[00:48] Hey, is http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3174/3034935516_1fd3a41756_b.jpg an HD error, or an FS error. [00:55] I need some help, I'm trying to send a message through email I have all my settings set up and all I see is sending message and the message I am sending is not very big at all. [00:57] my outgoing server seems to be set correctly but its not sending my message and I wanted to know why [01:01] anyone here that can help me out [01:10] I am having some problems with email can someone help me out [01:15] Mooc1: Try #ubuntu or The ubuntu forum. [01:15] Or your Mail Provider. [01:15] well the problem lies more on Xubuntu because thats what I have [01:16] my server settings are set up correctly but there is something wrong because it is not sending my message [04:19] Hi, I just installed Xubuntu on my Mini 9, and I don't know how to get the wireless going. Any suggestions? [05:34] Anyone here [05:35] no [05:35] k [05:56] anyone a hibernate master? i can get it to hibernate, but not resume === wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla [06:41] hey guys [06:42] I am a newbie to ubuntu (installed xfce 4 [06:43] I cannot get mail in xfce4 using evolution [07:33] is there an "official" way to add crossover to xubuntu? or is dpkg -i just fine? [09:19] Hello, on first install of compiz on my hp compaq nc6220 it works perfectly, now if I log out and log back in, if I try starting compiz again, it trashes the desktop (huge artifacts, menus render as black with random pixels.. desktop unusable) How do I prevent this? I had similar problems with xfce+compiz on gentoo, and could correct things by deleting all sessions, and preventing session saving... but I'm still in the dark (no pun intended re blac [09:19] k desktop :-P) [09:23] hmm, is anyone in? [09:42] Hi. I'm having problems making xubuntu remember my manual network settings. I have to retype them each time I login [10:29] can anyone tell me why i alsways need to tell xfce "to manage the desktop" after a reboot? [10:29] atari, sounds like your saved session is borked. [10:29] atari, after logging in, tell xfce to manage the desktop [10:30] knome: thats what i did [10:30] atari, then log out, but select the checkbox "save session for future logins" [10:30] atari, and log back in. what does it do now? [10:30] i have no checkbox to save the session on the menu with the 6 entries when exiting... [10:31] atari, should be underneath those... which xubuntu version are you using? [10:31] 8.10 [10:31] can you check again? :] [10:32] it's a small box underneath the 6 buttons [10:32] i am sure i have intrepid [10:32] but there is no such box [10:32] ok... [10:32] sounds like a bug or sth [10:32] in the settings somewhere i specified to save the session by default when logging out [10:33] yes, is it on now? [10:33] i'd say so [10:33] ok, what happens if you log out and in? [10:33] mom [10:38] ? [10:38] didnt help [10:38] ok... [10:39] could it have something to do with problems with gnome? [10:39] not really [10:40] is the desktop empty when logging in? [10:40] or is nautilus or sth controlling it? [10:42] its empty and in a strang brown color... [10:43] what if you right click it? [10:43] nothing [10:43] ok [10:43] its possible it has something to do with nautilus... [10:44] as i installed nautilus for bluetooth support. since then i have the problem [10:44] 'ps -A | grep nautilus' in terminal [10:44] does it give output? [10:44] 15458 ? 00:00:00 nautilus [10:44] hm [10:45] ok, if you 'kill 15458' what happens? [10:45] when killing it, its working again [10:45] the desktop? [10:46] well. at least i get the blue desktop as supposed to ;) [10:46] ok. [10:46] then try to log out and in [10:48] ok. now its working as it should [10:49] but how to prevent this happening again after a reboot? [10:55] hmm.. do not save the sessions [10:55] (change the setting) [10:55] and do not run nautilus in xfce [10:55] if you definitely want to run it and not taking over desktop, run it as 'nautilus --no-desktop' [10:56] atari, ^ [10:56] can you tell me where nautilus is getting started? [10:56] i suppose it was saved in the session [10:57] if it's started normally, it will have processes running even if all the windows were closed [10:57] hm [10:58] is there som global config for nautilus where i can specify --no-desktop? [10:59] s/som/some [10:59] yes, in gconf, but afaik changing the setting doesn't actually do anything. [10:59] (it's a bug or not yet implemented) [10:59] and i don't nautilus at all anymore, so i wouldn't know even if it worked [10:59] grmbl... so i have to life with it for the moment... [11:00] is bluetooth the only thing you need nautilus? [11:00] need to go to get some food... [11:00] ok. bon appetit [11:00] merci [11:00] à plus tard ;) [13:49] hi vidd [13:49] hello sinbox [13:52] grrrr @ liblame0-dev [13:52] can't find the bugger in the repos :/ [13:59] sinbox, i dont see it either [13:59] what