[00:01]  * Twylight wiffles
[00:02] <wesley_> I going link it as document place
[00:05] <dr_willis> a shortcut is a 'gimmic' in windows.. in Linux a 'link' is an actual feature of the filesystem
[00:05] <Niteye> i installed 8.10 with KDE4
[00:05] <dr_willis> i have had programs under windows get confused and try to load some 'yourfile.lnk' as a text file.  :)
[00:05] <Niteye> suspend and logout dont work, when i suspend it locks up while booting again, when i do logout i just get a black screen
[00:05] <Niteye> (in both cases i can still log in with ssh)
[00:05] <dr_willis> wesley_,   you can link one directory to another location, and its as if its there.. :)  plain and simple..  make a directory and toy with ln -s to see how ti works.
[00:10] <dek> is there an "Open Konsole here" option in new Dolphin?
[00:10] <dek> the konsole that gets opened with F4 doesnt start in the current directory
[00:11] <JontheEchidna> dek: works as expected for me
[00:12] <Niteye> anyone knows why i just get a black screen when i logout, and i cant resume a suspended session
[00:12] <Niteye> using KDE4
[00:13] <Niteye> does KDE4 work decently for ANYONE here?
[00:13] <wesley_> After long using kde4, i think that its not fully stable and that kde3 is more stable
[00:13] <dek> JontheEchidna: to me it is always in home :( I have just noticed it makes a cd /dir command and gives error but it disappears instantaneously. Maybe adding "." to path should do the trick =)
[00:14] <wesley_> I think i going stick with 8.04 and use neon for kde4 testing
[00:14] <gpops> How can I burn a .bin to a cd?
[00:14] <wesley_> I hope kde4.2 going bring us a more stable kde4
[00:14] <Niteye> why did they put KDE4 in the new kubuntu if it doesnt even work properly yet, it was awful in the 8.04 KDE4 edition, it has improved in 8.10 but its still too terrible to be deemed stable enough to be kubuntu's main WM
[00:15] <gpops> K3b doesn't seem to work.
[00:17] <bayen> so perhaps this is quite Google-able, but my cursor seems to have vanished and so I can't really open my web browser, and Konversation was open, so I tabbed over here and thoght I'd check if any of you knew about this bug
[00:17] <bayen> seems to happen whenever I try to access System Settings, and a reboot fixes it
[00:19] <bayen> ah well, reboot time :(
[00:22] <TheTetsu> hello
[00:22] <dr_willis> !cue
[00:22] <dr_willis> !bin
[00:23] <dr_willis> gpops,   Theres some tool to convert bin/cue to iso. But last i looked k3b could handle them.. but it may be needign that tool
[00:23] <dr_willis> the command was bchunk , or somthing like that
[00:24] <vblanton> hello all, with the last update kdm no longer starts up automatically. can anyone help?
[00:24] <vblanton> (updates drom 8.04 to 8.10)
[00:25] <david_> Hi Guys, Does anyone know how to get the firewire working on Kubuntu 8.10?
[00:25] <TheTetsu> want to buy a DVD recorder, the pioneer damage problems?
[00:25] <vblanton> david_, should *just work*
[00:25] <vblanton> TheTetsu, what?
[00:26] <david_> I have it plugged into my camcorder and nothing happens
[00:26] <vblanton> TheTetsu, any dvd recorder will/should work
[00:26] <vblanton> david_, hmm, check if the camcorder is supported
[00:26] <david_> how?
[00:27] <vblanton> david_, good question ... do you have any software you use your camcorder with?
[00:27] <TheTetsu> ok, tnx
[00:27] <david_> not really I was going to use Kino
[00:27] <vblanton> david_, for instance, digikam with photo camera's ...
[00:27] <vblanton> well, try to use kino and see what happens
[00:28] <david_> It is a canon z300
[00:28] <vblanton> i actually don't know much about camcorders and kde/linux .. but let me take a look here..
[00:28] <dr_willis> !info kino
[00:28] <dr_willis> I thought kino could access/get the data that way
[00:29] <dr_willis> my CamCorder - shows up as a USB hard drive. :)
[00:30] <vblanton> david_, http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CamcOrder
[00:30] <vblanton> dr_willis, there are different types on camcorders .. kino does work that way for some f them
[00:31] <vblanton> david_, that link should help you out
[00:31] <vblanton> anyone know how to get kdm to start automaticaly at start up??
[00:31] <vblanton> it stopped doing that after version upgrade
[00:31] <david_> It says in Kino that raw1394 is not available
[00:32] <david_> or that the raw1394 module must be loaded
[00:32] <dr_willis> load the module? :)
[00:32] <dr_willis> sudo modprobe whatever
[00:33] <david_> what do you mean dr?
[00:33] <vblanton> !raw1394
[00:33] <vblanton> "sudo modprobe raw1394"
[00:33] <vblanton> strange, but it should already be loaded i think...
[00:34] <vblanton> after modprobing it, try kino out again
[00:34] <vblanton> gotta go, good luck!
[00:34] <dr_willis> i was thinking some of the 1394 modules re blacklisted
[00:36] <david_> it also says I must have read and write access to /dev/raw1394
[00:38] <david_> I am not that familar with this to figure it out
[00:40] <dr_willis> could chmode it.. or chown it..
[00:41] <dr_willis> or (ick) run the kino app as root. :( --- bad idea --- but would be a good test I guess
[00:41] <david_> it's one of them roadblocks I guess
[00:42] <dr_willis> 'security' :)
[00:43] <david_> thanks for trying
[00:43] <david_> bye
[00:43] <dr_willis> if root works.. then ya could go the chmode route..
[00:44] <mister-tea> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=987418 same problem as above?
[00:45] <sami_555> hi
[00:46] <sami_555> hey
[00:46] <jussi01> Heya sami_555
[00:46] <sami_555> :) how r u
[00:47] <jussi01> sami_555: Im fine, though this is not a place just for chatting, have youa support question for us?
[00:47] <sami_555> :)
[00:47] <jussi01> sami_555: if you just want to chat, please enter #kubuntu-offtopic
[00:48] <sami_555> just for using sql on ubuntu
[00:48] <sami_555> how to execute sql configure please
[00:50] <jussi01> and he left...
[00:57] <noisy1> Hello, all! How do I tell kubuntu 7.04 to start kdm every time I login? I tried KDE4 (added via adept) and did not like it, so I downgraded, but kdm won't start on its own.
[00:58] <unimatrix> noisy1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[00:59] <noisy1> unimatrix: I'll give that a try. thx!
[00:59] <mister-tea> 8.04 is stable
[00:59] <dig> hi, do I need to download from JDK from sun.com or I can install it via adept?
[00:59] <unimatrix> dig: via adept
[01:00] <dig> type JDK on adept?
[01:01] <mister-tea> !java
[01:01] <unimatrix> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[01:03] <noisy1> unimatrix: you totally rock!!! that fixed the kdm issue! I´ve been searching for this with no luck. THANKS!!
[01:04] <noisy1> another q: i'm trying to work with my kubuntu box from a mac, but i have not been able to get vnc working. I can ssh into the box. is there a way to start the k-menu via an ssh session?
[01:04] <unimatrix> you can try synergy
[01:05] <unimatrix> it's a server-client utility that allows you to control many computers through one with a single keyboard & mouse
[01:05] <unimatrix> it's crossplatform too so it works on macs
[01:06] <unimatrix> btw i hope you aren't installing VNC or anything, because it's all already done by default, you just need to enable it
[01:08] <noisy1> yeah. not installing it on either kubuntu or mac. I enable desktop sharing on kubuntu and start a vnc:// session in mac, but it never connects. I tried a couple of vnc clients too.
[01:08] <unimatrix> any firewalls involved maybe?
[01:08] <noisy1> they connect, but I do not see any of the changes on screen on the kubuntu box. weird.
[01:09] <noisy1> no firewalls. at this point, both are sitting next to each other until I figure this out.
[01:09] <dr_willis> try a stand alone vncserver?  see if one of those works?
[01:09] <noisy1> I installed vnc4server via adept. no luck.
[01:10] <unimatrix> bad idea
[01:10] <noisy1> ?
[01:10] <unimatrix> in Kubuntu, you have a utility called Krfb
[01:10] <unimatrix> just configure everything via that, no need to install anything
[01:10] <dr_willis> You can run vnc4server  and have no problems.. in fact you may want it in some cases
[01:11] <dr_willis> vnc4server needs a little tweaking to get working 100% however by default
[01:11] <dig> what is the full path of J2SE installation?
[01:12] <noisy1> i did. that was my first option (using krfb (aka desktop sharing). no luck. then I tried vnc4server. no luck (too many config changes and I many have missed a step or two). I then tried kde4's krfb with a little more luck, but no screen refreshes.
[01:12] <noisy1> that's why I downgraded to kde3
[01:13] <unimatrix> oh wait
[01:13] <unimatrix> u using KDE4?
[01:13] <unimatrix> oh you were
[01:13] <unimatrix> yeah, krfb is broken in kubuntu-kde4
[01:13] <noisy1> not at this point. i upgraded, tested, downgraded
[01:14] <dr_willis> noisy1,  to get vnc4server going.. I install it.. run vncpasswd to give user a vnc password.. run vncserver, then  kill it with  vncserver -kill :1, theni have to fix the .vnc/xstartup it made.. because the silly thing defaults to twm. :()
[01:14] <noisy1> that's weird. krfb in kde4 worked better than kde3's which does nothing.
[01:16] <unimatrix> interesting, i had the reverse situation
[01:17] <unimatrix> you might wanna purge the kde settings
[01:17] <unimatrix> i bet KDE4 screwed something up
[01:17] <unimatrix> kde3 and kde4 don't mix well
[01:20] <noisy1> how do I purge the kde settings? i went through adept and removed any kde4 stuff that I found on my system, but that's about it.
[01:21] <unimatrix> well you could try removing ~/.kde   ~/.kde3    ~./kde4
[01:22] <unimatrix> well backup them first
[01:23] <noisy1> i'll give synergy a try first. kde3 seems to be behaving well. i was having problems with krfb even before i tried kde4.
[01:23] <dig> thx, I figure it out.
[01:30] <dr_willis> synergy is handy.. theres a front end to it in the repos also i recall
[01:31] <dr_willis> It canbe a bit of an annoyance to get going
[01:55] <login_> Alguém do Brasil?
[01:55] <Dillizar> is there a program so i can use my computer with voice commands :)
[01:56] <mister-tea> !br
[01:56] <login_> #ubuntu-br
[01:57] <Dillizar> login_, /join #ubuntu-br
[02:10] <jonasbet> hi
[02:10] <jonasbet> ive download a torrent
[02:10] <Dillizar> hi
[02:10] <Dillizar> ok
[02:10] <jonasbet> and it is not in its folder?
[02:10] <Dillizar> lol
[02:10] <jonasbet> where could it be?
[02:10] <Dillizar> what are ya using
[02:10] <jonasbet> transmission
[02:11] <Dillizar> ok
[02:11] <mervin___> hi, can anybody tell me in witch folder install openarena mods?
[02:11] <jonasbet> i check the folder destination
[02:11] <jonasbet> for the torrent
[02:11] <Dillizar> open transmission
[02:11] <jonasbet> and it is not there
[02:11] <jonasbet> its open
[02:11] <Dillizar> preferences
[02:12] <Dillizar> destination folder
[02:12] <Dillizar> ok
[02:12] <jonasbet> i know it
[02:12] <jonasbet> but there is not the file
[02:12] <Dillizar> then search it
[02:12] <Dillizar> :D
[02:12] <jonasbet> of the film
[02:12] <Dillizar> or the next time
[02:12] <jonasbet> i get the path
[02:12] <Dillizar> select desktop
[02:12] <jonasbet> but it is not there
[02:12] <Dillizar> wait
[02:13] <jonasbet> what could be wrong here
[02:13] <Dillizar> you have found the folder with the name of the movie
[02:13] <Dillizar> well for starters your torrent
[02:13] <Dillizar> :)
[02:13] <mervin___>  hi, can anybody tell me in witch folder install openarena mods?
[02:13] <jonasbet> i get into the folder
[02:14] <Dillizar> mervin___, try searching it :)
[02:14] <Dillizar> and jonasbet
[02:14] <jonasbet> where r all the files downloaded from transmission
[02:14] <Dillizar> and
[02:14] <jonasbet> but the film is not there
[02:14] <mervin___> I do
[02:14] <jonasbet> how can i search
[02:14] <jonasbet> on ubuntu
[02:14] <mervin___> but i can't find anything
[02:14] <Dillizar> ok
[02:14] <Dillizar> go to
[02:14] <Dillizar> places
[02:14] <colin_> jonasbet: locate is the best search tool
[02:14] <jonasbet> yes
[02:15] <Dillizar> computer
[02:15] <jonasbet> where can get locate?
[02:15] <colin_> locate <filename> on the command line
[02:15] <Dillizar> then go to file system
[02:15] <jonasbet> ohh
[02:15] <Dillizar> and there
[02:15] <Dillizar> you can see a search icon
[02:15] <Dillizar> :D
[02:15] <Dillizar> yeahhhhh
[02:15] <Dillizar> :D
[02:15] <colin_> or you could do it Dillizar's way
[02:15] <colin_> :p
[02:16] <Dillizar> lol
[02:16] <Dillizar> well thank you nice sir
[02:16] <colin_> :D
[02:16] <colin_> there are many ways to skin this cat
[02:16] <Dillizar> :P
[02:16] <Dillizar> btw jonasbet next time go to #ubuntu :P
[02:16]  * mr---t- oooew imagines a skinned cat
[02:17] <Dillizar> mr---t-, dont imagine any more lemme show you
[02:17] <Dillizar> :D
[02:17]  * Dillizar is skinning a cat 
[02:17]  * colin_ looks away
[02:17] <mr---t->  :-O
[02:17] <Dillizar> lol
[02:17] <Dillizar> :D
[02:17] <colin_> \o/
[02:17] <Dillizar> do you like what you see
[02:17] <Dillizar> :D
[02:17] <maxbaldwin> nou?
[02:18] <mr---t-> no thus the ooew
[02:18] <colin_> ZOMG.... put it back together!!!!!
[02:19]  * Dillizar is braking a azerty keyboard 
[02:19] <jonasbet> what the diference beteenw ubuntu and kubuntu?
[02:19] <Dillizar> well
[02:19] <colin_> KDE and gnome
[02:19] <Dillizar> ubuntu is gnome
[02:19] <Dillizar> and kubuntu is kde
[02:19] <Dillizar> thats why it has K :P
[02:19] <Dillizar> just like Xubuntu
[02:19] <Dillizar> :P
[02:19] <jonasbet> ohh i see
[02:19] <Dillizar> but not for edubuntu :P
[02:19] <jonasbet> but all of these is just apparence
[02:19] <mr---t-> but can't you use gnome with kubuntu?
[02:20] <colin_> yes
[02:20] <Dillizar> there isn't EDU environment
[02:20] <Dillizar> :P
[02:20] <colin_> but there are different tools available with KDE than with gnome
[02:20]  * mr---t- prefers kde
[02:20] <jonasbet> can i change the enviroment?
[02:20] <jonasbet> how can i get KDE?
[02:20] <colin_> while you can run gnome tools in KDE and vice-versa, its sort of inefficient
[02:20] <mr---t-> edu is huge
[02:21] <colin_> you can download KDE jonasbet
[02:21] <Dillizar> jonasbet, you dont want to do that its to complicate :P
[02:21] <Dillizar> just install kubuntu :P
[02:21] <colin_> but changing a DE is complicated for a beginner
[02:21] <mr---t-> !kde
[02:21]  * mr---t- loves fsctoids
[02:22] <Dillizar> colin_, and after what ubottu said you will restart and change the session
[02:22] <jonasbet> OH I DONT WANT TO
[02:22] <jonasbet> ;op
[02:22] <colin_> hmm
[02:22] <jonasbet> thanks my friend
[02:22] <Dillizar> dorien
[02:23] <jonasbet> i got the file
[02:23] <jonasbet> do u know what?
[02:23] <jonasbet> it is in the folder
[02:23] <jonasbet> but i cant see it
[02:23] <colin_> so Dillizar wins again
[02:23] <jonasbet> the finder get it
[02:23] <Dillizar> :P
[02:23]  * colin_ sighs
[02:23] <jonasbet> good night
[02:23] <Dillizar> wow
[02:23] <jonasbet> everyone
[02:23] <Dillizar> lol
[02:23] <Dillizar> night
[02:23] <mr---t-> pay up :-)
[02:23] <jonasbet> jaja
[02:24] <colin_> anyways, it's been swell
[02:24] <Dillizar> is there a #kubuntu-newbie
[02:24] <colin_> but the swelling has gone down
[02:24] <mr---t-> this is it
[02:24] <colin_> talk to you guys alter
[02:24] <Dillizar> lol mr---t-
[02:25] <Is> new to Ubuntu question... the installer on the livecd doesn't show me any partition info when I get to "Step 4 - Prepare partitions..." obviously it's not detecting my SATA HD but I can access it via terminal just fine (it's NTFS formatted right now but that shouldn't be an issue at all)... what do i do?
