <kitty_> justinzin i can boot winnt, i can boot ubuntu, i just can't boot my 1GB partition or anything that was on it
[21:16] <Coggz> alex_mayorga: yes, puppy of xubuntu. Also, would it not be worth putting a few more megs of ram in so to speak...
[21:16] <kitty_> and its fdisk /mbr
[21:16] <osotogari> i have some files in my trash can which i cant seem to delete, i get a permissions error message when I try to delete the files. Can anyone help?
[21:16] <kitty_> but that doesn't help, i've tried it :P
[21:16] <loquitus_of_bor1> Am I missing something? Why is Mondo backup's exclude path SO short? I have 15 directories I want to exclude! How do I specify that?
[21:16] <Ashfire908> Hi
[21:17] <Brucee> osotogari your files? and get administrators permission
[21:17] <mker> osotogari, gksudo nautilus, then you go to the trash folder and delete it.
[21:17] <kitty_> alex_mayorga, you'll probably want to get an old windows install, cause not much fits on a 4GB hd anymore, you can try stripped down linux distros, but then they also won't be able to do anything, depending on what you actually want out of the computer, i'd an nt kernel
[21:17] <alex_mayorga> Coggz, indeed, but we're talking the 3rd world here
[21:17] <osotogari> @ Brucee: they were my files.
[21:18] <osotogari> @mker: any idea where the trash can is located?
[21:18] <justizin> kitty_: what's the 1GB partition for? some kind of rescue tool? tell me more!
[21:18] <Ashfire908> How do i find the arguments availabe for a kernel module
[21:18] <kitty_> yes its called win95, and install cds
[21:18] <rgr> Does the synaptic version of fail2ban need to be configured or does it work post install with reasonable defaults in Ubuntu?
[21:18] <alex_mayorga> kitty_: the kids only need to do their homework, the father reached to me to give them a functional machine for christmas, as it's now it won't even boot
[21:18] <private_meta> alex_mayorga: actually, I'd kinda recommend that as well, something like win '98
[21:18] <eth01> rgr: check the email bit in the config
[21:18] <kitty_> it was supposed to be a "it'll always be there and i can use a boot disk to get into it" sort of option
[21:18] <eth01> otherwise it's fairly decent by default
[21:18] <Coggz> alex_mayorga: OLPC's SUgarOS may be suitable then...
[21:19] <wigren> Can any one help with an ssh issue?
[21:19] <alex_mayorga> private_meta: I rather keep them away from bug#1 :)
[21:19] <ePax> What vnc server shall i use on my ubuntu? Wich one is the safest?
[21:19] <mker> osotogari, haven't got a clue :) I had a hidden trash folder (starts with a dot . ) in my second harddrive, so that was easy to find, but I don't know about the default one. I'm sure google has the answer though. Good luck
[21:19] <justizin> alex_mayorga: consider upgrading the memory.  reach out to craigslist with your story, and see if anyone is giving stuff away on 'free stuff', even in another city.
[21:19] <eth01> ePax: openvz - however it is not straight foward
[21:19] <alex_mayorga> Coggz: can the OLPC do OO.o?
[21:19] <mker> wigren, not unless you tell us about it
[21:19] <Killer--Tux> ePax i use realvnc
[21:19] <private_meta> alex_mayorga: y'know, you can get computers twice the speed of that one, almost for free
[21:20] <ePax> Thnx
[21:20] <justizin> some people are sitting around with ten gigs of ram that would work in that machine (though, not all at once, of course) and no gear that old..
[21:20] <osotogari> @mker: Ha! I knew there would be some digging to do
[21:20] <osotogari> thanks
[21:20] <eth01> justizin: like me :p
[21:20] <mker> osotogari, there always is :)
[21:20] <alex_mayorga> what memory tipe should I be looking for?
[21:20] <wigren> osotogari: your trash should be in /home/username/.local/share/Trash/files
[21:20] <kitty_> alex_mayorga, i'm sitting on 512Mb sticks of pc133 :P
[21:20] <private_meta> alex_mayorga: depends, look what's in there
[21:20] <justizin> probably PC100, look up the motherboard and see what it supports..
[21:20] <gregor> http://survey.ubuntu.com/index.php?sid=27589&lang=en not working correctly.
[21:20] <martin__> !ubuntu 8.10 firefox start up problem
[21:20] <osotogari> @wigren: thanks :D
[21:20] <justizin> yah pc100 pc133 basically ~10ns SDRAM DIMMS
[21:20] <private_meta> justizin: does craigslist work in mexico?
[21:20] <Coggz> alex_mayorga: ive got some pc 100 and some 133 here
[21:21] <alex_mayorga> If I go with DSL, which one is more suitable for OO.o?
[21:21] <justizin> private_meta: of course~!
[21:21] <private_meta> ah yeah, they're sorta global
[21:21] <martin__> !ubuntu 8.10 firefox statrs up with no gnome
[21:21] <alex_mayorga> any of you in .mx :)?
[21:21] <private_meta> not me
[21:21] <wigren> @mker According to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto#Running%20GUI%20Programs I should have every thing set up right, but when I try to launch an app. like mouse pad, I get  X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[21:21] <justizin> you have mail delivery, yah?
[21:21] <private_meta> heh
[21:21] <private_meta> alex_mayorga: ain't mexico kinda deadly these last months?
[21:22] <Killer--Tux> alex_mayorga am close
[21:22] <osotogari> Im still getting a permissions error when running as root
[21:22] <kitty_> wigren who are you running these programs and who is running gdm ?
[21:22]  * justizin knows too many CS PhDs in Mexico to wonder if people can use craigslist and get computer parts in the mail from people across the internet ;)
[21:22] <alex_mayorga> private_meta: don't believe all that you see in the news, I've managed to survive down here for 26 years, knock on wood :)
[21:22] <martin__> hello, i'm having problems with firefox - when i start it the window opens in something like full-screen mode but the case is it is not full-screen - i think its something with GNOME - ubuntu 8.10
[21:22] <Aquahallic> afternoon folks
[21:22] <mker> alex_mayorga, consider using abiword instead of openoffice since the computer has so little ram
[21:23] <alex_mayorga> Killer--Tux: got ram sticks?
[21:23] <private_meta> alex_mayorga: may i query you?
[21:23] <Ashfire908> Every time i try to run a game i get an error saying it couldn't find glx extenstion or something else glx related.
[21:23] <TheCollective> allright guys, I'm having a series of problems maybe you all can help me out with
[21:23] <wigren> @kitty_ Yes. I'm logged in via ssh as the only user I have set up. (besides root)
[21:23] <Aquahallic> can someone tell me where I can change the listen port of VNC from 5900 default to something different??
[21:23] <forcumang> they won't mail comp parts for you
[21:23] <forcumang> craigslist is a pick up thing..
[21:23] <Killer--Tux> alex_mayorga what kind
[21:23] <forcumang> unless you pay them money
[21:23] <justizin> def, and as long as you can get it basically working, tell pop janitor that his kids can benefit greatly from learning to work on their own computers..
[21:23] <Killer--Tux> and what part of mx are you in
[21:23] <Coggz> alex_mayorga: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Category:Activities maybe this will help you decide about SugarOS
[21:23] <kitty_> well if you're using ssh, you might need to actually log someone into the terminal to get it to work :P
[21:23] <TheCollective> first off, I just got done installing xubuntu 8.10 for my IBM laptop (pentium 4, 512mb ram, radion 200 onboard vid card, onboard sound)
[21:24] <Coggz> oh yea, anyone know how to change somethings mountpoint in terminal...
[21:24] <alex_mayorga> private_meta: on what?
[21:24] <justizin> i like shiny new things as much as the next guy, but i'm in the IT trade because i was fixing my neighbors' computers by the time i was 13 or something..
[21:24] <Coggz> justi
[21:24] <Coggz> oops
[21:24] <eth01> nobody cares - wrong channe
[21:24] <eth01> channel *
[21:24] <private_meta> alex_mayorga: just 'bout burying news preoccupations
[21:24] <eth01> people just want answers not your life
[21:24] <wigren> @kitty_ Do you mean I'll have to physically log in and then connect remotely?
[21:25] <Chaotic_Descent> ... uhm... I'm having problems. for some reason Firefox isn't listing all the files in my folder when I want to upload them online... how do I figure out what the problem is?
[21:25] <jabagawee> justizin, iwlwifi didnt work for me either
[21:25] <alex_mayorga> private_meta: shoot ahead :D
[21:25] <Coggz> justizin: im 15 and i fix peoples computers all the time, i enjoy doing it...
[21:25] <eth01> !topic
[21:25] <TheCollective> I can't get anything to work...onboard sound when I try to play an mp3, embedded flash in the firefox browser (for youtube, etc), and I can't find vlc player in the synaptic package manager (in fact, no packages are showing up, no matter how many times I refresh).
[21:25] <TheCollective> Anybody got any ideas?
[21:25] <justizin> and PLEASE alex_mayorga if they can't afford RAM, don't teach them to use a proprietary platform they'll have to steal software for.  people who spend their entire life stealing software also are the most willing to impose proprietary tech on their employees.
[21:26] <Killer--Tux> The Collective ok need help installing vlc
[21:26] <dreamy> anyone here to answer a question of mine ?
[21:26] <TheCollective> yes please  :)
[21:26] <dreamy> the lines cirlce too fast :S
[21:26] <dreamy> collective?»
[21:26] <mker> TheCollective, a tip, try to keep your entire question in one message, it makes it easier for us to follow and increases your chances of getting an answer.
[21:26] <TheCollective> sorry
[21:26] <Killer--Tux> terminal > sudo apt-get install vlc
[21:27] <forcumang> Killer--Tux =>
[21:27] <forcumang> have you not read what he said?
[21:27] <Chaotic_Descent> huh... I copy the image file and paste it into another folder and Firefox still can't see it. What is with this file?!
[21:27] <justizin> dreamy: sorry, i didn't catch your Q, even in a good bit of scrollback..
[21:27] <forcumang> he can not get any packages
[21:27] <wigren> *stepping out for a smoke*
[21:27] <forcumang> his sound also does not work
[21:27] <alex_mayorga> Killer--Tux: it's for a celeron 300/66 MHz, if you happen to know I rather not crack the CPU to know what type it needs :)
[21:27] <forcumang> installing vlc would be useless without sound
[21:27] <forcumang> unless you have silent movies.
[21:28] <Killer--Tux> alex what part of mexico are you
[21:28] <justizin> alex_mayorga: we should probably all take this to #ubuntu-offtopic, where i'll be happy to join you.
[21:28] <Killer--Tux> forcumang yes
[21:28] <dreamy> in xorg.conf after erasing the 2 lines related to the video driver  (wich driver started woring by standard) ?
[21:28] <justizin> and if the computer is that old, it should probably get used to having its' cover off. ;)
[21:28] <dreamy> ne1 pls ? :)
[21:29]  * alex_mayorga goes #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:29] <forcumang> Killer--Tux => yes what?
[21:29] <Coggz> oh yea, anyone know how to change somethings mountpoint in terminal...
[21:29] <Killer--Tux> now i understand
[21:29] <wedgeoflemon> if i defrag my hardrive in windows will it mess with ubuntu
[21:29] <forcumang> wedgeoflemon => not unless you defrag ubuntus partition
[21:30] <rmitchell> wedgeoflemon: you should be fine
[21:30] <cebrail> there wouldn't be problems
[21:30] <justizin> dreamy: type a little slower, try to keep your entire problem to one line, and be patient...
[21:30] <justizin> if you had spent as much time phrasing your question as i've spent trying to find it, we might have a conversation going by now ;)
[21:30] <Chaotic_Descent> Also... for some reason my bootup is slower now... I'm worried maybe something got in when I installed a printer driver on my Windows partition. is that possible? It beeps like normal, but it's blank for like 10 seconds before it shows me the GRUB menu.
[21:30] <dreamy> okey justinzin..
[21:32] <martin__> ubuntu 8.10 - when i start firefox the window pops up without the top line from GNOME environment (the line with close/maximize/hide buttons) but the program is not in the full-screen mode, any ideas how to correct it?
[21:32] <dreamy> ill solve this question later ..but thanks helping
[21:32] <wigren> *back from killing my self slowly*
[21:32] <mker> martin__, only firefox?
[21:32] <Coggz> anyone know how to change somethings mountpoint in terminal...
[21:32] <martin__> this happens only in firefox - i tried re-install
[21:32] <s0l1dsnak3123> Coggz: do you mean in Fstab?
[21:33] <Chaotic_Descent> Why can't I upload this JPG through FireFox? Firefox doesn't show the file existing.
[21:33] <Coggz> s0l1dsnak3123: well however i cn
[21:33] <mker> martin__, I've gotten that sometimes and then I go to appearance -> visual effects and choose nothing and then normal so it switches to metacity and then back to compiz as the window manager. that works for me.
