/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/11/29/#kubuntu-devel.txt

jussi01does anyone know which ppa has the right click actions for kde4 in it? apachelogger gave it to me a while back, but now I cant remember which it was...03:11
jussi01ie. the untar here, untar to folder etc...03:12
jussi01or are those packages now in intrepid03:12
jussi01?03:12
* jussi01 sighs and remembers most of Kubuntu devel is in Europe...03:30
claydohjussi01: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/samrog131/ubuntu intrepid main03:36
jussi01claydoh: thanks a million :D03:37
claydoh:)03:38
ScottK-laptopAnyone who perhaps feels like looking into why the python-qt4 in Debian Experimental FTBFS on mv: cannot stat `debian/python-qt4-dbg/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/PyQt4/phonon.so': No such file or directory, please be my guest.03:54
ScottK-laptopThe package builds on Debian.03:54
ScottK-laptopIt even builds on Debian when built against our phonon package.03:55
ScottK-laptopThe current difference between our python-central and the one in Debian is pretty trivial.03:55
ScottK-laptopSo it's not python-qt4, it's not phonon, it's not python-central.03:55
* ScottK-laptop needs to get to sleep, so I'd appreciate it if someone else could figure out what I'm missing.03:56
ScottK-laptopGood night all.03:56
manchickenI don't remember, does Konversation have a spellchecker built in?04:39
jussi01we dont have python2.4 in ubuntu anymore, do we?04:40
jussi01manchicken: I *think* so04:41
manchickenjussi01: As soon as we remove py2.4 we'll find like 15K things using it.04:41
NCommanderapachelogger, ping04:43
jussi01NCommander: he is likely still asleep04:43
jussi01manchicken: lol, ok... I thought it was removed, but then, Im high on morphine, so I probably think a lot of things...04:44
manchickenHah!04:45
jussi01manchicken: legal, prescribed morphine of course :D04:45
manchickenOf course.04:46
nixternalhttp://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=kde-style-skulpture07:44
nixternal*cough*07:44
* Hobbsee watches nixternal cough up a furball.07:46
nixternaleww07:46
Hobbseeyes, ewww!07:53
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apacheloggerbug #30320415:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 303204 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Skulpture style for KDE 4" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30320415:00
apacheloggernixternal: did you try compiling it against KDE trunk?15:13
apacheloggerbug #29613516:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 296135 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] plasmoid-adjustable-clock" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29613516:14
nixternalapachelogger: it works with trunk...I am using it with trunk16:15
apacheloggernixternal: yeah, already tested, I only found some minor flaws16:16
nixternalapachelogger: why is kde4-style still preferred?16:30
nixternalsince we don't have kde3 anymore16:30
apacheloggerbecause we still have kde-style- hanging around, which should be removed anyway, and all the others for KDE 4 are still kde4-style16:30
apacheloggeralso we should discuss this with debian-kde16:31
apacheloggermaybe they want to use kde4-style *shrug*16:31
nixternalthey didn't say anything about it..I will check though16:31
apacheloggeraye16:32
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: pling16:32
apacheloggernixternal: go with kde-style then16:32
nixternalapachelogger: kde-style-skulpture is what deb-kde recs16:32
nixternalhehe16:32
apacheloggernixternal: but please drop a mail to the list about kicking the non kde4 packages out of the archives16:33
nixternalI will do that16:33
apacheloggerperfect16:33
apacheloggerScottK: pling16:33
apacheloggerno one got time for poor ol'apachelogger :(16:34
ScottK-laptopapachelogger: Plong16:37
apacheloggerScottK: did you do a list-missing on your python-qt4 merge?16:37
ScottK-laptopapachelogger: No.  It wasn't a merge is was just trying to build the Debian package straight (it should be a sync as they've incorporated all are changes).16:38
ScottK-laptopare/our16:38
apacheloggerScottK: nevermind, somehow there is a bug in the list-missing stuff16:38
* apachelogger prepares python-qt 4.4.4 for upload16:39
ScottK-laptopapachelogger: Did you get it to build?16:39
* ScottK-laptop is curious what you had to do.16:39
apacheloggerScottK-laptop: we need to update to 4.4.4 for kde4bindings to build16:40
* apachelogger thinks there is a word order issue16:40
ScottK-laptopapachelogger: OK.  Did you see the note I left yesterday about it failing for me?16:41
apacheloggerno16:41
apacheloggerScottK-laptop: builds just fine here16:42
