[01:50] <thefiestysoldier> Can anyone tell me a command to open the file manager??
[01:51] <thefiestysoldier> any1 at all?
[01:52] <Arsdoff> I screwed up the screen and need to set it to default settings.  Can this be done on a scrambled screen?
[01:58] <Arsdoff> I have control of terminal, and only terminal.  I need to reset the screen settings  to default.  How can I do this?
[02:05] <Arsdoff> Please?
[02:16] <sinbox> Arsdoff, I think you need to edit >>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf   you wanna be very careful though
[02:22] <Arsdoff> I typed in "edit>> /etc/X11/xorg.conf", and nothing discernible happered.. is that a good thing? no error message?
[02:22] <Arsdoff> Am I supposed to type more commands?
[02:22] <Arsdoff> Or just reset?
[02:23] <sinbox> sudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  << this is the command to dit the file you wanna be very careful though
[02:24] <Arsdoff> I am very new to linux, btw
[02:24] <sinbox> erm
[02:24] <sinbox> this is a dangerous job Arsdoff
[02:25] <Arsdoff> cannot open display
[02:26] <sinbox> D'oh I forgot
[02:26] <sinbox> are you familiar at all with vi or emacs?
[02:26] <Arsdoff> Not at all.
[02:27] <Arsdoff> I'm in a good spot right now, am I not? (sarcasm fades)
[02:27] <sinbox> right, you probably want to wait for someone which is more experienced than me then, i don't want to tell you something stupid and mess it up even worse
[02:27] <Arsdoff> I don't care about any of the data on my pc.
[02:28] <Arsdoff> If I could somehow load up a fresh copy of Xubuntu or Ubuntu Eee, I would be just as happy
[02:28] <__BSD__> is there a remote desktop server on xubuntu like the one on Ubuntu? if so where? im not finding it, also if NO, what is a good vncserver to use? (i need one that i can configure the ports for it)
[02:30] <sinbox> I'm asking about a command I found before I give it to you
[02:33] <Arsdoff> Should I explain how I got into this predicament?
[02:33] <Arsdoff> I think so
[02:34] <sinbox> hehe I get into predicaments all the time and hardly ever know why but do go on
[02:35] <sinbox> which ubuntu version are you using by the way Arsdoff ?
[02:35] <Arsdoff> I played with the display settings- trying to get the external monitor to work, and I believe I changed the settings on the laptops monitor, so when I log in now, I get a slurred unreadable interface that fills the top half of the screen while leaving the bottom black.  I cannot navigate the menus, so I cannot undo this.
[02:35] <Arsdoff> Xubuntu
[02:35] <Arsdoff> No idea which version
[02:36] <sinbox> OK, how did you mess it up then?
[02:37] <Arsdoff> I believe the change I made was in Display Settings / similar option menu, where I changed it to the wrong monitor type / version/ size, so when the computer was reset, the display was unreadable/ unnavigable.
[02:38] <Arsdoff> slashes change the slant of the text...
[02:40] <sinbox> ok just looking up some info for you brb
[02:40] <taiyed> hello
[02:41] <sinbox> ok Arsdoff try this in terminal: cat /etc/issue
[02:41] <sinbox> should tell you which version you are running
[02:41] <taiyed> I've got an audio issure
[02:41] <taiyed> issue*
[02:41] <Arsdoff> I would really like to install another OS, if it were possible and/or easyier.  I have a damn Eee Pc with no disc drive, and none of my memory sticks seem to be bootable.  I am frustrated. it says Ubuntu 7.10 \n \l
[02:41] <Arsdoff> sorry
[02:41] <Arsdoff> those got stuck together
[02:42] <sinbox> do you know what the settings were before you changed them Arsdoff ?
[02:43] <Arsdoff> No, and I did try to reset them before I left the menu, but I failed, I guess.
