[00:00] <aes52> Hi does anyone have CTRL-ALT-PLUS working to change resolution?
[00:00] <alpha> yeah
[00:00] <alpha> or ctrl+alt+moin
[00:01] <aes52> do you use nvidia?
[00:01] <aes52> mine doesn't seem to work
[00:01] <alpha> yeah
[00:01] <aes52> but I have nvidia-autoselect only in xorg.conf
[00:01] <alpha> i use nvidia but for change resolution
[00:01] <aes52> for your monitor
[00:01] <aes52> do you have Modes "nvidia-auto-select" in xorg.conf
[00:02] <alpha> sory i use Gnome
[00:02] <alpha> so you can seen the NVIDIA X server setting
[00:02] <alpha> in configuration pannel
[00:03] <aes52> if you do cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:03] <aes52> wait
[00:03] <alpha> and go in the resolution change if you want
[00:03] <aes52> $cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Modes
[00:03] <aes52> what comes up ?
[00:03] <alpha> save the xorg.config in the menu of nvidia x serv setting
[00:03] <alpha> and restar xeserv
[00:06] <faik> dwidmann: now the screen has zoom. i can ry-un the nvidia x server settings
[00:07] <aes52> how do you get CTRL-ALT-PLUS and CTRL-ALT-MINUS zoom to work in 8.10 with NVIDIA in KDE
[00:08] <dwidmann> faik: it has zoom?
[00:09] <faik> yes
[00:10] <ahmos> hi how i can rename a partition on kubuntu intrepid ibex
[00:11] <dwidmann> faik:  is this good, or bad?
[00:11] <faik> bad
[00:14] <faik> anyway i check this tomorrow im going to bed good night to all and especially to dwidmann
[00:15] <dwidmann> night faik, and good luck
[00:15] <faik> good night dwidmann see you later thanks a lot for your help
[00:15] <faik> bye
[00:17] <myth> is anyone in here?
[00:31] <mister-tea> my sound works fine with everything except mpegs and wmv files, I checked in alsa and found video muted, I unmuted but still no sound, any ideas?
[00:32] <maxbaldwin> wmv is windows, I think.
[00:32] <mister-tea> I'm playing them with totem
[00:33] <mister-tea> I loaded the codecs to allow them to play but no sound though
[00:36] <administrator> #ubuntu.it
[00:37] <mister-tea> when I test movie playback sounds in my sounds settings I get this error: audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=music: Could not open audio device for playback.
[00:45] <mister-tea> never mind I fixed it
[00:45] <oracle_> no medium found no volume groups found?
[00:46] <administrator_> #ubuntu.it
[00:49] <oracle_> yes
[00:56] <mister-tea> oracle_: I found the problem and fixed it
[00:57] <mister-tea> just tested it and works fine
[01:02] <kavok3> I'm trying to activate the Nvidia 177 driver via the Hardware Drivers utility, when I click activate I get maybe a second of dialog about downloading or something but nothing happens after that. My laptop is stuck in 800x600.
[01:03] <mister-tea> !Nvidia
[01:04] <kavok3> There is a built in tool for activiting the drivers, it does not work. !NotBeingHelpful
[01:04] <mister-tea> forgive me for trying
[01:05] <kavok3> The link you provide has no section for 8.10 Nvidia Kubuntu and the old section tells me to use the tool which I am attempting to use and does not work.
[01:05] <oracle_> think you
[01:06] <BluesKaj> kavok3, have you tried installing nvidia-glx-177 using adept ?
[01:06] <kavok3> I have not, would I have to?
[01:06] <BluesKaj> I think that;s the driver you need
[01:07] <kavok3> Searching for"nvidia" in Adept brings up the Hardware Drivers tool, which says "Installed" ?
[01:09] <BluesKaj> kavok3, I recommend that you try the Synaptic package manager for driver installation in this case .
[01:10] <kavok3> After doing a fetch lists or whatever it seems to be showing up after a search now.
[01:10] <BluesKaj> be specific . nvidia-glx-177
[01:11] <kavok3> Specific didn't work earlier either. This is a fresh install. I assumed that it would fetch the most recently list on the first boot up
[01:11] <BluesKaj> did you install synaptic ?
[01:12] <kavok3> No I just did a fetch list on Adept, trying to install 177 now
[01:12] <BluesKaj> synaptic is better than adept in some ways IMO , especially  with dependencies
[01:13] <mister-tea> Kohlrabi:
[01:13] <mister-tea> sorry
[01:14] <kavok3> Well I got a fatal error about kmix crashing
[01:14] <mister-tea> kavok3:  If that doesn't work I found this for intrepid http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/nvidia-177-kernel-source
[01:15] <kavok3> Is Adept what Im supposed to use to handle updates? How do I check for updates?
[01:16] <BluesKaj> kavok3, in the terminal type or copy and paste , sudo apt-get update
[01:16] <ncfi1013> what is the key combination that is for killing apps that are open
[01:16] <kavok3> I made a pact with myself to never use a console on an ubuntu variant unless it was a last resort :] If I want to use the console ill get gentoo
[01:17] <ncfi1013> i have an app that is open that won't close
[01:18] <kavok3> Alright I seem to have the graphics driver working. Now for the wireless
[01:19] <BluesKaj> well, that's your mistaken choice IMO , it's also a pact that really doesn't make much difference to anyone here ...we all use the shell sometimes due it's power and ease of use .
[01:21] <kavok3> I've figured out how to use Adept for updates though, thanks.
[01:23] <casefinanzait> ciao
[01:24] <casefinanzait> parlate italiano?
[01:24] <mister-tea> !it
[01:24] <devin> need alil help i have a windows drive under sdb1 but im unable to boot into it under grub, here is a a pastebin of my menus.lst http://pastebin.com/m609a9152
[01:24] <casefinanzait> ok thanks
[02:04] <MrInternet> I keep getting warnings about CPU temperature, is there any way to monitor it?
[02:06] <long> 有人吗？
[02:15] <kevin__> ok ill try another, when i turn my computer on the only working mode is low graphics mode and even then only a KDE session will work, gnome sessions have scrambled graphics
[02:15] <kevin__> ok thats not another for in here sorry
[02:28] <kalinda_> hey, does anyone know if there will be any KDE 4.2 beta packages?
[02:31] <jabrroa> sup
[02:31] <jabrroa> happy thanksgiving!!
[02:31] <JontheEchidna> kalinda_: there will be, but first we need to finish the ones for Jaunty. Then we can work on backporting to Intrepid
[02:32] <DivineSpectrum> eat the tack-in
[02:33] <DivineSpectrum> happy thanksgivin to everyone from italy
[02:34] <zyx> hey, hey!
[02:34] <DivineSpectrum> it's possible to compile kdenlive 0.7 on kubuntu 8.10?
[02:34] <ubuntu_> como puedo cambiar el diseño del escritorio
[02:35] <DivineSpectrum> ubuntu_: viva zapatero
[02:44] <fer> hello anyone can tell me what channel is for new kubuntu users (kde intrepid)
[02:46] <JontheEchidna> fer: This channel ;-)
[02:46] <JontheEchidna> Ask away, and if anybody is around who knows the answer to your question they will most likely answer
[02:47] <fer> ok thanks
[02:47] <kalinda_> JontheEchidnaL Ah, thanks. I understand. I just wanted to know what was up with that
[02:48] <fer> i got some problems with my kde since i upgraded to 8.10
[02:48] <fer> first of all how can I enable my desktop again
[02:48] <JontheEchidna> enable your desktop?
[02:48] <fer> mmm
[02:48] <JontheEchidna> You mean the thingy that shows the folders on your desktop?
[02:49] <fer> in the last version i have all my icons in desktop, now i can't
[02:49] <JontheEchidna> Click the icon in the upper right hand corner of the screen, select add widgets
[02:49] <JontheEchidna> add a folderview widget from that dialog
[02:49] <JontheEchidna> Hover over the folderview and select the wrench which will bring up the folderview config
[02:50] <JontheEchidna> From tehre you can set it to display the contents of your ~/Desktop folder
[02:51] <fer> done!! ty
[02:53] <zyx> ooo...it's buggy
[02:54] <pan2342> which one would u prefer intel core duo or amd turion x2?
[02:55] <zyx> oops
[02:56] <mister-tea> which are you sending me lol
[02:56] <zyx> anyone know how to activate the proprietary nvida drivers?
[02:56] <zyx> er
[02:57] <zyx> kubuntu 8.10 on AMD64
[02:57] <mister-tea> http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/nvidia-177-kernel-source
[02:58] <mister-tea> you didn't say witch nvidia
[02:58] <fer> ok next question, if you check this picture http://www.nemgf.com/kubuntudesktop.jpg , you can see inside the panel some icons (firefox, amarok, thunderbird), that was in 8.04 in 8.10 i haven't. I want those icons back.
[02:58] <zyx> no, I didn't
[02:59] <zyx> good point
[02:59] <mister-tea> thats the link for the 177
[02:59] <zyx> look, I'm clueless
[03:00] <zyx> just installed for shits and giggles
[03:00] <mister-tea> !ohmy
[03:00] <JontheEchidna> fer: right-click the icons in the KMenu and select "add to panel"
[03:00] <zyx> okay. Just for giggles
[03:00] <JontheEchidna> zyx: Open up KMenu -> System -> Restricted Drivers manager
[03:00] <mister-tea> which card do you have
[03:01] <zyx> dunno
[03:01] <zyx> and the option I see is "system settings"
[03:01] <zyx> no obvious 'restricted drivers manager'
[03:03] <tkstka> hmm it seems I dont have 8.10 I have 8.04 how do I upgrade?
[03:03] <JontheEchidna> zyx: in the applications tab there should be a system submenu
[03:03] <mister-tea> !upgrade
[03:03] <JontheEchidna> tkstka: We are closing this bug report because it lacks the information we need to investigate the problem, as described in the previous comments. Please reopen it if you can give us the missing information, and don't hesitate to submit bug reports in the future. To reopen the bug report you can click on the current status, under the Status column, and change the Status back to "New". Thanks again!
[03:03] <JontheEchidna> oops
[03:03] <zyx> okay, found it
[03:03] <fer> I tried b4, just open the program, right click doesn't work
[03:03] <JontheEchidna> stupid klipper:
[03:03] <JontheEchidna> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu
[03:04] <JontheEchidna> tkstka: ^
[03:04] <zyx> when I click "activate," nothing happens
[03:04] <JontheEchidna> weird
[03:04] <zyx> yeah
[03:05] <zdz> Who can help me? My "Knetworkmanager" set static-ip but it can't work!
[03:06]  * mister-tea wonders what is up with the three letter nicks
[03:06] <zdz> And my adept manager's font-size is very large,but else anything is ok
[03:07] <zyx> who's got time for more than three, mister-tea?
[03:07] <zyx> other than you and JontheEchidna
[03:07] <mister-tea> zyx: open konsole and type lspci that should list your card
[03:07] <JontheEchidna> heh
[03:07] <mister-tea> we use auto complete so no nick is too long
[03:08] <zyx> Sorry, the package "udev 124-9" failed to install or upgrade.
[03:08] <zyx> a well-mannered error message
[03:09] <zyx> lemme reboot and see
[03:10]  * mister-tea oh man windows users
[03:10] <fer> oh, yesterday i wanted change some keyboards shortcuts, i went to System Settings/General/Computer Administration/Keyboard & Mouse then click Keyboard Shortcuts and it freezes
[03:12] <zdz> it's better than i,my System Settings can't open now,hehe
[03:12] <fer> Warning - KWin: Window with title "Keyboard & Mouse" - System Settings is not responding. This window belong to application systemsettings
[03:13] <zyx> hmm.
[03:14] <zyx> dunno if it worked
[03:14] <zyx> but I think I might have 24-bit color now
[03:14] <zdz> my firefox always can't open ,"firefox already run" why?
[03:15] <Dr_willis_> firefox has some sort of 'lock' file in the .mozilla directroy i recall.. only oneinstance is allowed to run at a time
[03:15] <Dr_willis_> some times if it crashes that lock file dosent get removed
[03:15] <zyx> ohh, pretty
[03:16]  * zyx just dragged a window for the first time
[03:16] <Dr_willis_> Not srue why firefox is so specual it needs that sort of a lock
[03:16] <zdz> but i always happen this except new reboot
[03:17] <tomus> Can we trust the kubuntu-8.10-dvd-amd64.iso available via bitTorrent?
[03:17] <tkstka> doesnt work.. I cant upgrade to 8.10
[03:17] <tkstka> :C
[03:17]  * mister-tea thinks Dr_willis_ help is great .... spelling  um so so
[03:18] <tkstka> kdesudo "abept_manager --dist-upgrade" doesnt work
[03:19] <JontheEchidna> tkstka: abept?
[03:20] <tomus> I need a dvd iso, because I don't have any CDs
[03:20] <JontheEchidna> Should be: kdesudo "adept_manager --dist-upgrade"
[03:21] <tkstka> JontheEchidna: ya
[03:21] <tkstka> it worked
[03:21] <tkstka> lol
[03:21] <JontheEchidna> ;-)
[03:21] <tkstka> :)
[03:22] <billyd> Hello :-)
[03:25] <tkstka> JontheEchidna:  could you help with the next step.. It says there should be some upgrade button but I dont seem to find it anywhere :D
[03:26] <JontheEchidna> tkstka: make sure your install is fully up-to-date, the upgrade button won't appear otherwise
[03:26] <tkstka> hmm
[03:27] <tkstka> how do I know that?
[03:27] <tomus> I see a reference to a dvd on amazon, does anyone know the md5?
[03:29] <Dr_willis_> Huh?
[03:29] <tomus> got it, it's here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/intrepid/release/MD5SUMS
[03:29] <Dr_willis_> All the iso's are avail as torrents
[03:29] <tomus> thank you tomus
[03:29] <zdz> why my some system application font-size is so big?
[03:39] <tomus> from what I'm reading on kubuntu.org, it looks like 8.10 doesn't have KDE 3.5 anymore... and last I looked KDE 4.1 was still alpha quality, what's going on here?
[03:41] <Toph> i'm running Kubuntu 8.10 with KDE 4.x   where do I find the Run Command?
[03:42] <Toph> in previous KDE's it was always under the K menu,, i don't see it in KDE 4
[03:43] <billyd> If KDE 4.2 doesn't cure a lot of problems an 9.04 isn't rumored to, I may have to go back to the drafting table.  Obviously 8.10 with Firefox isn't ready for prime time - to many circulocutions
[03:44] <Toph> my Firefox showed up as 'Web Browser' under my K menu
[03:47] <JontheEchidna> Toph: Alt + F2, or you can right-click on the desktop and select run command from there
[03:47] <harolddong> I know a lot of people still have problems with 4.1 but it works pretty great for me since I updated to intrepid
[03:48] <JontheEchidna> Yeah, I would in no way call KDE 4.1 alpha either
[03:48] <Toph> JontheEchidna: ok, thanks,, i thought there may be another method
[03:49] <billyd> I added another pdf viewer (xpdf?) and it comes up as default pdf viewer.  One of the joys of 8.04 is that I can no longer print both side of a sheet of paper - evidently No choise to use odd and even pages in advancement
[03:49] <Toph> JontheEchidna: in the Run Command box, does one use kdesu, or will Sudo work?
[03:49] <JontheEchidna> kdesudo
[03:50] <billyd> evidently Ocular is default viewer if no other viewer is installed
[03:52] <Toph> JontheEchidna: ok,, thanks
[03:52] <tomus> Toph: I don't know why they're trying to push 4.1 on us, it still has major issues.  The panel is unstable, and almost impossible to customize, just for starters... I can only conclude that they're hoping to kill KDE and get everyone to switch to gnome out of frustration.
[03:53] <Toph> tomus: i'm just messing with it to see if i can adjust to it,,, not sure if i will endure
[03:54] <harolddong> I wouldnt call the panel being not ver customizable a "major issue though"
[03:54] <harolddong> the system tray rendering is a little off
[03:54] <tomus> Toph: best of luck.  not sure if any users will be left by the time 4.x is usable
[03:54] <harolddong> and it needs more options but it runs really well now
[03:55] <billyd> Lots crap doesn't work.  You got majot problems getting Firefox to work.  You shouldn't ave to diddle all sorts of config files and even them you got problems. I can even print mail from hotmail
[03:55] <billyd> And remaning "devices" doesn't help
[03:55] <zdz> which is the network-manager-tool better?
[03:55] <tomus> harolddong: I spent hours trying to get the panel on the side of the window, and when I got it all in place it crashed on me.... then popped back up on the bottom again
[03:55] <harolddong> I personally havent had to diddle with anything is my point
[03:55] <billyd> What was eth0 is npow eth1
[03:56] <billyd> Still can't fiind a lot of stuff
[03:56] <tomus> harolddong: if they haven't even got something as basic and fundamental as a usable panel, why do they think it's ready?
[03:56] <harolddong> well I dont know what to tell you
[03:57] <harolddong> my experience has been pretty smooth
[03:57] <randy> hows all
[03:57] <harolddong> now having said that, I am really looking forward to 4.2 obviously because the nightlies are pretty enticing
[03:58] <billyd> Just hope Strigi is gone - can't understand what it did other than gobble up file space.
[03:58] <harolddong> I havent really had a lot of crashes on 4.1
[03:58] <tomus> harolddong: I guess it might be okay if you don't care how it's set-up and don't breath on it.
[03:58] <harolddong> but then again I have been trying to move the panel change it because they have said over and over that it still needs work
[03:59] <harolddong> I personalize my desktop just like you I just havent had the same experince
[04:00] <harolddong> I mean why, when they have said that the panel is specifically a place needs work, would someone get pissed when it crashes when they try and mkae it jump through hoops?
[04:01] <harolddong> I'm not saying play with your settings, I'm saying you should expect crashes when you mess with something that is a known weak spot
[04:02]  * JontheEchidna personally hasn't had crashes even if he moves the panel around
[04:02] <harolddong> yeah and again I really havent had any major crashes with 4.1 either
[04:02] <harolddong> but I had tons with every previous build
[04:03] <harolddong> so I'd say 4.1 is pretty damn smooth from my perspective
[04:03] <JontheEchidna> I think I've had it crash twice since 4.1.0 period
[04:04] <billyd> If 9.04 isn't a lot better. I got SUSE 10.3 and 11.0 32 bits CD's for old Dell 340
[04:05] <billyd> I've had problems with 8.10 than anythinf since I went to Kubuntu at 6.10
[04:06] <tomus> I get the impression that the KDE guys want to go it alone on everything.  No Firefox integration, they've got their own browser (which is a joke), no compiz integration, they've got their own composting manager (which is a joke).  I think this is why all the distros are gnome based first, with KDE as a bastard stepchild...  now they're pushing this half-baked junk on us.  It's like they don't want any users, just want to play with cool stuff without any press
[04:08] <tomus> My money says kubuntu brings back 3.5 in the next version
[04:08] <harolddong> a case could be made for firefox but compiz integration is silly
[04:08] <tomus> harolddong: how so?
[04:08] <harolddong> I think the way they want to do compositing in kde 4 is a much better idea
[04:09] <maxbaldwin> ok... so my graphics aren't working the way they should, but they were before the official release. ATI accelerated graphics card
[04:09] <maxbaldwin> I'm trying to play bzflag, teeworlds, etc.
[04:09] <billyd> Firefox has too many people to be ignored and as you say Konqueror is a joke
[04:10] <harolddong> because you bring compiz you're using a totally seperate thing for somehting that should be done by the window manager
[04:10] <billyd> Trying to push out Koffice when most people are using Open Office and will continue to do is is wasteful of resources
[04:10] <harolddong> I've had more problems trying to get compiz to work right than with anythingelse in linux
[04:11] <billyd> I acutally switched maybeck using RedHat when I couldn't get Gnome dialer to work.  I can understand Kppp
[04:13] <billyd> And I left FC when a Monarch tech put the badmouth on it.  I was having lots of problemd and guy said anything was better than FC 4
[04:13] <billyd> Ni Ni
[04:13] <tomus> harolddong: that's true it compiz can be a problem, but it's gotten better.... and much of the problem is only on KDE.  So now we've got to wait for their composing manager to mature when compiz is already here.
