[13:59] <_MMA_> hmm... Where's thorwil?
[13:59] <_MMA_> kwwii: You in the states yet?
[15:07] <kwwii> _MMA_: nope, not till sat
[15:09] <_MMA_> Ahh...
[16:24] <thorwil> hi!
[16:27] <_MMA_> thorwil: Yo. :) I was thinkin' about the CSS engine template. Would it be good to design it like The Widget Factory is laid out? It's a familiar layout that might help people use the template. Just an idea.
[16:28] <thorwil> _MMA_: the button table already says no. now area by area ... maybe
[16:35] <_MMA_> Hmm... Maybe I don't understand how it works yet.
[16:35] <thorwil> why?
[16:36] <_MMA_> I *thought* it just generated a bunch of images from the template.
[17:27] <kwwii> _MMA_: I was thinking along the same lines, but there are some widgets not shown in twf iirc
[17:44] <_MMA_> kwwii: Sure, So that where we deviate.
[17:56] <_MMA_> kwwii: Do we just have an older TWF? Because I see screenshots with more widgets on it lately. More stuff at the bottom. Or an I just missing something?
[18:02] <_MMA_> Oh. Its not official. http://www.opendesktop.org/content/show.php/The+Unofficial+Widget+Factory?content=83361&PHPSESSID=ba3cd71e0e944ce027705692e622f781
[18:02] <_MMA_> Adds "expander" and "Calender".
[18:03] <kwwii> _MMA_: exactly
[18:03] <kwwii> and apparently that version still has some bugs
[18:03] <kwwii> still, I see no reason not to at least roughly base it on the same layout as twf
[18:04] <_MMA_> Kinda odd still. Why this isn't upstream. I wonder if its unmaintained?
[18:04] <_MMA_> What? The template based on TWF?
[18:05] <kwwii> well, in the end the fact that you layout all the widgets in one piece will make it roughly similar
[18:06] <_MMA_> Sure. If done right, it could look *exactly* like TWF.
[18:08] <kwwii> in the end, this is all very close to the hildon template (which is pretty complicated once you get into the fine details)
[18:16] <kwwii> time for dinner, bbl
[18:16] <_MMA_> later
[18:25] <thorwil> 8-]  https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/trunk/hildon-theme-plankton/template/template.png
[18:25]  * _MMA_ looks
[18:26] <_MMA_> thorwil: Did you do that?
[18:26] <thorwil> _MMA_: no, i'm just now looking what it is about that hildon template kwwii mentioned
[18:26] <_MMA_> Ahh...
[18:27] <thorwil> http://live.gnome.org/Hildon/ThemingOverview
[18:27] <_MMA_> Oh I see. "maemo"
[18:41] <thorwil> bonsoir nand. as soon as the old version is  out of caching, the brainstorm icon on the participate page will appear fixed :)
[18:43] <thorwil> but right now it looks extra horrible :)  http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[18:45] <nand> thorwil: oh, you got that fixed? Thanks :)
[18:46] <nand> always been pixxelated
[18:46] <thorwil> nand: np. it felt like a slap in _my_ face ;)
[18:48] <nand> I understand :)