[21:33] <Sierradump> Earlier it was suggested to me to make my /home/ folder live on a separate partition so that if I have to reinstall OS I don't lose my files... How exactly should I do that?  When installing Ubuntu I suppose I should not choose "guided - use entire disk" ???
[21:33] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[21:33] <s0l1dsnak3123> does it automatically load, Coggz, or does it load when you boot up, or just when you mount it?
[21:33] <Chaotic_Descent> I think these might be files I copied over from a Windows partition. but I can't find any settings wrong with them... they did have the ownership of my group set to read only, but the user to read & write. I changed that to the same as my other files, but it didn't help.
[21:34] <jabagawee> anyone have the 3945abg intel wifi card?
[21:34] <mker> Sierradump, You choose manual and make a partition called / (mine used to be 6-8 gb I think) and a partition for /home with the rest of the harddrive space.
[21:34] <Coggz> s0l1dsnak3123: just when i mount, but i think i tried to make it automount and that messed up mounting it through gnome
[21:35] <s0l1dsnak3123> hmm
[21:35] <Sierradump> Mker ---> do programs get installed to /home or "/"  just want to make sure I leave enough room to install lots of programs!!!
[21:35] <mker> jabagawee, just ask what it is you're wondering, not if anyone has the same hardware or uses a certain program.
[21:35] <martin__> mker, seems to work for me too, thanks very much:)
[21:35] <Sierradump> but also leaving ample room for my .mp3s and videos in teh /home folder
[21:35] <mker> martin__, great!
[21:35] <s0l1dsnak3123> Coggz, please type into teminal "cat /etc/fstab" and paste it into pastebin.com
[21:36] <jabagawee> true, but i'm just asking _anyone_ who has it on how they got it to work
[21:36] <mker> Sierradump, they'll go to / so give it a bit more space then. I give it so little because I don't install very much.
[21:36] <jabagawee> my 3945abg does _not_ work
[21:36] <Coggz> s0l1dsnak3123: http://pastebin.com/d5e0b5959
[21:37] <Sierradump> my HD is 100GB.  I would like about 50GB for my files... So do I make /home 50GB and "/" also 50GB?
[21:37] <s0l1dsnak3123> Coggz, thanks :)
[21:37] <mker> Sierradump, Doing what I suggested will give you one partition for everything under /home and one partition for *everything* else. 50gb for installed programs sounds like very much to me though.
[21:37] <s0l1dsnak3123> Coggz, what is the name of the device you are trying to mount (the /dev/* name)
[21:37] <Sierradump> okay so maybe I should keep 70-80GB for my /home?  Thanks for the help!
[21:38] <mker> Sierradump, Applications -> Accessories -> Disk Usage Analyzer, that might give you an idea of how much is used.
[21:38] <Sierradump> 1 more question:  I have a nVidia chipset on my laptop (which I am installing ubuntu 8.10) and it utilizes the 6150 GeForce GO integrated graphics.
[21:38] <mker> Sierradump, Do "scan filesystem" and it will show you some nice info.
[21:39] <Sierradump> I know I will need the proprietary nVidia graphics driver (version 190?)
[21:39] <Chaotic_Descent> How would I search for this problem on the internet? that Firefox isn't showing files that are shown through the regular file browser.
[21:39] <Sierradump> BUT what about the onboard SATA controller etc...
[21:39] <VistaUser> sup
[21:39] <Sierradump> Its an nVidia Sata controller too?
[21:39] <Coggz> s0l1dsnak3123: /dev/sda8
[21:39] <Sierradump> And the nic is nVidia as well.
[21:39] <rmitchell> sierradump, how'd your install go?
[21:39] <dr-fridric> i want program to Chang my mac address ?
[21:39] <s0l1dsnak3123> Coggz, do you know what filesystem you are using?
[21:39] <mker> Sierradump, I'd do a google search for the model of your laptop and the word ubuntu and see what comes up. Then you see what problems people have had.
[21:39] <Sierradump> Rmitchell - I am a little stuck at the moment!
[21:39] <Sierradump> haha
[21:40] <Sierradump> haha
[21:40] <Coggz> s0l1dsnak3123: it is a shared between win/linux so it is setup as ntfs
[21:40] <cebrail> din DANSKER"
[21:40] <cebrail> !!
[21:40] <cebrail> lol
[21:40] <rmitchell> sierradump, whats the problem?
[21:40] <cebrail> hehe
[21:40] <FloodBot2> cebrail: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:40] <Sierradump> I did a search - I have the HP DV6208nr - there is a GREAT guide by "mitch" but I just wonder if there is a better way to get things working?
[21:41] <GodfatherofEire> Anybody else having suspend and hibernate acting a little weird in intrepid?
[21:41] <Coggz> GodfatherofEire: wierd liek what, like not resuming wired connections properly?
[21:41] <Sierradump> rmitchell -> I have an nVidia chipset and know I will need to manually download the proprietary nVidia graphics drivers (i think current version is 190) but what about the chipset related things?  My Sata controller, and NIC are also nVidia?  Does the proprietary nvidia driver pack come with other drivers ; not just video related drivers?
[21:42] <GodfatherofEire> Coggz, no that works fine, but it switches to an almost-terminal like state before hibernating and prior to restarting the gdm, after its loaded the bootsplash for resuming
[21:42] <GodfatherofEire> Like, the bootsplash stops, and then you see the little flashing underscore in the top left portion of the screen
[21:43] <GodfatherofEire> *freezes
[21:43] <Coggz> GodfatherofEire: ah, no idea then :)
[21:43] <rmitchell> sierradump, are they currently not working, or have you tried yet?
[21:43] <GodfatherofEire> Oh well, fine with me cause it works, just not as streamlined as Id like
[21:43] <Sierradump> still at the partition screen, debating on how much storage I will need for /home and "/" partitions!
[21:44] <rmitchell> how big is your disk?
[21:44] <Sierradump> So I haven't actually tried it yet -- just trying to plan everything out!
[21:44] <Chaotic_Descent> What would I search for? I'm trying "missing files" but not seeing your files in one application is hard to accurately describe with search keywords. I hate searching the internet. =(
[21:44] <Sierradump> 100GB HD
[21:44] <ArdRigh> Hi all
[21:44] <GodfatherofEire> And does anybody know how to mod the sound output of ALSA */Without/* using jackd?
[21:44] <ArdRigh> Is anyone here running Ubuntu on an ATI HD4870?
[21:44] <Sierradump> Just taking earlier advice to create a dedicated /home partition so I can reinstall OS if i have to and not lose my files!
[21:45] <rmitchell> sierradump, i'd give "/" about 10-15 GB, it doesn't need to be big, just system files in there. Then use the rest for /home/, thats where all your big files, movies, music, etc will go
[21:45] <Chaotic_Descent> Is there some kind of like... filename that makes files invisible to Firefox? Like maybe if it ends in _3.JPG ?
[21:45] <Sierradump> (and as for driver related questions - just want to get all the info I need out of vista hardware/device manager before I wipe the partition in case I need to get any model#'s out of there for drivers later...)
[21:46] <Coggz> s0l1dsnak3123: dont worry, i managed to do it...
[21:46] <Coggz> s0l1dsnak3123: thanks for the assistance though
[21:46] <mker> Chaotic_Descent, files that start with . are invisible, but I don't know if they are in Firefox.
[21:46] <GodfatherofEire> Coggz, you think it could be cause of the proprietary drivers?
[21:46] <MadsRH> Hi. Who can help me with OpenPGP key???
[21:46] <Sierradump> rmitchell:  what about programs, I want to play with LOTS of programs!  I want audio players, movie players, skype etc... I also want to try out virtualization - can all of this be installed on the /home partition?
[21:46] <Chaotic_Descent> mker: nope. it's not that. what is WRONG with these files from Windows that they're invisible to Firefox?!
[21:46] <mker> MadsRH, No one unless you tell us what you need help with :)
[21:47] <Coggz> GodfatherofEire: could be, i have proprietry nvidia
[21:47] <MadsRH> mker -> ;-) Okay
[21:47] <mker> Chaotic_Descent, can you see other files in the same folder or what?
[21:47] <ArdRigh> Chaotic_Descent, the file invisibility thin in Windows is based on Windows 'system file' preferences. Have you gone into folder options to enable 'view hidden files' etc?
[21:47] <rmitchell> sierradump, the command "lspci" in a terminal should list quite a lot of data. Programs are generally small, i have skype, amarok, vlc, totem, etc etc and my / is only using 8.3 GB of the 14 GB I gave it. Virtualization stuff can be installed in /home/ if i remember correctly
[21:48] <Chaotic_Descent> mker: yes. Firefox can see other files. and the Ubuntu file browser can see both what Firefox sees as well as other files it can't see. I can even LOAD the image files from Ubuntu.
[21:48] <osotogari> Whats the fastest way to securly delete or overwrite the data on one of my hard disks?
[21:48] <VastHappyDude> hey
[21:48] <VastHappyDude> how do i get gamecontrollers to work in WINE?
[21:48] <Coggz> osotogari: shred
[21:48] <Sierradump> Cool!  so should I just proceed and not gather anymore data from the device manager in Vista?  I took a few screenshots of Display, Lan, WLAN, Sound, and Sata sections...
[21:49] <osotogari> @ Coggz: is that in the repos?
[21:49] <Chaotic_Descent> ArdRigh: but I'm in Ubuntu right now. Are you telling me when I copied the files onto my Ubuntu partition that they have Windows properties that I can't change from Ubuntu?
[21:49] <MadsRH> how do i send my openpgp key? The "gpg --send-key key-id" returns a "no keyserver known"!
[21:49] <Coggz> osotogari: shred -f -n 20
[21:49] <Coggz> osotogari: it is standard
[21:49] <mker> Chaotic_Descent, What is it that you're trying to do? when can't you see the file?
[21:49] <ArdRigh> Chaotic_Descent, oh no sorry.
[21:49] <ArdRigh> What file name do they appear in the file browser?
[21:49] <rmitchell> osotogari: if you want the drive to be blank... dan's boot and nuke, dban.org. Its a livecd that overwrites every bit on the drive
[21:49] <Chaotic_Descent> mker: I can't see the file when I try to upload it onto a website using Firefox.
[21:50] <mker> MadsRH, Why don't you use Seahorse (a.k.a. "Passwords and encryption keys" in  Applications -> Accessories)?
[21:50] <ArdRigh> Chaotic_Descent, have you tried renaming the files?
[21:50] <mker> Chaotic_Descent, is there an option in the bottom left corner of that file window? Like it only shows image files or something?
[21:50] <Chaotic_Descent> ArdRigh: yeah. tried a few different things. I noticed it's not showing any files that start with numbers.
[21:50] <VastHappyDude> hello?
[21:50] <osotogari> @ rmitchell: that might be an option as well, im selling on my external hard disk
[21:50] <mker> Chaotic_Descent, Bottom right I mean
[21:51] <Chaotic_Descent> mker: it's only got one option.
[21:51] <MadsRH> mker -> I just tried to follow the Launchpad instructions
[21:51] <rmitchell> sierradump, it doesn't hurt to have the extra info, just in case, but it sounds like you have most of it.
[21:51] <ArdRigh> VastHappyDude, I would recommend asking in a WINE channel... or perhaps looking on Google. Gamecontrollers are rather specific
[21:51] <Coggz> osotogari: ubcdwin is good, but you need windows iso
[21:51] <mker> MadsRH, Try the program I mentioned. Just right click your key there and you can publish it.
[21:52] <VastHappyDude> is there any way to get a HID gamecontroller working?
[21:52] <VastHappyDude> even in regular linux?
[21:52] <Sierradump> rmitchell:  Alright im going for it - I have a "hardware switch" to turn WiFi on/off - do I want this "on" during the install?
[21:52] <MadsRH> mker -> checking it out right now, thanks
[21:52] <Chaotic_Descent> mker: ... ah. ok. somehow it's Photobucket that's filtering the files out. I have no idea how it's managing to decide that these aren't image files. I just tired uploading an image onto my forum and it DOES list the files.
[21:53] <mker> Chaotic_Descent, could you show me the full name of the image file?
[21:53] <rmitchell> sierradump, not sure if it matters, but i'd leave it on just because.
[21:53] <Sierradump> rmitchell: 10-4 - starting install now :)  thanks for helping out!
[21:54] <rmitchell> sierradump, no problem, hope everything goes smoothly
[21:54] <mker> Sierradump, Good luck!
[21:54] <Chaotic_Descent> mker: hmmm... wait a sec. -_-; ok. I figured it out. Apparently it was filtering out images with upper-case file extentions. .jpg was listed, but not .JPG
[21:55] <Chaotic_Descent> that's... seriously... pathetic.
[21:55] <mker> Chaotic_Descent, hehe, good thing you solved it though :)
[21:55] <Chaotic_Descent> I can't believe how difficult that was to figure out.
[21:55] <rmitchell> sierradump, with your nvidia drivers, i don't remember if you have to tell it to install them or if it prompts you to, but system - administration - hardware drivers should show them
[21:55] <Chaotic_Descent> stupid computers.
