[02:47] <SteveH> I'm trying to troubleshoot a new system's not playing any sound.  Anyone know what steps I should take?
[02:57] <Claud-SLC> hello hello
[02:58] <Claud-SLC> new setup of mythbuntu 8.10 and need help getting PVR 250 setup
[03:03] <toorima> SteveH: check that the card is detected, what kind of sound setup do you have, optical to amp or just regular jack to speakers etc
[03:05] <toorima> Claud-SLC: the pvr 250 is supported ootb so should just work
[03:06] <Claud-SLC> yeah.... I thot it would be...
[03:06] <Claud-SLC> right now sound is just headphones 'til I can move it closer to big screen
[03:12] <Claud-SLC> not sure how to get the program guide to update
[03:13] <Claud-SLC> selecting TV doesn't do anything
[03:14] <Claud-SLC> i think i messed up the samba shares
[03:14] <Claud-SLC> did the recommended update and no more shares show up
[03:29] <SteveH> toorima: I believe that the sound is on the MB.  I've beena unoid/linoid for years, but never really played with sound.
[03:30] <SteveH> (Sorry for the delay ... we're in the middle of turkey left-overs)
[03:31] <toorima> SteveH: had to much turkey yesterday, can't even think about turkey today... hehe
[03:32] <toorima> SteveH: do u get sound outside of mythtv?
[03:37] <toorima> SteveH: if not, could be its muted, check alsamixer
[04:05] <SteveH> toorima:  I asked about the sound device to look for in the dmesg, but I lost network connectivity ...
[04:05] <SteveH> OK, OK, so I dislodged the enet cable
[04:09] <fuxxy_> SteveH, did you break the little retention tab off your net cables again?
[04:10] <SteveH> fuxxy:  Aren't you spozed to take that tab off, to show that they've been used?
[04:10] <fuxxy_> SteveH, !
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[04:11] <SteveH> I thot it was like the shrink-wrap on a bottle of medicine. {grin}
[04:11] <fuxxy_> I need to disable KDE use flag, too much KDE junk on this sytem that I never use.
[04:11] <fuxxy_> oh, sorry wrong channel :)
[04:12] <SteveH> Anyone know how to troubleshoot sound on a brand new system?
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[04:31] <fuxxy_> hmm, decent mobo for mythtv HTPC - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131229
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[04:36] <SteveH> fuxxy:  NOW you tell me!
[04:40] <fuxxy_> This one's better, albeit at twice the price - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131348
[04:48] <senorzorro> hello, has anyone had issues with ubuntu installer today? since some patches came through, i'm getting "no UPnP backend found"? anyone else having this issue?
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[07:01] <Chaorain> I have a Nvidia 7900GS graphics card. Is there any special drivers I need? Do I install the Nvidia 177 drivers or Nvidis 175 or the generic
[07:52] <pretender>  does any one know if there is a button that you can hit in mythtv when watching tv to start recording. like you would with a vcr and remote
[08:09] <pretender> can anyone advise how i can record from the front end (Watch live TV) is there a keyboard shortcut to start recording when watching live tv
[08:13] <toorima> pretender: try R on the keyboard
[08:14] <pretender> just tried it thanks
[08:14] <toorima> np
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[11:46] <Finswimmer> hello, i wanted to get my mythbackend allow frontonds via LAN. therefore i switched bind 127.0.0.1 to 192.168.1.5. but during boot my mysql will not start as there is no NIC running. Knetworkmanager gets my local IP when entering X.
[11:47] <Finswimmer> i am really new to mythbuntu, but using gentoo since years, so what is the best to do? i would suggest to replace knetworkmanager with something that gets the IP before mysql gets started?
[11:47] <Finswimmer> but how?
[11:48] <Finswimmer> writing an now file in /etc/rc.2/ ?
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[16:07] <evaryont_>  I have a Dish Network sateillite box and I'm trying to get it to work with my Hauppage HVR 1600. The card has 2 coaxial inputs: Digital and Analog. Which do I plug in the coaxial cable coming from the sateillite box?
[16:09] <evaryont_> Also what channel frequency table should I use? us-bcast us-cable us-cable-hrc or us-cable-irc ?
