[00:02] <Deeps> LoveGuru: what's your mount line in your fstab?
[00:10] <LoveGuru> Sorry was not here.
[00:10] <LoveGuru> # /dev/sda3
[00:10] <LoveGuru> UUID=73a8827b-6cac-42d9-a918-e1d7fa657e1f /mnt/sda        ext3    relatime,error
[00:10] <LoveGuru> s-remount-ro 0        0
[00:11] <LoveGuru> thats the line i add it in /etc/fstab
[00:15] <Deeps> LoveGuru: thats all on one line or split into two lines?
[00:16] <LoveGuru> one line
[00:16] <Deeps> and if you try to manually mount using mount /mnt/sda
[00:17] <LoveGuru> it works fine manually " sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/sda
[00:17] <LoveGuru> no error nothing
[00:17] <Deeps> thats not what i asked you to do
[00:17] <Deeps> [sudo] mount /mnt/sda is different to [sudo] mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/sda
[00:17] <LoveGuru> ohh i didn;t checked it. ya but its working fine
[00:17] <LoveGuru> ahh sorry
[00:18] <Deeps> if you can umount it and try it the way i asked
[00:18] <LoveGuru> sudo mount /mnt/sda
[00:18] <LoveGuru> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda3,
[00:18] <LoveGuru>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[00:18] <LoveGuru>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[00:18] <LoveGuru>        dmesg | tail  or so
[00:19] <Deeps> seems like you're trying to mount /dev/sda3 as ext3 when it's not ext3
[00:19] <hads> Or your UUID is wrong
[00:19] <Deeps> hads: see the last word on the first line of the error
[00:20] <hads> heh, I do now :)
[00:20] <LoveGuru> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2008-11-27 17:33 73a8827b-6cac-42d9-a918-e1d7fa657e1f -> ../../sda3
[00:20] <LoveGuru> i set the correct UUID
[00:20] <Deeps> LoveGuru: your uuid is correct, hads didnt read the error message fully
[00:20] <LoveGuru> ahhh
[00:20] <LoveGuru> ok
[00:21] <hads> sudo vol_id /dev/sda3 | grep TYPE
[00:22] <LoveGuru> ID_FS_TYPE=ext3
[00:22] <Deeps> looks like you need to see if there's any useful info in your syslog then
[00:22] <LoveGuru> Deeps: /var/syslog ?
[00:23] <Deeps> /var/log/syslog
[00:23] <LoveGuru> alright
[00:23] <Deeps> at a guess, i'd reckon there's a problem with your options
[00:24] <Deeps> errors-remount-ro looks suspect
[00:24] <Deeps> should have spotted that earlier hehe
[00:24] <LoveGuru> Deeps: w0ww man u are the genious :)
[00:24] <LoveGuru> yep.
[00:24] <LoveGuru> thats the error i found in /var/log/syslog
[00:25] <LoveGuru> do i ahve to paste that 4 lines at pastebin?
[00:25] <hads> Just remove the option
[00:25] <Deeps> dont bother, we know what the problem is already
[00:25] <Deeps> you typod
[00:25] <LoveGuru> :<
[00:25] <Deeps> there should be an = sign in there
[00:26] <LoveGuru> UUID=73a8827b-6cac-42d9-a918-e1d7fa657e1f /mnt/sda        ext3    relatime,error s-remount-ro 0        0
[00:26] <LoveGuru> thats the line
[00:26] <Deeps> error s-remount-ro should be errors=remount-ro
[00:26] <Deeps> if you look at your fstab, the line relating to mountpoint /
[00:27] <Deeps> cripes my fstab's a mess
[00:28] <LoveGuru> so Just Remove that option line ?
[00:28] <Deeps> up to you, you can either remove the option, or you can type it correctly
[00:28] <LoveGuru> okie
[00:31] <LoveGuru> Deeps And hads Thanx. yep now got the entry in df -h
[00:32] <Deeps> super
[00:32] <LoveGuru> So Nice 0f guys.. u guys are really helpfull for new *nix newbies. i appriciate all help.
