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tonibuntuhow do i tell what version of ubuntu i'm using?00:06
balluname -a ?00:14
tonibuntumy friend just bought a new lexmark all in one and i'm having trouble finding the driver for it, has anyone had any luck using x5410 lexmark with hardy?00:17
tonibuntulooking on the doc pages there is one that suggests using the z600 driver generically, but it doesn't appear in the list00:20
tonibuntuball, were you talking to me?00:26
balltonibuntu: yes00:27
ballThat may just give you the kernel version, let me try it.00:28
ballYes, that's odd.00:28
ballIt only tells me that I have a 2.6.27-9-server linux kerne00:28
balll00:28
tonibuntuball, no i think i'm using hardy, cause software source list showing hardy references ... my BIG issue is getting this printer lexmark x5410 to work00:29
ballI've not had good luck with printers and Ubuntu, but then I've only tried a few00:31
tonibuntuball, there's a tutorial for dapper to install through the terminal a lexmark z605 driver, will that also work in hardy?00:31
ballI don't know00:33
ball(sorry)00:33
tonibuntuor anybody, ball says printers not his forte .... i'm at my friends now and really want to get his printer up00:33
tonibuntuno, thanks anyways00:33
tonibuntuappreciate anybody that tries to help :)00:34
balltonibuntu: I know quite a bit about printers, but very little about Linux00:38
ballAre those Lexmark printers inkjets?00:38
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tonibuntuball, sorry, yes is inkjet00:40
martydi have successfully moved everything in my /home to the new /home on a different partition, it's just in /home/home_backup. is there a way to take everything in /home/home_backup and paste it up a directory? i have terminal only...00:41
ballmartyd: if you're in /home/home_backup, you could probably do "mv * .."00:42
ballthat's my guess anyway00:42
ball(be root btw)00:42
martydof course. * represents all in the current folder?00:43
martydand .. means parent directory?00:43
tonibuntudr_willis, can you give me any guidance on config this lexmark all in one x5410 printer for my friend?00:43
* ball nods00:44
ballI have to take some garbage out.  Back shortly.00:44
martydball, thank you00:44
ballmartyd: no problem00:52
tonibuntusorry got bumped ... if anyone can please help me i'm at my friends trying to get his lexmark all in one x5410 configged ... its not detected in the printer setup ... running hardy, but i found a tutorial for dapper to install a kind of generic lexmark driver ... any ideas on whether this would also work in hardy?  or are they that different?01:02
martydhave you searched ubuntu forums? or looked for a comprehensive printer problems thread?01:04
tonibuntuyes, i've looked bunch of places and nothing is really speaking to me i don't think01:06
tonibuntuis there a way to use the driver disk made for windows to extract the driver for the printer?01:10
tonibuntuit seems like mums the word tonite, huh01:16
tonibuntucould somebody just answer if i will hurt anything by trying the install suggested for use on dapper on a hardy machine?01:17
tonibuntuhere's the instruction:   http://pastebin.com/m2914431801:19
tonibuntugotta be one expert in the channel that could answer this please , will the process described at  http://pastebin.com/m29144318   work on a hardy system?01:26
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xubuserHello People.05:40
mixed-_-!ldap07:00
ubottuLDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information and installation instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer07:00
steph33560Hello09:34
steph33560Does xdtv will run under xubuntu ?09:37
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steph33560Hi :)10:32
knomehello.10:33
steph33560does xubuntu will leave more resources for video purposes ?10:34
steph33560(I've got a celeron 430, 1.8Ghz)10:34
steph33560any feedbacks would be great, I need to move my father's computer from XP to Ubuntu... !10:35
knomemore free resources comparing to...?10:36
steph33560to a classic Ubuntu disto :)10:36
steph33560s/disto/distro/10:36
knomewell... compared to ubuntu: yes, a bit10:37
knomedepends on what programs you're using10:37
knomexubuntu and ubuntu differ only of programs, not kernel or the core OS10:37
steph33560He intends to use something like OpenOffice, thunderbird, and XTV/XawDecode10:38
steph33560s/XTV/xdtv/10:38
steph33560maybe It would be more interesting to search for a lighter disto...10:39
knomethere definitely is lighter distros, but the easiness of usability might lose badly to xubuntu10:39
steph33560Yes, I see ... in fact, i try to choose using xubuntu or gentoo10:41
