/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/11/30/#kubuntu.txt

pihlIs there any reason (or likely way) that my direct rendering would fail with the recent kernel upgrade (fairly new ATI card)? I'm still using KDE 3.5, but the redrawing of windows and overall performance have gone down massively to render the OS practically unusable.00:03
roland_2: that site seems to be outdated00:04
rolandor maybe not00:04
LokiaseHello, i am connected with my WD MyBook World edition via Samba, I give my pasword when I want to go into a dir, and that works fine. But when I want to paste a file in it, it fails, WHYYY? :s00:04
_2roland should still work.00:04
roland_2: can't find flashplugin-nonfree in adept00:07
alex_21Hi, I need to use wireless on an Acer. How do I set up the drivers? Also how do you use a screen reader? I am on 8.1000:07
_2!info flashplugin-nonfree00:07
ubottuflashplugin-nonfree (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10.0.12.36ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 18 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)00:07
_2roland it's in multiverse00:07
Lokiase Hello, i am connected with my WD MyBook World edition via Samba, I give my pasword when I want to go into a dir, and that works fine. But when I want to paste a file in it, it fails, WHYYY? :s00:07
rolandhow to i get to multiverse?00:08
_2!repos00:09
ubottuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories00:09
rolandwell i enabled it already00:09
alex_21So my wireless on the Acer with II, how does that driver get installed?00:10
mister-teawhat card?00:11
mister-teaalex_21:  what card?00:12
LokiaseHello, i am connected with my WD MyBook World edition via Samba, I give my pasword when I want to go into a dir, and that works fine. But when I want to paste a file in it, it fails, WHYYY? :s00:12
alex_21I really don't know. I have an older acer laptop00:12
alex_2113 inch with 512 mb ram00:12
mister-teago to terminal and type lspci00:13
mister-teaunless it's usb00:13
kr0n05would a Seagate ST31000340AS 1TB Barracuda Sata 7200 Rpm 32MB Cache 8.5MS Hard Drive work with any computer made after the year 2006?00:13
kr0n05I all I need for this is a SATA controller, SATA cables, and an enclosure, right?00:14
alex_21Well what should I do first. The thing won't connect over a wire either, and I need to download gnome to go into terminal as I need orca00:14
mister-teakonsole or the shell of you choice will work00:14
_2kr0n05 #hardware might be a better venue for that question00:15
kr0n05ah, thank you :)00:15
alex_21Well, see, I need orca, the screen reader to use terminal00:16
alex_21Unless II includes a screen reader00:16
mister-teaare you running kubuntu00:16
rolandi'm unable the find the place to enable nvidia restricted drivers00:16
alex_21Yes00:16
mister-teathne use konsole00:16
_2roland ummm i thought that was default now?00:17
mister-tea!nvidia00:17
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto00:17
alex_21well, I need a screen reader, does a screen reader exist for KDE00:17
mister-teayou have no screen?00:17
alex_21I can't get out onto the internet, so I need something to read my screen so I can get into Konsol00:18
alex_21I am blind MR. T00:18
mister-teayou don't need internet to run konsole00:18
_2screen reader = text to speach converter ???00:18
mister-teaoh my bad00:18
alex_21No, a full fledged screen reader00:18
_2alex_21 ksayit i think.00:18
alex_21KTTS doesn't work00:18
_2oh,  ok.00:19
rolandi can't find retricted manager in system settings -> advanced00:19
alex_21No worries, I should have said something00:19
mister-teaalex_21:  this is a first for me sorry00:19
asclepiusHey guys did anyone buy that rocketfish bluetooth mouse and keyboard from bestbuy?00:20
The-Compileralex_21: maybe you could try Orca? I haven't tried it before though00:20
alex_21No worries, Mr. T, I am just going to run and get the kubuntu machine and I'll try KSayit00:20
_2!info orca00:20
ubottuPackage orca does not exist in intrepid00:20
asclepiusDoes anyone know how to get bluetooth to automaticlly find the mouse and keyboard on bootup?00:21
dstambouFor some reason after my  screen locks, kde will not accept my password to unlock the screen00:21
dstambouany ideas what to look for? :]00:21
alex_21What? No Orca in Ubuntu 8.10?00:22
mister-teaalex_21:  I found this https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SpeakupInclusion00:22
marek_hello, can you help me with bluez?00:22
_2dstambou check the process table to make sure that the screen is locked by you and not by superuser ?00:23
MHz128how do I run a kde app with root priv?00:23
_2!kdesudo | MHz12800:23
ubottuMHz128: In KDE use « kdesudo <program> » (or « kdesu <program> » for Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! | See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to find out why00:23
The-Compiler_2, alex_21: the package is named "gnome-orca"00:23
* mister-tea realizes that might not help without internet00:24
_2The-Compiler ah.  so is there a kde version ?00:24
The-Compiler_2: shouldn't matter if it runs under Gnome or KDE00:24
_2The-Compiler just thinking of the extra packages it will pull in being a gah-no-me app00:25
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Guest33357hola00:26
_2ubottu is is is00:26
kuruminportugurs???00:26
_2!pt00:26
ubottuPor favor use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.00:26
kurumintem alguem ai00:27
_2!en | kurumin00:27
ubottukurumin: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat00:27
alex_21It does matter. It only reads in Gnome. It is something about how it interacts with GNome applications00:27
_2alex_21 ah, confirmation; i suspected that, but was not about to voice my ignorance about it...00:28
dstambou_2: what process should I be looking for?00:29
mister-teaalex_21: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SpeakupInclusion you can download speakup here but it is depending on internet00:29
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_2dstambou *screen*00:29
alex_21My screen now flickers and goes out while loading KDE00:29
mister-teahow do you know that?00:30
_2dstambou pstree   # might help     i'm also not sure that it isn't a bug, you might check the bug reports too00:30
alex_21Nerver mind, that is a battery issue00:30
_2!bug | dstambou00:30
ubottudstambou: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots00:30
alex_21I can see a very little bit00:31
mister-teaalex_21: according to what I read speakup is the screen reader for kde00:31
_2!info speakup00:31
ubottuPackage speakup does not exist in intrepid00:31
mister-teacan you download it to a usb stick or cd and put it on the machine in question00:32
alex_21I'm back, I ran and got my power brick00:33
mister-teaouch the install is a bear00:33
_2a beer ?    oh a bear !       pwehw00:34
* mister-tea wonders about the logic of making an accesibility software so difficult to install00:34
dstambou_2: hrmm, I killed krunner_lock and it brought me back to my session00:34
dstambou_2: but the process is owned by me00:34
_2dstambou then it's probably a bug,  what versions do    kwin --version   give you?00:35
dstambouqt 4.4.3 / kde&kwin 4.1.8100:35
mister-teaalex_21: can you tell me the exact model of your lappy and I'll try to google the specs00:35
alex_21Bad problem, no sound either00:36
_2dstambou ok.   care to either check if there is already one, or file a bug report on that process ?00:36
mister-teaoh man your killing me00:36
alex_21And the screen keeps flickering00:36
_2!bug > dstambou00:36
ubottudstambou, please see my private message00:36
rolandwhy doesn't adept show all packages?00:37
dstambou_2: no problem00:37
mister-teaalex_21: alright tell me all you know about it00:37
Rioting_pacifistI was running gdb vtt1 then the program crashed and i started up a 2nd xorg server to figure out what to do with the backtrace, but now tty is completly blank00:37
_2mister-tea it might help him help you if you take that to pm   i don't know how fast his app can read what the channel says00:38
mister-teak will do00:39
alex_21Acer Aspire 3624WXMi00:39
_2Rioting_pacifist which tty is blank ?00:40
_2Rioting_pacifist tty1 ?00:40
Rioting_pacifisttty1 and 7 has my crashed program running in xorg00:41
alex_21Voiceover keeps up great with the channel at the rate I am putting it up to, but I appreciate a PM00:41
_2Rioting_pacifist ok. you do know that when you switch tty's you lose the scroll back buffer for that tty don't you ?00:41
reggiehey folks i'm new to gnome and i was trying to change the icon theme but for the life of me i cant figure out how to do it00:42
Rioting_pacifist_2: no i didnt lol panic over00:42
lolrenhy00:42
lolreni got a question00:42
reggiein kde i know exactly where to go to do that but gnome seems to have that hidden well00:42
_2Rioting_pacifist i mean you would need text inputed into a filter like less or screen if you need to switch tty's and still have more than one screen full of output00:42
reggiedoes amyone know how to change the theme00:43
Dr_willis_reggie   well thats a question for #ubuntu :) but in short.. I fire up the gnome theme manager tool. access the icon theme tab.. and drag/drop new icon themes to it. :) that installs them. If thats what you mean..00:43
timo_moin moin00:44
reggieso just drag and drop the tarball package?00:44
Dr_willis_reggie  or use that  'gnome-art' tool.00:44
Dr_willis_reggie  yep.00:44
Dr_willis_assuming its packaged right00:44
reggiehummm let me try it00:44
reggiethanx one sec00:44
_2Rioting_pacifist the reason behind that is that the kernel supports multiple ttys but the vidio chip only has one textmode buffer,  and while it is the size of the vidio ram, it clears each time the screen is reset.00:44
lolreni have a laptop ..... is not my laptop... is my girlfriend laptop and she`s got vista, i instaled ubuntu with wubi in d: drive but i dont see d: drive from linux.... does anyone knowes why?00:44
asclepiusanyone know to get bluetooth to autoconnect?00:45
Dr_willis_lolren  because you have to mount the windows drives to allow linux to access them00:45
reggiehummm that didnt work00:45
lolreni know that but i cant see them in /dev00:45
Dr_willis_reggie  what theme file and whats the url you got it from?00:45
lolrenbrb 1 sec 1 have a idea....00:46
Dr_willis_lolren  try 'sudo fdisk -l' and see whats seen00:46
Rioting_pacifist_2:  i never noticed that because most stuff just stays but as i was running gdb it set the whole thing to black thnkx for the help00:46
reggiei downloaded the icon theme from the gnome website00:46
_2Rioting_pacifist welcome00:46
lolren/dev/sda1               1         192     1536000   27  Unknown00:47
lolrenPartition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.00:47
lolreni ntfs00:48
_2Rioting_pacifist and the stuff displayes (as in without scrolling up) should stay put. that's in kernel ram but the scroll back buffer is cleared each change of tty   the scroll back is in vidio ram not system ram.    i hope i haven't done more to confuse than to help.00:48
Rioting_pacifist_2:  not at all its always good to learn new thing00:51
_2Rioting_pacifist i had a lappy with ati everything,  that the driver was not fully supporting the chip and it would clear the textmode buffer without reseting it, affecting all tty's when you switched in/out of vidio mode,  and thus one switch to tty7(xorg) and back made tty1 ~ tty6 all black even tought when you start typing the text would appear everything above it was cleared from sight.    that was a vidio driver issue and not n00:53
Rioting_pacifistim using a similar setup, why do the ttys use video drivers though?00:55
_2Rioting_pacifist they don't, xorg does, kernel frame buffer does(the boot splash thingy), and things like svgalibs do(support for graphical mode without xorg).   it's normally the switching from vidio mode to textmode or even from one vidio mode to another vidio mode that hoses things.00:57
mrksbrdanyone know how to set up remote printing (ie... thru WiFi to a printer attatched to another linux box)?00:57
* mrksbrd summons genii00:58
Dr_willis_cups configuration should/can see all other cups servers00:58
Rioting_pacifistmrksbrd: something like samba might work for an easy setup, but figuring out cups is probably the better way to do it00:59
mrksbrddo i set it up via tcp there is several settings to choose00:59
mrksbrdi had it working when the other machine was a winblows xp box.....but not it is a linux01:00
mrksbrd*now01:00
_2Rioting_pacifist the vidio chip has to be put into a different MODE for normal text display 80char_wide*25line_high@16colour, or graphical mode width*hight@depth aka vidio mode01:00
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_2it's the transition that normally causes problems if there are any.01:01
mrksbrdshould linux show a share under "network" in system settings/01:01
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djg9282can anyone tell me how i can get an embedded sound from the internet onto my harddrive? i am using mplayer plugin to play embedded files like a wma file...but i'd like to get it saved to hard drive any ideas?01:01
_2!samba | mrksbrd depends on the share.01:02
ubottumrksbrd depends on the share.: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.  Also see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/21209801:02
Dr_willis_embedded? Embedded in what?01:03
_2mrksbrd linux to linux, most people just use something like ssh and the fish:// protocal01:03
Rioting_pacifistalso under kde3 there is a nice tool to do samba stuff, dont know about kde4 though01:03
djg9282like for instance...if i go to yankees.com and i go to hear a audio file...it brings it up through mplayer..but i don't know how to save as...i thought maybe going through a program like ardour and then hitting record...that would then record the sound file going through my speakers, but that won't help either01:04
_2thefish:// is nice.01:04
mrksbrdi don't think i need samba though....now windows boxes on network anymore01:04
alex_21Hi,01:04
_2mrksbrd ssh is for you.01:04
_2!ssh01:04
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/01:04
mrksbrdalright i'll look into it01:04
mrksbrdty01:05
alex_21I want to go back to Hardy, but on the Acer Aspire 362WXMi, I can't get wireless01:05
_2welcome01:05
Dr_willis_mrksbrd  last time i had 2 linux machines with printers i checked the cups settings on one.. and it automatically saw the cups server on the other box.. its possible ubuntu hs some security setup to not show it.. ive not used a setup like that in  a while01:05
mrksbrdk01:05
_2oh did he say printer ?    i must have missed that01:06
Ashex*sigh* my system has issues01:06
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Ashexit's gotten to the point of where I need to take my online tests for a class, but I'm afraid the browser will freeze up01:06
mrksbrdlol....yea trying to print wirelessly to a printer on another linux box01:06
_2mrksbrd sorry.  i didn't see the "printer" question.   just went from the "should linux show a share..." posting...  my bad.    cups it is.01:07
Ashexhooray for Arch :p01:07
Rioting_pacifistAshex: what is causing the issues? binary dirvers? flash? which browser?01:09
AshexRioting_pacifist, it's both Opera and Firefox01:10
Ashexflash runs slowly, same for java and javascript01:10
Ashexany type of rendering is slow and not very responsive01:10
_2alex_21 i would think that the L T S releases would be better suited and better supported for special cases like your own.    hardy is LTS by the way.01:10
Ashexapplications are also slow to load, it's not an issue with hardware either01:10
Ashexjust some elusive slowdown with the system as a whole01:11
Rioting_pacifistAshex: what release are you on? have you tried lookng at top or htop to see whats causing it?01:11
AshexRioting_pacifist, I noticed just how bad it was when I setup Arch linux on my T42 and it renders pages faster01:11
AshexRioting_pacifist, I'm using Intrepid01:12
Ashextop 3 in top are firefox, mpd, and artsd01:12
_2iftop too01:12
_2!info iftop01:12
ubottuiftop (source: iftop): displays bandwidth usage information on an network interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17-8 (intrepid), package size 30 kB, installed size 104 kB01:12
AshexI use bwm-ng, I have by downloads limited to 600KB/s01:13
Ashexmy*01:13
KiDFlaShhey guys how can i remove the hotkey for decrease volume?01:13
Ashexit's also when I'm not downloading anything01:13
KiDFlaShpls01:13
KiDFlaShi need this help01:13
alex_21Yes, I am going back to Hardy01:14
_2heh. #1 in htop is htop on my system   hehhe01:14
AshexKiDFlaSh, System Settings> Keyboard&Mouse>Keyboard Shortcuts01:14
_2or in kde3   just run  khotkeys01:14
Ashexthat too01:15
Rioting_pacifistAshex: sounds like a sound problem, do you have any sound issues?01:15
AshexI'm waiting for kde 4.1 beta to get pushed into the repos01:15
AshexRioting_pacifist, nope, never had any01:16
_24.1 ?   or 4.2 ?01:16
Ashex_2, 4.2, my mistake :p01:16
_2!kde401:16
ubottuKDE 4.1.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.3 - Support in #kubuntu01:16
Ashex_2, this is a snippet of top: http://pastebin.ca/127072901:17
_2all this hurry hurry hurry get a new version out quick, non-sense really needs put in it's place.   a new version is worth nothing if it's not a genuine improvement.01:18
Ashex_2, I take it you haven't read the release notes for 4.201:18
* _2 was talking about ubuntu in general not just kde01:19
Rioting_pacifisti think they have made some good changes in the move to kde4 but i simply dont see the need for them over kde3 its like xp -> vista a lot of hastle for very little benifit01:19
alex_21Ok, Burning the disk01:20
Ashex_2, I agree on that point :p01:21
_2Ashex so mpd is eating 18% cpu time?01:21
alex_21Waiting.. I am going back01:21
* _2 wonders what mpd is...01:21
alex_21Back to 8.0401:21
Rioting_pacifist!mpd01:21
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about mpd01:22
alex_21Besides my own distro will be based on 8.0401:22
Rioting_pacifistmedia mplayer demon or something like that its a CLI media player IRRC01:22
Ashex_2, media player daemon01:22
Ashexwhat Rioting_pacifist said01:22
Ashexyou can use whatever client you want with it01:22
_2Ashex and you are playing ?01:22
Ashex_2, flac audio right now01:23
alex_21Well, on another note, what  is better for doing this. I want to play music from my firefly server and other ITunes libraries on my LAN. Is Songbird, ATunes, amerock, or something else better for sighted users who have used ITunes and really don't know much about computing, so I want the closest thing01:25
_2hmmm and your cpu is  ?01:25
alex_21I mean the closest visual thing01:25
Ashex_2, AMD Athlon X2 2.6Ghz01:26
Ashexalex_21, you want something similar to itunes?01:26
alex_21Yes, visually similar01:26
_2Ashex  that media player if not doing a lot of visual affects is pretty heavy.   sox playing .ogg files on a 1ghz copper mine  is using less than 10% of my cpu time  ;/01:27
AshexAlex135_, the default music player for ubuntu should do it01:27
AshexI'm blanking on the name01:27
_2amarock01:28
_2!amaroc01:28
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about amaroc01:28
_2!info amaroc01:28
ubottuPackage amaroc does not exist in intrepid01:28
_2pfft.01:28
Dillizar!amarock01:28
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about amarock01:28
Dillizar!amarok01:29
ubottuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.8 (1.4.3 for Dapper LTS). Packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok01:29
Ashex_2, it's spelled amarok01:29
_2!info amarok01:29
ubottuamarok (source: amarok): versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.10-0ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 2396 kB, installed size 7040 kB01:29
Ashex_2, well sure, .ogg is a different format from flac01:29
Dillizarwho is asking for a player ??01:29
Dillizarand what for01:29
Dillizarcuz i have installed allllll the players :)01:30
Dillizarand all the IMs :)01:30
AshexDillizar, congratulations?01:30
Dillizarlol01:30
Dillizari know01:30
Dillizarand all browsers01:30
Ashexthank you for sharing01:31
alex_21So arerock, perfect01:31
alex_21Amerock you say, I'll try01:31
Dr_willis_amarock01:31
Dillizaralex_21, you want a audio player??01:31
AshexIt is spelled Amarok01:31
alex_21Yes, visually similar to ITunes01:31
Dillizarthen01:31
Dillizarbashidou01:31
Dillizaror smt like that01:32
Dillizarwait01:32
AshexAlex135_, amarok isn't01:32
Ashexyou mean banshee?01:32
Alex135_Ashex: nice01:32
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_2bill is the space bar linked to the enter key on your setup ?01:33
Ashexalex_21, you want to try out rhythmbox01:33
Dillizarbanshee alex_2101:33
Dillizarthis is the most similar01:33
AshexAlex135, my bad, meant to go to alex_21 :P01:34
