[08:09] good morning [08:10] Alastair_, any luck ? [08:30] yea [08:31] just not with the touchscreen and touchpad :D [08:31] tell me how you got on then [08:31] btw. [08:31] http://ftp.kaist.ac.kr/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-backports-modules-2.6.27/ [08:31] easy fix for the wireless problem ^^ [08:32] just install the patch corresponding to your kernel version and architecture and voila... :D [08:32] remember when you do update to get latest linux-backports-modules-kernelNUMBER to go with new kernel [08:33] or you lose wifi again [08:34] yea... the strange thing is that it said that i have this version in the repo, but there they have only 27-7 :s (i needed 27-10) [08:34] anyway, it's working :D [08:35] i suggest you findout who wrote touchscreen driver to see if they can help configure it for your screen [08:35] now if i can fix the touchpad at least i'll be happy :D [08:36] nah, the touchscreen won't be an easy thing to fix [08:36] it seems that the only hope so far is for penmount to release a driver... [08:37] but the touchpad is another deal... there is no reason it shouldn't work otb :/ [08:37] well , i had prob with touchscreen on my MobilePro 900c with Jlime Linux and Kristofer the kernel developer modded the driver for my machine :) [08:39] he made a debug kernel for me to take down co-ordinates from screen then modded the code just for my machine :) [08:39] i think there is some sort of conflict between the touchpad and touchscreen over which one should control the pointer [08:40] ahh then just blacklist one of them :P [08:40] how xD [08:41] i prefer working touchpad over half-working touchscreen...at least for the moment [08:43] hi guys :D I've a couple of questions: does ubuntu mobile supports poulsbo chipset? what about marvell wifi? and why when i try it on my Benq MID S6 i don't have the gui as the one of the screenshot online? [08:44] sorry , i lost ability to type Alastair_ :/ hi FreeSoul brb , need a Pee [08:44] are you sure you aren't mistaking netbookremix and mobile? [08:44] :D [08:44] hagisbasheruk: nop, take your time :) [08:44] nbr is the one with fancy gui [08:44] Alastair_: no, i downloaded the one from teh topic and the daily release of 17 [08:45] can you show me the screenshot xD [08:45] Alastair_: no :( it's just a list of applications with a top bar with home button, network and so on :) [08:45] Alastair_: can you give me the url of the one you mentioned? [08:46] do you mean this one http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu/nbr ? [08:47] ah no no, wait :) [08:47] http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile [08:47] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/release/ubuntu-8.10-umpc-i386.img for 7 to 10" screens [08:47] anyway Benq MID S6 is a mid, not a netbook, it has 4.8" screen and so on [08:48] so you want http://releases.ubuntu.com/intrepid/ubuntu-8.10-mid-lpia.img [08:48] yeah i've installed exactly that :) [08:49] anyway i don't care a lot about gui... i need drivers to work :D [08:50] if you have done an install the look on your usb/flash device for..... [08:51] linux-backports-modules-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.4_i386 in debs folder [08:51] uhmm no, i runned it as live from usb [08:51] what this file should do? [08:51] click on it to install , well thats if they put it on the mid image [08:52] adds missing driver modules [08:52] ah good! [08:53] i've tryed some modprobe from the live but with no success. It can only see the bluetooth :) no wifi, no 3g and so on. [08:53] i duno if its on the mid image though but it is on the umpc image [08:53] also the switch on/off is not working [08:53] i see [08:54] btw. hagisbasheruk does your integrated mic work ? [08:54] i can't get mine to work in apps :s [08:54] * hagisbasheruk is new to ubuntu-mobile and ubuntu in general but i am sure ogra or some of the other devs can help if you have probs [08:54] i duno Alastair_ [08:55] lol, benq mid comes with integrated mic and no software to use it [08:55] skype ? :D [08:55] so is the integrated mice the mic or frontmic in the mixer ? [08:55] or the voice recorder that comes with ubuntu [08:56] frontmic... [08:56] at least for me [08:56] yeah... tryed but there are two problems: no way to make skype work with the sound card and at midinux they didn't set sw keyboard as input for X [08:56] easy and fast test to see if it works at all - boost it to the max and if there is echo - it's working xD [09:00] btw. the cam is working too... and for my surprise it's recording at 1280x1024, under vista the max was 640x480 ^^ [09:00] try some of the sound fixes on that aspire page i linked you to yesterday [09:01] ooohh :) [09:01] hagisbasheruk: where is the deb directory supposed to be? [09:02] "/deb/ on /dev/your_device" [09:02] hm.. [09:02] the sound system is working just fine, the problem is i can't tell skype or the other programs to use the frontmic as source :s [09:02] tried alsa&pulse from the sound settings, nothing works :/ [09:03] thats why i said see soun fix [09:04] plug your device into a pc and you will see it FreeSoul [09:05] hagisbasheruk: my mid has just one mini usb port. On that i've the usb flash driver with ubuntu live... what else can i don? i'm in / and looking for a deb directory [09:05] i never saw it until i did install as i couldn't access my /dev/sdb usb device as it was in use via the live image [09:06] type mount to see whats mounted [09:06] brb , need power cord from downstairs [09:07] FreeSoul in the flashdrive's root dir there should be deb dir [09:09] but i'm not sure if there is such a dir in the lpia image [09:09] Alastair_: /deb/sdb is mounted as /cdrom and there no deb directory in it. I've casper, preseed, boot.msg, initrd.img, ldlinux.sys syslinux.cfg [09:09] yep, i'm running lpia [09:10] yeah... no backports for you then :/ [09:10] yeah :) [09:10] what's the model of the wifi chipset ? [09:10] damn i've the damn sensation i'll must use this stupid Midinux still for lot of time.... [09:11] Alastair_: it should be a marvell wifi [09:11] i need to reboot mid to find it out [09:11] rebooting in midinux :) [09:12] anyway, i'd like to know why they did such a mess at Midinux [09:12] http://www.google.bg/search?hl=bg&q=ubuntu+lpia+marvell&btnG=%D0%A2%D1%8A%D1%80%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B5&meta= [09:12] at least you're not alone xD [09:13] yes.... but really, it was lot lot of time that i didn't saw anything so bad designed [09:14] Alastair_: marvell 8686_v9 [09:14] mabey you can perswade someone to add your driver to the mid image ;) if you cannot get the linux-backports-modules file on your device [09:15] hagisbasheruk: i really dunno who to write to. I've managed to contact also benq mid s6 product manager! [09:16] hagisbasheruk, he is using different architecture, there's no backports package for him :D [09:16] i've also drivers source code that are in Midinux [09:16] what cpu does it have ? [09:16] hagisbasheruk: atom 800MHz [09:17] atom :? [09:17] intel atom [09:17] weren't the atoms i386 [09:17] so linux-backports-modules is what he needs [09:17] Alastair_: yes, it's a damn x86 :) [09:18] try this [09:18] http://ftp.kaist.ac.kr/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-backports-modules-2.6.27/linux-backports-modules-2.6.27-10-generic_2.6.27-10.8_i386.deb [09:18] it's Intel Atom Z500 [09:18] i thought it was with some kind of xscale [09:19] download the file to your devices memory / boot ubuntu mid and mount your memory device and install file [09:19] Alastair_: oh, no, please no :) [09:19] hagisbasheruk: ok man :) [09:19] well, if it's x86 the file from the link must work... [09:20] hm... btw. w8 [09:20] what's your kernel's version xD [09:20] this package is for 2.6.27-10... [09:20] 2.6.22.18-2 [09:21] Alastair_: of course it will use kernel from ubuntu live that is 2.6.27 [09:21] nice device bye the way :) [09:21] hagisbasheruk: yes, nice device, damn horrible software [09:21] or, better, worst "linux" (yes, they call it linux) system ever [09:21] http://ftp.kaist.ac.kr/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-backports-modules-2.6.22/ [09:22] i can't find 2.6.22-18 :s [09:22] uname -r in your terminal FreeSoul to determine ubuntu kernel [09:22] you need the right file to go with it [09:23] hagisbasheruk: now i'm running midinux... to download the deb file, it's 2.6.22.18-2 [09:23] after reboot i'll use lpia kernel that is 2.6.27 [09:26] ahh :) so you need one from http://ftp.kaist.ac.kr/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-backports-modules-2.6.27/ [09:26] i think the i386 package won't install on it, but you can always try xD [09:28] why should it not install? i hope it will not ask for dependecies [09:28] it should [09:28] install [09:29] nope, at least it didn't ask me... but i think there is a reason they have two images (i386 and lpia xD ) [09:29] lol [09:30] this will be one of last tests i'll do... next I'll take plane for China, go at Midinux headquartier and I'll kill everybody :D [09:30] lpia is Low Power Intel Architecture [09:30] idk if they are different architectures tho xD [09:30] maybe i'm just thinking too much xD [09:30] linux-backports-modules-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.4_i386 in debs folder , its i386 [09:31] damn i've downloaded 2.6.27-10_i386! [09:31] ok i'm booting ubuntu... let's see [09:31] that's why i told you to watch out for the version [09:31] same but one is compiled with flags for power saving stuff for atom [09:31] if you haven't updated the installation it probably uses 2.6.27-7 [09:32] hmmm [09:32] Alastair_: i'm booting from live... i check the kernel version, i try to install -10 and if it fails i go back to midinux, download -7 and repeat the step [09:33] FreeSoul, just uname -r in terminal first to see what kernel you have [09:33] hagisbasheruk: yes yes i know, i'm sysadmin :) [09:33] the pic same as for modules [09:33] ok :P [09:34] damn :) it's 2.6.27-4 :) [09:35] ok i try to install -10 anyway :) [09:35] don't do stupid things xD [09:35] lol [09:36] wait ill get you file [09:36] http://ftp.kaist.ac.kr/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-backports-modules-2.6.27/linux-headers-lbm-2.6.27-7-server_2.6.27-7.4_i386.deb [09:36] 27-7.4 or 27-4 ? [09:37] 2.6.27-4 [09:38] no backports for that... [09:38] and i gave you the wrong link anyway xD [09:38] you don't need server headers xD [09:41] just to know... i'm not a ubuntu/debian user. to install a from a local package? apt-get install file.deb? [09:41] nope, just doubleckick it [09:42] installing from terminal involves dpkg, not apt-get [09:42] here it says: packages list... done, building dependecy tre... done, could not file file bla bla.deb [09:42] ok [09:42] just for fun, how to install from terminal? [09:42] dpkg ? [09:42] dpkg --help :D [09:42] ok [09:44] damn! trying to install the -10 (ok don't worry about version) it says that kernel arch is lpia, not i386! [09:44] brb [09:46] ahh ... [09:48] back :) [09:48] google is not my friend today , i am too sleepy [09:48] so with the arch problem may be a huge one [09:48] nah , just idle her till devs wake [09:49] here* [09:49] auihaiuhaiuhaiuhaiuah how not :) [09:49] i'm sure they will magically switch on on their own [09:50] while you wait you might like to read , very good reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/openweekintrepid/UMPC [09:51] hagisbasheruk: yep but this umpc related [09:51] am i wrogn? [09:52] still give insite into whats happening [09:53] i can tell you also a nice new.... it's happening that intel is not releasing public updated drivers for this devices... and consider that the drivers inside Midinux are written by intel [09:55] wasn't mandriva making something for mids? am i wrong? I really hope not be forced to use mandriva :) but it's for sure, better then midinux :P [09:57] brb 10 mins need cuppa and toast [10:01] http://www.umpcportal.