[02:43] <sinbox> I'm not too good with sound issues taiyed mine was all messed up with xubuntu
[02:43] <sinbox> OK I'll see if I can find out what you'll need Arsdoff
[02:44] <taiyed> heh, it alright
[02:44] <taiyed> im not sure if its an xfce thing, or a kernal thing
[02:49] <sinbox> not sure, the exact same setup running in gnome was fine, only messed up the sound when on xfce
[02:51] <taiyed> I'm running ubuntu server, and installed xubuntu-desktop
[02:52] <sinbox> could be that I think server uses a different kernel to the generic one
[02:52] <taiyed> I'm thinking it might be an xfce thing, because my sound card (onboard) is reconized and everything seems like it working, just no audio output
[02:53] <sinbox> Arsdoff, I think I found what you need
[02:53] <Arsdoff> yay!
[02:53] <taiyed> i was thinking that the server kernals might not have what i need.
[02:53] <sinbox> Arsdoff, you will need to run this command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:54] <sinbox> it should ask you some info about your screen and you need to give it the correct info
[02:54] <Arsdoff> does it need to be sudo if I am already logged in as root?
[02:54] <sinbox> you can try without sudo
[02:54] <sinbox> not sure you ever are root in ubuntu
[02:55] <sinbox> so are you talking to us via your eee pc right now or are you on another machine Arsdoff ?
[02:55] <Arsdoff> Yes
[02:55] <dejabox> hello everyone
[02:55] <taiyed> heh
[02:55] <taiyed> hi
[02:56] <sinbox> hello dejabox
[02:56] <dejabox> greetings cool ppl
[02:56] <Arsdoff> Attempt to autodetect video hardware? y'n
[02:56] <sinbox> y :)
[02:56] <dejabox> I hope I amnot interrupting any important conv.
[02:57] <dejabox> I have a question for everyone
[02:57] <taiyed> oka
[02:57] <taiyed> shoot
[02:57] <Arsdoff> X server Driver:
[02:57] <Arsdoff> there is a list, I believe intel is highlited
[02:58] <Arsdoff> Worst comes to worst I come back and try again right?
[02:58] <dejabox> I recently downloaded some new mouse pointers for xubuntu but everytime i try to edit them with gimp the file does not open...I changed the extension to png and all the others, ...Does anyone know how to edit pointers for xubuntu?
[02:59] <sinbox> yes Arsdoff  i think it should be an intel on the eee pc, otherwise if you have a spare terminal you can run this: lspci | grep -i vga
[02:59] <sinbox> which should give you the model
[03:00] <sinbox> sorry no idea about that dejabox, what are the pointers file extension normally?
[03:00] <Arsdoff> It's asking me for the video cards bus identifier.  I kind of understand the question, but I ahve no clue what the answer is, except that it starts with PCI:0:2:0
[03:01] <dejabox> normally an image file but these ones are...."x11 cursor"
[03:03] <sinbox> Arsdoff, just press enter if you odn't know the identifier
[03:04] <taiyed> dejabox have you looked at gursormaker
[03:07] <dejabox> yes i already downloaded it but does not seem to work ....perhaps it is me the one that has not found the way around ...maybe if i could edit the x11 files as noraml image files...after all all cursors are raster files
[03:10] <sinbox> Arsdoff, gettiung anywhere?
[03:10] <Arsdoff> It just keeps giving me more choices, I am mostly sticking to defaults
[03:10] <sinbox> wise move
[03:11] <Arsdoff> Crap
[03:11] <Arsdoff> It's asking me for a mouse port
[03:12] <Arsdoff> And I have a touchpad, where I do not know the port associated with it
[03:12] <dejabox> well thanks everyone anyways
[03:12] <Arsdoff> Options are:
[03:12] <Arsdoff> 1. /dev/input/mice
[03:13] <Arsdoff> 2. /dev/psaux
[03:13] <Arsdoff> 3. /dev/ttySo
[03:13] <Arsdoff> 4. /dev/gpmdata
[03:14] <Arsdoff> end options
[03:21] <mezquitale> which chat client do you recommend for xubuntu?
[03:22] <Arsdoff> Finished, I think
[03:22] <Arsdoff> reboot?
[03:22] <sinbox> are you in tty at the moment?
[03:23] <Arsdoff> tty=?
