| skotti_ | Hello everyone | 07:22 |
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| playya | hi | 07:27 |
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| HaggisPC | i tried ubuntu-8.10-mid-lpia.img on my Acer Aspire One A150 yesterday , Awsome !! now writing the ubuntu-8.10-umpc-i386.img to try then will add the progs/fixes for adding UNR stuff so i can have best of both :) these netbooks are brilliant | 08:30 |
| HaggisPC | booting umpc now :) | 08:32 |
| HaggisPC | ooo , i like it better than the mid/unr :) but no wifi , guess i need to build latest driver again | 08:36 |
| HaggisPC | moved left panel to bottom and shrunk hight to 30 :) looks even better now | 08:40 |
| Alastair_ | hi guys | 08:41 |
| Alastair_ | someone with penmount toucscreen around here? :D | 08:41 |
| HaggisPC | i have no touchscreen , just trying umpc image on my Acer Aspire One A150 , looks awsome !! Alastair_ | 08:43 |
| Alastair_ | i'm with the regular ubuntu atm, but i'm downloading the mobile version.. the touchscreen is giving me headaches :/ | 08:44 |
| HaggisPC | what device you using it on ? | 08:45 |
| Alastair_ | giga M912M | 08:45 |
| Alastair_ | do you have working wireless ? | 08:46 |
| HaggisPC | no , i have to build the latest ath5k driver as usual | 08:46 |
| HaggisPC | installing umpc now | 08:47 |
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| HaggisPC | thats a nice machine you got Alastair_ | 08:47 |
| Alastair_ | damn... i hoped at least it'll work out of the box :/ | 08:47 |
| HaggisPC | what wifi you got ? | 08:47 |
| Alastair_ | AR5007EG | 08:48 |
| HaggisPC | ohh same as the Acer Aspire One | 08:48 |
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| Alastair_ | yea, | 08:48 |
| Alastair_ | how about the touchpad | 08:48 |
| Alastair_ | does it work... xD | 08:49 |
| HaggisPC | for the mid / unr i had to blacklist the ath_hal and buils a new ath_pci | 08:49 |
| HaggisPC | touchpad works fine :) | 08:49 |
| Alastair_ | ^^ lol, at least something to look forward.. | 08:49 |
| HaggisPC | build* | 08:49 |
| Alastair_ | mine doesn't work with the regular version.. | 08:50 |
| HaggisPC | i'll link you to the info and download for wifi , 2 secs | 08:50 |
| Alastair_ | thx :p | 08:50 |
| Alastair_ | btw. how did you burn the image ? | 08:51 |
| Alastair_ | now i see it's .img file, i can't write it to the flash with unetbootin | 08:52 |
| HaggisPC | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne | 08:52 |
| HaggisPC | see the wifi part | 08:52 |
| HaggisPC | dd it | 08:52 |
| HaggisPC | in windows i use flashnul | 08:53 |
| HaggisPC | http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://shounen.ru/soft/flashnul/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dflashnul%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26hs%3D7k4 | 08:54 |
| HaggisPC | howto flashnul here http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://shounen.ru/soft/flashnul/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dflashnul%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26hs%3D7k4 | 08:55 |
| HaggisPC | sudo dd if=/path/to/your/downloaded.img of=/dev/usb-device Alastair_ :) | 08:59 |
| HaggisPC | allthat should help :) | 08:59 |
| Alastair_ | the problem is i'm running windows on my main pc :D | 09:01 |
| Alastair_ | still waiting for my new drive to arrive in order to migrate | 09:02 |
| HaggisPC | use flashnul and a usb stick :) | 09:03 |
| HaggisPC | stick in your usb stick then got start / run type cmd to get comand prompt | 09:04 |
| HaggisPC | got = goto | 09:04 |
