| Hew | Bug 302251 is a libcanberra issue on Jaunty that I believe has just been fixed. However, libcanberra-gnome first needs to be manually removed. Is this something that needs to be taken care of by update-manager, or by a Replaces dependency? How should I triage this? | 05:06 |
|---|---|---|
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 302251 in libcanberra "package libcanberra-gtk0 0.6-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/canberra-gtk-play', which is also in package libcanberra-gnome" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/302251 | 05:06 |
| === pckchem is now known as thesecondlaw | ||
| dholbach | good morning | 06:56 |
| maco | hiya | 06:56 |
| thekorn | good morning | 07:21 |
| emgent | morning people | 07:24 |
| maco | tryptophan wearing off everybody? | 07:26 |
| nixternal | no | 07:31 |
| jmarsden | maco: I think that takes 24 hours :) | 07:31 |
| nixternal | actually, it never hit me | 07:31 |
| nixternal | it is 1:30 here, and never once did I fall asleep, which is odd for me | 07:32 |
| nixternal | damn Debian packaging today caused me to stay up | 07:32 |
| nixternal | I will sleep like a baby now here in a bit | 07:32 |
| jmarsden | Wikipedia says it's a myth... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryptophan#Turkey_meat_and_drowsiness | 07:33 |
| maco | nixternal: hey rich | 07:34 |
| nixternal | wasabi | 07:34 |
| * nixternal kicks ftp.us.debian.org | 07:35 | |
| nixternal | BUILD DAMNIT! | 07:35 |
| maco | well i'm looking at dholbach and thekorn and emgent, but then again...i guess they don't do the turkey thing over in euroland | 07:35 |
| dholbach | no :) | 07:35 |
| maco | i didnt eat any turkey, so i'm regular ol' me | 07:35 |
| maco | i fail at being american :P | 07:36 |
| nixternal | heh, my nephew ate turkey and passed out before he even finished his plate | 07:36 |
| maco | wow | 07:36 |
| dholbach | since I was in India, I'm like 99% vegetarian, so I probably wouldn't have dived into the turkey head-first anyway :) | 07:36 |
| nixternal | heh, 99% | 07:36 |
| jmarsden | nixternal: The remaining 1% of him is stainless steel? :) | 07:37 |
| nixternal | I bet | 07:37 |
| maco | my mom convinced me to eat some of the greenbean casserole even though it had *cream* of mushroom soup in it. -_- i did but jeez, there's a reason i brought non-dairy sour cream and non-dairy butter with me and made sure the mashed potatoes were totally vegan. my tummy is not happy about that cream of mushroom. | 07:37 |
| dholbach | haha | 07:37 |
| nixternal | or vinyl | 07:37 |
| dholbach | vinyl could well be | 07:37 |
| nixternal | DON'T EAT THE RECORDS! | 07:38 |
| maco | especially not *my* records | 07:38 |
| nixternal | you gonna dj at UDS? | 07:38 |
| dholbach | yeah :) | 07:38 |
| nixternal | rock on! | 07:38 |
| nixternal | you are gonna buy all the drinks at UDS? | 07:38 |
| maco | because um....reggae and motown don't taste good. yeah, that's it. | 07:38 |
| maco | nixternal: the only thing you care about haha | 07:38 |
| nixternal | I don't drink | 07:38 |
| nixternal | just water :p | 07:39 |
| maco | dude, i met you at OLF | 07:39 |
| nixternal | no you didn't, that was my twin | 07:39 |
| maco | i know you're full of it | 07:39 |
| maco | uh huh | 07:39 |
| nixternal | just cuz I was shootin' tequila at 11am during lunch, doesn't mean I drink | 07:39 |
| maco | i forgot that part | 07:39 |
| nixternal | oh, keep forgetting then | 07:39 |
| maco | i was just thinking about coming back from dinner during the afterparty and seeing you outside going nuts | 07:39 |
| nixternal | because it is funny how everyone else remembers that | 07:39 |
| nixternal | oh man, I don't even want to know | 07:40 |
| maco | or the pre-party, with you and jono and dann | 07:40 |
| nixternal | I saw video of me and the after party | 07:40 |
| nixternal | you can either blame that on jono or dan | 07:40 |
| nixternal | or maddog, since he bought me a few rounds with all of his tickets | 07:40 |
| maco | nixternal: you *glomped* jono when i said crimsun was there | 07:41 |
| nixternal | wth is glomped? I am afraid to know I think | 07:41 |
| maco | oh, i gave my tickets to jorge, i think | 07:41 |
