/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/12/02/#ubuntu-ops.txt

LjLjjjjjjjdawwwwg: as i said, please come back at a later time00:03
LjLi've already privately logged @marks for both him and mylogic00:06
TheMusoAnyone knwo why jjjjjjjdawwwwg was banned from #ubuntu?00:15
LjLTheMuso: yes, why?00:17
TheMusoHe has shown up in #ubuntu-installer wanting help. I am helping him as much as I can, but I first told him to go to #ubuntu for support, but he told me he was banned. I didn't know where else to send him, so I started helping.00:17
LjLTheMuso: he was banned first from #kubuntu for spamming it badly, then he was utterly silly in #ubuntu, then he started spammed again, so he was banned.00:18
TheMusoIts starting to turn into a hand holding kind of help.00:18
LjLhe just showed up here to appeal his ban00:18
LjLhe was told it won't be lifted just yet00:18
LjLTheMuso: yes, that is bound to be the case with him.00:19
TheMusoI am politely removing myself from helping him now, hopefully its the last I have to deal with him.00:20
LjLTheMuso: consider that he just stated, earlier on, that he had never used IRC before -- yet in #ubuntu he was asking how to install an IRC *server*.00:22
LjLto give you an idea of the individual.00:22
* TheMuso nods.00:22
TheMusoI know what you mean.00:22
TheMusoSounds like one who really would be better off sticking to windows. He wanted to install Ubuntu, totally replacing windows. I won't be surprised if he wipes his data out.00:23
LjLi'm not even entirely sure he isn't just trolling00:24
LjLand i wouldn't be surprised if he later came yelling at you because you had destroyed his Windows00:24
TheMusoI wouldn't be surprised either. I feel sorry I started helping him now.00:26
LjLhappens.00:27
TheMusoLjL: Thanks for your time.00:27
LjLyou're welcome00:27
=== Pici` is now known as Pici
mylogicis anyone here01:40
jussi01mylogic:  yes, how can we help you?01:44
mylogicwell my issue is rather long, I have already explained it above if you want to just read my post earlier in here?01:45
jussi01mylogic: ok, after a quick fligk through, seems you will have to take that up with LjL01:47
mylogicactually, I believe I need to talk to bazhang and Flannel01:48
mylogicoh well, I'll get ahold of them01:48
mylogicthanks though01:48
mneptokmylogic: i think LjL was pretty clear about idling here.02:12
mneptokgood moooooooooorning Connecticut!02:13
mrwesheh02:13
mrwesactually good evening02:14
* mneptok is a Simsbury native02:14
mrwesis in Middletown02:14
mneptoksprry to hear that. ;)02:14
mrwesblah...02:14
mneptokmrwes: how can we help?02:14
mrwesI'm on the Cromwell side02:14
mrwesheh02:14
mrweswelp....I was checking on my ban from #Ubuntu02:15
mrwes:)02:15
mrwesI failed to follow the CoC02:15
mneptok@btlogin02:15
mrwesafter being warned...02:15
mneptokgrrrr ....02:16
mrwesbut I have read the required documents and I'm certain I can behave and contribute to the Ubuntu communtity02:16
mrwes:)02:16
mrwesSimsbury? Isn't that in Mass?02:17
mrwesheh02:17
mrweswots da b0t say?02:17
ardchoilleI believe there is a bot in #ubuntu Windoze and it was brought in by, I think, bsusa. It seems to be saying "hello" randomly to nicks02:20
mrweslets nuke'em!02:20
mrwesmneptok, you still in CT?02:22
ardchoille[18:23] <ardchoille> hello02:23
ardchoille[18:23] <Windoze> Hello ardchoille.02:23
ardchoillelooks like a bot02:23
ardchoillebut it aint mine02:23
mrwesI just came back in 2005, I was in Chicago for 10 years before that02:23
mrwesyou sure?02:23
ardchoilletype "hello" in #ubuntu02:24
mrwesI'm currently unable to join that channel02:24
ardchoilleok, but if you were to type hellp, that guy's bot would respond02:24
ardchoille*hello02:24
ardchoilleJust wanted to let someone know02:26
mneptokmrwes: sorry, phone call02:26
mneptokbah02:26
vorianit's gone mneptok 02:28
mneptokaye02:28
naliothwhat are all these people doing here?02:33
naliothmylogic: can we help you?02:33
naliothUrsinha: can we help you?02:33
naliothseanw: can we help you?02:34
mneptoknalioth: Ursinha is a -br op and Canonical colleague who is here to watch for miscreant crossover between #u and -br02:34
naliothmmmmkay.02:34
mneptoknalioth: i suggested she /join here after a problem user took his schtick to -br02:35
naliothich verstehen02:35
mneptokausgezeichnet.02:36
mylogicnalioth: I'm waiting for either bazhang or Flannel to come around02:36
naliothbad timing on that response, eh?02:37
mneptoklol02:38
naliothfor the record, mylogic has already been apprised of our "no waiting" policy once.  this makes twice.02:39
* jussi01 giggles at nalioth - have a look at seanw's cloak... 02:41
mneptoknalioth: are you counting LjL's as one?02:42
mneptok(warning to mylogic)02:42
naliothjussi01: i know what his cloak says02:47
naliothmneptok: i believe we both have spoken with mylogic twice, mneptok 02:47
