[00:03] <pihl> Is there any reason (or likely way) that my direct rendering would fail with the recent kernel upgrade (fairly new ATI card)? I'm still using KDE 3.5, but the redrawing of windows and overall performance have gone down massively to render the OS practically unusable.
[00:04] <roland> _2: that site seems to be outdated
[00:04] <roland> or maybe not
[00:04] <Lokiase> Hello, i am connected with my WD MyBook World edition via Samba, I give my pasword when I want to go into a dir, and that works fine. But when I want to paste a file in it, it fails, WHYYY? :s
[00:04] <_2> roland should still work.
[00:07] <roland> _2: can't find flashplugin-nonfree in adept
[00:07] <alex_21> Hi, I need to use wireless on an Acer. How do I set up the drivers? Also how do you use a screen reader? I am on 8.10
[00:07] <_2> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[00:07] <_2> roland it's in multiverse
[00:07] <Lokiase>  Hello, i am connected with my WD MyBook World edition via Samba, I give my pasword when I want to go into a dir, and that works fine. But when I want to paste a file in it, it fails, WHYYY? :s
[00:08] <roland> how to i get to multiverse?
[00:09] <_2> !repos
[00:09] <roland> well i enabled it already
[00:10] <alex_21> So my wireless on the Acer with II, how does that driver get installed?
[00:11] <mister-tea> what card?
[00:12] <mister-tea> alex_21:  what card?
[00:12] <Lokiase> Hello, i am connected with my WD MyBook World edition via Samba, I give my pasword when I want to go into a dir, and that works fine. But when I want to paste a file in it, it fails, WHYYY? :s
[00:12] <alex_21> I really don't know. I have an older acer laptop
[00:12] <alex_21> 13 inch with 512 mb ram
[00:13] <mister-tea> go to terminal and type lspci
[00:13] <mister-tea> unless it's usb
[00:13] <kr0n05> would a Seagate ST31000340AS 1TB Barracuda Sata 7200 Rpm 32MB Cache 8.5MS Hard Drive work with any computer made after the year 2006?
[00:14] <kr0n05> I all I need for this is a SATA controller, SATA cables, and an enclosure, right?
[00:14] <alex_21> Well what should I do first. The thing won't connect over a wire either, and I need to download gnome to go into terminal as I need orca
[00:14] <mister-tea> konsole or the shell of you choice will work
[00:15] <_2> kr0n05 #hardware might be a better venue for that question
[00:15] <kr0n05> ah, thank you :)
[00:16] <alex_21> Well, see, I need orca, the screen reader to use terminal
[00:16] <alex_21> Unless II includes a screen reader
[00:16] <mister-tea> are you running kubuntu
[00:16] <roland> i'm unable the find the place to enable nvidia restricted drivers
[00:16] <alex_21> Yes
[00:16] <mister-tea> thne use konsole
[00:17] <_2> roland ummm i thought that was default now?
[00:17] <mister-tea> !nvidia
[00:17] <alex_21> well, I need a screen reader, does a screen reader exist for KDE
[00:17] <mister-tea> you have no screen?
[00:18] <alex_21> I can't get out onto the internet, so I need something to read my screen so I can get into Konsol
[00:18] <alex_21> I am blind MR. T
[00:18] <mister-tea> you don't need internet to run konsole
[00:18] <_2> screen reader = text to speach converter ???
[00:18] <mister-tea> oh my bad
[00:18] <alex_21> No, a full fledged screen reader
[00:18] <_2> alex_21 ksayit i think.
[00:18] <alex_21> KTTS doesn't work
[00:19] <_2> oh,  ok.
[00:19] <roland> i can't find retricted manager in system settings -> advanced
[00:19] <alex_21> No worries, I should have said something
[00:19] <mister-tea> alex_21:  this is a first for me sorry
[00:20] <asclepius> Hey guys did anyone buy that rocketfish bluetooth mouse and keyboard from bestbuy?
[00:20] <The-Compiler> alex_21: maybe you could try Orca? I haven't tried it before though
[00:20] <alex_21> No worries, Mr. T, I am just going to run and get the kubuntu machine and I'll try KSayit
[00:20] <_2> !info orca
[00:21] <asclepius> Does anyone know how to get bluetooth to automaticlly find the mouse and keyboard on bootup?
[00:21] <dstambou> For some reason after my  screen locks, kde will not accept my password to unlock the screen
[00:21] <dstambou> any ideas what to look for? :]
[00:22] <alex_21> What? No Orca in Ubuntu 8.10?
[00:22] <mister-tea> alex_21:  I found this https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SpeakupInclusion
[00:22] <marek_> hello, can you help me with bluez?
[00:23] <_2> dstambou check the process table to make sure that the screen is locked by you and not by superuser ?
[00:23] <MHz128> how do I run a kde app with root priv?
[00:23] <_2> !kdesudo | MHz128
[00:23] <The-Compiler> _2, alex_21: the package is named "gnome-orca"
[00:24]  * mister-tea realizes that might not help without internet
[00:24] <_2> The-Compiler ah.  so is there a kde version ?
[00:24] <The-Compiler> _2: shouldn't matter if it runs under Gnome or KDE
[00:25] <_2> The-Compiler just thinking of the extra packages it will pull in being a gah-no-me app
[00:26] <Guest33357> hola
[00:26] <_2> ubottu is is is
[00:26] <kurumin> portugurs???
[00:26] <_2> !pt
[00:27] <kurumin> tem alguem ai
[00:27] <_2> !en | kurumin
[00:27] <alex_21> It does matter. It only reads in Gnome. It is something about how it interacts with GNome applications
[00:28] <_2> alex_21 ah, confirmation; i suspected that, but was not about to voice my ignorance about it...
[00:29] <dstambou> _2: what process should I be looking for?
[00:29] <mister-tea> alex_21: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SpeakupInclusion you can download speakup here but it is depending on internet
[00:29] <_2> dstambou *screen*
[00:29] <alex_21> My screen now flickers and goes out while loading KDE
[00:30] <mister-tea> how do you know that?
[00:30] <_2> dstambou pstree   # might help     i'm also not sure that it isn't a bug, you might check the bug reports too
[00:30] <alex_21> Nerver mind, that is a battery issue
[00:30] <_2> !bug | dstambou
[00:31] <alex_21> I can see a very little bit
[00:31] <mister-tea> alex_21: according to what I read speakup is the screen reader for kde
[00:31] <_2> !info speakup
[00:32] <mister-tea> can you download it to a usb stick or cd and put it on the machine in question
[00:33] <alex_21> I'm back, I ran and got my power brick
[00:33] <mister-tea> ouch the install is a bear
[00:34] <_2> a beer ?    oh a bear !       pwehw
[00:34]  * mister-tea wonders about the logic of making an accesibility software so difficult to install
[00:34] <dstambou> _2: hrmm, I killed krunner_lock and it brought me back to my session
[00:34] <dstambou> _2: but the process is owned by me
[00:35] <_2> dstambou then it's probably a bug,  what versions do    kwin --version   give you?
[00:35] <dstambou> qt 4.4.3 / kde&kwin 4.1.81
[00:35] <mister-tea> alex_21: can you tell me the exact model of your lappy and I'll try to google the specs
[00:36] <alex_21> Bad problem, no sound either
[00:36] <_2> dstambou ok.   care to either check if there is already one, or file a bug report on that process ?
[00:36] <mister-tea> oh man your killing me
[00:36] <alex_21> And the screen keeps flickering
[00:36] <_2> !bug > dstambou
[00:37] <roland> why doesn't adept show all packages?
[00:37] <dstambou> _2: no problem
[00:37] <mister-tea> alex_21: alright tell me all you know about it
[00:37] <Rioting_pacifist> I was running gdb vtt1 then the program crashed and i started up a 2nd xorg server to figure out what to do with the backtrace, but now tty is completly blank
[00:38] <_2> mister-tea it might help him help you if you take that to pm   i don't know how fast his app can read what the channel says
[00:39] <mister-tea> k will do
[00:39] <alex_21> Acer Aspire 3624WXMi
[00:40] <_2> Rioting_pacifist which tty is blank ?
[00:40] <_2> Rioting_pacifist tty1 ?
[00:41] <Rioting_pacifist> tty1 and 7 has my crashed program running in xorg
[00:41] <alex_21> Voiceover keeps up great with the channel at the rate I am putting it up to, but I appreciate a PM
[00:41] <_2> Rioting_pacifist ok. you do know that when you switch tty's you lose the scroll back buffer for that tty don't you ?
[00:42] <reggie> hey folks i'm new to gnome and i was trying to change the icon theme but for the life of me i cant figure out how to do it
[00:42] <Rioting_pacifist> _2: no i didnt lol panic over
[00:42] <lolren> hy
[00:42] <lolren> i got a question
[00:42] <reggie> in kde i know exactly where to go to do that but gnome seems to have that hidden well
[00:42] <_2> Rioting_pacifist i mean you would need text inputed into a filter like less or screen if you need to switch tty's and still have more than one screen full of output
[00:43] <reggie> does amyone know how to change the theme
[00:43] <Dr_willis_> reggie   well thats a question for #ubuntu :) but in short.. I fire up the gnome theme manager tool. access the icon theme tab.. and drag/drop new icon themes to it. :) that installs them. If thats what you mean..
[00:44] <timo_> moin moin
[00:44] <reggie> so just drag and drop the tarball package?
[00:44] <Dr_willis_> reggie  or use that  'gnome-art' tool.
[00:44] <Dr_willis_> reggie  yep.
[00:44] <Dr_willis_> assuming its packaged right
[00:44] <reggie> hummm let me try it
[00:44] <reggie> thanx one sec
[00:44] <_2> Rioting_pacifist the reason behind that is that the kernel supports multiple ttys but the vidio chip only has one textmode buffer,  and while it is the size of the vidio ram, it clears each time the screen is reset.
[00:44] <lolren> i have a laptop ..... is not my laptop... is my girlfriend laptop and she`s got vista, i instaled ubuntu with wubi in d: drive but i dont see d: drive from linux.... does anyone knowes why?
[00:45] <asclepius> anyone know to get bluetooth to autoconnect?
[00:45] <Dr_willis_> lolren  because you have to mount the windows drives to allow linux to access them
[00:45] <reggie> hummm that didnt work
[00:45] <lolren> i know that but i cant see them in /dev
[00:45] <Dr_willis_> reggie  what theme file and whats the url you got it from?
[00:46] <lolren> brb 1 sec 1 have a idea....
[00:46] <Dr_willis_> lolren  try 'sudo fdisk -l' and see whats seen
[00:46] <Rioting_pacifist> _2:  i never noticed that because most stuff just stays but as i was running gdb it set the whole thing to black thnkx for the help
[00:46] <reggie> i downloaded the icon theme from the gnome website
[00:46] <_2> Rioting_pacifist welcome
[00:47] <lolren> /dev/sda1               1         192     1536000   27  Unknown
[00:47] <lolren> Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
[00:48] <lolren> i ntfs
[00:48] <_2> Rioting_pacifist and the stuff displayes (as in without scrolling up) should stay put. that's in kernel ram but the scroll back buffer is cleared each change of tty   the scroll back is in vidio ram not system ram.    i hope i haven't done more to confuse than to help.
[00:51] <Rioting_pacifist> _2:  not at all its always good to learn new thing
[00:53] <_2> Rioting_pacifist i had a lappy with ati everything,  that the driver was not fully supporting the chip and it would clear the textmode buffer without reseting it, affecting all tty's when you switched in/out of vidio mode,  and thus one switch to tty7(xorg) and back made tty1 ~ tty6 all black even tought when you start typing the text would appear everything above it was cleared from sight.    that was a vidio driver issue and not n
[00:55] <Rioting_pacifist> im using a similar setup, why do the ttys use video drivers though?
[00:57] <_2> Rioting_pacifist they don't, xorg does, kernel frame buffer does(the boot splash thingy), and things like svgalibs do(support for graphical mode without xorg).   it's normally the switching from vidio mode to textmode or even from one vidio mode to another vidio mode that hoses things.
[00:57] <mrksbrd> anyone know how to set up remote printing (ie... thru WiFi to a printer attatched to another linux box)?
[00:58]  * mrksbrd summons genii
[00:58] <Dr_willis_> cups configuration should/can see all other cups servers
[00:59] <Rioting_pacifist> mrksbrd: something like samba might work for an easy setup, but figuring out cups is probably the better way to do it
[00:59] <mrksbrd> do i set it up via tcp there is several settings to choose
[01:00] <mrksbrd> i had it working when the other machine was a winblows xp box.....but not it is a linux
[01:00] <mrksbrd> *now
[01:00] <_2> Rioting_pacifist the vidio chip has to be put into a different MODE for normal text display 80char_wide*25line_high@16colour, or graphical mode width*hight@depth aka vidio mode
[01:01] <_2> it's the transition that normally causes problems if there are any.
[01:01] <mrksbrd> should linux show a share under "network" in system settings/
[01:01] <djg9282> can anyone tell me how i can get an embedded sound from the internet onto my harddrive? i am using mplayer plugin to play embedded files like a wma file...but i'd like to get it saved to hard drive any ideas?
[01:02] <_2> !samba | mrksbrd depends on the share.
[01:03] <Dr_willis_> embedded? Embedded in what?
[01:03] <_2> mrksbrd linux to linux, most people just use something like ssh and the fish:// protocal
[01:03] <Rioting_pacifist> also under kde3 there is a nice tool to do samba stuff, dont know about kde4 though
[01:04] <djg9282> like for instance...if i go to yankees.com and i go to hear a audio file...it brings it up through mplayer..but i don't know how to save as...i thought maybe going through a program like ardour and then hitting record...that would then record the sound file going through my speakers, but that won't help either
[01:04] <_2> thefish:// is nice.
[01:04] <mrksbrd> i don't think i need samba though....now windows boxes on network anymore
[01:04] <alex_21> Hi,
[01:04] <_2> mrksbrd ssh is for you.
[01:04] <_2> !ssh
[01:04] <mrksbrd> alright i'll look into it
[01:05] <mrksbrd> ty
[01:05] <alex_21> I want to go back to Hardy, but on the Acer Aspire 362WXMi, I can't get wireless
[01:05] <_2> welcome
[01:05] <Dr_willis_> mrksbrd  last time i had 2 linux machines with printers i checked the cups settings on one.. and it automatically saw the cups server on the other box.. its possible ubuntu hs some security setup to not show it.. ive not used a setup like that in  a while
[01:05] <mrksbrd> k
[01:06] <_2> oh did he say printer ?    i must have missed that
[01:06] <Ashex> *sigh* my system has issues
[01:06] <Ashex> it's gotten to the point of where I need to take my online tests for a class, but I'm afraid the browser will freeze up
[01:06] <mrksbrd> lol....yea trying to print wirelessly to a printer on another linux box
[01:07] <_2> mrksbrd sorry.  i didn't see the "printer" question.   just went from the "should linux show a share..." posting...  my bad.    cups it is.
[01:07] <Ashex> hooray for Arch :p
[01:09] <Rioting_pacifist> Ashex: what is causing the issues? binary dirvers? flash? which browser?
[01:10] <Ashex> Rioting_pacifist, it's both Opera and Firefox
[01:10] <Ashex> flash runs slowly, same for java and javascript
[01:10] <Ashex> any type of rendering is slow and not very responsive
[01:10] <_2> alex_21 i would think that the L T S releases would be better suited and better supported for special cases like your own.    hardy is LTS by the way.
[01:10] <Ashex> applications are also slow to load, it's not an issue with hardware either
[01:11] <Ashex> just some elusive slowdown with the system as a whole
[01:11] <Rioting_pacifist> Ashex: what release are you on? have you tried lookng at top or htop to see whats causing it?
[01:11] <Ashex> Rioting_pacifist, I noticed just how bad it was when I setup Arch linux on my T42 and it renders pages faster
[01:12] <Ashex> Rioting_pacifist, I'm using Intrepid
[01:12] <Ashex> top 3 in top are firefox, mpd, and artsd
[01:12] <_2> iftop too
[01:12] <_2> !info iftop
[01:13] <Ashex> I use bwm-ng, I have by downloads limited to 600KB/s
[01:13] <Ashex> my*
[01:13] <KiDFlaSh> hey guys how can i remove the hotkey for decrease volume?
[01:13] <Ashex> it's also when I'm not downloading anything
[01:13] <KiDFlaSh> pls
[01:13] <KiDFlaSh> i need this help
[01:14] <alex_21> Yes, I am going back to Hardy
[01:14] <_2> heh. #1 in htop is htop on my system   hehhe
[01:14] <Ashex> KiDFlaSh, System Settings> Keyboard&Mouse>Keyboard Shortcuts
[01:14] <_2> or in kde3   just run  khotkeys
[01:15] <Ashex> that too
[01:15] <Rioting_pacifist> Ashex: sounds like a sound problem, do you have any sound issues?
[01:15] <Ashex> I'm waiting for kde 4.1 beta to get pushed into the repos
[01:16] <Ashex> Rioting_pacifist, nope, never had any
[01:16] <_2> 4.1 ?   or 4.2 ?
[01:16] <Ashex> _2, 4.2, my mistake :p
[01:16] <_2> !kde4
[01:17] <Ashex> _2, this is a snippet of top: http://pastebin.ca/1270729
[01:18] <_2> all this hurry hurry hurry get a new version out quick, non-sense really needs put in it's place.   a new version is worth nothing if it's not a genuine improvement.
[01:18] <Ashex> _2, I take it you haven't read the release notes for 4.2
[01:19]  * _2 was talking about ubuntu in general not just kde
[01:19] <Rioting_pacifist> i think they have made some good changes in the move to kde4 but i simply dont see the need for them over kde3 its like xp -> vista a lot of hastle for very little benifit
[01:20] <alex_21> Ok, Burning the disk
[01:21] <Ashex> _2, I agree on that point :p
[01:21] <_2> Ashex so mpd is eating 18% cpu time?
[01:21] <alex_21> Waiting.. I am going back
[01:21]  * _2 wonders what mpd is...
[01:21] <alex_21> Back to 8.04
[01:21] <Rioting_pacifist> !mpd
[01:22] <alex_21> Besides my own distro will be based on 8.04
[01:22] <Rioting_pacifist> media mplayer demon or something like that its a CLI media player IRRC
[01:22] <Ashex> _2, media player daemon
[01:22] <Ashex> what Rioting_pacifist said
[01:22] <Ashex> you can use whatever client you want with it
[01:22] <_2> Ashex and you are playing ?
[01:23] <Ashex> _2, flac audio right now
[01:25] <alex_21> Well, on another note, what  is better for doing this. I want to play music from my firefly server and other ITunes libraries on my LAN. Is Songbird, ATunes, amerock, or something else better for sighted users who have used ITunes and really don't know much about computing, so I want the closest thing
[01:25] <_2> hmmm and your cpu is  ?
[01:25] <alex_21> I mean the closest visual thing
[01:26] <Ashex> _2, AMD Athlon X2 2.6Ghz
[01:26] <Ashex> alex_21, you want something similar to itunes?
[01:26] <alex_21> Yes, visually similar
[01:27] <_2> Ashex  that media player if not doing a lot of visual affects is pretty heavy.   sox playing .ogg files on a 1ghz copper mine  is using less than 10% of my cpu time  ;/
[01:27] <Ashex> Alex135_, the default music player for ubuntu should do it
[01:27] <Ashex> I'm blanking on the name
[01:28] <_2> amarock
[01:28] <_2> !amaroc
[01:28] <_2> !info amaroc
[01:28] <_2> pfft.
[01:28] <Dillizar> !amarock
[01:29] <Dillizar> !amarok
[01:29] <Ashex> _2, it's spelled amarok
[01:29] <_2> !info amarok
[01:29] <Ashex> _2, well sure, .ogg is a different format from flac
[01:29] <Dillizar> who is asking for a player ??
[01:29] <Dillizar> and what for
[01:30] <Dillizar> cuz i have installed allllll the players :)
[01:30] <Dillizar> and all the IMs :)
[01:30] <Ashex> Dillizar, congratulations?
[01:30] <Dillizar> lol
[01:30] <Dillizar> i know
[01:30] <Dillizar> and all browsers
[01:31] <Ashex> thank you for sharing
[01:31] <alex_21> So arerock, perfect
[01:31] <alex_21> Amerock you say, I'll try
[01:31] <Dr_willis_> amarock
[01:31] <Dillizar> alex_21, you want a audio player??
[01:31] <Ashex> It is spelled Amarok
[01:31] <alex_21> Yes, visually similar to ITunes
[01:31] <Dillizar> then
[01:31] <Dillizar> bashidou
[01:32] <Dillizar> or smt like that
[01:32] <Dillizar> wait
[01:32] <Ashex> Alex135_, amarok isn't
[01:32] <Ashex> you mean banshee?
[01:32] <Alex135_> Ashex: nice
[01:33] <_2> bill is the space bar linked to the enter key on your setup ?
[01:33] <Ashex> alex_21, you want to try out rhythmbox
[01:33] <Dillizar> banshee alex_21
[01:33] <Dillizar> this is the most similar
[01:34] <Ashex> Alex135, my bad, meant to go to alex_21 :P
[01:35] <Alex135> Ashex: ya, happens most of the time ;)
[01:35] <Alex135> Ashex: oh well, i become popular via that method at any rate, you should see me in ##club-ubuntu, im almost alwase called on by accident
[01:35] <Ashex> hehe
[01:35] <Ashex> Alex135, on other servers I go by Generic, you should see how often I'm mentioned :p
[01:36] <Dillizar> alex_21, adn it works with Ipods and Iphone
[01:36] <mister-tea> Alex135:  what time is it there? there I called you on purpose
[01:37]  * mister-tea wants everyone to feel needed
[01:38] <Ashex> What about the emo kids who want to be left alone?
[01:38]  * _2 thought he had a thought, but then he wot it was a wot
[01:38] <_2> wot=waste of time
[01:38] <Dillizar> wot?
[01:38] <Dillizar> ok
[01:38] <Dillizar> :P
[01:38] <Dillizar> :P~~~
[01:38] <Ashex> dribble?
[01:39] <Dillizar> but wot is a word:P
[01:39] <_2> and an acronymn
[01:40] <jussi01> hrm, perhaps we can get back on topic now?
[01:40] <Dillizar> what is the topic?
[01:40] <Ashex> bah
[01:40] <jussi01> !topic
[01:40] <Ashex> Please take any non kubuntu discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:41] <mister-tea> !ot
[01:41] <Dillizar> wait
[01:42] <Dillizar> if i upgrade the 8.04 to 8.10 will my kernel be changed ??