[03:23] <Arsdoff> I'm back in the terminal, I believe
[03:23] <Arsdoff> DoS style
[03:23] <sinbox> you should be able to get back to login screen with alt+F7
[03:23] <sinbox> if not reboot
[03:24] <Arsdoff> this does not look good
[03:24] <Arsdoff> I'll reboot
[03:25] <sinbox> mezquitale, I just use xchat
[03:25] <mezquitale> sinbox, ok im going to install it on my xubuntu box right now, brb in a few, thanks!
[03:26] <Arsdoff> SUCCESS!!!
[03:26] <Arsdoff> thank you so much
[03:26] <sinbox> phew
[03:26] <sinbox> you're welcome
[03:26] <Arsdoff> Reboot was needed for effects to take place
[03:29] <sinbox> well, if you want to play with your display again just make sure you make a backup of this file first: /etc/X11/xorg.conf then if it goes all wrong you can just replace the working one
[03:53] <chriswaterguy> I'm just trying out the LiveCD. I like the idea of fast and light, but I was reading that xubuntu is "definitely limited compare to gnome or kde". In what ways?
[03:54] <chriswaterguy> (I used 7.04 then Ubuntu 7.10 and had lots of software and hardware headaches with both - so I'm looking more closely this time.)
[03:58] <dejabox> it is not really limited
[03:59] <dejabox> rathr it is stre
[03:59] <dejabox> rather it is streamlined for speed and without frills
[04:00] <dejabox> for example, the normal ubuntu does play any mp3 files upon mouseover, yet xubuntu does not
[04:01] <dejabox> you can add the frills later on
[04:01] <dejabox> it is up to you
[04:02] <chriswaterguy> that sounds good to me.
[04:24] <jmichaelx> xubuntu is not limited, but neither is it all that light
[04:25] <jmichaelx> i'm sure it's somewhat lighter than ubuntu, but not dramatically
[04:26] <jmichaelx> normal ubuntu plays mp3 files upon mouseover?? since when does it do that?
[04:26] <chriswaterguy> I've heard about that.
[04:26] <chriswaterguy> Can setup make a difference? I read "you could also do a minimal install of ubuntu and add xfce4. it requires alot of work to get it set up, but it will be lightning fast."
[04:27] <jmichaelx> chriswaterguy: you could definitely do that
[04:27] <jmichaelx> chriswaterguy: and i don't think it would be all that difficult
[04:28] <jmichaelx> it would require a bit more work, but it would not be that awful
[04:28] <chriswaterguy> k. and then it would be set up more to my liking, I guess, and maybe faster?
[04:29] <jmichaelx> chriswaterguy: if you would stick to lighter software, and read about turning off services you don't use,  yes, you could make it lighter and faster
[04:32] <jmichaelx> chriswaterguy: if you google something like 'minimal ubuntu with xfce', you would be amazed how much you would find
[04:33] <chriswaterguy> k. I'm wary of following advice I find in blogs and forums, tho. Some of it is bad, or just wastes time. (Need a good wiki!)
[04:33] <jmichaelx> you could also consider using an even lighter working environment ... a window manager like fluxbox or openbox
[04:34] <jmichaelx> there is a very light window manager called fvwm-crystal, which is very light and very sharp looking
[04:34] <chriswaterguy> k. These are less well supported than Xfce tho, I assume?
[04:35] <chriswaterguy> the minimal ubuntu with xfce approach would be faster, or just less disk space?
[04:35] <jmichaelx> i guess it all depends on what you call well supported
[04:36] <jmichaelx> chriswaterguy: it should be both, but you really should read about how other people have done it.. whether you follow every step they took or not
[04:43] <chriswaterguy> that's looking like a tempting option.
[05:13] <chriswaterguy> Thank you very much for your help! Must go work now.
[08:30] <dvdm> where does the tifm_sd module create the device that I can use to mount
[08:31] <dvdm> ?
[08:31] <ooglebutte> in /dev more than likely
[08:39] <generalsnus> so.. where can i set a skeleton/profile template for new users?   i want to remove stuff on the panel/set wallpaper etc... so they can change it again
[08:39] <generalsnus> cant*
[08:49] <generalsnus> hm.. what config files and such.. holds the panel and wallpaper config for xubuntu?
[08:51] <ooglebutte> they are in .config in the /home/user folder iirc
[08:51] <dvdm> ooglebutte: yes- which device?  I do not see new devices being created...