knomeis it your/his first linux experience?10:42
steph33560I'm using Debian, now Ubuntu, for many years, but it will be his very first linux experience10:43
knomeok10:43
knomei'd suggest try xubuntu then10:44
steph33560ok10:44
knomehow much ram is in the pc btw?10:45
steph335601GB10:46
knomeok, sounds enough :P10:46
steph33560In fact, I think the processor may be a little bit short for TV10:47
knomewell... i have no experiences of that10:47
knomecan't really say10:47
steph33560me too ;)10:47
steph33560i think I should start trying xubuntu and see how it reacts10:47
knomeyeah10:48
knomeinstalling it is really easy ;)10:48
steph33560mounting the docs on sdb, xubuntu on sda, and if xubuntu does not fit my needs, try to move to gentoo will ge possible on a fresh new sdc10:48
steph33560thanks for sharing your ideas :)10:49
knomeyeah np10:49
steph33560q10:49
sinHow do I get Flashplayer to work in xubuntu ?11:04
steph33560knome, ok, well, I tryied, I throw it :(11:10
steph33560the installer freeze on the first screen11:11
sinCan anyone tell me how to get flashplayer or gnash to work properly in Xubuntu 8.04 ?11:24
sinCan anyone tell me how to get flash player working in Xubuntu ?12:25
TheSheepsin: install flashplayer-nonfree package12:33
TheSheep!flash12:33
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash12:33
sinI did sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree and I can see the flashplayer-plugin in Mozilla, but it won't play videos, it's just white.12:35
TheSheepsin: try also installing codecs12:38
TheSheep!codecs12:38
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:38
sinShould I remove Gnash before installing Flashplugin-nonfree ?12:43
TheSheepno idea12:44
sinYes, it worked. It was Gnash that was the problem all along.12:46
sinAll hail proprietary software !12:47
TheSheepargh12:47
TheSheepsin: say, are you French?12:47
sinTheSheep: No sir, I am not.12:47
sinTheSheep: Why ?12:48
TheSheepbecause you put that funny spaces before punctuation, just like the French do12:48
TheSheeps/that/those12:48
sinTheSheep: I just think it looks better, but you might have a point with the French - I'm from Belgium.12:50
TheSheepaah :)12:50
robhey, i wanted to install exaile and used "sudo apt-get build-dep exaile" to get the deps. but now i dont like the player - how can i uninstall those deps WITHOUT uninstalling the deps that are dependant from other programs?13:33
Myrttirob: you've done lots of unnecessary work14:02
robwhy14:03
Myrttiwhy did you do build-dep to get dependencies when apt would have dealt the dependencies none the less14:03
roband i wouldnt consider 5 seconds as "lots"14:03
rob:)14:03
bad-wirewhen doing configure >> configure: WARNING: `missing' script is too old or missing14:03
bad-wireany ideas?14:03
Myrttibad-wire: well do you have "missing" script in the directory?14:04
robMyrtti, synaptics diddnt have the newest version of the program thats why i had to install the sourcecode manually and thats why i had to install the deps manually ;)14:04
Myrttirob: and for future reference, you might want to use aptitude instead of apt-get.14:04
bad-wireyes I can see the script there, and I downloaded the latest tarball from the software website14:04
robMyrtti, why? wheres the difference for me? its almost the same14:05
Myrttiaptitude takes care of the dependencies better14:05
robhm yes, ive already read that14:06
* vidd has read that too....but dont see how14:07
Myrttibad-wire: if the script came with the tarball, you need to contact the software developers14:07
robbut i diddnt know if "sudo aptitude build-dep exaile" works as well, thats why i did it with aptget14:07
bad-wireok Myrtti    :/  maybe I'll just try an older version, the one in the repositories is not configured to stream mp314:08
robseems like it doesnt work - do you know the according command to "apt-get build-dep"?14:10
Myrttirob: but you can still try to uninstall exaile with aptitude14:10
robyes, thats what i wanted to do14:11
robbut is there an according command to build deps with aptitude ?14:11
bad-wireMyrtti  if I replace that missing script with the laatest one from the latest subversion is it likely to work for me or is that not a good idea?14:15
Myrttibad-wire: I have no idea what's in the latest subversion, so I couldn't tell14:15
bad-wireok guess I'll go the whole hog and just get the latest bleeeding edge version and see if I can make that work14:19
bad-wireon another note: what would be the best software to clone a hard drive with linux on it, I know that ghost ain't really an option for it14:27
TheSheepdd14:29
TheSheepor tar14:29
