| cprov | fta: are you okay with it ? | 00:00 |
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| fta | cprov, will I be able to push the same tarball again? ie, without bumping the version? | 00:04 |
| cprov | fta: yes, even 'undelete' the same version if you discover that the problem is somewhere else. | 00:05 |
| fta | it's strange as that part of my code hasn't change in a while all ppa builders were fine before | 00:07 |
| fta | cprov, did builders changed shell recently ? like bash vs dash or something ? | 00:14 |
| cprov | fta: I don't know for sure, not recently IIRC | 00:15 |
| Hobbsee | er, is something wrong with the build allocator? | 00:15 |
| Hobbsee | like the 17 amd64 builds in the queue, and the 6 idle buildds? | 00:16 |
| stdin | all of them just finished building a minute ago | 00:17 |
| Hobbsee | oh, there we go. now the others have some | 00:19 |
| fta | Hobbsee, those were my 9 songbird builds killed by cprov :P | 00:24 |
| Hobbsee | fta: ah. | 00:24 |
| Hobbsee | fta: would you try *not* to break the buildds? :P | 00:24 |
| fta | i can't understand why it froze, looks like a bug in cdbs but i seriously doubt it, not on 3 distros at once. | 00:26 |
| Hobbsee | does it happen if it's not a .bz2 file used? | 00:28 |
| fta | it used to work just fine, ex: https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/+build/749544 | 00:30 |
| wgrant | It's Mozilla. What do you expect? | 00:34 |
| jml | wgrant: *really* complicated legal issues. | 00:43 |
| fta | what am i supposed to do now ? give up ? | 00:45 |
| * Hobbsee hands fta a larger hammer | 00:47 | |
| fta | cprov, what did you mean by 'undelete' the same version ? | 00:52 |
| fta | <wgrant> Why are there .tar.bz2s in there? <= embedded tarballs | 00:56 |
| kiko | fta, not sure either. hmmm | 01:00 |
| wgrant | fta: Why is there an embedded xulrunner? Security people will eat you alive. | 01:03 |
| wgrant | fta: You can copy the deleted source back into your PPA, effectively undeleting it. | 01:04 |
| Hobbsee | wow, really? That's an interesting workflow. | 01:05 |
| * Hobbsee wonders how many people have figured out to use that, and wonders how many other such interesting workflows there are, waiting, undiscovered | 01:06 | |
| wgrant | One can't really just mangle the old publishing. That would be ugly. | 01:06 |
| Hobbsee | being able to copy something that's "deleted" is also ugly. | 01:07 |
| * Hobbsee empties the trash, the trash is gone. I can't do anything else with it. Why is LP different? | 01:07 | |
| Hobbsee | i'm sure it can be useful, at times - but damn, it's rather counterintuitive! | 01:07 |
| wgrant | You should know by now that you can't delete anything unless it's in launchpad-bazaar. | 01:07 |
| fta | wgrant, there's an embedded xul because it is patched afterwards by songbird. it's not different from other xulapps, such as flock, instandbird, openkomodo, and many more | 01:10 |
| wgrant | Oh dear god. | 01:10 |
| wgrant | That's really not cool. | 01:11 |
| fta | we are trying to fight against that but so far, only firefox is ready to have the xul engine outside | 01:11 |
| kiko | wgrant, real life is full of reality :) the xul runner isn't quite there yet.. | 01:12 |
| fta | in fact, the xul sdk is heavily patched by a lot of upstream projects | 01:12 |
| fta | so far, xul is mainly driven by firefox and to some extents, by thunderbird and seamonkey | 01:13 |
| fta | so all the other xul users have their own patches | 01:14 |
| wgrant | WHy haven't they sent them upstream? | 01:15 |
| kiko | oh, they do. but I think there are a few design issues and these patches aren't exactly quick to review | 01:15 |
| fta | wgrant, they did, but there are zillions of patches are waiting in bugzilla | 01:15 |
| fta | -are | 01:15 |
| fta | kiko, i don't know what i should do with songbird now. i need a clue of what is going on from the inside. a strace or something. | 01:18 |
| kiko | fta, one of the problems is that we don't easily have access to the buildds | 01:18 |
| fta | hm | 01:18 |
| kiko | though.. lamont` aya? | 01:18 |
| wgrant | Doesn't cprov have lots of access to the PPA builders? | 01:18 |
| kiko | I don't think he does | 01:18 |
| kiko | but lamont` is a safer bet for help | 01:19 |
| wgrant | Hm, I thought he did, but /me will trust you on that. | 01:19 |
| fta | kiko, so no songbird for you today, i'm afraid. | 01:21 |
| * wgrant bashes the SP home page for losing useful information. | 01:22 | |
| kiko | fta, snif. but we'll get to the bottom of it tomorrow | 01:22 |
| fta | too bad because it's really nice | 01:22 |
| kiko | fta, it's a weird thing. an admin being around will help though | 01:22 |
| kiko | yeah, I hear it is -- jdahlin is all ravin about it here in the office | 01:22 |
| fta | i have a deb for i386/jaunty if you want :) | 01:23 |
| kiko | I'm not THAT brave no matter what my scars might suggest!! | 01:23 |
| fta | ok, np. | 01:24 |
| wgrant | kiko: Pfft, we're way past Alpha 1! | 01:24 |
| kiko | okay let's get some rest | 01:24 |
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| kiko-zzz | but catch you tomorrow! | 01:24 |
| wgrant | Night. | 01:24 |
| fta | me too. 2am+ here | 01:24 |
| fta | ++ | 01:24 |
| kiko-zzz | fta, I appreciate the effort on your end though | 01:24 |
| kiko-zzz | many thanks | 01:24 |
