[00:00] if a bug in a build depend that causes a FTBFS is fixed, how is a retry for building triggered? (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/lazarus/0.9.26-2) [00:01] just by cron? new upload? manual triggering? [00:03] Elbrus: MOTUs or core-devs can retry builds, depending on the component [00:04] hello Elbrus [00:04] Elbrus: when fpc is built and published everywhere I will retry that [00:06] james_w: ok, thanks [00:06] Laney: thanks for the explanation, I expected so much. [00:07] james_w: could you also retry building winff after lazarus is built? [00:08] Elbrus: sure [00:10] james_w: thanks, that's my first packaging effort in debian. Would really like to see it work in Ubuntu (although I will propose some Ubuntu related changes after it builds) [00:39] hi i was going to merge drscheme but the package is a dummy package (my terminology) all it does is install plt-scheme [00:41] serialorder: ok, do you have a more specific question? [00:41] i was thinking that rather than merging this it would make more sense to modify plt-scheme and add a Provides: drscheme rather than actually keeping this package [00:42] hi serialorder. a dummy packages is slightly different to a Provides: so it might be that way for a reason [00:43] serialorder: I think you'd want a transitional bin:drscheme package generated from src:plt-scheme that provides an upgrade path [00:43] One is that it is possible to Build-Depend on a dummy package. The other is that it allows you to transition users from one to the other [00:43] as crimsun says though, it doesn't have to be a whole separate source packge [00:43] diverging from Debian on this might be more effort than it is worth though [00:45] ok [00:45] thought I would ask since literally all this package has is a debian directory [00:55] would someone mind taking a look at this bug to verify if what I suggest makes sense or not [00:55] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/imagemagick/+bug/301618 [00:55] Ubuntu bug 301618 in imagemagick "imagemagick merged from Debian experimental has broken packaging" [High,Triaged] [00:55] it probably doesn't though =( [00:57] serialorder: I think that'd be one aspect of it, but also every package the build-dep on the old -dev package would have to be changed to build-dep on the appropriate new package. [00:58] So I'd say it makes sense, but is not complete. [00:58] so there is no way to make it so that it wouldn't break the other packages [00:59] that makes sense [00:59] man that sucks [01:19] anyone know how to make my software copy itself to a directory on deb install? [01:27] what a long, long, painful, and excruciating task I am undertaking :) [01:27] making an initial attempt at documenting debian/copyright if using bundled media stack from HandBrake [01:40] Hi. Has someone time to review dvdstyler (http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=dvdstyler)? Thanks in advance! [02:14] DktrKranz: I see you just uploaded uiflite. [02:14] DktrKranz: I hadn't noticed that until after I gave it a review. [02:14] ScottK-laptop, yes. just now [02:15] DktrKranz: Since the packaging is under the GPL, debian/copyright needs to point to GPL. [02:15] I was about to comment to that effect when I saw your comment. [02:16] DktrKranz: Would you please fix that and upload and -0ubuntu2? [02:16] I added it before upload [02:16] DktrKranz: Excellent. [02:16] Nevermind then. [02:16] * DktrKranz checks [02:18] * ScottK-laptop looks at iptux [02:19] ScottK-laptop, no. I noticed it but I forgot to actually put it. I'll reupload it with the fixed debian/copyright (no need to do -0ubuntu2, IIRC it's legal to have two NEW packages with the same versioning, given that the former is rejected properly) [02:21] DktrKranz: Great. I've seen the wrong one get rejected before. I think it's safer to make it ubuntu2, but up to you. [02:21] "HandBrake also includes the ffmpeg project. It is under a metric fsckton of licenses. Go RTFM to figure out the authors and licensing terms" [02:21] ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H [02:24] If a program doesn't link to libfoo, does libfoo-dev need to be in build-depends? [02:27] ryanakca: it shouldn't [02:28] james_w: *nod*, thanks [02:30] Hobbsee, StevenK, I just reuploaded uiflite 2.2.1-0ubuntu1 to Jaunty NEW, mind rejecting the older one? Thanks. === fabrice_sp_ is now known as fabrice_sp === woody86_ is now known as woody86 [03:37] has anyone seen http://translate.sourceforge.net/doc/api/ packaged anywhere? [04:10] Hello, i'm moving http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=mbpurple