[00:00] <semtido> raven_: when did the sound stop?
[00:00] <georgy_28> semtido, : so, then you bluetooth device is off
[00:00] <raven_> semtido some time while using vmware 6,5
[00:00] <Dustin> How can I update my 星际译王
[00:00] <raven_> i have been using it for two days
[00:00] <aes52>  Hi does anyone have CTRL-ALT-PLUS working to change resolution?
[00:00] <raven_> and today i made a new XP vm
[00:00] <raven_> and the sound wasnt working
[00:00] <semtido> raven_: any chance it has to do with volume?
[00:00] <raven_> so i was troubleshooting, and then realized my linux wasnt playing either
[00:00] <semtido> georgy_28: how can i turn it on?
[00:00] <raven_> so i rebooted and still fail
[00:00] <Zzeiss> snuitje: Oh, so it will keep around old kernel versions?  Good.  I had one distro that would only keep the last two kernel releases.  Mmighty annoying, that was.
[00:00] <raven_> and no, semtido, def. not volume in alsamixer, volume props, or the button
[00:00] <snuitje> Zzeiss: new versions of packages can have new conflicts, and new packages can have 'replaces' attributes that tell it to ditch old packages in favour of the new one
[00:01] <benoka> SimAtWork: linkspeed is at 108 Mbit
[00:01] <snuitje> Zzeiss: it'll definately keep old kernel versions
[00:01] <Zzeiss> snuitje: Ok.  That's excellent!
[00:01] <semtido> raven_: try the folowing int the console: sudo pkill pulseaudio followed by sudo alsa force-reload
[00:01] <georgy_28> semtido : do you try with the keyboard ?
[00:01] <a1len> Hi. I'm having problems making an iso out of a bunch of .bin's and a .cue... I'm figuring that I need to combine the .bin's, but I can open them with nano or gedit; it tells me that the character encoding is unknown... does anyone know what I'd do?
[00:01] <semtido> georgy_28: yes, with fn-f8
[00:01] <alpha> hi all
[00:01] <Lovalangusta> Need to make an account for my MSN so i can chat with my friends through Pidgin. My friends use MSN  (windows version). I need server settings where can i find these? anybody know ?
[00:02] <raven_> no good. semtido
[00:02] <raven_> was already using alsa if im not mistaken
[00:03] <semtido> Lovalangusta: how about trying emesene? really good for that protocol
[00:03] <hypyrbole> What's the normal way of getting an operator to descend into sudirectories? I want to run [flac --picture=cover.jpg] but I need it to operate on all flacs in sub-dirs below [~/Music/flac/miles davis/the complete*]
[00:03] <raven_> due to pulseaudio phailing at life
[00:03] <semtido> raven_: didnt that work?
[00:03] <raven_> no
[00:03] <gnutron> Lovalangusta: google should find those settings for you
[00:03] <semtido> raven_: hmm... that usually does the trick for me
[00:03] <Lovalangusta> allright I'll try it out ^
[00:03] <snuitje> allen: cue/bin files allow multiple tracks on a disc and other cd stuff you can't do with an iso...
[00:03] <georgy_28> semtido : try  lsmod | grep bluetooth
[00:03] <raven_> wait
[00:04] <raven_> it did
[00:04] <semtido> raven_: :P
[00:04] <raven_> apparently my tests were bs
[00:04] <semtido> georgy_28: bluetooth              61924  6 rfcomm,bnep,sco,l2cap
[00:04] <Lovalangusta> Should i search for MSN server settings or MSN protocol?
[00:04] <semtido> georgy_28: ?
[00:04] <raven_> sudo beep and echo y > /dev/audio and echo y | cat /dev/audio produce nothin
[00:04] <Lokian> Anyone get Ubuntu operating on their compaq presario c700 after a ram upgrade?
[00:05] <semtido> raven_: i really dont know much about that..
[00:05] <mkerd> Lovalangusta, what server settings are you talking about?
[00:05] <gnutron> Lovalangusta: start with pidgin +msn settings  ...maybe
[00:05] <mo> Lokian, you propably won't find anyone. give us more details about your problem
[00:05] <snuitje> Lokian: i presume you can't get it to boot? did you try booting from another media such as a bootable cd?
[00:06] <georgy_28> semtido : module is loaded, you have to find a way to turn your device on
[00:06] <themiddleman> anyone know if theres a way to take a screenshot of a window that is larger than the screen?  ive tried the take screenshot program and it only takes the screen size screenshot
[00:06] <semtido> georgy_28: any ideas?
[00:06] <dmb> is there a way to restart the pulseaudio server?
[00:06] <Lokian> snuitje, ubuntu loads and stops at loading postgres, and forces me into a recovery shell
[00:06] <semtido> dmb: sudo pkill pulseaudio
[00:06] <mkerd> themiddleman, does alt+print screen work?
[00:06] <gnutron> themiddleman: try alt+print-screen
[00:06] <snuitje> Lokian: try running memtest86+
[00:06] <themiddleman> hmm
[00:06] <ubuntu_> How do i activate the graphics card drivers
[00:06] <georgy_28> semtido : depend on your laptop
[00:06] <Lokian> will do i'll brb with more info. thanks all
[00:06] <dmb> semtido, how do you start it after that?
[00:07] <semtido> dmb: mine works with sudo alsa force-reload
[00:07] <themiddleman> mkerd, gnutron nope
[00:07] <semtido> georgy_28: its a toshiba laptop... satellite... the keys are fn+f8
[00:07] <leetsweden> ...
[00:07] <themiddleman> mkerd, gnutron just conforms to the screen size
[00:08] <gnutron> themiddleman: that makes sense, try resizing the window alt-f7 i think
[00:08] <semtido> gnutron: alt+f7 wont resize it...
[00:09] <gnutron> themiddleman: compiz messes up those hotkeys undergnome fyi
[00:09] <themiddleman> gnutron, thats the thing, i need a high res shot of a huge window
[00:09] <themiddleman> pssh who uses compiz?
[00:09] <semtido> themiddleman: me XD
[00:09] <snuitje> themiddleman: you could increase the workspace size
[00:09] <themiddleman> hey...
[00:09] <mkerd> I set up openssh-server to use sftp, I've used DirectoryChroot so the user is locked in a folder for sftp. Now  I want to share files that are in another folder and I *think* that's what symlinks is for but from what I've googled that doesn't work with sftp. Do I have to copy the files to the sftp folder and use up double the disk space or is there a better way of solving this?
[00:10] <themiddleman> gnomes?
[00:10] <snuitje> themiddleman: so you get a large virtual screen
[00:10] <kebomix> hello , how to hack wireless networks passwords under ubuntu ?
[00:10] <themiddleman> snuitje, is that making gnomes screen bigger?  can i pan around that?
[00:10] <semtido> kebomix: i don't think that information is right for you XD
[00:10] <Sierradump> Can someone help a NEWB get my B43 WiFi working in 8.10!
[00:10] <snuitje> !ontopic | kebomix
[00:10] <Sierradump> I am getting the message "  Firware file b43/ucode5.fw not found "
[00:11] <mkerd> kebomix, I think kismet does that
[00:11] <leetsweden> yes
[00:11] <Sierradump> It points me to a link to fix it but I am clueless with what to do!
[00:11] <snuitje> Sierradump: broadcom?
[00:11] <mcphail> mkerd: i doubt there would be a problem with symlinks. If so, use hard links instead
[00:11] <georgy_28> semtido, : install fnfxd -->  ACPI and hotkey daemon for Toshiba laptops and try again
[00:11] <Sierradump> Snuitje: Yes, broadcom
[00:11] <gnutron> themiddleman: buy a huge monitor is the only fix that i can think of...
[00:11] <snuitje> Sierradump: you need the firmware from the winthing install cd
[00:12] <Sierradump> ?
[00:12] <snuitje> Sierradump: i mean the broadcom install cd for winthing
[00:12] <Sierradump> Can you PM me?
[00:12] <mkerd> mcphail, well I tried pasting a symlink there and it didn't work for me. I'll read up on hardlinks. Thanks.
[00:12] <snuitje> Sierradump: nope
[00:12] <Sierradump> haha
[00:12] <themiddleman> gnutron, yeah, i was thinking just get 2 dualhead video cards and 4 screens :P
[00:12] <kebomix> #kismet
[00:12] <Sierradump> Okay so I have a working XP machine with the driver (and I have the .exe driver itself)
[00:12] <konglingyun> #ubuntu-cn
[00:12] <semtido> georgy_28: great tip thanks
[00:12] <Sierradump> what exactly do I do with this?
[00:13] <georgy_28> semtido  : np
[00:13] <snuitje> Sierradump: which ubuntu release?
[00:13] <semtido> georgy_28: i installed and now?
[00:13] <Sierradump> 8.10 intrepid (64 bit)
[00:13] <semtido> georgy_28: i do fn+f8 and it does nothing
[00:13] <georgy_28> semtido, : try fn+f8 again, then hciconfig in a console
[00:14] <semtido> georgy_28: same result!
[00:14] <hmw_lfs> i accidently activated compiz, now i cant use gnome anymore. i killalled compiz, and now i see the desktop and the icons, but i cant get to the fusion-icon to disable compiz for the next restart. how can i set metacity?
[00:14] <snuitje> help.ubuntu.com doesn't seem to work here, anyone else gets that?
[00:15] <konglingyun> #ubuntu-cn
[00:15] <SOURdiesel> hmw_lfs: fusion-icon > select window manager >
[00:15] <hmw_lfs> i can access help.ubuntu.com
[00:15] <georgy_28> semtido : sorry, don't have anoter solution Ask in the channel again, maybe someone else are smarter then me ;)
[00:15] <hmw_lfs> SOURdiesel - the icon isnt visible, due to the missing gnome panel
[00:16] <hmw_lfs> i can access help.ubuntu.com - snuitje
[00:16] <snuitje> hmw_lfs: thx
[00:16] <SOURdiesel> hmw_lfs: system > prefs > ccsm
[00:16] <hmw_lfs> SOURdiesel - not funny, i have NO PANEL
[00:16] <hmw_lfs> SOURdiesel - probably no window manager at all, because i had to killall compiz!
[00:16] <zsquareplusc> malibu: chgrp somegroup somefolder; chmod g+s somefolder;  maybe you need to create a "public" or similar group. the sticky bit on the folder will ensure that new files get the group of the parent folder
[00:17] <snuitje> Sierradump: im looking for the broadcom wireless drivers guide but i cant find it :P its out there on either the help site help.ubuntu.com the doc site doc.ubuntu.com or the wiki wiki.ubuntu.com good luck ^^
[00:17] <gnutron> SOURdiesel: i ran sour diesel in my $90,000.00 peterbilt once, it ran poorly ;p
[00:17] <jackal> hmw_lfs: if you can right click on your desktop, choose change background, then select visual effects tab, and choose None
[00:17] <hmw_lfs> jackal thanks that helped
[00:17] <Sierradump> snuitje:  can I post a link here in the chat? Its from linuxwireless forums - I am just having trouble understanding what it is asking me to do...
[00:18] <devin> how would my secondary harddrive in menu.lst be listed?  (hd0,1?)
[00:18] <qcjn> gnutron: still there ?
[00:18] <gnutron> qcjn: yo
[00:18] <zsquareplusc> devin: hd1 -> 2nd disk  hd1,0 -> 1st partition on 2nd disk
[00:19] <snuitje> Sierradump: there's a ubuntu specific document as well, but sure you can post links here as long as they're relevant
[00:19] <qcjn> gnutron: you talk to me about key, so i can connect when i open the computer
[00:19] <zsquareplusc> devin: what you listes would be the second partition on the 1st drive
[00:19] <Sierradump> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware
[00:19] <Sierradump> That is the link in the DMESG output that it points me to...
[00:19] <Sierradump> Im just confused what I need to do?
[00:19] <mrwes> er...broadcom cards...
[00:19] <Sierradump> Do I simply run the script at the beginning of the instructions?
[00:19] <Sierradump> (ya broadcom)
[00:20] <mrwes> Sierradump, which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[00:20] <DigBig> Anyone using Monodevelop ?
[00:20] <Sierradump> 8.10 intrepid
[00:20] <snuitje> Sierradump: sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[00:20] <gnutron> qcjn: no, the key is for authentication to help prevent being hacked hi-jacked ssh session.
[00:20] <qcjn> gnutron: cause when i start the computer i cant connect ssh, till i connect the user first
[00:20] <snuitje> Sierradump: then bcm43xx-fwcutter
[00:20] <mrwes> Sierradump, goto system | hardware drivers...anything listed?
[00:20] <snuitje> Sierradump: then oops
[00:20] <Sierradump> haha
[00:21] <snuitje> Sierradump: then sudo /usr/share/b43-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh
[00:21] <Sierradump> snuitje - you mention bcm43xx-fwcutter
[00:21] <snuitje> Sierradump: it didn't copy :P
[00:21] <Sierradump> what kernel am I using if I have 8.10 intrepid?
[00:21] <snuitje> Sierradump: yes, apt-get install it
[00:21] <snuitje> 2.6.27
[00:21] <mrwes> Sierradump, please check system | hardware drivers before you install anything else
[00:21] <gnutron> qcjn: i'm afraid i don't follow you. you login to your local box, then... ssh to any remote box running an sshd deamon.
[00:21] <devin> zsquareplusc this is what mine looks like, but when i go to boot into windows i just get a blank screen http://pastebin.com/m79e390
[00:22] <Sierradump> because the instructions list list b43-fwcutter v. 011 for linux 2.6.25 and newer
[00:22] <gnutron> qcjn: daemon. oops
[00:22] <snuitje> Sierradump: take mrwes' advice too =)
[00:22] <Sierradump> okay so I am currently checking system | Hardware drivers...
[00:22] <qcjn> gnutron: what i mean is that when you start a computer you gotta login as a user first
[00:22] <mrwes> Sierradump, 8.10 has much better support for broadcom cards
[00:23] <snuitje> mrwes: doesnt that app use libnotify as well to tell the user it can download restricted drivers to enable certain hw support?
[00:23] <gnutron> qcjn: that is correct sir.
[00:23] <mrwes> nods
[00:23] <zsquareplusc> devin:  the map commands swap primary and secondary drivers. but i'm not sure if the root command above appilies before or after the map :p
[00:23] <qcjn> gnutron: when i start the ssh computer server, i cant reach it with ssh, cause the user hasnt benn opened yet
[00:24] <gnutron> qcjn: ifyou ssh to that box again, and it says host key failed or changed, beware.
[00:24] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: huh? you can only use ssh after a user logged in? this is not the normal way to run ssh
[00:24] <rmitchell> sierradump, how's it coming?
[00:24] <Sierradump> Mrwes:  sorry but I can't find System | hardware drivers?
[00:24] <forcumang> heh
[00:24] <Sierradump> I click on system and I get preferences and administration?
[00:24] <Sierradump> do I look in there first?
[00:24] <gnutron> qcjn: te remote box needs to be running, thats all.
[00:24] <rmitchell> sierradump, administration
[00:25] <forcumang> Sierradump => administration -> hardware
[00:25] <mrwes> er...system | adminstration
[00:25] <Sierradump> got it
[00:25] <mrwes> sorry
[00:25] <devin> zsquareplusc exactly where im confused, i had this issue before but im not sure what i put =/
[00:25] <mrwes> heh
[00:25] <lazukars_> How do you emulute the Mac OS on Ubuntu?
[00:25] <snuitje> mines called "restricted drivers"
[00:25] <Sierradump> System | Administration | Hardware Drivers
[00:25] <qcjn> gnutron: ok, i thought there'd be a way to connect before the user is connected, and you connect the user via ssh
[00:25] <mrwes> yah...that's it
[00:26] <mkerd> lazukars_, with VMWare I'm guessing
[00:26] <zsquareplusc> devin: the hard way: reboot, press "e" in the grub menu, and edit that line to use root hd1,1. if that works edit menu.lst afterwards ;-)
[00:26] <snuitje> and a hacked kernel
[00:26] <devin> ill give it a go
[00:27] <gnutron> qcjn: the remote box starts the ssh server on boot, nobody needs to be logged in, check by typing 'w' or 'who' in the remote term. you'll see only yourself
[00:27] <Sierradump> I get a message that says "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system"  but it then lists 4 choices.  I have Broadcom B43 wireless driver, Nvidia accelerated graphics driver (v 173), broadcom STA wireless driver, and nvidia accelerated graphics driver (version 177) [Reccomended]
[00:27] <Tryfon> i have accidently set the function keys on and there are permanently enabled how can i fix this?
[00:27] <mrwes> hrmmm....turn on the STA driver
[00:27] <the_dark_warrio> I've changed my password with 'passwd', and when I logged in again, the Network Manager asked me a password and I had to use the last pass I had. Is this wanted?
[00:28] <snuitje> mrwes: what's the difference, b43 or sta?
[00:28] <zsquareplusc> gnutron, qcjn are you refering to using VNC only after a user logged in?
[00:28] <rmitchell> sierradump, looks like their avaliable, but not installed or enabled
[00:28] <zsquareplusc> the_dark_warrio: change password in sys->prefs->personal..
[00:29] <gnutron> zsquareplusc: i was referring to ssh only.
[00:29] <Sierradump> Okay b43 = "License=free, Fwcutter is a tool which can extract firmware from various source files.  It's written for BCM43xx Driver Files""
[00:29] <Tryfon> i have accidently set the function keys on and there are permanently enabled how can i fix this?
[00:29] <Sierradump> Broadcom STA " License=Proprietary " and there is no description
[00:29] <qcjn> gnutron: i'm talking about logging in, before a user is logged in..so i can do it via ssh..
[00:29] <zsquareplusc> gnutron: yes, you were :-) but i'm not sure about q cjn :-)
[00:29] <mrwes> Sierradump, which card do you have?
[00:29] <gnutron> zsquareplusc: whats the value of z square plus the speed of light anyway? :)
[00:29] <mrwes> Sierradump, type lspci in a terminal
[00:30] <qcjn> gnutron: my remote computer, is only a computer...no keyboard, no screen
[00:30] <Sierradump> typing lspci 1 sec
[00:30] <Sierradump> (where should I post output - I saw a message to someone earlier not to type it here_
[00:30] <mrwes> Sierradump, it's at the bottom of the output
[00:30] <zsquareplusc> gnutron: its the formula to calculate the mandelbrot set :-)
[00:30] <gnutron> qcjn: thats a headless box, no problem.
[00:30] <snuitje> !pastebin
[00:30] <Sierradump> Oh
[00:30] <mrwes> just tell us....
[00:31] <mrwes> 02:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)
[00:31] <gnutron> zsquareplusc: cool, fractals make chaos not chaos, way cool.
[00:31] <Sierradump> I have the "Broadcom BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[00:31] <snuitje> i guess b43 then -_-'
[00:31] <LAquatique_> Hi! I am setting up my vista machine to dual boot ubuntu. I shrunk my vista disk as much as I could, then ran my Linux boot cd, ran setup etc. The instructions that I read said that I should check "available space" for the partition to dual boot. However, when I checked that it never really verified that that was exactly what would happen, but it gave me lots of warnings about how partitions...
[00:31] <mrwes>  yah :)
[00:31] <Sierradump> (thats really cool! shows me everything!!!)
[00:31] <LAquatique_> ...will overwrite data. I just would like to be very clear- if I select "available space" for the partition during setup, none of my vista data will be overwritten, right?
[00:31] <AlfredHitchcock> oh
[00:31] <qcjn> gnutron: so, if i restart my computer, i can login from ssh, even if there is no user logged in " thats it "
[00:32] <rmitchell> sierradump, thats the command i told you about earlier
[00:32] <mrwes> Sierradump, I'd reb00t too
[00:32] <HoppingWombat> hello
[00:32] <Tryfon> i have accidently set the function keys on and there are permanently enabled how can i fix this?
[00:32] <mo> does the alternate installer install only
[00:32] <gnutron> qcjn: if sshd is running, then yes
[00:32] <qcjn> gnutron: and i didn't understand nothing about "who"
[00:32] <zsquareplusc> mo, yes, it is no live cd
[00:32] <rmitchell> mo, the alt install does not have the livecd function
[00:32] <Sierradump> So I should choose the B43 Wireless Driver ?  The description says it is FWCutter and license is Free.  The broadcom STA wireless driver says "proprietary"?
[00:33] <leetsweden> yey
[00:33] <Sierradump> Just want to make sure I give you guys accurate information so I don't screw up the system!
[00:33] <mo> thanks :)
[00:33] <mrwes> Sierradump, you can try both -- one at a time to see which one works
[00:33] <qcjn> gnutron: i don t know if it s sshd...what i ve started was ssh..sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[00:33] <gnutron> qcjn: who is a command to see who is logged in to that machine upon which the command is issued.
[00:33] <mrwes> Sierradump, gotta get burned to learn :)
[00:33] <mrwes> heh
[00:33] <Sierradump> So should I do the B43 first?
[00:33] <Sierradump> (or does it matter?)
[00:34] <mrwes> try the B43
[00:34] <Sierradump> hahah
[00:34] <mrwes> :)
[00:34] <Sierradump> Okay trying b43.
[00:34] <snuitje> LAquatique_: it's manual, resize and use available space or use entire disk
[00:34] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: yep, ssh start but the process is named sshd, you can check what's running with "ps ax"
[00:34] <mrwes> qcjn, it's whois no spaces
[00:34] <Sierradump> (rmitchell: hey! ya I just tried the lspci; pretty cool!)
[00:34] <shiv> I am not able to move panels? When I right click it says About Panels, and Help
[00:34] <snuitje> shiv: did you unlock the panel?
[00:34] <mo> zsquareplusc, rmitchell ... i hit enter before i wrote my question completly. thanks for those kind answers to such an stupid question :)
[00:34] <qcjn> mrwes: ok, im gonna try it right now
[00:34] <LAquatique_> snuitje: yes I was talking abotu the "use available space" option
[00:35] <gnutron> qcjn: the daemon should start on boot if installed, no login to desktop required if thats what you mean.
[00:35] <Mr_Cool59> can someone tell me why when i ture on visual effects i can not read any drop down menu from programs i install on ubuntu 8.10
[00:35] <zsquareplusc> shiv: the panels can be "fixed" is that checked in the rightclick menu?
[00:35] <leetsweden> so
[00:35] <rmitchell> mo, no problem, the alt install does other things in addition to just your basic install too
[00:35] <gnutron> Mr_Cool59: compiz has it's caveats
[00:35] <lazukars_> What would be a good budget starter Mac.  One that will only be used to use Cocoa and other tools for makeing an iphone app.
[00:35] <qcjn> gnutron: yes thats what i mean
[00:36] <tater_> hello
[00:36] <shiv> zsquareplusc: I do not get that on the right click
[00:36] <Japsu> how do I disable dmix in intrepid?
[00:36] <snuitje> lazukars_: they sell the mac mini for that but this ain't the channel
[00:36] <gnutron> qcjn: youre locked and loaded now mate
[00:36] <Japsu> it's mixing my 44,1 kHz stuff in 48 kHz, that's simply stupid
[00:36] <Japsu> (m-audio delta 2496, ice1712)
[00:36] <tater_> can someone tell me a program to convert my dvd files that i burned onto the computer so i can make a backup copy of it
[00:36] <mo> rmitchell, i know.... :) my real question was which packages the alternate installer does install (only ubuntu-minimal & ubuntu-gnome) ... because my installation broke during tasksel
[00:37] <leetsweden> haha
[00:37] <leetsweden> hmm
[00:37] <rmitchell> @ lazukars_: unless you're gonna throw ubuntu on it :)
[00:37] <mrwes> tater_, converted to what? avi?
[00:37] <Sierradump> mrwes:  Okay it now says "Broadcom B43 wireless driver is activated and currently in use"  should I try a reboot and check my DMESG ?
[00:37] <tater_> yes
[00:37] <mrwes> Sierradump, yah...
[00:37] <gnutron> qcjn: in a xterm type 'ps aux'  yu should see sshd running
[00:37] <tater_> right now its into vob.?
[00:37] <Sierradump> (rebooting)
[00:37] <qcjn> mrwes: i don't see now result about user with whois
[00:37] <lazukars_> What would be a good budget starter Mac.  One that will only be used to use Cocoa and other tools for makeing an iphone app.
[00:37] <lazukars_> What would be a good budget starter Mac.  One that will only
[00:37] <mrwes> tater_, try Avidemux
[00:37] <lazukars_>                    be used to use Cocoa and other tools for makeing an iphone
[00:37] <lazukars_>                    app.
[00:37] <lazukars_> sorry
[00:37] <FloodBot2> lazukars_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:37] <lazukars_> What would be a good budget starter Mac.  One that will only be used to use Cocoa and other tools for makeing an iphone app.
[00:38] <qcjn> gnutron: ok ps aux
[00:38] <shiv> zsquareplusc: I am just doing apt-get update and will restart and see if that has fixed anything
[00:38] <Mr_Cool59> what is that
[00:38] <rmitchell> sierradump, aren't there nvidia drivers too, might wanna get more for your power cycle
[00:38] <mrwes> qcjn, try typing users
[00:39] <ghindo> Hi, I am trying to dual boot with Fedora 10 and Ubuntu 8.10, but now I can't boot into Ubuntu.  It's not even showing up in GRUB.  Help?
[00:39] <gnutron> qcjn: ps aux is rather large output, 'ps aux |less' will make it scrollable.
[00:39] <mrwes> qcjn, what exactly are you looking to find?
[00:39] <zsquareplusc> mo, ubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-server depending on what you want
[00:39] <Sierradump> Lazukars:  Get the macbook pro; onsale now for $1700.  Not a desktop but good for what you want to do.
[00:39] <snuitje> he left
[00:39] <phorensic> ghindo did you try reinstalling grub? And is it only a dual boot or triple boot, how many partitions?
[00:39] <Sierradump> rmitchell:  Yup got 2 different proprietary drivers - don't know which ones I need though.  Will look at that after I get WiFi!
[00:40] <mrwes> qcjn, or type ps aux | grep <whateveryourlookingor>
[00:40] <gnutron> Sierradump: that macbook pro is a beautiful machine imho.
[00:40] <mo> zsquareplusc, and nothing more? such as dmcrypt packages or mdadm extra features
[00:40] <exodus_ms> is it possible to run VirtualBox on a thin client?
[00:40] <rmitchell> sierradump, those graphics drivers?
[00:40] <zsquareplusc> mrwes: or grep  [w]hatever to make grep not find itself :-)
[00:40] <LAquatique_> snuitje?
[00:40] <ghindo> phorensic: No, I haven't tried reinstalling GRUB; how do I do that?  And it should be only two partitions, but this is my first time trying a dual boot.
[00:40] <snuitje> oh hai
[00:41] <Sierradump> gnutron:  I just got a macbook for a client of mine and MAN - I used to say mac sucks but that thing ran windows XP better in a virtual machine (using fusion) than ANY xp specific computer I have ever bought!
[00:41] <qcjn> gnutron: i see sshd, but like tou said it was a long list
[00:41] <digitalfyre> um, guys where do I update my drivers in Ubuntu (latest release)
[00:41] <Sierradump> and it wasn't even a macbook pro!
[00:41] <digitalfyre> I have MSI mobo, but I am not quite sure what to do to update the drivers
[00:41] <Sierradump> it was the 1300 macbook.
[00:41] <zsquareplusc> mo, it may be more. but each of these two should drag in quite a lot of packages
[00:41] <rmitchell> my macbook is currently running ubuntu, nice machine
[00:41] <gnutron> Sierradump: it's a better box than any ms windows box, imo
[00:41] <Sierradump> gnutron - I agree.
[00:42] <Sierradump> It almost made me want to go out and buy one - but does anyone else see the prices they are charging as ridiculous for the hardware that comes inside?
[00:42] <Tryfon> i have accidently set the function keys on and there are permanently enabled how can i fix this?
[00:42] <phorensic> ghindo, look that one up i don't wanna screw you over... do you know if you are using the same partition for swap space? I know one time My windows partition was screwed because I was trying to triple boot and I had too many partitions. Windows has to be a logical partition and somehow the 3rd OS i installed forced windows to become an extended partition rendering it useless
[00:42] <Sierradump> I mean that $1300 macbook had a 2.0ghz Core 2 Duo, with 2GB of DDR3...
[00:42] <Sierradump> Just didn't seem fair!
[00:42] <snuitje> digitalfyre: you get your updates all in one place, it'll tell you when there are any
[00:42] <qcjn> gnutron: ok, i m gonna try it..i m gonna restart my remote computer
[00:42] <gnutron> Sierradump: itsa unix based OS, not to mention a 10,000 rpm scsi drive, they rule
[00:42] <phorensic> !grub ghindo
[00:42] <LAquatique_> snutije: sorry, maybe I typed your name wrong last time. Anyway, I just wanted to be sure that the "use available space" option would not delete my vista data
[00:42] <mo> zsquareplusc, im just not sure if i should start installation again (from cd this time ... tried from usb stick ... horrible ...) or install all packages by hand
[00:42] <rmitchell> sierradump, i wish i could build a laptop as easy as i can throw together a desktop, but i digress...
[00:42] <ghindo> !grub
[00:42] <phorensic> !grub
[00:42] <Sierradump> No the $1300 macbook had a 5400RPM sata drive.
[00:43] <snuitje> LAquatique_: it's snuitje -_-
[00:43] <mrwes> !screen mrwes
[00:43] <zsquareplusc> mo, you want a server or desktop?
[00:43] <mrwes> er
[00:43] <Tryfon> i have accidently set the function keys on and there are permanently enabled how can i fix this?
[00:43] <phorensic> anyone installed virtualbox in ibex
[00:43] <mo> zsquareplusc, desktop
[00:43] <snuitje> Tryfon: press the Fn key again?
[00:43] <LAquatique_> snuitje: Ah, sorry, I must have read it wrong. My apologies- was having trouble reading it.
[00:44] <phorensic> Sorry. I am having freezing issues installing windows in virtualbox after i installed ibex
[00:44] <gnutron> Sierradump: thx, i thought macs all used scsi drives.
[00:44] <zsquareplusc> Tryfon: function keys? F1..F12? or do you mean the numlock key on the number pad
[00:44] <snuitje> LAquatique_: thas ok, it's dutch
[00:44] <Sierradump> rmitchell: funny you should mention that - this laptop I just put 8.10 on is a crappy HP I got for free (the lady gave it ot me when she got the macbook )  I bought the TL-60 processor (2.0ghz AMD 64 X2 turion) and 2gig ram for $140 on ebay... SO $140 later I have a pretty decent machine to play with Ubuntu !!!
[00:45] <mrwes> Sierradump, all my computer; desktops and laptops are dead machines from co-workers...hehe
[00:45] <Sierradump> okay my dmesg is different now
[00:45] <LAquatique_> snuitje: ah, well I understand, people misspell my name all the time too. So, will "use available space" for sure not delete my data?
[00:45] <gnutron> qcjn: do you know the command
[00:45] <mrwes> Sierradump, never paid a penny
[00:45] <zsquareplusc> mo, then installing ubuntu-desktop (or [kx]ubuntu-desktop) should give you what you need. if encryptin is still missing and you like to use it, install then afterwards. and.. you can laso restart "taskel" if you want.
[00:45] <qcjn> gnutron: no
[00:45] <Sierradump> mrwes: I know how that is! I just scored a p4 3.4 XTREME the other day - just had a bad HD... Guy says he wants a new machine now!
[00:45] <Sierradump> hahah
[00:45] <gregbrady> Hi there, I have a 64 bit Wubi installed 8.10 installation here and I can't seem to play videos on youtube.  I'm not really sure what to install to solve this issue.
[00:45] <rmitchell> sierradump, decent specs, i need to get a few more gigs to cram in my macbook. Apple's hardware is just so pretty though...
[00:45] <mrwes> Sierradump, does the network manager show up?
[00:46] <gnutron> qcjn: sudo shutdown -r now    -r = reboot   -h = halt
[00:46] <snuitje> gregbrady: did you install gnash?
[00:46] <Sierradump> mrwes: where am I looking for the network manager?
[00:46] <qcjn> gnutron: now i was stopping icecast2 & mpd...
[00:46] <Sierradump> up right corner?
[00:46] <mo> zsquareplusc, well, yes i think that should do the job... and is less work. thank you ..
[00:46] <Sierradump> dmesg posts lots of WLAN0: messages
[00:46] <gregbrady> snuitje: I installed some flash equivalent.  how do I check?
[00:46] <snuitje> LAquatique_: i think so but i broke my browser, so i cant find references
[00:46] <jack__> 有说中文的没有？
[00:46] <qcjn> gnutron: ok
[00:46] <Sierradump> mrwes:  gonna see if I can use pastebin to give you this dmesg
[00:46] <snuitje> LAquatique_: theres an install guide online though, google 'installing ubuntu' and you'll find it
[00:47] <mrwes> Sierradump, upper right hand corner; anything with blue bars showing?
[00:47] <wartalker> jack__: /join ubuntu-cn
[00:47] <LAquatique_> snuitje: oh, okay. Sorry if I was seeming impatient. The idea of losing my data stresses me out. I will go read the install guide. Thanks so much for your help
[00:47] <zsquareplusc> mo, you also use apt-get. as the package has a lot of dependencies, it will show these and ask you for permission anyway.
[00:47] <Mr_Cool59> can someone tell me why when i ture on visual effects i can not read any drop down menu from programs i install on ubuntu 8.10
[00:47] <ghindo> phorensic: I'm not entirely sure GRUB is the issue - it looks like the paged linke by ubottu refers to botched Windows installs.  I'm not sure if the same applies to Linux installs.
[00:47] <qcjn> gnutron: time expected
[00:47] <wartalker> jack__: /join #ubuntu-cn
[00:47] <gregbrady> snuitje: I checked via synaptic and yes, I installed gnash
[00:48] <snuitje> LAquatique_: no worries, before the installer does anything, it'll tell you what's its going to do
[00:48] <snuitje> LAquatique_: so better check that
[00:48] <gnutron> qcjn: sudo shutdown -r now  <-- you must type 'now' or specify a time.
[00:48] <LAquatique_> snuitje: yes it seemed to imply that data might be erased so i chickened out
[00:48] <NotADJ> Hey, is http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3174/3034935516_1fd3a41756_b.jpg an HD error, or an FS error.
[00:48] <qcjn> ok
[00:48] <phorensic> ghindo: Reinstalling Grub will make grub rescan the drive for OS's on each partition and then recreate the menu
[00:48] <mo> zsquareplusc, kk, i'll try all that
[00:48] <qcjn> gnutron: ok
[00:48] <mo> gn8
[00:48] <Sierradump> mrwes:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/77575/
[00:49] <snuitje> LAquatique_: if it says 'remove partition #1' or so, then yeah, go back and change it
[00:49] <gnutron> qcjn: linux rox dont it tho'
[00:49] <LAquatique_> snuitje: so it should not be removing any partitions?
[00:49] <phorensic> ghindo: If possible, backup any necessary files, then reinstall grub
[00:49] <snuitje> LAquatique_: not in the common resize-windows-and-install-behind-it scenario, no
[00:50] <Sierradump> mrwes:  nothing in top right corner with blue bars, but I have a network cable in the machine? Do i need to unplug that before it switches to WiFi?  I DID NOTICE THAT THE BLUE LIGHT ON FRONT OF LAPTOP CAME ON!  (was previously orange before using the B43 proprietary drivers!)
[00:50] <ghindo> phorensic: I fortunately backed everything up before installing Fedora, but I'll check out reinstalling GRUB.  Thanks for the help!
[00:50] <qcjn> gnutron: yes it does..more i find out about it ...the more i like it
[00:50] <gnutron> qcjn: me too
[00:50] <LAquatique_> snuitje: okay, I see that according to the guide you mentioned I was doing it wrong
[00:50] <LAquatique_> I'm extremely glad I chickened  out
[00:50] <rmitchell> sierradump, that light is a good sign, do you see an icon in the tray, i think it looks kinda like a cat5 port.. lightish square?
[00:51] <snuitje> LAquatique_: ok, when you're in the live cd btw, clicking system > help and support will get you the manual as well
[00:51] <mrwes> Sierradump, yah try that...reboot without using the cat cable plugged in
[00:51] <qcjn> gnutron: i'm hearing it shutting down..when i learned about mpd, i loved it & theres more to come
[00:51] <Sierradump> rmitchell: negative but I have a cat5 cable plugged in.
[00:51] <Sierradump> Going to unplug it and see what happens...
[00:51] <LAquatique_> snuitje: great
[00:51] <rmitchell> sierradump, i think the reboot is not needed
[00:51] <zsquareplusc> LAquatique_: backups are a neat thing. it gives you confidence that your errors are not the last thing you do ;-)
[00:51] <mrwes> Sierradump, the putput of dmesg assigned a MAC address to the wifi card
[00:51] <Sierradump> well I unplugged the cat5 and I got a "disconnected ethernet cable" popup
[00:51] <LAquatique_> snuitje: I think I can figure it out from here. I need to backup my main files too so that there's no chance of something bad happened
[00:51] <snuitje> !zsquareplusc++
[00:52] <Sierradump> Mrwes:  is a reboot required to get a connection going?
[00:52] <zsquareplusc> snuitje: no, no c++, use python instead :-)
[00:52] <mrwes> Sierradump, I would
[00:52] <rmitchell> sierradump, there should be a tray icon, if NetworkManager is running
[00:52] <snuitje> zsquareplusc: and on python it's zsquareplusc += 1?
[00:52] <pastr1> hi again
[00:52] <qcjn> gnutron: No route to host
[00:52] <mortal1> does anyone here have a good estimate as to how long it would take to turn a avi into an mpg on a 2.16 dual core?
[00:52] <rmitchell> the drivers in place, a reboot is unnessesary i think, i switch between wired and wireless on the fly
[00:52] <kavok2> Well I've got a kubuntu question but it won't let me into #kubuntu. Im trying to install the proprietary nvidia driver on my laptop (Kubuntu) under the Hardware Drivers tool. But when I click activate it says downloading for about a second and then nothing happens.
[00:53] <snuitje> LAquatique_: allright, have fun and take care :)
[00:53] <gnutron> qcjn: just dont forget the -r flag or it will not come back up, kind of a nuisance if the box is miles away.
[00:53] <Sierradump> Mrwes / Rmitchell:  I have 2 computers in tray with a red ! - i suspect that is for the cat5 cable... don't see anything for wifi?
[00:53] <LAquatique_> snuitje: thanks- happy holidays and such
[00:53] <Sierradump> Hate to think I need to reboot each time I want to use wifi!
[00:53] <rmitchell> sierradump, click that icon and see what comes up
[00:53] <donaldo> Hello one that you set the subwoofer's laptop in ubuntu?
[00:53] <Sierradump> but I will try a reboot (rebooting now)
[00:53] <qcjn> gnutron: i have put the -r
[00:53] <zsquareplusc> Sierradump: is it a red, down arrow? thats the notice for security updtaes
[00:53] <Sierradump> WOW - clicked the icon and I see wifi!
[00:54] <mrwes> good
[00:54] <rmitchell> sierradump, if you can see the wifi, you're in business
[00:54] <Sierradump> those 2 computers with the red ! show "WIRED NETWORKS" and "WIRELESS NETWORKS"!
[00:54] <Sierradump> gonna see if I can get on WiFi!
[00:54] <Sierradump> (this is kind of fun! hahah)
[00:54] <gregbrady> snuitje: any other ways to enable video in youtube?
[00:54] <pastr1> snuitje its me again. i tried it again .  same thing...  i wrote it down here http://paste.ubuntu.com/77578/
[00:54] <qcjn> gnutron: but now it says No route to host
[00:54] <mrwes> yah...wireless is always fun in Ubunut
[00:54] <gnutron> qcjn: be aware, if it gets its address via DHCP it's address could change, then use nmap to find it.
[00:54] <mrwes> er Ubuntu
[00:54] <Sierradump> got 4 blue bars now!
[00:54] <snuitje> gregbrady: select gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[00:55] <Sierradump> looks like its working!
[00:55] <Sierradump> SWEET!
[00:55] <mrwes> there ya go!
[00:55] <Sierradump> this is cool...
[00:55] <snuitje> gregbrady: in synapic, that'll install the codecs
[00:55] <rmitchell> sierradump, sweet, guess thats the driver you needed :)
[00:55] <mrwes> high fives Sierradump
[00:55] <Sierradump> haha
[00:55] <donaldo> one has run the subwoofers in the toshiba x205 ubuntu?
[00:55] <Sierradump> so I should ignore the Broadcom STA driver?
[00:55] <snuitje> gregbrady: you might also need gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[00:55] <mrwes> yah
[00:55] <Sierradump> Could that Broadcom STA driver possibly be for something like the built-in modem?
[00:56] <Sierradump> (not that I care about the modem - but hate not installing all drivers for hardware!)
[00:56] <donaldo> #ubuntu-es
[00:56] <gregbrady> snuitje: already installed
[00:56] <gnutron> qcjn: give it a little time, hopefully
[00:56] <kavok2> Does anyone know any other web based clients besides mibbit that won't trigger the proxy thing for the #kubuntu room? :[
[00:56] <rmitchell> sierradump, unless you use the modem, i'd leave it uninstalled, no need to clutter, if you find you need it later, its always there
[00:56] <dreamy> good nigth all
[00:56] <mrwes> Sierradump, you might want to activate the nvidia driver now
[00:56] <snuitje> hmm try this page... just a sec
[00:56] <snuitje> !codecs | gregbrady
[00:57] <Ninina> What is a good partion size for Ubuntu and how much of that should be root and how much home and are there any other parts that should be different partions?
[00:57] <gregbrady> snuitje: that's how I got here
[00:57] <microlith> does anyone know why in 8.10, the only entry in /etc/network/interfaces is the loopback?
[00:57] <qcjn> gnutron: nmap & ping don,t work (ping 192.168.0.102  & nmap 192.168.0.102
[00:57] <snuitje> gregbrady: lol -_-'
[00:57] <mrwes> !scotch | mrwes
[00:57] <Sierradump> mrwes:  so I have 2 listings for the nvidia driver...
[00:57] <zsquareplusc> kavok2: why use a web service? there are so many IRC programs, there is even one by default on your ubuntu
[00:57] <qcjn> gnutron: both don t work
[00:57] <mrwes> heh
[00:57] <mrwes> yah?
[00:57] <Sierradump> How do I know which one to use!
[00:57] <qcjn> gnutron: host unreachable
[00:57] <rmitchell> sierradump, what are they?
[00:57] <snuitje> gregbrady: try this: paste the youtube url on http://www.keepvid.com/ download the mp4 and try to play it
[00:57] <Sierradump> I suppose I should use the one with the [reccomended] label next to it?
[00:58] <mrwes> duh!
[00:58] <kavok2> zsquareplusc: My ubuntu isn't working, which is why im on a XP machine. ;]
[00:58] <rmitchell> sierradump, i'd use the recommened one, its the one i use, 177 i think
[00:58] <georgy_28> qcjn : install nast and do nast -m, you will see your entire network
[00:58] <zsquareplusc> kavok2: firefox? there would be chatzilla add on
[00:58] <Sierradump> YUP 177 is the reccomended, and the other is 173
[00:58] <gregbrady> snuitje: too much work for regular use.  Neat link though!
[00:58] <pastr1> can someone take a look at :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/77578/
[00:58] <qcjn> gnutron: sudo apt-get install nast
[00:58] <snuitje> gregbrady: yeah, i do that all the time when i don't feel like installing gnash or flash
[00:58] <mrwes> Sierradump, are you going to use compiz -- desktop effects?
[00:58] <kavok2> zsquareplusc: Why install a addin or application for something I'll end up using maybe once or twice a year from this particular computer?
[00:58] <rmitchell> sierradump, i think the 173 is an older driver, try the 177 and if it doesn't work, use the other one
[00:58] <snuitje> gregbrady: kindof sucks but better then nothing
[00:59] <Sierradump> mrwes:  not sure what that is!  I would like to play with all the cool stuff! this is really fun!
[00:59] <gregbrady> snuitje: no worries, I have XP in another partition.  It will work
[00:59] <Sierradump> okay, activating 177...
[00:59] <kavok2> Kubuntu won't let me install the Nvidia 177 driver
[00:59] <rmitchell> !compiz
[00:59] <snuitje> gregbrady: you shouldn't need to keep xp just for youtube ;)
[00:59] <mrwes> !single malt | mrwes
[00:59] <mrwes> heh
[00:59] <gregbrady> snuitje: I agree, but alas it is all that works
[00:59] <mrwes> !anything
[01:00] <mrwes> will behave
[01:00] <ThomasHC2> lol
[01:00] <Sierradump> mrwes / rmitchell:  quick question before I do activate nvidia 177 driver --- I saw recently that h.264 hardware accelleration is supported with the 190 version?  My built in graphics card probably doesn't support that - but should I use the newest or the reccomended?
[01:00] <mrwes> Sierradump, I'd use the recommended
[01:00] <rmitchell> sierradump, go with the recommened
[01:00] <rmitchell> at least to start with
[01:01] <qcjn> gnutnast -m ...you must be root, sorry....sudo nast -m..error getting ip source
[01:01] <Sierradump> okay activating 177
[01:01] <gnutron> qcjn: hrm try nmap -v -sP 192.168.0.0/16
[01:01] <snuitje> someone needs to fix obottu on compiz, it still mentions xgl
[01:01] <georgy_28> qcjn : sudo nast ethX -m
[01:01] <snuitje> aiglx has been in use for quite some time now right?
[01:01] <rmitchell> sierradump, i don't think that requires a reboot, you may have to restart x (ctl+alt+backspace)
[01:01] <mrwes> !women
[01:01] <Sierradump> * so I am at work (I know its thanksgiving) but I get to go home here in 20minutes!  When I get home I want to get back in this channel using my new laptop!  What is the IRC chat program of choice!
[01:01] <gregbrady> snuitje: I remember having to disable xgl drivers to get my compiz working
[01:02] <mrwes> wow!
[01:02] <snuitje> xgl 'drivers'? xgl is just another x server
[01:02] <mpee> Sierradump: xchat
[01:02] <zsquareplusc> snuitje: use "/msg ubottu fact is description" to make sugegstions
[01:02] <gregbrady> snuitje: I see there is a Flash driver but it involves ndiswrapper and I'll be it screws up my wireless drivers
[01:02] <mrwes> Sierradump, xchat
[01:02] <Sierradump> can I just do an apt-get xchat?
[01:02] <snuitje> gregbrady: flash, ndis??? wth?
[01:02] <ghindo> Hi, I am trying to dual boot with Fedora 10 and Ubuntu 8.10, but now I can't boot into Ubuntu.  Ubuntu isn't even showing up in GRUB.  Help?
[01:02] <Sierradump> (using mIRC here at work right now)
[01:02] <mrwes> Sierradump, sudo apt-get install xchat
[01:03] <mpee> Sierradump: it will probably be installed already, under Internet
[01:03] <zsquareplusc> ghindo: installed FC after ubuntu=
[01:03] <gregbrady> snuitje: I looked in synaptic and there is a Flash player there, but it wants to install ndiswrapper as well
[01:03] <mrwes> xchat is not installed by default
[01:03] <mrwes> I think.
[01:03] <mpee> that's a bug
[01:03] <mrwes> heh
[01:03] <snuitje> gregbrady: what's the package called?
[01:03] <ghindo> zsquareplusc: Yes, I installed Fedora after Ubuntu.
[01:03] <gregbrady> snuitje: flashplugin-nonfree
[01:03] <rmitchell> sierradump, you can use pidign, which is installed by default, if you don't mind using a messanger for irc
[01:04] <zsquareplusc> ghindo: it's probably just missing from /boot/grub/menu.lst you have to make a file that contains the entries of both of your installs.
[01:04] <qcjn> gnutron: all appears to be down
[01:04] <snuitje> gregbrady: that shouldn't depend on ndiswrapper, maybe it's just trying to upgrade
[01:04] <mrwes> Sierradump, use xchat :)
[01:04] <iclebyte> is there anyway I can break out to a shell during the partitioning stage of the ubuntu-server 8.04 installer? I want to check if mkfs.ext3 is still running but ALT+F2 just changes the background colour =)
[01:04] <ghindo> zsquareplusc: How do I do that?
[01:04] <mrwes> !xchat | Sierradump
[01:04] <mrwes> er
[01:04] <gregbrady> snuitje: hmm, risky?
[01:04] <zsquareplusc> iclebyte: tried F1 too?
[01:04] <snuitje> gregbrady: btw, adobe released a 64-bit flash player for linux, the first 64-bit flash player from adobe
[01:04] <rmitchell> sierradump: xchat.org
[01:04] <mrwes> he must be hidin' the screen from the boss
[01:05] <soros> I notice that unbuntu carries f-spot with the default install... is that safe considering that novell/miguel are conspiraters with microsoft ?
[01:05] <gnutron> qcjn: not good, i dont suppose you can ping either right?
[01:05] <gregbrady> snuitje: yeah....beta stuff, right?
[01:05] <snuitje> gregbrady: installing ndiswrapper ain't risky, installing ndis drivers for windows is
[01:05] <qcjn> georgy_28: error getting ip source
[01:05] <iclebyte> zsquareplusc: F1 and F2 just inverse the colours on the screen.. =(
[01:05] <snuitje> gregbrady: yes, but at least they get their priorities right once ;)
[01:05] <gregbrady> snuitje: ok, let me see what it does.
[01:05] <zsquareplusc> ghindo: so you get into FC right now. i guess they also have a /boot/grub/menu.lst  you could open that file with an editor and copy the files from the ubuntu (you can probably mount the ubuntu partition easily in FC?)
[01:06] <pastr1> can someone help a noob out? http://paste.ubuntu.com/77578/
[01:06] <georgy_28> qjcn ethX mean your lan device can be eth0 or eth1 ....
[01:06] <Sierradump> mrwess / rmitchell:  hmmm --- I clicked activate next to the 177 driver and it popped up asked me for my PW and then says "downloading and installing driver"  but it has been hung here at 0% for about 3 or 4 minutes now?  Is the 177 a large package? Should I at least see it downloading by now???
[01:06] <qcjn> gnutron: could it be that sshd doesn t start on boot
[01:06] <zsquareplusc> iclebyte: hm, i remeber seeing a console. but maybe you need to press enter to start a prompt
[01:06] <mpee> soros: don't be troll
[01:06] <iclebyte> zsquareplusc: i'm already in the installer though.. this is a nightmare
[01:07] <Sierradump> No im not hiding i've been here all day alone :(  gonna get some turkey soon though!  Im having to walk back/forth to the workbench where I got the laptop...
[01:07] <gnutron> qcjn: it's possible, but you should be able to ping it or try vnc
[01:07] <mrwes> Sierradump, did you turn on third party software resources?
[01:07] <snuitje> pastr1: if you can try to debug things btw, you can file a bug report, but you'd have to provide some details otherwise it'll be marked incomplete or invalid
[01:07] <Sierradump> mrwes:  did not turn it on -- the download window just disappeared never made it past 0%
[01:07] <mrwes> Sierradump, System | Adminstration | Software Sources
[01:08] <Sierradump> Where is 3rd party software resources?
[01:08] <Sierradump> ahh
[01:08] <pastr1> snuitje is filing a bug report complicated?
[01:08] <snuitje> pastr1: no, but you'll need a launchpad account
[01:08] <Jarocks> does anyone know if its possible to get garrysmod to run on ubuntu
[01:08] <gregbrady> snuitje: ok, no change, black window
[01:08] <snuitje> gregbrady: in totem?
[01:08] <gnutron> qcjn: i've never had to start ssh manually once installed. maybe its doing a scheduled fsck
[01:09] <qcjn> gnutron: unable to connect to host...but vnc needs a user
[01:09] <microlith> alternate question, I plugged in a usb wifi adaptor and it functions normally. However, upon rebooting the system the adaptor does not associate with the access point until I log in via the gui.
[01:09] <microlith> any ideas?
[01:09] <gregbrady> snuitje: no, with the flash nonfree driver
[01:09] <Sierradump> mrwes:  on the "ubuntu software" tab I have the "proprietary drivers for devices (restricted)" option checked?
[01:09] <snuitje> gregbrady: oh, from adobe.com or through the package?
[01:09] <wos> !su
[01:09] <mrwes> yah
[01:09] <Sierradump> mrwes:  do I need to turn on both of the options under the "third party software" tab?
[01:09] <mrwes> yah
[01:09] <gregbrady> snuitje: synaptic
[01:09] <mpee> microlith: that's normal
[01:09] <mrwes> and then reload
[01:10] <mrwes> er
[01:10] <qcjn> gnutron: be back...i ll unplug my screen & keyboard to plug it to this computer
[01:10] <gnutron> qcjn: if it didntstart, you would get conection refused
[01:10] <snuitje> gregbrady: it isn't neccesarily using the adobe plugin yet, since you can install multiple versions and theres a link in /etc/alternatives that decides which one is used iirc
[01:10] <wos> can anyone tell me why when i type su and enter my password its not giving me permissions?
[01:10] <mpee> wos, because su requires the root password
[01:10] <Sierradump> How do I disconnect from a wireless network????
[01:10] <microlith> mpee: I'd hardly consider it "normal" for a network adaptor to not be functional until login...
[01:10] <Sierradump> haha
[01:10] <zsquareplusc> wos: beacuse root is disabled. use sudo
[01:10] <snuitje> gregbrady: like /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin.so iirc
[01:10] <Sierradump> I plugged the ethernet cable back in and now I am connected to BOTH!
[01:10] <jontec> hey, I am having problems with my rubygems installation... the latest version in the repository (1.2.0) is now out of date for rails... and the repository version locks out the rubygems auto-update (it says we're supposed to use apt-get)... who should I report this to... to get it updated in the repo?
[01:10] <mrwes> su is for loggin in as r00t
[01:10] <mpee> microlith: that's how network-manager works, the config is tied to your login
[01:10] <TokenBad> can anyone help me get ubuntu working right..after installed 8.10 and then install video drivers..I can't get X to start...
[01:10] <gnutron> wos: the root acct. is disabled, su wont work.
[01:10] <snuitje> gregbrady: i have neither installed atm :p
[01:11] <zsquareplusc> wos: su asks for root pass, sudo for user pass.
[01:11] <wos> what is the root password?
[01:11] <microlith> mpee: is there any way, short of installing server then loading ubuntu-desktop, that I can fix that?
[01:11] <Spage1> When using Pidgin to login here it insist to start a chanserv session too. How can I get rid of that (automatic)
[01:11] <usser> !root > wos
[01:11] <gregbrady> snuitje: so frustrating
[01:11] <zsquareplusc> wos: there is none
[01:11] <phorensic1> no root psswd by default
[01:11] <gnutron> wos: root has no pass
[01:11] <mpee> microlith: I think there is, but I'm not sure how it works
[01:12] <Sierradump> *ahh I guess I can just turn the WiFi switch off on the laptop! haha that did the trick!
[01:12] <shiv> zsquareplusc: Finally figured it out. In the gconf-editor I went to /apps/panel/global and locked down was clicked
[01:12] <mrwes> yah Fn + F2
[01:12] <wos> zsquareplusc, is that a security vulnerability?
[01:12] <coders> it
[01:12] <wos> gnutron, too
[01:12] <pastr1> snuitje mmmh ok i think i will do that. i was looking for an easy way to get a look into linux... maybe i will try that other program you suggested some time ago
[01:12] <zsquareplusc> wos: what? that root isnt enabled? thats a protection
[01:12] <gnutron> wos: thats the reasoning behind it, yes.
[01:12] <snuitje> gregbrady: galternatives can change the default plugin, or remove mozilla-plugin-gnash so it'll try to update the alternatives and "fall back" to adobe flash
[01:13] <ConstantineXVI> if you write something in /tmp, how long does it stick around?
[01:13] <snuitje> gregbrady: open about:plugins in firefox to see which one is loaded atm
[01:13] <zsquareplusc> ConstantineXVI: untile next reboot
[01:13] <jontec> !bugs
[01:13] <mrwes> !roaches
[01:13] <mrwes> uh?
[01:13] <meyou_> anyone played warcraft iii in ubuntu?
[01:13] <meyou_> :p
[01:13] <wos> shouldnt i enable a root password for more protection?
[01:14] <snuitje> pastr1: another easy way is to run a virtual machine
[01:14] <edc174> i'm getting an error with nautilus
[01:14] <mrwes> wos: root account is diabled by default in ubuntu
[01:14] <zsquareplusc> wos: NO. the account is disabled. it cant be used to log in now
[01:14] <mrwes> sigh...
[01:14] <mrwes> NO NO
[01:14] <gnutron> wos: not recommended
[01:14] <wos> ok thank yyou
[01:14] <mrwes> wos: you want to run as r00t, run Puppy Linux
[01:14] <mrwes> :)
[01:14] <snuitje> wos: giving root a password can't "protect" you by any means
[01:15] <snuitje> or lindows :P
[01:15] <pastr1> snuitje ok i will google that
[01:15] <gregbrady> snuitje: Shockwave Flash Gnash is disabled
[01:15] <gnutron> wos: it can be enabled, but i'll get yelled at if i tell you.
[01:15] <gregbrady> snuitje: Shockwave Flash 10.0 r12 is enabled
[01:15] <Sierradump> alright guys thanks for the help - going home, eating turkey, and will be back in here in a little bit!
[01:15] <mrwes> Sierradump, l8r
[01:15] <snuitje> pastr1: www.vmware.com has vmware player, you can get pre-made ubuntu vms as well from their site
[01:16] <mrwes> Bitch X is still around?
[01:16] <snuitje> gregbrady: allright so what does about:plugins say?
[01:16] <snuitje> gregbrady: (hidden firefox page)
[01:16] <edc174> when trying to open "Computer" in nautilus, i get an error saying that "Nautilus cannot handle 'computer' locations"
[01:16] <gnutron> mrwes: yes it is, but irssi is better.
[01:16] <gregbrady> snuitje: not seeing it
[01:17] <pastr1> snuitje thanks
[01:17] <mrwes> gnutron, I remember running plain old ircii :)
[01:17] <mrwes> from the term
[01:17] <gregbrady> snuitje: never ming
[01:17] <gregbrady> *mind
[01:17] <gnutron> mrwes: i started with ole' ircII
[01:17] <mrwes> kewl
[01:17] <wookienz> hi, i have the folliwng process running - /usr/sbin/courierlogger -pid=/var/run/courier/imapd-ssl.pid -start -name=imapd-ssl /usr/sbin/couriertcpd -address=0 -maxprocs=40 -maxperip=20 -nodnslookup -noidentlookup 993 /usr/bin/couriertls -server -tcpd /usr/lib/courier/courier/imaplogin /usr/bin/imapd Maildir - i dont use any amil or imap on this svere, safe to remove?
[01:17] <wookienz> server
[01:18] <gregbrady> snuitje: application/x-shockwave-flash enabled
[01:18] <snuitje> sure, remove them with aptitude
[01:18] <microlith> where does 8.10 store the X server config? xorg.conf is... empty
[01:18] <snuitje> or apt-get
[01:18] <mrwes> question: Does Ubuntu desktop actually "log" into ubuntu server?
[01:19] <snuitje> mrwes: it can
[01:19] <ncfi1013_> what is the key combination that is for killing apps that are open
[01:19] <snuitje> mrwes: depends on how pam is configured
[01:19] <mrwes> 8.10 doesn' t use xorg.conf
[01:19] <microlith> mrwes: so I noticed
[01:19] <mrwes> snuitje, pam?
[01:19] <zsquareplusc> mrwes: yre you asking how the X window system works?
[01:19] <gnutron> ncfi1013_:  alt-f4
[01:19] <snuitje> mrwes: pluggable authentication modules, been with linux since about 2.4 or so
[01:19] <ncfi1013_> thank you gnutron
[01:19] <microlith> as it stands, if I don't have a monitor connected, the display comes up as 800x600 and cannot be changed
[01:20] <gnutron> ncfi1013_: anytime
[01:20] <microlith> which makes vnc less than useful
[01:20] <mrwes> snuitje, Ahh...cuz I have two laptops and one desktop, was thinking about making the desktop Ubuntu Server
[01:20] <zsquareplusc> microlith: then why not use vncserver? (separate screen)
[01:20] <gnutron> mrwes: desktop and server are two different animals
[01:20] <mrwes> headless eventually
[01:20] <wos> how do you create a directory in terminal anyone
[01:21] <mrwes> gnutron, yah I know that
[01:21] <gnutron> wos: mkdir
[01:21] <zsquareplusc> gnutron: they are? nah..
[01:21] <snuitje> allright, you want a directory server? i can recommand running a domain server first, and if you like a dhcp server
[01:21] <wos> is there a faster way to find out these commands
[01:21] <microlith> zsquareplusc: I get an annoying disassociation between the desktop I set up, and what I get via vnc (widget theme is different, window colors are different)
[01:21] <mrwes> basically for a file server
[01:21] <qcjn> gnutron: ok, when i went to the remote computer, ti was a black screen, so i've restarted it..Then i tryed to connect without connecting my user in he remote..didn't work..then connected the user..& it worked
[01:21] <gnutron> zsquareplusc: technically arent they?
[01:21] <ncfi1013_> gnutron well i guess what i was talking about was the window that shows all the processes that are open and that gives you the option to kill the process
[01:21] <wos> thanks gnutron !
[01:22] <jontec> where should I go to report a critically out of date package? Do I post this as a bug?
[01:22] <rayunix> ciao
[01:22] <zsquareplusc> gnutron: one installs ubuntu-server the other ubuntu-desktop. bot come from the same package repositories and you can mix if you want
[01:22] <mrwes> ncfi1013_, top ?
[01:22] <gnutron> ncfi1013_: try 'top' in a xterm and read the options
[01:22] <gnutron> zsquareplusc: i see.
[01:22] <Mooc1> can someone help me with evolution
[01:22] <zsquareplusc> gnutron: professional server operators of course dont recoment to "work" on the server as user. so there is no point for a gnome desktop there. but for a home user its ok
[01:23] <ncfi1013_> gnutron, umm...i don't know what 'top' is
[01:23] <zsquareplusc> microlith: with the shared desktop or with a separate "vncserver"?
[01:23] <gregbrady> snuitje: definately a 64 bit driver problem.  I tried a 32 bit version on another machine and all works
[01:24] <gnutron> ncfi1013_: top is a curses program which lists running processes
[01:24] <mrwes> Is Ubuntu Server overkill just for a filer server?
[01:24] <mrwes> er file
[01:24] <snuitje> gregbrady: strange though, the gstreamer codecs should work on 64 bits arch too
[01:24] <zsquareplusc> ncfi1013_: system monitor is the grpahical one, top or htop are console applications for the same purpose
[01:24] <microlith> zsquareplusc: seperate vnc server, the shared desktop looks like I expect
[01:24] <gregbrady> snuitje: apparently not here.
[01:24] <snuitje> gregbrady: and the adobe beta plugin should work as well
[01:24] <zsquareplusc> microlith: and you start gnome-session in the vncserver?
[01:24] <qcjn> gnutron: when it worked..my motd wasn't there, so i has to remake it
[01:24] <ncfi1013_> how do you access 'top'?
[01:24] <gregbrady> snuitje: I'll give that a shot as a last resort
[01:24] <microlith> zsquareplusc: yup
[01:25] <Mooc1> Can someone help me out with evolution
[01:25] <snuitje> gregbrady: maybe there's a but about it on launchpad, launchpad.net/ubuntu/bugs iirc
[01:25] <mrwes> ncfi1013_, hit Ctrl + F1 then type top
[01:25] <gregbrady> snuitje: then wipe and wait for the next rev.
[01:25] <snuitje> gregbrady: or install ubuntu 32bit
[01:25] <zsquareplusc> microlith: 8.04? i have seen gnome-settinges-daemon die there, which made gnome fallback to default (builtin) theme
[01:25] <gnutron> ncfi1013_: you can ps aux  locate the program, and its PID number and type kill PID  where pid is a number.
[01:26] <gregbrady> snuitje: nah, this is a laptop....happy with the xp install.  Wubi just looked like a smooth easy install method
[01:26] <microlith> zsquareplusc: 8.10, but gnome-settings-daemon is dying
[01:26] <microlith> I think it's not finding an extension it wants in the x server
[01:26] <snuitje> gregbrady: allright
[01:26] <gnutron> qcjn: the motd should create itself. also, a headless box may need a bios tweak to start with no keyboard
[01:26] <gregbrady> snuitje: but I'll give the adobe driver a try first
[01:26] <snuitje> gregbrady: usually they ship xp with a giant steaming pile of crapware though :P
[01:27] <zsquareplusc> microlith: oh i was hoping that its fixed now.
[01:27] <gregbrady> snuitje: I cleaned this machine.
[01:27] <gregbrady> snuitje: it's actually not bad, just dated
[01:27] <gnutron> ncfi1013_: open a terminal and type 'top'  or 'htop'
[01:27] <dr_willis> I had issues w3ith a headless box.. :) one disk failed the fsck. and printed a message for me to  hit ctrl-c to continue, or somthing like that.. of course with no head.. i never saw the message
[01:27] <microlith> zsquareplusc: well poo, low priority issue for me though
[01:28] <ardchoille> Is there an app that lets you use one gtk theme for one app and another gtk theme for another app?
[01:28] <gregbrady> snuitje: and I just love Ubuntu on my desktops
[01:28] <reid> hey
[01:28] <Mooc1> anyone really fluent with evolution?
[01:28] <dr_willis> ardchoille,   Not that i have ever seen.. the windowmanager sawfish lets you sort of do that however..
[01:28] <snuitje> gregbrady: i use it everywhere, desktop, server and laptop =)
[01:28] <zsquareplusc> microlith: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/199245
[01:28] <gregbrady> snuitje: Yup, me too, just not laptop.  Too many fights with the Broadcom
[01:28] <ardchoille> dr_willis: I was thinking this might not be within the capabilities of gnome. I'll check out sawfish, thanks
[01:28] <reid> anyone here use an Atheros 242x or AR5007 wireless card, and Hardy AMD64?
[01:28] <dasdsa> hi, my ubuntu just stopped working.. i can boot and everything seems fine, but when the graphical interface is supposed to show up i just get a black screen.. no reason why this happens, was working OK 'til yesterday
[01:29] <dasdsa> any ideas?
[01:29] <snuitje> gregbrady: atheros here :)
[01:29] <reid> is it working for you?  =P
[01:29] <dr_willis> ardchoille,  it would be more of a 'metacity' feature.. and you could replace metacity with sawfish
[01:29] <reid> it worked for about 20 minutes after I set it up, and then it crapped out
[01:29] <qcjn> gnutron: what is a headless box..with no keyboard or mouse ?
[01:29] <reid> I can still scan, and I see networks
[01:29] <wos> can anyone tell me how to move a file?
[01:29] <wos> in terminal
[01:29] <gregbrady> snuitje: every update....ATI, and Wireless trouble.
[01:29] <reid> but when I try to connect, networkmanager doesn't light up either light
[01:29] <zsquareplusc> wos: rm
[01:29] <dr_willis> wos,  the mv command...
[01:29] <ardchoille> dr_willis: hmm.. not sure that will work here, I have compiz and g-w-d running beautifully and I don't think sawfish does compositing
[01:30] <snuitje> dr_willis: isnt that the sort of thing that can be tweaked with .gtkrc?
[01:30] <dr_willis> ardchoille,  correct it does not.
[01:30] <wos> thanks
[01:30] <wos>  you
[01:30] <zsquareplusc> wos: oh sorry. i read re-move.. its just mv tehn
[01:30] <cdavaz> I am running 8.10 on a Lenovo SL500. Why is my wireless not working?
[01:30] <gnutron> qcjn: no keyboard or monitor if i recall correctly
[01:30] <Mooc1> I cannot send a message through evolution?
[01:30] <sebsebseb> Mooc1:  evolution sure it's the default in Ubuntu,  but  Mozilla Thunderbird  is  probably much nicer
[01:30] <forcumang> thats awesome, the developer of pidgin couldn't help me so he just stopped talking, haha
[01:30] <reid> because u have an atheros card cdavaz =P
[01:30] <dr_willis> snuitje,  getting differnt windows to use different themes.. would have to be   dependent on the window manager.. the only one ive ever seen do that is sawfish.
[01:30] <forcumang> nice job devver
[01:30] <snuitje> gregbrady: intel integrated graphics ftw :) works with compiz ootb ^^ guess i got lucky when i bought it for cheap
[01:30] <cdavaz> reid: any way to get it to work?
[01:30] <reid> yeah lol, my ATI integrated were horrible
[01:30] <dr_willis> snuitje,   i recall at one time sawfish being considered for the default gnome window maanger..  (this was AGES ago) :)
[01:31] <reid> man, I wish I knew cdavaz
[01:31] <gregbrady> snuitje: at the time I really didn't care about the graphics.  It all worked under XP
[01:31] <snuitje> dr_willis: the window manager doesn't interfere with the applications toolkit
[01:31] <palomer> konnichiwa!
[01:31] <qcjn> gnutron: and if i go play in the bios will i be able to connect a keyboard once started..of course i wouldn't need that if ssh works
[01:31] <reid> I'm sitting here on a hardwire that is 30ft long
[01:31] <reid> =P
[01:31] <sebsebseb> Mooc1:  Mozilla Thunderbird very easy to set your email accounts up in
[01:31] <cdavaz> reid: i told my company not to buy this piece of crap SL
[01:31] <ardchoille> dr_willis: I didn't know metacity was responsible for handling the Human gtk theme
[01:31] <snuitje> dr_willis: yeah sawfish was for gnome 1.x
[01:31] <gregbrady> snuitje: but then I wanted something better and that is where the nightmares began
[01:32] <gnutron> qcjn: you may need to reset the bios change, its easier to just leave a keyboard connected.
[01:32] <gregbrady> snuitje: got a link for an adobe driver?
[01:32] <Mooc1> sebsebseb: its set but my message is not sending. it says it is but its not
[01:32] <snuitje> gregbrady: sorry, i just know it was on /. try searching adobe flash on slashdot.org
[01:32] <gregbrady> snuitje: oh, found it
[01:32] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: on a recent PC you can plug and unplug USB keyboards at any time, usually
[01:32] <snuitje> gregbrady: ^^
[01:33] <reid> anyone here get atheros 242x or 500x wifi working stable on 8.x?
[01:33] <gregbrady> snuitje: and we should install the .deb, correct?
[01:33] <snuitje> gregbrady: yep
[01:33] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: i don't have a recent usb keyboard actually
[01:33] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: but thats not your problem. you have still issues with sshd?
[01:33] <gregbrady> snuitje: here goes
[01:33] <mrpockets> is there a difference in ISOs between Ubuntu server and Ubuntu workstation?
[01:33] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: exactly
[01:33] <ExUser1> anyone running ubuntu in vmware?
[01:34] <reid> yes
[01:34] <reid> I believe server installs into CLI and not gnome
[01:34] <mrpockets> two different downloads?
[01:34] <snuitje> gregbrady: if you still have flashplugin-nonfree installed, that could still get loaded by firefox
[01:34] <reid> also I doubt it comes with all the pretty furniture
[01:34] <sebsebseb> Mooc1:  I haven't used evoloution well opened the set up and cancel and  that's as far as you go  unless  an email account is set up.   Mozilla Thunderbird though  :)
[01:34] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: re keyboard: only the bios needs to be recent to see USB keyboards. once ubuntu runs it works anyway with USB and or ps/2
[01:34] <ExUser1> is there any difference>
[01:34] <reid> err
[01:34] <cdavaz> reid: When I run "Hardware Drivers" I see the Atheros card listed and the driver for it installed and activated. So what is the issue here?
[01:34] <reid> software rofl.. furniture
[01:34] <gregbrady> snuitje: is is loaded by firefox but does nothing
[01:34] <gregbrady> snuitje: and adobe's link is only for 32 bit
[01:35] <snuitje> gregbrady: hm, better remove it if you install the one from adobe website
[01:35] <ExUser1> i want to install backtrack 3 on ubuntu..anyone have installed that?
[01:35] <gregbrady> snuitje: it never installed
[01:35] <sebsebseb> Mooc1:  Thunderbird better  than Evolouition
[01:35] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: re ssh, is there a file /etc/rc2.d/S16ssh ?
[01:35] <gnutron> qcjn: if ssh exists as in /etc/init.d/ssh  it should start on boot. i'm sure its there
[01:35] <snuitje> gregbrady: 64 bit version should be on their "Adobe Labs"
[01:35] <gregbrady> snuitje: it gave an error
[01:35] <Mooc1> sebsebseb:  I'm trying to send a email to the mail lists of Ubuntu
[01:36] <dr_willis>   /etc/init.d/ssh   not going to make it start   a link TO that file from /etc/rc2.d i think is whats needed
[01:36] <gregbrady> snuitje: they hide it well
[01:36] <sebsebseb> Mooc1: try Thunderbird when  you first open it it asks you waht type of accounts you want to set up,  and then you can just do that
[01:36] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: in the remote server or on the client
[01:36] <snuitje> dr_willis: update-rc.d ssh defaults
[01:36] <zsquareplusc> gnutron: the existence in init.d is no guarantee to start. see update-rc.d for possibilities :-)
[01:36] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: the server
[01:36] <gnutron> dr_willis: ok, thanks, that sounds familiar
[01:36] <snuitje> gregbrady: yeah they do that :P
[01:36] <gnutron> zsquareplusc: thanks
[01:36] <Mooc1> hmmm ok
[01:37] <gnutron> I should probably shutup.
[01:37] <snuitje> gregbrady: took me a while to find air at some point when i wanted to try it
[01:37] <zsquareplusc> gnutron: nono, you do well :-)
[01:37] <snuitje> gregbrady: but they have that as well for linux, dont know about 64bit support tho
[01:37] <gregbrady> snuitje: well, lets hope all developers for ubuntu recognize these issues with graphics, wireless and flash.  Don't worry about new features and just fix the basics
[01:37] <snuitje> gregbrady: air predates flash for 64bit
[01:37] <gnutron> zsquareplusc: thanks man. i try.
[01:38] <reid> so anyone wanna tell me what it means when neither light lights up on networkmanager?
[01:38] <reid> never seen that before... used to only 1 lighting up
[01:38] <reid> it scans wireless fine...
[01:38] <reid> but can't connect to any of them
[01:38] <reid> 8.4 hardy
[01:38] <juancabrito> hey everybody. Can anyone help me with some questions about VMWARE??
[01:38] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: z16ssh is there
[01:38] <snuitje> gregbrady: hardware support is continuously being improved, flash is proprietary so that's difficult
[01:39] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: s16ssh
[01:39] <gregbrady> snuitje: everything is difficult for the underdog.  He who has the best drivers wins
[01:39] <sebsebseb> gregbrady:  those issues well  hardware issues only the manufactures can  sort out properly,  and Flash only  Adobe for the closed one, but Gnash the open one is getting there
[01:39] <snuitje> gregbrady: hardware support is very difficult as well for nvidia because they dont give specs, just blobs of varying usefullness
[01:39] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: but it should be staring with S (for starting), k means stopping
[01:39] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: try: update-rc.d ssh defaults
[01:39] <snuitje> gregbrady: so vista definately loses the game ;)
[01:40] <gregbrady> snuitje: actually.................I've had no issues
[01:40] <sebsebseb> gregbrady: can the average person improve  Microsoft Word or Windows  nope, because they do not have access to the code
[01:40] <fedealves> I need to hire a consultant via paypal
[01:40] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: you were looking in rc2.d? not rc1.d?
[01:40] <gregbrady> snuitje: ashamed to say
[01:40] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: exactly like this in the terminal "update-rc.d ssh defaults"
[01:40] <fedealves> if there are any takers my email is venefax@gmail.com
[01:40] <snuitje> gregbrady: i have a very nice scanner that costs a lot of $$$ new and i got it for 10 buck just because the previous owner couldn't get drivers for vista hehe
[01:40] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: yes
[01:40] <juancabrito> ok, then can someone help me to change permissions of a folder please
[01:40] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: yes  to update-rc.d (sudo)
[01:40] <gregbrady> snuitje: I guess I got lucky
[01:40] <reid> in nautilus juan?
[01:40] <snuitje> gregbrady: yep
[01:40] <mkerd> juancabrito, right click it and properties -> permissions
[01:40] <fedealves> I need help installing an Ubunto 804 32 Bits Virtual machine under XEN
[01:41] <gregbrady> snuitje: didn't like it, but first shot, all hardware
[01:41] <reid> brb..
[01:41] <mkerd> fedealves, did you read the documentation or search for a howto?
[01:42] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: System startup links for /etc/init.d/ssh already exist
[01:42] <juancabrito> mkerd: I only can see that only the "root" have permissions and there's nothing I can change in there
[01:42] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: hm. update-rc.d ssh remove  would clean that and defaults would set them again
[01:43] <snuitje> zsquareplusc: -f remove
[01:43] <triplc> hi all
[01:43] <mars__> h i
[01:43] <mkerd> juancabrito, in terminal type "gksudo nautilus" to run Nautilus as root. Either that or change the permissions from terminal.
[01:43] <gregbrady> snuitje: woohoo, found the site
[01:43] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: so you think i should reset it
[01:44] <mcj_> Hey guys. I seem to be havign a problem with X.org right now. I have my Intel 810 card set up and my ATI card set up and X.org I guess compiled fglrx into the kernel when it updated and now X.org will not start.
[01:44] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: it seems there is something strange. normally ssh should start at runlevel 2 (that is that S* file in rc2.d)
[01:44] <triplc> how to block Yahoo Messenger? i am using a Linux box as a router for a small company. I search Google and *found* some howto but they do not work as blocking Yahoo Messenger. Anyone who success in blocking it, please help me
[01:44] <gregbrady> snuitje: hmm...it's a .so file and I'm nto sure how to install
[01:44] <reid> mcj, use EnvyNG
[01:45] <juancabrito> mkerd: what is nautilus and what does it have to do with the folder I want to change?
[01:45] <mcj_> It keeps looking in something like /card/dri/card0 for my video card and cannot find it.
[01:45] <mcj_> reid: EnvyNG?
[01:45] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: runlevel 2 is the normal mode for ubuntu. runlevel 1 would be single user
[01:45] <reid> I would remove all the drivers for the ATI that you have done yourself
[01:45] <snuitje> gregbrady: just copy it to .mozilla/plugins firefox should see it there
[01:45] <mkerd> juancabrito, Nautilus is the name of the file browser
[01:45] <gregbrady> snuitje: thanks, let me try that.
[01:45] <snuitje> gregbrady: ~/.mozilla/plugins to be exact
[01:45] <KlrSp1> i just reinstalled ubuntu from the latest livecd (still 8.04), and now i can't hibernate, any ideas? it just turns the monitor off, but the power stays on... can't get it back up, have to physically power the laptop down
[01:46] <qcjn> zsquareplusc:  sudo update-rc.d ssh remove "an then after" sudo update-rc.d ssh defaults
[01:46] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: yes
[01:46] <mkerd> KlrSp1, try the latest version of ubuntu
[01:46] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: ok
[01:47] <juancabrito> mkerd: ok, thank you. But now I see a folder named "root" instead of my name (the home folder I mean) but the folder has been inside it and now there's only a Desktop icon
[01:47] <KlrSp1> mkerd: nah, i need 8.04 for development consistency reasons
[01:47] <snuitje> KlrSp1: do you need to run lts?
[01:47] <mkerd> juancabrito, your home folder is in /home/juancabrito (or whatever your user is called)
[01:47] <fedealves> I need to hire a consultant via paypal if there are any takers my email is venefax@gmail.com
[01:47] <fedealves> I need help installing an Ubunto 804 32 Bits Virtual machine under XEN
[01:47] <gregbrady> snuitje: hmmm, can't find /.mozilla/plugins
[01:47] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/ssh exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)
[01:48] <snuitje> mkerd: maybe it's a matter of unloading certain modules? do you know how to go about doing that?
[01:48] <snuitje> mkerd: i mean, rmmod, but to force that on hibernate
[01:48] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: ok. then do what it says
[01:48] <snuitje> gregbrady: mkdir it =)
[01:48] <KlrSp1> snuitje: just for development reasons, needs to match the other dev's environments
[01:49] <KlrSp1> snuitje: it worked out of the box when i first installed 8.04; now that i've re-installed it doens't
[01:49] <snuitje> KlrSp1: did you change the partitioning?
[01:49] <KlrSp1> snuitje: nope, just formatted the partitions
[01:49] <mkerd> KlrSp1, snuitje, Oh ok. I don't really know about hibernate, but I think I've read that 8.10 had some improvements in that area. Or maybe it was 9.04 that would get.
[01:49] <gregbrady> snuitje: nope, no go
[01:50] <snuitje> KlrSp1: if you remove 'quiet' from the boot options in /boot/grub/menu.lst, do you see complaining about not enough swap space?
[01:50] <TokenBad> can anyone help me get ubuntu working right..after installed 8.10 and then install video drivers..I can't get X to start...
[01:50] <triplc> how to block Yahoo Messenger? i am using a Linux box as a router for a small company. I search Google and *found* some howto but they do not work as blocking Yahoo Messenger. Anyone who success in blocking it, please help me (repost)
[01:50] <KlrSp1> i'll have to reboot, let me give that a whirl, bbiab
[01:50] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: what is the command exactly i must put ?
[01:50] <snuitje> mkerd: there's going to be a new, more brute-force-like mechanism in newer linux kernels thats all i know :p
[01:50] <bosi> where is my master?
[01:51] <gnutron> triplc: you might block yahoo using the hosts file
[01:51] <snuitje> mkerd: in addition to the old one, so users can pick which one works best
[01:51] <juancabrito> mkerd: ok, I got it. but now I think.... I'm trying to use a virtual machine I have created there... I've created it with VMWare server, but the VMPlayer doesn't let me use it because of the permissions... so I'm afraid If I change permissions it won't work anyway, what do you think?
[01:51] <zsquareplusc> KlrSp1: a colleague has problems with susppend too. he's works better if you boot with nospalsh. and sometimes he has to press the alt key 5 times to get it back up again
[01:51] <mkerd> juancabrito, give it a try, you can always change the permissions back otherwise
[01:51] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: sudo update-rc.d -f ssh remove && sudo update-rc.d ssh defaults
[01:52] <juancabrito> mkerd: ok!
[01:52] <qcjn> ok, done
[01:52] <snuitje> TokenBad: can you still log in? (in text mode)
[01:52] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: done
[01:52] <TokenBad> snuitje yes..into a command prompt
[01:53] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: so "ls /etc/rc2.d/ |grep ssh" is now showing an S file?
[01:53] <juancabrito> mkerd: do I change just the ownwer or the "Group" too?
[01:53] <snuitje> TokenBad: which ubuntu version?
[01:53] <TokenBad> 8.10
[01:53] <gregbrady> snuitje: I don't think firefox sees it
[01:53] <TokenBad> was clean install from disk...
[01:53] <arroz_con_pollo> hello... does anyone knows anything about msi wind... any good ????
[01:53] <reid> who here is a friggin guru?  lol
[01:53] <snuitje> TokenBad: "sudo apt-get -f install" does nothing?
[01:53] <mkerd> juancabrito, do both, or one, don't be afraid to try, you can change permissions anyway if it doesn't work.
[01:53] <KlrSpz> snuitje: to clarify, should i see that on boot, or shutdown? (i would assume shutdown)
[01:54] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: it shows S20ssh
[01:54] <TokenBad> no snuitje it seems its cause I have dual 8800gts 512 meg cards..and its not putting one of them or whatever as primary
[01:54] <snuitje> gregbrady: hmm, maybe it doesn't have execute permission, try chmod a+x ~/.mozilla/plugins/libfla<tab>
[01:54] <ardchoille> I just did a kernel update on Intrepid and memtest and recovery mode have been removed. Is this normal? What happens if I put memtest and recovery mode back in?
[01:54] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: then it should now run on boot
[01:54] <TokenBad> snuitje I have my xorg.conf on pastebin as well as the log of the errors
[01:55] <snuitje> TokenBad: kewl
[01:55] <snuitje> TokenBad: you have a link?
[01:55] <gregbrady> snuitje: is has Allow Execution permission
[01:55] <TokenBad> http://pastebin.com/f272c2f6b
[01:55] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: so noe if i restart the computer without a keyboard, i ll still have a problem..right ?
[01:55] <snuitje> KlrSpz: on boot, remove splash as well while you're at it
[01:56] <amy_> #ct
[01:56] <TokenBad> and http://pastebin.com/f4097eb5a
[01:56] <TokenBad> thats the 2 links
[01:56] <gnutron> qcjn: dont reboot
[01:56] <snuitje> gregbrady: allright and when you close firefox and launch it again about:plugins still doesn't show shockwave flash?
[01:56] <gregbrady> snuit, no, tried that
[01:56] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: what problem? ssh should start with or without keyboard. the single dumb thing that can happen is a BIOS that says keyboard error, press F1 to continue :p
[01:57] <snuitje> gregbrady: email adobe tell them their plugin sucks ;)
[01:57] <gregbrady> snuitje: actually yes, but with the same old drivers
[01:57] <KlrSpz> snuitje: yeah i didn't see that anywhere
[01:57] <gnutron> qcjn: linux rarely needs rebooting
[01:57] <KlrSpz> snuitje: on boot that is
[01:57] <gregbrady> snuitje: their driver does not suck.  It is not installed
[01:57] <snuitje> gregbrady: does it load the old ones?
[01:57] <gregbrady> snuitje: yes
[01:57] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: i could use my girlfriend's computer keyboard
[01:57] <snuitje> gregbrady: hm, better get that out of the way then
[01:57] <qcjn> gnutron: how can i see if it starts without rebooting
[01:57] <gregbrady> snuitje: right, I told you.  No plugins dir
[01:58] <KlrSpz> snuitje: however when i look in my log pm-hibernate.log i do see it showing "/usr/lib/pm-utils/functions: line 162: echo: write error: No space left on device
[01:58] <KlrSpz> "
[01:58] <gregbrady> snuitje: something wrong there.  Not in the correct place
[01:58] <gnutron> qcjn: it will, i forgot about the S in the runlevel
[01:58] <zsquareplusc> KlrSpz: sounds like your swap is too small to store the ram
[01:58] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: if there's no keyboard..how can i press on F1
[01:58] <snuitje> gregbrady: sudo mv /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so /root/
[01:58] <KlrSpz> zsquareplusc: yeah it does, oddly enough all i've done is format and reinstall
[01:58] <juancabrito> mkerd: didn't work, VMWare Player still gives me the message "Insufficient permissions to access the file"  :(
[01:59] <gregbrady> snuitje: let me digest that
[01:59] <kusanagi_> anybody knows a nice program to handle a sony ericsson?
[01:59] <KlrSpz> zsquareplusc: what's a safe way to extend the partition, will gparted work well enough?
[01:59] <qcjn> gnutron: ok
[01:59] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: yep, that was a joke. some BIOS were that stupid. but nowdasy most PC should start without keyboard. in the other cases, the keyboard check can be disabled in BIOS
[01:59] <snuitje> gregbrady: if you run mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins then you do have a plugins dir for firefox :)
[01:59] <mkerd> juancabrito, that's weird. google that error message to see if anyone else has had the same problem
[01:59] <KlrSpz> gregbrady: yeah you have to create it most of the time
[01:59] <reid> who here got an atheros 242x card working on 8.04?
[01:59] <snuitje> KlrSpz: ouch
[01:59] <Myyoga> Hey Guys, Im trying to compile Handbrake 9.3 on Ubuntu 8.04, and I installed all of the dependencies,I dont see any errors, but I cant Sudo make install. Any ideas on why that might be?
[02:00] <snuitje> KlrSpz: run df -h
[02:00] <gnutron> qcjn: you cant, i think newer machines dont have the keyboard error anymore
[02:00] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: like gnutron says, i won't reboot it for now
[02:00] <KlrSpz> snuitje: which device you lookin for?
[02:00] <TokenBad> snuitje http://pastebin.com/f272c2f6b
[02:00] <snuitje> KlrSpz: see if there's a troubled filesystem
[02:00] <KlrSpz> all looks well
[02:00] <TokenBad> snuitje and http://pastebin.com/f4097eb5a
[02:00] <snuitje> KlrSpz: nothing anywhere near 99% full?
[02:01] <gnutron> zsquareplusc: you're good. end of story. thanks for the assistance
[02:01] <juancabrito> mkerd: ok thank you for trying
[02:01] <zsquareplusc> KlrSpz: how large is your swap ? and RAM? (free tells you both)
[02:01] <gregbrady> snuitje: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[02:02] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: the PC is far away? if you're close to it and can act if something goes wrong, better test now, than never
[02:02] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: gnutron yes thanks to you both
[02:02] <KlrSpz> snuitje: nope, most is 26% used
[02:02] <KlrSpz> woah, swap is small as hell for some reason
[02:02] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: ok, it s just beside my computer
[02:02] <snuitje> TokenBad: it's probably using the wrong nvidia driver version, try changing it to "nv" where it says nvidia in Section "Device"
[02:02] <Myyoga> Hey Guys, Im trying to compile Handbrake 9.3 on Ubuntu 8.04, and I installed all of the dependencies,I dont see any errors, but I cant Sudo make install. Any ideas on why that might be?
[02:02] <KlrSpz> zsquareplusc: snuitje: http://www.pastie.org/325737
[02:02] <zsquareplusc> KlrSpz: is the total of swap bigger than the total of ram (1st column each)
[02:02] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: i ll try it now
[02:03] <gnutron> qcjn: i think the ssh re-install messed up the runlevel restart. normally it wouldnt have been needed.
[02:03] <KlrSpz> zsquareplusc: for some reason it's reporting 486mb
[02:03] <NH|Computer|Geek> whats the command line command to upgrade distros?
[02:03] <NH|Computer|Geek> in ubuntu 7.10
[02:03] <mon^rch> !trash
[02:03] <snuitje> gregbrady: bad?
[02:03] <bosi> where is my master?
[02:03] <zsquareplusc> KlrSpz: yep, so as soon as you use more then 400MB RAM you cant hibernate successfully
[02:03] <TokenBad> snuitje well since am at command prompt..how would I remove it and reinstall the right one?
[02:04] <Myyoga> Hey Guys, Im trying to compile Handbrake 9.3 on Ubuntu 8.04, and I installed all of the dependencies,I dont see any errors, but I cant Sudo make install. Any ideas on why that might be?
[02:04] <bosi> hi everyone
[02:04] <TheSHizz> I have dual monitor support with compiz fusion installed.  Although when I save everything it will revert back to single display after restart every time... What do I need to add to the config to make it stick?
[02:04] <TokenBad> snuitje but I installed the one that ubuntu recommended
[02:04] <KlrSpz> zsquareplusc: so i just did a swapoff, then mkswap back on the device, then a swapon, and now it reports all 4gb
[02:04] <zsquareplusc> KlrSpz: and fdisk -l  do you have different swap partitions?   ehm. do you really want to use hibernate or was that just an accident? ;-)
[02:04] <KlrSpz> zsquareplusc: that was soooo weird
[02:04] <gregbrady> snuitje: forget it.
[02:04] <gregbrady> snuitje: I give up
[02:04] <zsquareplusc> KlrSpz: oh, ok
[02:04] <KlrSpz> zsquareplusc: yeah i actually like hibernate ;)
[02:05] <KlrSpz> ok i'm gunna test it now, bbiab
[02:05] <gregbrady> snuitje: someone needs to look at this stuff from a simple users perspective and make it all work.
[02:05] <snuitje> gregbrady: another reason to hate flash -_-
[02:05] <JmCourir> How to share Physical NTFS HDD from Ubuntu 8.10 to SAMBA Network ?
[02:05] <gregbrady> snuitje: no, works fine in XP
[02:05] <qcjn> gnutron: if i remember its "shutdown -r now"
[02:05] <JmCourir> any of you have a good how to .. ?
[02:05] <snuitje> gregbrady: someone at Adobe should get a clue
[02:06] <NH|Computer|Geek> whats the command line command to upgrade distros in ubuntu 7.10? yeah yeah its a little old
[02:06] <gregbrady> snuitje: no, minority must comform to majority.  Not the other way around.
[02:06] <snuitje> gregbrady: doesn't work fine across platforms, like how the web is supposed to work, so they still suck
[02:06] <snuitje> gregbrady: flash is a minority on the web
[02:06] <gnutron> qcjn: that's right
[02:06] <kitche> NH|Computer|Geek: hmm not sure if there is a command line command that will just do it without editing a few files
[02:06] <qcjn> gnutron: ok
[02:06] <gregbrady> snuitje: I will keep Ubuntu on wired, simple desktops.  No laptops
[02:06] <snuitje> gregbrady: so any site using it doesn't conform to majority, by your reasoning flash still sucks :)
[02:06] <zsquareplusc> !upgrade > NH|Computer|Geek
[02:07] <NH|Computer|Geek> ok
[02:07] <TokenBad> snuitje well since am at command prompt..how would I remove it and reinstall the right one?
[02:07] <alec868> whats the best program to monitor my cpu temperature in ubuntu 8.10
[02:07] <gregbrady> snuitje: I'm a simple user.  simple needs.  Thats all.
[02:07] <kevin__> ok when i turn my computer on the network manager asks for my keyring password how can i make it remember it? im wireless laptop on 8.10
[02:07] <kevin__> apparently wireless computers have this problem
[02:07] <zsquareplusc> alec868: "best" is very subjective. i use sensors-applet
[02:08] <gregbrady> snuitje: I don't care if it is flash, bash, mash or smash.  I want to watch a video on youtube.
[02:08] <Baba_B00ie> NH|Computer|Geek,  sudo apt-get dis-upgrade i think.. idk i usually upgrade using synaptic
[02:08] <snuitje> gregbrady: i get it, it's just that you can't just say "oh ubuntu devs need to work on gettings flash to work"
[02:08] <NH|Computer|Geek> ok thanx though
[02:08] <NH|Computer|Geek> i will try both
[02:08] <Baba_B00ie> !upgrade
[02:08] <gregbrady> snuitje: no, devs need to work on ubuntu compatibility with flash.  Not flash itself
[02:08] <snuitje> gregbrady: flash support is a known problem, but it's not easy to fix, and if you can support the gnash project then that's excellent
[02:09] <Myyoga> Hey Guys, Im trying to compile Handbrake 9.3 on Ubuntu 8.04, and I installed all of the dependencies,I dont see any errors, but I cant Sudo make install. Any ideas on why that might be? Pizza makes me happy :)
[02:09] <YlandeFaran> I don't find "gmp" at the list "add programs"
[02:09] <YlandeFaran> What do I do?
[02:09] <alec868> zsquaresplus: let me refphrase. can anyone tell me how to easily and quickly install a program that will accurately gauge my CPU temp.
[02:09] <gregbrady> snuitje: and ATI drivers, and Broadcom drivers
[02:09] <snuitje> gregbrady: theres an alternative from codeweavers that allows the windows flash plugin to be run inside firefox
[02:09] <ardchoille> YlandeFaran: isn't gimp installed by default in Ubuntu?
[02:09] <Baba_B00ie> bah who needs flash, shockwave and all ? it's all internet garbage.. the best way to browse the web is in text only any way ;) lynx anyone ?
[02:09] <gregbrady> snuitje: sorry, frustrated
[02:09] <gnutron> Myyoga: sudo not Sudo
[02:09] <c0ding> ?
[02:10] <sanbor> hi to all
[02:10] <snuitje> gregbrady: yes and everything else, there's a limited amount of man-hours on every job, ati btw is going well because amd released specs
[02:10] <zsquareplusc> alec868: apt-get install sensors-applet   then use "add to panel.."
[02:10] <reid> omg someone help me fix this friggin wireless driver
[02:10] <Myyoga> gnutron: sorry I pasted it in wrong, but ya I used sudo
[02:10] <kandjar> yop here
[02:10] <kevin__> ok ill try another, when i turn my computer on the only working mode is low graphics mode and even then only a KDE session will work, gnome sessions have scrambled graphics
[02:10] <sanbor> i have a litle problem
[02:10] <gregbrady> snuitje: ok, deep breath here
[02:10] <sanbor> i have a network with windows machine
[02:10] <kandjar> reid: what prob do u have with ur wireless driver?
[02:10] <sanbor> if i put the ip of these machine, i can see it
[02:10] <kitche> snuitje: considering that amd didn't release specs for the older cards just the HD cards
[02:11] <sanbor> but i don't see the share name in the network place
[02:11] <sanbor> any idea?
[02:11] <YlandeFaran> gmp = GNU Multiple Precision Arithmetic Library
[02:11] <alec868> zsquareplus; and even better can you point me in the direction of a program that allows me to adjust fan speed to compensate for a cpu that is running hot
[02:11] <gnutron> Myyoga: and youre in the source directory?
[02:11] <kevin__> !gimp
[02:11] <YlandeFaran> what is the differance of a tar.gz and a tar.bz2 ?
[02:11] <kevin__> !gnu
[02:11] <uzair> hey all
[02:12] <snuitje> gregbrady: broadcam has refused to do anything, i don't think they like anyone who asks anything except for placing orders
[02:12] <Myyoga> gnutron: yup
[02:12] <zsquareplusc> alec868: hm. sensors-applet will show fan speeds, but i dont know how to change them
[02:12] <kevin__> !keyring
[02:12] <doctor> Are there any usability/stability issues with the 64-bit version of Ubuntu Intrepid, and can I expect 32-bit apps to work on 64-bit Linux?  What about 32-bit Windows apps through Wine?
[02:12] <Dr_willis_> YlandeFaran,  one is bzip'd other is gzip'd
[02:12] <ardchoille> YlandeFaran: Ah, yeah, read it wrong, sorry
[02:12] <Myyoga> gnutron: I can paste in the read out of the compiling results
[02:12] <uzair> needed some help in regards to setting up a SOHO network
[02:12] <Dr_willis_> doctor,  ive had no issues with 64bit.. wine works fine
[02:12] <gnutron> Myyoga: you ran make first?
[02:12] <Myyoga> yup
[02:12] <Dr_willis_> doctor,  of course it may depend on exactly which apps you use. there is no zsnes for 64bit for example
[02:13] <YlandeFaran> ok. I got them two choices on gmp:s download page. But I have not used anything other than sudo apt-get before.
[02:13] <snuitje> kitche: well if people start working on drivers now, by the time the drivers are finished and working beautifully, most olders cards would be obsolete right, right? ^_^
[02:13] <YlandeFaran> Can I do any harm if I don't know exacly what I'm doing?
[02:13] <doctor> Dr_willis_, thanks.  Sorry for the noob question, I've just been unable to google any information on the topic that's less than a year old and I know 64-bit development is moving very quickly right now.
[02:13] <doctor> Dr_willis_, does Wine also work in 64-bit with 32-bit 3D games?
[02:13] <Dr_willis_> doctor,  its only with 8.10 that i dared to try 64bit.. after tring it ages ago.. :) ive had no problems
[02:14] <Dr_willis_> doctor,  yes wine works.
[02:14] <Myyoga> gnutron: yup
[02:14] <gnutron> Myyoga: i dunno, are you doing this from /usr/src  dir?
[02:14] <uzair> i'm trying to setup terminal services for a windows server, however that poses a huge security risk. so the  plan of action is to stick a vpn router in front which will auth. the users.
[02:14] <gregbrady> snuitje: ok, back from a breather and I have a fresh beer.
[02:14] <Dr_willis_> doctor,  since theres no windows  64bit 3d games  thaat i know of. :)
[02:14] <Myyoga> gnutron: umm no
[02:14] <alec868> zsquareplus: how do i "add to panel"?
[02:14] <TokenBad> ok if I installed the 177.x.x drivers and want to go back to 173.x.x driver for nvidia..if I am stuck in command prompt how would I remove the 177 and install the 173?
[02:14] <snuitje> gregbrady: good idea there :) *opens bottle*
[02:14] <doctor> Dr_willis_, ah, well - I heard from a friend who tried 64-bit Feisty, and apparently that was a catastrophe for him.
[02:14] <uzair> anyone have much knowledge on vpn routers? and vpn technology?
[02:14] <gregbrady> snuitje: lets see what I'm doing wrong here
[02:14] <Dr_willis_> doctor,  depends on the exact hardware/drivers/programs i imagine.
[02:14] <zsquareplusc> alec868: the bar with the menu at the top of the screen. right click with the mouse in a free area in it
[02:14] <snuitje> gregbrady: not given up yet?
[02:15] <doctor> Dr_willis_, I guess there isn't some sort of compatibility layer for 32-bit apps?
[02:15] <gregbrady> snuitje: no, I'm just that stupid
[02:15] <gnutron> Myyoga: i'm not sure  if thats required as long as your in the build dir. i dunno
[02:15] <Myyoga> gnutron: I added a COMPILED directory to my home folder where I extracted all of the data and then navigated to that folding using the terminal and ran make
[02:15] <gregbrady> *stubborn
[02:15] <Dr_willis_> doctor,  theres somthing sort of like that for linux.. but it dosent do it the same way  that windows does it...
[02:15] <uzair> anyone?? (on vpns)
[02:15] <gnutron> Myyoga: i would think that would work fine.
[02:15] <zsquareplusc> doctor: ia32-libs, helps getting g' earth run :-)
[02:15] <doctor> Dr_willis_, gotcha.  Thanks for your help!
[02:16] <doctor> zsquareplusc, thanks.  I will make a note of that!
[02:16] <alec868> zsquareplus: awesome, thanks
[02:16] <snuitje> gregbrady: lol you're not, it's just not obvious if you don't know it... like how their photo editing software is totally non-obvious for a newb like me ^_^
[02:16] <Dr_willis_> ive4 had more issues with 64buit windows then i have 64bit linux.. but to be fair.. ive only had a few issues with 64bit windows. :P
[02:16] <doctor> I had pretty good luck with windows 64, but I'd still rather not touch it.  :p
[02:16] <Myyoga> gnutron: It doesn't give me any clear errors either. I just cant run sudo make install, because install doesn't exist
[02:16] <Dr_willis_> doctor,  current laptop has 64bit vista.. and ive had no problems.
[02:16] <TokenBad> well better luck than me...for some reason everytime I install the nvidia drivers for my computer it breaks ubuntu
[02:16]  * zsquareplusc just knows C64 :(
[02:17] <Dr_willis_> doctor,  except for a few old games. :P
[02:17] <Myyoga> gnutron: so im assuming that it didn't compile correctly
[02:17] <Dr_willis_> zsquareplusc,  i got a few of those also. :)
[02:17] <doctor> Dr_willis_, no problems?  with VISTA?  surely you jest, sir!  :p
[02:17] <gregbrady> snuitje: ok, tell me exactly where the .so file should go
[02:17] <gregbrady> please
[02:17] <gregbrady> (sorry)
[02:17] <zsquareplusc> Dr_willis_: so we're the old ones here ;-)
[02:17] <snuitje> gregbrady: ~/.mozilla/plugins or the global dir /usr/lib/mozilla/firefox/plugins (afaik)
[02:18] <gregbrady> snuitje: ok, it went to /usr/lib/mozilla/firefox/plugins
[02:18] <gregbrady> There are two others there
[02:18] <snuitje> and it's executeable right?
[02:18] <gregbrady> libflashplayer.so
[02:18] <doctor> Okay, so if I add another partition with 64-bit linux - would there be any horrible issue with using the same /home partition in both?
[02:18] <mrpockets> What corporations is Ubuntu supported by?
[02:18] <doctor> -both 32- and 64-bit linux, that is.
[02:18] <gluonman> For some strange reason, my gnome-panel is not set to be placed above all windows. Firefox completely covers it, as well as drop-down menus. How can I fix this?
[02:18] <gregbrady> and flashpluginalternative.so
[02:18] <snuitje> gregbrady: better get other flash players out of the way
[02:18] <gnutron> Myyoga: ive been told ubuntu's shell interpreter uses /bin/dash instead of /bin/bash which causes compile problems. dash has works for me, but you cam change symlinks to use /bin/bash instead
[02:19] <alec868> what would one say is too hot for a cpu? what constitutes dangerous?
[02:19] <doctor> alec868, it depends on your CPU.
[02:19] <gregbrady> snuitje: so delete them?
[02:19] <snuitje> gregbrady: you could let flashpluginalternative.so point to the right one
[02:19] <kevin__> im going to massacre but something along the lines of conical
[02:19] <kevin__> no thats deff not it
[02:19] <snuitje> gregbrady: for the purpose of testing, i'd say yeah that's practical
[02:19] <doctor> alec868, it's good to keep the chip under 80c, though - generally speaking.
[02:19] <alec868> doctor: do you know where i would find the information online for my cpu?
[02:19] <gregbrady> snuitje: confirm, delete them?
[02:19] <kandjar> I just move to 8.10.. I was very happy that the network worked str8 away :) usually it's a pain for me to get it to work :) However I'm having issue with my blutooth mouse.... At first the detection went well, but since I rebooted it stopped working (unable to pair it says)
[02:19] <kevin__> !funding
[02:19] <kandjar> can someone help me?
[02:20] <gnutron> Myyoga: try again using /usr/src instead for the extraction maybe
[02:20] <doctor> alec868, you mean how to find out what CPU you're using?
[02:20] <zsquareplusc> doctor: as long as both are 8.10 that should be not a problem. it get to be problematic for some programms that change their config file format in newer versions. though i happily run 64bit with a 32bit chroot from feisty with the same home
[02:20] <snuitje> gregbrady: yeah it's not like you can't get them back, you can also move them someplace else like /tmp
[02:20] <alec868> doctor:oh! ok. do im at around 49-50c. i shouldnt worry?
[02:20] <gregbrady> I will copy and move them
[02:20] <Myyoga> gnutron: alrright, I guess I'll just copy the whole thing right in there
[02:20] <donaldo> how to operate the bluetooth on ubuntu 8.10 amd64?, I am not running on my laptop integrated
[02:20] <zsquareplusc> doctor: chroot you know? an other way to run 32 bit apps on 64 bit computer
[02:20] <doctor> alec868, if your machine is prebuilt (like from Dell or whatever) googling the serial number should help.
[02:20] <gregbrady> snuitje: ok hold on here.
[02:20] <doctor> alec868, you're almost certainly fine.
[02:21] <gregbrady> snuitje: ok I think I see what is wong
[02:21] <gnutron> Myyoga: mv dir /usr/src  will move the whole thing
[02:21] <alec868> doctor: i mean to find out what temp my particular cpu should be running at, and more importantly, what is a dangerously high temperature
[02:21] <gregbrady> *wrong
[02:21] <gregbrady> snuitje: some files are just links
[02:21] <zsquareplusc> alec868: 50°C for a laptop if normal. it's find it alarming at 70°C
[02:21] <snuitje> gregbrady: that's not a problem, firefox doesn't care as long as they're in a place where it can find them
[02:22] <zsquareplusc> s/it's/i'd
[02:22] <gregbrady> I know
[02:22] <gregbrady> snuitje: we are getting there
[02:22] <chupy> hi i have a problem... i have ubuntu in a hp dv6000 the control worked fine but now i modify a lot of things anf now dont work what can i do?
[02:22] <kevin__> Canonical ltd provided 10million initially according to wiki
[02:22] <gregbrady> snuitje: ok, I'm doing something wrong here
[02:22] <gregbrady> I'm a gui guy remember
[02:23] <snuitje> gregbrady; i don't know though, maybe someone else with x86_64 does but maybe on 64bit theres a lib and a lib64 or a lib and a lib32, or whatever
[02:23] <alec868> zsquareplus: thanks, thats all i needed to know, unless you can tell me how to adjust the fan speed
[02:23] <atari2600a> I need to install Ubuntu 8.10 on another machine but I have no blanks
[02:23] <gregbrady> snuitje: no...I see what is wrong here
[02:23] <atari2600a> is there a way I can put it on my thumbdrive for installation on another machine
[02:23] <snuitje> gregbrady: i prefer commandline for a lot of things -_-''
[02:23] <snuitje> gregbrady: it grew on me
[02:23] <Comrade-Sergei> how do I add the contents of a text file as a variable in bash?
[02:23] <snuitje> gregbrady: what's wrong
[02:23] <gregbrady> snuitje: I love command line back in OS9 days
[02:24] <snuitje> gregbrady: OS9 didn't have one lol
[02:24] <node357> my Dad used to use OS9
[02:24] <njbair> hey i had a custom xkb layout and when xkb updated today it broke. how do i add my layout and make it "update-proof"?
[02:24] <gregbrady> snuitje: I started Nautilus as sudo
[02:24] <atari2600a> oh sorry, I just found the freaking thing utility right now :P
[02:24] <zsquareplusc> snuitje, gregbrady: /lib/  /lib32/ /lib64/
[02:24] <atari2600a> sorry for the annoying, leaving now
[02:24] <thiagoss> How do I configure DNAT in ubuntu?
[02:24] <snuitje> zsquareplusc: and which one has the right firefox/plugins dir? =)
[02:24] <gregbrady> zsquareplusc: what?
[02:25] <thiagoss> And is it possible to take the DNAT decisions at application level?
[02:25] <LosGeners> I am having a problem when saving an Excel file to .ods format.
[02:26] <Myyoga> gnutron: moving the directory didn't help
[02:26] <Myyoga> gnutron: Same issues
[02:26] <snuitje> thiagoss: you can use ucw or iptables, ucw is simpler
[02:26] <zsquareplusc> snuitje, gregbrady sorry then.. i though you meant system libraries. i dont even see a plugin folder in my homes firefox folder.
[02:27] <thiagoss> snuitje, can I take decisions to application level? I mean, decide based on the url?
[02:27] <chupy> hi i have a problem... i have ubuntu in a hp dv6000 the control worked fine but now i modify a lot of things anf now dont work what can i do?
[02:27] <amikrop> Hello. I have this URL: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=gemrb What files I need from there, in order to build a binary package?
[02:27] <kevin__> ok when i turn my computer on the network manager asks for my keyring password how can i make it remember it? im wireless laptop on 8.10
[02:27] <Comrade-Sergei> how do I add the contents of a text file as a variable in bash?
[02:27] <snuitje> thiagoss: in iptables though iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i ethx -p tcp --dport 123 -j DNAT --to 192.168.123.123
[02:27] <snuitje> thiagoss: iirc
[02:28] <amikrop> Hello. I have this URL: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=gemrb What files I need from there, in order to build a binary package?
[02:28] <zsquareplusc> amikrop: orig.tgz, diff and dsc are usually downloaded when doing and apt-get source <pkg>
[02:28] <snuitje> thiagoss: that's what a load balancer should do, also you could try varnish
[02:28] <amikrop> zsquareplusc: and how do I build the binary package?
[02:28] <KlrSpz> zsquareplusc: snuitje: ok so i can hit hibernate and it actually shuts down, but when booting back up, it doesn't restore from hibernate.. logs no longer show any issues
[02:29] <zsquareplusc> Comrade-Sergei: FOO=`cat /etc/passwd`
[02:29] <gnutron> Myyoga: i'd suspect the source code first, then possibly /bin/dash  i never use #!/bin/dash in say a script, i dont know why ubuntu uses it
[02:29] <LosGeners> "Concatenate" results do not show after saving an Excel file into OPEN OFFICE format. Any idea?