Alex135Ashex: ya, happens most of the time ;)01:35
Alex135Ashex: oh well, i become popular via that method at any rate, you should see me in ##club-ubuntu, im almost alwase called on by accident01:35
Ashexhehe01:35
AshexAlex135, on other servers I go by Generic, you should see how often I'm mentioned :p01:35
Dillizaralex_21, adn it works with Ipods and Iphone01:36
mister-teaAlex135:  what time is it there? there I called you on purpose01:36
* mister-tea wants everyone to feel needed01:37
AshexWhat about the emo kids who want to be left alone?01:38
* _2 thought he had a thought, but then he wot it was a wot01:38
_2wot=waste of time01:38
Dillizarwot?01:38
Dillizarok01:38
Dillizar:P01:38
Dillizar:P~~~01:38
Ashexdribble?01:38
Dillizarbut wot is a word:P01:39
_2and an acronymn01:39
jussi01hrm, perhaps we can get back on topic now?01:40
Dillizarwhat is the topic?01:40
Ashexbah01:40
jussi01!topic01:40
ubottuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic01:40
AshexPlease take any non kubuntu discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic01:40
mister-tea!ot01:41
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!01:41
Dillizarwait01:41
Dillizarif i upgrade the 8.04 to 8.10 will my kernel be changed ??01:42
AshexDillizar, yes, the previous kernels are preserved though01:42
_2yeah huh01:42
Dr_willis_Dillizar  i would say yes...01:42
Ashexyou can select the previous kernel during boot01:42
Dillizaroh well i already installed a fresh 8.10 but its good to know cuz this new kernel doesnt support anything01:43
_2wait i have a question,   if i remove /sys  how does it break usb ?01:43
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Ashex_2, why do you want to remove /sys?01:43
Dr_willis_remove /sys ? egads01:43
Dillizarso i can have old kernel but new kde??01:43
AshexDillizar, yes01:44
Dr_willis_If you dont want kde4 - dont upgrade... :)01:44
Dillizar:D01:44
* mister-tea don't upgrade gets my vote01:44
_2Ashex reason matters not.  question remains, how did it break usb ?01:46
rolandi'm having problems with nvidia restricted modules01:47
Ashex!sys01:47
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about sys01:47
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Ashex_2, I believe udev relies on it01:48
rolandwhen tring to enable it, i get an error... Title :"Sorry" with an empty box01:48
burn_anyone know any proxy for linux that can be run from K menu?01:49
* mister-tea well at least it's polite01:49
_2Ashex but i don't use udev so that's not the problem.01:49
Ashex_2, udev isn't the only thing that does, It's a major part of the system, I just can't think of a reason atm01:49
_2Ashex the device nodes are all there in /dev/ and the modules are all inserted but without /sys  mount /dev/sda1 /mnt  fails miserably.01:50
_2i'm trying to wrap my head around why01:50
Ashex_2, I'm not entirely sure, reason I can't answer is because having /sys is slightly out of standard01:55
Ashex_2, you're question is better asked in ##linux01:55
_2Ashex or in #kernel01:56
Ashexthat too01:56
Dr_willis_ How about ##leetLinuxHaxoring :)01:58
mikeblack_http://deine-nackte-weihnachtsfrau.net/?id=266756101:58
Dillizarhow about www.letmegooglethatforyou.com02:06
Dillizarwhat nobody has a problem?? :P02:11
cuzntyes02:11
_2Dillizar get back on topic.02:11
Lex79LoL02:11
Dillizar:(02:11
* Dillizar gets back on topic 02:11
* Dillizar is waiting for a problem 02:14
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rolandDillizar: i have a problem02:34
rolandi'm having problems with nvidia restricted modules02:34
rolandwhen tring to enable it, i get an error... Title :"Sorry" with an empty box02:34
Dillizarsorry dunno02:34
KiDFlaShI cant hear Musik or YouTube with usbheadset why ?02:40
KiDFlaShAlsa dont have powers?02:40
jussi01KiDFlaSh: which version of kubuntu are you using?02:42
jussi01Hardy or intrepid?02:42
KiDFlaSh8.1002:42
DillizarKiDFlaSh, maybe if you close all other audio and video players will work !02:43
Dillizaror smt if you are calling some one on skype flash sound will not work02:44
KiDFlaShwtf?02:44
KiDFlaShno im calling nobody02:44
Dillizarare you listening to music02:44
Dillizaror smt like that02:44
jussi01KiDFlaSh: no, its simple, go to system settings, sounds, and raise the importance of the usb headset there02:44
KiDFlaShi already done that02:44
KiDFlaShjussi02:44
jussi01Dillizar: that shouldnt affect it02:44
KiDFlaShthats the problem02:45
GGobyI have 8.10 installed and just installed samba...however I run Kubuntu under vmware workstation...it has assigned me a ip of 192.168.237.129 and the rest of my lan is on 192.168.1.XX  what is the best way to allow clients from this ip range to access the samba shares? I am unfamiliar with connections on different subnets02:45
Dillizarwell it did affect me :P02:45
DillizarKiDFlaSh,02:46
jussi01KiDFlaSh: try this in terminal: asoundconf list02:46
Dillizartry closeing all other players and try again :P02:46
jussi01then: asoundconf set-default-card <cardname>02:46
KiDFlaShthere are to02:46
KiDFlaShtwo02:46
KiDFlaShSI701202:47
KiDFlaShand default02:47
jussi01KiDFlaSh: likely its called "Headset"02:47
jussi01KiDFlaSh: is it only not working ion flash? or elsewhere also?02:47
KiDFlaShamarok and flash02:47
jussi01KiDFlaSh: and youve set it to highest priority in all the categories in system settings - sounds?02:48
KiDFlaShyes02:48
KiDFlaShALL categories02:48
jussi01KiDFlaSh: 1 moment02:49
WalzmynI tried turning the desktop effects on in KDE4 - now the screen is black. How can i fix this?02:51
alex_21Hi, I am back, just reinstalled02:51
jussi01KiDFlaSh: and you have restarted both firefox/konq and amarok after changing the settings?02:51
Dillizaralex_21, you are the one wiht the itunes02:52
Dillizar*with02:52
alex_21what is the festival package called in the Hardy Repository02:52
alex_21?02:52
alex_21Yes, I am02:53
alex_21Gnome-festival?02:53
Dillizarso is the client working good02:53
alex_21Which client?02:53
Dillizarahhh02:53
Dillizaryou were searching for a program that looks like Itunes02:54
Dillizaryes02:54
alex_21Banshee, I am not sure, no users are around to test it02:54
KiDFlaShyes jussi01 i have02:54
Dillizari have tested :P02:54
alex_21Is that the one you mean?02:54
Dillizaryes02:54
Dillizarit works good i am useing it right now02:55
Dillizarand supports ipods02:55
alex_21Yes, that is cool, it supports IPods02:56
alex_21IPods, Yay02:56
Dillizaryes02:56
alex_21Do you guys know if it supports the speech feature of the chromatic IPods?02:56
alex_21IPods02:56
DillizarBanshee?02:58
alex_21Something is wrong with my network, it is 11KB persecond, when it can handle 10MegaBits persecond02:58
alex_21Yes, can Banshee handle that feature?02:58
Dillizartry it out02:58
Dillizar:D02:58
alex_21I will, as soon as Banshee finishes downloadind02:59
alex_21I said there is something wrong with my network02:59
Dillizarmaybe its just your internet that is slow02:59
Dillizar:P02:59
alex_21It can handle 10 MegaBits per second, and is only handling 11 KB per second03:01
alex_21It is set up like this03:01
Dillizardunno03:02
Dillizartry sudo pppoeconf03:02
Dillizaragain and set it03:02
Dillizarif its a pppoe modem03:03
alex_21A Ubuntu DHCP server plugged into a 16 port 100/10 port switch. A Lynksys router, the gateway, plugged into the switch. The main internet line goes into the WAN port on the router. The rest of the machines are conncected via the switch, except my laptop which is connected via wire to the Lynksys router03:03
Dillizarthere is your problem03:03
DillizarJUST PUT THE DAMN MODEM CABLE IN YOUR LAN03:04
Dillizar:D03:04
Dillizaryou are sharing your internet03:04
alex_21I don't have enough IP addresses to feed all the machines directly from the cable internet03:04
alex_21And it is only three machines running right now, and one of them is only using IRC03:05
KiDFlaShjussi01: still hereß03:05
Dillizarlol KiDFlaSh03:05
Dillizar:D03:05
alex_21It used to be fast before I introduced the central switch03:05
alex_21Now each machine adverages about 11 KB per second03:06
Dillizarremove the central switch03:06
alex_21Can I set it up differently, like have the dhcp server plugged directly into the router03:07
Dillizaror just take a wifi router03:07
alex_21Or will that not make a difference03:07
Dillizar:D03:07
alex_21?03:07
Dillizardunno i just put the cable in my pc sudo pppoeconf03:07
Dillizaryes03:07
Dillizaryes03:08
Dillizaryes03:08
Dillizarusername03:08
Dillizarpassword03:08
Dillizaryes03:08
Dillizaryes03:08
DillizarDONE03:08
Dillizar:)03:08
alex_21If I remove the central switch, all eight connections that can share the internet at any given time won't be active, Frown03:08
_2!enter03:08
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!03:08
alex_21Now it dropped to 5343 Bytes per second03:09
Dillizardunno03:10
alex_215346, sorry03:10
Dillizartry to connect to one pc and see if there are still problems03:10
Dillizari must go its 04.10.45 AM and i am sleepy03:11
burn__Dillizar is from europe :D03:11
Dillizaryes03:11
Dillizar:D03:11
burn__gtm +2 :D03:11
burn__neighbour :D03:12
Dillizargmt+103:12
Dillizarwhere are you from bulgaristan03:12
burn__bulgaria :D03:12
burn__am from Serbia03:12
Dillizarpa so ne kazes03:12
Dillizar:D03:12
burn__hehe :D03:12
Dillizaridam jas za belgrad za nekoj den03:12
Dillizarzadutre03:12
burn__ja sam juzno od belgrad :D03:13
Dillizarnovi sad :D03:13
burn__vranje03:13
Dillizarej pa toa e na granica03:13
Dillizar:D03:13
burn__blizu kosovo03:13
Tm_Tenglish please03:13
Dillizarznam03:13
Dillizarsorry Tm_T03:13
burn__yep sorry03:14
Dillizari am in Skopje03:14
Dillizar:D03:14
alex_21How do I make an app from source code03:14
Tm_T!compiling | alex_2103:14
ubottualex_21: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)03:14
burn__compile it03:14
Dillizari was at work from 4pm to 2 am and now its 4 am and i am going inparis03:15
Dillizarand i need rest03:15
burn__sleep well03:16
Dillizarfala03:16
burn__kazi na english da se bune :D03:16
Dillizarthanks03:16
Dillizar:D03:16
alex_21I am building custom software I modified03:16
Dillizarburn ok one cig i am gone03:16
alex_21I modified the default Webkit source for GTKLauncher and now I want to compile it03:17
Ch1ppyhey, I was on a few days ago and someone mentioned that the kde 4.2 beta 1 packages are being worked on, but alluded to being unable to give a timeline. Is there anywhere I can watch for an announcement of these packages in lieu of a date for these being ready?03:18
Tm_TCh1ppy: no, noone cannot tell "when" they're ready until they are03:18
Ch1ppyThat's what I'm saying03:18
Tm_TCh1ppy: but when they are ready, www.kubuntu.org is the place03:18
Ch1ppyTm_T: awesome, thanks03:18
Tm_Tnp03:19
epimethCh1ppy: there are packages ready... let me find them for you03:20
Ch1ppyepimeth: for serious? Nice!03:21
Tm_Tepimeth: no, don't say you're proposing Neon...03:21
epimethI am, actually... why not, Tm_T?03:22
Ch1ppyAhaha03:22
Tm_Tepimeth: it's not the same (;)03:22
Ch1ppyIsn't neon only certain parts of kde 4?03:23
Ch1ppyI was under the impression that it was more the stuff for developing rather than the actual desktop stuff03:23
alex_21So how do I compile GTKLauncher for Ubuntu03:23
alex_21?03:23
Tm_TCh1ppy: mmmm, it's most of KDE but it's more like "daily" than "polished release"03:23
Tm_Talex_21: does sourcepackage of it have INSTALL or README files?03:24
Ch1ppyTm_T: Oh okay. I knew that neon is the nightlies though - I run amarok's neon03:24
Tm_Troger03:24
Ch1ppyI think I'd rather wait for the actual beta rather than the nightlies of 4.2 though03:24
epimethCh1ppy: so yea, its project neon and its nightly03:24
epimethhttp://roderick-greening.blogspot.com/2008/11/kde-nightly-neon-for-thrill-seeker-in_03.html03:24
epimethyou're choice :-)03:25
Ch1ppyindeed03:25
Ch1ppyepimeth: Thanks :)03:25
epimethCh1ppy: nw03:26
burn__can this nightly to be installed on 8.04?03:26
epimethburn__: yea, deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu hardy main03:29
epimethafaik03:29
burn__and it will install kde4-neon?03:30
epimethburn__: kde-nightly03:31
burn__and that kde is it kde3 or kde4?03:32
oscarhola alguien que desee charlar03:32
epimethburn__: I would probably wait for the beta to get to backports tho... should happen any day now03:32
burn__thnx03:32
epimethoscar: solamente ingles aqui....03:33
epimeth!es > oscar03:33
ubottuoscar, please see my private message03:33
beanbaganyone have a problem with screen flicker on Dell laptop with 8.10?03:34
alex_21I had the problem on an Acer Aspire laptop and screen flicker, lol03:35
beanbagany solution?03:35
alex_21No, I went back to Hardy and am having no problems03:36
alex_21Someone here said that it may not meet RAM requirements03:36
beanbagthe laptop has 2G RAM or is it graphics memory03:37
alex_21I don't know03:40
alex_21Does anyone know how to compile and install GTKLauncher, the free, basic Web Browser included with Webkit source03:42
beanbagI think I'll try going back since it worked fine then, Thanks for the input03:43
_2!checkinstall | alex_2103:44
ubottualex_21: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!03:44
alex_21Before you do, look on the foum at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ someone may have found a way to fix it03:44
alex_21But how do I compile it first03:45
alex_21?03:46
oscarhi03:47
_2!b-e | alex_21 have you visited this link03:48
ubottualex_21 have you visited this link: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)03:48
_2"such changes seem to happen very quickly, over very long periods of time."03:52
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alex_21Ok, thanks04:01
giuso04:03
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KiDFlaShso04:03
_2!nickspam04:03
ubottuYou should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels; it causes excessive scrolling which is unfair to new users. Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead. See also « /msg ubottu Guidelines »04:03
_2so04:04
Viking667Hey all. Got Hardy, want to upgrade to Intrepid. The "desktop" itself hasn't notified me that there's an update version to Intrepid available, how do I get the version to dist-update?04:04
_2!upgrade04:04
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes04:04
Viking667ahh. So it's there. I'll go back there and look again. Thank you.04:05
_2Viking667 if all else fails you can use the manual methood.  change your /etc/apt/sources.list from hardy to intrepid and apt-get update ;apt-get dist-upgrade04:06
Viking667... hm. The web page applies to ubuntu, not kubuntu. I haven't found a "Software Sources" application, (presumably that manages the repositories)04:08
Viking667... in the KDE menus.04:08
Viking667Oh, sorry.04:09
Viking667missed a link. - be right back.04:09
raulintrepidHola alguienq ue hable español ?04:09
lolren!sp04:10
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about sp04:10
lolren!es04:10
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.04:10
raulintrepidGracias :)04:10
lolrennp04:10
alex_21Que queres04:11
jmichaelxi guess beanbag has left.. i was looking into his screen flicker problem.04:12
Viking667merci. That's what I wanted. Thank you.04:13
hayt3rhello04:14
hayt3ris there anyway to upgrade kubuntu to latest version from 5.10 without using cd?04:14
jmichaelxhayt3r: you have no CD ROM drive with this machine?04:15
hayt3rit's broken04:15
jmichaelxi would think you really need a fresh install if you are still using 5.1004:16
jmichaelxcan your machine boot from USB?04:16
hayt3rI don't remember seeing that in the boot options04:17
hayt3rthis is an old machine04:17
jmichaelxit sounds to me like you really should buy a CD ROM drive, or rob one from another machine - at least temporarily04:18
hayt3rhaha that's what I was afraid of04:19
jmichaelxis this a laptop?04:19
hayt3rno, it's desktop04:19
jmichaelxusing a standard CD ROM drive?04:19
hayt3ryea04:20
jmichaelxwell, getting a hold of another drive shouldn't be too big of a deal04:20
jmichaelxgo to a PC repair shop, and they might just give you an old one04:20
hayt3rok, i'll deal with this after finals are over then04:21
alex_21What machine is this?04:22
alex_21I mean, a Dell, HP, what04:22
alex_21?04:22
hayt3rcustom, from 8 yrs ago04:22
jmichaelxhayt3r: i am not sure what else to recommend. you could possibly try upgrading to dapper... then upgrading to hardy... then to intrepid, but that would take aeons04:24
jmichaelxinstructions from upgrading from dapper to hardy directly: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades04:26
jmichaelxfor*04:26
alex_21Anyone know about Apple routers here?04:33
jreinaldoI''m using Kubuntu intrepid. Every time after I choose a new video resolution (System configuration/screen) it hangs. Only rebooting solves the problem. There is someone how knows why?04:36
eamonhello im trying to set up a proxy server on my network iv got as far as installing squid and restarting it but it comes up with a message sayingFATAL cound not determine fully qualified hostname.04:43
eamonplease set 'visible_hostname04:44
eamoncan anyone help04:44
eamonhello04:45
alex_21Well, use hostname.local maye04:47
alex_21Maybe04:48
jmichaelxjreinaldo: you might try installing and running 'displayconfig-gtk' , and see if that might help you04:53
jmichaelxjreinaldo: i am also lost these days with the new xorg and everything04:53
loganWHDwhat is the "control Panel" called where i can see the settings of the sound drivers04:55
loganWHDI need to apt-get install it and i dont know what it is called04:55
jreinaldojichaelx: I think that this packge (displayconfig-gtk) isn't in the repositories of intrepid04:55
jreinaldojichaelx: I checked now and this package doesn't appear in the Adept list04:56
jmichaelxjreinaldo: it looks like you're right about that04:56
loganWHD?04:57
DaveTheAveSo does anyone have a working widget for lowest local gas prices?04:58
jmichaelxjreinaldo: i basically knew what to do in the old days, but anymore i do not even know how to tell what video driver is being used04:58
DaveTheAveNoticed the Mac X widget support has yet to be finished.04:58
jreinaldojichaelx: I'm lost too. The xorg.conf doesn't show anything!04:59
loganWHDwhat is the "control Panel" called where i can see the settings of the sound drivers05:01
loganWHDI need to apt-get install it and i dont know what it is called05:01
jmichaelxloganWHD: i guess i am not sure what you are asking for05:01
loganWHDi installed the mini-iso in an attempt to fix many of my issues i am having with 8.1005:02
loganWHDand my sound card doesnt work05:02
loganWHDand i want to go to teh settings area to check them out but that isnt installed05:02
loganWHDi dont know what it is called so i can apt-get it05:02
jmichaelxloganWHD: you can check various volume settings by entering 'alsamixer' in a console. you then use your direction keys to make changes, and hit escape when you're finished05:03
loganWHDyah that isnt the issue05:03
loganWHDthey arent muted05:03
loganWHDand the volume is up05:03
loganWHDbut when i boot a small box pops up and says that the driver isnt working so it switches to default05:03
loganWHDi went thru https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto step by step05:04
jmichaelxhmm05:04
loganWHDwith no success05:04
jmichaelxloganWHD: what sort of PC are you using? what audio adapter?05:05
loganWHDit is a dell inspiron 940005:05
loganWHDlaptop05:05
raulintrepid#ubuntu-es05:05
jmichaelxso it has an intel audio adaptor?05:05
raulintrepid#kubuntu-es05:05
loganWHDyes05:05
loganWHDi have tried so many things with no success05:07
loganWHDall of this started because the sound worked but the mic did not05:08
loganWHDnow no sound... no mic... nada05:08
jmichaelxloganWHD: i do not know whether or not this is your issue, but i know some have had issues getting audio to work on the mini 9's... and this is the fix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98160205:09
loganWHDi will try anything05:10
loganWHDlet me go read this05:10
jmichaelxthat may not work for you at all. have you checked to actually see what kind of audio adapter you have with 'lspci'?05:10
loganWHD00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)05:12
jmichaelxok, you might try that fix in the thread i suggested... no guarantees.05:13
alex_21BTW: I loke Banshee. How do you listen to shared ITunes stuff?05:14
alex_21Like, sorry05:14
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jussi01!intelhda | jmichaelx05:16
ubottujmichaelx: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto05:16
jussi01oops05:16
jussi01loganWHD: ^^05:16
jmichaelxjussi01: ty, that may be what loganWHD needs to read through05:16
jussi01jmichaelx: likely...05:17
loganWHDi did05:17
loganWHDnotice above05:17
loganWHDi followed that whole site05:17
loganWHDnada05:17
loganWHDbrb gonna try what u posted05:17
jmichaelxmy mind was on the issues with intel audio on the mini 9's since i just ordered 3 of them this past morning05:18
