[10:50] <BenLauDC> Hi , I have just downloaded the source code of moblin image creator from git repository , but I found none of the platform use intrepid. 
[10:50] <BenLauDC> Is ubuntu mobile team keep their work in another repository ?
[10:54] <StevenK> BenLauDC: We don't use MIC with Intrepid
[11:00] <BenLauDC> SkevenK: ic..  any replacement of MIC?
[11:00] <StevenK> BenLauDC: For Intrepid and Jaunty, we are using livecd-rootfs to construct the image, along with a script that wraps it up into a vfat image
[11:01] <BenLauDC> SkevenK: icic , thx!
[11:47] <theseinfeld> anyone who knows how to explain why the libplasma2 from ports intrepid is dependent on kdebase-workspace-data version 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu9 which is not in the repository anymore?
[11:47] <theseinfeld> lool?
[11:48] <ogra> BenLauDC, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Mobile/HowTo/ImageCreation
[11:49] <theseinfeld> anyone who tried to make a lpia debootstrap from intrepid and then aptitude install libplasma2 will get into this trouble...
[11:49] <Hobbsee> theseinfeld: which version of libplasma2?
[11:49] <theseinfeld> the one that is in ports in ubuntu9
[11:49] <theseinfeld> 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu9 Hobbsee
[11:50] <BenLauDC> ogra : Thanks!!!
[11:50]  * Hobbsee scratches head
[11:50] <Hobbsee> oh.
[11:51] <Hobbsee> because the latter versions of kdebase-workspace never built.
[11:51]  * theseinfeld knows...
[11:51] <theseinfeld> so, we cannot get the plasma2 then?
[11:51] <StevenK> On lpia?
[11:51] <Hobbsee> StevenK: yes
[11:51] <theseinfeld> yes
[11:51] <StevenK> If it built on i386 and not lpia, that would explain it
[11:52] <Hobbsee> well, that's a pain.
[11:52] <theseinfeld> it is not the first time that the autobuilders images have some hickups
[11:52] <theseinfeld> where are the buildd reports actually?
[11:52] <theseinfeld> the whole kdebase is not build since ubuntu9
[11:52] <StevenK> In Launchpad
[11:52] <Hobbsee> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/4:4.1.2-0ubuntu13/+build/751761 and such
[11:53] <theseinfeld> StevenK can you please be more...Thanks Bobbsee
[11:53] <Hobbsee>   python-kde4-dev: Depends: python-kde4 (= 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed
[11:53] <Hobbsee> I hate when this stuff happens in stable releases.  you can't just give builds back...
[11:54] <theseinfeld> probably is because of this : python-kde4-dev: Depends: python-kde4 (= 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed
[11:54] <theseinfeld> I just realized this week, but I think it is a very old problem...
[11:55] <theseinfeld> question is, who knows anyone that can touch the autobuilder :D
[11:55] <Hobbsee> oh, fer....
[11:55] <theseinfeld> to fix those dependencies manually so we can build those kdebase packages :D
[11:55]  * Hobbsee can touch the autobuilder.
[11:55]  * theseinfeld loves Hobbsee :D
[11:56] <theseinfeld> I think the last time it build correctly was in the early November :D
[11:56] <pundiramit> ﻿hi... ﻿I have ported gnome-desktop+x11 on omap3-evm... gnome-session comes up nicely but no way to interact with the system... can anyone tell me how can I make tslib work with that?
[11:56]  * Hobbsee just *loves* circular build dependancies...
[11:57]  * theseinfeld yeah...what a mess :D
[12:00] <theseinfeld> Hobbsee, are you on top of this issue? Should I put my faith in you that I will see some kdebase installed?
[12:00] <Hobbsee> theseinfeld: i'm looking into it, but no promises.
[12:01] <theseinfeld> Hobbsee, let me know if I can help you...
[12:01] <theseinfeld> I've been bogged into this the whole week...
[12:01] <theseinfeld> I even used some old mirror backup to get the kdebase somehow up
[12:04] <theseinfeld> Hobbsee, did you check actually the proposed one: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/kdebase-workspace/4:4.1.3-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 It fails on everything :(
[12:04] <Hobbsee> yes, i saw that.
[12:05] <theseinfeld> and the https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/kdebase-workspace/4:4.1.2-0ubuntu12 which builds in jaunty but not in intrepid
[12:05] <theseinfeld> great success :D
[12:06] <Hobbsee> that didn't build in intrepid...
[12:06] <Hobbsee> er, jaunty
[12:07] <theseinfeld> the 4.1.3
[12:08]  * Hobbsee wonders why that's called 4.1.73...
[12:09]  * theseinfeld was thinking the same...
[12:09] <theseinfeld> They are hard working people there ;D
[12:14]  * theseinfeld wonders...
[12:14] <theseinfeld> In 5 days from 4.1.2 -> 4.1.73 :D
[12:15] <theseinfeld> is Riddell online?
[12:15] <Hobbsee> he's on holidays
[12:16] <theseinfeld> I guess that explains the lag...
[12:16]  * Hobbsee wonders why this built on other arches
[12:16] <theseinfeld> it did?
[12:17] <theseinfeld> make a diff between the logs :D
[12:17] <theseinfeld> which version is your focus? ubuntu13?
[12:17] <theseinfeld> 4.1.2?
[12:19] <Hobbsee> all of them, so far.