[01:42] <Ashex> Dillizar, yes, the previous kernels are preserved though
[01:42] <_2> yeah huh
[01:42] <Dr_willis_> Dillizar  i would say yes...
[01:42] <Ashex> you can select the previous kernel during boot
[01:43] <Dillizar> oh well i already installed a fresh 8.10 but its good to know cuz this new kernel doesnt support anything
[01:43] <_2> wait i have a question,   if i remove /sys  how does it break usb ?
[01:43] <Ashex> _2, why do you want to remove /sys?
[01:43] <Dr_willis_> remove /sys ? egads
[01:43] <Dillizar> so i can have old kernel but new kde??
[01:44] <Ashex> Dillizar, yes
[01:44] <Dr_willis_> If you dont want kde4 - dont upgrade... :)
[01:44] <Dillizar> :D
[01:44]  * mister-tea don't upgrade gets my vote
[01:46] <_2> Ashex reason matters not.  question remains, how did it break usb ?
[01:47] <roland> i'm having problems with nvidia restricted modules
[01:47] <Ashex> !sys
[01:48] <Ashex> _2, I believe udev relies on it
[01:48] <roland> when tring to enable it, i get an error... Title :"Sorry" with an empty box
[01:49] <burn_> anyone know any proxy for linux that can be run from K menu?
[01:49]  * mister-tea well at least it's polite
[01:49] <_2> Ashex but i don't use udev so that's not the problem.
[01:49] <Ashex> _2, udev isn't the only thing that does, It's a major part of the system, I just can't think of a reason atm
[01:50] <_2> Ashex the device nodes are all there in /dev/ and the modules are all inserted but without /sys  mount /dev/sda1 /mnt  fails miserably.
[01:50] <_2> i'm trying to wrap my head around why
[01:55] <Ashex> _2, I'm not entirely sure, reason I can't answer is because having /sys is slightly out of standard
[01:55] <Ashex> _2, you're question is better asked in ##linux
[01:56] <_2> Ashex or in #kernel
[01:56] <Ashex> that too
[01:58] <Dr_willis_>  How about ##leetLinuxHaxoring :)
[01:58] <mikeblack_> http://deine-nackte-weihnachtsfrau.net/?id=2667561
[02:06] <Dillizar> how about www.letmegooglethatforyou.com
[02:11] <Dillizar> what nobody has a problem?? :P
[02:11] <cuznt> yes
[02:11] <_2> Dillizar get back on topic.
[02:11] <Lex79> LoL
[02:11] <Dillizar> :(
[02:11]  * Dillizar gets back on topic 
[02:14]  * Dillizar is waiting for a problem 
[02:34] <roland> Dillizar: i have a problem
[02:34] <roland> i'm having problems with nvidia restricted modules
[02:34] <roland> when tring to enable it, i get an error... Title :"Sorry" with an empty box
[02:34] <Dillizar> sorry dunno
[02:40] <KiDFlaSh> I cant hear Musik or YouTube with usbheadset why ?
[02:40] <KiDFlaSh> Alsa dont have powers?
[02:42] <jussi01> KiDFlaSh: which version of kubuntu are you using?
[02:42] <jussi01> Hardy or intrepid?
[02:42] <KiDFlaSh> 8.10
[02:43] <Dillizar> KiDFlaSh, maybe if you close all other audio and video players will work !
[02:44] <Dillizar> or smt if you are calling some one on skype flash sound will not work
[02:44] <KiDFlaSh> wtf?
[02:44] <KiDFlaSh> no im calling nobody
[02:44] <Dillizar> are you listening to music
[02:44] <Dillizar> or smt like that
[02:44] <jussi01> KiDFlaSh: no, its simple, go to system settings, sounds, and raise the importance of the usb headset there
[02:44] <KiDFlaSh> i already done that
[02:44] <KiDFlaSh> jussi
[02:44] <jussi01> Dillizar: that shouldnt affect it
[02:45] <KiDFlaSh> thats the problem
[02:45] <GGoby> I have 8.10 installed and just installed samba...however I run Kubuntu under vmware workstation...it has assigned me a ip of 192.168.237.129 and the rest of my lan is on 192.168.1.XX  what is the best way to allow clients from this ip range to access the samba shares? I am unfamiliar with connections on different subnets
[02:45] <Dillizar> well it did affect me :P
[02:46] <Dillizar> KiDFlaSh,
[02:46] <jussi01> KiDFlaSh: try this in terminal: asoundconf list
[02:46] <Dillizar> try closeing all other players and try again :P
[02:46] <jussi01> then: asoundconf set-default-card <cardname>
[02:46] <KiDFlaSh> there are to
[02:46] <KiDFlaSh> two
[02:47] <KiDFlaSh> SI7012
[02:47] <KiDFlaSh> and default
[02:47] <jussi01> KiDFlaSh: likely its called "Headset"
[02:47] <jussi01> KiDFlaSh: is it only not working ion flash? or elsewhere also?
[02:47] <KiDFlaSh> amarok and flash
[02:48] <jussi01> KiDFlaSh: and youve set it to highest priority in all the categories in system settings - sounds?
[02:48] <KiDFlaSh> yes
[02:48] <KiDFlaSh> ALL categories
[02:49] <jussi01> KiDFlaSh: 1 moment
[02:51] <Walzmyn> I tried turning the desktop effects on in KDE4 - now the screen is black. How can i fix this?
[02:51] <alex_21> Hi, I am back, just reinstalled
[02:51] <jussi01> KiDFlaSh: and you have restarted both firefox/konq and amarok after changing the settings?
[02:52] <Dillizar> alex_21, you are the one wiht the itunes
[02:52] <Dillizar> *with
[02:52] <alex_21> what is the festival package called in the Hardy Repository
[02:52] <alex_21> ?
[02:53] <alex_21> Yes, I am
[02:53] <alex_21> Gnome-festival?
[02:53] <Dillizar> so is the client working good
[02:53] <alex_21> Which client?
[02:53] <Dillizar> ahhh
[02:54] <Dillizar> you were searching for a program that looks like Itunes
[02:54] <Dillizar> yes
[02:54] <alex_21> Banshee, I am not sure, no users are around to test it
[02:54] <KiDFlaSh> yes jussi01 i have
[02:54] <Dillizar> i have tested :P
[02:54] <alex_21> Is that the one you mean?
[02:54] <Dillizar> yes
[02:55] <Dillizar> it works good i am useing it right now
[02:55] <Dillizar> and supports ipods
[02:56] <alex_21> Yes, that is cool, it supports IPods
[02:56] <alex_21> IPods, Yay
[02:56] <Dillizar> yes
[02:56] <alex_21> Do you guys know if it supports the speech feature of the chromatic IPods?
[02:56] <alex_21> IPods
[02:58] <Dillizar> Banshee?
[02:58] <alex_21> Something is wrong with my network, it is 11KB persecond, when it can handle 10MegaBits persecond
[02:58] <alex_21> Yes, can Banshee handle that feature?
[02:58] <Dillizar> try it out
[02:58] <Dillizar> :D
[02:59] <alex_21> I will, as soon as Banshee finishes downloadind
[02:59] <alex_21> I said there is something wrong with my network
[02:59] <Dillizar> maybe its just your internet that is slow
[02:59] <Dillizar> :P
[03:01] <alex_21> It can handle 10 MegaBits per second, and is only handling 11 KB per second
[03:01] <alex_21> It is set up like this
[03:02] <Dillizar> dunno
[03:02] <Dillizar> try sudo pppoeconf
[03:02] <Dillizar> again and set it
[03:03] <Dillizar> if its a pppoe modem
[03:03] <alex_21> A Ubuntu DHCP server plugged into a 16 port 100/10 port switch. A Lynksys router, the gateway, plugged into the switch. The main internet line goes into the WAN port on the router. The rest of the machines are conncected via the switch, except my laptop which is connected via wire to the Lynksys router
[03:03] <Dillizar> there is your problem
[03:04] <Dillizar> JUST PUT THE DAMN MODEM CABLE IN YOUR LAN
[03:04] <Dillizar> :D
[03:04] <Dillizar> you are sharing your internet
[03:04] <alex_21> I don't have enough IP addresses to feed all the machines directly from the cable internet
[03:05] <alex_21> And it is only three machines running right now, and one of them is only using IRC
[03:05] <KiDFlaSh> jussi01: still hereß
[03:05] <Dillizar> lol KiDFlaSh
[03:05] <Dillizar> :D
[03:05] <alex_21> It used to be fast before I introduced the central switch
[03:06] <alex_21> Now each machine adverages about 11 KB per second
[03:06] <Dillizar> remove the central switch
[03:07] <alex_21> Can I set it up differently, like have the dhcp server plugged directly into the router
[03:07] <Dillizar> or just take a wifi router
[03:07] <alex_21> Or will that not make a difference
[03:07] <Dillizar> :D
[03:07] <alex_21> ?
[03:07] <Dillizar> dunno i just put the cable in my pc sudo pppoeconf
[03:07] <Dillizar> yes
[03:08] <Dillizar> yes
[03:08] <Dillizar> yes
[03:08] <Dillizar> username
[03:08] <Dillizar> password
[03:08] <Dillizar> yes
[03:08] <Dillizar> yes
[03:08] <Dillizar> DONE
[03:08] <Dillizar> :)
[03:08] <alex_21> If I remove the central switch, all eight connections that can share the internet at any given time won't be active, Frown
[03:08] <_2> !enter
[03:09] <alex_21> Now it dropped to 5343 Bytes per second
[03:10] <Dillizar> dunno
[03:10] <alex_21> 5346, sorry
[03:10] <Dillizar> try to connect to one pc and see if there are still problems
[03:11] <Dillizar> i must go its 04.10.45 AM and i am sleepy
[03:11] <burn__> Dillizar is from europe :D
[03:11] <Dillizar> yes
[03:11] <Dillizar> :D
[03:11] <burn__> gtm +2 :D
[03:12] <burn__> neighbour :D
[03:12] <Dillizar> gmt+1
[03:12] <Dillizar> where are you from bulgaristan
[03:12] <burn__> bulgaria :D
[03:12] <burn__> am from Serbia
[03:12] <Dillizar> pa so ne kazes
[03:12] <Dillizar> :D
[03:12] <burn__> hehe :D
[03:12] <Dillizar> idam jas za belgrad za nekoj den
[03:12] <Dillizar> zadutre
[03:13] <burn__> ja sam juzno od belgrad :D
[03:13] <Dillizar> novi sad :D
[03:13] <burn__> vranje
[03:13] <Dillizar> ej pa toa e na granica
[03:13] <Dillizar> :D
[03:13] <burn__> blizu kosovo
[03:13] <Tm_T> english please
[03:13] <Dillizar> znam
[03:13] <Dillizar> sorry Tm_T
[03:14] <burn__> yep sorry
[03:14] <Dillizar> i am in Skopje
[03:14] <Dillizar> :D
[03:14] <alex_21> How do I make an app from source code
[03:14] <Tm_T> !compiling | alex_21
[03:14] <burn__> compile it
[03:15] <Dillizar> i was at work from 4pm to 2 am and now its 4 am and i am going inparis
[03:15] <Dillizar> and i need rest
[03:16] <burn__> sleep well
[03:16] <Dillizar> fala
[03:16] <burn__> kazi na english da se bune :D
[03:16] <Dillizar> thanks
[03:16] <Dillizar> :D
[03:16] <alex_21> I am building custom software I modified
[03:16] <Dillizar> burn ok one cig i am gone
[03:17] <alex_21> I modified the default Webkit source for GTKLauncher and now I want to compile it
[03:18] <Ch1ppy> hey, I was on a few days ago and someone mentioned that the kde 4.2 beta 1 packages are being worked on, but alluded to being unable to give a timeline. Is there anywhere I can watch for an announcement of these packages in lieu of a date for these being ready?
[03:18] <Tm_T> Ch1ppy: no, noone cannot tell "when" they're ready until they are
[03:18] <Ch1ppy> That's what I'm saying
[03:18] <Tm_T> Ch1ppy: but when they are ready, www.kubuntu.org is the place
[03:18] <Ch1ppy> Tm_T: awesome, thanks
[03:19] <Tm_T> np
[03:20] <epimeth> Ch1ppy: there are packages ready... let me find them for you
[03:21] <Ch1ppy> epimeth: for serious? Nice!
[03:21] <Tm_T> epimeth: no, don't say you're proposing Neon...
[03:22] <epimeth> I am, actually... why not, Tm_T?
[03:22] <Ch1ppy> Ahaha
[03:22] <Tm_T> epimeth: it's not the same (;)
[03:23] <Ch1ppy> Isn't neon only certain parts of kde 4?
[03:23] <Ch1ppy> I was under the impression that it was more the stuff for developing rather than the actual desktop stuff
[03:23] <alex_21> So how do I compile GTKLauncher for Ubuntu
[03:23] <alex_21> ?
[03:23] <Tm_T> Ch1ppy: mmmm, it's most of KDE but it's more like "daily" than "polished release"
[03:24] <Tm_T> alex_21: does sourcepackage of it have INSTALL or README files?
[03:24] <Ch1ppy> Tm_T: Oh okay. I knew that neon is the nightlies though - I run amarok's neon
[03:24] <Tm_T> roger
[03:24] <Ch1ppy> I think I'd rather wait for the actual beta rather than the nightlies of 4.2 though
[03:24] <epimeth> Ch1ppy: so yea, its project neon and its nightly
[03:24] <epimeth> http://roderick-greening.blogspot.com/2008/11/kde-nightly-neon-for-thrill-seeker-in_03.html
[03:25] <epimeth> you're choice :-)
[03:25] <Ch1ppy> indeed
[03:25] <Ch1ppy> epimeth: Thanks :)
[03:26] <epimeth> Ch1ppy: nw
[03:26] <burn__> can this nightly to be installed on 8.04?
[03:29] <epimeth> burn__: yea, deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu hardy main
[03:29] <epimeth> afaik
[03:30] <burn__> and it will install kde4-neon?
[03:31] <epimeth> burn__: kde-nightly
[03:32] <burn__> and that kde is it kde3 or kde4?
[03:32] <oscar> hola alguien que desee charlar
[03:32] <epimeth> burn__: I would probably wait for the beta to get to backports tho... should happen any day now
[03:32] <burn__> thnx
[03:33] <epimeth> oscar: solamente ingles aqui....
[03:33] <epimeth> !es > oscar
[03:34] <beanbag> anyone have a problem with screen flicker on Dell laptop with 8.10?
[03:35] <alex_21> I had the problem on an Acer Aspire laptop and screen flicker, lol
[03:35] <beanbag> any solution?
[03:36] <alex_21> No, I went back to Hardy and am having no problems
[03:36] <alex_21> Someone here said that it may not meet RAM requirements
[03:37] <beanbag> the laptop has 2G RAM or is it graphics memory
[03:40] <alex_21> I don't know
[03:42] <alex_21> Does anyone know how to compile and install GTKLauncher, the free, basic Web Browser included with Webkit source
[03:43] <beanbag> I think I'll try going back since it worked fine then, Thanks for the input
[03:44] <_2> !checkinstall | alex_21
[03:44] <alex_21> Before you do, look on the foum at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ someone may have found a way to fix it
[03:45] <alex_21> But how do I compile it first
[03:46] <alex_21> ?
[03:47] <oscar> hi
[03:48] <_2> !b-e | alex_21 have you visited this link
[03:52] <_2> "such changes seem to happen very quickly, over very long periods of time."
[04:01] <alex_21> Ok, thanks
[04:03] <giu> so
[04:03] <KiDFlaSh> so
[04:03] <_2> !nickspam
[04:04] <_2> so
[04:04] <Viking667> Hey all. Got Hardy, want to upgrade to Intrepid. The "desktop" itself hasn't notified me that there's an update version to Intrepid available, how do I get the version to dist-update?
[04:04] <_2> !upgrade
[04:05] <Viking667> ahh. So it's there. I'll go back there and look again. Thank you.
[04:06] <_2> Viking667 if all else fails you can use the manual methood.  change your /etc/apt/sources.list from hardy to intrepid and apt-get update ;apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:08] <Viking667> ... hm. The web page applies to ubuntu, not kubuntu. I haven't found a "Software Sources" application, (presumably that manages the repositories)
[04:08] <Viking667> ... in the KDE menus.
[04:09] <Viking667> Oh, sorry.
[04:09] <Viking667> missed a link. - be right back.
[04:09] <raulintrepid> Hola alguienq ue hable español ?
[04:10] <lolren> !sp
[04:10] <lolren> !es
[04:10] <raulintrepid> Gracias :)
[04:10] <lolren> np
[04:11] <alex_21> Que queres
[04:12] <jmichaelx> i guess beanbag has left.. i was looking into his screen flicker problem.
[04:13] <Viking667> merci. That's what I wanted. Thank you.
[04:14] <hayt3r> hello
[04:14] <hayt3r> is there anyway to upgrade kubuntu to latest version from 5.10 without using cd?
[04:15] <jmichaelx> hayt3r: you have no CD ROM drive with this machine?
[04:15] <hayt3r> it's broken
[04:16] <jmichaelx> i would think you really need a fresh install if you are still using 5.10
[04:16] <jmichaelx> can your machine boot from USB?
[04:17] <hayt3r> I don't remember seeing that in the boot options
[04:17] <hayt3r> this is an old machine
[04:18] <jmichaelx> it sounds to me like you really should buy a CD ROM drive, or rob one from another machine - at least temporarily
[04:19] <hayt3r> haha that's what I was afraid of
[04:19] <jmichaelx> is this a laptop?
[04:19] <hayt3r> no, it's desktop
[04:19] <jmichaelx> using a standard CD ROM drive?
[04:20] <hayt3r> yea
[04:20] <jmichaelx> well, getting a hold of another drive shouldn't be too big of a deal
[04:20] <jmichaelx> go to a PC repair shop, and they might just give you an old one
[04:21] <hayt3r> ok, i'll deal with this after finals are over then
[04:22] <alex_21> What machine is this?
[04:22] <alex_21> I mean, a Dell, HP, what
[04:22] <alex_21> ?
[04:22] <hayt3r> custom, from 8 yrs ago
[04:24] <jmichaelx> hayt3r: i am not sure what else to recommend. you could possibly try upgrading to dapper... then upgrading to hardy... then to intrepid, but that would take aeons
[04:26] <jmichaelx> instructions from upgrading from dapper to hardy directly: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[04:26] <jmichaelx> for*
[04:33] <alex_21> Anyone know about Apple routers here?
[04:36] <jreinaldo> I''m using Kubuntu intrepid. Every time after I choose a new video resolution (System configuration/screen) it hangs. Only rebooting solves the problem. There is someone how knows why?
[04:43] <eamon> hello im trying to set up a proxy server on my network iv got as far as installing squid and restarting it but it comes up with a message sayingFATAL cound not determine fully qualified hostname.
[04:44] <eamon> please set 'visible_hostname
[04:44] <eamon> can anyone help
[04:45] <eamon> hello
[04:47] <alex_21> Well, use hostname.local maye
[04:48] <alex_21> Maybe
[04:53] <jmichaelx> jreinaldo: you might try installing and running 'displayconfig-gtk' , and see if that might help you
[04:53] <jmichaelx> jreinaldo: i am also lost these days with the new xorg and everything
[04:55] <loganWHD> what is the "control Panel" called where i can see the settings of the sound drivers
[04:55] <loganWHD> I need to apt-get install it and i dont know what it is called
[04:55] <jreinaldo> jichaelx: I think that this packge (displayconfig-gtk) isn't in the repositories of intrepid
[04:56] <jreinaldo> jichaelx: I checked now and this package doesn't appear in the Adept list
[04:56] <jmichaelx> jreinaldo: it looks like you're right about that
[04:57] <loganWHD> ?
[04:58] <DaveTheAve> So does anyone have a working widget for lowest local gas prices?
[04:58] <jmichaelx> jreinaldo: i basically knew what to do in the old days, but anymore i do not even know how to tell what video driver is being used
[04:58] <DaveTheAve> Noticed the Mac X widget support has yet to be finished.
[04:59] <jreinaldo> jichaelx: I'm lost too. The xorg.conf doesn't show anything!
[05:01] <loganWHD> what is the "control Panel" called where i can see the settings of the sound drivers
[05:01] <loganWHD> I need to apt-get install it and i dont know what it is called
[05:01] <jmichaelx> loganWHD: i guess i am not sure what you are asking for
[05:02] <loganWHD> i installed the mini-iso in an attempt to fix many of my issues i am having with 8.10
[05:02] <loganWHD> and my sound card doesnt work
[05:02] <loganWHD> and i want to go to teh settings area to check them out but that isnt installed
[05:02] <loganWHD> i dont know what it is called so i can apt-get it
[05:03] <jmichaelx> loganWHD: you can check various volume settings by entering 'alsamixer' in a console. you then use your direction keys to make changes, and hit escape when you're finished
[05:03] <loganWHD> yah that isnt the issue
[05:03] <loganWHD> they arent muted
[05:03] <loganWHD> and the volume is up
[05:03] <loganWHD> but when i boot a small box pops up and says that the driver isnt working so it switches to default
[05:04] <loganWHD> i went thru https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto step by step
[05:04] <jmichaelx> hmm
[05:04] <loganWHD> with no success
[05:05] <jmichaelx> loganWHD: what sort of PC are you using? what audio adapter?
[05:05] <loganWHD> it is a dell inspiron 9400
[05:05] <loganWHD> laptop
[05:05] <raulintrepid> #ubuntu-es
[05:05] <jmichaelx> so it has an intel audio adaptor?
[05:05] <raulintrepid> #kubuntu-es
[05:05] <loganWHD> yes
[05:07] <loganWHD> i have tried so many things with no success
[05:08] <loganWHD> all of this started because the sound worked but the mic did not
[05:08] <loganWHD> now no sound... no mic... nada
[05:09] <jmichaelx> loganWHD: i do not know whether or not this is your issue, but i know some have had issues getting audio to work on the mini 9's... and this is the fix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=981602
[05:10] <loganWHD> i will try anything
[05:10] <loganWHD> let me go read this
[05:10] <jmichaelx> that may not work for you at all. have you checked to actually see what kind of audio adapter you have with 'lspci'?
[05:12] <loganWHD> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[05:13] <jmichaelx> ok, you might try that fix in the thread i suggested... no guarantees.
[05:14] <alex_21> BTW: I loke Banshee. How do you listen to shared ITunes stuff?
[05:14] <alex_21> Like, sorry
[05:16] <jussi01> !intelhda | jmichaelx
[05:16] <jussi01> oops
[05:16] <jussi01> loganWHD: ^^
[05:16] <jmichaelx> jussi01: ty, that may be what loganWHD needs to read through
[05:17] <jussi01> jmichaelx: likely...