alex_21Hey, what is broadcast in the file /etc/network/interfaces?05:19
alex_21?05:20
jmichaelxalex_21: i am sort of thinking that it is just stating what address range your router is broadcasting to05:22
jmichaelxalex_21: i assume the last 6 digits are 255.25505:22
jmichaelxor at least the last three digits are .25505:23
alex_21So what should it be set to if the router broadcasts to 25505:23
alex_21192.168.0.255?05:23
jmichaelxalex_21: that only means that the address in the range of those last 3 numbers are masked05:24
jmichaelxi don't really know how to explain this, but you don't want to/need to change that05:24
jmichaelxaddress*05:24
jmichaelxgrrr05:24
jmichaelxaddresses*05:24
alex_21This is my file05:25
alex_21# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system05:25
alex_21# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).05:25
alex_21# The loopback network interface05:25
alex_21auto lo05:25
alex_21iface lo inet loopback05:25
alex_21# The primary network interface05:25
alex_21auto eth105:25
alex_21iface eth1 inet static05:25
alex_21address 192.168.0.10205:25
alex_21netmask 255.255.255.005:25
alex_21network 192.168.0.005:25
alex_21broadcast 192.168.0.25505:25
alex_21gateway 192.168.0.10105:26
alex_21       05:26
alex_21auto eth005:26
alex_21iface eth0 inet static05:26
alex_21address 192.168.0.105:26
alex_21netmask 255.255.255.005:26
jmichaelxalex_21: be careful, you could get banned for posting like that05:26
alex_21network 192.168.0.005:26
alex_21broadcast 192.168.0.25505:26
alex_21gateway 192.168.0.10105:26
alex_21"/etc/network/interfaces" 23L, 528C written                   10,10         All05:26
alex_21I set this myself, so is this ok?05:26
alex_21Oops, I didn't mean it to come out like that, sorry05:26
alex_21Remember I can't see how it was formated05:27
alex_21Lol05:27
jmichaelxalex_21: well, i am no networking expert, but i assume that all looks OK05:27
jmichaelxalex_21: why are you not using DHCP?05:28
alex_21This is my server, so I can't use dhcp on my server, never mind the fact that this is my dhcp server on eth005:29
jussi01!paste | alex_2105:29
ubottualex_21: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:29
jmichaelxalex_21: ok, makes sense05:29
alex_21I'll bare that in mind about pasting05:30
alex_21If the site isn't accessible, who do I tell05:30
alex_21?05:30
jmichaelxthe pastebin site?05:30
alex_21Yes05:32
alex_21Oh, did I mention that I am a VIP, Visually Impaired Person05:33
alex_21That is why I am concerned about the site's accessibility05:33
jussi01ahh05:33
jmichaelxalex_21: i was starting to get that idea from what you had typed earlier05:33
jmichaelxbrb05:33
alex_21Which bit05:35
alex_21?05:35
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alex_21Oops, now I can't ping my server, ssh to it, or anything. I did something wrong, but what?05:36
alex_21I think I pasted05:39
alex_21Here is my file05:39
alex_21http://paste.ubuntu.com/78214/05:40
colin_alex_21: dhcp is usually the better way to go because then you don't have to deal with routing and all that05:40
colin_static dhcp assignments would work05:40
alex_21I need static as it is a server that I need to port forward to05:40
colin_but you can set up your dhcp server to always give the same address05:41
alex_21This is my dhcp server05:41
colin_oh05:41
colin_I see05:41
alex_21I don't see, Lol,05:41
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alex_21Well, con someone please tell me where I went wrong?05:42
colin_at first glance it looks ok05:43
alex_21Oh, My, I have 30 Mins to get this back up, and I don't even know what is wrong05:44
colin_try taking out "network 192.168.0.0"05:45
alex_21Ok05:46
alex_21Only on one of the interfaces?05:47
colin_try it on one05:47
colin_just to see if it works05:47
alex_21Ok05:48
alex_21I am waiting for it to reboot05:51
colin_ok05:51
colin_so you are sure of the routing on your network?05:51
colin_ie, you are on the right subnet, no strange subnet masks?05:52
alex_21It runs a hundred services, not quite, smiley, but a lot of services, so it takes a good little while05:52
colin_ok05:52
colin_because I can't see anything that would prevent it from working05:53
alex_21Yes, it works now05:53
alex_21Thanks05:53
alex_21So much05:54
colin_no problem :)05:54
colin_so the network line is only required for 2.0 kernels05:54
alex_21Now I can't access my webpage, I get error 500, connection refused. I have port forwarding05:58
colin_you are running apache?05:58
RurouniJonesEr, error 500 is an internal server error05:58
alex_21Sorry, it is fixed no, I guess it took some time to take effect the changes I made06:00
colin_ok06:00
alex_21I still don't receive any mail though06:04
alex_21I took it offline to fix Zimbra, and still no luck06:04
kevin__i can only run in low graphics mode06:06
kevin__i have login error log06:06
alex_21How do you shut up a laptop with a command, mute it, since it is driving me up the wall I am using GNome right now06:07
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dwidmannalex_21: how to mute it? any mixer can do it.06:13
dwidmannalex_21: for example, amix, alsamixer, kmix, etc06:13
alex_21How from the keyboard, as I am blind06:13
stofhello evrybody06:13
dwidmannalex_21: eh,? from the keyboard?, like, a keyboard shortcut, or like a command to type in?06:14
alex_21Anything I don't need to use the mouse for06:14
jussi01alex_21: in terminal: alsamixer06:15
dwidmannalex_21: well, run alsamixer in a konsole06:15
* jussi01 waves to dwidmann06:15
dwidmannjussi01: Great minds don't think alike, they think differently, but they frequently arrive at the same conclusions :)06:16
jussi01hehe, true that06:16
stofhey, I have a problem with the command gcc in order to compile code writen in C06:18
jussi01stof: just trying to compile one file? or a whole program?06:19
stofjust one file but but I receive a error's message06:20
jussi01stof: which is?06:20
alex_21Hey, how do I compile GTKLauncher?06:20
jussi01alex_21: is there a readme included?06:20
alex_21Uh, no06:20
stofit's a long message06:21
stof gcc -o master4.c master406:21
stofmaster4: In function `_start':06:21
jussi01!paste | stof06:21
ubottustof: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:21
stof(.text+0x0): multiple definition of `_start'06:21
stof/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.2.4/../../../../lib/crt1.o:(.text+0x0): first defined here06:21
stofmaster4:(.rodata+0x0): multiple definition of `_fp_hw'06:21
stof/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.2.4/../../../../lib/crt1.o:(.rodata+0x0): first defined here06:21
stofmaster4: In function `_fini':06:21
stof/build/buildd/glibc-2.7/build-tree/i386-libc/csu/crti.S:41: multiple definition of `_fini'06:21
dwidmannstof: that looks backward to me, unless you want to output a file with a .c ext06:21
jussi01stof: soon as the pasting is done, Ill un mute you06:22
jussi01stof: please use a pastebin next time.06:23
alex_21It is the webkit basic browser that comes with webkit source06:23
stofok jussi06:23
alex_21How do you compile it?06:23
dwidmannalex_21: speaking of basic webkit browsers, arora seems to be progressing nicely06:24
jimi_algien habla español06:24
stofI make: gcc -o file.c file06:24
stofI think that I have a problem in the package build essential06:25
jimi_nadie en este sitio habla español06:26
jussi01!es06:26
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.06:26
dwidmannstof: speaking of the arlier attempt to paste, paste it in a pastebin (see channel topic) and give us a link so we can look at it06:27
jimi_gracias06:27
alex_21So how do I compile it and then package it06:28
alex_21I am using checkinstallforpackaging06:28
dwidmannalex_21: run sudo checkinstall after you run make06:29
alex_21But this is the first time I do it, so please help me get through it06:29
alex_21I need a little walk through06:29
dwidmannalex_21: does the project include a "configure" script?06:29
stofthis is the link: http://pastebin.com/m53cadca006:29
dwidmannstof: try what's suggested here: http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-help/1999-10/msg00227.html06:34
stofthank you dwidmann, I will try now06:35
alex_21No, just a simple.svg, a main.c and a text.html that is used to test the browser06:35
dwidmannalex_21: try running "gcc main.c" and see what happens06:36
alex_21What is the svg for?06:37
dwidmannalex_21: it's probably referenced by the html file06:37
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stofthe same problrem, I think that I must uninstall the OS the reinstall it06:43
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stofis there any method to uninstall just a package, _without unistall all the OS_06:46
faileasstof: apt-get remove <packagename>06:47
faileas*sudo apt-get remove06:47
stofok thank u faileas06:47
alex_21Now I can't connect using AFP or SCP to my box now that I have two network interfaces in the same LAN, Why?06:51
alex_21Neither with Web on HTTP port 8006:53
bluestarkubuntu 8.10 sucks hardware drivers it cant download nvidia driver :(06:59
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alex_21Well, this is really frustrationg, nothing works now07:07
alex_21Grr07:11
alex_21Does anyone know why I can't get to my site that I am hosting on my Kubuntu box? I had to shut down using the power button, and now nothing works07:14
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alex_21Anyone?07:21
alex_21Hi, I'm back and still no luck, I'm offline07:32
loganWHDcan i start off by saying......07:33
loganWHDARGGGGHHHHHHHH07:34
loganWHDbetter07:34
loganWHDi followed many of the links you all gave me and got my sound working in 8.1007:34
loganWHDwow, what a freaking beast it was to get one simple thing working....07:34
loganWHDanyhow, got my settings good and then i set up a windows VM for some programs i must run in win..... all is good... it is running in both... then i have to reboot... and bam07:35
loganWHDall sound stops working07:35
loganWHDno errors07:35
loganWHDand it is not muted07:35
loganWHDjust no sound07:35
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miguelpachecoalguien me dice el canal español?07:38
alex_21I am still here, with a downed site, no time left to fix it, freaking out, and at a loss for what to do. Any help?07:39
RurouniJonesWhat is the error07:42
binMonkey!es07:43
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.07:43
alex_21The error is that there is no ... something ... process when I do /etc/init.d/networking restart07:44
RurouniJonesThat doesn't help, you mean you have no network connections?07:44
RurouniJoneswhat does ifconfig say07:44
alex_21hold on, I'm checking now. Also, it doesn't appear to have a network connections07:45
alex_21I don't have a way to tell you everything it says07:48
RurouniJonespastie.org07:48
RurouniJonesoh wait, ok point07:48
RurouniJonesWell, does it list an IP address07:48
Dabbudue to some problem in my laptop my laptop switch between AC power and Battery frequently....and i repeatedly get warning and the screen brightness changes this become annoying....how can i stop this ?07:48
RurouniJonesDabbu, disable kpowersave07:49
DabbuRurouniJones: how..? i am using KDE$ desktop in ubuntu07:49
RurouniJonesOut of curiosity, you on a MSI laptop?07:49
RurouniJonesshoudl be in the taskbar bottom right07:49
RurouniJonesalex_21: What interfaces does it list? It should be something like eth0 or eth1 then a whole bunch of information about it07:50
RurouniJoneslike inet addr etc.07:50
alex_21MSI?07:51
kendahello07:51
kendapeople07:51
RurouniJonesThat was for dabbu,07:51
RurouniJonesNow alex_21: What interfaces are listed and do you have inet addr info for them07:52
kendaхтось говорить по російський чи українськи!??07:52
RurouniJones!ru | kenda07:52
ubottukenda: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke07:52
alex_21Both eth1 and eth0 are listed07:53
kendathank ubottu07:53
bazhangkenda, /join #ubuntu-ru07:53
RurouniJonesand do you have a ton of info about then including things like inet addr07:53
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alex_21Yes, but no way to read it all07:53
RurouniJonesyou have eyeballs don't you?07:53
RurouniJonesJust tell me what the inet addr bit says07:54
RurouniJonessomething like -> inet addr: 192.168.0.107:54
alex_21Yes, I do,07:54
alex_21But I am blind, VIP, Visually Impaired Person07:54
RurouniJonesok, on a longshot then, try -> ifup eht007:55
alex_21192.168.0.107:55
DarkriftXtrying to mount a usb storage device (right clicking on the icon and selecting mount) and i get an error about "isCallerPrivileged()"07:55
RurouniJonesifup eth0 rather07:55
alex_21192.168.0.10207:55
DarkriftXany idea why?07:55
RurouniJonesOk, so your network interfaces are working07:55
RurouniJonesNow, how are you trying to access your website? What is the URL07:56
alex_21http://www.vipbc.org/07:56
RurouniJonesOk, what happens when you try localhost:8007:57
alex_21But in using the command /etc/init.d/networking restart I get an error. No ... Something, ... Process07:57
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RurouniJonesWell it looks like the interfaces are up on an internal IP address07:59
RurouniJonesI can't comment further without knowing what the ... Something ... is07:59
RurouniJonesI am gonna go on the assumption that the interfaces are up and are on the IP addresses they are supposed to be. I am assuming your server is on an internal network behind a NAT router08:00
alex_21I am behind a router, but everything worked fine until I made eth1 static instead of dynamid with dhcp]08:00
RurouniJones...Why did you make it static08:01
alex_21It is the inerface my mail server uses to connect, so I had to port forward to it08:02
RurouniJonesThen check the port forwarding for port 8008:02
alex_21BTW, I can't ssh, scp, afp, or anything to that machine08:02
RurouniJonesYes, probably because you broke the port-forwarding by changing the IP address08:03
alex_21Port forwarding isn't the problem as I can't access it over the LAN either08:03
alex_21I can ping it fine08:03
RurouniJonesChange it back to DHCP and not static and see what that does08:04
alex_21Hi, I can't do that. The comment symbol # is not accessible in vi with ORca08:05
alex_21Also, the eth1 didn't used to be inside the LAN, rather it was directly connected to the internet08:06
RurouniJonesWith an IP address other than 192.168.*.* ?08:07
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YnoRc'è nessuno????08:08
RurouniJones!it | YnoR08:08
ubottuYnoR: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)08:08
YnoRgrazie ubottu08:08
RurouniJonesalex_21: I have a prior appointment I have to go to soon so I won't be able to try and help much longer. Before you made the IP address on eth1 static what was the IP? Was it a 192.16.*.* address?08:12
alex_21No, it was 70.70.*.*08:14
YnoRciao a tutti vado08:15
RurouniJonesalex_21: Ok then, that is the problem.08:16
RurouniJonesyou went from a publicly accessible IP address to an internal LAN-only IP address08:17
RurouniJonesyou will need to change it back to the former IP address, or set it back to DHCP so the DHCP server can do it for you08:18
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alex_21Well, I moved it into the LAN and then port forwarded from my router that has a 70.70.*.* address, so does that not accomplish the same thing08:20
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seektherapycan someone tell me which messenger to use for total encryption on kubuntu08:39
DarkriftXwhat is the "name" for kubuntu 7.10 ?08:43
epimethgutsy gibbon08:43
DarkriftXthx08:45
seektherapywhat about my question08:50
epimethseektherapy: dunno... what do you use elsewhere?08:56
seektherapyI'm using kubuntu08:56
epimethseektherapy: no, what messenger do you use elsewhere09:08
seektherapyI haven't installed a messenger yet09:08
seektherapyI'll be back09:09
thomas__hi09:09
seektherapyok...i just installed the wrong (i think its called this) respiratory or package in adept manager and now it wont start..can someone help me with this09:24
seektherapycrap let me try something09:26
faileasrepository09:28
Danny-The-GreatHello Everybody09:34
JediatNightHi Danny09:34
Danny-The-Greatcan someone help me?09:34
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Danny-The-Greati have a problem after installing ubuntu09:34
Danny-The-Great???09:35
jussi01Danny-The-Great: just tell us the problem :)09:35
Danny-The-Greatok09:35
Danny-The-Greatwell i got 2 hard disk drives on my pc..i have installed windows xp on the first one and ubuntu on the other one,but after installing ubuntu either windows xp or ubuntu cannot recognize the hdd i installed ubuntu in.can someone help?thanks09:36
jussi01Danny-The-Great: so what exactly is happening? it doesnt boot? or?09:36
Danny-The-Greatwell09:37
Danny-The-Greati go to device manager09:37
Danny-The-Greatit shows both the hdd09:37
Danny-The-Greatbut09:37
Danny-The-Greatwhen i go to my pc09:37
lummwindows cant read the ubuntu partition cuz its a different file system09:37
Danny-The-Greati can only see one hdd09:37
lummand visa verse with ubuntu.09:37
jussi01!ext3 | Danny-The-Great09:37
ubottuDanny-The-Great: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org09:37
Kohlrabi!ntfs | Danny-The-Great09:38
ubottuDanny-The-Great: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE09:38
Danny-The-Greatlook...09:38
Danny-The-Greatin the past i had windows xp on both hdds09:38
Danny-The-Greatwhich where ntfs09:38
Danny-The-Greatbut after installing on one of them,pc cannot recognize the hdd that linux was installed in09:39
jussi01Danny-The-Great: you need a driver to access the ubuntu partition from windows - http://www.fs-driver.org09:39
Kohlrabiin BIOS?09:39
Danny-The-Greatno09:39
Danny-The-Greatin bios end device manager09:39
KohlrabiWhat exactlky is "recognize"09:40
Danny-The-Greatpc reads them both succesful09:40
Danny-The-Greatit doesn't see09:40
KohlrabiWhat's a "BIOS end device manager"?09:40
Danny-The-Greate.g.09:40
Danny-The-Greati had 2 hdds09:40
Danny-The-Greatone called C09:40
Danny-The-Greatandthe other called F09:40
Danny-The-Greatbut after installing ubuntu09:40
Danny-The-Greaton F09:41
Danny-The-Greatxp cannot see drive F09:41
Kohlrabibecause you installed Ubuntu on it?09:41
Danny-The-Greatyeap09:41
jussi01Danny-The-Great: exactly! go install the driver I showed you...09:41
Kohlrabiand it's nonexistant now09:41
Kohlrabino "F"09:41
Danny-The-Greatwhich one jussio1?09:41
KohlrabiPlease read up about partitions and filesystems09:41
jussi01http://www.fs-driver.org09:41
Danny-The-Greatty09:42
manishok i am not able to boot into ubuntu because i made some changes.... now its crashing again and again as i try to boot into it ...  please help me boot to ubuntu-desktop... I also tried removing ubuntu-dektop using terminal still there is an entry for gnome in the login screen.. what do i do...?09:43
Danny-The-Greatshould i have to choose enable the read only option on ext2 installer?09:43
Kohlrabiyour choice09:44
Danny-The-GreatLinux Ext3 volumes can also be accessed. To do that, please read the FAQ section.09:44
Danny-The-Greathmmm09:44
manishgenii: can you help me out with that..?09:44
manishDanny-The-Great: ne idea why is it happening09:45
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Danny-The-Greatthis programm is for Ext209:45
bdgraueis there a kde4 webcam viewer somewhere? and i'd like to have a tool to make some snapshots09:45
Danny-The-Greati have ext3 309:45
Danny-The-Great*-309:45
KohlrabiDanny-The-Great: <Kohlrabi> Please read up about partitions and filesystems09:46
Danny-The-Greati haven't got the time09:46
Danny-The-Greatthat's the problem09:46
KohlrabiIf you don't know what you're doing, please don't fiddle with partitions09:46
manishcan ne one please help me boot to GNOME09:46
manishIt crashes when i try to boot into it ... I think it happed after i made a change in system settigns09:46
milos_manish, why you removed ubuntu-desktop?09:46
jussi01bdgraue: vlc can do that iirc09:46
KohlrabiLest you'll blame the people here09:47
bdgrauejussi01: i'll take a look, thx09:47
manishjust to install it all over again ... I thought may be that would help but i think it does not09:47
KohlrabiDanny-The-Great: It's all in the FAQ....09:47
KohlrabiExt 3 = Ext2+journaling09:47
Danny-The-Greatright09:47
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Danny-The-Greati read that09:47
manishmilos: So now how can i boot into gnome again09:47
Kohlrabiso09:47
Danny-The-Greatso09:48
Danny-The-Greati can choose09:48
Danny-The-Greatif i want read only09:48
KohlrabiIf you access Ext3 as Ext2, you can RW, but if it isnt unmounted properly the OS has to check the FS next time09:48
Danny-The-Greatcan i leave it unmark?09:48
Kohlrabiyep09:48
Kohlrabiprobably09:48
Danny-The-Greatyes09:48