[04:13] <faileas> tomus: er... actually gnome has its own browser too. no one uses it either
[04:14] <JontheEchidna> The thing is that Firefox takes steps to integrate with Gnome
[04:14] <harolddong> what's th kde compositing manager really missing at this point?
[04:14] <harolddong> besides cube ot some other crazy effects
[04:14] <tomus> faileas: there's no problem with doing your own browser, but ignoring firefox is stupid
[04:15] <harolddong> it works, that's pretty much the first step
[04:15] <faileas> tomus: er. my firefox looks well integrated with kde. same look and feel, and i can set it as the default for opening files... come to think of it.
[04:16] <harolddong> yeah I dunno what exactly you want as far as firefox integration, aside from them making it the default, which wont happen
[04:16] <joe_> how can i install eDonkey???
[04:17] <harolddong> it works fine and looks like all my other kde apps, the only problem with firefox is that its still a hige memeory hog
[04:17] <joe_> i did try throug the terminal and it didn't let me
[04:17] <harolddong> I sorta wish they would just make konqueror better
[04:18] <tomus> harolddong: konquerror might get better, as crome uses the same html engine
[04:19] <joe_> can someone tell me how can i install eDonkey???
[04:19] <genii-around> joe_: Try amule
[04:19] <tomus> harolddong: but their still /way/ behind on all the little addons that make Firefox rock
[04:19] <joe_> i wanna get eDonkey
[04:20] <tomus> s/their/they're/
[04:20] <harolddong> yeah that's true
[04:20] <genii-around> joe_: "i want to get edonky" is like "i want to get html"
[04:20] <harolddong> konqueror is underpowered as a web browser but firefox is a hog
[04:20] <joe_> can someone tell me how can i install eDonkey???
[04:20] <tomus> yeah, firefox is slow
[04:22] <genii-around> joe_: Also, the eDonkey network no longer exists
[04:22] <joe_> yeah rite
[04:22] <joe_> lol
[04:22] <joe_> that's a really big laugh
[04:22] <joe_> lol
[04:23] <harolddong> get amule
[04:23] <joe_> ok fine, i'm am gonna get amule but NOT cuz u told me to but cuz i like it more than eDonkey
[04:24] <joe_> :-P
[04:24] <joe_> ^_^
[04:24] <tomus> I don't know what to do at this point.  I've burned the 8.10 dvd, but w/out kde3.5, if I install it, my wife is going to be pissed.... I don't think 4.x is worth taking the heat for.
[04:25] <tomus> can 3.5 be installed on 8.10, ex post facto?
[04:26] <genii-around> tomus: There had been an individual effort on this part, but they were asked by the kubuntu developers to remove it
[04:27] <tomus> what?
[04:27] <genii-around> tomus: So the short answer is no
[04:27] <genii-around> tomus: There was a fellow at http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/ providing kde3 debs for 8.10, but no longer
[04:29] <tomus> genii-around: I just watched "Letters from Iwo Jima," it seems that the kubuntu developers are blowing themselves up, just like the Japanese soldiers did.
[04:30] <harolddong> you know you can have more than one environment installed tomus
[04:30] <genii-around> tomus: Well, the kde project itself has basically now abandoned kde3 altogether. So it is inevitable that kubuntu must also move in this direction
[04:32] <genii-around> tomus: If you are interested in the entire saga of this kde3/8.10 so far. read the complete thread from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963695 up to the end
[04:32] <tomus> genii-around: but 4.x is clearly not ready, and users don't want it... if they want us to change, they need to make a usable version of 4.x first
[04:32] <harolddong> they need to hold a public funeral for kde3 so that everybody finally get the point
[04:32] <harolddong> kde3 I spit on your grave
[04:34] <tomus> harolddong: this is stupid, people aren't changing because 4.x is junk... and if they keep pushing junk, they won't have any users left
[04:34] <joe_> how do i UNINSTALL amule???
[04:34] <tomus> id est, it's spit on the grave of KDE
[04:34] <joe_> cuz it's NOT work'n for me so i wanna unintall it???
[04:34] <rafael> Windows rules
[04:35] <rafael> linux sux
[04:35] <sigfrido> not quite true
[04:35] <bazhang> rafael, wrong channel
[04:35] <bazhang> rafael, try ##windows
[04:35] <sigfrido> i feel free in linux
[04:35] <sigfrido> i can do what i need, not in windows
[04:35] <harolddong> well how did you install it?
[04:35] <genii-around> rafael: Feel free to your opinion. Do you currently have some Kubuntu issue which needs resolving?
[04:36] <joe_> i have amule installed in linux and i don't like it cuz it wont let me connect so i wanna uninstall it???
[04:36] <genii-around> joe_: Perhaps something like: sudo apt-get remove amule                 ...?
[04:36] <bazhang> joe_, did you install via package manager or 3rd party tar.gz
[04:37] <harolddong> you just need to update the sources in amule.  that's not what its called but it polls for nodes
[04:37] <joe_> nope from adpet manager is where i did install amule from
[04:38] <harolddong> I'm tlaking in amule the first time you start it up you need to go to the server tab and download a list of servers
[04:38] <joe_> i did that i also did click onto connect and then i just disconnected me for no reason what so ever
[04:39] <harolddong> you might need to configure your ports for amule
[04:39] <sigfrido> to anyone: i try to allocate some memory in a C program, but kubuntu in 64 bit tells me that i'm tryin to allocate wild numbers
[04:39] <joe_> i don't know how to do that, srry
[04:40] <sigfrido> say 64000 Gb instead of 1000 bytes, any idea?
[04:40] <harolddong> well you should learn how to do it because a lot of filesharing need to have it done
[04:40] <loganWHD> all of a sudden my sound doesnt work an di have like 4 of my sound card in the sound settings... any idea how i can remove them and refresh my drivers to work again?
[04:40] <harolddong> *a lot of fileharing apps
[04:41] <joe_> srry i'm still a noobie when it come's to linux and i have been useing linux for about 5 to 6 month's and i still don't know anything about linux besides little thing's
[04:41] <joe_> yeah i know it's said so kill me for it
[04:42] <harolddong> well configuring ports isnt really a linux specific issue
[04:43] <joe_> ok then how can i get amule to work then???
[04:45] <genii-around> joe_: http://www.amule.org/wiki/index.php/Firewall
[04:45] <genii-around> Hmm. So impatient
[04:47] <loganWHD> all of a sudden my sound doesnt work an di have like 4 of my sound card in the sound settings... any idea how i can remove them and refresh my drivers to work again?
[04:51] <tomus> how do we contact the developers?
[04:52] <harolddong> they dont want to talk to you
[04:52] <harolddong> you need to call bill gates
[04:54] <DaSkreech> BlessedBeef!!
[05:00] <DaSkreech> hi tomus
[05:07] <tomus> DaSkreech: hi
[05:08] <DaSkreech> holycow: :-D
[05:09] <DaSkreech> tomus: Which developers?
[05:11] <tomus> DaSkreech: the ones that want to kill off kubuntu
[05:11] <DaSkreech> tomus: Doesn't sound like development at all
[05:12] <tomus> DaSkreech: that's my point exactly
[05:17] <tomus> DaSkreech: I tried using 4.1, and it's not ready.  By pushing alpha junk, 8.10 will kill off kubuntu.
[05:19] <tomus> DaSkreech: they say they can't do 3.5, and 4.x, but they've already been doing both
[05:19] <harolddong> why do you keep saying its alpha
[05:19] <harolddong> you're such a drama queen
[05:20] <tomus> DaSkreech: what's more, if they're really no more 3.5 updates, then it should be very easy to maintain
[05:20] <genii-around> tomus: So stay on 8.04 with 3.5 until they have it sorted out. 8.10 is an intermediate release anyhow
[05:22] <tomus> harolddong: I say that because that's my experience.  Anyway, much drama could have been prevented by waiting a little longer to pull the plug.  4.2 is just around the corner, and may work much better
[05:23] <harolddong> yes and at this point I dont see why you're throwing such a hissy fit because you can't you can't tie the panel in a knot without it crashing
[05:23] <relisys> is there a program in ubuntu   to setup a xorg.config?
[05:23] <harolddong> 4.2 IS right around the corner
[05:23] <harolddong> so relax
[05:24] <DaSkreech> tomus: I don't know why you think that not working with KDE4 would suddenly make packaging and delivering 4.2 magically better
[05:25] <DaSkreech> tomus: Regardless if you would like to help with KDE 3.5 please step in There is a PPA waiting for you
[05:25] <relisys> Guys is there a utility that i can use ton configure  xorg.conf?
[05:25] <relisys> automated?
[05:25] <DaSkreech> As you say it's more well known and less changes so it should be a much easier way for your to assist than with KDE4
[05:25] <DaSkreech> relisys: Safe mde has a Xfixoption
[05:26] <relisys> i dont kneed to fix it
[05:26] <relisys> i just need to properly set refresh reate
[05:26] <relisys> cause i get 53 refresh rate
[05:29] <DaSkreech> relisys: Oh Um.. not sure
[05:30] <harolddong> are you using an nvidia driver?
[05:32] <DaSkreech> PLus it's likely that people will still be saying that 4.2 is alpha junk
[05:33] <harolddong> kde3 is dead
[05:33] <relisys> harolddong i ah using an nvidia driver but when i use their configure utility  it does not seem to work  i feel it on my eye the refresh is bad
[05:33] <harolddong> I for one welcome our kde4 overlords
[05:34] <relisys> and wheni go to gnome resolution it still shows 53hz
[05:35] <DaSkreech> harolddong: Not really
[05:37] <harolddong> relisys: well are you sure you're using the right version of the driver?  btw you know this is the kde channel right?
[05:37] <harolddong> *kubutu
[05:38] <relisys> oh
[05:38] <relisys> ok
[05:38] <tomus> DaSkreech: There was a project to make 3.5 work on 8.10, and the kubuntu developers asked it to be taken down.  As for 4.2, I haven't seen it yet, so I don't know if it'll be good or not.
[05:39] <harolddong> I wanna have kde4's babies
[05:39] <DaSkreech> tomus: The project was very badly packaged. They have no objections to KDE 3 being on 8.10 but have some respect for the work they are doing
[05:39] <loganWHD> i get this weird error that XINE COULD NOT INTIALIZE ANY AUDIO DRIVERS
[05:39] <loganWHD> sound did work the other day
[05:39] <loganWHD> now... nada
[05:40] <loganWHD> anyone have any ideas i can try to get it back please?
[05:40] <DaSkreech> As I said if you are interested in KDE3 in 8.10 then there is a repository waiting for somone to package KDE3
[05:40] <genii-around> tomus: The tail end of the forum thread I pointed you to shows that the user responsible for the project is now working on a ppa for 3.5 on 8.10 so that it works properly
[05:40] <rmitchell> loganWHD: what app is this error in?
[05:40]  * mr---t- thought this was a help channel not the complainer channel
[05:40] <genii-around> tomus: However it is not yet production ready
[05:40] <loganWHD> well i tried amarok
[05:40] <loganWHD> and then i tried kaffine
[05:40] <loganWHD> same results
[05:41] <DaSkreech> mr---t-: Sometimes they are the same
[05:41] <harolddong> I love kde4 because it always wants to cuddle afterwards
[05:41] <rmitchell> loganWHD: have you been using flash lately? Sometimes flash will kill my audio.
[05:42] <mr---t-> DaSkreech: seems so
[05:42] <loganWHD> yes i did install the flash drivers for mozilla
[05:42] <loganWHD> so what can i do to fix it?
[05:42] <rmitchell> loganWHD, open up a system monitor, and see if the task npviewer.bin is in there
[05:42] <genii-around> relisys: If you are on Kubuntu, the program which you are asking about in #ubuntu channel is kxgenerator. But this is for KDE and not Gnome (which is for Ubuntu and not Kubuntu)
[05:43] <loganWHD> in system activity monitor i dont see it
[05:43] <rmitchell> loganWHD, did you try a logout or a reboot/
[05:44] <genii-around> Gah, reboots
[05:44] <loganWHD> rmitchell: yes i have a few times
[05:44] <loganWHD> nothing
[05:44] <loganWHD> still no go
[05:45] <harolddong> open up the process viewer and see if something else is open that's causing a conflict
[05:45] <loganWHD> how would i know?
[05:45] <rmitchell> loganWHD, sorry.. i haven't had to play with audio stuff in a long time
[05:46] <loganWHD> hrm
[05:46] <loganWHD> thanks anyways
[05:46] <harolddong> well if your if you see a browser or media player listed in the process viewer and none are open that woudl be a start
[05:46] <loganWHD> everyday i am on 8.10 a new problem exists
[05:47] <loganWHD> harolddong: nothing like that
[05:47] <rmitchell> loganWHD: did you install any updates or new apps that could have screwed up something/
[05:47] <loganWHD> besides the flash thing in FF no
[05:48] <Deiz> Huh. Any of you have issues with KDE4 not saving panel layouts?
[05:48] <Deiz> Every time I restart X, the task list in the bottom panel will be gone.
[05:48] <loganWHD> Deiz it did it to me 2-3 times
[05:49] <loganWHD> i reset it each tme then it just started staying on its own
[05:49] <jussi01> Deiz: same as loganWHD for me
[05:49] <Deiz> I've reset it.. twice.
[05:49] <loganWHD> i had to do it like 3 times i think
[05:50] <loganWHD> maybe more
[05:50] <loganWHD> so no other ideas on teh sound issues?
[05:51] <Deiz> IMO, Linux audio is hell.
[05:51] <genii-around> I blame pulseaudio
[05:52] <Deiz> I get that Xine error when the playback device is busy.
[05:53] <Deiz> At some point on Gentoo I had ALSA + PulseAudio, but PulseAudio was only functional for Amarok.
[05:53] <Deiz> If, say, Flash was hogging ALSA, I'd get the Xine error in Amarok.
[05:56] <KlrSp1> ﻿anyone a hibernate master? i can get it to hibernate, but not resume
[05:57] <harolddong> One time kde4  said to me "Ah, but the years when you have only seen one pair of footprints, my dear son - that's when I was carrying you."
[06:02] <genii-around> harolddong: You're such a suck-up ;)
[06:02] <Deiz> Nifty.
[06:02] <Deiz> Fresh install of 8.10 on my laptop, and I have the same Xine issue.
[06:28] <zeltak> hi
[06:30] <zeltak> anyone know if there will be an option in kubuntu to try kde 4.2 beta (i mean through apt-get)
[06:32] <aristide> hiBureau 1
[06:32] <aristide> han
[06:33] <eagles0513875> does anyone know how i can authenticate against a radius server
[06:36] <snakeface> can i install plasma-like weather, time, system settings applets on my desktop in kde 3.5?
[06:38] <szal> guess you don't need a time applet because KDE 3.5 has a clock ;)
[06:39] <szal> other than that, it should be possible..  will install some KDE4 libs then and probably be a bit slow, at least that's what I observe here w/ KDE4 apps in KDE 3.5
[06:40] <szal> if you want a similar thing the 'native' KDE3 way, there is Superkaramba..  but don't ask me for details, I never figured it out ;)
[06:40] <eagles0513875> !superkaramba
[06:40] <dwidmann> Wow, that wasn't pleasant ... it went to screensaver and never came back :(
[06:42] <birnisson> snakeface: for your info, trying to install liquid-weather in plasma is quite painful :)
[06:42] <noaXess> dwidmann: hey.. still online?
[06:42] <noaXess> wow :)
[06:42] <dwidmann> noaXess: I wasn't for the last 6 hours, but I am now
[06:43] <snakeface> i tried the liquid with my laptop, which has kde 4.
[06:43] <snakeface> it was strenious
[06:43] <noaXess> dwidmann: me too ;)
[06:43] <sigma__> got dc guys, so wats the status of the 4.2 packages?
[06:43] <dwidmann> On a slightly less negative note it would seem my temperature sensors are supported by 2.6.27
[06:44] <snakeface> what i was really asking is if there are non-plasmoids that can be placed on the desktop like plasmoids.
[06:44] <snakeface> some other thing.
[06:44] <noaXess> dwidmann: your answer about my keyboard problem, where to change the driver cause in xorg all mouse and keyboard specific settings are disabled: # commented out by update-manager, HAL is now used
[06:45] <sigma__> dam some guys were giving kubuntu a beating on the kde news site. they obviously don't understand that intrepid is just a transition distro, im guessing we'll see the complete kde4 integration in jaunty
[06:45] <dwidmann> noaXess: then explicitly change it to evdev
[06:45] <noaXess> dwidmann: you mean configure keyboard over xorg?
[06:45] <dwidmann> noaXess: there's a bit you can copy and paste for it in the evdev manual, however it requires a small editor or two
[06:46] <dwidmann> s/editor/edit
[06:46] <dwidmann> noaXess: it just involves adding that section that wasn't there to xorg.conf
[06:46] <sigma__> anyway intrepid works fine for me, still some features missing though, but i can edit text files so thats not a huge problem
[06:47] <birnisson> sigma__: in -devel I got the impression there will be no 4.2 packages for intrepid for now...
[06:47] <noaXess> dwidmann: sorry.. it's to early in the morning.. i don't understand.. should the keyboard configured trought xorg.conf?
[06:48] <sigma__> birnisson: oh well its only beta 1, i guess i can wait for the final since 4.1 is dam stable
[06:48] <sigma__> would have been nice to give it a test drive though
[06:48] <dwidmann> noaXess: well, if it's giving you trouble, then yes, specify the config :)
[06:49] <dwidmann> birnisson: well, you could try it with the neon kde-nightly packages, which are  basically it right now.
[06:49] <noaXess> dwidmann: so, reenable earlier settings in xorg.conf.. ok.. no i think my brain has found the way ;)
[06:49] <birnisson> dwidmann: is kde-nightly still active?
[06:50] <dwidmann> noaXess: no, like I said, for what we were going to try, you'll need to add something entirely new, and the bit to copy+paste is in the evdev manual :)
[06:50] <noaXess> dwidmann: but the other way.. "HAL is used".. is there even a way to configure input devices where HAL is used?
[06:50] <dwidmann> birnisson: afaik
[06:50] <sigma__> kde-nightly is just extra weight
[06:50] <dwidmann> noaXess: any explicit configuration will override it.
[06:50] <noaXess> dwidmann: ok
[06:53] <dwidmann> noaXess: the change that you'll have to make to that copy+pastable section is that you need to specify either the Path or the Device
[06:54] <noaXess> dwidmann: i see.. i have a old xorg.conf backup, where the keyboard section is available, with kbd driver..
[06:54] <eagles0513875> !pdf
[06:54] <eagles0513875> !info kpdf
[06:54] <noaXess> dwidmann: i need also the entry in serverlayout, right? eg. InputDevice    "Generic Keyboard"
[06:54] <dwidmann> noaXess: and you're already using it, that's what hal always picks
[06:54] <eagles0513875> wtf has replaced kpdf in intrepid
[06:54] <dwidmann> bah, let me just throw out an example :)
[06:54] <noaXess> eagles0513875: okular
[06:54] <noaXess> !info okular | eagles0513875
[06:55] <noaXess> dwidmann: sorry.. :]
[06:55] <eagles0513875> noaXess does that work for pdfs as well
[06:55] <noaXess> eagles0513875: try it..
[06:55] <noaXess> don't know
[06:55] <noaXess> should
[06:55] <noaXess> also for pdf forms
[06:55] <eagles0513875> dwidmann can i use okular for pdfs
[06:55] <sigma__> lol okular is the official pdf reader for kde4:)
[06:56] <szal> eagles0513875: try it, it won't eat your PDFs ;)
[06:56] <eagles0513875> ty sigma__
[06:56] <snakeface> i downloaded a kde 3 theme that is a .deb file.  what does that mean?
[06:57] <eagles0513875> now i need to figure out what i need to install for wifi authentication against a radius server
[06:58] <sparr> wish me luck on my first apt-get from jaunty
[06:58] <noaXess> dwidmann: that i found in X.org.0.log: Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
[06:58] <sigma__> snakeface: you need to install it with gdebi
[06:58] <sigma__> snakeface: click on it
[06:59] <sigma__> jaunty is probably more or less the same as intrepid right now
[06:59] <snakeface> i can install the file, but how do i apply it?
[06:59] <sparr> sigma__: more less than more :)  im stymied right now by a package in intrepid with build dependencies in jaunty
[06:59] <sigma__> snakeface: are you on hardy with kde3?