jussi01nalioth: so why are you asking if we can help him? 02:47
* jussi01 is confused02:47
genii@whoami03:16
ubottugenii03:16
genii@login03:17
ubottuThe operation succeeded.03:17
* jussio1 lols at genii03:19
jussio1damn stupid thing always comes back as jussio1... hrm03:19
=== jussio1 is now known as jussi01
geniijussi01: Volatile always betwen those two03:22
jussi01yeah03:22
stdinthey both have a short fuse03:23
jussi01I gave h3 a quick pm, just saying be careful03:23
geniiYup03:23
geniijussi01: Heh, the cat thing won't die03:30
jussi01FYI, just had a PM from minataku:03:34
jussi01[05:29:21] <Minataku> I'd like more info on how you are handling this disgusting antagonism03:34
jussi01[05:31:43] <jussi01> as you know there are several stages of dispute resolution. we are moving through them but havent yet reached the banning stage. other than that I cant go into specifics, as thats between us and him. but please know we are attending to it.03:34
jussi01[05:32:13] <jussi01> Just remember to do your part and dont feed the troll/respond to him antagonising you.03:34
genii#u04:00
ubottustdin called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic ()04:00
geniiSomeone boot sailormoon in -offtopic please04:01
Madpilotgon04:01
Madpilotgone, even04:01
jussi01stdin: ping05:12
stdinjussi01: pong05:12
* genii watches the table tennis game05:14
bazhangmylogic was here I see05:14
bazhanghe will be disappointed to find neither flannel nor I have privileges to rescind his ban in -ot05:15
mylogicbazhang or Flannel around?05:38
bazhangmylogic, hi05:38
mylogichey there05:39
mylogicso is there anyway this issue can come to some sort of resolve05:39
mylogicI understand that I should be more attentive to the guidance in which the channel op is lending, and I see where my actions were at fault05:40
bazhangmylogic, I see you had a talk with LjL 05:41
mylogicI attempted to05:41
bazhangmylogic, not sure what you mean by 'attempted to'05:42
mylogicIt wasn't going in any sort of a positive direction05:42
mylogicand if anything was back pedalling from the point in which you, myself, and Flannel arrived at yesterday evening05:43
bazhangmylogic, there needs to be a bit of clarification05:43
bazhangmylogic,  you mention something about 'power trip'05:43
mylogicI retract that comment05:44
mylogicI was speaking out of frustration05:44
mylogicI understand how I was in the wrong05:44
bazhangmylogic, reading that comment seems to indicate you think that you were okay with the way things were going until I interceded05:45
bazhangmylogic, even though several individuals asked you repeatedly to stop.05:46
mylogicyes, something uncharacteristic of me, though I guess yesterday was just one of those days05:48
bazhangmylogic, any hurry to get back into #ubuntu-offtopic ?05:49
mylogicthough I still feel as though nothing I was speaking of in the first place was inappropriate, I understand that when an op asked me to stop, I need to do so05:49
bazhangmylogic, that is where we differ.05:49
mylogicsomewhat, it's a channel in which I enjoy passing the time and have made several good acquaintances05:50
bazhangmylogic, if the direction is objected to by anyone, channel operator or no, should be a time to respect their wishes and bring it to a complete stop.05:50
mylogicthe direction in which was inappropriate was approached by the other guy, or so I understood it to be05:51
bazhangit is the offtopic channel yes05:51
bazhangbut there are certain subjects that are offtopic for offtopic , ie o4o05:51
mylogicthen I was frustrated because I didn't feel like I was the one responsible for taking it in that direction, and from that point on I was taking a childish way of making a point by not dropping the subject05:51
mylogicI understand that was the wrong way to go about it05:52
bazhangmylogic, I feel you are missing a crucial point here.05:52
mylogicI understand05:58
bazhangmylogic, please clarify.05:58
mylogicI understand that their are topics that can easily sit on a fine line between being appropriate and inappropriate, and as soon as someone, op or not, deems it as being inappropriate05:59
mylogicthen I need to respect that05:59
bazhangmylogic, not really.06:00
mylogic?06:00
bazhangmylogic, there was no fine line involved.06:00
mylogicI'm confused then06:00
mylogicso speaking of relationships in general is inappropriate all together?06:01
bazhangdenigration/misogyny has no fine line.06:01
bazhangits wrong, plain and simple.06:01
mylogicI completely agree, and wasn't involved in that, the other guy, wolf or something was the one involved in that area of chat06:02
mylogicI was speaking with snux AND __mike about their problem in approaching a member of the opposite sex about their feelings for them06:02
bazhangits not about the other guy.06:03