Danny-The-Greatbut09:48
Kohlrabiyou can still change your choice later :)09:49
milos_manish, reinstaling is the last option. Could you boot into terminal?09:49
Danny-The-Greatok....ok09:49
Danny-The-Greatgod bless me09:49
Danny-The-Greati have serious factory files on it09:49
manishi can boot into KDE and am chatting with that only as of now09:49
Kohlrabi?09:49
KohlrabiIt's a work HD?09:49
manishmilos: but i want to get back my GNOME as i am more comfortable with that09:49
KohlrabiYou're aware that fs-driver doesn't provide ANY access right facility09:49
Kohlrabimeaning everyone (in Windows) can access all the files on the ext-HD09:50
manishi have reinstalled the ubuntu-desktop now using "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"09:50
manishnow what should i do?09:50
milos_manish, so you want to be able to login in gnome. did you try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop09:51
milos_well than it should work09:52
milos_choose gnome session in login window09:52
manishya right now09:52
manishbtw it was already install untill i messed with my system settings in gnome09:52
Danny-The-Greatok09:53
Danny-The-Greatproblem got solved09:53
Danny-The-Greatthanks09:53
manishmilos: what is happeing is when i choose the gnome session. i crashes and i get back to login screen09:53
manishmilos do u want me to try it once again after the reinstallation of ubuntu-desktop?09:53
milos_wait09:53
manishk09:53
milos_what did you modified in system settings?09:54
milos_do you remember09:54
manishi checked the Zoom desktop ... the second option in system settings09:55
Danny-The-Greatcan someone where can i find linuc drivers for creative x-fi elite pro?09:55
Danny-The-Great*tell me09:55
Danny-The-Great*x09:55
manishsome where i dont recollect... i think there is some problem with that09:55
dutyhi ppl09:55
milos_manish, you changed some compiz settings?09:56
manishyes those too...09:56
manishis that causing the prob09:56
milos_maybe the compiz is making problem09:57
manishi am sorry but i dont recollect what i changed in compiz as i changed many things just to make my system a little bit light09:57
manishso what do i do now ... how do i reset the thig09:57
manishi can access compiz from KDE where i am logged in right now09:57
milos_so if compiz works with KDE it should work also with Gnome09:58
manishok now i remember what did i change in compix09:59
manishit was teh Area Zoom which i enabled09:59
manishnow its disable (atleast that is what it is showing right now ) but still i am not able to login into GNOME09:59
yao_ziyuanbackport and proposed, which is more tested?10:00
milos_you should remove remove ubuntu-desktop with "purge" that removes system settings. Also you can do that with compiz, just in case. So to completely remove it:10:00
milos_manish,  sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop10:00
milos_manish, sudo apt-get purge compiz10:01
manishi am a new bie10:01
manishcan you tell me how do i do that10:01
manishand how do i reinstall it later again10:01
milos_then install it and restart10:01
manishwhich one of the above command do i use10:01
manishif both then in what order and how do i reinstall it10:02
milos_both, first is to completely remove ubuntu-desktop with confs, and other is to remove compiz10:02
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faileasmilos_: he may also need to reinstall his logon manager methinks10:03
milos_faileas, kdm?10:03
faileasmilos_: ya, in case its a problem with that10:03
milos_manish, so do this command to remove these packages: sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop kdm compiz10:05
milos_manish, and this to install it again:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop kdm compiz10:05
milos_than you will hopefully be able to log on to gnome10:06
manishi am already on KDE10:06
manishshould i still run the command as it is showing me some warning10:06
manishsorry to post it here10:07
manish The K Desktop manager (kdm) daemon is typically stopped on package        ?10:07
manish ? upgrade and removal, but it appears to be managing at least one running   ?10:07
manish ? X session.                                                                ?10:07
manish ?                                                                           ?10:07
manish ? If kdm is stopped now, any X sessions it manages will be terminated.      ?10:07
manish ? Otherwise, the new version will take effect the next time the daemon is   ?10:07
manish ? restarted.                                                                ?10:07
manish ?                                                                           ?10:07
milos_manish, http://paste.ubuntu.com10:07
manish ? Stop the kdm daemon?                                                      ?10:07
manish ?                                                                           ?10:07
manish ?                    <Yes>                       <No>                       ?10:07
manish ?10:07
manishok10:07
manishbut now what should ido yes or no10:08
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manishmilos: what should i do " Yes or no"10:09
milos_the problem is that you are removing some packages which are running currently10:09
milos_wait sec10:09
manishk, so that is the reason i am asking you whether i should fo ahead and how will i install ubuntu desktop and kde again if i dont have any of the desktops10:10
faileasmanish: from CLI10:10
milos_faileas, manish I think he should boot in to recovery mode10:11
milos_and then to these two commands10:11
manishsorry......10:11
faileaslinux dosen't need a gui after all, and even when you're on KDE or gnome control alternate F(1-6) will throw you into a command line10:11
faileasmost newbies don't relalise it ;p10:11
faileasmilos_: no need for recovery mode10:12
milos_faileas, ok then ctrl-alt-f1 and do these two commands10:12
faileasya10:12
manishso please tell me now wht am i supposed to do10:13
milos_manish, write these two commands somewhere:10:13
manishwhich10:14
milos_1. sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop kdm compiz10:14
milos_2. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop kdm compiz10:14
manishand then...10:15
milos_manish, so you need press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and enter first command.10:15
milos_manish, after that is completed enter second command10:15
mikkisto do what?10:15
manishthen everything will be restored ???10:16
mikkisi'm interested too10:16
milos_if it asks you with warning just answer yes10:16
manishand then how do i logout and enter the gui10:16
manishk10:16
milos_to go back to gui Ctrl+Alt+F710:17
milos_than you should reboot and choose gnome from login manager10:17
manishok so i am going to boom10:17
manishnow10:17
manishthanks ya guys10:17
milos_ok, and cross fingers :)10:18
manishhey there was some problem10:20
milos_what prob10:20
manishit says dpkg was inturrupte you need to run --configure -somethign manually10:20
manishsomething like that10:20
manishwhat was that problem...?10:21
milos_probably the something wants installed correctly and dpkg is complaining now10:22
milos_wasn't10:22
manishso do u want me to jot down the error exactly "as it is " and tell you10:23
milos_you got that output when running first command right?10:23
manishya10:23
milos_yeah, run that command in konsole and paste it http://paste.ubuntu.com and put link here10:24
manishhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/78239/10:25
manishhow do you guys learn so much of command line commands10:26
milos_try sudo dpkg --configure -a10:26
manishi just wonder... is it the same way i am learning now10:26
milos_manish, yup10:26
milos_and we read manuals10:27
manishnothing happened10:27
manishk10:27
manishnw wht10:27
jussi01manish: nothing at all?10:28
manishnope10:28
jussi01no out put whatsoever?10:28
manishabsolutelynothing10:28
jussi01manish: try: sudo apt-get install -f10:28
jussi01manish: and pastebin whatever output you have10:29
manishnothing10:30
jussi01show me ;)10:30
manishis it that may be i hv purged compiz n ubuntu-desktop already10:30
jussi01that command gives output...10:30
milos_that ok. try now again Ctrl+alt+F1 and first command.10:30
Larsonguys, I've having issues with kdenetworkmanager using 100+mb ram...I've asked on #kde and it seems to be a kubuntu issue. Known?10:35
floownhello10:38
floownwhat is the alternative to "babel" for translation strings?10:39
milos_floown, poedit10:39
floownmilos_: for KDE10:40
floownin QT10:40
milos_floown, yes i think is't kde10:40
milos_is10:40
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milos_Larson, kdenetworkmanager didn't work with wpa2 in my case aslo. I replaced it with network-manager-gnome10:42
Larsonmilos_: hm..ok.. but then I need to pull in all of gnome I guess.. I'd like to avoid that10:43
milos_Larson, it's a bit ugly but it works10:43
MrDarkUserhi, I'm just about going insane, I'm doing a find command to find files that I want to copy, I also want to keep the path intact... and I want just those files and the part of the path to be represented in the backup10:44
manishmilos: still the same problem10:44
manishi am not able to enter gnome10:44
manishalthough i set GDM as the default DM when asked10:44
manishwhile removing it said something that it was not able to remove because the directory was not empty . I think one of the things was themes and teh other i dont remember10:45
MrDarkUserNow, I've gotten the bash script to say cp --parents /file/that/I/want/in/path/filename.txt to /dest/path/filename.txt10:45
jpnurmihow do i install kde3 versions of kate, konsole, kile etc. in ubuntu intrepid?10:45
manishi am not even able to boot into failsafe gnome. thisoption was not there earlier by this name10:46
manishmilos: u there...?10:46
milos_manish, i'm thiking10:46
manishmilo: will i have to reformat the complete thing... PLease dont say "YES"10:46
milos_manish, not yet10:47
manishTHANKYOU for your compliance    :)10:47
Larsonmilos_: this bug needs to be fixed though. Do you know where I should report it?10:47
MrDarkUserbut it turns out that --parents requires only directories!!!! it can't have the filename!!!  I don't have the path, I only have the complete filename.  I need to somehow  strip out just the path.  any hints?10:48
milos_manish, now you should remove compiz, reboot and see if that helps10:48
manishhow...?10:48
MrDarkUserLarson: launchpad?10:48
manishsudo apt-get purge compiz...?10:48
milos_manish, try in login manager Ctrl+Alt+F1 and sudo ... yes10:49
milos_then reboot10:49
LarsonMrDarkUser: launchpad?10:49
Larsonplease excuse my ignorenance...:)10:49
Larsonignorance even...10:50
ptlkommander is way cool, man. Thanks to it I was able to make my phylogeny analysis program graphic in a very quick fashion.10:50
milos_Larson, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager but search little before, maybe is reported10:51
manishi am not able to login into the login manager now (ctl alt F1) it shows a black screen with a blue band10:51
Larsonalright, thanks10:51
milos_manish, in session choose Failsafe or something like that and log in10:52
milos_manish, you should get some kind of terminal10:52
manishmilos: now what s next10:52
milos_manish, sudo apt-get remove compiz10:53
jussi01I have a HP 6715b with a fingerprint reader. I can get it to display the fingerprint with aes2501, however does anyone know if its possible to get to use it to login and/or use it instead of entering my sudo password?10:54
manishdone ... now reboot..?10:55
milos_manish, yeah10:55
manishwill be back10:55
milos_ok10:55
manishmilos, even though  i removed compiz i can see compiz fusion icon and compiz settings manager in my menu and yes for the boot into gnome i was unsuccessful11:01
manishlike every time i went till the wall paper stayed there for half a second or so and then crash ...11:02
manishi think compiz icon and compiz settings manager isnot yet removed11:02
manishshould i remove every thing related to compiz from synaptic11:03
manishmilos u thr...?11:04
milos_manish, you can remove that but I don't thik that is causing problems. Try it.11:04
milos_manish, i don't know what else can cause problem11:05
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manishsee i tell you the exact thing that i see when i enter gnome11:07
manishok?11:07
milos_where you enter gnome11:07
manishi enter my username and password then change sessions and then11:07
manishenter11:08
milos_ok11:08
manishafter that i see a orange screen then soem colors flash in the screen with black background11:08
manishi see my wass paper for an instance and then again things go black and then in a few seconds i land up at the login page again11:09
manishthe same thing happens with gnome failsafe11:09
manishnow every thing related to compiz is removed accept the awn navigator11:10
manishnow should i try to go back to gnome ... till that time you think what could be the problem .. if it is still not solved... what say...?11:11
manishmilos, should i log out and check ..?11:11
milos_manish, the problem is I don't know what is causing problem. maybe is Metacity or something else11:12
manishbut i did not do any thing to metacity atleast conciously11:12
manishi will give it a try ... will join you in a moment11:13
milos_manish, ok11:13
manishi am into my gnome now11:16
manishhows that dude ... thanks so much for help11:16
manishbut there is a little problem i guess11:16
Jaxxonhi I have ubuntu 8.10 with gnome, how can I install kde with kubuntu cd11:16
milos_manish, what11:16
manishmy awn navigator is not working11:16
milos_manish, awn can't work without compiz11:17
UnksiJaxxon: if you want to install kde alongside with gnome, just do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or install kubuntu-desktop from synaptic11:17
JaxxonUnksi: I know this, but I want install it from cd11:17
Unksiyou could try adding the cd as a repo11:18
JaxxonUnksi: how can I do this?11:18
milos_manish, you can try to install compiz but you can fall again in troubles11:18
milos_i don't know, not sure what was the problem11:19
milos_manish, you can try to install compiz and if you can't logon in Gnome, then you need to remove it again11:19
milos_manish, that's you decision11:20
milos_your11:20
UnksiJaxxon: try putting your cd in to the drive and do 'sudo apt-cdrom add'11:20
JaxxonUnksi: ok tnx11:21
Unksiyw11:21
Unksiyou still have to install the kubuntu-desktop after that, though^ :)11:22
Lindowslol, another person switching from ubuntu -> kubuntu11:22
Lindowsnice11:23
LindowsRIP gnome11:23
Unksi:)11:23
manish_milos  u thr...?11:23
milos_Lindows, one just came back to gnome11:23
milos_yup11:23
Unksikde rocks :P11:23
manish_i compiled OO.o3 yesterday from RPM ... but it keeps on crashing and recovering and then crashing again11:24
manish_ne Idea...?11:24
milos_manish_, you don't install from rpm on ubuntu11:25
manish_ya...?11:25
Unksithere is a ppa for ooo311:25
manish_i compiled it with the help of a person here ...11:25
manish_using alien11:25
Unksideb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main11:25
milos_manish_, if you compiled it, than it was source, not RPM11:25
Unksiadd that one and you can install it with apt, works a lot better11:25
manish_ya and so should i delete the folder from opt/OO311:26
milos_manish_, don't use alien, that can srew you system11:26
milos_manish_, use something like this deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main11:26
milos_if you can't wait till package come in main repository11:27
milos_manish_, so you add: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main11:28
milos_in your /etc/apt/sources.lst11:28
milos_in your /etc/apt/sources.list11:28
manish_and add this ppa in my repos11:29
manish_i got the rpm version by mistake so this guy helped me out11:29
milos_manish_, if it work fine than you don't need to remove it11:29
milos_*works11:30
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azodiego ciao atutti come faccio ad andare nella chat italiana11:31
jussi01!it11:31
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)11:31
JaxxonUnksi: I have dvd rom, so I should to use apt-cdrom add or apt-dvdrom add?11:32
manish_that line is already there in my sources list11:32
manish_but by default i am getting OO 2.4 and not 3.011:32
manish_so how do i make it work for me11:32
manish_thanks for that correction11:32
milos_Jaxxon, , apt-cdrom11:32
manish_so wht do you suggest11:33
Jaxxontnx milos_11:33
manish_first should i remove the OO3 folder from opt directory11:33
milos_manish_, if 3.0 works fine, you don't need anything to change. What do you want? Go back to 2.4?11:34
manish_no i want 3.0 but it is not working11:34
manish_i compiled it yesterday form RPM11:34
manish_but the 2.4 version i got it from the repos11:34
manish_now how do i upgrade it to 3.0 from the repos11:35
milos_manish_, then remove it with synaptic.11:35
manish_what the 3.0 thing11:35
manish_but how would i find it in synaptic when i did not get it from synaptic11:36
manish_or do you want me to remove the 2.4 one11:36
manish_c let me explaing it to you11:36
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milos_manish_, alien make .deb files and you use synaptic to manipulate deb files. You can use synaptic, apt-get or aptitude or dpkg to do same thing11:37
manish_i have 2.4 installed from synaptic ok...? and it works fine .. then i installed 3.0 from the RPM yesterday and it keeps on crashing ... Now i want to have 3.0 that atleast works for me so now tell me how do i go about it11:37
manish_sorry i did not understand you ... can you please be little less techi...11:38
manish_so where is the deb file that alien created .. when i run it last night11:38
milos_manish_, first go to synaptic and remove every openoffice package11:38
manish_ok boss11:38
jussi01alien! bleh!!!11:39
manish_done11:39
jussi01there is a ppa with oOo 3.0 in it!!11:39
manish_and from the opt directory also11:39
manish_??/11:39
milos_manish_, after that add: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main11:39
milos_manish_, just forget opt11:39
manish_already added11:39
manish_k11:39
milos_ok11:39
milos_then when click reload button in synaptic11:40
manish_ok11:40
manish_done11:40
milos_manish_,  and you should be able to find openoffice 3.011:40
milos_and install it11:40
manish_in the synaptic11:41
milos_yeah11:41
milos_everything in synaptic11:41
manish_exactly by this name... openoffice3.011:43
manish_there isnothing like that11:43
erythrocytehi, can someone tell me if the new Powersave app has anything to do with Power Policy Manager from Intel and if it doesn't, are there plans to integrate it somehow into Kubuntu?11:43
erythrocytehi, can someone tell me if the new Powerdevil app has anything to do with Power Policy Manager from Intel and if it doesn't, are there plans to integrate it somehow into Kubuntu?11:43
manish_there are openoffice3-writer openoffice-impress openoffice-math but nothing like openoffice3.011:44
erythrocyteIntel's PPM website is at http://lesswatts.org/projects/power-policy/11:44
milos_manish_, install openoffice3-writer11:44
manish_tell me the components that i need to install11:45
milos_manish_, you should search for openoffice and look in Latest Version column for 3.011:45
manish_if there is any thing without 3 tag on to it then i need not install it right....?11:45
milos_manish_, it isn't simple like that11:47
manish_ok11:47
manish_wait i will be right back11:47
milos_manish_, for example I have 1:2.4.1-11ubuntu4 so this is 2.4.1 version. You should figure out something similar for 3.011:48
mahdi#linnuxac11:55
Radar!ask11:55
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)11:55
RadarInteresting.11:55
blue_hi everyone11:58
blue_total newbie here11:58
blue_just installed ubuntu 8.10 32 bit on my AMD X2 64 bit 3800 PC11:59
blue_all working, but i have a question11:59
blue_the system seems very sluggish, and the cpu load in system monitor is always around 50%, even with nothing being done12:00
RurouniJonesYou installed #ubuntu or #kubuntu?12:00
blue_when i do 2 things at a time, e.g. talk on skype, and watch a movie, the movie runs in slow motion12:00
blue_ubuntu12:00
RurouniJonesOk, that is an abnormal situation for usre12:00
RurouniJonesask in #ubuntu, it may ge a gnome issue12:01
blue_ok, thanks12:01
ubuntu_hola12:06
ghostcubehi i got a problem with enemy territory and kubuntu 8.10 x64  it claims it cant open /dev/dsp cause of beeing in use12:09
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manishmilo  now i have removed every openoffice component from my computer and now how do i install open office 3 from repos. i have added the repo you told me to add in the sources.list12:10
ghostcubehmm ok now after closing all audio apps it tells me it cant map /dev/dsp12:10