[07:00] <snakeface> im on 8.10
[07:00] <sigma__> sparr: i just use the finals lol
[07:00] <snakeface> its 3.5
[07:00] <snakeface> it is not appearing in kcontrol
[07:00] <sparr> sigma__: intrepid final has at least one package that cannot be built without dependencies from jaunty
[07:00] <sigma__> snakeface: how did u get 3.5 on intrepid?
[07:01] <sigma__> sparr: thankfully i dont need that package!
[07:01] <sparr> i do :(
[07:01] <snakeface> maybe it's not 3.5.  Its the default.
[07:01] <snakeface> and itts not 4, i know that
[07:01] <snakeface> i think because i updated from 7.04
[07:02] <snakeface> it left the old version of kde
[07:02] <szal> Kubuntu Intrepid == KDE 4.1
[07:02] <snakeface> i know.
[07:02] <snakeface> but thats not what this is
[07:02] <szal> there is only a 3rd-party repo for KDE 3.5 in Intrepid
[07:02] <szal> only other thing I can imagine here is Gnome, but then you're most probably not on _K_ubuntu ;)
[07:03] <dwidmann> snakeface: if you do a straight upgrade without hitting all the bumps in the road, things generally don't go too well.
[07:03] <sigma__> snakeface: you are supposed to go from 7.04 to 7.10 to 8.04 to 8.10
[07:03] <dwidmann> snakeface: backing up if needed and a clean install may be the quickest way to fix
[07:03] <vbgunz> anyone know how I can get my docs to everything KDE4? everytime I go to check a help file, I always get 'there is no documentation for...' ... :/
[07:04] <_2> can anyone suggest to me, why my usb drive will no longer mount, and i get this from dmesg [17189108.924000] Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
[07:04] <sigma__> snakeface: something must have broken. i advise backing up, formatting and installing a fresh 8.10
[07:04] <snakeface> im not having problems, really, and kde 4 would probably be really slow on this computer
[07:04] <genii-around> vbgunz: Install package kubuntu-docs
[07:04] <snakeface> its only a pentium 4
[07:04] <sigma__> guys is there a official kde3 for intrepid?
[07:04] <snakeface> with 12 ram
[07:04] <snakeface> *512
[07:05] <sigma__> snakeface: why wouldnt that handle kde4?
[07:05] <vbgunz> genii-around: kubuntu-docs is already the newest version. :(
[07:05] <snakeface> i dont know i tried installing it with 8.04 awhile ago and it crashed
[07:05] <szal> sigma__: [08:02:21] < szal> there is only a 3rd-party repo for KDE 3.5 in Intrepid <-- i.e. unofficial
[07:06] <_2> genii-around have any clue on my recently borked dapper ???
[07:06] <sigma__> yeah so if its not official you should use kde4 to prevent data loss:)
[07:06] <snakeface> maybe that was because hardy was not configured for kde4
[07:06] <sigma__> _2: maybe its time for a upgrade
[07:06] <dwidmann> snakeface: that system will work just fine, however, you might want to turn off desktop effects ... in fact, a lot of people want to do that ... or maybe just not use kwin altogether (you can use a different window manager instead, while still  using kde+plasma+etc)
[07:06] <_2> did they hose a kernel update ?
[07:06] <snakeface> i also have a dell onboard video card, incapable of compiz
[07:07] <snakeface> okay that makes sense
[07:07] <sigma__> snakeface: you dont have to use compositing in kde4
[07:07] <_2> sigma__ bite me
[07:07] <sigma__> snakeface: i used kde4 on hardy, intrepid is way faster
[07:07] <snakeface> i use it on my laptop fine, but it's a lot better
[07:07] <genii-around> _2: No idea... I have not run the latest update on my 6.06.2 server boxes yet
[07:07] <sigma__> _2: is dapper still in the repo's? :)
[07:08] <_2> sigma__ it's still supported   yes.   LTS
[07:08] <genii-around> sigma__: Yes, Dapper server is supported until 2011
[07:08] <dwidmann> snakeface: if it's an intel card, it may actually work quite well
[07:08] <snakeface> can i do a clean install of intrepid without a cd?
[07:08] <szal> sigma__: Dapper is LTS, it'll be around for a while ;)
[07:08] <sigma__> well for a server as long as you get security updates its ok to stay on a old release. not that they do much except send and receive data
[07:08] <_2> genii-around may i suggest that you do not, at least not without backing things up first.
[07:08] <szal> snakeface: the least thing you need is a boot medium..  no idea if there are floppy images if you lack a CD drive or something
[07:09] <sigma__> snakeface: you can use a flash drive
[07:09] <snakeface> no i just dont have any blank cds, and dont have a car to go get them lol
[07:09] <genii-around> _2: Good to know. I'll let you know how things go after Sunday which is when I have auto update to run , but I'll backup before then for insurance
[07:09] <_2> genii-around i lost all usb access   and don't even know why.   all the modules are inserted propperly
[07:09] <szal> snakeface: how about walking? ;)
[07:09] <snakeface> i live in the country.
[07:10] <snakeface> how do you do a live install?  can you do it with a thumbdrive?
[07:10] <genii-around> _2: Hmm. I wonder if powersaving tweaks/changes
[07:10] <szal> snakeface: if your machine supports booting from one that's an option
[07:10] <snakeface> or can i use this 7.04 cd as a boot medium, and then do a live install?
[07:11] <snakeface> of 8.10
[07:11] <szal> most probably not
[07:11] <_2> genii-around idk,   shouldn't affect my system though...
[07:11] <snakeface> lol.
[07:11] <genii-around> _2: I have had to previously disable powersaving of USB for things not to shut off then never be able to be reawakened
[07:11] <snakeface> okay i guess ill just wait til monday when i can get a ride.  it's not too bad.
[07:11] <snakeface> i might be able to go tomorrow.  we have all these sales here in the us on electronics
[07:12] <szal> snakeface: get yourself a pack of CDRWs, can't hurt
[07:12] <_2> genii-around yeah i don't use any power management though
[07:12] <szal> especially if you get new install media twice a year
[07:12] <genii-around> _2: Previous kernel works?
[07:12] <sigma__> snakeface: or order from shipit, however it may take 10weeks+
[07:13] <snakeface> can i simulate a drive to run an iso file of a windows program and boot it in wine?
[07:13] <snakeface> 10 weeks lol.
[07:13] <noaXess> dwidmann: this commented out by HAL.. can that also be the problem, that i can't disable my notebook touchpad over the keyboard?
[07:13] <sigma__> snakeface: hey im not complaining, they dont charge for it
[07:13] <_2> checking security.ubuntu.com to see if there might be a fix already,  i haven't updated for a few days but only noticed the problem today (don't use usb much)
[07:13] <snakeface> yeah they pay for shipping too
[07:13] <genii-around> snakeface: loopmount the iso in linux, then put in a symlink for it to be the wine's cd
[07:13] <dwidmann> noaXess: erm, dunno, I know that it won't comment it out again, it did that during the upgrade or some such
[07:14] <noaXess> dwidmann: jep.. ok testing around ;)
[07:14] <snakeface> its a rosetta stone program i got on a torrent.
[07:14] <snakeface> i might just have to do a dual boot thing when i want to use it.
[07:15] <szal> snakeface: you can mount the ISO and run any program on it
[07:15] <_2> genii-around i'll boot an i386 kernel as soon as the update finishes     the latest kernel updates  have been blasted overwrites   same version only patched so i can't undo them.
[07:15] <sigma__> snakeface: why dont you want to burn a cd?
[07:15] <snakeface> i know but to run it through wine could be complicated
[07:15] <snakeface> i dont have any lol.
[07:15] <snakeface> plus it's dvd sized
[07:16] <snakeface> anyway
[07:16] <sigma__> snakeface: they dont cost that much
[07:16] <snakeface> the program is over 700mb
[07:16]  * _2 always gets tense when he sees the same kernel version as he is running comming from security/updates ...  
[07:16] <sigma__> snakeface: no its not
[07:16] <sigma__> snakeface: it fits on a standard cd
[07:17] <snakeface> rosetta stone?
[07:17] <snakeface> the program itself does
[07:17] <dwidmann> snakeface: a cd can actually hold about 702-703MB
[07:17] <snakeface> but the language packs dont
[07:17] <_2> genii-around there is indeed a kernel update again.  my guess is that they released a patch that broke things and quickly released a patch for the patch...
[07:17] <genii-around> Hm
[07:18] <genii-around> !iso | snakeface
[07:18] <genii-around> snakeface: Use the method above to mount the iso to a dir. Then go into Configure Wine and set that dir to be a CD
[07:18] <snakeface> ubottu okay i will try it.  i have had issues with wine though, and i cant imagine ill be able to figure this out.
[07:19]  * dwidmann might be back in a bit, or might just disappear for a while
[07:19] <snakeface> genii-around okay thats not too complicated.
[07:19] <snakeface> it being a rip though there could be complications.
[07:19] <snakeface> i have to learn tagalog quick though
[07:20] <snakeface> is ubottu really a bot or is that a joke?
[07:20] <snakeface> i guess he is.
[07:21] <genii-around> snakeface: He's a bot :)
[07:21] <genii-around> snakeface: I told him to recal some factoid with the:    !iso       then to direct that to you with the:   | snakeface
[07:22] <noaXess> dwidmann: ok. kdm restarted.. now testing whats happend..
[07:22] <noaXess> whats the tool to get the keyboard input of a specific key on my kb?
[07:23] <snakeface> how do you make the "|" on a keyboard?
[07:24] <szal> snakeface: depends on your keyboard layout
[07:25] <snakeface> oh im in america
[07:25] <snakeface> its, uh, american
[07:25] <faileas> the key above the enter right at the right hand side, with a shift i think
[07:25]  * faileas uses a UK keyboard, with american layout. ;p
[07:25] <szal> German keyboards have a key left of the Y key (where the Z key is on QWERTY keyboards), the pipe (|) character is invoked w/ right Alt + that key
[07:26] <snakeface> |||||
[07:26] <snakeface> dur.
[07:27] <snakeface> thanks for that.
[07:29] <noaXess> dwidmann: hm.. this device /dev/input/by-id/usb-099a_USB_Keypad-event-kbd is my external usb keypad, only numbers..
[07:29] <noaXess> but where can i find the device nam of my notebook keyboard?
[07:31] <shovi> Why doesnt Kate save the layout when I close it... When I re-open it, its all plain again, no plugins/extensions/tabs/terminal....
[07:31] <snakeface> can i run openbox with this old onboard video setup?
[07:33] <genii-around> noaXess: Try /dev/stdin      ?
[07:33] <nixternal> snakeface: you sure can...I run openbox on a via video card...it doesn't get worse than that
[07:33] <noaXess> genii-around: is that the integrated notebook keyboard?
[07:34] <snakeface> okay i love the way some of these desktops look.
[07:34] <snakeface> much better than what i can do with regular kde settings
[07:34] <genii-around> noaXess: It would be whatever is the standard input device .. eg: keyboard
[07:34] <noaXess> genii-around: ok.. will try it
[07:35] <stdin> /dev/stdin is the tty/pty, not the actual keyboard
[07:35] <Ch1ppy> Can er expect 4.2 beta packages at some point?
[07:35]  * stdin knows about /dev/stdin
[07:35] <Ch1ppy> Can we**
[07:35] <stdin> Ch1ppy: in progress
[07:35] <dwidmann> noaXess: if you can't find a /dev/input/by-id for it, then use Path instead of Device, and use /dev/input/by-path/....
[07:35] <genii-around> stdin: Hehe :) On mine ls -l /dev/stdin   shows:  /dev/stdin -> /proc/self/fd/0
[07:36] <Ch1ppy> stdin: do we have an eta or something?
[07:36] <HRshovinstuff> i updated to 8.10 and now my nvidia drivers will not initate, anyone have any advice, or is there a way to roll back to 8.04?
[07:36] <stdin> genii-around: and "ls -l /proc/self/fd/0" ?
[07:36] <snakeface> nixternal i installed openbox how do i turn it on?
[07:36] <stdin> Ch1ppy: when it's ready
[07:37] <noaXess> dwidmann: can that be the internal kb? platform-i8042-serio-0-event-kbd or that pci-0000:00:1d.7-usb-0:1.2:1.0-event-kbd, my think.. the second is the external number keybad.. on usb
[07:37] <Ch1ppy> stdin: I certainly hope so. But like, in a week? In a few days?
[07:37] <stdin> genii-around: I'm guessing /dev/pts/<some number>
[07:37] <nixternal> snakeface: you might want to check out the openbox irc channel and docs for that...there is a lot of configuration to it and customization to make it do what you want
[07:37] <noaXess> ah.. unplug external and see what is in /dev/input/by-path :) simplest test ever..
[07:37] <snakeface> nixternal: alright i figured as much.
[07:37] <snakeface> thanks.
[07:38] <genii-around> stdin: Yup
[07:38] <stdin> Ch1ppy: when we are sure it all builds and installs fine
[07:38] <Ch1ppy> stdin: Haha, alright. Thanks!
[07:38] <_2> i don't know.  maybe it's not the kernel.  booting an older kernel (known to work) still doesn't work   o.O
[07:39] <noaXess> see ya later.. need a reboot. new kernel..
[07:40] <dwidmann> _2: ah, that certainly throws a wrench into things
[07:40] <genii-around> _2: I'm still suspecting apm/acpi
[07:41] <_2> dwidmann yeah.
[07:41] <_2> genii-around but i don't use either.
[07:41] <_2> no acpi and no apm
[07:41] <genii-around> _2: You have explicitly for instance noacpi or so in kernel load line?
[07:41] <_2> yes
[07:42] <_2> also my lilo.conf has not changed.
[07:42] <genii-around> _2: Then next suspect is something in udev relating to usb
[07:42] <genii-around> _2: lsusb   shows everything but just not working?
[07:43] <_2> heh  but i don't use udev either
[07:43] <SilentDis> bit of an odd one here.  Kubuntu 8.10, I'm trying to install KAudioCreator, and aptitude is kicking back a "no candidate version found for kaudiocreator" error on me.  suggestions?
[07:44] <_2> lsusb shows nothing at all
[07:44] <genii-around> _2: So usb filesystem like old 2.2 2.4 kernels?
[07:44] <_2> genii-around no just static devices
[07:44] <_2> sd?
[07:45] <_2> lsmod output http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/19455 and mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[07:45] <_2> Mountainman: you must specify the filesystem type
[07:45] <genii-around> _2: You may need to do MAKEDEV then explicitly or so for each device now
[07:46] <_2> indicating that the device is not recognized
[07:46] <genii-around> _2: Yu
[07:46] <genii-around> *Yup
[07:46] <_2> genii-around i have the device nodes.   static device nodes   and the problem is new,  but the usb devices are not new   i have been mounting that way for years...
[07:47] <genii-around> _2: At this time, this is my best guess\
[07:47] <_2> this thing has me bum fuzzeled.
[07:47] <_2> genii-around what is your best guess ?
[07:47] <SilentDis> it appears i'm missing much of kdemultimedia and have no way to access it.  what am i doing wrong?
[07:49] <_2> it's like the usb bus is just gone  o.O
[07:50] <genii-around> _2: That since you have static device nodes and none seem to be corresponding with your actual devices now, and not running udev to generate them, that: some update has probed them and conceivably changed their settings   or: chipset driver for usb controller may have changed
[07:51] <genii-around> _2: If you know the chipset maybe try modprobe the right driver
[07:51] <_2> genii-around but the kernel is not seeing the disk
[07:51] <_2> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/19456
[07:53] <genii-around> _2: What does lspci say is vendor:device     of usb controller?
[07:53] <_2> oh wait.   it dawns in my mind at last.
[07:54] <_2> pfft.   well i know now why i can't mount /dev/sda?      would you like to know...
[07:54] <genii-around> _2: Sure. It was powered off? ;)
[07:54] <_2> because /sys is missing     how they are related i don't really know  but that's why.
[07:55] <genii-around> Interesting
[07:55] <_2> i can mkdir /sys    and "re"mount it and then the usb stuff works.
[07:55] <genii-around> _2:
[07:55] <_2> another thing    how can /sys  be mounted when it doesn't exist ?
[07:56]  * genii-around sips his coffee and ponders the number 42
[07:56] <_2> cat /proc/mounts shows /sys as mounted but the dir is not even there
[07:57] <_2> it doesn't pay to get old,   you forget where you park your camel, and end up walking back to the igloo
[07:58] <genii-around> _2: I wonder if that will survive a reboot
[07:59] <SilentDis> bit of an odd one here.  Kubuntu 8.10, I'm trying to install KAudioCreator, and aptitude is kicking back a "no candidate version found for kaudiocreator" error on me.  suggestions?
[07:59] <_2> genii-around yes.  i remember deleting the dir to test some things,   then got busy and never made a new one....    call me a nusense if you want.
[08:02] <_2> genii-around so four days later i try to mount an usb disk and find my system is broken,  i look in dmesg and see the "Driver 'sd' needs updating" message and start looking at modules, device nodes, checking what is mounted where (which all look ok because /sys is mounted according to /proc/mounts) boot other kernel because i think i have narrowed down to there, only to find it does the same thing...
[08:03] <_2> and finally remember the testing i was doing four days ago and { head desk }   DUH!
[08:03] <dwidmann> SilentDis: I don't think it's in intrepid
[08:04] <_2> so,   sorry to have wasted your time.   i'll try to keep this kind of seniour moments from being a habbit here.
[08:04] <dwidmann> SilentDis: there are of course, a ton of alternatives
[08:04] <SilentDis> dwidmann: from what i can see, you are correct, i'm trying to get k3b to rip a cd for me now, but it won't even start.  says the CD isn't in the cddb (understandable, it's a local artist), but it doesn't give me an interface or anything to configure it :(
[08:05] <dwidmann> SilentDis: it should let you change it all manually
[08:06] <SilentDis> dwidmann: I click on "rip audio cd" in K3b and the only thing it does is open a tiny notifier box that says it wasn't found in CDDB, that's it.
[08:06] <dwidmann> SilentDis: the same screen where it shows you what all's on it (retrieved from cd) should be editable
[08:06] <SilentDis> dwidmann: I must be missing something then for K3b, as i never get that far in the first place.
[08:07] <dwidmann> Though, like I said there are plenty of alternatives out there too ... like soundkonverter, abcde, ripit, .... heck, you could even rip CDs with konqueror, though I think it might *need* cddb
[08:07] <SilentDis> dwidmann: and I've been having lots of problems with the new adept, trying to find packages in it is like pulling teeth >.<
[08:08] <dwidmann> SilentDis: might I recommend learning how to use apt-get, apt-cache, and (optionally) apt-file in its stead.
[08:08] <dwidmann> SilentDis: they never disappoint :)
[08:09] <SilentDis> dwidmann: I use aptitude from the command line well enough, but it's sometimes easier to 'browse' with a gui, and I never was able to figure out aptitudes gui and how to move in it.
[08:09] <faileas> dwidmann: apt-file?
[08:09] <dwidmann> faileas: apt-file searches for files in packages, that is, in *all* packages, not just the ones you have installed.
[08:10] <faileas> dwidmann: ahh, for dependancy management and such?
[08:10] <szal> yep
[08:10] <szal> e.g. if you're missing some libxyz0, you can type 'apt-file libxyz0' and it'll come up w/ the pkg that has that lib
[08:11] <noaXess> is there a way to get time/dates in X.org.0.log?
[08:12] <SilentDis> dwidmann: soundkonverter looks very promising (just installed it), but am I missing something to change it from CBR to VBR MP3 encoding?
[08:12] <dwidmann> SilentDis: it's *very* flexible
[08:13] <szal> use lame on the cmdline..  and search Google for mlame, a script that facilitates batch processing
[08:13] <SilentDis> dwidmann: I just need to figure out how to switch it to VBR it appears...
[08:14] <dwidmann> SilentDis: click on the "detailed tab", everything should be changeable from there
[08:14] <SilentDis> dwidmann: got it, it was using ffmpeg as the encoder/decoder and such, i'm switching 'em over now :)
[08:14] <dwidmann> SilentDis: don't forget to click the little save icon after you're done setting it up, so you can use the same "profile" in the future
[08:16] <mongrethod> Strange problem: I just installed Kubuntu on an older A31 thinkpad, and it seems fine, except that the screen suddenly got dimmer
[08:16] <mongrethod> I dont think its a hardware thing because the screen is uniformly dimmer, i.e. its not like one of the backlights failed
[08:16] <SilentDis> dwidmann: oh yeah, soundkonverter is perfect.  little tweaking aside, this is what i need.  thanks!