[08:53] <ooglebutte> dvdm: I don't know what h/ware that module is for - a bit more info might help :)
[08:54] <ooglebutte> devices are in /dev
[08:54] <generalsnus> so if i do chmod 755 /home/username/.config     the user can read the settings.. but not change them?
[08:55] <ooglebutte> I prefer chmod -w but those numbers seem right
[08:56] <generalsnus> so there shouldnt be any problems for the user to run apps and such?
[08:56] <ooglebutte> I've never done that but you aren't changing execute with -w so it should be fine
[08:57] <dvdm> ooglebutte: running 8.10. that modeule is used for SD card slots
[08:57] <dvdm> it detects it, but I can not see which device to mount
[08:57] <jho1> bnb
[08:57] <ooglebutte> dvdm: does it show in   sudo fdisk -l   ? - that normally gives a clue
[08:58] <generalsnus> hm ..  -w changes it to write for all?
[08:58] <generalsnus> or am i mistaken?
[08:59] <dvdm> and no new devices apear in /dev/...
[08:59] <ooglebutte> +w to write   -w to not write
[08:59] <generalsnus> wouldnt that include root aswell?
[09:00] <ooglebutte> not with the user as you were doing - chmod -w /home/username/.config
[09:01] <generalsnus> or sudo
[09:01] <generalsnus> just afaid sudo would lose access to it...   but it seems i need to use sudo to set permissions
[09:02] <ooglebutte> if you want to change permissions for another user you need sudo
[09:03] <ooglebutte> again - -w will only change the write permissions so it should be fine
[09:03] <jho1> hi, I'm trying to install scribus but I get this msg: dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH.
[09:03] <jho1> dpkg: 1 expected program(s) not found on PATH.
[09:03] <jho1> NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin.
[09:03] <jho1> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[09:05] <ooglebutte> jho1: how did you try to install it?
[09:07] <jho1> I've used sudo apt-get
[09:07] <ooglebutte> jholkeep it in the channel please
[09:07] <ooglebutte> !info scribus
[09:07] <jho1> ok, sorry
[09:08] <jho1> ok, tnx
[09:08] <generalsnus> well i changed the permission on /home/username/.config  so that owner could only read from it.... now the user cant login
[09:09] <ooglebutte> jho1: you did sudo apt-get install scribus?
[09:09] <dvdm> ooglebutte: tried that, and it only shows the SATA disk
[09:10] <ooglebutte> dvdm: sorry - never played with sd cards
[09:10] <jho1> ooglebutte:yes but this always seem to appear
[09:10] <ooglebutte> jho1: in terminal what does the command   $PATH   return?
[09:12] <ooglebutte> generalsnus: you may need to limit the -w to the panel and what not that are in config - I would do one at a time
[09:12] <jho1> ooglebutte: it says bash: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games: No such file or directory
[09:12] <ooglebutte> so chmod +w .config and redo one at a time
[09:13] <ooglebutte> jho1: and what does   sudo $PATH   return ? any diff?
[09:14] <jho1> ooglebutte:it returns the same msg, no diff
[09:15] <ooglebutte> jho1: does    locate update-rc.d    return anything?
[09:17] <jho1> ooglebutte: yes, it says /usr/share/man/man8/update-rc.d.8.gz
[09:17] <jho1> /usr/share/man/fr/man8/update-rc.d.8.gz
[09:17] <jho1> /usr/share/man/ja/man8/update-rc.d.8.gz
[09:17] <jho1> /usr/share/man/es/man8/update-rc.d.8.gz
[09:19] <ooglebutte> jho1: so the executable isn't in /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin - I would try   sudo apt-get install update-rc.d
[09:20] <ooglebutte> there is only the man pages for some reason
[09:21] <jho1> ooglebutte: it says can't find package
[09:23] <dvdm> ooglebutte: no problem. thanks anyway... will keep looking around
[09:24] <ooglebutte> jho1: I can't find it either - one min
[09:25] <jho1> ok, tnx for this man...
[09:27] <ooglebutte> jho1: does   update-rc.d   return anything? - I get usage info here
[09:29] <ooglebutte> jho1: another point that might count - which xubuntu version you using?