[21:55] <VastHappyDude> what is the WINE channel?
[21:56] <kane77> hi, is there any way I can correct gamma on ubuntu? I suspect wine set gamma too hig
[21:56] <Killer--Tux> #WINE
[21:56] <mker> VastHappyDude, #wine I guess but go to their website or search with google to find out for sure.
[21:56] <kane77> hi, is there any way I can correct gamma on ubuntu? I suspect wine set gamma too high for my computer
[21:56] <Sierradump> mker: thanks
[21:57] <mefistofeles> hey, why is that I have to press and hold ctrl key when booting ubuntu? (I know its related to acpi, because acpi=off 'solves' that, but i need acpi), any ideas??
[21:57] <Sierradump> rmitchell:  will check once install is finished - I seem to remember a little popup that tells you to install the "proprietary drivers" will double check if it doesn't pop up!
[21:57] <rmitchell> @ vasthappydude: #winehq accoring to their website
[21:57] <VastHappyDude> thanks
[21:57] <Guest34521> is there a nice, colorful client for IRC for ubunut? I hate command line irssi
[21:58] <hypa7ia> Guest34521: xchat?
[21:58] <kane77> Guest34521, try xchat
[21:58] <VastHappyDude> guest34521: try pidgin
[21:58] <rmitchell> guest34521: pidgin will work
[21:58] <Guest34521> rmitchell: with irc ?
[21:58] <superstarz> ciao
[21:58] <rmitchell> yep
[21:58] <Guest34521> kane77: hypa7ia: is xchat GUI based?
[21:58] <mefistofeles> sorry, did you read my question? you never know heh
[21:58] <philhanson> Yes
[21:58] <kane77> Guest2005, yes
[21:58] <superstarz> !list
[21:59] <philhanson> Xchat is nice
[21:59] <habit> Hello all. Advice me. my system every second returns this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/77527/
[21:59] <Chaotic_Descent> xchat is passable, I guess. :P I can't figure out how to open multiple servers on the same copy though.
[21:59] <Chaotic_Descent> and I wouldn't use a messenger app for IRC...
[21:59] <Juak> hi all
[21:59] <mker> Chaotic_Descent, Network list and just connect to one more server. piece of cake :)
[21:59] <justizin> anyone familiar with bluez? i've been trying to get it to forget a device it failed to pair with, so that i can try again, it wont ask me for the passcode after i let it timeout once while reading documentation..
[22:00] <mefistofeles> ok Ill ask again just in case...
[22:00] <mefistofeles> hey, why is that I have to press and hold ctrl key when booting ubuntu? (I know its related to acpi, because acpi=off 'solves' that, but i need acpi), any ideas??
[22:00] <rmitchell> for irc, i use naim, it is command line, but it does support colors
[22:00] <justizin> mefistofeles: what happens if you don't press and hold ctrl key?
[22:00] <mefistofeles> justizin, it never boots, the loading bar does not advance
[22:01] <Chaotic_Descent> mker: what? what distinguishes disconnecting from the current network from connecting to a second one?
[22:01] <private_meta> let's try again... yo... i got a small problem, maybe you can help: I don't know what program/service is responsible for the "repeat keys" functionality of the keyboard, but my os has the problem that this functionality, since about a year ago, fails roughly 30-60 minutes after booting.
[22:01] <Guest34521> kane77: hypa7ia: Chaotic_Descent: thanks I'll try xchat
[22:01] <mker> Chaotic_Descent, what distinguishes? That you don't disconnect from the first when connecting to a second one I guess? :)
[22:01] <Juak> i have a slight problem with gdm resolution (forums didn't help): gdm screen resolution is different than gnome's...i'm looking at my xorg.conf but it has a series of strange setting on screen resolution, mostly related with the nvidia driver, anyone can help me?
[22:02] <Chaotic_Descent> mker: I don't actually have a network list... I mean there's one under preferences, but there's no "connect" button in there.
[22:02] <mker> Chaotic_Descent, CTRL+S doesn't give you network list? Under the XChat menu?
[22:03] <Chaotic_Descent> mker: ... huh... o... k... nevermind. it works. :S
[22:03] <eliasib> hey i want to know, whats the difference between, 1.1.9 i386 | 1.1.9 amd64 | 1.1.9 lpia wine?
[22:03] <mker> Chaotic_Descent, Hehe
[22:03] <Chaotic_Descent> mker: I sure wish I had known that earlier.
[22:03] <ayy> Hey I just started using my LCD tv as default display (and only) using DVI on my GeForce 6600GT, how ever the screen wont fit the TV-screen, I've tried different resolutions bot none seem to work, I tried changing paning in nvidia-settings, nothing happened. I'm on ubuntu 8.04.1 here and wonder if this can b fixed some how?
[22:03] <Ursinha> eliasib, the architecture
[22:03] <eliasib> whats best
[22:03] <Ursinha> eliasib, it depends on the machine you'll install it
[22:03] <mker> eliasib, the one that works on your system :) I'm guessing you're using 32bit?
[22:04] <eliasib> on a dell
[22:04] <Ursinha> eliasib, is it 32bit?
[22:04] <eliasib> yes
[22:04] <mker> eliasib, Go with i386
[22:04] <Ursinha> eliasib, so you should install i386
[22:04] <rmitchell> ayy, i've found the ubunut 8.10 display settings to be far better, so if theres not a good reason to stay at 8.04, i'd upgrade
[22:04] <Ursinha> as mker said
[22:04] <a1len> Is there anyway to get around a crc error when extracting a .rar?
[22:04] <Ursinha> :)
[22:04] <eliasib> how can i be shure its a 32 bit
[22:04] <Juak> anyome can help me with gdm resolution != gnome resolution?
[22:04] <mefistofeles> ok thanks anyway, see you later, take care
[22:04] <ayy> rmitchell: my only consern is breaking the system :) but I have tough of it :)
[22:05] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[22:05] <Myrtti> eliasib: type uname -m in a terminal an check
[22:05] <Tetracomm> Is there any way to install a DMG package in Ubuntu? Or convert it to a .deb?
[22:05] <mker> Tetracomm, doubt it
[22:05] <Tetracomm> :'(
[22:05] <mker> Tetracomm, isn't that for mac?
[22:05] <VastHappyDude> ok
[22:06] <VastHappyDude> i cannot get my gamepad recognized in linuz at all
[22:06] <VastHappyDude> how do i get ubuntu to recognize my usb gamepad?
[22:06] <Tetracomm> mker: Yes
[22:06] <Tetracomm> .
[22:06] <mker> VastHappyDude, Google the model of your gamepad and "linux" or something and see what you find.-
[22:06] <cs_student> When I try to run fiefox I get the error Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.0.1 and 1.9.0.*.
[22:06] <VastHappyDude> i tried
[22:07] <VastHappyDude> its just a generic usb game controller
[22:07] <VastHappyDude> when it installs in windows, it is 3 usb HID devices
[22:08] <cs_student> What should I do?
[22:08] <mker> cs_student, did you google the error message and see if anyone else has had that problem?
[22:09] <cs_student> Whats a browser I could use to google it?
[22:09] <VastHappyDude> cs_student: seamonkey will work
[22:09] <VastHappyDude> its in the repository
[22:09] <cs_student> I'm guessing GRE stands for Gecko Rendering Environment
[22:09] <mker> cs_student, Doh! Didn't think about that, haha. But try installing epiphany-webkit or something
[22:10] <mpee> anyone know how to unbreak systemtap in intrepid? None of the debug debs at http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux/ match my kernel version (2.6.27-7)
[22:11] <starwobble> Hey, I was wondering if anyone could help me with my iwconfig
[22:12] <mpee> starwobble: use network-manager :)
[22:12] <starwobble> Thanks mpee
[22:12] <starwobble> I'll give it a shot.
[22:13] <starwobble> I've been trying to get my laptop wireless to work with ndiswrapper.
[22:14] <ArdRigh> what version of NetworkManager is current in Ubuntu?
[22:14] <ArdRigh> svn4326 ?
[22:15] <jonathan>  Kann mir jemand helfen, boost.python in Gang zu bringen? Ich habe das gleiche Problem, wie bei https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/boost/+bug/164551 vor einem Jahr als Bug eingetragen und nie bearbeitet wurde.
[22:15] <blip-> hi all, what happens if i reinstall KDE from the package manager on kubunut 8.04 ?   i mean what happens to the settings do they get reset ?
[22:15] <mpee> ArdRigh: I see 0.7~~svn200810 in Intrepid
[22:15] <justizin> starwobble: that's a bit of a last resort, eh? what chipset?
[22:15] <zsquareplusc> !de | jonathan
[22:15] <starwobble> How do I access networkManager? I ca't find it in preferences or administration.
[22:15] <jonathan> zsquareplusc: sorry
[22:15] <mpee> starwobble: if you're running the standard desktop it will be a little applet in your notification area
[22:16] <zsquareplusc> jonathan, no problem :-)  whats jam/bjam?
[22:17] <Trooper2008> !mark
[22:17] <mpee> jonathan: tut mir leid, ich weiss ganz nicts uber boost :)
[22:17] <jonathan> can somebody help me with getting started with boost.python? I have the same problem as described in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/boost/+bug/164551 one year ago. When I follow the boost.python tutorial I always get the error "rule python-extension unknown in module"
[22:17] <yoni_> hola
[22:17] <starwobble> My wireless connection doesn't show up in networkmanager. WHen I run iwconfig link quality, signal level, noise level are all at zero. every single one. Any ideas?
[22:18] <jonathan> zsquareplusc: bjam is a build tool provided by boost, like cmake and others.
[22:18] <Trooper2008> !devel
[22:18] <DavidCanarias> Please does anyone know if I can convert a DVD Video to mpg format???
[22:18] <Trooper2008> !list
[22:18] <Myrtti> !msgthebot | Trooper2008
[22:18] <dgillard> .ca
[22:19] <platius> DavidCanarias;  you should look at acidrip
[22:19] <Sierradump> So I noticed when I rebooted to install ubuntu 8.10 I get the "Aperature beyond 4GB, Ignoring" message... I have a laptop with 2GB Ram and onboard GeForce 6150 video... Should I be concerned with this error???
[22:20] <mpee> starwobble: sorry I haven't used ndiswrapper, you're sure you need it?
[22:20] <shamshel> is there a command line utility that formats C code?
[22:20] <platius> DavidCanarias;  no acidrip does *.avi
[22:21] <dxdemetriou> after the upgrade from Hardy to Intrepid and after some updates, the automount for external devices don't work. I oppened a bug for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/292874 . this problem affects everybody?
[22:21] <starwobble> mpee: I'm using an Atheros card, from what I've read I need to use Ndiswrapper or some other means to get my card to work. Do you have any other ideas to get it to work?
[22:21] <DavidCanarias> patius: Thks for this info. The reason I ask is because I have some photos in mpg format and a DVD Video. I want to put them both on the same DVD and though to convert the DVD to mpg first so they are the same format or do you know if that is really necessary???
[22:22] <McKooter> hey, if anyone is free, im having a hell of a time with apache2 and protected directories with .htaccess and .htpassword, it wont accept my login info
[22:22] <DavidCanarias> Platius: Sorry the above is ment for you!! spelt your name wrong.
[22:22] <steel_lady> ok, the microphone does not work in any application. what can be the reason?
[22:22] <jonathan> noone familiar with boost.python?
[22:22] <iHome> since yesterday, my pidgin popup this: Accept certificate for rsi.hotmail.com? The root certificate this one claims to be issued by is unknown to Pidgin. -- accept reject
[22:22] <iHome> is this harmful to accept? if i click reject, msn seems not working.
[22:22] <Skry^> starwobble, depends on cards model, ath5k and ath9k drivers are in linux-backports-modules-intrepid
[22:22] <platius> starwobble; lshw -C network says what card?
[22:23] <steel_lady> David, como esta kerttu?
[22:23] <chazco> Does anyone know when 2.6.27-10 (kernel with killswitch fix) will make it into 8.10?
[22:23] <blip-> espn
[22:23] <platius> DavidCanarias;  dont know sorry
[22:23] <gusto5> iHome, when you setup your msn account, you didnt do anything special did you?
[22:23] <DavidCanarias> platius: We all still have a lot to learn. Thanks in any case.
[22:23] <mpee> starwobble: have you checked that it doesn't show up in network-manager without ndiswrapper?
[22:23] <a1len> I can't seem to get unrar to recognize the flag -av-... am I doing something wrong?
[22:24] <iHome> gusto5: i guess i ticked the box: notify incoming email ?
[22:24] <six61> hello
[22:24] <zsquareplusc> jonathan, maybe #python knows more or isn't here a boost channel too? i guess you already tried installing libboost-python-dev and libboost-python? (have not used it myself ;-)
[22:24] <steel_lady> DavidCanarias, de q pueblo eres?
[22:24] <six61> how do i see how long my computer is running without shutdown?
[22:24] <iHome> gusto5: that's the only thing i ticked. and also saved password.
