| qense | hello | 16:03 |
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| newz2000 | hi qense | 16:11 |
| tannman | hello | 16:13 |
| tannman | this the correct room for assistance? | 16:14 |
| thorwil | hi newz2000. i still see the pixelated brainstorm logo on http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate | 16:42 |
| newz2000 | hi thorwil, that's on my list to do today | 16:42 |
| thorwil | ah, ok :) | 16:42 |
| newz2000 | I had some time off last week and just didn't get that done before I left | 16:42 |
| nand | oh hai! | 16:43 |
| newz2000 | hey nand | 16:44 |
| nand | newz2000: did I remember correctly that you were talking about a inter website navigation a while ago? | 16:44 |
| newz2000 | I was talking about it but never came up with a solution | 16:44 |
| nand | okay. If you're interested, we may talk a bit about it at the UDS, I have some little ideas, but I need some background to see if they're feasible | 16:46 |
| newz2000 | nand: I won't be a UDS, sending to the mailing list is probably the best way | 16:46 |
| nand | okay, I'll give my ideas there then (I'm at work right now) | 16:47 |
| newz2000 | nand: will you be at UDS? | 16:47 |
| nand | yes | 16:47 |
| newz2000 | make sure to introduce yourself to Julian, he's the guy Mark S hired to be in charge of Ubuntu's prettyness | 16:48 |
| newz2000 | I know he's putting a lot of thought into the website's appearance | 16:49 |
| nand | Julian how? | 16:49 |
| newz2000 | I don't understand that question | 16:49 |
| nand | his last name? :) | 16:50 |
| newz2000 | Maybe Julian who? | 16:50 |
| nand | yah :) | 16:50 |
| newz2000 | let me look it up | 16:50 |
| nand | (french deformation) | 16:50 |
| thorwil | nand: just think of the doctor ;) | 16:50 |
| newz2000 | Julian Hubbard | 16:50 |
| nand | newz2000: okay thanks for the tip! | 16:51 |
| newz2000 | my pleasure | 16:51 |
| newz2000 | since I'm not going to UDS during that week I'll be at a drupal training conference www.doitwithdrupal.com | 16:52 |
| nand | you're a drupal fan? | 16:52 |
| newz2000 | I'm hoping to learn how to improve the websit a lot | 16:52 |
| thorwil | that url sounds naughty | 16:52 |
| newz2000 | nand: I wouldn't say a fan, but it's a tool I use to solve problems | 16:52 |
| * nand is currently working on the drupal powered www.france24.com | 16:52 | |
| newz2000 | I really wish there were better solutions out there but haven't found anything yet | 16:53 |
| nand | In my opinion, Drupal is really powerful, once you have spend months with it and you understand it | 16:53 |
| newz2000 | I'd trade some of its power if it made life easier | 16:54 |
| newz2000 | for example, a lady is updating www.canonical.com's landscape section on a staging server | 16:54 |
| thorwil | i still shudder when thinking of drupal css, after exposure to it because of ardour.org :) | 16:54 |
| newz2000 | she has to upload the full content to staging but there's no way to go from staging to live without rebuilding it all a second time | 16:54 |
| nand | in fact, you can work with drupal in two ways : 1) by ignoring almost all his features : fast and easy, but harder to maintain or 2) longer to learn, but fast and easy to maintain :) | 16:54 |
| nand | newz2000: yeah the staging - production is also one of the main issue here | 16:55 |
| nand | but they got used to it : recording all changes done during dev, and they have two prod server : one act as the prod, the other as the preprod, with a replicated DB | 16:56 |
| nand | when we want to go live, we isolate preprod, we make the changes we made during dev, and preprod become prod. And prop become preprod. | 16:57 |
| newz2000 | yuck | 16:57 |
| newz2000 | I mean, it is an interesting solution | 16:57 |
| newz2000 | but it assumes you deploy changes to a website like a software company deploys updates to software. All at once. | 16:58 |
| nand | well, preprod DB is disconnected from prod DB for less than 10mn, time during which we apply dev SQL changes, and then we switch | 16:59 |
| nand | and this time can be reduced to zero, if no manual sql changes | 17:00 |
| nand | and of course, all in SVN, so that code upgrade is as simple as a svn up | 17:02 |
| newz2000 | A while back I created a python module that could publish or modify content on a drupal site using the xml-rpc api. | 17:02 |
| newz2000 | I thought it would be nifty to create a django app that published content to a drupal site | 17:02 |
| newz2000 | Use a django based web front end and it would publish to staging for approval and then after sign-off push the same content to live | 17:03 |
| nand | why not use a module that will by default set new content as not published? | 17:04 |
| newz2000 | that doesn't allow you to make changes to content, it would only affect new pages | 17:04 |
| nand | ok | 17:04 |
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