[02:25]  * Dillizar stopped to use KDE since 6.04 
[02:25] <Dillizar> Is,
[02:25] <Dillizar> ok
[02:25] <Dillizar> breath
[02:25] <Dillizar> :D
[02:25] <Dillizar> do you have XP installed
[02:26] <Is> Dillizar: lol i'm not worried
[02:26] <Is> nah, I'm blowing away a Vista installaiton on that drive
[02:26] <Dillizar> ok
[02:26] <Is> (it's broken)
[02:26] <Dillizar> you want to format the whole hdd
[02:26] <Is> yeah
[02:26] <Dillizar> then select the whole hdd
[02:26] <Dillizar> :D
[02:26] <Is> but *nothing* shows up in the partition editor in the installer
[02:26]  * mr---t- thinks vista comes broken
[02:26] <Is> it's blank
[02:26] <Dillizar> gimme a screen shot and i will tell you
[02:27] <Dillizar> it does mr---t-
[02:27] <Dillizar> also i am not sure
[02:27] <Dillizar> BUT
[02:27] <maxbaldwin> Am I the only one here running Gnome-Xchat?
[02:27] <maxbaldwin> on Kubuntu?
[02:27] <Is> maxbaldwin: i'm running x-chat aqua ;)
[02:27] <Dillizar> vista uses another BIOS configuration
[02:27] <Dillizar> nope i am
[02:27] <Dillizar> :D
[02:27] <Dillizar> but on gnome :P
[02:28] <maxbaldwin> Is: but Gnome on KDE?
[02:28] <Is> wait, do I need to change the way my BIOS handles SATA in order for the kernel to see it?
[02:28] <Is> maxbaldwin: Aqua... i'm on my MacBook in OS X
[02:28] <maxbaldwin> cool
[02:28] <Dillizar> yeah maybe i dont know vista but when my friend tried to put XP he had to change some bios things
[02:28]  * mr---t- puts his fingers in a cross and grabs darlic
[02:29]  * mr---t- garlic
[02:29] <Is> Dillizar: well, i don't see that being the case here since I just built this system a month ago and so there shouldn't be any differences in the BIOS... i'll check it over in a minute, though
[02:29] <Dillizar> ok do that
[02:29] <Dillizar> or send me a screen shot :P
[02:30] <Is> i can do that... one sec. need to pull up an irc client on that machine
[02:30] <Dillizar> you have one its Xchat :P
[02:30] <Dillizar> if you are installing ubuntu or on kubuntu Konversation
[02:32] <Dillizar> !install
[02:32] <mr---t-> !vista
[02:33] <Dillizar> www.letmegoogleitforyou.com
[02:33] <Dillizar> :D
[02:33] <mr---t-> lol
[02:34] <mr---t-> wow it's areal site I thought it was a joke
[02:34] <Dillizar> www.letmegooglethatforyou.com
[02:34] <Dillizar> sorry
[02:34] <Dillizar> :D
[02:35] <Dillizar> http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=let+me+google+that+for+you+%3AD
[02:35] <mr---t-> he he
[02:36] <Dillizar> :P
[02:37] <lolren> hy
[02:37] <mr---t-> !hi
[02:37] <lolren> does anyone knows why pidgin wont connect to yahoo protocol anynmore?
[02:38] <Dillizar> maybe yahoo changed the protocol
[02:38] <Dillizar> !pidgin | lolren
[02:38] <lolren> y know that...
[02:39] <lolren> but is was working a few days ago
[02:39] <lolren> and i am not the only one with this problem
[02:39] <harolddong> I use kopete
[02:39] <mr---t-> me too
[02:40] <lolren> kopete does the same thing
[02:40] <Dillizar> and more
[02:40] <Dillizar> :D
[02:40] <Dillizar> has webcam
[02:40] <lolren> not that...
[02:40] <mr---t-> and irc
[02:40] <lolren> it wont connect.....
[02:40] <lolren> for a few days
[02:40] <lolren> :(
[02:41] <Dillizar> MAYBE
[02:41] <Dillizar> JUST MAYBE
[02:41] <Dillizar> its problem with your account :P
[02:41] <lolren> ?
[02:41] <lolren> yahoo messenger is working.. and this happend since i made some updates...
[02:41] <lolren> :( to ubuntu
[02:42] <lolren> now i use virtualbox...... with messenger and xp
[02:42] <lolren> :)
[02:42] <Dillizar> lolren, you are using 8.10??
[02:42] <lolren> yep
[02:43] <Dillizar> well
[02:43] <lolren> ?
[02:43] <mr---t-> kubuntu?
[02:43] <lolren> i have both.....
[02:43] <Dillizar> well there is some stupid things with the drivers but thats for skype and stuff
[02:43] <Dillizar> the kernel .27 its not good
[02:43] <Dillizar> :D
[02:43] <lolren> ubuntu and kubuntu + kubuntu  andxp in virtualbox
[02:44] <lolren> hmmm...... ok , got 2 ideas
[02:44] <Dillizar> try koppete?
[02:44] <lolren> first i see in virtualbox if pidgin for windowse is forking
[02:44] <lolren> and if yes.... i install 8.04 in virtualbox:>
[02:45] <Dillizar> hahaha
[02:45] <lolren> i did.... kopete......
[02:45] <Dillizar> why you complicate things LD
[02:45] <Dillizar> :D
[02:45] <lolren> well u use kopete yes?
[02:45] <Dillizar> no amsn :P
[02:45] <lolren> for yahoo chatting or?
[02:45] <lolren> aaa
[02:45] <lolren> :)
[02:45] <lolren> :)))
[02:45] <mr---t-> I use it
[02:45] <lolren> msn....
[02:45] <lolren> in romania msn sucks...
[02:46] <lolren> everybody has yahoo
[02:46] <lolren> mr---t-:  and can u connect to yahoo now?
[02:46] <lolren> from kopete or pidgin
[02:46] <lolren> ?
[02:46] <Is> Dillizar: simple problem... just had to enable SATA in AHCI mode within BIOS instead of IDE mode. Why that isn't set by default on a modern mobo... backward compat., i guess
[02:47] <Dillizar> lol Is so it was the vista that was the problem after all :P
[02:48] <Is> uhm, no
[02:48] <Is> it had nothing to do with Vista
[02:48] <Is> ;P
[02:49] <Dillizar> but the bios was the problem
[02:49] <Is> yeah
[02:50] <Dillizar> so
[02:50] <Dillizar> the bios was set for vista :D
[02:50] <Is> sure, if you say so... </sarcasm>
[02:50] <Dillizar> :P
[02:51] <mr---t-> !helpersnack | Dillizar
[02:51] <Dillizar> :)
[02:51] <Dillizar> thanks
[02:51] <Dillizar> :)
[02:53] <jonasbet> hi
[02:53] <jonasbet> again
[02:53] <lolren> ready i found the problem
[02:53] <lolren> :)
[02:53] <Dillizar> hi
[02:53] <lolren> i found a forum .. change server adress and is connecting
[02:53] <jonasbet> how can i be a root
[02:53] <jonasbet> change user on a console
[02:53] <Dillizar> i told you lolren
[02:54] <lolren> yep
[02:54] <lolren> 10x
[02:54] <lolren> :D
[02:54] <yosmen> hi
[02:54] <carutsu> is there a way to re-scan the computer for new devices?
[02:54] <carutsu> I changed my wireless card and now it is not recognized anymore
[02:55] <Dillizar> carutsu,
[02:55] <carutsu> yes?
[02:56] <Dillizar> go to hardware testing
[02:56] <Dillizar> :)
[02:56] <carutsu> err, may I ask how do I do that?
[02:57] <john> hi
[02:57] <carutsu> Dillizar: ?
[02:57] <Guest23071> HI
[02:57] <carutsu> hi
[02:57] <Dillizar> well
[02:57] <Dillizar> i dont know i am not on kubuntu :)
[02:57] <Dillizar> but
[02:57] <Guest23071> good evering
[02:57] <tuatha13> sup
[02:58] <Guest23071> =D
[02:58] <Guest23071> I love linux
[02:58] <Dillizar> system/administration
[02:58] <Guest23071> and you?
[02:58] <Guest23071> =D
[02:58] <Guest23071> i be happy
[02:59] <carutsu> Dillizar: we are talking about kubuntu aren't we?
[02:59] <Guest23071> #brasil
[02:59] <carutsu> Dillizar: there's no such thing I'm affraid
[03:00] <Dillizar> hmm ok :)
[03:00] <Guest23071> and you?
[03:00] <carutsu> lol
[03:00] <Guest23071> i don speak ingles...
[03:00] <carutsu> Dillizar: ok as in "ok you are screwd" :P ?
[03:00] <Guest23071> + or -
[03:01] <Dillizar> nope just i am thinking of another way
[03:01] <Dillizar> Guest23071,  where are you from
[03:01] <Guest23071> ahwuhaw
[03:01] <Guest23071> [yess^
[03:02] <Dillizar> carutsu, did you restart the pc :P
[03:02] <Guest23071>  are  do yours lives where?
[03:03] <Dillizar> putain
[03:03] <Guest23071> lol
[03:03] <bazhang> !br
[03:04] <Dillizar> you are using a google translator Guest23071
[03:04] <carutsu> Dillizar: yes... well, not exactly: here's what happened: my laptop got damaged, I took out my hdd from it, i installed it in another one, no wireless is recogniced (nearly everything went smooth except for that)
[03:04] <Guest23071> where it is this place?
[03:04] <Guest23071> yesss
[03:04] <Guest23071> i am use tranlater
[03:05] <dr_willis> !kubuntu
[03:05] <mr---t-> lolren:  It took me a while to register but yes I can access yahoo chat
[03:05] <carutsu> Dillizar: "Did you restart the PC" that sounded so Windowish
[03:05] <Dillizar> lol
[03:05] <Dillizar> no after puting the new thing what ever
[03:06] <Dillizar> !brazil
[03:06] <carutsu> yea, I changed the HDD
[03:06] <dr_willis> Windowish = 'you got malware! reformat/reinstall/remove the PRE_installed Malware....'
[03:06] <carutsu> not that much dr_willis
[03:06] <Dillizar> !brazil | Guest12863
[03:06] <carutsu> lol
[03:07] <Guest23071> cool colloquy with people of the exterior. I live in the brazil I call João Victor…
[03:07] <Dillizar> !helpersnack | Dillizar
[03:08] <carutsu> dr_willis: do you have any idea on how to make a re-scan to detect the new hardware? (I changed the HDD from another laptop and in this one the wireless is not recogniced)
[03:08] <dr_willis> Not really. I thought most of that stuff did get rescanned at boot up
[03:09] <dr_willis> Take the wireless card from the other laptop? :)
[03:09] <Dillizar> carutsu, ok i did that few times and the end YOU MUST REINSTALL really i have tried every thing and in the end nothing is like a new fresh clean reinstall
[03:09] <jmichaelx> is there anything that can be done about the weird artifacts and garbage that show up in the kde4 system tray in intrepid?
[03:09] <carutsu> that would exceed my skills in hardware
[03:10] <carutsu> D
[03:10] <carutsu> jmichaelx: no, it's a Qt bug last time i cheked
[03:10] <carutsu> Dillizar: noooooooo
[03:11] <jmichaelx> carutsu: ok, i am not surprised. i just installed fedora 10 on another machine, and it is not having that issue
[03:11] <Dillizar> its easy jys make a new partition for your home and thats it
[03:11] <Dillizar> :D
[03:11] <carutsu> Dillizar: I'm being lazy but I would have to reinstall quite a bunch of Apps plus a huge recompiling of KDE (kdelibs, kdepimlibs, kdevplatform, kdevelop, marble and KOffice, God!)
[03:11] <carutsu> jmichaelx: perhaps they adopted a workaround, plasma upstream is against workarounds
[03:12] <carutsu> mysql, firebird, php and apache too! TT_TT
[03:12] <Dillizar> are you sure you dont have a hardware test :D
[03:13] <jmichaelx> carutsu: ty for the info. personally, i am for sticking with the old school definition of 'stable', as opposed to the apparent new definition
[03:13] <Dillizar> or "hardware drivers
[03:13] <carutsu> no, I cannot see anything, did I mention Im using KDE4.1
[03:13] <carutsu> ?
[03:13] <Dillizar> nope
[03:14] <carutsu> did you mean in KDE3.5? :$
[03:14] <carutsu> jmichaelx: may I ask what's the new definition?
[03:15] <jmichaelx> carutsu: i am not sure what the new definition is, to be honest. i just know they have abandoned the old one. i am thinking that maybe beta is the new stable? or maybe alpha? i'm just not sure.
[03:15] <Dillizar> carutsu, yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh
[03:15] <Dillizar> ok
[03:15] <Dillizar> go add or remove programs
[03:16] <Dillizar> and install the damn hardware tester
[03:16] <Dillizar> :D
[03:16] <carutsu> jmichaelx: I must disagree, I quite like the new KDE
[03:16] <carutsu> Dillizar: :D !!
[03:16] <jmichaelx> carutsu: liking it and calling it stable are two entirely different things.
[03:17] <carutsu> jmichaelx: this is a topic that has been discussed several times, I won't argue anymore you are free to use Fedora 10 :)
[03:17] <Dillizar> carutsu, type hardware in , an select Hardware Testing Hardware Drivers ( but for kde
[03:17] <jmichaelx> carutsu: no argument needed or wanted
[03:17] <Dillizar> carutsu,  can you do that for me :D
[03:18] <carutsu> Dillizar: I'm doing it but it seems I can see only the GTK version
[03:19] <carutsu> Dillizar: you know what isn't it "Hardware drivers" ?
[03:19] <carutsu> no it is not, that's for private drivers
[03:20] <Dillizar> try the two programs i have suggested ok :P
[03:20] <Dillizar> and tell me if one of them works
[03:20] <Dillizar> :P
[03:21] <carutsu> ok
[03:22] <Dillizar> :)
[03:23] <carutsu> it _is_ being detected
[03:23] <Dillizar> what
[03:23] <carutsu> "Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02) Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)"
[03:23] <carutsu> the wireless card
[03:23] <Dillizar> so
[03:23] <Dillizar> install
[03:24] <carutsu> err this is a "Did this work" program
[03:25] <Dillizar> so it didnt work
[03:25] <Dillizar> i think
[03:25] <Dillizar> you will see on the panel
[03:25] <Dillizar> new driver needed
[03:26] <Dillizar> carutsu, try jockey-gtk
[03:27] <carutsu> I have jockey-kde... but it says that no closed driver is needed
[03:27] <Dillizar> ok
[03:27] <Dillizar> ok
[03:28] <Dillizar> did you installed "Hardware Drivers"
[03:29] <carutsu> Dillizar: it's jockey
[03:29] <carutsu> i'll try though
[03:30] <carutsu> nop neither jockey-gtk mm
[03:31] <Dillizar> i didnt understand you installed "Hardware Drivers"? or not
[03:31] <carutsu> yes, it contains "jockey-gtk"
[03:32] <carutsu> weirdly enough the command "hwls" does detect the wireless card: http://paste.ubuntu.com/77927/
[03:32] <Dillizar> wait how did you found Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02) Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)"
[03:33] <Dillizar> but you are saying that it doesnt work?
[03:33] <Dillizar> :D
[03:33] <carutsu> throug "Hardware testing" it is a program that goes like this: "play a sound, did you heard it? yes_ no_" "Is your card this one? yes_ no_"
[03:33] <carutsu> yep it doesn't
[03:34] <Dillizar> wait
[03:34] <Dillizar> wait
[03:34] <carutsu> ok I'm waiting
[03:34] <Dillizar> i will kick you arse for this
[03:34] <carutsu> :P
[03:34] <Dillizar> :D
[03:34] <Dillizar> is you WIFI on?
[03:34] <carutsu> yes it is
[03:34] <carutsu> lol!!!!
[03:34] <Dillizar> ok
[03:34] <Dillizar> :D
[03:34] <Dillizar> tell me what happens when you click on networks
[03:35] <carutsu> i knew you were going to say that but I couldn't type "yes it is" fast enough
[03:35] <Dillizar> :D
[03:36] <Dillizar> there is smt like choosing connection wifi.. bla bala
[03:37] <Dillizar> i am just guessing cuz i am on gnome
[03:37] <Dillizar> :P
[03:37] <carutsu> I couldn't understand that, could you rephrase?
[03:37] <Dillizar> network connection
[03:37] <Dillizar> s
[03:37] <Dillizar> yes?