| HaggisPC | the cd to dir you have flashnul and image in | 09:05 |
| HaggisPC | type flashnul -p ,then you will see which number your drive is | 09:05 |
| HaggisPC | then | 09:06 |
| playya | i think the problem is that the windows pc has a different wifi chip | 09:06 |
| HaggisPC | thype flashnul THE_NUMBER -L image.img :) | 09:06 |
| HaggisPC | Fedora 10 manages to select the correct driver :P | 09:08 |
| HaggisPC | hehe | 09:08 |
| Alastair_ | i think i managed to write it, now i'll test it | 09:08 |
| HaggisPC | i don't mind building it each time but i am sure others are getting pissed off by now | 09:08 |
| playya | just avoid kernel updates | 09:10 |
| HaggisPC | why module ath5k get included is beyond me | 09:11 |
| HaggisPC | it would have save loads of hedaches | 09:11 |
| HaggisPC | brb , going to build http://snapshots.madwifi-project.org/madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6/madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6-r3835-20080801.tar.gz | 09:12 |
| HaggisPC | at least i know this works fine :) | 09:12 |
| HaggisPC | cannot find build-essential , apt-get install build-essential gives not found | 09:22 |
| HaggisPC | time for a coffee and ciggie i think | 09:22 |
| HaggisPC | silly me apt-get update then apt-get install build-essential lol | 09:28 |
| HaggisPC | building happy now :) | 09:32 |
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| haggisAAO | 8-) yay :) on wifi via umpc and Acer Aspire One A150 | 09:51 |
| Alastair_ | it's alive....... lol | 09:51 |
| Alastair_ | i've managed to boot the umpc version | 09:52 |
| HaggisPC | yay !! | 09:52 |
| HaggisPC | do you have wifi ? probably not | 09:53 |
| Alastair_ | i'll know in a few sec | 09:53 |
| Alastair_ | slow flash... | 09:53 |
| Alastair_ | it booted | 09:53 |
| HaggisPC | ohh your still running from flash | 09:53 |
| Alastair_ | the interface is strange | 09:54 |
| Alastair_ | love the virtual kb tho xD | 09:54 |
| HaggisPC | :) | 09:54 |
| Alastair_ | but the touchscreen is still fu*ked up | 09:54 |
| Alastair_ | no touchpad too -.- | 09:55 |
| HaggisPC | fheck | 09:55 |
| HaggisPC | i got my first bug !! | 09:55 |
| Alastair_ | no wireless also | 09:55 |
| HaggisPC | brightness applet is screwed | 09:56 |
| Alastair_ | damn, i have no luck :/ | 09:56 |
| Alastair_ | lol... mine works xD | 09:56 |
| HaggisPC | so add a mouse for now then we will fix your wifi | 09:56 |
| Alastair_ | at least the menus are large and i can touch them | 09:57 |
| HaggisPC | applet grabs focus but doesnt return it so i am in limbo lol | 09:57 |
| HaggisPC | ohh get terminal then | 09:57 |
| Alastair_ | which is better | 09:57 |
| Alastair_ | mobile or nbr | 09:57 |
| HaggisPC | have both :) | 09:58 |
| Alastair_ | that's why i'm asking xD | 09:58 |
| HaggisPC | you can add nbr to this :) | 09:58 |
| HaggisPC | i'll give you link once i find it again , 2 sec | 09:58 |
| Alastair_ | the only difference i saw is that strange launcher nbr has :s | 09:59 |
| HaggisPC | try sudo ts_calibrate to fix touchscreen , i guess ubuntu will use it | 09:59 |
| Alastair_ | command not found | 10:00 |
| HaggisPC | yes Alastair_ but it is great for fast switching to different progs :) | 10:00 |
| HaggisPC | google ubuntu touchscreen then :P | 10:00 |
| Alastair_ | my biggest problem is the touchpad :/ | 10:01 |
| Alastair_ | everything else i can overlook for the moment | 10:01 |
| HaggisPC | i will find mid/unr link | 10:01 |
| Alastair_ | for now i'll install this | 10:01 |
| HaggisPC | okay , i'll try help with touchpad after wifi | 10:02 |