[22:24] <dick-richardson> how can I tile windows
[22:24] <dick-richardson> six61, uptime
[22:24] <DavidCanarias> steel_lady: De Tenerife, porque?
[22:25] <starwobble> mpee: I haven't gotten it to do anything without without ndiswrapper. lshw returns      description: Wireless interface
[22:25] <starwobble>        product: AR2413 802.11bg NIC
[22:25] <starwobble>        vendor: Atheros Communications Inc. grep atheros returns same results.
[22:25] <steel_lady> DavidCanarias, Tenerife no es pueblo
[22:25] <gusto5> iHome, im pretty sure thats for offline messages
[22:25] <DavidCanarias> Platius: I have just installed acidrip and it is possible to convert to mpg format so I will give it a try! Thought I'd let you know.
[22:26] <DavidCanarias> steel_lady: Ya lo se!!! Soy del Puerto de la Cruz por?
[22:26] <six61> ok, how do i see the history of "uptime"?
[22:26] <dick-richardson> history?
[22:26] <six61> uptimes in the past
[22:26] <platius> DavidCanarias;  great
[22:26] <six61> it should be logged?
[22:26] <Myrtti> !es | DavidCanarias, steel_lady
[22:26] <gusto5> ihome, hit up https://rsi.hotmail.com and see if you can transfer the security certificate over
[22:26] <iHome> gusto5: no idea why pidgin asks me each time when i started it.
[22:26] <dick-richardson> I don't believe so
[22:26] <six61> ok, thnx
[22:26] <dick-richardson> np
[22:27] <steel_lady> Solo queria saber david.  PC es muy turistico
[22:27] <gusto5> iHome, from what i can tell its something to do with the certificate expiring (pidgin comes with the expiered one, not the new one)
[22:27] <DavidCanarias> OK, thanks and sorry everybody. I was only answering a ladies question!!!!!! Stick to English
[22:27] <iHome> gusto5: i try to keep ubuntu secure. so i clicked "reject" the certificate. no it failed to connect
[22:27] <dick-richardson> six61, you could install uptimed
[22:28] <faik> hi guys
[22:28] <dick-richardson> though i haven't used it
[22:28] <McKooter> haha got it, somehow,,, read the logs usually helps
[22:28] <rbrunhuber> I use cron to backup a repository but it never backups more than 590 mb any clues?
[22:28] <iHome> gusto5: NOW it failed to connect to https://rsi.hotmail.com
[22:28] <gusto5> great
[22:28] <faik> can i ask a question
[22:28] <musictoto> !ask > faik
[22:28] <mker> faik, that's what the channel is here for
[22:28] <Andy80> hi all
[22:29] <gusto5> iHome, from there you should be able to call up the cert
[22:29] <superkiwi> emerald-theme-manager stops responding for a very long time (40-50 seconds) after I change theme. Why?
[22:29] <iHome> gusto5: actually i m very dummy about it. and no idea what it means on that page :D
[22:29] <Andy80> just one question... if on a disk I alread have a /home folder and at next boot I mount another partition on /home/ what does it happen? Do I still see the old /home/* files/folder or do I only see new one?
[22:30] <ubunt1> hello
[22:30] <ubunt1> i need help
[22:30] <toad3030> does anybody play nwn2 with wine 1.0.1??
[22:30] <starwobble> I'm back.
[22:30] <justizin> Andy80: only the new one, unless you use a 'union' mount which afaik is only available on bsd, and is really nutty..
[22:30] <snuitje> for wine questions, try #winehq kthx
[22:30] <quentusrex> How small is ubuntu server install?
[22:30] <justizin> quentusrex: it starts out under a gig, depends what you install..
[22:31] <Andy80> justizin: thanks :) I just want the new one :)
[22:31] <toad3030> ty
[22:31] <gusto5> iHome, okay, so you tried loading https://rsi.hotmail.com right?
[22:31] <quentusrex> justizin: I don't want anything installed. Just the stripped down version
[22:31] <mpee> Andy80: any files in the old /home will still be there though, and still use disk space
[22:31] <justizin> Andy80: the old data is still wasting space, though, so you could move it to /home2, make a new /home, then move /home2 stuff to the new /home once it's mounted..
[22:31] <mker> iHome, I have the same thing in Pidgin with MSN! I missed the whole conversation about this but did you find out anything?
[22:31] <zsquareplusc> Andy80: new files go to the new mount. but files that were opened before the mount are still in the old place
[22:31] <kebomix> hello , i have now ubuntu 8.04 already working , when i tryto install ubuntu 8.10 from cd it give me Busy BOX error !
[22:32] <iHome> gusto5: no. as the hotmail.com always switching sub-domain. i do not bother adding *. ?
[22:32] <ubunt1> ubuntu said  that the garphicas  low
[22:32] <gusto5> iHome and mker, hit https://rsi.hotmail.com
[22:32] <ubunt1> how can i fix it
[22:32] <justizin> quentusrex: all of mine have at least the LAMP stuff installed, so i dunno, i wouldn't expect much results without having at least a gig of storage and, oh, a gig for swap, unless you have tons of RAM.
[22:32] <gusto5> iHome and mker, you should hit a page that says "directory listing denied"
[22:32] <uman> OFFTOPIC, sorry, just a quick question. Does basically everyone in the US have vacation today and tomorrow? or just today or what? Thanks
[22:33] <simard> when I plug in my webcam (logitech quickcam messenger) a module is loaded automatically (usbvideo), however I expect another module to be loaded instead (qcmessenger) but it is not. where is the decision taken to load usbvideo instead ?
[22:33] <mker> gusto5, yup, but what is it all about?
[22:33] <becker`> Hey, could I install Ubuntu with Wubi to another partition other than C where my Windows XP is in? And would it be a problem if I wanted to remove it later?
[22:33] <ubunt1> my ubuntu said that my graphics is low how can i fix it
[22:33] <gusto5> mker, next to the web address, there is the icon, when you hover it it says "verifed by...."
[22:33] <zsquareplusc> ubunt1: please post questions on one line. it's very hard to foll when you make so many lines.
[22:33] <iHome> gusto5: mker http://paste.ubuntu.com/77535/
[22:33] <justizin>  uman: people don't often get much done when they return to work for friday, after thursday off.. it's pretty much a four-day weekend.
[22:33] <Lofde_> I cannot get ubuntu to auto mount a SD Card... i have a Dell Inspiron E1405... all the updates... anyone know what /dev/ the SD slots would be on or how to manually try to mount it
[22:33] <justizin> some of us are performing maintenance while our customers pass out on the couch ;)
[22:34] <quentusrex> Can ubuntu server me installed on a 1 gig flash drive?
[22:34] <ubunt1> help me pls
[22:34] <ubunt1> how can i fix it
[22:34] <justizin> quentusrex: probably.
[22:34] <gusto5> iHome, thats on an https connection to rsi?
[22:34] <uman> justizin, so many people get thursday AND friday off_
[22:34] <uman> ?
[22:34] <Andy80> justizin: it's a fresh install. I explain my situation better: now I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 (32 bit) configured with RAID1 on two disks (I've a separate partition for /home/ ). I've Installed Ubuntu 8.10 (64 bit) in another disk and I want to mount the same /home/ that is in the RAID1.... so I just need the new mounted data.
[22:34] <zsquareplusc> ubunt1: depending on the problem and graphics card, installing the restricted drivers for your card might help. these are different drivers for nvidia or ati
[22:34] <gusto5> mker, when you click that icon, you should have a new menu pop up for advanced details
[22:34] <justizin> uman: "get" or "take" ;)
[22:34] <mker> gusto5, I can accept it from Pidgin if I want, I'm just curious about what it is and why it's appearing. Is it just a new ssl certificate for MSN because the old one was old?
[22:34] <becker`> Hey, could I install Ubuntu with Wubi to another partition other than C (where my Windows XP is in).. And would it be a problem if I wanted to remove it later?
[22:34] <uman> justizin, get
[22:34] <akorpija> hey guys i've just installed openoffice 3.0 but i still somehow have 2.4 installed, how do i make it so that when i isntall a new versino of the same software, it removes the old version? i'm running hardy
[22:34] <gusto5> mker, thats why, but you can export the one from firefox over to pidgin
[22:34] <quentusrex> how large is a lamp install?
[22:34] <uman> justizin, it was a question though, not a statement
[22:35] <justizin> no, i'm telling you, "Get" and "Take" ;)
[22:35] <justizin> uman: #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:35] <mker> gusto5, That's alright, I only use jabber now, stopped using msn just in time to ignore the ssl thing anyway :)
[22:35] <iHome> gusto5: is there any harm if i click "accept" the certificate from hotmail.com ?
[22:35] <sergio> hi guys
[22:35] <gusto5> iHome, not at all
[22:36] <gusto5> iHome, as long as you're sure you're hitting the right serve
[22:36] <iHome> gusto5: ok thanks. relaxed
[22:36] <gusto5> mker and iHome, i foresee it being updatd in the next build
[22:36] <AA28> hey guys can anyone tell me when i download xbox iso from net how can i burn it on dvd using ubuntu?
[22:36] <iHome> gusto5: thanks
[22:36] <peachstone> can anyone help with apache and ssl?
[22:36] <gusto5> AA28, arent xbox isos illegal...
[22:37] <AA28> gusto5 yes :)
[22:37] <gusto5> not a problem iHome, coincidentally the certificate expired on the 27th of this month (TODAY LOL)
[22:37] <Sierradump> Anyone know anything about the " Aperature beyond 4GB... Ignoring "  message?  I am trying to install 8.10 64bit on my laptop and get this message upon booting.  I only have 2GB Ram in the machine...
[22:37] <gusto5> or yesterday
[22:37] <gusto5> two days ago
[22:37] <zsquareplusc> AA28: it should be sufficient to double click iso files. the iso writer application should be opened
[22:37] <AA28> well i tried that allready but when i put dvd in my xbox it's not working
[22:37] <AA28> i guess xbox iso is differnet then regular iso
[22:38] <gusto5> iHome, is this your only point of access to the internet?
[22:38] <mker> AA28, Maybe you have to burn it in a special way, google and find out
[22:38] <gusto5> AA28, your xbox IS modified right?
[22:38] <AA28> no
[22:38] <gusto5> oh
[22:38] <AA28> it's not gusto5
[22:38] <gusto5> then you cant run ISOs like that
[22:38] <iHome> gusto5: what do you mean?
[22:38] <becker`> Hey, could I install Ubuntu with Wubi to another drive other than "C:"? And would it be a problem if I wanted to remove it later?
[22:38] <gusto5> iHome, like, if you are at work right now, do you have internet elsewhere like at home?
[22:39] <iHome> gusto5: yes. i have more than 1 internet
[22:39] <gusto5> iHome, if you get a chance, see if you can hit https://rsi.hotmail.com somewhere else
[22:39] <gusto5> without getting the error
[22:39] <gusto5> if you can
[22:39] <AA28> i have one more questions i have amd64 box and i install ubuntu 64 bit now is that better then to run as 32 bit?
[22:39] <gusto5> export the certificate and add it to pidgin
[22:39] <iHome> gusto5: ok i will try
[22:40] <gusto5> if you need to know how at that point
[22:40] <gusto5> ask someone here, or me if im around
[22:40] <gusto5> its rather straight-fward
[22:40] <iHome> gusto5: ok thanks mate
[22:40] <gusto5> very well
[22:40] <McKooter> okay, now i got one more question, on samba if someone is fammiliar, i have two shares, identical in smb.conf (except for path) i can access one, i cant the other
[22:40] <zsquareplusc> AA28: depends on your needs 64 bits makes sense for >=4GB RAM. if you want wide support for proprietary software 32 bit is easier. i ruin 64 bit as all the standard apps run fine
[22:40] <iHome> gusto5: for dummies just so scared at clicking at something. eg this ...
[22:41] <gusto5> iHome, good call for you to be wise
[22:41] <zsquareplusc> McKooter: the unix file permissions must also allow reading. and the path to the folder must have the x bit
[22:41] <dreamy> wich graphics card driver.. started running automaticly in my X.. considering that none is defined in my xorg.conf (this is my simple question)
[22:41] <iHome> gusto5: i tried to paste a screenshot via past, but it does not work .:(
[22:42] <AA28> ok  thank you
[22:42] <zsquareplusc> dreamy: that should get logged in /var/log/Xorg.log
[22:42] <johnny5> anyone familiar with installing phpmyadmin on ubuntu server. I have some questions.
[22:42] <qcjn> still can't connect to ssh
[22:42] <McKooter> zsquareplusc: the path is actually on the webserver so in /var/www/blabla   the blabla folder itself has permissions,
[22:42] <dreamy> zsquareplusc: ok.. ty alot
[22:42] <gusto5> iHome, screen shot of the error?
[22:42] <johnny5> i installed it but didn't configure it for any webserver. i'm hoping to just create a script alias in each vhost and have the same phpmyadmin install work for all vhosts
[22:43] <peachstone> can anyone help with apache and ssl?
