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haggis-AAO-umpcadded syndemon to /etc/rc.local00:06
haggis-AAO-umpc:)00:06
haggis-AAO-umpcIf this is an issue for you, the touchpad can be configured without enabling SHMConfig by placing the desired options in a HAL fdi file and rebooting.  thats handy for u Alastair 00:13
hagisbasheruk                                                                                                                                                                                  .00:17
hagisbasheruk hi merriam ::)00:21
hagisbasheruk well did it work Alastair ?00:22
hagisbasherukgggggggeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttttting laggggggg00:22
hagisbasherukbrb00:23
hagisbasherukback , lag stoped00:23
Alastairnah00:30
Alastairnothing happened :(00:31
Alastairhow can i check if the synaptics driver is even loaded ?00:31
hagisbasheruklsmod00:31
Alastairwell, either i'm blind or i can't see anything remote connected to it xD00:33
Alastairit seems the driver isn't loaded :s00:33
hagisbasherukmodprobe it00:34
hagisbasherukadd it to /etc/modules00:35
Alastairmodprobe what... synaptics doesn't work00:35
hagisbasherukohh it doesn't 00:36
hagisbasherukwhat device do u have again00:39
AlastairM912M00:39
hagisbasherukwhat does xinput list give you in erminal ?00:42
hagisbasheruk+t00:42
hagisbasheruki have solution for your touchscreen Alastair https://answers.launchpad.net/netbook-remix/+question/4478100:49
Alastairthis is my xinput list00:50
hagisbasherukohh lol00:50
hagisbasheruksend again00:50
Alastairlol00:50
Alastairthere's info on my touchpad too on that site xD00:50
hagisbasherukdriver defenetly not loaded00:52
hagisbasherukI've just got the touchpad working on my M912M. The solution is simply to pass the option "i8042.noloop" to the kernel when booting. (Edit the root=vmlinuz line in the grub menu to add it). LOL00:54
Alastairi'll try this now00:55
Alastairi just write this at the end of the line or what ?00:57
hagisbasherukyup00:57
AlastairLOL00:59
Alastairit's alive00:59
Alastairomg, thank you so much :D00:59
hagisbasheruk:)00:59
hagisbasheruk#---------------------------------------------- taken from menu.lst file00:59
hagisbasheruktitle Ubuntu 8.04.1, Hardy Heron00:59
hagisbasherukroot (hd0,5)00:59
hagisbasherukkernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-21-generic root=UUID=c09ba635-5bf4-4eb1-be04-7ae8e61dc758 ro quiet vga=773 splash -- i8042.noloop00:59
hagisbasherukinitrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-21-generic00:59
hagisbasherukquiet00:59
hagisbasheruk#----------------------------------------------- taken from xorg.conf file00:59
hagisbasherukSection "InputDevice"00:59
hagisbasheruk        Identifier "Configured Mouse"00:59
hagisbasheruk        Driver "mouse"00:59
hagisbasheruk        Option "CorePointer"00:59
hagisbasheruk        Option "/dev/input/mice"00:59
hagisbasheruk        Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"00:59
hagisbasheruk        Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"00:59
hagisbasheruk        Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"00:59
hagisbasherukEndSection01:00
hagisbasherukfrom that page01:00
Alastairok...so now only the touchscreen issue is left on the table01:00
hagisbasherukbrb got to change bedding 01:00
hagisbasherukfix that from new driver given01:01
hagisbasherukon link01:01
Alastairthat driver doesn't work with intrepid01:02
hagisbasherukforgetthat ill change bedding in the morning , cant be bothered getting up now :)01:02
Alastairnvm... the touchpad is enough for now :D01:02
hagisbasherukhttp://www.penmount.com.tw/Download/Driver/PenMount/gpm-1.20.1-penmount.tar  build your own !!01:06
hagisbasheruk:)01:06
hagisbasherukmake01:07
hagisbasheruksudo make install :)01:07
hagisbasherukthe modprobe it01:07
hagisbasherukthenP01:07
