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VistaUseryah00:00
VistaUseri dont like torrents because well u have to download them before u can here them00:00
szrhawaiithats like when they compare windows to mac00:00
astrommeepimeth: No, but I'm pretty sure it's a kde3 app which would mean it would use your kde3 io-slaves00:00
szrhawaiiyeah thats ture but if you know what you want your good00:00
VistaUsermac is better its purple00:01
VistaUserlol00:01
VistaUserumm what can i use to organize my ipod?00:01
szrhawaiihaha and the find files bar is in the top right not the bottom left00:01
loganWHD [30/Nov/2008:18:55:52 -0500] cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found!00:01
loganWHDnot even sure what that means00:01
epimethastromme: noooooooooo!!!! but its part of kdewebdev :-(00:01
szrhawaiitheres a feature for that on your package manager00:01
VistaUserwhats it called?00:02
szrhawaiii use amarok for everything but theres other good ones out there00:02
VistaUseru know any lol that is easy to use?00:02
szrhawaiii look them up00:02
VistaUserok00:02
epimethVistaUser: amarok is pretty good00:03
astrommeepimeth: However, kde3 still has kioslaves....00:03
epimethastromme: yea, but I probably have to install them somehow....00:03
VistaUseris it nice looking?00:03
epimethastromme: and I'm very surprised that the kde team hasn't ported quanta yet....00:03
szrhawaiiyeah it is vistauser00:03
epimethVistaUser: amarok, yea... I'm a fan00:03
astrommeepimeth: Maybe there is a kde4 version that I don't know about. Go to help -> about Quanta00:04
szrhawaiiyou can modify it easily00:04
astrommeI use amarok and love it00:04
szrhawaiiand theres plenty of add ns00:04
JontheEchidnaQuanta hasn't been ported to KDE4 yet btw00:04
epimethastromme: yea, you're right...00:04
JontheEchidna!info quanta00:04
ubottuquanta (source: kdewebdev): web development environment for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.10-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 2435 kB, installed size 5900 kB00:04
astrommeCurrently I'm using the Amarok2 RC packages and they are great00:04
epimethJontheEchidna: thanks :-p00:04
astrommeJohntheEchidna: Thanks00:05
VistaUserapt-get install amarok?00:05
JontheEchidnaya, np00:05
Dillizardoes anybody use Opera??00:05
epimethJontheEchidna: wait, its says Version 4!!!00:05
JontheEchidnaepimeth: that's the debian epoch00:05
epimethVistaUser: should be installed by default00:05
szrhawaiiyep thats it vistauser00:05
astrommeepimeth: The plot thickens...00:05
VistaUseroo kk00:05
epimethoh... garrrr00:05
szrhawaiiit should be in your media section00:05
astrommeOh, so thats what the 4: in everything is00:05
VistaUsernot there :)00:05
epimethso I can't view my scp folders in it anymore?!?  that sucks00:05
JontheEchidnaBack in the KDE2 days somebody used the svn revision number (30,000 or something) as the package version00:05
astrommeepimeth: You can still use fish00:05
szrhawaiithen download it from your package manager00:06
epimethastromme: not that I can see...00:06
VistaUserszrhawaii u using KDE or ubuntu?00:06
JontheEchidnaso we had to put a 4 in front of everything00:06
astrommeepimeth: You're on intrepid, right?00:06
szrhawaiikde00:06
szrhawaiiwell kubuntu00:06
szrhawaii8.04.100:06
VistaUserkubuntu is KDE?00:06
szrhawaiiyeah00:06
VistaUserooo i didnt know00:07
VistaUsercool00:07
szrhawaiithey also have mythbuntu and xubuntu to00:07
VistaUserwhat that be and how i get?00:07
gadalejhi room00:07
VistaUserhey00:07
epimethVistaUser: yea, by default.  kubuntu and ubuntu are the same except for the default packages installed, mainly ones related to the window manager.  kde for kbuntu, gnome for ubuntu00:07
epimethastromme: yup00:08
astrommeJontheEchidna: Shows what problems down the road one decision can make00:08
szrhawaiiwell myth is for like a person running a home entertainment off their laptop which runs xfce on it00:08
szrhawaiiwhich xubuntu runs xfce00:08
VistaUserwill i need to burn another ISO for those?00:08
szrhawaiidepends if you only have the one cd or the multi cd00:09
szrhawaiii have the one that has all four on them00:09
epimethVistaUser: you can use the online repositories, too00:09
VistaUserhow did u get them?00:09
szrhawaiibut yeah you would though00:09
szrhawaiijust type those names in00:09
szrhawaiixubuntu00:09
gadalejyeah, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?00:09
szrhawaiiand mythbuntu in google00:09
VistaUserok00:09
epimethgadalej: yup00:10
VistaUserand i can get there repos and get them into the start session thing?00:10
szrhawaiior you can do it that way too00:10
epimethastromme: so any more suggestions?00:10
szrhawaiii would just download them from the web page00:10
astrommeepimeth: I'm looking now... fish isn't working for me with quanta either =/00:10
VistaUserok00:10
szrhawaiiavoids complications00:10
szrhawaiijust in case you accidentally press the wrong button somewhere00:11
VistaUserwill i be able to keep ubuntu to?00:11
szrhawaiilike i do sometimes00:11
VistaUserdoes it become a new session thing in the options?00:11
szrhawaiii believe you get the option all the time to double partition with ubuntu00:11
szrhawaiiat the beginning when you download the iso from the web page00:11
VistaUserooooo kk00:11
WalzmynAnybody know what to do if enabling desktop effects turned yer screen black?00:11
astrommeVistaUser: Yes it becomes a new session00:11
szrhawaiiof course it becomes a new session cause your re partitioning00:12
astrommeWalzmyn: You can manually disable desktop effects by removing the kwinrc config file in ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc00:12
szrhawaiibut save all your stuff before doing anything a friendly reminder00:12
VistaUserastromme: ok, if i get the repository and use synaptic00:12
VistaUserok00:12
astrommeszrhawaii: You can install both kde and gnome on the same ubuntu install00:13
astrommeFrom gnome do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to get kde00:13
astrommeor rather00:13
astrommeif you want to be able to remove it easily00:13
astrommesudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop. Then to remove it, sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop00:13
astrommeVistaUser: yes, synaptic works too00:14
szrhawaiiastromme that manual configure for the desktop does it shut off completely00:14
VistaUserok ty00:14
astrommeszrhaaii: What?00:14
szrhawaiior when you restart will it come back on00:14
szrhawaii Walzmyn: You can manually disable desktop effects by removing the kwinrc config file in ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc\00:14
Walzmynastromme, should I just remove that file, or edit it and change a setting?00:14
astrommeszrhawaii: it resets kwin to the defaults00:14
VistaUserbrb00:14
gadalejanyone here using winfast tx2000xp in ubuntu?00:15
szrhawaiioh i was looking for a way to shut of my default background from drawing00:15
astrommeWalzmyn: You can probably edit it but I'm not sure. Remvoing it will remove customizations to kwin (such as enabled desktop effects, screen positions of apps, etc)00:15
szrhawaiido you know what file that is00:15
szrhawaiior how to do that00:15
astrommeszrhawaii: No idea00:15
Walzmynastromme, good deal, thankyouverymuch. I'll go give it a whirl00:15
astrommeepimeth: Hmm... It looks to be a no go here =/00:15
szrhawaiiit kind of sucks i gotta do the killall kdesktop everytime to see my other background00:16
VistaUserE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)00:16
VistaUserE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?00:16
dr_willisAre you root?00:16
VistaUserwhat does that mean and how can i get into the file or w/e00:16
astrommeVistaUser: Are you sudoed?00:16
dr_willis:)00:16
VistaUseridk what that mean00:16
dr_willissudo apt-get install whatever....00:16
dr_willisnote the 'sudo'00:16
VistaUserooooooo i need sudo00:16
astrommeVistaUser: are you using synaptic or the command line?00:16
szrhawaiiits a root if you cant get in00:16
astrommeWoah, that was some irc lag00:16
VistaUseri am trying to get amorak00:16
szrhawaiidid it give you a password option00:17
dr_willisyes... rember 'to do SYSTEM TYPE TASKS - one must be root' :)00:17
epimethastromme: yea... garrrrr sucks00:17
VistaUsernope00:17
dr_willissudo apt-get install WHATEVER00:17
epimethVistaUser: sudo apt-get install amarok.  but it should be installed already if you installed kubuntu-desktop00:17
VistaUseri was sudoed00:17
epimethVistaUser: K -> Multimedia-> Amarok00:17
VistaUserty i am trying to get xubuntu mythubntu and what not00:17
szrhawaiidid you give a admin password or in the admin user session00:18
VistaUseryes00:18
szrhawaiithen it should let you00:18
VistaUserkk i got it working i need sudo infront of apt-get00:18
szrhawaiiyou always need sudo00:19
szrhawaiiits like abra cadabra00:19
VistaUseryah i just figured that out00:19
dr_willisdident we just say that in the examplkes.. like 3 times :P00:19
epimethsudo make me a sandwich00:19
VistaUserLOL00:20
dr_willissudo the hokey pokey00:20
VistaUsersudo pie-get eat00:20
e-headalright.  it's working now.  switching from a DVD rom to a CD ROM seemed to help.00:20
jsuniodumb question: would I want to create extra partion as extended or primary. It might be mounted by either linux or windows (dual boot).00:20
astrommeepimeth: =/. Not good: <JontheEchidna> nope, they used to be in kdebase and now kdebase is at the kde4 version00:21
epimethjsunio: your choice, really... just keep in mind that you can have either 4 primary or 3 primary and 1 extended (with up to 4 partitions on the extended)00:21
epimethyea... I'm just gonna ssh and use emacs... even though its sloooooow00:22
jsunioepimeth: I googled what "extended partition" is, but I couldn't really find out why you would want to use it.00:22
astrommeepimeth: kate isn't enough?00:22
epimethastromme: I just threw up a little in my mouth00:22
astrommejsunio: because if you want more than 4 partitions extended partitions are the only way to go00:23
jsunioaha!00:23
epimethjsunio: I just told you. an extended partition allows you to create 4 more partitions00:23
jsuniotx00:23
astrommeepimeth: Blargh! What's wrong with kate?00:23
epimethastromme: its a text editor.  I'm developing00:23
epimethastromme: kate is my editor of choice for conf files... not for creating an entire drupal driven site!00:24
astrommeOut of curoisity, what does vim have that kate is lacking (not including the differing modes of interface, unless that's the reason)00:24
epimethastromme: vim?  I'd rather use kate!00:25
epimethastromme: I'm an emacs boy00:25
epimeth:-)00:25
astrommeepimeth: alright, emacs. I had a 50/50 chance =P00:25
epimethand yes, its the interface modes.  syntax highlighting, auto indentation00:25
VistaUseruis ubuntu and linux made for coding ???00:25
jsunioyou can use vi without a gui00:25
epimethits a pain in the butt to do those things elsewhere00:26
Walzmynwoohoo! That worked guys. Thanks for the advise.00:26
astrommeepimeth: Alright, I don't know if the auto-indentation exsists for kate but unless you've got some crazy language kate has excellent syntax highlighting. But, that's offtopic, sorry that quanta isn't working =/00:26
epimethVistaUser: well I'm just realized that kde4 is not yet ready for us developers, but kdevelop (in my case, kdewebdev) has some really good packages for developers00:26
WalzmynI ended up just editing it. T'was a single true/false setting what fixed it00:26
astrommeWalzmyn: Glad to hear00:26
VistaUseroo kk00:27
epimethVistaUser: but in general, Linux is #1 for development, web dev especially00:27
astrommeepimeth: I've been working with some of the svn builds of kdevelop4. Wow they are amazing00:27
VistaUseroo kk00:27
VistaUserwell i guess i got to learn coding for fun :)00:27
VistaUseri installed amarok and now i cant find00:28
szrhawaiiit should be in your multimedia section in your start menu00:29
VistaUseris there a command like sudo apt find amarok or someting????????00:29
astrommeWalzmyn: Out of curiosity what graphics card do you have?00:29
astrommeVistaUser: apt-cache search packagename00:29
astrommeyou don't need to sudo that00:29
VistaUseroo kk ty00:30
epimethVistaUser: I told you... K-> Multimedia -> Amarok :-)00:30
VistaUserooo kk i guess i need to go into Kubuntu brb00:31
e-headHey00:32
astrommee-head: welcome back00:32
e-headIt seems to be going on fine now that I switched from a DVD to a CD ROM.00:32
e-headCan anyone point me to a "Kubuntu Quick Start" guide or something?00:33
szrhawaiivistauser you didnt download it in your ubuntu00:33
e-headOne that ISNT geared to a total newbie.00:33
dr_willisGee... you anything else you want? :P00:33
e-headThose 101 guides can kind of get on my nerves.  ;)00:33
astrommee-head: Hmm00:33
astrommee-head: I might look at the KDE release notes00:34
dr_willislearning kde 4 -  i would start with the kde4 help docs/homepage I guess00:34
VistaUserback00:34
szrhawaiidid you find it00:34
dr_willisas for  learning Linux. :) theres 10000's of guides for that - of all levels.00:34
VistaUseryah00:34
epimethVistaUser: you weren't in kubuntu?  then you could have just alt+f2 and then "amarok"00:34
e-headDoes kubuntu have any sort of admin tools like Suse?00:34
epimethin fact, you can do that in kubuntu too00:34
e-headOr does KDE for that matter?00:34
astrommeIt has a system config in "System Settings"00:34
VistaUseromg nvm i love kbuntu feel of things00:34
e-headOr, should I just open a console and break out vi for configuring my network settings and things like that?00:35
astrommee-head: to see things in 4.1: http://kde.org/announcements/4.1/00:35
VistaUserubuntu and kubuntu commands the same?00:35
e-headthanks00:35
szrhawaiikubuntu g=has a nicer feel of a lot of things00:35
VistaUserlol00:35
e-headIt's been a while since I've even used KDE.00:35
VistaUserubuntu and kubuntu commands the same?00:35
szrhawaiinot all00:36
epimethVistaUser: yes.  there is no difference between the two00:36
VistaUserok00:36
epimethVistaUser: the only difference is in the window manager00:36
VistaUserhow do i find my ipod in amarok?00:36
VistaUserepimeth ok00:36
szrhawaiiwith the window open you should be able to see options along the rights ide of the window00:37
astrommee-head: if you have specific questions ask them here. I can help. If you want general information try http://userbase.kde.org or the release notes I posted above00:37
VistaUseryah i see um but which is my ipod under i went to devices and nothing00:38
astrommeSome of my best finds: alt-f2 for krunner (application launcher and more). Add some plasmoids (see the cashew on the panel or in the upper right hand corner) and play around with some apps00:39
astrommeVistaUser: It should be in devices on the left hand side of amarok00:39
VistaUseri am there and its not there00:40
astrommeTry plugging in your ipod after amarok is started00:40
VistaUserok00:41
e-headHas anyone here used XRDP?00:41
astrommee-head: xrdp? Meaning just rdp for X11?00:41
szrhawaii_#compiz-fusion00:41
VistaUsernope nothing00:41
VistaUseri think not compatible with itouch?00:42
astrommeVistaUser: oh, yeah.... probably not =/00:42
e-headastromme, yeah, pretty much00:42
VistaUserdang lol00:42
szrhawaii_try finding the ipod plug ins00:42
astrommeI think the iPhone/iPod touch need to be hacked to work with linux because of the new encryption00:42
e-headyou can use Windows remote desktop with it.00:42
astrommebut I could be wrong00:42
VistaUserso i need to do something to make work on linux00:43
VistaUserlet me use google brb00:43
astrommee-head: alright00:43
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astrommee-head: I think I'm going to go afk now if you don't have any immediate questions. If you're going to be using kubuntu for a while I would suggest getting amarok2 rc (check kubuntu.org).00:45
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tpw_rulesi installed kdevelop on ubuntu and it did not come with several necessary packages, such as automake, konsole, and build-essential. does this only happen on ubuntu and kubuntu comes standard with it all? I know it comes with console, but what about the other two?00:47
webmareni can't print with my hp c5180, it's giving me an error 5120 "Communication error"00:47
webmarenverified that it's not a hardware problem, it works fine with the Mac00:48
dr_willisI would imageine  the developer of the package  - dident include EVERY development package as dependencies.. :)00:48
astrommetpw_rules: You can use kdevelop to develop non-cpp applications, and kdevelop itself doesn't depend on those packages00:48
VistaUseris there a way to turn off the password thing to download thingS?00:49
astrommeThey are probably suggested but not depended-on00:49
jsuniowebmaren: I had trouble with my printer too, did you try googling it?00:49
webmarenVistaUser: are you talking about using Adept?00:49
tpw_rulesastromme: ah ok, but i was asking because suse comes with it all00:49
astrommeVistaUser: ? meaning with sudo so it doesn't ask for your password?00:49
webmarenjsunio: I have but it doesn't seem that anyone has a real solution00:49
VistaUserno i mean when i download something from a site and when i ty install it always asks for a password00:50
jsunioAny evidence of people getting it to work?00:50
jsuniowebparem: Any evidence of people getting it to work?00:50
e-headGood heavens00:50
webmarenVistaUser: you remember back when you had windows, and you got viruses?00:50