| kiko-zzz | will look into it tomorrow | 01:25 |
| fta | thanks | 01:25 |
| hggdh | heh. rutadeeavuacion is back | 01:36 |
| hggdh | sigh, cannot event write the name of the sucker right... | 01:36 |
| hggdh | 29 new bugs by him/her | 01:37 |
| wgrant | There is no spm :( | 01:38 |
| wgrant | Ursinha: ^^ | 01:38 |
| Hobbsee | hggdh: he's only going to go away when they manage to get the bugs out of hte account locking. | 01:38 |
| wgrant | I haven't seen a fix for that yet. | 01:38 |
| hggdh | Hobbsee, I know. I wonder if he is just trying to piss us off | 01:38 |
| Hobbsee | hggdh: likely | 01:38 |
| wgrant | maurizio-live is the account in question this time. | 01:38 |
| * hggdh bets the sucker about 13 years -- full of testosterone, and no real functional brain | 01:39 | |
| Ursinha | hggdh, wgrant, back, again? | 01:40 |
| wgrant | hggdh: I was a perfectly useful community member at 13. | 01:40 |
| wgrant | Ursinha: As usual. | 01:40 |
| hggdh | Ursinha, yay | 01:40 |
| Ursinha | haha no real functional brain | 01:40 |
| hggdh | wgrant, there are always exceptions to the rule | 01:40 |
| * hggdh was not one | 01:40 | |
| jml | my brain uses monads for extra functional power. | 01:40 |
| wgrant | Ursinha: Is there any progress on the fix to make account deactivation actually work? | 01:41 |
| mthaddon | have just disabled that user again... | 01:41 |
| wgrant | mthaddon: Thanks. | 01:41 |
| Ursinha | mthaddon, thanks | 01:41 |
| wgrant | How long until it reactivates it, I wonder. | 01:41 |
| hggdh | by know he knows the drill | 01:42 |
| Hobbsee | time it takes for him to realise he's logged out + a few seconds + 3 mins to exploit the LP bug to reactivate it + another minute to log in | 01:42 |
| Hobbsee | so, probably, not long. | 01:42 |
| hggdh | are the bugs going to be, huh, auto-rejected? | 01:42 |
| wgrant | I would hope they have the script to mark private and remove all subscribers by now. | 01:43 |
| Hobbsee | apparently launchpad doesn't have that functionality either, when I asked about it. | 01:43 |
| Hobbsee | but, if there's another answer, it'd be great ;) | 01:43 |
| hggdh | ah, back to linking blueprints | 01:44 |
| wgrant | Excellent. | 01:45 |
| wgrant | I must file a bug about that. | 01:45 |
| wgrant | Private bugs show up there. | 01:45 |
| Hobbsee | oh, do they? | 01:45 |
| Hobbsee | wonderful | 01:45 |
| hggdh | clamav has lotsa of them | 01:45 |
| hggdh | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/clamav-spamassassin-in-main | 01:46 |
| Hobbsee | mthaddon: there's no functionality to keep a user's account alive, but not let them post anything, is there? | 01:46 |
| mthaddon | Hobbsee, fraid not | 01:46 |
| Hobbsee | mthaddon: pity. Perhaps there needs to be a new category for that, rather than just disabling the accounts, or something. | 01:47 |
| mthaddon | Hobbsee, I think it'd be better to be able to disable an account and prevent it being re-enabled (i.e. blacklist email addresses, perhaps) | 01:48 |
| Hobbsee | mthaddon: perhaps. And IP or something, i'd hope | 01:48 |
| Hobbsee | email addresses are cheap. | 01:48 |
| mthaddon | Hobbsee, yeah, IPs can be changed too - but I agree, would be a good facility to have | 01:48 |
| Hobbsee | .htaccess? :P | 01:49 |
| mthaddon | Hobbsee, we don't use apache in that way :) | 01:50 |
| Hobbsee | mthaddon: i'm sure you could find an equivalent :P | 01:50 |
| mthaddon | yeah... | 01:50 |
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| meoblast001 | hi | 02:59 |
| meoblast001 | is launchpad opensource? | 02:59 |
| beuno | meoblast001, not yet | 03:04 |
| beuno | next year | 03:04 |
| meoblast001 | for real? | 03:04 |
| beuno | we're in the process of shaping things to be able to release it | 03:04 |
| beuno | yeap | 03:04 |
| meoblast001 | YAY | 03:04 |
| meoblast001 | cuz i have a "team" thats outragously small that uses launchpad | 03:05 |
| meoblast001 | we do opensource and eventually will do a few proprietary too | 03:05 |
| meoblast001 | but the current LP setup doesnt like proprietary | 03:05 |
| beuno | well | 03:05 |
| beuno | there's a service you can pay for to use launchpad with propietary projects | 03:05 |
| meoblast001 | beuno, yeah thats a bit of a problem =P | 03:06 |
| meoblast001 | im 15 and cant work due to child labor laws in the US | 03:06 |
| meoblast001 | no money.... cant pay | 03:06 |
| beuno | right | 03:06 |
| beuno | well, you'll have to wait til next year | 03:06 |
| meoblast001 | ok | 03:06 |
| meoblast001 | dont have any proprietary apps planned for this year though | 03:07 |
| meoblast001 | all opensource | 03:07 |
| beuno | cool | 03:07 |
| === jamesh__ is now known as jamesh | ||
| jamesh | jml: so, it turns out that the test sorting in testresources was completely busted up until last night. If you're using it for anything, you might want to upgrade. | 03:08 |
| jml | jamesh: by "completely busted", what do you mean? | 03:08 |
| meoblast001 | beuno, and i also fear dependence..... which the current launchpad setup makes me do | 03:08 |
| jamesh | jml: as in "did not do what it claimed to do" | 03:09 |
| meoblast001 | beuno, if some crazy stock market crash miraculously made canonical go under... no more launchpad | 03:09 |
| jml | jamesh: because I've known about some pretty severe bugs in it for a while. | 03:09 |
