[00:31] <Flannel> jussi01: Im not sure if thats garbage, or indonesian
[00:31] <jussi01> about 1.5 seconds too late...
[00:31] <jussi01> Flannel: still, either way
[00:32] <Flannel> I imagine it was garbage.  Too many consonants together.
[00:32] <jussi01> yeah, looked garbage too mewwwww
[00:33] <Flannel> The first two didn't, and by that point, I had already gone through the trouble of looking up his IP
[00:33]  * Flannel needs to write an irssi plugin for that.
[00:35] <jussi01> yeah, thatd be a good start...
[01:05] <Flannel> Anyone awake with -ot?  fsck*3 looks to be on the road to trouble
[01:06]  * PriceChild takes a look in
[01:07] <LjL> Flannel: uh, three weeks?
[01:07] <LjL> you meant four weeks certainly
[01:07] <Flannel> Of course I did
[01:11] <PriceChild> Flannel: i think he's an #archlinux person
[01:11] <PriceChild> judging by his claims in pm :P
[01:11] <PriceChild> He's not in -offtopic though
[01:12] <Flannel> Who?
[01:12] <PriceChild> the above
[01:12] <Flannel> Hmmm, hes still in -offtopic though
[01:13] <PriceChild> i meant archlinux-offtopic
[01:13] <Flannel> Ah
[01:13] <Flannel> That makes more sense
[01:15] <LjL> PriceChild: and i *know* he is an archlinux person
[01:16] <PriceChild> so he is
[01:17] <LjL> how about #archlinux <FSCK_FSCK_FSCK> yo lets troll ubuntu-offtopic    [is in #ubuntu]
[01:17] <Flannel> That'd do it.
[01:18] <Flannel> looks like he's starting in #u and -ot again
[01:21] <LjL> #ubuntu-unregged: [18:36:19] --> D0net1 has joined this channel (i=den0ts@illegal.filestash.org).
[01:21] <LjL> is not in #ubuntu and i don't like the hostname
[03:04]  * jussi01 waves
[03:20]  * mneptok surfs
[03:23] <jussi01> mneptok: that was a "dad joke"
[03:23] <jussi01> :/
[03:29] <mneptok> jussi01: seeing how i'm old enough to be father to many of this channel's regulars, it's prolly appropriate ;)
[03:30] <jussi01> mneptok: oh shush you...
[03:30] <mneptok> don't you shush me, young man!
[03:31]  * mneptok sends jussi01 home with a note
[03:31] <jussi01> LOL
[03:31] <jussi01> mneptok: Im already at home with a sick note...
[03:38] <mneptok> http://www.funny2.com/schoolexcuses.htm
[03:39] <mneptok> "Please excuse my son. He will be out next week slaughtering goats for his manhood ritual. Thank you!
[03:39] <mneptok> it's like they can see my childhood ....
[03:40] <mneptok> "Please forgive Clarence for being absent from school the past few days. He was home sick from an operation. He had penis trouble and had to be serpent-sized."
[03:47] <jdong> what an ugly setup.
[03:48] <jdong> ad-hoc + (WEP/WPA) = fail on broadcom....
[03:48] <elkbuntu> jussi01, what did you do?
[03:48] <jdong> so... I have this god-awful iptables setup that puts clients on a iptables whitelist if they authenticate on a webform on the default gateway
[03:48] <jdong> I doubt this is very secure at all
[04:30] <jussi01> elkbuntu: I ruptured my anterior cruciate ligament, playing park soccer
[04:38] <elkbuntu> jussi01, eep!
[04:38] <elkbuntu> that's going to be a really fun trip home
[04:38] <jussi01> elkbuntu: yep, ouchies...
[05:17] <ardchoille> I have an incident to report
[05:18] <ardchoille> http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/19547
[05:18] <ardchoille> someone giving out malicious commands
[05:18] <ardchoille> in #ubuntu
[05:21] <ardchoille> More info about this user
[05:21] <ardchoille> http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/19559
[05:24]  * elkbuntu clicks and waits for her computer to react.
[05:25] <ardchoille> Thank you bazhang 
[05:25] <elkbuntu> stupid mouse keys on this laptop are b0rking
[05:28] <ardchoille> Thanks ops, I'm glad you're here :)
[05:30] <fogobogo> may i know why i got banned?