e-headThings have changed so much.  ;)00:50
VistaUseryah00:50
astrommetpw_rules: Yeah, i'm pretty sure that it's not included because kdevleop doesn't depend on those packages. Rather, what you create with kdevelop might depend on them00:50
e-headI've been running EvilWM for the last 5 years.  KDE isn't even recognizable to me anymore.   ;)00:50
webmarenVistaUser: This is a security feature so that doesn't happen, otherwise anybody could install anything on your machine00:51
VistaUseroo kk00:51
astrommee-head: Wow, that's a long time. Yeah, kde is quite a different beast than it was even a year ago00:51
tpw_rulesastromme: ok00:51
webmarenjsunio: haven't seen anything concrete00:51
tpw_rulesastromme: but you need those packages to compile and run a c++ application00:51
jsuniowebmaren: unfortunate... I never got my printer working. But I did find a bunch of different drivers to try. Some of them *almost* worked.00:52
astrommetpw_rules. Yes, I agree, but kdevelop can also be used for python, java, etc.... it's not just for cpp and imho it's not the package manager's job to guess what you're using kdevelop for. I use aptitude which auto-installs suggested packages and looking at the entry it suggests things like gdb, make, automake.00:53
jsuniowebmaren: You could try a generic driver that works with other HP. I thought ubuntu worked pretty well with HP.00:53
szrhawaii_#pidgin00:55
webmarenjsunio: it worked excellently until today00:55
jsuniowebmaren: does this apply https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpPrinterInstallationAndMaintenanceDapper00:55
jsuniowebmaren: oh... did you upgrade packages or something?00:56
kabokde doesnt seems to be loaading at all. any way to fix it??00:56
astrommee-head: I'm going afk. If you have a problem, address me directly so that my tray icon flashes =P00:56
webmarenjsunio: just normal updates, you'd think people would be grumbling all over the place if there was an actual bug...00:56
jsuniowebmaren: sometimes things break for me when I do normal updates. Maybe the driver you were using, or some shared component was changed.00:57
webmareni'm going to kill someone at HP00:57
webmarenmy printer's IP jumped and that's why I lost it00:57
jsuniohah00:58
webmarenyou'd think this sort of thing could be easily fixed, but noooooo00:58
webmarenat least, thank you "localhost:631"00:58
jsunioI wish my printer had a network port00:58
VistaUsermy wobbling function doesnt work'00:58
e-headHey, can you use all the "apt" command line package tools?00:59
e-headand dpkg?00:59
astrommee-head: From kubuntu? of course. apt-get, aptitude, dpkg, apt-source, apt-cache, etc.. are all there.01:00
knusperfroschhi!01:01
astrommeknusperfro: Hello01:01
VistaUserwhats difference between konsol and teminal?01:02
knusperfroschgot a laptop with intel graphics but unfortunately i can't switch off the LCD and external VGA while idle. the display backlight turns off but after 2seconds the backlight switches on again and shows a black screen01:02
knusperfrosch"xset dpms force off" does the same01:02
astrommeknusperfro: Sorry, no idea.01:04
Dj_LiteI need a little bit of help01:04
Dj_Litecan any of you guys help me?01:04
cuzntask the question already01:05
Dj_Liteok01:05
cuzntwe will never know unless you ask01:05
Dj_LiteHow do you set up internet connection on Kubuntu?01:05
cuzntwith knetwork manager01:06
Num83rGuyK torrent is giving me a "The process for the http://tracker.name.com protocol died unexpectedly." error for many torrents. They just sit stalled and I am sure they have seeds. I am just wondering if I have my settings wrong or if it is a bug.01:06
Num83rGuyOops sorry for my rudeness. Hi, Could some one please help with question I have stated above at your lesure.01:08
Dj_Litedoes Kubuntu work worth Belkin?01:09
szrhawaii_got a dumb question01:11
Dj_Liteguess i just gotta connect with wired01:11
szrhawaii_how do i add a patch file01:11
bopfermanHello, I am trying to get my Logitech quickcam pro 5000 webcam working with kubuntu.  I couldnt find a native KDE webcam program (other than Kopete which doesnt support it for AIM) so I have tried to use cheese.  This program does not show any video when using the camera.  I have done a lsusb and the webcam is detected properly and I have also tested it working in Kopete.01:12
harolddongfrom what I've read its an issue tht the current linux kernal has with webcams01:15
Num83rGuyI hope I didn't step into a tabo subject.01:15
Num83rGuy*taboo01:15
bopfermanThe webcam works well in Kopete, it is detected, but only msn and yahoo are supported with that program.01:16
harolddongwecams worked fine for me with hardy but not since updating to intrepid.  everything I've found says its a problem with the kernel01:16
VistaUserback01:17
harolddongyes it will be detected but you said you cant see any video... that's an issue a lot of people are having with the new kernel01:17
bopfermanI do see video in kopete, but not cheese01:17
VistaUseranyone recomend any good packages01:18
nate_hay all i want to make my laptop a digital frame but the guide is for a different os and i want to use this one so can u tell me how to start feh and unclutter at start01:18
nate_with out x01:19
roganhow do I upgrade the latest version of Amarok 2.0? I thought it would automaticly do it through the repos.. I have 8.1001:19
epimethrogan: its in the neon project... let me find it01:22
epimethrogan: http://amarok.kde.org/de/node/48501:23
epimethrogan: but I must add that google.com is your friend in these situations01:24
roganshut the fuck up and dont be a smart ass01:24
VistaUserhow do i get hamachi?01:24
Num83rGuyWOW that was uncalled for.01:25
jsunioinvalid input detected01:25
Num83rGuyLOL01:25
giuliaciao01:32
rhineheart_mhello.. how to remove kubuntu? I want to retain system files.. won't use GUI anymore01:43
Dr_willis_You mean you wish to remove the KDE desktop AND all the X server and related files?01:44
rhineheart_myes01:44
Dr_willis_fire up package manager and start Uninstalling I guess..01:44
Dr_willis_Or you could just disable kdm from starting up.. and get a console login.01:44
rhineheart_mis there a way doing it in CLI?01:45
rhineheart_mmmm...how to do it?01:45
Dr_willis_the packaging system has the apt-get cli commands yes..01:45
rhineheart_mI just want to disable KDE from startup01:45
Dr_willis_kdm service is started in the rc2 runlevel thers soms sysv tools to enable/disable those services01:45
Dr_willis_rhineheart_m,  thats a TOTALLY differnt task then what you originall y asked then. :P01:45
rhineheart_many command? in cli?01:46
Dr_willis_of course theres commands01:46
Dr_willis_this is linux. ;)01:46
Dj_Litewhat happens when KNetworkManager stops working?01:46
rhineheart_mI dunno... I just can't login into desktop01:46
Dr_willis_see the directory     /etc/rc2.d    every script in there is an item ran at the startup01:46
* Secutor is back.01:46
Dr_willis_rhineheart_m,  so why do you want to disable kdm then? why not fix the  desktop?01:46
rhineheart_mthe password is correct01:47
Dj_Litehmm..01:47
rhineheart_mbut it would go back to login page01:47
rhineheart_meverytime I will try to login01:47
Dj_Liteim trying to install my D-Link network adapter and the lights are flashing on it, how would i go about installing the drivers and such for it01:47
rhineheart_mmmm..maybe...allowing root login could solve the problem..01:47
rhineheart_mcan you teach me how to let root login in KDE?01:48
dr_willisI doubt if that 'fixes' anything...01:48
dr_willisgo to the console, stop the kdm service,  then try the 'startx' command.01:48
dr_willisyou CAN login to a console?01:48
rhineheart_myeah..01:48
rhineheart_mboth users can login to console01:49
dr_willisand both users can NOT login to X?01:49
rhineheart_mmm..the system won't allow root login01:49
dr_willisof course root cant login directly01:50
rhineheart_mbut users can't too01:50
dr_willisyou have 1 or 2 users?01:50
rhineheart_msystem accepts the password but after the screen would turn to black then a matter of 3 seconds it goes back to login page01:51
rhineheart_monly 2 users01:51
dr_willisI would try as a test.. going to the console, and making a NEW user 'testuser' see if it also affects them01:51
VistaUserdr_willis01:54
VistaUseru still there01:54
dr_willisYes..  for a little while.01:54
rhineheart_mdr_willis, how to make a new user?01:55
VistaUserkk i got KDE rght now and at the bottom right hand corner ist has those things and the time how do i decrease its big size01:55
dr_willisrhineheart_m,  i use the 'adduser' command01:55
dr_willisVistaUser,  you click on the 'cashew' icon at the far right to unlock the widget/panel and resize things with that..  Other then that..   its trial and error.. and in some cases not possible. :)01:56
dr_willisgiven how 'vague'     our little chat is.. :) im not sure what exactly you are doing.01:57
VistaUserok ty01:57
VistaUserwhat does remove this panel do?01:58
dr_willisI would guess.... removes the panel.. ;P01:58
VistaUserwhat is a panel?01:59
dr_willisThe big widget at the bottom of your screen01:59
dr_williswhere all your buttons are.01:59
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VistaUseroooooooooo kk01:59
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oscarhola02:01
mister-tea!es02:01
rhineheart_mdr_willis, same thing... it wont02:01
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.02:01
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vatusaixxhi02:02
mister-tea!hi02:02
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!02:02
rhineheart_mdr_willis, I added a user then I used it to login..but it won't allow me to login. After logging in.. the screen turns to black then after a 3 seconds it brings back to login page02:03
Dj_Liteok, im getting confused setting up my internet connection02:05
Dj_Litei heard taht D-Link is universal so, tahts what i got02:05
mister-teaand?02:06
Dj_Litedo i have to set up my network again like i did with windows02:06
rhineheart_mDj_Lite, can't you use ot?02:06
Dj_Liteot?02:06
rhineheart_mit02:06
Dj_Liteits not recognizing my internet02:06
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rhineheart_mhow many NIC you got?02:07
Dj_Litelol im new to linux and im only 14 so i dont know much about my internet02:08
Dj_Litei just know how to set it up on windows02:08
mister-teago to terminal or konsole and type lspci and give the specific model of your card02:10
mister-teaunless it's usb02:11
cuznt!d-link02:16
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about d-link02:16
cuzntdj it should do it automatically02:16
cuzntright click on the knetwork icon on your task manager02:17
cuzntand see if it shows any wifi02:17
cuzntif you do not see it02:17
cuznttry to turn the pc off unplug it and ensure it is seated properly02:18
cuzntive had more problems with wifi on xp than this kubuntu02:18
dr_willisrhineheart_m,  2 things to try.. one is look in the 'sessions' menu on kdm, and see if thers some failsafe session, or other window managers to try. if not You might want to install one as a test (sudo apt-get install fluxbox)  and try fluxbox,  also a potential test to try befor..02:19
dr_willisrhineheart_m,  go to the console, kill the kdm service, and try 'startx' command..02:19
dr_willisrhineheart_m,  it sounds almost like either a X server/driver issue.. or a some sort of kde config issue.02:19
rhineheart_mi tried /etc/init.d/kdm stop but after that the screen turns black02:20
dr_willisYou mean you tried 'startx' and the screen still went black?02:21
rhineheart_mlet me check it again.02:21
VistaUseromfg02:21
dr_willis!ohmy02:21
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.02:21
VistaUseri read more today then i do in 1 year at school02:21
dr_willis:)02:21
dr_willisreading is fun.02:21
VistaUserdepends on what u read02:22
dr_willisPorn. :P02:22
VistaUseri like tech stuff and money02:22
VistaUserlol u dont read porn u watch it02:22
rhineheart_mI have a doubt it was porn02:22
dr_willisOld-skool porn! printed images! of women who are actually attractive.. not new porn in which.. err.. i better stop now..02:23
dr_willis:P02:23
mister-tea!ot02:23
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!02:23
dr_willisthats proberly called 'art' now a days. :P02:23
rhineheart_mmister-tea, Thanks for the reminder :)02:23
mister-tea :-)02:24
VistaUserlol02:24
rhineheart_m!ot02:25
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!02:25
rhineheart_m:)02:26
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VistaUseranyone got a G1 or behold?02:31
jussio1!away > Num83rG0n302:32
ubottuNum83rG0n3, please see my private message02:32
bucketheadNo greeter widget plugin loaded <- Help??!02:33
* dr_willis has no idea what a 'greeter widget plugin' even is02:34
* buckethead concurs, Doctor.02:34
bucketheadI have to log into KDE via CLI.02:35
bucketheadShould I purge kdm-kde4? Would that do it?02:36
dr_willisProberly very little.02:36
dr_willistry 'sudo kdm' and see if any error messages show up?02:36
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bucketheadCommand Not Found.. KDM, KDM4, or KDM-KDE4.02:37
harolddongAll of the sudden I'm ot getting sound in the amarok 2 beta02:39
harolddongsound works everywhere else though02:39
szrhawaiidid you check your system sound driver02:39
szrhawaiisometimes mine defaults to a low setting02:39
szrhawaiiwhere it seems off buts its turned down02:39
* Secutor is away: Gone away for now.02:40
harolddongin system settings for sound all the submenus are blank02:46
harolddongis tha the way it supposed02:46
harolddongto be?02:46
harolddongin other there is nothing to change02:46
harolddong*in other words02:46
harolddongsystem sounds seem to work and I can play music with vlc and soungbird but amarok has no sound02:47
harolddongthis just strt tonight as far s I can tell02:48
cuznt!sound02:49
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP302:49
VistaUser!sudo02:51
ubottusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome), or !kdesudo (KDE)02:51
VistaUser!konsol02:51
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about konsol02:51
mister-tea!konsole02:52
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal02:52
RangerDuRiskhello02:52
szrhawaiijust gotta ask02:53
RangerDuRiskcan anybody can tell me how to install windows management and effect like "beryl"02:53
RangerDuRiskor emerald02:53
RangerDuRisksomeone talk me about emerald02:53
coreymon77anyone here watch lets play videos on youtube?02:53
mister-tea!emerald02:53
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about emerald02:53
RangerDuRiskk02:54
szrhawaii!beryl02:54
ubottuBeryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz02:54
RangerDuRiskcompiz02:54
szrhawaiiits not coming up on your synaptics02:54
RangerDuRiskgoes with ubuntu8.1002:54
mister-tea!compiz02:54
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion02:54
RangerDuRiskok02:54
dr_willisthere is no more beryl  :)02:54
szrhawaiithey kicked it out huh02:54
RangerDuRiskso02:55
szrhawaiithen load compiz-fusion ranger02:55
dr_willisNo.. it got assamlated.02:55
dr_willis;)02:55
RangerDuRiskit goes with gnome02:55
RangerDuRiskmatch02:55
szrhawaiidid you downloas compiz-fusion02:55
RangerDuRiskyes02:55
dr_willisand with kde4 - that gives kde its own alternatives to  compiz.02:55
szrhawaiiwhen i did it came with emerald02:55
dr_willissudo apt-get install emerald02:56
dr_willisand that will isntall it. :0 You may want the fusion-icon tool also.02:56
VistaUserdr_willis how i get to KDE4?02:56
szrhawaiiupgrade02:56
dr_willisVistaUser,  if you installed the latest kubuntu 8.10 you got kde402:56
VistaUserhow02:56
VistaUseroo kk02:56
VistaUserhow i get 4.2?02:56
dr_willissee any programs about menu item02:57
VistaUserme?02:57
dr_willis4.2 is in the backports repos I think..02:57
dr_willissee any programs about menu item --> shows your version #02:57
szrhawaiidoes anyone know what the command is to run cron02:57
VistaUserdr_willis is there a command to upgrade to KDE 4.2?02:58
dr_willisproberly is.. if its not allready in the normal repops.. enable backports.. and upgrade02:59
dr_willis!backports02:59
ubottuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging02:59
VistaUserok02:59
VistaUserdo u know package name?03:00
dr_willis'upgrade' after enabling the backports repo.. installed them for me03:00
VistaUserok03:01
harolddongso the 4.2 beta is ready now?03:03
harolddongits in the repos?03:03
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cuzntis there not a command you can shoot into the terminal to show what version is installed?03:04
szrhawaiianyone know the command to get to cron in terminal03:05
bucketheadI had to purge kdm-kde4 and install kdm to get intrepid to work for me.03:11
bucketheadIt was that dratted 'No greeter widget installed' thing.03:12
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estresubuntu-es03:17
estres#ubuntues03:17
estres#ubuntu-es03:17
estres#kubuntu-es03:18
harolddongto enable backports I just enable unsupported updates in adept right?03:18
harolddongbecause they are enabled and so far no 4.2 packages are showing up03:18
mister-teaestres:  join/kubuntu-es03:21
mister-teaestres: /join #kubuntu-es03:23
estresanybody know how to run google earth with wine03:26
estresI have installed google earth running the installation program with wine but the executable file not running after the installation03:27
RangerDuRiskremember me03:30
RangerDuRiskgot install compiz03:30
