/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/11/29/#ubuntu-ops.txt

Flanneljussi01: Im not sure if thats garbage, or indonesian00:31
jussi01about 1.5 seconds too late...00:31
jussi01Flannel: still, either way00:31
FlannelI imagine it was garbage.  Too many consonants together.00:32
jussi01yeah, looked garbage too mewwwww00:32
FlannelThe first two didn't, and by that point, I had already gone through the trouble of looking up his IP00:33
* Flannel needs to write an irssi plugin for that.00:33
jussi01yeah, thatd be a good start...00:35
FlannelAnyone awake with -ot?  fsck*3 looks to be on the road to trouble01:05
* PriceChild takes a look in01:06
LjLFlannel: uh, three weeks?01:07
LjLyou meant four weeks certainly01:07
FlannelOf course I did01:07
PriceChildFlannel: i think he's an #archlinux person01:11
PriceChildjudging by his claims in pm :P01:11
PriceChildHe's not in -offtopic though01:11
FlannelWho?01:12
PriceChildthe above01:12
FlannelHmmm, hes still in -offtopic though01:12
PriceChildi meant archlinux-offtopic01:13
FlannelAh01:13
FlannelThat makes more sense01:13
LjLPriceChild: and i *know* he is an archlinux person01:15
PriceChildso he is01:16
LjLhow about #archlinux <FSCK_FSCK_FSCK> yo lets troll ubuntu-offtopic    [is in #ubuntu]01:17
FlannelThat'd do it.01:17
Flannellooks like he's starting in #u and -ot again01:18
LjL#ubuntu-unregged: [18:36:19] --> D0net1 has joined this channel (i=den0ts@illegal.filestash.org).01:21
LjLis not in #ubuntu and i don't like the hostname01:21
* jussi01 waves03:04
* mneptok surfs03:20
jussi01mneptok: that was a "dad joke"03:23
jussi01:/03:23
mneptokjussi01: seeing how i'm old enough to be father to many of this channel's regulars, it's prolly appropriate ;)03:29
jussi01mneptok: oh shush you...03:30
mneptokdon't you shush me, young man!03:30
* mneptok sends jussi01 home with a note03:31
jussi01LOL03:31
jussi01mneptok: Im already at home with a sick note...03:31
mneptokhttp://www.funny2.com/schoolexcuses.htm03:38
mneptok"Please excuse my son. He will be out next week slaughtering goats for his manhood ritual. Thank you!03:39
mneptokit's like they can see my childhood ....03:39
mneptok"Please forgive Clarence for being absent from school the past few days. He was home sick from an operation. He had penis trouble and had to be serpent-sized."03:40
jdongwhat an ugly setup.03:47
jdongad-hoc + (WEP/WPA) = fail on broadcom....03:48
elkbuntujussi01, what did you do?03:48
jdongso... I have this god-awful iptables setup that puts clients on a iptables whitelist if they authenticate on a webform on the default gateway03:48
jdongI doubt this is very secure at all03:48
jussi01elkbuntu: I ruptured my anterior cruciate ligament, playing park soccer04:30
elkbuntujussi01, eep!04:38
elkbuntuthat's going to be a really fun trip home04:38
jussi01elkbuntu: yep, ouchies...04:38
ardchoilleI have an incident to report05:17
ardchoillehttp://ardchoille.pastebin.us/1954705:18
ardchoillesomeone giving out malicious commands05:18
ardchoillein #ubuntu05:18
ardchoilleMore info about this user05:21
ardchoillehttp://ardchoille.pastebin.us/1955905:21
* elkbuntu clicks and waits for her computer to react.05:24
ardchoilleThank you bazhang 05:25
elkbuntustupid mouse keys on this laptop are b0rking05:25
ardchoilleThanks ops, I'm glad you're here :)05:28
fogobogomay i know why i got banned?05:30
bazhangfogobogo, do you really need to ask?05:31
fogobogobazhang: yup. did nothing at all. 05:31
fogobogobazhang: no bullshitting in #ubuntu from my side05:32
fogobogoin fact. even helped out Kingsomething05:32
bazhangfogobogo, were you unaware of what juice949 was doing?05:34
bazhangaka FSCK_FSCK_FSCK05:35
fogobogoall i know hes been asking someone to ls some folders05:35
