[03:22] <[reed]> boo, UDS is at the Crittenden Complex
[03:22] <[reed]> not the Googleplex
[03:23] <[reed]> that's a long walk back to Mozilla :(
[08:29] <noosferema> hello everyone
[08:30] <noosferema> i have gathered a number of linux users in Tanzania that are willing to start working on the translation of ff3 to swahili
[08:30] <noosferema> i need some light as where to start
[08:32] <noosferema> someone please help me
[09:33] <asac> [reed]: oh :/ ... for me all this is far, far away ;)
[09:34] <asac> fta: yeah lets loiter the archive with huge -dbg packages
[10:16] <asac> sebner: congrats!!
[10:16]  * sebner hides
[10:17] <sebner> asac: thx :D
[10:17] <asac> sebner: now you can help here ;)
[10:17] <asac> - even more ;)
[10:17] <sebner> asac: epiphany ftw! :P
[10:44] <asac> fta: you remember that we had issues with something abrowser related on amd64?
[10:45] <asac> fta: some pref was empty or something
[10:58] <gnomefreak> crapload of meetings today, seems -meeting is gonna be busy today
[10:59] <asac> heh
[10:59] <asac> gnomefreak: hi!
[10:59] <gnomefreak> asac: good morning
[11:02] <gnomefreak> we are being complained about on the firefox dev list. we dont release fast enough
[11:03] <asac> gnomefreak: reference?
[11:04] <asac> you have a link?
[11:05] <asac> gnomefreak: which list is that on?
[11:07] <gnomefreak> give me a sec.
[11:08] <gnomefreak> the list looks to be dev-apps-firefox@lists.mozilla.org
[11:09] <gnomefreak> im grabbing link to topic
[11:11] <gnomefreak> asac: here is the link to the topic
[11:11] <gnomefreak> oops
[11:11] <gnomefreak> asac: http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.apps.firefox/browse_thread/thread/e962dfa292eb4200#
[11:13] <asac> gnomefreak: dont see any real complain there
[11:13] <asac> gnomefreak: just that the user doesnt know how to update his system ;)
[11:14] <gnomefreak> could be. i took the part about us not having released security update as fast as he would like. but i can see what you mean
[11:16] <asac> at least there is no direct accusation
[11:16] <asac> ;)
[11:18] <gnomefreak> Topic: Please no Firefox bars in SeaMonkey 2.0 is a good one
[11:18] <asac> heh
[11:18] <asac> in dev-apps-firefox?
[11:18] <asac> interesting ;)
[11:21] <gnomefreak> asac: dev-apps-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-apps-seamonkey
[11:22] <asac> ah ;)
[11:23] <gnomefreak> seems sunbird 1.0 is gonna have UI changes like the wweek month ect... are being replaced with tabs
[11:24] <asac> hmm ... ok
[11:24] <asac> not sure if thats better though
[11:24] <asac> but well
[11:25] <gnomefreak> what does this mean? The current command did not succeed.  The mail server responded: No messages match. (Failure)
[11:25] <gnomefreak> .
[11:25] <gnomefreak> im getting tires of seeing that
[11:25] <gnomefreak> tired*
[11:25] <asac> gnomefreak: hmm
[11:26] <asac> gnomefreak: did you try to compact your folder?
[11:26] <asac> or remove the .msf files?
[11:26] <asac> maybe your cache is corrupted or out of sync with reality
[11:27] <gnomefreak> ok ill play with it see if i can find .msf or ill even start with new profile
[11:31] <gnomefreak> i dont see any .msf files but maybe ill try empting/removing .thunderbird-3.0/*.default/Cache
[11:32] <gnomefreak> brb making coffee and smoke
[11:33] <asac> dolske: hi! could you look at the review i asked for in 394610 a while back ... 1.8.0 branch. but ... ;)
[11:39] <asac> gnomefreak: hmm .... 3.0 doesnt use mfs anymore?
[11:39] <asac> gnomefreak: i have a bunch of them in my profile
[11:40] <asac> mfs
[11:40] <asac> msf
[11:40] <asac> ;)
[11:40] <gnomefreak> where?