RangerDuRiskdans when cliking install desktop effect ...i got a error message : -error kdesudo command not found-03:31
BluesKajI haven't kept up on the video copy front lately ...what's the best dvd copy/rip app ?03:32
BluesKajnot having any luck at all with dvd:rip03:35
BluesKajestres there's a linux version of google earth03:35
loganWHDwhat do you think is the BEST back up program for Kubuntu03:41
braederi need some help. i am running ubuntu eee and want to get rid of the interface over my desktop. .. or how do i see my desktop?03:48
braeder<braeder> i need some help. i am running ubuntu eee and want to get rid of the interface over my desktop. .. or how do i see my desktop?03:49
_-Jay-_q04:15
harolddongso are the 4.2 packages supposed to be in the repos now?04:17
harolddongI was never clear on that earlier04:17
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goldmetali installed 8.10 via upgrade. my uname still says 2.6.24.19 , how to use new kernel?04:23
goldmetalhow to install cool theme?04:49
reanimationhi guys04:52
reanimation#ubuntu-i04:52
reanimation#ubuntu-in04:53
bazhang!themes04:54
ubottuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy04:54
bazhangoops04:55
manomanok, i just installed the updates adept told me to, rebooted, and now i get busybox04:58
manomankubuntu 8.1004:58
manomani added rootdelay=50 but still get dumped to busybox on inintramfs04:58
jsunioThis is not really important, but... how do I get a USB keyboard to work on my GRUB menu. I think my GRUB is maybe from Fedora?04:59
manomanrootdelay=200 gives same effect.05:00
manomanGave up waiting for root device.  Common problems:  blah blah05:00
manomanALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/886blahblah does not exist.  Dropping to a shell05:00
cyberponixI pulled a SATA HDD outof my old laptop before I sold it, now I can not get into the drive I know the ATA password however without the laptop I can not get to where I need to be to enter it. is there a way in konsle to do this?05:05
Colonel_Panichey, how can I check my x drivers?05:06
jsuniodrives have passwords?05:07
jsuniocyberponix: did you try mount ?05:09
jsuniomount /dev/sdb1 /media/olddrive        --(or whatever it's called)05:10
WahbeNhey all!05:11
rosco_yjsunio: drives have passwords?  Maybe you just need to be using admin privilegs...05:12
WahbeNSo I am currently downloading Kubuntu 8.10 iso. Is KDE 4.1 really that cool? Am I going to be at lost since I have been using Gnome for years now? How is KDE 4.1 runnning on not-so-hot machines? I have a dual core 1.6ghz (i think) 1 gb ram and intel based video card...05:13
WahbeNI want to have a prettier desktop with SVG-based widgets.. that's the main reason I want to switch05:14
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cyberponixMount does not work as it was apassword entered at startup before an OS or anything is graned05:15
cyberponixin BIOS first thing that happens whe a computer is booted up you can enter into setup by pressing f2 or whatever your computer has as its setup and set security to lock your computer up tighter than just what the OS offers05:17
jsuniocyberponix: You cant even get to the OS?05:18
jsuniocyberponix: you could try a live CD like damnsmalllinux or kubuntu live CD05:18
dabbuhow to add new widget ?05:19
dabbuany help05:20
cyberponixI tried all of that... I ever attempted to reformat said HDD but it is locked... I know the password however I can not get to a place where I can enter it05:20
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Colonel_Panichow do I update my NVIDIA GLX module?05:35
dabbuwhen i watch something over LAN kubuntu ill start downloading the whole file and after that it will play or show that file ....how to handle this >??05:40
Colonel_Panichow do I update my NVIDIA GLX module?05:47
goldmetalwhat is the definition of 8.10 vs 8.04? why i ask? i upgrade from 8.04. and kernel still runs the 2.6.old version05:52
mr---t-!nvidia05:54
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:54
chipbuddy i made a /home partition so i can reinstall the OS but not have to recover my home directory. this has worked great, however the extra users i created have not been pulled over. when i try to create a user with the desired home directory, it says that directory already exists05:54
mr---t-!8.1005:59
ubottuAlpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for K/ubuntu 8.10, due October 30th 2008 - #ubuntu+1 for discussion. Kubuntu Intrepid will have KDE 4 as the default Desktop Environment - see  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion | Warning lots of breaking software between now and October!05:59
cyberponixDoes anyone know of a toshiba laptop BIOS emulator?06:05
chipbuddyi just installed 8.10, and i had a bunch of choices for my file system. there must be pros and cons for the various types, but i can't really find any comprehensive authority on the matter.06:10
cyberponixpersonally I am sticking with 8.04 as I can not even get my 8.10 to go past the login screen... work good for a couple days then bam cant log in anymore06:14
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Colonel_Paniccan anybody help me with this driver problem?06:40
Num83rGuyI have been looking all day but I can't find the soultion to my problem with Ktorrent. I can't find anything about the "The process for the http://tracker.name.com protocol died unexpectedly." error I keep getting and I have had no luck building 3.2 beta 1.06:41
Colonel_Panicmy nvidia driver is an older version06:41
Colonel_Panicand I want to update to the latest one06:42
Num83rGuy <Colonel_Panic> What are you tring to do exactly again?06:42
Num83rGuyI have been in every direction with my nVidia card.06:43
Num83rGuyWhat card do you have?06:44
Num83rGuyAnd which version of (k)ubuntu ?06:45
Colonel_PanicI have an NVIDIA 8800 GTS06:45
Colonel_Panicand Hardy 8.0406:45
Num83rGuyAnd the driver you are using now?06:45
Colonel_PanicNVIDIA GLX Module  173.14.1206:46
Colonel_Panic177.82 is the latest stable version06:47
Num83rGuyI just updated to 180.08 the other day, I will tell you how I did that.06:47
Colonel_Panicok06:47
Num83rGuyHold on while I find nvidias driver page06:48
Num83rGuyI will give detailed instructions but basicly I un installed the drivers from the repo and did a manual install of the driver from nvidia.06:50
Tm_Term06:52
Tm_T!envy | Colonel_Panic06:52
ubottuColonel_Panic: envyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository (envyng-gtk OR envyng-qt) we suggest you use envyng if every other (official/supported) method fails! it can have various results from works, to fails!!!  if you want the very latest drivers from the manufacturer you use them at your own risk06:52
Tm_TNum83rGuy: see above06:52
Colonel_Panicthat's what I used to update my drivers, and it only got me as far as 173.14.1206:53
Colonel_PanicI want to update to at least 177.8206:53
Tm_Tyes, and envyng should do that06:53
Colonel_Panicbut it didn't, so that's why I'm asking for help, OK?06:54
Tm_Tsmells like it failed somehow06:55
Tm_T(as usual)06:55
Tm_Tand/or you cannot have newer driver in Hardy06:55
Tm_Tthat is possible too06:55
loganWHDanyone ever hear of the sound working UNTIL you plug headphones into the jack?06:57
Colonel_Panicothers have told me that 177.82 works for them06:58
loganWHDto me?06:58
Num83rGuyThis is the page to download 180.06 http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_180.06.html06:58
Colonel_PanicNum83rGuy: What Kubuntu version you running?07:01
Num83rGuyI just opened synaptic and purged the nvidia drivers and then hit ctrl+alt+F1 and typed "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" ( use sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop if you use kdm ) and then sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.06-pkg1.run07:02
Colonel_Panichow do you purge the nvidia drivers?07:03
robert__bonjour a tous :)07:04
Colonel_Panicdo you need to kill X?07:04
Brack10hello07:19
gustavohola07:34
ooglebutte!hi07:36
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:36
Brack10I'm trying to install Kubuntu 8.10 on a Dell OptiPlex GX260 with 512mb ram and a 40 gig IDE western digital hard drive.  It looks like the installer is detecting the HDD as a SCSI RAID...so when I go to install it freezes at "Scanning Mirror" and if I cancel the installation at that point it boots up to a corrupt install which doesn't work.  Any ideas what I can do about this?07:36
noaXesshow can i reconfigure the xserver?07:37
noaXesssudo dpkg-reconfigure ???07:37
ooglebutteBrack10: tried to install without the net connected?07:40
Brack10Not yet07:40
ooglebuttenoaXess: that'll get the basic setup07:40
Brack10so unplug ethernet07:40
noaXessooglebutte: i need to reconfigure the resolution.. wrong resolution07:41
micha_Please install the virtualbox-ose-modules package for your kernel, e.g. virtualbox-ose-modules-generic.. uname -a2.6.24-22-generic there is no package for virtualbox and my kernel ... ???07:42
ooglebuttenoaXess: I'm not sure3 how to do that with the new X - there might be a clue on the wiki -one min and I'll check07:42
ooglebutteBrack10: yep - try it with it unplugged07:45
micha_isn't there a ose-module for the 24.22 kernel for virtualbox07:47
ooglebuttenoaXess: try this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76627207:48
ooglebuttemicha_: is that the newest kernel?07:50
micha_ooglebutte: probably not07:51
ooglebuttemicha_: got another kernel hanging around you could use?07:52
micha_i am still on hardy because i don't like kde4 up to now07:53
ooglebuttemicha_: all I can suggest is you search for a kernel with the ose-modules available for it07:54
micha_yes looks like there are no mudules available for that kernel ???07:56
haffouff_please i nedd help  to configure my postfix. I want to send mails throught the internet08:04
psteynHi, how can I get Open Office 3.x installed?08:06
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micha_oo.org 3 is in debian experimental ... but i have no idea if you can mix the repros ... i normaly use debian ... psteyn08:10
micha_try downloading the .deb file08:11
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psteynthanks micha_ doing that08:16
Pie-ratei'm trying 64bit kubuntu, having always used ubuntu before. first thing i notice is amarok can't even play it's built in radio stations because it doesn't have codecs08:20
Pie-rateanyone help me with that?08:20
Pie-ratewhat's the package to get codecs for amarok?08:21
Pie-ratelatest info on help.ubuntu.com suggests installing kubuntu-restricted-extras, which doesn't seem to exist08:21
Pie-ratebut that's for 8.0408:22
Pie-rateok now it suddenly does exist, i must've mistyped it08:22
fleetcommandhm it's funny, i've found a blog which describes how to install oo.org 3.0 for kubuntu08:24
fleetcommandi add the repository for the software sources, but it doesn't appear for upgrading08:24
philsfI don't know what I did, but now every event I create in kontact is a groupware event, with me as atendee and organizer. Disabling groupware in the korganizer preferences doesn't stop this behavior. How can I disable this?08:25
Pie-ratewhy don't my back/forward mouse buttons work in konqueror?08:26
aftertafmornin' all08:38
aftertafanyone using 4.2 beta from project neon?08:39
aftertafanyone awake, even?08:43
aftertaf!vmware08:44
ubottuVMWare is not available in the Ubuntu repositories. Consider using !QEmu or !VirtualBox as alternatives. Instructions for installing VMWare manually are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware08:44
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tchdoes anyone know what the preferred method of modifying the kde3 colorscheme in intrepid is?08:51
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aftertafsorry, kde 3 is gone for me...08:53
symbiosyswho09:00
symbiosyshello09:00
symbiosysI haven't done IRC since I was a kid09:00
symbiosysthis is weird09:00
symbiosysanyway09:00
aftertaflol09:01
aftertafhi09:01
symbiosyshi09:01
symbiosysnew to ubuntu09:01
aftertafwelcome and well done: )09:01
symbiosysI'm online and my my network works09:01
symbiosysso I consider myself grateful09:01
symbiosysLOL09:01
ooglebuttehehe09:01
aftertafyeah ! ! !09:01
aftertafa good start (tm)09:02
philsfI don't know what I did, but now every event I create in kontact is a groupware event, with me as atendee and organizer. Disabling groupware in the korganizer preferences doesn't stop this behavior. How can I disable this?09:02
mblexsymbiosys ))09:02
aftertafany groupware packages installed?09:02
Pie-ratehow can i bind things to mouse buttons? for example, zoom out is bound to Meta+- by default, and i want it to be Meta+scrollwheeldown09:02
philsfsymbiosys: actually, I believe you are not lucky it worked, since it should work in most cases09:03
philsfaftertaf: like what?09:03
symbiosysOkay :-)09:04
symbiosysI'll take your word for it09:04
symbiosysIt's a lot different than my commodore vic 2009:04
Pie-ratehelp me not switch back to gnome by telling me how to use my mouse buttons to go back/forward in konqueror!09:07
Pie-rateamarok is unbelievably better than everything gnome has to offer for music.09:09
aftertafPie-rate: scroll up/own on muse? I thkn they are button 4 / 5 or sth like that.09:13
joe_i wanna be able to delate a folder but it wont let me it say's Access denide to /home/joe/.local/share/Trash/files/crystal-1.0.6.09:13
aftertafjoe_: and if u empty the trashcan? does that work?09:14
joe_nope the trashcan is already empty, there's nothing inside of it09:14
aftertafPie-rate: i wrote really bad there !!! :) the scrol on mouse i think are buttons also....09:15
Pie-rateaftertaf: the problem is it's not letting me bind desktop zoom (in system settings->desktop->desktop effects->all effects) to mouse scroll wheel09:15
aftertafdo u have a button 4 or 5 you can set manually?09:15
joe_can anyone help me out???09:16
aftertafjoe_: if u open trash:/ in konqueror?09:16
Pie-rateaftertaf: i don't know09:17
Pie-rateaftertaf: brb restarting X09:17
joe_same thing09:17
joe_it wont let me09:17
ooglebuttejoe_: in konsole type   sudo chown -Rv joe:joe /home/joe   where joe is your login name09:19
ooglebuttethen try to delete it09:19
joe_ok09:20
joe_what's the command line for it?09:21
ooglebutteyou may have used sudo to move that folder to trash so you don09:22
ooglebuttet own it09:22
joe_what's the rest of the command line after sudo chonw -Rv09:22
joe_???09:23
ooglebuttetells who you want to own it and what you want to own09:23
aftertafuser and group . . .09:23
aftertafwhen you ls -l a folder you see the owner and group09:23
ooglebutteif root owns anything that is your prob09:24
ooglebuttels -la09:24
joe_i'm confusde srry i don't know much about the command lines just yet i'm still try'n to get the hang of useing linux instead of window's and i have been useing linux for only about 2 to 3 week's09:25
aftertafooglebutte: ill let u help, 2 will cause confusion . . . .09:25
aftertaf;)09:25
ooglebuttejoe_: copy and paste the command and see if it works - it won't hurt anything09:25
salaf3salut09:26
joe_ok what's the command line???09:26
aftertafjoe_: what is your user name on your ubuntu system?09:26
ooglebuttejoe_: konsole is in   kmenu - system09:26
ooglebutte!shell09:27
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal09:27
joe_i don't know srry09:28
ooglebuttejoe_: kmenu is the   k   at bottom left09:29
ooglebutte!shell > joe_09:29
ubottujoe_, please see my private message09:29
aftertafjoe_: dont be afrais , its new, its daunting, but its not hard once u get past the fear :)09:31
* aftertaf needs a new keyboard . . . .09:31
joe_i'm srry i don't listen to bot's srry to say09:31
joe_^_^09:31
aftertafjoe_: the bot is a useful bot, with a lot of frequent questions anwsered09:31
joe_got it09:31
joe_what did u wanted to know?09:32
ooglebuttejoe_: in konsole type   sudo chown -Rv joe:joe /home/joe   where joe is your login name09:32
joe_i did sudo chown -Rv but what's the rest of the command line and my login name is different from my real name which is joe is my real name09:34
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ooglebuttesudo chown -Rv joe:joe /home/joe - but use your login name the joe09:36
ooglebutte* then09:36
newuserwhere can I find package maintainers for my project ?09:36
ooglebutte!motu09:36
ubottumotu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU09:36
newuserI want to get my s/w in the ubuntu repo09:36
joe_got it09:36
newuser:)09:36
newuser!ps09:36
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ps09:36
newuser!grep09:37
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal09:37
ooglebutte!messagethebot09:37
ubottuPlease investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".09:37
joe_ok it did something and now what???09:39
ooglebuttejoe_: try to delete the foder09:40
joe_did it and it worked09:40
ooglebutte:)09:40
joe_thnkx very much for a sec i thought i had a hacker09:40
joe_lol09:40
joe_^_^09:40
ooglebutteall's good then?09:40
joe_lol09:40
joe_yup yup yup  ^_^09:40
ooglebuttewell done09:41
joe_thnx09:41
joe_^_^09:41
ooglebuttenp09:41
joe_just one more thing09:41
ooglebutteshoot09:41
ooglebutte:)09:41
joe_how can i learn more about linux and do most of my own trouble shooting myself without haveing to ask anyone all the time???09:41
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ooglebutteI read these chats and have a testing box to experiment on - the are things like09:42