milos_manish_, for example I have 1:2.4.1-11ubuntu4 so this is 2.4.1 version. You should figure out something similar for 3.012:10
manishmilos_ now i have removed every openoffice component from my computer and now how do i install open office 3 from repos. i have added the repo you told me to add in the sources.list12:10
ghostcubeiam on an intel hda card everything else working fine but i dont get the prob here12:11
manishi had been doing the same for this long nothing of that sort12:11
kaminixWhat's a good LaTeX editor for KDE?12:11
milos_manish, wait sec12:12
manishk12:13
massimo_hi, I need help with usb wireless stick Ub11b12:14
massimo_wired connection works, wifi don't, but changing the usb stick no problem at all12:14
massimo_is there anyone willing to help12:15
manishmilos you done with your work..?12:15
massimo_no one helping12:16
massimo_??12:16
milos_manish_, wait please, i am testing on my macihne12:16
manishk12:16
manishsorry12:16
knpnichi. How do I create an application shortcut on kubuntu with kde 4.1?12:18
manishknpnic where do you want to create the shortcu12:19
knpnicon the desktop and/or on the bar on the bottom of the screen12:20
knpnicused to be no problem with previous versions, but now I can't find that item in the menues.12:21
manishjust type the name of the app after clicking on the menu button and the app would appear12:22
manishknpnic does that solve your problem.12:22
knpnicoh and then you can rightclik it and ask it to end u on thedesktop or the panel. Ok. Thanks!12:23
Lupus-SLEAhhh... morning #kubuntu , the support channel o champions!12:24
manishmilos did you find any thing worth while12:24
milos_manish, nope12:24
Lupus-SLEHey guise! has anybody been having issues with the restricted hardware manager as of late?12:25
ubuntu_can any body  help me12:26
Lupus-SLEJust me then?12:26
ubuntu_????12:26
Lupus-SLEubuntu_: Yes, bus drivers, therapists, nerds, we all can help you!12:26
xray7224what would you like help with12:27
ubuntu_i m not able to acces pages on my browser12:27
xray7224any pages ?12:27
ubuntu_it is showing http error12:27
ubuntu_ya all pages12:27
Lupus-SLEubuntu_: That's serious... call the OR! Sorry I'm feeling unecesarrilly jolly today... what brwoser is it?12:28
xray7224can you try to ping 66.249.70.10112:28
milos_manish, sorry can't find it. Install regular 2.4 version until you find 3.012:28
ubuntu_konqueror12:28
xray7224i dont know how you would get on irc without your connection working right12:28
xray7224but anyway12:28
manishmilos so what is your suggestion what should i be doing to get OO 312:29
ubuntu_ya its doing well12:29
Lupus-SLEubuntu_: Do you use any form of proxy?12:29
manishmilo if i download a deb file and install it that way  will i be able to get updates via repos12:29
milos_manish, wait sec12:29
manishgot ya12:30
ubuntu_i get retno i am running on a live cd12:30
Lupus-SLEubuntu_: Whack konsole open and sudo apt-get install firefox12:31
Lupus-SLEPost your results12:31
manishmilo, u got something or a hint of something that can be done....12:33
ubuntu_it is downloading it12:33
ubuntu_but i have tired it firefox in fed 912:33
ubuntu_it did nt work for me12:34
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levidosi'm searching for a vnc viewer with repeater support. please help12:35
milos_manish, nope, didn't find anything. You should probably try to find another repository12:36
manishlike... on google i have spent days not hours then only i am asking you experts12:36
manishmilos ne ways last thing what compiz things will i have to isntall to have my awn working12:40
milos_manish, you can always compile it from source. But that can be very hard. Yes avant don't work without compiz12:41
manishso i installed a part of compiz but still its not working do you have any idea what i need to install to make it work12:43
milos_manish, about office3 https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive The problem was that packages were pulled off because of some problems12:43
manishok so now what is the option12:44
Dillizardoes any body know where can i find MEEBO12:44
milos_manish, wait until someone upload packages or compile from source12:44
manishmeebo.com12:45
manishk and about awn12:45
milos_manish, install compiz, compiz-gnome12:45
levidosi'm searching for a vnc viewer with repeater support. please help12:45
milos_manish, just sudo apt-get install compiz12:47
milos_manish, I must go now12:47
manishok have a nice time milos and thanks for the help12:51
milos_manish, you welcome12:51
levidosi'm searching for a vnc viewer with repeater support. any suggestions?12:55
voicuHi, is there a way to disable all the transparent stuff in kde413:02
voicufor example to make the desktop opaque13:02
voicuand all the widgets without translucency13:02
voicuI like all those effects but they're too cpu expensive13:03
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voicuI dunno, KDE4 is really cool but there is a tiny delay between the click and the action it does, for example kopete and the tooltip with the away message13:07
bdgrauevoicu: what cpu do you have, that the effects might be to heavy? i have an netbook with intel atom over here and very low cpu usage13:07
voicuis this happening to anyone else?13:08
voicubdgraue: same here13:08
bdgrauewhich one?13:08
voicui was referring to what i said just before you responded13:08
voicun270 i think13:08
bdgrauewhich netbook?13:08
voicuit's a magway something13:09
bdgrauei have no problem with the effects, all smooth and fast13:09
bdgraueits better then with my desctop and nvidia card13:09
voicuyeah, the effects are ok but some renderings are visibly delayeed13:09
voicuwhen i restore a window13:10
voicuyou can see for a split second the drawing of the borders and stuff13:10
voicuon kde3 it wasn't like that13:10
voicuor konversation takes about 0.5seconds to redraw itself when restoring it13:12
voicualmost a second actually13:12
bdgraueyes, that need some milliseconds13:12
voicualso, how do i put the desktop back?13:14
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versuchsanstalti am trying to set up xorg on a yukky laptop with an unichrome gfx card but i can not change the resolution to anything usable. what13:22
versuchsanstaltwhat is the easiest whay to create the correct modelines?13:22
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Walex2versuchsanstalt: just search for them on the web.13:43
wesley_why doesnt work the Desktop effects plugin in kubuntu 8.0413:43
Walex2versuchsanstalt: e.g. http://www.sabi.co.uk/Cfg/X11/13:43
versuchsanstaltWalex2: ah, i see13:43
versuchsanstaltthanks for the hint13:43
Walex2versuchsanstalt: else use the 'gtf' command line util13:43
versuchsanstaltgreat13:44
loicmarteauHello, im using kde compiled from trunk and i never get worked the mount of usb device properly13:45
loicmarteaui get some erros with hal13:45
loicmarteauwho deni the access13:45
loicmarteauanyone know what to do with that ?13:45
siekaczhi13:46
versuchsanstaltWalex2: yeah, i was looking for something like gtf. thank you.13:46
siekaczare there any packages of KDE 4.2 beta 1 for (K)Ubuntu?13:46
josephciao13:47
xp-killerhow to install a .sf file?13:47
bazhang!it | joseph13:48
ubottujoseph: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)13:48
sedekiHow can I set default browser to firefox?13:50
xp-killersedeki: it didnt ask u if u wanted to put as default?13:51
sedekixp-killer: hum no13:54
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_S4MUR4I_hi there o/13:56
_S4MUR4I_a question: how can i load an subtitle when i'm playing a movie in dragon player (sub in .str, same name of the movie)? Anyway, thank's for listening my question, dear reader (insert your nick here)!13:59
zerwasWhat's the best way to install the latest KDE 4.1 in Ubuntu 8.10?14:00
loganWHDi followed many of the links you all gave me and got my sound working in 8.1014:00
loganWHDanyhow, got my settings good and then i set up a windows VM for some programs i must run in win..... all is good... it is running in both... then i have to reboot... and bam14:00
loganWHDall sound stops working14:00
loganWHDand it is not muted14:00
loganWHDall sound stops working14:00
loganWHDany ideas?14:00
Unksizerwas: install kubuntu-desktop from synaptic14:01
xp-killerloganWHD:  u had sound from befor?14:01
loganWHDi did14:01
xp-killerloganWHD: how u lose your sound?14:02
loganWHDi follow the links some f you guys gave me and it worked14:02
loganWHDall was good14:02
xp-killerloganWHD: then?14:02
loganWHDthen i installed my XP VM in VMWare Workstation14:02
zerwasUnksi> no ppa or anything i should use to get the latest version?14:02
loganWHDopened that up14:02
loganWHDand it was working in that too14:02
loganWHDthen no error... or anything14:02
loganWHDbut it just stopped14:02
loganWHDin the VM and in Kubuntu14:02
stdinzerwas: 4.1.3 is in intrepid-backports14:03
Unksizerwas: you might need to enable backports14:03
zerwasi found a ppa with 4.1.3 and will use that.14:03
stdinzerwas: why? when it's in the repos?14:04
zerwas173 packages14:04
zerwasstdin> i don't want backports to be enabled for the rest of my system and i don't think i can only enable backports for KDE 414:04
stdinzerwas: enable backports, install the kde4 updates then disable backports14:05
stdinyou should only use a PPA from a trusted party, you have no clue what may be in those packages14:05
zerwasstdin> i know it's "dangerous" to enable a PPA. now it's too late14:05
xp-killerlol14:06
xp-killerlinux killer14:06
xp-killerstdin: i try instalin TwonkyMedia sever with wine it install but seems not to work so i look how to install it on linux but dont understand http://www.twonkyvision.de/Download/TwonkyMedia/14:09
xp-killerstdin: it came with a .sh file :s14:10
stdinxp-killer: why are you asking me directly?14:10
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stdinyou know you should ask the channel rather than just me14:10
xp-killercauses i ask from befor no one answer me so u seen to know a good bit14:11
stdindownload the .sh and run it14:11
stdin"bash twonkymedia-i386-glibc-2.2.5-20081002.sh"14:11
xp-killerstdin: i did download it and double click it and it open in kate as a text14:11
stdinopen konsole and put in "bash twonkymedia-i386-glibc-2.2.5-20081002.sh", if you downloaded it to your home dir14:12
stdinelse cd to the download dir and type in the command14:12
xp-killerstdin: it on my desktop14:12
stdinthe "cd Desktop" then "bash twonkymedia-i386-glibc-2.2.5-20081002.sh"14:13
stdinthat should start the setup14:13
xp-killerstdin: a msg pop up and told me "mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/TwonkyVision': Permission denied"14:15
stdinxp-killer: so it needs to be ran as root. "sudo bash twonkymedia-i386-glibc-2.2.5-20081002.sh"14:15
hsystemHi, i have a question, how the h*** i can get compiz fusion to work on 8.10. I had installed the neccesary packages. Cube doesnt work...14:15
stdin!cube14:16
ubottuCompiz-Fusion (and the older Compiz and Beryl) are window managers that employ the "composite" extension of X to draw windows using graphics cards' 3D hardware. They can additionally provide "desktop special effects" (such as the "cube") by means of plug-ins. Join #compiz-fusion for help and support with advanced features. See also « /msg ubotu compiz » and « /msg ubotu effects »14:16
hsystemthx14:17
xp-killerstdin: ok it look like it install how im i sopose to run it now?14:17
hsystemAnybody running compiz with kde4?14:19
xp-killerstdin: the .sh file was just a script no?14:19
stdinxp-killer: the .sh was an installer, I see on the page there is download for the installation guide14:20
xp-killerstdin: its nowhere in my Kmenu14:21
stdin"To start the server manually, either invoke it manually in the installation directory, or invoke it14:22
stdinwith the start script twonkymedia.sh. The script will first look for an installation in14:22
stdin/usr/local/TwonkyVision and then in the directory where the script itself is installed."14:22
stdinread the guide maybe?14:22
douglas_anyone can assit me to get nvidia geforce 8400mG driver for ubuntu 8 1014:33
ghostcubehi i got a problem with enemy territory and kubuntu 8.10 x64  it claims it cant mmap /dev/dsp cause of beeing in use this workaround helps but why is this needed anyone an idea sudo killall artsd sudo -iecho "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss exit et14:34
ghostcubedouglas_, isnt the 177.80 driver working with this one ?14:35
SlimeyPeteghostcube: presumably it's needed because ET was written to use OSS instead of ALSA14:36
SlimeyPetewhich has been a source of problems ever since it was released, really14:36
ghostcubeSlimeyPete, hmm yeah it worked fine until i build my new pc and here i have an intel onboard hda and before it was an soundblaster live 1024 is there any change or alsa package needed to get this working like on 8.0414:37
SlimeyPeteghostcube: no idea, sorry - haven't played ET in a while.14:39
ghostcubehmm ok :)14:40
hsystemalt + f2 doesnt seems to work. (Launch program)14:41
hsystemin 8.1014:41
ghostcubehsystem, hmm i noticed this too but thats not for long now14:46
hsystemhow do i launch a command but i dont the terminal window to stay.. forced there14:46
hsystemdont want*14:46
ghostcubecommand & disown14:47
hsystemexplain... pls14:47
ghostcubekate & disown   into terminal14:47
hsystemadd disown ???14:47
hsystemok14:47
hsystemnice !14:48
hsystemehm and why after update it appears double progress bar at boot.14:49
hsystemguess because kernel update?14:50
jnw222happens14:50
hsystemehm, i know it happens, How do i fix that? replace that image or?14:50
radovichhello14:52
BluesKajhowdy14:53
radovichi need help: which package should bring me the left click shortcut in konqueror for ark to "extract here" and not only "extract to"14:53
radovichhow are you BluesKaj?14:53
ghostcubeSlimeyPete, i got the fix14:54
ghostcubeand it is sooooo simple lol i just found it14:54
ghostcubedpkg -l alsa*  i was missing alsa-oss14:54
BluesKajhi radovich , I'm just fine and you ?14:55
ReptileHow many of u uses firewall and if yes, which package ?14:55
radovichfine... drinking coffee with me sister14:55
radovich:)14:55
ghostcubeReptile, u can try the ufw gui for the iüptables u already have14:56
radovichanyone knows whick package provides this konqueror shortcut for ark?15:00
radovich*which15:00
matissewhy does konqueror change file type handling for every ending (.txt .tex .footext, etc.) if I just want to connect .tex with kile ?15:02
matisseevery ending = "simple text" files15:04
hsystem!compiz15:07
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion15:07
BluesKajradovich, not sure radovich , konq/file associations/inode/directory?...I'm not sure about this suggestion but you try it15:08
BluesKajcan try it15:08
sancho21__Is it true that, we can not keep our configurations and changes in usb-drive ubuntu? It just looks like live cd ubuntu.15:09
sancho21__Except we install it using usual way and targeting it to the usb15:10
radovichthank you very much!15:10
BluesKaj!woof15:11
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about woof15:11
BluesKaj!info Woof15:11
ubottuPackage Woof does not exist in intrepid15:11
oimhi ı have been installed picasa 3. then ı delete picasa package. now i cant open any package manager. is there any way to clean package sources15:25
oimthis is what ı see when try to open adept http://paste.ubuntu.com/78295/15:26
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voicuthis might not be kubuntu-related but my network connection keeps going from fast to really slow (on LAN). i'm transferring files between my computers and some connections have 3-4mb/s while others 100kb/s15:27
voicucan this be a problem caused by network-manager?15:28
voicuit seemed to go better when i removed it15:28
francisc1701oim: read this: http://www.ubuntux.org/synaptic-sudden-reboot-exclusive-lock-problem15:37
oimfrancisc1701: thanks15:37
francisc1701oim: no problem15:37
oimhow to open file manageras root15:46
avaregksudo name of file managers15:46
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sedekiHow can I clear packages that isn't being used anymore?15:47
faileassedeki: apt-get autoremove i think15:48
sedekiyes15:49
sedekithanks!15:49
oimthanks to every one15:49
faileasapt-get autoclean would take care of saved packages as well15:49
sedekifaileas: how does it determine what isnt being used?15:50
faileassedeki: thats what dependancy management is for15:51
joselitohola15:58
joselitotengo un problema, y esq no tengo sonido en el kubuntu 8.1015:59
joselitoalguien me podria ayudar?15:59
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joselitoalguien me puede ayudar a pner el sonido en el kubunut?????????????????16:00
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faileas!es16:02
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.16:02
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joselitohi16:02
joselitoalguien puede ayudarme16:03
LokiaseHello. In windows I can access and write to a shared folder in MyBook World Edition (after giving username and psw) . In kubuntu I can access the shared folder but not write in it. What is wrong, who can help me???16:03
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joselitohola, no tengo sonido desde que instale el 8.1016:04
dr_willisLokiase,  if its NTFS filesystem you need to mountit properly with the  ntfs-3g tools to have full access to it.16:05
_gunni_!es joselito16:05
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about es joselito16:05
faileasLokiase: probably incorrect permissions on the server side16:05
dr_willis!ntfs-3g16:05
ubottuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions16:05
_gunni_!es16:05
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.16:05
Lokiasedr_willis and faileas, can you hep me step by step...?16:05
dr_willisLokiase,  this could be done by installing/running the ' ntfs-config ' tool., or by manually editing the /etc/fstab16:05
Lokiasedr_willes, shorter steps :p16:06
joselitohola16:06
dr_willisLokiase,  so i would check that url, and download/install the ntfs-config tool.16:06
joselitoalguien puede ayudarme?16:06
dr_willisand run it.16:06
dr_willisa few clicks and it should be setup16:06
joselitono tengo sonido en el 8,1'16:06
Lokiasedr_willis, you are going too fast for me :s16:06
Lokiaseits a NAS, the Mybook16:07
LokiaseI can find it under samba16:07
Lokiaseaccess it16:07
Lokiasebut not write on it16:07
Lokiaseand in windows I can16:07
hsystemthe Now Playing widget doesnt work??? with amarok?16:07
dr_willisYou mean its not a USB drive? If its a samba share - then you need to set up the proper permissions then on the server I imagine.16:07
hsystemusing kde416:07
Lokiasedr_willis, how?:s16:07
joselitospeak spanih??????16:08
dr_willisNo idea. i dont have one of those drives..i would check their docs/config tools for that drive.16:08
Lokiasethey don't support Linux... but the NAS is linux, strange:)16:08
bazhang!es16:08
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.16:08
dr_willisLokiase,  check the forums/google for info on the thing I guess. the one NDAS drive i have  requires special drivers.. its not a 'samba' server..16:08
dr_willisIt might support NFS if you are lucky16:09
LokiaseI checked but too difficult for me16:09
dr_willisGuess ya got some learning to do then. Or get lucky and find a forum/site with more detailed info.16:09
matissewhy does konqueror change file type handling for every "simple text" (.txt etc.) if I just want to connect .tex with kile ?16:09
faileasLokiase: then its probably using samba, and you don't have permissiond on how to use it16:10
dr_willisLokiase,   its possible you may be able to manually mount the share, and give the proper user/password to it from the command line.16:10
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BERK-selamlar.16:12
Lokiasedr_willis, how do I mount it manually?16:14
rolandproblem with kde... enabled some sort of desktop effects in system settings.. and now nothing appears after login16:28
rolandhow can i disable them through console16:28
BluesKajroland , no desktop?16:30
rolandlogin screen appears.. but after logging in... everything disappears16:31
BluesKajare you on the TTY ?16:32
rolandwhat\s the tty?16:32
BluesKajlike the terminal /shell16:33
rolandi\m on a live cd right now..16:33
BluesKajok16:33
rolandi\ll get another laptop16:33
rolandso i can be online & fix at the same time16:34
BluesKajroland , in the terminal:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg16:35
BluesKajit will ask you if you want to fix "X" , click yes16:36
BluesKajthe Xserver actually16:36
_gunni_roland: wait a minute, i ll have a look for the file16:37
rolandcrappy vista machine has trouble booting anyway16:37
slow-motionhi16:38
untiledhi, someone know how to configure connection on my desktop? i know adsl username and password but i don't know hw to configure it16:38