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[16:28] <heyheyhey> hey all
[16:28] <heyheyhey> i have a wierd problem i can not record a set program
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[17:21] <heyheyhey> what would cause me not to beable to schedule a recording?
[17:46] <dashcloud> evaryont_: I would plug the coaxial cable into the analog side- it doesn't matter what frequency you use- us-bcast is fine
[17:58] <fuxxy_> evaryont_, my brother's got a Dish Network DVR, it's got LOTS of jacks to connect devices with. Does yours have firewire or USB?
[17:58] <fuxxy_> evaryont_, it will work if you just use the analog RF out, but you won't get the best signal possible. If the box supports it, it would be best to use firewire
[17:59] <Crewsr3> I set up my mythbox with an LCD.  How do I get the image onto my tv, and can I run both my LCD and TV?
[18:06] <fuxxy_> Crewsr3, there's a lot of variables with that. I would suggest reading up on you video card options, specifically the Xorg options pertaining to xinerama
[18:07] <fuxxy_> Crewsr3, if you've got an HDTV with VGA, DVI, or HDMI inputs, you'd be best to buy a cable to plug your machine in using one of those.
[18:26] <Crewsr3> fuxxy_: sorry, I had a run for a second.  I have a SDTV with 480i and I'm running s-video out of my nvidia card.  On the same card I'm running this LCD.  I looked around in the nvidia sever settings and could not find anything that mentioned s-video out
[18:28] <fuxxy_> Crewsr3, on my FX5200 I found that if I boot the system with only the S-video cable attached to the tv, it JustWorked(tm)
[18:28] <fuxxy_> but I never could get it to dual display with tvout and VGA
[18:28] <foxbuntu> fuxxy_, you need to setup twinview
[18:29] <Crewsr3> foxbuntu: what is twinview?
[18:29] <foxbuntu> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/dual-monitors-with-nvidia.html
[18:35] <Crewsr3> foxbuntu: can you send me a copy of your xorg.conf settings for a reverence
[18:35] <foxbuntu> Crewsr3, I dont use twinview
[18:38] <Crewsr3> Thanks everyone,
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[18:56] <evaryont_> for my Dish Network + MythTV setup in Mythbuntu - where is the lirc script (if any exists) to change the channel?
[18:59] <dashcloud> here's a link to a lirc script for Dish Network: http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/DISHNetworkLIRCConfiguration
[18:59] <foxbuntu> evaryont_, you will need to grab the directv.pl script and use that
[19:00] <foxbuntu> or that
[19:00] <foxbuntu> :)
[19:02] <evaryont_> dashcloud: thanks
[19:03] <evaryont_> hm
[19:04] <evaryont_> that lirc conf defines a lot of dishN remotes - dish, dish1, dish2, etc - where N is for "remotes using remote code X" How do I know which remote code my DISH box/remote is using?
[19:05] <foxbuntu> evaryont_, either guess or google your model of STB from dish
[19:06] <evaryont_> lots of guessing :) STB = ?
[19:07] <dashcloud> it looks like they just go from dish1, and increase with each box you have
[19:08] <evaryont_> dashcloud: uh, I still don't understand :/ I have 2 DISH boxes - the one I'm trying to configure w/ MythTV is the first one, the so called "Master" box
[19:09] <evaryont_> oh STB is "set top box" :)
[19:11] <dashcloud> in the comments at the top of the script, it says it starts with dish1- which is the default for people with only 1 receiver
[19:11] <dashcloud> so I would imagine it goes up from there (not having Dish, I can't tell you)
[19:12] <evaryont_> alright, thanks for the help :)
[19:32] <Claud-SLC> how do you get the program guide to update?
[19:33] <Claud-SLC> I've set up an account with Shedules Direct and entered the username and password in Myth
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[19:38] <dashcloud> did you create a video source in myth-backend setup?
[19:40] <dashcloud> you'll need to create a video source, and connect it to an input (it's one of the menu options- input connections)
[19:45] <Claud-SLC> yeah - I called it ScheduleDirect or something like that
[19:45] <Claud-SLC> how do I tell it to update?