is requiring it? [13:59] all I find where searching is problems with it :/ [13:59] trying to install MuSE for streaming mp3 [14:00] sinbox, have you added the medibuntu repos? [14:00] !medibuntu [14:00] medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org [14:00] if listeners were a bit more clued up I'd happily stick to ogg [14:00] not sure I have but I did install all the lame packages and libraries I could find [14:00] in fact I've just downloaded the tarball of the latest lame version, might try this now [14:02] which means I probably need to install build-essentials first, I think premature baldness is nearing [14:04] apparently it's supposed to be a symlink to liblame-dev or some such but it doesn't seem like iut got packaged properly or something (getting in way above my head here) [15:25] hello folks, I'm using xubuntu 8.10 - abiword, while trying to print a document, issues this message: "the specified color format is not supported" [15:27] angelo, you trying to print in color on a black and white printer? [15:27] nope, vidd [15:28] do you have "a2ps" installed? [15:28] yes, the converter is installed [15:31] vidd, CUPS is correctly configured and I can print from other applications or from another pc [15:31] angelo, then im out of ideas.... [15:31] * vidd uses OOo or mousepad to print =\ [15:31] hmm, ok [15:40] angelo, what file format did you save that document? [15:41] abw [15:41] try to convert it to a "more standard" file format [15:42] its possible CUPS doesnt understand it =\ [15:44] I will try vidd, thanks for tip [15:50] mmm fluxbox = neat [15:52] What [15:52] What's a fluxbox? [15:52] light windows manager for X [15:53] Ah [15:53] bad-wire, lxde = nice as well (with slim or gdm) [15:53] I like xfce [15:53] * vidd prefers slim [15:54] well, I might try xdm + fluxbox and get rid of all the other stuff on here, in the end it's a matter of personnal preference :) [16:00] Anyone ever have font issues with Wine and Nvidia drivers? I asked in #wine but noone is answering. [16:01] not used wine sorry [16:04] vidd, if I choose odt format abiword prints [16:04] wondering which file is the easiest/best option for me to download to try firefox minefield? i686.complete.mar or i686.tar.bz2 ? [16:05] angelo, =] [16:06] angelo, that means that cups doesnt understand the file format =] [16:06] angelo, file a bug [16:07] ok, knome [16:09] will either of these extract easily and automatically be incorporated to menu? [16:10] mikubuntu, is it an extension? [16:10] is there a possibility to burn a cd using the xubuntu livecd while having only one cd drive? :) [16:12] bye vidd ;) - people [16:12] no, is a nightly build of firefox alpha codename minefield, supposed to be fairly stable and lightning fast .... http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10107591-16.html [16:13] mikubuntu, isn't it firefox 3 then...? [16:14] ubuntu__, no [16:17] thanks vidd [16:18] knome: i don't think so, its beyond 3 [16:20] http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10107591-16.html [16:20] you know how it got the nickname minefield? [16:20] no, do you [16:21] its a codename, not a nickname [16:21] oh i'm sorry prof. [16:21] quite allright, then [16:21] if you've ever looked at the code, its a minefield [16:22] hence the name. it goes back to when they merged a bunch of stuff from the moz and netscape projects [16:22] at least that [16:22] is my understanding [16:23] in what sense, so far i've read two favorable reviews, with recent dating, and the project seems to have been started in 06 or before, so it may have come a long ways [16:23] sure but there are some nightly builds that are aweful [16:24] thats why i'd like to know how to download it seperately from my reg firefox just to try it out [16:25] mikubuntu, you dont [16:26] it installs as firefox [16:26] it will overwrite your existing firefox [16:26] mikubuntu: read the developer documentation [16:27] it is not available as a straight dl [16:29] http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/ one of the reviews i read said you could dl one of these without interfering with your installed version, this is no true? [16:29] mikubuntu, if so, i dunno how [16:30] all i can say is "read thier documentation" [16:30] i don't see how it could be any worse than this ff i'm using now has got SO SLOW on ubuntu [16:31] mikubuntu, this is why i use epiphany =] [16:31] uses the same plugins as ff [16:32] and i always have galeon, epiphany, opera, etc to fall back on ... [16:32] huh??? i dint know epiphany used same plugins as ff ... [16:32] its mozilla based [16:32] u mean same add-ons and extensions? [16:33] mikubuntu, yep [16:33] chatzilla as add on? [16:34] mikubuntu, dunno...i use xchat [16:35] i'll be back in a few. i think i'm going to change my surf shorts :P [16:36] si vidd could I just copy a ff profile to epiphany and get it to work just like that? [16:37] mikubuntu: vidd: I dont know. i just