to cdbs [04:11] but the build always failed because the options from makefile.mk is not complete [04:52] ok, I found the solution. please review my package on http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=mbpurple [05:39] ha VICTORY, pwned the handbrake auto-fetcher. [05:39] at the same time, I award myself the nastiest repack of the year award. [06:14] (gone) [06:19] Hobbsee: Really? === RAOF_ is now known as RAOF [06:19] RAOF: well, the one to be rejected is [06:20] RAOF: I was looking for you, actually. How can I tell gnome-do that i want to connect to a machine via ssh console by default, not open it's root by ssh? [06:27] Um... [06:28] So, I presume Do is offering to open it's root by SSH because you've got a GNOME bookmark/mount set up. [06:28] Do you have the SSH plugin loaded for Do, and have a .ssh/config file which defines the host? [06:28] Hobbsee: ^^ [06:29] RAOF: it's in .ssh/config [06:29] and the latter, yes [06:29] help review http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=iptux, a new version uploaded(fix copyright information), thanks. [06:32] Hobbsee: Then after selecting the host in the first pane, you want to tab over and select "Connect with SSH" in the second pane. [06:32] After doing that a number of times, the relevance engine will pick it up and it'll become the default action. [06:32] ah [06:32] for each ssh host, or? [06:32] For all SSH hosts, yes. [06:33] The relevance engine isn't quite cool enough to do per-item action relevance at this point, I think. [06:33] no, as in, do i need to do it a number of times for each ssh host, or it's a global count? [06:33] ah, right. [06:34] hurrah! [06:34] That fixed it, thanks! [06:34] Do becomes much more useful once you know how to use it. [06:35] We obviously need to make it easier to discover _how_ to use it :) [06:37] well, i thought it might have been something like that. [06:37] as that's how the t9 dictionary handles [06:37] but i'm surethat wasn't 10 times [06:38] and because repeatedly switching it every once in a while wasn't seeming to do it - i presume it needs to be in the same session? [06:38] It _should_ be remembered across sessions. [06:39] * Hobbsee thought she would have used gnome-do more than 10 times for ssh, connecting to it [06:39] * Hobbsee hasn't managed to trigger it, without consciously launching 10 versions of it [06:41] I find it won't remember "Connect with SSH" as the default [06:42] I always have to go "ant" "ssh" [06:42] *shudder* how beautiful. [06:42] Possibly because you also "open" stuff a lot? The relevance isn't per-item, and the SSH hosts I think are one of the worst-case behaviours. [06:43] RAOF: i don't, though. [06:43] did you know when you statically link something against ffmpeg, faac, faad, libmp4v2, mpeg4ip, and dca, that the resulting binary is 9.3MB? [06:43] the more you know! [06:43] help review http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=iptux, a new version uploaded(fix copyright information), thanks. [06:43] RAOF: But I don't [06:43] RAOF: I use Do to run things and connect via ssh [06:45] Then maybe there's a bug somewhere. You're right, I need to "off" "ssh", too. [07:04] help review http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=iptux, a new version uploaded(fix copyright information), thanks. [07:05] lidaobing: You're probably pinging a little bit too frequently; it's unlikely to help. [07:05] woah. do you *really* need to try every 5 lines? [07:06] RAOF, 20 minutes one time, maybe too frequently, I will waiting for more time from now. [07:06] Hi. A merge request with debdiff should be in Confirmed or New when subscribing u-s-u ? [07:07] (it's for bug #285674) [07:07] Launchpad bug 285674 in hugin "[Merge request]Please merge Hugin 0.7.0-1 from Debian Experimental" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/285674 [07:07] fabrice_sp: either, afaik. [07:07] Hobbsee: ok. And sync request also? [07:07] fabrice_sp: confirmed. [07:07] fabrice_sp: requestsync --help is quite useful, FYI [07:08] ok. Could I update the wiki page with that information? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess [07:08] Hobbsee: thanks. Will check! :-) [07:08] Right. Mono 2.0 transition for GNOME Do + Plugins done. Let's see if I can't wrangle a dkms package out of nouveau's kernel modules. [07:08] hmmm. it does the sponsorship automatically now. Cool! [07:10] fabrice_sp: er, I lie [07:10] fabrice_sp: and that requestsync needs an update, on that page. [07:11] fabrice_sp: not sure on merges, i don't think i'ts specified, but if you need sponsorship for hte sync, it gets set as new (as the sponsor confirms it, then the archive person closes it) [07:12] Hobbsee: ok. So the best thing is to let it as new. I was just wondering if having a debdiff would needs a special status or not. [07:13] fabrice_sp: Not that I know of. [07:13] fabrice_sp: a debdiff counts as a patch, so tick "this is a patch" button [07:13] but apart from that, no, afaik. [07:14] Hobbsee: ok. Will check I marked it as patch then. Thank you! [07:14] fabrice_sp: you're welcome! [08:00] hi everyone [08:05] gralco: hi [08:06] Hey gralco, slytherin. [08:07] iulian: hi [08:14] Well, that's pretty easy. [08:15] Urgh. Almost. [08:19] I (almost) win! [09:07] good meuning [11:55] hi [11:56] hi [12:08] please review http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=mbpurple === nenolod is now known as moogle [12:26] willwill: typo in debian/control. it should read "it only supports" instead of "it only support" [12:26] willwill: does the debhelper level need to be so higH? (7) [12:26] laga: thank you, I copied that from upstream [12:27] laga: I don't use debhelper on my latest upload [12:27] willwill: is debian/compat needed then? [12:28] i'm not sure about that, i'm not a MOTU [12:28] i wonder if you need to have the real names of the upstream authors. i don't know what the policy says about that [12:30] laga: I also have dpkg-genchanges: failure: cannot read files list file: No such file or directory error in pbuilder [12:31] whs: and you're telling me this because...? [12:31] laga: I need help to fix tht [12:33] whs: it's better to ask everyone in the room, not just a specific person. you should also provide more information, eg what package you're trying to build and more log files (in a pastebin) [12:34] sorry === whs is now known as willwill [12:35] my pbuilder log: http://pastebin.com/m62c06897 [12:48] How do I apply all patches of a package but without building it, so that I can create another patch? [12:50] Pupeno: Depends on the patch system in use [12:50] Ok, I have reuploaded: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=mbpurple [12:54] willwill: debian/rules patch seems to work. [12:54] on http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/ near the dsss package there si a package(+) icon, what does it mean? [12:55] if i click it shows revu error [12:55] http://paste.ubuntu.com/78028/ [12:56] willwill: your rules file looks wrong / weird? See https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/basic-cdbs.html ? [12:56] Hobbsee: upstream does not use autotools [12:57] ah [12:57] willwill: Just because they don't use autotools doesn't make CDBS unsuitable [12:58] StevenK: my latest upload uses makefile class from cdbs [13:03] help review http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=iptux, a new version uploaded(fix copyright information), thanks. [13:05] hi, i've two binaries that shares the sahttp://www.google.com/search?q=http%3A%2F%2Fgdcgnu.sourceforge.net%2FSOURCES%2F&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8me manpage. should i do a link [13:05] oops [13:05] sorr [13:05] sooory === gouki_ is now known as gouki [13:41] how can i check is my gnupg key is enabled to upload on revu? [13:42] *if my [13:45] goshawk: Is your key on Launchpad? [13:50] yes [13:50] nhandler: i upload on ppa [13:50] and it works [13:50] but i uploaded on revu [13:51] yesterday [13:51] goshawk: Have you logged into REVU yet? [13:51] and i don't see the update of my package [13:51] no [13:51] wait [13:51] i'll login [13:51] The GPG keys are synced when you login. So if you haven't logged in yet, REVU will NOT have your key, and will reject uploads from you [13:52] nhandler: yep, i dind't login [13:52] from when i changed the key [13:52] :) [13:53] yes it's there now [13:53] thanks nhandler [13:53] :) [13:53] You're welcome goshawk [13:59] Hello there. When I try to SVN update with RapidSVN, I am asked for my RSA key password. How can I ommit this? [14:00] Actually, I am asked for my login password. I text input box says: Enter your login password to unlocl default keyring. The default keyring was not unlocked at login so you must unlock it now. [14:01] And it waits for my login password. I don't want to do that every time. How can I disable it? [14:01] * A text input box [14:01] * to unlock the [14:04] So, any help, please? [14:19] DktrKranz : i've update my package that you had previously advocated....i correct the .desktop file ;) ( http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=sqliteman ) [14:24] Test for demo