[11:41] <gnomefreak> ~/.thunderbird-3.0/4rdbxcll.default has none
[11:42] <gnomefreak> ah its in IMAP
[11:42] <gnomefreak> but im not using IMAP i thought
[11:43] <gnomefreak> ok got rid of them
[11:43] <gnomefreak> will test when updates are done
[11:48] <gnomefreak> asac: NCommander seems to be fairly active in kubuntu-devel
[11:48] <asac> [reed]: i have some questions ;) ... will just take a minute if you need some distraction ;)
[11:49] <asac> gnomefreak: are we waiting for something from him?
[11:49] <gnomefreak> we denied him membership due to lack of work/experiance
[11:50] <gnomefreak> something like that IIRC
[11:51] <asac> lack of work
[11:51] <asac> contributions i think
[11:51] <gnomefreak> removing .msf files doesnt fix it
[11:51] <asac> not experience
[11:51] <gnomefreak> yeah that sounds better
[11:51] <asac> i said it was fine with me .... but we ask more than just one contribution
[11:51] <asac> he did one icedove update iirc
[11:51] <gnomefreak> ah
[11:53] <asac> asked him whats going on ;)
[11:53] <gnomefreak> you did?
[11:54] <gnomefreak> asac: what is chromium-*
[11:56] <asac> gnomefreak: chromium is to chrome what mozilla is to firefox ;)
[11:56] <gnomefreak> oh
[11:58] <gnomefreak> chrome is in FF source as i recall, why would we need it as another package?
[12:12]  * gnomefreak restarting
[12:26] <gnomefreak> can we remove Firefox 3 released to hardy-updates! from topic yet?
[12:28] <Nafallo> and the colon, and the extra whitspace ? :-)
[12:32] <asac> gnomefreak: go ahead ;)
[12:32] <gnomefreak> k as soon as im done with blogs
[12:34] <Nafallo> whitespace damnit
[12:34] <gnomefreak> i knew what you meant :)
[12:36] <Nafallo> meeh. whitespace and colon still there ;-)
[12:37] <Nafallo> eam: |  Mai
[12:37] <asac> and next meeting TBA ;)
[12:37] <gnomefreak> | Next meeting TBA, if you  is how it should be no?
[12:38] <asac> gnomefreak: wasnt that announced yet?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> whitespace after Mailing Lists is only due to address not fitting on same line
[12:38] <gnomefreak> asac: i havent seen any meeting announcement
[12:38] <Nafallo> it's before Mailing List :-)
[12:38] <Nafallo> aha
[12:38] <Nafallo> ehrm
[12:38] <Nafallo> odd
[12:39] <Nafallo> I thought that depended on what width you have on your client? ;-)
[12:39] <asac> gnomefreak: not?
[12:39] <asac> gnomefreak: maybe the mail needs moderation?
[12:39] <gnomefreak> yeah it does
[12:39] <gnomefreak> asac: looking at agenda
[12:39] <gnomefreak> nope no meeting set AFAIK
[12:40] <gnomefreak> no one did minutes?
[12:40] <asac> gnomefreak: i have to ... do you remember the date of last meeting?
[12:40] <asac> have to dig up the logs
[12:41] <gnomefreak> you would ask that :(
[12:41] <gnomefreak> one minute i think i can find it
[12:42] <gnomefreak> asac: 2008-11-20 looks to be right
[12:42] <gnomefreak> as i recall i edited the page after meeting
[12:42] <asac> 20 11?
[12:42] <asac> it definitly was longer ago
[12:42] <gnomefreak> nov 20
[12:42] <asac> not just two weeks ;)
[12:43] <gnomefreak> 195  2008-11-20 06:01:17  1884   gnomefreak  Updated for next meeting, Leaving agenda until it is finished and minutes are posted.  view
[12:43] <asac> yeah
[12:43] <asac> hmm
[12:43] <gnomefreak> asac: nov 2nd?
[12:43] <asac> wasnt that the weekend after release?