bazhanghe was banned, and admits he was wrong.06:03
bazhangyou think that you were banned as some sort of innocent bystander06:03
mylogicwell I wasn't saying anything disrespectful that would offend anyone, I did have a typo in defense of a comment the other guy made that could definitely be taken as offensive, but I think it was very clear that it was a typo06:04
mylogicin DEFENSE of a comment he made of a picture of two of my good friends06:05
bazhang__mikem admits he was in the wrong as well.06:05
bazhangall three of you were asked to stop.06:05
mylogicright06:05
mylogicI got that06:06
bazhangrepeatedly asked to stop.06:06
bazhangand not only did not stop, but mocked and continued.06:06
mylogicok, I suppose it makes sense now of why initially the conversation swayed in one that would not be appropriate for the channel06:06
bazhangthe other two parties involved have admitted they were in the wrong.06:06
mylogicand the mocking was just a result of my lack of understanding of the rules06:07
mylogicand was disrespectful to those who did give warning before taking action06:07
bazhangthe trigger !stop is quite explicit. lets not split hairs here.06:08
mylogicI understood what the !stop was saying, but at THAT time, I didn't understand how the conversation even pertained to why I was getting this !stop warning, which is what triggered my mocking afterwards06:09
mylogicnot trying to make any justification of that though, it still was wrong06:09
bazhangthe discussion was completely wrong and inappropriate. nothing unclear about that.06:09
mylogiccan you quote me on what exactly it was that I said that was inappropriate06:09
mylogicother than the single statement that was a typo06:10
mylogic?06:10
bazhangthis is not a debate.06:10
mylogicI just don't understand what you keep making reference to06:10
bazhangthen you are not ready to have your ban lifted.06:10
mylogicI'm not debating, but rather asking what exactly it was so I never repeat it or go in that direction06:10
bazhangthere are certain things that are not laid out, point by point, in the guidelines.06:11
mylogicI just can't quite pinpoint any one statement that seems inappropriate06:11
mylogicwell what general concept was I breaking?06:11
bazhangbecause they do not need to be.06:11
bazhangmisogyny is a big one.06:12
mylogiclike which collective lines did I say that created a thought of offense?06:12
mylogicone second, let me look up misogyny on dictionary.com real quick06:12
mylogicYeah about that... I don't quite see anything I said that portrayed a hatred of women, nor expressed an aggravated form of male sexism, or any sort of prejudice06:14
mylogicSo please do help me see where it was that I flaunted this 'misogyny' ideal06:17
bazhangmylogic, the fact that others did see it and asked for it to cease forthwith should have been an indicator.06:19
mylogicyou have logs of these channels, so please help me here06:20
bazhangmylogic, no need.06:20
bazhangthis seems to be about parsing of statements in a discussion that was clearly out of line.06:20
mylogicparsing? no need to parse!06:21
mylogicyou can show me in full things I was saying that were inappropriate06:21
bazhangyou were told by others present that they were not appropriate.06:22
mylogicYou seem like a pretty reasonable person. I have tried to go through the right process to appeal something I felt was wrongly done. I would greatly appreciate it if someone could swallow their pride and unban me.06:22
mylogicI was told my one single operator06:23
mylogicby*06:23
mylogicand the fact was, nothing I said was ACTUALLY offensive or anything06:23
bazhangmylogic, this seems to be going nowhere.06:24
mylogicso would this give me the right to just go in the channel and tell anyone in there that what they are talking about makes me feel uncomfortable06:24
mylogicwould that grant you jurisdiction to ban them if I complained?06:24
mylogicI don't think so, that's not how systems SHOULD work.06:24
bazhangmylogic, your ban remains in place.06:26
mylogicThe only thing you have done is told me that when someone feels something is offensive and expresses it, that it is proclaimed as so. So suddenly opinions grant authority over others. Sweet legal system.06:26
bazhangremaining here and continuing to argue about it will not expedite its lifting06:27
mylogicif you could only show me something I said that was offensive, I would gladly bow out and accept the ban, but you can't even do that. I hope that your job doesn't require you to show proof behind your reasoning on decision making, otherwise you may be in trouble.06:27
mylogicat this point I honestly don't care about expediting, I just think it's sad. I have colo'd servers at four different datacenters around the world. I'll be fine with just logging onto the channel with a different alias. Thanks for not using any reasoning what-so-ever in this appeal process. The network would be proud.06:29