ooglebutte!!cli09:42
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal09:42
ooglebuttehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal09:43
joe_thnx09:43
joe_i'll give that a shot09:43
joe_^_^09:43
ooglebutteluck :)09:43
joe_i'll try09:43
joe_^_^09:43
ooglebutteit's a practise sort of thing - you'll only learn by having a go09:44
joe_and how long will it take someone to master the terminal???09:45
ooglebuttehow long is a piece of string - depends on the person and the time they devote to it mostly09:45
faileasa whole lifetime ;)09:45
faileashowever one learns what one needs to pretty quickly after a point09:46
joe_got it09:46
joe_^_^09:46
faileasand at some point, IRC becomes useless ;p09:46
ooglebutteman pages are good - in konsole type   man cp   to learn the cp command09:47
joe_ok09:48
ActionParsnipyo yo yo09:55
* ActionParsnip listens to the wind blow10:02
voicuwhy does a module still load if i put it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist?10:17
ActionParsnipvoicu: did you add the wrong name? did you put a carridge return on the end of the last module named?10:17
ooglebutteis it listed in /etc/modules?10:18
voiculsmod lists it right now, it's not mispelled and not at the end of the file10:18
voicuand there is a CR at the end10:18
ActionParsnipgood10:19
voicuis there some other way to stop a module from loading?10:19
voicuor anything else that configures module loading?10:20
nogagplzExcuse me good sirs, where would I go to sort out a problem with shipit? The order arrived, yet there was no disk in the sleeve10:20
ActionParsnipvoicu: you could always put a small script in ~/.kde/Autorun to rmmod the module (not vry graceful)10:20
ActionParsnipnogagplz: order another, if you can . Add a note to the request10:21
faileasya10:21
nogagplzokay, I'll try that. thanks ActionParsnip10:21
voicuok, let's try this differently, how do i change the driver a certain card uses?10:23
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voicuok, new approach: how can i change the driver a device uses?10:24
voicuin this case, the network card driver10:24
voicuhow can i find what options do i have?10:24
ooglebuttelspci would be my first start - then a google search for the module it "should" use10:25
voicuthanks ooglebutte, that's what i wanted :D10:27
ooglebutteluck :)10:27
voicuwhat would be the difference between an ethernet controller and a network controller?10:28
voicui have a wire card and a wireless card on the machine10:28
voicuethernet=wire, network=wireless?10:28
ooglebuttewhat does   ifconfig   return?10:29
voicunvm, found them :P10:29
ooglebuttehehe10:29
voicuok, cool so apparently i have a realtek r8101 card but the driver used is r816910:29
voicumodprobe r8101 says there is no such driver10:30
voicuis there a package i can install?10:30
ooglebutte!info  r8166910:30
ubottuPackage r81669 does not exist in intrepid10:30
voicu!info r816910:31
ubottuPackage r8169 does not exist in intrepid10:31
voicui'm guessing they're part of some driver package10:31
voicui  tried looking in aptitude but i'm not sure what i need10:32
ooglebuttetry the search button and ethernet10:33
ActionParsniptehnicaly a wireless connection has an ethernet address ;)10:34
voicuaptitude doesn't search through descriptions10:37
ooglebuttesynaptic ftw10:37
voicuadept only shows application, not all the packages10:37
voicuoh, synaptic10:37
ActionParsnipapt ftw :D10:37
ooglebuttehehe10:37
voicuhow do i search with apt? i don't want to pull all the gnome stuff10:38
voicuinternet connection is slow10:38
ooglebutteapt-cache search "package" - no sudo needed10:38
ActionParsnipapt-cache search <something>10:38
voicuok, thanks10:39
voicui still don't know what to look for, i tried ethernet, network, realtek, r8169, r8101...10:42
ooglebuttevoicu: try a google search   ubuntu r8169   and see10:43
ActionParsnipor try ask.com10:44
voicuyeah, already did that, i'm looking at the results10:45
ooglebutte:)10:45
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ubuntu__hi...10:49
ubuntu__bin neu... kann mir jemand installationshilfe geben?10:49
voicuubuntu__: try #kubuntu-de or #ubuntu-de10:51
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ooglebutte!de10:51
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:51
ubuntu__voicu: ok.thx10:51
ooglebuttexubuntu gets a mention too :)10:52
Heinzsee you!10:52
voicuhehe, yeah, i shouldn't dismiss xubuntu like that10:52
ActionParsnipxubuntu is awesome10:52
voicuis it possible that r8169 gets loaded because no other suitable module is found?10:53
voicui still don't get why /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist doesn't work10:53
ActionParsnipvoicu: id go for the rmmod script in ~/.kde/Autorun10:54
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ActionParsnipvoicu: until you can work out whats going on10:54
voicuactionparsnip: but that doesn't make the system load a different module for my card10:55
voicui can't do anything without an internet connection10:55
ActionParsnipvoicu: no, only unloads the one you want removing10:55
voicui want r8169 blacklisted and maybe it will load another driver10:55
ActionParsnipvoicu: you can use the packages on your install cd10:55
ActionParsnipvoicu: i doubt it10:55
ActionParsnipwhat is the lspci output for your network device?10:55
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voiculspci says it's a realtek r810110:56
voicuand there was a post on the ubuntu forums saying he/she solved the network problem by replacing r8169 with r810110:56
voicui think it's the same thing with my card10:56
voicuthere was no info on how he/she did that10:57
ActionParsnipthen try: sudo rmmod r8169; sudo modprobe r810110:58
ooglebutteyou can add it to /etc/modules and reboot maybe10:58
ActionParsniplooks like you need to compile your own: http://swik.net/Ubuntu/Planet+Ubuntu/Alessio+Treglia:+How+to+compile+r8168+and+r8101+modules+for+Realtek+ethernet+adapters10:58
ActionParsnipooglebutte: well this will test, if its good we will do that :D10:59
ooglebuttefor sure it's the way to go :)10:59
ActionParsnipheres another good looking post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84339810:59
voicuhuh11:05
voicunasty11:05
ActionParsnipsimple compile, not too hard11:05
voicuyeah but still, it seems too hackish just to change a network driver11:06
ActionParsnipvoicu: ubuntu doesnt ship with ALL drivers for ALL hardware so some must be compiled11:07
voicui guess so11:07
ActionParsnipits not hackish at all as the drivers are from the official servers of the hardware manufacturers, just that to hold or o ship the install CD with such an array of software is completely unfeasible11:07
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voicui know, this is why linux is great and why it sucks :P11:10
voicuwhat's the name of ubuntu 8.10?11:11
bazhang!ibex11:11
ubottuAlpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for K/ubuntu 8.10, due October 30th 2008 - #ubuntu+1 for discussion. Kubuntu Intrepid will have KDE 4 as the default Desktop Environment - see  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion | Warning lots of breaking software between now and October!11:11
ActionParsnipvoicu: yep, every OS sucks11:12
voicuok, ty11:13
ActionParsniphttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=251473068028347773411:17
ActionParsnipjust for the laughs11:18
voicucan't watch it, no flash player :P11:19
ActionParsnipyikes11:20
ActionParsnipmind you, if you dont need it you dont have to have it11:20
voicui try to go without flash as long as i can but at some point someone gives me a link on youtube that i have to wathc :D11:22
syockFor source packages with debian/patches directory, will dpkg-buildpackage apply the patches before building?11:22
ooglebutte!compile11:23
ubottuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)11:23
candanhi11:24
candanhow can i do avermedia a700 dvb card fix for ubuntu?11:25
voicuok, there was an error with the sources from realtek and i "fixed" them, wish me luck, rebooting11:32
ooglebutteluck :)11:34
candani need avermedia a700 dvb card driver for 810?11:35
ooglebuttethe mythtv wiki might give a clue11:36
maek0hey if I install KDE on my GNOME ubuntu install will it list all the KDE apps it installs on my GNOME applications menu ??11:43
Chiselhuk_Plus1Good morning oh knowledgeable  ones!!11:44
SlimeyPetewait, who?11:44
ActionParsnipmaek0: should do11:44
Chiselhuk_Plus1I appear to have a problem with Kopete. When it opens the KDE wallet service it's not recognising my password!11:44
ooglebuttemaek0: if it doesn't you could try   sudo update-menus11:45
Chiselhuk_Plus1Is there anyway we can over ride/change my KDE wallet password on command line?11:46
maek0ActionParsnip, ooglebutte well I would prefer it didn't list any KDE apps11:46
ActionParsnipooglebutte: gksudo for gui apps dude11:46
ActionParsnipmaek0: then edit your menus and remove the unwanted items (if they are present)11:47
ooglebutteActionParsnip: update-menus isn't gui...11:47
ActionParsnipoic11:47
ActionParsnipmy bad11:47
ooglebutte:)11:47
maek0ActionParsnip, ah !! lol didn't think of that ... and what happens to the system kde apps like adept ??11:48
voicuwhere can i find the sources of the realtek driver?11:48
maek0do they get listed ??11:48
ActionParsnipmaek0: depends how you installed stuff, it may be present11:49
ActionParsnipmaek0: dpkg -l | grep -i adept11:49
voicuthat is, where are the modules' sources unpacked?11:49
faileasvoicu: i suppose if its a open source driver probably the realtek website11:49
voicufaileas: i need the driver used by ubuntu because the one from the site doesn't work, maybe the ubuntu devs changed it11:50
voicu*site=realtek site11:50
maek0im thinking of installing kde 4.2 (via a thirdparty software source) on my GNOME ubuntu install ... I'm just a little worried that it will stuff up my main GNOME install11:50
tkstkahmm my sound card doesnt work11:59
tkstkaor at least I dont get any sound when browsing11:59
tkstkawhat do I do11:59
tkstka:c11:59
ActionParsniptkstka: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59098912:00
ActionParsniptkstka: http://www.arsgeek.com/2007/11/27/how-to-fix-no-sound-with-flashfirefox-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy/12:00
tkstkathx12:01
tkstkayou guys are always ready12:01
tkstkado you ever sleep?12:01
tkstka:)12:01
voicuhow do i remove a manually installed module?12:01
emonkeysleep, is that something to eat?12:01
ActionParsnipsudo rmmod (module name)12:02
voicuActionParsnip: is that permanent?12:02
ActionParsnipvoicu: nope12:02
voicuthen how do i remove it permanently?12:02
ActionParsnipvoicu: you'll need to delete it from the list in /etc/modules12:03
voicua, ok12:03
voicuActionParsnip: it's not there, actually there are 2 modules there only12:04
ActionParsnipyou can blacklist them but you said earlier that doesnt work12:04
ActionParsnipim not sure in intrepid what handles modules12:04
voicui don't get this, why do they keep changing these things?12:05
ActionParsnipvoicu: welcome to linux12:06
voicu... thanks :D12:07
tkstkahmm I have problem with the first code  mv ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf.old it says there is no such directory12:08
tkstkaor something12:08
tkstka:c12:08
ActionParsniptkstka: use tab to complete the name12:08
tkstkaok12:09
tkstkaI got my sound to work12:25
tkstkabut my volume is low :D:D:D12:25
tkstkavery low12:25
tkstkaeven thou I have all as hi I could put12:25
tkstka:C12:25
tkstkanow is there way to increse volume12:25
ActionParsniptkstka: are your speakers cranked up too?12:25
tkstkaI have headphones12:26
ActionParsniptkstka: and the app you are using, is its volume cranked12:26
tkstkaI have youtube hi12:26
tkstkaand my master volume12:26
ActionParsnipthe headphones plug into speakers at all?12:26
tkstkashould be12:26
ActionParsniptkstka: then turn that up too12:26
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ActionParsniptkstka: whatever the headphones atatch to, turn them up12:29
tkstkaI got little bit of volume12:30
tkstkabut everything is at max12:30
tkstkabut it's listeneble now12:30
ActionParsnipok well hang on that till you can work it out12:31
ActionParsnipcheck phones are fully plugged in12:32
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tkstkahmm is there any popup blocker for firefox?12:42
ActionParsniptkstka: its built in12:44
ActionParsniptkstka: some popups come through flash now12:44
tkstkaI've noticed12:47
tkstka:c12:47
sigma_oh how i wish for 4.2 packages:)12:48
ActionParsniptkstka: you can block flash in firefox til you explicitly allow it12:53
tkstkahmm.. I was just wondering is there away to block flash from certain pages12:57
tkstkaand not pages like youtube12:57
tkstkait's pain in the ass to go change it back on12:58
Tm_Ttkstka: adblock?12:58
DawnLighthello. i've the kubuntu kde 4.1.2 and kontact crashes part of the times after i start it and give it the wallet password. also when i press send on a message. the send issue is reproduceable. can i help some how? i don't program. and another thing is that i've been using debian etch and migrated my home directory to kubuntu intrepid so could this be the reason for crashes in kontact?12:59
DawnLighti've been advised in #kde to upgrade to 4.1.3. is this available in intrepid?13:00
DawnLightso apparently i can't send mail using kontact. it crashes after clicking the send button13:07
ActionParsnipTm_T: the same, it rules13:08
Tm_TActionParsnip: ?13:09
ActionParsnipTm_T: adblock is te app13:09
Tm_TActionParsnip: builtin in Konqueror <313:10
bazhangflashblock13:10
bazhangnot adblock13:10
ActionParsnipTm_T: i dont use it13:10
Tm_TI do13:10
ActionParsnipTm_T: konqueror13:10
ActionParsnipTm_T: firefox / opera and yakuake are all my browsing / file management needs :)13:11
Tm_TActionParsnip: and I don't use those myself, except firefox in some cases13:11
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faileasyakuake is awesome13:12
ActionParsnipshabba13:12
Tm_Tbut not for everyone, anyway, drifting to offtopic (;)13:12
ActionParsniplil bit13:12
ActionParsnipofftopic-513:12
flashpungting tong13:16
cuzntbong!13:17
ActionParsnipive watched scrubs too much, hence offtopic-513:18
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jinohi13:21
Tm_Thi hi13:21
jinowhats this13:21
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tkstka_give me some good player equal to winamp13:55
tkstka_in ubuntu/kubuntu13:55
ActionParsnip!player13:56
ubottuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs13:56
ActionParsnip!winamp13:56
ubottuwinamp is a windows music player. On Ubuntu you can use beep-media-player or xmms as alternative.13:56
tkstka_ya13:56
tkstka_xmms13:56
tkstka_it was13:56
tkstka_I forgot the name13:56
tkstka_thx13:56
ActionParsnip!xmms13:57
ubottuxmms is no longer being developed, see http://bugs.debian.org/461309 for more details.  Consider using audacious, bmpx, or xmms2 instead.13:57
francisc1701hi, how can I modify the action associated with a shortcut key? I want Ctrl+Alt+L to lock the screen and switch it off (xset dpms force off)14:01
francisc1701by the way, i'm using kde314:03
ActionParsnip!keybaord14:04
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about keybaord14:04
ActionParsnip!shortcut14:04
ubottukeyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts14:04
tkstka_This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or14:04
tkstka_is only available from another source14:04
tkstka_E: Package xmms has no installation candidat14:04
ActionParsnip!xmms | tkstka_14:05
ubottutkstka_: xmms is no longer being developed, see http://bugs.debian.org/461309 for more details.  Consider using audacious, bmpx, or xmms2 instead.14:05
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tkstka_one more question14:10
tkstka_if us didnt work14:11
tkstka_it was sudo something14:11
tkstka_?14:11
tkstka_when you try to access root14:11
ActionParsniptkstka_: sudo gives you the same access as root14:13
tkstka_but I need to type the password14:14
tkstka_first14:14
tkstka_I need the command14:14
tkstka_equal to su14:14
ActionParsnipsudo -i14:14
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tkstka_hmm I tried to open xmms2 by typing sudo xmms214:15
tkstka_then I tried typing sudo start xmms214:15
ActionParsniptkstka_: no, you need to use: sudo apt-get install xmms214:15
tkstka_yes14:16
ActionParsniptkstka_: to install it14:16
tkstka_I've installed14:16
tkstka_it already14:16
ActionParsnipthen just type xmm and press tab14:16
ActionParsnipit will complete the command name for you14:16
tkstka_yes it gives me nice list14:16
ActionParsnipthe launcher will also be in your menu14:16
tkstka_no it's not14:16
tkstka_or not in the multimedia section with other players14:17
tkstka_:C14:17
ActionParsnipthen try: xmms2 &14:17
tkstka_:o14:18
tkstka_didnt do anything14:18
ActionParsnipwhat options do you get with xmm and press tab14:18
tkstka_play for example14:19
tkstka_tartup failed!14:19
tkstka_ERROR: Could not connect to xmms2d: xmms2d is not running.14:19
ActionParsnipthen sudo apt-get install xmms2d14:19
tkstka_;o14:19
tkstka_again14:19
tkstka_what is that d14:20
ActionParsnipdaemon14:20
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tkstka_now I did it14:20
tkstka_I tried14:20
tkstka_to open14:21
tkstka_I mean start14:21
tkstka_but it didnt work14:21
ActionParsnipso what does xmms2 & say now?14:21
tkstka_there were unknown options14:22