[03:38] <carutsu> yes
[03:38] <carutsu> O_O it seems I didn't had restricted-modules!!!
[03:38] <carutsu> how in earth was it workin' before!!
[03:38] <carutsu> ?
[03:38] <Dillizar> did i helped
[03:38] <Dillizar> :D
[03:39] <carutsu> it doesn't seem to
[03:39] <Dillizar> lol
[03:39] <Dillizar> why
[03:39] <carutsu> I'll reboot though
[03:39] <Dillizar> nooooooooooo
[03:39] <carutsu> no
[03:39] <carutsu> ?
[03:39] <carutsu> ok, let me restart NetworkManager at least
[03:40] <carutsu> Dillizar: brb
[03:41] <carutsu> nope, didn't work
[03:41] <carutsu> Dillizar: did you say anything in my absence ?
[03:41] <carutsu> Dillizar: why don't you want me to reinstall
[03:41] <Dillizar> nope
[03:41] <Dillizar> :D
[03:41] <carutsu> i mean reboot
 Dillizar: "Did you restart the PC" that sounded so Windowish
[03:42] <carutsu> i know
[03:42] <Dillizar> :P
[03:42] <carutsu> but I don't know the command to re-scan the devices
[03:43] <Dillizar> ok restart
[03:43] <Dillizar> its 04.45 in the morning so i need to sleep so i can wake up early yo buy my ticket to paris
[03:43] <Dillizar> :D
[04:04] <sd32> !midi
[04:07] <sd32> does timidity just create midi  files, or does it play them also?
[05:20] <alessandro> /hois anon
[05:54] <ak47> hi
[05:54] <ak47> 大家好
[05:54] <alessandro> hello
[05:54] <ak47> 好安静
[05:55] <alessandro> HELLO
[05:56] <alessandro> Vistauser
[05:56] <VistaUser> yes????
[05:57] <VistaUser> huh?
[05:57] <alessandro> you are on vista?
[05:57] <VistaUser> nope
[05:57] <VistaUser> ubuntu
[05:58] <alessandro> shit i have the computer of a friend ho have a spyware and i really never had that so i do not know how to take it off
[05:59] <VistaUser> ooo
[05:59] <VistaUser> try system restoe
[05:59] <VistaUser> restore
[05:59] <alessandro> in a shell
[05:59] <alessandro> ???
[05:59] <VistaUser> oo nvm
[06:00] <alessandro> sorry i am not really good on windows
[06:00] <VistaUser> what OS are u good in?
[06:01] <alessandro> ubuntu
[06:01] <dwidmann> alessandro: try spybot s&d, and adaware ... those should help with spyware problems
[06:01] <VistaUser> lol i suck in ubunt
[06:01] <VistaUser> u
 thank you
[06:02] <kerman> which ide is well/
[06:02] <edico> i am new to ubuntu, how do i check which architecture i have installed?
[06:02] <dwidmann> kerman: what language are you working with?
[06:03] <kerman> ruby
[06:03] <dwidmann> edico: uname -m, in a shell
[06:03] <edico> thanks!
[06:04] <dwidmann> kerman: Hmm, I don't know, I've never really used Ruby much ... you could just use a text editor though ... and I think KDevelop has at least some ruby support
[06:05] <dwidmann> kerman: I think Netbeans does too
[06:50] <jabrroa_> hey does elive 1.0 gem have wifi?
[07:02] <noaXess> good morning
[07:03] <noaXess> since intrepid i have the problem than i can't put my notebook into suspend to ramor suspend to disk mode.. any idea?
[07:13] <freyyr>  Hi, I just upgraded to Intrepid and the latest fglrx isn't working with my Radeon 9550.  is there a workaround?
[07:14] <dwidmann> freyyr: I've heard the open source ati driver works well with the radeon 9500's and earlier, might be worth a try.
[07:14] <freyyr> dwidmann: thanks, i'll give it a shot.
[07:15] <dwidmann> noaXess: head on over to www.launchpad.net and file a bug, then download the hardy kernel (and any other things you need that are related, like restricted modules/drivers), and install those, they should still work.
[07:15] <noaXess> hey dwidmann
[07:16] <noaXess> i'm on adding a comment to a curren bug.. :)
[07:30] <Resistol> I can't boot with the liveCD for kubuntu 8.10, I get an error about bios 8254 something about an I/O issue that keeps just failing over and over
[07:30] <Resistol> The comp is a dell vostro 1000 laptop
[07:30] <dwidmann> Resistol: if the livecd won't work, try the alternate cd
[07:36] <m08x> hello
[07:36] <antonio__> alguno que hable español?
[07:36] <dwidmann> !es | antonio__
[07:37] <Resistol> dwidmann, in the previous release hardy, both regular and alternate live cds would boot, but the picture was crazily distorted, with multiples of everything somewhat visible, like cross eyed vision ish...  could this be related?  Is it a vostro issue?
[07:37] <antonio__> ok, muchas gracias
[07:37] <VistaUser> what are some good progs for ubuntu?
[07:37] <dwidmann> Resistol: could be
[07:38] <dwidmann> VistaUser: there are SO many. My wrists would commit suicide if I tried to type them all :P
[07:38] <VistaUser> whats r top 10 lol
[07:38] <Resistol> hah dwidmann
[07:39] <dwidmann> VistaUser: umm, good question ... they all have their own niche ... which sort of apps are you looking for (like, for doing what?)
[07:39] <VistaUser> i want to start coding so basic coding i guess
[07:40] <dwidmann> VistaUser: for writing code? Kate is very nice, so is vim.
[07:40] <dwidmann> quanta+ is nice for web stuff
[07:40] <VistaUser> i am starting i am not pro just to let u know LOL
[07:41] <dwidmann> VistaUser: I know. To be honest I'd be hesitant to recommend anything more than a glorified text editor to someone new.
[07:42] <VistaUser> oo lol
[07:42] <VistaUser> well that sucks
[07:43] <VistaUser> what do u do on ubuntu or w/e thats fun?
[07:43] <dwidmann> VistaUser: fortunately,m the ones I recommended above fall into that category (well, kind of ... vim can do some pretty wild stuff if you want it to)
[07:43] <VistaUser> oo kk
[07:43] <VistaUser> what do u do for fun on ubuntu or w/e
[07:43] <dwidmann> Hmm, mostly use it for IRC + Music playing + DVD playing
[07:44] <dwidmann> Some simple games also
[07:44] <VistaUser> ooo lol
[07:44] <VistaUser> most people seem to code
[07:44] <dwidmann> Not really.
[07:44] <VistaUser> what music player works with ipods?
[07:44] <dwidmann> VistaUser: I know amarok does, never really looked into anything else.
[07:45] <VistaUser> oo kk
[07:46] <VistaUser> well i guess i am using wrong OS for gamming but i cant install vista because well my laptop screen is broken and i am using external monitor
[07:46] <VistaUser> and it doesnt allow you to use external monitor while installing wondows
[07:47] <dwidmann> VistaUser: as per the aforementioned simple games, knetwalk, ksokoban(which hasn't been ported to kde4 (yet?)), kmahjongg, frozen-bubble, and crack-attack stand out.
[07:47] <VistaUser> oo kk
[07:48] <VistaUser> thought ubuntu would be fun but i guess i sed windows to long i am to hooked per say
[07:55] <courtjesterg> riddell help
[07:56] <courtjesterg> i got two links in my lost and found section of my kmenu that point to no where how do i remove them
[07:56] <courtjesterg> they where subdirectories in wine of which i uninstalled wine
[07:56] <courtjesterg> a game
[07:59] <avihayb> I'd like to hear the answer too
[08:09] <yellow> Hi, could someone help me with an internet connection problem with kubuntu?
[08:20] <creative> hi, just installed kubuntu !
[08:20] <VistaUser> cool
[08:20] <creative> how can i disable my primary sound card ?
[08:20] <user6> Hi at all
[08:20] <VistaUser> idk i use ubuntu lol
[08:21] <creative> cuz there is no speakers connected to it, i'd like 2 use my usb sound
[08:24] <avihayb> creative: can you find the kmix applet in your systrey?
[08:24] <creative> yeah sure !
[08:24] <avihayb> can you open it so it shows all the channles?
[08:24] <creative> yes
[08:25] <user6> There's some tutorial "step" by "step" upgrade and optimization for Kubuntu?
[08:25] <avihayb> I never seen it with more then one soundcard, but I guess that it either have one tab per sound card, or something like it
[08:26] <creative> ive chosen master
[08:26] <creative> but amarok doesnt play music
[08:26] <creative> or its playing but with no sound :(
[08:27] <avihayb> If kmix seems to be lacking channles, go to the configure chanles option under the settings menu, and mark evrything (that you want)
[08:27] <avihayb> *everything
[08:28] <user6> !windows
[08:28] <user6> !vista
[08:28] <avihayb> ubottu is the best
[08:29] <avihayb> ohh, he is so modest...
[08:29] <birnisson> hi, I installed opera in order to use a feature it apparently has, how do I get flash working? I got the flash plugin which works in konqueror/firefox
[08:58] <manish> genii: is it possible to make windows transparent or translucent in intrepid
[08:58] <Flatlin3> you mean like using emerald?
[08:59] <Flatlin3> you can make the borders transparent
[08:59] <manish> i dont know how to do it in emrald either
[08:59] <Flatlin3> sorry, haven't used emerald, but i've read about it
[08:59] <manish> can you help me with that please. It will be as good as using GDE
[08:59] <Flatlin3> seen a screenshot and it looked pretty cool
[08:59] <manish> ok then can you explain how to make windows transparent in GDM
[09:00] <Flatlin3> sorry, not sure
[09:00] <manish> i am not against any DE but want the end result
[09:00] <manish> any way to make wondws transparent
[09:01] <manish> ???
[09:02] <manish> genii: Do u knw ne way???
[09:03] <manish> or any body else knows some way to make windows translusent or transparent???
[09:03] <avihayb> in the new kubuntu manish?
[09:03] <VistaUser>  how i partition drive so i can dual boot between ubuntu and fedora?
[09:04] <manish> ya with latest updates avihayb:
[09:04] <tung> Hello
[09:04] <avihayb> well, there is an icon on the top left of each window's decoration
[09:05] <tung> how to install palktalk for kubunbu?
[09:05] <avihayb> click it, and you should get a dropdown menu contining some nice options lakie changeing the ammount of transperacy
[09:06] <manish> VistaUser: when you install ubuntu go in for manual formatting the disk there you format one of the partitions to ext3 and make it root and then install ubuntu on it
[09:07] <avihayb> VistaUser: there should be some software for it already installed like gparted for ubuntu. but you should look for an online manual
[09:07] <manish> avihabb: so there is no option to make the window transparent in that icon and secondly i want to make the transparency the default
[09:07] <VistaUser> ok
[09:07] <paskog01> ubuntu ftl
[09:07] <paskog01> can't even run my .exes
[09:07] <VistaUser> someone said while i install fedora it will ask me if i want to partition
[09:07] <VistaUser> is that true?
[09:07] <avihayb> manish: to see that option, you need to let kwin manage your desktop effect thing
[09:08] <manish> avihayb: i want to make the transparency a default condition so that all the windows are atleast 50 % transparent
[09:08] <manish> avihayb: i am using gnome as of now so can you tell me how do i do it in gnome.
[09:09] <avihayb> umm, nope, I don't use gnome on my PCs, and I couldn't figure it out on the computer farm
[09:09] <manish> paskog01: #fedora
[09:10] <avihayb> if you have a compositor plagin manager, you should try to tinket with it. usualy there  is one plugin that lets you set transperacy for everything other then the current window
[09:10] <manish> ok so can you tell me how do i make it work on KDE
[09:10] <manish> and how do i switch back to kwin
[09:11] <manish> i already tried it on compiz fusion
[09:11] <manish> avihayb:
[09:11] <avihayb> ok, I don't know how to do it for every window, only for the windows without focuse, and you'll have to do it manualy for each window, as far as I know
[09:12] <avihayb> there might be a way, I'm checking it now
[09:13] <manish> avihayb: k i am waiting ...
[09:13] <paskog01> answer= use windows
[09:13] <avihayb> ok, there is a way
[09:13] <manish> and what is that...?
[09:14] <avihayb> first go to system settings
[09:14] <manish> and
[09:14] <avihayb> look for the desktop applet
[09:14] <manish> in the look and feel section right...?
[09:15] <avihayb> ya
[09:15] <manish> paskog01 what do you mean
[09:15] <manish> avihayb: ok then next
[09:15] <avihayb> in the applet, under desktop effects, there is an option to let kwin manage the windows
[09:15] <avihayb> err enable desktop effects
[09:16] <avihayb> mark a v there, hit apply
[09:16] <avihayb> actualy, you need to mark an x, but nm
[09:16] <avihayb> if your computer didn't crash
[09:16] <manish> its already enabled... go on
[09:17] <avihayb> you should now have the ability to click on an aplication icon and change it's opacity
[09:17] <avihayb> manualy
[09:17] <avihayb> do you have it?
[09:17] <manish> application...?
[09:18] <avihayb> I mean any window
[09:18] <manish> i can see only 3 options that is "Improved window management , shadows and various animations " and one tab which says "all effecits and every thing is already enabled
[09:19] <avihayb> I mean what I described before, that you can now click on the icon on the left side of a window decoration, ahn pick an opacity from the drop down list that appears
[09:19] <avihayb> ahn->and
[09:20] <manish> but there is no option for opacity under that button
[09:20] <avihayb> you have a To Desktop, and advanced, and move resize, and all that?
[09:21] <manish> there are only these options " minimise maximise move resize always on top, always on visible work space, only onthis workspace...
[09:21] <manish> ya one more option ...move to another workspace"
[09:22] <avihayb> wird. do you have a"configure window behaviour"?
[09:22] <manish> nop
[09:22] <avihayb> and you'r useing kubuntu with kwin as the window manager?
[09:23] <avihayb> umm, maybe I should put that differently
[09:24] <manish> my window manager is compiz
[09:24] <avihayb> can you chanege it to kwin? you'll lose some compiz effects, but kwin isn't all that bad
[09:25] <Niteye> i hate KDE4's lack of stability, because it looks so damn good but i cant use it because it crashes
[09:25] <manish> ya but i did it and i got the transparent windows but there is this new problem ... my avant windows navigaotr which was in the bottom  now came on top and i cant operate anything bacause od it
[09:26] <avihayb> you can disable it's always on top status
[09:27] <manish> ok got every thing to work now
[09:27] <manish> now please can you give me one last help
[09:27] <avihayb> in they decoratioon icon's dropdown window, under advanced, you hav a keep above others that you can disable, or keep below others that you can try to enable
[09:27] <manish> tell me what all did i loose on switching from compiz to kwin
[09:28] <avihayb> as far as I know, compiz and kwin have different plugins, that create different effects
[09:28] <manish> hey dude i lost my mac osx look of title bar ... how can i get it back
[09:28] <avihayb> some of them look preaty damn close
[09:29] <avihayb> in the system settings applet under look and feel, there is apperence.
[09:30] <manish> like minimize and maximise
[09:30] <manish> so wht do i do there
[09:30] <avihayb> under widget style, I think you need to select oxygen
[09:30] <manish> its already oxygen
[09:31] <avihayb> oh, sory, in the left side of the applet, pick windows
[09:31] <avihayb> it should let you pick a different set of decorations
[09:32] <blubb> After updating to intrepid, I don't have the latest kernel in my grub menu, what do I need to do?
[09:33] <manish> but there is no decoration named mac style ... do you have any idea how can i get it
[09:33] <manish> can i download it or something
[09:34] <avihayb> blubb: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ? as far as I know, a newer kernel came out yesterday, and the update prosess should fix the /boot/grub/menu.1st file automagicaly. you can also try to change it manualy
[09:35] <avihayb> manish: yhe, but first try all the options available there
[09:35] <blubb> avihayb: hmm isn't there some reconfigure I could do? I just updated...
[09:35] <manish> done
[09:35] <avihayb> did you find the macOS style?
[09:35] <manish> i would have told oyu
[09:35] <manish> you
[09:35] <avihayb> yes, blub, there is. I'm just not sure how.
[09:36] <blubb> not sure which package actually... the image does not help imho
[09:37] <avihayb> manish: well, you can download it, where and how, I don't know, because I havn't messed with that stuff
[09:37] <blubb> hmm which tool was it with --reconfigure? dpkg`
[09:37] <manish> ok
[09:38] <manish> can you suggest the key words like should i type kwin mac os Theme
[09:38] <manish> and stuff
[09:38] <avihayb> blubb: the gui way: open synaptic, search for kernel, pick the package, and click reinstall
[09:38] <avihayb> kde macOS theme
[09:38] <manish> ok thanks will try that and get back to you
[09:39] <manish> thanks for the help
[09:39] <blubb> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/48063
[09:39] <avihayb> the macOS theme has a name, I just don't remember it
[09:40] <blubb> it helped
[09:40] <blubb> anyone knows why I don't get the kde4 splash after login? It just does not show up here
[09:40] <courtjesterg> ok question people anyway been doing research so kubuntu is not the creators of the kde desktop right!1 So there are many linux disto's out there that use the kde desktop! So what does kubuntu add to the kde desktop? As far as i seen i dunno?