bazhangmylogic, ban evasion?06:30
mylogicyeah06:30
mylogicI'll tell you right now06:30
mylogicI am about to log into #ubuntu-offtopic shortly06:30
bazhangso the other two incidents were an accident or no06:30
mylogicand there is not a single thing you can do about it06:31
mylogicgood day.06:31
bazhangthat took an unexpected turn.06:31
* genii hands out more coffee and aspirins06:33
geniiGoing /away now. Laters06:57
bazhang:)06:57
jussi01interesting...07:13
elkbuntu!staff ^^07:21
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about staff ^^07:21
elkbuntubah07:21
elkbuntubazhang, has he popped up yet?07:21
ikoniaI can't see him, I'm the only one with a "matt" ident07:21
* jussi01 waves to ikonia07:22
ikoniahowdy07:22
ikonianot enabled your proxy yet, stayed in London last night, on my way ino the office now07:22
jussi01ahhh07:22
ikoniadidn't actually make it home due to a late night07:23
jussi01that sucks07:23
elkbuntuikonia, i doubt he'll be in under matt, find the mylogic.[net|com|org] ban and see if it's different07:23
ikonia@btlogin07:23
elkbuntu.net it is07:24
ikoniawhoaa, he's had a few bans07:24
elkbuntuyeah, he's not innocent at all07:25
bazhangelkbuntu, yes he showed up07:25
elkbuntubazhang, who? zeroconn?07:25
ikonia n=matt@74-37-30-58.dsl1.tbr.ga.frontiernet.net07:25
bazhangelkbuntu, zeroconn is mylogic/matt?07:25
ikoniathats him too07:25
bazhangso his threat of ban evasion was all too real07:26
elkbuntubazhang, trying to guess07:26
elkbuntu@btlogin07:26
bazhangzeroconn (n=gx009@99.16.251.11) has joined #ubuntu-offtopic07:27
elkbuntuleft shortly later07:27
bazhanga few minutes after mylogic/matt made those threats; was on for about 9 mins07:27
elkbuntu*!*@12.173.146.160 is another him we need to watch for07:29
bazhangjust curious; mylogic is still in #ubuntu, would the above threats have any bearing on that?07:49
elkbuntuonly ever exploited there07:50
ikoniaactually - I think it does07:51
ikoniasomeone comes in here making threats, I do'nt see a reason for them to be allowed access to #ubuntu while threatening "ubuntu"07:52
ikoniain my opnion07:52
elkbuntuwe've always had an unwritten rule that except for extreme situations, each channel is managed seperately07:52
bazhangargh breezy07:53
ikoniaI understand that rule07:53
ikoniabut sticking two fingers up at the operators trying to enforce those rules ?07:53
ikoniaI'm not saying act, I'm giving my opinion07:54
elkbuntudepends if you think his childishness is worth putting up with the 'ops abuse' 'making it personal' accusations that we'd get unfairly assaulted with07:54
ikoniaI don't see how thats unfair07:55
bazhangright07:55
bazhangbut the perception would be there07:55
ikoniasaid he would dodge the ban07:55
elkbuntuthe accusations would be unfair07:55
ikoniaI do'nt really care what his perception is in that stance07:55
bazhanghes not banned in ubuntu07:55
ikoniathe facts remain07:55
bazhangyet..07:55
elkbuntuikonia, and we need cold hard proof before we can act like he has07:55
ikoniaelkbuntu: I'm sure07:55
ikoniaas I said, I'm not saying act07:56
bazhanghe ban evaded in -ot only07:56
bazhangunless freenode wants to step in that is07:56
ikoniabut if someone is banned and acivly says "I'll ban evade" - if they do or not is irrelevant, they are putting 2 fingers up at ubuntu's methods of running the channel07:56
elkbuntubazhang, we're assuming that was him.07:56
bazhangelkbuntu, he admitted it.07:56
ikoniait's blantantly against the COC - if the evade or not, the intent is there, or the threat07:56
bazhangelkbuntu, ban evasions on two occasions then just a little while ago openly saying he would do it again07:57
elkbuntubazhang, he admitted that it was him? or he admitted that he was goign to try and it maybe possibly was him?07:57
bazhangelkbuntu, he admitted he had done it twice, but that it was only accidental07:57
ikoniahe's reading this channel07:57
ikoniahe's just quit as we spoke abou tit07:58
bazhangthen with the last threat of openly ban evading he gave lie to the accidental part07:58
elkbuntuit was not accidental. you dont log into your server and use your rdns 'accidentally'07:58
bazhangclearly not. but that was his story at the time.07:59
bazhangtwice.07:59
bazhangarun_ is trying to install java on breezy?08:00
ikoniaalmost time for the tube, can someone watch bdelin88 he's got all the signs of storming out and making a fuss08:12
elkbuntuugh, i thought we had a changelog factoid08:16
jussi01!changelogs | elkbuntu08:24
ubottuelkbuntu: changelogs for Ubuntu packages can be found on http://changelogs.ubuntu.com08:24
jussi01we do :)08:24
elkbuntuah, i missed the s.08:32
elkbuntualias tiem08:32
elkbuntusomeone else wanna do it? i always mess up08:33