[22:43] <gnutron> qcjn: hello again, question: have you got more than that one machine on your LAN running an ssh deamon?
[22:43] <iHome> gusto5: anyway i pasted here: http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/10930
[22:44] <iHome> gusto5: today's 96 updates, but it warns me, so i m hesitating...
[22:44] <gusto5> rofl nice iHome, no, the update's just fine
[22:44] <gusto5> iHome, i dunno how you accumulated 96 updates =P
[22:44] <qcjn> no...except that someone proposed to installed openssh-server on "my client machine" yesterday
[22:45] <johnny5> anyone see my question, not sure if my irc client is working
[22:45] <iHome> gusto5: well i just updated lots, now another 96.. i just installed 8.10 this morning.
[22:45] <gusto5> ohhh okayokay =)
[22:45] <LoveGuru> Hi, i just made new partition using "gparted" but "df -h doen't show that partition there.. i have too do something else to make it appear?
[22:45] <zsquareplusc> iHome: do you have added other than ubuntu's package repositories?
[22:45] <Andy80> justizin: if I execute (from Ubuntu 8.10 - 64 bit): sudo mdadm --create --verbose --auto=yes /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb2 /dev/sdc2, isn't it distructive for existing data, right?
[22:45] <dreamy> (question) can i ask questions about the DRI project here? (3d accelaration drivers)
[22:45] <qcjn> gnutron: i ve made a page with all the information about my ssh
[22:46] <gnutron> qcjn: that doesn't matter, i'd have it on both, my question was because you may not be ssh'ing the box you want due to dhcp addresses may have changed.
[22:46] <iHome> zsquareplusc: .cn i just did
[22:46] <gnutron> qcjn: cn you vnc to that machine and issue sudo prefixed commands?
[22:46] <zsquareplusc> iHome: that's where the unauthenticates packages come from. you can try to find the signature for that repository and add it do synaptic. that way it can verify that packages too
[22:47] <iHome> zsquareplusc: deb http://archive.ubuntu.org.cn/ubuntu-cn/ intrepid main restricted universe multiverse
[22:47] <kebomix> any help with busy box problem while installing ubuntu ?
[22:47] <qcjn> gnutron: i don't understand nothing you're saying ?
[22:47] <iHome> zsquareplusc: i do not know howto?
[22:48] <zsquareplusc> kebomix: is its saying something special? like that it cant find the CD?
[22:48] <Sierradump> is 8.10 as stable as 8.04.1
[22:48] <gnutron> qcjn: ssh -l login-name ip-address has to work. unless that name doesnt exist or you have a hosts.allow or hosts.deny file in /etc
[22:49] <iHome> zsquareplusc: well does not bother me for the moment. will ask later :D
[22:49] <qcjn> gnutron: i ll look for a hosts file
[22:49] <gusto5> LoveGuru, can you run sudo fdisk -l
[22:49] <quentusrex> Is there any interest in having a ubuntu based voip server?
[22:49] <gnutron> qcjn: when we tried scp [secure copy] it said /home/that-user did not exist.. therein lies the problem i suspect.
[22:50] <gnutron> qcjn: you have a hosts file, no doubt about that, and thats not the reason
[22:51] <gluonman> Can anyone explain how to completely turn off SCIM and prevent it from automatically starting up?
[22:51] <kharloss> hi . someone can help me setup phpmyadmin after syscp install ?   http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=22275     error 500   looks like  an .htaccess error   but i cant manage this . any one can help
[22:51] <qcjn> gnutron: it doesn't make any sense..because it worked before wit he same username & host and it worked...and my vnc works with the same user ?
[22:52] <zsquareplusc> kebomix: please answer on this channel. the usual problem when the installer drops to the busy box is that the CD can not be found. did you check the cd for errors (also avilable in the boot menu on the disc)
[22:52] <kebomix> yeah
[22:52] <kebomix> i did
[22:52] <kebomix> no errors !!
[22:52] <kebomix> i made it in lowest speed twice cuz i thought wrong on cd
[22:53] <zsquareplusc> kebomix: so you tell that you already have 8.04. you could upgrade that one, instead of overwriting it with a 8.10 install
[22:53] <gnutron> qcjn: if you have a /etc/hosts.allow or /etc/hosts.deny file with entries in it, that could prevent it. you probably have those files and by default they should be fine and allow incoming connections.
[22:53] <liri> I've got ubuntu dapper 6.06 installed and I need to upgrade my php packages to the latest (5.2.6). whats a safe way of doing that?
[22:53] <gluonman> How can I make SCIM behave like any other program that I can run and quit, run and quit, without it annoyingly starting automatically after a key-command and not being able to quit.
[22:53] <gluonman> ?
[22:53] <mtinman> kharloss: check the file access permissions on the php root directory, that has caused me problems in the past.
[22:53] <kebomix> yeah , i upgraded before but network manager applet wasnt appear to me
[22:53] <gnutron> qcjn: ssh worked before?
[22:54] <zsquareplusc> liri: 6.06 was also an LTS release? you could go to 8.04 to get newer sofware ;-)  otheriwse, check for a backports repository. newer versions of some software is provided there
[22:54] <qcjn> gnutron: yes it did ...before i made an update
[22:54] <gnutron> qcjn: do you have local access to this machine?
[22:54] <gnutron> qcjn: what update
[22:55] <qcjn> it's all in local..and once from my job
[22:55] <liri> zsquareplusc: yeah I'm not interested in an total upgrade to 8.04, I just care about php
[22:55] <gnutron> qcjn: there was a recent ssh cipher update on hardy
[22:55] <qcjn> gnutron: the general update  upgrade ...sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:56] <gnutron> qcjn: i mean can you sit in front of the machine physically, in person?
[22:56] <zsquareplusc> kebomix: network settings should be possible to do in system->prefs->network. the network manager (nm-applet) should run. but it sometimes hides when there is only one connection
[22:56] <LoveGuru> gusto5: ya i got that partition from fdisk -l and i just mount that partition in /mnt/sda3 .. i just want to know that how can i made that partition auto mount whenever i boot my linux. and can i add that partition entry in "df -h" ?
[22:56] <probetestspass> hallo how is the GERMAN channel called??
[22:57] <spanther> probetestspass, ubuntu-de
[22:57] <mkerd> liri, this might help you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[22:57] <probetestspass> thx spanter
[22:57] <Ashfire908> Hi, I need help. i'm trying to use Verizon BroadbandAccess service on ubuntu and I'm getting way too slow of a speed (2-4 KB/s) to be correct.
[22:57] <qcjn> gnutron: i m using hardy...yes i can but i ve got to use the same keyboard..so it s kind of complicated
[22:57] <zsquareplusc> liri: taking packages from newer ubuntu is probably not possible beacause it will also depend on newer packages. with some luck however, you could apt-get source the latest package and rebuild for your system
[22:57] <Ashfire908> But I can't lookup if i need a user/pass or something because the connection is so slow, could someone help me figure this out?
[22:58] <qcjn> so for now what i do is use vnc terminal client
[22:58] <qcjn> so for now what i do is use vnc terminal clientso for now what i do is use vnc terminal client
[22:58] <qcjn> gnutron: excuse me for that doubling
[22:58] <gnutron> qcjn: well, id try using synaptic on the target machine and completely remove openssh-server and then fresh install it. one more idea. on your local box in a terminal type 'rm ~/ssh/known.hosts'
[22:59] <CarlFK> what is good for video web cam chat?
[22:59] <zsquareplusc> CarlFK: software? i hear ekiga can do that
[22:59] <Slart> CarlFK: there isn't that many good web cam chat apps.. there's skype, ekiga
[22:59] <Slart> CarlFK: afaik none of the im-apps handle webcams
[23:00] <stefano> Slart, CarlFK doesn't Empathy handle webcams?
[23:00] <gnutron> qcjn: you may use vnc and sudo apt-get remove openssh-server ... then sudo apt-get install openssh-server.
[23:00] <mkerd> Empathy is pretty crappy for now
[23:00] <Slart> Empathy? haven't even heard of it..
[23:01] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: do you get an error when conencting to your ssh server?
[23:01] <qcjn> gnutron: ok
[23:01] <stefano> empathy is ne new instant messanging client selected as default by the gnome project, i hear it can handle webcams, unlike ekiga with more protocolls than just sip
[23:01] <themastermind> I'm trying to get flash player to work in firefox (for youtube, etc), any ideas?
[23:01] <zsquareplusc> !flash
[23:01] <themastermind> awesome, thanks
[23:01] <gnutron> qcjn: answer zsquareplusc's question for me/us, do you see an error when you try ssh
[23:02] <Slart> stefano, CarlFK: empathy shows a screenshot with some kind of webcam.. might be worth a try
[23:02] <mkerd> CarlFK, Ekiga 3.0 has support for web cam, but Ubuntu 8.10 has version 2.0 so you'll have to install it manually.
[23:02] <qcjn> gnutron: Permission denied (publickey,password).
[23:02] <meyou_> how come when i play videos or music in Totem the visuals blink and stuff?
[23:02] <gusto5> LoveGuru, try editing your fstab
[23:02] <kebomix> zsquareplusc: yeah it was telling me that nm-applet run but it wasnt appear in toolbar
[23:02] <meyou_> in vlc i had the same issue but i changed to x11 output
[23:02] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: you try to authenticate with a private key? is that key "old"?
[23:02] <meyou_> but can't find that in totem options
[23:03] <gnutron> qcjn: you arent trying to put the password on the command line are you? you must wait for a prompt to do that
[23:03] <zsquareplusc> kebomix: same here. but the sys->prefs->net menu works to make changes
[23:03] <stefano> meyou_, i think this is the expected behaviour when you start to run out of graphics memory. do you have the additional effects enabled, or just the basic ones?
[23:03] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: gnutron i don t remember using or making any key
[23:03] <gnutron> qcjn: the keys generate themselves
[23:03] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: you are questined for a password?
[23:03] <zsquareplusc> questioned even
[23:04] <CarlFK> mkerd: thanks
[23:04] <zimbres> What program should i use to download via cvs?
[23:04] <qcjn> gnutron: it ask me for a pass and i give it
[23:04] <gnutron> qcjn: are you certain its typed correctly? its very sensiive
[23:04] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: ok so you have password authentication enabled. its possible to have that one disabled. the user is the correct one for the password?
[23:05] <calwig> hi guys i have a huge problem with wpasupplicant
[23:05] <qcjn> the thing is that before the upgrade i used it a couple of time and noe i do the same thing and it don't work ...and i m sure i type correctly
[23:05] <calwig> but perhaps someone could help me fix it
[23:05] <Sierradump> Anyone familiar with the " Aperature beyond 4GB.... Ignoring "  message upon booting into 8.10? Doesn't happen with 8.04.1 -> I hate to install 8.10 and get everything updated and find out I have to revert to 8.04!
[23:06] <SimAtWork> the ubuntu repositories seems super slow today!
[23:06] <gnutron> qcjn: if you can un-install then re-install via vnc, i bet it will work.
[23:06] <SimAtWork> trying to apt-get install kde.. it's been doing for HOURS
[23:06] <gnutron> qcjn: something went whacky
[23:06] <mkerd> Sierradump, Did you google? I find several pages with that error message.
[23:06] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: just to verify you could type the password into a shell and see if its correct? (not pressing enter, delte afterwards) that would ensure that you dont have a wrong but similar keyboard map
[23:06] <qcjn> gnutron: i think it is the best solution
[23:06] <liri> zsquareplusc: I prefer not to download the sources myself, as I probably require the entire bunch of php5 applications. how can I upgrade to 5.2.6 then on interpid?
[23:06] <calwig> Installed Ubuntu Hardy out of the box and I can connect to any network but not a WPA+WPA2 network with a password. wpasupplicant is installed, what do I have to install additionally to allow me to connect wirelessly
[23:06] <gnutron> qcjn: it cant hurt, except the keys wot match
[23:07] <RabidWeezle> I am looking for a linux hard drive diagnostic tool for both ntfs and ext3
[23:07] <mkerd> liri, the link I sent didn't help?
[23:07] <gnutron> qcjn: hence the need to rm known.hosts file on your local client box
[23:07] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: it s the same password, when i do things using vnc, lets say i start mpd it ask me for the password.. and it works
[23:08] <RabidWeezle> is there an app that checks hard drives for hardware errors?
[23:08] <zsquareplusc> liri: i try to use the software that i find in ubuntus repositories. some times there are newer versions available from the upstram programmer/team. and sometimes there are braches on laucnchpad (PPA) dont know if that the case for yours
[23:08] <mkerd> RabidWeezle, badblocks
[23:08] <liri> mkerd: I must have missed it. let me scroll up
[23:08] <stefano> RabidWeezle, fsck does that
[23:08] <mkerd> liri, this might help you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[23:08] <qcjn> gnutron: ok,,i m unsinstalling it
[23:08] <RabidWeezle> for NTFS aswell?
