| fta | too bad, it's impossible to have ttf-mscorefonts-installer in build-deps :( | 14:03 |
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| Jazzva | asac, ping | 14:05 |
| fta | asac, did you hear from Hobbsee yet? | 14:07 |
| fta | Jazzva, hi | 14:08 |
| Jazzva | fta, hello... how are you? :) | 14:08 |
| fta | i want holidays !! | 14:08 |
| Jazzva | here they come ;).. I want them too, but tough chances for me... exams and projects :( | 14:09 |
| asac | Jazzva: pong | 15:30 |
| asac | fta_: nope ;) | 15:30 |
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| Jazzva | asac, I've been planning to update gnome-voice-control to 0.3 for quite a long time now. But it needs pocketsphinx and sphinxbase. It was packaged by David (one of the sphinx devs, I think) and pushed to REVU. I tried to help him to get advocates few times, but nothing. | 15:32 |
| Jazzva | So I was wondering if you could help me to get the packages to Debian. I reviewed both of them, and they looked fine to me... | 15:33 |
| fta | lol, bypassing revu using debian ;) | 15:34 |
| asac | thats the idea of revu ;) | 15:34 |
| asac | make it easier to get new packages into debian ;) | 15:34 |
| Jazzva | heh :) | 15:34 |
| asac | Jazzva: did you leave the comments in revu? | 15:34 |
| asac | where are the packages? | 15:34 |
| Jazzva | Yep... | 15:34 |
| Jazzva | well, it was few months ago, I'm not sure if they're still up | 15:35 |
| Jazzva | just to check | 15:35 |
| Jazzva | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=pocketsphinx | 15:35 |
| Jazzva | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=sphinxbase | 15:35 |
| Jazzva | RainCT also reviewed them... | 15:36 |
| Jazzva | maybe it would be good if we get them to debian. Then I would upgrade ubuntu package to 0.3, push it to debian, then sync it back to ubuntu... yay :) | 15:37 |
| asac | Jazzva: do we need them as separate packages? | 15:40 |
| asac | couldnt they just be included in gnome-voice-control? | 15:40 |
| Jazzva | asac: I guess they could, but isn't it considered bad practice to bundle libraries with the package? | 15:41 |
| asac | Jazzva: depends. if they are released in same tarball upstream its ok | 15:41 |
| asac | otherwise probably not | 15:41 |
| Jazzva | they're not | 15:42 |
| Jazzva | asac: gnome-voice-control is in separate tarball | 15:42 |
| asac | hmm | 15:42 |
| asac | Jazzva: ceck for ITP stuff in debian please | 15:42 |
| asac | otherwise open an ITP ... ask upstream guy what role he wants to have ... maybe use you as maintainer and him as uploader or vv | 15:43 |
| Jazzva | i think that he would be the maintainer for pocketsphinx and sphinxbase | 15:43 |
| asac | Jazzva: ask him if he would want to maintain that in debian | 15:45 |
| Jazzva | asac, there RFP, which should be ITP, debian bug 439185 | 15:45 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 439185 in wnpp "RFP: pocketsphinx -- Lightweight speech recognition engine" [Wishlist,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/439185 | 15:45 |
| Jazzva | asac, ok, I will.. I'll get back to you when I get the reply :). | 15:46 |
| Jazzva | and thanks :) | 15:46 |
| asac | welcome | 15:46 |
| fta | hmm, seems ctrl-tab is gone in b2.. | 15:53 |
| asac | good ... finally something is done against tabs ;) | 15:59 |
| fta | ? | 16:00 |
| asac | isnt that used for switching tabs? | 16:00 |
| fta | yes | 16:00 |
| fta | it was | 16:00 |
| asac | so when it doesnt exist anymore, it will train people to use less tabs | 16:00 |
| fta | now, the tab list button is back | 16:00 |
| fta | but when i single click it (to see the list), it just jumps to the 1st tab :( | 16:01 |
| fta | i have to click and hold | 16:01 |
| asac | hehe | 16:02 |
