[14:30] <thorwil> hi!
[14:34] <robsta> hi thorwil
[14:38] <thorwil> robsta: hi! i'd like to have the template version-controlled while building it up
[14:39] <thorwil> robsta: what do i have to do to get an account?
[14:39] <robsta> thorwil: what kind of account?
[14:40] <robsta> gnome svn?
[14:40] <thorwil> yes, so i can check in
[14:40] <robsta> thorwil: i'd be fine if it was in launchpad or somewhere else too
[14:41] <thorwil> robsta: easiest for me. i thought it might be more comfortable for you :)
[14:42] <robsta> thorwil: if only bzr-playground.gnome.org was back on, it's under canonical's administration
[14:44] <thorwil> robsta: whats "Rapid development            no (WARNING: this breaks theme switching)" about?
[14:45] <robsta> thorwil: i'm just about to change that
[14:46] <robsta> thorwil: to ensure full gtk compatibility the theme's css is translated into gtkrc and fed back to gtk
[14:46] <robsta> so all gtk-internal colors and fallbacks are set up correctly
[14:48] <robsta> the problem is that if you just feed the gtkrc back from the engine, the settings stick when you switch themes, and you get broken visual representation
[14:48] <thorwil> sounds lovely
[14:49] <robsta> so the css engine ships a small command-line tool `css2gtkrc' that translates theme.css to gtkrc
[14:49] <robsta> so you can "include" it from the theme's boilerplate gtkrc
[14:50] <robsta> like, include "theme.rc"
[14:50] <robsta> problem is, while working on the theme you don't want to run the tool on each iteration
[14:51] <robsta> (because it costs time)
[14:51] <robsta> so you will just be able to to run "GCE_PREVIEW=1 ./twf"
[14:52] <robsta> when the environment variable is set, the translated gtkrc is fed back automatically
[14:52] <robsta> that's no problem inside TheWidgetFactory, because you just close it to get rid of messy settings
[14:53] <robsta> and your desktop theme state stays intact
[14:53] <robsta> ok?
[14:54] <thorwil> i'm not sure i quite get it, but don't think i need to, now :)
[14:55] <robsta> basically, the environment variable puts the theme engine in preview state
[14:55] <thorwil> i remember i had some fun with messy theme switching with ubuntu community themes. wonder why there's no reliable reset mechanism
[16:07]  * _MMA_ is saddened by the discovery that he *cannot* use all the outputs on his new SLI setup to drive 3 monitors. :( It either acts as a single card (with 2 outputs) or 2 cards with 4 outputs.
[16:09] <_MMA_> Well, I can't use them as I thought I could.
[18:08] <kwwii> _MMA_: guess you just need another monitor :-)
[18:08] <kwwii> about time for me to head out to the motörhead concert...be back much later
[18:08] <_MMA_> Ace of Spades!!
[18:08] <_MMA_> \m/