[00:34] <hads> Thank Deeps mostly, but nice to see that you have a good attitude :)
[00:35] <LoveGuru> tx :)
[01:00] <iclebyte> is there anyway I can break out to a shell during the partitioning stage of the ubuntu-server 8.04 installer? I want to check if mkfs.ext3 is still running but ALT+F2 just changes the background colour =)
[01:01] <ball> What about Ctrl Alt F2 ?
[01:02] <iclebyte> does the same thing
[01:02] <iclebyte> i'm creating a 1TB raid 1 volume but its been sat at 33% for the last few hours..
[01:04] <iclebyte> no more suggetions
[01:04] <iclebyte> suggestions*
[01:06] <ball> hardware RAID?
[01:07] <iclebyte> no software raid
[01:07] <iclebyte> a little under 4 hours is been running now
[01:08] <ball> I'm not very familiar with software RAID on Linux
[01:08] <ball> I've done it once or twice, but never on a boot disk
[01:12] <iclebyte> well all i need to know is how to get a shell during the install
[01:12] <ball> Ctrl + C?
[01:13] <iclebyte> don't really wanna be hitting ctrl+C
[01:13] <ball> okay.
[01:13] <iclebyte> i just want to check if mkfs.ext3 is running
[01:13] <iclebyte> although the disk light on the server is still going..
[01:13] <ball> can you ssh in?
[01:14] <iclebyte> how long should it take to format a 1tb raid volume with ext3?
[01:14]  * ball shrugs
[01:14] <iclebyte> no the installer doesn't start ssh by default
[01:15] <iclebyte> nightmare, i guess i'll just have to leave it a few more hours..
[01:15] <hads> ext3 is slow at doing stuff
[01:18] <iclebyte> I read a thread that said the way the installer calculates its progress is that it waits for mkfs.ext3 to complete before moving from 33% and the fact that ALT+F1 & ALT+F2 change the colours means the system is still responsive but should it take over 4 hours?
[01:18] <hads> Couldn't say as I haven't formatted a large partition with ext3 for ages. I wouldn't be surprised though.
[01:19] <iclebyte> okay i'll leave it
[01:19] <iclebyte> better goto work. thanks alot.
[01:27] <ball> hello rgreening
[01:49] <ball> hello azteech
[01:52] <rgreening> hey ball
[01:54] <azteech> evening, ball
[01:55] <ball> hello rphillips
[01:59] <ball> Anyone here tried netatalk on Ubuntu Server?
[02:00] <azteech> nope, can't say I have
[02:02] <ball> is there some way to uninstall a package and all of the dependencies, except those shared by other packages that remain on the system?
[02:08] <azteech> ball, there is, but at moment, the exact apt-get command escapes me ... try doing a search on the Ubuntu Forums.
[02:09] <ball> Are those at ubuntu.com ?
[02:09] <azteech> no, ubuntuforums.org
[02:09] <ball> thanks
[02:11] <azteech> you are welcome
[02:23] <ssd7> well, once you uninstall it using apt-get remove
[02:24] <ssd7> i think apt-get autoremove will get rid of packages that were brought in by that package but aren't needed by other packages
[02:31] <ball> Thanks
[03:11] <ball> nfs, samba, netatalk... what other ways are there to share a filesystem?
[03:52] <tonyyarusso> ball: sshfs
[03:52] <tonyyarusso> ftp, http
[03:52] <ball> oooh, thanks.
[06:49] <Lokin> Can someone help me make a restricted user (guest?) on my server
[07:38] <milestone> Lokin: still there?
[07:38] <Lokin> yes
[07:39] <Lokin> busy atm
[07:39] <Lokin> one sec
[08:30] <Koon> sommer: thx for the likewise-open SRU testing... any chance you could also test bug 222224 (part of the same SRU) and set the verification-done tag if successful ?
[08:31] <Lokin> milestone: done
[08:43] <kraut> moin
[09:51] <elTigre> hey, my locales are broken... how can I fix them??
[12:00] <joerlend> I have my domain pointed to a webserver on which I have an account. Now, I have another webserver at home, and I'd like requests to the first server to be silently redirected to the other. That is, a cloak. How do I do that? People have mentioned mod_rewrite in apache, but do I use that as a normal script or is it an apache config?