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=3912&start=15 [10:02] btw. for keyboard you can try cellwriter [10:03] virtual kb for touchscreen devices, it's included in the umpc version [10:07] Alastair_: it's me the TDFS there, i wrote the review :) [10:12] :) [10:16] no bread left , i am not going out in that snow , settled for a couple of small pork pies for breakfast :) [10:17] :P [10:28] aw, i'm making crème caramel for lunch xD [10:29] Alastair_: :) [10:29] mmm... [10:29] when is it planned next mid release? [10:29] april 2009... [10:29] ahahhahahahaa [10:30] 5 months! [10:30] but maybe they'll release beta/alpha before that [10:30] Alastair_: yeah i regurarly try the daily build [10:30] yup 9.04 , ie 2009 04 month [10:31] i'm quite sure Benq will give still no updates... even if they are promising.... who wanna bet? :) [10:31] most manufacturers tend to do that :/ [10:31] i think they are just damn stupids! [10:32] a device without drivers... what the hell do they think user will buy it for?? to see in switched off on the desk? [10:32] as soon as they reap the initial profit they gradually leave the support for their devices lying in the dust xD [10:33] Alastair_i think i'm one of the poor stupid dreamers with hope in mid devices... [10:33] yea, i hope they drag more attention to them, but we'll see [10:34] yep... [10:34] i even considered to buy nokia n810 or the new giga with 7" screen [10:34] anyway i think i'll never buy anything from benq again [10:34] cuz the netbook ain't that easy to use while on foot :D [10:34] Alastair_: n810 is nice but with small screen resolution... an all 7"+ staff can't fit in your pocket [10:35] Alastair_: yep, you can't bring it anywhere [10:36] nah, i take it everywhere with me and it's pretty usefull, just not comfortable to use while walking on the street [10:36] Alastair_: hahah [10:37] it's tablet, not regular one ;) [10:37] uh, much better [10:37] with linux? [10:37] ARM are getting in on the netbooks with ubuntu suporting them , i look forward to a netbook from them that will last all day on 1 charge [10:37] untill yesterday it was with vista [10:37] Alastair_: now? ubuntu? [10:37] yea [10:38] nice :) [10:38] still has some problems, but i hope they'll be fixed soon [10:38] Alastair_, do you still have vista on it olso ? [10:38] i damn need an os for my mid.... [10:38] nope, the vista is gone xD [10:40] why don't you start a thread in the forums [10:40] maybe someone'll help you there... [10:40] i really didn't like vista , i tried it on my Acer Aspire One A150 , ran great but it sux as an OS , Mac OSX86 is great on it though :) [10:41] i don't like it either, but i can't remove it from my main pc yet :/ [10:42] the day valve ports their source engine to linux i'll never touch windows again ^^ [10:43] my misses now has my pc since i got the AAO , she has XP Media Center Edition [10:43] by guys, c ya! thanks for helping me [10:43] have a nice day [10:43] cya [10:43] later.. :D [10:43] u 2 [10:43] :) [10:44] i made a 2nd pc for that purpose :p [10:45] the main rig is mine and mine alone :D [10:49] i just share files/drives on the network so that gives me access to my movies and music etc without having to have them on my netbook :) [10:50] great for installing unreal tournament etc in linux [10:51] plus netbook has no cdrom drive [10:51] quake3 runs great on this :) [10:52] i was very surprised [10:53] nah, i'm more addicted gamer... [10:53] that's why i keep the windows installation :/ [10:53] but if they release some of my favourite games on linux i'll definitely move forever [10:54] i have ps3/xbox360/wii/ds/gizmondo for that [10:54] i had ps3 and x360, it's just not the same :/ [10:55] on top of that after the thousands of euro spent on the pc i don't want it to be just a home cinema ^^ [10:55] virtualbox is very good , well on my pc anyway , q3 ran great, never tried crysis though [10:56] yea about that... [10:56] what's the deal ? [10:56] does it bring native performance in the games or... ? [10:56] never quite understood the concept.. :s [10:56] install it and then install a os to run on it then u have windows on linux [10:57] near native speed now [10:57] interesting [10:57] so should run everything fine :) [10:57] after my new drive arrives i'll try it xD [10:58] what cpu u got ? [10:58] q6600 @ 4.1g [10:58] it's running at 3.6 most of the time tho... [10:58] way too much heat and wasted electricity otherwise xD [10:59] ahh so that will be great with vbox [10:59] what about the video ? [10:59] kill windows on your pc [11:00] its fine [11:00] i mean how does it work... do i have to install drivers in the guest os or something ? [11:00] i must try virtual box on this :) todAY [11:01] i can't... i deleted the ubuntu cuz i ran out of space... i purchased a new hdd but it won't be here for a few more days... [11:01] install it , run it ,make virtual drive, install XP , Vista or Linux, install games , smile :) [11:02] brb [11:04] i wish i was in the US :/ [11:04] why [11:04] we have to wait so much time to get exotic hardware here... not to speak about the price -.