hagisbasherukbut that means you'll need to build it for every new kernel update though01:08
Alastairthat doesn't work either xD the same error as the other driver01:08
Alastairi'll just have to wait 'till they add support in the calibration tool, or for penmount's driver01:09
Alastairmoreover it is working at least partially... for the rest i'll use the pad :D01:10
hagisbasheruk:)01:10
Alastairthank you for finding that link xD01:10
hagisbasheruknp 01:10
hagisbasherukhad my googling head on tonight :)01:11
Alastairi searched google for hours, but never imagined the solution will be in the netbook-remix entry on launchpad...01:11
hagisbasheruki just googled gigabyte m912m touchpad :)01:13
Alastairlol01:14
Alastairi tried many combinations, and every one of them involved ubuntu xD01:14
hagisbasherukand was the 4th entry01:14
Alastairsometimes the simplest solution is right infront of your eyes but you can't see it ^^01:15
Alastairbtw.01:15
Alastairis this permanent or will i have to enter it every time ?01:15
hagisbasherukthat is what made me click .....01:15
hagisbasherukI've just got the touchpad working on my M912M. ... the ps/2 mouse port on the motherboard and that has know problems in linux with kernels after 2.6.10. ...01:15
hagisbasheruk:)01:15
hagisbasherukperm01:16
hagisbasherukyou did edit menu.1st ?01:16
hagisbasherukor did you just edit grub on bootup ?01:17
Alastairgrub01:18
Alastairbtw. the scrolling and tapping is working too...01:18
Alastairand much better than under windows i might add...01:18
hagisbasherukedit your /boot/menu.1st01:19
hagisbasherukthen it will be perm01:20
hagisbasherukedit your /boot/grub/menu.1st even01:20
Alastairthanks01:21
Alastairdid you notice any real improvement after tweaking the video ?01:38
hagisbasherukfaster GL01:39
Alastairhow much fps do you get on glxgears ?01:39
hagisbasheruk2 sec i'll download01:39
Alastairno need it is already installed :D01:40
Alastairjust type glxgears in terminal...01:40
hagisbasheruklol01:40
Alastairhm... i see ~300fps improvement01:40
hagisbasheruk575 frames in 5.0 seconds = 114.817 FPS01:42
hagisbasheruk577 frames in 5.0 seconds = 115.378 FPS01:42
hagisbasheruk3254 frames in 5.0 seconds = 650.771 FPS01:42
hagisbasheruk3235 frames in 5.0 seconds = 646.989 FPS01:42
hagisbasheruk3432 frames in 5.0 seconds = 686.218 FPS01:42
hagisbasheruk3117 frames in 5.0 seconds = 623.283 FPS01:42
hagisbasheruk3340 frames in 5.0 seconds = 667.988 FPS01:42
hagisbasheruk1166 frames in 5.0 seconds = 232.789 FPS01:42
hagisbasheruk520 frames in 5.0 seconds = 103.911 FPS01:42
hagisbasheruk1007 frames in 5.0 seconds = 201.195 FPS01:42
hagisbasheruk494 frames in 5.0 seconds = 98.491 FPS01:42
hagisbasheruk568 frames in 5.0 seconds = 113.442 FPS01:42
hagisbasheruk1242 frames in 5.0 seconds = 248.219 FPS01:42
hagisbasheruk459 frames in 5.0 seconds = 91.722 FPS01:42
hagisbasheruk646 frames in 5.0 seconds = 129.200 FPS01:43
hagisbasheruk3212 frames in 5.0 seconds = 642.354 FPS01:43
Alastairlol lol stop xD01:43
Alastairdefinitely works.... b4 this i got ~300fps01:43
Alastairnow it's almost double01:43
hagisbasheruk:)01:44
Alastairon my main pc i get around 13000 xD01:47
hagisbasheruklol01:48
Alastairand that was with grossly underclocked video...01:48
hagisbasheruki wonder if the umpc will get a lpia kernel at some point01:49
hagisbasherukbattery life sucks01:50
Alastairi have around 2hrs with wifi01:50
hagisbasherukme 201:50
Alastairmy battery sux tho...01:50
Alastair4500mah01:50
Alastairafaik the acer has bigger battery01:51
Alastairhave you tried the lpia image ?01:52
hagisbasheruk2200mAh01:52
Alastairtheoretically if it's x86 it should boot on a normal pc ..01:52
hagisbasherukyes on netbook remix01:52
Alastair:s01:53
Alastairmy bat has twice the capacity yet survives for the same amount of time... wtf01:53
