[00:02] <ryanhaigh> hi all, how might i go about having a project i created removed from launchpad?
[00:02] <ryanhaigh> or at least removing the current branch
[00:04] <matsubara> ryanhaigh: ask a question in https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad with a URL to the project and let me know the question number. I'll ask a LP admin to have it removed
[00:04] <matsubara> ryanhaigh: if you want only the branch removed, you can do it by yourself. what's the branch?
[00:06] <ryanhaigh> matsubara: thanks, im doing the question no
[00:06] <ryanhaigh> now
[00:08] <ryanhaigh> matsubara: the question number if #53180
[00:08] <ryanhaigh> matsubara: thanks
[00:56] <andylockran> has the recent upgrade to OpenID broken it as a provider..
[00:57] <kiko> no.
[00:58] <andylockran> no worries then.. must be something else.
[07:41] <yarko> is there a way I can remove a emailed comment from a launchpad bug?
[07:43] <Hobbsee> not usually
[07:44] <yarko> ok - so what do I need to do to get a comment out?
[07:45] <Hobbsee> you usually can't
[07:45] <Hobbsee> but, try answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[07:45] <Hobbsee> and they'll get back to you
[07:46] <yarko> thanks.....
[07:47] <yarko> I got a private email about a bug on my project - only reply-to was hidden and went to launchpad....
[07:47] <yarko> the reply needs to be private, so I made the bug private (still one person too many in the radar) ---- but the bug shouldn't be private, so I just need to remove that comment that shouldn't have gotten sent there.
[07:48] <Hobbsee> ahh
[07:48] <Hobbsee> it seems to be a case-by-case thing, but they usually don't.  OTOH, that does sound like a reasonable thing, but I have no say in the matter, i'm just a user
[07:48] <yarko> kinda sucks (at least I could make the issue private, and it didn't have the whole world subscribed to it)
[07:48] <Hobbsee> heh, yes
[07:50] <yarko> would be nice to moderate comments as project owner - sort of like group permissions power...
[08:07] <yarko> Hobbsee:  thanks for the tip / URL;  that was the right thing to do (I can see they've done this sort of thing there before).
[08:08] <Hobbsee> yarko: you're welcome :)
[13:25] <pygi> kiko_, I hear you've been bugging my project :p
[13:26] <kiko_> pygi, pimping!
[13:26] <pygi> kiko_, o, so that's what its called these days!
[13:27] <kiko_> :)
[13:56] <pygi> kiko_, thanks :)
[13:57] <kiko_> sure thing!
[13:58] <pygi> kiko_, just so you know, LP is a social network :p
[13:59] <kiko_> I'm figuring that out as I go!
[14:11] <thomas_> Hi
[14:11] <thomas_> I was referred to this place by Daniel Holbach
[14:12] <kiko_> thomas_, it's a nice place.
[14:12] <thomas_> Thanks
[14:12] <thomas_> haha
[14:12] <thomas_> Anyway
[14:12] <thomas_> It is the first time I use IRC
[14:13] <thomas_> Forgive me for the clumsiness
[14:13] <thomas_> I want to help out with Jaunty
[14:13] <kiko_> aha
[14:13] <thomas_> I was notified by Hew I should join Bug Squad
[14:14] <thomas_> I thought I was not ready for that as I do not know myself how to report bugs properly
[14:14] <thomas_> He says that is why I actually should join
[14:14] <kiko_> there's a lot of documentation available
[14:14] <kiko_> let me find the right channel for you
[14:15] <kiko_> here
[14:15] <kiko_> thomas_, #ubuntu-bugs
[14:15] <kiko_> that's the channel you want to join
[14:15] <thomas_> I cannot join because I cannot I have no gpg key
[14:15] <thomas_> Daniel Holbach send me from that channel over here
[14:16] <thomas_> You are sure it is the right channel?
[14:16] <kiko_> oh.
[14:16] <kiko_> well
[14:16] <thomas_> Anyway, Hew told me the way I do it is not constructive enough
[14:16] <thomas_> I agree
[14:17] <kiko_> let me ask daniel
[14:18] <kiko_> thomas_, he says you want to sign the CoC?
[14:19] <thomas_> But I just want to say I am now using Jaunty and have a 3 GB /var/cache/apt/archives folder.