[05:31] <bazhang> fogobogo, do you really need to ask?
[05:31] <fogobogo> bazhang: yup. did nothing at all. 
[05:32] <fogobogo> bazhang: no bullshitting in #ubuntu from my side
[05:32] <fogobogo> in fact. even helped out Kingsomething
[05:34] <bazhang> fogobogo, were you unaware of what juice949 was doing?
[05:35] <bazhang> aka FSCK_FSCK_FSCK
[05:35] <fogobogo> all i know hes been asking someone to ls some folders
[05:35] <fogobogo> oh FSCK
[05:35] <bazhang> fogobogo, so you know nothing about him or that?
[05:35] <fogobogo> yeah. i know what he did. 
[05:36] <fogobogo> just dont know what that has to do with me
[05:36] <bazhang> fogobogo, and you in no way participated in that? egging him on, for example?
[05:36] <fogobogo> i didnt tell him to do that. in fact i joined after that happened
[05:37] <bazhang> fogobogo, or just a few days ago with eihm?
[05:37] <fogobogo> what was with eihm? i dont think he did anything like it.
[05:38] <fogobogo> again. whats my part there?
[05:38] <bazhang> fogobogo, you seem to suggest you are just an innocent bystander in all this
[05:39] <bazhang> fogobogo, but you have a history of participating in these actions, and I believe you know exactly what this FSCK_FSCK_FSCK was up to
[05:40] <fogobogo> i wanna remind that im not encourage anyone to do this. i also have no idea what anyone else is doing there.
[05:40] <bazhang> fogobogo, what you are saying is just not credible.
[05:41] <fogobogo> come on. check your logs. its not like im going to say rm your boot folder or anything like it. 
[05:41] <fogobogo> i had absolutely no idea that fsck was even in the channel
[05:41] <fogobogo> why else would ive joined after the action?
[05:42] <elkbuntu> to see the aftermath.
[05:43] <bazhang> fogobogo, you were in the channel at the time.
[05:43] <bazhang> fogobogo, anyone else involved?
[05:43] <fogobogo> sorry no. FSCK played his own game
[05:44] <bazhang> fogobogo, sorry, just dont believe what you are saying.
[05:44] <bazhang> fogobogo, you have a history of these hijinks in #ubuntu, and likely a willing participant in FSCK_FSCK_FSCK's actions today
[05:45] <bazhang> fogobogo, its not funny to screw up people's systems.
[05:45] <fogobogo> bazhang: i agree. but at the time i joined the damage has already been made!
[05:46] <fogobogo> bazhang: and i dont screw ppls systems.
[05:46] <bazhang> fogobogo, what about today? and a couple of days ago with eihm? that is not screwing people's systems up?
[05:46] <bazhang> suggesting those dangerous commands and then hoping others follow?
[05:47] <fogobogo> no. that was between eimh and me. why would anyone else do this
[05:47] <bazhang> fogobogo, you seem to be suggesting you are some innocent in all this.
[05:47] <bazhang> fogobogo, and that is CLEARLY not the case.
[05:48] <fogobogo> i dont oppose that. but i didnt tell anyone there to type hdparm --make-bad-sector and press enter.
[05:49] <fogobogo> that was between me and eimh. and i know eimh
[05:49] <bazhang> fogobogo, you know those commands of a few days ago do serious damage, and you saw what juice949 was doing
[05:50] <bazhang> fogobogo, you knew nothing about what juice949 was doing?
[05:50] <fogobogo> in fact i didnt see it. i just know it.
[05:50] <bazhang> fogobogo, how did you know it.
[05:50] <fogobogo> as i already said i wasnt there at that time
[05:50] <bazhang> fogobogo, how did you know it.
[05:50] <fogobogo> wait a sec
[05:51] <fogobogo> someone posted it in the channel
[05:51] <bazhang> which channel fogobogo 
[05:51] <fogobogo> #archlinux-offtopic. 
[05:51] <bazhang> fogobogo, so you knew about this? and what was your response?
[05:52] <fogobogo> to join #ubuntu
[05:53] <bazhang> fogobogo, why dont we have another chat about this tomorrow.