| maco | a very forceful jump-on hug | 07:41 |
| nixternal | oh lord | 07:41 |
| maco | "jono! daniel chen is here!" | 07:42 |
| nixternal | that is cuz crimsun has been my IRC homie for like 3 years now | 07:42 |
| nixternal | or longer actually | 07:42 |
| maco | yes, with your sound card issues | 07:42 |
| nixternal | and it is daniel t. chen :p | 07:42 |
| nixternal | don't forget the t, he might melt | 07:42 |
| maco | hahaha well, he's just fine with me calling him just plain "dan" so... | 07:43 |
| maco | he uses the t because chen is like the 2nd most common last name in china, and daniel's not exactly an uncommon name either | 07:48 |
| nixternal | if (!full && time > 01:48) { nixternal->sleep(); std::cout << "Good Night!"; } | 07:49 |
| * maco snorts LOUDLY | 07:50 | |
| nixternal | actually the cout should have come before the sleep(), otherwise it would say good night after I woke up | 07:50 |
| maco | eh whatever, point got through | 07:50 |
| maco | or just claim it was threaded | 07:50 |
| === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach | ||
| === doko__ is now known as doko | ||
| * BUGabundo_work wonders if james_w could kick in the updates scripts for http://package-import.ubuntu.com/k/kdepim/jaunty-upstream/files/head%3A/kmail/ | 12:10 | |
| C0p3rn1c | an upgrade to the 2.6.24-22-generic kernell messed up my system, my nvidia drivers are not working anymore and my system doesnt boot anymore | 12:21 |
| C0p3rn1c | reboot* | 12:21 |
| ogra | 2.6.24-22 ? was that moved to hardy-updates already ? (it should only be in proposed for testing purposes yet and be superseded by -23) | 12:24 |
| C0p3rn1c | I'm running 8.04 | 12:26 |
| ogra | yes, your kernel version indicates that | 12:26 |
| C0p3rn1c | it was an urgent update | 12:26 |
| ogra | what does: apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.24-22-generic show ? | 12:27 |
| C0p3rn1c | so something went wrong and now I cant get any work done today untill I get it fixed :( | 12:27 |
| C0p3rn1c | 1 moment | 12:27 |
| C0p3rn1c | btw how do I stop all x servers (Im trying to install my nvidia drivers) | 12:28 |
| C0p3rn1c | again | 12:28 |
| BUGabundo_work | C0p3rn1c: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop ?? | 12:29 |
| BUGabundo_work | from a TTY of course | 12:29 |
| C0p3rn1c | I tried that | 12:29 |
| C0p3rn1c | (I also accedently installed another instance of the x server a while back) | 12:29 |
| C0p3rn1c | while running a drivers install program from nvidia | 12:29 |
| C0p3rn1c | pff something is wrong with my internet 1 sec | 12:30 |
| ogra | why dont you just switch back to 2.6.24-21 ? | 12:30 |
| ogra | also the output of the apt-cache policy command above would be *very* intresting | 12:30 |
| C0p3rn1c | ogra: yeah Im kinda new to ubuntu and I dident thought about that untill after I tried to install other nvidia drivers | 12:31 |
| C0p3rn1c | Im currently into the previous kernell | 12:31 |
| ogra | right | 12:31 |
| ogra | i dont think the 2.6.24-22 is thought for production use | 12:32 |
| ogra | but the at-cache policy command should show where you got it from | 12:32 |
| C0p3rn1c | I cant get my pastebin open :s | 12:32 |
| C0p3rn1c | http://rafb.net/p/y9NFRf70.html | 12:33 |
| C0p3rn1c | (apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.24-22-generic) | 12:33 |
| ogra | oh, seems you really got it from hardy-updates | 12:34 |
| C0p3rn1c | yes and I suggest that you reverse this because alot of users are going to get into trouble with this | 12:34 |
| ogra | can you please file a bug about that against the linux package | 12:34 |
| ogra | so the uploaders are aware of breakage there | 12:35 |
| C0p3rn1c | ogra: ok what should I include? | 12:35 |
| BUGabundo_work | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux | 12:35 |
| BUGabundo_work | main updates 2.6.24-22.45 main proposed 2.6.24-23.46 | 12:35 |
| ogra | well, describe closely what happened after your upgrade | 12:35 |
| C0p3rn1c | pff this is really a big mistake, it will damadge the reputation of ubuntu, at least it did with me | 12:35 |
| BUGabundo_work | Published on 2008-11-27 | 12:36 |