[09:41] <avihayb> oh, and you can run update-grub?
[09:42] <avihayb> courtjesterg: go to http://www.kubuntu.org/ read the What is kubuntu section. it should give you the big image
[09:42] <courtjesterg> like for instant x-goblin you can install with 4 different windows managers including a the kde desktop enviroment with all the apps that kde offer i don't get it what does these distos add
[09:43] <courtjesterg> i love the kde enviroment so why do i need to use it from kubuntu? Thats what i am talking about
[09:44] <courtjesterg> yeah but kde is there own software desktop kubuntu only uses it. Kde comes out with there own ipdates
[09:45] <avihayb> courtjesterg: You don't. you can pick any linux distro you want. kubuntu and ubuntu try to give you a full set of softwares to boot, and try to make the whole linux desktop expirience easyer
[09:46] <avihayb> and there is always the nice comunity
[09:47] <courtjesterg> so what software has kubuntu added to this desktop enviroment
[09:47] <courtjesterg> everything with k i guess came from kde
[09:48] <avihayb> yhe, but they "hand picked" it. and not everything with k kame from kde
[09:50] <avihayb> look at http://www.kde.org/whatiskde/project.php under "The Current KDE distribution" there is a linked list of kde.org software
[09:50] <courtjesterg> maybe but so far it looks like it going down the list
[09:51] <courtjesterg> ijust want the different say if i just downloaded and use kde instead of kubuntu
[09:51] <avihayb> ya, well kubuntu gives you openoffice by deafult instead of the koffice Suite
[09:52] <avihayb> kde is not a distribution. it is a window manager/environment thingy for xwindows. xwindows can be run on most linux distributions
[09:53] <courtjesterg> its not the same KOffice Components http://www.kde.org/whatiskde/koffice.php
[09:54] <avihayb> I beg your pardon?
[09:58] <courtjesterg> so sun micros make open office
[10:03] <avihayb> courtjesterg: indeed
[10:04] <avihayb> oh, and konqour is neat, but KHTML is kind of week, so I opt for installing FireFox
[10:04] <avihayb> week->weak
[10:04] <courtjesterg> ok so kubuntu just puts there name on the kde desktop and distribute it and compile it for kde and include open office in there shipment
[10:05] <avihayb> you could say that, but you make it sound like it's bad
[10:06] <courtjesterg> i am just wondering what real software or additions have they actually added to the kde desktop there selfs. I mean i fi can compile the kde desktop through open office into it wow and put my name its great
[10:06] <avihayb> like i said. kde is just a shell, that runs on a windowing environment that runs on linux.
[10:06] <courtjesterg> lol you see
[10:06] <theorix> help
[10:07] <avihayb> in the MS windows world KDE is the equivilent of the explorer.exe process
[10:07] <wesley_> I cant play mp3´s on kubuntu kde3 with juk kde3
[10:07] <avihayb> theorix: help will get you nowhere. describeing a problem will get you a solutioon (maybe)
[10:07] <avihayb> wesley_: nither could I
[10:08] <avihayb> I just installed and ran juk-kde4
[10:08] <courtjesterg> now i am wonder what cersion of kde i am running lol
[10:08] <wesley_> in kde4 its just installing kubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:08] <courtjesterg> they just let the beta cap out
[10:09] <courtjesterg> i still got to remove old kernal verions from 7 i am at 10 intreibd now
[10:10] <avihayb> you don't have to remove the old versions
[10:12] <wesley_> some one know how juke in kde3 does play mp3
[10:13] <avihayb> well, there are two packages that I think you need
[10:13] <avihayb> !libffmpeg
[10:13] <VistaUser> !packages
[10:13] <avihayb> !libxineffmpeg
[10:14]  * avihayb is LAZY
[10:16] <VistaUser> any packages like compiz-fusion
[10:19] <nvi> hi. what is the command to check what graphic drivers are being used atm?
[10:19] <jakub> hi all
[10:19] <nvi> hi
[10:19] <JamesSVK> im beginner in compiling can anyone help me?
[10:20] <malharhak> What's your problem?
[10:23] <avihayb> nvi: umm, well glxinfo will tell you what you want to know. you might also want to try glxinfo|less
[10:24] <nvi> thanks it did help
[10:26] <courtjesterg> #kde-devel
[10:35] <buuuble> I'm following http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2-rc-1, but I can't install amarok-kde
[10:35] <sigp239> Is there a tool that can auto-add new operating systems to my grub menu?
[10:36] <buuuble>   amarok-kde4: Hängt ab: kdelibs5 (>= 4:4.1.3) aber 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu11 soll installiert werden
[10:36] <horst-uwe> hallo
[10:42] <ubuntu_> how to input chinese words?
[10:51] <buuuble> anyone has a bcm (broadcom) wireless card and uses it on latest kubuntu?
[10:51] <aftertaf> yo. anyone testing 4.2 beta from the ppas yet?
[10:52] <andersin> I wasn't aware that was available yet
[10:52] <aftertaf> Riddell: it's looking very very good . . . .:)
[10:53] <aftertaf> yeah, project neon nightly cvs packages
[10:53] <aftertaf> but ive found a couple of boogs
[10:53] <buuuble> whats the most clean way to remove old kernel images?
[10:53] <aftertaf> buuuble: apt-get remove, or uninstall from adept .  .
[10:54] <buuuble> aftertaf: will this clean menu.lst as well?
[10:55] <aftertaf> yep. automagic kernel :)
[10:55] <aftertaf> ubuntu is configured to scan for these changes and make the changes  :)
[10:58] <derjens> hello everybody
[10:58] <buuuble> aftertaf: oki doki
[10:59] <derjens> i've been using kubuntu for about 1months after switching from gentoo linux. kubuntu is just great! thanks to any dev here
[10:59] <aftertaf> derjens: :)... i second that thanks . . .
[10:59] <derjens> i am experiencing problems when running 3d games... screen is flickering all the time and parts of the display are all black
[11:00] <Niteye> in adept i cant install "xine extra plugins" it is grayed out, how come?
[11:00] <PowerJC> anyone know how to get firefox to display uk search engines in kubuntu? When i install it all i get is us search einges
[11:00] <derjens> my laptop has intel graphics and in 2d mode everything works fine
[11:00] <aftertaf> Niteye: u have all the repositories active? multiverse, universe?
[11:01] <derjens> i did some research with google but all i found was a problem with krandr. this was not suitable for me (did not solve)
[11:01] <aftertaf> Niteye: if u type sudo apt-get install [pacgakename] what does it say?
[11:01] <Niteye> yep
[11:01] <derjens> you can help me solving screen flickering problems in kubuntu?
[11:01] <lyhana> Hi, lsusb doesn't show any device despite i've one connected, restart HAL have no effect. What's the matter ?
[11:01] <Niteye> hold on ill try that
[11:02] <aftertaf> ok. close apedt first ;)
[11:02] <derjens> i just had the idea to deactive all desktop effects
[11:02] <derjens> this helps!
[11:03] <Lynx_> Has anyone ever seen this graphics bug: http://i33.tinypic.com/2zgi1dy.jpg ? Where does it come from? A reboot does not always fix it, but turning off the box often does. Sometimes it goes back to normal when I open programs in KDE, but I haven't found a real rule..
[11:03] <derjens> can you recommend some way how to get desktop effects + 3d games working together properly?
[11:04] <aftertaf> anyone know where kde 4 specific bugs should be posted to?
[11:06] <aftertaf> not sure if kde bugzilla, or kubuntu . . .
[11:09] <lyhana> How do i restart the USB support ?
[11:15] <marpau> msg NickServ identify paumar
[11:15] <aftertaf> lyhana: when u connect it, type dmesg, see if anything is shown...
[11:16] <lyhana> Aftertaf:  nothin.
[11:16] <lyhana> Lsusb is damn long to display anything.
[11:16] <DarkSmoke> marpau: your forgot the / :P
[11:16] <marpau> yes
[11:17] <aftertaf> lyhana: i hate to say this... but reboot? does that change anything? (argh, windows advice)
[11:18] <lyhana> Aftertaf: yeah that work when i reboot, but i'm looking for a solution that doens't need that.
[11:18] <lyhana> Aftertaf: my HDD (usb extrenal) is reiserFS
[11:18] <aftertaf> what happens after a reboot, between when it works and when it stops working?
[11:20] <lyhana> Aftertaf: don't know, maybe i need to unplug the device before the boot and plug it when KDE is on.
[11:20] <aftertaf> hmm. try to investigate, find the cause, and report a bug.... sorry i cant help more
[11:20] <lyhana> Aftertaf: i got that :
[11:20] <lyhana> [ 3855.477396] usb 5-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 34
[11:20] <aftertaf> which version u on?
[11:21] <lyhana> Kubuntu 8.04.1 KDE 3.5.10
[11:21] <aftertaf> hardy, intrepid, kde 3.5, 4.1 ? and kernel version?
[11:21] <aftertaf> ahhhhhhhhhhh
[11:21] <aftertaf> ok.
[11:21] <aftertaf> i had that type of crap b4 also.
[11:22] <lyhana> 2.6.24-22-generic.
[11:22] <Lynx_> Is it possible to switch windows managers without closing programs running in X_
[11:22] <Lynx_> ?
[11:22] <aftertaf> 8.04.1 kernel nok i think
[11:22] <aftertaf> lyhana: dont want to upgrade to 8.10?
[11:22] <aftertaf> itll fix that problem.
[11:23] <lyhana> Aftertaf: nope, KDE4 is still behind KDE3 in my opinion.
[11:23] <aftertaf> lol...
[11:23] <aftertaf> u could enable intrepid and grab the kernel . . .
[11:23] <aftertaf> or check out backports... im sure the kernel is the pb.. that or the dbus/hal packaged around the same time.
[11:23] <lyhana> Aftertaf: I mean a lot of apps have fewer feature than their KDE3 version.
[11:23] <aftertaf> u can have kde3 apps in kde4... i do
[11:24] <aftertaf> u can pick and choose what to upgrade.... ie amarok 2 is still very beta . . .
[11:24] <lyhana> Yep, but the Desktop is too weird, doesn't like the new paradigm.
[11:24] <aftertaf> i feel like i'm on a 'feature-diet' with kde4
[11:24] <lyhana> How can i just add the new kernel ?
[11:25] <aftertaf> i got used to it and now i like it.....
[11:25] <aftertaf> pastebin me your sources.list
[11:25] <lyhana> Aftertaf: yeap and kopete4 doesn't support IRC...
[11:25] <aftertaf> u dont have to remove kopete 3... iirc
[11:26] <lyhana> I think i'll wait a bit, i'm sure KDE4 is great but to light for simple user
[11:26] <aftertaf> :)
[11:27] <aftertaf> if u have backports enabled, u should have the kernel
[11:27] <aftertaf> maybve
[11:27] <aftertaf> and the hal, dbus etc . . . .
[11:27] <aftertaf> maybe i'm completely wrong on that.... :D
[11:28]  * aftertaf just received 5 shipit CDs :)
[11:28] <lyhana> Aftertaf: http://rafb.net/p/rj9KZq79.html.
[11:28] <creative> hi hiw can i make flash working in kubuntu ?
[11:28] <creative> konqueror
[11:28] <lyhana> I don't use backport seem it's an unstable branch, non ?
[11:29] <lyhana> Creative: aptitude install adobe-flashplugin.
[11:29] <telis> hi  i wonder if there is someone who manage to configure guarddog + ktorrent
[11:30] <aftertaf> lyhana: backports are things released in newer version, and recompiled to be used in oler releases
[11:31] <aftertaf> lyhana: otherwise, your sources list loks ok.
[11:31] <lyhana> Oh~ ok.
[11:31] <aftertaf> i have an idea . . . . enable backports, run your update, see whats available for updates or new packages, and decide from that list if u want to go for it or nt...
[11:32] <lyhana> I was talking about proposed, i mix them up.
[11:32] <lyhana> Deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-backports main restricted universe multiverse.
[11:32] <aftertaf> hmm. :)
[11:32] <aftertaf> then try what i said with proposed . . .
[11:32] <aftertaf> if u dont want, you remove from sources and reupdate
[11:32] <lyhana> It's hardy-backports.
[11:33] <ThomasD> hi, I've got a little keyboard problem: laptop boots fine, at kde login I can still type, I enter username & password, but then kde doesn't accept any more keyboard input, not from the built in keyboard nor from another usb or ps/2 keyboard
[11:33] <ThomasD> anyone gor an idea what this could be?
[11:33] <ThomasD> kubuntu 8.04.1
[11:33] <lyhana> ThomasD: did you look for skim/scim issue ?
[11:33] <aftertaf> anyone have packages for openoffice 3?
[11:33] <ThomasD> lyhana: whats that?
[11:33] <lyhana> Aftertaf: on the website.
[11:34] <aftertaf> debs ?
[11:34] <lyhana> ThomasD:  an IME
[11:34] <ThomasD> lyhana: It used to work
[11:34] <ThomasD> IME?
[11:34] <lyhana> Aftertaf:
[11:34] <lyhana> # OPENOFFICE.ORGdeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu hardy maindeb http://deb.swac-collections.org/ binary/
[11:34] <lyhana> ThomasD: Input Method E...
[11:34] <lyhana> ThomasD: what did you upgrade ?
[11:34] <ThomasD> lyhana: as fas as I know, nothing special
[11:35] <aftertaf> i have those sources, but still no packages appear in list
[11:35] <aftertaf> :(
[11:35] <ThomasD> lyhana: just the regular apt-get update & upgrade
[11:35] <lyhana> Aftertaf: you're right, i used the online .deb file.
[11:36] <ThomasD> lyhana: this problem only occurs when logged in into kde,
[11:36] <ThomasD> lyhana: when I'm at the login screen i can do ctrl + alt + f1,f2 etc and i can login to the tty, and keyboard works
[11:36] <lyhana> ThomasD: try to remove scim.
[11:37] <ThomasD> lyhana: i've got scim-bridge.. scim-modules ... scim-qtimm
[11:39] <lyhana> Aftertaf: i'm using backport and the kernel avaible is 2.6.24.22
[11:40] <lyhana> ThomasD: you need them if you want to write chinese, japonese, czech, or others 'complex' wirting system.
[11:40] <ThomasD> lyhana: ok, not needed then
[11:40] <lyhana> You can give a shot, restart X (Ctrl+ALT+Backspace)
[11:41] <ThomasD> lyhana: yeah, I know that ;-)
[11:43] <ThomasD> lyhana: still nothing :/
[11:44] <Domker_> Hi, I have a problem with copying data on a USB-key. If i copy more files, the copy window shows 100% and disappears, and coping is still ongoing (LED blinks). If I stretch usb-key during blinking LED then my copied files are corrupted. [i have Kubuntu 8.10 with KDE 4.1.3 (kernel 2.6.27-10)]
[11:46] <lyhana> ThomasD: check that scim is not launch.
[11:46] <Domker_> any solution?
[11:47] <ThomasD> lyhana: seems to be a kde problem, just install xfce4 and keyboard works fine
[11:49] <ThomasD> lyhana:
[11:49] <ThomasD> lieven@lieven-laptop:~$ ps aux | grep scim
[11:49] <ThomasD> lieven    7002  0.0  0.1   3020   776 pts/1    S+   12:48   0:00 grep scim
[11:49] <ThomasD> lieven@lieven-laptop:~$
[11:49] <ThomasD> lyhana: no scim
[11:49] <lyhana> ThomasD: yep, so no idea, sorry.
[11:49] <ThomasD> lyhana: np, thanx anyway
[11:55] <hp> ciaoooooo a ttt
[11:55] <laba> sveiki
[12:05] <UbuntuUser> ni ni
[12:18] <ubuntu_> hi
[12:26] <Niteye> i dont get any sound, in amarok i see its playing but no sound come out my speakers, how could i start troubleshooting this?
[12:33] <andersin> do you use alsa?
[12:33] <andersin> try to play a wav file directly with aplay
[12:34] <andersin> Domker_: it could be that the file operation is indeed finished from an application point of view, however not all data has been cleared out of the write caches
[12:37] <Niteye> cant hear anything with aplay either
[12:42] <Niteye> UPDATE:i do get sound from my headphones, but not my main speakers
[12:43] <davy> !it
[12:47] <dust> i have probelm with KDE 4.2 beta 1, when i go to kickoff application launcher the applications, where is nothing there! i have kde 4.2 beta 1
[12:47] <dust> how do i create menu or something?