| asac | yeah the glorious bug | 16:02 |
| asac | i assume that the issue should start in nsEventStateManager::CheckForAndDispatchClick | 16:06 |
| asac | //If mouse is still over same element, clickcount will be > 1. | 16:06 |
| asac | http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/content/events/src/nsEventStateManager.cpp#2885 | 16:08 |
| fta | is that new ? | 16:10 |
| asac | no its not new | 16:14 |
| asac | but the issue exists in 3.0 too | 16:14 |
| asac | its a huge chunk of shit code | 16:15 |
| asac | there probably is a bug ;) | 16:15 |
| asac | current idea is that ShiftFocus* stuff is called by click on menubar | 16:15 |
| asac | which moves the mCurrentTarget field to the menu | 16:15 |
| asac | and the code thinks its still the same | 16:15 |
| asac | then it dispatches the click ... and since the mouse position is negative you get some randomness ;) | 16:16 |
| asac | due to overflow | 16:16 |
| fta | asac, what i'm supposed to do for http://launchpadlibrarian.net/20012919/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.prism_0.9.1%2Bsvn20081126r20278-0ubuntu1~fta2~hardy_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz ? | 16:31 |
| asac | fta: http://pastebin.com/f1a682d3d | 16:32 |
| fta | can't you include that in the next upload ? it's zero risk | 16:32 |
| asac | fta: can you build with that | 16:32 |
| asac | and _slowly_ try to reproduce this click thing ;) | 16:32 |
| asac | and see if it prints this stuff at all then ;) | 16:32 |
| asac | currently tend to "yes" | 16:33 |
| asac | s/tend/lean/ | 16:33 |
| fta | ? | 16:34 |
| asac | 17:32 < fta> can't you include that in the next upload ? | 16:35 |
| asac | 17:33 < asac> currently tend to "yes" | 16:35 |
| asac | 17:33 < asac> s/tend/lean/ | 16:35 |
| fta | hm, still unclear. is it possible to add the build-system into the xul sdk in hardy ? | 16:37 |
| fta | asac, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6274251 | 16:40 |
| fta | i've been applying that for a while: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/PatchTaggingGuidelines i kind of like it | 16:41 |
| tonyyarusso | Hey, if there's anyone with a more skill than me and a bit of spare time, would you mind taking a look at the various bugs filed against kompozer in 8.10? For some reason in this release it's segfaulting under various circumstances, although the kompozer package itself hasn't changed since Feisty I think (just merged between repos). | 17:23 |
| tonyyarusso | I have no idea what the issue is unfortunately, but there are some useful-looking bug reports that might give one of you a clue. | 17:23 |
| asac | tonyyarusso: when was the last rebuild? | 17:40 |
| asac | tonyyarusso: what happens on the console when it crashes? | 17:41 |
| tonyyarusso | asac: rebuild meaning what exactly? The last thing I did manually, as in type in "debuild -S" myself was like three releases ago. As far as what the Launchpad automatic stuff or anything done by other release mgmt people, I have no idea. | 17:43 |
| asac | tonyyarusso: try to do a rebuild | 17:43 |
| tonyyarusso | asac: normally on the console it just says somethign like "application crashed: segmentation fault" | 17:43 |
| asac | and see if things go away | 17:43 |
| tonyyarusso | Anything in particular I should be looking for while the output flies by? | 17:43 |
| asac | before crashing? | 17:46 |
| asac | no | 17:46 |
| asac | no idea ... you could try to get a backtrace | 17:46 |
| asac | but i would suggest to first do a rebuild locally and see if that elps | 17:46 |
| tonyyarusso | will do | 17:47 |
| tonyyarusso | btw, what determines the icon that shows up next to a program in "Add/Remove Programs"? The icon is right in the Applications menu once installed, but there's just a generic one in that list. | 17:48 |