jussi01!changelog is <alias>changelogs08:33
ubottuI'll remember that, jussi0108:33
jussi01!changelog | elkbuntu08:33
ubottuelkbuntu: changelogs for Ubuntu packages can be found on http://changelogs.ubuntu.com08:33
elkbuntuta08:35
jussi01:)08:35
elkbuntuhow's the leg?08:35
jussi01still reallyouchies..08:40
jussi01morphine is making me high/sleepy08:41
elkbuntuhehe08:42
elkbuntuYOW... i didnt realise i had a split lip until right now....08:42
elkbuntuwhen i took a nice big mouthful of vodka and OJ.08:43
elkbuntuthe OJ on it's own is bad enough...08:43
jussi01heheh08:43
MyrttiiPhone: DIIIEEEEE!!!!08:44
jussi01why?08:45
MyrttiN97 ♥ 08:46
Myrttijussi01: see -ot08:46
jussi01seen08:47
jussi01ok, I will give my official opinion, I hate phones with only a touchscreen.08:48
jussi01so all of them can go die...08:48
Myrttijussi01: that one has a keyboard08:49
Myrttifeel free to grunt08:49
jussi01Myrtti: it does?08:49
Myrttihttp://www.symbian-guru.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/nokias_big_announcement_2.jpg08:49
jussi01that poor site is getting hammered08:50
Myrttiwell events.nokia.com is already whacked08:50
Myrttiit's running IIS according to the error messages08:50
jussi01lol08:51
Myrttihttp://events.nokia.com/08:51
Myrttisee08:51
jussi01interesting... I now have a new phone that I want...08:51
Myrttiyeah...08:51
jussi01Has anyone seen seveas recently?09:01
ikoniawhat's teh big news09:24
ikoniaI saw seveas about 2 days ago09:24
ikoniawhat the devil is that digusting nokia09:24
* Myrtti larts ikonia 09:25
Myrttiit's SWEEET09:25
Myrttishutup.09:25
ikoniano09:25
ikoniait's rubbish09:25
Myrttiit's not!09:25
Myrttiikonia: why is it rubbish to your opinion?09:25
ikoniaI hate slidy phones09:25
jussi01Myrtti: dont mind him, he just got an e71 and is now jealous :P09:25
ikoniaand those ones with the keyboard that pulls out making it a brick09:25
* jussi01 huggles ikonia09:26
ikoniaI'm quite happy with my E71 thanks09:26
jussi01I know... just like to tease :D09:26
Myrttihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O2Li74EYew OH DEAR SWEET GOD09:26
ikoniayou have your touch screen slide out cookie making N phone09:27
ikoniaeach to their own09:27
Nafallowell, if they could release a black version... :-P09:31
ikoniaawesome eventually got them to approve nokia PC suite on my works desktop09:32
ikoniablack is better09:32
ikonia[/quote]09:32
jussi01red is faster...09:36
ikoniayes, I've heard that rumour too09:36
ikoniaand I've got a bug in lifematta09:36
ikonia:(09:36
MyrttiI've stopped running all extra apps apart from Flipsilent :-(09:38
MyrttiI'm not running the jaiku client either09:38
jussi01ikonia: pm09:39
* elkbuntu and ikonia form the "We're fine with our fake crackberry phones kthxbai" club.10:07
elkbuntufar out. youtube currently crashes my firefox10:08
MyrttiE71 is schweet...10:08
Myrttiit's better than mine in many ways10:08
elkbuntuthe battery lasts more than a day, for one.10:09
ikoniamy battery lasts about 3 - 4 days of normal use10:10
* Nafallo have his N95 8GB plugged to power most of the time10:10
ikonia5 - 6 with thigns turned off10:10
Nafalloconstant bluetooth music playing drains batteries FAST :-P10:10
elkbuntuikonia, hey hold on... their phones make cookies?!10:11
* elkbuntu steals Myrtti's phone and makes cookies.10:11
ikoniadoesn't yorus ?10:11
elkbuntuno :(10:11
ikoniayou have the early version then10:11
elkbuntuhehe, i have an e71 like yours... not n-series10:12
ikoniathe &1 release two makes cookies10:12
ikoniaE7110:12
elkbuntuooh10:12
* elkbuntu starts licking her phone10:12
jussi01well thats nothing! mine EATS cookies :D10:14
jussi01:P10:14
ikoniajussi01 thats a defect10:14
jussi01lol10:15
elkbuntuback when i was a kid, we were lucky if our mobiles could make phonecalls.10:16
Myrttiback when I was a kid, we were lucky if our phones had buttons.10:16
ikoniaI had a cup and some string10:17
elkbuntuthat's nothing. i only had the string, i had to whittle the cups out of GRANITE10:17
jussi01hahahah10:17
elkbuntuthankyou thankyou, i'll be here all week.10:19
MyrttiTRY THE FISH!10:20
elkbuntuhehe10:24
elkbuntui always forget to pimp the chef.10:24
Myrttiergh10:34
MyrttiMartiini is favouriting my flickr pictures.10:34
Myrttihttp://flickr.com/photos/29976761@N04/10:34
MyrttiI'm scared.10:35
elkbuntuwho is martiini?10:36
Myrttisome estonian fellow who has been banned.10:36
Myrtti@bansearch martiini10:37
ubottuNo matches found for martiini!n=chatzill@80.235.35.235 in any channel10:37
elkbuntuah. stalker?10:37
Myrttiyeah10:37
elkbuntueep10:37
* elkbuntu huggles Myrtti tight10:37
Myrttiis actually still banned in ot10:37
Myrttiif I see the bantracker correctly10:37
Flannele-stalker, not just the regular kind10:38
Flannelor, maybe the buzzword compliant way would be: Stalker 2.010:38