[12:48] <dust> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu intrepid main
[12:48] <dust> i use this.
[12:50] <HSG> French IRC for dev KDE ? :(
[12:50] <onsl> um non je crois pas
[12:50] <onsl> ya pas de sallon spécifique
[12:52] <HSG> Et une question en français ici ca passe ? :(
[12:52] <onsl> non
[12:52] <HSG> Arf
[12:52] <HSG> Ok too bad
[12:52] <onsl> ba essaye de traduire
[12:52] <HSG> I go to learn english
[12:52] <HSG> ...
[12:52] <onsl> je peux essayé de traduire mais bon...
[12:52] <HSG> Ok go
[12:53] <HSG> I try to use a QTreeView
[12:53] <HSG> I create this with a QAbstractItemModel
[12:53] <HSG> Create with a File like this
[12:53] <HSG> [13:39] <HSG> Server 1None
[12:53] <HSG> [13:39] <HSG>     Search 1id = 69
[12:53] <HSG> [13:39] <HSG>     Search 2status = BOX
[12:54] <HSG> [13:39] <HSG>     BookmarksNone
[12:54] <HSG> [13:39] <HSG>         Bookmark 1id = 23
[12:54] <HSG> [13:39] <HSG> Server 2None
[12:54] <HSG> [13:39] <HSG>     Search 1id = 96
[12:54] <HSG> [13:39] <HSG>     Search 2status = BAR
[12:54] <HSG> [13:39] <HSG>     BookmarksNone
[12:54] <HSG> [13:39] <HSG>         Bookmark 1id= 31
[12:54] <HSG> I wanna know, if it's the good method ?
[12:54] <HSG> I forgot to they, i creta TreeItem
[12:54] <HSG> create
[12:55] <HSG> I forgot to say
[12:55] <HSG> Sorry for my english
[13:04] <ubuntoil> Hi, what about installing ubuntu 8.10 and compiling my own kde 3.5 because I don't like kde4
[13:06] <dust_1> but I see that in kickoff I don't have applications, and from krunner I can run for e.g. firefox or konsole, but it isn't an application of nightly because I must write all the word and not for e.g. "fir" or "kons"...
[13:18] <bluuubi> ubuntoil: kde3.5 is still supported
[13:19] <ubuntoil> bluuubi: in 8.10 ?? are you sure about that, I mean I can install a kde3.5 from an 8.10..??
[13:19] <ubuntoil> from the repo?
[13:19] <bazhang> there is no 3.5 in intrepid
[13:19] <ubuntu_> is there any good itunes app for ubuntu / kubuntu 8.10 ? Need something 2 sync my iphone with ;D
[13:19] <ubuntoil> bazhang: you scared me
[13:20] <bazhang> there is a ppa that should be available sometime next week though
[13:20] <bluuubi> ubuntoil: yes thats what they say at least
[13:23] <ubuntoil> bluuubi: where did you read that. I've always thought kde4 was the only one...
[13:23] <bluuubi> hmm on their page
[13:24] <bluuubi> oh no, you need to stay with 8.04
[13:24] <ubuntoil> bluuubi: alright...
[13:26]  * bluuubi wonders if „.amarok-nightly“ -> „.kde“ is a good idea
[13:26] <bluuubi> oh yes... seeqpod asks for uid
[13:27] <bluuubi> and it runs! :D
[13:28] <bluuubi> damn wrong channel
[13:31] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[13:43] <l0newolf> is there a way to back up specific plasma widgets and mouse themes?
[13:54] <Lupus-SLE> Hey folk, does anybody else here find the Hardware Driver's manager to be completely useless?
[13:54] <Lupus-SLE> I've got an ATI card and I'm trying to get fglrx working... but for some reason it's not doing anything
[13:55] <BluesKaj> Lupus-SLE, well it does disable/enable restricted drivers and it worked to enable my new soundcard
[13:55] <Lupus-SLE> BluesKaj: That's what I thought
[13:56] <BluesKaj> Lupus-SLE, a hint , make sure that you have removed any other ATI driver you may have installed otherwise it will be the default
[13:56] <Lupus-SLE> But having selected what I want to activate and pressed the Activate button... and nothing has happened
[13:56] <Lupus-SLE> BluesKaj: This is a fresh install
[13:57] <BluesKaj> Lupus-SLE, then you should be able to make it work.
[13:57] <BluesKaj> just enable the driver and reboot
[13:58] <Lupus-SLE> But it hasn't done anything!
[13:58] <Lupus-SLE> Try again...
[13:59] <BluesKaj> describe "hasn't done anything"
[13:59] <Lupus-SLE> 1. Button pressed 2. Nothing
[14:02] <Lupus-SLE> I'm sure fglrx should appear in xorg.conf
[14:02] <Lupus-SLE> Try again...
[14:04] <mimet> !offtopic | mimet
[14:19] <vignesh>  hi all.. i am dual booting ubuntu and windows xp.. i mounted a ntfs partition using -o force since windows was not shut down properly.. then i copied a file from linux to the windows partition which was force mounted.. when i restart and get into windows im not able to see that file but the space is used up.. if i come back to linux and mount that partition again, it doesnt show that file but the space remains used up.. can someone tel me how to recover
[14:19] <vignesh>  that file ??
[14:19] <KiDFlaSh> how can i get persmission?
[14:19] <KiDFlaSh> vor a executable
[14:19] <KiDFlaSh> for*
[14:23] <florin> executable? wine?
[14:23] <vignesh>  hi.. im dual booting ubuntu & xp.. i mounted a ntfs partition using -o force since windows was not shut down properly.. then i copied a file from linux to the windows partition which was force mounted.. when i restart and get into windows im not able to see that file but the space is used up.. if i come back to linux and mount the partition again, it doesnt show that file but the space remains used up.. can sum1 tel me how to recover that file ??
[14:23] <bluuuub> what can I do to see the output on boot?
[14:25] <burn_> where to findgrub boot list to edit it?
[14:27] <bluuuub> burn_: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:28] <burn_> i have 3 linux kernels to load when i start comp, if i delete there 2 and when i start comp ill have only 1 linux in choose right?
[14:56] <creative> how can i blacklist my default soundcard ?
[14:58] <dr_willis> !blacklist
[14:59] <dr_willis> if its built in card.. its proberly best to disable it in the bios also
[14:59] <creative> good idea thx
[15:00] <didi> buongiorno
[15:00] <didi> qualcuno parla italiano?
[15:00] <bazhang> !it
[15:02] <malharhak__> Hi
[15:04] <creative> and how can i reload sound modules without reboot ?
[15:09] <blubb> anyone using ndiswrapper here with bcm?
[15:10] <blubb> I can't compile ndiswrapper: http://pastebin.com/m464a8521
[15:11] <BluesKaj> broadcom ?
[15:11] <blubb> BluesKaj: jup
[15:11] <blubb> still damn troubles
[15:11] <blubb> incredible
[15:12] <BluesKaj> !broadcom
[15:12] <blubb> I just updated to 8.10
[15:12] <blubb> I know the ins and outs of that guide
[15:12] <blubb> b43 does not work as usual
[15:12] <blubb> and now I can't get ndiswrapper to work again
[15:12] <blubb> It does not compile
[15:13] <blubb> kubuntu version does not work either... it shows the networks but I can't connect
[15:14] <BluesKaj> blubb, sorry , but I'm still using cat5 , so I'm not much help
[15:15] <blubb> hmm yes... I can use that too but I want to get it working anyway
[15:16] <dr_willis> Hmm.. On my laptop - b43 finally started working...
[15:16] <dr_willis> i did a 'clean' install however
[15:16] <blubb> dr_willis: what exact card? DId you update too?
[15:16] <blubb> hmm ok
[15:16] <blubb> I blacklisted ndiswrapper, but it still was loaded... so wtf
[15:16] <dr_willis> 4318 i think is my card.
[15:17] <blubb> and the other modules were not loaded automatically... how do I configure stuff like that in kubuntu?
[15:17] <dr_willis> First time the wireless has ever actually worked. :)
[15:17] <blubb> 4311
[15:17] <blubb> lol
[15:17] <dr_willis> theres a module autoload file, if you know the module. and a blacklist file to pervent other from loading
[15:18] <blubb> yes I know that
[15:19] <dr_willis> Thats how you configure stuff like that in Kubuntu :)
[15:19] <blubb> hmm
[15:21]  * blubb will try b43 again
[15:21] <blubb> because thats the way to go actually
[15:22] <malharhak> Hi
[15:29] <blubb> grrr
[15:29] <blubb> ndiswrapper still got loaded..
[15:29] <Galdo> hi, my computer just crashed while i was listening music on amarok ; how can i now why my computer crashed ?
[15:31] <malharhak> Isn't there any kind of crashs log?
[15:31] <blubb> how can I disable the boot splash temporarily?
[15:31] <Galdo> malharhak:  for amarok or for my computer ?
[15:31] <TheGentleman> Using Kubuntu 8.04   I did somerthing wrong with install/uninstall/delete some packages. Now, when installing some packages I get a warning that "linux-headers-2.6.24-21" index file is not present or something like that.  What should I do ???
[15:31] <malharhak> I dunno, there's one for the computer, and for Amarok, maybe
[15:32] <sedeki> man i love the new kubuntu
[15:32] <sedeki> really nice
[15:32] <sedeki> (KDE)
[15:32] <malharhak> Yeah
[15:32] <Galdo> malharhak: which is the file for the computer crash log ?
[15:32] <TheGentleman> please note that working version is 2.6.24-22,  not 21!
[15:32] <malharhak> Google's your friend, I don't remember which file it is
[15:33] <thomas__> hi
[15:33] <tuomas_> what is the best burn software??
[15:33] <TheGentleman> k3d?
[15:34] <thomas__> was ist doftware
[15:34] <tuomas_>  well i try k3b
[15:37] <blubb> now I have b43 running but I can't connect to network
[15:41] <Galdo> malharhak: this is Xorg.0.log : http://pastebin.com/df4d7e63
[15:42] <creative> how can i play videos in kubuntu ?
[15:43] <creative> i always get a message that xine is not running
[15:43] <avihayb> you could try installing vlc, that won't solve the xine problem tough
[15:45] <DawnLight> hey. i'm trying this what's written in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemOnIntrepid and i'm getting a kernel panic. actually, the premount script doesn't ask me for the passphrase and... then the kernel panics trying to mount the root filesystem. anyone has ideas?
[15:46] <creative> and how can i connect network drive ?
[15:47] <marek_> hi, how can i install kde4.2 ?
[15:48] <DawnLight> creative: what network drive?
[15:48] <creative> windows drive
[15:48] <DawnLight> creative: i think you can do smb:// and so on
[15:49] <DawnLight> i've never tried it
[15:49] <DawnLight> check the docs
[15:50] <sedeki> creative: it's quite easy in KDE.. look around the menus
[15:51] <creative> its not easy
[15:51] <creative> there is an option but not clear how to use it
[15:53] <creative> ok its okay now :D
[15:53] <Galdo> hi this is me Xorg.0.log file ; i can't see why my computer crashed : http://pastebin.com/df4d7e63
[15:53] <creative> thx
[16:13] <colin_> Galdo: I can't load the page for your Xorg.conf file
[16:14] <colin_> can you upload it again?
[16:14] <Galdo> sure
[16:14] <ubuntu_>  /server open.pl.ircnet.net
[16:14] <colin_> thanks
[16:15] <Galdo> colin_: http://rafb.net/p/5YnjRD93.html
[16:16] <acme> Hello
[16:19] <coreymon77> goodbye :P
[16:19] <colin_> so in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, try to find the reference to LoadModule: "type1"
[16:19] <colin_> that is the only failure I see
[16:21] <creative> sedeki: but my problem is that if i want to play any media on network driver, it copies that to my hard disk first (vlc, mplayer)
[16:22] <creative> the whole file, on gnome i can watch "natively"
[16:23] <pulaski> hello, when I open another tabbed session in xterm are there docs anywhere that explain the key bindings to switch from one session to the other?
[16:25] <Galdo> colin_: maybe do you want me to show you another log file ? maybe the problem is not coming from Xorg ; i'm going to be more precise ; i was listening music and was not doing anything else and then the sound freezed and the last sound repeated until i rebooter my computer ; i could not do ctrl+alt+backspace nor anything else
[16:26] <colin_> hmm
[16:26] <colin_> I'll paste mine
[16:27] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[16:28] <MilhousePunkRock> Is there a good reason why I can only mount ONE external HDD (USB, FAT32) at a time?
[16:28] <colin_> http://rafb.net/p/0uQUeX48.html
[16:28] <sedeki> MilhousePunkRock: you can mount several
[16:29] <sedeki> MilhousePunkRock: make sure you have several mount points
[16:29] <MilhousePunkRock> sedeki: Not via the media applet, when I try to mount the second one it will say "permission denied", though I mount them as user usually. Mountpoint is also defined by kio
[16:29] <Galdo> colin_: yes that's why i'm saying that the problem could come from somewhere else, for example : amarok
[16:30] <sedeki> linux allows several mount points, not sure about specific software. shouldn't really be a problem with KDE... check your fstab perhaps.
[16:31] <MilhousePunkRock> sedeki: Apparently I can mount the second drive with the good ol' mount command on the shell
[16:31] <manuel__> hi
[16:32] <manuel__> how can i open my mail acc with kmail and kwallet ? i hzave to type alway my passwd there is no link betzween kwallet and kmail how can i correct that?
[16:32] <manuel__> thanks
[16:35] <albuntu> is there any way to burn an iso to a partition in the hard drive ? i dont want just to extract the iso to the partition because i know it will not be bootable
[16:43] <colin_> albuntu: mkdir ~/isomount; sudo mount -o loop ~/isomount /path/for/iso/
[16:44] <colin_> ~ is short /home/username/
[16:44] <albuntu> colin_: is it going to boot after restarting ?
[16:45] <colin_> err, it shouldn't be restarting at all
[16:45] <albuntu> colin_: what i want to do is to use my external hard disk as a CD because i dont have a cd at the moment so i want to use me external hd
[16:46] <colin_> oooo
[16:46] <albuntu> :)
[16:46] <colin_> ok
[16:46] <colin_> thats different then
[16:46] <albuntu> thats why i asked :S
[16:48] <colin_> I don't have too much experience with that, but this how-to seems good
[16:48] <colin_> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1104496/how_to_make_a_linux_livecd_iso_boot.html
[16:49] <sedeki> how can i make firefox the standard browser, not konquerer?
[17:05] <ahmos> hi, how i can preview video in thumbnails (kubuntu intrepid ibex kde4)
[17:07] <jabrroa_> oo i would also like to know :)
[17:08] <ahmos> it seems that there is no one listening
[17:09] <ahmos> hellooooooooooooooooooo
[17:09] <ahmos> anybody here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:10] <ahmos> !videothumbnailer
[17:10] <jabrroa_> 319 people...... somebody's always here
[17:10] <jabrroa_> 320...
[17:10] <ahmos> ha ha ha
[17:10] <ahmos> 321
[17:11] <jabrroa_> 322
[17:11] <jabrroa_> lol
[17:11] <francisc1701> Ahmos: i'm listening, but i have no idea about your problem :)
[17:11] <ahmos> oh
[17:11] <ahmos> thank you alot
[17:11] <jabrroa_> lol
[17:12] <jabrroa_> where's LinuxNIT when ya need him?
[17:13] <ahmos> watching our problems perhaps
[17:13] <francisc1701> Ahmos: have you tried google?
[17:14] <ahmos> i tired it before with hardy heron but now i don't see any solution
[17:14] <jabrroa_> no hes not on
[17:15] <chipbuddy> in one of my CS classes, the professor was talking about why certain command were so bare bones and irreversable. for example, rm (by default) doesn't tell you what it's about to do, and doesn't make any kind of backup. the justification is if someone wants to change the functionality of this command, they can do it themselves. and everyone who doesn't want that functionality changed isn't stuck with the overhead. what is t
[17:15] <chipbuddy> his philosophy called? i thinks something like "no unnecessary overhead". is there a more common name?
[17:15] <Guest37424> good morning
[17:16] <jabrroa_> 3 Nvidia 9800 GTX pro's 1 GB each in SLi mode
[17:16] <jabrroa_> will they work with kubuntu?
[17:21] <francisc1701> ahmos: see if mplayerthumbs works for you
[17:21] <ahmos> i will try it
[17:22] <ahmos> jabrroa: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/173.14.12/README/appendix-a.html
[17:26] <Facultas> see how kubuntu v8.10 has the folder view thing to view the desktop, is there any way to customise it so, like ubuntu, it's just a regular desktop without the folder view settings on it?
[17:29] <ahmos> francisc1701: there is no mplayerthumbs in repositories
[17:30] <marek_> hi can you tell me, my system isnt booting, i can only see floating bar under kubuntu logo
[17:33] <marek_> please help me, im stuk totally, a can do nithing, what is root password in recovery mode?