| Alastair_ | i've bookmarked that link you gave me, i'll try it after installing it | 10:03 |
| HaggisPC | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Mobile/HowTo/TurnUMPCDesktopIntoNetbook | 10:03 |
| HaggisPC | okay hook up an ethernet cable , the apt-get update | 10:03 |
| HaggisPC | then* | 10:04 |
| Alastair_ | hm xD | 10:04 |
| HaggisPC | some of that you won't want to do as you have touchscreen | 10:04 |
| Alastair_ | i think i like the standart umpc version better xD | 10:05 |
| HaggisPC | me too :) | 10:05 |
| HaggisPC | killed xserver :) | 10:06 |
| Alastair_ | lol | 10:06 |
| Alastair_ | btw. how did you partition your disk | 10:06 |
| Alastair_ | i'm wondering how much swap space to leave | 10:06 |
| HaggisPC | guided , then used all disk | 10:06 |
| Alastair_ | nah, i want to create a 2nd storage partition, the disk is 160gb | 10:07 |
| HaggisPC | removed that dam brightness applet :) | 10:07 |
| HaggisPC | just use free space you can change things/sizes with gparted later | 10:08 |
| Alastair_ | i left it with 270mb swap, i think it'll be enough | 10:09 |
| HaggisPC | aye | 10:10 |
| theseinfeld | Hobbsee, ogra, any changes to bug #289402 and kdebase-workspace builds? | 10:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 289402 in kdebase-workspace "circular build dependency between kdebase-workspace and kde4bindings, broken on lpia and hppa" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/289402 | 10:12 |
| Alastair_ | 271mb swap 13.5gb system, rest storage xD | 10:14 |
| Alastair_ | i think the touchscreen is screwing the touchpad | 10:15 |
| HaggisPC | could be , mabey someone with more experience can help there , mabey rmmod the touchpad driver | 10:16 |
| HaggisPC | to see if touchscreen fixes | 10:17 |
| Alastair_ | nah | 10:17 |
| HaggisPC | or other way around :() | 10:17 |
| Alastair_ | the touchscreen is working, it just doesn't work at the edges of the screen | 10:17 |
| Alastair_ | around half a cm ;/ | 10:17 |
| HaggisPC | ahh you need to calibrate it | 10:18 |
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| Alastair_ | yea, but can't find a way to do it :/ | 10:18 |
| Alastair_ | there is no proprietary driver for 8.10, and the calibration tool from the old driver doesnt work | 10:19 |
| Alastair_ | 75% installed :D | 10:19 |
| HaggisPC | system > administration > touchscreen :) | 10:19 |
| Alastair_ | jesus, how stupid can i be | 10:20 |
| HaggisPC | :P | 10:20 |
| Alastair_ | just send the machine to sleew | 10:20 |
| Alastair_ | sleep | 10:20 |
| HaggisPC | heck ! | 10:20 |
| Alastair_ | pressed fn+f1 instead alt+f1 | 10:20 |
| Alastair_ | lol | 10:21 |
| Alastair_ | the installation resumed xD | 10:21 |
| HaggisPC | i just love this umpc mobile image :) | 10:21 |
| HaggisPC | yay | 10:21 |
| Alastair_ | i hope i didn't damage something | 10:22 |
| HaggisPC | i am sure it will be fine | 10:22 |
| Alastair_ | that's the 1st feature i disable right away | 10:23 |
| Alastair_ | the damn sleep is useless :s | 10:23 |
| HaggisPC | me too , i hate such things , if i want it to go to sleep , ill press the power buton :) | 10:24 |
| Alastair_ | yep... | 10:25 |
| Alastair_ | i only hope this mobile version is more forgiving on the battery ... | 10:26 |
| HaggisPC | i had loads of updates after i built the wifi and rebooted , 105 of them ,so i hope nothing breaks | 10:26 |
| Alastair_ | under vista it survives for nearly 3hrs with disabled wireless, the regular ubuntu drains it in 1-1:30 without wireless X_X | 10:26 |
| HaggisPC | hopefully once you get everything updated it will be better anyway | 10:28 |