tkstka_aborting14:22
ActionParsniphmmm, id use something like amarok, it has a great library function14:22
ValentineXXkubuntu minimum system requirements?14:36
Tm_TValentineXX: some cpu, 256 MB ram (less works too, but not too nice) and some gigs of HD14:37
ActionParsnipValentineXX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements14:37
ValentineXXTm_T:  TmT :'(14:37
Tm_Tusually network connection, mouse, keyboard and monitor are good to have, but not required14:37
ValentineXX384 MB of system memory (RAM)  i got to add 256more to have a total 51214:39
ActionParsnipValentineXX: ram is cheeeeeap14:40
ValentineXXActionParsnip: yup yup but i am lazy to go out to shop :P i usually stay at home14:40
Tm_TActionParsnip: not for everyone14:40
ActionParsnipyou can get 1Gb for 10GBP14:40
aaroncampbellI finally rebooted after the last kernel update, and I'm having serious boot issues.  Every time I try to boot, I get an error that says that it got tired of waiting for the root drive UUID 96e25bd1-8f48-478f-8eb0-9c00efce96b614:40
ActionParsnipValentineXX: order in :)14:40
aaroncampbellAny idea what's up with that?14:40
Tm_TActionParsnip: like, I don't have hardware that supports anything higher than DDR114:41
ValentineXXActionParsnip: not that cheap for me, me is a student have to buy with my own pocket money14:41
sancho21__How to install prerelease 64bit adobe flash 10? I got only a .so file14:41
marty__hi ....14:42
marty__where i can find skype?14:42
ActionParsnipsancho21__: put it in ~/.mozilla/plugins14:42
ValentineXXHow to install kubuntu now in xubuntu?14:42
marty__or how i install it14:42
marty__?14:42
faileasmarty__: skype web page has a deb. alternately i THINK adding the medibuntu repos would allow you to install it14:42
Tm_T!skype | marty__14:42
ubottumarty__: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto14:42
Tm_TValentineXX: install kubuntu-desktop metapackage14:43
faileasValentineXX: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop14:43
ActionParsnipsancho21__: here's what I used: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/install-flash-10-ubuntu-linux-64bit.html14:43
ValentineXXTm_T: what is metapackage?14:43
Tm_TValentineXX: package containing nothing but nice dependencies14:43
marty__thx, a lot14:44
ValentineXXTm_T: i will install full14:44
Tm_TValentineXX: that's what it does (:)14:44
francisc1701aaroncampbell: the new kernel gets a wrong root in /boot/grub/menu.lst14:45
aaroncampbellfrancisc1701: how can I fix it?  It looks like it's going to boot on the older kernel14:46
francisc1701aaroncampbell: just curious -- are you using hardy ?14:46
ValentineXXrich_: hi buy me a ram14:47
marty__faileas: sorry i am new with kbuntu... where i can add the medibuntu repros?14:47
Tm_Tmarty__: did you read what ubottu mentioned?14:47
ValentineXXmarty__: i am new to linux :D what is medibuntu :14:48
Tm_T!medibuntu | ValentineXX14:48
aaroncampbellfrancisc1701: ibex14:48
ubottuValentineXX: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org14:48
BluesKajHiyas14:48
marty__thx14:48
eboneYou know what makes me happy?  .... apt.14:50
ValentineXXStaying in irc can give me a lot of knowledge daily :D14:51
ValentineXXebone: what is apt?14:51
eboneI just set up a fresh new system, from an old debian system.14:51
ebone"man apt-get"14:51
ebone"man apt-cache"14:51
manishhey milos, u there, got a new problem today... want to install a usplash theme i have downloaded, it says cd into the directory and then press sudo make install and reboot. I  did  that but now dont even have the default usplash sceen coming up .. please help14:51
eboneman apt14:51
ebone;)14:51
francisc1701aaroncampbell: me -- hardy; anyway, open /boot/grub/menu.lst and check the new kernel's "root" parameter. it looks like "root=UUID=..."14:51
eboneIt's a console package management system.14:51
eboneYou can upgrade your entire system using it.14:52
francisc1701aaroncampbell: compare that with the old kernel's root parameter -- most likely they will differ14:52
manishgenii, want to install a usplash theme i have downloaded, it says cd into the directory and then press sudo make install and reboot. I  did  that but now dont even have the default usplash sceen coming up .. please help14:52
Tm_Tebone: we know, why all this advertising?14:52
eboneValentineXX asked me what it was.14:52
Tm_Tebone: "man foo" isn't an answer here usually (:)14:53
ebonewell, "man apt" can tell him a lot more about it than I can in a couple of minutes here on IRC.  ;)14:53
manishTm_T, can you help  me solve my prob. I have typed it just moments ago ....14:53
Tm_Tmanish: sorry, don't know about usplash14:54
snakefaceSo is 8.10 slow or what?  I keep hearing this.14:54
eboneHey... what are the other package management options?14:54
eboneWhy on Earth would it be slow?14:54
eboneCrappy kernel compile or something?14:55
snakefacelook have you seen the news14:55
snakefacepeople are upset14:55
manishebone, please if you know what should i do then help me with this. want to install a usplash theme i have downloaded, it says cd into the directory and then press sudo make install and reboot. I  did  that but now dont even have the default usplash sceen coming up .. please help14:55
manishthanks Tm_T14:55
snakefacesaying it is not properly integrated with kde 414:55
Tm_Tsnakeface: not here14:55
ebonehmm14:55
eboneDid you do "make install" from a command prompt?14:56
snakefacei am just trying to figre out whether or not to install it.  you guys are happy with it?14:56
Tm_Tsnakeface: as in, all is fine here, that's very, how would I say, shooting in the dark without more precise example or so14:56
snakefaceno issues?14:56
snakefacekde4 is fast?14:56
ebonemanish: I don't know much about these splash themes.  Is this a KDE thing?14:56
Tm_Tsnakeface: I'm very happy, only very minor issues14:56
snakefaceokay.14:56
ActionParsnipsnakeface: its supposed to use less ram than kde3.514:56
ActionParsnipsnakeface: its a bit twitchy14:56
Tm_Tebone: no, it's fancy stuff in boot before X or stuff14:56
ebonemanish: Try opening the make file in vi or something and seeing what it actually does.  Make sure it gets copied to the right spot, etc.14:56
manishebone i guess not ,,, but i dont know to be sure14:57
eboneahh.14:57
eboneTm_T: Is it a grub thing?14:57
ActionParsnipsnakeface: runs pretty well with fluxbox instead of kwin14:57
snakefaceI have usually used kubuntu, but lately people have been saying opensuse is faster14:57
Tm_Tebone: after grub (:)14:57
Tm_T!usplash | ebone14:57
eboneI see.14:57
ubottuebone: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork14:57
ActionParsnipsnakeface: depends on config entirely14:57
manishactually to be frank i i am a new bie and dont know which file should go where ..14:57
geniimanish: I am having a problem with irc client that I am trying to sort out, I will not be of much help right now14:57
ebonemanish: well, the makefile is just a text file. Open that puppy up in a text editor and just take a peek.14:58
manishhey ActionParsnip u back after a long time... Thanks genii. will catch up later on...14:58
manishya am doing it right now14:58
Tm_Tebone: if he don't know about those things, prolly he has no idea what he should look, I guess?14:58
eboneyeah. probably so.14:59
manishActionParsnip would you like to take a sneakpeak into the problem14:59
eboneHey Tm_T ... what are the pacakge management options on Kubuntu?  On the GUI end there is Aptitude?  On the console end... apt and synaptic, correct.  Anything else?14:59
manishTm_T too true but i have been experimenting a lot these days .... want to learn stuff so... i am trying to guess what things mean14:59
manishebone adept15:00
eboneadept. that's right. thanks.15:00
manishsynaptic is for ubuntu i mean gnome15:00
eboneIs there a console synaptic?15:00
Tm_Tebone: Adept, wajig (my favourite) kpackage if you are insane15:00
manishnope15:00
eboneohh. thanks.15:00
ebonewajig?15:00
eboneIs that KDE?15:00
eboneSo, which is insane? Kpackage or wajig?15:01
ActionParsnipmanish: ask the room15:01
eboneHow about Adept?  Is it decent enough?15:01
manishok ebone cant see if there is ne thing i can understand would you like to have a look at the make file...15:02
eboneCan you post it up somewhere?15:02
eboneSo... from the console, apt is still the tool of choice I suppose?15:02
manishActionParsnip there are only two people participating and both of them have absolutely no idea of the prob and genii is busy with her IRC client so was asking you15:03
vbgunzI'd like to be the first to ask about 4.2. whats the scoop in regards to Kubuntu?15:03
manishebone should i on pastebin.ubuntu.com15:03
Tm_Tebone: Kpackage, not nice, wajig is mostly commandline, wrapper for apt and stuff15:03
eboneI see.  Sounds like apt is the way to go on commandline still.15:03
eboneIs Adept any good?15:03
ActionParsnipmanish: what do you wanna know?15:04
eboneHe needs help with some sort of splash screen.15:04
eboneCan you help him?15:04
ActionParsnipebone: same sort of deal, id use what you are comfortable with15:04
ActionParsnip!splash15:04
ubottuTo change your KDE splash screen go to KMenu -> System Settings -> Splash Screen15:04
ActionParsnip!usplash15:04
eboneI just got my system up.15:04
ubottuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork15:04
vbgunz!4.215:04
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about 4.215:04
vbgunz!caterpillar15:05
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about caterpillar15:05
ActionParsnipvbgunz: what do you need to know about 4.2?15:05
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vbgunzActionParsnip: if there is an easy way to simply apt-get upgrade to it15:06
manishActionParsnip:   want to install a usplash theme i have downloaded, it says cd into the directory and then press sudo make install and reboot. I  did  that but now dont even have the default usplash sceen coming up .. please help15:06
sancho21__ActionParsnip, not that one. I want to install prerelease 64 version of adobe flash 10 player. It is said I won't need greedy nspluginwrapper anymore15:06
manishhere is the paste bin link for the make file  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/78799/15:06
ActionParsnipvbgunz: you'd have to find a repo with it on, its an early alpha right now and will be shakier than 4.115:07
ActionParsnipsancho21__: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/install-flash-10-ubuntu-linux-64bit.html15:07
ActionParsnipsancho21__: runs 64bit flash15:08
sancho21__But the script installs the nspluginwrapper15:08
sancho21__That's the trouble maker15:08
ActionParsnipsancho21__: hmm15:09
ActionParsnipmaybe it neds it for sound or something15:09
manishSo ActionParsnip i have the folder downloaded and all the files in place i just dont know why is it not working15:09
ActionParsnipmanish: why what isnt working?15:10
ActionParsnipmanish: ive not played with splash screens, i think they are redundant15:11
sancho21__ActionParsnip: Look at this http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.d20.7.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz15:11
ActionParsnipsancho21__: then copy the so to ~/.mozilla/plugins15:12
manishActionParsnip its not the splash screen i am talking about ... I am asking you about usplash15:15
manishi have lost my default usplash too because of that make file15:15
manishhello ActionParsnip can you read me15:18
sancho21__ActionParsnip: Other so files is not put there.15:19
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sancho21__I tried, but failed15:21
ActionParsnipsancho21__: you need to make the ~/.mozilla/plugin folder, then put it in there15:23
ActionParsnipmanish: ive no idea man, sorry15:23
sancho21__I did15:24
manishok then i will not bother you again with that ActionParsnip thanks any ways15:24
ActionParsnipsancho21__: check the plugins in about:plugins15:27
sancho21__ActionParsnip, I think I know why. May be later, I'll post how to do this on my blog15:29
sancho21__thanks anyway15:29
ActionParsnipawesome15:30
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jojo__hola15:47
jojo__hola alguien por ahi15:48
jojo__¿?15:48
Tm_T!br | jojo__15:48
ubottujojo__: Por favor use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.15:48
aaroncampbellfrancisc1701: are you still around?15:52
francisc1701aaroncampbell: yeah, still here15:53
aaroncampbellfrancisc1701: I finally got time, and checked my grub config...all the UUIDs are the same.  Any idea why booting to the new kernel gives me the error that it can't find it?15:53
aaroncampbellAgain, I'm on Intrepid15:53
francisc1701aaroncampbell: if they are all the same then run "sudo blkid" and see what uuid is assigned to your root partition15:54
aaroncampbellSame15:55
aaroncampbellfrancisc1701: I do know that in order to make things work, I always have to change hd(0,0) to hd(1,0) in grub ...15:56
aaroncampbellIs this maybe an extension of that problem?15:56
ldifhello15:56
francisc1701aaroncampbell: dunno; see if that uuid is listed in /dev/disk/by-uuid15:57
aaroncampbellfrancisc1701: yep, it's a link to ../../sda115:57
francisc1701aaroncampbell: you only have to change hd(0,0) to hd(1,0) if your kubuntu is installed on the second hard drive -- is that the case?15:59
francisc1701aaroncampbell: have you googled the exact error message you get?16:00
francisc1701aaroncampbell: does your old kernel boot?16:01
sancho21__ActionParsnip: As I said before, here is the page to install prerelease native 64bit version of flash player in Hardy: http://michsan.blogspot.com/2008/12/installing-alpha-version-of-64-bit.html Just want to share to people who got the same problem16:04
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kubuntu_anyone can help me recowering my root password16:18
SlimeyPeteroot? you set up a root account?16:19
kubuntu_when i start concole and write su, and it asks for password ?16:19
kubuntu_*cosole16:19
faileas!su16:19
ubottusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome), or !kdesudo (KDE)16:19
genii-aroundkubuntu_: Root acount in (K)ubuntu are disabled by default. Don't use su16:19
SlimeyPetekubuntu_: there is no root account by default16:19
faileaskubuntu_: use sudo and the password for the first account you created16:20
genii-aroundfaileas: Thanks :)16:20
kubuntu_so if i will install .bin file in terminal i write sudo -i (name of the file)?16:26
kubuntu_or what?16:26
kubuntu_-i16:27
francisc1701kubuntu_: whatever command you need to run with root privileges you prefix with sudo: "sudo blkid" or "sudo umount /dev/sda216:28
ValentineXXI installed kubuntu when i try to login i get there is error in kdestartconfig pls check your installation. something like this. then i cannot login16:28
loganWHDso on my dell 9400 lappie, i have Kubuntu 8.10... took me a week to get it runnin right... now i have sound... but when i plug in a headset or mic the jacks dont work16:29
loganWHDany idea?16:29
faileasloganWHD: intel sound?16:29
loganWHDyah16:29
faileas!hda16:30
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about hda16:30
faileaserf16:30
loganWHDhda yah16:30
faileasits a known issue. i just can't remember what's the trigger16:30
faileas!intel16:30
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about intel16:30
bazhang!hdaintel16:30
ubottuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto16:30
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loganWHDnah16:31
loganWHDbeen there16:31
loganWHDtook hours did everything there16:31
loganWHDmy sound is working16:31
faileasyeah that >_>16:31
loganWHDjust not my headphone jack16:31
ValentineXXI installed kubuntu when i try to login i get there is error in kdestartconfig pls check your installation. something like this.16:32
ValentineXXbrb16:33
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blizzzin which package is the monitor-settings-module for systemsettings placed? i need to remove it i guess :-/16:38
loganWHDanyone know the name of the control panel type thing where you see sound settings, display settings etc?16:40
loganWHDi need to install it16:40
Nece228kubuntu 8.10 desktop randomly freezes, i cant do anythink exept mouse pointer moves, this happens when i have enabled desktop effects i have ati radeon 960016:43
Nece228when i have compiz enabled this doesnt happens, this happens only with kwin16:43
Nece228anyone know solution?16:44
Nece228plz plz plz plz help me!!!!16:44
Nece228also when i used hardy with kde 4.1 i didnt notice that problem, so maybe its new xorg fault?16:45
jeremy___Hi16:46
jeremy___I have a few questions about the Ubuntu flavour of linux that I installed via Wabu on a hard drive partition in a dual boot16:46
Nece228help me!!!!!!!!16:46
jeremy___If somebody could please assist me to solve these difficulties I would be very grateful16:46
faileaswubi16:47
faileasshoot away. don't ask to ask ;)16:47
jeremy___Yes, OK, sory16:47
jeremy___Well, first off16:47
jeremy___I am very new to the linux system, and I would like to know if there were any possible way that I could dual-boot FreeBSD, as I've heard from friends that it is the most beginner-friendly flavour of linux, along wit hmy previously installed OS windows vista16:48
Nece228and why kubuntu 8.10 dont boots every third time?16:48
loganWHDNece228: if u find rthe answer to the freezing let me know16:49
loganWHDcause happens to me all the time16:49
jeremy___Faileas, do you have any suggestions or advice?16:49
ReiseiHi2All!16:49