[02:29] <KlrSpz> Comrade-Sergei: note the backticks
[02:29] <Comrade-Sergei> zsquareplusc, i was just about to ask
[02:29] <thiagoss> snuitje, what I'd like is that it should decide on the host based on the url (not a dns though, cause the servers have private ips). Different servers with different services under a lan.
[02:29] <kitche> KlrSpz: you have to have a resume=<device> line added to the kernel if you don't have one that you want to use hibernate correctly
[02:29] <zsquareplusc> KlrSpz: hm. i have the luck that it works here. i dont have experience with fixing it
[02:29] <Comrade-Sergei> thanks zsquareplusc and KlrSpz
[02:30] <KlrSpz> kitche: let me check; zsquareplusc: shucks!
[02:30] <LosGeners> "Concatenate" results do not show after saving an Excel file into OPEN OFFICE format. Any idea?
[02:30] <snuitje> i think varnish is your tool, apache can do it as well
[02:31] <snuitje> mod_proxy for apache is documented on their site, varnish also has documentation in their trac
[02:31] <gnutron> Myyoga: you have build-essential installed i presume?
[02:31] <Myyoga> gnutron: you dont happen to know if HandBrake is in a other repo, its not in synaptic..
[02:31] <Myyoga> gnutron: oh ya
[02:31] <gnutron> Myyoga: no idea
[02:31] <KlrSpz> kitche: sure enough i don't... i'm going to look at my backup from a week ago to see if i have it there... odddddd
[02:32] <LosGeners> "Concatenate" results do not show after saving an Excel file into OPEN OFFICE format. Any idea?
[02:32] <LosGeners> "Concatenate" results do not show after saving an Excel file into OPEN OFFICE format. Any idea?
[02:32] <mercutio22> doodes. I can't type into amsn
[02:32] <snuitje> gregbrady: you there?
[02:32] <KlrSpz> kitche: nope, not in my backup menu.lst
[02:32] <gnutron> Myyoga: i do know /bin/dash causes compile problems...not always though.
[02:32] <gregbrady> snuitje: yup, I installed it properly and no luck
[02:32] <snuitje> firefox sees it?
[02:33] <gregbrady> Nope
[02:33] <KlrSpz> kitche: any suggestions? i don't want to put it there really cuz my old system that it worked on perfectly didn't have it
[02:33] <snuitje> maybe we got the wrong dir then, did you try copying to ~/.mozilla/plugins ?
[02:33] <pan2342> turion x2 TL-60 works fine out of the box with ubuntu 8.10?
[02:34] <gnutron> Myyoga: try googling ubuntu and handbrake, you might get lucky
[02:34] <gregbrady> snuitje: nothing else in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins but libflashplayer.is
[02:34] <vraa> what is the best way to remotely restart a machine. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75314 <-- post #2 says "sudo shutdown -h now" or "sudo reboot"
[02:34] <gregbrady> *.so
[02:34] <Myyoga> gnutron: how does one move to /bin/bash instead of dash? sorry for the question, I've compiled programs in my CS class, I just dont know what the difference is between Dash and Bash
[02:34] <zsquareplusc> vraa: -h in shutdown is a bad idea. use -r
[02:34] <kitche> vraa: well shutdown -h now won't reboot, reboot will though
[02:35] <thiagoss> snuitje, Thanks, I'll take a look at those
[02:35] <vraa> so "sudo shutdown -r now" or "sudo reboot"
[02:35] <zsquareplusc> y
[02:35] <gnutron> Myyoga: dash interpreter is a ubuntu thing, i forget the fix but its simple to google
[02:35] <reid> anyone familiar with madwifi here?
[02:35] <gregbrady> snuitje: not a link or shortcut this time.  A real file.
[02:35] <qcjn> ok, computer don,t work without keyboard...i made a sudo shutdown -h now from ssh, and it s the computer i m on that shutdown
[02:35] <gregbrady> snuitje: still no luck
[02:35] <snuitje> gregbrady: is there firefox/plugins in /usr/lib32 or /usr/lib64 ?
[02:35] <vraa> is reboot = shutdown -r
[02:36] <vraa> aren't they different applications i am running?
[02:36] <gregbrady> snuitje: I will check
[02:36] <kitche> Myyoga: bash is used for the user really think /bin/dash is only used on the dpkg-reconfigure scripts
[02:36] <qcjn> i ve plugged my girlfriend's keyboard, and ssh didn't work till i opened a user session
[02:36] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: -h shuts down, -r would restart.
[02:36] <reid> anyone familiar with madwifi here?
[02:37] <snuitje> dash is used for /bin/sh which according to debian policy should be a posix-compliant shell
[02:37] <reid> preferrably successfully uing it =Ps
[02:37] <reid> using that is
[02:37] <gregbrady> snuitje: yes
[02:37] <KoFish_> pekwm_wp_menu is released!! Get it while it's hot... but begin using pekwm first!! http://www.pekwm.org/projects/11
[02:37] <kitche> reid: depends which madwifi
[02:37] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: oh wait, i think i know what happens to you.. the newtwork is managed by the network manager, and that is only run when a user logs in...
[02:37] <snuitje> gregbrady: hm maybe that's where firefox looks then
[02:37] <gnutron> qcjn: ive never had that problem on literally dozens of boxes, thats weird
[02:37] <snuitje> gregbrady: just copy it over and see what happens -_-'
[02:37] <gregbrady> snuitje: but there is a file there with the same name
[02:37] <Myyoga> Alright, thanks guys I really apreciate the help
[02:38] <snuitje> gregbrady: oh dont worry, it's probably the same then
[02:38] <snuitje> gregbrady: check the file size
[02:38] <Myyoga> I'll hack away at this a little later
[02:38] <Myyoga> Happy Thanksgiving!!!!
[02:38] <snuitje> what?
[02:38] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: thats what i wanted, but it didn't shut the remote computer, it shut down the computer i was on
[02:38] <gregbrady> snuitje: same size, same date
[02:38] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: ok
[02:39] <snuitje> gregbrady: same file then, checked lib64?
[02:39] <gregbrady> snuitje: yes.  Same file in lib as in lib64
[02:39] <snuitje> gregbrady: makes sense :)
[02:40] <gregbrady> snuitje: sense yes, works no
[02:40] <snuitje> gregbrady: ^-^
[02:40] <vraa> thanks guys, the machine restarted successfully :)
[02:40] <snuitje> gregbrady: run firefox from a terminal, see if you get any warnings
[02:40] <gnutron> zsquareplusc: i think you've solved it dude, that sounds like the culprit.
[02:40] <gregbrady> snuitje: good idea!
[02:40] <snuitje> gregbrady: load a flash page too, else firefox wont try to run it
[02:41] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading scroll down on the page the network upgrade for servers is what you want
[02:41] <vraa> what does it mean when a package has been "kept back"
[02:41] <gregbrady> snuitje: no, no errors, no feedback
[02:41] <snuitje> vraa: it won't get upgraded
[02:41] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: ok
[02:41] <vraa> snuitje: how can i find out why it won't get upgraded?
[02:42] <snuitje> gregbrady: it didn't background as well?
[02:42] <vraa> i ran "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade" update did not give any warnings
[02:42] <ss_> I have an old HP Laserjet 4L printer is detected by windows automatically and i can print docs by OO.o 3 there, here in Ubuntu Interpid I cannot find any such sign of printer when I press Ctrl P to print in OOo 3 any ideas how to use this printer in Ubuntu?
[02:42] <snuitje> vraa: try installing it, it'll probably want to remove a package
[02:42] <vitamin-carrot> any gamers in here with ut2004 exp?
[02:42] <vraa> installing "it" being... one of the kept back packages?
[02:42] <ardchoille> vraa: it might be a kernel upgrade, I just did that: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:42] <snuitje> vraa: apt-get upgrade does only safe upgrades, dist-upgrades allows for removal
[02:42] <gregbrady> snuitje: sure but no errors
[02:43] <snuitje> gregbrady: meanwhile about:plugins mentions nothing about flash?
[02:43] <gregbrady> keithclark@ubuntu:~$ firefox
[02:43] <gregbrady> ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG = (null)
[02:43] <gregbrady> keithclark@ubuntu:~$ firefox &
[02:43] <gregbrady> [1] 7583
[02:43] <gregbrady> keithclark@ubuntu:~$ ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG = (null)
[02:43] <FloodBot2> gregbrady: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:43] <vraa> is that safe to do? isn't that going to move me from 8.04 to 8.10?
[02:43] <fer> hi, excuse me... can u tell me if there's a channel for new users
[02:43] <ardchoille> vraa: no, it won't, yes, it's safe
[02:43] <snuitje> vraa: use do-release-upgrade -d
[02:43] <gnutron> fer: this is the place
[02:44] <vraa> so i should do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and then "sudo apt-get do-release-upgrade -d"
[02:44] <snuitje> vraa: no apt-get just sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[02:44] <ardchoille> vraa: are you wanting to upgrade to 8.10?
[02:45] <vraa> well, when i was at work, the computer had the orange icon at top, so i updated and it said i needed to restart. but i forgot to restart it, so now i am at home and i have ssh access to my machine
[02:45] <vraa> i just rebooted it, because i needed to reboot it, the computer had that blue arrows in a circle message
[02:45] <ardchoille> vraa: there was a recent kernel upgrade, so that's probably why it needed a restart
[02:45] <thomasite> Hi to all. I'm using an Acer Aspire 5570ANWXCi which runs on 8.10. Months ago, when I was still using Windoze, I just switch on this button for me to connect to the Internet through WiFi. The said button works everytime, and there's an indicator that it does (a yellow light). However, now that I'm using Ubuntu, no matter how many times I switch the button, the light indicator does not function and I cannot connect through WiFi. How do I solve this? Tha
[02:45] <gregbrady> snuitje: At a loss here
[02:45] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: not sure if that works after the upgrade..
[02:46] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: ok, i was reading about it
[02:46] <snuitje> gregbrady: you've got libflashplayer in the same dir where gnash plugin was installed, so that ought to be allright
[02:46] <vraa> oh i see, thanks guys, this is pretty neat
[02:46] <gregbrady> snuitje: no
[02:46] <snuitje> gregbrady: not?
[02:47] <Comrade-Sergei> hey zsquareplusc, I set those up and now its like it tries to run the variable as its oun subscript when i assign them? wtf?
[02:47] <snuitje> gregbrady: what was libflashalternative then?
[02:47] <gregbrady> snuitje: no
[02:47] <gregbrady> snuitje: I have no idea.  I deleted that
[02:48] <gnutron> qcjn: i wish you the best of luck, i need a break...holidays are too depressing.
[02:48] <gnutron> zsquareplusc: thanks for all the tips :)
[02:48] <qcjn> gnutron: ok
[02:48] <qcjn> gnutron: thanks
[02:49] <clever> The following packages have unmet dependencies: libqt4-debug: Depends: libqt4-gui (= 4.3.4-0ubuntu3) but 4.4.0-1ubuntu5~hardy1 is to be installed
[02:49] <snuitje> gregbrady: well if google doesn't know how to install flash player 64bit, and this game of trial-and-error doesn't work, then sorry but i can't help you... try the mozillazine forum there are lots of helpful mozilla people there
[02:49] <kandjar> i m encountering some issue with my bluetooth mouse, anyone to help?
[02:49] <gnutron> zsquareplusc: your nick rocks btw.  see ya
[02:49] <shawna> I have an external hard drive that I've mounted, but the stacks plugger applet in Avant Window Navigator doesn't display it because the icon that I saved for it got deleted. How can I fix it so that the drive shows up in the applet?
[02:49] <thebishop> my screen went black HELP!!!!
[02:50] <gregbrady> snuitje: I have straight forward hardware here.....ATI Radeon Xpress 200M, AMD 64 processor.....this should be easy and common.
[02:50] <zsquareplusc> Comrade-Sergei: the backticks run a command and give you the output to be stored in a variable or passed on the command line. e.g. ls -l `which sudo`
[02:51] <pan2342> which do u guys prefer intel core duo or amd turion x2?
[02:51] <snuitje> gregbrady: hehe yeah, you mean "I've got the latest AMD 3,5GHz CPU, 6GB of RAM, 2TB hdd space and the pc refuses to work? WTH!"
[02:51] <zsquareplusc> Comrade-Sergei: what do you really want to do? do you really need the variable?
[02:51] <Comrade-Sergei> zsquareplusc, ah so i should like cat that file or something huh?
[02:51] <snuitje> gregbrady: funny it doesn't work like that :D
[02:51] <Comrade-Sergei> zsquareplusc, yea i need one
[02:51] <gregbrady> snuitje: nah, ubuntu is just not mature enough for us laptop users.  I really hope they keep trying though!  Back to XP where things work.
[02:51] <wos> whats the deal with installing the java plugin in firefox, why doesnt it just work?
[02:51] <snuitje> gregbrady: hm, i could say the same thing about windows
[02:52] <gregbrady> snuitje: XP works just fine
[02:52] <snuitje> gregbrady: it would definately be detrimental to my laptop and what i do with it
[02:52] <gregbrady> snuitje: Vista is just fine....
[02:52] <gregbrady> snuitje: and I'm sure this laptop sold more than 1 copyt.
[02:53] <snuitje> gregbrady: i'm sure they sold a million of mine too -_-'' it's just a matter of what choices the vendors make
[02:53] <zsquareplusc> Comrade-Sergei: most commands that work with larger input take it from stdin, so "cat file | less"   or "less < file"  (apart from "less file" that would work anyway) all do the same
[02:54] <gregbrady> snuitje: Linux cannot afford to wait for the hardware guys.  They will not bend as it does not pay.  Pretty simple
[02:54] <snuitje> gregbrady: linux is a kernel whose development is being sponsored by some very big corporates in the it industry
[02:55] <gregbrady> snuitje: and lord knows I've fought it out here to make it work.  I've been here for about 20-30 hours.  That is not free time.
[02:55] <Comrade-Sergei> zsquareplusc, nah im taking imput from wget
[02:55] <snuitje> gregbrady: other companys can choose to ignore that at their peril
[02:55] <ardchoille> !ot
[02:55] <clever> !apt
[02:56] <snuitje> gregbrady: well i dont think the lord is involved in such matters ^-^
[02:56] <zsquareplusc> Comrade-Sergei: then "wget -O -" could be interesing, then you can send the data to the next program using |
[02:56] <IdleOne> and as well should not be
[02:56] <gregbrady> snuitje: well, I'm confident I gave it a fair share here.  My laptops are just not compatible with Linux
[02:56] <gregbrady> snuitje: and I don't want to support multiple platforms.
[02:57] <snuitje> gregbrady: oh it is mostly, it's just the software you want to run on top of linux
[02:57] <Comrade-Sergei> zsquareplusc, yea thats what im doing
[02:57] <geckosenator> how do I enable framebuffer support?
[02:57] <gregbrady> snuitje: basic flash?  Youtube is a pretty basic need these days
[02:57] <snuitje> gregbrady: tried http://www.keepvid.com/ ?
[02:58] <Comrade-Sergei> zsquareplusc, heres what im doing http://pastebin.ca/1269112
[02:58] <snuitje> gregbrady: if not with totem, it may still work with vlc
[02:58] <gregbrady> snuitje: with all my users?
[02:58] <fbc> Why does running intrepid consume almost double the memory.. I used to have 33% memory used on boot and now I have 66% memory in use by programs on boot.
[02:58] <snuitje> gregbrady: there's almost always a way, technically everything is possible
[02:58] <ST47> My ubuntu laptop keeps trying to use DHCP to configure my static IP network, how do I make it stop
[02:58] <gregbrady> snuitje: no, but thanks for your help!  You really tried here.
[02:58] <kitche> fbc: the same reason that system requirements go up with each new version of a software
[02:58] <snuitje> gregbrady: sure i want it to work as much as you do
[02:59] <IdleOne> fbc, uneeded services starting up that you forgot to disable after upgrade perhaps
[02:59] <gregbrady> snuitje: I just does not
[02:59] <snuitje> gregbrady: except i would never give up linux except maybe for freebsd :)
[02:59] <zsquareplusc> Comrade-Sergei: heh, ive done such scripts too, a while ago. well i did it in python. but i think the backticks ` are missing (or at least not in the paste)
[02:59] <LF|Irssi> <3 FreeBSD
[02:59] <KlrSpz> kitche: ok so weird, i put that resume option on my kernel line, and it works
[03:00] <ST47> Ahem. Why won't it honor /etc/network/interfaces
[03:00] <kitche> LF|Irssi: good for you there is a ##freebsd channel go say that there at least I don't go to other system rooms and say stuff like that
[03:00] <Comrade-Sergei> zsquareplusc, well you see what im trying to do here now then
[03:00] <KlrSpz> kitche: but the thing is my last install didn't have that.. anywhere else it might be?
[03:00] <kandjar> can anyone help me? I can't get my mouse to work
[03:00] <fbc> IdleOne, I thought the same thing, so I backup my home dir, and did an intrepid install from scratch. Plus I ned added any startup service, it was default.
[03:00] <Comrade-Sergei> zsquareplusc, spent 3 nights on this now
[03:00] <gluonman> I have an external hard drive opened, but stacks plugger in AWN won't display it. I think it's because I manually changed the display picture, but I accidentally deleted the display picture. What should I do to fix it?
[03:00] <mercutio22> hello, cam I somehow repeat the latest kernel update
[03:00] <gregbrady> snuitje: hey, I gave it a fair chance here.  I tried to put it on all my machines here.
[03:01] <LF|Irssi> kitche: how bout you shut up? I was just commenting on what someone said bout Freebsd.
[03:01] <snuitje> gregbrady: yep, me too ^_^
[03:01] <gregbrady> snuitje: but alas, I can only afford to support one working platorm.
[03:01] <kitche> LF|Irssi: nah I won't at least I stay on topic
[03:01] <aik> people, ask me plz, how i can move reiserfs partition if she mounted to /
[03:01] <aik> ?
[03:01] <snuitje> gregbrady: so you're still running ubuntu on your desktop? over the network ubuntu and windows can coexist well
[03:02] <zsquareplusc> Comrade-Sergei: you could also use if diff f1 f1; do
[03:02] <zsquareplusc> Comrade-Sergei: if diff a b >/dev/null; then echo "same"; else echo "diff"; fi
[03:02] <gregbrady> snuitje: yes, but I have to change over now
[03:02] <ST47> Ok guys, easier question
[03:02] <fbc> kitche, I think your right. even with a 1.8ghz 64-bit turion and 1 gig of ram, it's time for and upgrade.
[03:02] <zsquareplusc> Comrade-Sergei: so you compare files w/o variables
[03:02] <snuitje> gregbrady: you're gonna uninstall ubuntu on your desktop because youtube wont work on your laptop?
[03:02] <ST47> I want to file a bug against a feature, but I don't know what package offers that feature
[03:02] <gluonman> I need help figuring out how to get my external hard drive to show up in stacks plugger.
[03:02] <ST47> You know how you press ctrl-alt-f1?
[03:02] <LF|Irssi> omg kitche just stfu already ok? I can state my opinions if i feel like it.
[03:02] <gregbrady> snuitje: Yes....only one platform
[03:02] <ST47> And that gives you a terminal
[03:03] <Comrade-Sergei> zsquareplusc, can we private this is gonna get ugly for me
[03:03] <snuitje> gregbrady: that sounds silly...
[03:03] <wos> can anyone tell me how to get java working in firefox?
[03:03] <ST47> Sometimes it doesn't work right, who do I complain to
[03:03] <zsquareplusc> Comrade-Sergei: ok
[03:03] <gregbrady> snuitje: why?  One set of tools, resources.
[03:04] <gregbrady> snuitje: I'm not going to split users
[03:04] <ms_exodus> if i setup an ubuntu network with diskless clients can I still run VirtualBox on those clients
[03:04] <wos> hello?
[03:04] <snuitje> gregbrady: you can have samba keep a roaming profile so you have the same files on both oses
[03:05] <mercutio22> eveytime there's a kernel update, my menu.lst is messed up. Something is making it assign linux to (hd0,5) intead of (hd0,4) where it lays
[03:05] <gregbrady> snuitje: I understand your ideas here.  But XP works on all machines as purchased.
[03:05] <gregbrady> snuitje: pretty simple.
[03:05] <snuitje> wos: try installing sun-java6-plugin
[03:06] <wos> snuitje i installed the fkng thing
[03:06] <snuitje> gregbrady: hm well at least you can run gimp, oo.o and firefox under windows
[03:06] <wos> whoops sorry
[03:06] <wos> but this thing is so frustrating
[03:06] <gregbrady> snuitje: and I do!
[03:06] <wos> every step of the way
[03:06] <wos> i have a problem
[03:06] <ardchoille> wos: did you restart firefox?
[03:06] <wos> yes
[03:07] <Ninina> I just installed ubuntu 8.10 and I'm getting some weird artifacts in the top boarders of my windows.  I'm using a NVidia GeForce 7950 GT with the version 177 restricted drivers
[03:07] <ja-barr> anyone has had problems with the virtualbox permission problem even after putting my current user to the vboxuser group
[03:07] <gregbrady> snuitje: I just want the devs to see the real problems here.
[03:07] <snuitje> gregbrady: allright, eventually micros~1 is just going to stop supporting xp
[03:07] <ardchoille> snuitje , gregbrady perhaps the XP stuff is better served in #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[03:07] <wos> Ninina, are you getting lines across your window boarders ?
[03:07] <gregbrady> snuitje: I see pretty stuff added, but basic real users are left out.
[03:07] <r3dux> Ninina,  - try changing window manager to emerald or metacity, see if you get the same prob
[03:07] <gregbrady> ardchoille: yes, thanks.
[03:07] <mercutio22> because of that the nvidia dkms thing was not properly installed
[03:07] <mercutio22> help
[03:07] <KlrSpz> what's the command to rewrite the grub menu???
[03:08] <snuitje> gregbrady: im no dev, if you want a soapbox this isn't it
[03:08] <mercutio22> KlrSpz> sudo update-grup
[03:08] <gregbrady> snuitje: thanks for the help though.  You sure did try.
[03:08] <Ninina> wos: more like they turn white and the minimize/maximize/close buttons vanish
[03:08] <snuitje> gregbrady: just trying to do my part -_-' yw
[03:08] <Ninina> r3dux: how would I go about doing that?
[03:08] <gregbrady> snuitje: and you did.  Above and beyond
[03:08] <wos> yeah change your to metacity
[03:08] <KlrSpz> mercutio22: ah, yeah
[03:08] <r3dux> nin - do you use compiz?
[03:09] <r3dux> nin - if so, run fusion-icon, and do it from that
[03:09] <Ninina> r3dux: I only have what the ubuntu installer installed
[03:09] <r3dux> Ninina, - right click on sys tray icon, select window manager then reload window manager
[03:09] <fbc> Anyone know why I my system monitor show two copies of X running? The second one says KAS_event or something.
[03:10] <r3dux> fbc - twinview thing??
[03:10] <fbc> r3dux, I'm on a laptop.. with no external monitor connected
[03:10] <r3dux> fbc - hehe, no idea then soz
[03:11] <Ninina> r3dux: I have no icon like that
[03:11] <snuitje> gregbrady: if you get tired of xp someday, theres still ubuntu 32bit which has working flash ;)
[03:11] <r3dux> Ninina, sudo apt-get install fusion-icon
[03:11] <gregbrady> snuitje: not with >4 GB
[03:11] <mercutio22> how can I start restricted drivers manager from the shell please?
[03:12] <snuitje> gregbrady: well linux does support that, but i've never tried it in practice
[03:12] <Alastair> any xchat users awake ? xD
[03:12] <ardchoille> Alastair: yes
[03:12] <r3dux> Double yes ;)
[03:12] <Alastair> i have one question :p
[03:12] <snuitje> gregbrady: 768MB here :P
[03:12] <snuitje> !ask | Alastair
[03:13] <Alastair> can you have favourite channels but not autojoin all of them as soon as you connect to a server :?
[03:13] <Ninina> r3dux: ok that fixed the problem and I seem to have gotten a performance increase as well, it was being a little sluggish
[03:13] <Lunar_Lamp> Alastair: try #xchat :-)
[03:13] <snuitje> yeah, i never autojoin #ubuntu yet it's one of my favourite channels
[03:14] <gregbrady> snuitje: I believe it does in 64 bit mode
[03:14] <kandjar> my bluetooth mouse stop working after reboot.. can someone help me?
[03:14] <snuitje> gregbrady: also in 32bit mode, support was added in linux 2.3.something iirc
[03:15] <Ninina> r3dux: is there anyway to get compiz to work right? I didn't have a problem under 8.04...maybe if I used the 173 drivers?
[03:15] <mercutio22> I can't see the ubuntu panel, is it possible to launch restricted drivers manager from the shell??
[03:15] <ardchoille> Alastair: PM?
[03:15] <snuitje> gregbrady: even windows has it, if you add the /PAE kernel parameter
[03:16] <Dr_willis_> mercutio22,  the command is like 'jockey-SOMTHING' use the tab key to complete the name :)
[03:16] <snuitje> gregbrady: but that's known to be buggy and most drivers don't like it
[03:16] <gregbrady> snuitje: ah, I have to see about that
[03:16] <r3dux> Ninina, 177 drivers are out. compiz works fine for me :)
[03:16] <r3dux> Alastair, http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=xchat+join+favourite+channels+on+start
[03:17] <ejer> mercutio22: /usr/bin/jockey-gtk
[03:17] <gregbrady> snuitje: I don't know where else to go here.  I can't believe that I can't play a simple youtube video....hmmmmmmmmm
[03:17] <snuitje> gregbrady: yes, we can :D
[03:17] <gregbrady> snuitje: maybe a second breather and beer are required
[03:17] <snuitje> gregbrady: i mostly use http://www.keepvid.com/ and mplayer
[03:17] <Ninina> r3dux: well they aren't working for me T_T really bad performance + artifacts atleast under 8.10
[03:18] <snuitje> gregbrady: i'm out of beer :P could get some tho
[03:18] <Alastair> ardchoille: what do you mean with PM? xD
[03:18] <r3dux> Ninina - am on 8.10 - works fine... not sure why yours would be all b0rked
[03:18] <ardchoille> Alastair: may I PM you?
[03:18] <gregbrady> snuitje: I'll buy you a beer anyday....
[03:18] <mercutio22> thanks Dr_willis_
[03:18] <Alastair> yea, you don't even have to ask for my premission to do that :lol:
[03:18] <mercutio22> brb
[03:19] <maple1> how much does dollar beer cost?
[03:19] <Ninina> r3dux: me either...almost just want to say f it and install again to see if I can get a better result
[03:19] <r3dux> haha
[03:19] <snuitje> gregbrady: heh thanks =)
[03:19] <gregbrady> snuitje: anytime
[03:19] <gluonman> Can anyone explain how I can make my external hard drive appear in my stacks plugger in awn?
[03:19] <gregbrady> snuitje: Depending on location though!
[03:19] <r3dux> Ninina, if you do that prolly best to do "purge" instead of "remove" with apt - should get rid of any mangled configs, in theory
[03:19] <snuitje> gregbrady: getting offtopic ^-^'''
[03:20] <gregbrady> snuitje: actually, I'll mail you a beer
[03:20] <snuitje> gregbrady: please dont :)
[03:20] <maple1> I'm drunk
[03:20] <gregbrady> snuitje: good point
[03:20] <r3dux> It'd be all warm..
[03:20] <maple1> is now the time to partition my drive and install ubuntu?
[03:20] <gregbrady> maple1 carry on
[03:20] <Ninina> r3dux: since it's been all of 10 min since I did a format + install I think I'll just wipe the drive
[03:20] <ms_exodus> anyone have any experience with setting up a LTSP server / client config with diskless clients
[03:21] <snuitje> yep
[03:21] <bazhang> maple1, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:21] <r3dux> Ninina - <grins> Fair point. G'luck w/ 2nd try
[03:21] <atari2600a> so I'm installing Ubuntu from a thumbdrive but now it's halting on 'resizing partition'
[03:21] <mOUSTACHI>  check out this chick :) http://www.sexyemilie.com/?id=56594
[03:21] <gregbrady> snuitje: well, my mail offer was refused :(
[03:21] <atari2600a> I'm resizing my little brothers main NTFS partition with all his shit on it so it CAN'T crash now
[03:21] <atari2600a> what do I do!!!
[03:21] <ardchoille> Thank you
[03:22] <cellofellow> I mistakenly deleted a a file, but the vim .swp file is still there. Can I recover the original file from the .swp file?
[03:22] <bazhang> atari2600a, please watch the language
[03:22] <cellofellow> oh, there we go, yup!
[03:22] <kandjar> can anybody help me with some bluetooth issue????
[03:22] <atari2600a> dude
[03:22] <atari2600a> gpartedd CAN'T CRASH NOW
[03:22] <snuitje> gregbrady: mailing liquids is tricky
[03:22] <atari2600a> what do I do!
[03:22] <r3dux> atari - wait a while with fingers crossed?
[03:23] <atari2600a> then what!
[03:23] <r3dux> Could just be going slow?
[03:23] <matthias_> hi anybody that made it connecting to an hidden wireless WIFI
[03:23] <_nix-user> anyone can help me about dd command? I want to clonning from a partition to another partition but doesn't has same space. The source partition is /dev/sda7 has 7.4 GB and the target partition is /dev/sda5 has 12 GB. I just run dd if=/dev/sda7 of=/dev/sda5 and the result is the space of sda5 is same with sda7, what should I do? please help me, I'm really confused
[03:23] <gregbrady> snuitje: well, the thought was there
[03:23] <snuitje> ms_exodus: any issues with it?
[03:23] <Alastair> if your hdd led is on and you hear scratching noises from the PC everything is fine xD
[03:23] <gregbrady> snuitje: If you are ever in Waterloo, ON  then I will buy drinks.
[03:23] <ardchoille> snuitje , gregbrady  that really needs to go to #ubuntu-offtopic . This is a support channel, not general chat.
[03:23] <r3dux> _nix > format sda7 then copy all over?
[03:23] <Sierradump> Im noticing strange behavior on a fresh install of Ubuntu 8.10.  Occasionally the title bar for application windows disappears or appears distorted... (the title bar is the bar with the  minimize window, full screen window, and (X) close window)
[03:24] <FFEMTcJ> Sierradump: ive had the same problem on one of my systems
[03:24] <snuitje> gregbrady: pm if you want ^^
[03:24] <gregbrady> ardchoille: ok, I'm done
[03:24] <truebosko> Silly question .. if someone asks about firewalls on linux, is suggesting them to read up on iptables the right idea ? :)
[03:24] <Alastair> resizing a partition is very lengthy process
[03:24] <_nix-user> r3dux: sda7 is the ubuntu system so I want to clon to the sda5
[03:25] <ardchoille> truebosko: yes, iptables is good for that
[03:25] <Sierradump> FFEMTcJ:  were you able to remedy?  Out of curiosity did you use the nVidia 177 drivers?
[03:25] <r3dux> truebosko, - could do that, or just have a look at guarddog to do the iptables stuff for you
[03:25] <ardchoille> !firestarter
[03:25] <truebosko> ardchoille / r3dux : thanks, firestarter was also something mentioned
[03:25] <FFEMTcJ> Sierradump: nope.. no fix yet.. dont know what drivers.. wifes computers
[03:25] <matthias_> anyone that can help me getting connected to my wirlesll router but with ssid invisible , i am having problem to connect to if and the funny thing is that my password is encrypted and not as i have in the router ...
[03:25] <truebosko> just wanted to make sure im on the right mindset here, heh
[03:25] <FFEMTcJ> s/computers/computer
[03:25] <r3dux> _nix > format sda5 then copy all over? [Sorry! Good catch!]
[03:25] <atari2600a> Alastair: with 10mins on 0%!?
[03:26] <Sierradump> FFEMTcJ:  by any chance do you get a ram size error during boot?
[03:26] <FFEMTcJ> Sierradump: dont know.. like i said, its the wifes system.. so i dont spend enough time on it to know.. sorry
[03:27] <Sierradump> FFEMTcJ:  crap cuz its really annoying!!!!
[03:27] <r3dux> atari2600a, I feel for you... that's a bad situation... hopefully it's crashed on kicking off the op or after doing it! Hope it works out.
[03:27] <Alastair> atari2600a, yea, depending on how large the partition is it can take several hours
[03:27] <_nix-user> r3dux: yes, I've formated sda5 and I just run the dd command. When I boot from sda5, the size is same with sda7 (from df -h command) but when I checked it from fdisk, the size is different
[03:27] <FFEMTcJ> Sierradump: i can imagine.. does it come back after a minute or two? my wifes does
[03:27] <Alastair> if the hdd is working there is no problem
[03:27] <twb> So the government has told me that they want their 8.04 desktops to look like Vista.  And the vista themes on gnome-look are just bloody awful.  Is there a way to make 8.04 pretend to be Vista that doesn't involve dealing with idiot themers?
[03:27] <atari2600a> I'm just knocking off 31gb off the partition
[03:27] <kandjar> Is there anyone who can help me with my bluetooth issue????
[03:28] <bazhang> !bluetooth
[03:28] <Sierradump> FFEMTcJ:  Hasn't happened since I typed the question!  Its probably watching me!
[03:28] <lazukars1> What is the prefered cd/dvd burning software for Ubuntu?
[03:28] <Sierradump> HOWEVER -- if I close or minimize the application and reopen it --- it will then disappear.
[03:28] <r3dux> _nix - oddness. Try formatting sda5, mount it and copy everything with cp -R or whatnot
[03:28] <Alastair> yup, but if the partition is 500gb you'll have to wait a lot of time
[03:28] <matthias_> anyone that uses wireless and connected to router with ssid invcisible ...
[03:28] <sebsebseb> lazukars1:  the default one is ok, but K3B is one that is hightly recommend by Linux people
[03:29] <lazukars1> sebsebseb: thanks you!
[03:29] <ms_exodus> snuitje, just thinking about configuring a network with LTSP looking in the forums but was curious as to what other uses experience where
[03:29] <sebsebseb> lazukars1: yep K3B pretty good
[03:29] <DrK> anyone know what the irc channel for ubuntu SE is?
[03:29] <matthias_> lazukars1:  are you going to burn mp3 toaudio music ...
[03:29] <sebsebseb> yes
[03:29] <sebsebseb> DrK:  #ubuntu-se
[03:29] <DrK> sebsebseb: tyvm
[03:30] <lazukars1> matthias_: more for data.  I am just looking for an all around good one.
[03:30] <sebsebseb> Drk:  inget problem
[03:30] <r3dux> matthias_, SSID off doesn't matter AFAIK - mine routers SSID is off and I'm here...
[03:30] <_nix-user> r3dux: Can I boot it from the result copy of sda5?
[03:30] <sebsebseb> DrK:  inget problem
[03:30] <lazukars1> sebsebseb: would you do sudo apt-get installl K3B to install
[03:30] <lazukars1> minus the typo
[03:31] <sebsebseb> yep
[03:31] <r3dux> atari2600a - just had an idea! Ctrl-Alt-F3 or someth (if you can) - could try dmesg | tail and see what's going on?
[03:31] <sebsebseb> sudo apt-get install k3b should do it
[03:31] <ejer> lazukars1: k3b - lowercase
[03:31] <r3dux> But you said you'd rebooted already? =/
[03:31] <mrwes> re
[03:32] <matthias_> lazukars1:  okey but in case you will burn mp3 music to normal audio data than you need to install some extra codec in the repository, just look in the libk3b ....- codecs ...
[03:32] <vontux> hi, does anyone know if it is possible to find all need drivers for the newer toshiba laptops?
[03:32] <kandjar> bazhang: my bluetooth mouse is detected, but I can't establish the connectio nwith it/... It worked the first time. but stop working after a reboot
[03:32] <mrwes> lazukars1, Look into ABCDE, A Better CD Extractor, it's command line but it roxs
[03:32] <r3dux> lazukars1, you can burn to CD from Amarok apparently, but not tried it.
[03:32] <r3dux> For CD extraction I kinda like grip - does the job for me.
[03:33] <matthias_> r3dux:  it is an differance one is visible and the other is hidden and you can not just click on it and connect , how did you do that to connect to an invisible wireless router ???
[03:33] <r3dux> matthias_, I either entered the SSID manually or had SSID turned on, connected and saved connection settings then turned SSID off at router.
[03:33] <debianconverts> HELLO SIRS, how come intrepid detect my ata hd as SATA?
[03:33] <snuitje> ms_exodus: well, 64MB of RAM on the thin client wasn't enough for edubuntu
[03:34] <snuitje> ms_exodus: but overall it worked pretty neat
[03:34] <r3dux> matthias_, it's been a while, not sure which method I used.
[03:34] <snuitje> ms_exodus: it's better when the server doesn't have to create a swap file for the client, so the client can swap pages over the network (ugh)
[03:35] <r3dux> Anyways, enough timewasting for me - back to the OpenGL Superbible... cyaz
[03:35] <MrCollins> How can I get flash to play sound, from youtube.com videos, I can play sound from totem using my digital out on my audigy 2, but no sound comes from flash in firefox. Can someone point me to a good howto?
[03:35] <pancho> hola
[03:35] <rraj_be> Could any one help me top package a c source program into debian package
[03:36] <rraj_be> any help please
[03:36] <pancho> what hapend?
[03:36] <steve__> when i watch youtube videos no sound comes thru
[03:36] <rraj_be> any help please
[03:36] <Sierradump> Can anyone tell me how to install SKYPE on 8.10 64bit?  Is it dialed in now or is there still a whole process of things to do to get it to work?
[03:37] <MrCollins> Steve__ me too
[03:37] <mrwes> Sierradump, man...you on fire today aye?
[03:37] <mrwes> heh
[03:37] <mrpockets> Is there a way to install Ubuntu without the GUI?
[03:37] <mcj_> Hey all. Uhh, kinda serious problem here. X.org says it doesn't detect any devices after I upgraded my kernel and now I can't get Xserver to run without it being in "low-grphics mode."
[03:37] <snuitje> mrpockets: install a commandline system
[03:37] <mcj_> mrpockets: Alternate installer.
[03:37] <Sierradump> mrwes:  I love this thing - couple of issues but I am really liking it so far!
[03:37] <usser> rraj_be, if your c program uses a make file then you can use checkinstall to roll into a .deb package
[03:37] <snuitje> mrpockets: use the alternate installer or the dvd
[03:37] <rraj_be> why you need such mrpockets
[03:38] <mrwes> Sierradump, good for you
[03:38] <mrpockets> rraj_be, server
[03:38] <rraj_be> fine and thanks a lot usser
[03:38] <LF|Irssi> "...a whole process of things to do to get it to work"   Ohh that's the fun part of Linux :)
[03:38] <Sierradump> battery life isn't as bad as I thought either - I am getting about 1.5hr
[03:38] <rraj_be> but could you give me live one to one help
[03:38] <rraj_be> i am very new to this usser
[03:38] <mrwes> Sierradump, yah I get about 2 hours
[03:38] <rraj_be> Actually server install of ubuntu wont give you GUI
[03:38] <Alastair> Sierradump, use the medibuntu repo
[03:39] <MrCollins> rraj_be, sounds like you would like to hire usser ;)
[03:39] <usser> rraj_be, is it your own project?
[03:39] <rraj_be> yeah
[03:39] <usser> rraj_be, does it have a makefile?
[03:39] <Sierradump> mrwes:  I haven't messed with power settings either - I may be able to get it to stretch out a little longer...
[03:39] <rraj_be> some what modified the source from internet
[03:39] <Sierradump> Alastair: medibuntu?
[03:39] <_21h_> how to make djvu files under linux?
[03:39] <ms_exodus> snuitje, cool. thanks for the input!
[03:40] <Sierradump> Alastair: I am new to linux could you give me a quick rundown on what I need to do?
[03:40] <rraj_be> i just have c program with .c extension . .i have done small programs but not yet any applications usser
[03:40] <rraj_be> its my first project
[03:40] <mcj_> X server says no screens are found on my system. So... what do I do?
[03:40] <rraj_be> MrCollins: really i am very basic user . . . .so only
[03:40] <mrwes> Sierradump, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[03:41] <snuitje> ms_exodus: also, dont try to be too clever, edubuntu takes care of a lot more things you'd ever care to think of, so follow the book and let it do its thing :)
[03:41] <mrwes> !Medibuntu | Sierradump
[03:41] <mrwes> w00p
[03:41] <rraj_be> usser:  what should i do now . . ??
[03:41] <snuitje> ms_exodus: i tried intervening things but rly it's better to try it like how it's meant to be before trying to tweak things
[03:41] <MrCollins> is there is a good howto on youtube.com videos + nosound for ubuntu?
[03:42] <usser> rraj_be, you will need to create a simple makefile http://mrbook.org/tutorials/make/
[03:42] <usser> rraj_be, something like all: gcc filename.c -o programname
[03:42] <rraj_be> sure . . . i will have a look there
[03:42] <mrwes> MrCollins, did you g00gle it?
[03:42] <mouseboyx> how do you reconfigure xorg so that you can pick from  a list of video drivers, my real problem is that when i install xserver-video-intel, it does not write the driver to xorg.conf file....  http://pastebin.com/m3351e38d
[03:43] <mrwes> MrCollins, what version of ubunut?
[03:43] <ms_exodus> snuitje, will do. looking at some working examples in the forums right now. When I'm done I'll post there my results in ubuntuForums under tbuss. Thanks again
[03:43] <MrCollins> mrwes, I have googled it and have done several things
[03:43] <mouseboyx> xgl is not running, but i can still do 3d rendering, like glxgears?
[03:43] <MrCollins> mrwes, I have 8.10
[03:44] <mouseboyx> my xorg.conf file does not have anything in it...
[03:44] <snuitje> ms_exodus: i started by runnin the server in a virtual machine and a real thin client that has pxeboot
[03:44] <snuitje> *running
[03:44] <zerodevice> hi everyone
[03:44] <MrCollins> mrwes, I did apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:44] <Sierradump> Got it mrwes thank you!!!!! and alastair!
[03:44] <CarlFK> Ekiga doesn't seem to be picking up anything from my mic.  volume control gui shows 3 mics: Docking, External, Internal.  how do I know what ekiga is using?
[03:44] <MrCollins> mrwes, and I did apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[03:44] <zerodevice> im having some trouble with the file access permission thing.
[03:44] <MrCollins> restarted firefox and restarted ubuntu
[03:45] <mrwes> MrCollins, You running flash 10?
[03:45] <MrCollins> mrwes, I am using a digital out *not optical* on an audigy 2 card....
[03:45] <MrCollins> mrwes, yes.
[03:45] <Sierradump> mrwes,  have you experienced any weird behavior of the title bar, sometimes my application bar disappears or appears distorted...
[03:45] <rraj_be> done usser
[03:45] <rraj_be> whats next
[03:46] <zerodevice> how come everytime i scan an image file from xsane and the permission is set to "others: Access: none"? this gave me a hard time when i am trying to share those files to other user.
[03:46] <mrwes> MrCollins, try this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=964165
[03:46] <mrwes> Sierradump, you have desktop effects turned on?
[03:46] <maple1> I popped 5 dexedrine just to tolerate linux
[03:46] <zerodevice> is there anyway to make whatever files in that folder once and for all "read-white"?
[03:46] <usser> rraj_be, thats for compiling, there has to be target install so that make knows where to install the binary
[03:46] <rraj_be> usser:
[03:46] <maple1> and then had 3 beers
[03:46] <maple1> how do you think I feel?
[03:46] <usser> rraj_be, add another entry install: /usr/bin
[03:46] <Sierradump> mrwes: I do not have any desktop effects turned on?  Haven't gotten there yet!
[03:47] <mrwes> hrmm
[03:47] <rraj_be> i have just ran this one usser " gcc raj.c -o programname -lSDL_mixer"
[03:47] <maple1> wtf
[03:47] <rraj_be> what is command i heve to run acctually  . . .
[03:47] <bazhang> maple1, stay on topic
[03:47] <Sierradump> like right now, my title bar is missing... I can see the (-) minimize button and thats it...
[03:47] <rraj_be> usser:
[03:47] <mouseboyx> how do you reconfigure xorg so that you can pick from  a list of video drivers, my real problem is that when i install xserver-video-intel, it does not write the driver to xorg.conf file....  http://pastebin.com/m3351e38d, this config file is very limited, is it supposed to be like this?
[03:47] <usser> rraj_be, my bad sorry
[03:48] <rraj_be> what usser
[03:48] <mrwes> Sierradump, try searching here http://www.googlubuntu.com/
[03:48] <usser> rraj_be, hm, whats up with -lSDL_mixer?
[03:48] <rraj_be> i have that out file and source  alone now
[03:48] <snuitje> Sierradump: titlebar corruptness, i had that on very rare occasions only with compiz enabled
[03:48] <mercutio22> People, I am in dire need of help. Its the second day this happens to me in a row. Afters the latest kernel update I can' t boot into ubuntu. I have a clue whats causing it, but I am not sure how to fix it. I suppose it has something to do with fstab UUIDs and grub. I recently lost my partition table, recovered it and was booting normally, but the system breaks with every update
[03:48] <CarlFK> usser: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes ?
[03:48] <rraj_be> its for compiling a SDL file usser
[03:48] <Sierradump> mrwes:  good site, added to bookmarks!!!
[03:48] <usser> rraj_be, -subsitute programname with the name you want your program to be known
[03:49] <rraj_be> it shud be added along with compile line to compile any SDL file
[03:49] <rraj_be> yeah
[03:49] <Sierradump> I haven't enabled compiz -- does it come pre-enabled???
[03:49] <rraj_be> i done that and named it as raj usser
[03:49] <mouseboyx> mercoutio22, dont update?, not sure what to tell you, can you do a fresh isntall
[03:49] <usser> rraj_be, right so install section would be
[03:50] <usser> rraj_be, install: mv raj /usr/local/bin
[03:50] <rraj_be> how to make "MAKE " file now usser
[03:50] <mrwes> Sierradump, no, but you can check it System | Preference | Appearance
[03:50] <rraj_be> usser:  raj@raj-desktop:~/Documents/PROJECT/sdl/sdl$ install: mv raj /usr/local/bin
[03:50] <rraj_be> bash: install:: command not found
[03:50] <maple1> does anyone else use stimulants to work on linux?
[03:50] <mercutio22> mouseboyx: I wan t to fix it without resorting to a clean install, I don' t want to loose stuff. Its all here.
[03:50] <mrwes> Visual Effects tab
[03:51] <Alastair> compiz was enabled by default on my pc and my laptop (nvidia/intel cards)
[03:51] <usser> rraj_be, now you should be putting all that into a file called Makefile in the same directory as your program
[03:51] <mrwes> Sierradump, reason why I ask the title bar missing is usually a problem with Compiz and visual effects
[03:51] <rraj_be> i am getting eerror ads install:: command not found usser  . . . .what to do
[03:51] <Sierradump> mrwes:  System|Preference|appearance -- I just have the "human" theme turned on?
[03:52] <mouseboyx> ok, mercutio22 when you boot goto the grub menu, and edit the ubuntu line, remove splash from the line and find the exact error
[03:52] <Sierradump> mrwes, where would the compiz setting show up there?
[03:52] <Alastair> go on the last tab, visual effects or something like that
[03:52] <usser> rraj_be, create a new file called Makefile in the directory where your program is
[03:52] <rraj_be> ok done
[03:52] <usser> rraj_be, and add these lines all:  gcc raj.c -o programname -lSDL_mixer
[03:52] <rraj_be> os Makefile.txt
[03:53] <mrwes> Sierradump, System | Preferences | Appearance | Visual Effects tab....what is it set to?
[03:53] <usser> rraj_be, install: mv raj /usr/local/bin
[03:53] <rraj_be> is it to be a text file.??
[03:53] <Sierradump> mrwes:  when I hover the mouse over the minimize/maximize/close window buttons - it will disappear/flicker if it is working, or if it isn't working it will come back to life!
[03:53] <usser> rraj_be, substitute programname with raj
[03:53] <rraj_be> usser:
[03:53] <usser> rraj_be, in the first line
[03:53] <Sierradump> Mine is set to "normal"
[03:53] <mrwes> ahh... so it's on
[03:53] <Sierradump> mrwes:  mine is set to "normal" the middle setting.
[03:54] <mercutio22> mouseboyx: it says something about the kernel not being able to sync - and theres an error message saying something like /init line 190 and the UUID which is probably wrong in menu.lst and fstab
[03:54] <Sierradump> Mrwes:  OHHHH that is "compiz" ???  I didn't know because it didn't say "compiz"  --->  what can I set it to ?
[03:54] <rraj_be> ok done >  . . .
[03:54] <rraj_be> usser:
[03:54] <Alastair> i have the same disappearing/flickering problems on the nvidia card
[03:55] <snuitje> Sierradump: yep, that sounds familiar, there's probably a bug on it in launchpad you could subscribe to it or help test proposed updates if any
[03:55] <Toaster`> Evening all.  How does one move a private GPG signature from one computer to another?
[03:55] <rraj_be> usser:  is make file shud be a text file with .txt extension
[03:55] <MrCollins> mrwes, I saw that forum post, no joy. I tried apt-get install adobe-flashplugin but it says ' Couldn't find package adobe-flashplugin'
[03:55] <Sierradump> Alastair:  are you using the nVidia 177 drivers?  Which graphics card do you have?  I have integrated nVidia Geforce GO 6150
[03:55] <Doonz> hey Guys need some help with mdadm
[03:55] <usser> rraj_be, no just a file name "Makefile" retain the case, M should be capital
[03:56] <rraj_be> ok
[03:56] <rraj_be> its done
[03:56] <ejer> !flash | MrCollins
[03:56] <snuitje> Sierradump: it happens with intel integrated graphics as well, has to be a compiz bug
[03:56] <\Kira> When I play world of warcraft the graphics look funny, the game operators recommended taking a look into my video drivers. I am using a Intel 865 chipset, with the driver i810. Any recommendations?
[03:56] <usser> rraj_be, did u put the lines i pasted?
[03:56] <Doonz> I have a raid 5 array that is from my old system (thing is dead) ive moved the drives and the raid card onto the new system
[03:56] <LordKagar> Anyone a doctor here....for the last year ive had this thing in my nose...feels really smooth kind of but it hurts when I touch it at all --and it seems to come back go away the ncome back again
[03:56] <Alastair> 177/7950GT
[03:56] <\Kira> !restriced
[03:56] <Doonz> How do i rebuild the array without destroying the data on it
[03:56] <Sierradump> snuitje:  I will check it out... I don't want to really  mess with it at this point as I am getting ready to take a trip and just need a stable laptop.
[03:56] <\Kira> !restricted
[03:56] <snuitje> \Kira: get a better card, like a supported ATi or nVidia
[03:56] <ms_exodus> snuitje, this is a little off topic but I was curious about LTSP because I'm configuring LMCE with 3 diskless md's and I think LMCE can handle the netboot
[03:57] <ejer> !smoothnose | LordKagar
[03:57] <rraj_be> yesh
[03:57] <\Kira> snuitje: I cant at the momment, im working on it, though
[03:57] <Alastair> i don't have this problem with the laptop tho...
[03:57] <LordKagar> ejerL it might be a wart
[03:57] <LordKagar> but idk what it is
[03:57] <LordKagar> hurts though
[03:57] <snuitje> Sierradump: disable it when you try to do work then, thats pretty safe
[03:57] <rraj_be> in this orde
[03:57] <rraj_be> gcc raj.c -o sdl -lSDL_mixer
[03:57] <rraj_be> install: mv raj /usr/local/bin
[03:57] <rraj_be> is it right usser
[03:57] <FloodBot2> rraj_be: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:57] <LordKagar> and it goes awy comes back
[03:57] <LordKagar> must flare up or something
[03:57] <Sierradump> mrwes:  I set visual effects to "none" and it appears to have fixed it!
[03:57] <FloodBot2> LordKagar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:57] <LordKagar> and deflare
[03:58] <snuitje> \Kira: intel integrated graphics isn't really made for WoW, kewl that it's running to some extend at all though
[03:58] <usser> rraj_be, all: gcc raj.c -o raj -lSDL_mixer
[03:58] <dmulholland> hey, im running three ubuntu machines at home through a router network, how can i get it that I can use ssh username@hostname instead of ssh username@IPaddress? I'm assuming I'm missing something in the network hostname or something?
[03:58] <usser> rraj_be, install: mv raj /usr/local/bin
[03:58] <\Kira> snuitje: I see, I guess I have to go to future shop :(
[03:58] <LordKagar> KiraL only noobs go to future shop
[03:59] <snuitje> \Kira: im trying to get secondlife but that's pretty demanding as well :'/
[03:59] <Kira> LordKagar: Tiger Direct or newegg ftw?
[03:59] <rraj_be> is it ok  no in this order
[03:59] <markl_> how easy is it to use software raid on the Ubuntu root/boot partitions?
[03:59] <rraj_be> gcc raj.c -o sdl -lSDL_mixer
[03:59] <rraj_be> all: gcc raj.c -o raj -lSDL_mixer
[03:59] <rraj_be> install: mv raj /usr/local/bin
[03:59] <markl_> does the installer handle it easily?
[03:59] <ejer> dmulholland: you need a dns server to tell the machines what hostname has which IP, your router may be able to, or you could add the IPs to your hosts file
[04:00] <usser> rraj_be, now remove the very first one :)
[04:00] <usser> rraj_be, and it will be fine
[04:00] <bruce_> when i open synaptic package manager i get this error- 'dkpg was interrupted- manually enter 'dpkg --configure -a'; how do i do that?
[04:00] <ejer> markl_: use the alternate cd, it is handled just like in debian
[04:00] <rraj_be> which line usser
[04:00] <\Kira> snuitje: I was thinking about trying second life, but wow seemed more popular around my school.
[04:00] <|d|> i think my gdm has a problem restoring a session
[04:00] <mrwes> Sierradump, check this thread, post #13 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=975596&page=2
[04:00] <usser> rraj_be, first one that u pasted
[04:00] <usser> rraj_be, this one gcc raj.c -o sdl -lSDL_mixer
[04:00] <rraj_be> ok
[04:00] <rraj_be> done usser
[04:00] <ejer> bruce_: applications>accessories>terminal, in there type: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:00] <snuitje> \Kira: yeah WoW gets all the attention, but secondlife lets you build things, and it's a single world so you dont need to request transfers
[04:01] <usser> rraj_be, sweet paste what u got?
[04:01] <snuitje> \Kira: plus it's free software ^-^
[04:01] <rraj_be> this is in my Makeifle "all: gcc raj.c -o raj -lSDL_mixer
[04:01] <MrCollins> ejer, I have followed that tutorial.... any other help?
[04:01] <rraj_be> install: mv raj /usr/local/bin"
[04:01] <rraj_be> nowe what to do
[04:01] <ejer> what is the problem MrCollins
[04:02] <Doonz> !installing ssh server
[04:02] <\Kira> snuitje: yes, I was really interested in the whole idea of how second life has its own real life econamy
[04:02] <usser> rraj_be, right now install checkinstall by running this command: sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[04:02] <snuitje> \Kira: yeah thats the WORST part of 2l
[04:02] <snuitje> \Kira: getting offtopic tho
[04:02] <MrCollins> ejer I have no sound in firefox, fresh install of 8.10, I downloaded all updates, ran apt-get flashplugin-nonfree and flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[04:02] <mrwes> Sierradump, yah that'll do it too, I don't use visual effects
[04:02] <|d|> !gdm
[04:02] <MrCollins> ejer no sound from flash like youtube.com
[04:02] <\Kira> snuitje: yeah, thanks for the recommendation
[04:02] <|d|> i think my gdm has a problem restoring a session
[04:02] <bruce_> ejer: thanks
[04:03] <rraj_be> installing usser
[04:03] <Toaster`> Evening all.  How does one move a private GPG signature from one computer to another?
[04:03] <Sierradump> mrwes:  thanks for the link - looks promising...
[04:03] <ejer> MrCollins: you have sound in other apps?
[04:03] <usser> Toaster`, export it and just copy using some secure means
[04:03] <rraj_be> installes usser
[04:03] <usser> Toaster`, like a usb stick'
[04:04] <MrCollins> ejer, yes I have sound in totem. I can play and hear mp3s
[04:04] <rraj_be> usser:  installed that checkinstall
[04:04] <usser> rraj_be, right now in the directory where makefile is run this: make
[04:04] <|d|> i think my gdm has a problem restoring a session,because wen i restart after not closing all gui programs it hangs and slows the system down drastically
[04:04] <rraj_be> ok
[04:05] <ejer> MrCollins: in your sound setting is everything on autodetect
[04:05] <rraj_be> raj@raj-desktop:~/Documents/PROJECT/sdl/sdl$ make
[04:05] <rraj_be> Makefile:1: *** missing separator.  Stop.
[04:05] <usser> rraj_be, did it compile? do u have a file named raj with no extension in that directory
[04:05] <rraj_be> yes
[04:05] <forcumang> omg
[04:05] <usser> rraj_be, alright now in that same directory run: checkinstall
[04:05] <MrCollins> ejer, no because I have an audigy card and a onboard card which is disabled in the bios but shows up in linux for some reason, btw I am also using digital out *not optical*
[04:06] <forcumang> i just accidently removed my /home/user/
[04:06] <Doonz> can someone help me turn on the ssh server on my ubuntu 8.04lts desktop
[04:06] <forcumang> is there a way to recover it?
[04:06] <MrCollins> ejer audigy2 btw
[04:06] <forcumang> meaning i just cleared out the directory
[04:06] <usser> rraj_be, answer some questions, ie description change the name of the future .deb file etc
[04:06] <rraj_be> what
[04:06] <usser> rraj_be, sudo checkinstall, sorry
[04:06] <mikematis> Doonz: I'll help you
[04:06] <forcumang> anyone? =S
[04:06] <Doonz> thnx
[04:06] <snuitje> forcumang: mmmmaayyyyybe with e2undel
[04:06] <usser> rraj_be, run sudo checkinstall from the directory where your .c file is
[04:06] <rraj_be> ok
[04:07] <rraj_be> its asking for description
[04:07] <snuitje> forcumang: but i'd recommend using a forensic analysis livecd
[04:07] <ejer> MrCollins: little non-standard, but should of course work, I use audigy2 with disabled onboard sound... I would try all the dif settings in sound settings, but I would google for bugs too
[04:07] <snuitje> forcumang: and never even boot from that ubuntu install to prevent further 'damage'
[04:07] <sqrtof-1> how do you put a bcm43xx chip in ad-hoc mode?
[04:07] <MrCollins> ejer google for bugs such as?
[04:07] <usser> rraj_be, its a description write whatever you want
[04:07] <mikematis> Doonz: Open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[04:07] <MrCollins> ejer ubuntu + audigy 2
[04:07] <rraj_be> yeah
[04:08] <rraj_be> all i done in that
[04:08] <rraj_be> it ended with bye
[04:08] <Toaster`> usser: Thanks
[04:08] <Doonz> ahh ok so that would be the package i needed
[04:08] <rraj_be> Installing with make install...
[04:08] <forcumang> snuitje =>
[04:08] <rraj_be> [04:08] <rraj_be> Makefile:1: *** missing separator.  Stop.
[04:08] <rraj_be> ****  Installation failed. Aborting package creation.
[04:08] <forcumang> my filesystem wasnt deleted
[04:08] <snuitje> sqrtof-1: sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode adhoc ?
[04:08] <FloodBot2> rraj_be: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:08] <rraj_be> Cleaning up...OK
[04:08] <forcumang> just the contents of my home folder
[04:08] <rraj_be> Bye.
[04:08] <rraj_be> raj@raj-desktop:~/Documents/PROJECT/sdl/sdl$
[04:08] <usser> rraj_be, dont paste here u'll get banned
[04:08] <usser> !pastebin | rraj_be
[04:08] <bazhang> rraj_be, use paste.ubuntu.com
[04:08] <sqrtof-1> pastebin!
[04:08] <bazhang> rraj_be, not here
[04:08] <snuitje> forcumang: yeah thats still pretty severe
[04:09] <forcumang> damnit
[04:09] <sqrtof-1> poor guy.
[04:09] <Sierradump> Mrwes:  Can you help me out??? I need to know how to undo a sudo apt-get install!!!  I was trying to install SKYPE so I added the mediabuntu repos and then typed "sudo apt-get install skype" but I kind of jumped the gun.  I was supposed to type:  sudo apt-get install ia32-libs lib32asound2 libasound2-plugins; wget -N boundlesssupremacy.com/Cappy/getlibs/getlibs-all.deb; wget -O skype-install.deb http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-ubuntu-amd64; sudo dp
[04:09] <Sierradump> kg -i skype-install.deb; sudo dpkg -i getlibs-all.deb; sudo getlibs -p libqtcore4 libqtgui4 bluez-alsa
[04:09] <mikematis> Doonz: Yep. The config file is /etc/ssh/sshd.config (i think)
[04:09] <rraj_be> ok usser
[04:09] <sqrtof-1> apt-get remove
[04:09] <forcumang> um
[04:09] <forcumang> ok
[04:09] <Doonz> i just wasnt sure what package i needed
[04:09] <forcumang> im gonna just reinstall, i guess
[04:09] <forcumang> fucking lame
[04:09] <FloodBot2> forcumang: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:09] <sqrtof-1> Sierradump: apt-get remove; apt-get autoclean
[04:09] <rraj_be> its giving as "Makefile:1: *** missing separator.  Stop."
[04:09] <rraj_be> whats wrong usser
[04:10] <sqrtof-1> How do you put a bcm43xx in ad-hoc mode?
[04:10] <Sierradump> sqrtof-1  is that in a particular order:  i.e. apt-get remove skype.   THEN  apt-get autoclean skype ???  thanks.
[04:10] <rraj_be> usser:
[04:10] <mercutio22> ok, cool I solved it. Now how can I prevent that from happening again? I had to boot into a live cd, correct the wrong hard drive entries in menu.lst, replace UUIDs with my /dev/sda5 partition and reinstall grub and
[04:10] <snuitje> sqrtof-1: sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode adhoc doesnt work?
[04:10] <usser> rraj_be, try putting stuff that goes after all: and install: on separate lines
[04:10] <|d|> i think my gdm has a problem restoring a session,because wen i restart after not closing all gui programs it hangs and slows the system down drastically
[04:10] <LoRdRapTuReZ> hi there
[04:10] <rraj_be> yeah . . .its in seperate line
[04:10] <LoRdRapTuReZ> i need a help
[04:10] <ejer> MrCollins: like this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/291371 - it looks like a pulseaudio issue, try making sure you have pule selected, and go look again to make sure you disabled sound right in bios
[04:10] <forcumang> oh wow
[04:10] <rraj_be> is this correcr "all: gcc raj.c -o raj -lSDL_mixer"
[04:11] <mikematis> forcumang: what happened?
[04:11] <usser> rraj_be, http://pastebin.com/f1717767f
[04:11] <usser> rraj_be, like this
[04:11] <snuitje> !ask | LoRdRapTuReZ
[04:11] <mercutio22> I meant this question for anyone who knows anything of matters of booting
[04:11] <rraj_be> k
[04:11] <tim> whats the "terminal-server-app" client in gnome called
[04:11] <tim> i got some nasty bug in it
[04:11] <sqrtof-1> just paste this into a shell: sudo apt-get remove skype && sudo apt-get autoclean.
[04:11] <tim> need to reconfigure it, possible?
[04:11] <forcumang> mikematis => there was for some reason an accidently folder in my home folder named ~, so i rm -r ~ (idiotically), and it deleted teh home folder contents
[04:11] <tim> ubuntu 8.10
[04:11] <MrCollins> ejer I do have the soundcard disabled in bios, I just checked
[04:11] <forcumang> lol
[04:11] <sqrtof-1> tim:
[04:12] <LoRdRapTuReZ> ! i have 2 linux pc in the same network, how to copy a files from a linux pc to another linux pc. what is the commands
[04:12] <forcumang> im gonna get a bong hit before this crap, ffs
[04:12] <snuitje> LoRdRapTuReZ: do you have ssh set up?
[04:12] <bazhang> forcumang, please keep it family friendly
[04:12] <tim> iam ssh tunneling port xx to my server where vnc is running
[04:12] <snuitje> LoRdRapTuReZ: or are they running samba?
[04:12] <ejer> MrCollins: looks like pulse, and if ubuntu really sees your second card, you could have it being loaded, so you need to look into alsa settings to force one to be first
[04:12] <usser> rraj_be, do: make
[04:12] <tim> beside that i connected to some other ip
[04:12] <LoRdRapTuReZ> how to set up ssh
[04:12] <LoRdRapTuReZ> i new to linux
[04:12] <snuitje> !ssh
[04:12] <usser> rraj_be, and: sudo checkinstall
[04:12] <rraj_be> yeeah
[04:12] <rraj_be>  a min plz
[04:13] <Sierradump> sqrtof-1:  I did the apt-get remove skype command and it said after removing 14mb or space would be freed, but the install said 141mb of space was used??? what happened to my other 127mb of space!!!!
[04:13] <MrCollins> ejer, where is alsa settings in System -> Prefs -> Sound  ??
[04:13] <tim> now when using connection to xx it displays the ip i connected before and freezes whole window manager
[04:13] <snuitje> LoRdRapTuReZ: basically install the openssh-server package
[04:13] <mikematis> forcumang: Woah. not good. Not sure if I can help you, but the actual data *should* still be on the drive, just the references to those files are gone.
[04:13] <tim> = alt+F2 = kill vnc process
[04:13] <tim> so any way to reconfigure that "terminal-server-client" application?
[04:13] <rraj_be> the same error use
[04:13] <snuitje> LoRdRapTuReZ: theres another way, just right click a folder in nautilus, choose share, and it'll configure things for you
[04:14] <rraj_be> Makefile:1: *** missing separator.  Stop. usser
[04:14] <MrCollins> ejer how do I stop the other card from being detected/used?
[04:14] <|d|> i think my gdm has a problem restoring a session,because wen i restart after not closing all gui programs it hangs and slows the system down drastically
[04:14] <snuitje> LoRdRapTuReZ: then browse the network on the other computer to find the share you just made
[04:14] <mikematis> forcumang: Try using a live cd with testdisk on it to recover them. Can anone else help with this?
[04:14] <LoRdRapTuReZ> ok
[04:14] <ejer> MrCollins: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/FAQ#Can_I_use_several_applications_at_once_without_the_second_one_blocking.3F and elsewhere on that page
[04:14] <LoRdRapTuReZ> let me try it
[04:14] <ejer> but i doubt it is happening MrCollins
[04:14] <sunapi386> tell me what happens when u rm -rf
[04:14] <sunapi386> rm / -rf
[04:14] <usser> rraj_be, hm can you pastebin it?
[04:14] <ejer> you delete all files on your harddrive FOREVER sunapi386
[04:14] <LoRdRapTuReZ> but 1 pc is running ubuntu 8.04 and another 1 is running on ubuntu 6.06
[04:14] <Doonz> Anyone got a second to answer a few mdadm questions?
[04:14] <bazhang> sunapi386, dont paste that here
[04:15] <rraj_be> sure
[04:15] <snuitje> rm -rf: ReMoves Real Fast :)
[04:15] <sunapi386> i read somewhere that ubuntu implented that rm / -rf to stop working..
[04:15] <ejer> do people here install -propsed updates?
[04:15] <snuitje> orly :D
[04:16] <bazhang> snuitje, sunapi386 please stop
[04:16] <Doonz> OK i have a raid 5 array that was built on another ubuntu box that died a tragic death. Ive moved all my hard drives and the raid card onto this new ubuntu box. how do i go about rebuilding that array without loosing all the data on it?
[04:16] <snuitje> ejer: mostly to test out new fixes
[04:16] <sunapi386> bazhang; whats the problem?
[04:16] <snuitje> bazhang: i cant say orly?
[04:16] <ejer> I have just turned the on now, guess I am testing :)
[04:16] <markl_> Doonz: what do you mean by "died a tragic death"
[04:16] <bazhang> sunapi386, it is offtopic
[04:16] <MrCollins> ejer, can I post to you my 'aplay -l' list somewhere, where you can have a look at it?
[04:16] <LoRdRapTuReZ> !in windowsxp, we can enable the remote desktop, but how about ubuntu 8.04
[04:16] <Doonz> i broke the mobo
[04:16] <ejer> yes MrCollins
[04:16] <digitalvaldosta> hello. I was wondering how to get my terminal transparent so that I can see the other windows through it. I had it working on my other computer but forgot how to set it up. I would like to set it up on my fresh install of 8.10.
[04:16] <Doonz> :/
[04:16] <bazhang> sunapi386, and that is a dangerous command dont repeat here
[04:16] <rraj_be> http://pastebin.com/m5f8acf41 usser
[04:17] <mikematis> sunapi386: don't be an ass. This a place to solve probs. not cause them
[04:17] <MrCollins> ejer, where do I post the 'spam'?
[04:17] <markl_> Doonz: ah well it should generally be as easy as moving the drives and turning the machine on
[04:17] <ejer> !paste | MrCollins
[04:17] <\Kira> I would like to install gnome on my machine, but I dont want it to start on boot. What is the command to install it, and how can I stop it from auto-starting. This is going to be a server for a game and I need to use a GUI to configure some stuff, but in the future I dont want it to cause the server to slow when I dont need it too.
[04:17] <digitalvaldosta> I know how to get so that I can see the desktop through it. This is not what I need. I want to see the other windows.
[04:17] <markl_> your video may not work the same but generally it will work
[04:17] <Doonz> it was the old os drive that fell onto the mobo and broke both
[04:17] <markl_> Doonz: ah that changes things
[04:17] <snuitje> \Kira: you may want to try sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[04:18] <mikematis> Doonz: is this a scratch built box, or is it from a sysint like dell?
[04:18] <markl_> Doonz: you weren't booting from the raid card?
[04:18] <snuitje> \Kira: that'll prevent gdm, the gnome display manager from starting up on boot
[04:18] <Doonz> markl no
[04:18] <LoRdRapTuReZ> !in windowsxp, we can enable the remote desktop, but how about ubuntu 8.04
[04:18] <MrCollins> ejer, http://paste.ubuntu.com/77609/
[04:18] <Doonz> mikematis custom built
[04:18] <markl_> Doonz: in that case i would reinstall with just a single drive, and then connect the raid card
[04:18] <\Kira> snuitje: but would that stop X server, as well?
[04:18] <Doonz> wich ive done
[04:18] <snuitje> \Kira: correct
[04:18] <usser> rraj_be, try this http://pastebin.com/m1f7c3b59
[04:18] <Doonz> now my question is howdo i rebuild the array
[04:18] <rraj_be> ok
[04:18] <snuitje> \Kira: you can also leave gdm running and not log in until you need to use the gnome desktop
[04:18] <bazhang> LoRdRapTuReZ, no need to use ! for your questions
[04:19] <LoRdRapTuReZ> ok
[04:19] <snuitje> \Kira: that way only X and a greeter runs
[04:19] <markl_> Doonz: you want to reformat the disks?
[04:19] <Doonz> no
[04:19] <snuitje> \Kira: not the full blown desktop
[04:19] <markl_> Doonz: or save your old data on the raid
[04:19] <usser> rraj_be, also make sure make is installed: sudo apt-get install make
[04:19] <dmulholland> hey, im trying to share folders between two ubuntu machinces but the default way now seems to be windows shares through samba? is it not better to use a unix file share?
[04:19] <Doonz> save the data
[04:19] <uhhhhh> anyone have the hp mini 1000 here?
[04:19] <hmw_lfs> ohmy
[04:19] <markl_> Doonz: does the system detect the partitions when you boot up?
[04:19] <\Kira> snuitje: I'd rather go with the first solution, and do you have any idea how to start it once I want to? And what about installing gnome?
[04:19] <hmw_lfs> radeon driver docs are wrong...
[04:19] <Doonz> yep
[04:19] <markl_> Doonz: for example, cat /proc/partitions
[04:19] <hmw_lfs> at least in one little detail
[04:19] <markl_> Doonz: ok can you mount them?
[04:20] <Sierradump> Could someone have a look at my skype install here:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/77610/   I can't tell what happened???  It looks like it hit an error on line 44???
[04:20] <ejer> MrCollins: in sound settings your devices should be set to pulseaudio
[04:20] <rraj_be> what shud i change in make file usser  . . .its same as old
[04:20] <rraj_be> usser:
[04:20] <markl_> Doonz: add them to fstab and you should probably be done
[04:20] <LoRdRapTuReZ> in windowsxp, we can enable the remote desktop, but how about ubuntu 8.04??? is the any option like that
[04:20] <hmw_lfs> and my vid runs coool now
[04:20] <snuitje> \Kira: basically 2 methods: start gnome or log in and start an X session
[04:20] <Doonz> oh i see wich partition you meant
[04:20] <MrCollins> ejer, how do I do so ejer? How do I change them to pulse?
[04:20] <Doonz> No there is no md0
[04:20] <snuitje> \Kira: invoke-rc.d gdm start
[04:20] <usser> rraj_be, http://pastebin.com/m1f7c3b59
[04:20] <usser> rraj_be, its not the same
[04:20] <Doonz> just sd[bcdef}
[04:20] <\Kira> snuitje: I cant just type: startx?
[04:20] <snuitje> \Kira: actually sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start yes you can also log in and type startx
[04:21] <ejer> dropdown menus MrCollins system>prefs>sound
[04:21] <snuitje> \Kira: that'll get you an X session right away
[04:21] <\Kira> snuitje: okay, thanks. I know there is a distro that doesnt have startx...
[04:21] <MrCollins> ejer, so just change it all to pulseaudio?
[04:21] <snuitje> \Kira: if not startx then xinit :P
[04:21] <Sierradump> snuitje:  can you have a look here and tell me why skype isn't showing up for me:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/77610/
[04:21] <\Kira> snuitje: by get a X session right away, do you mean go to the login page?
[04:21] <snuitje> Sierradump: sorry, i dont support skype, never used it either
[04:21] <Doonz> markl_ would this be the command to run mdadm -A /dev/md0 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1
[04:22] <ejer> MrCollins: you will have to just try it, I don't know what the issue is, so you should try all the settings there
[04:22] <mikematis> doonz: so you lost the mob and one of the drives in the array. Was the raid adapter a seperate card, or part of the mobo? Raid controllers have a pre-boot interface, and some can rebuild an aray, if you can set it up the way it was before.
[04:22] <markl_> Doonz: md0 is software raid isn't it
[04:22] <Doonz> yes
[04:22] <rraj_be> really sorry usser  same error as
[04:22] <Doonz> sorry should have specified
[04:22] <snuitje> \Kira: no, startx runs a gnome session or whatever the default happens to be set to
[04:22] <usser> rraj_be, weird
[04:22] <rraj_be> Makefile:1: *** missing separator.  Stop.
[04:23] <Ninina> Well I'm still having trouble with boarder artifacts with 8.10, some upgrade
[04:23] <rraj_be> really i am too
[04:23] <markl_> Doonz: when i have hardware raid i usually just mount sda1, sdb2, whatever
[04:23] <Doonz> this is a raid 5 array with 5x500gb drives that stored data no os
[04:23] <rraj_be> i copied exact pastebin
[04:23] <\Kira> snuitje: okay, will typing "sudo apt-get install gnome" be sufficient for installing gnome?
[04:23] <usser> rraj_be, sudo apt-get install make
[04:23] <markl_> Doonz: i use 3ware
[04:23] <Doonz> markl_l yeah my new install is on a 3ware raid card
[04:23] <markl_> or perc
[04:23] <snuitje> \Kira: that's not recommended for ubuntu
[04:23] <rraj_be> could yu give it in new paste bin . . .just exactly how a make content shud look please
[04:23] <\Kira> snuitje: what is recommended?
[04:23] <rraj_be> make is installed
[04:23] <markl_> Doonz: oh this isn't the same raid setup as before?
[04:23] <rraj_be> could yu give it in new paste bin . . .just exactly how a make content shud look please usser
[04:23] <Doonz> ok let me start over
[04:23] <bazhang> Ninina, which window decorator
[04:24] <markl_> Doonz: i thought you were moving your raid card & drives over to a new box
[04:24] <snuitje> \Kira: depending on your needs, you can install ubuntu-desktop or just parts of it
[04:24] <markl_> Doonz: but i could have missed somethintg
[04:24] <Ninina> bazhang: Which ever is the default?
[04:24] <Doonz> ok let me rephrase everything to keep it simple
[04:24] <snuitje> \Kira: apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop | less
[04:24] <bazhang> Ninina, this only happens with compiz?
[04:24] <usser> rraj_be, yea that was it
[04:24] <uhhhhh> anyone get the sound working on the hp mini 1000
[04:24] <uhhhhh> i think its the AD1984HD
[04:25] <Ninina> bazhang: yeah
[04:25] <\Kira> snuitje: is that the command to run? Will that install only gnome, or would kde and suh come with it. I only really need gnome as disk space is a issue
[04:25] <bazhang> uhhhhh, check in lspci
[04:25] <usser> rraj_be, http://pastebin.com/m2a1671b
[04:25] <snuitje> \Kira: that gets you a list of whats in ubuntu, for instance, if you install xserver-xorg gnome-panel nautilus metacity gnome-session you get a very minimal gnome
[04:25] <bazhang> Ninina, emerald or the gtk window decorator
[04:25] <rraj_be> ok
[04:25] <uhhhhh> i dont have it yet, i want to know if it works 100% before i purchase it
[04:25] <rraj_be> but getting wrong
[04:25] <Doonz> my os drive crashed. It had no raid what so ever. I was running a software raid set up on 5 drives that were only data and no os on it. i replace the os drive. and reinstalled ubuntu on it. how would i go about bringing back up online that array without loosing the data on it
[04:25] <Ninina> bazhang: I tried reinstalling, changing nvidia drivers, everything
[04:25] <bazhang> Ninina, which video card
[04:25] <snuitje> \Kira: apt-cache doesn't install anything
[04:25] <Ninina> bazhang: but it worked fine with 8.04
[04:25] <\Kira> snuitje: okay, I think I have it all figured out. Thanks :)
[04:26] <Ninina> bazhang: Geforce 7950gt
[04:26] <cakey> i accidentally the video card... what should i do
[04:26] <bazhang> Ninina, and have you asked in #compiz-fusion yet?
[04:26] <rraj_be> http://pastebin.com/m2b434c99
[04:26] <markl_> Doonz: i doubt it is possible to migrate from software raid to a 3ware hardware raid
[04:26] <Doonz> ignore everything about the 3ware
[04:26] <Ninina> bazhang: No, I thought it was a ubuntu problem
[04:27] <Doonz> my os drive crashed. It had no raid what so ever. I was running a software raid set up on 5 drives that were only data and no os on it. i replace the os drive. and reinstalled ubuntu on it. how would i go about bringing back up online that array without loosing the data on it
[04:27] <Ninina> bazhang: I mean I literally haven't installed a single program other then the OS and the drivers
[04:27] <Doonz> new scenario
[04:27] <Doonz> :)~
[04:27] <usser> rraj_be, looks fine, do u have make installed at all? what does "sudo apt-get install make" say?
[04:27] <bazhang> Ninina, best bet is to ask the compiz experts in that channel
[04:27] <Ninina> bazhang: I'll try
[04:27] <Formode> Hello, could anyone help me get sound working? It was working about, 2 days ago. I am trying to get ETQW sound to work, mainly.
[04:27] <bazhang> cakey, you accidentally what the video card
[04:28] <MrCollins> ejer, now that I have all my stuff set to pulseaudio, I cant hear things in totem now.
[04:28] <Shoopuf> Is there an easy LAMP/XAMPP install for Ubuntu? Instead of downloading each one manually and manually configuring firewalls in text files and opening port 80s and such? :P
[04:28] <markl_> Doonz: ah ok, the 3ware should give you each drive as a separate /dev/sd? device so you should be able to recombine the raid.  i am not an expert at the vg, pv etc commands though
[04:28] <snuitje> \Kira: things to get: alacarte eog evince file-roller gconf-editor gedit gnome-applets gnome-control-center gnome-icon-theme gnome-menus gnome-panel gnome-session gnome-system-monitor gnome-system-tools gnome-terminal gnome-themes gnome-utils gnome-volume-manager hal metacity nautilus
[04:28] <ejer> Doonz: http://man-wiki.net/index.php/8:mdadm#ASSEMBLE_MODE
[04:28] <cakey> the video card
[04:28] <Sierradump> Can anyone help me with SKYPE?  I am getting a " problem with audio playback " message???
[04:28] <bazhang> cakey, please give us a complete sentence
[04:28] <ejer> Shoopuf: sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[04:28] <cakey> i accidentally the video card
[04:28] <mikematis> Shoopuf: Download the ubuntu server iso and install that. there's
[04:28] <bazhang> cakey, that makes no sense
[04:28] <\Kira> snuitje: thats what I would need? would I still have to run the command you mentioned earlier to stop it from starting at boot?
[04:28] <Hades> hi
[04:29] <Hades> all
[04:29] <usser> rraj_be, it works fine with exact same contents
[04:29] <mikematis> Shoopuf: Download the ubuntu server iso and install that. there's an installation option for LAMP.
[04:29] <snuitje> \Kira: notification-daemon pulseaudio seahorse synaptic unzip update-manager update-notifier xorg xterm yelp zenity zip
[04:29] <rraj_be> a min plz phone
[04:29] <snuitje> \Kira: that's a fairly minimal selection
[04:29] <Shoopuf> mikematis: Darn, I am running Ubuntu on a shared host, and they just offer a basic bare-bones Ubuntu install
[04:30] <\Kira> snuitje: yeah, I was just looking at the output of that command, thats all the stuff under "depends", right?
[04:30] <snuitje> \Kira: if you want to get even less, install with --no-install-recommends
[04:30] <Doonz> server@sserver1:~$ sudo mdadm --assemble --scan
[04:30] <Doonz> mdadm: Cannot open /dev/sdb1: No such device or address
[04:30] <Doonz> hmm
[04:30] <snuitje> \Kira: not everything
[04:30] <\Kira> snuitje: okay, I think I should be good with what you listed, I only need to do a couple things.
[04:30] <rraj_be> usser:  its giving like this "make: *** No rule to make target `gcc', needed by `all'.  Stop."
[04:31] <uhhhhh> rraj_be, try make clean
[04:31] <rraj_be> uhhhhh:  make: *** No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.
[04:31] <uhhhhh> hmmmm
[04:31] <usser> rraj_be, does it work without makefile? ie gcc raj.c -o raj
[04:31] <\Kira> snuitje: if you dont mind, do you know anything about forwarding the X server to another computer (I cant remember what the term is called). Such as I SSH into my server from somewere else, then get it to show gnome from my server at somewere else.
[04:31] <rraj_be> yes
[04:32] <usser> uhhhhh, trying to write a simple makefile here
[04:32] <rraj_be> it works fine
[04:32] <usser> rraj_be, something is wrong
[04:32] <uhhhhh> yeah
[04:32] <mikematis> Shoopuf: type "sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server"
[04:32] <rraj_be> thats what usser
[04:32] <uhhhhh> the file must be wrong
[04:32] <rraj_be> i am too trying to find that
[04:32] <snuitje> \Kira: there are several ways to do it
[04:32] <uhhhhh> is the tabbing correct?
[04:32] <usser> rraj_be, your makefile is messed up
[04:32] <snuitje> \Kira: one of them is vino
[04:32] <rraj_be> k
[04:32] <MrCollins> ejer, I have an idea, how can I tell my flash player to tell it specifically to send the sound through the digital out? I believe it is being played on the analog side, I will test it now.....
[04:32] <snuitje> \Kira: it's a vnc server for gnome
[04:32] <rraj_be> all: gcc raj.c -o sdl -lSDL_mixer
[04:32] <rraj_be> install: mv raj /usr/local/bin
[04:32] <snuitje> \Kira: add it to your list
[04:33] <nik> hello a quick question, I can not start up kde gui by typing startx at the konsole. It says user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. What can I do to run it?
[04:33] <rraj_be> this is my make file contents
[04:33] <usser> rraj_be, its tabbing
[04:33] <rraj_be> tabbing?
[04:33] <rraj_be> what shud i do now?
[04:33] <usser> rraj_be,  "gcc raj.c -o sdl -lSDL_mixer" must be on a separate line
[04:33] <rraj_be> usser:
[04:34] <snuitje> \Kira: if you've enabled that, run ssh -L5900:127.0.0.1:5900 <remotehost>
[04:34] <usser> rraj_be, also one tab in front of it
[04:34] <rraj_be> now this is op
[04:34] <rraj_be> Makefile:2: *** missing separator.  Stop.
[04:34] <usser> rraj_be, yea apparently spacing matters
[04:34] <nik> anyone want to answer my question?
[04:34] <rraj_be> k
[04:34] <rraj_be> done
[04:34] <\Kira> suigeneris: okay, thanks. Out of curiosity, whats the -L5600, for?
[04:34] <rraj_be> its working usser
[04:34] <markl_> Doonz: does dmesg show all the drives?
[04:34] <usser> rraj_be, ok
[04:35] <usser> rraj_be, so do: make
[04:35] <rraj_be> raj@raj-desktop:~/Documents/PROJECT/sdl/sdl$ make
[04:35] <rraj_be> gcc raj.c -o sdl -lSDL_mixer
[04:35] <usser> rraj_be, yep got it
[04:35] <rraj_be> its op of make
[04:35] <rraj_be> yeah
[04:35] <Doonz> markl_ dmesg?
[04:35] <usser> rraj_be, sudo checkinstall
[04:35] <markl_> Doonz: run that from the command line and it will show all the kernel boot msgs
[04:35] <Doonz> oh
[04:35] <mikematis> nik: I'll try to help you
[04:35] <Doonz> yeah all the drives are there
[04:35] <rraj_be> done usser
[04:36] <xr0ckstar> happy turkey day
[04:36] <snuitje> \Kira: then, in a seperate shell, run xtightvncviewer -bgr233 -compresslevel 9 -encodings copyrect -quality 5 127.0.0.1
[04:36] <nik> mike thanks, did you get the question?
[04:36] <markl_> i wonder why it couldn't find /dev/sdb1, that sounds un-good
[04:36] <snuitje> \Kira: that's the option to tunnel a tcp port
[04:36] <snuitje> \Kira: see man ssh
[04:36] <mikematis> nik: yep. have you already installed kde? ubuntu just comes with gnome by default.
[04:36] <usser> rraj_be, well now that u answered all the questions and changed the options u wanted to change, you should have a .deb package in that same directory
[04:37] <snuitje> \Kira: -L <localport>:<host on remote side>:<port on remote side>
[04:37] <rraj_be> yeah
[04:37] <nik> i'm with debian
[04:37] <rraj_be> really thanks a lot usser i done it
[04:37] <rraj_be> now what about ./configure and all ./ . . .i have seen thiose in many innstallations
[04:37] <liljohnpenguin> hello, I am a newbie to this channel - can you point me to an overview of where to find out what this channel is used for, thank you all for your help!
[04:37] <rraj_be> is it compulsory to have those files in my package along with redame etc etc
[04:38] <bazhang> nik, debian?
[04:38] <uhhhhh> what are you trying to do rraj_be
[04:38] <nik> liljohnpenguin, search for ubuntu irc in google
[04:38] <nik> debian kde on apple
[04:38] <bazhang> nik, try #debian
[04:38] <\Kira> snuitje: sweet, I hope I can figure that out... do I have to install the vino package on the remote and locate hosts?
[04:38] <snuitje> #debian is on irc.oftc.net
[04:38] <usser> rraj_be, configure only makes sense when u have a reasonably complex applications
[04:38] <bazhang> nik, this is for ubuntu support not debian
[04:39] <Flannel> liljohnpenguin: This channel is a support channel for Ubuntu linux.  There's a chat channel at #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:39] <nik> ubuntu is derivative of debian
[04:39] <bazhang> snuitje, no #debian is on this server
[04:39] <usser> BMWracer0, he wanted to create a .deb package out of a .c file
[04:39] <snuitje> \Kira: on the server you install vino on the client, xtightvncviewer
[04:39] <Flannel> nik: While true, that's not relevant
[04:39] <BMWracer0> o
[04:39] <snuitje> bazhang: official #ubuntu is on oftc right?
[04:39] <mikematis> nik: I don't think I can help you. You might want to try the #debian channel. Now if you were using ubuntu or slackware, I could have helped you. :)
[04:39] <snuitje> bazhang: i mean #debian
[04:39] <bazhang> snuitje, nope
[04:39] <Flannel> snuitje: Official Ubuntu is here, official debian is on oftc, yes.
[04:40] <fishhooker> so i'm currently on vista, but thinking of making the switch this summer
[04:40] <nik> #debian doesn't have much apple users
[04:40] <liljohnpenguin> flannel: thanks
[04:40] <BMWracer0> im an apple user
[04:40] <BMWracer0> unfortunately
[04:40] <snuitje> hm try #elitists
[04:40] <fishhooker> i've got 3GB of RAM, should i use 32 or 64 bit ubuntu?
[04:40] <Flannel> snuitje: Please be helpful
[04:40] <nik> bmw how did you get kde running from konsole?
[04:40] <usser> fishhooker, 32bit would work just fine
[04:41] <BMWracer0> what
[04:41] <ejer> fishhooker: go for it! use 32 bit, just downlaod the regular desktop cd
[04:41] <genii-around> fishhooker: Probably 32 bit will give you less headaches at this time
[04:41] <fishhooker> ah
[04:41] <rraj_be> usser:  got loged out
[04:41] <rraj_be> just back
[04:41] <\Kira> snuitje: thanks a bunch :) thats solved alot of the server problems ive been stuck trying to figure out by myself...
[04:41] <fishhooker> what are the differences between 32 and 64?
[04:41] <snuitje> \Kira: yw
[04:41] <rraj_be> is it necessary to have configure . . .read me files and many many in a package
[04:41] <usser> rraj_be, configure only makes sense when u have a reasonably complex applications
[04:41] <fishhooker> (also, would it be worth it to upgrade to 4GB of RAM, and if so, would that change the answer to 64?)
[04:41] <rraj_be> fine
[04:41] <nik> BMW: when you logon, you run into kde konsole
[04:41] <mikematis> nik: Ubuntu and debian have different design philosophies. I could be wrong, but dosen't debian stat up at a terminal login, as opposed to a graphical one (like ubuntu)?
[04:42] <rraj_be> could you just summarise the steps please for making debian . .
[04:42] <BMWracer0> i dont use KDE
[04:42] <BMWracer0> gnome
[04:42] <rraj_be> i will make a not of it usser
[04:42] <ejer> nothing fishhooker really, they are technical, if you have more than 3GB of RAM, it may be worth going with 64, which runs as well as 32 these days in my experience
[04:42] <genii-around> fishhooker: 32bit works on both 32 or 64 bit cpus but only sees normally about 3.2Gb of ram. 64 bit only runs on 64 bit cpus and sees all your ram. Most apps run in 32 bit
[04:42] <snuitje> mikematic: thats entirely up to the user
[04:42] <usser> rraj_be, also you dont usually write makefiles manually, people use  IDEs that automate those tedious tasks
[04:42] <rraj_be> *note of it usser
[04:42] <usser> rraj_be, IDEs like netbeans or kdevelop
[04:42] <rraj_be> ok
[04:42] <nik> mike it is true, but i passed that point
[04:42] <Shoopuf> fishhooker: I tried 64-bit but didn't like it, not enough software available... Seems it's mostly made for 32-bit
[04:42] <rraj_be> what IDE can i use for this
[04:42] <rraj_be> ok
[04:43] <snuitje> mikematic: use tasksel to decide initially
[04:43] <rraj_be> fine
[04:43] <rraj_be> what is use of configure file
[04:43] <Guest34521> How can I "reset" a usb device like wireless device, without having to plug it in and out, if I restart ubuntu with it plugged in ?
[04:43] <usser> rraj_be, netbeans, but again using IDE only makes sense when your projects are reasonably large,20-30 files and mor
[04:43] <rraj_be> is it to make configurations for softwares usser
[04:43] <nik> problem is that i cant lunch X in the konsole by typing startx after i logon
[04:43] <usser> e
[04:43] <rraj_be> :) fine
[04:43] <bazhang> nik, debian is not supported here.
[04:43] <rraj_be> i will try thiose
[04:44] <hmw_lfs> using the "ati" (radeon) driver, i set agp 8x and fastwrite. since then the second monitor stays black. i am really out of hope
[04:44] <xr0ckstar> guest you can unmount it then mount it
[04:44] <ejer> Guest34521: you can unload and reload the driver
[04:44] <usser> rraj_be, goog luck in your journeys
[04:44] <Guest34521> ejer: usb ?
[04:44] <ejer> what device is it Guest34521
[04:44] <rraj_be> thanks a lot for your kind help
[04:44] <Guest34521> ejer: it's like, restarting usb ports , so I won't have to plug in and out my usb cable for my alfa 500mw
[04:45] <pedromenezes> I am getting 404 in the repositories after upgrading my Ubuntu 8.10, help me. =T
[04:45] <pedromenezes> and my wireless isn't working
[04:45] <fishhooker> all right, thanks guys regarding the 32/64 bit question! (haha sorry 'bout the delayed reaction)
[04:45] <rraj_be> this program is command line media player usser   . ..i wan2 make it a GUI with just a play and pause button using gtk.  . .Could you help me usser
[04:45] <ejer> Guest34521: i don't know what driver it uses, but you would use rmmod and modprobe to unload and reload it, this is usually good enough to reset it
[04:45] <Guest34521> pedromenezes: try changing servers for the repositories and what is not working about your wireless ?
[04:46] <fishhooker> i'll probably make the switch this summer though 'cause i can't afford to do anything ludicrously unfamiliar during the school year :P
[04:46] <pedromenezes> guest34521 after the upgrade, my wireless isn't searching/doing anything
[04:46] <Sierradump> Anyone know why sometimes my volume control buttons on laptop show the BIOS Volume icon, and other times the volume control buttons show a UBUNTU volume control popup???
[04:46] <pedromenezes> how can I change the repositories' servers?
[04:46] <Guest34521> pedromenezes: what device is it
[04:46] <Ninina> bazhang: I figured out the problem...the errors only happen with the new human themes...=\
[04:46] <ejer> fishhooker: you could look at http://wubi-installer.org/
[04:46] <snuitje> rraj_be: http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk-tutorial/stable/
[04:46] <usser> rraj_be, writing guis is easy, i recommend python with wxwidgets as a starting point
[04:46] <bazhang> Ninina, nice going
[04:47] <Guest34521> ejer: modprobe rt8187 ?
[04:47] <Sierradump> NININA:  which errors are you referring to???
[04:47] <rraj_be> sure usser  and snuitje  . . .
[04:47] <genii-around> Guest34521: Might want sudo with that
[04:47] <rraj_be> i am gona start now itself
[04:47] <ejer> Guest34521: rmmod rt8178, then type dmesg and see what it says, then modprobe rt8187 and dmesg again
[04:47] <tleuser835> 8.10 downloaded and written but not bootable. pls hlp!
[04:47] <pedromenezes> guest34521 where can I change the repositores
[04:47] <pedromenezes> ?
[04:47] <bazhang> tleuser835, md5 the iso
[04:48] <Sierradump> Bazhang:  Which errors is Ninina referring to?
[04:48] <bazhang> !md5
[04:48] <genii-around> Guest34521: Instead of rmmod use instead: sudo modprobe -r <modulename>
[04:48] <mikematis> pedromenezes: System > Administration > Software Sources...
[04:48] <ejer> pedromenezes: system>admin>software sources, but if you are not connected to net, this is why you have 404 errors
[04:48] <tleuser835> that was done. every file is OK.
[04:48] <bazhang> Sierradump, windows border with nvidia card
[04:48] <pedromenezes> I am connected through ethernet, thanks for the help
[04:49] <bazhang> tleuser835, then reburn at low speed and do the disk integrity check
[04:49] <Sierradump> bazhang:  like the missing minimize/maximize/close buttons and the title bar?
[04:49] <bazhang> Sierradump, yep
[04:49] <mikematis> pedromenezes: ...In the dropdown the says "Download from" select "other" and then click the "Select best server" buton.
[04:50] <Sierradump> bazhang, I was under the impression that was related to compiz?  I turned my visual effects off and am still using human theme and haven't had anymore problems...
[04:50] <doors98> is it possible for windows to access files on a network to an ubuntu OS?
[04:50] <tleuser835> the cd is readable but not bootable. lack of a boot image is a problem?
[04:50] <bazhang> doors98, sure
[04:50] <snuitje> !pm | xr0ckstar
[04:50] <Sierradump> doors98, type in \\computername\
[04:50] <ejer> !samba | doors98
[04:50] <bazhang> tleuser835, you reburned at low speed and did the disk integrity check?
[04:50] <Guest34521> genii-around: how can I found the module is it using ? my usb alfa 500mw
[04:50] <mikematis> doors98: yes. with sftp, ftp, or samba
[04:50] <doors98> bazhang: and Sierra: How
[04:51] <Guest34521> genii-around: the driver is IEEE
[04:51] <genii-around> Guest34521: This is an external USB DSL modem?
[04:51] <bazhang> doors98, see the link from the bot above
[04:51] <doors98> yap i already shared my forlder in Ubuntu using samba
[04:51] <Guest34521> genii-around: external usb wireless card
[04:51] <doors98> how will i access it on windows?
[04:51] <rmitchell> sierradump, how fairs your penguin?
[04:51] <Sierradump> door98 - most likely samba is already enabled... from your windows machine simply type in the browser window \\computername\
[04:51] <tleuser835> bazhang, not yet.
[04:51] <Guest34521> genii-around: and it connects with 2 usbs for power and I am sick of pluggin them out and in whenever I restart ubuntu
[04:51] <Sierradump> rmitchell couple questions maybe you could help.
[04:52] <pw-toxic> how can i enter special  keys like (tm)   i think in windows i could do this with alt gr + number
[04:52] <rmitchell> sierradump, i'll give it a try
[04:52] <genii-around> Guest34521: It's a Realtek 8185
[04:52] <pw-toxic> for example altGr + 174
[04:52] <Sierradump> Tried a skype install and got it running but it won't complete calls says bad audio settings or something - on a slightly related note - sometimes my volume buttons on my laptop control the system bios speakers and other times they control a ubuntu popup window...
[04:52] <usser> rraj_be, here something like this: http://pastebin.com/f75324f24
[04:52] <ejer> pw-toxic: no shortcuts, but application>accessories>character map
[04:53] <mikematis> doors98:Or do Map Network Drive from the tools menu of the my computer window.
[04:53] <Sierradump> rmitchell you catch that?
[04:53] <rmitchell> sierradump, yep
[04:53] <rraj_be> k
[04:53] <Guest34521> genii-around: yes but how can I rmmod it if ubuntu doesn't see it unless I have to plug it in and out which is my main problem in the first place ?
[04:53] <Sierradump> rmitchell other than that I am really having fun with this!
[04:53] <genii-around> Guest34521: Although some newer ones may use later like 8187
[04:53] <rraj_be> now where in the menu i can find the package i installed
[04:53] <Guest34521> genii-around: yes
[04:53] <rraj_be> is there any way to specify it usser
[04:53] <usser> rraj_be, what menu?
[04:54] <ejer> Guest34521: is the problem that when you reboot the stick is dead?
[04:54] <genii-around> Guest34521: Does it show when you issue: lsusb                   ?
[04:54] <usser> rraj_be, you mean synaptic?
[04:54] <rraj_be> i insno
[04:54] <rraj_be> no
[04:54] <snuitje> what did you install?
[04:54] <doors98> mikematis: if i do map network drive when i browse my ubuntu machine isnt disp[layed?
[04:54] <rraj_be> i have installed created .deb
[04:54] <rmitchell> sierradump, i never had problems with skype audio, as for the laptop buttons, that's interesting
[04:54] <Guest34521> genii-around: ejer: yes whenever I start/reboot ubuntu, the usb card is not recognized
[04:54] <rraj_be> now where or how can i use that application
[04:54] <rraj_be> in menus
[04:54] <Guest34521> genii-around: yes
[04:54] <rraj_be> usser:
[04:54] <Guest34521> genii-around: it shows
[04:55] <pw-toxic> ejer: cant i configure shortcuts for this?
[04:55] <ejer> Guest34521: most likely you will not fix this in software
[04:55] <Sierradump> rmitchell - ya when I first installed the laptop buttons caused a bios audio icon popup with volume meter... Pressing plus  made volume go up, pressing minus made sound go down...
[04:55] <ejer> pw-toxic: if you figure out how, please tell me
[04:55] <Guest34521> ejer: so plugging it in and out as always :( ?
[04:55] <Mal3ko> guys how do we switch/login to other user in ssh?
[04:55] <usser> rraj_be, i dont understand. you mean the one that you checkinstalled?
[04:55] <mikematis> doors98: Are both machines set to the same workgroup?
[04:55] <ejer> Guest34521: if rmmod and modprobe don't do it, then yes
[04:55] <doors98> or maybe i can type the ID of ubuntu? but how can i see my ip on Ubuntu?
[04:55] <Sierradump> rmitchell, now those same buttons are causing a ubuntu volume popup to come up with similar volume bar.  problem is that it is controlling the OS volume and not the speaker volume!
[04:56] <n8tuser> doors98  sudo ip a
[04:56] <node357> installing with wubi, stuck for 1 hour on "scanning the mirror" the Canadian server does not respond and I can't select a mirror during install
[04:56] <hmw_lfs> ssh address -l user
[04:56] <snuitje> Sierradump: unlikely, the bios shouldn't get scheduled, can't get back to the kernel it knows nothing about and generally really knows nothing about anything at all going on in the system
[04:56] <pw-toxic> ejer: :(
[04:56] <doors98> mikematis: where in ubuntu can i set the workgroup name? sorry total newbie
[04:56] <hmw_lfs> ssh address -l user Mal3ko
[04:56] <rmitchell> sierradump, ah... so the bios is adjusting volume, but so is the os.
[04:56] <ejer> Sierradump: you can change this in system>preferences>sound
[04:56] <rraj_be> i instlled that aplpication i created usser  . . .in which menu i can see it now or lauch it . . .like terminal by Applications--> Accessories--> Terminal . . like that
[04:56] <Guest34521> genii-around: it shows in lsusb how can I force ubuntu to mount it ?
[04:56] <mikematis> doors98: ifconfig in a terminal to get the ip
[04:56] <snuitje> Sierradump: bios isn't "magic" its just a blob sitting in a rom
[04:56] <genii-around> Guest34521: You don't "mount" a wifi adapter or so, only filesystems
[04:56] <doors98> how can i set the workgroup name so that windows automatically detects it
[04:57] <Sierradump> snuitje, originally after install the volume buttons caused a giant sound icon to pop up - the same icon i got in windows... Now I am only getting a ubuntu volume meter popup...
[04:57] <usser> rraj_be, oh there won't be a menu entry for it, since we didn't specify one, you can run it from terminal
[04:57] <snuitje> Sierradump: when linux runs linux is in charge
[04:57] <usser> rraj_be, by typing: raj
[04:57] <mikematis> doors98: hang on ...
[04:57] <Guest34521> genii-around: yes wrong word, but is there a way around it ?
[04:57] <cri_tmn> hy
[04:57] <genii-around> Guest34521: If you do:  lsmod| grep usbcore                            do you see something like this: usbcore               146412  4 rtl8187,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
[04:57] <muelle> .irc.cl
[04:57] <ejer> pw-toxic: i just found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey i t may help
[04:57] <Sierradump> rmitchell, yes that seems to be problem.
[04:57] <rraj_be> ok
[04:57] <Sierradump> ejer, I will check that out...
[04:57] <rraj_be> in CLI its ok
[04:57] <doors98> mikematis: i mean, where can i set my workgroup name in ubuntu?
[04:57] <Guest34521> genii-around: yes
[04:58] <rraj_be> but how for making menu entry? usser
[04:58] <usser> rraj_be, as part of .deb package?
[04:58] <snuitje> Sierradump: weird, but still what's the problem?
[04:58] <ejer> rraj_be: system>prefs>main menu
[04:58] <usser> rraj_be, i wouldn't know, never done it. you can add it manually
[04:58] <rraj_be> ok how to add manually ys
[04:58] <rraj_be> usser:
[04:59] <rmitchell> sierradump, disabling the bios feature might be best. or disable the OS stuff. You can pick which track the buttons control in system | preferences | sound
[04:59] <usser> rraj_be, what ejer said ^
[04:59] <hmw_lfs> doors98: /etc/samba/smb.conf - you might have to install samba
[04:59] <rraj_be> yes
[04:59] <rraj_be> thanks ejer
[04:59] <Sierradump> well the OS volume is all the way up, but the hardware volume isn't so it is faint/low volume;
[04:59] <Guest34521> genii-around: I FIXED IT, i forgot I had r8187, not rtl8187, I had to downgrade to r8187 because mac8021 has a bug, I realized mine is r8187 when I saw in your paste, rtl, THANKS MAN !!!
[04:59] <genii-around> Guest34521: OK. When you see this, and you issue: ifconfig                           does it show a wlan0         ?
[04:59] <mikematis> doors98: I think yu set it when you set up the shared folder.
[04:59] <usser> rraj_be, just add an entry, type the name, command is raj. and set it to run in terminal. im not sure where is it all located, havent run gnome for a while now
[05:00] <Sierradump> rmitchell, ejer, where exactly can I controll this? I am in system | preferences | sound
[05:00] <tleuser835> thanks. l'll be back.
[05:00] <rmitchell> sierradump, open up volume manager, double click your sound icon and lets see what track your buttons control
[05:00] <genii-around> Guest34521: Ah, a simple solution :) Glad it got working
[05:00] <Guest34521> genii-around: so I fixed it with modprobe -r and mount !
[05:00] <rraj_be> sure usser
[05:00] <Guest34521> genii-around: not mount, modprobe again*
[05:00] <Sierradump> ?
[05:00] <Sierradump> rmitchell confused...
[05:00] <genii-around> Guest34521: I'm not sure how "mount" fits into it however....
[05:01] <rmitchell> sierradump, double click the volume icon in your tray
[05:01] <Sierradump> I am on system | preferences | sounds tab...
[05:01] <Guest34521> genii-around: yes wrong word :)
[05:01] <snuitje> goodmorning everyone ./ cya l8r
[05:01] <ejer> Sierradump: default mixer track
[05:01] <Sierradump> okay
[05:01] <SuperGeek> 'ello all.
[05:01] <Guest34521> genii-around: do you have the same alfa as well ?
[05:01] <ejer> and check what rmitchell is saying, you probably have to change PCM volume
[05:01] <doors98> maikematis and to others who replied, thanks, i'l try all ur suggestions:)
[05:01] <rmitchell> sierradump, now press a volume button on your keyboard, and see which track's slider moves
[05:02] <SuperGeek> I have a laptop that supports x64...should I install the x64 version or x86? I want to use the laptop for casual use..
[05:02] <genii-around> Guest34521: I have an internal USB based 8187 which is similar
[05:02] <Sierradump> volume buttons are controlling the "master" audio track?
[05:02] <santanu> while mounting a drive in ubuntu 8.10 i found a message "internal error, no mount object for mounted volume"
[05:02] <santanu> i couldn't understand what to do!
[05:02] <mikematis> doors98: you should also be able to get to it from your windows box with \\ipofubuntubox\sharename typed into the address bar of any explorer window
[05:02] <ejer> SuperGeek: i recommend 64bit if over 3gb of ram
[05:02] <Sierradump> rmitchell, ejer  it moves the master audio slider
[05:02] <SuperGeek> ejer: 4GB of ram..
[05:02] <rmitchell> sierradump, alright, play some sound/music, and as its playing, play around with the PCM slider, see if that does what you want
[05:03] <Guest34521> genii-around: oh, 8187, do you find the drivers a bit unstable? my connection keeps fluctuating from 30% to 80%, but it windows it's more stable for example, so it couldn't be interference
[05:03] <ejer> SuperGeek: go for the gusto
[05:03] <santanu> Please help me
[05:03] <SuperGeek> ejer: are there any packages for x86 that aren't available for x64?
[05:03] <ejer> santanu: what file system on dirve, what type of drive
[05:03] <genii-around> Guest34521: I find that the power management which controls the usb bus varies the voltage which affects it's performance
[05:03] <santanu> ntfs
[05:03] <mikematis> SuperGeek: zsnes
[05:03] <ejer> SuperGeek: not that I know of, I have been in 64bit for many years
[05:04] <SuperGeek> hm.
[05:04] <Guest34521> genii-around: wow really? how can I fix that?
[05:04] <SuperGeek> how much RAM can Ubuntu use in x86?
[05:04] <ejer> SuperGeek: certainly no issues for casual use, but you can always just try the livecd and see for yourself
[05:04] <mikematis> SuperGeek: you can compile it yourself though. Sometimes someone will float a deb out there if you look around
[05:04] <ejer> you can make 32bit see all your ram
[05:05] <SuperGeek> oh?
[05:05] <Sierradump> rmitchell, it is still quiet... I can't figure it out.  When I first installed, I was controlling the actual speaker volume with the volume buttons.  I had the actuall hardware button all the way up, and the OS volume icon was at about 75%.  They were separate.
[05:05] <ejer> you need to compile a new kernel
[05:05] <genii-around> Guest34521: There is a value to set for it but offhand I cannot recall. When this happens for me I don't bother debuging it anymore but just plug in an auxilliary adapter I have
[05:05] <SuperGeek> ejer: it's not supported in the default kernel?
[05:05] <ejer> SuperGeek: no, it is in 64bit
[05:05] <Guest34521> genii-around: there is no adapter for it, it can only be powered by usb :(
[05:06] <SuperGeek> ah.
[05:06] <mikematis> SuperGeek: I've been on 64bit for 2yrs. Flash sometimes does strange things, since its just a wrapper around the 32bit version (i think).
[05:06] <ejer> there is a performance hit for it in 32bit I think SuperGeek
[05:06] <santanu> how can I solve my mounting problem?
[05:06] <SuperGeek> i see
[05:06] <rmitchell> sierradump, what sliders do you see in the 'playback' tab of volume control? I didn't know the bios stepped in for things as trivial as volume
[05:06] <SuperGeek> how about the nvidia proprietary drivers?
[05:06] <SuperGeek> will those work on x64?
[05:06] <ejer> mikematis: flash10 is 64bit now :) http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[05:06] <ejer> SuperGeek: everything works
[05:06] <mikematis> SuperGeek: Nvidia drvs work great
[05:07] <SuperGeek> alright
[05:07] <ejer> SuperGeek: would we use it otherwise
[05:07] <SuperGeek> x64 it is, i suppose
[05:07] <SuperGeek> haha, true
[05:07] <mikematis> ejer: Sweet! I'll check it out!
[05:07] <genii-around> Guest34521: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/power-off-usb-509328/   has the values to set I spoke of. You need to know which usb bus and device etc etc but the idea is explained there
[05:07] <ejer> mikematis: it solved all my probs
[05:07] <santanu> ejer!!