[08:18] <mongrethod> annnd now it just went back to the normal brightness...
[08:18] <szal> sounds more like a random hardware hiccup
[08:19] <mongrethod> yeah i guess it must be :S
[08:19] <mongrethod> bizarre.
[08:19] <mongrethod> How do I get it to recognize the onboard wireless card?
[08:20] <mongrethod> im on an identical machine w/ win2k and that just recognized it automatically, but i guess kubuntu needs some nudging
[08:24] <mongrethod> like is there some device manager or something that I can check to see if it is even seeing the hardware?
[08:24] <szal> lspci
[08:25] <mongrethod> thanks :)
[08:25] <mongrethod> so it sees it
[08:25] <mongrethod> sorry for the complete noob questions this is my first install
[08:25] <mongrethod> what next
[08:25] <szal> or, perhaps even better, lshw <-- lists all recognized hardware neatly arranged
[08:28] <mongrethod> yeah so kubuntu knows i have a wireless card built in
[08:29] <mongrethod> i dont even know how to check if it has drivers though
[08:29] <mongrethod> i would assume it does b/c lshw can tell me what its called etc
[08:29] <szal> what type of card does it say that it is?
[08:32] <aftertaf> hey :)
[08:32] <mongrethod> im trying to use the FAQ so i can stop bothering the channel but its sort of tough
[08:32] <mongrethod> its  Intersil corp prsim 2.5 wavelan chipset
[08:32] <aftertaf> any news on when 4.2 beta debs will be released?
[08:32] <mongrethod> but the "subsystem" is actiontec device 0405
[08:32] <mongrethod> the faq lists actiontec but not intersil so im going with that
[08:33] <mongrethod> http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=Actiontec
[08:33] <mongrethod> from that page I can't figure out which one it is
[08:33] <mongrethod> and they seem to almost all use different drivers.
[08:33] <szal> well, blame the manufacturer(s)
[08:34] <mongrethod> yeah
[08:34] <mongrethod> the kernel driver currently in use is orinoco_pci
[08:34] <mongrethod> and both PCI ones on that page use the same driver
[08:34] <mongrethod> i guess ill give that a try
[08:35]  * szal doesn't have wifi
[08:35] <mongrethod> hahaha
[08:35] <szal> so I'm probably not much of a help here
[08:35] <mongrethod> hmm
[08:35] <mongrethod> on this page it says "Note! Host AP driver was added into the main kernel tree in Linux v2.6.14. The version in the kernel tree should be used instead of this external hostap-driver package. The external releases are only for older kernel versions and all the future development will be in the main kernel tree. "
[08:35] <mongrethod> does that mean that I already have the driver somewhere in this kubuntu install?
[08:41] <mongrethod> ?
[08:48] <Deiz> Groan.
[08:48] <Deiz> Any of you manage to get K3b to write CD-Text?
[08:48] <mongrethod> :-\
[08:49]  * szal burned a handful of audio CDs w/ CD text fine
[08:49] <szal> but I think that was on pre-1.0 versions
[08:50] <Deiz> For reasons unknown, specifying CD Text and enabling the Write CD-Text option results in blank fields.
[08:50] <Deiz> Rather annoying.
[08:51] <szal> what version of K3b?
[08:51] <Deiz> 1.0.5
[09:00] <Deiz> Fail.
[09:00] <Deiz> Tried another system, thinking it might be the laptop's drive. It's not.
[09:02] <Deiz> That guy @ 195.161.7.50 isn't so creative with names.
[09:11] <g33k_gir1> how do I switch back from KDE4 to the older version?
[09:12] <aftertaf> g33k_gir1: nasty :)
[09:12] <aftertaf> g33k_gir1: u now happy with it?
[09:12] <aftertaf> not
[09:13] <g33k_gir1> aftertaf:  Ever since I upgraded I've had endless problems with programs crashing etc
[09:13] <dwidmann> g33k_gir1: either reinstall with hardy, or compile yourself a kde3
[09:13] <g33k_gir1> I can't even get firefox to work anymore (to google how to fix the problem)
[09:13] <szal> Konqueror exists ;)
[09:13] <aftertaf> g33k_gir1: what release do you have? 4.1.2 ?
[09:14] <aftertaf> 4.1.3?
[09:14] <g33k_gir1> szal: konqueror keeps trying to open firefox whenever an HTML page is loaded :(
[09:14] <g33k_gir1> aftertaf: where do I check that?
[09:14] <szal> wtf?
[09:14] <g33k_gir1> aftertaf: (I'm feeling completely blonde this morning)
[09:14] <aftertaf> in the hemp menu of konqueror...
[09:14] <aftertaf> looooooooooool
[09:14] <g33k_gir1> szal: thats what I said too
[09:14] <aftertaf> help.... ;)
[09:15] <szal> in fact in the Help menu of any KDE app
[09:15] <g33k_gir1> ok, KDE 4.1.2
[09:15]  * aftertaf thinks KDE apps should also have a Hemp menu
[09:15] <g33k_gir1> adept doesn't show any updates available
[09:16] <g33k_gir1> lol, hemp menus would be great :)
[09:16] <aftertaf> g33k_gir1: ok. you need to add some repositories i think, to have 4.1.3. a lot more stable
[09:16] <aftertaf> they So would :)
[09:17] <aftertaf> g33k_gir1: add the 'intrepid-proposed' repository
[09:17] <szal> what's a Hemp menu supposed to be anyway?
[09:18] <g33k_gir1> szal: gives you help for hashing files
[09:18] <aftertaf> g33k_gir1: NICE one :) ! ! ! !!
[09:18] <aftertaf> very nice
[09:19] <g33k_gir1> lol
[09:19] <g33k_gir1> ok, so, command line for adding intrepid-proposed? (cause now Adept is not working either)
[09:19] <epimeth> so no quicklaunch, I can't figure out how to a) change alt+f2 to alt+space and b) change my language settings so alt+shift is not the input language changer (forgot that it breaks reverse flipping through the alt+tab... the switcher should take precedence, no?), my screen flickers, and the wireless network locater finds every wireless network in the area except for the closest one.
[09:20] <epimeth> but aside from that, plasma is totally one of the coolest apps I've seen in a long time
[09:20] <epimeth> g33k_gir1: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:20] <aftertaf> g33k_gir1: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:20] <aftertaf> also :)
[09:20] <aftertaf> or vim if they arent wxorking too
[09:20] <epimeth> aftertaf, g33k_gir1: kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list :-p
[09:21] <aftertaf> hehe
[09:21] <epimeth> emacs ftw!
[09:21] <szal> you can use whatever obscure text editor you prefer ;)
[09:21] <epimeth> awk!  do it in awk!!!!
[09:21] <szal> o0
[09:21] <aftertaf> lool
[09:21] <epimeth> sed?
[09:21] <szal> my thought..
[09:21] <epimeth> I could never get used to editing files with either...
[09:21] <aftertaf> g33k_gir1: and add / paste this line : deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-proposed universe main multiverse restricted
[09:22] <g33k_gir1> szal: there is only one. VIM
[09:22] <aftertaf> vim :)
[09:22] <epimeth> I learned it just enough to get through the first quiz in the unix course and then went back to my trusty emacs
[09:22] <aftertaf> my favourite bathroom cleaner too
[09:23]  * aftertaf is waiting for 4.2 beta to hit the .debs
[09:23] <epimeth> aftertaf: afaik you can get the deb, its just not in the repos yet
[09:23] <aftertaf> :) where???
[09:24] <noaXess> how does the tool called, wich i can see, what keaboard keys i klick or what happends if i click eg. the suspend key?
[09:24] <epimeth> let me see if I can find it :-)
[09:24] <aftertaf> lol breakage :)
[09:24] <aftertaf> back in 5
[09:24] <epimeth> noaXess: sorry mate, I've no idea what you're talking about
[09:25] <szal> time for a break, bbl
[09:25] <noaXess> epimeth: there is a tool that shows information about any keyboard klick or klick on a extra keyboard button
[09:26] <epimeth> noaXess: I believe you, I just don't know what it is....
[09:27] <g33k_gir1> so, which repositories would y'all recomment in sources.list?
[09:28] <aftertaf> g33k_gir1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77654/
[09:30] <g33k_gir1> what is the switch to check what will be upgraded, but not install yet? sudo apt-get upgrade ???
[09:30] <aftertaf> yeah, or dist-upgrade . . .
[09:30] <epimeth> why is kdesu no longer an alias of kdesudo?  I keep trying to run things with it :-/
[09:32] <aftertaf> i just sudo and go
[09:32] <epimeth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/77655/ but thats just me
[09:32] <epimeth> g33k_gir1: ^
[09:34] <aftertaf> g33k_gir1: u have a lot of updates ??
[09:34] <epimeth> aftertaf: http://roderick-greening.blogspot.com/2008/11/kde-nightly-neon-for-thrill-seeker-in_03.html
[09:35] <epimeth> aftertaf: and if I may, http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=kde+4.2+deb
[09:35] <epimeth> :-)
[09:35] <aftertaf> pfff lol :)
[09:36] <aftertaf> kde-nightly hmmmmmmmmm
[09:36] <aftertaf> letmegooglethatforyou :) nice !
[09:36] <epimeth> wish I could take credit for it
[09:37] <aftertaf> ill have to remember that one :)
[09:38] <dwidmann> Now THAT is funny.
[09:38] <aftertaf> yeah
[09:39] <epimeth> I love how everyone is crying about parallels killing their brand new 4 gig ram dual core machines while I sit here with like a gig of ram and a crappy 1600mhz --- running at 600 mhz, mind -- and windows xp is flying like a dream in virtualbox
[09:39] <epimeth> go apple!
[09:39] <faileas> epimeth: parallels isn't apple's fault ;p
[09:39] <aftertaf> yeah.... 1gb, P4 uni proc :)
[09:40] <faileas> but virtualbox is great. i'm almost tempted to dump vmware server for it
[09:40] <epimeth> but seriously... how in the name of all that is good and holy do I get this incessant flickering to stop!!!!
[09:40] <dwidmann> epimeth: I can't survive with less than 1GB just for my host OS ... ehehehe
[09:40] <epimeth> my xorg.conf is *empty*
[09:40] <faileas> lol
[09:40] <epimeth> I'm scared and clueless
[09:40] <epimeth> linux is not supposed to automatically load and configure drivers, darnit
[09:41] <faileas> XD
[09:41] <faileas> why not?
[09:41] <epimeth> because then *everyone* will start using it and I can't be the cool elitist dude!
[09:41] <epimeth> was that outloud?
[09:41]  * epimeth shifty eyed
[09:45] <dwidmann> epimeth: fear not, you still need to use the xorg.conf if you want to do anything interesting though
[09:47] <aftertaf> g33k_gir1: so, any news?
[09:48] <epimeth> dwidmann: I'm not afraid, I just have no idea what drivers are loaded atm
[09:48] <dwidmann> epimeth: then grep your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:49] <aftertaf> ok. testing nightly 4.2 now . . .
[09:49] <epimeth> dwidmann: any change you know anything about the flickering bug when with the i915 chip?
[09:49] <dwidmann> epimeth: I've no idea, don't have one of those (mine's an i960)
[09:50] <epimeth> dwidmann: meh... how about network manager not listing everything in iwlist?  I seem to be finding, like, every wireless network except for the one nearest me
[09:51] <epimeth> wow... I *just* noticed... I was scrolling down with the mousewheel from inside the terminal using less!!!
[09:52] <epimeth> awesome
[09:53] <epimeth> in retrospect, so *obvious* but if they implemented that then we are probably *Really* low on real bugs.  I mean, thats gotta be like number 500000 on the main wishlist :-)
[09:53] <shen> '
[09:58] <aftertaf> yeah ! ! !
[09:59] <dwidmann> epimeth: don't know, don't do wireless too often ... when I do, I never have trouble finding networks, though I do sometimes have trouble connecting
[09:59] <aftertaf> 4.2 is niiiiiice
[09:59] <epimeth> grumble shoddy pre ubuntu dell with shoddy driver support grumble
[10:00] <epimeth> oh?  whats different?
[10:00] <dwidmann> epimeth: one's one of the ubuntu dell's actually ... still not quite perfect eh?
[10:00] <aftertaf> looks better
[10:00] <epimeth> ?
[10:00] <aftertaf> looks and feels better and more finished
[10:01] <aftertaf> but applications menu is empty :)
[10:01] <dwidmann> s/one's one/mine's one/
[10:01] <epimeth> dwidmann: either its 5am or you totally didn't mean to type that
[10:01] <aftertaf> though run dialog works and finds them ok.
[10:01] <epimeth> ah
[10:01] <aftertaf> more customisable
[10:01] <dwidmann> It's 5 am.
[10:01] <epimeth> yea
[10:01] <epimeth> that too :-)
[10:02] <aftertaf> autohiding panels :)
[10:02] <epimeth> its like they took the cheapest wlan card and cheapest gfx chip they could find
[10:02] <dwidmann> epimeth: that's how dell does business
[10:02] <epimeth> bcm4318 has had problems since its inception... I really don't understand why it only works decently when in windows
[10:03] <aftertaf> nice nice nice :) ok. got to hoover the house :)
[10:03] <epimeth> dwidmann: no doubt, but there has to be a limit.  they can't allow themselves to afford a class action suit.
[10:04] <dwidmann> epimeth: it's like a "you wanted the cheapest computer, well you got it" kinda deal ...
[10:04] <dwidmann> cheap usually equals cheap
[10:04] <epimeth> yea, and refurbished to boot!  This POS was a friggin *steal*
[10:06] <dwidmann> Guess the other reason dell stays afloat is things like getting potheads to say "dude, you're gettin' a dell" on tv commercials :P
[10:06] <epimeth> okay... gonna restart X... maybe using compiz for the window manager will clear up the flicker....
[10:09] <epimeth> I thought the new network manager worked from outside of x?  why was I disconnected?
[10:09] <epimeth> oh well
[10:09] <epimeth> so compiz didn't fix the flicker :-(
[10:10] <epimeth> now how do I get to the list of effects?  All I see from the settings is "use custom settings from another settings manager"
[10:10] <epimeth> where is this "other" manager?
[10:11] <epimeth> found it... forget I asked :-)
[10:14] <dwidmann> epimeth: if it's flickering, that's not the WM's fault ... was gonna tell you but you had already gone
[10:16] <ubuntu-dron> will there be any packages of KDE 4.2 Beta1 for Kubuntu Intrepid?
[10:20] <epimeth> dwidmann: oh I knew it wasn't that... wishfull thinking is all
[10:21] <faileas> dwidmann: and most people want a black box so to speak ;p
[10:21] <faileas> they don't really want to bother with the minutae
[10:22] <dwidmann> faileas: good for them :P
[10:22] <faileas> bad for the people they turn to ;p
[10:23] <faileas> if i go a dollar for every time i fixed a problem that took me less than 5 minues to diagnose..
[10:23] <dwidmann> faileas: haha, just a bit
[10:23] <faileas> ahh sweet
[10:23] <dwidmann> faileas: yeah, you could retire
[10:23]  * faileas has another puter he can use ;p
[10:24]  * faileas wonders why a 8 year old box would have a 1400 x 850 or some think like that craziness
[10:24] <dwidmann> faileas: 1440x900?
[10:25] <faileas> dwidmann: no 1400 x 1050
[10:25] <faileas> my bad
[10:25] <dwidmann> faileas: wow, weirder still
[10:26] <dwidmann> faileas: but that does make sense for an older box ... 4:3
[10:27] <faileas> dwidmann: its an a20p. used to run ubuntu on it, and debian (both needed a custom xorg). currently running win2k/win98 dualboot ;p
[10:27] <drkns> hello
[10:27] <dwidmann> hi
[10:27] <drkns> I am getting this error on dolphin
[10:27] <drkns> Configuration file "/home/drkns/.kde/share/config/dolphinrc" not writable.
[10:27] <drkns> Please contact your system administrator.
[10:28] <faileas> dwidmann: its VERY high resolution, even compared with modern boxen
[10:28] <drkns> what could be the solution to this?
[10:28] <dwidmann> drkns: try sudo chown drkns:drkns /home/drkns/.kde/share/config/dolphinrc
[10:30] <dwidmann> faileas: Yeah, that is pretty high res, my monitor still has it beat though, by a bit (1680x1050)
[10:30] <drkns> worked thank you
[10:30] <dwidmann> drkns: as per the cause, remember to never, ever run graphical apps with sudo, use kdesudo instead.
[10:30] <faileas> dwidmann: on a 8 year old system, with a graphics card with 16 mb of vram ;p
[10:31] <drkns> why is this happening though all i did was change the user from root to drkns on my second hd
[10:32] <drkns> other problem is wireless i have broadcom 43xx and it used to work on 8.04 but now on 8.10 it is not
[10:32] <drkns> should i use ndiswrapper??
[10:33] <drkns> wireless connection light is always on and no connection to accesspoint
[10:34] <dwidmann> drkns: epimeth was mentioning trouble with broadcom 43xx too ... maybe he's figured something out, if you're lucky
[10:34] <avihayb> drkns:  after installing kubuntu 8.10?
[10:35] <avihayb> Could anyone point me to a page of kubuntu 8.10 related bugs and problems (that hopefully also offers solutions)?
[10:36] <robin0800> avihayb: see the forum
[10:37] <avihayb> fine, I just thought that there is a chanse someone concentrated it all in one place
[10:37] <drkns> yes
[10:38] <ubuntu_> hello
[10:38] <drkns> my wireless worked on 8.04 by its kubuntu drivers perfectly but not with 8.10 after i upgraded to
[10:39] <JOY> HELLO
[10:43] <avihayb> drkns: I have the same problem
[10:53] <drkns> aviyahb would you be able to find some solution?
[11:21] <edi_99> Hi guys, I have installed LAMP server and I would like to remove it now... what's the correct terminal command to do that?
[11:24] <faileas> edi_99: did you install it as individual packages or a metapackage?
[11:25] <bio23> bonjour
[11:25] <edi_99> faileas: I have installed it through tasksel
[11:25] <edi_99> edi_99: and now I would like to completely remove everything
[11:25] <faileas> edi_99: hmm. it should be sudo apt-get remove <package1> <package2> etc...
[11:26] <faileas> not sure if you can run tasksel again to remove things >_>
[11:27] <edi_99> faileas: i think so too... but what are the packages to remove?
[11:27] <faileas> edi_99: i have no idea i'm afraid.
[11:31] <edi_99> faileas: what exactly does this command do: dpkg --get-selections | grep deinstall$ | cut -f1 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge
[11:34] <faileas> er...
[11:35] <faileas> not entirely sure. ;p
[11:37] <edi_99> faileas: that's allright :)
[11:38] <slayer> Kubuntu is a fscking assware, m8
[11:44] <natalisushka> Hi, I am using kubuntu 8.10 and finding difficulty adding custom icons to the panel, any idea how i can do that? I tried searching among widgets but didn't find any custom application launcher.
[11:46] <neverendingo> natalisushka: if the application exists in the menu you can add it from there. right click on it, then use "add to panel"
[11:47] <natalisushka> neverendingo, it does not.
[11:48] <neverendingo> natalisushka: ATM there is no better way than adding the app to the menu first via kmenuedit.
[11:48] <natalisushka> neverendingo, it's eclipse with pdt extension. I know I can install it from the repos, but it's an all-in-one app that I extract manually somewhere. In Gnome I can easily create a custom app icon with the eclipse logo, but can't do that here
[11:49] <natalisushka> hmmm. Ok, then i'll do that, but I remember there was a way in previous KDE releases!
[11:49] <brian1099> hi
[11:50] <brian1099> is anyone packaging 4.2b1?
[11:50] <neverendingo> natalisushka: yes, there was. But right now it is not implemented.
[11:55] <matthew> Deiz u there?
[11:55] <Deiz> Yep.
[11:55] <matthew> i did something to my desktop and now i cant see what programs ive opened
[11:56] <matthew> in the tray at the bottow
[11:56] <matthew> bottom
[11:56] <Deiz> But they open fine?