[05:53] <bazhang> say 24 hours from now.
[05:53] <fogobogo> bazhang: btw i wonder why you didnt already do a /whois and besides PriceChild is a permanent guest in #archlinux-offtopic
[05:53] <bazhang> and you can tell me more about arch offtopic
[05:54] <bazhang> fogobogo, see you tomorrow.
[05:54] <fogobogo> bazhang: np. lets dont steal anymore time from each other
[05:55] <bazhang> have to head out to work now.
[09:24] <bazhang> iarwain1 in #ubuntu
[14:03] <elkbuntu> bazhang, what are you doing? how do you extract 'legal' from that?
[14:09] <LjL> elkbuntu: err, possibly it's legal because the site hosting it is the people who made it...?
[14:11] <LjL> elkbuntu, imho you're exaggerating. how often have we requested independent proof that something is legal? how many of the programs packaged in our repositories have such a guarantee, aside from what the "author"'s site says, assuming they're the author?
[14:11] <bazhang> http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/ocremix.ars/2
[14:11] <bazhang> legal.
[14:16] <elkbuntu> LjL, at the glance i could afford it (i'm kind of trying to write a talk i'm scheduled to give on thursday) that site looked totally bogus.
[14:17] <LjL> they could put a license, granted
[14:18] <LjL> but if everytime someone links to something we asked for proof of legality...
[14:19] <elkbuntu> LjL, it was how he did it. he was desperate for attention, then when nobody responded, he did it anyway.
[14:20] <elkbuntu> it just screamed fishy
[14:20] <LjL> that's true
[14:20] <bazhang> I checked the site first elkbuntu 
[14:21] <bazhang> and it is legal.
[14:21] <elkbuntu> bazhang, as i said, i am in the middle of trying to compose a talk.
[14:21] <elkbuntu> and firefox is being painful
[14:22] <bazhang> ok
[14:51] <Myrtti> I don't want to sound rude or anything, but I think using a computer should have an idiot filter.
[14:52] <Myrtti> you should be able to prove you can read and understand what you've read before granting access to a computer.
[14:52] <Myrtti> like, srsly
[14:53] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, likewise for The Internet
[14:53] <bazhang> -ot?
[14:54] <elkbuntu> actually no. they can use computers all they want. implement the filter at the modem level.
[14:54] <Myrtti> true
[14:54] <LjL> -read-topic and -proxy-users work quite well
[14:54] <Myrtti> Q: Today I got new kernal update, How to delete old from my boot screen list?
[14:54] <LjL> pity they only filter out a tiny percentage of people
[14:55] <Myrtti> my A: uninstall the old one with the package manager.
[14:55] <Myrtti> Q2: I don't know about their package names? Give some key words to search their packages.
[14:55] <bazhang> hehe
[14:55] <bazhang> erm..kernel?
[14:56] <Myrtti> HOW can he know he has a new kernel update if he doesn't know the name of the package?
[14:56] <elkbuntu> grub screen at boot?
[14:57] <LjL> yesterday someone was trying to compile some driver, and was convinced that "linux-image" was the kernel source
[14:57] <Myrtti> shouldn't that be a hint about the package name? or am I totally like, missing the point?
[14:57] <LjL> someone else replied that linux-image "for some reason doesn't have a src package", and that he should switch distro if he wanted to do serious kernel work
[14:57] <Myrtti> lol
[15:03] <elkbuntu> they're quite welcome to.
[15:04] <elkbuntu> that way we dont have to be the 'bad guys'.
[15:36] <kbrooks> Um, I'd like to report someone in a LoCo team who spammed a channel
[15:36] <LjL> i'm listening
[15:36] <kbrooks> not #ubuntu, but as you ops have connections to the community council, maybe you can deal with the team
[15:37] <kbrooks> they spammed ##windows with "<bisnews> Open your mide , try to use ubuntu [ Open Source ]  | #ubuntu-th <- you can talk eaglish question"
[15:37] <LjL> and of course, i'm not in ##windows at the moment. never in the right channels
[15:38] <kbrooks> i copied and pasted verbatim
[15:38] <kbrooks> Please deal with it - thank you.