noaXesswhat the h.. is this blinking caps-lock problem? is that really a kernel panic?.. where can i get this panic log entrie?16:49
genii-aroundjeremy___: FreeBSD is an entirely different animal than Kubuntu Linux. You might want to ask somewhere they know about FreeBSD...it uses a different bootloader system, disk partitioning system and packaging system than most linux as well.16:50
noaXesssonce friday my nobeook runs ok.. 24h per day.. now.. boom.. caps lock blinking and all is freezed16:50
Nece228loganWHD: ok, but i dont thing that ill fould solution16:50
Nece228loganWHD: *think16:50
loganWHDyah16:51
faileasjeremy___: it isn't linux, and in my experience freebsd is not easy to install16:51
jeremy___OK well then I guess I would like to stick to kubuntu16:51
jeremy___So, now on to my other questions16:51
genii-aroundjeremy___: I recommend visiting channel ##freebsd to learn more about freebsd16:51
jeremy___I have a problem opening up executable files16:51
faileaser..16:51
faileaslike .exe executable files?16:51
jeremy___Yes16:51
Nece228loganWHD: so still you are using system which randomly freezes?16:51
faileasyou need wine for those, even then its not certain it will work16:52
faileas.exe = windows files16:52
BluesKajdunno why one woukd want freebsd and kubuntu on the same machine ..one or the other , but not both16:52
jeremy___I see16:52
loganWHDyah16:52
jeremy___Well I guess that explains it then!16:52
faileasBluesKaj: i considered it at one point ;p16:52
loganWHDi upgraded to 8.1016:52
loganWHDand not too happy16:52
jeremy___Next up:16:52
jeremy___I want to set up an IRC server, which is the main reason for switching it linux16:53
Nece228loganWHD: when i disable effects or use compiz instead of kwin i dont notice that problem16:53
jeremy___I'm not quite sure how I might go about doing this16:53
faileasjeremy___: there's some in the repos, though most people use unreal + anope.16:53
jeremy___I have the unreal 3.2.7 already extracted onto my drive16:54
faileaswhich requires compiling, but its a good learning experience16:54
jeremy___But the tutorials I've read tell me to type commands, where I have no idea to type16:54
loganWHDNece228:  here is the problem i have.... 8.10 was so horrible i formatted and installed something called mini.iso16:54
faileasjeremy___: you also need the build essential package, then you can compile and run it16:54
faileasjeremy___: total newbie?16:54
loganWHDit is the 8.10 system but with NOTHING in it16:54
jeremy___Yes, very16:54
loganWHDso i have to add things as i go....16:54
loganWHDi do not know the name of the "control panel" type thing where i go to disable effects16:55
jeremy___Oh I do16:55
jeremy___right click on the desktop16:55
faileasjeremy___: it should be something called 'konsole'. i recommend getting a package called yakuake though- its a drop down console16:55
jeremy___And where would I get this16:55
jeremy___And why?16:55
jeremy___I have something called "terminal"16:56
jeremy___That's what I've been wondering if they're referring to THAT to type commands16:56
loganWHDalt-get install konsole16:56
faileasjeremy___: terminal does the same. its wierd, i thought terminal was for ubuntu, and konsole is for kubuntu16:56
faileasboth are terminal emulators16:56
jeremy___I have ubuntu16:56
faileasjeremy___: i assumed you had kubuntu ;p16:56
Reiseiyou need gnome-terminal, i think.16:57
faileasyeah type em in terminal16:57
Reiseiif you have kubuntu, the use konsole.16:57
Reisei*then16:57
jeremy___OK so now, I have an extracted directory labeled IRCD on my user called jeremy16:57
jeremy___and it's telling me to type a command that it doesn't recognize16:57
faileasjeremy___: you need to install build-essential16:58
faileassudo apt-get install build-essential16:58
faileasthen try ./configure and such16:58
jeremy___E: Couldn't find package build-essential16:59
faileaser16:59
faileasthats odd17:00
faileasmine has it17:00
loganWHDme too17:00
jeremy___sudo apt-get install build-essential17:01
jeremy___that's what I typed17:01
jeremy___any errors?17:01
Picijeremy___: What is the output of  uname -a ?17:01
faileasmine already has it installed17:01
jeremy___Linux ubuntu 2.6.27-7-generic #1 SMP Fri Oct 24 06:42:44 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux17:01
chfwiggumhi all17:04
Picijeremy___: Is this a new install?17:04
chfwiggumive  4 .rar packages that belong together-right now ark is extracting them one by one-how do i change that?tia17:06
loganWHDARRGGHHHHHH17:12
loganWHDanother crash17:12
loganWHDjust freezes17:12
loganWHDthis is getting really old and annoying17:12
loganWHDi loose so much when that happens17:12
loganWHDi really hope they fix this like TODAY!!!!17:13
loganWHDgoing thru a reinstall is so annoying right now17:14
edi_99Hi guys. I don't know what to do anymore. I cannot figure out how to get sound out of my laptop (HP 6830s). Headphones work but speakers don't. I have tried almost everything... What should I do?17:14
loganWHDhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto17:15
jeremy___...17:16
jeremy___Faileas17:16
jeremy___Excuse me17:16
jeremy___Hello?17:16
jeremy___Please can somebody help!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?17:16
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jeremy___?17:17
jeremy___?17:17
jeremy___???17:17
JontheEchidna!flood17:17
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)17:17
jeremy___??17:17
jeremy___?//17:17
loganWHDsheez somoen kick him17:17
edi_99loganWHD: I've tried that17:17
edi_99loganWHD: nothing17:18
loganWHDyah it is bugy17:18
loganWHDterrible17:18
loganWHDtook me like a week to get my sound running on my dell 940017:18
edi_99I'm trying for a month now...17:18
loganWHDand when i did, i dont know what the hell it was cause i tried all of it like 10 times17:18
loganWHDi am seriously considering going back to earlier kubuntu or17:18
loganWHDto gentoo or something else17:18
loganWHDthe problems here are ridiculous17:19
loganWHDits the little things17:19
edi_99well... I have to say that I really like the new 8.10, just this thing with the sound is driving me crazy..17:19
loganWHDsound, mic, headphones, dispplay issues, it freezes all the time, crashes17:20
loganWHDi have had more problems than i can count17:21
wesley_Will kubuntu bring kde4.2 beta out ?17:25
ubuntu_hello17:29
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martin_hello17:39
martin_anyone able to remote into ubuntu distro and control a dvd burner17:40
martin_anyone every remote login17:42
edi_99Hi, how should I get php to work?17:43
ValentineXXcould not start kstartupconfig4. Check your installation17:45
ValentineXX:(17:46
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ValentineXXcould not start kstartupconfig4. Check your installation17:49
ValentineXX:D17:49
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ValentineXXcould not start kstartupconfig4. Check your installation17:56
ValentineXX:'(17:56
ValentineXX:((17:56
Kovertk3b issue?17:57
Kovertcdrecord17:57
Kovert-----------------------17:57
Kovert/usr/bin/wodim: Operation not permitted. Warning: Cannot raise RLIMIT_MEMLOCK limits.17:57
martin_i am trying to login remotely to a kubuntu machine and copy a data dvd using k3b and a usb connected dvd burner18:01
Kovertcdrecord18:01
Kovert-----------------------18:01
Kovert/usr/bin/wodim: Operation not permitted. Warning: Cannot raise RLIMIT_MEMLOCK limits.18:01
Kovertany one know how toy fix this?18:01
s2rIs there any troubleshooting page for mice problems in kubuntu?18:02
XP_HzHas anyone tried to run the 8.10 Live CD and gotten an INITRAMFS prompt?18:03
tkstka_are there any free 3d games for ubuntu?18:08
tkstka_I mean fps18:08
tkstka_or some car games18:08
tkstka_:)18:08
trappisttkstka_: not speicifically for ubuntu, but there are linux ports of lots of good games, and quite a few so-so linux native games18:09
tkstka_hmm18:09
tkstka_well some names18:09
trappistyou have quake, UT, doom3, quite a few others18:09
tkstka_hmm I used to play UT..18:09
tkstka_is there UT318:09
tkstka_action quake 218:10
tkstka_was my specialty18:10
tkstka_but I dont think that's in linux18:10
martin_but some ports just don't work unless you find somebody that can help you edit files and know exactly what the problem is18:10
trappistno the linux port of ut3 still isn't out - if action quake 2 is an addon, it should work in linux18:10
martin_i have mythII and can not get it working with kubuntu18:11
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tkstka_:C18:11
tkstka_cs:s18:11
trappistthen there's a list of wine options, including ye olde wine, that lengthen the list18:11
tkstka_it's only for steam18:11
enefishola18:11
trappistcedega gives you a really decent list18:12
tkstka_is there any majour fps drop if I play fps game with cadega18:16
tkstka_?18:16
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francisc1701is k3b supposed to read dvds this slow? at about 1x ?18:18
rwjaehnkewww.gmx.de18:18
Kovertfrancisc1701: no18:19
francisc1701so what could I do about this?18:19
VistaUserhey18:28
rwjaehnkewww.spiegel.de18:28
Tm_Trwjaehnke: o   k18:28
Mojo_risinlately my network fails after some time, until i do a 'networking restart'. somebody with the same problem?18:28
legateCan someone explain this to me? Whenever I want to go to a new page in Firefox, a small window appears that blocks Firefox. When I double-click on it it maximizes and it turns out to be a about:blank Firefox window. I'm not able to access new pages.18:29
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legateOh, and when I open a new Firefox instance it is one with the Mac OS X logo in the top left corner. Very annoying.18:31
marty__!skype18:32
ubottuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto18:32
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SteBo!KDE4.218:33
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about KDE4.218:33
SteBo!KDE 4.218:33
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about KDE 4.218:33
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SteBohi!any news concerning KDE 4.2b1 packages for Kubuntu 8.10?18:34
dr_willisI imagine when they are ready they are ready. :)18:35
JontheEchidnaSteBo: should be coming in over the next few days18:35
snikker is possible to redirect a console error to a gui interface (ex. kdialog --msgbox "$error") ?18:36
dr_willissnikker,  in theory yes. :)18:36
dr_willisdepeing on how the error is being genrated.18:36
SteBoJontheEchidna: thanks for the info. :-)18:36
snikkerdr_willis: how?18:37
dr_williscreative bash  ussage of the commands and the use of $() most likely18:38
dr_williswhat exactly are you trying to do with what commands?18:38
dr_willisLinux is like Legos. :) you build up the little bits to do what you want.18:38
VistaUserhey dr_willis18:39
dr_willishowdy.18:40
dr_willisbbl - gotta run wife to the store.18:40
VistaUserok18:40
snikkerdr_willis: for example if a want read, write or delete a file with script (and i've don't have permission) it should show an error (on gui inteface)18:41
martin_anyone able to control a dvd burner on a remote kubuntu box18:54
HeManHi! Is there any kde3 repos for intrepid or do I need to install an older version of kubuntu?18:56
sigma20what is the proper command to logout of kde and then shutdown? i want to make a script18:57
PhilRodsigma20: 3 or 4?18:58
sigma20PhilRod: kde418:59
martin_brb18:59
PhilRodsigma20: not sure if it still works in kde 4, but there's: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-workspace/kdm/advanced-topics.html#command-sockets19:00
Barackusehail19:01
sigma20PhilRod: im on a mobile. could you just type me the command please?19:02
nafionhi all. im running kubuntu intrepid and cant get my SB Audigy LS card to work. it worked at first, but stopped after a kernel upgrade. im running the snd_ca0106 module, which i believe is default for my card, but would be ok with reverting back to an old emu10kx module. could someone help me through the reversion process or offer any other help? thx! :)19:02
BarackuseI have a quick question regarding LAMP instalation on 8.10, I know that the server version gives the option to install it during the basic installation.  But how would I install it in the Desktop version?19:02
sigma20!lamp19:03
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)19:03
jschallwhat's the best version of the nvidia drivers to use for the desktop effects?19:03
sigma20177.8019:03
jschalli'm using those, and i'm getting a bunch of weirdness19:04
sigma20but its a tad bit buggy on kde4. may wana try the 180 beta19:04
jschallcan i get those from the repos?19:04
sigma20nope have to compile19:05
jschalloh19:05
PhilRodsigma20: something like this, I think: "kdmctl shutdown halt forcenow"19:05
PhilRodyou might need to sudo it19:05
sigma20think the final 180 is due in december though19:05
jschallnext problem: why can't i use my mouse back/forward buttons in konqueror to go back/forward? i'm about to flip out and kill someone over this19:05
jschalli'm really really really used to those buttons19:05
sigma20PhilRod: but will that logout properly?19:06
jschallall the binding interface things in kde seem to be keys ONLY19:06
Barackusesigma20: Thanks Sigma, however I already stated that I knew all of that info.  I was just looking for an easy sudo command line that would apt-get the package and install it.19:06
sigma20prob will be fixed in jaunty19:07
sigma20look at help.ubuntu.com for the command. its in the server guide19:07
\Kirahow can I boot into the kubuntu live cd without graphics? I just want a terminal19:07
jschallapart from this ONE issue with mouse buttons i'm really really loving kde, how do i bind mouse buttons to things like back/forward in konqueror, or bind meta+scroll to zoom?19:08
Barackusesigma20: Checking that now19:08
jimmy51_homewhatever the latest adept updates were, they hosed my system19:09
jimmy51_homei couldn't even boot, it kept saying it couldn't find UUID whatever19:10
jimmy51_homei had to edit my menu.lst to point directly to /dev/sda1, and add a rootdelay=5019:10
jimmy51_homethen, X server was crashing on load with my nvidia drivers19:10
jimmy51_homei had to go back to the previous kernel19:11
jimmy51_homeis this common?19:11
jimmy51_home(with this update)19:11
tp123joing #ubuntu-ru19:13
lovelyI am having a Problem, I no longer have root access at all...19:15
lovely:~$ sudo apt-get update19:15
lovelysudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0664, should be 044019:15
VistaUser#vista19:16
lovelyI am useing the latest upgrades for hardy on a 3.2 ghz w/ 4 gig of ram19:17
lovelyand have been trying to get mythtv to work for a week or so.19:17
HeManany ideas on how to revert to an ubuntu that has kde3 from intrepid?19:22
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brian____hey all19:24
brian____#ubuntu is real noisey and im using kubuntu anyway19:25
brian____i cant seem to get flash working here19:25
brian____ive done it a million times, even a few on identical hardware19:25
brian____for whatever reason this one wont accept it.  be it the .deb for ubuntu, the tar.gz manual install, or in adept19:26
VistaUsercan u dual boot with ubuntu first then vista?19:27
tkstka_ok.. I have a problem.. All the programs and webpages dont save passwords19:28
tkstka_so I have to check then everytime I try to logon19:28
ikoniaVistaUser: you can bu tit's easier the other way around19:28
ikonia"but it's"19:28
tkstka_is there some program that remembers passwords for you19:28
tkstka_so you dont have to go check email19:29
ikoniakeychain19:29
VistaUserbut i am right now straight up kubuntu19:29
ikoniaVistaUser: then install vista, then re-install grub19:29
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VistaUserso just go right over kubuntu?19:30
ikoniaVistaUser: no, install vista in a different partition, then just replace the boot loader with grub19:30
ikonia!grub > VistaUser19:30
ubottuVistaUser, please see my private message19:30
brian____can anyone give me some pointers...  i have no idea why on this specific system flash install wont take19:30
ikoniabrian____: how are you installing flash ?19:30
VistaUserooo kk19:30
brian____ikonia: ive tried the tar.gz manual method, ive tried the .deb, and most recently ive tried via adept19:31
ikoniabrian____: right, so thats probably a big part that you'll have different version mix/matched19:31
ikoniabrian____: I suggest you install the package "flashplugin-nonfree" and see how that works19:32
brian____ikonia: before i tried the other versions i tried only the tar.gz which would alwayus work...  ok ill try that19:32
ikoniabrian____: if your having a problem, work one method through, don't try random things as it makes it harder to clean up19:32
ikoniabrian____: the tar.gz is not the supported method19:32
brian____ikonia: i should delete ~/.mozilla?19:32
BarackuseI have to admit, Ubuntu 8.10 installs very nicely on Virtual Box over XP19:32
ikoniabrian____:no, as the tar file can put a global library on19:32
ikoniabrian____: depends where you installed it19:32
brian____ikonia: into every users home19:33
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BarackuseNow if I can only get it to answer my incomming web requests, I'll be all set.  ugh19:33
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brian____not that this ever works but im gonna try a reboot...  ive purged mozilla and the regular 'flash-plugin'...  when i come back im gonna try to reinstall firefox and use the flash-nonfree19:35