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Guest46237Hi14:31
viddhello Guest4623714:31
Guest46237I just made a fresh install of Xubuntu 8.10 but can't hardly read anything14:32
Guest46237Can someone help me increase all the fonts?14:32
Guest46237Included this chat window ;)14:32
Guest46237Thanks anyhow14:36
Guest46237Cheers14:36
TheSheep!dpi14:36
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about dpi14:36
TheSheepGuest46237: go to settings->setting manager->user interface settings14:36
TheSheepcome back here, I didn't finish with you yet! >:(14:36
bad-wiretoo late14:41
bad-wireand now I need autoconf and automake :/14:41
bad-wiremaybe I'll get an automobile instead and go run over some people14:42
bad-wiretoo hungover to try and work it all out14:57
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viddhow do i add a user task to the server startup?16:14
viddfor example, i have an irc rbot in my /home directory,16:15
viddif my server reboots for whatever reaseon, i want the launch script to be run as the user16:16
TheSheepvidd: add it with 'su' to /etc/rc.local16:23
viddTheSheep, so su [user] /path/to/script?16:28
TheSheepvidd: yes, remember that the environment variables are not set though, unless you use -l16:34
viddso i might have to do su [user] /path/to/ruby /path/to/script?16:35
TheSheepyeah16:36
viddgreat....let me get my hunting gear out....=]16:36
TheSheepvidd: note that it will start before logging in and before X16:37
viddyes...this is what i want.....16:37
viddjust like apache and proftpd16:37
slow-motionhi16:37
viddhello slow-motion16:37
slow-motionhi vidd16:38
slow-motionis it possible to import torrents from azureus in transmission?16:39
viddslow-motion, yes...very easily....16:40
slow-motioncool16:40
slow-motionhow?16:40
TheSheepjust tell it to download to the same place16:40
slow-motionok16:40
slow-motionthx16:40
viddor, move the file to where transmission downloads to =]16:41
TheSheepyou can repair any roken files that way too :)16:42
slow-motioni really liked azureus once. but now it is full of useless stuff and i thought why should't i use the client xubuntu has16:42
viddTheSheep, now all i have to do is reboot the server to test it16:42
TheSheepvidd: you can just run /etc/rc.local as root16:42
TheSheepvidd: to see if it works properly16:42
viddslow-motion, i use torrentflux...since i have apache and php already installed16:43
viddTheSheep, thatnks for the tip =]16:43
slow-motionhm. could be nice, but i dont want to install apache and php just to download torrents16:44
viddlike i said....i already had it16:44
viddoh...and you need mysql with torrentflux too16:45
TheSheeprtorret+screen ftw :)16:45
slow-motionoh please stop it. i dont want to change the client a third time16:46
viddhehe16:46
slow-motion:)16:47
slow-motion;)16:47
viddTheSheep, /usr/bin/ruby: /usr/bin/ruby: cannot execute binary file16:47
BladieBlahi17:09
BladieBlai have a pc with a pentium 2 with 350 mhz, i installed xubuntu inside windows xp with sp3. I hate to say it but xubuntu starts very very very slow wheb i look at windows xp what can i do?17:10
BladieBlaits xp lite..17:11
viddBladieBla, please be slightly more specific....is it slower to load? or slower to work?17:16
BladieBlaslower to load17:18
BladieBlawork i dont know yet17:18
viddBladieBla, so once its up and running, is it faster, slower, or about the same?17:19
BladieBladont know sorry17:19
BladieBlabut the load time is to slow17:19
BladieBlacan i fix that?17:19
viddBladieBla, the thing you have to understand about xp lite is that it does not load any services during boot....17:20
BladieBlai use everything17:20
BladieBlainternet17:20
BladieBlait works17:20
viddso your internet connection wont load until you need to use the internet17:20
BladieBlait does everything wors normaly17:20
viddthe boot time is faster, but the app launch time is slower17:20
viddwhereas in xubuntu, it will load the tools right away17:21
BladieBlai start internet explorer pretty fast for a p217:21
viddBladieBla, how much ram you got in the machine?17:21
BladieBladoes ubuntu loads everything up in the memory?17:21
BladieBlai mean xubutu17:21
* vidd has no idea what ubuntu does....17:22
vidd=]17:22
BladieBla=P17:22
viddit starts the services17:22
BladieBlai ment xubuntu ofcourse silly me17:22
BladieBlathat i still dont understand17:22
BladieBlawindows xp starts fast and function normally when i press on the internet button it opens normally17:23
BladieBlawhy does xubuntu take so long17:23
BladieBlawhy load everything up in the beginning..17:23
viddBladieBla, HOW MUCH RAM DO YOU HAVE?17:23
BladieBlacan i change that?17:23