| ogra | and which version of envyng as well as linux-restricted-modules you use | 12:36 |
| BUGabundo_work | -- Stefan Bader < stefan.bader@canonical.com> Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:19:02 +0100 | 12:36 |
| ogra | since either of tehm ships the nvidia drivers | 12:36 |
| BUGabundo_work | oh I see there 2.6.28 for jaunty | 12:37 |
| C0p3rn1c | envyng 1.1.1 | 12:37 |
| ogra | yep since some days | 12:38 |
| BUGabundo_work | but I still don't have them available for install | 12:38 |
| C0p3rn1c | but normally I run the latest beta drivers | 12:38 |
| ogra | probably didnt build for all arches yet or sit in the NEW queue | 12:38 |
| C0p3rn1c | from nvidia | 12:38 |
| ogra | well | 12:38 |
| Hobbsee | well.... | 12:38 |
| ogra | beta indicates something, doesnt it ? :) | 12:38 |
| C0p3rn1c | I just started to install other drivers after they dident work anymore | 12:39 |
| BUGabundo_work | the strangest thing since I have 2.6.28 on my apt-changes log | 12:39 |
| BUGabundo_work | but it aint on grub or /boot | 12:39 |
| C0p3rn1c | the first thing I did was to install the stable nvidia drivers | 12:39 |
| C0p3rn1c | they also dident work | 12:39 |
| * BUGabundo_work out for lunch | 12:40 | |
| C0p3rn1c | the ones you normally get from "hardware drivers" | 12:40 |
| C0p3rn1c | after that I tried envyng, and this also failed, and now I was trying to install the latest stable drivers from the nvida website | 12:41 |
| C0p3rn1c | but I cant seem to kill all my x servers | 12:41 |
| ogra | so you installed multiple different nvidia drivers at the sae time ? that sounds like you made quite a mess | 12:41 |
| C0p3rn1c | only one driver can run at the same time right? | 12:42 |
| C0p3rn1c | the drivers themself always remove previous installed drivers as far as i know | 12:43 |
| C0p3rn1c | so guess I was wrong ? | 12:44 |
| ogra | the nvidia drivers from nvidia do what they like to ... they are not packaged so nothing in your system knows they did replace stuff | 12:44 |
| ogra | if yu use packaged drivers replacements should be handled ... | 12:45 |
| C0p3rn1c | ah ok | 12:45 |
| C0p3rn1c | if you go to #nvidia the subject of today is "Ubuntu kernel module problem? Ask in #ubuntu" | 12:46 |
| C0p3rn1c | so I guess Im not the only one | 12:46 |
| ogra | well, as i said, file a bug, give info so the kernel team knows about it and use -21 in the meantime | 12:47 |
| C0p3rn1c | ok | 12:48 |
| C0p3rn1c | first I have to fix this low-resolution | 12:49 |
| C0p3rn1c | bbl | 12:51 |
| C0p3rn1c | apperently the /etc/init.d/gdm script doesnt stop your x-server while the low-graphics drivers dialog is still displayed on screen | 13:19 |
| C0p3rn1c | anyways I'm back to nvidia driver 180.06 and kernell 2.6.24-21-generic and everything works again | 13:22 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| === LucidFox_ is now known as LucidFox | ||
| === bddebian2 is now known as bddebian | ||
| === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn | ||
| ryanakca | debian bug 497674 | 17:08 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 497674 in serpentine "serpentine: FTBFS in lenny: Nonexistent build-dependency: muine" [Serious,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/497674 | 17:08 |
| BUGabundo_work | have a good weekend people | 17:09 |
| chrisccoulson | ryanakca - was that meant to go in #ubuntu-motu? | 17:09 |
| ryanakca | chrisccoulson: no, I just use this (usually dead) channel for getting bug links so that I don't pollute #ubuntu-motu | 17:13 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 17:13 |
| ryanakca | I could /msg ubottu for it... but then I'd need to close the /query window, big todo and all, ya know :P | 17:14 |
| BUGabundo | asac: ping | 18:04 |
| BUGabundo | asac: I like like my own kid | 18:04 |
| BUGabundo | but right now, I fill like to slap you silly | 18:04 |
| BUGabundo | LOL | 18:04 |
| BUGabundo | lateste NM update makes WPA time out again | 18:04 |
| BUGabundo | network-manager (0.7~~svn20081018t105859-0ubuntu2) jaunty; urgency=low | 18:05 |
| asac | BUGabundo: how long did it take to connect? | 18:17 |
| asac | (before) | 18:18 |
| asac | did you use a PPA thing? | 18:18 |