| HaggisPC | restarting my AAO now fingers crossed | 10:28 |
| HaggisPC | botted fine but on wifi , guess ill neet to rebuild | 10:31 |
| Alastair_ | no evtouch capable device found | 10:31 |
| Alastair_ | ;( | 10:31 |
| HaggisPC | ouch | 10:31 |
| Alastair_ | hm... i'll update first and then fix the wifi xD | 10:31 |
| HaggisPC | ahh , it war kernel update , so will need to rebuils but first i'll see if i have ath5k module | 10:33 |
| HaggisPC | war=was | 10:33 |
| HaggisPC | damn module not found | 10:34 |
| HaggisPC | make clean | 10:36 |
| HaggisPC | ,make , | 10:36 |
| HaggisPC | sudo make install then | 10:36 |
| Alastair_ | grr | 10:37 |
| Alastair_ | now i'll have to disconnect my main pc cuz the lack of wifi :/ | 10:37 |
| Alastair_ | but i'm too lazy to do it now :D | 10:38 |
| HaggisPC | Every time there is a kernel update you will need to perform the following steps to make the wireless work. Go to the directory (madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6-r3835-20080801) and run: make clean | 10:38 |
| HaggisPC | , make | 10:38 |
| HaggisPC | , sudo make install ,GRrr | 10:38 |
| HaggisPC | okay Alastair_ , just follow the wifi part on that link and once you get wifi up and running do an update and then you'll have to build again like i did | 10:40 |
| HaggisPC | well going for reboot , hopefully wifi will be back again but mabey i'll need new linux headers for the new kernel | 10:41 |
| HaggisPC | i got wifi again :) | 10:42 |
| haggisAAO | yay!! | 10:43 |
| haggisAAO | running kernel 2.6.27-9-generic now | 10:45 |
| HaggisPC | we wouldn't have all this hastle if the kernel had ath5k built | 10:47 |
| ogra | HaggisPC, it had ath5k built | 10:48 |
| ogra | and it broke the world | 10:48 |
| HaggisPC | ahh but i thought it was fixed | 10:49 |
| ogra | this is why we ship a linux-backports-modules package on the image for later installation, including an ath5k backport from a later and better working kernel version | 10:49 |
| HaggisPC | ahh :) | 10:49 |
| ogra | you just eed to install that package to get ath5k | 10:49 |
| ogra | *need | 10:50 |
| HaggisPC | i am new to ubuntu as you may have guessed | 10:50 |
| ogra | there is a /debs dir on your image that should contain the linux-backports-modules package | 10:51 |
| HaggisPC | so do i need to add new repo sources or just apt-get install linux-backports-modules | 10:51 |
| ogra | at least on the -umpc image, i'm not sure the dir made it into the -mid images | 10:51 |
| HaggisPC | cool :) | 10:51 |
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| Alastair_ | hmm.. so if i install this package i won't have to make my own driver ? | 10:52 |
| ogra | after install, just plug in the usb key you installed from, navigate to the debs dir and doubleclick the package | 10:52 |
| HaggisPC | thats cool :) | 10:52 |
| HaggisPC | now that was well thought out ogra :) | 10:52 |
| ogra | HaggisPC, nah, well thought out would have been if it just worked right away :) | 10:53 |
| ogra | but its a usable workaround :) | 10:53 |
| Alastair_ | ogra, are you one of the devs :D | 10:53 |
| ogra | the next release will do better in that regard | 10:53 |
| ogra | Alastair_, i'm responsible for the -umpc image, yes | 10:53 |
| HaggisPC | i bet you have had a laugh with me building and breaking stuff to get wifi :) | 10:54 |
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| Alastair_ | lol | 10:54 |
| ogra | no, i didnt, i just got online and saw the backlog and felt rather sorry :) | 10:54 |