[05:17] <loganWHD> i did
[05:17] <loganWHD> notice above
[05:17] <loganWHD> i followed that whole site
[05:17] <loganWHD> nada
[05:17] <loganWHD> brb gonna try what u posted
[05:18] <jmichaelx> my mind was on the issues with intel audio on the mini 9's since i just ordered 3 of them this past morning
[05:19] <alex_21> Hey, what is broadcast in the file /etc/network/interfaces?
[05:20] <alex_21> ?
[05:22] <jmichaelx> alex_21: i am sort of thinking that it is just stating what address range your router is broadcasting to
[05:22] <jmichaelx> alex_21: i assume the last 6 digits are 255.255
[05:23] <jmichaelx> or at least the last three digits are .255
[05:23] <alex_21> So what should it be set to if the router broadcasts to 255
[05:23] <alex_21> 192.168.0.255?
[05:24] <jmichaelx> alex_21: that only means that the address in the range of those last 3 numbers are masked
[05:24] <jmichaelx> i don't really know how to explain this, but you don't want to/need to change that
[05:24] <jmichaelx> address*
[05:24] <jmichaelx> grrr
[05:24] <jmichaelx> addresses*
[05:25] <alex_21> This is my file
[05:25] <alex_21> # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
[05:25] <alex_21> # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
[05:25] <alex_21> # The loopback network interface
[05:25] <alex_21> auto lo
[05:25] <alex_21> iface lo inet loopback
[05:25] <alex_21> # The primary network interface
[05:25] <alex_21> auto eth1
[05:25] <alex_21> iface eth1 inet static
[05:25] <alex_21> address 192.168.0.102
[05:25] <alex_21> netmask 255.255.255.0
[05:25] <alex_21> network 192.168.0.0
[05:25] <alex_21> broadcast 192.168.0.255
[05:26] <alex_21> gateway 192.168.0.101
[05:26] <alex_21>        
[05:26] <alex_21> auto eth0
[05:26] <alex_21> iface eth0 inet static
[05:26] <alex_21> address 192.168.0.1
[05:26] <alex_21> netmask 255.255.255.0
[05:26] <jmichaelx> alex_21: be careful, you could get banned for posting like that
[05:26] <alex_21> network 192.168.0.0
[05:26] <alex_21> broadcast 192.168.0.255
[05:26] <alex_21> gateway 192.168.0.101
[05:26] <alex_21> "/etc/network/interfaces" 23L, 528C written                   10,10         All
[05:26] <alex_21> I set this myself, so is this ok?
[05:26] <alex_21> Oops, I didn't mean it to come out like that, sorry
[05:27] <alex_21> Remember I can't see how it was formated
[05:27] <alex_21> Lol
[05:27] <jmichaelx> alex_21: well, i am no networking expert, but i assume that all looks OK
[05:28] <jmichaelx> alex_21: why are you not using DHCP?
[05:29] <alex_21> This is my server, so I can't use dhcp on my server, never mind the fact that this is my dhcp server on eth0
[05:29] <jussi01> !paste | alex_21
[05:29] <jmichaelx> alex_21: ok, makes sense
[05:30] <alex_21> I'll bare that in mind about pasting
[05:30] <alex_21> If the site isn't accessible, who do I tell
[05:30] <alex_21> ?
[05:30] <jmichaelx> the pastebin site?
[05:32] <alex_21> Yes
[05:33] <alex_21> Oh, did I mention that I am a VIP, Visually Impaired Person
[05:33] <alex_21> That is why I am concerned about the site's accessibility
[05:33] <jussi01> ahh
[05:33] <jmichaelx> alex_21: i was starting to get that idea from what you had typed earlier
[05:33] <jmichaelx> brb
[05:35] <alex_21> Which bit
[05:35] <alex_21> ?
[05:36] <alex_21> Oops, now I can't ping my server, ssh to it, or anything. I did something wrong, but what?
[05:39] <alex_21> I think I pasted
[05:39] <alex_21> Here is my file
[05:40] <alex_21> http://paste.ubuntu.com/78214/
[05:40] <colin_> alex_21: dhcp is usually the better way to go because then you don't have to deal with routing and all that
[05:40] <colin_> static dhcp assignments would work
[05:40] <alex_21> I need static as it is a server that I need to port forward to
[05:41] <colin_> but you can set up your dhcp server to always give the same address
[05:41] <alex_21> This is my dhcp server
[05:41] <colin_> oh
[05:41] <colin_> I see
[05:41] <alex_21> I don't see, Lol,
[05:42] <alex_21> Well, con someone please tell me where I went wrong?
[05:43] <colin_> at first glance it looks ok
[05:44] <alex_21> Oh, My, I have 30 Mins to get this back up, and I don't even know what is wrong
[05:45] <colin_> try taking out "network 192.168.0.0"
[05:46] <alex_21> Ok
[05:47] <alex_21> Only on one of the interfaces?
[05:47] <colin_> try it on one
[05:47] <colin_> just to see if it works
[05:48] <alex_21> Ok
[05:51] <alex_21> I am waiting for it to reboot
[05:51] <colin_> ok
[05:51] <colin_> so you are sure of the routing on your network?
[05:52] <colin_> ie, you are on the right subnet, no strange subnet masks?
[05:52] <alex_21> It runs a hundred services, not quite, smiley, but a lot of services, so it takes a good little while
[05:52] <colin_> ok
[05:53] <colin_> because I can't see anything that would prevent it from working
[05:53] <alex_21> Yes, it works now
[05:53] <alex_21> Thanks
[05:54] <alex_21> So much
[05:54] <colin_> no problem :)
[05:54] <colin_> so the network line is only required for 2.0 kernels
[05:58] <alex_21> Now I can't access my webpage, I get error 500, connection refused. I have port forwarding
[05:58] <colin_> you are running apache?
[05:58] <RurouniJones> Er, error 500 is an internal server error
[06:00] <alex_21> Sorry, it is fixed no, I guess it took some time to take effect the changes I made
[06:00] <colin_> ok
[06:04] <alex_21> I still don't receive any mail though
[06:04] <alex_21> I took it offline to fix Zimbra, and still no luck
[06:06] <kevin__> i can only run in low graphics mode
[06:06] <kevin__> i have login error log
[06:07] <alex_21> How do you shut up a laptop with a command, mute it, since it is driving me up the wall I am using GNome right now
[06:13] <dwidmann> alex_21: how to mute it? any mixer can do it.
[06:13] <dwidmann> alex_21: for example, amix, alsamixer, kmix, etc
[06:13] <alex_21> How from the keyboard, as I am blind
[06:13] <stof> hello evrybody
[06:14] <dwidmann> alex_21: eh,? from the keyboard?, like, a keyboard shortcut, or like a command to type in?
[06:14] <alex_21> Anything I don't need to use the mouse for
[06:15] <jussi01> alex_21: in terminal: alsamixer
[06:15] <dwidmann> alex_21: well, run alsamixer in a konsole
[06:15]  * jussi01 waves to dwidmann
[06:16] <dwidmann> jussi01: Great minds don't think alike, they think differently, but they frequently arrive at the same conclusions :)
[06:16] <jussi01> hehe, true that
[06:18] <stof> hey, I have a problem with the command gcc in order to compile code writen in C
[06:19] <jussi01> stof: just trying to compile one file? or a whole program?
[06:20] <stof> just one file but but I receive a error's message
[06:20] <jussi01> stof: which is?
[06:20] <alex_21> Hey, how do I compile GTKLauncher?
[06:20] <jussi01> alex_21: is there a readme included?
[06:20] <alex_21> Uh, no
[06:21] <stof> it's a long message
[06:21] <stof>  gcc -o master4.c master4
[06:21] <stof> master4: In function `_start':
[06:21] <jussi01> !paste | stof
[06:21] <stof> (.text+0x0): multiple definition of `_start'
[06:21] <stof> /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.2.4/../../../../lib/crt1.o:(.text+0x0): first defined here
[06:21] <stof> master4:(.rodata+0x0): multiple definition of `_fp_hw'
[06:21] <stof> /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.2.4/../../../../lib/crt1.o:(.rodata+0x0): first defined here
[06:21] <stof> master4: In function `_fini':
[06:21] <stof> /build/buildd/glibc-2.7/build-tree/i386-libc/csu/crti.S:41: multiple definition of `_fini'
[06:21] <dwidmann> stof: that looks backward to me, unless you want to output a file with a .c ext
[06:22] <jussi01> stof: soon as the pasting is done, Ill un mute you
[06:23] <jussi01> stof: please use a pastebin next time.
[06:23] <alex_21> It is the webkit basic browser that comes with webkit source
[06:23] <stof> ok jussi
[06:23] <alex_21> How do you compile it?
[06:24] <dwidmann> alex_21: speaking of basic webkit browsers, arora seems to be progressing nicely
[06:24] <jimi_> algien habla español
[06:24] <stof> I make: gcc -o file.c file
[06:25] <stof> I think that I have a problem in the package build essential
[06:26] <jimi_> nadie en este sitio habla español
[06:26] <jussi01> !es
[06:27] <dwidmann> stof: speaking of the arlier attempt to paste, paste it in a pastebin (see channel topic) and give us a link so we can look at it
[06:27] <jimi_> gracias
[06:28] <alex_21> So how do I compile it and then package it
[06:28] <alex_21> I am using checkinstallforpackaging
[06:29] <dwidmann> alex_21: run sudo checkinstall after you run make
[06:29] <alex_21> But this is the first time I do it, so please help me get through it
[06:29] <alex_21> I need a little walk through
[06:29] <dwidmann> alex_21: does the project include a "configure" script?
[06:29] <stof> this is the link: http://pastebin.com/m53cadca0
[06:34] <dwidmann> stof: try what's suggested here: http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-help/1999-10/msg00227.html
[06:35] <stof> thank you dwidmann, I will try now
[06:35] <alex_21> No, just a simple.svg, a main.c and a text.html that is used to test the browser
[06:36] <dwidmann> alex_21: try running "gcc main.c" and see what happens
[06:37] <alex_21> What is the svg for?
[06:37] <dwidmann> alex_21: it's probably referenced by the html file
[06:43] <stof> the same problrem, I think that I must uninstall the OS the reinstall it
[06:46] <stof> is there any method to uninstall just a package, _without unistall all the OS_
[06:47] <faileas> stof: apt-get remove <packagename>
[06:47] <faileas> *sudo apt-get remove
[06:47] <stof> ok thank u faileas
[06:51] <alex_21> Now I can't connect using AFP or SCP to my box now that I have two network interfaces in the same LAN, Why?
[06:53] <alex_21> Neither with Web on HTTP port 80
[06:59] <bluestar> kubuntu 8.10 sucks hardware drivers it cant download nvidia driver :(
[07:07] <alex_21> Well, this is really frustrationg, nothing works now
[07:11] <alex_21> Grr
[07:14] <alex_21> Does anyone know why I can't get to my site that I am hosting on my Kubuntu box? I had to shut down using the power button, and now nothing works
[07:21] <alex_21> Anyone?
[07:32] <alex_21> Hi, I'm back and still no luck, I'm offline
[07:33] <loganWHD> can i start off by saying......
[07:34] <loganWHD> ARGGGGHHHHHHHH
[07:34] <loganWHD> better
[07:34] <loganWHD> i followed many of the links you all gave me and got my sound working in 8.10
[07:34] <loganWHD> wow, what a freaking beast it was to get one simple thing working....
[07:35] <loganWHD> anyhow, got my settings good and then i set up a windows VM for some programs i must run in win..... all is good... it is running in both... then i have to reboot... and bam
[07:35] <loganWHD> all sound stops working
[07:35] <loganWHD> no errors
[07:35] <loganWHD> and it is not muted
[07:35] <loganWHD> just no sound
[07:38] <miguelpacheco> alguien me dice el canal español?
[07:39] <alex_21> I am still here, with a downed site, no time left to fix it, freaking out, and at a loss for what to do. Any help?
[07:42] <RurouniJones> What is the error
[07:43] <binMonkey> !es
[07:44] <alex_21> The error is that there is no ... something ... process when I do /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:44] <RurouniJones> That doesn't help, you mean you have no network connections?
[07:44] <RurouniJones> what does ifconfig say
[07:45] <alex_21> hold on, I'm checking now. Also, it doesn't appear to have a network connections
[07:48] <alex_21> I don't have a way to tell you everything it says
[07:48] <RurouniJones> pastie.org
[07:48] <RurouniJones> oh wait, ok point
[07:48] <RurouniJones> Well, does it list an IP address
[07:48] <Dabbu> due to some problem in my laptop my laptop switch between AC power and Battery frequently....and i repeatedly get warning and the screen brightness changes this become annoying....how can i stop this ?
[07:49] <RurouniJones> Dabbu, disable kpowersave
[07:49] <Dabbu> RurouniJones: how..? i am using KDE$ desktop in ubuntu
[07:49] <RurouniJones> Out of curiosity, you on a MSI laptop?
[07:49] <RurouniJones> shoudl be in the taskbar bottom right
[07:50] <RurouniJones> alex_21: What interfaces does it list? It should be something like eth0 or eth1 then a whole bunch of information about it
[07:50] <RurouniJones> like inet addr etc.
[07:51] <alex_21> MSI?
[07:51] <kenda> hello
[07:51] <kenda> people
[07:51] <RurouniJones> That was for dabbu,
[07:52] <RurouniJones> Now alex_21: What interfaces are listed and do you have inet addr info for them
[07:52] <kenda> хтось говорить по російський чи українськи!??
[07:52] <RurouniJones> !ru | kenda
[07:53] <alex_21> Both eth1 and eth0 are listed
[07:53] <kenda> thank ubottu
[07:53] <bazhang> kenda, /join #ubuntu-ru
[07:53] <RurouniJones> and do you have a ton of info about then including things like inet addr
[07:53] <alex_21> Yes, but no way to read it all
[07:53] <RurouniJones> you have eyeballs don't you?
[07:54] <RurouniJones> Just tell me what the inet addr bit says
[07:54] <RurouniJones> something like -> inet addr: 192.168.0.1
[07:54] <alex_21> Yes, I do,
[07:54] <alex_21> But I am blind, VIP, Visually Impaired Person
[07:55] <RurouniJones> ok, on a longshot then, try -> ifup eht0
[07:55] <alex_21> 192.168.0.1
[07:55] <DarkriftX> trying to mount a usb storage device (right clicking on the icon and selecting mount) and i get an error about "isCallerPrivileged()"
[07:55] <RurouniJones> ifup eth0 rather
[07:55] <alex_21> 192.168.0.102
[07:55] <DarkriftX> any idea why?
[07:55] <RurouniJones> Ok, so your network interfaces are working
[07:56] <RurouniJones> Now, how are you trying to access your website? What is the URL
[07:56] <alex_21> http://www.vipbc.org/
[07:57] <RurouniJones> Ok, what happens when you try localhost:80
[07:57] <alex_21> But in using the command /etc/init.d/networking restart I get an error. No ... Something, ... Process
[07:59] <RurouniJones> Well it looks like the interfaces are up on an internal IP address
[07:59] <RurouniJones> I can't comment further without knowing what the ... Something ... is
[08:00] <RurouniJones> I am gonna go on the assumption that the interfaces are up and are on the IP addresses they are supposed to be. I am assuming your server is on an internal network behind a NAT router
[08:00] <alex_21> I am behind a router, but everything worked fine until I made eth1 static instead of dynamid with dhcp]
[08:01] <RurouniJones> ...Why did you make it static
[08:02] <alex_21> It is the inerface my mail server uses to connect, so I had to port forward to it
[08:02] <RurouniJones> Then check the port forwarding for port 80
[08:02] <alex_21> BTW, I can't ssh, scp, afp, or anything to that machine
[08:03] <RurouniJones> Yes, probably because you broke the port-forwarding by changing the IP address
[08:03] <alex_21> Port forwarding isn't the problem as I can't access it over the LAN either
[08:03] <alex_21> I can ping it fine
[08:04] <RurouniJones> Change it back to DHCP and not static and see what that does
[08:05] <alex_21> Hi, I can't do that. The comment symbol # is not accessible in vi with ORca
[08:06] <alex_21> Also, the eth1 didn't used to be inside the LAN, rather it was directly connected to the internet
[08:07] <RurouniJones> With an IP address other than 192.168.*.* ?
[08:08] <YnoR> c'è nessuno????
[08:08] <RurouniJones> !it | YnoR
[08:08] <YnoR> grazie ubottu
[08:12] <RurouniJones> alex_21: I have a prior appointment I have to go to soon so I won't be able to try and help much longer. Before you made the IP address on eth1 static what was the IP? Was it a 192.16.*.* address?
[08:14] <alex_21> No, it was 70.70.*.*
[08:15] <YnoR> ciao a tutti vado
[08:16] <RurouniJones> alex_21: Ok then, that is the problem.
[08:17] <RurouniJones> you went from a publicly accessible IP address to an internal LAN-only IP address
[08:18] <RurouniJones> you will need to change it back to the former IP address, or set it back to DHCP so the DHCP server can do it for you
[08:20] <alex_21> Well, I moved it into the LAN and then port forwarded from my router that has a 70.70.*.* address, so does that not accomplish the same thing
[08:39] <seektherapy> can someone tell me which messenger to use for total encryption on kubuntu
[08:43] <DarkriftX> what is the "name" for kubuntu 7.10 ?
[08:43] <epimeth> gutsy gibbon
[08:45] <DarkriftX> thx
[08:50] <seektherapy> what about my question
[08:56] <epimeth> seektherapy: dunno... what do you use elsewhere?
[08:56] <seektherapy> I'm using kubuntu
[09:08] <epimeth> seektherapy: no, what messenger do you use elsewhere
[09:08] <seektherapy> I haven't installed a messenger yet
[09:09] <seektherapy> I'll be back
[09:09] <thomas__> hi
[09:24] <seektherapy> ok...i just installed the wrong (i think its called this) respiratory or package in adept manager and now it wont start..can someone help me with this
[09:26] <seektherapy> crap let me try something
[09:28] <faileas> repository
[09:34] <Danny-The-Great> Hello Everybody
[09:34] <JediatNight> Hi Danny
[09:34] <Danny-The-Great> can someone help me?
[09:34] <Danny-The-Great> i have a problem after installing ubuntu
[09:35] <Danny-The-Great> ???
[09:35] <jussi01> Danny-The-Great: just tell us the problem :)
[09:35] <Danny-The-Great> ok
[09:36] <Danny-The-Great> well i got 2 hard disk drives on my pc..i have installed windows xp on the first one and ubuntu on the other one,but after installing ubuntu either windows xp or ubuntu cannot recognize the hdd i installed ubuntu in.can someone help?thanks
[09:36] <jussi01> Danny-The-Great: so what exactly is happening? it doesnt boot? or?
[09:37] <Danny-The-Great> well
[09:37] <Danny-The-Great> i go to device manager
[09:37] <Danny-The-Great> it shows both the hdd
[09:37] <Danny-The-Great> but
[09:37] <Danny-The-Great> when i go to my pc
[09:37] <lumm> windows cant read the ubuntu partition cuz its a different file system
[09:37] <Danny-The-Great> i can only see one hdd
[09:37] <lumm> and visa verse with ubuntu.
[09:37] <jussi01> !ext3 | Danny-The-Great
[09:38] <Kohlrabi> !ntfs | Danny-The-Great
[09:38] <Danny-The-Great> look...
[09:38] <Danny-The-Great> in the past i had windows xp on both hdds
[09:38] <Danny-The-Great> which where ntfs
[09:39] <Danny-The-Great> but after installing on one of them,pc cannot recognize the hdd that linux was installed in
[09:39] <jussi01> Danny-The-Great: you need a driver to access the ubuntu partition from windows - http://www.fs-driver.org
[09:39] <Kohlrabi> in BIOS?
[09:39] <Danny-The-Great> no
[09:39] <Danny-The-Great> in bios end device manager
[09:40] <Kohlrabi> What exactlky is "recognize"
[09:40] <Danny-The-Great> pc reads them both succesful
[09:40] <Danny-The-Great> it doesn't see
[09:40] <Kohlrabi> What's a "BIOS end device manager"?
[09:40] <Danny-The-Great> e.g.
[09:40] <Danny-The-Great> i had 2 hdds
[09:40] <Danny-The-Great> one called C
[09:40] <Danny-The-Great> andthe other called F
[09:40] <Danny-The-Great> but after installing ubuntu
[09:41] <Danny-The-Great> on F
[09:41] <Danny-The-Great> xp cannot see drive F
[09:41] <Kohlrabi> because you installed Ubuntu on it?
[09:41] <Danny-The-Great> yeap
[09:41] <jussi01> Danny-The-Great: exactly! go install the driver I showed you...
[09:41] <Kohlrabi> and it's nonexistant now
[09:41] <Kohlrabi> no "F"
[09:41] <Danny-The-Great> which one jussio1?
[09:41] <Kohlrabi> Please read up about partitions and filesystems
[09:41] <jussi01> http://www.fs-driver.org
[09:42] <Danny-The-Great> ty
[09:43] <manish> ok i am not able to boot into ubuntu because i made some changes.... now its crashing again and again as i try to boot into it ...  please help me boot to ubuntu-desktop... I also tried removing ubuntu-dektop using terminal still there is an entry for gnome in the login screen.. what do i do...?
[09:43] <Danny-The-Great> should i have to choose enable the read only option on ext2 installer?
[09:44] <Kohlrabi> your choice
[09:44] <Danny-The-Great> Linux Ext3 volumes can also be accessed. To do that, please read the FAQ section.
[09:44] <Danny-The-Great> hmmm
[09:44] <manish> genii: can you help me out with that..?
[09:45] <manish> Danny-The-Great: ne idea why is it happening
[09:45] <Danny-The-Great> this programm is for Ext2
[09:45] <bdgraue> is there a kde4 webcam viewer somewhere? and i'd like to have a tool to make some snapshots
[09:45] <Danny-The-Great> i have ext3 3
[09:45] <Danny-The-Great> *-3
[09:46] <Kohlrabi> Danny-The-Great: <Kohlrabi> Please read up about partitions and filesystems
[09:46] <Danny-The-Great> i haven't got the time
[09:46] <Danny-The-Great> that's the problem
[09:46] <Kohlrabi> If you don't know what you're doing, please don't fiddle with partitions
[09:46] <manish> can ne one please help me boot to GNOME
[09:46] <manish> It crashes when i try to boot into it ... I think it happed after i made a change in system settigns
[09:46] <milos_> manish, why you removed ubuntu-desktop?