[14:19] <thomas_> Yes
[14:19] <thomas_> I cannot do that, because I cannot upload the gpg thing to launchpad
[14:19] <kiko_> thomas_, and why can't you do that?
[14:20] <thomas_> I have bot my gmail and yahoo registered
[14:20] <thomas_> With launchpad
[14:20] <kiko_> thomas_, emails? what about your gpg key?
[14:20] <thomas_> I have created 5 so far
[14:20] <thomas_> I can upload my public part
[14:21] <thomas_> But when I enter the fingerprint
[14:21] <thomas_> and click confirm
[14:21] <kiko_> yes?
[14:21] <thomas_> Nothing happens
[14:21] <kiko_> what does nothing mean, specifically?
[14:21] <thomas_> The server does not send the email
[14:22] <thomas_> I do not know why
[14:22] <kiko_> do you get an acknowledgement notice in the web page?
[14:22] <thomas_> Yes
[14:22] <kiko_> and it says it's emailing you?
[14:22] <thomas_> and I get 30 mails a day from bugs I am subsribed to
[14:22] <thomas_> And I get launchpad digest on gmail
[14:23] <kiko_> ah, you are thomas delbeke
[14:23] <thomas_> But not the gpg thing I am supposed to decrypt
[14:23] <kiko_> thomas_, hmm. I don't quite understand how that can be happening
[14:23] <thomas_> I have gotten one in the past for both of these adresses,
[14:24] <thomas_> Me neither
[14:24] <thomas_> I have asked launchpad digest and Canonical
[14:24] <kiko_> I replied to you
[14:24] <kiko_> I'm Christian Reis
[14:24] <thomas_> I find it very weird
[14:24] <thomas_> Hi Christian, I am Thomas DElbeke
[14:24] <kiko_> I know
[14:24] <thomas_> Anyway
[14:25] <kiko_> what's your launchpad ID?
[14:25] <thomas_> I am running a dual boot
[14:25] <thomas_> TDFlanders
[14:25] <kiko_> as in cobbles
[14:25] <kiko_> no, that's not it
[14:25] <thomas_> I am almost exclusively using Jaunty now
[14:25] <kiko_> what's your user homepage URL?
[14:26] <kiko_> it's thomasdelbeke
[14:26] <thomas_> OK
[14:26] <kiko_> https://edge.launchpad.net/~thomasdelbeke/+editpgpkeys
[14:26] <kiko_> so do the following:
[14:26] <kiko_> visit that page.
[14:26] <thomas_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/~thomasdelbeke
[14:26] <kiko_> cancel the validation for that key
[14:26] <kiko_> enter it again
[14:26] <kiko_> and then see if the email gets sent
[14:27] <thomas_> OK
[14:28] <thomas_> But I have already done that for previous keys
[14:28] <thomas_> It did not change anything
[14:28] <kiko_> you should only have one key
[14:28] <thomas_> Anyway,
[14:28] <kiko_> I don't know what you mean by "previous keys"
[14:28] <kiko_> but anyway
[14:28] <thomas_> Yes I know
[14:28] <kiko_> cancel it and import again
[14:28] <kiko_> and we'll be able to see if the email is going out or not
[14:28] <thomas_> But I can not cancel the first one
[14:29] <kiko_> why not?
[14:29] <thomas_> Because I did not generate a revocation key for that
[14:29] <kiko_> you're confused
[14:29] <thomas_> How will you be able to see?
[14:29] <kiko_> I just meant cancel the validation
[14:29] <kiko_> that has nothing to do with revocation keys
[14:29] <thomas_> Oh
[14:29] <thomas_> I just did that already
[14:29] <kiko_> revocation and validation cancelling are completely different things
[14:29] <kiko_> okay
[14:30] <thomas_> So you cannot see it?
[14:30] <kiko_> now just put the same key fingerprint back into the form and import it again.
[14:30] <kiko_> you shouldn't be generating a new key -- just use the same key
[14:31] <thomas_> OK
[14:31] <thomas_> I did that
[14:31] <kiko_> great
[14:31] <kiko_> can you check your email now?
[14:31] <thomas_> So now I should get a new email?