[23:08] <mkerd> RabidWeezle, No idea
[23:08] <meyou_> stefano: i've got everything turned up, but my comp/gfx should be fine for it
[23:08] <meyou_> and it does this when i have everything on minimum too
[23:09] <meyou_> if it's on opengl in vlc the video is blinky and stuff, but switching it to x11 and it works great
[23:09] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: but vnc and others use their own password. ssh uses the system (login) password of the account with that name. can you log in with the same user/pass directly at the machine? (or using vnc and "login" in a shell)
[23:09] <qcjn> gnutron: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove opessh-server
[23:09] <snuitje> RabidWeezle: try smartctl -t
[23:09] <retro_> is any chance to convert 64-bit ubuntu to 32-bit ubuntu - i must change CPU for few weeks and i don't want to reinstall
[23:09] <RabidWeezle> is there a SMART hard drive tool for linux?
[23:09] <RabidWeezle> ahh
[23:09] <snuitje> RabidWeezle: (see man smartctl)
[23:09] <mkerd> retro_, nope, have to reinstall
[23:09] <Sierradump> mkerd -> yes I did google but I can't find anything conclusive other than people are getting that error and having problems, some immediate and some days later involving the stability of their machines (some report machines freeze, others lose display, others can't boot etc...)  Just want to see if anyone knows anything about it????
[23:10] <RabidWeezle> kk
[23:10] <gnutron> qcjn: i think that will work
[23:10] <jimdb1> rabidweezle:  absolutely there is a fantastic one
[23:10] <semtido> hi. im having a problem with bluetooth in 8.10, on a toshiba laptop. cant seem to even turn on...
[23:10] <liri> mkerd: I'm reading that... so should I be adding the interpid repository, pin it like in the example and use apt-get to install php5?
[23:10] <zsquareplusc> retro_, unfortunately not. but you could keep/backup your /etc and /home folders to carry over most settings
[23:11] <retro_> thanks
[23:11] <jimdb1> rabidweezle:  http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/10/gsmartcontrol-hard-disk-drive-health.html
[23:11] <zsquareplusc> retro_: or install a 32 bit system on a separate partition and share the /home
[23:11] <mkerd> Sierradump, Well this seems to have worked for some http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=934ffaec0473c9a4a59bb47040fc354e&p=6133097#post6133097 but I don't know if it will for you
[23:11] <jimdb1> rabidweezle tell me what you think of it when you get it up and running.
[23:11] <retro_> zsquereplusc: not a bad idea
[23:11] <mkerd> liri, I've never used backports myself but if you do as the instructions say I'm sure you'll do fine
[23:12] <qcjn> gnutron: i m uninstalling it now
[23:12] <zsquareplusc> mkerd, liri backports from ubuntu are as easy as making a checkbox in the system->admin->package sources settings
[23:12] <liri> the thing is, I looked in interpid-backports on the packages.ubuntu.com and I didn't see that php5 is there
[23:12] <gnutron> qcjn: onthe remote box right?
[23:13] <qcjn> no, now on the server side
[23:13] <liri> zsquareplusc: I'm on command line :)
[23:13] <gnutron> qcjn: that wont help, its the remote server we need to fix.
[23:13] <qcjn> you mean the client side
[23:14] <zsquareplusc> liri: then as easy as adding a deb line in /etc/apt/sources.list ;-) oh well, i guess you already found that line in the wiki link from above
[23:14] <qcjn> gnutron: you mean the client side
[23:14] <gnutron> qcjn: zsquareplusc may be right, you may be using the wrong password
[23:14] <gnutron> qcjn: no, i mean the remote host side, the target box
[23:14] <qcjn> i only have ONE password...so it s impossible
[23:14] <Sierradump> mkerd: helps a little - So what is the difference between the "NOAPIC" and "NOACPI" commands?
[23:15] <forcumang> are there any terminal based im applications?
[23:15] <qcjn> gnutron: thats done
[23:15] <mkerd> Sierradump, I don't know, sorry
[23:15] <snuitje> apic != acpi, former is advanced programmable interrupt controler, latter is something with power management
[23:15] <zsquareplusc> qcjn (gnutron): and.. check /var/log/auth.log it contains the error messages that happen when authentication fails
[23:15] <gnutron> forcumang: talk and ytalk
[23:15] <mkerd> forcumang, pidgin has one, I think it's called finch or something like that.
[23:16] <elliott_kurtco> hi
[23:16] <zsquareplusc> forcumang: irssi (irc client)
[23:16] <gnutron> qcjn: now re-install it and verify it's running
[23:16] <qcjn> gnutron: back in a second
[23:17] <RabidWeezle> how do I get a dist upgrade from console?
[23:17] <gnutron> zsquareplusc: irssi needs a running ircd
[23:17] <pastr1> hi all
[23:17] <exodus_ms> elliott_kurtco, just jump in and ask your question : )
[23:17] <pastr1> i am a newbe
[23:17] <snuitje> RabidWeezle: sudo do-release-upgrade
[23:17] <RabidWeezle> can't I use apt-get to do a dist upgrade?
[23:17] <Myrtti> gnutron: whut?
[23:17] <RabidWeezle> thanks
[23:17] <zsquareplusc> gnutron: right, but he said command line, not local to the system ;-)
[23:17] <gnutron> RabidWeezle: yes you an
[23:17] <snuitje> RabidWeezle: you could but there's a script that does it all for you
[23:18] <pastr1> i wanted to instaell ubuntu on my laptop via wubi
[23:18] <liri> there's no interpid-backports repository
[23:18] <gnutron> zsquareplusc: sorry
[23:18] <pastr1> and i get
[23:18] <pastr1> irc.freenode.net
[23:18] <pastr1> nope
[23:18] <Myrtti> !paste | pastr1
[23:18] <qcjn> gnutron: ok, i m reinstalling it
[23:18] <RabidWeezle> no new release found?!
[23:18] <RabidWeezle> weird
[23:18] <RabidWeezle> I thought a new version came out
[23:18] <RabidWeezle> :/
[23:18] <snuitje> RabidWeezle: try -d for 'development release'
[23:18] <zsquareplusc> liri: there sure is, see http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[23:18] <RabidWeezle> kk
[23:18] <gnutron> Myrtti: umm, what, what!?
[23:19] <Myrtti> gnutron: irssi requires ircd...
[23:19] <RabidWeezle> there we go
[23:19] <RabidWeezle> thanks there snuitje
[23:19] <zsquareplusc> RabidWeezle: your on 8.04? thats LTS if you want 8.10 you have to tell it to not be LTS
[23:19] <snuitje> yw
[23:19] <pastr1> is there a good place for ubuntu beginners , i need some help with the install
[23:19] <gnutron> RabidWeezle: i think its apt-get dist-upgrade but you better google check at ubuntu
[23:19] <Myrtti> pastr1: this is it
[23:19] <pastr1> ok then
[23:20] <zsquareplusc> !upgrade > RabidWeezle
[23:20] <pastr1> i wanted to install it with  wubi und win xp on a laptop
[23:20] <gnutron> Myrtti: yeah, to use irssi to chat, you need to connect to a server running a ircd process.
[23:20] <Myrtti> pastr1: yes...?
[23:20] <mkerd> pastr1, just try to keep your questions in *one* message. it makes it easier for us to follow and increases your chances of getting an answer.
[23:20] <pastr1> and i get this ' the display server has been restarted up to 6 times in the last 90 seconds, which usually means something bad has happened. Waiting 2 minutes before trying again
[23:20] <pastr1> ok i try
[23:21] <zsquareplusc> pastr1: so you don't get a graphical log-in?
[23:21] <Myrtti> gnutron: you didn't need to connect to a server running a ircd process when you came here?
[23:21] <snuitje> RabidWeezle: btw i always do upgrades in a screen session, if for some reason X b0rks or i have to log out during the upgrade, it doesn't ruin everything =)
[23:21] <mariooliveira_> hello
[23:21] <RabidWeezle> ooh
[23:21] <mkerd> snuitje, that's not a bad idea, thanks
[23:21] <gnutron> Myrtti: are you telling me freenode has no ircd? youre wrong
[23:22] <qcjn> gnutron: ok, i ve installed it , start it, and try it ...it says Host key verification failed.
[23:22] <pastr1> i do get the orangy graphic windows with everything loading and stuff, but then during the process it fails
[23:22] <Myrtti> gnutron: no, I'm asking you if *other* clients wouldn't need ircd ;-)
[23:22] <Myrtti> gnutron: irssi is no exception to other IRC clients
[23:22] <gnutron> qcjn: cool, now do this on your  local box from your home dir
[23:22] <gluonman> SCIM is annoying. If I exit it, it stubbornly comes back within a second. It's so invasive. It's starts automatically. I only want it as a program that I can manually run and quit like any other program. How can I do this?
[23:23] <gnutron> qcjn: rm ~/.ssh/known.hosts
[23:23] <qcjn> gnutron: ok
[23:23] <jeebster> gluonman: Doesn't come back here if I don't switch to it o_O
[23:23] <jeebster> ctrl+space, that is
[23:23] <gluonman> jeebster, what do you mean?
[23:23] <gnutron> qcjn: now it should connect, ask to accept key and prompt for a pass
[23:23] <calwig> hi guys i have a huge problem with wpasupplicant
[23:23] <jeebster> I use SCIM&Anthy to input japanese
[23:23] <calwig> Installed Ubuntu Hardy out of the box and I can connect to any network but not a WPA+WPA2 network with a password. wpasupplicant is installed, what do I have to install additionally to allow me to connect wirelessly
[23:24] <gnutron> Myrtti: no, clients need no ircd
[23:24] <jeebster> ctrl+space toggles it on/off
[23:24] <gluonman> jeebster, so what do I do to make it into a program that I can manually run and quit?
[23:24] <qcjn> qcjn@qcjn-desktop:~$ rm ~/.ssh/known.hosts
[23:24] <qcjn> rml: ne peut enlever `/home/qcjn/.ssh/known.hosts': Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type
[23:24] <snuitje> pastr1: try loggin on in the console and run startx
[23:24] <qcjn> gnutron:
[23:24] <jeebster> gluonman: I have no idea :3
[23:24] <gluonman> jeebster, okay.
[23:24] <Myrtti> gnutron: what is irssi then?
[23:25] <jeebster> But I wonder why it's being annoying in your case
[23:25] <gnutron> Myrtti: an irc client
[23:25] <jeebster> Because for me it just stays put until I call it
[23:25] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: on the client side? the known.hosts file?
[23:25] <PrebenR> My wife's Asus EEE 901 runs Ubuntu 8.10, but the font's are really huge. It seems the xorg runs at 96dpi. Any idea what I can do to get them smaller?
[23:25] <qcjn> gnutron: yes
[23:25] <gnutron> Myrtti: i was a global oper on undernet, i'm pretty certain of this.
[23:26] <jimdb1> does anyone know how to remove the Kubuntu loading screens and switch them back to unbuntu?
[23:26] <mkerd> PrebenR, system -> preferences -> appearance
[23:26] <snuitje> -> fonts
[23:26] <pastr1> @ snuitje : i never did something with ubuntu before . you are talking to a complete noob
[23:26] <exodus_ms> calwig, i dont know if this helps but give it a look might get you in the right direction http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=754059
[23:26] <Myrtti> gnutron: if irssi is an irc client, and irc clients don't need no ircd, why is irssi an exception all of a sudden?
[23:26] <mariooliveira_> i need help identifying way my system freezes completly. this happens  using flightgear cvs.    not always happens  sometimes i can fly and then sometimes all my linux system freezes completely
[23:26] <snuitje> pastr1: press ctrl+alt+f1 that should give you a login: prompt
[23:26] <Vinceman> !woot
[23:27] <gnutron> qcjn: my mistake its rm ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[23:27] <zsquareplusc> jimdb1: you mean the log in screen or the session afterwards?
[23:27] <pastr1> @ snuitje : ok and then what
[23:27] <gluonman> jeebster, probably because the key commands are too similar to some of my default compiz key commands. So when I try to switch workspaces, it suddenly changes to Greek. I'm constantly having to change back to English.
[23:27] <gluonman> jeebster, but it runs automatically in the background, and when I try to exit it will come back in a second.
[23:27] <Smegzor1> On this pc, every new window that is opened does NOT get focus and has to be clicked in the panel.  Where do I change that behaviour?  Nobody knows (or will admit to) how it changed.
[23:27] <snuitje> pastr1: log in with your account
[23:27] <gnutron> Myrtti: you lost me
[23:27] <mariooliveira_> i need to identyfy what is causing this if its my ati graphic driver
[23:27] <PrebenR> mkerd, I changed the font size from 12 to 8, but it still is a problem when editing OPenoffice documents that has font size 12
[23:27] <Myrtti> gnutron: no, you lost me
[23:27] <mariooliveira_> or somthing else
[23:27] <mkerd> gluonman, turn off compiz while playing maybe, it is a bit of a hassle though
[23:27] <gnutron> Myrtti: i think we agree in any event :)
[23:28] <PrebenR> mkerd, I thought that it was a problem with that the system ran at 75 dpi
[23:28] <jeebster> gluonman: IIRC it doesn't use that much stuff while idle, and you can change the default hotkeys ;)
[23:28] <forcumang> i can't add buddies in finch? :/
[23:28] <jeebster> So that would possibly fix it :)
[23:28] <qcjn> ok i m connected
[23:28] <mkerd> PrebenR, Change the fonts in Openoffice too then?