[05:07] <SuperGeek> thanks y'all
[05:07] <Sp00f> hi all
[05:07] <Sierradump> rmitchell, maybe it wasn't bios - but I definitley used to have a different sound icon after fresh install... It was the same icon I had for XP and Vista... It was in Ubuntu 8.10 too until a little while ago (after I installed a bunch of packages).  Then all of a sudden I get a ubuntu popup bar (no more grey sound icon w/ bar)...
[05:07] <santanu> may i be helped?
[05:08] <ejer> santanu: if you do not say my name I will not see it
[05:08] <Sp00f> happy tday
[05:08] <mikematis> SuperGeek: Have fun!
[05:08] <Sierradump> rmitchell, I see Master, PCM, Ext Mic, Int mic.
[05:08] <ejer> santanu: what type of drive? usb?
[05:08] <santanu> ejer: How can I solve my mounting problem?
[05:09] <LoveGuru> Is there anyone familiar with "proftpd" well i setup proftpd and works fine within the box. but when i try to open it outside the box it can;t let me in .. anyone?
[05:09] <rmitchell> sierradump, click 'preferences' and check anything that has to do with 'playback' see if anything is down low
[05:09] <santanu> ejer: no, hard drive : ntfs
[05:09] <BMWracer0> santanu:  i think they make a pill for it, but you still need a girlfriend
[05:09] <BMWracer0> well maybe not even that
[05:09] <Sierradump> rmitchell, Skype is giving me a "problem with audio playback" message and won't let me do anything!
[05:09] <BMWracer0> jut some woman
[05:09] <Guest34521> genii-around: ok I'll try that thanks a lot man !
[05:09] <ejer> LoveGuru: if you are trying to get in from outside your network you will need to open a port most likely
[05:09] <Sp00f> cyas
[05:10] <LoveGuru> ejer: i did open that port.. i can ssh my box from outside. but ftp won't working :<
[05:10] <doors98> How do i set my IP permanently on Ubuntu?
[05:10] <rmitchell> sierradump, sorry, my expirence with skype is limited.. it was nice to me when i set it up
[05:10] <ejer> LoveGuru: ssh is dif port than ftp... so you opened 22 and 21?
[05:10] <santanu> ejer: may I be helped? please?
[05:10] <ejer> santanu: i do not know what the error means
[05:10] <LoveGuru> ejer: thats what i m saying i did open both ports. i can do ssh but not ftp.
[05:10] <genii-around> Guest34521: I'll try to find a better one relating more directly
[05:10] <santanu> Oh! no!
[05:11] <Sierradump> rmitchell, what about the "device" listed at the TOP of the sound window, I have like 5 devices in there...
[05:11] <ejer> LoveGuru: is the ftp server responding at all
[05:11] <Guest34521> genii-around: I was actually using this one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=853179
[05:11] <usser> !ask | santanu
[05:11] <rmitchell> sierradump, what are your choices?
[05:11] <LoveGuru> ejer: well inside that box works fine. with user/anonymous
[05:11] <mikematis> doors98: System > Preferences > Network Configuration
[05:11] <ejer> santanu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus/+bug/256749
[05:11] <Sierradump> well right now it is on HDA nVidia mixes (alsa)... right underneat that it says CONNEXANT (oss)
[05:12] <ejer> LoveGuru: ok, but is it saying hello when you try to get in from outside? is it maybe only listening on localhost?
[05:12] <santanu> Thank you!
[05:12] <LoveGuru> ejer: i think its not listening at all
[05:12] <ejer> LoveGuru: you know you can do sftp with ssh?
[05:12] <genii-around> Guest34521: There is a more generic explanation here, but pretty good http://www.lesswatts.org/projects/devices-power-management/usb.php
[05:12] <ejer> LoveGuru: more secure, only one port, I use it
[05:13] <doors98> mikematis: thanks, i tried accesing ubuntu on windows using IP and it displayed the shared folder on Ubuntu, i'l try to assign a permanent ip then,
[05:13] <LoveGuru> ejer: ya i know i can do that ssh port. but i want to use it at port 21
[05:13] <rmitchell> sierradump, what does it list for your audio chipset in 'lspci'?
[05:13] <JON5000> hello.  i dont have ubuntu but i have a question... can i ask it here?
[05:13] <Flannel> JON5000: Is it an Ubuntu question?
[05:13] <mikematis> doors98: glad to help
[05:13] <Guest34521> genii-around: ok I'm trying the last one
[05:13] <genii-around> Guest34521: So "-1" is the autosuspend value you want for instance
[05:14] <Guest34521> genii-around: yup :)
[05:14] <ejer> LoveGuru: you see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ProFTPD
[05:14] <Guest34521> genii-around: do I use sudo instead of echo ?
[05:14] <JON5000> i hate my vista computer and am thinking of trying to dump it.  thinking of linux ubuntu.  is this possible?
[05:14] <LoveGuru> ejer: well i checked already :< but can't figure out.
[05:14] <MrCollins> ejer, this fixed my issue: http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2008/11/fix-for-no-sound-issue-in-ubuntu-810.html
[05:14] <Sierradump> rmitchell, nVidia corp. MCP51 High definition audio.
[05:15] <genii-around> Guest34521: You need admin right to write to that file. So proper way in Ubuntu is like:   echo "-1" | sudo tee -a /the/filepath/thefilename
[05:15] <Anacranom> JON5000, run it off the live cd to try it
[05:15] <genii-around> Guest34521: Where the path, etc is the /sys/wherever in the articles
[05:15] <Guest34521> genii-around: ok trying it now
[05:16] <JON5000> live cd?
[05:16] <ejer> LoveGuru: try connecting with telnet to see what is going on
[05:16] <doors98> mikematis: i couldnt find System > Preferences > Network Configuration on ubuntu, i just found System > Preferences
[05:16] <rmitchell> jon5000: a cd that will load up ubuntu in your ram, not touching your windows install at all
[05:16] <ejer> JON5000: check out http://wubi-installer.org/
[05:16] <mikematis> JON500: if your pc runs vista, it should run ubuntu. you can install ubuntu really easy from within vista.
[05:17] <JON5000> thanks anacronom.  One thing thats important to me is that i would be able to access files on this ubuntu computer from other pc's in the house that are connected wifi
[05:17] <p1und3r> can anyone help with my sound, i fricken downloaded updates in ubuntu and now my sound went out
[05:17] <Anacranom> JON5000, download the image from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download and burn that image to a cd, boot from the cd and play aroud with it
[05:17] <JON5000> doues ubuntu replace vista, or sit atop it
[05:17] <mikematis> doors98: My bad. Are you on 8.04? I'm on 8.10- that could be the diff.
[05:17] <n8tuser> doors98-> system->administration->network  or type  network-admin
[05:18] <rmitchell> sierradump: what packages did you install that might have messed with your sound, i think this issue is related to your skype problem
[05:18] <Anacranom> JON5000, if need be, after you've played around and decide if you want it, you can dual-boot-- have both your vista and your Ubuntu
[05:18] <doors98> mikematis: yap im stil on 8.o4, can i update to 8.10?
[05:18] <ejer> you choose JON5000 you can totally wipe it or install within windows, or share your hard drive
[05:18] <doors98> thanks nt8user
[05:19] <Sierradump> rmitchell, I installed xchat & skype .  I just messed with a few things let me see if that works.
[05:19] <ejer> JON5000: it is easy to share files https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/internet/C/networking-shares.html
[05:19] <mikematis> doors98: Stay on 8.04. Not that much different from 8.10.  Its System > Applications > Network
[05:20] <LoveGuru> ejer: i can't telnet to that host. reason " Connecting To foo.bar.com... Could not open connection to the host, on port 23: Connect failed
[05:20] <xscottx3> terminal question, how would I go about deleting all files ina  folder using the terminal?
[05:20] <p1und3r> can anyone help with a gconfaudio problem
[05:20] <LoveGuru> ejer: becoz i didn't open port 23
[05:20] <cast> xscottx3: rm -r dir/
[05:20] <ejer> LoveGuru: yeah :) it is the ftp control port
[05:20] <JON5000> fascinating.  but does it depend on vista to work.  e.g. i am really ticked off with vista because it routinely fails to recognize an external drive i have hooked up... if ubuntu depends on vista, i fear that ubuntu would have the same trouble... am i misguided?
[05:20] <xscottx3> thank you
[05:20] <cast> xscottx3: that'll delete the folder, too
[05:20] <ejer> LoveGuru: no
[05:20] <rmitchell> sierradump: run 'aplay -l" and give the output
[05:20] <Guest34521> genii-around: We know the USB to ethernet device's directory is 1-2 because the device and bus numbers match the lsusb output.  --- this is really confusing
[05:21] <LoveGuru> ejer: but u know what i set port 21 not 23 :
[05:21] <ejer> LoveGuru: that is telnet port, you need to telnet to port 21
[05:21] <Anacranom> JON5000, no,,, totally separate
[05:21] <doors98> mikematis or nt8user: then after im inside network admin, how will i set my workgroup on ububtu?
[05:21] <xscottx3> how do I just delete the files within the folder?
[05:21] <ejer> LoveGuru: but you may need port 20 open
[05:21] <LoveGuru> ejer: i tried but same error "telnet foo.bar.com:21"
[05:21] <genii-around> Guest34521: What they mean, is, when you do: lsusb           and you see somewhere the 8187 adapter. The usb bus is in that line.
[05:21] <p1und3r> --- what does gconfaudiosink: failed to connect to stream mean? how can i fix this?
[05:22] <n8tuser> doors98-> workgroup is a microsoft concept not an open source
[05:22] <cast> xscottx3: rm -r dir/* will delete all non-hidden files
[05:22] <hmw_lfs> doors98: /etc/samba/smb.conf
[05:22] <JON5000> this is very inspiring.
[05:22] <genii-around> Guest34521: eg: my box here: Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0bda:8187 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.                       means 5-2
[05:22] <xscottx3> cast: thank you
[05:22] <ejer> LoveGuru: so port 21 is not listening, try restarting service, and check logs to make sure, use ps to see if it is there
[05:22] <trashypatches> I am trying to get flash 10 to work on 1.04, I have installed some scripts using terminal that I think are gonna need to be removed. Is there anyway to revert to back to default?
[05:22] <LoveGuru> ejer: ok
[05:23] <doors98> hmw_lfs: what is etc/samba?will i open and edit?
[05:23] <aravindubuntu> hi when i try to connect to pulseaudio server using pulse audio device chooser applet , its refusing connection. Someone please help
[05:23] <Guest34521> genii-around: I have Bus 007 and  device 002 and that folder doesn't exist
[05:23] <cast> trashypatches: either undo what you've done manually, reinstall, or revert to a older snapshot/backup, are your 3 options,
[05:23] <hmw_lfs> doors98 - there you set the workgroup. if it isnt there, you need to install samba.
[05:23] <ejer> trashypatches: don't know what scripts you ran
[05:23] <Guest34521> genii-around: 7-3
[05:24] <Sierradump> rmitchell get 2 outputs.
[05:24] <Guest34521> genii-around: the folder is in another folder usb7 but it's a subfolder to usb7
[05:24] <wos> could someone tell me how to get usb working on virtualbox please?
[05:24] <Sierradump> rmitchell,  HDA nVidia Conexant Digital, and HDA nVidia CONEXANT Analog
[05:24] <trashypatches> To reinstall I have the live cd made, but when I boot it up I get a dr.dos cmd prompt
[05:25] <trashypatches> how do I get the gui interface?
[05:25] <mikematis> doors98:  type "sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf" this will open a text editor so you can edit the samba config, where the workgroup setting is (Samba is a thing that lets linux and windows machines "talk" to eachother)
[05:25] <doors98> lfs: how will i access the conf?
[05:25] <ejer> wos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox#USB
[05:25] <Guest34521> genii-around: sorry my bad, 7-2 doesn't exist
[05:25] <doors98> i see
[05:25] <wos> thanks alot ejer
[05:25] <LoveGuru> ejer: well its working now when i type at windows prompt "ftp foo.bar.com" but when i use "ftp foo.bar.com:21" its not working :<
[05:25] <Doonz> is there a command via ssh that will just show me cpu utilization %'s?
[05:25] <kelvin911> how to check my video card driver's version?
[05:25] <LoveGuru> ejer: whats the difference when i used host without port and with port
[05:26] <ejer> LoveGuru: in windows ftp?
[05:26] <cast> Doonz: using the load averages might be handy, but as for %'s, top will do that
[05:26] <ejer> Doonz: top
[05:26] <LoveGuru> yes i m trying to xs from windows
[05:26] <LoveGuru> ejer: my proftpd server is another unix box
[05:26] <ejer> LoveGuru: i am the wrong person to ask hehe, who knows what they are doing
[05:26] <faceface> how do I reset my network config?
[05:27] <genii-around> Guest34521: Does: ls /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb7/7-0:2.0                               show a list of files?
[05:27] <LoveGuru> ejer: nevamind. thanks for all
[05:27] <faceface> which files to delete, which to strip?
[05:27] <mikematis> Doonz: install htop. even better than top "sudo apt-get install htop"
[05:27] <ejer> LoveGuru: i suggest filezilla for a windows ftp client
[05:27] <LoveGuru> ejer: i m using WINscp
[05:27] <kelvin911> filezilla is good
[05:27] <ejer> faceface: /etc/network/interfaces
[05:27] <LoveGuru> ejer: i can't xs through winscp.
[05:27] <KlrSp1> ﻿still can't get this damn resume to work right
[05:27] <faceface> every time I log in I need to do ifdown eth1 / ifup eth1 to get anything working
[05:27] <Doonz> thnx
[05:27] <faceface> ty ejer
[05:27] <Sierradump> rmitchell, well that command got me to get Skype working!!!!  But the STUPID VOLUME CONTROL on the keyboard still controls the volume in the OS AND I am NOT getting the icon/soundmeter that I was getting originally - the volume is still really low.  I had to have done something?  ANyway I am going to reinstall everything tomorrow a.m.
[05:28] <Guest34521> genii-around: no such file or directory
[05:28] <iShock> How do I update intel 945GM drivers in Xubuntu? Anyone please?
[05:28] <Sierradump> Rmitchell, we will call today a "learning experience"... I botched the Skype install because I wasn't following the instructions very well...
[05:28] <fo_x86> how do I remove all files except for one in a directory?
[05:28] <wos> ejer where do i insert the text in that link you gave me?
[05:28] <ejer> iShock: you don't need to, it will update with update-manager
[05:28] <iShock> ejer how do I check latest version
[05:28] <genii-around> Guest34521: Ah. What says lsusb line which has your 8187?
[05:28] <hmw_lfs> fo_x86 move the file away, delete the rest, move it back
[05:28] <Sierradump> Hey thanks for everything guys! I gotta pass out now (too much turkey!!!!)   I'll catch you all online tomorrow a.m.
[05:29] <ejer> wos: it says in there
[05:29] <wos> i tried it!
[05:29] <wos> 5 times
[05:29] <fo_x86> hmw_lfs, there is no command that is equivalent to * minus a file?
[05:29] <ejer> iShock: it is built into the kernel, you have the latest if you are up to date
[05:29] <wos> could you help
[05:29] <iShock> ejer, BZFlag is detecting the version is from 2006 ...
[05:29] <cast> fo_x86: is your shell bash?
[05:29] <hmw_lfs> fo_x86 dont know. try "man mv"
[05:29] <genii-around> Guest34521: At any rate, you can see why I just don't bother much with it since it's less headache for me to just plug in a secondary ethernet adaper
[05:29] <Guest34521> there are 2 since I ahve to plugg in two, one is Bus 007 device 002, and second is Bus 003 device 003
[05:29] <fo_x86> cast, yea
[05:30] <ejer> wos: restart udev, you may have to reboot, and you have to be in vboxusers group, and you have to have logged out and back in
[05:30] <fo_x86> cast, is there a meta character that will do this?
[05:30] <wos> whats udev?
[05:30] <cast> fo_x86: you could load the extglob module and use rm !(pattern) to match everything except pattern
[05:30] <iShock> ejer, BZFlag is detecting the version is from 2006 ...
[05:30] <Guest34521> genii-around: but on their site it's simply confusing look at it again http://www.lesswatts.org/projects/devices-power-management/usb.php - Bus 001 Device 007: ID 050d:0121 Belkin Components F5D5050 100Mbps Ethernet - and they say that their device: We know the USB to ethernet device's directory is 1-2 because the device and bus numbers match the lsusb output.
[05:30] <cast> shopt -s extglob, will load the module
[05:31] <ejer> iShock: if you have latest kernel, you have latest driver, and I don't know what bzflag is
[05:31] <genii-around> wos: Basically the PNP system of linux
[05:31] <fo_x86> cast, thanks
[05:31] <wos> PNP?
[05:31] <iShock> a game, ejer it uses 3d opengl drivers, which is what I want to upgrade
[05:31] <ejer> wos: the page explains all the steps you must do
[05:31] <wos> no it fkn doesnt!
[05:31] <ejer> including udev wos look near bottom of that section
[05:31] <KlrSp1> anyone a hibernate master? i can get it to hibernate, but not resume
[05:31] <genii-around> Guest34521: Yes, looks like they do not match in this case. But i suspect a typo
[05:32] <iShock> ejer, how do I check the version?
[05:32] <Guest34521> genii-around: a typo as in only the bus counts ?
[05:32] <faceface> ejer, there is a lot of files under if-down.d  if-post-down.d  if-pre-up.d  if-up.d
[05:32] <ejer> uname -r iShock
[05:32] <genii-around> wos: udev detects devices and then assigns them /dev/names       so the system can use them
[05:32] <fr500> hi
[05:33] <faceface> avahi-daemon?
[05:33] <iShock> 2.6.27-10-generic ejer
[05:33] <faceface> what is avahi?
[05:33] <ejer> faceface: you can do this all by right clicking the network icon too
[05:33] <faceface> I keep seeing "eth1:ahvi" when I log in, then "no such interfce" when I try to configure
[05:33] <ejer> that is the latest iShock
[05:34] <ejer> !avahi
[05:34] <ejer> bah
[05:34] <faceface> ejer, thats the thing, it doesn't work
[05:34] <iShock> ejer, then why aren't my gfx drivers up to date?
[05:34] <genii-around> Guest34521: Not sure. I'm not a USB expert :) But for a while I was setting my 8187 in this way to not power off all the time until I just got sick and got another card
[05:34] <ejer> faceface: what doesn't
[05:34] <faceface> ejer, I used to have NM, now I don't seem to have it
[05:34] <mikematis> gnight, all!
[05:34] <Guest34521> genii-around: haha ok, thanks I'm still going to try to fix it
[05:34] <ejer> faceface: try running it manually on terminal with nm-applet
[05:34] <faceface> ejer,  network-admin doesn't work after I log in
[05:34] <faceface> ejer, OK
[05:34] <iShock> ejer, how do I check the version of my gfx drivers?
[05:34] <doors98> if i  type "sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf" the message is no such file of directory if i remove the quotes its command not found
[05:35] <iShock> !gksu
[05:35] <ejer> iShock: http://intellinuxgraphics.org/install.html read the first line :)
[05:36] <ejer> !samba | doors98
[05:36] <ejer> doors98: the guide is here https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html
[05:36] <faceface> ejer, just to fill you in, when I log in network is not connected. I click network icon and see three 'connections', eth0:avahi and eth1:avahi, clicking confiure gives a warning 'no such interface'
[05:37] <iShock> ejer, nothing there answers my question.
[05:37] <ejer> faceface: what is in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:37] <Massasauga> does anyone know why I have ordinary speed internet but only a 9% signal strength
[05:37] <faceface> ejer, ifup, ifdown (eth1) gets me up
[05:37] <ejer> sorry iShock
[05:37] <ejer> Massasauga: sometimes cards do not report signal strength right
[05:37] <iShock> ejer, how do I check the version of my 3d mesa drivers?
[05:38] <Massasauga> thanks ejer
[05:38] <FAJ> hi, my friend is having issues using nvidia-settings.  we have run sudo nvidia-xconfig, and then restarted x, but she still gets the error that xorg is not configured for nvidia, try doing the above steps.  anyone help   using ubuntu 8.04??? please?  thanks
[05:38] <fr500> !pulseaudio
[05:38] <ejer> iShock: glxinfo may give you something
[05:38] <ejer> FAJ: did you select the drive in system>admin>hardward drivers
[05:38] <iShock> Maybe installing mesa-utils might help, eh ejer? :<
[05:39] <FAJ> ejer, i will check again
[05:39] <rmitchell> FAJ: do you know what nvidia driver? I am using 177 with 8.10 and it works very well.
[05:39] <ejer> i doubt it iShock
[05:39] <iShock> ejer, I need that for glxinfo command to work .. but here.
[05:39] <iShock> ejer: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945GM 20061102 x86/MMX/SSE2 <- THAT'S what I want to update
[05:39] <\Kira> snuitje: when I try to run the client command you can me, it returns with connection refused...
[05:39] <FAJ> rmitchell: not sure.
[05:39] <ejer> iShock: update to what
[05:40] <faceface> here is 'interfaces' http://pastebin.com/m7a6c6710
[05:40] <faceface> ejer, ^^
[05:40] <iShock> The newest version, ejer.
[05:40] <FAJ> ejer rmitchell it is enabled
[05:40] <faceface> ejer, looks OK to me
[05:41] <ejer> faceface: try making it like this http://pastebin.com/m7149620a
[05:41] <rmitchell> FAJ: it should say what version in system | administration | hardware drivers
[05:41] <KlrSp1> anyone a hibernate master? i can get it to hibernate, but not resume
[05:41] <relisys> Guys please help me I remember there was an automated  xorg.conf utility that would  let me select and build my own file
[05:41] <relisys> what is it called
[05:41] <FAJ> rmitchell:  in hardy?  still using hardy here ;)
[05:41] <ejer> iShock: what is newest version? you think you do not have newest version?
[05:41] <iShock> ejer, I'm going to assume so, since my laptop is newer than 2006 ...
[05:41] <ejer> !suspend | KlrSp1
[05:42] <relisys> Anyone at all?
[05:42] <ejer> iShock: you should probably figure out if there is a new one
[05:42] <faceface> ejer, you just added 'auto eth1' right?
[05:42] <iShock> ejer, how?
[05:42] <woli> which is a good ftp solution with nice and clean gui?
[05:42] <ejer> no faceface
[05:42] <ejer> woli: filezilla
[05:42] <relisys> Can someone help me with about?
[05:42] <relisys> above?
[05:43]  * faceface goes to diff
[05:43] <rmitchell> FAJ: haven't tried in hardy, sorry
[05:43] <ejer> iShock: i told you, you have the latest unless you want to go install it manually, and if you do, the info is on that page
[05:43] <FAJ> rmitchell:  shoot
[05:43] <rmitchell> FAJ: any reason to stay in 8.04?
[05:43] <iShock> ejer, I don't think you get it, no offense.
[05:43] <ejer> relisys: xorgconfig, but you can do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:43] <Neurologic> Where can I get OpenGL and GTKGLExt?
[05:43] <Neurologic> Apparently I'm missing those O_o
[05:44] <ejer> iShock: i assure you i do, if you find a newer "driver", of which there is none since it is built into kernel, let me know, I will help you install it
[05:44] <FAJ> rmitchell:  yes; i finally got my wifi card working on one machine (it's a long and difficult process.... don't ask lol) and my other computer uses nvidia, so I wanna keep the effects.  also the screen is ubber frustrating to get configured correctly
[05:44] <relisys> ejer: I cannot seem to find that file or command
[05:44] <doraemon112> hihi
[05:44] <iShock> ejer, you seriously think there hasn't been any updates for OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945GM 20061102 x86/MMX/SSE2 since 11/02/2006?? ...
[05:44] <relisys> xorgconfig
[05:45] <ejer> relisys: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:45] <FAJ> ejer:  that command sucks!
[05:45] <ejer> ok
[05:45] <ejer> it regenerates xorg.conf...
[05:45] <FAJ> it crashes right before monitor setup; leaving you with a half complete xorg.
[05:46] <ejer> i use it all the time
[05:46] <FAJ> never EVER worked for me.
[05:46] <ejer> what do you suggest
[05:46] <transporter> does anyone know how to use compiz???
[05:46] <faceface> Neurologic, apt?
[05:46] <Guest34521> What text editors other than gedit does ubuntu have?
[05:46] <faceface> ejer, you moved the position of auto?
[05:47] <Neurologic> faceface, are those the correct names?
[05:47] <doraemon112> mụch
[05:47] <FAJ> ejer:  removing xserver-xgl worked!
[05:47] <faceface> Guest34521, nedit
[05:47] <transporter> does anybody know how to use compiz????
[05:47] <faceface> Neurologic, try apt-cache search
[05:47] <ejer> faceface: i just made it right, I moved auto yes
[05:47] <doraemon112> editor mousepad
[05:47] <ejer> faceface: does it work now?
[05:47] <faceface> ejer, OK
[05:47] <rmitchell> transporter: do you mean enabling effects?
[05:47] <doraemon112> left editor
[05:47] <transporter> yes
[05:47] <Guest34521> faceface: it's not installed
[05:47] <faceface> ejer, Don't know - its only a problem after a reboot
[05:47] <Guest34521> faceface: I need one already installed
[05:48] <faceface> Guest34521, try ooffice?
[05:48] <transporter> can u help me rmitchell
[05:48] <iShock> What do I do with a git:// link?
[05:48] <ejer> Guest34521: in terminal there are some
[05:48] <Guest34521> faceface: but how do I open it as root ?
[05:48] <faceface> ejer, how can I simulate a reboot?
[05:48] <rmitchell> transporter: go to system | preferences | appearance and go to the 'visual effects' tab
[05:48] <Guest34521> ejer: yes what are those in the terminal
[05:48] <relisys> ejer:it keeps making me setup my keybaord
[05:48] <faceface> Guest34521, what do you want to do?
[05:48] <ejer> faceface: log out and in maybe
[05:48] <transporter> k
[05:48] <ejer> Guest34521: nano
[05:48] <iShock> ejer what do I go with a git url?
[05:48] <iShock> !git
[05:48] <Guest34521> faceface: edit a file that doesn;t open with gedit
[05:48] <Neurologic> faceface, that's just a really long list of nothing related to what I need =P apparently OpenGL is broken, and/or missing
[05:49] <faceface> ejer, network stays connected
[05:49] <transporter> yes rmitchell and then??
[05:49] <rmitchell> transporter: click normal and wait for the window manager to refreash
[05:49] <ejer> faceface: it is not same really
[05:49] <faceface> Guest34521, which file?
[05:49] <faceface> Guest34521, type "file MyFile" and paste the result
[05:50] <faceface> Neurologic, hmm...
[05:50] <iShock> ejer, I have newer drivers. How do I install them? :>
[05:50] <faceface> Neurologic, Not sure
[05:50] <Guest34521> faceface: no worries nano worked , it was autosuspend for usb power control.
[05:50] <transporter> k that's done now what rmitchell
[05:50] <Guest34521> ejer: thanks ejer
[05:50] <faceface> Cool
[05:50] <rmitchell> transporter: if it stays on normal, with no errors, then you're all set
[05:50] <prodigrl> sup all
[05:50] <ejer> iShock: where are they? link
[05:50] <transporter> rmitchell its on normal
[05:50] <bazhang> !ccsm | transporter
[05:50] <iShock> ejer, http://intellinuxgraphics.org/download/IntelGfx-20081024/mesa.tar.gz
[05:50] <Neurologic> Can someone help me install OpenGL and GTKGLExt? apparently they're broken/missing?
[05:51] <transporter> i downloaded everything compiz from the add/remove
[05:51] <bazhang> transporter, help for compiz in #compiz-fusion
[05:51] <ejer> http://intellinuxgraphics.org/install.html ishock but I warn you, I would not do this unless you are comfortable using linux
[05:51] <rmitchell> transporter: you should be able to see the animations and such now, try minimizing something
[05:51] <transporter> k
[05:51] <CaptainMorgan> anyone good with software raid? running the md check command shows that everything is working as normal... but after I set up the two drives, I unplugged one of the SATA connectors and after that my system froze - I had to reboot and luck behold I had to reinstall grub... the instructions I followed had me install grub on both drives in case a drive failed... how can I be confident I've got it set up correctly?
[05:52] <transporter> give me a hand in a bit of customizing and then i will kick it off myself
[05:52] <CaptainMorgan> two drives, raid 1
[05:52] <faceface> ejer, thanks very much for help, I'll let you know this time tomorrow if it worked ;-)
[05:52] <Guest34521> genii-around: I FIXED IT
[05:52] <faceface> thanks again
[05:52] <rmitchell> transporter: go to system | preferences | compizconfig settings manager
[05:52] <prodigrl> gyache 1.1 no cam-error "vid format not supprted by grab device"
[05:52] <prodigrl> any help?
[05:53] <genii-around> Guest34521: Nice going :)
[05:53] <Guest34521> genii-around: I can tell you how it's really easy
[05:53] <pan> anyone help me get flash sound working?
[05:53] <pan> for firefox32 in 64bit ubuntu?
[05:53] <transporter> im on it
[05:53] <transporter> and then what rmitchell
[05:53] <ejer> CaptainMorgan: it should not freeze, so... that seems a dif problem form grub though
[05:53] <Guest34521> genii-around: is there a way to test if it actually will not autosuspend ?
[05:53] <iShock> ejer: Error: Could not locate the pkg-config autoconf macros.
[05:54] <CaptainMorgan> ejer, do you have any recommendations on how I can check everything to be sure it's set up correctly?
[05:54] <rmitchell> transporter: from here on, its pretty much whatever you want. Most of the stuff you'll want to play with will probably be in "effects" or "window management"
[05:54] <iShock> ejer: Error: Could not locate the pkg-config autoconf macros.
[05:54] <ejer> CaptainMorgan: cat/proc/mdstat is what I use, as well as mdadm, definitely read the mdadm wiki and man page
[05:54] <genii-around> Guest34521: Hmm, not sure, other than it just keeps working at same speed, etc
[05:54] <rmitchell> there might be some stuff in "desktop" you want to play with too
[05:55] <transporter> k but for some awkward reason i don't seem to get it to work
[05:55] <CaptainMorgan> ejer, as I said earlier - md showed everything was in order...
[05:55] <ejer> iShock: you are not going to be able to do this, sorry, and it is not necessary
[05:55] <rmitchell> transporter: what do you mean/
[05:55] <CaptainMorgan> mdadm
[05:55] <ejer> CaptainMorgan: well, that is how you check :)
[05:55] <iShock> ejer, it is too, and yes, I can, how do I fix Error: Could not locate the pkg-config autoconf macros.
[05:55] <KlrSp1> anyone a hibernate master? i can get it to hibernate, but not resume
[05:55] <transporter> ok rmitchell can u give me an example plz
[05:55] <transporter> i wanna make the cube
[05:55] <ejer> well, I cannot help you iShock good luck
[05:55] <CaptainMorgan> ejer, so what possible explanation would there be for the system freezing on a simulated hard drive failure ?
[05:55] <iShock> Why not ejer
[05:56] <Jordan_U> iShock: When do you get that error?
[05:56] <user-05> lischyie
[05:56] <user-05> hyyyyyy
[05:56] <rmitchell> transporter: alright, for the cube, you're going to click "dekstop" and then check the box next to desktop cube
[05:56] <ejer> CaptainMorgan: a bug?  a hardware issue? lots of possibilities...
[05:56] <january> Hi all
[05:56] <transporter> and then??? rmitchell
[05:56] <ultrav1olet> Two questions: how can I bind network interfaces to my NIC MAC addresses and how can I up a network interface _without_ assigned IP address.
[05:57] <Guest34521> genii-around: oh ok thanks, and by the way, to know how I did it we just skipped the step where they cat the files. You don't necessarily have to cat the files since the GUI in ubunut can see the first number. You just have to look in folders that have only 2 numbers separated by a dash like 7-3 and then look at the files busnum and devnum, for me 7-3 had busnum 7 and devnum 2 which was the device
[05:57] <iShock> Jordan_U: Pastebinning
[05:57] <\Kira> Im trying to vnc into a remote system, and I get a connection refused error when I try to. I am not really familiar with what im doing, so I need a little help
[05:57] <user-05> an body here?
[05:57] <rmitchell> transporter: then click 'desktop cube', not the box, it will open the preferences. what you really want is the keystroke
[05:57] <Jordan_U> user-05: no
[05:57] <iShock> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77617/
[05:58] <Hiker1352> Can I wrap a socks proxy over a program before I run it?
[05:58] <rmitchell> transporter: mine is alt+super+down arrow, the super key will be your windows key on a PC keyboard
[05:58] <Jordan_U> Hiker1352: Yes, with soxify
[05:58] <cakey> super lol
[05:58] <transporter> i got ctrl alt down
[05:58] <n8tuser> ultrav1olet-> umm udev and using of iproute2 tool  ip
[05:59] <genii-around> Guest34521: I knew you'd find it empirically :)
[05:59] <iShock> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77617/
[05:59] <CaptainMorgan> ejer, mind if I private message you the output to cat /proc/mdstat to see if you notice anything peculiar ?
[05:59] <rmitchell> transporter: alright, press cnt+alt+down and see if thats the effect you want
[05:59] <Guest34521> genii-around: the problem is the numbers change after each restart
[05:59] <Hiker1352> Jordan_U: Is that installable with apt-get?
[05:59] <Guest34521> genii-around: so I have to do it again each time :(
[05:59] <user-05> hyyyyyyyyyy,,,,,,,,,,really i dont understand what you,re say
[05:59] <ejer> CaptainMorgan: paste it
[05:59] <transporter> should i click on enable this cube
[05:59] <ultrav1olet> n8tuser: I want to set up network interface automatically using /etc/network/interfaces
[05:59] <ejer> !paste | CaptainMorgan
[05:59] <Jordan_U> Hiker1352: Yes, the package name is dante-client
[05:59] <prodigrl> i did some reasearch out of 133 folks on my buddy list, only 4 have cam, all running linux
[05:59] <prodigrl> hrm
[05:59] <ultrav1olet> of course, I can use ip or ifconfig for that
[06:00] <CaptainMorgan> so is that a yes or no?
[06:00] <CaptainMorgan> http://pastecode.com/19401
[06:00] <Jordan_U> iShock: Where is autogen.sh from?
[06:00] <iShock> http://intellinuxgraphics.org/download/IntelGfx-20081024/mesa.tar.gz
[06:00] <kaiaphas> wazzup
[06:00] <iShock> Jordan_U: ^
[06:00] <transporter> rmitchell should i click on enable this cube
[06:00] <kaiaphas> I am new here
[06:01] <rmitchell> transporter: yes
[06:01] <ejer> looks ok CaptainMorgan
[06:01] <kaiaphas> wew
[06:01] <Ahadiel> Hiker1352, There's also tsocks
[06:01] <n8tuser> ultrav1olet-> so what is the question?
[06:01] <genii-around> Guest34521: Yes, thats why I went the route of another card, instead of trying to find where this gets set. Although a script somewhere in /etc/network/if-up.d           might do it
[06:01] <Jordan_U> iShock: What are you trying to do?
[06:01] <iShock> Update my mesa 3d drivers, Jordan_U
[06:02] <rmitchell> transporter: feel free to play around with the settings, change keyboard shortcuts, etc it won't screw anything up too bad
[06:02] <transporter> rmitchell i can see the cube but it just lays a bit flat
[06:02] <Jordan_U> iShock: Is there a reason you need to update them?
[06:02] <transporter> rmitchell its not what i exactly call a cube
[06:02] <iShock> Jordan_U: BZFlag. It's not going well with drivers from 2006
[06:03] <prodigrl> dual boot with winders? alot work for a dagum cam
[06:03] <rmitchell> transporter: you may want effects | "3d windows" instead
[06:03] <ejer> Jordan_U: i went through this already with iShock, have fun :)
[06:03] <Trashypatches> i'm having issues with firefox regarding flash.  Everytime i run youtube firefox freezes up and I have to force quit.  I just upgraded to the 64 bit 1.04. How do I get flash working??
[06:03] <devin_> ordinary shouldnt / be sda1?
[06:04] <prodigrl> trashy-had the same, ran opera, ran fine
[06:04] <ejer> Trashypatches: ubuntu 8.04?
[06:04] <transporter> rmitchell this thing it just lays flat on the ground and nothing else
[06:04] <Guest34521> genii-around: oh I don't know how to make scripts :(
[06:04] <Trashypatches> ejer: it ran fine with 8.04
[06:04] <Ahadiel> transporter, open ccsm => General Options => Desktop Size
[06:04] <iShock> Jordan_U: I know I probably shouldn't, but can you just help me get them installed? Please? :>
[06:04] <niklaus> how do i clone a harddisk , i 've around 9 partitions . i want to clone the complete harddisk
[06:04] <niklaus> ?
[06:05] <ejer> I just upgraded to the 64 bit 1.04. <- what is 1.04 Trashypatches
[06:05] <prodigrl> 9 parts? holy frak!
[06:05] <prodigrl> lol
[06:05] <transporter> Ahadiel im in desktop size now what??
[06:05] <Jordan_U> iShock: Can you pastebin the readme file? ( the file you linked to is 62 meg )
[06:05] <Ahadiel> transporter, Horizontal Size to 4, and Vertical Size to 1
[06:06] <ejer> niklaus: http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live/
[06:06] <cakey> 62mb of readme
[06:06] <cakey> TLDR;
[06:06] <cakey> TL;DR
[06:06] <Trashypatches> ejer: sorry, the newest version of Ubuntu
[06:06] <iShock> http://intellinuxgraphics.org/install.html Jordan_U
[06:06] <Jordan_U> iShock: ... or maybe it isn't, it just finished at 1.3 meg
[06:06] <niklaus> ejer, it requires a live CD which i don't have currently .  Can i do it while running linux ?
[06:07] <shal3r> My Xorg always consumes about 10-30% of CPU (I got Celeron, 3.2GHz), even when all apps are closed. How to debug this?
[06:07] <transporter> Ahadiel should the number of desktops be 4???
[06:07] <Jordan_U> iShock: Have you installed all of the packages which that page says are required?
[06:08] <Ahadiel> transporter, Why are you using multiple question marks? It makes you seen demanding. Also, mine is set to 1 and it works fine.
[06:08] <iShock> Jordan_U: Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
[06:08] <Ahadiel> seem*
[06:08] <transporter> oh multiple question marks Ahadiel is my habit!!!
[06:08] <rmitchell> niklaus: google 'ubuntu clone hard drive' check out the first result. You'll have to use terminal, but the site explains it
[06:08] <ejer> Trashypatches: you could try http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[06:08] <transporter> its not about being demanding or anything like that :D
[06:08] <shal3r> transporter, bad habit.
[06:08] <genii-around> Ahadiel: I can see how that would get on your nerves
[06:09] <VistaUser> hey
[06:09] <transporter> thankyou for the applause shal3r
[06:09] <shal3r> transporter, you are welcome
[06:09] <ejer> niklaus: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Dd
[06:09] <Ahadiel> genii-around, orly????? -_-
[06:09] <Trashypatches> ejer: I have tried that, when i unzipped it Ubuntu could not run the program
[06:09] <transporter> shal3r :P x 1000
[06:09] <prodigrl> http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/unix2.html
[06:09] <genii-around> Ahadiel: :)
[06:09] <prodigrl> for the new youngbuckers
[06:09] <Ahadiel> genii-around, ;D
[06:09] <FAJ> hey trying to get friends video res to work, removed xserver-xgl, and i have the correct resolution, but terminal is PURE WHITE.  any help please?
[06:09] <iShock> Jordan_U: it's not finding some packages :<
[06:10] <ejer> Trashypatches: run it with 'sh flashinstaller....'
[06:10] <transporter> ok Ahadiel now what?
[06:10] <Trashypatches> ejer: ok
[06:10] <Ahadiel> transporter, Have you tried using the cube?
[06:10] <Jordan_U> iShock: What is the output of "which libtoolize" ?
[06:10] <transporter> no not yet
[06:10] <iShock> /usr/bin/libtoolize Jordan_U
[06:10] <transporter> the thing looks so flat
[06:10] <Ahadiel> transporter, Still?
[06:10] <ejer> FAJ: sis you disable desktop effects
[06:11] <transporter> i tried it when u told me
[06:11] <ejer> FAJ: did I mean lol
[06:11] <FAJ> lol ejer; no desktop effects even on right now
[06:11] <transporter> it just stays flat only when i press the buttons and stays there till those buttons are pressed
[06:11] <sjaak538> +i
[06:11] <Ahadiel> transporter, How are you changing desktops? (ie. rotating the cube)
[06:11] <ejer> FAJ: well, I don't think they will work without xgl, try it
[06:11] <Jordan_U> iShock: What packages is "it" not finding, and what is "it"? apt ?
[06:11] <macvr> hi all... i have a problem with my laptop wireless.... everytime i restart the laptop , if the power has been disconnected, the wireless doesnt start... i have to fiddle with the hardware key , and then restart again... how do i correct this?
[06:12] <FAJ> ejer; the forums said that removing xserver-xgl would MAKE them work...
[06:12] <Jordan_U> ejer: XGL is pretty much dead
[06:12] <transporter> i haven't tried anything as in yet Ahadiel
[06:12] <relisys> Are there any experts on xorg.conf?   i do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and all it does is asks me tons of questions about my keyboard and nothing on the video.  please help me.. i have nvidia driver and their settings penal does not act as it should.
[06:12] <ejer> k
[06:12] <iShock> Jordan_U: Meh, I really am starting to hate *buntu :<
[06:12] <Ahadiel> transporter, Then how do you come to the conclusion that it's flat?
[06:12] <Ahadiel> transporter, Hold Ctrl + Alt + Left-Click and move your mouse back and forth.
[06:12] <iShock> My xorg.conf doesn't even have anything about i810 or intel Jordan_U
[06:12] <transporter> i press the given buttons it flattens out into 4 screens but no cube
[06:13] <FAJ> ejer; reinstalling gnome-terminal didn't work
[06:13] <Jordan_U> iShock: Well maybe you shouldn't try to replace core parts of the system for no good reason :)
[06:13] <relisys> any one can assist?
[06:13] <iShock> Jordan_U: There is a good reason.
[06:13] <Ahadiel> transporter, Try what I just said.
[06:13] <ejer> FAJ: like I said, I would try disabling desktop effects, or else look at the terminal preferences, you can change colors there
[06:13] <iShock> Jordan_U: What do I do with git:// links?
[06:13] <transporter> Ahadiel, please tell me what exactly do u want me to try?
[06:13] <Jordan_U> iShock: It doesn't need to, the driver should be auto detected and if it were listed in the xorg.conf the correct driver would be "intel" not i810
[06:13] <Ahadiel> transporter, Hold Ctrl + Alt + Left-Click and move your mouse back and forth.
[06:14] <relisys> Guys some help please
[06:14] <transporter> k
[06:14] <iShock> Jordan_U: What do I do with git:// links?
[06:14] <ejer> iShock: 2 people who know have now said it is a bad idea, maybe you should look for an alternate solution?
[06:14] <prodigrl> i drank way to much today "copy paste" not working lol
[06:14] <iShock> ejer, fine, you play a game where everyone else gets 100+ fps and you can't get over 40, see how well it works for you.
[06:14] <shal3r> My Xorg always consumes about 10-30% of CPU (I got Celeron, 3.2GHz), even when all apps are closed. How to debug this? In result, everything is slow.
[06:14] <ejer> relisys: what is the problem exactly
[06:15] <Static-> .
[06:15] <ejer> iShock: maybe it is not because you have an old driver
[06:15] <relisys> ejer: my current settings are 53hz
[06:15] <relisys> refresh rate
[06:15] <Jordan_U> iShock: You are using integrated graphics
[06:15] <relisys> i  need to set it to at least 60
[06:15] <Ahadiel> transporter, Any luck?
[06:15] <iShock> ejer, name other reasons then.
[06:15] <rmitchell> shal3r: you sure its xorg, or is it some other task?
[06:15] <conal> is there a fancy/pretty way to look at man pages on ubuntu?  i.e., nicer looking than nroff output in a terminal?
[06:15] <transporter> Ahadiel, nothing moves
[06:15] <FAJ> ejer that worked; what was the issue?
[06:15] <shal3r> rmitchell, `top` shows xorg
[06:15] <Jordan_U> iShock: Please don't repeat, you use git to get the code
[06:16] <Ahadiel> transporter, Then tell me this, what buttons did you press to see the 4 desktops?
[06:16] <ejer> FAJ: what worked? desktop effects?
[06:16] <iShock> But firefox doesn't recognize git:// links
[06:16] <FAJ> ejer:  ya
[06:16] <transporter> ctrl alt down
[06:16] <Ahadiel> transporter, Yeah, I think that's not the combination for the cube.
[06:16] <ejer> FAJ: i guess that was the issue, seems something is mal-configure
[06:17] <ejer> d
[06:17] <VistaUser> hey
[06:17] <iShock> Jordan_U: Any idea how to get better gaming fps without doing this?
[06:17] <Ahadiel> s/I think//
[06:17] <rmitchell> shal3r: system | administration | system monitor, you can sort by cpu usage see what the top tasks are
[06:17] <transporter> Ahadiel, that's what i think!
[06:17] <Ahadiel> transporter, If you open ccsm again, look under the "Desktop" heading and see if Desktop Cube and Rotate Cube are enabled.
[06:17] <FAJ> ejer:  o ok
[06:17] <ejer> get a dedicated card iShock
[06:17] <transporter> k
[06:18] <DeviN> installing ubuntu, curious i have 2gb of ddr2 what should i set swap to and should it be set to primary or logical?
[06:18] <prodigrl> can you drag and drop open windows into another dsktop
[06:19] <Ahadiel> DeviN, Is this a laptop and/or do you plan on using suspend/hibernate?
[06:19] <Jordan_U> iShock: First off, are you sure that your integrated graphics should can get better performance? Have you tried BZflag on the same computer with a different OS and gotten better FPS?
[06:19] <shal3r> rmitchell, nothing there is using more than 3%
[06:19] <thesecondlaw> conal, you can pipe it to a text file and read it in whatever you want
[06:19] <DeviN> Ahadiel desktop
[06:19] <thesecondlaw> man X >> ~/man.txt
[06:19] <transporter> Ahadiel, its working better
[06:19] <ejer> DeviN: you can leave it default, but primary or logical is fine, make it 150% of ram if you want to hibernate
[06:19] <scunizi> DeviN, 1 gig max unless your using suspend/hibernate then 1.5x of memory
[06:19] <Jordan_U> iShock: Second, can you check that you are getting direct rendering by running "glxinfo | grep direct" ?
[06:19] <transporter> Ahadiel, cool
[06:19] <Ahadiel> transporter, So ctrl + alt + left-click + moving mouse works?
[06:19] <transporter> now what about that rotating windows cube
[06:19] <conal> how about something with type-setting -- variable-width fonts etc?
[06:20] <iShock> "Yes" Jordan_U
[06:20] <transporter> yes ctrl alt down  right and left moves the screens
[06:20] <conal> something gnome-ish looking
[06:20] <rmitchell> shal3r, a friend and i had some trouble with trackerd taking up a lot of resources, two seperate machines, and it would hold up the whole system
[06:20] <Ahadiel> transporter, I'm not saying to use the arrow keys.
[06:20] <VistaUser> can someone help me
[06:20] <Jordan_U> !ccsm | transporter
[06:21] <VistaUser> i am new to ubuntu and i dont know hw to install new progs
[06:21] <VistaUser> like games
[06:21] <scunizi> conal, scribus, or latex and one if it's front ends.
[06:21] <_2> something happened in the last dapper update and now i can't mount usb devices   !
[06:21] <Takuya> Hey guys, I have a question about Ubuntu on a Mac if anyone knows much about that?
[06:21] <shal3r> rmitchell, i don`t have it
[06:21] <_2> is this a known bug ?
[06:21] <Jordan_U> !software | VistaUser
[06:21] <Trashypatches> ejer: i typed the "sudo apt-get install nspluginwrapper flashplugin-nonfree" it worked for one video...i loaded another and firefox froze again
[06:21] <transporter> im in ccsm right now Jordan_U
[06:21] <ejer> VistaUser: applications>add/remove and you can choose games
[06:21] <rmitchell> shal3r: are you using effects?
[06:21] <ejer> Trashypatches: why did you type that command?
[06:21] <VistaUser> kk
[06:21] <VistaUser> ty
[06:21] <shal3r> rmitchell, no
[06:21] <Jordan_U> Trashypatches: Have you tried the alpha 64 bit native flash?
[06:21] <_2> plug in the usb disk and dmesg says   [17189108.924000] Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
[06:22] <_2> ???
[06:22] <scunizi> conal, scribus for publishing things like flyers, newspapers, booklets etc.. and latex for typesettings.. although its a chore to learn latex
[06:22] <brento72> i have a question about Konversation if anyone has a minute
[06:22] <prodigrl> why is it that a guy named vistauser gets assist and the little lady here doesnt
[06:22] <prodigrl> hrm
[06:22] <rmitchell> shal3r, not sure what could be causing it, sorry
[06:22] <VistaUser> lol
[06:22] <thesecondlaw> !patience
[06:22] <Takuya> Basically if anyone wants to help out, I can't seem to boot into Ubuntu, I installed it, it went well, but I have no choice to boot into it after holding down option, or by Apple->System Prefs->Statup Disk
[06:22] <VistaUser> cause everyone loves Vista
[06:22] <ejer> Trashypatches: i sent you the link for 64bit flash from adobe
[06:22] <VistaUser> lol
[06:22] <genii-around> Trashypatches: That can be found incidentally at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html   bottom of page
[06:22]  * prodigrl differs
[06:22] <conal> scunizi: i use latex quite a lot for publishing research papers.  does it connect to man?  that's what i'm looking for.  a nice viewer for man pages, with typesetting.
[06:23] <scunizi> prodigrl, yes you can drag and drop windows to different desktops...
[06:23] <conal> scunizi: i hadn't heard of scribus though.
[06:23] <_2> prodigrl cause you whine too much ?    just a guess, cause i only just got here
[06:23] <shovi> is it worth installing ubuntu or just sudo apt-get install gnome, --- As I have kubuntu
[06:23] <Guest34521> WTF, I just UPDATED ubuntu and now modprobe r8187 doesn't work
[06:23] <thesecondlaw> _2 | !manners
[06:23] <Ahadiel> shovi, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:23] <scunizi> conal, ah.. not sure if latex will do that with man pages.. but I read about something that would several months ago.. unfortunatly, I can't remember what it is..
[06:23] <prodigrl> _2 wine? hrm no
[06:24] <ejer> conal: you know info has better formatting than man?
[06:24] <shovi> Ahadiel, then upon boot i can pick?
[06:24] <doors98> what is this in ubuntu? i cant boot: "42.181874: kernel panic-not syncing, attempting to the idle task" then it stops there forever
[06:24] <Appiah> you can have multiply DE's with any linux distrubition shovi
[06:24] <Takuya> oh I think I installed grub wrong...
[06:24] <Takuya> hrmm
[06:24] <Ahadiel> shovi, yeah
[06:24] <Appiah> and switch between them as you like
[06:24] <prodigrl> why would i wine in a friggin ubuntu chan
[06:24] <prodigrl> gay
[06:24] <shovi> ok thanks
[06:24] <conal> ejer: no, i didn't.  i'll check it out.
[06:24] <prodigrl> scu- thanks
[06:25] <thesecondlaw> shovi, I had all sorts of trouble making ubuntu work well by just installing gnome. If you have the time, do a complete install. Not saying it won't work but all the KDE configs are hard to change back to GDM stuff
[06:25] <DeviN> ok have another question, is making a /home partition really necessary I usually just use my entire drive as /
[06:25] <brento72> I have got the channel list on the left hand side was wondering if there was a way to sort the channels in alphabetical order in Konversation?
[06:25] <rmitchell> prodigrl: whats your question?
[06:25] <AndreSch> hi list
[06:25] <Takuya> but at any rate before I fudge something, does anyone know the answer?
[06:25] <Ahadiel> thesecondlaw, gnome or ubuntu-desktop? Becuase the latter will inevitably work better.
[06:25] <VistaUser> is there a crtl alt delte thingy on ubuntu?
[06:26] <ejer> thesecondlaw: you need to install ubuntu-desktop
[06:26] <VistaUser> like on window
[06:26] <thesecondlaw> excuse me, i believe ubuntu-desktop is the correct package
[06:26] <ejer> VistaUser: yes
[06:26] <Trashypatches> ejer: ok sorry i'm removing the previous command that I listed, then I have downloaded the flash plugin to the desktop how do I install it once I have unzipped it from the tar.gz file.  Sorry I am still somewhat new to the terminal
[06:26] <rmitchell> vistauser: if you mean a task manager, system | administration | system monitor
[06:26] <scunizi> DeviN, if you make a seperate /home and there is an issue with upgrading or something you did to mess the system... it's much easier to reinstall without loosing all your data.
[06:26] <VistaUser> ejer what is it and how i get
[06:26] <AndreSch> have a problem with apache - am using Webmin and created a virtual domain - now I keep on getting error : Service Temporarily Unavailable
[06:26] <ejer> Trashypatches: sh flashplug....
[06:26] <ejer> VistaUser: you mean like system monitor
[06:26] <rmitchell> vistauser: then click processes
[06:26] <Trashypatches> ejer: type that in terminal?
[06:26] <thesecondlaw> ejer, nope I was just sharing a personal experience on the kubuntu to ubuntu transition without reinstalling
[06:26] <scunizi> !webmin | AndreSch
[06:26] <VistaUser> yes
[06:26] <prodigrl> rmitchell, first was can run cam in gyache 1.1
[06:27] <VistaUser> i want it
[06:27] <conal> ejer -- info == emacs info ?
[06:27] <ejer> Trashypatches: type sh then the name of the file
[06:27] <Guest34521> Help, I just updated ubuntu and now my r8187 module is gone for good, modprobe says it's not found
[06:27] <prodigrl> er cant run
[06:27] <Trashypatches> ejer: ok thank you
[06:27] <VistaUser> how about on KDE4?
[06:28] <rmitchell> vistauser: under kde i belive is called ksysguard
[06:28] <ejer> VistaUser: system>admin>system monitor
[06:28] <LuYu> has anybody here used a cellphone as a modem to connect to the net?
[06:28] <ejer> oh that is gnome VistaUser
[06:28] <VistaUser> yah
[06:28] <AndreSch> will ebox be able to fix the problem??
[06:28] <VistaUser> i need for KDE
[06:29] <thesecondlaw> LuYu, yes, a while back
[06:29] <doors98> what is this in ubuntu? i cant boot: while ubuntu is booting here is the last error msg."42.181874: kernel panic-not syncing, attempting to kill the idle task" then it stops there forever
[06:29] <prodigrl> luyu- yes
[06:29] <rmitchell> prodigrl: what kind of camera?
[06:29] <VistaUser> which Linux have u guys tried?
[06:29] <Ahadiel> LuYu, I have.
[06:29] <thesecondlaw> LuYu, I belive there is a util out there for linux for motorola phones
[06:29] <VistaUser> cause i cant find a good one
[06:29] <ejer> most of them VistaUser
[06:29] <thesecondlaw> If you're new to linux, try ubuntu-mint
[06:30] <prodigrl> rmitchell  philips sic 4750
[06:30] <superfirelord42> doors98, did you just install it? or has it just started doing this?
[06:30] <Jordan_U> !anyone | LuYu
[06:30] <LuYu> so, i need something in addition to just intrepid and a USB cable?
[06:30] <Trashypatches> ejer: when I typed that into the terminal this came back "Can't Open libflashplugin"
[06:30] <genii-around> prodigrl: If your webcam currently works in Ubuntu, then gyache will be able to use it. If it doesn't currently work then ask about getting it to work first before trying it under some program which is not provided int he repositories and supported, like gyache or gyachi
[06:30] <Jordan_U> LuYu: Are you using 8.10 ?
[06:30] <LuYu> yeah
[06:30] <VistaUser> i tried ubuntu but its very limited i wanta nice enviroment and good progs and good for gamming
[06:30] <LuYu> and it has a setup for the local network
[06:30] <ejer> Trashypatches: you need to remove flashplugin-nonfree and ndiswrapper first
[06:31] <LuYu> however, it keeps asking for a password
[06:31] <thesecondlaw> VistaUser, if you want to play windows games I'm afraid linux is not for you.
[06:31] <scunizi> VistaUser, howdo you mean.. limited?
[06:31] <Trashypatches> ejer: I have done that
[06:31] <superfirelord42> thesecondlaw, unless he tries wine...
[06:31] <LuYu> i asked the service provider,  and they said a password is not necessary
[06:31] <doors98> supefire: my ubuntu is working the past 1 week coz i jaz tried it, then this morning i tried to on but i receive many warnings with the last one
[06:31] <thesecondlaw> wine is crap for most games, unfortunatly
[06:31] <VistaUser> like i want the livux os of any source to be open
[06:31] <Guest34521> Did the new update update the kernel as well ?
[06:31] <VistaUser> and not like limited and basic progs
[06:31] <superfirelord42> thesecondlaw, yeah, its getting better....
[06:32] <paul68> what is the reason that in the following iptable script the ssh is not working? http://paste.ubuntu.com/77625/
[06:32] <ardchoille> Guest34521: yes, there was a kernel update today
[06:32] <superfirelord42> doors98, so did anything happen in that time?
[06:32] <Guest34521> ardchoille: from 27.8 to 27.9 ?
[06:32] <superfirelord42> doors98, hardware modification or an update or anything
[06:32] <ardchoille> Guest34521: yes
[06:32] <prodigrl> genii- works with easycam, cam does work but cant send live feeds with easycam, so how do i fix it with gyache - in lamens preferb, new here
[06:32] <ejer> VistaUser: there are hundreds of thousands of amazing programs, so specify what you are missing, and it is out there... games are a little thin, but lots of interesting stuff
[06:32] <Guest34521> ardchoille: no wonder, it deleted my r8187 driver
[06:32] <ardchoille> Guest34521:  2.6.27-9
[06:33] <doors98> supefire:its working just fine then and updated it successfuly
[06:33] <rmitchell> prodigrl: so you have it working in another program?
[06:33] <scunizi> VistaUser, livux?  what's available in ubuntu is pretty much all open unless you install binary drivers.  If you're adventurous enough you can download any source you want an compile, create a deb and install.. this is the same for most distributions.  What's limited about that?
[06:33] <prodigrl> rmitchell  yeah easycam
[06:33] <ardchoille> Guest34521: did you install that driver manually or from the repos?
[06:33] <superfirelord42> doors98, I know its annoying, but please use my full name, its hard to catch your messages... using the full name highlights it...
[06:33] <Guest34521> ardchoille: manually
[06:33] <VistaUser> i mean i want the best programs already installed with the os
[06:33] <ce_tembem> hy
[06:34] <VistaUser> and not have to find them
[06:34] <superfirelord42> doors98, had you rebooted after the install before it stopped working?
[06:34] <doors98> superfirelord42: ahh okey, sorry for that
[06:34] <ejer> !best | VistaUser
[06:34] <ardchoille> Guest34521: Any time you install a driver manually, you need to reinstall it if there is a kernel update
[06:34] <drog> your name would be "VistaUser"
[06:34] <ardchoille> VistaUser: no OS can do that
[06:34] <ejer> VistaUser: some people like linux-mint for pre-installed stuff
[06:34] <Guest34521> ardchoille: where can I check the logs for what they changed in the new kernel ?
[06:34] <ce_tembem> ????????
[06:34] <ardchoille> Guest34521: no idea :(
[06:35] <ce_tembem> hyhy
[06:35] <VistaUser> kk is there a site were there is terminal commands that i can input and it installs that os?
[06:35] <scunizi> VistaUser,  that's a very arbitrary statement.  most distributions preinstall what is most commonly used.. ubuntu has a huge amount of programs available through apt-get or synaptic.. more so than most other nix's.. you're comments are not really making sense.
[06:35] <ce_tembem> upi_lucu@yahoo.com
[06:35] <doors98> superfirelord42: ive been using it for i think 5 days, then didnt use it for 3 days i think, but when i tried to on this morning i receive that message, there are others prior to the last message
[06:35] <doors98> superfirelord42: here is one message BAD EIP value
[06:35] <fedealves> I need help installing an Ubunto 804 32 Bits Virtual machine under XEN, can pay via paypal
[06:35] <prodigrl> in setup shows /dev/video0 as the device   is the issue?
[06:35] <orgthingy> how do i remove tor/privoxy from startup ?
[06:36] <superfirelord42> doors98, you said it had taken an update though right? was it doing this after you rebooted after the update.
[06:36] <Guest34521> ardchoille: wow my system just froze
[06:36] <ejer> Guest34521: it is normal to have to reinstall kernel drivers after updating kernel, for those that are not automatically done
[06:36] <fedealves> please contact me at venefax@gmail.com
[06:36] <doors98> superfirelord42: no it worked just fine then
[06:36] <Jordan_U> Guest34521: Why do you want to know what changed, it doesn't matter what changed, any update that changes the ABI will require new modules, if those modules were installed via apt they will be updated automatically. If you installed them manually you need to recompile
[06:36] <VistaUser> lol ok i was trying to shorten my comment guess i got to strectch brb let me rephrase
[06:36] <superfirelord42> doors98, are you on the machine having trouble/
[06:36] <Guest34521> Jordan_U: tehre was a bug with mac8021
[06:37] <doors98> superfirelord42:nope, i'm on a windows machine, i cant boot on ubuntu
[06:37] <Guest34521> Jordan_U: also I wanted to know which modules they updated
[06:37] <superfirelord42> doors98, so you are on a different machine or the same machine on a dual booted windows?
[06:37] <Trashypatches> ejer: I did remove the nspluginwrapper and the flashplugin-nonfree before typing the sh libflashplayer.so , this still did not work
[06:37] <rmitchell> prodigrl: i can't find the program in the repo, so i can't really look to see how it wants settings
[06:38] <doors98> superfirelord42: i'm on a different machine
[06:38] <superfirelord42> doors98, ok, on the ubuntu machine, when the bootloader shows up, choose a different kernel.
[06:38] <ejer> Trashypatches: oh, I thought you had the installer, close firefox, and copy that file to a folder in ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[06:38] <doors98>  superfirelord42: how will i do that?
[06:38] <prodigrl> rmitchell  well thanks for looking, im kinda like fook it, just a damn cam and if thats my biggest prob with ubuntu then i think im god
[06:38] <prodigrl> good
[06:39] <superfirelord42> doors98, when you see grub, his the down arrow to choose a different line..
[06:39] <Trashypatches> ejer:  ok
[06:39] <doors98> superfirelord42: what is grub?
[06:40] <rmitchell> prodigrl, there should be some way to set it up, preferances or settings... maybe look in easycam's settings to see how they enter its location, etc, sorry i can't be of more help
[06:40] <prodigrl> ill send pics and vids with easycam, more work but im to lazy to fix it right now
[06:40] <prodigrl> rmitchell from what i can tell, easycam doenst send feeds, just records
[06:40] <superfirelord42> doors98, ok, nevermind about grub... when your machine starts, start hitting the down arrow untill you see a choice menue
[06:41] <prodigrl> i could be wrong but ran thro the whole prog and found nothing else
[06:41] <paul68> what is the reason that in the following iptable script the ssh is not working? http://paste.ubuntu.com/77625/
[06:41] <macvr> hi all.... i'm getting this error during startup.../var/run/network/ifstate read-only file system  is this normal? [i dont have the splash option turned on, so i could see that error]
[06:43] <rww> paul68: wow, nobody answered that question yet? Perhaps you could try somewhere dedicated to iptables support, like their mailing list ( http://www.netfilter.org/mailinglists.html ), since it doesn't look like you'll get an answer here...
[06:43] <adit> surabaya
[06:43] <doors98> superfirelord42:okey i'm waiting for the memory test to finish
[06:43] <scunizi> paul68, you might also try ##linux
[06:44] <superfirelord42> doors98, memory test?
[06:44] <ardchoille> I forget how to do a memory test
[06:44] <superfirelord42> doors98, memtest86+ or POST memory test?
[06:44] <RaNdY> how do i limit users to use "su" ?
[06:45] <superfirelord42> ardchoille, its actually not that hard, when you reboot, in the bootloader menu, choose memtest86
[06:45] <rww> ardchoille: reboot the computer and choose the memtest option on the boot menu
[06:45] <adit> ryfyfrggl
[06:45] <ardchoille> ah, that's right, thanks
[06:45] <rww> RaNdY: su or sudo? If you're using Ubuntu, it's recommended that you use the latter.
[06:45] <ardchoille> RaNdY: they shouldn't be able to su to root anyway because root is locked
[06:46] <dfgas> anyone have bluetooth problems? i can't not get my wii remote to even show in bluetooth devices. any ideas. it worked on 8.04
[06:46] <rww> RaNdY: If you need to edit sudo's configuration, you'll need to edit the sudoers file, which you can do with the "visudo" command
[06:46] <Lokin> Can someone help me with my Ubuntu 8.10 server?
[06:46] <RaNdY> thanks rww =)
[06:47] <superfirelord42> Lokin, you have to be more specific than that....
[06:47] <doors98> superfirelord42: memtest86+
[06:47] <Lokin> Lol. Ya was waiting for a reply before getting into it
[06:47] <rraj_be> http://pastebin.com/m61d13f51 any help please
[06:47] <doors98> superfirelord42: i pressed the esc key
[06:47] <rraj_be> i cant install gtk
[06:47] <Lokin> I need to make a restricted user
[06:47] <superfirelord42> doors98, ah, i see...
[06:47] <Lokin> that can run a whitelist of applications i say it can run
[06:47] <rww> Lokin: Possibly :). Go ahead and state your problem. There's also a dedicated Ubuntu server channel at, umm, #ubuntu-server I think?
[06:47] <doors98> superfirelord42: what will i select? recovery mode?
[06:47] <rww> Lokin: oops, never mind, you asked the question while i was typing ;-)
[06:48] <superfirelord42> doors98, if it took an update, you should have several linux options...
[06:48] <Lokin> not very server related
[06:48] <Lokin> just needs to be through command line
[06:48] <Lokin> no GUI thankfully
[06:48] <doors98> superfirelord42: oh, i only see 3 options and the last 1 is memtest.
[06:48] <Lokin> anyone?
[06:48] <superfirelord42> doors98, what are the other three?
[06:49] <superfirelord42> Lokin, a restricted user, you mean like without sudo access?
[06:49] <transporter> can somebody help me with compiz on hardy
[06:49] <rww> !ask | transporter
[06:49] <rww> transporter: and, if you don't get an answer here when you do ask your question, try #compiz-fusion
[06:49] <superfirelord42> Lokin, hold on, i may have something...
[06:49] <doors98> it is still ubuntu 8.04, the 1`st is standard 2nd is recovry mode and the 3rd is memtest
[06:49] <Lokin> N0t necessarily, I want them to only be able to run a few apps, Nmap, john ect
[06:50] <Guest34521> any good wireless connection programs except for wifi radar? my icon near the clock won't connect with my other usb device
[06:50] <rraj_be> http://pastebin.com/m61d13f51 any help please .....i cant instal gtk
[06:50] <Lokin> I know Nmap needs sudo so thats where I will get stuck after making the guest account
[06:50] <superfirelord42> doors98, hmm, so it did not take a kernel update...
[06:50] <rraj_be> http://pastebin.com/m61d13f51 any help please .....i cant instal gtk usser
[06:50] <superfirelord42> Lokin, so they need to access nmap?
[06:50] <superfirelord42> doors98, try recovery, see if it boots to a terminal...
[06:50] <Trashypatches> ejer: is there a command i can type into terminal to copy the flash into the mozilla/plugin file? I can not find where mozila/plugin file is
[06:50] <ganymede> hello, i was wondering if anyone knows a very fast bmp to png converted that achieves decent level-9 compression (i'll run them through optipng faster). i'm currently using imagemagick's convert, but since i have to convert about 45,000 BMP to PNG, i was wondering if there is some faster command-line program that does it faster or is specialized in this exact conversion
[06:51] <doors98> superfirelord42: yap maybe what i told you was minor updates
[06:51] <Lokin> yes but not have decent prvledges
[06:51] <ganymede> i'll run them through optipng later*
[06:51] <ashmew2> ganymede: GIMP! :P
[06:51] <rraj_be> http://pastebin.com/m61d13f51 any help please .....i cant instal gtk usser
[06:51] <ashmew2> rrat_be: what is gtk_usser?
[06:51] <superfirelord42> Lokin, so you can actually make sudo lists where certin user groups can access programs in sudo and others cannot...
[06:51] <Lokin> I want them to be COMPLETLY restriced to what i let them have
[06:51] <rww> Lokin: if i remember correctly, you should be able to specify in the sudoers file that X user should have admin access only for Y command
[06:52] <rww> Lokin: try man sudoers and see if there's something useful in there
[06:52] <rraj_be> sorry  . . .i am trying to install gtk
[06:52] <ganymede> ashmew2: thanks, i will do some preliminary benchmarking to verify whether it is faster than imagemagick's convert
[06:52] <rraj_be> but this is error i am getting
[06:52] <Lokin> I need the guest user and group first
[06:52] <Lokin> one sec
[06:52] <rraj_be> http://pastebin.com/m61d13f51
[06:52] <doors98> superfirelord42:it didnt boot, it game me the same error message or warning
[06:52] <Lokin> #HelpLokin
[06:53] <superfirelord42> doors98, hmm, what is the error right before the tried to kill idle? or line of text, what was it working on?
[06:53] <scunizi> rraj_be, have you tried installing it from synaptic?  much easier than trying to compile or use an outside source.
[06:53] <genii-around> Lokin: eg in sudoers, something like:    username ALL=NOPASSWD: /wherever/nmap
[06:53] <Lokin> ??
[06:53] <rraj_be> i cant find it there
[06:53] <Lokin> Wait what
[06:53] <ashmew2> rraj_be
[06:53] <superfirelord42> Lokin, and to alter privilages to get to files, you can set group and folders through chmod and chown
[06:53] <ashmew2> you have broken packages
[06:54] <ashmew2> sudo apt-get -f install
[06:54] <ashmew2> to install/remove anything , you must first have a NOT broken system
[06:54] <Lokin> I can't read al; these fast enough
[06:54] <Lokin> #helplokin
[06:54] <rraj_be> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 9 not upgraded.
[06:54] <rraj_be> raj@raj-desktop:~$
[06:54] <genii-around> Lokin: Best advice is to research how to make entries in sudoers which disallow or allow the commands you specify
[06:54] <superfirelord42> Lokin, hmm?
[06:54] <Lokin> ...
[06:55] <ashmew2> rraj_be: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:55] <Trashypatches> does anyone know where the firefox plugin files are located on the hard drive? I need to copy a file into the plugin area
[06:56] <doors98> superfirelord42: oh my! i even tried to reinstall but after i selected the language option it gave the same error, something like ubuntu functions _do path, alloc pages, _native load etc
[06:56] <rraj_be> its clean ashmew2
[06:56] <sparr> wish me luck on my first partial upgrade to jaunty
[06:56] <LF|Irssi>  ~/.mozilla/plugins i think
[06:56] <ashmew2> sparr: Jaunty isnt really broke
[06:56] <ashmew2> not until alpha 2
[06:56] <ashmew2> alpha 1 is more or less intrepid isnt it
[06:56] <ashmew2> no real differences
[06:56] <ashmew2> fun starts alpha 2
[06:57] <ashmew2> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=252762
[06:57] <ashmew2> check that rraj
[06:57] <Trashypatches> LF|Irssi: to copy my file can I do that through terminal?
[06:57] <sparr> ashmew2: real differences for me, some packages in intrepid with dependencies in jaunty
[06:57] <rraj_be> libgtk2.0-dev:
[06:57] <rraj_be>  Depends: libatk1.0-dev but it is not going to be installed  Depends: libcairo2-dev but it is not going to be installed  Depends: libglib2.0-dev but it is not  oing to be installed   Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (=2.12.9-3ubuntu2) but 2.12.9-3ubuntu4 is to be installed  Depends: libpango1.0-dev but it is not going to be installed
[06:57] <ashmew2> nice nice
[06:57] <LF|Irssi> Trashypatches: yep
[06:57] <ashmew2> trashypatches , use cp command
[06:57] <rraj_be> ashmew2:
[06:57] <ashmew2> Trashypatches: man cp
[06:57] <ashmew2> rraj_be , visit that link
[06:58] <pan> anyone here can help me with firefox32 flash sound on 64bit?
[06:58] <Sierradump> can somebody tell me how I find this directory:  ~/.mozilla/plugins
[06:58] <doors98> superfirelord42: i'l try go back to my pirated windows, i'l see if it is a hardware problem
[06:58] <ashmew2> open home dir
[06:58] <rraj_be> k
[06:58] <LF|Irssi> Trashypatches: something like cp /home/trashypatches/downloads /home/trashypatches/.mozilla/plugins  should do the trick
[06:58] <ashmew2> press CTRL+H
[06:58] <ashmew2> CTRL+H shows hidden dirs
[06:58] <ardchoille> Sierradump: ~ = /home/your-username
[06:58] <superfirelord42> doors98, hold on... that didnt answer my question
[06:58] <scunizi> !flash | pan
[06:58] <doors98> superfirelord42: okey
[06:58] <sparr> !xmms
[06:58] <sparr> :(
[06:59] <superfirelord42> doors98, was there any perceding errors before the last crash errror you gave earlier...
[06:59] <scunizi> use audacious.. recent fork of xmms
[06:59] <genii-around> sparr: Note that xmms2 exists
[06:59] <superfirelord42> sparr, i was sad to learn that too...
[06:59] <Sierradump> ardchoille:  when I browse to the home/myusername I don't see the /.mozilla folder?
[06:59] <Sierradump> do I have to enable hidden folders?
[06:59] <ashmew2> press ctrl G
[06:59] <ashmew2> ctrl H
[06:59] <doors98> superfirelord42: there are txt before that many txt, i'l try to see some
[06:59] <ashmew2> yes
[06:59] <^hush^> hi
[06:59] <Lokin> don't enable hidden folders
[06:59] <Lokin> That's a terrible idea
[06:59] <ashmew2> any dir with . in front is hidden folders
[06:59] <rraj_be> i cant get any help in that page ashmew2
[06:59] <ashmew2> no its not
[07:00] <Lokin> just do it via command line ls -an
[07:00] <Guest34521> Wireless in ubuntu sucks, rtl8187 doesn't see power for my Alfa 500mw, so if I install r8187, the drivers are so old that they suck so bad, so therefore no alternative for me, can anyone HELP ?
[07:00] <sparr> genii-around: why does everyone say that?  xmms2 and xmms have nothing to do with each other.
[07:00] <ashmew2> hmm  hold on rraj_be
[07:00] <superfirelord42> doors98, look for stuff that gives me an idea of what its working on when it crashes...
[07:00] <rraj_be> i just cant compile a gtk program
[07:00] <^hush^> i have a question.. I'm trying to install gnomad 2 in ubuntu and I cant undertsand the instructions
[07:00] <ashmew2> you fight be better off in the forums
[07:00] <ashmew2> migth*
[07:00] <Trashypatches> LF|Irssi: ok now to copy my flash file there will terminal open up the directory so I am able to drag and drop the file?
[07:00] <scunizi> Lokin, why not?  that just sound silly for your home directory.
[07:00] <rraj_be> finwe
[07:00] <Sierradump> got it thanks guys!
[07:00] <ashmew2> ! :D
[07:00] <pw-toxic> is there any reason to use xchat gnome instead of xchat?
[07:00] <Lokin> sounds*. To not show hidden files? It's a pain you have thousands of random folders
[07:00] <ashmew2> Lokin: Hidden Directories are there anyways and you can delete em
[07:00] <Lokin> I did it and undid it as fast as I could
[07:01] <superfirelord42> pw-toxic, i assume one is made to work better with gnome...
[07:01] <ashmew2> lol
[07:01] <rraj_be> but its late than in irc
[07:01] <^hush^> Can somebody tell me how to " navigate to directory with file'?
[07:01] <LF|Irssi> no for drag and drop you'll need a filemanager like Dolphin, Nautilus i believe
[07:01] <scunizi> pw-toxic, no.. xchat is more complete
[07:01] <ashmew2> hish
[07:01] <ashmew2> hush be specific
[07:01] <ashmew2> !
[07:01] <LF|Irssi> you cant do drag n drop from terminal
[07:01] <ashmew2> you can use cp
[07:01] <pw-toxic> scunizi: i think i will use xchat then ;)
[07:01] <^hush^> yes ashmew?
[07:01] <doors98> 34.xxxxxx - _alloc pages 0X060X0 something like hexa decimals then 34.xxxxx - _native load 656X09580X etc
[07:01] <Trashypatches> LF|Irssi: ok, does cp stand for control panel?
[07:01] <^hush^> ashmew2: what's cp?
[07:01] <LF|Irssi> no
[07:01] <Guest34521> Wireless PROBLEM in ubuntu , rtl8187 doesn't see power for my Alfa 500mw, so if I install r8187, the drivers are so old that they suck so bad, so therefore no alternative for me, can anyone HELP ?
[07:02] <LF|Irssi> cp = copy
[07:02] <Trashypatches> ok
[07:02] <LF|Irssi> mv = move or rename
[07:02] <scunizi> Lokin, unless you're not a command line persons and are stuck using the gui.. then the only time you unhide folders is to find something specific.. then like you said.  you turn them off right away..
[07:02] <rraj_be> ashmew2:  any idea in compiling first program ihere http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk-tutorial/stable/c39.html
[07:02] <dirtydave> hey guys I'm needing some info on surround sound issues in ubuntu.
[07:02] <^hush^> anyway, i have downloaded gnomad2 but i dont know how to install it. Please help!
[07:03] <genii-around> sparr: xmms2 is a rewrite
[07:03] <superfirelord42> ^hush^, is it by any chance a .deb file?
[07:03] <Znurf> I need help configuring raid 0 when installing / setting up partitions in the latest ubuntu server installer :(
[07:03] <scunizi> ^hush^, gnomad2 is in the repos.. just use synaptic to install
[07:03] <Znurf> I have installed it several times and it always ends with the blinking "_" after installation is completed, cd has been removed and system rebooted
[07:04] <superfirelord42> doors98, I may have found something, I will be right back...
[07:04] <sparr> genii-around: it is also nothing like xmms.  it doesnt do the same things.  completely non-applicable to anyone who misses xmms
[07:04] <paul68> rww: is there a channel for iptables?
[07:04] <doors98> superfirelord42: thanks, i'l wait then
[07:04] <^hush^> ﻿scunizi: I don'y know where synaptic is...
[07:04] <dirtydave> is ther a movie player that will use the surround channels in ubuntu?
[07:05] <scunizi> ^hush^, System>Admin>Synpatic Package manager
[07:05] <erpo> I need a pdf reader that will show me a table of contents for PDFs that have a ToC. Document Viewer isn't doing it for me. Suggestions?
[07:05] <superfirelord42> doors98, similar issue has a kernel work around by adding idle=poll on the kernel command line... i would need to walk you through it, or someone else, but I have to do something very quickly
[07:05] <genii-around> sparr: They are radically different, yes.
[07:05] <scunizi> erpo, doc viewer might if you look in the View menu and the options available.
[07:05] <sparr> genii-around: so then what use is mentioning xmms2 when someone brings up the removal of xmms?
[07:05] <doors98> superfirelord42: it's okey i'l wait, thanks
[07:06] <Headbanger> Could someone help me on how to connect to #kde on IRC chat
[07:06] <erpo> scunizi: Found it. Thanks!
[07:06] <sparr> genii-around: "oh, your sword is broken?  here's a fish."
[07:06] <scunizi> erpo, np
[07:06] <LF|Irssi> Headbanger: just type /join #KDE
[07:06] <dirtydave> is ther a movie player that will use the surround channels in ubuntu?
[07:06] <sparr> dirtydave: mplayer
[07:06] <^hush^> ﻿scunizi: Ok, i found it, what do i do next?
[07:07] <dirtydave> do you know of a good interface to be using?
[07:07] <paul68> is there a specific channel for iptables?
[07:07] <scunizi> ^hush^, right mouse click it and choose install.. then click the apply button at the top
[07:07] <microlith> is there a way to force the default resolution that gdm uses to be something higher than 800x600?
[07:07] <Dark-K> hi every one
[07:07] <meestahp> hello
[07:08] <drog> * Cannot join #ubuntu-offtopic (You are banned).
[07:08] <drog> sup guys
[07:08] <drog> !help
[07:09] <^hush^> scunizi There are 2 gnomes? and I could not do a right mouse click....
[07:09] <scunizi> ^hush^, try just clicking on it.. it should offer options
[07:10] <greghere> after auto updates Ubuntu 8.04 wont show desktp? anyway to do a repair?
[07:10] <^hush^> scunizi: There are a lot of packages.... I don't know which one to select :(
[07:10] <ashmew2> greghere: Press ALT F2 and enter gconf-editor and press enter
[07:11] <macvr> hi all.... ever since i upgraed to intrepid my font viewer doesnt work? i get this error >>>Failed to execute child process "gnome-font-viewer" (No such file or directory)  <<< how do i correct this?
[07:11] <scunizi> ^hush^, you're looking for gnomad2 right?  when I searched (Hardy install) I came up with only one reference.. did you search?
[07:11] <ashmew2> !pm
[07:11] <greghere> I would if I could but all I get is a light grey screen :(
[07:11] <ashmew2> oh..
[07:11] <scunizi> ^hush^, as for installing.. just click normally on the check box for the submenu
[07:12] <ashmew2> greghere
[07:12] <ashmew2> are you using NVIDIA/ATI card
[07:12] <Dark-K> alguien habla espanol
[07:12] <ashmew2> !en
[07:12] <rraj_be> how it shud be pronounced "Widget"
[07:12] <rraj_be> is it like vidg get
[07:12] <ashmew2> Widge-et
[07:12] <ashmew2> vij-et
[07:12] <LF|Irssi> light grey screen? sounds like xfce
[07:12] <FAJ> !ot
[07:12] <scunizi> rraj_be, vidg et
[07:12] <ashmew2> rraj_be its vij-et
[07:13] <greghere> Ashmew2
[07:13] <ashmew2> ?
[07:13] <doors98> how can i change my workgroupname in smb.conf so that it will be the same with windows workgroup?
[07:13] <rraj_be> thanks ashmew2  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6266656#post6266656
[07:13] <ashmew2> rraj_be dont mention it! :D
[07:13] <rraj_be> fine Ash
[07:13] <rraj_be> ashmew2:
[07:14] <drog> doors98, with nano, gedit, any other editor, or just install swat
[07:14] <FAJ> doors98: it's in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[07:14] <ashmew2> yes
[07:14] <scunizi> doors98, ubuntu I think defaults to "workgroup" .. might be easier to change the windows machine..
[07:14] <rraj_be> any help here please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6266642#post6266642
[07:14] <ashmew2> rraj_be i knew i had seen yoou before on the forums.. :D
[07:14] <FAJ> scunizi:  no it's really easy to do in samba
[07:14] <rraj_be> fine . . .where are you in india
[07:14] <rraj_be> ashmew2:
[07:14] <scunizi> FAJ, glad you know how.. samba always gives me issues.. arg.
[07:15] <ashmew2> yes rraj_be
[07:15] <doors98> i already opened the smb.conf, is the default workgroup name inside the conf?
[07:15] <drog> scunizi, swat it
[07:15] <ashmew2> im in MP
[07:15] <Lokin> what GID would a guest account have?
[07:15] <ashmew2> Madhya Pradesh
[07:15] <FAJ> doors98:  yes it is very near the top
[07:15] <dfgas> hmmm, thinking about downgrading the tv computer to 8.04 because bluetooth don't work. seems to be a big problem with 8.10
[07:15] <FAJ> scunizi: ya i just live with it ;)
[07:15] <scunizi> drog, ah.. that was the program I was trying to remember.
[07:15] <DarkKnight> hey i m not able to install drupal
[07:15] <doors98> FAJ:thanks, i' try to lool for it
[07:16] <Guest34521> Wireless PROBLEM in ubuntu , rtl8187 doesn't see power for my Alfa 500mw (mac8021 bug), so if I install r8187, the drivers are so old that they suck so bad, can anyone HELP ?
[07:16] <DarkKnight> hey i m not able to install drupal...help me install it for my project
[07:16] <FAJ> doors98:  ok if you can't find it come back
[07:16] <LF|Irssi> This is not a drupal support channel DarkKnight , try #Drupal or maybe #CMS
[07:16] <ashmew2> rraj_be , tried sudo aptitude install -f ?
[07:16] <^hush^> scunizi: How do i do a search?
[07:16] <ronhalfdanr> anyone know why vmware and firefox can't find 127.0.0.1:8333?
[07:17] <rraj_be> yeah
[07:17] <rraj_be> its jsut clean
[07:17] <greghere> how do i repair ubuntu 8.04?
[07:17] <scunizi> ^hush^, there's a search button at the top of the box for synaptic..
[07:17] <FAJ> greghere:  what is wrong?
[07:18]  * microlith yanks the cord on his ubuntu box
[07:18] <ashmew2> greghere: Do you have an NVIDIA card ?
[07:18] <pan> alsamixer only has master volume setting?
[07:18] <greghere> I did some updates and was asked to restart, now my desktop is totally blank.
[07:18] <HRshovinstuff> I'm going to cry....I updated to 8.10 and now my nvidia card wont' initialize
[07:18] <greghere> ashmew2, no, it is ATI
[07:18] <FAJ> HRshovinstuff: ya you need to read release notes before doing that; nvidia will come out with it soon
[07:19] <ashmew2> HRshovinstuff: tried Restricted drivers Manager ?
[07:19] <ronhalfdanr> HRshovinstuff: you have redownload the nvidia driver
[07:19] <pan> in 8.04 i had more options but since upgrade to 8.10 my alsamixer only has master volume
[07:19] <HRshovinstuff> ashmew2: yes I have tried seveal times
[07:19] <ashmew2> greghere: You might have a bad driver...get envy on the broken system
[07:19] <HRshovinstuff> ronhalfdanr: yes i've done that
[07:19] <greghere> Funny I can rotate  the desktop (compiz) but all light grey?
[07:19] <ronhalfdanr> anyone know why today's update killed vmware and won't let firefox connect to 127.0.0.1:8333?
[07:20] <superfirelord42> doors98, are you still there?
[07:20] <meestahp> HRshovinstuff: have you tried getting all updates? i had a similar problem with the restricted driver not staying selected
[07:20] <scunizi> ronhalfdanr, did the update include a new kernel?
[07:20] <ronhalfdanr> I had no problem with it HRshovinstuff when I went to 8.10
[07:20] <greghere> ashmew2, yes but my desktop is totally blank!!
[07:20] <ronhalfdanr> yes it did scunizi
[07:20] <FAJ> meestahp:   HRshovinstuff thinking of it; i had the same issue.
[07:20] <doors98> FAJ: can't fine it, there's too many txt,
[07:20] <scunizi> ronhalfdanr, you have to recompile vmware with each new kernel..
[07:20] <TheCollective> Hey everybody, my sound won't work with xubuntu 8.10.....I have an IBM R40e laptop....where can I get the ubuntu drivers for my onboard sound card?
[07:20] <HRshovinstuff> meestahp: plz enlighten me i speak geek very well
[07:20] <FAJ> doors98:  it is like the first option at the top
[07:21] <ikonia> scunizi: vmware is not open source
[07:21] <ikonia> scunizi: you can't recompil eit
[07:21] <doors98> superfirelord42:yap, i was asking for another problem,
[07:21] <superfirelord42> FAJ, are you walking him through it?
[07:21] <norin> hey guys . . . can anyone help with problems with a distr. upgrade
[07:21] <ronhalfdanr> crap, you meana  complete reinstall scunizi?
[07:21] <superfirelord42> oh...
[07:21] <Znurf> When setting up a RAID0 should i make 2 partitions on each disk, one for swap and one for ext3? and should they be used as "physical volume for raid"? or something else?
[07:21] <FAJ> [global]  ## Browsing/Identification ###   # Change this to the workgroup/NT-domain name your Samba server will part of
[07:21] <FAJ>    workgroup = TEST
[07:21] <ikonia> Znurf: you can't boot from raid 0
[07:21] <Znurf> ikonia so i cant make a OS disk with raid0?
[07:21] <meestahp> System>administration>update manager
[07:22] <HRshovinstuff> FAJ: anything u can suggest?
[07:22] <ikonia> Znurf: yes, you can you need a seperate /boot partition though
[07:22] <ikonia> Znurf: I would strongly advise against useing raid 0 though
[07:22] <superfirelord42> doors98, tell me when you are free to try the kernel parameter...
[07:22] <greghere> I have Ubuntu installed on / partition and home on /home. Can I just reinstall ubuntu on / ??
[07:22] <doors98> FAJ: i' PM u later i'm asking superfirelord42 for another bigger problem of mine on my ubuntu machine
[07:22] <meestahp> after it was done just tried selecting the driver and it worked..
[07:22] <ronhalfdanr> Znurf: most stable option is small OS dedicated drive and RAID the data drives
[07:22] <Znurf> ikonia do i gaint any performance at all (except safety) from RAID1?
[07:22] <FAJ> HRshovinstuff:  no b/c i haven't upgraded to 8.10 yet ;)  i like my lts
[07:22] <scunizi> ikonia, you're right.. ronhalfdanr there is a command for vmware.. sudo ./vmware-config.pl  .. but I can't remember where the directory is.. it will run through the install again and redo the kernel mods.. all your data will be safe.. just use the defaults for the questions it asks.
[07:22] <FAJ> doors98:  ok
[07:22] <doors98> superfirelord42:right now i'm free
[07:22] <HRshovinstuff> everything was perfect  :'(
[07:22] <ikonia> Znurf: no, but you won't really gain any performance from raid 0 either
[07:22] <Znurf> ronhalfdanr i got 2 200gb disks i plan to use for OS only, i want more performance from them
[07:22] <superfirelord42> doors98, ok, get to the os menu list then ping me.... this is going to be a bit of a rough walk though...
[07:23] <genii-around> Znurf: PErhaps you are confusing raid0 with raid1
[07:23] <TheCollective> anybody got any ideas how I can get my sound to work on my IBM R40e Laptop?  I have xubuntu 8.10....sorry if you saw my earlier post and are working on the problem already
[07:23] <doors98> superfirelord42:having a cup of tea on my computer shop
[07:23] <HRshovinstuff> BRB
[07:23] <Znurf> no genii raid0 is work from both without backup, raid1 is mirror
[07:23] <doors98> superfirelord42:how do i do that
[07:23] <superfirelord42> doors98, ? I would go for coffee at this time of night....
[07:23] <Znurf> ikonia are you sure? i thought you would get faster accesstimes when you have two drives getting data instead of one
[07:23] <ikonia> Znurf: 1.) raid 0 won't give you any real performance gains, 2.) what type of raid are you using Linux softrware raid or fake raid
[07:24] <ikonia> Znurf: your on home hardware yes ?
[07:24] <superfirelord42> doors98, ok, the same menu where you had memtest and linux and recovery, i need you to get back to that menu...
[07:24] <scunizi> ronhalfdanr, it's in /usr/bin
[07:24] <Znurf> ikonia yes i am
[07:24] <genii-around> Znurf: OK, not confused then. But since raid0 makes 2 drives into 1 continuous drive, after which you partition, your earlier Q of whether to make 2 partitions on each individual drive makes not much sense
[07:24] <ikonia> Znurf: you won't get anything you notice, and you will increase the risk quite high
[07:24] <Znurf> ikonia i dont know if its rake raid or not, im just trying to use the built in raid thing in the ubuntu server installer
[07:24] <greghere> Can I repair ubuntu 8.04 with a "live cd"??
[07:24] <ikonia> Znurf: your using ubuntu server ?
[07:24] <Znurf> yes ikonia
[07:25] <ikonia> Znurf: what are you doing with this machine ?
[07:25] <ronhalfdanr> scunizi: so it would be /usr/bin./vmare-config.pl ?
[07:25] <ikonia> whats the end goal I mean
[07:25] <FAJ> greghere:  'repair' is a bleak word.  details can normally get it fixed better than just reinstalling
[07:25] <Znurf> ikonia fileserver, webserver, ftp server
[07:25] <scunizi> ronhalfdanr, sudo /usr/bin./vmware-config.pl
[07:25] <ronhalfdanr> Znurf: to enhance performance on the OS drive get a raptor or better from WD for the OS and use the other for data
[07:25] <norin> why do i get "assistive technology not loaded"  message when logging on
[07:25] <doors98> superfirelord42:already in there but how can i manipulate it, its up and down arrow option only
[07:25] <ikonia> Znurf: so why do you need high IO accesss ?
[07:25] <greghere> FAJ, Yes, but not easy when you dont know :(
[07:26] <scunizi> ronhalfdanr, if that does't work just cd to the directory and sudo ./vmware-config.pl
[07:26] <FAJ> greghere:  so you have done some updates correct?
[07:26] <FAJ> greghere: like today?
[07:26] <greghere> FAJ, yes
[07:26] <Znurf> ronhalfdanr i dont need the 200gbs for more data, they are spares, i dont want to buy another disk when i got several hundred gigs leftover
[07:26] <superfirelord42> doors98, highlight the first option and hit e on your keyboad
[07:27] <Znurf> ikonia because... i dont know :D
[07:27] <FAJ> greghere:  ok so what i am guessing happened is that the new kernel messed you over, reboot ubuntu, and when grub comes up, select the next kernel down.
[07:27] <FAJ> and see if that works
[07:27] <ronhalfdanr> lol Znurf I'm running 2TB data stack now so I use a separate small OS drive
[07:27] <greghere> FAJ, now i log on and my desktop is totally blank
[07:27] <Znurf> i guess i can use RAID1 instead, if thats easier
[07:27] <microlith> is there any way to get a wifi adaptor to associate with a wpa2 protected access point without using gdm and silly gnome applets?
[07:27] <ikonia> Znurf: ok, so just lay your disks out in a sensible way, use ubuntu desktop install so that it suites your hardware better
[07:27] <FAJ> greghere:  try a different kernel
[07:27] <ikonia> Znurf: it's not easier, its teh same
[07:27] <Znurf> Ronald i got about the same amount of space, and im planning to run my 2x200 gb as OS disk :P
[07:27] <ikonia> Znurf: raid has a purpose, you deploy what you need or want, not what is easier
[07:27] <greghere> FAJ, There is no grub menu, its the only os on the comp
[07:28] <FAJ> greghere:  there is still a grub menu you just went through an update of a kernel; and the new kernel doesn't like you; in GRUB switch to the next lowest kernel
[07:28] <Znurf> ikonia but raid1 will give me safety though, my last system krashed, so maybe its better to have raid1 then, if its true what you say and raid0 wont give me any more performance
[07:28] <ikonia> Znurf: depends on your needs, it really does
[07:29] <greghere> As i said ther is no grub menu to select a kernel?
[07:29] <FAJ> yes there is; there always is one.
[07:29] <superfirelord42> doors98, what happened?
[07:29] <meestahp> Faj maybe his boot menu is disabled in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:29] <doors98> superfirelord42:i got disconnected
[07:29] <FAJ> meestahp: grahh, good point
[07:29] <Znurf> ikonia my needs are nothing really, i mean i just think its "cool" to have raid on the server
[07:30] <superfirelord42> doors98, ok, highlight the ubuntu entry and hit e on your keyboard
[07:30] <FAJ> greghere: boot in livecd, open up /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:30] <shovi> Why doesnt Kate save the layout when I close it... When I re-open it, its all plain again, no plugins/extensions/tabs/terminal....
[07:30] <ikonia> Znurf: then thats a crazy reason for using it and wasting disk
[07:30] <FAJ> meestahp:  can you help him out in that area; i've never had to disable my brub...
[07:30] <superfirelord42> doors98, ?
[07:30] <superfirelord42> did you get my instructions?
[07:30] <doors98> superfirelord42:i got disconnected
[07:30] <superfirelord42> doors98, did you get my instructions though?
[07:30] <ikonia> Znurf: also because you on home hardware I would strongly advise you to use the desktop install to better work on your hardware
[07:30] <FAJ> greghere:  know that there is always a way to fix ubuntu
[07:31] <Znurf> ikonia its not wasting disk really, as i said if i dont use it for this it will be put in a box and stored cause i got no use for it :P
[07:31] <greghere> FAJ, thanks for your help, but I have to go :(
[07:31] <scunizi> FAJ meestahp how bout just ctrl+alt+f2 for a different TTY and fix it from there.
[07:31] <FAJ> o ok.
[07:31] <superfirelord42> doors98, ok, highlight the ubuntu entry and hit e on your keyboard
[07:31] <FAJ> scunizi:  he says that it doesn't even show up... that's what gets me.
[07:31] <FAJ> greghere:  you are very close to fixing it.
[07:31] <greghere> FAJ, Easy if you know how?
[07:32] <FAJ> greghere:  it is a pretty basic function; you are getting very close.
[07:32] <scunizi> FAJ, but you don't need a live cd to fix it.. just a different tty ..
[07:32] <guest999> why do i get "assistive technology not loaded"  message when logging on
[07:32] <doors98> superfirelord42:my golly, it went staight to the same error msgs. i even repeatedly hit the e key just to make sure
[07:32] <superfirelord42> ?
[07:32] <ikonia> Znurf: do what you wish then
[07:32] <meestahp> greghere: Ah you press escape as you re booting to see teh menu!
[07:32] <greghere> FAJ, I'll try again later, I dont want to ruin it completely.
[07:32] <FAJ> scunizi:  i thought he said it doesn't even boot though?
[07:32] <superfirelord42> e was not supposed to make it boot...
[07:32] <FAJ> greghere:  ok just come back.
[07:32] <greghere> Thanks
[07:32] <superfirelord42> doors98, strange, e is not supposed to make it boot
[07:33] <FAJ> scunizi:  it sounds more like a kernel incompatability, therefore he wouldn't be able to to get to that point w/o switching kernels, which he can't do if grub is disabled.
[07:33] <Znurf> ikonia but i guess since you all hate me now i wont get any help and i cant fix this myself i'll just run it as you said with 1 disk
[07:33] <scunizi> FAJ, I thought it was just a blank screen on boot.. I could be wrong.. didn't see the first part of the conversation.. if the gui doesn't load then a tty typically will work
[07:33] <superfirelord42> doors98, go back to the menu... on the bottem, what does it say your choices are, i know it has c for command line, what else?
[07:33] <scunizi> FAJ, true.. then a live cd would be the right path
[07:33] <HRshovinstuff> I updated to 8.10 and my nvidia drivers will not initiate.  What can i Do???
[07:33] <doors98> superfirelord42:wait, am i doing it right
[07:33] <ronhalfdanr> scunizi: thanks, it's up and running now
[07:33] <FAJ> scunizi:  ya sorry we were going off of two different impressions.  we would have to get more details than what he gave us,
[07:33] <meestahp> Faj, like you said brug is never disabled, but they have added a hiddenmenu option with the new release
[07:34] <FAJ> i was just going to take the safest path, so it would totally work.
[07:34] <scunizi> ronhalfdanr, great.. :)
[07:34] <FAJ> meestahp:  eww that's scary'
[07:34] <doors98> superfirelord42:before ubuntu boots, what will i press?
[07:34] <meestahp> FAJ, grub, excuse men
[07:34] <meestahp> me*
[07:34] <FAJ> it's all good lol
[07:34] <ronhalfdanr> Znurf: nobody hates you, we just think adding unstable complexity is beyond silly
[07:34] <meestahp> ## hiddenmenu
[07:34] <meestahp> # Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)
[07:34] <meestahp> hiddenmenu
[07:34] <HRshovinstuff> is there a way to roll back to 8.04?
[07:34] <superfirelord42> doors98, down arrow
[07:35] <superfirelord42> doors98, what options do you have?
[07:35] <ikonia> Znurf: no one hates you, what are you talking about ?
[07:35] <FAJ> HRshovinstuff: not sure... but i would try googling if you don't get a definitive answer
[07:36] <doors98> superfirelord42:wait pls be patient on me, i just billed a customer
[07:36] <Znurf> Is it possible to make a JBOD disk out of 3 disks without formatting 1 of them then?
[07:37] <pan> !help
[07:37] <ronhalfdanr> I run RAID 1 only because I do have close to TB of data and there's no other efficient way to back it up zn
[07:37] <pan> !download
[07:37] <doors98> superfirelord42:thanks for waiting
[07:37] <ronhalfdanr> I'm about to add another 2TB to the stack
[07:37] <superfirelord42> doors98, i am, although understand, its late here so I am actually staying awake to wrap this up.
[07:37] <ikonia> Znurf: what are you talking about, using raid means you don't format any of the disks
[07:37] <pan> happy thanksgiving everyone
[07:39] <genii-around> ikonia: This is what confused me earlier about his Q on raid
[07:39] <Znurf> ikonia but when setting up the raid you usually have to format it, and when you make a JBOD you take x amount of drives and make them into 1, but maybe im wrong, but when making raid1 and 0 you have to format them before, or atleast whatever data you have on them before will be lost
[07:39] <doors98> superfirelord42:really! i appreciate it much, it says GRUB is loading press ESC .. then i pressed the arrow key many times and it went to the error msgs again
[07:39] <ikonia> Znurf: no you don't format the drives
[07:39] <ikonia> Znurf: you format the meta devices - not the physical drives
[07:39] <superfirelord42> doors98, basicly, we need to alter the commands... i just wish i remembered the keypresses....
[07:39] <Znurf> okay ikonia i dont even know what that means hehe
[07:39] <rraj_be> any help here please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=995662
[07:40] <doors98> superfirelord42:if i press the ESC, then it will show the 3 options,
[07:40] <ronhalfdanr> most drives already come low level preformatted now Znurf. linux does not do the high level format like windows
[07:40] <ikonia> !away > scully|away
[07:40] <rraj_be> any help here please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=995662
[07:40] <jhenisethe4th> can anyone help me enable xgl graphics?
[07:40] <superfirelord42> doors98, yes, what keys does it say you can use at the bottem?
[07:40] <superfirelord42> read the botten below your options...
[07:41] <asdf1234> hello, I'm a newbie to ubuntu. I have a laptop that doesn't have network access (wireless nor wired) and I need to somehow have all the "essential packages" that get installed by running the command "sudo apt-get install build-essential" ---- I have another laptop with internet access and ALSO one on which i've already run this command. How can I zip up all the ?packages? that get installed from that command so that I may
[07:41] <Taejo> I'm having trouble with recording audio: gtkguitune (guitar tuner) picks up my mic and works fine, but neither ekiga or audacity pick up any audio
[07:41] <doors98> superfirelord42:will i select the generic  which is number 1 and press e?
[07:41] <ronhalfdanr> well time to work............y'all have fun
[07:41] <superfirelord42> doors98, yes.
[07:42] <superfirelord42> doors98, it should give you a list of commands it can do right?
[07:43] <superfirelord42> what is with all these flood bots doing stuff?!?
[07:43] <doors98> superfirelord42: im a dumb fool, the instructions are even at the bottom, i thought i will press enter and press e
[07:43] <Znurf> Oh okay, im used to windows so thats why i thougyht you had to format ikonia
[07:43] <superfirelord42> doors98, no problem, this is a part of linux that is very hard to work with... it does not interact hte way you would think all the time...
[07:43] <superfirelord42> doors98, select the line that says kernel....
[07:43] <superfirelord42> doors98, what command edits that line?
[07:44] <doors98> superfirelord42: yap i pressd e and i see some choices
[07:44] <doors98> superfirelord42:i need to go back and forth to the machine and here, sorry to keepp you waiting
[07:44] <superfirelord42> doors98, no prob.
[07:45] <doors98> superfirelord42:after i select the kernel what will i press?
[07:45] <superfirelord42> doors98, which one is for edit the line? i dont remember which letter
[07:45] <rww> superfirelord42: e, if i remember correctly
[07:45] <rraj_be> when i open trash folder under sudo nautilus . . .my syste,m just hang on ..
[07:45] <rraj_be> i have to restart
[07:45] <rraj_be> can any one help me
[07:46] <asdf1234> Help please?      How do I "zip up" all the packages/files that get installed when I run the command "sudo apt-get install build-essential" ??
[07:46] <tripitakit> rraj_be, do you have something you want to save from the trash?
[07:46] <superfirelord42> rww, that would make sense, but it says at the bottem, i would rather him just read it than guess...
[07:46] <ikonia> asdf1234: you don't do that, they are installed
[07:46] <FAJ> asdf1234: go to packages.ubuntu.com
[07:46] <asdf1234> so that I may install them elsewhere, on a different computer.
[07:46] <doors98> superfirelord42: e to edit the command line in the boot sequence, is this the one?
[07:46] <FAJ> and find the packages?
[07:46] <rraj_be> nbo
[07:46] <rraj_be> i want to empty it tripitakit
[07:46] <ikonia> !aptoncd > asdf1234
[07:47] <superfirelord42> doors98, yup... rww was right...
[07:47]  * superfirelord42 gives rww a cookie
[07:47]  * rww om nom nom
[07:47] <tripitakit> rraj_be, so try deleting its content form the terminal then see if it opens in nautilus
[07:47] <rraj_be> how to do that tripitakit
[07:47] <rraj_be> how can i specify location of trash in terminal
[07:47] <rww> rraj_be: rm -r ~/.local/share/Trash
[07:48] <asdf1234> cool...thanks ubottu/ikonia/FAJ, let me go try it out.
[07:48] <rraj_be> i want to empty trash of root
[07:49] <ikonia> rraj_be: /root/.local/share/Trash
[07:49] <doors98> superfirelord42:before we continue, strange why is it that i can't even do another fresh install on ubuntu on that machine?
[07:49] <jhenisethe4th> does anyone know how to help me enable xgl graphics?
[07:49] <superfirelord42> doors98, probably something with a ram chip is a bit out of sync. i have seen before switching which chip is where sometimes fixes it.... you can try that, but lets try this first...
[07:50] <tripitakit> rraj_be, type cd .local/share/Trash and inspect it with a "ls -a" command
[07:50] <superfirelord42> doors98, at the end of the line.... enter idle=poll and press enter.. then press b
[07:50] <rraj_be> thanks ikonia
[07:50] <rraj_be> k
[07:50] <tripitakit> rraj_be, then if you wanto to delete all just type "rm -r *"
[07:50] <rraj_be> ok
[07:50] <rraj_be> i want to delet only trashed data
[07:51] <rraj_be> any help here please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=995662 tripitakit  ikonia
[07:52] <pan> i've installed alsa-oss but no avail to getting flash sound on firefox32?
[07:52] <rww> rraj_be: what version of ubuntu are you using? (8.10/intrepid, 8.04/hardy, etc.)
[07:53] <doors98> superfirelord42:i did that and it starts to say loading... and the screen went blank
[07:53] <superfirelord42> doors98, give it a bit... i may have you go back, do it again, and remove quiet and splash
[07:54] <doors98> superfirelord42:i'l do it again and remove the word quiet and splash?
[07:54] <superfirelord42> doors98, yes please... and make sure to add idle=poll at the end...
[07:54] <serena> I just installed Intrepid on my HP laptop and for some reason the ATI driver will not activate
[07:55] <ikonia> serena: ati driver support on linux is a real isue
[07:55] <ikonia> issue
[07:55] <serena> ikonia: has never been an issue with Hardy
[07:55] <rraj_be> 8.04 rww
[07:55] <ikonia> serena: new kernel, new drivers
[07:55] <meestahp> Serena, i had teh same issue... I did a full update then tried it again... did it for me
[07:56] <serena> meestahp: did what again?
[07:56] <serena> meestahp: I just did a fresh install
[07:56] <meestahp> Went to update manager
[07:56] <meestahp> and installed all updates
[07:56] <rww> rraj_be: Have you done apt-get update recently? If so, try apt-get -f install. If that doesn't work, copy the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to paste.ubuntu.com and link
[07:56] <rraj_be> yeah . . .i tried all
[07:57] <benoka> my USB wireless card connects to the router but to the internet, no filter setup on the router whatsoever, other computers and other cards of the same computer connect ok
[07:57] <ikonia> benoka: check your card got an ip
[07:58] <mib_yb3zoy> hi, i'd like to use my modem in ubuntu. do you think it's better to use ibex (since a friend of mine said that ibex improved in networking)?
[07:58] <rraj_be> here it is rww  http://pastebin.com/me279719
[07:58] <doors98> superfirelord42:fatal error, not syncing in interrupt, and the keyboar light of scroll and caps lock are blinking
[07:58] <superfirelord42> doors98, but it has alot more text though this time?
[07:58] <serena> this is so weird ... I am obviously online but Synaptic thinks there is no internet ...
[07:58] <serena> whats going on
[07:59] <doors98> superfirelord42:yap
[07:59] <superfirelord42> doors98, wait, does it still say attempted to kill idle task?
[07:59] <serena> meestahp: I cannot even get the updates because Synaptic think I am offline
[07:59] <genii-around> serena: Did you have the internet connected when it tried to find the repositories during the install?
[07:59] <mib_yb3zoy> anyone? :)
[07:59] <mib_yb3zoy> anyone? :)
[07:59] <doors98> superfirelord42:no more but the keyboar led of scroll and caps lock are blinking and the screen is blank
[08:00] <serena> genii-around: no but it never mattered in the past
[08:00] <N-A> Hello, I have a problem mounting a drive (ntfs-3g) I get the message that I must be root to mount xxx in yyy, this is one of several ntfs partitions, the rest mount fine.
[08:00] <FAJ> doors98: that sounds like mobo/RAM errors
[08:00] <superfirelord42> doors98, screen is blank?
[08:00] <ikonia> mib_yb3zoy: saying anyone is pointless, if no-one saw your question, anyone won't let them see it, if no-one knows the answer saying anyone won't make them know the answer
[08:00] <rww> rraj_be: What's with the eeePC repositories? If you're just using stock Ubuntu Hardy, even on an eeePC, you shouldn't need those, and they might conflict with Ubuntu's repositories.
[08:00] <superfirelord42> FAJ, yeah, thats what I am thinking...
[08:00] <serena> genii-around: and it did not matter on another machine with install Intrepid without internet connection
[08:00] <benoka> ikonia: yes, it got an IP
[08:00] <genii-around> serena: Is it stalling at CD or timing out or so trying to reach repo online?
[08:00] <rraj_be> ok
[08:00] <doors98> superfirelord42:yap screen is blank
[08:01] <Arney15> My left speaker got cough syrup in it and now doesn't work... How do I set my Stereo speakers to Mono in Ubuntu?
[08:01] <FAJ> superfirelord42:  ya,,,, that really sounds like RAM issue. try running memtest 86 + from a live cd
[08:01] <rraj_be> i have just added now for this problem only
[08:01] <FAJ> doors98: :  ya,,,, that really sounds like RAM issue. try running memtest 86 + from a live cd
[08:01] <superfirelord42> doors98, on an off beat chance, you said you are in a computer repair shop right? can you swap the ram chips, switch slots
[08:01] <ikonia> benoka: ok, so what is the gateway assigned to the card
[08:01] <rraj_be> what shall i do now rww
[08:01] <serena> genii-around: its telling me it cannot reach the repo
[08:01] <jivan> hi all, how do I change my resolution, I'm stuck at 640*480
[08:01] <serena> genii-around: nothing to do with a CD etc ...
