[00:16] <ryanakca> Riddell: since you  were the last uploader, mind if I merge debtags?
[00:28] <Riddell> ryanakca: hmm, didn't I already?
[00:28]  * ryanakca refreshes DaD
[00:29] <Riddell> hmm, i didn't upload?
[00:29] <Riddell> no
[00:29]  * ryanakca shrugs... I looked on LP... didn't see the bug... but then I didn't check under all bugs... *checks to see if it was closed*
[00:30]  * ryanakca looks for something to merge
[00:39] <Riddell> ryanakca: mm, I remember, debtags had a compile failure
[00:40] <Riddell> and enrico told me to ask mornfall
[00:40] <Riddell> mornfall: any ideas on this?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/79060/
[02:31] <rgreening> hey all
[02:37] <JontheEchidna> the kde4bindings' build-deps depress me v.v
[02:37] <JontheEchidna> 80 MiB
[02:38] <JontheEchidna> that I need to download, and the repos are giving me a lousy 25 KB/sec
[02:38] <JontheEchidna> rgreening: hi
[02:38] <nixternal> use vista, I download security fixes faster than that :p
[02:39] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: how are things?
[02:39] <JontheEchidna> !nixternal
[02:39] <nixternal> rock!
[02:39] <rgreening> hah
[02:39] <JontheEchidna> rgreening: pretty good actually, we might be looking at an Intrepid release for KDE 4.2 tomorrow or the day after at the latest (I hope)
[02:39] <ScottK-laptop> JontheEchidna: I'm working on kde4bindings right now.
[02:40] <ScottK-laptop> JontheEchidna: If you're doing it for Intrepid, don't let me stop you.
[02:40] <JontheEchidna> ScottK-laptop: I'm just throwing an Intrepid label on it and upping it to the kubuntu-updates-testing ppa
[02:40] <rgreening> kool. I've been tied up with work... bosses came for a visit..
[02:40] <JontheEchidna> ...after making sure all the build-depends can be satisfied by Intrepid
[02:40] <ScottK-laptop> JontheEchidna: OK.  I'm seeing about the mono stuff.
[02:41] <JontheEchidna> kool
[02:41] <ScottK-laptop> rgreening: Bosses are a very 20th century concept.  You should tell them.
[02:41] <JontheEchidna> ha
[02:41] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: on the plus side, my python skillz are improving a lot.. been working on the firewall front-end,
[02:42] <JontheEchidna> nice
[02:42] <rgreening> ScottK-laptop: haha.. I agree. My ideal job, hack on linux all day
[02:42] <rgreening> :)
[02:43] <JontheEchidna> If I could do Kubuntu dev full-time when I "grow up" that would be cool
[02:52] <rgreening> hehe
[02:54] <JontheEchidna> [python-qt4-dbg 10682394/52.1MB 20%]
[02:54] <JontheEchidna> so that's where it all goes...
[03:47] <supert0nes> is kdenlive packaged on someones personal repo?
[04:11] <ScottK-laptop> supert0nes: We have the KDE3 version in the repsitories.
[04:11] <ScottK-laptop> supert0nes: The KDE4 one we're working on.
[05:48] <apachelogger> lool: you might want to take a look at the kde4bindings FTBFS on armel
[05:50] <Hobbsee> what, again?
[05:51] <apachelogger> ^_^
[05:52] <apachelogger> lemme rephrase
[05:52] <apachelogger> "take a look at the buildlog of kde4bindings on armel, since it FTBFS unfortunately" :P
[05:52] <apachelogger> Hobbsee: better parsable?
[05:53] <Hobbsee> apachelogger: i knew about the one a few days ago, but i didn't know if there's a more recent one?
[05:53]  * apachelogger uploded the 4.1.80 bindings yesterday
[05:54] <Hobbsee> oh good!
[05:55] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna, lool: uploaded kdebase-workspace, it will FTBFS on armel due to missing kde4bindings and go into depwait on sparc, because the latter's bindings aren't published to the archives yet
[05:55]  * apachelogger heads off to work
[05:55] <ScottK> apachelogger: For kde4bindings, kdebase-workspace-dev is where nepomuk/query.h comes from.  We need that for the mono mepomuk bindings.
[05:56] <apachelogger> should be back at 12:30 UTC
[05:56] <ScottK> apachelogger: That gets us back to a circular situation.
[06:47] <mornfall> Riddell: What versions?