fogobogooh FSCK05:35
bazhangfogobogo, so you know nothing about him or that?05:35
fogobogoyeah. i know what he did. 05:35
fogobogojust dont know what that has to do with me05:36
bazhangfogobogo, and you in no way participated in that? egging him on, for example?05:36
fogobogoi didnt tell him to do that. in fact i joined after that happened05:36
bazhangfogobogo, or just a few days ago with eihm?05:37
fogobogowhat was with eihm? i dont think he did anything like it.05:37
fogobogoagain. whats my part there?05:38
bazhangfogobogo, you seem to suggest you are just an innocent bystander in all this05:38
bazhangfogobogo, but you have a history of participating in these actions, and I believe you know exactly what this FSCK_FSCK_FSCK was up to05:39
fogobogoi wanna remind that im not encourage anyone to do this. i also have no idea what anyone else is doing there.05:40
bazhangfogobogo, what you are saying is just not credible.05:40
fogobogocome on. check your logs. its not like im going to say rm your boot folder or anything like it. 05:41
fogobogoi had absolutely no idea that fsck was even in the channel05:41
fogobogowhy else would ive joined after the action?05:41
elkbuntuto see the aftermath.05:42
bazhangfogobogo, you were in the channel at the time.05:43
bazhangfogobogo, anyone else involved?05:43
fogobogosorry no. FSCK played his own game05:43
bazhangfogobogo, sorry, just dont believe what you are saying.05:44
bazhangfogobogo, you have a history of these hijinks in #ubuntu, and likely a willing participant in FSCK_FSCK_FSCK's actions today05:44
bazhangfogobogo, its not funny to screw up people's systems.05:45
fogobogobazhang: i agree. but at the time i joined the damage has already been made!05:45
fogobogobazhang: and i dont screw ppls systems.05:46
bazhangfogobogo, what about today? and a couple of days ago with eihm? that is not screwing people's systems up?05:46
bazhangsuggesting those dangerous commands and then hoping others follow?05:46
fogobogono. that was between eimh and me. why would anyone else do this05:47
bazhangfogobogo, you seem to be suggesting you are some innocent in all this.05:47
bazhangfogobogo, and that is CLEARLY not the case.05:47
fogobogoi dont oppose that. but i didnt tell anyone there to type hdparm --make-bad-sector and press enter.05:48
fogobogothat was between me and eimh. and i know eimh05:49
bazhangfogobogo, you know those commands of a few days ago do serious damage, and you saw what juice949 was doing05:49
bazhangfogobogo, you knew nothing about what juice949 was doing?05:50
fogobogoin fact i didnt see it. i just know it.05:50
bazhangfogobogo, how did you know it.05:50
fogobogoas i already said i wasnt there at that time05:50
bazhangfogobogo, how did you know it.05:50
fogobogowait a sec05:50
fogobogosomeone posted it in the channel05:51
bazhangwhich channel fogobogo 05:51
fogobogo#archlinux-offtopic. 05:51
bazhangfogobogo, so you knew about this? and what was your response?05:51
fogobogoto join #ubuntu05:52
bazhangfogobogo, why dont we have another chat about this tomorrow.05:53
bazhangsay 24 hours from now.05:53
fogobogobazhang: btw i wonder why you didnt already do a /whois and besides PriceChild is a permanent guest in #archlinux-offtopic05:53
bazhangand you can tell me more about arch offtopic05:53
bazhangfogobogo, see you tomorrow.05:54
fogobogobazhang: np. lets dont steal anymore time from each other05:54
bazhanghave to head out to work now.05:55
bazhangiarwain1 in #ubuntu09:24
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)13:55
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)13:55
elkbuntubazhang, what are you doing? how do you extract 'legal' from that?14:03