apacheloggerScottK-laptop: got a buildlog?16:43
ScottK-laptopapachelogger: Not the whole thing.16:43
nixternalapachelogger: updated the pkg on revu...thanks for catching that copyright thing..I have notified upstream on that as well16:43
ScottK-laptopmv: cannot stat `debian/python-qt4-dbg/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/PyQt4/phonon.so': No such file or directory was the error16:43
apacheloggerhm16:45
apacheloggerScottK-laptop: that file is not mentioned anywhere in my buildlog16:46
apacheloggerfunnies16:48
apacheloggerScottK: what phonon version did you compile against?16:48
apacheloggerah16:50
apacheloggerScottK-laptop: JontheEchidna only updated the package but didn't merge/sync with debian16:51
ScottK-laptopapachelogger: IIRC I built it both against the Debian package and our package, but maybe I didn't.16:52
ScottK-laptopphonon that it.16:52
ScottK-laptopit/is16:52
ScottK-laptopI thought he did merge.16:52
apacheloggerno16:52
ScottK-laptopWell that'd be a problem then.16:52
apacheloggerthe not being a merge or that you did try with a merge?16:53
ScottK-laptopNot being a merge.16:53
apacheloggerScottK-laptop: how so?16:53
ScottK-laptopThere's a new binary in python-qt4 from Debian that needs the updated Phonon stuff from Debian.16:53
apacheloggerScottK-laptop: we can merge later16:54
apacheloggerfor no python-qt4 just prevents any progress on KDE 4.1.8016:54
ScottK-laptopapachelogger: The build-dep on phonon in pyhton-qt4 is on the latest Debian phonon revision.16:54
apacheloggerdidn't we merge that already?16:55
* apachelogger is getting confused16:55
ScottK-laptopapachelogger: Then you'll need to drop the new phonon binary from python-qt4.16:55
ScottK-laptopI thought you just told me he didn't merge phonon.16:55
apacheloggerhe didn't merge python-qt416:55
ScottK-laptopAh.16:55
apacheloggerphonon was merged along the other KDE stuff16:56
ScottK-laptopIf you can get the Debian python-qt4 stuff to build, then I'd say just ask for a sync.16:56
ScottK-laptopThere aren't any outstanding Ubuntu changes.16:56
apacheloggeroh dear16:56
apacheloggeragain that python compile bloat16:56
apachelogger-.-16:56
* ScottK-laptop is under the weather today, so probably not processing well.16:56
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apacheloggerScottK-laptop: debian depends python (>= 2.5)... is that good?16:59
* apachelogger is getting lost in windows17:00
ScottK-laptopUrgh.17:00
astrommeIs there a reason why I can't join #kde-cafe in Quassel? It doesn'17:01
astromme*doesn't show up in the channel list either17:01
ScottK-laptopapachelogger: Are you looking at  python-elementtree | python (>= 2.5) ?17:02
apacheloggeryus17:02
apacheloggerastromme: maybe you have been banned? :P17:02
ScottK-laptopThat's fine as python-elementtree is in python2.517:02
astrommeapachelogger: O.O would I have recieved some sort of notification for that? Also, would that prevent it from showing up in the channel list?17:03
apacheloggerI dunno17:03
astrommeapachelogger: Aha! "405 #kde-cafe You can't join that many channels17:04
apacheloggersensible17:04
apacheloggerScottK-laptop: I am testbuilding and get someone to sync17:06
ScottK-laptopapachelogger: Great.  Good luck.  Maybe something else was out of sync that's been fixed now.17:06
apacheloggernixternal: you should ask an archive admin whether a copy of GPL2 is necessary, before uploading17:07
apacheloggernixternal: ACKing17:07
ScottK-laptopapachelogger and nixternal: I full copy of $LICENSE is required.  If it's clear what the author intended the license to be, you can repack the tarball to add it.17:12
apacheloggerScottK-laptop: the source is GPL3+, except for one file which is GPL2+ (and got a different copyright holder for that matter)17:19
ScottK-laptopapachelogger: If it's 2+ you can distribute it all as GPL3 then and you only need that, but you ought to say that in debian/copyright.17:24
* ScottK-laptop heads out for a bit. See you all later.17:26
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: plong\18:04
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: please try toget python-qt4 from debian experimental to compile with our phonon ... apparently we need to apply some change to phonon so pyqt can compile the phonon stuff18:05
apacheloggersuppose the same phonon change is in experimental18:05
apacheloggerI will finish reviewing against your 4.4.4 meanwhile, hoping that you can get our phonon and debian's python-qt4 to compile ;-)18:06
JontheEchidnaA merge might be wise, seeing as they know their 01_configure better than I do :P18:19
JontheEchidna*their 01_configure.dpatch18:19
* JontheEchidna downloads18:20