[17:33] <Larson> hi, I'm experiencing that knetworkmanager uses lots of memory (more than 100mb) on several boxes. Anyone else seeing this behavior?
[17:42] <ses59_> I am running 8.10 and it was fine but had several kernels in the grub so decided to delete some extras but hit default button and now it shows 8.04 kernels how do I rebuild the 8.10 kernels
[17:44] <marek_> please help me, im stuk totally, a can do nithing, what is root password in recovery mode?
[17:45] <ses59_> your root password should be the same as your login password if you are the only one to have logged in on the computer
[17:46] <ses59_> on my box the root password is the same as the my user who loggs in and is first one to use the box
[17:51] <francisc1701> ses59_: did you actually delete the kernels or did you just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[17:51] <ses59_> grub menu list
[17:53] <ses59_> it still logs in but as 8.04 kern 2.6.24.21
[17:53] <ses59_> it was 8.10 ker 2.6.27.10
[17:54] <ses59_> the files are there but I do not know how to get 8.10 to load with kern 27.10 unless it is loading 8.10 not 8.04 as it shows in the grub
[17:54] <francisc1701> by default, kate and kwrite create a backup of the file before they save it. if you used one of those then your old menu.lst should be called menu.lst~
[17:56] <ses59_> I just checked and it is logged in as 8.10 not what was show in grub
[18:00] <Matrixritter> hi folks
[18:00] <francisc1701> hi
[18:01] <Matrixritter> does anybody knows if there are compatibility issues when using amd/ati and nvidia graphic cards in same pc?
[18:01] <jabrroa_> yes
[18:01] <Matrixritter> what kind of problems will occur?
[18:02] <jabrroa_> if your using two or more cards they have to be of the same brand
[18:02] <jabrroa_> it wont work
[18:02] <jabrroa_> lol
[18:02] <Leander256> he didn't say he wants to plug them together
[18:02] <Matrixritter> any experiences with this?
[18:02] <BluesKaj> Matrixritter, you have to choose one graphics card as the default , if you have an oboard that you don't want to use , go into the BIOS and disable "onboard graphics"
[18:03] <Matrixritter> no, I want a multiseat setup
[18:03] <Matrixritter> so, I have a power graphics for my games and my girlfriend gets the onboard one for watching youtube
[18:04] <ses59_> ok found three menu.lst one menu.lst menu.lst_original menu.lst~ and the menu.lst has the 8.10  ker 27.10 in the list which file is the main file used by grub
[18:04] <Matrixritter> and mine is a geforce and the onboard graphics will be a ati one
[18:04] <BluesKaj> whynot just use the power one for everything?
[18:04] <jabrroa_> no
[18:04] <jabrroa_> no no no
[18:04] <jabrroa_> i am a gamer
[18:04] <jabrroa_> i know it wont work
[18:04] <Matrixritter> I don't want this fiddling with Xephyr
[18:04] <jabrroa_> use the better one
[18:05] <jabrroa_> for both
[18:05] <Matrixritter> just one X for one card
[18:05] <jabrroa_> what card is it?
[18:05] <Matrixritter> Geforce 7600 pci-e and the board has AMD 780V chipset (think ati 3200)
[18:06] <jabrroa_> x3200?
[18:06] <jabrroa_> HD
[18:06] <Matrixritter> yeah, thin so
[18:06] <jabrroa_> well i think thats better than a 76
[18:06] <jabrroa_> go for a 79
[18:06] <ses59_> thank you francisc1701
[18:06] <jabrroa_> hmmm
[18:06] <jabrroa_> are you using dual moniters?
[18:06] <Matrixritter> ah, that's not the point
[18:06] <Matrixritter> no
[18:06] <francisc1701> ses59_: don't mention it
[18:06] <Matrixritter> maybe in future
[18:07] <ses59_> I now have found the file I just need to make grub use the correct file
[18:07] <Matrixritter> I just wanted to know if there are incompatibilities
[18:07] <jabrroa_> or are you going to flip it off and plug in the onboard?
[18:07] <Matrixritter> the setup will be hard work anyway
[18:07] <jabrroa_> yes there are
[18:07] <jabrroa_> wait
[18:07] <jabrroa_> whats your motherboard?
[18:07] <jabrroa_> and what size power supply do you have
[18:08] <Matrixritter> don't care this
[18:08] <jabrroa_> ??
[18:09] <jabrroa_> you have to know
[18:09] <jabrroa_> otherwise you may not have enough power and fry your mobo
[18:09] <Matrixritter> the motherboard will be a Asus M3A78-EM (http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=149&l3=639&l4=0&model=2252&modelmenu=1)
[18:09] <jabrroa_> or your mobo may not even do nvidia att all and you just wasted money lol
[18:09] <jabrroa_> ok looking hold on
[18:10] <Matrixritter> and my power supply is 350W
[18:10] <Matrixritter> but I think i will upgrade to 450 or 550
[18:10] <jabrroa_> very nice
[18:10] <jabrroa_> good idea
[18:10] <jabrroa_> but one problem
[18:11] <Matrixritter> ?
[18:11] <jabrroa_> it does not support nvidia
[18:11] <jabrroa_> and ATi is cheaper
[18:11] <jabrroa_> anyways
[18:12] <jabrroa_> hold on
[18:12] <jabrroa_> did you buy the 7600 yet?
[18:12] <jabrroa_> Matrixritter: did you buy the 7600 yet?
[18:12] <Matrixritter> no
[18:12] <Matrixritter> I have it already
[18:13] <Matrixritter> for my old pc
[18:13] <jabrroa_> oh ok welll if you have a bit of money to spend
[18:13] <Matrixritter> man, from where do you know it doesn't will support Nvidia??
[18:13] <jabrroa_> i could point you out a good one for whatever price range you have
[18:13] <jabrroa_> its a ati based mobo
[18:14] <Matrixritter> yeah, and I never heard about any compatibility issues in this direction
[18:14] <rmitchell> Matrixritter: what interface is the nvidia card?
[18:14] <herna> holaaaaaaaaaaa
[18:14] <Matrixritter> pci-e
[18:14] <jabrroa_> its a crossfire board
[18:14] <herna> hablen en españollllllllllll
[18:14] <herna> chaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[18:14] <herna> parde de gueboness
[18:15] <rmitchell> crossfire is ATI, while SLI is nvidia, but that only matters if you have two cards
[18:15] <jabrroa_> im a gamer for MLG i build systems all the time
[18:15] <Matrixritter> yeah, and crossfire is something that will never work under linux (a) and is even useless (b)
[18:15] <jabrroa_> yes but an ati based board usually will not support nvidia
[18:15] <Matrixritter> man, never heard something like this
[18:16] <jabrroa_> hold on
[18:17] <jabrroa_> try to google it
[18:17] <jabrroa_> all i can find is people using ati
[18:20] <jabrroa_> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102719
[18:20] <jabrroa_> that is what you need
[18:20] <jabrroa_> $99
[18:20] <jabrroa_> it will Wayyyyyy out do a 7600
[18:20] <jabrroa_> it plays Crysis
[18:20] <Matrixritter> yeah, but i have no trees where money is growing on
[18:20] <jabrroa_> easy 60+ fps
[18:21] <jabrroa_> yea
[18:21] <jabrroa_> none of us do :(
[18:21] <jabrroa_> just sayin
[18:21] <Matrixritter> I know, but thanks for your help
[18:21] <jabrroa_> yea
[18:21] <jabrroa_> you could try the 76
[18:21] <Matrixritter> my top priority is now to upgrade mobo and buy dual core
[18:21] <jabrroa_> but i highly doubt it will work
[18:22] <jabrroa_> your mobo looks fine
[18:22] <Matrixritter> I think so and just care about Kernel/Driver-issues
[18:22] <jabrroa_> its just ati
[18:22] <Matrixritter> and AMD
[18:22] <Matrixritter> and it's newer than the Geforce-bases ones and will support AM3
[18:23] <Matrixritter> and not expensive at all
[18:24] <Matrixritter> maybe even the coreboot project will support it
[18:24] <Matrixritter> this would be the coolest thing
[18:24] <Matrixritter> so, I am playing Urban Terror
[18:24] <Matrixritter> cya
[18:35] <freedomjero> can someone telle me how I can access my Mybook World Edition in Kubuntu?
[18:37] <Walex2> freedomjero: yes, somebody can!
[18:37] <freedomjero> how?
[18:50] <rat> hi
[18:50] <rat> people
[18:50] <rat> hellooo
[18:50] <francisc1701> hi, rat
[18:50] <rat> yo can i ask you something
[18:51] <francisc1701> by all means
[18:51] <rat> i just installed linux for my first time
[18:51] <loganWHD> ok so i have a large external drive... and i plug it in and all is good... well i forgot to umount and rebooted a couple times now it doesnt even come up... anyone have any ideas how i can fix this PLEASE?
[18:51] <rat> kubuntu 8.10
[18:51] <rat> how to you see all your apps
[18:51] <rat> ?
[18:52] <loganWHD> be more specific rat
[18:52] <francisc1701> rat: something like "All programs" in XP ?
[18:52] <rat> like lets say i want to see the folder with internet explorer (konqueror) or organizer (korginizer) etc
[18:53] <loganWHD> you have the menu button in the bottom? the K?
[18:53] <loganWHD> in there is an applications section
[18:53] <rat> nope
[18:53] <loganWHD> if you want an "explorer" like enviroment click on the icon named Dolphin...
[18:53] <rat> oh the "k:
[18:53] <rat> "k" **
[18:53] <rat> i thought that was to shut down
[18:53] <rat> lol
[18:54] <loganWHD> :)
[18:54] <rat> LINUX IS FUCKIN AWESOME
[18:54] <loganWHD> ok so i have a large external drive... and i plug it in and all is good... well i forgot to umount and rebooted a couple times now it doesnt even come up... anyone have any ideas how i can fix this PLEASE?
[18:54] <nicola> Hi, my friends!
[18:54] <rat> windows is sooo bad its not funny, it crashed over and over
[18:54] <rat> hi nicola
[18:54] <francisc1701> hi
[18:54] <nicola> Hi rat!
[18:55] <rat> thanks logan
[18:55] <rat> hi nicola
[18:55] <loganWHD> your welcome
[18:55] <nicola> Hi Francisc1701
[18:55] <rat> where do you live guys??
[18:55] <francisc1701> at home, you? :)
[18:55] <nicola> It's my first time here!
[18:55] <rat> me tto!!!!!
[18:55] <rat> too***
[18:56] <rat> WHICH COUNTRY IS EVERYONE IN?
[18:56] <francisc1701> well, you're in canada
[18:56] <rat> USA, CANADA, AUSTRALIA, ENGLAND....?????????????????
[18:56] <nicola> my country is Italy, rat, and your?
[18:57] <rat> Canada, who else
[18:57] <JontheEchidna> !caps | rat
[18:57] <JontheEchidna> USA here though
[18:57] <rat> cool...cool sorry
[18:57] <francisc1701> me - Romania
[18:58] <nicola> my pleasure, rat, francisc..
[18:58] <loganWHD> ok so i have a large external drive... and i plug it in and all is good... well i forgot to umount and rebooted a couple times now it doesnt even come up... anyone have any ideas how i can fix this PLEASE?
[18:58] <rat> holy shit
[18:59] <rat> we have the world here
[18:59] <rat> OK EVERYONE STOP, CAN WE PLEASE JUST HELP LOGAN. poor guy, cmon!
[18:59] <francisc1701> rat: yeah, the internet seems quite popular
[18:59] <nicola> It's illusion of Internet,rat...:)
[19:00] <francisc1701> loganWHD: what did you do to fix the problem ?
[19:00] <rat> ....logan?
[19:01] <loganWHD> if i knew how to fix i wouldnt ask
[19:01] <rat> lol
[19:01] <nicola> bye bye!
[19:01] <rat> try plugging in on another pc
[19:01] <rat> if it doesnt work
[19:02] <RurouniJones> rebooting the pc without umounting the drive shouldn't make a difference since the shutdown procedure unmounts all partitions
[19:03] <rat> i think its not turned on
[19:03] <RurouniJones> As well as what rat said, first idiot test. Can you hear the drive spin-up? power lights etc?
[19:03] <rat> or try going to device manager when its plugged in, see if its there
[19:03] <francisc1701> loganWHD: what i meant to say is: "what did you do to _try_ and fix the problem?"
[19:03] <rat> go to device manager
[19:05] <timothy> #channels
[19:05] <rat> i know
[19:05] <rat> which brand is the hard drive?
[19:07] <rat> how do you do that thing where all your windows on your screen opens and you can file through them?
[19:07] <kap> you left click
[19:08] <kap> anyone have any good movies?
[19:08] <rat> like it shows all your desktops?
[19:09] <francisc1701> kap: depends on what you mean by good movies
[19:10] <ign0ramus> Anyone know how to get my browsers to render unicode glyphs? (Kubuntu Hardy, FF 3.0.4)
[19:10] <kap> i'm not sure, just need something new to watch
[19:11] <ign0ramus> for example, glyph Rub el Hizb (just a random example) renders as ۞
[19:13] <francisc1701> ign0ramus: dunno about firefox 3, but in firefox 2 it's "View" -> "Character Encoding" (I think)
[19:13] <ign0ramus> francisc1701: lemme check that out...
[19:16] <ign0ramus> francisc1701: hmm... was able to make the problem a lot worse, but not better :/
[19:17] <ign0ramus> francisc1701: i'm thinking it has to do with the OS, because Windows can view it, but Linux and Mac folks cannot.
[19:19] <francisc1701> ign0ramus: well, sorry
[19:20] <ign0ramus> francisc1701: np, thanks for the suggestion (I didn't even think to check those settings).  I've set it back to default, which works fine, except for the few cases when you come across some unicode glyph.  not really a show-stopper for me.
[19:20] <floown> hello
[19:20] <francisc1701> hi, floown
[19:21] <juan> buenas tardes necesito apoyo
[19:21] <juan> tenggo kubuntu 8.04 e instale kde 4 pero hay cosas que se repiten dos veces y quisiera eliminar las anteriores
[19:22] <noaXess> !es
[19:22] <noaXess> !es | juan
[19:22] <juan> ok
[19:22] <noaXess> nop
[19:25] <floown> I have add the neon deposit and install the kde-nightly package but I'm still in KDE 4.1.3. I have forget somethings?
[19:25] <Unksi> floown: you have to select kde-nightly from kdm before you log in
[19:25] <floown> Unksi: oh ok ^^
[19:25] <floown> thx
[19:26] <Unksi> yw
[19:26] <floown> I'll back :p
[19:29] <Roey> hello
[19:29] <Roey> is TrueCrypt in Ibex?
[19:30] <cisto> hello all
[19:30] <cisto> im new to kubuntu
[19:30] <Roey> hey cisto
[19:30] <cisto> could use some help
[19:30] <cisto> sup. im trying to find a media player for this
[19:31] <cisto> i think i have some dragon player.
[19:31] <cisto> when i get online most sites say i need real player or windows media
[19:31] <cisto> trying to find an alternative
[19:33] <cisto> anyone?
[19:33] <ign0ramus> !mplayer
[19:34] <ign0ramus> cisto: http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/
[19:34] <cisto> k thanx i'll try
[19:34] <avare> why not use kaffein
[19:35] <cisto> kaffein ?? whats the difference
[19:37] <ign0ramus> I'm not sure if the Kaffeine browser plugin is still being actively developed, and personally, I've found Kaffeine to be one of the worst KDE apps included in Kubuntu
[19:37] <RurouniJones> Really? It is the only one I found usable
[19:38] <avare> kaffein play all formats but its not play online video
[19:38] <cisto> o well thats what i want the most.. to play videos online
[19:38] <ign0ramus> RurouniJones: I've experienced plenty of crashes and redundant 'searching for codecs' that never complete.  As a standalone, I just install VLC and never look back
[19:39] <ign0ramus> cisto: * sudo apt-get install mplayer mozilla-mplayer *  Then restart Firefox
[19:39] <snarkster> can i use autofs to get around having to open dolphin all the time to mount a cd? Id like it to mount it for me automatically.
[19:39] <cisto> yea thanks i already did
[19:40] <shadowww> anyone knows how to check does my X driver supports hardware overlay surfaces?
[19:40] <shadowww> :)
[19:40] <ign0ramus> cisto: are you able to watch this now? --> http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/iceagedawnofthedinosaurs/small_t.html
[19:41] <snarkster> or is there a setting to automount cds
[19:43] <fabrizio> ciao
[19:44] <ign0ramus> snarkster: your discs are not being mounted when inserted? (You should get a prompt asking how you'd like to open it...)