grabbed the latest alpha of ff and its still looking the same to me [16:37] sinbox, i dont know tbh....i never installed ff on that machine to find out =] [16:38] hehe I copy my profile from one machine to another usually, too many things to reinstall and configure by hand otherwise [16:39] me to...but i dont bookmark alot, and i dont have too many passwords to remember [16:40] * vidd tends to copy entire /home directories sometimes =] [16:44] ah well, I movec to linux 2 days after finishing this machine when the XP one died, I have gazillions of passwords actually, so many I have a list of them, all in code obviously [16:49] uhoh spammers trying it out on the forum again [17:02] vidd, i added epiphany through synaptic, but it doesn't appear in the menu, what gives [17:07] vidd, do you use epiphany (gecko)? [17:07] * vinnl does [17:07] mikubuntu, are you sure you installed the epiphany browser? [17:07] mikubuntu, there is a game named epiphany as well [17:07] !info epiphany [17:07] epiphany (source: epiphany): clone of Boulder Dash game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.0-2 (intrepid), package size 82 kB, installed size 288 kB [17:07] !info epiphany-browser [17:07] epiphany-browser (source: epiphany-browser): Intuitive web browser - dummy package. In component main, is optional. Version 2.24.1-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 17 kB, installed size 76 kB [17:07] hello vinnl o/ [17:07] Hi knome :) [17:08] dcolish, did you get it from here: ? http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/ [17:09] knome: yes, i got ephiphany, but it looks like i got the one marked (gecko) and i don't know if thats the one i want or not, don't see anywhere on it to grab addons, do you just go to mozilla site and download them? [17:12] mikubuntu, epiphany doesn't support the same addons as firefox [17:12] afaik [17:13] Only Gecko plugins like Flash support [17:13] And some Epiphany-specific extensions, I believe in epiphany-extensions [17:14] agree [17:15] oh, well, i thought i understood vidd to say it supported same addons and extensions ... [17:15] i'll go now. see you folks later. [17:15] Bye knome [17:16] mikubuntu, it does support extensions, but not Firefox's [17:21] k, thx [17:21] mikubuntu: yes i pulled from that link. usually i built minefield because i want specific build options, but that looks to be a generic build of it [17:23] dcolish: maybe it does look just like ff3, but i read is much faster, what do you think? [17:24] mikubuntu: i have not run any benchmarks, but I reviewed the features and it doesn't look like a lot of new stuff. besides, i build minefield regularly. why dont you just try it out [17:30] cos i don't know how to dl it separately from my reg ff ... [17:30] somebody said it will replace my reg firefox [17:31] they were mistaken. it is a simple tarball. [17:31] you can run it from wherever you untar it [17:33] so, how do i do that ... dl the version thats called tar.bz2 ? [17:34] yes [17:35] k, then what next? just right click and extract on the desktop? how do i make a launcher for it? [17:36] asking me do i want to open with archive manager or save file ? [17:38] save the file [17:39] k, done [17:39] its on desktop now [17:40] so extract it to a place you can remember [17:40] uhhhh, like where? [17:40] depends on what you can remember [17:41] i usually put alpha or experimental software in a folder called workspace [17:41] i can remember desktop. right click offers 'extract here' does that mean extract onto desktop? [17:41] yup [17:42] no prob putting it there? [17:42] nope [17:42] make sure its going to create the top level firefox folder and not just spit out all the dir contents [17:44] brb [17:46] hmmmm, i don't know if its running minefield or ff3 .... it opened ff with all my same addons and configurations [17:53] is there a way to only hace the xfce panel on my first desktop workspaace? [17:54] princedugan: i don't think so... [17:54] /join #xfce [17:54] oops [17:54] :P [17:54] /join #xfce [17:55] why's it doing that? [17:55] idk.... what client? [17:55] pidgin [17:56] princedugan, are you adding a space in the beginning of the line? [17:56] no, no spaces b4 or after [18:07] mikubuntu: the help -> about will tell you. also in the ff folder you should see a application.ini file. that specifies the version name [18:12] anyone know how to set a static ip by chance? [18:12] or a url how to do it? [18:12] every ?ubuntu dist has a different way of doing it [18:13] the applet in the tray won't set it at boot. [18:13] I'd like to edit the /etc files directly and set it up that way [18:33] the-erm: check out man interfaces [18:36] thanks dcolish [18:36] it was /etc/network/interfaces [18:37] I'm checking to see if the configuration sticks during reboot now [18:45] here's something odd ... if I ctrl+alt+F1 then log in ~/.bashrc isn't executed [18:46] is your shell actually bash? [18:46] check it [18:47] echo $SHELL has /bin/bash [18:47] the-erm, first, check that you HAVE ~/.bashrc [18:48] of course I do :) [18:48] . ./.bashrc will run it [18:48] and to verify that you do in fact use bash, check your /etc/passwd file [18:48] there's a point. [18:49] the last section tell you what default shell you are set to use [18:49] Hello, all. [18:49] oddly enough /bin/bash [18:49] the-erm: xubuntu 8:10? [18:50] 8.10* [18:50] yes 8.10 [18:50] Printing help, anyone? My Samsung ML-1210 has always worked perfectly 'til I installed the 25 updates this morning. :-\ [18:50] I can live with it, just kinda odd [18:50] k, i'm going to test that, one sec [18:50] fonzarelli, i like the first one....looks like scripture =] [18:51] likemindead, did you reboot after the updates (since there was a kernel update)? [18:51] I did. [18:51] the-erm: are you setting anything special in the rc file? [18:51] the-erm: confirmed it works for me. perhaps the lines in your bashrc that you're expecting to work are malformed? [18:51] Anytime I try to print I now get "Too many failed attempts." [18:51] the-erm, default .bashrc? [18:52] fonzarelli: it is possible, there is a lot of stuff in there [18:52] I'll check out /etc/bashrc if that's what you're saying. [18:52] likemindead, are you trying to print to a network printer? or a local printer? [18:52] I even turned off and disconnected the printer, deleted it, and reinstalled it. [18:52] It is local. [18:52] the-erm: i mean in your ~/.bashrc [18:52] if you pastebin it we can take a look [18:52] likemindead, clear your printer cache [18:52] ? [18:52] I'll pastebin it. [18:53] fonzarelli: the-erm: just source your file in bash, it will print the errors [18:53] . ./.bashrc [18:53] Okay. How do I do that? Wouldn't it clear when I rebooted? [18:53] likemindead, no it would not [18:53] Ah. [18:53] Clear printer cache, FTW? How? [18:55] hrm....where the heck is that..... [18:56] :-) [18:56] http://pastebin.ca/1269648 # ugly but here it is [18:57] the-erm: does this command produce any errors: source ~/.bashrc [18:57] nope [18:57] but it appears to run it [18:58] I should probably get the default .bashrc and add what I need to it. [18:59] However it still doesn't explain why it's not being ran when I log in on a tty ctrl+alt+f1 [18:59] It's not a big deal. Just thought it was kinda odd. [19:00] I just checked the permissions, and it doesn't have the execute bit set. Is your's set? [19:01] nope [19:01] I should probably work on the backup script at this time, so skip it. [19:02] I had to re-install from scratch when I upgraded to 8.10 good thing I back up. [19:02] yeah, you might find some errors in messages [19:03] the-erm: what do you use to back up? [19:05] a custom script that uses rsync and hardlinking [19:05] backs up the database, sets permissions and a whole bunch of other things [19:07] I wonder if I added something to /etc/bash.bashrc to execute . ~/.bashrc if that'd fix the problem [19:10] the-erm: what db do you use? [19:10] Well, I don't know why, but I can print via OpenOffice 3.0 but not .pdf via Document Viewer. [19:10] yup adding if [ -e $HOME/.bashrc]; then\n . $HOME/.bashrc\n fi [19:10] Oh well. Thanks anyways. [19:11] likemindead, did you try to print a pdf from OOo? [19:13] the-erm: it could be an issue with running the tty as a login shell as opposed to an interactive shell, look at man bash [19:14] No. I printed it in .odt in OOo. [19:18] likemindead, try to print a .pdf in OOo [19:18] im sure you will find that it doesnt print from there either [19:19] (OOo can open pdf....right?) [19:19] no... [19:21] likemindead, do you have a2ps installed? [19:25] I don't think OOo can open .pdf files. [19:25] Yes, "a2ps is already the newest version." [19:26] likemindead, what error do you get? [19:27] "Too many failed attempts." [19:31] likemindead, can you print to file? and is this evince? [19:34] hrm.... [19:34] * vidd just printed a PDF without issue [19:35] It is "Document Viewer 2.24.1" [19:35] OOo is still printing just fine for me, though. [19:36] Weird. :-\ [19:36] hrm...im using Evince Document Viewer 2.22.2 [19:39] ic.... [19:39] evince is version 2.24.1, evince-gtk is version 2.22.2 [19:46] Oh well. As long as OOo is letting me print. I'm sure they'll work the bugs out of evince in a few days. [19:46] Gotta run. Thanks again. :D [19:54] shame he ran away.... [19:55] "they" cant get the bugs worked out unless someone reports them [19:59] * vidd has not been able to duplicate his issue, so cannot file a bug =\ [20:00] *this* [23:27] hey everyone. i can't set the proper resolution on a computer i just set up with xubuntu. i'm trying to set 1280x1024 but it won't let me go past 1280x800. any ideas? [23:36] Hmmm czy jest to LCD panel? [23:36] is it LCD panel? [23:37] and what is your chipset? you may need 915chipser patch installed or generate own modelines using GTF [23:41] retour: my chipset is G965 [23:49] You guys know anything about running Xubuntu on a PowerMac 9500?