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[20:12] <dashcloud> Claud-SLC: sorry bout that, after you typed in your user namer & password, did you press the fetch lineup button?
[20:43] <Claud-SLC> yeahm but I dont think anything is updating.... :(
[20:44] <Claud-SLC> I just tried again
[20:44] <Claud-SLC> I'll be back to try it again
[20:44] <dashcloud> if you've put in the correct username & password (and the box above it is set to schedulesdirect (internal) ), you'll see the name of your first lineup
[21:57] <evaryont_> what is the best way to test the lirc remote?
[21:57] <laga> evaryont_: irw
[21:57] <evaryont_> hm
[21:57] <evaryont_> "connect: no such file or directory"  - lirc isn't running?
[21:58] <uomogrande> Using Mythbuntu 8.10, I have a V4L capture device added, I need Myth to set it to channel 3 when it starts up , and then use an external changer script to change channels, I believe I have this setup right, however its not working, does anyone have experience with using the `External Changer Script` options ? Been browsing webpages for answers but have yet to find any
[21:59] <evaryont_> if so, how do I start lirc?
[22:02] <evaryont_> I have the A415-HPG-A remote from Hauppage (shipped with the HVR-1600) - what modules do I need to load?
[22:03] <evaryont_> /etc/init.d/lirc start   returns "Unable to load LIRC kernel modules"
[22:05] <foxbuntu> evaryont_, then you have an improper lirc setup
[22:06] <foxbuntu> uomogrande, which external changer script?
[22:06] <uomogrande> well atm ... 'mythchanger' .. using it to change channels via firewire to a SA4250HDC
[22:06] <foxbuntu> ah
[22:07] <foxbuntu> I dont know anything about that one
[22:08] <uomogrande> fromt he other myth channel, basically was just told to get rid of the 'default channel' field in myth-setup , and instead just set the channel to 3 in the external changer script in a line before i call mythchanger, so just write a small bash frontend to mythchanger that also calls something else to change the capture card channel
[22:08] <evaryont_> foxbuntu: what is the proper setup? :)
[22:09] <evaryont_> :/
[22:10] <foxbuntu> evaryont_, sorry about that...issues with X
[22:10] <foxbuntu> evaryont_, what hardware are you using?
[22:11] <evaryont_> foxbuntu: heh, np. Which piece of hw are you asking about? :/
[22:12] <foxbuntu> your remote receiver/remote
[22:13] <uomogrande> OHHHHH while i'm here one more question but its not really MythTV specific, ...  I got a DVI to HDMI adapter cable to go from my video card to my TV , however, it seems the TV always sets the resolution slightly smaller than what the computer thinks it is, by that i mean , there is a good amount of my screen hidden on all sides,      Does anyone know what is needed to do to setup the resolution to work right with the DVI -> 
[22:14] <evaryont_> Remote: A415-HPG-A
[22:14] <evaryont_> IR w/blaster: HAU-F6021146-5M
[22:14] <laga> uomogrande: that's called "overscan" and it might be possible to turn it off on the TV..
[22:14] <evaryont_> foxbuntu: info -^
[22:15] <laga> uomogrande: and, uh, please don't cross-post
[22:15] <uomogrande> I looked around and couldnt find any options that really seemed to do it on the TV .. unfortunatly ... if my TV doesnt have a setting in it to fix it, can i fix it on the computer/OS side?
[22:15] <uomogrande> k
[22:16] <foxbuntu> evaryont_, I dont know models, can you point me to a link of that what that remote is, or where it came from?
[22:16] <evaryont_> it comes w/ the Hauppage HVR-1600
[22:17] <evaryont_> uh
[22:17] <evaryont_> http://registration.hauppauge.com/webstore/images/wintv-hvr-1600_big.jpg
[22:17] <evaryont_> that's a pic of the card + remote
[22:18] <foxbuntu> ah yes. an mce remote
[22:18] <evaryont_> really? mce?
[22:18] <foxbuntu> yea
[22:18] <evaryont_> huh. didn't know that.