[19:44] <fabrizio> !list
[19:45] <snarkster> ign0ramus: Yah Im not.. how do i fix this?
[19:46] <ign0ramus> snarkster: are you able to see the disc in "media:/" ?
[19:46] <snarkster> ign0ramus: I get the little slide up window in device notifier but i want to automount them
[19:46] <snarkster> yes I can see it
[19:46] <snarkster> at the moment I have D2 LOD in and it does work.
[19:46] <ign0ramus> snarkster: right-click > properties > automount
[19:46] <snarkster> it also doesnt remember that its already mounted.
[19:47] <ign0ramus> snarkster: oh, you're on KDE4?
[19:47] <snarkster> yes I am
[19:47] <snarkster> 4.1.2
[19:48] <ign0ramus> snarkster: hmm... not sure if it makes a difference.  Were you able to set your disc drive to automount?
[19:48] <snarkster> when i goto /media its not showing up anymore, but the cdrom0 icon when i highlight it says that its the expansion cd fro D2
[19:48] <snarkster> no there is no automount option
[19:49] <ign0ramus> snarkster: Did it work for you in KDE3.5.x ?
[19:49] <snarkster> i havent had 3.5 on this machine
[19:52] <ign0ramus> snarkster: do you have a line in your fstab about your optical drive?
[19:52] <snarkster> thats a good question..
[19:52] <snarkster> let me check that
[19:53] <snarkster> yes i do and it says noauto
[19:53] <snarkster> let me open it as sudo and\ edit that
[19:56] <snarkster> nope still no option to automount the cd
[19:56] <snarkster> where would i find that auto mount again?
[19:57] <ign0ramus> snarkster: did you restart X after making the change?
[19:57] <snarkster> no
[19:57] <snarkster> i didnt htink restarting x made any difference
[19:57] <ign0ramus> snarkster: fstab changes won't take effect until X or the system is restarted
[19:57] <snarkster> oh duh
[19:57] <ign0ramus> :P
[19:57] <snarkster> brb
[20:00] <DaSkreech> ign0ramus: Huh?
[20:01] <ign0ramus> DaSkreech: wha?
[20:01] <DaSkreech> You need to reboot to have fstab changes take effect ??
[20:02] <loganWHD> anyone in 8.10?  what is the name of the control panel system settings gui thing?
[20:02] <ign0ramus> DaSkreech: almost positive.
[20:02] <ign0ramus> loganWHD: i don't have it, but I think its "system settings"
[20:02] <fluteAlAnus> Hi, I have a macbook pro and my dvd player was going pretty well till tonight. When I insert a dvd in my dvdplayer, it spins for ~15 secs and then eject it
[20:02] <francisc1701> loganWHD: isn't it kcontrol ?
[20:03] <fluteAlAnus> I tried with 10 different DVD (RW) and nothing works
[20:03] <gpops> how can I know what version of kubuntu I am using?
[20:03] <loganWHD> kcontrol might be in thanks
[20:04] <snarkster> ign0ramus: nope still no automount
[20:04] <ign0ramus> gpops: lsb_release -a
[20:04] <ign0ramus> snarkster: hmm... and 'automount' is checked in media:/ > cdrom
[20:05] <loganWHD> no not kcontrol
[20:05] <gpops> ign0ramus: thanks,
[20:05] <ign0ramus> gpops: np
[20:05] <snarkster> i do not have an option to automount in media:/>cdrom
[20:06] <ign0ramus> snarkster: i'm still on KDE3.5.x ... i'm not sure how to help you, gui-wise
[20:06] <snarkster> ah
[20:06] <snarkster> ok
[20:06] <ign0ramus> snarkster: but having the "auto" line in your fstab should have done the trick...
[20:06] <fluteAlAnus> and I do not have any troubles with commercial dvds
[20:06] <snarkster> ah ok
[20:06] <snarkster> thanx for your help Ill make that change.
[20:06] <loganWHD> so anyone else know what the name of the systems settings thing is in 8.10
[20:07] <manish> hey guys i want to upgrade my openoffice 2.4 that was shipped by default to openoffice 3.0.... please tell me how to do that
[20:08] <manish> genii: finally i have succeeded to install openoffice 2.4 from the repositories now can you help me upgrade it to 3.0
[20:08] <loganWHD> can someone using 8.10 just go to their menu and look?
[20:09] <epimeth> loganWHD: system settings....
[20:09] <francisc1701> loganWHD: sorry, I'm using hardy
[20:09] <utente> che fai di bello?
[20:10] <loganWHD> thanks epimeth
[20:10] <loganWHD> let me search for that
[20:10] <epimeth> loganWHD: it's under "settings"
[20:11] <loganWHD> i need to install it
[20:11] <loganWHD> and dont know what its called
[20:12] <DaSkreech> ign0ramus: But not accurate :)
[20:12] <ign0ramus> DaSkreech: source?
[20:12] <DaSkreech> loganWHD: it's systemsettings
[20:12] <DaSkreech> snarkster: You need to look at udev rules
[20:13] <DaSkreech> manish: Get it from the OO.o site
[20:13] <loganWHD> THANK YOU
[20:13] <DaSkreech> !it
[20:14] <DaSkreech> ign0ramus: next time you run any mount command it should check the fstab but it's likely that he doen't have a automount udev rule
[20:14] <manish> cant i install it from the repositories because genii said that if i dont install it from the repos i will not be able to get updates and stuff
[20:14] <DaSkreech>  Ubuntu keeps playing with them so they inevitably work better for some people and worse for others :(
[20:14] <DaSkreech> manish: No you can't. If you want it you can install it
[20:14] <DaSkreech> OO.o provides Debian debs
[20:15] <ign0ramus> DaSkreech: so theoretically, you could make the changes in fstab, issue a 'mount -a', and be good from there?
[20:15] <manish> but then again i will face the same probs of no updates right??? Daskreech
[20:15] <DaSkreech> it won't interfere with anythign on your computer and you can have the official OO.o2.4  to fall back on/upgrade and the 3.0 to use any features you want
[20:15] <DaSkreech> manish: No it will update. It doesn't inerfere with the 2.4
[20:16] <DaSkreech> in 5 months you will update to the new OO.o
[20:16] <DaSkreech> ign0ramus: Right
[20:16] <manish> so how  do i do that
[20:16] <manish> i mean i simply need to donwload the deb and click on it to install
[20:16] <manish> ?
[20:16] <DaSkreech> Something to that extent
[20:16] <DaSkreech> Then you may want to have a shortcut to the install
[20:16] <DaSkreech> Since it's out of your path
[20:17] <DaSkreech> or drop it into your path which ever
[20:17] <loganWHD> i want to adjust my sound settings cause they are not working... and i installed a very stripped down version of kubuntu
[20:17] <loganWHD> and now i can't get to my settings to adjust
[20:17] <loganWHD> ugh
[20:17] <ign0ramus> manish: http://download.openoffice.org/other.html#en-US
[20:20] <manish> is it possible for you DaSkreech to tell me how to build it using rpm packages. As i have a slow connection and by mistake idonwloaded the rpm package two days ago
[20:21] <ign0ramus> manish: install alien
[20:21] <manish> and what  is that for
[20:21] <ign0ramus> manish: ' sudo alien -i <package.rpm> '
[20:21] <manish> and what do i do after that
[20:22] <DaSkreech> loganWHD: use alsamixer
[20:22] <DaSkreech> manish: Alien I would guess but if you havea slow connection what is the interest in OO.o 3 ?
[20:23] <loganWHD> i have alsamixer instaallled
[20:23] <DaSkreech> manish: You should have a RPM directory in the tarball you got. you will need to sudo alien -i RPM/*
[20:23] <ign0ramus> loganWHD: so run 'alsamixer' and adjust your settings... see if there's anything muted
[20:23] <loganWHD> nada nothing muted
[20:23] <loganWHD> did that
[20:24] <manish> please telll me step by step what do i do
[20:24] <ign0ramus> loganWHD: not sure how it works in KDE4, but do you have sound on 'autodetect'?
[20:24] <loganWHD> i believe so
[20:24] <manish> as of now i am extracting the oo.gz on to my desktop
[20:24] <loganWHD> when i boot up
[20:24] <loganWHD> it says the device is not working so it goes to default
[20:25] <ign0ramus> !sound
[20:25] <DaSkreech> manish: You should have a RPM dir inside
[20:25] <manish> ok done with the extraction
[20:25] <manish> wait i will check
[20:26] <loganWHD> i did a very scaled down install of kubuntu and dont have a System Settings > Sound System
[20:26] <loganWHD> i want to install but dont know what it is called
[20:26] <ign0ramus> loganWHD: what does 'aplay -l' tell you?
[20:27] <manish> i have an rpms directort
[20:27] <manish> directory
[20:27] <manish> inside the gz package
[20:27] <manish> that i extracted
[20:27] <loganWHD> can i paste?
[20:27] <manish> now what do i do please guide
[20:27] <ign0ramus> loganWHD: if it's more than 2 lines, use pastebin
[20:27] <ign0ramus> !paste
[20:28] <loganWHD> http://pastebin.com/m56fbb756
[20:28] <manish> DaSkreech : u there ,please tell me what do i do now ,. i have a rpms dir inside the dir i extracted just now
[20:29] <DaSkreech> manish: You have alien installed?
[20:29] <manish> i dont know
[20:29] <ign0ramus> loganWHD: well, that's good - your card is recognized.
[20:29] <DaSkreech> manish sudo apt-get install alien
[20:29] <ign0ramus> loganWHD: are you on a laptop?
[20:29] <loganWHD> yes
[20:29] <ign0ramus> what model?
[20:29] <loganWHD> dell inspirion 9400
[20:30] <manish> installing
[20:30] <ign0ramus> loganWHD: well, you have HDA Intel sound... this may help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[20:30] <manish> after that what do i do .... it will take about 15 mins so please tell me now so that i dont bother you ffor some time
[20:30] <manish> DaSkreech:
[20:31] <\Kira> Im trying to VNC into a remote host, and I get a connection closed error on my computer and a connection refused error on the remote host, any help? Im not very familiar with VNC
[20:33] <DaSkreech> manish: sudo alien -i /path/to/dir/RPMS/*.rmp
[20:33] <DaSkreech> rpm
[20:35] <DaSkreech> manish: Why are you interested in OO.o 3?
[20:35] <manish> DaSkreech after that
[20:36] <manish> i  want to keep my system updated to the extent i can . i dont mind working a bit extra for this and it gives a lot of learning exp too
[20:37] <DaSkreech> manish: Do you have a /opt/openoffice.org3 dir ?
[20:37] <manish> what is that
[20:37] <manish> i have a dir whcih i downloaded from the site u jst mentioned 2 days ago
[20:38] <DaSkreech> manish: Yes but do you now have a directory named /opt/openoffice.org3 ?
[20:39] <manish> wait ll chk
[20:39] <manish> no
[20:40] <manish> what does sudo alien -i /path/to/dir/RPMS/*.rmp does
[20:41] <DaSkreech> manish: its *.rpm my fault
[20:44] <manish> when i run that command its showing some warning regarding jre
[20:44] <manish> something
[20:44] <manish> Skipping conversion of scripts in package jre: postinst postrm prerm
[20:44] <manish> Warning: Use the --scripts parameter to include the scripts.
[20:44] <manish> what should i do
[20:45] <DaSkreech> OO.o likes Java
[20:45] <manish> ya now its setting up jre .16.0_07-1
[20:45] <DaSkreech> I remember having java errors with the debs as well
[20:45] <manish> ok
[20:45] <DaSkreech> There you go :)
[20:46] <_2> manish have you tried adding the --scripts switch ?
[20:46] <manish> so is ther ne thing to worry
[20:46] <manish> and can u once again assure me that i will get the updates
[20:46] <manish>  what --scripts where was i supposed to add that
[20:46] <_2> nm
[20:47]  * DaSkreech shrugs. converting from package to the other is a dark art long frowned upon by the gods awith no recourse for those who dabble in it
[20:47] <manish> :)
[20:47] <_2> DaSkreech heh.  there's always a recourse   ;/
[20:48] <_2> it's just not always favourable
[20:48] <DaSkreech> manish: The OO.o official packages are quite distinict from any of the distro packages. They make very little modifcation to the system and will stay out of the way of anything installed. Unless you remove OO.o 2.4 yourself you will get the update then you can simply remove the OO.o offical packages
[20:48] <DaSkreech> _2: Touche
[20:48] <manish> hey_2 ever tried blog.gears on linux
[20:49] <_2> nope
[20:49] <manish> ok
[20:49] <manish> u DaSkreech?
[20:49] <DaSkreech> No idea what that is
[20:50] <manish> its giving me a JSON error ... dunno what that means .... am reaserchin on that
[20:50] <manish> it uses google gears to give you offline blogging solution
[20:50] <DaSkreech> Java
[20:50] <DaSkreech> oooooh
[20:50] <manish> what ....?
[20:51] <DaSkreech> like kblogger
[20:51] <manish> i dont know about kblogger unless u give me hint
[20:51] <DaSkreech> !info kblogger
[20:51] <DaSkreech> !info kblog
[20:51]  * DaSkreech blinks
[20:52] <manish> heh
[20:52] <manish> e
[20:52] <DaSkreech> !info kblogger-kde4
[20:52] <manish> thats ok u can tell me as such
[20:52] <DaSkreech> Ah
[20:52] <manish> so what does that mean .... a bit technical for me i guess
[20:53] <DaSkreech> !info coreutils
[20:53] <DaSkreech> ah ok
[20:53] <DaSkreech> It attachs to a blog engine with credintals and allows you to blog
[20:53] <DaSkreech> It's integrated into Kontact for KDE 4.2
[20:53] <manish> what ok can u explain in simple words ...... i dont understand geek ....   :)
[20:54] <DaSkreech> so if you blog on Blogger Livejournal wordpress etc you tell it the type of blog and the username login then you just type up like normal
[20:54] <manish> i use evoluion and gnome over kubuntu
[20:54] <DaSkreech> Click post and youpost
[20:54] <_2> manish if you are going to run linux you have to learn to speek geek
[20:54] <DaSkreech>  You can do a whole bunch then go online click post and it posts all of them
[20:54] <manish>  later found out gnome is better for me than kde
[20:55] <DaSkreech> _2: You don't have to. Going to be miserable if you don't though
[20:55] <manish> y'a learning quite fast than i expected i would but still a new bie
[20:55] <manish> so can i use it with evolution
[20:56] <_2> it's required,  sorry there are no exceptions.     except it someone else does all your admin crap for you.    or except if you only do very basic and "default" things with it.   or....
[20:56] <DaSkreech> manish: Evolution has a built in Blog Engine now?
[20:56] <DaSkreech> That's sweet
[20:56] <manish> what ....!!!
[20:56] <manish> where ???
[20:56] <DaSkreech> _2: What's wrong with basic and default things?
[20:56] <manish> and how do i use it
[20:56] <manish> i never knew that
[20:57] <DaSkreech> manish: I don't know you said that you would use evolution for that I thought that it had a blogger in it now
[20:57] <DaSkreech> I thought that you were using blogs.gears with Evollution somehow
[20:57] <_2> DaSkreech so pas'se
[20:57] <manish> oh sorry for that miscommunication
[20:57] <manish> my mistake
[20:57] <manish> naaaaa
[20:58] <manish> u indian ... any of u 2 guys
[20:58] <DaSkreech> I live two doors away from the Indian Embassy
[20:58] <DaSkreech> Does that count?
[20:58] <_2> only the half that can't drink
[20:58] <manish> :)
[20:59] <_2> (american indian, humour)
[20:59] <manish> in which country...?
[20:59] <manish> ok so so is it possible to use kblogger with evolution...?
[21:00] <manish> i am done with oo now
[21:00] <DaSkreech> manish: You have a /opt/openoffice.org3 dir ?
[21:00] <_2> evolution is a gtk app and kblogger-kde4 is a qt/kde4 app    not likely that they will play nice with each other
[21:01] <manish> both oo,o and oo.,o3
[21:01] <manish> but there is this little prob that s bothering me
[21:01] <manish> when i open oo the thing that opens is oo2.4
[21:01] <manish> and not oo3
[21:02] <manish> how do i open oo3
[21:02] <DaSkreech> manish: You have a /opt/openoffice.org3 dir ?
[21:02] <manish> ya
[21:02] <manish> and openoffice dir also
[21:02] <manish> so wht does that mean
[21:02] <manish> and how do i open openoffice 3
[21:02] <sourcemaker> are there kubuntu packages for kde 4.2?