[08:01] <rww> rraj_be: Apart from that, you also seem to be missing the hardy-updates and hardy-security repositories, which also might be a problem
[08:01] <Arney15>  How do I set my Stereo speakers to Mono in Ubuntu?
[08:01] <jivan> !intel
[08:01] <serena> and of course my native wireless atheros device is not working ....
[08:02] <serena> Ubuntu is getting a bit annoying
[08:02] <rww> rraj_be: Give me a second and I'll pastebin a less-weird sources.list for you, which might help
[08:02] <rraj_be> ok
[08:02] <rraj_be> now what shuud i do rww
[08:02] <genii-around> serena: Perhaps it does not lie. Can you:   ping <name-of-your-repo-URL>     eg: ping ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:02] <doors98> superfirelord42:yap i can do that, can i use the memtest of ubuntu? is it reliable?
[08:02] <rraj_be> ok
[08:02] <benoka> ikonia: the gateway cannot be the problem, otherwise the card would not connect to the router, would it?
[08:02] <ikonia> benoka: of course it would
[08:02] <serena> genii-around: why would is not be able to get online when I am obviously online?
[08:02] <serena> genii-around: I dunno what to ping
[08:03] <ikonia> benoka: check what gateway is asssigned
[08:03] <benoka> ikonia: ok, how do I check that, i have ubuntu 8.10
[08:03] <superfirelord42> doors98, yeah, but try the ram switcharound first. I saw several people online found it worked, and it only takes about a minute do do...
[08:03] <ikonia> benoka: netstat -rn
[08:03] <doors98> superfirelord42:il try to install window$ pirated, if it installs then not a memory problem, coz i have a cpu which cant install windows but it can install ubuntu, windows is i think more strict on memory
[08:03] <ikonia> benoka: or use the network gui
[08:03] <genii-around> serena: Because it may not be able to know that "ca.archive.ubuntu.com"  for instance belongs to IP of something. EG: your DNS is not working
[08:04] <doors98> superfirelord42: ahhh okey i'l do that first
[08:04] <genii-around> serena: Your web browser works?
[08:04] <superfirelord42> doors98, maybe, or it could be linux is having an issue with some picky thing that it just happens to be hitting.. every os has some thing they really hate...
[08:04] <serena> genii-around: ok I think the problem is actually that another synaptic is running and is frozen somewhere
[08:04] <serena> genii-around: yes
[08:04] <rraj_be> whats up rww
[08:05] <FAJ> superfirelord42:  if it's the lights though normally thats RAM...
[08:05] <N-A> Hello, I have a problem mounting a drive (ntfs-3g) I get the message that I must be root to mount xxx in yyy, this is one of several ntfs partitions, the rest mount fine.
[08:05] <genii-around> serena: If web browser works, DNS is OK.   Can you pastebin the contents of file:   /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:05] <superfirelord42> FAJ, on a kernel crash, it always flashes the LEDs on the keyboard
[08:05] <rww> rraj_be: sorry, took me a sec. Try replacing your sources.list with this one: http://pastebin.com/m661f3401
[08:05] <VistaUser> hey rww
[08:06] <serena> genii-around: thanks I got it ... update manager was frozen in processes ... just had to kill the process
[08:06] <FAJ> superfirelord42:  huh ok, interesting.
[08:06] <rww> rraj_be: if you're not in the US, consider replacing us.archive with in.archive (you're in india, right?)
[08:06] <rraj_be> ok rww
[08:06] <rww> Hi VistaUser!
[08:06] <genii-around> serena: Ah, good then
[08:06] <benoka> ikonia: the gui doesn't show me the gateway information, or I don't know where to check
[08:06] <ardchoille> How do I change which app opens a certain file by default (change double-click behavior)?
[08:06] <jivan> can anybody tell me how can I figure out how to fix my screen resolution, I'm stuck at 640*480 82845G/GL chipset
[08:06] <FAJ> doors98: if it's a kernel crash, try touching the forcefsck, fixed my kernerl error a long time a go
[08:06] <ikonia> benoka: then use netstat -rn
[08:06] <ardchoille> Is there a gui to change file associations?
[08:06] <doors98> superfirelord42:yap; i'l do your suggestion first,
[08:06] <serena> genii-around: whats with the Atheros wireless though? ... its got the driver activated but its not working at all
[08:06] <jivan> can anybody tell me how can I figure out how to fix my screen resolution, I'm stuck at 640*480 on Intel 82845G/GL chipset
[08:06] <rraj_be> yeah . . .i am in india
[08:07] <rraj_be> ok rww
[08:07] <dnyy> Is there a way I can resize my ubuntu partition while in ubuntu? :/
[08:07] <ikonia> dnyy: no
[08:07] <benoka> ikonia: netstat gives me 0.0.0.0 as gateway for the card, but then an extra line refers to 0.0.0.0 as having 192.168.1.1 (the router's internal IP)
[08:07] <rww> !resolution | jivan
[08:07] <phire> hey, could someone give me the ip address of google, I think my dns server is down
[08:07] <Arney15>  How do I set my Stereo speakers to Mono in Ubuntu?
[08:07] <ikonia> benoka: thats fine, so can you ping 192.168.1.1
[08:07] <genii-around> serena: Did you direct it to connect to some access point yet?
[08:07] <rww> !gparted | dnyy: reboot into the Ubuntu Live CD, then use gparted
[08:07] <dnyy> rww My CD drive is busted.
[08:08] <serena> genii-around: see the device does not even exist to iwconfig
[08:08] <rww> rraj_be: okay, once you've changed your sources.list, do an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. You might have a bunch of updates that need applying. Then, once that's all cleared up, try installing your package again
[08:08] <ikonia> rww: that won't work while he's using ubuntu - careful what you blindly suggest
[08:08] <Guest34521> What is a good alternative for the Network Manager (except for wifi-radar) ??
[08:08] <genii-around> serena: Did you try then yet: sudo ifconfig ath0 up                   and then: ifconfig             to see if ath0 exists there?
[08:08] <doors98> superfirelord42:thanks so much, i guess your goin to bed now it's late there right?, its 4 pm here in the philippines
[08:08] <superfirelord42> doors98, 2am over here...
[08:09] <rww> ikonia: note the "reboot into the Ubuntu Live CD". I'm aware that gparted won't work on mounted filesystems
[08:09] <Bobbie> join #ubuntu-fr
[08:09] <serena> genii-around: nothing there either
[08:09] <rraj_be> sure rww
[08:09] <rww> dnyy: well, you can't resize a partition that's currently in use, especially not your root partition :(
[08:09] <ikonia> rww: he just said he can't do that
[08:09] <superfirelord42> doors98, if that doesnt work, i recommend trying other ram chips... if not, your main board may have an issue...
[08:09] <genii-around> serena: Did the:  sudo ifconfig ath0 up                               report any error?
[08:09] <serena> genii-around: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[08:09] <dnyy> rww What if I boot into windows, can I edit the ubuntu partition from there?
[08:10] <genii-around> serena: Thats not an answer to a question I asked :)
[08:10] <ikonia> dnyy: you'd need a windows application that can do it
[08:10] <dnyy> rww wait nevermind, i'd have to shrink the windows partition to make the ubuntu one bigger. :(
[08:10] <serena> genii-around:  ath0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[08:10] <ikonia> dnyy: the guys in ##windows may be able to help
[08:10] <benoka> ikonia: yes, like I said at the beginning, connection to the router works fine
[08:10] <dnyy> ikonia alright, thanks. :)
[08:11] <Guest34521> anyone can help me ?
[08:11] <N-A> I have a problem mounting a partition (with ntfs-3g) I get the message that I must be root to mount xxx in yyy, this is one of several ntfs partitions, the rest mount fine.
[08:11] <serena> genii-around: going for the 170 MB update now
[08:11] <Guest34521> N-A: sudo
[08:11] <doors98> superfirelord42:i tried other mem chip, still the same, but now i'm installing windows, i hope it will work so that i can boot again on the installer of ubuntu
[08:11] <genii-around> serena: Add into file: /etc/network/interfaces    2 lines:    auto ath0          and: iface ath0 inet dhcp                   then save and issue again the sudo ifconfig ath0 up
[08:12] <N-A> Guest34521: I would like a general fix, not a one shot
[08:12] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hey guys
[08:12] <Guest34521> N-A: yes
[08:12] <genii-around> serena: I have to leave shortly.
[08:12] <superfirelord42> doors98, yeah, it may be a mobo issue, i wish i can help more, but is is very late here... good luck...
[08:12] <N-A> Guest34521: Yes?
[08:12] <serena> genii-around: I am looking up my device online and it seems there is a bug with hal
[08:12] <ohletmeinnowgodd> question about BROKEN DEPENDENCIES
[08:12] <Guest34521> You can also make NTFS to be mounted during boot by adding the following line to the end of the /etc/fstab file:
[08:12] <Guest34521>  
[08:12] <Guest34521>     /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
[08:12] <rww> N-A: check /etc/fstab and make sure that all the NTFS partitions have the same options. I don't have the man page for fstab handy, but I believe one of them allows non-root users to mount
[08:12] <serena> genii-around: seems its been an issue in Hardy and Intrepid
[08:12] <Guest34521> N-A: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/
[08:12] <N-A> Guest34521: Like, I want nautilus to mount it when I double click on it and umount when I tell it to unmount
[08:13] <ohletmeinnowgodd> can someone help me with broken dependencies?
[08:13] <doors98> superfirelord42:okey many thanks again for your help:
[08:13] <genii-around> serena: OK, hopefully they have a fix other than running ndiswrapper or such
[08:13] <serena> genii-around: I need to either try ath5k or a new version of hal
[08:13] <doors98> FAJ: thanks too
[08:13] <serena> genii-around: yes ... thanks for your time though ..
[08:13] <FAJ> np doors98
[08:13] <rww> ohletmeinnowgodd: state your problem, all on one line, with any relevant information. If you're getting related errors that span more than one line, use paste.ubuntu.com
[08:13] <Guest34521> N-A: oh I don't know how to force nautilus to use root either, ask around
[08:14] <N-A> Guest57561: fstab entry I think works fine, actually not sure about that, it's been some time since I rebooted, but I'm not so worried about that, I just want my gui to work
[08:14] <genii-around> serena: You're welcome and good luck with it.
[08:14] <bradh79> hi
[08:14] <serena> genii-around; thanks
[08:14] <simple> gksu nautilus ?
[08:14] <dfgas> anyone gotten bluetooth to work on 8.10?
[08:15] <Sn0oP_ShAkE> works out of the box here
[08:15] <bradh79> my pc detects my 2nd screen in dos and bootup but once ubuntu loads it switches off i have tried detecting screens but it wont work any ideas?
[08:15] <N-A> Guest34521: I don't want nautilus to have to sudo to do it either... the rest of the mount/unmount of ntfs partitions in nautilus works, just not for that one partition
[08:15] <nite_johnboy> Hi - Can someone point me in the right direction to find a list of most compatible small portable .MP3 player devices ? ?
[08:15] <atari> hi
[08:16] <atari> what the "proper" way to add crossover to ubuntu? dpkg -i?
[08:16] <pretender> can anyone help my mythweb time  is ahead my 1 hour the front ends find.  I am in Brisbane Australia
[08:16] <N-A> simple: Was that gksudo comment for me?
[08:16] <Guest34521> N-A: hmm weird is it ntfs internal just like the others ?
[08:16] <N-A> Guest34521: Yeah, it's "the same"
[08:16] <N-A> Guest34521: Also USB automounting of NTFS partitions work fine as well
[08:17] <Guest34521> N-A: then it could be a bug no ?
[08:17] <bradh79> sounds like daylight savings pretender
[08:17] <N-A> Guest57561: I suppose, but I don't really know enough to know
[08:17] <linxar> какая тут кодировка?
[08:18] <pretender> bradh79:  ok how can i fix it we are not on daylight saving here
[08:18] <bradh79> not sure
[08:18] <N-A> Guest34521: I checked the rights on the mount point, and the dev, they all appear to be exactly the same
[08:18] <nite_johnboy>  Is there a good portable MP3/Ogg player that someone likes?
[08:18] <bradh79> thats just all i know why it would jump one hour ahead
[08:18] <bradh79> im here for help myself
[08:18] <Guest34521> N-A: yes I understand so if everything works fine it's either that special partition which is faulty which I don't get what would be wrong :9
[08:19] <N-A> Guest34521: Yeah I also booted windows to chkdsk several times
[08:19] <nite_johnboy> bradh79: Are you having problems with your time settings changes ?
[08:20] <nite_johnboy> changing?
[08:20] <bradh79> nope
[08:20] <bradh79> dual montiors wont work
[08:21] <N-A> Guest34521: And also if I do sudo mount it works fine
[08:21] <N-A> Guest34521: Then I have to sudo to umount as well
[08:21] <jamesrobinson54> how can i get rid of yahoo and use firefox
[08:22] <Guest34521> N-A: oh so then it must be a nautilus problem I guess, probably a bug I really don't know
[08:22] <N-A> Guest34521: Well, I can's just mount it in a terminal either
[08:22] <N-A> *can't
[08:22] <N-A> Guest34521: I have to sudo to mount it
[08:22] <benoka> my USB wireless card connects to the router but not to the internet, no filter setup on the router whatsoever, other (built-in) card of the same computer connects ok
[08:24] <N-A> I have a problem mounting a drive (ntfs-3g) I get the message that I must be root to mount xxx in yyy, this is one of several ntfs partitions, the rest mount fine.
[08:25] <temporarytao> jamesrobinson54, what do you mean?
[08:27] <N-A> I have a problem mounting a partition (ntfs-3g) I get the message that I must be root to mount xxx in yyy, this is one of several ntfs partitions, the rest mount fine. I can sudo mount it fine, just not as user, so I have to open a terminal to mount/unmount it, which is not needed for the rest of the ntfs partitions, I would like for this partition to mount when I double click on it in nautilus (like the rest) and unmount wh
[08:28] <ExecutiveOrder> is there a program that can make address labels to print out
[08:29] <Bong> KNOPPIX 4 LYFE NIGGAZ
[08:29] <edvard> good morning.. havine some problems with Ubuntu.
[08:29] <Guest34521> if I have modprobe ndiswrapper can I also use another wireless card module at the same time ?
[08:30] <Guest34521> like modprobe ath9k ?
[08:30] <ExecutiveOrder> some kind of of label maker that can make good looking address labels and postage labels?
[08:30] <edvard> after reading the forums, I suspect its connected to the Wifi for some reason, but some times when I boot up Ubuntu, I get a black screen with a flashing caps lock light on my laptop. The system has frozen
[08:30] <edvard> anyone know if I can do anything to fix this? It also happens sometimes when coming out of standby or whatever
[08:31] <edvard> Anyone?
[08:31] <ExecutiveOrder> my mom wants to set up a home business and she needs some kind of app that can print address and shipping info
[08:33] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hi guys , problem with broken dependencies, happened when i tried to run update manager http://paste.ubuntu.com/77642/
[08:33] <ohletmeinnowgodd> what should i do?
[08:33] <brodymcd> could someone please help me? Running ubuntu 8.10 and my sound card just stopped working - no static like other bugs mentioned - just not there at all...
[08:34] <N-A> ExecutiveOrder: Google turns up labelnation for avery labels, and templates for openoffice
[08:34] <ohletmeinnowgodd> rww: any ideas?
[08:34] <ExecutiveOrder> labelnation is the app N-A ?
[08:34] <N-A> ExecutiveOrder: It's an app yeah
[08:35] <N-A> ExecutiveOrder: OpenOffice is another app, for which you can get templates to print on labels
[08:35] <ohletmeinnowgodd> Guys? have a broken dependency issue, with my kernel image , http://paste.ubuntu.com/77642/ any suggestions?
[08:35] <aftertaf> ohletmeinnowgodd: sudo apt-get update : does that work ok?
[08:35] <ExecutiveOrder> the thing is N-A its gotta be more than just the label
[08:35] <ExecutiveOrder> i need something for account statments
[08:36] <N-A> ExecutiveOrder: LabelNation is a command line utility to print text on avery labels
[08:36] <ohletmeinnowgodd> aftertaf:trying it now
[08:36] <N-A> ExecutiveOrder: http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/openoffice-template.htm <--- those are label templates for OO
[08:37] <N-A> ExecutiveOrder: You can print anything you like on the labels
[08:37] <ExecutiveOrder> thanks a bunch N-A
[08:37] <zetheroo1> what is the command Ubuntu uses to put the LCD to sleep?
[08:37] <N-A> I have a problem mounting a partition (ntfs-3g) I get the message that I must be root to mount xxx in yyy, this is one of several ntfs partitions, the rest mount fine. I can sudo mount it fine, just not as user, so I have to open a terminal to mount/unmount it, which is not needed for the rest of the ntfs partitions, I would like for this partition to mount when I double click on it in nautilus (like the rest) and unmount wh
[08:37] <N-A> ExecutiveOrder: You're welcome
[08:38] <orly_owl> Is there a wiki page for installing hardy without a CD drive?
[08:38] <ohletmeinnowgodd> aftertaf: no error
[08:38] <aftertaf> N-A: any differences for that Ntfs partitioon in your /etc/fstab ?
[08:38] <N-A> aftertaf: No
[08:38] <aftertaf> ohletmeinnowgodd: ok good... are you runing update-manager from command line with any parametres?
[08:38] <brodymcd> could someone please help me get my sound running again?
[08:38] <ohletmeinnowgodd> no im running synaptic
[08:38] <ohletmeinnowgodd> gui
[08:39] <ohletmeinnowgodd> and i just relaunched it and theres still errors
[08:39] <aftertaf> ohletmeinnowgodd: ok. try running update manager from console . . .
[08:39] <aftertaf> see if any dfebug info can help us
[08:39] <N-A> aftertaf: /dev/sdd2 /media/Big1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=da_DK.UTF-8 0 0
[08:39] <ohletmeinnowgodd> aftertaf: and the command that i need to invoke is? :D
[08:41] <aftertaf> ohletmeinnowgodd: firstlmy, have you followed this tutorial ? http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[08:41] <edvard> anyone? What does booting with noacpi mean? as in whats the downside of doing it?
[08:41] <aftertaf> noacpi is for laptops... i think
[08:41] <ohletmeinnowgodd> aftertaf:no, i just saw the update thingy on the system tray, and hit "ok" a couple a times...
[08:41] <aftertaf> ok. try to follow that link. . .
[08:42] <ohletmeinnowgodd> aftertaf: it said there are updates, would like to update now? And i was like, sure why not?
[08:42] <edvard> yeah, im running on one, and Im having some problems with ubuntu freezing up, and the forums suggested running noacpi.. but not sure how to set it? I Know you have to put it in menu.lst somewhere, but no idea where
[08:42] <aftertaf> lol, makes sense :)
[08:42] <aftertaf> edvard: you can add it to the end of your kernel options . . . in menu.lst
[08:43] <KatieKitty> :)
[08:43] <KatieKitty> hi everyone
[08:43] <edvard> ok, still not sure where to put it..
[08:43] <aftertaf> edvard: find the line concerning your kernel, in between the automagic lines
[08:43] <edvard> hehe
[08:43] <ohletmeinnowgodd> you know what, its friday night, and i have no one to see/no where to go/nothing to do, why not reinstall?
[08:43] <excelblue> anyone use Chinese in Ubunutu? what settings would you recommend for maximum readability on a 1680x1050 22" LCD screen?
[08:43] <ohletmeinnowgodd> yeah
[08:43] <aftertaf> edvard: but u can test without changing file
[08:43] <excelblue> eg. what DPI should I set the fonts, how much hinting?
[08:43] <edvard> ok? how can I test without changing the file?
[08:43] <excelblue> it's going to be for my mom, who doesn't read English
[08:43] <mongrethod> what's the easiest way to switch what wireless driver ubuntu is using?
[08:44] <aftertaf> edvard: when grub pops up on boot, edit the line to add noacpi to the end
[08:44] <aftertaf> ohletmeinnowgodd: hmmm :)   are you on intrepid or hardy ?
[08:44] <edvard> hmm.. yeah, but I think I should add it to the file, as the system doesnt freeze up on each boot, its just randomly, and sometimes when I let the laptop stay on for a while
[08:44] <edvard> so to see if the problem actually gets fixed with noacpi i should add it to the menu.lst file
[08:45] <edvard> if I can only figure out where
[08:45] <aftertaf> edvard: ok. then menu.lst and locate the entries for each kernel, and add it to the end of the line concerning a kernel.....
[08:45] <mongrethod> I'm using a thinkpad a31 with a Prism 2.5 chipset, supposedly supported by the Orinoco drivers
[08:45] <mongrethod> but I cant get online and it doesnt seem to be working
[08:45] <mongrethod> ive tried googling and a few FAQs to no avail
[08:46] <mongrethod> whats the quickest way to switch drivers?
[08:46] <edvard> is it above or below the line: ## ## End Default Options ##
[08:46] <edvard> ?
[08:46] <aftertaf> edvard: below...   eg: kernel          /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 ro quiet pci=noacpi
[08:47] <N-a> I have a problem mounting a partition (ntfs-3g) I get the message that I must be root to mount xxx in yyy, this is one of several ntfs partitions, the rest mount fine. I can sudo mount it fine, just not as user, so I have to open a terminal to mount/unmount it, which is not needed for the rest of the ntfs partitions, I would like for this partition to mount when I double click on it in nautilus (like the rest) and unmount wh
[08:47] <vladtsepesh1984> hi guys i have a big problem...i want to install wicd network manager....i have uninstall ubuntu network-manager daemon and now i cant connect to internet any more....i had download the network-manager to reinstall but in the ./configure it tell me the error "cant found gettext tool"....so i had download the gettext package and the ./configure works fine...but in make after some time it tell me an error and i cant finish the
[08:47] <edvard> ah, right now I get it..
[08:47] <aftertaf> :)
[08:47] <ardchoille> How do I change which app opens a certain file by default (change double-click behavior)? Is there a gui to change file associations?
[08:47] <edvard> so i just change: kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic root=UUID=afec914b-c409-4a53-8ea1-c78532ba8bff ro quiet splash
[08:47] <edvard> to kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic root=UUID=afec914b-c409-4a53-8ea1-c78532ba8bff ro quiet splash  pci=noacpi ?
[08:47] <aftertaf> edvard: yeah.
[08:48] <edvard> cool, thanks :D
[08:48] <c0mput3r> what can i convert flv files to mp3, avi, etc?
[08:48] <vladtsepesh1984> ﻿hi guys i have a big problem...i want to install wicd network manager....i have uninstall ubuntu network-manager daemon and now i cant connect to internet any more....i had download the network-manager to reinstall but in the ./configure it tell me the error "cant found gettext tool"....so i had download the gettext package and the ./configure works fine...but in make after some time it tell me an error and i cant finish 
[08:48] <aftertaf> edvard: and if u cant boot with that, you can edit it with grub on boot
[08:48] <N-a> c0mput3r: avidemux
[08:48] <edvard> lol.. ok, how do I do that? is there a key that needs pressing?
[08:48] <aftertaf> c0mput3r: mplayer/mencoder
[08:48] <aftertaf> edvard: does your grub appear on boot?
[08:48] <aftertaf> edvard: or hidden?
[08:48] <edvard> yeah
[08:48] <aftertaf> ok
[08:49] <aftertaf> then its written at the bottom of the screen ;)
[08:49] <edvard> okies
[08:49] <edvard> thank you :)
[08:49] <edvard> will try to reboot now
[08:49] <edvard> btw, downloading 47mb of updates that just became available..
[08:49] <aftertaf> vladtsepesh1984: cant u reinstall package?
[08:49] <edvard> any details on that? seems like there is a new kernel involved?
[08:49] <aftertaf> 27-10 i think
[08:49] <edvard> 27-9 it seems
[08:50] <vladtsepesh1984> i don't know how
[08:50] <vladtsepesh1984> ;(
[08:50] <aftertaf> hmm im on 10 already :)
[08:50] <edvard> lol
[08:50] <edvard> what are the differences between the kernel versions?
[08:50] <edvard> why upgrade the kernel?
[08:50] <KatieKitty> guy, is there any alternative softwares for autocad in the ubuntu repo?
[08:51] <ardchoille> aftertaf: how did you manage that?
[08:51] <aftertaf> vladtsepesh1984: look in here: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/
[08:51] <chris___> hello, "find" doesnt seem to search recursively, intrepid, 64 bit?
[08:51] <aftertaf> 2.6.27-10-generic #1 SMP Fri Nov 21 12:00:22 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux i confirm :)
[08:51] <ardchoille> aftertaf: I didn't question you, I just wondered how you managed it
[08:51] <aftertaf> ardchoille: er . . . :) backports maybe
[08:52] <ardchoille> ah, ok
[08:52] <vladtsepesh1984> the network-manager is not there!!!
[08:52] <chris___> KatieKitty: you could search in the package manager for "CAD"
[08:52] <aftertaf> vladtsepesh1984: ok. if u type sudo apt-get install [packagename] what other depepdencies does it require?
[08:53] <vladtsepesh1984> aftertaf i can't use apt-get...beacuase i'm out of internet.....uninstalling network-manager now i can't connet to internet
[08:53] <ogzy> although i installed module-assistant and run m-a prepare iam getting no rule for target message and compiling never starts for a driver i am trying, what can be missing?
[08:53] <aftertaf> vladtsepesh1984: u on win?
[08:54] <vladtsepesh1984> no i'm in ubuntu on my laptop now..but the problem is on my desktop
[08:54] <aftertaf> vladtsepesh1984: ok. try it anyway then.... to see if other dependencies . . . .
[08:54] <j0nr> morning all
[08:54] <aftertaf> vladtsepesh1984: that way u can download and transfer via usb drive...?
[08:55] <vladtsepesh1984> yes i can download and transfer
[08:55] <N-a> I have a problem mounting a partition (ntfs-3g) I get the message that I must be root to mount xxx in yyy, this is one of several ntfs partitions, the rest mount fine. I can sudo mount it fine, just not as user, so I have to open a terminal to mount/unmount it, which is not needed for the rest of the ntfs partitions, I would like for this partition to mount when I double click on it in nautilus (like the rest) and unmount wh
[08:55] <j0nr> i have a problem doing updates... getting a partial upgrade error. when performing apt-get upgrade i see packages being kept back
[08:55] <zetheroo1> what is the command given to put the LCD to sleep
[08:56] <mkerd> N-a, I'm guessing you have to change the permissions for that partition.
[08:56] <vladtsepesh1984> aftertaf i dont know the package name
[08:56] <Tankado> Is there anyway to make Ubuntu load up without the graphics interface and act as a server (without installing the ubuntu server because i sometimes want to use it as a desktop) ?
[08:57] <N-a> mkerd: Where?
[08:57] <kkady32> !pidgin
[08:57] <N-a> mkerd: On /dev/sddx?
[08:57] <aftertaf> vladtsepesh1984: if u do it with synaptic . . .  you'l have a window with errors for each *.deb file
[08:58] <vladtsepesh1984> aftertaf: the package named "network-manager" but if i try "sudo apt-get network-manager" it tells me "Invalid operation network-manager"
[08:58] <N-a> vladtsepesh1984: install
[08:58] <aftertaf> Tankado: yeah, stop gdm or kdm from running on boot
[08:58] <aftertaf> N-a: thx :)
[08:58] <N-a> vladtsepesh1984: sudo apt-get install network-manager
[08:58] <mkerd> N-a, Mount it as root and then change for wherever you mounted it. At least that's how I think you should do it.
[08:58] <jjohnson> anyone know the channel for ubuntu ppc
[08:59] <Tankado> aftertaf : how do i do that ?
[08:59] <mkerd> N-a, If that doesn't work try your way :)
[08:59] <tomaustin> hi. i am wanting to change my icon theme in my ~/.gtkrc-2.0.mine file but its not taking effect? This file gets included by the .gtkrc-2.0 file. any ideas?
[08:59] <aftertaf> Tankado: with update-rc.d i think
[08:59] <Guest34521> HELP, i just installed NDISwrapper + windows drivers and ubuntu freezes on startup, I CANT EVEN RESTART IN RECOVERY MODE
[08:59] <Tankado> thanks
[08:59] <N-a> mkerd: So i mount it first with sudo, and then check permissions on the mount point?
[08:59] <cllaudyu> does someone know why ubuntu frezese after a long period of time?
[08:59] <mkerd> N-a, Yeah
[08:59] <Guest34521> I get the recovery menu
[08:59] <aftertaf> or with sysv-rc-conf
[09:00] <jjohnson> is there still a channel for us ubuntu mac users?
[09:00] <N-a> mkerd: I'll try that, thx
[09:00] <Ayabara> what's the latest kernel version for 8.10?
[09:00] <vladtsepesh1984> N-a: could not resolve http:.....
[09:00] <vladtsepesh1984> etc etc
[09:00] <aftertaf> Ayabara: 2.6.27-10-generic #1 SMP Fri Nov 21 12:00:22 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux i confirm :)
[09:00] <j800r> yo, anyone know if you can use a tv tuner with ubuntu?
[09:01] <mkerd> cllaudyu, nope, no one knows unless you give us more info than that. Like if your doing anything particular when it freezes, if you have any proprietary drivers installed and so on. Even then no one might know but at least your chances of getting help will be better by knowing how to ask a good question.
[09:01] <Ayabara> aftertaf: thanks, and darn, then I need to recreate my menu.lst :)
[09:01] <aftertaf> vladtsepesh1984: yeah . . .you should have each package needed mentioned there
[09:01] <huwenfeng> i've a question , are you all using pidgin now?
[09:01] <aftertaf> j800r: yes u can.... mythtv for one. google :)
[09:01] <Ayabara> anyone know how I can recreate my menu.lst?
[09:01] <vladtsepesh1984> and also "failed to fetch http:...." i think is because of i have no active connection
[09:01] <mkerd> huwenfeng, no
[09:01] <kkady32> i cannot sent or received files with pidgin
[09:01]  * j800r googles
[09:01] <aftertaf> Ayabara: update-grub
[09:02] <Guest34521> help me what can I do ubuntu froze after NDISwrapper
[09:02] <aftertaf> vladtsepesh1984: yeah.... u have a list of .deb files there?
[09:02] <mkerd> kkady32, through which protocol?
[09:02] <huwenfeng> mkerd: then what are you using now?
[09:02] <mkerd> huwenfeng, for irc? Xchat
[09:02] <huwenfeng> mkerd: i'd like to , which is better
[09:02] <Zarvox_> salut les gens
[09:02] <kkady32> mkerd:yahoo
[09:02] <vladtsepesh1984> aftertaf...sorry i dont know wath you means....i'm not so good on ubuntu
[09:02] <aftertaf> bjou
[09:02] <huwenfeng> xchar? OK, let me try
[09:02] <j800r> ah shit, it's a tarball
[09:03] <mkerd> huwenfeng, there's no better, there's only what you prefer.
[09:03] <j800r> ooops, sorry for the language :x
[09:03] <Zarvox_> hi all
[09:03] <aftertaf> vladtsepesh1984: when you type sudo apt-get install network-manager...... what packages does it fail to download?
[09:03] <aftertaf> j800r: mythtv?
[09:03] <Zarvox_> i need little help
[09:03] <j800r> ya
[09:04] <vladtsepesh1984> i paste to you the err mess
[09:04] <j800r> i downloaded it and it's in tarball format
[09:04] <aftertaf> j800r: its in repositories
[09:04] <vladtsepesh1984> wait a minute
[09:04] <aftertaf> vladtsepesh1984: ok.
[09:04] <j800r> oh!
[09:04] <j800r> ok
[09:04] <aftertaf> :)
[09:04] <mkerd> kkady32, I don't use yahoo myself but it's a proprietary closed protocol so that might be why file transfers don't work. You'll have to look it up in Pidgins features and see if it has support for file transfers. If not I suggest you use Jabber instead. It's a free and open instant messaging protocol that's much better.
[09:04] <Zarvox_> i have installed gnome on a server but i don't want the x server to start automaticaly
[09:04] <Ayabara> aftertaf: thanks
[09:05] <vladtsepesh1984> wich is the site to paste text???i always forgot
[09:05] <vladtsepesh1984> :D
[09:05] <aftertaf> Ayabara: np ;)
[09:05] <kkady32> mkerd:thx,pidgin work,gyache work but that is only problem file transfer
[09:05] <Zarvox_> i want to start the x server only on login
[09:05] <aftertaf> !paste
[09:05] <Zarvox_> shall i remove gdm ?
[09:05] <vladtsepesh1984> !paste
[09:05] <j800r> !paste|vladtsepesh1984
[09:05] <mkerd> kkady32, yeah, msn has the same problem. best solution is to start using jabber imo
[09:05] <aftertaf> Zarvox_: no!!!  change gdm startup
[09:05] <kkady32> mkerd:with jabber cann conected to yahoo messenger?
[09:06] <aftertaf> Zarvox_: with sysv-rc-conf
[09:06] <Zarvox_> aftr
[09:06] <mkerd> kkady32, jabber is its own protocol
[09:06] <Asdf342> test
[09:06] <mkerd> kkady32, it's not a program
[09:06] <vladtsepesh1984> http://paste.ubuntu.com/77647/
[09:06] <zetheroo1> how can i find out what is causing my laptop to crash?
[09:06] <aftertaf> Zarvox_: "apt-get install" it
[09:06] <kkady32> mkerd:ok now understand,i try that,txh a lot
[09:06] <mkerd> kkady32, jabber = xmpp in pidgin
[09:07] <Zarvox_> aftertaf: i need to install sysv-rc-conf with synaptics ?
[09:08] <Anon4436> Q: after installing googleearth the globe only shows once
[09:08] <Anon4436> when i start it again it disappears
[09:08] <Anon4436> i dont want to run it as SUDO
[09:08] <Anon4436> everytime
[09:10] <Anon4436> i need help!!
[09:10] <vladtsepesh1984> aftertaf are you there??
[09:10] <aftertaf> vladtsepesh1984: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77650/
[09:10] <aftertaf> Zarvox_: if u install it u can stop autostarting of gdm
[09:11] <vladtsepesh1984> ok aftertaf ill try
[09:11] <aftertaf> Zarvox_: that or.... if gnome has a service manager, u can stop the service that way. I'm on Kde 4
[09:11] <Anon4436> anyone else know how to run googleearth on userlevel
[09:11] <gambler> has anyone setup twinview with 3 monitors?
[09:11] <aftertaf> vladtsepesh1984: ok :) good luck. and remember to copy with sudo, u wont have the rights as normal user ...
[09:12] <XB23> hey guys how do i get a list of active quotas?
[09:13] <anfangs> hola
[09:14] <Znurf> i am a newbie, i need help installing and configuring and STARTING ddclient :/
[09:14] <Lokin> apt-get instal ddclient
[09:14] <Lokin> install*
[09:14] <\slash> i have a prob with my sound.. when i plugin jack i can hear music but laptop speakers are mute.. yesterday though i rebooted and iheard startup sounds just fine.. but then it went mute again
[09:14] <\slash> any ideas?
[09:14] <Znurf> Lokin yeah thats awesome, i did that, then what :/
[09:15] <Lokin> it should show up under downloads
[09:15] <Znurf> downloads? :S
[09:15] <XB23> hey guys how do i get a list of active quotas?
[09:16] <Lokin> the file....
[09:16] <Lokin> unless your on a server
[09:16] <Znurf> i am using ubuntu server with gnome
[09:16] <Lokin> good job
[09:16] <Anon4436> what's a good virusscanner for ubuntu
[09:16] <Lokin> OpenSSH?
[09:16] <Anon4436> ?
[09:16] <Znurf> yes Lokin
[09:17] <Lokin> LAMP?
[09:17] <Znurf> nope
[09:17] <Anon4436> cool
[09:17] <Lokin> k well then you need to launch it. Can't remember off the top of my head one sec.
[09:18] <XB23> hey guys can someone check these quotas for me
[09:18] <XB23>  /dev/sda1                      5488          0          0        504
[09:18] <XB23> is that unlimited?
[09:18] <aftertaf> Anon4436: u need one for linux? hmmm
[09:19] <vladtsepesh1984> aftertaf it works...i love you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :D
[09:19] <anfangs> exit
[09:19] <aftertaf> vladtsepesh1984:  :)
[09:19] <aftertaf> rock n roll baby :)
[09:19] <bullgard4> Is it normal that I have to type a gnome-keyring password before using Gajim?
[09:20] <Anon4345> testing
[09:20] <olivier_> Can somebody here help me on LVM2 ?
[09:21] <Lokin> Znurf: Can't remember but I think once you install find directory it's in and do ./configure
[09:21] <Lokin> I have to go
[09:21] <Znurf> Lokin but i need LAMP?
[09:21] <joegiampaoli> can anyone read me?
[09:21] <Znurf> i dont evne know what LAMP is
[09:21] <Leonheart> @... Wht new feature for ibex?
[09:22] <Leonheart> !lamp
[09:22] <Znurf> really
[09:22] <visik7> how can I make a podcast from a streaming audio ?
[09:23] <olivier_> I try to figure out how to automatically mount an LVM2 partition from fedora on my Ubuntu, but all I can do is mounting it manually
[09:24] <Anon4345> im tring to figure out how to run googleearth
[09:24] <Anon4345> its hard
[09:24] <Leonheart>  olivier_, ermm... is tht an option on user setting. "automaticly mount"
[09:24] <Zarvox_> aftertaf: sysv installed but i don't know how it work
[09:26] <nbeebo> whats the name of THE simple filebrowser? almost only icons
[09:26] <Leonheart> !gnome
[09:26] <Leonheart> !kde
[09:27] <Guest34521> why can't I cd to folders that have "(" in them ?
[09:27] <Anon4345> !terminal
[09:27] <olivier_> @ leonheart, no because it depends from an lvm command 'vgchange -a y' that I must enter before trying the mount
[09:27] <Leonheart> Guest34521: use brasero disc burner
[09:28] <nbeebo> anyone know any good file managers except dolphin and nautilus?
[09:28] <fisitisch> good morning all, I have the following question. I want to connect two usb dvb-t adapter the first makes no problem . But the second only generates this message :[233334.281657] usb 4-3.2: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 10
[09:28] <fisitisch> [233334.392271] usb 4-3.2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[09:28] <nbeebo> kinda dead this morning
[09:28] <aftertaf> Zarvox_: run it from console . . . instructions are on screen...
[09:29] <Leonheart> olivier_: I never use partition other than fat/ntfs/ext/reiser
[09:29] <Leonheart> sory
[09:30] <Zarvox_> aftertaf: i saw the man but i don't know how to modify the gdm setup
[09:30] <olivier_> I'm looking for a way to have this command executed before the system mount
[09:30] <Guest34521> Leonheart: what? nono I just want to change directory (cd) in terminal for folders that have "(" in them
[09:31] <olivier_> @ guest34521 you have to protect the unusual characters with a '\' before
[09:31] <aftertaf> Zarvox_: did u run sysv thing?
[09:31] <Leonheart> Guest34521: are you try " " yet?
[09:31] <ikonia> ubuntu does not use sysv init
[09:32] <nbeebo> anyone know the simple file manager with almost only icons?
[09:32] <Mcp_dk> hi.. I need help with sound problems. I have a soundcard based on AC97 soundchip and all of a sudden i have no sound. Can someone help me troubleshoot?
[09:32] <Guest34521> Leonheart: I want to cd to rtlsetup-1234(1273)
[09:32] <Guest34521> but it says unexpected token
[09:32] <Zarvox_> aftertaf: what ? explain better i don't understand :-) i'm frenchie
[09:33] <aftertaf> Zarvox_: ca veut rien dire ;)
[09:33] <Leonheart> type cd "rtlsetup-1234(1273)"
[09:33] <Leonheart> with quote
[09:33] <Guest34521> Leonheart: oh thanks yes it worked !!!
[09:33] <nbeebo> does that work with spaces too?
[09:33] <Zarvox_> aftertaf: my english is ... rusted ;-)
[09:33] <Leonheart> yes. it work with space
[09:34] <Zarvox_> aftertaf: i ran sysv-rc-conf --list to saw the list of services loaded
[09:35] <ikonia> Zarvox_: be aware ubuntu does not use sysv init
[09:35] <Leonheart> hi ikonia ;)
[09:35] <ikonia> hello
[09:35] <Leonheart> hehe you always in here :-[
[09:35] <Arney15>  How do I set my Stereo speakers to Mono in Ubuntu?
[09:36] <ubunt2> how i use 3d windows in ubuntu
[09:36] <Zarvox_> ikonia: really ? i'm little confused, how to load gdm on login ?
[09:36] <thebomb> anywhere on the internet where a guide is to setup a Kickstart server ?
[09:36] <davidroderick> After doing system update my menu bar take five seconds to appear after clicking on them. Any ideas?
[09:36] <ikonia> Zarvox_: it does it on it's own
[09:36] <Leonheart> Arney15: by default speaker system on pc is stereo. there is no mono hardware. you can't change it
[09:36] <ikonia> Zarvox_: it's configured at install
[09:36] <ubunt2> how let the beryl work ?!
[09:37] <ubunt2> i installed it but its still not working
[09:37] <ikonia> ubunt2: beryl is dead it was replaced with compiz-fushion which is installed on ubuntu by default from 7.10 onwards
[09:37] <Mcp_dk> how do i troubleshoot my soundcard that suddenly stopped working?
[09:37] <Leonheart>  ubunt2: activate effect in appereance (only worked if driver supported) :P
[09:37] <aftertaf> Zarvox_: sudo sysv-rc-conf
[09:37] <Zarvox_> ikonia: but i've installed ubuntu-desktop after installation of ubuntu server
[09:37] <Znurf> how do i make users and groups in proftpd?
[09:38] <ikonia> Zarvox_ what is your default runlevel set to
[09:38] <Zarvox_> aftertaf: i've done it
[09:39] <aftertaf> ikonia: found it easier that remembering syntax for update-rc.d each time :)
[09:39] <nbeebo> can u make so a sound file in ubuntu goes trough the microphone? kinda
[09:39] <Zarvox_> ikonia: set to what ?
[09:39] <ikonia> Zarvox_ what is your default run level set to
[09:39] <ubunt2> its not working 3d beryl
[09:40] <Leonheart> nbeebo: input from mixer can do tht
[09:40] <ikonia> ubunt2: beryl does not exist
[09:41] <Zarvox_> ikonia: the runlevel of gdm is set on 2 3 4 5
[09:41] <nbeebo> so u just press the mic(capture) button under the correct sound mixer?
[09:41] <ikonia> Zarvox_ no it's not
[09:41] <ikonia> Zarvox_: what is your systems default run level
[09:42] <Zarvox_> ikonia: x start at bootup
[09:42] <ikonia> Zarvox_: stop telling me stuff I'm not asking for, I'm asking what is your systems default run level
[09:43] <Fallen_Demon> Hey people, I'm having issues with a Hardy install
[09:43] <Zarvox_> ikonia: excuse me but i don't understand
[09:43] <zetheroo1> my laptop crashes from time to time ... how do I locate the problem?
[09:43] <Defrysk> zetheroo1, by being more specific ?
[09:44] <Zarvox_> ikonia: how to see the runlevel ?
[09:44] <Fallen_Demon> I recently installed the new network manager so I could use it with my mobile broadband modem. That all works fine, but occasionally my dbus daemon will crash without warning
[09:44] <Fallen_Demon> If anyone wants the dmesg, I have it up now
[09:45] <zetheroo1> Defrysk: my laptop freezes ... dunno what else to say ... just freezes and I cannot move the mouse cursor or anything ... and the CAPS lock is blinking ....
[09:45] <Fallen_Demon> zetheroo1, Kernel crash
[09:45] <nbeebo> zetheroo1 sounds like an assume virus :D
[09:46] <Fallen_Demon> Happened when I was using Gentoo, or at least trying to use gentoo
[09:46] <zetheroo1> Fallen_Demon: how do locate the issue? ...
[09:46] <Leonheart> how much this channel consume internet bandwith?
[09:46] <zetheroo1> nbeebo: dunno
[09:46] <Fallen_Demon> Leonheart, not a lot
[09:46] <Leonheart> because my download stuff is descrease 50% full throthle
[09:46] <Fallen_Demon> Leonheart, maybe a few bytes every 20 seconds
[09:46] <Leonheart> kk,
[09:47] <Maveas> !mount
[09:47] <Leonheart> !crash
[09:47] <Leonheart> :(
[09:47] <Fallen_Demon> zetheroo1, there's plenty of outputs, you'd want the log file from somewhere, I'm not sure which one though, sorry
[09:47] <nbeebo> !windows
[09:48] <nbeebo> !mac
[09:48] <zetheroo1> Fallen_Demon: would the kernel log help any?
[09:48] <harvey> Hey guys. Can anyone help me. Ive just upgrade to 8.10 got the usual problems, I love Ubuntu but I've had enough, does anyone know where I can just pay to get some support and just have someone fix my laptop for me. (Movies dont play, screen resolution is messed up.) Thanks in advance.
[09:48] <wib> hi. i tried to have an hdd mounted automatically on startup by setting "/media/mydisk" as a mount point (using nautilus). now not only doesn't it mount automatically but i can't even access it anymore by just doublecklicking on it in computer:/// .it sais "mount_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPERATOR (usually /)". but in the properties for that drive there is no option to unset the mount point :(
[09:48] <Fallen_Demon> Yeah, it would show if it was panicing, I think
[09:48] <jamil_13579> Is it possible to upgrade from fesity to intrepid directly ?
[09:49] <Leonheart> harvey: errrmm... u should install lib for tht
[09:49] <Fallen_Demon> wib Put it in fstab
[09:49] <Leonheart> because 600MB CD doesn't fit all stuff
[09:49] <harvey> ive tried leonheart....
[09:49] <elTigre> hey, I think my locales are broken on my ubuntu server... how can I fix that
[09:49] <harvey> where does one/ can one pay for support
[09:50] <wib> Fallen_Demon: yes, but i was hoping to fix the broken setting before i do that
[09:50] <Mcp_dk> !sound
[09:51] <nbeebo> harvey, check ubuntus website, says support everywhere
[09:51] <Fallen_Demon> wib, the error says you have an invalid char, go into it and delete any '/''s
[09:51] <wib> Fallen_Demon: the properties dialogue doesn't show that option anymore
[09:51] <roland> hi... can I write ubuntu CD to DVD with brasero? and will the dvd be bootable?
[09:51] <harvey> ok ,but this you have to pay a subscription, I just want someone who will just spend 40 mins on it and then give me a bill...
[09:51] <Fallen_Demon> roland, yep
[09:52] <Maveas> How do I mount uif files?
[09:52] <jamil_13579> How can I upgrade from feisty to intrepid directly ?
[09:52] <roland> Fallen_Demon: shall try thnx.. just asking because 2 dvd's left, small room for error
[09:53] <legendsohai> how can I disable my openssh server to use encryption connection?
[09:53] <Maveas> !uif
[09:53] <Leonheart> !audacity
[09:53] <nbeebo> !gui
[09:54] <legendsohai> !ssh
[09:54] <nbeebo> !geek
[09:54] <Leonheart> !ssl
[09:54] <nbeebo> !anything
[09:54] <Leonheart> !hash
[09:54] <nbeebo> DAMMIT!
[09:54] <Leonheart> gaaah.. this bot is lame
[09:55] <Leonheart> !crc32
[09:55] <nbeebo> !1337
[09:55] <nbeebo> lol
[09:55] <Leonheart> hei kau kurar kura tai!
[09:55] <nbeebo> !billgates
[09:55] <nbeebo> !microsoft
[09:56] <legendsohai> !bash
[09:56] <nbeebo> !commandline
[09:56] <nbeebo> !42
[09:56] <zoli2k> can anyone recommend a good  GTK or QT based TV tuner application?
[09:57] <legendsohai> !hentai
[09:57] <Leonheart> !shit
[09:57] <Leonheart> O.o
[09:57] <nbeebo> !porn
[09:57] <legendsohai> !iloveyou
[09:57] <stdin> stop it
[09:57] <nbeebo> !sorry
[09:57] <DJones> !botabuse
[09:57] <legendsohai> !love
[09:57] <FloodBot2> ubottu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:57] <stdin> @ignore legendsohai
[09:58] <stdin> @ignore Leonheart
[09:58] <Leonheart> hey!
[09:58] <Leonheart> i'm not
[09:58] <legendsohai> !ssh
[09:58] <legendsohai> wow it ignored me
[09:58] <nbeebo> say !sorry
[09:58] <legendsohai> !sorry
[09:59] <nbeebo> !sorry
[09:59] <legendsohai> !ssh
[09:59] <stdin> nbeebo: you should stop it too
[09:59] <roland> lol... floodbot vs ubottu
[09:59] <legendsohai> but im still cant get what i want
[09:59] <legendsohai> !ssh
[09:59] <Leonheart> testing...
[09:59] <nbeebo> !ssh
[09:59] <Leonheart> ok, work again
[09:59] <huwenfeng> HI, i 'd like to use tar as a backup tools,  and i need to do incremental backup,  how can i do that ? safely !  i know that i can use --new-mtime , but this seems not that accurate! is that right?
[09:59] <nbeebo> it was me..
[10:00] <visik7> how can I make a podcast from a streaming audio ?
[10:00] <xmehrba2> HELLOW WORLD
[10:00] <_io_> got a quick question.  I have the bug where sound is muted after awake from hibernate.  Which folder can I place the script to fic that in so that it runs every time the computer wakes up or restarts?
[10:00] <xmehrba2> I need a help please
[10:00] <samsung-user> Hi all. Does someone configured wifi card on Samsung NC10?
[10:00] <xmehrba2> any one to help me please
[10:00] <zoli2k> xmehrba2: don't shout. ask!
[10:00] <xmehrba2> problem of WL in dell studio
[10:01] <zoli2k> xmehrba2: no one can help you if you don' say what is your problem.
[10:01] <xmehrba2> ok, sorry
[10:01] <legendsohai> !cobol
[10:01] <xmehrba2> I can not install WL in dell studio 1535
[10:01] <nbeebo> !cobol
[10:01] <roland> !cylon
[10:01] <legendsohai> !assemble
[10:01] <xmehrba2> i've tried several tutor, but not work
[10:02] <roland> :(
[10:02] <nbeebo> whats wl?
[10:02] <tess> ciao
[10:02] <magnetron> !msgthebot | legendsohai
[10:02] <xmehrba2> BCM 4310 USB
[10:02] <angyth88> ciao tess
[10:02] <angyth88> ciao a tutti, tess è nuova di linux
[10:02] <angyth88> potete aiutarla?
[10:02] <legendsohai> what?
[10:02] <tess> ciao a tutti
[10:02] <magnetron> !it | angyth88
[10:02] <legendsohai> im not a not ok
[10:03] <legendsohai> bot*
[10:03] <angyth88> ok
[10:03] <angyth88> grazie ubottu
[10:03] <huwenfeng> i got a question, is ubottu a robot? or a human being?
[10:03] <zoli2k> xmehrba2: did you tried ndiswrapper?
[10:03] <legendsohai> !c++
[10:03] <xmehrba2> no one to help me>
[10:03] <nbeebo> !msgthebet  |  legendsofhai
[10:03] <magnetron> legendsohai→ when you try all those !factoids , do so in #ubuntu-bots please
[10:03] <nbeebo> !msgthebot  |  legendsofhai
[10:03] <xmehrba2> I tried I couldnt install it
[10:04] <nbeebo> do what it says legends
[10:04] <_io_> does anybody know which folders scripts get run whenever the machine wakes from hibernation or plain startup?
[10:04] <zoli2k> xmehrba2: you can not install ndiswrapper?
[10:04] <_io_> on Hardy that is
[10:05] <zoli2k> xmehrba2: ^^^
[10:05] <angyth88> tess, entra qui  #ubuntu-it (clicca destro sul nome del canale per entrare)
[10:05] <shift-wreck> trying to make an entry in my OB menu. how do i make the comand start in a particular directory folder?
[10:06] <Leonheart> heya.... is start to explode. i'm gone. cya! ;)
[10:06] <bullgard4> _io_: Get yourslef informed about pm-utils.
[10:06] <jNoxx> I have problems with radeon hd3470 and ubuntu
[10:06] <bullgard4> _io_: Get yourself informed about pm-utils.
[10:06] <jNoxx> I can not install ay drivers
[10:06] <jNoxx> any*
[10:07] <jNoxx> Even manually
[10:07] <jNoxx> Whocan help - pm me please
[10:07] <_io_> googling it now... thanks
[10:08] <zoli2k> shift-wreck: setting the PWD variable?
[10:08] <shift-wreck> zoli2k i dont think so
[10:09] <zoli2k> shift-wreck: what is OB menu?
[10:10] <nbeebo> is there any haxxor program that helps u with removing crap u dont want from home?
[10:10] <mgolisch> nbeebo: yeah there is, its called rm
[10:10] <Guest34521> Where can I get support for ndiswrapper? I tried various tutorials and it still not seeing my device
[10:10] <mgolisch> :)
[10:10] <nbeebo> mgolisch: i knew some1 would say that
[10:11] <shift-wreck> i just want to start a java app that resides in "~/bin/tedv096". the command is "java -jar ted.jar" i just need to know the syntax.
[10:11] <roland> nbeebo: what exactly you don't want?
[10:12] <Guest50661> i want to setup a http and jsp server in ubuntu 8.10 ny help ?
[10:12] <nbeebo> roland: configs and left over folders etc, folders mostly cause they wont disappear after purge
[10:12] <zoli2k> !ndiswrapper > Guest34521
[10:12] <jNoxx> who have radeon HD3***?
[10:12] <jNoxx> It is little touble(
[10:13] <_io_> so in essence, the folder I want is "/etc/pm/sleep.d/"
[10:13] <pc_doode> Can anybody please help me get Yahoo Games to work in Firefox/3.0b5 under Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Desktop Edition (64-bit)?
[10:13] <_io_> thanks bullgard4 btw.
[10:13] <roland> nbeebo: sry can't help you with that, not that good with scripts jet
[10:14] <roland> nbeebo: ask me next year ;)
[10:14] <zoli2k> shift-wreck: you can create a .sh file containing the path variable PWD="~/bin/tevd09" and in a new line the command "java ...."
[10:15] <MadsRH> I can playback audio in Banshee, but Rythmbox and Totem works fine. Does anyone know why?
[10:15] <[c0re]> hi i am getting error configure: error: Can't find Python.h! You will need python's development package to compile gDesklets.
[10:15] <zoli2k> MadsRH: so everything works?
[10:15] <shift-wreck> zoli2k thank you. now i just need to learn how to make an sh file :)
[10:16] <shift-wreck> i google
[10:16] <sinuc> [c0re]: # aptitude search python|grep dev
[10:17] <MadsRH> zoli2k -> Not Banshee, but everything else :'(
[10:17] <pc_doode> :-$﻿Can anybody please help me get Yahoo Games to work in Firefox/3.0b5 under Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Desktop Edition (64-bit)?
[10:17] <Beererde> can i "blacklist" a package so it can't be installed?
[10:17] <visik7> hold
[10:17] <_io_> I'll test it and let you know... thanks again.
[10:17] <nbeebo> i think u can, but i dont know how, lol
[10:18] <gkasinath> Hello all and happy thanksgivings!
[10:18] <Beererde> lol
[10:18] <sinuc> http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+aptitude+blacklist+package&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[10:18] <sinuc> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=541173
[10:18] <sinuc> doesnt help tho yet
[10:19] <sinuc> just a way via synaptics, but should go with apt too
[10:19] <Rossen> I got an irritating graphic problem when i upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10, a picture says more than a thousand words so here is a link to said picture: http://picasaweb.google.com/jannelevenrot/Bildcache#5273650285661990994 Does anyone know how this could be fixed?
[10:19] <[c0re]> thanks SinII
[10:19] <[c0re]> thanks sinuc
[10:20] <gkasinath> question: Scan problem with FusionHDTV
[10:20] <zoli2k> Rossen: graphics card and driver?
[10:20] <thomasite> Hi. I just issued this command--> sysctl -a 2> /dev/null | grep -iE "rcvbuf|save" in the terminal and found out this: net.ipv4.tcp_no_metrics_save = 0. How do I set it to 1? Thanks!
[10:20] <nomego> hey guys, I
[10:21] <nomego> I'm trying to install ubuntu with unetbootin, but the installer can't find the disk
[10:21] <sinuc> thomasite: echo 1 > /proc/somewhere
[10:21] <erUSUL> thomasite: /etc/sysctl.d/*
[10:21] <dns53> echo val > to the /sys/ node
[10:21] <nomego> even though fdisk on sda works
[10:21] <pc_doode> ﻿Can anybody please help me get Yahoo Games to work in Firefox/3.0b5 under Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Desktop Edition (64-bit)?
[10:22] <sinuc> pc_doode: thats a meta question, you can repeat like you want, thats not an issue someone could help concretely.
[10:22] <sinuc> whats that flash probably? shall we quiz?
[10:22] <Rossen> Nvidia geforce 7600GS running "Nvidia accelerated graphics driver version 177"
[10:22] <zoli2k> thomasite: sysctl -w et.ipv4.tcp_no_metrics_save = 1
[10:23] <zetheroo1>  what would a kernel panic look like in the syslog?
[10:23] <zetheroo1> is a kernel panic recorded in the syslog?
[10:23] <nomego> zetheroo1: it would probably not get to syslog
[10:23] <nomego> zetheroo1: it would be in dmesg
[10:23] <zetheroo1> nomego: and not in the kernel log either?
[10:23] <zoli2k> thomasite: or edit the /etc/sysctl.conf  file
[10:23] <dns53> zetheroo1 probably not
[10:23] <sinuc> if the kernelpanic happens on statup i dont think your syslogd is startedt there, so its not in there i think
[10:23] <Rossen> Other info if needed: Nvidia nforce 2 chipset and athlon XP 2400+ CPU
[10:24] <[c0re]> !compile
[10:24] <_io_> thanks bullgard4.  Worked like a charm.
[10:24] <sinuc> !getlaid
[10:24] <sinuc> pff
[10:24] <_io_> sound after hibernate works great now.
[10:24] <pc_doode> !java
[10:24] <dns53> you need the java plugin which you also need to install
[10:25] <zetheroo1> dns53: what would a kernel panic be recorded as?
[10:25] <sinuc> anyone running wine and diablo2?
[10:25] <gkasinath> !scan
[10:25] <Rossen> zoli2k: If memory serves me right i was running the same drivers in 8.04
[10:26] <dns53> zetheroo1 a message on your screen and everyhing else dead, logging is user land, and if the kernel has crashed nothing is there to write the panic message
[10:26] <erUSUL> !appdb | sinuc
[10:26] <zoli2k> Rossen: you can try to reconfigure the X server, I don't know what are the exact changes between  xorg  in 8.04 and 8.10, but the old config file may be incompatible with your system.
[10:27] <zetheroo1> dns53: my system freezes with the caps blinking ... do you mean there is no way to record what is causing this?
[10:27] <sinuc> erUSUL: i dont need assistance, thanks. its running perfect for me
[10:27] <dns53> zetheroo1 well xorg messes up what's being displayed in the terminal
[10:27] <sinuc> erUSUL: i actually wanted to know if someone else did try it, but ill check the winehq db and maybe add my experience, thanks dude. youre so wonderful...
[10:28] <erUSUL> sinuc: no problem
[10:28] <thomasite> Thanks!
[10:28] <Aperculum> can I backup my user configs somehow?
[10:28] <rdw200169>  jump
[10:28] <xmehrba1> zOLI2K R U STILL THERE?
[10:28] <gkasinath> Can anyone help with DVB-T Scanning?
[10:28] <thomasite> By the way, I'm using an Acer Aspire 5570 laptop that runs on 8.10. How do I get the driver for the wifi?
[10:28] <bazhang> xmehrba1, no caps
[10:28] <xmehrba1> oh sorry
[10:29] <xmehrba1> I am newbie
[10:29] <zoli2k> xmehrba1: yes, do you have problem with the installation of ndiswrapper?
[10:29] <xmehrba1> yes
[10:30] <zoli2k> xmehrba1: try to follow these instructions http://www.colinblog.com/2008/04/how-to-install-broadcom-bcm4310-usb.html
[10:30] <erUSUL> thomasite: which wifi card?
[10:31] <zoli2k> xmehrba1: you will need to install these programs: ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-utils ndisgtk
[10:31] <ChrisDavaz> Anyone having trouble with SCIM on 8.10?
[10:31] <bazhang> ChrisDavaz, with firefox or other trouble
[10:32] <ChrisDavaz> bazhang, can't select an IME
[10:32] <mywisdom> hi hello
[10:32] <xmehrba1> Dear , I tried, but it says it is installed , but when try to ndsiwrapper -l fails
[10:32] <bazhang> ChrisDavaz, what do you mean an ime
[10:32] <mywisdom> hello
[10:32] <mywisdom> hi
[10:32] <mywisdom> hello
[10:32] <ChrisDavaz> bazhang, Input Method Editor... I can't choose to type in Chinese or any language
[10:32] <bazhang> mywisdom, hi
[10:33] <bazhang> mywisdom, this is ubuntu support; do you have a support question
[10:33] <zoli2k> xmehrba1: sudo nediswrapper -l ????
[10:33] <ChrisDavaz> bazhang, click on the SCIM icon on the system tray and I don't get a menu to select the IME
[10:33] <mywisdom> no
[10:33] <mywisdom> btw i can not access my cdrom
[10:33] <mywisdom> from my ubuntu
[10:33] <bazhang> mywisdom, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:33] <mywisdom> ok
[10:33] <mywisdom> thank you
[10:34] <bazhang> ChrisDavaz, did you set up the global engine and have all the language support installed
[10:34] <gkasinath> ubuntu-support: Need help with DVB-T scanning
[10:34] <ChrisDavaz> bazhang, yes i did all that
[10:34] <xmehrba1> ndiswrapper-common is already the newest version.
[10:35] <shatogtar> hi there
[10:35] <nbeebo> omg what should i choose, so hard; pcman, rox, thunar or nautilus!!!??
[10:35] <rdw200169> ChrisDavaz, bazhang i installed scim, with all the language support and fonts etc... for korean, and it works quite well
[10:35] <ChrisDavaz> rdw200169, i have it working on 8.04...
[10:35] <xmehrba1> zoli , it says ndsiwrapper could not install!!!!
[10:35] <gkasinath> ubuntu-support: Need help with DVB-T scanning
[10:35] <ChrisDavaz> rdw200169, this is a new install of 8.10 and i have the latest version of scim
[10:36] <rdw200169> ChrisDavaz, oh, this is an upgrade issue then!
[10:36] <bazhang> ChrisDavaz, what error are you getting if any
[10:36] <rdw200169> ChrisDavaz, this makes me even less interested in upgrading ...
[10:36] <shatogtar> Is there someone who would like to help me? I have low connectivity (16%) to my wlan-router and cant imagine why that would be.
[10:36] <ChrisDavaz> rdw200169, bazhang no error (and i didn't upgrade this is a different machine)
[10:36] <zoli2k> gkasinath: the easiest way to go to use kaffeine for channel scanning. It will save your channels to ~/.kde/share/apps/kaffeine/channels.dvb
[10:37] <gkasinath> zoli2k: I used scan and it just gave me tuning failed. Would kaffine be able to tune in?
[10:37] <zoli2k> xmehrba1: did you tried sudo ndisgtk?
[10:37] <h3ct0r> shatogtar: how far is the router away?
[10:37] <shatogtar> next room approx. 10 meter
[10:38] <xmehrba1> Command Not found!!!!
[10:38] <brodymcd> would someone please help me? I have a laptop running 8.10, and it was fine... then yesterday, NO SOUND... don't know if it was due to an upgrade, or what... can someone please help?
[10:38] <zoli2k> gkasinath: If the hardware driver is installed properly, kaffeine will able to do the scan.
[10:38] <graydot> darn, ups is down. whenever power goes all systems are restarting. :(
[10:38] <graydot> sorry wrong channel
[10:38] <h3ct0r> shatogtar: and when you sit next to the router, is it still that bad?
[10:38] <ChrisDavaz> rdw200169, bazhang maybe I need to install "Language Support" stuff... hold on
[10:38] <zoli2k> gkasinath: you must also check if you are in the "video" group so you have access to the device.
[10:39] <gkasinath> zoli2k: thanks for that. The drivers seem to be alright. The card is detected at boot up. The firmware is all there.
[10:39] <gkasinath> zol12k: how do I know if I am in the video group?
[10:39] <shatogtar> i have a desktop pc so that would be some work but i could try that
[10:39] <zoli2k> xmehrba1: did you installed the packages using: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-utils ndisgtk ????
[10:40] <h3ct0r> oh okay..i thought notebook
[10:40] <wigren> Hi, I'm having trouble with forwarding X over ssh
[10:40] <gnomefreak> zoli2k: ndisgtk should install all of the above
[10:40] <zoli2k> gkasinath: use the users-admin utility.
[10:41] <gnomefreak> zoli2k: nevermind i was thinking of -common
[10:41] <wigren> According to: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto#Running%20GUI%20Programs I have it set up right, but when I try to launch an application I get "X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication."
[10:41] <olivier_> Hello Ubuntu people. Can someone help me to automount an lvm2 partition at startup ?
[10:42] <ExecutiveOrder> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xjvry03e6U
[10:42] <hybrid_> hi, can there be any software compability issues in ubuntu 64-bit?
[10:42] <zoli2k> gnomefreak: I recommended a how-to to the user which contains these commands. I assume that the xmehrba1 is following this guide, so I don't wanted to confuse him.
[10:42] <Rossen> zoli2k: Thanks, seems to have worked somehow :)
[10:42] <xmehrba1> Zoli2k : yes dear
[10:42] <xmehrba1> I found it
[10:42] <gkasinath> brodymcd: what sound card do you have?
[10:43] <bazhang> ExecutiveOrder, do you have a question about that video? otherwise dont paste it here
[10:43] <shatogtar> h3ct0r: so any other idea? I even loose the connection sometimes especially when running ktorrent
[10:43] <ChrisDavaz> shit i can't click on flash stuff!
[10:43] <Vinceman> can files disappear from your harddisk when you change permission and ownership?
[10:43] <ChrisDavaz> i can play flash videos but can't click on anything
[10:43] <Vinceman> mind the language
[10:43] <bazhang> ChrisDavaz, no cursing please
[10:43] <ChrisDavaz> anyone have this trouble?
[10:43] <ChrisDavaz> oops
[10:43] <h3ct0r> shatogtar: do you have another wlan device? Notebook?
[10:44] <shatogtar> h3ct0r: yeah my ipod touch
[10:44] <zoli2k> xmehrba1: can you run "sudo apt-get install  ndisgtk" and send me the last line of the output?
[10:44] <hybrid_> can there be any software compability issues in ubuntu 64-bit?
[10:44] <h3ct0r> shatogtar: how is the connection with your ipod?
[10:44] <h3ct0r> shatogtar: from the same place
[10:45] <nomego> hybrid_: what do you mean?
[10:45] <dns53> hybrid_ flash (they released an a beta this week) and java applets are buggy
[10:45] <hybrid_> if theres any problems running software that might be only 32-bit compatible
[10:45] <xmehrba1> ok
[10:45] <Vinceman> forgive me my brutal name
[10:45] <wigren> Can any one help with X over ssh?
[10:45] <nomego> java will be 64-bit in jre 6u12 (2009 Q1) and flash is beta for 64-bit
[10:46] <zoli2k> wigren: what is the problem?
[10:46] <dns53> you run ssh user@port -X and run your applicaiton
[10:46] <wigren> zoli2k: According to: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto#Running%20GUI%20Programs I have it set up right, but when I try to launch an application I get "X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication."
[10:46] <xmehrba1> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 142 not upgraded.
[10:46] <hybrid_> okay so its still recommended to run ubuntu in 32-bit to get the most out of the OS?
[10:46] <shatogtar> h3ct0r: haha cant even join the network today, yesterday it was possible
[10:46] <gkasinath> zol12k: Added myself and root into video.. after creating the group (name=video) still no luck
[10:46] <gkasinath> zoli2k: Added myself and root into video.. after creating the group (name=video) still no luck
[10:47] <zoli2k> wigren: ssh -X yourname@servername
[10:47] <djiezes> Hi, How do I change grub booting options? I installed Fedora10 & now it boots from the partition sda5. my Ubuntu is on sda9 and I want my pc to boot from ubuntu's menu.lst , not fedora's. Does "root (hd0,8)" suffice or do I also need to use the command "setup (hd0,8)"? Any ideas how to go forward without losing Ubuntu's menu.lst ?
[10:48] <zoli2k> gkasinath: can you find the DVB device file in the /dev/ directory?
[10:48] <Sorcererbob> djiezes: you'd have to reinstall GRUB then. Why not copy the ubuntu file over the fedora file?
[10:48] <wigren> zoli2k: Thats how I logged in, and I'm connected now. But I'm still having the same trouble. I've even tried ssh -X -Y user@....
[10:48] <brodymcd> gkasinath - realtek hdmi, I think - how can I check for sure?
[10:48] <xmehrba1> Zoli2k, here is "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 142 not upgraded."
[10:48] <hybrid_> or can Ubuntu 64-bit run 32-bit applications?
[10:49] <gkasinath> zol12k: yes. /dev/adapter0/.. are available.
[10:49] <gkasinath> zoli2k: yes. /dev/adapter0/.. are available.
[10:49] <djiezes> Sorcererbob: when updating, ubuntu sometimes makes change to menu.lst (new kernel etc), so I don't think that'll work if I just copy the menu.lst.
[10:49] <wigren> zoli2k: If it helps, I'm running Ubuntu 8.04 and the server is Xubuntu 8.04
[10:49] <zoli2k> gkasinath: check the permissions: ls -l /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0
[10:49] <zoli2k> wigren: what is the error message?
[10:50] <Sorcererbob> djiezes: fair enough. Here is a (very old) guide on restoring grub: http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore/
[10:50] <shatogtar> h3ct0r: okay i will try to get near the router, and the check in later bye and thx
[10:50] <wigren> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[10:50] <wigren> Error: cannot open display: localhost:10.0
[10:50] <djiezes> Sorcererbob: ok, i'll check it out. thank you
[10:50] <h3ct0r> np bye
[10:50] <Sorcererbob> np
[10:50] <brodymcd> gkasinath - I tried the sudo killall pulseaudio thing... and that didn't work
[10:50] <Guest34521> HELP ME PLEASE, I tried everything on the wiki page with ndiswrapper, and I try to load several drivers on the Alfa 500mw cd and the card still doesn't appear in iwconfig. ndiswrapper -l says device present (alternate driver r8187). The r8187 which was manually installed a day ago is blacklisted though. HELP me please I don't know what to do
[10:50] <gkasinath> zoli2k: crw and rw for demux0, dvr0, frontend0 and net0
[10:51] <bogdi> hi, can anyone help me with something ?
[10:51] <zoli2k> gkasinath: the groups are "root" and "video" ?
[10:51] <xmehrba1> Zoli2k
[10:51] <gkasinath> brodycmd: type lspci in a terminal and locate the "Audio Device"
[10:51] <roland> when i started trying ubuntu, i installed it on a external usb harddrive... how can i move it to my laptops internal one?
[10:52] <wigren> zoli2k: X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. Error: cannot open display: localhost:10.0
[10:52] <jitu3485> hi, I am using dual boot ( windows xp and ubuntu 8.10) on my 80GB hard disk. As soon as I remove cd drive  and restart my system It gives Grub Read Error and if cd drive is connected it do a normal boot . what to do ? can't keep cd drive connected.
[10:52] <bogdi> hi, I try to install ubuntu 8.10 and i`m getting the "error" busybox... initramfs
[10:52] <gkasinath> zoli2k: yup. Now I ve made chmod 777 everything in /dev
[10:53] <bogdi> dunno what to do more, I tried every boot options from the forums ... please help me
[10:53] <zoli2k> wigren:  check if your /etc/hosts file contains a  line  "127.0.0.1 localhost"
[10:53] <gkasinath> bogdi: please dont PM me. I am not an expert I am just trying to help when someone else is helping me.
[10:54] <zoli2k> gkasinath: and kaffeine doesn't work after?
[10:54] <gkasinath> zoli2k: kaffeine started up.. asked for the location.. and then opened up its UI.
[10:55] <jitu3485> bogdi, open your cpu , disconnect cd drive completely and than reconnect drive and try installation , I was having same problem and I did the same few hours back
[10:55] <gkasinath> zoli2k: scanning with kaffeine
[10:55] <wigren> zoli2k: It has these two: 127.0.0.1  localhost, 127.0.1.1  stream-server
[10:55] <bazhang> bogdi, md5 the iso; reburn at very low speed; do the disk integrity check
[10:55] <bazhang> bogdi, if all else fails try the alternate cd
[10:55] <bazhang> !md5 | bogdi
[10:56] <zoli2k> wigren: try to run xhost +localhost (without sudo)
[10:56] <gkasinath> zoli2k: Kaffeine scans and reports around 100% strength.. but after scans, the "found" section doesnt list any
[10:56] <Guest34521> someone Please help me of what I said earlier this link on the ubuntu wiki doesn't work either http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,list/
[10:56] <bazhang> bogdi, no need to listen to what jitu3485 just said
[10:57] <gkasinath> zoli2k: also when scanning SNR is 0%
[10:57] <wigren> zoli2k: This is whats returned: X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. xhost:  unable to open display "localhost:10.0"
[10:57] <zoli2k> gkasinath: are you scanning for terrestrial  digital TV?
[10:57] <gkasinath> zoli2k: yes. Free to Air channels in Perth Australia
[10:59] <zoli2k> gkasinath: maybe stupid qustion, but your antenna is strong enough? with small USB DVB stick I also had problem to get a good signal?
[11:00] <zoli2k> wigren: the ssh server allows X11 forwarding? can you try the X11 forwarding trough different server?
[11:00] <gkasinath> zoli2k: Not a stupid question. I am using indoor antenna.. It works well on WinXP.. and Kaffeine reports 90% signal strength and 0% SNR.. whats SNR by the way?
[11:00] <calwig> help help help, wpa2 problems, i cant connect to the network with ubuntu hardy, new installation only 1 day, another computer with the same installation can connect to the same network
[11:00] <Guest34521> HELP ME PLEASE, I tried everything on the wiki page with ndiswrapper, and I try to load several drivers on the Alfa 500mw cd and the card still doesn't appear in iwconfig. ndiswrapper -l says device present (alternate driver r8187). The r8187 which was manually installed a day ago is blacklisted though. HELP me please I don't know what to do :((
[11:01] <zoli2k> gkasinath: Signal to Noise Ratio
[11:01] <gkasinath> zoli2k: ah.. ok.
[11:02] <Nickiniz> slm
[11:02] <zoli2k> gkasinath: I would say that this may be a problem with the device driver ...
[11:02] <calwig> help help help, wpa2 problems, i cant connect to the network with ubuntu hardy, new installation only 1 day, another computer with the same installation can connect to the same network
[11:02] <gkasinath> zoli2k: why would kaffeine report 90% strength then.. ?
[11:03] <zoli2k> gkasinath: which DVB card are you using?
[11:04] <gkasinath> zoli2k: Fusion HDTV Hybrid
[11:04] <le1> hello
[11:04] <zamak> hi!
[11:05] <wigren> zoli2k: I've tried on my dekstop at home that's running Ubuntu 8.04 and it worked. I didn't even do any thing special, just connected with the -X option. I'll try on another Xubuntu machine here at work
[11:05] <le1> i have a problem with the sound in the Internet how can i fix it ?!
[11:05] <xmehrba1> zolik2k, please continue support
[11:05] <gkasinath> lel: what do you mean by "sound in the internet"?
[11:06] <le1> for example in youtube  the video work but the sound not working
[11:06] <olivier_> lel are you French ?
[11:07] <vladtsepesh19841> i guys i'm trying to sync my smartphone with evolution address book following this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30936 but i have a problem, when i run the first step "dmesg" in terminal, in the output i have not any IPAQ or PDA word!!!! how can i do??? please help me
[11:07] <le1> the music
[11:07] <roland> le1: try messing with the sound preferences, it worked for me
[11:07] <huwenfeng> hi , is there any good code editor that can fold and unfold code blocks?  like in c,  { } can fold
[11:07] <gnuskool> Guest34521: have you looked at restricted drivers in the admin menu?
[11:07] <Guest34521> gnuskool: what do you mean?
[11:08] <Guest34521> gnuskool: etc/modprobe.d/blacklist ?
[11:08] <kompi10> hai
[11:08] <roland> le1: change the default output device to something different and back again etc.
[11:08] <kompi10> ko ada masalah yach
[11:08] <gnuskool> look in admin, hardware, there should be a list of hardware that is present, but requires non-free drivers
[11:08] <gkasinath> roland: VI supports code-folds.
[11:08] <kompi10> ubunu sandrose
[11:08] <vladtsepesh19841> i guys i'm trying to sync my smartphone with evolution address book following this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30936 but i have a problem, when i run the first step "dmesg" in terminal, in the output i have not any IPAQ or PDA word!!!! how can i do??? please help me
[11:08] <huwenfeng> vi support code fold?
[11:09] <wigren> zoli2k: I followed this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-855777.html and it seems to be working now. Thanks for all the help, you rock!
[11:09] <kompi10> code area
[11:09] <kompi10> mangan sate
[11:09] <roland> gkasinath: don't care :P
[11:09] <bazhang> kompi10, english please
[11:09] <kompi10> nyang pingger ndalan enek tenan
[11:09] <gkasinath> roland: lol
[11:09] <rhusar> cmon dude, this is english channel
[11:09] <le1> maybe i have to install the sound or something but i dont how
[11:09] <vladtsepesh19841> nobody can help me to sync my smartphone?
[11:10] <ikonia> vladtsepesh19841: lots of smart phones are on-noncompatible OS's and applications to sync
[11:10] <ikonia> vladtsepesh19841: what information do you want to sync and what is the phoens details
[11:10] <le1> how to install the sound
[11:10] <gkasinath> huwenfeng: http://www.vim.org/htmldoc/usr_28.html
[11:10] <rhusar> lel: apt-get install sound (joke)
[11:10] <le1> thxs
[11:10] <rhusar> lel: works out of the box for me ;)
[11:10] <roland> le1: you're not providing any information about your system
[11:11] <vladtsepesh19841> my phone is a samsung sgh-i600 also called as blackjack and i wanto to sync only my contacts
[11:11] <gnuskool> Guest34521: if u see your net card there, is it activated?
[11:11] <ikonia> vladtsepesh19841: thats a windows smart phone isn't it ?
[11:11] <kompi10> ada noopo?
[11:11] <vladtsepesh19841> yes
[11:11] <ikonia> kompi10: PLEASE - this is an english channel
[11:11] <bazhang> kompi10, indonesia?
[11:11] <kompi10> yes ai you look
[11:11] <Guest34521> gnuskool: it's activated, but when I activate nidswrapper it doesn't show in ifconfig
[11:11] <bazhang> !id | kompi10
[11:12] <ikonia> vladtsepesh19841: your going to struggle with this a little, in that the contacts are held within a propriatary database on the phone, and the software needed to make a link between ubuntu and the phone is not available
[11:12] <Guest34521> gnuskool: I have 2 cards, one is ath9k and one is the usb one rtl8187 which I'm trying to make it work with nidswrapper
[11:12] <rangaparma> hola
[11:12] <sinuc> !id | sinuc
[11:12] <calwig> How do I put the Network Manager icon back to the panel?
[11:13] <sinuc> oh thats like tld
[11:13] <le1> ﻿roland do u know how can i make it work ?!
[11:13] <Guest34521> calwig: right click add panel, and you will see it in the list
[11:13] <rhusar> vladtsepesh19841: is synching through web possible or somthing online-like?
[11:13] <calwig> Guest34521: looking for it but its not there (in the add panel section)
[11:13] <vladtsepesh19841> but the 90% of smartphone is windos mobile based so is not possible to sync contact from smartphone to ubuntu???
[11:14] <ikonia> vladtsepesh19841 depends on the phones storage and connection support
[11:14] <Guest34521> calwig: network monitor search for it
[11:14] <sinuc> i just connected my atomic weapon of mass destruction to my usb port, but ubuntu doesnt seem to load the wrong modules, what im doing wrong?!?
[11:14] <ikonia> sinuc can you stop messing around please.
[11:14] <sinuc> indeed.
[11:14] <calwig> ok
[11:14] <zetheroo1> what version of madwifi does Intrepid use?
[11:14] <vladtsepesh19841> but my phone support all currently available connection
[11:14] <le1> how to let the sound work ?!
[11:14] <calwig> Guest34521: but that is only the network monitor, the one that I need is the network manager, to connect to wireless/wired networks with encryption
[11:15] <ikonia> vladtsepesh19841: there is a software layer between those connections to share data
[11:15] <Shoopuf1> Anyone know why a2ensite works but i can't seem to a2dissite
[11:15] <ikonia> Shoopuf1: you must have at least one site enabled to act as default, how many are enabled when you try to disable the site
[11:16] <Guest34521> calwig: you don't see it at all not even after a restart , and you can see with iwconfig that your wireless card is there ?
[11:16] <Shoopuf1> ikonia: I got 3 enabled now... default and 2 other ones... Now that I look at it, it seems like a2ensite isnt working too... maybei 'm in the wrong directory?
[11:16] <huwenfeng> gkasinath: OK, thank you
[11:16] <zetheroo1> anyone know?
[11:16] <Shoopuf1> i'm in /etc/apache2/sites-available
[11:16] <ikonia> zetheroo1 anyone know what /
[11:16] <zetheroo1> what version of madwifi does Intrepid use?
[11:16] <VSpike> Very strange. Why does Hardy backports contain unison 2.27 but Intrepid has 2.13?
[11:16] <ikonia> zetheroo1 check it with dpkg -l
[11:17] <VSpike> Would you not expect 8.04 backports to be <= 8.10 versions?
[11:17] <vladtsepesh19841> so you tell me its impossible to sync windows mobile with ubuntu....no way?? i'm sad about it
[11:17] <vladtsepesh19841> ;(
[11:17] <ikonia> vladtsepesh19841 your not listening to what I've said, but yes, thats teh bototm line
[11:17] <calwig> Guest34521: its just the icon that I need. I installed wicd as the network manager. Then wicd didnt allow me to connect via WPA+WPA2 so then I went back to network-manager... however the icon is not on the panel. only the network monitor which is a different icon. and on the add panel section the applet isnt there, and I dont know where to find this to add it
[11:17] <calwig> Guest34521: i will check synaptic
[11:17] <VSpike> vladtsepesh19841: you could try scheduleworld
[11:17] <xmehrba1> hey Some one pleae help me
[11:17] <zetheroo1> ikonia: madwifi was not in the list
[11:17] <ikonia> Shoopuf1: you need to specify a full path to the site
[11:18] <xmehrba1> I want to install a wl on dell studio
[11:18] <ikonia> !info madwifi
[11:18] <ikonia> hang on
[11:18] <VSpike> vladtsepesh19841: it is free and acts as a sync hub between google calendar, gmail, evolution, thunderbird, outlook, windows mobile and probably more
[11:18] <bazhang> madwifi-tools
[11:18] <vladtsepesh19841> VSpike what is it?
[11:18] <le1> the game soundtrack not working how may i fix this problem
[11:18] <vladtsepesh19841> wow
[11:18] <VSpike> vladtsepesh19841: http://www.scheduleworld.com/
[11:19] <zetheroo1> !info madwifi-tools
[11:19] <ikonia> !info madwifi hardy
[11:19] <Guest34521> calwig: yes check it, but just go to ssytem - prefferences - sessions , and check if network manager is ticked to startup
[11:19] <vladtsepesh19841> VSpike i love you....it is awesome!!!!
[11:19] <zetheroo1> I thought ubuntu used the madwif drivers by default!?
[11:19] <xmehrba1> ﻿I want to install a wl on dell studio some one help plz
[11:19] <ikonia> zetheroo1: ahh you found it, well done
[11:19] <Guest34521> calwig: wicd could've disabled i
[11:19] <VSpike> vladtsepesh19841: yw :) it's not 100% perfect but it's a very cool solution
[11:19] <ikonia> xmehrba1: wl ?
[11:19] <Guest34521> it*
[11:20] <xmehrba1> yes
[11:20] <xmehrba1> Wireless
[11:20] <zetheroo1> ikonia: madwifi is supped to be in the linux-restricted-modules package ...
[11:20] <xmehrba1> dell studio BCM  4310
[11:20] <xmehrba1> tried several way, not works
[11:20] <zetheroo1> ikonia: but how do I know what version its using?
[11:20] <ikonia> !wifi > xmehrba1
[11:20] <calwig> Guest34521: yeah wicd disabled it, then i reinstalled it on my own but didnt show up on the panel, however i didnt know about sessions! will check :)
[11:20] <ikonia> zetheroo1: modinfo on the module
[11:20] <zoli2k> xmehrba1: I asked you twice  to send me the last line of the command I sent you. If you don't give enough information nobody can help you.
[11:21] <zetheroo1> ikonia: sorry to sound so silly ... but what would the module be?
[11:21] <Guest34521> calwig: then it means that it's probably disabled in sessions, let me know
[11:21] <calwig> Guest34521: enabled but i must restart the session
[11:21] <calwig> yep, brb
[11:21] <ikonia> zetheroo1: search the modules dir for mad* I don't use it so I don't know
[11:22] <xmehrba1> my probles is that Icoudnt install NDSIwrapper
[11:22] <ikonia> zetheroo1: why don't you explain the problem instead of looking for info like the versions
[11:22] <calwig> Guest34521: well nm-applet was enabled, and so was wicd, so disabled wicd now, see what happens
[11:22] <zetheroo1> ikonia: I am just wondering if I should bother compiling the madwifi drivers 0.9.4 or if they are the ones being used already
[11:23] <xmehrba1> Hey Zoli2k, I have sent u
[11:23] <ikonia> zetheroo1: unless you want to break your dependency tracking, you should compile nothing
[11:23] <mrwes> re
[11:23] <ikonia> zetheroo1: unless you are having a problem that you KNOW is fixed is a specific version you should compile nothing
[11:23] <xmehrba1> ﻿(03:18:33 PM) xmehrba1: Zoli2k, here is "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 142 not upgraded."
[11:24] <zetheroo1> ikonia: ok well .... my system hangs from time to time ... thats all ... and I was wondering if its the wireless doing it
[11:24] <heogen> heogen
[11:24] <heogen> hi
[11:24] <ikonia> your whole system ?
[11:24] <ikonia> zetheroo1: your whole system ?
[11:24] <piquadrat> Hi! I'm wondering if there's a PPA or something like that with the 2.6.28 kernel. I tried Fedora10 yesterday, and boy does than intel chip fly with GEM enabled!
[11:24] <zetheroo1> ikonia: yes
[11:24] <heogen> someone can help me, with the get out pc to tv
[11:24] <ikonia> zetheroo1: what makes you think it's your wirless card?
[11:24] <heogen> my video card is S3 savage
[11:24] <xmehrba1> u got it Zoli2k?
[11:24] <Guest34521> HELP ME PLEASE, I tried everything on the wiki page with ndiswrapper, and I try to load several drivers on the Alfa 500mw cd and the card still doesn't appear in iwconfig. ndiswrapper -l says device present (alternate driver r8187). The r8187 which was manually installed a day ago is blacklisted though. HELP me please I don't know what to do :((
[11:25] <zoli2k> xmehrba1: thanks :)
[11:25] <zetheroo1> ikonia: someone was saying in a forum that they found out that it was their card ...
[11:25] <rc55> Does anyone know how to add extra mime types to lighttpd under ubuntu server?
[11:25] <zoli2k> xmehrba1:  well, you installed ndisgtk, but you don't have ndisgtk command. right?
[11:25] <zetheroo1> ikonia: but they had an intel card. ... its all very strange
[11:25] <ikonia> zetheroo1: so your considering blindly upgrading drivers to fix a problem you have zero fact on
[11:25] <ikonia> zetheroo1: you need to sit down and think about what your doing and why before jumping in like that
[11:26] <ikonia> it's jumping in like that, that can make your system hang
[11:26] <xmehrba1> i have it now
[11:26] <xmehrba1> but Driver is not working
[11:26] <zetheroo1> ikonia: I am doing that because I have been struggling for weeks with this issue and no one seems to have any sound reasoning about how to locate the cause
[11:26] <ikonia> zetheroo1: thats crazy
[11:27] <xmehrba1> I have downloaded the required .inf files, but it says it is not valid driver
[11:27] <zetheroo1> ikonia: tell me about it
[11:27] <zetheroo1> :)
[11:27] <huwenfeng> hi, i got a question ,   i kill -15 my gnome-screen-saver,  and now , when i press ctrl+alt+L, i can not lock the screen! but i do not want to restart my computer,  how can i figure that?
[11:27] <HetaUma> Hi I have upgraded yesterday 8.10 to the new kernel -10 and after last reboot my screen resolution fell back to 640*480. using nvidia driver(also uninstalled it and reinstalled it with no difference) is there any known bug?
[11:28] <heogen> Hi I have a problem with the video S3 ProsavageDDR I want to watch movie in my tv from my laptop
[11:28] <heogen> Hi I have a problem with the video S3 ProsavageDDR I want to watch movie in my tv from my laptop
[11:28] <heogen> Hi I have a problem with the video S3 ProsavageDDR I want to watch movie in my tv from my laptop
[11:28] <ikonia> zetheroo1: 1.) run memtest on your laptop for say a day - 24 hours, check for any erors 2.) clear down the lgos before every shutdown so you get a clean set of logs to maybe caputre anything to do with the hang 3.) when your machien hangs, check your caps lock key for the light going on and off 4.) start running the machine with bits of hardware disabled to find out if it makes a difference
[11:28] <FloodBot2> heogen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:28] <ikonia> heogen: stop flooding the channel please
[11:28] <ikonia> heogen: ask one and wait for a response
[11:28] <heogen> ok. thank you and im sorry
[11:28] <heogen> ok
[11:28] <xmehrba1> Mr. ﻿zoli2k
[11:29] <zetheroo1> ikonia: it happens about 5 times a week ... so not heaps ... but too much ... and the caps lock LED light is blinking every time it happens
[11:29] <ikonia> zetheroo1: follow the steps I've suggested
[11:29] <zetheroo1> ikonia: can I skip the memtest? ... Windows works fine... I have it dual booting with XP Pro
[11:29] <ikonia>  zetheroo1 no
[11:30] <ikonia> zetheroo1: memtest is the most critical
[11:30] <ikonia> zetheroo1: windows working fine does not mean it's fine
[11:30] <huwenfeng> i want to lock my screen , how can i do that? after i kill -15 gnome screen saver!
[11:30] <zetheroo1> ikonia: as far as logs are concerned ... I have no idea what to look for
[11:31] <ikonia> zetheroo1: clear them down before each shutdown, then when you have the problem, post them for analysis
[11:31] <heogen> Any one know how can I configure my Video card S3 Prosavage for watch video in my tv?
[11:31] <zetheroo1> ikonia: the freeze happened just earlier today ... so there should be something in there already
[11:31] <ikonia> zetheroo1: you'll have a lot of info in the logs that is pointles, hence why I said keep clearing them down until you get the problem so you only have good stuff
[11:34] <slayer> Ubuntu is for redards, only.
[11:34] <erUSUL> slayer: yes, like good spelling
[11:34] <zetheroo1> ikonia: I don't mean to complain ... but isn't this kinda a step backwards? ... I mean things are worse than in Hardy ... and Hardy had issues Gutsy did not have ....
[11:34] <zetheroo1> :(
[11:35] <ikonia> zetheroo1 thats your perception
[11:35] <ikonia> zetheroo1: you chose to upgrade
[11:35] <slayer> erUSUL, is something wrong with my spelling, sir?
[11:35] <ikonia> zetheroo1: 8.04 is an LTS release
[11:35] <zetheroo1> ikonia: yes .. and I work with many machines every day
[11:36] <slayer> erUSUL, Ubuntu is assware
[11:36] <VSpike> Can anyone with 8.10 just do a "aptitude show unison" and tell me the version?  Want the check my repos aren't messed up
[11:36] <ikonia> slayer: thats not called for
[11:36] <slayer> s/redards/retards/
[11:36] <C0p3rn1c> pff I just did an update and now my nvidia drivers dont work anymore
[11:36] <zetheroo1> ikonia: 8.04 had issues that Gutsy did not have ... but i suppose that is now normal in Linux ...
[11:36] <ikonia> zetheroo1: not really now
[11:37] <zetheroo1> ikonia: maybe Linux cannot keep up with the flow of new hardware!?
[11:37] <zetheroo1> ikonia: like my laptop cannot even use a mic... not the internal nor external ...
[11:38] <heogen> Please any one know how can I get my movies in my laptop to get out to my tv?
[11:38] <zetheroo1> ikonia: how ridiculous is that?
[11:38] <ikonia> zetheroo1: maybe its you
[11:38] <le1> How to fix Firefox Flash Video Sound ?
[11:38] <zetheroo1> ikonia: that is not what the forums and bug reports say
[11:39] <ikonia> zetheroo1 don't use it then
[11:39] <le1> How to fix Firefox Flash Video Sound
[11:39] <edi_99> Hi guys, how can I completely remove LAMP?
[11:40] <zetheroo1> ikonia: I guess that is what it may come down to ... a lot of people (like myself) having really gotten gung ho about Linux ... and then we just get tired of issues and decide that Windows is a necessary evil ... :(
[11:40] <ikonia> zetheroo1: ok
[11:40] <edi_99> is there any way to do it through aptitude..?
[11:41] <heogen> HI how to switch in my laptop the put the image in the tv?
[11:41] <zetheroo1> ikonia: well thanks anyhow for giving me an idea what I am up against ... and a place to start ... if I ever find the time to debug the issue ...
[11:42] <heogen> my video is S3 ProsavageDDR
[11:42] <ikonia> zetheroo1: no problem
[11:42] <VSpike> edi_99: you probably just want to remove AMP otherwise the relevant way is to format the disk ;)
[11:43] <diffred> anyone with knowledge on how to access a postgreSQL database from a java JDBC code?
[11:43] <VSpike> edi_99: I'm no expert but I'd use "aptitude search apache | grep ^i", "aptitude search mysql | grep ^i" and "aptitude search php | grep ^i"
[11:43] <VSpike> edi_99: I'd then pick from that the bits I wanted to remove and do an "sudo aptitude remove ....... " on the whole lot
[11:44] <edi_99> VSpike: that sounds like a lot of work.. :)
[11:44] <edi_99> VSpike: is there any way to use live cd and reinstall the os without erasing the data on the disk?
[11:44] <j800r> hey, i installed a digital tv software for gnome from the repos, it works ok except i don't get sound on it. can anyone help? :\
[11:45] <VSpike> edi_99: *that* sounds like a lot of work!
[11:45] <_pirinto_> Is it posible to use a scanner with sane from the terminal with no X environment at all? Which packages are needed except for libsane
[11:46] <zetheroo1> what is the package that needs to be installed for ATI drivers?
[11:46] <VSpike> edi_99: try this. "sudo aptitude install pastebinit && aptitude search php mysql apache | grep ^i | pastebinit"
[11:46] <edi_99> VSpike: argh.... All I wanted to do is use php, then one told me to install LAMP and now I'm without my os and I guess I would have to format my comp... dang...
[11:46] <VSpike> edi_99: you're without your OS? why?
[11:47] <piquadrat> I'm wondering if there's a PPA or something like that with the 2.6.28 kernel. I tried Fedora10 yesterday, and boy does than intel chip fly with GEM enabled!
[11:47] <edi_99> VSpike: I'm using my other comp right now... Well the only thing I get is the terminal line, where startx does not work
[11:48] <VSpike> edi_99: you didn't mention this part :) But that has nothing to do with lamp stack
[11:48] <VSpike> edi_99: did you install ubuntu server?
[11:49] <mib_blah> hello all, i'm a new convert... i just installed intrepid and found that my IDE (ATA harddrive detected as SCSI drive... it runs veery slow as dma is not available in this emulaed mode... any workaround?
[11:49] <lucax> hey guys, i was having some crashes with hardy... i left my computer on, screensaver was running and compiz as well... just dont know what happened, any ideas? should i disable compiz?
[11:50] <Shubbar> i have nvidia drivers 177 working, but now i cannot; there must be missing something or there is a conflict with another package?
[11:50] <edi_99> VSpike: I really don't know since it was my first time using tasksel.. I highlited  [*] LAMP Server and since then I only got terminal line
[11:51] <edi_99> VSpike: very very frustrating...
[11:51] <VSpike> edi_99: try running tasksel again and selecting ubuntu desktop (or kubuntu or xubuntu or whatever you had)
[11:51] <mib_blah> hmm... nobody seems to know ... time to switch back to debian..
[11:52] <Hiker1352> How can I run a Socks proxy server on my desktop, for others to connect?
[11:52] <Guest34521> HELP ME PLEASE, I tried everything on the wiki page with ndiswrapper, and I try to load several drivers on the Alfa 500mw cd and the card still doesn't appear in iwconfig. ndiswrapper -l says device present (alternate driver r8187). The r8187 which was manually installed a day ago is blacklisted though. HELP me please I don't know what to do
[11:52] <erUSUL> !realtek
[11:53] <edi_99> VSpike: I did that, it was not working, then I used apt and istalled kubuntu desktop, but it's still just a terminal line when I boot it
[11:54] <VSpike> edi_99: try "sudo invoke-rc.d kdm start"
[11:55] <Guest34521> erUSUL: was that for me because it's 8187b and I don't want "b" :(, I want to make ndiswrapper work
[11:56] <heogen> pc to tv out how can i do it my video card is S3 prosavage DDR
[11:57] <mgolisch> heogen: does it have a svideo or composite outlet?
[11:57] <edi_99> VSpike: it says that kdm is already running
[11:57] <VSpike> edi_99: really? tried ctrl-alt-F7
[11:57] <heogen> yeah
[11:58] <gaelfx> has anyone done the most recent kernel update? is it safe?
[11:58] <heogen> agolishch yeah this video have svideo
[11:58] <heogen> agolishch and it is connect to the tv with the wire
[11:58] <snuitje> geelfx: wfm
[11:59] <edi_99> VSpike: yeah..nothing... when I try startx, the errors I get are - failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist) and -no drivers available  -- fatal server error: no screens found
 yeah
[11:59] <gaelfx> snuitje: what does that mean?
[11:59] <ne2k__> I'm having a problem upgrading from 6.06 to 8.04. it takes a long time trying to calculate the upgrade, gives an error ("an unresolvable problem occured while calculating the upgrade") and aborts. It says that three problems could be causing it: 1. Upgrading to a pre-release 2. Running the current pre-release 3. Unofficial software packages. I suspect it's the third, as I have installed a...
[11:59] <ne2k__> ...few things like Google Desktop Search. I don't mind removing that sort of thing if it enables me to upgrade, but how do I work out which packages I need to remove?
[11:59] <snuitje> geelfx: works for me
[11:59] <gaelfx> ah, haha, thanks! I'm a little slow tonight
[12:00] <matteo_> When i try to start firefox i got this error in terminal:"Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.0.1 and 1.9.0.*.
[12:00] <matteo_> " any tips? I have ubuntu 8.04
 my video have svideo and now is connect to a wire to my tv
[12:00] <snuitje> geelfx: just woke up, 1pm here ^^
[12:00] <VSpike> edi_99: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
 do you know how can i resolve this problem pc to tv out?
[12:01] <bofer> hello
[12:01] <ziroday> matteo_: do you have an unfinished upgrade?
[12:01] <bofer> 我要说中文了。。
[12:02] <ziroday> !cn | bofer
[12:02] <bofer> OK。谢谢！
[12:02] <edi_99> VSpike: Use kernel frame buffer device interface: yes / no ?
[12:02] <heogen> pc to tv out how can i do it my video card is S3 prosavage DDR
[12:02] <majnoon> !en
[12:02] <ziroday> matteo_: and that error is?
[12:03] <matteo_> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[12:03] <matteo_> i did as it said
[12:03] <matteo_> now is running
[12:03] <VSpike> edi_99: Not 100% sure but I think not
[12:03] <ziroday> matteo_: great
[12:04] <matteo_> running a kind of upgrade i think
[12:04] <bullgard4> Can you confirm that nslookup is deprecated in favor of dig?
[12:05] <edi_99> VSpike: ok, I've reconfigured it. What should I do now?
[12:05] <VSpike> edi_99: try startx again
[12:06] <snuitje> bullgard4: they're both in dnsutils
[12:06] <bullgard4> snuitje: hm
[12:06] <le1> how to make firefox video sound work ?
[12:06] <snuitje> !codecs | le1
[12:06] <ziroday> le1: does it happen with flash only?
[12:07] <heogen> help me please if anyone know
[12:07] <heogen> pc to tv out how can i do it my video card is S3 prosavage DDR
[12:07] <snuitje> heogen: what are you trying to connect to your pc?
[12:07] <heogen> my tv
 my tv
[12:08] <Juanolo> Hola a todods
[12:08] <edi_99> VSpike: I can't believe...it's working
[12:08] <mgolisch> heogen: iam not sure the driver for that card support svideo or composite tv out at all
[12:08] <snuitje> heogen: connect to video in on your tv
[12:08] <VSpike> edi_99: yay!
[12:08] <ne2k__> is there a way to get a list of packages installed that have or have not come from a certain repository?
[12:08] <edi_99> VSpike: thank you sooooooooooo much
 i do it
[12:08] <le1> its with flash videos
 and not working
[12:08] <Juanolo> tengo un problema con el servidor mysql en ubuntu server, por mas que configuro los privilegios a un usuario para que solo tenga acceso a un par de bases de datos, el sigue conectandose como pedro por su casa con todos los privilegios, alguien puede ayudarme por favor?
[12:08] <ziroday> !es | Juanolo
[12:08] <le1> its not work on flash videos
[12:08] <VSpike> edi_99: you may want to use the restricted driver manager to install the fglrx driver, assuming that you actually do have an ATI card
[12:09] <heogen> and i look the driver in the http://www.s3graphics.com/en/resources/drivers/legacy/software_archive.jsp#id_395drv
[12:09] <snuitje> heogen: system > preferences > screen resolution, you should see the tv there
[12:09] <le1> the sound not work in flash videos
[12:09] <heogen> snuitje> hold on leet me see
[12:09] <ziroday> le1: are you using 8.04 or 8.10?
[12:09] <edi_99> VSpike: did LAMP in any way affected anything on my comp...I mean.. is anything different or is it just as it was before..?
[12:10] <le1> 8.4
[12:10] <heogen> snuitje> no
[12:10] <le1> u mean the ubuntu right ?
[12:10] <le1> 8.04
[12:10] <heogen> snuitje> i can't see the tv there
[12:10] <ziroday> le1: yes, install the libflashsupport package
[12:11] <snuitje> heogen: press detect displays
  system > preferences > screen resolution, you should see the tv
[12:11] <soros> is there anything else that can be animated within the desktop cube besides glgears ?  Fish or something ?
[12:12] <snuitje> soros: oh i'd love that! =)
[12:12] <ziroday> soros: you can have fish, correct
 yeah i did
 and nothing
[12:12] <mgolisch> the driver might not support the tvout
[12:12] <mgolisch> if you want tvout get a intel gma or nvidia or ati absed card, those work for sure
[12:13] <snuitje> should work with s3 as well, but maybe the guys at #xorg know how to do it
 any idea how can I resolve this problem?
[12:14] <C0p3rn1c> ﻿I accedently added another X server to my system while running the nvidia driver installation, how do I remove it ?
[12:14] <mgolisch> look into the manual of the driver
[12:14] <mgolisch> does it support the tv encoder chip at all?
[12:15] <k1ko> hi all :)
[12:16] <C0p3rn1c> pfff also an upgrade to the new kernell messed up my system :(
[12:17] <lyles> see the  picture    http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/i10946
[12:17] <ziroday> lyles: and what is your exact problem?
[12:17] <ne2k__> why can't do-release-upgrade tell me which "unsupported software" is stopping me doing a release upgrade from 6.06 to 8.04? I am happy to remove 3rd party apps while I upgrade but I don't know how to find out which packages are causing the problem, and I don't want to just go deleting stuff willy-nilly, as they say
[12:18] <snuitje> heogen: unfortunately no, i dont even have tv-out myself
[12:18] <ziroday> ne2k__: if you open synaptic and click the Origin button you can see everything that did not come from an ubuntu repo
[12:18] <C0p3rn1c> and I thought I was gonna get some work done today :(
[12:19] <ne2k__> ziroday: thanks. I am not using X, though -- is there a text-mode version?
[12:19] <temporarytao> ne2k__, i think you have to do incremental updates
[12:19] <ne2k__> temporarytao: which is done how?
[12:19] <ziroday> ne2k__: ah. Give me a sec
[12:19] <ziroday> temporarytao: no he does not. LTS to LTS is supported
[12:19] <heogen> snuitje thank you
[12:19] <temporarytao> ah, ok
[12:19] <heogen> for all
[12:19] <lyles> ziroday: there are problems　in chinese show
[12:19] <ne2k__> temporarytao: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading-8.04 this page says I can go directly from 6.06 to 8.04
[12:19] <snuitje> yep
[12:19] <heogen> please anyone know
[12:19] <heogen> pc to tv out how can i do it my video card is S3 prosavage DDR
[12:20] <ne2k__> ziroday: I have remove google-desktop-linux and am trying again
[12:20] <temporarytao> ne2k__, what ziroday said
[12:20] <ziroday> lyles: and those issues are?
[12:20] <ne2k__> ziroday: same problem
[12:21] <snuitje> ne2k: aptitude
[12:21] <snuitje> ne2k: look for local or obsolete packages
[12:21] <ziroday> ne2k__: yes you have packages from externel sources, manual installs etc. I am just trying to find a way to list them all
[12:21] <ziroday> snuitje: does not include packages from externel repos
[12:21] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hi guys
[12:22] <snuitje> ziroday: no, you can disable those repos in sources.list though
[12:22] <C0p3rn1c> ﻿I accedently added another X server to my system while running the nvidia driver installation, how do I remove it ?
[12:22] <ziroday> snuitje: right, but it does not get rid of those packages
[12:22] <C0p3rn1c> or at least how do I stop ALL x servers ?
[12:22] <temporarytao> ne2k__, doesn't synaptic package manager (the gui) automatically detect those packages?
[12:23] <ziroday> ne2k__: no xserver :)
[12:23] <ne2k__> ziroday: I do have X installed so I can spin it up if it will help
[12:23] <snuitje> ps ax|grep X|awk '{ print $1;}'|xargs kill
[12:23] <ziroday> ne2k__: that would be most helpful
[12:24] <ne2k__> ziroday: I just don't normally run it as this is a server and it just uses up RAM
[12:24] <ziroday> ne2k__: you can always close it after
[12:24] <ohletmeinnowgodd> just reinstalled ubuntu, had /home on a different folder and now have ubuntu redirect the system /home to my "other" home(via system>admikn>users and groups) and now when i launch ff, the foxy proxy  plugin says this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/77703/ What should i do?
[12:25] <ohletmeinnowgodd> anyone?
[12:25] <alnayyir> ?
[12:25] <Shubbar> in Hardware Drivers, none are listed. what am i missing?
[12:25] <ikonia> Shubbar: are you using vmware ?
[12:25] <snuitje> ne2k__: i just tried removing a rep in sources.list and the packages from that rep show up as local in aptitude
[12:26] <Shubbar> ikonia, no
[12:26] <lyles> ziroday: ｙｅｓ, 	Concert in chinese  should be http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/i10947  but  now  show as   http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/i10948
[12:26] <snuitje> ne2k__: so yes, filtering out those unofficial packages isn't that hard -_-
[12:26] <ohletmeinnowgodd>  just reinstalled ubuntu, had /home on a different folder and now have ubuntu redirect the system /home to my "other" home(via system>admikn>users and groups) and now when i launch ff, the foxy proxy  plugin says this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/77703/ What should i do?
[12:26] <alnayyir> can anyone help me get a framebuffer terminal working?
[12:26] <ikonia> Shubbar what drives can't you see ?
[12:26] <alnayyir> I don't like the terminals in gnome, and I want my 1280x800 back.
[12:26] <ne2k__> ziroday: synaptic 0.57.8 doesn't have an "origin" button
[12:26] <corden> hello guys
[12:27] <ohletmeinnowgodd> anyone care to help me with my ff issue?
[12:27] <ziroday> lyles: sorry I can't see the difference. The folks in #ubuntu-cn will be able to help you though.
[12:27] <corden> just got problem with my sound after updating my Hardy
[12:27] <corden> the update popup and i updated my system
[12:27] <ne2k__> snuitje: the packages probably weren't installed from a repository at all -- probably just dpkg --install after downloading
[12:27] <ziroday> ne2k__: okay, remove the custom repos and see if they appear in synaptic as local files like snuitje said
[12:27] <Shubbar> ikonia, i have nvidia geforece 6200 , and just installed nvidia-glx-177 and still cannot see any drivers listed
[12:28] <corden> after restarting my sound won't work anymore
[12:28] <lyles> ziroday:thx
[12:28] <snuitje> ne2k__: then they definately should be listed under local packages
[12:28] <ikonia> your opening system -> administration hardware drivers ?
[12:28] <corden> what's seems to be the problem with the update?
[12:28] <ne2k__> snuitje: where is this "local" thing you speak of?
[12:28] <ne2k__> snuitje: I am running synaptic 0.57.8
[12:28] <snuitje> ne2k__: sudo aptitude
[12:28] <Shubbar> ikonia, yes
[12:28] <corden> my sound card is detected but the no sound
[12:28] <ikonia> Shubbar: and the box is emtpy ?
[12:29] <Shubbar> ikonia, yes, empty
[12:29] <snuitje> ne2k__: in synaptic, origin is the 3rd button
[12:29] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hi guys,  I just reinstalled ubuntu, had "/home" on a different partition and now have ubuntu redirect the newly installed OS to look for "/home" at that partition(via system>admikn>users and groups) and now when i launch ff, the foxy proxy  plugin says this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/77703/ What should i do?
[12:29] <ikonia> Shubbar: most odd
[12:29] <corden> how to fix this?
[12:29] <corden> hope to hear from you guys
[12:30] <ohletmeinnowgodd> I use foxyproxy quite abit since my schools internet connection requires all traffic to be routed through their proxy, and i take my laptop everywhere i go
[12:30] <Shubbar> ikonia, could vmware cause that?
[12:30] <ikonia> yes
[12:30] <ne2k__> snuitje: there is no such thing in this version, which comes with 6.06
[12:30] <Split> ohletmeinnowgodd: read the error.. "Ensure the path exists and that Firefox has write access, then restart Firefox."