[12:43] <asac> yeah that sounds more reasonable
[12:44] <gnomefreak> your edit has nov 2nd shown on wiki
[12:44] <gnomefreak> When: November 2nd, 2008
[12:44] <gnomefreak> Where: #ubuntu-meeting on the Freenode Network
[12:44] <asac> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/11/02/%23ubuntu-meeting.txt
[12:44] <asac> seems to be a mozilla meeting there ;)
[12:45] <gnomefreak> thats the one
[12:45] <asac> gnomefreak: so how do minutes work? fill in the meeting page and then copy that ?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> i hate parent teacher confrences
[12:45] <gnomefreak> im not sure ive never done them
[12:54] <asac> gnomefreak: is your kid already that old?
[13:03] <gnomefreak> asac: i have a son from x-wife and a little girl with current g/f
[13:05] <gnomefreak> son is 14 and the baby is 22 months
[13:06] <asac> gnomefreak: is volans a member yet?
[13:06] <asac> gnomefreak: oh. didnt know about the older son ;)
[13:07] <gnomefreak> not sure. i dont remember seeing him apply
[13:07] <gnomefreak> E: read, still have 1625108 to read but none left
[13:07] <gnomefreak> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[13:07] <gnomefreak> i hate dpkg today
[13:08] <gnomefreak> asac: i dont normally talk about him since i dont see him everyday due to his mother being a <insert bad word here>
[13:10] <gnomefreak> ill be back, i need to get ready to go meeting is in 1 1/2 hours
[13:29] <asac> ok meeting minutes done ;) ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Meetings/Minutes/2008-11-02
[13:41] <asac> http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/155-Ubuntu-MozillaTeam-Meeting-Minutes-Nov,-2-2008.html
[14:11] <[reed]> asac: it's about a mile from Mozilla
[14:11] <[reed]> asac: I'll be around later if you need me
[14:11] <[reed]> going to class now
[14:53] <asac> [reed]: what hotel was the bad internet connectivity one?
[16:50] <[reed]> asac: Wild Palms
[16:50] <[reed]> we're at the Domain Hotel, though
[16:50] <[reed]> never been there, so dunno about internet
[16:52] <asac> [reed]: good. i think we stay at Domain too
[16:52] <asac> uncertainty is definitly better than certainty to have bad access ;)
[16:54] <[reed]> hehe
 [reed]: i have some questions ;) ... will just take a minute if you need some distraction ;)
[16:55] <[reed]> any other questions?
[16:59] <fta2> [reed], are you sure we're not at Wild Palms ?
[17:01] <fta2> asac, ^^
[17:01] <[reed]> fta2: yeah, I confirmed with jcastro
[17:01] <fta2> where is that mentionned ?
[17:02] <[reed]> in the e-mail
[17:02] <[reed]> that we got last week
[17:02] <fta2> damn, I sent to myself something at the Wild palms
[17:03] <[reed]> well, the wiki page says Wild Palms because that's the overflow hotel
[17:03] <[reed]> for those Canonical isn't paying for
[17:03] <fta2> overflow hotel ?
[17:03] <[reed]> yeah, Canonical bought every room in the Domain Hotel
[17:03] <fta2> damn
[17:04] <[reed]> must be a small hotel
[17:04] <fta2> what am i supposed to do now?
[17:04] <[reed]> well, they aren't far from each other
[17:04] <[reed]> you could call the Wild Palms and explain the problem... say you'll just pick it up next week
[17:05] <[reed]> they are about 1/2 mile apart
[17:06] <[reed]> fta2: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=1085+East+El+Camino+Real,+Sunnyvale,+CA+94087+(Domain+Hotel)&daddr=910+E+Fremont+Ave,+Sunnyvale,+CA+94087+(Wild+Palms+Hotel)&hl=en&geocode=FfX1OQIdk2W6-CEzs7NWYRi52A%3BCcOzhSoacpGzFfnvOQIdyTi6-CFKCwVYHFXddA&mra=pe&mrcr=0&dirflg=w&sll=37.352183,-122.02643&sspn=0.048238,0.077248&ie=UTF8&z=16
[17:08] <[reed]> and the bus may go to both hotels
[17:08] <[reed]> to pick up people
[17:08] <[reed]> I dunno
[17:08] <[reed]> you could check with Clare
[17:08] <[reed]> Claire*
[17:21] <directhex> Get:12 http://mirror.ox.ac.uk jaunty/main xulrunner-1.9-dev 1.9.0.4+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 [4565kB]
[17:38] <fta2> [reed], done, I called the Domain, they'll take care of everything
[17:38] <fta2> or at least I hope so
[19:07] <asac> [reed]: i wanted to commit stuff and wondered how to document if a patch has been reviewed by two folks... but found an example
[19:08] <[reed]> r=bar r=foo
[19:08] <[reed]> r+sr=bar if the same person granted both
[19:08] <asac> [reed]: yeah. i found r=bar,foo
[19:08] <[reed]> I don't like that format personally
[19:08] <[reed]> find it better to keep them separate
[19:09] <asac> [reed]: ok
[19:09] <asac> [reed]: some commits seem to just say r=x sr=y a=z ... while some put a / in between
[19:09] <asac> [reed]: is there some official format ;)
[19:09] <asac> ?