[21:03] <DaSkreech> manish: ok run /opt/openoffice.org3/program/swriter
[21:03] <DaSkreech> sourcemaker: There is no KDE 4.2
[21:03] <HappySmileMan> There is 4.2 beta 1
[21:03] <sourcemaker> DaSkreech: yes i know... but a KDE 4.2 Beta 1
[21:04] <DaSkreech> sourcemaker: ah not as yet the developer team was pretty much out of office this week so possibly by monday
[21:04] <HappySmileMan> I think we're just supposed to use kde-nightly for it, but personally I'd prefer proper beta packages I can upgrade to, like they did with 4.1
[21:05] <DaSkreech> manish: if you would like OO.o3 by default then change your path to /opt/openoffice.org3/program:$PATH
[21:05] <manish> will i have to use terminal always or just this time
[21:05] <DaSkreech> HappySmileMan: They are coming Just kinda strange timing
[21:05] <manish> how do i do that
[21:05] <DaSkreech> And I don't think that anyone volunteered to do the packages themselves
[21:06] <DaSkreech> _2: Can you help him with his path ? I have to run
[21:07] <manish> _2 can you help me please its just the tail left ... the lion has crossed
[21:07] <_2> manish system wide path settings can be set in  /etc/profile  using a line like: export PATH="/opt/openoffice.org3/program:$PATH"     or the same line in the users ~/.profile  for a single user setup
[21:08] <DaSkreech> Good he's awake :)
[21:08] <DaSkreech> !path
[21:08]  * DaSkreech kicks the bot
[21:08] <manish> :)
[21:08] <manish> can you explaing tht in step by step manner please
[21:09] <acer4920_> hello word
[21:09] <_2> manish you can edit the file /etc/profile with  kdesudo kate /etc/profile    or the users ~/.profile  with any editor.
[21:09] <manish> m a bit weak in understanding techinialcal as of now
[21:09] <manish> i think so ... please wait
[21:10] <manish> yes
[21:10] <manish> so what do i do in that
[21:10] <_2> manish system wide path settings can be set in  /etc/profile  using a line like: export PATH="/opt/openoffice.org3/program:$PATH"     or the same line in the users ~/.profile  for a single user setup.
[21:11] <DaSkreech> manish: alt+f2 -> kate ~/.profile
[21:11] <manish> there is only like 10 14 lines of code in ti
[21:11] <DaSkreech> at the bottom put the line PATH="/opt/openoffice.org3/program:$PATH"
[21:11] <_2> manish yep.   add line    export PATH="/opt/openoffice.org3/program:$PATH"
[21:11] <DaSkreech> dang
[21:11] <manish> i have opened  the file in gedit
[21:11] <DaSkreech> Export before it
[21:11] <DaSkreech> manish: cool
[21:11] <manish> to the end of the doc
[21:11] <DaSkreech> save then then next time you login you will have OO.o3 everywhre!!!
[21:11] <DaSkreech> .o0(In theory)
[21:12] <manish> so i added  export PATH="/opt/openoffice.org3/program:$PATH" at the endof the doc
[21:12] <manish> now what
[21:12] <manish> thts all do i save teh file...
[21:12] <DaSkreech> manish: save
[21:12] <manish> ?/
[21:12] <DaSkreech> you are done
[21:12] <_2> save; exit; logout; login
[21:13] <manish> what was that export you were specifically mentioning
[21:13] <manish> i have added just this line :  export PATH="/opt/openoffice.org3/program:$PATH"
[21:13] <_2> save; exit; logout; login
[21:13] <manish> is that fine ... do i save it sure....?
[21:13] <manish> k
[21:13] <cuznt> after getting my audigy sound card to work, will the default location still be the case?  [ /dev/dsp ] and if not... how do i find its location please...
[21:14] <manish> ok after loggin in what do i do
[21:15] <HappySmileMan> cuznt: Should be the same, I've never heard of a sound card being anything other than /dev/dsp
[21:15] <HappySmileMan> Unless maybe you have more than one sound card
[21:16] <cuznt> i do
[21:16] <cuznt> the mobo
[21:16] <cuznt> and the audigy
[21:16] <HappySmileMan> Oh then not sure, sorry
[21:16] <cuznt> s'ok
[21:16] <_2> cuznt /dev/dsp should be a symlink to dsp0  and that is most likely the device you want but it can be /dev/dsp1 or higher depending on your hardware
[21:16] <manish> so i am loggin out ... if there issomething wrong i will come back bother ... please dont mind
[21:17] <cuznt> right on _2 thanks
[21:17] <cuznt> is there a command to find out?
[21:17] <paolo> hi. I don't hear the audio anymore... I tried all with kmix.... but i can't restore it
[21:18] <_2> cuznt you can output white noise (or any sound file handy) to the device, like this; cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp1   # that will let you test things.  ctrl+C to end it.
[21:19] <_2> cuznt if you just want to see what is where     aplay --list    should work too
[21:20] <_2> err   --list-devices    sorry
[21:23] <hp-geek> Hi Everyone.
[21:24]  * _2 runs; cat /dev/urandom > /proc/kcore # to see how stable linux really is!
[21:30] <squid0> hi there. how do I stop the panel from displaying tool-tips? they're pretty irritating
[21:31] <cuznt> ambiguoud
[21:32] <cuznt> aplay: option `--list' is ambiguous
[21:32] <_2> already corrected. <_2> err   --list-devices    sorry
[21:34] <manish> _2 still when i clicj on OO only OO2.4 opens uo ... y is OO 3.0 not opening
[21:34] <manish> please help
[21:34] <manish> DaSkreech u there
[21:35] <manish> _2  u thr...?
[21:35] <_2> manish the menu itom probably contains full path to the application,  you can edit the menu itom
[21:35] <cuznt> card 0: CA0106 [CA0106], device 0: ca0106 [CA0106]
[21:36] <_2> manish what happens if you use   alt+f2  type in:writter  ?
[21:36] <manish> hw
[21:37] <_2> sorry   oowriter   isn't it...
[21:37] <manish> It says could not open location
[21:37] <_2> oowriter
[21:37] <manish> ya it opens 2.4
[21:38] <manish> not 3.0
[21:38] <_2> hmmm   open a konsole
[21:38] <manish> done
[21:38] <_2> type echo $PATH
[21:39] <manish> sorry this is the op
[21:40] <manish> wht does this mean
[21:40] <manish> _2
[21:40] <manish> wht does that mean and what do i do nexr
[21:40] <manish> next
[21:40] <_2> show me what it said
[21:40] <manish> i already showesd you
[21:41] <_2> ?
[21:41] <_2> nope.
[21:41] <manish> see the orange text above
[21:41] <_2> nope
[21:41] <_2> only you see it
[21:41] <manish> can you see it now
[21:41] <_2> prepend a char of some kind
[21:41] <_2> space should work
[21:41] <manish> "/opt/openoffice.org3/program:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games"
[21:41] <manish> now??
[21:41] <_2> there you go
[21:41] <zigovr3> hi all, for some reason, the installer for kubuntu 8.10 doesn't detect my primary disk, only the USB disk that served to boot the installer
[21:41] <manish> ok
[21:42] <manish> so whats next
[21:42] <zigovr3> fdisk -l /dev/sda show partitions on my main disks in a console, but the installer doesn't detect it itself ...
[21:42] <_2> manish ls -ld /opt/openoffice.org3/program
[21:42] <_2> show me what that says
[21:42] <manish>  ls -ld /opt/openoffice.org3/program
[21:43] <manish> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2008-11-30 02:27 /opt/openoffice.org3/program
[21:43] <_2> ok....
[21:43] <_2> in that same konsole type; oowriter
[21:44] <_2> zigovr3 not listed in the disks tab at the top right
[21:44] <_2> ?
[21:44] <_2> zigovr3 s/tab/drop down menu/
[21:44] <manish> 2,4
[21:45] <manish> _2 its 2.4 again
[21:45] <_2> manish hmmm   one more.    /opt/openoffice.org3/program/oowriter*
[21:45] <_2> see what that gives you ?
[21:46] <cyberponix> I recently switched motherboards so I could go with AMD insted od Intell, the mother board has ATA slots in it so I went to plucg my old laptop HDD in and can not get it to register.... any ideas?
[21:46] <zigovr3> _2: not listed in the installer, when you define where to install the new distribution
[21:46] <manish> along with that *
[21:47] <cyberponix> when doing the install its there just can not wright to it...
[21:47] <zigovr3> right after you select your language and keyboard
[21:47] <manish> nosuch file or directory
[21:48] <cyberponix> I had the same distro installed on it when it was in my laptop the drive is fine just and not read nor wright...
[21:48] <cyberponix> right
[21:50] <cyberponix> I know dolphin sucks so I use konquerer still nothing.. is there a way to unlock said hdd using term?
[21:50] <manish> _2 u thr
[21:50] <Agent_bob> yes manish
[21:50] <Agent_bob> what did the command give you ?
[21:50] <eamon> any know how to get lamp server installed
[21:50] <manish> it says no such file or directory
[21:50] <cyberponix> right
[21:51] <Agent_bob> manish ok that's why it's using the old version.    you could pastebin the output of; ls /opt/openoffice.org3/program/
[21:51] <Agent_bob> !pastebin
[21:52] <Larson> guys, I've having issues with kdenetworkmanager using 100+mb ram...I've asked on #kde and it seems to be a kubuntu issue. Known?
[21:53] <manish> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/78150/
[21:54] <_2> manish try alt+f2 type in: soffice
[21:54] <manish> this time i too understand what the problem is
[21:54] <manish> but dont know how to solve it
[21:55] <_2> manish soffice give you what you want ?
[21:55]  * serenity wants kde4.2b1 packages
[21:56] <_2> serenity make them ?
[21:56] <manish> ya
[21:56] <manish> but how do i link this to my icons in the menu
[21:56] <serenity> _2: packaging? forget it. l10n is my part ;)
[21:57] <_2> manish just a sec.    in the konsole what does; which ooo-wrapper # say to you ?
[21:57] <manish> do i need to type that
[21:57] <manish> in the konsol
[21:57] <_2> or copy and paste
[21:58] <_2>  which ooo-wrapper
[21:58] <manish> which ooo-wrapper #
[21:58] <manish> this is what i typed
[21:58] <_2> yes and it says ?
[21:59] <manish> nothing
[22:00] <_2> ok. you might symlink that.   not sure how kde4 handles it's menu...   you could just add a link manually to your desktop/taskbar/menu/where_ever
[22:01] <manish> how
[22:01] <_2> right click > creat new launcher > /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice
[22:02] <manish> i use gnome
[22:02] <_2> then why aren't you asking in the gnome channel ?
[22:02] <_2> #ubuntu
[22:03] <manish> k will do that ... i was asking here coz i use gnome on kubuntu
[22:03] <_2> manish ask them how to make a menu itom with that target "/opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice"
[22:04] <_2> manish no.  if it's gnome it's ubuntu  if it's kde it's kubuntu
[22:05] <manish> i have kubuntu and then somehow i installed gnome over it now i have both but i prefer gnome
[22:05] <_2> *buntu == *buntu == *buntu    it's all one distro, just has different installation disks to make it easier for newbez to install different desktop setups.
[22:06] <_2> the channels are desktop specific to keep it easier for one group to support one desktop
[22:07] <kabunta> hello world !
[22:07] <_2> which i don't actually support a desktop, just the base system.   i hang out here cause i like the channel better than the ultra busy #ubuntu
[22:07] <manish> ok
[22:08] <kabunta> is anyone know how to install eclipse ganymede with KDE look ?
[22:08] <manish> nice to meet and share things with you
[22:08] <manish> have a nice time
[22:08] <richard_> can anyone help with mapping partitions that are in raid 1?
[22:10] <_2> !raid | richard_ this page might help, i'm not sure tho.
[22:11] <richard_> thanks much - i'll check it out
[22:11] <manish> Hey _2 prob again
[22:11] <manish> oo is ctashing again and again
[22:11] <manish> it says it want to recove some untitled file and then after recovery crashes again .... ne idea
[22:12] <_2> manish try not letting it recover it
[22:12]  * _2 just says no.
[22:12] <manish> just did that
[22:12] <_2> same crash ?
[22:12] <manish> i think it is working
[22:13] <_2> k
[22:13] <manish> wait will try it out for some time
[22:13] <manish> and then only conclude
[22:13] <manish> ctasn
[22:13] <cyberponix> what command line would I use to to a system scan for hdd's?
[22:13] <manish> crash
[22:13] <_2> kabunta i'm not seeing anything on "eclipse"
[22:13] <manish> again i opened a new doc and it crashed again
[22:14] <_2> cyberponix sudo fdisk -l
[22:14] <_2> cyberponix or  cat /proc/partitions
[22:14] <manish> dont know what to do ... thinking to see it later ..... good night
[22:14] <_2> manish good night.
[22:15] <cyberponix> any idea why sdb is useable when sda is not?
[22:16] <cyberponix> sorry sdb, sdb1, sdb2, sdb5 all usable
[22:16] <_2> cyberponix unplug/plug of usb devices will +1 the device
[22:16] <cyberponix> no usb devices plugged in...
[22:16] <cyberponix> I have a "normal" hdd and the unusable is a SATA
[22:16] <_2> cyberponix then i would suspect that the disk is set to slave
[22:17] <_2> wait. "the unusable is a SATA"   ummm  module not inserted for support ?
[22:17] <cyberponix> I'll b honest here I have never attempted to put a SATA into a desktop before
[22:18] <cyberponix> how do I change it from slave?
[22:18] <paolo> hi. I can't hear sounds anymore... an error has occoured with the audio, some days ago, and now I dunno how to restore the situation....
[22:19] <cyberponix> _2 how do I know if the module is inserted or not?
[22:19] <_2> cyberponix if it's "cable slect" you plug it in the other connector on the cable, else you change the jumpers on the device
[22:20] <_2> cyberponix lsmod is the command to list modules
[22:20] <_2> inserted modules that is
[22:20] <paolo> the audio input is ok... but the output has some errors
[22:22] <_2> . /etc/bash_completion ;modprobe something-plus-the-tab-key  # is a way to list modules    or you could do a; find /lib/modules/`uname` -type f | less # and view all modules
[22:23] <_2> sata_mv       sata_qstor    sata_sis      sata_uli    sata_nv       sata_sil      sata_svw      sata_via     sata_promise  sata_sil24    sata_sx4      sata_vsc
[22:23] <_2> are the    sata modules i have avalable here.
[22:23] <cyberponix> When I attempted to do a fresh install on the SATA HDD no other HDD plugged in it goes all the way through to the detecting file systems then says can not go any further
[22:24] <cyberponix> what jumpers should I be looking at?
[22:24] <cyberponix> on the HHD or the motherboard
[22:24] <_2> cyberponix what error is it reporting when it balks ?
[22:24] <_2> cyberponix on the hdd
[22:25] <cyberponix> there is no jumper sleave on the HDD and only four jumpers....
[22:26] <cyberponix> it says Icannot wright to HDD
[22:26] <_2> i have to take the shotgun for a walk.   be back in an hour or so.
[22:27] <_2> someone pick up cyberponix's issue !
[22:33] <antoranz> Hi guys!
[22:33] <antoranz> Look.... some keys (the arrows, for example) don't work on X, but they do work on the VTs
[22:34] <antoranz> also altgr
[22:34] <antoranz> it behaves like <intro>
[22:35] <tahir> !java
[22:36] <antoranz> as a matter of fact, if you are on dapper, why don't you upgrade? :-D
[22:37] <sd32> what is the name of the third party nvidia driver software?
[22:37] <tahir> !mp3
[22:41] <kurumin> ok
[22:48] <ubuntu__> hi all
[22:53] <u_boss> I can not install 8.04.... I get to partitioning and it fails.... help please
[22:56] <u_boss> when it fails it says "The creation of swap space in partition #5 of SCSI@ (0,0,0)(sda) failed"
[22:56] <u_boss> @=2
[23:06] <Mathman> hi. anyone happen to know how to override /etc/kde4rc? nobody in #kde or #kde-devel seems to know at the moment...
[23:07] <HappySmileMan> amarok
[23:07] <HappySmileMan> woops... Meant to ALT+F2
[23:24] <bfrog> where is libdvdcss?
[23:24] <bfrog> apt-cache search doesn't find it
[23:24] <bfrog> this is for 8.10
[23:26] <Lex79> libdvdcss2 is in medibuntu
[23:26] <bfrog> why isn't it just in regular ubuntu
[23:27] <bfrog> makes me want to switch to a distro that doesn't try to enforce shitty drm policies
[23:32] <ijii> helo
[23:35] <ijii> hh
[23:38] <marek_> hi what is the metapackage name for kde4?
[23:40] <JontheEchidna> marek_: in hardy or intrepid?
[23:46] <marek_> JontheEchidna jaunty, but i already found
[23:46] <JontheEchidna> hmm, you're even more crazier than me
[23:46] <JontheEchidna> *more crazy
[23:55] <roland> hi
[23:55] <_2> !hi
[23:55] <onslaught> hi
[23:55] <roland> how can you install flash in konqueror
[23:57] <_2> !flash