[06:53] <mornfall> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/79162/
[06:53] <mornfall> It seems I have inadvertently broken the API...
[06:53] <mornfall> At some point in the past.
[08:02] <Daeshim> hey
[08:04] <NCommander> hola world
[08:06] <Daeshim> Hey man
[08:06] <Daeshim> Do you know much about infobot?
[08:09] <NCommander> nope
[08:11] <Daeshim> Thanks for trying to help though :)
[08:17] <jussi01> Daeshim: infobot? you mean ubottu?
[08:18] <NCommander> nice to know KDE is still miserably broken on ARM
[08:18] <NCommander> \o/
[08:18] <jussi01> NCommander: really? sad...
[08:19] <NCommander> yup
[08:19] <Hobbsee> infobot is on the network too
[08:19] <NCommander> I'll just sit down and port it for the rest of the work
[08:19] <jussi01> NCommander: have you seen the new network manager ScottK was talking about the other day?
[08:19] <NCommander> nope
[08:20] <jussi01> [05:29:39] <ScottK> Did anyone else notice the new network manager U/I from Novell mentioned here http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/11/on-my-other-perspective.html ? Do we have it?  Do we want it?
[08:20] <NCommander> to my knowledge, no we don't, but maybe we want it
[08:20]  * jussi01 wants to try it out...
[08:20] <NCommander> Install OpenSuSE :-)
[08:21] <jussi01> I did end up finding this: http://dot.kde.org/1224100877/1224141352/1224190666/
[08:21] <jussi01> NCommander: shush
[08:21] <NCommander> doko_, have you been working on the gcj ARM segfault
[08:21] <jussi01> NCommander: Ill rephrase
[08:21] <NCommander> er, wrong channel
[08:21]  * jussi01 wants to try it out on his kubuntu machine
[08:23] <Daeshim> Hobbsee: I know infobot is here.
[08:23]  * jussi01 waves at apachelogger
[08:23] <Daeshim> That is why I joined here :P
[08:25] <Hobbsee> ah
[08:59] <aftertaf> hello all
[09:00] <aftertaf> anyone around to help wth a bug in project-neon kde4.2 ?
[09:02] <jussi01> aftertaf: try in #amarok.neon
[09:02] <aftertaf> iposted to bugs.kde.org but they said its an installation problem.... The kickoff applet has no applications. only the favorites copied from my 4.1 profile
[09:02] <aftertaf> ahhh :) thx
[09:03] <aftertaf> ill get there one day ;)
[09:09] <doko_> NCommander: kde4bindings still ftbfs on armel
[09:09] <lool> Yes, apachelogger mentionned that earlier
[09:09] <NCommander> doko_, yup, working on it now
[09:09]  * NCommander is finally home again
[09:09] <lool> NCommander: You are taking it?
[09:09] <NCommander> Yeah
[09:10] <NCommander> I haven't been able to do any ARM porting work because I've been all over the eastern seaboard dealing w/ my family
[09:10] <NCommander> I plan to have KDE done before UDS
[09:10] <NCommander> lool, care to sponsor once I have something for you?
[09:12] <lool> Sure
[09:12] <NCommander> lool, have you sponsoring things from me before?
[09:12]  * NCommander trying to remember who's sponsored what to main
[09:12] <lool> I don't know
[09:13] <NCommander> I'll have to look around for it
[09:13] <lool> Does it matter?
[09:16] <aftertaf> any one can help witha bug in 4.2 beta? (which is looking mighty fine, i must add... )
[09:52] <Trouble> aftertaf, you were here yesterday weren't you?
[09:53] <aftertaf> yeah
[09:53] <aftertaf> : )
[09:53] <Trouble> You left too soon!
[09:53] <aftertaf> workage ;)
[09:53] <Trouble> Hold on...
[09:53] <Trouble> I've got a link for you somewhere
[09:53] <aftertaf> yeah !!!!! :)
[09:54] <aftertaf> ill get it added to the kubuntu info bot
[09:54] <aftertaf> thx
[09:54] <Trouble> http://forum.kde.org/showthread.php?tid=14118&pid=22327#pid22327
[09:55] <Trouble> cp /etc/xdg/menus/kde4-applications.menu ~/.config/menus/applications.menu
[09:55] <Trouble> then run kbuildsycoca4
[09:56] <aftertaf> yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[09:56] <aftertaf> applications à gogo
[09:56] <Trouble> Indeedy doo
[09:56] <aftertaf> thx man :)
[09:56] <aftertaf> fantastrick
[09:57] <Trouble> np
[09:57]  * aftertaf is very happy :)
[10:01] <aftertaf> ok. there remains one small niggle ;)
[10:01] <aftertaf> because of the menu problem, i decided to add application lauchers to my desktop. but it crashes plasma.... i posted a bug and backtraces yesterday.