Myrtti2008-09-12T09:11:28 <Martiini> where is myrtti .. I wanna ask myrtti if she would have cybersex with me10:38
ikoniawhat is going on with people today10:38
ikoniaregular guys are just talking nonsense10:39
Myrttifeel free to look for more in bantracker.10:39
Flannelikonia: Its a day whose name ends in 'y'10:39
MyrttiI feel disgusted and scared10:39
ikoniaFlannel: it's just crazy commetns today10:39
FlannelYou know, we should push freenode to support RFC351410:40
ikoniaI'm making RFC1234 - don't talk nosense in a support channel10:41
* Flannel tries to imagine nonsense being IPX and support channels being IP.10:42
* Myrtti yawns and looks at the clock.10:44
MyrttiI guess I should try to wake up10:45
FlannelMyrtti: Go eat gingerbread!10:45
Flannelbreakfast of champions right there!10:45
Myrttiomnomnom10:45
* Gary shivvers10:51
Myrttiomg, hungry!10:54
jussi01anyone got promocodes for godaddy?11:13
jussi01nvm, googled and found a good one :D11:22
jussi01I just bought ubottu.com for use with all the ubottu stuff :D  :D 12:00
elkbuntuhehe12:02
FlannelActionParsnip in #u seems to enjoy responding to every question, even if he's not exactly familiar with what is being asked.12:03
FlannelI mentioned it to him in a query, he says he knows.  But just keep an eye out if it starts getting silly.12:04
jussi01Flannel: actionparsnip has a good heart ;)12:04
jussi01Flannel: he is one of our egs in #k12:04
jussi01regs*12:04
FlannelI never said otherwise, I'm familiar with him.  But, the blind leading the blind isn't a good dea12:05
FlannelI've never seen him like this before. Of course, that may just be a timezone thing.  As... it is 4am here, and I ought to be in bed.12:06
jussi01ikonia: you have pm if you didnt notice...12:06
* jussi01 hugs Flannel,gives him a warm milk with honey, and sends him off to bed12:07
Flanneljussi01: I got home about an hour ago, just got done with a snack, and yeah, I'm definately on my way out.  Up in five hours and such ;)12:07
jussi01Flannel: so what are you doing on IRC? GO!12:08
jussi01:P12:08
jussi01ok, im off to bed... nini12:10
ikoniaI didn't12:12
ikoniaI don't know why your highlight doesn't pick up12:12
ikoniareading12:12
jjjjjjjdawwwwgHi12:37
Tm_Twell, hi, how can we help you today, jjjjjjjdawwwwg ?12:37
jjjjjjjdawwwwgWell I was banned yesterday for spamming a bit in a channel, and I was told to thoroughly read the rules and come back later when I was ready to use some common sense12:38
Tm_Thmmm, who was it?12:38
jjjjjjjdawwwwgLjL banned me12:39
Myrttijeremyoiher if I guess right12:43
jjjjjjjdawwwwgYes, you have guessed correctly12:44
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=== ForrestBoxO is now known as forestboxochocol
=== forestboxochocol is now known as JeremyE
ikoniawhat is with all the nick name changes?12:58
MyrttiI don't want to know. I might be disappointed12:58
ikoniaJeremyE what is the thinking behind all the nickname changes ?13:07
JeremyEwell13:08
JeremyEI was told to hcnage my nick13:08
JeremyEand forest gump is awesome13:08
ikoniaso why change it 4 times ?13:08
* Myrtti loves her hostname13:56
Tm_TI do too13:57
Myrttidid I join before or after identifying?13:57
Tm_Tbefore13:58
Myrtti13:58
Myrttihelplolcute! http://api.ning.com/files/r5MC42QuOG0BBEUdfI2I7ICc3VBzL8UWN0xrtZWtj6g_/apua.jpg14:01
Myrtti*sigh*15:04
Tm_Tyes, dear?15:05
Myrttinothing15:06
* genii sips15:14
bazhangouch15:21
* bazhang reminds himself never to use ultimate15:21
ikoniathis would be the 3rd time he's lied about this and had it explictly explained to him to stop using #ubuntu as a support resource for ultimate edition15:22
ikoniaincluding a 30 minute chat in here15:22
bazhang!ultimate15:22
ubottuThe following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes; please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mintsupport), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ultimate Edition15:22
bazhangCrusher, ^^15:22
ikoniaCrusher: Hi15:22
Crusherikonia: yes sir15:23
ikoniaCrusher: during our last conversation did we not make it clear that ultimate edition was not supported in #ubuntu15:23
Crusherikonia: i m really sorry for that 15:23
ikoniayour not15:23
ikoniaotherwise you wouldn't have done it15:23
Crusherikonia: i swear i won't repeat the same mistake again sire15:23
ikoniawe spent 30 minutes with you last time expalining why it wasn't supported, helping you find the correct resources, and look at your problems, and answering your questions15:23
ikoniaCrusher: you won't make the same mistake because your banned from #ubuntu15:24
ikoniaI don't need you to swear15:24
Crusherikonia: well i beg your mercy 15:24
ikonianope, as not only did you do what we asked yo unot to, you lied about it15:24
ikonianope, as not only did you do what we asked you not to, you lied about it15:24