[14:31] <thomas_> yep
[14:32] <thomas_> I do not get anything
[14:32] <thomas_> Unfortunately
[14:32] <thomas_> Although the blue box told me it was being send
[14:32] <kiko_> at thomasdelbeke@yahoo.com?
[14:32] <thomas_> yep
[14:32] <kiko_> thomas_, and you're sure it's not going into the spam folder or anything like that?
[14:33] <thomas_> A message has been sent to thomasdelbeke@yahoo.com, encrypted with the key 1024D/F51BEAE5. To confirm the key is yours, decrypt the message and follow the link inside.
[14:33] <kiko_> cool.
[14:33] <thomas_> yes
[14:33] <kiko_> not in the spam folder or anything?
[14:33] <thomas_> I checked my spam folder
[14:34] <thomas_> there is plenty in there
[14:34] <thomas_> lol
[14:34] <thomas_> not what I want
[14:34] <thomas_> I deleted the first email accidentally
[14:34] <thomas_> several weeks ago
[14:34] <kiko_> ok
[14:35] <thomas_> Anyway
[14:35] <thomas_> I can just wait for launchpad
[14:35] <kiko_> okay, I'm emailing the IS team to see if the email is being sent out or not.
[14:35] <thomas_> eh Canonical Support
[14:35] <thomas_> I mean
[14:35] <kiko_> sure
[14:35] <thomas_> They said they would do that as well
[14:36] <kiko_> thomas_, I was the one who replied to that email. i.e. They == me.
[14:36] <thomas_> Oh
[14:36] <thomas_> Sorry
[14:36] <kiko_> anyway, let's see what they tell us
[14:36] <thomas_> I meant Canonical Support
[14:36] <thomas_> In Canada
[14:36] <thomas_> hehe
[14:37] <thomas_> Ok
[14:37] <thomas_> but that takes a while I guess
[14:37] <thomas_> ?
[14:37] <kiko_> I'll get a reply back
[14:37] <thomas_> a couple of days?
[14:41] <thomas_> OK
[14:41] <thomas_> So I leave you now?
[14:41] <kiko_> you can go back to #ubuntu-bugs and work on bugs
[14:41] <thomas_> oh
[14:41] <kiko_> I'll see what is up with your GPG key email and write you back
[14:41] <thomas_> Thanks a lot!
[14:41] <thomas_> Cheers mate
[14:58] <shirish> hi all, how do I assign or choose a bug for hardy-backports?
[15:02] <Ursinha> hi shirish
[15:04] <Ursinha> do you have the bug number?
[15:24] <Ursinha> shirish, if you want to assign a bug to hardy-backports you have to choose "Also affects project" and then choose hardy-backports
[15:26] <kiko_> Ursinha, don't they use series nominations for that?
[15:27] <Ursinha> kiko_, matsubara found these bugs about that: bug 30419 and bug 244998
[15:27] <Ursinha> it seems this is how they do
[15:28] <james_w> series are used for SRUs, backports use projects
[15:28] <kiko_> hmmm
[15:29] <james_w> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[15:29] <james_w> "How to request new backports"
[15:29] <james_w> "new packages" sorry
[15:31] <kiko_> james_w, is the issue that you can't separate SRUs from backports if both used nominations?
[15:31] <james_w> I'm not sure
[15:31] <james_w> that's what I thought initially, but SRUs are for bugs, and backports for packages, so we use a new bug for a backport request
[15:32] <kiko_> sure, but the bug could still be against ubuntu and backported
[15:46] <Ursinha> jtv, jtv1, jtv2, jtv3 are you having internet issues? :)
[15:46] <jtv3> Ursinha: I blinked just now.
[15:46] <jtv3> Ursinha: looks like I blinked a lot...
[16:32] <mterry> There's no site-wide problem with LP mail or anything is there?  I haven't received mail on several projects since yesterday, despite expecting it
[16:34] <kiko_> mterry, no, none. I got lots of launchpad email today.
[16:35] <mterry> kiko_: OK, I'll look into my LP subscription settings
[16:35] <kiko_> or your spam folder <wink>
[19:30] <stelt> Can i please have all the bugs i reported on screen the second i've logged in? Time between bugs reported is just enough to forget how the h... to get to my reported bugs and answer the questions in the comments.