[12:30] <ohletmeinnowgodd> yes i did
[12:30] <ikonia> Shubbar: but your not running vmware are you ?
[12:31] <snuitje> ne2k__: allright, but aptitude has had a local and obsolete packages list for as long as i can remember
[12:31] <SOURdiesel> how can i find out what is using my swap file for memory?
[12:31] <ohletmeinnowgodd> how doi "ensure the path exists"
[12:31] <Shubbar> ikonia, no
[12:31] <ne2k__> snuitje: in aptitude there are three options, "Not Installed" packages, "Obsolete and locally created packages" and "Virtual Packages"
[12:31] <ohletmeinnowgodd> i see the dir/partition mounted and accessible from the decktop
[12:31] <snuitje> ne2k: see? :)
[12:31] <ikonia> Shubbar: very odd
[12:31] <ne2k__> snuitje: yes, but that second option has EVERYTHING in it
[12:31] <Shubbar> ikonia, only thing with vmware is xserver-xorg-video-vmware
[12:31] <ohletmeinnowgodd> split: what else am i supposed to do to "ensure the path exists"?
[12:32] <snuitje> ne2k: then your sources.list isn't right
[12:32] <ikonia> Shubbar: can you stick the output of "lspci" into a pastein please
[12:32] <snuitje> ne2k: make sure your sources.list has dapper main restricted universe
[12:32] <snuitje> ne2k: and dapper-updates dapper-security
[12:32] <ne2k__> snuitje: I've just had an other idea. I was told to do an apt-get dist-upgrade before attempting a do-release-upgrade, which I did, but apt-get dist-upgrade didn't tell me to reboot, which, now that I'm in X, I'm being told is unnecessary
[12:32] <ohletmeinnowgodd> split?
[12:33] <ohletmeinnowgodd> anyone?
[12:33] <ne2k__> snuitje: sorry, necessary. so I'm just rebooting and seeing if that fixes it
[12:33] <snuitje> ne2k: so you're already halfway through???
[12:34] <ne2k__> snuitje: no. I just did the "getting 6.06 up to date" before I attempted the "upgrading from 6.06 to 8.04"
 [INFO] Searching repository for plugin with prefix: 'gwt'.
 [INFO] Ignoring available plugin update: 1.0 as it requires Maven version 2.0.9
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[12:34] <snuitje> ne2k__: allright, but you kept dapper in sources.list right?
[12:34] <ne2k__> snuitje: but the "getting 6.06 up to date" apparently required a reboot to complete, which I hadn't done
[12:34] <Shubbar> ikonia, http://dpaste.com/94331/
[12:34] <ne2k__> snuitje: I haven't manually edited sources.list ever
[12:34] <rww> Woohoo, I managed to install Ubuntu on a user's computer using only a Fedora live CD, their messed up hard drive, a USB flash drive, an ubuntu iso, duct tape, and a pair of tin cans!
[12:34] <AdvoWork> hi there, ive got a folder Backups thats setup in /etc/fstab to link to //ip/folder$ of another server. running sudo mount -a works, but the Backups folder is red and inaccessible: ?---------  ? ?        ?             ?                ?  backups (thats from a ls -all)  ive tried restarting samba.. no difference, any ideas please
[12:34] <rww> USB installs ftw :)
[12:34] <snuitje> ne2k__: hmm no indeed that shouldn't be neccesary, it'll just get you the latest kernel
[12:35] <BlueEagle> Why am I getting no output when attempting to cat /dev/input/event2 and pressing keys on the keyboard?
[12:35] <ne2k__> snuitje: I did this: apt-get dist-upgrade; apt-get install update-manager-core; do-release-upgrade;
[12:35] <Agion> does anyone know a good python guide (graphic examples)
[12:35] <BlueEagle> Well, I do ofcourse get the keyboard output, but not the codes that I would expect.
[12:35] <ikonia> Shubbar: Hmmmm how new is the 6200 chip ?
[12:35] <snuitje> ne2k__: thats allright
[12:35] <ne2k__> snuitje: so if do-release-upgrade borked my sources.list, then...
[12:36] <snuitje> ne2k__: do-release-upgrade should restore it afterwards
[12:36] <rww> Agion: You might find #python useful. Personally, I've heard good things about http://www.diveintopython.org/ (and plan on reading it someday...)
[12:36] <Shubbar> ikonia, about less than a year old
[12:36] <ikonia> hmmm
[12:36] <ikonia> Shubbar: let me see if I can find some support info on it
[12:37] <ikonia> Shubbar: I'm wondering if it can't detect it because it doens't know about it in the driver
[12:37] <Shubbar> ikonia, they were showing previously
[12:37] <Agion> rww, I couldn't join to #python, it needs some registrations and stuff
[12:37] <ikonia> Shubbar: ahh thats good to know
[12:37] <ikonia> Shubbar: what changed when they stopp ?
[12:37] <ikonia> soppted
[12:38] <sabsam> hallo leute
[12:38] <sabsam> alles klar bei euch
[12:38] <sabsam> ?
[12:38] <snuitje> !de | sabsam
[12:38] <rww> !register | Agion: that's be because they want you to do this (which is generally a good idea anyway)
[12:38] <sabsam> habe eine frage
[12:38] <sabsam> kann mir jemand helfen
[12:38] <sabsam> in sache ubuntu
[12:38] <snuitje> !english | sabsam
[12:38] <PriceChild> !ch | sabsam
[12:38] <rww> !ch | sabsam
[12:38] <sabsam> ich
[12:38] <rww> hehe
[12:38] <Agion> okay, thanks very much, I gott a go to library some day
[12:39] <sabsam> ich habe ein prob
[12:39] <ne2k__> snuitje: aptitude is still showing everything as being obsolete or local
[12:39] <sabsam> ich will einen ubuntu server machen
[12:39] <PriceChild> !de | sabsam
[12:39] <sabsam> aber ich finde keien gute anleitung
[12:39] <ne2k__> sabsam: SHUT UP!
[12:39] <PriceChild> ne2k__: excuse me?
[12:39] <snuitje> ne2k__: does it include base packages?
[12:39] <ne2k__> sabsam: HÖR ENDLICH AUF!
[12:39] <sabsam> hallo
[12:39] <sabsam> warum
[12:39] <sabsam> aufhören
[12:39] <sabsam> sorry
[12:39] <FloodBot2> sabsam: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:39] <sabsam> ist doch ein ubutnu room
[12:39] <sabsam> oder
[12:39] <Shubbar> ikonia, was suing 177.80 bin file then updated to 177.82 and it didnt work so i revmoed it, struggled with a command line only for a few days
[12:39] <BlueEagle> !de | sabsam
[12:40] <sabsam> hallo
[12:40] <sabsam> was ist den los
[12:40] <sabsam> was mache ich den falsch
[12:40] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hi guys,  I just reinstalled ubuntu, had "/home" on a different partition and now have ubuntu redirect the newly installed OS to look for "/home" at that partition(via system>admikn>users and groups) and now when i launch ff, the foxy proxy  plugin says this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/77703/ What should i do?
[12:40] <ikonia> Shubbar: I can see how that may cause a problem, but not why it would make them dissapear in the drivers windows
[12:40] <ne2k__> snuitje: need to disapper for half an hour or an hour. will you still be around then?
[12:41] <ganesh> how to create a database .. i got following error mysql> create database taba;
[12:41] <ganesh> ERROR 1044 (42000): Access denied for user 'ganesh'@'localhost' to database 'taba'
[12:41] <snuitje> ne2k__: hmm cant guarantee but if not, there are others who may be able to help =)
[12:41] <ne2k__> snuitje: I'm here after all
[12:41] <ed__> Hello, where can I find "x-window-system-dev" it's not in apt-get?
[12:41] <Shubbar> ikonia, i also removed xserver-xorg and reinstalled it
[12:41] <ikonia> Shubbar whowwaaa thats  big step
[12:42] <ohletmeinnowgodd> <---HELP?
[12:42] <rww> ganesh: you probably need to be the mysql root user. When installing mysql, you should have been prompted for a password for that account (if my memory is correct). Note that mysql (unless you've done something non-standard) maintains its own account system, which is separate from Linux's.
[12:42] <ne2k__> snuitje: what base packages shoudl I look for in there? and what to do if they are?
[12:42] <snuitje> ne2k__: like linux-util
[12:43] <snuitje> ne2k__: base-passwd
[12:43] <snuitje> ne2k__: never remove those =)
[12:43] <rww> ed__: try xserver-xorg-dev
[12:43] <ganesh>  rww: i gave the same password which i used during installation. still not working.. wat do u suggest?
[12:44] <snuitje> rww: dont you mean xlibs-dev?
[12:44] <BlueEagle> Why am I getting no output when attempting to cat /dev/input/event2 and pressing keys on the keyboard? The expected output is binary output (should be garbled). I am attempting to get ventriloctrl working.
[12:44] <chazco> Hi... i've heard wifi has been fixed in 2.6.27-10. Does anyone know when this will hit the repos?
[12:44] <ne2k__> snuitje: everything, including, base, is showing up as being "Obsolete or locally created"
[12:44] <ed__> rww, thanks I'll try that now
[12:44] <ne2k__> snuitje: let me just paste my source.list for you
[12:44] <snuitje> rww: maybe its libx11-dev
[12:45] <ed__> thats the one thanks
[12:45] <rww> snuitje: ah, okay. thanks for the correction :)
[12:45] <BlueEagle> chazco: It's my experience that Canonical prefers to maintain as few kernel patches as possible. So you will most likely have to roll your own until it goes from patch to vanilla to packaged. It usually takes a while. Sorry.
[12:45] <rww> ganesh: from the look of things, you're trying to log into mysql as user ganesh, not user root.
[12:46] <chazco> BlueEagle - Hmm... i read on a launchpad bug report that someone had it, so was hoping it was a proposed update. Dont fancy compiling my own kernel, heard it can cause more problems than it will solve.
[12:46] <rww> ganesh: I assume you're running mysqladmin when you're getting that error. Try mysqladmin -u root instead.
[12:46] <ne2k__> snuitje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77707/
[12:47] <ganesh> rww ya i ll try..
[12:47] <snuitje> ne2k__: cleanest sources.list i've seen in ages
[12:47] <snuitje> ne2k__: try apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade again
[12:47] <ganesh> rww: thanks man.. it worked :)
[12:48] <rww> snuitje: psh, mine is cleaner :P
[12:48] <rww> ganesh: Glad to hear it. You're welcome :)!
[12:48] <snuitje> rww: you dont use universe?
[12:48] <rww> snuitje: main and universe, not restricted, and i don't compile from source, so no deb-src lines
[12:49] <snuitje> rww: deb-src cant hurt
[12:49] <snuitje> rww: but no restricted debs yep thats almost gNewSense
[12:49] <ne2k__> snuitje: that seems to have fixed it. aptitude looks sensible now (no local packages) and I'm retrying the do-release-upgrade again
[12:50] <ne2k__> snuitje: weird, huh?
[12:50] <rww> snuitje: isn't it an extra thing to grab during apt-get update? And yeah, I considered gNewSense and gobuntu, but decided to go with stock Ubuntu instead :)
[12:50] <snuitje> ne2k__: yeah but i guess apt-get update fixed it for you :)
[12:50] <ne2k__> snuitje: there was something from universe about bzip2 that it downloaded during that. everything else was already up to date
[12:51] <snuitje> rww: it's an extra thing it tries to load yes but it's only a problem on 28k8 i guess -_-"
[12:51] <snuitje> ne2k__: allrighty then
[12:51] <ne2k__> snuitje: it's trying to calculate again. hopefully it will work this time!
[12:51] <snuitje> ne2k__: *crosses fingers*
[12:53] <ne2k__> is there an "approved" (i.e. packaged, gui-front-end-able, rather than crontab) way to install important security updates and automatically reboot if necessary at, say, 3am?
[12:53] <ne2k__> just vital security fixes, not everyday updates
[12:53] <ikonia> ne2k__: crontab is the way
[12:54] <rww> ne2k__: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/184226
[12:54] <snuitje> ne2k__: automatic security updates can be done, it's in update-manager, there arent any automatic reboots unless you use cron
[12:54] <dns53> ne2k__ personally i would avoid automatic upgrades, it can break everythinf too easily
[12:54] <snuitje> dns53: i like automatic security updates, saves me a hassle
[12:55] <serena> how do i get ath_pci to load with startup?
[12:55] <corden> what the posible solution: after updating my hardy, I cannot hear the sound. My sound card is detected and my output device is one.
[12:55] <ne2k__> snuitje: dang, it failed again with the same error, and aptitude was showing the same "everything under obsolete/local" until I ran apt-get update again
[12:56] <corden> on i mean not one :)
[12:56] <snuitje> ne2k__: try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:56] <ne2k__> snuitje: already the latest version
[12:57] <rww> ne2k__: sudo aptitude unmarkauto ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard
[12:57] <ne2k__> rww: what does that do?
[12:58] <rww> ne2k__: marks those three packages as manually installed, so aptitude won't prompt to remove them or any of their dependencies
[12:58] <ne2k__> rww: why would I want to do this?
[12:58] <turicum> spricht jemand deutsch? oder noch besser schweizerdeutsch?
[12:59] <Headbanger> I discovered by chance by installing XChat-Gnome with icon on desktop I get here with click and for my KDE interests I simply type/join #KDE
[12:59] <rww> ne2k__: ... *rereads*, oh, wait, i misread "obsolete/local" as "autoremovable" -_-
[12:59] <snuitje> ne2k__: do-release-upgrade | tee upgrade.log
[12:59] <snuitje> ne2k__: then pastebin the log pls
[12:59] <ne2k__> turicum: probieren Sie mal #ubuntu-de
[12:59] <ne2k__> !de
[12:59] <elijah> Good day  ladies and gentlemen. How do I install drivers for my RADEON 9600? It would be fun to play WOW from Ubuntu. However, 3d accelration required in order for game to run.
[12:59] <turicum> danke
[12:59]  * rww needs to meditate on "It's better to stay quiet and be thought an idiot..."
[13:00] <ne2k__> rww: should I put those back to markauto, then?! ;-)
[13:00] <rww> ne2k__: nah, they /should/ be set as manually installed
[13:00] <nbeebo> anyone know about the add-on to firefox that kills and removes html "windows" and keeps it that way?
[13:00] <ne2k__> rww: on a server?
[13:00] <rww> ne2k__: if you have ubuntu-desktop installed already? yeah
[13:01] <jim_p> !φτπ
[13:01] <jim_p> oops
[13:01] <snuitje> ne2k__: btw removing auto removeable packages wont hurt, sudo apt-get autoremove
[13:01] <jim_p> !ftp
[13:01] <jim_p> !ftpd
[13:01] <ziroday> !msgthebot > jim_p
[13:01] <BlueEagle> Ok, a little more research shows that /dev/input/event2 produces the expected output in a pure text terminal, but in X it does not. Where along the way is that output filtered?
[13:01] <january> Hi everyone.
[13:01] <ne2k__> snuitje: can we just confirm that having set those packages to unmarkauto isn't going to kill anything when I go and do a dist-upgrade or a release-upgrade?
[13:01] <corden> elijah, try envy
[13:01] <jim_p> any tutorial on how to set up an ftp server? bot isnt really helpful
[13:02] <nbeebo> anyone know about the add-on to firefox that kills and removes html "windows" and keeps it that way?
[13:02] <snuitje> ne2k__: probably not, no
[13:02] <neoDite> hello all. is there a command for the terminal to disable compiz (or restore defualts) because when ever i hover over anything on the desktop it goes black and unable to get rid of it or get to the settings to change it.... cheers
[13:02] <january> nbeebo: you mean javascript pop-ups?
[13:02] <ziroday> nbeebo: you mean popups?
[13:02] <elijah> corden: Is not envy about sound stuf?
[13:02] <alecs> hi
[13:02] <ne2k__> snuitje: there is no autoremove in this version of apt
[13:02] <ziroday> neoDite: you can change to default settings in System > Preferences > Appearance > Visual Effects
[13:03] <alecs> how could i downgrade my ubuntu from 8.10 to 8.04 ?
[13:03] <ne2k__> snuitje: apt 0.6.43.3ubuntu3 for linux i386 compiled on Jan 30 2007 10:50:14
[13:03] <ziroday> alecs: you cant.
[13:03] <corden> nop elijah, i used it to install my onboard nvidia video
[13:03] <neoDite> unable to go to the menu as it goes black
[13:03] <nbeebo> january, ziroday, no kill html elements, like the banner in ubuntuforums.com, i think i found it myself tho
[13:03] <corden> now i'm happy with my burning windows
[13:03] <ne2k__> snuitje: should I try the do-release-upgrade again to the log file?
[13:03] <snuitje> ne2k__: you could try deborphan but deborphan is somewhat more rigorous, especially --all
[13:03] <ChrisDavaz> Is there a way to upgrade to a 64-bit version of 8.10 if I'm running the 32-bit?
[13:03] <ziroday> neoDite: open a terminal and type in gnome-appearance-properties
[13:03] <nbeebo> january, ziroday, with point and click
[13:03] <ne2k__> snuitje: what does that do?
[13:03] <ziroday> nbeebo: adblock?
[13:04] <rww> nbeebo: adblock plus, maybe?
[13:04] <Dr_Willis64> ChrisDavaz,  Only way is to reformat.reinstall
[13:04] <corden> elijah, try it and you know what i mean
[13:04] <neoDite> if that opens a dialog i wont beable to do that either
[13:04] <ziroday> rww: jinx
[13:04] <snuitje> ne2k__: deborphan tries to find "orphaned" packages, packages that aren't satisfying any dependencies
[13:04] <jim_p> ChrisDavaz, yes. change the repos AND install a 64 bit capable kernel and dist-upgrade for the rest
[13:04] <Shubbar> alecs, what did you lose with 8.10?
[13:04] <rww> ziroday: adblock is a different addon from adblock plus :P
[13:04] <ne2k__> snuitje: I'm installing deborphan
[13:04] <elijah> Gentlemen, please let me know what of software you have installed in order for WOW to run under, if any. I would not like to buy Cedega
[13:04] <corden> what's in 8.10 that 8.04 don't have?
[13:04] <rww> !wow | elijah
[13:04] <nbeebo> ziroday, rww, nahh way more underground... lol
[13:05] <elijah> what of software = what kind of soft...
[13:05] <Dr_Willis64> elijah,  from what i hear on the wine forums.. normal wine can do it.
[13:05] <snuitje> ne2k__: if you remove packages with apt-get and notice it tries to remove ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard or ubuntu-desktop along with it, say no
[13:05] <majnoon> <<lost kde 3 :(
[13:05] <ziroday> !notes | corden
[13:05] <rww> !wine | elijah: wait, wrong factoid. try this one instead
[13:06] <sabsam> hat jemand einen ubuntu-server
[13:06] <PriceChild> !de | sabsam
[13:07] <corden> is the feature found in 8.10 can be available in 8.04 update?
[13:07] <ziroday> corden: what feature is that?
[13:08] <snuitje> corden: there's a backports repo but it's not supported
[13:08] <corden> anything that's in 8.10
[13:08] <elijah> I have been used wine. The point I can launch WOW under wine, but, however I get black screen because I Do not have Radeon 9600 video drivers installed. So I wonder if there is shell command wich will install it.
[13:08] <jim_p> corden, what is than specific feature?
[13:08] <elijah> point I can = point is ...
[13:08] <SOURdiesel> how can i find out what is using my swap partition for memory?
[13:08] <jim_p> corden, name one of the ones you want
[13:08] <snuitje> elijah: check system > administration > restricted drivers
[13:08] <ziroday> corden: highly unlikely that any features in 8.10 will end up in 8.04
[13:09] <rww> elijah: Ah. Take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[13:09] <snuitje> SOURdiesel: cat /proc/swaps
[13:09] <jim_p> any tutorial on how to set up an ftp server? bot isnt really helpful
[13:10] <corden> i'm not familiar with the 8.10. the reason why asked it, because i preferred the LTS version
[13:10] <PriceChild> jim_p: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ProFTPD?action=show&redirect=ProFTP
[13:10] <ziroday> SOURdiesel: you may be able to do it with (h)top
[13:10] <jim_p> corden, are you on ati by any chance??
[13:10] <SOURdiesel> snuitje: that doesn't tell me what process is using the partition
[13:10] <jim_p> thanks PriceChild
[13:10] <snuitje> jim_p: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[13:10] <corden> if it will be available in 8.04, then no reason i will upgrade to 8.10
[13:10] <jim_p> thanks snuitje
[13:10] <snuitje> SOURdiesel: the kernel is
[13:10] <corden> nop jim_p, i', nvidia
[13:11] <jim_p> corden, ok
[13:11] <snuitje> SOURdiesel: if you want to know what processes are being paged to disk, run top
[13:11] <elijah> How do I enable accelerated  ATI graphics driver in the restricted-manager? I don't have that menu in System -> Administration
[13:11] <SOURdiesel> ziroday:  i tried 'top' it doesn't specify what memory the processes are using
[13:11] <ne2k__> snuitje: how should I use deborphan then? what am I looking fro?
[13:12] <rww> elijah: Do you have System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers?
[13:12] <calwig> hi which program do i have to use to 'make' or compile
[13:12] <calwig> is it gcc?
[13:12] <ziroday> !compile | calwig
[13:12] <rww> calwig: Usually, yeah. You probably want to install build-essential first.
[13:12] <nbeebo> !packages
[13:12] <calwig> rww: ok thx
[13:13] <elijah> rww: I do, thanks. I found it few seconds after I've said I can't to
[13:13] <snuitje> SOURdiesel: hit 'f' then 'p' then enter
[13:13] <snuitje> ne2k__: run deborphan
[13:13] <nbeebo> omg please join one more for 1337
[13:13] <FFighter> hello
[13:13] <snuitje> ne2k__: everything it lists is theoretically removeable
[13:13] <elijah> It seems like my problem is solved. Thank you very much gentlemen, good luck to you, and, overall, have fun with Ubuntu.
[13:13] <FFighter> what is a good size for a partition for /boot ?
[13:13] <FFighter> 64MB ?
[13:13] <snuitje> 256MB or more
[13:14] <snuitje> i wouldn't go below 100MB
[13:14] <nbeebo> i have like 10 mb
[13:14] <january> corden: mostly little things, I guess. I did not find yet any major difference, except that the power management started to give slight trouble. It dimmed the light upon activity, but when I start typing again, it took several minutes before the display was bright again. Had to switch it off. Actually, I do regret having upgraded to 8.10 for now.
[13:14] <FFighter> snuitje, for boot ?
[13:14] <snuitje> yep, saves a headache when you try to upgrade and /boot becomes full
[13:14] <jim_p> FFighter, for how many kernels in that common boot?
[13:15] <FFighter> jim_p, one or two
[13:15] <rww> Is /boot/ necessary for anything other than old BIOS problems these days? For a while, I've just been making / and swap partitions (no /boot/), and everything's been fine =/
[13:15] <corden> as of now, so you preferred the hardy?
[13:15] <ne2k__> snuitje: it lists nothing
[13:15] <ChrisDavaz> Anyone know how to get Lenovo SL500 volume controls working? Apparently the SL500 has Ideapad firmware which doesn't seem to be supported.
[13:15] <snuitje> rww: me too =) grub doesnt always work though, but i havent had any difficulties myself :p
[13:15] <corden> as of now, so you preferred the hardy? january
[13:15] <jim_p> FFighter, i think even 50mb is enough for 2
[13:16] <snuitje> ne2k__: hmm try deborphan --all
[13:16] <january> I have a question about the GUI and GNOME. How can I convince the Terminal app to always launch maximised? I could use the "--geometry" option, but this gives a rigid dimension in pixels -- which changes depending on whether my panels are retracted or not. Maximising terminal, closing and re-opening doesn't work, it always opens in the regular size.
[13:16] <rw3> have anyone runned all of features on thinkpad R500...i mean scroll with trackpoint and else :-).
[13:17] <january> corden: I have upgraded to 8.10 yesterday, so maybe it is too early to say... but yes, I'd prefer Hardy
[13:17] <tarzeau> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives is gone?
[13:17] <jim_p> january, increase its lines and rows maybe?
[13:17] <mod_cure> i installed xen(vm). how can i enable this ?  /boot/grub/somefie ?
[13:17] <corden> ok january tnx for the idea
[13:17] <snuitje> the standard kernel already has xen
[13:17] <ardchoille> tarzeau: opens fine here
[13:17] <ne2k__> snuitje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77717/
[13:18] <corden> i guess i'll stay to hardy for now
[13:18] <Dr_Willis64> january,  i belive the --geometry stuff can take a value of -1, to be  'as big as it can be'  at least some other aps work that way
[13:18] <rww> tarzeau: try https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/NAMEOFLIST/ (replacing NAMEOFLIST with e.g. ubuntu-announce)
[13:18] <tarzeau> ardchoille: no "no such list archives"?
[13:18] <tarzeau> rww: i'm looking for the intrepid and jaunty archives
[13:18] <january> corden: apart from the problem with power management, the upgrade also f+++ up the open office installation and brought it to such a state that I had to remove files manually in order to reinstall it correctly.
[13:18] <tarzeau> rww: but they are gone
[13:18] <ardchoille> tarzeau: I get "lists.ubuntu.com Mailing Lists", a long page of lists
[13:19] <corden> awwww
[13:19] <rw3> tarzeau: thanks a lot :-).
[13:19] <stooj> Does anyone have some kind of Radeon 4850 and are there any issues with it with 8.10 onwards?
[13:19] <snuitje> ne2k__: are you running a domain on the box?
[13:19] <tarzeau> rw3: i used those data files for http://krum.ethz.ch/udc/
[13:19] <tarzeau> but i can't get them anymore :(
[13:19] <rww> tarzeau: intrepid and jaunty mailinglist archives? Do you mean https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Intrepid-changes and https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/jaunty-changes ?
[13:19] <jim_p> stooj, i have an 3850. my advice is "stick to 8.04 until ati fixes fglrx!"
[13:19] <ne2k__> snuitje: meaning? windows domain controller?
[13:19] <january> Dr_Willis64: doesn't work for me :-(
[13:20] <snuitje> ne2k__: as in directory services, email, file server
[13:20] <rww> 'cause you could get to those with http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/intrepid-changes and http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/jaunty-changes
[13:20] <ne2k__> snuitje: I'm running a fileserver with samba
[13:20] <tarzeau> rww: oh wait i didn't see that, yes
[13:20] <ne2k__> snuitje: contemplating putting dns on it, but haven't yet
[13:20] <rw3> tazeau ok i'll try it :-).
[13:20] <tarzeau> rww: yeah download full archive. thanks sorry
[13:20] <_RadioHead> hi all
[13:20] <mod_cure> snuitje, how do i enable the xen kernel ?  u r saying the standard kernel has xen already active ?
[13:20] <tarzeau> rw3=rww?
[13:21] <_RadioHead> am trying to install for 3rd time ubuntu 8.10 amd64 but installer exits
[13:21] <rww> tarzeau: nope, we're different people
[13:21] <snuitje> ne2k__: apt-get remove poster samba-doc tftpd-hpa hfsutils hfsplus vsftpd courier-imap slapd offlineimap phpmyadmin squid php5-ldap
[13:21] <corden> is envy still usable in 8.10? just like in 8.04
[13:21] <rw3> rww sry :-D
[13:21] <_RadioHead> any idea can i install it from ISO file?
[13:21] <ne2k__> snuitje: I want squid, I run a web proxy on there too
[13:21] <snuitje> ne2k__: that should get rid of some cruft but that shouldn't be the problem... dd you pastebin do-release-upgrade?
[13:21] <snuitje> ne2k__: allright leave that on too
[13:22] <ne2k__> snuitje: not yet. it takes a while to run. do you want me to do it first or should I try it after removing those packages?
[13:22] <stooj> jim_p, thanks. I'm speccing a new (budget) build so I'm checking out my hardware compatibility
[13:22] <_RadioHead> ? and i know my  cd is ok i made checksum
[13:22] <rw3> tarzeau i thougt that you did a mistake :-)...
[13:22] <snuitje> ne2k__: removing those will make do-release-upgrade just slightly faster =)
[13:22] <jim_p> stooj, may i ask what else is included?
[13:22] <snuitje> ne2k__: you may as well pastebin that log first so i can have a look
[13:23] <ne2k__> snuitje: ok, will run it now
[13:23] <ne2k__> snuitje: I didn't log it yet
[13:23] <Omar87> Guys, I have a Speedtouch Thomson Gateway modem, how can I configure my wireless connection on it?
[13:23] <mod_cure> snuitje, in RHEL. i had to change the grub conf to enable xen kernel but u r saying ubuntu you dont have to do this ?
[13:23] <tarzeau> rw3: i did
[13:23] <snuitje> ne2k__: sudo do-release-upgrade | tee upgrade.log
[13:23] <Boogieman> How to get server-ubuntu network to work after install
[13:23] <ne2k__> snuitje: I've been doing -m server, is that good? or should I leave it off?
[13:23] <snuitje> mod_cure: indeed
[13:23] <snuitje> ne2k__: leave that off
[13:23] <rw3> tarzeau ic :-).
[13:24] <_RadioHead> anyone can tell me  it is only way to install ubuntu from cd?
[13:24] <_RadioHead> installer exits
[13:24] <snuitje> _RadioHead: theres the live-cd and the alternate installer
[13:24] <_RadioHead> snuitje, i have live cd
[13:24] <stooj> jim_p, sure thing: Intel Dual core 5200, Gigabyte EP31-DS3L Mobo, Corsair XMS2 4GB, Corsair VX-450 PSU, Palit Radeon HD 4850 Sonic GPU, Linksys WMP54G Wireless LAN.
[13:24] <Boogieman> How to get server-ubuntu network to work after install?
[13:25] <ardchoille> !install | _RadioHead
[13:25] <snuitje> _RadioHead: make sure your disc is allright
[13:25] <snuitje> !md5 | _RadioHead
[13:25] <Boogieman> !internet
[13:25] <_RadioHead> snuitje, installer exit , and can i install it from ISO file
[13:25] <snuitje> _RadioHead: you can make a bootable usb stick out of the iso
[13:25] <_RadioHead> brb reading
[13:26] <Dr_Willis64> Boogieman,  you mean to be asking 'how do i configure the networking' on a ubuntu-server install?
[13:26] <jim_p> stooj, go to a p45 mobo for that cpu. gigabyte is fine but a chipset older that p45 may heed a bios update for the cpu. and make sure 450Watts are enough for it
[13:26] <ne2k__> snuitje: I'm logging it with script instead because it was being weird when outputting to tee
[13:26] <cesar_bo> Hello, I customize a livecd with uck, And I Lost the keyboard and mouse, doesn't work on the X just on the console, anyone can help me ?
[13:26] <snuitje> ne2k__: kk
[13:26] <ne2k__> snuitje: it also doesn't like me doing it over ssh. I will go over to the box and run it. bbisas
[13:27] <ka3234> any experienses with ubuntu 8.10 on asus eee 1000H hardware?
[13:27] <snuitje> ne2k__: ? ssh should work fine
[13:27] <sambagirl> i had a program that sat in the tray that allowed you to change your cpu clock speed. i dont recall what it was called now does anyone know what i am referring to?
[13:27] <corden> can i run ubuntu mobile in wine?
[13:27] <snuitje> !wine | corden
[13:27] <rww> ka3234: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC ; it might have useful information :)
[13:28] <corden> i mean virtual box... sorry
[13:28] <january> corden: you mean like, ubuntu mobile within wine within ubuntu?
[13:28] <rww> ka3234: I haven't installed ubuntu on the 1000H, only the 701, unfortunately
[13:28] <ianm_> any tips / urls for installing debug symbols for libgobject, libgtk etc. for app profiling with sysprof?
[13:28] <january> corden: vbox? sure, why not?
[13:28] <ne2k__> snuitje: it says it's a bad idea because it's harder to recover from problems. it does offer the option but I thought I'd just keep it simple
[13:28] <corden> yah january. correction vbox i mean :)
[13:28] <january> corden: vbox is just like the real thing
[13:29] <Dr_Willis64> i run ubuntu in vbox all the time
[13:29] <snuitje> ne2k__: hmm well since you have the entire ubuntu-desktop on it, i dont think the server mode is going to suit your case
[13:29] <\slash> http://pastebin.com/m3eb3d9f8
[13:29] <\slash> whats the prob?
[13:29] <\slash> why ami missing packages
[13:29] <corden> i want to play ubuntu mobile. if possible i love to install it on vbox
[13:30] <ka3234> tnx for ee info
[13:30] <rww> \slash: you're trying to install a RedHat Linux package on Ubuntu. Try sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree instead
[13:30] <ne2k__> snuitje: I remember now, it was originally installed from a DVD on a magazine, and it installed ubuntu-desktop. I've been using it as a server, though
[13:30] <snuitje> \slash: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[13:30] <Dr_Willis64> i have no idea what ubuntu-mobile even is,
[13:30] <paulo> #ubuntu-es
[13:30] <racquad> hi guys! is there a way to uninstall openoffice package without uninstalling ubuntu-desktop?
[13:30] <\slash> thank u
[13:30] <snuitje> ne2k__: lol you _could_ remove the entire set of desktop packages first, that'll save time (and maybe some pain) on the upgrade
[13:31] <rww> racquad: ubuntu-desktop can be safely removed if you don't need all of its components. It won't break your system or anything.
[13:31] <rww> !ubuntu-desktop | racquad
[13:31] <corden> Dr_Willis64, that's why i want to install it
[13:31] <ne2k__> snuitje: my boss asked me to leave the gui stuff on there because he wanted to be able to have a go at "learning linux"
[13:31] <snuitje> rww: yes but in this case everything ubuntu-desktop depends on can also be removed
[13:31] <sliverchair> any desktop wikipedia application or google for Ubuntu?
[13:31] <rww> snuitje: not the way Ubuntu's usually set up, it won't
[13:31] <snuitje> ne2k__: he can learn linux with a live cd, not by messing around on the company server lol :D
[13:32] <ne2k__> Silicium: there's google-desktop-linux which gives you google desktop search. otherwise just use a browser
[13:32] <marcelo> why would I need a partition for the /boot dir ?
[13:32] <mod_cure> snuitje, when starting up virt-manger. I get error about verify the xen host kernel was booted
[13:32] <marcelo> because it needs to be the first bytes right ?
[13:32] <ne2k__> snuitje: sounds like what I was thinking! ;-)
[13:32] <viktorkAZ> hi
[13:32] <viktorkAZ> i just install compiz
[13:32] <viktorkAZ> but i cant see it anywhere:S
[13:33] <\slash> Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player.
[13:33] <nbeebo> because its the one thats boots all, if ubuntu fux up u can still access windows
[13:33] <\slash> i got that msg still
[13:33] <FFighter> hello
[13:33] <ne2k__> snuitje: btw, is a snuitje is a little snuit, and if so, what is a snuit when it's at home?
[13:33] <FFighter> Why would I need a partition for /boot ?
[13:33] <nbeebo> because its the one thats boots all, if ubuntu fux up u can still access windows
[13:33] <snuitje> ne2k__: ?
[13:33] <\slash> ahh
[13:33] <\slash> nm
[13:33] <FFighter> hmm
[13:33] <FFighter> nbeebo, thanks
[13:33] <nbeebo> its like a teeny weeeny os that boots other os's lol
[13:34] <SOURdiesel> viktorkAZ: you need to also install compiz-fusion icon
[13:34] <Dr_Willis64> FFighter,  i havent needed a /boot parthin in ages
[13:34] <ne2k__> snuitje: isn't "-je" or "-tje" the dutch affix that works like "-ito" in spanish or "-chen" in german? diminution.
[13:34] <snuitje> ne2k__: yep
[13:34] <fosco_> viktorkAZ: execute compiz --replace at any terminal
[13:34] <FFighter> Dr_Willis64, thanks... but whare are the benefits of having one ?
We heard you like grub, so we put an OS in your OS so you can boot while you boot.</meme>
[13:34] <ne2k__> snuitje: so what does your nick mean? ;-)
[13:34] <snuitje> ne2k__: snuit means snout, as in the nose of an animal
[13:34] <ne2k__> snuitje: I knew it!
[13:34] <fosco_> FFighter: actually none
[13:34] <nbeebo> it means he thinks hes better than us :/
[13:34] <snuitje> ne2k__: also a common pet name
[13:35] <ne2k__> snuitje: ok, thing has failed again, let me paste the script
[13:35] <Dr_Willis64> FFighter,  not much these days.. keeps ya kernel safe.. on some old hardware  a /boot at the start of the hd was needed.. bugt not so much these days
[13:35] <FFighter> Dr_Willis64, nice, thanks
[13:36] <Dr_Willis64> FFighter,  i keep a spare 'install' of PuppyLinux in my /boot partition  so i can boot it if needed as a rescue os.
[13:36] <FFighter> Dr_Willis64, oh nice, great use of it
[13:36] <snuitje> ne2k__: ok, we could attempt removing the entire desktop from it, i usually start by doing something nasty like apt-get remove libx11-6
[13:36] <SOURdiesel> i have seen alot of screenshots of desktops online where the user has their system monitor on the desktop.  almost looks like it would be an applet of sorts.  does anyone know what i'm talking about? and what exactly is it?
[13:37] <viktorkAZ> SOURdiesel: ok i am installing the icon now
[13:37] <nbeebo> sourdiesel: CONKY!!
[13:37] <BlueEagle> After even more research stopping dbus and hal and the starting kdm gave output from /dev/input/event2, however I lost norwegian keyboard in the process. No biggie since I can set it with setxkb
[13:37] <ne2k__> snuitje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77732/
[13:37] <viktorkAZ> SOURdiesel: i let you know what happen ok. btw, is emerald a window manager?
[13:37] <tobiassjosten> My connection is acting up.. After anything from an hour to a few days, I become unable to use HTTP. All requests times out. I can ping the hos and have it lookup the IP just fine and it answers to the ping. Everything seems to work fine - except HTTP. Does anyone have any idea what could cause this?
[13:37] <ardchoille> SOURdiesel: I use gkrellm for that, it's in the repos: apt-cache search gkrellm
[13:37] <ne2k__> snuitje: should I not just apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop?
[13:38] <SOURdiesel> viktorkAZ: once it installs go to apps > system tools > compiz
[13:38] <snuitje> ne2k__: that'll just remove the meta package
[13:38] <heyder> hi
[13:38] <sliverchair> ne2k__: thanks, I did try that when I was still using windows but didn't wanna make it more slower. But now i'll give linux a try
[13:38] <SOURdiesel> nbeebo, ardchoille: thanks.
[13:38] <heyder> what best option virtualization?
[13:39] <ne2k__> snuitje: before I do that, I'm going to remove those extra "dross" packages you mentioned before. I'm sure some of them are third-party
[13:39] <FFighter> Dr_Willis64, what would be a nice size for a boot partition? I've installed Ubuntu on a 500GB HD and put only 60MB for /boot, I'm worried kernel updates could fill it eventually and running gparted to reshrink it would take too long
 how did u know it was a redhat linux version file?
[13:39] <russ> My sound has been working perfectly for a least a month. I just installed an update that required a reboot now I have no sound at all
[13:39] <heyder> what best option virtualization, xen, kvm or vmware?
[13:39] <FFighter> resize*
[13:39] <AppleRocks> how can i get graphic card on ubuntu?
[13:39] <rww> \slash: it's a .rpm file. RPM stands for RedHat Package Manager ;-)
[13:40] <\slash> w00t
[13:40] <\slash> lol
[13:40] <fosco_> FFighter: my /boot is 26mb, so 60mb will be ok in most cases
[13:40] <\slash> i thought that was a linux thing
[13:40] <\slash> rofl rofl
[13:40] <russ> is there a way  to roll back an update?
[13:40] <rww> \slash: the Ubuntu equivalent is .deb files
[13:40] <ianm_> is there any way to figure out why an ubuntu pc reset itself ?
[13:40] <ravenx> hi
[13:40] <nbeebo> !1337
[13:40] <WhiteDwarf> heyder: like always... there is no "best". Personally i like XEN but if u'r looking for "easy" go with vmware.
[13:40] <fosco_> FFighter: but you don't need a boot partition at all
[13:40] <\slash> rww how do u install .deb files
[13:40] <viktorkAZ> SOURdiesel: ok, now compiz fusion icon is on my panel
[13:40] <corden> finally found a guide how to run ubuntu mobile on my desktop :)
[13:40] <ravenx> my openssh is stuck at debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP
[13:40] <ravenx> Read from socket failed: Operation timed out
[13:40] <rww> \slash: one of the more annoying things about Linux is that there are several different, incompatible, package managers >.>
[13:40] <rww> !deb | \slash
[13:40] <hudsonfire> irc://irc.explosionirc.net/wanted
[13:41] <ravenx> somebody can help me please?
[13:41] <JAR897> Hi, im looking for terminal help?
[13:41] <\slash> aight
[13:41] <\slash> thanks for the info
[13:41] <rww> !ask | JAR897
[13:41] <remoteCTR2> with what command can i upgrade to intrepid via console?
[13:41] <FFighter> thanks
[13:41] <SOURdiesel> viktorkAZ: right click, settings manager
[13:41] <snuitje> ne2k__: a couple more... try removing these as well courier-authdaemon courier-base courier-doc courier-imap festlex-cmu festlex-poslex festvox-kallpc16k gcj-4.1-base gij-4.1 gnome-cups-manager
[13:41] <viktorkAZ> SOURdiesel: how can i try if its working? how can i do the 3d cube stuff
[13:41] <ne2k__> snuitje: what's gcj and gij?!
[13:41] <snuitje> ne2k__: gok gtkhtml3.8
[13:41] <SOURdiesel> viktorkAZ: ask in #compiz-fusion
[13:42] <snuitje> ne2k__: gnu java compilers
[13:42] <JAR897> How can I check buffer length for a string using GDB via terminal?
[13:42] <ne2k__> snuitje: gosh
[13:42] <gam3r111> do any of you know of a free cardmaking software??
[13:42] <ianm_> any sysprof users here?
[13:42] <rww> remoteCTR2: If you're upgrading from 8.04, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades#Network%20Upgrade%20for%20Ubuntu%20Servers%20(Recommended)
[13:42] <heyder> what best option virtualization, xen, kvm or vmware?
[13:42] <hudsonfire> irc://irc.explosionirc.net/nip
[13:42] <snuitje> ne2k__: postgresql-8.1 postgresql-client-8.1
[13:42] <SOURdiesel> ardchoille: is this http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_type=1&screen_id=159367689646d3c899bcc84&m=screen gkrellm?
[13:42] <dark_Angel_> geia...
[13:42] <rww> remoteCTR2: If you're upgrading from another version, say which version it is :)
[13:42] <russ> Can I get a little help getting my sound to work again. It was working perfectly before this update I just installed
[13:42] <gam3r111> ????
[13:42] <gregd> hi guys, is it possible to use kernel 2.6.28 in intrepid?
[13:43] <gam3r111> ???
[13:43] <gam3r111> ?
[13:43] <snuitje> ne2k__: postgresql is at 8.3 now
[13:43] <gam3r111> ?
[13:43] <FloodBot2> gam3r111: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:43] <Dr_Willis64> heyder,  i imagine it depends on your exaact needs.. thers also virtualbox
[13:43] <mon^rch> heyder: try virtualbox
[13:43] <ne2k__> snuitje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77737/
[13:43] <nbeebo> virtualbox is the best!
[13:43] <smt> hi all, i'm facing a problem.. im runing ubuntu 8.10 and somehow i misclicked somthing an since then most of my tray icons are undocked and i cant get them back to the panel where they belong.. i googled but only found some information about similar problems in kde but nothing in gnome
[13:43] <remoteCTR2> ﻿with what command can i upgrade from hardy to intrepid via console?
[13:43] <dark_Angel_> kaneis ellinas;;
[13:43] <WhiteDwarf> Stupid question: how do i change the timezone (e.g. from CET to UTC) on the command line. Is it ok to just change /etc/timezone? Any side-effects I should consider?
[13:44] <remoteCTR2> unop: hey dud are you there?:)
[13:44] <rww> remoteCTR2: again, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades#Network%20Upgrade%20for%20Ubuntu%20Servers%20(Recommended)
[13:44] <snuitje> ne2k__: add libjline-java then
[13:44] <remoteCTR2> rww: ah there you are back:) thanks
[13:44] <unop> remoteCTR2, aye
[13:44] <ardchoille> SOURdiesel: the dark blue (purple?) one in the middle is gkrellm
[13:45] <snuitje> ne2k__: but really, the suggestion to file a bug report doesnt seem like a bad idea here
[13:45] <snuitje> ne2k__: since you're only using ubuntu packages and you'
[13:45] <ne2k__> snuitje: well I think some of that stuff is third party
[13:45] <ardchoille> SOURdiesel: the one on the left side looks like a set of docklets being used in a dock on the fluxbox window manager
[13:45] <snuitje> ne2k__: re trying a supported upgrade path
[13:45] <SOURdiesel> ardchoille: the right side is conky i think
[13:46] <ne2k__> snuitje: no, I'm sure some of the stuff I have is not ubuntu packages, I just don't know which ones they are. all i wanted to know in the first place was how to find out which packages weren't ubuntu ones so I could remove them and get on with the upgrade
[13:46] <snuitje> ne2k__: hm, then it can only be a case of universe packages breaking the upgrade
[13:46] <viktorkAZ> hi anyone know how to rotate the cube with compiz? i just want to try it its working
[13:46] <ardchoille> SOURdiesel: oh, ok
[13:46] <ne2k__> snuitje: I'm sure some of them are random debs I have downloaded
[13:46] <ardchoille> SOURdiesel: no, I really think the one on the right side is a series of docklets
[13:46] <snuitje> ne2k__: well you can see in synaptic which ones are universe because they dont have the ubuntu logo on them
[13:46] <SOURdiesel> ardchoille: hmm
[13:46] <ne2k__> snuitje: I think I will get rid of all X-related stuff for the upgrade, though
[13:47] <ardchoille> SOURdiesel:  I recognize some of those from when I used them on WindowMaker
[13:47] <snuitje> ne2k__: hmm but those should show up as local or obsolete in aptitude
[13:47] <SOURdiesel> ardchoille: i'm on the right path now.  thanks.
[13:47] <ne2k__> snuitje: so would you recommend apt-get remove libx11-6?
[13:47] <smt> viktorkAZ, get ccsm and define it by yourself
[13:47] <ardchoille> SOURdiesel: open a terminal and type: apt-cache search -n wmcpu
[13:47] <ne2k__> snuitje: whoa, 322 packages to remove, 729MB will be freed
[13:47] <snuitje> ne2k__: i'd check it to see nothing serious is removed, but for a server you normally wont need it
[13:47] <snuitje> ne2k__: hehe yeah
[13:48] <SOURdiesel> ardchoille: what does that do?
[13:48] <ne2k__> snuitje: well I can always put it back on once I'm upgraded if necessary. the only CRITICAL thing on this is samba
[13:48] <snuitje> ne2k__: make sure you're not running x while you do that
[13:48] <hudsonfire_> irc://mascalzonelatino.explosionirc.net/wanted
[13:48] <ardchoille> SOURdiesel: that shows you some info about the wmcpu app
[13:48] <ne2k__> snuitje: lol
[13:48] <ne2k__> snuitje: ok ;-)
[13:48] <snuitje> ne2k__: run deborphan afterwards see if theres any cruft left behind
[13:48] <hudsonfire_> irc://irc.darksin.eu/all-music
[13:49] <Pici> hudsonfire_: Don't do that here.
[13:49] <SOURdiesel> ardchoille: could be
[13:49] <ne2k__> snuitje: I guess I could do apt-get autoclean afterwards too to free some space?
[13:49] <ardchoille> SOURdiesel: check out the docklets along the lower right side in this screenshot: http://windowmaker.info/imageview.php?cat=big&id=44
[13:49] <snuitje> ne2k__: autoclean removed cached downloaded packages
[13:49] <snuitje> ne2k__: so no
[13:50] <ne2k__> snuitje: I get this occasionally during the remove: I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/var/lib/scrollkeeper/(null)/scrollkeeper_cl.xml"
[13:50] <snuitje> ne2k__: autoremove would but since dapper didn't seem to have that...
[13:50] <snuitje> ne2k__: ah the scrollkeeper bug that's known iirc
[13:50] <ne2k__> snuitje: I thought "clean" removed all packages that you've downloaded, and "autoclean" only removes ones that can no longer be downloaded?
[13:50] <snuitje> ne2k__: no, the opposite, autoclean removes everything BUT packages that cant be downloaded again
[13:50] <SOURdiesel> ardchoille:  that looks like gkrellm, correct?
[13:51] <ardchoille> SOURdiesel: that's WindowMaker with 5 dockapps running, the second to the last one is wmcpu
[13:51] <SOURdiesel> ardchoille: ok.  that's not what i'm looking for.
[13:51] <ne2k__> snuitje: autoclean: Like clean, autoclean clears out the local repository of retrieved package files. The difference is that it only removes package files that can no longer be downloaded, and are largely useless.
[13:51] <SOURdiesel> heh
[13:51] <Dr_Willis64> i like windowmaker :)
[13:51] <snuitje> ne2k__: allright
[13:51] <ardchoille> SOURdiesel: here are some gkrellm skins, shows how it looks: http://www.muhri.net/gkrellm/nav.php3?node=gkrellmall&sort=added&conf=DESC
[13:52] <snuitje> i've used wmaker for years
[13:52] <Dr_Willis64> there usered tobe some ways to use those dock apps in a panel under gnome and kde..
[13:52] <ne2k__> snuitje: thank you for all your help on this, btw, I appreciate it
[13:52] <snuitje> ne2k__: yw
[13:52] <ne2k__> snuitje: I normally consider myself a bit of a dude when it comes to linux, but this stuff is a bit outside my normal experience!
[13:52] <SOURdiesel> ardchoille:  ok.  i think i'm looking for conky.
[13:53] <hudsonfire_> irc://irc.explosionirc.net/nip
[13:53] <ardchoille> SOURdiesel: ok, conky is in the repos
[13:53] <sinbox> anyone knows how I can install liblame0-dev?
[13:53] <viktorkAZ> smg: ok i just got the ccsm
[13:53] <viktorkAZ> smg: now that
[13:53] <ardchoille> hudsonfire_: please don't do that
[13:53] <snuitje> ne2k__: i've never had an ubuntu upgrade fail completely
[13:54] <SOURdiesel> ardchoille:  cool.  i'll look there.
[13:54] <ne2k__> snuitje: I don't think it's that broken. I think it was some third party app. the problem is that it was DIFFICULT to work out what it was
[13:54] <SOURdiesel> ardchoille: thanks.
[13:54] <ardchoille> yw
[13:54] <hudsonfire_> irc://irc.darksin.eu/all-music
[13:54] <mon^rch> viktorkAZ: open ccsm and check desktop cube
[13:55] <ne2k__> snuitje: anyway, I'm still removing X-related stuff, so we'll see once that's done
[13:55] <snuitje> ne2k__: we can find out =)
[13:55] <ardchoille> hudsonfire_: Please take that to another channel, this is a support channel.
[13:55] <ne2k__> hudsonfire_: you've been asked once already
[13:55] <snuitje> ne2k__: allright im gonna take a brake you can still reach me right?
[13:55] <mon^rch> viktorkAZ: then click rotate cube
[13:55] <snuitje> ne2k__: *break
[13:55] <haffouff> hello
[13:55] <xiroV> Where is the programs placed in ubuntu? someone told me a while ago, but i forgot
[13:55] <ne2k__> snuitje: thanks. hopefully this will work!
[13:56] <haffouff> please i need help to configure my postfix server
[13:56] <ne2k__> xiroV: you mean the actual executable files?
[13:56] <xiroV> ne2k__, prolly.. im editting Sessions Preferences.. thats why
[13:56] <ne2k__> xiroV: generally in /bin, /usr/bin, /sbin or /usr/sbin
[13:56] <ne2k__> xiroV: eh?!
[13:57] <xiroV> ne2k__, Okay.. thanks :)
[13:57] <mon^rch> viktorkAZ: then use your middle mouse button to rotate the cube
[13:57] <viktorkAZ> mon^rch: i cant see the option of rotate cube where is that
[13:57] <snuitje> xiroV: run "which program" to find out where it's located
[13:57] <viktorkAZ> i see it now
[13:57] <viktorkAZ> sorry
[13:58] <viktorkAZ> thx
[13:58] <mon^rch> viktorkAZ: look again, it's there in the Desktop section
[13:58] <xiroV> snuitje, uhm?? how?
[13:58] <_M4rk_> Hi all. Is it possible to do a hard restart for ubuntu via ssh?
[13:58] <snuitje> xiroV: open gnome terminal, it's under applications > utilities
[13:59] <xiroV> snuitje, ye?
[13:59] <bob1> How do i tell what wireless driver i am currently using ?
[13:59] <bartmon> Hi! I have problems with DVD playback. I've added the Medibuntu repo and installed various libdvd* but totem still complains that the source is encrypted. How did YOU enable DVD playback?
[13:59] <snuitje> !terminal | xiroV
[13:59] <ardchoille> bartmon: install libdvdcss2
[14:00] <mon^rch> bartmon: vlc plays dvd's quite nicely
[14:00] <xiroV> snuitje, i know the terminal :) i just didn't understand what you were talking about.. a command?
[14:00] <snuitje> totem can play dvds as well
[14:00] <DaHopi> ubuntuforums.org down? :(
[14:00] <mon^rch> shrugs
[14:00] <snuitje> xiroV: which <program>
[14:00] <russ> Is there a way to roll back an update?
[14:00] <ardchoille> DaHopi: loads fine here
[14:00] <rww> DaHopi: works for me
[14:00] <snuitje> xiroV: that'll search the <program> on your $PATH
[14:00] <fevel1> hi all
[14:00] <xiroV> snuitje, okay.. thanks a lot
[14:01] <LjL> russ: no
[14:01] <bob1> How do i tell what wireless driver i am currently using ?
[14:01] <DarkKnight> !channels
[14:01] <ensonic> oprofile is broken on 8.10, anyone cares? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oprofile/+bug/272209
[14:01] <LjL> russ: there is a way to install a specific version of a single package, but it's not even really guaranteed to work
[14:02] <_M4rk_> Hi all. Is it possible to do a hard restart for ubuntu via ssh?
[14:02] <fevel1> hs anyone heard of a web tool that I can generate iptables script?
[14:02] <ne2k__> snuitje: lots of removing happening here
[14:02] <bartmon> ardchoille: I've REinstalled it and it's the same
[14:02] <bartmon> mon^rch: VLC displays encrypted garbage
[14:02] <russ> LjL: my sound has stopped working after an update it was working perfectly
[14:02] <ardchoille> bartmon: With totem?
[14:02] <viktorkAZ> oh man this is frustrating, since i dont have middle click or right click in mac, i dont know how to rotate the cube is there any other way??
[14:02] <snuitje> ne2k__: i won't be around all day, you can reach me if you need to right?
[14:03] <ne2k__> snuitje: yes, thanks
[14:03] <erUSUL> viktorkAZ: buy a real mouse
[14:03] <snuitje> ne2k__: allright
[14:03] <rww> bartmon: I just did sudo apt-get install libdvdread3 then sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh =/
[14:03] <bartmon> ardchoille: Yes, with totem. The copyright notice is actually displayed but after that all I see is garbage.
[14:03] <russ> viktorkaz: howld down control + alt + left mouse
[14:03] <ardchoille> bartmon: Ok, I've never used totem so I can't help with that :(
[14:03] <russ> and slide your mouse
[14:03] <bartmon> ardchoille: Well it's the same in all 3 players i have - mplayer, totem and vlc
[14:04] <russ> Can someone help me troubleshoot my audio
[14:04] <FearMoth> Hi, I've got a server with a 160GB hard drive, 4GB RAM. What partitions should I make, and what sizes should they be?
[14:04] <ardchoille> bartmon: I use mplayer and I installed libdvdcss2, libdvdread and libdvdnav and dvd movies play fine here
[14:04] <deathpool> what are u trying to do
[14:04] <deathpool> ?
[14:04] <bob1> Is there a gui display for all the devices in your system and the drivers they are using ?
[14:04] <ne2k__> FearMoth: generally, something like 100MB for boot, 2 x physical RAM for swap, and the rest for /. unless you have a reason to subdivide /
[14:05] <mon^rch> FearMoth: make a 256mb /boot and leave the rest for / (unless you want a /home partition
[14:05] <ne2k__> bob1: it doesn't really work like that. your best bet is probably to look at the output of dmesg
[14:05] <tommy> Hallo
[14:05] <bob1> ne2k__: is there a way to tell which driver my wireless is using ?
[14:06] <deathpool> what ur trying to do fearmoth ?
[14:06] <ne2k__> bob1: look for the interface designation (wlan0, eth1, or whatever) in the output of dmesg
[14:06] <FearMoth> ne2k__: I was mostly concerned about /var .. should I make a partition for /var in case it fills up?
[14:06] <bob1> ne2k__:  so like dmesg | grep wlan0
[14:06] <bartmon> rww: I tried this again just now and there's some improvement! Now i get half garbage and half video. But i get a lot of CRC errors and full buffer errors in mplayers debug output
[14:06] <bartmon> I should make a video of this
[14:07] <ne2k__> bob1: yep
[14:07] <bob1> tyvm
[14:07] <rww> bartmon: mplayer confused the heck out of me, so I ended up using VLC. Even then, it only worked well if I told it not to use DVD menus and to cache about 3s in advance.
[14:07] <deathpool> sorry bud i cant help u there im kinda new to linux too :(
[14:07] <tommy> Schreibt jemant auch deutsch ??
[14:07] <rww> bartmon: from my experience, DVD playback in Linux is kidna... problematic
[14:07] <rww> !de | tommy
[14:07] <edvard> Quick question.. I am running Ubuntu 8.10 on my Acer 5930 laptop. I am having some problems with Ubuntu freezing randomly from time to time. Ive booted up with pci=noacpi now, and it seems to be working. Are there any disadvantages of using noacpi? (dont know what it is.. hehe)
[14:08] <viktorkAZ> is there any other way to rotate the cube? or how can i try other compiz effect? i just want be sure if its working or not
[14:08] <tommy> danke
[14:08] <erUSUL> viktorkAZ: cril + alt + →
[14:08] <edvard> viktorAZ ctrl+alt + left mouse click
[14:09] <ne2k__> _M4rk_: by hard restart, do you mean reboot the box completely? you want sudo shutdown -r now
[14:09] <viktorkAZ> not working
[14:09] <viktorkAZ> any other effect? i can try
[14:09] <rww> edvard: ACPI is one of the systems used for power management. Disabling it might stop you from using stuff like suspend/hibernate/turn-monitor-off-automatically, etc. Or, it might not... shouldn't be any serious side-effects, though.
[14:10] <mon^rch> viktorkAZ: do you have the right video drivers installed?
[14:10] <rww> i never could get that damn cube to work
[14:10] <edvard> ok, so hibernation and such might not work then?
[14:10] <mod_cure> when i install xen on RHEL, were good to go. when i enable it on ubuntu, now i cant get on the internet.  my ubunut interface http://pastebin.com/m71d064c8
[14:10] <jeward> My sound stop working right, though it's fine when I boot into Windows, any ideas?
[14:10] <rww> edvard: correct, but note the "might". Depending on what other power management stuff your computer supports, it might work anyway =/
[14:11] <Greggaz> is Xubuntu good for Slow Machines ??
[14:11] <edvard> by not working, do you mean that the system just wont go into hibernation, or will it crash while trying to do so?
[14:11] <risman> low
[14:11] <risman> low
[14:11] <rww> edvard: It'll refuse to go into hibernation. Shouldn't crash.
[14:11] <edvard> ok, il just try it then :)
[14:11] <jeward> Greggaz: Better, depends on how slow.
[14:11] <darkvertex> Hi, where can I get traffic shaping utilities that can be combined with iptables? Any pointers would be very much appreciated
[14:12] <Greggaz> Well i have 256 Memory
[14:12] <edvard> but why does noacpi solve so many system freeze problems with Ubuntu on laptops+
[14:12] <edvard> ?*
[14:12] <jeward> Greggaz: Try the LiveCD?
[14:12] <Greggaz> ok
[14:12] <jeward> Greggaz: I have a recipe for really weak machines.
[14:13] <Greggaz> what is it Jeward:
[14:13] <nbeebo> i dont wanna sleep yet what can i do? sorry for this off topic lol
[14:13] <ne2k__> snuitje: it's working! thanks again for all your help
[14:13] <rww> edvard: Many computers have buggy ACPI implementations. Turning off acpi stops those implementations from being called. Many BIOS makers don't bother fixing those bugs, because they only test their code for Windows.
[14:13] <jeward> Greggaz: I install Fluxbuntu (7.10) and upgrade.
[14:13] <edvard> ah, I see..
[14:13] <Greggaz> ok
[14:13] <edvard> thanks for the info :)
[14:13] <edvard> will try to hibernate and such :P
[14:13] <Boulevardie> Does anyone know what might be causing the fact that pretty often when I listen to music or watch a movie the sound sort of gets stuck repeating, for example, some small part of a song
[14:14] <nbeebo> sure it isnt hardware????
[14:14] <Boulevardie> or do anything sound related really
[14:14] <[c0re]> can anyone tell me where is the trash folder located?
[14:14] <rww> !trash | [c0re]
[14:15] <Boulevardie> nbeebo: was that meant for me?
[14:15] <nuevisimoenlinux> ive been having some crashes on hardy, im using compiz and that happen after screensaver was runing
[14:15] <rww> [c0re]: if you're trying to find it using the file manager, you might need to press Ctrl-H to show hidden files/folders (press Ctrl-H again to turn it back off)
[14:15] <erUSUL> !trash | [c0re]
[14:15] <Greggaz> how do i install the New OS On linux ??
[14:15] <nbeebo> boulevardie, yeah, im not so good at linux but that sounds like a hardware problem kinda... i think
[14:16] <Boulevardie> nbeebo: yeah, but the weird thing is that I haven't changed any of my hardware and everything has worked fine for months, it's just now started
[14:16] <jeward> Greggaz: There'll be an Install icon on the desktop.
[14:16] <[c0re]> THANKS I GOT IT
[14:17] <nbeebo> boulevardie, yeah ... thats what happens with hardware... u should try some other.. maybe from mp3, just to see
[14:17] <deathpool> hey any body know where i can down load blender books from
[14:18] <magnetron> deathpool→ http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D
[14:18] <rww> What's the difference between sysklogd and klogd?
[14:18] <Boulevardie> nbeebo: it happens with mp3 too, if that's what you meant...
[14:18] <deathpool> like for example Sybex Introducing Character Animation with Blender Feb 2007
[14:19] <nbeebo> boulevardie, i meant mp3 speakers..
[14:19] <runa__> can sb help me find the hidden stream url on the web.
[14:19] <Boulevardie> nbeebo: using external speakers?
[14:19] <nbeebo> boulevardie yep
[14:20] <runa__> i mean if i have a web page with a music stream how can i find its url?
[14:20] <Silicium> hi
[14:20] <deathpool> thank u :)
[14:20] <snowhite> Hejsan hur laddar man nya skrivbords bakgrunder samt inloggningsfönstren till INtrepid Ibex?
[14:20] <Boulevardie> nbeebo: k, I'll do that, thanks
[14:20] <nbeebo> boulevardie no problem... noob helps noob s lol
[14:20] <Pici> !se | snowhite
[14:20] <snowhite> dem följer inte med ?
[14:20] <Boulevardie> nbeebo: ya, that's the way it goes
[14:21] <darkvertex> Can anyone tell me in which package I can find tc for traffic shaping? Or should I use shaper instead?
[14:21] <snowhite> jag skulle oxå behöva veta vad man kallar den delen av inloggningsfönster där man ser ubuntulogot och att man laddas in ...kan man byta det till detta nya ?
[14:22] <snuitje> ne2k__: kewl! did you remove orphaned packages?
[14:22] <nbeebo> bootscreen?
[14:22] <rww> !se | snowhite
[14:22] <snuitje> ne2k__: you probably have a lot of cruft laying around if you didnt
[14:22] <snuitje> ne2k__: useless stuff like ubuntu-wallpapers and gnome-games-data
[14:22] <snowhite> alltså efter grub startar inloggandet med svart skärm och en orange rad ovan på et ubuntu logot?
[14:23] <fosco_> snowhite: please use english to communicate
[14:23] <snuitje> ne2k__: after the upgrade you could try apt-get autoremove
[14:23] <nbeebo> snowhiteja bootscreen, men gå till ubuntu-se eller engelska
[14:23] <deathpool> does any here know to get vuze up and runnning on ubuntu 8.04
[14:23] <deathpool> ?
[14:23] <LjL> nbeebo, snowhite, dom har en finast kanal där i #ubuntu-se, ni skulle pröva den
[14:23] <sinbox> anyone knows how I can install liblame0-dev?
[14:23] <snowhite> okey I need to know how I could download a new Ubuntu window ?It isnt wallpaper
[14:24] <nbeebo> snowhite means boot screen and login screen i think
[14:24] <snowhite> I mean a black ground with a orange ubuntulogo on it and a strpie of ogrange
[14:24] <fosco_> sinbox: sudo apt-get install libmp3lame-dev
[14:24] <rww> deathpool: The version of Vuze packaged with hardy is called azureus, and is version 2.5.0.4
[14:25] <snuitje> snowhite: thats the usplash theme
[14:25] <ardchoille> !theme
[14:25] <snuitje> !usplash | snowhite
[14:25] <deathpool> ok thanks i did not know that
[14:26] <erUSUL> darkvertex: iproute
[14:26] <erUSUL> !info iproute | darkvertex
[14:26] <snowhite> okey is it thatone witch is black an ubuntu text on it and it belongs to intrepid when you log in to your computer after the grub
[14:27] <darkvertex> erUSUL: iproute does traffic shaping? i'll look into it. thanks
[14:27] <erUSUL> darkvertex: no; iproute includes /sbin/tc
[14:27] <snowhite> Tackar/thanks see u have a nice day!!
[14:28] <nbeebo> NO PROBLEM
[14:28] <darkvertex> erUSUL: that's great. thanks
[14:30] <Guest57806> my mixer seems to jump around in volume as I try to adjust my volume, any idea why this is
[14:30] <Omar87> How do I configure the wireless connection for a Thomson Gateway modem?
[14:30] <nbeebo> how come something only uses like 1-10 kb down when it should be able to do 600?
[14:30] <nbeebo> internet
[14:32] <nbeebo> for every second im not getting help ill lose 600 kb :/ lol
[14:32] <sinbox> fosco_, : could not find package libmp3lame-dev      guess I'm missing a repository, but which one?
[14:32] <tomaz> cant install librdf-dev, package is broken.
[14:32] <heogen> please anyone know
[14:32] <heogen> pc to tv out my video card is S3 Prosavage DDR
[14:32] <rww> sinbox: multiverse
[14:33] <rww> sinbox: assuming you're using intrepid, that is
[14:33] <nbeebo> tomaz, i think it means u have it and its broken, so try removing it then install again.. atleast i would do that
[14:33] <tomaz> I don't have it,
[14:33] <nbeebo> whats new and GOOD about intrepid?
[14:33] <tomaz> the  dedpendencies are not met.
[14:34] <rww> !intrepid | nbeebo
[14:34] <nbeebo> boring but ok
[14:35] <rww> nbeebo: wait, nvm, that Features link lies and has nothing about new features. hmm...
[14:35] <nbeebo> rww saw that yeah..
[14:35] <leetsweden> sgfd
[14:35] <leetsweden> tjaah
[14:35] <exodus_ms> heogen, are you having problems with your card installing?
[14:35] <Omar87> How do I configure the wireless connection for a Thomson Gateway modem?
[14:35] <leetsweden> fgfd
[14:35] <erythrocyte> I'm looking for a GUI for the GNU CLI utility 'shred' ..any pointers would be greatly appreciated :)
[14:35] <bazhang> !se | leetsweden
[14:36] <T3rmy> hi guys, I need some help,
[14:36] <T3rmy> openssl req $@ -new -x509 -days 365 -nodes - out /etc/apache2/apache.pem -keyout /etc/apache2/apache.pem
[14:36] <T3rmy> the $@ what is it for?
[14:36] <nbeebo> t3rmy think its frequency
[14:36] <lodder> I have problem with xen dom0 in 8.04. Ihad to do a reset in order to get back a ssh connection; the vif1 reset it self I think
[14:37] <T3rmy> nbeebo,  frequency of what?
[14:37] <heogen> <exodus_ms no
[14:37] <nbeebo> t3rmy oh shiii sorry trought it was screen problem....
[14:37] <rraj_be> any GTK users available for helping me . . . . .i am just started to learn GTK
[14:37] <nbeebo> *thought
[14:37] <mon^rch> anyone know how to access usb devices in virtualbox?
[14:37] <nbeebo> !gtk
 my card is integrate in my laptop
[14:38] <nbeebo> !gtk2
[14:38] <nbeebo> !GNOME
[14:38] <nbeebo> !vlc
 but normally when i used xp windows i can do it
[14:38] <exodus_ms> heogen, but it is working under ubuntu?
 but with ubuntu 8.04 i can't do it
[14:38] <rraj_be> any GTK programmer gere. .. . :
[14:39] <rww> I have a disk image I made with dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/path/to/image.img. How do I mount it from the GUI (I know how to do it from console ;-) )
[14:39] <rraj_be> *here
 yeah i'm working under ubuntu 8.04
[14:39] <exodus_ms> heogen, try this, it might help http://paste.ubuntu.com/77752/
[14:39] <sinbox> rww I'm using Hardy but it should be the same for what I'm after, and multiverse is enabled
[14:39] <nbeebo> rraj_be i think theres channels with gtk programming only and websites with guides......
[14:39] <rraj_be> rww . . .could you explain me the above command used for making disk image
 ok
[14:39] <rww> sinbox: that package doesn't exist in hardy
[14:39] <rraj_be> i have used it once to make swap manually
[14:39] <sinbox> oh ok rww any idea what the equivalent package would be in Hardy?
[14:40] <rraj_be> could you give me a link to those channels please nbeebo
[14:40] <rraj_be> rww . . .could you explain me the above command used for making disk image
[14:40] <sinbox> all I've found while searching so far is the fact that liblame0-dev does not seem to install
[14:40] <sken> hello
[14:40] <ravn> hey folks, anyone familiar with sendmail here. I have Ubuntu 8.10 and want to use sendmail and an MTA with Evolution. But sendmail doesn't seem to function properly. First it takes some 2 minutes to start during boot and then I can send mails with Evolution. The mail is lying in the outbox for some time and the disappears...
[14:40] <nbeebo> rraj_be i have no clue but im a master of google so ill search for a few sec brb hehe lol
[14:40] <rww> rraj_be: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)
[14:40] <rraj_be> k
[14:40] <sken> does anybody know the system requirements for virtualbo in ubuntu
[14:40] <sken> ?
[14:41] <rraj_be> rww :)
[14:41] <rww> sinbox: no idea what the hardy equiv. is, but I'll go search packages.ubuntu.com and see :)
[14:41] <nbeebo> rraj_be http://www.gtk.org/development.html that too
[14:41] <rraj_be> k
[14:41] <albert> ghfhgh
[14:41] <mon^rch> sken: just make sure you have lots of ram
[14:41] <samosa> what is Compiz Fusion?
[14:41] <sinbox> well rww I did install the liblame-dev package but still no sign of liblame0-dev anywhere
[14:41] <rraj_be> i have another great tutorial
[14:42] <rraj_be> but i cant get every thing from that
[14:42] <kriel> Okay, so. I've got 8.04 and an ipw3945 using the iwl3945 driver. It connects to my home access point just fine, as well as the one at my parent's house. However, for some reason, it won't connect to the access points at school. They use MAC filtering and open authentication, but even when I spoof a known-good MAC, it's no good. Am I asking in the right place? If so, where should I start troubleshooting it?
[14:42] <rraj_be> so i need man to man help nbeebo  ..  .i have amny doubts abt syntaxes nbeebo
[14:42] <sken> is 512 of ram enough mon^rch?
[14:42] <sara-j> s
[14:42] <sara-j> s
[14:42] <mon^rch> sken: a descent cpu would prolly help too
[14:42] <nbeebo> rraj_be then u should go to http://www.gtk.org/development.html and look for the irc channel to join mkay? lol
[14:42] <MrCollins> I am getting poor performance from flash in firefox, I read some posts and it points to compiz. What is compiz?
[14:43] <samosa> kriel: wrong plcace
[14:43] <samosa> place*
[14:43] <rww> sinbox: I think liblame-dev is the dev package for liblame0 =/
[14:43] <exodus_ms> !compiz
[14:43] <kriel> samosa: Where's the right place, then?
[14:43] <sken> prolly?
[14:43] <rraj_be> ok nbeebo
[14:43] <mon^rch> sken: 512 ram is kinda pushing it, but it should run :)
[14:43] <tomaz> o.o
[14:43] <tomaz> !aiglx
[14:43] <tomaz> what to use, xgl or aiglx?
[14:43] <MrCollins> !xgl
[14:43] <rww> sinbox: looks that way from comparing http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/liblame0/filelist and http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/liblame-dev/filelist , anyway
[14:44] <sken> does anybody know any simialr program to cryptload?
[14:44] <MrCollins> tomaz I have a radeon 9200
[14:44] <mon^rch> sken: you cpu should be AT LEAST 1ghz
[14:44] <sinbox> that's me snafued then rww :/            do you think if I build lame from source it might install liblame0-dev in the process?
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/77755/
[14:44] <sken> yeah mon^rch it's 1.64ghz
[14:44] <tomaz> MrCollins: I don't have a videocard. you won
[14:45] <samosa> kreil
 i copied the code and in this page is the information
[14:45] <samosa> kriel: http://docs.lucidinteractive.ca/index.php/Cracking_WEP_and_WPA_Wireless_Networks
[14:45] <sken> does anybody know any simialr program to cryptload?
[14:45] <rww> sinbox: let's back up a little... what do you need liblame0-dev for?
[14:45] <mon^rch> sken then you should be able to run vbox, just dont expect it to run really fast (I use vbox with an amdx2 with 3gb ram)
[14:45] <kriel> samosa: It has OPEN authentication. It's not an encryption issue.
 are you there my friend?
[14:46] <j-Li> kao
[14:46] <sken> ok mon^rch
[14:46] <exodus_ms> heogen, yeah taking a look at what you pasted. Did you try what I sent?
[14:46] <mon^rch> nods
[14:46] <samosa> kriel: http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php
[14:46] <MrCollins> tomaz I wasnt trying to best you
[14:46] <samosa> i know
[14:46] <sken> does anybody know any similar program to cryptload?
[14:46] <j-Li> en..
[14:46] <samosa> but they would know...
[14:46] <MrCollins> tomaz i thought you were trying to help me... sorry
[14:47] <rww> !repeat | sken
[14:47] <rraj_be> nbeebo:  i got it . . .its #gtk+
[14:47] <nbeebo> rraj_be i saw that too.. sorry for not telling u.. forgot it :S lol
 i wrote $ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:47] <samosa> kriel: i found the channel this should be the right place # IRC: #aircrack-ng on Freenode
 and this information the terminal of ubuntu showed me
[14:48] <exodus_ms> heogen, ...ok... what is the problem you are experiencing?
[14:49] <sinbox> ok rww, I'm installing MuSE (as in muse-streamer) and it needs liblame0-dev when I install it to "see" the lame encoder otherwise I only get the ogg-vorbis encoder; the readme says I need libmp3lmae and the lame. header properly installed
 my problem is that I can't to see any movie in my tv. from my pc
[14:49] <samosa> exodus_ms: i have no clue what that wikipedia description means
 I don't know how can to switch or transfer the image
 for example in windows xp it is very easy form me
 but in ubuntu I can do it yet
[14:51] <sorush20> !openoffice.org
[14:51] <erythrocyte>  I'm looking for a GUI for the GNU CLI utility 'shred' ..any pointers would be greatly appreciated
[14:51] <sorush20> version 3.0 of openoffice.org is not in the repositories
[14:51] <sorush20> anyone help?
[14:51] <ikonia> sorush20 wait for a package is my advice
 i going to system  > preferences > scream resolution
 and nothing
[14:52] <exodus_ms> heogen, what are you using to connect your pc to your tv
 I watch movies
[14:52] <rww> sinbox: did you try installing the liblame-dev package? that has the lame header in it, so it /should/ accept that...
 I download movies in my pc and I want to see it in my tv
[14:53] <exodus_ms> heogen, what kind of physical connection?
[14:53] <tomaz> it's me, but 'blame-dev' it's hilarious. ;D
[14:53] <rockenrola1> hey, my fan does not recover from hibernation. any ideias?
 wire connection
[14:53] <exodus_ms> heogen, what kind.... s-video...
[14:54] <tomaz> libfam-dev is broken too.
 I have a cable to put to my laptop and the tv out and in
[14:54] <sinbox> I did install it rww, but still no luck for some reason, I'm starting to think it might be easier to actually force the station's listener to get a media player that works with ogg/vorbis
[14:54] <sorush20> I moved to pclinuxos for this reason (slow package updates in ubuntu), and now back in ubuntu because on certain package was not available in pclinuxos. Amazing. So many packages.
 normally with the same cable i did to Win xp
[14:54] <sinbox> at least if I threaten them with a hammer they are likely to comply unlike the computer I'm working on
[14:54] <sorush20> I'm probably going to emulate windows or virtualbox an distro that has OOo 3
 but now i feel very nice with ubuntu
[14:54] <exodus_ms> heogen, yes, I understand that. Do you know what kind of cable you are using for the connection from your laptop to you tv?
[14:54] <sorush20> not going to wait
[14:55] <rww> sinbox: huh, that's odd, it should work... yeah, I agree with your idea :). Which OS are they using?
[14:55] <sinbox> they are using all the "wrong" ones mostly rww ;-)  mostly windows and osX
 yeah
[14:56] <rww> sinbox: for windows, foobar2k can do Ogg. For Windows and OS X, VLC should work.
 is it a s-video pc out to tv in
[14:56] <platius> sorush20; http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[14:57] <exodus_ms> heogen, ok, good.
[14:57] <sorush20> who edits the bot in there
[14:57] <sorush20> thank platius?
[14:57] <ikonia> sorush20 whats up /
[14:57] <sinbox> I know this rww, but I'm sure you know how hard it is to get some people to understand simple concepts like: itunes is [censored expletive], as an aside I really wish there was something even close to foober for linux
[14:57] <platius> sorush20; this worked for me
[14:58] <sorush20> can you add that link to the !openoffice.org?
[14:58] <sorush20> ikonia:
[14:58] <rww> sinbox: haha, yeah, I do :). And yes, I wish there was too. I ended up just using Rhythmbox, mainly because it's the default :(
[14:58] <Broken|Arrow> blunix:
 I wrote "displayconfig-gtk
[14:58] <ikonia> sorush20: what link ?
[14:58] <blunix> Broken|Arrow, hello
[14:58] <heogen> "displayconfig-gtk and I can to configure well
[14:58] <sorush20> ikonia: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[14:59] <heogen> "displayconfig-gtk to pass the image to my tv.
[14:59] <exodus_ms> heogen, you need to enable s-video in you xorg.conf
[14:59] <ikonia> sorush20: thats not supported
[14:59] <russ> I need a little help. I updated ubuntu this morning and now my sound is not working
[14:59] <ikonia> sorush20: thats why it's not in the link
 no i'm not sure
[15:00] <exodus_ms> heogen, ption "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO" -- in xorg.conf
[15:00] <exodus_ms> heogen, option "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO" -- in xorg.conf
[15:00] <russ> How do you remove previous commands from the command prompt?
[15:00] <sebbs> why is pulseaudio crapping out my soundcard
[15:00] <ardchoille> russ: you can clear your history with: history -c
[15:00] <rww> russ: "clear" to remove them from the current screen, "rm ~/.bash_history" to remove the log of them
 how can i do that
[15:01] <sebbs> why do i even have pulseaudio installed
[15:01] <russ> thanks :)
[15:01] <ardchoille> rww: history -c  clear ~/.bash_history too
 i write it in the terminal? option "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO" -- in xorg.conf
[15:01] <hwohabe> hi, what do I type in the terminal to show a list of my harddisks and their UIDs ?
[15:02] <rww> ardchoille: yeah, I didn't know that command ;-)
[15:02] <bazhang> !blkid
[15:02] <sorush20> ikonia: how about something that is supported?
[15:02] <exodus_ms> heogen, xorg.conf is a file that handles your x11 display. You will need to change or add the entry
[15:02] <BlueEagle> And finally I got it solved. It appears that the hardware abstraction layer steals the output from /dev/input/eventX. Adding Option "AutoAddDevices" "false" to the ServerLayout of xorg.conf works around it.
[15:03] <hwohabe> what do I type in the terminal to show a list of my harddisks and their UIDs ?
[15:03] <rww> hwohabe: sudo blkid
[15:03] <magnetron> hwohabe→ "sudo blkid"
[15:03] <bazhang> hwohabe, !blkid
[15:03] <hwohabe> thank you
[15:03] <hwohabe> bye
[15:03] <heogen>  <exodus_ms> ok
[15:03] <heogen> hold on
[15:04] <exodus_ms> heogen, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf back up the orginal
[15:04] <bazhang> !gksudo | exodus_ms heogen
[15:04] <ardchoille> !gksudo | exodus_ms
[15:05] <afancy> Hi, in Ubuntu, when I use the command: top,  what does it mean "52.6%wa" ?
[15:05] <exodus_ms> sorry... pasted too fast!
 ok now I have the list of xorg.conf open
[15:05] <afancy> Hi, in Ubuntu, when I use the command: top,  what does it mean "52.6%wa" ?
[15:06] <jatt> hi, I've just installed the latest updates (for hardy), and after rebooting my sound card is not recognized anymore:
[15:06] <jatt> warning: 'alsactl store' failed with error message 'alsactl: save_state:1251: No soundcards found...
[15:06] <jatt> are there any known issues with the latest update, I know the kernel was updated
[15:06] <russ> jatt: the exact same thing is going on with me
[15:06] <afancy> Hi, in Ubuntu, when I use the command: top,  what does it mean "52.6%wa" ?
[15:07] <jatt> russ: thanks. Damn I'm not the only one, so probable there was something wrong with that update.
[15:07] <russ> jatt: I'm using ubuntu though
[15:07] <jatt> me too. dmesg says:
[15:07] <jatt> [   72.186660] snd_hda_codec: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_elem_read
[15:07] <sorush20> where do I get a list of approved and good repositories
[15:07] <russ> jatt: but this is the same prob. I'm having. sound was working perffectly now I have no sound
[15:07] <afancy> Hi, in Ubuntu, when I use the command: top,  what does it mean "52.6%wa" ?
[15:07] <jatt> [   72.186113] snd_hda_codec: no version for "snd_ctl_add" found: kernel tainted.
[15:07] <Pici> !repeat | afancy
[15:08] <angeleyes_> hi
 hey brother
[15:08] <jatt> I will check if this appears in the logs from yesterday
[15:08] <Pici> afancy: As the manpage says, this is iowait time between now and the last refresh.
[15:08] <jatt> [   72.189285] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_hda_codec_remove_notify_all
[15:09] <rww> !repositories | sorush20
[15:09] <jatt> hm. looks as an issue with the intel cards...
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/77760/
[15:10] <jatt> hmm
[15:10] <russ> jatt: I have a creative card
[15:11] <skyper> Hello guys..does anyone know a progra to try to see again the files that once where on your pendriver o external driver?
[15:11] <rww> !undelete | skyper
[15:11] <exodus_ms> heogen, It looks like you need to install the drivers for your card. Take a look here and see if it helps http://www.backports.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843764&highlight=S3+ProSavage+DDR
[15:11] <RaMaDan> #Ci
 thank you
[15:12] <jatt> no idea what the problem could be...
 i'll see how can to install the driver
[15:13] <jatt> i didn't want to make the upgrade because I suspected my wireless could get broken
[15:13] <jatt> wireless work, but sound don't
[15:13] <exodus_ms> heogen, unlike windoze sometimes in ubuntu you will need to install restricted drivers because of proprietary reasons
[15:14] <alexmax_> Hi there.  I just installed Wireshark from ubuntu repositories, but I'm not getting a list of interfaces to capture from for some reason.
[15:14] <skyper> rww: is there a grafical way to do such thing as recovery losten files?
[15:14] <bazhang> skyper, what file system
 i'm new using ubuntu, how can i do that
[15:15] <rww> alexmax_: if I remember correctly from the last time I played with Wireshark, you need to run it with root privileges to get that list
[15:15] <alexmax_> Apparently this is the case
 i'm reading to much, but yet i'm new using os ubuntu
[15:15] <alexmax_> Is there a way to give myself priviliges to do this so I dont have to sudo into root?
[15:15] <skyper> bazhang:fat32
[15:15] <alexmax_> It makes the wireshark entry in the ubuntu main menu kind of useless no?
 is the possible that you say me your email
[15:16] <bazhang> skyper, you made backups?
[15:16] <rww> alexmax_: not sure, I figured out that gksudo wireshark (iirc that was the command I used) worked and stopped investigating...
[15:16] <sorush20> can we add a proxy option to the repositories howto page?
[15:16] <Shubbar> ikonia, sloved the Hardware Drivers not listed problem, was because i installed and removed envyng, needed to install it again and remove it frm the command line with --unistall-all
 i'll to study how can apply the information that you send me in the web page
[15:16] <ikonia> Shubbar envyng shouldn't effect that menu though
[15:16] <ikonia> Shubbar: but well done
[15:16] <systest> anyone know of a working 64bit java-plugin for firefox ?
 and I would like to let you know about it
[15:17] <skyper> bazhang: actually its a SD card for my camera. i instaled the bootloader of Ubuntu on it, and then deleted some photos that were on the sd card.
[15:17] <radoen> hello
[15:17] <radoen> please someone help me, i've a laptop asus and a geforce 8200 i've to set lcd bright
[15:17] <radoen> currently it's too low
[15:18] <exodus_ms> heogen, https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/add-applications/C/#restricted-software
[15:18] <radoen> exodus_ms, can you help me
[15:18] <bazhang> skyper, you might try testdisk; not sure if it works with sd cards though (what you want is photorec)
[15:18] <exodus_ms> heogen, also take a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/hardware/C/restricted-manager.html
[15:19] <angeleyes> i want to install ENCARTA 2008 ON USING WINE BUT AFTER INSTALLING IT CAN NOT LANUCH
[15:19] <Kornie> Anyone had any luck with figuring out whats causing screen tearing while watching movies, I've tired enabling vsync in both nvidia config and in compiz, video's played in virtual box xp while slow don't show the same tearing, I've tried everythign I've found on the ubuntu help pages, just curious if anyon'es found any other solutions
[15:19] <angeleyes> CAN SOME ONE HELP
[15:19] <amikrop> Hello. I have Automatic Login enabled for my user. When I try to SVN Update with RapidSVN, to a repository that needs my RSA key, I am asked for my password. What Can I do to skip that everytime?
[15:19] <bazhang> caps angeleyes
[15:20] <bazhang> angeleyes, check the appdb
[15:20] <bazhang> !appdb
 thank you let me see it
[15:20] <Doonz2> hey guys
[15:20] <Doonz2> anyone have some time to help me with some wierd volume labels?
[15:21] <angeleyes> can any one help my install encarter on my linux
[15:21] <amikrop> I have installed libmap-keyring and put the @include line in /etc/pam.d/gdm but I have realised I don't have a ~/.gnome2/keyrings/default.keyring but only a ~/.gnome2/keyrings/login.keyring
[15:21] <amikrop> Any help, please?
[15:22] <bazhang> angeleyes, I answered you
[15:22] <benoka> kmobiletools 0.4.3.3 installed, gnome phone manager recognizing mobile (N6300) via bluetooth but the 2 seem not to communicate (cannot find bluetooth phone in /dev)
[15:22] <angeleyes> wat is appdb
[15:22] <Pici> !appdb | angeleyes
[15:22] <bazhang> http://appdb.winehq.org angeleyes
[15:22] <bazhang> oops
[15:22] <theshadow> I'm trying to figure out why my wireless card keeps getting the IP address 192.168.2.2 (which is incorrect) but the ethernet is getting 192.168.1.x
[15:23] <Kornie> Any input on screen tearing with movies?
[15:23] <n8tuser> theshadow-> there is a lease file, erase that
[15:23] <theshadow> n8tuser: where is that?
[15:23] <angeleyes> i did use the wine but is could not start
[15:23] <erUSUL> theshadow: aybe your router/accesspoint uses different subnets for wifi and wired ?
[15:23] <n8tuser> theshadow  use locate to locate it
[15:23] <bazhang> angeleyes, you need to check that link to see if it will run; it may or may not
[15:23] <theshadow> erUSUL: no I checked it
[15:24] <theshadow> n8tuser: whats it called?
[15:24] <erUSUL> angeleyes: on the appdb there are tips and tricks to make programs work
[15:24] <n8tuser> theshadow-> there is a lease file
[15:24] <Doonz2> is there a command that will show me all volume labels on my system?
[15:24] <n8tuser> theshadow-> /var/lib/dhcp3/ look here
 thank you for your help, i'm still working
[15:25] <angeleyes> tell me pls wat are this tips and tricks
 to resolve this situation
[15:25] <erUSUL> angeleyes: search encarta in the appdb...
[15:25] <DarkKnight> hey my openoffice is crashing
[15:26] <erUSUL> angeleyes: we've told you multipletimes already http://appdb.winehq.org
[15:26] <bazhang> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=13242 angeleyes 2009 will not run
[15:28] <angeleyes> it is 2008
[15:28] <theshadow> n8tuser: tyvm
[15:28] <n8tuser> theshadow-> odk
[15:29] <bazhang> angeleyes, 2007 will not run; 2009 will not run; no entry for 2008
[15:30] <angeleyes> why
[15:30] <DarkKnight> hey my openoffice is crashing
[15:30] <DarkKnight> any solution
[15:31] <pigphish> remove it completely
[15:31] <pigphish> and add it again
[15:31] <pigphish> or upgrade
 are you follow there?
[15:31] <soulc> How come cron doesn't run shell scripts
[15:32] <angeleyes> i try office 2007 onec and did not work also
[15:32] <juniecho> hi, is it like, when i update the kernel, i need to reinstall my tablet driver? i did that 'sudo make install' thing.
[15:32] <bazhang> angeleyes, some programs simply dont work
[15:32] <soulc> that thing I sent you?
[15:32] <berylog> hi, can anyone paste the original xorg.conf file in ubuntu intrepid?
[15:33] <n8tuser> berylog-> you can get that from a livecd ?
[15:33] <bazhang> angeleyes, you can dual boot or use virtualbox and put windows and encarta in that
[15:33] <angeleyes> but is is linux and it is do just anything
[15:33] <Kornie> ....
[15:34] <berylog> n8tuser: ok! I tried searching on internet but I didn't try the livecd :-P
[15:34] <bazhang> angeleyes, yes; and I have outlined how you can do that
[15:34] <rmitchell> berylog: you can rebuild your xorg.conf with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:34] <Kornie> I'm sorry but angeleyes what are you talking about ;/
[15:34] <berylog> rmitchell: I tried that but compiz fusion broke
[15:34] <berylog> the problem was I connected my laptop to TV and compiz fusion crash
[15:35] <angeleyes> u have not may be i lost it
[15:35] <bazhang> angeleyes, lost what
[15:35] <DarkKnight> hey my openoffice is crashing...any solution
[15:35] <berylog> so when I wanted to use my laptop I had to remove compiz fusion because xorg.conf wasn't right
[15:35] <bazhang> DarkKnight, without any more info NO
[15:35] <erUSUL> berylog: a blank file probably
[15:35] <juniecho> hi, could someone tell me how to avoid reinstalling drivers that i manually compiled, when i'm supposed to update the kernel?
[15:35] <berylog> erUSUL: xorg.conf has a default content
[15:35] <anabolix> i just removed my garbage bin on my desktop, where do i find it to put it back?
[15:36] <berylog> erUSUL: because I executed that command (reconfigure etc)
[15:36] <ne2k__> anabolix: did you put it in the garbage?
[15:36] <berylog> erUSUL: but that isn't the default ubuntu intrepid xorg.conf file
[15:36] <DarkKnight> bazhang; i just copy some textual info from a web page and paste in into the doc and when i save it or before i save it, it crashes...i have a file which needs 2 be attached 2 show u....how do i attach it
[15:37] <n8tuser> juniecho-> i dont think  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ gets overwritten during update  of kernel..but save this just for keepsake
[15:37] <anabolix> no i had it next to my toolbar not exactly on the desktop, and i accidently removed it and i can find it
[15:37] <bazhang> DarkKnight, then use a different text editor
[15:37] <anabolix> *cant
[15:37] <angeleyes> the thing u say u out line
[15:37] <bazhang> angeleyes, virtualbox?
[15:37] <superkiwi> Hello, vlc crashed and now no other program can use the sound. How do I fix this?
[15:37] <DarkKnight> bazhang; i can't use a text editor as i have tables created in it
[15:37] <n8tuser> !trash | anabolix
[15:38] <erUSUL> berylog: there is no default xorg.conf... that file does not come in any pacakge with a default content it is generated at install time by 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' and in recent version of ubuntu given that recent xorg version autoconfigure themselves at runtime xorg.conf is blank
[15:38] <angeleyes> wine
[15:38] <l0newolf> why I can't configure more than 2 desktops?  if I up the amount to 3, 4, whatever and click apply it still says 2 on the pager and doesn't change
[15:38] <anabolix> n8tuser, thanks
[15:38] <juniecho> n8tuser// sorry, i'm a newbie so i don't understand what you're saying. basically i'm a little afraid of manually compiling the driver, so i want to install the tablet driver permanently... is it possible?
[15:38] <CaBa> hi. does anyone have an idea why apache mod_cband disappeard in hardy?
[15:39] <n8tuser> juniecho-> you are a newbie and doing a major compiling and kernels? umm then do lots more of tutorials so you canlearn a bit more
[15:39] <berylog> erUSUL: ah ok! so maybe I only have to enable hardware acceleration to run compiz fusion again
[15:39] <pigphish> superkiwi: try setting your soud to auto
[15:40] <n8tuser> !kernel | juniecho
[15:40] <juniecho> n8tuser//no, i'm just using the update manager, but there is a kernel update. i'm about to apply these updates, but the last time i updated the kernel, the tablet stopped working so i had to recompile the driver. i'm kinda afraid of this, so i want to have the driver 'follow' the new kernel. is it possible?
[15:41] <rmitchell> superkiwi: go to system | administration | system monitor and check the "processes" list for vlc
[15:41] <loa> why updater tries to update firefox which didn't installed?
[15:41] <n8tuser> juniecho-> i dont think  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ gets overwritten during update  of kernel..but save this just for keepsake -- means save that directory
[15:41] <maxbaldwin> What's the way to unpack a   file.gz.bz2   ?
[15:42] <maxbaldwin> just gunzip file.gz.bz2?
[15:42] <fosco_> maxbaldwin: tar xvfj file
[15:42] <maxbaldwin> thanks fosco_
[15:42] <unop> maxb, you need a two part extraction - one through bunzip, another through gunzip
[15:42] <juniecho> n8tuser// i can't find the folder...? i'm at /lib/modules/2.6.24-21-generic
[15:43] <chazco> Hi... 2.6.27-10 is intrepid-proposed, and supposedly fixes some bugs. Does anyone know how long it'll take to enter the update repos?
[15:43] <juniecho> where is `uname-r`?
[15:43] <unop> maxbaldwin, sorry, see above
[15:43] <n8tuser> juniecho-> that is the whole directory
[15:43] <fosco_> maxbaldwin: .gz.bz2 is not a common extension, try bunzip file.bz2 ; gunzip file.gz
[15:43] <maxbaldwin> unop: bunzip file.tar.bz2   then   gunzip file.gz
[15:43] <unop> maxbaldwin, that should do it
[15:43] <l0newolf> why I can't configure more than 2 desktops?  if I up the amount to 3, 4, whatever and click apply it still says 2 on the pager and doesn't change
[15:43] <n8tuser> juniecho-> if you type  uname -r  on your terminal it should match the   2.6.24-21-generic
[15:43] <maxbaldwin> ok, thanks unop and fosco_
[15:44] <PriceChild> l0newolf: you probably want to configure viewports/workspaces, not desktops.
[15:44] <Segaja> is there a newer package version for libpcre ?
[15:44] <juniecho> n8tuser// oh thanks.. but i know the table works in my old kernel already, how do i make it work with new kernel? is there any way that i can make it work with new kernel without recompiling the driver manually?
[15:44] <fosco_> Segaja: newer than what
[15:45] <sorush20> openoffice.org 3.0 not present
[15:45] <sorush20> what the hell to do
[15:45] <Segaja> fosco_: i need libpcre3 >= 7.7
[15:45] <maxbaldwin> unop: fosco_: bunzip isn't a command...
[15:45] <sorush20> I'm using the repository that was recommended.
[15:45] <Segaja> fosco_: i have 7.6-2
[15:45] <fosco_> Segaja: newest in repos is 7.6
[15:46] <Cripps> maxbaldwin, bunzip2
[15:46] <fosco_> maxbaldwin: bunzip2
[15:46] <l0newolf> PriceChild: I'm using compiz and can use things like desktop cube (except it's desktop double sided paper) I've looked at viewports but I can't see anything about workspaces
[15:46] <Cripps> fosco_, I win ;)
[15:46] <fosco_> yeah ;)
[15:46] <raven> i need to make a bootable DOS usb stick
[15:46] <raven> but i have no idea hao to go about this in ubuntu
[15:46] <Cripps> raven, there should be some details on the freeDOS website.
[15:46] <maxbaldwin> oh, thanks Cripps / fosco_
[15:46] <Cripps> maxbaldwin, no problem.
[15:47] <kkady32> !microphone
[15:47] <PriceChild> l0newolf: gnome calls them workspaces, compiz calls them viewports
[15:47] <Cripps> kkady32, two turntables and a ...
[15:47] <PriceChild> l0newolf: you want to increase your viewports/workspaces, not desktops
[15:47] <kkady32> Cripps:???
[15:47] <n8tuser> juniecho-> you are not paying attention, save the current one, then do update, if the new update dont work, copy over the specific driver to new and test again, if it dont work you have copy of hte old dir
[15:47] <l0newolf> PriceChild: ah ok, where do you do that?  I can't see an option on the viewports area
[15:47] <Cripps> kkady32, "two turntables and a microphone" ... it's a song, by  Beck
[15:47] <chazco> Hi... 2.6.27-10 is intrepid-proposed, and supposedly fixes some bugs. Does anyone know how long it'll take to enter the update repos? Also wondering if anyone knows how to join a WPA-Ent, tkip, peap, mchapv2 network?
[15:48] <egonw> hi all, when I 'sudo aptitude install bugzilla3', I get this error after which it just hangs: 'Looks like we don't have an administrator set up yet. ... <snip>stty: standard input: Invalid argument"
[15:48] <fosco_> l0newolf: in compiz to change desktop size go to ccsm - general options - desktop size - put 4 there
[15:48] <kkady32> Cripps:how cann i test when my microphone work?
[15:48] <PriceChild> l0newolf: not sure sorry, but you want to change your desktop size back to how it was afaik
[15:48] <Cripps> kkady32, just a moment
[15:48] <fosco_> l0newolf: but desktop switcher applet will not work, becouse it works with metacity
[15:48] <|{53> fosco_: wonder why it even defaults to 2??!
[15:48] <PriceChild> l0newolf: oh i remember
[15:48] <PriceChild> l0newolf: right click the viewports bottom right, and choose preferences
[15:48] <PriceChild> l0newolf: change it from there instead
[15:48] <techqbert> When I updated to 8.10, my network-manager lost the ability to join a WPA Radius wifi network.  Any chance I could downgrade back the 8.04 packages just for network-manager and the gnome-frontend.
[15:49] <purvesh> hi
[15:49] <nightstalker> Hello does anyone know where I can download the English national antheme instrumetal full length ??
[15:49] <PriceChild> l0newolf: ie the bit on your gnome panel
[15:49] <l0newolf> PriceChild: I tried that, that's what didn't work but fosco just gave me the solution  :)
[15:49] <l0newolf> fosco_: many thanks  :D
[15:49] <n8tuser> chazco-> isnt the concept of proposed is just that proposed? may not be even supported yet fully..so go ahead and take the risk..but you will not get support on this channel for early stuff
[15:49] <bazhang> !offtopic | nightstalker
[15:49] <sorush20> bug number one is not being helped out if the OOo decision is not to be sorted out soon.
[15:49] <nightstalker> Okay I'll do it
[15:49] <Cripps> kkady32, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:49] <nightstalker> #thank you for your help
[15:50] <sorush20> http://www.tectonic.co.za/?p=3447
[15:50] <nightstalker> :-)
[15:50] <nightstalker> nice weekend
[15:50] <kkady32> Cripps:8.10
[15:50] <chazco> n8tuser - I thought proposed were basically pre-release packages, or are they more experimental than than?
[15:50] <purvesh> i want know how to install samsung printer scx4200 in ubuntu.
[15:50] <juniecho> n8tuser//ok thanks! :)
[15:50] <kkady32> Cripps:8.10 64
[15:50] <n8tuser> chazco-> i honestly dont know 100% about that, but you can be the test guinea pig :P
[15:50] <cliffbreaker> hi everyone. Still have the same problem. Cannot set the correct resolution for boot splash screen. Tried to add vga=791 parameter to kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst but it goes wrong. Want 1024x168 resolution. Please somebody help me.
[15:51] <Cripps> kkady32, try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/musicvideophotos/C/music.html#music-recording
[15:51] <chazco> heh, ok. Thanks anyway.
[15:51] <kkady32> Cripps:ok thx
[15:52] <netyire> cliffbreaker: install startupmanager
[15:52] <netyire> it's a gui to that
[15:53] <kkady32> Cripps:cann u help me with pidgin,work but cannot transfer file,same gyache and kopete?
[15:53] <cliffbreaker> netyire: i'll try it right now
[15:53] <chazco> Anyone know how to connect to a WPA-Ent, tkip, peap mchap-v2 network? It doesnt seem to want to work correctly on 8.10..
[15:53] <raven> Cripps, maybe im a tard, but i have no idea what u were sending me to find, can u help me make this dos usb stick :p
[15:55] <linuxnoop> can anyone tell me how i can download the update to play dvd's with ubuntu
[15:55] <megamaced> Anyone know where the PPTP VPN config files are stored for NetworkManager? I want to copy my VPNs to another machine. Ta
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[15:55] <Jimmy__> hey guys, i just installed ubuntu on a t400 laptop, however the ethernet card wasnt auto enabled and configured, is it easy to get it up and running? i see it in dmesg, its an intel pro 100/1000 network
[15:55] <iykrichie> hello all
[15:55] <Cripps> raven, http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=FdDocEn.BootDiskUsbWindows6
[15:56] <raven> i am making it in linux tho :/
[15:56] <iykrichie> i just ran update and after i got to a new kernel: my systems sound dissappered.. but it says the gstreamer are still installed
[15:56] <NicEXE> is there a way to restart the sound manager?
[15:56] <raven> well, i suppose i can just use syslinux and ignore the exe commands
[15:56] <n8tuser> Jimmy__-> easy, you can modify your interfaces file,   man interfaces
[15:56] <raven> shud work
[15:56] <raven> thanks
[15:56] <exodus_ms> linuxnoop, http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/12/14/how-to-enable-dvd-playback-ubuntu-510-6061-610/
[15:58] <Housefly7k> Hi guys, after updating kernel I get the following error at boot "kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown- block(0,0)"  kernel 2.6.25.7
[15:58] <iykrichie> should i go back to my old kernel
[15:58] <Housefly7k> using an older kernel I am able to load, any help would be appreciated
[15:59] <Jimmy__> n8tuser: this kind of tells me how to configure an existing interface, however, i dont have any?
[15:59] <iykrichie> i just got to 2.6.22.* and lost my sound
[15:59] <arvind_khadri> hi, how do i set themes for compiz?
[15:59] <tyler_d1> how do you delete a dir in term that starts with '-'
[15:59] <tyler_d1> ?
[15:59] <chazco> Anyone know how to connect to a WPA-Ent, tkip, peap mchap-v2 network? It doesnt seem to want to work correctly on 8.10..
[16:00] <Cripps> kkady32, you should try searching the ubuntu community forums, that's how I figured it out back in the day. I can't find the community doc on it, but, again, the forums should have the answer.
[16:00] <benoka> !wammu
[16:00] <sl_dude> ubuntu rocks
[16:00] <sl_dude> lol
[16:00] <benoka> !help wammu
[16:00] <kkady32> Cripps:ok ,thx
[16:01] <hellrabbit> Wammu hehe, now citibanks got there own problems ontop of Wammus
[16:01] <sl_dude> citibank is now poor bank. ;)
[16:01] <Cripps> what's that? weeaboo ?
[16:02] <sl_dude> hey does linux use java as well?
[16:02] <Pici> !offtopic
[16:02] <n8tuser> Jimmy__-> easy, you can modify your interfaces file,  add the line that you dont have, copy the idea from the man interfaces ?
[16:02] <sl_dude> i mean is java used to build linux?
[16:02] <superkiwi> Hello, I'm on ubuntu 8.10 and my soundsystem is 'hijacked', meaning no program produces sounds atm - Vlc crashed. How do I regain the sound without rebooting?
[16:02] <Housefly7k> The only difference I see in /boot/grub/menu.lst  is a missing line thats in the older kernels "initrd /boot/initrd.img****"
[16:03] <hellrabbit> Yeah, I fad for feel bad for recent college grads. no banking jobs for them... atleast not any time soon
[16:03] <hellrabbit> Is Wammu a prog / app though?
[16:03] <Cripps> Pici, who was that aimed at?
[16:03] <sl_dude> hey press Ctr+Shift+Backspace superwiki
[16:03] <sl_dude> and they log in see whether sound works
[16:03] <hellrabbit> Oh yeah hit alt - F4
[16:04] <Cripps> sl_dude, you can certainly use java under Linux, but there are no parts of Linux (read Linux is the Kernel) that are done in java
[16:04] <superkiwi> sl_dude: Doesn't that restart X?
[16:04] <sl_dude> ah thanks a lot Cripps
[16:04] <Cripps> superkiwi, yes, it's overkill
[16:04] <cliffbreaker> netyire. Thank you a lot. That helped
[16:04] <hellrabbit> Yeah it restarts X
[16:04] <sl_dude> one of my friends was bugging me today about it
[16:04] <hellrabbit> You would have to log back in :(
[16:04] <netyire> cliffbreaker: :-)
[16:04] <sl_dude> saying linux uses java.
[16:05] <Cripps> superkiwi, /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[16:05] <reduz-wrk> people of the ubuntu federation
[16:05] <superkiwi> Cripps: thanks :]
[16:05] <cliffbreaker> netyire: that's strange but it added the same parameter as I did)) dunno why)
[16:05] <sl_dude> hey what about alsa-mixer
[16:05] <reduz-wrk> I can't install adoble flash plugin, it still use some other crappy gpl flash plugin instead and youtube doesn't work :(
[16:05] <reduz-wrk> i only want my youtube back
[16:05] <Kornie> Anyone else having an issue with also hanging on sutdown?
[16:05] <reduz-wrk> any idea how to fix?
[16:05] <Cripps> sl_dude, there are java apllications that run under linux, and some distros may have java components, but java has nothing to do with Linux itself.
[16:05] <iykrichie> hw can i get my sound back
[16:05] <iykrichie> ?
[16:05] <sl_dude> sorry its should actually be
[16:05] <Cripps> superkiwi, yw.
[16:05] <Kornie> *alsa
[16:06] <Static--> Kornie:  i am as well
[16:06] <hellrabbit> Download Flash, then shut down your browser... I rarely have any problems...
[16:06] <Cripps> iykrichie, see what I said to superkiwi
[16:06] <sl_dude> hey what's it i've forgotten
[16:06] <Larrxi> anyone that have run the radeonhd drivers? does it make up with the nvidia drivers?
[16:06] <reduz-wrk> hellrabbit, doesn
[16:06] <reduz-wrk> er
[16:06] <reduz-wrk> work
[16:06] <sl_dude> ah flash is a big problem now
[16:06] <adrenergic> hi room
[16:06] <hellrabbit> eh?
[16:06] <sl_dude> you guys having similar problems?
[16:06] <Cripps> sl_dude, alsa-mixer is part of alsa-utils
[16:06] <sl_dude> ok.
[16:06] <reduz-wrk> is there a way to setup which flash plugin do i want to use?
[16:06] <sl_dude> thanks for sharing your knowledge Cripps
[16:07] <adrenergic> i need help? i've got problem with my resolution.... can somebody help me to fix it
[16:07] <iykrichie> cripps u could still say it again
[16:07] <Cripps> sl_dude, no problem :)
[16:07] <adrenergic> i want to get higher resolution
[16:07] <Jimmy__> hey guys, i just installed ubuntu on a t400 laptop, however the ethernet card wasnt auto enabled and configured, is it easy to get it up and running? i see it in dmesg, its an intel pro 100/1000 network
[16:07] <Cripps> iykrichie,  superkiwi, /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[16:07] <superkiwi> Cripps: I didn't work however :+
[16:07] <sl_dude> well you'll have to go to synaptic package manager and do a search reduz-wrk
[16:07] <Cripps> superkiwi, hmm ... just a moment
[16:07] <Larrxi> adrenergic you should use xrandr
[16:07] <reduz-wrk> sl_dude, but i have all 3 of them installed, i just want to switch between them
[16:07] <hellrabbit> ADRE you might have to edit the X11 config (win guy) file
[16:07] <iykrichie> i should just run /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart at the terminal?
[16:08] <Cripps> superkiwi, try: sudo alsa force-reload
[16:08] <xbaez> hi
[16:08] <dayzman> hi
[16:08] <dayzman> does anyone know how to convert an eps to a pdf?
[16:08] <sl_dude> oh, ok.
[16:08] <adrenergic> how-to goto an unknown resolution.... which is undetected by the OS Larrxi ?
[16:08] <sl_dude> what browsr are you using reduz?
[16:08] <n8tuser> Kornie-> how often is the stall ?
[16:08] <Cripps> superkiwi, iykrichie sorry, the /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart needed to be run as sudo
[16:08] <Blaze_Boy> [Problem]: i when i delete any file from any partition (FAT32) on my HDD Ubuntu hardy says "Cannot move file to the Deleted Items folder, do you want to delete permanently? The file "SecureTraveler User's Manual.pdf" cannot be moved to the wastebasket." , i'v made all the partitions automountable on startup , can anybody help in that small problem ?
[16:08] <Static--> n8tuser: mine locks up on every shutdown - restart
[16:09] <iykrichie>  did that with a sudo
[16:09] <Cripps> Blaze_Boy, what does "ls -la <name of file>" give you?
[16:09] <xbaez> why if i add the connection info in the Network Manager Applet, ubuntu doesn't keep the configuration and every reboot i have to put the info again ?