| ogra | if i would have been up earlier i could have told you earlier ... i guess we need better docs here | 10:55 |
| ogra | though if your way worked thats fine as well ... all that counts is tht you get a working system ;) | 10:55 |
| Alastair_ | do you have any suggestions about my problems with the touchscreen & touchpad :? | 10:56 |
| HaggisPC | just shows i must be learning something :) | 10:56 |
| ogra | Alastair_, i think the touchscreen driver for the gigabyte is proprietary ... | 10:56 |
| ogra | (which means no, sorry) | 10:57 |
| Alastair_ | yup, but unless they include proprietary drivers in the distro there must be a foss one too... :s | 10:58 |
| Alastair_ | cuz i have partially working touchscreen | 10:58 |
| ogra | hmm | 10:58 |
| Alastair_ | it is recognized and all, just not calibrated :/ | 10:59 |
| ogra | do you happen to know what model and manufacturer the touchscreen is ? | 11:00 |
| Alastair_ | Penmount 6000 USB | 11:00 |
| Alastair_ | xserver-xorg-input-penmount | 11:01 |
| ogra | right | 11:01 |
| Alastair_ | i think this is the current driver | 11:01 |
| ogra | i dont think that package has a calibration tool | 11:01 |
| Alastair_ | there is some sort of calibration tool in system>administration | 11:02 |
| ogra | bug 227183 seems the issue | 11:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 227183 in xserver-xorg-input-penmount "no calibration tool" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/227183 | 11:02 |
| Alastair_ | "Calibrate Touchscreen" | 11:02 |
| ogra | Alastair_, thats the calibration tool from evtouch | 11:02 |
| Alastair_ | ah.. :D | 11:02 |
| Alastair_ | well, leave the touchscreen, any hope for the touchpad ? :D | 11:03 |
| ogra | (i wrote that, we'll have something better in jaunty (9.04), for intrepid (8.10) it only works with evtouch devices) | 11:03 |
| ogra | note really, i dont have much experience with touchpads beyond using one on my laptop ... | 11:04 |
| ogra | for the touchscreen there seem to be some intresting bits in the bug though | 11:05 |
| Alastair_ | hm.. can't wait for the time when i'll put ubuntu on my ipaq :p | 11:19 |
| haggisAAO | brb | 11:21 |
| HaggisPC | need coffee and ciggie | 11:21 |
| Alastair_ | did you try that backports thingie | 11:23 |
| HaggisPC | it's old modules compaired to kernel i am running now so , no , i am going to redo from scratch right now | 11:26 |
| HaggisPC | my house refuses to heat up 13C inside , -5C outside | 11:34 |
| Alastair_ | here it's -6c | 11:40 |
| HaggisPC | where are you Alastair_ , 10 miles west of Glasgow Scotland here | 11:41 |
| Alastair_ | bulgaria | 11:42 |
| Alastair_ | inside temp 26c according to the AC xD | 11:42 |
| HaggisPC | nice and warm in your house :) | 11:42 |
| Alastair_ | hm | 11:42 |
| Alastair_ | according to msn weather it's 5c above 0 :s | 11:43 |
| HaggisPC | lol @ msn | 11:43 |
| Alastair_ | they probably don't account for moist and wind ^^ | 11:44 |
| HaggisPC | yes , feels more like -12 out there | 11:44 |
| Alastair_ | i'm brb, moving the ethernet to the notebook | 11:45 |
| HaggisPC | backports worked a treat ogra , you should ad info to umpc page , running ath5k now | 11:49 |
| * bizkut is away: auto-away | 12:10 | |
| * bizkut is back (gone 00:18:13) | 12:28 | |
| * Hobbsee is pondering cake | 12:28 | |
| Hobbsee | bizkut: any chance you can turn that off? | 12:29 |
| * HaggisPC steals that cake from under Hobbsee's nose | 12:30 | |
| Hobbsee | :( | 12:30 |
| bizkut | Hobbsee, now you know that I am back :D | 12:30 |
| Hobbsee | bizkut: yeah, but /away <reason> exists for a reason, far less intrusively | 12:31 |