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brian____ikonia: but you dont think i should delete the .mozilla dir in my users' home dir?19:35
brian____ok restarting19:36
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brian___ikonia: so you would advised to reinstall ff and then install flash-nonfree19:39
brian___ok here we go19:40
brian___that worked19:41
brian___thansk19:41
florinhello all!19:42
florinI have a problem with my kubuntu ...19:43
florinhow I can make kubuntu to write on ntfs partitions? I saw that ubuntu could do that but kubuntu can`t19:44
Barackusej/19:44
Barackusej/@cisco19:44
Cimmo!ntfs19:44
ubottuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE19:44
Cimmo!NTFS-3g19:44
ubottuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions19:44
florinhow to install ?19:45
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Cimmoflorin: install ntfs-config19:45
Cimmofrom adept19:45
florinI installed and  it doesn't work19:47
Cimmorun via console and paste output to paste.ubuntu.com19:47
francisc1701!fuse19:48
ubottuFUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems19:48
florinhow I run it from console?19:48
florinsudo apt-get install ntfs-config for install19:49
florin?19:49
Cimmoflorin as already said: install it via adept19:49
Cimmodid you read it?19:50
florinyes and I installed it19:50
Cimmook so open a console and type: sudo ntfs-config19:50
Cimmopaste output to:19:50
Cimmo!paste19:50
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)19:50
loganWHDi have a dell 9400, it has those keys on the front that control volume and stuff... anyone get those working in 8.10?19:51
loganWHDor the headphone / mic jacks working in 8.10?19:51
florinthanks19:51
florinnow it works19:51
Cimmogood19:52
florinbut in console appeared some errors when i ran that sudo command19:52
florinsudo ntfs-config19:53
florinX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16719:53
florin  Major opcode:  14419:53
florin  Minor opcode:  319:53
florin  Resource id:  0x019:53
florinFailed to open device19:53
florinX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16719:53
florin  Major opcode:  14419:53
florin  Minor opcode:  319:53
florin  Resource id:  0x019:53
florinFailed to open device19:53
florinflorin@florin-desktop:~$19:53
florinwhat are those?19:53
florinI am afraid of errors when I reboot19:53
martin_ i am trying to login remotely to a kubuntu machine and copy a data dvd using k3b and a usb connected dvd burner19:53
Phlogiwhats the best way to get openoffice3 into my kubuntu?19:55
loganWHDapt-get install openoffice19:55
Cimmoflorin: seems you do not read what I write, I told you to use pastebin19:55
PhlogiloganWHD: openoffice3 damn19:57
CimmologanWHD: kubuntu 8.10 has OO 2.4.119:58
loganWHDoops19:58
CimmoPhlogi: http://www.intilinux.com/howto/1066/openoffice-3-su-ubuntu-intrepid-ibex-810-repository/19:59
Cimmoit's in Italian, but quite understandable :)19:59
Phlogiit should be at least in english20:00
Cimmothe post is in Italian, but OO is in all langs20:00
Cimmogo ahead20:00
isildurciao a tutti20:01
isildur!italia20:02
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about italia20:02
Cimmo!it20:02
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)20:02
isildur!it20:02
isildurtnx20:02
duffydhi, has anyone had issues with the cisco vpn client and the fglrx driver and their computer freezing?20:03
duffydsay when connecting to a vpn site and then passing a lot of data down the pipe and 'preso' frozen pc?20:03
florin!paste20:03
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)20:03
duffydand I mean completely frozen20:03
florinwhat games works on linux?20:04
florinkubuntu?20:04
duffydflorin: lots if you're using codeweavers wine app :)20:04
Ramblurris it possible to have multiple installations of different gcc versions?20:04
CimmoRamblurr: yes just open adept and search for gcc20:05
Cimmothere are plenty of them20:05
florinand how I install the 3d drivers?20:05
RamblurrCimmo: ah i see, you can install them separately thanks20:05
florinati linux drivers ?20:05
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JontheEchidnaYou should be able to activate the drivers from the restricted drivers manager in the System submenu20:06
florinI have kubuntu20:07
florinand in system I did not find restricted drivers manager20:07
florinhow to install ?20:07
Cimmoflorin: K-> system -> Hardware driver manager20:08
Cimmoprobably they are already installed20:08
RamblurrCimmo:  there are older versions of gcc, but not g++.. specifically I'm looking for g+++ 3.420:10
CimmoRamblurr: you asked for gcc :P20:11
Ramblurrheh yea i know :(20:11
CimmoRamblurr: anyway under 8.04 I have g++ 3.4 as well20:12
Ramblurr8.10 doesn't appear to have it20:12
Cimmog++-3.420:12
Cimmolet me check20:12
Cimmoyou're right, seems they have removed20:13
Cimmoinstall ubuntu 8.04 :)20:13
Ramblurrbah20:13
Ramblurrhah20:13
Ramblurr:P20:13
jschalleverything keeps crashing on me20:15
jschalladept, konqueror20:15
Cimmocover yourself20:16
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acemo!kde 4.220:30
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kde 4.220:30
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killermachI'm looking for a tool which will do a "search the whole hard drive for duplicate files", I need it to check the md5sum for all files or something reliable like that20:38
killermachlooks like komparator will do.. anyone  have comments on using it?20:43
tkstka_hmm I have a problem20:47
tkstka_again20:47
tkstka_:C20:47
tkstka_I typed dc usr/bin20:48
tkstka_when I tried to type cd usr/bin20:48
loganWHDi have a dell 9400, it has those keys on the front that control volume and stuff... anyone get those working in 8.10?20:48
loganWHDor the headphone / mic jacks working in 8.10?20:48
galaadno sorry20:49
tkstka_dc: Will not attempt to process directory usr/bin/20:49
tkstka_what does that mean?20:49
tkstka_:o20:49
PhilRodtkstka_: dc is a command-line calculator20:49
PhilRod(see 'man dc')20:49
galaadI've a question about security of Kubuntu/ubuntu20:49
tkstka_so how do I reverse that command?20:49
tkstka_or do I need to?20:49
PhilRodtkstka_: no, the command didn't do anything20:50
tkstka_ok20:50
tkstka_I was just wondering why it sayd that20:50
tkstka_:D20:50
galaadWhen I add the command "rw init=/bin/bas" on the line "kernel" of my grub20:50
galaadI boot on the root's bash20:50
galaadwithout the keyword20:51
galaadwhy?20:51
purpleposeidonI can't update amarok-kde4. It is held back, when I try to install "install amarok-kde4" it says "amarok-kde4: Depends: kdelibs5 (>= 4:4.1.3) but 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu11 is to be installed"20:52
purpleposeidonAnd also "E: Broken packages"20:52
galaadI think means that the package on your server is dead20:52
galaadno answer for my security's question?20:57
tkstka_ok now a real problem.. I'm installing steam trough wine.. But it doesnt install it stays at 0% is this normal20:58
tkstka_Hope there is any steamers20:58
tkstka_out there20:58
tkstka_with some time to help20:58
tkstka_:)20:58
galaadEmulation doesn't run anytime on Linux20:59
galaadSo... Try again?20:59
tkstka_ok20:59
tkstka_now it worked20:59
tkstka_thx20:59
galaaddr ;)20:59
tkstka_soon I can start shooting headshots21:00
tkstka_look out interwebs!!21:00
levidosplease, help:   when i plug into my notebook my external speakers, the internal ones won't mute...21:01
[GuS]hi... guys, will kde4.2beta be available in any repos? or ppa?21:10
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JontheEchidna[GuS]: yes21:12
[GuS]ok, thanks JontheEchidna21:13
JontheEchidnaThey should be up in a ppa in the next day or so21:13
[GuS]great =)21:14
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CoggzIm having a problem with gtkpod. On ubuntu 8.10 it freezes for ~10secs every time i click something... please help21:25
jschallprograms keep crashing on me, especially konqueror, dolphin, adept.21:28
jschallfound a repeatable one, going to applications:/ in konqueror and clicking anything will crash it with signal 6 (SIGABRT)21:29
JontheEchidnajschall: the applications:/ crash was fixed in KDE 4.1.321:31
antonio_hello21:31
jschallJontheEchidna: oh. well that's not what kubuntu is using.21:31
JontheEchidnajschall: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.321:31
JontheEchidnayou can upgrade, see the link\21:32
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antonio_qualche italiano21:32
antonio_?21:32
JontheEchidna!it21:33
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)21:33
jschallJontheEchidna: ok, thanks. apart from that, i've managed to crash dolphin and adept in the first few hours of kde use, which leads me to believe there's something wrong with the whole install.21:33
jschallJontheEchidna: what should i do about that?21:34
JontheEchidnahmm, I don't know. How did adept crash? We haven't really been getting many reports of that crashign21:34
jschallJontheEchidna: when i tried to update it was crashing left and right and eventually ended up telling me to restart, and then it kernel paniced when i booted, so i had to boot with the older kernel and do dpkg --configure -a to fix apt21:35
JontheEchidnao.o21:35
jschallJontheEchidna: i think it decided it was done before it actually was21:35
jschallJontheEchidna: or something21:36
jschallJontheEchidna: i'm thinking maybe i should just reinstall the whole OS21:36
SJrXWhy does the back of the Kubuntu CD Package say that it's ideal for servers21:37
dr_willisjschall,  i think its kde4 thats just flakey. not the whole os. :P21:37
jschalldr_willis: maybe i'll go back to gnome then21:37
dr_willisSJrX,  why not. ;)  It can do servers..21:37
dr_willisjschall,  i got both installed.. every so often i try out kde4 again.. then go back tp my JWM+rox-filer setup21:37
SJrXWho doesn't love the KDE 4.1 and X lying around21:37
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tkstka_I accidently...21:38
dr_willisI can honestly say..i dont care for kde4.21:38
tkstka_:D21:38
SJrXme too21:38
tkstka_I accidently took away my toolbar from the bottom21:39
SJrXKDE 4 seems to have made a right turn for idiot land.21:39
tkstka_:C21:39
tkstka_what do I do21:39
tkstka_?21:39
tkstka_I need it21:39
jschalldr_willis: i can honestly say i think kde4 look beautiful and is generally very well done, except for 1. crashing, and 2. binding mouse buttons is impossible.21:39
tkstka_I'm not hardcore enough to play with the console21:39
tkstka_alone21:39
SJrXKDE 4.1 is too iniovative...21:40
SJrXtkstka_ try restarting KDE?21:40
jschallinnovative?21:40
tkstka_how?21:40
tkstka_I'll do what ever you say me to do:)21:40
SJrXtkstka_ CTRL+ALT+BKSP after you've closed everything is an easy way21:40
SJrXhe should have read the entire thing.21:40
jschallyou should really logout before you ctrlaltbksp21:41
_gunni_jschall: The crashes are innovative compared to 3.5 :)21:41
SJrXHe couldn't find his toolbar21:41
dr_willisjschall,  i get constant video 'curuption' glitzes and its amazingly sluggish on my laptop.. as for look..  I dont really think it looks that great.. but i perfer nice clean/clear  GUI's i dont need gradients/animations/so forth..I should be able to instantly see what i need. :)21:41
SJrXI get those too actually, dr_willis, with my nvidia 7400 Go. But more importantly I find that there are alot less options than in KDE 3.5. It seemed that everything you wanted to do, could be done in KDE 3.421:41
SJrX3.5*21:42
_gunni_But i love it anyway21:42
SJrXANd now they have these things where your Desktop is nothing more than a wallpaper21:42
jschalldr_willis: i think kde does the compositing very well, i do get a few glitches but i assume it's a driver problem.21:42
dr_willisthe whole 'desktop is a folder/garbage dump' has gottenout of hand..    I like how rox-filer handles the desktop with its pinboard feature21:42
v6lurwhich package gives the magic ability of file previews of ODF files in konqueror?21:43
Colonel_1hey21:43
v6lurright now they only show the icon21:43
jschalldr_willis: the ONLY things keeping me from switching to kde are: crashes and binding things to mouse buttons. that's it.21:43
killermachok.. well komparator has crashed 2 times.. any suggestions on another duplicate file locator app to use?21:43
v6lurpreviews are enabled for everything21:43
SJrXHmmmm dr_willis I have a recursive set of folders on my desktop called "Old Desktop"21:44
SJrXthat contain over 12 levels of old desktops.21:44
SJrXGoing back to 200321:44
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jschalldr_willis: binding things to mouse buttons doesn't seem like such a big deal, but it is. i can probably get around it by binding the mouse buttons to keys and then binding the keys, so that just leaves crashing.21:45
Colonel_Panichow can I upgrade from Hardy to Intrepid using the command line?21:45
v6lurand for example previews of PDF files are shown nice21:45
SJrXColonel_Panic I Think it's system-update-manager21:45
Colonel_PanicI need to change the sources first, right?21:45
SJrXNO!21:45
Colonel_PanicOK ok...21:45
Colonel_Panicsorry21:45
Colonel_Panicwhat to do then?21:45
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SJrXhttp://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading21:46
SJrXTry "Network Upgrade for Ubuntu Servers"21:46
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v6luranyone?21:46
jschalldr_willis: kde4 does compositing better than compiz+gnome by far21:47
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SJrXjschall do you have KOFfice installed, would be my guess21:48
v6lur(kde3 & hardy)21:48
jschallSJrX: koffice?21:48
dr_willisjschall,  i disable compiz anyway :)21:48
SJrXerrrr sorry v6lur I think you need koffice21:48
somethingcleverhey im using Kubuntu 8.10, how do i set up my networked printer its a brother fax 4100 hooked up to my windows machien21:48
alec_hello..21:48
dr_willisthres like 3 'features' in compiz i actually like and use som,e times21:48
jschalldr_willis: so do i, but that's just because the default config sucks and it crashes all the damn time.21:49
alec_I am new to the Linux community, I just installed 8.10 last night. I love it21:49
v6lurah, ok. that would even make sense21:49
somethingcleveralec_ glad to hear it, i installed a few years ago and i hae never gone back21:49
v6lurthanks, SJrX21:50
Colonel_Panicit's telling me 'no new release found'21:50
bluestylehello 2all new here too21:50
somethingcleveralecc_ i dont even know how to work a windows machine very well anymore21:50
alec_haha really?21:50
Colonel_Panicmy video drivers are all eff'd up21:50
bluestyledoes anyone know how can make my 5.1 sound play all together21:50
alec_I feel like this is how computing should be.21:50
bluestyleonly the 3 plays?21:50
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Rhey21:51
Colonel_PanicI'm at a cli right now, trying to fix it because I can't startx21:51
Ru okii21:51
R?21:51
somethingclevercan anyone help me set up my printer?21:51
Ryes21:51
SJrXHey tkstka did that work?21:51
tkstkawell yes in a way21:51
tkstkabut I accidently whole toolbar21:52
tkstka:C21:52
RHELLO21:52
Ri cant download msn how do i  it just wont work21:52
SJrXUm...21:52
alec_I do have a question. Is there a program for ubuntu that allows you to sync music to your ipod? Or do I have to run itunes with wine?21:52
SJrXThis is #kubuntu21:52
tkstkais there a way to reinstall it so it would make all the changes default21:53
tkstkaor can get the default changes by some command?21:53
SJrXtkstka you should be able to fix it, but you'll probably want to ask in #KDE21:53
jschallR: are you using kubuntu?21:53
bluestyler:use pudgin and you gonna have msn on your kde21:53
Colonel_Panicalec_: check out gtkpod21:53
alec_alright, does it have a library feture21:53
Rthanks21:53
somethingcleveralec_ use either Songbird or Rythmbox or Amarok21:54
somethingcleverall very good alternatives to Itunes21:54
alec_and they all sync with the ipod?21:54
somethingcleverwith its eyes closed21:54
somethingcleverits great21:54
jschallnot to ipod touch or iphone, though21:54
Colonel_Panicyamipod is also pretty great21:54
Rwat is kubuntu21:54
R?21:55
BluesKajsomethingclever, look in the kicker /system/printers21:55
Colonel_Panicyou can copy songs to or from your ipod with ease21:55
alec_alrighty, thank you very much. I will proley be back throughout the day with more questions.21:55
jschallR: go to kubuntu.com21:55
profanephobiakgrubeditor keeps crashing when I try to start it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/79000/21:55
Rjschall: y21:55
somethingcleverhow to set up printing in Kubuntu?21:56
valterhello all, i want to install apache and mysql on my computer, help me please21:56
bluestylehow can i download sl in kubuntu?21:56
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BluesKajsomethingclever, kmenu/applications/system/Printing21:56
dwidmann_IIIIIIIIII have a strange sound problem.21:57
Rim on kubuntu.com wat now21:57
somethingcleverBluesKaj: thanks21:57
tkstkathey said to remove the config files...21:57
tkstkahow do I do that21:57
tkstkaso noob21:57
tkstkaI'm windows user21:57
tkstkaso I really am in a deepwaters21:57
tkstkahere21:57
BluesKaj!enter21:57
Rhow do i download messenger life21:57
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!21:57
Colonel_Paniccan anyone kelp me with tnis video driver issue I have?21:58
profanephobiakgrubeditor keeps crashing when I try to start it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/79000/21:58