purpose at ubuntu-party: bug 303404 [14:24] Launchpad bug 303404 in rhythmbox "last.fm: selecting multiple songs produces a download error" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/303404 [14:25] ubottu: thank you [14:25] You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-) === Knightlust is now known as Igorot [14:42] i've a binary that uses the same manpage of another binary [14:42] how can i make an ln -s using cdbs? [14:43] ln -s $(DESTDIR)/usr/share/man/man1/drebuild.1 drerun.1 [14:43] if i do something like this during install:: [14:43] it gives error [14:43] cuz /usr/share/man doesn't exist yet [14:44] it might work better in binary-post-install/package:: [14:45] but $(DESTDIR)/usr/ probably doesn't exist [14:45] um no, it will, sorry [14:46] goshawk: im not an expert but.... what if you do ln -s $(DESTDIR)/usr/share/man/man1/drebuild.1 $(DESDIR)/usr/share/man/man1/drerun.1 ? [14:46] ok [14:46] eMerzh: i chrooted on it [14:47] /usr/share does not exist [14:47] james_w: following your words [14:47] did you switch to the other target? [15:08] Hi. Could anyone please review new app request? Bug #281982 [15:08] Launchpad bug 281982 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] ipwatchd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/281982 [15:10] jariq: your best bet is to submit the package to REVU. There are weekly reviewing sessions, and if you go on IRC that day, you are likely to succeed [15:10] !revu [15:10] REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU [15:11] actually i am looking for someone who could be able to create package [15:11] jariq: Ah :-) [15:11] that could be submited to revu [15:12] jariq: don't you want to get your feet wet? [15:13] i tried to create package by myself but it was very time consuming [15:13] jariq: in practice, the only way is to do it yourself. [15:13] jariq: just come here and ask [15:13] jariq: it _is_ time consuming [15:14] but not for anyone experienced right? [15:14] jariq: the trick is to become experienced [15:14] jariq: to be honest, to get help, you have to show that you are willing to do work yourself [15:15] i wrote that app :) [15:15] jariq: cool [15:15] i did my job [15:15] jariq: not quite :-) [15:15] jariq: what is your problem [15:15] and i am looking for someone who could create a package [15:15] with packaging I mean :-) [15:16] jariq: is it the tools? [15:16] i tried few times [15:16] jariq: the debian/ dir? [15:16] but as i wrote earlier it is very time consuming [15:16] jariq: It will take you an hour or so [15:17] i spent about six hours without any effect [15:17] jariq: what did you do? [15:17] read manual :) [15:17] jariq: Ah, ok. So now you are ready to do the work [15:18] jariq: basically, you need a debian/ dir with 5 files in it [15:18] i do not feel that way [15:18] jariq: Let me give you a hint: that is not the right attitude here [15:18] ok go on [15:19] jariq: you have a tar ball with your app ? [15:19] yes [15:19] jariq: unpack it somewhere in a work directory [15:20] got it [15:20] jariq: you have a Makefile or autotools system? [15:20] Makefile [15:21] jariq: Fine. cd to the top level of your app [15:21] jariq: mkdir debian [15:22] got it [15:22] jariq: cd debian [15:23] jariq: this is where you need to work to create the package [15:23] ok [15:23] jariq: first we make the rules file [15:24] jariq: 2 secs [15:24] is there any example file or should i create empty one? [15:24] jariq: let's create an empty one [15:26] jariq: first line of rules: [15:26] #!/usr/bin/make -f [15:26] 2nd line: [15:27] include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk [15:27] 3rd and last: [15:27] include /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/makefile.mk [15:28] jariq: got that? [15:29] yes [15:29] jariq: what is the copyright of your package? [15:29] but file /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/makefile.mk does not exist on my hdd [15:29] i installed debhelper package [15:30] is there anything else i need to install ? [15:30] jariq: ah yes. apt-get install cdbs [15:30] debhelper [15:30] ok got it [15:30] license is gnu gpl v2 [15:30] jariq: what is the copyright of your package? [15:33] ah ok good [15:33] jariq: now we make the copyright file, in debian/ still [15:34] 1st line [15:34] Format-Specification: http://wiki.debian.org/Proposals/CopyrightFormat [15:34] 2nd line [15:35] Upstream-Name: IPwatchD [15:35] 3rd line [15:35] Upstream-Maintainer: (you) [15:36] 4: [15:36] Upstream-Source: (url of where to get your tarball) [15:36] got that? [15:36] yes [15:36] that