| asac | tonyyarusso: at best create -dbgsym packages locally so you can get a backtrace later ... install pkg-create-dbgsym before building to achieve that | 17:48 |
| asac | tonyyarusso: the icon is part of app-install-data ... maintainer of that is mvo. you can request a merge if you have a branch | 17:49 |
| tonyyarusso | asac: any switches I have to pass as well, or will just the presence of the package be sufficient? Should pkg-create-dbgsym be installed on the local system, or as a build-dep for pbuilder? | 17:49 |
| asac | tonyyarusso: ensure that you pass the --disable-strip to configure in your package | 18:00 |
| asac | (and no --enable-strip of course) | 18:00 |
| fta | \o/ one baby step further.. http://launchpadlibrarian.net/20076538/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-i386.chromium-browser_0.3.155.0~svn20081120r5786-0ubuntu1~fta4_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz | 18:33 |
| directhex | fta, can i press "enter" yet? :) | 18:34 |
| fta | i'm currently patching that stuff to detach the testsuite from the source tree | 18:34 |
| fta | but as i don't know the code, i'm slow | 18:39 |
| fta | especially with that scons build system, which i find far worse than the mozilla makefile based build system | 18:40 |
| fta | and without mxr, it's a pain in the *s to dig into such huge pile of code | 18:47 |
| tonyyarusso | asac: could you look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/78380/ and tell me which way it seems to be by default? | 18:59 |
| fta | disable is the default | 19:00 |
| asac | tonyyarusso: disable | 19:00 |
| asac | yeah | 19:00 |
| asac | if its default or not ... making it explicit doesnt hurt | 19:00 |
| asac | because thats what we want | 19:00 |
| asac | (and not whatever is default) | 19:01 |
| tonyyarusso | how to I do that within the context of debuild? edit configure.in? | 19:04 |
| * tonyyarusso has never really messed with configure options much | 19:04 | |
| asac | tonyyarusso: in debian/rules? | 19:04 |
| asac | wherever you specify the other configuration options | 19:05 |
| tonyyarusso | my rules file just calls a makefile supplied by upstream | 19:08 |
| tonyyarusso | oh, this file looks useful - mozconfig.debian - has various variables defined that look similar. | 19:10 |
| tonyyarusso | has a line reading "ac_add_options --enable-strip-libs" currently | 19:11 |
| tonyyarusso | Looks like I need to add a line of "ac_add_options --disable-stip" | 19:13 |
| tonyyarusso | asac, fta: it currently has one of "ac_add_options --disable-debug" - what's that do? | 19:14 |
| fta | --disable-strip --disable-strip-libs --disable-install-strip is what we use in ff3 | 19:14 |
| fta | see about:buildconfig in ff | 19:15 |
| fta | asac, btw, about:buildconfig in ff shows xul configure line, not ff | 19:16 |
| tonyyarusso | Man it's been WAY too long since I did this stuff last...forgotten a lot. | 19:19 |
| tonyyarusso | aw crud, what file contains my secret key for gpg again? /me tried copying over secring.gpg, but apparently that wasn't sufficient | 19:22 |
| fta | asac, dquilt is not that nice with embedded tarballs and cdbs. this is slow and cdbs keeps changing the config.sub/guess files :( | 19:24 |
| asac | tonyyarusso: try the arguments fta suggests ... add them to ac_add_options | 19:43 |
| asac | take care that you dont do a typo ;) | 19:43 |
| asac | fta: not sure what you mean by "dquilt isnt good" | 19:43 |
| asac | fta: shouldnt dquilt detect the build-dir ? | 19:43 |
| tonyyarusso | asac: will do | 19:44 |
| * tonyyarusso is creating a pbuilder atm | 19:44 | |
| asac | pbuilder is for the weak ;) | 19:46 |
| tonyyarusso | what do you use? | 19:47 |