[11:56] <matthew> YEa
[11:56] <matthew> just
[11:56] <matthew> cant see them
[11:56] <matthew> so when i minimize
[11:56] <Deiz> Right click the bottom panel
[11:56] <matthew> cant re open
[11:56] <matthew> yep
[11:56] <Deiz> Add widgets
[11:56] <Deiz> Task Manager
[11:56] <matthew> Oh ok thanks :D
[11:57] <Deiz> Then hit the little ying yang in the top right or bottom right and position it so the clock and system tray are where they should be
[11:57] <matthew> is there anyway
[11:57] <matthew> i can open up a exe file?
[11:57] <Deiz> Yes, Wine.
[11:57] <serenity> matthew: when wine is installed, yes
[11:57] <matthew> How do i install it?
[11:57] <Deiz> Through Adept or Synaptic.
[11:57] <serenity> matthew: open adept und look for wine
[11:57] <matthew> Ok i got adept
[11:57] <matthew> ok thanks
[11:57] <matthew> :D
[11:58] <matthew> When i go to play nexuiz
[11:58] <matthew> i experienec lots of lagg
[11:58] <matthew> Any ideas?
[11:58] <Deiz> Did you have lag under Windows?
[11:59] <matthew> No
[11:59] <serenity> matthew: installed 3d-drivers?
[11:59] <matthew> dont think so
[11:59] <matthew> Ok this wine is called what?
[11:59] <serenity> wine
[11:59] <matthew> Wine Microsoft Windows Compatibilitty Layer?
[11:59] <Deiz> Yep.
[11:59] <matthew> Ok
[11:59] <serenity> so you have to installed drivers for your video card. Open k-Menu, systems, jockey
[12:00] <matthew> So where can i get 3d drivers from?
[12:00] <matthew> Jocky?
[12:01] <matthew> Not coming up
[12:01] <Deiz> It might also be stuffed under System -> Hardware Drivers
[12:01] <jussi01> hardware drivers or something like thz
[12:02] <matthew> Ahh yep
[12:02] <matthew> Ok thanks very much
[12:02] <matthew> ,3
[12:02] <matthew> <3*
[12:03] <eagles0513875> jussi01 can i pm ya with a question
[12:03] <eagles0513875> !jocky
[12:03] <eagles0513875> !info jocky
[12:03] <serenity> it shows youn !jockey
[12:03] <serenity> !jockey
[12:04] <serenity> hmm
[12:04] <Deiz> !info jockey-kde
[12:04] <serenity> ah
[12:04] <matthew> Said there was a problem
[12:04] <matthew> installing wine
[12:04] <matthew> :S
[12:05] <serenity> what did it say exactly?
[12:05] <matthew> Dw
[12:05] <matthew> 'i reinstalled
[12:05] <matthew> and worked now
[12:05] <matthew> so wahts wine under?
[12:06] <eagles0513875> matthew run sudo apt-get install wine in konsole
[12:06] <matthew> How do i get to konsole
[12:07] <eagles0513875> matthew its under applications then system
[12:08] <matthew> Would it be possible for me to sue steam?
[12:09] <serenity> matthew: yes, it is
[12:09] <matthew> ok
[12:10] <matthew> kool
[12:10] <serenity> running portal and hl2 wirh
[12:10] <serenity> with it
[12:10] <matthew> css?
[12:11] <serenity> also
[12:11] <eagles0513875> matthew do u have wine
[12:11] <eagles0513875> i am having an issue authenticating with a windows radius server form my linux machine
[12:12] <eagles0513875> my laptop connects perfectly fine to my home network but not my school network. it connects and i get an ip but when i ping google it returns destination host unreachable
[12:12] <eagles0513875> i am using ubuntu server with kde-core pkg and few things installed
[12:12] <faileas> eagles0513875: does your school use a proxy server?
[12:12] <serenity> matthew: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3731
[12:13] <eagles0513875> faileas no
[12:14] <eagles0513875> on windows i dont have browser set to auto detect proxy
[12:15] <matthew> So where was wine located again?
[12:16] <matthew> Deiz
[12:16] <serenity> matthew: just click on your exe
[12:16] <matthew> where is wine located?
[12:16] <matthew> Wheres that
[12:16] <matthew> :S
[12:16] <faileas> matthew: try which wine to find out where wine is ;p
[12:16] <serenity> matthew: download steam, click on steam.exe
[12:16] <faileas> (why does which tell you where anyway? ;p)
[12:17] <eagles0513875> faileas is there a ns pkg im missing somewhere since i am using the server version and that im missing
[12:17] <faileas> eagles0513875: no idea
[12:17] <eagles0513875> anyone have an idea
[12:17] <eagles0513875> im connected fine at home
[12:20] <matthew> Ok thanks for that guys
[12:20] <matthew> :D
[12:21] <eagles0513875> we got any network experts in here
[12:33] <Assurbanipal> hi guys, i am on kubuntu 8.10 . how do i make the spell checker use more than one languages?? because in texts that combines more than the selected languages, it underlines the second language's words as mistakes
[12:40] <matthew> hey again
[12:40] <matthew> i tried installing
[12:41] <matthew> nexuiz
[12:41] <matthew> but came p with this
[12:41] <matthew> APT Error. Context:
[12:41] <matthew>     Package download failed,
[12:41] <matthew>     I wasn't able to locate a file for the nexuiz-data package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. (due to missing arch),
[12:41] <matthew>     : ,
[12:41] <matthew>     : ,
[12:41] <matthew>     : ,
[12:41] <matthew>     : ,
[12:41] <matthew>     :
[12:41] <matthew> Any ideas?
[12:41] <matthew> serenity
[12:42] <faileas> matthew: for one thing you might want to use the pastbin
[12:42] <faileas> pastebin even
[12:42] <matthew> im n00by
[12:42] <matthew> :S
[12:42] <matthew> like
[12:42] <matthew> 2nd day using this
[12:42] <matthew> so yea
[12:42] <faileas> !pastebin
[12:42] <faileas> ;)
[12:42] <matthew> don;t go too hard on me
[12:43] <faileas> matthew: my repos seem to have it so... maybe find the .deb somewhere and download and install it manually?
[12:43] <matthew> sorry about that
[12:43] <matthew> where would around abouts the .deb be?
[12:43] <faileas> hmm
[12:44] <faileas> its been a while since i needed to google for one
[12:44] <faileas> also, what arch do you  use? and try apt-get update and trying to install again
[12:44] <matthew> Where?
[12:45] <faileas> er in the command line?
[12:45] <Assurbanipal> hi guys, i am on kubuntu 8.10 . how do i make the spell checker use more than one languages?? because in texts that combines more than the selected languages, it underlines the second language's words as mistakes
[12:46] <faileas> sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get install nexuiz-data and see if it gives the same error?
[12:49] <matthew> Ok it worked
[12:49] <matthew> :D
[12:53] <matthew> How do i get my heaphones to work?
[12:53] <matthew> with kubuntu
[12:54] <matthew> Any ideas?
[12:54] <Dr_Willis64> Hmm.. I just plug mine in and they wrork...
[12:54] <matthew> :S
[12:55] <serenity> matthew: usb headphones?
[12:57] <matthew> nah
[12:58] <eagles0513875> matthem headphones i have used worked outa box for me by plugging them into the right jack
[12:58] <serenity> matthew: plug them in, start some music or such and while playing play with kmix
[12:59] <eagles0513875> what serenity said
[12:59] <eagles0513875> !dns
[12:59] <eagles0513875> !ns
[13:00] <eagles0513875> i need help wiht my issue but i guess no network experts around
[13:00] <irock> HELLO
[13:00] <Guest9533> hello
[13:01] <Guest9533> first time in irc - just looking at
[13:02] <eagles0513875> !hi | irock
[13:02] <eagles0513875> !hi | maxim__
[13:04] <tomaz> librdf-dev broken while trying to install.
[13:05] <maxim__> I have Lucent WinModem. I downloaded martian drivers and installed them. Everything fine except that max speed I've got - 31200 while under Windows I have 52000 always
[13:05] <natalisushka> Hi, how can I show desktop contents? In /home/myuser/Desktop I can see what's there, but when I try accessing desktop normally I don't see them! I remember before there was a widget that does it, but it disappeared.
[13:05] <maxim__> Can smbd tell me smth about this?
[13:05] <tomaz> natalisushka: add a widget named folderview
[13:06] <Dr_Willis64> 'accessing he desktop normally' ?
[13:06] <Dr_Willis64> Oh.. :) he means just accessing he icons on the desktop in the old-skool way. :P
[13:06] <tomaz> natalisushka: if you cant add widgets, , make sure it's not locked ( on the top right bubbly icon )
[13:07] <Dr_Willis64> I thought that bubbly icon was called the Cashew
[13:08] <tomaz> Dr_Willis64: If I wanted to people not understand what I'm talking about, I would just say 'click on the cashew.'
[13:08] <natalisushka> tomaz, Thanks, got it :)
[13:08] <Dr_Willis64> Is cashew the official term? ive never noticed.
[13:08] <eagles0513875> Dr_Willis64 did u get my pm
[13:08] <Dr_Willis64> Just dosent seem 'cool' enough term for kde4
[13:09] <Dr_Willis64> Yes eagles0513875  i saw it,
[13:09] <tomaz> I have no idea, I just try to make myself clear.
[13:09] <Dr_Willis64> Yes eagles0513875 and the issue is?
[13:10] <eagles0513875> ok lol
[13:10] <eagles0513875> i setup kde 4.1 super stripped down version using kde-core pkg on ubuntu server
[13:10] <eagles0513875> i have installed a few basic things right now
[13:10] <eagles0513875> and the funny thing is wifi access at home no problems
[13:10] <eagles0513875> at school i got issues
[13:11] <eagles0513875> school uses no proxies but radius server to authenticate wifi access
[13:11] <eagles0513875> ok that works for me but my problem is this
[13:11] <Dr_Willis64> i rarely mess with wireless.. sorry.
[13:11] <eagles0513875> i get an ip and everything but i either dont seem to be getting a gateway or there is no dns resolution on my machine
[13:11] <eagles0513875> !kwifimanager
[13:12] <eagles0513875> !info kwifimanager
[13:12] <Dr_Willis64> i just spent 10 min trying to get the wifes new laptop to connect wirelessy to the router... and then i left it alone.. and poof it finally connected...
[13:12] <Dr_Willis64> laptop right next to that one connectds instantly :)
[13:13] <eagles0513875> doc i installed it yesterday all i needed to do was reboot for it to work
[13:13] <eagles0513875> and it does the same
[13:13] <stas> я нуб
[13:13] <eagles0513875> even with my schools but that seems to be a little more complex
[13:13] <eagles0513875> !ru | stas
[13:14] <eagles0513875> lunch time for now
[13:14] <stas> thank pupl
[13:15] <eagles0513875> no problem stas
[13:16] <nti> yo!
[13:16] <nti> :(
[13:17] <eagles0513875> hi
[13:17] <eagles0513875> !hi | nti
[13:17] <stas> hi
[13:18] <eagles0513875> stas is english ur first language
[13:18] <sorush20> hi
[13:19] <stas> no
[13:19] <eagles0513875> what language stas
[13:19] <stas> rus
[13:19] <eagles0513875> stas go into the room im gonna get u link for this room is english only support
[13:19] <stas> Sanktpeterburg
[13:19] <eagles0513875> !ru | stas
[13:19] <eagles0513875> go in that room
[13:20] <tomaz> write /j #ubuntu-ru
[13:23] <nti> what is happening? :)
[13:23] <lokai> Hi, I want to connect to my personal network using ssh. Unfortunately, the network is using all of its available upstream bandwidth, so ssh times out (regardless of the timeout limit I set). I am not physcially at the location of the network. Is there anything I can do?
[13:24] <eagles0513875> nti stats speaks russian so im helping him get to appropriate channel
[13:30] <stdin> eagles0513875: he's already in #ubuntu-ru
[13:30] <eagles0513875> gotcha
[13:30] <eagles0513875> stdin can you possibly help me with an interesting problem
[13:31] <stdin> depends on the problem and the time it'll take
[13:31] <eagles0513875> well basically i have taken ubuntu server 64bit installed kde-core and installed few things so far on it
[13:31] <eagles0513875> my issue is at school to get on wifi
[13:31] <eagles0513875> we use windows radius server
[13:32] <eagles0513875> i can get on the wifi but for some reason it has no dns resolution
[13:32] <eagles0513875> i get ip from school dhcp server and everything but when i ping i get destination host unreachable of google and when i try go to site i get nothing
[13:33] <eagles0513875> lol
[13:34] <stdin> eagles0513875: ask the admin to give you the IP of the DNS server
[13:34] <eagles0513875> i already know it cuz i worked there over the summer
[13:35] <stdin> have you tried putting it in /etc/resolv.conf?
[13:35] <eagles0513875> no but i will on monday
[13:35] <stdin> echo "nameserver IP-Address" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolv.conf
[13:35] <eagles0513875> funny thing though
[13:36] <eagles0513875> at home i have no problems connecting
[13:36] <eagles0513875> im on it right now
[13:36] <stdin> it'll be an issue with their DHCP server
[13:36] <eagles0513875> then y is it giving me an ip
[13:36] <eagles0513875> *why
[13:37] <stdin> because getting an IP is not the only thing DHCP does
[13:37] <eagles0513875> O_o
[13:37] <eagles0513875> i know it gets subnet gateway and ip and all that
[13:37] <stdin> it sends you DNS servers, a default gateway usually. and can give you a hostname/domainname
[13:37] <eagles0513875> gotcha
[13:38] <eagles0513875> if thats not the problem then i have an issue with radius authentication
[13:38] <eagles0513875> anyways lunch time
[13:39] <gekkoo> how is the file called where all outgoing accounts of kmail are saved?
[13:41] <mehrab> hey guys
[13:42] <mehrab> I removed my desktop panel and now when I add a new pannel, it'll be added on top of the desktopn. what should I do, i want it at the bottom
[13:43] <stdin> mehrab: click the "cashew" on the right of the panel, then click & drag the settings part to the bottom
[13:47] <mehrab> stdin: thank you, worked
[13:49] <dark_> geia...
[13:49] <vOlcer> anyone installed kubuntu 8.10 on a macbook(black one)!?
[13:54] <vOlcer> :)!?
[13:54] <shell_1> geia...
[13:55] <shell_1> e......
[13:59]  * I Sorush is away: Gone away for now
[14:04] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[14:34] <T3rmInAt0r> hi guys
[14:34] <T3rmInAt0r> openssl req $@ -new -x509 -days 365 -nodes - out /etc/apache2/apache.pem -keyout /etc/apache2/apache.pem
[14:34] <T3rmInAt0r> the $@
[14:34] <Guest10387> what is it for?
[14:34] <T3rmy> openssl req $@ -new -x509 -days 365 -nodes - out /etc/apache2/apache.pem -keyout /etc/apache2/apache.pem
[14:34] <T3rmy> what is it for?
[14:35]  * sorush20 Sorush is back.
[14:35] <eagles0513875> do i have to have samba installed to access a shared folder thats on a windows box
[14:35] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:35] <genii> eagles0513875: No, just smbclient
[14:35] <BluesKaj> oops
[14:35] <BluesKaj> :)
[14:36] <eagles0513875> ok genii ty
[14:36] <BluesKaj> genii , I thought smbclient was samba
[14:36] <genii> eagles0513875: np
[14:37] <genii> BluesKaj: smbclient comes by default installed, but samba is a full suite which is smb server as well
[14:37] <genii> AFK a few mins
[14:39] <BluesKaj> yeah genii , I've been accessing wifes shared folders (windows vista pc) with konq and , smb:// , in the addressbar
[14:42] <eagles0513875> !mp3
[14:42] <eagles0513875> what pkg do i need to play mp3's on amarok
[14:43] <eagles0513875> !libxine1
[14:43] <eagles0513875> !info libxine1
[14:43] <eagles0513875> im issing something here amarok doesnt want to play mp3's for me
[14:45] <shig> hello
[14:45] <eagles0513875> !hi | shig
[14:47] <shig> Recently, kubuntu was used for the first time.
[14:48] <shig> I think that it is a distribution that
[14:48] <shig> was able to be used easily
[14:49] <shig> coolly, and to be improved.
[15:02] <^^scott^^> am I here?
[15:02] <genii> Yes
[15:02] <l0newolf> no you're there
[15:02] <^^scott^^> nice
[15:02] <^^scott^^> thanks
[15:02] <l0newolf> anyone here use compiz a lot?
[15:03] <l0newolf> compiz-fusion specifically, not the kde one
[15:07] <Phlogi> what can I do if this update tool does not launch?
[15:09] <Phlogi> step 6 does not happen to me
[15:10] <genii> Phlogi: Step 6 of what series of steps, and what are these steps supposed to be for?
[15:10] <Phlogi> of the upgrade process to Itrepid
[15:11] <Phlogi> damn it
[15:12] <Phlogi> ah you need to run the --distupgrade thing as root... good that the guides does not mention that
[15:15] <genii> Phlogi: Also since 8.10 is not a long term support release, you will not be presented with something saying there is a newer version to upgrade to, if you are currently on an LTS release, since the tool wants by default to do LTS->LTS
[15:31] <misel_> #join ubuntu-hu
[15:32] <l0newolf> why I can't configure more than 2 desktops?  if I up the amount to 3, 4, whatever and click apply it still says 2 on the pager and doesn't change
[15:47] <vbgunz> is there a helper app that can launch  a window onto a certain desktop without having to create a window setting for it? e.g., desktop 6 -- app -cmds?
[15:48] <manish> genii: Hi, Ever had any experience with gotmail. I want to use hotmail in evolution. and  I think that gotmail is the key. do you know of any other way i can use hotmail in evolution
[15:53] <genii> manish: I haven't bothered to try setting up hotmail to work under evolution, i just use the web interface. But there seems something about it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200408&page=1
[15:55] <manish> genii: actually as i told you yesterday that my net is really slow hence i use client. Now i have installed gotmail using terminal as you suggested yesterday. Now i need to configure a file in gotmail folder but i dont know where is the folder installed. Could you help me find that atleast
[15:56] <vbgunz> in kde3 I used to be able to launch a window and give it a caption or a title. in kde4 I cannot do this with some apps anymore... is there a way to force this behavior OR better, simply launch an app onto a certain desktop without having to enter it into window settings?
[15:56] <manish> genii: and the page you just suggested doesnot work for me. It says port ## is already used by some other server and i need to configure it manually. Since i dont know how to do that so i have given it up
[15:59] <ubuntu-dron> good evening
[15:59] <ubuntu-dron> any info on kde 4.2 beta 1 in kubuntu repos?
[16:02] <genii> manish: gotmail appears to be a perl script. If you issue "man gotmail" it gives you examples of the syntax to use to configure it
[16:03] <genii> manish: According to the manpage, it's config file is     ~/.gotmailrc
[16:04] <manish> genii: cant find that file
[16:05] <genii> manish: Since it begins with a period EG: "."              it is normally hidden
[16:06] <genii> manish: ls -a ~/.gotmailrc                        will show it if it exists yet
[16:11] <manish> genii: please can you assist me in using gotmail
[16:12] <genii> manish: Did you yet read the manpage of it as I suggested by doing the: man gotmail                 ?
[16:12] <genii> manish: It seems fairly straightforward
[16:12] <manish> genii: yes but did not understand a bit
[16:12] <manish> i mean how do i use that
[16:12] <eagles0513875> geni
[16:12] <manish> i typed gotmail - u -p
[16:13] <sigp239> Is there any way to upgrade to KDE 4.2 beta 1?
[16:13] <eagles0513875> genii what audio player do you use
[16:13] <manish> but it still gives the same op
[16:14] <manish> genii: when i open gedit ~/.gotmail a blank page opens up
[16:14] <sigp239> Anyone else have problems with the rendering of http://www.dogpile.com/
[16:15] <vbgunz> anyone know why okular used to open up chm documents but it seems chm is no longer supported? I have the extra backends, is chm dead in okular now?
[16:16] <genii> manish: That would be something like:   gotmail -u myhotmailname  -p MyPaSsW0rD
[16:16] <genii> manish: Usually configuration files like this of ending in "rc" do not get made until at least first time the application they belong to runs
[16:17] <manish> ok
[16:17] <manish> so what do i do to tun the app
[16:17] <genii> manish: tun?