[12:19] <eagles0513875> hey guys i have a question about wifi and radius server
[12:19] <eagles0513875> im using ubuntu server and have turned it into kubuntu using a super basic kde install of the kde-core pkg
[12:19] <eagles0513875> now i have wifi working fine at home
[12:19] <eagles0513875> and im able to get on the wifi at school just fine
[12:19] <eagles0513875> no proxies
[12:19] <eagles0513875> but when i ping google.com i get destination host unreachable
[12:25] <Koon> zul: debdiff for hardy SRU posted on bug 290399, you might want to accept the nomination
[12:25] <eagles0513875> koon any idea as to my issue
[12:26] <Koon> eagles0513875: not really. Try a tracepath to see where it's stuck, maybe
[12:27] <_ruben> there's something really fishy wrt to postfix package when combined with preseeding .. when preseeding "no configuration" option, it asks for the mailname, which is shouldnt ask .. and that very option (mailname) cant be preseeded either (it can only be 'preseeded' after postfix has been installed)
[13:15] <lamont> _ruben: one has to seed the seen flag too
[13:15] <_ruben> lamont: it wont let me, but i dont understand why that question even pops up?
[13:16] <_ruben> why ask for mailname when no configuration is chosen? its not asked when chosing it interactively
[13:16] <_ruben> and seeding the seen flag doesnt work for some reason (it doesnt know the mailname "tag" (or whatever those are called))
[13:16] <lamont> mailname defaults to 'hostname --fqdn' output
[13:17] <lamont> see also bug 252980
[13:17] <eagles0513875> can anyone help me with a particular issue
[13:17] <_ruben> lamont: i know, but what i dont understand is how preseeding could lead to *more* questions
[13:18] <_ruben> eagles0513875: you turned your server into kubuntu, ask the kubuntu ppl for help
[13:20] <lamont> _ruben: because the config script specifically messes with the default values, I expect
[13:20] <eagles0513875> _ruben ok but this is kinda specific network issue cuz i seem to be missing something im just wondeirng if there is a network guru in here but i guess not
[13:21] <lamont> eagles0513875: paste.ubuntu.com: give us the output of netstat -rn
[13:22] <eagles0513875> ok ill have to install konversation cuz im on a windows box atm
[13:22] <eagles0513875> lamont this issue occurs at school which i wont be at till monday
[13:23] <eagles0513875> lamont im missing something with regards to authenticating against a radius server
[13:23] <eagles0513875> cuz i get an ip and all but cant ping for instance google.com or get to a website
[13:23] <lamont> ah, well then, you want a radius persone
[13:23] <lamont> s/e$//
[13:23] <eagles0513875> is there a channel for that
[13:23] <lamont> nfc
[13:24] <_ruben> lamont: any ideas on why postfix/mailname isnt known to debconf prior to install postfix, but is present after? eventually, all i want is postfix to install without asking questions, its configuration will be handled by our configuration management system anyways
[13:25] <lamont> _ruben: because it's defined in the postfix package debconf templates, of course.
[13:26] <_ruben> lamont: which is because of its complexity? since (atleast some of) the other stuff is preseedable just fine
[13:26] <lamont> that it's defined there? no, that's the architecture of debconf
[13:26] <Boogieman> Hello
[13:27] <Boogieman> How to get server-ubuntu network to work after install?
[13:27] <lamont> _ruben: in your preseed file:
[13:27] <lamont> d-i postfix/main_mailer_type string No configuration
[13:27] <lamont> d-i postfix/mailname seen true
[13:27] <_ruben> lamont: i'll try again just to be sure, but iirc, i tried similar thing numerous times .. it complains to not know postfix/mailname
[13:28] <lamont> and does d-i pkgsel/include have postfix in the list/
[13:28] <lamont> ?
[13:28] <_ruben> yes
[13:29] <_ruben> initiating test install .. will know results in a few mins
[13:53] <_ruben> lamont: both an intrepid and hardy test install come up with the mailname question :(
[13:54] <_ruben> no complaining about mailname in the syslog now though, strange
[13:55] <ivoks> mailname question?