| fta | asac, it does, but i made it run pre-build so it unpacks the tarballs, the cons is that it also checks the tarball and performs some cdbs work each time: http://paste.ubuntu.com/78404/ | 19:47 |
| tonyyarusso | last I checked pbuilder was the recommended method... | 19:47 |
| asac | fta: yeah. imo thats a known cdbs bug | 19:48 |
| asac | not really sure whatfor the cdbs indexing really is | 19:48 |
| asac | maybe to figure out if the tarball changes | 19:48 |
| asac | yeah :-P | 19:50 |
| fta | asac, next meeting Sunday, 7th December, 19:00 UTC ??? | 20:05 |
| asac | unlikely | 20:07 |
| asac | in MV ;) | 20:07 |
| fta | that will be 10am, and with the jet lag... | 20:07 |
| asac | fta: jet lag means that you will be awake at 3am .. if its in that direction ;) | 20:08 |
| fta | i know, i've been there sereval times | 20:09 |
| asac | so 10am isnt that early ;) | 20:10 |
| fta | we'll see | 20:17 |
| fta | TypeError: coercing to Unicode: need string or buffer, instance found: | 21:00 |
| fta | i hate python | 21:00 |
| asac | ok i get XXX: found popup overflowing event coordinates: relative x/y: 1500/660 | 21:00 |
| asac | when this bug happens | 21:01 |
| asac | but sometimes i get that and it doesnt happen | 21:01 |
| asac | when i get that i also get a waring in debub build: | 21:01 |
| asac | XXX: found popup overflowing event coordinates: relative x/y: 1500/660 | 21:01 |
| asac | WARNING: Positioned frame that does not handle positioned kids; looking further up the parent chain: file /home/asac/Development/upstream/mozilla/mozilla-central/layout/base/nsCSSFrameConstructor.cpp, line 7773 | 21:01 |
| tonyyarusso | asac: Okay, I rebuilt the package, and now it crashes on run. See http://paste.ubuntu.com/78437/ | 21:03 |
| asac | nsCSSFrameConstructor::GetAbsoluteContainingBlock | 21:03 |
| asac | hmm | 21:03 |
| asac | tonyyarusso: install the -dbgsym package that you created (if you followed my instrutions) | 21:04 |
| asac | 18:48 < asac> tonyyarusso: at best create -dbgsym packages locally so you can get a backtrace later ... install pkg-create-dbgsym before building to achieve that | 21:04 |
| tonyyarusso | asac: well, I installed that package, but in my local environment. I never got an answer as to whether it was supposed to be there or in the pbuilder environment. | 21:05 |
| tonyyarusso | (and I don't appear to have one, so I'm guessing the latter) | 21:05 |
| asac | err, isnt that obvious ;) | 21:06 |
| asac | tonyyarusso: if you havent delete the biult tree you can just go into it | 21:06 |
| asac | and rebuild with that package installed using debuild -nc | 21:06 |
| asac | should be rather quick | 21:06 |
| asac | like 2 minutes ;) | 21:06 |
| tonyyarusso | Okay, so just to be clear: 1) edit debian/control to include it in the build-depends, 2) cd .. && debuild -nc, 3) re-run pbuilder build | 21:08 |
| asac | tonyyarusso: build depends? whatever. it has to be installed during build | 21:10 |
| asac | ;) | 21:10 |
| asac | why rerun pbuilder? | 21:10 |
| asac | debuild -nc is the rerun | 21:10 |
| asac | you have to do that in the old pbuilder chroot | 21:10 |
| asac | if you have removed it you probably notice why pbuilder is suboptimal for packages that take longer than 4 minutes ;) | 21:11 |
| * tonyyarusso is lost | 21:11 | |
| asac | whatever you do ... dont do it in pbuilder | 21:11 |
| asac | install build depends in main system or in a dedicated chroot | 21:11 |
| asac | and use that | 21:11 |
| asac | pbuilder is only to test if the biuld depends are right imo | 21:12 |
| tonyyarusso | Also handy just for the purpose of keeping my main system clean, but whatever. | 21:12 |
| asac | main system clean? ;) ... thats like keeping your school books in a library and not at home ;) | 21:13 |