LjLelkbuntu: err, possibly it's legal because the site hosting it is the people who made it...?14:09
LjLelkbuntu, imho you're exaggerating. how often have we requested independent proof that something is legal? how many of the programs packaged in our repositories have such a guarantee, aside from what the "author"'s site says, assuming they're the author?14:11
bazhanghttp://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/ocremix.ars/214:11
bazhanglegal.14:11
elkbuntuLjL, at the glance i could afford it (i'm kind of trying to write a talk i'm scheduled to give on thursday) that site looked totally bogus.14:16
LjLthey could put a license, granted14:17
LjLbut if everytime someone links to something we asked for proof of legality...14:18
elkbuntuLjL, it was how he did it. he was desperate for attention, then when nobody responded, he did it anyway.14:19
elkbuntuit just screamed fishy14:20
LjLthat's true14:20
bazhangI checked the site first elkbuntu 14:20
bazhangand it is legal.14:21
elkbuntubazhang, as i said, i am in the middle of trying to compose a talk.14:21
elkbuntuand firefox is being painful14:21
bazhangok14:22
MyrttiI don't want to sound rude or anything, but I think using a computer should have an idiot filter.14:51
Myrttiyou should be able to prove you can read and understand what you've read before granting access to a computer.14:52
Myrttilike, srsly14:52
elkbuntuMyrtti, likewise for The Internet14:53
bazhang-ot?14:53
elkbuntuactually no. they can use computers all they want. implement the filter at the modem level.14:54
Myrttitrue14:54
LjL-read-topic and -proxy-users work quite well14:54
MyrttiQ: Today I got new kernal update, How to delete old from my boot screen list?14:54
LjLpity they only filter out a tiny percentage of people14:54
Myrttimy A: uninstall the old one with the package manager.14:55
MyrttiQ2: I don't know about their package names? Give some key words to search their packages.14:55
bazhanghehe14:55
bazhangerm..kernel?14:55
MyrttiHOW can he know he has a new kernel update if he doesn't know the name of the package?14:56
elkbuntugrub screen at boot?14:56
LjLyesterday someone was trying to compile some driver, and was convinced that "linux-image" was the kernel source14:57
Myrttishouldn't that be a hint about the package name? or am I totally like, missing the point?14:57
LjLsomeone else replied that linux-image "for some reason doesn't have a src package", and that he should switch distro if he wanted to do serious kernel work14:57
Myrttilol14:57
elkbuntuthey're quite welcome to.15:03
elkbuntuthat way we dont have to be the 'bad guys'.15:04
kbrooksUm, I'd like to report someone in a LoCo team who spammed a channel15:36
LjLi'm listening15:36
kbrooksnot #ubuntu, but as you ops have connections to the community council, maybe you can deal with the team15:36
kbrooksthey spammed ##windows with "<bisnews> Open your mide , try to use ubuntu [ Open Source ]  | #ubuntu-th <- you can talk eaglish question"15:37
LjLand of course, i'm not in ##windows at the moment. never in the right channels15:37
kbrooksi copied and pasted verbatim15:38
kbrooksPlease deal with it - thank you.15:38
LjLi'll try, but wait here a minute please15:38
PriceChildLjL: He did it 5 times.15:38
PriceChildkbrooks: does he go by any other name in your knowledge?15:39
kbrooksNo15:39
LjLthat's a weird loco... i can't find a launchpad address for it15:40
LjLeven though it's listed in the approved teams15:40
PriceChildapproved?15:41
PriceChildcheck you put it in the 'approved' teams.15:41
PriceChild*who15:41
LjLkbrooks: do you have any evidence that this "bisnews" is actually part of the team?15:42
kbrooksLjL, It was a gut feeling.15:42