- [11:05] i buy straight from hong kong / china mostly now [11:06] i buy from germany... mostly... but the shipping is so damn slow... [11:07] yes , 2 weeks from hongkong/china [11:07] where are you ? [11:08] still in bed [11:08] :) i am on holiday [11:08] snow outside [11:09] Scotland :P [11:09] ^^ [11:09] well, china is in another continent xD [11:09] but germany is some 1500km from me... [11:10] there's no logic why i have to wait 2 or more weeks for a simple lightweight package :/ [11:10] i would have that in 1-2 days here in the UK [11:13] this is some glitch that happened when DHL transfered their shipping service to the national postal service [11:13] before that my packages arrived in max 3-4 days [11:15] doesn't matter anyway... if it doesn't come soon i'll go buy HD103UJ... [11:15] at least they can be found on our market :s [11:16] and are extremely cheap ^^ [11:23] back l8a , got housework to do [14:35] how can i record the mobile usb image in a cd? [14:35] i try but it doesn't boot [14:36] it is a disk image dd if=imagename.img of=/dev/usbdevicename [14:37] yes i know, but i have to install in a old pc that doesn't support usb boot [14:40] convert img to a bootable iso and burn [14:43] i try that also but then the cd doesn't boot [14:44] what os is o the pc now ? [14:46] filipegarcia, ? [14:46] xp [14:47] okay do you have usb ? [14:47] yes [14:47] and usb flash card ? [14:47] yes [14:48] update the bios of the old pc to get usb boot option [14:49] or download puppy linux live cd and burn that and boot into puppy with image file on the usb flash [14:49] ok, thanks [14:50] mount your hdd and usb , move image to hdd and then dd if=image.img of=/dev/sdb or whatever your usb will be [14:51] ohh that still wont help [14:52] because it wont boot also [14:52] i guess the update bios would be the better choice [14:53] but it's lot of work also [14:53] you need magic iso run that in XP and make iso from img [14:56] but i can record the img to the cd [14:58] try magic iso and make cd bootable [14:59] brb [15:01] ok [15:06] back === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson === fta_ is now known as fta === merriam_ is now known as merriam === hagisbasheruk is now known as haggis-AAO-umpc [23:20] hi Alastair [23:39] hi [23:39] :D [23:39] any progress ?? [23:39] nah, i just got back, haven't played with it... [23:40] btw. [23:41] i have been tweeking my video and got sdcard readers working here [23:41] on the vurtiabox forums i saw some posts that it doesn't support direct3d, only directdraw... how do you play 3d games o_O [23:41] ohh .... mabey i played them in wine [23:42] hmm.. ? what tweaking xD i thought the intel driver does all the work [23:43] btw. my cardreader works otb :s [23:43] http://www.winehq.org/ [23:43] yesterday i tested it with my photo's card... [23:44] :) [23:45] do the tweeks from that acer aspire one link and you gain some FPS [23:46] in GL screensavers are 2 times as fast [23:47] wine works, but it's far from a solution :/ [23:47] i played hl1:source hl2 and it's episodes through wine, but it's just not the same as native environment... [23:48] i am sure there was a plugin for virtualbox that gave 3d acceleration [23:48] and i hear l4d is even worse :/ [23:49] does your syndaemon work ? [23:50] mine says i'm missing shmconfig or something [23:52] yup [23:53] yup it works, or yup you're missing shmconfig too xD [23:54] duno , how to test [23:54] open terminal and type syndaemon [23:55] yup , it works [23:56] can you post me your xorg.conf in private ? [23:56] i see enable and dissable when i type and move the pad [23:56] sudo syndaemon [23:57] 2 secs [23:57] mine says "Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?" [23:58] probably that's why my touchpad doesn't work