[19:10] <[reed]> no
[19:10] <[reed]> just include bug #, description of patch/bug, reviewers, approvals
[19:10] <[reed]> no real standardized format
[19:11] <[reed]> what bug are you committin?
[19:11] <[reed]> =g
[19:11] <[reed]> +g*
[19:11] <asac> [reed]: some use p=reed ...some say Patch by Reed Looden <reed@...>
[19:11] <asac> i sasume the patch credits deserve details?
[19:12] <[reed]> oh, it's not your patch?
[19:12] <[reed]> is this CVS or Hg?
[19:12] <asac> [reed]: CVS ...
[19:12] <[reed]> yeah, for CVS, you have to include the patch author
[19:12] <[reed]> for Hg, you can just commit as that user
[19:12] <[reed]> using hg commit -u
[19:12] <asac> [reed]: how to set the patch author in hg
[19:12] <asac> ok
[19:13] <asac> [reed]: hmm ... doesnt hg have the notion of "Committer: vs. Author:" ... like git does?
[19:13] <[reed]> hg commit -u "Alexander Sack <asac@jwsdot.com>"
[19:13] <[reed]> etc.
[19:13] <[reed]> not really, but we keep a lot of who really commits the patch
[19:13] <asac> thought i saw committs with both
[19:13] <asac> hmm
[19:13] <[reed]> a log*
[19:13] <asac> let me browse the hg page ... but most likely i just confuse with some git archive ;)
[19:14] <[reed]> lol
[19:15] <asac> [reed]: i alsways thought you imported the CVS history to hg and then auto synched there for a while
[19:15] <asac> [reed]: part of that thought seems to bewrong
[19:15] <asac> as hg blame mostly has all revision 1
[19:16] <[reed]> we did import some history from CVS into Hg
[19:16] <[reed]> not much, though
[19:16] <asac> [reed]: so you startred at some point and then synched for a whlie i guess?
[19:16] <[reed]> yes
[19:16] <[reed]> for a while
[19:16] <asac> ok that explains blame is so useless
[19:16] <[reed]> correct
[19:17] <asac> are there any efforts to ever fix that? i dont want blame, but i like to look at the bugs that lead to a commit
[19:17] <asac> currently i always have to go to old mozilla mxr
[19:17] <asac> which probably will become quite hard at some point ;) ... when the code drifts further away
[19:18] <[reed]> no
[19:32] <asac> [reed]: its about mozilla bug 413135 ... the combined patch by caillon is what should get committed
[19:33] <[reed]> so, my commit message would be:
[19:34] <[reed]> the combined patch has both patches in it?
[19:34] <[reed]> if so, I'd do something like
[19:34] <[reed]> Bug 413135 - "Prevent canceling individual keystrokes on input type="file"" [p=Olli.Pettay@gmail.com (Smaug) r+sr=bzbarsky r+sr=sicking a=caillon]
[19:35] <[reed]> that's my personal style
[19:35] <[reed]> if it's only one patch or the other, change reviewers appropriately
[19:35] <[reed]> etc.
[19:36] <asac> ok i think i get it.
[19:37] <asac> [reed]: why sicking instead of jonas ;)?