[09:30] <jho1> ooglebutte:ok, now I get it, my version is 7.10
[09:31] <jho1> ooglebutte:that means I really have to upgrade?
[09:31] <jho1> tnx man...
[09:31] <ooglebutte> jho1: that is still supported - try sudo apt-get update
[09:34] <jho1> ooglebutte:I've finished the upgrade but still no effect...
[09:34] <ooglebutte> try to install scribus now
[09:34] <jho1> ooglebutte:still the same
[09:34] <jho1> ooglebutte:the update-rc.d too
[09:35] <ooglebutte> jho1: sorry then - I can't find the package that has update-rc.d in it - I'm still googling tho
[09:36] <jho1> ok, tnx...
[09:38] <ooglebutte> jho1: here's mine - you can copy it to /usr/sbin if you want
[09:38] <ooglebutte> http://paste.ubuntu.com/79223/
[09:40] <ooglebutte> I would   gksu mousepad   in terminal   then save to /usr/sbin
[09:40] <jho1> ooglebutte:tnx, I'll try this one...
[09:40] <ooglebutte> k
[09:50] <jho1> ooglebutte:still can't install
[09:50] <jho1> ooglebutte:maybe I should upgrade the system...
[09:52] <ooglebutte> jho1: 7.10 is good 'till april next year - you can upgrade to hardy if you want - and I'm out of ideas - others will wake in a bit, try asking in a while
[09:55] <jho1> ooglebutte:ok, tnx again...
[14:41] <newfeats> hi.  how do i enable 3D acceleration like GNOME can?
[16:22] <atari> does anyone know the config option in firefox to prevent the workspace changing?
[16:23] <Myrtti> yeah, hold on
[16:23] <Myrtti> http://blog.cihar.com/archives/2008/11/13/firefox_hidden_config_of_the_day/
[16:24] <atari> thx Myrtti
[16:24] <atari> since i know about that "feature" i really like it :)
[16:24] <Myrtti> np
[16:24] <atari> but it's annoying :/
[16:25] <Myrtti> it is...
[16:25] <Myrtti> I've always loved the workspaces and that bugger is nasy
[16:25] <Myrtti> nasty
[16:26] <atari> is it really a bug or a feature?
[16:26] <jarnos> Is there a way to stop all scripts in pages that are not focused in Firefox?
[16:26] <atari> i cant understand why they dont change it...
[16:26] <jarnos> ..possibly including plugins.
[16:26] <Myrtti> atari: well, it's a feature for some
[16:26] <Myrtti> I'm sure
[16:27] <Myrtti> for me it's a bug
[16:37] <jarnos> Myrtti: I think the configuration has no effect, if you open in a new window instead of a tab.
[16:38] <atari> Myrtti: i'd say a bug, too
[16:40] <jarnos> The tab is easier to find, if it gets focused and raised.
[16:43] <jarnos> Can you open a whole Firefox session in background so that it does not steal focus?
[16:43] <atari> is there a way to enable the link loading when inserting a link with the middle mouse key as there were in firefox 2?
[17:27] <Myrtti> mh
[17:27] <Myrtti> was there any app yet for editing the gtk colours?
[17:27] <atari> gtk colors?
[17:27] <atari> the theme?
[17:28] <Myrtti> yeah.
[17:28] <Myrtti> well what I mean is
[17:28] <Myrtti> Ubuntu and Gnome's theme manager allows you to change some parts of the colour scheme
[17:29] <Myrtti> I love to have a dark coloured theme, but I'd also love a white default background :-<
[17:30] <atari> just edit the theme?
[17:30] <Myrtti> meh.
[17:31] <Myrtti> that would actually require active *thinking*
[17:31] <Myrtti> :-P
[17:31] <atari> ah yeah... right... i see the problem... :P
[17:32] <atari> have you ever thought about taking a knife and get ridd of the problem? *run*
[17:40] <sinbox> is 8,04 using the rt kernel or not?
[17:45] <Myrtti> sinbox: AFAIK it depends if you've installed and configured it to be used or not
[17:46] <sinbox> as I haven't I guess that's a no then, thanks Myrtti bonus question: if i install and configure it can I then go back to the generic kernel easily?