| jml | jamesh: where it picked an arbitrary start node, for example. | 03:09 |
| jamesh | jml: it was ordering tests based on their distance from the start node only. | 03:10 |
| jamesh | distance being resource setup cost | 03:10 |
| jml | jamesh: oh wow. | 03:10 |
| jamesh | jml: trunk is fixed now (checking each test permutation), and I've got a branch pending to make it a bit faster and not rearrange tests unnecessarily | 03:11 |
| jml | jamesh: sweet. | 03:11 |
| jamesh | my branch just groups the tests by the resource combinations they use, then does the same brute force search on those resource combinations instead of on the tests | 03:12 |
| jamesh | which is a lot less work | 03:12 |
| jml | I thought I already did that :( | 03:12 |
| jml | it's possible that lifeless changed it around when he landed his recent sorting improvements. | 03:13 |
| jamesh | If you did, I didn't see it up on LP :( | 03:13 |
| jml | jamesh: hmm. | 03:13 |
| jml | jamesh: it's also possible that I thought it really loudly. | 03:13 |
| jamesh | jml: his initial sorting improvements just created a dummy 'start' node in the graph that represented "no resources" | 03:14 |
| jamesh | it was still using "distance from starting node" to sort though | 03:14 |
| jamesh | yesterday we moved from there to a locally optimised walk of the graph to the globally optimised sort it now uses. | 03:15 |
| jamesh | All your pending branches on LP seemed to be related to the resource handling rather than sorting code, so should be unaffected by these changes | 03:19 |
| jml | cool. | 03:34 |
| lamont` | kiko_: I'm afk and just passing through... | 04:51 |
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| Chaosmagi | Do u feel like your life is stuck in a rut, just going around in circles. Do u feel Spirituality left out then all u have to do is !!!!TAKE BACK REALITY!!!! www.ellis69.webs.com | 05:10 |
| jamesh | wow. | 05:12 |
| wgrant | I do, I do. | 05:13 |
| Ursinha | holy cow | 05:21 |
| * Hobbsee grumbles | 05:26 | |
| Hobbsee | spm! | 05:26 |
| spm | Hobbsee: hows it going! | 05:26 |
| Hobbsee | spm: good, although it's surprisingly hard to get US money converted, apparently! | 05:27 |
| spm | Hobbsee: You're off to UDS I gather? | 05:28 |
| Hobbsee | spm: yup | 05:28 |
| jamesh | Hobbsee: just use an ATM at the airport | 05:43 |
| jamesh | that's what I generally do. | 05:43 |
| Hobbsee | jamesh: oh, i eventually got money :) | 05:43 |
| jamesh | if your card is on the visa or mastercard network, it shouldn't be hard to get cash | 05:43 |
| wgrant | That's what I plan to do (with a Cirrus keycard). | 05:44 |
| Hobbsee | that's true | 05:44 |
| Hobbsee | that's what I tend to do, after I get there. | 05:44 |
| * Hobbsee wonders how difficult it would be to get black hole contact addresses set. | 05:44 | |
| wgrant | You'd have to blackhole it after setting it. | 05:45 |
| wgrant | Or convince somebody that a blackhole flag for teams is a good idea. | 05:45 |
| wgrant | Which it is. | 05:45 |
| Hobbsee | wgrant: well, seeing as it's for large-person teams, getting consensus on that (or even having a poll) is difficult. | 05:46 |
| Hobbsee | I wonder...is there an easy way to shut all the feisty tasks of https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+bugs ? | 05:56 |
| spm | drop table feisty_bugs? | 05:57 |
| Hobbsee | oh, that'd be nice:) | 05:58 |
| jamesh | web services API? | 05:59 |
| Hobbsee | will that work on that entire list of bugs, without having to type them all in? | 06:00 |
| wgrant | Probably. | 06:02 |
| spm | Hobbsee: I wish :-) It's possible some magic could be done? But suggest more likely not. Raise a question? | 06:02 |
| wgrant | I think searchTasks or similar should be exposed for all bug targets. | 06:02 |
| Hobbsee | spm: mmm...might be an idea. | 06:02 |
| * wgrant plays around with launchpadlib. | 06:02 | |
| Hobbsee | wgrant: thanks | 06:02 |
| jamesh | Hobbsee: ideally you'd be able to find all the required bugs with the API | 06:02 |
| jamesh | if you can't, report a bug :) | 06:03 |
| wgrant | jamesh: Are you coming to UDS? | 06:04 |
| jamesh | yeah | 06:04 |
| * wgrant gives Launchpad a few good thwackings. | 06:17 | |
| wgrant | The webservice strongly dislikes behaving properly. | 06:18 |
| wgrant | AFAICT, I'm trying to search for tasks properly. IDistroSeries only recently became exposed, and it doesn't work too well. | 06:19 |
| wgrant | searchTasks() on a current or supported distoseries OOPSes. | 06:19 |
| wgrant | searchTasks() on a development or obsolete distroseries returns 0 tasks, even when that's not right. | 06:19 |
| wgrant | Thankyou Launchpad. | 06:19 |
| jamesh | if you make enough OOPSes, someone should notice :) | 06:19 |
| Hobbsee | jamesh: well, he's trying for a non-supported release, ideally | 06:19 |
| * wgrant turns on debugging and gets an OOPS id. | 06:23 | |
| wgrant | jamesh: Can you look at OOPS-1068S27 in a couple of minutes and tell me if I'm obviously doing something wrong and LP isn't validating properly, or if LP might just be genuinely broken? | 06:24 |
| ubottu | https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/1068S27 | 06:24 |
| wgrant | Oh. It's the getSeries that's failing. | 06:25 |
| wgrant | Hmmm. | 06:25 |