[13:55] <_ruben> ivoks: postfix/mailname .. "System mail name"
[13:55] <_ruben> even tho i preseeded it with seen true
[13:56] <lamont> _ruben: interesting.  doesn't happen here
[13:56] <_ruben> its not impossible for my setup to be flawed somehow
[13:56] <ivoks> postfix postfix/mailname        string  mysuperbox
[13:58] <_ruben> ivoks: that was gonna be my next test, preseeding it with a dummy value
[13:58] <_ruben> will do so now
[14:00] <ivoks> well, if you don't preseed it, it will ask
[14:01] <_ruben> the odd thing is, is that i shouldnt even be getting that question imo, since i chose "no configuration" .. when i use debconf-set-selections and then apt-get install postfix, it wont ask me that question
[14:01] <lamont> do you seed the hostname?
[14:02] <lamont> (as in, not postfix)
[14:02] <_ruben> lamont: no, i enter it at install time (either as boot option or interactively)
[14:03] <lamont> that might be related, since postfix defaults mailname to the fqdn of the host.  dunno
[14:03]  * lamont is not a d-i guy
[14:04] <_ruben> lamont: i kinda doubt that that would be it, since the question does come with an (acceptable) default answer
[14:04] <_ruben> im gonna try preseeding a dummy mailname
[14:07] <_ruben> atleast i havent been running into the "unclean target" error for a while now .. *keeps fingers crossed*
[14:15] <_ruben> preseeding a dummyhostname seemed to have done the trick .. its booting the target now
[14:16] <_ruben> and it did configure postfix up to a point .. naughty :p
[14:16] <lamont>  /etc/mailname always gets created if not extant.  iz policy
[14:16] <lamont> "No Configuration" refers to main.cf
[14:19] <_ruben> i expected to end up without main.cf, which is the case with debconf-set-selections+apt-get, but i end up with some basic one
[14:20] <_ruben> either way, its progress :)
[14:38] <ivoks> recommends are installed by default?
[15:12] <[1]Dave> hello
[15:12] <[1]Dave> somebody here
[15:12] <[1]Dave> ?
[15:13] <[1]Dave> can somebody help me?
[15:14] <ivoks> don't ask if you can ask, just ask
[15:16] <nijaba> !ask
[15:21] <nijaba> I guess [1]Dave just wanted to know if help was available but had not question yet?
[15:21] <_ruben> probably
[15:22] <nijaba> ivoks: yes, since Intrepid, recommends are indeed installed by default
[15:23] <ivoks> nijaba: thanks
[15:23] <nijaba> ivoks: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#Recommended%20packages%20installed%20by%20default
[15:27] <ivoks> vanishing bug
[15:28] <ivoks> what's wrong with:
[15:28] <ivoks> db_set bacula/sd_passwd "$SDPASSWD"
[15:28] <ivoks> ?
[15:29] <Jeeves_> Ha!
[15:30] <Jeeves_> Now I know your password!
[15:32] <_ruben> heh
[15:32] <ivoks> Jeeves_: yeah; it's $SPADDSWD=`cat /dev/urandom`
[15:48] <ivoks> i'd better stop or else i'm gonna get mad
[15:53] <ivoks> doh!
[15:53] <ivoks> string
[16:34] <lucabecchetti> hi, sorry, mysql-server-5.1 is not in apt????
[16:36] <lucabecchetti> nobody know?
[16:36] <Deeps> it was only released on 14th november
[16:36] <andol> lucabecchetti: No, not in the standard repositories anyway.
[16:37] <Deeps> it wont be in standard repos for a while
[16:37] <lucabecchetti> thanks, i need to test some features, do you know some alternative repos?
[16:37] <Deeps> letmegooglethatforyou.com
[16:38] <andol> lucabecchetti: Once a releases is made, the only updates it will get are serious bug fixes.
[16:38] <lucabecchetti> ok
[16:38] <lucabecchetti> thanks
[16:49] <Xpistos> Hey, I am at my witts end and could use a little help getting VNC ed into my Ubuntu server from my windows box at work. Any takers?
[16:50] <Xpistos> I have my SSH tunnel up and am running everything through secured connection, but I can't seem to connect to the server
[16:50] <Xpistos> Via VNC
[16:55] <Deeps> you have vnc running on your ubuntu box?