[09:46] <jussi01> bdgraue: vlc can do that iirc
[09:47] <Kohlrabi> Lest you'll blame the people here
[09:47] <bdgraue> jussi01: i'll take a look, thx
[09:47] <manish> just to install it all over again ... I thought may be that would help but i think it does not
[09:47] <Kohlrabi> Danny-The-Great: It's all in the FAQ....
[09:47] <Kohlrabi> Ext 3 = Ext2+journaling
[09:47] <Danny-The-Great> right
[09:47] <Danny-The-Great> i read that
[09:47] <manish> milos: So now how can i boot into gnome again
[09:47] <Kohlrabi> so
[09:48] <Danny-The-Great> so
[09:48] <Danny-The-Great> i can choose
[09:48] <Danny-The-Great> if i want read only
[09:48] <Kohlrabi> If you access Ext3 as Ext2, you can RW, but if it isnt unmounted properly the OS has to check the FS next time
[09:48] <Danny-The-Great> can i leave it unmark?
[09:48] <Kohlrabi> yep
[09:48] <Kohlrabi> probably
[09:48] <Danny-The-Great> yes
[09:48] <Danny-The-Great> but
[09:49] <Kohlrabi> you can still change your choice later :)
[09:49] <milos_> manish, reinstaling is the last option. Could you boot into terminal?
[09:49] <Danny-The-Great> ok....ok
[09:49] <Danny-The-Great> god bless me
[09:49] <Danny-The-Great> i have serious factory files on it
[09:49] <manish> i can boot into KDE and am chatting with that only as of now
[09:49] <Kohlrabi> ?
[09:49] <Kohlrabi> It's a work HD?
[09:49] <manish> milos: but i want to get back my GNOME as i am more comfortable with that
[09:49] <Kohlrabi> You're aware that fs-driver doesn't provide ANY access right facility
[09:50] <Kohlrabi> meaning everyone (in Windows) can access all the files on the ext-HD
[09:50] <manish> i have reinstalled the ubuntu-desktop now using "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[09:50] <manish> now what should i do?
[09:51] <milos_> manish, so you want to be able to login in gnome. did you try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:52] <milos_> well than it should work
[09:52] <milos_> choose gnome session in login window
[09:52] <manish> ya right now
[09:52] <manish> btw it was already install untill i messed with my system settings in gnome
[09:53] <Danny-The-Great> ok
[09:53] <Danny-The-Great> problem got solved
[09:53] <Danny-The-Great> thanks
[09:53] <manish> milos: what is happeing is when i choose the gnome session. i crashes and i get back to login screen
[09:53] <manish> milos do u want me to try it once again after the reinstallation of ubuntu-desktop?
[09:53] <milos_> wait
[09:53] <manish> k
[09:54] <milos_> what did you modified in system settings?
[09:54] <milos_> do you remember
[09:55] <manish> i checked the Zoom desktop ... the second option in system settings
[09:55] <Danny-The-Great> can someone where can i find linuc drivers for creative x-fi elite pro?
[09:55] <Danny-The-Great> *tell me
[09:55] <Danny-The-Great> *x
[09:55] <manish> some where i dont recollect... i think there is some problem with that
[09:55] <duty> hi ppl
[09:56] <milos_> manish, you changed some compiz settings?
[09:56] <manish> yes those too...
[09:56] <manish> is that causing the prob
[09:57] <milos_> maybe the compiz is making problem
[09:57] <manish> i am sorry but i dont recollect what i changed in compiz as i changed many things just to make my system a little bit light
[09:57] <manish> so what do i do now ... how do i reset the thig
[09:57] <manish> i can access compiz from KDE where i am logged in right now
[09:58] <milos_> so if compiz works with KDE it should work also with Gnome
[09:59] <manish> ok now i remember what did i change in compix
[09:59] <manish> it was teh Area Zoom which i enabled
[09:59] <manish> now its disable (atleast that is what it is showing right now ) but still i am not able to login into GNOME
[10:00] <yao_ziyuan> backport and proposed, which is more tested?
[10:00] <milos_> you should remove remove ubuntu-desktop with "purge" that removes system settings. Also you can do that with compiz, just in case. So to completely remove it:
[10:00] <milos_> manish,  sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop
[10:01] <milos_> manish, sudo apt-get purge compiz
[10:01] <manish> i am a new bie
[10:01] <manish> can you tell me how do i do that
[10:01] <manish> and how do i reinstall it later again
[10:01] <milos_> then install it and restart
[10:01] <manish> which one of the above command do i use
[10:02] <manish> if both then in what order and how do i reinstall it
[10:02] <milos_> both, first is to completely remove ubuntu-desktop with confs, and other is to remove compiz
[10:03] <faileas> milos_: he may also need to reinstall his logon manager methinks
[10:03] <milos_> faileas, kdm?
[10:03] <faileas> milos_: ya, in case its a problem with that
[10:05] <milos_> manish, so do this command to remove these packages: sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop kdm compiz
[10:05] <milos_> manish, and this to install it again:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop kdm compiz
[10:06] <milos_> than you will hopefully be able to log on to gnome
[10:06] <manish> i am already on KDE
[10:06] <manish> should i still run the command as it is showing me some warning
[10:07] <manish> sorry to post it here
[10:07] <manish>  The K Desktop manager (kdm) daemon is typically stopped on package        ?
[10:07] <manish>  ? upgrade and removal, but it appears to be managing at least one running   ?
[10:07] <manish>  ? X session.                                                                ?
[10:07] <manish>  ?                                                                           ?
[10:07] <manish>  ? If kdm is stopped now, any X sessions it manages will be terminated.      ?
[10:07] <manish>  ? Otherwise, the new version will take effect the next time the daemon is   ?
[10:07] <manish>  ? restarted.                                                                ?
[10:07] <manish>  ?                                                                           ?
[10:07] <milos_> manish, http://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:07] <manish>  ? Stop the kdm daemon?                                                      ?
[10:07] <manish>  ?                                                                           ?
[10:07] <manish>  ?                    <Yes>                       <No>                       ?
[10:07] <manish>  ?
[10:07] <manish> ok
[10:08] <manish> but now what should ido yes or no
[10:09] <manish> milos: what should i do " Yes or no"
[10:09] <milos_> the problem is that you are removing some packages which are running currently
[10:09] <milos_> wait sec
[10:10] <manish> k, so that is the reason i am asking you whether i should fo ahead and how will i install ubuntu desktop and kde again if i dont have any of the desktops
[10:10] <faileas> manish: from CLI
[10:11] <milos_> faileas, manish I think he should boot in to recovery mode
[10:11] <milos_> and then to these two commands
[10:11] <manish> sorry......
[10:11] <faileas> linux dosen't need a gui after all, and even when you're on KDE or gnome control alternate F(1-6) will throw you into a command line
[10:11] <faileas> most newbies don't relalise it ;p
[10:12] <faileas> milos_: no need for recovery mode
[10:12] <milos_> faileas, ok then ctrl-alt-f1 and do these two commands
[10:12] <faileas> ya
[10:13] <manish> so please tell me now wht am i supposed to do
[10:13] <milos_> manish, write these two commands somewhere:
[10:14] <manish> which
[10:14] <milos_> 1. sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop kdm compiz
[10:14] <milos_> 2. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop kdm compiz
[10:15] <manish> and then...
[10:15] <milos_> manish, so you need press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and enter first command.
[10:15] <milos_> manish, after that is completed enter second command
[10:15] <mikkis> to do what?
[10:16] <manish> then everything will be restored ???
[10:16] <mikkis> i'm interested too
[10:16] <milos_> if it asks you with warning just answer yes
[10:16] <manish> and then how do i logout and enter the gui
[10:16] <manish> k
[10:17] <milos_> to go back to gui Ctrl+Alt+F7
[10:17] <milos_> than you should reboot and choose gnome from login manager
[10:17] <manish> ok so i am going to boom
[10:17] <manish> now
[10:17] <manish> thanks ya guys
[10:18] <milos_> ok, and cross fingers :)
[10:20] <manish> hey there was some problem
[10:20] <milos_> what prob
[10:20] <manish> it says dpkg was inturrupte you need to run --configure -somethign manually
[10:20] <manish> something like that
[10:21] <manish> what was that problem...?
[10:22] <milos_> probably the something wants installed correctly and dpkg is complaining now
[10:22] <milos_> wasn't
[10:23] <manish> so do u want me to jot down the error exactly "as it is " and tell you
[10:23] <milos_> you got that output when running first command right?
[10:23] <manish> ya
[10:24] <milos_> yeah, run that command in konsole and paste it http://paste.ubuntu.com and put link here
[10:25] <manish> http://paste.ubuntu.com/78239/
[10:26] <manish> how do you guys learn so much of command line commands
[10:26] <milos_> try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:26] <manish> i just wonder... is it the same way i am learning now
[10:26] <milos_> manish, yup
[10:27] <milos_> and we read manuals
[10:27] <manish> nothing happened
[10:27] <manish> k
[10:27] <manish> nw wht
[10:28] <jussi01> manish: nothing at all?
[10:28] <manish> nope
[10:28] <jussi01> no out put whatsoever?
[10:28] <manish> absolutelynothing
[10:28] <jussi01> manish: try: sudo apt-get install -f
[10:29] <jussi01> manish: and pastebin whatever output you have
[10:30] <manish> nothing
[10:30] <jussi01> show me ;)
[10:30] <manish> is it that may be i hv purged compiz n ubuntu-desktop already
[10:30] <jussi01> that command gives output...
[10:30] <milos_> that ok. try now again Ctrl+alt+F1 and first command.
[10:35] <Larson> guys, I've having issues with kdenetworkmanager using 100+mb ram...I've asked on #kde and it seems to be a kubuntu issue. Known?
[10:38] <floown> hello
[10:39] <floown> what is the alternative to "babel" for translation strings?
[10:39] <milos_> floown, poedit
[10:40] <floown> milos_: for KDE
[10:40] <floown> in QT
[10:40] <milos_> floown, yes i think is't kde
[10:40] <milos_> is
[10:42] <milos_> Larson, kdenetworkmanager didn't work with wpa2 in my case aslo. I replaced it with network-manager-gnome
[10:43] <Larson> milos_: hm..ok.. but then I need to pull in all of gnome I guess.. I'd like to avoid that
[10:43] <milos_> Larson, it's a bit ugly but it works
[10:44] <MrDarkUser> hi, I'm just about going insane, I'm doing a find command to find files that I want to copy, I also want to keep the path intact... and I want just those files and the part of the path to be represented in the backup
[10:44] <manish> milos: still the same problem
[10:44] <manish> i am not able to enter gnome
[10:44] <manish> although i set GDM as the default DM when asked
[10:45] <manish> while removing it said something that it was not able to remove because the directory was not empty . I think one of the things was themes and teh other i dont remember
[10:45] <MrDarkUser> Now, I've gotten the bash script to say cp --parents /file/that/I/want/in/path/filename.txt to /dest/path/filename.txt
[10:45] <jpnurmi> how do i install kde3 versions of kate, konsole, kile etc. in ubuntu intrepid?
[10:46] <manish> i am not even able to boot into failsafe gnome. thisoption was not there earlier by this name
[10:46] <manish> milos: u there...?
[10:46] <milos_> manish, i'm thiking
[10:46] <manish> milo: will i have to reformat the complete thing... PLease dont say "YES"
[10:47] <milos_> manish, not yet
[10:47] <manish> THANKYOU for your compliance    :)
[10:47] <Larson> milos_: this bug needs to be fixed though. Do you know where I should report it?
[10:48] <MrDarkUser> but it turns out that --parents requires only directories!!!! it can't have the filename!!!  I don't have the path, I only have the complete filename.  I need to somehow  strip out just the path.  any hints?
[10:48] <milos_> manish, now you should remove compiz, reboot and see if that helps
[10:48] <manish> how...?
[10:48] <MrDarkUser> Larson: launchpad?
[10:48] <manish> sudo apt-get purge compiz...?
[10:49] <milos_> manish, try in login manager Ctrl+Alt+F1 and sudo ... yes
[10:49] <milos_> then reboot
[10:49] <Larson> MrDarkUser: launchpad?
[10:49] <Larson> please excuse my ignorenance...:)
[10:50] <Larson> ignorance even...
[10:50] <ptl> kommander is way cool, man. Thanks to it I was able to make my phylogeny analysis program graphic in a very quick fashion.
[10:51] <milos_> Larson, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager but search little before, maybe is reported
[10:51] <manish> i am not able to login into the login manager now (ctl alt F1) it shows a black screen with a blue band
[10:51] <Larson> alright, thanks
[10:52] <milos_> manish, in session choose Failsafe or something like that and log in
[10:52] <milos_> manish, you should get some kind of terminal
[10:52] <manish> milos: now what s next
[10:53] <milos_> manish, sudo apt-get remove compiz
[10:54] <jussi01> I have a HP 6715b with a fingerprint reader. I can get it to display the fingerprint with aes2501, however does anyone know if its possible to get to use it to login and/or use it instead of entering my sudo password?
[10:55] <manish> done ... now reboot..?
[10:55] <milos_> manish, yeah
[10:55] <manish> will be back
[10:55] <milos_> ok
[11:01] <manish> milos, even though  i removed compiz i can see compiz fusion icon and compiz settings manager in my menu and yes for the boot into gnome i was unsuccessful
[11:02] <manish> like every time i went till the wall paper stayed there for half a second or so and then crash ...
[11:02] <manish> i think compiz icon and compiz settings manager isnot yet removed
[11:03] <manish> should i remove every thing related to compiz from synaptic
[11:04] <manish> milos u thr...?
[11:04] <milos_> manish, you can remove that but I don't thik that is causing problems. Try it.
[11:05] <milos_> manish, i don't know what else can cause problem
[11:07] <manish> see i tell you the exact thing that i see when i enter gnome
[11:07] <manish> ok?
[11:07] <milos_> where you enter gnome
[11:07] <manish> i enter my username and password then change sessions and then
[11:08] <manish> enter
[11:08] <milos_> ok
[11:08] <manish> after that i see a orange screen then soem colors flash in the screen with black background
[11:09] <manish> i see my wass paper for an instance and then again things go black and then in a few seconds i land up at the login page again
[11:09] <manish> the same thing happens with gnome failsafe
[11:10] <manish> now every thing related to compiz is removed accept the awn navigator
[11:11] <manish> now should i try to go back to gnome ... till that time you think what could be the problem .. if it is still not solved... what say...?
[11:11] <manish> milos, should i log out and check ..?
[11:12] <milos_> manish, the problem is I don't know what is causing problem. maybe is Metacity or something else
[11:12] <manish> but i did not do any thing to metacity atleast conciously
[11:13] <manish> i will give it a try ... will join you in a moment
[11:13] <milos_> manish, ok
[11:16] <manish> i am into my gnome now
[11:16] <manish> hows that dude ... thanks so much for help
[11:16] <manish> but there is a little problem i guess
[11:16] <Jaxxon> hi I have ubuntu 8.10 with gnome, how can I install kde with kubuntu cd
[11:16] <milos_> manish, what
[11:16] <manish> my awn navigator is not working
[11:17] <milos_> manish, awn can't work without compiz
[11:17] <Unksi> Jaxxon: if you want to install kde alongside with gnome, just do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or install kubuntu-desktop from synaptic
[11:17] <Jaxxon> Unksi: I know this, but I want install it from cd
[11:18] <Unksi> you could try adding the cd as a repo
[11:18] <Jaxxon> Unksi: how can I do this?
[11:18] <milos_> manish, you can try to install compiz but you can fall again in troubles
[11:19] <milos_> i don't know, not sure what was the problem
[11:19] <milos_> manish, you can try to install compiz and if you can't logon in Gnome, then you need to remove it again
[11:20] <milos_> manish, that's you decision
[11:20] <milos_> your
[11:20] <Unksi> Jaxxon: try putting your cd in to the drive and do 'sudo apt-cdrom add'
[11:21] <Jaxxon> Unksi: ok tnx
[11:21] <Unksi> yw
[11:22] <Unksi> you still have to install the kubuntu-desktop after that, though^ :)
[11:22] <Lindows> lol, another person switching from ubuntu -> kubuntu
[11:23] <Lindows> nice
[11:23] <Lindows> RIP gnome
[11:23] <Unksi> :)
[11:23] <manish_> milos  u thr...?
[11:23] <milos_> Lindows, one just came back to gnome
[11:23] <milos_> yup
[11:23] <Unksi> kde rocks :P
[11:24] <manish_> i compiled OO.o3 yesterday from RPM ... but it keeps on crashing and recovering and then crashing again
[11:24] <manish_> ne Idea...?
[11:25] <milos_> manish_, you don't install from rpm on ubuntu
[11:25] <manish_> ya...?
[11:25] <Unksi> there is a ppa for ooo3
[11:25] <manish_> i compiled it with the help of a person here ...
[11:25] <manish_> using alien
[11:25] <Unksi> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main
[11:25] <milos_> manish_, if you compiled it, than it was source, not RPM
[11:25] <Unksi> add that one and you can install it with apt, works a lot better
[11:26] <manish_> ya and so should i delete the folder from opt/OO3
[11:26] <milos_> manish_, don't use alien, that can srew you system
[11:26] <milos_> manish_, use something like this deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main
[11:27] <milos_> if you can't wait till package come in main repository
[11:28] <milos_> manish_, so you add: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main
[11:28] <milos_> in your /etc/apt/sources.lst
[11:28] <milos_> in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:29] <manish_> and add this ppa in my repos
[11:29] <manish_> i got the rpm version by mistake so this guy helped me out
[11:29] <milos_> manish_, if it work fine than you don't need to remove it
[11:30] <milos_> *works
[11:31] <azodiego>  ciao atutti come faccio ad andare nella chat italiana
[11:31] <jussi01> !it
[11:32] <Jaxxon> Unksi: I have dvd rom, so I should to use apt-cdrom add or apt-dvdrom add?
[11:32] <manish_> that line is already there in my sources list
[11:32] <manish_> but by default i am getting OO 2.4 and not 3.0
[11:32] <manish_> so how do i make it work for me
[11:32] <manish_> thanks for that correction
[11:32] <milos_> Jaxxon, , apt-cdrom
[11:33] <manish_> so wht do you suggest
[11:33] <Jaxxon> tnx milos_
[11:33] <manish_> first should i remove the OO3 folder from opt directory
[11:34] <milos_> manish_, if 3.0 works fine, you don't need anything to change. What do you want? Go back to 2.4?
[11:34] <manish_> no i want 3.0 but it is not working
[11:34] <manish_> i compiled it yesterday form RPM
[11:34] <manish_> but the 2.4 version i got it from the repos
[11:35] <manish_> now how do i upgrade it to 3.0 from the repos
[11:35] <milos_> manish_, then remove it with synaptic.
[11:35] <manish_> what the 3.0 thing
[11:36] <manish_> but how would i find it in synaptic when i did not get it from synaptic
[11:36] <manish_> or do you want me to remove the 2.4 one
[11:36] <manish_> c let me explaing it to you
[11:37] <milos_> manish_, alien make .deb files and you use synaptic to manipulate deb files. You can use synaptic, apt-get or aptitude or dpkg to do same thing
[11:37] <manish_> i have 2.4 installed from synaptic ok...? and it works fine .. then i installed 3.0 from the RPM yesterday and it keeps on crashing ... Now i want to have 3.0 that atleast works for me so now tell me how do i go about it
[11:38] <manish_> sorry i did not understand you ... can you please be little less techi...
[11:38] <manish_> so where is the deb file that alien created .. when i run it last night
[11:38] <milos_> manish_, first go to synaptic and remove every openoffice package
[11:38] <manish_> ok boss
[11:39] <jussi01> alien! bleh!!!
[11:39] <manish_> done
[11:39] <jussi01> there is a ppa with oOo 3.0 in it!!
[11:39] <manish_> and from the opt directory also
[11:39] <manish_> ??/
[11:39] <milos_> manish_, after that add: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main
[11:39] <milos_> manish_, just forget opt
[11:39] <manish_> already added
[11:39] <manish_> k
[11:39] <milos_> ok
[11:40] <milos_> then when click reload button in synaptic
[11:40] <manish_> ok
[11:40] <manish_> done
[11:40] <milos_> manish_,  and you should be able to find openoffice 3.0
[11:40] <milos_> and install it
[11:41] <manish_> in the synaptic
[11:41] <milos_> yeah
[11:41] <milos_> everything in synaptic
[11:43] <manish_> exactly by this name... openoffice3.0
[11:43] <manish_> there isnothing like that
[11:43] <erythrocyte> hi, can someone tell me if the new Powersave app has anything to do with Power Policy Manager from Intel and if it doesn't, are there plans to integrate it somehow into Kubuntu?
[11:43] <erythrocyte> hi, can someone tell me if the new Powerdevil app has anything to do with Power Policy Manager from Intel and if it doesn't, are there plans to integrate it somehow into Kubuntu?
[11:44] <manish_> there are openoffice3-writer openoffice-impress openoffice-math but nothing like openoffice3.0
[11:44] <erythrocyte> Intel's PPM website is at http://lesswatts.org/projects/power-policy/
[11:44] <milos_> manish_, install openoffice3-writer
[11:45] <manish_> tell me the components that i need to install
[11:45] <milos_> manish_, you should search for openoffice and look in Latest Version column for 3.0
[11:45] <manish_> if there is any thing without 3 tag on to it then i need not install it right....?
[11:47] <milos_> manish_, it isn't simple like that
[11:47] <manish_> ok
[11:47] <manish_> wait i will be right back
[11:48] <milos_> manish_, for example I have 1:2.4.1-11ubuntu4 so this is 2.4.1 version. You should figure out something similar for 3.0
[11:55] <mahdi> #linnuxac
[11:55] <Radar> !ask
[11:55] <Radar> Interesting.
[11:58] <blue_> hi everyone
[11:58] <blue_> total newbie here
[11:59] <blue_> just installed ubuntu 8.10 32 bit on my AMD X2 64 bit 3800 PC
[11:59] <blue_> all working, but i have a question
[12:00] <blue_> the system seems very sluggish, and the cpu load in system monitor is always around 50%, even with nothing being done
[12:00] <RurouniJones> You installed #ubuntu or #kubuntu?