_gunni_roland: .kde/share/config/kwinrc16:38
Jaxxonhi I have added the kubuntu 8.10 cd rom to my repo, but when I run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop it wants to download it from internet, I want to install kde from cd rom16:40
_gunni_Jaxxon:16:40
_gunni_I think its because the packages in the online repos are newer, maybe if you comment all online repos it works?16:41
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douglsorry if repeating...16:42
douglI have installed klikit linux (customized kubuntu from my understanding) is this a good place to discuss that distro?16:42
BluesKajdougl, never heard of it16:42
RurouniJonesdougl: This is for the KDE version of ubuntu so probably not16:43
BluesKaj!klikit linux16:43
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about klikit linux16:43
RurouniJones#kde might be able to help16:43
RurouniJonesFor KDE related questions anyway16:43
RurouniJoneshmm, it is based on kubuntu so people might be able to help here I suppose.16:44
rotHi16:44
rothow can i make my computer run as like server16:44
RurouniJonesThat is such an open ended question you are unlikely to get an answer16:45
RurouniJonesGive us eamples of what you mean. No GUI? Minimal package installation?16:45
hsystemHi, question, why i cant get cpu and hdd temperature. yes i installed hddtemp lm_sensors, etc.16:46
RurouniJonesrot: I am guessing but this is probably what you want http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition16:46
hsystemand also done sensors-detect16:46
douglk - thanks :)16:47
rotyeah but i have kubuntu i16:47
RurouniJonesIf you are going without a GUI then it makes no difference16:48
Jaxxon_gunni_: I have commented all the online repos, but it doesn't work too16:48
_gunni_Jaxxon: No more idea on my side16:48
DeizJaxxon: Have you done an apt-get update?16:50
JaxxonDeiz: I have added the kubuntu 8.10 cd rom to my repo, but when I run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop it wants to download it from internet, I want to install kde from cd rom16:50
DeizJaxxon: Do an apt-get update to sync the repo list.16:51
JaxxonDeiz: I do this, but it doesn't work too16:51
DeizWhat does it output?16:51
JaxxonDeiz: http://phpfi.com/38371916:52
DeizWhat's the exact command you're inputting?16:52
JaxxonDeiz: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop16:53
DeizIf you do "apt-get update && apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" it should work.16:53
DeizAs the CD repo definitely contains kubuntu-desktop as a meta-package16:53
JaxxonDeiz: it doesn't work, the cd is kubuntu 8.1016:55
yankus.16:58
TheFuzzball..16:58
yankusработает16:58
yankusчто-то16:58
TheFuzzballEnglish please.16:59
yankusthank you16:59
DeizJaxxon: Can you install anything from the CD, or is always not found?16:59
Nece228when there gonna be kde 4.2 beta packages for intrepid?16:59
JaxxonDeiz: I don't examine it17:00
DeizI suggest trying to refresh the package list with a graphical package manager, like Adept.17:01
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Roland123_gunni_: i changed the kwinrc file, how do i get back to kde login screen?17:05
Roland123ctrl+shift+delete doesn't seem to work17:05
_gunni_Roland123: Are you in a terminal?17:05
Roland123k, i accidentally rebooted the system17:06
_gunni_And where are you now?17:06
Roland123booting up...17:06
Roland123@ the login  screen17:06
_gunni_So hope it works now ...17:07
Nece228when there gonna be kde 4.2 beta packages for intrepid?17:07
_gunni_Nece228: Maybe you can try nighly packages17:07
_gunni_!neon17:07
ubottuThe Neon Project provides daily Amarok and KDE 4 trunk builds as packages for Kubuntu | See http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon and http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon/KDE for more17:07
Nece228_gunni_ thanks mate, ill try that!17:07
Roland123wow... back in  kde17:08
TheFuzzballMy apt is broken! :'(17:09
Roland123i still have some problems... like i can't enable nvidia drivers17:09
Roland123after install.. i got the option to enable it.. but it failed... with no error message, it just said sorry17:10
Nece228_gunni_ it didnt work17:10
Nece228_gunni_ applied reposity, refreshed apt in synaptic but theres same kd17:11
Nece228ee17:11
TheFuzzballapt-get spits out "Can't locate Dpkg.pm in @INC" and a load of other stuff when I try to install anything, it is because I compiled my own Perl and installed it. Is there a quick fix for this?17:12
darrellIs the 8.04 repo down? I can't install anything17:12
TheFuzzballbtw, I've tried sudo apt-get install --reinstall lib*-perl17:12
hsystemProblem with sensors here... anybody that had experience with this.17:13
Nece228_gunni_ kde-nightly is this correct?17:14
_gunni_Nece228: Thats the package you need. It installs parallel to kde 4.1, so you can choose on login screen17:15
Roland123_gunni_: do you know anything about enabling restricted drivers?17:16
_gunni_Roland123: Which drivers?17:17
Nece228_gunni_ i got error17:17
_gunni_Nece228: Did you change hardy to intrepid in the package line?17:17
_gunni_Roland123: Ah i see, nvidia, which card do you have?17:18
Nece228_gunni_ oops17:18
_gunni_Nece228: can happen :)17:18
Nece228_gunni_ thanks, that problem gone17:19
Nece228_gunni_ ao kde-nightly will install kde 4.2?17:19
_gunni_afaik these packages are build from trunk, so its kde 4.2 at the moment17:20
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Nece228_gunni_ cool, finally ill try kde 4.2 :)17:21
* Nece228 downloading17:21
_gunni_Nece228: I am sure there will be regular 4.2 packages soon, but devs seem busy atm17:22
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Nece228_gunni_ what do you mean by regular packages?17:22
Nece228_gunni_ stable packages or somethink?17:22
TheFuzzballCrap, I think I just killed my Kubuntu :(17:23
_gunni_packages as replacement for 4.1 maybe, but still beta, as 4.2 is announced for january or february17:23
Nece228_gunni_ so im downloading kde 4.2 beta1 right/17:24
TheFuzzballNOOOO!#17:24
TheFuzzball:'(17:24
webmareni'm getting a printer communication error when trying to do anything with my hp photosmart c518017:25
_gunni_Nece228: Not exactly, as its trunk its taken from the svn17:25
Nece228i dont know why but every third time kubuntu dont boots, it looks like monitor dont have signal17:25
Nece228_gunni_ no matter the most important thing is that i wanna see new kde 4.2 features17:26
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prometheus77i have a numpad not working issue, where is the best place to report this bug17:29
PhilRodprometheus77: best to describe the problem here and see if it's just a setup thing17:30
prometheus77my numpad works when i log out of kde 3.XX but when i log in, it stopps working, the numlight is always on17:31
PhilRodwhen you say "stops working", do you mean the keys do nothing at all, or that it's stuck in numlocked/unlocked mode?17:34
prometheus77how 2 test?17:37
prometheus77yes, it seems suck in scroll mode, pressing 8 goes up and pressing 2 goes down on the konversation chat window17:38
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prometheus77but the light is on17:38
PhilRodprometheus77: do you have kde set to turn on numlock at startup?17:45
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Shaan7my network interface doesn't work on kubuntu 8.10, even after a clean reinstall. it shows "eth0 disconnected" if wire plugged in, and "eth0 down" if wire not plugged in.works fine on ubuntu 8.1017:49
prometheus77let mecheck17:50
prometheus77i have it set leave unchainged PhilRod17:50
jhutchinsShaan7: What card?17:52
Shaan7jhutchins: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=626245417:54
Shaan7jhutchins: its Intel Corporation 82573L Gigabit Ethernet Controller17:54
Shaan7jhutchins: i have to use a manual ip , verified the settings are correct17:55
jhutchinsShaan7: does lsmod show the driver being loaded?17:59
jhutchinsShaan7: What device are you connecting to?18:00
ezgo6Sould I upgrade to 8.10?...I need a stable work platform.18:01
Shaan7jhutchins: i'm unsure of how to use the lsmod output, should i show it to you?18:01
jhutchinsShaan7: Look for the driver for the card.18:01
Shaan7jhutchins: i'm using the knetworkmanager, new connection in eth0 and then specifying the ip details18:01
Shaan7jhutchins: ok18:01
jhutchinsShaan7: I'd recommend configuring it manually from the console.  Find the right driver module (you might have to search with google), make an alias for it in modprobe config, etc.18:02
Shaan7jhutchins: lsmod | grep -i "eth0" doesn't give any output18:03
Shaan7jhutchins: does this mean the driver isn't installed ?18:03
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PhilRodprometheus77: (oops, sorry about the delay - got distracted). Some things you could try: take a look at the output of 'xev' when you hit the numpad keys, in kde and some other wm. You could also try with a newly-created user - that'll tell you whether the problem is to do with something in your local config18:05
jhutchinsNo, the driver won't be eth0, it will be something pertinent to the card.18:06
jhutchinsShaan7: Have you booted with the cable connected?  Looks like ubuntu has a known bug with this controller.18:07
Shaan7jhutchins: tried both18:08
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ezgo6join #ubuntu18:08
thomas__hi18:08
jhutchinsShaan7: Your module is probably "e1000".18:09
Shaan7jhutchins: the grep for e1000 shows "e1000e                112680  0"18:09
jhutchinsShaan7: What does uname -r give you?18:10
Shaan7jhutchins: 2.6.27-9-generic18:10
alex_21Hi, I want to move dhcpd and ltsp from eht0 to eht1. On eth1, I already have Zimbra and Apache?18:10
jhutchinsShaan7: Wild chance this may help: sudo depmod -r e1000e && sudo depmod e1000e then reboot.18:13
jhutchinsShaan7: (have network cable connected when rebooting.)18:13
Shaan7jhutchins: k thanks, let me try, i'll be back18:13
Shaan7jhutchins: error "WARNING: Can't read module e1000e: No such file or directory"18:14
Shaan7jhutchins: that warning is displayed two times18:15
jimbohow come my cdrom isn't reading my floppy?18:15
jhutchinsShaan7: Odd.18:15
jimboi jammed it in there good18:16
jhutchinsShaan7: lsmod clearly shows e1000e, right?18:16
Shaan7jhutchins: does all this mean the driver is not installed? or its just not working correctly?18:16
jhutchinsShaan7: There are known problems with this card and it's driver.18:16
* stmartin : any unicode fonts for UNIX?18:17
* stmartin : Please.18:17
Shaan7jhutchins: yep it shows18:17
Shaan7jhutchins: ok, then i'm just unlucky18:17
jhutchinsstmartin: Yes, linux/unix supports unicode.18:17
Shaan7jhutchins: well a general question, ubuntu and kubuntu handle inetrfacs differently?18:17
Shaan7jhutchins: because it works fine on ubuntu 8.1018:18
jhutchinsShaan7: Yeah, just happens to be one that's buggy right now.  You can try live CD's for other distros and see if any of them have fixed it.18:18
stmartinjhutchins why some characters in Character map aren't shown correctly( 2x2 box with letters and #) ?18:18
jhutchinsShaan7: No, the underlying structure is the same, it's just the desktop that's different.18:18
jhutchinsShaan7: How did you switch to kubuntu?18:18
wimpiesis there a qt 4.4 version for hardy ?18:19
Shaan7jhutchins: ubuntu and kubuntu are installed on two different partitions18:19
Shaan7jhutchins: sda5 and sda7 repspectively18:19
jhutchinsShaan7: I wonder if they both have the same kernel version, that could be the difference.18:19
jhutchinsgotta go for a bit, back later.18:19
Shaan7jhutchins: i've updated both to newest version, updated kubuntu using my mobile phone gprs connection18:20
Shaan7jhutchins: *newest version of kernel18:20
alex_21Hey, I want to make a oficial fork like Kubuntu. Who do I talk to?18:20
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jimboalex_21: i don't know, but i guess you should make the fork first, and then try to have it made official.18:30
BluesKajalex_21, http://www.canonical.com/ ?18:31
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PleXuShi all, anyone known how to fix packages?18:35
PleXuSgetting a problem when installing firefox 3 onto kde418:35
PleXuS/var/lib/dpkg/info/xulrunner-1.9.postinst: 5: /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9: not found18:35
prometheus77PhilRod: all of the buttons work in xev, except the "numlock" key. very strange. I will try to create a new user in a few seconds18:42
trappistPleXuS: I wonder if you ran out of disk space or something.  /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9 is part of the xulrunner-1.9 package.18:43
PleXuStrappist, no it just happened when upgrading.. firefox failed18:43
PhilRodprometheus77: hardy?18:43
PleXuStrappist, 300Gb free ;)18:44
trappistPleXuS: does /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9 exist on your box?18:44
trappistPleXuS: also does this exist: /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.0.4/xulrunner18:45
prometheus77PhilRod: the newest version, or how do i check?18:45
PleXuSno xul18:45
prometheus77PhilRod: , i just switched to new user, but no change, imma logout and then try new user, maybe even restart x18:46
PleXuStrappist, but in lib dir it exists18:46
prometheus77PhilRod: i will be back in 10 mins please wait18:46
PhilRodprometheus77: er, embarrasingly, I don't know how to check version - someone here will though18:46
PhilRodok18:46
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PleXuStrappist, any idea how to fix it? :)18:50
trappistPleXuS: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.0.4/xulrunner /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.918:50
trappistPleXuS: then try sudo apt-get -f install18:51
PleXuStrappist, stil the same18:52
trappistPleXuS: what does this say: ls -l /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.918:52
trappistPleXuS: also, you're on intrepid, right?18:52
PleXuSyes18:52
PleXuSlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 2008-11-30 19:51 /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9 -> /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.0.4/xulrunner18:53
PleXuStrappist, thats the result18:53
trappistand it's not like red or flashing or anything, right?18:53
PleXuSits red18:54
prometheus77PhilRod: strangest thing, new account didn't do anything, and pressing caplock turned off the numlock key permanently :(18:54
PleXuSbut not flashing18:54
trappistPleXuS: ok that indicates a broken symlink.  did you say /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.0.4/xulrunner exists?18:54
prometheus77PhilRod: scrollock is busted too18:55
PleXuSthe lib dir did exist18:55
PhilRodprometheus77: I had some issues with keyboard identification in intrepid - if you're running it, you might have the same thing. I didn't investigate it much though. Someone else might be able to point you in the right direction18:55
trappistPleXuS: not sure what that means exactly, but does the file I mentioned exist?18:55
PleXuStrappist, only not the one you say this one do exist --> /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.0.418:56
prometheus77imma restart after i delete my xorg config18:56
PleXuStrappist, seems no xulrunner map inside it :s18:56
prometheus77if i do not return in 20 mins something went horribly wrong18:56
dr_willisprometheus77,  you just need to restart the X server..18:56
dr_willisNot the system18:56
trappistPleXuS: ok that's the problem then.  I can't see which package is supposed to proved that file.  are other files in there, like xulrunner-bin, xulrunner-stub, xpidl etc.?18:57
trappists/proved/provide/18:57
PleXuStrappist, inside this dir --> usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.0.4  ?18:58
trappistyes18:58
prometheus77so i don't have an xorg.config anymore :()19:00
prometheus77and um?19:00
trappistprometheus77: that's ok, it's supposed to be xorg.conf19:00
trappistPleXuS: ping19:00
prometheus77trappist: i don't have that either19:01
prometheus77i ddid rm -rf /etc/X11/xorg.co*19:01
PleXuStrappist, defaults            dictionaries  icons           libmozjs.so    libxpcom.so19:01
PleXuSdependentlibs.list  greprefs      libjemalloc.so  libpyxpcom.so  libxul.so19:01
trappistprometheus77: why'd you do that19:01
PleXuSthose are the files in it :)19:01
prometheus77to fix mah keyboard19:01
PleXuSand dirs :)19:01
prometheus77it didn't work19:01
trappistprometheus77: yeah rm -rf isn't usually a fixy command.19:02
trappistPleXuS: you're missing all kinds of stuff... gimme a second to see if I can talk apt-file into telling me which package is supposed to give you the missing stuff...19:02
prometheus77i lold19:02
PleXuStrappist, ok thanks ;)19:03
stdintrappist, PleXuS: "xulrunner-1.9" is the package19:03
trappiststdin: oh yeah, didn't think to try dpkg -L... PleXuS is somehow missing a bunch of that stuff19:04
PleXuSstdin, yeah but i can't install it .. getting allways that error message19:05
PleXuSdpkg -L should do the trick? :)19:05
trappistPleXuS: it doesn't do any tricks ;)  just lists the contents of a given package19:05
stdinI'd say to try "touch /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9", then "sudo apt-get --reinstall install xulrunner-1.9"19:06
stdinand repeat for any other missing files19:06
PleXuSbut this happened when installing firefox 3 on KDE4 really weard19:06
trappiststdin: he's already got /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9, it's a broken symlink to a missing file in the libdir19:06
trappiststdin: and the error he gets, he gets installing the xulrunner-1.9 package, but...19:07
stdintrappist: that's why you use touch, it'll create an empty file19:07
stdinit's just there so dpkg can remove it19:07
trappistPleXuS: yeah try what stdin said, he's making more sense than I am atm :)19:07
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PleXuS/var/lib/dpkg/info/xulrunner-1.9.postinst: 5: /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9: Permission denied19:08
PleXuSnow getting this error :)19:09
stdinwith the "sudo apt-get --reinstall install xulrunner-1.9" command?19:09
PleXuSyeah19:09
stdinwhat does "ls -l/usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9" show now?19:09
PleXuSstdin, and first the touch19:09
stdinI probably meant "sudo touch ..."19:10
prometheus77how do i manually configure my keyboard ?19:10
PleXuSlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 2008-11-30 19:51 /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9 -> /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.0.4/xulrunner19:10
PleXuSstdin, indeed sudo before it ;)19:10
stdinPleXuS: do "sudo rm /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9" then "sudo touch /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9"19:10
voicu_hi, i have a problem with my network connection. it's very slow (20-30kB/s) and if i type ifconfig a few times, i see that the number of dropped packets is like 200million/second19:11
stdinthen try the apt-get command again19:11
voicu_what could do that?19:11
PleXuSstdin, and then the reinstall rule?19:11
stdinyeah19:12
trappistvoicu_: a bad cable, bad router/switch/hub, cable's too long or something, possibly a bad driver for your card, or the list is different if this is a wireless device19:12
PleXuS/var/lib/dpkg/info/xulrunner-1.9.postinst: 5: /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9: Permission denied19:13
stdinahh, I think I see. hold on19:13
trappistI guess it wants it to be executable19:13
voicu_trappist: it's a realtek wire card connected to a router through a switch, i also have a not connected wireless realtek19:13
voicu_trappist: the router has no problem19:13
alex_21I have a similar issue19:13
alex_21I have a desperate network problem I must fix. Here is what I get from /tc/init.d/networking restart * reconfiguring network interfaces... rtnetlink no such process. What can I do about it19:13
trappistvoicu_: another possibility is a bad route... what does `route -n | grep ^0` say?19:14
PleXuSstdin, i don't see it :) never had this issue before :)19:14
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stdinPleXuS: try removing xulrunner-1.9 first19:15
voicu_trappist, hmm 192.168.1.0 on gateway 0.0.0.0, 169.254.0.0 on 0.0.0.019:15
PleXuSstdin, how you mean? uninstalling it?19:15
stdinPleXuS: "sudo apt-get remove xulrunner-1.9"19:15
alex_21169 is a self-assigned IP19:16
trappistvoicu_: neither of those look right, but the 169 address is probably for your disconnected wireless card19:16
trappistvoicu_: try this: sudo route add default gw ip.of.your.router19:16
copproanyone have experience making compiz work well under KDE? My only issue left is that plasma gets messed up and I have to start it manually19:17
PleXuSstdin, fixed ;)19:17
PleXuSstdin, trappist thanks for the help!!19:17