hagisbasherukmy bios acpi or what ever it is must be better01:54
Alastairnah01:55
Alastairno matter how better it is this shouldn't be happening :s01:55
hagisbasheruk:P01:55
Alastairi guess the ssd is more economical, but even so ....01:56
hagisbasherukoh i did power saving mods to sdd01:56
hagisbasheruki have hdd version of ASPIRE ONE01:57
hagisbasherukoops01:57
hagisbasherukscript polls sd reader to see if card is present and if not it powers it down01:58
hagisbasheruki will get bigger bat after new year sometime02:00
Alastairhm...dunno...02:01
Alastairi've seen external battery packs...02:01
hagisbasherukcheep?02:01
Alastairbut they cost almost as new pc ....02:01
hagisbasheruklol , sod that02:01
hagisbasheruki found a nice way to save bookmarks with midbrowser, grab icon in adrressbar and put on top taskbar02:07
hagisbasherukthen move to desktop later02:07
Alastairi removed the midbrowser asap... i'm too addicted to the classical firefox02:08
hagisbasheruk:)02:15
hagisbasheruki guess you can always use F1102:16
hagisbasherukTo decrease boot time, activate concurrency bootup:  sudo gedit /etc/init.d/rc  and replace the line:02:16
hagisbasheruk    * CONCURRENCY=none 02:17
hagisbasherukwith02:17
hagisbasheruk    * CONCURRENCY=shell 02:17
hagisbasherukbrb going to test that now02:17
hagisbasheruknever noticed any difference , mabey on next boot02:20
Alastairomg... what the heck...02:29
Alastairdid you see the size of gta4 x_x02:29
Alastair2 dual-layer dvds ...02:29
hagisbasheruklol02:30
hagisbasherukno blue ray :)02:30
Alastairthat standart was doomed from the beginning02:30
Alastairwe want holographic disks xD02:32
hagisbasherukthere is a mic fix coming http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ef355da64ff087b6f26c4c28a14753861e83e4b02:33
hagisbasherukavailable in kernel 2.6.28-rc202:34
Alastairhm...02:35
Alastairi reckon 9.04 will be the distro for this machines...02:36
Alastairthey came out too late for intrepid devs to include support for them :/02:37
hagisbasheruksudo update-manager -d and see a surprise02:37
Alastairthe wireless link is down, i can't xD02:38
hagisbasheruk Welcome to Ubuntu 9.04 'Jaunty Jackalope' =02:38
hagisbasheruk*** THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT RELEASE ***02:38
hagisbasherukThe Ubuntu team is proud to announce Ubuntu 9.04 'Jaunty Jackalope'.02:38
Alastairyea, i know, they released the alpha some time ago...02:39
hagisbasheruki got to go for it , lets see what breaks02:39
Alastairnothing yet02:39
Alastairjust incremental updates over intrepid...wait for the beta02:39
hagisbasheruk2 l802:40
hagisbasheruki guess i can just fill in bugs for a while until everything is running great on the AAO02:43
hagisbasherukbed time , good night02:48
skotti_Hello everyone08:58
skotti_Any python-guru around?08:58
playya_skotti_, just ask your question. maybe someone mght help you.09:13
skotti_playya_: Thanks for the hint.09:29
skotti_I'm trying to start an executable from within python using os.popen( os.P_NOWAIT , <program-file> )09:30
skotti_I want the program to start (while i do a time.wait(X)) and then the pythin script executes a number of LDTP commands09:30
skotti_But the process is not detached, popen blocks further execution09:32
skotti_This is probably because a pipe is opened, but i don't need it.09:32
playya_skotti_, if you don't need the pipes you might use os.system09:54
skotti_playya_: I tried that but the python script just stops09:56
skotti_The program (be it gedit for convenience) opens and python waits for the process to end09:57
playya_could you paste some code?10:00
skotti_yep10:01
skotti_program = os.path.join( ' ','usr','bin','gedit' )10:01
skotti_print "hello"10:01
skotti_os.system( program )10:02
skotti_print "hello again"10:02
skotti_[...]10:02
skotti_the second print is executed only if i manually close gedit10:02