[12:00] <blue_> when i do 2 things at a time, e.g. talk on skype, and watch a movie, the movie runs in slow motion
[12:00] <blue_> ubuntu
[12:00] <RurouniJones> Ok, that is an abnormal situation for usre
[12:01] <RurouniJones> ask in #ubuntu, it may ge a gnome issue
[12:01] <blue_> ok, thanks
[12:06] <ubuntu_> hola
[12:09] <ghostcube> hi i got a problem with enemy territory and kubuntu 8.10 x64  it claims it cant open /dev/dsp cause of beeing in use
[12:10] <manish> milo  now i have removed every openoffice component from my computer and now how do i install open office 3 from repos. i have added the repo you told me to add in the sources.list
[12:10] <ghostcube> hmm ok now after closing all audio apps it tells me it cant map /dev/dsp
[12:10] <milos_> manish_, for example I have 1:2.4.1-11ubuntu4 so this is 2.4.1 version. You should figure out something similar for 3.0
[12:10] <manish> milos_ now i have removed every openoffice component from my computer and now how do i install open office 3 from repos. i have added the repo you told me to add in the sources.list
[12:11] <ghostcube> iam on an intel hda card everything else working fine but i dont get the prob here
[12:11] <manish> i had been doing the same for this long nothing of that sort
[12:11] <kaminix> What's a good LaTeX editor for KDE?
[12:12] <milos_> manish, wait sec
[12:13] <manish> k
[12:14] <massimo_> hi, I need help with usb wireless stick Ub11b
[12:14] <massimo_> wired connection works, wifi don't, but changing the usb stick no problem at all
[12:15] <massimo_> is there anyone willing to help
[12:15] <manish> milos you done with your work..?
[12:16] <massimo_> no one helping
[12:16] <massimo_> ??
[12:16] <milos_> manish_, wait please, i am testing on my macihne
[12:16] <manish> k
[12:16] <manish> sorry
[12:18] <knpnic> hi. How do I create an application shortcut on kubuntu with kde 4.1?
[12:19] <manish> knpnic where do you want to create the shortcu
[12:20] <knpnic> on the desktop and/or on the bar on the bottom of the screen
[12:21] <knpnic> used to be no problem with previous versions, but now I can't find that item in the menues.
[12:22] <manish> just type the name of the app after clicking on the menu button and the app would appear
[12:22] <manish> knpnic does that solve your problem.
[12:23] <knpnic> oh and then you can rightclik it and ask it to end u on thedesktop or the panel. Ok. Thanks!
[12:24] <Lupus-SLE> Ahhh... morning #kubuntu , the support channel o champions!
[12:24] <manish> milos did you find any thing worth while
[12:24] <milos_> manish, nope
[12:25] <Lupus-SLE> Hey guise! has anybody been having issues with the restricted hardware manager as of late?
[12:26] <ubuntu_> can any body  help me
[12:26] <Lupus-SLE> Just me then?
[12:26] <ubuntu_> ????
[12:26] <Lupus-SLE> ubuntu_: Yes, bus drivers, therapists, nerds, we all can help you!
[12:27] <xray7224> what would you like help with
[12:27] <ubuntu_> i m not able to acces pages on my browser
[12:27] <xray7224> any pages ?
[12:27] <ubuntu_> it is showing http error
[12:27] <ubuntu_> ya all pages
[12:28] <Lupus-SLE> ubuntu_: That's serious... call the OR! Sorry I'm feeling unecesarrilly jolly today... what brwoser is it?
[12:28] <xray7224> can you try to ping 66.249.70.101
[12:28] <milos_> manish, sorry can't find it. Install regular 2.4 version until you find 3.0
[12:28] <ubuntu_> konqueror
[12:28] <xray7224> i dont know how you would get on irc without your connection working right
[12:28] <xray7224> but anyway
[12:29] <manish> milos so what is your suggestion what should i be doing to get OO 3
[12:29] <ubuntu_> ya its doing well
[12:29] <Lupus-SLE> ubuntu_: Do you use any form of proxy?
[12:29] <manish> milo if i download a deb file and install it that way  will i be able to get updates via repos
[12:29] <milos_> manish, wait sec
[12:30] <manish> got ya
[12:30] <ubuntu_> i get retno i am running on a live cd
[12:31] <Lupus-SLE> ubuntu_: Whack konsole open and sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:31] <Lupus-SLE> Post your results
[12:33] <manish> milo, u got something or a hint of something that can be done....
[12:33] <ubuntu_> it is downloading it
[12:33] <ubuntu_> but i have tired it firefox in fed 9
[12:34] <ubuntu_> it did nt work for me
[12:35] <levidos> i'm searching for a vnc viewer with repeater support. please help
[12:36] <milos_> manish, nope, didn't find anything. You should probably try to find another repository
[12:36] <manish> like... on google i have spent days not hours then only i am asking you experts
[12:40] <manish> milos ne ways last thing what compiz things will i have to isntall to have my awn working
[12:41] <milos_> manish, you can always compile it from source. But that can be very hard. Yes avant don't work without compiz
[12:43] <manish> so i installed a part of compiz but still its not working do you have any idea what i need to install to make it work
[12:43] <milos_> manish, about office3 https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive The problem was that packages were pulled off because of some problems
[12:44] <manish> ok so now what is the option
[12:44] <Dillizar> does any body know where can i find MEEBO
[12:44] <milos_> manish, wait until someone upload packages or compile from source
[12:45] <manish> meebo.com
[12:45] <manish> k and about awn
[12:45] <milos_> manish, install compiz, compiz-gnome
[12:45] <levidos> i'm searching for a vnc viewer with repeater support. please help
[12:47] <milos_> manish, just sudo apt-get install compiz
[12:47] <milos_> manish, I must go now
[12:51] <manish> ok have a nice time milos and thanks for the help
[12:51] <milos_> manish, you welcome
[12:55] <levidos> i'm searching for a vnc viewer with repeater support. any suggestions?
[13:02] <voicu> Hi, is there a way to disable all the transparent stuff in kde4
[13:02] <voicu> for example to make the desktop opaque
[13:02] <voicu> and all the widgets without translucency
[13:03] <voicu> I like all those effects but they're too cpu expensive
[13:07] <voicu> I dunno, KDE4 is really cool but there is a tiny delay between the click and the action it does, for example kopete and the tooltip with the away message
[13:07] <bdgraue> voicu: what cpu do you have, that the effects might be to heavy? i have an netbook with intel atom over here and very low cpu usage
[13:08] <voicu> is this happening to anyone else?
[13:08] <voicu> bdgraue: same here
[13:08] <bdgraue> which one?
[13:08] <voicu> i was referring to what i said just before you responded
[13:08] <voicu> n270 i think
[13:08] <bdgraue> which netbook?
[13:09] <voicu> it's a magway something
[13:09] <bdgraue> i have no problem with the effects, all smooth and fast
[13:09] <bdgraue> its better then with my desctop and nvidia card
[13:09] <voicu> yeah, the effects are ok but some renderings are visibly delayeed
[13:10] <voicu> when i restore a window
[13:10] <voicu> you can see for a split second the drawing of the borders and stuff
[13:10] <voicu> on kde3 it wasn't like that
[13:12] <voicu> or konversation takes about 0.5seconds to redraw itself when restoring it
[13:12] <voicu> almost a second actually
[13:12] <bdgraue> yes, that need some milliseconds
[13:14] <voicu> also, how do i put the desktop back?
[13:22] <versuchsanstalt> i am trying to set up xorg on a yukky laptop with an unichrome gfx card but i can not change the resolution to anything usable. what
[13:22] <versuchsanstalt> what is the easiest whay to create the correct modelines?
[13:43] <Walex2> versuchsanstalt: just search for them on the web.
[13:43] <wesley_> why doesnt work the Desktop effects plugin in kubuntu 8.04
[13:43] <Walex2> versuchsanstalt: e.g. http://www.sabi.co.uk/Cfg/X11/
[13:43] <versuchsanstalt> Walex2: ah, i see
[13:43] <versuchsanstalt> thanks for the hint
[13:43] <Walex2> versuchsanstalt: else use the 'gtf' command line util
[13:44] <versuchsanstalt> great
[13:45] <loicmarteau> Hello, im using kde compiled from trunk and i never get worked the mount of usb device properly
[13:45] <loicmarteau> i get some erros with hal
[13:45] <loicmarteau> who deni the access
[13:45] <loicmarteau> anyone know what to do with that ?
[13:46] <siekacz> hi
[13:46] <versuchsanstalt> Walex2: yeah, i was looking for something like gtf. thank you.
[13:46] <siekacz> are there any packages of KDE 4.2 beta 1 for (K)Ubuntu?
[13:47] <joseph> ciao
[13:47] <xp-killer> how to install a .sf file?
[13:48] <bazhang> !it | joseph
[13:50] <sedeki> How can I set default browser to firefox?
[13:51] <xp-killer> sedeki: it didnt ask u if u wanted to put as default?
[13:54] <sedeki> xp-killer: hum no
[13:56] <_S4MUR4I_> hi there o/
[13:59] <_S4MUR4I_> a question: how can i load an subtitle when i'm playing a movie in dragon player (sub in .str, same name of the movie)? Anyway, thank's for listening my question, dear reader (insert your nick here)!
[14:00] <zerwas> What's the best way to install the latest KDE 4.1 in Ubuntu 8.10?
[14:00] <loganWHD> i followed many of the links you all gave me and got my sound working in 8.10
[14:00] <loganWHD> anyhow, got my settings good and then i set up a windows VM for some programs i must run in win..... all is good... it is running in both... then i have to reboot... and bam
[14:00] <loganWHD> all sound stops working
[14:00] <loganWHD> and it is not muted
[14:00] <loganWHD> all sound stops working
[14:00] <loganWHD> any ideas?
[14:01] <Unksi> zerwas: install kubuntu-desktop from synaptic
[14:01] <xp-killer> loganWHD:  u had sound from befor?
[14:01] <loganWHD> i did
[14:02] <xp-killer> loganWHD: how u lose your sound?
[14:02] <loganWHD> i follow the links some f you guys gave me and it worked
[14:02] <loganWHD> all was good
[14:02] <xp-killer> loganWHD: then?
[14:02] <loganWHD> then i installed my XP VM in VMWare Workstation
[14:02] <zerwas> Unksi> no ppa or anything i should use to get the latest version?
[14:02] <loganWHD> opened that up
[14:02] <loganWHD> and it was working in that too
[14:02] <loganWHD> then no error... or anything
[14:02] <loganWHD> but it just stopped
[14:02] <loganWHD> in the VM and in Kubuntu
[14:03] <stdin> zerwas: 4.1.3 is in intrepid-backports
[14:03] <Unksi> zerwas: you might need to enable backports
[14:03] <zerwas> i found a ppa with 4.1.3 and will use that.
[14:04] <stdin> zerwas: why? when it's in the repos?
[14:04] <zerwas> 173 packages
[14:04] <zerwas> stdin> i don't want backports to be enabled for the rest of my system and i don't think i can only enable backports for KDE 4
[14:05] <stdin> zerwas: enable backports, install the kde4 updates then disable backports
[14:05] <stdin> you should only use a PPA from a trusted party, you have no clue what may be in those packages
[14:05] <zerwas> stdin> i know it's "dangerous" to enable a PPA. now it's too late
[14:06] <xp-killer> lol
[14:06] <xp-killer> linux killer
[14:09] <xp-killer> stdin: i try instalin TwonkyMedia sever with wine it install but seems not to work so i look how to install it on linux but dont understand http://www.twonkyvision.de/Download/TwonkyMedia/
[14:10] <xp-killer> stdin: it came with a .sh file :s
[14:10] <stdin> xp-killer: why are you asking me directly?
[14:10] <stdin> you know you should ask the channel rather than just me
[14:11] <xp-killer> causes i ask from befor no one answer me so u seen to know a good bit
[14:11] <stdin> download the .sh and run it
[14:11] <stdin> "bash twonkymedia-i386-glibc-2.2.5-20081002.sh"
[14:11] <xp-killer> stdin: i did download it and double click it and it open in kate as a text
[14:12] <stdin> open konsole and put in "bash twonkymedia-i386-glibc-2.2.5-20081002.sh", if you downloaded it to your home dir
[14:12] <stdin> else cd to the download dir and type in the command
[14:12] <xp-killer> stdin: it on my desktop
[14:13] <stdin> the "cd Desktop" then "bash twonkymedia-i386-glibc-2.2.5-20081002.sh"
[14:13] <stdin> that should start the setup
[14:15] <xp-killer> stdin: a msg pop up and told me "mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/TwonkyVision': Permission denied"
[14:15] <stdin> xp-killer: so it needs to be ran as root. "sudo bash twonkymedia-i386-glibc-2.2.5-20081002.sh"
[14:15] <hsystem> Hi, i have a question, how the h*** i can get compiz fusion to work on 8.10. I had installed the neccesary packages. Cube doesnt work...
[14:16] <stdin> !cube
[14:17] <hsystem> thx
[14:17] <xp-killer> stdin: ok it look like it install how im i sopose to run it now?
[14:19] <hsystem> Anybody running compiz with kde4?
[14:19] <xp-killer> stdin: the .sh file was just a script no?
[14:20] <stdin> xp-killer: the .sh was an installer, I see on the page there is download for the installation guide
[14:21] <xp-killer> stdin: its nowhere in my Kmenu
[14:22] <stdin> "To start the server manually, either invoke it manually in the installation directory, or invoke it
[14:22] <stdin> with the start script twonkymedia.sh. The script will first look for an installation in
[14:22] <stdin> /usr/local/TwonkyVision and then in the directory where the script itself is installed."
[14:22] <stdin> read the guide maybe?
[14:33] <douglas_> anyone can assit me to get nvidia geforce 8400mG driver for ubuntu 8 10
[14:34] <ghostcube> hi i got a problem with enemy territory and kubuntu 8.10 x64  it claims it cant mmap /dev/dsp cause of beeing in use this workaround helps but why is this needed anyone an idea sudo killall artsd sudo -iecho "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss exit et
[14:35] <ghostcube> douglas_, isnt the 177.80 driver working with this one ?
[14:36] <SlimeyPete> ghostcube: presumably it's needed because ET was written to use OSS instead of ALSA
[14:36] <SlimeyPete> which has been a source of problems ever since it was released, really
[14:37] <ghostcube> SlimeyPete, hmm yeah it worked fine until i build my new pc and here i have an intel onboard hda and before it was an soundblaster live 1024 is there any change or alsa package needed to get this working like on 8.04
[14:39] <SlimeyPete> ghostcube: no idea, sorry - haven't played ET in a while.
[14:40] <ghostcube> hmm ok :)
[14:41] <hsystem> alt + f2 doesnt seems to work. (Launch program)
[14:41] <hsystem> in 8.10
[14:46] <ghostcube> hsystem, hmm i noticed this too but thats not for long now
[14:46] <hsystem> how do i launch a command but i dont the terminal window to stay.. forced there
[14:46] <hsystem> dont want*
[14:47] <ghostcube> command & disown
[14:47] <hsystem> explain... pls
[14:47] <ghostcube> kate & disown   into terminal
[14:47] <hsystem> add disown ???
[14:47] <hsystem> ok
[14:48] <hsystem> nice !
[14:49] <hsystem> ehm and why after update it appears double progress bar at boot.
[14:50] <hsystem> guess because kernel update?
[14:50] <jnw222> happens
[14:50] <hsystem> ehm, i know it happens, How do i fix that? replace that image or?
[14:52] <radovich> hello
[14:53] <BluesKaj> howdy
[14:53] <radovich> i need help: which package should bring me the left click shortcut in konqueror for ark to "extract here" and not only "extract to"
[14:53] <radovich> how are you BluesKaj?
[14:54] <ghostcube> SlimeyPete, i got the fix
[14:54] <ghostcube> and it is sooooo simple lol i just found it
[14:54] <ghostcube> dpkg -l alsa*  i was missing alsa-oss
[14:55] <BluesKaj> hi radovich , I'm just fine and you ?
[14:55] <Reptile> How many of u uses firewall and if yes, which package ?
[14:55] <radovich> fine... drinking coffee with me sister
[14:55] <radovich> :)
[14:56] <ghostcube> Reptile, u can try the ufw gui for the iüptables u already have
[15:00] <radovich> anyone knows whick package provides this konqueror shortcut for ark?
[15:00] <radovich> *which
[15:02] <matisse> why does konqueror change file type handling for every ending (.txt .tex .footext, etc.) if I just want to connect .tex with kile ?
[15:04] <matisse> every ending = "simple text" files
[15:07] <hsystem> !compiz
[15:08] <BluesKaj> radovich, not sure radovich , konq/file associations/inode/directory?...I'm not sure about this suggestion but you try it
[15:08] <BluesKaj> can try it
[15:09] <sancho21__> Is it true that, we can not keep our configurations and changes in usb-drive ubuntu? It just looks like live cd ubuntu.
[15:10] <sancho21__> Except we install it using usual way and targeting it to the usb
[15:10] <radovich> thank you very much!
[15:11] <BluesKaj> !woof
[15:11] <BluesKaj> !info Woof
[15:25] <oim> hi ı have been installed picasa 3. then ı delete picasa package. now i cant open any package manager. is there any way to clean package sources
[15:26] <oim> this is what ı see when try to open adept http://paste.ubuntu.com/78295/
[15:27] <voicu> this might not be kubuntu-related but my network connection keeps going from fast to really slow (on LAN). i'm transferring files between my computers and some connections have 3-4mb/s while others 100kb/s
[15:28] <voicu> can this be a problem caused by network-manager?
[15:28] <voicu> it seemed to go better when i removed it
[15:37] <francisc1701> oim: read this: http://www.ubuntux.org/synaptic-sudden-reboot-exclusive-lock-problem
[15:37] <oim> francisc1701: thanks
[15:37] <francisc1701> oim: no problem
[15:46] <oim> how to open file manageras root
[15:46] <avare> gksudo name of file managers
[15:47] <sedeki> How can I clear packages that isn't being used anymore?
[15:48] <faileas> sedeki: apt-get autoremove i think
[15:49] <sedeki> yes
[15:49] <sedeki> thanks!
[15:49] <oim> thanks to every one
[15:49] <faileas> apt-get autoclean would take care of saved packages as well
[15:50] <sedeki> faileas: how does it determine what isnt being used?
[15:51] <faileas> sedeki: thats what dependancy management is for
[15:58] <joselito> hola
[15:59] <joselito> tengo un problema, y esq no tengo sonido en el kubuntu 8.10
[15:59] <joselito> alguien me podria ayudar?
[16:00] <joselito> alguien me puede ayudar a pner el sonido en el kubunut?????????????????
[16:02] <faileas> !es
[16:02] <joselito> hi
[16:03] <joselito> alguien puede ayudarme
[16:03] <Lokiase> Hello. In windows I can access and write to a shared folder in MyBook World Edition (after giving username and psw) . In kubuntu I can access the shared folder but not write in it. What is wrong, who can help me???
[16:04] <joselito> hola, no tengo sonido desde que instale el 8.10
[16:05] <dr_willis> Lokiase,  if its NTFS filesystem you need to mountit properly with the  ntfs-3g tools to have full access to it.
[16:05] <_gunni_> !es joselito
[16:05] <faileas> Lokiase: probably incorrect permissions on the server side
[16:05] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[16:05] <_gunni_> !es
[16:05] <Lokiase> dr_willis and faileas, can you hep me step by step...?
[16:05] <dr_willis> Lokiase,  this could be done by installing/running the ' ntfs-config ' tool., or by manually editing the /etc/fstab
[16:06] <Lokiase> dr_willes, shorter steps :p
[16:06] <joselito> hola
[16:06] <dr_willis> Lokiase,  so i would check that url, and download/install the ntfs-config tool.
[16:06] <joselito> alguien puede ayudarme?
[16:06] <dr_willis> and run it.
[16:06] <dr_willis> a few clicks and it should be setup
[16:06] <joselito> no tengo sonido en el 8,1'
[16:06] <Lokiase> dr_willis, you are going too fast for me :s
[16:07] <Lokiase> its a NAS, the Mybook
[16:07] <Lokiase> I can find it under samba
[16:07] <Lokiase> access it
[16:07] <Lokiase> but not write on it
[16:07] <Lokiase> and in windows I can
[16:07] <hsystem> the Now Playing widget doesnt work??? with amarok?
[16:07] <dr_willis> You mean its not a USB drive? If its a samba share - then you need to set up the proper permissions then on the server I imagine.
[16:07] <hsystem> using kde4
[16:07] <Lokiase> dr_willis, how?:s
[16:08] <joselito> speak spanih??????
[16:08] <dr_willis> No idea. i dont have one of those drives..i would check their docs/config tools for that drive.
[16:08] <Lokiase> they don't support Linux... but the NAS is linux, strange:)
[16:08] <bazhang> !es
[16:08] <dr_willis> Lokiase,  check the forums/google for info on the thing I guess. the one NDAS drive i have  requires special drivers.. its not a 'samba' server..
[16:09] <dr_willis> It might support NFS if you are lucky
[16:09] <Lokiase> I checked but too difficult for me
[16:09] <dr_willis> Guess ya got some learning to do then. Or get lucky and find a forum/site with more detailed info.
[16:09] <matisse> why does konqueror change file type handling for every "simple text" (.txt etc.) if I just want to connect .tex with kile ?
[16:10] <faileas> Lokiase: then its probably using samba, and you don't have permissiond on how to use it
[16:10] <dr_willis> Lokiase,   its possible you may be able to manually mount the share, and give the proper user/password to it from the command line.
[16:12] <BERK-> selamlar.
[16:14] <Lokiase> dr_willis, how do I mount it manually?
[16:28] <roland> problem with kde... enabled some sort of desktop effects in system settings.. and now nothing appears after login
[16:28] <roland> how can i disable them through console
[16:30] <BluesKaj> roland , no desktop?
[16:31] <roland> login screen appears.. but after logging in... everything disappears
[16:32] <BluesKaj> are you on the TTY ?
[16:32] <roland> what\s the tty?
[16:33] <BluesKaj> like the terminal /shell
[16:33] <roland> i\m on a live cd right now..
[16:33] <BluesKaj> ok
[16:33] <roland> i\ll get another laptop
[16:34] <roland> so i can be online & fix at the same time
[16:35] <BluesKaj> roland , in the terminal:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:36] <BluesKaj> it will ask you if you want to fix "X" , click yes
[16:36] <BluesKaj> the Xserver actually
[16:37] <_gunni_> roland: wait a minute, i ll have a look for the file
[16:37] <roland> crappy vista machine has trouble booting anyway
[16:38] <slow-motion> hi
[16:38] <untiled> hi, someone know how to configure connection on my desktop? i know adsl username and password but i don't know hw to configure it
[16:38] <_gunni_> roland: .kde/share/config/kwinrc
[16:40] <Jaxxon> hi I have added the kubuntu 8.10 cd rom to my repo, but when I run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop it wants to download it from internet, I want to install kde from cd rom
[16:40] <_gunni_> Jaxxon:
[16:41] <_gunni_> I think its because the packages in the online repos are newer, maybe if you comment all online repos it works?