[10:19] <Riddell> mornfall: you rock, thanks
[10:22] <Riddell> Nightrose: time to get up
[10:28] <hunger> What is the status from kde 4.2 in jaunty?
[10:29]  * hunger does not get his taskbar anymore since upgrading and sound stops during playback of the startup sound, too.
[10:29] <hunger> I guess some of the gnome-stuff that gets started grabs the sound away from under phonon.
[10:29]  * aftertaf gets phonon crashed and changed device messages too
[10:45] <doc__> hi there
[11:08] <ScottK> hunger: AFAIK 4.1.80 (the beta) is still not complete.
[11:40] <NCommander> apachelogger, http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=176693 - can you take a look at this when you get up?
[11:41] <ScottK> NCommander: Are you subscribed to kubuntu-devel?
[11:41] <NCommander> I think so
[11:42] <NCommander> ScottK, why do you ask?
[11:42] <ScottK> OK.  I'm doing some work on kde4bindings and getting the mono transition done.  I will be offline most of the day, so I'd figured on mailing what I learn before I have to go there so someone else can pick it up.
[11:42] <NCommander> ScottK, I thought directhex said he was going to do it ...
[11:42] <ScottK> Eventually.
[11:42]  * NCommander sighs
[11:43] <ScottK> He gave me some advice and it seems there are other related issues.
[11:43] <NCommander> KDE on ARM is broken, KDE and mono is broken, KDE and bluetooth is STILL broken :-/
[11:55] <ScottK> Well, at least one of those is arguable a feature.
[11:59]  * NCommander watches directhex drop out of the sky and whack ScottK with a 5 iron
[12:00]  * ScottK has no idea what NCommander is talking about.  Bluetooth is fundamentally an insecure protocol and lack of it could be considered a security feature.
[12:00] <ScottK> NCommander: Why would directhex be upset about that?
[12:00]  * NCommander has a long of ScottK complaining about how we broke Bluetooth on KDE ...
[12:00] <NCommander> s/long/log
[12:01] <ScottK> NCommander: True.  Just because it might be a feature, doesn't make it one.
[12:10] <ScottK> NCommander: Sent.
[12:10] <NCommander> thanks
[12:27] <glade88> kde 4.1.x is a "bug fix only release"? http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3099950.msg159997#msg159997
[12:35] <ScottK-laptop> glade88: In theory.
[12:37] <glade88> ScottK-laptop: still has major changes?
[12:37] <glade88> I mean, kde 4.1.x
[12:37] <Tm_T> major fixes (:)
[12:37] <glade88> Tm_T: change in scrollbar style? oO
[12:37] <glade88> ^^ though I like it personally
[12:38] <Tm_T> glade88: if it needs a "fix" it could be that too
[12:38] <ScottK-laptop> It's not always clear what's 'feature' and what's 'bug fix'.
[12:38]  * glade88 scratches his head
[12:38] <glade88> yea
[12:41] <apachelogger> glade88: that dood installed kde-nightly
[12:41] <apachelogger> that ain't got anything to do with kubuntu really
[12:41] <apachelogger> aside from the rant, which will be valid for 9.04
[12:42] <glade88> apachelogger: so if one doesnt have nightly, and has backports enabled, (s)he would have had the scrollbar changes?
[12:42] <apachelogger> no
[12:43] <apachelogger> you only get these if you have nightly
[12:43] <glade88> that explains it. thanks :)
[12:43] <apachelogger> or rather, if you used a complete nigthly session
[12:43] <apachelogger> there is a theme intermixing going on due to some wicked Qt caching
[12:47] <glade88> apachelogger: a complete nightly session?
[12:47] <apachelogger> well, you gotta have logged in once
[12:48] <apachelogger> anyway
[12:48] <apachelogger> 4.1.x does not have oxygen changes
[12:48] <glade88> ah, ok.
[12:48] <glade88> oic
[12:51] <ScottK-laptop> NCommander: kde4bindings needs python-qt4 4.4.4~ to build.  While you're in there, would you please see if the build-dep is correctly versioned?
[12:51] <ScottK-laptop> shhhhh.  He's back.