| * wgrant thwacks Launchpad for failing at security. | 06:47 | |
| wgrant | Failing at security on security vulnerabilities, to make it even better. | 06:47 |
| jamesh | wgrant: that OOPS report is a NotFoundError for getSeries("8.1") | 06:50 |
| Hobbsee | should that be 8.10? | 06:52 |
| jamesh | Hobbsee: yes. So either wgrant passed in a bad version number, or Launchpad handed him a bad number that he then passed back to LP | 06:52 |
| wgrant | Thankyou Optus. | 06:58 |
| wgrant | Is it just me, or is there significant latency in the replication on staging? | 07:00 |
| wgrant | jamesh: I just saw your comment on that OOPS report on irclogs.u.c... I'm fairly sure that I asked for 8.10, so maybe it's trimming things somewhere. | 07:04 |
| * wgrant watches the HTTP requests more closely this itme. | 07:04 | |
| jamesh | wgrant: I wonder if a float is being used somewhere rather than a string? | 07:06 |
| wgrant | jamesh: Right, maybe the webservice code is trying to parse it as a float first... I definitely sent 8.10 over the wire in OOPS-1068S70, and I'm pretty sure I did in 27 too. | 07:07 |
| ubottu | https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/1068S70 | 07:07 |
| wgrant | win 39 | 07:08 |
| wgrant | Damn. | 07:08 |
| jamesh | wgrant: you can probably pass in distro codenames to getSeries(), btw. | 07:08 |
| * Hobbsee hands wgrant a \ | 07:08 | |
| Hobbsee | and a / | 07:08 |
| wgrant | jamesh: Oh, I can, yes. I tried that after I saw your analysis. | 07:08 |
| wgrant | Thanks. | 07:09 |
| wgrant | ICVE needs some love :( | 07:10 |
| jamesh | wgrant: if you're sure you're using strings on the client side, perhaps file a bug report. | 07:10 |
| wgrant | jamesh: I plan to, once that OOPS appears and you can confirm it still says 8.1. | 07:10 |
| wgrant | And I guess it should be there now. | 07:10 |
| jamesh | wgrant: hmm. I see the query string for the request is ws.op=getSeries&name_or_version=8.10 | 07:10 |
| wgrant | Yep. | 07:10 |
| wgrant | That's what I see too. | 07:11 |
| jamesh | wgrant: in that case, I can confirm that it looks like a Launchpad problem :) | 07:11 |
| wgrant | jamesh: Excellent, thanks. I'll file it. | 07:11 |
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| * wgrant is loving the test plans being public - it means defective feature designs can be shot down within hours of their merging! | 08:20 | |
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| tkamppeter | I need help, I have subscribed a wrong person to https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/printer-driver-auto-download-service | 11:49 |
| tkamppeter | and it seems a non-undoable feature. | 11:49 |
| wgrant | tkamppeter: Only the user themselves or a LOSA can remove a subscription. | 11:52 |
| intellectronica | tkamppeter: file a question, and an admin will tend to it asap | 11:53 |
| intellectronica | tkamppeter: also, you can just contact the user, apologize, and suggest that they unsubscribe themselves. most people would be quite understanding :) | 11:54 |
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| glade88 | hello, I noticed a text overflow at a notification box: http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/8672/overflowxl1.png | 12:38 |
| fta2 | kiko_, ping | 12:39 |
| intellectronica | glade88: care to report a bug? | 12:47 |
| glade88 | intellectronica: sure, a min | 12:47 |
| glade88 | intellectronica: part of Launchpad registry, I gess? | 12:47 |
| glade88 | s/gess/guess | 12:47 |
| intellectronica | glade88: take your time. report the bug on 'launchpad' | 12:48 |
| intellectronica | no, it's not a registry bug, it's a general launchpad bug | 12:48 |
| glade88 | ah, ok. | 12:48 |
| glade88 | intellectronica: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/304795 | 12:52 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 304795 in launchpad "Text overflow from notification box" [Undecided,New] | 12:52 |
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| intellectronica | glade88: cool, thanks | 13:05 |
| glade88 | intellectronica: np | 13:05 |
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| epsy | hi, how do I check if a tag(for a revision) was correctly set? | 13:41 |
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| balor | What URL does lp:bzr-cvsps-import resolve to? | 13:55 |
| LarstiQ | balor: it resolves to the branch the bzr-cvsps-import project on launchpad has pointed it's trunk at. | 13:56 |
| LarstiQ | balor: `bzr info lp:bzr-cvsps-import` will tell you what exactly that is. | 13:56 |
| gary_poster | balor: LarstiQ is right. If you are using bzr, 'lp:' == 'bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/' | 13:56 |
| balor | LarstiQ: But what's the actual URL of the bzr repo? I think I need to expand it to get round my http_proxty. | 13:56 |
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| balor | ah | 13:57 |
| balor | I need http access to the repo. | 13:57 |
| LarstiQ | gary_poster: bzr+ssh:// depends on wether you have write access to the branch or not. | 13:57 |
| gary_poster | LarstiQ: True | 13:57 |
| LarstiQ | balor: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ebzr/bzr-cvsps-import/trunk/ | 13:57 |
| kiko | fta2, yo! | 13:57 |
| balor | LarstiQ: Thanks. | 13:58 |