[19:34] <lifeless> stelt: I suggest you make a bookmark to your +bugs page
[19:37] <intellectronica> stelt: lifeless' advice stands, but i'm happy to inform you that we're working on exactly that
[19:38] <stelt> thanks, as i was just trying to advance search my way into creating the URL to bookmark.
[19:38] <intellectronica> stelt: if you have suggestions for things you'd like to access easily from a personalised homepage, file bugs or write about them to the mailing list
[21:39] <mtaylor> hey all...
[21:39]  * mtaylor is wondering why a blueprint can't depend on a bug...
[21:39] <lifeless> hasn't been implemented
[21:39] <lifeless> but also
[21:40] <lifeless> conceptually, should a /design/ depend on a /code defect/
[21:41] <mtaylor> lifeless: well, the implementation of a design might be blocked by a defect
[21:42]  * mtaylor has one of these right now...
[21:43] <mtaylor> I could just list the blueprint as "blocked" ... but then you might wonder "blocked by what?"
[21:44] <thumper> mtaylor: can't you link a spec to a bug?
[21:44] <thumper> s/spec/blueprint/
[21:45] <mtaylor> thumper: yes... but that makes me think that the dependency is the other direction... that the blueprint is a description of the bug fix
[21:45] <thumper> hmm
[21:46] <thumper> I see what you mean
[22:36] <maco> i forget how to upload to a PPA and i cant find the help page anymore. anyone got the link?
[22:37] <maco> all i remember is that the dsc is involved
[22:44] <bpierre> hi
[22:44] <wgrant> maco: It's actually the .changes that is import.
[22:44]  * wgrant finds a link.
[22:44] <wgrant> s/import/important, it's too early/
[22:45] <wgrant> https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[22:45] <Ursinha> hey maco
[22:45] <Ursinha> oh
[22:45] <Ursinha> that link :)
[22:45] <bpierre> how does launchpad do that trick where automatily create a stack branch? do you do that only by using a hook?
[22:45] <maco> wgrant: thanks
[22:45] <bpierre> *where it automatically creates
[22:45] <wgrant> bigjools: I notice the spec completely fails to say what the UIDs on the keys will be.
[22:45] <wgrant> Which is the important, unfixable and potentially disastrous thing.
[22:46] <Ursinha> thumper, ^
[22:47] <thumper> bpierre: it is magic
[22:48] <bpierre> :)
[22:48] <Ursinha> :)
[22:48] <wgrant> thumper: Magic being some config file in ~*/project where there is a trunk branch?
[22:48] <bpierre> so what's the magical formula?
[22:48] <thumper> it is a combination of the repository and branch format
[22:48] <jml> where there is a trunk branch, and the trunk branch has a stackable format.
[22:48] <thumper> and a specified trunk branch
[22:49] <jml> sorry, we show the config file all the time :)
[22:49] <jml> we trust the bazaar client to figure out whether stacking is an option, given that info.
[22:49] <bpierre> mmm
[23:06] <MTecknology> I reported a lot of bugs and went through them but I can't find them anymore...
[23:06] <Hobbsee> darn.  where's spm?
[23:06] <kiko> MTecknology, look at bugs.l.n/~you/+reportedbugs
[23:07] <MTecknology> Hobbsee: hey - any chance I could convince you to do that sometime?
[23:08] <MTecknology> kiko: ya, that's missing a whole lot of bugs I've reported. Even when I show duplicate bugs
[23:08] <Hobbsee> MTecknology: probably the ones that are actually fixed?
[23:09] <MTecknology> oh... how do I make it show fixed ones
[23:09] <MTecknology> there we go :D
[23:09] <MTecknology> thanks
[23:10] <kiko> we actually do fix bugs
[23:10] <kiko> sometimes
[23:10] <MTecknology> Hobbsee: did you ever think about anything you could say about me?
[23:10] <kiko> mostly we introduce them though
[23:10] <Hobbsee> MTecknology: not yet.  i only finished exams yesterday
[23:10]  * Hobbsee sighs at more launchpad spam
[23:10] <MTecknology> Hobbsee: oh, I start in 2 weeks
[23:17]  * Hobbsee stomps on bzr
[23:17] <Hobbsee> what are the implications of running bzr upgrade?