[12:52] <NCommander> ScottK, nope, its not
[12:52] <ScottK-laptop> NCommander: Would you please fix that while you're there then.
[12:53] <NCommander> I probably won't be uploading anything until I get feedback from upstream
[12:54] <ScottK-laptop> NCommander: OK.  I'll be offline for the next 12-14 hours, so AFAIK, you are holding the cookie on kde4bindings.
[12:54] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: This is a moment where packaging in bzr would be handy.
[12:55] <ScottK-laptop> It's a decently long build, so I wouldn't want to upload just for that.
[12:55] <apachelogger> ScottK-laptop: well, I can upload the branch if you want
[12:55] <apachelogger> really just takes a few minutes to prepare
[12:56] <NCommander> hey apachelogger
[12:56] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: We may as well start somewhere.
[12:56] <NCommander> apachelogger, did you see the bug I linked you to?
[12:57]  * ScottK-laptop really needs to get going.  See you all later.
[12:57] <apachelogger> NCommander: yes
[12:58]  * NCommander wants for apachelogger's two euros
[12:59] <JontheEchidna> Hmm, how did kde4bindings build on Jaunty but fail in the ppa?
[13:00] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: what is the failure?
[13:00]  * JontheEchidna is pasting
[13:00] <NCommander> JontheEchidna, deep magic
[13:00] <JontheEchidna> http://paste.ubuntu.com/79287/
[13:01] <apachelogger> NCommander: on where the bug should go?
[13:02] <NCommander> apachelogger, I think it should go on kdelibs since that's where the broken module is
[13:02]  * apachelogger didn't look at the issue precisely yet
[13:02] <apachelogger> NCommander: Sime_ will know ;-)
[13:22] <apachelogger> ScottK: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebindings/ubuntu
[13:23] <apachelogger> ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/79302/
[13:23]  * apachelogger is wondering where smarter is
[13:27] <NCommander> apachelogger, er, can I make a suggestion
[13:27] <NCommander> WHy not have one large repo with all the KDE trees in it instead of ten or 20 smaller branches
[13:28] <NCommander> and for bzr bd to work, the folder must be named debian
[13:34] <apachelogger> NCommander: because launchpad does not work that way
[13:34] <NCommander> bzr init-repo lp:~kubuntu-members/kde-packaging-trunk
[13:34] <NCommander> bzr init lp:~kubuntu-members/kde-packaging-trunk/kde*
[13:36] <NCommander> that way you can do co lp:~kubuntu-members/kde-packaging-trunk or get a specific compotent
[13:37] <apachelogger> and if you don't want all of the crap?
[13:40] <NCommander> bzr co lp:~kubuntu-members/kde-packaging-trunk/kdebindings :-P
[13:42]  * apachelogger is having a poke load
[13:43] <apachelogger> NCommander: co != branch
[13:43] <NCommander> bzr branch :-P
[13:43]  * apachelogger isn't even sure that would work with co
[13:43] <NCommander> Both work
[13:43] <apachelogger> yeah, with branch it doesn't work, I would bet my right arm on that
[13:43] <NCommander> and co is the same as branch once you issue unbind
[13:45] <apachelogger> doesn't work for both of them
[13:45] <NCommander> hrm ...
[13:45]  * NCommander thinks
[13:45] <NCommander> You can just have one bzr init repo, and then have subtrees, Bazaar IS smart enough to allow you just get parts of a repo
[13:46] <apachelogger> documentation please
[13:46] <apachelogger> NCommander: that still doesn't invalidify the fact that LP doesn't work that way
[13:47] <NCommander> apachelogger, get
[13:47] <NCommander> er
[13:47] <NCommander> apachelogger, http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/bzr.dev/en/user-guide/index.html#choosing-a-shared-repository-layout
[13:49] <apachelogger> as I read it, /kdebindings would still be a subbranch of kde-packaging-trunk
[13:50] <NCommander> BUt there is no way to grab all the branches all at once the way you wer eputting them
[13:51] <apachelogger> NCommander: sure, write a script and report a lot of duplicate bugs on launchpad so they get annoyed enough to make that stuff more suitable
[13:51] <hunger> apachelogger: How is kde4.2 going?
[13:51] <NCommander> Why can't you do it as subversion versining then
[13:51] <NCommander> One truck with a bunch of subfolders
[13:52] <NCommander> since its just the debian folders and not the actual source, its not a huge issue even if people are forced to grab the entire tree
[13:52]  * hunger hates what SVN does.