[16:18] <manish> genii: I got the file at /usr/share/doc/gotmail/examples/sample.gotmailrc. now i need to edit it to put my user name and password
[16:18] <manish> so after this what do i do
[16:18] <sigp239> Is there any way to upgrade to KDE 4.2 beta 1?
[16:19] <tomaz> sigp239: are you a developer?
[16:19] <Guest87066> does somebody know why plasma bugs when i open my openffice? and why the system tray widget gets bug when it is resized ?
[16:20] <genii> manish: If you specified some folder in there to put the hotmail you get, then just then rin gotmail, then after look in the folder
[16:20] <genii> rin->run
[16:21] <turetta-brazil> does somebody know why plasma bugs when i open my openffice? and why the system tray widget gets bug when it is resized ? i am using kde4
[16:21] <tomaz> turetta-brazil: doesn't happen here.
[16:21] <manish> genii: as suggested in the file i have put my username and password and changed the name of the file to .gotmailrc and placed it in my home directory. now How do i specify a folder for putting hotmail mails. and how do i run the app
[16:22] <tomaz> did you upgraded to latest  packages?
[16:22] <turetta-brazil> tomaz yes i am using the latest pakgs
[16:22] <genii> manish: Running the app would be:          gotmail
[16:22] <tomaz> turetta-brazil: I really  don't know, and it really doesn't happen here.
[16:22] <genii> manish: If in the config file for specifying mail directory, dunno. On commandline the manpage howeer says to use: --folder-dir /my/dir
[16:23] <genii> Work, AFK
[16:23] <sigp239> tomaz:  No I am not a developer
[16:23] <turetta-brazil> tomaz: ok im thinkin the problem can be with my Nv drivers tks
[16:24] <vbgunz> so Kubuntu doesn't compile okular with chm support? is there a way to get it without jumping through loops for it?
[16:24] <tomaz> sigp239: beta packages are for developers or experienced  users, they are not ready  for public yet.
[16:24] <JontheEchidna> turetta-brazil: it's a known bug in the nvidia drivers, though I think it's fixed in the latest 180.07 beta drivers
[16:24] <tomaz> sigp239: do you *really* wanna try them on kubuntu? ( it's like , everything could crash, your  daugther could got pragnent )
[16:25] <sigp239> tomaz:  Well KDE 4.1 is "beta" even though it is tagged as a stable release.  I think KDE 4.2 is probably more stable than 4.1
[16:25] <tomaz> sigp239: kde 4.1 is not beta, the 4.1.3 is stable enougth. but 4.2 there's lots of bleeding edge things that still have rougth edges.
[16:25] <sigp239> tomaz:  Yea I wanna try it.  Worst case scenario I'll just boot to the console, remove kde desktop and install gnome
[16:26] <tomaz> but if you really wanna try, there's one way, but it's a hard path.
[16:26] <tomaz> are you ready to follow that road,  young padawan?
[16:26] <sigp239> tomaz:  uh, yea
[16:27] <tomaz> sigp239: you  need to get the sources and build it yourself. all the information is on techbase.kde.org, and I can answer your  questions since i do that everyday.
[16:27] <sigp239> tomaz:  Nobody has packaged it yet for kubuntu?
[16:28] <tomaz> sigp239: exactly, it's the first beta, there are no guarantees, so no packagers wanna take the blame to crash the  system ;D
[16:28] <tomaz> I'm on 87% of my daily kdeelibs compilation
[16:29] <eagles0513875> genii :)
[16:30] <manish> genii:what ever i put i only see the man page in the terminal
[16:30] <genii> manish: To exit the manpage hit Q
[16:33] <manish> genii: i exitted the man page but when evet i type a commnad starting with gotmail all i see is the man page
[16:34] <azzurra> any italian ?
[16:34] <genii> !it | azzurra
[16:34] <manish> genii: i want to access hotmail account on my evolution so i need to straight things out you know
[16:34] <azzurra> ty
[16:34] <azzurra> bye
[16:35] <genii> manish: When you say you exited the manpage, you mean the prompt returned to something like:   yourname@yourhotname
[16:35] <genii> :?
[16:35] <manish> genii: yes
[16:36] <manish> gneii: so what do i do now. Please help me out of this
[16:39] <genii> manish: To make sure you are in shell, do ctrl-c a couple times
[16:40] <genii> manish: Perhaps then issue:    gotmail -c ~/.gotmailrc
[16:43] <manish> genii: i think i got it to work using gotmail itself but the op says " Page doesn't contain any form action field "
[16:44] <genii> manish: I have no idea what that means
[16:45] <manish> ok thnaks genii got to go now will catch up later
[16:46]  * I Sorush is away: Gone away for now
[16:48] <eagles0513875> can one use ntfs3g with a samba share
[16:50] <faileas> er
[16:50] <faileas> samba shouldn't care about the FS
[16:51] <genii> eagles0513875: server message block (samba) uses it's own kind of fs
[16:51] <eagles0513875> faileas i am unable to play any of my mp3 which r on vista box but locally on my laptop i can play them
[16:51] <eagles0513875> genii besides linux being vindicated i am also vindicated lol
[16:51] <genii> hence existence of mount.smbfs for instance....
[16:52] <tomaz> eagles0513875: do you have the gstreamer plugins installed? or the xine ones?
[16:52] <faileas> eagles0513875: more likely that permissions on the computer the files are saved from are incorrect
[16:52] <faileas> oh, and you may need additional files for mp3 support
[16:54] <jewel> hey, can anyone help me with virtualization?
[16:55] <jewel> hey, can anyone help me with virtualization?
[16:56] <bobdobolina> sorry
[16:56] <bobdobolina> on my other computer it forces me to go to low graphics mode because its the only way to turn the comp on then only kde sessions work and ubuntu is scrambled
[16:57] <faileas> jewel: using what?
[16:59]  * sorush20 Sorush is back.
[17:00] <jewel> faileas, i am new to this virtual stuff, just wanted to know what way to go-- wanting to install windows inside ubuntu
[17:01] <faileas> jewel: I had it working pretty well with the nonfree version of virtualbox.
[17:03] <jewel> faileas: i just installed virtual machine manager and what to do next? i am now downloading emu and qemu launcher.
[17:03] <faileas> jewel: installation was fairly easy, add a repo, use apt to install, run the wizard for making a new VM, mount an installer cd., and install ;)
[17:03] <Guest24170> porq te vas
[17:04] <Guest24170> hola
[17:04] <jewel> faileas: what repo to add? wouldn't qemu do the job?
[17:05] <Guest24170> hay alguien aqui
[17:06] <jewel> jewel: will i have to install driver inside the host system?
[17:06] <genii> !es
[17:06] <Guest24170> what
[17:07] <jewel> faileas: will i have to install driver inside the host system?
[17:07] <genii> Guest24170: For Spanish:    /join #ubuntu-es       or:   /join #kubuntu-es
[17:08] <faileas> jewel: not totally necessary. with virtualbox and vmware it adds features though
[17:09] <bobdobolina> virtualbox is sweet
[17:09] <bobdobolina> i mean its kinda fun when i tried it
[17:10] <Guest24170> hello
[17:10] <jewel> faileas: will i have to install driver inside the guest os?
[17:11] <Guest24170> jhirlyn
[17:11] <faileas> jewel: erf.for the host, the installtion of the VM software will take care of it
[17:11] <bobdobolina> virtualbox has options to decide what driver it looks for in the host and the guest.  i chose to let it do OSS for ubuntu and ac97 for xp
[17:11] <jewel> i have problem installing the graphics card. its a sis chipset
[17:11] <bobdobolina> oh i was thinking audio sorry
[17:12] <Guest24170> no entiendo nada
[17:12] <bobdobolina> graphics i think it takes some memory to make a virtual graphics card
[17:12] <faileas> the guest dosesn't need it but its an option to make things run better more moothly. drivers are for virtualised hardware though
[17:12] <bobdobolina> like you choose how much memory to alocate to graphics
[17:13] <bobdobolina> what would i set my virtual graphics memory at?
[17:13] <jewel> how much of memory should i use?
[17:13] <bobdobolina> well hes gone faileas
[17:13] <Guest24170> aja
[17:14] <jewel> mm
[17:15] <Guest24170> halguien habla español aqui
[17:15] <jewel> i am downloading virtualbox
[17:15] <bobdobolina> its not 2 bad to figure out
[17:15] <genii> Guest24170: Inglés solamente adentro aquí. Español adentro #kubuntu-es o #ubuntu-es
[17:15] <Guest24170> un pero tu hablas español
[17:16] <Guest24170> solo dime
[17:16] <bobdobolina> just think closely about it i think you choose dynamic size so it will get bigger as u use more memory rather than give it a small limited part of your hdd
[17:16] <Guest24170> si
[17:16] <bobdobolina> and like choose half your physical memory i choose to watch sysmanager while it booted to see if i could get it as high as possible without eating my hol gig
[17:17] <bobdobolina> whole
[17:17] <Guest24170> pero si
[17:17] <Guest24170> es posible
[17:17] <genii> Guest24170: Para incorporar el #kubuntu-es haga /join #kubuntu-es   ...   #ubuntu-es haga /join #ubuntu-es
[17:17] <eagles0513875> genii:  what ports does samba  use
[17:17] <eagles0513875> genii:  tu hablas espanol lol
[17:18] <genii> eagles0513875: No, babelfish does
[17:18] <Guest24170> pero dime si tu puedes hablar español y me salgo de aka
[17:18] <Guest24170> porfa
[17:18] <Guest24170> vor
[17:18] <eagles0513875> whose babelfish
[17:18] <jewel> well, one more thing , what about using printer from the guest os?
[17:18] <eagles0513875> Guest24170:  solo ingles aqui mi amigo
[17:19] <eagles0513875> !es | Guest24170
[17:19] <genii> Guest24170: El inglés de la lengua adentro aquí exclusivamente. No persista con español aquí satisfacen.
[17:19] <Guest24170> pero ustedes pueden hablar español eso es lo unico q quiero saber si
[17:19] <Guest24170> diganme
[17:19] <sigp239> What version of GNOME comes with Ubuntu 8.10?
[17:19] <Ursinha> sigp239, 2.24?
[17:19] <eagles0513875> si pero tambien hablo ingles pero en este canale yo hablo ingles solomente
[17:20] <genii> sigp239: Perhaps they'll know in #ubuntu rather than here in #kubuntu
[17:21] <bobdobolina> i dont know sorry jewel i havent tried printing but its pretty easy to work with all of your services and if its not, check deeper in to the settings of virtualbox when it is shutdown
[17:21] <genii> Guest24170: In here use only English
[17:21] <Guest24170> ok my name is jhirlyn,Im twelve
[17:22] <jewel> okk
[17:22] <Guest24170> from venezuela
[17:24] <Guest24170> im pleasedto meet you too
[17:25] <Guest24170> im pleased to meet you too
[17:25] <Guest24170> solo quieria q supieran eso
[17:26] <brama> guys, I'm in a pickle here
[17:26] <brama> and google doesn't seem to be helpful hwere
[17:26] <brama>  parport0: cannot grant exclusive access for device ppdev0
[17:26] <Guest24170> q me quieres decir con google
[17:27] <brama> all perms are AOK
[17:27] <Guest24170> alquin me puede enseñar inglish
[17:28] <brama> !ubotu
[17:28] <brama> !ubotu tell Guest24170 about es
[17:28] <Guest24170> mira me meto hay y no me contesta nadie
[17:28] <brama> !es | Guest24170
[17:28] <Guest24170> ya lo ise
[17:29] <Guest24170> y nadie quiere hablar conmigo
[17:29] <Guest24170> no me responden
[17:31] <Guest24170> porq no responden ustedes apenas tengo 12 años porfavor
[17:32] <Guest24170> soy una niña apenas
[17:33] <linux_> #kubuntu
[17:33] <eagles05> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh
[17:34] <Guest24170> a q
[17:34] <Guest24170> ???
[17:34] <eagles05> Guest24170 en este cana solo hablan ingles por favor
[17:34] <eagles05> !es | Guest24170
[17:34] <eagles05> hablar espanol in estos canales
[17:34] <eagles05> comprendes
[17:34] <brama> eagles05: that guy is not responding to anything
[17:34] <Guest24170> me duele lo q dises pero es mejor q me balla verdad q si
[17:34] <Guest24170> ?
[17:34] <eagles05> no comprendo
[17:35] <Guest24170> te estoy disiendo q me duele q me trates hasi
[17:35] <brama> eagles0513875: are there any ops here?
[17:35] <Guest24170> pero creo q es mejor q me balla sierto
[17:35] <brama> !ops
[17:35] <stdin> brama: yes?
[17:36] <jpds> !en | Guest24170
[17:36] <jpds> !es | Guest24170
[17:36] <brama> stdin: we are trying to get Guest24170 to ubuntu-es
[17:36] <Guest24170> disculpen si cause algunas molestias
[17:36] <Guest24170> PERDONNNNNNNNNNN
[17:36] <brama> stdin: but the guy is completely ignoring everything
[17:36] <stdin> they are in #kubuntu-es
[17:36] <jpds> Guest24170: Pone: /join #kubuntu-es
[17:37] <brama> sed s/ubuntu/kubuntu/ ;)
[17:38] <Guest24170> sorry
[17:38] <Guest24170> SORRY
[17:39] <dwidmann> Hmm, I wonder if there are any decent audio players with a client/server sort of setup....
[17:39] <Guest24170> ok me largo
[17:39] <tomaz> dwidmann: xmms2
[17:39] <dwidmann> keyword decent
[17:39] <stdin> dwidmann: vlc has that IIRC, and it has a Qt GUI by default now :)
[17:40] <dwidmann> Hmm, I have vlc installed already ... I've only used it for video though. i guess I'll look there first
[17:41] <stdin> Media -> Streaming
[17:43] <dwidmann> stdin: I think I see what you're saying ... but I guess, how can I say ... erm, something like quassel, except with music :)
[17:44] <STREENG> HI
[17:44] <Fieldy> hello, i keep recieving this error in adept when applying changes "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages." how can i find out more about this error?
[17:44] <stdin> dwidmann: something like icecast?
[17:44] <dwidmann> tomaz, stdin: looks like, according to the package description, xmms2 might fit the bill
[17:44] <dwidmann> stdin: what's icecast?
[17:45] <stdin> Fieldy: open Konsole and run "sudo apt-get -f install"
[17:45] <stdin> !info icecast2
[17:45] <chris___> could someone tell me why i am getting the error "Permission denied" when typing "sudo echo \"deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/phobie/ubuntu intrepid main\" >  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ppa-phobie.list" in the terminal
[17:45] <Fieldy> stdin: okay
[17:45] <dwidmann> stdin: perhaps we're misunderstanding ... not really looking for a streaming server.
[17:45] <stdin> chris___: because you're doing it wrong: echo "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/phobie/ubuntu intrepid main" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ppa-phobie.list
[17:45] <sigp239> How do I do a minimal install of kubuntu?
[17:45] <dwidmann> stdin: just a disconnected interface
[17:46] <LjL> !info mpd | dwidmann
[17:46] <LjL> dwidmann: not many KDE clients around that i'm aware of, though
[17:46] <Fieldy> stdin: ah, /boot is full... odd, i'll look into it
[17:47] <LjL> dwidmann: or to be exact, absolutely none in the repositories (of Hardy at least)
[17:47] <dwidmann> LjL: not seeing any for intrepid either
[17:47] <chris___> stdin: but it works just fine if i am doing something like "sudo echo \"test test test\" >  /home/chris/Desktop/test.list"
[17:48] <LjL> dwidmann: i think kde-apps.org has something, don't remember if packaged decently
[17:48] <chris___> so WHY doesn't it work when trying to write to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ppa-phobie.list
[17:48] <dwidmann> LjL: if it compiles successfully, and has a good interface, it might be worth a thought
[17:48] <chris___> i mean i'm using sudo, so it should work normally
[17:49] <LjL> dwidmann: bzq-84-108-5-129.cablep.bezeqint.net
[17:49] <LjL> dwidmann: err, that's not what i wanted to paste
[17:49] <LjL> dwidmann: http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Clients
[17:51] <dwidmann> LjL: looks like xmms2 could work too, I think I'll try both :)
[17:51]  * dwidmann loves free software
[17:51] <LjL> well, xmms2 is not particularly KDE either...
[17:51] <Fieldy> stdin: thanks, i just had to manually clean up some old stuff in /boot then it had enough space to accomplish what it wanted to. guess i won't make /boot 60M in the future.
[17:51]  * jnw222 loves it to 
[17:52] <dwidmann> LjL: seeing as it has python bindings, I could probably make it a KDE interface though, given sufficient time, effort, and diligence
[17:52] <LjL> dwidmann: oh that's for sure, but then you already have Kanola for a basic Python/KDE interface to MPD too
[17:53] <LjL> (i'm actually amazed at the amount of GTK clients for MPD, and the almost absolute lack of any for KDE)
[17:53] <dwidmann> LjL: yeah, I noticed that
[17:53] <sigp239> How do I do a minimal install of kubuntu?
[17:54] <dwidmann> that's funny, it has a vim client
[17:55] <dwidmann> LjL: looks like there are 6 Qt clients
[17:56] <dwidmann> LjL: most of which don't seem very mature
[17:59] <dwidmann> LjL: hmm, this project looks active, I think I'll try it
[17:59] <dwidmann> http://lowblog.nl/category/qtmpc/
[18:00] <Fieldy> !nvidia
[18:02] <sigp239> How do I remove KDE ?
[18:02] <dwidmann> sigp239: now why would ya wanna do that?
[18:02] <james_> hey
[18:03] <james_> Any one here good with compiz?
[18:05] <dwidmann> james_: I would assume these people would be good with it:
[18:05] <dwidmann> !compiz
[18:05] <JontheEchidna> !puregnome | sigp239
[18:07] <james_> ive got it running well but i can only get a grid of desktops that I can pull away from or zoom in etc. not one solid cube
[18:12] <bv> hello
[18:20] <stdin> chris___: because bash is doing the writing, running as you. so 'echo "test test test" >  /home/chris/Desktop/test.list"' would work too
[18:23] <sigp239> JontheEchidna:  Actually, I want to remove all of KDE and just have a minimal system install.  You know, just the kernel, GNU toolchain, command line utilities.
[18:23] <JontheEchidna> ubuntu-minimal is a metapackage that contains that
[18:26] <sigp239> JontheEchidna: Thanks that is the info I was looking for.  How do I remove everything so I can install ubuntu-minimal?
[18:27] <JontheEchidna> Dunno, I've never had to do that
[18:27] <stdin> removing kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-standard, then "sudo apt-get autoremove" should do it
[18:27] <stdin> though, I have never tried it either
[18:28] <thomas__> hi
[18:28] <g33k> how to set static IP??
[18:28] <thomas__> wie geht
[18:28] <sigp239> !de
[18:28] <stdin> g33k: right-click the network manager -> Edit Connections -> New Connection -> Wired
[18:31] <g33k> stdin is there any graphical guide??
[18:31] <stdin> g33k: I doubt it can be done graphically, as you'll be removing any GUI in the process
[18:33] <dwidmann> LjL: I think I've found a pretty good one, qmpdclient looks usable
[18:35] <g33k> if i set static IP on my computer does this affect to other computers in LAN??
[18:35] <ler_hydra> I'm running 8.10 and I have an annoying issue. If I don't give any form of input to the system then every tenth second (exaclty every tenth) there's about 500ms - 1s of latency on all graphical output
[18:35] <ler_hydra> any ideas?
[18:35] <stdin> g33k: I answered the wrong question earlier. I'm not sure there's a guide. but look in https://help.ubuntu.com/community
[18:36] <ler_hydra> top didn't tell me anything obvious
[18:36] <ler_hydra> and I don't know enough about the system's daemons to know which trigger on an interrupt every 10th second
[18:39] <dwidmann> LjL: hmm, at least it looked it, but I can't seem to figure things out ... I wonder if it's not a me not configuring mpd right issue :\
[18:39] <g33k> If i change ip to static on 1 commputer does it affect to another computers in Local Area Network
[18:39] <g33k> ??