[16:09] <superkiwi> Cripps: None of them worked. The second one restarted the mixer applet in gnome aswell.
[16:09] <iykrichie> Cripps do i need to restart to confirm it works?
[16:09] <hellrabbit> Xbaez, did you save it as a new profile?
[16:09] <n8tuser> Static---> look into /etc/udev/rules.d/85-ifupdown.rules    you can trace this and find out if your interfaces are not shutdown
[16:09] <tyler_d1> for real, no one knows how to get rid of a dir that starts with a special char?
[16:09] <Cripps> iykrichie, no, you shouldn't need to, if it doesn't work now, then the command didn't do what I thought it woiuld.
[16:10] <n8tuser> tyler_d1-> have you tried to google yet?
[16:10] <Cripps> iykrichie, superkiwi, *maybe* restarting X will fix things, it's not a pretty solution, but it might work.
[16:10]  * Cripps hates heavy-handed solutions
[16:10] <raven> is there a way to LITERALLY - boot sector and all - burn an iso to a usb drive
[16:10] <n8tuser> xbaez-> i believe there is bug submitted for that, if you were using 8.10
[16:10] <Blaze_Boy> Cripps: -rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1584901 2008-10-24 19:23 SecureTraveler User's Manual.pdf
[16:11] <superkiwi> Cripps: I'l try restarting X.
[16:11] <xbaez> hellrabbit, nop, i just edit the eth1 connection
[16:11] <hellrabbit> I agree with Cripps, if you reboot and at log on splash restart X it works for me and my KVM switch problems
[16:11] <iykrichie> i think i better restart
[16:11] <xbaez> i have to save it as a new profile
[16:11] <xbaez> ?
[16:11] <iykrichie> brb
[16:11] <Cripps> hellrabbit, skip the reboot.
[16:11] <Cripps> you should never need to reboot unless you have a new kernel.
[16:11] <sl_dude> true.
[16:11] <sl_dude> :)
[16:11] <Cripps> *unless you want to restart into a different kernel
[16:11] <Blaze_Boy> Cripps: so?
[16:12] <Cripps> Blaze_Boy, just a sec
[16:12] <superkiwi> Cripps: Nothing changed, still no sound.
[16:12] <sl_dude> restart is a bad habit of windows users :D
[16:12] <sl_dude> hey superwiki are using speakers?
[16:12] <superkiwi> Yeh, I am
[16:12] <Larrxi> adrenergic: i dont know it myself, xrandr -q shows the modes available though
[16:13] <hellrabbit> Xbaez, oh if your config. via console I'm not much help... I've tried to be uber cool and run lnx )no gui_ I always get stuck when I try to setup wireless :) :(
[16:13] <heogen> hello
[16:13] <Cripps> Blaze_Boy, would you please pastea copy of your /etc/fstab, ls -la (of the file) and a session where you try to delete the file onto a pastebin?
[16:13] <sl_dude> oh, well sometimes it might something to do with your sound settings.
[16:13] <heogen> how to unlock ogle
[16:13] <superkiwi> It's cambridge gigaworks
[16:13] <sl_dude> does the sound icon appear in the panel
[16:13] <heogen> this is the error FATAL[ogle_mpeg_ps]: dvdreadblocks failed
[16:13] <Cripps> superkiwi, maybe it's something wrong with the sound configuration then. IDd you change anything recently?
[16:13] <Cripps> %s/IDd/did/
[16:13] <Segaja> fosco_: i know. but is there a .deb file of version 7.7 or higher available?
[16:13] <heogen> anyone know how can to resolve this problem?
[16:14] <heogen> with ogle
[16:14] <superkiwi> Cripps: I haven't changed anything since last boot.
[16:14] <Larrxi> does anyone know what does not work with radeonhd?
[16:14] <hellrabbit> Anyone know of an open source Flash creation program? ie make flash games.
[16:15] <dennda> flashdev
[16:15] <jatt> hi, I've just installed the latest updates (for hardy), and after rebooting my sound card is not recognized anymore:
[16:15] <jatt> warning: 'alsactl store' failed with error message 'alsactl: save_state:1251: No soundcards found...
[16:15] <casey_1227888758> hi
[16:15] <SuperGeek> Hello, how can I disable the PC speaker beep that occurs when I use the terminal/
[16:15] <casey_1227888758> jatt
[16:15] <jatt> my card is a,
[16:15] <jatt> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[16:15] <hellrabbit> I'll check out flashdev thanks
[16:15] <casey_1227888758> casey
[16:15] <raven> jatt: those work with ubuntu out of the box
[16:15] <Cripps> superkiwi, sorry, I'm out of my experience now. All I can suggest is searching the forums.
[16:15] <jatt> how can I fix this problem
[16:15] <dennda> hellrabbit: http://osflash.org/
[16:15] <superkiwi> I use S/PDIF if that matters.
[16:15] <raven> jatt: curious: u using an eee?
[16:16] <jatt> worked perfectly until today when I ran the update manager and installed some updates
[16:16] <superkiwi> Cripps: ok, well thanks for the help. I'l try rebooting the whole machine.
[16:16] <jatt> that included the kernel
[16:16] <raven> jatt: try installing the backport kernel modules
[16:16] <raven> jatt: i dont know the package name
[16:16] <raven> jatt: that usually fixes something like that
[16:16] <sl_dude> hellrabbit, i think can make flash programs using OO impress as well.
[16:16] <Cripps> superkiwi, ouch ... I hope it still fails (because otherwise, it could be something difficult to find)
[16:16] <sl_dude> but im really not sure.
[16:16] <hellrabbit> Thanks guys / gals
[16:17] <Blaze_Boy> Cripps: http://dpaste.com/94398/
[16:17] <sl_dude> superwiki, just do some changes in your sound settings and see
[16:17] <Cripps> superkiwi, if it fails after a restart then maybe an update broke a configuration somewhere or something, but that's all I can think of.
[16:17] <Cripps> Blaze_Boy, thanks, give me a few minutes to pnder that.
[16:18] <Doonz2> Hey guys can someone help me out with volumes. By that i mean when i look under Places it shows me 2  things that im not sure where it got that lable from
[16:18] <Larrxi> adrenergic: look here for a sample xorg.conf: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2#xorg.conf
[16:18] <iykrichie> Cripps man i restarted and it worked
[16:18] <iykrichie> isi wiki still here
[16:18] <iykrichie> ?
[16:19] <adrenergic> thanks pal
[16:19] <w441> type /QUOTE PASS 14415
[16:19] <Doonz2> :)
[16:19] <hellrabbit> Anyone have issues with Compiz and there Notebook track pad causing cube rotation?
[16:19] <Larrxi> adrenergic: just skip all but that with modes
[16:19] <Cripps> Blaze_Boy, which partition is the file on? sda5, sda6, sda7, sda8, sda9, or sda10 ?
[16:19] <christopher> hello all
[16:19] <hellrabbit> Hey Chris
[16:20] <sl_dude> hello christopher
[16:20] <n8tuser> Doonz-> what labels are you speaking of?
[16:20] <Blaze_Boy> Cripps: all of them
[16:20] <raven> hellrabbit, if ur desktop is selected and u hold both buttons and then use the mouse wheel area it rotates, perhaps some accidental combo>?
[16:20] <Blaze_Boy> Cripps: all of them cause the problem with any file
[16:20] <LjL> w441: why?
[16:20] <SuperGeek> What is the default root password on Ubuntu? I just installed and didn't remember setting one
[16:20] <Cripps> Blaze_Boy, I think it has something to do with the "user" option in your fstab. Try replacing that with "defaults" instad.
[16:20] <christopher> i'm looking for a mac style dock any suggestions?
[16:20] <Cripps> !root > SuperGeek
[16:20] <iykrichie> can i get rid of the old kernels cos they are messing up the boot loader
[16:21] <hellrabbit> Oh, cool thanks Raven... it's been driving me nuts... Old dell inspiron here, figured it was something wierd... I probably hitem without knowing.
[16:21] <SuperGeek> ...
[16:21] <Doonz2> n8tuser,  when i look under places it shows that there is something called 1.9tb space and somehow my Raid 0 array has a name of 2000gb media
[16:21] <Blaze_Boy> Cripps: it's a permission denied problem, i tried the default but i have the problem of the arabic folder names :(
[16:21] <Cripps> iykrichie, how are they "messing up the bootloader?"
[16:21] <hellrabbit> Damn Dell keyboards... so bouncy
[16:21] <iykrichie> they are tool much
[16:21] <heogen> please help me
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[16:21] <heogen> how to unlock ogle
[16:21] <heogen> ?
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[16:22] <iykrichie> i have the .16, .21, and the .22 kernel with 2 sublists each
[16:22] <n8tuser> Doonz-> sudo fdisk -l   and compare whats shown
[16:22] <LjL> !ru | ffd
[16:22] <Segaja> so, has anybody an idea, how i get a .deb file for libpcre3 >= version 7.7 ?
[16:22] <iykrichie> i also have my xp at the end of the list..
[16:22] <heogen> anyone know?
[16:22] <Cripps> Blaze_Boy, yeah, the "user" permissions are quite restrictive ... if you can't do it with "defaults" then check out the fstab documentation, and try adding options manually instead of "user" ... experiment until you get a combination that works.
[16:22] <Doonz2> thats the thing i have 2 software raid 5 arrays. it just shows the disk but nowhere is these labels
[16:22] <SuperGeek> heh
[16:23] <Doonz2> n8tuser, thats the thing i have 2 software raid 5 arrays. it just shows the disk but nowhere is these labels
[16:23] <SuperGeek> GAH
[16:23] <hellrabbit> Has anyone successfull compiled / installed Framwork 3.0 ... I've DLd every ruby lib I can find... still trose Make error :(
[16:23] <SuperGeek> How do I disable the system beep?
[16:23] <SuperGeek> So annoying
[16:23] <n8tuser> Doonz-> use the lvm tools?
[16:23] <Cripps> iykrichie, you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst  and just comment out the ones you don't want. I never uninstall kernels because having the option to roll back in case of emergency is nice.
[16:23] <demonspork> SuperGeek, if you are ona  desktop you could try removing the speaker
[16:23] <iykrichie> i see
[16:24] <SuperGeek> demonspork, it's a laptop and i want to disable the system beep thing, not sounds in general
[16:24] <iykrichie> the comment is an '#' right?
[16:24] <Cripps> iykrichie, yep.
[16:24] <Blaze_Boy> Cripps: well, i can't do that cause that's the only working syntax that i'm comfortable with the problem is only that i can't access any deleted Bin on any partition, i think there is a good solution but htis
[16:24] <Doonz2> n8tuser,  ok ill try that
[16:25] <Cripps> Blaze_Boy, if it helps, you could try "rm -f <filename>" or simply "unlink <filename>" ... that'll delete them.
[16:25] <hellrabbit> Hypothetical / Moral question, if someone develops a game via open-source tools, and assuming it becomes popular... is it considered immoral in the OS world to then market that product thus making a living / profit?
[16:25] <ne2k__> I am seriously pissed off
[16:25] <cliffbreaker> where can i find a manual on how to create packages for ubuntu?
[16:25]  * Cripps doesn't like automatic utilities because they leave messy configurations
[16:26] <n8tuser> cliffbreaker-> google for it?
[16:26] <ne2k__> I have just release upgraded my ubuntu from 6.06 to 8.04 and I can't boot it, because the pata_it821x module is broken. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/106931
[16:26] <Cripps> n8tuser, you beat me to it.
[16:26] <n8tuser> lol
[16:26] <Cripps> :)
[16:26] <sipior> hellrabbit: no
[16:26] <urbands> you can make money
[16:27] <n8tuser> Cripps-> some just dont want to hard work anymore..lol
[16:27] <Blaze_Boy> Cripps: try to understand me i need to globalize that solution on any user on the PC and i can't delete every file i need from the terminal even if i can my little sister can't i need to eliminate with a full solution not a half solution
[16:27] <snowhite> hej någon som kunde hjälpa mig att vart ska jag installera AUTORUN till min INTREPID där den inte finns med?
[16:27] <majnoon> sipior, if gpl you just need to give the code isn't that right ?
[16:27] <ne2k__> I originally installed the it8212 module manually (I can't remember how I got it on there -- possibly off a floppy)
[16:27] <sipior> majnoon: "open" doesn't necessarily mean "gpl"
[16:28] <xbaez> hellrabbit, ok thanks !
[16:28] <Berobero> hello
[16:28] <ne2k__> !se | snowhite
[16:28] <Doonz2> n8tuser,  i installed it from add/remove but when i click on it it goes to open and then closes
[16:28] <Berobero> need some help on serial ports. trying to connect UPS but fails
[16:28] <sipior> majnoon: but i believe that interpretation is basically right, though of course ianal :)
[16:28] <majnoon> but under GPL that the case iirr
[16:28] <Cripps> Blaze_Boy, I understand, but the only solution, for you, is to read the documentation and figure out what works for you.
[16:28] <snowhite> hej vet någon här hur jag ska intsallera autorun i miin intrepid?
[16:29] <Doonz2> what command can i use in terminal to show the labels of mounted volumes and stuff
[16:29] <hellrabbit> Ok, cuase it seems the OS activists go to extremes in there blogs about how all software (IP's) should be free. Seems a bit ons sided of a belief (for lack of a better term)
[16:29] <Cripps> snowhite, we're not dutch ;)
[16:29] <ne2k__> Cripps: it's swedish
[16:29] <magnetron> snowhite→ #ubuntu-se för svensk chatt
[16:29] <ne2k__> magnetron: ;-)
[16:29] <snowhite> Hi anyone here who could help me about how to install AUTORUN in my Intrepid?
[16:29] <Cripps> ne2k__, well, I'm not swejdish either :P
[16:29] <n8tuser> Doonz-> mount
[16:30] <Cripps> ne2k__, the two languages do look quite similar.
[16:30] <magnetron> Cripps→ are you unable to spell?
[16:30] <ne2k__> Cripps: they look remarkably different to me
[16:30] <n8tuser> they are chinese to me..:)
[16:30] <Cripps> ne2k__, it's all about experience ... I don't have much experience with swedish
[16:30] <snowhite> hej ingen som vet hur jag ska installera i min INtrepid Autokörning???
[16:30] <Blaze_Boy> Cripps: like that i couldn't know that myself, i damn know that i can read, i read all the day and night , i need to have some rest and use another one's experience to solve my problems , that's the benifit of the ubuntu community isn't it?
[16:31] <hellrabbit> Any-who, take care everyone. Don't go to Wallmart, you may get trampled... too soon I know.
[16:31] <ne2k__> snowhite: you are going to get banned
[16:31] <Berobero> connected serial cable to port A of IBM netfinity but cant use ttyS0 nor 1. they seem locked
[16:31] <Seven_Six_Two> I read that the development on kde3.5 has pretty much stopped, but will it still be available if I upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10?
[16:31] <ribas1> hi,
[16:31] <Doonz2> n8tuser,  ok i used the mount command but it doesnt show labels or anything like that
[16:31] <magnetron> snowhite→ den här kanalen är bara för frågor på engelska, gå in i kanalen #ubuntu-se för att chatta på svenska
[16:31] <n8tuser> hellrabbit-> in the spirit of giving gifts.
[16:31] <ribas1> been surfing all over the place to install lxde
[16:31] <LjL> snowhite: SISTA VARNING, använd #ubuntu-se för att snacka svenska eller prata här på engelska.
[16:31] <ribas1> can't make it due to unresolved dependencies
[16:31] <bazhang> ribas1, sudo apt-get install lxde
[16:31] <Cripps> Blaze_Boy, please, calm down. I've given you the experience that I can, and since that doesn't entirely fix the problem you are having, I suggested a place to look. A community is here to help, not to do the work for you.
[16:31] <ribas1> lxde and lxde core
[16:32] <bazhang> ribas1, that will bring in other packages as well
[16:32] <macjason0607> guys what parts do remote desktop run on  ?
[16:32] <ribas1> removed evrything related with lxde from sources.list
[16:32] <ribas1> bazhang: yes, but where are the repos? followe these
[16:32] <bazhang> !info lxde
[16:32] <ne2k__> does the server iso have a rescue environment on it?
[16:33] <sinan1> anyone knows a torrent application that lets you set when to download and when not to download? (a la uTorrent)
[16:33] <heogen> unlock ogle, anyone know?
[16:33] <heogen> !-#!FATAL[ogle_mpeg_ps]: dvdreadblocks failed
[16:33] <Seven_Six_Two> sinan1, ktorrent with the scheduler plugin
[16:33] <sinan1> Seven_Six_Two:
[16:33] <snowhite> hej hur ska jag installera automat körningen i min Intrepid?
[16:33] <sinan1> thanks :)
[16:33] <Berobero> pls tell me how to get rid of the ttyS1 lock
[16:34] <Berobero> removed everything under /var/lock dir
[16:34] <Cripps> Seven_Six_Two, I love ktorrent :)
[16:34] <Seven_Six_Two> !ubottu kde3.5
[16:34] <Seven_Six_Two> !kde3.5
[16:34] <Cripps> !kde
[16:34] <LjL> !fishing
[16:34] <alexmax_> kde 4 looks hilarious
[16:34] <LjL> !offtopic
[16:34] <Seven_Six_Two> !kde4
[16:34] <Seven_Six_Two> aw that doesn't help
[16:35] <Cripps> lol.
[16:35] <Cripps> Seven_Six_Two, what are you looking for?
[16:35] <Seven_Six_Two> I just want to make sure that 3.5 and 4 are options in 8.10
[16:35] <Cripps> LjL, who was offtopic?
[16:35] <Cripps> Seven_Six_Two, they are.
[16:35] <dayzman> does anyone know how to convert an eps to a ps?
[16:35] <Seven_Six_Two> ok thanks Cripps
[16:35] <dayzman> does ps2eps have a reverse mode?
[16:35] <Cripps> Seven_Six_Two, no prob.
[16:36] <LjL> Cripps: alexmax
[16:36] <LjL> (and now, you and me)
[16:36] <osxdude|laptop> >_<
[16:36] <Doonz2> Doonz
[16:36] <intercool> Anyone have problems with spdif and analog music? I am not able to change volume.. DTS sound works great though..
[16:37] <intercool> analog music  = mp3 etc, not DTS/AC3 mixed music
[16:37] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm assuming the nvidia situation is also fixed? (the lack of direct rendering)
[16:37] <osxdude|laptop> intercool, you won't be able to change the volume...you have to use the audio input volume control.
[16:37] <veranda> Enter text here...h
[16:37] <osxdude|laptop> >_<
[16:38] <veranda> how r u all
[16:38] <osxdude|laptop> Stopping the chat, one ban at a time
[16:38] <babygirl> hi
[16:38] <veranda> hy
[16:38] <osxdude|laptop> intercool, are you using an optical cable for all sources? analog and DTS?
[16:38] <veranda> wooooo
[16:38] <Doonz2> how do i modify Volume Labels?
[16:38] <intercool> osxdude|laptop: yes, for all.
[16:39] <LjL> !offtopic | veranda
[16:39] <veranda> can any1 c me here .................hello
[16:39] <osxdude|laptop> intercool, then you would have to use the surround reciever's volume control.
[16:39] <DawnLight> Doonz2: there's a command... tune2fs
[16:40] <veranda> quit
[16:40] <osxdude|laptop> intercool, or, more in general, the volume control of the...audio reciever.
[16:40] <DawnLight> hey - i want to install kubuntu on a usb attached hdd. is this possible? i want this drive to be able to move from one machine to another
[16:40] <sipior> dayzman: if you're lucky, you only need to remove the BoundingBox. you might look at ImageMagick, i seem to remember it understanding the eps format
[16:40] <apastinen> hello, how can i mount device so that it is owner by some user, not the root?
[16:40] <intercool> osxdude|laptop: thats wierd.. DTS has only one sound level. and works great. But regular sound has to low volume to regulate on the amp, even i i crank it up to the max
[16:41] <KRF> apastinen, mount dev path -o user=<username>,group=<group> afaik
[16:41] <osxdude|laptop> intercool, I would think on analog outputs you would have to adjust either the Volume Control's volumes, or the application's volumes.
[16:42] <KRF> man mount helps
[16:42] <mon^rch> is there a faq on how to install openoffice 3 on ubuntu 8.04?
[16:43] <SuperGeek> How do I remove that little "This command is not valid but you can get it by typing apt-get install etc"?
[16:43] <ne2k__> how do I tell if my processor is amd64 or i386? what should I look for in dmesg?
[16:43] <intercool> osxdude|laptop: when i try to controle the volume in lets say totem og rythmbox there is only "on" and "off" no volume gets modified with the slider.
[16:43] <grafica17> hi
[16:44] <un1t> Hi im using Ubuntu on macbook with madwifi now ive done an kernel update and wlan does not function any longer
[16:44] <un1t> what can i do
[16:44] <un1t> ?
[16:44] <apastinen> KRF: yeah i am familiar with mount and know the man pages, i just cant handle it. you example also didnt it
[16:44] <grafica17> no
[16:44] <sipior> SuperGeek: i believe you just need to uninstall "command-not-found"
[16:44] <n8tuser> ne2k__-> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[16:44] <SuperGeek> thanks sipior
[16:44] <osxdude|laptop> intercool, then I would check the volume control.
[16:44] <grafica17> why
[16:45] <grafica17> hmmmmmm
[16:45] <osxdude|laptop> intercool, that is, the mixer.
[16:45] <ne2k__> n8tuser: what flag should I look for?
[16:45] <intercool> hehe checked both alsamixer and gnome-mixer no volume control is reacting..
[16:45] <intercool> have googled for it seems to be a problem that others have also
[16:45] <apastinen> Anyone? How can i mount for specified user? "-o user=bbstored" gives: ReiserFS: dm-1: warning: unknown mount option "user=bbstored"
[16:46] <intercool> when using optical og coax
[16:46] <n8tuser> ne2k__-> cat /proc/cpuinfo  read the info ?
[16:46]  * I Sorush is away: Gone away for now
[16:46] <ne2k__> n8tuser: errm, so how do you tell if it's a 64 bit processor?
[16:46] <Pici> !away > I
[16:46] <ribas1> !info lxde
[16:47] <osxdude|laptop> intercool, then it's an ubuntu bug >_<
[16:47] <osxdude|laptop> or smething
[16:47] <n8tuser> ne2k__-> paste the results of that, and lets see if we can interpret
[16:47] <kk> h i everyone
[16:47] <ribas1> anyhow, can't install becaus edependecies openbox cannot be installed
[16:47] <ne2k__> n8tuser: nm, ##linux helped. flags will include "lm" if 64 bit mode is supported
[16:48] <ribas1> wanted to try lxde cause is kind of lighter than gnome
[16:49] <ribas1> trying deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/lxde/ubuntu intrepid main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/lxde/ubuntu intrepid main
[16:50] <Doonz2> DawnLight, how do i use that program (sorry im a linux noobie)
[16:51] <bobdobolina> ok when i login it network manager wants my keyring, how do i make it remember the password
[16:51] <ribas1> can't find all lxde packages...anyone running lxde?
[16:51] <seyacat> Hi ubuntuers!!!
[16:51] <zse> hi how do i download ubuntu
[16:51] <bobdobolina> hey
[16:52] <bobdobolina> ok when i login it network manager wants my keyring, how do i make it remember the password
[16:52] <seyacat> please help me, do you know it exists a webcam with control panel, auto exposition and other settings?
[16:52] <ribas1> zse: using windows?
[16:52] <Pici> zse: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[16:52] <ribas1> cool :)
[16:52] <chavez83> Hey all you searched a long lon gtime for a solution for my GeForce 7600GT PCI-E may someone can help me
[16:52] <zse> ribas1, ya
[16:52] <chavez83> qry me plz
[16:52] <zse> Pici: so i just click on it and it starts to work?
[16:53] <bobdobolina> on my other computer it forces me to go to low graphics mode because its the only way to turn the comp on then only kde sessions work and ubuntu is scrambled
[16:53] <sipior> apastinen: i think you just want to add the "user" option on the appropriate entry in /etc/fstab, which allows any user to mount the volume.
[16:54] <Pici> zse: Just download from there and then follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Standard%20installation
[16:54] <zse> how do i use it to hack computer machines?
[16:54] <zse> people tell me linux == hacking os?
[16:54]  * sipior smacks zse
[16:54] <basso> i want to to this. Bridge wireless and wired network on my laptop. So i can make an ADHOC on the wireless and share the internet connection at home.. How do i do that? :P
[16:54] <ribas1> zxe: u need to learn a lot...
[16:54] <ne2k__> basso: you need to look at "man brctl"
[16:54] <bobdobolina> u just type in teh codez to haxors
[16:54] <ribas1> don't make any sense what ur saying...
[16:55] <zse> kkk downloading
[16:55] <RemsSs> Hi everybody
[16:55] <ne2k__> basso: and search for "bridge howto"
[16:55] <zse> going to try to use it
[16:55] <zse> learn how to hack computer mahcines using it
[16:55] <sipior> zse: please don't
[16:55] <zse> with specially crafted packetz
[16:55] <Pici> zse: Thats not the focus of Linux and you won't find support for that here.
[16:55] <zse> sipior: no!
[16:55] <ne2k__> basso: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bridge/index.html
[16:55] <zse> Pici: huh?
[16:55] <bobdobolina> ya i think that will take some time but i suggest you start learning now
[16:55] <zse> i thought it was a hacker who made it
[16:56] <chavez83> is some one experienced about installing the Nvidia Drivers for a PCI-E Graphicscard? i always get a black screen after installing the driver
[16:56] <islamux> hay
[16:56] <Cripps> basso, with the tools available it's unlikely to work, it all depends on your wireless card. If you have a compatible wireless card, check out ipbridge (I think, give me a moment to confirm)
[16:56] <Pici> zse: I suggest you look up a definition of hacking, its not meant for malicious purposes.
[16:56] <jewel> hey, can anyone help me with virtulization?
[16:56] <sipior> maybe he hacked localhost
[16:56] <ne2k__> Cripps: what makes you think that bridging the two cards together will not work?
[16:57] <basso> whoa advanced..
[16:57] <Kornie> OK, I have to ask this anyone running World of warcraft in WINE and having issues with Graphical issues?
[16:58] <Cripps> bassliner, sorry, bridge-utils
[16:58] <demonspork> Kornie, the wine people hang out in #wine
[16:58] <Cripps> ne2k__, because I've tried.
[16:58] <ribas1> zse: you can try to start by looking on google terms like dual boot linux and windows, boot loader, desktop in linux, packages in linux
[16:58] <jewel> hey, can anyone help me with virtulization?
[16:58] <demonspork> Kornie, #winehq
[16:58] <Cripps> ne2k__, it has something to do withg the firmware of the wireless card that presents problems when bridging it to a wired connection.
[16:58] <Cripps> %s/withg/with the/
[16:59] <sipior> jewel: difficult to say without knowing what sort of problem you're having
[16:59] <chavez83> is some one experienced about installing the Nvidia Drivers for a PCI-E Graphicscard? i always get a black screen after installing the driver
[16:59]  * sorush20 Sorush is back.
[16:59] <bobdobolina> ok when i login network manager wants my keyring, how do i make it remember the password
[16:59] <Doonz2> I mounted two raid arrays ,they were mounted in /home/server/rs1 and /home/server/rs2. On the desktop the array that was mounted in /home/server/rs1 shows up on the desktop as 2000.4 Gb Media and the one mounted in /home/server/rs2 shows up as rs2 on the desktop Im trying to figure out where that label 2000.4Gb Media came from and howto change it to rs1. Any ideas?
[16:59] <n8tuser> Cripps-> which card was that you had issues bridging?
[16:59] <vladtsepesh1984> anyone who knows a way to sync windows mobile smartphone with evolution???? please help me!!!! i need it!!!!
[17:00] <apastinen> sipior: no, i want to mount partition so that only one specified user has access to it
[17:00] <n8tuser> Doonz-> perhaps your udev rules has something to do with those labels
[17:00] <Cripps> n8tuser, ipw3945
[17:00] <ne2k__> n8tuser: well, there's no harm in trying. it's not very hard. basically, you create a bridge with brctl, and then add interfaces to it.
[17:00] <bobdobolina> start by looking up elite haxorz and learn how to type in letters on the keyboard to hax ur friends aim and tell everyone that u have ur pants down on their aim
[17:00] <seyacat> please help me, do you know it exists a webcam with control panel, auto exposition and other settings?
[17:00] <juancabrito> hey. can anyone help me with VMWare?
[17:00] <sipior> apastinen: set permissions accordingly
[17:00] <apastinen> sipior: without any other stages
[17:00] <Cripps> basso, "whoah advanced" ?
[17:00] <n8tuser> ne2k__-> right
[17:00] <vladtsepesh1984> ﻿anyone who knows a way to sync windows mobile smartphone with evolution???? please help me!!!! i need it!!!!
[17:01] <Grom> .
[17:01] <ne2k__> n8tuser: it's all in that mini howto
[17:01] <apastinen> sipior: i must happend in mount
[17:01] <sipior> apastinen: well, it's not going to :-)
[17:01] <n8tuser> ne2k__-> uhuh
[17:01] <Doonz2> n8tuser,  what is udev?
[17:01] <bobdobolina> on my other computer it forces me to go to low graphics mode because its the only way to turn the comp on then only kde sessions work and ubuntu is scrambled
[17:01] <apastinen> sipior: sad..
[17:02] <vladtsepesh1984> ﻿anyone who knows a way to sync windows mobile smartphone with evolution???? please help me!!!! i need it!!!!
[17:02] <ne2k__> n8tuser: it's fairly old; I think bridging is on by default in linux kernel now, so you don't have to do any of the initial stuff
[17:02] <juancabrito> can I install a software again to have it working or should I uninstall it first?
[17:02] <apastinen> sipior: i have parition in LVM to reserved for backups, and if i need to restart the server, i want permission to set up automatically
[17:02] <sipior> vladtsepesh1984: yeah, we head you the first time.
[17:02] <ne2k__> n8tuser: actually that howto looks crap
[17:02] <aboSamoor> I want to run an application on a remote server logining by ssh. i don't want to close the terminal without closing the program on that remote machine
[17:02] <sipior> or heard, even
[17:02] <ne2k__> n8tuser: search for brctl
[17:02] <aboSamoor> how can I do that ?
[17:03] <delta214> anyone know what i should use to delete an unused partition in xp?
[17:03] <ne2k__> aboSamoor: that's the default behaviour
[17:03] <n8tuser> ne2k__-> uhuh
[17:03] <vladtsepesh1984> ﻿sipior probably someone entered the chat after i said it the first time...
[17:03] <sipior> apastinen: why does that need to have the permissions of a specific user?
[17:03] <n8tuser> aboSamoor-> man screen
[17:04] <emilien> gnome-panel keeps going at 99 cpu randomly any ideas ?
[17:04] <apastinen> sipior: i want that only my backup daemon has RW access to it
[17:04] <sanguisdex> does the package svn include svn-load-dirs?
[17:04] <sanguisdex> how can I find that out?
[17:04] <sipior> vladtsepesh1984: it's considered bad manners to repeat your question more often than once every few minutes.
[17:04] <aboSamoor> n8tuser, in fact I tried and I did not figure how ? :(
[17:04] <apastinen> sipior: .. and because there is no need for other users to read it
[17:04] <bobdobolina> ok when i login network manager wants my keyring, how do i make it remember the password
[17:04] <n8tuser> aboSamoor-> man screen  read the details please
[17:05] <emilien> gnome-panel keeps going at 99 cpu randomly any ideas ?
[17:05] <tsuna27> how do i get rid of the update manager, i want ubuntu 2 just update itself automaticlly w/o notifing me
[17:05] <djzhan_> Hello,can anyone give me advices about how to choose a cpu family of AMD Sempro CPU while compiling kernel.
[17:05] <sipior> apastinen: and why doesn't that work if you set the ownership of the mount point correctly?
[17:05] <chavez83> is some one experienced about installing the Nvidia Drivers for a PCI-E Graphicscard? i always get a black screen after installing the driver
[17:05] <juancabrito> can I install a software again to have it working or should I uninstall it first?
[17:05] <djzhan_>  Hello,can anyone give me advices about how to choose a cpu family of AMD Sempro CPU while compiling kernel?
[17:05] <evolve_> Hi guys, I have been attempting to install ubuntu 8.10 on a Dell Inspiron 8200 off of both the desktop and alternate ISO's.  I confirmed that the CD's are working, and the ISO's are valid MD5 wise, however when I attempt to boot them in the machine they do absolutely nothing.  The boot order is setup correctly and just to ensure that I tried SMB and when I use that I get the message "Disk Error! 0x0C"...and suggestions I'm completely at a loss
[17:05] <juancabrito> hey. can anyone help me with VMWare?
[17:05] <apastinen> sipior: well.. wait a second..
[17:05] <sipior> apastinen: or better, simply create a directory below the mount point, owned by your backup daemon
[17:05] <astor-brazil> juancabrito, what the question ?
[17:06] <Cripps> !windows > delta214
[17:06] <apastinen> sipior: http://pastebin.com/m46b8fab
[17:06] <Doonz2> !udev
[17:06] <Doonz2> me neither
[17:06] <russ> anyone's audio stop working after an update like mine?
[17:06] <chavez83> can some one help me with x,.. its about activating my Graphicsaccleration
[17:06] <n8tuser> evolve_-> before you install, boot fully on that livecd
[17:07] <lenios> hi, does anydoby know why ubuntu install cd can't find cd drive, booting from it?
[17:07] <coldhak> how do I share a folder on the network from the shell?
[17:07] <apastinen> sipior: ok, that should do it..
[17:07] <vladtsepesh1984> sipior:sorry, i'll wait 10 minutes
[17:07] <apastinen> sipior: thnx
[17:07] <evolve_> lenios: are you sure that the cd rom drive is first in the boot order?
[17:08] <sipior> apastinen: did that work?
[17:08] <juancabrito> astor-brazil: I installed VMWare Server, but the guest was too slow, so I decided to install VMWare Player, but now the http port of the VMWare server doesn't work anymore
[17:08] <astor-brazil> coldhak, you need first the samba installed
[17:08] <coldhak> i've done it from gnome/xfce before, but i happen to not have those installed here
[17:08] <coldhak> samba is installed.
[17:08] <genii> coldhak: NFS or CIFS ?
[17:08] <lenios> i boot from the cd, and on the ubuntu menu, i choose install, and then no cdrom drive found
[17:08] <sipior> vladtsepesh1984: no worries, you didn't know
[17:08] <ribas1> lxde? getting nuts :)
[17:08] <coldhak> genii, whatever ubuntu server installs as by default
[17:08] <apastinen> sipior: i will make different directory after mount point, it should do it.. it not the solution which i was searching but i can live with it :)
[17:09] <astor-brazil> juancabrito, the vmware player don't has the http conection, I recommend you to use virtual box, the performance is very high
[17:09] <coldhak> wait....what?
[17:09] <cliffbreaker> who can help? what is the package for gtk+ in repos?
[17:09] <genii> coldhak: You want to share to other linux/unix boxes or to Windows machines?
[17:10] <astor-brazil> coldhak, you'll need to edit the /etc/samba/smb.conf and follow the example, is very easy
[17:10] <n8tuser> cliffbreaker-> use this tool.   apt-cache search  gtk
[17:10] <coldhak> genii, windows machines
[17:10] <[Ramy]> n8tuser, trying screen mplayer foo , I got this error "[screen is terminating]"
[17:10] <coldhak> astor-brazil: thank you, I shall try that
 there is a great amount of programs containing gtk in their names
[17:10] <n8tuser> [Ramy]-> google for how to use screen
[17:11] <genii> coldhak: Then CIFS (samba) .       Edit /etc/samba/smb.conf     to suit your need. Then sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[17:11] <n8tuser> cliffbreaker-> well you have to choose which one you need
[17:11] <intercool> solution on ultra low volume on spdif optical and mp3 sound Is Open totem -> Preferences -> sound -> AC3 passhtru. Now every application i have tried in ubuntu works and volume controls work.
[17:11] <sipior> cliffbreaker: libgtk will probably give you a shorter search list
[17:12] <n8tuser> [Ramy]-> http://tldp.org/LDP/LGNET/147/appaiah.html
[17:12] <coldhak> if I share it like that, will other linux boxes(setup with fusesmb) detect it as if it were a windows server?
[17:13] <DawnLight> is it possible to install ubuntu on a usb hdd?
[17:13] <sipior> DawnLight: yep
[17:13] <n8tuser> DawnLight-> yes
[17:13] <DawnLight> wow
[17:13] <DawnLight> and... will it be able to traverse different machines?
[17:13] <astor-brazil> DawnLight, yes, its possible, I installed mine on a SDHC card
[17:14] <LabThug> I've determined that my LG GGW-H10N Blue-Ray burner is causing this:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/219786.  Anyone know how to workaround it?
[17:14] <sipior> DawnLight: by which you mean?
[17:14] <bobdobolina> ok when i login network manager wants my keyring, how do i make it remember the password
[17:14] <DawnLight> that it will be able to be used with different machines
[17:14] <DawnLight> how do i install it? via the normal installer?
[17:15] <bobdobolina> i added pam to the bottom of the file i was told and it didnt work
[17:15] <astor-brazil> DawnLight, why you dont use the live cd into a usb ?
[17:16] <n8tuser> astor-brazil-> are you suggesting to just copy the livecd over? i dont believe that will work
[17:16] <astor-brazil> n8tuser, the only problem is to save archives
[17:17] <DawnLight> astor-brazil: i want persistence. i'd like to have a laptop but i don't so i think maybe i can install it on my usb hdd and use people's computers because i travel
[17:17] <sipior> DawnLight: yes, if they can boot from usb. differing hardware may cause you some grief, but nothing insurmountable
[17:17] <seyacat> did you know if exists a webcam with settings gui to change exposition times brigness and others?
[17:17] <amh> ubuntu 8.10  when i get to the gnome login screen my keyboard and mouse dont appear to work. i cant type in a username or move the mouse at all.  i CAN ctrl+alt+del though.  when im at command prompt i can type fine.  previous version 6.06 and 8.04 both worked fine.
[17:17] <DawnLight> so how do i install it?
[17:18] <n8tuser> astor-brazil-> just copying the livecd into usb and boot from the usb? i dont think that will work
[17:18] <Doonz2> I mounted two raid arrays ,they were mounted in /home/server/rs1 and /home/server/rs2. On the desktop the array that was mounted in /home/server/rs1 shows up on the desktop as 2000.4 Gb Media and the one mounted in /home/server/rs2 shows up as rs2 on the desktop Im trying to figure out where that label 2000.4Gb Media came from and howto change it to rs1. Any ideas?
[17:18] <sipior> DawnLight: google for Ubuntu and "usb stick", that should give you quite a few pointers
[17:18] <n8tuser> Doonz-> i have suggested you look into udev rules, have  you done that yet?
[17:18] <Doonz2> n8tuser,  what is udev
[17:18] <mazadillon> When i leave ubuntu on the login screen after booting for a while and then come back later and login there is alot of lag
[17:18] <sipior> DawnLight: in fact, i'm fairly certain there's a howto in the main ubuntu user documentation repository
[17:19] <mazadillon> keyboard lag
[17:19] <_pirinto_> Is it posible to scan with a supported (and functioning in xsane) scanner with sane from the terminal with no X environment at all? Which packages are needed except for libsane
[17:19] <astor-brazil> n8tuser, no, you'll need use the isotostick script to do that, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[17:19] <n8tuser> Doonz-> then time for you to google for udev rules
[17:19] <mazadillon> audio lag
[17:19] <n8tuser> astor-brazil-> right, but the way you suggested earlier, you make it sound just copying it over will do the trick, which i know will not
[17:19] <bobdobolina> ok when i login network manager wants my keyring, how do i make it remember the password
[17:19] <mazadillon> I wonder if it is something to do with BOINC?
[17:20] <astor-brazil> n8tuser, just copy doesn't work, and the machine need have boot from usb on BIOS
[17:20] <n8tuser> astor-brazil-> i know,
[17:20] <LabThug> Anyone know a way to prevent ata "FROZEN" errors?
[17:21] <DawnLight> astor-brazil: this is about putting the live cd on a usb stick but i'd like persistance, also
[17:21] <amh> can anyone help with my keyboard + mouse problem?
[17:22] <Doonz2> ok n8tuser  i did the udev look up but nowhere does it show the label
[17:22] <astor-brazil> DawnLight, maybe will a litle complicated because the boot loader
[17:23] <astor-brazil> DawnLight, let me search how to do that
[17:23] <LabThug> Anyone in here ever seen an ata "FROZEN" exception message?
[17:23] <chmac> Is there a way to list all files (hidden and not) with command line expansion? Something like /* and /.* combined...
[17:23] <SuperGeek> Hey. Does the default install of Ubuntu come with Compiz Fusion or just Compiz?
[17:23] <n8tuser> Doonz-> here read.  http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
[17:24] <astor-brazil> chmac, ls -la
[17:24] <Stalker72> Can I get GarageBand to work in Ubuntu?
[17:24] <astor-brazil> DawnLight, http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar
[17:24] <chmac> astor-brazil: Apologies, I wasn't clear. I want to use commands like mv / cp, not ls
[17:25] <sevenseeker> need input on spam filtering, how much horsepower is generally needed for this?
[17:25] <sipior> Stalker72: no, i'm afraid not
[17:25] <Lucifer> I just installed ubuntu on my Lenovo Ideapad--it seems to have installed correctly, but when I boot up the computer, the GRUB menu isn' there. Any ideas?
[17:25] <brodymcd> my sound card was working until a couple days ago - can someone help me get it going again? Ubuntu 8.10....
[17:25] <astor-brazil> chmac, you need to copy all directory for example ?
[17:25] <[Ramy]> n8tuser, Thanks.
[17:25] <vladtsepesh1984> ﻿anyone who knows a way to sync windows mobile smartphone with evolution???? please help me!!!! i need it!!!!
[17:25] <sipior> sevenseeker: depends on how much mail you get...
[17:25] <n8tuser> [Ramy]-> you're welcome
[17:25] <chmac> astor-brazil: I want to copy all the files in the directory, but not the directory itself
[17:26] <zicho> im thinking i have a dbus-error... "banshee --pause" gives me "Unhandled Exception: System.Exception: Unable to open the session message bus". Also i cant start banshee by writing "banshee", i need to write "dbus-launch banshee". How can i fix this?
[17:26] <yo1991> #ubuntu-ro
[17:26] <mannytu> !gtub
[17:26] <Stalker72> sipior: Is there an alternative?
[17:26] <SuperGeek> !compiz
[17:26] <mannytu> !grub
[17:26] <amh> how can i get my keyboard and mouse to work in gnome using 8.10?
[17:26] <[Ramy]> how can I de-attach x server from applications and then reattach them ? so I have interface when I want to change something, then switch user interface off when I finish >
[17:26] <[Ramy]> ?
[17:26] <astor-brazil> chmac, try use the rsync command, for example $rsync -va diretory/ /mnt/destine/
[17:27] <sevenseeker> sipior: good point... is there a good algorithm for figuring it out?
[17:27] <chmac> astor-brazil: My question is specific to command line expansion on Ubuntu / debian
[17:27] <PrimeHaxor> Plz anyone use OpenQRM ?
[17:27] <sipior> Stalker72: some people claim Jokosher is an alternative. i've never tried it, ymmv, etc, etc.
[17:27] <Doonz2> n8tuser,  that udev isnt helping at all
[17:27] <vortex5> hi, easy editor (ee) is deleted in intrepid release, how can i get my favorite editor back?
[17:28] <Stalker72> sipior: Can I dual-boot Ubuntu and Mac OS X or something?
[17:28] <astor-brazil> chmac, rsync is a gnu command present into all gnu/linux, include Debian / Ubuntu
[17:28] <sipior> sevenseeker: not that i'm aware of, but if you're only dealing with a few thousand messages a day, and a relatively simple filter, i can't imagine it being a big issue.
[17:28] <sipior> Stalker72: if you've got a mac you can, yes
[17:28] <adac> SuperGeek, Compiz Fusion...but I'm not totally sure
[17:28] <Stalker72> sipior: I don't have a Mac.
[17:28] <russo> hi everyone, can someone tell how i can set up certain windows to open on certain desktops? Preferably with compiz, if possible.
[17:28] <chmac> astor-brazil: I don't know if you understand my question. The command `echo .*` shows how .* is expanded by bash before the command echo is called.
[17:29] <dany_21a_> chmac: http://www.faqs.org/docs/bashman/bashref_34.html
[17:29] <chmac> astor-brazil: I'm looking for an equivalent that includes both * and .* :)
[17:29] <ExecutiveOrder> what do i need to get .flv files to be supported?
[17:29] <brama> hi all
[17:30] <dany_21a_> ExecutiveOrder: try vlc (but other player might be fine too)
[17:30] <brama> guys, I'm in a pickle and gioogle is not helping
[17:30] <brama>  parport0: cannot grant exclusive access for device ppdev0
[17:30] <brama> perms are AOK
[17:30] <ExecutiveOrder> i have vlc
[17:30] <ExecutiveOrder> i have all the media players
[17:30] <brama> I suppose I am missing something obvious
[17:30] <chmac> dany_21a_: Thanks, I'm not sure I can see how to do what I want from that doc
[17:30] <brodymcd> can someone PLEASE help me with this audio problem?
[17:30] <chmac> dany_21a_: Do you know if it's possible on debian / ubuntu?
[17:30] <astor-brazil> chmac, sorry, I really dont understand your question :(
[17:30] <ExecutiveOrder> i need the coded for flv x-flash-video
[17:30] <ExecutiveOrder> codec
[17:30] <sevenseeker> sipior: do you think an embedded device, or smaller device like and ALIX would handle such a scenario as a few thousand messages a day?
[17:30] <chmac> The default on Fedora (at least was) that * expanded to all files, including .blah files
[17:30] <amh> is there anyone that can assist with my keyboard and mouse problem?  i've checked google and tried reconfiguring xserver - but nothing is helping.
[17:31] <dany_21a_> chmac: http://www.faqs.org/docs/bashman/bashref_55.html#SEC55 and look for "dotglob"
[17:31] <Takuya> Hey all, I'm having an issue with booting into Ubuntu. I'm on an Intel Mac if anyone knows anything about that, and I just can't see the boot device when I boot up (holding option) or through system prefs->startup disk.
[17:31] <bobdobolina> ok when i login network manager wants my keyring, how do i make it remember the password
[17:31] <ExecutiveOrder> some x-flash-videos will play and others wont, why?
[17:31] <ExecutiveOrder> and when i try to encode the ones that dont play it says unsupported codec
[17:31] <chills> hey guys.. my sound was working fine on ubuntu 8.10 but it crashed and i get it to work
[17:31] <Stalker72> sipior: Can I still dual-boot?
[17:31] <chills> rebooting helps the login sound comes after tat its dead
[17:32] <sipior> sevenseeker: i imagine it would. embedded machines are getting pretty snappy these days
[17:32] <chmac> dany_21a_: Awesome, thanks, I think that's the jackpot :)
[17:32] <sipior> Stalker72: no, i'm afraid not. blame Apple, they don't want their os running on third-party hardware...
[17:32] <cygoku> Is there anyway in Ubuntu to open sit (mac) file extension ?
[17:32] <Stalker72> sipior: :(
[17:33] <chills> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=music: Failed to connect stream: Invalid argument
[17:33] <sevenseeker> sipior: excellent, I will try it out (hoping to get me one of these systems within the month), thanks for your input
[17:33] <sipior> sevenseeker: have fun :)
[17:33] <ExecutiveOrder> what do i need to play all x-flash-video types?
[17:33] <Lucifer> The instructions on the GRUB help site didn't work--Ubuntu still won't boot
[17:34] <sevenseeker> sipior: on these little guys, I can't see how I couldn't :)  No worries about bricking it since it uses removable flash! Yay bleeding edge!
[17:34] <CelticLord> le peuple :)
[17:34] <sipior> cygoku: you know, i could've sworn that the stuffit expander people made a free version of their tool for linux. might try googling around, see if they still have it.
[17:34] <ExecutiveOrder> [flv @ 0xb1076110]Unsupported video codec (7)
[17:34] <ExecutiveOrder> [00000361] main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `undf'. VLC probably does not support this sound or video format.
[17:34] <ExecutiveOrder> what do i need to get it to play?
[17:34] <iris> hi all im using a fujitsu lifebook t3010, and i wish to boot a usb disk. i created the usb startup disk with the ubuntu 8.10 app. I've choosen everything in the boot menu and i still can't boot from usb. what do i do?
[17:35] <chmac> dany_21a_: I've hunted for that option for a very long time, muchas gracias :)
[17:35] <ExecutiveOrder> is your bios set to boot from usb iris
[17:35] <Lucifer> I just installed Ubuntu 8.10--The partition is there (Checked w/a livecd), but GRUB isn't coming up. I went to the GRUB help site and followed the commands, but they didn't work either
[17:35] <Lucifer> any ideas?
[17:35] <dany_21a_> chmac: np... just googled for "bash filename expansion"
[17:35] <Takuya> Anyone know about Intel Macs and booting Ubuntu?
[17:35] <chmac> dany_21a_: You're kidding? Damn, I'm sure I've looked in the past, but obviously not carefully enough! :)
[17:36] <DawnLight> iris: some hardware don't do this well. you can boot from a floppy with grub or a cd anduse grub to load the system that's on the usb
[17:36]  * chmac smacks himself on the wrist, always scroogle the question first...
[17:36] <iris> ExecutiveOrder, there's only Floppy, Hardisk, CDROM and Realtek boot menu to choose from and I've tried all of them
[17:36] <salmon> hey is there a way to make a file to only have access by password??
[17:36] <ExecutiveOrder> your computer may not be capable of booting it then iris
[17:36] <iris> ExecutiveOrder, this laptop doesn't have CDROM built in or Floppy. There's only USB ports.
[17:37] <amh> lsusb looks to recognize my mouse and keyboard - but gnome will not allow me to type or move the mouse.  does anyone know of a solution?
[17:37] <astor-brazil> salmon, its possible using cryptography
[17:37] <iris> ExecutiveOrder, could my laptop be too old?
[17:38] <ExecutiveOrder> maybe iris
[17:38] <salmon> astor-brizil: ok how do i go about that??
[17:38] <ExecutiveOrder> im dont know
[17:38] <paranoid_ndroid> how can I instruct ubuntu to connect to a wireless network? on recovering from standby it always takes a long time connecting by itself
[17:39] <amh> is there anyone that can assist with my keyboard and mouse problem?
[17:39] <sebsebseb> yep maybe
[17:39] <sebsebseb> what are the problems?
[17:39] <chills> can anyone help with the sounds issue ?
[17:39] <chills> it just died
[17:40] <sebsebseb> chills: which one hardy or ibex?
[17:40] <amh> sebsebseb.  upgraded to 8.10 and now my keyboard and mouse do not work in gnome at all.
[17:40] <chills> 8.10
[17:40] <hajar> hi can some one help me , the system is shut down and display a black screen
[17:40] <astor-brazil> salmon, you need generate a gnupg key with the commando ssh-keygen, then you use the gpg command with the option -e to encrypt the archive
[17:40] <amh> sebsebseb: the only thing i can seem to do at the gnome login is ctrl+alt_del
[17:40] <sebsebseb> amh: ok the keyboard settings and I guess mouse as well can be changed
[17:40] <sebsebseb> amh:  oh, but without a working mouse or keyboard that's a point,  not sure how you would do it then
[17:40] <chills> sebsebseb, ibex
[17:41] <sebsebseb> amh: oh maybe you just need to reconfigure xorg  from live cd or recovery mode or something like that
[17:41] <salmon> astor-brazil: ok that sounds a bit above my current skill with this OS lol but thank you anyway
[17:41] <sebsebseb> chills: what kind of sound problems exactly?
[17:41] <ExecutiveOrder> [flv @ 0xb7fad110]Unsupported video codec (7)  Seems stream 0 codec frame rate differs from container frame rate: 1000.00 (1000/1) -> 29.97 (30000/1001)
[17:42] <chills> sebsebseb, http://pastebin.com/m5846130b
[17:42] <chills> it was fine for a few days
[17:42] <brodymcd1> PLEASE HELP audio - I THINK the problem seems to be at every reboot, pulseaudio takes over... I just have silence always since the last couple days...
[17:42] <chills> but now when i restart the pc it gives me the login
[17:42] <chills> sound but after that nothing
[17:42] <ExecutiveOrder> some videos on youtube i download work and others done, what do i need to get the ones that dont work to be able to play
[17:42] <epw> where can i find docs/logs/the cron job for automatic security updates on a CLI system?
[17:42] <heogen> problem with ogle
[17:42] <sebsebseb> brodymcd1:  you can turn pulse audio off and get it to use alsa,  also as a tempory thing to turn off pulseaudio    killall pulseaudio in a terminal
[17:42] <bassliner> have you tried turning it off and on again?
[17:43]  * bassliner runs for cover
[17:43] <heogen> ######+FATAL[ogle_mpeg_ps]: dvdreadblocks failed
[17:43] <heogen> ctrl: ipc_rmid: Invalid argument
[17:43] <heogen> this is the wrong
[17:43] <bobdobolina> ok when i login network manager wants my keyring, how do i make it remember the password
[17:43] <Lucifer> Can anyone help with an Ubuntu boot problem?
[17:43] <astor-brazil> salmon, other way is click with the right botton of mouse in the archive and choose encrytp :)
[17:43] <heogen> help me please is anyone can do it
[17:43] <heogen> to resolve the ogle problem
[17:43] <heogen> ######+FATAL[ogle_mpeg_ps]: dvdreadblocks failed
[17:43] <heogen> ctrl: ipc_rmid: Invalid argument
[17:44] <sebsebseb> chills: sorry can't help you
[17:44]  * Phoenix87 re
[17:44] <Akazawa> hwo do I mount fat32 usb drives as writable?
[17:44] <sebsebseb> Lucifer: maybe what is the boot problem
[17:44] <salmon> astor-brazil: lol that is too easy lol, thank you
[17:44] <brodymcd1> sebsebseb - I have tried killall pulseaudio, but then can't get anything else to come on... so then when I reboot, pulse audio is back.
[17:44] <Lucifer> I installed ubuntu--but GRUB isn't coming up
[17:44] <astor-brazil> salmon, first the complicated way... :)
[17:45] <sebsebseb> brodymcd1: system preferences sound you been in there?
[17:45] <hajar> hi every one system is shut down and display black screen , can any one help me?
[17:45] <Akazawa> how do I mount fat32 usb drives as writable?
[17:45] <ComputerGuru> hajar why
[17:45] <ComputerGuru> when is it black screen
[17:45] <ComputerGuru> if its shutdown there should be a black screen lol
[17:45] <salmon> astor-brazil: so after i have the "chose recipents" menu up whats the next step... noob at this i know
[17:46] <Lucifer> I installed ubuntu--but GRUB isn't coming up. The ubuntu8.10 partition is there (checked w/a livecd), but when I power on my laptop, GRUB doesn't come up, and it boots straight to windows
[17:46] <PurityOfEssence> why is 'manage content plugins' greyed out in firefox / tools ?
[17:46] <ComputerGuru> lucifer
[17:46] <ComputerGuru> did u have vista or xp
[17:46] <ComputerGuru> prior
[17:46] <x_> sup yall
[17:46] <sipior> Lucifer: did you install grub to the disk MBR, or to a partition?
[17:46] <hajar> I dont know it display error and not retrieve any work
[17:47] <astor-brazil> salmon, in the recipients, has you ?
[17:47] <Lucifer> well, I just installed ubuntu 8.10---shouldn't GRUB just be installed after Ubuntu is installed?
[17:47] <bobdobolina> NM wants my keyring password on this computer every time i turn it on
[17:47] <sipior> Lucifer: i would say yes, but seeing as you're having difficulty...
[17:48] <salmon> astor-brazil: well i only have one user on here, the menu is blank... a lot of people use my p.c. and i just want to lock a file
[17:48] <sipior> Lucifer: you might try booting from a live cd, and simply reinstalling grub to the MBR
[17:48] <Lucifer> Well, I haven't tried installing GRUB to anything yet...
[17:48] <Lucifer> ok
[17:49] <ComputerGuru> lucifer where u from
[17:49] <sipior> Lucifer: better
[17:49] <evolve_> Hi guys, I have been attempting to install ubuntu 8.10 on a Dell Inspiron 8200 off of both the desktop and alternate ISO's.  I confirmed that the CD's are working, and the ISO's are valid MD5 wise, however when I attempt to boot them in the machine they do absolutely nothing.  The boot order is setup correctly and just to ensure that I tried SMB and when I use that I get the message "Disk Error! 0x0C"...and suggestions I'm completely at a loss
[17:49] <sipior> Lucifer: ...if we keep chat to this channel
[17:49] <Lucifer> k
[17:49] <astor-brazil> salmon, so, first you need to Application -> Accessories -> Passwords and encryption keys, click on file -> create new
[17:49] <hajar> can any body help me system is shut down and display black screen
[17:49] <sipior> Lucifer: the command you want is "grub-install"
[17:49] <Lucifer> ok
[17:50] <ComputerGuru> evolve send me a pm
[17:50] <paranoid_ndroid> how can I restore grub after having installed windows?
[17:50] <norbert79> Evening
[17:50] <ComputerGuru> paranoid i dont think u can
[17:50] <paranoid_ndroid> ok nvm
[17:50] <ComputerGuru> i believe u have to reinstall in
[17:50] <paranoid_ndroid> yes I can
[17:50] <norbert79> !grub
[17:50] <paranoid_ndroid> yes we can
[17:50] <paranoid_ndroid> thanks guys
[17:50] <norbert79> There you go :)
[17:50] <x_> yes u can paranoid from live cd
[17:51] <x_> on console
[17:51] <paranoid_ndroid> thanks!
[17:51] <astor-brazil> bobdobolina, did you try disable the roamming mode in the wifi on the network manager options?
[17:51] <ComputerGuru> x- thats what i was telling him
[17:51] <salmon> astor-brazil: done, now it gives me the option for two file types,,, which one do i want??
[17:51] <ComputerGuru> u cant just do a restore
[17:51] <ComputerGuru> i have to re-do from a cd or backup
[17:51] <ComputerGuru> you*
[17:51] <Doonz2> I mounted two raid arrays ,they were mounted in /home/server/rs1 and /home/server/rs2. On the desktop the array that was mounted in /home/server/rs1 shows up on the desktop as 2000.4 Gb Media and the one mounted in /home/server/rs2 shows up as rs2 on the desktop Im trying to figure out where that label 2000.4Gb Media came from and howto change it to rs1. Any ideas?
[17:51] <astor-brazil> salmon, anyone, doesnt matter :)
[17:52] <astor-brazil> salmon, sorry
[17:52] <astor-brazil> salmon, chose pgp
[17:52] <sipior> Lucifer: those grub links given above apply to your situation as well, have a look at them if this is your first time with grub.
[17:53] <salmon> astor-brazil: ok but it wants e-mail info will that matter in the long run?
[17:53] <Lucifer> ok
[17:53] <Lucifer> I actually tried those
[17:53] <Draco4King> hey all. anyone wanna help with an install?
[17:53] <Lucifer> but they came up as "Error: file not found"
[17:53] <x_> sup dracko
[17:53] <x_> draco
[17:53] <paranoid_ndroid> shouldn't canonical be selling hardware?
[17:53] <astor-brazil> salmon, yes, is very important provide the email
[17:54] <Draco4King> yo, i'm having lots of trouble reinstalling linux on my external. the graphical install freezs, and i have no idea how to install using the prompt
[17:54] <astor-brazil> salmon, after you do this, you be able to send encrypt email :)
[17:54] <lianimator> paranoid_ndroid: canonical sells some merchandise which includes some hardware.. (USB flash drive, adapters.. recycled mouse)
[17:55] <norbert79> paranoid_ndroid: And Dell sells PC's and laptops with Ubuntu preinstalled...
[17:56] <sebsebseb> paranoid_ndroid:  and smaller not so known companies sell  pre installed Ubuntu to
[17:56] <salmon> astor-brazil: ok so now im a little confused... all i really want to do is make a folder only able to be accesed via password
[17:56] <Draco4King> anyone want to help iwth install problems? mine freezes while loading the partitioner
[17:56] <acp_> !dkms
[17:56] <astor-brazil> salmon, forget the email, the objective is put a password into your file / directory
[17:58] <salmon> astor-brazil: uhhh.... to be honest im really new at this.. where do i go to do this
[17:58] <macondo> Can I be logged to a ssh user in another machine and at the same time, logged locally?
[17:58] <KentonS> Good morning. I'm running Ubuntu 7.10. I just downloaded the latest Security Update du jour, and now the system doesn't recognize my screen and graphics card and puts me in low-graphics mode. I tried going into System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Management and changing things manually, but the changes don't stick. Any idea what went wrong and how to fix it?
[17:58] <sebsebseb> macondo:  probably
[17:58] <astor-brazil> salmon, when you finish this step, just click with the right botton and chose encrypt
[17:58] <astor-brazil> salmon, thats all
[17:58] <salmon> ok
[17:59] <macondo> sebsebseb: for some reason, I can't. I'm logged locally and when I try to login to the remote server, ubuntu just resumes my local session
[17:59] <sebsebseb> macondo:  well I don't know SSH well enough to be able to help you
[17:59] <KentonS> Actually, I tried disabling and re-enabling the nvidia drive in Restricted Drivers Management. It was in Screen and Graphics that I tried changing things.
[18:00] <Draco4King> Can anyone help me with installer problems? I really need to get Ubuntu working on my external for projects due Monday
[18:00] <macondo> logged locally => switch user => select secure remote session => user and password => goes back to the local user instead of asking for the server address
[18:00] <stroyan> filter macondo
[18:00] <sebsebseb> !usb < Draco4king
[18:00] <Draco4King> !usb
[18:00] <sebsebseb> !usb >  Draco4king
[18:00] <Draco4King> thanks, i'll take a look @ that
[18:01] <macondo> stroyan: do you mean /filter?
[18:01] <sebsebseb> np
[18:01] <sebsebseb> no problem
[18:01] <stroyan> macondo: sorry.  that was a typo on my /filter script.
[18:01] <specialisches> hi
[18:02] <sebsebseb> hi
[18:02] <specialisches> Can you speak German
[18:02] <sebsebseb> kruger:  Freddie Kruger ?
[18:02] <sebsebseb> !de
[18:02] <stroyan> macondo: (It is a history filter to see what else is written by you in scrollback.  It is like /grep but continues filter new lines in a busy channel.)
[18:03] <specialisches> hey
[18:03] <specialisches> what's happen?
[18:03] <macondo> stroyan: ah great, is your script freee?
[18:03] <sebsebseb> !de |  specialisches
[18:03] <truthslave> which is the faster.....kubuntu, ubuntu, or xubuntu?
[18:04] <specialisches> SCHWUCHTEL
[18:04] <sebsebseb> truthslave:   well  depends on your hardware
[18:04] <scunizi> truthslave, xubuntu
[18:04] <Seven_Six_Two> truthslave, xubuntu is lightweight
[18:04] <MHz128> xubuntu!
[18:04] <]{53> truthslave: xfce uses less resources.
[18:04] <sebsebseb> truthslave:  Ubuntu and Kubuntu probably run the same speedwise,  and Xubuntu well  is a bit more light waight so  may run better on  older comps, but I know for a fact it runs on a  resoanblly old lap top (not mine :d )  that has 256MB RAM
[18:05] <sebsebseb> truthslave: uh that was Ubuntu
[18:05] <SuperGeek> Is it possible to have a seperate wallpaper for each face of the Compiz cube?
[18:05] <sebsebseb> truthslave:  Xubuntu is like a cut down version of Ubuntu
[18:05] <specialisches> SCHWUCHTEL
[18:05] <KentonS> No ideas on how I can fix my post-update graphics problem? :-(
[18:05] <Pici> specialisches: stop.
[18:05] <ComputerGuru> xubuntu sucks...
[18:05] <]{53> ComputerGuru: ????
[18:05] <ComputerGuru> linuc slackwear = real nerds
[18:05] <hajar> hep me system shut down and display black screen
[18:05] <sebsebseb> xubuntu does not suck,  it's just  Ubuntu :D
[18:05] <Pici> !offtopix
[18:05] <Pici> !offtopic
[18:05] <ComputerGuru> linux*
[18:06] <stroyan> macondo: You can pull it from http://stroyan.net/filter.py
[18:06] <sebsebseb> truthslave: it  depends on stuff like how much RAM your computer has how fast thinsg will be and  stuff like that such as proccessor
[18:06] <kiru> hello
[18:07] <jagiil> hi
[18:07] <truthslave> im running ubuntu and had installed xubuntu on the laptop.... but decided the app suport and user features were better on ubuntu.....comments?
[18:07] <kiru> i have an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro with cxoffice installed and i am trying to play Warcraft III
[18:07] <sebsebseb> truthslave:  yes  I guess a lot of KDE apps and Gnome apps won't really run so well in Xubuntu if at all
[18:07] <jagiil> I got an hp dv5 1135 laptop is it fully compatible winth Ubuntu 8
[18:07] <jagiil> ..10
[18:07] <kiru> but each time when i am trying, the cxoffice window with the game freezes... the other windows are still working
[18:08] <kiru> sound too
[18:08] <sebsebseb> truthslave: where as with Ubuntu you can run most KDE apps, most Xubuntu apps and then  of course the Ubuntu apps
[18:08] <kiru> what is the error?? my old graphic card?
[18:08] <sebsebseb> truthslave:   really they are all Ubuntu in some form or the other, because  they use the same repo
[18:08] <Pici> kiru: cxoffice is not designed to play games, use Wine isntead.
[18:08] <sinan1> is there a way to run a GUI appliation over ssh (using ssh -X), then detach it (the application remains running, but the user can close the ssh connection) ?
[18:08] <norbert79> Pici: Let me add more infomartion on this
[18:09] <ComputerGuru> linux slackware owns all
[18:09] <sebsebseb> truthslave:  also maybe you didn't know, but you can have  Ubuntu,  Kubuntu, and Xubuntu all installed if you want, and then choice which one to run from the log in screen
[18:09] <truthslave> i guess flexability is what made my chose
[18:09] <sinan1> basically like using "screen", but with a GUI.
[18:09] <norbert79> kiru: Query... Check your private messages
[18:09] <sebsebseb> Pici: well there is  Crossover Games
[18:09] <truthslave> how do you run more ?
[18:10] <crekarasu> root@allana-desktop:/dev/shm# rm -rf n
[18:10] <crekarasu> Segmentation fault
[18:10] <crekarasu> help please
[18:10] <sebsebseb> truthslave: by installing them    sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop    sudo aptitude  install  xubuntu-desktop
[18:10] <Pici> ComputerGuru: Please don't do that here, this is a support channel.
[18:11] <sebsebseb> truthslave:  I don't like KDE at all as my GUI (Graphical User Interface) ,but it does have some rather nice apps, which  I run in Gnome/Ubuntu
[18:12] <crekarasu> root@allana-desktop:/dev/shm# rm -rf n
[18:12] <crekarasu> Segmentation fault
[18:12] <sawyer_> hello everyone
[18:12] <sebsebseb> truthslave: oh yeah  when it installs kubuntu  I would suggest you keep GDM,  that's the default Ubuntu log in screen that you should be having now
[18:12] <sinan1> anyone knows how to use xmove?
[18:12] <sawyer_> can anyone spare some time to help me find out why my b43xx wireless driver isn't working out?
[18:12] <punto> hi.. how do I list the options I have to give grub-set-default?
[18:13] <sebsebseb> truthslave: kdm is not as nice by a long way
[18:13] <sawyer_> i've installed the comp freshly and enabled the broadcom b43xx driver, it wireless light goes on but i can't find any networks
[18:13] <Draco4King> anyone know how to do an ubuntu install using terminal??
[18:13] <truthslave> ok
[18:13] <Draco4King> that wasn't quite what i was looking for sebseb, but thanks
[18:13] <sawyer_> iwlist scan gives "no scan results"
[18:13] <Raylz> Draco4King: alternate cd?
[18:13] <crekarasu> root@allana-desktop:/dev/shm# rm -rf n
[18:13] <crekarasu> Segmentation fault
[18:14] <truthslave> thanks... im out for a bit
[18:14] <truthslave> bye
[18:14] <Raylz> b
[18:14] <Draco4King> Raylz: ?
[18:14] <Raylz> Draco4King: what do you mean with terminal installation exactly?
[18:14] <Pici> crekarasu: Why are you trying to delete a device?
[18:14] <Defrysk> punto grub > find /boot/grub/stage1
[18:14] <Raylz> Draco4King: install manually in a shell or without X
[18:14] <Defrysk> if that is what you mean ?
[18:15] <KentonS> I'm running Ubuntu 7.10. I just downloaded the latest Security Update du jour, and now the system doesn't recognize my screen and graphics card and puts me in low-graphics mode. I tried disabling and re-enabling the nvidia drive in System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Management. That didn't help. I tried going into System -> Administration -> Screens and Graphics and changing things manually, but the changes don't stick. Any id
[18:15] <Draco4King> Raylz: the install GUI freezes on me when it loads the partitioner. so i switched the mode to non-graphical safe install
[18:15] <Raylz> Draco4King: try the alternate cd then
[18:15] <ghost3> how can I have pidgin quit showing me joining/leaving messages?
[18:15] <Draco4King> Raylz: didn't know there was one. i'll look into it. thanks
[18:15] <vladtsepesh1984> ﻿anyone who knows a way to sync windows mobile smartphone with evolution???? please help me!!!! i need it!!!!
[18:15] <crekarasu> Pici no device, one program... but first i added a user with root privileges and i installed a program and now want to delete but .. "Segmentation fault"
[18:15] <sebsebseb> KentonS:  ok  either the nivida driver has gone bad on you, or  xorg has
[18:15] <Raylz> Draco4King: youll find it on the download page
[18:15] <brodymcd> could someone please help with an audio question - I'm running ibex 8.10 and all was fine... then 2 days ago, NO SOUND! I think it is a pulseaudio issue
[18:16] <Doonz2> I mounted two raid arrays ,they were mounted in /home/server/rs1 and /home/server/rs2. On the desktop the array that was mounted in /home/server/rs1 shows up on the desktop as 2000.4 Gb Media and the one mounted in /home/server/rs2 shows up as rs2 on the desktop Im trying to figure out where that label 2000.4Gb Media came from and howto change it to rs1. Any ideas?
[18:16] <sebsebseb> ghost3: in the settings for it I expect
[18:16] <scunizi> KentonS, not sure if this will do it ... but sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then make sure that nvidia is the chosen driver..
[18:16] <punto> Defrysk: wouldn't that just overwrite that 'stage1' file?
[18:16] <Pici> crekarasu: Devices are held in /dev not programs
[18:16] <Alien> Hi
[18:16] <crekarasu> Pici i installed a program in /dev
[18:16] <crekarasu> /dev/shm
[18:16] <KentonS> sebsebseb: Yesterday's Security Update actually included a new nvidia driver. After I installed the update, everything worked fine. It's only after today's update that things stopped working.
[18:16] <Alien> i have an very big problem with ubuntu and dmraid
[18:16] <Segaja> is it possible, to determine what kind of processor i have?
[18:17] <Defrysk> punto, grub looks for the /boot/ partition then
[18:17] <Raylz> Segaja: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[18:17] <Alien> my error is this one: Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... no Checking if "/grub/stage1" exists... no
[18:17] <Pici> crekarasu: It won't be there when you reboot, its a tempfs
[18:17] <Draco4King> Raylz: found it and downloading. thanks again
[18:17] <Segaja> Raylz: hm, and how do i get the highest possible cpu freq?
[18:17] <ghost3> brodymcd look at pm
[18:17] <Defrysk> puntu you want to set another os to default in grub ?
[18:18] <ExecutiveOrder> are there any command line video players that can play it inside a urxvt prompt?
[18:18] <Alien> can anyone helps me
[18:18] <Raylz> Segaja: look at model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU         T7200  @ 2.00GHz
[18:18] <norbert79> ExecutiveOrder: mplayer?
[18:18] <King_Bob> hello , just a quick one , does anyone know a fix for my issue , if im using rhythm box and try to view a vid on firefox there is no sound so i have to log out to then log in to view the vid
[18:18] <Segaja> Raylz: model name: Mobile AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3400+
[18:19] <jagiil>  I got an hp dv5 1135 laptop is it fully compatible with Ubuntu 8.10 plz help
[18:19] <sebsebseb> KentonS: maybe this will help you some how  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy#NVidia_Driver
[18:19] <ExecutiveOrder> kind of norbert79 but something that instead of opening a new window it will just play it inside the terminal
[18:19] <Defrysk> jagiil, run the live cd and find out
[18:19] <King_Bob>  jagiil , have you downloaded the live disk for 8:10 and used the live image ?
[18:19] <norbert79> ExecutiveOrder: You can still force on using the CLI decoder... I don't know which output that is, but mplayer can play movies as CLI streams...
[18:20] <Raylz> Segaja: google the model number
[18:20] <jagiil> yes i did
[18:20] <jagiil> ok thx sry bother u
[18:20] <King_Bob> is it working  jagiil?
[18:20] <ExecutiveOrder> oh ok , you cant point me in the right direction to what the output option is called norbert79 ?
[18:20] <jagiil> no idea ill boot it from the live cd
[18:21] <sebsebseb> KentonS: oh our on gutsy not hardy
[18:21] <KentonS> scunizi: What am I looking for in xorg.conf?
[18:21] <King_Bob>  jagiil: , you could try installing it on an external hd if you have one spare , the live cd should give you a good indication though .
[18:21] <sebsebseb> KentonS: oh your on gutsy not hardy why not upgrade to at least hardy?
[18:22] <jagiil> 10x king_Bob
[18:22] <ExecutiveOrder> totem youtube keeps saying no plugin to handle the movie
[18:22] <jagiil> ill do that
[18:22] <ExecutiveOrder> i just followed the install guide
[18:22] <norbert79> ExecutiveOrder: -vo aa
[18:22] <jagiil> can't i make it share the disk with vista???
[18:23] <KentonS> sebsebseb: I want to do that, but at one point my vendor (R-Cubed) raised some yellow flags, and they haven't responded to any of my requests for support in the last month or do. (So much for after-the-sale support! :-( )
[18:23] <King_Bob> partition ? jagil?
[18:23] <ExecutiveOrder> that plays ascii norbert79
[18:23] <rhsanborn> Has anyone installed the PUEL version of virtualbox from the virtualbox website?
[18:23] <sebsebseb> KentonS:  well most  venders still do not take  Desktop Linux  properly seriously, because of lack of market share
[18:23] <rhsanborn> I downloaded it and installed it and I cannot find the binary to start the gui
[18:24] <norbert79> ExecutiveOrder: well, I doubt you will find any player which would not try to pop up a window while playing a movie... Try totem
[18:24] <KentonS> sebsebseb: R-Cubed is in the business - their main business - of selling Linux desktops and laptops. (I bought a Linux laptop from them.)
[18:24] <ne2k__> I've upgraded from 6.06, where I was using it821x driver, to 8.04, which is trying to use the (broken) pata_it821x driver, the consequence being that I can't boot from my RAID1 array. I've currently got RO access to my drive through a 8.10 live disk (RO because the Raid support doesn't work properly on 2.6.27 and I don't want to go writing anything when I'm in JBOD mode)
[18:25] <King_Bob> jagiil , if you new to Ubuntu and are unsure about an install id recommend you duel boot , its how i started until i became confident enough to work my way around , i still use a slave though , Linux is the best move I've ever made and I'm still learning
[18:25] <norbert79> ExecutiveOrder: you can also start totem in CLI, but still it will pop up a window, like every other player
[18:25] <sebsebseb> KentonS:  never herad of  R-Cubed I guess some American company?
[18:25] <ne2k__> I think I must have overwritten something when upgrading. how can I work out how to get 8.04 (2.6.24, I think) to use the it821x driver again? I can't remember how I did it before. /etc/mkinitrd/modules has it821x in it. what else do I need to do?
[18:26] <KentonS> sebsebseb: yup. http://shoprcubed.com.
[18:26] <scunizi> KentonS, a line that says "Driver nvidia"
[18:26] <CaptainMorgan> I got an application that needs to access the Internet on port 80 and it can't connect... originally I thought it was because my server uses that port - so I forwarded the server through a different port in router, say... 805 - it still didn't work... oddly - my virtual machine(winxp), using the same application, was able to connect just fine. any ideas on why it's not able to be used?
[18:26] <norbert79> ne2k__: Check the /etc/modprobe.d for files, and check if it's not listed in the blacklists
[18:26] <scunizi> KentonS, do you have a seperate /home partition?
[18:26] <norbert79> ne2k__: Maybe it's on blacklist at the moment
[18:27] <g33k> how to set static IP [Kubuntu 8.10]
[18:27] <ExecutiveOrder> i followed the directions but i still cant play youtube in totem
[18:27] <lasyrus> where do i apply the compiz themes that I downloaded?
[18:27] <norbert79> ExecutiveOrder: Use totem's menu, upper right part
[18:27] <ExecutiveOrder> i am
[18:27] <gromm> I've managed to hose my screen resolution. Now it only displays in 800x600 on a 22" widescreen monitor. This page doesn't help me: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[18:27] <ExecutiveOrder> it keeps saying i dont have the plugins
[18:27] <norbert79> ExecutiveOrder: And check if Youtube support was enabled
[18:27] <KentonS> scunizi: I see the line in there. In Section "device" #
[18:27] <ExecutiveOrder> it is
[18:28] <scunizi> KentonS, yes..
[18:28] <King_Bob> ExecutiveOrder: VLC ?
[18:28] <nemo> Hey guys, I wanted to try out openoffice 3.0, so I added the repo suggested here:
[18:28] <nemo> http://forums.ubuntu.com.my/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=616
[18:28] <nemo> however, I don't get a prompt to update
[18:28] <norbert79> ExecutiveOrder: Well, Totem asks normally in default if it wants to look for decoders...
[18:28] <nemo> has something changed with the repo it recommends?
[18:28] <Doonz2> I mounted two raid arrays ,they were mounted in /home/server/rs1 and /home/server/rs2. On the desktop the array that was mounted in /home/server/rs1 shows up on the desktop as 2000.4 Gb Media and the one mounted in /home/server/rs2 shows up as rs2 on the desktop Im trying to figure out where that label 2000.4Gb Media came from and howto change it to rs1. Any ideas?
[18:28] <pim> Hello, I' m creating a live USB in Ubuntu now using a live install and LiveUSB, but the process of creating the disk is extremely slow, what could be the problem?
[18:28] <scunizi> ExecutiveOrder, mplayer for me.. totem "skips" when playing back.. mplayer doesn't.. haven't figured out why yet.
[18:28] <lasyrus> where do i apply the compiz themes that I downloaded?
[18:29] <norbert79> pim: Using a 1.1 USB device on a 2.0 bridge or the other way around? :)
[18:29] <ExecutiveOrder> mplayer has a youtube plugin?
[18:29] <norbert79> ExecutiveOrder: Not exactly, but it's capable on playing flv files
[18:29] <ExecutiveOrder> i know that
[18:29] <pim> norbert79 I'm using a 2.0 device on a 2.0 port
[18:29] <radoen> hi
[18:30] <KentonS> scunizi: I have a /home directory, but it's not in a separate partition. (Sorry, I missed your question.)
[18:30] <superkiwi> I was here earlier about my sound on ubuntu has gone away. I remember now that I did change something on the last working boot: I installed emerald, and set emerald --replace in session. I've tried to uncheck it and reboot, but doesn't fix the sound.
[18:30] <norbert79> pim: Make sure it is 2.0 ... check /var/log/messages for USB warnings
[18:30] <norbert79> pim: or start the system log viewer
[18:30] <ExecutiveOrder> i've been going to /tmp and mv Flash* videos to my /home directory and just encoding them with ffmpeg but some videos dont work
[18:30] <radoen> I've rouble whit display brigth on intrepid on an asus laptop
[18:30] <norbert79> radoen: Asus Eee?
[18:31] <n8tuser> Doonz-> here read.  http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html  <-- you have read this?
[18:31] <radoen> no traditional laptop
[18:31] <KentonS> scunizi: I'm considering restoring my previousxorg.conf (xorg.conf.bsckup) Is that a bad idea?
[18:31] <radoen> whit nvdia gefo 8200 video card
[18:31] <norbert79> radoen: Oh, I see... Sorry, I only have an Eee from ASUS
[18:31] <Kornie> So is anyone else having issues with screen tearing while watching HD movies with an HD card?
[18:31] <radoen> acpi module dont work better
[18:31] <Kornie> err nvidia card
[18:31] <xboogerx> is the new mythtv better then the old one
[18:31] <scunizi> KentonS, you should probably work on creating a seperate partition for /home and move your data there.. once that's done you can upgrade by fresh installing directly to the latest version.  7.04 will loose support in the near future.
[18:32] <xboogerx> easier to install?
[18:32] <scunizi> KentonS, if it's there. go for it.. might just do the trick
[18:32] <CaptainMorgan> anybody?
[18:32] <CaptainMorgan> I got an application that needs to access the Internet on port 80 and it can't connect... originally I thought it was because my server uses that port - so I forwarded the server through a different port in router, say... 805 - it still didn't work... oddly - my virtual machine(winxp), using the same application, was able to connect just fine. any ideas on why it's not able to be used?
[18:32] <radoen> I know Kornie
[18:32] <pawalls> jelmer, ping
[18:32] <radoen> nvidia
[18:32] <Doonz2> n8tuser,  yes i did but thatt isnt an issue since nothing is defined in the rules
[18:33] <radoen> I've a lot of problem whit acpi
[18:33] <Kornie> radoen seen any solutions? I've enabled all the vsyncs I can find
[18:33] <King_Bob> can anyone point me in the direction of the command list for IRC ? thanks
[18:33] <Vincent91> Hey, could anyone tell me what manages display before the X Server is started? I would like to edit its config files since it doesn't seem to have the right display mode set by default...
[18:33] <eid_> knbhgv
[18:33] <eid_> jgtft
[18:33] <radoen> don't know solution
[18:33] <ne2k__> norbert79: it's not. obviously it's not been compiled against the new kernel (2.6.24-22-server), so that won't work, but when I boot the old one (2.6.15-29-server), which I guess I compiled myself (it was a long time ago), and which has the driver, it still doesn't work
[18:33] <eid_> hiii
[18:33] <KentonS> scunizi: OK. That's something to consider. Right now, though, I just want to get things working. In the meantime, I'll try using xorg.conf.backup. (After saving the current version, of course. ;-) )
[18:33] <radoen> ive spoke whit the developer of nvclock
[18:33] <Kornie> I've tried using metactiy, but same results
[18:33] <scunizi> CaptainMorgan, just curious.. how many apps/servers can you have on port 80?  I thought one app/server per port
[18:34] <norbert79> ne2k__: apt-get install linux-backport-modules if I can remember well on the name of thepackage
[18:34] <Kornie> Some were blaming it on compiz
[18:34] <ne2k__> norbert79: can I pass something at the kernel command line to force a module to be loaded, and to force one not to be loaded
[18:34] <scunizi> KentonS, you might also install nvidia-settings
[18:34] <radoen> appers that the problem is the shared vram
[18:34] <ne2k__> norbert79: I can't write to this disk, remember
[18:34] <radoen> so I've the 3d acceleration
[18:34] <CaptainMorgan> scunizi, not sure what you're asking... note that I changed the port - so I expect that only one per port
[18:34] <radoen> compiz work
[18:34] <ne2k__> norbert79: at least, I'd really rather not
[18:34] <Kornie> Also if I play the movie in virtualbox with XP and it plays without the tearing
[18:34] <usr13> A friend of mine just called and somehow she has set display settings that are not compatable for her monitor.  How can I tell her to set it via CLI?
[18:34] <norbert79> ne2k__: Well, that sucks... I would rather say you should use the earlier kernel then
[18:34] <usr13> Ctrl-ALt-F1  ....... ????
[18:34] <radoen> but the problem is the bright of the LCD
[18:35] <KentonS> scunizi: nvidia-settings? Is that something I install or a backup I should use?
[18:35] <ne2k__> norbert79: yes, that's fine. I'm happy to. but it seems to have broken that too. can I pass something on the command line to force it to load a module, and to stop it loading another module?
[18:35] <Kornie> I do use Twinview, only ting I can figure is if its syncing to the wrong monitor
[18:35] <pawalls> usr13, If she boots into "failsafe" mode from grub, there should be an option for "xfix" she can choose that should set her X to some sane defaults.
[18:35] <scunizi> CaptainMorgan, you mentioned that your vm was also on the same port.. just sounded like there were more than one thing on the port
[18:35] <InfectedWithDrew> While playing various games, including Warcraft III in Wine and Teeworlds (native), I tend to lose focus on the game (like, right-clicking will sometimes show part of the desktop) and then my game crashes and I have to ctrl-alt-bksp.  Anything I can do to prevent that?
[18:35] <CaptainMorgan> scunizi, note that the vm was an 'after' test
[18:36] <CaptainMorgan> which I should've explained
[18:36] <scunizi> KentonS, I'm not sure if it's available in 7.04 but it helps setup nvidia cards.. sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[18:36] <norbert79> ne2k__: If it's in /etc/modules, one other entry might overriding your entry... Without write access you can just manually load up the module all the time, which is not a solution. Get write access!
[18:36] <Rolcol> A friend of mine messed up his permissions by recursively setting everything in his root directory to 777.  Is there a way to get back the basic default permissions for the usual folders?
[18:36] <pawalls> usr13, If you want her to fix her X manually from the command line.. you can either have her run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and follow the prompts, or manually edit her xorg.conf
[18:36] <scunizi> CaptainMorgan, ah.. sorry for the confusion
[18:36] <KentonS> scunizi: FWIW, I'm running 7.10
[18:36] <ne2k__> norbert79: hmmm. this is difficult
[18:36] <scunizi> KentonS, oh. ok.. well.... same issues.
[18:37] <zicho> when i run e"nv | grep dbus" i get no output, but when i run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus start" it says that dbus is already running... how come?
[18:37] <ne2k__> norbert79: I would at least like to work out why it's not working on the old kernel
[18:37] <norbert79> ne2k__: How did you do the update, if you don't even have admin rights?
[18:37] <imc_> Just installed 8.10 on MacBook Pro and it can't boot - it's alone, not using bootcamp - did I miss a step?
[18:37] <ne2k__> norbert79: I DID have root access, before this update killed my RAID support
[18:37] <nemo> has anyone here successfully setup openoffice in intrepid?
[18:37] <nemo> 3.0 I mean?
[18:37] <Kornie> hmmm thats interesting
[18:37] <Kornie> I think its syncing to the wrong monitor :/
[18:37] <ne2k__> norbert79: I am now accessing it in JBOD mode through the passthrough mode of the driver from an intrepid live disk
[18:37] <KentonS> scunizi: OK. After I restore xorg.conf.backup and reboot I'll check out nvidia-settings. Thanks!
[18:38] <scunizi> KentonS, sure
[18:38] <InfectedWithDrew> Repeating my problem.  While playing games, I randomly lose focus on the game and it crashes.  How come?
[18:38] <imc_> anyone with ubuntu/MacBook experience?
[18:39] <rww> imc_: I have a little. What's your problem?
[18:39] <norbert79> ne2k__: I see... Well, I have enevr been confronted with a similar situation... As I have said, boot up with your older kernel, check /etc/modprobe, and install the backport modules for the newer kernel
[18:39] <imc_> rww, hey, I just wiped OSX and installed 8.10 but I cannot boot into Ubuntu
[18:39] <CaptainMorgan> scunizi, np, thanks anyways
[18:39] <norbert79> ne2k__: /etc/modprobe.d/
[18:40] <ne2k__> norbert79: it doesn't work with the older kernel either!
[18:40] <rww> imc_: What happens when you try? Do you get a black folder icon on a grey/white background with a ? in it?
[18:40] <ne2k__> norbert79: this is my problem
[18:40] <imc_> Yep
[18:40] <imc_> @
[18:40] <Dillizar> i have problem with my skype i cant set the sound device
[18:40] <ne2k__> norbert79: I will try it again and see what happens
[18:40] <InfectedWithDrew> Repeating my problem.  Games crash when they lose focus, how can I prevent losing focus?
[18:40] <imc_> sorry, nww, yes that's what I see
[18:40] <norbert79> ne2k__: First get a working system with RAID support... Otherwise I have told you: check the modprobe.d directory, it might be that some modules got to the blacklist
[18:41] <rww> imc_: hold down the Option key when the screen first turns on. You should get to a screen with a picture of a hard drive on it with an inaccurate caption (probably "Windows"). Press enter and see if you can boot okay.
[18:41] <imc_> Ahh, thanks, will try that now
[18:41] <norbert79> ne2k__: the problem is, that whatever I am telling you, you seem just getting stuck at understanding what went wrong, but you fail on giving more infmroation to me, where I fail to help you
[18:42] <brodymcd> could someone PLEASE help me - I have lost all sound in ibex 8.10 - had it, now it is gone... any help PLEASE?!?!
[18:42] <norbert79> lol
[18:42] <norbert79> and he left
[18:42] <imc_> rww, bummer, I do that and I gert a blank screen with a mouse pointer but no possibility to boot into...anything
[18:42] <vladtsepesh1984> ﻿anyone who knows a way to sync windows mobile smartphone with evolution???? please help me!!!! i need it!!!!
[18:42] <norbert79> vladtsepesh1984: Less !!
[18:42] <norbert79> vladtsepesh1984: Thank you
[18:43] <norbert79> ne2k__: check /var/log/apt's logs on packages
[18:43] <norbert79> ne2k__: See which packages have been updated
[18:43] <mannytu> !windows
[18:43] <norbert79> mannytu: He was asking on syncing a Windows mobile with evolution... Not vica versa
[18:43] <vladtsepesh1984> ﻿norbert79:scuseme, i don't know why i can try to ask for my problem....i ask every 20 minutes
[18:44] <rww> imc_: hmm, that's odd. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook#Basic%20instructions says: "(If the boot menu does not "see" your freshly installed Ubuntu; burn rEFIt on a CD, boot from it and resync the MBR with GPT due to “Partitioning Tool”.) " and links to http://refit.sourceforge.net/doc/c1s5_burning.html . You could try that.
[18:44] <SpriteSODA> hi guys, i need help with installing gspca
[18:44] <norbert79> vladtsepesh1984: Like so does hundreds of other people around here...
[18:44] <imc_> rww, thanks Much, will try that now
[18:44] <norbert79> vladtsepesh1984: And as it seems, there are 5 guys who give suppooirt, and 95 asking
[18:44] <mannytu> norbert79: they might know...
[18:44] <ghost3> it seems that way
[18:44] <norbert79> mannytu: I doubt they would even consider giving support...
[18:44] <Daremonai> hello, how can I customize ubuntu's remote desktop so when i open vnc from laptop i see it in a special resolution?
[18:45] <rww> imc_: You might also read through that help.ubuntu.com link and consider redoing the installation their way. Depends on how much time you have to spend ;-)
[18:45] <Dillizar> i have problem with my skype i cant set the sound device
[18:45] <mannytu> norbert79: does not hurt ask...
[18:45] <norbert79> vladtsepesh1984: Btw, did you check volume settings, or pulseaudio running, etc etc?
[18:46] <InfectedWithDrew> Repeating my problem (fifth time's the charm...).  While playing games, the game window will lose focus and I will start interacting with the desktop instead, crashing the game.  How do I prevent this?
[18:46] <SpriteSODA> guys? anyone can help me?
[18:46] <norbert79> vladtsepesh1984: Ah, yes, sorry, wrong person
[18:46] <scunizi> InfectedWithDrew, I'll take a shot.. just one though.. turn off compiz and desktop effects if they are on.
[18:47] <InfectedWithDrew> scunizi, I will try, and if you see me quit this room without any other words, then it didn't work.
[18:47] <norbert79> scunizi: Well, that might work for him, except for OpenGL based stuff, as it seems you are unable on running OpenGL stuff while having Compiz off...
[18:47] <rww> InfectedWithDrew: I was about to say what scunizi said. In addition, maybe there's a GNOME shortcut you're pressing that's causing that problem. If disabling Compiz doesn't work, check for that.
[18:48] <ne2k__> norbert79: I've now got it booting on the old kernel, by changing the root= parameter, which was wrong (don't know why it had changed!) it's doing an fsck (very slowly)
[18:48] <scunizi> InfectedWithDrew, I have join, quit, part messages turned off.. too much noise..
[18:48] <radoen> I cant paly dvd movis but i've css lib why?
[18:48] <zicho> when i run e"nv | grep dbus" i get no output, but when i run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus start" it says that dbus is already running... cant anyone help?
[18:48] <ne2k__> norbert79: I think I just need to recompile the it821x driver against the new kernel
[18:48] <rww> scunizi: I'll tell you if InfectedWithDrew leaves then :P
[18:48] <norbert79> ne2k__: Becuase you haven't changed the right line, but changed boot options for a kernel, and not used the 'defaults' line
[18:48] <InfectedWithDrew> rww, checked my shortcuts.  I'm definitely not hitting anything that would do that.
[18:48] <scunizi> norbert79, true.. but you can put the setting on "normal" which I believe is glx and not full blown compiz
[18:49] <norbert79> ne2k__: apt-get install linux-backport-modules... give that a try
[18:49] <rww> InfectedWithDrew: k. I'm gonna agree with the Compiz idea, then
[18:49] <InfectedWithDrew> Now, I am trying to play without any desktop effects.   Wish me luck.
[18:49] <rww> InfectedWithDrew: good luck :)
[18:49] <ne2k__> norbert79: you know that it821x is not a ubuntu module? what will this do?
[18:49] <lodder> need help setting up the network interfaces, got 2 nic's configure bot only eth1 is showing in ifconfig it's a xen server
[18:49] <scunizi> InfectedWithDrew, which game
[18:49] <norbert79> scunizi: It's still compiz tough... I would rather find a way on loading GLX support... I really hate this new way on modifying the xorg.conf automatically...
[18:49] <norbert79> ne2k__: http://packages.ubuntu.com ... See it for yourself!+
[18:50] <scunizi> norbert79, yea.. I just got use to editing xorg.conf and now have to learn xRandr..  arg
[18:50] <radoen> I cant paly dvd movis but i've css lib why?
[18:50] <gigel2006> HELP ME PLEASE, I tried everything on the wiki page with ndiswrapper, and I try to load several Windows drivers on the Alfa 500mw cd and the card still doesn't appear in iwconfig. ndiswrapper -l says device present and driver loaded.
[18:50] <norbert79> radoen: Get to medibuntu.org first, set the repository. Install every necessary package, remove totem-gstreamer, and install totem-xine
[18:51] <rww> radoen: did you do the second line of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#Ubuntu%208.10%20(i386) ?
[18:51] <ne2k__> norbert79: well, backport modules are going to be modules for a later release which are backported to work on an earlier release. why would this help me?
[18:51] <norbert79> ne2k__: Because maybe your module is included, thats why... Doesn't hurt trying, right?
[18:51] <ne2k__> norbert79: it's definitely not included.
[18:51] <norbert79> ne2k__: Good luck on compiling then!
[18:51] <ne2k__> norbert79: it's a proprietary module
[18:52] <radoen> Iìve just libdvdread3
[18:52] <radoen> and i've already run the script
[18:52] <Guest34521> HELP ME PLEASE, I tried everything on the wiki page with ndiswrapper, and I try to load several Windows drivers on the Alfa 500mw cd and the card still doesn't appear in iwconfig. ndiswrapper -l says device present and driver loaded.
[18:52] <radoen> and use vlc or mpleyr but dont work
[18:52] <Shark_7-11> Hi All, Looking for a Torrent util that has a good GUI and works
[18:52] <flyback> question
[18:52] <norbert79> radoen: Totem has no DVD support builét in... You will need totem-xine if you prefer Totem, or install VLC
[18:52] <ne2k__> norbert79: I must have compiled the 2.6.15-29 that's on there before, but I can't find the source. if I had downloaded the source, patched it, and compiled it the ubuntu way, where would the source be? I've looked in /usr/src and there's nothing there
[18:52] <oskar-> radoen, have you tried totem?
[18:52] <flyback> if I just fdisked and formatted a hd off a live ubuntu cd
[18:52] <radoen> yes
[18:52] <Raylz> Shark_7-11: azureus
[18:52] <radoen> dont work
[18:53] <flyback> how do I add that partition to the filesystems mounted tool
[18:53] <Shark_7-11> tx   that is java based?
[18:53] <norbert79> ne2k__: Well, enable source repos, and apt-get install kernel-source
[18:53] <flyback> so it's ready to go with the right permissions etc
[18:53] <Raylz> Shark_7-11: yes
[18:53] <radoen> norbert79,  dont work whit vlc
[18:53] <Shark_7-11> Raylz: Tx
[18:53] <rww> Shark_7-11: Transmission is okay. If you don't like that, try deluge-torrent or vuze (which is azureus by another name). "good GUI" is subjective ;-)
[18:53] <Raylz> Shark_7-11: if you dont like java, try ktorrent (kde) or deluge(gnome)
[18:53] <scunizi> !mount | flyback
[18:53] <flyback> mount doesn't seem to work
[18:53] <flyback> can only do it as root and then nothing on the desktop has permission
[18:53] <Shark_7-11> Rww & Raylz : Tx
[18:53] <flyback> the whole permissions system has changed a good bit since the few yrs I been away from linux
[18:54] <rww> !torrent | Shark_7-11: the full list
[18:54] <scunizi> flyback, check the links.. it describes how to edit your fstab to include the new partition..
[18:54] <flyback> ok then I jus need a fstab entry?
[18:54] <flyback> I can do that :P
[18:54] <flyback> thx
[18:54] <flyback> I just wondered if there was an easy way
[18:55] <flyback> like when you enter a flash drive
[18:55] <flyback> it comes up in /media/whatever
[18:55] <LjL> !enter | flyback
[18:55] <quentusrex> Has anyone seen any info on getting VirtualBox to work with Intrepid with host interface???
[18:55] <Shark_7-11> nice tx guys...
[18:55] <scunizi> flyback, yea.. make a mount point in /media for it and then sudo mount /dev/<device> /media/<directory>
[18:56] <LjL> !away > sevenseeker|away    (sevenseeker|away, see the private message from ubottu)
[18:56] <nicodarious> anyone have any clue about using a VIA VT6421 RAID card?  been working with this, but the software fails with errors when installing.
[18:56] <dudeman> hi all, anyone here from the ubuntu web site, or brainstorm web site?
[18:56] <LjL> dudeman: ask in #ubuntu-website
[18:56] <superkiwi> I get a: "pulseaudio[5967]: module-x11-xsmp.c: X11 session manager not running." in syslog. What does it mean and might it be related to me suddenly having no audio?
[18:56] <nicodarious> keeps giving me errors when installing the drivers for the card.
[18:56] <flyback> I did that before and I got permission errors
[18:56] <dudeman> I signed up for ubuntu brainstorm and it's been over 3 days but I still haven't recieved a reply from them about membership
[18:57] <dudeman> ah ok thanks
[18:57] <radoen> now work
[18:57] <flyback> yeah
[18:57] <flyback> same shit again
[18:57] <radoen> ...ubuntus mystery
[18:57] <LjL> !language | flyback
[18:57] <rww> dudeman: if #ubuntu-website doesn't help, try #ubuntu-brainstorm
[18:58] <nicodarious> anyone know where the linux-image in ubuntu 8.10 is hiding?  i can't find it in the usual /usr/src/ folder
[18:58] <rww> dudeman: I have no idea if they can help, but the channel name sounds promising :P
[18:58] <scunizi> flyback, just add the fstab line then
[18:58] <Guest34521> HELP ME PLEASE, I tried everything on the wiki page with ndiswrapper, and I try to load several Windows drivers on the Alfa 500mw cd and the card still doesn't appear in iwconfig. ndiswrapper -l says device present and driver loaded. HELP
[18:58] <Raylz> nicodarious: theres no src package indeed
[18:58] <Raylz> nicodarious: dont ask me why
[18:59] <oskar-> flyback, what error messages do you get with what command?
[18:59] <ne2k__> norbert79: hmmm, it appears that it was at one time in the main kernel, and that I didn't compile it myself
[18:59] <nicodarious> Raylz, so that means that when i need to compile a source code program and it can't find the src package, i'm pretty much SOL?  that really sucks...
[18:59] <TokenBad> ok...I have a fresh install of 8.10 I have had to reinstall like 8 times cause everytime I try to use the hardware manager to install the nvidia graphics drivers it crashes when I reboot and I can't get X to load..is there another way to load the graphics?
[18:59] <flyback> if I mount the parititon in a command line
[18:59] <InfectedWithDrew> Nope, still does it
[18:59] <flyback> nothing on the desktop can use it
[18:59] <flyback> permission denied
[18:59] <LjL> nicodarious: linux-image is very much an exception
[18:59] <LjL> !kernel > nicodarious    (nicodarious, see the private message from ubottu)
[18:59] <InfectedWithDrew> It just randomly minimized this time... the game is still running but I can't tab back in.
[19:00] <sevenseeker|away> LjL: apologies, that is a new one for me but understandable.
[19:00] <nicodarious> LjL, thanks.  i will
[19:00] <Raylz> nicodarious: if your doing more stuff concerning kernel i recommend you switch to an other distro
[19:00] <oskar-> flyback, what type does the file system on the partition have?
[19:00] <flyback> ext3
[19:00] <nicodarious> LjL, that doesn't really answer anything, but thanks anyway!
[19:00] <ne2k__> norbert79: it appears that 2.6.19-4 is the latest kernel that had that version of the module, in 2.6.20 it was moved to the pata one, which is broken
[19:00] <InfectedWithDrew> Well, now I'm really enjoying my 640x480 resolution.  Letters are so big now!  *sigh*, looks like something in Intrepid messes with OpenGL or GNOME or something...
[19:01] <oskar-> flyback, ok, have you given the users the rights to access, read and write files in that fs?
[19:01] <LjL> nicodarious: then i suppose i haven't understood the question. you were complaining that linux-image has no source package, right?
[19:01] <norbert79> Sorry guys, have to rush, bye
[19:01] <nicodarious> Raylz, well, seeing that it's just a driver for my RAID card, i didn't think it was oign to be THAT big of a deal.  it's a VIA VT6421 chip.  reall easy, usually
[19:01] <flyback> oskar-, actually only 1 user
[19:01] <flyback> this is a livecd
[19:01] <nicodarious> LjL, actually, i was wondering where the linux-image is hiding, since it's not in the /usr/src/ directory.
[19:02] <flyback> downloading some linux iso's to install later
[19:02] <ne2k__> will it cause a problem to run hardy 8.04 on a 2.6.19 kernel?
[19:02] <bakarat> ok lads, is there ANY reason why eclipse stays at version 3.2 in the repo? :|
[19:02] <Sierradump> So I just switched to linux (Ubuntu 8.10) and  I need some applications...  What do I burn CD/DVD with???
[19:02] <bakarat> it's been like that since i first started using ubuntu i think
[19:02] <Raylz> !kernel
[19:02] <emendo> I have been trying to get cinelerra installed but synaptic keeps spitting out the same garbage that some packages are not installable, why? How do I fix it? An example is "libquicktimehv: Depends: liblame0 (>=3.97) but it is not installable"
[19:02] <Sierradump> Or whats the best CD/DVD burning application?
[19:02] <nicodarious> LjL, i installed it fia apt-get for the linux-image-2.6.27-10-server, but it's not in the /usr/src/ directory
[19:02] <Guest34521> i've been trying to fx my problem for 2 days, no one in Ubuntu is helping me, WHY ?
[19:02] <scunizi> Sierradump, k3b
[19:02] <ChrisBookwood> Is it common known that gnome/compiz doesn't remember my window positions, and how do i fix it if possible?
[19:02] <Sierradump> Does that work in Gnome?
[19:02] <LjL> nicodarious: why would it be in /usr/src...? linux-image is a *binary* package, with nothing to do with any source. it's your kernel, and you'll find where it is by doing "dpkg -L linux-image-$(uname -r)"  (short answer: it's in /boot/)
[19:02] <ne2k__> Raylz: is that for me?
[19:02] <scunizi> Sierradump, yep
[19:03] <oskar-> flyback, ok, but the live cd has the user "ubuntu", i think, and root. so you must use roots power to give permissions also to the live session user  "ubuntu"
[19:03] <Raylz> ne2k__: nah i was just curious
[19:03] <ne2k__> Raylz: ok
[19:03] <ne2k__> Raylz: only, it's not much help ;-)
[19:03] <Sierradump> scunizi - can I just do a apt-get install k3b?
[19:03] <flyback> nm
[19:03] <scunizi> Sierradump, yep
[19:03] <flyback> I fixed it
[19:03] <Sierradump> Cool!
[19:03] <flyback> thx though
[19:03] <oskar-> flyback, ok ;)
[19:03] <nicodarious> LjL, ok, i misunderstood then...  I'm trying to find the image file for the kernel so this source code that i am trying to install will stop throwing up errors.
[19:03] <Raylz> ne2k__: if you dont use the restricted modules it will be fine i guess
[19:03] <Sierradump> scunizi:  What about playing music and videos?   I used mediaplayer on my XP machine, sometimes winamp... What do I want for linux?
[19:04] <LjL> nicodarious, uhm, somehow i doubt that some source code would need the linux *image* to stop throwing up errors, honestly. but anyway, it's /boot/vmlinuz*
[19:04] <nicodarious> LjL, i have also installed the headers for the same kernel version and soft-linked 'linux' to the linux-headers-2.6.27-10-server.
[19:04] <Raylz> ne2k__: or proprietary
[19:04] <ne2k__> Raylz: shouldn't need to use restricted. it's just so I can get the old version of it821x (not the new pata_821x which is broken)
[19:04] <radoen> I've another problem, the notebook dont complete the shutdown procedure
[19:04] <scunizi> Sierradump, there are lots of apps. one that's built in is Rhythmbox and works well.. There's also audacious, amarok.. and many many others..
[19:04] <emendo> Is anyone familiar with synaptic and willing to help me?
[19:05] <Raylz> ne2k__: debian stable uses 2.6.18
[19:05] <radoen> all the ubuntu bar cames to black but the laptop is always on
[19:05] <ghost3> My system is locking up..i tried to run firefox and my panels went missing..i can't alt-f2 to open a run term. my hd light is not working as if its not reading it and everything is going verrry slow...the only reason im on here is casue it was already open...help..
[19:05] <nicodarious> LjL, maybe it's me getting my names confused.  the kernel source code maybe?  in other distros it was called the image where the source code was hanging out... at least it was years ago with Mandrake.
[19:05] <scunizi> emendo, ask your question.. most everyone here has used synaptic
[19:05] <rww> emendo: quite a few of us are. Ask your question, and if someone knows the answer, they'll speak up :)
[19:05] <Sierradump> scunizi:  is there a "best" one?  when I went to steam .m3u playlist it tried to open in video player??? Is that normal?
[19:05] <Raylz> ne2k__: maybe you can fetch the package from their server
[19:05] <ne2k__> Raylz: I might just stick with the 2.6.15 that I have, because it seems to have been working fine for ages
[19:05] <ne2k__> Raylz: I'd rather not mish mash repos
[19:05] <LjL> nicodarious, no, linux-image is the *binary* image. it's the stuff that actually boots and runs your computer, therefore it's mainly in /boot. linux-source is the kernel sourcecode.
[19:06] <emendo> Well, how do I install an "uninstallable" package?
[19:06] <g33k> If i change ip to static IP on 1 commputer does it affect to another computers in Local Area Network ??
[19:06] <Raylz> emendo: which package?
[19:06] <oskar-> ghost3, your only open window is that of the chat app?
[19:06] <LjL> g33k: no, if you inform the DHCP server appropriately
[19:06] <scunizi> Sierradump, streaming is a different animal.. there are different streaming packages.. some video packages will stream as well because they also play audio.. a popular one is vlc which does audio and video.. but asking what is best is really up to the user.
[19:06] <plutarcus> hi all
[19:07] <nicodarious> LjL, man i feel like such an idiot now!  i just found it via apt as soon as you said it!  go ahead and whack me a good one!
[19:07] <emendo> Raylz: I tried installing cinelerra and some of its dependencies can not be installed. I do not know why.
[19:07] <oskar-> ghost3, if so, maybe resetting you x session and logging in again helps: ctrl+alt+backspace
[19:07] <plutarcus> i've a problem with ati drivers..i tried to install it with the hardware manager but it says me "not in use"
[19:07] <ghost3> oskar-: I can see my desktop and icons...if I try to open anything..nothing
[19:07] <Raylz> emendo: try to install it via apt-get and paste the output
[19:07] <scunizi> emendo, that's pretty vague.. is the package in the repo's? and if so what happens when you use synaptic to install?
[19:07] <nicodarious> LjL, years of working with Linux and i get a brain fart over that!  damn i can be stoopid :P
[19:07] <emendo> Example:libquicktimehv:  Depends: liblame0 (>=3.97) but it is not installable
[19:07] <LjL> emendo: probably because you used a package made for a different version of Uubuntu.
[19:08] <LjL> !info liblame0
[19:08] <emendo> ubottu: what do I do to fix it?
[19:08] <ne2k__> g33k: if you administer the dhcp server, it's generally better to use a static lease rather than configure machines to have static ip. depends on what you're trying to achieve, though
[19:08] <LjL> emendo: you find a package of Cinelerra that's made for Intrepid and not for Hardy.
[19:08] <Jimi__Hendrix> hey what partition manager is in kubuntu
[19:08] <ted_> need to change evolution password.  How do I get to it?
[19:08] <Raylz> Jimi__Hendrix: qparted and fdisk
[19:08] <fosco__> Jimi__Hendrix, qtparted
[19:09] <LjL> !cinelerra | emendo
[19:09] <emendo> Let me search for one. I will return shortly.
[19:09] <Jimi__Hendrix> thanks
[19:09] <LjL> emendo: there is one at the link i just gave
[19:09] <g33k> is there any graphical guide how to set static IP on kubuntu 8.10 graphical way?
[19:09] <Sierradump> scunizi:  so if I want to get VLC do I have to uninstall "video player"
[19:09] <emendo> I just now saw that.
[19:09] <Raylz> g33k: ofc
[19:09] <ghost3> oskar- this is the second time this has happened in an hour.. I tried reseting the x server and it never cam up..with no choice I alt+f3 and logged in..but after I tried sudo reboot..the system hung up after entering my password..could that be cecause it can't read the harddrive? it don't look like its tring to..no blinking at all
[19:10] <Raylz> g33k: system -> administration -> network
[19:10] <Jimi__Hendrix> thanks all
[19:10] <Raylz> g33k: very easy, you wont need a guide
[19:11] <MHz128> what is the difference between i686 and i386?
[19:11] <scunizi> Sierradump, nope.. you can have multiple apps of any variety installed at the same time.  "video player" is actually called totem I believe..