| Hobbsee | ie, people who specifically look for you will know you're away, not the general population | 12:31 |
| bizkut | Hobbsee, I turn the away on so people don't have to wait if I don't answer their /query/questions because they know I am not in front of my pc | 12:32 |
| bizkut | ok then | 12:32 |
| Hobbsee | bizkut: but they see that anyway, with the /away. That's why it's useful :) | 12:35 |
| ogra | beyond that its a general politeness rule in ubuntu channels to not annoy people with automated in/out messages, please turn it off | 12:36 |
| Hobbsee | ogra: that too | 12:38 |
| HaggisPC | back l8a | 12:50 |
| Alastair_ | damn | 13:01 |
| Alastair_ | the wireless worked for a while, but after the update all went to hell -.- | 13:02 |
| theseinfeld | Hobbsee, you there? | 13:28 |
| theseinfeld | ogra? | 13:28 |
| ogra | theseinfeld, what did you break again ? :) | 13:28 |
| theseinfeld | nothing, I just try to understand this #289402 | 13:28 |
| theseinfeld | so, why the kdebase-workspace builds on i386 and not on lpia? | 13:29 |
| theseinfeld | to quote from southpark: It doesn't make any sense. :D | 13:29 |
| theseinfeld | if we find the answer there,...we can fix the #289402 in lpia | 13:31 |
| theseinfeld | and hppa | 13:31 |
| theseinfeld | mdz, are you guys going to drop the lpia? | 13:35 |
| ogra | theseinfeld, this will be discussed at UDS | 13:40 |
| ogra | (as i told you last week already) | 13:41 |
| hagisbasheruk | ogra, you should make a note about adding backports to /etc/apt/sources.list for future upgrades for ath5k users , did upgrade and lost wifi lol , forgot to check my sources for backports before running | 13:43 |
| ogra | you shouldnt add backports | 13:44 |
| ogra | linux-backports-modules is a regular package that lives in intrepid-updates ... | 13:44 |
| hagisbasheruk | well after kernel update i have no ath5k module | 13:44 |
| ogra | not in intrepid-backports | 13:45 |
| hagisbasheruk | okay :) | 13:45 |
| hagisbasheruk | should i remove backports from sources ? | 13:45 |
| ogra | well, backports are usually packages from the next release that get backported ... given the status of 9.04 i wouldnt expect much stability from such packages | 13:46 |
| hagisbasheruk | ahh ... okay removed ;) thanks | 13:47 |
| ogra | linux-backports-modules just means that single modules will be backported from newer kernel versions and put into this package | 13:47 |
| ogra | it isnt related to the backports archive :) | 13:47 |
| hagisbasheruk | ahh well thats what has caused me the confusion , should be named different then ;) | 13:49 |
| ogra | file a bug, probably the kernel team agrees ;) | 13:50 |
| hagisbasheruk | :) | 13:50 |
| hagisbasheruk | ohh bye the way , now that i love this umpc image feel free to use me for testing on the Acer aspire one a150 | 13:52 |
| hagisbasheruk | its great that i have only found one bug , brightness applet doesn't work for me and keeps focus | 13:54 |
| hagisbasheruk | filed my first ubuntu bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/303998 | 14:27 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 303998 in ubuntu-mobile "brightness applet doesn't work on Acer Aspire One A150 , applet freeze and holds focus so have to kill X server " [Undecided,New] | 14:27 |
| hagisbasheruk | forgot to check if bug was still there after all the updates , it is still present | 14:32 |
| hagisbasheruk | anyway to make the navbar in the midbrowser smaller , i am in the about:config now | 16:25 |
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