BladieBlahmm about 300+-17:23
vidd300+ what?17:24
BladieBlamb17:24
BladieBlaits a old pc =P17:24
BladieBlabut xp works on it lol17:24
viddcan you be a little more specific as to your exact amount of ram?17:24
BladieBlaonly i must install a antivirus that i think will kill it17:24
BladieBla326 ram mb memory17:25
BladieBlapentium 2, 350 mhz17:25
viddBladieBla, sure...a hollowed out windows xp can run on just about anything....but all those protection tools that you need to prevent it from becoming a zombie will kill it17:25
BladieBlajep17:26
BladieBlabut17:26
BladieBlawhy can xubuntu load fast17:26
BladieBlacant17:26
BladieBlatakes 10 minutes or so17:26
viddbecause xubuntu is designed for light-weight with emphasis on function....17:27
BladieBlawhats emphasis17:27
BladieBlai am dutch..17:27
viddyou want "designeed for function with emphasis on light weight"17:27
viddspecialized?17:28
BladieBlai dont know what it means17:28
viddbasicly, xubuntu puts function above light weight17:28
viddfunction is more important17:29
viddyou want a distro where light weight is more important then ease-of-use17:29
viddsomething like fluxbuntu17:30
vidd!fluxbuntu17:30
ubottufluxbuntu is a LPAE-standard compliant, Ubuntu-based derivative that maintains the goal of running on a wide range of mobile devices and computers (low-end & high-end). It is lightweight, swift and efficient. | Support Channel: #fluxbuntu on freenode | Homepage: http://fluxbuntu.org/17:30
BladieBlalike eee pc17:30
BladieBlai just need a web browser skype and msn17:30
viddBladieBla, then you want to build your own desktop....17:31
BladieBlawell my iq isnt high for that kinds of things17:31
viddget yourself a cli-only install, disable the "install-recommends"17:31
BladieBla=O17:31
BladieBlahmm17:31
BladieBlai must eat i will return =]17:32
viddthen add slim, openbox, xorg, hal, epiphany-browser17:32
BladieBlabut isnt there a easy to install eee pc like linux17:32
viddBladieBla, the eeepc would eat your system for breakfast and still be starved17:33
viddthe eeepc install would still tax your system17:33
viddBladieBla, your software requirements (skype) will kill your system17:34
viddthe ram is ok...but the mHtz ...ouch17:35
viddactually....the ram is "scraping the bottom"17:35
evilbughow would i add a launcher for openoffice launcher?17:43
evilbughow would i add a launcher for openoffice **17:43
privetevilbug: just let it execute /usr/bin/openoffice17:46
viddevilbug, whats wrong with the menu item? =]17:46
evilbugi'm doing it for someone else.17:47
djohngo_I'm looking for a panel item that will allow a user to start and stop a dial-up net connection.17:51
djohngo_Ideally it would work with penggy.17:51
djohngo_Does anyone know of such a beast?17:51
privetdjohngo: networkmanager does the  "dialup" for my 3G card.17:53
privetdjohngo: what type of dialup are you talking about?17:53
djohngo_privet: I'm setting up a system for someone who still uses AOL as their ISP.17:54
vidddjohngo, *shudder*17:54
djohngo_privet: I've configured penggy to dial and make the connection, but I need an easy way for them to get online.17:54
djohngo_privet, As you might imagine, they're a bit too intimidated to open up a terminal.17:55
vidddjohngo, have you looked http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=364157?17:55
viddhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36415717:55
vidddjohngo_, have you looked http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=364157 ?17:56
djohngo_vidd, sorry. Still trying to learn my way around w3m.17:57
viddhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto also is promising17:57
viddGnomePPP is a good graphic tool for dial-up17:57
djohngo_vidd, I'm not trying to use a graphical browser on a dial-up connection.17:58
knomecan't you just make a script and a launcher which will launch a terminal for it?17:58
knomeand launch the script itself17:58
knomes'pose that'd be the easiest way17:58
djohngo_knome, I'm thinking that's the way to go.17:59
djohngo_knome, I just didn't want to reinvent the wheel.17:59
knomethat is not reinventing anything ;)17:59
knomeand non-tech-savvy people don't think that a bit hacky :P18:00
knomethey'll just think it's the way to go18:00
djohngo_I'd better get to it.18:01
djohngo_Thanks a bunch, everyone.18:01
vidddjohngo_, you just said "i dont want terminal..." then "i dont want graphical...." pick one =]18:01
knomevidd, he wanted automatic for the end-user.18:01
viddknome, aol wont work "automatically"18:02
viddnot even in windows18:02
knomewhy not?18:02
viddum...they are more evil then M$?18:02
knomeeven if you had to enter password to the terminal, the script will be launched with one click18:02