Crusherikonia: still i said the truth before it was too late 15:25
ikoniayou should have said the truth from teh start15:25
ikoniaanyway, I don't see a point in discussing this futher, you've proved you don't listen to what is being told to you, and you lie to get what you want, so I won't be progressing this any futher at this time15:25
Crusherok sir15:26
ikoniaI would be less harsh had this not been the 3rd occasion and the fact that we took 30 minutes explaining all this with you less than a week ago15:26
Crusherprobably i won't get help from u right now because of my mistakes......15:27
ikoniayou won't15:27
ikoniaso unless one of the other ops wants to take this forward with you, I see no point in discussing it futehr and request you leave the channel15:27
ikoniaI don't want to drag this out15:27
Crusherthank u anyway...i've not expected this from u .......besides i m willing to learn things15:28
ikoniaif any of you want to take that forward with him at a later date, please do so, but I won't be removing that ban in a hurry due to the time wasting and lies15:29
ikoniainteresting a /who on crushers IP doesn't return anything yet he's online15:31
jrib!my is bantuan bahasa melayu? sila join #ubuntu-my15:34
ubottuI'll remember that, jrib15:34
jrib!my15:35
ubottumy is bantuan bahasa melayu? sila join #ubuntu-my15:35
jribbah15:35
jrib!no, my is <reply> bantuan bahasa melayu? sila join #ubuntu-my15:35
ubottuI'll remember that jrib15:35
jrib!my15:35
naliothikonia: +i is the answer15:43
ikoniaHmm so he's "new" yet knows how to +i15:44
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naliothikonia: 'new' != illiterate15:45
ikoniain an early conversation he claimed he was new to irc15:46
ikoniadoesn't really matter, more just crurious on my own part15:46
naliothhttp://freenode.net isn't irc15:46
ikoniaof course not15:46
ikoniabut if he can do that, then he could of read the ultimate edition website after we went rhoguh it with him last time15:46
MyrttiAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh16:32
Myrttithank you.16:33
ikonia?16:35
* Myrtti prods Nafallo with https://translations.launchpad.net/terminator17:09
NafalloMyrtti: remind me tomorrow evening please? :-)17:10
Tm_TNafallo: no, now!17:11
* Tm_T hides17:11
NafalloTm_T: at work17:11
Tm_Tbah, excuses17:11
MyrttiNafallo: sure17:12
Myrttihello manish17:12
Myrttistill trying to get to #ubuntu? sorry.17:13
manishis there any option to install packages in the other partition than the /17:16
manish??17:16
Tm_Tmanish: see topic17:16
manishTm_T: fine17:18
Myrttihttp://pallo.dyndns.org/tmp/facebook.txt http://pallo.dyndns.org/tmp/facebook.py17:32
Tm_TMyrtti: what does it do, really?17:34
Tm_Tget peoples shouts from facebook?17:34
Myrttinow that I've got a dish full of vanilla ice cream and gingerbread cookie crumbs in front of me17:38
MyrttiI'd like to tell you17:38
Myrttithat if I die tomorrow, it's because I ate cheap vanilla ice cream made in Lithuania.17:39
Tm_TMyrtti: can I get your hardware then?17:39
Tm_TI mean, noo don't die now!17:39
Myrttiyou can have my laptop and home server17:39
MyrttiNomovok will claim my desktop computer17:40
Myrttioh, and you can have my mfp as well.17:40
Myrttimy sister will have my phone.17:40
Tm_T<317:40
Tm_Twe have a sister? :O17:40
Tm_T(yeah yeah, I know)17:40
MyrttiTm_T: to answer your question17:43
MyrttiI have no idea whatsoever17:43
Myrttiyou're the python guru ;-)17:43
* genii suspects the gingerbread cookie crumbs might be more lethal than the ice cream17:43
Tm_TMyrtti: indeed (:)17:43
bazhang<sporty> "Win the flag, cheese ain't christ" - the spirit of Niccanopulus++17:45
Myrttiwhere's that?17:45
Myrttiaha17:45
Myrttiic17:45
bazhanghe quit already17:45
bazhang#ubuntu17:45
bazhangshould have seen that coming.17:46
Myrttiwell I kickbanned him from ot17:48
Tm_Twhy?17:48
bazhanghe was stalking17:48
bazhangagain...17:48
Myrttibanevasion17:48
Tm_Tah17:48
MyrttiAGAIN17:49
Myrttibrain freeze17:52
=== Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-lunch
bazhangpluma in -ot18:22
bazhang<pluma> Any biblethumpers around?18:23
bazhangand worse18:23
Myrttilooking18:23
Myrttithanks for heads up18:23
ikonia @mark manish is another nick for the user crusher who is trying to ban dodge in #ubuntu18:25
geniiThe writing style of pluma is reminiscent of our pal mylogic18:25
bazhangyep18:26
Myrttiwas he from germany?18:26
geniiNo, his hostmask shows georgia (USA)18:26
bazhang [pluma] (n=pluma@ip-88-153-24-75.unitymediagroup.de): Alan Plum18:26
Myrttiwell then18:27
ikoniashould ubottu be in #ubuntu-np ?18:27
bazhangbut he has 4 datacenters (or so he claimed)18:27
MyrttiMez: btw, someone should seriously have a look at cairo-dock18:28
Myrttithe english in this one makes my head cave in18:28
MezMyrtti: the english? or the ACTUAL english18:30