[13:52] <hunger> A branch is conceptually very different from a directory.
[13:52] <apachelogger> <3 git
[13:53] <apachelogger> hunger: libs, pimlibs, bindings and kdebase* are uploaded
[13:53] <hunger> apachelogger: Yeap. Got those (I think).
[13:53] <hunger> plasma broke and phonon does not work (but that never did, even in intrepid).
[13:53] <apachelogger> I don't want to continue until it compiles on armel, which is currently hold back due to a build error in pykde
[13:54] <hunger> I think some of the gnome-stuff pulls the device out from under phonon or something. I do hear part of the startup sound and the parts of the shutdown sound:-(
[13:56] <JontheEchidna> isn't dput supposed to show you your current upload speed?
[13:56] <JontheEchidna> it never does for me anymore
[13:56] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[13:57] <apachelogger> hunger: unlikely, maybe you should nuke your .phonondevicerc
[13:57] <NCommander> apachelogger, lets setup a git repo
[13:57] <NCommander> :-P
[13:57] <apachelogger> NCommander: that would require setting up accounts
[13:57] <apachelogger> while everyone who is doing ubuntu development sooner or later needs a lp account anyway
[13:58] <NCommander> What we need is a framework to turn LP accounts into Unix accounts
[13:58] <apachelogger> otherwise I would be all for setting up a git repo ... oh, scott would probably kill us because git can be complex at times ;-)
[13:58] <apachelogger> NCommander: and a server
[13:58] <hunger> apachelogger: I do not find bzr easier...
[13:58] <NCommander> git is the base underlying philosphohy of Linux
[13:58] <NCommander> YOu can blow your foot off, but you won't care because your having so much fun with bisect
[13:59] <hunger> apachelogger: At lest when I last tried to understand it the manual was so confusing that I just gave up.
[13:59] <apachelogger> hunger: bzr got less features, so it is more difficult to break stuff
[13:59] <apachelogger> in git you can easily get lost in branches if you didn't read the manual carefully ;-)
[14:00] <hunger> apachelogger: Well, but at least the number of branches grows (slowly) over time, so you start out with a simple setup.
[14:01] <hunger> apachelogger: bzr starts with the manual going crazy about how flexible it is wrt. development model.
[14:01] <apachelogger> :D
[14:02] <hunger> That is great... but it may be a bit unfortunate to throw 50 different setups at a newbie who just wants to get his hello world under version control.
[14:04] <apachelogger> very true
[14:06] <jjesse_> what's the easiest way to tell the live cd you are running is jaunty vs intrepid?
[14:10] <apachelogger> eh
[14:10] <apachelogger> jjesse_: lsb_release -a
[14:10] <apachelogger> or something similar
[14:11] <apachelogger> jjesse_: also, jaunty is supposed to be more broken than intrepid ;-)
[14:11] <apachelogger> if it is not either intrepid was incredibly bad or jaunty is incredibly good
[14:11] <Tm_T> or both are incredibly good and we are still improving?
[14:11] <apachelogger> that would be unlogical
[14:12] <Tm_T> apachelogger: well, that's me then (:)
[14:15] <cbr> does anyone have 4.1.80 actually installed?
[14:15] <cbr> i've heard that plasma crashes a lot
[14:15] <ScottK-palm> apachelogger: I've asked that our mysql discussion go first in the Server Team meeting.
[14:15] <JontheEchidna> no, since none of us are insane to run Jaunty :P
[14:16]  * apachelogger is running KDE trunk actually
[14:16] <JontheEchidna> *insane enough to
[14:17] <cbr> i do :(
[14:17] <cbr> i cherry-pick the upgrades though
[14:18] <cbr> and never trust a -0ubuntu1 release of glibc or similar.. not after that rendered my system unusable once
[14:18] <JontheEchidna> or pam :P
[14:18] <cbr> or similar = or of similar importance, so pam too, yes :p
[14:19] <apachelogger> debian only make stuff unsecure, ubuntu always goes ahead and breaks it
[14:19] <apachelogger> hm, language engine seems to be bugged again -.-
[14:29] <jjesse> thanks apachelogger
[14:30] <jjesse> hrmm lsb_release -a shows intrepid, probablly downloaded wrong iso
[14:33] <apachelogger> NCommander: it appears subtree support is in development
[20:01] <FireRabbit> hey guys, how is it that okular-dev is at 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu3 but it's source package (kdegraphics) is 4.1.3-1ubuntu1 ?