[19:11] <ghost3> ioskar- I tried to pm you but there is no tab there like there should be..???
[19:11] <whoop> g33k: I have been messing around for a long time getting static ip to work under ubuntu 8.10, I use gnome btw.
[19:11] <Jimi__Hendrix> also mind if i ask a general computer question
[19:11] <ne2k__> MHz128: more advanced instruction set
[19:11] <rww> MHz128: they're two different families of processor. Most modern systems are compatible with both.
[19:11] <oskar-> ghost3, a unreadable or -reachable harddrive  would be a good explanation. perhaps monitor it, if you watch dmesg and syslog
[19:11] <scunizi> ghost3, have you registed your nick?  no registration.. no PM
[19:11] <whoop> g33k: maybe this guide will help you anyway: http://linhost.info/2008/11/how-to-set-a-static-ip-on-ubuntu-810/
[19:11] <nicodarious> MHz128, i386 has parts that help with older computers while i686 is set up for only newer computers
[19:12] <g33k> whoop I'll try tnx
[19:12] <Jimi__Hendrix> can you use a swap partition for multiple OS's if your dual booting
[19:12] <ne2k__> this fsck is taking an absolute and utter age
[19:12] <rww> Jimi__Hendrix: yes
[19:12] <ghost3> scunizi never registered and have always pm'em without a problem
[19:12] <MHz128> cool! thanks for help!
[19:12] <emendo> It is downloading right now. I hope it works. Thank you for your help.
[19:12] <nicodarious> MHz128, if you have a newer computer (usually about 5 yrs or newer) go with i686 if you have a choice.
[19:12] <scunizi> ghost3, in this channel?
[19:12] <whoop> g33k: the second method worked for me. but as an extra note be sure to add dns server entries. Cause it did not work for me without this.
[19:12] <Jimi__Hendrix> ok cool
[19:12] <ghost3> funny...just lost sound.
[19:12] <Guest34521> HELP ME PLEASE, I tried everything on the wiki page with ndiswrapper, and I try to load several Windows drivers on the Alfa 500mw cd and the card still doesn't appear in iwconfig. ndiswrapper -l says device present and driver loaded.
[19:12] <ne2k__> ghost3: BANG
[19:13] <rww> ghost3: Freenode keeps changing the setting that determines whether non-registered users can PM or not :(
[19:13] <ne2k__> ghost3: didn't you hear that?
[19:13] <ghost3> nothing but I see it
[19:13] <j0nr> hey guys
[19:13] <j0nr> just upgraded to intrepid.... now my wireless doesn't work
[19:13] <zicho> when i run e"nv | grep dbus" i get no output, but when i run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus start" it says that dbus is already running... can anyone help?
[19:13] <j0nr> can anyone help?
[19:13] <Sierradump> scunizi:  sorry if I sound like I don't know what I am doing -- but I don't! haha --- I tried to stream some music, it opened in video player, said it didn't have the codec and asked if I wanted to search - i said yes and to my surprise it actually found 2 packages that it said it needed - is it okay to install those packages or will it possibly conflict with other programs? I guess I don't know if i download those packages,
[19:13] <Sierradump> will it use those instead of possibly better ones that may come with other programs???
[19:13] <ghost3> at least im still on line...this is weired
[19:13] <Lokian> j0nr, need a little more detail than that
[19:13] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[19:14] <Hikefu> Sierradump, you can install them
[19:14] <scunizi> Sierradump, go ahead and intstall them.. they won't interfear..
[19:14] <j0nr> Lokian: not sure what else to say? ... the restricted driver for the wireless is installed...but there are no wireless networks showing up
[19:14] <Tetracomm> Do you know if there is linux software available for Canon digital cameras?
[19:14] <Lokian> j0nr what is your wifi card
[19:14] <Sierradump> Hikefu / Scunizi:  thanks!  Going to download them now!
[19:14] <ne2k__> Tetracomm: what do you want to do with it?
[19:14] <scunizi> Tetracomm, you mean to pull the images off the camera?
[19:14] <j0nr> Lokian: Broadcom.. worked fine on hardy
[19:15] <Lokian> j0nr what model
[19:15] <ghost3> Im going to try and reset. :-( brb...i hope,
[19:15] <ne2k__> Tetracomm: if that's what you want to do, just plug it in and see what happens. many are supported
[19:15] <j0nr> Lokian: ummm not sure...
[19:15] <j0nr> Lokian: how can i find out
[19:15] <scunizi> Sierradump, no reboot needed afterward
[19:15] <rww> j0nr: run lspci from a terminal, copypaste the output to paste.ubuntu.com, link it here
[19:16] <j0nr> BCM5705M
[19:16] <Tetracomm> DOes anyone in here use a Canon digital camera with Ubuntu?
[19:16] <j0nr> oh no sorry
[19:16] <j0nr> thats the ethernet
[19:16] <xcode> HI
[19:16] <j0nr> BCM4309
[19:16] <xcode> i need some help here please
[19:16] <scunizi> Tetracomm, what do you want to do? download images?
[19:16] <Lokian> ok
[19:17] <rww> !ask | xcode
[19:17] <Tetracomm> scunizi: Yes.
[19:17] <oskar-> Tetracomm, yes, it has always been recognized automatically
[19:17] <Lokian> j0nr check out http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[19:17] <Tetracomm> oskar-: Can you copy images off it easily?
[19:17] <Lokian> j0nr how did you set it up before in hardy did you use ndiswrapper
[19:17] <xcode> i have ubuntu 7.04  and i need to make java work on it
[19:17] <Acedip>  /join #lugj
[19:17] <scunizi> Tetracomm, have you tried just plugging it into the usb port ?  Ubuntu will typically pickup the fact that it's a camera and load fSpot to import images
[19:18] <Lu6cifer_> Can anyone help with some GRUB problems?
[19:18] <xcode> and it dowsnt download the java docs
[19:18] <Sunbow> hi, anyone knows how to start the pc with ubuntu 8.04, on an ati 4670 graphic card ?
[19:18] <xcode> i dont know why
[19:18] <Tetracomm> No, I am thinking about buying a Canon.
[19:18] <j0nr> Lokian: hmm think i just enabled the restricted driver and it worked
[19:18] <xcode> its not working prperly
[19:18] <rww> Lu6cifer_: just state the problem and if someone knows what's wrong, they'll tell you :)
[19:18] <xcode> iam still a beginner
[19:18] <j0nr> Lokian: cant quite remember, it was a long time ago... could have downloaded something tho
[19:18] <oskar-> Tetracomm, yes, it works, although the old program about a year ago worked even better than the new one
[19:19] <rww> !java | xcode
[19:19] <Lokian> j0nr, follow the instructions to install the b43 driver
[19:19] <scunizi> Tetracomm, I have a nikon and I typically just take the card out and put it in a card reader..  for some reason f-spot or ubuntu doesn't detect the nikon model I have.  no biggy though.
[19:19] <Lokian> j0nr you should be fine after that.
[19:19] <superkiwi> I've managed to get the analog audio working: it's strange that the digital audio stopped working suddenly.
[19:20] <Lu6cifer_> I installed Ubuntu--but GRUB wasn't coming up. I looked at some help guides, and they told me to type in commands like "find /boot/grub/stage1" --but it said stuff like, "Error 15: file not found"
[19:20] <oskar-> Tetracomm, if f-spot does not work well, try gtkam, or a card reader as was said
[19:20] <cebrail> I got a quastion for everyone: what do you do when ubuntu doesn't response?, Is there any kind of "ctrl+alt+del" solution like Windows
[19:21] <j0nr> Lokian: ok did that /usr/share sh thingy... do i have to restart networking to take effect?
[19:21] <Lokian> j0nr, yes
[19:21] <newbnewb> Somehow there is a file in my home trashbin owned by root.  (used sudo instead of gksudo for gui) Anyway, does anyone know the absolute path to the trashbin so that I may go there and reowner the file?
[19:21] <j0nr> Lokian: :) how?
[19:21] <erUSUL> !trash | newbnewb
[19:21] <Lokian> j0nr restart ubuntu
[19:21] <rww> newbnewb: /home/USERNAME/.local/share/Trash
[19:21] <scunizi> Tetracomm, one annoying thing with fspot is when importing it creates directories for all the images.. by year .. then underneath that by month.. then underneath that by day.. you can change it though so it dumps everything into one directory.
[19:21] <j0nr> Lokian: oh ok...brb then
[19:21] <j0nr> Lokian: thanks
[19:21] <Lokian> j0nr good luck and farewell
[19:21] <newbnewb> Thank you.
[19:21] <oskar-> cebrail, if it is only the graphics, press ctrl+alt+backspace, if more is wrong, the magic sysreq key combinations can help you
[19:22] <gourdin> 157m 139m  11m S    1 13.9  25:33.94 knetworkmanager
[19:22] <rww> woohoo magic sysreq keys
[19:22] <Lu6cifer_> I also tried root (hd0, 5), but it told me that it the partition or something didn't exist
[19:22] <gourdin> knetworkmanager takes 139 m !!!
[19:22] <Tetracomm> scunizi: Ok. Thank you. I hope it is good. :)
[19:22] <gourdin> isn't this a shame ?
[19:22] <Lu6cifer_> But I checked gparted and it the linux partition is definitely there
[19:22] <rww> "Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring" ftw
[19:22] <oskar-> exactly
[19:22] <oskar-> ;-)
[19:22] <trunksen> hey there
[19:22] <scunizi> Tetracomm, the Canon or F-spot :)  both work.. it's what you do with them that makes the difference.
[19:23] <cebrail> oskar, where do I find the magic sysreq key combinations?
[19:23] <rww> !sysrq | cebrail
[19:23] <rww> cebrail: (PrintScreen and SysRq are on the same button, hence the name)
[19:23] <newbnewb> The command in terminal to remove a directory and all contained files?
[19:24] <Serviette_Sky> Bonsoir all .
[19:24] <rww> newbnewb: sudo rm -r DIRNAME
[19:24] <Dillizar> i have problem with my skype i cant set the sound device
[19:24] <Guest34521> HELP ME PLEASE, I tried everything on the wiki page with ndiswrapper, and I try to load several Windows drivers on the Alfa 500mw cd and the card still doesn't appear in iwconfig. ndiswrapper -l says device present and driver loaded. Could it be that I don't have a x64 processor? Wikipedia says ndiswrapper only works for x64 architecture, yet there are tutorials that don't mention this.
[19:24] <sebsebseb> !skype
[19:24] <macjason0607> guys .. what media player is there for ubuntu itunes or what ?
[19:24] <Tetracomm> scunizi: Canon should release software for Linux. The Canon software can't work in Ubuntu?
[19:24] <rww> newbnewb: (you only need sudo because there's a non-you-owned file in there; normally, you wouldn't put it there)
[19:24] <sebsebseb> !itunes
[19:24] <newbnewb> thank you rww
[19:24] <Dillizar> sebsebseb, i know how to install SKYPE
[19:25] <malibu> Hi.. I have a VPN connection going through a client on a windows machine on my network..
[19:25] <newbnewb> Ok, file removed.
[19:25] <nicodarious> Guest34521, what kind of wifi card are you tring toinstall?
[19:25] <newbnewb> Thank you for all your help.
[19:25] <newbnewb> :)
[19:25] <sebsebseb> Dillizar:  I was hoping it would mention open source alternative to SKype, but nope
[19:25] <malibu> Does anyone know how I would connect through it with another ubuntu machine on my network?
[19:26] <Dillizar> lol sebsebseb
[19:26] <Guest34521> nicodarious: finally, someone!, yes it's the alfa AWUS036H 500mw with realtek chipset
[19:26] <sebsebseb> malibu:  Samaba maybe  well that's file sharing
[19:26] <sebsebseb> Samba
[19:26] <scunizi> Tetracomm, no.. what software are you speaking of .. their cataloguing software?  every camera comes with something.. usually it's just to keep thier name in front of you.  It's not neccessarily the best software to use.. for another option of catalogueing software check out Picasa from Google.  It works on most everything.  For editing, Gimp, Mapivi, and lots of others.
[19:26] <nicodarious> ok, wait a sec.  you have an alpha computer system?
[19:27] <malibu> sebsebseb: I thought samba was for files and printers only?
[19:27] <sebsebseb> Dillizar:  well there's that Ekiga and the Free Software Foundation have something in development
[19:27] <rww> nicodarious: I assume by "not x64" he means 32-bit x86
[19:27] <Guest34521> nicodarious: I tried with all the windows drivers on the cd and even old ones. It's the USB alfa
[19:27] <malibu> I guess I need the windows machine to be a router, basically
[19:27] <sebsebseb> malibu: ha ha I doubt it
[19:27] <Tetracomm> scunizi: Ok, thank you.
[19:27] <rww> nicodarious: wait, nvm, misread... again :/
[19:27] <Guest34521> rww: but all the tutorial don't mention it
[19:27] <kieko> there is an application which launches other applications? anyone know the name?
[19:28] <Guest34521> kieko: terminal
[19:28] <Dillizar> sebastien, i know bot i dont use skype for payed calling :P
[19:28] <MrPeepers310> hey i need to create an sql database and i've already started it as a spreadsheet on open office what application should i use?
[19:28] <nicodarious> Guest34521, ok, standby.  getting info on the wifi card.
[19:28] <sebsebseb> Dillizar:  ok what do you use it for?
[19:28] <kieko> Guest34521, no another one
[19:28] <Dillizar> chats
[19:28] <kieko> you tyype and it autocompletes
[19:28] <Guest34521> kieko: oh no idea ask around, it should be easy
[19:29] <sebsebseb> Dillizar:   ok
[19:29] <rww> kieko: Press Alt-F2 in GNOME
[19:29] <raulursu> who knows to use python with ubuntu?
[19:29] <nicodarious> Guest34521, ok, gimme output from this command:  uname -a
[19:29] <MrPeepers310> hey i need to create an sql database and i've already started it as a spreadsheet on open office what application should i use?
[19:29] <sebsebseb> !python
[19:29] <Flannel> MrPeepers310: Are you familiar with SQL at all?
[19:29] <raulursu> tnx, let's try
[19:29] <macondo> abo: my friends tell me abo
[19:29] <raulursu> error
[19:29] <raulursu> bash: !python: event not found
[19:30] <MrPeepers310> Flannel: ermm... not really i'm learning it next semester but i need to implement it with a vb program
[19:30] <Guest34521> nicodarious: ok man thanks, 2.6.27-9 generic, UTC 2008 x86_64, it's on my other computer so I just wrote what I thought you'd be interested in.
[19:30] <kieko> rww, i know this method too but there is another one too. it comes from kde
[19:30] <nicodarious> yeah.  that'll do.  sec.  pulling info for 64-bit distro
[19:30] <kieko> alt+window key launches it
[19:31] <Flannel> MrPeepers310: a Visual Basic program?  OOo has OOo Base, which is a DB type program that might be good for you to use.
[19:31] <Guest34521> nicodarious: I followed this tutorial http://globalsyzygy.wordpress.com/2007/12/30/fixing-your-rtl8187-netgear-wg111v2-in-ubuntu/, and the ubuntu tutorial
[19:31] <MrPeepers310> Flannel ok thank you that is what i need
[19:32] <macjason0607> no itunes ?
[19:32] <nicodarious> ok, standby.  still looking thru web.  need info about your hardware before i can help ya, y'know?
[19:32] <Guest34521> nicodarious: after I load the drivers with ndiswrapper and do etc/init.d/networking restart I get, wlan1: no such device. and it's true it doesn't appear in iwconfig however ndiswrapper -l shows the driver is loaded
[19:32] <Guest34521> nicodarious: yes, I know I am just giving you more info
[19:32] <rww> !itunes | macjason0607: Apple elected not to make iTunes for Linux
[19:33] <nicodarious> Guest34521, ok, what's your lspci look like?
[19:33] <nicodarious> Guest34521, setting up a private chat for us....
[19:33] <juan10sp_laptop> buenas
[19:34] <fitztrev> Why if I'm working on file.txt, does it create a duplicate file called file.txt~  ?
[19:34] <sebsebseb> !python > raulursu
[19:34] <oskar-> fitztrev, depends on the editor
[19:34] <fitztrev> oskar-, gedit.  is there a way to prevent it?
[19:35] <nat2610> is there a way to see the list of packages installed through apt ? I'm trying to setup a new laptop and I'd like the exact things on my current and new laptop
[19:35] <zleap> synapitc should tell you what is installed
[19:35] <rww> !cloning | nat2610
[19:36] <zleap> but yeaj, i think apt will tell you not sure how,
[19:36] <zleap> i think dpkg has an option for that too
[19:36] <oskar-> fitztrev, try edit, preferences, editor, "create a backup copy..."
[19:36] <circa2k> would it be hard to install mysql 5.1 on ubuntu?
[19:36] <Lu6cifer> I was installing Ubuntu on my laptop---The partition is there (I checked with gparted), but when I reboot, GRUB is not there. I looked on some help guides, and they told me to type things like, "find /boot/grub/stage1" but all that came up with was "Error 15: file not found" I tried, root (hd0, 5) (the drive/partition that ubuntu is on) but it told that the partition or something doesn't...
[19:36] <Lu6cifer> ...exist.  Lastly, I tried removing the ubuntu ext3 partition with Livecd and Gparted, but it said I had to unmount all logical partitions higher than 6, or something like that---All partitions were definitely unmounted when I did this..
[19:36] <circa2k> i installed mysql with apt-get but its version 5.0.67, i need 5.1
[19:36] <Lu6cifer> any ideas?
[19:37] <d3rt> So my ubuntu 8.10 had auto updates. I downloaded and installed them. It wanted to reboot. Now there is another set of operating systems I can boot. It appears the kernel updated from -7 to -9. Now my sound doesn't work when booting into the newest version. 1. Why does it no longer work requiring me to download creative SB drivers and install them again? Why can't it just use my previous stuff? 2. Why would it leave the older version listed 
[19:37] <fitztrev> oskar-: perfect. thank you
[19:38] <comforteagle> are there any known issues with lighttpd & mod_rewrite on ubuntu? (I asked the lighttpd guys, but they didn't know)
[19:38] <nafur> Hi... I'm trying to run eve online with cedega but it tells me that it doesn't find "x11drv"... I'm curious if i have the correct graphic driver installed... it's an Intel X3100 (GM965) card, which one should it be? or is the cause something completely different?
[19:38] <magnetron> d3rt→ did you compile the drivers yourself, the first time? you only compiled them so they would work with the *old* kernel
[19:38] <oskar-> circa2k, then you should install it on your own. i would choose a path prefix, where you will not get in conflict with the package manager
[19:38] <newbnewb> One more question (for now :) )
[19:38] <newbnewb> http://www.unique5115467.pastebin.com/d22ab4fb7
[19:38] <newbnewb> Is this something that I'l have to resolve myself?
[19:38] <newbnewb> And suggestions?
[19:38] <d3rt> I didn't compile anything magnetron. I installed ubuntu using the live cd.
[19:39] <Flannel> d3rt: Because the old kernel is still around, it just installs another new kernel.  You can remove the old one if you'd like.  It's there in case theres some regression in the new kernel that causes it to not work
[19:39] <newbnewb> This occured with the update manager today.
[19:39] <nopper`fuffa> anyone know what's the name of the vga console font used as default in ubuntu?
[19:39] <Flannel> d3rt: How did you install the soundblaster drivers?
[19:39] <rww> newbnewb: Did you get any other errors apart from that?
[19:39] <magnetron> d3rt→ sorry, you said "download drivers and install again"
[19:39] <newbnewb> rww: I did not.
[19:39] <d3rt> My point is this isn't very user friendly. An automatic update including a critical 'recommended' update has now put another version in there and removed my sound.
[19:39] <d3rt> Well I will have to download the creative sound blaster drivers again would I not?
[19:39] <newbnewb> rww: It looks like a kernal update?
[19:39] <d3rt> i googled why my sound didnt work
[19:40] <d3rt> found soundblaster drivers
[19:40] <Flannel> d3rt: How did you install them?
[19:40] <d3rt> and installed them.
[19:40] <FloodBot1> d3rt: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:40] <Flannel> !enter | d3rt
[19:40] <Flannel> d3rt: "I installed them" doesn't tell us a whole lot.
[19:40] <Flannel> d3rt: Was it a bin file? source code? a deb? what?
[19:41] <johnveix> I need help installing my sound drivers, I am brand new to Ubuntu and have no idea how to do all the ./configure commands, etc. and where to enter them. I have the alsa drivers on my desktop as well as the linux version of the realtek drivers. Any help would be appreciated.
[19:42] <Lu6cifer> I was installing Ubuntu on my laptop---The partition is there (I checked with gparted), but when I reboot, GRUB is not there. I looked on some help guides, and they told me to type things like, "find /boot/grub/stage1" but all that came up with was "Error 15: file not found" I tried, root (hd0, 5) (the drive/partition that ubuntu is on) but it told that the partition or something doesn't exist.
[19:42] <Lu6cifer> Lastly, I tried removing the ubuntu ext3 partition with Livecd and Gparted, but it said I had to unmount all logical partitions higher than 6, or something like that---All partitions were definitely unmounted when I did this..
[19:42] <Lu6cifer> Any ideas on how to reinstall GRUB or how to delete the ubuntu partition?
[19:42] <d3rt> I will find out for you. It was days ago when I first made the switch from Windows to ubuntu. I followed some instructions on a forum. I downloaded files from creative's website and did something with them. This is irrelevant. I will find the website again and do it again BUT my point is installing automatic updates has effectively 'broken' my setup again, requiring me to fix it again. This is not user friendly.
[19:43] <newbnewb> rww: I'm a little fearful when it comes to these kernal updates. :)
[19:44] <Flannel> d3rt: It's not irrelevant.  You installed them manually (they aren't in package management), and the drivers check stuff for your kernel version, and install themselves for that kernel version only.
[19:44] <kieko> rww, gnome-do ! i jurst rememberd the name
[19:44] <Flannel> d3rt: Everytime you update your kernel, you'll need to reinstall them with this method
[19:44] <vortex5> d3rt, true, but all software you install outside of the normal package system is not really tidy; it should be a package (.deb) or sourcecode you add to Software Sources, like for Virtualbox or Wine, then it is preserved and updates to those apps are also installed via the automatic updates
[19:44] <newbnewb> rww: It looks like I do see more errors happened before I posted
[19:44] <newbnewb> http://www.unique5115468.pastebin.com/d3e6afd88
[19:44] <sja> heelo, all!
[19:45] <rww> kieko: Oh! Yeah, I forgot about that one :D
[19:45] <kieko> Guest34521, its Gnome-do i was after
[19:45] <Guest34521> kieko: ok thanks, good to know as well
[19:45] <kieko> rww, don't see how its much differnt to alt+f2 though
[19:46] <d3rt> Ty
[19:47] <newbnewb> Any clues on http://www.unique5115468.pastebin.com/d3e6afd88
[19:47] <newbnewb> ?
[19:47] <usamahashimi> Hello everyone!
[19:47] <rww> newbnewb: What's the output when you run "whereis update-grub" in the terminal?
[19:48] <usamahashimi> I bought a switch "Alfa Digital", can anyone tell me that whats its default user-password?
[19:48] <sja> help me, please! i have windows, and today i install ubuntu (use FULL disk). all my data is lost. how match rescue my data ?
[19:49] <newbnewb> rww: http://www.unique511546p.pastebin.com/m389ab20a
[19:49] <newbnewb> that is the output
[19:49] <peppe_> ciao a tutti
[19:50] <nafur> I'm still trying to run eve online with cedega but it tells me that it doesn't find "x11drv"... I'm curious if i have the correct graphic driver installed... it's an Intel X3100 (GM965) card, which one should it be? or is the cause something completely different? (Output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77839/ )
[19:50] <rww> newbnewb: eep, that's not good. Give me a sec to look something up
[19:50] <magnetron> !cedega | nafur
[19:50] <M4d3L> hi, how I can see a file log live?
[19:50] <magnetron> nafur→ we can't really provide support for cedega.
[19:50] <oskar-> m
[19:50] <oskar-> M4d3L, tail -f logfile
[19:51] <nafur> magnetron: ah, ok... thx *g*
[19:51] <scotlfs> Can someone tell me, is there a ubuntu repository where I can get open-office 3? I'd prefer to use internally managed packages if possible
[19:51] <magnetron> nafur→ the company producing cedega might help you, though
[19:52] <dr_willis> scotlfs,  from what i hear in the forums and stuff.. OOo3 - is a bit flakey under ubuntu at thsi time
[19:52] <magnetron> scotlfs→ no such repositories or packets are maintained by the ubuntu distribution
[19:53] <scotlfs> ok thanx guys
[19:53] <rww> newbnewb: okays, found it. Are you using a regular PC, or a Mac?
[19:54] <jimi__hendrix> can i ask a general computer question?
[19:54] <dr_willis> jimi__hendrix,  you just did.. :) care for another?
[19:54] <Datamin> hi
[19:55] <wesolek> does anybody know what to do after the cairo-dock installation for it to work?
[19:55] <jimi__hendrix> yes
[19:55] <rww> newbnewb: actually, nvm, it shouldn't matter. just issue from the terminal: sudo apt-get --reinstall install grub
[19:55] <magnetron> jimi__hendrix→ if it is a hardware question, you might get better help in #hardware
[19:55] <trunksen> heyho
[19:55] <jimi__hendrix> na
[19:55] <rww> jimi__hendrix: Go ahead and ask the actual question. If someone knows the answer, they'll reply to you.
[19:55] <jimi__hendrix> i want to resize my linux partition (so i have two...one for experimenting)
[19:55] <evolve_> anyone know of an application i can load from a floppy disk in order to install ubuntu from a USB drive?
[19:56] <jimi__hendrix> can i do this in linux?
[19:56] <jimi__hendrix> or do i need to burn a live cd
[19:56] <Llanowyn> Hello all, I have a question regarding getting my pcmcia wireless networking card to work in my laptop.  I just installed ubuntustudio and I'm trying to get into System > Administration > Network to set up my wireless card, however Network isn't in my list under gnome.  I have the install dvd that I started with, however when I go into synaptic it wants me to connect to the internet.
[19:56] <Llanowyn> How do I internet?
[19:56] <zleap> gnuparted or something
[19:57] <rww> jimi__hendrix: you can't resize an active partition, so yeah, you'd need to burn a CD. either a live CD or the !gparted CD
[19:57] <Xintruder> اه
[19:57] <Xintruder> Hi
[19:57] <rww> !gparted | jimi__hendrix
[19:57] <dr_willis> jimi__hendrix,  the tools like gparted can do that. but you must resize UNMOUNTED partitions.. so a live cd is often the best way to go.
[19:57] <magnetron> jimi__hendrix→ yes. you can do this in linux. you can't resize the hard drive you are actively running linux from, so you'll have to boot from usb or cd and run gparted
[19:57] <dr_willis> jimi__hendrix,  that gparted live cd - is a must have in your pc toolbox. :P
[19:57] <jimi__hendrix> ok thanks all...
[19:57] <evolve_> zleap: was that in reference to my question?
[19:58] <Xintruder> is there a program in ubuntu that I can useI have a simcard installed in my vx3 lamborghini laptop, how can i use it to get mobile internet on ubuntu?
[19:58] <zleap> yeah,i think so
[19:58] <jimi__hendrix> how easy is gparted to use
[19:58] <Draco4King> gparted is pretty easy, just be cautious
[19:58] <zleap> it was in response to the resize hdd question
[19:58] <oskar-> Llanowyn, what do you want to do with the internet?
[19:58] <zleap> but the guys here have given more useful info
[19:58] <prova> hello i have ubuntu  i m in recovery mode... i need to put some files on the the partition of windws  how to do ??
[19:59] <Draco4King> if you don't understand something about a program, look up the manual by opening terminal, then typing "man <program name>"
[19:59] <lee_1> if I was in a screen session, inside of a parent screen session, how would I control the 'child' session? e.g. CTRL+A+D detaches the parent session and so I lose the child one too... How can I direct my commands to the child one?
[19:59] <oskar-> does the live cd use swap partitions found on the hard drive?
[19:59] <jimi__hendrix> how easy is gparted to use
[19:59] <jimi__hendrix> then im done asking nonubuntu questions
[19:59] <Flannel> jimi__hendrix: It's all point and click, pretty easy.
[19:59] <prova> hey i have some hard disk of the windws partion mounted in the ubuntu partion how i go in ??? from commad line??
[20:00] <Sierradump> Where do programs get installed to?  Like i just installed amarok and I am trying to stream some music and it says "open with" and I have to choose the program?
[20:00] <Llanowyn> oskar:  My objective is to browse websites and share files through my home network, however I have no network applet in my gnome menu so I can't configure my wireless card.  I have used the wireless card in other installs of ubuntu before, so I know it works.  How do I install the network applet if I can't connect to the internet to download the proper packages?
[20:00] <trunksen> @ prova => cd and mountpoint
[20:00] <jimi__hendrix> thanks all
[20:00] <trunksen> ex cd /mnt/windows
[20:00] <trunksen> *exampel: cd /mnt/windows
[20:00] <newbnewb> rww ok reinstalling
[20:00] <Flannel> Sierradump: Usually its to /usr/bin, but you can check by going to a command line and typing 'which command' where command is the name (probably amarok in this case)
[20:00] <dr_willis> Sierradump,  try the 'which' or 'locate' commands in the terminal to track them down.. or if theres icons for them in the menus you can check their properties to see where they are located at.
[20:00] <wesolek> anybody willing to take on a cairo-dock problem? I've installed it, but nothing happened
[20:01] <prova> hm...
[20:01] <trunksen> ^^
[20:01] <prova> ok i try
[20:01] <prova> thx
[20:01] <dr_willis> wesolek,  try running it from a terminal or menu item ? what did you expect to happen?
[20:01] <trunksen> np
[20:01] <n8tuser> Llanowyn-> you can use the command line,  can you explain your network connectivity? whats connected to what?
[20:01] <wesolek> dr_willis, I was expecting to see that cairo dock :)
[20:02] <oskar-> Llanowyn, it should have been installed. but i also had issues with it crashing in some circumstances. try alt+f2 and then "nm-applet". perhaps then you can use it again
[20:02] <wesolek> dr_willis, cairo_dock_create_surface_from_image: assertion `rsvg_handle != NULL' failed
[20:02] <wesolek> warning :  (cairo-dock-load.c:cairo_dock_load_task_indicator:786)
[20:02] <wesolek>   couldn't load image '/home/pico/.cairo-dock/Indicateur cairo dock/1208712452.svg' for indicators
[20:02] <zleap> hey thanks for mentioing gparted live cd i am grabbing that now it looks useful
[20:02] <wesolek> and it's hanging now
[20:03] <Llanowyn> n8tuser:  I have no network connectivity.  I have a pcmcia wireless networking card that I know works with ubuntu.  I can't get into my networking configuration applet
[20:03] <dr_willis> wesolek,  sounds lik eits looking for some default config foles that dont exist.
[20:03] <Llanowyn> oskar:  could not open location 'file:///home/user/nm-applet'
[20:03] <wesolek> dr_willis, I would not know how to fix it :(
[20:04] <dr_willis> wesolek,  i would check the bug reports and forums and see  what others say
[20:04] <n8tuser> Llanowyn-> what are you using now to chat with us?
[20:04] <wesolek> thanks, dr_willis
[20:04] <wesolek> will do
[20:04] <Llanowyn> n8tuser:  A different PC. =)
[20:05] <Sierradump> Amarok won't play .m3u files?  Says something about a demux error?
[20:05] <n8tuser> Llanowyn-> can you try   sudo dhclient wlan0  and see if it connects?
[20:05] <zerwas> Using Opera, most of the flash sites (but not youtube for example) are stuttering here. But in Firefox it works. Has anybody an idea what can cause this? (System has 4GByte RAM and dual core CPU)
[20:06] <Raylz> ubottu: why did you leave me
[20:06] <ssmy_> zerwas: don't use opera? lol
[20:06] <Raylz> ubottu: thats the only excuse you ever say
[20:07] <oskar-> hehe
[20:07] <Llanowyn> n8tuser: wifi0: unknown hardware address type 801 | wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device.
[20:07] <zerwas> ssmy_> any serious idea?
[20:08] <Llanowyn> n8tuser:  I remember when it worked on a different ubuntu install it was ath0 instead of eth0 or something, I'll try ath0.
[20:08] <ssmy_> zerwas: honestly, no. it seems that it would be a configuration issue though if firefox is not affected.
[20:08] <Pupeno> Any ideas why my name apperas like this: J. Pablo" Fernández, with a quote in the middle, in all the mails I send? I configured it as J. Pablo Fernández, of course.
[20:08] <MrPeepers310> is there any gui application to make sql databases?
[20:08] <n8tuser> Llanowyn-> ok lets do this, post in pastebin the results of...   ifconfig -a;  iwconfig;  route -n; and cat /etc/resolv.conf
[20:08] <zleap> MrPeepers310: there is a http interface
[20:09] <MrPeepers310> what is it?
[20:09] <Flannel> MrPeepers310: OOo Base does.  There's a MySQL Administrator thing (mysql-admin in the repos) if you're looking to set up a full fledged MySQL DB
[20:09] <zleap> thanks FL
[20:09] <oskar-> Pupeno, how do you send the mails?
[20:09] <MrPeepers310> no i just need to create a database for a vb application
[20:10] <Pupeno> oskar-: Evolution, smpt (courier mta, my own server)
[20:10] <MrPeepers310> Flannel: Oobase has sql ability?
[20:10] <Guest123> does anyone knows openemr?
[20:10] <dreamy> hi room
[20:10] <Massasauga> hello
[20:10] <Llanowyn> n8tuser:  can I do the list of commands >> log.txt to generate a file I can transfer between computers?
[20:10] <Llanowyn> n8tuser:  I forget how to redirect output to a file. -.-'
[20:10] <n8tuser> Llanowyn-> yes and use the pastebin to post it
[20:10] <navilon> hey guys, how do i turn off services via the command line
[20:11] <Flannel> MrPeepers310: Yes, OOo base is a database thing.  Are you sure you're in the right room?  This is an Ubuntu support channel.  You may be more interested in a Visual Basic support channel.
[20:11] <Llanowyn> n8tuser:  Ok, give me a sec.
[20:11] <MrPeepers310> I have some of the data in a excel sheet
[20:11] <MrPeepers310> flannel ill try that as well as the mysql room
[20:11] <Raylz> n8tuser: cmd >> file
[20:11] <genii> navilon: Usually something like:  sudo /etc/init.d/<name-of-service> start/stop/restart
[20:12] <navilon> genii: sweet, thanks
[20:12] <aboSamoor> after upgrading to from kernel -19 to kernel -22 the suspend is not working, any idea how can I figure what is the error ?
[20:12] <genii> navilon: np
[20:12] <Draco4King> so... i'm using the alternate install disc. i have the option to execute a shell in the installer environment, which i would imagine would have the option to install ubuntu, yes?
[20:12] <Raylz> Draco4King: no ;)
[20:12] <navilon> genii: what if i dont want it to start on boot
[20:12] <Flannel> Draco4King: Nah, you just do the regular menu based install
[20:12] <Raylz> Draco4King: take the other option
[20:13] <Draco4King> Draco4King: oi, ok. thanks
[20:13] <jleitone> hi everyone. im having a problem: i installed ubuntu on a pc for my younger brother, and so that he couldnt change stuff, i made his account not to be super user. but now i cant change anything, since there is none super user. how can i revert that??
[20:13] <Draco4King> err... X-D
[20:13] <genii> navilon: Then use update-rc.d function to make it not load at runlevels 2 thru 5
[20:13] <Draco4King> Raylz: k, thanks
[20:13] <Draco4King> Flanell: k, thanks
[20:13] <oskar-> Pupeno, is it shown wrong on other mail user agents? maybe evolution a problem because of the non-ascii character,  at time of editing or showing
[20:13] <genii> navilon: man update-rc.d for info on it's syntax
[20:13] <Raylz> jleitone: ever used sudo?
[20:13] <jleitone> yes
[20:14] <Pupeno> oskar-: it is showing wrong everywhere (except sent folder).
[20:14] <Raylz> jleitone: did you set a root password?
[20:14] <jleitone> i did it on another pc... i changed the password to one i know, and made the login automatic
[20:14] <Flannel> jleitone: Is there more than one account on this box?
[20:14] <jleitone> to achieve the result i want
[20:14] <jleitone> no
[20:14] <jleitone> there is only one thats the problem
[20:14] <jleitone> i want to make it sudo again
[20:14] <jleitone> with auto login with a password that the user wont know
[20:14] <Pupeno> oskar-: like this: http://groups.google.com/group/clojure/msg/91d4a5ac2ecb03c5?dmode=source
[20:14] <Raylz> jleitone: edit the /etc/sudoers file then
[20:14] <Flannel> jleitone: Alright, you'll want to create an accunt that you can use as an administrator.  Reboot, at GRUB (hit escape after the post screen to get to the grub menu), choose "recovery console"
[20:15] <Llanowyn> n8tuser:  Ok this is strange.  When I put in 'sudo dhclient ath0' before, it connected.  Now I can browse the internet with firefox and such.  What should I do to make sure I don't have connectivity issues in the future?
[20:15] <Flannel> Raylz: That's not really the best way.
[20:15] <PaulEycks> Does anyone know if Foxconn bios have problems?  I have a 760gxk8mb mother board.
[20:15] <NEWUSER> Hello
[20:15] <jleitone> but to edit that i must be sudo no?
[20:15] <NEWUSER> hola
[20:15] <Raylz> jleitone: or root
[20:15] <Slim404> hi
[20:15] <jleitone> i dont know
[20:15] <jleitone> how to be root
[20:15] <Draco4King> sudo makes you root
[20:15] <Flannel> jleitone: Then once you're there, you'll want to add a user (adduser username), then add that user to the admin group (adduser user admin)
[20:15] <n8tuser> Llanowyn-> you are asking for guarantees? no such thing on wifi ..
[20:15] <Raylz> jleitone: boot into recovery mode
[20:15] <gnutron> jleitone: do NOT edit /etc/sudoers directly
[20:15] <jleitone> ok...
[20:15] <ComputerGuru> any programmers in here looking to join a website
[20:15] <ratpoison> hello! intrepid amd64 usr. My pulseaudio server keeps crashing.
[20:15] <Raylz> jleitone: and set the root password with passwd root
[20:15] <jleitone> how can i boot int
[20:15] <jleitone> recovey mode?
[20:16] <genii> jleitone: gnutron is correct. Use visudo
[20:16] <help_me_plz> whats up with this bot saying im using a proxy?
[20:16] <Raylz> jleitone: its in the grub menu
[20:16] <jleitone> visudo?
[20:16] <Xintruder> does ubuntu have a software for bluetooth, and fingerprint security?
[20:16] <NEWUSER> i need help for detect and install some software for use my CONEXANT WMODEM like a voice phone.???
[20:16] <gnutron> jleitone: you use a special program, read the file first.
[20:16] <Flannel> jleitone: Choose it at the GRUB menu, and please stop using enter as punctuation
[20:16] <Flannel> Xintruder: yes
[20:16] <jleitone> ok ill try it
[20:16] <jleitone> bye
[20:16] <ComputerGuru> intruder yes it has bluetooth
[20:16] <oskar-> Pupeno, what is the raw, encoded "From:" line in a message from the sent folder?
[20:16] <Flannel> gnutron: He shouldn't edit sudoers *at all*
[20:16] <Myrtti> !root | Raylz
[20:16] <gnutron> Flannel: i agree.
[20:17] <aboSamoor> after upgrading to from kernel -19 to kernel -22 the suspend is not working, any idea how can I figure what is the error ? can you help me ? any better place to ask ?
[20:17] <Myrtti> !noroot | Raylz
[20:17] <r_a_j_e> !themes
[20:17] <Pupeno> oskar-: From: "J. Pablo" =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fern=E1ndez?= <pupeno@pupeno.com>
[20:17] <Raylz> Myrtti: that is stupid
[20:17] <help_me_plz> any one instresed in answering some general help questions?
[20:17] <Flannel> Raylz: No it's not.
[20:17] <Flannel> !anyone | help_me_plz
[20:18] <NEWUSER> How can i detect my modem with amd64 Intrepid Ibex Ubuntu ?
[20:18] <Myrtti> Raylz: Ubuntu is not designed to use the root account. You'll break things if you enable root account. Please don't advice anyone enabling it
[20:18] <Raylz> Myrtti: lol ok :)
[20:18] <oskar-> Pupeno, ok, the quote sign, that is disturbing, is somehow escaped with a backslash
[20:19] <evolve_> is there a special way you should burn ubuntu in order to have it boot on older machines?
[20:19] <help_me_plz> ok for one, does anyone know if 845g Intel intragd. graphics can get a resulation of either 1600x1050 or 1600x1200?
[20:19] <Datamin> er gibt mir die fehlermeldung
[20:19] <Llanowyn> n8tuser:  http://pastebin.com/da36faa  This was posted to pastebin using my laptop.  What should I do to keep my connection up?
[20:19] <Myrtti> Raylz: if you need the root privileges, you use sudo (with terminal apps) or gksudo/kdesudo (with graphical apps)
[20:19] <Myrtti> !de | Datamin
[20:19] <Flannel> !de | Datamin
[20:19] <genii> evolve_: Two speed burn if possible. Also the text based CD will ijnstall on boxes with less ram than the livecd version
[20:19] <Raylz> Myrtti: it still sounds pretty awkward
[20:20] <Xintruder> I have a sim card (mobile) in my laptop, will i be able to use it if I install ubuntu? I use it for mobile internet
[20:20] <oskar-> Pupeno, i will try, what a sendmail and a postfix do with such a inner quote sign
[20:20] <help_me_plz> anyone?
[20:20] <gnutron> zsquareplusc: if you're here, is it true that sshd doesn't answer logins in a local user is not logged in? in hardy that was never the case, nor other distro's. [sigh]
[20:20] <Flannel> Raylz: It's not.  There's no compelling reason to enable a root account.
[20:21] <FFighter> does the root partition need to be primary?
[20:21] <n8tuser> Llanowyn-> nothing to do to make it stay up, its connected now isnt it?
[20:21] <FFighter> better put, any of the partitions need to be primary?
[20:21] <FFighter> or can all of them be extended?
[20:21] <wolf_> Hey, I am trying to compile ffmpeg from source to get nuvexport working.  I was following this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ffmpeg. But I am getting make: /version.sh: Command not found make: *** No rule to make target `config.mak'.  Stop. when i try and make
[20:21] <uicaou> my root isn't.. i think
[20:22] <Doonz2> I mounted two raid arrays ,they were mounted in /home/server/rs1 and /home/server/rs2. On the desktop the array that was mounted in /home/server/rs1 shows up on the desktop as 2000.4 Gb Media and the one mounted in /home/server/rs2 shows up as rs2 on the desktop Im trying to figure out where that label 2000.4Gb Media came from and howto change it to rs1. Any ideas?
[20:22] <FFighter> anyone ?
[20:22] <help_me_plz> ok for one, does anyone know if 845g Intel intragd. graphics can get a resulation of either 1600x1050 or 1600x1200?
[20:22] <Llanowyn> n8tuser:  It is connected now, however I can't specify a network to connect to or give it a static IP on my network.  Also It's a laptop that will be traveling with me so I won't be able to have 100% uptime.  I'd like it to connect to a network of my choosing every time I turn it on.
[20:22] <Pupeno> oskar-: thanks.
[20:23] <Xintruder> hmmm... no one knows an answer to my question?
[20:23] <Raylz> Flannel: hm i use su all the time on my gentoo
[20:23] <vbman11> does any one know how to enable MPX?
[20:23] <Draco4King> state your question again?
[20:23] <bullgard4> What command will test a newly bought 8 GB USB stick thoroughly? GParted does not show any errors. '~$ sudo hdparm /dev/sdb1; HDIO_GET_32BIT failed: Invalid argument. HDIO_GET_UNMASKINTR failed: Invalid argument; HDIO_GET_DMA failed: Invalid argument; HDIO_GET_KEEPSETTINGS failed: Invalid argument; readonly = 0 (off); readahead = 256 (on); geometry = 977/256/63, sectors = 15679396, start = 44."
[20:23] <uicaou> use sudo su
[20:23] <Raylz> Flannel: bugs me to write sudo every time
[20:24] <vbman11> does any one know how to enable MPX?
[20:24] <Draco4King> umm... while using alternate install cd: "Debootstrap warning -- Warning: Failure while configuring base packages"
[20:24] <Draco4King> anyone know what that is?
[20:24] <Sierradump> Can someone help me understand how sound works in linux (specifically ubuntu 8.10 using gnome)...
[20:24] <Sierradump> I have several sound devices listed and don't know whats what? '
[20:24] <Sierradump> Alsa vs. OSS ?
[20:25] <Sierradump> Connexant vs. nVidia devices too?
[20:25] <vbman11> does any one know how to enable MPX?
[20:25] <Flannel> Raylz: that's fine.  Please don't recommend people use the root account in this channel.  Thanks.
[20:26] <Draco4King> is busybox-initramfs a system-vital package?
[20:26] <Shark_7-11> Looking for a good VM (like qemu)
[20:26] <Raylz> Flannel: np, i just find it irritating
[20:26] <gnutron> Sierradump: you want to use Alsa for output, if you use onboard sound versus a sound card, you want to check the ubuntu wiki's on setting those up.
[20:26] <NEWUSER> how can detect my modem with intrepid ibex?
[20:27] <Sierradump> gnutron:  do you have a couple minutes to help  me understand this? I got it working but don't understand anything that I did!
[20:27] <Sierradump> haha
[20:27] <philjo> I'm just trying to do the "try Ubuntu without disturbing your system" thingy.  And it leaves me at a terminal window instead of loading a GUI.  Is this a common problem?
[20:27] <Sierradump> gnutron:  I am using a laptop and I have onboard sound I suppose?  I also have some volume buttons on my laptop (up/down/mute)
[20:27] <Draco4King> wow... the alternate installer failed to install the base system
[20:27] <droopsta915> why is my computer loading so slow, when I'm online
[20:28] <Flannel> Draco4King: Reboot, choose the "Check CD for Defects" option at the boot menu.
[20:28] <philjo> alrighty, I'll give it a shot
[20:28] <Draco4King> Flannel: did it twice already, passed
[20:28] <Draco4King> wait... i have the command it failed on
[20:29] <Sierradump> gnutron:  when I go to SYSTEM | PREFERENCES | SOUND  - I have a list of about 5 options and each option has 8 devices listed under it - some of the devices are duplicates too?
[20:29] <Draco4King> Debootstrap warning -- Warning: Failure trying to run: chroot /target dpks --force-depends --install var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.8~20080505-0ubuntu7_i386.deb
[20:29] <Suspect> Hello - I'm running the latest version of Ubuntu (Intrepid Ibex) and I set up my own network connection in Gnome's network connections manager, but it seems that it keeps adding auto eth0"
[20:29] <oskar-> Pupeno, both, sendmail and postfix seem to change the from line. i guess (but don't know), that the unescaped quote with the space afterwards is not valid this encoding
[20:29] <gnutron> Sierradump: I'm not that used to it, i set mine up years ago and it can be painful sometimes. in your menu find sound preferences i think, choose alsa, right lik on your volume icon and choose the  device, like your sound card or the boards chip. its always a hack if it doesnt work out of the box. keep asking, there are real sharp helpers here.
[20:30] <Suspect> Hello - I'm running the latest version of Ubuntu (Intrepid Ibex) and I set up my own network connection in Gnome's network connections manager, but it seems that it keeps adding "auto eth0" randomly, and connecting to that instead (using DHCP) I was wondering if anyone knows how to disable this..?
[20:30] <Suspect> Hit enter accidentally the first time ..
[20:30] <EJ> will 8.10 server mount and share an NTFS partition ?
[20:30] <gnutron> Sierradump: right click, don't lik. :)
[20:30] <Driv3r912> no
[20:30] <Pupeno> oskar-: is Evolution encoding my name wrongly?
[20:30] <Shark_7-11> Ej: Mine words with NTFS
[20:30] <Shark_7-11> works*
[20:31] <Sierradump> gnutron: but it tastes soooo gooood :)
[20:31] <Baba_B00ie> hey running ubuntu 8.10. i want to remove all the panels. i right click to remove but it's grayed out. any ideas how to do it ?
[20:31] <philjo> when you install Ubuntu, you're supposed to get dropped off in a GUI not a terminal, right?
[20:31] <Sierradump> gnutron; reading wiki now - thanks for help!
[20:31] <gnutron> Sierradump: :-) g'luck
[20:31] <oskar-> Pupeno, yes, it seems to me
[20:31] <Llanowyn> n8tuser:  It is connected now, however I can't specify a network to connect to or give it a static IP on my network.  Also It's a laptop that will be traveling with me so I won't be able to have 100% uptime.  I'd like it to connect to a network of my choosing every time I turn it on.
[20:31] <EJ> Shark_7-11: ok thanx. I just got a 250 gig external drive and i want to hook it up to my server and share it out locally as my public drive
[20:31] <Draco4King> Babe_B00ie: click System > Administrator > System Monitor
[20:31] <gnutron> philjo: unless its the server edition, correct.
[20:32] <Llanowyn> n8tuser:  oops.  Anyway I found my Network applet in the synaptic package manager.  That should fix my problem on reboots.  Thank you for your help. =)
[20:32] <Pupeno> oskar-: ok, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/303254  (feel free to add information if you can, you know more than I here)
[20:32] <philjo> ok thx.  I'll have to figure out why I've never seen the GUI.  Just wanted to make sure there wasn't some launch command I didn't know
[20:32] <Fougner> Baba_B00ie, is the option "lock to panel" checked?
[20:32] <Baba_B00ie> no it's not checked
[20:32] <aboSamoor> I got this message when thinkpad try to wake up from suspend 'thinkpad_acpi: unknown LID-related HKEY event: 0x5010' ? any help ?
[20:33] <Baba_B00ie> i wanna replace the standard gnome panel with this avant 3d manager and so far it's working great.. but just can't remove the stock panel
[20:33] <Guest34521> Does anyone know if there is a known problem with x64 bit wireless card drivers in x64 bit linux ? I can't get ndiswrapper to work!
[20:33] <oskar-> Pupeno, ok...
[20:33] <tigin88> i cant get my lexmark x7350 to work, test sent to queue but never printed
[20:33] <dr_willis> Guest34521,  i imagine it depeds on the chipset of the card.. ive had no issues here with my 2  - 64bit laptops and their wireless cards.
[20:34] <Guest34521> dr_willis: yes but mine is a rtl8187 but it comes with x64 drivers though, could it just be nidwrapper bug ?
[20:34] <lleitao> im having problems with an ATI X1650XT AGP. whenever i try to install the oficial ati drivers, when i reebot, it gives me an error, and forces me to enter in low graphics default mode. how can i s olve this (running 8.10 on latest kernel)
[20:34] <TaeZ> hello
[20:35] <tigin88> i cant get my lexmark x7350 to work, test sent to queue but never printed
[20:35] <dr_willis> Guest34521,  i have no idea. If it has linux drivers.. i dont see why you would be needing ndiswrappers at all
[20:35] <Pupeno> oskar-: thanks very much.
[20:35] <Guest34521> dr_willis: because the drivers are very BUGGY, and connection fluctuates like crazy, in Windos I have no problem with conneciton
[20:36] <lleitao>  im having problems with an ATI X1650XT AGP. whenever i try to install the oficial ati drivers, when i reebot, it gives me an error, and forces me to enter in low graphics default mode. how can i s olve this (running 8.10 on latest kernel)
[20:37] <TaeZ> relax lleitao
[20:37] <draco1234> help, i forgot what the offtopic channel is called
[20:37] <TaeZ> everything will be alright
[20:37] <lleitao> im having this problem for no reason at all... and cant seem to fix it. looked everywhere
[20:37] <draco1234> !ot
[20:37] <draco1234> ah
[20:37] <TaeZ> where is that everywhere?
[20:37] <TaeZ> you really couldn't look everythere
[20:37] <mantispa1m> lleitao: I've got a very similait prob., but with the nvidia drivers
[20:37] <lleitao> ...
[20:38] <mkha_hero> cai room nay dong qua ma sao hem thay ai chat vay ta :-?
[20:38] <lleitao> i install the drivers ubuntu gives me.
[20:38] <mkha_hero> giong bot we' :-s
[20:38] <lleitao> and they dont work
[20:38] <lleitao> wtf?
[20:38] <lleitao> one thing is inexistent drivers
[20:38] <lleitao> other is the drivers ubuntu advises
[20:38] <tigin88> i cant get my lexmark x7350 to work, test sent to queue but never printed
[20:38] <mkha_hero> ( Hello ) lleitao :D
[20:38] <gnutron> lleitao: using ATI proprietary drivers can be very problematic. I always revert to the generic ati driver. consult the wiki's for extensive details.
[20:38] <mantispa1m> I'm also using 8.10
[20:38] <lleitao> generic ati driver
[20:38] <lleitao> doesnt even run compiz
[20:39] <phoenix_rebearth> hello, I've got a problem with my screen
[20:39] <phoenix_rebearth> help
[20:39] <mkha_hero> ??
[20:39] <mantispa1m> I've gotten the nvidia 177 driver to work, but it's stuck in low-res.
[20:39] <ssmy_> phoenix_rebearth: just ask
[20:39] <lleitao> you are better than me
[20:39] <phoenix_rebearth> does anybody work with 8.10 and has had problem with screen troubles
[20:39] <lucas> where can i find openoffice 3 repositories for hardy?
[20:40] <phoenix_rebearth> yesterday I could easily work, now I get a kind of snow on the screen and linear problems
[20:40] <tigin88> hello help me running 8.10 dual boot win xp pro
[20:40] <oskar-> Pupeno, is your name surrounded by quotes in evolution?
[20:40] <DigBig> Hi , anyone uses Monodevelop ?
[20:40] <phoenix_rebearth> I still have to check out my ram modules but I guess that won't solve the problem
[20:41] <malibu> Say I log in as 'testuser' and I sudo to 'root'.  Is there any way for a script running as 'root' to find my original user ID?
[20:41] <phoenix_rebearth> the disruption also changes with the changement of Hz
[20:41] <Skky> anyone familar with IP Tables?
[20:42] <lucas> where can i find openoffice 3 repositories for hardy?
[20:42] <DigBig> malibu, ofcourse in /var/log/... it's noted that testuser did sudo commands ...
[20:42] <phoenix_rebearth> ssmy?? anything familiar
[20:43] <ronfleur>  Hi! Beginner (Xubuntu) question: I've installed Xu on an USB key from a CD ISO. Is this a configurable system or only an ISO image?
[20:43] <Flannel> lucas: there's a PPA on launchpad.  Um, forums might be a good place to look.  Let me look as well
[20:43] <oskar-> Skky, a bit, what do you want to know?
[20:43] <phoenixz>  Is there a command that can tell me how much traffic / sec is passing over a network interface? like.. eth0 : 502KiB/sec, something like that?
[20:43] <dr_willis> ronfleur,  depends on exactly 'how' you installed it.
[20:43] <lucas> Flannel, ive found those but dont work
[20:43] <malibu> DigBig: Yes but I mean from a more reliable scripting standpoint.... I want to transfer xauth certificates from the user's account
[20:43] <ronfleur> dr_willis I've copied casper and isolinux
[20:44] <Flannel> lucas: Whta doesn't work about them?
[20:44] <lucas> ronfleur, configurable system
[20:44] <phoenix_rebearth> have to go, I'll log in once I'm home. I've got another screen. I'll check out when I'm home.
[20:44] <lucas> Flannel, well... packages dont show at all
[20:44] <ronfleur> tks Lucas!
[20:44] <DigBig> malibu, i'm afraid i can't help with that ...
[20:44] <Draco4King> lawlz the alternate installer is funny. it stops, but if you tap enter a few times really quick, it starts going again X-D
[20:45] <draco1234> phoenixz, yeah, are you using gnome?
[20:45] <bullgard4> What command will test a newly bought 8 GB USB stick thoroughly? GParted does not show any errors. '~$ sudo hdparm /dev/sdb1; HDIO_GET_32BIT failed: Invalid argument. HDIO_GET_UNMASKINTR failed: Invalid argument; HDIO_GET_DMA failed: Invalid argument; HDIO_GET_KEEPSETTINGS failed: Invalid argument; readonly = 0 (off); readahead = 256 (on); geometry = 977/256/63, sectors = 15679396, start = 44."
[20:45] <lucas> ronfleur, u may have problems for booting if u didnt configure it ok, did u try to boot from it already?
[20:45] <chuxxsss> will wireshark do that? I mean check network traffic
[20:45] <Flannel> lucas: So, youve got an issue with the repositories, not the packages?  We can fix that.  Please pastebin your sources.list
[20:45] <ronfleur> lucas, boots fine!
[20:46] <Bobbie> #ubuntu-fr
[20:46] <dr_willis> ronfleur,  and it boots? :) wow. Heh..  I normally use the unetbootin tool, or the usb-disk tool in ubuntu.  the latter can make a 'peristant'  setup so most changes can be saved.. but they are basicially 'live cd' on a thumbdrive. not a 'full/normal install'
[20:46] <lucas> ronfleur, cool hehe i had a lot of issues with that kinda installation, nice
[20:46] <ronfleur> dr-Willis I've used pendrivelinux instructs
[20:47] <lucas> Flannel, its not a problem of sources.list its a problem of repositories, just dont work.. they dont have anything
[20:47] <dr_willis> ronfleur,  those basicially do what unetbootin automates :)  or the usb-disk tool does.. I perfer the usb-disk tool. so i can have a persist home/settings
[20:47] <[TiZ]> Hi. I'm trying to watch a 720p video in Totem, and it's going pretty slowly. I'm using fglrx; it's faster in radeon. What can I do to speed things up?
[20:47] <lucas> Flannel, thats why im asking for openoffice 3 repositories
[20:48] <LjL> lucas: a repository that doesn't have anything - that's an interesting concept
[20:48] <DawnLight> hello. is partition encryption possible to set up during installation?
[20:48] <[TiZ]> lucas: http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main
[20:48] <lucas> LjL, why dont u try ppa openoffice 3 repos and see if u can update and get what i say
[20:48] <lucas> [TiZ], thanks, but im on hardy...
[20:48] <[TiZ]> Change intrepid to hardy then
[20:48] <Flannel> lucas: Those PPAs are the official ones.  Apparently they've pulled the packages temporarily while they fix an issue.
[20:49] <LjL> lucas, oh no, no, i'm definitely not going to use a third-party repository for something as big and core as OpenOffice, i'll stick with the officially supported version, thanks
[20:49] <lucas> then u wont see what i say
[20:49] <[TiZ]> lucas, come off it.
[20:49] <[TiZ]> It's his choice, let him be.
[20:49] <lucas> Flannel, k... that makes sence
[20:49] <zicho> when i run e"nv | grep dbus" i get no output, but when i run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus start" it says that dbus is already running... can anyone help?
[20:50] <DaddyDave> Im new to Ubuntu and would like to have 1680x1050 again, have a radeon m200 any idea what i need to do?
[20:50] <[TiZ]> DaddyDave: Xpress m200?
[20:50] <DaddyDave> yeah
[20:50] <Skky> oskar-: I need to block FTP from 192.168.20.*.  My command "iptables -a INPUT -s 192.168.20.0/24 -p tcp -j REJECT" does not work
[20:50] <dr_willis> I dident think that little card could go that high. :)
[20:50] <DaddyDave> yeah it worked like a champ with xp
[20:50] <[TiZ]> Me either. I have an Xpress 1150 driving a little 1280x800 display
[20:51] <Doonz2> is there a command that will let me see how fast a file is being transfered from a usb drive onto a raid array?
[20:51] <[TiZ]> DaddyDave: Which version of ubuntu are you trying to run?
[20:51] <DaddyDave> 8.10
[20:51] <n8tuser> Skky-> which interface is it coming from?
[20:51] <ronfleur> tks DR_will I've taken notes; will test some more @+
[20:51] <Lu6cifer> I was installing Ubuntu on my laptop---The partition is there (I checked with gparted), but when I reboot, GRUB is not there. I looked on some help guides, and they told me to type things like, "find /boot/grub/stage1" but all that came up with was "Error 15: file not found" I tried, root (hd0, 5) (the drive/partition that ubuntu is on) but it told that the partition or something doesn't exist.
[20:51] <[TiZ]> Alrighty then... So open drivers aren't giving you 1680x1050?
[20:51] <Lu6cifer> any ideas?
[20:51] <DaddyDave> nope
[20:51] <[TiZ]> You could try fglrx
[20:52] <oskar-> Skky, try a big A: iptables -A ....
[20:52] <[TiZ]> I'm using fglrx now, and I've used open drivers since hardy
[20:52] <[TiZ]> It seems that fglrx is a little nicer to the xpress cards now.
[20:52] <DaddyDave> fglrx? sorry i just installed this for the first time and am not up to speed
[20:52] <Skky> Ops, got it working - need a -I
[20:52] <[TiZ]> Ah, sorry.
[20:53] <[TiZ]> Basically, once you install it, you'll get a little notification that says restricted drivers are available
[20:53] <[TiZ]> That's where you can install "fglrx", the name for ATI's proprietary driver
[20:53] <karname> help me , in 8.10 when i enable visual effect (compiz) and then play a video my video screen start flicking , how can i fix it? (without visual effect i see normal video screen , my graphic card is ati x1400 and i installed fglrx before test it )
[20:53] <paul68> oskar-: hi how are you just a small question when you are running your iptable script from the interfaces file, is there a way that this appears on the screen when booting the server? or is that to much to ask?
[20:53] <amh> is there a way to do a fresh install of 8.10 from command line?  i think i have a corrupt installation and i tried to dist-update but it tells me there is nothing to update.
[20:54] <amh> fresh install without a cd, i should say.  just internet connection
[20:54] <draco1234> [TiZ], DaddyDave, I think it will automatically try to install and activate fglrx if you try to enable desktop effects in the "appearance" settings
[20:54] <dr_willis> amh,  anything else that leads you to think your install is currupted?
[20:54] <[TiZ]> karname: I had a similar problem. I was able to get my video to stop flickering, but it's slower now, and that's what I'm trying to fix now.
[20:54] <Chaylon> hey I am a first time linux user. I am trying to run Ubuntu 8.1 from my USB flash drive...it works but then freezes up after a short time...  while it works, it is like the backgrouns
[20:54] <Semidios> I had just gotten my DVcamcorder to work with skype using dv4lstart skype.  everything was working great.  now I upgraded to intrepid and skype errors out on launch with a "Bus Error".  Any ideas what would fix this?
[20:54] <oskar-> paul68, i use iptables only on gentoo and debian ;) they have better support for it
[20:55] <dr_willis> Hmm.. and here i thought iptables was vitrually identical on all linux disrtos...
[20:55] <Chaylon> is not working correctly, and everytime a tool tip comes up it is distorted and turns the piece of background it covers black
[20:55] <amh> dr_willis: my keyboard and mouse do not work when in gnome.  as far as i've read people with this issue generally have a corrupt install.
[20:55] <DaddyDave> tiz ok yeah i had found the propitery drivers deal and did the fglrx and the highest setting i get is 1280x800
[20:55] <Flannel> amh: You can install it a few ways yes, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation  gives you all sorts of options
[20:55] <[TiZ]> draco1234: It shouldn't in 8.10, if the open drivers give 3d acceleration for your card.
[20:55] <[TiZ]> DaddyDave: Did you have 1680x1050 before installing the proprietary driver?
[20:56] <Chaylon> Anyone?
[20:56] <amh> Flannel: oh, maybe a usbstick is the way.  i tried that already but it wouldnt boot.  i'll check that ink.
[20:56] <excitatory> so i'm a long time KDE user who just switched to gnome when intrepid came out.. I guess overall I am really liking gnome (some gtk apps are just too simple..eh..) but the biggest problem i've come across is there doesn't seem to be a good file manager!  nautilus is decent and so is pcmanfm.. but neither of them support multiple panes!  and please, the tree view is clunky since you cannot see individual files on the left, then drag th
[20:56] <excitatory> em to a folder opened on the right.  if you try to click on the left, it changes the directory on the right!   i thought gnome was about usability..?
[20:56] <Chaylon> it will freeze, cant even open the dvd drives..but the mouse pointer can still be moved..
[20:56] <draco1234> [TiZ], it did for me.... even now, when I turn on desktop effects, it spends about 10 seconds saying "searching for drivers" before it realizes I already have fglrx...
[20:56] <DaddyDave> no it was letting me have 800x600 i think
[20:56] <paul68> oskar-: gentoo is way over my head since you have to compile the kernel from scratch and ubuntu is debian based if I'm correct that is
[20:56] <[TiZ]> draco1234: Something's not right there. What kind of video card do you have?
[20:57] <DaddyDave> the proprietary drive let me go upto 1024x786
[20:57] <billy_> hello
[20:57] <DaddyDave> xpress m200
[20:57] <billy_> im trying to write a simple shell script (just for practise purposes) but this doesnt seem to be working
[20:57] <draco1234> [TiZ], Well, it works fine, but it's a Mobility Radeon X1300
[20:57] <Chaylon> hey I am a first time linux user. I am trying to run Ubuntu 8.1 from my USB flash drive...it works but then freezes up after a short time...  while it works, it is like the background is not working correctly, and everytime a tool tip comes up it is distorted (enlarges part of it) and turns the piece of background it covers black...it will freeze, cant even open the dvd drives..but the mouse pointer can still be moved.. have to manually reset 
[20:58] <[TiZ]> DaddyDave: You seriously only had 800x600 before installing fglrx?
[20:58] <otto_> ...
[20:58] <berobero> hello
[20:58] <billy_> if [$1 -ne 1]; then   echo "HERE";   fi
[20:58] <billy_> can anyone tell me the problem with that?
[20:58] <[TiZ]> draco1234: That's weird. I've installed ubuntu several times on this laptop and not once has it done anything like that to me.
[20:58] <Chaylon> Anyone?
[20:58] <Chaylon> :(
[20:58] <otto_> hi
[20:58] <ardchoille> Is there a gui for tweaking file associations? How do I set which app opens a file upon double-click?
[20:59] <notevol> hello everyone.. I have a question...
[20:59] <[TiZ]> Chaylon: Sounds like a video driver problem.
[20:59] <draco1234> [TiZ], so special effects are enabled, in the "appearance" program on the "visual effects" tab?
[20:59] <evolve_> is it possible to install Damn Small Linux, then use that in order to access my USB drive in order to install ubuntu?
[20:59] <Chaylon> TiZ, thanks for the reply...some of the stuff looks fine, like the 'task bar', and sometimes I can open FireFox..but then it just locks right up..
[20:59] <notevol> I'm running a dual boot on this computer, and i've updated ubuntu to the latest version, and now on the boot screen i get the old version of ubuntu, the new one and windows.. does that mean everytime i update there gona be a new version added to the boot screen where i can boot up from?
[21:00] <evolve_> since damn small linux is bootable from a floppy
[21:00] <Chaylon> TiZ, I have an ATI Radeon X300....
[21:00] <gnutron> billy_: is the bang line correct e.g. #!/bin/bash and is the script end with an .sh extension?
[21:00] <[TiZ]> draco1234: I have custom enabled there, 'cos I installed simple-ccsm. Also, I have fusion-icon installed and in my sessions, so it starts compiz twice. :P
[21:01] <[TiZ]> Chaylon: Do you know which drivers you're using?
[21:01] <StephenF> whats the best way to partition/ RAID a webserver with 4 drives using software RAID, dont care much about speed or size just need redundancy
[21:01] <billy_> gnutron, yeah, i figured it... its because I didnt have spaces between my brackets and numbers/variables, not used to that :\
[21:01] <genii> evolve_: debootstrap would likely work
[21:01] <jin_> firefox keeps asking to restart firefox :(
[21:01] <evolve_> genii i'll check that out
[21:01] <jin_> any one expereincing this problem?
[21:01] <Chaylon> TiZ: I am not dumb, but very novice when it comes to Linux....  lol..  So How can I tell what driver I am using, and where/how can I install a compatible Ubuntu Driver for my ATI Radeon X300?
[21:02] <[TiZ]> Chaylon: Go to System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[21:02] <Vinniecakes> Oh wow
[21:02] <GleepGlop> anyone know how to get AHCI to work with the realtime kernel?
[21:03] <Chaylon> TiZ: the system does not work long enough for me to go to those options (I am on XP machine right now)
[21:03] <gnutron> jin_: try disabling addons in firefox, a reboot  is needed sometimes also to wipe out firefox processes.
[21:03] <[TiZ]> Chaylon: Ack. That's... bad. Well, did the liveCD work well for you?
[21:03] <Chaylon> TiZ: I am using a USB Flash Drive
[21:03] <genii> StephenF: raid5 for 4 drive setup will give most bang for the buck
[21:03] <jin_> gnuskool, what does the Ubuntu addons do?
[21:04] <karname> [TiZ] : my problem solved in #compiz-fusion room : you can run this command :  gstreamer-properties and select X Windows System (No Xv) in video tab
[21:04] <[TiZ]> Chaylon: I mean the Ubuntu live CD that you install from.
[21:04] <[TiZ]> karname: Thanks for that.
[21:04] <gnutron> jin_: i was referring to firefox addons.
[21:04] <Chaylon> Never tried the CD, downloaded from ubuntu.com and formattted it to work off the USB drive
[21:04] <draco1234> Chaylon, if you can get to a terminal, you can see the video driver with "sudo lshw -C display"
[21:04] <Chaylon> ^^TiZ
[21:05] <gnutron> jin_: is a few words, addons are 'bells and whistles' ... cliche
[21:05] <[TiZ]> Chaylon: Download a live CD image, burn it to a CD, and then give it a shot.
[21:05] <jin_> gnutron, I disabled the ubuntu firefox addon and it fixed the problem.
[21:05] <StephenF> genii: how would I handle the boot partition
[21:05] <gnutron> jin_: sweet
[21:05] <[TiZ]> If all works well on it, then use the included tool on the live CD to make a USB startup disk.
[21:06] <[TiZ]> The tool is in System -> Administration
[21:06]  * Mustinet iyi geceler
[21:06] <Chaylon> OK, Thanks TiZ: shouldn't it still have the same driver as the CD I downloaded from the site?
[21:06] <genii> StephenF: Make a small partition at start of each drive which is not in the raid. Use that to have uncompressed /boot
[21:07] <[TiZ]> Chaylon: I don't know. I've never installed Ubuntu to a USB drive.
[21:07] <genii> Work, AFK
[21:07] <StephenF> Ok, i kinda did that except I made that small partition on two drives and created at RAID 1 device for /boot
[21:07] <StephenF> problem is it wont boot, says it cant find md2 which is the RAID 5 device holding root
[21:08] <Chaylon> TiZ: how can I get the proper driver?  any way I can put the driver on the USB drive and install it if I get into ubuntu?
[21:08] <StephenF> does root need to also not be on RAID 5?
[21:08] <sp00nyG> anyone with a (working) mountable vfat partition care to give me their /etc/fstab entry?
[21:09] <gnutron> sp00nyG: /dev/sdb1 /media/LOCAL_DISK vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077 0 0
[21:09] <[TiZ]> Chaylon: The "proper driver" is entirely dependent on your system. For some, it will be the open source driver. For some, it will be fglrx. The liveCD uses the open driver by default. So if the liveCD works, that's what you need to be using. If it doesn't work, then... Well, you'll have to install the proprietary drivers from the command line.
[21:09] <gnutron> sp00nyG: im using hardy, not ntrepid fyi.
[21:10] <Chaylon> How do I bring up the command line?
[21:10] <sp00nyG> gnutron: kthx
[21:10] <dr_willis> !terminal | Chaylon
[21:10] <SimAtWork> anyone find the ubuntu repositories are REALLy slow ??
[21:10] <gnutron> sp00nyG: you're welcome
[21:10] <[TiZ]> dr_willis, no, that's not going to work for him. His video is really messed up right now.
[21:10] <SimAtWork> i'm downloading updtaes..... getting 6495B/s
[21:10] <Chaylon> So If I am not getting into the OS, how do I bring up the command line?  it freezes before I can do anythging
[21:11] <[TiZ]> He'll need to get the drivers while in XP, and then go into recovery mode.
[21:11] <StephenF> how do people normally handle RAID config for a 4 drive web server using software RAID?
[21:11] <PovAddict> Chaylon: you're not "getting into the OS"?
[21:11] <gnutron> Chaylon: open a ternimal or konsole, its in your apps menu
[21:11] <draco1234> Chaylon, you can bring up a command line with alt-ctrl-f1, or alt-ctrl-f2 .... etc
[21:11] <PovAddict> you mean you can't get to the GUI?
[21:11] <SimAtWork> Chaylon: easy way is to use a live cd.
[21:11] <[TiZ]> gnutron: I just said, it's not going to work.
[21:11] <BridgeInhabitant> I'm having some problems setting the owner of some folders and files, can anyone help me?
[21:11] <[TiZ]> His video is messed up! He can't use desktop environments right now.
[21:11] <Datamin>  mein firefox brauch sehr lange um java webanwendungen zu laden (z.b. kleine java games), firefox wird zwischendurch grau, habe ubuntu ist das bei euch auch so ?
[21:11] <Besogon> Chaylon: google help you.
[21:11] <PovAddict> Datamin: english only here
[21:11] <gnutron> [TiZ]: sorry, missed that.
[21:12] <Chaylon> yeah my desktop is fuberd...
[21:12] <[TiZ]> gnutron: s'alright
[21:12] <[TiZ]> H'okay, Chaylon.
[21:12] <oskar-> Datamin, yes, java needs long time until it is ready
[21:12] <BridgeInhabitant> can't anyone help me with setting permissions of a folder?
[21:12] <[TiZ]> Go to ATI's website, where you would normally get windows drivers. But instead, pick linux and follow the boxes to get your stuff. Save it to your usb drive.
[21:12] <gnutron> Datamin: /join #ubuntu-de
[21:12] <n8tuser> BridgeInhabitant-> what is the issue?
[21:13] <Datamin> 	
[21:13] <Datamin> my firefox need very long to load java web applications (eg small java games), firefox is gray in between, had ubuntu is with you as well?
[21:13] <SimAtWork> how can i try to find a faster ubuntu mirror?
[21:13] <draco1234> Chaylon, so does "alt-ctrl-f2" do nothing on the system?
[21:13] <[TiZ]> Then, when you're booting into your ubuntu installation... uh, do you get a menu when you boot your USB drive?
[21:13] <SimAtWork> these download rates are just lame
[21:13] <SimAtWork> it's going to drive me crazy
[21:13] <Datamin> (c) by google translations :D
[21:13] <oskar-> Datamin, it is normal, java needs long time until it is ready :-(
[21:13] <BridgeInhabitant> n8tuser, when I change the owner of the folder in the folder options and then click the apply to sub folders and files but they remain set as root and not my user account
[21:13] <evolve_> oh guys, i'm really stuck...cd will not boot on a dell inspiron 8200 -- when i stick the cd in this computer it prompts me to install so i believe that means its working
[21:13] <magnetron> SimAtWork→ the fastest download rates is what you get using bittorrent download
[21:13] <gnutron> SimAtWork: system - administration - software sources i think.
[21:13] <Chaylon> Yeah, says to install or try running it without installing it.....BUT, I have a USB keyboard and I need to wait the ten seconds for it to default to run...
[21:13] <evolve_> so what the hell can i do?!
[21:14] <Datamin> oskar-, but it are only small games like reversi and i have a quad core
[21:14] <SimAtWork> magnetron: for updates?
[21:14] <SimAtWork> magnetron: how do i configure apt to use torrents?
[21:14] <n8tuser> BridgeInhabitant-> you are logged in as root?  man chown and man chmod
[21:14] <evolve_> boot order is setup properly before someone suggests that
[21:14] <[TiZ]> Chaylon, really? From your USB drive, you get THAT menu? O_o
[21:14] <N6REJ> hey guys, i'm dumb today... i created a user from cli and she can't access lan mail
[21:14] <N6REJ> from a remote client
[21:14] <Chaylon> LOL yeah, its weird..
[21:14] <BridgeInhabitant> n8tuser, yes
[21:14] <N6REJ> on the ame network
[21:14] <oskar-> Datamin, the java virtual machine itself has to be loaded, and it is quite big
[21:14] <N6REJ> any tips?
[21:14] <magnetron> SimAtWork→ no, are you using updates? gnutron's suggestion is right, there is an automatic mirror selector if you go to that window
[21:14] <[TiZ]> That's the Live CD start-up menu. Okay, I know for sure that open drivers are the problem.
[21:14] <BridgeInhabitant> n8tuser, do I have to use the command prompt?
[21:15] <n8tuser> BridgeInhabitant-> use chown command to change ownership
[21:15] <Chaylon> Then it goes to the Ubuntu splash screen with the progress bar
[21:15] <Datamin> oskar-, but in windows it needs a second
[21:15] <BridgeInhabitant> n8tuser, why can't I just use the explorer to do it?
[21:15] <Datamin> oskar-, can i preload the java machine
[21:15] <n8tuser> BridgeInhabitant-> i dont trust the gui, i dont know what options are behind it, so i use command line to be more assured
[21:15] <Chaylon> Yeah, TiZ, basicly what I did....I downloaded the Live CD, and formatted it to run off the USB drive without burning it..
[21:15] <BridgeInhabitant> n8tuser, there's a button but for some reason it doesn't work?
[21:15] <[TiZ]> Oh, so that's how it works.
[21:15] <N6REJ> can anyone help me get mail setup for a user?
[21:15] <oskar-> Datamin, yes, sun seems to have optimized the windows version. i have the same issues :\
[21:16] <Chaylon> yep
[21:16] <Headbanger> Is there someone willing to go one on one to help me out of an installation I cannot boot to because I installed on external I guess
[21:16] <[TiZ]> Well... did you ever enable desktop effects on your usb install?
[21:16] <Datamin> oskar-, but open office loads faster
[21:16] <Datamin> oskar-, there must be a way to optimize it for firefox
[21:16] <Chaylon> Literally didnt do anything but try to get it to work...no setting has been changed from the LiveCD install
[21:16] <oskar-> Datamin, does it use java normally? i don't think so
[21:16] <Headbanger> join #SUSE
[21:16] <gnutron> N6REJ: try installing mutt, and type mutt in a xterm.
[21:17] <oskar-> Datamin, if you find a way to get it faster, let me know
[21:17] <N6REJ> gnutron
[21:17] <gnutron> N6REJ: any cli mua should work
[21:17] <[TiZ]> That is a serious problem. If the open drivers are that messed up for you, and you're tying to run a USB install like a live CD... I'm not sure what to tell you.
[21:17] <N6REJ> gnutron forgot how to answer you directly
[21:17] <N6REJ> *sigh *'m getting old
[21:17] <Datamin> oskar-, that sounds very depressing
[21:17] <stroyan> BridgeInhabitant: Is the folder you are changing on a normal file system like /home, or on something odd like an NTFS filesystem?
[21:17] <N6REJ> anyway i'm on my pc shelled in , she's on a mac on the same network
[21:18] <SimAtWork> oh yes
[21:18] <SimAtWork> much faster now
[21:18] <BridgeInhabitant> stroyan, its in my home folder
[21:18] <SimAtWork> thanks guys
[21:18] <SimAtWork> getting 100kb/sec now
[21:18] <[TiZ]> If you had installed it onto a hard disk partition, I would be able to help you... But I think my limited ability has run out.
[21:18] <[TiZ]> I'm sorry. :(
[21:18] <N6REJ> the mac can see the network, but when she says sign into mail it says she doesn't have account]
[21:18] <gnutron> N6REJ: have her ssh into your machine
[21:18] <Chaylon> its weird tho TiZ, some of the stuff looks normal...its not like a resolution problem, at least I don't think....  the taskbar looks normal, and the menu bar at the top look normal....screen is not flickering or anything, and colors look normal..
[21:18] <jin_> where to put themes so the windows use the same theme when using sudo?
[21:18] <N6REJ> the server?
[21:18] <zicho> when i run e"nv | grep dbus" i get no output, but when i run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus start" it says that dbus is already running... can anyone help?
[21:18] <[TiZ]> But when you actually click stuff? Like the menu bar?
[21:18] <stroyan> BridgeInhabitant: Can you change permissions on normal files in your home folder?
[21:18] <gnutron> N6REJ: wherever her account exists
[21:18] <BridgeInhabitant> stroyan, I ran nautilus as root but when I click change owner then apply to sub folders and files it only applies the new owner to that folder?
[21:19] <oskar-> Datamin, i count it as a typical problem with proprietary software. i hope it gets better as sun now wants to make it open source (or already has)
[21:19] <N6REJ> gnutron: ok we have a "lan server" so i'll try that
[21:19] <N6REJ> one sec
[21:19] <gnutron> N6REJ: that depends on your MTA
[21:19] <N6REJ> gnutron: dovecot & exim4?
[21:19] <Chaylon> the menu opens fine, but I find when I hover over stuff, the tool tips that pop up kinda stay there, and sometimes they dissapear when you hover off them, but they make the background where they were, black.
[21:19] <n8tuser> BridgeInhabitant-> use chown command to change ownership.. you need to start learning the command line.  man chown
[21:19] <BridgeInhabitant> stroyan, I googled the problem and found this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/165113
[21:19] <gnutron> N6REJ: exim4 or postfix i prefer myself
[21:20] <Chaylon> then after between 30sec-2 mins, it completely locks..
[21:20] <[TiZ]> Chaylon: Move fast enough so that tooltips don't appear? :P
[21:20] <Chaylon> but the mouse pointer still moves
[21:20] <paul4605> n8tuser: hi I see people keep you busy here :-) is there to your knowledge a way to show the loading of the iptables when launching them from the interfaces file during boot? the iptable script is also functioning correctly :-)
[21:20] <amh> is there a simple way of installing ubuntu directly from the net at command line?
[21:20] <N6REJ> gnutron: its been so long since i've had ot mess with the server that i've forgotten alot
[21:20] <BridgeInhabitant> stroyan could that be my problem, at first I thought it was unlikely as it is a year old and unlike windows ubuntu seems to get fixed quicker!
[21:20] <N6REJ> gnutron: i think dovecot is the pop server?
[21:20] <Chaylon> TiZ, haha...yeah...  and sometimes if you expand something, it like, blows up a small part of the window to fit the entire screen...so it is all stretched and bluury
[21:20] <gnutron> N6REJ: we all exerience knowledge 'lag' :)
[21:21] <n8tuser> paul4605-> one liners in interfaces file is okay, but not a boatload of them.. did you try calling the script from that file?
[21:21] <Flannel> dovecot can be either pop or imap (or the secure versions of those)
[21:21] <bonhoffer> my external monitor is plugged in now to my eeepc with ubuntu 8.10 -- how do i send the signal to the big monitor -- do i have to do some command-line xrandr deal?
[21:21] <N6REJ> gnutron: hang on
[21:21] <fitztrev> Can anyone recommend a good USB dongle to use?
[21:21] <paul4605> n8tuser: yes and it works however it would have been nice if I see the progress on the screen during bootup
[21:21] <[TiZ]> Since open drivers are so messed up for you, and you're on USB... the only thing I see that you might be able to do is to quickly go to System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers and install fglrx stat. But here's the gotcha, and I forgot about this... if your USB install works _exactly_ like a live CD, it will not keep those changes. So even if you did manage to install fglrx, it would revert to open drivers immediately after rebooting. :(
[21:22] <stroyan> BridgeInhabitant: That defect is still sitting there with "importance- low"
[21:22] <zsquareplusc> gnutron: sshd should accept connections and prompt for the user name in any case. when the password/key is entered it is either logging in or answering with a "wrong password" it is not even giving out any info if the user exists
[21:22] <n8tuser> paul4605-> you can always verify with command  sudo iptables -vL
[21:22] <fitztrev> I mean bluetooth dongle.  Can anyone recommend a good bluetooth dongle to use?
[21:22] <paul4605> n8tuser: true
[21:22] <BridgeInhabitant> stroyan, so it isn't likely to get fixed ever?
[21:22] <zsquareplusc> gnutron: sshd not answering is either because a filer or hosts.deny is inhibiting access
[21:22] <Chaylon> TiZ: ohh, totally understand, that makes sense.....do you know where to get an "official" USB version of Ubuntu?
[21:22] <gnutron> N6REJ: the user must exist or it just drops the connection.
[21:22] <BridgeInhabitant> stroyan, reminds me of good old windows vista bugs :-)
[21:22] <Slart> !usb
[21:22] <n8tuser> paul4605-> or put a -X  on the top of your script like #!/bin/bash -X
[21:23] <[TiZ]> Chaylon: I have no idea on that one. I'm sorry. :(
[21:23] <Spajderix> Hello
[21:23] <[TiZ]> Well, you could try what ubottu just said.
[21:23] <paul4605> n8tuser: ok thanks
[21:23] <zsquareplusc> gnutron: if the difference is if a user is logged in or not, then its the network manager, that only starts connection when one is logged on
[21:23] <Chaylon> TiZ: no worries, thanks for all your help tho!  I will try that
[21:23] <gnutron> zsquareplusc: ok, thanks
[21:23] <amh> how do i force a reinstall of ubuntu 8.10 from command line?
[21:24] <gnutron> zsquareplusc: the required login bites, thats an intrepid thing, noone else does that... yuk!
[21:24] <Datamin> my firefox need very long to load java web applications (eg small java games), firefox is gray in between
[21:24] <[TiZ]> Chaylon: Good luck!
[21:24] <PriceChild> amh: if you want to reinstall, do it the same way you originally installed.
[21:24] <Slart> amh: you might be able to do something like with a clever apt-get line.. but I don't think there is a simple command for it
[21:24] <Datamin> oskar-, in google  i find not much persons with this problem
[21:25] <zsquareplusc> gnutron: its the network setup that is not suitable for servers. it hasnt anything to do with ssh. a web server will have the same issue
[21:25] <amh> PriceChild: im unable to do it via gnome this time as i cannot get my keyboard or mouse to work under gnome.
[21:25] <oskar-> Datamin, how long does it take, until the applet is running?
[21:25] <Dillizar> my camera its not supported by 8.10!!! can any body help me to install drivers or something
[21:25] <Datamin> oskar-, a minute
[21:25] <n8tuser> Datamin-> the webapp server is far? same network?
[21:26] <Datamin> oskar-, and i cant use firefox in this time
[21:26] <gnutron> zsquareplusc: I see, thank you
[21:26] <dual> In which proc file can I find information about my harddrive (capacity, used space etc.)?
[21:26] <BridgeInhabitant> stroyan, is it likely that there is a fix for the permissions bug or will I have to learn the command?
[21:26] <LogicalDash> I just created a new desktop user account, and when I log it in, I get a blank orange screen with a cursor on it--no desktop, and no error message. What's going on?
[21:26] <Spajderix> can anybody help me with bluetooth under ubuntu 8.04 64bit on Asus x50n, I've got bluez installed, bluetooth shows up after lsmod, still when I type hcitool scan I get message No such device
[21:26] <oskar-> Datamin, i tried it with an java applet for irc, firefox is 18 seconds unusable
[21:27] <Dillizar> dual, just right click and properties :D
[21:27] <stroyan> BridgeInhabitant: It is likely to be fixed sometime.  But you should learn the command before that. ;-)
[21:27] <Datamin> oskar-, but that cant be normal, in 18 sec. my pc can boot my virtual windows xp machine
[21:27] <gnutron> zsquareplusc: in your branch of physics what does 'z' stand for. thx in advance /end off-topic.
[21:27] <dual> Dillizar: I'm making a python program, and I want it to show info about my hdd, and then I need it in plain text
[21:27] <oskar-> Datamin, do you use java 1.6 or 1.5? the newer version seemed faster to me
[21:28] <BridgeInhabitant> stroyan, I may switch to another distribution, tbh if it takes this long to fix bugs (and others I've experienced) even for a free OS I may as well try another :-)
[21:28] <BridgeInhabitant> thanks for the help
[21:28] <Datamin> java version "1.6.0_0"
[21:28] <Datamin> IcedTea6 1.3.1 (6b12-0ubuntu6) Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_0-b12)
[21:28] <Datamin> OpenJDK Server VM (build 1.6.0_0-b12, mixed mode)
[21:28] <[TiZ]> I'm trying to play a video in totem with xv, but when I start totem, it says "The video output is in use by another application." How do I find out what application's using it?
[21:28] <imc_> Looking for some ubuntu on macbook help...
[21:28] <Dillizar> dunno bout that dual sorry
[21:28] <imc_> mww still around?
[21:28] <djsiegel1> A bunch of my applications (Firefox, Banshee, apt-get, epiphany) just segfault and crash all the time. I can't consistently reproduce the bug -- sometimes firefox will just segfault over and over when I start it, then I will restart and firefox works! Same with apt-get just now. Do I just have a corrupt low-level library or something?
[21:28] <z0d14k> In rhythmbox, I want to add a podcast that is protected by a password.  If I put the URL of the podcast into firefox, it has the auth box, things work.  The podcast works in amarok, but rhythmbox never asks for password and fails to download podcast.  Any ideas?
[21:28] <rww> imc_: that's rww, and yes, I just got back from lunch :)
[21:29] <zsquareplusc> gnutron: its the usual notation for the mandelbrot set formula. it is an imaginary number (as c is)
[21:29] <dual> Dillizar: Ok, thanks for answering anyway.
[21:29] <imc_> Doh!@
[21:29] <n8tuser> Datamin-> the webapp server is far? same network?
[21:29] <imc_> Sorry
[21:29] <amh> Can anyone assist me?
[21:29] <Dillizar> :P ya welcome dual can you help my problem :P
[21:29] <BlueEagle> dual: hos is your system temperature?
[21:29] <gnutron> zsquareplusc: thanks again.
[21:29] <Guest34521> How can I force ubuntu to search for updated ?
[21:29] <Guest34521> Updates*
[21:29] <dual> Does anyone know which /proc file contains info about my harddrive?
[21:29] <oskar-> Datamin, have you tried "sun-java6-plugin"?
[21:29] <rww> imc_: No problem :). I guess by the fact you came back that you're still having issues?
[21:29] <djsiegel1> dual, you mean /dev file ?
[21:29] <imc_> rww, so I followed thiose instructions, reinstalled with grub on sda, but still I cannot boot unless...this is weird...unless I boot into the CD and then select boot from disk
[21:30] <genii> djsiegel1: Those symptoms sound like ram going bad. PErhaps run memtest on your box for a half day or so
[21:30] <BlueEagle> dual: doo you mean /sys file?
[21:30] <djsiegel1> genii - where can I find info about how to do that?
[21:30] <recon69> ﻿amh: have you tried just using the live cd?
[21:30] <Dillizar> !updates
[21:30] <dual> Maybe maybe. I know I can get memory info from /proc/meminfo, I assumed that there was a hdd file there too
[21:30] <Dillizar> !update
[21:30] <[TiZ]> djsiegel1: It should be in your grub menu.
[21:30] <dual> I'll check the sys and dev files
[21:30] <amh> recon69: i dont have a spare CD.
[21:30] <n8tuser> dual-> cat /sys/block
[21:30] <gnutron> dual: sudo hdparm /dev/sda  for example tells all. use with caution.
[21:30] <djsiegel1> ok, oops -- there goes banshee!
[21:30] <BlueEagle> dual: What information are you looking for?
[21:31] <zsquareplusc> grr, applets are messed up again :/
[21:31] <[TiZ]> I'm trying to play a video in totem with xv, but when I start totem, it says "The video output is in use by another application." How do I find out what application's using it?
[21:31] <amh> recon69: i copied everything to a usb stick.. but it's not very simple installing from a stick.. nor is it guaranteed to work.
[21:31] <genii> djsiegel1: If you hit ESC during grub prompt, you should be able to choose memtest there. If no memtest there to boot to, use the livecd which has it
[21:31] <Dillizar> my camera its not supported by 8.10!!! can any body help me to install drivers or something
[21:31] <gnutron> dual: try df -h
[21:31] <dual> BlueEagle: Total capacity, used storage, free storage etc.
[21:31] <dual> Just simple information
[21:31] <BlueEagle> dual: that's not simple information tbh. :)
[21:31] <recon69> ﻿amh: sorry but dont even own a usb stick
[21:31] <BlueEagle> dual: df -h
[21:32] <BlueEagle> dual: and that's information about partitions you want, not your harddisk.
[21:32] <amh> recon69: is there a way to install from the net?  or force an upgrade?  right now it tells me i already have 8.10 installed and wont go any further.
[21:32] <BlueEagle> Dillizar: It's kind of hard unless you tell us which chipset your webcam is using.
[21:32] <dual> BlueEagle: the df-command pops out different info on my server compared to my desktop computer, which I don't want. Therefore I want a file.
[21:32] <nicodarious> looking for help with software RAID setup.  anyone familiar with dmraid by any chance?
[21:32] <[TiZ]> I'm trying to play a video in totem with xv, but when I start totem, it says "The video output is in use by another application." How do I find out what application's using it?
[21:32] <rww> imc_: hmm. It looks like the problem is that the rEFIt partition probably isn't blessed properly... problem is that you need an OS X installation to do that properly. Honestly, at this point I'd probably install OS X, then follow the instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook#Basic%20instructions
[21:33] <imc_> eEEK
[21:33] <imc_> :)
[21:33] <Dillizar> BlueEagle, how can i found out ?
[21:33] <imc_> Bummer. I thought there was a way to do this without rEFIt using the alt key on boot?
[21:33] <Flannel> amh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation  did that not cover it?
[21:33] <rww> imc_: Yeah, I know, it's not a great answer... you could try posting in the forums (ubuntuforums.org) and see if anyone else can figure out a way to fix it.
[21:33] <BlueEagle> Dillizar: lsusb or lspci
[21:33] <nicodarious> looking for help with software RAID setup.  anyone familiar with dmraid by any chance?
[21:33] <rww> imc_: There should be, but that didn't work when we tried it.
[21:33] <amh> Flannel: there were so many options.  i wasnt sure which one to work with.
[21:34] <imc_> yep - might be best to start a thread on this. . . Bummer. Thanks rww!
[21:34] <amh> Flannel: i'd just like to reinstall.  it seems to difficult.
[21:34] <amh> i dont know why/
[21:34] <rww> imc_: You're welcome! Sorry I couldn't be more helpful...
[21:34] <imc_> IT was though . .
[21:34] <Flannel> amh: They all will work.  They just depend on what you have at your disposal, etc.  That page is all about reinstalling.
[21:34] <imc_> at least I learned a little more. . .
[21:34] <BlueEagle> dual: there are a couple of ways of calculating how much space is used and is free. One is to count inodes used. Another is to count blocks used and a 3rd way is to count actual file size. That's listed in increasing complexity.
[21:34] <rww> imc_: :)
[21:34] <prova> how i serch packet for something  from packet manager  , in terminal??
[21:34] <N6REJ> gnutron: i think i found part of the problem
[21:34] <prova> how i serch packet for something  from packet manager  , with terminal??
[21:34] <Flannel> prova: apt-cache search foo
[21:34] <Dillizar> BlueEagle, Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:0929 Logitech, Inc. Labtec WebCam Pro
[21:35] <BlueEagle> dual: No filesystem I know of files an accurate up-to-the-second report on the free space.
[21:35] <N6REJ> gnutron the server has forgotten who "mail.hallhome.lan" is.
[21:35] <prova> thx+
[21:35] <amh> Flannel: i didnt see anything on reinstalling
[21:35] <Flannel> amh: That entire page is about installing.  Which is identical to reinstalling.
[21:35] <prova> for instsall it?
[21:35] <Flannel> prova: sudo apt-get install package
[21:35] <prova> ok
[21:35] <gnutron> N6REJ: might wanna edit the hosts  file[s]
[21:35] <dual> BlueEagle: What about the system monitor, where does it get it's info from?
[21:35] <BlueEagle> Dillizar: Good. Now you take the name from Logitech and out and paste that into the google search bar and add "linux" at the end and see what you find.
[21:35] <amh> Flannel: is there not a way to force a dist-update?
[21:35] <Dillizar> lol
[21:35] <N6REJ> gnutron: i'm wondering if bind is running
[21:35] <Dillizar> :D
[21:36] <Flannel> amh: What do you mean?
[21:36] <recon69> ﻿amh: if reinstalling is you goal probable easiest to read a book or something till tomorrow and buy a blank CD, if the problem is something more specific maybe you should try fix that problem. if you got a net connection maybe reinstalling gnome might help.
[21:36] <rockyrock> hello folks
[21:36] <steven2> hi.
[21:36] <steven2> whuts up?
[21:36] <BlueEagle> dual: That I do not know. I could download the source and go trough it to figure the exact method it uses tho.
[21:36] <gnutron> N6REJ: if your excepting outside mail, it better be !
[21:36] <BlueEagle> dual: But odds are that I won't. ;)
[21:36] <N6REJ> gnutron: ok the server only handles lan mail... but i have an update....
[21:36] <N6REJ> gnutron she can recieve but not send consistently
[21:37] <amh> flannel:well apt-get dist-upgrade would work well but it says it's already upgraded.  i'd just like to force it to upgrade or something as i think i have a corrupt upgrade.
[21:37] <Dillizar> :D
[21:37] <phoenix_rebearth> my *$grmbl *çà$% system crashed
[21:37] <dual> Hehe, Ok, BlueEagle. The accuracy isn't very important, as long as its +/- 1GB, it should be fine
[21:37] <zyrorl> hey guys, i have a problem with my multimedia keys on my keyboard being incorrectly detected in intrepid, i recall them working correctly in hardy, does anyone know what steps i can take to fix them?
[21:37] <N6REJ> gnutron ok we need to start this from  square one.
[21:37] <amh> recon69:  my exact problem is that my keyboard and mouse do not work in gnome.
[21:37] <gnutron> N6REJ: tail -f /var/log/maillog or some such logfile
[21:38] <Flannel> amh: If its already upgraded, then its up to date.  There's nothing to upgrade.  You mean reinstall those packages?  You'd have to just reinstall all of your packages.  It'd be... not so nice.  But, I guess you could try it.  see --reinstall, and I guess use globbing.
[21:38] <phoenix_rebearth> anybody already crashed with intrepid
[21:38] <phoenix_rebearth> ??
[21:38] <ardchoille> How do I change which app gets opened upon double-clicking on a file? I've been researching for days (too much outdated info on the net), can't believe it's this difficult.
[21:38] <BlueEagle> phoenix_rebearth: A couple of times, but I had a heat sink all cloged up with dust.
[21:38] <recon69> ﻿amh: well then it's a gnome issue and you should try fix that.
[21:39] <n8tuser> ardchoille-> mime type ?
[21:39] <gnutron> ardchoille: use 'preferred applications' its in your system menu i believe
[21:39] <phoenix_rebearth> blueEagle: I haven't got hardware problems, that 's the problem
[21:39] <amh> recon69: where so i begin fixing gnome?
[21:39] <ardchoille> gnuskool: that doesn't take care of *.list files
[21:39] <Flannel> ardchoille: Those are text files, so it'd be gedit
[21:39] <kevin__> Anyone know why the gnome-panel applications icons change when an application is running?
[21:40] <BlueEagle> phoenix_rebearth: Then why did your system crash?
[21:40] <phoenix_rebearth> that's what I'd like to know
[21:40] <ardchoille> Flannel: double-clicking on a *.list file open it in software sources
[21:40] <phoenix_rebearth> It started with a linear pattern on the screen (tested two screens)
[21:40] <ardchoille> Flannel: It's been that way on Hardy and now Intrepid
[21:40] <paul4605> BlueEagle: HI how are you long time no see :-)  I got my iptables and new config all working now :-)
[21:40] <Slart> kevin__: I didn't know they did that.. it happens for all applications? can you take screenshots?
[21:40] <BlueEagle> phoenix_rebearth: Well, what were you doing when the system crashed?
[21:40] <phoenix_rebearth> all of a sudden the system freezes after login in
[21:40] <Flannel> ardchoille: That's new.  Right click it... in one of the menu things theres an "open with" dialog or something.
[21:40] <BlueEagle> paul4605: Been a while. Good to hear. :)
[21:41] <Flannel> ardchoille: I'm on Dapper, so... new to me.
[21:41] <flnhst> ardchoille, right click on the file, click on "properties", the tab "open with" i believe
[21:41] <phoenix_rebearth> BlueEagle: I wanted to log in
[21:41] <stroyan> dual: df and system monitor use statfs() or statfs64() system calls to get free space on filesystems.
[21:41] <BlueEagle> phoenix_rebearth: Did you add yourself to the video group?
[21:41] <recon69> ﻿amh: you using usb keyboard and mouse?
[21:41] <ardchoille> Flannel: yes, and there used to be a "use this option as default" choice, but that choice is gone. There must be a way to change it perm
[21:41] <phoenix_rebearth> I guess it has something to do with the graphical interface
[21:41] <amh> recon69: yes. usb keyboard and mouse
[21:41] <phoenix_rebearth> BlueEagle: nope, should I have
[21:42] <evolve_> will ubuntu install over windows 98?
[21:42] <paul4605> BlueEagle: is there to your knowledge a distro where creative xfi card is easy to configure?
[21:42] <amh> recon69:usb keyboard and mouse worked under 6.06 and 8.04
[21:42] <evolve_> IE, the desktop gui install will run on windows 98
[21:42] <dual> stroyan: Ok, I'll try to customize the output of ds, to fit my needs
[21:42] <BlueEagle> phoenix_rebearth: Only if you want to use accellerated graphics.
[21:42] <phoenix_rebearth> oh no
[21:42] <flnhst> ardchoille, you need to tick the circle next to the application i believe
[21:43] <BlueEagle> paul4605: I do NO support what so ever on any products created by Creative.
[21:43] <phoenix_rebearth> it's just trying out different stuff but no games or graphical stuff
[21:43] <demon_> with what i can open .rpm?
[21:43] <rww> evolve_: Wubi, you mean?
[21:43] <ardchoille> flnhst: there is no circle, it's totally different in Intrepid
[21:43] <recon69> amh: google is you friend look at http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/tags.php?tag=mouse&page=2 and see if any of it apply to you. seem you not the only person to have this problem
[21:43] <BlueEagle> paul4605: ...so even if I did I'd not tell you about it. ;)
[21:43] <flnhst> ardchoille, i have Intrepid. Thats odd.
[21:43] <rww> !rpm | demon_
[21:43] <ra21vi> hi, I have a ubuntu-server installation,which I want to use as Enterprise Search Engine, with opensource search engine.. can someone guide me over that
[21:44] <paul4605> BlueEagle: its a shame that you think like that however I forgive you ;-)
[21:44] <phoenix_rebearth> blueEagle, is there a logfile that I could use to see any troubles
[21:44] <ardchoille> flnhst: you have a circle?
[21:44] <BlueEagle> phoenix_rebearth: /var/log/X* would be a good place to start.
[21:44] <wigren> Hi, Can any one help with an ssh issue?
[21:44] <flnhst> ardchoille, yes, when i click on it, the app selected becomes the default app
[21:44] <evolve_> rww: no i mean the 8.10 desktop iso, when i insert it into a windowx xp machine it prompts to full install
[21:44] <evolve_> i was wondering if that would happen on windows 98 as well
[21:44] <ra21vi> wigren: write the issue
[21:44] <demon_> rww, but alien convert the rpm in to deb right
[21:44] <phoenix_rebearth> I'll log of and put my hdd of the other computer as slaveµ
[21:44] <phoenix_rebearth> thx
[21:45] <ardchoille> flnhst: doesn't work that way here
[21:45] <Sierradump> What are some good/fun apps that I should install on a fresh Ubuntu install?
[21:45] <BlueEagle> !anyone | wigren
[21:45] <kevin__> Slart: http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/5629/screenshoteo9.png
[21:45] <ra21vi> demon_: alien has option to convert it in many packages, .deb, tar.gz etc
[21:45] <amh> recon69: i've tried those fixes and none worked.  i saw one person say he reinstalled ubuntu and it was fine as he had a corrupt install.  this is why im looking to reinstall.
[21:45] <paul4605> BlueEagle: well I am off to bed take care my friend see you arround the next time
[21:45] <ardchoille> !alien
[21:45] <BlueEagle> paul4605: Have a good one.
[21:45] <Semidios> I had just gotten my DVcamcorder to work with skype using dv4lstart skype.  everything was working great.  now I upgraded to intrepid and skype errors out on launch with a "Bus Error".  seems to be pulse audio related.  any ideas how to fix this?
[21:45] <rww> evolve_: you mean, when you put an Ubuntu CD into a computer while Windows is running, a program pops up giving you the option to install? That's Wubi, and yes, it'll work on win98.
[21:46] <rww> demon_: Yes, but as the factoid said, it's a Bad Idea
[21:46] <wigren> ra21vi: DynDNS says port 22 is open and accepting connections but when I try ssh in I get: ssh: connect to host _ipaddress_ port 22: Connection refused
[21:46] <evolve_> oh, did not realize wubi was that gui, thanks rww
[21:46] <gnutron> Sierradump: googlearth is cool, very cpu intensive.
[21:46] <rww> demon_: what software do you want to install? there'll probably be an Ubuntu package for it somewhere
[21:46] <Slart> kevin__: it's not just changing to the favicon for the current website?
[21:46] <Slart> kevin__: I've never used iceweasel so I don't know what it looks like by default
[21:46] <demon_> nope i cant find it rww
[21:46] <gnutron> Sierradump: correction, googleearth
[21:47] <ra21vi> wigren: are you using Ubuntu <version>
[21:47] <kevin__> Slart: It's all my applications.
[21:47] <stroyan> wigren: Does "netstat -tan" output include " 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*" ?
[21:47] <wigren> ra21vi: Yes, 8.04
[21:47] <kevin__> Slart: It will load the icon theme I use very briefly, and then change to the system default.
[21:47] <gnutron> wigren: try ssh -l login-name ip-address
[21:48] <Takuya> So can someone help me with booting Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro?
[21:48] <ra21vi> ok, you can install nmap , then use sudo nmap <yourGlobalIPAddr> -p1-25
[21:48] <Slart> kevin__: hmm.. no idea why it would do that.. sorry
[21:48] <flnhst> ardchoille, you do not see this: http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20081128224655435x406scir2.png
[21:48] <ra21vi> and if you didnt have that IP mapped to your hostname in /etc/hosts, you can try ssh username@IPADDR
[21:49] <kevin__> Slart: It's ok.
[21:49] <zsquareplusc> gnutron: wow, they dont have it with documentation.. hard to find.. but see here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+question/48283
[21:49] <demon_> how can i install new gspcav drivers??
[21:49] <ra21vi> and see if same error comes ... check the /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[21:49] <gnutron> zsquareplusc: roger, thanks.
[21:49] <gerincom> pessoal de língua portuguesa? está ai alguém?
[21:49] <zsquareplusc> !pt
[21:50] <Sierradump> Gnutron:  I like google earth!  Good reccomendation!
[21:50] <wigren> stroyan: Yes, it shows up as tcp        0      0 10.122.10.4:36213       10.122.10.3:22          ESTABLISHED
[21:50] <wigren> gnutron: still refused
[21:50] <gerincom> ok, obrigado.
[21:50] <zyrorl> hey guys, i have a problem with my multimedia keys on my keyboard being incorrectly detected in intrepid, i recall them working correctly in hardy, does anyone know what steps i can take to fix them?
[21:50] <ra21vi> anyone here worked on Enterprise class Search Engine , like SOlr /Lucene etc
[21:50] <gnutron> wigren: are you sure the account exists?
[21:50] <ardchoille> flnhst: no, where did you get that from?
[21:50]  * rww sighs
[21:51] <recon69> ﻿amh: takes me back to my first suggestion, you can buy a CD tomorrow for like 50p and do something more fun with you time tonight :)
[21:51] <Sierradump> If I want to setup a Virtual machine on my Ubuntu 8.10 install, what is the best program to do that?  I am coming from windows and am used to VMWare Workstation (or Server)...  Whats the most popular or best Virtualization application for Linux???
[21:51] <N6REJ> gnutron: apparently dovecot is rejecting users
[21:51] <ra21vi> I need to find out what would be best search engine for my organisation need
[21:51] <flnhst> ardchoille, right from my screen 5 mins ago
[21:51] <gnutron> wigren: are you sure the remote host is listening, i.e. sshd is running
[21:51] <N6REJ> gnutron: does dovecot have its own user base?
[21:51] <wigren> gnutron: Yeah, I'm logged in. And it says my IP address is open and taking connections
[21:51] <genii> Sierradump: There is also vmware for linux
[21:51] <zsquareplusc> Sierradump: there is also vmware. i use virtualbox as its easy to use
[21:51] <gnutron> N6REJ: never used dovecot
[21:51] <ardchoille> flnhst: how exactly did you get that to popup?
[21:51] <flnhst> ardchoille, its from the file properties
[21:51] <N6REJ> gnutron: does exim4 does both send and receive?
[21:51] <gnutron> N6REJ: i would assume is does.
[21:51] <wigren> gnutron: Yes. I'm logged in locally, from my laptop to my desktop
[21:51] <zsquareplusc> Sierradump: qemu, kvm, xen, depending on your needs
[21:51] <rww> wigren, everyone helping wigren: sshd "connection refused" is not caused by an incorrect user. If you try to connect to sshd with a user that doesn't exist, it will happily take a username and password and then tell you that login failed. It won't, unless you're doing something weird, say connection refused.
[21:51] <amh> recon69: but all my music is on this machine!  i knew i shouldnt have upgraded.  i was told 8.10 works well with wireless.
[21:52] <Sierradump> genii / zsquareplusc:  is VMWare good on Linux or should I try virtualbox or xen or some of the others???
[21:52] <ardchoille> flnhst: ok, got it, I have been looking in the wrong place
[21:52] <ardchoille> flnhst: Thank you very much
[21:52] <Mardenen> nice
[21:52] <zsquareplusc> Sierradump: never used it myself
[21:52] <flnhst> ardchoille, np :)
[21:52] <stroyan> wigren: That netstat output is from an outbound ssh, not the inbound side.  If you don't see the '0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*' line on the system you are trying to connect to then it is not listening for ssh.
[21:53] <Anon6241> TiZ, ya here?  lol...
[21:53] <Mardenen> I am first tiem using 64 bit system, and its Linux Ubuntu, its pretty cool
[21:53] <gnutron> N6REJ: postfix does, not sure of exim4. but it should if configured to do so.
[21:53] <Sierradump> Looking for something sort of like FUSION for the Mac... People use Fusion on their Mac to setup an XP or Linux machine......   Which application would get me something like that?
[21:53] <genii> Sierradump: For me vmware on linux works well. I have a few 64bit XP vm's set up for instance
[21:53] <N6REJ> gnutron: care to hold my hand through mail rebuild?
[21:53] <zyrorl> does anyone know why ubuntu picks up my keyboard keys for say the stop button instead of XF86Stop it picks it up as XF86LowerVolume
[21:53] <zyrorl> ?
[21:53] <zsquareplusc> stroyan, wigrenit probably shows up as ssh in netstat unless you use netstat -ln
[21:53] <vbman11> does any one know how to enable MPX?