[19:37] <[reed]> usually use IRC nicks
[19:37] <asac> ok
[19:37] <[reed]> though, I use bzbarsky instead of bz, but whatever
[19:37] <asac> hmm.
[19:37] <[reed]> IRC nicks are more common
[19:37] <asac> probably look at precedence
[20:13] <fta> [reed], what email were you referring to earlier today?
[20:14] <[reed]> you and your e-mail problems
[20:14] <[reed]> lol
[20:15] <[reed]> Subject: UDS Final Notice
[20:15] <[reed]> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:17:25 -0500
[20:16] <[reed]> From: "Jorge O. Castro" <jorge@ubuntu.com>
[20:16] <[reed]> look for that
[20:16] <fta> i have that one
[20:16] <fta> oh, ok
[20:17] <fta> the supershuttle email
[20:26] <fta> asac, seems like you arrive in SFO ~30min after me. want to share the taxi/shuttle/whatever?
[20:54] <fta> asac, no ! xulrunner-1.9.1.head #379
[20:55] <fta> i need both xul -dev in the same chroot
[20:55] <fta> otherwise, i can't build both ff
[20:57] <asac> its a trade-off
[20:57] <asac> either you need to adjust each and every package you want to build against 1.9.1
[20:57] <asac> or to accept that -dev packages conflict
[20:58] <asac> i dont see a better solution ... we could divert stuff
[20:58] <asac> but sounds like over complicated
[20:58] <asac> if you really need it we can look into diversion
[20:58] <fta> divert will not solve anything
[20:58] <asac> fta: yes it will
[20:59] <fta> how, manually change each time i switch branch ?
[20:59] <asac> fta: ff doesnt even  use pkg-config for sdkdir
[20:59] <asac> fta: ff doesnt use pkg-config  but --with-libxul-sdk
[20:59] <fta> i know
[21:00] <fta> but i still need the two -dev
[21:00] <asac> fta: yes. currently it conflicts because i didnt see any issues with having both conflict
[21:00] <asac> diversions would remove conflict
[21:00] <asac> obviously ;)
[21:01] <asac> fta: do you need the same chroot for both?
[21:02] <fta> i work in a huge chroot
[21:31] <fta> crimsun, I can't finish a single level of openarena anymore :( sound is jerky, then o-a aborts because p-a is dead
[21:59] <fta> stevel, thanks for the songbird tag. i've built it locally, looks fine, pushing to my ppa right now (for hardy/intrepid/jaunty)
[22:00] <fta> stevel, i have a bunch of sqlite errors in the error console, probably the concert addon
[22:01] <fta> stevel, and i have a tab that opened with an error 500 on http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/173
[22:02] <stevel> fta: yeah, the sqlite errors are known - they'll be fixed soon, but they're innocuous
[22:02] <stevel> and the addons site issues are because we're getting swamped with traffic
[22:02] <stevel> new resources are being added to the site now to cope with the load
[22:03] <fta> ok, all fine then. now, the remaining issue is to enter the ubuntu repo officially
[22:05] <fta> a native systray, support for the multimedia keys, an unjailed main window and maybe a more native look and i'll drop rhythmbox for sure
[22:17] <stevel> woo! :)
[22:17] <stevel> will you be at fosscamp/uds next week?
[22:17] <fta> uds
[22:17] <stevel> hrm. are you going to the mozilla open house next wednesday evening?
[22:18] <fta> hm, not sure
[22:18] <fta> [reed], are we ? ^^
[22:18] <stevel> whoever is going - let me know your t-shirt sizes and i'll bring some songbird shirts down :)
[22:18] <fta> "S"
[22:18] <stevel> it's wednesday evening @ the mozilla office 6p-8p
[22:20] <fta> all builds just started: https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds
[22:21] <stevel> nice
[22:22] <fta> jcastro, https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds
[22:23] <jcastro> fta: stop hogging, I am trying to build stuff.
[22:23] <jcastro> just kidding
[22:23] <fta> i should wait the end of the builds before jumping everywhere
[22:23] <jcastro> hey you guys cool with a session with stevel during UDS wrt. songbird?