Myrttiwhat's the difference between them XD18:30
geniibazhang: If they would be on different continents I'd be at least mildly surprised... Although more and more now the writing style is looking the same to me.18:30
geniiAlso the attitude :)18:31
bazhanggenii, agreed18:31
MyrttiMez: well it's clearly NOT written by native speaker.18:33
MyrttiMez: even I could fix the most obvious errors.18:33
Myrttiomglol I can't even locate the homepage of the project18:34
Myrttioh, found it18:34
Myrttiew.18:35
Jack_Sparrow:)18:35
Myrttiwhere's the ENGLISH?18:35
jpdsHmm?18:49
MezMyrtti: feel free to join the team and correct the erros then ;)18:51
MyrttiMez: I'll do that right after I'm past learning "hello world" in python18:51
MezMyrtti: print "Hello World"18:52
MyrttiMez: I know, isn't it pathetic18:52
MezMyrtti: takes me back to the days of basic18:53
MezMyrtti: my python is coming along nicely ;)18:54
Myrttishutup18:54
Myrtti:<18:54
MezMyrtti: Well, to be fair - I just dived in. Started writing a site in python + django... If you know other languages - it's not that hard to do18:54
Tm_TMez: indeed, if you can start from scratch18:55
Jack_SparrowLDA $#41  JSR $FFD2              gotta love assy 18:55
Tm_TJack_Sparrow: assembly for ...18:55
Jack_Sparrow650218:55
Jack_SparrowMy first programming job.. for Commodore18:55
Tm_Theh18:55
Jack_Sparrowin '7918:56
geniiJack_Sparrow: Heh, you and Butterfield18:56
Jack_Sparrow:)18:56
Tm_TI have only done for 808818:56
MezTm_T: start from scratch ?18:56
Tm_Tsimple math and stuff only18:56
Jack_Sparrowgenii I haven't even heard the name  butterielf in ages.. thanks18:56
Tm_TMez: I mean, if someone does spaghetti with django...18:56
Tm_TMez: or any language, actually18:57
Jack_Sparrowgenii Thomas right?18:57
Mezspaghetti? hmm... not really... I'm having fun with it. (p.u.c for my latest fun with django)18:57
geniiJack_Sparrow: He is passed away now, unfortunately. But he inspired me much in the 70s and 80s18:57
geniiJack_Sparrow: Jim Butterfield18:57
Jack_Sparrowgenii cool.  my uncle wrote usd pascal.. which is where I got started, cards and all18:57
Jack_SparrowJim.. thats it18:57
Jack_SparrowThat brings back memories18:58
geniiJack_Sparrow: Remember typing out hundreds of lines of code from magazines? ;)18:59
geniiThousands of lines sometimes18:59
Jack_SparrowOh, god, yes, all right so I could be the first to have it at the meetings19:00
* genii sips his coffee and reminisces about 6502 and 651019:00
Jack_Sparrowgenii meeting in back rooms of anyones office that could get us access at nights..19:00
Jack_SparrowCords and power strips everywhere..19:01
Jack_Sparrowcarrying in all our stuff in cardboard boxes19:01
Jack_SparrowNOw I feel really old19:01
genii110 baud modems19:01
Jack_Sparrowall night downloads to tape19:02
Jack_SparrowSorry for boring everyone out of there minds19:02
* Myrtti feels young and huggles Jack_Sparrow 19:03
Tm_Tkids...19:03
Jack_SparrowI wrote a bad check tracking program for K-mart in exchange for a 300 baud modem19:03
Tm_TJack_Sparrow: and they still use it19:03
Jack_SparrowProbably19:03
Tm_TJack_Sparrow: but you don't, the modem that is19:03
Tm_T(;)19:04
Jack_SparrowI should have bronzed my old hardware..  hand made circuit boards with wire wrap pins 19:04
Jack_Sparrowbank switching in different kernels19:05
Jack_Sparrowgenii thanks, you made my day..19:05
geniiJack_Sparrow: Heh, anytime. But now I'm starting to feel ancient also ... ;)19:10
Myrttilol19:22
Tm_Tkids, just wait to have my age...19:22
Myrtti@evan just favourited my dent :-D19:22
Tm_Tdent?19:24
MyrttiTwitter entries are tweets, Jaiku entries are jaikus, identi.ca entries are dents19:24
Tm_Tah19:24
Tm_Tfor me they all are posts19:25
Tm_Tbah, why KDE people doesn't use identi.ca, I don't get it19:25
MyrttiWHOA19:43
Myrttifirst time ever!19:43
Myrtti"413 Request Entity Too Large"19:43
MyrttiLOL19:43
MyrttiX-D19:43
Tm_Taww19:44
Myrtti*yawn*20:01
MyrttiI'm seriously starting to think that -offtopic has started to fill up with idiots lately20:27
PriceChildMyrtti: ompaul isn't that ba20:27
PriceChildd20:27
Tm_Tsure?20:28
MyrttiI know it's wrong and not nice to refer to people as idiots20:29
Myrttibut seriously20:29
Myrtti[22:17] < pluma> So I raped a feminist wetback Jew the other day while smoking a joint  and pirating some films...20:29
Myrttiwoops20:30
Myrttisorry bout that20:30
elkbuntuoh how i wish the trolls would be a little.... artistic20:32
elkbuntuthey could at least amuse me for a few minutes before they get the banhammer.20:33
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=== heHATEme is now known as vorian
genii/back21:30
* genii puts on a stronger batch of coffee21:31
* Mez uploads a test ec2 image23:47
* Myrtti uploads a screenshot23:51

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