[21:53] <Sierradump> genii: you running ubuntu 64bit (I am too)
[21:53] <zyrorl> there's a couple others that come up wrong
[21:53] <N6REJ> gnutron: idc what MTA as long as the dumb things works!
[21:53] <N6REJ> lol
[21:54] <Mardenen> I still dont have harddrives, so I am just testing systems =)
[21:54] <genii> Sierradump: Yes, my cpu is a core2
[21:54] <[TiZ]> I can't use xvideo. Totem says that the video output is in use. How do I fix this?
[21:54] <wigren> stroyan: Where should I go from here? I know I can ssh in locally. Maybe I don't have the ports forwarded correctly?
[21:54] <gnutron> N6REJ: i would recommend the freenode channel for your MTA, thats a heddy subject.
[21:54] <stroyan> zsquareplusc: He used "netstat -tan" as asked to.
[21:54] <N6REJ> kk
[21:54] <Mardenen> I use now Phenom quad core AAMD 2600 MHz system at this
[21:54] <N6REJ> tyvm
[21:54] <zsquareplusc> stroyan: ok
[21:54] <Sierradump> genii: i have crappy turion single core 2.0ghz... BUT i ordered a new TL-60 that should pop in and get me dual core 64bit 2.0ghz... (this is a laptop)
[21:54] <stroyan> wigren: You probably need "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[21:55] <gnutron> intrepid sure seems to have alot of ssh issues.
[21:55] <[TiZ]> I can't use xvideo. Totem says that the video output is in use. How do I fix this?
[21:55] <amh> is it worth trying to install KDE or soemthing?
[21:55] <rww> gnutron: not for me... I did sudo apt-get install openssh-server and it worked out of the box. I'm using it now, in fact...
[21:55] <Sierradump> What is that GEARS program I  hear everyone talking about?  Can I try that on my laptop to get an idea of how my video card is performing????
[21:55] <matteo_> hi all, anyone remember how to set on a printf (in c language) the number of numbers after and before the float? thx alot
[21:55] <genii> Sierradump: At any rate, vmware works well for me on 64 bit. There is also a channel here on freenode which to ask questions in about ti
[21:55] <zsquareplusc> gnutron: same here, no issues
[21:55] <Guest74932> I'm having some trouble with dvd playback in ubuntu 8.10.  I can play dvd's i burned from .iso's of dvd's but i cant play normal dvd's
[21:55] <rww> gnutron: 90% of SSHd issues are caused by not opening ports in a firewall or not forwarding ports, or something else that isn't the sshd's fault
[21:55] <gnutron> rww: im on hardy, but yes, it's usually a piece of cake.
[21:56] <[T]ank> I just did an install from the live cd. The machine has two eth ports. ubuntu labeled them as eth3 and eth4. Is there a way to change that to make them eth 0 and eth1?
[21:56] <genii> Sierradump: At any rate, vmware works well for me on 64 bit. There is also a channel here on freenode which to ask questions in about it
[21:56] <genii> Bah sorry about dbl post
[21:56] <Sierradump> genii: thanks!  do you know the channel name???
[21:56] <gnutron> rww: i'll agree with that dor sure.
[21:56] <amh> how do i start KDE from command line?
[21:57] <Guest74932> I'm having some trouble with dvd playback in ubuntu 8.10.  It says there is no media on disk.  Anyone know how to fix this?
[21:57] <j0nr> anyone know why i get java error "wrong name" when trying to use tightvnc java viewer?
[21:57] <genii> Sierradump:  #vmware    of course :)
[21:57] <wigren> stroyan: openssh-server is already the newest version. I can use ssh just fine over the LAN
[21:57] <jimmy__> how do i use games on here
[21:58] <zsquareplusc> wigren: ISP bloling port 22? there are some nasty ISP that do that
[21:58] <rww> wigren: then there's a router somewhere between you and the internet that's not port forwarding properly.
[21:58] <Sierradump> genii: thanks for heads up!  heading over there now!
[21:58] <zsquareplusc> wigren: that should have read "blocking"
[21:58] <stroyan> wigren: So you are trying to get in from the internet through a route/modem?  Have you set the router to forward port 22 to your desktop system that is running sshd?
[22:00] <rockyrock> what's wrong the nvidia??? My 8500GT doesn't work well!!! I use the nvidia driver, i tried all available drivers: glx-new, envy and nvidia's website driver. When i move a window fast, i see shadows. Any suggestions please????
[22:00] <Guest74932> I'm having some trouble with dvd playback in ubuntu 8.10.  It says there is no media on disk. I can play dvd's ive burned.  Anyone know how to fix this?
[22:00] <wigren> stroyan: Yes, I'm sorry. I should have been more clear. The IP address of the  desktop I want to connect to ends in 3. I have port 22 forwarded to 192.168.0.3 on both tcp and udp.
[22:01] <dcherniv> rockyrock, you're doing something wrong, works just fine here. open terminal type glxinfo | grep direct. what does it say?
[22:01] <rww> I think I've been reading too much of rms' literature... every time someone complains in here about their proprietary drivers i have to bite my tongue >.>
[22:01] <zsquareplusc> wigren: try to run ssh on an other port (and forward that too) like 22022
[22:02] <user___> rww: you are not the only one :-)
[22:02] <draco1234> Guest74932, yeah, did you install libdvdcss2?
[22:02] <macjason0607> guys since i can't use itunes what can i use for ubuntu
[22:02] <N-A> I have some problems with mount/umount on a certain partition, i won't let me mount/umount except as root. I have several other partitions that I can mount and umount as user
[22:02] <stroyan> wigren: Does "sudo iptables -L" show any rules that would exclude connections from outside of the LAN?
[22:02] <Sierradump> Where is the ubuntu wiki where I can search about how to set my sound settings?  They didn't auto work upon install... I tweaked them and got it working but I don't think they are perfect!
[22:02] <rww> !itunes | macjason0607: as has been mentioned already
[22:02] <rww> !players | macjason0607
[22:02] <rww> !ipod | macjason0607
[22:03] <russ> I installed an update this morning now my audio is not working
[22:03] <rockyrock> ﻿dcherniv: the output is: direct rendering: Yes
[22:03] <Guest74932> draco1234: yea i d
[22:03] <Guest74932> draco1234: and css3 and a few other
[22:04] <zicho> im having som difficulties with dbus. when i run e"nv | grep dbus" i get no output, but when i run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus start" it says that dbus is already running, how can i fix it?
[22:04] <draco1234> Guest74932, so just to make sure, if you type "sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2" in a terminal, it says ......?
[22:04] <rockyrock> Guys, one guy was helping me with my graphics card problem and he left, can somebody help me instead plzzzzzzz
[22:04] <macjason0607> so out of all of those <scripts that you just gave me > what do you think the best one is
[22:04] <wigren> stroyan: No, and I set up firestarter to allow SSH
[22:04] <rww> !best | macjason0607
[22:05] <Guest74932> draco1234: 0 upgraded, 0 installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[22:05] <macjason0607> rww in your opinion
[22:05] <rww> macjason0607: personally, I use Rhythmbox, because I'm lazy, and it's the default.
[22:05] <macjason0607> thankks
[22:05] <macjason0607> thanks*
[22:05] <rww> macjason0607: They're all free. Install a bunch and see which one you like =/
[22:05] <Guest74932> draco1234: when i installed libdvd it let me play a dvd i burned from a .iso
[22:05] <rockyrock> this is my problem: ﻿what's wrong with nvidia??? My 8500GT doesn't work well!!! I use the nvidia driver, i tried all available drivers: glx-new, envy and nvidia's website driver. When i move a window fast, i see shadows. Any suggestions please????..........and this is what that guy said: ﻿dcherniv: rockyrock, you're doing something wrong, works just fine here. open terminal type glxinfo | grep direct. what does it say?..........and this is the outp
[22:05] <Guest74932> draco1234: it just wont let me play normal dvd films
[22:06] <Guest79694> vlc player done from terminal ,best one found yet. just installed ubunti 8 this week. kool!
[22:06] <rww> zicho: was `` e"nv `` a typo? I'm not familiar with that command...
[22:06] <draco1234> Guest74932, ok, now how about "sudo apt-get install vlc" ?
[22:06] <Guest74932> i have vlc
[22:06] <draco1234> Guest74932, vlc player always works the best
[22:06] <alec868> is there an applet out there i can use to manage fan speed in 8.10?
[22:06] <Guest74932> draco1234: i have vlc
[22:06] <Guest74932> draco1234: ive been using it for years
[22:07] <draco1234> Guest74932, ok, did you try using vlc for opening the dvd?
[22:07] <sinan> What can i put in ".rtorrent.rc" to stop downloads after 10PM ?
[22:07] <wigren> stroyan: I forwarded 22022 but I still get Connection refused. It took a lot longer this time to spit that out though
[22:07] <stroyan> wigren: You could use "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop; sudo /usr/sbin/sshd -d" to run sshd in debug mode.  It will be very verbose about what it is doing.
[22:07] <Guest74932> draco1234: yea, i have it set as the default program
[22:07] <rww> zicho: if you meant "env", that isn't supposed to have any dbus lines in it, I think (my dbus works fine and env has nothing about dbus in it, anyway)
[22:07] <zicho> rww, it should be "env"
[22:07] <LoK|To> hello
[22:07] <zicho> so why do you think that dbus is not working?
[22:07] <draco1234> Guest74932, so if a disc is in, and you go to vlc and open the disc, what does it say?
[22:07] <rww> zicho: try ps -AH | grep dbus
[22:08] <zsquareplusc> wigren: you used ssh -p 22022 to connect and edited the servers config (alternatively let your router forward external 22022 to internal 22)
[22:08] <N-A> I have some problems with mount/umount on a certain partition, it won't let me mount/umount except as root. I have several other partitions that I can mount and umount as user. I would like some help to figure out why this specific partition is behaving differently?
[22:08] <Guest74932> draco1234: it doesnt say anything, vlc opens and it just stays gray, no video
[22:08] <recon69> amh: after look around i can only suggest "sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop"
[22:08] <zicho> rww, i have both launch and daemon there
[22:08] <rww> zicho: iono, are you having dbus problems? if so, what errors are you getting?
[22:08] <zsquareplusc> N-A: an entry in fsatb? to allow users, "user" has to be there in the options
[22:08] <draco1234> Guest74932, but vlc works on other files?
[22:08] <Guest74932> draco1234: when i try "movie player" or "th"thoggen" or "brasero" it says "no media on disk
[22:08] <zicho> rww, "Unhandled Exception: System.Exception: Unable to open the session message bus."
[22:08] <gnutron> Guest74932: try video0 in vlc, see if it sees that.
[22:08] <zicho> when i try to run banshee
[22:09] <Guest74932> draco1234: vlc sees it
[22:09] <N-A> zsquareplusc: It isn't but it isn't there for any of the other partitions either?
[22:09] <Guest74932> draco1234: just when it tries to play it wont play
[22:09] <stroyan> wigren: And of course- When you are messing around with stopping and starting sshd it is best to be sitting at the machine so you have a reliable way to put everything back. ;-)
[22:09] <Guest74932> draco1234: vlc works great for everything else
[22:09] <gnutron> Guest74932: nevermind, mis-understood your problem, sounds like a codec issue possibly.
[22:10] <Guest74932> gnutron: yea, i thought so too but ive never had this problem before in ubuntu
[22:10] <zsquareplusc> N-A: partitions get mounted on startup, unless they are marked as noauto. so a common setting is "default,noauto,user"
[22:10] <Guest74932> gnutron: it plays dvd's burned from .isos of dvds just not dvds
[22:10] <wigren> stroyan: Yeah I think I'll have to try some stuff out. Thanks to all of you for the good ideas.
[22:10] <rww> zicho: open a terminal and try dbus-launch banshee
[22:10] <N-A> zsquareplusc: It's mounted at startup via fstab fine, but I can't unmount it like I can unmount the rest
[22:10] <RAV6> anyone know of any tutorials to install ubuntu onto a thumb drive?
[22:11] <N-A> zsquareplusc: It's via fuse/ntfs-3g
[22:11] <draco1234> RAV6, using ubuntu 8.10?
[22:11] <N-A> zsquareplusc: And I'm guessing I'm a member of the fuse user group
[22:11] <RAV6> yeah
[22:11] <RAV6> 8.10
[22:11] <zicho> rww, i have banshee already running using that command, but the problem is that i cant control it remotely with example "banshee --pause"
[22:11] <draco1234> RAV6, can't you just click on system>>administration>>create a usb disc
[22:11] <RAV6> i got this 16GB thumb drive and i want to be able to carry my OS around with me now
[22:11] <zyrorl> anyone here knows anything about configuring keyboards in ubuntu ?
[22:12] <rww> !usb | RAV6
[22:12] <Lisa1> so I installed ubuntu and told it not to install a boot loader, big mistake I suppose, it did not boot, then I tried to reinstall ubuntu however the installation just gets stuck when at the very first menu where I tell it to "install"... to summerize I have installed on my hdd ubuntu that wont boot and the installation cd wont run... what do I do?
[22:12] <zsquareplusc> N-A: "groups" lists the groups you are in
[22:12] <demon_> how can i found out what is my webcam model?
[22:12] <rww> RAV6, draco1234: I tried that app the other day and it didn't work for me =/
[22:12] <zicho> rww, my "echo $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS" gives me nothing though
[22:13] <draco1234> Guest74932, any chance it's a defective dvd?
[22:13] <gnutron> demon_: in a terminal type lspci -v or lsusb -v  you should see it.
[22:13] <rww> zicho: does it persist after a restart? there's a launchpad bug that looks similar that got cleared up after a restart
[22:13] <N-A> zsquareplusc: Well I'm not apparently maybe I misunderstood the whole point of the fuse group, maybe fuse is for fuse to have elevated priveliges?
[22:13] <RAV6> i need to be able to do it without the Live CD because my cd drive is dead
[22:13] <rww> zicho: you could also try "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" i guess
[22:13] <zicho> rww, i rebooted earlier, still the same error
[22:14] <rww> zicho: hmm
[22:14] <N-A> zsquareplusc: Anywho, it doesn't work the same as the other partitions, in spite of having the same fstab options, and same permisions set (both /dev... and mount point)
[22:14] <roachy> q
[22:15] <macjason0607> guys every time i log in and mount my windows partition all the time .. is there a way to automount it on boot ?
[22:15] <macjason0607> do i look in fstab ?
[22:15] <PriceChild> !fstab | macjason0607
[22:15] <Pretto> macjason0607, put it in your /etc/fstab
[22:15] <draco1234> RAV6, you don't need a CD drive, just the live CD image. It's just  700mb file that ends in .iso
[22:15] <N-A> !partitions
[22:15] <macjason0607> fstab right ?
[22:15] <zsquareplusc> N-A: hm. so the difference is that fuse is used for this one and not for the others
[22:16] <mrpockets> I jsut changed which server hosts SSH on my network
[22:16] <oneiroiii> Hey all.
[22:16] <mrpockets> now SSH thinks something sheisty is up
[22:16] <rww> zicho: i have no idea, then. Try asking in #dbus maybe?
[22:16] <gnutron> macjason0607: you may try installing the NTFS configuration tool
[22:16] <N-A> zsquareplusc: No they're all ntfs partitions and all use ntfs-3g (and ntfs-3g uses fuse)
[22:16] <mrpockets> how do i reset or change the known hosts in SSH?
[22:16] <oneiroiii> mrpockets: There's a dot file in the users home directory
[22:16] <rww> mrpockets: delete .ssh/known_hosts, if i remember correctly
[22:16] <rww> mrpockets: it's some file in ~/.ssh, anyway
[22:16] <zsquareplusc> mrpockets: yes, like a new server host key. you need to remove the old key in your clients  ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[22:17] <zicho> rww, i think i have it figured out. I run fluxbox, and there in lies the matter. it doesnt connect to dbus automaticcaly
[22:17] <oneiroiii> So, anyone have any ideas as to what's up with OOo 3?
[22:17] <mrpockets> zsquareplusc fond it
[22:17] <NET||abuse> hi all, anyone an audacity head here?
[22:17] <roachy> mrpockets: sudo nano ~/.ssh/known_hosts and remove the line for the server
[22:17] <mrpockets> ~/ = home folder?
[22:18] <NET||abuse> i'm trying to recover the far side of a recorded phone call
[22:18] <roachy> mrpockets: thats right :)
[22:18] <rww> oneiroiii: it wasn't included in intrepid because of time restrictions. it'll probably end up in intrepid-backports eventually. there's an unofficial PPA that has it that I can dig up if you'd like.
[22:18] <zsquareplusc> mrpockets: yes, its a shortcut in the shell
[22:18] <NET||abuse> far side of the conversation is really quite, too quite to hear,
[22:18] <RAV6> can i install it onto the thumb drive without the Live CD?
[22:18] <macjason0607> ./dev/sda1   /media/windows ntfs-fuse auto,gid=1002,umask=0002 0 0
[22:18] <mrpockets> got it
[22:18] <jordo2323> If I added a mount point to a second HD in Gnome, and it contained an invalid character what do I do?  I am getting an error it can't mount the drive.  I don't think it modified /etc/fstab cause the file is the same, but I can't get out of the situation cause I cannot pull up the properties of the unmounted HD in Gnome....
[22:18] <LF|Irssi> What's the command to see connected devices for like external hdd's or CD ROMS?
[22:19] <zsquareplusc> N-A: do you get an error when unmounting? like that a file is still in use?
[22:19] <draco1234> RAV6, yes, you don't need a live cd, you just need the live cd image file
[22:19] <forcumang> whats a good text editor for C/C++/ editing?
[22:19] <almostdvs> how do i import a new sound theme?
[22:19] <oneiroiii> forcumang: Komodo
[22:19] <RAV6> ok, i'll try and figure it out
[22:20] <N-A> zsquareplusc: Only root can unmount /dev/... from /mount/point
[22:20] <rww> oneiroiii: aanndd, looks like that PPA is offline right now, so ignore the PPA bit :)
[22:20] <LF|Irssi> What's the command to see connected devices for like external hdd's or CD ROMS?
[22:20] <rww> LF|Irssi: Not sure what you mean... do you mean mount?
[22:20] <forcumang> oneiroiii: that's not in repos, there an official link?
[22:20] <lavacano201014> zsquareplusc-\ Then use sudo to umount it
[22:20] <lavacano201014> er
[22:20] <oneiroiii> Oh, LOL
[22:20] <forcumang> :p
[22:20] <LF|Irssi> rww yeah i need to know the devices name though for my usb external hdd and cdrom
[22:20] <macjason0607> anyone get that ?
[22:20] <draco1234> RAV6, the cd image is here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/intrepid/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[22:20] <lavacano201014> N-A-\ Use sudo umount /dev/device
[22:20] <zsquareplusc> LF|Irssi: i dont know what exactly you mean. dmsg and lsusb what i usually use
[22:21] <N-A> lavacano201014: Yes well, My problem ^^ "I can't umount a specific partition as user only as root" ;-)
[22:21] <LF|Irssi> lol um i cant be more clearer, i need to know the cli command to list all my usb connected devices
[22:21] <oneiroiii> rww: I missed the first half of that.  Yeah, the problem is I got the repo, installed it, and it would NOT open for anything.  Kept crashing out.  So I removed it, disabled the extra repos, now synaptic won't let me install the previous version of OOo
[22:22] <LF|Irssi> ill try the lsusb one zsquareplusc thanks
[22:22] <zsquareplusc> LF|Irssi: now if you restrict the question to USB, then lsusb is your friend
[22:22] <chupy> does anyone knows how to install flash player in flock??
[22:22] <rww> oneiroiii: did you do an apt-get update after removing the extra repo?
[22:22] <oneiroiii> rww: Yeah, a few times
[22:22] <lavacano201014> I think if you add the "users" option to it's /etc/fstab, it'll work
[22:22] <zsquareplusc> LF|Irssi: i though you wanted a command for eSATA, USB and firewire all at once
[22:22] <lavacano201014> Er, it's entry in /etc/fstab
[22:23] <russ> is there a way to "see" what your last update was?
[22:23] <N-A> lavacano201014: But why would it be necesary for one partition but not for others?
[22:23] <lavacano201014> N-A-\ I have no idea.
[22:23] <rww> russ: apt log is in /var/log/apt/term.log
[22:23] <rww> russ: that might have what you want
[22:23] <malibu> I'm in the process of creating a big FAT volume group.. Two 1 TB drives mirrored.  What's the best filesystem to use for the LVs?
[22:23] <russ> rww: thx
[22:24] <zsquareplusc> LF|Irssi: lsusb -v |less
[22:24] <forcumang> oneiroiii: should i get 4.0?
[22:24] <malibu> lol.. not FAT as in windows.  FAT as in BIG
[22:24] <malibu> (just thought I should clarify!)
[22:24] <rww> oneiroiii: hmm. Open up synaptic and go to the Status tab and see if there's any oo.org packages in the (residual config) section
[22:24] <flacom> hello, waht would be the easy way to mount an FTP in nautilus?
[22:24] <rww> oneiroiii: (I'm not at an ubuntu PC right now, so some of the terminology might be wrong...)
[22:24] <forcumang> well usually 'FAT' with all capitals refers to FAT file system.. you should lowercase fat if you mean fat ass :P
[22:24] <almostdvs> how do i import a new sound theme?
[22:25] <draco1234> flacom: click file>>connect to server?
[22:25] <gnutron> malibu: i've always used ext3 with all linux distro's, no problems.
[22:25] <lavacano201014> flacom-\ There's a "Connect to share" applet for panel you can use
[22:25] <jordo2323> If I added a mount point to a second HD in Gnome, and it contained an invalid character what do I do?  I am getting an error it can't mount the drive.  I don't think it modified /etc/fstab cause the file is the same, but I can't get out of the situation cause I cannot pull up the properties of the unmounted HD in Gnome....
[22:25] <flacom> draco1234: :O
[22:25] <zsquareplusc> flacom: just use an ftp:// URL in the address field. or alternatively systm->connect to server
[22:25] <flacom> draco1234: I didn't know
[22:25] <malibu> gnutron: That what I always use too... So there isn't anything better yet?
[22:25] <kd7swh> I keep having problems with pulseaudio conflicting with multiple applications what is the easiest way to restart the pulseaudio daemon "correctly"
[22:25] <malibu> gnutron: I want to be able to resize at will, of course
[22:25] <gnutron> malibu: thats debateable, i'll stick with ext3
[22:25] <russ> rww: it says that I dont have permission to open it
[22:26] <rww> russ: gksudo gedit /var/log/apt/term.log
[22:26] <kd7swh> "killall pulseaudio, pulseaudio" doesn't restart the daemon
[22:26] <rww> russ: or sudo nano /var/log/apt/term.log, if you're command-line-only
[22:26] <hololight> If I have an older laptop (say a PIII or P4), will the ubu netbook remix run faster than the std?
[22:26] <gnutron> jordo2323: change the mount point and change /etc/fstab to correspond.
[22:26] <malibu> gnutron: Lol... ok yes I've always been happy with ext3 as well.  Thanks, I will stay with it
[22:27] <forcumang> kd7swh: check your init.d folder for a pulseaudio file
[22:27] <forcumang> 'dir /etc/init.d'
[22:27] <jordo2323> gnuskool, My fstab is unchanged and I can't get into the properties of the drive in gnome to change it back....
[22:27] <mhr3> hi there, can someone help me with ipw2200 wireless on intrepid, it doesn't work half the time even when I'm connecting to security-disabled network
[22:27] <jordo2323> gnutron:  My fstab is unchanged and I can't get into the properties of the drive in gnome to change it back....
[22:27] <jordo2323> gnuskool, sorry...wrong person
[22:27] <rww> hololight: consider xubuntu rather than the netbook remix. The Netbook Remix is optimized for new Intel Atom processors. Xubuntu is "optimized" for slower hardware.
[22:28] <oneiroiii> rww: There were some in obsolete, and some in residual - eliminating them seems to have done the trick
[22:28] <kd7swh> forcumang: good call
[22:28] <almostdvs> how do i import a new sound theme?
[22:28] <zicho> rww,  if i close fluxbox, and start it up again via "dbus-launch" banshee works just like it should. Is there anyway to edit the script that runs when logging in?
[22:28] <forcumang> :)
[22:28] <hololight> rww: thanks
[22:28] <rww> oneiroiii: excellent. I'll need to remember that trick...
[22:28] <kd7swh> forcumang: I will restart the init.d thanks
[22:28] <gnutron> jordo2323: can you mount it at all?
[22:28] <forcumang> np
[22:28] <phoenix_rebearth> is there a place where you can have log files checked for mistakes
[22:28] <oneiroiii> rww: Thanks for the help :)
[22:28] <russ> rww: is there a way to roll back my last update?
[22:28] <gnutron> jordo2323: do it all from a command line, chown etc.
[22:28] <forcumang> phoenix_rebearth: do you mean a program that checks your whole text file for certain words?
[22:28] <jordo2323> gnutron, explain...
[22:29] <phoenix_rebearth> forcumang: no I found several 'former' bugs in my kernel.log file but I'm quite new to the linux log files so I don't really know what to do about it
[22:29] <Xylia> I just installed Ubuntu on my Mini 9 and can't figure out how to make wireless work. Can anyone help me?
[22:29] <oneiroiii> Now if I could just run FL Studio, or a native Linux equivalent, I'd be complete!
[22:29] <rww> zicho: If this were the Arch Linux IRC channel, I'd say to modify .xinitrc and put that command in there, but I don't know whether that's the Ubuntu Way of doing things.
[22:29] <kd7swh> forcumang: "/etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart" renders: W: ltdl-bind-now.c: Failed to find original dlopen loader.
[22:29] <kd7swh> E: pid.c: Daemon already running.
[22:29] <kd7swh> E: main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[22:30] <forcumang> phoenix_rebearth: well, start pasting parts of those faulty logs into google
[22:30] <ott0> when i run chkconfig vmware off i'm getting errors about loops in the services. does anyone know how to fix this? i've run check-initd-order -g but i don't really understand the output
[22:30] <forcumang> kd7swh: in that case, use stop, then start
[22:30] <zicho> rww, what about .xsession?
[22:30] <phoenix_rebearth> forcumang: that 's how I know there are some problems with the system but it's kind of chinese to me
[22:30] <ott0> j initd
[22:30] <oneiroiii> zicho: I'd Google for a fluxbox startup script or directory or something.  I think I remember it being a directory with symlinks
[22:30] <almostdvs> how do i import a new sound theme?\
[22:30] <forcumang> phoenix_rebearth: take the lines that look bad, and paste them into google, thus gaining an answer
[22:31] <kd7swh> forcumang: "/etc/init.d/pulseaudio stop" renders the same string
[22:31] <phoenix_rebearth> forcumang: It only gives me more questions
[22:31] <zicho> oneiroiii, well, the problem is that i need to launch fluxbox with this command, since it has no effect when it has started
[22:31] <forcumang> kd7swh: i don't use pulseaudio, i just suggested where your proggy stat file is
[22:31] <russ> is there a way to roll back an update. an update this morning killed my audio
[22:31] <zicho> im gonna try relogging now, see if it does the trick
[22:31] <forcumang> phoenix_rebearth: ah
[22:31] <N-A> I can't umount or mount a specific partition as my current user, only as root, other partitions with the same fstab options I can mount and umount without root priveliges fine, what might be the problem?
[22:32] <gnutron> jordo2323: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/mountpoint  you may need filesystem parameters, then change ownership to your liking. man mount, man chown
[22:32] <lavacano201014> N-A-\ Ooh, I just thought of it
[22:32] <kd7swh> forcumang: I would prefer to default back to alsa how would I go about doing that
[22:32] <lavacano201014> N-A-\ File permissions
[22:32] <russ> is there  a chan dedicated to audio problems?
[22:32] <N-A> lavacano201014: Which perms?
[22:32] <forcumang> kd7swh: i don't even know what 'asla' and 'pulseaudio' is
[22:33] <gnutron> jordo2323: you need to know its device name for starters
[22:33] <N-A> lavacano201014: Mount point? Dev?
[22:33] <lavacano201014> N-A-\ Both of them
[22:33] <lavacano201014> Mount point I think should have write access
[22:33] <forcumang> are*
[22:33] <Xylia> Can anyone give me a hand with wireless please?
[22:34] <N-A> lavacano201014: They are: drwxrwxrwx for mount point and: brw-rw---- for dev with root as owner for both
[22:34] <forcumang> Xylia: first check if your wireless card is supported by ubuntu, on the ubuntu site
[22:34] <forcumang> if not, attempt to use ndiswrapper to connect
[22:34] <lavacano201014> N-A-\ Set the device to brwxrwxrwx
[22:34] <N-A> lavacano201014: And they are the same for the other devices/mount points
[22:34] <rockyrock> has anybody used nvidia 180.08 driver with 8500GT???
[22:34] <almostdvs> how do i import a new sound theme?\
[22:34] <gnutron> jordo2323: there are ubuntu wikis for mounting extra drives, pretty easy
[22:34] <forcumang> 180.08 ?
[22:34] <forcumang> i have 8600 GT only up to 177
[22:35] <forcumang> o.o
[22:35] <forcumang> afkzor
[22:35] <lavacano201014> N-A-\ What appears to be going on is you can only mount as root because your standard account lacks read access
[22:35] <leandro> tem galera do rio ai?
[22:35] <kd7swh> forcumang: they're sound servers. I guess I'll try the forums.
[22:35] <zicho> Oneiroii, your trick worked. edited my startup from "exec /usr/bin/fluxbox" to "exec /usr/bin/dbus-launch fluxbox". Thx a whole bunch
[22:36] <rww> zicho: which file did you put that in? so I know for future reference?
[22:36] <Sierradump> Is there a Linux Application that would allow me to see WHO is associated with my accesspoint?  And possibly their computer name and or ip address????
[22:36] <russ> can someone help me troubleshoot my audio problem. My sound was working perfectly before I installed an update this morning
[22:37] <Sierradump> russ: I can try and help you - just got done battling similar issue.
[22:37] <zicho> rww, ~/.fluxbox/startuo
[22:37] <zicho> *startup
[22:37] <Slart> Sierradump: I think that would be something that would have to run *on* your access point
[22:37] <CelticLord> test
[22:37] <russ> sierradump: cool
[22:37] <zicho> rww, thanks for your support too
[22:37] <Oneiroii> No problem :) Shot in the dark, honestly, but hey
[22:37] <Slart> Sierradump: most access points actually have this function already.. in some kind of web gui
[22:37] <Xylia> forcumang: It's BCM4312, which seems to be supported by 8.10
[22:37] <rww> Sierradump: that sort of information would usually be found in your router's web configuration page. Look at your router's documentation manual and see if it has information on configuring it via the web.
[22:37] <Sierradump> russ:  whats your exact issue? no sound?
[22:37] <zicho> Oneiroii, well... when i think about myself i feel kinda stupid. ;D
[22:37] <russ> Sierradump: I instaleld an update this morning and now my audio does not work
[22:38] <Sierradump> slart / rww: so its not exactly *my accesspoint :)
[22:38] <Sk8rdude> does anyone know where i could get help with ftpd's??
[22:38] <chupy> does anyone knows how to install flash player on flock?... i have it on firefox and in opera
[22:38] <russ> Sierradump: I have a creative X-fi card which has a very well known bug, but the beta driver was working perfectly until the update
[22:38] <Sierradump> russ:  open a terminal and type this command:  aplay -l
[22:39] <N-A> zsquareplusc: Didn't help :-S
[22:39] <rww> Sierradump: ah, I see :). You could use nmap to scan your subnet and then probe any computers you find to get their computer name. Wireshark might also turn up some stuff, especially if they're Windows computers.
[22:39] <russ> Sierradump: no souncards found
[22:39] <Sierradump> russ:  okay well thats the first problem ! hahah we can work on it give me minute to finish up here real quick.
[22:39] <russ> Sierradump: Sure :)
[22:39] <Slart> Sierradump: ah.. I see *nudge* *nudge*.. my network-fu isn't strong enough for this.. but I think it will be hard to accomplish
[22:40] <Sierradump> rww:  is wireshark available on linux? I went to the etherreal website and it only lists windows downloads!
[22:40] <Sk8rdude> does anyone know where i could get help with ftpd's??
[22:40] <rww> Sierradump: someone was in here complaining it didn't work unless it was run with sudo today, so I'ma go with "yes". Lemmie go find the package name for oyu.
[22:40] <gnutron> Sierradump: ethereal is now wireshark under ubuntu
[22:40] <russ> Sierradump: I watched hak5 an i think it is available
[22:40] <Sierradump> slart / rww: I used to have suse on a laptop back in the day 10.0, and I was at an airport and could see computernames/ip addresses and could just poke/prod around... Was fun.
[22:40] <N-A> Sierradump: I got it installed with add/remove :-)
[22:40] <Lisa1> how do you uninstall ubnutu without hurting the other partition with Windows on it?
[22:41] <energY> hello
[22:41] <calebH> hello
[22:41] <rww> Sierradump: as gnutron said, it's package wireshark, in the universe repository
[22:41] <energY> irssi as root'
[22:41] <Sierradump> russ / n-a: I will give it a shot - is the program name "wireshark" (i.e. sudo app-get install wireshark )
[22:41] <energY> how bad?
[22:41] <Slart> Sierradump: well.. try the networking tools that are available.. etheral, tcpdump, wireshark, prism stumbler etc
[22:41] <dr_willis> Lisa1,  you basicially delete the linux partition and remake  a new partition in the same spot as some windows filesystem.. or resize thewindows install  then somehow reinstall the proper windows boot loader
[22:42] <rww> Sierradump: and nmap is package nmap in I think main
[22:42] <draco1234> Sk8rdude: http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=ftp+server+ubuntu
[22:42] <calebH> does anyone know if it's possible to customize the gnome "Guest" session?  Specifically, I'd like to have compiz and gnome-do (among other things) startup when I launch a guest session...
[22:42] <Sierradump> slart:  ahhh prism stumbler I think that was it...
[22:42] <almostdvs> how do i import a new sound theme?\
[22:42] <russ> Sierradump: I went to the website I haven't tried to install
[22:42] <N-A> Lisa1: You can reinstall the windows bootloader with the windows CD and their repair console
[22:42] <Sk8rdude> draco that's not what i'm after at all
[22:42] <energY> Is songbird the best itunes like program?
[22:42] <Lisa1> so in other words there is no easy way of getting rid of ubuntu ? what a shame
[22:42] <Sierradump> russ: okay so now type this to see if it even SEES your soundcard ---   lspci -v
[22:42] <rww> Sk8rdude: what, specifically, do you need help with?
[22:43] <gnutron> Lisa1: you'll need to boot a windows cd and fixboot or fixmbr or you'll be un-bootable after wiping the ubuntu partitions, because grub files will be gone
[22:43] <almostdvs> my sound preferences only have two tabs. i should have more right?
[22:43] <dr_willis> Lisa1,  gee. try getting rid of windows.. no easy waty to get rid of that.. what a shame..
[22:43] <russ> Sierradump: yes I see it
[22:43] <vbman11> does any one know how to enable MPX?
[22:43] <Sierradump> okay cool - thats good, at least it SEES your card.
[22:43] <rww> Sk8rdude: I know, "ftpds", but what about them? Are you getting an error when setting one up? Trying to choose one? What?
[22:43] <Lisa1> dr_willis: atleast windows works
[22:43] <dr_willis> Lisa1,  its our fault ms makes it hard to replace the bootloader?
[22:43] <dr_willis> Lisa1,  i have to  say i disagree...
[22:43] <Oneiroii> So does anyone know how to set the GTK theme for root?
[22:43] <rww> dr_willis: Sure there is, I managed to do it accidentally last night >.>
[22:43] <N-A> Lisa1: Troll much lately?
[22:43] <Sk8rdude> rww: i'm trying to use pure-ftpd and for some reason when i start it the max user switch is being ignored and is locked to 1; even without the switch it doesn't go to the default value of 50
[22:43] <jordo2323> gnutron, thanks got it...
[22:43] <dr_willis> Lisa1,  and if you really want windows support - since its a windows issue.. see #windows
[22:43] <Sierradump> russ: okay so sorry what was the make/model of your soundcard?
[22:44] <Oneiroii> Without logging as root, I mean
[22:44] <dr_willis> rww,  :)  its so easy ive had it destroy itself! :P  with no help.
[22:44] <gnutron> jordo2323: congratulations, i didnt do much.
[22:44] <FSCK_FSCK_FSCK> quesiton. hurf durfs. how do i force X to use a resolution not specified in the edid? this monitor doesnt have an edid and im trying to use 1366x768. using nvidia drivers
[22:44] <russ> Sierradump: creative labs SB X-Fi
[22:44] <Lisa1> dr_Willis: my profesional has never crashed on me, ubuntu crashed on me 8 times, lost data twice, finally tried to reinstall, but then the ubuntu install cd just kept getting hung up and wouldn't do anything, so I finally got fed up and went back to windows
[22:44] <jordo2323> gnutron, why when I enter any command does it say it can't resolve my hostname before asking a password?
[22:45] <dr_willis> Lisa1,  I really dont care.  do what you want.
[22:45] <draco1234> Lisa1, what are you talking about, it's easy to get rid of ubuntu
[22:45] <dr_willis> Lisa1,  im sure you dont care about my windows disasters either.. so have a nice day.
[22:45] <Sierradump> what was the output of lspci -v ?
[22:45] <Sierradump> did it say creative sb x-fi?
[22:46] <Lisa1> dr_willis: its really upsetting as I told everybody I knew to install ubuntu, and I was saying how great it is, and then all these problems, 8 crashes within 3 days, unexcusable, not being able to reinstall... what do you wan't me to do? it just didn
[22:46] <gnutron> jordo2323: did you edit your /etc/hosts file or something? still got net? what commands?
[22:46] <Sierradump> russ:  what was output of lspci-v?
[22:46] <Lisa1> it just didn't work, might have been a hardware issue, ohwell I guess linux isn't ready for laptops, atleast older ones
[22:46] <strange> hey guys whats teh key combination in ubuntu to run a command
[22:46] <strange> something with f2
[22:46] <jordo2323> gnuskool, yeah....everything seems just fine....I didn't edit it, it's like after the last batch of Ibex updates it started....I will check /etc/hosts though
[22:46] <almostdvs> alt
[22:46] <Sk8rdude> strange: alt
[22:46] <gnutron> strange: alt-f2
[22:46] <flnhst> Lisa1, works perfect on my p4 laptop, with pcmcia wireless
[22:46] <strange> thanks
[22:46] <jordo2323> gnustron, yeah....everything seems just fine....I didn't edit it, it's like after the last batch of Ibex updates it started....I will check /etc/hosts though
[22:46] <dr_willis> Lisa1,  Most of the issues ive seen with ubuntu are bad drivers - due to the hardware makers giving linux the finger..  Then again.. ive had hardware issues with vista, and xp  and otehr stuff as well.. hardware makers dont care to test drivers much these days it seems.
[22:47] <jordo2323> gnuskool, sorry again :)
[22:47] <russ> Sierradump: do you want me to paste it somewhere?
[22:47] <Sierradump> paste.ubuntu.com
[22:47] <N-A> I can't umount or mount a specific partition as my current user, only as root, other partitions with the same fstab options I can mount and umount without root priveliges fine, what might be the problem?
[22:47] <Sk8rdude> rww: i'm trying to use pure-ftpd and for some reason when i start it the max user switch is being ignored and is locked to 1; even without the switch it doesn't go to the default value of 50
[22:47] <samferry> KDE4000!
[22:47] <Lisa1> dr_willis: what about the crashes, and what about the reinstall issue?
[22:47] <draco1234> Lisa1, specifically, what do you want to do? just leave the partitions alone and make windows boot automatically when you turn it on?
[22:47] <Sierradump> russ: give me the link at paste.ubuntu.com
[22:47] <KDE4000> samferry: lol
[22:47] <Sk8rdude> N-A: it was probably mounted as root
[22:47] <samferry> gewt?!
[22:48] <samferry> b4!
[22:48] <gewt> hai
[22:48] <Sk8rdude> N-A: you could try commenting it out of the fstab if you have root access and it's in there
[22:48] <AndyR> irc.aceirc.org
[22:48] <AndyR> irc.aceirc.org
[22:48] <AndyR> irc.aceirc.org
[22:48] <FloodBot1> AndyR: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:48] <Lisa1> dr_willis: I was in here half an hour ago, begging for support to install ubuntu so that I could give it another show, I just simply loved the idea of free software, but no body would respond to my request of help with the installation, what do you expect me to do, use my computer without an OS?
[22:48] <Lisa1> draco1234: that would be nice
[22:48] <dr_willis> Lisa1,  no idea. im not paying much attention to your rants. You have given up it seems. so either you want help.. or you want to give up.  If you want help. here and the forums are the places to hang out.
[22:48] <N-A> Sk8rdude: But the fstab line is the same for that partition as it is for others that let me umount/mount them as my current user?
[22:49] <N-A> Sk8rdude: OK I've commented the line
[22:49] <dr_willis> !patiance
[22:49] <Guest34521> how can I revert to old kernel ?
[22:49] <dr_willis> oops
[22:49] <dr_willis> !patience
[22:49] <N-A> Sk8rdude: Do I have to reboot?
[22:49] <rww> Sk8rdude: hmm. Not sure, to be honest. Seems like the pure-ftpd IRC channel isn't active either :(
[22:49] <draco1234> Lisa1, ok, can you get into ubuntu in order to edit a file? or are you in it already?
[22:49] <Sk8rdude> N-A: no, just save it and see what happens
[22:49] <russ> Sierradump: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77867/
[22:49] <Oneiroii> Lisa1: I'll say from experience, depending on the day, time, alignment of the planets, etc. you either get quick concise help here, or next to none at all.  It just depends on your luck.  No sense getting mad.
[22:49]  * dr_willis hands draco1234  a coffee..  I gotta go feed the baby. :P
[22:49] <draco1234> lol
[22:49] <gab3> which is faster for a 4 year old, PATA drive - reiserfs, ext3 or xfs?
[22:49] <mae> I am trying to install WoW and the installer says i need more disk drive space, i do not know how to fic this
[22:49] <jordo2323> gnutron, got it, nevermind....it was /etc/hosts
[22:50] <gab3> fastest, i should say.
[22:50] <gnutron> jordo2323: good work :)
[22:50] <Lisa1> draco1234: ubuntu won't boot, im on a different comp
[22:50] <Sk8rdude> rww: that's why i'm asking here... my last option is to email the dev guys from the mail addy on the site but wanted to see if i could find anyone in the know before i did
[22:50] <N-A> Sk8rdude: and sudo umount and try to remount?
[22:50] <gnutron> Guest34521: do you show the older kernel in your grub boot menu?
[22:50] <Lisa1> Oneiroii: I know and i appologize, its just difficult not to get mad when you loose your spreadsheets that you were working on
[22:51] <Sk8rdude> N-A: yes, make sure you have saved and closed your editor that you were using
[22:51] <N-A> Sk8rdude: on umount I get the error that it isn't in fstab and I'm not root
[22:51] <draco1234> Lisa, ok, hmm. So the laptop has windows and ubuntu on it? Does it give you a menu, and ubuntu does not boot, but you can choose windows and it does boot?
[22:51] <Guest34521> gnutron: I want 27-8 back, and it doesn't show
[22:51] <Oneiroii> Lisa1: I know, for sure :)  3 out of 5 times, I look for answers on IRC I get miffed and leave :)
[22:51] <Lisa1> draco1234: no actually the boot loader is broken
[22:51] <almostdvs> i can't set custom sounds, my sounds preferences has only two tabs and i think it should have more. what's going on?
[22:51] <josem> hola
[22:51] <Sk8rdude> N-A: is it mounted properly? it shouldnt matter if it's in the fstab for mounting... all the fstab does is mount on boot
[22:51] <N-A> Sk8rdude: No mount object for...
[22:52] <Sierradump> russ: did I miss it? It didn't look like it was displayed on lspci-v?
[22:52] <gnutron> Guest34521: read your /boot/grub/menu.lst and look for a line that says show all
[22:52] <russ> Sierradump: I'll do it again
[22:52] <draco1234> Lisa1, wow, that is pretty bad. Do you have any windows cds?
[22:52] <Oneiroii> almostdvs: Did you get a custom soundset somewhere?
[22:53] <Sierradump> russ:  ahh found it on line 471... no need to redo.
[22:53] <gnutron> Guest34521: by default hardy and previous ver's showall if they exist
[22:53] <Lisa1> draco1234: ya, I have professional, I just really wanted to make ubuntu work, I guess im a soialist in heart
[22:53] <russ> Sierradump : thx
[22:53] <Sk8rdude> N-A: is it an internal hdd and is it a partition or just a full drive?
[22:53] <Guest34521> gnutron: oh, yes you're right, I thought it was only recovery mode
[22:53] <gnutron> Lisa1: its not always painless on the first install
[22:53] <N-A> Sk8rdude: only root can do that i get when I try to do it in the terminal
[22:53] <draco1234> Lisa1, so what happened? Did the installer crash in the middle of things or something?
[22:53] <almostdvs> Oneiroii: no, i haven't done anything yet. it just doesn't seem right. i've never had sound "themes" before. which can be nice but...
[22:54] <N-A> Sk8rdude: internal /dev/sdd2 (third part, ntfs-3g used)
[22:54] <forcumang> sound themes?
[22:54] <forcumang> what does that even do
[22:54] <aneqrs> Lisa1: if the boot loader is broken, I would pop in an ubuntu live-cd and reinstall it properly. Though I admit the hard thing is the "properly"-part
[22:54] <Oneiroii> almostdvs: Oh, :(  Was wondering because I wouldn't mind some slick sound themes me own self
[22:54] <forcumang> you can theme the sound?
[22:54] <forcumang> o.o
[22:54] <Trinix> Hi & Happy Holidays/Thanksgiving to everyone.  Now off to problems.  I'm attempting to do LiveCD Ubuntu 8.0.4 with a Dell Dimension 3000 (256 MB RAM, 2.4 Ghz) and it seems to have loaded the desktop wallpaper.  The drive is spinning rigorously still for about 10 minutes.  Mouse moves around, but no Gnome Menus / icons.  Any suggestions?
[22:54] <Lisa1> aneqrs: live-cd doesn't do anything anymore it doesn't even boot ubuntu live, on THAT computer, on others the cd works fine
[22:54] <jin_> something wrong with Ubuntu..
[22:54] <Sierradump> russ:  I don't see it listed on the alsa site though?
[22:54] <almostdvs> Oneiroii: well i was just going to install the mac4lin sound theme but i'm note even sure how to do that
[22:54] <jin_> I am copying a movie from a windows share and I am only getting 2MB/s
[22:55] <jin_> and this is over a lan
[22:55] <forcumang> jin_: something wrong with your ubuntu
[22:55] <gnutron> Lisa1: when you get it working, you'll wanna dance, trust me, we all go thru that
[22:55] <N-A> Sk8rdude: this is the fstab line: /dev/sdd2 /media/Big1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=da_DK.UTF-8 0 0
[22:55] <russ> Sierradump: IDK it was working perfectly until I updated this morning
[22:55] <aneqrs> Lisa1: oh, that's weird... especially when it used to work before (which precludes, say, a misconfiguration in the bios making the computer boot from the hard drive before checking the CD-drive)
[22:55] <Sierradump> which driver did you use?
[22:55] <Sierradump> russ:  was it working after a clean install?
[22:56] <mae> how do i add more space to my disk drive?
[22:56] <N-A> Sk8rdude: I also have NTFS configuration tool installed, if that tells you anything
[22:56] <zsquareplusc> gnutron, reinstalling grub isn't that complex. boot livecd, mount hd, "remount,dev" then chroot and an update-grub should do it
[22:56] <nat2610> I recently upgraded to 8.10 and now I have a sound issue, after a few hours my sound stop working... it wasn't like that before, I guess the sound dev is used by a process that never give it back or soemthing like that but I don't know what to look for ... is it a known issue ?
[22:56] <russ> Sierradump: no, what happened was that the update manager came up and said that I had some updates to install so I installed them and rebooted and the audio died
[22:56] <Trikster> How do I install ubuntu?
[22:56] <gnutron> zsquareplusc: i've got no problems here, but ok :)
[22:56] <Neaai> Trinix: I'd say you have few ram (256M) to do a 'live'. The 'live' eats up more memory than standard installs.
[22:57] <Sk8rdude> N-A: i'm not sure but maybe ntfs-3g has to be run as root to mount the drive.  I have had some problems with this recently on my laptop and the fix i used was to comment out the mount line in the fstab and just mount it manually through the gui; i haven't found a proper fix for it yet
[22:57] <rww> !install | Trikster
[22:57] <Sierradump> russ:  but was it working after a clean install?
[22:57] <draco1234> Trikster, do you have an Ubuntu CD?
[22:57] <zsquareplusc> gnutron: i know it wasn't you, but i had to tell someone ;-)
[22:57] <Trikster> No, draco1234.
[22:57] <gnutron> zsquareplusc: lol, thats cool.
[22:57] <rockyrock> I have 2D problems with my nvidia GeForce 8500GT
[22:57] <Trinix> but will it boot up still Neaai;  even if its slow as snail, I just need it to access Firefox and go to any website to test my ethernet card
[22:57] <N-A> Sk8rdude: this one works: /dev/sdb1 /media/Music ntfs-3g defaults,locale=da_DK.UTF-8 0 0 I can umount and mount it in nautilus as my current user without problems
[22:57] <rockyrock> when i move a window i see a tail, so how to solve that???
[22:58] <russ> Sierradump: I'm confused about what you mean about a clean install. but I think the answer is no. I've been running 8.10 for more than a month
[22:58] <sere> anyone know how to get steam to work
[22:58] <usser> rockyrock, did u install the nvidia drivers?
[22:58] <Sk8rdude> N-A: and if you comment out the line for sdb2 and try nautilus it still fails?
[22:58] <russ> Sierradump: I did not format and then install if that's what you mean
[22:58] <sere> err:msi:copy_package_to_temp failed to copy package L"SteamInstaller.msi"
[22:58] <sere> fixme:msi:MSI_OpenDatabaseW open: anyone know how to fix this failed r = 80030002 for L"SteamInstaller.msi"
[22:59] <Neaai> Trinix: depends. With a normal install, ram breathes better than in 'live' and you also have swap space. In live, there's no swap so ram has to cope with that too.
[22:59] <lavacano201014> sere-\ Run it in wine
[22:59] <rockyrock> usser: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.80-pkg1
[22:59] <N-A> Sk8rdude: which is the strange part for me, I mean, sure, if none of my ntfs partitions could be mounted by my user I could just discount it as something that wasn't possible yet, but...
[22:59] <sere> lavacano201014, i get that error
[22:59] <lavacano201014> sere-\ Hmm. Maybe Wine has problems with MSI files
[22:59] <usser> rockyrock, right. any particular howto that u used?
[22:59] <sere> os there an exe
[22:59] <Sierradump> russ: by "clean install" I mean after you installed 8.10 was the sound working or did you have to hack at it to get it to work??? --  have a look here, scroll to bottom section " getting the Alsa drivers from a *fresh* kernel - it sounds like the update broke the soundcard... LINK:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[23:00] <Trinix> thanks for the heads up Neaai.  I'll give it a bit more time before i try something else
[23:00] <Neaai> Trinix: to test your card you could also try to boot in text mode, and use the command line via ping, wget, w3m, etc.
[23:00] <rockyrock> usser: stop gdm, install that driver and restart again!
[23:00] <Sk8rdude> N-A: i get the same problem... what i mentioned is exactly that, i have a hdd in the lappy; 3 partitions, one with windoze, one as ntfs storage and one for ubuntu and for some reason after the upgrade the storage ntfs just stopped behaving yet the windoze partition still auto-mounts fine
[23:00] <lavacano201014> sere-\ Another way we could install it for you is I could send you two files from my install in a zipfile
[23:00] <usser> rockyrock, take a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual explains process in all details
[23:00] <lavacano201014> sere-\ You run the exe I send and it will go "HEY! All my stuff
[23:00] <Trinix> good point
[23:00] <lavacano201014> 's gone!"
[23:00] <Trinix> thanks Neaai
[23:00] <lavacano201014> sere-\ Then it will download it's stuff in an "update" and you should be good to go
[23:00] <russ> Sierradump: it was not working when I initially installed. I had to get it to work
[23:00] <Neaai> Trinix: gnome is quite rough for a 256M system normally... add there the live overhead.
[23:00] <usser> rockyrock, theres more stuff u have to do besides running installer
[23:01] <lavacano201014> sere-\ That seem like a good idea?
[23:01] <russ> Sierradump: thx
[23:01] <N-A> Sk8rdude: Hmm, when I do that, the error is different: "Device to unmoun is not in /medua/.hal-mtab so it is not mounted by HAL"
[23:01] <Sierradump> russ:  before you try that link go to SYSTEM | PREFERENCES | Sound
[23:01] <N-A> Sk8rdude: */media/.hal...
[23:01] <rockyrock> usser: i searched in the forum, it appears that i'm not the only one who has those problem with 8500GT!!!
[23:01] <russ> Sierradump: I'm there
[23:01] <Sierradump> russ:  what do you see listed in the 4 drop down boxes?
[23:02] <rockyrock> usser: it's all 2D problems
[23:02] <N-A> Sk8rdude: Hehe, that buggered that one too
[23:02] <Sk8rdude> N-A: sorry then, i'm all out of ideas
[23:02] <Fezzler> I've added a Trash Can to my desktop but I don't like the icon of a can and want to change to wire basket.  How to I find out where the Trash icon on my desktop is located?
[23:02] <N-A> Sk8rdude: When I put it back in fstab I get the same error with that one now as before with only the other one
[23:02] <usser> rockyrock, nevertheless try from scratch using the guide i sent you, i've never heard of nvidia 80xx chips not working under ubuntu
[23:03] <gnutron> rockyrock: try this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[23:03] <N-A> Sk8rdude: Do you know what this mtab business is?
[23:03] <zsquareplusc> N-A: you should mount an umount with the same application. so either have it in fstab, or let gnome-volmume manager do it. but changing rules halfway gives you these errors
[23:03] <N-A> !mtab
[23:03] <russ> Sierradump: I've fooled with it so I don't think that what is there now is what was originally there at the time of this problem but here it is: Autodetect,PulsAudio sound Server,PulseAudio sound server, test sould
[23:03] <jimdb> I have an oddity with cursors.  I installed a cursor theme.  it works only when the cursor is over an application.  if I move the cursor and hover over the desktop the cursor is the plain white one.  Any ideas on why the cursor is the generic while hovering over the desktop while acts as the new cursor from the theme when I hover over a program (such as pidgin or firefox, etc)?
[23:03] <exodus_ms> running ubuntu as client in vmware server, booting from iso image on host. Would this prevent me from mounting my dvd drive in ubuntu?
[23:03] <Fezzler> When I right click the Properties just says "On Desktop"
[23:03] <N-A> zsquareplusc: I didn't know about gnome-volume manager :-D
[23:03] <shafi> Does Some one know Java Network programming?
[23:03] <N-A> zsquareplusc: Can you maybe enlighten me?
[23:03] <Guest34521> Where can I enable roamin mode ? System | Administration | Networking and properties on the card is not in 8.10, the wiki on the site is old
[23:03] <shafi> Java Socket Programming
[23:04] <Ayabara> my wmv files have a blue cast in ubuntu. any clue why that might be?
[23:04] <nogagplz> exodus_ms: make a seperate drive for the vm that points to your physical dvd driver as well as having one for the iso to boot from?
[23:04] <rockyrock> usser: search in the forum and you'll find a lot of users who have 8500GT with 2D problems
[23:04] <Izinucs> Ayabara: the precursor to the BSOD?
[23:04] <lavacano201014> Ayabara-\ Goofy files?
[23:04] <zsquareplusc> N-A: gnome-volume manager should automatically give you the possibility to mount drives/partitions it finds. that's true for harddisks as well as USB memory
[23:04] <Ayabara> Izinucs: hehe
[23:04] <Xylia> Can anyone help me? I'm trying to follow the instructions at http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt and I don't know what to replace the x's with in steps 4/5.
[23:04] <tigin88> help looking for .asx  support and shoutcast
[23:04] <Ayabara> lavacano201014: well no. they looked ok before I reinstalled intrepid
[23:05] <N-A> Sk8rdude && zsquareplusc:Do you know that maintains  /media/.hal-mtab and if it's safe to edit by hand?
[23:05] <lavacano201014> Ayabara-\ Maybe your drivers are funny...
[23:05] <zsquareplusc> Ayabara: when playing, or just the thumbnails?
[23:05] <Sierradump> russ: im on phone 1 sec
[23:05] <Ayabara> zsquareplusc: when playing
[23:05] <Flannel> tigin88: shoutcast is well supported.  If you're looking for a server, it's "icecast"
[23:05] <zsquareplusc> N-A: its the hidden mount point that gnome-volume-manager will use. you should not need to do anything manually there
[23:05] <Izinucs> I'm experiencing laggy screen performance with an nvidia 8200 onboard video and the 177 restricted driver.  Anyone else have this card working correctly?
[23:06] <rockyrock> gnutron: i haven't found my card there
[23:06] <N-A> zsquareplusc: Yes, quite, but it is buggered, which is causing this problem for me, so to fix it?
[23:06] <Ayabara> is the w32codecs still around?
[23:06] <Neaai> Xylia: with your actual kernel version. What does "uname -r" say for you?
[23:06] <rockyrock> gnutron: sorry i mean i didn't found it
[23:06] <zsquareplusc> Ayabara: these proprietary formats are... well.. try to use open standards if possible.. anyway. you might try other applications for playing. like vnc or xine
[23:06] <Xylia> Neaai: 2.6.27-7-generic
[23:06] <zsquareplusc> N-A: choose one method and reboot .p
[23:06] <bobhassan> anyone have a acer aspire one 110?(the linux-version, ssd)?
[23:06] <gnutron> rockyrock: thats probably not a good sign, break out your hacking skills :)
[23:07] <rockyrock> Does anybody has 8500GT here???
[23:07] <Izinucs> Ayabara: I think in the mediabuntu repos.. they have the codecs for wmv and dvd.. you might also try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:07] <exodus_ms> nogagplz, not sure what you mean. Are you saying change the settings in Vmware for the drive I boot the image from and add another device for mounting the dvd drive?
[23:07] <Ayabara> zsquareplusc: I agree, but I can't control formats of movies everywhere :)
[23:07] <N-A> zsquareplusc: By choose one method you mean?
[23:07] <Ayabara> Izinucs: thanks
[23:07] <nogagplz> exodus_ms: yes
[23:07] <Fezzler> What program can I use to program in linux/Ubuntu?  I want to create a game.  I've used GW-BASIC, Q-BASIC, PASCAL in past.
[23:07] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[23:07] <sysrpl> hello
[23:08] <zsquareplusc> N-A: either have it in fstab or not. t hen reboot so that the one or the other service can mount your partitions. no entries in fstab should work well
[23:08] <Oneiroii> Fezzler: I hear there's a Linux port of PASCAL
[23:08] <zsquareplusc> Fezzler: i suggest python and pygame
[23:08] <Neaai> Xylia: so you must have a directory named /lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic/
[23:08] <Fezzler> Oneiroii: No!  Did you know that Quatro was written in Pascal?
[23:08] <rockyrock> gnutron: my hacking skills died :) I have been trying to solve this 2D problems 3 months ago
[23:08] <Neaai> Xylia: what do you have under /lib/modules/   ?
[23:08] <Oneiroii> Fezzler: Quatro the old accounting software?
[23:08] <calebH> any recommendations on a good cli music player?
[23:09] <SimAtWork> hey guys, trying ubuntu 8.04 out for the first time.. intsalled kde... but konsole and kcontrol are missing.  how do i get them?
[23:09] <rockyrock> gnutron: some guys just told me to buy an ATI!
[23:09] <N-A> zsquareplusc: Yes, but then the partitions aren't mounted at bootup, meaning I have to manually mount/access the drive before anything from the drive can be used, right?
[23:09] <tigin88> not exactly what i am looking for i am looking for an alternative for winamp ie media library shoutcast radio and .asx support
[23:09] <SimAtWork> apt-get install konsole does not work, it says it is reffered to by another pgoram but notlisted.
[23:09] <SimAtWork> tigin88: i love amarok
[23:09] <[T]ank> i tried setting my eth addresses to static ip. I can ssh to them from other computers on the same network with the new addresses but I cannot ping internet address from the machine I made the changes to now.
[23:09] <SimAtWork> tigin88: I MEAN *LOVE*.
[23:09] <[T]ank> i have double checked my resolv.conf file.
[23:09] <sysrpl> VobSub index file
[23:09] <[T]ank> that is correct.
[23:09] <[T]ank> what else should I be checking?
[23:09] <sysrpl> oops
[23:09] <gnutron> rockyrock: in hardy system - admin - device hardware is a place to start looking.
[23:09] <Oneiroii> [T]ank: Can't ping from the machine with static IP?
[23:09] <zsquareplusc> N-A: i guess so. but why do you want to have them mounted automatically and then unmount them?!
[23:10] <exodus_ms> nogagplz, ok, I'll give it a try thanks. Right now my drive in Ubuntu is mounted but it is the iso image
[23:10] <tigin88> i tried amarok i cant get it to play .asx
[23:10] <Fezzler> Oneiroii: Spreadsheet.  Very popular alternative to 1-2-3.  Excel killed them all
[23:10] <Xylia> Neaai: Okay, making progress. If I type in line 5 on that website it gets me a list of stuff in directory /lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic/build, but I think I'm doing something wrong with the M='pwd' bit. And /lib/modules just gives me 2.6.27-7-generic.
[23:10] <gnutron> rockyrock: in hardy system - admin - hardware drivers, sorry
[23:10] <N-A> zsquareplusc: I need to unmount them to poke about with them every now and again, partition editing and whatnot
[23:10] <Oneiroii> Fezzler: Now you're talking oldschool
[23:10] <[T]ank> Oneiroii: correct. cant hit outside dns or ip address, only internal
[23:10] <[T]ank> whoa.... just a sec.
[23:10] <CelticLord> re nuit!!
[23:10] <rockyrock> gnutron: yeah, but what next!!!??
[23:11] <N-A> zsquareplusc: So it's the exception rather than the rule that I need to umount
[23:11] <sysrpl> i am having a problem and need some help please. i am trying to play a video on ibex with totem, andd the video has some external subtitle files which totem doesn't work with (i think). the filer
[23:11] <[T]ank> every once in a while it does actually get a response to ping. but it is hit and miss.
[23:11] <draco1234> SimAtWork, if you like amarok, you'll love totem
[23:11] <[T]ank> when i go back to dhcp it all works perfectly
[23:11] <Izinucs> Oneiroii: Fezzler I cut my teeth on Visicalc
[23:11] <Oneiroii> [T]ank: Does the machine with the static IP have a legit DNS nameserver address in the interface definition?
[23:11] <shafi> any one with Java Socket programming knowledge?
[23:11] <N-A> zsquareplusc: So no really worth giving up the automount
[23:11] <shafi> any one with Java Socket programming knowledge?
[23:11] <Fezzler> Oneiroii: I can get older too.  CP/M.  Did you know in Ubuntu Dosbox you can run free MS Word 3.0
[23:11] <tigin88> can you help me simatwork
[23:11] <Neaai> Xylia: The line should be then:   make -C /lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic/build M=`pwd` clean
[23:11] <rockyrock> shafi: plz go to #java
[23:11] <[T]ank> Oneiroii: i did dns in the resolve.conf
[23:11] <[T]ank> the address is legit
[23:11] <Fezzler> Izinucs: Was using Calc-to-go this week!
[23:11] <shafi> can you help how to go there?
[23:11] <N-A> zsquareplusc: but anywho it was more about figuring out what was going on than anything else
[23:11] <shafi> rockyrock?
[23:11] <Oneiroii> [T]ank: I think it's in the iface def though
[23:11] <[T]ank> do i have to set dns in the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[23:11] <rockyrock> shafi: "/join ##java"
[23:11] <gnutron> rockyrock: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg might do the trick
[23:12] <woody86> can anyone help me out, when I boot into 64bit Ubuntu on my 64bit computer, the first thing the screen flashes at me is some error about something in my bio not being correct, and that it's going to cost me 64mb of RAM? Any ideas?
[23:12] <Oneiroii> Let me check right quick
[23:12] <zsquareplusc> N-A: but why do you care then about root? you will need it to play with the partitions anyway
[23:12] <N-A> zsquareplusc: I find it curious that these two features don't play nice together though
[23:12] <rockyrock> gnutron: what does that command do?
[23:12] <shafi> <rockyrock: where should I enter this path?
[23:12] <[T]ank> do i just use the same syntax as resolv.conf? nameserver=192.168.1.1?
[23:12] <tigin88> can you help me get .asx to work with amarok SimAtWork		
[23:12] <retour> will ubuntu 8.04 work on ASUS M3A78-EM with ATI Radeon HD 3200?  I'm afraid of video issues
[23:12] <sysrpl> i am having a problem and need some help please. i am trying to play a video on ibex with totem, andd the video has some external subtitle files which totem doesn't work with (i think). the subtitle files are in vobsub idx and sub foramt. i believe the sub is not actually a textfile (which totem expect?) ... my question is how can i get totem to display the subtitles?
[23:12] <N-A> zsquareplusc: I don't "care" as you put it, I do care about how things work though :)
[23:12] <Fezzler> Alt-F2 "find the fish"
[23:12] <gnutron> rockyrock: it reconfigures x windows
[23:12] <rockyrock> shafi: in the writing area!!
[23:12] <Oneiroii> [T]ank: Yeah - check your /etc/network/interfaces file
[23:13] <SimAtWork> draco1234: i hate totem
[23:13] <Oneiroii> The interface that's static should have a line like "dns-nameservers xx.xx.xx.xx" under it
[23:13] <gnutron> rockyrock: hopefully it will sense your hardware
[23:13] <SpinachHead> better to go with system76 or lenovo and then install ubuntu? Opinions?
[23:13] <rockyrock> shafi: worked?
[23:13] <Neaai> Xylia: Also, you issue "sudo apt-get install build-essential"  to make sure you have the build/compile mechanism in place.
[23:13] <[T]ank> Oneiroii: right, but is that the syntax i use there? same as in resolv.conf?
[23:13] <SimAtWork> tigin88: can't you just open new media->asx?
[23:13] <SimAtWork> tigin88: you might need to download some codecs... not sure.
[23:13] <Xylia> Neaai: I'm not sure if that worked. It says there's no such file or directory, then make[1]: *** No rule to make target, and make: *** [_clean_pwd] Error 2
[23:13] <rockyrock> gnutron: does that need to stop gdm or a restart??
[23:14] <draco1234> SpinachHead, better than what?
[23:14] <Oneiroii> [T]ank: Literally what I typed, minus the "s, and swap the xx.xx.xx.xx for a legit DNS IP
[23:14] <[T]ank> i must have missed what you typed... scrolling back... sorry
[23:14] <tigin88> tried no let me try to get some info
[23:14] <shafi> rockyrock: I am new in this Xchat can you please give me the exact path?
[23:14] <Oneiroii> No prob
[23:14] <shafi> for java forum
[23:14] <Bern684> hi am a ubuntu newbie, have just updated to the untu 8.10 and need to know where the tweaks are that will get my wireless working again? can anybody help? also any other tweaks that are necessary, ie to stop the fan working all the time or any others? thanks
[23:14] <Neaai> Xylia: you might be needing the build essential tools and probably the kernel headers or kernel source.
[23:14] <gnutron> rockyrock: i'd run it in recovery mode or just /etc/init.d/gdm stop the run dpkg-reconfigure
[23:14] <sysrpl> or, how can i change the subtile font in vlc? because i changed it to another ttf already and it still looks like the same crappy subtitle font ... i.e. my changing the subtitle font seemed to have no effect
[23:14] <Oneiroii> You'll probably need a "gateway xx.xx.xx.xx" line, too, referencing your router
[23:14] <tigin88> error message These media could not be loaded into the playlist:
[23:14] <tigin88> file:///tmp/kde-doucettenr/amarokthIRoa.asx
[23:14] <Gallez> is there a way to restore the default settings of the upper and lower bar in ubuntu 8.10?
[23:15] <yellcard> hi everybody, i have a question please
[23:15] <Gallez> i messed it all up by accident
[23:15] <starenka> hi. need soft tip. need a nice package to deal w/ video. i want to import loads of photographs and play w/ transistions etc on music played.. thx
[23:15] <Sk8rdude> does anyone have any pure-ftpd experience??
[23:15] <Neaai> Xylia: right now I'm on debian and can't check ubuntu to give exact instructions ...
[23:15] <Phoenix87> bye all!
[23:15] <SpinachHead> i mean would you rather buy a lenovo and install ubuntu or go with the system76  -- I cant decide.  The one advantage i can see of system76 right now is the higher lcd res option...
[23:15] <N-A> zsquareplusc: I just installed linux a couple of days ago, last I used it was 5 years or so ago, and this mounting by double clicking thing was new to me, and seemed like a nice feature, and I was wondering why it got buggered, and I can see now (thanks to you) it is because of automounting via fstab :-) to that is curious though, as I do believe the fstab way of playing ball is old as dogs in linux, so I would have thought that a new feature would take it into 
[23:15] <rockyrock> shafi: just write this "/join ##java" in the place where you write to me ;)
[23:15] <shafi> Can any one help me how to reach to java chat?
[23:15] <Xylia> Neaai: sudo apt-get install build-essential returns Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock open, and Unable to lock the administration directory
[23:15] <VladU1> Hi all! Who can help me with corrupted bookmarks in firefox (places.sqlite ) plz?
[23:16] <Fezzler> zsquareplusc: Hey dude.  I'm off to Google "Beginning Python and Pygame."  Can I get open source tools and compilers?
[23:16] <Neaai> Xylia: are you having any other software running for install/update ?
[23:16] <yellcard> I have Two server with squid proxy. Two proxy run :) But I want to connect to one proxy -> the second proxy -> internet how to make link between the proxy ?
[23:16] <Neaai> Xylia: synaptic for eg ?
[23:16] <Xylia> Neaai: No, I don't think so.
[23:16] <sysrpl> or, how can i change the subtile font in vlc? because i changed it to another ttf already and it still looks like the same crappy subtitle font ... i.e. my changing the subtitle font seemed to have no effect
[23:16] <cvd-pr> Hello there, i have installed postgresql, how can i disable the postgresql server to start automatically? i dont see it in services settings
[23:16] <rockyrock> shafi: worked???
[23:16] <gnutron> Xylia: is a package manager running?
[23:16] <N-A> !proxychaining
[23:16] <shafi> rockyrock: not yet
[23:16] <zsquareplusc> N-A: yeah, ubuntu tries to move some stuff to the users side and automate it. likey they are doing it now for the network manager too. sometimes this works well, sometimes it needs some getting used to it
[23:17] <shafi> I think its loading
[23:17] <Gallez> is there a way to restore the default settings of the upper and lower bar in ubuntu 8.10?
[23:17] <sysrpl> i am having a problem and need some help please. i am trying to play a video on ibex with totem, andd the video has some external subtitle files which totem doesn't work with (i think). the subtitle files are in vobsub idx and sub foramt. i believe the sub is not actually a textfile (which totem expect?) ... my question is how can i get totem to display the subtitles?
[23:17] <Gallez> i messed it all up by accident
[23:17] <Oneiroii> yellcard: Why daisy-chain local proxies?
[23:17] <draco1234> SpinachHead, well, either way you will probably install it again yourself, to get rid of any possible junk they put on, or to get a newer version, or fix the partitions better. So just get whatever hardware you like better. I got a dell, am happy with it.
[23:17] <Xylia> Gnutron/Neaai: Oh, actually, it, is.
[23:17] <aneqrs> shafi: First, you need to identify. Google "freenode identify"
[23:17] <nat2610> I recently upgraded to 8.10 and now I have a sound issue, after a few hours my sound stop working... it wasn't like that before, I guess the sound dev is used by a process that never give it back or soemthing like that but I don't know what to look for ... is it a known issue ?
[23:17] <GodfatherofEire> If I was to create a USB startup disk with an iso other than Ubuntu disk, how would I do that?
[23:17] <gnutron> Xylia: try using synaptic
[23:17] <Fezzler> I know silly.  But how can I determine the location of the Trash icon on my desktop?  I want to change it.
[23:17] <shafi> what is that?
[23:17] <rockyrock> shafi: what do you mean by not yet??? It must go directly there =-O
[23:17] <Sk8rdude> does anyone have any pure-ftpd experience??
[23:17] <zsquareplusc> Fezzler: yes, both are open source and run on windows, linux and macosx. so all your friends will be able to play your games :-)
[23:17] <SpinachHead> Hmm,yeah, I should price out a dell too
[23:17] <shafi> no it doesn't work
[23:17] <shafi> to me
[23:17] <yellcard> this is not local proxy Oneiroii
[23:17] <TMN_> hey is there a way to make ubuntu workspace switcher wrap around to the first workspace when i'm at the last?
[23:17] <Guest34521> HOW can I disable Roamin mode?
[23:18] <shafi> "/join ##java"
[23:18] <mezquitale> anyone know how big is the update to 8.10?  If it's not gigs then Im thinking about doing it right now on the library using my wireless connection
[23:18] <VladU1> ﻿Hi all! Who can help me with corrupted bookmarks in firefox (places.sqlite ) plz?
[23:18] <Delvien> I am having an issue with USB's mounting very slowly. This only happens on my desktop and never my laptop.
[23:18] <tigin88> also on startup it saying  Postgresql reported the following error:
[23:18] <tigin88> could not connect to server: Connection refused Is the server running on host "localhost" and accepting TCP/IP connections on port 5432?
[23:18] <tigin88> You can configure Postgresql in the Collection section under Settings->Configure Amarok
[23:18] <Oneiroii> Ah
[23:18] <Xylia> Gnutron: Using it how? I just closed it the build-essential command stopped returning those errors, but now it can't find the build-essential package.
[23:18] <GodfatherofEire> mezquitale, its a pretty large upgrade
[23:18] <mezquitale> shafi:   you need to register your nickname in order to join the #java channel
[23:18] <zsquareplusc> Guest34521: use the network manager to configure. system->prefs->network in 8.10
[23:18] <mezquitale> !nick
[23:18] <Fezzler> zsquareplusc: See that guy wrote a Tetris type game for iPhone and made $250,000 in 4 days at $4.50 a pop
[23:18] <rockyrock> shafi: ok try "/join #java"
[23:19] <mezquitale> !nick| shafi
[23:19] <Bern684> hi I have a guestion I have just updated my acer one to ubuntu 8.10 and need to know how to get my wireless connection working any ideas?
[23:19] <Delvien> mezquitale: weird, thats pinging me
[23:19] <shafi> !nick| shafi
[23:19] <Guest34521> zsquareplusc: yes but I don't see where to set it
[23:19] <tigin88> SimAtWork: Postgresql reported the following error:
[23:19] <tigin88> could not connect to server: Connection refused Is the server running on host "localhost" and accepting TCP/IP connections on port 5432?
[23:19] <tigin88> You can configure Postgresql in the Collection section under Settings->Configure Amarok
[23:19] <Neaai> Xylia: hmmm. Then open synaptic and do a search with the keyword "build". A list will appear and see to find "build-essential" there.
[23:19] <GodfatherofEire> Bern684, did you do a fresh install or an update?
[23:19] <SimAtWork> tigin88: i wouldn't use postgresql.. just use sqllite.
[23:20] <Bern684> update
[23:20] <SimAtWork> tigin88: oor maybe mysql.
[23:20] <zsquareplusc> Fezzler: games for mobiles are a different thing. there are 2 or 3 systems to write software. one is Java MDI.
[23:20] <SimAtWork> tigin88: but really.... use sqlite!
[23:20] <Neaai> Xylia: or build-essentials   . I think it's build-essential though
[23:20] <mezquitale> Delvien:  you mean you got a PM from obotu?
[23:20] <gnutron> Xylia: its in the devel repo, that must be enables first, use synaptic/repositories
[23:20] <Oneiroii> Oh, oh, I got one!  Is there a tiny little GUI app (or Gnome panel app, or tray app) that will switch the status of a hardware WLAN switch (think laptops)?  Bonus points if it can change the status of the light on the button, too!
[23:20] <cvd-pr> ?
[23:20] <zsquareplusc> Guest34521: you want to have a static IP, or what exactly means disabling roaming mode for you?
[23:20] <tigin88> SimAtWork:how do i change those settings
[23:20] <Flannel> gnutron: build-essential is in main, he's got it enabled already.
[23:20] <GodfatherofEire> Bern684, that seems to be a problem with the update, a fresh install seems to have to be done, because I had the same problem when I upgraded mine
[23:20] <Delvien> mezquitale:  highlights it as though you said my name
[23:21] <SimAtWork> tigin88: settings->configure amarok->collection, collection database at the bottom
[23:21] <Guest34521> zsquareplusc: I want to do this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper section : 3.6.2. Configuring Wireless Network Settings using network-admin
[23:21] <Sk8rdude> does anyone have any ftpd experience??
[23:21] <GodfatherofEire> Anybody know how I might create a USB startup disk with a non-Ubuntu .iso?
[23:21] <SimAtWork> Sk8rdude: avoid it.  ftp is not safe.  use sftp!
[23:21] <Delvien> I am having an issue with USB's mounting very slowly. This only happens on my desktop and never my laptop.
[23:21] <wookienz> Sk8rdude: funny, i just installed it myself right now
[23:21] <Bern684> GodfatherofEire please no, it took nearly 5 hours as it was
[23:21] <draco1234> poor Sk8rdude, you've been saying that for hours
[23:21] <Xylia> Neaai: I can't find build-essentials. I'm not sure how out-of-date the list I'm using is, since I'm working on setting up wireless now.
[23:22] <GodfatherofEire> Bern684, there was one way to fix it though
[23:22] <Sk8rdude> SimAtWork: it also has a massive cpu overhead which i can't deal with
[23:22] <Xylia> gnutron: I can't find synaptic/repositories either
[23:22] <shafi> hello
[23:22] <Izinucs> I'm doing the latest update (with the new kernel) and update asked me if I wanted to keep the local version of menu.lst or install package maintainers version or (several options). What's the best choice?
[23:22] <gnutron> Xylia: its build-essential maybe intrepid doesnt have it. but should
[23:22] <Fezzler> What are other popular IRC clients for Ubuntu besides Gaim and Xchat?
[23:22] <GodfatherofEire> Bern684, I upgraded the day after, so not too many people were able to help me out, see if some of the senior aides here can help you out.
[23:23] <Neaai> Xylia: Flannel mentioned that build-essential is in the main repos. It's odd you can't find it.
[23:23] <mezquitale> GodfatherofEire:  in that case I will not upgrade it over here then, I have about an hour and a half but I can wait until I get home
[23:23] <forcumang> build-essential does not come with intrepid
[23:23] <Sk8rdude> Fezzler: pidgin works well enough for me
[23:23] <Izinucs> Fezzler: irssi for terminal..
[23:23] <forcumang> irssi ftw
[23:23] <GodfatherofEire> mezquitale, a word of warning
[23:23] <Flannel> Xylia: Please pastebin the output of this command: sudo apt-get updat
[23:23] <zsquareplusc> Bern684: you had wireless before and now not anymore? what card type is it?
[23:23] <SimAtWork> Sk8rdude: uhm.... i've used sftp on my olpc with no noticible impact on the cpu.
[23:23] <Flannel> Xylia: er, sudo apt-get update
[23:23] <Izinucs> Sk8rdude: pidgin you might like until you try a real irc client.. pidgin just gets you by.
[23:23] <Oneiroii> Fezzler: I'm loving LostIRC at the moment
[23:23] <Xylia> Neaai: I'm just supposed to open Synaptic Package Manager and search for build-essential, right?
[23:23] <Fezzler> Izinucs: Love irssi - steep learning curve
[23:23] <SimAtWork> Sk8rdude: what is it yu're doing that the overhead concerns you so much?
[23:24] <gnutron> Xylia: search in synaptic for gcc and recommended packages
[23:24] <Neaai> Xylia: yes. And also do what Flannel said.
[23:24] <Izinucs> Xylia: no.. open a terminal and type.. sudo apt-get install build-essential
[23:24] <Fezzler> Oneiroii: HMM. Lost IRC.
[23:24] <GodfatherofEire> mezquitale, dont update it, if your gonna switch to 8.10, use a fresh install
[23:24] <dwhsix> is it true sony vaio laptops have more ubuntu compatibility issues than other laptops?
[23:24] <Sk8rdude> lzinucs: it depends what you want out of an irc client... for the average user that's only 1 server and 1 channel
[23:24] <draco1234> Fezzler, run synaptic, enter "irc" in the search field
[23:24] <forcumang> Sk8rdude: never
[23:24] <Neaai> Izinucs: lol. As always there's more than one way to get things done in *nix
[23:24] <Izinucs> Fezzler: yep.. I like it too.. have you tried it with screen?
[23:24] <Izinucs> Neaai: yep :)
[23:24] <Xylia> Flannel: sudo apt-get update returns a huge list of Err/could not resolve and W:Failed to fetch...
[23:25] <forcumang> Sk8rdude: that's what you think the average user is, but most people i know are on at least 2 networks
[23:25] <Sk8rdude> SimAtWork: i'm running it on a NAS box with an ARM processor
[23:25] <Fezzler> Fresh install always better IMHO.  I put data on second harddrive and mount as /home.  Keep system on boot drive
[23:25] <Oneiroii> Xylia: Are you trying to do an update with no net connection?
[23:25] <bakarat> hmm, the "zoom" function i so loved in totem that worked in 7.10, does not seem to work in 8.10 anymore?
[23:25] <bakarat> is there a fix?
[23:25] <Neaai> Xylia: so you seem to have a dependency problem as well.
[23:25] <Flannel> Xylia: please pastebin the output
[23:25] <Fezzler> Izinucs: Yup
[23:25] <Flannel> !paste | Xylia
[23:25] <cvd-pr> when i try to join the ubuntu-es, say it doesnot exits!
[23:25] <Flannel> cvd-pr: /join #ubuntu-es
[23:26] <gnutron> cvd-pr: #ubuntu-es
[23:26] <Sk8rdude> SimAtWork: you can also configure ftp for public use a hell of a lot easier, especially for NAT navigation etc
[23:26] <cvd-pr> ubuntu-es :That channel doesn't exist
[23:26] <mezquitale> who here is using 8.10, are there a lot of difference between 8.04???
[23:26] <forcumang> cvd-pr: they said type #ubuntu-es, not ubuntu-es
[23:26] <shafi> is it java chat?
[23:26] <zsquareplusc> cvd-pr: the # is part of the channel name
[23:26] <bakarat> mezquitale, well depends...i notice a number of differences on my laptop
[23:26] <bakarat> mezquitale, everything just seems to go a little smoother (stuff like webcam, vmware,...)
[23:26] <Oneiroii> mezquitale: 8.10 has a bunch more "it just works" type stuff for me - using my Ericsson as a USB modem, for example
[23:26] <cvd-pr>  services. sets mode +e cvd-pr
[23:26] <cvd-pr> * ubuntu-es :That channel doesn't exis
[23:26] <cvd-pr> ok
[23:26] <forcumang> ...
[23:27] <forcumang> stop pasting retarded stuff
[23:27] <Flannel> Xylia: oh, are you not connected to the internet at all?
[23:27] <SimAtWork> Sk8rdude: actually.. nat is easier with sftp over ftp.  everything over port 22!
[23:27] <ardchoille> mezquitale: the one thing I like about 8.10 is that Nautilus now has a tabbed ui
[23:27] <mezquitale> bakarat:  do you use gnome or kde? did they make changes to the menu style like in KDE4?
[23:27] <ardchoille> although it doesn't work very well
[23:27] <bakarat> mezquitale, i'm using gnome and there are no changes in the menu that i noticed
[23:27] <Sk8rdude> SimAtWork: ever considered using 22 isn't such a good thing?
[23:27] <Baba_B00ie> i love 8.10 personally.. noticed a lot of great changes.. but did notice nautilus / samba don't like to play well with my windows network.. where 8.04 worked great on my windows network
[23:27] <DrUnKnMuNkY> i can't connect to any encrypted wireless networks. can anyone help?
[23:27] <SimAtWork> Sk8rdude: anyhow, i make it a rule not to help people with ftpd, if they don't know how to do it, they probably shouldn't be using it considering it's an unencrypted protocol!
[23:27] <forcumang> same.
[23:27] <forcumang> meh
[23:27] <SimAtWork> Sk8rdude: no.  never.
[23:28] <bakarat> ye, 8.10 is kickass so far, except the totem bussiness :p
[23:28] <SimAtWork> Sk8rdude: but you can change the port if you don't like port 22.
[23:28] <bakarat> i loved my zoom function :(
[23:28] <forcumang> i'd rather just block out all other machines and setup an ftp
[23:28] <forcumang> fuck xfering over network
[23:28] <[T]ank> Oneiroii: I see what the issue is... I am having to manually add a route everytime the network restarts. Where do I statically set this?
[23:28] <Flannel> forcumang: please watch your language
[23:28] <woody86> can anyone help me out, when I boot into 64bit Ubuntu on my 64bit computer, the first thing the screen flashes at me is some error about something in my bio not being correct, and that it's going to cost me 64mb of RAM? Any ideas?
[23:28] <Neaai> bakarat: what's with totem in 8.10 ?
[23:28] <forcumang> Flannel: sorry.
[23:28] <gnutron> forcumang: scp is far better
[23:28] <Sk8rdude> i do know what i'm doing but for some reason some switches are being ignored while others aren't
[23:28] <mezquitale> bakarat:  thank you for the info, I am going to try it on my laptop first and see how it goes, if i like it then ill upgrade my desktop as well
[23:28] <bakarat> Neaai, well i can't seem to zoom anymore (used to be R & T buttons)
[23:28] <Baba_B00ie> forcumang, i did just that. setup an ftp server
[23:28] <forcumang> gnutron: scp too, anything, except smb
[23:28] <bakarat> mezquitale, i updated both as well, and glad i did :>
[23:29] <Xylia1> Sorry, internet died briefly
[23:29] <Neaai> bakarat: ah I see. I don't have 8.10 yet so didn't know.
[23:29] <tigin88> SimAtWork: still not working switched settings to sqllite,my music finally showed up in amarock>collection, but i am still having problems m i loading it wrong playlist>add stream http://www.977music.com/tunein/web/hitz.asx
[23:29] <Sk8rdude> SimAtWork: if you would rather talk me through creating users which are chrooted in certain directories but have access to other drives as virtual folders etc etc then please feel free
[23:29] <bakarat> Neaai, i'm not sure if it's a 8.10-related bug, google seems to show the bug was around earlier as well
[23:29] <yellcard> how can i redirect a connexion on port 123 for exemple to an other IP on port 123
[23:29] <Flannel> Xylia: Are you connected to the internet on this other machine?
[23:30] <mezquitale> bakarat:  the most annoying thing is that I have to configure some settings after every kernel update because my Cisco wireless card doesn't work, im hoping I wont have an issue with 8.10
[23:30] <SimAtWork> Sk8rdude: chroot shouldn't be used as a security tool.
[23:30] <forcumang> yellcard: write a program that does it? o.O
[23:30] <vladtsepesh1984> anybody knows a programs to adjust speed fan on ubuntu???
[23:30] <Flannel> mezquitale: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810overview
[23:30] <bakarat> mezquitale, ah, don't know about cisco cards, i have a dell & an intel wireless, they work great
[23:30] <Xylia1> Flannel: I have Vista running on another machine for internet, and I'm trying to get wireless on the one with Ubuntu.
[23:30] <mezquitale> Flannel:  it's an awesome read, thank you!!!
[23:30] <ghrocks> hi everyone, i updated my system kernel yesterday and when i turned my computer on today the grub didn't show up any boot option, it appeared only like if i was on the terminal but it says grub>  and that's all, right now im running the live cd from kuuntu and it's not recognizing me any partition to install, however dolphin can see my partitions, any idea of what can this be???
[23:30] <yellcard> forcumang: with iptable i can't redirect conexion to an other ip ? (not local) ??
[23:30] <zsquareplusc> yellcard: you mean like using ssh with port forwarding?
[23:30] <Flannel> Xylia1: right.  Does the other machine have a CDrom drive? and do you still have your Ubuntu CD?
[23:31] <Sk8rdude> SimAtWork: then how are you meant to do it then without virtual users
[23:31] <Flannel> Xylia1: You obviously can't grab software from the internet on a machine that isn't connected to the internet
[23:31] <forcumang> yellcard: oh, i misread
[23:31] <cvd-pr> how to disable postgresql form starting automatically, i dont see it in services settings
[23:31] <yellcard> zsquareplusc: not only http packet
[23:31] <Intrepid> I installed k9copy, tried to open the handbook, and khelpcenter said it doesn't exist. How do I solve this?
[23:31] <zsquareplusc> yellcard: its forwarind TCP/IP
[23:31] <yellcard> zsquareplusc: exactly
[23:31] <Neaai> Xylia: what does "lspci" say for you? You've determined you have a   BCM4312 based hardware (device ID 4315)  ?
[23:32] <Xylia1> Flannel: No, I don't have the liveUSB I used, but I could download it again.
[23:32] <zsquareplusc> yellcard: so that qualifies as not only http :p  if you want UDP say that ;-)
[23:32] <bakarat> cvd-pr, well i haven't used postgresql too much, but i would say, have a look at /etc/rc1.d (and rc2.d etc)
[23:32] <bakarat> cvd-pr, might be a startup script in there
[23:32] <yellcard> zsquareplusc: ohhh yesss ssory
[23:32] <Flannel> Xylia1: You need to get the right packages on that machine somehow.  The iso will have it, or ... an easier way, can you plug that machine in to ethernet temporarily?
[23:33] <cvd-pr> bakarat, i use this to stopit   sudo /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.3 start
[23:33] <forcumang> oh, isn't there some new app on ubuntu that makes startup usb's?
[23:33] <tigin88> 	SimAtWork: still not working switched settings to sqllite,my music finally showed up in amarock>collection, but i am still having problems m i loading it wrong playlist>add stream http://www.977music.com/tunein/web/hitz.asx
[23:33] <Flannel> forcumang: There is
[23:33] <yellcard> zsquareplusc: so how can  i do it ???
[23:33] <bakarat> cvd-pr, you mean "stop" at the end presumably? :p
[23:33] <bakarat> cvd-pr, the auto-start has to be scripted somewhere, probably in the rcx.d directories
[23:33] <yellcard> zsquareplusc: you have an idea ?
[23:33] <forcumang> Flannel: what's it called?
[23:33] <zsquareplusc> yellcard: use ssh with tcp port forwarding and udptunnel. or use a VPN solution like OpenVPN
[23:33] <bakarat> anyway i'm off, gonna watch my non-maximized-because-zoom-doesn't-work series :'(
[23:33] <cvd-pr> bakarat, ok let me check
[23:34] <Flannel> forcumang: I have no idea.  It's under System > Admin, something about a USB somethign or other
[23:34] <nsteinme> can someone help me edit my xorg.conf file to change my resolution?
[23:34] <forcumang> k
[23:34] <Jordan_U_> Xylia1: Can you connect via a wired connection temporarily?
[23:34] <Xylia1> Neaai: lspci gives a large chunk of text. The network controller line is "03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)"
[23:34] <forcumang> yeah there it is
[23:34] <Sk8rdude> nsteinme are you using 8.10?
[23:34] <forcumang> whats the direct URL for ubuntu intrepid desktop iso? 32-bit?
[23:34] <Xylia1> Flannel: I unfortunately don't have access to ethernet.
[23:34] <Oneiroii> Anyone that was talking to me in the last five minutes, resend - had a phone call
[23:34] <Baba_B00ie> forcumang,  that usb app thing your talking about has been around since 7.10 i think.. but was included with 810 by default
[23:34] <yit_> I'm having a problem getting apps to start on bootup- I have the command "sudo firestarter" in the sessions menu to startup at boot, but it only does when I log out, and log back in. Any help?
[23:34] <yellcard> zsquareplusc: Yes i think about openVPN but, i was not sure.. but thanks you very much :)
[23:34] <Neaai> yellcard:   http://www.ssh.com/support/documentation/online/ssh/adminguide/32/Port_Forwarding.html
[23:34] <Flannel> Xylia1: then you'll have to use sneakernet
[23:34] <forcumang> Baba_B00ie: oh, i see
[23:35] <U-b-u-n-t-u> anyone know if there is a good step by step on how to get the 3d cube to work? I have compiz installed etc might just be a setting issue but I have no idea what
[23:35] <Flannel> forcumang: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[23:35] <Flannel> !ccsm > U-b-u-n-t-u
[23:35] <yellcard> Neaai: you're a genious thanks you :)
[23:35] <Oneiroii> U-b-u-n-t-u: Do you have compiz-config installed?
[23:35] <Xylia1> Flannel: Okay, what do I need to download?
[23:35] <mon^rch> yit_: try gksu firestarter
[23:35] <DrUnKnMuNkY> i can't connect to any encrypted wireless networks. can anyone help?
[23:35] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Oneiroii yes
[23:35] <Baba_B00ie> forcumang, i haven't used it yet and am very interested to see how it works.. when i can i gonna get me an extra usb 4gig key and check that out
[23:35] <koshar1> U-b-u-n-t-u you need the advanced settings config installed
[23:35] <nsteinme> sk8rdude, no i am using 8.04 hardy
[23:36] <Baba_B00ie> forcumang, wonder if it's faster than booting from a optical drive
[23:36] <Neaai> Xylia: your first stop is the ubuntu forums search for those hardware identifiers. And also google search with "BCM4312   ubuntu"   (no quotes for the search)
[23:36] <VladU1> quit
[23:36] <forcumang> Baba_B00ie: it should be, USB 2.0 > CD-Rom
[23:36] <forcumang> and dvd
[23:36] <U-b-u-n-t-u> koshar1,  ok let me check if i have that installed one sec
[23:37] <Neaai> Xylia: there could be an exact solution for your hardware specific for Ubuntu tailored.
[23:37] <Baba_B00ie> forcumang, i would imagine it would be too.. who knows..  but like i said can't wait to check it out
[23:37] <Flannel> Xylia1: Um, that'd depend on what you're set up is.  I'm unfortunately not a real big wireless guy.  But, I have wiki pages!  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Hardy
[23:37] <Sk8rdude> nsteinme: try this then http://www.linux.com/feature/118108
[23:37] <d1os_mio> ubuntu rulez
[23:37] <forcumang> ah that source ain't too fast is it
[23:37] <forcumang> :/
[23:37] <tigin88> 	SimAtWork: still not working switched settings to sqllite,my music finally showed up in amarock>collection, but i am still having problems m i loading it wrong playlist>add stream http://www.977music.com/tunein/web/hitz.asx
[23:37] <Neaai> yellcard:  you're welcome. A link sometimes is worth a thousand words :)
[23:38] <zsquareplusc> forcumang: there is alose a torrent
[23:38] <nsteinme> sk8rdude, thanks for the link i will try it out
[23:38] <raw> Hi, does anyone here know how to manually prepare the partitions for an ubuntu 8.10 install?
[23:38] <Xylia1> Neaai/Flannel: I think I found the driver I need to get wireless set up (http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php), but the installation was what was initially giving me trouble.
[23:38] <forcumang> ew, forget torrents. :P
[23:38] <Flannel> Xylia1: I don't believe you'll need to compile anything (you won't need build-essential), and I'm not sure if you'll need to use ndiswrapper either.  It appears you need b43-fwcutter
[23:38] <tigin88> 	SimAtWork: still not working switched settings to sqllite,my music finally showed up in amarock>collection, but i am still having problems, am i loading it wrong playlist>add stream http://www.977music.com/tunein/web/hitz.asx
[23:38] <yellcard> Neaai: it's great :)
[23:39] <Flannel> Xylia1: No, You generally don't go to the hardware mfcs websites for linux issues, you go to the distros page.  You need that package I mentioned, which is in universe.   ARe you using hardy or intrepid?
[23:39] <raw> I'm not sure if partitions shoudl be primary or logical... beginning or end.. where the mount point should be... Does anyone?
[23:39] <forcumang> raw: logical beginning
[23:39] <wookienz> i need ot get some nitty gritty information about a domain and why it is not resolving...any suggested websites which go in to deatil over spf etc.
[23:39] <forcumang> mount point= /
[23:39] <Flannel> Xylia1: Also, are you on 32bit or 64bit?
[23:40] <forcumang> swap needs to also be made, logical beginning, no mount point
[23:40] <raw> ForceDestroyer,for bot hthe swap and the regular one?
[23:40] <forcumang> raw: swap does not give a mount point
[23:40] <forcumang> and i'm not forcedestroyer
[23:41] <raw> sorry :(
[23:41] <forcumang> :P
[23:41] <raw> what do i do for swap?
[23:41] <Xylia2> My brother keeps knocking out the internet...
[23:41] <n8tuser> raw however, you can create a file and make that as an image and mount it then make it as swap
[23:41] <forcumang> 4mb maybe
[23:41] <gnutron> wookienz: type whois domain.name in a term or use dig
[23:41] <U-b-u-n-t-u> koshar1, compiz is installed and compiz setting manager and python manger
[23:41] <Neaai> Xylia: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=600097  http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=698924   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=913180
[23:41] <Flannel> Xylia1: No, You generally don't go to the hardware mfcs websites for linux issues, you go to the distros page.  You need that package I mentioned, which is in the repos.   ARe you using hardy or intrepid?
[23:41] <Flannel> Neaai: No, that's wrong.
[23:41] <Xylia2> Flannel: I'm using Hardy.
[23:41] <Flannel> Xylia1: Are you using Hardy or Intrepid? and 32 or 64bit?
[23:42] <Neaai> Xylia: As you see, different hardware setups have different results
[23:42] <Xylia2> Flannel: Er, Inteprid. 32 bit.
[23:42] <imc_> so looks like rww is gone; any mac ubuntu folks on?
[23:42] <raw> forcumang, so i just leave the mount point blank for the swap?
[23:42] <Jordan_U_> imc_: What is your question?
[23:42] <forcumang> raw: it does not give you a choice for it
[23:42] <Flannel> Xylia2: Alright.  This is the package you'll need to sneakernet  over: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/b43-fwcutter  and here's a link to the package (well, choose a mirror): http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/i386/b43-fwcutter/download
[23:42] <forcumang> its blank by default
[23:42] <Xylia2> And I just did get ethernet on the computer I'm trying to set up.
[23:42] <macjason0607> help http://paste.ubuntu.com/77892/
[23:42] <Flannel> Xylia2: Ah, alright then.
[23:42] <sysrpl> i am having a problem and need some help please. i am trying to play a video on ibex with totem, andd the video has some external subtitle files which totem doesn't work with (i think). the subtitle files are in vobsub idx and sub foramt. i believe the sub is not actually a textfile (which totem expect?) ... my question is how can i get totem to display the subtitles?
[23:43] <sysrpl> anyone?
[23:43] <imc_> Jordan_U thanks; if I have rEFIT installed can I burn OSX entirely or MUST I keep it dual boot?
[23:43] <Flannel> Xylia2: Open up synaptic package manager, hit reload, then install b43-fwcutter
[23:43] <forcumang> sysrpl: you gave about one second for all to read that paragraph
[23:43] <forcumang> :o
[23:43] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I followed the link ubottu sent me and went to the # it sent me to ( no one there) everything is installed just need to know if there is a good step by step oh how to get the 3d cude to work?
[23:43] <raw> forcumang, how do I get to the create swap menu then?  I can only see new partition table, new partition, edit aprtition, delete partition
[23:43] <Jordan_U_> Flannel: That package won't be helpful without an internet connection or an also sneakernet'd driver file to extract the firmware from
[23:43] <raw> ooooh, use as: swap area
[23:43] <forcumang> raw: New Partition -> swap area
[23:43] <forcumang> yes
[23:43] <n8tuser> U-b-u-n-t-u-> try google to find a tutorial
[23:44] <Neaai> Xylia: Flannel has more detailed info on what you require. My wifi experience and ubuntu have the shape of Atheros AR24xx and amd64  combination.
[23:44] <raw> forcumang, thank you so much
[23:44] <forcumang> np
[23:44] <draco1234> sysrpl, I don't know your exact issue, but I know that you can solve a lot of problems by using "vlc" instead of "totem" .. vlc has support for a ton of formats
[23:44] <Flannel> Jordan_U_: that's ndiswrapper, fwcutter extracts the firmware from the card
[23:44] <Pretto> where "configu display  settings" store informations?
[23:44] <Neaai> In my opinion, when you can "not use" ndiswrapper, don't use it. Use it when all else fails.
[23:45] <Flannel> Xylia2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Hardy has more information on the entire process (assume no large changes from Hardy, except version numbers)
[23:45] <Jordan_U_> Flannel: No, fwcutter extracts the firmware from the driver ( the card doesn't have the firmware, if it did then there would be no need for the OS to load it )
[23:45] <g33k> How to change IP to static IP
[23:45] <Neaai> !interfaces
[23:45] <shafi_> can some one help me how to be identified to join a channel?
[23:45] <sysrpl> draco1234: well i am having a problem with vlc and subtitles fonts as well
[23:45] <Neaai> !interface
[23:45] <forcumang> Jordan_U_: why would the OS load firmware into your hardware?
[23:45] <Jordan_U_> Flannel: The driver is not released under a distributable license so the package must download the driver from broadcom
[23:45] <Oneiroii> g33k: PM me, I'll walk you through
[23:46] <Xylia2> Flannel: I reloaded it and it seemed to download quite a bit, but searching for b43-fwcutter still doesn't show up anything.
[23:46] <sysrpl> draco1234: how can i change the subtile font in vlc? because i changed it to another ttf already and it still looks like the same crappy subtitle font ... i.e. my changing the subtitle font seemed to have no effect
[23:46] <shafi_> can some one help me how to be identified to join a channel?
[23:46] <Pretto> g33k, look at /etc/network/interfaces
[23:46] <Flannel> !register > shafi_
[23:46] <Jordan_U_> forcumang: For many devices the firmware is not stored in non volatile memory
[23:46] <Flannel> Jordan_U_: Feel free to take over, I'm not a wireless guy.
[23:46] <SuperGeek> Where are the plugins for Firefox stored in Ubuntu?
[23:47] <draco1234> sysrpl, did you close vlc after saving the setting, and then open it again? sometimes it does not take the settings till you close it and then re-run it
[23:47] <sysrpl> draco1234: yes i did
[23:47] <forcumang> well, when i think of hardware using firmware, i think of hardware needing firmware to function.. its like a mini operating system for the specific hardware, am i wrong?
[23:47] <koshar1> ﻿ U-b-u-n-t-u  system > preferences > advanced desktop effects then tick desktop cube abd rotate cube.
[23:47] <sysrpl> draco1234: it uses ttf files
[23:47] <Flannel> forcumang: thats more or less accurate, yes
[23:48] <draco1234> sysrpl: have you tried that for any other fonts, or just that one?
[23:48] <Neaai> forcumang: more like a bios of a sort in my eyes.
[23:48] <forcumang> so i don't really see ubuntu injecting firmware into someones hardware without asking
[23:48] <forcumang> oh, he left
[23:48] <forcumang> :/
[23:48] <sysrpl> draco1234: i unzipped a few on my hd to change the font ... but where are ttf normall kept in ubutu?
[23:48] <sysrpl> draco1234: i only tried arial black which i had to download
[23:48] <Xylia2> Flannel: Oh, it just showed up. I'm not sure what changed, but here it is. I marked it for installation; how do I actually make it install?
[23:48] <sysrpl> draco1234: where are the other fonts ttf kept on ubuntu?
[23:49] <Jordan_U> forcumang: I'm still here, there is enough to bootstrap and allow loading by the OS of the rest of the firmware
[23:49] <forcumang> oh
[23:49] <shafi_> ubottu: I have did the steps for registration but when I want to join a channel I get this message : * ##java :You need to be identified to join that channel
[23:49] <Flannel> Xylia2: hit apply
[23:49] <forcumang> I have did?
[23:50] <djsiegel1> So, my apps keep segfaulting all of the time. I ran memtest and it said pass complete, no errors. Do I just need to let it run overnight so it keeps checking?
[23:50] <forcumang> :P
[23:50] <LF|Irssi> shafi_: did you get an email from freenode?
[23:50] <djsiegel1> I really think I have some messed up memory.
[23:50] <zsquareplusc> shafi_: /msg nickserv help
[23:50] <Neaai> Take care all. I'm off.
[23:50] <Xylia2> Thanks for your help, Neaai.
[23:50] <shafi_> no
[23:50] <LF|Irssi> freenode will send you a email
[23:50] <shafi_> ok I will check now
[23:50] <LF|Irssi> :)
[23:50] <sysrpl> draco1234: ?
[23:50] <Neaai> Xylia2: you're welcome.
[23:50] <sysrpl> does anyone know where ttf files are under ubuntu?
[23:50] <zsquareplusc> LF|Irssi: only if you set an email. you can also register w/o email
[23:51] <LF|Irssi> well ya, but that's not secure
[23:51] <tigin88> 	SimAtWork: still not working switched settings to sqllite,my music finally showed up in amarock>collection, but i am still having problems m i loading it wrong playlist>add stream http://www.977music.com/tunein/web/hitz.asx
[23:51] <draco1234> sysrpl, sorry, i was looking... they seem to be in /usr/share/fonts/truetype
[23:51] <LF|Irssi> so :P
[23:51] <Oneiroii> sysrpl: /usr/share/fonts or ~/.fonts
[23:51] <larry> anyone know a good dvd burner for movie's
[23:51] <forcumang> is there a package w/ extra fonts?
[23:51] <sysrpl> draco1234: thanks, i'll try with vlc
[23:51] <SimAtWork> tigin88: i'm sorry.  I don't think amarok plays asx.... i've been looking and i can't get it to play
[23:51] <demon_> larry, the one that comes with ubuntu
[23:51] <demon_> :)
[23:51] <gnutron> forcumang: msscorefonts is a package, i think
[23:51] <Xylia> Flannel: b43-fwcutter is now installed. What should I do now?
[23:52] <Oneiroii> msttcorefonts
[23:52] <gnutron> Oneiroii: thanks
[23:52] <Oneiroii> :)
[23:52] <larry> ok i will try again it is just burning them as a file my home theiter will not see it
[23:52] <tigin88> SimAtWork: alright ill some alternative
[23:53] <tigin88> SimAtWork:thank you for your help
[23:53] <Oneiroii> larry: If you're using Brasero, make sure to start a Video Disc project
[23:53] <umbooootoo> hi
[23:53] <darkness> Whenever I try to run a fullscreen OpenGL game with my restricted driver enabled, my screen is all fuzzy and I can't really see anything... but with the driver disabled it's too slow to do anything... does anybody know how I can fix this? I am using an ATI Radeon 2100 integrated GPU
[23:53] <zsquareplusc> larry: devede may be one of the applications you are looking for
[23:53] <Oneiroii> Otherwise it defaults to thinking you want to write data, I believe
[23:54] <Jordan_U> Xylia2: Download these two files to a usb drive: http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o http://mirror2.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2
[23:54] <ericjung_> is anyone able to download the xorg.conf file attached to this thread? I was able to yesterday but not now: http://backports.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=828588
[23:54] <miik> darkness, i guess it means both device drivers sucks, or your graphics card sucks
[23:54] <sysrpl> nope, vlc is displaying the same crappy font
[23:54] <wookienz> i tried the live cd last night but my underlying OS is windows on a striped raid array. the only options for the live cd to partition the drive was either one or the other drive and nothte srtiped array itseld. I have a feeling that it would erase the raid array if i installed it on one disck. any ideas on livecd install on a raid array already built?
[23:54] <miik> Daremonai, , you might want to check in #ati too
[23:54] <larry> ok thanks
[23:54] <sysrpl> draco1234: thanks for the attempt
[23:55] <miik> darkness, you might want to check in #ati too
[23:55] <yeroplan> does anyone know when lyx will be automatically updated?
[23:55] <darkness> miik, where would that be?
[23:55] <LF|Irssi> miik: saying someones hardware or whatever sucks, is very rude :/   theres other ways of putting that.
[23:55] <draco1234> sysrpl, is it vlc 0.9.4?
[23:55] <ericjung_> is anyone able to download the xorg.conf file attached to this thread? I was able to yesterday but not now: http://backports.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=828588
[23:56] <sysrpl> bbtw, this hasn't hit the news yet, but the recent terrorist attacks inMumbai were baed on a movie with the same plot
[23:56] <Jordan_U> Xylia1: Still here?
[23:56] <miik> darkness, #ati here on freenode
[23:56] <edmont> hi
[23:56] <fsufitch> hi. does anybody know how to configure the nvidia-settings to not use the adaptive clocking and just have my gfx card operating at full clock all the time?
[23:56] <edmont> i think i corrupted /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh file, how can i restore it to default?
[23:57] <darkness> miik, ok, thanks for the suggestion... BTW, if my graphics card is really that bad I'll just return the machine as I only bought it about 5 hours ago
[23:57] <ericjung_> please please help.
[23:57] <ericjung_> just download a txt file for me
[23:57] <draco1234> sysrpl, make sure "freetype2" is selected as the text rendering module
[23:57] <djsiegel1> \\\\
[23:57] <djsiegel1> \\
[23:57] <nsteinme> does anyone see a problem with my xorg.conf file? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/77899/
[23:57] <miik> darkness, try using a lower graphics resolution in the game, or lower detail... it could also be the graphics device drivers which are bad
[23:58] <darkness> miik, Ok, I'll try that then.  thanks
[23:58] <dr_willis> ericjung_,   the links are not links.. its not working here either.
[23:58] <wookienz> ive plugged a possibly damaged drive intot he system via ide. it is not showing up using fdisk -l, any other commands i can use to search for it?
[23:58] <ericjung_> dr_willis: what do you mean "they're not links"?
[23:59] <LF|Irssi> after you add stuff to fstab do you have to reboot the computer or just ctrl+alt+backspace?
[23:59] <larry> man it just says it is a diffrent format quess it won't work
[23:59] <zsquareplusc> LF|Irssi: mount -a
[23:59] <Jordan_U> Flannel: I am probably going to leave pretty soon, if Xylia comes back the script that b43-fwcutter runs on configure is: /usr/share/b43-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh or if you don't have fwcutter installed: http://pastebin.com/f2c80f354 from that you should be able to figure out what he needs to do ( or just for future reference )
[23:59] <n8tuser> wookienz-> reboot and get into your bios and see if it is detected there
[23:59] <dr_willis> ericjung aha.. they had the _____stuffUInderlined___ so it looked like a link.. :) how silly of them... lets see if i can get it now
[23:59] <demon_> !jwm
[23:59] <Cabay_Jet> Quick question, what is the configurator for xorg.conf in Xubuntu 8.10 called?
[23:59] <wookienz> n8tuser: unfort it is a server so no screen