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=== ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Current meeting: QA Team Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 04 Dec 12:00: Ubuntu Mobile Team | 04 Dec 13:00: Desktop Team | 04 Dec 14:00: Ubuntu Java | 15 Dec 19:00: LoCo Council
* heno waves17:00
* schwuk waves also17:00
ogasawarahi guys17:00
arahello!17:00
schwukhi ogasawara. ara17:00
bdmurrayhi schwuk ogasawara ara17:00
arahi schwuk ogasawara bdmurray17:01
ara:)17:01
henothis won't scale :)17:01
bdmurray;-)17:01
henoso let's start!17:01
heno#startmeeting17:01
MootBotMeeting started at 11:01. The chair is heno.17:01
MootBotCommands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]17:01
henoagenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings17:01
henosbeattie: here?17:02
sbeattieyep17:02
henopedro has started his trip to FOSSCamp AFAIK17:02
heno[TOPIC] Finalising the UDS schedule - heno17:03
MootBotNew Topic:  Finalising the UDS schedule - heno17:03
henohttp://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-jaunty/qa/17:03
MootBotLINK received:  http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-jaunty/qa/17:03
henoFrom my perspective it's pretty much settled - please have a look and comment17:03
henoalso please add yourself as [required] participants as appropriate17:04
arastupid comment: what do the different colours mean?17:04
bdmurrayyellow are plenarys17:04
henoblue is spec, yellow is plenery, green is a discussion17:05
bdmurraypeachpuff is roundtables17:05
arathanks :)17:05
bdmurrayI think the shade of blue changes depending on your relationship to the spec too17:05
henonot quite sure on the difference between peachpuff and green sessions actually17:06
intellectronicamay i suggest doing the malone/qa team meeting next week at UDS?17:08
bdmurrayIncidentally, the QA bugs session at 16:15 on Thursday may be an opportunity for us to share our bugs with Launchpad so have your bugs handy.17:08
intellectronicai won't be there, but i can call in. gmb is happy to organise the meeting17:08
intellectronicabdmurray: high 517:09
henointellectronica: should we schedule a meeting separately from the QA bugs session?17:09
henowe do have a free slot17:09
henoand we can still shuffle the order around a bit17:09
intellectronicaheno: no, that should be enough. it may be a bit too late for me to call in, but as i said, graham will be there17:09
henowe can move it to before lunch if that works for gmb17:10
intellectronicathat would be great. i'll ask gmb to coordinate that17:11
bdmurrayheno: I just swapped them it seems to work for gmb17:11
henook, great17:12
henoany other comments on the schedule?17:12
henowe should freeze the time slots soonish so it can be announced to participants17:13
araheno: it works well for me17:14
heno(I guess there is a distro-wide announcement planned) <- jcastro?17:14
henomoving on ...17:15
heno[TOPIC] Jaunty checkbox package (It's still the old hwtest) - heno17:15
MootBotNew Topic:  Jaunty checkbox package (It's still the old hwtest) - heno17:15
henoschwuk: can you find a sponsor for this?17:15
aracr3 just told me that there were still some issues with upgrading17:16
henoshould be trivial now that we are not frozen17:16
cr3heno: should I be the sponsor?17:16
cr3oh wait! motu sponsor, I would like to propose mathiaz17:17
henocr3: you don't have Ubuntu main upload rights, do you? ;)17:17
cr3the packaging of checkbox is non-trivial and he's already familiar with it17:17
henomathiaz> sounds good17:17
cr3heno: I'll inform him right away17:18
henook, thanks17:18
henoshould checkbox be improved in any way to make packaging easier?17:19
heno(why is it non-trivial?)17:19
cr3heno: it's non-trivial so that preseed variables can be interpolated in the configuration file easily17:19
cr3heno: it's a compromise, either make packaging easy and updating the configuration painful. or, making packaging complicated and updating the configurationfile easy. mathiaz would be in best position to determine if improvements are possible or necessary even17:20
henoI didn't think the [d-i] preseed part lived in checkbox17:20
henoanyway, let's try to get it uploaded during UDS17:21
cr3it's not installer related, it's just normal package preseeding17:21
henooic, ok17:21
cr3heno: mathiaz responded "no problem", so we'll sit down during uds to get it done17:22
henoalso, on UDS preparations: feel free to add information to the stub specs altready before the discussions, esp, summaries, use cases, etc17:22
schwukcr3: I'd like to be involved in that17:22
henothe design part is often best left for afterwards17:23
cr3ara: if you would like particular bugs fixed in checkbox before uploading to jaunty, please let me know. I've been plowing through bugs this week17:23
aracr3: ok, I will have a look to the list and let you know17:23
henowe should try to get the specs completed before the holiday17:23
henothat way we can get straight to work in January17:23
henothat's it from me - any other business?17:24
cr3schwuk: I know you've expressed interest in breaking up the glade file to checkbox so that each test could potentially provide their own user interface, we should probably sit down together during uds so that we can potentially annoy seb about it :)17:25
bdmurrayIf you have something to share / demo the roundtables would be appropriate.17:26
schwukcr3: Absolutely. It's sort of covered in the test definition spec, but I suspect that particular conversation will overspill.17:27
cr3bdmurray: thanks for the offer, I'll take you up on that17:27
bdmurraycr3: great!  How much time would you need?17:28
cr3schwuk: one of the reasons I provide a unified interface to tests is to make the test definition spec as short and simple as possible. this is a conversation for uds17:28
cr3bdmurray: roundtables seem to be 45 minutes, I think that would be great. less than that and I wouldn't cover enough, more than that and people will fall asleep :)17:29
henocr3: a how to add tests to checkbox tutorial would be great17:30
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henothere probably needsto be some time at each round table for short UDS-related updates too17:30
bdmurraycr3: okay, I think we could spare that much time17:30
henoso a bit less than 45 probably17:31
cr3heno: exactly, I had a tutorial in mind too17:31
bdmurrayheno: true17:31
* heno stops schedule bikesheading17:31
henolet's wrap it up - anything else?17:32
henosafe travels everyone!17:32
heno#endmeeting17:32
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heno(and try to avoid the UDS-flu)17:33
araok! bye!17:34
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