[23:18] <qball> Hobbsee: be gentile
[23:18] <wgrant> Hobbsee: It will upgrade your repo making it unreadable by old bzrs.
[23:18] <qball> Hobbsee: it might breake
[23:18] <qball> breake
[23:18] <qball> urhg
[23:18] <qball> brake
[23:18] <qball> stupid finger memory
[23:18] <Hobbsee> wgrant: hmmm.  So i'd better not do it for branches I don't control, then.
[23:21] <Hobbsee> qball: well that's true
[23:22] <Hobbsee> qball: i suspect it's already broken
[23:22] <qball> owh past 12 allready
[23:24] <idnar> I pushed a bzr branch, then changed my mind, so now I'm trying to delete it; but I get an "Oops!" message
[23:25] <wgrant> idnar: Known bug.
[23:25] <wgrant> Ursinha: ETA on that fix?
[23:26] <MTecknology> qball: break*
[23:26] <MTecknology> ;)
[23:26] <wgrant> MTecknology: I was going to do that, but thought it would be cruel.
[23:26] <MTecknology> I'm like that ;)
[23:26] <idnar> okay, cool
[23:27] <qball> :D
[23:27] <MTecknology> At least I'm not in my depressed time of the year - I need to walk away from everybody and everything for a month and just relax or I freak out
[23:27] <MTecknology> but I take the freak out option instead
[23:28] <Ursinha> thumper, ^
[23:28] <Ursinha> sorry thumper, don't hate me
[23:28] <Ursinha> :)
[23:29] <wgrant> Would the fix to manually remove the revisions be on edge already?
[23:30] <bpierre> ok, found it, thanks for the info thumper, jml
[23:30] <jml> np
[23:31] <bpierre> shouldn't that be added to the bazaar doc?
[23:32] <thumper> Ursinha: what's up?
[23:34] <Ursinha> thumper, wgrant wants to know about the fix of bug 301595, I guess
[23:34] <Ursinha> which is fix committed :)
[23:34] <thumper> Ursinha: fixed on edge
[23:34] <wgrant> Ursinha: idnar unknowingly wanted to know about it.
[23:35] <fta> any lp/ppa admin there? I need to know why my last upload blocks on all arches
[23:35] <thumper> idnar: I can delete it for you if you tell me which one
[23:36] <cprov> fta: "blocks" ?
[23:36] <fta> cprov, https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds/actinium
[23:36] <idnar> I just deleted it successfully through edge
[23:36] <fta> cprov, it's been like that for >1h
[23:36] <thumper> idnar: ok
[23:36] <wgrant> Blink.
[23:36] <wgrant> Why are there .tar.bz2s in there?
[23:37] <fta> cprov, it would help me if I could see what is currently running
[23:37] <fta> cprov, locally, it's all fine
[23:38] <cprov> fta: compare the logs then, what happens after cdbs
[23:41] <fta> cprov, http://paste.ubuntu.com/79546/
[23:41] <cprov> fta: I've reset the builder.
[23:42] <fta> all 9 ?
[23:42] <fta> i had builds for hardy / intrepid / jaunty for all 3 arches
[23:42] <cprov> fta: not only actinium
[23:43] <cprov> err, no, only actinium, I meant.
[23:44] <cprov> fta: seems to be in the same state already.
[23:44] <fta> could you please look at another builder and tell me which process is blocking that? I'd appreciate as i can't reproduce it locally
[23:45] <cprov> fta: yup
[23:46] <cprov> fta: exactly the same step
[23:46] <fta> ?
[23:46] <cprov> fta: https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds/hassium
[23:47] <fta> that I know but a pstree of dpkg-buildpackage would give me a clue, or a strace or something
[23:49] <fta> something is apparently blocking between these two lines:
[23:49] <fta> /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/buildcore.mk:72: parsing songbird-1.0.0-source.tar.bz2 xulrunner-1.9.0.3-source.tar.bz2 ...
[23:49] <fta> Parsing songbird-1.0.0-source.tar.bz2...
[23:50] <fta> and i can't see what as the code of cdbs is pretty simple: http://paste.ubuntu.com/79548/
[23:56] <cprov> fta: well, I don't know what to do apart from delete the source and reset the builders for now.