[15:38] <LjL> i'll try, but wait here a minute please
[15:38] <PriceChild> LjL: He did it 5 times.
[15:39] <PriceChild> kbrooks: does he go by any other name in your knowledge?
[15:39] <kbrooks> No
[15:40] <LjL> that's a weird loco... i can't find a launchpad address for it
[15:40] <LjL> even though it's listed in the approved teams
[15:41] <PriceChild> approved?
[15:41] <PriceChild> check you put it in the 'approved' teams.
[15:41] <PriceChild> *who
[15:42] <LjL> kbrooks: do you have any evidence that this "bisnews" is actually part of the team?
[15:42] <kbrooks> LjL, It was a gut feeling.
[15:43] <LjL> ok, let's keep that in mind then, because it wouldn't be the first time someone "pretends" to be advertizing a channel just in order to damage it
[15:44] <kbrooks> LjL, the tone of your message sounds accusatory.
[15:44] <PriceChild> LjL: whois the user, then who the host.
[15:44] <LjL> PriceChild: not online
[15:44] <LjL> and i don't have it in /whowas
[15:44] <kbrooks> I'll look
[15:44] <kbrooks> * bisnews (i=76ac3f5e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-15858f9fa6454a55) has joined ##windows 
[15:44] <kbrooks> OK, clinched it
[15:44] <PriceChild> i still see him online?
[15:45] <LjL> PriceChild: oh, my fault. i was /whowas'ing all the time thinking i was /whois'ing
[15:45] <PriceChild> :)
[15:46] <kbrooks> May I tell you the channel he is in now, if revelant?
[15:46] <LjL> kbrooks: sure
[15:46] <kbrooks> He left #ubuntu-th and joined #efficiency08 
[15:46] <LjL> kbrooks: i'm not accusatory, just need to keep possibilities in mind. the fact that the team members don't have an IRC nick listed on launchpad (since they don't have launchpad addresses listed) doesn't help determining anything.
[15:47] <LjL> PriceChild: what should i be expecting when whoising the host? my whois doesn't seem to find it in the database
[15:47] <kbrooks> er 
[15:47] <PriceChild> LjL: who'ing
[15:47] <kbrooks> i get his host info
[15:48] <LjL> i don't know
[15:48] <LjL> No match for "118.172.63.94.ADSL.DYNAMIC.TOTBB.NET".
[15:48] <LjL> >>> Last update of whois database: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 10:46:17 EST <<<
[15:48] <PriceChild> LjL: I don't know whose that is.
[15:48] <kbrooks> There iis a match
[15:49] <kbrooks> in APNIC
[15:49] <kbrooks> that IP is registered to a Bangkok ISP
[15:49] <kbrooks> so th means thailand 
[15:50] <PriceChild> LjL: the host matches with that bot which is 'welcoming' you to both channel. I'll have a word with bisnews when he returns.
[15:50] <PriceChild> *channels
[15:50] <LjL> PriceChild: wait...
[15:50] <LjL> [16:50:21] [Whois] wB3 is n=wB3@ppp-124-120-81-111.revip2.asianet.co.th
[15:50] <LjL> [16:46:40] [Whois] bisnews is i=76ac3f5e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-15858f9fa6454a55 (118.172.63.94.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net)
[15:50] <kbrooks> th means thailand 
[15:50] <kbrooks> so it logically matcthes 
[15:51] <LjL> yes i get that part, but they're different hosts
[15:51] <PriceChild> bah i got mixed up somewhere *wonders how he managed that*
[15:51] <LjL> certainly the fact that the bot is in both places is suspicious but
[15:51] <LjL> ah, got it
[15:52] <LjL> ns info wb3 says account "willwillbot2"
[15:52] <LjL> willwill is +V in the #ubuntu-th access list
[15:53] <kbrooks> w83's IP correlates to the same ISP
[15:54] <PriceChild> I'll have a word anyway.
[15:54]  * PriceChild wonders what w3b is doing.
[15:54] <kbrooks> PriceChild, helping someone with apache 
[15:54] <LjL> PriceChild, in the wiki's revision history, the addition of thai appears to be too old to show up...