knomeor anything18:03
viddTheSheep, still no luck getting a ruby script to launch in rc.local19:21
TheSheepvidd: why not?19:23
viddTheSheep, /usr/bin/ruby: cannot execute binary file19:25
cody-somervillevidd, what does `which ruby` return?19:29
vidd/usr/bin/ruby19:29
viddnow....i seperated the su [username] and the ruby command, and i get no error19:30
TheSheepvidd: sorry, use sudo -u19:31
viddis there a way to have rc.local run ruby as userx without su userx?19:31
viddah19:31
viddsweet....thanks TheSheep19:33
viddi want to take data files from a crashed windows hard drive and burn them to a dvd....20:55
viddbrasero complains the file hierarchy is too deep.....20:55
viddhow can i get around that?20:56
vinnlPerhaps another burning application?20:57
viddany suggestions?20:58
* vidd would hate to have to install hardy on a system just to burn one dvd20:58
vinnlWell, I haven't tried any, but there's Gnomebaker, Graveman... And k3b is supposed to be good but that's Qt20:59
viddsomething had to change between the hardy and the intrepid versions....because i burned this image before upgrading to ii21:00
tinaanyone got any advice on cpu info21:22
pleia2tina: could you be more specific?21:23
tinai have a p4 2gig cpu and running xubuntu hardy,the smallest program makes my cpu jump to 100 percent.i have 1.5 gigs ram and a 512 vid card21:23
knometina, "the smallest program" = ?21:23
pleia2does it just spike, or does it remain high?21:23
tinanow i know this is a p4 but it should be allot faster than this right?21:24
tinaemillia pinball21:24
tinaits a tux pinball verry simple21:24
tinaeven just firefox21:24
tinawhen it opens any program it jumps to 100% if its a vid or game it stays there21:25
R1cochetrun it in terminal21:25
R1cochetmaybe?21:26
tinain terminal?you mean dont click the program link use sudo in terminal to start the program21:26
TheSheepdon't use sudo without reason21:29
TheSheepyou can run it without sudo too21:30
tinaok21:30
tinaemilia pinball21:30
TheSheepwhat does the system monitor say?21:30
tinais a super small program,is there a reason my p4 doesnt perform the way it should.is it xubuntu that is having the prob or is it my system21:31
knometina, if all the other apps work well, it sounds like it's the app.21:31
tinano its any app21:32
tinaeven just starting webbrowser its supper slow take 3 secs just to get the window open21:32
vinnlMy Firefox takes longer21:33
vinnlThough then again, I have lots of extensions and tabs open by default21:33
viddheh..."JUST firefox"!21:33
viddtina, firefox is a beast21:34
knometina, so are you saying that the slow performance is consistent or only appearing with the pinball game?21:34
tinano its deff consistant21:35
viddtina, they i would say its your system....21:35
tinaany app i use is slow to open and i can only run one program at a time21:35
viddare you on it now?21:35
knomei agree with viff21:35
tinayah21:35
vinnltina, have you run any other operating system on that computer before? Which was it? Did that perform better?21:36
tinajust using this konversation app is taking half my cpu steady21:36
viddheh...no wonder you are having issues!.....21:36
viddKDE is bloat-and-a-half21:36
tinai built this system and installed kubuntu originaly and then i switched to xubuntu and its been in my daughters room since,i just got back on it and its super slow21:37
pleia2even so, the specs on that system should be able to handle quite a bit21:37
viddtina, i would recommend backing up data files and doing a clean install21:38
viddsomething on your ssytem isnt acting right21:38
viddif it were a windows machine, id say it was infested by malware21:38
tinaok and does it matter what buntu i use?will using a diff buntu make a diff.i was under the understanding that xfce is the lightest one21:39
viddits quite possible there is a rootkit running21:39
tinawhat is a rootkit and how would i findout21:39
tinamy prcesses all say sleeping and yet im at 100% on cpu21:40
tinajust moving my mouse makes it spike lol21:40
tinaok im gonna do a fresh install and see what comes up21:41
vidda rootkit is "spyware, on steriods, for linux"21:43
knomevidd, and tina is gone, connection closed by remote21:53
viddknome, i got eaten by the lag-monster21:53
apadoxhi .. i have googled but can't find how to set 1280x800 in xubuntu23:49
knomeapadox, from the Application menu: Settings > Settings Manager > Display23:51
apadoxknome,  there is no option for that res23:51
apadoxonly 1024x 80023:51
apadox1024x76823:51
knomei suppose your monitor should support the bigger resolution?23:51

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