[22:24] <stevel> jcastro: i am! ;-)
[22:24] <fta> i am too
[22:24] <stevel> jcastro: i was just saying i'm going to be down there wednesday evening for the mozilla open house - we could meet up wednesday if you guys are free
[22:29] <jcastro> that sounds good
[22:29] <jcastro> there's a mozilla open house?
[22:30] <stevel> jcastro: yeah, in conjunction with add-on-con next thursday
[22:30] <stevel> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Add-on_con#Mozilla_Open_House
[22:30] <stevel> add-on-con page here: http://addoncon.com/
[22:35] <jcastro> oh man, I didn't know about that
[22:35] <jcastro> If it's open to other people then I will definately get the word out
[22:38] <stevel> it's an open house - so i'm pretty sure it's open to anyone :)
[22:38] <stevel> is UDS open to anyone?  or shall i come by at a specific time to meet you guys?
[22:39] <jcastro> it is open to anyone
[22:40] <jcastro> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-jaunty/
[22:40] <jcastro> there's the schedule
[22:40] <jcastro> I don't think it should be a formal one, we can just snag fta/asac and bust it out in the corner of a plenary room
[22:43] <stevel> 'k. i'll come down wednesday noon-ish and try to find you guys
[22:44] <fta> stevel, http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/134-UDS-Prague-MozillaTeam.html
[22:47] <stevel> ah-ha. nice. :)
[22:47] <stevel> <----- http://whacked.net/stevel.png
[22:48] <jcastro> speaking of, [reed]
[22:48] <jcastro> [reed]: you're supposed to have told us about this open house like, a long time ago
[22:49] <fta> i remember he announced addoncon here
[22:50] <fta> jcastro, btw, i was supposed to meet with at least one chromium guy on monday. but i thought we were in the googleplex
[22:51] <stevel> jcastro: do you know where in the GooglePlex UDS will be?
[22:51] <jcastro> stevel: yeah, 1400 or something like that
[22:51] <fta> stevel, songbird is quite a pig wrt cpu :(
[22:51] <jcastro> there's a map on the wikipage
[22:51] <stevel> jcastro: thanks
[22:51] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDSJaunty
[22:52] <stevel> fta: do you have mashTape loaded?
[22:52] <fta> stevel, yes, it poped up as recommended
[22:53] <stevel> fta: 'k, yeah - mashTape tends to consume CPU and memory (since it's loading in images & Flash)
[22:53] <stevel> it's recommend since we think it's a really cool add-on, but is not for people who are looking for a lean media player
[22:54] <fta> 30% on my dual core 2 is quite high
[22:54] <stevel> try unloading mashTape and see if it drops
[22:56] <fta> 12%
[22:56] <fta> still high
[22:56] <stevel> better. still seems a bit high though
[23:06] <shiv> when I type a URL in firefox its not taking me to the new URL but to the last visited page. Any clue why this new behavior?
[23:07] <asac> stevel: i want a shirt too ;)
[23:12] <asac> j.k.
[23:18] <stevel> asac: what size?
[23:20] <fta> stevel, it is possible to have stickers too?
[23:20] <stevel> fta: totally - i'll bring a bunch of stickers down
[23:20] <fta> great
[23:20] <asac> stevel: would be XL ... I guess ;)
[23:20] <fta> asac, XL US ??
[23:20] <asac> fta: dont confuse me
[23:21] <asac> fta: not sure. XL is at least not too small ;)
[23:21] <fta> did you put on weight since we last met?
[23:21] <asac> hehe
[23:21] <asac> well. i can hide my weight ;)
[23:21] <asac> but L is sometimes too small
[23:21] <stevel> looking at that photo fta posted, i can't see how fta can be S while asac is XL
[23:21] <stevel> asac: i'll bring a bunch of sizes since i'm going to bring some to the mozilla open house and the add-on-con too... so if it doesn't fit, we can switch to another
[23:21] <asac> stevel: i stopped my breath ;)
[23:21] <stevel> lol
[23:22] <fta> when i buy shirts in the US, it's usually XS or S, for jeans, it's 28
[23:22] <asac> stevel: also its a bit tricky. you dont see my full width ;) i am hidden partly :)
[23:22] <asac> http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/uploads/UDS-Prague-2008-MozillaTeam.png
[23:22] <fta> lol
[23:22] <asac> in the middle
[23:23] <asac> my guess would be that fta has M and I am L-XL
[23:23] <asac> S seems to be rather smallish ;)
[23:23] <stevel> S is pretty small, these tend to run on the slimmer side
[23:23] <fta> S in europe = XS in the US
[23:24] <fta> everything shifted
[23:24] <asac> hmm. i got XL from mozilla ... those were fine
[23:24] <fta> this summer, I saw 5XL in a shop!