[15:55] <LjL> i can only see revisions starting from 2008-06-08 22:56:19
[15:56] <LjL> but there is an approval date listed
[15:56] <LjL> !meeting
[15:58] <LjL> yet, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/09/03/%23ubuntu-meeting.html has no matches for "thai"
[15:58] <LjL> let's try 2007 then
[16:00] <LjL> ok, Thai was approved
[16:00] <LjL> although Shuttleworth was also a bit dubious on the lack of a proper loco team page on launchpad - but they had a translators' team on it, so it was deemed enough
[16:12] <LjL> PriceChild: ##windows ops are telling me that Ubuntu-related spam happens pretty often. not a good thing.
[16:12] <LjL> not from that team, though
[16:13] <PriceChild> not surprised
[16:13] <LjL> doesn't have to be surprising to be a bad thing
[16:15] <LjL> [17:15:15] [Notice] -ChanServ- Information on #Efficiency08:
[16:15] <LjL> [17:15:16] [Notice] -ChanServ- Founder    : DekRNR
[16:16] <LjL> [17:16:11] [Notice] -NickServ- Information on DekRNR (account DekRNR):
[16:16] <LjL> [17:16:11] [Notice] -NickServ- Last addr  : i=76ac590a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4622243f55e9e78e
[16:16] <LjL> [17:07:55] [Whois] bisnews is i=76ac3f5e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-15858f9fa6454a55 (118.172.63.94.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net)
[16:16] <LjL> the ip addresses of bisnews and dekrnr look suspiciously alike to me
[16:17] <LjL> still, no direct connection with the #ubuntu-th ops, and i don't know who dekrnr is
[16:19] <PriceChild> 76ac590a = 118.172.89.10
[16:20] <PriceChild> Meh, he spammed, that's good enough for me & I'll have a word.
[16:21] <LjL> PriceChild: it's good enough to have a word with *him*, but not with the team as long as there is no discernible connection between him and the team
[16:51] <Gary> @login
[16:51] <Gary> @btlogin
[18:53] <Myrtti> jussi01: your domain contacts are still to Oulu, btw.
[19:20] <jussi01> Myrtti: ahh, thanks, Ill change that when I get a min.
[19:21] <Myrtti> also your eniro information
[19:23] <jussi01> heh, that too... I keep forgeting it doesnt get updated by changing stuff at maistraati... ;)
[19:49] <jussi01> @bansearch cens0red
[20:44] <LjL> [21:44:10] --> PornHub has joined this channel (n=contact@d66-222-244-181.abhsia.telus.net).
[20:44] <LjL> [21:44:31] *** PornHub is now known as Pr0nhub.
[20:45] <LjL> the fellow had just joined #gentoo and been automatically banned, might be worth watching
[20:55]  * LjL points and laughs at ikonia's 1337 skillz
[20:55]  * ikonia is l337
[20:56] <LjL> channel is quite full of people who won't let you say anything without randomly highlighting you with their random question today, huh
[20:57] <ikonia> looks like it
[21:44] <bazhang> dont click that link
[21:46] <bazhang> has some kind of mad flash exploit in it.
[21:46] <LjL> !staff | user "billy1234667" is spamming channels apparently with a mad flash exploit - #ubuntu, #django for now
[22:47] <ikonia> mrwes: thanks for joining
[22:47] <mrwes> hrmm
[22:48] <mrwes> yes?
[22:48] <mrwes> is this where I get scolded?
[22:48] <ikonia> basiclly I just wanted to ask you to keep the random noise down stop trying to argue things 
[22:48] <ikonia> your not getting scolded
[22:48] <mrwes> nods
[22:48] <ikonia> I'm asking you nicley, making random noise and being pedantic about a few things just makes noise and detracts from the support channels main function, support
[22:49] <bazhang> nice
[22:49] <ikonia> well, if he wants to be like that, fine. Thats a warning
[22:50] <bazhang> been warned three times
[22:50] <ikonia> I was trying to just be polite, 
[22:50] <ikonia> well, thats his "final" warning for me
[22:50] <bazhang> clearly he is in 'taunt' mode
[22:50] <ikonia> not for long if he continues
[23:41] <Flannel> ubottu: tell drog about away
[23:42] <jussi01> Flannel: lol
[23:42]  * Flannel wins!
[23:42] <jussi01> heheheh