[16:56] <Deeps> vncserver*
[16:56] <Xpistos> Deeps: Yes. I can connect from my Intrpeid Laptop
[16:57] <Deeps> are all 3 machines on the same lan? not behind any routers or anything?
[16:57] <Xpistos> Deeps: The Ubunru server is on my home network and this windows machine I am on now is at work, but I am SSH ed in
[16:57] <Deeps> and your intrepid laptop is where?
[16:58] <Xpistos> Deeps: That is in my bag, but I can't get wireless connection from work
[16:58] <Deeps> ok
[16:58] <Deeps> what ssh tunnels do you have defined?
[16:59] <Xpistos> Deeps: Why you say what SSh tunnels what do you mean?
[16:59] <Xpistos> Deeps: I have a tunnel setup through putty
[16:59] <Deeps> what do you mean by 'tunnel'?
[17:00] <Xpistos> I setup up an ssh connection using Putty and have a tunnel forwarded to port 8080
[17:01] <Deeps> how did you make this tunnel?
[17:02] <Xpistos> in Putty it gives the option under SSH to add a port for an SSH tunel. Set it Dynamic and added the port to forward to 8080 and that is how I can connect to the internet via proxy through Firefox, Pidgin, etc
[17:02] <Deeps> ok, so you've setup a dynamic ssh tunnel on port 8080
[17:02] <Xpistos> yes
[17:02] <Deeps> which allows applications with socks support to proxy through your remote machine
[17:02] <Xpistos> correct
[17:03] <Deeps> add another tunnel, local port: 5900, destination: localhost:5900, type local
[17:03] <Deeps> these are called ssh tunnels
[17:03] <Deeps> local, remote and dynamic, all are called ssh tunnels
[17:03] <Xpistos> Add another tunnel in what, my rooter or in putty
[17:03] <Deeps> in putty
[17:04] <Deeps> and it's not a 'rooter', it's a router
[17:05] <Deeps> creating port forwards in your router is not creating a tunnel, dont get the terms confused
[17:05] <Xpistos> Okay that is open
[17:05] <Deeps> now load up vnc on the same machine, and try to connect to localhost
[17:07] <Xpistos> Deeps: It must be a problem with the VNC client I am using. I will try to see if I can get some help setting it up.
[17:46] <slicslak> anyone recall where the system setting for the editor is kept?  just want to change crontab -e to use vi
[17:55] <ropetin> slicslak: export VISUAL=/usr/bin/vim
[18:05] <slicslak> ropetin, that won't change it permanetly though will it?
[18:06] <ropetin> slicslak: I don't honestly know.  It worked on my box, but it never restarts
[18:07] <slicslak> heh  :)
[18:08] <ropetin> Current uptime is 109 days, which strangely enough is when it first turned on :D
[18:09] <Deeps> slicslak: alter your .profile or the systemwide profile to EDITOR=/usr/bin/vim; export EDITOR
[18:30] <slicslak> Deeps, right, i thought it was in profile but didn't realize i had to add that line
[18:31] <slicslak> th
[18:31] <slicslak> x
[19:09] <mathiaz> zul: http://lists.mysql.com/packagers/402 -> mysql 5.1 has reached GA
[19:10] <mathiaz> zul: should we get 5.1 in jaunty?
[19:42] <zul> mathiaz: yeah sounds like a good idea
[19:43] <zul> i think its in experimental isnt it?
[19:43] <mathiaz> zul: yes - looking at it now
[19:43] <zul> k
[19:44] <mathiaz> zul: the build log for 5.0 show test failures in arithemtic tests
[19:44] <mathiaz> zul: that's really strange
[19:45] <mathiaz> zul: sum, average and other functions don't return the correct result apparently
[19:45] <zul> mathiaz: so you noticed? :)
[19:46] <mathiaz> zul: I have no clue where the problem could be
[19:47] <zul> mathiaz: im guessing gcc
[19:47] <mathiaz> zul: I'll put up the build log somewhere and ask for input
[19:47] <mathiaz> zul: right - I'd also thought about that
[19:47] <mathiaz> zul: may be kees has an idea about as he played with it for the PIE stuff
[19:47] <zul> mathiaz: ive been checking google and bugs.mysql.com but nada
[19:48] <zul> mathiaz: i dont think it has to do with the pie stuff maybe the armour stuff?