[17:49] <neozen> sinbox: I would assume so.... just remove the package which installed it
[17:49] <neozen> linux-image-rt or something similar
[17:49] <Myrtti> yup
[17:50] <sinbox> ok thanks neozen and Myrtti will try that in a while
[18:43] <BBWonder> aloha!
[18:43] <BBWonder> does anyone have or know of a good guide to get system sounds in xubuntu hardy?
[18:59] <neozen> BBWonder: heh.... never noticed.... but it is missing them isn't it
[18:59] <BBWonder> yeah
[18:59] <BBWonder> all I ever here is pc-speaker bleeps
[19:00] <neozen> BBWonder: can tell you how to kill those if they're annoying
[19:00] <neozen> BBWonder: (always were for me)
[19:00] <BBWonder> neozen: yeah they are, howto?
[19:00] <neozen> BBWonder: xset b off
[19:00] <neozen> BBWonder: that should do it
[19:00] <neozen> BBWonder: set it as one of your autostarted apps
[19:01] <BBWonder> neoze: will try thank
[19:02] <neozen> BBWonder: running in a terminal window while X is started will disable them immediately for the current X session
[19:03] <BBWonder> neozen: thank
[19:04] <neozen> BBWonder: np
[19:10] <psicobra> hi all does any one know how to install xgl?
[19:10] <zoredache> !xgl
[19:10] <psicobra> lol
[19:10] <neozen> psicobra: if you're meaning compiz ..yeah.. got a guide for that
[19:11] <zoredache> !compiz
[19:11] <psicobra> i have compiz insalled and it works great and i have AWN installed but when i run it it gives an error about XGL
[19:11] <psicobra> AWN still works but when i run any games the gfx are all messed up
[19:12] <psicobra> i think it's summit to do with XGL
[19:12] <neozen> psicobra: ahhh...
[19:13] <neozen> psicobra: nope... couldn't help w/ that...
[19:13] <psicobra> k thanks anny ways
[19:57] <neuvillas> Hi all
[19:58] <neuvillas> I'd like to setup my desktop backgroup with a script : what is the equivalent to gconftool  ?
[22:03] <Aquina> hy ;-)
[22:09] <R1cochet> hi
[22:09] <knome> hello Aquina & R1cochet
[22:20] <R1cochet> hey knome
[22:30] <jmichaelx> i have a them for xfce on my laptop called 'black garden'. i don't remember where i got this, or whether this might be something that came with xubuntu. do any of you know, by chance?
[22:30] <knome> jmichaelx, "them" ?
[22:31] <jmichaelx> them is a common abbreviation for 'theme'! duh!!
[22:31] <jmichaelx> just kidding
[22:31] <jmichaelx> theme*
[22:32] <knome> haha. ok
[22:32] <jmichaelx> i don't know if i grabbed this theme from somewhere, or if maybe it is a gtk theme that ubuntu is including
[22:32] <knome> http://xfce-look.org/ ?
[22:32] <jmichaelx> i looked there, and am not seeing it
[22:32] <jmichaelx> i really like it
[22:35] <knome> jmichaelx, just a moment.
[22:36] <knome> jmichaelx, http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/BlackGarden?content=89218 (was on gnome-look.org)
[22:37] <jmichaelx> ty, knome, that is probably where i got it. it looks really nice in xfce4
[22:37] <knome> suppose so. personally i don't like dark themes :)
[22:46] <R1cochet> so what was the problem with it?
[22:46] <R1cochet> the theme
[22:47] <knome> R1cochet, he didn't know where to get it :)
[22:47] <knome> just googled for it for him... :]
[22:48] <Aquina> :-)
[22:57] <R1cochet> ahh £ãugh¡ñg Òut £öuÐ
[22:57] <R1cochet> i like it
[22:57] <R1cochet> i like em dark tho :)
[23:20] <Aquina> Anyone an idea why in APPLICATIONS -> SYSTEM CONTROL-> USERINTERFACE the theme "Crystal SVG" is shown two times in a row?
[23:20] <Aquina> I already stated that question a bit more detailled on launchpad but got no usefull response yet.
[23:21] <TheSheep> Aquina: maybe you have two themes with that name?