[16:42] <dougl> sorry if repeating...
[16:42] <dougl> I have installed klikit linux (customized kubuntu from my understanding) is this a good place to discuss that distro?
[16:42] <BluesKaj> dougl, never heard of it
[16:43] <RurouniJones> dougl: This is for the KDE version of ubuntu so probably not
[16:43] <BluesKaj> !klikit linux
[16:43] <RurouniJones> #kde might be able to help
[16:43] <RurouniJones> For KDE related questions anyway
[16:44] <RurouniJones> hmm, it is based on kubuntu so people might be able to help here I suppose.
[16:44] <rot> Hi
[16:44] <rot> how can i make my computer run as like server
[16:45] <RurouniJones> That is such an open ended question you are unlikely to get an answer
[16:45] <RurouniJones> Give us eamples of what you mean. No GUI? Minimal package installation?
[16:46] <hsystem> Hi, question, why i cant get cpu and hdd temperature. yes i installed hddtemp lm_sensors, etc.
[16:46] <RurouniJones> rot: I am guessing but this is probably what you want http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition
[16:46] <hsystem> and also done sensors-detect
[16:47] <dougl> k - thanks :)
[16:47] <rot> yeah but i have kubuntu i
[16:48] <RurouniJones> If you are going without a GUI then it makes no difference
[16:48] <Jaxxon> _gunni_: I have commented all the online repos, but it doesn't work too
[16:48] <_gunni_> Jaxxon: No more idea on my side
[16:50] <Deiz> Jaxxon: Have you done an apt-get update?
[16:50] <Jaxxon> Deiz: I have added the kubuntu 8.10 cd rom to my repo, but when I run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop it wants to download it from internet, I want to install kde from cd rom
[16:51] <Deiz> Jaxxon: Do an apt-get update to sync the repo list.
[16:51] <Jaxxon> Deiz: I do this, but it doesn't work too
[16:51] <Deiz> What does it output?
[16:52] <Jaxxon> Deiz: http://phpfi.com/383719
[16:52] <Deiz> What's the exact command you're inputting?
[16:53] <Jaxxon> Deiz: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[16:53] <Deiz> If you do "apt-get update && apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" it should work.
[16:53] <Deiz> As the CD repo definitely contains kubuntu-desktop as a meta-package
[16:55] <Jaxxon> Deiz: it doesn't work, the cd is kubuntu 8.10
[16:58] <yankus> .
[16:58] <TheFuzzball> ..
[16:58] <yankus> работает
[16:58] <yankus> что-то
[16:59] <TheFuzzball> English please.
[16:59] <yankus> thank you
[16:59] <Deiz> Jaxxon: Can you install anything from the CD, or is always not found?
[16:59] <Nece228> when there gonna be kde 4.2 beta packages for intrepid?
[17:00] <Jaxxon> Deiz: I don't examine it
[17:01] <Deiz> I suggest trying to refresh the package list with a graphical package manager, like Adept.
[17:05] <Roland123> _gunni_: i changed the kwinrc file, how do i get back to kde login screen?
[17:05] <Roland123> ctrl+shift+delete doesn't seem to work
[17:05] <_gunni_> Roland123: Are you in a terminal?
[17:06] <Roland123> k, i accidentally rebooted the system
[17:06] <_gunni_> And where are you now?
[17:06] <Roland123> booting up...
[17:06] <Roland123> @ the login  screen
[17:07] <_gunni_> So hope it works now ...
[17:07] <Nece228> when there gonna be kde 4.2 beta packages for intrepid?
[17:07] <_gunni_> Nece228: Maybe you can try nighly packages
[17:07] <_gunni_> !neon
[17:07] <Nece228> _gunni_ thanks mate, ill try that!
[17:08] <Roland123> wow... back in  kde
[17:09] <TheFuzzball> My apt is broken! :'(
[17:09] <Roland123> i still have some problems... like i can't enable nvidia drivers
[17:10] <Roland123> after install.. i got the option to enable it.. but it failed... with no error message, it just said sorry
[17:10] <Nece228> _gunni_ it didnt work
[17:11] <Nece228> _gunni_ applied reposity, refreshed apt in synaptic but theres same kd
[17:11] <Nece228> ee
[17:12] <TheFuzzball> apt-get spits out "Can't locate Dpkg.pm in @INC" and a load of other stuff when I try to install anything, it is because I compiled my own Perl and installed it. Is there a quick fix for this?
[17:12] <darrell> Is the 8.04 repo down? I can't install anything
[17:12] <TheFuzzball> btw, I've tried sudo apt-get install --reinstall lib*-perl
[17:13] <hsystem> Problem with sensors here... anybody that had experience with this.
[17:14] <Nece228> _gunni_ kde-nightly is this correct?
[17:15] <_gunni_> Nece228: Thats the package you need. It installs parallel to kde 4.1, so you can choose on login screen
[17:16] <Roland123> _gunni_: do you know anything about enabling restricted drivers?
[17:17] <_gunni_> Roland123: Which drivers?
[17:17] <Nece228> _gunni_ i got error
[17:17] <_gunni_> Nece228: Did you change hardy to intrepid in the package line?
[17:18] <_gunni_> Roland123: Ah i see, nvidia, which card do you have?
[17:18] <Nece228> _gunni_ oops
[17:18] <_gunni_> Nece228: can happen :)
[17:19] <Nece228> _gunni_ thanks, that problem gone
[17:19] <Nece228> _gunni_ ao kde-nightly will install kde 4.2?
[17:20] <_gunni_> afaik these packages are build from trunk, so its kde 4.2 at the moment
[17:21] <Nece228> _gunni_ cool, finally ill try kde 4.2 :)
[17:21]  * Nece228 downloading
[17:22] <_gunni_> Nece228: I am sure there will be regular 4.2 packages soon, but devs seem busy atm
[17:22] <Nece228> _gunni_ what do you mean by regular packages?
[17:22] <Nece228> _gunni_ stable packages or somethink?
[17:23] <TheFuzzball> Crap, I think I just killed my Kubuntu :(
[17:23] <_gunni_> packages as replacement for 4.1 maybe, but still beta, as 4.2 is announced for january or february
[17:24] <Nece228> _gunni_ so im downloading kde 4.2 beta1 right/
[17:24] <TheFuzzball> NOOOO!#
[17:24] <TheFuzzball> :'(
[17:25] <webmaren> i'm getting a printer communication error when trying to do anything with my hp photosmart c5180
[17:25] <_gunni_> Nece228: Not exactly, as its trunk its taken from the svn
[17:25] <Nece228> i dont know why but every third time kubuntu dont boots, it looks like monitor dont have signal
[17:26] <Nece228> _gunni_ no matter the most important thing is that i wanna see new kde 4.2 features
[17:29] <prometheus77> i have a numpad not working issue, where is the best place to report this bug
[17:30] <PhilRod> prometheus77: best to describe the problem here and see if it's just a setup thing
[17:31] <prometheus77> my numpad works when i log out of kde 3.XX but when i log in, it stopps working, the numlight is always on
[17:34] <PhilRod> when you say "stops working", do you mean the keys do nothing at all, or that it's stuck in numlocked/unlocked mode?
[17:37] <prometheus77> how 2 test?
[17:38] <prometheus77> yes, it seems suck in scroll mode, pressing 8 goes up and pressing 2 goes down on the konversation chat window
[17:38] <prometheus77> but the light is on
[17:45] <PhilRod> prometheus77: do you have kde set to turn on numlock at startup?
[17:49] <Shaan7> my network interface doesn't work on kubuntu 8.10, even after a clean reinstall. it shows "eth0 disconnected" if wire plugged in, and "eth0 down" if wire not plugged in.works fine on ubuntu 8.10
[17:50] <prometheus77> let mecheck
[17:50] <prometheus77> i have it set leave unchainged PhilRod
[17:52] <jhutchins> Shaan7: What card?
[17:54] <Shaan7> jhutchins: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6262454
[17:54] <Shaan7> jhutchins: its Intel Corporation 82573L Gigabit Ethernet Controller
[17:55] <Shaan7> jhutchins: i have to use a manual ip , verified the settings are correct
[17:59] <jhutchins> Shaan7: does lsmod show the driver being loaded?
[18:00] <jhutchins> Shaan7: What device are you connecting to?
[18:01] <ezgo6> Sould I upgrade to 8.10?...I need a stable work platform.
[18:01] <Shaan7> jhutchins: i'm unsure of how to use the lsmod output, should i show it to you?
[18:01] <jhutchins> Shaan7: Look for the driver for the card.
[18:01] <Shaan7> jhutchins: i'm using the knetworkmanager, new connection in eth0 and then specifying the ip details
[18:01] <Shaan7> jhutchins: ok
[18:02] <jhutchins> Shaan7: I'd recommend configuring it manually from the console.  Find the right driver module (you might have to search with google), make an alias for it in modprobe config, etc.
[18:03] <Shaan7> jhutchins: lsmod | grep -i "eth0" doesn't give any output
[18:03] <Shaan7> jhutchins: does this mean the driver isn't installed ?
[18:05] <PhilRod> prometheus77: (oops, sorry about the delay - got distracted). Some things you could try: take a look at the output of 'xev' when you hit the numpad keys, in kde and some other wm. You could also try with a newly-created user - that'll tell you whether the problem is to do with something in your local config
[18:06] <jhutchins> No, the driver won't be eth0, it will be something pertinent to the card.
[18:07] <jhutchins> Shaan7: Have you booted with the cable connected?  Looks like ubuntu has a known bug with this controller.
[18:08] <Shaan7> jhutchins: tried both
[18:08] <ezgo6> join #ubuntu
[18:08] <thomas__> hi
[18:09] <jhutchins> Shaan7: Your module is probably "e1000".
[18:09] <Shaan7> jhutchins: the grep for e1000 shows "e1000e                112680  0"
[18:10] <jhutchins> Shaan7: What does uname -r give you?
[18:10] <Shaan7> jhutchins: 2.6.27-9-generic
[18:10] <alex_21> Hi, I want to move dhcpd and ltsp from eht0 to eht1. On eth1, I already have Zimbra and Apache?
[18:13] <jhutchins> Shaan7: Wild chance this may help: sudo depmod -r e1000e && sudo depmod e1000e then reboot.
[18:13] <jhutchins> Shaan7: (have network cable connected when rebooting.)
[18:13] <Shaan7> jhutchins: k thanks, let me try, i'll be back
[18:14] <Shaan7> jhutchins: error "WARNING: Can't read module e1000e: No such file or directory"
[18:15] <Shaan7> jhutchins: that warning is displayed two times
[18:15] <jimbo> how come my cdrom isn't reading my floppy?
[18:15] <jhutchins> Shaan7: Odd.
[18:16] <jimbo> i jammed it in there good
[18:16] <jhutchins> Shaan7: lsmod clearly shows e1000e, right?
[18:16] <Shaan7> jhutchins: does all this mean the driver is not installed? or its just not working correctly?
[18:16] <jhutchins> Shaan7: There are known problems with this card and it's driver.
[18:17]  * stmartin : any unicode fonts for UNIX?
[18:17]  * stmartin : Please.
[18:17] <Shaan7> jhutchins: yep it shows
[18:17] <Shaan7> jhutchins: ok, then i'm just unlucky
[18:17] <jhutchins> stmartin: Yes, linux/unix supports unicode.
[18:17] <Shaan7> jhutchins: well a general question, ubuntu and kubuntu handle inetrfacs differently?
[18:18] <Shaan7> jhutchins: because it works fine on ubuntu 8.10
[18:18] <jhutchins> Shaan7: Yeah, just happens to be one that's buggy right now.  You can try live CD's for other distros and see if any of them have fixed it.
[18:18] <stmartin> jhutchins why some characters in Character map aren't shown correctly( 2x2 box with letters and #) ?
[18:18] <jhutchins> Shaan7: No, the underlying structure is the same, it's just the desktop that's different.
[18:18] <jhutchins> Shaan7: How did you switch to kubuntu?
[18:19] <wimpies> is there a qt 4.4 version for hardy ?
[18:19] <Shaan7> jhutchins: ubuntu and kubuntu are installed on two different partitions
[18:19] <Shaan7> jhutchins: sda5 and sda7 repspectively
[18:19] <jhutchins> Shaan7: I wonder if they both have the same kernel version, that could be the difference.
[18:19] <jhutchins> gotta go for a bit, back later.
[18:20] <Shaan7> jhutchins: i've updated both to newest version, updated kubuntu using my mobile phone gprs connection
[18:20] <Shaan7> jhutchins: *newest version of kernel
[18:20] <alex_21> Hey, I want to make a oficial fork like Kubuntu. Who do I talk to?
[18:30] <jimbo> alex_21: i don't know, but i guess you should make the fork first, and then try to have it made official.
[18:31] <BluesKaj> alex_21, http://www.canonical.com/ ?
[18:35] <PleXuS> hi all, anyone known how to fix packages?
[18:35] <PleXuS> getting a problem when installing firefox 3 onto kde4
[18:35] <PleXuS> /var/lib/dpkg/info/xulrunner-1.9.postinst: 5: /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9: not found
[18:42] <prometheus77> PhilRod: all of the buttons work in xev, except the "numlock" key. very strange. I will try to create a new user in a few seconds
[18:43] <trappist> PleXuS: I wonder if you ran out of disk space or something.  /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9 is part of the xulrunner-1.9 package.
[18:43] <PleXuS> trappist, no it just happened when upgrading.. firefox failed
[18:43] <PhilRod> prometheus77: hardy?
[18:44] <PleXuS> trappist, 300Gb free ;)
[18:44] <trappist> PleXuS: does /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9 exist on your box?
[18:45] <trappist> PleXuS: also does this exist: /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.0.4/xulrunner
[18:45] <prometheus77> PhilRod: the newest version, or how do i check?
[18:45] <PleXuS> no xul
[18:46] <prometheus77> PhilRod: , i just switched to new user, but no change, imma logout and then try new user, maybe even restart x
[18:46] <PleXuS> trappist, but in lib dir it exists
[18:46] <prometheus77> PhilRod: i will be back in 10 mins please wait
[18:46] <PhilRod> prometheus77: er, embarrasingly, I don't know how to check version - someone here will though
[18:46] <PhilRod> ok
[18:50] <PleXuS> trappist, any idea how to fix it? :)
[18:50] <trappist> PleXuS: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.0.4/xulrunner /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9
[18:51] <trappist> PleXuS: then try sudo apt-get -f install
[18:52] <PleXuS> trappist, stil the same
[18:52] <trappist> PleXuS: what does this say: ls -l /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9
[18:52] <trappist> PleXuS: also, you're on intrepid, right?
[18:52] <PleXuS> yes
[18:53] <PleXuS> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 2008-11-30 19:51 /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9 -> /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.0.4/xulrunner
[18:53] <PleXuS> trappist, thats the result
[18:53] <trappist> and it's not like red or flashing or anything, right?
[18:54] <PleXuS> its red
[18:54] <prometheus77> PhilRod: strangest thing, new account didn't do anything, and pressing caplock turned off the numlock key permanently :(
[18:54] <PleXuS> but not flashing
[18:54] <trappist> PleXuS: ok that indicates a broken symlink.  did you say /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.0.4/xulrunner exists?
[18:55] <prometheus77> PhilRod: scrollock is busted too
[18:55] <PleXuS> the lib dir did exist
[18:55] <PhilRod> prometheus77: I had some issues with keyboard identification in intrepid - if you're running it, you might have the same thing. I didn't investigate it much though. Someone else might be able to point you in the right direction
[18:55] <trappist> PleXuS: not sure what that means exactly, but does the file I mentioned exist?
[18:56] <PleXuS> trappist, only not the one you say this one do exist --> /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.0.4
[18:56] <prometheus77> imma restart after i delete my xorg config
[18:56] <PleXuS> trappist, seems no xulrunner map inside it :s
[18:56] <prometheus77> if i do not return in 20 mins something went horribly wrong
[18:56] <dr_willis> prometheus77,  you just need to restart the X server..
[18:56] <dr_willis> Not the system
[18:57] <trappist> PleXuS: ok that's the problem then.  I can't see which package is supposed to proved that file.  are other files in there, like xulrunner-bin, xulrunner-stub, xpidl etc.?
[18:57] <trappist> s/proved/provide/
[18:58] <PleXuS> trappist, inside this dir --> usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.0.4  ?
[18:58] <trappist> yes
[19:00] <prometheus77> so i don't have an xorg.config anymore :()
[19:00] <prometheus77> and um?
[19:00] <trappist> prometheus77: that's ok, it's supposed to be xorg.conf
[19:00] <trappist> PleXuS: ping
[19:01] <prometheus77> trappist: i don't have that either
[19:01] <prometheus77> i ddid rm -rf /etc/X11/xorg.co*
[19:01] <PleXuS> trappist, defaults            dictionaries  icons           libmozjs.so    libxpcom.so
[19:01] <PleXuS> dependentlibs.list  greprefs      libjemalloc.so  libpyxpcom.so  libxul.so
[19:01] <trappist> prometheus77: why'd you do that
[19:01] <PleXuS> those are the files in it :)
[19:01] <prometheus77> to fix mah keyboard
[19:01] <PleXuS> and dirs :)
[19:01] <prometheus77> it didn't work
[19:02] <trappist> prometheus77: yeah rm -rf isn't usually a fixy command.
[19:02] <trappist> PleXuS: you're missing all kinds of stuff... gimme a second to see if I can talk apt-file into telling me which package is supposed to give you the missing stuff...
[19:02] <prometheus77> i lold
[19:03] <PleXuS> trappist, ok thanks ;)
[19:03] <stdin> trappist, PleXuS: "xulrunner-1.9" is the package
[19:04] <trappist> stdin: oh yeah, didn't think to try dpkg -L... PleXuS is somehow missing a bunch of that stuff
[19:05] <PleXuS> stdin, yeah but i can't install it .. getting allways that error message
[19:05] <PleXuS> dpkg -L should do the trick? :)
[19:05] <trappist> PleXuS: it doesn't do any tricks ;)  just lists the contents of a given package
[19:06] <stdin> I'd say to try "touch /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9", then "sudo apt-get --reinstall install xulrunner-1.9"
[19:06] <stdin> and repeat for any other missing files
[19:06] <PleXuS> but this happened when installing firefox 3 on KDE4 really weard
[19:06] <trappist> stdin: he's already got /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9, it's a broken symlink to a missing file in the libdir
[19:07] <trappist> stdin: and the error he gets, he gets installing the xulrunner-1.9 package, but...
[19:07] <stdin> trappist: that's why you use touch, it'll create an empty file
[19:07] <stdin> it's just there so dpkg can remove it
[19:07] <trappist> PleXuS: yeah try what stdin said, he's making more sense than I am atm :)
[19:08] <PleXuS> /var/lib/dpkg/info/xulrunner-1.9.postinst: 5: /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9: Permission denied
[19:09] <PleXuS> now getting this error :)
[19:09] <stdin> with the "sudo apt-get --reinstall install xulrunner-1.9" command?
[19:09] <PleXuS> yeah
[19:09] <stdin> what does "ls -l/usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9" show now?
[19:09] <PleXuS> stdin, and first the touch
[19:10] <stdin> I probably meant "sudo touch ..."
[19:10] <prometheus77> how do i manually configure my keyboard ?
[19:10] <PleXuS> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 2008-11-30 19:51 /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9 -> /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.0.4/xulrunner
[19:10] <PleXuS> stdin, indeed sudo before it ;)
[19:10] <stdin> PleXuS: do "sudo rm /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9" then "sudo touch /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9"
[19:11] <voicu_> hi, i have a problem with my network connection. it's very slow (20-30kB/s) and if i type ifconfig a few times, i see that the number of dropped packets is like 200million/second
[19:11] <stdin> then try the apt-get command again
[19:11] <voicu_> what could do that?
[19:11] <PleXuS> stdin, and then the reinstall rule?
[19:12] <stdin> yeah
[19:12] <trappist> voicu_: a bad cable, bad router/switch/hub, cable's too long or something, possibly a bad driver for your card, or the list is different if this is a wireless device
[19:13] <PleXuS> /var/lib/dpkg/info/xulrunner-1.9.postinst: 5: /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9: Permission denied
[19:13] <stdin> ahh, I think I see. hold on
[19:13] <trappist> I guess it wants it to be executable
[19:13] <voicu_> trappist: it's a realtek wire card connected to a router through a switch, i also have a not connected wireless realtek
[19:13] <voicu_> trappist: the router has no problem
[19:13] <alex_21> I have a similar issue
[19:13] <alex_21> I have a desperate network problem I must fix. Here is what I get from /tc/init.d/networking restart * reconfiguring network interfaces... rtnetlink no such process. What can I do about it
[19:14] <trappist> voicu_: another possibility is a bad route... what does `route -n | grep ^0` say?
[19:14] <PleXuS> stdin, i don't see it :) never had this issue before :)
[19:15] <stdin> PleXuS: try removing xulrunner-1.9 first
[19:15] <voicu_> trappist, hmm 192.168.1.0 on gateway 0.0.0.0, 169.254.0.0 on 0.0.0.0
[19:15] <PleXuS> stdin, how you mean? uninstalling it?
[19:15] <stdin> PleXuS: "sudo apt-get remove xulrunner-1.9"
[19:16] <alex_21> 169 is a self-assigned IP
[19:16] <trappist> voicu_: neither of those look right, but the 169 address is probably for your disconnected wireless card
[19:16] <trappist> voicu_: try this: sudo route add default gw ip.of.your.router
[19:17] <coppro> anyone have experience making compiz work well under KDE? My only issue left is that plasma gets messed up and I have to start it manually
[19:17] <PleXuS> stdin, fixed ;)
[19:17] <PleXuS> stdin, trappist thanks for the help!!
[19:17] <trappist> coppro: I had that problem at the beginning, but it seems to have resolved itself - possibly because I installed and used fusion-icon, which is supposed to handle the compiz startup stuff for you
[19:18] <stdin> I don't know why it happened, I can install firefox fine
[19:18] <voicu_> trappist: i did that but there was another item i didn
[19:18] <trappist> coppro: that is, I'm starting compiz by adding fusion-icon to my kde startup
[19:18] <coppro> trappist: oh. Didn't know about that one... let's see
[19:18] <PleXuS> stdin, it happend with upgrading
[19:18] <coppro> currently, I have a simple shell script
[19:18] <PleXuS> stdin, but i did used the gui maybe thats the problem :)
[19:18] <voicu_> trappist: i didn't  see at first: destination 0.0.0.0 through 192.168.1.1, which is ok, rihgt?