[19:49] <mathiaz> zul: may be.
[19:50] <mathiaz> kees: do you have any idea why mysql-dfsg-5.0 fails to build?
[19:50] <mathiaz> kees: see ^^ for some information
[19:51] <mathiaz> kees: I've put up the sbuild logs for amd64 and i386: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mathiaz/mysql-dfsg-5.0_5.0.67-1ubuntu1_amd64 http://people.ubuntu.com/~mathiaz/mysql-dfsg-5.0_5.0.67-1ubuntu1_i386
[19:52] <mathiaz> zul: if we're moving to mysql 5.1 what would be the impact on packages linked to libmysql?
[19:52] <mathiaz> zul: does this mean we'd have to go through a library transition?
[19:53] <zul> some packages might break but we would have to figure out what needs to be changed
[19:54] <zul> 138 packages will have to be checked looks like including qt so it wouldnt be trivial
[19:58] <zul> mathiaz: im trying with -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE
[20:05] <mathiaz> zul: well - 5.1 shows similar test failures
[20:06] <mathiaz> zul: considering that 5.1 builds in debian, it's probably related to ubuntu toolchain
[20:07] <mathiaz> zul: same for 5.0
[20:09] <zul> still building with disabling fortify source here ill let you know
[20:12] <zul> still the same thing
[21:16] <N6REJ> can anyone help me get mail setup fora  users?
[21:16] <N6REJ> i've forgotten how to add a new user to the mail system
[21:31] <nicodarious> hello
[21:31] <nicodarious> anyone here familiar with software RAID setup?
[21:32] <nicodarious> or is anyone actually here and not roaming other rooms?
[21:33] <andol> nicodarious: Yes, I've got some experience using mdadm.
[21:34] <nicodarious> oh great.  that might come in handy.
[21:34] <nicodarious> i have two software raid chips
[21:35] <nicodarious> one is onboard nvidia raid (which i want to bypass) and the other is a VIA VT6421 chip software RAID daughterboard.
[21:35] <nicodarious> i have installed dmraid but it automatically wants to see the nvidia.  it even set up the /dev/mapper/nvidia_* and won't let me do anything with the VIA chip.
[21:36] <nicodarious> mdadm, i don't know about.  i was advised to go with dmraid with RAID 0 though.  do you have any input on this?  i'm way open for suggestions
[21:38] <andol> nicodarious: No idea, I've only use "pure" software raid. In other words, normal disc controllers with all magic happening in the operating system.
[21:40] <nicodarious> well, they are both software raid sets
[21:41] <nicodarious> theres no hardware raid here, or everything would happen in the BIOS before bootup
[21:41] <nicodarious> and i would already be in 4TB heaven
[21:42] <nicodarious> i have worked with lvm before but i have never worked with dmraid before and i need some guidance... but the web isn't helping out much.
[21:43] <nicodarious> everything seems to cover 'installing into lvm or mdadm' but nothing covers setting up dmraid on several hdds that are just for storage.
[21:43] <nicodarious> i have been working with this for two days now and i haven't found a site yet that helps out.  maybe you know one by any chance?
[21:44] <andol> well, still no experience using dmraid
[21:47] <nicodarious> ok.  thanks though.
[21:47] <nicodarious> maybe i might run across a site somewhere for dmraid
[21:53] <nicodarious> anyone know about dmraid by any chance?
[22:36] <mathiaz> nicodarious: why do you want to use dmraid in your setup? you should try to use software RAID only - it's easier to setup unless you want to share the raid array with windows
[22:38] <jmarsden> nicodarious: Go with "pure" software RAID, it is easier, portable to a different disk controller/motherboard in an emergency, and just generally a saner approach than using "fakeraid" chips
[22:50] <nicodarious> i though dmraid WAS software raid?
[22:50] <nicodarious> dmraid discovers, activates, deactivates and displays properties of software RAID sets (eg, ATARAID) and contained DOS partitions.
[22:51] <nicodarious> dmraid uses the Linux device-mapper to create devices with respective mappings for the ATARAID sets discovered.