[18:40] <chx> hi. konsole behaves strange: it thinks the terminal is one line taller than then window actually is and it's rather annoying
[18:40] <chx> resizing the window does not help :(
[18:41] <kde42> I have not been able to get desktop sharing to work in kde 4.1 or kde 4.2 beta. It works fine when I am in gnome. in kde 4.x is starts disconnected and I can't seem to connect in any way. any ideas?
[18:43] <kde42> guess not.... back to gnome then
[18:46] <Matrixritter> hi friends
[18:46] <ubuntoil> how do I have to do to install a lib with subversion (libdvdcss) ?
[18:46] <Matrixritter> I have a question related to graphics
[18:47] <Matrixritter> ubuntoil: choose the easy way by using medibuntu rep
[18:47] <dwidmann> LjL: hm, there we go :)
[18:47] <ubuntoil> Matrixritter: well actually the medibuntu repo is activated on my dist but still, I can't rip some of my DVDs...
[18:47] <Matrixritter> can I mix up Nvidia and Ati/AMD graphic cards or will the drivers interfere?
[18:48] <Matrixritter> ubuntoil: you're doing something wrong
[18:48] <Matrixritter> ripping dvds with k9copy is very cool
[18:48] <Matrixritter> and it works nearly out on the box on my pc
[18:48] <ubuntoil> Matrixritter: what would I be wrong..?? I do it with dvd::rip
[18:48] <ubuntoil> *do
[18:49] <Matrixritter> never tried
[18:49] <Matrixritter> did you install libdvdcss2 ?
[18:49] <ubuntoil> which is kind of a very good soft.
[18:49] <ubuntoil> Matrixritter: yes, I did....
[18:49] <Matrixritter> hum, very myterious
[18:49] <Matrixritter> and watchingdvds is no issue?
[18:49] <ubuntoil> also dvdnav and dvdread
[18:49] <ubuntoil> Matrixritter: watching id fine
[18:50] <Matrixritter> maybe dvd copy protection is making problems
[18:50] <ubuntoil> let me try again...
[18:50] <ubuntoil> Matrixritter: I guess and that's why I was thinking about upgrading my libdvdcss...
[18:50] <Matrixritter> that won't help
[18:50] <Matrixritter> modern copy protection irritates your dvd drive
[18:51] <Matrixritter> this is not related to any libs
[18:51] <Matrixritter> but there are solutions running under windows
[18:52] <Matrixritter> to handle the protected stuff
[18:52] <ubuntoil> Matrixritter: well, actually, I can't even read it. might come from a zone pb, I bought my computer in the USA
[18:52] <ubuntoil> Matrixritter: don't have and don't want any windows stuff, don't be rude ;-)
[18:52] <Matrixritter> ah, there are issues with the zone
[18:53] <ubuntoil> Matrixritter: may I tell my system to forget about that S#$@ ?
[18:53] <Matrixritter> as far as I know it´s hardoced into the firmware of the dvd drive
[18:54] <Matrixritter> or is it wrong? any Pros here knowing about that
[18:54] <estres> any one who can help inspanish?
[18:54] <ubuntoil> Matrixritter: I hate that zone BullS###
[18:55] <minterior> hi all
[18:56] <Matrixritter> man, i google for solution
[18:56] <Matrixritter> wohoo
[18:56] <Matrixritter> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#Setting DVD Region Codes
[18:56] <Matrixritter> shit, you have to repair link manually
[18:57] <LjL> !es | estres
[18:57] <LjL> !language
[18:58] <ubuntoil> Matrixritter: thank you so much man....I'm gonna ty this right now
[18:58] <minterior> can I install Kubuntu 8.10 from the cdrom and choose the packages (or grouped ones) I want?
[19:01] <g33k> If i change ip to static IP on 1 commputer does it affect to another computers in Local Area Network ??
[19:02] <Memphisto> hi, I just wonder, is kubuntu ok for use as a server?
[19:03] <dwidmann> Memphisto: You'd probably want to use the ubuntu-server CD for that, wouldn't you?
[19:03] <dwidmann> Memphisto: granted, yes, it would function just like ubuntu-server, but I don't think you'd need all the other stuff (you know, fancy things like GUIs, etc)
[19:04] <Memphisto> I like to use desktop... not only text
[19:06] <Memphisto> dwidmann: I've only been using linux some months now
[19:07] <shovi> How come Kate dosnt save the addons and extensions etc whenever I close and reopen?
[19:08] <shovi> what am I doing wrong
[19:09] <minterior> dwidmann: do you know if Kubuntu installation with Kubuntu desktop cdrom let you choose which packages do you want?
[19:12] <Memphisto> which linux distro is best (with graphic desktop) is the best for server?
[19:14] <stdin> Memphisto: #kubuntu is not the right place to ask "what is the best distro", try ##linux
[19:15] <Memphisto> ok
[19:16] <minterior> can I install Kubuntu 8.10 from the cdrom and choose the packages (or grouped ones) that I want?
[19:17] <stdin> minterior: no, there is only one standard install available
[19:17] <minterior> ok, thank you
[19:17] <stdin> you could install the server edition then add the packages you want after
[19:18] <shovi> How come Kate dosnt save the addons and extensions etc whenever I close and reopen?
[19:19] <minterior> stdin: oks, I will try.
[19:21] <raul> alguém do brasil?
[19:21] <stdin> !br | raul
[19:34] <ubuntoil> Matrixritter: my dvdPlayer is region 1...dvd are region 2, some are working some are not...thank you anyway
[19:37] <thomas__> hi
[19:38] <thomas__> wie geht
[19:41] <thomas__> was ist
[19:43] <tomaz> Where do I configure the sessions that I  have ? ( kde.session, gnome.session and so on)
[19:45] <Matrixritter> ubuntoil: sry, was away for some time
[19:45] <cenuij> can I skip cheking all these apt sources on install??
[19:45] <Matrixritter> no success in changing region code?
[19:45] <malharhak> Hi
[19:46] <cenuij> it's a royal pain in the ass to wait an extra 10 mins while the installer figures out what it should be doing with apt
[19:46] <cenuij> can i pass an option to skip this?
[19:47] <malharhak> Yeah, just shutdown the computer :p
[19:47] <Matrixritter> lolol
[19:47] <cenuij> anything more enlightened?
[19:47] <cenuij> or should i expect this from kubuntu chan?
[19:48] <Matrixritter> i didn't get what your problem is?
[19:48] <cenuij> installer takes too long while it checks online sources
[19:48] <malharhak> Sorry, you asked too much for me, and yer, I didn't get too
[19:48] <cenuij> i'd like to skip this and get things installed from installation media
[19:48] <malharhak> Are you downloading something, it could just be a lag problem
[19:48] <cenuij> ¬_¬
[19:49] <Matrixritter> man, just have no internet connection and everything is fine
[19:49] <Matrixritter> your problem is normally a feature
[19:49] <cenuij> if it was a lag problem i'd phone my frickin ISP
[19:49] <Matrixritter> a setup which installs newest versions of software
[19:50] <Matrixritter> man, this is amazing feature and you're whining about your slow speed internet connection
[19:50] <cenuij> what this amazing feature that connects to the net without my permission?
[19:50] <cenuij> wow, amazing
[19:50] <Matrixritter> idiot, plug out wire
[19:50] <Matrixritter> and no connection
[19:50] <Matrixritter> simpe, ya?
[19:51] <cenuij> wait, i need to physically alter my network before i install an OS?
[19:51] <cenuij> are you sopme kind of fucking moron?
[19:51] <Matrixritter> no
[19:51] <cenuij> if you dont know the answer to the question, shut the fuck up
[19:51] <JontheEchidna> !ohmy | cenuij
[19:51] <malharhak> It's a normal thing that it connects to the net to download last versions of softwares... If you don't want it, don't connect, Matrix is right
[19:52] <cenuij> so your saying that ther is no way to install kunbuntu without a net connection?
[19:52] <Matrixritter> in my opinion there is a way to forbid internet access in setup
[19:52] <Matrixritter> oh man
[19:52] <cenuij> or your saying that if you are connected, while you try to install, you MUST wait while the intaller connects to somwhere i dont trust?
[19:52] <Matrixritter> you can install without internet
[19:53] <Matrixritter> if you don't trust why do you put in cd
[19:53] <Matrixritter> ???
[19:53] <Matrixritter> your hd could be blown up at the point where it comes to internet connection
[19:53] <malharhak> Yeah, just plug out the wire while you're installing
[19:53] <cenuij> perhaps becuase i dont expect software to try and connect to the net wihout my permission, and thatś why i install it first in a VM
[19:53] <Matrixritter> oh man
[19:54] <VistaUser> how do i find xorg.conf?
[19:54] <Matrixritter> just disable network interface in vm
[19:54] <JontheEchidna> VistaUser: it's in /etc/X11
[19:54] <dr_willis> VistaUser,  'locate FILENAME'
[19:54] <VistaUser> ty
[19:54] <cenuij> Matrixritter: so I shoutl again, disable something, just to get kubunto installed?
[19:55] <cenuij> Matrixritter: your seriously suggesting i disable networking?
[19:55] <dr_willis> That sounds like what he suggested to me...
[19:55] <cenuij> Matrixritter: do you know or not, if there is an option to skip update checking on intall?
[19:56] <cenuij> Matrixritter: it seems you dont know for sure either way
[19:56] <VistaUser> i located
[19:56] <VistaUser> now how i get to it?
[19:56] <cenuij> Matrixritter: so again, if you dont know for sure, either way, please stfu
[19:56] <malharhak> While I installed ubuntu, if I remember well, there waas one, but... Not sure
[19:56] <dr_willis> Ive never noticed such an option.   The forums may have some info on that cenuij.
[19:56] <dr_willis> VistaUser,  depends on what you wish to DO with it.
[19:56] <malharhak> And for Kubuntu, it must be the same
[19:56] <cenuij> dr_willis: ok thanks, i'll check
[19:56] <VistaUser> i want to look at it to see the configurations
[19:57] <VistaUser> i am setting up a new monitor
[19:57] <VistaUser> but it dont show up
[19:57] <dr_willis> clarify what you mean by 'new' - In most cases X should autoconfigure that stuff these days
[19:59] <VistaUser> yah but my main monitor broken on laptop and my other monitor and everytime i boot up it says something abot over ranged
[19:59] <VistaUser> so i wannt to change resolution
[20:01] <dr_willis> some laptops can be a pain. - You mean to saty  You wish to enable a 2nd monitor on a laptop.
[20:02] <VistaUser> yah
[20:02] <dr_willis> Some laptops ive seen have those special function keys that kick in the 2nd monitor.. some have it but it dont work under Linux.  :(
[20:02] <dr_willis> had one that defaulted to the 2nd if it was plugged in...
[20:02] <dr_willis> Its amazing the range of  'ways 2nd monitors work' with laptops.
[20:03] <VistaUser> oooo i was going to try fedora is there a way to partition drive so i can save all this info and try fedora on a different part of the hard drive
[20:04] <VistaUser> i wanted to actually back up my xorg.conf because it took my quite a while to make it work through a second monitor
[20:04] <VistaUser> and i didnt want to lose that info or then i have to spend alot of hrs fixing again
[20:07] <VistaUser> dr_willis u know how?
[20:09] <malharhak> Can't you put this file on an external disk/cd/dvd/anything
[20:09] <VistaUser> yes but i dont want to save everything
[20:09] <VistaUser> just that one file
[20:10] <VistaUser> everything else is a breeze to fix i have it in my trusty note book ( the one u hand write in lol)
[20:10] <Guest123> does anyone knows openemr?
[20:11] <malharhak> That case... I dunno, sorry
[20:12] <antoranz> is it possible to send a backtrace from gdb to a file?
[20:15] <SSJ_GZ> antoranz: http://developer.apple.com/DOCUMENTATION/DeveloperTools/gdb/gdb/gdb_toc.html#TOC13
[20:17] <stof> hello
[20:17] <genii> !hello | stof
[20:19] <stof> est ce que je peut savoir c'est quoi cela, je vient d'installer kubuntu  et voila je me suis retrouver ici :D
[20:19] <aboSamoor> after upgrading to from kernel -19 to kernel -22 the suspend is not working, any idea how can I figure what is the error ?
[20:21] <stof> are you here men
[20:22] <genii> stof: French in #kubuntu-fr or #ubuntu-fr svp
[20:23] <stof> ok thank you genii, so here is just for english people ?
[20:23] <genii> stof: Yes. If you can ask or state your issue in English here, we are happy to try and assist
[20:23] <dwidmann> antoranz: an easy way of doing it would be just to save Konsole's scrollback ... that's how I did it last time I needed to
[20:25] <stof> ok tanks you, and see you soon good Bye
[20:26] <francisc1701> hi everyone!
[20:28] <dr_willis> VistaUser,  backup the xorg.conf ? its just a file.. copy it somewhere and name it xorg.conf.backup or somthing like that
[20:28] <mobile> ahoj
[20:28] <VistaUser> ok
[20:29] <ubuntu__> wow
[20:29] <francisc1701> I have a intel x3100 graphics card (965 chipset) and I was wondering how I could tell if hardy is using the intel driver or vesa
[20:29] <antoranz> dwidmann: I know that.... and I'd do it... unfortunately I want to get the backtrace of kate when it kills kde. I got the debugger waiting for me in the VTs
[20:29] <VistaUser> when i open xorg.conf its empty
[20:30] <francisc1701> xorg.conf doesn't say
[20:30] <dr_willis> VistaUser,  i would imagine you are doing a typo, or somthing basic wrong.
[20:30] <dr_willis> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:30] <VistaUser> i am using terminal and using command gedit xong.conf
[20:31] <dr_willis> are you in the /etc/X11 directory? you are using the proper name? no spelling mistakes?
[20:31] <dr_willis> why do you want to 'edit' it when you asked how to back it up?
[20:31] <VistaUser> i did spelling mistake
[20:31] <VistaUser> i need to get to it to copy the file dont i?
[20:31] <dr_willis> Your use of the term 'get to it' is totally invalid
[20:31] <Guest123> is there any md5 decoder for ubuntu?
[20:31] <dr_willis> theres no 'getting to' the file
[20:31] <dr_willis> its at /etc/X11/ you do whatever you want with the file
[20:32] <VistaUser> ok ty
[20:32] <dr_willis> cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /path/to/whatever/xorg.conf.backup
[20:32] <genii> Guest123: md5 hashing is a one-way process. So no
[20:32] <DaskreecH> Konichiwa
[20:32] <VistaUser> ooo ok
[20:32] <dr_willis> Bash and Linux Basics. :)
[20:33] <DaskreecH> Hi VistaUser
[20:33]  * dr_willis wonders what a md5 decoder would  supposed to do exactly
[20:33] <VistaUser> hey do i know u?
[20:33] <DaskreecH> VistaUser: Likely not
[20:33] <VistaUser> lol ok hey
[20:34] <DaskreecH> Hay-ay!
[20:34] <Guest123> genii,  what does this mean?
[20:35] <VistaUser> lol
[20:35] <VistaUser> i gtg
[20:35] <DaskreecH> Catch you later
[20:35] <VistaUser> i gtg
[20:35] <Guest123> dr_willis, it decodes
[20:35] <Guest123> is it so hard?
[20:35] <VistaUser> ty dr_willis for all ur help
[20:35] <DaskreecH> Guest123: Md5 only works in one direction. YOu cannot use a MD5 sum and get back what you got the MD5sum of
[20:36] <Guest123> DaskreecH, so is it unpenetrable ?
[20:36] <Guest123> DaskreecH, so is it unpenetratable
[20:36] <DaskreecH> Guest123: For some meaning of that word. Yes
[20:37] <Guest123> but If I have a database in mysql and I dont remember the pass
[20:37] <Guest123> how am I supposed to get it back?
[20:37] <DaskreecH> Guest123: remember your password?
[20:37] <Guest123> except this
[20:37] <HappySmileMan> You can run a dictionary or brute-force attack on the hash, if it's a short password or a dictionary word this will basically get it by trial and error
[20:38] <DaskreecH> Guest123: You should have a function that allows you to overwrite your passwordx
[20:38] <HappySmileMan> But if it was a good password there's basically no recovering it
[20:38] <Guest123> HappySmileMan,
[20:38] <Guest123> I know all these staff.
[20:39] <Guest123> but in windows there is a decoder for hash tables
[20:39] <genii> Guest123: A trick which may work for you is to look at your bash history file, which should have in it the password you set whenever it was
[20:39] <Guest123> in kubuntu isn't there any similar?
[20:39] <DaskreecH> Guest123: it's doing the same thing that HappySmileMan just said
[20:40] <HappySmileMan> mdcrack runs in wine, would probably be fastest one
[20:40] <Guest123> ok the name of the programme?
[20:40] <genii> Guest123: There are brute-force methods if you are desperate
[20:40] <DaskreecH> genii: not always You can drop to the mysql subcommand line and do all commands there
[20:40] <HappySmileMan> I'd say just go to some site with an online database and search for hack
[20:40] <HappySmileMan> I think milworm has one? milworm.com?
[20:40] <genii> Guest123: However, first look at: ~/.bash_history        and see if it has the line you used originally to set the password
[20:40] <HappySmileMan> Not sure the exact URL, or if it's any good, but I've heard of it
[20:41] <genii> DaskreecH: Can start it up without loading the tables or so, eys
[20:41] <Guest123> ok,
[20:41] <Guest123> thanx for the advices
[20:41] <Guest123> something more
[20:41] <Guest123> how may I see
[20:41] <DaskreecH> Guest123: Or overwrite it with the mysql root account
[20:41] <Guest123> if my apache server is visible through the internet?
[20:41] <DaskreecH> genii: yes you can
[20:42] <Guest123> (with nmap somehow)
[20:42] <DaskreecH> Guest123: Try and load something from your external IP
[20:42] <genii> Guest123: Alternate way which we are now discussing: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql/171366
[20:43] <genii> Guest123: To see the bash_history file:    less ~/.bash_history                    use q to quit
[20:43] <Guest123> ok I got it
[20:44] <Guest123> about nmap?
[20:44] <Guest123> how may I scan my firewall?
[20:44] <dr_willis> I would say try some of those Online scanner web sites. You dont normally nmap from inside the firewall to test the firewall.
[20:45] <Guest123> ok , but if I would like to use it?
[20:46] <dr_willis> use it to do what exactly?
[20:48] <DawnLight> hello. is partition encryption possible to set up during installation?
[20:48] <dr_willis> I belive it is DawnLight  but i think that may require the alternative installer cd.. Ive never looked into it.
[20:48] <dr_willis> But i recall it mentioned as a 'new' feature
[20:48] <dr_willis> !encryption
[20:49] <DawnLight> no way... i've just finished downloading the live cd
[20:49] <Guest123> dr_willis,
[20:49] <dr_willis> !encrypt
[20:49] <DawnLight> !luks
[20:49] <Guest123> so se if there is any port open in my site
[20:49] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemOnIntrepid
[20:50] <dr_willis> Guest123,  you dont want to be scanning from 'inside' the firewall. use a portscanner web site to test your system
[20:50] <DawnLight> thanks
[20:50]  * genii hands dr_willis a coffee and some cookies
[20:51] <dr_willis> Yum
[20:51] <dr_willis> :P
[20:52] <genii> :)
[21:01] <owen_> Hi guys, just installed Kubuntu and the audio is really low even when cranked up to full on alsamixer, tried fiddling with the "options snd-hda-intel model=" in the file, but no luck, any ideas?
[21:01] <owen_> card is an Intel Hda btw
[21:02] <cenuij> owen_: crack all channel up to max, often for your sound output gear the pcm channel is the "main" channel
[21:03] <owen_> pcm is all the way
[21:03] <dr_willis> 'this knob goes to 11' :)
[21:03] <cenuij> ;)
[21:04] <owen_> I've noticed that BBC Iplayer goes up to 11, not sure if that was a joke on behalf of the programmers tho :P
[21:04] <cenuij> haha
[21:04] <cenuij> yes, yes it is
[21:05] <dr_willis> a Gag the never dies.  and becomes part of the culture
[21:06] <dr_willis> Hmm.. I just saw a web page that said vlc was now a qt4 application.. I never noticed that...
[21:06] <dwidmann> dr_willis: has been for a while now.
[21:06] <cenuij> does that mean vlc wont break everyones project by runing a silly repo?