LjLok, let's keep that in mind then, because it wouldn't be the first time someone "pretends" to be advertizing a channel just in order to damage it15:43
kbrooksLjL, the tone of your message sounds accusatory.15:44
PriceChildLjL: whois the user, then who the host.15:44
LjLPriceChild: not online15:44
LjLand i don't have it in /whowas15:44
kbrooksI'll look15:44
kbrooks* bisnews (i=76ac3f5e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-15858f9fa6454a55) has joined ##windows 15:44
kbrooksOK, clinched it15:44
PriceChildi still see him online?15:44
LjLPriceChild: oh, my fault. i was /whowas'ing all the time thinking i was /whois'ing15:45
PriceChild:)15:45
kbrooksMay I tell you the channel he is in now, if revelant?15:46
LjLkbrooks: sure15:46
kbrooksHe left #ubuntu-th and joined #efficiency08 15:46
LjLkbrooks: i'm not accusatory, just need to keep possibilities in mind. the fact that the team members don't have an IRC nick listed on launchpad (since they don't have launchpad addresses listed) doesn't help determining anything.15:46
LjLPriceChild: what should i be expecting when whoising the host? my whois doesn't seem to find it in the database15:47
kbrookser 15:47
PriceChildLjL: who'ing15:47
kbrooksi get his host info15:47
LjLi don't know15:48
LjLNo match for "118.172.63.94.ADSL.DYNAMIC.TOTBB.NET".15:48
LjL>>> Last update of whois database: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 10:46:17 EST <<<15:48
PriceChildLjL: I don't know whose that is.15:48
kbrooksThere iis a match15:48
kbrooksin APNIC15:49
kbrooksthat IP is registered to a Bangkok ISP15:49
kbrooksso th means thailand 15:49
PriceChildLjL: the host matches with that bot which is 'welcoming' you to both channel. I'll have a word with bisnews when he returns.15:50
PriceChild*channels15:50
LjLPriceChild: wait...15:50
LjL[16:50:21] [Whois] wB3 is n=wB3@ppp-124-120-81-111.revip2.asianet.co.th15:50
LjL[16:46:40] [Whois] bisnews is i=76ac3f5e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-15858f9fa6454a55 (118.172.63.94.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net)15:50
kbrooksth means thailand 15:50
kbrooksso it logically matcthes 15:50
LjLyes i get that part, but they're different hosts15:51
PriceChildbah i got mixed up somewhere *wonders how he managed that*15:51
LjLcertainly the fact that the bot is in both places is suspicious but15:51
LjLah, got it15:51
LjLns info wb3 says account "willwillbot2"15:52
LjLwillwill is +V in the #ubuntu-th access list15:52
kbrooksw83's IP correlates to the same ISP15:53
PriceChildI'll have a word anyway.15:54
* PriceChild wonders what w3b is doing.15:54
kbrooksPriceChild, helping someone with apache 15:54
LjLPriceChild, in the wiki's revision history, the addition of thai appears to be too old to show up...15:54
LjLi can only see revisions starting from 2008-06-08 22:56:1915:55
LjLbut there is an approval date listed15:56
LjL!meeting15:56
ubottuTeam meetings are held in #ubuntu-meeting - See « /msg ubottu logs » for transcripts.15:56
LjLyet, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/09/03/%23ubuntu-meeting.html has no matches for "thai"15:58
LjLlet's try 2007 then15:58
LjLok, Thai was approved16:00
LjLalthough Shuttleworth was also a bit dubious on the lack of a proper loco team page on launchpad - but they had a translators' team on it, so it was deemed enough16:00
LjLPriceChild: ##windows ops are telling me that Ubuntu-related spam happens pretty often. not a good thing.16:12
LjLnot from that team, though16:12
PriceChildnot surprised16:13
LjLdoesn't have to be surprising to be a bad thing16:13
LjL[17:15:15] [Notice] -ChanServ- Information on #Efficiency08:16:15
LjL[17:15:16] [Notice] -ChanServ- Founder    : DekRNR16:15
LjL[17:16:11] [Notice] -NickServ- Information on DekRNR (account DekRNR):16:16