[12:26] <Hobbsee> Ah, that would be https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4bindings/+bug/289402
[12:26] <Hobbsee> note to self:  check for bugs first
[12:27]  * ogra isnt sure that haigh :)
[12:27] <ogra> *high
[12:27] <ogra> lpia might be a dying arch 
[12:28] <Hobbsee> ogra: that's true.  I've still no idea why it didn't hit the other arches, though
[12:28] <theseinfeld> ogra why is lpia a dying arch?
[12:29] <ogra> theseinfeld, we'll discuss if we want to go on keeping it at UDS ... the achievemnts are probably not big enough to justify the work we have to put in to maintin a complete separate arch for it 
[12:30] <theseinfeld> UDS as in Sevilla?
[12:31] <Hobbsee> Googleplex in California, actually
[12:31] <Hobbsee> sevilla was a year and a half ago
[12:31] <ogra> right, UDS as in ubuntu developer sumit at google next month :)
[12:31] <theseinfeld> Google Inc., Crittenden Campus, 1400 Crittenden Lane, Mountain View, CA 94043 
[12:31] <theseinfeld> ok
[12:32] <theseinfeld> That will be in 2 weeks?
[12:32] <theseinfeld> Monday 8th - Friday 12th December 2008 
[12:32] <ogra> right
[12:33] <ogra> we'll review lpia there and decide if its worth keeping it ...
[12:47]  * theseinfeld fears...
[12:48] <lool> Hobbsee: KDE stuff was all pain in jaunty as well
[12:49] <lool> FTBFSed all over the place
[12:49] <lool> Yeah Riddell in holidays til UDS or so
[12:49] <Hobbsee> lool: I can see that.  Looks like 4.2 is fixing a lot fo it
[12:49] <lool> Hobbsee: It is; I poked kubuntu-dev people about it
[12:49] <lool> I wanted to help, but the .73 tarballs are only downloadable by official packagers...
[12:49] <Hobbsee> oh, they're on ktown?
[12:49] <lool> There's an intrepid-backports of .3 which does build
[12:50]  * Hobbsee probably still has an account for that, come to think of it...
[12:50] <lool> Hobbsee: On ftp.kde.org they are group "packager"
[12:50] <lool> and 660 or so
[12:50] <ogra> theseinfeld, why do you fear ? it really doesnt gain you much above the x86 arch
[12:50] <Hobbsee> ah, right
[12:50] <lool> Hobbsee: Anyway, they are prepared now
[12:50] <lool> So jaunty is being fixed
[12:50] <Hobbsee> cool
[12:50] <lool> One can note that intrepid's version ftbfs which is bad
[12:50] <ogra> s/why/what/
[12:51] <lool> As you pointed out, there's a bdep loop too
[12:51] <lool> Hobbsee: Do you think we can do anything about it for intrepid/lpia?
[12:51] <Hobbsee> lool: depends if 4.2 gets pushed to -updates.
[12:51] <lool> I wouldn't expect so
[12:52] <Hobbsee> lool: there's an existing bug on it, so perhaps they'll SRU 4.1.3 (again?)
[12:52] <lool> Perhaps we could push 4.1.3 to updates though instead of the weird backports only version
[12:52] <Hobbsee> rgreening's not around to ask
[12:52] <Hobbsee> the 4.1.3 bit is broken too, no?
[12:52] <Hobbsee> on lpia?
[12:52] <lool> Yeah, but at least it doesn't FTBFS
[12:53] <lool> On arches where python-kde4 / plasma are installed
[12:53] <lool> Oh 4.1.3 is on proposed as well
[12:53]  * ogra remembers the mojo people moaning a lot about kde building 
[12:53] <lool> kdebase-workspace | 4:4.1.3-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 | intrepid-proposed | source, all
[12:53] <lool> failed to build everywhere *sigh*
[12:54] <Hobbsee> all of those seem to have the circular build-deps.
[12:54] <lool> and same for kde4bindings *double-sigh*
[12:54] <Hobbsee> although I've got no idea why amd64/i386 built on the ppa
[12:54] <Hobbsee> the circular build deps are only resolved in the 4.2 packages
[12:55] <Hobbsee> so we either take 4.2, or sru it again
[12:55] <lool> Hobbsee: Was this a packaging mistake?
[12:55] <Hobbsee> lool: likely.
[12:55] <Hobbsee> although, from the bug, it seems that it's an upstream kde mistake as well
[12:56] <Hobbsee> it's probably worth making sure that those bindings don't get from proposed to updates, too.
[12:58] <Hobbsee> although I guess it can be SRU'd, and SRUd again
[13:01] <lool> I wonder why kdebase-workspace only failed to build on armel
[13:04] <lool> libplasma3 4:4.1.73-0ubuntu7 versus 8, but probably not the issue
[13:05] <ogra> are all build deps up to date ? 
[13:06] <lool> kdelibs5 as well
[13:06] <lool> ogra: usually newer on armel than on i386
[13:07] <ogra> what about kde4libs ? 
[13:08] <ogra> ah, kde4bindings is dep-wait 
[13:08] <ogra> that might have something to do with it
[13:10] <lool> I don't understand why there's so much difference in boost stuff
[13:12] <lool> THe *i386* build has ImportError: No module named distutils.sysconfig
[13:13] <lool> Perhaps the armel build pulls more stuff
[13:22] <lool> Or it's just a type conversion error in kdebase-workspace :)
[14:22] <Do1> trying to get some help with syncing a motorola Q,  I can see the phone, I can get records from Evolution, but can not Browse the phone nor get it to sync. using ubuntu 8.10 and synce  0.12 all installed as packages.
[14:23] <Do1> The moto Q is a Windows Mobile 5 device
[14:50] <theseinfeld> back...