[23:24] <asac> XXXXXL ?
[23:24] <asac> hehe
[23:25] <fta> that's 1 X more for us
[23:25] <asac> yeah. thats most likely what is left when you dont see claire opening the t-shirt box ;)
[23:26] <asac> stevel: when will you be there?
[23:28] <fta> stevel, if you think S is really too small, go for M
[23:28] <asac> its always possible to shrink shirts by doing hot laundry ;)
[23:30] <fta> strange, songbird is not done yet
[23:30] <fta> hmmm
[23:31] <fta> all stuck at the same place
[23:31] <fta> https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds/hassium
[23:32] <fta> cdbs bug?
[23:32] <asac> stcuk?
[23:32] <asac> does it deadlock bds?
[23:32] <fta> how could I know?
[23:33] <stevel> asac: i'll be at FOSSCamp friday and saturday, and coming down to UDS on Wednesday
[23:33] <[reed]> jcastro: I didn't know about the open house until like last week! :)
[23:33] <stevel> fta: i'm bringing both and will save one of each for you so you can see which one fits better
[23:33] <fta> cool
[23:33] <[reed]> jcastro: I'm also happy to take Ubuntu folks to Mozilla at other times
[23:33] <[reed]> I have my Mozilla badge, so I can get in 24/7
[23:35] <[reed]> jcastro: I'm also in the middle of semester exams, so I'm a tad busy lately ;)
[23:38] <[reed]> jcastro: and too bad we're not going to be at the Googleplex... it's always fun to go there ;)
[23:38] <jcastro> what do you mean?
[23:38] <jcastro> UDS is at the googleplex
[23:39] <[reed]> it's at the Crittenden Campus, according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDSJaunty
[23:39] <[reed]> that's not the "Googleplex"... about a mile from it
[23:40] <jcastro> oh, so not the old sgi buildings then?
[23:41] <[reed]> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=37.42152,-122.084112&daddr=1400+Crittenden+Lane+94043&hl=en&geocode=&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=0&sz=16&sll=37.424,-122.07665&sspn=0.012048,0.019312&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=16
[23:41] <[reed]> bad directions, but you can see the two places
[23:42] <[reed]> if you scroll left some
[23:42] <[reed]> you can see "Mozilla Foundation"
[23:42] <[reed]> our two buildings are in that complex
[23:42] <jcastro> oh damn, I thought we were in the googleplex
[23:42] <jcastro> I better tell someone lest we confuse people
[23:43] <fta> i so wanted to have a tour of the googleplex :((
[23:43] <[reed]> jcastro: any idea when the schedule will be available at http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-jaunty/?
[23:43] <jcastro> ? it's there
[23:43] <jcastro> are you signed in?
[23:44] <[reed]> yes
[23:44] <jcastro> click on the track or a day
[23:44] <[reed]> I can register for tracks I'm interested in
[23:44] <jcastro> should show you
[23:44] <[reed]> but there's no schedule
[23:45] <[reed]> fta: do you see anything?
[23:47] <[reed]> jcastro:
[23:47] <[reed]> http://i37.tinypic.com/2a6tvzr.png
[23:47] <[reed]> that's what I see
[23:47] <jcastro> !
[23:48] <jcastro> hmm, wth
[23:48] <jcastro> maybe it's not public yet?
[23:48] <jcastro> I'll find out
[23:50] <[reed]> and that shouldn't say "Googleplex" now :(
[23:50] <jcastro> yeah I am sending mails to the right guy
[23:51]  * [reed] heads to dinner
[23:52] <fta> [reed], i see the same thing