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: if we can get our phonon package ot support building of python-phonon we are actually able to sync python-qt419:59
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: we have a higher version than debian so we can't sync20:06
* JontheEchidna is hoping the higher version isn't causing the problems20:06
apacheloggerok20:07
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: we _merge_ something from debian's phonon into our own20:07
apacheloggerinr oder to make _debians_ python-qt4 compile with _our_ _merged_ phonon20:07
JontheEchidnaoh, right. sync python not phonon20:07
apacheloggerso that we can sync _debians_ python-qt4 into _our_ archives and have phonton bindings for python ;-)20:07
apacheloggerphonton20:07
JontheEchidnalol20:08
apacheloggerjeez, I should be watching less star trek20:08
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: we have already merged with the latest debian version of phonon20:09
JontheEchidnaunless....20:09
JontheEchidnaremaining changes:20:09
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: well, start investigating either there is something in our phonon packaging that differs from debian while it should not, or python-qt4 is just not compatible with phonon trunk20:09
JontheEchidna- Do not use phonon-libraryPaths.patch, applied upstream20:09
JontheEchidnait might have been applied to the 4.2 branch, but not the 4.3 branch20:10
apacheloggergood thinking20:10
JontheEchidnaespecially since the change was made after tagging20:10
* JontheEchidna tests new phonon20:24
JontheEchidna*testbuilds20:24
yuriywow system-config-printer certainly still needs some work20:30
JontheEchidnafrack20:31
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: the patch doesn't apply20:31
JontheEchidna:(20:31
JontheEchidnaand looking at it the patch is only supposed to make phonon find its backends20:32
JontheEchidnawe are boned20:32
JontheEchidnadiff -Nru phonon-4.2.0/debian/libphonon-dev.links phonon-4.2.80+svn887720a/debian/libphonon-dev.links20:34
JontheEchidna--- phonon-4.2.0/debian/libphonon-dev.links2008-11-29 15:21:15.000000000 -050020:34
JontheEchidna+++ phonon-4.2.80+svn887720a/debian/libphonon-dev.links1969-12-31 19:00:00.000000000 -050020:34
JontheEchidna@@ -1,2 +0,0 @@20:34
JontheEchidna-usr/include/phonon usr/include/qt4/phonon20:34
JontheEchidna-usr/include/phonon/phonon usr/include/phonon/Phonon20:34
JontheEchidnawhy did that file disappear?20:35
* JontheEchidna can't find any reason why it was removed or not added during a merge in teh changelogz20:37
JontheEchidnaback it goes20:37
JontheEchidnaImproper merge on my part, tsk20:42
JontheEchidnaon the plus side this means that apps wanting Qt phonon should compile now :D20:42
JontheEchidnaapachelogger, ScottK, ScottK-laptop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/78137/20:46
apacheloggerbah20:47
apacheloggerI am watching borg cubes explode right now!20:47
apacheloggerlolz20:47
JontheEchidnalol20:47
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: that is all that was missing?20:47
apacheloggerhm, bug in my language engine20:48
JontheEchidnayes, I checked the diff between us and debian and that was the only change not caused by our newer upstream version or lack of cdbs20:48
apacheloggerwell, letz see how that changes things20:48
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: do you have debs at hand?20:48
JontheEchidnanein, I have not testbuilt it20:49
apacheloggeroh my god! what unresponsible behaviour that is!20:50
* apachelogger aborts the current approach of getting bindings in line and pbuilds phonon20:50
JontheEchidnaif phonon fails due to my changes I will eat my shorts :P20:51
apacheloggerfunnies20:51
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: this dood shares your love of unstable mail clients: http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/11/29/cross-platform-mail-reading/21:23
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: not only that, we also share names and the interest for accessibility ;-)21:25
apacheloggeroh21:29
apacheloggermy21:29
apacheloggerborg21:29
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: it worked \o/21:29
* apachelogger dances through the channel21:30
ryanakcaShould /usr/share/kde4/apps/pykde4/pykdeuic4.py be executable?22:32
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: \o/22:35
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nixternalanyone try out the daily cd images for kubuntu?23:49
ScottK2apachelogger: Did you upload JontheEchidna's phonon fix?23:52
ScottK2Nevermind.  I see it.23:54

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