skotti_Alternativly i tried os.spawnl( os.P_NOWAIT, program ) which - to my surprise - does not start gedit but continues ok...10:05
playya_tried to remoce the os.P_NOWAIT ?10:05
playya_works for me10:05
skotti_Trying now...10:06
skotti_os.spawnl() takes at least 2 arguments10:07
playya_os.popen( program )10:08
playya_<open file ' /usr/bin/gedit', mode 'r' at 0x7fa18caf6d50>10:08
skotti_I get "No spawning" as message.10:09
skotti_And then it waits for me to close gedit10:09
hagisbasherukogra, you might want to put a not on the webpage about after you install the linux-backports-modules from /deb/ folder , after you do an update before you reboot , sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic ,mabey you could word it better than me and i hope you understand what i mean10:11
hagisbasherukgood morning everyone10:11
hagisbasheruknot=note P10:11
hagisbasherukif you reboot without doing so you won't have the linux-backport-modules-2.6.27-9-generic so you lose wifi10:13
hagisbasherukas kernel gets updated10:13
skotti_playya_: Tricky thing, i have to give up on that for now. Anyway, thanks for your help, i appreciate that very much.10:14
Alastairthe current kernel version is 2.6.27-1010:58
Alastairbut the backports version in the repos is older10:59
Alastairso if you update you loose wifi anyway...10:59
hagisbasheruki have2.6.27-9-generic 11:03
hagisbasheruksays my system is upto date11:05
hagisbasherukohh distro upgrade went wrong , no intel driver for xorg11:05
hagisbasheruksso had to redo everything11:06
hagisbasherukoh and good morning Alastair playya_ skotti_ cprov and everyone else :)11:08
cprovhagisbasheruk: morning.11:08
skotti_Hi hagisbasheruk11:08
skotti_playya_: Trivial solution to my popen-problem: assign the object.11:09
skotti_f_obj = os.popen( somefile )11:09
playya_good idea11:10
playya_i only tested it in the python shell11:10
playya_hi hagisbasheruk 11:10
hagisbasheruk:)11:10
hagisbasheruk[Ubuntu UK Podcast] S01E19 - Love Letters - http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2008/12/03/s01e19-love-letters/11:15
hagisbasherukpodcast time :)11:15
Alastairmornin...11:17
Alastairhagisbasheruk, maybe it depends on which update server are you using...11:17
Alastairi'm using the main server11:17
Alastairand the latest kernel is 27-10 :D11:17
hagisbasherukahh using uk servers here11:17
Alastairlol11:19
Alastairat last i feel good about my quad :D11:19
hagisbasherukyou got a quad bike :P11:19
Alastairppl say gta4 is making very good use11:19
Alastair(of the extra cores) xD11:19
hagisbasherukgood , what video card/s u using11:20
Alastaircurrently 7950GT :(11:20
hagisbasheruk8600GT here11:20
Alastairi had 3870 x211:21
Alastairnow i'm considering 9800gtx+ or 4850...11:22
Alastairi should've tested the ati with ubuntu b4 i sold it :/11:22
hagisbasheruki am never upgrading the pc now i have given it to the misses11:22
Alastair:s11:26
Alastairdunno... i'll never give up the big screen... ^^11:26
Alastairnor the processing power..11:26
Alastairthe notebook is for outside use only :D11:26
hagisbasherukbrb11:29
Alastairaw11:29
Alastairlove my ISP xD11:29
Alastairthe gigabit connection rulez11:29
hagisbasheruk??11:32
Alastair51MB/s download11:33
Alastairfrom the local NAS11:33
Alastairaverage speed 26,95 :p11:34
hagisbasherukwhall !!11:35
Alastair7.04GB in under 3 minutes11:36
hagisbasheruki have 16 meg broad band , average 1.7Kb/s11:37
hagisbasherukMb/s11:37
hagisbasherukeven11:37
Alastairyea, but wait for the shocker - i'm paying for thes goodness only 12.5 euro xD11:37
hagisbasherukcan i get your isp here in uk :)11:38
Alastairit is a branch of some international organisation afaik....maybe they have something in uk, dunno11:39
hagisbasherukhow long have you had that type of speed ?11:39
Alastairbut the reason i'm getting such speeds is that both me and their NAS are connected to the same backbone fiber channel...11:40