[23:28] <pastr1> @snuitje : i think i am stuck in the boot process where he is checking everything
[23:28] <gnutron> qcjn: rock on dude
[23:28] <mkerd> forcumang, read the manual :)
[23:28] <jimdb1> does anyone know how to remove the Kubuntu loading screens and switch them back to unbuntu?
[23:28] <gluonman> mkerd, why would I turn off compiz? SCIM isn't related to compiz.
[23:28] <PrebenR> mkerd, but if I edit a document and then send it somebody to edit I cannot write it in size 8
[23:29] <qcjn> Warning: Permanently added '192.168.0.102' (RSA) to the list of known hosts.
[23:29] <snuitje> PrebenR: in the oo.o settings you can make the ui smaller too
[23:29] <Twinkletoes|W> Is nagios3 in the repositories yet?  I can only see nagios2, yet we're already at v3.0.5  ?
[23:29] <zsquareplusc> jimdb1: you mean the log in screen or the session afterwards? (why do you repeat your question instead of answeing?) ;-)
[23:29] <neil_d> just installed the new kernel version but /boot/grub/menu.lst didn't get changed what command do I run to  update the menu.lst ?
[23:29] <snuitje> PrebenR: it can scale iirc from 80% to 120%
[23:29] <qcjn> can i go an change the motd
[23:29] <Zzeiss> Hmmm... where does "image viewer" save it's previously viewed files?
[23:29] <PrebenR> problem is that on my desktop the fonts are not so big.
[23:29] <mkerd> gluonman, sorry I thought you were the flightgear guy
[23:29] <gnutron> qcjn: that message is all good, it prevents the man in the middle attack
[23:29] <PrebenR> why should they be on the small screen?
[23:29] <gluonman> mkerd, okay.
[23:30] <snuitje> pastr1: you dont get the login: prompt? did you get to enter your password?
[23:30] <gnutron> qcjn: yes you can
[23:30] <pastr1> @snuitje : exactly
[23:30] <zsquareplusc> PrebenR: you can change the basic fonts in system->prefs->appearance
[23:30] <qcjn> gnutron: ok, don t remember where it is
[23:30] <pastr1> @ snuitje no
[23:31] <gnutron> qcjn: i'd have to look, but why bother
[23:31] <zsquareplusc> neil_d: update-grub should take care of that. however that should be run automatically if you install a kernel from ubuntu
[23:31] <pastr1> @snuitje : i cant tell in what stage of the install i am in , there is nothing like a progress bar
[23:31] <gnutron> qcjn: youre a perfectionist eh!
[23:31] <qcjn> gnutron: gotta go and eat supper...thanks be back in half hour
[23:32] <snuitje> qcjn: sudo nano /etc/motd
[23:32] <qcjn> gnutron: yes perfectionnist
[23:32] <Heooo> Can someone explain this: "if you want to read the description of what the `C-f' key does, type `i C - f<RET>'. ? In other words, I want to find from indeces, what a certain command do.
[23:32] <calwig> !wpa
[23:32] <qcjn> gnutron: ok
[23:32] <qcjn> gnutron: be back
[23:32] <neil_d> zsquareplusc: when the update-manager ran it asked for an option I think I gave it the wrong one.
[23:32] <trainpic1> hello
[23:32] <exodus_ms> calwig, did you get my previous link?
[23:33] <trainpic1> i have a question about the turion x2 powersaving problems in 2.6.24
[23:33] <snuitje> pastr1: are you running from the cd?
[23:33] <trainpic1> are these fixed in 2.6.27?
[23:33] <jimdb1> zsquareplusc:  no, i mean the screen that says "ubuntu" and has the progress bar that is displayed while the OS is booting.  It was changed via some command when I went to upgrade or install something such as kde 4.x.  I want it changed back from saying Kubuntu to Ubuntu since Ubuntu is what I installed.
[23:33] <forcumang> ahh ctrl+x shows the list
[23:33] <forcumang> i see
[23:33] <dmb> how can you see what applications are locking up the sound system?
[23:33] <pastr1> @snuitje : no , i wanted to install it with wubi. do you know it?
[23:33] <dmb> i get permission denied for /dev/dsp
[23:33] <gnutron> snuitje: /etc/motd is a symlink
[23:33] <snuitje> pastr1: yep
[23:34] <calwig> exodus_ms: mm no which?
[23:34] <zsquareplusc> jimdb1: oh, thats something about splash screen. i guess there is a package for that
[23:34] <exodus_ms> calwig, i dont know if this helps but give it a look might get you in the right direction http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=754059
[23:34] <gnutron> snuitje: /var/run/motd is the real deal
[23:34] <pastr1> @ snuitje: everybody told it was idiot proof...
[23:34] <snuitje> gnutron: you can safely remove the link and replace it with something else if you like
[23:34] <shad0w0fsin> dmb: do "sudo fuser /dev/dsp"
[23:34] <pastr1> @ snuitje: i guess i proofed them wrong
[23:35] <dmb> shad0w0fsin, only shows pulsadio and the mixerapplet
[23:35] <gnutron> snuitje: that would work i'm pretty sure.
[23:35] <dmb> erm, itts actually blank when doing it with /dev/dsp
[23:35] <PrebenR> xdpyinfo reports 133x135 dpi
[23:35] <zsquareplusc> jimdb1: usplash-theme-ubuntu is a likely candidate
[23:35] <PrebenR> is that the problem?
[23:35] <snuitje> gnutron: i think that was just because an init script wants to update it on every boot
[23:36] <gnutron> snuitje: you can trash that link and you'll still get the message iirc
[23:36] <snuitje> gnutron: orly
[23:36] <gnutron> snuitje: that makes sense, good call.
[23:37] <gnutron> snuitje: edit /var/run/motd and you get what you want.
[23:37] <raven_> my sound kinda stopped working abruptly
[23:37] <raven_> i rebooted, no boot sound
[23:37] <raven_> help?
[23:38] <snuitje> gnutron: read /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[23:38] <jimdb1> anyone know how I get a list of obutu commands?
[23:38] <calwig> exodus_ms: thanks, are you also having this issue or just looked it up?
[23:39] <gnutron> snuitje: ok, will do.
[23:39] <exodus_ms> calwig, just looke dit up
[23:39]  * raven_ updates ubuntu
[23:39] <pastr1> snuitje : do you have any suggestions left?
[23:40] <snuitje> pastr1: try rebooting with the cd in
[23:40] <snuitje> pastr1: see if you can get ubuntu to boot that way
[23:40] <pastr1> snuitje: i have no cd
[23:40] <benoka> my wireless USB card connection came up very slowly and still runs very slowly - net connection on other computer on the same router with windows runs ok
[23:40] <exodus_ms> calwig, I have had wireless issues in the past but mostly due to driver issues
[23:40] <snuitje> pastr1: oh you d/led wuby
[23:40] <snuitje> *wubi
[23:40] <pastr1> snuitje: that was supposed to be the joy of wubi
[23:40] <pastr1> snuitje yes
[23:41] <snuitje> pastr1: well wubi still needs to get an image to start with -_-'
[23:41] <semtido> HELP
[23:41] <semtido> HELP
[23:41] <Smegzor1> Anyone know how to get a tv tuner card working?  Its a Pixelview tv pro 3 card using the bt878 chipset.  I got a picture and no sound originally and now I have sound and no picture.
[23:41] <pastr1> snuitje yes it downloaded 700mb and installet it, made a particion ... etc
[23:42] <gnutron> snuitje: ok, i see what you mean, i've edited the motd before, just forgot how/where i did it, that was years ago
[23:42] <Zzeiss> Smegzor1: Hmmm... methinks you have the wrong video type configured.  That particular situation can happen when you have cable-vs-broadcast wrong.
[23:42] <pastr1> snuitje : it says that you do not need a cd
[23:42] <snuitje> pastr1: well wubi downloaded the iso for you
[23:43] <Lovalangusta> How is it possible to install a version of MSN which can be used between ubuntu and windows users? I it's possible because I have seen it. I just don't know how. I'm new to this system .-)
[23:43] <Zzeiss> Smegzor1: Or have the wrong cable-channel-table set up.
[23:43] <snuitje> pastr1: so indeed you dont need a cd, but you do have the cd /image/
[23:43] <Smegzor1> Zzeiss: the signal is terrestrial tv (ie not cable or satellite or digital)
[23:43] <zsquareplusc> Smegzor1: or pal/ntsc mismatch
[23:43] <Zzeiss> Smegzor1: OK.  NTSC?
[23:44] <Slart> Lovalangusta: you could have MSN installed to some kind of shared drive..
[23:44] <Smegzor1> Zzeiss: I am using TVTime and have the country correct and PAL etc correct.
[23:44] <PrebenR> zsquareplusc, mkerd, snuitje: I set the Font DPI to 96, and now it looks fine. I guess the problem is that System Default is 133
[23:44] <PrebenR> thanks
[23:44] <Slart> Lovalangusta: and use wine to run it.. perhaps..
[23:44] <PrebenR> can one set this in xorg?
[23:44] <p1und3r> if('fuxxu'); .echo(omgahhh)
[23:44] <snuitje> gnutron: personally, i don't care what kernel version is running and when it was built every time i log in somewhere
[23:44] <mkerd> Lovalangusta, You can use MSN through Pidgin, or did I misunderstand your question?
[23:44] <Zzeiss> Smegzor1: Hmmm... Well, that's what I would have checked.
[23:44] <pastr1> snuitje : i am on the wubi side right now, they say' The installation files (700MB) will be downloaded and checked, after which you will be asked to reboot. Do so and select Ubuntu at the boot screen. The installation will continue for another 10-15 minutes and the machine will reboot again. This is it. Now you can select Ubuntu at the boot screen and start using it.             '
[23:44] <Slart> Lovalangusta: but i'd recommend a native client.. pidgin or something
[23:44] <Lovalangusta> no you didn't :-)
[23:45] <Smegzor1> my problem is here (more or less).. sudo modprobe bttv card=42 tuner=30 radio=1 gpiomask=0x3F audiomux=33,32,35,35,40   I need to get the card and tuner numbers right.
[23:45] <snuitje> PrebenR: it may have detected a dpi of 133 and adjusted the settings accordingly
[23:45] <gnutron> snuitje: its all the extra stuff i can do without.
[23:45] <Lovalangusta> How do I set it up in Pidgin then ?
[23:45] <PrebenR> snuitje, yes I think that is the problem
[23:45] <Zzeiss> Smegzor1: Can you switch back and forth at will between sound/no vid  and vid/no sound?
[23:45] <Lovalangusta> Do i need somekind of server info or so ?
[23:45] <Slart> Lovalangusta: accounts, manage accounts..
[23:45] <snuitje> gnutron: yeah that too... i like the suse motd, very simple one line message
[23:45] <mkerd> Lovalangusta, There's a configuration assistant, just open Pidgin in the menu (under Internet) and you'll figure it out
[23:45] <snuitje> gnutron: Have a lot of fun...
[23:45] <Slart> Lovalangusta: last I checked it had pretty reasonable defaults
[23:45] <zsquareplusc> Smegzor1: i hat a bttv card and it always worked without any parametes (autodetect) are you sure you need these?
[23:46] <PrebenR> snuitje, gdm still has big fonts though
[23:46] <Smegzor1> Zzeiss: I have tried all the 'right' numbers to no avail.  No I have not been able to get a picture since day one.
[23:46] <malibu> I have a samba share that is mounted and owned by user shared:shared.  I have the use forced in smb.conf so I don't have a problem with permissions from the outside.  But how can I write files to this filesystem from the Ubuntu side without having to do chown -R shared:shared all the time??
[23:46] <oys> apt-get upgrade is holding back 4 kernel-related packages. is this normal? and should I be doing anything about it?
[23:46] <benoka> my wireless USB card works 3rd the speed on ubuntu 8.10 than on win XP, why?
[23:46] <georgy_28> Lovalangusta, : you can use asmn too
[23:46] <Zzeiss> Smegzor1: but it started out with video?
[23:46] <snuitje> PrebenR: may be a theme thing then
[23:46] <mkerd> Lovalangusta, It won't be perfect though since msn uses a closed protocol. If you like free software (which I assume you do since you're here :) ) you should check out Jabber. It's an open protocol for instant messaging.
[23:46] <SimAtWork> benoka: perhaps you're setting it up for 11mbs instead of 54? (802.11b as opposed to 802.11g) ?