was the header section of debian/copyright [15:37] ok [15:37] jariq: now comes as many Files: sections as is necessary to fully describe the copyright of all files. I think this might be sufficient: [15:37] Files: * [15:38] Copyright: Copyright 2008, (your-name) [15:38] License: GPL [15:39] should i put blank line between header and this text ? [15:39] Yeah why not [15:39] jariq: so, you should have 3 lines for the Files: section [15:39] if someone has free time, can please have a look at: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=dsss [15:40] ? [15:40] thanks [15:40] so anything else is needed in this file? [15:41] jariq: after the License: GPL line, you need the short GPL clause, see here: http://pastebin.com/f798b947d [15:41] jariq: and that finishes the copyright line [15:43] jariq: got that? [15:43] yeas [15:43] jariq: ready to go on? [15:43] yeap [15:43] next file: compat. [15:44] jariq: echo 6 > compat [15:44] that's it [15:44] jariq: 2 files to go [15:44] goshawk: please don't update the chagelog every upload [15:45] goshawk: it should ONLY state the launchpad "needs-packaging"-bug and the patches you do (if present) [15:45] jariq: now we will create the changelog file [15:45] handschuh: sorry i didn't know [15:45] jariq: which is used to collect the history of your package [15:46] jariq: it has a strict format [15:46] ok [15:46] 1st line: [15:46] handschuh: ok i'll do it [15:46] goshawk: no problem, as you have patches, make sure you explain them in the changelog [15:46] yes i've 2 patches [15:46] so i should add them on changelog [15:46] jariq: ah, what is the version of ipwatchip [15:47] 1.1.1 [15:47] ok [15:47] first line [15:47] goshawk: yes. also take a look at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/report.py/legal?upid=4145 [15:47] ipwatchd (1.1.1-0buntu1) jaunty; urgency=low [15:48] jariq: next line empty [15:48] ok [15:48] jariq: 3rd line [15:49] * First packaged (LP: #281982) [15:49] handschuh: opening link [15:49] (substitute with a space :-) [15:49] did it [15:49] jariq: next line empty [15:49] jariq: last line: [15:50] -- Jariq Lastname [15:50] handschuh: Digital Mars and Gregor Richards [15:50] handschuh: they are in debian/copyright if i'm not wrong [15:50] jariq: followed by the output of date -R [15:50] s/1.1.1-0buntu1/1.1.1-0ubuntu1/g [15:51] I need help with something.... My package needs the user to give it the mysql root password. But I don't know how to make my package ask for that during install. Can someone help? [15:51] goshawk: yes but there are some files without licensing and the licensing is not recognized [15:51] handschuh: what should i do? [15:51] goshawk: you might have to talk to upstream to let this fix [15:52] jariq: got that? [15:52] yes [15:52] jariq: great. Last file, control [15:52] first line: [15:53] Source: ipwatchd [15:53] handschuh: are you refferring to some files like: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/report.py/legal?upid=4145 ? [15:53] jariq: [15:53] 2nd line [15:53] wait [15:53] sorru [15:53] Section: utils [15:53] jariq: 3rd [15:54] goshawk: yes [15:54] Priority: optional [15:54] handschuh: /var/revu/revu1-incoming/dsss-0811291639/dsss-0.78/rebuild/nprocs.h: *No copyright* UNKNOWN [15:54] jariq: 4th [15:54] ? [15:54] jariq: Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers [15:55] jariq: 5th line [15:55] goshawk: some files have no valid license information an this has bo be fixed by upstream [15:55] jariq: XSBC-Original-Maintainer: Jariq Lastname [15:56] jariq: 6th line [15:56] handschuh: ok what else to fix? [15:56] Standards-Version: 3.8.0 [15:56] jariq: next line empty [15:56] jariq: OK that was the header of debian/control [15:56] got it [15:57] goshawk: debian/copyright [15:57] jariq: after that, there are N sections each describing a binary package. I think you just need 1 [15:57] goshawk: change the "ist was downloaded from" url to http://svn.dsource.org/projects/dsss/downloads [15:57] mok0, and where should i specify dependencies? [15:58] handschuh: ok [15:58] jariq: that goes in the header, after a Build-Depends: tag [15:58] jariq: I skipped that for now [15:58] goshawk: debian/control: under the source-section, add a "Homepage" field [15:58] ok no problem [15:58] jariq: but in fact you need to put: [15:59] Build-Depends: cdbs, debhelper (>= 6) [15:59] jariq: and probably more, but that will be an exercise for you :-) [15:59] goshawk: you have some additional files outside of the debian directory which is not allowed [16:00] handschuh: i don't understand, can you give me an example? [16:00]