[20:02] <ScottK> FireRabbit: What release and what architecture?
[20:02] <smarter> because it has not been built yet on Jaunty
[20:03] <smarter> ScottK: we didn't merge before Jaunty so I guess he's talking about that (:
[20:03] <FireRabbit> jaunty/amd64. ah, is it in a queue? I'm not familiar with the process.
[20:03] <smarter> nop, it needs kdelibs > 4.1.3 or whatever to build
[20:03] <smarter> and it looks like it was not available when it built
[20:03] <ScottK> FireRabbit: If you're not familiar with the process, you almost certainly shouldn't be running Jaunty right now.
[20:04] <smarter> right.
[20:04] <smarter> oh it's a know issue "E: Package libchm-dev has no installation candidate"
[20:05] <smarter> chm was demoted from main because of a security issue IIRC
[20:05] <smarter> I guess it's fixed with the 4.2beta1 packages which we'll soon upload
[20:06] <FireRabbit> well, i'm trying to help out with the kdebindings package, which is why i'm running jaunty. riddel said he was having trouble with the mono bindings.
[20:08] <ScottK> Ah.
[20:08] <ScottK> Nevermind.  Excellent reason.
[20:08] <FireRabbit> smarter: is there a website that shows the build status? where did you find that error?
[20:08] <smarter> Launchpad.
[20:08] <ScottK> We are indeed.
[20:08] <smarter> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdegraphics/4:4.1.3-1ubuntu1
[20:09] <smarter> if you're using konqueror, there's a nice shortcut, type usrc:kdegraphics to get redirected to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdegraphics
[20:09] <FireRabbit> ahh. i didn't know build logs were up there, cool.
[20:09] <smarter> diffs too, pretty useful
[20:11]  * smarter wonders wth his ISP is doing this evening to prevent google from working
[20:12] <FireRabbit> okay i'll keep an eye out for for that new upload, thanks for the info. i'm familiar with packaging, just not all the ubuntu build/release process.
[20:12] <smarter> no problem ;)
[20:12] <smarter> http://packages.ubuntu.com and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/jaunty-changes/ mighty be useful too
[20:12] <smarter> *might
[20:13]  * smarter realizes how dependent to google he is :/
[20:18] <astromme> Are there plans to work with kernel modesetting (for drivers that support it) in jaunty?
[20:18] <FireRabbit> smarter: please don't think I mean to rush you at all, but when do you think the 4.2beta1 package will be uploaded?
[20:19] <smarter> some parts have already been uploaded(see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/jaunty-changes/2008-December/thread.html)
[20:20] <smarter> I guess everything will be done by the end of the week, can't really say since I didn't(and still don't) had time to participate in 4.2b1 packaging
[20:22] <JontheEchidna> hopefully we can get everything 4.2 b1 uploaded to Jaunty today
[20:22] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger is in charge of that, but he had to go to visit somebody in the hospital
[20:22] <FireRabbit> JontheEchidna: ah awesome.
[20:23] <FireRabbit> oh, sorry to hear about that. hopefully wasn't anything serious.
[20:23] <smarter> JontheEchidna: good job guys ;)
[20:23] <JontheEchidna> Car accident, hopefully not too bad but we haven't heard much more
[20:24] <FireRabbit> yikes
[21:25] <JontheEchidna> there is a small piece of dirt casting a shadow on my plasmoid
[21:25]  * JontheEchidna cleans screen
[21:44] <jjesse> why are downloads of kubuntu iso so stinkin slow for me
[21:44] <jjesse> yay for 20kb/sec transfer rates
[21:45] <JontheEchidna> jjesse: that's about what I've been getting on the repos for updates, etc
[21:45] <jjesse> gargh all i want to do is reload my laptop from vista to kubuntu 8.10 for UDS
[21:45] <jjesse> but nope gotta wate such a stinkin slow transfer rate
[21:46] <jjesse> i have an ds-3 connection to the interwebs here at work for cryin out loud
[21:46] <jjesse> the interwebs wait for me
[22:55] <|gunni|> jjesse: Maybe to late, but: Did you try the torrent? For me it was mostly as fast as my connection after a few seconds.
[23:01]  * ryanakca wonders if Qt4 will ever be available for Haskell...
[23:25] <jjesse> thanks for he idea of using a torrent
[23:32] <JontheEchidna> jjesse: bug 268803