[23:46] <snuitje> PrebenR: no wait, you adjusted it in your profile
[23:46] <georgy_28> Lovalangusta, : sorry, I mean amsn
[23:46] <snuitje> PrebenR: gdm doesn't care about user settings
[23:47] <oys> it happened when I ran apt-get update &&apt-get upgrade after installing 8.10 and I'm wondering if I should be filing a bugreport or if this is normal behaviour
[23:47] <Smegzor1> zsquareplusc: I got this card specifically because it is supposed to work well. I could try removing the module stuff, but it didn't work out of the box either originally.
[23:47] <PrebenR> snuitje, exactely
[23:47] <Smegzor1> Zzeiss: yes
[23:47] <PrebenR> snuitje, but it is ok. Was just wondering if it was something in xorg one could set
[23:48] <snuitje> PrebenR: probably yes, maybe in Section "Screen"
[23:48] <calwig> exodus_ms: im reading this now im going to try wicd, see what happens
[23:48] <calwig> thanks for the help
[23:48] <Zzeiss> Smegzor1:  OK, suggest this: copy over your module config and startup and go back to the original "no setup" setup.  Verify that you get video, but no sound.
[23:48] <snuitje> PrebenR: thing is, x.org is moving more and more towards removing the configuration file alltogether and using auto-detection
[23:48] <exodus_ms> calwig, cool, no problem.... good luck
[23:48] <Smegzor1> Zzeiss: yep thats exactly what I am doing now.
[23:49] <raven_> my sound ceased working
[23:49] <raven_> please halp
[23:49] <Lovalangusta> My idea was just to start using this system permanently and for that i need to convert most funktions (like msn) se i can write with my friends, who doesn't use ubuntu ^^Some people are too afraid of challenges and that's why they are still using windows .-)
[23:49] <snuitje> try a pair of headphones
[23:49] <PrebenR> snuitje, that is true
[23:49] <Zzeiss> Smegzor1: So, video has _never_ worked?  Is that correct (I'm probably misunderstanding)
[23:49] <mouseboyx> how do you reconfigure xorg so that you can pick from  a list of video drivers, my real problem is that when i install xserver-video-intel, it does not write the driver to xorg.conf file....
[23:49] <mo> someone here familiar with the alternate install partition manager and encrypted partitions: cause every time i try to configure my encrypted partitons, i get that odd nag screen about "unsecure swap-disk found" ... but there are no sawp disk at all
[23:49] <PrebenR> snuitje, I'll leave tings like they are now. it works fine. Thanks!
[23:49] <raven_> snuitje, hey wait i might have done something stupid, echoing y into /dev/dsp and/or /dev/adsp should play a frequency i thot
[23:49] <Sierradump> Is there a command to see the display messages that occured during boot up?  I get a few errors after grub and before the ubuntu splash screen - But they happen SO FAST that I can't read them!!!  Would like to see what errors the machine is complaining about...
[23:50] <raven_> but is it possible i screwed something up
[23:50] <dreamy> anyone here uses DRI project 3d accelaration drivers ? :S
[23:50] <mouseboyx> glxgears works, but compiz does not
[23:50] <Smegzor1> Zzeiss: video worked, audio no (until now) and by working I mean, it makes the speakers click a bit.
[23:50] <snuitje> mouseboyx: that goes in Section "Device"
[23:50] <bob5434321> Hey guys, i hope it is ok to ask this here... sorry if it's not... i don't really know where else to ask :P I wish to distribute a program that i developed under the gpl license.. does this mean that i have to get a copyright first?? i'm no good at this legal stuff :P??
[23:50] <mouseboyx> i915?
[23:50] <Zzeiss> Sierradump: yes, try dmesg.
[23:50] <snuitje> raven_: dumping stuff in /dev/audio should
[23:50] <raven_> bob5434321, just release it, simple as that, with the GPL on the source
[23:50] <Slart> Sierradump: some end up in dmesg
[23:50] <drog> bob5434321, you should probably read it
[23:50] <pastr1> ok so i think this means no ubuntu for me then
[23:50] <georgy_28> ! pidgin > Lovalangusta
[23:50] <jimdb1> !usplash
[23:50] <mkerd> bob5434321, if you wrote the program you have the rights to it automatically.
[23:50] <bob5434321> raven: Thanx :D i was hoping for that XD
[23:50] <Slart> Sierradump: but I know not everything ends up there.. there might be some other trick to see the boot log..
[23:50] <Sierradump> okay will give that a shot...
 to get a copyright, you must go into the hidden temple, collect the 5 arfifacts hidden within the challenges you face, and
[23:51] <Sierradump> thx
[23:51] <mo> bob5434321, first: you allways have the copyright of your own stuff, you can't even get rid of it :)
[23:51] <mouseboyx> this is all that is in my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/m660ea37
[23:51] <Viper550> well...mo, actually you sorta "can"
[23:51] <raven_> snuitje, that doesnt work
[23:51] <bob5434321> lmao, thanx 4 the help guys XD
[23:51] <raven_> snuitje, i didnt change anything afaik
[23:51] <mkerd> Viper550, depends on where you live ;)
[23:51] <snuitje> pastr1: maybe a different release, did you try 8.04 or 8.10?
[23:51] <raven_> snuitje, i rebooted when it stopped working
[23:51] <Zzeiss> bob5434321: Yep.  Just put "Copyright yournamehere 2008 Released under the GPL" at the top and you are OK.  There is a longer form that's better, but that alone is good enough for most purposes.
[23:51] <mo> Viper550, mkerd --> exactly
[23:51] <pastr1> snuitje 8.10
[23:51] <raven_> snuitje, didnt hlp
[23:52] <forcumang> where is the default finch config file located?
[23:52] <forcumang> ~/.gntrc isn't it
[23:52] <Viper550> public domain, or just say "just say there is no copyright on any of the stuff in this package, you can do absolutely ANYTHING, I don't care"
[23:52] <snuitje> raven_: try pushing the sound card back in its pci slot if its a pci card
[23:52] <raven_> snuitje, it's a laptop
[23:52] <Viper550> hey oh north america
[23:52] <raven_> snuitje, :(
[23:52] <snuitje> raven_: kk
[23:52] <Smegzor1> brb rebooting
[23:52] <delta214> ;
[23:52] <pastr1> snuitje damn you are doing a hell of a job here
[23:52] <naut> Has anyone else had trouble with the latest .22 kernel?
[23:52] <mo> can anyone help me?
[23:52] <semtido> .22??
[23:53] <mo> someone here familiar with the alternate install partition manager and encrypted partitions: cause every time i try to configure my encrypted partitons, i get that odd nag screen about "unsecure swap-disk found" ... but there are no sawp disk at all
[23:53] <mkerd> forcumang, isn't it in .purple? like pidgin?
[23:53] <Zzeiss> mo: what's your problem?
[23:53] <semtido> mo: hwat are you having trouble with?
[23:53] <naut> 2.6.24-22-generic
[23:53] <Zzeiss> mo: hmmm... sorry.  I never got that.
[23:53] <forcumang> mkerd => i'll see
[23:53] <semtido> naut: thats not the latest
[23:53] <mo> Zzeiss, at leas an answer, yippie
[23:53] <snuitje> pastr1: by that you mean i dont help you enough or i chat too much?
[23:53] <delta214> hey i was installing ubuntu for a dual boot with xp. my battery died and i have to restart the install although it has already partitioned the drives. How do i use the already partitioned part to install into?
[23:54] <mouseboyx> can you still run glxgears without xgl or aixgl
[23:54] <pastr1> snuitje no by that i mean that you do a hell of a job
[23:54] <forcumang> mkerd => that file doesn't have configs in it, theyre xml sheets
[23:54] <pastr1> snuitje in a positive way
[23:54] <Zzeiss> And a question: does Ubuntu have a "keep N" option for upgrades?  And, if so, where?
[23:54] <LF|Irssi> I think 'What's the problem?" probably sounds better/nicer than "What's your problem" ;)
[23:54] <forcumang> folder*
[23:54] <naut> Has anyone else had trouble with the 2.6.24-21-generic kernel?
[23:54] <naut> oops
[23:54] <naut> I mean
[23:54] <semtido> lool yeah XD
[23:54] <naut> Has anyone else had trouble with the 2.6.24-22-generic kernel?
[23:54] <semtido> sorry bout that
[23:54] <FloodBot2> naut: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:54] <semtido> not my first language
[23:55] <gnutron> delta214: if i were you i'd burn a gparted disk, delete those partitions and start over
[23:55] <mkerd> forcumang, xml sheets that are used as config files
[23:55] <pastr1> snuitje all the people with their problems here...  maybe i will try it again some time soon , thanks for the help anyway
[23:55] <snuitje> pastr1: well thanks -_-'
[23:55] <mouseboyx> how do you reconfigure xorg so that you can pick from  a list of video drivers, my real problem is that when i install xserver-video-intel, it does not write the driver to xorg.conf file....  http://pastebin.com/m3351e38d
[23:55] <delta214> gnutron: cheers
[23:55] <semtido> i cant get bluetooth to work in a toshiba laptop.. simply wont turn on... any solutions??
[23:56] <snuitje> pastr1: hmm yeah, try alternatives though, besides, wubi is useful for other things as well
[23:56] <benoka> SimAtWork: where can I change that?
[23:56] <mouseboyx> semtido, is there a button to turn it on on the laptop?
[23:56] <forcumang> mkerd => that's not what i'm looking for those aren't the config of the whole program
[23:56] <leetsweden> hmm
[23:56] <drog> semtido, got the drivers installed without any conflicting drivers?
[23:56] <snuitje> pastr1: in the faq theres a link to unetbootin
[23:56] <forcumang> i'm looking for gnt application config
[23:56] <forcumang> that finch uses
[23:56] <semtido> fn-f8
[23:56] <semtido> i supose
[23:56] <semtido> didnt install any drivers
[23:56] <hmw_lfs> i have trouble getting a triple head setup working correctly: Raden9600 (dual, driver "ati") + 3dfxVoodooBanshee ("tdfx"). The Voodoo-Monitor always comes with 1024@60Hz, modelines should be correct.
[23:56] <semtido> dont know how to do that
[23:56] <mkerd> forcumang, gnt config file is in the folder you mentioned yourself.
[23:57] <pastr1> snuitje ok  i will search my way around
[23:57] <dreamy> can i help the ubuntu comunity by running a server?
[23:57] <pastr1> bye
[23:57] <forcumang> mkerd => it's not though, it doesn't exist on my install
[23:57] <forcumang> :/
[23:57] <Zzeiss> How do I tell ubuntu updater to NOT delete old versions of software?
[23:57] <snuitje> pastr1: if you can try to debug things btw, you can file a bug report, but you'd have to provide some details otherwise it'll be marked incomplete or invalid
[23:57] <leetsweden> .
[23:57] <georgy_28> semtido, : try hciconfig in a console, to see if your bluetooth is on
[23:57] <mkerd> forcumang, sounds very odd, maybe it's not created until you start the program or something?
[23:57] <Sierradump> When I type DMESG it outputs so much text I can't get to the beginning?  Is there a "DMESG /(option)" I can try???????
[23:57] <forcumang> i've started it, that's the thing
[23:58] <naut> I get a kernel panic when I try to boot off 2.6.24-22-generic. I've had to roll back to 2.6.24-21-generic
[23:58] <forcumang> i think it's actually located somewhere else, not in ~/.gntrc like the manual suggests
[23:58] <semtido> i tiped that on the console and nothing appeared:S
[23:58] <Zzeiss> Sierradump: Try "dmesg | less"
[23:58] <mkerd> forcumang, and you've chosen to see hidden files?
[23:58] <forcumang> mkerd: of course.
[23:58] <Lokian> anyone try ubuntu with 3gb ram in Compaq Presario C714nr? I get load issues
[23:58] <SimAtWork> Sierradump: you need to learn about | and less... try dmesg | less
[23:58] <DigBig> where do i go for monodevelop info ?
[23:58] <SimAtWork> Sierradump: also try dmesg | tail and dmesg | head
[23:58] <forcumang> mkerd => i just created .gntrc seeing that .gntrc was not there, but it still didn't get used by finch
[23:59] <SimAtWork> Sierradump: also try dmesg | grep eth0 -i
[23:59] <forcumang> i had to use --config=~/.gntrc to use it
[23:59] <forcumang> so it's located somewhere else
[23:59] <Marfi> hello everyone...working on a dell latitude D600 that has a broadcom wireless. enabled it with restricted driver manager, but it didn't come up. any ideas?
[23:59]  * DigBig needs monodevelop support ... howto use crypt function ...
[23:59] <raven_> my sound magically stopped working and i am lost in fail-land
[23:59] <snuitje> Zzeiss: what's the matter?
[23:59] <mkerd> forcumang, try asking in the pidgin channel, I'm sure someone there knows more
[23:59] <snuitje> Zzeiss: apt tries to upgrade and keep the system in a consistent state
[23:59] <forcumang> mkerd => kk
[23:59] <snuitje> Zzeiss: it only removes packages to resolve conflicts
[23:59] <forcumang> thanks for effort