[22:19] <foxbuntu> very commonnnnnnnnnnn
[22:19] <foxbuntu> ugh
[22:19] <foxbuntu> anyways
[22:19] <foxbuntu> 3 ways to fix your issue
[22:19] <foxbuntu> 1) Mythbuntu-Control-Centre
[22:20] <foxbuntu> Select Infrared Devices > Change remote to Windows MCE Remote (new version) > Apply
[22:20] <foxbuntu> Restart MythTV
[22:20] <foxbuntu> that should be the easiest
[22:20] <evaryont_> alright
[22:20] <evaryont_> I'll try that first
[22:22] <evaryont_> changed it, didn't help - still got the unable to load LIRC kernel modules
[22:23] <evaryont_> hrm
[22:23] <evaryont_> rebooting the computer - that may or may not help. will see :)
[22:27] <evaryont_> nope
[22:27] <evaryont_> didn't help :(
[22:27] <foxbuntu> evaryont_, hmm
[22:27] <foxbuntu> pastebin the output of: lsusb
[22:27] <foxbuntu> !pastebin | evaryont_
[22:27] <Zinn> evaryont_: when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[22:28] <evaryont_> alright
[22:28] <evaryont_> foxbuntu: well, why lsusb?
[22:29] <evaryont_> foxbuntu: also, 4 busess w/ ID 0000:0000
[22:29] <evaryont_> no extra info
[22:29] <foxbuntu> evaryont_, where does the ir receiver plug in?
[22:29] <evaryont_> into the card it self, there is a dedicated plug
[22:30] <foxbuntu> for a receiver?
[22:30] <foxbuntu> or a blaster?
[22:30] <evaryont_> both - it's a 2-in-one
[22:30] <evaryont_> it splits right at the connector
[22:32] <foxbuntu> oh
[22:32] <foxbuntu> thats a different module then
[22:33] <evaryont_> fun
[22:33] <evaryont_> which?
[22:34] <foxbuntu> Im looking
[22:34] <evaryont_> thanks
[22:34] <foxbuntu> its a newer card, but this is the reason lirc fails
[22:35] <foxbuntu> go back into MCC and select Hauppage PVR150 TV Card
[22:38] <evaryont_> under Infrared Devices > "Enable a Remote Control" ?
[22:39] <evaryont_> if so
[22:39] <evaryont_> I don't see it
[22:40] <evaryont_> I did see a generic "Hauppauge TV Card"
[22:40] <evaryont_> but yet I still get an error :(
[22:41] <evaryont_> same - "Unable to load LIRC kernel modules"
[22:41] <foxbuntu> yeah
[22:42] <foxbuntu> try this: sudo modprobe lirc_pvr150
[22:43] <evaryont_> Error doing that - "Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)"
[22:43] <foxbuntu> hmm
[22:44] <evaryont_> dmesg reports: "lirc_pvr150: disagrees about vesion of symbol ivttv_reset_ir_gpio"
[22:44] <evaryont_> 3 times
[22:44] <evaryont_> ah, and "Unknown symbol ivtv_reset_ir_gpio"
[22:44] <foxbuntu> I just dont know with that IR receiver...I would poke around in the forums/on google for those errors and that card to figure out what module/driver you should be using
[22:46] <foxbuntu> I can help you change the module by hand if you can determine which one it is
[22:47] <evaryont_> hmm
[22:47] <evaryont_> I figured more info (yay dmesg poking)
[22:47] <evaryont_> apparently it's a phiips eHome USB IR Transciever
[22:47] <evaryont_> Philips*
[22:48] <evaryont_> but it uses a 1/16" connector that plugs into the back of the card
[22:49] <evaryont_> http://www.hauppauge.com/pics/hvr1600_connector-b.gif  <- diagram
[22:50] <foxbuntu> ok
[22:50] <foxbuntu> try finding it with lspci
[22:53] <evaryont_> not listed :/
[22:53] <evaryont_> I see the Conexant MPEG2 encoder
[22:53] <foxbuntu> is the tuner listed?
[22:53] <foxbuntu> ok
[23:23] <NineTeen67Comet> I've got a question about 8.04.1; when installing it asks which software to install. What is Mythbuntu additional rolls? That box is just going to be a front end (MySQL and the media files are on a central computer w/backend) ..
[23:25] <NineTeen67Comet> 8.10 wouldn't install (shaky hardware)