LjL[17:16:11] [Notice] -NickServ- Last addr  : i=76ac590a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4622243f55e9e78e16:16
LjL[17:07:55] [Whois] bisnews is i=76ac3f5e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-15858f9fa6454a55 (118.172.63.94.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net)16:16
LjLthe ip addresses of bisnews and dekrnr look suspiciously alike to me16:16
LjLstill, no direct connection with the #ubuntu-th ops, and i don't know who dekrnr is16:17
PriceChild76ac590a = 118.172.89.1016:19
PriceChildMeh, he spammed, that's good enough for me & I'll have a word.16:20
LjLPriceChild: it's good enough to have a word with *him*, but not with the team as long as there is no discernible connection between him and the team16:21
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, j0hnnyX said: !ubottu Johnny is dumb16:25
Gary@login16:51
ubottuThe operation succeeded.16:51
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Myrttijussi01: your domain contacts are still to Oulu, btw.18:53
jussi01Myrtti: ahh, thanks, Ill change that when I get a min.19:20
Myrttialso your eniro information19:21
jussi01heh, that too... I keep forgeting it doesnt get updated by changing stuff at maistraati... ;)19:23
ubottuIn ubottu, oskar- said: !resettheme is To reset the gnome theme, enter the following commands into a shell: (1) "gconftool-2 --unset /desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_theme"  (2) "gconftool-2 --unset /apps/metacity/general/theme"  (3) "gconftool-2 --unset /desktop/gnome/interface/icon_theme"19:23
ubottuLF|Irssi called the ops in #ubuntu (hudsonfire)19:45
ubottuFlare183 called the ops in #ubuntu (hudsonfire)19:45
jussi01@bansearch cens0red19:49
ubottuNo matches found for cens0red!i=uzer@they.deported.us in any channel19:49
ubottuFlare183 called the ops in #ubuntu (bruenig)19:51
LjL[21:44:10] --> PornHub has joined this channel (n=contact@d66-222-244-181.abhsia.telus.net).20:44
LjL[21:44:31] *** PornHub is now known as Pr0nhub.20:44
LjLthe fellow had just joined #gentoo and been automatically banned, might be worth watching20:45
* LjL points and laughs at ikonia's 1337 skillz20:55
* ikonia is l33720:55
LjLchannel is quite full of people who won't let you say anything without randomly highlighting you with their random question today, huh20:56
ikonialooks like it20:57
bazhangdont click that link21:44
bazhanghas some kind of mad flash exploit in it.21:46
LjL!staff | user "billy1234667" is spamming channels apparently with a mad flash exploit - #ubuntu, #django for now21:46
ubottuuser "billy1234667" is spamming channels apparently with a mad flash exploit - #ubuntu, #django for now: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, Vorian or PriceChild, I could  use a bit of your time :)21:46
ikoniamrwes: thanks for joining22:47
mrweshrmm22:47
mrwesyes?22:48
mrwesis this where I get scolded?22:48
ikoniabasiclly I just wanted to ask you to keep the random noise down stop trying to argue things 22:48
ikoniayour not getting scolded22:48
mrwesnods22:48
ikoniaI'm asking you nicley, making random noise and being pedantic about a few things just makes noise and detracts from the support channels main function, support22:48
bazhangnice22:49
ikoniawell, if he wants to be like that, fine. Thats a warning22:49
bazhangbeen warned three times22:50
ikoniaI was trying to just be polite, 22:50
ikoniawell, thats his "final" warning for me22:50
bazhangclearly he is in 'taunt' mode22:50
ikonianot for long if he continues22:50
Flannelubottu: tell drog about away23:41
jussi01Flannel: lol23:42
* Flannel wins!23:42
jussi01heheheh23:42

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