trappistcoppro: I had that problem at the beginning, but it seems to have resolved itself - possibly because I installed and used fusion-icon, which is supposed to handle the compiz startup stuff for you19:17
stdinI don't know why it happened, I can install firefox fine19:18
voicu_trappist: i did that but there was another item i didn19:18
trappistcoppro: that is, I'm starting compiz by adding fusion-icon to my kde startup19:18
copprotrappist: oh. Didn't know about that one... let's see19:18
PleXuSstdin, it happend with upgrading19:18
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copprocurrently, I have a simple shell script19:18
PleXuSstdin, but i did used the gui maybe thats the problem :)19:18
voicu_trappist: i didn't  see at first: destination 0.0.0.0 through 192.168.1.1, which is ok, rihgt?19:18
trappistcoppro: yeah that's how I started, and my plasma would crash19:18
copprowell, it doesn't crash, it just gets messed up19:19
trappistvoicu_: if that's the ip of your router, yeah19:19
stdinPleXuS: shouldn't really matter, it just uses apt in the background19:19
voicu_trappist: then what other software problem can it be? i'm kinda sure the cables/switches are ok19:19
trappistvoicu_: I wonder if that other one's not interfering, though - I dunno why you'd have two for 0.0.0.019:19
copproalso, while I'm here, how do I change the umask for KDE?19:20
PleXuSstdin, yeah i known :) do you maybe known how to make tunnel network device ?19:20
PleXuSstdin, trying to access it with vbox as host interface but i can't ping it from inside my vbox :s19:20
PleXuSi maybe did something wrong :s19:21
voicu_trappist: how could the wireless card interfere, it's not even enabled19:21
stdinPleXuS: I would think VirtualBox would take care of that. maybe someone in #vbox knows if you need to do it manually19:22
DeviantPeerHi all.19:22
voicu_trappist: i did an ifdown, ifup and now i have a single gw for 0.0.0.0 which is the router19:22
voicu_trappist: the packets still flow like crazy19:22
DeviantPeerI trying to mount a udf DVD, but the mount point allways get's a 000 permissions, rendering anyone (apart from root) unable to access the directory19:23
trappistvoicu_: the theory was that the presence of the card added a second default route that maybe confused things, but if getting rid of it doesn't help, the theory was wrong :)19:23
voicu_trappist: hmm, then i'll do some permutations on the wires and see what happens :P19:24
Roland123how to make konsole transparent?19:24
DeviantPeeranyone?19:25
copproRoaldn123: if you have transparency on, you should be able to right-click the title bar and adjust the opacity19:25
copproDeviantPeer: try chmodding the directory you mount to19:25
copproalso, make sure the proper mount option is set (I think you want ro19:25
stdinDeviantPeer: mount /device /place -o umask=00019:26
voicu_trappist: i unplugged the wire and the card still has many dropped packets19:26
DeviantPeercoppro: first thing I tried. but "chmod: changing permissions of `Pictures/': Read-only file system"19:26
voicu_trappist: that should mean it's only a software problem19:26
DeviantPeerstdin: also tried that. didn't work... :(19:26
voicu_trappist: it can19:26
copproDeviantPeer: umount it, then change, the remount. And make sure you have ro in fstab or -o ro on the mount command19:26
stdinDeviantPeer: what about "-o uid=$(id -u)" ?19:27
DeviantPeercoppro: trying with mount (no change to fstab)19:27
DeviantPeerstdin: I'm trying it now.19:27
voicu_trappist: damn keyboard... any other ideas? :D19:27
Roland123coppro: thnx, i was looking from a tottaly wrong place19:28
voicu_trappist: also, i didn't see any problems when in windows so that should rule out a hardware issue19:29
psaikenhey19:29
DeviantPeerstdin: it doesn't work...19:29
trappistvoicu_: well, sometimes a reboot actually does help :)  if you have a wireless router, you might try firing up your wireless card to see if it has the same problem.  if it does, I dunno what to tell you, but if it doesn't, you might try to dig up another ethernet card and see how it behaves.19:29
stdinDeviantPeer: how are you mounting it?19:30
trappistvoicu_: that is to say I think the two most likely candidates are the card itself or the realtek drivers19:30
trappistvoicu_: oh, also run dmesg to see if there's any interesting info in there19:30
DeviantPeerstdin: "sudo mount -o ro -o gid=mtavares /dev/dvd -o umask=000  cdrom0/"19:30
DeviantPeerstdin: cwd = /media19:31
stdinDeviantPeer: why not just "mount /media/cdrom0", you shouldn't need sudo to mount it19:31
copprotrappist: nope, doesn't work. Plasma does the same thing, which is that my panel goes dark, except the K menu was replaced by a device manager19:31
copprocurrently, I have a script: compiz & sleep 5; killall plasma; plasma;19:32
DeviantPeerstdin: because I'm trying to pass parameter to the mount, so I think I need to be root.19:32
voicu_trappist: i rebooted a few times since it worked before (i reinstalled the system since then). in dmesg the only network related error is "r8169: eth0: no ipv6 routers present"19:32
DeviantPeerstdin: let me try without root19:32
stdinDeviantPeer: gid is wrong, it needs to be a number19:32
DeviantPeerstdin: "mount: only root can do that"19:32
Roland123kacpid is using a lot of cpu.. is it safe to kill it?19:33
voicu_trappist: how do i activate the wireless card? if it's adriver issue there is not much i can do, right?19:33
DeviantPeerstdin: ahhh.. could be that, yes.. let me try19:33
stdinDeviantPeer: something like "sudo mount -o ro,gid=$(id -g),umask=000 cdrom0"19:33
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DeviantPeerstdin: trying.19:34
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DeviantPeerstdin: does the same thing. the mount point gets 00019:36
DeviantPeerdarn19:36
stdinDeviantPeer: what about changing the umask to "0111" ?19:36
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krgrhii room19:37
DeviantPeerstdin: the same...19:37
stdinodd19:37
krgri wanted some help about a tv card/usb dongle19:37
DeviantPeerthis is too strange!19:37
voicutrappist: how do i disable ipv6? on the ubuntu forums it was suggested that the card/driver might not handle ipv6 very well19:37
prometheus77HOW DO I MANUALLY CONFIGURE MY KEYBOARD19:38
Roland123prometheus77: kill the caps lock19:38
prometheus77ok19:38
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copprotrappist: nope, still nothing works :(19:41
copproplasma is still messed up19:41
voicuhow do i change the driver a network interface works? i have a realtek card and i want to change from r8169 to r810119:41
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copprotrappist: got it working; once I installed fusion-icon I just had to set Compiz to be my window manager in the systemsettings19:46
voicucan someone please tell me how i can change the network driver that my card uses?19:48
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Lupus-SLEHello people.19:56
Lupus-SLEIs anybody else but me having issues with the Hardware Manager?19:57
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voicuwhat issues?19:59
Lupus-SLEvoicu: Well for me... it doesn't work... and I can't be too much more specific because that's the extent. When I press 'activate' nothing happens19:59
Lupus-SLEDoesn't produce any sort of output either20:00
kubuntu_anyone can guide me how to turn compiz on latest kubuntu20:00
Lupus-SLEkubuntu_: Kicker > System Settings > Desktop > Effects20:00
kubuntu_and what do i do there20:01
Lupus-SLEThere's a button that says "enable desktop effects" or something like that20:01
Lupus-SLEYou'll see it, trust me20:02
kubuntu_it is enabled20:02
Lupus-SLEThen enjoy your compiz20:02
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Lupus-SLEYou can choose what effects you want in the next tab.20:02
kubuntu_but cube doesnt work20:04
Lupus-SLEI think that's an option on the next page20:04
Lupus-SLEGo search for it20:04
Lupus-SLEvoicu: I'm trying it with the GTK one20:05
brad_Hi I have a quick question that will hopefully be easy to fix20:05
Lupus-SLEvoicu: Last time that one gave me some useful feedback but this time I think... I think it works...20:05
brad_I'm on Kubuntu 8.10 and for some reason my monitors power saving function keeps messing up20:05
Lupus-SLEbrad_: You never need to ask to ask in this sort of channel, we're here to help you, ask and you will be helped.20:05
brad_that is to say the screen won't turn off sometimes20:06
Lupus-SLEbrad_: Is this a new problem?20:06
kubuntu_cany find anything20:06
brad_so then I have to go to the powersettings (on the display menu) and set it again, and then it works20:06
kubuntu_cant find anything20:06
Lupus-SLEkubuntu_: Hmm...20:06
brad_and I mean it still shows it as being set, but sometimes the monitor doesn't turn off all day/night etc20:06
Lupus-SLEkubuntu_: Not to patronise you, but have you googled for this?20:06
brad_I'm wondering if something is waking it?20:06
kubuntu_yes20:06
brad_ummmm, I would say under two weeks but I dont know just when it started20:07
Lupus-SLEThere may be additional packages you need to install, unfortunatly I'm not an expert on compiz20:07
kubuntu_cant fin anything that shows me hoe to enable20:07
brad_I was wondering if dragon media player was keeping it awake after videos ended, but that program has no preferences I can find, and that isnt the only time it happens20:07
kubuntu_i heavent been using linux for some years20:07
brad_because it may be that when I see it, something has just woken it up and I dont know what is waking it up, but I dont know where those settings are either20:07
Lupus-SLEbrad_: The Dragon player disapointed me, it has such an awesome icon but the player itself is very... basic, shall we say20:08
brad_yeah I can go back to kaffeine and see if that helps but I really dont think thats the problem cause thats not the only time it happens20:08
brad_unless thats one of many things keeping it awake20:08
Lupus-SLEbrad_: Do you live near a herd of elephants?20:08
Lupus-SLEOr have a very sensitive mouse?20:09
brad_lol neither20:09
Lupus-SLEHmm...20:09
brad_Iv'e had the same mouse for a very long time20:09
brad_I mean sometimes if I'm at the desk I accidentally wake it up but I know that i've done it20:09
brad_Ir eally think its not turning off at all20:09
brad_then I have to go to the display settings, and set it again20:09
Lupus-SLEbrad_: Occams razor and all... but could you not just turn the screen off when you leave your PC? :P20:09
kubuntu_well i guess i will be waiting with my compiz20:09
kubuntu_no luck20:09
brad_actually, I have a monitor I've had foreverI got at a surplus sale that the power button doesnt work on20:10
brad_so I actually can't20:10
brad_beyond which, I regularly go to sleep with a show or whatever playing on the computer20:10
Lupus-SLEkubuntu_: I'll have a fetch for you, give me a minute20:10
kubuntu_thx20:10
BluesKajthere are severalm timed apps that don't start properly such as the screensdaver. It has to be reset every session , bloody PITA20:11
brad_I previously had it set to suspend at a half hour and had the other power saving settings off, then I turned all three on 10 minutes apart in order (hoping at least one would catch it) and that didnt help either20:11
avareHow to get different wallpapers on each workspace in kubuntu 8.1020:12
Lupus-SLEavare: Is that even possible?20:13
avarehttp://anuragbansal.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/how-to-get-different-wallpapers-on-each-workspace-in-ubuntu/   Lopus-SLE20:15
Lupus-SLEkubuntu_: http://www.howtoforge.com/enabling-compiz-fusion-on-ubuntu-8.10-nvidia20:15
kubuntu_yes20:15
Lupus-SLEkubuntu_: That's for Ubuntu, but it'll be extremely similar and the packages you need will be almost identical20:15
Lupus-SLESo that should get you your cube20:16
kubuntu_thx20:16
kubuntu_il try now20:16
Lupus-SLEbrad_: Hmm...20:16
Lupus-SLEbrad_: Might just be a broken bit of KDE 4.120:17
Lupus-SLEbrad_: How long have you been on Intrepid?20:17
brad_ummm since beta 120:17
Lupus-SLEbrad_: Might be worth reverting to Hardy20:17
kubuntu_wll mine is set to 177 version and its recomended?20:18
qwarkhi20:19
Lupus-SLEbrad_: I'm not particularly brilliant with the power management of Linux, might be worth asking in ##Linux as that's, IMO, a more techical channel, and it sounds like you have a technical problem20:19
brad_hmmm well is there a command to check the integrity of the install or something? or does it do that automatically when you apt-get update?20:21
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kubuntu_now i cannot find preferences /appeareance20:30
kubuntu_whic should be under system20:30
kubuntu_??20:30
MuzikJunkiecan anyone help me get the resolution to 1280 X 1024 on Kubuntu 8.10 with intel onboard video?  Monitor is Samsung Syncmaster 93120:32
BluesKajwhich intel?20:33
MuzikJunkieIntel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)20:35
kubuntu_how can i turn my desktop effects to custom?20:38
kubuntu_anyone?20:38
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Tm_Tkubuntu_: what you mean by "custom" ?20:39
kubuntu_weel to get compiz to work i need to set my desktop to custom effects as in ubuntu20:41
Tm_Tkubuntu_: ah, see your "user default applications"20:41
kubuntu_and that would be where?20:42
Tm_Tsomewhere at second line in System Settings20:42
kubuntu_not in kubuntu?20:43
kubuntu_i cant finde it20:43
Tm_Tthat is in kubuntu, if we are talking about KDE4 here20:43
kubuntu_yes20:43
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kubuntu_i found it but i cannot change anything there20:44
kubuntu_that has to do with effects20:44
Tm_Tkubuntu_: something related to window managing?20:45
newbiemanhi all20:45
kubuntu_yes20:46
kubuntu_if you look here that is what i am trying to do20:47
newbiemancan any one help with tomcat20:47
kubuntu_http://www.howtoforge.com/enabling-compiz-fusion-on-ubuntu-8.10-nvidia-p220:47
Tm_Tsorry, cannot look there20:47
kubuntu_but just on kubuntu20:47
kubuntu_?20:47
Tm_Tkubuntu_: but KDE and GNOME are quite different20:47
kubuntu_i know20:47
kubuntu_that is the problem20:48
Tm_T!compiz20:48
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion20:48
tetrachbeginner here and I am having resolution issues20:48
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kubuntu_there are no desktop effects under system20:51
Tm_Tkubuntu_: I know, that part of the factoid is outdated20:52
tetrachcan anyone give me a hand I accidentally changed my settings and now I cant see my log in screen or desktop20:52
ubuntu_Hi.20:52
ubuntu_I just set up a dualboot b/t Kubuntu 8.10 and Windows Server 2003, and I get a GRUB Error 18.20:52
ubuntu_How would I fix this? I'm on the Kubuntu live cd now.20:53
kubuntu_what do i do?20:53
Tm_Tkubuntu_: uno momento20:53
kubuntu_looks like you will becom my best friend20:53
kubuntu_;)20:53
Lucidaalguien que hable español,que se manifieste coño20:54
ubuntu_Anyone?20:55
Tm_Tkubuntu_: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/kde4-compiz.png20:56
Tm_T!grub | ubuntu_20:56
ubottuubuntu_: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto20:56
Tm_Tkubuntu_: see that kind of option there?20:56
ubuntu_Tm_T, that's no help.20:57
ubuntu_I need to create a boot partition and move my /boot files to the new /boot partition.20:57
ubuntu_Not sure how to.20:57
ubuntu_the /boot needs to be at the front.20:57
Tm_Tubuntu_: hmm, you have read those thru?20:57
ubuntu_Tm_T, no, because I know that's not it.20:57
Tm_Tok then20:57
ubuntu_i know what it's gonna say, and that wouldn't fix my problem.20:57
dr_willisWhy does boot need to be at the front? thats not been a limit for ages.. except on old machines..21:08
ubuntu_*cough*21:08
dr_willisit will pay to read through the grub manual. what you want to do is not too hard to do.21:08
ubuntu_well, i was more interested in how i was going to move my /boot files21:08
ubuntu_but i dont care, i just repartitioned my hd. >.> no harm done, nothing good on windows anyway.21:09
dr_willismake a new partition at the start of the drive. copy them over. mount it as /boot21:09
ubuntu_im good.21:09
dr_willisif  you have the '1024' cylinder limit problem.. then you may want to use fdisk to make the partition, to be sure its under the 1024 cylinder.21:09
ubuntu_back to the football game21:09
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ubuntu_YES!21:11
ubuntu_INTERCEPTION21:11
ubuntu_GOD YES21:11
ubuntu_we win.21:11
ubuntu_that was an excellent game, i really didn't think the panthers would win. (H)21:12
loganWHDis there a tool that i can use to look inside of a HUGE bz2 archive and just extract or view one or two files?21:23
Tm_TloganWHD: Ark ?21:23
loganWHDyah i am trying ark21:23
loganWHDdoesnt seem to like it too much21:23
loganWHDthinks and thinks and thinks forever21:23
dr_willisloganWHD,  mc can do that21:23
loganWHDmc?21:24
dr_willisthats the name.. 'mc21:24
dr_willisthats the name.. 'mc'21:24
loganWHDbeauty21:24
dr_willis!info mc21:24
ubottumc (source: mc): midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:4.6.2~git20080311-2 (intrepid), package size 2085 kB, installed size 6256 kB21:24
loganWHDthanks21:24
dr_willisnow the issue may be the Hugeness of the archive. :)21:24
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epimethis there no more "network directories"21:33
epimeth?21:33
epimethoh... found it, I think....21:35
epimethyea... heh... remote:/  :-)21:36
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epimethokay, so how do I list network folders in the "open folder" dialog?21:45
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epimethanybody home?21:49
kevmanI read in a bug that bluetooth support is completely busted?21:55
kevmanI can't find any other references to this fact.21:56
epimethkevman: dunno...21:57
kevman Oh, this IS freenode. You should have some indication of that in konversation.21:59
serdnanice21:59
serdna:D21:59
serdnaguys, how do i switch workspaces?21:59
kevmanThere's a little 1 2 in the bottom right hand corner of the screen22:00
serdnano shortcuts?22:00
kevmanI'd say check the documentation, but I don't think any exists22:01
kevmanAt least not about Bluetooth or Compiz22:01
eamonhello trying to get squid to work  keeps saying  FATAL: Could not determine fully qualified hostname. Please set 'visible_hostn22:03
kevmanSO.... No bluetooth support, period?22:04
Dragnslcrkevman- I believe that's the case, unfortunately22:04
kevmanAnd where is this said?22:05
DragnslcrThough my keyboard and mouse were kinda flaky anyway, so I'm happier with a regular RF set22:05
DragnslcrThink I saw it in the release notes22:05
kevmanYeah, but nowhere else22:06
loganWHDhola22:06
BazHello22:06
loganWHDdoes anyone know how to make Konversation group the nicks into OPS and non ops?22:06
Bazi have a problem trying to install ur latest 8.1 64bit os off the disk22:07
Dragnslcrkevman- http://www.kubuntu.org/news/8.10-release at the bottom, in the "Known Issues" section22:07
kevmanOooook, how about compiz?22:07
Bazi get the error Aperture 4gb, Ignoring and the system doesn't appear to do anything can anyone shed any light22:07
eamonanyone here know how to install squid22:08
kevmanHow does one make URLS open in konqueror?22:08
kevmanfrom konverstaion22:08
dr_willissudo apt-get install squid ?22:08
dr_willis!info squid22:08
ubottusquid (source: squid): Internet object cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.7.STABLE3-1ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 679 kB, installed size 1748 kB22:08
DragnslcrloganWHD- I believe it's Configure -> Behavior -> Nickname List22:09
Dragnslcrkevman- is Konqueror your default browser?22:09
loganWHDhrmmm i dont even see a configure menu22:09
kevmanI'm using the live environment. I'd say yes22:09
DragnslcrloganWHD- under the Settings menu22:09
Dragnslcrkevman- what do they open in instead?22:09
kevmanIt asks me what I want to do with it22:10
DragnslcrHm, I dunno then22:10
loganWHDsi22:10
loganWHDyou are correct22:10
eamonwhen i install and restart squid it says  FATAL: Could not determine fully qualified hostname. Please set 'visible_hostn22:10
loganWHDgrassy-ass22:10
BazCan anyone help, i boot from the 8.1 64bit cd i just downloaded, boots fine select install kubuntu and it says Aperture 4gb, Ignoring then nothing happens ive left hte system for 30 mins and it just hasn't done anything can anybody help as i really do not wish to stay on winblows any longer! lol22:12
dr_willisI see that message on my systems all the time.. but they boot fine..   So its not related to the problem i imagine.. However that IS like the very first diag. message i see.. so the machine seems to be hanging very very very early in the bootup process..22:13
mrksbrdok who is good with figuring out cups?.....i'm @ my wits end22:13