[19:18] <trappist> coppro: yeah that's how I started, and my plasma would crash
[19:19] <coppro> well, it doesn't crash, it just gets messed up
[19:19] <trappist> voicu_: if that's the ip of your router, yeah
[19:19] <stdin> PleXuS: shouldn't really matter, it just uses apt in the background
[19:19] <voicu_> trappist: then what other software problem can it be? i'm kinda sure the cables/switches are ok
[19:19] <trappist> voicu_: I wonder if that other one's not interfering, though - I dunno why you'd have two for 0.0.0.0
[19:20] <coppro> also, while I'm here, how do I change the umask for KDE?
[19:20] <PleXuS> stdin, yeah i known :) do you maybe known how to make tunnel network device ?
[19:20] <PleXuS> stdin, trying to access it with vbox as host interface but i can't ping it from inside my vbox :s
[19:21] <PleXuS> i maybe did something wrong :s
[19:21] <voicu_> trappist: how could the wireless card interfere, it's not even enabled
[19:22] <stdin> PleXuS: I would think VirtualBox would take care of that. maybe someone in #vbox knows if you need to do it manually
[19:22] <DeviantPeer> Hi all.
[19:22] <voicu_> trappist: i did an ifdown, ifup and now i have a single gw for 0.0.0.0 which is the router
[19:22] <voicu_> trappist: the packets still flow like crazy
[19:23] <DeviantPeer> I trying to mount a udf DVD, but the mount point allways get's a 000 permissions, rendering anyone (apart from root) unable to access the directory
[19:23] <trappist> voicu_: the theory was that the presence of the card added a second default route that maybe confused things, but if getting rid of it doesn't help, the theory was wrong :)
[19:24] <voicu_> trappist: hmm, then i'll do some permutations on the wires and see what happens :P
[19:24] <Roland123> how to make konsole transparent?
[19:25] <DeviantPeer> anyone?
[19:25] <coppro> Roaldn123: if you have transparency on, you should be able to right-click the title bar and adjust the opacity
[19:25] <coppro> DeviantPeer: try chmodding the directory you mount to
[19:25] <coppro> also, make sure the proper mount option is set (I think you want ro
[19:26] <stdin> DeviantPeer: mount /device /place -o umask=000
[19:26] <voicu_> trappist: i unplugged the wire and the card still has many dropped packets
[19:26] <DeviantPeer> coppro: first thing I tried. but "chmod: changing permissions of `Pictures/': Read-only file system"
[19:26] <voicu_> trappist: that should mean it's only a software problem
[19:26] <DeviantPeer> stdin: also tried that. didn't work... :(
[19:26] <voicu_> trappist: it can
[19:26] <coppro> DeviantPeer: umount it, then change, the remount. And make sure you have ro in fstab or -o ro on the mount command
[19:27] <stdin> DeviantPeer: what about "-o uid=$(id -u)" ?
[19:27] <DeviantPeer> coppro: trying with mount (no change to fstab)
[19:27] <DeviantPeer> stdin: I'm trying it now.
[19:27] <voicu_> trappist: damn keyboard... any other ideas? :D
[19:28] <Roland123> coppro: thnx, i was looking from a tottaly wrong place
[19:29] <voicu_> trappist: also, i didn't see any problems when in windows so that should rule out a hardware issue
[19:29] <psaiken> hey
[19:29] <DeviantPeer> stdin: it doesn't work...
[19:29] <trappist> voicu_: well, sometimes a reboot actually does help :)  if you have a wireless router, you might try firing up your wireless card to see if it has the same problem.  if it does, I dunno what to tell you, but if it doesn't, you might try to dig up another ethernet card and see how it behaves.
[19:30] <stdin> DeviantPeer: how are you mounting it?
[19:30] <trappist> voicu_: that is to say I think the two most likely candidates are the card itself or the realtek drivers
[19:30] <trappist> voicu_: oh, also run dmesg to see if there's any interesting info in there
[19:30] <DeviantPeer> stdin: "sudo mount -o ro -o gid=mtavares /dev/dvd -o umask=000  cdrom0/"
[19:31] <DeviantPeer> stdin: cwd = /media
[19:31] <stdin> DeviantPeer: why not just "mount /media/cdrom0", you shouldn't need sudo to mount it
[19:31] <coppro> trappist: nope, doesn't work. Plasma does the same thing, which is that my panel goes dark, except the K menu was replaced by a device manager
[19:32] <coppro> currently, I have a script: compiz & sleep 5; killall plasma; plasma;
[19:32] <DeviantPeer> stdin: because I'm trying to pass parameter to the mount, so I think I need to be root.
[19:32] <voicu_> trappist: i rebooted a few times since it worked before (i reinstalled the system since then). in dmesg the only network related error is "r8169: eth0: no ipv6 routers present"
[19:32] <DeviantPeer> stdin: let me try without root
[19:32] <stdin> DeviantPeer: gid is wrong, it needs to be a number
[19:32] <DeviantPeer> stdin: "mount: only root can do that"
[19:33] <Roland123> kacpid is using a lot of cpu.. is it safe to kill it?
[19:33] <voicu_> trappist: how do i activate the wireless card? if it's adriver issue there is not much i can do, right?
[19:33] <DeviantPeer> stdin: ahhh.. could be that, yes.. let me try
[19:33] <stdin> DeviantPeer: something like "sudo mount -o ro,gid=$(id -g),umask=000 cdrom0"
[19:34] <DeviantPeer> stdin: trying.
[19:36] <DeviantPeer> stdin: does the same thing. the mount point gets 000
[19:36] <DeviantPeer> darn
[19:36] <stdin> DeviantPeer: what about changing the umask to "0111" ?
[19:37] <krgr> hii room
[19:37] <DeviantPeer> stdin: the same...
[19:37] <stdin> odd
[19:37] <krgr> i wanted some help about a tv card/usb dongle
[19:37] <DeviantPeer> this is too strange!
[19:37] <voicu> trappist: how do i disable ipv6? on the ubuntu forums it was suggested that the card/driver might not handle ipv6 very well
[19:38] <prometheus77> HOW DO I MANUALLY CONFIGURE MY KEYBOARD
[19:38] <Roland123> prometheus77: kill the caps lock
[19:38] <prometheus77> ok
[19:41] <coppro> trappist: nope, still nothing works :(
[19:41] <coppro> plasma is still messed up
[19:41] <voicu> how do i change the driver a network interface works? i have a realtek card and i want to change from r8169 to r8101
[19:46] <coppro> trappist: got it working; once I installed fusion-icon I just had to set Compiz to be my window manager in the systemsettings
[19:48] <voicu> can someone please tell me how i can change the network driver that my card uses?
[19:56] <Lupus-SLE> Hello people.
[19:57] <Lupus-SLE> Is anybody else but me having issues with the Hardware Manager?
[19:59] <voicu> what issues?
[19:59] <Lupus-SLE> voicu: Well for me... it doesn't work... and I can't be too much more specific because that's the extent. When I press 'activate' nothing happens
[20:00] <Lupus-SLE> Doesn't produce any sort of output either
[20:00] <kubuntu_> anyone can guide me how to turn compiz on latest kubuntu
[20:00] <Lupus-SLE> kubuntu_: Kicker > System Settings > Desktop > Effects
[20:01] <kubuntu_> and what do i do there
[20:01] <Lupus-SLE> There's a button that says "enable desktop effects" or something like that
[20:02] <Lupus-SLE> You'll see it, trust me
[20:02] <kubuntu_> it is enabled
[20:02] <Lupus-SLE> Then enjoy your compiz
[20:02] <Lupus-SLE> You can choose what effects you want in the next tab.
[20:04] <kubuntu_> but cube doesnt work
[20:04] <Lupus-SLE> I think that's an option on the next page
[20:04] <Lupus-SLE> Go search for it
[20:05] <Lupus-SLE> voicu: I'm trying it with the GTK one
[20:05] <brad_> Hi I have a quick question that will hopefully be easy to fix
[20:05] <Lupus-SLE> voicu: Last time that one gave me some useful feedback but this time I think... I think it works...
[20:05] <brad_> I'm on Kubuntu 8.10 and for some reason my monitors power saving function keeps messing up
[20:05] <Lupus-SLE> brad_: You never need to ask to ask in this sort of channel, we're here to help you, ask and you will be helped.
[20:06] <brad_> that is to say the screen won't turn off sometimes
[20:06] <Lupus-SLE> brad_: Is this a new problem?
[20:06] <kubuntu_> cany find anything
[20:06] <brad_> so then I have to go to the powersettings (on the display menu) and set it again, and then it works
[20:06] <kubuntu_> cant find anything
[20:06] <Lupus-SLE> kubuntu_: Hmm...
[20:06] <brad_> and I mean it still shows it as being set, but sometimes the monitor doesn't turn off all day/night etc
[20:06] <Lupus-SLE> kubuntu_: Not to patronise you, but have you googled for this?
[20:06] <brad_> I'm wondering if something is waking it?
[20:06] <kubuntu_> yes
[20:07] <brad_> ummmm, I would say under two weeks but I dont know just when it started
[20:07] <Lupus-SLE> There may be additional packages you need to install, unfortunatly I'm not an expert on compiz
[20:07] <kubuntu_> cant fin anything that shows me hoe to enable
[20:07] <brad_> I was wondering if dragon media player was keeping it awake after videos ended, but that program has no preferences I can find, and that isnt the only time it happens
[20:07] <kubuntu_> i heavent been using linux for some years
[20:07] <brad_> because it may be that when I see it, something has just woken it up and I dont know what is waking it up, but I dont know where those settings are either
[20:08] <Lupus-SLE> brad_: The Dragon player disapointed me, it has such an awesome icon but the player itself is very... basic, shall we say
[20:08] <brad_> yeah I can go back to kaffeine and see if that helps but I really dont think thats the problem cause thats not the only time it happens
[20:08] <brad_> unless thats one of many things keeping it awake
[20:08] <Lupus-SLE> brad_: Do you live near a herd of elephants?
[20:09] <Lupus-SLE> Or have a very sensitive mouse?
[20:09] <brad_> lol neither
[20:09] <Lupus-SLE> Hmm...
[20:09] <brad_> Iv'e had the same mouse for a very long time
[20:09] <brad_> I mean sometimes if I'm at the desk I accidentally wake it up but I know that i've done it
[20:09] <brad_> Ir eally think its not turning off at all
[20:09] <brad_> then I have to go to the display settings, and set it again
[20:09] <Lupus-SLE> brad_: Occams razor and all... but could you not just turn the screen off when you leave your PC? :P
[20:09] <kubuntu_> well i guess i will be waiting with my compiz
[20:09] <kubuntu_> no luck
[20:10] <brad_> actually, I have a monitor I've had foreverI got at a surplus sale that the power button doesnt work on
[20:10] <brad_> so I actually can't
[20:10] <brad_> beyond which, I regularly go to sleep with a show or whatever playing on the computer
[20:10] <Lupus-SLE> kubuntu_: I'll have a fetch for you, give me a minute
[20:10] <kubuntu_> thx
[20:11] <BluesKaj> there are severalm timed apps that don't start properly such as the screensdaver. It has to be reset every session , bloody PITA
[20:11] <brad_> I previously had it set to suspend at a half hour and had the other power saving settings off, then I turned all three on 10 minutes apart in order (hoping at least one would catch it) and that didnt help either
[20:12] <avare> How to get different wallpapers on each workspace in kubuntu 8.10
[20:13] <Lupus-SLE> avare: Is that even possible?
[20:15] <avare> http://anuragbansal.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/how-to-get-different-wallpapers-on-each-workspace-in-ubuntu/   Lopus-SLE
[20:15] <Lupus-SLE> kubuntu_: http://www.howtoforge.com/enabling-compiz-fusion-on-ubuntu-8.10-nvidia
[20:15] <kubuntu_> yes
[20:15] <Lupus-SLE> kubuntu_: That's for Ubuntu, but it'll be extremely similar and the packages you need will be almost identical
[20:16] <Lupus-SLE> So that should get you your cube
[20:16] <kubuntu_> thx
[20:16] <kubuntu_> il try now
[20:16] <Lupus-SLE> brad_: Hmm...
[20:17] <Lupus-SLE> brad_: Might just be a broken bit of KDE 4.1
[20:17] <Lupus-SLE> brad_: How long have you been on Intrepid?
[20:17] <brad_> ummm since beta 1
[20:17] <Lupus-SLE> brad_: Might be worth reverting to Hardy
[20:18] <kubuntu_> wll mine is set to 177 version and its recomended?
[20:19] <qwark> hi
[20:19] <Lupus-SLE> brad_: I'm not particularly brilliant with the power management of Linux, might be worth asking in ##Linux as that's, IMO, a more techical channel, and it sounds like you have a technical problem
[20:21] <brad_> hmmm well is there a command to check the integrity of the install or something? or does it do that automatically when you apt-get update?
[20:30] <kubuntu_> now i cannot find preferences /appeareance
[20:30] <kubuntu_> whic should be under system
[20:30] <kubuntu_> ??
[20:32] <MuzikJunkie> can anyone help me get the resolution to 1280 X 1024 on Kubuntu 8.10 with intel onboard video?  Monitor is Samsung Syncmaster 931
[20:33] <BluesKaj> which intel?
[20:35] <MuzikJunkie> Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[20:38] <kubuntu_> how can i turn my desktop effects to custom?
[20:38] <kubuntu_> anyone?
[20:39] <Tm_T> kubuntu_: what you mean by "custom" ?
[20:41] <kubuntu_> weel to get compiz to work i need to set my desktop to custom effects as in ubuntu
[20:41] <Tm_T> kubuntu_: ah, see your "user default applications"
[20:42] <kubuntu_> and that would be where?
[20:42] <Tm_T> somewhere at second line in System Settings
[20:43] <kubuntu_> not in kubuntu?
[20:43] <kubuntu_> i cant finde it
[20:43] <Tm_T> that is in kubuntu, if we are talking about KDE4 here
[20:43] <kubuntu_> yes
[20:44] <kubuntu_> i found it but i cannot change anything there
[20:44] <kubuntu_> that has to do with effects
[20:45] <Tm_T> kubuntu_: something related to window managing?
[20:45] <newbieman> hi all
[20:46] <kubuntu_> yes
[20:47] <kubuntu_> if you look here that is what i am trying to do
[20:47] <newbieman> can any one help with tomcat
[20:47] <kubuntu_> http://www.howtoforge.com/enabling-compiz-fusion-on-ubuntu-8.10-nvidia-p2
[20:47] <Tm_T> sorry, cannot look there
[20:47] <kubuntu_> but just on kubuntu
[20:47] <kubuntu_> ?
[20:47] <Tm_T> kubuntu_: but KDE and GNOME are quite different
[20:47] <kubuntu_> i know
[20:48] <kubuntu_> that is the problem
[20:48] <Tm_T> !compiz
[20:48] <tetrach> beginner here and I am having resolution issues
[20:51] <kubuntu_> there are no desktop effects under system
[20:52] <Tm_T> kubuntu_: I know, that part of the factoid is outdated
[20:52] <tetrach> can anyone give me a hand I accidentally changed my settings and now I cant see my log in screen or desktop
[20:52] <ubuntu_> Hi.
[20:52] <ubuntu_> I just set up a dualboot b/t Kubuntu 8.10 and Windows Server 2003, and I get a GRUB Error 18.
[20:53] <ubuntu_> How would I fix this? I'm on the Kubuntu live cd now.
[20:53] <kubuntu_> what do i do?
[20:53] <Tm_T> kubuntu_: uno momento
[20:53] <kubuntu_> looks like you will becom my best friend
[20:53] <kubuntu_> ;)
[20:54] <Lucida> alguien que hable español,que se manifieste coño
[20:55] <ubuntu_> Anyone?
[20:56] <Tm_T> kubuntu_: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/kde4-compiz.png
[20:56] <Tm_T> !grub | ubuntu_
[20:56] <Tm_T> kubuntu_: see that kind of option there?
[20:57] <ubuntu_> Tm_T, that's no help.
[20:57] <ubuntu_> I need to create a boot partition and move my /boot files to the new /boot partition.
[20:57] <ubuntu_> Not sure how to.
[20:57] <ubuntu_> the /boot needs to be at the front.
[20:57] <Tm_T> ubuntu_: hmm, you have read those thru?
[20:57] <ubuntu_> Tm_T, no, because I know that's not it.
[20:57] <Tm_T> ok then
[20:57] <ubuntu_> i know what it's gonna say, and that wouldn't fix my problem.
[21:08] <dr_willis> Why does boot need to be at the front? thats not been a limit for ages.. except on old machines..
[21:08] <ubuntu_> *cough*
[21:08] <dr_willis> it will pay to read through the grub manual. what you want to do is not too hard to do.
[21:08] <ubuntu_> well, i was more interested in how i was going to move my /boot files
[21:09] <ubuntu_> but i dont care, i just repartitioned my hd. >.> no harm done, nothing good on windows anyway.
[21:09] <dr_willis> make a new partition at the start of the drive. copy them over. mount it as /boot
[21:09] <ubuntu_> im good.
[21:09] <dr_willis> if  you have the '1024' cylinder limit problem.. then you may want to use fdisk to make the partition, to be sure its under the 1024 cylinder.
[21:09] <ubuntu_> back to the football game
[21:11] <ubuntu_> YES!
[21:11] <ubuntu_> INTERCEPTION
[21:11] <ubuntu_> GOD YES
[21:11] <ubuntu_> we win.
[21:12] <ubuntu_> that was an excellent game, i really didn't think the panthers would win. (H)
[21:23] <loganWHD> is there a tool that i can use to look inside of a HUGE bz2 archive and just extract or view one or two files?
[21:23] <Tm_T> loganWHD: Ark ?
[21:23] <loganWHD> yah i am trying ark
[21:23] <loganWHD> doesnt seem to like it too much
[21:23] <loganWHD> thinks and thinks and thinks forever
[21:23] <dr_willis> loganWHD,  mc can do that
[21:24] <loganWHD> mc?
[21:24] <dr_willis> thats the name.. 'mc
[21:24] <dr_willis> thats the name.. 'mc'
[21:24] <loganWHD> beauty
[21:24] <dr_willis> !info mc
[21:24] <loganWHD> thanks
[21:24] <dr_willis> now the issue may be the Hugeness of the archive. :)
[21:33] <epimeth> is there no more "network directories"
[21:33] <epimeth> ?
[21:35] <epimeth> oh... found it, I think....
[21:36] <epimeth> yea... heh... remote:/  :-)
[21:45] <epimeth> okay, so how do I list network folders in the "open folder" dialog?
[21:49] <epimeth> anybody home?
[21:55] <kevman> I read in a bug that bluetooth support is completely busted?
[21:56] <kevman> I can't find any other references to this fact.
[21:57] <epimeth> kevman: dunno...
[21:59] <kevman>  Oh, this IS freenode. You should have some indication of that in konversation.
[21:59] <serdna> nice
[21:59] <serdna> :D
[21:59] <serdna> guys, how do i switch workspaces?
[22:00] <kevman> There's a little 1 2 in the bottom right hand corner of the screen
[22:00] <serdna> no shortcuts?
[22:01] <kevman> I'd say check the documentation, but I don't think any exists
[22:01] <kevman> At least not about Bluetooth or Compiz
[22:03] <eamon> hello trying to get squid to work  keeps saying  FATAL: Could not determine fully qualified hostname. Please set 'visible_hostn
[22:04] <kevman> SO.... No bluetooth support, period?
[22:04] <Dragnslcr> kevman- I believe that's the case, unfortunately
[22:05] <kevman> And where is this said?
[22:05] <Dragnslcr> Though my keyboard and mouse were kinda flaky anyway, so I'm happier with a regular RF set
[22:05] <Dragnslcr> Think I saw it in the release notes
[22:06] <kevman> Yeah, but nowhere else
[22:06] <loganWHD> hola
[22:06] <Baz> Hello
[22:06] <loganWHD> does anyone know how to make Konversation group the nicks into OPS and non ops?
[22:07] <Baz> i have a problem trying to install ur latest 8.1 64bit os off the disk
[22:07] <Dragnslcr> kevman- http://www.kubuntu.org/news/8.10-release at the bottom, in the "Known Issues" section
[22:07] <kevman> Oooook, how about compiz?
[22:07] <Baz> i get the error Aperture 4gb, Ignoring and the system doesn't appear to do anything can anyone shed any light
[22:08] <eamon> anyone here know how to install squid
[22:08] <kevman> How does one make URLS open in konqueror?
[22:08] <kevman> from konverstaion
[22:08] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install squid ?
[22:08] <dr_willis> !info squid
[22:09] <Dragnslcr> loganWHD- I believe it's Configure -> Behavior -> Nickname List
[22:09] <Dragnslcr> kevman- is Konqueror your default browser?
[22:09] <loganWHD> hrmmm i dont even see a configure menu
[22:09] <kevman> I'm using the live environment. I'd say yes
[22:09] <Dragnslcr> loganWHD- under the Settings menu
[22:09] <Dragnslcr> kevman- what do they open in instead?
[22:10] <kevman> It asks me what I want to do with it
[22:10] <Dragnslcr> Hm, I dunno then
[22:10] <loganWHD> si
[22:10] <loganWHD> you are correct
[22:10] <eamon> when i install and restart squid it says  FATAL: Could not determine fully qualified hostname. Please set 'visible_hostn
[22:10] <loganWHD> grassy-ass
[22:12] <Baz> Can anyone help, i boot from the 8.1 64bit cd i just downloaded, boots fine select install kubuntu and it says Aperture 4gb, Ignoring then nothing happens ive left hte system for 30 mins and it just hasn't done anything can anybody help as i really do not wish to stay on winblows any longer! lol
[22:13] <dr_willis> I see that message on my systems all the time.. but they boot fine..   So its not related to the problem i imagine.. However that IS like the very first diag. message i see.. so the machine seems to be hanging very very very early in the bootup process..
[22:13] <mrksbrd> ok who is good with figuring out cups?.....i'm @ my wits end
[22:14] <dr_willis> you could try one of the safe modes, or try the 'noapic'  or other options  baz
[22:14] <jussi01> mrksbrd: just tell your prob and find out...
[22:14] <Baz> what does noapic do? dr_willis
[22:14] <mrksbrd> basically loads printer tried several configs & still won't print
[22:14] <dr_willis> disables APIC :)
[22:15] <dr_willis> apic, and apci are often the 2 problem areas with laptops. sadly
[22:15] <Baz> but mine is a custom built pc
[22:15] <kevman> I guess I'll try this kubuntu. I have a feeling I'll be running back to Gentoo with my tail between my legs, though.
[22:16] <Baz> not a laptop
[22:16] <Baz> shal i try it anyways?
[22:16] <dr_willis> could be an issue with it also..