| balor | I'm told that my Project is an "invalid value" when trying to import it as a CVS project to launchpad. The value I specified is "libamore". What value should I specify? | 14:10 |
| kiko | balor, there is no libamore project registered at launchpad. | 14:14 |
| kiko | balor, launchpad.net/projects/+new | 14:14 |
| balor | kiko: So I have to register the project first. Ah. | 14:14 |
| kiko | yep | 14:14 |
| gary_poster | kiko: thanks. :-) was just wondering myself. | 14:14 |
| fta2 | kiko, hi! so, about songbird, what should I do? re-push the exact same thing? | 14:15 |
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| kiko | fta2, yeah, let me get hold of somebody at IS to assist. | 14:15 |
| fta2 | kiko, ok, nice. tell me when I can repush. | 14:16 |
| balor | kiko: Is that the "Register a Branch" or am I looking to register a project? | 14:17 |
| kiko | balor, launchpad.net/projects/+new | 14:17 |
| kiko | I meant it :) | 14:17 |
| balor | kiko: Sorry....bad day :( | 14:17 |
| kiko | nah, that's fine :) | 14:18 |
| kiko | fta2, you can repush. let me and lamont know when it is hung | 14:21 |
| lamont | fta2: my precognition skills are a bit rusty, and all that... :)) | 14:21 |
| balor | Why might my import be "Pending Review"? particularly when I get an email stating "Your message was rejected" | 14:24 |
| kiko | balor, that message is bogus and I am still struggling to fix it | 14:24 |
| kiko | balor, imports are reviewed for sanity -- what's the URL for it? | 14:24 |
| balor | kiko: np. | 14:24 |
| balor | kiko: https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/libamore/trunk | 14:25 |
| fta2 | kiko, lamont: pushing.. | 14:25 |
| kiko | in fact, I've fixed that bogus message right now using a HUGE hammer | 14:25 |
| fta2 | 50% | 14:26 |
| glade88 | is there a way to list just wishlist bugs related to a specific user (or me) ? | 14:26 |
| kiko | glade88, yes, bugs.l.n/~user/ and advanced search | 14:26 |
| glade88 | kiko: thanks | 14:28 |
| kiko | sure | 14:28 |
| kiko | balor, so, libamore is the name of that project, and it contains a bunch of stuff -- not just libamore proper, right? | 14:28 |
| balor | kiko: It contains the library and a GUI etc.... | 14:28 |
| balor | kiko: We just need a bzr repo to kickstart development again. | 14:29 |
| kiko | cool | 14:29 |
| kiko | balor, I'm only slightly curious as to whether this would be better modeled as a project group with other pieces in it | 14:30 |
| kiko | but since it's one tree, bombs away | 14:30 |
| balor | kiko: For the moment we just want to get stuff done. We're taking it in a new direction. | 14:30 |
| kiko | yeah | 14:30 |
| kiko | IKWYM | 14:31 |
| fta2 | kiko, lamont: done. waiting for the accept/reject now | 14:31 |
| balor | kiko: So am I ready for bzr branch on https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/libamore/trunk now? | 14:32 |
| kiko | balor, well, the import's running shortly. when it runs and if it succeeds (flaky CVS repos n all) you'll have a beautiful bzr branch | 14:32 |
| balor | kiko: thanks | 14:33 |
| fta2 | kiko, rejected, as i expected :( | 14:36 |
| fta2 | Rejected: | 14:36 |
| fta2 | The source songbird - 1.0.0-0ubuntu1~fta1 is already accepted in ubuntu/jaunty and you cannot upload the same version within the same distribution. You have to modify the source version and re-upload. | 14:36 |
| kiko | fta2, but why did you upload it again? just refer to it, no? | 14:39 |
| fta2 | refer to it? | 14:39 |
| kiko | I wish I knew more about how to undelete stuff | 14:39 |
| fta2 | Rejected: | 14:39 |
| fta2 | Unable to find songbird_1.0.0.orig.tar.gz in upload or distribution. | 14:39 |
| fta2 | Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification. | 14:39 |
| kiko | bigjools, read up -- does fta2 really need to bump version just to get a deleted package to rebuild? | 14:39 |
| kiko | hmmm | 14:39 |
| bigjools | yes | 14:39 |
| kiko | bigjools, cancha undelete it? | 14:40 |
| bigjools | not w/o DB surgery | 14:40 |
| kiko | I don't quite understand why cprov deleted it to be honest | 14:40 |
| kiko | instead of marking the builds as failed | 14:40 |
| bigjools | I don't know either | 14:40 |
| fta2 | kiko, that's why i asked if i should re-up the exact same thing, i expected the reject | 14:40 |
| bigjools | whoa, the .orig is missing? | 14:41 |
| fta2 | apparently | 14:41 |
| bigjools | he's really cleaned it out then! | 14:41 |
| bigjools | how bizarre | 14:41 |
| kiko | fta2, just bump version, I'll ask cprov when he's back from the airport | 14:42 |
| tkamppeter | wgrant, intellectronica, thank you, I have sent a PM to this user via LP. Let's see what happens. | 14:42 |
| fta2 | kiko, the src version ? too bad for the shiny 1.0.0 :( | 14:42 |
| kiko | 1.0.0revenge | 14:43 |
| kiko | well.. I don't have any smart suggestions | 14:43 |
| kiko | my brain is only half operational this week | 14:43 |
| bigjools | fta2: bump to 1.0.0+something | 14:45 |
| fta2 | yeah, i know :( | 14:46 |
| kiko | I don't quite understand why this happened though | 14:51 |
| kiko | it /looks/ like cprov overcooked it | 14:51 |
| kiko | but he rarely does that so.. not sure | 14:51 |
| fta2 | too bad my bug 263301 has been rejected | 14:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 263301 in soyuz "Can't re-upload a package with a different src tarball after deletion in PPA" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/263301 | 14:57 |