dr_willisyou could try one of the safe modes, or try the 'noapic'  or other options  baz22:14
jussi01mrksbrd: just tell your prob and find out...22:14
Bazwhat does noapic do? dr_willis22:14
mrksbrdbasically loads printer tried several configs & still won't print22:14
dr_willisdisables APIC :)22:14
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dr_willisapic, and apci are often the 2 problem areas with laptops. sadly22:15
Bazbut mine is a custom built pc22:15
kevmanI guess I'll try this kubuntu. I have a feeling I'll be running back to Gentoo with my tail between my legs, though.22:15
Baznot a laptop22:16
Bazshal i try it anyways?22:16
dr_williscould be an issue with it also..22:16
goldmetalanyone use pidgin?  it ask me to accept certificate. http://nexus.passport.com/ says page unavailable22:16
* dr_willis normally runs FROM gentoo22:16
Bazok so how do i tell it to do this22:16
jussi01mrksbrd: please let us know more, which printer, how is it connected etc?22:17
* Baz usualy uses winblows but is so frustrated with constant reformats!22:17
mrksbrdjussi01: epson rx680 via usb22:17
Bazdr_willis how do i tell it to noapic before i press enter on install kubuntu22:18
mrksbrdi know the printer does work w/kubuntu, has worked in past, just loaded linux on this desktop22:19
jussi01mrksbrd: are you setting it up with the kubuntu dialogue or web interface?'22:20
Bazthat didn't work22:21
BazAnyone else have any idea's?22:21
mrksbrdtried both22:21
jussi01mrksbrd: you ahve another pc using it? tried duplicating the settings from there?22:21
mrksbrdalready did....same thing.....thats what I can't figure out22:22
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jussi01mrksbrd: you sure its the same ppd file?22:24
mrksbrdi tried letting it go default....and ppd file for the 680....says processing, but never prints22:25
mrksbrdif i totally remove & re-install cups would that be a possibility that something went wrong with it on initial install?22:27
Maligneyes.22:27
jussi01mrksbrd: try copying the ppd from the other machine -  then specifying it - the web interface lets you do that22:27
mrksbrdjussi01: lol.... already did try that22:28
jussi01mrksbrd: Id reburn the disk you installed with, after checking the MD5 on the iso, and reinstall. also, is it an old PC?22:29
labamanhi all! Tell me please russian chenel's name22:29
jussi01!ru22:29
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke22:29
mrksbrdp4...few years old22:30
mrksbrdi'll keep plugging away @ it....ty anyways22:30
labamanok, thx22:30
bucketheadHow odd.. I'm trying to upgrade to intrepid but it wont launch the ditribution upgrade tool.22:31
bucketheadHow would I launch it directly?22:31
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geniibuckethead: The dist upgrade will only show if there is a long-term support release upgrade available22:32
bucketheadI did a kdesudo "adept_manager --dist-upgrade"22:33
bucketheadwent through the steps, it said it was closing adept and going through upgrade and then nothing happened?22:34
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geniibuckethead: I think you wanted --dist-upgrade-devel22:37
bucketheadcan't load DistUpgradeViewKDE (No module named PyQt4.QtCore)22:37
bucketheadNope, Same errors with -devel.22:39
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jussi01Has anyone managed to get the plugins in gwenview installed/working? which actual package do I need? (intrepid)22:47
jussi01currently it just says "no plugin"22:48
BazCan somebody pls give me the MD5 number for the Kubuntu8.10-alternate-amd64.iso22:53
octaviohola22:53
Bazas the disks check says its faulty yet imgburn tested it and siad it was fine22:54
Bazso i need the MD5 number to be 100%22:54
jussi01Baz: its on the sameplace where you downlooaded theimage from..22:54
jussi01hi octavio22:55
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Bazok now im totaly confused22:58
BazThe MD5 checksum is 100% the same22:58
Bazyet the cd says its corrupted yet it burned succsefully22:58
phil0uhello23:01
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phil0uhas someone got around the depency issue with kdelibs5 when trying to install Amarok 2 RC1 in 8.10 Intrepid ? Thanks,23:02
mahdihi23:03
yamen-cssslt23:03
UbuntuUsermay i ask wats the fdifference btween ubuntu and kubuntu?23:03
bucketheadgenii: My problem was because python-qt4 wasn't installed.23:03
helge__I am looking for a virtual cd/dvd rom... Does it ecost23:03
helge__it exist23:03
helge__?23:04
UbuntuUser how can i enable my nvidia card and still use my external monitor? my laptop screen is broken23:04
yamen-css????????23:09
mahdi#linuxac23:10
bucketheadgenii: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=176591 <- Do I make sense?23:10
geniibuckethead: Yup, short and sweet23:11
Lupus-SLE!bug23:20
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots23:20
e-headhey23:20
szrhawaiidoes anyone have a good recommendation for a k menu application besides kbfx23:21
e-headI'm trying to install Kubuntu and having all sorts of problems.23:21
e-headI think my DVD ROM drive was bad at first.23:21
e-headI'm getting these "buffer I/O error on device sr0" messages now.23:21
e-headAnyone know what device sr0 is?23:22
astrommeit could be your cdrom drive23:22
astromme /dvd23:22
e-headyeah. That's weird, cause this is the second one i've tried.23:22
astrommeIt probably means a bad burn, bad drive, or that your drive can't handle the media correctly23:22
e-headI'm starting to think maybe it's the controller, not the drive.23:23
astrommeWhere in the install process do you get the errors?23:23
szrhawaiii thought it was when it cant read anything23:23
e-headX-windows never even starts up.23:23
e-headI did a "check CD" a second ago and it checked out fine.23:23
e-headVery weird.23:23
szrhawaiiwhat are you trying to do23:24
e-headThis is the second DVD drive I've tried too. I'm really startin to think maybe the controller is flaky.23:24
e-headInstall Kubuntu.23:24
e-headI should probably check the connection.23:24
szrhawaiifrom a live cd23:24
e-headI'm just doing an install.23:24
astrommeOut of curiosity does your .iso boot in a virtual machine?23:24
yamen-csse-head: very good23:24
astrommeszrhawaii: kmenu... like lancelot/kicker?23:25
e-headlast time it looked like everything went okay but then X-windows seemed to bomb out.23:25
szrhawaiiyeah but i neeed it for 3.5 do you know if that works for 3.523:25
e-headSo, I thought it was just my graphics card. I tried rebooting and doing a "safe graphics mode" install, but then I started getting these I/O errors.23:25
e-headMan, I'm just not having any luck.23:25
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e-head;)23:25
astrommeszrhawaii: neither of those do. There is a kicker from opensuse maybe (they first used it in 3.5) but the current iteration is kde423:26
turckoHi.... a name for graphical aplication to manage system services???23:26
astrommee-head: sorry to hear that =/. Are you using flaky cds?23:26
szrhawaiido you know one that does astromme23:26
e-headNo. It checked out fine (md5sum).23:27
e-headThis is the second one I burned.23:27
szrhawaiie-head dit speedd you burn the .iso at the righ23:27
astrommeszrhawii: what distro are you using? There was a gentoo ebuild iirc but that was years ago23:27
szrhawaiidid you burn the iso at the right speed23:27
Fieldyhello, has anyone installed kde4 and found when they log in, you get a black screen, the mouse pointer, and nothing else? this kde4 install has worked fine for a long time until today.23:27
e-headKubuntu said it was all good (I did the "check CD option" after booting)23:27
szrhawaiii have hardy23:27
Lupus-SLEThis may be a rediculous question... but for some reason kmix and knetworkmanager both appear on startup on intrepid... I don't want them to start... how do I stop this?23:28
szrhawaiie-head did you do a 50/50 partition or full23:28
astrommee-head: Have you tried just installing without the check cd? I found that if I had flaky drives/controllers, they would often fail if I first did a cd media check but work (probably because they were not being used as much or for as long) if I just went straight to the install23:28
e-headI'm going to try that now.23:28
astrommeLupus-SLE: You should be able to disable those in System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager -> Apps to be excluded from sessions23:29
e-headHey, do you guys know if it's possible to bypass the CD drive altogether?   I have an old debian system on here already. I have 2 HD's in the computer, and I was going to set up a dual boot system.23:29
astrommee-head: Yes, it's possible to put the installer image in your /boot and boot to it23:30
e-headCan I just d/l all the files somehow and do a chroot and start the installatin?23:30
astrommeI don't remember offhand where the docs are for that23:30
astrommee-head: it requires that you have a working wired net though23:30
e-headAhh... add an entry into my grub menu.1st or something?23:30
e-headYeah, I do.23:30
e-headI'll see if I can find something on it.23:30
szrhawaiihey atromme do you also know what the lib files for the kdesktop drawing feature for the background setting23:30
epimethHow do I list network folders in the "open folder" dialog?23:31
epimethkde4.223:31
epimetherm23:31
epimeth.123:31
epimethheh23:31
epimethwishful thinking23:31
astrommeszrhawaii: Sorry, no idea23:31
astrommeepimeth: network:// ?23:31
szrhawaiiok thanks anyways23:31
VistaUserszrhawaii silly question u from hawaii?23:31
szrhawaiiyeah23:32
astrommeepimeth: Or... smb:// or smb-browser:// ? Something like that...23:32
VistaUserme to :)23:32
szrhawaiicool23:32
epimethI want fish:// actually23:32
szrhawaiifrom oahu, aiea23:32
epimethbut its not working23:32
VistaUserKapolei her23:32
VistaUserhere*23:32
szrhawaiicool i lived in makakilo before23:32
VistaUsercool23:32
astrommeepimeth: Try putting the user in it. I.E. fish://astromme@network-server/path/to/folder23:32
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szrhawaiiso can anyone tell me if its worth upgrading to kde 4 yet23:33
epimethastromme, but I want a link to it on the left bar of the "open folder" dialog, like there was in kde3....23:33
VistaUserpeople say its to unstable23:33
VistaUserif i were u stick with 4.1.323:33
szrhawaiiyeah ive been hearing a lot of that23:33
estresszrhawaii23:33
dozerhi - I've just upgraded to kubuntu 8.10 and am having a couple of teathing problems23:34
astrommeYeah, what you can do is you can drag the any folder to that bar. Or, drag a folder, then right click it on the bar, hit properties and change the location23:34
szrhawaiiwhats up estres23:34
estresif you want  to work in something nice23:34
estresthis enviroment is reallylooking nice23:34
estresbut is not23:34
VistaUserwhich KDE4???23:34
astrommedozer: Alright, anything we can help with?23:34
estresworking good at all23:34
szrhawaiii got 3.5 with some 4.1 add ins but not the full upgrade23:34
e-headhey, I'm making some progree here.23:34
estresif make sometunning to your deskto23:34
estresdesktop23:35
szrhawaiii am slowly adding some features here and there23:35
e-headwhile I was chatting it rebooted and it looks like X is starting up.23:35
estresyou can brokit23:35
estresbroke it23:35
szrhawaiiwho me estres23:35
e-headI take it it automatically went into the demo/live CD thing.  Looks good. Looks sharp!  This is promising.  ;)23:35
epimeth"malformed URL" :-(23:35
astrommee-head: Alright, if that works, great23:35
epimethI'm thinking that the dialog might not be hooked into kio?23:35
estresand will havetodelete /home/user/.kde to get back in control of it23:36
estreslosing allyou changes23:36
dozerastromme - the two most anoying things are a) no irc in kopete, and b) my TV (connected through a VGA cable to my laptop) flashes off every 20 sec or so for a moment23:36
e-headwhat's the login/password?23:36
astrommeepimeth: give me the url you're trying23:36
epimethremote://23:36
e-headI wasn't paying attention.23:36
epimeth:-)23:36
epimethI dragged it in, like you said :-)23:36
astrommee-head: ubuntu and no password?23:36
epimethI tried that myself, too23:36
e-headthanks23:36
szrhawaiiyeah but i only download the extra features not the main base files23:36
epimethremote:/ actually... remote:// just doesn't show anything23:36
VistaUserestress u on KDE4?23:36
estresyes23:36
astrommedozer: For the second, go to System Settings -> Advanced -> Service Manager  and uncheck "Detecting Montior (XRANDR) Changes"23:37
estresI am ok KDE 4.123:37
szrhawaiii accidentally messed up and did that before though estres23:37
VistaUseris it worth the upgrade?23:37
szrhawaiibut i learned which ones work and which ones dont23:37
astrommeepimeth: is this a kde dialog or a gnome one?23:37
e-headit kicks me right back to the login menu.  it looks like it wants to start up or something, then kicks me right back.23:37
epimethI'm pretty much used to kde4.1, myself.  the only thing I really miss right now is the quicklaunch, but thats coming soon so it doesn't bother me.   I also had a problem with flickering, but the xrandr solution worked for me23:37
Lupus-SLEastromme: Is that is?23:37
epimethastromme: kde23:37
szrhawaiii like 3.5 i got mine running smoothly finally again23:38
estreswell Itoldyou guys is slower than pastversions but it looks nice23:38
astrommeLupus-SLE: What?23:38
dozerastromme: done - waiting to see if that's fixed it...23:38
e-headdamn.  I'm getting an "unable to read fragment cache block" and "page, block" now.  Geez!  It's just not my night.  ;)23:38
astrommedozer: you may have to restart x23:38
dozeryuo, i think so23:38
dozerback in a sec23:38
astrommeepimeth: do you want a specific folder or just the network in general?23:39
estresany one knows theport of the other chat rooms in spanish?23:39
VistaUsercan u get to KDE 4 by commands in terminal?23:39
astrommee-head: I might have some links for you. Give me a moment23:39
estreslike #ubuntu-es?23:39
astrommeVistaUser: I dont' understand23:39
epimethastromme: the entire network, yes.  I want to add it to the left side of the "open" dialog23:39
estresor like kubuntu-es23:39
estres#kubuntu-es23:40
szrhawaiiit might be23:40
epimethastromme: although in this specific case, I want to add a top level item to quanta, my home directory at work23:40
astrommeAnd it's not there already? I have a "Network" location on the left of my open dialogues23:40
VistaUserist KDE an desktop enviroment? how do i get to it?23:40
astrommeVistaUser: It's an option when you login. "Session Type" or something like that23:40
VistaUserok ty23:40
szrhawaiitheres a key stroke for it to23:41
szrhawaiijust forgot what it was23:41
estres#ubuntu-es23:41
astrommeepimeth: Oh, are you using kde4 or kde3?23:41
VistaUserok23:41
epimeth4.223:42
loganWHDso what u guys using to print to pdf in 8.1023:42
epimethgarr23:42
epimeth4.123:42
loganWHDi have cups installed but the blame thing doesnt put the files anywhere i can find23:42
e-headI'm playing hard ball with it now23:42
astrommeestres: Hmm... I can't find it atm. Something along the lines of "Ubuntu network install from grub"23:43
estresI just installed 8.10 and the KDE 4.1 cameupwith it23:45
epimethestres: yes, it did :-)23:45
astrommeloganWHD: You can just do it from the standard print dialog23:46
VistaUserhow do u upgrade 4.1 to 4.2?23:46
astrommeloganWHD: cups might put it to ~/PDF23:46
loganWHDhrmm, i dont think so astromme unless i am missing it23:46
loganWHDyah i created a PDF dir but nothing goes there23:47
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estresI do not recomend to install beta versions23:47
astrommeIf you're in a gnome app (i.e. firefox) it won't have the kde pdf printer23:47
epimethastromme: you given up on me? P:-)23:47
rrodrigueshi23:47
rrodrigueshi pt23:47
astrommeepimeth: Still searching, had to use the restroom23:47
loganWHDno just standard files  want to print23:47
VistaUserwere i get KDE beta 4.2 or w/e23:48
rrodriguesasterisk anyone using in kubuntu?23:48
epimethVistaUser: the packages aren't in the repository yet... its will be available within the month.  However, you can install the nightlies using neon, but I wouldn't suggest it just yet23:48
VistaUserok ty23:48
astrommeloganWHD: What application?23:48
loganWHDlike openoffice23:49
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szrhawaiilike kpdf23:49
szrhawaii#kbfx23:50
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astrommeloganWHD: openoffice is also gtk-based. (i.e. not using kde print system)23:50
e-headHey, do you guys know of a program I can use on Windows to check the md5sum text file in the root of the CD?23:50
astrommeloganWHD: Sorry =/. It's not in the cups realm and I don't know much about cups pdf printing. Mine (in the old days) went to ~/PDF23:50
loganWHDok23:51
loganWHDthnaks23:51
Dillizarhi23:51
dr_willise-head,  there are md5sum tools for windows.. check   the various windows download sites/google.. i dont rember the names of any.. one added a 'check md5sum contest menu item'23:51
Dillizardoes anybody use Opera??23:51
szrhawaiii thought thats where they always go unless they specify differently astromme23:51
VistaUseris there another web browser faster than firefox?23:52
epimethVistaUser: if you do want it anyway, http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?action=printpage;topic=3099334.023:52
epimethVistaUser: yea, chrome... but its not available for mac and linux yet, tho you could probably install it with wine23:52
szrhawaiikonqueror works fine for kde23:52
epimethI think firefox is faster than konqui23:52
Dillizarepimeth, nope cant with wine :P23:52
epimethawww23:53
szrhawaiii like both23:53
epimeth:-(23:53
epimethpooh23:53
VistaUseri want chrome so badly23:53
epimethszrhawaii: its a personal choice :-)23:53
szrhawaiii use firefox mostly and it is pretty quick23:53
copprofirefox is fine23:53
DillizarVistaUser, they say safari is the fastest23:53
copproI can't wait for the new JS engine23:53
epimethVistaUser: yea, I'm waiting very impatient23:53
dr_willisI dont see much use for chrome. :)  i just make firefox fullscreen...23:53
VistaUserfirefox is more faster because each tab is a new process23:53
szrhawaiii think it might just be your connection rather tan you browser23:53
epimethdr_willis: its JS engine is muuuuch faster and doesn't leak23:54
VistaUserif a tab laggs or close the browser doesnt23:54
astrommeepimeth: Aha! Check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux midway down the page at "Alternate CD Alternate Method"23:54
dr_willisI normally disable JS. :P23:54
copproI do run noscript23:54
copprobut there's tons of pages that need it23:54
dr_willisI have so many FF extensions - i cant hardly surf without them23:54
dr_williscoppro,  yep.  sadly23:54
astrommePersonally I use konqueror (x86-64) but that's because I don't need flash nor gmail (imap in kontact ftw) and so konq is nice and lean and fast23:54
astrommeflash does work in konq... sometimes. Sometimes it's sketchy23:55
* dr_willis wonders how one benchmarks these browsers to determine what ones are 'fast'23:55
VistaUseri cant wait till ubuntu or w/e is supported with all my favorite apps23:55
epimethastromme: you sure that link was meant for me?23:55
szrhawaiiyeah thats true astromme23:55
astrommeVistaUser: FIrefox has a new *thread* for each tab. Chrome has a new *process* for each tab23:55
VistaUseroo ok23:55
astrommeepimeth: Possibly not. There are two names with e here.. hmm23:56
VistaUserooo limewire still works :)23:56
szrhawaiihaha you still use that23:56
VistaUseryes y?23:56
VistaUseris there something better?23:56
szrhawaiithats probably why your comp is slow23:56
* Secutor is away: Gone away for now.23:56
astrommee-head: Aha! Check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux midway down the page at "Alternate CD Alternate Method"23:56
VistaUserwhat do u use?23:56
szrhawaiii use torrents23:56
astrommeepimith: Can you again describe to me where you are and what you want working that isn't with the network folders?23:57
VistaUserlol i cant do that for songs that i like on our radio station23:57
szrhawaiii do it for those all the time23:57
szrhawaiiand all the movies and programs23:57
VistaUserwhat torrent download do u use?23:57
szrhawaiii use the k torrent but you go to websites to download them23:58
VistaUserooo sounds like a hassel to find a song23:58
szrhawaiilike mininova.org, piratebay.org23:58
VistaUseroo23:58
VistaUseri use torrents for movie basacilly23:58
VistaUseri heard frostwire is ok23:59
szrhawaiiuse it for music i use it and i always get the good stuff23:59
szrhawaiiits the same as limewire23:59
dr_willisFrostwire and such are so... 200623:59
dr_willis:)23:59
VistaUseri know but its blue :)23:59
szrhawaiihaha23:59
epimethastromme: do you have quanta installed?23:59
szrhawaiigood difference23:59

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