[22:16] <goldmetal> anyone use pidgin?  it ask me to accept certificate. http://nexus.passport.com/ says page unavailable
[22:16]  * dr_willis normally runs FROM gentoo
[22:16] <Baz> ok so how do i tell it to do this
[22:17] <jussi01> mrksbrd: please let us know more, which printer, how is it connected etc?
[22:17]  * Baz usualy uses winblows but is so frustrated with constant reformats!
[22:17] <mrksbrd> jussi01: epson rx680 via usb
[22:18] <Baz> dr_willis how do i tell it to noapic before i press enter on install kubuntu
[22:19] <mrksbrd> i know the printer does work w/kubuntu, has worked in past, just loaded linux on this desktop
[22:20] <jussi01> mrksbrd: are you setting it up with the kubuntu dialogue or web interface?'
[22:21] <Baz> that didn't work
[22:21] <Baz> Anyone else have any idea's?
[22:21] <mrksbrd> tried both
[22:21] <jussi01> mrksbrd: you ahve another pc using it? tried duplicating the settings from there?
[22:22] <mrksbrd> already did....same thing.....thats what I can't figure out
[22:24] <jussi01> mrksbrd: you sure its the same ppd file?
[22:25] <mrksbrd> i tried letting it go default....and ppd file for the 680....says processing, but never prints
[22:27] <mrksbrd> if i totally remove & re-install cups would that be a possibility that something went wrong with it on initial install?
[22:27] <Maligne> yes.
[22:27] <jussi01> mrksbrd: try copying the ppd from the other machine -  then specifying it - the web interface lets you do that
[22:28] <mrksbrd> jussi01: lol.... already did try that
[22:29] <jussi01> mrksbrd: Id reburn the disk you installed with, after checking the MD5 on the iso, and reinstall. also, is it an old PC?
[22:29] <labaman> hi all! Tell me please russian chenel's name
[22:29] <jussi01> !ru
[22:30] <mrksbrd> p4...few years old
[22:30] <mrksbrd> i'll keep plugging away @ it....ty anyways
[22:30] <labaman> ok, thx
[22:31] <buckethead> How odd.. I'm trying to upgrade to intrepid but it wont launch the ditribution upgrade tool.
[22:31] <buckethead> How would I launch it directly?
[22:32] <genii> buckethead: The dist upgrade will only show if there is a long-term support release upgrade available
[22:33] <buckethead> I did a kdesudo "adept_manager --dist-upgrade"
[22:34] <buckethead> went through the steps, it said it was closing adept and going through upgrade and then nothing happened?
[22:37] <genii> buckethead: I think you wanted --dist-upgrade-devel
[22:37] <buckethead> can't load DistUpgradeViewKDE (No module named PyQt4.QtCore)
[22:39] <buckethead> Nope, Same errors with -devel.
[22:47] <jussi01> Has anyone managed to get the plugins in gwenview installed/working? which actual package do I need? (intrepid)
[22:48] <jussi01> currently it just says "no plugin"
[22:53] <Baz> Can somebody pls give me the MD5 number for the Kubuntu8.10-alternate-amd64.iso
[22:53] <octavio> hola
[22:54] <Baz> as the disks check says its faulty yet imgburn tested it and siad it was fine
[22:54] <Baz> so i need the MD5 number to be 100%
[22:54] <jussi01> Baz: its on the sameplace where you downlooaded theimage from..
[22:55] <jussi01> hi octavio
[22:58] <Baz> ok now im totaly confused
[22:58] <Baz> The MD5 checksum is 100% the same
[22:58] <Baz> yet the cd says its corrupted yet it burned succsefully
[23:01] <phil0u> hello
[23:02] <phil0u> has someone got around the depency issue with kdelibs5 when trying to install Amarok 2 RC1 in 8.10 Intrepid ? Thanks,
[23:03] <mahdi> hi
[23:03] <yamen-css> slt
[23:03] <UbuntuUser> may i ask wats the fdifference btween ubuntu and kubuntu?
[23:03] <buckethead> genii: My problem was because python-qt4 wasn't installed.
[23:03] <helge__> I am looking for a virtual cd/dvd rom... Does it ecost
[23:03] <helge__> it exist
[23:04] <helge__> ?
[23:04] <UbuntuUser>  how can i enable my nvidia card and still use my external monitor? my laptop screen is broken
[23:09] <yamen-css> ????????
[23:10] <mahdi> #linuxac
[23:10] <buckethead> genii: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=176591 <- Do I make sense?
[23:11] <genii> buckethead: Yup, short and sweet
[23:20] <Lupus-SLE> !bug
[23:20] <e-head> hey
[23:21] <szrhawaii> does anyone have a good recommendation for a k menu application besides kbfx
[23:21] <e-head> I'm trying to install Kubuntu and having all sorts of problems.
[23:21] <e-head> I think my DVD ROM drive was bad at first.
[23:21] <e-head> I'm getting these "buffer I/O error on device sr0" messages now.
[23:22] <e-head> Anyone know what device sr0 is?
[23:22] <astromme> it could be your cdrom drive
[23:22] <astromme>  /dvd
[23:22] <e-head> yeah. That's weird, cause this is the second one i've tried.
[23:22] <astromme> It probably means a bad burn, bad drive, or that your drive can't handle the media correctly
[23:23] <e-head> I'm starting to think maybe it's the controller, not the drive.
[23:23] <astromme> Where in the install process do you get the errors?
[23:23] <szrhawaii> i thought it was when it cant read anything
[23:23] <e-head> X-windows never even starts up.
[23:23] <e-head> I did a "check CD" a second ago and it checked out fine.
[23:23] <e-head> Very weird.
[23:24] <szrhawaii> what are you trying to do
[23:24] <e-head> This is the second DVD drive I've tried too. I'm really startin to think maybe the controller is flaky.
[23:24] <e-head> Install Kubuntu.
[23:24] <e-head> I should probably check the connection.
[23:24] <szrhawaii> from a live cd
[23:24] <e-head> I'm just doing an install.
[23:24] <astromme> Out of curiosity does your .iso boot in a virtual machine?
[23:24] <yamen-css> e-head: very good
[23:25] <astromme> szrhawaii: kmenu... like lancelot/kicker?
[23:25] <e-head> last time it looked like everything went okay but then X-windows seemed to bomb out.
[23:25] <szrhawaii> yeah but i neeed it for 3.5 do you know if that works for 3.5
[23:25] <e-head> So, I thought it was just my graphics card. I tried rebooting and doing a "safe graphics mode" install, but then I started getting these I/O errors.
[23:25] <e-head> Man, I'm just not having any luck.
[23:25] <e-head> ;)
[23:26] <astromme> szrhawaii: neither of those do. There is a kicker from opensuse maybe (they first used it in 3.5) but the current iteration is kde4
[23:26] <turcko> Hi.... a name for graphical aplication to manage system services???
[23:26] <astromme> e-head: sorry to hear that =/. Are you using flaky cds?
[23:26] <szrhawaii> do you know one that does astromme
[23:27] <e-head> No. It checked out fine (md5sum).
[23:27] <e-head> This is the second one I burned.
[23:27] <szrhawaii> e-head dit speedd you burn the .iso at the righ
[23:27] <astromme> szrhawii: what distro are you using? There was a gentoo ebuild iirc but that was years ago
[23:27] <szrhawaii> did you burn the iso at the right speed
[23:27] <Fieldy> hello, has anyone installed kde4 and found when they log in, you get a black screen, the mouse pointer, and nothing else? this kde4 install has worked fine for a long time until today.
[23:27] <e-head> Kubuntu said it was all good (I did the "check CD option" after booting)
[23:27] <szrhawaii> i have hardy
[23:28] <Lupus-SLE> This may be a rediculous question... but for some reason kmix and knetworkmanager both appear on startup on intrepid... I don't want them to start... how do I stop this?
[23:28] <szrhawaii> e-head did you do a 50/50 partition or full
[23:28] <astromme> e-head: Have you tried just installing without the check cd? I found that if I had flaky drives/controllers, they would often fail if I first did a cd media check but work (probably because they were not being used as much or for as long) if I just went straight to the install
[23:28] <e-head> I'm going to try that now.
[23:29] <astromme> Lupus-SLE: You should be able to disable those in System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager -> Apps to be excluded from sessions
[23:29] <e-head> Hey, do you guys know if it's possible to bypass the CD drive altogether?   I have an old debian system on here already. I have 2 HD's in the computer, and I was going to set up a dual boot system.
[23:30] <astromme> e-head: Yes, it's possible to put the installer image in your /boot and boot to it
[23:30] <e-head> Can I just d/l all the files somehow and do a chroot and start the installatin?
[23:30] <astromme> I don't remember offhand where the docs are for that
[23:30] <astromme> e-head: it requires that you have a working wired net though
[23:30] <e-head> Ahh... add an entry into my grub menu.1st or something?
[23:30] <e-head> Yeah, I do.
[23:30] <e-head> I'll see if I can find something on it.
[23:30] <szrhawaii> hey atromme do you also know what the lib files for the kdesktop drawing feature for the background setting
[23:31] <epimeth> How do I list network folders in the "open folder" dialog?
[23:31] <epimeth> kde4.2
[23:31] <epimeth> erm
[23:31] <epimeth> .1
[23:31] <epimeth> heh
[23:31] <epimeth> wishful thinking
[23:31] <astromme> szrhawaii: Sorry, no idea
[23:31] <astromme> epimeth: network:// ?
[23:31] <szrhawaii> ok thanks anyways
[23:31] <VistaUser> szrhawaii silly question u from hawaii?
[23:32] <szrhawaii> yeah
[23:32] <astromme> epimeth: Or... smb:// or smb-browser:// ? Something like that...
[23:32] <VistaUser> me to :)
[23:32] <szrhawaii> cool
[23:32] <epimeth> I want fish:// actually
[23:32] <szrhawaii> from oahu, aiea
[23:32] <epimeth> but its not working
[23:32] <VistaUser> Kapolei her
[23:32] <VistaUser> here*
[23:32] <szrhawaii> cool i lived in makakilo before
[23:32] <VistaUser> cool
[23:32] <astromme> epimeth: Try putting the user in it. I.E. fish://astromme@network-server/path/to/folder
[23:33] <szrhawaii> so can anyone tell me if its worth upgrading to kde 4 yet
[23:33] <epimeth> astromme, but I want a link to it on the left bar of the "open folder" dialog, like there was in kde3....
[23:33] <VistaUser> people say its to unstable
[23:33] <VistaUser> if i were u stick with 4.1.3
[23:33] <szrhawaii> yeah ive been hearing a lot of that
[23:33] <estres> szrhawaii
[23:34] <dozer> hi - I've just upgraded to kubuntu 8.10 and am having a couple of teathing problems
[23:34] <astromme> Yeah, what you can do is you can drag the any folder to that bar. Or, drag a folder, then right click it on the bar, hit properties and change the location
[23:34] <szrhawaii> whats up estres
[23:34] <estres> if you want  to work in something nice
[23:34] <estres> this enviroment is reallylooking nice
[23:34] <estres> but is not
[23:34] <VistaUser> which KDE4???
[23:34] <astromme> dozer: Alright, anything we can help with?
[23:34] <estres> working good at all
[23:34] <szrhawaii> i got 3.5 with some 4.1 add ins but not the full upgrade
[23:34] <e-head> hey, I'm making some progree here.
[23:34] <estres> if make sometunning to your deskto
[23:35] <estres> desktop
[23:35] <szrhawaii> i am slowly adding some features here and there
[23:35] <e-head> while I was chatting it rebooted and it looks like X is starting up.
[23:35] <estres> you can brokit
[23:35] <estres> broke it
[23:35] <szrhawaii> who me estres
[23:35] <e-head> I take it it automatically went into the demo/live CD thing.  Looks good. Looks sharp!  This is promising.  ;)
[23:35] <epimeth> "malformed URL" :-(
[23:35] <astromme> e-head: Alright, if that works, great
[23:35] <epimeth> I'm thinking that the dialog might not be hooked into kio?
[23:36] <estres> and will havetodelete /home/user/.kde to get back in control of it
[23:36] <estres> losing allyou changes
[23:36] <dozer> astromme - the two most anoying things are a) no irc in kopete, and b) my TV (connected through a VGA cable to my laptop) flashes off every 20 sec or so for a moment
[23:36] <e-head> what's the login/password?
[23:36] <astromme> epimeth: give me the url you're trying
[23:36] <epimeth> remote://
[23:36] <e-head> I wasn't paying attention.
[23:36] <epimeth> :-)
[23:36] <epimeth> I dragged it in, like you said :-)
[23:36] <astromme> e-head: ubuntu and no password?
[23:36] <epimeth> I tried that myself, too
[23:36] <e-head> thanks
[23:36] <szrhawaii> yeah but i only download the extra features not the main base files
[23:36] <epimeth> remote:/ actually... remote:// just doesn't show anything
[23:36] <VistaUser> estress u on KDE4?
[23:36] <estres> yes
[23:37] <astromme> dozer: For the second, go to System Settings -> Advanced -> Service Manager  and uncheck "Detecting Montior (XRANDR) Changes"
[23:37] <estres> I am ok KDE 4.1
[23:37] <szrhawaii> i accidentally messed up and did that before though estres
[23:37] <VistaUser> is it worth the upgrade?
[23:37] <szrhawaii> but i learned which ones work and which ones dont
[23:37] <astromme> epimeth: is this a kde dialog or a gnome one?
[23:37] <e-head> it kicks me right back to the login menu.  it looks like it wants to start up or something, then kicks me right back.
[23:37] <epimeth> I'm pretty much used to kde4.1, myself.  the only thing I really miss right now is the quicklaunch, but thats coming soon so it doesn't bother me.   I also had a problem with flickering, but the xrandr solution worked for me
[23:37] <Lupus-SLE> astromme: Is that is?
[23:37] <epimeth> astromme: kde
[23:38] <szrhawaii> i like 3.5 i got mine running smoothly finally again
[23:38] <estres> well Itoldyou guys is slower than pastversions but it looks nice
[23:38] <astromme> Lupus-SLE: What?
[23:38] <dozer> astromme: done - waiting to see if that's fixed it...
[23:38] <e-head> damn.  I'm getting an "unable to read fragment cache block" and "page, block" now.  Geez!  It's just not my night.  ;)
[23:38] <astromme> dozer: you may have to restart x
[23:38] <dozer> yuo, i think so
[23:38] <dozer> back in a sec
[23:39] <astromme> epimeth: do you want a specific folder or just the network in general?
[23:39] <estres> any one knows theport of the other chat rooms in spanish?
[23:39] <VistaUser> can u get to KDE 4 by commands in terminal?
[23:39] <astromme> e-head: I might have some links for you. Give me a moment
[23:39] <estres> like #ubuntu-es?
[23:39] <astromme> VistaUser: I dont' understand
[23:39] <epimeth> astromme: the entire network, yes.  I want to add it to the left side of the "open" dialog
[23:39] <estres> or like kubuntu-es
[23:40] <estres> #kubuntu-es
[23:40] <szrhawaii> it might be
[23:40] <epimeth> astromme: although in this specific case, I want to add a top level item to quanta, my home directory at work
[23:40] <astromme> And it's not there already? I have a "Network" location on the left of my open dialogues
[23:40] <VistaUser> ist KDE an desktop enviroment? how do i get to it?
[23:40] <astromme> VistaUser: It's an option when you login. "Session Type" or something like that
[23:40] <VistaUser> ok ty
[23:41] <szrhawaii> theres a key stroke for it to
[23:41] <szrhawaii> just forgot what it was
[23:41] <estres> #ubuntu-es
[23:41] <astromme> epimeth: Oh, are you using kde4 or kde3?
[23:41] <VistaUser> ok
[23:42] <epimeth> 4.2
[23:42] <loganWHD> so what u guys using to print to pdf in 8.10
[23:42] <epimeth> garr
[23:42] <epimeth> 4.1
[23:42] <loganWHD> i have cups installed but the blame thing doesnt put the files anywhere i can find
[23:42] <e-head> I'm playing hard ball with it now
[23:43] <astromme> estres: Hmm... I can't find it atm. Something along the lines of "Ubuntu network install from grub"
[23:45] <estres> I just installed 8.10 and the KDE 4.1 cameupwith it
[23:45] <epimeth> estres: yes, it did :-)
[23:46] <astromme> loganWHD: You can just do it from the standard print dialog
[23:46] <VistaUser> how do u upgrade 4.1 to 4.2?
[23:46] <astromme> loganWHD: cups might put it to ~/PDF
[23:46] <loganWHD> hrmm, i dont think so astromme unless i am missing it
[23:47] <loganWHD> yah i created a PDF dir but nothing goes there
[23:47] <estres> I do not recomend to install beta versions
[23:47] <astromme> If you're in a gnome app (i.e. firefox) it won't have the kde pdf printer
[23:47] <epimeth> astromme: you given up on me? P:-)
[23:47] <rrodrigues> hi
[23:47] <rrodrigues> hi pt
[23:47] <astromme> epimeth: Still searching, had to use the restroom
[23:47] <loganWHD> no just standard files  want to print
[23:48] <VistaUser> were i get KDE beta 4.2 or w/e
[23:48] <rrodrigues> asterisk anyone using in kubuntu?
[23:48] <epimeth> VistaUser: the packages aren't in the repository yet... its will be available within the month.  However, you can install the nightlies using neon, but I wouldn't suggest it just yet
[23:48] <VistaUser> ok ty
[23:48] <astromme> loganWHD: What application?
[23:49] <loganWHD> like openoffice
[23:49] <szrhawaii> like kpdf
[23:50] <szrhawaii> #kbfx
[23:50] <astromme> loganWHD: openoffice is also gtk-based. (i.e. not using kde print system)
[23:50] <e-head> Hey, do you guys know of a program I can use on Windows to check the md5sum text file in the root of the CD?
[23:50] <astromme> loganWHD: Sorry =/. It's not in the cups realm and I don't know much about cups pdf printing. Mine (in the old days) went to ~/PDF
[23:51] <loganWHD> ok
[23:51] <loganWHD> thnaks
[23:51] <Dillizar> hi
[23:51] <dr_willis> e-head,  there are md5sum tools for windows.. check   the various windows download sites/google.. i dont rember the names of any.. one added a 'check md5sum contest menu item'
[23:51] <Dillizar> does anybody use Opera??
[23:51] <szrhawaii> i thought thats where they always go unless they specify differently astromme
[23:52] <VistaUser> is there another web browser faster than firefox?
[23:52] <epimeth> VistaUser: if you do want it anyway, http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?action=printpage;topic=3099334.0
[23:52] <epimeth> VistaUser: yea, chrome... but its not available for mac and linux yet, tho you could probably install it with wine
[23:52] <szrhawaii> konqueror works fine for kde
[23:52] <epimeth> I think firefox is faster than konqui
[23:52] <Dillizar> epimeth, nope cant with wine :P
[23:53] <epimeth> awww
[23:53] <szrhawaii> i like both
[23:53] <epimeth> :-(
[23:53] <epimeth> pooh
[23:53] <VistaUser> i want chrome so badly
[23:53] <epimeth> szrhawaii: its a personal choice :-)
[23:53] <szrhawaii> i use firefox mostly and it is pretty quick
[23:53] <coppro> firefox is fine
[23:53] <Dillizar> VistaUser, they say safari is the fastest
[23:53] <coppro> I can't wait for the new JS engine
[23:53] <epimeth> VistaUser: yea, I'm waiting very impatient
[23:53] <dr_willis> I dont see much use for chrome. :)  i just make firefox fullscreen...
[23:53] <VistaUser> firefox is more faster because each tab is a new process
[23:53] <szrhawaii> i think it might just be your connection rather tan you browser
[23:54] <epimeth> dr_willis: its JS engine is muuuuch faster and doesn't leak
[23:54] <VistaUser> if a tab laggs or close the browser doesnt
[23:54] <astromme> epimeth: Aha! Check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux midway down the page at "Alternate CD Alternate Method"
[23:54] <dr_willis> I normally disable JS. :P
[23:54] <coppro> I do run noscript
[23:54] <coppro> but there's tons of pages that need it
[23:54] <dr_willis> I have so many FF extensions - i cant hardly surf without them
[23:54] <dr_willis> coppro,  yep.  sadly
[23:54] <astromme> Personally I use konqueror (x86-64) but that's because I don't need flash nor gmail (imap in kontact ftw) and so konq is nice and lean and fast
[23:55] <astromme> flash does work in konq... sometimes. Sometimes it's sketchy
[23:55]  * dr_willis wonders how one benchmarks these browsers to determine what ones are 'fast'
[23:55] <VistaUser> i cant wait till ubuntu or w/e is supported with all my favorite apps
[23:55] <epimeth> astromme: you sure that link was meant for me?
[23:55] <szrhawaii> yeah thats true astromme
[23:55] <astromme> VistaUser: FIrefox has a new *thread* for each tab. Chrome has a new *process* for each tab
[23:55] <VistaUser> oo ok
[23:56] <astromme> epimeth: Possibly not. There are two names with e here.. hmm
[23:56] <VistaUser> ooo limewire still works :)
[23:56] <szrhawaii> haha you still use that
[23:56] <VistaUser> yes y?
[23:56] <VistaUser> is there something better?
[23:56] <szrhawaii> thats probably why your comp is slow
[23:56]  * Secutor is away: Gone away for now.
[23:56] <astromme> e-head: Aha! Check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux midway down the page at "Alternate CD Alternate Method"
[23:56] <VistaUser> what do u use?
[23:56] <szrhawaii> i use torrents
[23:57] <astromme> epimith: Can you again describe to me where you are and what you want working that isn't with the network folders?
[23:57] <VistaUser> lol i cant do that for songs that i like on our radio station
[23:57] <szrhawaii> i do it for those all the time
[23:57] <szrhawaii> and all the movies and programs
[23:57] <VistaUser> what torrent download do u use?
[23:58] <szrhawaii> i use the k torrent but you go to websites to download them
[23:58] <VistaUser> ooo sounds like a hassel to find a song
[23:58] <szrhawaii> like mininova.org, piratebay.org
[23:58] <VistaUser> oo
[23:58] <VistaUser> i use torrents for movie basacilly
[23:59] <VistaUser> i heard frostwire is ok
[23:59] <szrhawaii> use it for music i use it and i always get the good stuff
[23:59] <szrhawaii> its the same as limewire
[23:59] <dr_willis> Frostwire and such are so... 2006
[23:59] <dr_willis> :)
[23:59] <VistaUser> i know but its blue :)
[23:59] <szrhawaii> haha
[23:59] <epimeth> astromme: do you have quanta installed?
[23:59] <szrhawaii> good difference