| bigjools | fta2: that is a FAQ, really | 14:58 |
| bigjools | considering how easy it is to just bump versions, I don't know why everyone complains | 14:58 |
| kiko | bigjools, well, it's kinda nasty to have to do it when the source hasn't actually changed. | 15:02 |
| bigjools | kiko: if the source hasn't changed then you don't need to re-upload | 15:02 |
| kiko | bigjools, well, in fta2's case he does :) | 15:02 |
| fta2 | it's rejected | 15:02 |
| fta2 | see above | 15:03 |
| bigjools | kiko: well if it's deleted, all bets are off :) | 15:03 |
| fta2 | the delete is not a real delete then | 15:03 |
| kiko | bigjools, that's what I don't understand. the file's still in the librarian, we still know about the publication, etc. | 15:03 |
| kiko | that's also true | 15:03 |
| bigjools | kiko: I guess we could add an undelete | 15:04 |
| bigjools | if nothing was uploaded since | 15:04 |
| kiko | yeah, let's see how much it comes up. | 15:04 |
| bigjools | it's not a real deletion because it needs to remember what you already uploaded | 15:04 |
| bigjools | and published | 15:04 |
| bigjools | apt clients tend to get very confused if they try and download the same version of something that has a different md5 | 15:05 |
| fta2 | not when no bin were produced | 15:13 |
| fta2 | btw, re-upped | 15:13 |
| bigjools | fta2: not so, you're forgetting the source | 15:15 |
| fta2 | bigjools, what i mean it that re-up the same or another tarball with the same version should not hurt when no debs have been produced | 15:16 |
| fta2 | -it+is | 15:16 |
| bigjools | fta2: the source has been published in the repo | 15:17 |
| bigjools | it's too late at that point | 15:17 |
| fta2 | i consider my PPA as highly experimental. I take great care of what i push there but yet, it's not bullet proof and users know the risks. at least they should. | 15:19 |
| bigjools | fta2: well it's nothing to do with the quality of the code and everything to do with the packaging toolchain | 15:20 |
| bigjools | fta2: the only way around this is to know if a source/binary has been downloaded or not, but we're a way off implementing that yet | 15:21 |
| fta2 | kiko, lamont: same issue as yesterday. all 9 builds stuck at the same place. | 15:21 |
| lamont | yay! | 15:21 |
| lamont | consistency ftw | 15:21 |
| fta2 | https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds/iridium | 15:21 |
| kiko | thanks fta2 | 15:21 |
| kiko | now let's see what lamont can find for us :) | 15:22 |
| fta2 | here are my logs (jaunty/i386): http://paste.ubuntu.com/79849/ | 15:22 |
| lamont | sigh. | 15:22 |
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| * lamont is reminded that not being the UOSA means that he forgets things | 15:23 | |
| lamont | like the fact that the ppa buildds are so completely locked down as to be totally undebuggable | 15:24 |
| lamont | and I don't know that we needed to upload _all_ of them when we expected them to hang... | 15:28 |
| * lamont will try to reproduce the issue locally | 15:28 | |
| kiko | lamont, it appears to work fine for fta2 locally | 15:30 |
| kiko | lamont, if you have a PPA image you can build inside it will probably enlighten | 15:31 |
| lamont | locally with sbuild, or locally outside sbuild? | 15:32 |
| kiko | fta2? | 15:35 |
| kiko | lamont, got anywhere? | 15:53 |
| fta2 | kiko, ? (sorry, i was busy) | 15:54 |
| fta2 | lamont, locally outside sbuild | 15:56 |
| MTecknology | How do I link a bug to another bug tracker? | 15:57 |
| kiko | MTecknology, I'll explain. which bug? | 15:57 |
| MTecknology | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/blueproximity/+bug/286820 | 15:57 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 286820 in blueproximity "blueproximity can be bypassed to not force a lock" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 15:57 |
| MTecknology | kiko: ? | 16:02 |
| kiko | MTecknology, what's the remote bug? it sounds like blueproximity upstream uses launchpad? | 16:02 |
| MTecknology | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2383237&group_id=203022&atid=983922 | 16:03 |
| ubottu | Sourceforge bug 2383237 "blueproximity can be bypassed to not force a lock" [Pri: 5,Open] | 16:03 |
| kiko | that's weird. | 16:04 |
| MTecknology | ? | 16:04 |
| kiko | MTecknology, does blueproximity use SF or Launchpad? | 16:04 |
| MTecknology | I'm not really sure - I think they use SF | 16:04 |
| kiko | https://edge.launchpad.net/blueproximity | 16:05 |
| kiko | MTecknology, so in this specific case it's weird because they seem to use both. we normally only link to remote bugs if the project doesn't use LP officially | 16:06 |
| kiko | MTecknology, maybe the easiest thing is to just add the URL in a comment and figure it out later. | 16:06 |
| MTecknology | ok | 16:06 |
| kiko | MTecknology, if you want to help further you can contact the project lead and ask him what the story is | 16:06 |
| kiko | the Launchpad project page says it uses LP | 16:06 |
| kiko | but the project homepage says it uses SF | 16:06 |
| kiko | which is correct? | 16:07 |
| MTecknology | How do I do it? Could you walk me through linking process so I know how? | 16:07 |
| MTecknology | nvm - I found it | 16:07 |