[23:21] <Aquina> Please help! ;-)
[23:21] <Aquina> no
[23:21] <Aquina> I checked the usr/share/fooooo folders with the themes in it and the index.theme files.
[23:21] <TheSheep> how about ~/.themes ?
[23:22] <Aquina> doesn't exist
[23:22] <knome> Aquina, does it really matter you? :)
[23:22] <Aquina> yes couse it's a bug that need to be solved. it's item 136a on my list.
[23:23] <Aquina> I'm searchin for a solution for two days....
[23:23] <TheSheep> forgive me my curiosity, hwat is the item 136?
[23:23] <knome> Aquina, well, kind of yes, but xfce 4.6 is most probably going to be at jaunty anyway
[23:23] <Aquina> my bug/itemlist for our organization. The problem affexts 22 systems with Xubuntu.
[23:24] <Aquina> "be at jauntyanyway" What does that mean?
[23:24] <TheSheep> !jaunty
[23:24] <Aquina> Yeah but there's  rule....
[23:25] <TheSheep> Aquina: any path after the release is pretty hard to push anyways
[23:25] <TheSheep> patch
[23:25] <knome> Aquina, the big question is: does it affect performance or the looks?
[23:26] <TheSheep> does it threaten the user data?
[23:26] <Aquina> ..never use something like apt-get upgrade or yum upgrade AT ALL. Sorry but I cannot dix that with 9.04. I'm not a kiddy experimenting but an admin maintaining a whole network and keeping everything operational. That bug is truely a minor one but I want it to be fixed. ;-)
[23:27] <Aquina> Nevertheless I thank all of you. You're so eger to help me! :-)
[23:27] <Aquina> I#m gonna mark it as fixed in Citadell
[23:27] <Aquina> thx
[23:28] <TheSheep> citadell?
[23:28] <Aquina> that groupware. We used .project before...
[23:28] <TheSheep> mark it as 'wontfix' :)
[23:28] <Aquina> :D
[23:32] <jmichaelx> is there a way to get thunar to allow a person to move items when dragging and dropping, instead of only copying?
[23:33] <forces> saluton
[23:33] <TheSheep> jmichaelx: hold down shift
[23:33] <jmichaelx> TheSheep: ty very much
[23:34] <Aquina> Oh man had anyone ever had issues with Paypal in here?
[23:34] <forces> are xubuntu for 64bits?
[23:34] <Aquina> Those guys are so stupid...
[23:34] <TheSheep> forces: yes
[23:35] <TheSheep> Aquina: ot :)
[23:35] <forces> someone have instaled?
[23:36] <TheSheep> lots of people, I suppose
[23:36] <Aquina> sure, TheSheep. sry
[23:36] <ELHN> Hey
[23:36] <ELHN> How would I get "Places"
[23:37] <ELHN> to show up in the xfce menu?
[23:37] <TheSheep> ELHN: it's a panel plugin -- right click on the panel, select 'add new item', find the places plugin on the list
[23:37] <ELHN> and not just in the panel
[23:37] <ELHN> like, if I right click
[23:37] <TheSheep> ELHN: not possible
[23:38] <ELHN> crud
[23:38] <ELHN> thanks anyways
[23:39] <ELHN> I was thinking it would be like Places/whatever>filesystem/other drives>folders
[23:39] <ELHN> Also, anyone here use tint?
[23:41] <R1cochet> isnt there something in "window manager" or "window manager tweaks"
[23:41] <TheSheep> R1cochet: "something"?
[23:42] <R1cochet> for right click
[23:42] <TheSheep> for Places? no
[23:43] <R1cochet> i dont remember im running compiz and cant look in window manager setting atm
[23:44] <TheSheep> it would be in desktop settings, if it existed
[23:44] <R1cochet> i saw a tick box somewhere for adding to rt-click list
[23:44] <TheSheep> that's for list of windows and the apps menu
[23:45] <R1cochet> ahh yea
[23:45] <R1cochet> just tried it £ãugh¡ñg Òut £öuÐ
[23:45] <R1cochet> i like
[23:46] <ELHN> http://forum.xfce.org/index.php?topic=3961.0
[23:46] <ELHN> I think this well help me