| asac | (which version did you use before) | 18:18 |
| asac | thanks | 18:18 |
| BUGabundo | I'm on jaunty asac | 18:19 |
| BUGabundo | I had the ppa version when using ibex | 18:19 |
| BUGabundo | but since the upgrade, I had a jaunty version | 18:19 |
| BUGabundo | no PPA for jaunty | 18:19 |
| BUGabundo | so it was a lower version | 18:19 |
| asac | BUGabundo: unlikely that this made your thing timeout | 18:20 |
| BUGabundo | just got the update, after reboot, could not conect to wpa | 18:20 |
| asac | BUGabundo: the jaunty package before had no timeout tweak iirc | 18:20 |
| BUGabundo | keeps timeing out | 18:20 |
| asac | so now you have 60 seconds ... previously you had 25 | 18:20 |
| BUGabundo | it was working 100% for me | 18:20 |
| BUGabundo | something changed | 18:20 |
| BUGabundo | and was today | 18:20 |
| BUGabundo | last night it was working fine | 18:20 |
| asac | BUGabundo: check that it takes 60 seconds please | 18:21 |
| BUGabundo | tailing the log | 18:21 |
| BUGabundo | tail -fn0 syslog correct? | 18:21 |
| BUGabundo | yep asac | 18:23 |
| BUGabundo | 60 secs | 18:23 |
| asac | ok | 18:23 |
| asac | BUGabundo: what other packages were updated? | 18:23 |
| asac | did you reboot your system recently? | 18:23 |
| BUGabundo | yep | 18:23 |
| BUGabundo | at 17h GMT | 18:23 |
| asac | why? | 18:24 |
| BUGabundo | can I email my apt changes? | 18:24 |
| asac | BUGabundo: email? paste please | 18:24 |
| BUGabundo | okay | 18:24 |
| BUGabundo | I rebooted because job ended | 18:24 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 18:24 |
| BUGabundo | asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77803/ | 18:25 |
| asac | BUGabundo: whats that? | 18:26 |
| asac | thats the only packages upgraded in your upgrade? | 18:26 |
| asac | BUGabundo: try to downgrade to ubuntu1 and see if it starts to work again | 18:27 |
| asac | you need to downgrade: | 18:27 |
| asac | network-manager libnm-util0 libnm-glib0 | 18:27 |
| BUGabundo | and before that http://paste.ubuntu.com/77806/ | 18:27 |
| BUGabundo | let me check my cache | 18:27 |
| BUGabundo | asac http://paste.ubuntu.com/77807/ I have this | 18:28 |
| BUGabundo | is any of them good? | 18:28 |
| BUGabundo | no ubuntu1 version | 18:29 |
| BUGabundo | any more ideas asac? | 18:41 |
| asac | no ... not really. why do you send me changes mail? | 18:46 |
| asac | (in the paste) | 18:47 |
| asac | dont you have a apt log or something? | 18:47 |
| BUGabundo | I have apt-changes installed | 18:52 |
| BUGabundo | it send root the new packages | 18:52 |
| BUGabundo | and I read them with mutt asac | 18:52 |
| BUGabundo | I don't know that apt-log | 18:53 |
| BUGabundo | nor does apt-cache show | 18:53 |
| asac | 19:27 < asac> BUGabundo: try to downgrade to ubuntu1 and see if it starts to work again | 19:52 |
| asac | 19:27 < asac> you need to downgrade: | 19:52 |
| asac | (in future i wont repeat anymore) | 19:52 |
| asac | 19:27 < asac> network-manager libnm-util0 libnm-glib0 | 19:52 |
| asac | ;) | 19:52 |
| raboof | I added an insight that seems new to me to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linuxsampler/+bug/252330 , which is marked 'wont fix' | 21:22 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 252330 in linuxsampler "[needs-packaging] linuxsampler" [Wishlist,Won't fix] | 21:22 |
| raboof | what's the proper way to bring this under the attention again? | 21:22 |
| mrooney | raboof: well posting the comment and asking here are two good ways! | 21:25 |
| mrooney | persia, who marked the bug as wontfix, is subscribed so he should see it | 21:26 |
| raboof | ok, then it's time for me to be patient i guess :) | 21:27 |
| mrooney | raboof: he isn't on now but if you don't see a response in a few days you could ping him here on IRC | 21:27 |
| raboof | i'll keep that in mind, thanks. how do I see who marked it wontfix? | 21:28 |
| raboof | oh, the 'activity log'. right :) | 21:30 |
| mrooney | Hm, when does update-manager ask you to manually update? re bug 303251 | 22:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 303251 in ubuntu "applet" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/303251 | 22:02 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!