[21:07] <dr_willis> looks the same to me.. :) but i guess that could be  its theme..
[21:07] <dr_willis> I guess i never got the memo.
[21:07] <cenuij> i can abstract the theme, and put the traffic cone on a well known statue
[21:08] <cenuij> and sadly it woule be the most recognised thing for a city of 6 million :/
[21:08] <cenuij> i.e. glasgow :>
[21:09] <owen_> irrelevant but, has anyone ever got audio in ubuntu working first time from installation, I've been running from about 6.06 and I've never had an installation where everything has worked ><
[21:09] <owen_> also, glasgow has much less than 6 million surely?
[21:09] <dr_willis> I cant say that ive ever had any audio issues at all.
[21:09] <DaskreecH> DawnLight: You can encrypt a Directory with the live CD
[21:10] <cenuij> owen_: perhaps, but maybe only by 1 m. it was called britains 2nd city for a reason
[21:10] <DawnLight> DaskreecH: i'm going for full encryption
[21:10] <cenuij> shrug
[21:10] <DaskreecH> I hate Audio in Ibex
[21:11] <DaskreecH> In basically every other release I could walk around the house or sit outside and hear music
[21:11] <owen_> population of scotland is 5 million :L
[21:11] <DaskreecH> Now in Ibex I have to be right beside the computer sometimes with my ear to the speaker to hear anything
[21:12] <gl_> hi, i installed kubuntu in the eee and I uinstalled cups. Now I want to install it again and I am not sure if the program printconfig was installed originlly. Any clues?
[21:12] <owen_> DaskreecH - I thought that was a problem, not the default setting?
[21:13] <DaskreecH> I dunno
[21:14] <DaskreecH> And Skype no longer works
[21:14] <DaskreecH> Well
[21:14] <DaskreecH> "works"
[21:14] <cenuij> owen_: 5, in total?
[21:14] <DaskreecH> Anytime I make a call or get a call it says There is an audio problem
[21:14] <DaskreecH> However if I test audio it works fine
[21:14] <DaskreecH> If I test audio and make a call in 2-3 seconds it also works
[21:14] <DaskreecH> It's just really frustrating
[21:14] <cenuij> owen_: i'd be kind of shocked that was the figure 20 years ago :<
[21:15] <owen_> google it :P
[21:15] <owen_> its like 5.1 million
[21:15] <cenuij> so that would make glasgow 190k-250k
[21:15] <cenuij> or no wait, cant be right
[21:16] <owen_> nearer 600,000 apparently
[21:16] <cenuij> 250k is edinburgh city center
[21:16] <DaskreecH> can anyone check if printconfig is installed and tell gl_ ? Esp if they haven't installed cups :-P
[21:19] <cenuij> owen_: while your right, and iḿ wrong, i'd still wager 6 mil, but clearly not in glasgow as that would make it the same size as london
[21:21] <cenuij> i must revise on scotland, especially if the 2md city title goes to leeds )
[21:21] <cenuij> both brum and manc are far more deserving :>
[21:22] <owen_> 2nd biggest city would be Brummieland wouldnt it?
[21:24] <owen_> ah, sod this for a game of soldiers, too much fiddling for my liking, wacom didnt work, sound doesnt work, graphics card drivers dont work
[21:25] <owen_> back to windows I go and I'll see if Ubuntu has any of these problems fixed by the next distro
[21:25] <owen_> probably not because I think it's actually got worse since 6.06, at least my wacom worked then >_>
[21:30] <gl_> please can somebody tell me if printconfig is installed by default in intrepid?
[21:32] <Worm`s> hello
[21:32] <Dillizar> my camera its not supported by 8.10!!! can any body help me to install drivers or something
[21:33] <gl_> webcam?
[21:33] <Dillizar> yes
[21:34] <gl_> did it work before?
[21:34] <e-head_> hey
[21:35] <Dillizar> yes on 8.04
[21:36] <gl_> sorry i have to go!
[21:36] <Dillizar> ok
[21:37] <genii> gl_: Since printconf is in universe I'd have to say no
[21:37] <genii> Bah he went
[21:39] <chris__> hey i got a question
[21:39] <genii> Shoot
[21:39] <chris__> got a canon mx310 printer series fax
[21:40] <chris__> runny hardy heron
[21:40] <chris__> runnin*
[21:40] <chris__> it reads it and everything
[21:40] <chris__> but wont print
[21:40] <chris__> what i need to do to get it to print?
[21:42] <genii> chris__: Try using the PIXMA MP150  drivers in CUPS
[21:42] <chris__> ok
[21:42] <chris__> open cups and then install through that?
[21:42] <chris__> im new to this
[21:43] <genii> chris__: Ope:   System ... Printing        and then from there
[21:43] <chris__> ok
[21:43] <vbgunz> how do you properly launch kdesu in 8.10?
[21:44] <genii> vbgunz: Try kdesudo
[21:44] <vbgunz> ok
[21:44] <vbgunz> genii: thanks :)
[21:45] <chris__> linux makes windows look like shit
[21:47] <chris__> i figured out the seagate free agent drive
[21:48] <chris__> GParted---> format to ext3 with 909.3 swap
[21:50] <chris__> what is better about Intrepid versus Hardy Heron?
[21:50] <genii> Not much actually. It's an intermediate release
[21:51] <chris__> i had problems with it
[21:51] <chris__> seemed buggy
[21:51] <chris__> especially as multimedia was concerned
[21:52] <demon_> how caN I UPGRATE gspcav drivers??
[21:52] <genii> Yes they are struggling with pulseaudio and other things
[21:52] <chris__> i could not get it to configure webcam, hardy heron does
[21:52] <chris__> i used wine and installed the software that came with it
[21:52] <chris__> works beautifully
[21:54] <demon_> chris__, thats a VERY GOOD IDEA
[21:54] <demon_> :D
[21:54] <demon_> and will it work with amsn??
[21:54] <chris__> it works through meebo
[21:54] <chris__> and through camorama
[21:54] <demon_> but
[21:54] <chris__> i imagine it would through amsn
[21:54] <chris__> havent tried
[21:54] <demon_> will the drivers run them self when i use some program that need the cam
[21:54] <chris__> yes
[21:55] <chris__> it works surprised me a lot
[21:55] <demon_> WOW
[21:55] <chris__> didnt expect it to work with linux
[21:55] <demon_> but
[21:55] <chris__> it said vista ready
[21:55] <chris__> when i bought it
[21:55] <demon_> why it doesnt work the flash :D like that
[21:55] <chris__> then popped the cd in ran with wine and voila
[21:55] <demon_> why cant i install it the windows version
[21:56] <chris__> it works perfectly
[21:56] <demon_> chris__, now if you can tell me where can i see what kidn of camera i have i will kiss you :P
[21:57] <chris__> device manager
[21:57] <kaminix> Can anyone tell why I'm not getting any sound from ZSNES?
[21:57] <chris__> system/ add remove/ device manager
[21:57] <kaminix> Or well, guess anyway. :p
[21:59] <demon_> chris__, will lsusb do :D
[22:00] <chris__> demon_, im not sure im fairly new at this myself
[22:01] <demon_> lol
[22:01] <demon_> moi aussi
[22:01] <demon_> :D
[22:01] <chris__> ;-)
[22:03] <demon_> hell i went to my cam site and they dont have my camera but on the picture of the commercial they use my cam but is till dont know it's name
[22:07] <sigp239> How do I add an account in Kopete?
[22:08] <mrksbrd> anyone know if open office 3 is in the repo's yet?
[22:08] <chris__> genii, use new ppd or old ppd
[22:15] <chris__> genii, it works
[22:15] <chris__> thank you
[22:23] <Fieldy> !vmware
[22:25] <Fieldy> hm. nothing about vmware server console or whatever that thing is to connect to remote servers, anyone know anything about getting it installed in kubuntu?
[22:26] <sigp239> Is Kopete not working with yahoo?
[22:29] <demon_> it works i think
[22:29] <demon_> lemme check
[22:29] <demon_> yes
[22:32] <ott0> anyone know how to fix service loop errors when using insserv?
[22:33] <ott0> like i try to run chkconfig vmware off and i get stuff life insserv: There is a loop between service checkroot and keyboard-setup
[22:33] <sigp239> demon_: I can't get my webcam to work with it though
[22:33] <demon_> well thats is because of the stupid new kernel :D
[22:34] <demon_> but
[22:34] <ott0> i have a feeling /usr/share/insserv/check-initd-order -g will help me somehow
[22:34] <sigp239> demon_: My webcam works otherewise though.  Just doesn't seem to work in yahoo with kopete
[22:35] <demon_> try with pidgin :D
[22:36] <demon_> no pidgin doesnt support cam
[22:36] <demon_> well
[22:36] <demon_> does it work with other IM
[22:36] <sigp239> not sure haven't tried.  but it works when i open the kopete configuration menu
[22:36] <demon_> btw did you tried to set the cam on Kopete
[22:37] <demon_> hmm
[22:37] <demon_> then try it with some friend
[22:37] <demon_> D:
[22:37] <sigp239> I did I tried it with my wife on the other computer she is using windows and yahoo messenger, but when I click "invite to my webcam" on kopete, she does not get anything at all
[22:38] <vbgunz> How can I turn off my wireless card?
[22:38] <vbgunz> I have a lan connection and prefer it...
[22:39] <vbgunz> and how do I stop knetworkmanager from automatically starting up?
[22:40] <sigp239> vbgunz: do you have a physical switch that can turn it off?
[22:40] <demon_> well
[22:42] <vbgunz> sigp239: no, I don't believe so. desktop with a simple card
[22:42] <sigp239> vbgunz: I know this may not be an elegant solution, but you could simply take it out.
[22:42] <vbgunz> how can I stop knetworkmanager from starting up and going into the system tray?
[22:42] <demon_> lol sigp239
[22:43] <chfwiggum> hi all! how do i install all .doc and ALL kde4-devs with apt-get? tia.
[22:43] <vbgunz> sigp239: true, I am feeling real lazy though :/
[22:43] <chfwiggum> guess there has to be an easy way
[22:44] <vbgunz> chfwiggum: looking for help on an app and being told theres no help file for it?
[22:44] <chfwiggum> well, help aint creating ansearch index, yeah files seem missing
[22:45] <chfwiggum> but mostly id like to be sure to be able to compile plasmoids
[22:45] <sigp239> vbgunz:  Yea there should be a way to set it through the software
[22:45] <vbgunz> chfwiggum: I personally noticed the docs are pretty incomplete and there doesn't seem to be a solution to it :(
[22:45] <demon_> vbgunz, you can always remove it from  synaptic :P
[22:45] <chfwiggum> ...which wouldnt work right now
[22:46] <demon_> !off topic
[22:46] <demon_> !offtopic
[22:46] <vbgunz> I just have no idea how knetworkmanager is starting up and going into my system tray... I'd really like to not see it
[22:47] <chfwiggum> !ot demon_
[22:47] <chfwiggum> !ot | demon_
[22:47] <dr_willis> I was thinkig knetwork manager was needed... but ive not really tried to remove it.
[22:48] <JontheEchidna> to remove network-manager you'd need to set up a network entry in /etc/network/interfaces
[22:48] <demon_> lol
[22:48] <vbgunz> well... am not really trying to remove it... just get it the hell out of my system tray :(
[22:48] <demon_> hey hey i dont really think that removing it is a good idea you may turn up with no internet :P
[22:49] <vbgunz> 4.2 is going to rock big time... I just dont have the balls to try and build it myself :(
[22:49] <thiago_> Hello.. I need help!!!!
[22:49]  * demon_ gives vbgunz some balls
[22:49] <demon_> !ask | thiago_
[22:50] <demon_> what seems to be the problem thiago_ ask
[22:51] <thiago_> Every time I record a CD/DVD on Kubuntu, after the recording is complete, the cdrom driver simply disapears and I cant mount it back as it keeps stating it is write-protected... what is happening? I used to record CD/DVD one after the other and this never occurred before
[22:51] <demon_> thiago_, you cant unmount it if the cd rom its empty
[22:51] <demon_> :P
[22:52] <thiago_> I do not unmount it
[22:52] <thiago_> it is automatic, once a CD recording completes the driver gets unmounted
[22:53] <demon_> you cant find the CD-Rom?
[22:53] <bayen> so I just installed 8.10, and I'm at a loss for why the screen keeps flashing up *something* every ten seconds or so...  it never comes up long enough for me to see, just kind of jitters, and it seems to be only on the lower half of the screen...  really weird...
[22:53] <thiago_> no
[22:53] <demon_> what happens when you put a cd
[22:53] <noaXess> does anybody has also problem with suspend and resuming intrepid on a notebook?
[22:53] <noaXess> in hardy all was good..
[22:53] <JontheEchidna> bayen: I think I can help you in just a minute
[22:53] <noaXess> but now, if i suspend to ram or distk, can get back my machine
[22:54] <noaXess> :(
[22:54] <bayen> JontheEchidna: take your time ^_^
[22:54] <demon_> thiago_, ?
[22:54] <JontheEchidna> bayen: http://blog.nixternal.com/2008.10.22/kubuntu-intrepid-dual-monitor-blinking/
[22:54] <JontheEchidna> see also: https://launchpad.net/bugs/278471
[22:55] <thiago_> if I put the cd nothing happens
[22:55] <thiago_> I can read its contents, and it it is an empty cd I can record anything to it
[22:56] <thiago_> my cd burner software even states no CD driver was found
[22:56] <thiago_> this only happens after I record the first CD
[22:56] <thiago_> before that everything is fine, normal
[22:57] <demon_> i had the same problem few months ago :) but when i put the cd back every thing was ok!
[22:57] <vbgunz> anyone have any idea how knetworkmanager is starting up? I mean *yay* I am connected... *boo* I know, please shoo from my system tray?
[22:58] <demon_> vbgunz, i can help you but i am on ubuntu now but why dont you just remove it from favorite programs thats how i did it on Xubuntu
[22:58] <vbgunz> favorite programs?
[22:59] <jussi01> vbgunz: just close it - right click, quit. next boot it shouldnt start
[22:59] <bayen> JontheEchidna: thankee very much! :D
[22:59] <vbgunz> jussi01 not true... the mofo is out to get me :(
[22:59] <JontheEchidna> bayen: yup, no problem
[23:00] <jussi01> vbgunz: try to keep it family friendly... :) so it doesnt ask you whether you want to start it next boot when you quit it?
[23:00] <vbgunz> nope
[23:00] <vbgunz> just asked are you sure
[23:01] <jussi01> vbgunz: 1 moment please
[23:03] <cbr> why is intel gm965 pretty crappy @ ubuntu?
[23:03] <cbr> 250 fps @ glxgears is nothing to be proud of tbh
[23:03] <demon_> vbgunz, thats on xubuntu
[23:05] <jussi01> vbgunz: There was a way, I just cant find it atm, sorry
[23:05] <labthug> Does anyone in here have experience with madwifi?
[23:05] <thiago_> anyone have any thoughts on my issue with my CDRW driver disappearing after a CD burn?
[23:06] <labthug> I built, installed, and modprobed (and rebooted) but am not getting a wifi entry in ifconfig
[23:06] <vbgunz> I just found this ... go to /etc/xdg/autostart ... are these things getting started automatically on a kubuntu system?
[23:06] <thiago_> To get it back I need to shut my laptop off(if I do only restart it the problem will remain)
[23:07] <jussi01> vbgunz: yeah, thats what I was looking for, try moving the knetwork manager out fromthere
[23:08] <vbgunz> jussi01, I am not going to reboot or log out/in now but I hope it works in the future :)
[23:08] <jussi01> vbgunz: me also :)
[23:09] <demon_> thiago_, i dont know how to use Xchat this is my first day :D i use to use konversation
[23:10] <thiago_> I just clicked at it accidentally.... sorry... I was trying some way to ping you privatelly... I am unable to follow the conversation with so many messages coming up
[23:13] <TheGentleman> I did something wrong and I need help:  on a kubuntu 8.04 I removed knetwork-manager by mistake making it impossible to connect the computer. I tried downloading wicd and putting it on usb key and copy it in that computer. At the dpkg -i command i got a list of errors and warnings.  Can anyone take some time to help me?
[23:14] <dek> is there a KSnapshot or similar for KDE4?
[23:15] <jussi01> yes
[23:16] <dek> jussi01: what's its name?
[23:16] <cbr> ksnapshot
[23:16] <cbr> tadaa!
[23:16] <dek> but the port for kde4 is done? if I try to install it I get: "No candidate version found for ksnapshot-kde4"
[23:18] <jussi01> !info ksnapshot
[23:19] <dek> ok, thanks :P
[23:22] <chfwiggum> noob question:how do i find out the kde installation directory. echo $KDEDIR gives no output
[23:28] <DrUnKnMuNkY> i can't connect to any encrypted wireless networks. can anyone help?
[23:29] <ghrocks> hi everyone, i updated my system kernel yesterday and when i turned my computer on today the grub didn't show up any boot option, it appeared only like if i was on the terminal but it says grub>  and that's all, right now im running the live cd and it's not recognizing me any partition to install, however dolphin can see my partitions, any idea of what can this be???
[23:31] <TheGentleman> where can I download network-manager (latest kubuntu 8.04 version) ?  I need the deb file, not to install it
[23:31] <TheGentleman> or any other package from the distribution
[23:32] <DrUnKnMuNkY> TheGentleman: if you use the -d option it will only download the .deb file and not install it
[23:32] <DrUnKnMuNkY> the packages are located in /var/cache/apt/archives
[23:32]  * Twylight is percocets again
[23:32] <maxbaldwin> So I pressed Alt+esc and a red X came up, and accidentally clicked my taskbar/bar thing. now I don't have a taskbar
[23:33] <maxbaldwin> how do I get it back?
[23:33] <TheGentleman> DrUnKnMuNkY,   like  sudo apt-get -d install network-manager  ?
[23:33] <TheGentleman>  where exactly do I put the -d option?  i couldn't understand it from man apt-get
[23:34] <wesley_> !aptfix
[23:34] <dek> where does KRunner get its list of programs? I have Krusader (file manager) installed, but if I want to run it I only get "Krusader - Root mode" when I should get both it and "Krusader" alone.
[23:34] <DrUnKnMuNkY> TheGentleman: that looks right to me
[23:34] <DrUnKnMuNkY> try it out
[23:35] <Intrepid> I tried to open the k9copy handbook and khelpcenter reported that it does not exist. How can I solve this?
[23:35] <TheGentleman> DrUnKnMuNkY, if it is not right it would delete my wicd installation.... leaving me with no connection!
[23:35] <|DS|> Intrepid I'de look for better advice
[23:36] <DrUnKnMuNkY> TheGentleman: if it appears to start then hit ctrl-c and it will stop
[23:36] <|DS|> drunkmuhky try not pressing ctrl-c
[23:36] <DrUnKnMuNkY> TheGentleman: your other option is to browse http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu and see if you can find the file
[23:36] <TheGentleman> isn't there any safer way to dowload a package?
[23:37] <TheGentleman> ok, thanks
[23:38] <DrUnKnMuNkY> TheGentleman: i just checked that syntax (for apt-get) and you'll be fine
[23:50] <demon_> thiago_,  did you restart your pc??
[23:53] <wesley_> how do i make a map that links to /media/sda2/video
[23:54] <dr_willis> wesley_,  a map?  You can make a 'link' to that location with the ' ln -s ' command
[23:55] <dr_willis> techhnically thats a 'soft link' :)
[23:55] <wesley_> yeaj like in home that video links to video on sda2
[23:55] <dr_willis> ln -s /one/location /other/location/that/i/always/get/backwards
[23:55] <dr_willis> I always get the order backwards.. :P then i try to rember to reverse them.. then i get conrused even more..
[23:55] <wesley_> i can make a link?
[23:56] <dr_willis> whever you want
[23:56] <dr_willis> its just a special file
[23:56] <dr_willis> ln -s /media/drive  /home/billgates/mymoney
[23:56] <dr_willis> I may or may not have that backwards :P
[23:56] <wesley_> how does i call ? i can make them for devices
[23:56] <dr_willis> call ?  huh?
[23:57] <dr_willis> 'everything in linux is a file' :) /dev/whatevers    are just special files    if that what you are asking about.
[23:57] <wesley_> like you make in windows a shortcur=t