| asac | i would suggest to setup a long living chroot if you want your main system to be virgin like | 21:14 |
| tonyyarusso | Yeah - would have to learn how to do that too :) | 21:14 |
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| asac | heh ;) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot | 21:15 |
| asac | take care that once you mount bind stuff like your home you shouldn just rm -rf /path/to/chroot | 21:16 |
| asac | otherwise you will wipe your complete home ;) | 21:16 |
| asac | just because i ended up in that situation once ;) | 21:16 |
| tonyyarusso | icky | 21:16 |
| asac | but usually one doenst need to wipe a chroot ... so just remember to check that nothing is bind mounted in it ;) | 21:16 |
| asac | when you remove it at some point | 21:16 |
| tonyyarusso | how would you check that? run mount within it? | 21:17 |
| plun | hello... fta around ? | 21:25 |
| fta | plun, yes | 21:26 |
| plun | The test shell works !!! ;) | 21:26 |
| plun | I can also surf.... ;) | 21:26 |
| fta | good, but it's not supposed to, yet. | 21:27 |
| fta | i'm still working on it | 21:27 |
| plun | I got a update earlier this evening and checked it.... ;) | 21:27 |
| fta | yep, those are my test builds | 21:28 |
| fta | it's supposed to start like that: http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/chromium.png | 21:30 |
| fta | not with an empty page like my last package | 21:30 |
| fta | plun, ^^ | 21:30 |
| plun | Aha... I started with the test_shell script.... http://ubuntu-pics.de/bild/6589/screen_gD7pEY.png | 21:31 |
| plun | Your page also works.... ;) | 21:32 |
| fta | plun, don't expect a full browser anytime soon, upstream is still far behind | 21:32 |
| plun | Yup... this is just a happening... ;) | 21:33 |
| plun | Well it also crashes... | 21:34 |
| plun | Failed reading: /usr/lib/chromium-browser/../../webkit/tools/test_shell/resources/missingImage.gif | 21:34 |
| plun | Trace/breakpoint trap | 21:34 |
| fta | yep, that's what i'm working on | 21:35 |
| fta | (the evil "../../webkit") | 21:36 |
| plun | Okidok.... "playing" with this, just great anyway !! Good night | 21:36 |
| fta | thanks | 21:36 |
| fta | n8 | 21:36 |
| tonyyarusso | asac: Okay, so I seem to have created a dbgsym package and installed it. Now what? | 21:50 |
| asac | tonyyarusso: reproduce crash | 21:53 |
| asac | get backtrace | 21:53 |
| fta | hm, ff3.1 crashed | 22:37 |
| fta | strangely, it didn't ask me which tabs I wanted to restore, it restored them all, like before | 22:38 |
| fta | another backout ? | 22:38 |
| fta | mconnor, ^^ ? | 22:39 |
| fta | asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/78474/ | 22:41 |
| mconnor | fta: mmm, iirc the plan was to only prompt if there were two crashes in swift succession | 22:42 |
| fta | hmm... ok. what about ctrl+tab ? is it gone in b2 ? | 22:43 |
| mconnor | yes | 22:45 |
| mconnor | in 3.1, really | 22:45 |
| fta | really? why? | 22:46 |
| fta | should i switch back to the addon then? | 22:47 |
| fta | mconnor, with ~150 tabs, the tab list is not usable | 22:47 |
| mconnor | fta: the UI wasn't good enough to ship | 22:48 |
| fta | mconnor, i see. is it completely gone or just prefed out ? | 22:49 |
| mconnor | it's selectively excised via #ifdef | 22:49 |
| mconnor | the plan is to get it in 3.2 | 22:50 |
| mconnor | we just didn't like the way the interaction was working, and we weren't going to slip the release for it | 22:50 |
| fta | damn, ok then. i'll switch back to the addon then. | 22:50 |
| mconnor | you're still way way way out on the long tail :) | 22:50 |
| fta | when i 3.1 final planed? | 22:51 |
| fta | is | 22:51 |
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