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| kiko-fud | cool | 16:07 |
| MTecknology | kiko-fud: thanks | 16:08 |
| kiko-fud | sure thing | 16:09 |
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| fta2 | lamont, kiko: any progress with songbird? | 16:48 |
| lamont | fta2: the level of ppa-buildd hackery it wants really calls for infinity, not me. | 16:50 |
| === kiko-fud is now known as kiko | ||
| fta2 | lamont, kiko: ok, please keep me posted. If you need to kill my stuff, please don't delete everything | 17:42 |
| kiko | gar | 17:43 |
| kiko | lamont, when do we have infinity around for this? | 17:43 |
| kiko | lamont, or elmo? | 17:43 |
| lamont | elmo is in transit -> UDS | 17:46 |
| lamont | /usr/bin/ld: final link failed: Memory exhausted | 17:48 |
| lamont | well, that's a different (albeit maybe related?) error | 17:48 |
| * lamont looks to see how much memory that vm instance has | 17:48 | |
| lamont | meh. 640M should be enough for anyone, right? | 17:49 |
| lamont | and 400MB of swap... | 17:49 |
| * lamont checks on a ppa config | 17:50 | |
| fta2 | to link chromium (the browser), ldd takes nearly 1GB | 17:56 |
| fta2 | ld | 17:57 |
| kiko | lamont, could that be? | 17:59 |
| fta2 | i even had to limit to -j 1 as by default, it was sucking 4G on my quadcore. | 17:59 |
| fta2 | brb | 18:00 |
| lamont | ppas have 1549MB of ram, and (looks like at first blush without doing anything invasive) 2GB of swap. | 18:12 |
| lamont | and no, I don't know where that RAM size number comes from | 18:12 |
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| infinity | kiko, fta: I hear there are some problems with PPA and songbird? | 18:36 |
| infinity | kiko, fta: Except that when I go to look, all I see are a bunch of identical failures at the ~3 hour mark, which looks like it's not PPA's fault... | 18:37 |
| pygi | how does one appoint driver for a project? | 19:04 |
| pygi | totally un-intuitive :/ | 19:04 |
| gary_poster | pygi from project home page, click "change details" | 19:10 |
| gary_poster | pypi: then click on the "People" sub-sub tab | 19:10 |
| pygi | gary_poster, ah, sub-tabs | 19:10 |
| pygi | see?! Tabs are not intuitive :P | 19:11 |
| gary_poster | :-) | 19:11 |
| pygi | you can see that with the tabs-frenzy joke at gnome :P | 19:11 |
| pygi | thanks gary_poster :) | 19:12 |
| mpt | They're just not drawn in an obvious style at the moment | 19:12 |
| gary_poster | pygi: :-) glad I could help | 19:12 |
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| kiko_ | the appservers are acting up, mthaddon and flacoste looking into it. | 19:21 |
| MTecknology | 13:22 < xteejx> MTecknology: Tell me about it! Is there any way to refile his comments under another bug for him (Socrates) and get rid of them in that report? | 19:24 |
| MTecknology | He asked that in reference to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/231455 | 19:24 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Ubuntu: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/231455/+text) | 19:24 |
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| MTecknology | kiko: is there any way to do that for him? | 19:25 |
| kiko | nope. | 19:26 |
| MTecknology | About the only thing he could do is mark the bug invalid and make a clean one which isn | 19:26 |
| MTecknology | 't worth it? | 19:26 |
| MTecknology | kiko: is that about right? | 19:27 |
| kiko | yeah, pretty much | 19:30 |
| MTecknology | kiko: so - now that I know that much, do I get a job at canonical? :D | 19:31 |
| MTecknology | :P | 19:31 |
| MTecknology | How hard is it to scare a job like that anyway? | 19:31 |
| kiko | you can apply! there are a bunch of job postings up at canonical.com. :) | 19:32 |
| MTecknology | Are they pretty much jobs where you can work from anywhere in the world? | 19:33 |
| MTecknology | nope | 19:35 |
| MTecknology | "Launchpad Bugs Application Engineer" Looks nice. I'll probably have to apply for it out after I get out of college | 19:37 |
| MTecknology | I assume that will still be open | 19:37 |
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| MTecknology | kiko: What I really want is to be a systems administrator somewhere around here. I don't imagine that's likely. | 19:46 |
| MTecknology | kiko: If it's ok to ask, what kind of salary does canonical offer? | 19:49 |
| MTecknology | I imagine it varies a lot, I'm just curious. | 19:50 |
| pygi | MTecknology, dont you know contracts say that you're not allowed to say that? :p | 19:52 |
| MTecknology | pygi: nope, I didn't | 19:52 |
| pygi | now you know :) | 19:52 |
| MTecknology | yup | 19:52 |
| MTecknology | brb | 19:53 |
| MTecknology | pygi: Are the jobs pretty competitive or is canonical expanding plenty fast? | 20:04 |
| pygi | MTecknology, I'm not working at Canonical | 20:05 |
| MTecknology | oh - I suppose I'd know that if I saw your hostmask :P | 20:05 |
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| MTecknology | What's with launchpad.com | 21:21 |
| kiko | spam | 21:22 |
| MTecknology | Somebody else registered it? | 21:24 |
| kiko | it was already owned by some loser before | 21:25 |
| kiko | I guess they just messed up the config | 21:26 |
| kiko | dunno | 21:26 |
| fta | lamont, what did you do to unblock the builders ? | 21:34 |
| fta | kiko, ^^ do you know ? | 21:34 |