R????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/21:58
valter i want to install apache and mysql on my computer, help me please21:58
Colonel_PanicR: Keep it up and you're gonna get kicked21:58
dwidmann_When logged into KDE4 I have no sound on this computer .... with the exception being that the login and logout sounds playing. While logged in I can't get sound at all, not even from things like speaker-test21:58
BluesKajR , have you heard of google-linux21:58
Ry es but when i try to downlove it dont workad messenger li21:59
R^^^^ thts 2 u21:59
BluesKajdwidmann, could be aminor oversight like not using alsa in system settings/sound21:59
Rim stuck help22:00
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robynhelp me please22:01
dwidmann_BluesKaj: there is no such option for that (anymore) ... with regards to it, there's a bunch of things related to the primary sound card (listed towards the top), and somewhere down on the bottom the integrated sound and pulseaudio22:02
robynhow do you download msn22:02
robyn?22:02
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Roh dont worry ill find some one better to tell me22:03
Rloj22:03
dwidmann_hmm, I have an idea, I'll be back in a few22:04
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bluestylehow can i download sl in kubuntu?22:04
loganWHDi have a dell 9400, it has those keys on the front that control volume and stuff... anyone get those working in 8.10?22:05
loganWHDor the headphone / mic jacks working in 8.10?22:05
PhilRodbluestyle: sudo apt-get install sl22:05
eduardohi22:06
profanephobiakgrubeditor keeps crashing when I try to start it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/79000/22:06
Colonel_2can somebody please help me with this?22:06
jussi01!ask | Colonel_222:06
ubottuColonel_2: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)22:06
Colonel_2yeah I've already asked 3 times22:07
jschallodd, searching your name i only see the last minute22:07
jussi01Colonel_2: I dont seeyour question in recent scrollback...22:08
jschalljussi01: he DCed22:08
Colonel_PanicI'm unable to get to a GUI on my main machine so I'm forced to use this laptop which has issues connecting wirelessly22:08
Colonel_Panicso I keep getting disconnected22:08
Colonel_PanicI need to get this nvidia driver issue sorted out22:09
jussi01Colonel_Panic: are you the same as Colonel_222:09
bluestylehow can i fix the sound in 8.1022:11
Colonel_Paniccan somebody please help me with this?22:11
bluestyle?22:11
Colonel_PanicI'm thinking that if I upgrade to Intrepid, the driver issue will be fixed22:11
Colonel_Panicbut I can't get to a GUI to be able to edit my /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades file22:12
Colonel_Panicshould I use VI or what?22:12
loganWHDwow i know it is free software and all22:14
loganWHDbut sheez this sucks22:14
loganWHDthat has to be the 10th time today i just froze for no reason22:14
loganWHDand lost work22:14
io__#italia22:14
familyBluesKaj: yep, thought so, just had to blacklist the internal ... ah well, I'm going to bed.22:16
profanephobiakgrubeditor keeps crashing when I try to start it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/79000/22:18
andreashi22:18
andreasanybody from Greece?22:18
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dr_willisloganWHD,   kde4 is very much a work in progress it seems  to me.22:25
dr_willisloganWHD,  try some other desktop perhaps. they may be more stable22:25
loganWHDyah22:26
loganWHDi am dling 8.0422:26
dr_willisYou could just install some other desktop on 8.1022:26
dr_willis and then test out kde4 as it gets updated every month or so - see if it starts working better.22:27
loganWHDtrue22:27
dr_willisand yes.. kde3 repos are in the works.. i hear.22:27
XN1ghtXHello everyone, I need some help, for some weird reason I can't establish an internet connection on Kubuntu 8.10, can anyone help me out ?22:28
BluesKajwhat kind og internet service , XN1ghtX , DSL, cable , dialup ?22:30
BluesKajof22:30
XN1ghtXBluesKaj, a pppoe connection22:30
goldmetalhow to use kde network manager instead of gnome network manager?22:30
DeviantPeerhi all! anyone knows where the choice of style (widgets) is stored? in which config file?22:33
BluesKajXN1ghtX, that's pretty std software setup, but what is the pppoe working with , a DSL modem /router / cable /dialup modem ?22:33
XN1ghtXBluesKaj, I'm using a long range wifi dish that could probably be compared to DSL22:34
BluesKajaha that explains the pppoe instaed of ethernet22:36
XN1ghtXBluesKaj, so any idea on how to proceed ?22:38
BluesKajXN1ghtX, I'm not sure , but try ifconfig in the terminal and see what results ...you can post the first 3 lines here without any probs22:40
XN1ghtXok, i'll be right back in a few, talking to you via another os...22:41
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Semidiosso I just installed Kubuntu after spending a lot of time with Ubuntu.  Got almost everything fixed, but I am having trouble when I right click on anything (and tooltips) there are no words, just a blank menu.  if I move over the menu really fast I can see the words flash and dissappear.22:46
mateuszsiemka22:47
mateuszhay22:47
mateusz:)22:47
trampelSemidios: it's just a wild thought, but maybe your current 'theme' has your font color and menu background color set to the same value ...?22:48
Semidiostrampel, i doubt that is the issue only because the tooltips have a yellow background and the menus are gray22:50
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trampelSemidios: my tooltips are that same color scheme, but my right-click menu is a different color scheme, so they must be set via different resources [shrug]22:52
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|Berserk|quit22:55
enmasseguys22:59
enmassehow do i add tons of servers to konversation?22:59
dr_willismight be easier to find a web site with 'tons of servers listed' to explore23:01
vbgunzdoes Kubuntu have a brainstorm site?23:05
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dalecan anyone read this/ I just installed this 8.04 OS23:15
szrhawaiiread what23:16
yaccWhat's the way to upgrade 8.04 to 8.10?23:16
daleTY...23:16
szrhawaiiupgrade through your package manager23:16
yaccadept does not offer me to upgrade the release?23:17
szrhawaiiit should23:17
szrhawaiimine does23:17
szrhawaiiits up in the top right hand corner its a blue button that says upgrade23:17
Cimmo!intrepid23:18
szrhawaiihave you updated your adept ever23:18
ubottuAlpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for K/ubuntu 8.10, due October 30th 2008 - #ubuntu+1 for discussion. Kubuntu Intrepid will have KDE 4 as the default Desktop Environment - see  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion | Warning lots of breaking software between now and October!23:18
yaccszrhawaii, my hardy is completely up-to-date.23:18
Cimmoadept doesn't offer update anymore23:19
yaccCimmo, so how do I do it?23:19
szrhawaiimine has it23:19
szrhawaiii just havent done it23:19
Cimmohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu23:19
szrhawaiii prefer the older version better23:19
szrhawaiishe can go to terminal and do the sudo apt-update23:19
yaccCimmo, thx, now let's hope my laptop survives it :)23:21
Cimmoyacc: honestly I do not like kde 4.123:21
szrhawaiimake sure you download an iso and burn a cd just in case23:21
CimmoI will wait for 4.223:21
Cimmo4.1 really sucks23:21
szrhawaiii will wait til there down working the bugs out23:21
msnbotHello how can I install Kdevelop documentationsHello how can I install Kdevelop documentations23:22
msnbothow can I install manual for cpp. like man string.hhow can I install manual for cpp. like man string.h23:22
yaccCimmo, Well, if it sucks to much, I'll probably rotate desktop environment yet another time, ...23:22
dr_willischexck the package manager - seeif theres a kdevlop doc.23:22
yaccI think next in the periodic env change queue is ion3 ;)23:22
dr_willisapt-cache search doc          for a start perhaps?23:23
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msnbotdr_willis:  man socket works in interpid but not in hardy.23:23
msnbotI need the package name23:23
szrhawaiido you want the dev files for dev23:24
dr_willischeck the packae listings for both machines and compare the 2 i guess.23:25
szrhawaiiyeah23:25
yacccimmo: My "distribution-upgrader" window hangs and does not paint itself anymore ;(23:25
szrhawaiiit should be kdevelop, kdevelop-data, kdevelop-dev, kdevelop-doc23:25
msnboti found cpp-4.2-doc may be it will hap23:25
msnbotszrhawaii: kdevelop-doc is not working. says the package is missing23:26
Cimmoyacc: wait...23:26
szrhawaiidid you download it23:26
msnbotszrhawaii: no. its what apt-get says23:28
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szrhawaiithen you got to go to your package manager and download it23:29
msnbotI just need "man socket", "man mysql_connect". cause I forget it. it my finger works faster in console.23:29
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msnbotapt-get install kedevelop-doc does notwork.23:29
yaccCimmo, yeah, it just too some time to figure out that it will take 41 minutes to fetch the packages ;)23:30
msnbotThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or23:30
msnbotis only available from another source23:30
msnbotE: Package kdevelop-doc has no installation candidate23:30
szrhawaiitry changing your repos23:30
msnbotsorry for multiple lines23:30
szrhawaiito allow you to23:30
msnbotIdont know which repo it is in.23:31
szrhawaiitry the third party one23:31
msnbotszrhawaii: it should be in official repo. I used it built in installed in Fedora.23:32
szrhawaiiare you using synaptic23:32
szrhawaiiit should be23:32
szrhawaiiit is for hardy23:32
dwidmannyacc: see kubuntu.org for upgrade instructions23:32
msnbotszrhawaii: no. I am using console23:32
yaccdwidmann, I'm already in progress ;)23:32
szrhawaiitry using your synaptic23:32
szrhawaiisee what happens23:33
yaccdwidmann, now the only "fascinating" thing is to see if the stupid thing will reboot after the upgrade.23:33
dwidmannyacc: , ah, good, especially seeing as I wasn't scrolled all the way down :s23:33
msnbotis synaptic in Kubuntu? I am a pure Kubuntu Guy.23:33
szrhawaiiits i kde23:33
yaccLMV-on-LUKS setup.23:33
dwidmannyacc: I'm assuming you found out about the "dist-upgrade-devel" option?23:33
yaccdwidmann, yeah.23:33
szrhawaiiwell the new kde has synaptic in the system settings23:34
BluesKajactually synaptic is a gnome app, but it's more thorough than adept with dependencies , so I prefer it .23:34
dwidmannszrhawaii: no.23:34
szrhawaiiwhen i had the new one it was synaptic23:34
szrhawaiithen the old one had hardy23:34
szrhawaiidont know how that happened23:34
yaccdwidmann, I'm using the waiting time to scout for a new laptop should this one die ;)23:35
szrhawaiii have adept23:35
msnbotsyanptic looks like a GTK app.23:35
Cimmoit IS a gtk app23:36
Cimmobut it is way better than poor adept23:36
szrhawaiiit does file better23:36
Cimmotrust me: kubuntu 8.10 is a bunch of beta and unfinished software23:36
Cimmoleave it alove23:36
Cimmo*alone23:37
msnbotszrhawaii: wow. its downloading. why it didnt work with apt-get??23:37
szrhawaiiif no one uses it then they cant work out the bugs23:37
szrhawaiithat happens to me sometimes23:37
CimmoI'm using it, but only on secondary machine23:37
szrhawaiiits like i get locked out of terminal23:37
szrhawaiithen have to use the package manager23:38
dwidmannCimmo: I'd say it's a gnome app, what with all the gnome depends it has23:38
msnbotKubuntu Hardy is not LTS.  I didnt know.23:38
msnbotbut Kubuntu Dapar was LTS.23:39
e-headhey23:40
e-headI don't seem to have an inittab file23:40
e-headIs this file still used?  Do I have to make one?23:40
msnbote-head: no its not used anymore23:40
e-headno way!23:41
e-headare you serious?23:41
dwidmann!upstart23:41
ubottuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/23:41
msnbote-head: but if you place one there it will work.23:41
e-headokay. thanks.23:41
e-headKubuntu uses System V init doesn't it?23:41
msnbotno23:41
e-headreally? what does it use?23:41
dwidmanne-head: switched it out with upstart years ago23:41
e-headdamn.  i'm way behind the times I guess.23:42
msnbote-head:  If you want to work with inittab. place an inittab file there. It will simulate23:42
e-headgotcha.23:42
e-headthanks.23:42
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e-headcan you still do "init 3" commands, etc...23:42
Guest823Just switched over form archlinux and I was wondering if there is some way to set up konqueror to work like it does in thier iteration.23:42
e-headdid it put a simlink there for me?23:42
msnbote-head: everything works.23:43
dwidmannupstart emulates sys-v-init for compatibility though, as well as doing its own thing23:43
e-headIs this pretty common for new linux distros... to use this upstart?23:43
ahmoshi , i need agood firewal and easy to configure,anyone knows one?23:43
Guest823Found a few things on the net about restoring factory settings for konq but they all seem to apply to old versions23:43
dwidmanne-head: think it's an ubuntu thing, or at least it started as one23:43
loganWHDcan i ask a question:  can i take Kubuntu 8.10 down to KDE3?23:43
e-headhow would I kill my X-server and go into a console only mode?23:44
dwidmannloganWHD: short of finding relible third party packages or compiling it yourself,no.23:44
ahmos!firewall23:44
ubottuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).23:44
e-headwithout doing a ctrl-alt-backspace23:44
szrhawaii!mplayer23:44
ubottumplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs23:44
szrhawaii#compiz-fusion23:45
msnbotI never used compiz. :(23:45
loganWHDso really i gotta go to Kubuntu 8.0423:45
loganWHDugh23:45
loganWHDso much dang reinstalling this week23:46
szrhawaiioh sorry i was lazy and decided to link from there23:46
loganWHDwell that was depressing piece of news23:46
loganWHDhehe23:46
Guest823any help for konq defaults23:47
burn_where can i check is my comp linux compatibile?23:47
burn_i wanna buy new desktop and want to know are my new components copmatible, any sites?23:47
dwidmannburn_: what i would do would be to google the part names, yes, part by part.23:48
msnbotburn_: make sure the components/devices you buy has linux driver23:48
burn_graphic has linux rivers23:48
burn_drivers23:48
szrhawaiiif you go into the bios on the new comps sometimes it says it in the settings for linux23:49
msnbotburn_: : as long as you buy device from famous company they will have linux driver. eg. Intel23:49
burn_thnx23:49
dwidmannburn_: wouldn't be so sure about that really23:49
xxx_i am having problems with klamav. When i try to update it i get the "Update process died unexpectedly! did you kill it manually?" error message.23:50
szrhawaiianyone know how to patch the mplayer23:50
xxx_anyone can help me ? or redirect me ?23:50
szrhawaiii have a patch source but forgot how to do it23:50
msnbotnormally the problem arise when its a laptop and the compay doesnt provide support any more.23:50
dwidmannburn_: definitely check into the ethernet controller, disk controller, and the graphics card, at the least.23:50
dwidmannszrhawaii: patch -p1 < file.patch23:51
burn_graphic card has linux drivers, checked ati radeon 387023:51
dwidmannszrhawaii: or something like that23:51
szrhawaiithanks23:51
loganWHDanyone here using 8.04 and a dell 9400?23:51
msnbotnvidia graphics card has driver.23:51
szrhawaiinot working23:51
burn_i used both graphic card on linux23:52
msnbotdont buy any chep chinese sound card.23:52
burn_both working good23:52
dwidmannburn_: one thing that's also worth checking is *how well* those particular drivers are working, for the particular device(s)23:52
loganWHDi am thinking i am going back to 8.04 but not sure if anyone is having the same sound card issues etc23:52
dwidmannburn_: whether things work (properly!!) or not can vary from model to model ...23:52
szrhawaiigot nothing23:52
burn_where to check how well the york? i have ati radeon 3650 and it works great, am gonna buy 387023:52
xxx_anyone help ?23:52
xxx_^23:52
dwidmannszrhawaii: do you have the patch and run the command from the root of the source directory?23:53
szrhawaiii have the patch saved on my comp23:53
szrhawaiiso i got to go to the mplayer root23:54
dougldoes kubuntu install compiz fusion by default? ie will it work after I install the nvidia drivers?23:54
PleXuShi all, having problem with samba fileserver smbd stopped running :s23:55
PleXuS * smbd is not running.23:55
burn_anyone use amsn? if anyone use tell me where to put skins to use them?23:55
e-headHey, what packages do I need to install to get apache2/php5/mysql system up and running?23:55
dwidmannburn_: I would do a google search something similar to "linux ati radeon hd3870 problem|bug23:55
dwidmann"23:55
burn_apache2 , php5 and mysql , check them in adept23:56
dwidmannburn_: if you see lots of problems that might effect you, then be wary, eh?23:56
dougldwidmann, canadian to eh?23:56
burn_:D23:56
Mr-Shello23:56
e-headthanks23:57
dwidmanndougl: 'fraid not, just a weird american23:57
e-headwhat's this apache2-mpm-prefork package it's trying to pull in?23:58
e-headIt says this is a Multi-Processing Module apache23:59
e-headHow come my current apache2 won't work?23:59
burn_u tryed localhost?23:59

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