Alastairmost of the users ain't that lucky11:40
hagisbasheruk:)11:40
Alastairlol11:41
Alastairthe second image averaged at 49MB/s xD11:41
hagisbasherukyou should setup an ubuntu mirror :P11:42
Alastairwe already have one i think... and 2 more in bulgaria11:43
Alastairidk if they completed it tho...11:44
Alastairnah... they made debian and slack mirrors, the ubuntu one was cancelled11:53
hagisbasherukback la8 got stuff to do now11:54
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NCommandermorning ogra 13:15
ograhey NCommander 13:16
NCommanderogra, how goes it?13:16
ogracursing rpm 13:17
ograthe autofoo stuff is a total mess13:17
NCommander:-)13:18
NCommanderMID on x86/amd64 should be usable AFAIK13:18
NCommanderTHere are a still a few hildon specific things broken (on my todo list of things to look over)13:18
NCommanderbut it should just work I hope13:19
ogracool13:19
NCommanderWe need to modify casper on mid however to work without an Ubuntu user :-)13:19
ograuh, why ? 13:19
ograthe settings package should create one 13:19
NCommanderIf you use ubiquity to install, you don't get one13:21
NCommanderI filed a bug about it13:21
crevettehello17:38
crevettesuperm1: hey, are you interested in sponsoring an upload of obex-data-server 0.4.2 ?17:38
superm1crevette, for jaunty?17:41
crevettesuperm1: yep, sorry17:41
superm1crevette, have you tested to make sure that it still works with the rest of the bluez stuff (at least the functional stuff) already?17:41
crevettesuperm1: I use it for weeks, it solvd the various we add with gnome-user-share17:41
crevettehad17:41
superm1crevette, ah very good.  sure i can sponsor it then. do you have it published somewhere for me to grab?17:43
crevettesuperm1: I'm trying to find a place and a way to host it because gvfs in jaunty seems broken for me17:48
superm1crevette, PPA perhaps?17:48
crevetteI can host any file ?17:48
superm1well it's a source package that gets sponsored, and even get a free test build so i dont have to run one here :)17:49
crevettesuperm1: https://edge.launchpad.net/~bmillemathias/+archive17:49
crevettelet me rebuild it for jaunty17:51
crevetteas launchpad permit that17:51
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superm1crevette, i tried to build in my jaunty sbuild (amd64): http://pastebin.com/f2ab7c8a620:10
superm1so you'll need to sort out what's going on there20:11
crevetteokay20:11
crevetteit seems the package name has changed20:11
crevettethanks for hte feedback, I was busy until now20:12
crevetteI was to push my package to ppa to test the build (I didn't build it for jaunty yet)20:12
crevettesuperm1: I saw that debian/ changes was now handled in bzr, should I do something to commit files ?20:31
crevetteor provide you a patch ?20:32
superm1oh yeah i forgot that we moved it to bzr.  yeah you should put together a bzr branch to merge or commit to yourself.20:35
superm1i believe it's owned by ubuntu-dev20:35
crevetteyep it is20:41
crevettesuperm1: I don't understand why the dput server (don't know how it is called) denies me to upload my package stating intrepid has already such package but my package is for jaunty ...20:46
crevettethis why I still not have uploaded it20:47
crevette+is20:47
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* Hobbsee hopes crevette is *not* a MOTU23:44
Hobbseeoh good.  He isn't :)23:45
* Hobbsee sends him an email to answer the question23:45
persiaHobbsee, ?23:46
Hobbseepersia: the last question above23:47
* persia is still over a week behind on backscroll, and peeks ahead23:47
Hobbseepersia: don't worry :)23:48
persiaHobbsee, probably bluetooth-team PPA23:49
Hobbseepersia: must be.  There's nowhere else he could dput to, that it would work, i think23:49
persiaWell, own-PPA, but yeah.23:50

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