| kiko | did they unblock? :) | 21:34 |
| lamont | fta: ?? | 21:34 |
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| * lamont did nothing wrt songbird | 21:35 | |
| fta | yes, but something else happened. i'm investigating the failure | 21:35 |
| fta | (that i didn't see locally) | 21:35 |
| kiko | file not found: /build/buildd/songbird-1.0.0+0/build-tree/songbird/app/content/bindings/content/songbird/bindings//build/buildd/songbird-1.0.0+0/build-tree/songbird/app/content/bindings/browser/tabBrowserCompat.xml at /build/buildd/songbird-1.0.0+0/build-tree/songbird/dependencies/linux-i686/mozilla/release/scripts/make-jars.pl line 430, <STDIN> line 76. | 21:35 |
| fta | yes yes... digging | 21:36 |
| MTecknology | I'm getting 0 (Error ID: OOPS-1068EA222) | 21:36 |
| kiko | maybe they weren't hanging after all? | 21:36 |
| lamont | given the size, I expect that "hang" == "swaping heavily" | 21:36 |
| lamont | after all, they _only_ have 1.5GB of RAM | 21:36 |
| fta | kiko, it's supposed to build in less than 1h, not in 3h | 21:36 |
| kiko | fta, inside a VM with limited memory? dunno | 21:37 |
| fta | and logs started to flow during the build after ~2h of no activity | 21:37 |
| fta | looks like a timeout to me | 21:38 |
| kiko | fta, there are no timeouts in the buildds. | 21:50 |
| fta | no watchdog of any kind? killing zombies or dead locked processes? i think there is. I remember a jemalloc problem with xul1.9.1 that hold the builders for 4h before the pkg is killed. | 21:54 |
| kiko | not that I know of. | 21:54 |
| exarkun | I'm looking for the bugs page for the kernel package in Hardy | 22:03 |
| exarkun | Is it this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/linux-meta | 22:10 |
| stdin | exarkun: more likely https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/linux | 22:13 |
| drguildo | bug reporting seems to be broken | 22:14 |
| beuno | drguildo, how so? | 22:15 |
| drguildo | i'm getting timeout errors | 22:15 |
| drguildo | Error ID: OOPS-1068B4511 | 22:15 |
| ubottu | https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/1068B4511 | 22:15 |
| beuno | drguildo, known issue being worked on | 22:16 |
| drguildo | beuno: seems to be working now. thanks. | 22:27 |
| fta | kiko, found the bug | 22:58 |
| kiko | fta! | 22:59 |
| kiko | you rock duder | 22:59 |
| fta | kiko, it's an upstream bug. it's caused by the only change i've made 1.0.0 -> 1.0.0+0 in the tarball name, hence in the path | 22:59 |
| kiko | damn | 23:00 |
| fta | the "+" is used in a perl regexp | 23:00 |
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| kiko | fta, does that mean that the 1.0.0 build actually would have worked if we hadn't killed it? | 23:00 |
| fta | probably | 23:00 |
| fta | i still don't understand why there a 2h window at the beginning where nothing happened (in the cdbs tarball parsing) | 23:01 |
| fta | +'s | 23:01 |
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| kiko | same here but only infinity or elmo might be able to tell us.. | 23:06 |
| kiko | that's kinda why I suggested 1.0.0revenge :) | 23:08 |
| fta | ok, i just patched it | 23:11 |
| wgrant | I feel like launchpad-users. | 23:25 |
| wgrant | mpt: Wasn't the point of the new bad-looking subtabs to make them more obviously tabbish? | 23:30 |
| kiko | and they actually do work | 23:33 |
| wgrant | Didn't mpt see say they weren't obvious? | 23:33 |
| wgrant | s/see // | 23:33 |
| kiko | he tried to justify the general problem of not being able to navigate to and under +edit | 23:34 |
| wgrant | Can we get a 'THIS IS NOT FOR ORDERING CDS OR ORDERING LAUNCHPADS' in big red bold text on top of +contactuser? | 23:34 |
| wgrant | Somebody wants me to send them a Launchpad :( | 23:34 |
| kiko | wgrant, same here. if you want consolation we're going to change the feature. | 23:34 |
| wgrant | I can't see any sane way to restrict it. | 23:35 |
| Nafallo | send them a launchpad? BWAHAHA | 23:35 |
| kiko | Nafallo, that's like sending him raw plutonium | 23:36 |
| kiko | wgrant, follow the l-u thread | 23:37 |
| wgrant | kiko: I've just finished that. | 23:37 |
| Nafallo | kiko: I was actually thinking about the weight of all those servers :-P | 23:37 |
| wgrant | That doesn't seem to cover users, just teams. | 23:37 |
| wgrant | Nafallo: Right, plutonium isn | 23:37 |
| wgrant | ... isn't light :P | 23:37 |
| Nafallo | wgrant: plutonium is a PPA ;-) | 23:37 |
| kiko | wgrant, you're getting email because of a team in that case. it's a frenchman, right? | 23:37 |
| Nafallo | well. if it had actually worked :-P | 23:38 |
| Nafallo | kiko: SEB! :-D | 23:38 |
| kiko | lol | 23:38 |
| wgrant | kiko: Ah, yes, it doesn't actually say that *anywhere*. | 23:38 |
| kiko | wgrant, read my l-u email god dammit :) | 23:38 |
| mpt | wgrant, I think it was to make them more visible | 23:39 |
| mpt | which is different from making them more tabbish | 23:39 |
| mpt | bbiab | 23:39 |
| wgrant | kiko: Ah, I didn't look at those bug.s | 23:41 |
| wgrant | Nor can I type. | 23:41 |
| fta | kiko, https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=building | 23:51 |
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| mpt | wgrant, I think it would be entirely possible to achieve both | 23:58 |
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